[0:00] this up during building. If

[0:01] they do. And towards the coast

[0:03] like billing. That's tough

[0:04] work. They have to stop and

[0:07] redo it again.

[0:08] >> once wildlife is protected

[0:09] the team starts looking at the

[0:10] trees on the property so will

[0:10] we.

[0:12] >> go to our survey we like to

[0:16] verify. Tree sizes or dbh dbh

[0:17] is a diameter at breast height

[0:18] about 54 inches. High on

[0:24] the tree. 0. It's a 15 and a

[0:27] half inches they were. And so

[0:28] that's consider protect the

[0:31] tree. In the city and

[0:32] therefore we have class where

[0:35] trees is protected or heritage

[0:39] protected is from 12 inches to

[0:42] 23 in 7 8th diameter right and

[0:42] what it's 24 inches that's

[0:43] considered a heritage and

[0:47] anything below. 12 inches.

[0:47] >> it's not considered

[0:48] protected. I want to know how

[0:49] joe got into this kind of

[0:51] work. Why he cares so much

[0:52] about it. Originally from

[0:55] pittsburgh down zoo keeper

[0:57] school up and and the

[0:58] gainesville santa fe can

[1:01] cause, but then I learned more

[1:02] florida so being think

[1:07] beaches. Learned flores more

[1:08] than just that and so what the

[1:09] university of florida to get

[1:11] my bachelors in well as

[1:11] coaching conservation

[1:12] and then pursue masters and

[1:14] ecological restoration so just

[1:17] love florida, you know the

[1:17] habitats in florida and I also

[1:20] like it because we can also

[1:21] conserve unsafe, we'll

[1:22] continue to build 2. We can 2

[1:26] things at once without having

[1:27] a discrepancy the other so we

[1:30] can continue to build as you

[1:32] see with feel safe tortoises.

[1:33] yes we can make sure

[1:34] everything is safe and will

[1:35] preserve cover after that

[1:35] first visit and what the law

[1:39] is selectively cleared. The

[1:40] office stepped in to focus on

[1:41] the trees that can be safe. So

[1:41] you

[1:42] see here. These trees with the

[1:44] ribbon on him. Those are

[1:48] proposed to be saved and.

[1:49] >> they are you see this

[1:52] beautiful understory of saw

[1:53] palmetto. It's going to be a

[1:54] nice little area. Yeah, yeah

[1:59] exposure to natural setting

[1:59] for the for the homeowner and

[2:01] that's what we're going for

[2:03] one of the things we value

[2:06] and north port is love of

[2:06] trees and so this one is

[2:07] outside of the building

[2:10] footprint up here in the

[2:12] corner and was able to be

[2:13] conserved and you can see.

[2:17] It's been out in the woods.

[2:20] For all this time throughout

[2:21] its life. And it's it's got

[2:23] vines hanging off of it and

[2:24] with some minimal a proper

[2:25] pruning this is going to be

[2:31] just a beautiful tree. We come

[2:32] here and do an inspection to

[2:35] make to make sure the trees

[2:36] are properly excluded from the

[2:37] construction area because no

[2:39] phil on top of the critical

[2:39] root zone.

[2:41] >> which can impact a tree.

[2:42] You know in a negative way

[2:47] obviously. We see of obviously

[2:48] the tree is above ground but

[2:49] there's a whole network of

[2:51] routes below ground that we

[2:52] want to also make protected

[2:57] jeremy this is more than just

[2:57] checking boxes.

[2:58] >> it's about the future of

[2:59] the city and its environment

[2:59] I've been an environmental

[3:01] work, I went to school for

[3:02] environmental work, so it's

[3:03] something that I took on it

[3:05] and very you know an early

[3:05] age. And here in

[3:09] port. I was. You know

[3:10] lucky enough to be an

[3:13] arborist. And we really want

[3:18] to see the value and I see the

[3:18] value.

[3:21] >> and in the city in the and

[3:23] the environment making sure

[3:25] there's that balance between

[3:29] development and environmental

[3:29] protection.

[3:31] >> and trees is a big part of

[3:35] that right there's a

[3:39] >> today is thursday SEPTEMBER

[3:40] 2020 06:00pm where is

[3:41] chamber's commission workshop

[3:44] meeting to order.

[3:45] Commissioners present are

[3:49] MISTER Mayor mayor and there's

[3:53] a poor PRESIDENT For this

[3:53] meeting city manager

[3:58] fletcher's city attorney

[3:59] review. Possible, especially

[3:59] when police chief there isn't

[4:05] a fire chief titus.

[4:06] Participants a staff meeting

[4:11] or the cones are of meeting

[4:12] was that there 3 states that

[4:17] can't be show first of all

[4:18] types a material plant or

[4:23] seems more disorderly conduct.

[4:25] Additionally candies must

[4:26] refrain from looking

[4:31] disorderly conduct, including

[4:32] similar demonstrations. It's

[4:32] just there's the peas and to

[4:33] order to thank you.

[4:38] Is a sameness she would lead

[4:52] in the

[4:57] to all.

[5:10] >> well we get into the actual

[5:11] present patients. Can make a

[5:12] suggestion. I'm sure we have a

[5:15] lot of people here are nation

[5:22] that will tonight. We have

[5:30] external presenters hold them

[5:35] like to put

[5:36] >> anyone who wants to speak

[5:38] before the here in the world.

[5:43] We would hear those.

[5:49] >> but any of our voice public

[5:53] comments or those just kind of

[5:55] move things along a little bit

[5:58] and into the to prevent

[6:00] patients. As soon possible so.

[6:04] Yes, yeah. Kind of put it the

[6:05] same

[6:14] for in person public motion

[6:15] that we suspend all the same

[6:15] number 2021 dash

[6:19] 0, 5,

[6:23] >> and here are all general

[6:23] comments.

[6:24] >> and voice mails at the end

[6:29] of the meeting.

[6:38] >> I have a motion on door

[6:41] made by and second by

[6:43] commissioner duval. There's

[6:53] anything to that. Fallen to 0.

[6:55] Ok moving in-person public

[7:02] comment.

[7:07] >> for the scene.

[7:29] >> good evening. My name is

[7:30] jenna and it costs live in

[7:30] port and yes I did something a

[7:33] little things to get in. I

[7:36] read resubmitted application

[7:37] full disclosure I'm active

[7:40] certified public last time I

[7:42] stood here showed you

[7:43] application that contradicted

[7:46] itself. Well apparently we're

[7:48] doing this again you know. The

[7:53] masks still medicine. MAY not

[7:54] have a staples, but we can

[7:58] match numbers across documents

[8:00] city staff specifically

[8:01] require applicant to reconcile

[8:04] 2 different projects sizes.

[8:06] Applicant responded that the

[8:07] plans have been corrected to

[8:08] 896,000 square feet. Except

[8:14] they weren't. The recent

[8:16] utility plans repeatedly

[8:19] identified buildings as 1137

[8:22] 1000. Rick 921 square feet

[8:24] each I don't you do the mental

[8:25] math, but that's essentially

[8:29] the whole project square

[8:30] footage, not the suppose it

[8:35] corrected 896,000. And my

[8:38] personal favorite, 100 utility

[8:42] she identifies building number

[8:45] 4 1 million 137 thousand 920

[8:45] square feet. I hope that's a

[8:48] typo. But was it the city's

[8:52] job to catch it. This is the

[8:55] recent mission. And there's

[8:56] more staff told the applicant

[9:00] its title information was

[9:01] outdated that response is the

[9:03] revised title is in progress

[9:05] asking to move beyond

[9:09] sufficiency meanwhile, 2021.

[9:11] Land titles serving references

[9:11] the public records of

[9:15] miami-dade county. Ice.

[9:16] >> this properties in sarasota

[9:18] county.

[9:20] >> what the florida. Then

[9:24] there's the water. The entire

[9:28] calculations starts with one

[9:29] basic assumption. This data

[9:33] center equals exactly 100 er

[9:35] seas. But I could not find the

[9:36] product project specific

[9:40] support calculation for that

[9:41] starting number on which every

[9:45] subsequent calculation is

[9:47] based. I cannot find the

[9:48] cooling technology or the

[9:50] industrial process

[9:51] assumptions.

[9:54] >> the city specifically

[9:55] requested in lot being that's

[9:57] called unsupported assertion.

[9:59] In 2026. That's trust me

[10:06] brown. These plans claim

[10:12] 15,500 potable gallons per day

[10:13] yet they also include a half

[10:14] million gallons per day

[10:17] wastewater treatment plant.

[10:21] We've all experienced a a slop

[10:23] but these documents were per

[10:24] pair riverview and submit

[10:29] humans. Twice. So the original

[10:31] application contradicts

[10:34] itself. So does the re

[10:36] submission. Port residents are

[10:39] expected to get the details

[10:40] right for fence should surely

[10:42] a project of this to the

[10:42] scene.

[10:57] >> thank you

[10:59] >> hello good evening. My name

[11:00] actually survive and I'm here

[11:01] today to express my opposition

[11:02] to centers in north port

[11:04] florida. The negative health

[11:08] effects created by them. The

[11:09] american lung association

[11:10] reported increase air

[11:10] pollution due to electricity

[11:14] demand for by U.S. Centers

[11:15] where they not at all

[11:17] particulate matter and other

[11:17] harmful chemicals linked to

[11:18] asthma heart disease and

[11:23] premature death. Research by

[11:25] virginia commonwealth

[11:25] university estimates provision

[11:27] contributing to 1300 premature

[11:31] deaths, annually by 2030 would

[11:31] you really be able to live

[11:32] yourself knowing that you

[11:36] contributed to this tragedy.

[11:37] These data centers acquire

[11:38] several pieces of technology

[11:39] that are known to be sources

[11:42] of people ask her forever

[11:43] chemicals. Think the cancer

[11:44] reproductive immune

[11:45] dysfunction and many other

[11:49] adverse health effects. On top

[11:50] of all this centers and then

[11:52] for sound and ultrasonic noise

[11:53] frequencies outside of our

[11:58] what impact sleep. Stress

[12:00] mental health, covid

[12:01] incompetent performance. They

[12:04] also produce low frequency,

[12:06] humans have prolonged exposure

[12:08] can not only productivity, but

[12:10] also impair the immune system

[12:11] stress concentrations and even

[12:14] respiratory and heart disease

[12:16] with all this do really think

[12:16] worth putting us your

[12:17] constituents through this

[12:20] struggle. We got here for some

[12:23] monday to express that no. We

[12:24] don't want to center willing

[12:26] to stand up for that. And now

[12:27] we're here today to do the

[12:30] same. Do you think on this and

[12:31] consider not just smart but

[12:40] all of our viewers. Thank you.

[12:44] When is on

[12:45] the

[12:46] >> I believe live in the U.S.

[12:52] In port. But little those it

[12:52] was a quite beautiful found

[12:56] this a lot of being that

[13:00] >> every has been a that there

[13:01] is a debate that sent the

[13:04] supposed to be but what about

[13:07] in house it.

[13:07] >> I was just thinking that

[13:11] the and the muhls because I

[13:13] really don't want believe in

[13:18] why I came wgn also 72 of the

[13:21] nature and not coming same in

[13:24] that studio that's not for me

[13:27] that's not my choice, it's not

[13:31] everything is money. Have

[13:31] remember is that while it

[13:36] looks actually it. Surprise

[13:40] and I

[13:42] >> have a chance see any due

[13:42] diligence information from his

[13:46] practice.

[13:49] >> elise what does it it

[13:49] should be included in this

[13:56] that. Principal that fact

[14:00] spectrum expect environmental

[14:07] and assessment. Start with. It

[14:11] tickled utility pass to

[14:11] spending. What embraced what

[14:16] impact of that is is. And then

[14:16] imagine cities spots

[14:20] assessing. Wallets and we

[14:25] should assessment.

[14:26] Environmental impact on nearby

[14:28] and the life. It's just very

[14:33] important. That actually

[14:41] impact that's morris. I'm not

[14:41] talking because some of the

[14:45] tests will support all of this

[14:50] and I like fly. Delays but it

[14:52] can everything about this and

[14:54] before moving for about and

[15:02] decision.

[15:08] >> U.S..

[15:18] >> good evening commissioners

[15:24] go residents. African

[15:25] proposing a development that

[15:27] includes a 7 building data

[15:31] huts. It already have invested

[15:34] a substantial amount of money.

[15:38] Planning and development.

[15:38] We're now with the possible

[15:40] lawsuits. We get to this

[15:45] point. I'm not surprised the

[15:46] current uldc is open to many

[15:55] possible lawsuits. No wonder

[15:59] one of the concerns that major

[16:03] land use decisions appear have

[16:06] been driven by staff

[16:06] recommendations without

[16:08] earlier from the residence

[16:11] property realtors and bill liz

[16:12] worked directly affected by

[16:17] them. When comes real world

[16:22] example recently had called

[16:23] the realtor just sold a big

[16:23] part the area of new you will

[16:28] the sea breeze rezone to

[16:29] commercial I asked I asked

[16:29] what the virus does have that

[16:32] the bill there. Response was

[16:33] yeah want to build a single

[16:37] family home. The biden family

[16:38] didn't even realize the

[16:39] property have been rezoned

[16:41] commercial. They know who the

[16:47] rover of the city. This isn't

[16:51] an isolated problem. Here's an

[16:53] example of an which took it

[16:58] right minute, you know. They

[17:05] too. Public descriptions they

[17:07] say around by florida's wesley

[17:09] is this is commercial area.

[17:11] It's been 2 years since the

[17:14] uldc there's better effect.

[17:19] Why hasn't the city. Directly

[17:22] with no real associations to

[17:23] make sure everyone there in

[17:25] this area understands is only

[17:26] years. Should know what they

[17:27] can and cannot build before

[17:33] purchase of property. In a

[17:36] section of eastern portion of

[17:36] a seat there is the

[17:38] established area continue

[17:40] number existing single go.

[17:43] Yeah, the new uldc has that

[17:44] mandate that commercial

[17:51] development. That doesn't make

[17:52] sense reaction from those

[17:52] borders when someone

[17:53] eventually proposes that

[17:54] commercial development next

[18:01] door. Property id's old.

[18:02] Finally we need much industry

[18:02] involvement before making

[18:05] major way in use decisions are

[18:09] recommended I advisory

[18:13] committee made up local

[18:15] residents, property realtors

[18:16] and local home particularly

[18:17] the builders to construct

[18:20] single polls.

[18:23] >> one individual

[18:32] >> thank

[18:33] >> came to worse for the

[18:34] record. Use my glasses because

[18:35] you can't hand writing and I

[18:39] myself use ai.

[18:42] >> we have problem with this

[18:43] recent data center application

[18:47] in the nba involved. The

[18:47] majority of the residents have

[18:50] lost all trust in with our

[18:51] city government. Yes, the nba

[18:52] was legal and the developer

[18:55] every right to request one

[18:56] city policy was followed

[18:58] instead following proper

[18:59] procedure. But to many

[19:00] residents things are just not

[19:04] adding up. It based trust and

[19:05] the people who represent and

[19:08] the stand that taxpayers fund

[19:10] their staffers. It's just not

[19:10] that that is issue there are

[19:11] other issues that have been

[19:13] building up throughout the

[19:14] years. I can offer examples

[19:16] but that's not the point of my

[19:17] speech my point is to least

[19:21] start the conversation on how

[19:21] fix this.

[19:22] >> with the people, I'm happy

[19:25] with everything yes there

[19:26] always will let the

[19:26] commissioners to represent a

[19:30] 100% of the population, I've

[19:31] been asking since 2024, but we

[19:33] need to have a town hall style

[19:35] meeting where commissioners

[19:37] staff and residents can have

[19:39] meaningful dialogue and honest

[19:39] conversation and not the

[19:42] politically correct talking

[19:43] points. So is that senator is

[19:44] the straw that broke the

[19:48] camel's back we can start of

[19:49] that and honest timeline of

[19:50] the events from order for

[19:52] poland's first contacted the

[19:53] city looking for property to

[19:56] develop up till today be a

[19:59] perfect solution probably not

[20:02] but it's a start ready to the

[20:03] relationship with the city and

[20:04] a 100% of the residents has to

[20:05] improve otherwise the future

[20:08] of the city is at stake. This

[20:10] is not to blame one side or

[20:11] any other side will always

[20:11] have different points of view

[20:14] on how something should be

[20:15] done. But that's okay there's

[20:16] always there should always be

[20:20] 2 sides. It's a relationship

[20:22] with the different opinions

[20:24] that need to for me I've

[20:26] already given the compromise

[20:27] speech but it needs to be

[20:28] taken seriously this time and

[20:48] more important and that stand.

[20:48] >> my

[20:51] >> name is liz I've done that

[20:52] visiting here for 13 years, 10

[20:57] of them happy. Then I watched

[20:58] 3 years of the deterioration

[20:59] that we're watching I was a

[21:00] member of court friends of

[21:03] wildlife. I think at this

[21:04] point we need a north port

[21:04] friends of human life.

[21:11] I won't repeat the obvious

[21:11] negative issues they've been

[21:13] said over and over again, but

[21:14] I want to do is give you a

[21:15] background of how very close

[21:19] yorkshire property is from my

[21:23] residents guard inside a

[21:23] neighborhood. Cards 6 and a

[21:24] half miles as the crow flies,

[21:29] it's about 4. So this location

[21:34] or to preserve areas. To the

[21:36] north east of we have the

[21:38] orange wildlife management

[21:41] area, 5800 acres. It's a part

[21:44] of preserved purchased by the

[21:44] state to prevent residential

[21:51] development. 3 miles from this

[21:55] property. The yorkshire

[21:56] kapnick helps to form what is

[21:58] conservation cart. We have

[22:04] life those this area collects

[22:06] heavy rainfall that helps to

[22:07] supply what ports clean

[22:14] drinking the rest was

[22:15] currently it's a remote

[22:21] pristine area expect far over

[22:24] 200 interconnected wet. Dear

[22:26] bob like sand hill cranes

[22:27] crested care care black bears

[22:29] uk janell again for now to the

[22:35] east of the property. Is the.

[22:39] Are the great thing. It was

[22:43] purchased and manage and get

[22:48] this, it's managed peace river

[22:49] manasota regional water supply

[22:53] likely the speakers. Perch is

[22:57] to protect regional water

[22:57] resources. It has drinking

[22:58] water reservoir. Drinking

[23:03] water. It has you know and

[23:07] what happened. Cater is it a

[23:10] as active cattle ranch. And a

[23:17] texan. Cattle rancher. Had a

[23:17] data center open next to all

[23:24] we can coming out still I'm

[23:28] guessing the wildlife used to

[23:29] see has relocated and this

[23:30] city manager and the

[23:34] commissioners have done some

[23:34] and track to building but this

[23:35] is outrageous. This is the

[23:38] epitome of destruction. I like

[23:40] thank you for bringing to my

[23:43] attention that I have 2. I

[23:46] know what we trust you. And I

[23:47] have to remain on high alert

[23:53] from now

[24:04] >> followed

[24:10] >> everybody chamber. For all

[24:19] the public speakers. Still

[24:19] more

[24:20] >> I've been hearing that for

[24:25] quite some time now.

[24:26] >> we have real problem with

[24:33] wall. I coined the phrase last

[24:34] 8 and a half years ago it's

[24:34] called for water quality

[24:40] crisis. It's a lot more

[24:43] serious most of you think.

[24:44] Because you're so disconnected

[24:45] from reality.

[24:50] >> not serious way

[24:50] disconnected

[24:56] >> from reality.

[24:59] >> we have all these college

[25:00] education this is at the and

[25:03] all these corporations and

[25:05] experts and everything. Except

[25:13] life itself. Reiterate this to

[25:15] you right now because this

[25:16] does for all 67 counties every

[25:22] city. You're going to getting

[25:25] letters of intent to sue.

[25:31] Because. So charlotte county

[25:31] on the 3rd year in the new

[25:38] york shire neighborhood.

[25:38] >> knew the city parts in the

[25:40] city of I don't want

[25:48] >> staff anywhere. Nuclear

[25:58] power facility build. You say

[25:58] you will is water from toilet

[26:09] to tap. Still ledbetter

[26:15] government. We don't care

[26:16] about the corporations anymore

[26:18] we the governor wants to be

[26:20] for the quality of life for

[26:24] the citizens. Commissioner

[26:24] dimitri stay with very

[26:25] eloquently at the last

[26:34] meeting. Water. Southwest

[26:34] florida water management

[26:37] district. Doesn't know what

[26:50] doing. So the regional water

[26:52] supply. I told numbers have

[26:53] for a long time started with

[27:02] director patrick lehman. They

[27:03] operates daily in the

[27:18] reservoir. Thank you.

[27:22] >> hey good evening, everybody

[27:23] council my name is samuel are

[27:26] standing at this podium to

[27:28] deliver yet another reality

[27:30] into the representatives this

[27:31] time from florida power light

[27:34] in the water authorities and

[27:34] this commission we're here to

[27:35] talk about infrastructure

[27:39] demand. So let's look at the

[27:39] actual yeah, state's

[27:40] electrical grid is facing a

[27:45] t-minus shark show prices our

[27:51] barely scratches a b minus a

[27:53] structural deficit for a

[27:55] massive power hyper data

[27:58] center introduce absolute and

[28:01] said they're react lets talk

[28:07] about the we're standing set

[28:15] entirely on top stop. Of it.

[28:18] Utility infrastructure on a

[28:21] carts are accidental threat to

[28:24] the state and seismic shift in

[28:26] structure any severe hurricane

[28:27] event will cause an immediate

[28:31] catastrophic directly lake

[28:32] district in the drinking water

[28:36] for 10 million people. These

[28:37] data center conglomerate want

[28:38] us to believe that operate in

[28:44] the to go back to it. The

[28:45] meant energy are stations and

[28:48] the massive growing plants

[28:49] require millions of gallons

[28:52] every single day just to from

[28:54] acting doubt where do you

[28:57] think that coming from where

[29:00] sitting here right strict

[29:02] based water extreme shortages

[29:05] every day essential restricted

[29:06] other private wells because

[29:06] our water supplies desperately

[29:11] gasping for survival. We do to

[29:14] keep our court center's cool

[29:18] we barely have to sustain

[29:20] communities. You're trying

[29:24] sacrifice our resources and

[29:30] danger public safety rivian's

[29:33] just a security alert at the

[29:36] time open to must protect

[29:39] entire because is no location

[29:40] within the state to

[29:43] post-season test your utility

[29:46] assistance. Court. Takeover of

[29:46] our weather at this podium,

[29:49] the citizens of newark you

[29:52] know, sound note and have my

[30:05] time. Thank you

[30:20] >> you

[30:27] they are.

[30:28] >> commissioners city staff.

[30:33] So the sense. Once upon a time

[30:36] in the sun, the city.

[30:37] >> call for a growing

[30:42] community lives. But the

[30:43] leaders could never borrow a

[30:46] single coin for new projects.

[30:47] Unless most of the townspeople

[30:51] hold it while yes. Decades

[30:55] past that town grew bigger.

[30:56] That the roads bridges and

[31:00] canals aged and development of

[31:00] neighboring communities sped

[31:08] ahead. Because 92% port's

[31:09] treasure chest came only from

[31:11] the pockets of homeowners.

[31:11] Life after less and less

[31:15] affordable. The leaders kept

[31:18] asking for more coins. That

[31:19] frustrated townspeople kept

[31:24] shouting. Heck no. Or appear

[31:28] at the cave-in skate.

[31:28] Dissenters and this was called

[31:35] plan a. These giant keepers

[31:36] promise to shower that have

[31:37] with goal to fix broken roads

[31:39] and restore canals lowering

[31:43] the tax burden. All local

[31:44] families and restoring

[31:47] affordability. Yet many

[31:51] citizens still half now. So I

[31:53] asked the leaders and the

[31:55] citizens tonight. What is plan

[32:04] b. What is plan b. The

[32:11] homeowner plan b. The play is

[32:11] turned away. Residents will

[32:15] pay far coins. While receiving

[32:18] far fewer services. A true

[32:21] fiscal death spiral. Replacing

[32:23] the leaders. Well correct the

[32:26] problem. Only a shift and

[32:30] wished him well. Involving

[32:32] strong commercial partners.

[32:34] It's the fastest way to keep

[32:38] our town affordable. I urge

[32:41] leaders to welcome this data

[32:42] center. But do not hand over a

[32:46] blank sit chat. Right smart

[32:50] protect its rules into the

[32:53] tire to garner woods waters

[32:53] without scaring the data

[32:58] center away. We do not have to

[33:01] choose between protecting our

[33:02] city and security and

[33:04] affordable future. With the

[33:08] right balance. We can coexist

[33:11] and thrive together. Let's

[33:20] make plan a work. Thank you

[33:35] >> us minerals.

[33:40] >> good evening and thank you

[33:41] for the opportunity to speak

[33:44] to you tonight. I'm either for

[33:49] or against this development.

[33:50] But I do have some questions

[33:51] that I hope will be answered

[33:51] by some of our guest speakers

[33:56] tonight. And if I have these

[33:58] questions. My hope is that you

[33:58] also have these questions and

[34:01] have thought ahead and we'll

[34:04] find out the answers to these

[34:05] questions before you approve

[34:08] any development of this size.

[34:15] My first question relates to.

[34:15] Any large structure is going

[34:18] to require a lot of power to

[34:21] operate, especially in our

[34:22] climate because air

[34:23] conditioning eats a lot of

[34:24] power. So one question I would

[34:29] have is has anyone consider

[34:30] requiring solar panels and

[34:34] battery systems for

[34:37] development or any large

[34:38] commercial building over a

[34:38] certain size and what that

[34:40] size should be that's up to

[34:45] you all. But I think having

[34:50] put such a system on all. You

[34:50] know we don't want to turn

[34:54] into another texas where our

[34:54] power grid fails every time

[34:57] there's a storm and GOD knows

[35:00] in florida we get on so that's

[35:04] one question I have. The

[35:04] questions I have relate to

[35:08] water. Does this possible

[35:11] water. For coolant it's only

[35:13] going to be used for coolant

[35:15] what does it have to be

[35:15] treated water. That's one

[35:22] question. Another question is

[35:22] is the developer required to

[35:25] inform you and pass what

[35:26] chemicals would be added to

[35:29] the cooler water. And I'm sure

[35:30] there will be chemicals added

[35:31] to that water because I had

[35:32] chemicals to my own

[35:35] condensation. System in mild

[35:37] air conditioning system. So

[35:40] that's line doesn't grow and

[35:41] other contaminants that might

[35:46] clog the system. And the last

[35:47] question and this is one of

[35:50] those. You know I've worked in

[35:52] government for 40 years. I get

[35:55] it I really do. But you've got

[36:00] to think beyond tomorrow. What

[36:00] happens if and when that

[36:04] cooling system fails.

[36:08] >> any of the

[36:08] >> of that treated water that

[36:10] chemical filled water, ends up

[36:16] on the ground. As I have now

[36:18] heard so close to the supplies

[36:23] of our drinking water.

[36:24] >> 10 years down the road 20

[36:25] years down the road 50 years

[36:28] down the road when that data

[36:29] center is no longer a viable

[36:32] concern. Because technology is

[36:37] changing that quickly. What

[36:38] happens to the hundreds of

[36:42] millions of gallons. Of now

[36:43] contaminated water in the

[36:58] cooling system. Thank you man.

[36:59] >> I wasn't going to speak

[37:04] this evening, but you know

[37:05] what eu commissioners need to

[37:06] and rage of his title mayor

[37:07] recalling a citizen monday

[37:11] evening. It's for you too and

[37:12] it's all facebook how

[37:15] unprofessional. And then you

[37:18] try to deny it. I have no

[37:24] respect for you. And you know

[37:26] know that the sooner we don't

[37:28] need just put this on

[37:29] restriction for water and then

[37:30] you want to build a data

[37:32] center does make sense that

[37:33] anybody does he know it does

[37:38] it. I don't know I don't even

[37:39] know how guys take

[37:40] commissioner because it

[37:41] doesn't make sense not

[37:43] representing this. It is poor.

[37:48] I'm disappointed. If you

[37:49] that's a mask. We don't need

[37:58] just get rid of all it.

[38:04] >> us. Good evening, everyone

[38:09] like glad to see everybody

[38:10] here tonight, not quite as big

[38:11] problem was the other night so

[38:12] the crowd. So thank you all

[38:12] for show.

[38:15] So one thing that you want to

[38:19] say is that. Commissioners you

[38:20] guys are the reason we're here

[38:21] right now you're the reason

[38:22] that all these people are

[38:23] upset that staff. It's not

[38:27] anybody else's fault, but

[38:28] yours you guys want to change

[38:29] the uldc allowing all this

[38:30] stuff going on the way you

[38:34] guys a lot money not supposed

[38:35] know that the state's be able

[38:40] to do that. But it's it's

[38:41] still song. I think should be

[38:41] open to the public we'll see

[38:45] what's coming of the city

[38:45] before. Before it even

[38:46] approved plans we've been

[38:54] submitted to the city. Desk

[38:56] definitely against so seen

[38:59] firsthand the water

[39:00] consumption. If you do your

[39:01] own research talk to some of

[39:02] these other jurisdictions that

[39:03] have these data centers the

[39:08] close systems. There's way

[39:09] more water and more being used

[39:10] because of these data systems

[39:17] than what's being told are.

[39:19] Just for example, there's one

[39:21] works on the capitol and this

[39:22] I think 12 minutes or

[39:23] something somebody just to

[39:25] banks along or to go that's

[39:26] the law. Take 1.6 million

[39:29] gallons of water fell. I think

[39:33] that 1.6 million gallons of

[39:35] water bill. These are going

[39:40] use any more than one owner of

[39:41] that's ridiculous it wasn't a

[39:43] one 0.6 million gallons of

[39:43] water feel what you feel that

[39:47] that is 3 times before you a

[39:48] final field because you got

[39:50] flush all charities inside of

[39:50] it before you can use that

[39:59] water for a final. Finally is.

[40:01] A couple things also the water

[40:02] is not only being used by the

[40:03] and I think about the

[40:03] electricity and stuff that you

[40:06] have to produce for that water

[40:11] has to plant. So we're using a

[40:15] lot water back that all up on.

[40:16] So there is the study's you

[40:17] guys will the research and

[40:20] stuff and all it is not fair

[40:21] to the citizens to have this

[40:24] noise and stuff in the area.

[40:25] We want to say he just the

[40:31] units that think about there's

[40:31] 1200 o k 1200 compressors

[40:32] running these killers.

[40:38] Alright. On top of that

[40:39] present when the chargers 2400

[40:40] that are just to keep those

[40:45] compresses goal. So that noise

[40:46] and stuff in the neighborhood

[40:47] and yes you can experienced it

[40:54] myself so, and it was just say

[40:54] that again it's it's your ball

[40:58] and I. That's all I can and I

[41:01] just wish you guys to do a

[41:01] better job, I've only here for

[41:06] 3 years.

[41:06] >> a lot sure.

[41:31] >> but

[41:32] >> have been a resident of not

[41:34] work for 20 years bus. And I

[41:38] like they are patient of the

[41:39] care that you guys have a life

[41:40] and the residents of this

[41:44] city. And it's very upset.

[41:44] You're on the go between 2 and

[41:47] anything that happens here and

[41:48] everything that happens with

[41:49] all the buyouts and layoffs

[41:52] and all the court agree. We

[41:53] just want to live. It happened

[41:56] here in this country. In this

[41:56] city where we've been at it

[41:59] for many years. I don't

[42:00] understand this whole race to

[42:02] ai to begin with. Race against

[42:04] china for a lot. What's the

[42:08] race for. What do we

[42:09] accomplish in this race and

[42:14] what's the goal of this race.

[42:14] Number one number 2 why is it

[42:15] that money is one of the life

[42:18] and health. We live in a

[42:20] society now where we can't

[42:20] even food honestly, that's

[42:26] good for us. System makes more

[42:27] money. All the sick people

[42:29] than they do all the healthy

[42:29] people that's what are the

[42:32] worst medical situation world.

[42:34] I don't understand why people

[42:34] can understand you have

[42:37] families too. You want to

[42:38] bring you take the same bar.

[42:45] Goes northeast to southwest.

[42:50] So have and they eastern end

[42:51] of the city is going to

[42:51] directly the whole city events

[42:55] but if there's any problems.

[42:56] Understand a lot the cities

[42:57] that had problems with and

[42:59] they do contain water system

[43:00] that doesn't draw from the

[43:02] apple contain sista they still

[43:09] that were just want to use

[43:11] it's post for all time that is

[43:13] to affect drinking water

[43:15] potable water. That's just a

[43:16] bizarre wells are effect from

[43:17] the construction going on the

[43:18] north and east end as it is

[43:22] through the rest of the state.

[43:24] Electrical we know that this

[43:25] processing plant that they're

[43:26] talking about building is

[43:30] going easily double to supply

[43:31] electricity at your city is

[43:31] able to provide great now for

[43:32] the residents that live here

[43:34] in the city. Our city is one

[43:35] of the largest cities in the

[43:36] state if not the largest city

[43:39] of where my letter. It's not

[43:40] do that. Yeah I think you're

[43:40] 20 years and seeing the

[43:43] buildup of crazy. What about

[43:44] city and future use for all

[43:48] residents number one. And

[43:50] number 2 all these

[43:51] transformers that are around

[43:52] everywhere up in the air we've

[43:53] yet to start putting all of

[43:54] our wires underground to

[43:55] protect them from the left

[43:56] from power problems and storms

[43:59] and hurricanes. Overseas put

[44:00] them underground protected, so

[44:01] we don't have these matter

[44:04] major catastrophes during a

[44:07] store. So why are they could

[44:10] 180 and what's the plan for

[44:11] least aging transformers that

[44:14] around our city many things I

[44:14] feel for your 50 year life

[44:15] expectancy and they're all

[44:18] nearing or past that now they

[44:20] still taking that into

[44:21] consideration to be proactive

[44:22] so that we're not having

[44:23] people that are shut down for

[44:24] weeks at a time for

[44:26] electricity only because of

[44:28] aging equipment pay work that

[44:29] MAY is going to take care of a

[44:34] $1000 with hair. Want to say

[44:36] I'm completely against the

[44:37] data centers here or anywhere

[44:37] in the world because I don't

[44:40] think that they help anybody

[44:42] living better. And there

[44:45] they're not going either all

[44:53] are going to do is pay

[45:01] >> good afternoon, everybody

[45:04] mayonnaise there and I believe

[45:05] in can you step closer to the

[45:10] microphone or having a hard up

[45:16] okay. Start over it, and I

[45:19] believe the slow food in for

[45:21] the last 26 to life school.

[45:25] All it. I really don't have

[45:30] questions. Send the kids.

[45:36] Because I think the main sure

[45:36] 100 stand but the most concern

[45:38] is that we eat the of the

[45:44] city. So I guess what but your

[45:46] detention and sure know is

[45:47] that still weeks ago that

[45:51] name. Maybe that's the

[45:57] specific is out. I would plan

[46:00] data that only way the concern

[46:06] that residents of that cds 3

[46:08] cp about what about climate

[46:16] even the exception. Or the

[46:20] just have our need the power

[46:22] before they there and

[46:26] everything is on ahead. So. My

[46:29] question to you for I was

[46:33] talking about. Get one.

[46:38] Center. If it stops how say

[46:43] over to the of about and they

[46:45] the center. You all of these

[46:56] sessions. All of for the next

[46:59] time you need to vote vote. Do

[47:03] your homework because way they

[47:06] going for it and they chose

[47:07] they're going tell you you

[47:11] want to hear you know what

[47:14] that the ease and I know that

[47:16] from 5 because I come from

[47:21] south america and from through

[47:21] that scene and I also know how

[47:29] does that leave. We've seen 3

[47:30] of stuart and that kind yes

[47:33] exploded next to so I hope

[47:35] that you feel that that

[47:38] question. I want to play. They

[47:39] sent wheat when this one of

[47:43] the bill first thank you for

[48:00] >> 2 dozen patients. 26 city

[48:05] >> regarding certain

[48:07] information.

[48:08] >> me read the power and peace

[48:11] river manasota regional water

[48:15] supply authority. Border to

[48:24] allies. It can for you

[48:24] community feedback that we

[48:29] have see. A look at table is

[48:41] leaving the body you. Years

[48:52] you know be it people so our

[48:54] current to discuss to we want

[49:00] that feedback. I'm not a virus

[49:06] that not to do about it is to

[49:17] our to we will you with a

[49:22] facsimile come camp formal

[49:26] decision goes back to the day

[49:26] got go to guard or will he

[49:30] survive the covid these 5

[49:40] already we're on our to

[49:50] realize. We do we want to

[49:54] question question will we be

[50:02] certain of so we want to there

[50:11] are just detention this

[50:12] getting how believe are

[50:24] depending live we know the to

[50:29] longest of it all all it

[50:36] narrow to where it is now it

[50:45] not you need to know move

[50:50] trying to make that that off

[50:55] the that need to all our me

[51:00] and use part that because you

[51:09] what from the white players

[51:19] regulators call the brain more

[51:22] important. By all accident

[51:27] you'll see the next live a

[51:33] wide view of where they are

[51:33] but to wear are wrestling with

[51:40] the exact same train all the

[51:45] to gather the facts a lot it

[51:47] in kind that will be included

[51:56] commission's there. To go.

[51:57] This got that when do talk

[52:06] about to using here. What it

[52:10] but all years back food before

[52:17] we get and these are confident

[52:19] you can see virginia to texas.

[52:24] Got to cough this be have all

[52:27] season to is you know where it

[52:32] is on it is is the show's

[52:36] scale that it going. It this

[52:46] why come.

[52:50] >> what really a sigh of so

[52:57] that you've got disappointing

[53:02] for houses and based which is

[53:04] the prior to the high

[53:11] for astoria 2 want to play

[53:12] well for a lot

[53:18] we walk. Look at what oldest

[53:27] are in polls. Out of 30. Was

[53:28] CHAIRMAN City have his

[53:28] workshop that are we talked to

[53:36] is it. Want this year. We had

[53:43] 4 start people we did. 16

[53:44] meeting pleaded they still

[53:54] provide some information to

[53:57] with the 401 of them are

[54:05] practice is or used to and by

[54:16] that is the school. Where have

[54:29] to so are 32. Forces like all

[54:41] the plot. All the top 5 about

[54:45] the '02 holes, so is in

[54:52] period. The want we love show

[54:54] with little over to you.

[55:06] Board. Want detailed of

[55:11] providing key because that or

[55:24] practical resort research that

[55:44] spoke move pass those 5 to one

[55:46] that city residents citizens

[55:49] all talk about our hour

[55:57] ordeal. Distinguished station

[55:58] regulations regarding that as

[56:09] MAY or MAY not be aware that

[56:15] is became able play omar 2

[56:20] other florida moved required

[56:28] for 3rd all of the service

[56:29] they require. Or other

[56:44] raiders. A lot more a visit k.

[56:48] Is that word as whether not

[56:51] recalled used our local water

[56:57] resource leave way war

[57:02] acquired or is with best of 5

[57:12] requirements are use able to

[57:18] provide you do use it without

[57:31] here. They said. The rest

[57:39] bubbly kindly to you know

[57:39] attacks we're in the great

[57:41] public health safety impacts

[57:52] with many dubai of put also

[57:59] very all those all them impact

[58:00] local government doing

[58:03] overwork org or spoke to or

[58:13] property. But all of that to

[58:20] all over again we could as to

[58:25] those work or all going to be

[58:32] called in go period. It all

[58:37] more stunning when it a lot

[58:42] over twenty-twenty the it is

[58:46] to is going plan or you see

[58:59] jurors. To actions in the law

[58:59] occasion. Way for the

[59:17] hurricane makes a lot to the

[59:18] the mayor protect private

[59:24] property rights. We have along

[59:33] with ordinance so property.

[59:37] Thank you got one affecting

[59:41] real property. The is that as

[59:50] the 2 property owners existing

[59:54] were right to develop news

[59:56] pursue plane that's exactly it

[1:00:08] it will for. I back to this

[1:00:11] definition it however matter

[1:00:18] year. The bill made a o spoke

[1:00:25] of city that to the problem or

[1:00:41] lot in there to also road it.

[1:00:49] He's been there ball in the

[1:00:53] they're process he line. What

[1:01:02] a public servant to good.

[1:01:09] Florida the un environment

[1:01:14] that for 2 years was was these

[1:01:29] that problem. Due to those

[1:01:36] this part of u top or more,

[1:01:53] less of ways that good okay by

[1:02:00] michael is by 3 days. For 2

[1:02:06] days for those of

[1:02:07] >> viewers of process of fire

[1:02:11] we sort parks and you know

[1:02:18] these public to for the cover

[1:02:24] planning rules follow. It be

[1:02:27] doing it was the right space

[1:02:36] you know it there go it, you a

[1:02:49] co. 2 but that's okay too.

[1:02:49] >> always eat here the insurer

[1:02:54] to to make

[1:03:02] >> before we get process.

[1:03:03] >> you're that is ensure the

[1:03:04] availability and adequacy of

[1:03:08] public facilities for city

[1:03:12] that service for the impact of

[1:03:17] the on part of the public fire

[1:03:17] water.

[1:03:22] >> days senators who thought

[1:03:34] control. The existing wire

[1:03:36] fast problems have less of

[1:03:47] impact. Tax exhibit her. A but

[1:03:48] this project and that is very

[1:03:57] aware that we are not working

[1:04:11] not here to believe

[1:04:12] exact same

[1:04:14] way that this is not to speak

[1:04:26] to you I didn't to we do

[1:04:38] >> need we need to

[1:04:41] >> the year. The they actually

[1:04:49] said or so that you could have

[1:04:50] find PRESIDENT That they had

[1:04:58] received road. People dead. So

[1:05:03] e that all the service area.

[1:05:04] It really has provide lot of

[1:05:15] didn't go designed to protect

[1:05:25] to pay long hear. Phillips.

[1:05:26] Through all of them vote for

[1:05:27] to serve or customer of

[1:05:33] questions not other that you

[1:05:42] it is the are low quest you

[1:05:43] they have to needs are in the

[1:05:48] lore moved to blaze. But about

[1:06:03] this to be our best expect. At

[1:06:03] you. They are customers

[1:06:12] including the need to least

[1:06:24] that it in wires for about 6

[1:06:40] entire to the senator fire pay

[1:06:48] so do believe that is work it.

[1:06:56] The power power of will be

[1:07:06] first site what it served. 5

[1:07:07] to determine how best serve

[1:07:15] first for it there are 2 is

[1:07:32] the vision of 4 how up law

[1:07:39] bowl is pete called is a

[1:07:40] little bit ways has games

[1:07:42] request to demand it at the

[1:07:49] bottom of facility time it's

[1:07:54] very little. So we do some

[1:08:05] paperwork. So little bit you

[1:08:05] that a win or going go that

[1:08:14] you know get a lot as part

[1:08:24] power been so always need to

[1:08:36] be paid for by it tie

[1:08:37] development you know always

[1:08:45] said oversight of it. The psc

[1:08:51] '02 was the last year. It

[1:08:55] reported that is 2, 8, year

[1:09:08] old all I is is here fight

[1:09:11] with the rays in the al so

[1:09:21] there are ways. You know pass

[1:09:27] you know certain to off a

[1:09:39] state. And is or e start using

[1:09:41] already getting a war the

[1:09:56] system to for customers well.

[1:09:56] These more access services

[1:10:05] either chaos. Ensure

[1:10:07] protecting but it is there are

[1:10:15] a whole for. In are really to

[1:10:24] power dash the race 2 are far

[1:10:37] for be get that patients or do

[1:10:38] vote rector of the peace

[1:10:41] manasota regional water supply

[1:10:56] live authority. Thank you.

[1:11:03] Thank you MISTER Fletcher.

[1:11:04] >> mayor MISTER Appreciate you

[1:11:09] all about MAY be here today. I

[1:11:11] appeal guy shows

[1:11:18] important rich.

[1:11:22] >> I have just a few one of

[1:11:22] the spend a few minutes

[1:11:23] talking about the authority

[1:11:26] some of our background who 4

[1:11:30] years our history and really

[1:11:34] our role in your water supply.

[1:11:36] As you can see here we also

[1:11:41] want supplier we served 4

[1:11:42] county area bound county

[1:11:42] sarasota desoto and charlotte

[1:11:46] county. We're actually created

[1:11:50] in 1982. As a special district

[1:11:52] of the state independent

[1:11:53] special district under chapter

[1:11:57] 3.73 or statutes. And we

[1:11:57] operate our facility here on

[1:12:01] the other right. Just inside

[1:12:01] county where the star is its

[1:12:03] front of the peace river. Some

[1:12:06] folks have mentioned here

[1:12:10] tonight we acquired the

[1:12:11] facility from general

[1:12:13] development 1991 shortly

[1:12:14] before you all the choir water

[1:12:19] treatment plant of them had

[1:12:22] create to know from you know

[1:12:23] other facility that we operate

[1:12:27] was swallowed back in 1991.

[1:12:29] We've gone through 2 major

[1:12:30] expansions and one minor

[1:12:34] expansion that capacity is now

[1:12:36] 51 mgd also regional

[1:12:36] transmission system we have 88

[1:12:40] miles of large diameter pipes

[1:12:42] from to 48 diameter of car

[1:12:45] first throughout 4 county

[1:12:46] region. We have a loophole

[1:12:50] every points to those far to

[1:12:53] the city of north port that's

[1:12:54] serious leader of the price so

[1:12:56] we deliver you an average of

[1:12:56] about 2 gd actually that was

[1:12:59] the number for this year. You

[1:13:00] have capacity of 2.9 to be

[1:13:05] right now. Also through

[1:13:08] stations and multiple

[1:13:10] emergency connects both of our

[1:13:11] members and customers families

[1:13:13] not numbers, but city of punta

[1:13:17] gorda and know water district.

[1:13:20] So the information governing

[1:13:21] documents we have 3 major

[1:13:24] documents that the guys are

[1:13:25] principles the first one being

[1:13:28] are in a local agreement. But

[1:13:28] the pfizer service area which

[1:13:30] is the 4 county area are

[1:13:33] members. The board structure.

[1:13:37] Our organization and operating

[1:13:39] structure. The other agree

[1:13:40] that the guys are principles

[1:13:40] is the master water supply

[1:13:43] contract. That defines our

[1:13:45] obligation to provide water.

[1:13:48] Your obligation to pay for

[1:13:52] that it covers procedures on

[1:13:55] how supplies how you request

[1:13:56] you and things like day-to-day

[1:13:57] operations system pressures

[1:14:00] water quality. Average day

[1:14:01] they follow requirements that

[1:14:02] we have to meet to serving

[1:14:09] needs. This is just a quick

[1:14:10] side of short time of the

[1:14:10] history of the important cover

[1:14:14] a little bit of that already

[1:14:17] we were established in 1990 or

[1:14:19] 1982 the ritual that goes

[1:14:20] members kind of dropped out 2

[1:14:24] years later in before. I'm

[1:14:24] basically a plan agency for

[1:14:28] the first 9 years. What we

[1:14:31] acquired the peace river

[1:14:32] facility that same year north

[1:14:33] port became a customer of

[1:14:37] board. Her first major

[1:14:41] expansion started in 1905,000

[1:14:42] pr over the river option well

[1:14:47] have you need to the

[1:14:49] facilities that again with

[1:14:49] others expecting 10 years

[1:14:52] later the rfp or the regional

[1:14:53] detention program which other

[1:14:54] than other you that 48 unit

[1:15:00] capacity. Rebuild of the

[1:15:04] original 19 91 facility in

[1:15:05] 2015. And were able to add

[1:15:06] about 3 and do that us to the

[1:15:09] total today, 51 mgd capacity.

[1:15:12] We're currently been mentioned

[1:15:14] here little of construction

[1:15:14] project expanded the

[1:15:16] facilities were sort of as a

[1:15:21] bore on property as well as a

[1:15:21] 24 to expansion of our

[1:15:27] treatment facilities. Just a

[1:15:30] little more of a deep dive

[1:15:31] some of our of the statutes

[1:15:34] that govern our army focus as

[1:15:37] a wholesaler is developing

[1:15:38] story supply operating a

[1:15:41] regional water supply for

[1:15:44] wholesale purposes. We cannot

[1:15:45] engage local water

[1:15:46] distribution we're by statute

[1:15:49] from selling unlike fpl we can

[1:15:51] only sell to our members and

[1:15:53] customers we cannot sell to a

[1:15:54] developer or industrial user

[1:15:57] directly have to go through a

[1:15:58] customer such as yourself to

[1:16:00] supply that was. No that is

[1:16:02] still the will bring florida

[1:16:08] statutes.

[1:16:13] Drives all of our decisions 4

[1:16:14] members stayed for one member

[1:16:19] from all it bowls contract

[1:16:20] rates but parental rights to

[1:16:21] those 4 counties and

[1:16:22] the city to purchase water

[1:16:26] from floor. 4 dozen on voting

[1:16:30] customer, the 40, you

[1:16:31] contractual rights and you

[1:16:31] have your part to the mets

[1:16:34] were supply contract. The

[1:16:35] project itself as water

[1:16:38] allocations and this is where.

[1:16:39] Contractual obligations for us

[1:16:42] come into play. You are cross

[1:16:43] water from your 40 and we have

[1:16:46] an obligation to supply of

[1:16:48] water as I said right now

[1:16:48] allocation is 2.9 million

[1:16:53] gallons a day average. If you

[1:16:55] others factors things like

[1:16:56] that what any you all for us

[1:16:56] to take up to 2.9 million

[1:17:00] gallons of it. So how do you

[1:17:03] ask what was best described in

[1:17:06] a contract that we have a

[1:17:07] process. Each year all the

[1:17:08] customers provide us with your

[1:17:09] demand projections for 20

[1:17:09] years.

[1:17:12] And a 7 under with that some

[1:17:16] of your windows commitment.

[1:17:16] That you are willing to buy or

[1:17:21] we're going to build that one.

[1:17:22] Obviously you for 20 million

[1:17:23] gallons tomorrow as we can

[1:17:25] supply that we can't building

[1:17:27] permit that facility and that

[1:17:30] sort so the contract

[1:17:31] contemplates that a loss of 7

[1:17:32] years to respond to your if

[1:17:37] you ask water today. I have 7

[1:17:40] years to build sell permit

[1:17:40] constructed as do every thing

[1:17:42] and then start delivering that

[1:17:51] water. After the 7. It time

[1:17:53] move motion is so far we are

[1:17:56] in a drought right want to

[1:17:58] mention that that really is

[1:17:59] the main reason we drive our

[1:18:00] planning purposes, you know

[1:18:01] some what years some of your

[1:18:04] life your dream we drive. We

[1:18:07] have the water shortage of or

[1:18:10] since earlier this year I

[1:18:10] think MARCH or APRIL it

[1:18:16] doesn't extend one of 2026.

[1:18:20] You call or something like in

[1:18:21] response to were given an

[1:18:24] emergency too withdraw water,

[1:18:28] the peace river we should need

[1:18:30] it. So has similar words given

[1:18:34] to the city border. I'm not

[1:18:35] sure if they're actually take

[1:18:37] them are not under that

[1:18:39] provision continue use our

[1:18:40] storage and recovery wells as

[1:18:41] well as that we inject water

[1:18:46] in in the wet season. Need to

[1:18:48] take the water back out dry

[1:18:50] season, the music offense, our

[1:18:55] surface water facility. The

[1:19:17] here just give you an idea of

[1:19:17] the allocations of an inch and

[1:19:17] earlier all right, for board

[1:19:17] customers and members g you

[1:19:18] can see sarasota's the city is

[1:19:18] 2.9 with the construction of

[1:19:18] the products that are going on

[1:19:18] now we're 18 oh gee of

[1:19:18] allocation. To boeing

[1:19:18] contract. So services going up

[1:19:19] quite well charlotte's going

[1:19:24] to 3. Report that the slide so

[1:19:25] show here but north port's

[1:19:26] going up like 2 so your future

[1:19:28] allocation 4.9 in judy and

[1:19:30] then the sos going find one.

[1:19:32] they'll be one 0.7 those

[1:19:35] outages are spoken for based

[1:19:35] on the contractual obligation

[1:19:41] that we have with so. Was

[1:19:41] about to be put through that

[1:19:42] process and mentioned that

[1:19:45] seven-year process. And with

[1:19:46] that I'd happy to answer any

[1:19:57] questions. Okay

[1:20:00] >> her. You want of the

[1:20:07] summer.

[1:20:12] >> all right good evening.

[1:20:13] Mayor council. And the

[1:20:18] resident. Always love silo

[1:20:19] civic engagement secretion

[1:20:22] guys coming this month. So

[1:20:25] thank you for the opportunity

[1:20:25] is city can I have the honor

[1:20:29] of serving as executive

[1:20:30] director the which is a for

[1:20:33] additional infrastructure and

[1:20:33] security alliance. Are

[1:20:37] partisan trade association

[1:20:37] representing florida companies

[1:20:39] expert from technology energy

[1:20:41] infrastructure, healthcare and

[1:20:42] national security. Just want

[1:20:46] to we don't resent this bill

[1:20:47] are coming of plan I just kind

[1:20:50] of google the news article

[1:20:51] generally supportive of joint

[1:20:53] structure across florida. And

[1:20:53] I appreciate the opportunity

[1:20:58] to address rise tonight. Our

[1:21:00] perspective is that for us

[1:21:02] compete for infrastructure and

[1:21:03] investment and the the

[1:21:06] opportunity that comes with

[1:21:06] it.

[1:21:07] >> and the way that we believe

[1:21:08] best approach industry in

[1:21:09] florida is to do it

[1:21:11] responsibly based facts and

[1:21:15] that's why of exist. We are

[1:21:16] florida's evidence-based

[1:21:19] resource for elected officials

[1:21:20] in communities to help these

[1:21:22] state rounded verifiable data

[1:21:23] engineering research and

[1:21:26] actual lived experience. And

[1:21:27] we also believe that it really

[1:21:28] matters so we're going to

[1:21:29] advocate for this industry we

[1:21:29] should be able to answer

[1:21:32] questions with facts and we

[1:21:32] recognize that communities

[1:21:34] have reasonable questions.

[1:21:38] Related to noise water use the

[1:21:39] suspects are other impacts and

[1:21:39] I want to just acknowledge

[1:21:42] those at the outset. We also

[1:21:43] believe florida is uniquely

[1:21:45] positioned to take advantage

[1:21:45] of this opportunity address

[1:21:46] these matters to our existing

[1:21:48] regulatory and legal

[1:21:49] frameworks so let me start

[1:21:52] something very simple. All of

[1:21:53] us here right at some point

[1:21:58] I'm sure are majority of and

[1:21:59] by the way for a commission

[1:22:00] this is our leadership this is

[1:22:04] the focus for our border. So

[1:22:06] free to review you know who

[1:22:08] vote in autumn's right hasn't

[1:22:10] used google maps or check

[1:22:11] online banking or stream us

[1:22:12] something online movie or

[1:22:17] music or used. Any other tool

[1:22:17] to create flyer or to a text

[1:22:20] message or newsletter. Every

[1:22:22] one of those transactions.

[1:22:26] Live on the joint structure.

[1:22:26] And that brings me to the

[1:22:32] simplest idea of what idea

[1:22:34] that the cloud is somewhat for

[1:22:35] your family photos live

[1:22:36] somewhere our financial

[1:22:38] transactions. Our process

[1:22:39] somewhere. The applications

[1:22:42] are running our businesses

[1:22:42] federer that the applications

[1:22:43] that run our hospitals our

[1:22:46] schools, our governments or

[1:22:47] banks. Every major institution

[1:22:50] in society. It operates

[1:22:52] somewhere that somewhere is

[1:22:53] adopted inside is something

[1:22:54] you're going to hear more and

[1:22:57] more about. Compute computer

[1:23:00] is essentially computational

[1:23:01] horsepower it's our ability to

[1:23:04] store information process

[1:23:04] information in washington so

[1:23:06] months of data and run

[1:23:09] precinct sophisticated

[1:23:10] applications. And yes, our

[1:23:11] artificial intelligence. What

[1:23:14] we're talking about it's the

[1:23:14] physical infrastructure

[1:23:16] supporting the digital economy

[1:23:21] powering everyday life. So

[1:23:22] what exactly is it that a

[1:23:23] senator I want include this

[1:23:24] might give you a sense of

[1:23:28] scale. At the most basic level

[1:23:31] a data center's a physical

[1:23:32] space where computational

[1:23:34] equipment is house and service

[1:23:35] operating store information

[1:23:39] data comes in data goes right

[1:23:41] on the far you what would

[1:23:42] essentially be in it class

[1:23:43] that you find law firm point

[1:23:45] coming from or doctor's

[1:23:46] office. These are small

[1:23:47] facilities they operate mostly

[1:23:50] in the coming moving on from

[1:23:54] the area centers. They are

[1:23:55] primarily measured in the

[1:23:55] hundreds of kilowatt sometimes

[1:24:01] up to low megawatts centers

[1:24:02] are emphasized speed right so

[1:24:04] we're you're talking about

[1:24:05] telecommunications advanced

[1:24:06] manufacturing healthcare game

[1:24:09] or on vehicles. It centers are

[1:24:15] critical. Is comprised of. And

[1:24:15] everybody to operating

[1:24:18] primarily in one organization,

[1:24:19] a covid patients center think

[1:24:21] of it as like an apartment

[1:24:22] building. So the company

[1:24:23] doesn't want to build out

[1:24:24] their own data center it will

[1:24:24] rent out a portion of an

[1:24:28] existing data center. And then

[1:24:29] when people with the cloud

[1:24:29] because some were just ready

[1:24:32] all of these spaces. So that's

[1:24:33] how we get ultimately to the

[1:24:34] hyperscale data center these

[1:24:37] are large facilities. You're

[1:24:38] talking about on the scale of

[1:24:41] hundreds of megawatts all the

[1:24:43] way up to a high campuses

[1:24:44] which can be up to a good one

[1:24:45] so like him or think about

[1:24:46] omicron micro facility in your

[1:24:48] house, alright your law firm.

[1:24:50] A 1000 killed wants to make a

[1:24:54] lot a 1000 megawatt is a so

[1:24:55] just keep that in mind as we

[1:24:56] are exploring this

[1:25:01] conversation. So. All of these

[1:25:01] data centers with what

[1:25:05] centers. Can you know a

[1:25:05] variety of things it really

[1:25:08] ultimately comes down to scale

[1:25:09] each of different power

[1:25:10] requirements cooling systems

[1:25:14] wire and needs acreage

[1:25:14] investment levels

[1:25:15] construction, timelines and

[1:25:18] community impacts so

[1:25:19] commission when a proposal

[1:25:22] comes to the first question

[1:25:24] simply should not thing do we

[1:25:25] want but that we all live off

[1:25:26] of these things and responded

[1:25:29] its about scale. The better

[1:25:30] question is what type of

[1:25:30] facility is being proposed how

[1:25:32] large is it. How much power

[1:25:36] does it need initially knew

[1:25:39] that technology will be used.

[1:25:40] And does particular project

[1:25:44] work for our community and I

[1:25:44] want that to be the framework,

[1:25:45] you know as I present to you

[1:25:51] this evening. Zooming out on a

[1:25:52] lot of one for reading all of

[1:25:52] our stakeholders are all

[1:25:55] floridians florida companies.

[1:25:57] Florida has built the future

[1:26:00] before we go back to henry

[1:26:01] flagler building the for the

[1:26:03] the that connect to florida to

[1:26:04] the nation. We can go out to

[1:26:07] enterprising california too

[1:26:10] following central florida and

[1:26:11] last we don't love is just the

[1:26:12] world we can look to the

[1:26:15] federal government. Seeding

[1:26:16] space coast with which

[1:26:21] launched. And spacex and the

[1:26:22] entire space coast in legal

[1:26:25] system in that area. We can go

[1:26:26] to naval air station pensacola

[1:26:29] which established northwest,

[1:26:29] florida as the national center

[1:26:32] for aviation expertise laying

[1:26:33] the foundation. For today's

[1:26:34] robust defense corridor from

[1:26:35] can to call on with

[1:26:38] jacksonville. Florida is not

[1:26:41] home 3 combatant commands. I'm

[1:26:42] sure many of us know that

[1:26:44] center console common so call

[1:26:46] a quarter of the united states

[1:26:49] military's command are in

[1:26:50] florida. These commands rely

[1:26:53] on additional infrastructure.

[1:26:54] Let me repeat that these come

[1:26:56] JULY on digital

[1:26:57] infrastructure. This is as

[1:26:58] much local issue as it is a

[1:27:00] national security issue and I

[1:27:01] want to drive that point home

[1:27:06] as much of zooming out a

[1:27:08] little for we think about

[1:27:08] everything or I do that every

[1:27:09] generation built

[1:27:09] infrastructure that powers

[1:27:13] economy. The electric grid

[1:27:13] enable the transformational

[1:27:16] industrial economy of the 20th

[1:27:20] century are in era of record

[1:27:20] economic prosperity. Our

[1:27:21] interstate highway systems of

[1:27:25] the 1950's paved the way for

[1:27:27] our logistics a condom which

[1:27:28] allowed to order an on her

[1:27:29] using a data center and have

[1:27:33] that I you are the next day.

[1:27:34] Internet fire are on loan from

[1:27:36] digital age which we all rely

[1:27:36] on. This presentation relies

[1:27:40] upon it all life on it digital

[1:27:40] infrastructure is our

[1:27:45] generation's. From the best of

[1:27:45] our ability to lay the

[1:27:46] foundation for the next great

[1:27:50] economically forward. Yes

[1:27:51] artificial intelligence is a

[1:27:53] part its accelerated

[1:27:56] transition. And it's easy to

[1:27:57] hear touchy pt are think

[1:27:57] chatgpt editing and you know

[1:28:00] we're creating a flyer. That

[1:28:01] is just consumer-facing tip of

[1:28:05] something much larger.

[1:28:06] Advanced computing. It's

[1:28:09] helping researchers analyzed

[1:28:10] extraordinary amounts. But you

[1:28:12] going away from ation in

[1:28:12] cancer research. It

[1:28:15] accelerated drug discovery.

[1:28:17] It's helping scientists small

[1:28:18] proteins. It's helping improve

[1:28:23] weather forecasting right

[1:28:23] tremendous amounts of data

[1:28:24] which is relevant to us during

[1:28:29] hurricane season. It's being

[1:28:29] applied to cyber security is

[1:28:30] being applied to agriculture

[1:28:32] also rolled into florida. It's

[1:28:32] being applied aerospace also

[1:28:36] road to florida. It's applied

[1:28:38] medical imaging we want high

[1:28:40] quality mris my wife is a

[1:28:41] physician, she works in the

[1:28:44] hospital she leads hospital

[1:28:45] team. They rely on the highest

[1:28:48] quality technology. The most

[1:28:49] accurate scans guess where is

[1:28:50] stored that that is stored

[1:28:51] inside of it that that a

[1:28:52] second digital infrastructure

[1:28:57] is critical it. Always require

[1:28:57] computational power and

[1:28:58] computational power requires

[1:29:01] physical infrastructure. The

[1:29:01] cloud is physical

[1:29:07] infrastructure. It ultimately

[1:29:07] serves fibers electricity

[1:29:08] cooling technology

[1:29:10] cybersecurity in buildings.

[1:29:11] The world only the mandy moore

[1:29:15] compute. Infrastructure that

[1:29:17] serves that demand is going to

[1:29:18] represent yes, hundreds of

[1:29:18] billions of dollars of

[1:29:19] investment. That's not the

[1:29:24] point here. It will be built.

[1:29:25] It is the look at that not

[1:29:26] that just shared with us. The

[1:29:29] question is where and point is

[1:29:30] that florida should be

[1:29:35] competing for and florida has

[1:29:36] an advantage. 4 is not the

[1:29:38] first mover when it comes to

[1:29:39] data centers, not one not 2

[1:29:44] not correa. 13 other states

[1:29:45] numerous other states have

[1:29:47] moved on data centers before

[1:29:48] us have they maybe made a move

[1:29:53] that we would not absolutely.

[1:29:54] But florida's position to

[1:29:55] benefit from the lessons

[1:29:56] learned from those states. We

[1:29:59] can look at somebody write.

[1:30:00] Virginia with data sent out

[1:30:02] you can with the texas. Which

[1:30:04] has a robust ecosystem and I

[1:30:08] would I would agree. We would

[1:30:09] not maybe make all the moves

[1:30:10] that texas but we can learn

[1:30:13] from absolute. Tennessee has a

[1:30:15] massive metal facility. That's

[1:30:17] right. Jordan ohio arizona. I

[1:30:23] just learned today. My wife's

[1:30:23] state's right we with

[1:30:26] basically park on portland who

[1:30:27] here thinks of the pacific

[1:30:28] northwest visions, a

[1:30:31] technological ways plan. They

[1:30:32] have hyperscale facilities for

[1:30:35] 20 plus years. And there and

[1:30:36] they're very environment. We

[1:30:37] can their water is still

[1:30:42] coming. Google is operating a

[1:30:44] massive hyperscale facility in

[1:30:45] the dolls just outside of

[1:30:47] court and they have since

[1:30:49] 2006, the pacific northwest

[1:30:50] from portland approved hoover

[1:30:54] was washington has no less

[1:30:55] than 30 large-scale facilities

[1:30:55] that would qualify under sb

[1:30:58] 44. So these things are

[1:30:59] happening. There are score.

[1:31:03] Other states have spent time

[1:31:04] working through infrastructure

[1:31:07] utility land use workforce and

[1:31:08] economic development questions

[1:31:09] that are associate these

[1:31:10] projects that means florida

[1:31:12] does not need to invent this

[1:31:14] from scratch. We get to learn

[1:31:15] to look around the country

[1:31:17] identify the best practices.

[1:31:17] We get to look at how

[1:31:19] standards have evolved

[1:31:22] understand utility structures.

[1:31:23] We can look at different

[1:31:26] cooling technologies different

[1:31:26] fiscal impact. I thought

[1:31:27] programmed for effectiveness.

[1:31:31] And. And I think that's an

[1:31:31] important distinction

[1:31:35] sometimes data centers.

[1:31:37] Presented as though this is

[1:31:38] alien technology that we have

[1:31:41] know that we need to address

[1:31:41] we don't believe that this is

[1:31:42] not the only in technology at

[1:31:45] the end of the day. These are

[1:31:46] 4 walls with computer servers

[1:31:47] in a room in some air

[1:31:49] conditioning from the top not

[1:31:52] any major retailer

[1:31:55] supermarket. The scale of

[1:31:55] larger obviously there are

[1:31:56] questions that are real

[1:31:57] related to energy and water

[1:31:58] and with our existing

[1:31:59] framework. We can address

[1:32:04] those. For also any major

[1:32:05] investment do we or do we not

[1:32:08] permit power plants, permit

[1:32:11] factory. We permit residential

[1:32:11] communities. We permit

[1:32:14] hospitals with comedies

[1:32:14] distribution centers. Support

[1:32:15] agriculture, we support

[1:32:20] aerospace. We have decades

[1:32:21] building regulatory system

[1:32:25] evaluate large sophisticate of

[1:32:26] projects and it's really for

[1:32:28] fracture is just another major

[1:32:28] economic opportunity that can

[1:32:29] be evaluated through those

[1:32:32] same principles valuing the

[1:32:33] project applying the standards

[1:32:35] and for informed decision and

[1:32:36] because others moved first

[1:32:40] floor gets to do it better.

[1:32:41] And I bring to this point was

[1:32:43] covered a presentation touch

[1:32:46] upon here, florida existing

[1:32:47] framework. Poll and respect

[1:32:47] the questions that were asked

[1:32:50] the public come. These are

[1:32:53] real legitimate concerns

[1:32:54] regarding water, going to

[1:32:54] power in regarding land use

[1:32:55] and let me address all 3 right

[1:32:59] now. Florida chapter 3.73.

[1:33:02] Requires any major development

[1:33:07] to earn to be approved. Think

[1:33:08] these permit what does that

[1:33:08] mean he's going to what does

[1:33:10] that mean. Planning the

[1:33:12] properties to present a plan

[1:33:15] that shows its water

[1:33:15] consumption. The water

[1:33:16] management district and the

[1:33:17] department of environment

[1:33:21] protection approved that plan

[1:33:21] not only that approve or

[1:33:25] reject a plan by the way if it

[1:33:25] does not pass a threshold of

[1:33:28] being reasonable of not for me

[1:33:29] the residence and attic

[1:33:33] serving goals of the project.

[1:33:35] Water management district and

[1:33:36] the department of

[1:33:36] environmental protection also

[1:33:37] maintain ongoing enforcement

[1:33:40] proper. What that means is if

[1:33:40] a developer says he is going

[1:33:42] to be one thing and it doesn't

[1:33:43] end up doing that they can be

[1:33:47] punished along the way. Check

[1:33:47] of 3.73 not a new law goes

[1:33:51] back to the early 70's, we've

[1:33:54] used his framework for every

[1:33:54] major development we've uses

[1:33:55] framework for all the rockets,

[1:33:58] 70 shut off of the space

[1:33:59] coast. Every the part that we

[1:34:00] put out every neighborhood

[1:34:03] every golf everything that

[1:34:04] we've done. We've had fallen

[1:34:07] 173 since early 1970's. As the

[1:34:12] 4400 for this one. As the 44

[1:34:14] insurers for any project that

[1:34:18] is a large scale project above

[1:34:18] 50 megawatts that's what those

[1:34:19] local great haters will not

[1:34:21] bear the brunt. Any increase

[1:34:22] infrastructure build out.

[1:34:25] Any other costs related to

[1:34:30] power generation. So we have

[1:34:30] water that is addressed to a

[1:34:34] 50 plus year old framework. We

[1:34:35] have asked the 44 which is a

[1:34:36] good law that ensure rate

[1:34:39] payers are protected on power.

[1:34:40] And wendy's we have any

[1:34:41] existing framework that we

[1:34:44] utilized. For development

[1:34:46] across the state and in this

[1:34:47] community relating to noise

[1:34:51] relating to us that and

[1:34:52] encourage conversations I

[1:34:55] loved hearing the public safe.

[1:34:55] I just want talk this through

[1:34:56] more, I just want learn more I

[1:35:00] just want to hear more. Agree.

[1:35:00] The way that we do that and

[1:35:02] I'm not going get ahead of

[1:35:03] myself is every project needs

[1:35:07] to be evaluated. You know, and

[1:35:08] I will say that point for let

[1:35:09] me just make this final before

[1:35:12] moving from light in

[1:35:13] twenty-twenty 6 for the wind

[1:35:15] florida even further with sb

[1:35:20] 44. In chapter 3.73. Require a

[1:35:22] specific consumptive use

[1:35:23] permitting relating to

[1:35:24] large-scale data centers, yes,

[1:35:24] requiring them to use

[1:35:29] reclaimed water when possible.

[1:35:30] So yes, that is a possibility

[1:35:32] so somebody's #

[1:35:32] #

[1:35:32] what about

[1:35:34] the water I say florida

[1:35:38] already has a system for

[1:35:39] answering they submit the

[1:35:40] engineering identify the and

[1:35:41] they determine the proposed

[1:35:45] use. 50 year-old that every

[1:35:47] day phone. What I would say

[1:35:51] is. I would encourage us to

[1:35:52] stop asking how could florida

[1:35:55] man's tissue industry. And

[1:35:56] it's that recognize we already

[1:35:57] have the tools necessary to

[1:36:01] manage to responsibly. I only

[1:36:02] have we on the on economic

[1:36:05] impact, although it is sizable

[1:36:06] is important. These are these

[1:36:07] are generators for

[1:36:10] communities. It's not just the

[1:36:11] tax base right. I mean I can

[1:36:16] give you examples. In lyon

[1:36:16] county they reduce their

[1:36:17] property tax for a year or a

[1:36:20] year from 26 to 2026. That's a

[1:36:20] burden that was reduced on the

[1:36:22] residence while increasing

[1:36:28] services. In tennessee meta

[1:36:29] sorry and in louisiana and

[1:36:29] office on sales tax revenues

[1:36:30] from their facility they were

[1:36:31] able to get teachers to

[1:36:34] $60,000 on that straight. And

[1:36:35] you know working that I just

[1:36:36] mentioned to go over of the

[1:36:36] outside of the in the dots

[1:36:39] that support them. The

[1:36:39] revenues from that facility

[1:36:42] were reinvested into more

[1:36:43] efficient. Power

[1:36:45] infrastructure which actually

[1:36:45] and about dropping quite

[1:36:50] significantly. The estimated.

[1:36:50] Rate increase that they

[1:36:51] expected in florida there will

[1:36:54] not be rate increases the 44

[1:36:54] working because they have the

[1:36:57] money to reinvest they dropped

[1:36:58] the expected increase from 26%

[1:37:03] 8. 23% down to 8. So that to

[1:37:04] say I want to harp on this

[1:37:05] issue because and folks get

[1:37:05] lost and thinking it's just a

[1:37:08] money matter. This isn't the

[1:37:09] money part is important we

[1:37:10] have major issue. Coming up on

[1:37:15] or about NOVEMBER that are

[1:37:16] going to severely impact our

[1:37:18] live our police our fire our

[1:37:18] day-to-day life and understand

[1:37:22] from the public. What I mean

[1:37:23] that's a that's a massive vote

[1:37:23] that's coming up which is

[1:37:24] going to severely one way or

[1:37:27] another affect our laws. This

[1:37:28] actually is a massive

[1:37:31] opportunity to bring revenue

[1:37:32] our communities. In addition

[1:37:32] to there there is a meaningful

[1:37:36] work force impact. Labor is

[1:37:39] not that you can't think of

[1:37:39] center's as a corporate hq

[1:37:41] we're looking into town ribbon

[1:37:43] cutting 1000 jobs announced

[1:37:46] that's really not the

[1:37:49] headline. There is a impact in

[1:37:49] the buildup for 2 think about

[1:37:54] 2 years the data center. Don't

[1:37:56] be anywhere on the team, you

[1:37:56] know you know, but it seems

[1:37:57] like 100 to a 1000 you know

[1:37:58] these are good jobs. For the

[1:38:01] period of time right. So

[1:38:02] there's a contractor, what

[1:38:06] russians pipe fitters. You

[1:38:06] write again from ongoing basis

[1:38:07] after that.

[1:38:12] You're talking about hundreds

[1:38:15] of jobs, anywhere but a 200 to

[1:38:15] 500 depends on the scale

[1:38:19] six-figure paying jobs in your

[1:38:19] community. Okay is that they

[1:38:20] changing amount of job for

[1:38:21] some people it is for those

[1:38:25] people it is for those 500

[1:38:26] people in the community making

[1:38:28] all 6 figures guaranteed

[1:38:30] income that's meaningful

[1:38:31] employment opportunity and

[1:38:34] these companies also by the

[1:38:34] way investing workforce

[1:38:37] program which allows average

[1:38:40] people 2 on the road into the

[1:38:41] digital economy. So capital

[1:38:42] investment tax base

[1:38:44] construction. Employment,

[1:38:46] permanent employment and

[1:38:47] workforce development. This is

[1:38:48] what we're talking about we

[1:38:53] talk about capital investment.

[1:38:53] That leads me to a broader

[1:38:54] point that I would like to

[1:38:58] make. Florida has spent

[1:38:59] decades establishing itself as

[1:38:59] one of america's leading

[1:39:00] states when it comes to

[1:39:02] industry and innovation and

[1:39:04] not foster has served as

[1:39:05] extraordinarily well when an

[1:39:07] innovative company has

[1:39:08] approached us. Our instinct

[1:39:11] has not talking for this

[1:39:12] industry are things is how can

[1:39:14] we make it work. What

[1:39:17] standards apply. What is the

[1:39:17] right location, what

[1:39:20] investment will it bring. But

[1:39:20] it's creative. What

[1:39:24] infrastructure is required.

[1:39:24] And the the we should take the

[1:39:25] same approach when it comes to

[1:39:28] digital infrastructure. That's

[1:39:29] why we do not believe work for

[1:39:33] in our way forward. Because

[1:39:34] fundamentally know it's a

[1:39:36] conversation under. Once you

[1:39:37] say no there is nothing to

[1:39:41] about it. You never get to

[1:39:43] determine the you don't get to

[1:39:44] determine. Whether our project

[1:39:47] can satisfy water requirement.

[1:39:48] You don't get to determine

[1:39:50] whether utility conservative

[1:39:53] under a structure that keeps

[1:39:53] protect your customers, you

[1:39:54] benefit you never negotiate

[1:39:56] the workforce impact you never

[1:39:57] get to ask the company to

[1:39:58] modify their design. You never

[1:40:02] get to determine the proposal

[1:40:03] and whether it would be a

[1:40:03] tremendous economic

[1:40:04] development opportunity for

[1:40:08] residents. The conversation is

[1:40:08] simply over at that point and

[1:40:09] I don't believe that's

[1:40:10] consistent with the florida

[1:40:14] that we know. Found a to be to

[1:40:15] balance being open for

[1:40:16] business and being good for

[1:40:16] consumers in a way that works

[1:40:21] for all of us for be a factor

[1:40:23] or a biotech company or new

[1:40:24] aerospace company willing to

[1:40:26] invest a billion dollars in

[1:40:26] your community. Our response

[1:40:29] be no. Response would be

[1:40:33] what's of value with the

[1:40:34] project but establishing the

[1:40:34] rules was asked really good

[1:40:36] really smart questions but

[1:40:36] negotiating, let's make

[1:40:38] informed decisions. Compete

[1:40:41] for the investment and digital

[1:40:42] infrastructure deserves the

[1:40:47] same treatment. The framework

[1:40:49] that we is don't start with

[1:40:49] yes because flatly there are

[1:40:50] projects that should not be

[1:40:53] approved. Don't start with no

[1:40:56] because that the conversation

[1:40:57] and you're not allowed even

[1:40:57] negotiate whether it's good

[1:40:58] for your community at that

[1:41:02] point start with the facts if

[1:41:03] you start with the facts and

[1:41:04] have a conversation you can

[1:41:04] evaluate project and

[1:41:10] community. So. We believe so

[1:41:15] so I I see that all city. The

[1:41:16] capital in jobs and workforce

[1:41:18] will go somewhere right that's

[1:41:20] from the map that we saw. The

[1:41:24] tax base will go somewhere.

[1:41:26] Because system that springs

[1:41:26] around these digital these

[1:41:29] centers. Of will develop

[1:41:30] somewhere and we believe that

[1:41:34] summer shipp before. In

[1:41:35] closing I want to be very

[1:41:37] clear with where 56 stands. We

[1:41:39] believe florida should compete

[1:41:43] for the infrastructure power

[1:41:43] and artificial intelligence

[1:41:46] cloud computing cybersecurity

[1:41:47] research and next generation

[1:41:50] of the digital economy.

[1:41:51] Believe our communities have

[1:41:53] the opportunity to capture the

[1:41:53] capital investment. The tax

[1:41:55] base, the jobs. The

[1:41:57] construction activity, the

[1:41:58] workforce development and the

[1:41:58] economic development that

[1:42:02] comes with and we believe

[1:42:03] florida can do that while

[1:42:04] maintaining the high quality

[1:42:06] that our communities expect.

[1:42:10] That's what responsible growth

[1:42:11] florida does not have to

[1:42:12] choose between innovation good

[1:42:14] governance. We don't have to

[1:42:15] choose between economic

[1:42:17] development and protecting

[1:42:18] resources. We know how to do

[1:42:19] both because we have been

[1:42:22] doing both for decades in

[1:42:22] multiple industries. States I

[1:42:23] would first we can do it

[1:42:25] better. Take the best

[1:42:28] practices we apply florida's

[1:42:28] framework and we and we try to

[1:42:30] make it work right. So goes

[1:42:35] for real this time.

[1:42:37] Underscoring the idea every

[1:42:37] generation might build the

[1:42:38] that the next generation

[1:42:41] benefits from. We prefer to

[1:42:43] keep open for business to keep

[1:42:46] are at the forefront of

[1:42:47] innovation to make decisions

[1:42:47] based on facts rather than

[1:42:49] fear. To continue the

[1:42:52] conversation rather than do it

[1:42:53] and to decide what projects

[1:42:56] makes sense for your commute.

[1:42:57] That's where you're so that's

[1:42:59] you work you can visit our

[1:43:00] website we believe in building

[1:43:01] here in building right. I

[1:43:16] appreciate the time thank

[1:43:24] rattle we heard or you exact

[1:43:25] and you know occasion for

[1:43:33] often their JULY 22 states

[1:43:37] yeah okay to it's a staff is

[1:43:53] that we submit 30 26. Or be a

[1:44:05] the deadliest fire AUGUST flat

[1:44:13] the cause of trying to grab a

[1:44:14] little importantly development

[1:44:14] k

[1:44:26] prefer 26 actually live for a

[1:44:30] second secondly or or a career

[1:44:30] to be it but

[1:44:36] approved. Taylor only we're

[1:44:42] depressed about too o boys

[1:44:53] second while about. I it's

[1:44:59] just a website work. I feel

[1:45:00] that blatter worked on that

[1:45:07] area and he threw all these

[1:45:12] are responding the way request

[1:45:18] have discussion with board. It

[1:45:18] all forward subject matter

[1:45:27] experts as well. We want to

[1:45:32] tell you all was be able to

[1:45:39] play the bulletin.

[1:45:43] >> questions we get the peace

[1:45:50] river. You

[1:46:01] >> show.

[1:46:02] >> now where the energy but

[1:46:03] we're going to be going up to

[1:46:07] 4.9.

[1:46:08] >> that's for current

[1:46:09] services, we have currently

[1:46:11] right now. They're expecting

[1:46:17] news out there.

[1:46:21] >> yes not a new coming for

[1:46:22] this

[1:46:22] >> all say we your numbers you

[1:46:23] get us for your and so I don't

[1:46:27] know where that too to point

[1:46:33] out going I with that was so

[1:46:39] that's why she's there state

[1:46:43] 2.94 now it's up to her.

[1:46:47] >> to give a little

[1:46:48] commissioner the question

[1:46:49] assistance city manager.

[1:46:50] >> we do provide the numbers

[1:46:54] with projected growth 2 peace

[1:46:58] river manasota regional water

[1:46:59] supply right now that water is

[1:47:02] just kind of like a safety at

[1:47:04] for the very most part of the

[1:47:06] year we're able to all the

[1:47:09] water that we need we have 6.2

[1:47:12] million gallons per day that

[1:47:14] we supply I average we have

[1:47:15] about 3 to 4 million gallons

[1:47:18] per day that are used. But if

[1:47:19] there's ever a problem with

[1:47:20] plane was downed, there's a

[1:47:20] drought something that

[1:47:27] happens. There are backup.

[1:47:27] Question

[1:47:32] >> when we peace river. It's

[1:47:32] not have betrayed plan and

[1:47:36] then dispersed out community.

[1:47:37] >> it does come treated, but

[1:47:38] it goes to booster station so

[1:47:38] that we can tested to make

[1:47:42] sure that it's up to quality

[1:47:44] by the time it travels often

[1:47:46] reason I ask that is because

[1:47:47] okay with it was closed down

[1:47:52] by the

[1:47:57] >> variables to the our lands

[1:47:59] so it doesn't need we don't

[1:48:01] have that structure.

[1:48:02] >> it would not to go directly

[1:48:06] to the plant we do some of

[1:48:07] those in hillsborough booster

[1:48:08] station now gets treated

[1:48:12] tested goes back out.

[1:48:14] >> is day and all this water

[1:48:16] supply that we don't know what

[1:48:17] water supply to now that would

[1:48:18] be a very difficult question

[1:48:18] to answer without knowing what

[1:48:22] the numbers are.

[1:48:23] >> but there are possibilities

[1:48:25] there's there's some capacity

[1:48:26] there we also you know you

[1:48:26] could build a booster station

[1:48:28] is not the same level of

[1:48:33] infrastructure is a plant.

[1:48:34] >> but that would rely on the

[1:48:35] applicant to build that for

[1:48:39] their water yes sir, the

[1:48:40] developer would be responsible

[1:48:41] for any infrastructure related

[1:48:44] to their party.

[1:48:50] >> talked about play to we

[1:48:53] need reclaim pretty sparse or

[1:48:58] use all developments go like

[1:49:02] >> do we to be building water.

[1:49:03] >> we do not currently have

[1:49:05] reclaimed water in that area.

[1:49:07] But we would greatly look for

[1:49:09] a partner with a developer to

[1:49:09] help us build that

[1:49:10] infrastructure that water from

[1:49:13] our distinct plant out that

[1:49:16] way. As we grow and we have

[1:49:18] more users on our system that

[1:49:19] means we have more water that

[1:49:19] goes back to the wastewater

[1:49:20] treatment plant which then can

[1:49:23] go out towards. Users that

[1:49:23] would look for reclaimed

[1:49:27] water.

[1:49:28] >> and so that's part of the

[1:49:29] cost down the road, you know

[1:49:34] would be that it is required

[1:49:35] that they use reuse water

[1:49:36] because I heard statistics

[1:49:40] here are required to do that

[1:49:41] that maybe they put that to

[1:49:43] make that available to that.

[1:49:43] >> if you believe the

[1:49:48] required. To use reclaim water

[1:49:49] if it is available, I think it

[1:49:53] would be a conversation with

[1:49:55] this group to make that a

[1:49:57] requirement so that we would

[1:49:57] have the infrastructure but

[1:50:00] these will be great

[1:50:05] conversations as a project

[1:50:05] were do and how to be

[1:50:06] distributed in even have the

[1:50:11] possibility so.

[1:50:11] >> there's a lot work to do

[1:50:12] especially with what the

[1:50:12] demands could be in the

[1:50:17] future. Are they out of a

[1:50:21] small those we need staff. So

[1:50:29] open it up to commissioner

[1:50:33] >> to thank you very much for

[1:50:33] comment

[1:50:36] >> because any information

[1:50:37] hell's more water.

[1:50:53] First question all all. We've

[1:50:55] got a pretty wore I think

[1:50:56] probably more so than average

[1:51:03] itself my question is this you

[1:51:12] want to close they that close

[1:51:14] system goes up dramatically.

[1:51:19] Estimates I've read across a

[1:51:27] for handle that. How system.

[1:51:28] Electrical whatever might be

[1:51:35] bill in order to. I was scared

[1:51:36] basin possibly 2 to 3 billion

[1:51:45] gallons a year. Year. Gallons

[1:51:50] so question where playing. For

[1:51:59] what we used or elsewhere. A

[1:52:00] war. This is you know less

[1:52:08] uses for solar which we mike

[1:52:09] because the here. So my

[1:52:13] concern is as I don't know for

[1:52:16] but it sure seems to that

[1:52:19] whether it's you we're close

[1:52:22] system. There just isn't war.

[1:52:28] With the support.

[1:52:29] >> I understand I not respond

[1:52:30] directly could I don't I don't

[1:52:33] the project and I but I

[1:52:34] provide a framework for the

[1:52:35] marks the latest technologies

[1:52:41] are right. So. So right which

[1:52:42] is complicates running

[1:52:45] constantly into into the into

[1:52:45] the machine and close right

[1:52:50] which is like a great. How

[1:52:51] close releases the heat right

[1:52:53] because cold water goes over

[1:52:57] it's not warm water has to

[1:52:58] become whole water and so that

[1:53:01] warm to go somewhere just 2

[1:53:03] weeks ago that a backward of

[1:53:04] active cooling. Which is

[1:53:06] literally like cooling towers

[1:53:09] and water steam evaporating

[1:53:09] away which requires water

[1:53:10] consumption, additional water

[1:53:15] consumption. 4. There is

[1:53:17] basically using fans to cool

[1:53:17] the water right to call about

[1:53:20] water down to the temperature

[1:53:20] that is more power can

[1:53:23] something so it's a tradeoff

[1:53:23] that you would have to decide

[1:53:25] that he stopped off to the

[1:53:26] side race and so what I would

[1:53:30] say it's just really quickly.

[1:53:34] On average right so 30

[1:53:34] megawatt facility, let's just

[1:53:35] a very average size facility

[1:53:36] in terms of size of a

[1:53:38] meaningful facility pretty

[1:53:40] michael it's a closed loop

[1:53:41] system it's a 1.6 million

[1:53:48] gallon one it's a water slide

[1:53:49] called just like you find in a

[1:53:50] call and just like you find in

[1:53:54] your ice rinks I don't

[1:53:55] hospital university I think

[1:53:56] bench and senator I don't cold

[1:54:00] storage facility, water all

[1:54:01] for a 30 megawatt facility,

[1:54:06] 1.6 million last the last 45

[1:54:07] years and member of the public

[1:54:08] ask what happens out water.

[1:54:10] What happened you're either

[1:54:11] for it. What happens to the

[1:54:14] water in the pipes under rings

[1:54:17] I just I saw my mind because

[1:54:18] my son plays hockey, my wife

[1:54:23] just text questions fingers,

[1:54:23] I'm please lot questions

[1:54:28] people are going to have you.

[1:54:29] >> closed loop system is going

[1:54:30] to mitigate the amount word.

[1:54:34] Yes. So station that's been in

[1:54:39] power. Just a second closed

[1:54:41] system is going to require a

[1:54:44] lot more system.

[1:54:48] >> you darn near 2 billion

[1:54:53] gallons of water a year. So

[1:54:54] station so where does that so

[1:54:59] first off I I wish we had.

[1:55:00] >> representatives from fpl to

[1:55:00] address it specifically I

[1:55:02] don't know that that number I

[1:55:05] don't I don't know yeah I

[1:55:05] don't know that number what I

[1:55:07] would say is we should

[1:55:09] probably come to terms our

[1:55:10] require resources. Everything

[1:55:12] we do is meeting requires

[1:55:13] resources. The burger that I

[1:55:16] had for lunch, require a lot

[1:55:17] of resources raise that cow

[1:55:20] was spotted leaving the door.

[1:55:22] so there is water consumption

[1:55:23] involved and I would say later

[1:55:29] workshop the switching over

[1:55:35] >> made of fact we have.

[1:55:40] Wonderful.

[1:55:40] >> landings regulations place

[1:55:41] and the ability to smash.

[1:55:51] This a cause. Henri for you

[1:55:52] know addresses certain banks

[1:55:58] certainly reward bill. And

[1:55:58] they look

[1:56:01] and very clearly.

[1:56:09] >> streams from summer

[1:56:10] restrictive regulation we're

[1:56:11] preemption that state

[1:56:14] government imposed covers

[1:56:16] local governments in a

[1:56:20] position say or when he's

[1:56:23] ready way. So consequently I

[1:56:23] guess the local level what

[1:56:24] we're looking at will trust

[1:56:30] bp. We're a will trust the

[1:56:36] state legislature to legislate

[1:56:39] this a us work allow to and we

[1:56:46] can say she we control so I

[1:56:47] say florida place for this to

[1:56:51] happen not political climate

[1:56:55] regulate it's so many things

[1:56:55] most municipalities in the

[1:57:02] state of war. Have no clue

[1:57:02] about senator's there is

[1:57:04] nothing our regulate this kind

[1:57:08] project okay so how is where

[1:57:11] are we sure ourselves. Telling

[1:57:17] your result. This is going to

[1:57:18] built a state-of-the-art

[1:57:19] dresses or concerns of war,

[1:57:24] air quality and sound. There's

[1:57:26] a that we face I don't

[1:57:27] technology exists. Doubt in

[1:57:31] the perfect world, we'll

[1:57:33] compete and we could find

[1:57:34] where community issues my

[1:57:38] problem local government

[1:57:42] official old to do anything

[1:57:46] controls process since

[1:57:47] supposedly represent of these

[1:57:55] people reason

[1:57:56] >> for those questions for so

[1:57:59] exactly we should do trust.

[1:58:00] >> I would I would ask that

[1:58:06] you re rees sb 44 and that is

[1:58:07] I would consult your city

[1:58:08] attorney on whether sb 44

[1:58:09] grants local government's

[1:58:11] ability to control and use

[1:58:15] harris liability would exist.

[1:58:16] If you are doing moratorium

[1:58:16] that would affect a project

[1:58:19] that you've already approved

[1:58:22] that's why we're don't do the

[1:58:23] moratorium found with the

[1:58:24] project regain the power that

[1:58:24] you have to align with the

[1:58:34] project.

[1:58:39] >> us thank you.

[1:58:41] >> as the you want you the

[1:58:53] most. All sales went terribly.

[1:58:55] The point where polls the and

[1:59:04] this is over. Not taking sides

[1:59:07] forward you'll see 0

[1:59:08] regulations.

[1:59:14] Projects like 0 cases and 4

[1:59:16] walls

[1:59:17] carter is. But he says the

[1:59:24] problem is. We fail husband

[1:59:26] and this projects to propose

[1:59:28] more important people. On JULY

[1:59:39] 21st. Season official rules.

[1:59:41] 31st and obviously we did

[1:59:42] describe subject to report

[1:59:46] more. We're part is that the

[2:00:00] case received. As for 4.

[2:00:08] >> where part

[2:00:17] >> certain.

[2:00:19] >> it that before it I mean

[2:00:20] that

[2:00:25] >> power.

[2:00:28] >> you know people are scared

[2:00:37] >> had problem but the section

[2:00:39] so when it came exercise the

[2:00:42] powers those with phone

[2:00:45] company planning and when

[2:00:49] radiation credit respect to

[2:00:54] our loyal customers. It's a

[2:00:58] and this is a civic way

[2:01:00] governor desantis wants that.

[2:01:08] And I premium this is this a

[2:01:19] but to move and

[2:01:24] >> they want by saying.

[2:01:25] >> the customers is not

[2:01:25] responsible for a ship to

[2:01:32] prevent.

[2:01:35] >> the 2 parents reason sure

[2:01:43] for there's it's service.

[2:01:55] General only you is going paul

[2:02:02] we're going say just. We're in

[2:02:04] right now so cells cells and

[2:02:07] play

[2:02:10] >> this is same as the city

[2:02:14] will commission staff. That

[2:02:16] was coming from commission for

[2:02:26] me. And year.

[2:02:32] >> need to go it needs to be

[2:02:33] service commission must

[2:02:34] good-faith defense will to put

[2:02:38] I but that just going to it's

[2:02:49] a reasonable that need take

[2:02:55] care of every dollar or so

[2:03:05] nation is the structure. Law.

[2:03:08] And with off that was found

[2:03:12] the city. And I'm saying we're

[2:03:20] terribly because. What I know

[2:03:22] if you move the second when

[2:03:27] for the second the submission.

[2:03:31] These they using. From

[2:03:36] building which first talk.

[2:03:39] Police 3 times that a stay. I

[2:03:49] represent project, but so many

[2:03:56] of year. You our south of the

[2:04:08] city come itself. We used fish

[2:04:16] people. People ask us to pass.

[2:04:16] This applications so we use to

[2:04:29] solve you saying. Bands and we

[2:04:44] start pole. But you hall

[2:04:47] enjoyed it. I let that you

[2:04:51] pleading with mission is. To

[2:04:52] put so we have probably

[2:04:59] wishes. Not able to get the

[2:05:03] there's 7 believes that you

[2:05:06] know. You so been to

[2:05:10] generators. The disease, but

[2:05:14] we have to have to you

[2:05:17] facilities they can not at all

[2:05:25] even they faced rolls on the

[2:05:26] you know areas of the 72 holes

[2:05:34] in it. Seem divisive and how

[2:05:41] deals with me specific. That

[2:05:43] drew in way to get information

[2:06:01] the time and but so for little

[2:06:02] and how people don't realize

[2:06:04] what it means by that power.

[2:06:06] What they our politicians are

[2:06:17] unstable. Is going because you

[2:06:27] they a lot water. Little too

[2:06:35] late strategy. What causes a

[2:06:36] of work and know the water a

[2:06:44] supply

[2:06:45] >> as we work through the

[2:06:45] development we would work with

[2:06:50] the developer to. Pay for all

[2:06:51] and install the infrastructure

[2:06:52] necessary for their

[2:06:57] development we very similar

[2:06:57] things as our community grows

[2:07:01] we have going on at star

[2:07:04] they're paying for the

[2:07:05] connection for the water in

[2:07:05] the pipes, so this is a

[2:07:06] standard process that the city

[2:07:13] uses.

[2:07:20] >> questions

[2:07:24] >> it is that project it is

[2:07:25] not going to use a lot of

[2:07:27] water. It's all just because

[2:07:31] it's close the system. Eyes or

[2:07:35] questions on and just remember

[2:07:45] you know search and. For us.

[2:07:46] >> reason learning more cost

[2:07:48] of

[2:08:01] we

[2:08:15] >> ice your thank are

[2:08:20] >> we we have all 3 that the

[2:08:21] most important piece of needs

[2:08:26] to accomplish. There are

[2:08:33] this coming we will insist

[2:08:34] that this find should it a

[2:08:43] long path. And so what I what

[2:08:46] best practices. So we make

[2:08:47] sure the. Include in our

[2:08:55] regulation. So.

[2:08:57] >> well that general are very

[2:09:01] similar at the a lot of power

[2:09:06] related question.

[2:09:08] >> MISTER City I think to

[2:09:09] answer these questions again

[2:09:11] not specific to this crime.

[2:09:16] Sure in general. And in my

[2:09:19] race. I we learned.

[2:09:30] So like

[2:09:43] us areas

[2:09:44] >> so I was really surprised

[2:09:52] started working that are so

[2:09:53] >> what

[2:09:54] >> does passes so my question

[2:09:57] to you

[2:10:11] we have I trust to what some

[2:10:14] of the best practices in other

[2:10:17] ways of

[2:10:20] >> rather than being. Totally

[2:10:23] depend water.

[2:10:30] >> thanks for the question the

[2:10:31] first thing say is that he

[2:10:31] said does offer a model

[2:10:34] ordinance crimes if you ever

[2:10:35] want access for speaker for

[2:10:36] happy to connect you guys in

[2:10:39] future workshop you can help

[2:10:41] our goal is not to push

[2:10:41] projects improve the

[2:10:43] conversation to offer more

[2:10:43] facts.

[2:10:44] >> and that's that's kind of

[2:10:47] where I it's hard to without a

[2:10:50] doubt right we're seeing

[2:10:51] massive data production in

[2:10:51] texas.

[2:10:57] I as I mentioned in my remarks

[2:10:57] I would not advocate for some

[2:10:58] of the matter is that they

[2:10:59] utilize I think it's been a

[2:11:02] bit too much. We can learn

[2:11:04] from them we are seeing it

[2:11:04] very spartan arizona another

[2:11:07] find it and and you know,

[2:11:11] let's not it's not just

[2:11:11] americans having this

[2:11:14] conversation seeing lots of

[2:11:15] folks from the globe that and

[2:11:19] we're seeing announcements

[2:11:19] countries across the globe

[2:11:20] that are a very hot air

[2:11:22] requirements that are saying

[2:11:22] we will take all the data

[2:11:25] center part that rowley's to

[2:11:29] your point which is you know

[2:11:33] we this country to have laws

[2:11:35] and regulations and standards

[2:11:37] citizen engagement and elected

[2:11:39] officials and process that's

[2:11:40] general important that we

[2:11:41] pursue this in our country and

[2:11:46] our state certainly because.

[2:11:48] Countries do this without laws

[2:11:48] and regulations and citizen

[2:11:49] engagement and elected

[2:11:52] officials and also say in

[2:11:56] exchange access to your

[2:11:57] frontier models any of us

[2:11:58] whether you're in georgia or

[2:12:02] florida or texas. Let me just

[2:12:03] start in terms of cooling.

[2:12:04] It's really a trade-off it's

[2:12:06] water or electricity. There's

[2:12:07] really no other way to cool

[2:12:10] its a car. You've got to with

[2:12:12] cool that's it. So it's a

[2:12:14] decision for the council to

[2:12:16] make and it's it's a standard

[2:12:19] for you to hold the developer

[2:12:19] I can't speak to that project,

[2:12:20] I'm familiar with it, I don't

[2:12:23] know the details pretty big

[2:12:24] that's not a bad that can be a

[2:12:27] great thing if done properly,

[2:12:28] but really when it comes to

[2:12:29] calling it the water

[2:12:29] consumption issue working

[2:12:32] consumption. Earned some

[2:12:32] sunshine. And that's the

[2:12:33] tradeoff that you have to and

[2:12:39] that's just kind of worked

[2:12:43] >> I have come to understand

[2:12:47] that.

[2:12:52] >> or well designed system is

[2:13:03] the data staff. So. Are

[2:13:09] getting

[2:13:21] with that. Don't have any data

[2:13:35] what what are some world

[2:13:36] >> what are

[2:13:47] >> want how rain all are they.

[2:13:50] Water.

[2:13:55] >> it's it's the same dynamic

[2:13:55] so.

[2:13:56] >> first you cooling

[2:13:58] technologies have there's a

[2:13:59] point where we would just pump

[2:14:02] entire room full of cold air

[2:14:03] right like as if like we have

[2:14:03] food in our fridge and so

[2:14:06] we're going to cool our entire

[2:14:07] house to 50 degrees because

[2:14:08] there's food in the fridge. It

[2:14:12] was very inefficient it's

[2:14:12] evolved now the technology to

[2:14:13] where there's water literally

[2:14:14] running along the chips. That

[2:14:18] is calling the chips and

[2:14:18] outside of that these are

[2:14:22] basically empty buildings. So

[2:14:23] the power consumption I can't

[2:14:27] speak specifics, but it's not

[2:14:29] like there's a ton of other

[2:14:30] activity the chips are being

[2:14:31] called by the water which is

[2:14:32] taking the heat away so

[2:14:33] there's not in heat flowing

[2:14:36] throughout the facility.

[2:14:36] Obviously there will be air

[2:14:38] conditioning units like a

[2:14:40] costco there will be water

[2:14:41] consumption in the for

[2:14:43] security guards and the

[2:14:44] workers. There will be

[2:14:45] landscaping requirements that

[2:14:47] standard water consumption,

[2:14:48] but the cooling that talking

[2:14:50] about other successful

[2:14:51] projects. It really comes down

[2:14:53] to open closed it's closed

[2:14:56] loop is evaporating reason

[2:14:57] cool. And that's that's where

[2:14:58] the technology is it's really

[2:14:59] efficient water obviously is

[2:15:02] the best. It's the a

[2:15:04] transistor transmitter of

[2:15:07] cooling rate. It's more

[2:15:08] efficient. But it consumes

[2:15:09] more if you're going to have

[2:15:10] on the property. So that's

[2:15:11] just decision for the

[2:15:19] commission.

[2:15:27] >> is there

[2:15:39] >> certain crops center.

[2:15:52] >> we need here. It.

[2:15:52] >> we need to be so that

[2:15:59] protect.

[2:16:03] >> absolutely and the.

[2:16:04] >> it's a valid concern, I'm

[2:16:04] sure some things do exist that

[2:16:06] came out about a month my

[2:16:07] head. We do have experts on

[2:16:08] the board happy to connect the

[2:16:11] board with them a few guys on

[2:16:12] have a conversation research

[2:16:14] afterwards and provide some

[2:16:14] studies. These are legitimate

[2:16:24] questions answered.

[2:16:31] >> down.

[2:16:35] >> not a many of those data

[2:16:41] centers

[2:16:43] >> so they writing down a lot

[2:16:49] of questions out there.

[2:16:50] >> I don't know specific

[2:16:51] instances of the purpose, but

[2:16:55] the general point is I

[2:16:56] questioned what what if this

[2:16:58] what if this underneath it.

[2:16:59] What do we do with the space

[2:17:02] basically. And the answer is

[2:17:03] well what do we do in my

[2:17:07] hometown on county. You know

[2:17:07] we had a major corporate

[2:17:09] leader, name, but they left

[2:17:13] they went out of business.

[2:17:16] Nasa space nasa space that was

[2:17:18] left behind chopped off mixed

[2:17:18] use now it's a commercial real

[2:17:23] savings is ultimately so.

[2:17:25] These things will succeed or

[2:17:26] fail these are businesses at

[2:17:29] the end of the day. What we're

[2:17:31] seeing is demand is not just

[2:17:33] increasing its rapidly

[2:17:34] exponentially increasing to

[2:17:35] the point where we are

[2:17:39] exploring innovative ideas

[2:17:40] like putting them on the

[2:17:41] bottom of the ocean space

[2:17:42] because demand is such that we

[2:17:45] need to find solutions. If

[2:17:47] there is a reality in which

[2:17:47] these go back earth. There's

[2:17:50] examples in 25 years ago that

[2:17:51] you know long you know was

[2:17:52] there just purpose for other

[2:17:55] commercial purposes.

[2:17:57] >> I have to do so.

[2:18:01] >> can

[2:18:07] >> so that number.

[2:18:23] >> for and wounded. So just to

[2:18:28] pay it. Commercial and

[2:18:29] residential road.

[2:18:32] >> but not

[2:18:33] >> cracked we do a master plan

[2:18:35] and the water master plan was

[2:18:36] done in 2023. We did not this

[2:18:40] on our what I'm hearing. It's

[2:18:41] about 23,000 gallons a day for

[2:18:47] effort that's lawson half of a

[2:18:49] percent of the water that we

[2:18:50] currently have not even the

[2:18:51] projected water, but water

[2:18:55] that we have in system so

[2:18:56] knowing that we do definitely

[2:18:56] have capacity for those

[2:19:03] numbers correct. And just.

[2:19:04] >> what reading and other

[2:19:07] areas that. The fire would be.

[2:19:23] We don't

[2:19:30] >> concrete really give our

[2:19:37] and that work is done have a.

[2:19:45] Advance have just how why and

[2:19:52] requires. 1 million 4

[2:19:53] 1 million. Additional gallons

[2:19:58] for a I hear correctly you

[2:20:05] would need 7 years. 2. Be able

[2:20:07] build that capacity

[2:20:10] >> yes that correct the

[2:20:14] language in our contract with

[2:20:15] you. 2.70 partnered together

[2:20:20] very if these numbers every

[2:20:20] year. But you don't know what

[2:20:21] you do though numbers were not

[2:20:22] included even last elections.

[2:20:25] I don't believe so. Any

[2:20:28] additional water over that 4.9

[2:20:29] that you can receiving

[2:20:30] starting about 2029 would have

[2:20:33] to constructed designed built

[2:20:37] as an additional 42.

[2:20:44] >> thank you question the

[2:20:54] there's data center being 7.

[2:20:56] The maybe if made the

[2:21:02] assumption.

[2:21:17] >> thanks to on day is phase

[2:21:20] phase 2

[2:21:25] >> I think it's project I

[2:21:26] don't know what the plans of

[2:21:27] the project I would assume the

[2:21:30] staff that are in the project

[2:21:31] does plans financial it's very

[2:21:31] project depending on how they

[2:21:34] roll out how they operate.

[2:21:39] >> you also mention. I think

[2:21:51] was. 3 yeah, but you mentioned

[2:21:55] that and for center developer

[2:21:57] doesn't deliver what they said

[2:22:04] they for what are punishments

[2:22:05] and are you aware data

[2:22:10] centers.

[2:22:13] >> because provision so

[2:22:14] chapter is a florida law to

[2:22:18] mention going back to the

[2:22:18] early 70's that requires there

[2:22:25] are but a report basically any

[2:22:26] major development do and are

[2:22:30] now water use and then that is

[2:22:31] value weighted by the water

[2:22:31] management district and the

[2:22:33] department environmental

[2:22:34] protection to get the

[2:22:35] consumptive use permit launch.

[2:22:40] So so literally to say a data

[2:22:42] center will launch in training

[2:22:45] the floor of the florida from

[2:22:47] area. It could not launch

[2:22:48] without the proper evaluation

[2:22:53] done to right. If some some

[2:22:56] malfeasance was some trickery

[2:22:59] was done just by accident it's

[2:23:00] consuming more. The answer

[2:23:03] your question directly is we

[2:23:04] have not had any major got to

[2:23:06] senator dole out in florida

[2:23:06] despite numerous other states

[2:23:10] in the country. So we have not

[2:23:11] tested that before however we

[2:23:14] have a 50 year framework.

[2:23:16] Chapter 3.73 giving forsman

[2:23:19] power to the water management

[2:23:19] district to department

[2:23:22] environmental protection. Are

[2:23:22] you forcing the standards and

[2:23:25] do have the force in part and

[2:23:26] I that's probably a better

[2:23:29] question for your city

[2:23:30] attorney but I would we don't

[2:23:32] have we have not approved a

[2:23:33] single project of that scale

[2:23:36] in the state. So we have even

[2:23:39] tested my assumption would be

[2:23:40] it would be a continuation of

[2:23:43] the enforcement pattern that

[2:23:44] we've live on in the state for

[2:23:45] my entire with the winds and

[2:23:46] the living life and I'm sure

[2:23:48] many others in the in this

[2:23:50] room that has been effective.

[2:23:52] But we with I guess we shall

[2:24:00] see because we do

[2:24:10] >> day. All.

[2:24:14] >> MAY the very but comes to

[2:24:17] mind where.

[2:24:22] >> mentioned you know

[2:24:32] >> but year is. We're is here.

[2:24:33] And it is problem for this

[2:24:37] place. For that guy. For that

[2:24:41] question to sir. There's a lot

[2:24:42] questions that have to be

[2:24:46] answered in this is you know

[2:24:49] position or your physician. We

[2:24:55] but need to be by why are

[2:25:00] staff. Okay and these

[2:25:02] questions are all dollars.

[2:25:08] Only for years. Was. Are you

[2:25:22] going to be using a for well.

[2:25:23] Do you have for you.

[2:25:31] Can you show me. 50 MAY was

[2:25:35] center. So is past 20500

[2:25:43] employees. Koch, a

[2:25:43] construction you're correct,

[2:25:44] you know you're going you

[2:25:52] know. Years there you know

[2:25:59] told. Both permanent jobs. You

[2:26:01] know security garza are the

[2:26:08] actual. This is electricity

[2:26:14] travel. Okay. Servers

[2:26:16] basically a computer. It just

[2:26:22] there. Switches. Billy's

[2:26:29] transistors. Operating. People

[2:26:35] will come in. Do to make sure

[2:26:45] they ron do e. Figured rulers

[2:26:47] if since there's going love me

[2:26:50] that shouldn't be there. Today

[2:26:55] that state with weak system.

[2:26:56] How all of the fans are going

[2:27:02] need to okay over the and were

[2:27:05] the is going and that's more

[2:27:12] of that users. You know

[2:27:20] alright consider. It's you.

[2:27:20] >> we're going to go on into a

[2:27:29] second round city we're

[2:27:34] talking about 2 more of these.

[2:27:34] And a few years are we looking

[2:27:36] trying to do while

[2:27:39] >> moving forward with that

[2:27:44] please some sort of

[2:27:45] informational speakers current

[2:27:45] updates and once we get

[2:27:48] information on what the actual

[2:27:48] plans are.

[2:27:55] >> maybe do it workshop on

[2:27:58] because the public needs to to

[2:27:59] be would not he's not going to

[2:28:01] be 6 months down the road

[2:28:02] going to we're going to try do

[2:28:03] this my way to where we can

[2:28:04] update citizens keep them on

[2:28:09] board.

[2:28:11] >> comes their commissioners

[2:28:12] with because we questions and

[2:28:13] answers from the public except

[2:28:17] for your public comment. Is

[2:28:18] also a question you MAY want

[2:28:23] had asked durham commission

[2:28:29] workshop so I just want we've

[2:28:30] got we're going to take a 15

[2:28:32] minute break it's a 25 will be

[2:28:41] your 7 years. Learned a lot

[2:28:41] still learning every one of

[2:28:49] the greatest thing about the

[2:28:55] job is

[2:28:58] >> just throw the conditions

[2:29:06] of all set. This responders so

[2:29:13] there detail. 40 long to for

[2:29:25] most and told can station

[2:29:30] staff staff over to and

[2:29:38] information. You too. Started

[2:29:47] if your because conservatives

[2:29:48] >> was that this would be last

[2:29:50] dance state of florida.

[2:29:54] >> sure you. The soared.

[2:30:05] Commissioners. But status. And

[2:30:13] of the state legislatures.

[2:30:14] Love science. So it's very

[2:30:17] accessible with ease to access

[2:30:18] those areas. And the question

[2:30:21] for board member who was safe.

[2:30:29] Is. Finalize. And we'll see

[2:30:33] the. The to way is is not

[2:30:43] safe. And sure recall, to what

[2:30:47] extent it's safe animals. But

[2:30:47] it's not safe for animals,

[2:30:48] think it's safe

[2:30:50] but the this is just too.

[2:31:00] Pretty of you know this

[2:31:06] project. Discussing both

[2:31:12] steering perez to have over

[2:31:16] like I said can create source.

[2:31:28] Here show about we need space

[2:31:36] technology with become. As

[2:31:43] backwards so. For example

[2:31:55] people. As it gets cold there

[2:31:59] U.S. This people. No they

[2:32:09] don't. Said china 70 days us.

[2:32:17] Stands 4,700 probably. World.

[2:32:21] They and to be fair. Reason

[2:32:24] though staff is popping

[2:32:27] everywhere. Understand

[2:32:29] knowledge every day. But

[2:32:32] profit. It's purely profit

[2:32:38] too. Because they sell space.

[2:32:46] Storage and. Well ball. I just

[2:32:50] want you know. Have to wait

[2:32:59] see was going come off.

[2:33:02] Certainly from where started.

[2:33:06] That is the need to supply.

[2:33:07] For those he's not going to be

[2:33:15] sufficient. Way. Trista city

[2:33:25] that's when guys to have

[2:33:26] something innovative and that

[2:33:32] is it's the other. Generators.

[2:33:40] And if we you know. Far 7

[2:33:46] days, whatever. And something

[2:33:51] into discussion to discuss. So

[2:33:54] will lead forward. With that

[2:33:59] they desire leave that was my

[2:34:04] question. Jeremy and the water

[2:34:09] side if it comes to. You know

[2:34:14] just our land. Stays. Can you

[2:34:18] request the worst it. Question

[2:34:27] to and well this

[2:34:28] >> yes, sir, part of our

[2:34:30] normal development review

[2:34:33] process don't be the what did

[2:34:37] band would be past year of u.

[2:34:38] We would through a deep dive

[2:34:39] in this process which

[2:34:45] unfortunately not there yet.

[2:34:46] >> and how take specific part

[2:34:50] because not just simple do

[2:34:57] space for we

[2:35:00] >> we're used to treat

[2:35:01] patients move that vary when

[2:35:03] we do our water master plans

[2:35:03] just for the city and how we

[2:35:04] evaluate takes about a year

[2:35:07] for a master plan.

[2:35:09] >> so along with that.

[2:35:18] Because I think you know

[2:35:21] place.

[2:35:22] Just

[2:35:28] I the city. To this. This is

[2:35:32] meant to

[2:35:38] >> commissioners to sort of so

[2:35:42] weird thing to from process

[2:35:43] here you know I said when I

[2:35:46] first I think pretty obvious

[2:35:51] that. Well we don't have

[2:35:55] details yet exactly said these

[2:35:55] people plan on building

[2:35:56] presume that close system that

[2:36:04] said. I was yes they pow it's

[2:36:07] an electrical substation the

[2:36:11] evaporation. The evacuation.

[2:36:16] That's a station. It's going

[2:36:17] to be 2 billion gallons a

[2:36:29] year. Reality that might be.

[2:36:34] Power is being very. The lee

[2:36:34] unclear there's not the

[2:36:39] capacity. To provide that kind

[2:36:40] of war all those system is

[2:36:46] going to take water. We so it

[2:36:50] depends use it or using over

[2:36:51] led you to moving the process

[2:36:56] we said ok. What's available

[2:36:57] out there the logic avoid

[2:37:05] usual dollars. To replace for

[2:37:06] us there suspicions. Well,

[2:37:11] yeah, got so worried no win.

[2:37:15] All's whether or not this

[2:37:26] apple we are okay so.

[2:37:28] The of the moratorium that we

[2:37:35] in we just or stop it doesn't

[2:37:39] last all the process. If

[2:37:44] >> stop process.

[2:37:46] >> okay on secondary we killed

[2:37:46] field we decided you know

[2:37:51] let's it. It stopped happens.

[2:37:55] we will there how way we will

[2:38:01] never father was and you worry

[2:38:02] at all. The only solution soon

[2:38:06] to because they said they

[2:38:13] develop we've know commit

[2:38:13] anything to address anything

[2:38:19] to solve they MAY never be

[2:38:21] able to solve our satisfaction

[2:38:23] but is a so impossible the

[2:38:31] what loss. Poor. Making is no

[2:38:35] before we know the because

[2:38:37] right now there's no it's

[2:38:38] going to be able powers saying

[2:38:44] there's no you system. I don't

[2:38:45] you so could use solar moved

[2:38:50] here when or anything so the

[2:38:52] reality think project is quite

[2:38:58] frankly, we stopped ourselves

[2:39:03] I think we go to the citizens

[2:39:05] of this city, but the city

[2:39:10] itself to I don't feel you

[2:39:12] know that's need to learn I

[2:39:17] don't think even all they're

[2:39:18] part part of that they serve

[2:39:19] if you look at location in

[2:39:26] cars our it specifically work.

[2:39:32] They sent her a cell maney.

[2:39:39] Will say from seconds spent

[2:39:41] which what palin whole lot all

[2:39:46] home look at. You how it's

[2:39:49] going to be doesn't meet our

[2:39:50] standards and all of we get

[2:39:52] regulation. Strong words

[2:39:57] relations and we help for

[2:39:58] that. Our variable of war and

[2:40:03] coal resources to these do it.

[2:40:04] So that we can assure

[2:40:06] ourselves and we were there

[2:40:13] forward. Made a stand for this

[2:40:15] deal happening. I'm seeing way

[2:40:16] proceed with this because I as

[2:40:24] I said we're over city of we

[2:40:26] here and we show at second

[2:40:27] reading show going to issue

[2:40:32] just we said I just see

[2:40:39] because in in my I don't way.

[2:40:45] This is ever ever be able to I

[2:40:48] just I feel that we've got

[2:40:49] movie set before becomes

[2:40:52] extremely obvious that it can

[2:40:56] done to our satisfaction keep

[2:40:57] this in perspective because

[2:41:01] this is going to be a process.

[2:41:01] Ok going to solved overnight

[2:41:04] and one thing elected

[2:41:11] officials I really got

[2:41:13] patience allow some work some

[2:41:17] of because the what where the

[2:41:23] care patients simply shows to

[2:41:24] reject with people projects

[2:41:28] because do things and now su

[2:41:38] over money. Painful to pay for

[2:41:40] that what I want is to make

[2:41:42] sure that this for the he's

[2:41:45] got shouldn't happen. But that

[2:41:54] happen the way says.

[2:41:55] >> I it just couple of quick

[2:41:56] ones couple general questions

[2:41:57] sunday.

[2:42:09] >> times for think I'm getting

[2:42:10] a clearer idea what hyperscale

[2:42:12] data center is isn't. I want

[2:42:14] question him is the cloud.

[2:42:19] Data centers.

[2:42:21] >> did they generate the same

[2:42:25] need for power for scale does.

[2:42:30] >> so the answer to that is.

[2:42:31] That's going to be a cloud of

[2:42:31] cloud is just the physical

[2:42:35] infrastructure of the you know

[2:42:37] when when we we signed up for

[2:42:38] microsoft's engine to go

[2:42:39] somewhere that document goes

[2:42:39] so it goes somewhere right so

[2:42:41] it could be. Could be a

[2:42:42] co-location hyper scape very

[2:42:43] likely as I first got this

[2:42:48] microsoft. Essentially the

[2:42:48] short answer is any size could

[2:42:53] be a

[2:42:55] >> that you know you get a

[2:42:55] small yeah they're all

[2:42:57] essentially operating costs.

[2:43:03] >> thank you.

[2:43:03] >> colocation is more like the

[2:43:04] rent it's a

[2:43:08] implications of I mean I sense

[2:43:14] was.

[2:43:14] >> I.

[2:43:15] >> requires so power and say

[2:43:16] entire structure is all

[2:43:23] connected. Occasions soda. In

[2:43:29] the energy. Requirements okay

[2:43:29] for for sure.

[2:43:37] >> colocation years canned

[2:43:37] they're generally not

[2:43:39] large-scale facilities right

[2:43:42] seeing those all over the

[2:43:43] state. Those are operating,

[2:43:46] I'm sure tampa. I'm sure in on

[2:43:47] the ceiling. They are they can

[2:43:51] be in a. It can be in office

[2:43:52] of warehouse area district

[2:43:55] they can be a storage unit, I

[2:43:57] mean these things very inside

[2:44:01] saying I'm so they can be

[2:44:02] anywhere from. I mean I would

[2:44:04] say they're definitely less

[2:44:04] than 50 megawatts is what I

[2:44:08] would say they're generally

[2:44:09] significantly less which is

[2:44:11] why there's really not the

[2:44:13] controversy around and they

[2:44:13] don't increased to these

[2:44:18] massive numbers because that's

[2:44:18] it's like it's like buying a

[2:44:19] 100 homes in the neighborhood

[2:44:22] of them all out some of

[2:44:24] operators want to you know via

[2:44:25] 5 homes and rent out those

[2:44:25] so that on the site's okay

[2:44:26] that's a good analogy. I

[2:44:31] appreciate it.

[2:44:34] >> monday night came up with

[2:44:35] interesting suggestion like to

[2:44:40] see if you are aware eunice

[2:44:41] the pallet requiring or

[2:44:46] hyperscale datacenters

[2:44:50] >> but they suggested that the

[2:44:51] developer she says via set

[2:44:53] aside some kind protest.

[2:44:58] >> money to correct any

[2:44:58] potential.

[2:44:59] >> anticipated environmental

[2:45:03] impacts are you aware that

[2:45:04] happening.

[2:45:05] >> I'm not I'm happy to

[2:45:07] research it send results yeah

[2:45:09] I think core principle there

[2:45:10] is these things need to be

[2:45:13] negotiated intelligently. The

[2:45:18] discussions to so in this

[2:45:19] particular for this particular

[2:45:20] project because seems like it

[2:45:20] was it was carved out I

[2:45:24] believe the other night. When

[2:45:26] you when you communities stuck

[2:45:27] in these more times you do you

[2:45:27] know able to have these

[2:45:38] conversations.

[2:45:39] >> thank you very much for

[2:45:43] being we really I mean the

[2:45:44] information.

[2:45:48] >> we probably fact was thank

[2:45:52] you very much for coming

[2:45:57] >> give the you tell

[2:45:58] >> and sitting calm public

[2:46:01] comment on this I

[2:46:05] >> person yes, it survey. And

[2:46:17] tim

[2:46:18] >> good evening jen costa

[2:46:19] again.

[2:46:23] >> appreciate.

[2:46:24] >> the information we heard

[2:46:28] from the experts tonight as

[2:46:28] everybody has made the

[2:46:32] distinction very clear.

[2:46:35] Presentation is not yet okay

[2:46:36] shun. We can hear stories work

[2:46:38] senators can do what they

[2:46:44] typically do. And what they

[2:46:45] MAY use. But what matters

[2:46:47] to north port is what the par.

[2:46:51] We'll actually do.

[2:46:52] >> we still don't know what

[2:46:53] cooling technology. The park

[2:46:55] will actually use.

[2:46:57] Commissioner still some so

[2:47:02] said presumably.

[2:47:03] >> that's one of those with

[2:47:03] words commissioner petros

[2:47:07] mansion.

[2:47:09] >> and that's particularly

[2:47:12] important because the city's

[2:47:13] own correction comments

[2:47:16] specifically work by the

[2:47:17] applicant to provide details

[2:47:21] on industrial past seas. We

[2:47:22] still don't have the project

[2:47:27] specific support calculation.

[2:47:27] >> for the 100 see assumption

[2:47:31] underlying its water

[2:47:33] calculation we check claiming

[2:47:34] average potable demand a

[2:47:37] 15,000 gallons per day

[2:47:40] proposes a wastewater

[2:47:41] treatment plant people believe

[2:47:44] treating half million gallons.

[2:47:44] Those questions about either

[2:47:47] sent there's generally there

[2:47:47] are questions about this

[2:47:53] application can. Could

[2:47:55] presumably assuming in

[2:47:58] typically are not commitments.

[2:47:59] Anyone remember the bridge on

[2:48:04] tuscola. And court understands

[2:48:07] why distinction matters a

[2:48:09] benefit development review is

[2:48:09] very different from an

[2:48:10] obligation that is actually

[2:48:14] written down forcible. The

[2:48:15] city is approving a

[2:48:17] hypothetical data center. It

[2:48:20] said that only waiting this

[2:48:22] one. It's a representation

[2:48:24] about water use cooling

[2:48:25] technology or infrastructure

[2:48:26] is important enough to really

[2:48:29] reassure this community

[2:48:29] tonight. It's important not to

[2:48:32] put in the application after 2

[2:48:33] submissions we shouldn't have

[2:48:35] to rely with this project

[2:48:36] could be the application

[2:48:39] should tell us what it is and

[2:48:39] just for everybody is

[2:48:43] knowledge just yesterday.

[2:48:44] Congress held a hearing on

[2:48:47] legislation to designate all

[2:48:48] 34 miles of the myakka river

[2:48:51] and sarasota county as wild

[2:48:52] and scenic that specifically

[2:48:55] recognizes north port's

[2:48:56] commitment to protecting the

[2:48:59] through its comprehensive plan

[2:49:03] and land development

[2:49:04] regulations that makes getting

[2:49:04] the watershed and receiving

[2:49:06] water analysis right,

[2:49:07] especially important. Thank

[2:49:21] you.

[2:49:23] Well evening, everybody.

[2:49:30] >> quite workshop. Now as the

[2:49:42] e p. To say you left. MISTER

[2:49:44] Said listening to and I want

[2:49:48] right now. This year cities

[2:49:57] grew. So saying. It's college.

[2:50:05] >> it's

[2:50:08] >> should never feel are real

[2:50:14] similar bill gatherings

[2:50:17] >> you know the best richard

[2:50:19] pearson said appeared it to 72

[2:50:26] years several 7. The expansion

[2:50:45] the peace

[2:50:46] >> insists it work on it for

[2:50:47] the last 3, 4, years at the

[2:50:52] podium. But I want to tell you

[2:50:53] to a warning that went out the

[2:50:56] f and window with me. Deserve

[2:51:04] better.

[2:51:05] >> we're going to start making

[2:51:16] an example and never and to

[2:51:26] it. And you should be

[2:51:27] listening to your city

[2:51:28] attorney because I heard a lot

[2:51:30] of in this state, good jobs

[2:51:36] are.

[2:51:36] >> I could turn I don't like

[2:51:45] them at

[2:51:49] >> top expert least 8 my was a

[2:51:50] management consultant to grow

[2:51:51] up with a management

[2:51:55] consultant in your but not

[2:51:56] there was one of the top this

[2:51:59] country in world, the world.

[2:52:05] Expect taxable. College

[2:52:13] degree. You fortunate to

[2:52:22] expertise. This is a no for

[2:52:22] the entire state of florida

[2:52:40] city manager.

[2:52:41] >> my

[2:52:42] >> name is sent name as you

[2:52:43] all know for those that are

[2:52:45] still here if anyone is out

[2:52:47] there and wants interview

[2:52:49] maybe because we only have 3

[2:52:51] minutes please reach out to me

[2:52:52] and let me know because this

[2:52:56] farce complete farce this

[2:52:57] workshop. Each every one of

[2:52:58] these people are trying to

[2:53:01] convey this year and ahead

[2:53:08] first of showing all all they

[2:53:10] could use at news that the

[2:53:13] reason they cannot use that

[2:53:16] the thing that they out a

[2:53:17] hunch was that you have to put

[2:53:28] use it said was and as put you

[2:53:32] guys don't want to be a poster

[2:53:34] child that was that recorder

[2:53:35] for either, so I think that

[2:53:46] talked about

[2:53:47] >> you that's what just so

[2:53:52] they use there's not a single

[2:53:57] municipality have the to

[2:54:07] prepared me for centers that

[2:54:11] 2000 counties now also in the

[2:54:11] state asking why me because

[2:54:14] they're saying that it's

[2:54:17] unconstitutional so 80% of

[2:54:17] state has the power and don't

[2:54:24] have power. But dissenters pay

[2:54:26] for anything because they

[2:54:29] complaining they have any so

[2:54:43] to to get have admit trying to

[2:54:50] get as you reach out to me you

[2:54:52] this has so there are

[2:54:53] situation you're going to get

[2:54:58] the water and 7 not her

[2:55:00] already going to pay for the

[2:55:03] part and then they're going to

[2:55:06] be able sell because of s p

[2:55:11] not allowed to put terrorism

[2:55:13] much of regulation want come

[2:55:16] so and the state of the

[2:55:18] constitution she in apartment

[2:55:19] put the ball at the time of

[2:55:25] the department concept. But

[2:55:26] all that and regulations don't

[2:55:33] have anything now happening in

[2:55:34] the state of have control over

[2:55:40] any of the snap. I just do it.

[2:55:41] >> because of lawsuit thank

[2:55:43] you sir, thank you.

[2:55:51] You're you. We are a

[2:55:56] >> I am only emerge. I'd like

[2:55:59] to advocate for data center

[2:56:00] task force that would be made

[2:56:01] up of stakeholders including

[2:56:02] at least one resident who

[2:56:05] lives within 2 miles of the

[2:56:06] proposed site and others like

[2:56:10] robin or hand. Or or lockhart

[2:56:15] from the environmental

[2:56:16] conservancy and who would

[2:56:17] study the appropriate zoning

[2:56:19] districts maintaining separate

[2:56:22] distances data centers

[2:56:22] schools.

[2:56:23] >> and neighborhood noise.

[2:56:24] Mitigation acoustic study is

[2:56:29] cooling. Discharge

[2:56:30] requirements back up solar and

[2:56:32] other generators fuel storage,

[2:56:33] noise and air pollution health

[2:56:38] issues.

[2:56:42] >> lightning visibility

[2:56:43] requirements and the public

[2:56:43] notifications and community

[2:56:44] engagement as required

[2:56:49] >> for a while. There is a

[2:56:50] have been held up due to state

[2:56:53] water permits and diesel

[2:56:54] issues. These are some of that

[2:57:00] the committee could in and

[2:57:00] then make recommendations back

[2:57:04] to the city commission when

[2:57:07] they're working on doing a

[2:57:08] ordinances.

[2:57:08] >> I believe that committee

[2:57:11] made up of.

[2:57:12] >> stakeholders in this

[2:57:15] community and others will be a

[2:57:18] great asset to the city. Door

[2:57:20] in 18 month or thank you for

[2:57:35] consideration.

[2:57:38] >> well I'm rate or resident

[2:57:39] of port and I want to come

[2:57:40] thank all of the commissioners

[2:57:46] so city attorney. This

[2:57:50] workshop is way everybody's.

[2:57:51] Need to understand what is

[2:57:53] really 80's. How often the 2

[2:57:57] issues every single day.

[2:57:58] Person uses a data center a in

[2:58:01] 4 times a day. That's just

[2:58:04] showing your smart device.

[2:58:07] Asking to not through with

[2:58:09] this more important. The

[2:58:15] reason is necessary.

[2:58:15] >> as we work to it takes 2

[2:58:18] years to build them anyway. On

[2:58:19] top the fact you've got to

[2:58:23] find out about the water. The

[2:58:25] and you know maybe it's going

[2:58:27] to take longer anyway. We also

[2:58:30] don't know enough about. What

[2:58:33] this development going to be

[2:58:34] is it going to be a megawatt

[2:58:36] site we don't know that. When

[2:58:36] there's a lot of centrists

[2:58:42] tonight. That effort. I

[2:58:43] learned a long time ago never

[2:58:44] make assumptions you're almost

[2:58:47] always going to be wrong. I

[2:58:47] worked in it sector for 15

[2:58:51] years. I've been inside

[2:58:54] center's of installing a lot

[2:58:54] reporting, iran tables, I were

[2:58:55] in fire and that works.

[2:58:57] They're now out. I'm not

[2:59:02] there. I've been many of them.

[2:59:03] Throughout you have traveled

[2:59:06] the country doing out can. Now

[2:59:10] I'm here in port. And you me

[2:59:14] understand but. 110.

[2:59:20] Dissenters. Plan for up to a

[2:59:21] lot more. They range from

[2:59:21] anywhere from 10 megawatts to

[2:59:26] 40 megawatts. For the smaller

[2:59:26] we have a new north port I

[2:59:31] guarantee you don't know in

[2:59:31] just a blank in the building

[2:59:35] grab a beverage they want no.

[2:59:37] There's also walmart and

[2:59:37] center's public said a

[2:59:39] sanders. I guarantee a focal

[2:59:44] point as every time you know

[2:59:46] uss anything when you're full.

[2:59:50] You're accessing days

[2:59:51] everybody in this room even on

[2:59:54] monday maybe 500 people here.

[2:59:55] Everybody when there is always

[2:59:59] that. Every time they went

[3:00:00] from playing on facebook about

[3:00:00] you all here. They're using it

[3:00:04] isn't. Really want to get

[3:00:07] across commissioners here. You

[3:00:12] people that live in newark.

[3:00:12] It's not just people here

[3:00:20] posing okay. Where we're just

[3:00:20] in the beginning stages,

[3:00:23] what's about to happen. We're

[3:00:24] we're in the next big this is

[3:00:25] like when the internet first

[3:00:29] started. This is where we are.

[3:00:32] Is that where you're going to

[3:00:33] be here. What I'm asking you

[3:00:34] all and have a challenge do.

[3:00:35] >> is that your

[3:00:58] >> thank you, thank thank you.

[3:00:58] >> but I don't really have a

[3:01:00] script from

[3:01:04] >> talk about

[3:01:05] >> everybody is talking about

[3:01:07] the logistics of how the state

[3:01:08] senate and the sales person

[3:01:12] who came off. What's going

[3:01:16] now. Should to say how wants

[3:01:21] this nobody here wants to

[3:01:26] that. Well that people here

[3:01:28] one day and 3 know there's for

[3:01:29] wanted it plays pops.

[3:01:33] >> regardless. The majority do

[3:01:35] not want the vocal majority.

[3:01:38] People concerned. But why is

[3:01:39] it not enough that nobody

[3:01:40] wants this. This was plan a

[3:01:44] secret. You know it was never

[3:01:45] brought to the public to you

[3:01:48] know that it there was votes

[3:01:48] we don't really know how many

[3:01:49] people want this how many

[3:01:50] people doubt. It's just the

[3:01:55] word the developers you know I

[3:01:57] don't know name was technology

[3:01:58] guy. Doesn't work. But I'm

[3:01:59] sure sounds like is really

[3:02:07] selling there's fun eckstein

[3:02:09] was really good marvin ski was

[3:02:10] one of the founding fathers

[3:02:12] and ai that's kind of like a.

[3:02:17] Heard same bill gates. The you

[3:02:17] know people who made this

[3:02:20] technology. Not very

[3:02:22] trustworthy people got very

[3:02:24] grateful. I just don't trust

[3:02:27] and course playful about you

[3:02:31] know officers about the

[3:02:32] environment and the noise

[3:02:33] pollution that haven't been

[3:02:35] addressed says and we still

[3:02:36] want to make it work happening

[3:02:37] work.

[3:02:40] >> we don't want work we do

[3:02:41] nobody asked for except the

[3:02:47] developers paired

[3:02:49] >> and they are monday was for

[3:02:52] 2.

[3:03:07] >> thank you

[3:03:08] >> well I can room was

[3:03:10] alarming.

[3:03:13] >> we've got 6 those

[3:03:14] applications. You know no idea

[3:03:16] what you accept

[3:03:19] >> you know you know hour from

[3:03:21] how much for.

[3:03:26] >> what kind of system. But

[3:03:27] the war. You've got pose tech

[3:03:33] and you don't. So seems to

[3:03:33] really grow what kind of data

[3:03:38] collected here. You know you

[3:03:39] guys put out my welcome

[3:03:40] images, it's got your pictures

[3:03:41] your great, it's always play.

[3:03:44] What is a tough loss ever.

[3:03:47] Water for clark that's a 4th

[3:03:55] amendment violation. We've got

[3:03:55] dressing from sides of should

[3:04:02] we do it. That's all I said,

[3:04:02] but I think you guys should

[3:04:04] homework. Get your act

[3:04:19] together.

[3:04:27] >> hello there for PRESIDENT.

[3:04:28] So this is an issue that

[3:04:30] deeply resonates with me in my

[3:04:34] community we see. So I just

[3:04:39] want to start the same. And

[3:04:39] we'll continue to say that we

[3:04:40] to this issue objectively with

[3:04:42] and use it. But then

[3:04:46] immediately go get military.

[3:04:47] As a company want to do what's

[3:04:52] best for us. And we need to be

[3:04:52] critical in how we view and

[3:04:53] consider the plan for this and

[3:04:57] it the for service. That's

[3:05:04] exactly what mortuary give us.

[3:05:05] And just they get I don't

[3:05:05] think anyone is for that

[3:05:10] because of the impact will

[3:05:15] present reasonable. They're

[3:05:16] saying takes 7 years to prove

[3:05:16] prepare and construct

[3:05:17] necessary infrastructure for

[3:05:20] the water. And 2 years on top

[3:05:24] of to build a data center.

[3:05:26] That's already 9 years living

[3:05:27] taking tell of delays her can

[3:05:29] be a concern that months to

[3:05:30] recover from. We don't have

[3:05:32] over the course of 9 years

[3:05:36] that's going be on the decade.

[3:05:36] So tell us what I hope for

[3:05:37] money will be invested into

[3:05:42] that. It is time national

[3:05:44] resources are diminishing

[3:05:45] about speeds and climate

[3:05:46] change is showing effects

[3:05:48] across the world and more and

[3:05:49] species are becoming

[3:05:52] endangered little mix tape. We

[3:05:53] as a society being my full

[3:05:56] house. We manage our resources

[3:05:59] and what effect time. In our

[3:06:01] community. In our state

[3:06:04] dinner. For the in the world.

[3:06:05] You guys are making decisions

[3:06:06] for the next generation.

[3:06:11] Whatever you decide those

[3:06:12] effects will come back to us

[3:06:12] in those responsibilities with

[3:06:15] all of us so I just asked

[3:06:16] consider that is I love and I

[3:06:30] think speaks inc.

[3:06:34] >> I this is just for we're

[3:06:36] doing on one's for this time

[3:06:39] then general will be to me I

[3:06:43] been able speak to do put it

[3:06:43] because we have a general

[3:06:45] comment coming up next. Just

[3:06:48] say we're not

[3:07:06] >> she's going to do the

[3:12:56] >> house negatively impact our

[3:13:00] surrounding national

[3:13:05] environmental. Constant

[3:13:06] exposure to such panic attacks

[3:13:06] changes in animal behavior, 7

[3:13:12] engines and us. You household

[3:13:18] and when process. There's just

[3:13:26] there 1020 jobs. But they or

[3:13:28] security certainly city with

[3:13:29] the presence of a for city

[3:13:30] commissioners to a track and

[3:13:37] structure dozen or north deal.

[3:13:40] For the proposed comment city

[3:13:41] staff assembling presentation

[3:13:48] is easy presentation to file a

[3:13:49] motion are starting to present

[3:13:54] all sides they work extremely

[3:13:56] one side the making us believe

[3:14:00] it was assembled by about to

[3:14:05] it pollution. Continuous going

[3:14:10] and furious testing of diesel

[3:14:22] generators, nearby pollution.

[3:14:23] Particular service land and

[3:14:24] habitat loss for thousands of

[3:14:25] acres leading to the loss of

[3:14:30] agricultural land. Open

[3:14:36] something for impact on the

[3:14:46] city as a whole want to just

[3:14:51] for action but for their edge

[3:14:53] because in our region we need

[3:14:55] absolute transparency

[3:14:57] regarding where it's going or

[3:15:04] comes from and city engineers

[3:15:05] answer the millions of gallons

[3:15:09] of water per day average one

[3:15:16] system. Long-term especially

[3:15:17] to season when regional supply

[3:15:20] base natural strain. Drinking

[3:15:20] water nation will city

[3:15:29] guarantee. Utility will always

[3:15:33] take going need pass raindrop

[3:15:36] emergency kind contamination

[3:15:40] rest point have frequently to

[3:15:45] provide we just was this

[3:15:47] enough for all place to ensure

[3:15:56] toxic end to our regional that

[3:15:57] point remaining high trade

[3:16:03] countries that. Capitals where

[3:16:07] is about 10 to discharge is

[3:16:10] waste struck in the structure

[3:16:10] safely process contaminating

[3:16:17] our surrounding bar.

[3:16:17] >> we cannot were to its

[3:16:26] safety or destination. Thank

[3:16:28] you taking the time to listen

[3:16:35] to constituents anywhere else.

[3:16:36] Says do being built in any of

[3:16:40] our surrounding areas, labor

[3:16:41] me of our collective ability

[3:16:45] to officially on to the

[3:16:48] earners should predicted and

[3:16:51] happened utility cost test

[3:16:52] hawaii and pass an increase of

[3:16:55] fossil fuel use leading to

[3:16:59] worsen climate change their

[3:17:01] risk to people's physical all

[3:17:04] economic health of job was

[3:17:06] pass these systems surrounding

[3:17:07] properties businesses schools,

[3:17:12] care facilities

[3:17:14] >> see city and other states

[3:17:17] at regulations and

[3:17:18] institutions with friend

[3:17:19] change really our national

[3:17:27] disasters are not strachan's.

[3:17:28] Fact exaggerate facing

[3:17:29] environmental economic and

[3:17:32] health issues also we need to

[3:17:42] index potential prizes where

[3:17:42] our we were worsening

[3:17:50] strategies. Class using the

[3:17:53] power can to see greater

[3:17:54] entire nation of citizens with

[3:18:01] passengers and meant seemed

[3:18:02] real leaders to fight the side

[3:18:04] of people said.

[3:18:11] >> move to our final

[3:18:12] >> first first last

[3:18:23] has answered.

[3:18:24] >> good evening and thank you

[3:18:26] that's one place like

[3:18:27] definitely would not want to

[3:18:28] be tonight the last few nights

[3:18:32] is a guys so. So I just want

[3:18:35] to say a couple what they

[3:18:36] would like to see after this

[3:18:40] battle is for maybe the city

[3:18:40] attorney to work with

[3:18:41] everybody in creating a dozen

[3:18:44] or ordinance for the city. I

[3:18:47] think there would be good

[3:18:47] moving forward for everybody

[3:18:48] least set ground rules say you

[3:18:49] know we want this and don't

[3:18:53] want this. Obviously from

[3:18:54] public comment the last couple

[3:18:57] stuff that's something

[3:18:58] the people or citizens

[3:19:00] of north port long I don't

[3:19:04] think it's because people

[3:19:06] against that's on we all enjoy

[3:19:07] picking up our cell phones

[3:19:09] being able to access facebook

[3:19:10] and and be able to read our

[3:19:13] e-mails are making notes.

[3:19:14] That's not a bad thing you

[3:19:18] know just keeps a small kids

[3:19:20] is working. But thing when

[3:19:21] they built these data centers

[3:19:24] cities that 5 natural

[3:19:25] resources already or low on

[3:19:28] water as it is over struck

[3:19:30] shuns and yet these guys want

[3:19:30] to come in and take over much

[3:19:34] of our resources that we just

[3:19:35] don't have I think that we

[3:19:36] need some ground rules

[3:19:37] and stuff in the future. I

[3:19:42] think that's a good for.

[3:19:43] >> couple things that I want

[3:19:44] to point out in regard to the

[3:19:48] ordinance the data center

[3:19:48] ordinance.

[3:19:49] >> calls sierra club and so

[3:19:54] believe that was. They've got

[3:19:55] some ordinance informational

[3:19:56] stuff on their website its

[3:20:00] year dot org. I mean it's a

[3:20:01] great resources to look up to

[3:20:02] see what some of the other

[3:20:05] jurisdictions to suffer do it.

[3:20:06] There's also some the stuff

[3:20:09] that I think look at they're

[3:20:11] doing studies that I think

[3:20:11] texas regarding the

[3:20:16] environmental health impacts

[3:20:18] showing that there is increase

[3:20:18] in asthma premature deaths and

[3:20:22] due to stephanie area. Witness

[3:20:27] to a 3 mile radius and stuff.

[3:20:28] So that's something that we

[3:20:29] might want to look at as far

[3:20:32] some air quality monitor noise

[3:20:32] and other. I know you guys

[3:20:33] talk about noise ordinances

[3:20:38] stuff earlier.

[3:20:39] >> one of the other arizona

[3:20:44] maricopa it's pretty famous

[3:20:45] county. But they're canceling

[3:20:45] infrastructure improvements

[3:20:46] laying off or new homes

[3:20:46] because they don't have the

[3:20:48] resources because they are

[3:20:48] used up.

[3:20:51] >> for all the that they love

[3:20:59] it. Let's see there there was

[3:20:59] mayor who will and microsoft

[3:21:01] within their jurisdiction and

[3:21:02] they had resources was

[3:21:03] resources to be able to

[3:21:06] provide for new residents to

[3:21:09] the area. So resources are.

[3:21:13] Are valuable and like I said

[3:21:16] I'm not against U.S. On this,

[3:21:17] but I am against putting them

[3:21:19] in areas that what you within

[3:21:21] a couple miles of the house,

[3:21:22] you know that further and they

[3:21:23] need to be in areas where the

[3:21:37] resource

[3:21:38] >> well good evening,

[3:21:47] everybody sir. I 33 that's. So

[3:21:48] a lot of time for a private

[3:21:55] citizen to give. To relate

[3:21:56] which some of their oxygen in

[3:22:01] life and their turn.

[3:22:01] >> mental horsepower

[3:22:05] incapacity.

[3:22:08] >> we all

[3:22:09] >> last few weeks here with

[3:22:12] this whole world. Thing and

[3:22:19] they tend not. Tell you what

[3:22:19] the general consensus is

[3:22:25] nobody wants this.

[3:22:26] >> we like our we like doubt

[3:22:30] and we like all that. What so

[3:22:37] much

[3:22:38] >> it's going to take to cool

[3:22:48] place U.S..

[3:22:55] >> of duty. You know the cats

[3:22:57] in the hospital least was

[3:23:00] grasping for is alas doused

[3:23:11] here to wait is going go out.

[3:23:15] Talk about quality of life.

[3:23:20] Roche is a more.

[3:23:21] >> because what it should be

[3:23:31] number one. Art show are.

[3:23:35] >> and told

[3:23:42] >> that's some serious bowl.

[3:23:43] We should be applauding every

[3:23:43] one of our children that come

[3:24:02] up here to but shut you should

[3:24:02] fall really be concerned

[3:24:05] because I want to tell. The

[3:24:11] majority view on this board.

[3:24:12] What the truth about the

[3:24:17] water.

[3:24:22] >> anybody that not available.

[3:24:28] You attention. White city

[3:24:37] manager when turn it quality.

[3:24:48] >> I

[3:24:49] >> for the final time tonight

[3:24:54] in the center funding. Of are

[3:24:56] you saying that the word has

[3:24:58] enters a north port, you're

[3:24:59] because it is day I sitting

[3:25:01] there there are a dozen years

[3:25:01] in north port so check your

[3:25:06] facts and 40.

[3:25:09] >> as that's a hurricane it's

[3:25:14] where this all started from

[3:25:16] before one 80 every role that

[3:25:17] they were talking about when

[3:25:19] the guy was over there talking

[3:25:21] about the roles from the

[3:25:21] 1970's ordinances all the

[3:25:23] right well.

[3:25:25] >> that was a 1970's. I was 10

[3:25:33] years old.

[3:25:35] >> because it has been really

[3:25:36] in the hurricane that term

[3:25:37] meant everything from the

[3:25:41] 1970's and 80's in 19 9600,000

[3:25:52] 2026 now we're at. Actions are

[3:25:55] up a vote right now because as

[3:25:56] know it was written to get

[3:25:56] everybody back into the house

[3:26:01] because of watts. One of the

[3:26:07] nations started exporting only

[3:26:08] to santa's for 84 for get it

[3:26:15] and the guy back to other but

[3:26:16] their and their comprehensive

[3:26:17] in order to prevent all this.

[3:26:23] Not to do that. So you as we

[3:26:27] all it was all court system

[3:26:30] now it will be judges and the

[3:26:33] that make the decision there

[3:26:35] is no here that can do

[3:26:38] anything for anybody and all

[3:26:41] 67 counties because it also

[3:26:52] today. Making the roadways

[3:26:55] still judges, where people are

[3:26:57] over 2 dozen municipality, so

[3:26:59] as to saying that they want to

[3:27:00] that was unconstitutional

[3:27:03] whole world power bat. Don't I

[3:27:15] want to do it. Centers have

[3:27:15] been around since the 70's

[3:27:16] that time with time that that

[3:27:31] have to get their

[3:27:32] center's

[3:27:35] macean all to be another track

[3:27:38] you and to car the PRESIDENT

[3:27:39] Gets for the 21st century,

[3:27:40] jetsons from the 1970's,

[3:27:48] starting 0.26. Are so 100 time

[3:27:49] as most of the people on

[3:27:55] >> thank you sir.

[3:27:56] >> lisa a my job and just

[3:28:11] johnson.

[3:28:14] >> thank you for the

[3:28:15] opportunity as 35 resident

[3:28:19] here in port. Well so I have a

[3:28:19] vested interest ensuring that

[3:28:22] whatever we decide to do that

[3:28:26] it's done environmentally

[3:28:26] safe. Family and protects all

[3:28:29] of us, so that is my concern.

[3:28:30] I am going on a measure that I

[3:28:34] and support developing this

[3:28:36] area as 35 year resident I

[3:28:37] know we need this interchange

[3:28:39] for emergency evacuation

[3:28:44] purposes. Also needed for.

[3:28:46] Important we need I

[3:28:46] distribution and manufacturing

[3:28:48] dead in this area. I think you

[3:28:49] need residential. But I don't

[3:28:52] see it as a data center

[3:28:53] because of the fact that the

[3:28:54] technology is just not there

[3:28:59] to make it safe for us and the

[3:29:02] >> that already in the united

[3:29:02] states how do we want is more

[3:29:04] important to be another what

[3:29:05] we have more than my GOD

[3:29:06] looking at china for example

[3:29:10] much more people.

[3:29:11] >> the fact that they only

[3:29:12] have 400 why does the united

[3:29:12] states needs thousands and

[3:29:16] want to be a test in the paint

[3:29:16] I would like to suggest that

[3:29:17] we get with alana and she get

[3:29:21] back to developer and see if

[3:29:23] they can change business model

[3:29:23] to be something that's more

[3:29:27] conducive to all current

[3:29:30] needs. I'm hoping they see

[3:29:30] that the alley and that

[3:29:32] because whatever project is

[3:29:33] that something could be able

[3:29:34] to build going to cost them

[3:29:36] billions of dollars get it

[3:29:39] done and that the community

[3:29:41] can have better fit point was

[3:29:43] whenever suggesting mike it's

[3:29:46] eliminating pointed to the any

[3:29:48] construction so I I see

[3:29:49] henschel industrial

[3:29:50] manufacturing distribution.

[3:29:51] Then data center. The other

[3:29:56] thing I would like to see what

[3:29:56] we can do because I've been

[3:29:59] here long enough to know that

[3:30:03] say had a tremendous sinkhole

[3:30:04] we're millions of gallons of

[3:30:06] toxic water was displaced

[3:30:08] aquifers and I don't hear

[3:30:09] about any testing of as well

[3:30:12] consumer heightened concern.

[3:30:14] Florida is has a lot of people

[3:30:18] say is we have neighboring

[3:30:19] toxic wells insights here we

[3:30:21] live in and was unprotected

[3:30:22] where shell so I want to

[3:30:24] recommend that we do some

[3:30:24] testing site asked peace river

[3:30:26] if actually test for and they

[3:30:30] do not you know uses chemicals

[3:30:32] in their in their water one

[3:30:34] thing that I know here the

[3:30:38] city also using herbicides in

[3:30:40] their maintenance decides far

[3:30:40] as I'm concerned toxic some

[3:30:43] people think new year.

[3:30:43] >> they don't stay in the fire

[3:30:49] that wall. I don't believe

[3:30:52] >> I do believe that are frogs

[3:30:53] have to something so I think

[3:30:54] this is a testament worsen we

[3:30:58] have bases. So determine is

[3:30:58] the catalan you know this say

[3:31:04] it. You know other candidates

[3:31:05] that we have a rather out of

[3:31:09] the retesting travels we seem

[3:31:12] to be our drinking water is

[3:31:12] with bleach only use 100 parks

[3:31:16] so. That's the 4 digit

[3:31:21] readings we shouldn't tell

[3:31:22] said

[3:31:26] that you exciting to have to

[3:31:40] as allison was only

[3:31:40] >> my name is joel if you're

[3:31:44] in the city since 20 2020. I

[3:31:45] moved to this quiet

[3:31:45] residential community because

[3:31:47] a quiet residential community.

[3:31:48] Okay and that's why there's a

[3:31:52] lot of us are here. You more

[3:31:52] restaurants, a few more things

[3:31:53] about their car or civil

[3:31:54] partners, but okay here. This

[3:31:56] is not what we moved here for

[3:32:00] you know, speaking, to you.

[3:32:04] Does a disservice. All of it.

[3:32:04] Goes stands up and says no is

[3:32:07] this gentleman right here.

[3:32:08] There's a move afoot to get

[3:32:13] rid of I want I got big mouth,

[3:32:17] I all my life. I see dog and

[3:32:20] pony shows are united with the

[3:32:21] sky was the worst talk about

[3:32:26] other saying. For smart show.

[3:32:26] I want to show people that

[3:32:31] cracked. You MAY be listening

[3:32:33] what got what they were away.

[3:32:38] It's to get rid of all. I

[3:32:44] rested officiate. Strong were

[3:32:47] forget you know, okay. So

[3:32:51] first was going last. Always

[3:32:56] think about what I say.

[3:32:56] Everybody except the 2 ladies

[3:32:58] here people think about I've

[3:33:00] heard good things about you

[3:33:02] MISTER Turner rest of know.

[3:33:17] Have a good evening folks.

[3:33:25] >> thanks love it like do sit

[3:33:28] meetings so about that.

[3:33:29] >> okay the box a little bit

[3:33:33] of some of this. It's

[3:33:33] definitely not to repetitive

[3:33:36] for much cared. Sydney

[3:33:41] thinking about with here.

[3:33:43] Picture mention you know, but

[3:33:48] there wiggle room. Hurricane

[3:33:49] what happened they came

[3:33:49] through charged all of us

[3:33:52] almost double elected fix it.

[3:33:52] Light poles all the damage

[3:33:55] that was causes from that.

[3:33:56] That multibillion dollar

[3:33:59] company lost now they have

[3:34:06] build up with a want the jobs

[3:34:07] that this going create a

[3:34:13] construction said it's not

[3:34:13] going to job growth coming

[3:34:14] down the street on come from

[3:34:17] out of state. It's not in the

[3:34:20] local that's going to be able

[3:34:28] to pay they're going around

[3:34:31] the fight they say they picked

[3:34:32] up right what they can do that

[3:34:34] but it's on the web when they

[3:34:35] won that that lower for us to

[3:34:37] look up to since paying a big

[3:34:44] portion of I think maybe low

[3:34:45] resident staff the paper times

[3:34:46] and everything else on the on

[3:34:48] part many. Something to think

[3:34:55] about. Care. Talking about

[3:34:55] status as a whole lot of this

[3:34:58] information. That's something

[3:34:58] that somebody want to

[3:35:02] something. It's not

[3:35:06] experienced area, the it's

[3:35:07] some a 30 something to some

[3:35:09] point. That's everybody's

[3:35:14] information. Have just try and

[3:35:18] get ready for put put this

[3:35:19] part we lose all that

[3:35:23] information. I wouldn't harris

[3:35:26] to somebody just gone crazy by

[3:35:27] so that's something that we

[3:35:29] need to worry about court

[3:35:35] situation. And just I do.

[3:35:38] About that are about you did

[3:35:42] not.

[3:35:43] >> you make a difference we

[3:35:45] have that nation. That is

[3:35:46] another side note make joke

[3:35:47] that. That's all I have to

[3:35:53] say. Things I think about.

[3:35:54] Appreciate thank thank you

[3:36:08] sir.

[3:36:11] >> opportunity bases, the

[3:36:13] fiscal opportunity, a

[3:36:19] substantial the county a

[3:36:20] generate 13 million dollars

[3:36:21] annually property taxes in

[3:36:22] early years, including

[3:36:26] 4 million dollars in nearly 9%

[3:36:26] of the city's current property

[3:36:28] tax revenue from a single

[3:36:37] project. Development. Data on.

[3:36:44] Police mandate for services

[3:36:45] that's not status should be

[3:36:52] neighborhood in appropriate

[3:36:52] areas. About off eating with

[3:36:53] friends from pay for

[3:37:00] infrastructure. Price you just

[3:37:07] residents quality of life for

[3:37:09] example occupied the about 4%

[3:37:10] commercial parcels about 38%

[3:37:11] of the county's general right

[3:37:19] now according to the serious

[3:37:25] consideration property tax

[3:37:26] much better position moving

[3:37:28] forward giving the city agents

[3:37:33] services. Extremely call

[3:37:45] saying the stand process

[3:37:46] becoming was I discussed

[3:37:50] focused years what is missing

[3:37:51] is just as important as what

[3:37:52] is being present the meeting

[3:37:53] for information about 10 to

[3:38:00] one of past infrastructure

[3:38:06] many those sites schools and

[3:38:11] neighborhoods. Also has

[3:38:12] haitians greater certainty

[3:38:18] before cities for. Cities

[3:38:19] trend toward a system that not

[3:38:20] simply obtain exemptions

[3:38:20] variance different and have

[3:38:28] these tax incentives. That

[3:38:29] should pass this on to

[3:38:30] taxpayers before any decision

[3:38:33] is made I se require and and

[3:38:41] water for them and traffic.

[3:38:42] Structure and for I mean

[3:38:42] people have approved

[3:38:54] conditions seated. The to

[3:38:59] medication project to complete

[3:39:03] actually expected needs to be

[3:39:04] established workshop that was

[3:39:07] on making and possible. We

[3:39:10] deserve to financial

[3:39:12] infrastructure pass before our

[3:39:13] city makes a decision that

[3:39:15] could affect our community for

[3:39:16] PRESIDENT's our schools our

[3:39:17] resources and quality of life

[3:39:30] for jeffrey walsh. That

[3:39:34] official writers to masks

[3:39:36] practice. The senator c 6.

[3:39:42] >> land use. Okay, first term

[3:39:44] and a 100 we're county

[3:39:47] commissioners county for this

[3:39:48] commission has also

[3:39:49] applications for public health

[3:40:00] safety just a safe hush. Are

[3:40:05] essential to the or city

[3:40:17] because when 100% of pocket. I

[3:40:18] mission to formally adopt the

[3:40:20] technical testimony as

[3:40:24] presented by fpl the peace

[3:40:32] river for she was the straw.

[3:40:33] Streams.

[3:40:34] >> straight pleased our last

[3:40:34] slide it cost to the csa

[3:40:40] requires united fan. Zoning up

[3:40:45] 5.86 was detonated until 2002

[3:40:53] workspace to playing minimal

[3:41:00] depositions. I see flag.

[3:41:07] Because to happy to

[3:41:07] >> and especially multiple

[3:41:08] legislative discretion to

[3:41:12] zoning reclassifications my

[3:41:16] hat. 18 moratoria city miami

[3:41:17] beach first and use certifies

[3:41:27] to 0. You sony MAY require an

[3:41:29] uncertain about significant

[3:41:30] amount we started generate and

[3:41:33] how we saw masked and treated.

[3:41:38] >> plans for a 16 inch force

[3:41:40] capable than it's been a and

[3:41:46] too out there that with an

[3:41:47] sportsman will connect to the

[3:41:55] city's existing ways for

[3:41:56] construction. Past the 2.1 and

[3:42:07] gj 0.6 gpa first time since

[3:42:08] official place and stress

[3:42:09] aging treatment system

[3:42:11] potentially challenge it's a

[3:42:12] passed. Appreciate invitation

[3:42:16] of where are all forcing next

[3:42:21] 2 days testing face have seen

[3:42:36] play street and specific

[3:42:36] characteristics of wastewater

[3:42:41] expected and as nation's from

[3:42:42] the city or state for

[3:42:47] protection of public

[3:42:48] resources. The city into and

[3:42:48] it's strong last for man

[3:42:56] associated stansell financial

[3:42:59] several years plan for shot

[3:43:01] given the potential sales.

[3:43:02] Understand this her strategy

[3:43:04] for pass treatment is

[3:43:14] critical. Millions of gallons

[3:43:15] of passed and there and I ask

[3:43:21] a fundamental question.

[3:43:27] Mission hope in the door.

[3:43:35] Michael jackson to yeah

[3:43:46] reality job developments shot

[3:43:51] 6 that's acres apart securing

[3:43:52] it

[3:43:57] >> if this project is in it

[3:44:01] is. Ration of our city is

[3:44:02] safe. The presentation test

[3:44:08] this product is that service

[3:44:13] and structure $592 to media is

[3:44:17] just to support a 15 well

[3:44:20] sony. Simply saw intended a

[3:44:25] message that the structure for

[3:44:26] tangibly improve the daily

[3:44:30] lives are lost ordinary

[3:44:34] homeowners. If cities just

[3:44:47] tyrese and everything we are

[3:44:51] is short long-term master plan

[3:45:02] actually want

[3:45:08] >> live in 2 technology site

[3:45:16] and place fraud to security

[3:45:17] stability, just to follow-up

[3:45:21] questions during tonight's

[3:45:22] presentation. What isis levi

[3:45:28] here he could sure massive

[3:45:28] cost ratings substations

[3:45:32] transformers grade and

[3:45:37] construction. For the safety

[3:45:42] pay passable future goals

[3:45:43] transmission car slaying of a

[3:45:49] new high voltage transmission

[3:45:49] stations out that's too

[3:45:50] strictly through existing

[3:45:58] commercial industrial and for

[3:46:04] instability for some of last

[3:46:07] pass an intent to asked for

[3:46:13] last mission districts the

[3:46:17] >> problem something a on

[3:46:23] court by does to summer g

[3:46:35] infrastructure same they

[3:46:58] specifically it and dry. 455

[3:47:00] species out of shelters

[3:47:01] because of 20% they generate

[3:47:12] can see. In a new ordinance

[3:47:19] smith show have racial

[3:47:27] motivations all and old $5 to

[3:47:32] maintain to prevent to

[3:47:36] something forecast calls to

[3:47:38] the of rest just not. There

[3:47:45] are them systems and they

[3:47:51] completely decisions made in

[3:47:52] protection but only we asked

[3:47:57] our before first shell that

[3:48:00] path. Comprehensive a few now

[3:48:04] sure that future technology in

[3:48:06] our city does not mean this

[3:48:07] have thank you for your and

[3:48:16] that's

[3:48:22] >> speaking.

[3:48:24] >> that's the same job.

[3:48:25] >> we're never doing the same

[3:48:26] thing. Lot of its funding

[3:48:30] construction. Grabbing a

[3:48:31] shovel in on a piece equipment

[3:48:34] it. It always always you keep

[3:48:37] that they

[3:48:38] >> thank you for joining me

[3:48:40] today on the job here but

City Commission Workshop on 2026-09-03 6:00 PM - Data Center Amended to add presentation attachment to Item No. 26-1098.

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