[0:00] Okay, we'll call this the order, 432D, March 24th, we're in Fairview for our ordinance, I'd like to welcome

[0:09] our one in out, invocation. Mike, will you say that for us?

[0:13] Yeah, our

[0:17] father in heaven, we're so thankful to live in such a wonderful place. We're grateful

[0:22] for the surroundings, for the community, the good people around us. We're grateful at this

[0:27] time to meet regarding the police force we're so thankful for the officers and pray for

[0:34] each of them that they all may be safe and be able to carry out their duties with confidence

[0:40] and courage and we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ in them.

[0:43] Amen.

[0:44] Thank you.

[0:46] But do all our minutes from our February 25th, 26th of the year, and we ain't

[0:54] anybody noticed, we need to change, does

[1:09] anybody want to make motion to accept those

[1:12] minutes?

[1:13] Yeah, motion.

[1:14] Six, seven minutes.

[1:15] Three.

[1:19] Daniel's still trying to read it down.

[1:20] I want to read it down.

[1:21] I'll give the seconds.

[1:22] Okay.

[1:23] Get motion by mic, second by Daniel.

[1:25] All those in favor.

[1:26] And you're closed, double-dipping on my time here, trying to get my key back, I understand.

[1:34] Alright, we're going to go back now to staff officers, which is our police chief.

[1:43] It's going to be a real nice scene services contract.

[1:47] Awesome. And that green services.

[1:50] We'll talk about fat and green, it's a little bit different entity, and then get some ideas here.

[1:55] So Maroni, as you guys were aware last time, they approached Brad and I. We went into a meeting with them,

[2:03] discussed services with Maroni that I believe that was our second meeting that we had with Maroni.

[2:09] Since that time, they have got really serious about services with us to the fact that I'm not going

[2:19] rely were pretty much there. So we had another meeting with them. We did so we had so we did do a

[2:28] two and a half hour board meeting with or not board meeting a work meeting which we discuss

[2:34] services and answered questions regarding contracts and stuff with them. When we got done with that

[2:41] we held the city council meeting. Our attorney drew up this interlocal agreement.

[2:46] R's drew it up. Their attorney made a couple changes to it, but it wasn't anything significant.

[2:52] We'll go into those changes in a second. The one that R attorney drew up is attached to

[2:56] your packet, and the one that Steve handed out separately is the one that they made small changes to,

[3:02] and yes, signed. And I'll go over the differences here in a second. But a couple things that we'll

[3:09] talk about during this interlocal agreement. So you guys are aware, this is an interlocal agreement

[3:14] between Maroni and North Valley Police Department, this does not make them board members.

[3:21] So they will not have a spot on the board.

[3:24] This is basically them just contracting with our police department for services in their city.

[3:30] So Troy was going to be here tonight or today, it doesn't look like he showed up.

[3:34] But he can come, they can participate in the board meeting, obviously they just don't have a vote.

[3:39] Now they are on a plan that we've talked to for three years basically.

[3:43] We haven't really discussed that plan, but they're aware in three years that they're trying to get to the point that they will be a board member

[3:50] There was that was it take to get so that's up to you guys. Honestly, Brad basically said when they get to the bout close to the same money wise

[3:59] Per resident is what they would kind of establish I think yeah, I think the

[4:05] Sorry, no, you're fine. I think the best course of action

[4:08] And this is how most other like combined police forces do is they establish a

[4:13] per resident rate for services and then at the point and so we would need to do

[4:18] that and then once they meet that funding then they'd be a part of that.

[4:23] Yeah, and then we would decide on that would be your guys' decision to decide on if you

[4:28] want to expand the board to seven numbers at that time or if you want to keep it

[4:32] five and get one of them, get one of them somehow in there or whatever the case is, or whatever

[4:39] you guys want to do. That would be an expansion of there. They do understand that and they

[4:43] are very aware that if we can continue the way we are, if they want those kind of services

[4:49] or we can start to go towards the board direction, it does sound like they want to do the board

[4:54] direction eventually. They're very aware that their budget hasn't been where it needs to be and

[4:58] they need to make it for. Other than the cost, what's the difference between as far

[5:04] as services and stuff? Really the services it's going to be. So what they're paying for

[5:09] is going to be different. Like so, I'm sorry, what they're paying for is going to be different.

[5:15] They're not going to get the coverage that Fairview has. They're not going to get the coverage

[5:19] that Mount Pleasant has. We're going to try to give them more coverage than they were getting

[5:23] with the sheriff's office under their contract. But it's not even going to be remotely close

[5:28] to what Fairview has we we estimated about and and this is the funny thing because we've

[5:32] talked to you we've talked to Brad as well and I'm like do you guys even check hours like no

[5:38] we know you're there like that's the goal for them too is that they don't worry about hours

[5:42] and they know we're there but in reality they're going to be significantly less nice the first

[5:48] time I've seen our officers back to their old hiding places where they back last night

[5:53] work last night. I know who it was.

[5:59] So those are, yeah, those are kind of what we'll go through.

[6:04] And so they'll be different services for different things and they're aware of that.

[6:08] Yeah. So really, honestly, we will be with this contract,

[6:12] we will hire one officer for basically to service that over there,

[6:17] but we'll fill in with other officers from their site.

[6:19] So so still real taking them right. So is it a more of a one dedicated guy there? It won't be dedicated. So the idea that I'm

[6:29] What I'm saying is like if it's Drake, he's not going to be assigned room. No, that's his gig for no, okay. No, that's what I wanted. It's not. Yeah, it won't be

[6:36] Dedicated to the so I'm not gonna lie. So that's kind of that's kind of what they brought up right in the meeting. They actually brought up and

[6:45] They're like, so will you get us somebody that we can deal with?

[6:48] And I said, the thing about it is you won't deal with the officer.

[6:51] You'll deal with me and you'll deal with Lauren.

[6:53] Where are your contacts?

[6:54] So like, if there's a problem, you'll deal with us and we'll take care of the problem.

[6:58] And they're like, okay, I said, and the county's only been giving them five hours a day.

[7:02] Yeah, five hours a day is what the big news for.

[7:04] Yeah, it is what we're going to.

[7:06] Well, there's not actually an hour set.

[7:09] So they brought in this was written by their, so that was written by their attorney.

[7:15] Yeah, that was written by their attorney and we brought it up and they're fine with that being in there

[7:21] But I brought up it would probably be more more almost double that more in my clone

[7:27] You guys work it you can you do fourth-year line two different cities the same I know

[7:33] So it is it's gonna be a little bit different

[7:35] But I do have some plans. So you're wearing we'll talk about those plan for a second

[7:39] If you've got to support the gun, it's like you promised we could just get there.

[7:43] They're coming.

[7:44] I promise.

[7:45] They're coming.

[7:46] I did say guns.

[7:48] Yeah.

[7:49] I want to see what happens.

[7:49] You've got to start with badges, but there might be guns involved.

[7:52] There could be guns, but they're rubber bullets.

[7:54] Yeah.

[7:54] So they're looks real.

[7:56] Yeah.

[7:56] So there are some things.

[7:58] One thing that I'll give you to real quick on the contract.

[8:02] So this was added by their attorney.

[8:07] This changed things very quickly for us. I'm not going to say whether it was Maroni that

[8:13] decided to do this or whether it was the sheriff or it was a mutual agreement. But the

[8:19] sheriff found out about the 5-0 vote actually before the 5-0 vote and the sheriff decided

[8:24] to discontinue services with them as a March 31st.

[8:30] So that's the best way to do it so we will be well I mean I can see that

[8:34] Yeah, I know so April 1st will be the day in which if I

[8:41] I take on that because they're contracts at 90 days and they decided did not hold

[8:47] that 90 days and you get the fire jumping at both feet and that's kind of

[8:52] So I kind of and I talked to Mike and I talked to Brad a little bit about this

[8:57] and I'll take the punishment if you guys want to give it, but their budget allowed for them to pay

[9:03] the share of his wage this quarter. Does that make sense there payment? Their budget was not

[9:11] to pay the increase for us, that budget. So I told them obviously it'll give us some time,

[9:18] but we will take their calls. We just won't be able to provide honor for some of the service

[9:22] that we would give them as a July first, but they did agree to pay that portion of the

[9:29] share of to us for that first three months. So it's about $5,000 less or just the first

[9:35] quarter, the first quarter of the year. So it's about $5,000 less, obviously we are not

[9:41] staff to do it so we will be filling in over there. The best we can for that $32,000.

[9:52] So I

[9:52] Yeah, I know because I remember I like rode every single day. Yeah, I see cops there never never card or yeah lights are what matters

[10:00] And I promise you they'll see a different world. I mean Steve's talk to say those you got to send two police officers over there

[10:08] Put one and the normal spot on state street, but when I'm on deck springs

[10:13] You'll have a mail through the direction because oh, I've gone past yeah, I can fly now

[10:17] There's another one there else coming in to town. It's like, oh, exactly. Oh, there's another one

[10:23] And that's the thing and I'm we're very aware. It'll be it'll be lights galore there for a while

[10:30] So they'll find we're gonna know our stuff down. It'll be fun to see. Yeah

[10:35] So their period will start April 1st with the payment of 32,500

[10:39] That's what they would have made of this year off. They're after starting July 1st

[10:44] It will, the contract will be 180,000 per year.

[10:50] However, the first year we bought their police truck at 30,000.

[10:54] So you're aware, we're already in possession of that truck

[10:56] and it's getting equipped right now.

[11:00] Yeah.

[11:00] So it's already in our possession of that there.

[11:03] Did they have all the equipment then like they said?

[11:06] It's a mess.

[11:08] And they do, I think, have the equipment

[11:11] but they ripped it out extremely fast and I'm not going to lie, it's a mess.

[11:18] So it's up there, the guy is very aware of how to put it back together.

[11:22] The question is what can he salvage, what can he not.

[11:25] I anticipate hitting it, I'm not going to lie, being about $5,000.

[11:29] The question or the call that I did get right after we picked up the truck was from their recorder who said,

[11:35] we know it's a mess, we're willing to pay.

[11:38] So that's something that we can work out as it comes if it's like substantial, right?

[11:43] I mean, if it's something, what's out?

[11:44] The stuff is actually 2021.

[11:47] So it's not a bad trouble.

[11:50] It's the same.

[11:52] It was bought at the same time.

[11:54] Because I came from an area where we could do a career with the same equipment.

[11:58] Because he would just keep stripping it down with the next car.

[12:00] So this has got our role to take stuff out.

[12:03] They were going to sell it.

[12:04] And so they had public works guys going, no, they just cut and pulled.

[12:09] That's what they did.

[12:10] Yeah, Paul was going to sell it and they just ripped the stuff out and then threw it

[12:14] in the corner.

[12:15] So we've got a lot of stuff not going to lie.

[12:18] I don't know how many radars we found, but there was so many radars that we don't even know

[12:22] which one went to the truck, but it was like horrible.

[12:24] We took them all.

[12:25] So it was like we did take them all.

[12:27] So there's some stuff that will work out that way and some stuff there.

[12:31] Now there is some things that we, sorry, let's go on this, so it will be 180,

[12:36] 180,000 starting then and it will continue to be 180,000 moving forward until

[12:42] we decide that it's going to move towards that board spot and

[12:46] it's going to get cost for the increase.

[12:49] That's what we do in the board every year.

[12:52] We did tell them that we would have to raise to whatever the cost.

[12:55] So we talked about like raises this year, right, for officers.

[12:59] Now they're not going to deal with that this year, but as the race comes up this year, depending

[13:05] on what the cities do, if you guys give 4% to your employees, or you guys give 3, we'll

[13:10] balance where it is, come to you guys and say we need 3.5% and then the cities, the cost

[13:16] for the wages will go up probably 3.5% just on that portion.

[13:20] They're aware that they're not going to be locked in 180.

[13:23] Oh, I got drilled in.

[13:24] I promise you that.

[13:25] that right? Yeah it was in there and they said so it's 180 I mean how do we know

[13:30] it's not just gonna keep going up? I'm like it's gonna keep going up until you

[13:36] guys like you want to be on the board or it's gonna go up until inflation stops

[13:39] or whatever happens. Yeah exactly yeah then we change it but they they understood

[13:47] that and I think that was just some questions that came at the last second by an

[13:51] an outside source that was not there, but had some, say, the last second.

[13:56] Well, Troy defended that really well too.

[13:58] He did. Yeah.

[13:59] The City Council, he did.

[14:01] So they, I'm not going to lie, they're all in.

[14:04] It was a 5-0 vote, I don't really even think it was close.

[14:08] This contract will be in effect the same as the other contracts.

[14:14] Like I said, it's just a different thing.

[14:15] They are required to give six months prior to the new fiscal year to opt out just like the other cities are

[14:23] So in other words if they don't see things coming their way, they have to opt out before January 1st, 2027

[14:32] Let us know and then it would go to January 20, or sorry, so that doesn't give us a year and they're very aware of that

[14:44] But, like I said, I don't see there being any issues at all.

[14:49] Any concerns that you guys see that way?

[14:52] If you want to talk about the way I see kind of some things going, we can talk about that,

[14:58] or if you guys are good with...

[15:00] The contract, we can do that now. I have a question. I do have a question because I do have something like I'll go over and I think that relies into the fountain green stuff next. So ask a question on the contract. No, it's not on the. It's on the buildings of I'm just curious is with. I don't want to be hard feelings with the county, which they're probably going to be at some point. Are you guys ever going to have to worry about running dispatch or running something for your guy?

[15:30] great question because this is coming up because it's already at the point of

[15:38] break and I will we'll discuss that I promise yeah yeah if we're good with the

[15:44] contract I'll turn it back to you go ahead and talk about fat and green

[15:48] that you want to do that or should we prove this okay any other concerns on the

[15:55] I mean it matches up with what you've already said I read through it. Yeah, it looks great.

[16:00] Yeah, minor adjustments. Yeah, but they may. Yeah, the court is everything goes through.

[16:07] Go steal through Marona. They have their own. They have their own. They have their own steal.

[16:10] They actually, if people please not guilty here in the mew of the prosecutor, they go to Marona anyway.

[16:15] So it's actually hand because they have to bail it there.

[16:18] It was only getting one three thousand. Yeah, I might be wrong. Yeah, no, it's very long.

[16:22] to public here you know what I'm saying but I think it was only 3,000 dollars with fines they were

[16:27] using. Yeah it was very low. Three or 4,000 dollars in the last few days. They have their still

[16:33] fareb約. I remember there was a time group where they were trying to get rid of some of the

[16:36] goods. Yeah. So I know that's good. The board don't want to merge them but really it's kind of

[16:43] like they'd have to figure out a way to fareb約. It gets their money for their cords. Now

[16:47] pleasant gets their money for their cords. Which I think is easy if it's a fareb約. I think it's

[16:52] I just think it's, I'll be straight with it.

[16:56] The court wants it, but they don't want paid less.

[16:59] So they want to keep the courts, and they want the same money to then meet one time.

[17:03] And I think that's where you're a problem.

[17:05] Damn near impossible to put them back in place once you get rid of them.

[17:07] I've heard that too.

[17:08] Yeah.

[17:09] But I think your court would be, in my opinion, I think your court would still be functioning.

[17:13] I think it'd still be Fairview Justice Court.

[17:15] It would just be held at a different location.

[17:17] And they, they've done that for court.

[17:19] They do it right now, Marona.

[17:20] That's the core.

[17:21] Remember like fountain green people.

[17:22] Yeah.

[17:22] We don't have to bail it from Mount Pleasant.

[17:24] Like fountain green people coming over for a pre-trial.

[17:26] Oh yeah.

[17:26] That's where Mr. Urchad Woully was at the time when he was running.

[17:30] And that's basically what they do right now.

[17:31] So Wes does not ever come to Fairview.

[17:35] Wes goes to Maroni.

[17:36] And all the cases from Fairview Maroni and fountain green go to Maroni.

[17:41] But the court's like Tammy and McKiff have wanted us to start going over there just on our own

[17:46] as bailiffs because the county won't for five years.

[17:51] So yeah, there's some, there's some things that

[17:53] Let me figure it out. Yeah. All right, sorry to just do

[17:57] Do you really know what you're doing?

[17:59] So somebody want to make motions except the

[18:01] Interol code agreement with Moroni City.

[18:04] I think it's only you and I they can do that.

[18:06] So I'll make a motion on this.

[18:09] Motion by Daniel?

[18:10] Say turns by by.

[18:12] Okay, just put a little heat on you when you're the only guy.

[18:15] I guess just having money involved.

[18:17] We have to do a rule called Nathan.

[18:20] Okay. Mayor Michelson. Yes.

[18:22] Mike Rick. Yes.

[18:24] Daniel Mauer. Yes.

[18:26] You don't want to say here.

[18:27] Fantastic.

[18:30] We should have done a roll call at first.

[18:33] That's probably something we have to

[18:35] next time.

[18:35] Oh yeah. So you just heard like that.

[18:37] By the call to order.

[18:39] Yeah.

[18:40] And you've got a copy of it.

[18:45] So before we're done we'll get a signature

[18:47] from you and Nathan and Santa. Okay. Okay. Foundry. There is not. This is a discussion about

[18:55] Fountain Green. So why we were in Maroni getting a five zero vote. Fountain Green had it on their

[19:04] agenda to approve us taking over services as well, which we did not know. They did it on their own.

[19:14] They did. They had the wrong name on there, but they put on their service contract with

[19:20] North Sand Pete Police, which is us apparently. So, you guys are aware, we met with them.

[19:27] We initially gave them a price of 125 to 130 different coverage as well as what this

[19:34] is, or what we're doing with Merona. Different coverage than what Merona is. They wouldn't be

[19:40] getting the same service, they would be getting less hours,

[19:44] that kind of stuff, to do kind of the same thing,

[19:46] but it would be less patrol in their city.

[19:50] Now, when we talked about that and had that discussion,

[19:53] obviously we talked about that last time

[19:55] what was said and some things,

[19:57] and we'd never heard a word from the mayor

[20:00] in any shape or form for an entire month, I believe,

[20:05] and then all of a sudden we're on the agenda.

[20:07] We've got approved to basically get a contract with us, so yeah, so we heard, we heard

[20:20] through the fire chief, didn't even hear through the mayor, heard through the fire chief

[20:26] that apparently we're doing services over there, and then the sheriff called me, like five

[20:31] minutes after I heard from the fire chief, and asked me if we were taking found room two.

[20:35] And I said it wasn't even aware of it. He told me we were on the agenda and they passed and that that that that

[20:41] So I informed the sheriff exactly where we were we have not heard and he said well

[20:46] They're probably gonna be reaching out for a contract. Well, they did yesterday

[20:51] So he wanted a contract that they could vote on by the middle of

[20:57] April

[20:58] Is what he wanted still not set to a price?

[21:02] haven't really done anything that way, haven't discussed services or anything with

[21:06] them. So I suggested why don't we do the exact same thing that we did with

[21:10] Moroni? Well, now I provide a proposal together, give it to you. So you have the

[21:15] proposal, once the proposal is in place, let's set a work meeting, let's go to

[21:19] the work meeting, your questions can come out, we can discuss it and that at

[21:23] that time, if they're interested, we can do a local agreement and get it by. And I

[21:28] think we have time to do that. How? My big concern is how much burden that's going to be for you.

[21:34] So that's where we're going. So here's where we're at. There are some good and there are some bad

[21:42] with Fountain Green and some of it goes along with Marona and some of it doesn't. So they are less

[21:51] than we have done the figures and we believe we can bring somebody on specifically

[21:56] We four fountain green with the money that they provide a full-time officer.

[22:01] It's within that budget, but it is not within the budget to buy a vehicle.

[22:07] So it does not give us enough to buy an vehicle and an officer, and they don't.

[22:12] My biggest concern is, is when we go down to one or two officers, and if it happens to be

[22:19] that they're both in Fairview and something happens in fountain green, that's a long-freaking

[22:24] ways to get you guys around. It is. So this is where this is where ultimately well it's a great

[22:33] question. Let's talk about it. So when we started this Logan kind of oversees patrol right I mean

[22:42] I see a lot of it but he oversees patrol and the and the that kind of stuff. So I asked Logan I said

[22:48] when we when we started this do we feel like we can take Moroni with one guy

[22:53] And the answer is it's not enough. It's just not. I mean, even when you were there, they need to.

[23:00] They just don't have the funding to put to you right now.

[23:02] So, they need to work towards the two eventually, but right now it's one, right?

[23:07] So, we know going into this that we're going to have to pull resources. There's no doubt about it, right?

[23:12] And as we discussed it, we have to discuss, and we have to look at all probabilities out there for the future.

[23:19] One of the probabilities is, what does the sheriff's office do, right?

[23:24] And what do they do?

[23:25] Which is even at the moment, I think they're probably not good enough.

[23:28] So that's where we're looking.

[23:31] Yes.

[23:31] And force them to handle their count.

[23:33] And that's exactly right.

[23:34] So you're looking at a situation in which we have known for quite a while that they

[23:39] and it's not to place blame on anything.

[23:42] I might even be doing the same if I was in their opposition.

[23:46] But it has to look at, they have fulfilled contracts with officers.

[23:51] So they patrol the areas in which they're contracted.

[23:55] When those contractors are gone, what are they going to patrol?

[23:59] They have to respond to calls, but what are they patrol?

[24:02] And the question is, if Fountain Green takes, if we take Fountain Green,

[24:07] there's no contract up here.

[24:09] So that means, do they patrol where their contracts are in Mentai?

[24:15] or do they send somebody up here in the areas in which they haven't patrolled.

[24:20] And my gut is telling me that it's going to be that way.

[24:24] So that means like the unincorporated areas in the north of like that,

[24:28] they have not patrolled those areas.

[24:30] But they respond to calls.

[24:33] I've been the only couple on the over and over in the last five years.

[24:35] Yeah, I've figured that out.

[24:36] So you know that.

[24:37] So what's the, what's the, I mean, so they're getting just kind of, it's not coming.

[24:44] That's kind of how, sir, my concern is that they're going to be in the South, and then

[24:50] when a call comes up, they're coming up here, because they have to take them.

[24:54] But I don't, my concern is not that they're going to be up here.

[24:57] So what does that do for us?

[24:59] Well right now, we're running one officer on a night shift, and we rely on the backup

[25:04] of the county.

[25:05] so as you can imagine one officer and one county deputy up here. Now that is

[25:10] exactly your concern is exactly what we're dealing with right now because it's

[25:15] something big pops off in Fairview right that requires both officers to be

[25:22] out here okay and then something pops off and found green even though it's the

[25:27] county's responsibility now the county's got a cut here or they got to call

[25:32] people out at home to come to this right depending on how big it is. But if they cut here you're

[25:38] leaving one and one right or you got to call people out. I think we have if has we have discussed

[25:47] if the county leaves a person in the north we're better. If they don't leave one in the new schedule

[25:53] that we put together we'll put one and another out at all times. So it won't be any different than what

[26:02] But we are relying on the county right now, but it will be us.

[26:06] So you would have two officers 24-7 out at all times.

[26:11] Now, to do that, this is where it's good and bad.

[26:15] To do that, it does take away from our admin.

[26:18] Our admin will be working shifts, which takes away

[26:22] from some admin responsibilities or some admin times.

[26:25] The good thing that we have worked out is, so for an example,

[26:29] I would take two shifts.

[26:30] Logan would take two shifts.

[26:31] Gary is the next one on he would take two shifts as well and that leads six shifts and we would put ourselves on

[26:38] Day shifts so we're out where we can do some of the admin responsibilities as well.

[26:43] So you'd be almost a double-do on the right-hand side of being out of control?

[26:47] Yeah and the good thing is is there's more officers in the county during those day shifts there's more officers around and

[26:53] I would patrols in the area. Exactly and we can cover those hours more with us too because

[27:00] unfortunately like if I'm working Monday and Tuesday Logan's probably gonna

[27:04] take off Monday but on Tuesday he's probably gonna be working admin stuff

[27:08] where I'm working day shift. What's the admin stuff? So it's stuff like

[27:12] scheduling there's a lot of stuff that comes into the office that we have to

[27:17] deal with there's unfortunately yeah there's honestly a lot so it's

[27:26] Surprising the more tickets you write the more complaints you get is there is there a need or reason to hire

[27:34] So no, I mean so I think we're good

[27:38] Obviously the more what I would say so with Logan being the deputy chief that has absolutely been a huge

[27:45] Really fought me because it was just me before doing all that stuff now Logan can come in

[27:51] I can kick him half the stuff and I deal with the other half right and there is a lot of fires that need put out

[27:56] that you don't really see, and my job is hopefully good enough that you guys don't get your complaints

[28:01] on the other side that I handle those with them, occasionally it does go to you and you have

[28:06] to deal with it pretty easily, but mostly the time we try to cut those down so they're

[28:12] just there, and we do, we get officer complaints, it's significantly gone up, but that's because

[28:18] we're significantly doing more, so there are stuff like that that come in and that's what

[28:24] the Admin stuff does, I'm not going to lie, cops are whiny.

[28:29] You know that.

[28:30] You were one of the worst ones.

[28:32] Oh, I'm just kidding.

[28:35] But cops are little whiny, so we have to deal with some

[28:38] of that stuff, and we'll get to that in a sec.

[28:41] You're going to have that stuff.

[28:42] Internal admin stuff.

[28:44] Yeah, talking to some people and getting some stuff done.

[28:47] Grants that we keep track of, and there's a lot of stuff.

[28:51] So, I think we can still handle that, and why I mean by that is, two of my days would

[28:56] be patrol, two of them would be admin during the week, right, which I can still help out

[29:01] on the days that were patrol. Two of his days would be patrol, two of them would be admin

[29:06] on different days. Gary, two of them would be patrol, but two of them would be investigations.

[29:11] Now if Gary gets overloaded, that relies on me and him to pick his stuff up.

[29:16] So, you know, in one way, and I'm going to flip this again.

[29:19] Maybe I'm wrong, Danny.

[29:20] You correct me, but it's like, if I was the officer and seeing you guys out patrol,

[29:25] it does something for me as an officer to say, hey, my bosses are out doing the same thing

[29:29] I'm doing, and they're not kicked back all the time.

[29:31] Not going to lie.

[29:32] So it does put a perspective on that.

[29:35] When your chief comes out and makes three or four stops, you're like, oh my gosh, I didn't

[29:40] make it too.

[29:41] And they get on top of things a little bit.

[29:43] So there is there is some of that stuff that that does health and it motivates right night

[29:49] I've always said it if I'm not willing to do it. I don't expect my guys to do it

[29:52] So I need to be out there doing it a little bit too

[29:55] So I do think that helps a little bit day shift is where that's got to be

[30:00] Because if it's night shift, we, I mean, you can imagine, work a six, you work a six, eight, two days ago. Yeah. I worked out what, like one. Yeah. And carry, called me at eight. I told her, don't call Steve. He just wrote a graveyard. She sent him a text at nine. I was up at nine. And we were over and found green shortly after. But anyway, so it's one of those things. Now, what does fountain green do for us? Fountain greens call volume is extremely lower than anywhere else.

[30:29] It is by far the lowest in the county. It's lower in spring city. It's lower than

[30:35] That's amazing. It is. It's low. I don't know why

[30:38] But it is low now

[30:41] Do you know why?

[30:43] So I started in Foundry, my first job. Okay, I worked four years in Foundry and

[30:48] It wasn't always that way, right

[30:51] So it depends on my view. I believe it depends on the price of metal

[30:56] It depends on the volume of methane

[30:58] and fed him in this, so what you think is a calm place can turn up sight down in a month.

[31:06] Now, depending on who moves in, I remember three burglaries a night.

[31:10] Oh yeah, it was non-stop nights.

[31:12] Now one other time you'd go a whole month without hearing calls from him.

[31:16] Now one thing I will tell you is that I worked in Moroni.

[31:21] Moroni was very calm before I got there.

[31:24] I got there, it was absolutely insane.

[31:28] And then when I left Bob Hill came in, it was a little insane then too

[31:32] And then the sheriff's office took over and it's been more calm

[31:37] Now

[31:38] You think that that would be like well, so you would think that that would be because things get knocked down

[31:46] I think it's the opposite. I think it's because the citizens feel like they can't call so they don't call

[31:52] They'll come kind of think yeah, so they don't call they see a crisis so when they see a presence and they see officers

[31:58] There they feel like they have the support and they just the other night

[32:01] I got called in a minute section at 930 because he saw me drive by yeah, that's like got you so I do think that a 930 fountain green has

[32:09] Not been that way since you've been there so it's been low. There is a possibility that it increases now

[32:15] We are yes, so we anticipate that so

[32:19] right now they are low but they are going to be one of the biggest traffic things

[32:26] right now there because there hasn't been a lot of traffic enforcement and

[32:30] from what I see there's a lot of stuff there. So you are going to be proactively

[32:35] more in fountain green. You can't go to the fountain green. You can't.

[32:43] So the officers wise over there, it's going to be a little bit different kind of patrol

[32:48] probably, right?

[32:49] More proactive.

[32:51] With that said, what do they do for us?

[32:54] Well, with that new full-time position that they provide, it takes away the six shifts that

[33:02] be added.

[33:04] So it would take out four of those six.

[33:07] So you'd have two new officers with these.

[33:09] We would have two new officers with both with understanding that in progressing we're going to get even another one.

[33:15] Which honestly, if there's two, like me and you can still do it and if Tidwell is free, then he can swap us if he needs to.

[33:22] But if he gets swamped, I don't want that to get neglected too.

[33:26] Unless the other thing too, you guys think we're picking up two cities.

[33:29] That's the new increased history.

[33:30] And it will. It's streaky. It's all the sudden. He's got a bell knocked out and then he's got. And when he gets overwhelmed,

[33:38] not gonna lie, when he gets overwhelmed, he gets overwhelmed. So like it all comes in at once.

[33:44] The only good thing that I will tell you is that we have three detectives, really. I mean, we've all done it. We just have to pick up the loads,

[33:51] which we haven't done. And so Tidwell's kind of been doing it. We'll pick up that load. So I think we can make it work.

[33:57] the fountain green is intriguing because it allows us to then free ourselves up

[34:04] again with two out at all time. Now is the fountain green rate just based on

[34:10] per citizen? No. So it's a different it's all three are completely different

[34:17] right? They're probably closer to the per citizen than we're only is. No, they're

[34:21] opposite. They are lower. They are the lowest. They have the most more population.

[34:26] They have, because of the new census, which was 1,300, they're almost where Fairview is,

[34:31] but they are paying significantly less than Fairview.

[34:35] So that's where obviously they don't get the service that Fairview gets.

[34:39] On the other side of that, theirs is based on the contract in which this year's office

[34:45] has.

[34:46] We went a little more than what they have, and providing a little more service.

[34:51] I think you get, I think it's just to do what you're saying.

[34:53] and I think it's good to go to meet with them and work with you, man.

[34:56] I think so and kind of work it out.

[34:58] Now the proposal, they're in put a little bit, too.

[35:00] And maybe they don't want it.

[35:02] The proposal I gave them was along the same lines

[35:04] that we originally verbally quoted them.

[35:08] I made it to 130.

[35:10] It was the high end.

[35:11] So they're paying 125 now.

[35:12] It'd be 130, 5,000 more.

[35:15] Increase in gas price.

[35:17] Yeah.

[35:17] What do you got?

[35:18] Travel time over there.

[35:19] Well, that's part of it.

[35:20] So with it said how I feel like we would do it right now is during the what we have right now we have one officer on that roams between the two cities right and then at night we roam between the two cities we try to give each one more when the admin comes on or we have a swing shift we rotate each to the two cities right and and I'm not going to lie if he saw us on Sunday it was it was original so I'll just look forward to it.

[35:50] It was like my gosh, I mean we and Drake kind of just drove around because it was kind of like they we can't stop

[35:54] Anything because there was five of us out and it was it was covering state funded

[35:59] She is and stuff and I was like my gosh, I can't even go. There's two in Fairview right now

[36:04] There's two in my pleasant. We're just gonna roll around and drive

[36:07] You heard me and Tidwell and look oh, it was yeah, there was no competing

[36:11] It was like our citizens would have felt absolutely picked on because you guys were stopping the same cars

[36:17] just when he in here, and then they went there and he stopped saying, oh, it was a steady stuff.

[36:24] It was like, we've been full over. We're good.

[36:28] Oh, yeah, it was like, it was rough.

[36:32] Somebody, having forbid somebody driving through with a tail like that night out.

[36:37] So it was like sometimes these state punishes hurt or not hurt, but like, it's over.

[36:45] It's a lot off I've not had any citizens though when I've told him kind of what the deal is yeah

[36:50] They don't have like they're not mad, you know what I mean drunk or have met and yeah, they're probably gonna be mad

[36:58] Exactly right so what what I think that would change is that

[37:04] Because of the two-out you're this

[37:08] And one this way and one this way right now

[37:12] your two cities basically we're not going to let that service do it so we're

[37:16] talking about one shift this way and then yes now the interesting thing about it

[37:23] is that no time we can't have this and this too far away right so we got to

[37:30] have this yeah it is a lot of planning we have to have this or we have to have

[37:35] this or we have to have this or this so it's going to be a lot of

[37:40] communication, and how many hours do you do one day?

[37:42] I wish he hadn't served over here for a while.

[37:45] Well, so if you did this, the only problem with this

[37:48] is if this one calls for hell.

[37:49] Which is time when I had to look at this.

[37:52] About 20 minutes, right, faster if you're here.

[37:54] Faster, probably 15 code.

[37:56] What is it from to get to Manta?

[37:59] Well, I'm not going to lie.

[38:00] You know, you're right.

[38:02] I've got to Manta 15 before.

[38:03] Yeah.

[38:04] I'm not saying it's not any different than this time of year.

[38:05] It's not any Manta.

[38:06] It's not, sorry.

[38:08] It is not any different.

[38:09] You're right.

[38:10] And was you coding it to the temple this morning?

[38:12] Probably was.

[38:14] It is not any different.

[38:15] Don't show it anywhere.

[38:17] The only concern that I have it all is for our officers, right?

[38:22] I mean, the call, I get it, if it's in progress, we get there, and we get there as fast as

[38:29] we can.

[38:30] They change the standards on code, right?

[38:32] They did.

[38:33] Yeah.

[38:33] So as long as you stay within the standards that have been implemented.

[38:36] Then you're good.

[38:37] Yep.

[38:37] That's what I was going to say, that's my concern too, is the response of having one officer show up for, again, 20 minutes, either direction, it's like that is a long time to be on your own at times, and that is, that is the worst, but I think we can alleviate that was some of this.

[38:53] The other night when Steve was working on that graveyard, the county deputy was up here, his computer took a crap, so he had to go clear the jail to do reports.

[39:00] That is true.

[39:00] So Steve's back up was in Mantae and we knew that and it's not just and let me

[39:06] That's probably more often than we know. All right y'all ended all the time

[39:09] Yeah, it was a let me let me just throw this out on the other side

[39:15] With our back up being that here's the scary thing. It's not just us

[39:20] Because if it's a life threatening call in San Indi Nola, we're going

[39:24] So you're going to Indian Ola and you're holding it tell they come from Mantae

[39:30] Right.

[39:30] And so that's a significantly long time to be holding out there or a thing till they

[39:35] get there.

[39:37] This, for us, I feel like the most safest thing we can do for our officers, like we talked

[39:43] about it.

[39:43] Can we go on call?

[39:45] Can we put one working from two until six, only one out for three cities without found

[39:52] green, only one there, but putting one on call?

[39:55] and the answer is it's not the call necessarily because the officer can get

[40:01] there within 15 minutes and I do believe they'll still get there on the call.

[40:05] It's the backup. And if we do that and the Sheriff's and Mantae, our closest

[40:10] is getting called out from home. And I feel better about somebody running code

[40:15] worst-case scenario from Mount Pleasant to Fountain Green, right, and back in our

[40:20] officer than the other side. How's the how's the relationship with Colby and

[40:24] Ephraim? Is there anything there? No. No, it's good. Colby is good. So Colby

[40:29] sends his people. So so you're aware this is this is where we have this the

[40:34] other day with Trevor. Sorry and I'm probably keeping you guys but we have this

[40:39] with Trevor the other day. Trevor got in a 1080 which is a high-speed chase at

[40:44] 430 in the morning. County was not on. They had checked off. They checked off at

[40:48] for. 4.30 in the morning, worst case scenario in Mount Pleasant, and he was out, and the

[40:54] scary thing is, because you've been a cop. The car pulled up, let three people out of

[41:00] the car. So that's your worst nightmare. You've got people in the car, you've got people

[41:04] out of the car, and then here's another worst case scenario for you. The car went a block

[41:08] and stopped. So now, you've got to worry about that.

[41:12] You've got to get that boost, that's the room that we're up here, and he had three in

[41:15] car here so he's got to worry about what's coming up behind him and what's coming in front

[41:20] of them.

[41:21] That didn't end in ruin.

[41:22] It ended here.

[41:23] That sounds so much like a mirror make up.

[41:25] Right, but it was.

[41:26] Yeah.

[41:26] So Trevor's at a gunpoint trying to call three people back to him at gunpoint, right?

[41:34] Well, so as he's trying to call people back, they're calling back up and the only available is

[41:39] Ephraim because they're the only ones out.

[41:41] So Ephraim didn't do a bad job, Ephraim ran coat all the way to him, the officer jumped

[41:46] on and he ran coat all the way to him.

[41:48] They called me out and I drew on my clothes and my vest and hauled out of my house and

[41:54] ran coat basically down to him.

[41:57] Now he had them all in custody by the time I got there, but when I pulled up sort of the

[42:00] Ephraim guy.

[42:02] So calling me out was at the same time as the Ephraim guy getting there.

[42:06] I think if that happened and we had another officer even in fountain green, he's there before anybody else

[42:13] Does that make sense? At the farthest situation, I still think he's there

[42:17] And the nice thing with the E from two is two other cops live in the mountain

[42:22] Yeah, oh my god

[42:23] Can't see an end or yeah, both live in the mountain

[42:25] So like there's a time when Trevor got a guy with one so like right when a ship was about to start and

[42:32] and chancing stuff because she was on her way to work.

[42:35] So she was there right away, so we didn't keep you from happy,

[42:39] like a good relationship.

[42:41] Yeah, it's been a good, it'll be a long time.

[42:43] He's pretty sensible.

[42:44] Yeah.

[42:44] And he's been good.

[42:45] He's been really good.

[42:46] And we've helped them out several times.

[42:48] And the K-9 actually involves them quite a bit.

[42:51] So it's actually been a good thing.

[42:53] So if you guys are okay with it, when the work meeting comes up,

[42:56] we'll grab Mike and Brad and put that together and go meet with them and see where they're

[43:01] at.

[43:01] But that's kind of where things are with them. So I do think it gives advantages. It's a little harder not gonna lie

[43:06] They're time frames probably July 1st. They're gonna want you for Lambie. They'll want us for lamb days, which then it's in the mid

[43:17] It's in the middle

[43:18] So we'll be telling you guys quit taking vacation

[43:22] It's in the middle

[43:23] So how could we help there? That's one question I wanted to bring up. Is there any way you could I?

[43:30] I don't know.

[43:31] This is some way that, like, with later figures or ass or something like that.

[43:37] So no, we're not there to support, right?

[43:39] Yeah.

[43:40] But I honestly think, like, it sounds bad.

[43:43] It really does.

[43:44] When you put it all on paper, because, I mean, let's be honest, we're now officially in

[43:49] a contract with Morally, right?

[43:50] We're there.

[43:51] Their stuff is on the 4th of July, just like Mount Pleasant stuff, right?

[43:56] Fairviews won't be a problem because there's you stand alone

[43:59] But on Mount Pleasants that's where it's in the contract, right?

[44:02] But we this is nothing. I promise you this is nothing we haven't done for years

[44:07] We haven't like working for fairview. I used to go over and help

[44:11] Your own eye to do all the pretty. Yep, and the second you're done

[44:15] You jump in line and you go the back way and we make it a Mount Pleasant in time to get a Mount Pleasant

[44:21] That's what I'm just saying though. Yeah, there's got to be some way that we could help there is

[44:25] I mean there's a lot of control. Well, so that's so if all the cities like I'm not gonna lie if we all join together

[44:31] And we all go over there and we do some things obviously your responsibilities are there

[44:35] But fairview has free, right? Yeah, so maybe we get some of the city council that we can go over and help our own

[44:40] I for their stuff and we bolt over to Mount Pleasant help them and then when we're done with that just like you did last year

[44:46] Mount Pleasant jumps up and helps fairview do theirs

[44:49] So I agree with that just to have a schedule even yeah, just to move around just

[44:54] You know prior day or two

[44:56] Make a schedule and place volunteers from the council

[45:00] Just some vests that we could wear and help put the roll close signs up or some of that stuff, some of that stuff, you want to say, and it isn't too, yeah. So one positive there, we'll tell you, this increases our force to 10, 10 full time officers, which makes us the largest force in the county, basically, other than the sheriff's office, right? So with both of them, we're the largest force in the county. If we need six, which that's about what we use, it's six for the parade.

[45:29] We double-load it when we can't but six to get mountain pleasant parade done

[45:35] Merronize never had fire never had five over there, you know, you know, I mean they didn't it's just not been there

[45:42] So half hour difference so now it's an hour difference between start so we make it

[45:49] You pull the first guys off of the parade when it's more it's more what I see myself is like I'm saying thrown up

[45:56] close science because we'd almost have to throw the road close sign up down on

[46:01] 5th West and start correcting traffic in the direction. Before you guys got here.

[46:05] Yeah, but you're going to still have I think in that situation we're going to have

[46:09] five four or five over there and six over here five. So technically your

[46:14] closing state highlights. There's a couple of killer bees that should show up and

[46:18] help a little too. Yeah, and that's true. And so those are things that we can

[46:21] write out. Now I think the ship I think the sheriff's department ought to help

[46:25] So in Fairview they did for years, they helped for years until we took over and then we had enough manpower that we were going to show you in the last year.

[46:34] He's going to be, I'm not going to lie, he's going to be frought in the center this year at every one of them.

[46:38] He'll be in the parade, he'll be in the parade.

[46:40] I don't know how I'll see any help out of the county.

[46:43] You'll see him waving, that's about it.

[46:47] It's a presence.

[46:48] That's the weird thing about the sheriff being an elected position.

[46:51] It puts him in a weird spot anyways, but they're gonna be butter, but there's no way they won't be

[46:56] How do they their deputies are gonna be?

[47:00] Any different as long as they're

[47:03] But because they're losing the contract

[47:04] Yeah, as long as the sheriff doesn't make them be pleased. He's acting like he's acting like it's really good

[47:11] He is but behind the scenes. I don't know. I mean like he's he's gonna lose

[47:17] Yeah, I mean he can't it can't not hurt 300,000

[47:21] Even so yeah, you're good. We still we don't have to vote on anything. We're still good to roll

[47:28] What's up? I'm sure they're good to let some siren man. Go for it real quick. Can I two minutes? Yeah, okay, all right. Okay, with this said

[47:38] um

[47:39] I need your guys approval

[47:41] so

[47:42] Without a doubt we're going to be running a night shift. We're going to have people out as we have found in the last little bit

[47:49] that we have some new officers out there

[47:51] working by themselves right now.

[47:54] Some of those officers are making some decisions

[47:57] that, not that they're terrible decisions,

[47:59] they're just not, exactly where they're not

[48:03] experienced decisions.

[48:04] So, I need to make some supervisors.

[48:09] Okay, with the supervisors that will put a supervisor

[48:12] on every shift.

[48:15] We did the math on this and we looked it up

[48:17] and one of those would be John Blackburn

[48:21] that we're looking at, John to increase John

[48:24] to a supervisor position, it will cost us $6,000 a year.

[48:29] However, we don't pay holidays out.

[48:31] So the holiday save $4,000.

[48:34] And so it's only going to cost

[48:35] because he will be going to a salary basis.

[48:38] So it's only going to cost us $2,000 a year

[48:41] to put him as a supervisor in the department.

[48:43] The other supervisor we're looking at is Gary Tidwell,

[48:46] which his position already is a supervisor level, it would just give him the rank.

[48:51] And we've looked anywhere from 50 cents an hour to $1 an hour, worst case scenario is $3,000.

[48:57] So for $5,000 I'll put two supervisors on the road that have, that are put on a, what is it?

[49:05] Exempt position, they don't get overtime.

[49:08] They work a salary position and it actually is not very cost money.

[49:15] money organ. Okay, one question. Can we do that where it's not on the agenda? So, I think that is

[49:23] correct me if I'm wrong. I think that is something within our budget and I think it's within

[49:30] us to be able to do it as a department. That was one thing I was just question. Okay, so I was just

[49:37] kind of over talking money and it's not on the agenda. No, and it's not, but I do believe that it is

[49:43] within the budget and especially with the budget coming in it allows us to do

[49:47] that but I just would like like your straw poll if you're okay with that. Oh I

[49:53] think you. I'll wait for you. I promise you there was nothing more. Well that's

[49:59] a morale builder for you guys come taking on this new responsibility and new

[50:02] officers it's that's just the growth. It is and it does allow the working

[50:08] position. They're working positions. I am so against office sergeants I love

[50:11] They are not they are and I'm not going to lie John was the question with this canine because John gets called out right every time

[50:19] He gets called out. It's a two-hour minimum

[50:21] So John gets called out he makes two hours which means it's two hours over time that we have to pay we have not done a lot of that

[50:28] Because of that situation will now John

[50:33] Goes to salary and he doesn't get paid and he's very aware that you'll get called out and I get paid

[50:40] So that would increase him $2 an hour up to where Den is and I'll be honest with you kind of know John's background

[50:48] Yes, I do. He kind of got a little shaft there for anyone this fix is that wrong. I believe so they don't know what they think there's only one

[50:56] Sergeant, but we're probably going to promote too. Okay. Did you guys are good? Somebody want to make that motion? I mean last time.

[51:03] I'll make that one tonight. I approve that. We make two. We make two sergeants basically is what we're saying with.

[51:09] Yeah, and they're working so they are working as a crucial point. They are working. Sorry. They will be out on patrol or in

[51:15] Investigation that will make them a salary position salary position. Do you second it anyway second? Okay, motion by Mike second by Daniel

[51:24] Better do a roll call

[51:27] Mayor Michael. Yes, my greatest Daniel. I'm serious

[51:33] You can be my answer

[51:39] position. When's that effective? Immediately. So I'm not going to lie. Anybody

[51:47] available? I would suggest you go the next paper. Well, so they won't. The salary will not go

[51:52] to the next paper. Okay. That's what I was going to say. Effective the next. Yes. Yes.

[51:55] Yes. And it may be even two papers. We'll have to see. So we already got applicants for

[52:00] the new position. We have already had about on not going to lie 10 people for the new

[52:06] with Moroni or Sardin.

[52:07] For Moroni, we have about 10 people interested.

[52:10] We are actively as they just heard that it's probably

[52:13] happened.

[52:14] So another question.

[52:15] Do we have to advertise Sardin position

[52:17] or can we just know we can just do it?

[52:20] OK.

[52:20] Yeah, yeah.

[52:21] So we're going to put them through a ringer.

[52:23] They just don't know it yet.

[52:24] So if you are available tomorrow at any time,

[52:27] I don't know if you are anybody that would like to participate,

[52:30] it's going to be fast.

[52:31] It won't be long.

[52:32] We're just going to put them through heck for about an hour

[52:34] and then just let me bring them in.

[52:36] OK, I'll text you.

[52:37] It'd probably be around 12-ish, OK?

[52:40] So we're just going to put them through hack and think

[52:42] they're going to make an interview through.

[52:44] We are.

[52:45] They're stressed.

[52:46] And then tell them, I want them to.

[52:47] OK, I've got a right point.

[52:48] Sorry, I want them to do what I want them to do.

[52:50] I want them to see a line of mix under their nose.

[52:52] So you can do our work session if you want.

[52:53] My point is to continue tonight.

[52:55] I have to answer all the questions.

[52:57] If you do that, then answer.

[52:59] We're going to do a buzzer, though.

[53:07] So yeah, that'll those will be good things and we'll put them through a little bit of stress with some questions tomorrow, but ultimately they don't know it and they have put letters of interest in thinking it's one position and it'll be both.

[53:19] Okay, so both of them are the only two qualified early to do it. Well, it's probably pretty I mean for the department

[53:26] Just kind of exciting the gross happening a little bit of promotion. Well, and just to see and I mean we can talk about it now

[53:33] I mean Mike Mike already knows about it. So John actually

[53:39] John was in a position when you left I didn't know you didn't sorry

[53:43] It was when Jim was retiring.

[53:45] When Jim was retiring, they put another chief in place for short period time, and he promoted

[53:51] two individuals.

[53:53] He promoted Ben as a sergeant, and he promoted John as a sergeant.

[53:59] And when he, that chief stepped down from his position, Jim Wilberg took back over the

[54:08] department and declined one sergeant position, but upheld the other one. And so the one officer

[54:16] has had a hard time in the last few years knowing that he was promoted and then basically told

[54:21] it wasn't upheld. And honestly, between all of it, John actually probably was the most

[54:28] promotable at the time. They just picked one. And so this will probably write a wrong that was

[54:35] done in the amount but even though we're a different department. Yeah, it probably writes

[54:38] it wrong. So the 10 that you're interested, I mean, they're pretty good candidates.

[54:41] So we have three internal right now that we do not, we can just hire. We do not even

[54:47] have to test. We do not have to do anything. They're like, so they already part-time work

[54:53] for us. So we don't even have to have a process. We could take them. All three of them have

[54:58] put in like interest for it. We actually have four, but one of them didn't put in.

[55:02] So for part time three put it so all three want it there I'm not going to lie to you.

[55:11] There's a dangling carrot out there on some officers that would be phenomenal.

[55:17] We have to have a process internally and then off of the last hiring list we have an officer

[55:25] on that last hiring list that looks good I've already talked to the city's HRs and we found

[55:30] out that technically, I mean, any of them applying we don't want them. We don't have to do anything.

[55:35] We can open it up externally. There's a couple dangling carrots out there that if they decide to

[55:41] do it, they would be worth maybe opening up. So, but we have a lot of interest in it. A lot. So,

[55:49] and everyone certified, which is funny because he from can't even get anybody certified.

[55:53] They opened it, they've opened it up twice and the only one was Daniel.

[56:03] It's kind of interesting because we are getting a lot and Cher's office couldn't hire you from can't hire right now and merges

[56:10] I don't know. I just think it's I think it's just cool. I mean I think it's really a good department people hear about it

[56:16] Just the growth and the way it's being handled. We have people from Utah County that have reached out. We have people from Nephi that reached out

[56:25] couple of them for me by so it's not we're gonna have our back. Yeah it's great. And I think

[56:32] couple things. Now what John the interesting thing is John has been our sniper on like sniper

[56:39] trained and had a sniper rifle for four years and it was so funny because before I even talked to

[56:45] John about it he's like you know I've done this if the new person wants to come in and they're the

[56:51] right person I'll train them and I'll give those over and I'm like that's a

[56:55] supervisor yeah so it's kind of interesting to see and kind of step up the

[57:00] title so but now it's good and so I just I'm found in green they they kind of

[57:08] see the writing on the wall that's why there's coming I mean I'm sure they're

[57:11] worried about being left to an island out there it's interesting because you're

[57:18] exactly right. So we told them we told them we could not take when we met with them the first time

[57:24] with Brad, we flat out told him we cannot take you unless Maroni comes. And if Maroni comes then

[57:31] we can take you if Maroni doesn't come we can't take you because you're out on nylon. I would say

[57:36] that's got to be the way the sheriff's thing can take. It's like you're out on a nylon. So like and

[57:42] that might be why it's being pushed. They were very interested in Maroni obviously

[57:47] from the text messages, the minute they found out Moroni took it, they voted to reach out to us too.

[57:55] So I do anticipate that coming. The only bummer is that it's just not another truck.

[58:00] Yeah. That's the only bummer. They had that. But with the other one, with Moroni and what we're doing there, I think we can save some money.

[58:09] Plus we have some time. Moroni knows that we should be able to fill it out.

[58:15] No, we're good.

[58:16] Traffic gets the new truck.

[58:17] Traffic gets Maroni's old truck, then whoever we hire for found green can have Trevor's

[58:22] truck.

[58:22] Well, you're hire Maroni and then found green.

[58:26] Push comes to shove.

[58:26] You can always hockseed it.

[58:28] You can.

[58:28] And we can...

[58:29] Was that me?

[58:30] Jumping vehicles.

[58:31] When you're down to your ship, you leave the park and somebody else hops in.

[58:35] Oh yeah.

[58:35] Yeah.

[58:36] And that's a good thing.

[58:38] That's a good thing, dude.

[58:38] I sometimes just because of mechanic.

[58:40] Yeah.

[58:41] You had your go-bag and your stuff and you just swap it out.

[58:43] The big city did all the time.

[58:44] You don't get a car and we have opportunity to our SRO is done

[58:49] BNS are all the anime

[58:51] And his truck sets so we got his truck from May until it's our august

[58:56] He did last year gonna go full time, but yeah, so he worked full time all summer and we have used him

[59:06] But you won't get that this summer. I don't know

[59:08] He would be handy for

[59:12] events. He doesn't like patrol.

[59:17] This is my opinion but full-time positions pay out

[59:20] better. I know. I think the problem was was that was such an housing. I'm sure it

[59:27] was. And I and you know my feeling on that I mean what's he got less than 10

[59:33] to finish out his pension. It would be yeah I don't know why he doesn't do that

[59:40] because he's been doing SRO for like 13 years part-time and if you do it at full

[59:44] time he would have been his pension would be done and that's his choice and it is and so

[59:51] and then we just have to wait and see we have to wait and see what the county decides to do

[59:55] because that is one of the biggest bonuses of the SRO during the summer you have helped

[1:00:00] It is. Now we do have a tricky situation that we're trying to handle internally right now, but we have an officer that's been in three crashes. I know the truck breaks down. They're not getting anyone. It seems to break down every time it's driven. It's getting to the point that we got to decide what we're going to do. Now this officer a few weeks ago probably was a shoe in for our opening and now we're kind of looking at that.

[1:00:29] I mean, things to look at, right?

[1:00:31] That officer makes, I'm gonna guess, he's gonna look it up later, but we'd think 30 to 40 a year.

[1:00:39] One way or another, about 30 to 40 will be cleared up, which allows potentially Jeff in the summer to cover some shifts.

[1:00:47] It also could be something we save for the future or it could be.

[1:00:52] because I could see him especially with it if it all works out the way it is and he's not alone but the

[1:01:01] trolling you know that was great there's where he was all along that was true most of the holidays

[1:01:06] are almost to give him like I know yeah because I remember back in the day like the fourth is like

[1:01:11] nobody got the fourth off it doesn't matter if it landed on your rotation you're not gonna get the

[1:01:15] fourth off so we have to work the week of the fourth and the week of the 24th are absolutely

[1:01:19] blackout dates. Nobody can take those days off. But right now, we didn't anticipate found green.

[1:01:25] Yeah, I think we have an officer. No, I think you had two over there doing full patrol three

[1:01:29] line days. You probably be all right. That's probably even too much. They don't even have that now.

[1:01:32] Really? If you can handle the, if you can handle the parade, it cools down for a little bit.

[1:01:40] And have like, yeah, it's just in the park. Yeah, you walk the park. They don't have the all-night

[1:01:45] dance is any more they've got alcohol banned you just got to hang out wash

[1:01:49] them softball eat some sandwiches top to people maybe one guy and then another

[1:01:53] guy coming in once in a while yeah although they do serve that month and

[1:01:57] sandwich well I'm sorry you don't have any taste so here's my here's my business

[1:02:10] And I haven't learned enough to know kind of how the revenue works, but how much, I mean,

[1:02:18] you guys are going to patrol more, you're going to make more revenue in both cities, you

[1:02:22] know, once this is done, right?

[1:02:24] Yes.

[1:02:25] So it's going to overcome, you know, plus what they're paying, I mean, it's going to be good,

[1:02:30] right?

[1:02:30] Yeah, so I I'm not gonna lie. So that is why I've said to every one of them. This is a great start

[1:02:40] But you guys need to realize

[1:02:44] How do you say it this way? So I'll tell you what the pitch I told my own

[1:02:47] I now found greens gonna be a little bit different because they went from

[1:02:51] Paying their officer the absolute lowest wage in the entire state

[1:02:56] They were the lowest and they went from paying that officer to like a $40,000 increase to the county

[1:03:03] So they're looking at that and now they're looking at us. It go on just 5,000, right?

[1:03:08] Which like I said paid for the amount of service they get

[1:03:14] Where the best way to describe is is Maroni

[1:03:18] Maroni had a budget. It was equal to Fairview. They were identical when I left

[1:03:23] which was five or six years ago. When I left, they were identical. Fairview came over and every year they bumped theirs up and they went up and they went up until they were able to get exactly two officers what's needed and then to contract with us, right?

[1:03:40] At a two officer plan. Moronized population went up and they did this.

[1:03:47] Yeah. Going to the very minimal. They're people that are running their city now know that

[1:03:53] that was an absolutely horrific and not safe thing. They told me that they stayed up at

[1:03:59] nice, just worrying about, this is where we are, we know it's not good, what are we going

[1:04:04] to do. So now they're viewing this up to where they were, maybe one step higher and more

[1:04:09] they were, but they know they've got to get here. Now with that, they also anticipate, I told them,

[1:04:17] don't count on your budget with the revenue that comes in, but how can you not? I mean, you have to

[1:04:21] look out. Yeah, you have to, right? A little bit. I mean, yeah, the more tickets you're right,

[1:04:25] though, the more criminal or attorney fees you've got to pay, the more there is true to that. Everything

[1:04:31] goes out, so everything does. This is what we looked at. We are, Fairview is at the exact same point

[1:04:39] that they were last year right now. So we anticipate a 30% increase in ticket revenue from

[1:04:47] Mount Pleasant says the same. Exactly the same we increase 30% typically. So we anticipate them

[1:04:54] not at 30 because they're at 3000. We anticipate them at 1000 increase. I mean yeah, it's not uncommon

[1:05:04] and that they would be getting probably 30,000 revenue. That's what they were at a while ago.

[1:05:10] So that's not off the chart.

[1:05:12] Taking to make sure it's recording. I don't know if it's on or not.

[1:05:16] So it's not uncommon to see that.

[1:05:20] Mountain Green explained to us that they're less than 10, too. So I'm sure that wouldn't be

[1:05:25] far-fetched to see them in the 32. So with that increase, that helps, but like you say there's

[1:05:31] cost to that, too. There is. But with that increase, and you're not wrong, there is

[1:05:36] cause there's still margin. There's margin. And so once that increase comes, I think you're

[1:05:41] going to see, I don't want you to think it's pure product. No, it's not because it will,

[1:05:47] I think eventually with our fees and stuff. Yeah. But that will hopefully show it.

[1:06:00] What are

[1:06:01] or whatever you have.

[1:06:02] Yeah, great question.

[1:06:03] I'll probably teach Nova in three schools, or I'll take one, but no, legitimately it depends

[1:06:11] on the county.

[1:06:12] Now, don't get me wrong.

[1:06:13] They're within our jurisdiction, so they are not going and they will not be in staff.

[1:06:19] We will be doing walkthroughs in every one of their schools every single day, just like we

[1:06:23] do here.

[1:06:24] So you'll see them, I mean, some days, the accidents are circumstance, but we'll be there

[1:06:29] almost every day with that said the program will be taught rather county picks it up or we pick it

[1:06:36] up we will pick we'll teach it so I don't tell my wife too but she lets me know every time she sees

[1:06:41] one so she see a lot it's my place of which she says that somebody stopped by last time I went

[1:06:49] there she's like oh you just missed it well I was like you get doubled dope but she's not always

[1:06:56] sitting or front office. That don't mean they haven't been there. That just means that they didn't. I

[1:07:00] meant how you're I know that they were there today because I listen to them. I can tell you but it's

[1:07:04] recorded. I can tell you what to go. All right. It should be every day. All right.

[1:07:13] Because you know I'm there every day so I'll see him. So that's why I was wondering. Yes. So it should

[1:07:17] be every day unless there's some accidents. It should be every day at least. That's what the goal is.

[1:07:22] So have the school districts or anybody that are they aware of this? No, not if they are

[1:07:29] Reached out, but just so you're wet. Neither were the attorneys because I called the attorney yesterday and said hey

[1:07:35] We're gonna start forwarding cases unless it's like what?

[1:07:38] When did this happen? I said today, so I just told you. Yeah, I'll find out cuz he's ending was on the phone Steve today

[1:07:51] the messier and your wife's coming tonight to do some article or something but yeah so that's kind

[1:07:58] of the plan so we won't leave them unscathed it'll be there and even if they only see them twice a

[1:08:04] week that's twice more than you see them now. I'm not saying that they're not there but they don't

[1:08:09] I'll be there but it rotates but my daughter is all excited because she thinks that we will be

[1:08:19] there. Like, hmm, she's not. She'll see like James when he drops his kids off or something, you know.

[1:08:26] No, it'll be good. It'll be good. The easiest thing, especially in the spring, is you stop by

[1:08:30] for around the kickball. Yeah. And that's the front of the kickball and those kids won't forget.

[1:08:34] And that's that's the thing. You show that, you show up or you play basketball with them and it's

[1:08:38] a totally big love that. Yeah, really great. So no, that's that's one of my big things and we'll just

[1:08:43] see what the county does. I mean, if I mean you know as well as I do, the county right now,

[1:08:49] The officer is in Maroni Middle School, and that is in the county, barely, but it is in the county is their jurisdiction, and then he services Maroni Elementary on Green Elementary in Spring City.

[1:09:02] So if we take two of them, the question is if they will continue to fund that position.

[1:09:11] And we'll just have to see.

[1:09:12] Merona I ever been like annex that I

[1:09:16] Only if it doesn't a benefit so you'd have to

[1:09:18] Like just benefit this annexing a school do anything for him. I don't know

[1:09:22] I can't tax it. You can't and I don't fair

[1:09:25] You did it not that long ago. They did an anti-address, but it's inside the city limits now

[1:09:30] Yeah, cuz I can't think of a reason why it would benefit the Merona city to bring them in. I don't know either

[1:09:34] There's not enough houses out there. I don't know either

[1:09:41] I'm just saying other than to make the title of my own I middle school fit it so and they

[1:09:48] might just leave it alone where it is and Greg Mike continue what he's doing they're

[1:09:53] gonna re-evaluate if if what's coming down will re-evaluate in the year I think so too and if

[1:09:59] that happens I mean it's what he does suppose oh supposedly he's retiring that's what I mean

[1:10:04] No, I'm sure they'll re-evaluate him that kind of the sheriff says he's not hurt.

[1:10:07] And I haven't heard anything official, so I don't...

[1:10:14] I think he's looking for you.

[1:10:20] Yeah, he has a fixer ticket and he's sitting there and...

[1:10:23] Oh, does she really?

[1:10:24] Who's that?

[1:10:25] Is that Kim?

[1:10:26] No.

[1:10:29] Is she really?

[1:10:30] Oh, it's for my pleasure, you know who it is.

[1:10:33] No, I don't know her name, I know.

[1:10:36] I know. Well, I just I just and I've said it every time that you're just a lot of positive vibe

[1:10:42] I think about it, and I'm I tell you what I'm I sure aware when I hear sirens think about you guys see a little prayers like

[1:10:52] When I was when I serve in the church stuff whenever that siren go off like oh, no

[1:10:59] And so it is it is good about it again, and it'll be it'll be good and we'll see how

[1:11:03] We'll see how it turns out if this is I'm not going to lie if it's a mistake over a tire and leave it alone.

[1:11:09] No, I just didn't.

[1:11:11] I'm just going to show his cards all of us.

[1:11:15] But if it is the good thing about it, and that's the way Brad pitched it, the bulls cities do.

[1:11:20] This is a one year kind of you have to give a six month notice on retiree.

[1:11:24] They do.

[1:11:25] Well they have to get used to it.

[1:11:27] And when you give that, me and Mike probably is on retirees on our own again.

[1:11:31] Yeah, but yeah, but no realistically like if it if it does not work for anybody involved

[1:11:38] We have a really good thing going. Yeah, it is awesome. And that's the thing. It's you're gonna know

[1:11:43] Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna learn some stuff and we're gonna tweak some stuff

[1:11:46] And then it will work and then it's and then it's me work. Yeah, we make it work

[1:11:50] Yeah, and we've had when we've done great so far. I mean

[1:11:53] There's been some tight things with the budget that we worried about and these have made it work and

[1:11:59] vehicles always seem to be like the there's always something. My question is, is have you guys

[1:12:04] figured out the extra wear and tear for the traveling back and forth of these cities?

[1:12:09] So I patrol them at your angle for almost 10 years. I know. You're not going to get 10 years at a

[1:12:14] vehicle. You're not. And we are we look at I've seen in that old ferry before because it ran like a

[1:12:20] up until it is now. You also have that same. You are seeing that in direct three vehicles

[1:12:26] driving that. Yeah. It's hard and that is true. And it is hard to say. But we took a vehicle

[1:12:31] that's been part time for probably five years. And now we made it full. And so the truck

[1:12:37] is showing the wearer tear because it's not used to being used like that, right? And so

[1:12:42] although the mileage is low and it's an older truck, it's being used. So the plan, obviously,

[1:12:48] We have payment on vehicles, some of them we own, some of them we're paid for, we now own our own nice truck as of today.

[1:12:57] So like there's something that we own and some that we don't.

[1:13:00] We get as much as we can out of them, but in all essence when those leases or I'd say own the leases and I mean the plan is to move right to anyone.

[1:13:11] What's your goal? You're hoping for 150,000?

[1:13:15] Yeah, I know that cars are meant to last one 50, but not patrol cars one 50's ugly. I'm not going to lie a hundred. I will have my get

[1:13:23] take it off when you start getting high truck will be paid off in.

[1:13:29] I just barely got it in November. Yeah, and I'm already a 20,000 miles.

[1:13:33] So if you take then it's a four year or not a five year. Yeah.

[1:13:37] and it's under two or five.

[1:13:38] So if you look at our oldest trucks right now,

[1:13:42] Moroni would be top of the oldest,

[1:13:44] but that's 12,000 miles.

[1:13:45] If you're looking at the oldest

[1:13:46] as the one that I'm in,

[1:13:48] the old Fairview truck right now,

[1:13:50] it's a 2021, it has 59,000 on it.

[1:13:55] The other one is the Dodge.

[1:14:01] Yeah, and it's got 60.

[1:14:02] It's right at 60.

[1:14:03] So those are the two oldest,

[1:14:04] they're right about $59.60. We owned the Dodge. We owned this one both. Both are owned.

[1:14:11] I got $420 on my Sierra. I know. That's nice. And so they're like a cop.

[1:14:17] Yeah. And they're right there and everything's going good with them. But the Dodge has just

[1:14:22] the reason why the Dodge keeps going. Just replace the engine. But we didn't pay for it. It was

[1:14:27] under warranty. So they replaced the engine. So it is moving. But I think I used to roll

[1:14:32] like 10 to 15,000 miles a year and I'm guessing you guys are going to be closer to 20.

[1:14:37] We are about 20.

[1:14:38] We're about 20 years.

[1:14:40] Yeah.

[1:14:40] That's before found green.

[1:14:41] That is before found green.

[1:14:43] Yeah.

[1:14:44] So we'll roll more.

[1:14:45] Like there's no doubt.

[1:14:46] But to your vehicle turnover, I just trying to figure out how quick your vehicle turnover

[1:14:50] is going to be.

[1:14:51] Now, if we can kind of get it towards a little more like not necessarily a set schedule for

[1:14:57] the city, so let's get over with the guys to

[1:15:00] Hey, if you're like the found green guy, you're not going to be the fairview guy, that shit as well. Now, like me and Steve or John and Tidwell have been that maybe do roam our vehicles will definitely go up. We might can get ahead of the curve a little bit. Like, hey, if you're found green that day, you're found green in my own eye. You'll come over here if we really need your help, but not to get lunch. You know what I'm saying? I was going to ask, where's the lunch fucking thing? I don't know. There's nothing over on that side. So we're over here.

[1:15:30] No, there's not because I've walked out of a couple places and we're all

[1:15:32] now when I've seen he was cooking and I'm like, oh no, I've done some cases with you.

[1:15:37] We are not going to eat here today, thank you.

[1:15:41] So overall, like I said, I'm not going to lie, congratulations, because we would have never

[1:15:48] thought.

[1:15:49] I mean, it is awesome, but like if fountain green and I am almost 100% positive, they're there

[1:15:58] Yeah, yeah, it's good. We've just we went from

[1:16:02] Merging two towns to take in the north

[1:16:05] Really there's only one down sitting right now. So when you get the all everything logoed out how long's that?

[1:16:11] Yeah, so that'll make a difference. Yeah, we'll make a difference. So

[1:16:15] We have a little extra money, but I'm I'm holding on to that with my fine two nails

[1:16:24] Like no, but we

[1:16:26] We have some plans, and there's some things like we know that Moronise can make a payment.

[1:16:34] We know what our service will be July 1st, but we have some time to get to that service

[1:16:40] and they'll have it happen.

[1:16:42] That'll be cool.

[1:16:43] So it'll be good, I'm not going to lie, I'm panning pigeon.

[1:16:48] I like to have a little reserve, Nathan likes it too, so it'll be good.

[1:16:54] Nathan's a good money watcher.

[1:16:56] he is cool all right okay do you need a motion then one motion I motion you

[1:17:07] I might have signed that in an hour and a half, so we gotta go get in this.

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