Agenda
[0:32]
Call to Order
[0:38]
Roll Call
[1:22]
Adopt Agenda
[2:02]
Citizen Comment Period (for items not on the agenda)
[3:44]
Approve meeting minutes from the July 9, 2025 Natural Resources Commission Work Session.
[4:45]
Trick-or-Teeing Event
[15:08]
Geothermal Planning Grant
[20:34]
Shoreland Management Ordinance Development
[36:17]
Interstate Valley Creek Stabilization and BMP Project Tour
[45:39]
Staff Announcements
[47:56]
Commission Comments
[48:07]
Committee Reports
[58:53]
Adjourn
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Good evening. I
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d like to call
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the
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SEPTEMBER 10th, 2025, Natural
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Resources Commission, lead to
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order, and we will start with,
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uh, roll call, um,
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coordinatorsrier.
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Thank you, Vice Chair Stein,
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Commissioners present, um, Vice
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Chair Stein, um, commissioners2
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or sorry, Commissioners
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McCaslin and Daw, um, currently
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we do not have a quorum, um,
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commissioners, they are not
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present our commissioner
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s
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tuning, husbands and sheets, um,
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I believe we still are
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expecting a couple
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commissioners, um, but MR. Vice
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Chair, if we could move along
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with the agenda
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but not take formal action
[1:17]
unless we do get a quorum at
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some point. Ok, thank you.
[1:22]
So, the next item was to
[1:23]
approve the agenda. We will
[1:25]
table that at this time and
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just use the
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the agenda that you have before
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you as, as sort of a, a draft
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or a I guess a unofficial
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agenda and we
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ll still kind of
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follow that, that flow for the
[1:38]
meeting.
[1:40]
And same thing with the
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approval of the minutes from
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our last work session which was
[1:45]
in JULY.
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Um, we will not take formal
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action on that at this time
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since we
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re we do not have a
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quorum
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um, but please do review those
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minutes, um, when you, when you
[2:01]
have time.
[2:03]
And the next item is the uh
[2:05]
citizen comment period. We
[2:05]
don
[2:07]
t have any in-service
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in-person visitors this evening.
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Um, we would like to
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um
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put out a warm invite for any
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citizens of Maota Heights that
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would like to attend one of our
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meetings. We
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d love to to have
[2:19]
you here to hear, um, any
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concerns you have about the
[2:21]
city
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s natural resources, any
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positive things that you
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d like
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to share as well, um, one other
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opportunity I
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ll mention is
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once or twice a year we do have
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like a field or a site visit.
[2:34]
We just had one last month to,
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um,
[2:37]
the Interstate Valley Creek
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restoration project, so that
[2:39]
s
[2:40]
another opportunity for
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citizens to come and meet, meet
[2:45]
the commission, um, talk to us,
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um, see, see some really
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interesting and cool projects.
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Um, so I just want to remind,
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remind, uh anyone that MAY be
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watching on Town Square of that
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opportunity.
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Um, coordinator Sreer, can we
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go back now and, and do those
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approvals, or is that the, yes,
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that would be great. Thank you.
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Uh
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so we
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re gonna go back in the
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agenda to take care of a few
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items here, um, you should have
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the agenda in front of you.
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And
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is there a motion to adopt
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tonight
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s agenda.
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So
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So the motion by Commissioner
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Dahl, is there a second?
[3:28]
Second by Commissioner Sheets.
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Any discussion on the motion?
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Um, hearing none, all in favor,
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please say aye. Aye.
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Paul Poino
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we have an agenda
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And then let
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s move, um, back
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again a little to approval of
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the of the minutes from the
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JULY 9th, 2025, um, commission
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work session.
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Um, hopefully y
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all had, had a
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little bit of time to review
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those minutes prior to the
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meeting.
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And um
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yeah, so is there a motion to
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approve the minutes from the
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JULY 9th work session.
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I look to approve
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that the motion is made by
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Commissioner Tony, is there a
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second?
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Second by Commissioner McCaslin.
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Any discussion on the motion?
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Ok, hearing none, all in favor
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of approving the minutes.
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Please say aye.
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All opposino.
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And the the minutes are
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approved.
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Um, so going to item 6 on your
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agenda, new business
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and
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this one has an action item of
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discussion, discussion of the
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trickerteen event.
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As well as some, um, a decision
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on our level of involvement in
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the trick routine event.
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Um
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and who specifically that that
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might be if we choose to
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participate in that event. Um,
[5:05]
to kind of kick this off for my
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benefit, can you remind me, did
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we participate in that event?
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We did participate in that
[5:12]
event last year.
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Yes, um, thank you, MR. Vice
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Chair Stein, um, we did
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participate last year, uh, last
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year
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s participation was
[5:25]
focused on stormwater education
[5:27]
and promoting the adopted Dream
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program.
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And I can, I can, if the
[5:36]
commission is ready, I can, um
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present on that item. Yeah,
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please do.
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Um, so this is an annual event.
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It
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s held at the Par 3 city
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golf course and so again we
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will be having the event in
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2025. Um, it is scheduled for
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Saturday, OCTOBER 18th, from 4
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to 6 P.M. It
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s open to the
[6:00]
public. It
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s a free event, um,
[6:05]
each hole on the golf course,
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uh, features giveaways and
[6:10]
candy for kids and um other
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partic
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ip ant s
[6:15]
Um, we have been discussing on
[6:17]
how to incorporate partners in
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energy, um, in city events as
[6:22]
well as this one in the in the
[6:24]
past and the commission has as
[6:29]
well, um, so some ideas
[6:30]
proposed including um
[6:33]
uh, some ideas were also
[6:37]
proposed by staff to um move
[6:38]
the commission to the first
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hole on the golf course and
[6:44]
then also incorporate waste and
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recycling organics, um, uh, and
[6:51]
education on other
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sustainability efforts in the
[6:56]
city. Um, so one of the things
[6:57]
from Partners and Energy
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standpoint would be promoting
[7:00]
the home energy squads as well
[7:03]
as other partners in energy
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programs.
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For residents and businesses in
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Mendota Heights. So
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um, if the commission could
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please discuss the event and
[7:15]
interest and ability to be
[7:18]
involved or attend at this time.
[7:21]
I think it
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s a great, seems
[7:23]
like a great opportunity to get
[7:25]
information out and would
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wondering in terms of the home
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energy squad, I know, I think
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at one of the events we had a
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drawing for a free home energy
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audit? Would that be a
[7:34]
possibility to do that again at
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this event? Yeah, thank you for
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the question. Um, I believe so.
[7:40]
Um, I will check with Partners
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in Energy. They might still be
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offering free, um, home energy
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squad visits through the fall,
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if not, I think we can sponsor,
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I, I think that wouldn
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t be an
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an issue to sponsor another one.
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And I would add we
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ve got our
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materials for the
[8:00]
the partners in energy booth
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pretty well prepared. We
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ve got
[8:04]
a slide show, um, for some of
[8:06]
our events in the spring, we,
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we brought along some some lawn
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equipment, some things like
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that. So
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I guess the preparation for
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that
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should be, would be pretty
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minimal, I would think.
[8:20]
To, to do a boot there
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Was there any
[8:26]
any insights from
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doing this last year from the,
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I guess the education outreach
[8:30]
committee here.
[8:35]
Well, a piece of it is, um.
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Implementing whatever you
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re
[8:38]
boozing or talking about into
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the hole, right? That
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s a piece
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of it. So, um
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we
[8:45]
d want to think about how to
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be engaging at the whole, um,
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with the.
[8:55]
Materials that we have.
[8:57]
And would it be pretty much
[8:58]
engaging with the, the adults
[9:00]
that come with the child,
[9:02]
probably from the home energy
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perspective or is there a way
[9:05]
to engage kids in that topic?
[9:05]
It
[9:07]
s a good question. I mean, I
[9:09]
think we should adjust it. I
[9:11]
was not present
[9:13]
myself last year, but I can be
[9:16]
on this date. So if we need
[9:17]
people there, I can be there.
[9:21]
Ok.
[9:23]
And just
[9:24]
make sure sheets just, uh, just
[9:25]
so I understand because I
[9:25]
ve
[9:26]
never been to this event. What
[9:28]
does that mean? Like,
[9:30]
coordinated with the whole, is
[9:32]
it gift, uh, well, the idea
[9:34]
that we had last year that our
[9:37]
student commissioner, um,
[9:40]
Hannah was super instrumental
[9:43]
in was we created a great setup
[9:46]
to go over the whole to look
[9:49]
like leaves and engage with
[9:51]
talking about stormwater, um,
[9:52]
and
[9:54]
cleaning leaves out from your.
[9:55]
From the drains and like if
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you
[9:57]
re on walks and you see
[9:58]
that there are leaves, you can
[9:59]
do something about it. So I
[10:01]
created an engaging way to talk
[10:02]
about it. I don
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t know, um,
[10:05]
coordinatorsrayer, if you would
[10:09]
say it differently, but it made
[10:11]
a topic, um, simple to talk
[10:12]
about with.
[10:13]
Kids and attendees, but also
[10:15]
kind of fun.
[10:17]
Mck had like, I think it had
[10:18]
the
[10:20]
drinks to the river stencil on
[10:21]
it, you know.
[10:21]
Like.
[10:24]
Uh.
[10:25]
To help you recognize that
[10:25]
where you
[10:26]
d see it in your
[10:28]
neighborhood or
[10:29]
around the city. And then the
[10:30]
other halls are sponsored by
[10:33]
like an orthodontist and
[10:34]
a martial arts place in the
[10:35]
handout.
[10:38]
Each one, so
[10:41]
sort of the sponsoring. Um, and
[10:42]
just to confirm all of the
[10:44]
material that was used last
[10:46]
year is still available to use
[10:48]
this year.
[10:49]
Um, uh, Commissioner Tuning,
[10:52]
yes, however, the focus has
[10:54]
changed to Partners in Energy
[10:57]
and sustainability, so we
[11:00]
probably could not reuse those
[11:02]
materials for this year, yeah,
[11:03]
yeah, and there
[11:05]
s been some
[11:08]
talk about um costumes if
[11:09]
commissioners want to dress up
[11:11]
in costumes. I think staff will
[11:13]
be in costumes, um, vegetable
[11:15]
costumes, it sounds like
[11:17]
another waste in organics
[11:19]
themed. So if there is
[11:20]
something it creatively you
[11:22]
want to come up with for a
[11:24]
costume for Partners in Energy
[11:26]
or another sustainability.
[11:28]
Topic.
[11:29]
Um, or something else. You
[11:29]
don
[11:29]
t have to dress up in a
[11:32]
costume either.
[11:34]
I mean, I think uh perhaps our
[11:35]
education committee and
[11:36]
outreach committee could come
[11:39]
up with something, but in terms
[11:42]
of um educating younger people.
[11:42]
I mean, there
[11:42]
s opportunities
[11:44]
to educate about light bulbs,
[11:45]
light switches, that type of
[11:47]
thing perhaps in terms of
[11:48]
conserving energy, so I think,
[11:49]
I think we could probably come
[11:50]
up with something to have on
[11:52]
the whole and then
[11:54]
um, encourage
[11:54]
whoever
[11:55]
s there to dress up in
[11:59]
a costume appropriate to that.
[12:01]
Um, just recently engaging with
[12:04]
a young child on this, um, I
[12:05]
found that there
[12:05]
s, it
[12:07]
resonated when talking about
[12:09]
fossil fuels and dinosaurs and
[12:10]
all of this, uh, so maybe that
[12:11]
could be an engaging way
[12:13]
looking at what is fossil what
[12:14]
are fossil fuels in a very
[12:16]
basic way and what do renewable
[12:18]
energies mean in a very basic
[12:20]
way, but, um, considering the
[12:21]
timeline is only a month. I
[12:22]
m
[12:23]
not quite sure. I would have to
[12:24]
just kind of discuss more
[12:27]
logistics, how much we want to,
[12:28]
um, how much
[12:30]
capacity we have and
[12:31]
availability to create this
[12:32]
material. I definitely agree
[12:35]
with you, Commissioner Dahl. I
[12:37]
think education, the education
[12:38]
community committee could jump
[12:40]
in on this, but maybe that
[12:40]
s
[12:41]
something that we can chat
[12:43]
about.
[12:45]
Yeah, and on that question,
[12:47]
coordinator Sreer, do we have,
[12:49]
do you need a commitment
[12:50]
tonight that we are going to
[12:52]
take a hole at this event, or
[12:54]
is this something we can have
[12:55]
the education outreach
[12:57]
committee put a little more
[12:59]
thought into how we would
[13:01]
how we would, um
[13:01]
I don
[13:04]
t know, decorate the, the
[13:05]
area or whatever the, the word
[13:06]
is there.
[13:08]
Um, or do you need a
[13:10]
with the time, what is it?
[13:12]
OCTOBER 18th, do you need a
[13:13]
firm commitment tonight that
[13:13]
we
[13:15]
ll be taking
[13:18]
one of the slots. Thank you,
[13:20]
Vice Chair MR. Uh, Vice Chair,
[13:24]
I think that, um, not maybe
[13:26]
individual commitments, but
[13:27]
maybe a commitment from the
[13:29]
commission as a whole that
[13:29]
they
[13:33]
ll put some effort into um
[13:36]
coming up with some um
[13:37]
things to have at the hole if
[13:38]
they
[13:38]
re not, if you
[13:39]
re not
[13:40]
going to be able to make it, um,
[13:42]
to help promote partners in
[13:43]
energy, um
[13:46]
I, I think that would be enough,
[13:48]
and then we can get individual
[13:49]
commitments. Um, I would like
[13:51]
to have individual commitments
[13:52]
by the end of the month for
[13:56]
sure.
[13:59]
Thank you for the clarification,
[14:00]
coordinator Sreer, um, and I
[14:02]
would say as a whole I think it
[14:04]
sounds like a great opportunity
[14:06]
for our commission to engage
[14:07]
with the public on on energy,
[14:08]
so.
[14:11]
Generally positive feedback.
[14:11]
ok.
[14:14]
I would say
[14:14]
Well, I
[14:17]
d like to move then
[14:19]
that uh we sponsored the whole
[14:21]
I had um.
[14:22]
This is the second portion, but
[14:24]
that the education and outreach
[14:26]
committee design the whole for
[14:27]
our committee.
[14:30]
So I have a motion from
[14:32]
Commissioner Dah to sponsor a
[14:35]
whole with with um
[14:37]
some additional work from the
[14:38]
education outreach committee on
[14:40]
on how to stage that the best?
[14:41]
Is there a second to that
[14:44]
motion?
[14:45]
Second by Commissioner Sheets.
[14:49]
Any discussion on the motion?
[14:53]
Ok. All in favor say aye. All
[14:54]
those say no.
[14:56]
Ok, the motion passes. We will
[14:57]
commit to that coordinators
[15:03]
spreader. Thank you.
[15:06]
And the next item on the agenda
[15:09]
of new business is.
[15:10]
The geothermal planning grant,
[15:12]
and I will, um, kick this over
[15:15]
to coordinator Sreer for an
[15:16]
information only update on this
[15:17]
grant.
[15:20]
Thank you, Vice Chair Stein.
[15:23]
The city had originally applied
[15:25]
for a geothermal planning grant
[15:27]
from the Minnesota Department
[15:30]
of Commerce back in MARCH of
[15:32]
this year we were placed on a
[15:35]
waiting list and then recently
[15:36]
were notified that we were
[15:38]
taken off that waiting list and
[15:43]
awarded, um, up to $150,000 for
[15:45]
the planning of a geothermal
[15:47]
energy system. The plan would
[15:49]
be to
[15:50]
assess the city
[15:51]
s public works
[15:54]
facility with that grant, um,
[15:59]
so I, I brought up this graphic
[16:01]
from the Department of Energy,
[16:04]
um, for those not familiar with
[16:06]
geothermal energy systems or
[16:08]
geothermal energy in general.
[16:12]
So this is kind of a nice basic,
[16:15]
um, graphic that shows how
[16:18]
geothermal energy works, uh,
[16:19]
basically
[16:19]
it
[16:22]
s taking or utilizing the
[16:24]
constant temperature of the
[16:27]
ground and moisture water
[16:30]
within the ground sometimes to
[16:33]
heat and cool buildings, um
[16:35]
the, the, uh, it, it
[16:36]
s only
[16:39]
maybe uh below 30 ft in in
[16:41]
depth where you reach that
[16:44]
constant temperature of 50 to
[16:45]
59
[16:50]
f, and so, um, Wells are
[16:51]
dog and it
[16:53]
s on a looped system,
[16:55]
so the water moves through the,
[16:58]
the well or the pipes, um, it
[16:59]
doesn
[17:00]
t take water from the
[17:01]
ground. It
[17:02]
s just passing
[17:03]
through
[17:06]
the ground and it can be
[17:08]
installed vertically as well as
[17:12]
horizontally, these systems, um,
[17:16]
but we would then be using this
[17:18]
grant to assess installing one
[17:20]
of these systems at the public
[17:23]
works facility and eligible
[17:25]
expenses through the grant
[17:25]
include
[17:27]
analysis analysis of the
[17:29]
heating and cooling demand of
[17:32]
the building evaluation of
[17:32]
equipment that
[17:34]
s needed, um,
[17:37]
analysis of the geologic
[17:39]
conditions of the site and then
[17:41]
preparation of a financial and
[17:44]
analysis or final report for
[17:47]
the project, so the city has,
[17:48]
um, about 16 weeks to enter
[17:50]
into a contract with a
[17:51]
consultant to lead and
[17:53]
implement the project, um,
[17:53]
we
[17:55]
re currently working on
[17:58]
a request for proposals to go
[18:01]
out to qualified consultants
[18:03]
and contractors for the project.
[18:06]
And, um, no action is needed.
[18:06]
It
[18:08]
s just an update to the
[18:09]
commission.
[18:10]
If there are any questions by
[18:12]
the commission, I can attempt
[18:14]
to answer those at this time as
[18:16]
well.
[18:17]
I
[18:18]
ll just start with a comment,
[18:22]
which is um
[18:24]
we installed this exact type of
[18:26]
system at our house back in
[18:28]
2010, so for 15 years, it
[18:28]
s
[18:30]
both heated and cooled our
[18:31]
house, so we haven
[18:32]
t used
[18:34]
natural gas or any sort of
[18:36]
combustion to, to do that.
[18:37]
And it
[18:38]
s been extremely
[18:40]
reliable and, um,
[18:44]
efficient, low cost, um, the,
[18:46]
the trick is the
[18:48]
that initial drilling of those
[18:50]
of those loops is where the
[18:52]
added cost is or the, the
[18:53]
higher upfront cost, so that
[18:54]
s
[18:54]
kind of what
[18:55]
s cool about this
[18:56]
grant is like,
[18:56]
they
[18:58]
ll
[18:59]
analyze that the economics of
[19:00]
it, the
[19:02]
you know, the effort to drill
[19:03]
those in and everything and
[19:04]
and see if this is something
[19:06]
that makes sense for the city
[19:08]
or not before you just jump
[19:10]
into it. So really happy to
[19:11]
hear that we
[19:12]
were pulled off the waiting
[19:13]
list and
[19:16]
and and got the grant and
[19:18]
I just want to thank staff, um,
[19:20]
coordinator Sreer, but also, um,
[19:21]
public works director Rutzek. I
[19:23]
know you guys put a lot of like
[19:25]
effort into just like
[19:27]
understanding all of this and
[19:29]
talking to to companies that
[19:31]
have expertise to to be able to
[19:32]
submit that grant. So, so thank
[19:33]
you for doing that and it
[19:33]
s,
[19:33]
it
[19:34]
s really great that we got
[19:40]
it.
[19:44]
And congratulations
[19:47]
I have a question about how we
[19:49]
will share those results back
[19:50]
with the city for people who
[19:52]
might be thinking about doing
[19:53]
something like this at home,
[19:55]
and also of course how we
[19:55]
ll
[19:57]
use it as a city going forward?
[20:00]
Is that part of the
[20:01]
plans later once the project
[20:03]
has been implemented and you
[20:05]
have data to talk about. Yes,
[20:06]
uh, thank you, Commissioner s
[20:08]
Sheets for the question. Um,
[20:11]
the report would be posted on
[20:13]
our sustainability page after
[20:15]
the project is complete, um,
[20:16]
for sure, and then along the
[20:17]
way, we
[20:18]
ll be sharing
[20:20]
information as well through the
[20:29]
usual outlets.
[20:32]
Ok, we will move on next to old
[20:35]
business and the first item is
[20:37]
the Shoreland Management
[20:38]
Ordinance Development.
[20:39]
Uh coordinator Sreer, I don
[20:39]
t
[20:40]
know if you want to kick this
[20:41]
off or if you want one of the
[20:42]
committee members to kick it
[20:43]
off.
[20:45]
Uh, thank you, Vice Chair Stein.
[20:49]
I can give some background for
[20:52]
um launching into discussion,
[20:57]
so, um, as, um, an initiative
[20:59]
of the goal One ordinance and
[21:01]
Policy Development Committee,
[21:01]
um, they
[21:03]
re 20, on their 2025
[21:07]
work plan, um, the committee is
[21:09]
exploring and working to
[21:11]
develop a shoreland ordinance
[21:12]
for recommendation of approval
[21:14]
by the city council Currently
[21:15]
the city does not have a
[21:18]
shoreland ordinance, um.
[21:20]
If adopted this, there
[21:21]
s a
[21:26]
placeholder under Title 15
[21:27]
Environmental environmental
[21:32]
standards of city code, um
[21:33]
and the Shoreland ordinance
[21:35]
would uh serve to protect
[21:37]
natural water bodies within the
[21:38]
city that are not already
[21:40]
protected under current city
[21:42]
codes such as we already have a
[21:44]
wetland ordinance, so it would
[21:45]
be water bodies other than
[21:48]
wetlands, um, that would be a
[21:51]
part of this proposed ordinance.
[21:52]
In the past couple of work
[21:55]
sessions, the commission has
[21:56]
briefly discussed the ordinance
[21:58]
and, um, Shoreland ordinances
[22:00]
in general, um, at the JULY
[22:03]
works session. It was briefly
[22:07]
discussed, um, there was a
[22:09]
comment that we need to obtain
[22:11]
more public information on
[22:12]
water bodies within Mendota
[22:15]
Heights, especially Lake
[22:19]
Augusta might pose, uh, a
[22:21]
specific challenge because that
[22:22]
water level
[22:23]
continues to rise since it
[22:24]
s a
[22:28]
landlocked basin, um, so the
[22:30]
established ordinary high water
[22:31]
level, which is usually what
[22:31]
we
[22:33]
re basing setbacks and
[22:35]
regulations on in a shoreland
[22:37]
ordinance would um maybe not be
[22:40]
relevant, um, so, um, that
[22:40]
s
[22:42]
something that we will have to
[22:44]
work out during discussion. I
[22:48]
have reached out to the dnr, um,
[22:51]
to get advice and um
[22:53]
also will possibly be working
[22:55]
with the wmo, um, who
[22:56]
s been
[22:57]
heavily involved in Lake
[22:59]
Augusta as well, um, to get
[23:01]
some input from them, but um
[23:04]
that uh will
[23:07]
possibly pose a challenge and
[23:09]
then also at the JULY work
[23:12]
session, the, um, commission
[23:14]
talked about including
[23:17]
non-public water bodies a
[23:18]
couple of them into the
[23:20]
ordinance ordinance possibly
[23:22]
such as Ivy Falls Creek and
[23:24]
Interstate Valley Creek.
[23:26]
So at this time, the commission
[23:28]
has just asked to continue the
[23:32]
discussion, um, add any
[23:34]
comments into the template or
[23:37]
the draft ordinance, um, that
[23:39]
has been distributed and is in
[23:41]
your packet, um, committee
[23:43]
members go on committee members
[23:47]
have already made some comments,
[23:49]
um, everyone is encouraged to
[23:50]
continue to make comments,
[23:51]
including, um, the commission
[23:53]
as a whole as well, and
[23:59]
suggestions.
[24:00]
And I guess I
[24:01]
ll start out with
[24:03]
a few comments from the
[24:05]
from the ordinance committee,
[24:06]
um.
[24:07]
And you MAY remember some of
[24:09]
this discussion from our work
[24:11]
session, but I guess, I think
[24:12]
the, the view of the committee
[24:16]
so far is that the this
[24:18]
model that the dnr has put
[24:20]
forward is quite comprehensive
[24:21]
and
[24:23]
in my opinion, good
[24:24]
So we
[24:26]
at least in our comments so far,
[24:26]
we
[24:28]
re not really suggesting
[24:30]
too many changes to that other
[24:34]
than they have some suggested
[24:35]
ways to clarify and make it
[24:36]
maybe easier to enforce or
[24:38]
easier for the
[24:40]
for citizens and home builders
[24:42]
and and others to understand,
[24:43]
um, but for the most part, I
[24:44]
think we
[24:44]
re, we
[24:45]
ve been
[24:46]
um,
[24:47]
our read through this whole
[24:48]
thing. It is pretty long and
[24:49]
kind of daunting when you look
[24:52]
at the length of it. Um, but,
[24:53]
but I think it
[24:53]
s quite
[24:55]
comprehensive and and quite
[24:55]
clear. There
[24:57]
s some pictures
[24:58]
and graphics that help you
[24:59]
understand some of the
[25:00]
dimensions, the key dimensions,
[25:00]
that
[25:01]
s good.
[25:02]
Um
[25:04]
I see coordinator Ssreer has, I
[25:06]
guess, put in some of the or
[25:08]
put in the public water bodies
[25:10]
that are in Mendora Heights on
[25:12]
page 21, right?
[25:13]
Which would be Rogers Lake,
[25:16]
Lake Augusta.
[25:20]
Clemey Lake, and Club Lake.
[25:22]
And then on the next page has
[25:24]
added those 22 creeks that that
[25:27]
she mentioned too, so
[25:29]
so again, this would have
[25:31]
applicability.
[25:33]
Only to public water bodies or
[25:35]
if we choose to put
[25:38]
add any to those
[25:38]
Um, that
[25:39]
s what, that
[25:40]
s kind of
[25:41]
a, I think helpful to to
[25:43]
understand I guess what the
[25:54]
applicability of this is.
[25:56]
Just to jump in, um, thank you
[25:58]
for for the
[26:00]
summary. Thank you, uh, to the
[26:02]
whole ordinance and committee
[26:03]
for subcommittee for reviewing
[26:04]
it. I know it
[26:05]
s um, it
[26:05]
s a
[26:07]
heavy lift, so appreciate that
[26:11]
as well. Um, just reflecting on
[26:14]
our JULY session, um
[26:17]
we also said with your
[26:19]
recommendation saying that the
[26:20]
optional text that is in blue,
[26:23]
um, I just want to return to
[26:24]
that. I recall you said that a
[26:27]
lot of those seem also quite
[26:28]
reasonable. Um, so maybe we
[26:28]
could.
[26:31]
Bring those up to speed who
[26:33]
were not there um and just
[26:35]
address those.
[26:38]
The optional text in blue.
[26:46]
And give me comments on those.
[26:47]
Yeah, and there is quite a bit
[26:49]
of
[26:51]
as you kind of flip through
[26:55]
this, um,
[26:58]
it is just a summary
[27:00]
throughout the entire text
[27:02]
there are um sections that are
[27:04]
highlighted in blue, which the
[27:06]
dnr have said are
[27:08]
stipulated as optional. So it
[27:08]
s
[27:08]
something that
[27:09]
s recommended,
[27:10]
but it would go above and
[27:12]
beyond, um, just our
[27:12]
conversation was kind of
[27:15]
looking at what those seem
[27:17]
pretty reasonable, um, so
[27:19]
it sounded like we
[27:19]
d feel
[27:22]
comfortable
[27:23]
um recommending keeping those
[27:24]
optional
[27:26]
texts inside of the document.
[27:26]
Yeah, and I
[27:27]
m trying to find a
[27:28]
good example. Maybe is the best
[27:35]
way to
[27:36]
page 17, there
[27:38]
s a big blue
[27:38]
section that
[27:39]
s kind of has a
[27:41]
line through it, kind of that.
[27:45]
The one I was looking for, um,
[27:47]
was the one related to like
[27:49]
decks where they, there was
[27:51]
some in their basic language,
[27:52]
it says dex.
[27:54]
That are, I think it
[27:54]
s said,
[27:56]
greater than 3 ft.
[27:58]
Above the
[28:00]
the ground line right
[28:01]
And their suggestion was just
[28:03]
like, just for simplicity.
[28:04]
Just make it all
[28:06]
all decks, right
[28:07]
So that
[28:08]
s an example of I that
[28:11]
I think we should just, I think
[28:19]
page 13, page 13
[28:27]
yeah
[28:28]
I, I, I think that we, you know,
[28:29]
that there
[28:29]
s, there are a lot
[28:32]
of them, um
[28:34]
we should definitely include
[28:35]
them for consideration, you
[28:36]
know, the, the ones, probably a
[28:36]
few that don
[28:37]
t quite fit, but.
[28:42]
Yeah.
[28:45]
Um, on page 48,
[28:49]
uh, as we get into a 47, 48, 49,
[28:51]
um, that also provides a lot of
[28:53]
optional types through, uh, and
[28:55]
one thing that another
[28:56]
conversation we had talked and
[28:59]
brought to the table last week,
[29:01]
uh, in the JULY session was
[29:02]
around vegetation and so we
[29:04]
want to make sure to tie our
[29:07]
urban forestry land um
[29:09]
ordinance to this document
[29:09]
because that
[29:10]
s quite a robust
[29:11]
ordinance, so I just want to
[29:13]
make sure to align that, um,
[29:14]
and even
[29:18]
I think.
[29:22]
8.2.4 on page 48, um, we
[29:22]
d even
[29:27]
said maybe that line a 8.2.4, a
[29:29]
vegetation to be maintained.
[29:31]
To screen structures, vehicles,
[29:32]
or other facilities by at least
[29:35]
50% as viewed from the water.
[29:37]
Um, and that was even proposed
[29:39]
in the previous session that
[29:40]
that could be
[29:43]
um
[29:46]
maintained actually at 100% of
[29:47]
uh leaving it be as where it
[29:48]
was.
[29:49]
Um
[29:50]
instead of allowing
[29:52]
any vegetation removal
[29:54]
Do I remember that correctly
[29:56]
from our discussion
[29:58]
Yeah, so to change this by at
[30:00]
least or change the by at least
[30:03]
50% to a higher, that was the
[30:04]
discussion, but that
[30:04]
s
[30:05]
that
[30:07]
s why I bring it here and.
[30:09]
Yeah, so I guess my suggestion,
[30:11]
I guess at this point, because
[30:14]
it is a pretty lengthy
[30:16]
draft is, is
[30:17]
kind of go through those and
[30:19]
yeah, if you see anything like
[30:20]
anything like that,
[30:21]
particularly where we, where
[30:23]
you think
[30:24]
you know, we should be more
[30:25]
stringent
[30:29]
um
[30:30]
yeah, those will be good ones
[30:32]
to like
[30:33]
flag and have some discussion
[30:34]
on, I think. So yeah, Kusher
[30:35]
and McKesson. There
[30:36]
s, there
[30:36]
s
[30:37]
a, a word document or something
[30:38]
where we
[30:39]
re putting in comments,
[30:39]
so.
[30:42]
Um.
[30:44]
That
[30:45]
yeah, I think that
[30:46]
s a good way
[30:49]
to do it. But we also had a
[30:51]
uh Google Doc of some kind.
[30:52]
But I think we
[30:52]
re mostly
[30:54]
operating within them
[30:55]
I forget which one it
[30:55]
s been a
[30:57]
little while, if it
[30:58]
s the Word
[31:00]
document or the Google Doc.
[31:02]
Yes, and, um, if I can just
[31:05]
interject, so the, the ver that
[31:06]
is in your packet is the most
[31:08]
recent version that I have with
[31:10]
comments.
[31:13]
So if commissioners have
[31:15]
additional comments, um, such
[31:16]
as Commissioner t Toing
[31:16]
s
[31:18]
comment. Um, if you can send
[31:20]
those to me in writing so I can
[31:22]
incorporate them in the
[31:23]
document if you don
[31:23]
t, if you
[31:23]
can
[31:24]
t or don
[31:25]
t wanna put, put
[31:27]
them in the document yourself.
[31:29]
Um, so we can make sure to
[31:29]
include everyone
[31:31]
s comments.
[31:32]
For bringing it back to the
[31:34]
group
[31:34]
I
[31:36]
m happy to look back. I think
[31:37]
I also have notes on the
[31:38]
computer from the JULY session,
[31:39]
so I
[31:40]
m happy to review that and
[31:42]
send it over. Thank you.
[31:43]
First
[31:46]
And that is a good point to
[31:47]
make sure we have, I guess,
[31:48]
cross reference our other
[31:49]
ordinances like the Tree
[31:50]
Preservation ordinance, the
[31:51]
other one that
[31:51]
s in here quite
[31:53]
a bit is like impervious
[31:56]
surfaces, which we have uh.
[31:57]
A separate ordinance for that
[31:58]
too. So if that
[31:59]
s
[32:00]
um
[32:00]
yeah, we
[32:01]
ll just have to work
[32:04]
on
[32:05]
um, I guess if that one is more
[32:06]
stringent than some of this,
[32:08]
maybe we just need to provide
[32:12]
reference over to that.
[32:12]
So there
[32:14]
s some more work to be
[32:15]
done there to to see.
[32:18]
How that, how the impervious
[32:20]
surface material in this
[32:21]
ordinance.
[32:22]
Meshes or doesn
[32:22]
t mesh with
[32:22]
what we
[32:23]
ve already.
[32:25]
Adopted
[32:27]
Um
[32:28]
apologies, I
[32:29]
m still new on on
[32:31]
the commission. The name of the
[32:33]
ordinance is called Impervious
[32:35]
Services Ordinance.
[32:36]
You
[32:38]
Uh
[32:41]
I will have to check. I think
[32:45]
if you just um go to our city
[32:46]
code online and put that
[32:49]
keyword in. It will pop up.
[32:53]
Um, I can try to do that.
[32:55]
While you are continuing to
[32:56]
discuss and bring that back to
[32:58]
you, the official.
[33:01]
I have to look it up though.
[33:03]
Committee one subcommittee.
[33:06]
That looking for some of those
[33:07]
those cross reference things
[33:08]
might be a good.
[33:10]
Little effort for us to do.
[33:10]
That
[33:11]
s your assignment the next
[33:14]
time kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
[33:15]
Yeah, and then the other part
[33:17]
of that
[33:17]
yeah, I
[33:18]
m not sure what it
[33:18]
s
[33:18]
called if it
[33:19]
s called
[33:19]
impervious surface, but that
[33:20]
s
[33:20]
really what it covers is if
[33:21]
you
[33:23]
re, but it covers
[33:25]
not just these lots that are
[33:27]
along these public water bodies.
[33:27]
It
[33:29]
s citywide, so it
[33:30]
s how much
[33:33]
you know, of a lot can be
[33:34]
covered by
[33:36]
structure, driveway, sidewalk.
[33:38]
You know, any impervious
[33:39]
surface, so it
[33:41]
s a little more
[33:42]
it
[33:43]
s applicable to more
[33:45]
basically
[33:46]
citywide, whereas this is
[33:48]
applicable to just certain lots
[33:52]
along these water bodies.
[34:00]
Thank you.
[34:02]
And I know this is a long, a
[34:04]
long ordinance, but, um, yeah,
[34:04]
it
[34:05]
s uh
[34:06]
I don
[34:08]
t know any other way than
[34:09]
Canada
[34:10]
to slog through it and to see,
[34:14]
see what comments you have. So.
[34:16]
i think there were a few, and I
[34:17]
slogged through it a couple
[34:18]
months ago, so I
[34:19]
m pulling up
[34:21]
memory. There were a few
[34:22]
sections that were less
[34:24]
applicable to our city. Um, so
[34:24]
that
[34:27]
s also a point where we
[34:28]
can look at removal. Yep,
[34:31]
absolutely.
[34:33]
Commissioner, just in glancing
[34:34]
and reading a little bit. I
[34:36]
mean, it appears that it gets
[34:38]
more specific about, you know,
[34:41]
the impervious, um, surfaces
[34:42]
and trees, that type of thing
[34:43]
as you get deeper into it, and
[34:44]
I appreciate you leaving the
[34:46]
blue sections in there. I think
[34:47]
that makes sense if it doesn
[34:48]
t,
[34:51]
you know, is it redundant or uh
[34:53]
contrary to what else is
[34:54]
written.
[34:55]
In another variants
[34:57]
or something
[34:58]
Coordinatorsrier looks like you
[35:01]
found the
[35:07]
Yeah, so, um, it is 12, Title
[35:10]
124a 6, um, and it
[35:12]
s entitled
[35:13]
Just Impervious surface
[35:17]
Requirements.
[35:18]
Commissioner Caslin
[35:19]
s point, I
[35:22]
think, I think the committee
[35:23]
should
[35:26]
sort of compare this to what
[35:27]
the requirements are in the
[35:29]
shoreland ordinance.
[35:31]
And kind of see which
[35:33]
you know,
[35:35]
if the requirements in this are
[35:36]
all more restrictive than
[35:36]
what
[35:37]
s in this. We could
[35:38]
probably just
[35:39]
provide a cross reference to
[35:51]
this one.
[35:57]
Thank you.
[35:59]
So, any other comments on the
[36:00]
on the ordinance? I know it
[36:00]
s,
[36:01]
it
[36:02]
s kind of long and yeah.
[36:07]
A lot in there, but so
[36:08]
thank you for your work. I
[36:08]
think it
[36:09]
ll be wonderful when
[36:10]
it
[36:12]
s complete.
[36:14]
All right, let
[36:15]
s move on to
[36:18]
um
[36:19]
Interstate Valley Creek
[36:22]
stabilization and bmt.
[36:24]
Bmp project tour coordinators
[36:24]
spreader.
[36:27]
Thank you.
[36:30]
Vice Chair Stein, um, in lieu
[36:32]
of our AUGUST meeting, as you
[36:35]
know, we took a tour of the
[36:37]
recently completed, um,
[36:40]
Interstate Valley Creek
[36:43]
stabilization and bmp project,
[36:47]
um, we made it to all of the uh
[36:49]
areas within the project except
[36:51]
for 11 of the infiltration
[36:55]
basins, um, but just as, uh, a
[36:56]
brief overview again, the
[36:58]
project include
[37:02]
d stabilization of two reaches
[37:04]
of the stream, um
[37:08]
in some re meandering and it
[37:11]
also included installing a weir
[37:15]
to um
[37:18]
um create wetland habitat, um,
[37:21]
so in, in the wetland by the
[37:23]
ballpark, um
[37:25]
so the tour are involved um
[37:27]
seeing all these different
[37:29]
aspects of the project. I just
[37:31]
have some pictures I was gonna
[37:33]
kind of click through. So this
[37:35]
is reach
[37:39]
um one. This was a meandering
[37:41]
and reshaping, um,
[37:43]
stabilization of the stream
[37:48]
Bank, um, where the erosion was
[37:51]
the worst uh throughout the
[37:53]
stream bed. There were over 10
[37:56]
ft vertical banks, so they re
[38:00]
meandered the, the stream to
[38:03]
help with um with
[38:05]
uh, rate and energy dissipating
[38:07]
some of that energy. They also
[38:09]
installed cross beams for
[38:12]
different cross veins and um
[38:14]
stabilize the banks using
[38:16]
bioengineering, so root wads
[38:18]
from trees were taken and
[38:20]
placed in the side of the bank
[38:22]
as well as footer logs, um, to
[38:25]
hold the bank, um, using
[38:27]
natural materials you can see
[38:29]
the vegetation has already
[38:31]
started to fill in quite nicely.
[38:33]
Um
[38:35]
there is another photo of the
[38:37]
same reach, um, this was the
[38:40]
bank that was over 10 ft and
[38:40]
now it
[38:42]
s sloped back at a 3 to
[38:44]
1.
[38:45]
And there
[38:46]
s a photo of the
[38:47]
group.
[38:49]
Cannot reach one. This is a
[38:51]
photo of the weir that was
[38:54]
taken, um, so you can see the
[38:56]
water backing up behind it, um,
[38:58]
this area of the channel was
[39:01]
down cutting quite a bit, and
[39:03]
so historically there was a
[39:05]
weird place, a small weir, um,
[39:07]
placed by the dnr that was
[39:09]
wooden that had failed um.
[39:11]
Quite a few years ago, uh, but
[39:13]
the stream continued to downcut
[39:16]
and no longer flooded its banks
[39:18]
so that it no longer provided
[39:20]
water to the wetland. The
[39:22]
wetland was starting to dry up,
[39:24]
so this brought back a good
[39:25]
amount of hydrology, as you can
[39:27]
see to that wetland. Um, we
[39:27]
ve
[39:29]
noticed a lot of waterfall and
[39:30]
other wildlife, taking
[39:33]
advantage of it as well.
[39:37]
Um, so, uh, next steps for the
[39:41]
project we will be after so
[39:43]
currently, um, the public and,
[39:45]
and everyone has noticed that
[39:47]
Valley Creek Park is under
[39:49]
construction for the river to
[39:50]
river Greenway project, so the
[39:52]
trail is currently torn up.
[39:53]
They
[39:54]
re replacing the bridges,
[39:56]
um, so we are going to wait
[39:59]
until that project is
[40:01]
substantially completed before
[40:03]
doing any more restoration work.
[40:03]
There is more
[40:05]
restoration work to be done,
[40:07]
adding some woody vegetation,
[40:09]
tree plantings, um, with this
[40:10]
project and also with the
[40:12]
Greenway project, um, but we
[40:12]
re
[40:12]
gonna, we
[40:13]
re gonna wait on that
[40:16]
and kind of do it all at once
[40:17]
so that um we don
[40:19]
t risk any
[40:20]
more disturbance to new
[40:22]
plantings.
[40:25]
So that is kind of the, the
[40:27]
next steps for that project, um,
[40:29]
but the Creek project is
[40:31]
substantially complete. Um
[40:33]
minus those two things, um,
[40:35]
plantings of the infiltration
[40:37]
basin will basins will also be
[40:39]
done, um, after completion of
[40:41]
the Greenway project. We did
[40:42]
have an inspection and
[40:45]
walk-through by the Army Corps
[40:49]
of Engineers recently and um
[40:51]
they had only good things to
[40:53]
say, so that was nice to
[40:54]
hear as well and that
[40:55]
s all I
[40:55]
have. It
[40:57]
s just an update for
[40:58]
the commission. The
[40:58]
commission
[41:00]
s willing to or
[41:02]
welcome to comment, but um, no
[41:05]
action needed.
[41:06]
Any comments from commissioners,
[41:08]
I guess especially
[41:09]
from seeing it in person, which
[41:11]
was great.
[41:14]
Last month, the impressions are
[41:16]
the comments
[41:18]
Just, just that it
[41:20]
really came together quickly in
[41:22]
a lot of good work got done for
[41:23]
it seemed like not a whole lot
[41:25]
of budget, so
[41:27]
the project
[41:29]
That was just
[41:31]
yeah, just see it in person. I
[41:33]
was just really impressed like
[41:36]
this weird location here, um.
[41:37]
Just the amount of
[41:39]
water that stores in a big like
[41:41]
rain event and can control the
[41:42]
velocity of, you know,
[41:45]
of the water
[41:46]
you know, going down that
[41:49]
stream and causing so much
[41:50]
erosion, coordinator Schreer
[41:51]
has mentioned, you know, the
[41:52]
waterfowl that she
[41:52]
s starting
[41:54]
to see in this sort of
[41:55]
replenished wetland now that
[41:56]
because it had pretty much
[41:58]
dried out, correct, you know,
[41:59]
from the
[42:00]
from the elevation I guess of
[42:02]
the creek being
[42:05]
being kind of like
[42:07]
um, going down, so it kind of
[42:08]
drained this whole wetland area.
[42:09]
So
[42:10]
um,
[42:12]
yeah, just to really impressive
[42:12]
project and it
[42:13]
s really to me
[42:15]
really satisfying because we do
[42:16]
a lot of plans and natural
[42:17]
resources management plan and
[42:19]
the partners and Energy plan
[42:20]
and just to see.
[42:21]
See the fruits of that labor
[42:23]
kind of come.
[42:26]
Come to life is really cool. So.
[42:26]
I
[42:28]
d say I was very impressed by
[42:30]
the project, um, and I think
[42:30]
it
[42:32]
d be really, um
[42:34]
satisfying for a lot of
[42:36]
residents to know kind of what
[42:36]
was before and what
[42:37]
s after,
[42:37]
and I maybe we
[42:38]
ve talked about
[42:39]
this at our tour, but if
[42:39]
there
[42:40]
s even some kind of a
[42:42]
placard with pictures that
[42:43]
could be put up to say this is
[42:44]
how it used to look, this is
[42:46]
how it looks now, and educating
[42:47]
about what was done and why it
[42:48]
was done for the local
[42:51]
community because it is such a
[42:52]
heavily used area trail, you
[42:53]
know, once all the trail is
[42:54]
completed and so forth. I think
[42:55]
that would could be really
[42:57]
beneficial to the community in
[42:59]
terms of education and just
[43:04]
knowledge.
[43:05]
I agree because there
[43:05]
s like
[43:07]
this the even is, is a little
[43:08]
bit hidden and it
[43:08]
s like
[43:09]
there
[43:09]
s so much good work that
[43:11]
was done here and I just, that
[43:12]
was one
[43:14]
one thing I was leaving the
[43:16]
field visit with is like I wish
[43:18]
more, just more citizens from
[43:19]
the city could could see what
[43:20]
was done here because it was
[43:22]
really a great project.
[43:25]
I
[43:26]
also left thinking a lot about
[43:27]
that. Um, it
[43:28]
s a really neat
[43:30]
project. The scale is hard to
[43:35]
see in pictures, this weir is
[43:37]
massive project and we
[43:38]
ll make
[43:41]
a large difference to the
[43:44]
water flow in that area and as
[43:45]
a neighbor who walks through
[43:48]
this area all the time. Um, I
[43:49]
know that the Greenway project
[43:51]
is going to be much more felt
[43:52]
by people. It
[43:52]
ll be, it
[43:53]
s
[43:54]
experience as you
[43:55]
re walking on
[43:57]
the paths and you see that
[44:01]
but I, I do hope the visible
[44:03]
parts can be appreciated. And
[44:04]
so I do think there
[44:05]
s
[44:07]
storytelling that, um, our
[44:08]
committee can help in thinking
[44:11]
about how do we help share this
[44:12]
in a way that
[44:14]
helps people understand why
[44:18]
this was important and um how
[44:19]
it will be
[44:21]
seen for many years to come in
[44:22]
in the different
[44:25]
ways that it continues to grow,
[44:28]
especially the plantings which
[44:30]
already the wildflower and one
[44:32]
of the areas near the stream
[44:33]
where
[44:34]
already quite lovely and it
[44:34]
ll
[44:37]
be fun to see the native
[44:38]
plantings and trees as they
[44:42]
continued to grow to.
[44:44]
One other comment I would make
[44:46]
is, you can see from being out
[44:48]
there just sort of the pressure
[44:50]
of all the invasive species
[44:52]
coming at it from all
[44:53]
directions, and that
[44:54]
s why I
[44:54]
think
[44:55]
I, I
[44:56]
m proud of our commission
[44:57]
that we
[44:57]
ve we
[44:58]
ve been
[44:59]
supportive of
[45:02]
of
[45:03]
maintenance funding to, you
[45:04]
know, once he
[45:05]
s
[45:06]
once the areas like the
[45:08]
infiltration basins are, are,
[45:10]
are seeded and planted with
[45:14]
native native plantings that we
[45:16]
really prioritize maintaining
[45:17]
those areas and kind of holding
[45:18]
them.
[45:18]
Because they
[45:19]
re under a lot of
[45:20]
a lot of pressure if you
[45:21]
re not
[45:23]
kind of constantly vigilant. So
[45:23]
I think that
[45:24]
s something that
[45:26]
the commission has really
[45:27]
been supportive of, and I think
[45:27]
I
[45:34]
m proud of that and I think
[45:35]
Any other comments before we
[45:37]
move on? Thank you.
[45:39]
And next item on the agenda,
[45:41]
our staff announcements.
[45:42]
Coordinator Sreer.
[45:47]
Thank you. Um, Vice Chair Stein,
[45:50]
um, one of my, or I guess my
[45:54]
only announcement is um that we
[45:58]
have posted uh a opening for a
[46:01]
new student commissioner on um
[46:04]
our commission, um, very, again,
[46:07]
very appreciative and impressed
[46:09]
by the work that um student
[46:11]
commissioner Trudeau had done,
[46:15]
she was with us for 2 years.
[46:19]
Um, and so it has um moved on
[46:21]
and, and we
[46:21]
ll be a senior this
[46:23]
year and has been busy with all
[46:26]
things senior. And so, um, we
[46:27]
are looking for a new student
[46:30]
commissioner, um, the posting
[46:35]
is on our website and um
[46:37]
um, you can go, uh, or
[46:38]
interested students can go
[46:40]
there to look for the
[46:42]
application. They can also stop
[46:46]
by City Hall, uh, the term runs
[46:50]
from OCTOBER 25th to AUGUST
[46:51]
26th, or I
[46:52]
m sorry.
[46:54]
The month of OCTOBER of 2025
[46:57]
through AUGUST of 2026. Um, it
[47:00]
is open to all high school
[47:04]
students in grades 9 through 12
[47:06]
and um student commissioners
[47:08]
serve as non-voting members of
[47:10]
the commission, um, but very
[47:12]
valuable members and that they
[47:13]
provide a youth and student
[47:15]
perspective, um, to the
[47:17]
commission.
[47:20]
So any interested students
[47:23]
should submit the student
[47:25]
commissioner application, um,
[47:29]
which is different than the um.
[47:34]
The adult, um, or non-student
[47:35]
application, um, but submitting
[47:38]
that to the city by 10 A.M. On
[47:41]
SEPTEMBER 19th. So I encourage
[47:41]
anyone that
[47:42]
s interested to
[47:45]
apply or if, um, anyone knows
[47:46]
someone that would be a good
[47:49]
fit, encourage them to apply as
[47:51]
well, please, and that is all I
[47:51]
have.
[47:55]
Thank you
[47:58]
Hey, next item is commission
[48:00]
comments.
[48:02]
Any comments from the
[48:03]
commissioners on any other
[48:05]
any other items
[48:07]
ok, hearing none. Let
[48:07]
s go to
[48:10]
committee reports
[48:12]
um, Committee one is ordinance
[48:13]
and Policy development, which
[48:13]
we
[48:15]
ve, I think already covered.
[48:17]
Anything else we need to, I
[48:17]
mean, we
[48:18]
re
[48:18]
we
[48:20]
re pretty much just on that
[48:21]
Shoreland ordinance right now
[48:23]
um
[48:24]
but we will, yeah, we
[48:25]
ll kind
[48:26]
of tackle some of those where
[48:28]
they overlap with some of our
[48:29]
other ordinances maybe as a
[48:30]
next step for the for the
[48:33]
committee.
[48:34]
Um, Committee to Education and
[48:38]
Outreach.
[48:38]
We
[48:39]
ve not met recently, but we
[48:42]
will be meeting soon to discuss
[48:44]
the um tea
[48:48]
the hole in one project trick
[48:51]
or teeing project and the
[48:52]
valley.
[48:54]
Park project we should talk
[48:55]
about that. And I would also
[48:58]
say um just as part of the
[48:58]
commission because it
[48:58]
s
[48:59]
outreach and education, I think
[49:01]
it would also be a lovely thing
[49:03]
to hear from the public or on
[49:05]
what they would like to see
[49:06]
more from our commission, um,
[49:07]
and really create a good
[49:09]
channel of communications so we
[49:10]
can gather your
[49:11]
priorities as well and bring
[49:14]
that back to
[49:16]
the natural resources
[49:18]
commission. So please public
[49:19]
engagement, we like to hear
[49:20]
from you.
[49:23]
Ok, um, committee 3 urban
[49:27]
forestry and restoration
[49:29]
um, we, we MAY meet
[49:31]
tomorrow to, to discuss the
[49:33]
planning by the stormwater pond
[49:37]
at the Mendota village, um,
[49:37]
that
[49:38]
s to be determined, but,
[49:39]
um
[49:40]
we
[49:40]
ll, we
[49:41]
re due for a meeting
[49:42]
soon, so.
[49:44]
Uh, and maybe looking at some
[49:45]
fall planting.
[49:46]
That
[49:48]
s good. Um, Committee 4 is
[49:50]
strategic planning.
[49:51]
Um, so we
[49:52]
ve had a busy year,
[49:54]
uh, because
[49:54]
we
[49:55]
ve got two line items on our
[49:59]
work plan. One is Valley Park
[50:02]
to create a site-specific
[50:04]
strategic plan for Valley Park.
[50:04]
Um, so we
[50:05]
ve been very
[50:06]
fortunate to come to bring all
[50:08]
of the stakeholders together in
[50:09]
the last month, so that was the
[50:13]
wmo, um, and Dakota County and
[50:15]
be able to do site visits as
[50:17]
well with coordinator Sreer, um,
[50:19]
to really get an idea of all of
[50:21]
the different projects and the
[50:22]
timelines because there are
[50:22]
there
[50:23]
s a lot going on and
[50:23]
there
[50:24]
s a lot of overlap
[50:25]
between the different
[50:28]
organizations. Um, so we
[50:29]
decided we met with all the
[50:31]
stakeholders a couple of months
[50:33]
ago decided that it was helpful
[50:34]
to meet again, so we
[50:34]
ll plan to
[50:36]
do that, uh
[50:37]
at the in DECEMBER at the end
[50:41]
of the year, um, with hopefully
[50:43]
an updated gis file with all of
[50:46]
the most recent um
[50:47]
updates on, on the different
[50:48]
projects.
[50:51]
So that has been great to kind
[50:52]
of
[50:53]
bring everybody together and
[50:56]
get a really uh aligned on that
[50:59]
park, the current status, um
[51:01]
and we also decided that it
[51:05]
makes sense to delay the sites
[51:07]
specific natural resources
[51:09]
management plan for Valley Park
[51:11]
until after all of this work,
[51:12]
um, comes down and settles down.
[51:15]
Uh, so we looked at delaying
[51:18]
that until 2026, 2027, um, so
[51:18]
in the meantime, we
[51:19]
ll just
[51:22]
continue the updates with the
[51:24]
stakeholder groups, um, and
[51:25]
then keep an eye on, of course,
[51:27]
as you mentioned, invasives.
[51:27]
It
[51:29]
s like a ongoing battle
[51:31]
against, um, invasive, so just
[51:33]
keeping an eye on that as well
[51:35]
and coordinator Sreer has been
[51:36]
great about keeping us updated
[51:38]
on the
[51:40]
vegetation situation.
[51:42]
Um, yeah, so that is Valley
[51:45]
Park, the 2nd point on our work
[51:47]
plan is exploring potential
[51:50]
funding sources and so we have
[51:53]
looked at um as mentioned in a
[51:54]
previous meeting, the climate
[51:56]
action planning grant, um.
[51:58]
And in our last meeting
[52:00]
yesterday, we also started
[52:01]
discussing other potentials, um,
[52:03]
but important is also to make
[52:04]
sure that we have a good idea
[52:05]
of what we
[52:06]
re wanting to, what
[52:07]
kind of projects we
[52:07]
re wanting
[52:10]
to fund. Um, so very happy to
[52:11]
also open that up to the wider
[52:14]
group as well. Um, as we move
[52:20]
into planning for 2026.
[52:22]
And Commissioner Tony, the
[52:23]
the climate action planning
[52:25]
grant you mentioned, is that?
[52:27]
Is that out or have a deadline
[52:28]
or it
[52:28]
s, it
[52:29]
s still been
[52:29]
released yet. Ok, hasn
[52:30]
t been
[52:32]
released yet. Ok.
[52:35]
Ok. Thank you for that update.
[52:38]
Um, the sustainability
[52:39]
committee, um, I think we
[52:39]
re
[52:40]
going to play our video that
[52:42]
was produced by Town Square,
[52:43]
but I guess I
[52:43]
ll just mention
[52:44]
before that.
[52:45]
We are
[52:48]
kind of in the initial stages
[52:50]
of, um, so Commissioner Kosland
[52:52]
is the other commissioner on
[52:54]
this, on this committee, and
[52:54]
we
[52:55]
ve had some initial
[52:57]
discussions with coordinator
[52:59]
Sreer on possibly some more
[53:00]
direct outreach with the
[53:01]
businesses to try to get the
[53:03]
businesses more um engaged in
[53:04]
this work and maybe it
[53:04]
s going
[53:05]
to take
[53:08]
yeah, some more kind of like.
[53:10]
Face to face interaction. So
[53:12]
just some discussion going on
[53:12]
there
[53:15]
um
[53:16]
the little background on this
[53:19]
video, which has been, um, I
[53:21]
think was finalized in JULY, I
[53:23]
believe, and was put on Town
[53:23]
Square
[53:24]
s website, the city
[53:25]
s
[53:28]
website, uh social media feeds
[53:29]
and uh so if you didn
[53:29]
t see
[53:30]
that, it
[53:31]
s just a few minutes
[53:31]
long, so we
[53:32]
re going to go
[53:34]
ahead and play that.
[53:36]
Thank you, um, Vice Schstein,
[53:38]
as, as you
[53:39]
ve mentioned, who
[53:42]
was done um by Town Square uh
[53:47]
tv as an insight 7 story, so,
[53:51]
and it was um filmed at
[53:52]
uh, Vice Chair Stein
[53:54]
s home, um,
[53:56]
so I will, it
[53:57]
s only a few
[53:58]
minutes long, but I will play
[54:00]
it.
[54:01]
Sustainable future
[54:03]
They
[54:04]
of our advisory
[54:04]
so.
[54:05]
The
[54:06]
suit
[54:09]
and they
[54:11]
natural resources directive,
[54:12]
everything from
[54:13]
physical energy
[54:15]
poetry, surface water.
[54:17]
In 2024, the commission
[54:19]
collaborated with Excel Energy
[54:19]
on the
[54:21]
partners and Energy
[54:22]
Tell Energy Purpose Energy
[54:23]
Program. It
[54:23]
s a program that
[54:25]
excels to develop.
[54:27]
To offer our cities who are
[54:29]
interested in developing and
[54:31]
implementing customized energy
[54:33]
action plans, and the process
[54:35]
that we use for that is we
[54:38]
partner with a local
[54:39]
stakeholders and community
[54:42]
leaders to identify the energy
[54:43]
holes, city is interested in
[54:45]
achieving. And then we actually
[54:47]
develop an actionable plan that
[54:48]
will achieve those goals.
[54:51]
For the energy action team made
[54:53]
up of residents, commissioners.
[54:55]
We even had some students, uh,
[54:57]
city staff to form this action
[54:58]
plan and
[55:00]
on that we came up with 3 goals
[55:03]
from the Sydney, saving energy,
[55:05]
obviously, cost savings as well,
[55:09]
and then reducing emissions
[55:10]
residents, you save the city
[55:12]
money, hopefully for businesses
[55:14]
within the o to to, to save
[55:15]
them money as well.
[55:15]
The city
[55:17]
s Energy action plan
[55:20]
calls for saving $1.6 million
[55:22]
in energy costs and avoiding
[55:24]
9000 metric tons of carbon
[55:25]
dioxide equivalent of
[55:27]
greenhouse gas emissions by
[55:28]
2030. The approach, I think
[55:29]
we
[55:30]
ve taken here at our house
[55:30]
is like we
[55:31]
ve really looked for
[55:33]
things that will just save us
[55:34]
money because all of us have
[55:36]
better things to spend money on
[55:38]
than utility bills, right?
[55:39]
Natural Resources Commissioner
[55:41]
Will Stein has been making
[55:43]
gradual upgrades toward energy
[55:45]
efficiency around his home.
[55:46]
Convenience of just not having
[55:47]
to go get gas, not having to
[55:49]
get oil changes. Over several
[55:51]
years, the Steins have upgraded
[55:52]
to an electric car, electric
[55:54]
lawn care tools, the lawn mower
[55:54]
just takes, it
[55:55]
s the same
[55:57]
battery, but it just takes one.
[55:58]
An induction stove preheats up
[55:59]
the
[56:01]
pan or the contents of the pan,
[56:02]
so they do need to be like.
[56:04]
Stainless steel or whatever. A
[56:06]
heat pump dryer, so instead of,
[56:09]
you know, burning natural gas
[56:11]
or electric resistance heat to
[56:13]
create heat. It again uses heat
[56:15]
pump technology and more. So
[56:15]
we
[56:16]
ve done a lot of upgrades,
[56:16]
but we haven
[56:17]
t done them like
[56:20]
all in like one time just like
[56:20]
they
[56:21]
ve been really stretched
[56:24]
out over 1517 years now.
[56:25]
Mendota Heights residents can
[56:28]
qualify for home energy squad
[56:29]
visits through xl. So they were
[56:31]
here at our house for about 2.5
[56:33]
hours. Shortly after that, they
[56:34]
send you a nice written report
[56:36]
that summarizes everything, the
[56:38]
recommendations, potential
[56:39]
incentives and rebates that are
[56:41]
out there available if you
[56:41]
re
[56:42]
looking at, at, at doing one of
[56:44]
the upgrades too. That would be
[56:45]
the first step I would take if
[56:46]
you want to get more involved
[56:48]
with this effort because they
[56:50]
do a lot of the work for you if
[56:50]
you
[56:51]
ve got inefficient lighting
[56:52]
or other things, they
[56:53]
ll just
[56:54]
go in and replace those things
[56:54]
for you if it
[56:55]
s with your
[56:57]
permission, obviously.
[56:58]
Opportunities for businesses
[57:00]
are also available through
[57:01]
Partners and Energy, and those
[57:03]
might be in the areas of energy
[57:05]
efficient programs that they
[57:06]
can participate in and they
[57:07]
might be able to participate in
[57:09]
renewable programs. Some
[57:11]
companies have renewable goals,
[57:13]
and we can help assist them in
[57:14]
terms of how they meet those
[57:15]
renewable goals.
[57:16]
Residents and businesses can
[57:18]
learn more about partners and
[57:19]
energy opportunities, including
[57:21]
cost saving programs on the
[57:21]
city
[57:22]
s website.
[57:23]
You know, there
[57:23]
s different
[57:24]
levels of people
[57:25]
s, I guess,
[57:26]
interest in environmental
[57:27]
issues and things like that,
[57:27]
and to me that
[57:28]
s not even the
[57:29]
critical issue. I think if you
[57:31]
just focus on
[57:33]
the improvements that are going
[57:35]
to save you money, make your
[57:36]
life more convenient if you
[57:38]
implement those things.
[57:40]
A lot of the rest of the
[57:42]
benefits will come along for
[57:43]
the ride. For Insight 7, this
[57:49]
is Carmen Haw.
[57:51]
Yeah, so they really took a lot
[57:53]
of video and took a lot of
[57:56]
comments. So kudos to Town
[57:58]
Square tv for putting all that
[57:59]
together and uh
[58:01]
a short but
[58:03]
I think I just think they did a
[58:04]
really nice job putting all
[58:05]
that together, so
[58:07]
Thanks for letting him into
[58:10]
your house.
[58:13]
And I think you also, um,
[58:14]
highlight the point that not
[58:16]
everybody is motivated from the
[58:19]
natural resources side, but the
[58:22]
financial side is a very
[58:24]
important factor to take into
[58:24]
consideration.
[58:25]
Yeah, and in addition to that,
[58:27]
I would add just some of the
[58:30]
convenience of these like.
[58:32]
VVs are the best example. It
[58:35]
just saves you a lot of chores
[58:36]
for like that
[58:37]
s what I like
[58:37]
about some of that. It
[58:38]
s just
[58:39]
like simplifies your life and
[58:41]
and, uh, yeah, it
[58:42]
s
[58:43]
definitely worth looking into
[58:44]
some of these things, so.
[58:46]
Um
[58:46]
so that
[58:48]
s all for committee
[58:51]
reports, um.
[58:51]
And that
[58:53]
s the last thing on
[58:56]
our agenda. Is there a motion
[58:58]
to adjourn. So motion to
[58:59]
adjourn by Commissioner
[59:01]
McCaslin. Is there a second???
[59:03]
22 by Commissioner Dahl. All in
[59:04]
favor say aye. And we are