[1:48] sent the changes. We were all going to

[1:51] talk about that. I sent those to Terry

[1:52] and a few other folks to get their their

[1:55] feedback.

[1:57] And um I'm just curious if you guys have

[2:00] feedback as well or would you like to

[2:02] hear Terry's first and we can do his

[2:06] event at the same time? What I hear to

[2:09] hear a user.

[2:10] >> Yeah, I would love to hear from people

[2:11] that are going to use it.

[2:12] >> Yeah. Go ahead, Terry.

[2:13] >> I mean, the changes that you proposed to

[2:15] me, you know, seems great. I mean, it's

[2:17] more efficient for you guys to not have

[2:19] to deal with the same old thing and take

[2:20] time and as an event planner, too, to

[2:23] not have to go through that, you know,

[2:24] form every year. Um, or an abbreviated

[2:27] version of it would be great. Yeah,

[2:29] >> nothing really changes in our event

[2:31] premier year unless um there's a traffic

[2:34] change which we could alert one to cuz

[2:36] one year the uh the bridges out on

[2:39] school street changed our course

[2:41] >> right

[2:42] >> you know but that other than that I

[2:43] don't think I've changed anything over

[2:44] the years um co it changed too obviously

[2:48] >> right

[2:49] >> um but uh from year to year it's just

[2:51] pretty much the same thing so it's a lot

[2:54] easier it's sort of an assumed thing

[2:56] that typically lesser

[2:59] There should be a clause there that says

[3:00] if there's any major change,

[3:03] >> you know, you need to be alerted.

[3:05] >> Yep, I do have that in there.

[3:07] >> Any major changes to the event would

[3:09] require the organizer to resubmit a

[3:11] special event permit

[3:13] >> and seek approval from the select board.

[3:15] >> Yeah, sounds good.

[3:16] >> Um, I know David had a concern at the

[3:19] last meeting about whether or not um we

[3:22] would be doing a disservice to the event

[3:24] and not putting you in front of the

[3:25] select board and getting a little bit

[3:27] more promotion or communication. So, any

[3:32] concerns about that?

[3:33] >> Um, yeah, I I guess you know that is a

[3:36] valid point, but I I think that the

[3:38] event

[3:39] >> I'm I'm not concerned about it for my

[3:40] event. I don't know if other event

[3:43] >> Yeah.

[3:43] >> planners have expressed that. Uh, we

[3:46] tend to get the word out with our email

[3:48] list, with Facebook, with um, you know,

[3:51] word of mouth, with Next Door. Um I'm

[3:55] not so sure that uh the select board

[3:57] meeting is is a major form of getting

[4:00] the word out and getting the public in

[4:02] this. You know, it was something to

[4:04] consider. For sure.

[4:05] >> Well, we can certainly put it under

[4:07] announcements

[4:09] >> and we can also put it on the website

[4:11] too so that we're at least talking about

[4:13] it.

[4:14] >> Yeah. Okay.

[4:14] >> Um that's one thought. Any other

[4:17] questions or comments from

[4:20] >> No, I was just looking through the

[4:21] application. It is very lengthy. If

[4:23] you're going to do it every single year

[4:24] and you're just changing it, it's it's

[4:26] something that I would support

[4:30] those that are going to have events

[4:32] yearly, which we have half a dozen or

[4:34] more that we

[4:37] um streamline the system for them

[4:39] because we've got all the information at

[4:41] one time unless like you said something

[4:43] changes.

[4:43] >> Yeah. But if uh if there's an event

[4:46] coming up, it is best if you come in and

[4:49] say, "Hey, we got this event coming up."

[4:51] And you got to fill out the paperwork,

[4:52] but as a free advertisement kind of

[4:54] thing for through the uh select board, I

[4:56] think that would be

[4:58] >> uh an outstanding thing to do. So, um I

[5:01] agree this is a long process. Uh I was

[5:03] just looking through all the pages and

[5:05] that and if you're doing it every single

[5:07] year, I mean, you could just rubber

[5:09] stamp it most of the time.

[5:12] So I we will be discussing this a little

[5:14] bit later too on

[5:16] >> I'd like to just if you guys are okay

[5:18] with it I'd like to just do it now so

[5:19] that we could in fact um cuz we were

[5:22] talking last time about entertaining

[5:24] doing Terry's as the first one

[5:28] >> and I can um in talking with Becky and

[5:30] Andrea I can put it as a condition on

[5:33] this particular application. So that

[5:35] would take care of that need. Um, but I

[5:39] just wanted to make and I wanted to make

[5:41] sure that each person who has to go

[5:43] through this feels okay with it. The

[5:46] original suggestion came from Bob Henry

[5:48] when we were talking last fall. So, um,

[5:52] >> again, just just going through the whole

[5:53] thing as far as doing that. I I think if

[5:55] you're uh going to be here annually that

[5:59] unless something drastically changes, we

[6:01] should have u uh simplify the forms for that kind of application. If you're

[6:07] new, you you fill out the full

[6:09] application. If you're not and you're

[6:11] just you would just be amending the

[6:14] application with a new date and unless

[6:17] circumstances change.

[6:18] >> Yeah. Maybe like if it was a onepage

[6:20] form that check box is like something's

[6:22] changed, saying that just alerted that

[6:25] still happening.

[6:26] >> And again, it would be

[6:28] >> a little bit of an advertising. I guess

[6:29] if there's just a one page kind of

[6:31] >> Yeah. And again,

[6:33] uh, probably a week or so before we'd

[6:35] like to have some representative come

[6:37] from whoever it is just to speak at, you

[6:40] know, what it is. Again, people probably

[6:42] know, but just to get it out there.

[6:45] >> Sure.

[6:45] >> So,

[6:46] >> yeah. So,

[6:47] >> if you want to.

[6:48] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[6:49] >> Well, yeah.

[6:50] >> It's not a bad idea. It doesn't take

[6:52] much time. It's on my way home from

[6:53] work. So,

[6:54] >> yeah. And with this as far as

[6:56] >> I'm thinking on things like this um we

[6:59] could do the announcements possibly at

[7:00] the beginning of the meeting just as a

[7:02] regular like review of what's going on

[7:04] in Northfield to be a little bit more

[7:06] community focused

[7:09] um on our announcements. A lot of times

[7:11] it's, you know, certain deadlines and

[7:13] things like that, but we do want to be

[7:15] promoting like what the recreation,

[7:16] especially all the recreation

[7:19] >> things like this past weekend was so

[7:22] loaded. And I guess um also Misha said

[7:25] that there was so much going on that she

[7:27] couldn't because of the rain reschedule

[7:29] the dog show because there's so much

[7:31] going on in Northfield.

[7:33] >> Um so this is a policy change. we can

[7:36] work on the um Becky had some ideas on

[7:38] what would make sense for her too. I

[7:40] want to make sure that it works for the

[7:42] town administrative assistant. I think

[7:44] as long as we're okay with the concept

[7:48] of that it would be approved for

[7:50] multiple years. I'm just assuming three,

[7:52] but I needed your feedback on that. And

[7:55] I'm also assuming I I wrote in here that

[7:57] the event organizer, so in this case,

[8:00] Terry and and others from Monster Dash

[8:04] must continue to notify and coordinate

[8:06] with the town administrative assistant,

[8:08] police chief, EMS chief, fire chief,

[8:10] highway superintendent and

[8:12] superintendent, I mean sewer

[8:14] superintendent in a timely manner. So

[8:17] your application would basically remain

[8:19] the same, but your um

[8:21] >> communication,

[8:21] >> you would still do the communication and

[8:23] coordination. So, yeah.

[8:27] >> Anything else?

[8:29] >> No.

[8:29] >> Okay. Are you guys okay with this

[8:31] change? And then, um, Becky and Andrea

[8:34] can work. Mostly Becky can work on the

[8:36] details. We could even put some of this.

[8:38] Do you have any thoughts, Becky? I know

[8:40] we could do an online um, you know,

[8:43] we've streamlined another form and we

[8:45] could put it online, too. That would be

[8:47] easier. And then it just mails it into

[8:49] the town administrative assistant.

[8:51] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[8:53] Okay. All right. Um

[8:58] Bernie, do you have any thoughts? Are

[8:59] you okay with the policy?

[9:02] >> Yeah, I think it's fine.

[9:03] >> Okay. Shane, are you okay with the

[9:05] policy? Um, so are we seeing three years

[9:07] then?

[9:08] >> That seems to be the the time span that

[9:11] we use for most everything.

[9:12] >> Yeah, like policy review and all of

[9:14] that. Yeah. Okay. So, we'll just fit

[9:17] that into like our policy review

[9:18] schedule, too.

[9:20] >> There.

[9:20] >> You only see us every 3 years.

[9:24] Not unless you want to come. [laughter]

[9:26] >> You can come in and crash anytime. Okay.

[9:29] So, I'll entertain a motion to approve

[9:32] the changes to the special event permit

[9:35] policy and we'll see what we come back

[9:38] with for um streamlining the application

[9:40] going forward. We'll leave that in

[9:42] Becky's capable hands.

[9:45] >> So, move.

[9:46] >> Seconded.

[9:46] >> All those in favor?

[9:47] >> I I

[9:49] >> Terry's in favor too. So, um, on to the

[9:52] actual events.

[9:53] >> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve the

[9:57] Northfield Monster-5K.

[10:00] It's on

[10:02] October 4th, 2026 from 7 a.m.

[10:05] >> 24th.

[10:06] >> Oh, 24th. That's right.

[10:09] >> Near October 4th here. Okay.

[10:11] >> October 24th 24th.

[10:14] >> All right.

[10:14] >> Thank you. That's what I get for reading

[10:16] that instead of this. on the 24th from

[10:20] 7:00 am till noon

[10:24] um waving the fees as they're a

[10:26] >> nonprofit

[10:28] >> and this and with the condition that

[10:30] this would be good for 3 years according

[10:32] to the new policy.

[10:33] >> Yep.

[10:34] >> Okay.

[10:34] >> Second.

[10:35] >> All those in favor?

[10:36] >> I

[10:38] >> thank you.

[10:39] Hope to see uh hope to see

[10:41] you guys there dressed up maybe

[10:45] >> certainly be there supporting. Yeah, you

[10:47] can bike, you can walk or

[10:49] >> volunteer or volunteer.

[10:52] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you need

[10:53] volunteers, too.

[10:54] >> Always. Yeah.

[10:55] >> Oh, okay.

[10:56] >> Yeah. Yeah. The church is getting

[10:58] smaller and smaller. Uh so it's hard to

[11:01] get enough volunteers sometimes. So

[11:03] yeah.

[11:04] >> Okay. So we'll put that out there there

[11:05] that see that's the kind of thing that

[11:07] we would put in the announcements like

[11:08] if you're and if anything if you want to

[11:11] put anything on the website, talk to

[11:12] Becky as well. We'll put a little

[11:14] announcement and send it out.

[11:16] >> Okay.

[11:16] >> Yeah. Cool.

[11:18] >> Great. Thank you.

[11:19] >> Thank you.

[11:21] Awesome.

[11:24] » Okay. No. Trinity Solar. Um

[11:28] Tom, you want to come up?

[11:32] We'll get going with you sooner rather

[11:34] than later.

[11:41] » Hello.

[11:42] How's it going?

[11:44] >> Good.

[11:45] >> Any um first of all, anything going on

[11:47] like weatherwise? Well, we know there's

[11:49] weather going on, but anything uh I

[11:52] always think of you when when there's

[11:53] weather. [laughter]

[11:55] >> Nothing exciting going on.

[11:57] >> No. And we know winter's coming. So,

[12:00] yeah. Okay.

[12:00] >> Dreading it, but we know what's coming.

[12:02] >> Yes. Yes. All right. Where would you

[12:04] like to start? [clears throat]

[12:06] >> Whatever you want.

[12:08] You can do projects that we've done or

[12:11] >> Sure. I mean, a lot of stuff that we've

[12:14] done, we of course everybody knows

[12:16] Highland a all that area was paid,

[12:18] >> right?

[12:19] >> We still got a little a few more issues

[12:21] here or there. Uh there's a water line

[12:23] issue up there that I'm hoping they get

[12:25] fixed.

[12:26] >> Oh, where about

[12:27] >> right by the golf course? It's been

[12:29] leaking for a year.

[12:30] >> Okay.

[12:31] >> That's the one that let go a while ago.

[12:33] One of them.

[12:34] >> Yeah, it's a water shut off. They I

[12:36] don't know why they haven't dug it up.

[12:38] It's getting worse. So, I've emailed

[12:40] them and contacted them because it's

[12:43] starting to wash out into the road. The

[12:44] water's out in the road every morning

[12:46] now. So, I mean, it's just going to be a

[12:47] nice problem come winter time. Before it

[12:50] kind of stayed off the side of the road,

[12:52] I think it's cuz everything.

[12:56] Um, we still got one more swale to do on

[13:01] Burnham Road from the paving up there.

[13:04] We're trying to get caught up this week

[13:05] on that.

[13:08] uh several coverts all around town that

[13:10] have either collapsed or in the verge of

[13:13] collapsing. We replaced. We still got

[13:14] more to do with the weather holds out.

[13:18] Uh the big project on War Road that we

[13:20] were going to do, we put on hold because

[13:22] we had a bunch of rain the week we were

[13:24] supposed to start.

[13:26] And the water department still doesn't

[13:28] have

[13:30] they had a contractor. They had some of

[13:33] the pipe. They didn't have I don't think

[13:35] everything. So, they put it on hold till

[13:39] next summer. The permits are good for 3

[13:41] years.

[13:42] >> I'm hoping the water department I think

[13:45] they were talking about getting all the

[13:46] stuff now so they have it, the pipe, the

[13:49] fittings.

[13:51] >> Um, but it got so wet for a while. We

[13:54] got to control the water every day and

[13:55] that's that could be a problem down

[13:58] there as to where we pump it, how we

[14:00] pump it.

[14:02] So hopefully it'll be dry come June next

[14:05] year. We'll be able to do it right off

[14:06] like after school closes. Um so we don't

[14:09] have to worry about the buses cuz it's

[14:11] going to be closed down for probably 3

[14:12] weeks, 3 to 4 weeks by the time we dig

[14:14] it all out and do the whole project. But

[14:18] we are so everybody knows tomorrow we're

[14:21] running a skim coat of black top to get

[14:23] it through the winter cuz it is bad. Not

[14:26] saying it's not. So we're going to patch

[14:28] it all tomorrow.

[14:30] Um,

[14:30] >> that's good. Somebody asked me if you

[14:32] were going to touch that road up a

[14:34] little bit.

[14:34] >> Yeah, that's tomorrow's [snorts]

[14:35] schedule right now.

[14:36] >> Save me a question.

[14:37] >> Yeah. [laughter]

[14:40] >> Um, so that'll, like I said, will go

[14:42] next year. Um,

[14:45] and then we're just continue to do our

[14:46] normal leaves grading.

[14:50] Uh, we've been doing a lot of it's been

[14:52] a hectic summer with tree work.

[14:54] Obviously, you've heard here probably

[14:57] several times on issues of trees with

[14:59] the power company and

[15:02] they're pretty much done.

[15:04] >> Okay, that was going to be one of my

[15:06] questions.

[15:06] >> Um, they got I think a few more trees on

[15:11] old turnpike road to take down, which

[15:13] they were supposed to do this week. I

[15:14] haven't seen them up there. And then

[15:15] there were a few more on War Road. And I

[15:17] think the project that they were doing

[15:20] is pretty well done.

[15:21] >> Mhm.

[15:23] the solar project have been involved

[15:24] with that. They finally did the

[15:27] retention ponds that I asked for for the

[15:30] hopefully solve some of the water

[15:31] problem on Pine Meadow Road one.

[15:34] >> Um,

[15:35] >> which solar project?

[15:36] >> The one on

[15:38] >> the Well, they're A and B. The first one

[15:40] you come here.

[15:41] >> Oh. Oh, the existing the ones that have

[15:43] already been permanent. Okay.

[15:44] >> Yeah. There was a lot of water coming

[15:46] [snorts] out of the field that we've

[15:47] been trying to address.

[15:48] >> Okay. Um, they addressed one side last

[15:51] fall and then they they weren't going to

[15:53] do the other side and they needed me to

[15:56] sign off on the the curb cut and I

[15:59] refused to sign off until we handled the

[16:01] water cuz it overflows our drainage all

[16:03] the time.

[16:04] >> Okay.

[16:04] >> Um, so they did design the retention

[16:06] pond and put in there. We haven't had

[16:09] what rain we've had. It's handled it

[16:11] great. So hopefully it's problem solved.

[16:16] We won't know unless we get one of those

[16:18] monster rains.

[16:21] But they they were very good after

[16:23] everything. It took a while. A lot of

[16:26] back and forth contacts with different

[16:27] people, but we got it solved.

[16:32] And then uh that's pretty much it that

[16:34] we've done so far. We're just still

[16:36] doing a lot of basin repairs,

[16:39] catch basins that are failing or the

[16:42] tops are broke or whatever. We've been

[16:44] doing that

[16:45] and in the next few weeks, just so that

[16:47] everybody knows, they're going to be

[16:49] starting a bunch of projects.

[16:52] We're going to be starting Becky's put

[16:53] it on the website for me, but it's all

[16:56] subject to weather.

[16:57] >> Yeah.

[16:58] >> But Dickinson Street's supposed to be

[17:00] ground on the the 12th

[17:03] and graded and then paving hopefully the

[17:06] 13th.

[17:08] School Street, the small portion from

[17:09] the fire station to the intersection of

[17:12] East Street. Yep.

[17:13] >> is going to get paved at the same time,

[17:15] the 13th, 14th area. East Street's going

[17:19] to get ground next week. And then the

[17:22] sewer department's going to change all

[17:24] their sewer covers. So, if people can

[17:27] avoid East Street, it would be helpful.

[17:30] I mean, we'll have it so residents can

[17:32] get home in and out.

[17:33] >> It's just going to be hectic with the

[17:35] grinding going on and then they all the

[17:37] sewer manholes have to be changed and

[17:39] they're [snorts] all down the middle of

[17:40] the road. Um, so and then they're going

[17:43] to go over to St. Mary Street. This is

[17:48] all within the 13th and 14th on the

[17:51] pavement hopefully, weather permitting.

[17:53] >> Yeah.

[17:53] >> And then old Turnpike Road, the top

[17:56] portion, they're going to they're going

[17:57] to completely rip that up, grade it cuz

[18:00] it's all broken up, uh, and pave that

[18:04] the same time. So,

[18:06] >> Mhm.

[18:06] >> It's going to be busy out in the general

[18:08] area, just so people know.

[18:10] We're going to have a couple detours set

[18:12] up when we start the pavement to make it

[18:14] easier.

[18:15] >> Mhm.

[18:18] >> Yeah.

[18:18] >> So, that's the fall

[18:21] harra, I guess you want to say.

[18:23] >> The last harra before the

[18:25] >> Yeah.

[18:26] >> Um, so this is all on the website. I

[18:29] just noticed cuz I got the email

[18:30] announcement. Thank you very much. Uh,

[18:32] cuz when she posts it, it actually sends

[18:34] out an email, too. Mhm.

[18:36] >> Um so if people aren't signed up for

[18:38] that um they might want to be signed up

[18:40] for that. So then as she changes

[18:42] announcements then they would get

[18:43] notices.

[18:45] >> Um is there

[18:45] >> we're trying to tell all the residents

[18:47] as we're working on the roads if

[18:49] somebody comes to town to expect delays

[18:51] or

[18:52] >> Okay.

[18:52] >> I mean Dickinson Street is pretty easy.

[18:54] There's only four houses on so it's

[18:56] pretty simple. Right.

[18:57] >> We were trying to do it on a Monday when

[18:59] the library is closed but

[19:01] >> and you don't have the food pantry on a

[19:03] Saturday without Yeah, exactly. They got

[19:05] to grind that whole road. So that's why

[19:07] it's going to take a little longer and

[19:09] so the pavement won't be till the end of

[19:10] the week. So we'll try to get it figured

[19:13] out as to how we can get people in there

[19:15] if they have to get into the parking

[19:16] lot.

[19:17] >> Mhm.

[19:18] >> Okay.

[19:18] >> Um cuz that's just going to be a base

[19:20] coat there cuz that's going to be oil

[19:22] and stone next year. So that they can

[19:26] drive on that sooner than like East

[19:28] Street's going to be a final coat and

[19:30] they'll mark it up if they drive on it

[19:32] too soon.

[19:32] >> Mhm.

[19:34] most of the roadside. We got our new

[19:36] roadside mower.

[19:38] >> Yay.

[19:39] >> He's been Yep.

[19:41] >> Uh he's almost done. We've done the

[19:43] whole town almost three times this year

[19:46] >> between all the mowing and stuff.

[19:48] >> Mhm.

[19:49] >> Which people have been really happy

[19:50] about cuz they can see through

[19:52] intersections and

[19:53] >> Yeah.

[19:54] >> other things. I mean, the new mower has

[19:56] only been going for about a month and a

[19:57] half.

[19:58] >> Mhm. But it makes a big difference cuz

[20:00] he can reach a little further and it

[20:03] does a lot better job than the old one

[20:05] was doing. So I do notice a difference.

[20:09] We just had a little We have a little

[20:10] snap of one of registrations. But

[20:13] >> oops.

[20:14] >> Really?

[20:15] >> Did you get pulled over?

[20:16] >> No.

[20:16] We can't get it registered. I have

[20:18] to go to Springfield and try now.

[20:20] >> Oh, no.

[20:21] >> It's a specialty plate and nobody can

[20:23] explain why. Cuz our last one was

[20:24] registered.

[20:25] >> Yeah.

[20:26] >> Normally.

[20:26] >> Oh, interesting. probably because they

[20:28] want more money.

[20:29] >> Well, the last one I I think we figured

[20:32] out a lot of it is because it's a John

[20:33] Deere tractor with a mowing attachment

[20:35] on it.

[20:36] >> This is a full

[20:37] >> This is a mower attachment that's made

[20:39] by this. It's not a John Deere tractor,

[20:42] but the town of Greenfield's going

[20:44] through the same problem. Um I talked to

[20:47] them because I asked what they did and

[20:48] they said, "I don't know. What are you

[20:50] doing?" Because every they've been to

[20:52] two registries in Boston and they won't

[20:54] register it. So, I got to go to what is

[20:57] it? The specialty plates

[20:59] in Springfield and try to otherwise we

[21:02] got to petition Boston registry is what

[21:04] we've been told.

[21:06] >> Really? It's kind of bizarre.

[21:10] >> Okay.

[21:11] >> But I talked to the insurance company

[21:13] and they said we're okay. We got the

[21:15] lights, we got the triangle, and we're

[21:17] insured. So,

[21:20] » great. [laughter]

[21:22] >> Done. We've got all our new trucks. The

[21:26] two trucks that we've had on order for a

[21:28] long time, we have those during service.

[21:30] >> Great.

[21:32] >> Um,

[21:34] other than that, we're moving forward.

[21:36] >> Okay.

[21:37] >> Old window road. There were some issues

[21:39] last year, end of last year, beginning

[21:41] of this year, upper and lower. Are those

[21:43] were those taken care of?

[21:45] >> As in the plowing portion,

[21:46] >> plowing and

[21:48] this year because they're dirt. So we go

[21:51] to two different

[21:52] >> one you we only salt the black top and

[21:55] then the truck has to go back after

[21:57] we're done salt and then they go back

[21:58] and sand.

[22:00] >> So we switch out and do the dirt roads

[22:02] after.

[22:03] >> Okay.

[22:03] >> And depending on the routes are going to

[22:06] change a little this year. So depending

[22:08] on the trucks that are up there, some of

[22:10] the trucks can't even turn around on the

[22:11] top. So the big the big truck will go

[22:14] down to um Cody Sison's parking area

[22:18] >> cuz it's big enough for him to turn

[22:19] around there. And then the

[22:20] subcontractors

[22:22] >> go beyond there. But the subcontractors

[22:24] are sometimes a little

[22:26] >> later than what the bigger truck goes

[22:28] down. Depends on,

[22:30] >> you know, how soon they cuz the the

[22:32] subcontractor goes down like four mile

[22:34] brook and does that all the dirt roads

[22:37] down that way. Then it comes back up and

[22:40] goes the two ways out the dirt roads.

[22:43] >> So you're doing um the lower end of old

[22:46] window road. You're pushing the

[22:48] embankment back, fixing that up. Is that

[22:50] for drainage more than

[22:51] >> drainage next year? Getting started on

[22:53] that and plus the place for the snow to

[22:55] go cuz we always had a problem like we

[22:56] do on Alexander Hill. The snow, they're

[22:58] all high banks.

[22:59] >> We're going to be able to push.

[23:00] >> So yeah, the snow would all fall back

[23:02] down on the road. So we got that area

[23:04] for the snow to go. We got to do

[23:06] drainage there next year and then we're

[23:08] going to pave the whole thing.

[23:09] >> The whole road.

[23:10] >> Well, yeah. Hopefully up to old window

[23:14] the intersection of Lyman

[23:17] uh that area.

[23:20] >> Can we talk a little bit more about is

[23:23] the drainage work going to help with um

[23:26] I'm just thinking wanted to make sure

[23:28] that we updated I think we talked a

[23:30] little bit. I went back and looked at my

[23:32] notes. Your last update was in June and

[23:35] we had a I mean you went through

[23:37] basically I think almost everything so

[23:40] far, but then we talked about and we did

[23:43] this last year of what we could actually

[23:46] do with Old Wendle because we set aside

[23:50] what was it $150,000

[23:53] to actually fix past Cody Sison.

[24:00] It was the the 150 was for I think it

[24:03] was 200,000

[24:04] >> 200,000

[24:05] >> that was for engineering to figure out

[24:07] what it was going to cost us to either

[24:09] do the whole road portions of the road

[24:12] how we were going to do it. So the

[24:14] survey has been done and then we've been

[24:16] back and forth

[24:18] the not the sur the whole study I guess

[24:21] I should say with the engineering. Um

[24:23] they've done that. We have copies of

[24:25] that. We're trying to get some bigger

[24:26] copies.

[24:27] >> He emailed me today. I asked him, he's

[24:29] going to send me some of the survey

[24:30] portion large.

[24:33] >> And we, me and Andre have talked about

[24:36] coming to certain portions of it and ex

[24:39] expanding to make a good turnaround for

[24:41] plow trucks.

[24:42] >> Mhm.

[24:42] >> And to solve some of the problems, but

[24:44] there's still a lot of work. The

[24:46] drainage all has to be improved. But if

[24:49] we were to go,00 It's approximately,

[24:51] 1100 ft on both the lower end that's not

[24:54] maintained now from where we stop. going

[24:57] up, 1100 feet and then at the top coming

[25:00] down, 1100 feet.

[25:02] >> There's good places to make turnarounds

[25:04] for the plow trucks. Yeah. And

[25:06] everything else.

[25:07] >> And then from that portion down, we have

[25:10] to decide or you guys have to decide how

[25:12] we want to proceed with it,

[25:15] >> whether we're going to just not maintain

[25:17] it

[25:18] or there's been some ideas thrown

[25:20] around,

[25:21] >> right? I talked to to legal. I mean

[25:22] there's obviously you have two well you

[25:24] have three you can do nothing but I

[25:26] think we've talked about not continuing.

[25:28] >> Well I just want to make sure we're

[25:29] keeping the because we had the petition

[25:31] from all the residents in that area. So

[25:34] I just want to make sure that we're

[25:35] identifying clear and I know these

[25:37] things take a while. I just want to make

[25:38] sure that we're laying out the steps

[25:40] properly and making sure they feel

[25:43] >> okay things are moving forward even

[25:45] though it takes a while and we're doing

[25:46] things in chunks here and there. Um,

[25:49] >> I think the idea of doing the 1100 on

[25:51] each side is getting to where where

[25:53] people are currently accessing where we

[25:55] see some people currently accessing plus the homes that are on the dirt

[25:59] portion. But but even beyond that,

[26:00] there's a few people that access a

[26:02] couple points and where they can safely

[26:04] turn around and then after that the road

[26:07] actually becomes impassible because no

[26:10] one is accessing through ledge trees

[26:13] growing.

[26:14] >> So um what to do at that point? So Tom

[26:17] has identified where he thinks it makes

[26:19] sense to stop on each end,

[26:21] >> right?

[26:22] >> And put in road, you know, and that'll

[26:24] be some expense to that. He's going to

[26:25] price that and do a project, but then it

[26:28] would be done.

[26:29] >> Um, and then you have to determine from

[26:32] those two new end points what you want

[26:35] to do with the middle section. And we

[26:38] had pretty survey

[26:40] >> the middle section, the impassible

[26:42] section, if you will.

[26:43] >> Correct. the section there.

[26:45] >> Hasn't been maintained yet.

[26:46] >> So, we're clearly stating that we're not

[26:48] planning on doing I just want to state

[26:51] the obvious. We're not planning on

[26:52] cutting through and and connecting the

[26:54] two pieces.

[26:55] >> That's millions of dollars.

[26:56] >> No, I know. Um but I just wanted to make

[26:58] and periodically I think like an Amazon

[27:01] driver or somebody would like attempt

[27:02] to, you know.

[27:03] >> Yeah. But barring uh GPS errors aside,

[27:09] um we're just clearly stating that we

[27:11] need to there's a number of different

[27:12] things that we would need to do even

[27:14] when we're stating the obvious on either

[27:16] side. So the top part of the lower

[27:19] portion and the low part of the top

[27:21] portion of Old Wendell Road and then

[27:24] ignoring that piece in between. So can

[27:26] you just explain those steps and I'd

[27:29] like to be able to lay out some sort of

[27:31] schedule even if it's just

[27:33] >> so

[27:34] done the first part which is to measure

[27:36] from the current maintained portions and

[27:38] to really mark out where it should stop

[27:41] for the safety of their vehicles and for

[27:43] where people are no longer using

[27:44] >> so that it works for

[27:46] >> and then he's going to work on turning

[27:47] that into cost estimating how much work

[27:49] has to be done. He's got drainage, road

[27:52] maintenance. I mean obviously you don't

[27:53] just pave um survey that was conducted

[27:58] by Thai and bond which we did in this

[28:00] report I think it's going to turn out to

[28:02] be necessary it's going to turn out to

[28:05] be enough to establish any proposed

[28:08] further

[28:10] option with that road if it's going to

[28:12] be a discontinuence of the road between

[28:15] those two points or what they call a

[28:17] discontinuence of maintenance.

[28:20] So, there's two options there. Um,

[28:22] discontinuing of the road is literally

[28:25] an extinguishment of the public's right

[28:27] to use the road. I mean, it's it's a got about 10 meetings. You have

[28:32] to you it's it's a much more complicated

[28:34] and the road essentially goes away. So,

[28:37] the people who have land in between

[28:39] literally lose access. So, that didn't

[28:41] seem the optimal

[28:43] or or the public people who walk it.

[28:45] There's some of the land in there's

[28:47] conservation land. like it just didn't

[28:49] seem that was our first best choice. So,

[28:54] one of one of the things we talked about

[28:56] was a discontinuence of maintenance, not

[28:59] the discontinuing the road. Um, this

[29:02] means the public continue to have rights

[29:04] of travel over the road. So, people can

[29:07] still walk it. It can connect to trails.

[29:10] There are some properties are up there

[29:11] owned by Mount Grace Conservation Land.

[29:15] Um

[29:17] that statute requires that a whole

[29:20] outline of steps

[29:23] and so the board would have to establish

[29:25] if that's the route you want to take. It

[29:26] does not require a town meeting. It's

[29:28] actually the vote of the select board.

[29:30] But it does require some notification,

[29:34] public hearing,

[29:36] posting,

[29:38] uh, putting some things up on the town

[29:39] clerk's office, and some advertising to

[29:41] get the public aware. So, that's a

[29:44] process the select board could undertake

[29:46] before you then

[29:48] move to vote to discontinue. And it's

[29:51] essentially

[29:53] when you have a public hearing, you

[29:55] discuss that the way is abandoned for

[29:57] because it's unused for ordinary travel,

[29:58] which I think we don't have any real

[30:00] problem establishing. The road is unused

[30:03] for ordinary travel. You can't drive

[30:05] through it. Um, so we're talking just to

[30:09] ask a really stupid obvious question.

[30:12] I'm thinking of Mary back in the day

[30:14] would say, "Explain it like I'm a fourth

[30:16] grader." So, we're just talking about

[30:18] the options that you've laid out here

[30:20] are for that portion in between.

[30:22] >> Yes. Okay.

[30:23] >> Yes.

[30:25] After the extension that that he's

[30:27] already looking at on both sides.

[30:29] >> Um that's clearly people who have homes

[30:31] that are accessing and some people who

[30:32] are accessing a little beyond that.

[30:34] Yeah.

[30:34] >> There routinely and that is travelable now. Um and people do some

[30:41] even if they park and walk in there,

[30:43] there's some people that are using that.

[30:45] But there becomes a point on both sides

[30:47] where you cannot use it for for ordinary

[30:49] travel. It is not a public way in the

[30:52] sense that you can actually drive it or

[30:55] almost walk it. It just a trail if

[30:57] anything that becomes the area we're

[31:01] talking about.

[31:04] So there's a process you can go through

[31:07] some determinations as a select board

[31:09] that you would have to make and then you

[31:11] could ultimately vote to discontinue

[31:14] based on the survey we have very

[31:16] specific

[31:18] boundaries not just random

[31:22] um then we have to file with the town

[31:24] clerk and signs have to be posted and

[31:27] like I said there's a process

[31:29] >> but it is something to consider

[31:32] >> um doing because the property has kind

[31:35] of been in sort of a limbo for a while.

[31:38] >> Okay. So, in the grand scheme of Old

[31:40] Wendell Road, do we need to do and in

[31:43] the sequencing of events, does this need

[31:45] to be done before we can do the um when

[31:48] we finally get to the point of paving?

[31:51] >> I think you should do that first and

[31:53] then you would establish the exact end

[31:57] paving first.

[31:58] >> Yeah. He should determine where he's

[31:59] going to be at, you know, the end.

[32:01] >> Correct. where he's going to maintain

[32:03] till until Tom needs to establish that

[32:06] mark it out. I mean, we can be doing the

[32:08] process simultaneously, but ultimately

[32:11] we would want that well marked and

[32:13] delineated because we would have to put

[32:15] people on notice,

[32:16] >> right?

[32:18] >> And then GPS, you probably would have to

[32:21] change the names of one of the two

[32:23] probably.

[32:23] >> Well, if you want to change the names,

[32:24] that's something you could do. uh that

[32:26] probably has to go to town meeting to

[32:27] vote, but you could do upper old window

[32:29] and lower old window

[32:30] >> and you'd have a sign that this that's

[32:32] this big, right?

[32:33] >> I mean, so that's that is something you

[32:35] could do at that point. U which would

[32:38] probably be helpful because there are

[32:40] people who

[32:41] >> when you say old Wendell Road, they're

[32:42] like,

[32:43] >> you have trucks coming up.

[32:45] >> You kind of have to be in the know

[32:46] >> where the numbers change. You have to

[32:48] kind of know that.

[32:49] >> Yeah. Okay. But at this point, right,

[32:51] I'm going to from off the plans that

[32:53] they gave try to establish what each end

[32:56] is going to cost

[32:58] for the drainage and whatnot. Then we

[33:00] have to establish where you know how

[33:02] much money it's going to cost. You're

[33:04] probably talking close to a half million

[33:06] dollars each end.

[33:07] >> Each end. So millions.

[33:08] >> It needs it all needs updated drainage.

[33:10] There's some blasting that's going to

[33:12] have to be done on the upper portion to

[33:13] move some of the rock that's out that we

[33:16] plow around. Now, I mean, if you're

[33:18] going to do it and you're going to

[33:19] >> do it and do it right,

[33:22] >> you might as well blast the ledge and

[33:24] get it back now,

[33:26] >> as well as for the drainage as well. So,

[33:28] it's

[33:29] >> it's probably a couple year project

[33:31] before you're done with the whole thing

[33:33] >> at this point. So,

[33:35] >> is that something you'd probably hired

[33:36] out? You guys wouldn't probably be able

[33:37] to do it, right?

[33:38] >> No, we could do everything but the

[33:40] blast.

[33:41] >> Yeah. Yeah. The rest of it's all just

[33:43] really drainage. There's a little bit of

[33:45] tree removal, but most of it's actually

[33:47] been done. The drainage is the big

[33:49] thing.

[33:49] >> Yeah.

[33:50] >> Um, but some of the drainage has never

[33:52] been done properly because of the ledge

[33:54] there cuz you got to blast it. So, they

[33:56] just kind of laid the pipes on the

[33:58] ledge,

[33:59] >> which you don't have the depth.

[34:03] >> When you grade, you hit the pipes all

[34:04] the time and stuff. So, you'd have to

[34:06] change all that.

[34:07] >> Okay.

[34:08] >> That's so you could I mean, you could do

[34:10] the discontinuence of maintenance while

[34:12] he's doing that. You don't have to wait

[34:13] till

[34:14] >> parallel. Correct.

[34:15] >> Correct.

[34:16] >> But we but he would have marked the we

[34:18] would know where by then.

[34:19] >> Would there be any grants that might

[34:21] help us with this?

[34:23] >> I mean chapter 90.

[34:24] >> Well, yeah. And you wouldn't want to use

[34:27] it all at once. Be using it over time.

[34:29] >> That would be the thing with what we

[34:31] get. You got to use it portionally to

[34:34] >> right

[34:34] >> to figure it out. That's what we kind of

[34:36] do now. And we we got to remember we

[34:38] still got one bridge

[34:40] >> y

[34:40] >> that we're still in limbo on on school

[34:42] street that

[34:43] >> well and the funding that we got from

[34:45] the state was for equipment not not for

[34:48] actually not for the operational work of

[34:51] paving. I just wanted to clarify that

[34:53] cuz somebody had asked me that a while

[34:54] back portion of that correct we just got

[34:57] the portion

[34:58] >> so we can continue to look into funding.

[35:01] I just are the steps and timing clear.

[35:04] So that very next step is what?

[35:06] Drainage.

[35:07] >> Well, looking at the cost of it and then

[35:09] I can I can come back and figure out,

[35:11] you know, then we're going to know.

[35:12] >> He's got to basically do a scope of

[35:14] work, right?

[35:15] >> And then cost that scope of work.

[35:17] >> Okay. So, when can we establish a time

[35:19] frame for that or do you two want to

[35:21] talk about it and come back so we can

[35:22] start laying out?

[35:24] >> I'll work on this winter. I mean, to get

[35:26] >> Yeah,

[35:27] >> it's, you know, that's the best time for

[35:28] me because there's a lot to it going

[35:30] over the plan,

[35:32] >> you know. So yeah,

[35:33] >> I mean they have most of that stuff, but

[35:35] there could be questions. Yep.

[35:36] >> I had talked to Titan bar and most of

[35:38] what they had put on their plans is

[35:40] stuff that's a doable thing without them

[35:42] changing things. So I can basically look

[35:45] at what they have in their design.

[35:47] >> Yeah.

[35:48] >> It just takes a lot of time to go back

[35:49] and forth. So

[35:50] >> and we do have some of that funding. So

[35:52] I think we can use that for the

[35:54] engineering even I think of the work

[35:57] you're going to do because we've already

[35:59] >> still more in that fund.

[36:00] >> Correct. Mhm.

[36:02] >> Okay.

[36:02] >> That would take some of the pressure

[36:04] off. It's not the construction funds per

[36:05] se, although we might be able to

[36:06] reallocate what's left, but it would at

[36:08] least get him through.

[36:10] >> Now, go ahead.

[36:11] >> Some of the scope of work and

[36:12] engineering pieces to get ready.

[36:14] >> Feel like skip.

[36:15] >> Would it would it make sense to do one

[36:19] side and then the other

[36:21] >> and not in concurrent

[36:23] upper then lower?

[36:24] >> Yeah. And if if so,

[36:27] which one would be

[36:30] the

[36:31] one that would want to be done first,

[36:33] upper or lower?

[36:35] >> I think you're going to engineer them

[36:36] both. We have

[36:37] >> You're going to engineer lower engineer.

[36:39] >> The upper is the one that we have the

[36:41] biggest problem with the turnaround.

[36:43] >> That's our upper end.

[36:45] >> Yeah.

[36:45] >> Okay.

[36:46] >> And that's where the um requests have

[36:48] come more than once from the residents.

[36:50] So, can we I don't want to get too far

[36:53] into the weeds on like we totally trust

[36:56] your ability to figure out what's what

[36:59] and I'll um I just want to maybe take it

[37:03] up a level and and we've got all this

[37:05] detail on how to discontinue the portion

[37:07] in between. just want to take it up a

[37:09] level. Maybe we need to do this at the

[37:11] next meeting where we just say the

[37:13] following this is one of the steps in a

[37:16] larger project and it might be parallel

[37:18] to all the other steps. And if the focus

[37:22] on paving is for the upper portion of

[37:25] Wendell Road, then I know you would have

[37:27] to do engineering for both, but then we

[37:30] could potentially sequence out beyond

[37:32] that. not even putting dates on it so

[37:34] much as what are the steps and then the

[37:36] dates will unfold as the we go through

[37:39] the [snorts] the season because

[37:41] obviously we're not going to be um

[37:44] paving in in the in the winter, right?

[37:47] And you're not going to pave before

[37:48] you've done the drainage. So, if we

[37:50] could just lay out those steps on on for

[37:54] the average person or somebody because

[37:56] the Greenfield Recorder is here too. So

[37:57] the green field recorder be like, "Oh,

[37:59] this is this is what all that means that

[38:01] they just talked about." Okay. Anything

[38:04] else?

[38:04] >> No, I'm good. Nope.

[38:06] >> Okay. Does Does that make David?

[38:08] >> Uh, let's go.

[38:09] >> Two questions. One was I saw you this

[38:11] morning. So, I've actually had a town

[38:13] resident ask me how would they approach

[38:17] the town to request a street light?

[38:20] >> Oh,

[38:22] that is true.

[38:24] I don't used to have a committee, but I

[38:27] don't think there's a committee anymore.

[38:28] >> You had street light guidelines that are

[38:31] like multi-pages long. It's um so I have

[38:35] those. I have to look at them again.

[38:37] They seemed sort of out of date and a

[38:39] little cumbersome. Um

[38:42] it's it's really ultimately not a town

[38:45] decision. The town can certainly request

[38:47] it. It's it's the polls are set by

[38:50] Verizon.

[38:52] I mean by Eversource

[38:54] >> Eversource sets the polls. So we have to

[38:56] actually petition Eversource to set a

[38:58] poll. We don't put poles in.

[39:01] >> The way it used to be was any dangerous

[39:03] intersection when they went through and

[39:06] shut the lights off in town years ago.

[39:08] >> They were supposed to leave them on at

[39:10] any dangerous intersection or like a a a

[39:13] sharp blinding type corner. Other than

[39:17] that, they were shutting every other

[39:18] that was kind of their policy. And then

[39:21] if somebody I know for a fact because I

[39:23] was or my grandparents were paying till

[39:25] I bought their house, but if you wanted

[39:28] a street light in a certain spot that

[39:30] was not a necessity to them, you pay for

[39:34] it. They'll put one in, they'll turn it

[39:36] on, but you're paying through your

[39:38] electric bill on it.

[39:41] So, who would they reach out to you?

[39:43] >> Yeah, they can start with me. I I'll

[39:45] look at the guidelines again. I'll pull

[39:46] them. I didn't find them and I did look

[39:48] and we were looking at them with select

[39:50] board policies cuz we thought they were

[39:51] select policy but I don't think they

[39:53] actually are. It looks like they were

[39:54] set. Um but it looks pretty old and it

[39:57] pretty

[39:59] like a five member board from

[40:01] >> committee

[40:02] >> that went through most people to turn

[40:04] them off. Most people wanted them all.

[40:05] >> No, I get okay thank you. So, um,

[40:09] >> yeah,

[40:10] >> you're going to send them to me.

[40:11] >> Send that to Andrea and then we're going

[40:12] to figure out where the select board

[40:14] fits into that.

[40:16] >> Um, in case we actually need to send a

[40:18] letter or petition to um, ever question.

[40:21] >> Okay, second. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for

[40:23] helping. So, your second question is

[40:24] >> the second one was on Warwick Road.

[40:26] You're going to skim code it and then

[40:28] So, where are we with the long-term

[40:29] solution for that? Anywhere?

[40:31] >> Well, that's going to happen next

[40:32] summer.

[40:33] >> Next summer, we're good to go to

[40:35] everything. We got all the permits in

[40:36] place. It was just the the water because

[40:39] the water's going to work in conjunction

[40:41] because they're going to put on a new

[40:42] water man at the same time.

[40:43] >> Okay.

[40:44] >> Um so it's on the schedule for next

[40:47] summer. That's definitely

[40:49] >> I I really wanted it done.

[40:51] >> Perfect. Great. That's what I had.

[40:53] Thanks, Tom.

[40:53] >> Okay. Any other um streets or citizen?

[40:58] You've got one. Okay. Good.

[40:59] >> Couple quick questions. I heard they're

[41:02] losing their hardline service at the

[41:04] transfer station. Well, I just heard

[41:06] that this afternoon.

[41:07] >> The what service? The hardline. The

[41:09] phone service.

[41:10] >> Supposedly, there's something new that

[41:12] is going to replace it.

[41:14] >> Okay.

[41:14] >> That's what when I Bob spoke to me this

[41:17] afternoon about it and

[41:19] >> Oh, I was going to ask you to talk with

[41:20] Bob because you're listening.

[41:21] >> I did talk to him and he said he talked

[41:23] with Aaron at length because they got a

[41:25] notice or something.

[41:27] >> Yeah. He talked with Karen, too.

[41:28] >> Yeah. And it's But supposedly they're

[41:31] replacing it with something else.

[41:33] >> Okay.

[41:34] um that he was under the impression of

[41:37] >> they're doing away with the centric

[41:38] system,

[41:39] >> but they're not cutting all phone lines.

[41:42] There's a certain centric system that

[41:45] had to do with municipal and they think

[41:47] they're

[41:49] >> discontinuing that system.

[41:50] >> Okay. My other one, um have they updated

[41:53] you on that Milbrook siphon the access

[41:57] and the erosion issues? say, "I got an

[42:00] email wondering if we could get gravel

[42:02] out there somehow." But I haven't got in

[42:04] contact with Isaac to see

[42:06] >> if you could because they wanted to see

[42:09] if you could do a lot of the work and

[42:11] save a lot of money cuz on one side they

[42:14] need uh some gravel laid down so the

[42:17] access is better.

[42:18] >> Yeah. On the upper side, he gave me a

[42:19] set of plans and I know

[42:21] >> the upper Okay, you've seen the plans

[42:22] cuz

[42:22] >> I've seen the plans and then I got an

[42:24] email last week. I guess they got

[42:26] everything through the con. They were

[42:27] waiting on the conservation as well.

[42:29] >> Yeah, they're pretty much through that,

[42:30] but they got to do an a site visit.

[42:32] >> Yeah. And I told them whenever the site

[42:34] visit, I'll go down and walk it with

[42:35] them so we were all on the same page.

[42:37] >> Okay. So, you you'll be able to commit

[42:38] to do that probably whenever we

[42:40] >> Yeah.

[42:41] >> Okay. Cuz that won't they we probably

[42:43] won't get the grant funding the funding

[42:45] award to that till June of next year.

[42:47] >> Yeah.

[42:48] >> At least

[42:49] >> the MVP grant we're applying for.

[42:50] >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That that was my other

[42:52] quest just to make sure you had seen the

[42:54] plans, had an idea.

[42:56] >> I have I have a set of them and because

[42:58] we had they gave me one set and we had a

[43:00] few. We met down there and I you know we made a couple adjustments.

[43:04] >> Good.

[43:05] >> Okay.

[43:06] >> I'm fine with that. Thank you.

[43:07] >> Shane, did you have any?

[43:08] >> I'm good on highway. [laughter]

[43:11] >> I just want to update to the Warp Road

[43:14] Bridge.

[43:15] >> Yes.

[43:16] >> I will I actually had to go to a meeting

[43:18] this morning about it. We thought we'd

[43:20] have more answers than we did, but

[43:21] within a couple weeks, we're supposed to

[43:23] have schedule.

[43:26] >> Okay, good.

[43:26] >> So, I don't know if it's happening this

[43:28] year or not.

[43:31] >> They didn't really some, but it will be

[43:33] down in one lane if it happens. Um

[43:37] they're going to put uh temporary

[43:39] traffic lights at both sides.

[43:40] >> Okay.

[43:41] >> Um so, and they know they have to

[43:43] coordinate with the fire, the AMS,

[43:45] everybody. Yeah,

[43:46] >> right now they didn't have any tenative

[43:48] dates cuz they just awarded the

[43:50] contract.

[43:50] >> Okay,

[43:51] >> that thanks for that. I was glad I

[43:53] didn't have to go to that meeting. The

[43:55] um just so everybody else knows we

[43:58] updated there was a question from EMS

[44:01] and fire regarding the um you know

[44:03] especially the route 10 bridge if they

[44:05] do work on that if it affects service at

[44:08] all. They want to know about it. So we

[44:10] updated all the emails for mass dot got

[44:13] EMS in the loop. um fire's new email is

[44:16] now um hooked into the mass dot list and

[44:20] then Senator Cmerford's office checked

[44:22] and made sure that Mass Dot was actually

[44:24] communicating and I said yes. I said we

[44:27] got all the emails and now we're invited

[44:29] to a meeting. So, um we're good on that

[44:31] portion of it. Anything else with

[44:33] Alexander Hill? The

[44:35] >> We're trying to get up there if we have

[44:36] time

[44:37] >> to scoop.

[44:38] >> We got a We were waiting on the trees.

[44:40] They finally There's one more tree

[44:41] that's got to be cut up there. Oh,

[44:43] they're still working up there on the

[44:45] trees. Yeah.

[44:45] >> Okay. Can we hurry that up?

[44:48] >> Do you want me to hurry it up?

[44:50] >> Okay. And then uh we have an email that

[44:53] we'll talk to you guys about tomorrow

[44:55] about four mile brook.

[44:57] >> I think it's cable. I haven't got

[44:59] through to them. Oh, okay.

[45:00] >> I called munkers today.

[45:02] >> Okay.

[45:02] >> As well to film.

[45:03] >> It should be all set. It's in the town

[45:05] right away anyways. The flag right it's

[45:09] not the town.

[45:09] >> All right. We will respond uh on that

[45:12] question as well. Perfect timing. Okay.

[45:16] Yeah. So, we'll we'll have you back for

[45:18] sure.

[45:18] >> Okay. [laughter]

[45:20] >> Thank you.

[45:20] Tom.

[45:22] >> All right. I'm going to do the fire

[45:23] chief next because we said 6:45 for him.

[45:27] So, are you Lynette?

[45:28] >> Yes.

[45:29] >> Lynette, hi. I thought you were going to

[45:30] be here earlier. So, we're going to go

[45:31] ahead and talk to the fire chief.

[45:34] Michael, come on down.

[45:39] Okay,

[45:41] >> great.

[45:43] Hello.

[45:44] >> How are you?

[45:45] >> Good.

[45:47] That was a fine celebration for uh Skip

[45:50] on Saturday.

[45:52] >> Welcome back. Yeah.

[45:53] >> Yeah.

[45:54] >> Was it like last week you were here?

[45:56] [laughter]

[45:58] >> Um no, Saturday night I think went very

[46:00] well.

[46:00] >> It did. I know he was very overwhelmed

[46:04] and appreciative and Yes.

[46:08] >> Yes. And there's a big article on him in

[46:10] the Greenfield Recorder.

[46:12] >> Thank you, Madison. Okay. So, we're here

[46:15] to talk about your chief agreement

[46:16] because we have been making a lot of

[46:18] progress on the transition summary. So,

[46:20] there's no new updates on that. Mike and

[46:22] I and Andrea have a meeting

[46:27] next week on October 7th to um deal with

[46:31] the auxiliary role as well as minor

[46:33] edits to the associate firefighter.

[46:36] >> I have it in, but I had I didn't set the

[46:38] time.

[46:39] >> Three.

[46:39] >> Okay. 3:00. Make sure I have that in.

[46:42] >> And then um so we'll have a couple of uh

[46:44] relatively easy hopefully issues to deal

[46:48] with. So you can come back to the next

[46:49] meeting too, Mike.

[46:51] October out here.

[46:54] >> He's trying to beat u our EMS chief

[46:57] record and and we might have the police

[46:59] chief next at next meeting as well so we

[47:02] can get him back in the in the running

[47:04] for most select board meetings attended.

[47:07] Okay. So, um we took the contract the um

[47:12] the wording of it is fine per you

[47:15] >> I Nothing jumped out at me. So,

[47:17] >> Yep. Andrea and myself, we reviewed that

[47:19] last week. We took the board's advice

[47:22] regarding and Skip's advice by the way

[47:24] too to go back and revisit the um

[47:27] salary. So that new salary which is

[47:30] where we had kind of started and also I

[47:33] went back and I looked at the different

[47:36] if anybody wants this the um survey that

[47:39] you had put together. So, we're right in

[47:41] line with um other towns as well, the

[47:44] new amount of 12,000

[47:48] um

[47:48] >> which is also very within

[47:51] >> few hundreds of dollars what Skip got

[47:53] last year. So, it's really not much of a

[47:55] change.

[47:55] >> We're we're basically rounding up which

[47:58] we sort of eliminated the stipens and

[48:00] now they've been rolled into the base

[48:02] pay and everything. So, it's it's it's

[48:04] really a

[48:04] >> it's much easier. It's [clears throat] a

[48:06] simplification of three or four

[48:08] different stipens plus hourly plus this

[48:10] and and I looked at two or three years

[48:11] to make sure that we were right in line

[48:14] with that. We also I think it um just

[48:17] sets a clear easier standard because

[48:19] it's a certain monthly amount um and

[48:22] annually for the for their budgeting.

[48:24] They know exactly what they're talking

[48:26] about for the chief salary.

[48:28] >> Yep.

[48:28] >> Um and it I think it reflects also some

[48:31] changes in updating in the job

[48:33] description and responsibilities.

[48:35] Correct. And it doesn't really affect

[48:37] the FY27 budget.

[48:39] >> It doesn't. No, it fell falls into the

[48:40] numbers that we were using. So, yeah.

[48:43] >> Y any questions? And and actually this

[48:46] answers directly answers the question

[48:48] that David had raised at the last

[48:49] meeting. Thanks, David. About um that we

[48:52] should be paying more. I know that Mike

[48:56] was

[48:56] >> Well, my question was, is it in line?

[48:59] >> Yes.

[49:00] >> And it is. It is.

[49:01] >> That was my question. Yeah.

[49:02] >> Yes. I'm not running into a house that's

[49:05] on fire for that wage.

[49:07] [snorts]

[49:07] >> Let's secure.

[49:08] >> I just tell people to do it now.

[49:10] [laughter]

[49:11] >> See that?

[49:13] >> Pays fine.

[49:15] >> You're just going to have to develop

[49:16] your pointing finger through the radio.

[49:19] >> Um

[49:19] >> I have an antenna now. [laughter]

[49:22] >> Okay. Um any other questions? I thought

[49:25] it was a good discussion last week. So,

[49:26] we're just formalizing what we talked

[49:28] about and then bumping that up. And

[49:30] there's no way it's going to affect this

[49:32] your budget this year anyway.

[49:34] >> Watch the numbers and watch them how

[49:36] they play out for six or eight months.

[49:38] And

[49:39] >> correct. And plus, we're already part

[49:41] way we're already a quarter of the way

[49:42] through the fiscal year.

[49:44] >> And the other thing I wanted to

[49:45] piggyback on that you're not going to

[49:46] get to the warrant, but since you're

[49:48] sitting here, there is an article in the

[49:50] warrant for to set up a revolving

[49:52] >> Oh, we did talk about that for peries.

[49:55] And all that means is

[49:57] >> it makes sense. Everything someone pays

[49:59] >> goes in, comes out.

[50:00] >> It's already paid to the person doing

[50:02] the permit fees and the inspections, but what they were doing was collecting

[50:06] it and then they had to budget it

[50:07] because it was never set up as a

[50:09] revolving fund. So, you were putting

[50:10] money on the tax rate as an estimate as

[50:14] opposed to just taking it in, sending it

[50:16] out. And the town has a whole number of

[50:18] revolving fees, revolving. So, this just

[50:21] turns this into one of those. So,

[50:23] >> yep.

[50:24] >> It's an inn-out mechanism.

[50:26] >> Good. So, [clears throat] we are like

[50:28] chunking just chunking through the rest

[50:30] of the transition summary. Um, no new

[50:33] updates on that this week. There will be

[50:35] at at the next meeting. Um, I'm just

[50:37] going to hold this up. Thank you, Becky,

[50:39] for putting these together for you

[50:41] handed this out to all the firefighters.

[50:43] >> They have that. Yeah. And the one page

[50:45] that we've had to have correctly

[50:46] resolved and also also updated.

[50:48] >> Yeah. So the great thing is it's set up

[50:50] so that if one page changes there was a

[50:52] >> and the whole thought process with that

[50:55] was there was going to need changes

[50:56] throughout the years was going to need

[50:58] to be adaptable and that

[50:59] >> right so this is this is what came out

[51:01] of that process just so you guys

[51:04] >> all see that.

[51:06] >> Okay. Um motion

[51:10] to approve and have me sign the fire

[51:14] chief contract.

[51:17] >> The agreement. Yeah, the agreement.

[51:18] Thank you.

[51:19] >> Will be commencing immediately upon

[51:21] signing and and ending June 30th, 2020.

[51:25] >> 27. Yeah.

[51:26] >> So motion and uh

[51:28] >> second.

[51:29] >> Okay. Second by David. All those in

[51:31] favor?

[51:32] >> I

[51:34] >> abstain.

[51:35] >> Abstaining from Mr. Duke.

[51:38] >> You have to sign

[51:39] >> and I have to sign it.

[51:40] >> And Mike has to sign it.

[51:41] >> Okay.

[51:43] >> All right. So, we're good on that.

[51:45] >> He's my He's my direct supervisor. He

[51:47] tells me to run into the building.

[51:49] >> And you do things. I mean, you directed

[51:51] traffic, right? Yesterday.

[51:52] >> Very very tall. When he was

[51:54] >> What was going on yesterday?

[51:56] >> Uh with tree down across what?

[51:59] >> He's directing traffic where yesterday.

[52:01] >> Uh we were on route 10. The

[52:03] >> right in the dip.

[52:04] >> Oh, is that what that was?

[52:06] >> Oh, tree down.

[52:07] >> The trees uproot there all the time.

[52:10] Wasn't even any wind.

[52:11] >> Oh, really?

[52:12] >> Came across all came across the whole

[52:14] lanes and landed on the blinds on the

[52:15] other side. So, we assisted with

[52:18] traffic.

[52:19] >> Wow.

[52:21] >> I've got a copy in your book.

[52:23] >> Well done, Shane.

[52:25] >> Thank you.

[52:26] >> Can of time that I have.

[52:27] >> All right. Thank you.

[52:29] >> We appreciate it.

[52:30] >> Okay.

[52:31] >> Thank you, Mike. I think we're good.

[52:32] >> Okay. Very good.

[52:33] >> We'll see you next week. [laughter]

[52:35] >> Thank you. See you two weeks.

[52:37] >> See you next week.

[52:38] >> Two weeks. No, we'll see you in two

[52:39] weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks.

[52:42] >> Okay. So,

[52:44] >> I see Mike more than than most people.

[52:46] Okay. All right, Lynette, come on up,

[52:48] please.

[52:52] So, Lynette, you're here for the Trinity

[52:55] Solar LLC

[52:59] temporary vendors hawker and peddler

[53:01] license,

[53:02] >> correct?

[53:02] >> Okay, good. Um, so typically

[53:07] and you're looking at effective date of

[53:09] operations for um, it's now going to be

[53:12] October. So are you looking at the month

[53:14] of October?

[53:16] >> Yeah.

[53:16] >> Okay, that kind of fits. I went back and

[53:19] looked through the notes. There was

[53:20] somebody from Trinity here last October.

[53:22] >> Correct.

[53:23] >> Yeah.

[53:25] Okay. Um,

[53:26] >> the hours operation 9:00 a.m. to 8:30

[53:28] p.m.

[53:31] >> So we're down to 8. We end at 8 now.

[53:34] >> 9 to 8.

[53:35] >> Yeah.

[53:35] >> Well, when does the sun set?

[53:37] >> Earlier than that.

[53:39] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[53:40] >> Yeah. I think we've done it earlier just

[53:42] so that people aren't um Some folks are

[53:44] a little sensitive to having, you know,

[53:46] folks they don't know in their driveway

[53:48] after dark,

[53:48] >> right?

[53:49] >> Um

[53:51] change it to six.

[53:53] >> That's what we did for Mike last year.

[53:55] >> So 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. work.

[53:58] >> Okay.

[53:59] Um, and then we do it for two

[54:02] weeks. And if you need it for longer

[54:03] than that, we can set it up so that

[54:06] rather than coming back to us, you can

[54:08] go back to Becky. As long as there's no

[54:10] issues, it can be um,

[54:15] we've done it, I think we did for Mike

[54:16] last year where we set it up for two

[54:18] weeks and then he came back for another

[54:19] two weeks if he needed it.

[54:22] >> Yeah. Just contact Becky and if we

[54:23] haven't heard anything then,

[54:24] >> yeah,

[54:25] >> it went to two weeks. Okay. Again,

[54:27] >> that sounds good.

[54:28] >> Okay. Do you want to Is that good with

[54:31] every Is there any other questions or

[54:33] points or Sorry, I'm just trying to keep

[54:35] it.

[54:35] >> No, I'm good.

[54:36] >> Yeah.

[54:36] >> Okay. All right. So, I'll entertain a

[54:39] motion to approve the application from

[54:43] Lynette Pritchard for Trinity Solar LLC

[54:49] uh for the month of October from 9:00

[54:53] a.m. to 6:00 p.m. with the stipulation

[54:56] that um this is good for 14 days and you

[54:59] have to check in with the town

[55:01] administrative assistant at the end of

[55:03] 14 days to see if you need another two

[55:05] weeks.

[55:06] >> So, moved. Second.

[55:08] >> All those in favor?

[55:09] >> I

[55:11] >> Okie dokie.

[55:12] >> We need to sign this.

[55:14] >> Yes. Oh, yeah. We do. Thank you.

[55:16] >> Okay.

[55:17] >> All right. So, we'll sign this and we're

[55:18] going to hand it off to Becky.

[55:21] Okay. We did that. Okay. Good.

[55:25] >> Does Becky need this one, too?

[55:27] >> Yeah.

[55:29] >> So, we're good on that. Oh, we might as

[55:32] well do the agenda.

[55:35] Oh, it's up next. The next signature one

[55:38] is up too.

[55:39] >> Mhm.

[55:39] >> Okay.

[55:43] » Set it back.

[55:55] » Andrea's got to sign this one

[55:57] eventually.

[55:58] >> Yeah. Usually I end up getting it on the

[56:00] way back through because she gets it

[56:03] from all the chiefs first and then you

[56:05] guys sign and then I should grab it on

[56:07] the way through.

[56:07] >> I'll give it the Becky's out.

[56:10] >> Yeah.

[56:11] >> Okay.

[56:12] >> Here. Send that. Let's go Becky.

[56:14] >> We'll send that one.

[56:14] >> Okay. All righty.

[56:17] >> Okay.

[56:17] >> You're good to go. So, you're going to

[56:20] >> Becky, you're going to take care of it

[56:23] tomorrow. You give her a So, she's got a

[56:26] >> all the signatures and everything. about

[56:28] the dates. You'll have that. Okay. You

[56:31] have my contact.

[56:32] >> Yes. I appreciate your time.

[56:35] >> Yeah. Thank you.

[56:37] >> I know this is different than other

[56:38] towns, but that's this is the way

[56:40] Northfield does it. So, um it's a

[56:43] two-stepper.

[56:44] >> Okay. Thank you.

[56:46] >> Police then the select board. Okay.

[56:50] >> Okay. Okay. So, the next is we have uh a

[56:53] conf a conflict of interest disclosure

[56:56] from Kevin Seaman who's on the emergency

[56:59] services u facility/building committee.

[57:03] >> Right. This is recommended by the state

[57:05] because he's the

[57:06] >> he checked in with the neighbor for the

[57:09] project.

[57:10] >> Yeah. which is exactly why we thought

[57:13] he'd be a great addition to the

[57:14] community. [laughter] It doesn't

[57:15] apparently bother the town, but they

[57:17] thought just for the sake of

[57:20] >> disclosure

[57:21] >> visual that he should go ahead and just

[57:24] say, "Hey, I live next door,"

[57:26] >> which we kind of all did, but

[57:28] >> we all know and we all support. I don't

[57:30] think there's any, right? There's I

[57:32] mean, we all knew that. So, Shane and

[57:34] Dan are on the committee. Um it came

[57:38] about because not the disclosure but um

[57:43] once the house burned down then um Kevin

[57:45] introduced himself um to our EMS chief

[57:48] and then

[57:50] being the

[57:52] good person that and Matt is he's like

[57:54] hey would you like to be on our

[57:55] committee

[57:56] >> and he is

[57:58] >> right and I know people in town have

[58:00] always been concerned about what do the

[58:01] neighbors think? Well we put one on the

[58:03] committee. Okay. So, what kind of we

[58:06] actually need to do a motion to this

[58:08] effect then? Correct.

[58:09] >> Okay.

[58:10] >> So, I'll entertain a motion to

[58:14] >> Are we approve

[58:16] >> you [clears throat] sign it?

[58:17] >> I think it's an I can't remember the

[58:19] language on accepted or

[58:20] >> appointing authority

[58:22] >> determination. We reviewed the we've

[58:24] reviewed the particular matter

[58:27] >> and financial interest identified above

[58:29] by the municipal employee.

[58:31] >> Yep. We have determined that the

[58:33] financial interest is not so substantial

[58:35] as to be deemed likely to affect the

[58:37] integrity of the services which do the

[58:39] municip municipality may expect from the

[58:42] employee.

[58:44] >> Thank you.

[58:45] >> That's what that's what it reads.

[58:47] >> Okay. So, the motion to have me sign

[58:51] uh Kevin Seaman's municipal employee

[58:54] disclosure.

[58:55] >> So, move second.

[58:59] >> All those in favor? I [laughter]

[59:02] >> tan's like I got it.

[59:05] >> So I saw her going.

[59:08] [cough]

[59:16] » Okay,

[59:17] >> you throw that right in here and I'll we

[59:20] can

[59:21] >> Thank you very much. Appreciate the

[59:22] help. Pass it all. Pass it over. I'll

[59:24] put it all back in here.

[59:30] All right. Nothing like a little bit of

[59:31] paperwork to get the creative juices

[59:34] flowing.

[59:35] >> You want to whack off the warrants?

[59:37] >> Yes, please.

[59:39] >> Go ahead.

[59:39] >> Okay, we'll do the warrants here.

[59:42] >> Yeah, let's do that.

[59:42] >> See, I motion that we approve the 930

[59:46] 2026 payroll warrant of $110,45.79.

[59:52] » So moved.

[59:53] >> Second.

[59:53] >> All those in favor?

[59:55] >> I.

[59:56] >> Thank you. I motion that we approve the

[59:59] 930 2026 vendor warrant of $425,2669

[1:00:07] which includes a new police department

[1:00:09] cruiser and the EMS new ambulance.

[1:00:13] >> So moved.

[1:00:14] >> Second.

[1:00:16] >> All those in favor?

[1:00:17] >> I I

[1:00:20] >> Okay, now we're on to the minutes.

[1:00:22] >> Okay. I motion that we approve the uh

[1:00:25] amended minutes from 8:31 2026.

[1:00:30] >> Uh is there a second on that? I do have

[1:00:33] a second

[1:00:34] >> correction on that.

[1:00:38] » Correction on the amendment.

[1:00:39] >> A correction on the amendment or the

[1:00:40] amendment to itself?

[1:00:42] >> The amended. Well, there's my amend.

[1:00:44] >> I think you were going to discuss them.

[1:00:46] >> We're going to discuss them because the

[1:00:48] um I submitted something and Shane

[1:00:51] submitted something. So,

[1:00:52] >> so two different amendments.

[1:00:54] >> Is that what I'm hearing?

[1:00:55] >> I think you should just vote to approve

[1:00:58] the minutes then have the amendment

[1:01:00] discussions and then you can move it as

[1:01:02] amended

[1:01:04] because you don't have the amendment in

[1:01:05] front of you to vote.

[1:01:06] >> No.

[1:01:08] >> Okay. So, just why don't we just discuss

[1:01:11] the amendments and then we can do uh as

[1:01:14] amended.

[1:01:14] >> Yeah. Or better yet, let's do the other

[1:01:17] two minutes first and come back to that.

[1:01:19] How about that? pull out your notes

[1:01:21] while we're doing that. All right. So,

[1:01:23] the joint emergency services facility

[1:01:25] committ uh committee uh with the select

[1:01:28] board from September 1st, 2026.

[1:01:31] >> So, move second.

[1:01:33] >> All those in favor?

[1:01:35] >> I

[1:01:38] from David McCarthy. Okay. And how about

[1:01:41] the September 15th, 2026 meeting

[1:01:43] minutes?

[1:01:46] >> Approval of so moved. Second.

[1:01:49] >> All those in favor?

[1:01:51] >> I Okay. All right. Now, back to 8:31. I

[1:01:54] just want to make sure we're

[1:01:57] >> what we're voting on for an amendment

[1:01:58] before we

[1:02:00] >> I'm hoping this is a short discussion,

[1:02:02] but let's just double check, shall we?

[1:02:05] Okay.

[1:02:08] So,

[1:02:11] Shane, you added a few things on here. I

[1:02:15] think they're fine. The only thing was

[1:02:19] um it was 2500 was the number um not

[1:02:24] 3500

[1:02:26] and um we don't do the town election on

[1:02:29] May 27th. I think we just said the May

[1:02:31] town election. So

[1:02:33] >> May May 20 Well, May of 27.

[1:02:36] >> May of May 2027.

[1:02:39] >> May of the year 27.

[1:02:40] >> May of the year.

[1:02:40] >> May

[1:02:42] not May 27.

[1:02:43] >> Oh, okay. Got it. Oh, okay. Okay. All

[1:02:46] right.

[1:02:47] >> And I thought it was $3,500 and then we

[1:02:48] had an additional was going to be the

[1:02:51] mailings

[1:02:53] because we were already past the point

[1:02:55] of being able to elect out of doing

[1:02:58] post.

[1:02:58] >> Yeah. No, we know the whole we're just

[1:02:59] discussing the edit and the the notes

[1:03:02] that Becky had was 2500 and she double

[1:03:04] checked those with Amanda. Yeah. So,

[1:03:06] it's might have been like

[1:03:09] with the postage thrown in, but if we

[1:03:12] could just put correct that then I think

[1:03:15] we could just incorporate both of them.

[1:03:18] >> I'm okay with that.

[1:03:19] >> Is that okay?

[1:03:20] >> Okay. And it's May 2027. Sorry about

[1:03:23] that. That's the way I just read it.

[1:03:24] Okay. Is that good with you guys?

[1:03:27] >> Mhm.

[1:03:27] >> Okay.

[1:03:27] >> Yep.

[1:03:28] >> All right.

[1:03:29] Um, I'll entertain a motion to approve

[1:03:32] the August 31st, 2026 minutes as amended

[1:03:36] with the two sets of edits.

[1:03:40] >> So moved.

[1:03:41] >> Thank you.

[1:03:41] >> Second.

[1:03:42] >> All those in favor?

[1:03:43] >> I thank you. Okay. Select board

[1:03:48] policies.

[1:03:48] >> Just brought you two this evening

[1:03:50] because they require a little

[1:03:51] discussion. So slowed it down to to two.

[1:03:55] Um,

[1:03:56] >> well, I already did like 15, so

[1:03:59] >> yeah. Yeah, there's a few more, but

[1:04:00] they're we're just doing these a little

[1:04:02] slower because we're going to chunk more

[1:04:04] amended. More amended. So, starting with

[1:04:06] the classification creation or review

[1:04:08] policy. It used to say position review,

[1:04:12] but we kind of made it a little clearer

[1:04:15] because sometimes now it's a creation

[1:04:16] for a new position. We want not just

[1:04:18] review them. We want what's the process

[1:04:19] if someone asks for a position.

[1:04:21] >> Yep. So, this is editing of a previous

[1:04:24] process. Um, it's slightly different now

[1:04:27] because we've added the form and

[1:04:29] expanded the role. We want to make sure

[1:04:31] the department heads involved. Um, but

[1:04:34] it really codifies what we've been doing

[1:04:36] for the last couple of years. Um, and

[1:04:40] incorporates the new request form into

[1:04:42] the policy so that it's it's clear and

[1:04:45] who's involved in the process. So, I

[1:04:49] don't know if anyone had any questions.

[1:04:50] We've used it a couple of times now. So,

[1:04:52] if someone wants to review their own

[1:04:54] position or if a department head wants

[1:04:56] you to review the position of one of

[1:04:58] their employees,

[1:04:59] >> then they go through the process of

[1:05:01] filling the form out. Um, which then it

[1:05:04] initiates the review. Um, and we've done

[1:05:07] it a couple times and basically it

[1:05:09] brings together the department head, the

[1:05:11] town administrator, uh, a member of the,

[1:05:14] um, finance committee and select board

[1:05:17] to at least do the initial review. So

[1:05:20] they can ask any questions, discuss.

[1:05:22] This is also the same if someone says,

[1:05:23] "Hey, I want a new position." We have

[1:05:25] them submit the form. Then you can look

[1:05:27] at what's the cost impact, what does

[1:05:29] this mean long term? Um why do we want

[1:05:32] this? Have you, you know, filled out um

[1:05:34] all the reasons? Um is is is this a

[1:05:36] change in grade and step?

[1:05:38] >> You know, usually if you're asking for a

[1:05:39] change, it means are you asking to just

[1:05:41] go up a step or are you asking for a

[1:05:43] whole reclassification?

[1:05:45] If that's the case, then we we bring

[1:05:47] together the whole reclassification

[1:05:48] committee and we say, "Well, what's

[1:05:50] changed?" And that bumps us back to the

[1:05:52] job description. So, we try to follow

[1:05:54] the same process for every single um

[1:05:57] request, but it starts with the new form

[1:05:59] and we wanted to get that into

[1:06:02] the um into the into the policy.

[1:06:06] >> Questions from the board?

[1:06:07] >> No, I'm good. We've actually been It's

[1:06:09] always nice when you've followed the

[1:06:11] policy changes before they get to

[1:06:14] >> know how they work and I think it just

[1:06:15] gives us more um input from various

[1:06:18] bodies including finance including the

[1:06:20] department and it gives us a written

[1:06:23] trail to talk to follow who's requesting

[1:06:26] what and what work is being requested

[1:06:28] whole classification or just a bump in a

[1:06:31] >> in a in a step. Um, and we have some

[1:06:33] documentation. We can give it to the

[1:06:35] financial people and we can make sure it

[1:06:37] goes in someone's file. Couple times

[1:06:40] we've caught that people's things have

[1:06:41] been changed over the years, but there's

[1:06:43] no documentation, so we don't know what

[1:06:44] happened. But we're trying, we've got

[1:06:46] everybody on a step in grade now, and

[1:06:47] we'd like to keep the process clear and

[1:06:50] followable.

[1:06:53] » Okay. Next,

[1:06:55] >> and this was reviewed with the

[1:06:56] department heads, too. I mean, I know a

[1:06:58] number of them have been through this.

[1:07:00] Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[1:07:01] >> With the department heads. And then

[1:07:02] Becky just put a note, thank you Becky,

[1:07:04] that the the at the top of it says that

[1:07:08] where it says position and review those

[1:07:10] typos were are corrected in the

[1:07:11] electronic document.

[1:07:14] Okay, I'll entertain a if there's

[1:07:16] nothing any other I'm just looking.

[1:07:18] Okay. Um I'll entertain a motion to

[1:07:21] approve the position classification

[1:07:24] creation andor review policy effective

[1:07:28] today.

[1:07:31] So move second.

[1:07:33] >> All those in favor?

[1:07:34] >> I I

[1:07:36] >> Thank you.

[1:07:37] >> And then the only other one for tonight

[1:07:39] would be the grant authorization policy.

[1:07:42] >> Yeah, that made sense.

[1:07:43] >> Well, as you can see, it was from many

[1:07:45] years ago. Started in 2007, then it went

[1:07:47] to 2011. Well, in the past 15 years, how

[1:07:51] we use grants, how we apply for grants,

[1:07:53] who's applying for grants, the size of

[1:07:55] grants, that has all changed. Um, so now

[1:08:00] there's we there were fewer and much

[1:08:02] generally higher grants back then. Now

[1:08:04] we're applying for small grants all the

[1:08:06] time within a department. Um, so

[1:08:10] >> written as and was also written when

[1:08:12] there was no town administrator

[1:08:13] position. So everything went from a

[1:08:14] department head directly to the select

[1:08:16] board. So now I don't think you really

[1:08:19] want to see every $3,000 $4,000 grant

[1:08:22] bringing people in for that um that

[1:08:25] process to to go through the select

[1:08:27] board uh because it can hold up applying

[1:08:30] for grants when the deadlines are due. A

[1:08:32] lot of grants are there are a lot of

[1:08:34] small grants. Obviously any work done by

[1:08:36] a department that would require any kind

[1:08:38] of financial or appropriated funds or

[1:08:41] matching funds usually goes has to go

[1:08:43] through finan board anyway because you

[1:08:44] have to find out where's the funding

[1:08:46] coming from. That makes sense. That's

[1:08:48] not really kind of that that part of the

[1:08:50] process would still continue because

[1:08:52] some

[1:08:52] >> Right. And you've got that covered in

[1:08:54] step one,

[1:08:55] >> right?

[1:08:56] >> So, um any other um

[1:08:59] >> No, look good to me. That's what I

[1:09:01] thought. That's fine.

[1:09:03] >> I don't want to like slow down a small

[1:09:05] grant by having to schedule it with the

[1:09:07] select board, especially if it's for

[1:09:09] another board that's elected and they're

[1:09:12] kind of within their own. There's a lot

[1:09:13] of sewer ones now as well like we like

[1:09:17] we get from the for the council on

[1:09:18] aging. I mean that's an annual

[1:09:21] >> grant they have to fill out. We have to

[1:09:23] fill it all out but it's annual. I mean

[1:09:25] it's

[1:09:26] >> right and I went back and I looked

[1:09:28] through the the minutes. We periodically

[1:09:30] do an entire grant update anyway on all

[1:09:33] the ones that have been awarded.

[1:09:35] >> So um I'm fine with this. I don't want

[1:09:38] to speak for the whole board, but

[1:09:40] >> No, she's actually been doing some of

[1:09:41] this, too, because she's bringing

[1:09:42] grants, tell us what the grants are. So,

[1:09:44] been happening pretty much.

[1:09:45] >> There's peaks when they're all due in

[1:09:47] the spring and some then we get awards.

[1:09:49] So, they it seems to go up and down on

[1:09:51] where we are.

[1:09:52] >> Okay, we got another one.

[1:09:54] >> Oh, want made a motion?

[1:09:55] >> Yeah, go up. Great.

[1:09:56] >> Motion to accept the grant authorization

[1:09:59] policy.

[1:10:00] >> So moved.

[1:10:01] >> Second.

[1:10:02] >> All those in favor? I

[1:10:04] >> I speak up later.

[1:10:06] >> Wow. Two more done.

[1:10:08] So, thank you to Becky and Andrea. We're

[1:10:11] rolling right through our policy

[1:10:13] updates. Cool.

[1:10:15] >> Okay, let's talk about potential

[1:10:17] Falltown meeting warrant articles.

[1:10:19] Something more scintillating.

[1:10:21] So, I gave you a copy of a draft. It's

[1:10:24] very rough draft because technically I'm

[1:10:26] still expecting a possible couple of

[1:10:28] more tomorrow from Sue. That's why

[1:10:29] there's blanks here and there. And

[1:10:31] >> uh and these aren't necessarily in any

[1:10:33] particular order.

[1:10:34] >> Yeah. Um, right now I've just put

[1:10:36] everything in every including the

[1:10:38] kitchen sink. You don't even have to

[1:10:40] include all of these,

[1:10:41] >> including the lawnmower,

[1:10:42] >> right? But, um, but basically everything

[1:10:45] that is sort of out there. Um, and we

[1:10:47] can go through obviously the EMS

[1:10:48] building is one. I don't know that it

[1:10:50] will be your first warrant article. You

[1:10:51] may choose to put it somewhere else, but

[1:10:52] I just plugged it first.

[1:10:54] >> But this is this is the first draft,

[1:10:56] >> correct? Absolutely. None of

[1:10:58] >> We don't have to vote on it. This is

[1:10:59] just for us.

[1:11:00] >> Oh gosh. No. Oh gosh. Actually, they

[1:11:02] close tomorrow. I'm still expecting a

[1:11:03] couple from sewer tomorrow. So, this is

[1:11:06] just kind of so you guys can kind of see where we're at. I mean, there's 13.

[1:11:10] That doesn't mean, like I said, that you

[1:11:11] have to do every one of these at the

[1:11:12] fall time meeting. I just wanted you to

[1:11:14] see what's out there, whether you're

[1:11:16] going to push things off, and if you do,

[1:11:18] what makes sense or why you would,

[1:11:20] >> but um and again, they're in no

[1:11:22] particular order at this time. They're

[1:11:24] just sort of placed. Um the first one,

[1:11:26] obviously, the EMS building. We don't

[1:11:28] have any language in yet as to that. It would be discussed. It's a

[1:11:32] placeholder.

[1:11:33] >> Uh number two, um we've been working a

[1:11:36] little bit on these town properties of

[1:11:38] which we've had dozens and um picked

[1:11:42] away at a few last time to put them in

[1:11:46] um article 93 conservation. So that's

[1:11:48] all taken care of. So um we've been

[1:11:51] looking at a few that the that there's

[1:11:53] no problems with the title that the town

[1:11:55] could move forward with. Three of these

[1:11:58] are very very tiny.

[1:12:01] little little lots. Um

[1:12:04] >> are they next to each other? They could

[1:12:05] be grouped up.

[1:12:06] >> No, no, no. You got you got Burnham

[1:12:08] Road, Skill Center Road, Cross Road, and

[1:12:11] Four Mile Brook Road. So, none of them

[1:12:13] are, but one of them is, you know, 0.06.

[1:12:16] I mean,

[1:12:17] >> now the reason to release them to the

[1:12:19] Karen Cussy, the select board, is

[1:12:20] because the select board can then

[1:12:22] determine what to do with them. Treasure

[1:12:24] just sits on them. She can't conserve

[1:12:26] them. She can't sell them to an ab

[1:12:28] butter. she can't do anything with them.

[1:12:31] Um, but the select board are the only

[1:12:33] ones that can do anything with town

[1:12:35] property. So, by getting them moved to

[1:12:38] the select board, each one of these

[1:12:39] could be dealt with potentially in an

[1:12:42] appropriate manner. These are just the

[1:12:44] ones that were deed to the town or have

[1:12:45] a clear uh title. These four on the

[1:12:48] next.

[1:12:49] >> Okay.

[1:12:49] >> And we can discuss them each

[1:12:50] individually at a future meeting. I just

[1:12:52] wanted to put them on there.

[1:12:53] >> Mhm.

[1:12:54] >> Because we keep putting them off and I'd

[1:12:56] love to see some of this stuff go back

[1:12:58] on the tax role um rather than sit for

[1:13:02] decades.

[1:13:03] >> Well, we did a successful chunk of these

[1:13:05] last year that were related.

[1:13:08] >> Um

[1:13:10] I don't know if anyone had a chance to

[1:13:12] take a look at the handout. Oh, I'm sure sure you guys looked at it, but

[1:13:17] the um the ones that were highlighted,

[1:13:20] three out of those are less than an

[1:13:22] acre.

[1:13:24] 0063

[1:13:27] 69. And then there's one property on

[1:13:29] four four mile brook that's over 7 acres

[1:13:32] that could be sold. So, it doesn't one

[1:13:36] of these things is not like the others.

[1:13:38] So, three are very small parcels that

[1:13:42] perhaps a neighbor would be.

[1:13:43] >> That's often what happens. Or in the one

[1:13:46] case, the Gil Center Road one. Um,

[1:13:49] >> yeah,

[1:13:49] >> that's really should be uh combined with

[1:13:52] the cemetery that the town owns next to

[1:13:54] it. It's one that literally goes down

[1:13:56] the hill. Like it says 63, but it's it's

[1:13:59] literally

[1:14:00] >> that's the piece that's on the corner of

[1:14:02] the very corner

[1:14:02] >> the main road in Route 10.

[1:14:04] >> And then right next to it is the

[1:14:05] cemetery which the 10. So the point is

[1:14:07] if the select board got it into their

[1:14:09] care and custody, you could then we

[1:14:11] could then just do an ANR and put the

[1:14:12] pieces together and make it essentially

[1:14:14] part of the cemetery. Okay.

[1:14:16] >> Rather than have it hanging out there

[1:14:17] >> and a cemetery we actually own too,

[1:14:19] right?

[1:14:19] >> Yes. Yes. That's why we put together

[1:14:22] >> but make it could be used as a cemetery

[1:14:24] or is it not?

[1:14:25] >> I don't I haven't walked it enough to

[1:14:27] see whether you could Well, a little bit

[1:14:29] of land and then drops. So there might

[1:14:31] potentially be some room there. I don't

[1:14:33] know. I didn't I haven't walked it. I

[1:14:34] mean it's something you could explore

[1:14:36] it. It is and but the idea is to put it

[1:14:38] together call it part of the cemetery

[1:14:40] and then it's

[1:14:41] >> preserved

[1:14:42] >> and then it's off the rolls.

[1:14:43] >> Correct. And we can say it's been it's

[1:14:45] been taken from the treasurer otherwise

[1:14:47] it sits in the treasure.

[1:14:48] >> So some of these smaller ones as far as

[1:14:49] we know once we take it off maybe a

[1:14:51] letter sent out to an audience

[1:14:54] what happens you know give you first

[1:14:56] write a refusal or something like that.

[1:14:58] you can just reach out and say, "Are you

[1:14:59] interested in this property?" And and

[1:15:01] sometimes the butter just will add it as

[1:15:03] a

[1:15:04] >> because really it's not a building.

[1:15:05] Nobody could actually build on it

[1:15:06] because they're less than one.

[1:15:07] >> They're small. They're nonbuildable.

[1:15:09] >> Okay. Except that one acre one

[1:15:12] >> except for that one, right? But they've

[1:15:14] been sitting on this one for

[1:15:17] >> So just so uh Shane's familiar,

[1:15:20] >> years. These we started on these last

[1:15:23] year because they had been sitting on

[1:15:26] the books for like a couple of decades.

[1:15:28] >> I think we attempted to take care of all

[1:15:31] of them a couple of years ago or maybe

[1:15:33] half of them and there was a lot of push

[1:15:35] back from people about

[1:15:38] having to turn them over to the

[1:15:39] [laughter] select.

[1:15:40] >> So that's why we did small we're doing

[1:15:42] >> so then we're doing smaller chunks that

[1:15:43] are easier to explain and then people

[1:15:45] are like oh okay I get it. So, um, we

[1:15:48] had our first successful chunk at last

[1:15:50] year's, um, town meeting. So, that's

[1:15:53] why. So, now we're just kind of looking

[1:15:55] at the next chunk and it's really the

[1:15:58] what I'm calling like the itty bitty

[1:15:59] properties and then the um,

[1:16:01] >> or very clear title that the town has.

[1:16:04] Some of them have some other

[1:16:05] >> title issues

[1:16:06] >> issues that we have to clear up.

[1:16:09] >> Yeah.

[1:16:10] Um, any other thoughts on that? Do you

[1:16:12] guys want to see that on the fall town

[1:16:15] meeting? Do you feel that's a reasonable

[1:16:17] explanation?

[1:16:18] >> Sure.

[1:16:19] >> Long as it's small.

[1:16:21] >> Well, you have one that would be a

[1:16:22] building lot,

[1:16:23] >> the 7 acre one,

[1:16:25] >> right?

[1:16:25] >> Do you guys want to do that in the fall

[1:16:27] or do you want to do that one separately

[1:16:29] in

[1:16:29] >> It's nice to move them so that they get

[1:16:31] back on the tax.

[1:16:32] >> I would have that one off because that's

[1:16:34] a sellable piece of property. I would

[1:16:36] lump the other ones together cuz

[1:16:38] >> it's

[1:16:39] >> they're not buildable,

[1:16:40] >> right?

[1:16:41] >> That's just my spin. Yeah,

[1:16:43] >> I think we have to do them individually,

[1:16:45] don't we?

[1:16:46] >> No, they go one article.

[1:16:48] >> Oh, in one article. Yeah. Then the

[1:16:49] seventh one.

[1:16:51] >> Oh, yeah. Well, they're going to be done

[1:16:52] differently in your in your ultimate

[1:16:54] disposition. Yes. You would decide.

[1:16:56] >> All that does is a release to be able to

[1:16:58] do something

[1:17:00] >> because right now nobody can do anything

[1:17:01] with it. The treasurer just sits on it.

[1:17:03] The select.

[1:17:04] >> How many others do we have beside that?

[1:17:05] Are there quite more?

[1:17:08] Well, but some of these are are not

[1:17:10] going to some of them we can't actually

[1:17:12] I don't think you'll ever discover them.

[1:17:13] Some of them it turns out we don't

[1:17:15] actually know who owns them and so

[1:17:17] they've been lumped into the town's care

[1:17:19] into the town's file.

[1:17:21] >> But some of these but they're tiny

[1:17:22] little parcels on the ridge.17 owner

[1:17:25] unknown.17

[1:17:27] owner unknown.

[1:17:29] >> I don't think the town will ever be able

[1:17:30] to do anything with those

[1:17:32] >> except if there if there's a neighboring

[1:17:34] not

[1:17:35] >> you can't transfer them if you don't own

[1:17:36] clear town. That's true.

[1:17:37] >> Can you take them by eminent domain? Is

[1:17:39] that

[1:17:39] >> you could Okay.

[1:17:40] >> You could and the problem with that so

[1:17:44] that they could then go to an abuter who

[1:17:45] might be in

[1:17:46] >> correct. That's the only way we could to

[1:17:48] me would be put them together and talk

[1:17:50] about that.

[1:17:51] >> That's a whole another chunk.

[1:17:52] >> Correct.

[1:17:52] >> Okay.

[1:17:53] >> Next year.

[1:17:54] >> Okay. So, what's the consensus so far on this warrant one that we do the itty

[1:17:59] bitty chunk and then um do the seven

[1:18:01] acre one in the annual or you want to

[1:18:05] >> I would do it all at once. And again,

[1:18:07] disposition all this does is takes them

[1:18:08] out of there and allows you but I also

[1:18:11] know what the um the push back has been

[1:18:14] to

[1:18:14] >> what's the push back?

[1:18:16] >> Oh, on the seven one you can put it up

[1:18:18] for auction.

[1:18:19] >> Yes.

[1:18:20] >> And then if they want it, they can bid

[1:18:22] on it.

[1:18:23] >> Okay. So, do you

[1:18:24] >> They don't bid, they can keep their

[1:18:25] mouth shut.

[1:18:26] >> I'm just Okay.

[1:18:28] >> Well, okay. So, you guys, let me do it

[1:18:31] this way. Are you in favor of putting

[1:18:33] all four together in one um warrant

[1:18:36] article?

[1:18:38] >> Yeah.

[1:18:38] >> Well, let's if you want to just so that

[1:18:40] we get the three through and then put

[1:18:42] the other one separate

[1:18:44] >> as a separate article.

[1:18:46] >> It does the same thing.

[1:18:48] >> I know it does the same thing. I'm just

[1:18:50] thinking that Yeah. Again, the

[1:18:52] disposition as far as doing that uh

[1:18:54] would be now that we can do something

[1:18:56] with it. If you decide that the other

[1:18:57] ones, the first the small ones that are

[1:19:00] not buildable,

[1:19:01] >> you would offer them maybe to the

[1:19:03] neighbor or

[1:19:04] >> Yeah. So,

[1:19:05] >> and then this this the seven acre one,

[1:19:07] you got to make sure it's a building

[1:19:09] lot. I would say

[1:19:10] >> it's a building lot.

[1:19:11] >> Okay. So, and then you have the town

[1:19:13] auction that off.

[1:19:14] >> Yes. I'm just talking about the warrant

[1:19:16] article itself transferring the care and

[1:19:20] custody from the treasurer to the select

[1:19:22] board

[1:19:24] >> because

[1:19:25] so when David said what do you say cav

[1:19:28] off the um the

[1:19:30] >> offer what do you mean by the cving out

[1:19:32] >> make that its own thing in in the autumn

[1:19:36] >> in a separate article?

[1:19:37] >> Yep. Because I just my impression is

[1:19:40] someone in town is going to be like,

[1:19:41] "Wait, you're trying to lump all these

[1:19:42] small ones with this big one and it's

[1:19:43] going to create a

[1:19:46] perception.

[1:19:46] >> We got three tiny pieces."

[1:19:47] >> I'm with David on that one.

[1:19:50] >> You single it out.

[1:19:51] >> So perception you had to Okay.

[1:19:54] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Sorry, I wasn't

[1:19:55] clear on that. David just do it that way

[1:19:59] >> because otherwise you have all this

[1:20:00] discussion about three itty bitty things

[1:20:02] and really the the main issue is might

[1:20:05] be with the seven acre one. So in

[1:20:07] explaining that the first one these are

[1:20:09] small unbuild unbuildable

[1:20:12] partials

[1:20:12] >> the itty bitty article and then the next

[1:20:14] one will be the seven.

[1:20:17] Yeah this is a buildable piece of

[1:20:18] property that we'll be looking at

[1:20:20] disposable maybe through auction

[1:20:23] >> or I don't even know

[1:20:24] >> you have to there's only two ways to

[1:20:25] sell a person piece of property but but

[1:20:27] the nice I mean what we're trying to say

[1:20:28] is you know people

[1:20:29] >> talk about taxes and revenue and this is

[1:20:32] it's nice to get this revenue into the

[1:20:34] town. We're sitting on this for a dozen

[1:20:36] years. have been sitting on this, no

[1:20:37] taxes being paid and certainly no one

[1:20:39] building a house on it, which is more

[1:20:41] taxes. So, we're trying to there's a

[1:20:42] ways to do revenue with this getting

[1:20:44] even the little bitty ones getting added

[1:20:46] add a small portion of taxes back on the

[1:20:48] tax rate.

[1:20:48] >> Okay.

[1:20:50] >> I understand what you're saying then,

[1:20:51] sir.

[1:20:51] >> Okay, good. Thanks for translating,

[1:20:54] David. The um so it's two articles then.

[1:20:57] Anything else on that? You guys good

[1:20:59] with that?

[1:21:00] >> I'm good with it.

[1:21:00] >> Okay, cool. Let's do that.

[1:21:04] uh moratorum

[1:21:06] >> article three.

[1:21:07] >> And so we're going to this sounds like

[1:21:08] the planning board is going to be

[1:21:10] delivering some language to us on

[1:21:13] article 3 4

[1:21:17] >> three and four

[1:21:18] >> four five will be taken care of

[1:21:25] expenses for the planning board legal

[1:21:27] consulting expenses 50,000 more. Have we

[1:21:31] got any final?

[1:21:33] >> I don't have all the bills yet, but I

[1:21:34] >> So that might change.

[1:21:35] >> So that might go up.

[1:21:36] >> That's as high as it's going to get.

[1:21:38] Well,

[1:21:38] >> that's the worst case scenario.

[1:21:40] >> That's what I'm saying right now. But I

[1:21:41] think

[1:21:42] >> until I see the bills for the next plus,

[1:21:44] we have another meeting this week, so

[1:21:47] we're still expending legal fees, but um

[1:21:51] hoping so the hope is that this is the

[1:21:53] worst case scenario, but that's the

[1:21:54] placeholder amount for now.

[1:21:57] >> Okay. And then article six is um we're

[1:22:01] catching up on

[1:22:04] $6725.

[1:22:07] They explained how that got

[1:22:08] >> Yeah, it was kind of a short

[1:22:09] >> there's a change in hours that didn't

[1:22:11] get translated into the budget sheet

[1:22:13] that calculated it. So the rate and the

[1:22:15] person are fine,

[1:22:16] >> but the hours got bumped up and so we

[1:22:18] calculated it at the old hours.

[1:22:20] >> Okay.

[1:22:21] >> Mhm.

[1:22:21] >> So that's just to correct that.

[1:22:23] >> Is that for that's for FY27 budget?

[1:22:26] >> That's this current year. Yes. Okay. All

[1:22:27] right. I have put down six. Okay. Um,

[1:22:32] payment in lie of taxes.

[1:22:34] >> So, this article is from the assessor's

[1:22:37] office. Okay.

[1:22:38] >> If you'll recall, some of you,

[1:22:39] >> maybe none of you because it would have

[1:22:41] actually been at the beginning of most

[1:22:42] of your time.

[1:22:43] >> Um, the town used to have a tax

[1:22:45] valuation agreement with First Light.

[1:22:48] >> Yes.

[1:22:48] >> I think it was three years. um as

[1:22:51] opposed to what we do now which is hire

[1:22:55] a consultant who does a very expensive

[1:22:57] because it's very specialized uh

[1:22:59] valuation of first light we have to

[1:23:01] split it with Gil and Irving but it

[1:23:05] costs quite a bit of money and then that

[1:23:07] valuation comes in the town uses that

[1:23:10] valuation to assess the taxes and then

[1:23:13] first light appeals so then we hire a

[1:23:16] tax lawyer to go to the appellet tax

[1:23:18] board and we spend quite quite a bit of

[1:23:20] money and time at the appellet tax board

[1:23:23] and then the appella tax board comes

[1:23:24] down with its decision and this is

[1:23:26] typical somewhere in the middle. They

[1:23:29] don't tend to go either way and then we

[1:23:32] have to in order for them to to appe to

[1:23:34] uh file they have to pay. So then we

[1:23:36] have to give them back the difference

[1:23:38] plus interest on their money that we've

[1:23:41] been technically holding. So between

[1:23:44] hiring the expensive consultant, hiring

[1:23:46] the appellet tax board lawyer and paying

[1:23:49] back that money with interest, we've

[1:23:51] determined assessors feel that's a very

[1:23:54] expensive route to take year after year. So this is only talking

[1:24:02] about how to assess taxes to first

[1:24:06] light. That's it.

[1:24:08] So the question is do we continue to do

[1:24:10] the same process that we have for the

[1:24:12] last couple years or do we consider a

[1:24:14] tax valuation agreement which the town

[1:24:17] has done prior? The assessor's office

[1:24:20] feel that it's a that is a much better

[1:24:24] solution um to move forward on the tax

[1:24:27] valuation and it's based on this it's

[1:24:30] based on you know the

[1:24:32] >> the history it's based on the fact that

[1:24:33] we have had valuations done by the

[1:24:35] consultant. They're not making up some

[1:24:38] number and it's an agreement. They're

[1:24:39] working it out. They're having

[1:24:40] consultation and we have lawyers

[1:24:42] involved and then we settle on an

[1:24:43] agreement for like three years.

[1:24:46] >> I was going to ask you how what

[1:24:48] >> I think they're looking at at least

[1:24:48] three years

[1:24:50] >> and they're working with Gil and Irving

[1:24:52] on this.

[1:24:52] >> Oh, okay. Good.

[1:24:53] >> Everybody would be

[1:24:55] correct. Okay.

[1:24:56] >> So, but in order to accept it,

[1:24:59] >> town meeting has to say yes and then the

[1:25:01] select board has to sign it.

[1:25:02] >> Do the other towns also have to do an

[1:25:04] article too? Yes.

[1:25:05] >> Okay.

[1:25:07] >> So anyway, so that's what this article

[1:25:09] is. It's from the assessors of

[1:25:11] >> do a pilot. Does that mean the other two

[1:25:13] towns have to do a pilot as well? It

[1:25:15] >> it it's not really Yes. Yeah. They we

[1:25:18] would all come to the same agreement.

[1:25:19] They'd have their shares. So we'd all

[1:25:21] have a three-year agreement to do this.

[1:25:24] >> But if Northfield,

[1:25:25] >> they could choose to back out. Urban

[1:25:27] could say, "Never mind. We're going to

[1:25:28] go the same route." and but we'd have

[1:25:29] ours and they would agree to that

[1:25:32] Northfield's

[1:25:33] valuation will be this cuz they are

[1:25:35] three different valuations. We've just

[1:25:36] been sharing the consultant because

[1:25:38] that's the best way and the consultant

[1:25:40] does all of them.

[1:25:41] >> So that then [clears throat] once you

[1:25:43] have this you would need a consultant or

[1:25:44] you negotiate every 3 years.

[1:25:46] >> Every three years you'll renegotiate. So

[1:25:48] yeah, you'd still look at the values.

[1:25:49] They'd still be assessing that they'd

[1:25:51] still you're not trapped with something

[1:25:53] in forever and never it's three years.

[1:25:56] So three years is a I would like to see

[1:25:59] it five years but three years is kind of

[1:26:00] the way to go.

[1:26:02] >> I think there three years has been the

[1:26:03] past because you can have huge

[1:26:05] fluctuations. What if they all of a

[1:26:06] sudden in the five years within the

[1:26:08] after 3 years build some big new piece

[1:26:09] of the plant. You'd want to capture

[1:26:11] that.

[1:26:11] >> Yeah.

[1:26:12] >> You don't want to go too far out.

[1:26:14] >> So there's got to be a clause someplace

[1:26:15] when you're doing the negotiations if

[1:26:17] you add dollar that we negotiate right

[1:26:20] now right then and there.

[1:26:22] I yeah, I haven't seen the new

[1:26:24] agreement, so I don't know what's in

[1:26:25] there. Obviously, if you doubled the

[1:26:27] size, I'm sure there's something in

[1:26:28] there, but um but this is something that

[1:26:31] the assessor's office has done before

[1:26:33] and feels much more worth the process.

[1:26:36] >> The beauty of it, you're guaranteed

[1:26:38] payment for 3 years.

[1:26:39] >> Three years. And you know what it's

[1:26:40] going to be. You can budget it. You can

[1:26:43] count on it. You don't have to spend

[1:26:44] money on the lawyers or the consultants

[1:26:47] >> in tax or worry about the interest or

[1:26:50] >> the time to negotiate.

[1:26:52] >> We have to these are not like brief

[1:26:54] negotiations.

[1:26:55] >> If you recall, some of you may have been

[1:26:57] on the board when we had to come up with

[1:26:58] like 80ome,000

[1:27:00] in interest.

[1:27:02] >> Do you remember that discussion? I think

[1:27:04] I repressed it.

[1:27:05] >> I It was on the Yes.

[1:27:07] >> Because when the tax appellet court says

[1:27:09] no, it's not your amount, it's not their

[1:27:11] amount, it's this amount. We have to

[1:27:12] give back the difference and interest at

[1:27:15] like 14%. 12 or 14%.

[1:27:18] >> It was not a fun thing to have.

[1:27:19] >> No. No.

[1:27:20] >> And that's why he put it separate on

[1:27:21] >> and you can pretty much count on the

[1:27:22] fact the tax board's never going to come

[1:27:24] down 100% on your side. So no matter

[1:27:26] what happens, you're probably going to

[1:27:28] be paying some interest.

[1:27:29] >> Okay.

[1:27:30] >> I think it's probably

[1:27:31] >> So again, the article is just how do we

[1:27:33] tax the first light pump storage

[1:27:37] energy? That's it. That's all this is

[1:27:40] about is a taxing methodology

[1:27:41] >> and they're going to have an agreement

[1:27:43] ready when

[1:27:45] >> they're in negotiations now. I can't

[1:27:47] tell you exactly but this would allow

[1:27:49] the minute the agreement's valid for

[1:27:52] >> the both boards to sign the

[1:27:54] >> Okay, that's the next question. Okay,

[1:27:57] >> you wait till May.

[1:27:59] >> Okay. All right. Let's try and get that

[1:28:01] done. Okay. And then article 8 was um a

[1:28:04] lawn mower.

[1:28:05] >> Correct. we have um for the for the town

[1:28:08] hall. So, not the not

[1:28:11] >> not a big one. Just say lawn mower for

[1:28:13] >> Well, I mean, it's a riding mower, but the most recent we've spent quite a

[1:28:17] bit of money on repairs for the mower

[1:28:20] deck, the belt. It doesn't include that

[1:28:22] the bagger doesn't work, that we need

[1:28:24] new tires. Um, so we're putting we're

[1:28:26] putting money into this.

[1:28:28] >> I don't think that was as old as you

[1:28:30] told me it was, though.

[1:28:32] >> Well, it's got it's got a good 15 years

[1:28:34] on it. All right. Do you want to like

[1:28:36] dive into the lawnmower details?

[1:28:40] >> Do I?

[1:28:40] >> Sorry. Yeah.

[1:28:41] >> No, he doesn't.

[1:28:42] >> No, I don't want to do it, but I

[1:28:43] [laughter] I I do recall

[1:28:46] >> I do recall it it being damaged and I

[1:28:49] don't think they replace they

[1:28:51] >> Can you just come back with a quote?

[1:28:54] >> Well, I have a quote.

[1:28:55] >> Oh, okay. Good.

[1:28:56] >> That's why we got

[1:28:57] >> We're not just like Is that a quote from

[1:29:00] Okay,

[1:29:01] >> that's

[1:29:02] >> okay. I know somebody's going to argue

[1:29:03] about it, but um

[1:29:04] >> Yes.

[1:29:05] >> Okay.

[1:29:06] >> And we were adding up the cost of

[1:29:07] getting this one back in shape, and we

[1:29:09] just weren't sure that it made sense to

[1:29:11] >> Well, if you're spending $2,000 to fix

[1:29:14] it up and get a new

[1:29:15] >> Oh, I don't think it'd be that much, but

[1:29:16] even if it had a,000, how long?

[1:29:19] >> We're good. [laughter]

[1:29:20] >> That's right.

[1:29:21] >> It's 3,800 bucks.

[1:29:23] >> It is

[1:29:24] >> for a lawn mower.

[1:29:25] >> Okay. for a rider. We'll have a picture

[1:29:28] and and probably need some I don't know.

[1:29:32] >> Okay. Uh article 9 will be 12,000 to

[1:29:36] make repairs to a highway department

[1:29:38] sander. This is going to be transferred

[1:29:41] from an account that we already had some

[1:29:43] money in. So in 2026 you

[1:29:47] >> which I think he's gotten now. I think

[1:29:49] he mentioned or maybe the new truck.

[1:29:51] Yep.

[1:29:51] >> We had a $200,000 article.

[1:29:53] >> Yeah. and we've spent 156 of that. So,

[1:29:57] he's asking to have this $12,000

[1:30:01] um transferred from that already

[1:30:04] appropriated account.

[1:30:05] >> Yep.

[1:30:05] >> Um to repair and change the direction of

[1:30:08] the sander for plowing.

[1:30:10] >> Oh, so we're transferring from an

[1:30:12] appropriated account

[1:30:14] >> to another account.

[1:30:16] >> Correct. Okay.

[1:30:17] >> Because it was voted for that truck, we

[1:30:19] can't spend it on the sand this sand.

[1:30:21] have to have town meeting tell us it's

[1:30:23] okay.

[1:30:23] >> It's a transfer. So, we're doing using

[1:30:25] the money for the right purpose. Got it.

[1:30:27] >> Have you just transferred just normally?

[1:30:29] >> No, because it's a special article.

[1:30:31] >> Oh, that's right. It's an article.

[1:30:32] >> Yep. Yep. Okay. Article 10 is 24,000 to

[1:30:35] purchase a new equipment trailer. Is

[1:30:37] this for highway as well?

[1:30:38] >> We would also be transferring it from

[1:30:40] that same account.

[1:30:41] >> That's a transfer as well.

[1:30:42] >> Correct.

[1:30:43] >> Oh. Oh. Oh.

[1:30:43] >> We had 200. We spent 155. The 12 took us

[1:30:46] to leaving 32. And

[1:30:48] >> we're waiting on the We're waiting on

[1:30:49] the language. 24 would mean we'd still

[1:30:51] have about $8,200 that we'd probably

[1:30:52] turn back into the town.

[1:30:54] >> Pay for the new lawnmower.

[1:30:56] >> You can.

[1:30:58] >> Oh, can we transfer extra and do the

[1:30:59] lawnmower?

[1:31:00] >> Sure.

[1:31:01] >> Why don't we do that?

[1:31:01] >> You can once you take you can do that.

[1:31:03] >> You thought it was a joke. I'm like,

[1:31:05] >> "No, no, you can do that."

[1:31:06] >> Shame your genius.

[1:31:08] >> Thank you.

[1:31:11] >> Because once you go to town meeting, you

[1:31:12] can take those funds and vote them for

[1:31:14] anything.

[1:31:14] >> Is there enough left in that to be able

[1:31:16] to

[1:31:16] >> Oh, yeah. With both of these highway

[1:31:18] department transfers, there's still

[1:31:19] 8,200.

[1:31:21] >> So, we could do the 3,800 from that

[1:31:23] account.

[1:31:23] >> Well, that's

[1:31:25] >> okay.

[1:31:25] >> That'd be a smart move like that.

[1:31:27] >> Then it's no new appropriation,

[1:31:29] >> right?

[1:31:29] >> Or free cash.

[1:31:31] >> Okay. So, we need to finalize these this

[1:31:35] entire warrant by I'm looking at the

[1:31:38] calendar by

[1:31:41] um my calendar meeting is Thursday,

[1:31:44] November 19th. Right. So,

[1:31:47] >> the select board signs said warrant on

[1:31:50] October 27th. So, we this is not our

[1:31:54] first and only gander at this. Okay.

[1:31:57] >> We'll have language next time. Right.

[1:31:59] >> Right. Correct. So, we're still working.

[1:32:01] We've got the and then we're going to

[1:32:02] Shane, we're going to get to what you

[1:32:04] had mentioned. Uh but article 11 and 12

[1:32:08] are sewer,

[1:32:09] >> right? And I just heard about them

[1:32:10] today. So, he's supposed to be getting

[1:32:12] me the details tomorrow.

[1:32:13] >> Okay.

[1:32:14] >> Um

[1:32:15] >> All right. And then we talked earlier

[1:32:17] about having a revolving funds account

[1:32:19] for fire department inspection.

[1:32:20] >> Correct. And that's 13

[1:32:22] >> instead of keeping an account line open

[1:32:24] on the fire department budget

[1:32:26] >> and appropriating it every year.

[1:32:27] >> Yep. Yep. Good. Okay. And then

[1:32:30] >> how the inspections are they to do the

[1:32:32] tanks and that sort of thing?

[1:32:34] >> It's of uh smoke alarms. Every time

[1:32:37] someone sells a house and has to have

[1:32:38] smoke alarms put in or any any

[1:32:40] inspection or permit that they have to

[1:32:42] issue. So yes, it would be any

[1:32:44] protection or

[1:32:44] >> permit it.

[1:32:45] >> So when the town clerk sends out the uh

[1:32:48] flammables

[1:32:50] uh certification as far as doing that

[1:32:52] the money comes back in and we or

[1:32:56] >> well it depends. I I don't know that

[1:32:57] certificate in spec if that one's a town

[1:32:59] and it's made out to the well it may be

[1:33:01] made out to the town but yes if we pay a

[1:33:03] person to go do that from the fire

[1:33:04] department because they're inspect it's

[1:33:07] probably we're already paying them. We

[1:33:10] just are depositing the one check and

[1:33:12] then taking it out of an appropriate.

[1:33:13] >> So it should be going into that fund.

[1:33:14] >> It should be a revolving. Yeah,

[1:33:15] >> it should be going into this fund.

[1:33:16] >> So when it comes in, it goes out. It

[1:33:18] comes in.

[1:33:18] >> So that will be done by uh tax collector

[1:33:21] or not tax collector but

[1:33:22] >> revolving funds are managed by the

[1:33:24] accounting department.

[1:33:25] >> So So when she puts that out and she

[1:33:27] marks it flammables and they're $200

[1:33:29] $300 that's going to go into this fund

[1:33:31] now.

[1:33:33] >> Yeah. I'm not Yeah, I'm not sure that I'd have to know what that permit

[1:33:36] is. I can't speak to that permit, but it

[1:33:38] >> supposed to be inspections of flammable,

[1:33:40] >> right? And some some portion of

[1:33:42] >> Can we just take a note

[1:33:44] >> and and go over that with Amanda and

[1:33:46] with Mike Quinn if needed?

[1:33:48] >> Yeah, some of them

[1:33:49] >> as to whether what would fall under

[1:33:51] here. I was thinking mostly this was on

[1:33:53] the to-do list from the fire department

[1:33:55] perspective because we're we actually

[1:33:58] have a line item in their budget that

[1:34:00] really should be a revolving account

[1:34:02] similar to like what the wreck does when

[1:34:05] somebody signs up for a program.

[1:34:07] >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that the

[1:34:09] funds are going into the right place

[1:34:10] that this is being uh

[1:34:12] >> but since we can't answer that right

[1:34:14] now, if we could just take an action

[1:34:15] item to get to the bottom of that and

[1:34:17] then make sure we've got an appropriate

[1:34:20] description, that would be great. fire

[1:34:21] department officers paid to do that

[1:34:23] inspection, then this fund would go in

[1:34:24] this account.

[1:34:25] >> Okay. All right. Anything else? Uh

[1:34:28] Shane, you were talking about a topic.

[1:34:32] You wanted something on the fall town

[1:34:35] meeting um warrant article before we

[1:34:38] because we're effectively cutting this

[1:34:40] off.

[1:34:42] And um do you want to

[1:34:46] >> Yeah, I looked

[1:34:46] >> I just want to give you some information

[1:34:47] on it too now that we're in the public

[1:34:49] meeting. [laughter]

[1:34:50] So go ahead.

[1:34:51] >> Yeah.

[1:34:52] >> So I've been I've heard from a lot of

[1:34:55] people and I'm actually in agreement

[1:34:56] with going to an electronic uh voting

[1:34:59] system for town meeting. Um it's going

[1:35:01] to cut down the amount of time that

[1:35:03] takes to go through town meeting.

[1:35:05] >> Yep.

[1:35:06] >> Um it's going to make things more

[1:35:07] accurate and the results are right up in

[1:35:09] front of you. Um the cost of the systems

[1:35:12] are about $15,000

[1:35:14] all in with two or 300 clickers and it's

[1:35:18] something that we could share with other

[1:35:19] towns as well because we don't have town

[1:35:20] meetings on the same day.

[1:35:22] >> So I I've had quite a lengthy

[1:35:24] conversation with Amanda over months

[1:35:26] over this because we've gone back and

[1:35:27] forth. So there's a couple of things

[1:35:31] that we had to look at. Um if you if you

[1:35:37] >> there's a programming fee. So lending

[1:35:38] them to another town meeting. See

[1:35:40] >> before we get into electronic voting

[1:35:42] details.

[1:35:44] >> I don't think this actually needs to be

[1:35:45] on the town meeting because we talked I

[1:35:48] went back and I looked at the minutes.

[1:35:50] >> We actually talked about this topic.

[1:35:54] >> Three times last year at because another

[1:35:58] select board member raised it and wanted

[1:35:59] to move [clears throat] it forward. And

[1:36:01] the uh details and the suggestion from

[1:36:03] the select board was

[1:36:06] to lay out the costs, to do the pros and

[1:36:08] cons, to talk to the town clerk, town

[1:36:11] moderator, have vendor demos, and then

[1:36:14] come back with a proposal that would go

[1:36:16] on the

[1:36:18] into possibly the operating budget and

[1:36:21] the capital budget. So, I'm not sure we

[1:36:24] need to do it on the town meeting

[1:36:26] warrants per se as much as just

[1:36:28] following the

[1:36:29] >> Well, you wouldn't be doing it for this

[1:36:31] fall probably because I don't think we

[1:36:33] have that information.

[1:36:34] >> Yeah. What we were waiting on

[1:36:36] >> Yeah.

[1:36:36] >> previously was we just kept asking,

[1:36:39] "Well, do you have any figures? Do you

[1:36:40] have any details?"

[1:36:41] >> I do.

[1:36:42] >> Well, they they never did. That's why we

[1:36:44] never moved on it.

[1:36:46] >> Right. There's But there's two options.

[1:36:50] >> There's owning everything. Correct.

[1:36:51] paying the annual cost for the software

[1:36:54] and fees and how much equipment you're

[1:36:55] going to own and then there's just

[1:36:57] hiring them to come and they bring

[1:36:58] everything and do everything. So the I

[1:37:01] don't know which which company this is.

[1:37:03] The one that I looked at I asked that

[1:37:05] question. There is no year-to-year fees.

[1:37:08] >> You have to pay for the software. That

[1:37:10] was the orange turned over invoice.

[1:37:12] >> This is

[1:37:12] >> okay. So

[1:37:13] >> there's there's probably multiple

[1:37:14] companies that do it. So

[1:37:15] >> yeah, this is the big one.

[1:37:17] >> So we're not opposed to it.

[1:37:19] >> Um actually the town clerk has met with

[1:37:23] some vendors at her town.

[1:37:24] >> She went and she spoke with these guys.

[1:37:26] Meridia, this is kind of the big boy on

[1:37:28] the block. I'll have to look at the

[1:37:29] company. I'll send you the information

[1:37:30] of the one that I talked with.

[1:37:31] >> Yeah. But um but it was pretty clear

[1:37:33] that we saw there's an annual fee

[1:37:36] because you have to pay for the

[1:37:37] software.

[1:37:37] >> I did ask that question. This company

[1:37:39] that I was talking to did not have an

[1:37:40] annual fee and I have it on in the

[1:37:42] annual that they did not because that's

[1:37:45] one of the questions is is there an

[1:37:46] annual fee? Is there maintenance

[1:37:47] clauses? And the answer was no one. No.

[1:37:50] >> Yeah. I don't think there's a

[1:37:51] maintenance thing. But

[1:37:52] >> so who programs the uh computer then

[1:37:54] that

[1:37:55] >> they it's all programmed. It has to be

[1:37:57] programmed every time you have

[1:37:58] >> every year. He every town meeting you

[1:38:01] he'd have he'd have to program it.

[1:38:03] >> I'll ask that question.

[1:38:04] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:38:05] >> Without going into the weeds on it.

[1:38:07] >> I'm all for it.

[1:38:09] >> But there's also Well, there's a bunch

[1:38:11] of questions. I mean, if you go, you

[1:38:13] can't just buy a couple hundred because

[1:38:15] we have some we've had some town

[1:38:16] meetings where we had 500 people. I

[1:38:18] understand they're the more unusual, but

[1:38:19] they're also the more complicated ones

[1:38:21] when you probably would want to use.

[1:38:22] >> So 500 cookers was the first price they

[1:38:24] gave you that was $20,000.

[1:38:26] >> Yeah. And the problem with that

[1:38:27] partially for us is we don't have a

[1:38:29] place to put 500 clickers in the

[1:38:32] building securely.

[1:38:34] >> Can can

[1:38:34] >> So I mean we were just looking at all

[1:38:36] the logistics. [clears throat]

[1:38:37] >> We're basically

[1:38:39] no offense to you.

[1:38:42] We're basically having the same

[1:38:43] discussion. We had at least two select

[1:38:46] board meetings last year. And then the

[1:38:48] select board member was going to and we

[1:38:50] had a lot of at the top level

[1:38:56] information similar to this and nobody

[1:38:59] had a problem with it other than come

[1:39:01] back with a proposal and make sure it's

[1:39:04] gone through. I'm just looking at the

[1:39:05] notes. make sure it's um included the

[1:39:08] town clerk cuz you have to look at how

[1:39:10] much

[1:39:12] um what the town clerk needs to do, what

[1:39:14] the election workers need to do, and if

[1:39:16] there's any additional labor associated

[1:39:18] with that. So then we were like that

[1:39:21] would be operating for the new fiscal

[1:39:23] year and then any capital expenses

[1:39:26] associated for the new year. So then it

[1:39:29] would go on the annual town meeting

[1:39:30] because you're actually asking for a new

[1:39:32] potentially new capital expense and

[1:39:35] you're also possibly up upping the town

[1:39:39] clerk budget by a significant amount.

[1:39:41] >> Yeah. Oh, and I had that discussion with

[1:39:42] her. I mean, she she would

[1:39:44] >> I know we just haven't had the

[1:39:45] discussion with Shane, unfortunately.

[1:39:47] >> That was she needs

[1:39:48] >> before Shane.

[1:39:49] >> They have to they have to I will go back

[1:39:51] and look at the meeting minutes. I'll

[1:39:53] find those and read them through and

[1:39:55] >> I'll get my stuff together and get it

[1:39:57] forward. I just wanted to bring it up.

[1:39:59] >> Yeah. No, I'm

[1:40:00] >> and I would Yeah. And talking with um Amanda's a good thing because because

[1:40:06] Amanda is concerned about having these

[1:40:11] storing them, programming them, election

[1:40:14] workers, having to test every one of

[1:40:16] them. Um and that that that's the thing.

[1:40:19] So,

[1:40:20] >> she's not against them where no one's

[1:40:21] against them.

[1:40:22] >> Nobody I just want to make it clear. I

[1:40:24] think everybody's really intrigued and

[1:40:26] wants to go to a demo and wants to get

[1:40:28] to the next step.

[1:40:30] >> Just given the logistics of last year,

[1:40:32] we never got to the next step unless

[1:40:34] somebody stepped up and actually got us

[1:40:36] to the next step. So understood.

[1:40:38] >> And I know that at UMass, for instance,

[1:40:40] in the big lecture halls, you have to

[1:40:42] buy a clicker for class. Oh, as a

[1:40:45] student.

[1:40:45] >> As a student, every student has to have

[1:40:47] a clicker because in all the big

[1:40:48] classes, teachers are asking you

[1:40:50] questions. You have to respond and give

[1:40:51] you. So, it's is exactly the same system

[1:40:54] just in a different application.

[1:40:55] >> So, you have the uh not elected

[1:40:58] officials, but everybody in town

[1:41:00] purchasing a clicker.

[1:41:01] >> No. No. Okay.

[1:41:02] >> The town purchased the clicker. When you

[1:41:04] check in, you get a clicker. Um is the

[1:41:07] way we test it right there on the spot.

[1:41:08] It's yes, no, or abstain. Those are your

[1:41:11] options. And you can they'll put a timer

[1:41:13] up on the wall and you have, you know,

[1:41:14] 30 seconds to make your choice.

[1:41:16] >> Oh yeah, I understand how no

[1:41:18] >> uh but you you've got to factor into the

[1:41:20] budget. Uh what does it actually cost?

[1:41:23] You're going to have initial cost for

[1:41:24] the for the hardware

[1:41:26] >> and the battery things of that nature.

[1:41:29] What it cost for the battery cost to you

[1:41:32] have to program these. It's just like

[1:41:33] programming anything.

[1:41:34] >> Well, you're programming the computer

[1:41:36] for each.

[1:41:37] >> Correct. Yeah. Correct.

[1:41:39] But something somebody has to pay for

[1:41:40] that. So, that's part of it. Um, the

[1:41:43] other half of that is if you you issue a

[1:41:47] wine, you give them a number, you check

[1:41:49] it off their name. If they don't give it

[1:41:51] back at the end of the night, you assess

[1:41:53] them whatever the cost is.

[1:41:54] >> You can't

[1:41:55] >> because or or they have to get it back

[1:41:56] to you.

[1:41:57] >> You have to go get them.

[1:41:58] >> Yeah.

[1:41:59] >> It's it's

[1:42:00] >> I mean, that's that's the the thing is

[1:42:01] you start losing some of these things,

[1:42:03] which people are not the greatest.

[1:42:05] >> No, there's all sorts of logistical.

[1:42:06] >> They should be thrown in a box or

[1:42:08] something like like they do it down at

[1:42:09] Disney. take out the glasses for

[1:42:10] >> I think I think if you could because now

[1:42:14] you have familiarity with it too.

[1:42:15] >> Pick point on it and then I'll move to

[1:42:17] Amanda.

[1:42:17] >> And if you could do the pros and cons

[1:42:19] with Amanda and then um list those out

[1:42:23] because I think there is a pro to the

[1:42:25] rental potentially based on what we

[1:42:27] talked about last year.

[1:42:28] >> So if you could just come back with a

[1:42:30] proposal then we could shepherd it

[1:42:32] through this process.

[1:42:34] >> Yeah. I mean yeah they do have a price

[1:42:35] that you can do and they'll just they

[1:42:36] come in they bring everything they set

[1:42:37] it up. They do it all. They run it. They

[1:42:39] matter and they leave.

[1:42:40] >> No, that'd be great because then you

[1:42:41] could you could factor in, okay, we got

[1:42:43] two town meetings. We figure out what is

[1:42:44] the

[1:42:45] >> Yeah, you do two a year and then if you

[1:42:46] have smaller ones, you could not do

[1:42:47] them. But but there's that's going to be

[1:42:49] a more expensive option over the long

[1:42:54] term. Sure. But it also means you always

[1:42:57] have a piece of the newest equipment.

[1:42:59] >> Yeah. Right. What I'd like to do is just

[1:43:04] » I'm just sensitive to the fact that we

[1:43:07] discussed this so many times last year

[1:43:08] and we could never get off the dime.

[1:43:10] >> I will go back and that's not your

[1:43:11] fault.

[1:43:12] >> I'll go back and read the minutes and

[1:43:13] I'll go from there.

[1:43:14] >> Um,

[1:43:16] and let's just figure out the other

[1:43:18] thing that didn't

[1:43:21] >> Thank you. Perfect.

[1:43:21] >> Yeah. Yeah. It's all because I want I

[1:43:25] actually had Becky print out um minutes

[1:43:27] for the last year because I went back

[1:43:28] and I looked to see what we was

[1:43:31] repeating and also not just for this

[1:43:34] topic but multiple topics. Um, but what

[1:43:37] I wanted to do was just point out the

[1:43:39] calendar which is in the packet that if anybody else has any ideas, the

[1:43:47] capital request forms are due November

[1:43:50] 12th and then the operating budget requests are due on December 9th.

[1:43:57] That was the other thing. It just the

[1:44:00] per everyone's busy. I think the person

[1:44:04] just ran out of time and did not so

[1:44:06] nothing ever got discussed and then

[1:44:08] moved forward to the finance committee.

[1:44:10] I will also tell you that there's

[1:44:12] somebody on the finance committee who's

[1:44:14] very very interested in this topic.

[1:44:17] >> Um

[1:44:19] >> I'm sure I'll be hearing from them as

[1:44:20] well after this meeting.

[1:44:22] >> Yes. Well, I'm going to connect the

[1:44:23] dots.

[1:44:24] >> I can guarantee it.

[1:44:25] because it's Lindsay

[1:44:27] McCarthy.

[1:44:28] >> Okay. [laughter]

[1:44:30] >> And she's very interested. We just had a

[1:44:32] discussion the other night. I just went

[1:44:34] through all my notes with her. And so

[1:44:36] then when I saw your email, I'm like

[1:44:38] because you sent it to the whole board,

[1:44:40] I couldn't tell you everything that I

[1:44:41] had already talked about. So anyway, but

[1:44:45] I think we're good. And then um you have

[1:44:47] some citizens who are very interested in

[1:44:49] moving this forward.

[1:44:50] >> They've already reached out to me

[1:44:51] multiple times. So

[1:44:53] >> I've had the same probably the same

[1:44:55] people. Okay, I'm sure.

[1:44:56] >> Okay. Um

[1:44:58] great. Thank you, Shane. I appreciate

[1:45:01] that.

[1:45:02] Okay, we're done with that. Um,

[1:45:05] we're done.

[1:45:05] >> Wanted to do a review of Franklin County

[1:45:08] Technical School building project,

[1:45:11] specifically the cost for Northfield.

[1:45:13] Somebody asked me about that and I said

[1:45:15] I'd put it on the agenda. Um,

[1:45:19] and that's in the packet.

[1:45:22] Do you want to walk us through that? You

[1:45:23] got that from the Franklin County Tech

[1:45:25] School. We talked about this earlier

[1:45:28] this year with with the then

[1:45:30] superintendent,

[1:45:33] >> right? No, I just reached out to the

[1:45:34] business manager.

[1:45:36] >> Okay. She sent back the project cost, what the MSBA is going

[1:45:42] to give, and what the projected final

[1:45:44] financing that then all the towns are

[1:45:45] going to pay. So, I mean, it's a 236.6

[1:45:49] million building.

[1:45:51] Um, MSBA is 113.8 8 million. So that's

[1:45:55] about half.

[1:45:58] And so the projected final estimate for

[1:46:00] the towns uh that are members is 122.8

[1:46:03] million

[1:46:05] >> for the 19 towns that participate

[1:46:07] >> for all of the towns. Correct. The yield

[1:46:09] is 5.52% of that.

[1:46:12] >> Okay.

[1:46:13] >> And this is a 30-year because it ends it ramps up as you do before you do a

[1:46:17] bonding. So they'll some small years and

[1:46:20] then when it gets to that final year

[1:46:22] then it's 30 years from the date you

[1:46:23] bond which they're projecting I think

[1:46:25] their bond is 2031. So it'll run from

[1:46:28] 2031 to 2061. That's the bonding.

[1:46:33] >> So for so for next year so the vote is

[1:46:37] just for the um for the technical school

[1:46:40] to actually borrow. Correct.

[1:46:42] >> Correct. And then um for FY28 the

[1:46:46] projected debt service,

[1:46:48] >> right? Those will be short-term

[1:46:50] >> or shortterm. So that's 12,787.

[1:46:54] Fiscal year 29 it goes up to 191 152.

[1:46:59] 2030 it goes up to 296 685 and then it

[1:47:03] looks like like you said that's when

[1:47:06] bonding occurs.

[1:47:07] >> Correct. looks like you'll peak out

[1:47:09] somewhere around 20 35 and then it stays

[1:47:13] fairly similar for quite a while till it

[1:47:15] starts to fall off

[1:47:17] >> until the 2050s.

[1:47:18] >> Do we know what that does to an average

[1:47:20] tax bill?

[1:47:22] >> Yeah, I mean you can

[1:47:24] >> kind of sort of but um

[1:47:26] >> it's hard to know going up 50 40 year 30

[1:47:29] years because the values all change.

[1:47:31] >> How about going out two years?

[1:47:33] >> Look at the front of the war. I didn't

[1:47:36] bring mine in, but the front of the

[1:47:38] warrant page that tells you how like

[1:47:40] this particular year, how much is

[1:47:43] >> $100,000 was 17 cents on the tax. So

[1:47:48] you'd have to multiply that times a,000

[1:47:50] whatever your valuation valuation 17

[1:47:52] cents per thousand. So if you have

[1:47:54] >> for 100,000 is it

[1:47:56] >> 400. So if this if if you want to say

[1:47:58] let's just take 400,000 because they'll

[1:48:00] hit that in 2031. So if you take 400 I

[1:48:04] mean $400,000

[1:48:15] $68 per thousand. No.

[1:48:20] >> Better not be.

[1:48:22] >> No. No. No. No. No. I did the math. I'm

[1:48:24] just doing the math.

[1:48:24] >> That's a No. [laughter]

[1:48:26] >> No. No. No. No. No. It's um I think it's

[1:48:29] $68 on a on a house for but I got to do

[1:48:33] the valuation. So every

[1:48:36] >> $100,000 let's take a zero out of there.

[1:48:40] 100 if it's in fact

[1:48:46] 17,000*.17.

[1:48:52] So $17 for every 100,000.

[1:48:56] So, if your house is $400,000,

[1:49:01] it'd be $68

[1:49:04] on your bill.

[1:49:05] If you did it this year,

[1:49:07] >> right?

[1:49:08] >> At the peak, you mean

[1:49:10] >> I did 400,000. Yeah. You could add

[1:49:12] another 50 would be half of that. Eight

[1:49:13] 8 cents more. So, yeah.

[1:49:16] >> So,

[1:49:17] >> that has to be project. They should be

[1:49:19] talking about that as far as that for

[1:49:21] education.

[1:49:22] >> I mean, that's how you that's how you

[1:49:24] calculate it. You look at what the

[1:49:27] >> what everything you add to the budget. I

[1:49:28] do it when I when I do the sheet for you

[1:49:30] see 50,000 100,000 and then you just

[1:49:33] take that

[1:49:35] >> amount for every 100,000 you add to the

[1:49:37] tax rate it's x amount of cents.

[1:49:39] >> So then you multiply that times,000 that

[1:49:41] tells you what it is for every 100,000

[1:49:43] 17 cents. So

[1:49:46] >> a th000 valuation

[1:49:48] >> so

[1:49:49] >> up from there

[1:49:52] >> but that's factored into the total

[1:49:54] budget that we correct that we put

[1:49:57] >> right

[1:49:58] >> that we put in front of the town each

[1:50:00] May. So that's an estimate and you're

[1:50:03] basing it on the figures that kick in.

[1:50:06] >> You're basing it on the tax rate and the

[1:50:09] in an average house this year. The

[1:50:12] biggest amount kicks in in 2031. So

[1:50:15] potentially it could be

[1:50:17] >> actually 2035,

[1:50:19] >> right?

[1:50:20] >> 2035 is your big number.

[1:50:23] >> 448547.

[1:50:24] >> The year 2035.

[1:50:26] >> Yes, correct.

[1:50:28] >> I won't be around to worry about it.

[1:50:32] >> Well, there's that. [laughter]

[1:50:34] >> Oh god.

[1:50:34] >> I'll be dead. But um

[1:50:37] >> your estate will still be taxed.

[1:50:39] >> Yeah, I'll still be paying Does that

[1:50:43] I just wanted to make sure we got that

[1:50:45] out there for the vote and the vote is

[1:50:47] on the borrow not on the amount

[1:50:49] >> it is.

[1:50:51] >> Right. But either way,

[1:50:54] >> if this is for a new building, if they

[1:50:57] come back for just renovations on the

[1:51:00] existing old building, we would have a

[1:51:03] similar proposal because they're

[1:51:06] actually getting

[1:51:08] money

[1:51:08] >> about 50%.

[1:51:10] >> Right. That brings this back down into

[1:51:12] the same ballpark as renovating the

[1:51:16] building. So, you end up paying either

[1:51:18] way.

[1:51:20] >> We ran into this when we did the high

[1:51:22] school.

[1:51:23] >> The high school was needed needing to be

[1:51:25] replaced. We not replaced, but there was

[1:51:28] damage in that. It was going to cost the

[1:51:29] town out of pocket $5 million.

[1:51:34] >> But the state came and again, the state

[1:51:36] is not going to reimburse that. So

[1:51:38] you're uh and I'm not sure if this if

[1:51:40] they reimburse some of it or all of it.

[1:51:42] That would be a question. It says right

[1:51:44] there.

[1:51:45] >> But if if you don't build the building,

[1:51:47] if you just renovate,

[1:51:50] >> you don't get the reimburse.

[1:51:51] >> That's correct. So if the renovations

[1:51:53] >> Well, you can get some renovations

[1:51:55] through MSBA, but it's not the same.

[1:51:57] They do certain projects, windows,

[1:51:59] doors, roofs. So, if this if this

[1:52:01] doesn't pass, then they'd go to option

[1:52:04] B, which would be to uh take what they

[1:52:07] have existing and and try to correct

[1:52:09] some of the problems. And that's going

[1:52:10] to be in the hundreds of millions of

[1:52:13] dollars also.

[1:52:14] >> Yeah.

[1:52:15] >> You're going to end up paying the same

[1:52:18] and getting less. And this is exactly

[1:52:20] why when uh the renovations to Pioneer

[1:52:23] came about and at that time, the state

[1:52:26] kicked in a heck of a lot more than they

[1:52:28] are now. They they did 70 70 something

[1:52:31] percent of it. Uh if they didn't do that

[1:52:35] and we just renovated, it would cost the

[1:52:37] taxpayers exactly the same amount of

[1:52:38] money or more.

[1:52:41] Does anybody know

[1:52:44] on this new build is the demolition of

[1:52:48] the old building included in that price

[1:52:50] tag?

[1:52:50] >> Correct.

[1:52:51] >> Once ultimately yes. Yeah, they went

[1:52:55] Yeah, I went through he

[1:52:56] >> I thought it was. I just wanted to make

[1:52:58] sure

[1:52:58] >> what they don't cover some of the things

[1:53:00] they they don't cover. They don't cover

[1:53:02] part of the things like uh

[1:53:04] >> how about we um he did a whole thing

[1:53:07] >> presentation.

[1:53:08] >> How about we find the YouTube video and

[1:53:12] I work with Becky on getting that

[1:53:14] explained the whole thing.

[1:53:16] >> It does.

[1:53:16] >> And we're trying to Right.

[1:53:18] >> It does.

[1:53:19] >> So all people for tonight need to do is

[1:53:22] to take a basic if you have a $400,000

[1:53:25] house

[1:53:26] >> Yep. somewhere in 3035. We're assuming

[1:53:29] it will be using today's figures, we're

[1:53:31] assuming it will be approximately $68 a

[1:53:35] year on your tax bill.

[1:53:38] >> Yeah.

[1:53:39] >> But that's just taking a $400,000 house.

[1:53:42] >> But if it might help people to

[1:53:44] understand what was the explanation

[1:53:47] behind it so that you know because

[1:53:49] either way we end up paying we've always

[1:53:52] had capital costs that we pay into. This

[1:53:55] is not a a new thing to be paying money

[1:53:58] into Franklin County Tech. So, would it

[1:54:01] be help? I'm just saying. Would it be

[1:54:02] helpful if we got that YouTube and stuck

[1:54:04] that up on the website? It just

[1:54:06] basically explains everything.

[1:54:08] >> Didn't the thing have tears

[1:54:10] >> when the one he presented to us

[1:54:12] different

[1:54:12] >> originally. Then they had to do a vote.

[1:54:14] There's a lot on their website.

[1:54:16] >> They did. Okay,

[1:54:17] >> if you go to their website, there's a

[1:54:18] tab that talks about this project and it

[1:54:22] >> all of this stuff is on there, including

[1:54:25] >> different breakdowns in the project.

[1:54:27] There's a lot on their website, too. But

[1:54:29] we could certainly look for that. I'm

[1:54:30] not Would it have to be from our select

[1:54:32] board meeting? You could go to our

[1:54:33] select board meeting if we found the

[1:54:35] date. You can go to the BNC website and

[1:54:37] find

[1:54:39] >> uh I don't know if it was a joint, but

[1:54:40] it was with the finance committee for

[1:54:41] sure.

[1:54:42] >> I was back. Yeah,

[1:54:43] >> I think it was a joint. It was

[1:54:44] >> if we did that date, you can actually

[1:54:46] pull up that recording. It

[1:54:47] >> It's just helpful because he explained

[1:54:49] the Northfield figures in particular.

[1:54:51] >> I remember when that was.

[1:54:53] >> We It's in the minutes.

[1:54:54] >> It was before Shane.

[1:54:56] >> Pre-Shane.

[1:54:58] >> BS.

[1:54:58] >> Yes. Before Shane.

[1:54:59] >> I like BS.

[1:55:01] >> Oh, that's a good one. I use it all the

[1:55:03] time. [laughter]

[1:55:04] >> Oh, no. Okay, let's do let's try and

[1:55:08] we've Okay. Uh, Finicky Farm LLC

[1:55:12] nuisance dog court findings and order.

[1:55:16] So, every

[1:55:19] one has the court findings that we got a

[1:55:22] couple of weeks ago and we are waiting

[1:55:24] for the appeal period to be done before

[1:55:27] discussing it publicly.

[1:55:32] Did everyone have a chance to review?

[1:55:37] And then I I did do a quick down and

[1:55:39] dirty summary so that you could kind of

[1:55:43] >> I just pulled the point straight off the

[1:55:46] um magistrate's findings.

[1:55:49] >> I thought it would be helpful. Do you

[1:55:51] want to review the findings out loud or

[1:55:53] did you have questions about them?

[1:55:57] >> People are asking what's happening.

[1:56:01] Um, you know,

[1:56:03] >> basically I said if you watch the old wy

[1:56:05] coyote roadrunner cartoons, you you know

[1:56:08] what's going on

[1:56:10] with this. It's it's kind of laughable

[1:56:14] this all this to try to catch that dog.

[1:56:16] But yeah, I think they want to know

[1:56:17] what's going on. I really do.

[1:56:20] >> Okay, let's walk through it then.

[1:56:21] >> Yeah.

[1:56:22] >> Um, and I have been I reached out to the

[1:56:26] neighbors as well. So everyone was

[1:56:28] waiting

[1:56:29] patiently,

[1:56:31] expectantly for these findings. So um

[1:56:35] what we got was a five-page document.

[1:56:37] The first four pages are basically

[1:56:40] recounting everything that people can go

[1:56:42] back and watch at the dog hearing. Those

[1:56:44] are all summarized because we had to

[1:56:46] repeat all of that at the court appeal.

[1:56:49] Um and I took part in that appeal

[1:56:52] process. The court's conclusion which is

[1:56:55] one basically one page is that

[1:57:01] the petitioner who is the farm

[1:57:06] he find it he found

[1:57:10] that there were two parts of the select

[1:57:12] board's order that he didn't agree with

[1:57:15] for the farm. One had to do with

[1:57:17] ordering the

[1:57:19] um farm to actually

[1:57:23] use a tracking tranquilizer dart. The

[1:57:27] second thing was that there was no

[1:57:29] evidence to support that the animal

[1:57:31] control officer has the necessary

[1:57:33] training or experience to pass judgment

[1:57:35] in terms of the the portion of the order

[1:57:38] that we uh required training. And I

[1:57:42] talked to the animal control officer

[1:57:44] yesterday and he said that kind of makes

[1:57:46] sense to him because he doesn't have a

[1:57:48] behavioral certification or anything

[1:57:51] like that. So those two things were

[1:57:55] found for the farm.

[1:57:59] What

[1:58:00] the um what the court did say is that

[1:58:04] the town acted

[1:58:08] the board's determination that Anna is a

[1:58:10] nuisance dog was proper. Um

[1:58:15] » he said without any doubt that you're

[1:58:18] determined

[1:58:18] >> correct and equated to a finding that

[1:58:21] there existed a significant quote

[1:58:23] unquote a significant health and safety

[1:58:25] concern.

[1:58:28] Um

[1:58:35] so then the court orders as follows. The

[1:58:38] owner, meaning the farm, shall forth

[1:58:40] with make a sincere and diligent effort

[1:58:42] to capture Anna and shall on the first

[1:58:45] of each month provide the select board

[1:58:46] with a written report of any and all

[1:58:49] efforts it is made to capture Anna,

[1:58:52] including specifying dates of efforts,

[1:58:55] specific efforts made, and time

[1:58:57] committed for each effort to capture.

[1:59:01] And if the Anna is captured by owner or

[1:59:05] any other party, it he shall contact the

[1:59:10] select board and the Northfield Police

[1:59:11] Department immediately.

[1:59:14] And and I'm putting emphasis on the and

[1:59:16] because this is a multi-art. Once

[1:59:18] captured, Anna shall be turned over by

[1:59:21] the owner or any other party in

[1:59:24] possession of her to the town of

[1:59:26] Northfield to be held spayed and

[1:59:27] vaccinated. The cost to spay and

[1:59:30] vaccinate Anna shall be assessed to the

[1:59:32] owner and simultaneously

[1:59:36] the town of Northfield may make

[1:59:39] reasonable efforts to capture Anna and

[1:59:42] that's what

[1:59:44] we and other people were looking for was

[1:59:47] what is the town's right to do. So

[1:59:51] that's been upheld. Upon capture of

[1:59:53] Anna, the town of Northfield

[1:59:57] shall contact the court to conduct a

[2:00:00] prompt hearing. So this means we would

[2:00:02] have to go once Anna is captured, we

[2:00:04] would have to go back to the court with

[2:00:06] the owner, meaning the farm,

[2:00:09] and the court will set any and all

[2:00:13] necessary future conditions to

[2:00:15] adequately quote unquote ameliate the

[2:00:17] nuisance behavior end quote.

[2:00:21] The town of Northfield, this includes

[2:00:24] the select board/an animal control

[2:00:26] officer, may take

[2:00:30] any and all action to capture Anna with

[2:00:33] owner responsible for all costs incurred

[2:00:35] by the town and may take any and all

[2:00:38] other legal action, criminal or civil,

[2:00:42] that may be applicable to these facts

[2:00:44] and circumstances. this magistrate shall

[2:00:47] retain personal jurisdiction over said

[2:00:49] matter.

[2:00:51] >> So it's clear what the town can do. It's

[2:00:54] also clear what the um firm

[2:00:58] should be doing should have had done

[2:01:00] already.

[2:01:02] And um we can't order them to actually

[2:01:06] tranquilize

[2:01:08] her.

[2:01:09] Um and we can't order them if they do we

[2:01:12] can't order them to get the dog

[2:01:14] training. But everything else allows the

[2:01:17] town to

[2:01:20] [snorts]

[2:01:21] make our own efforts and charge for said

[2:01:24] efforts and then we have to circle back

[2:01:26] to the court.

[2:01:35] » Okay.

[2:01:36] >> Yeah.

[2:01:36] >> Anything?

[2:01:41] » Um I will say that I have spoken to each

[2:01:43] and every neighbor. I've kept them

[2:01:45] updated at different points. Um, and

[2:01:49] people who submitted the complaint, for

[2:01:50] example,

[2:01:53] and I've um they know about this meeting

[2:01:57] and they know about the review of the

[2:01:59] they know about the findings

[2:02:04] » as does the animal control officer.

[2:02:07] >> [snorts]

[2:02:09] >> So, I thought it'd be helpful if we

[2:02:10] reviewed it so everybody knows that the

[2:02:13] findings are back and that the town may

[2:02:15] take any and all action to capture Anna.

[2:02:19] I'm assuming based on social media posts

[2:02:21] that [snorts] the farm continues to make

[2:02:23] their own efforts. Um and as of October

[2:02:27] 1st

[2:02:29] um they will have to submit since this

[2:02:32] was dated September

[2:02:36] [snorts]

[2:02:37] dated September 1st

[2:02:39] very last page.

[2:02:41] >> Yeah. But we didn't get it on September

[2:02:42] 1st. So, um I'm assuming the farm will

[2:02:46] need to will need to supply

[2:02:49] their report uh on October 1st which is

[2:02:53] coming up tomorrow

[2:02:55] >> and it should have details in it per the

[2:02:58] order.

[2:03:02] » Best we can do right now.

[2:03:04] >> Any questions for the lawyer

[2:03:09] or

[2:03:13] I'm looking at their plan trap here. So

[2:03:16] hopefully that will work.

[2:03:18] >> They're going to enclose it and I we'll

[2:03:20] see. They're supposed to have it some

[2:03:22] result by the 1st of October. So we'll

[2:03:24] see what how that works.

[2:03:26] >> When's October 1st? Tomorrow.

[2:03:27] >> Tomorrow.

[2:03:28] >> Day after day.

[2:03:30] >> Today the 29th.

[2:03:32] >> Oh, I guess tomorrow Friday.

[2:03:34] >> Tomorrow's the 30th day after.

[2:03:37] >> I have no comment on that document.

[2:03:41] Okay.

[2:03:43] Um, anything else on that?

[2:03:46] >> No. Nope.

[2:03:47] >> It's been a fun night of topics, you

[2:03:51] guys. Okay. Um, highway surplus

[2:03:54] equipment. We're going to declare.

[2:03:58] Should have done that when Tom was here.

[2:04:00] Darn it. Just for the fun. We're um So,

[2:04:04] Tom gave us a list. includes a chip box,

[2:04:08] tire rims, a snow pusher,

[2:04:11] a 2012 John Deere

[2:04:13] >> mower.

[2:04:14] >> Oh, look at that. What was it town hall?

[2:04:17] >> Uh, don't think it's back out of

[2:04:19] >> a 2012. [laughter]

[2:04:22] » Probably huge. Uh, a sander body and a

[2:04:26] what is a

[2:04:29] >> PA? It's a PA, but what is something low

[2:04:33] P? I don't know.

[2:04:35] Okay. Low hot paver.

[2:04:40] » Okay. I'll entertain a motion to approve

[2:04:43] said um surplus equipment list.

[2:04:46] >> So move.

[2:04:46] >> Second.

[2:04:47] >> All those in favor?

[2:04:48] >> I.

[2:04:49] So um just for those who don't know

[2:04:52] that Tom and other departments because

[2:04:54] we have another surplus um when they

[2:04:56] have equipment that's old um if we

[2:04:59] declared a surplus then they can sell

[2:05:02] it, auction it off, give it away. So,

[2:05:05] okay. So, we're going to do the same

[2:05:06] thing. We have a surplus police

[2:05:08] department vehicle. Uh, it is a 2009 GMC

[2:05:14] Acadia. No longer needed by the police

[2:05:16] department. We got it for free and it

[2:05:19] has little to no value. Basically scrap

[2:05:21] for the police chief. I'll entertain a

[2:05:23] motion to declare said [snorts] vehicle

[2:05:25] as surplus.

[2:05:26] >> So, move.

[2:05:27] >> Second.

[2:05:28] >> All those in favor?

[2:05:29] >> I. Great. Okay.

[2:05:32] All right. Uh,

[2:05:36] committee board appointments, election

[2:05:38] officers, terms ending August 15, 2027.

[2:05:44] Normally, we do these as one big

[2:05:48] I'm going to entertain a motion to

[2:05:51] approve

[2:05:54] Lynn Hansel. I'm gonna split this. Lynn

[2:05:57] Hansel and Pamela Ve as election

[2:05:59] officers. terms ending August 15, 2027.

[2:06:03] >> So moved.

[2:06:04] >> Second.

[2:06:06] >> All those in favor?

[2:06:07] >> I I Okay, great. And then I'm going to

[2:06:10] entertain a motion to appoint Karen

[2:06:14] Budro as an election officer term ending

[2:06:17] August 15, 2027.

[2:06:20] >> So moved.

[2:06:21] >> Second.

[2:06:22] >> All those in favor?

[2:06:25] I

[2:06:26] >> I need to abstain or

[2:06:30] >> That's what I'm thinking.

[2:06:31] >> Abstain. Yeah.

[2:06:32] >> Yeah. [clears throat] Okay.

[2:06:33] >> So, there is a question of an [snorts]

[2:06:36] elected official serving as a um

[2:06:39] election officer.

[2:06:41] >> You may want to check with the state on

[2:06:43] that.

[2:06:44] >> But she's done all that.

[2:06:45] >> She's done it. She's got it. She's got

[2:06:46] >> She's done all the checking. Okay.

[2:06:49] >> Spoken to them about who can serve and

[2:06:51] when they can serve.

[2:06:52] >> Okay.

[2:06:52] Good.

[2:06:53] >> All right. And then I'll entertain a

[2:06:56] motion to appoint Lindseay McCarthy as

[2:06:58] an election officer term ending August

[2:07:01] 15, 2027.

[2:07:04] >> Second

[2:07:07] [laughter]

[2:07:08] took me. He was quicker than I was.

[2:07:11] >> All those in favor?

[2:07:13] >> I I

[2:07:14] >> abstein.

[2:07:15] >> Dave [snorts] McCarthy absteines.

[2:07:17] >> We got a couple announcements quickly.

[2:07:20] >> Yes. Announcements. weekly office hours

[2:07:21] for emergency medical services building

[2:07:24] project with owner's project manager

[2:07:26] every Wednesday September

[2:07:29] starting September 9th uh is from 3 to 6

[2:07:34] October 6th are the um two elections one

[2:07:38] for the

[2:07:42] great river school district also known

[2:07:45] as the sixth town that's one election

[2:07:48] and then the second election is for what

[2:07:50] we had just talked about with the

[2:07:51] Franklin County Technical School um

[2:07:56] debt vote. So that's October 6th. And

[2:08:00] then Northfield aggregation,

[2:08:03] just so folks know, the Colonial Power

[2:08:05] Eversource mailings were sent out

[2:08:07] [snorts] starting September 15th.

[2:08:10] Consumer notification letters and opt

[2:08:13] out cards are are sent to anyone in

[2:08:15] Northfield who is on basic service but

[2:08:18] hasn't already been mailed to. So it

[2:08:20] will look like

[2:08:22] this packet

[2:08:24] basically.

[2:08:26] I don't know if you can really you can't

[2:08:28] really see that.

[2:08:29] >> Mhm. Um,

[2:08:33] the mailing informs residents about the

[2:08:36] town's program and allows them a 30-day

[2:08:39] opt out period before being

[2:08:41] automatically enrolled. And Becky, do

[2:08:44] you have this on the website as well?

[2:08:48] >> I can't.

[2:08:49] >> I thought we did. I thought we put

[2:08:51] something on

[2:08:51] >> I thought you put something on the

[2:08:53] website. All right, we'll double check.

[2:08:54] >> I think we put something about the

[2:08:55] aggregation

[2:08:56] >> electrical option.

[2:08:58] Yeah, there is something. Okay.

[2:09:01] Uh recognition for service.

[2:09:03] >> I have two more than

[2:09:05] >> Okay.

[2:09:06] Um just uh events going on this

[2:09:09] week. The uh senior center is having a

[2:09:12] hot rod cruise night.

[2:09:14] >> Yeah.

[2:09:15] >> Thursday at the golf course. Um that's

[2:09:18] from 4 to 7.

[2:09:20] >> Okay.

[2:09:21] And then reminder, the Great River

[2:09:24] Challenge

[2:09:25] >> Oh yeah. Thank you.

[2:09:26] >> is Saturday. I think that's what

[2:09:28] >> October 3rd.

[2:09:31] >> Noon to 3, I believe.

[2:09:33] >> I think it starts earlier than that.

[2:09:34] >> Starts early in the morning.

[2:09:36] >> Yeah. Yeah. Starts early. Yeah. But it's

[2:09:37] this week. It's on the website. So Okay.

[2:09:41] >> Yeah. Um Okay. And then

[2:09:45] in terms of other announcements, if

[2:09:47] people want to send those into us, we

[2:09:49] talked about doing that like for the

[2:09:50] monster dash and everything. Um, if it

[2:09:53] makes sense, we can always move those to

[2:09:55] the beginning of the meeting. Kind of

[2:09:56] get them out of the way. So, we're doing

[2:09:58] more

[2:09:59] happy communication at the beginning.

[2:10:01] Um, recognition for service.

[2:10:04] >> Yeah.

[2:10:06] you were right. I just got a quick

[2:10:09] text. It said 9 in the morning.

[2:10:11] >> Yeah.

[2:10:12] >> You got to get out.

[2:10:12] >> Oh, that was quick.

[2:10:13] >> There's a lot to You got three sports

[2:10:16] you got to do. Um, I would check

[2:10:18] Facebook and I would check the

[2:10:19] recreation uh commission's web page and

[2:10:21] also the Great River Challenge has its

[2:10:24] own web page and um

[2:10:26] >> they're connected.

[2:10:28] >> Okay. Uh, recognition for service. I

[2:10:30] would just say thanks to everybody who

[2:10:32] helped out with um, Skip's retirement

[2:10:34] celebration. There were quite a few

[2:10:36] volunteers who came out, set up and

[2:10:39] helped the fire department. The fire

[2:10:40] department did a great job like getting

[2:10:42] the food. Um, but police like, uh, John

[2:10:47] Hall, Amanda Hall,

[2:10:50] Joanne Gardner, Tammy Pelliter, um,

[2:10:53] Stacy Bond, there was a bunch of people

[2:10:55] actually helped set everything up for

[2:10:57] them.

[2:10:57] >> There's a lot of We were there at 9:00

[2:10:58] in the morning cutting and dicing and

[2:11:01] >> everything up and we went the day before

[2:11:03] and bought all the materials.

[2:11:04] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there's Yeah, we

[2:11:06] did a did a lot of work and a lot of uh,

[2:11:08] community members showed up to help cut

[2:11:10] >> and prep all the food as well. So,

[2:11:12] >> yeah. So, I just want to give a shout

[2:11:13] out to that whole group effort. I

[2:11:15] thought it was a lovely um Skip was

[2:11:17] really really touched. Um and happy

[2:11:20] anniversary.

[2:11:21] >> Skip didn't have anything to do with it.

[2:11:23] Make sure he wasn't involved at all. He

[2:11:25] was showing up and having a good time.

[2:11:26] [snorts]

[2:11:26] >> Although he did get to do a good speech.

[2:11:29] That was great. Um and thanks also to um

[2:11:32] Senator CR for coming to Northfield. She

[2:11:35] really enjoyed it and um I made sure she

[2:11:37] met um fire as many people as possible

[2:11:41] in a short period of time.

[2:11:43] >> Okay. Motion to adjurnn.

[2:11:45] >> So moved.

[2:11:47] [laughter]

[2:11:48] >> You beat me again.

[2:11:50] >> Most popular motion of the night.

[2:11:51] >> Oh, for you.

[2:11:52] >> Thank you.

[2:11:53] >> We haven't voted though.

[2:11:54] >> All those in favor? I

[2:11:55] >> I thank you everybody. I

[2:11:57] >> Thank you. I think

[2:11:58] >> she sent you a email. Thank you, Tyler.

[2:12:01] Oh, I should have

Northfield Select Board - September 29, 2026

Transcript