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as we begin will you please join us in
the pledge I pledge aliance to the flag
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of the United States of America to
the stands
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na
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indivisible thank
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you I'm sure that we're all aware of
what's happening in our world right now
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and I think as we start our meeting I
would like to ask that we just take a
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couple minutes of silence just to
reflect on what's Happening Pray for
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Peace if that's part of who you are um
and contemplate peace if it's not um
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we're in a pretty shaky situation for a
lot of people and I think it's very
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appropriate for us to start our meeting
and our deliberations with just a moment
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to reflect on on what's going on and to
pray and consider people as they're
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going through some very very difficult
times so please join me in a moment of
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SS
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thank you our culture doesn't do well
with with f times as we're all going
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wind thank you though for joining me in
that um I would entertain a motion and
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second for um was everybody here for
both of these meetings well we can't
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have the minutes for the 12th because
we're having the minute 12th it says
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we'll do the minutes next meeting
because because Jennifer's not
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here and we have
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changes okay so we will defer the
adoption of minutes um Steve Nolton has
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been um stuck at work um I got a call
from him about uh 20 minutes ago he will
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not be able to join us today so we will
continue our land use technical
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committee discussions about affordable
housing um on October
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26th um if he's available he to check
his um his schedule he will be sending
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to us board um an email outlining um the
the different issues that the lutc has
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been discussing so that we'll have a
chance to review them this meeting
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okay um we'll Now open up for public
comment on any of our action items
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um um there are several places where we
have public comment so if you do have a
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public comment about something else what
we normally try to do or what we always
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do is have public comment on any of our
action items so we can finish them and
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then we can move on to um any other
public comment on any issue so our
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action items for tonight are for the
board to accept our audited voucher
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summary uh the second is for us to um
accept the vacancy survey um that would
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um relative relating to the emergency
tenant protection
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act the third is way back
here the third is to
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um approve a just compensation for
property owners for the easeman um
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related to our sidewalk project the Safe
Streets to school project where we will
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be um having to do some some work with
with property owners to um take some of
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their properties take some of their some
of the fences off replace things so
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we're trying to work on a process that
limits the um the cost and exposure for
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our
residents um the next resolution is for
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us to authorize um pilot agreement for
Rockland Gardens um when we get to that
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um we'll we'll talk a little bit more
about that um I understand that the town
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of Orangetown has tabled their approval
um and so for further discussions they
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wanted to ask some questions of their
assessor um the next one is for us to
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approve um the installation of a
commemorative plaque um naming the
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Gazebo Memorial Park after Bert and
Chris Hughes
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the next is for us to approve um a
stargazing in Memorial Park on the
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Memorial Park viewing Pier um for for
the week of 20 October 22nd to 27th at
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least once hopefully the skies are clear
for for Joe Carlin to lead and the last
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is for us to um award um another of our
sidewalk repair projects to Belleville
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Landscaping um for Main
Street any comments on any of those
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items yes if you could please stand and
give us your name and your where you
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come from for the record thank you I Joe
Carlin
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um7 Second
Avenue just a quick note regarding the
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uh
stargazing obviously it's Contin on the
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weather and and since we haven't had too
much lately a lot of rain cloudiness so
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I just wanted to know if um we could add
another possible week after the
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Halloween parade or after Halloween
sometime early November and hopefully we
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can make it happen
sometime um I would say
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November November 2nd to the
6 or November November 9th to
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the
15th Joe I honestly don't see any issue
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with us reapproved this if it doesn't
work during that week um so why don't we
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wait just so that we can get it the way
it is we wait until the week is over and
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then we'll if if it doesn't work just
let let Andy know and we'll we'll redo
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it okay thank
you any other
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comments okay hearing none let's move
through our action
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items um I need a motion in a second for
us to accept our audited voucher
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sumary motion from Marie second from
Donna um oh by the way Jen won't won't
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be joining us so we'll be trying to make
sure that we're a little bit
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demonstrative about who's making motions
in seconds so that it ends up on the on
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our tape for for the minutes to be to be
transcribed so forgive me if I'm
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overbearing on that issue so motion from
Marie second from Donna any
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discussion all in favor I opposed motion
carried let's get this next one on the
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table and then Dennis if you want to
walk us through um what your what your
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expectations or what we need to think
about um this is for uh I need a motion
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in a second to uh accept the um the
vacancy study conducted by The Village
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administrator relating to the emergency
tenant protection act Declaration of
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housing emergency so Mo second motion
from Donna second from Pascal um let's
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give Dennis an opportunity to give us
his thoughts and then we can ask
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questions well um from a legal
perspective
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uming confidentialities that
we shared over the past few months um I
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counsel The Village administrator Andy
Stewart uh and to the mayor and that may
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be it and maybe some of you in executive
session because there's been a threat of
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litigation um that in my legal opinion
we have conducted this survey correctly
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with compliance with the applicable law
there's not a ton of law out there but
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from what I've uh researched and
reviewed carefully and also spoken to uh
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some colleagues in the municipal
attorney sphere
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um I'm comfortable that we The Village
through Andy um have performed this
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survey study for vacancy rates in
compliance with the law as it stands
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today that's all I can really share
about that thank you and um of course
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Andy can talk about the mechanics of
conducting the survey which was his well
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I I think we've actually done that a
couple times in public session I think
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the one thing thing that we did do was
um we did receive additional information
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and the reason for tabling this motion
at the last meeting was for us to
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consider it to give fair look at it and
then and then to decide whether we
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should move forward we've done that
we've added a section into the
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resolution regarding that which anybody
can look at if they want to is there any
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other clarifications or questions of the
yes than please I'm assuming all the
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trustees have read the draft resolution
the proposed resolution um if not maybe
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suggest that we take a minute or two to
review it now I just like sure this is
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an important one so yeah so if you
haven't reviewed it if you could just
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read it over real quickly if you have
you have any questions about legal
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question or mechanical for Andy
regarding the conducting of the survey
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Andy's
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here
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and the the new additional information
that that Don was apping to is the
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paragraph where is that paragraph
see I think it's the bottom of page two
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in your agenda you print out bottom of
page
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two page top page
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three so starts at the bot
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over top of Page Three second paragraph
on page three as
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well refen additional
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information are we all good we read
through yeah any further questions I
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just wanted to make a note of the fact
that we did get some as the resolution
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indicates we got some responses that
came in or at least one response that
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came in after time and was not completed
the way that the survey requested um and
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though that was not included in the
survey but even if it were it would not
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change the result where the result
clearly showed a vacancy rate of under
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to 5% which is what's contemplated to
declare a housing emergency in the
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btpa um and so I I want to say that
to the Village administrator and
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everybody that worked on this this was a
very careful painstaking and extended um
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approach that they took and very
disciplined and I appreciate the work
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they did to make sure that it was done
precisely and um that we got good
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information reliable information that we
can act upon so thank you Andy and
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that here here anything else
hearing nothing all in favor I opposed
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motion carried
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um The Next Step you made thinking Don
is no I was actually considering whether
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we should um I I want to let the public
know that we did receive uh an
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additional email from from an attorney
of a coalition of landlords um which
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suggested that we were not willing to
consider a proposal that they had sent
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to us and I want to make sure for the
record that it's stated that we are
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willing and will continue to work
through that process um as we move
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forward so that um just I just want to
make sure that the public is aware that
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we have received that um and that we
will um consider it just like we've
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considered anything that's come before
us about this issue just want trustees
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the next step is to schedule an actual
public hearing on whether or not to
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declare a housing emergency in the
village of n act that's by public
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hearing I'll prepare that a with vany
get that published and uh so we have not
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declared tonight we have not declared a
housing emergency this not this is not a
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declaration of a housing emergency it is
simply the accepting of the survey um
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that demonstrates a housing emergency
based on us do we need a resolution to
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set the um public yeah let's go through
these we'll do that after remind me if I
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forget
um so we
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are3 we're 5.3 right yes y to approve um
the just compensation um this is for the
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easements for the um safe roots to
school I need a motion second so may
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second um any questions I think we've
gone over this fairly several times in
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the past um for those in the public this
is about um working with residents along
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Dew and some of the side streets on on
Lower Dew we're going to be widening
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those sidewalks to make it safer for
kids to get up and down to school so and
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that will require us to do some work
with uh with residents about making
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taking over some of their land talking
with them about hey you're on Village
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land and just that whole process of
working through that we've already begun
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that we've talked with residents we've
had a couple meetings with them that
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process will continue this just gives us
the ability to um to use Grant funds to
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to do to make that
happen any
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questions hearing none all in favor I
oppos motion
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Carri no we're not you had a question no
we're not we're not we we had it place
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for open comments we're moving through
our resolutions now there'll be a place
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for public comment after we're done with
our
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resolutions
our next resolution is to um authorize
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the mayor to sign a pilot agreement with
Rockland
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Gardens um housing Partners limited
partnership um the town of Orangetown
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Union Free School District of nyak um
regarding 84 North Franklin Street which
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is basically rocking Gardens let's get
it on the table and then if we have any
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questions we can get clarification
second motion from Donna from
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Pascal um Andy you want to add anything
to what I said earlier about this and I
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hope I got that
right I think that it's important people
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to understand that the assessor
evaluated this um the agreement is to
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hold their current um assessment level
for another year or so and then increase
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it given the amount that's be invested
in that property and then hold that for
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a certain number of years
um it's not a tax impact right so
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there's no impact on our taxes um only
on the assessment of the building so our
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taxes will remain the same we just won't
have the assessment of the building will
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not go up until the Pilot is is finished
and it will phase in if I understand it
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correctly when I read it I believe it
goes
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6.8 so um any questions I I understand
the town of Orange
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asked for um some clarification from the
assessor before they wanted to vote on
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it um we can vote on it before they do
don't yeah I would recommend that we do
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to show um to show the the the owner
that we this is a positive thing for for
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our subsidized housing to get it
completely um refurbished and and and
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worked on and it will be a positive
thing for our residents and it will not
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be increased act end up in an increase
in their rent so this is quite an
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accomplishment and we should really I
think be thanking on rock and Gardens
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for for the idea and the process to get
us here so I would suggest that we vote
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on it tonight um and then let the town
of Orangetown make their determination
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can I just ask I'm assuming that the
school district and the town because
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it's a
tax I believe the school passed pass
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school board has a town of Orangetown
just had a couple questions they wanted
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to
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ask hearing no other questions all in
favor I oppos motion
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Carri
um I need a motion in a second to
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approve the um naming of the Gazebo
after B second Mar read the motion
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second from Donna um any further
discussion on this
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um It's just sad that we need to do it
but appropriate that we
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do um all in favor opposed motion
carried and could we also just add um
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sending a note of thanks to Chris for
all everything she's done for the
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village and and notifying her of this
it' be a nice touch to have it come from
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us as the
trustees the next is a resolution to
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approve the stargazing in which Jo
permission we'll do it just for the time
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that's in the resolution and if for some
reason we have clouds we'll we'll just
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add dates on so that's all right
everyone I need a motion a second I got
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a motion from Donna a second from Joe
any um further discussion hearing none
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all in favor opposed motion
carried for stargazing yeah I feel going
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this is I I shouldn't digress but when
when my grandson gets gets out on the
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porch in the morning he wants to lay
down on the porch and look up at the sky
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and point at the clouds so I know
exactly what you're gonna
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do during the day I just want to note
for the record that for my 13th birthday
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one of the stars were name was named
after me just for my 13th birthday one
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of those Stars was named after me so if
you can find it figure out your picture
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of somewhere up there our next
resolution is for us to approve a
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um an award for Main Street sidewalk
repair to Belleville
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Landscaping um let's get a motion in
second and then if Andy wants to explain
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to us exactly what's happening motion
motion from vascal second second from
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Marie
Andy I'm sure everybody has noticed that
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the sidewalk between the hesai Easter um
square square and the River State Park
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is really deteriorated in a number of
locations and um I would love to be able
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to fix that um it won't cost a lot of
money we have sufficient funds in our
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Paving and Road
fund um and we have the three quotes in
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compliance with our procurement policy
which is any Public Works project under
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$35,000 you get three written
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quotes and I think we got some pretty
competitive votes there i' like to move
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forward the project as soon
as any
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questions hearing none all in favor I
oos motion carried we will now open up
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for um public comment on any item um we
will limit our discussions to the best
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we can to three minutes I'll remind you
at 2 minutes and 30 by putting my hand
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up if we need to go over um we'll see
what the sense is and you may have to
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come back up again if anybody that wants
to make public comment that hasn't
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signed in um Andy do you want me to get
that for you um when you come up to make
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your public comment um since we are
reporting and we are live if you would
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give us your name and your um address
and um then please have that whatever
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the issue is that you want to bring
before
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us the first person is
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all right hello how you doing my name is
Amir resent
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of all probably know me lot of other
people around here know me as well and
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uh we were uh talking a while back and I
had I Disappeared for a
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while I'm sorry things stuff um and uh
wanted to touch up on the basis of
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what's happening with the fines that
were happening with 197 CLE out uh the
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fire fines and also at the same time
what's is going on with the legal
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building that they've been doing and
everything else that uh
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has passed after the Kingston just be a
little louder I
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can't after the Kingston law oh so
you're talking about the emergency
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tenant protection act and what are you
talking about for the
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fire um from what I've uh been informed
that the fire department find uh the the
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management of 197 sickles for improper
uh management of uh equipment so they
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were using illegal will
uh varnish and things like that uh in
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the building and also without the uh
permit for the
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town I am not aware of those violations
so we don't normally get those
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violations sent to us those are normally
handled through the Justice Court um so
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I don't know if we can actually respond
but we can certainly find out and let
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you know
unless um we did have S will fire
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excessive false along cases excessive
false along cases it sounds like you're
[23:34]
referring to a different type of
violation they were in court a couple of
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weeks ago sadly or
disappointingly none of the defendants
[23:42]
showed up I've been I've been working
with the building department fire
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inspector to try to address that that
problem of lack of appearance by code
[23:54]
violation defendants but there were set
sets of false alarms uh not something
[23:58]
that you just described I I'm not sure
you're talking about no you're talking
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about7 C Avenue I don't alarms that we
do have uh from the fire department was
[24:10]
a lot of times with the time Hotel the
time hotel we have excessive alarms that
[24:15]
went off and there was no reason for the
alarms to go off but with uh the uh 19
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197 sickles it was about varnish and the
contractors us
[24:28]
things that were not supposed to be used
and was toxic to people
[24:34]
that that may have been on the court
calendar but if it was the defendant did
[24:39]
not show up but I don't think it was um
as as the mayor pointed out
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uh Village administrator and I will will
contact Building Department fire
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inspector and see what's happening 197
second can you leave a email address so
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that we can or or phone number that we
can correspond with you after we find
[24:59]
get to the bottom of it absolutely
because the fire department you normally
[25:04]
is not in the business of issuing
summonses that's usually done by our Co
[25:08]
enforcement fire inspector so this was
this was back in the time when Dana
[25:12]
Nichols was still the was 101 of
the and now it's changed over to J pill
[25:22]
right so as J came then you start
cracking down on the things that were
[25:29]
going wrong sure well have have Jim give
either Andy or I a call but we'll get
[25:34]
the information for you if there's
something that he needs from us he I'm
[25:38]
not aware of him I haven't been in
contact with Jim for a couple weeks
[25:43]
about any of these issues so I'm not
aware of the specifics that you're
[25:47]
talking about so if you want to have Jim
either contact myself or Andy he has our
[25:53]
cell phones well the reason I the reason
that I was asking is because since I've
[25:58]
been a resident there for the last 15
years and I've seen all everything
[26:04]
changing back and forth that's why I'm
concerned with a lot of other residents
[26:09]
that are here with me and so there
is I don't want to say that there's you
[26:18]
know sliding of the hands but uh we all
do know that there is sliding of the
[26:23]
hands going across the board so I want
to see if that is something think
[26:28]
because this is I'm a person that lives
in the neighborhood I worked in the
[26:33]
neighborhood I was I left the
neighborhood because I was pushed out
[26:37]
because I fell out of
business and I still live in the
[26:41]
neighborhood but the most important
thing is the safety for our children and
[26:46]
our community we we agree with you 100%
I um so we'll we let us let us do some
[26:52]
research to find out um well I'm not
going to agree with you or disagree with
[26:56]
you about slight of hand on anything but
let us do the research and we'll figure
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out um the issues that you're bringing
we can trade information across the
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board with uh emails and uh everything
else so that we we can stay in
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communication with each
other we we will be happy to email you
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any of the information you of course can
email us anytime or come to any meetings
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and raise them again but we're not I'm
not just not familiar with the issues
[27:22]
you're bringing up so I can't really
respond we talked about it three months
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ago three months ago before I
disappeared and it was all about the
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housing and the legal building and
everything else that was happening and
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that was only the beginning of uh well I
don't recall that discussion so and we'
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about church the church came and Wasing
as well about the uh situation about the
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rent increase across
[Music]
[27:50]
town violations are different that that
requires a different type of response
[27:54]
the response the issue that you brought
up about the rent increase has been
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something we've been meeting about
regularly since then culminating in
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today accepting the vacancy study on the
etpa been some advice about information
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that I need to figure
out but at the same time like so if they
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have violations how do they pay a a fine
and the village doesn't know about the
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fine no The Village doesn't know it's
said I don't know I wouldn't I don't
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there's lots of fins that are given out
in the village and I have no idea who
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they're giving to um so it's that I
don't know it's not that the village
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doesn't know I'm sure the Village Court
is very aware of every fine that's been
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given out the building Department's
aware of every of every code violation
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that they've made but I don't have that
information to give to give you feedback
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and this is I'm s unless I'm completely
forgetting the only thing that I
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remember you bringing to us was the rent
increases and we have been working we've
[28:54]
been working diligently on them and
building they didn't use any permits
[28:59]
they reuse one permit and and our
building inspector went up our building
[29:03]
inspector and fire inspector did go up
but I don't know what the results of
[29:07]
that
was but we will find
[29:10]
out thank you because as as a member
of to go into a building and other
[29:18]
buildings where people are doing things
illegally and I'm GNA put my life on the
[29:22]
line as I PID completely agree with and
I don't get paid anything to
[29:28]
uh you know go save someone's life I'll
save anyone's life at any moment at any
[29:32]
time you know this is from Chelsea
L and being a prominent member of the
[29:39]
community but at the same time needing
to know and understand what's going on
[29:43]
so that way our lives are not just
wasted completely agree we're doing we
[29:50]
we I think we well let us find out
what's going on and we'll get back to
[29:54]
and we can we can we can talk about it
in public at the next meeting meeting
[29:57]
but we just don't have the information
for you
[29:59]
today thank
[30:04]
you
[30:08]
next why you just bring that back down
see give it to me and I'll I'll call
[30:12]
them
up the only sign up is Mr John
[30:19]
J
[30:24]
Daniel you want to wait for the next
session
[30:28]
okay
um we are now at um Department reports
[30:35]
if there's no other public
comment right now please come up and
[30:39]
tell us give us your
[30:46]
name hi my name is mar lingon and I live
at 33rd Avenue in nyak and I'm here I
[30:51]
spoke last time we met to discuss 11th
Avenue I'm here again to talk about it
[30:57]
um again the person who bought this
property did so as an investment never
[31:01]
lived at the property um as a right you
know it's a two family Zone and he could
[31:07]
certainly upsize the property he has
right now and probably bu more than one
[31:12]
but not being satisfied with that he
wants to put multif family housing there
[31:16]
he obviously has good lawyers and
understands that if he just ask for SE
[31:19]
Amendment based on one it's back
summoning we not going to do that so he
[31:23]
carved out a niche of six about six
properties of a certain size
[31:27]
and he saying to well let's change it
and up Zone that and everyone knows
[31:31]
affordable housing is good and therefore
we should do this to these six
[31:35]
properties and that won't have a huge
impact but the truth is it would have a
[31:39]
huge impact in our neighborhood you'd
end up with smaller properties in
[31:43]
between multif family housing on gney it
is a small block um as people have
[31:49]
testified beforehand there are lots of
parking issues in the neighborhood
[31:54]
although it's a two family Zone it's
mainly one family housing and we are not
[31:59]
interested in having neighborhood change
n has a master plan if you're going to
[32:04]
change the zoning in the community you
should do it through a master plan we
[32:08]
see no reason why you should spend money
on the resources NX resources because
[32:12]
someone individual wants to change the
zoning with his property and it does not
[32:18]
benefit any of the neighborhoods and any
of our neighbors and we're all V opposed
[32:24]
I think a lot of people aren't here
tonight there's a lot going in world in
[32:27]
the world at the moment but they
certainly all showed up at the zba
[32:31]
meeting and they signed a petition and
they let you know loud and clearly that
[32:35]
they did not want up zoning in our
neighborhood that we har our property
[32:40]
values that we love our neighborhood
that we want to live in this
[32:43]
neighborhood we bought homes knowing
that it was two family residential
[32:47]
neighborhood and we're very satisfied
with that and we would like to keep it
[32:51]
that way and we ask you to vote no and
to represent the community and your
[32:56]
community does not want you to up Zone
these blocks so thank you thank you
[33:02]
thank
[33:08]
you
discuss you want to wait until we open
[33:15]
discuss um Ju Just you know that that
issue is on our agenda to discuss um we
[33:21]
have not um made any action to move any
consideration I've asked the board at
[33:28]
our last meeting to make sure they came
to this meeting ready to discuss it
[33:32]
about whether we would move forward or
not so um that that is our agenda so
[33:37]
thank you for your
comments um we will open up now to um
[33:42]
our business our reports our department
reports um we have not met initially uh
[33:49]
since our last meeting with the um
oround Police Department um we did have
[33:53]
one interaction with them um about a a
um an incident of um of graffiti on a
[34:04]
stop sign um they responded very quickly
and are doing an investigation on it um
[34:10]
we removed the stop sign and put up a
new one um and it was related to um to
[34:16]
the to the Jewish community so we wanted
to make sure we acted quickly and and to
[34:22]
try to help people to kind of get
through where we are right
[34:25]
now um
[34:29]
Dennis nothing that except that
I happy to have received report from
[34:36]
Andy that our Fine Collection in the
Justice
[34:41]
Court this through my
prosecutorial work has brought in
[34:49]
significantly higher numbers than I
guess the past and I only say that
[34:55]
because it it's something that I think
I've heard over the past n months or so
[35:03]
about quality of life people speeding
not coming to complete stop stop signs
[35:07]
going through red lights and by being a
little bit more aggressive with the
[35:11]
findes U maybe the word gets out that
hey slow down come to a complete stop
[35:16]
the stop sign stop with red lights maybe
it
[35:21]
will eventually improve the quality of
life when it comes to Traffic Safety so
[35:26]
I'm happy to accept that report from the
village administrator and I hope to
[35:31]
continue to uh send the message out on
the street that a new
[35:36]
sheriff well thank you Dennis and I
think it also speaks to what we heard
[35:42]
about making sure that we're that we're
following through on our finds and
[35:46]
Notting not allowing people to just do
things that they shouldn't be doing in
[35:51]
their vills and being very very diligent
about that and making sure that we have
[35:55]
the the process
to let this gentl know I missed your
[35:58]
name I'm sorry um I have been in
communication with the uh attorney
[36:03]
representing the board of fire
Commissioners and um expressing to me
[36:07]
the board of fire Commissioners very
serious concern about the excessive
[36:11]
false alarm problem and I'm treating
that very very very seriously and um
[36:18]
unfortunately these last several
defendants that were supposed to appear
[36:22]
for excessive false alarms a couple
weeks ago cour none of them showed up
[36:26]
but my int was to be pretty harsh on
fines and I will continue to do so yeah
[36:31]
I think we I think we need to we need to
this is important for our volunteer
[36:35]
service that we do
this okay um thank you Dennis
[36:41]
Andy just a couple items uh just
following up on that we had intended to
[36:45]
have a finance report from our C
Treasurer tonight but she was taking
[36:48]
Hill unable to appear
so I look forward to Bringing full
[36:53]
information to the board at our next
meeting um you did have in your packets
[36:57]
and posted online a um a year to date
for the first quarter um
[37:03]
and in terms of fines through the court
system um dramatic Improvement compared
[37:10]
to last year I know there's a backlog I
think Dennis has really been working
[37:14]
hard so again I want to also commend
Dennis for his hard work working with
[37:18]
Ryan and Alexandria and judge Noble and
others to um to run a tight ship there
[37:25]
so thanks for that
um so we'll have a full planishing
[37:29]
report for you on the
26 while you have that in hand if you
[37:34]
have any questions or things you want us
to focus on for that report please let
[37:37]
me know I can talk and the same goes for
the public it's on it's on the website
[37:42]
if you review it and you have any
questions please feel free to let us
[37:46]
know what they are and we'll address
them in our next
[37:50]
meeting so we won't go into that right
now um just from the bookback in capital
[37:56]
project
right now we've been we had two things
[37:59]
going on this week one was a piece of
the tap Broadway sidewalk project which
[38:04]
was a burying of of electrical lines
between light poles in front of P book
[38:09]
shop and south of Bird Street that was
completed this week and um they have a
[38:14]
couple little things to do to finish up
their
[38:17]
project um we may have enough money left
after all the billing we're waiting to
[38:22]
see to do more next year so we obtained
proactively an extension on that
[38:28]
contract with the state in case after we
pay the remaining bills to attack hva
[38:34]
and play and that we're we can assess
whether we have enough to take on
[38:37]
another section of the
sidewalk which would be nice of course
[38:42]
um we also have sidewalk work going on
heading down South Broadway in front of
[38:46]
tman towers the brick house and a nyak
center that cdbg funded um Tera Firma
[38:52]
has doing a great job they're working
fast they're about to turn the corner
[38:56]
onto few originally we had bid out just
the South Broadway section but they came
[39:00]
in with a really good price so it's was
enough money to make probably all the
[39:04]
way up to Franklin on the sections that
are that are deteriorated there there's
[39:08]
a couple sections that were done fairly
recently they're in good shape up by the
[39:12]
Franklin
Corner it's on Pew Avenue so so we were
[39:17]
we're talking with the um man Plaza
Housing Authority n Center and others to
[39:23]
coordinate um that project will be going
up to pew started um probably not Friday
[39:29]
but certainly early next week that's
great so so that's going on the marina
[39:35]
Paving project we're really excited
about that's starting this week yeah um
[39:38]
because of the rain this weekend um
they're not going to go full boore today
[39:43]
tomorrow um but they're definitely
rallying their forces and mobilizing to
[39:48]
to pave that lot which hopefully we'll
improve the drainage as well because we
[39:53]
get some big puddles down there and
we're hoping to see that situation
[39:57]
mitigated a
[40:00]
bit I wanted to just mention also the
mayor mentioned this the last meeting is
[40:05]
there's going to be unveiling of a new
Memorial sign right here on the corner
[40:08]
of Broadway and ler um commemorate
commemorating the victims of the Brinks
[40:13]
robbery that's on October 20th at 2 o'
right before the annual event that takes
[40:20]
place at one mountain un I don't know if
you want to say more about that but
[40:23]
that's it no that's perfect I just um we
have date again October 20th at 2:00
[40:29]
right out here right outside um we use
the Village Hall steps as sort of the
[40:35]
the
U de and U it's I'm I'm really excited
[40:40]
about we've got the sign we're ready to
go um and it's it's I think it'll be a
[40:46]
great event and then it'll be followed
by the by the normal memorial service
[40:50]
we've worked very closely with Bob vuro
um under Secret Under secretary under
[40:55]
sheriff for for Rockman County who has
been very active in following up with
[41:00]
the families that were affected by that
since almost since the day it happened
[41:05]
um and uh he's he's been working with
the families to make sure that they'll
[41:08]
be able to be here for so it's it's will
be a nice event you know this is where
[41:14]
this is the building that the um police
um station was in during that time um so
[41:21]
they were actually in our jail here for
a while before they were transferred to
[41:26]
to the county Jil so very significant
event on October 20th that's just so I
[41:33]
hope hope lot of people from the public
come join
[41:37]
us one other item mayor I have for you a
draft of our 2024 calendar work on with
[41:44]
Amar with circles on the dates proposed
for village board
[41:49]
meetings and everybody can just check
out with their calendars and make sure
[41:53]
that you don't have any you can avoid
conflict
[41:56]
we're going want to approve this
calendar before the end of the year so
[41:59]
people know what's going on in January
February
[42:02]
time yeah as the board will remember we
usually adopt the calendar at our
[42:07]
organizational meeting um we have we're
still working through the details so Joe
[42:11]
and I have not we have to wait for Joe
to actually be elected before the UN I
[42:15]
and start talking about it but um we're
we'll work on an organizational meeting
[42:21]
um to ensure that all of the mayor
appointments are made for next year in
[42:25]
the time
way but that's part of it so please look
[42:30]
look it over make sure we've got it
right and that you're available on those
[42:35]
days one other reminder mayor on the 26
uh we invited the um the leadership of
[42:42]
our climate action plan to a workshop at
645 and they had already shared
[42:49]
extensive documents drafted to The
Village's climate action plan so now is
[42:54]
a great time to re-review that any
questions you want to email me out
[42:57]
forward to Marcy and Steve and the team
we try to make sure we're prepared
[43:02]
anything the board wants to know when
they come in Andy one of the things that
[43:06]
I that I think we really need to think
about I've read through it when first
[43:12]
got it and I was skimming through it as
I was looking at all the SM climate
[43:16]
smart stuff that is coming through a
mayor's conference or fin um and um
[43:23]
we're ahead of a lot of
people and we I we need a marketing plan
[43:28]
to ensure that this is publicized and in
a public way um and then we we take the
[43:33]
leadership
that's what level
[43:42]
we this SL clent smart plan will I think
put us
[43:46]
over but we we you know we've been
taking leadership on this and I really
[43:50]
think we that we ought to ask them to
come up with the way that they would
[43:54]
like to see us really put this
out last week
[44:00]
I just got
[44:03]
there spaces so yeah Hastings got their
bronze just before we did
[44:11]
as yeah this is something that we should
be proud of as a village should really
[44:17]
put it out there what we're
doing certainly with that with the
[44:22]
presentation and then the edits and
ultimately the adoption of this plan
[44:26]
um it's a a lot has been done to get
there but the plan includes a lot more
[44:33]
to do and there's been a good deal of
Engagement by members of the community
[44:38]
some very active
committees and so I think there's going
[44:42]
be a lot more to try it's
great anything else that's all I got for
[44:48]
now thanks okay um old business is the
request for us to consider um uh text
[44:56]
Amendment um that's exactly what we're
doing we're not considering the text
[45:02]
Amendment we're considering whether we
want to consider the
[45:06]
text
so two two considers in
[45:12]
there
um so maybe we could just um get a sense
[45:18]
of the um Dennis can you give us the
options again you gave us what our
[45:23]
options are our options are to
the
[45:27]
proposed fourth your option is to just
decline to consider it and like i' said
[45:34]
as long as your reason for declining um
is not based upon a
[45:40]
unconstitutional and unconstitutional
ground um you don't have that's your
[45:47]
legislative discretion you can say you
just not interested thank you um one of
[45:52]
the reasons could be that you think
you're zoning in that particular n
[45:55]
neighborhood is good the way it is
that's a perfectly valid reason to say
[46:00]
we're not interested in considering this
proposed text Amendment or the village
[46:05]
has other priorities right now that
we're focusing on and we uh not to say
[46:09]
that another several months this is
something that we might consider but
[46:13]
right now we have other priorities focus
on and if and if we are contemplating
[46:18]
considering it our next move would it be
to ask for for some advisement from our
[46:23]
planner from our village planner yes
probably ultimately we have that that's
[46:29]
a more formal
step would be the village plan get his
[46:34]
thoughts so what what's the sense of the
board thinking of the board at this
[46:38]
point on this you have a question yeah I
just had a question I know from I think
[46:43]
a couple meetings back one Community
member who lived in that area had
[46:49]
mentioned the person as um not meeting
with them or any or talking with them
[46:54]
about any of the plans and they're
pursuing I just wanted to know if
[46:57]
anything has changed has whoever the
owner of this is reached out to the
[47:03]
community members in that area talk to
them at all I'm just curious if any of
[47:08]
you guys know I have no idea
yeah out at all
[47:13]
no and he's he's U we have not had any
representation of the text Amendment
[47:19]
itself okay to the board either or to
the staff just the just the doctor okay
[47:26]
[Music]
go next to anybody anybody we don't need
[47:32]
to go down the
line just as far as I understand it um
[47:37]
this involves a proposal that was
already put forth I think to the was
[47:41]
planning
board CBA that's the CBA for I guess
[47:48]
approval on a building plan
that was a pretty ambitious pretty
[47:55]
ambitious uh plan uh when that was
turned down they then came to us for a
[48:00]
text amendment that would allow by right
the ability to build um I think multif
[48:06]
family I'm not sure what the one it
would be but multif family but again we
[48:09]
would not be approving that we would
just be referring it for
[48:14]
consideration um I I don't know to me I
don't I think this is not right for us
[48:19]
and I don't think it's something that we
should submit to the planning board um I
[48:23]
think that I from what I know um and
have seen of the plan that was presented
[48:29]
to the zoning board I think it's
something that the person who has
[48:34]
petitioned for both the zoning change
text Amendment as well as propos the
[48:39]
building to the building department did
not have a realistic approach to what he
[48:44]
was trying to build and I think that you
know if he wants to do something that is
[48:48]
beyond what the zoning allows he should
perhaps propose something that would be
[48:52]
a little bit more acceptable to the
zoning board as as well as to the local
[48:56]
community even if that was more than a
two family this was six family with a
[49:00]
pool I and things like that which was a
little a
[49:05]
little ambitious put it that
way um and so I don't think that this is
[49:11]
something we need to consider right now
we have a lot on our plate the planning
[49:13]
board has a lot on their plate I think
that the the the person can go back and
[49:17]
try to get another plan for that
property approved um in the normal
[49:22]
course of uh of trying to get projects
St can that be my opinion can I just ask
[49:28]
to because it was a mentioned that it's
not just that lot it's like the
[49:31]
surrounding Lots how does that work what
they're saying is that there are other
[49:36]
he's he's trying not to say I want a
text Amendment from my own lot right so
[49:40]
he's saying there are number of lots
that are large
[49:43]
enough in the in the area to accommodate
larger than two family homes
[49:49]
theoretically none of them have bigger
Lots but they could and so what what
[49:53]
he's saying is we should allow Parcels
of this size to allow more than two
[49:58]
family homs the street Frontage of this
amount with the side bulk size of this
[50:02]
amount that's that's basic I guess
followup is can you do that without the
[50:09]
consent of the owners of those property
like it does or that doesn't change
[50:13]
anything it would allow them to do more
than they currently do so it wouldn't
[50:16]
need to they wouldn't need we wouldn't
need their consent to pass the zoning
[50:21]
change um they could certainly come and
talk about it if they want
[50:26]
we wouldn't necessarily need it's our
decision if we wanted to move
[50:31]
forward any
thoughts I I completely agree with Jo we
[50:37]
have so
[50:41]
much there this and this will take this
will take a lot of study to to make sure
[50:47]
that we do it right that it doesn't leak
into other zones it's it's not it's not
[50:52]
just as simple as the document sounds
there's a lot of considerations that
[50:57]
need to be made we're working through
the etpa we're working through stuff
[51:01]
with the LC we're working through stuff
with Rock and Gardens um and other
[51:06]
entities and and working on affordable
housing I I just think that we're we
[51:11]
just can't deal with
this we make a vote on
[51:18]
this is that we're not going to take any
action
[51:21]
yeah okay um new business was the land
use technical committee and the sidewalk
[51:27]
repair project which we already approved
so I don't think you need to tell us
[51:31]
about that um the land use technical is
an
[51:35]
item right and I I explained what we're
doing okay so just it's a little bit
[51:41]
different from I don't know if you
talked about the the they proposed a
[51:46]
change to our sign code what what Steve
said was he was sorry he couldn't make
[51:53]
it um he would come on the 26th and
present everything but he would give us
[51:58]
an email explaining all the changes that
the
[52:02]
lutc so do you think we should move the
sign thing faster than that um I don't
[52:08]
think it's urgent mayor I just want to
distinguish that because what Steve I
[52:12]
think is intending on presenting has to
do with affordable housing and
[52:15]
Abus and he mentioned the he mentioned
the sign thing told me he didn't want to
[52:21]
he didn't want on the side law question
okay what do you propose how do we move
[52:27]
this forward well that the The Village
trustee should review the the draft
[52:33]
amendments to the uh the sign law to the
sign law which I can summarize quickly
[52:39]
okay why don't you do that and then
we'll decide whether we want to move it
[52:41]
forward to legislation is that what you
want right okay
[52:45]
so quick summary yeah it boils down to
um lessening the load on the
[52:52]
ARB that anytime anybody
comes in with any kind of change to an
[52:58]
existing legally existing sign it has to
go ARB so ARB is saying look if it's
[53:04]
only going to be a simple or basic
design change to a legally existing sign
[53:10]
you don't need to go you don't need to
go to the ARB and basic or simple design
[53:16]
change is defined I bur you with the
definition here it's pretty simple
[53:21]
definition but you can figure out it's a
basic or simple design change does not
[53:26]
need to go that's all has the ARB said
signed off on this yeah I think they
[53:33]
were one of the
progenitors this was slowing them down
[53:37]
because they're getting approvals for
minor variations to I just want to make
[53:41]
sure that's on the
record okay so any questions about
[53:46]
that so why don't we go through getting
it set for legislation we'll put a
[53:51]
public hearing out notot to do public
hearing we'll do a public hearing um at
[53:57]
the 26 we'll set a public hearing for it
and then we'll that for hearing would
[54:01]
not be 26 no no no no we'll consider it
on
[54:05]
the um yeah we've got a lot of stuff on
the 26 I feel like we're going to be
[54:09]
here till the
[54:12]
28th um so
[54:16]
um before we move on with any other
Communications to the communications
[54:21]
piece um there's two items that I would
like to um move for um adoption one is
[54:28]
an executive session to discuss
potential litigation and Personnel
[54:32]
issues need a motion in
second second all in favor I oos motion
[54:39]
carried motion from Donna second from
Joe um and the second is for us to set
[54:46]
public hearing for October
26 at
[54:49]
800m for the opting in of considering
the opting in of the etpa legislation
[54:58]
second that was that said right yeah I
would just only supplement with the
[55:03]
technical term is Declaration of a house
a declaration of a local housing
[55:08]
emergency which means consider that just
to open a public hearing for the
[55:13]
consideration of of that soov second
motion from Donna second from all in
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favor I I oppose ter thank you for
indulging me on that I completely forgot
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those two things
um Communications um you've all seen the
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back and forth with um concerning
thepa um you've seen the document with a
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proposal from the landlords which we
will
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discuss um and our responses back and
forth um on it I think they're think
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they're it's great process we're really
following a good process we've we're
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moving I think think in a very very good
way and I'm looking forward to the
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conversations with the landlords once we
have a chance to decide what what we
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think is the Right Way Forward um the
rest of the communications are
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basically um notices to us I'm not sure
that we have to take any action on any
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of them at this point you don't need to
take action so these are just notices of
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um from the office of cannabis
management um for an application for an
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adult used retail dispensary within our
village limits um we have we have no
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reason to take any action at all they're
just notifications there Daniel I know
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that this is where you wanted to say
something so um is there any questions
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of the board first and then we'll go to
public
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comment
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except okay we're not um Dennis I need
your help here since we're not
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considering anything um her um members
of her family are going to speak to one
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of the notices which she need to recuse
herself and from that discussion from
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even the presentation or are we okay to
move forward there's no there's no
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action that the board can take on these
notices that received from the office of
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C you probably get once in a while from
the state Li Authority we get them all
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the time yeah wasn't time probably all
the time they're ignored because there's
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really not much for you guys to do with
anything so what we should do is put
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into the rec which I think you've
already done
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that so that's in the record there's no
question about
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that I will I will not make any comments
even though we just we're not going to
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make any comments we're happy to hear
everything that anybody has to say but
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there's no there's no no reason for us
to have comments at this point we'll
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take anything under advisement that
people bring to us but there really we
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don't have anything to consider so I I
also can I also P to the record that I
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have a vague sense that one of these
properties might
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involve um some sort of relationship
with rant commercial which is a real
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estate company that I have a financial
interest in I don't actually know if we
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do but on the possibility that there
might be I just want to have on the
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record that um if any action was taken I
would recuse from the action and um that
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I don't have any personal knowledge of
any any of the actions being
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contemplated here
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okay public comment what does that
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me yeah um recuse recusals are if you're
going to vote on something that you have
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a financial or fiscal um you can gain
something from it then you would recuse
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yourself from the vote the fact that
we're not having any votes now where
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these both individuals have
said what they might recuse themselves
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from if we did consider something but
there's no purpose or reason for there
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to be a recuse does that answer your
question sir okay sir good evening my
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name is Daniel an 863 Avenue in N so I'm
I'm talk I'm coming to make a request to
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you again um in terms of the bmu one and
two zones and as it relates to
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permitting cannabis
facilities um the
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law Zing laws is written currently
um basically says everything
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complemented in the dmu1 is permitted in
dmu2 except for three things first one
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is dmu2 zones allows for um apartments
on the ground floor it's not allowed in
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the dmu1
but that's an incentive there's an
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incentive for people in that part of the
zone to perhaps um put apartments on the
[1:00:04]
ground
floor then you have a height um
[1:00:10]
incentive in exchange for affordable
housing in the dmu1 it's not allowed in
[1:00:16]
dmu2 but again you're
incentivizing creative uses of housing
[1:00:21]
so you're rewarding the uh
the property owners in a certain way um
[1:00:29]
by those things whereas with the
cannabis use you're actually prohibiting
[1:00:35]
specific just one specific commercial
use to property owners in
[1:00:41]
dmu2 um why reading them differently for
that one specific use and I think that's
[1:00:48]
unfair so I'm asking you again I would
urge the board to pass a resolution
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stating that the Cannabis facilities
that are permitted in the mu1 zones are
[1:00:59]
also permitted in the mu2 zones thank
you thank you Daniel we we will review
[1:01:05]
that and um and discuss it with but not
tonight thank you any other public
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comments on any
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item hearing none on board reports Marie
you want to start us off I usually pick
[1:01:23]
on Pascal Marie want to start nothing to
report it's only been nothing since last
[1:01:31]
week we we have one sign thing went to
all three of us
[1:01:39]
actually the um the
cand yes there was a candle light
[1:01:46]
Memorial at city courthouse on Tuesday
Tuesday night right which was a very
[1:01:52]
well-run event and very
Sol very sad
[1:01:58]
situation
yes that's Donna you want to go next go
[1:02:04]
down we can go next I have a question in
my whatever we going I have um I haven't
[1:02:12]
been to a Housing Authority meeting in a
while there hasn't been any and I heard
[1:02:16]
today that they changed the
day you know no that would be up to
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their board they should inform
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represent okay I'll check
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with um just sort of a quas eye
announcement which I'm sure we all talk
[1:02:37]
about is The Rockin Riverway Trail
visibility study I'm very excited about
[1:02:42]
it I like to ride my bike on the KN
Beach Trail and it would nice it would
[1:02:46]
be nice to see that expand and also make
our Roose a little bit safer get less
[1:02:50]
bikes on Broadway decongest that area
oning the weekends so so everyone should
[1:02:55]
try to attend it's on October 17th um
you can drop in between 6:30 and 9:00
[1:03:00]
p.m. at Roth bosies the gymnasium also
known as I believe the old night high
[1:03:05]
school for those o people the date again
um it's October 17 are you calling me an
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OG is that what she just called me
sure only OG swim in
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the so um I'm really it's um between
6:30 and 9:00 p.m. um I'm excited about
[1:03:25]
it so I think everyone should also be
excited about it too and as we said
[1:03:31]
earlier you know praying for peace um
praying for all the victims um and you
[1:03:36]
know hoping to see better days in the
future
[1:03:41]
than um I've been talking the whole time
so I don't have anything to to add to
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what I've said um so um I will entertain
a motion to move into next session some
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second all in favor motion carried thank
you thank you everyone for joining us
[1:04:00]
tonight I hope we were
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entertaining next meeting I should say
not next
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meeting