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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: okay, it is
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7:01 pm.
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This is absolutely glorious to
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see you all here.
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Amazing.
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This should be every single
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meeting, but I am grateful that
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you came out.
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Yes!
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[Applause]
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Truly beautiful.
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With that, I would like to
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officially call this meeting of
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the village board to order.
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Clerk waters, please take the
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roll.
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>> trustee buchanan is absent.
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Trustee enyia.
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>> here.
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>> trustee parakkat.
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>> here.
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>> trustee robinson.
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>> here.
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>> trustee straw.
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>> here.
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>> trustee wesley.
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>> here.
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>> PRESIDENT Scaman.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: here.
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Okay, I would entertain a
[1:03]
motion to approve the agenda as
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presented this evening?
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>> so moved.
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>> second.
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Scaman: all I favor?
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>> aye.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: excellent.
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A motion to approve minutes
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from the MARCH 4, 25 regular
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meeting of the village board.
[1:18]
>> so moved.
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>> second.
[1:20]
>> motion by trustee wesley and
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seconded by trustee straw.
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All in favor?
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>> aye.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: hearing no
[1:28]
nay's, the meeting minutes are
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approved.
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we have public comment this
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evening?
[1:36]
>>clerk: we do.
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It is for an agenda item.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: are there
[1:40]
any non-agenda public comment
[1:41]
this evening?
[1:42]
Thank you.
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So we will not read all of
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these proclamations, but the
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most important ones-they are
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all important ones.
[1:50]
I would entertain a motion to
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approve a proclamation honoring
[1:54]
fire chief ronald kobeleski, in
[2:00]
honor of his retirement.
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>> so moved.
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>> second
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[Applause]
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: wo was the
[2:12]
motion and the second?
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Trustee robinson and trustee
[2:16]
wesley.
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So we will read the
[2:19]
proclamation, if you want to
[2:24]
step up so we can have you-
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show our full appreciation for
[2:29]
your 40 years of service.
[2:31]
>>chief kobyleski: thank you,
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thank you.
[2:46]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: in oak
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park, are you sure?
[2:52]
Okay.
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>> whereas, fire chief ronald
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kobyleski will retire
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officially on MAY 10, 2025,
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after more than 40 years of
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outstanding and meritorious
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service to the residents of the
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village of oak park; and
[3:06]
.
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>>trustee enyia: whereas, chief
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kobyleski began his public
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service career with the village
[3:13]
of oak park in 1985 as a
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firefighter/emt and through
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hard work, meritorious service
[3:19]
and leadership, rose through
[3:23]
the ranks to serve as a
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lieutenant, lieutenant of
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training, battalion chief and
[3:28]
deputy chief before reaching
[3:32]
his final and most important
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position of oak park's fire
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chief on NOVEMBER 22nd, 2021;
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and
[3:42]
.
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>>trustee straw: whereas,
[3:44]
during his tenure, chief
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kobyleski has demonstrated
[3:46]
exceptional leadership,
[3:47]
unwavering dedication and a
[3:48]
profound commitment to the
[3:49]
well-being of the village of
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oak park; and
[3:53]
.
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>>trustee robinson: whereas,
[3:55]
throughout his five decades of
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service chief kobyleski hs
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served as a certified fire
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investigator,
[4:01]
hazardous-materials technician
[4:02]
and technical rescue specialist
[4:03]
in building collapse, high-rise
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rescue, trench rescue and
[4:09]
confined-space rescue, also
[4:11]
creating the mutual aid box
[4:13]
alarm system technical rescue
[4:14]
team, while leading them for
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nine years; and
[4:24]
.
[4:25]
>>trustee wesley: whereas,
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chief kobyleski is certified as
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advance fire officer and
[4:29]
training program manager and he
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has been affiliated with the
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international fire chief's
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association, illinois fire
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chief's association and the
[4:36]
national fire protection
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association; and
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.
[4:42]
>>trustee parakkat: whereas,
[4:43]
chief kobyleski has led the oak
[4:45]
park fire department to make
[4:47]
great strides in providing
[4:48]
accommodations for all genders
[4:49]
and sexual orientations by
[4:50]
enclosing the sleeping quarters
[4:53]
at two of its stations and
[4:54]
reimaging and modernizing
[5:00]
washroom and locker facilities.
[5:02]
>>village manager: whereas,
[5:08]
chief kobyleski's dedication to
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the safety and welfare of oak
[5:10]
park's residents and visitors,
[5:11]
as well as the women and men of
[5:13]
the oak park fire department,
[5:14]
has earned him the respect and
[5:16]
admiration of his colleagues,
[5:17]
community leaders and the
[5:19]
entire village of oak park.
[5:20]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: now,
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therefore, be it resolved, by
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the board of trustees of the
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village of oak park, cook
[5:25]
county, illinois that we take
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this opportunity to express our
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sincere and grateful
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appreciation and hereby extend
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our congratulations to fire
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chief ron kobyleski on his
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well-earned retirement and our
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best wishes to him for
[5:41]
continued success and happiness
[5:48]
in the years to come.
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[Applause]
[6:16]
[Standing applause]
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>>chief kobyleski: thank you
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all.
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It is a very humbling.
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Especially when it is read like
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that.
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I have to say thank you to the
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village board for supporting
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the fire department mission for
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all of these years and to the
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public.
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They have always rallied on our
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side.
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Always come to our aid when we
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need their help and I
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appreciate that.
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It has been a fantastic 40
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years.
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I was not kidding when I said
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it goes by quick.
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I remember my first day like it
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was yesterday and it has been
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an experience.
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i cannot even tell you.
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I really appreciate everybody
[7:02]
who came out here for me.
[7:04]
My wife, former member-
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(Speaker away from mic).
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Thank you.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
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you, chief!
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We have a month or so to drop
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by the station and assure our
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regards.
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We very much appreciate you and
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wish you all the best in
[9:23]
retirement.
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All in favor?
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>> aye.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: motion to
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approve a proclamation for
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arbor day, APRIL 25, 2025.
[9:33]
>> so moved.
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>> second.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: okay.
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Many of these motions are going
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to be honored more so in the
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month of APRIL with events and
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more information.
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There is a video of this one on
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the website and as we get
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closer to the date we will be
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publicizing it more.
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Thank you.
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All in favor?
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>> aye.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: motion to
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approve a proclamation
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designating APRIL 21 of 2025 as
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national community development
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week.
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Motion, please?
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>> so moved.
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>> second.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
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favor?
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>> aye.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[10:21]
you.
[10:21]
Again the same.
[10:21]
Motion to approve a
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proclamation for black maternal
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health week of APRIL 11-17,
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2025.
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>> so moved.
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>> second.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
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you.
[10:28]
Clerk waters has read this one
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unto the record on the website
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and so let's please I'll check
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that t and again, we will do a
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great deal more that week in
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APRIL.
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At thank you.
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All in favor?
[10:40]
>> aye.
[10:54]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: yes!
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Also a special thank you to
[11:00]
clerk waters for bringing us
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that proclamation.
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Yes.
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[Applause]
[11:12]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: motion to
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approve a proclamation of
[11:14]
arab-american heritage month
[11:15]
2025 and I have asked trustee
[11:16]
parakkat if he would please
[11:17]
read this aloud.
[11:18]
Motion, please.
[11:18]
>> so moved.
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>> second.
[11:20]
Scaman: at thank you.
[11:24]
>>trustee parakkat:
[11:25]
arab-american heritage month,
[11:26]
APRIL 2025.
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Whereas, the village of oak
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park is committed to fostering
[11:38]
a community that is welcoming,
[11:39]
-- arab-americans in our
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country come from a variety of
[11:41]
natures, cultures, and faith
[11:42]
backgrounds, and from one of 22
[11:45]
arabic-speaking countries,
[11:46]
infusing resilient values,
[11:47]
strong work ethic, dedication
[11:48]
to education and diversity; and
[11:49]
whereas, the diversity of oak
[11:51]
park is a constant source of
[11:52]
strength and enrichment for our
[11:55]
community and this month we
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recognize and celebrate the
[11:59]
vibrant arab american
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community, its history, culture
[12:03]
and achievement in oak park and
[12:09]
around the country; and
[12:10]
whereas, proclaiming
[12:11]
arab-american heritage month in
[12:13]
oak park serves to promote
[12:14]
understanding, appreciation and
[12:15]
respect for the contributions
[12:17]
and experiences of
[12:18]
arab-american people, while
[12:19]
also celebrating their
[12:20]
heritage, culture and
[12:21]
successes; and
[12:23]
whereas, while arab american
[12:24]
heritage month occurs during
[12:26]
APRIL, we recognize the rich
[12:27]
culture shared by arab
[12:29]
americans makes a positive
[12:31]
impact in our community
[12:35]
throughout the entire year; and
[12:37]
whereas, we take time to pause
[12:39]
and reflect on the pain being
[12:40]
felt by arab americans and
[12:42]
arabs around the world as a
[12:44]
result of the ongoing conflict
[12:46]
in gaza. We know the gravity of
[12:47]
the situation affects many
[12:50]
around the globe; and
[12:52]
whereas, we have heard from and
[12:53]
affirm the many local voices
[12:55]
that have spoken to raise our
[12:57]
collective awareness of these
[13:02]
heartbreaking events over the
[13:15]
last several months. Now more
[13:16]
than ever, it is imperative
[13:17]
that we come together in
[13:17]
solidarity and show compassion
[13:18]
to one another in the midst of
[13:19]
adversity. In doing so, we
[13:20]
shall reiterate our commitment
[13:21]
to empathy and open dialogue as
[13:22]
we strive for peace and justice
[13:23]
both locally and around the
[13:28]
world. Whereas, the village of
[13:34]
oak park is excited to --
[13:36]
2025, honoring the rich
[13:38]
cultural traditions, history
[13:39]
and contributions of
[13:40]
arab-american's.
[13:46]
The celebration will feature an
[13:47]
array of educational and
[13:49]
cultural experiences, including
[13:50]
live music, traditional dance,
[13:52]
food, and art, calligraphy and
[13:52]
cultural displays.
[13:56]
Selecting the vibrancy and
[13:57]
diversity of the arab-american
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community and fostering the
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great understanding and
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inclusion throughout the
[14:02]
village.
[14:04]
Be it resolved that the village
[14:05]
of oak park supports the
[14:06]
celebration of arab-american
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heritage month, and now,
[14:11]
therefore, I, ravi parakkat, on
[14:12]
behalf of vicki scaman,
[14:13]
PRESIDENT Of the village of oak
[14:14]
park and the board of trustees,
[14:15]
do hereby proclaim APRIL as the
[14:16]
month of our arab-american
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heritage month celebration and
[14:19]
encourage all residents to join
[14:20]
us in embracing the enrichment
[14:21]
that their cultures bring to
[14:22]
our lives. Let us come together
[14:23]
as a community to celebrate
[14:23]
arab-american heritage month,
[14:24]
honoring our shared values of
[14:25]
inclusivity and cultural
[14:38]
appreciation. Dated this 18th
[14:39]
day of MARCH, 2025.
[14:40]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[14:48]
you. >>PRESIDENT Scaman:
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thank you.
[14:56]
Maybe we can have an all in
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favor?
[14:56]
>> aye.
[14:58]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: just a
[14:59]
moment of silence for the
[15:02]
devastation in gaza and israel
[15:28]
right now.
[15:29]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: I think you
[15:30]
as this continues to weigh
[15:35]
heavy on our hearts.
[15:36]
I would entertain a motion to
[15:37]
approve a proclamation of
[15:45]
national public health week for
[15:46]
APRIL 7-13th of 2025.
[15:47]
>> so moved.
[15:48]
>> second.
[15:49]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
[15:49]
favor?
[15:50]
>> aye.
[15:51]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: again, we
[15:52]
will have some really wonderful
[15:56]
things around public health,
[15:57]
particularly mental health as
[16:00]
we move forward and I think our
[16:01]
public health department for
[16:05]
leading on the and our clerk's
[16:06]
office, always.
[16:06]
And the staff.
[16:07]
A motion to approve a
[16:10]
proclamation for doctor percy
[16:11]
julian, 2025.
[16:11]
>> so moved.
[16:12]
>> second.
[16:21]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: I have
[16:22]
asked christina, trustee enyia,
[16:23]
and a trustee wesley to please
[16:25]
lead on the proclamation.
[16:30]
>>clerk:
[16:31]
julian was born in montgomery,
[16:32]
alabama on APRIL 11, 1899, and
[16:33]
was encouraged by his family to
[16:34]
leave the segregated south in
[16:35]
pursuit of higher education,
[16:36]
and graduating first in his
[16:38]
class from depauw university
[16:41]
with a bachelor's degree in
[16:41]
chemistry in 1920, earning a
[16:44]
master's degree in chemistry
[16:45]
from harvard university in
[16:47]
1923, and awarded a ph.D. From
[16:49]
the university of vienna,
[16:53]
austria, in 1931, being one of
[16:54]
the first african americans to
[17:03]
achieve this distinction; and
[17:06]
whereas, throughout his career
[17:07]
he faced discrimination,
[17:08]
relying on his brilliant
[17:09]
scientific mind, remarkable
[17:10]
work ethic, congenial spirit,
[17:12]
and deep religious beliefs to
[17:13]
become a renowned chemist who
[17:14]
would earn more than 130
[17:16]
patents and publish 150
[17:19]
scientific articles in his
[17:20]
career, receiving numerous
[17:22]
honors and a national and
[17:23]
international reputation, and
[17:26]
reaching breakthroughs in the
[17:29]
development of affordable,
[17:30]
commercial synthetic steroids
[17:31]
and hormones that have been
[17:34]
used in a wide range of
[17:35]
applications including birth
[17:37]
control pills and medications
[17:38]
to combat glaucoma and
[17:44]
rheumatoid arthritis; and
[17:44]
.
[17:46]
>>trustee enyia: whereas, his
[17:47]
wife anna also broke down
[17:48]
academic barriers when she
[17:49]
earned a ph.D. In sociology
[17:50]
from the university of
[17:52]
pennsylvania in 1937, one of
[17:53]
the few women to earn such a
[17:59]
distinction; and
[18:03]
came to the chicago area in
[18:05]
1936, when he was named to a
[18:08]
top research position at
[18:09]
glidden paint company in
[18:13]
chicago before founding his
[18:13]
laboratory, julian
[18:15]
laboratories, in franklin park,
[18:20]
illinois in 1953; and
[18:23]
julian was named chicagoan of
[18:28]
the year for his scientific and
[18:29]
community achievements, and
[18:29]
that same year he and anna
[18:32]
julian moved with their
[18:34]
children from their home in
[18:35]
nearby maywood, illinois, to
[18:40]
oak park; and
[18:40]
.
[18:41]
>>trustee wesley: whereas, very
[18:43]
early in their residence in oak
[18:44]
park, the julian family
[18:45]
experienced racism and threats
[18:46]
of violence, their home being
[18:48]
twice attacked by arsonists,
[18:49]
and yet the julians would
[18:51]
persevere against these acts of
[18:52]
hostility and discrimination
[18:53]
and became honored community
[18:56]
leaders, and whose children
[18:57]
were graduates of oak park
[19:00]
river forest high school and
[19:01]
whose daughter remains an oak
[19:02]
park resident in their original
[19:11]
family residence. Now,
[19:12]
therefore, I, trustee cory
[19:13]
wesley, on behalf of vicki
[19:14]
scaman, PRESIDENT Of the
[19:15]
village of oak park and the
[19:16]
board of trustees, do hereby
[19:16]
proclaim APRIL 11, 2025, DR.
[19:18]
Percy l. Julian day in the
[19:20]
village of oak park, and
[19:22]
encourage our community to
[19:23]
reflect on the many
[19:29]
achievements of DR. Percy
[19:31]
julian in science, medicine,
[19:32]
and research, as well as one of
[19:33]
oak park's pioneers in the
[19:34]
quest for inclusion, human and
[19:36]
civil rights, and a catalyst
[19:38]
for integration and diversity
[19:39]
to which the village of oak
[19:47]
park has committed. Dated, this
[19:54]
18th day of MARCH 2025.
[20:00]
[Pause]
[20:05]
[Applause]
[20:07]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: a thank you
[20:08]
so much for reading with us
[20:12]
today-all in favor?
[20:14]
>> aye.
[20:19]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: excellent.
[20:26]
Next, we have a motion to
[20:27]
approve a proclamation for
[20:28]
transgender day of visibility
[20:29]
MARCH 31, 2025.
[20:36]
>> so moved.
[20:36]
>> second.
[20:37]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: I have
[20:38]
asked christina to start us
[20:40]
off.
[20:42]
>>clerk: whereas, the village
[20:43]
of oak park is committed to
[20:44]
fostering a community that is
[20:45]
welcoming, inclusive, and
[20:46]
affirming of all individuals,
[20:47]
regardless of gender identity
[20:51]
or expression; and
[20:54]
whereas, transgender day of
[20:55]
visibility, observed annually
[20:58]
on MARCH 31, is a day to
[21:00]
celebrate the resilience,
[21:01]
contributions, and achievements
[21:03]
of transgender, non-binary, and
[21:04]
gender-diverse individuals,
[21:05]
while also recognizing the
[21:07]
ongoing challenges they face in
[21:09]
the pursuit of equality and
[21:14]
justice; and
[21:16]
whereas, transgender people
[21:17]
have made immeasurable
[21:18]
contributions to our society,
[21:19]
enriching the cultural,
[21:20]
economic, and social fabric of
[21:22]
oak park and beyond, and
[21:24]
deserve to live with dignity,
[21:26]
respect, and the freedom to be
[21:30]
their authentic selves; and
[21:30]
.
[21:32]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: whereas,
[21:33]
while great strides have been
[21:35]
made toward equity and
[21:36]
acceptance, transgender
[21:38]
individuals continue to
[21:39]
experience discrimination,
[21:42]
violence, and barriers to
[21:43]
healthcare, employment, and
[21:45]
housing, reinforcing the need
[21:46]
for continued advocacy,
[21:47]
education, and policy efforts
[21:48]
to ensure full inclusion and
[21:52]
equal rights; and
[21:55]
whereas, the village of oak
[21:56]
park recognizes both
[21:57]
transgender day of visibility
[21:59]
MARCH 31, and transgender day
[22:01]
of remembrance NOVEMBER 20, as
[22:04]
opportunities to stand in
[22:07]
solidarity with transgender
[22:08]
residents, allies, and
[22:09]
advocates, to uplift their
[22:12]
voices, and to reaffirm our
[22:14]
commitment to equity,
[22:15]
diversity, and inclusion for
[22:18]
all.
[22:20]
Now be it resolved that the
[22:21]
village of oak park supports
[22:24]
the recognition and celebration
[22:25]
of transgender day of
[22:27]
visibility, and now, therefore,
[22:28]
I, vicki scaman, PRESIDENT Of
[22:30]
the village of oak park and the
[22:31]
board of trustees, do hereby
[22:35]
proclaim MARCH 31, 2025, as
[22:38]
transgender day of visibility
[22:40]
in the village of oak park and
[22:43]
encourage all residents to join
[22:44]
us in uplifting and celebrating
[22:46]
the transgender community. Let
[22:48]
us come together as a community
[22:51]
to honor our shared values of
[22:52]
inclusivity, equity, and
[22:53]
visibility for all gender
[23:00]
identities.
[23:22]
[Applause]
[23:51]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: you are
[23:55]
beautiful.
[23:57]
If aaron, sarah, jane, anybody
[24:04]
wish to come up and share?
[24:14]
[Applause]
[24:16]
>>speaker: let me get my
[24:16]
remarks out.
[24:17]
First of all, I wanted to say
[24:19]
thank you so much and thank you
[24:20]
all so much.
[24:22]
It is an honor and a privilege,
[24:23]
deep deep gratitude, especially
[24:26]
in these times for the
[24:27]
recognition, the visibility,
[24:28]
the right to be free, the right
[24:31]
not to be under attack and
[24:32]
those of you who know me are
[24:33]
not surprised that I also want
[24:36]
to ask for more.
[24:37]
I would like to ask for oak
[24:38]
park, not today, but for us to
[24:45]
prepare to recognize and become
[24:55]
a trans sanctuary.
[24:56]
I also want to ask everybody or
[24:58]
invite everybody to come
[24:59]
celebrate with us.
[25:02]
We are having a butterfly dance
[25:03]
party on MARCH 30 in the
[25:06]
scoville park and it is open
[25:07]
everybody who is anybody and an
[25:10]
ally, technically everybody,
[25:16]
but if you're not, you can stay
[25:16]
home.
[25:17]
I want to say that trans day of
[25:18]
visibility is more than a
[25:21]
chance to be seen and more than
[25:22]
a party, and more than just
[25:22]
about dancing.
[25:23]
Our fundamental human rights
[25:25]
are under attack and now more
[25:25]
than ever.
[25:28]
Action must be taken.
[25:29]
I want to make it clear that
[25:30]
our rights are your rights.
[25:40]
The attacks on us are a attack
[25:40]
on everybody.
[25:42]
Trans people are more than just
[25:42]
people in this situation.
[25:44]
We also represent the
[25:46]
fundamental rights to
[25:47]
self-expression and
[25:48]
self-determination among other
[25:49]
things but real freedom
[25:50]
includes the choice to know
[25:51]
yourself for who you are and
[25:52]
the choice to live and love the
[25:54]
way that you choose.
[25:56]
We also represent the right to
[25:59]
healthcare in these times.
[26:00]
As our neighboring states make
[26:01]
it harder to exist as a trans
[26:02]
person, people are coming from
[26:03]
all over looking for a century
[26:06]
where they can be who they are
[26:10]
and access the healthcare they
[26:11]
need to thrive.
[26:15]
I want to thank you again for
[26:16]
organizing the importance of
[26:16]
trans visibility with this
[26:17]
resolution and I'm excited to
[26:20]
work with all of you to build
[26:21]
oak park into more of a
[26:22]
snctuary then we even are
[26:22]
today.
[26:23]
It will affirm people of all
[26:25]
identities and say we are all
[26:26]
welcome here.
[26:27]
I hope you all can make it to
[26:51]
the party.
[26:55]
Name is mike jackson and I
[26:56]
don't have anything prepared
[27:00]
for comments, but I want to say
[27:01]
-as you can see from my hat,
[27:06]
we recently moved back to oak
[27:11]
park, right before oak
[27:12]
park/river forest started.
[27:13]
We previously lived here from a
[27:16]
2002-2016 and I accepted a job
[27:26]
in tennessee in the SEPTEMBER
[27:27]
2016.
[27:28]
Tennessee is no problem, but
[27:29]
some events happened in a
[27:30]
NOVEMBER 2016 that you might
[27:33]
remember turned things around.
[27:34]
When PRESIDENT Trump was
[27:38]
elected the first time.
[27:40]
We had some bumpy neighbors,
[27:43]
but really tennessee was the
[27:51]
seed that was planted that
[27:51]
saved hatred.
[27:52]
It was planted in this country
[27:58]
and it spread like wildfire.
[27:58]
It was awful.
[28:01]
I am here with my beautiful
[28:13]
transgender daughter, leah,-
[28:14]
is absolutely thriving now that
[28:18]
she is up in oak park again.
[28:28]
From the beginning we got
[28:29]
interviewed by lambda at legal,
[28:30]
to be in the case in front of
[28:31]
the supreme court right now.
[28:37]
They said she has a compelling
[28:38]
case because she-she started
[28:39]
gender affirming care and it
[28:42]
was being taken from her.
[28:45]
Through a road that was just
[28:50]
absolutely horrible for her and
[28:51]
horrible for her whole family,
[28:54]
especially her mother and
[28:54]
myself.
[28:58]
It has been absolutely,
[29:00]
absolutely devastating.
[29:03]
She has got friends that are
[29:04]
similar to her going through
[29:08]
this.
[29:09]
But here's the thing, we know
[29:11]
that there is a plan, a place
[29:15]
we could return to.
[29:19]
A lot of people do not know oak
[29:20]
park and I have been spreading
[29:21]
the word as much as I can.
[29:23]
Come to oak park, here is the
[29:27]
letter from the school
[29:28]
superintendent.
[29:28]
Here are statements.
[29:30]
Here are proclamations of this
[29:30]
place.
[29:33]
this is like a fairyland, safe
[29:35]
for transgender people.
[29:39]
It is so welcoming and I cannot
[29:40]
tell you how great it has been
[29:41]
to be back here.
[29:44]
Having gone through all of
[29:50]
this, I could absolutely,
[29:51]
unequivocally say that equity,
[29:56]
diversity, justice, love,
[29:58]
acceptance, and most important,
[29:59]
gender affirming care.
[30:01]
Yes, gender affirming care does
[30:02]
save lives and do not let
[30:04]
anybody ever, ever tell you
[30:13]
otherwise.
[30:20]
[Applause]
[30:22]
>>speaker: thank you for the
[30:25]
opportunity, my name is jane
[30:26]
and I have found it to be a
[30:29]
real privilege to be here
[30:30]
tonight because, of course of
[30:31]
the transgender proclamation,
[30:35]
but also hearing about doctor
[30:36]
julian's being honored and the
[30:40]
black maternal health care that
[30:41]
the village is doing.
[30:42]
Thank you for all of these
[30:42]
efforts.
[30:45]
I find that it is important to
[30:53]
center trans voices and build
[30:53]
allies.
[30:54]
You will see a lot of people
[30:55]
that are parents of trans kids,
[30:56]
but I want to honor people who
[30:57]
are not parents of trans kids
[30:59]
or just feel the cause.
[31:02]
Like we can be intersectional
[31:03]
and that and I really mean
[31:04]
that.
[31:06]
It is so beautiful to see.
[31:11]
I wasn't schooled by my son
[31:12]
when I attended a different
[31:13]
thing that I did not say it the
[31:18]
right way because he was saying
[31:19]
that what we want to emphasize
[31:20]
and teach people who are not
[31:21]
allies, who do not see it this
[31:28]
way is that trans people have
[31:28]
done nothing wrong.
[31:29]
They are totally beautiful,
[31:30]
innocent, and whole human
[31:32]
beings full of integrity and
[31:33]
there is no backing down from
[31:34]
that.
[31:37]
To have you all supporting us
[31:39]
as a system and being proud is
[31:39]
very beautiful.
[31:55]
Thank you so much.
[32:00]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: that is
[32:00]
okay.
[32:01]
We will get one.
[32:02]
Thank you so much and thank you
[32:03]
all for being here.
[32:04]
You are the beautiful ones that
[32:07]
organize and make this so
[32:14]
special for us to support and
[32:20]
just love oak park.
[32:21]
Oak park is about the people
[32:22]
who live here and make it
[32:22]
great.
[32:24]
It is about the parents that
[32:25]
organize to support other
[32:28]
parents and our children who
[32:32]
are truly, truly beautiful.
[32:43]
Thank you.
[32:43]
All in favor?
[32:45]
>> aye.
[32:53]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: wonderful.
[32:54]
We do have a motion to proclaim
[32:55]
national volunteer week of
[32:56]
APRIL 20-26, 2025.
[32:56]
Motion?
[32:57]
>> so moved.
[32:57]
>> second.
[33:01]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: this
[33:03]
proclamation also is available
[33:04]
on the website and, you know, I
[33:08]
have to say that volunteerism
[33:14]
in our community is also really
[33:15]
at the core of who we are.
[33:16]
I love this proclamation and I
[33:17]
hope you will take a longer
[33:23]
look and I look forward to what
[33:24]
we can do to support the
[33:25]
volunteers in our community
[33:26]
during the month of APRIL.
[33:26]
All in favor?
[33:26]
>> aye.
[33:28]
>>PRESIDENT Saman: I have a
[33:29]
motion to approve a
[33:34]
proclamation for earth month of
[33:35]
APRIL 2025.
[33:35]
>> so moved.
[33:36]
>> second.
[33:37]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: okay, thank
[33:38]
you.
[33:39]
Again, the same and I know we
[33:40]
will have wonderful activities
[33:41]
around this as well.
[33:42]
All in favor?
[33:42]
>> aye.
[33:53]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[33:54]
We are moving on t our village
[33:55]
managers report.
[33:56]
Village manager jackson?
[33:57]
>>village manager: yes, thank
[33:58]
you PRESIDENT Scaman and
[33:59]
trustee members.
[34:00]
I have one quick update and I
[34:01]
will close with a
[34:02]
acknowledgment that I want to
[34:02]
make.
[34:03]
For a special guest here
[34:04]
tonight.
[34:05]
First and foremost I want to
[34:06]
acknowledge that we are working
[34:09]
to identify an alternative date
[34:12]
in APRIL for the board to hold
[34:15]
a discussion on municipal
[34:16]
campus police project, it was
[34:18]
originally planned for tonight.
[34:20]
Based upon the accelerated
[34:27]
schedule that we initially
[34:27]
published.
[34:28]
Just want to acknowledge that
[34:32]
the rescheduling process is
[34:33]
underway and we anticipate
[34:35]
finding a date in APRIL and we
[34:35]
look forward to having the
[34:37]
opportunity to finish the work
[34:45]
on the design schemes that we
[34:45]
previously talked about.
[34:46]
We have been talking about
[34:47]
since the project has been
[34:49]
underway and also providing the
[34:50]
updated and more refined cost
[34:51]
information, in addition to
[34:52]
responding to the boards
[34:53]
interest that was expressed at
[34:54]
the last meeting about sme
[34:55]
high-level financial analysis
[35:02]
of the potential schemes.
[35:02]
So again, I think in
[35:03]
conclusion, what we want to do
[35:04]
is do what we intended to do
[35:06]
from the outset and that is to
[35:07]
facilitate a complete
[35:08]
discussion with the board and
[35:18]
provide complete information to
[35:19]
the board to have the
[35:20]
opportunity to make the best
[35:21]
judgment on the next step in
[35:22]
the process and I think
[35:23]
included with that complete
[35:25]
information, it was always our
[35:26]
plan to provide the information
[35:27]
in enough time, given the
[35:28]
complexity and magnitude of the
[35:29]
project or the board would have
[35:34]
adequate time to review all of
[35:35]
the conclusions from this stage
[35:36]
of the process, as well as the
[35:36]
public.
[35:42]
We are happy to answer any
[35:42]
questions.
[35:43]
We are diligently continuing to
[35:46]
work on this effort and we have
[35:47]
director sproule from a public
[35:52]
works to answer any questions
[35:53]
if necessary.
[35:54]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: trustee
[35:55]
robinson?
[35:55]
>>trustee robinson: I have a
[35:56]
calendar question.
[35:58]
What is the first date that we
[35:59]
are supposed to be back in MAY?
[36:00]
Has that been calendared?
[36:02]
>>village manager: I think it
[36:05]
is MAY 6 is the first meeting
[36:06]
and that is the meeting where
[36:06]
the new board is seated.
[36:19]
>>trustee robinson: the
[36:20]
additional meeting would have
[36:21]
us coming back a week early
[36:22]
essentially?
[36:22]
>>village manager: yes.
[36:24]
>>trustee robinson: I think the
[36:25]
original plan was to have the
[36:26]
next facilities discussion,
[36:28]
which is APRIL 29, possibly may
[36:29]
1 that is possibly being
[36:30]
scheduled, have that be the
[36:31]
final facilities discussion?
[36:32]
Is that right?
[36:34]
Or are we still going to-it
[36:40]
is a lot to discuss in one
[36:41]
meeting, even in one special
[36:41]
meeting.
[36:42]
I'm just curious whether it is
[36:46]
your thought that we would sort
[36:47]
of bridge that over two
[36:48]
meetings?
[36:49]
Or are you thinking that is
[36:50]
just going to be that meeting
[36:54]
and we have to get it all done
[36:54]
then?
[36:56]
>>village manager: our hope is
[37:07]
that the board will have
[37:08]
complete information as planned
[37:09]
for tonight and an adequate
[37:10]
amount of time to provide the
[37:11]
staff with direction to move
[37:12]
the project to the next stage,
[37:13]
which is to finish this kinetic
[37:14]
design process.
[37:15]
In that meeting we are hoping
[37:16]
to get direction on one
[37:17]
variation of the one design
[37:18]
option that the board has
[37:22]
directed us to work on and then
[37:24]
once the board provides that
[37:25]
direction, then it makes sense
[37:29]
for us to work with jl k to
[37:31]
finish the schematic design
[37:34]
with that one option.
[37:36]
I think that was kind of always
[37:41]
the plan to work towards one
[37:42]
option before we spend any
[37:45]
additional money on the project
[37:46]
and move the project to the
[37:47]
next stage because moving the
[37:48]
project to the next stage is
[37:51]
kind of the first step towards
[37:52]
implementation.
[37:55]
>>trustee robinson: okay.
[37:57]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: any other
[37:58]
questions?
[38:01]
Okay, I will just share as is
[38:07]
often the role of the village
[38:08]
PRESIDENT To summarize what i
[38:10]
have heard is the consensus of
[38:13]
the board, as this was not our
[38:14]
expectation this evening.
[38:15]
We did fully originally expect
[38:19]
to be discussing the schematics
[38:25]
before upcoming events in
[38:25]
APRIL.
[38:27]
It is a very big decision and
[38:34]
one that we know that our staff
[38:35]
and architect are working
[38:36]
diligently to be responsive to
[38:37]
the board direction that has
[38:39]
been heard.
[38:40]
That being that the police
[38:47]
station has been said many
[38:49]
times to be the priority of the
[38:49]
project.
[38:50]
That there has been great
[38:51]
concern, particularly in the
[38:52]
last meeting about cost.
[38:53]
Want to make sure that
[38:54]
everybody is in agreement so
[38:57]
I'm not speaking out of turn
[39:04]
and that there is potentially
[39:06]
wanting to understand with
[39:08]
potentially phasing in
[39:10]
rehabilitation of village hall
[39:13]
with the ultimate goal that we
[39:17]
have a facility that meets the
[39:19]
needs of our staff and is
[39:22]
accessible to our community.
[39:24]
That it be that long term
[39:30]
solution that is not making our
[39:34]
community pay more over time
[39:41]
that the analysis of a
[39:42]
strategic funding-financial
[39:43]
analysis of how we would pay
[39:44]
for whatever the decision of
[39:48]
the board would be.
[39:49]
Knowing that majority of the
[39:52]
cost is the police department
[39:54]
and numbers we have heard in
[39:57]
the past being anywhere around
[39:58]
$80 million, but then the
[40:01]
potential rehabilitation and
[40:02]
maintenance that we have
[40:10]
learned is, you know, mother 20
[40:11]
million-40 million.
[40:14]
What we know and appreciate is
[40:17]
that while tis extra time is
[40:23]
not what we plan for, it is the
[40:26]
best and most responsible way
[40:28]
to move forward so we have all
[40:33]
the information that we need to
[40:34]
make the decision for the
[40:35]
community and that the
[40:39]
community deserves to hear from
[40:40]
the seven people that have been
[40:41]
working on the project over the
[40:52]
last year and 1/2.
[40:53]
If there are no further
[41:00]
comments, then we do think you
[41:01]
and we know that you are
[41:02]
working hard to be responsive
[41:03]
to all the concerns you have
[41:05]
heard from the village board to
[41:07]
help us with a very big
[41:09]
decision.
[41:10]
Okay?
[41:16]
Thank you.
[41:21]
>>village manager: I will just
[41:22]
make one-you bet.
[41:24]
I'm excited to do it.
[41:28]
I want to say welcome and happy
[41:29]
birthday to its old martinez,
[41:36]
who is a senior in high school
[41:40]
at the cornerstone academy here
[41:46]
in oak park.
[41:47]
She is the next to her teacher.
[41:48]
Itzel was going to attend the
[41:49]
meeting to watch us to business
[41:50]
for a little while now and I'm
[41:53]
excited about the fact that she
[41:54]
e chose her birthday to
[41:57]
exercise her civic interest.
[41:58]
She is very involved in it
[42:00]
civic throughout the community
[42:01]
and I know she has taken a
[42:05]
strong interest in oak park and
[42:06]
her teacher is excited about
[42:14]
the work she is doing in
[42:14]
school.
[42:16]
I was excited to introduce her
[42:16]
tonight.
[42:17]
Welcome, itzel.
[42:18]
Glad you could make it and I am
[42:20]
sure you probably anticipated a
[42:23]
longer meeting tonight.
[42:25]
Congratulations for exercising
[42:26]
your civic interest and thank
[42:31]
you for letting me acknowledge
[42:32]
itzel tonight.
[42:33]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: welcome,
[42:34]
you don't have to, but you can
[42:46]
come up and say hello.
[42:47]
Up to you.
[42:48]
>>speaker: good evening, my
[42:49]
name is itzel martinez, to
[42:50]
share a little more about me,
[42:51]
I'm a senior at cornerstone
[42:52]
academy.
[42:53]
It's a small private christian
[42:54]
school that is almost like an
[42:55]
alternative school.
[42:58]
They focus on individual needs
[42:58]
of students.
[42:59]
Walking into cornerstone I
[43:00]
realized the lack of mental
[43:01]
health resources and where I
[43:03]
came from, my previous goals,
[43:04]
they lack the resources, too.
[43:06]
In that way I found a need and
[43:12]
they spark in a drive to do
[43:13]
more.
[43:13]
What I've been doing at my
[43:14]
school as I have been reaching
[43:15]
out to mental health resources
[43:17]
and building connections with
[43:18]
organizations and trying to do
[43:19]
more, find more because I see
[43:20]
it here and it needs to be seen
[43:22]
and I did not realize how
[43:23]
important it was for youth to
[43:24]
be a part of that.
[43:28]
I have been going to places and
[43:29]
voicing the needs and the
[43:30]
things we need and people see
[43:31]
it and they want to hear more.
[43:35]
My way I want to get the
[43:37]
attention o more youth because
[43:38]
I think we are out there and I
[43:46]
think this is really cool.
[43:47]
Thank you.
[43:48]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: clerk
[43:51]
waters is glowing.
[43:52]
I hope you will share your
[43:52]
contact info so she can reach
[43:57]
out and help coordinate these
[43:58]
efforts.
[44:01]
And thank you so much for being
[44:02]
here.
[44:02]
I can feel your power, you are
[44:03]
truly amazing.
[44:04]
Thank you.
[44:05]
>>trustee wesley: happy
[44:07]
birthday.
[44:08]
>> happy birthday.
[44:09]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: happy
[44:13]
birthday!
[44:18]
Aything else from the village
[44:18]
managers report?
[44:19]
Of course, of course.
[44:25]
Village board committees and
[44:26]
the trustee liaison commission
[44:26]
report.
[44:27]
Any updates?
[44:27]
Okay.
[44:28]
Citizen commission vacancies.
[44:38]
Clerk waters, thank you, again!
[44:39]
Clerk waters provides the
[44:40]
vacancy report and anybody
[44:41]
interested in serving on one of
[44:42]
the boards or commissions can
[44:44]
reach out to clerk waters at
[44:45]
clerk@oak-park.Us.
[44:50]
We then have a few
[44:51]
appointments.
[44:52]
I entertain a motion to consent
[44:53]
to the village presidents
[44:55]
plemons of, clerk waters, do
[44:55]
you mind?
[45:04]
>>clerk: sorry, I have too many
[45:12]
papers in front of me.
[45:14]
Charyl a. Wisniewski, to the
[45:17]
community relations commission.
[45:22]
Rachel l. Gresk, appointed as a
[45:25]
commissioner to the community
[45:31]
relations cmmission.
[45:32]
Steve nations, point is a
[45:33]
commissioner to the environment
[45:34]
and energy commission.
[45:38]
>>jonathan burch:, appointed as
[45:39]
a commissioner to the
[45:42]
environment and energy
[45:42]
commission.
[45:47]
>> frank sullivan, reappoint
[45:51]
for a second term to the plan
[45:51]
commission.
[45:53]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
[45:56]
favor?
[46:01]
yes, please.
[46:01]
Motion, please?
[46:02]
>> so moved.
[46:03]
>> second.
[46:04]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: motioned by
[46:08]
trustee enyia and send dead by
[46:09]
trustee wesley.
[46:09]
Now and all in favor?
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>> aye.
[46:12]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: a thank you
[46:13]
and thank all of our
[46:16]
commissioners for their service
[46:20]
.
[46:22]
And I would entertain a motion
[46:23]
to approve the consent agenda
[46:23]
as presented.
[46:26]
>> so moved.
[46:26]
>> second.
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>>PRESIDENT Scaman: clerk
[46:29]
waters, please take the roll.
[46:46]
>> I think that was trustee
[46:47]
robinson-brian?
[46:48]
And then trustee straw is the
[46:48]
second.
[46:49]
>> trustee robinson.
[46:49]
>> yes.
[46:50]
>> trustee straw.
[46:51]
>> yes.
[46:51]
>> tustee enyia.
[46:52]
>> yes.
[46:53]
>> trustee parakkat.
[46:53]
>> yes.
[46:54]
>> trustee wsley.
[46:55]
>> yes.
[46:56]
>> PRESIDENT Scaman.
[46:57]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: yes.
[46:58]
Consent agenda has been
[46:59]
approved.
[46:59]
We have a motion by trustee
[47:02]
parakkat and seconded rustee
[47:03]
robinson to discuss current
[47:04]
village regulations on mobile
[47:05]
food vendors and potential
[47:06]
amendments to regulations to
[47:09]
the village board to consider.
[47:09]
Motion, please?
[47:10]
>> so moved.
[47:11]
>> second.
[47:17]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[47:18]
This is a discussion only.
[47:19]
there is nothing to vote on,
[47:20]
but I appreciate the motion
[47:24]
from a trustee parakkat and
[47:25]
trustee robinson.
[47:26]
That was my fault for confusing
[47:26]
the matter.
[47:30]
I will turn over to trustee
[47:30]
parakkat then?
[47:32]
>>trustee parakkat: thank you.
[47:34]
The reason we are having this
[47:40]
discussion is in our village,
[47:41]
we have well-established
[47:43]
brick-and-mortar businesses and
[47:44]
their businesses are sometimes
[47:45]
affected when we have food
[47:47]
trucks that come and park right
[47:54]
next to them, selling similar
[47:56]
types of food and undercutting
[47:57]
the cost because they have
[47:58]
slightly different cost
[47:58]
structure.
[47:59]
In fact, the cost structure is
[48:04]
much lower than what we have
[48:05]
for our brick-and-mortar
[48:06]
businesses that pay into the
[48:07]
taxes.
[48:11]
They have payroll and a lot of
[48:12]
other costs.
[48:12]
This is just to see if we can
[48:15]
create a level of fairness in
[48:16]
terms of our business
[48:22]
environment so nobody is
[48:23]
disproportionately affected by
[48:24]
having a differentiated cost
[48:25]
structure or a favorable cost
[48:25]
structure.
[48:26]
Looking at more of a level
[48:27]
playing field.
[48:31]
That is the intent of this
[48:38]
discussion and in examination
[48:39]
what we received through the
[48:40]
staff from that research is
[48:41]
there are differences in
[48:50]
different communities and how
[48:51]
this is handled and there are
[48:51]
recommendations as well.
[48:53]
The discussion is about looking
[48:54]
at the recommendations and
[48:55]
figuring out what makes sense
[48:56]
for our community and what can
[48:57]
be fomented to create that
[48:58]
level playing field.
[49:00]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[49:01]
We have a public comment on
[49:04]
this item this evening.
[49:11]
>> (Speaker away from mic).
[49:19]
>>public commenter: hi.
[49:20]
My name is carla (Name?) And I
[49:22]
have been a proud resident of
[49:23]
oak park for over 20 years as a
[49:28]
latina woman and business
[49:28]
owner.
[49:30]
I deeply value the cultural
[49:31]
entrepreneurial spirit that
[49:35]
makes our community a vibrant
[49:36]
one.
[49:36]
My investment in oak park
[49:37]
extends beyond my business.
[49:38]
I actively support schools,
[49:43]
literally, the arts and the
[49:44]
several non-for-profit
[49:45]
organizations and additionally
[49:46]
I'm committed to employing
[49:47]
local residents and students
[49:48]
who rely on these jobs for
[49:52]
growth and financial stability.
[49:54]
I appreciate and fully support
[50:05]
the recommendations that I have
[50:06]
been discussing with the
[50:07]
business office in oak park as
[50:08]
it reflects the village's
[50:09]
commitment to balancing
[50:10]
economic growth, while
[50:11]
protecting businesses that have
[50:12]
long been a part of oak park's
[50:17]
economic and cultural fabric.
[50:18]
While I welcome a business,
[50:19]
while I welcome food trucks and
[50:20]
the diversity they bring, our
[50:22]
brick-and-mortar businesses are
[50:23]
the backbone of our local
[50:23]
economy.
[50:32]
And we operate under higher
[50:32]
standards.
[50:33]
I believe these recommendations
[50:34]
help maintain a fair playing
[50:35]
field and acknowledge the
[50:36]
significant and financial
[50:37]
personal investments we have
[50:38]
made in oak park through
[50:39]
contributing, creating jobs,
[50:41]
paying rent, paying property
[50:48]
taxes.
[50:49]
The recommendations that is
[50:51]
poposed as a 250 foot distance
[50:52]
requirement from existing food
[50:58]
and beverage establishments.
[50:59]
That ensures food trucks
[51:00]
complement instead of directly
[51:01]
compete with the local
[51:01]
businesses.
[51:03]
Fr the past few months I have
[51:04]
had a food truck operating
[51:05]
directly in front of me and
[51:08]
then he moved 100 feet down.
[51:09]
From my shop selling the same
[51:11]
food daily from 10:00 A.M.-8
[51:11]
pm.
[51:12]
They are mobile, they are not
[51:13]
moving.
[51:19]
10 hours a day.
[51:20]
When I kindly asked the owner
[51:21]
to move further down, he
[51:22]
refused, citing that the
[51:23]
village currently has no
[51:24]
restrictions or ordinances.
[51:26]
That lack of regulation puts
[51:30]
brick-and-mortar at a this
[51:30]
advantage.
[51:31]
The other recommendation is
[51:32]
designating specific areas for
[51:34]
food trucks to operate.
[51:35]
That brings structure,
[51:41]
organization, fairness and
[51:42]
helps prevent tradition while
[51:43]
allowing food trucks to operate
[51:44]
successfully without negatively
[51:45]
impacting existing businesses.
[51:46]
Additionally, restricting food
[51:50]
trucks in key business
[51:51]
districts, such as madison
[52:01]
street or other corridor's
[52:02]
helps preserve the vitality of
[52:04]
our commercial corridors,
[52:05]
ensuring that long-standing
[52:06]
businesses that contribute to
[52:07]
oak park's character and charm
[52:07]
continue to thrive.
[52:09]
So I urge the village, as other
[52:10]
towns have to support the
[52:11]
well-thought-out
[52:12]
recommendations to foster a
[52:14]
thriving, fair and sustainable
[52:21]
business environment for all.
[52:23]
I appreciate the board's
[52:24]
efforts in promoting both
[52:25]
innovation and stability in our
[52:26]
community, and to thank you for
[52:27]
your time and consideration.
[52:31]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[52:33]
So then we will open it up for
[52:34]
discussion unless you have more
[52:38]
to share?
[52:39]
Or greg does?
[52:40]
>>village manager: yeah, I will
[52:49]
go ahead, craig, as craig is
[52:49]
coming up.
[52:50]
We are trying to be responsive
[52:51]
to the motion.
[52:52]
As well as being responsive to
[52:53]
the community input we received
[52:54]
concurrent with the motion.
[52:54]
What we hve done is
[53:00]
preliminary work to frame the
[53:00]
discussion.
[53:01]
There ae some preliminary
[53:02]
options outlined, but what we
[53:03]
are looking for is feedback
[53:04]
from the board so we can bring
[53:05]
something back, that is
[53:11]
responsive of the entire
[53:11]
board's interest.
[53:13]
Tonight we can certainly offer
[53:14]
what we found so far, but we
[53:16]
are looking forward to getting
[53:17]
your input so we get the
[53:18]
ordinance proposal back at a
[53:18]
later time.
[53:22]
>> thank you, manager jackson,
[53:23]
craig failor, deponent services
[53:23]
director.
[53:28]
We have been working on a
[53:31]
things to think about in
[53:39]
regards to food tracks.
[53:40]
Nomi diaz will walk through
[53:41]
that.
[53:41]
We have also been talking to
[53:42]
the health the permit on this
[53:43]
as well.
[53:44]
We have reached out to other
[53:45]
persons in our department and
[53:47]
other departments o help us
[53:49]
formulate these ideas and I
[53:51]
think k nomi will indicate that
[54:02]
she has looked at other
[54:02]
communities.
[54:03]
>> thank you, craig.
[54:12]
Good evening, nomi diaz,
[54:13]
administered of officer in a
[54:13]
development services.
[54:15]
We did rsearch on neighboring
[54:16]
communities that is attached to
[54:17]
the agenda item, estimated
[54:19]
about 18 different communities
[54:24]
and what their current
[54:26]
regulations are for any mobile
[54:26]
food truck vendors.
[54:28]
Looking at an analysis of that
[54:30]
and some history of what the
[54:31]
village currently has.
[54:33]
Currently, the requirements for
[54:34]
any mobile food truck vendors
[54:39]
is that they have to-they
[54:40]
have to have a health
[54:42]
inspection conducted by our
[54:46]
department of health.
[54:47]
They also have to be compliant
[54:49]
with ay parking restrictions
[55:01]
and not obstructing any
[55:02]
right-of-way.
[55:03]
Have to have an active business
[55:04]
license and the cost of the
[55:05]
business license is dependent
[55:06]
on the number of inspections
[55:07]
that the food truck has to get
[55:09]
on an annual basis and that is
[55:10]
determined by our health
[55:18]
department based on what the
[55:19]
food risks are.
[55:20]
That is currently what we have
[55:20]
in place.
[55:21]
Looking at the communities we
[55:22]
researched, we made three
[55:24]
potential recommendations for
[55:27]
the board to consider.
[55:28]
The first one being mobile food
[55:30]
vendors must operate at least
[55:35]
250 feet and any food and drink
[55:35]
establishment.
[55:36]
To give a little bit of a
[55:42]
visual of what 250 feet looks
[55:42]
like.
[55:48]
The scope of how long the
[55:49]
village campus is currently.
[55:50]
Clearly outside a village hall
[55:54]
sidewalk to sidewalk is about
[55:54]
250 feet.
[55:55]
Currently our commercial blocks
[55:57]
are about 400 feet.
[56:03]
Just to give a little bit of
[56:04]
perspective of what that looks
[56:04]
like.
[56:09]
That is one recommendation for
[56:10]
the board to consider in the
[56:11]
second is mobile food vendors
[56:12]
are allowed to operate in
[56:13]
designated areas in the village
[56:14]
this is previously been
[56:17]
explored by village staff.
[56:19]
A couple about eight years ago
[56:20]
in terms of setting direct
[56:22]
areas where mobile food trucks
[56:24]
can park their vehicle and the
[56:29]
cell and it creates a different
[56:31]
commercial corridor for mobile
[56:33]
food vendors and 1/3 potential
[56:41]
regulation is mobile food
[56:42]
vendors are not able to operate
[56:43]
in a business district.
[56:44]
Currently the village
[56:45]
recognizes 12 different
[56:46]
districts throughout oak park.
[56:48]
Ultimately that would limit as
[56:48]
to where they would be able to
[56:51]
park in the sell their goods,
[56:54]
but those are the three
[56:55]
different that we have come up
[56:59]
with in terms of
[57:00]
recommendations for the board
[57:01]
to consider.
[57:03]
Village staff supports any of
[57:06]
the three that the board would
[57:06]
like to pursue.
[57:11]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[57:12]
Please go ahead.
[57:14]
>>trustee parakkat: just a
[57:21]
quick question on
[57:22]
applicability.
[57:23]
If there are events, special
[57:24]
events that happen, is this
[57:25]
applicable in those instances
[57:33]
as well or is this non-event
[57:33]
related regulation?
[57:35]
>> this is not event related
[57:36]
read any mobile food vendor
[57:37]
that would like to participate
[57:38]
at any of our special events or
[57:39]
events throughout the village,
[57:40]
they have to go through a
[57:42]
different special event
[57:43]
permitting process.
[57:44]
>>trustee parakkat: that is
[57:44]
separate.
[57:45]
That is true for block parties
[57:50]
and smaller events as well?
[57:50]
Okay, thanks.
[57:52]
>>trustee robinson: I want to
[57:53]
clarify-let's say we adopt
[57:56]
all three of the
[57:57]
recommendations.
[58:04]
Even if it takes place in a
[58:05]
business district, as long as
[58:07]
they go through whatever this
[58:08]
separate permitting process is,
[58:09]
they would be able to set up
[58:10]
their food truck for a special
[58:14]
event, even if it is in a
[58:14]
business district?
[58:15]
If that is regulated based on
[58:26]
the staff's recommendations,
[58:26]
correct?
[58:27]
>>speaker: correct.
[58:28]
>>trustee robinson: in
[58:29]
addition, I'm in agreement with
[58:30]
what trustee parakkat said and
[58:31]
the public comment her as well.
[58:32]
I just want to point out the
[58:33]
public comment or sent us what
[58:36]
I thought was just a really
[58:37]
detailed email that we received
[58:38]
a b a week ago, maybe a week
[58:39]
and 1/2 ago, something like
[58:39]
that.
[58:43]
But I thought did-really
[58:44]
echoed what she said tonight,
[58:46]
but did a great job of
[58:50]
explaining sort of the
[58:51]
difficulty and that this unfair
[58:52]
competition point.
[58:55]
How brick-and-mortar stores-
[58:59]
food trucks can sort of pop up
[59:00]
without warning, out of nowhere
[59:02]
and to be parked outside of
[59:03]
their establishment for really
[59:06]
any length of time, as long as
[59:06]
they comply currently with
[59:10]
parking and the health
[59:10]
inspection.
[59:11]
That adds a level of
[59:12]
competition that does not
[59:15]
really exist right now for
[59:17]
other businesses.
[59:18]
While I certainly am in favor
[59:21]
of a free market, I think we
[59:22]
regulate our business districts
[59:29]
and we do so for specific
[59:30]
reasons.
[59:30]
Safety, health.
[59:32]
But this idea of really trying
[59:33]
to not compromise the integrity
[59:34]
of our business districts and
[59:36]
our brick-and-mortar stores is
[59:39]
a way that this type of
[59:40]
regulation can help further
[59:43]
preserve the integrity of those
[59:43]
districts.
[59:45]
The only thing I wanted staff
[59:49]
to opine on his I noticed in
[59:52]
the oak one regulation it
[59:54]
included a requirement that
[59:57]
food trucks have a plan for
[59:57]
waste disposal.
[1:00:00]
I was curious what staff
[1:00:00]
thought about that.
[1:00:04]
You know, we have areas of oak
[1:00:10]
park that certainly have
[1:00:11]
oversized trash cans, but I
[1:00:12]
assume those are based on the
[1:00:13]
number of brick and mortar
[1:00:16]
establishments that are already
[1:00:17]
there?
[1:00:18]
So what does staff think about
[1:00:21]
adding a plan for waste
[1:00:22]
disposal, especially as we
[1:00:25]
consistently try to fight
[1:00:29]
against sort of the
[1:00:30]
proliferation of rats?
[1:00:34]
We do not want food, other
[1:00:35]
types of food, of disposal to
[1:00:36]
be outside of garbage cans.
[1:00:42]
do you foresee any problems or
[1:00:43]
maybe what do you think about
[1:00:44]
incorporating that and of
[1:00:49]
folding that into whatever our
[1:00:49]
regulatory structure is?
[1:00:50]
>> absolutely.
[1:00:51]
I will start off by saying that
[1:00:53]
we have not had any issues in
[1:00:54]
terms of a waste disposal of
[1:00:58]
any of the current active
[1:00:59]
license that we have for mobile
[1:01:02]
food vendors, however, we would
[1:01:03]
definitely explore
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incorporating that into the
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regulations if that is
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something the board desires.
[1:01:07]
>>trustee robinson: based on
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your research, what I was
[1:01:11]
reading referred to special
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disposal methods or certain
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types of food waste.
[1:01:18]
Like greece for example.
[1:01:20]
What are your thoughts about
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incorporating that specifically
[1:01:29]
so we sort of award off and
[1:01:30]
prevent any disposal method
[1:01:31]
that could create a bigger
[1:01:32]
problem or a bigger mess for
[1:01:36]
public works, for surrounding
[1:01:37]
businesses, etc.?
[1:01:38]
Absolutely.
[1:01:39]
I definitely explore that with
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te health department and the
[1:01:41]
health inspectors and making
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sure we are addressing proper
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and safe waste disposal.
[1:01:52]
>>trustee robinson: okay, okay.
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So we deal with it in
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designated areas, but not
[1:01:55]
business districts, are we
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saying they can be set up
[1:02:03]
throughout our residential
[1:02:03]
districts?
[1:02:05]
>> more or less.
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Essentially, not all of lake
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street is a business district.
[1:02:08]
So there would be certain areas
[1:02:15]
and our intent would be if that
[1:02:17]
is not potential regulation of
[1:02:18]
the village board as to pursue,
[1:02:19]
we would come back with a map
[1:02:20]
that highlighted the areas that
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would be appropriate for mobile
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food truck vendors.
[1:02:29]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: that sounds
[1:02:29]
good to me.
[1:02:30]
I am certainly on board with
[1:02:31]
the three regulations.
[1:02:32]
The only other thing I will
[1:02:35]
point out is that in the
[1:02:35]
board's future our summit
[1:02:36]
zoning discussion, including
[1:02:39]
the possibility of creating
[1:02:42]
residential housing in the
[1:02:44]
commercial districts, maybe in
[1:02:44]
an expanded capacity.
[1:02:47]
So I would just want any-
[1:02:48]
anything that staff comes back
[1:02:52]
with to have that in the back
[1:02:57]
of your mind as we sort of have
[1:02:58]
these conversations
[1:02:59]
sequentially to make sure we
[1:02:59]
are not stepping over ourselves
[1:03:04]
as we figure this stuff out.
[1:03:05]
I thought the recommendations
[1:03:07]
were great and I would like to
[1:03:15]
include a plan for waste
[1:03:15]
disposal.
[1:03:16]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: please,
[1:03:17]
brian.
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I'm sorry.
[1:03:27]
>>trustee straw: I think first,
[1:03:32]
starting with the third
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recommendation.
[1:03:39]
I'm not entirely sure I
[1:03:40]
understand the idea behind a
[1:03:41]
recommendation that mobile food
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vendors are not able to operate
[1:03:47]
in any business district
[1:03:49]
because that would-that would
[1:03:50]
mean that we would only be
[1:03:53]
allowing mobile food vendors to
[1:03:57]
operate in our residential
[1:03:59]
neighborhoods, which when I was
[1:04:06]
looking through the comparable
[1:04:07]
-the other communities, most
[1:04:10]
of those had regulations
[1:04:16]
limiting mobile food vendors,
[1:04:17]
food trucks from parking in
[1:04:19]
residential areas and selling
[1:04:26]
in residential areas.
[1:04:27]
I understand businesses wanting
[1:04:28]
to limit the risks of
[1:04:33]
competition, but why would such
[1:04:34]
a broad-based approach of
[1:04:35]
preventing all sales and
[1:04:36]
business districts be the
[1:04:38]
direction we want to go.
[1:04:40]
>> our intent was to kind of
[1:04:41]
encourage mobile food vendors
[1:04:44]
to go to chools, parks and
[1:04:50]
really go into untouched
[1:04:51]
territories, where
[1:04:52]
brick-and-mortar businesses are
[1:04:56]
unable to capture those.
[1:05:01]
>>trustee straw: okay.
[1:05:07]
I guess I-that is something I
[1:05:09]
would need to give a little
[1:05:09]
more thought to.
[1:05:14]
I guess I have some concern
[1:05:17]
about setting up secondary
[1:05:18]
business districts if we had a
[1:05:26]
situation where now we have a
[1:05:27]
food truck row on a residential
[1:05:28]
street and we are diverting
[1:05:30]
traffic to a food truck row.
[1:05:33]
Typically there is a reason we
[1:05:35]
concentrate business activity
[1:05:35]
in business districts.
[1:05:40]
I think it makes sense to have
[1:05:41]
food truck vendors are going to
[1:05:46]
want to go where there is foot
[1:05:51]
traffic as well.
[1:05:52]
I think that-I do not think
[1:05:53]
that right now I would be in
[1:05:55]
favor of the third
[1:05:55]
recommendation.
[1:05:59]
I don't necessarily want to be
[1:06:03]
pushing food truck vendors to
[1:06:07]
be in residential neighborhoods
[1:06:13]
as opposed to in our business
[1:06:13]
districts.
[1:06:19]
I think it would be helpful
[1:06:23]
when we get any specific
[1:06:24]
ordinance back around number
[1:06:30]
one to see what a map would
[1:06:40]
look like with, you know, if we
[1:06:41]
did a 250 foot bubble around
[1:06:42]
any drink establishment, are we
[1:06:47]
saying that food truck vendors
[1:06:50]
cannot be in these swaths of
[1:06:55]
the village because a 250 foot
[1:07:00]
bubble-I imagine that blocks
[1:07:01]
off most of downtown oak park,
[1:07:07]
most of the hemingway business
[1:07:07]
district.
[1:07:11]
So I'm curious whether there's
[1:07:15]
any way to have it be a
[1:07:17]
limitation where you have
[1:07:17]
direct competition.
[1:07:21]
I know the situation that
[1:07:25]
brought us here tonight on this
[1:07:28]
discussion was a food truck
[1:07:34]
selling tacos immediately
[1:07:35]
adjacent to a brick-and-mortar
[1:07:36]
store that sells tacos and I
[1:07:42]
understand how that is unfair,
[1:07:43]
but I think if there was a food
[1:07:45]
truck that sold ice cream that
[1:07:49]
parked right next to a store
[1:07:52]
selling tacos, that might not
[1:07:53]
be a problem.
[1:07:55]
In fact, it might be a bonus to
[1:07:55]
business.
[1:07:59]
And drive more foot traffic.
[1:08:04]
I think if there is a way for
[1:08:05]
us to be creative so we can
[1:08:08]
prevent some of the direct
[1:08:13]
competition, but not prevent
[1:08:15]
entrepreneurs who are just
[1:08:19]
trying to start a business from
[1:08:23]
chasing those dreams in our
[1:08:24]
community, I think there is a
[1:08:27]
balance to be found because I
[1:08:30]
know there are a lot of those
[1:08:34]
brick-and-mortar restaurants,
[1:08:35]
where people were able to make
[1:08:37]
those brick-and-mortar
[1:08:39]
restaurant dreams come true
[1:08:42]
because they started with a
[1:08:43]
food truck with the lower
[1:08:44]
overhead.
[1:08:48]
I want to find-I want to make
[1:08:50]
sure we are finding a balance
[1:08:54]
with the lightest touch
[1:08:59]
possible on regulation that
[1:09:01]
protects the vital small
[1:09:04]
business community that we have
[1:09:09]
that has made these
[1:09:10]
brick-and-mortar investments
[1:09:11]
who is employing our next
[1:09:18]
generation of entrepreneurs in
[1:09:18]
our community.
[1:09:19]
I think that is vital, but I do
[1:09:21]
not want to drive investment in
[1:09:22]
food trucks out of our
[1:09:23]
community and I think if we
[1:09:26]
take too heavy a hand that we
[1:09:39]
might go too far.
[1:09:39]
Thank you.
[1:09:41]
>>trustee enyia: this is a
[1:09:42]
random question, but our ice
[1:09:43]
cream trucks considered food
[1:09:44]
tricks, too?
[1:09:49]
>> yes they are.
[1:09:49]
Very conflicting.
[1:09:56]
>> they are.
[1:09:57]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: if nobody
[1:10:01]
is jumping forward, somewhat
[1:10:05]
similar to brian's concern, I
[1:10:06]
definitely agree that-to have
[1:10:09]
a food truck in front of a
[1:10:10]
brick-and-mortar with the
[1:10:11]
expense and commitment that is
[1:10:14]
also serving the same food, it
[1:10:20]
should certainly not be okay
[1:10:21]
and permitted grade what im
[1:10:22]
curious about is the beer shop.
[1:10:26]
It is in a business district
[1:10:30]
and we have encouraged them to
[1:10:31]
seek out relationships because
[1:10:32]
they do not serve food and we
[1:10:37]
do not otherwise have bars in
[1:10:41]
our community that do not serve
[1:10:42]
food.
[1:10:43]
I remember when we give them
[1:10:44]
their liquor license initially
[1:10:45]
we encouraged them to build
[1:10:46]
relationships with neighboring
[1:10:51]
restaurants and food trucks.
[1:10:52]
How does it work in that lot?
[1:11:02]
How would tat lot be affected
[1:11:02]
by this ordinance?
[1:11:05]
We built that lot out recently
[1:11:12]
to be kind of an event space or
[1:11:13]
turn into an event space.
[1:11:16]
I like the idea of the beer
[1:11:20]
shop being able to invite food
[1:11:21]
trucks, particularly in the
[1:11:22]
summertime.
[1:11:24]
is there something we can do to
[1:11:25]
carve out that law or other
[1:11:28]
areas in the community where
[1:11:30]
the addition of a food trucks
[1:11:31]
is actually contributing to
[1:11:40]
vitality in a not as
[1:11:41]
competitive way to local
[1:11:42]
businesses?
[1:11:43]
Could it be something about the
[1:11:44]
type of food or could they get
[1:11:45]
a certain number of times a
[1:11:46]
month that they could?
[1:11:46]
I don't know.
[1:11:50]
Can we try to consider some
[1:11:57]
options for us I don't know,
[1:11:58]
what you think?
[1:11:58]
>> absolutely.
[1:12:00]
That is something we can
[1:12:00]
explore in this next month
[1:12:02]
while we prepare something to
[1:12:03]
come back to the board.
[1:12:04]
We explore the potential of
[1:12:12]
either excluding certain lots
[1:12:13]
that are (Word?) During periods
[1:12:14]
of time like summertime,
[1:12:15]
assuming the food truck vendor
[1:12:18]
does not sell the same or
[1:12:19]
similar type of menu as the
[1:12:21]
neighboring restaurants in the
[1:12:21]
area.
[1:12:25]
And we can also export
[1:12:26]
different event types, permits
[1:12:27]
and what that would look like.
[1:12:31]
We need to do more research.
[1:12:32]
>> some of our food trucks are
[1:12:36]
also brick-and-mortar
[1:12:37]
restaurants.
[1:12:37]
So they are making the same
[1:12:39]
level of commitment in another
[1:12:43]
way, the same way, but the
[1:12:47]
mobile truck is an extension of
[1:12:49]
the brick-and-mortar business.
[1:12:52]
That is the thought-the only
[1:13:00]
thought that I have concern
[1:13:00]
with here.
[1:13:02]
>>trustee wesley: I agree with
[1:13:04]
you on that.
[1:13:05]
I think on the lot tenant
[1:13:06]
thing, couldn't we sell food
[1:13:11]
truck spots in that lot and
[1:13:12]
that extra cost would make it a
[1:13:13]
bit more commiserate with the
[1:13:14]
investment of the surrounding
[1:13:15]
businesses and therefore seems
[1:13:16]
like it might put at least in
[1:13:21]
that one space, things on a bit
[1:13:22]
more even competition?
[1:13:23]
But in general, I agree with
[1:13:27]
some sort of space around
[1:13:28]
brick-and-mortar restaurants
[1:13:32]
that should be food truck free.
[1:13:35]
Chicago went through this a few
[1:13:36]
years ago.
[1:13:37]
Might be 10 years or 11 or
[1:13:38]
something like that.
[1:13:40]
It was a whole big thing and I
[1:13:42]
knew a few restaurant owners at
[1:13:44]
the time that were being
[1:13:49]
impacted by this in the river
[1:13:51]
north area and it would like-
[1:13:51]
I don't remember the figures.
[1:13:56]
I remember that the difference
[1:13:57]
between their lunch take on a
[1:13:59]
day when the food truck was
[1:14:01]
there versus in a food truck
[1:14:01]
wasn't was significant.
[1:14:06]
So I do think that this is a
[1:14:07]
worthwhile ordinance to
[1:14:10]
consider, at least with some
[1:14:14]
level of fee, away from the
[1:14:15]
brick-and-mortar businesses.
[1:14:20]
Two trustee straw's point about
[1:14:21]
concentrating business activity
[1:14:22]
and business districts I'm
[1:14:23]
never going to MISS The chance
[1:14:24]
to talk about zoning and I will
[1:14:27]
point out that before exclusive
[1:14:31]
single-family home zoning,
[1:14:32]
residents intermingled and
[1:14:34]
economic activity was part of
[1:14:35]
life and not a part that was
[1:14:42]
separate.
[1:14:43]
Exclusion-exclusionary
[1:14:44]
zoning, we have places where we
[1:14:45]
put businesses in places where
[1:14:47]
we put people MAY think what we
[1:14:49]
have noticed is when we put
[1:14:50]
people where the businesses
[1:14:51]
are, like in dtop we get a lot
[1:14:51]
of vibrancy.
[1:14:54]
a psalm in support of
[1:14:55]
intermingling people in
[1:14:56]
businesses and any chance we
[1:14:57]
can get, including with food
[1:15:01]
trucks.
[1:15:05]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: trustee
[1:15:06]
enyia?
[1:15:07]
>>trustee enyia: I agree with
[1:15:14]
what PRESIDENT Scaman was
[1:15:15]
saying, they have chips, the
[1:15:16]
beer shop has a chips.
[1:15:17]
Part of the stipulation.
[1:15:24]
I do agree that knowing,
[1:15:25]
working downtown for a long
[1:15:26]
time, understanding that there
[1:15:27]
are some opportunities that are
[1:15:30]
missed from brick-and-mortar
[1:15:31]
because-mainly it is
[1:15:32]
distance, but there is also the
[1:15:43]
level of convenience that
[1:15:44]
sometimes the food truck gives
[1:15:45]
you for special events.
[1:15:46]
I think that makes perfect
[1:15:47]
sense and in the summertime it
[1:15:48]
is one of those opportunities
[1:15:49]
for a place like the beer shop
[1:15:51]
and other places that do not
[1:15:52]
serve technically full-service
[1:15:54]
food and they did try other
[1:15:55]
options, but I know their most
[1:15:56]
profitable option was the food
[1:15:57]
truck.
[1:15:59]
They did try having a delivery
[1:16:00]
service with japanese
[1:16:06]
restaurant that is very nearby
[1:16:07]
and they tried to do a delivery
[1:16:08]
to the beer shop, but it did
[1:16:14]
not hit off as far as as well
[1:16:15]
as having a food truck there.
[1:16:16]
I think there should be
[1:16:16]
consideration to that, but I
[1:16:18]
completely understand parking
[1:16:20]
in front of a location-it is
[1:16:21]
not fair to the business owner
[1:16:23]
of the brick-and-mortar
[1:16:24]
location, but I think there
[1:16:28]
should be some type of
[1:16:28]
designated spot if that is
[1:16:36]
something that the board has an
[1:16:37]
appetite for going further down
[1:16:38]
research, but also I think as
[1:16:39]
you said before, it does lend
[1:16:53]
some new opportunity to talk
[1:16:54]
about where in the village
[1:16:55]
would it make sense for a food
[1:16:56]
truck to operate that is nt as
[1:16:57]
close everything?
[1:16:58]
I know there are parts of oak
[1:16:59]
park that are pretty much
[1:17:00]
untapped and we talked about
[1:17:01]
north oak park where I grew up,
[1:17:02]
there are not many options.
[1:17:03]
Is there something that can be
[1:17:04]
set up so they can re-envision
[1:17:07]
what that could be in other
[1:17:08]
areas of oak park that would
[1:17:11]
never otherwise see an
[1:17:14]
opportunity to seize food.
[1:17:15]
Bring up the ice cream truck
[1:17:19]
thing because I know in so many
[1:17:20]
situations, as a kid, after
[1:17:21]
table games and all of those
[1:17:25]
things, you think about, what
[1:17:26]
is the first thing that is
[1:17:27]
going to show up here?
[1:17:28]
I would hate to think that
[1:17:31]
because of certain distance
[1:17:32]
rule, that you would ice out
[1:17:33]
the ice cream truck.
[1:17:36]
Those are just things, but I
[1:17:41]
definitely agree with the owner
[1:17:43]
of-I believe it is taco 76
[1:17:46]
that had to deal with that.
[1:17:47]
That is undercutting her
[1:17:51]
business and that is not what
[1:17:52]
we would want to see happening
[1:17:56]
for businesses like that.
[1:17:57]
I promise you.
[1:18:00]
>>trustee straw: responding to
[1:18:01]
trustee wesley, I want to be
[1:18:04]
clear, did not propose
[1:18:05]
preventing food trucks from
[1:18:11]
operating in residential areas.
[1:18:12]
Although, I will note that
[1:18:13]
right now it is pretty much
[1:18:16]
just the ice cream trucks that
[1:18:18]
show up in those residential
[1:18:23]
areas because there is not as
[1:18:28]
much foot traffic with the
[1:18:29]
exception of when there is a
[1:18:31]
block party or something like
[1:18:34]
that, where they are specially
[1:18:37]
invited.
[1:18:39]
I certainly have no issue with
[1:18:42]
food trucks operating in
[1:18:42]
residential areas.
[1:18:49]
I think that we just need to be
[1:18:54]
thoughtful as we move forward
[1:18:59]
with regulation and that is
[1:19:00]
why, you know, sort of seeing
[1:19:02]
mapped out, what would 250 feet
[1:19:06]
mean the versus 150 feet?
[1:19:08]
What is the right distance that
[1:19:13]
would provide opportunities or
[1:19:16]
-I don't know if this is a
[1:19:17]
question that staff is ready to
[1:19:18]
answer today or if a village
[1:19:19]
attorney.
[1:19:21]
Is there a way to regulate by
[1:19:25]
the type of cuisine so we
[1:19:32]
prevent that kind of
[1:19:33]
competition, where you have a
[1:19:34]
food truck selling the same
[1:19:34]
food right in front of a
[1:19:35]
brick-and-mortar?
[1:19:38]
I think that is really the type
[1:19:41]
of competition that it sounds
[1:19:46]
like is problematic here.
[1:19:48]
Rather than if I'm in the mood
[1:19:54]
for chicken and waffles and
[1:19:56]
that is why I'm going there, a
[1:19:57]
taco truck being parked out
[1:19:58]
front of them is not
[1:20:00]
necessarily going to change my
[1:20:00]
mind.
[1:20:03]
I was going for chicken and
[1:20:03]
waffles.
[1:20:06]
I do not want to prevent
[1:20:09]
business activity where we are
[1:20:12]
not actually seeing a problem.
[1:20:16]
I want to just make sure that
[1:20:17]
we are identifying and
[1:20:21]
targeting what they problematic
[1:20:22]
behavior is.
[1:20:23]
That is the only thing that I
[1:20:26]
was trying to highlight and
[1:20:29]
sort of the being thoughtful of
[1:20:30]
having as narrow of a scope as
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possible.
[1:20:40]
>>trustee robinson: I think
[1:20:41]
trustee straw, your point is
[1:20:41]
well taken.
[1:20:42]
I don't want to regulate it by
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food type.
[1:20:46]
I think we get too much in the
[1:20:46]
weeds.
[1:20:47]
Does that have to be the type
[1:20:48]
of food that that truck
[1:20:49]
exclusively cells, mostly
[1:20:49]
cells?
[1:20:50]
Can they sell ice cream and
[1:20:54]
tacos and park outside of taco
[1:20:54]
76?
[1:20:56]
Idon't want people to be slick
[1:20:58]
with it and then we are like
[1:21:03]
cutting hairs on what type of
[1:21:03]
food is sold.
[1:21:04]
That's a type of regulation
[1:21:08]
that gets more granular than I
[1:21:17]
would thank staff would want to
[1:21:17]
be.
[1:21:18]
I think you are right, that is
[1:21:20]
the competition point, that is
[1:21:21]
exactly the competition point.
[1:21:25]
That is just my thought on
[1:21:26]
edge.
[1:21:26]
It seems to invite a level of
[1:21:29]
specificity and granularity,
[1:21:30]
and regulation that I'm not
[1:21:33]
quite sure we want to really
[1:21:34]
get into.
[1:21:42]
I will point out that-did you
[1:21:43]
mention hot chocolate coffee?
[1:21:51]
Has been a long time since my
[1:21:52]
kids played baseball, but there
[1:21:53]
used to be a hot chocolate
[1:21:55]
coffee food truck at baseball
[1:22:00]
games who was a lifesaver on
[1:22:00]
cold game days.
[1:22:01]
I think it might be a little
[1:22:02]
more variety than we might be
[1:22:11]
naturally thinking of in our
[1:22:12]
residential areas.
[1:22:13]
You would park near a baseball
[1:22:14]
park, which those parts are in
[1:22:15]
residential areas.
[1:22:15]
There might be more variety
[1:22:16]
than we might be assuming.
[1:22:17]
So anyway, those are the two
[1:22:22]
things I wanted to add.
[1:22:23]
>> I think she has a bike now.
[1:22:25]
I think is a bike and said of a
[1:22:35]
truck.
[1:22:36]
-instead of a truck.
[1:22:37]
>>trustee parakkat: I agree
[1:22:38]
with trustee robinson that I
[1:22:39]
think the specificity can
[1:22:40]
become an enforcement challenge
[1:22:41]
quickly and that is
[1:22:42]
counterproductive to what we
[1:22:43]
are trying to do in the second
[1:22:44]
thing is also in terms of our
[1:22:45]
ability to attract future
[1:22:48]
businesses into a business
[1:22:48]
district as certain
[1:22:51]
ramifications in terms of our
[1:22:52]
attitude towards food trucks in
[1:22:55]
general, while it might be
[1:22:56]
complementary to begin with,
[1:22:59]
but let's say we d not have a
[1:23:00]
korean barbecue in our
[1:23:06]
community or we do not have a
[1:23:07]
specific kind of business,
[1:23:08]
their ability to come into it
[1:23:09]
and someone looking at oak park
[1:23:11]
as an investment opportunity
[1:23:13]
might be the fact that there
[1:23:14]
are food trucks that might
[1:23:15]
violate that or that becomes an
[1:23:19]
impediment.
[1:23:20]
It can be, I'm not saying it
[1:23:21]
will, but it could be.
[1:23:22]
Something to examine is our
[1:23:23]
ability to attract future
[1:23:24]
businesses and be a better
[1:23:25]
business environment for the
[1:23:32]
community in the long run.
[1:23:34]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: anything
[1:23:34]
further?
[1:23:35]
>>trustee wesley: I want to
[1:23:37]
note, trustee enyia, you were
[1:23:38]
mentioning about-the beer
[1:23:44]
shop and food trucks.
[1:23:45]
I thought about ken's locker
[1:23:46]
and how there is always a food
[1:23:47]
truck outside of ken's locker
[1:23:50]
because there's no rstaurants
[1:23:50]
around there.
[1:23:54]
I don't want to prevent the
[1:23:56]
food truck from sitting outside
[1:23:58]
of ken's locker, where they
[1:24:02]
have service there.
[1:24:03]
Yeah, yeah exactly.
[1:24:09]
It is the depot.
[1:24:14]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: what the
[1:24:15]
ordinance have that?
[1:24:19]
Want to make sure we are not
[1:24:20]
shutting out hot cocoa trucks
[1:24:21]
and coffee drugs and I want to
[1:24:23]
think about this from the
[1:24:32]
perspective of incentivizing
[1:24:33]
folks into areas.
[1:24:34]
To the point of-I know you
[1:24:35]
were not saying combine the
[1:24:36]
two, trustee straw, I saw
[1:24:37]
opportunity to talk about
[1:24:38]
zoning, so I took it.
[1:24:39]
I think getting food trucks
[1:24:40]
into places like around our
[1:24:43]
parks where people are
[1:24:44]
congregating and figuring out
[1:24:48]
how we can encourage that or in
[1:24:49]
northeast oak park they are
[1:24:50]
always in, we do not have a
[1:24:50]
coffee shop.
[1:24:51]
We cannot put a food truck that
[1:24:53]
allows you to have coffee, but
[1:24:54]
you can have a food truck with
[1:24:58]
coffee in the area MAY be
[1:24:59]
consistently and at a certain
[1:25:01]
spot and maybe that is
[1:25:02]
something that can bootstrap a
[1:25:04]
little bit of economic activity
[1:25:05]
in the area.
[1:25:11]
I'm open to not just how we
[1:25:13]
need to limit this around our
[1:25:14]
brick-and-mortar businesses,
[1:25:15]
but how we can encourage it in
[1:25:15]
other places where that level
[1:25:17]
that needs to protect against
[1:25:20]
competition is not there.
[1:25:21]
>> I was going to say one thing
[1:25:22]
great outside of special
[1:25:24]
events, we could look at MAY be
[1:25:26]
limiting the duration that they
[1:25:29]
are in one spot so they are not
[1:25:36]
there all day, lunch and dinner
[1:25:37]
or whatever or potentially look
[1:25:38]
at hours of operation when they
[1:25:39]
cannot be there or something,
[1:25:40]
but we can sort of mix that
[1:25:47]
into the evaluation of this.
[1:25:49]
>> I think all the comments
[1:25:51]
tonight have been good.
[1:25:54]
The consensus truly being that
[1:26:00]
we do value the investment of
[1:26:01]
brick-and-mortar businesses.
[1:26:02]
We want to be honoring that.
[1:26:07]
We also do not want to
[1:26:08]
completely cycle vibrancy and
[1:26:09]
parts of our community where it
[1:26:10]
is not necessarily in conflict.
[1:26:15]
How do we do that?
[1:26:15]
Good luck.
[1:26:23]
>> thank you.
[1:26:24]
>>trustee wesley: better you
[1:26:35]
than us.
[1:26:37]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: this is the
[1:26:38]
village manager form of
[1:26:38]
government.
[1:26:39]
We say what we hope to
[1:26:40]
accomplish and they help us
[1:26:40]
find it.
[1:26:46]
Figure out how to get there,
[1:26:46]
right?
[1:26:52]
Then it is called to board and
[1:26:52]
clerk.
[1:26:52]
Clerk waters?
[1:26:54]
>>clerk: we have another
[1:26:55]
non-agenda public comment.
[1:26:58]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: great.
[1:27:04]
>clerk: aiden?
[1:27:12]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: well,.
[1:27:12]
-welcome.
[1:27:14]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: they are
[1:27:15]
not comfortable cues, but thank
[1:27:16]
you for being here.
[1:27:20]
>>public commenter: sorry,
[1:27:21]
hello, my name is aiden
[1:27:22]
sullivan and I was born in my
[1:27:27]
suburban 25 years ago and I
[1:27:28]
have known oak park ever since.
[1:27:28]
There we go.
[1:27:29]
My question today is for
[1:27:31]
village PRESIDENT Scaman.
[1:27:37]
Village hall since inception
[1:27:38]
has been (Word?) Of finland
[1:27:39]
greatest similarities both the
[1:27:44]
static, both the static and
[1:27:44]
programmatic.
[1:27:46]
most productively, village
[1:27:47]
halls of mass timber, disparate
[1:27:48]
and gathered together.
[1:27:55]
As we do today, and more
[1:27:56]
generally as villagers.
[1:27:57]
I understand your opponents
[1:27:58]
position in regards to this
[1:27:59]
issue, however yours, with all
[1:28:00]
due respect gives me pause.
[1:28:01]
Would you alleviate my concerns
[1:28:02]
today by articulate and want
[1:28:07]
to, thankfully, flopped your
[1:28:08]
original stands as to the fate
[1:28:09]
of this building and what
[1:28:10]
impetus you have personally
[1:28:11]
found towards its preservation
[1:28:14]
that will prevent your stance
[1:28:15]
from flipping again once the
[1:28:16]
scrutiny of an upcoming
[1:28:17]
election is no longer a fctor
[1:28:18]
in the decision.
[1:28:19]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: I'm happy
[1:28:19]
to answer it.
[1:28:20]
I'm not sure this is a forum so
[1:28:21]
I would offer anyone the
[1:28:31]
opportunity to counter also
[1:28:32]
respond.
[1:28:32]
In all fairness.
[1:28:33]
The process of the facilities
[1:28:34]
committee did have me
[1:28:38]
appreciating the beauty of this
[1:28:39]
building and I feel as a
[1:28:40]
community if we can demonstrate
[1:28:50]
how to renovate it so it can be
[1:28:51]
-respond to our communities
[1:28:52]
needs for the next 50 years
[1:28:53]
that we are setting an example
[1:28:55]
of how to do it.
[1:28:57]
Recognizing that it is
[1:28:58]
challenging and expensive.
[1:28:59]
>>public commenter: I
[1:29:02]
appreciate the drive for
[1:29:03]
sustainable architecture and
[1:29:06]
that sort of thing.
[1:29:16]
I don't know, the cause of this
[1:29:17]
comes from just an
[1:29:18]
understanding of historic
[1:29:19]
preservation and that notion
[1:29:20]
that the greenest building is
[1:29:21]
the one that is already here
[1:29:22]
and if this one is such a nice
[1:29:23]
one to begin with, we should do
[1:29:24]
everything we can to make sure
[1:29:25]
it is still around.
[1:29:27]
I don't know, you see -- that
[1:29:29]
got tore down across from tasty
[1:29:30]
dog and all of that.
[1:29:31]
It would be a shame to see the
[1:29:33]
same fate of all of this.
[1:29:34]
I keep driving by for many
[1:29:35]
years to come.
[1:29:37]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[1:29:37]
you.
[1:29:38]
In all fairness, if anybody has
[1:29:39]
any comment they would like to
[1:29:39]
make?
[1:29:41]
In response to the question I
[1:29:42]
have received?
[1:29:48]
Then I would welcome.
[1:29:48]
Okay.
[1:29:49]
Very good.
[1:29:50]
Thank you for engaging with
[1:29:55]
your local government.
[1:29:55]
Mhm.
[1:29:57]
Then back to clerk waters.
[1:30:05]
>>clerk: just wanted to remind
[1:30:08]
our community that we are in
[1:30:13]
our second day of early voting
[1:30:14]
and the so it is really
[1:30:20]
important that you stop by
[1:30:21]
village hall within the next
[1:30:22]
week and 1/2, at this point
[1:30:23]
now.
[1:30:24]
We will be open from 9:00
[1:30:28]
A.M.-at 5:00 P.M.
[1:30:29]
Monday-saturday.
[1:30:31]
On sundays from 10:00 A.M.-4
[1:30:31]
pm.
[1:30:39]
We are not a polling place on
[1:30:40]
election day, however, you will
[1:30:41]
have 18 polling locations to
[1:30:43]
choose from that are inclusive
[1:30:44]
of 32 different precincts.
[1:30:46]
We are very lucky in that
[1:30:46]
sense.
[1:30:53]
Just for member to vote, local
[1:30:54]
elections are important and you
[1:30:55]
want to vote for your village
[1:31:01]
PRESIDENT, your trustees, your
[1:31:03]
clerk, who shape and create
[1:31:04]
policy, your school boards for
[1:31:04]
district 97, which cover
[1:31:05]
kindergarten through eighth
[1:31:07]
grade, district 200, which
[1:31:09]
covers high school grades 9-12
[1:31:10]
and even district 504, which
[1:31:12]
covers triton community
[1:31:13]
college.
[1:31:14]
There is also the township, the
[1:31:15]
park district as well a the
[1:31:15]
library.
[1:31:16]
That is on the ballot.
[1:31:19]
I also want to make mention in
[1:31:20]
celebration of a volunteer we,
[1:31:21]
the village of oak park will
[1:31:26]
host its second annual
[1:31:27]
neighborhood cleanup on a
[1:31:29]
saturday, APRIL 12 from 9:00
[1:31:32]
A.M.-noon and I also wanted to
[1:31:33]
make mention and think the
[1:31:35]
village of oak park for
[1:31:38]
allowing the clerk's office to
[1:31:39]
bring forward the proclamation
[1:31:43]
for black maternal health week.
[1:31:50]
As a mother of four, this is a
[1:31:51]
very important proclamation.
[1:31:52]
It is the first.
[1:31:53]
So again, I want to thank
[1:32:00]
everyone and I just want to
[1:32:01]
provide this quick synopsis
[1:32:02]
that black maternal health week
[1:32:03]
is a crucial initiative focused
[1:32:13]
on raising awareness and
[1:32:14]
maternal health disparities
[1:32:15]
faced by black women.
[1:32:16]
Advocating for equitable
[1:32:17]
healthcare access and
[1:32:18]
addressing the root causes of
[1:32:18]
these inequities.
[1:32:20]
Including systemic racism,
[1:32:21]
socioeconomic factors and
[1:32:22]
inadequate healthcare
[1:32:22]
infrastructure.
[1:32:23]
Thank you.
[1:32:25]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[1:32:25]
you.
[1:32:26]
>>trustee enyia: thank you for
[1:32:27]
all of these amazing
[1:32:29]
proclamations.
[1:32:33]
Thank you so much for joining
[1:32:33]
us today.
[1:32:35]
I think that is amazing, mental
[1:32:36]
health is huge and to have an
[1:32:37]
advocate like you will
[1:32:37]
definitely help drive this in
[1:32:40]
our village and there is a lot
[1:32:41]
of good partners that I know
[1:32:46]
are willing to help in that
[1:32:51]
push for you.
[1:32:52]
Really want to be think of for
[1:32:53]
this population for doctor
[1:32:54]
percy julian and his wife.
[1:32:55]
Their contributions to this
[1:33:01]
village are so, so much.
[1:33:02]
I can never repay someone who
[1:33:06]
has done so much for all of us
[1:33:07]
and we do not even know it.
[1:33:11]
Some people have no idea of the
[1:33:12]
great works that he and his
[1:33:13]
wife have gone through and
[1:33:14]
their son who was a civil
[1:33:14]
rights attorney.
[1:33:19]
They are a model of what you
[1:33:25]
hope for in the human spirit
[1:33:26]
and condition and what they
[1:33:27]
push for and strive for and the
[1:33:28]
perseverance they had through
[1:33:30]
all the challenges that they
[1:33:31]
met here in oak park and still
[1:33:32]
pushed through and wanted to
[1:33:37]
make this place their home.
[1:33:38]
I tried to reach out to faith
[1:33:39]
and was unsuccessful, but I
[1:33:40]
know she will want to see this
[1:33:41]
and probably ask for the
[1:33:47]
recording of this meeting.
[1:33:48]
Lastly, not lastly, but I will
[1:33:49]
bring up-since you brought up
[1:33:50]
a volunteering.
[1:33:51]
If you have a chance you can go
[1:34:03]
to the (Word?) Website and they
[1:34:04]
have -- they have multiple
[1:34:05]
days through the month of APRIL
[1:34:06]
that you can donate two hours
[1:34:07]
of your time.
[1:34:08]
It makes a huge difference in
[1:34:09]
people's lives.
[1:34:10]
Lost a friend last weekend it
[1:34:11]
has been a really, really
[1:34:12]
difficult week for my group of
[1:34:13]
friends here in oak park.
[1:34:14]
His name was colin thorpe and
[1:34:16]
his family has lived here for a
[1:34:18]
long, long time and still do.
[1:34:21]
He was very special to this
[1:34:22]
community.
[1:34:26]
He was always a happy face to
[1:34:27]
see on difficult days and he
[1:34:28]
always had a bright smile and
[1:34:33]
always, always made you feel
[1:34:33]
better.
[1:34:35]
We are all hurting that he is
[1:34:36]
not here anymore.
[1:34:39]
I just want to make sure his
[1:34:40]
family knows that we are all
[1:34:48]
here for them, no matter what
[1:34:49]
they need.
[1:34:50]
They are such a light for our
[1:34:51]
community and it is so sad to
[1:34:52]
see that he is not here
[1:34:52]
anymore.
[1:34:53]
I wanted to make sure that they
[1:34:54]
know we are here for them.
[1:34:56]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[1:35:02]
>>trustee straw: first I want
[1:35:03]
to, you know, thank the whole
[1:35:05]
board for all of these lovely
[1:35:09]
proclamations that we did here
[1:35:12]
tonight and I want to speak
[1:35:16]
particularly to the
[1:35:17]
proclamation around trans day
[1:35:18]
of a visibility and just the
[1:35:23]
incredible group of people who
[1:35:26]
came out tonight and supported
[1:35:26]
it.
[1:35:28]
I have had it so many
[1:35:30]
conversations over the course
[1:35:36]
of the last year or two in
[1:35:40]
particular with families of
[1:35:41]
trans youth that have moved to
[1:35:47]
oak park recently as a result
[1:35:53]
of just really terrible
[1:35:54]
situations in the states they
[1:35:55]
were moving from and that oak
[1:35:58]
park is seen as a community
[1:36:02]
where they can feel safe and
[1:36:04]
included, and that is an
[1:36:07]
example of how the values that
[1:36:11]
we are talking about at this
[1:36:14]
table and our efforts around
[1:36:18]
truly being an inclusive
[1:36:23]
cmmunity, how meaningful they
[1:36:25]
can be.
[1:36:29]
That children who were
[1:36:30]
suffering are able to come into
[1:36:33]
our community and begin to
[1:36:34]
thrive because they are ending
[1:36:38]
up in a place where they feel
[1:36:42]
loved and supported, and
[1:36:43]
included.
[1:36:44]
It is incredibly important and
[1:36:46]
I is a success story for oak
[1:36:51]
park and this proclamation
[1:36:56]
tonight is an important part of
[1:36:57]
that, making sure that
[1:36:58]
community feels seen and
[1:37:01]
valued, and included.
[1:37:03]
You know, I want to thank the
[1:37:07]
community and that the board
[1:37:09]
for making that proclamation
[1:37:13]
happen.
[1:37:14]
And I did-I do want to
[1:37:18]
respond to-a little bit to
[1:37:19]
the public comment that we had
[1:37:21]
here at the end.
[1:37:22]
It just briefly because I feel
[1:37:25]
like there has been a good
[1:37:30]
amount of confusion recently
[1:37:34]
around the village hall process
[1:37:40]
because there is a great deal
[1:37:41]
of-a great deal of space
[1:37:43]
where everyone on this board
[1:37:44]
agrees.
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We have to move forward with a
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new police station and that is
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the highest priority and it is
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also in every budget estimate
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we have seen, it is the largest
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portion of any facilities plan
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goes towards the police
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station.
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We have to take care of
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deferred maintenance and upkeep
[1:38:16]
in the village hall.
[1:38:17]
That is something that from
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what I've heard, there is a
[1:38:20]
broad concern here on the board
[1:38:23]
and from the numbers we have
[1:38:27]
seen, that is in the range of
[1:38:27]
$20 million.
[1:38:32]
that is a place where everybody
[1:38:33]
here is in agreement, I believe
[1:38:38]
folks will correct me if I'm
[1:38:39]
wrong, I'm sure.
[1:38:39]
The disputes then just come
[1:38:41]
down to end the discussion that
[1:38:44]
will be ongoing comes down to
[1:38:51]
how much a well renovations go
[1:38:52]
beyond just deferred
[1:38:53]
maintenance and upkeep and what
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will the timeframe be?
[1:38:59]
So like, we have heard a lot of
[1:39:10]
confusion and back and forth
[1:39:10]
and big numbers.
[1:39:11]
It is the police station, there
[1:39:17]
is consensus that is going to
[1:39:17]
happen.
[1:39:18]
Have to figure out how much
[1:39:19]
that is going to cost.
[1:39:20]
It is always the largest part
[1:39:22]
of every estimate we see.
[1:39:23]
We have to take care of
[1:39:24]
deferred maintenance and upkeep
[1:39:25]
and it is just a question of,
[1:39:29]
are we doing bare minimum on
[1:39:34]
renovation or how big would
[1:39:35]
renovation be?
[1:39:35]
That is the conversation and
[1:39:36]
that is the conversation we
[1:39:40]
will keep having at the board
[1:39:41]
table, and it is going to be a
[1:39:44]
while before we are doing a yes
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or no vote on a particular plan
[1:39:50]
with a particular budget.
[1:39:55]
So we have a wild to go on that
[1:39:55]
discussion.
[1:39:56]
It is not going to be this
[1:40:00]
exact board who is making the
[1:40:05]
final decision.
[1:40:06]
>>trustee wesley: I just want
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to say how amazing it is to be
[1:40:17]
part of something that supports
[1:40:25]
a year so full of awful bigotry
[1:40:26]
and to see us fill these
[1:40:27]
chambers up and supporting the
[1:40:28]
folks that are here, supporting
[1:40:30]
the friends and family of the
[1:40:34]
folks that are here really does
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-it is a welcome beacon of
[1:40:50]
hope and support in this year.
[1:40:50]
that's all.
[1:40:52]
>trustee parakkat: two things.
[1:40:58]
One is a response to village
[1:40:59]
hall situation, the fact that
[1:41:01]
we were not able to discuss
[1:41:04]
this, I think it deserves
[1:41:04]
comment.
[1:41:11]
I think the issue is that JULY
[1:41:16]
2023, we as a board made a
[1:41:17]
decision that that is the only
[1:41:18]
time we made a cost estimate
[1:41:23]
based decision where the cost
[1:41:24]
of demolition rebuild, which is
[1:41:30]
option four I got selected up
[1:41:31]
to $138 million.
[1:41:36]
The cost of a police station is
[1:41:37]
$65 million at that point in
[1:41:37]
time.
[1:41:40]
That is option one.
[1:41:43]
The fact that we decided to go
[1:41:45]
with option four is the time we
[1:41:46]
indicated to everyone that we
[1:41:49]
are willing to spend that kind
[1:41:51]
of money on this village hall.
[1:41:56]
Hundred and $14 million.
[1:41:58]
They put a target on our back.
[1:41:59]
Architect started seeing dollar
[1:42:04]
signs on oak park and we have
[1:42:05]
been having discussions over
[1:42:06]
the last two years.
[1:42:11]
So much so that our much-needed
[1:42:12]
established need for a police
[1:42:13]
facility has now been delayed
[1:42:17]
by two years and we have been
[1:42:21]
bogged down by the and not made
[1:42:21]
any decisions yet.
[1:42:22]
I think the cost, even if it is
[1:42:26]
just the police facility, we
[1:42:27]
should have actually had a
[1:42:28]
limit or constraint placed on
[1:42:30]
top of that to make sure that
[1:42:33]
we are setting the stage for
[1:42:34]
setting the right constraints
[1:42:37]
for what is affordable to this
[1:42:37]
community.
[1:42:41]
I think at this point, in the
[1:42:43]
last two years we have had
[1:42:48]
facilities commission and other
[1:42:49]
discussions interpreted through
[1:42:50]
the process is pointless
[1:42:51]
because we have already made
[1:42:59]
the poor decision to set the
[1:43:00]
stage for $114 million
[1:43:01]
expenditure and that is not
[1:43:02]
fair on the community.
[1:43:03]
That is definitely against our
[1:43:04]
values of affordability and
[1:43:04]
inclusivity.
[1:43:06]
That is the point in making and
[1:43:12]
let's see what comes in APRIL
[1:43:13]
and figure out where we go from
[1:43:16]
here, but the last two years we
[1:43:20]
spent $2 million on many
[1:43:21]
architects and haven't gotten
[1:43:21]
anywhere.
[1:43:22]
The second thing, this is the
[1:43:25]
last board meeting before we
[1:43:26]
have the election and this is
[1:43:28]
the last board meeting that I
[1:43:32]
will be a trustee.
[1:43:33]
I'm very glad that I was able
[1:43:36]
to discuss a topic or bring to
[1:43:42]
the board a topic and discuss
[1:43:42]
it around food, small
[1:43:43]
businesses, which is near and
[1:43:44]
dear to my heart.
[1:43:46]
I appreciate the opportunity
[1:43:51]
and see everybody in the next
[1:43:51]
session.
[1:43:54]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[1:43:56]
It is unfortunate that we are
[1:43:58]
not able to talk about the
[1:44:02]
village board hall this
[1:44:03]
evening.
[1:44:03]
There was an appropriate time
[1:44:07]
during the board agenda to have
[1:44:08]
a discussion of-which wasn't
[1:44:09]
just a statement and you could
[1:44:12]
dialogue with your colleagues,
[1:44:18]
which were all your colleagues,
[1:44:19]
trustee parakkat.
[1:44:22]
Colleagues have said for a year
[1:44:23]
and 1/2 that they are not
[1:44:26]
comfortable with $138 million.
[1:44:27]
So I'm not sure that you do not
[1:44:28]
trust your colleagues when they
[1:44:34]
say that or what the case is,
[1:44:35]
but when we voted on that, you
[1:44:36]
are right, that is the estimate
[1:44:38]
that was brought forward, but
[1:44:40]
at the same time, the board
[1:44:41]
said, when is our opportunity
[1:44:49]
to challenge that amount
[1:44:50]
because all we were voting on
[1:44:51]
was building up a new police
[1:44:52]
station, which as brian has
[1:44:53]
said many times is the lion
[1:44:59]
share of any cost and that we
[1:45:00]
will have renovation that will
[1:45:05]
be necessary and we will have
[1:45:06]
maintenances in the building
[1:45:07]
that will be necessary and then
[1:45:09]
we have values of which we all
[1:45:10]
weighed in on values in a
[1:45:14]
session and our entire process
[1:45:15]
has been to bring us as much
[1:45:20]
information as possible so we,
[1:45:22]
as responsible elected
[1:45:23]
individuals can make our
[1:45:30]
decision based on as much
[1:45:31]
information as possible.
[1:45:32]
This board has been very
[1:45:33]
careful on all of or decisions
[1:45:36]
to center affordability and to
[1:45:37]
-we challenge regularly making
[1:45:41]
sure that we have a high level
[1:45:46]
of information in making our
[1:45:46]
decisions.
[1:45:47]
So it has been a joint process
[1:45:49]
of which we have all been able
[1:45:52]
to weigh in on.
[1:45:58]
So we decided, as a board, the
[1:45:59]
consensus of the board was new
[1:46:02]
police station is the priority.
[1:46:07]
We addressed maintenance and
[1:46:08]
rehab and as brian said, how
[1:46:16]
much we have or the ability to
[1:46:17]
phase in has been said many
[1:46:17]
times.
[1:46:18]
We all said, when will we be
[1:46:19]
able to challenge what the cost
[1:46:20]
was when we made that vote?
[1:46:22]
It was just deciding the
[1:46:23]
direction and working with an
[1:46:26]
architect, with our staff to
[1:46:27]
challenge and then find where
[1:46:31]
our comfort zone was.
[1:46:32]
I will say, since we have our
[1:46:34]
wednesday journal in the room,
[1:46:43]
I did not say under $100,000.
[1:46:44]
that would also be me
[1:46:45]
perpetrating a false narrative
[1:46:46]
and I am not about that.
[1:46:47]
There is no way it will be
[1:46:49]
under $100,000.
[1:46:49]
$100 million.
[1:46:51]
I don't know why it is such a
[1:46:57]
challenge to be quoted
[1:47:00]
properly, but the police
[1:47:04]
station itself will most
[1:47:05]
definitely need to be under
[1:47:07]
that in order for us to have
[1:47:11]
any reasonable budget.
[1:47:25]
Maybe-I literally just read.
[1:47:25]
Otherwise, yes.
[1:47:26]
Your colleagues have been
[1:47:27]
together in the saying they are
[1:47:28]
not comfortable with $130
[1:47:29]
million yet.
[1:47:31]
That number keeps going out
[1:47:32]
there, disrespecting her
[1:47:34]
colleagues and the staff.
[1:47:35]
I would rather concentrate on
[1:47:41]
the beautiful night we had with
[1:47:42]
all of the-those in the
[1:47:44]
transgender community who came
[1:47:49]
out and their allies in such a
[1:47:52]
beautiful way and I think,
[1:47:53]
again, my colleagues and staff
[1:47:59]
in our village clerk for
[1:48:00]
supporting this proclamation
[1:48:03]
and the idea of really, truly
[1:48:09]
embracing and being a safe
[1:48:10]
place for all.
[1:48:11]
Have a good evening.
[1:48:15]
I entertain a motion to
[1:48:15]
adjourn.
[1:48:16]
>> so moved.
[1:48:16]
>> second.
[1:48:18]
>>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
[1:48:18]
favor,