[0:00] Do you guys get this by the way? >> You ready?

[0:02] » All right. Welcome everybody to our town commission special budget workshop

[0:06] meeting. Kelly, would you call the role, please?

[0:11] » Commissioner Cassidy >> here.

[0:13] » Vice Mayor Cause >> here.

[0:15] » And Mayor Pew >> here.

[0:18] Let's stand for the pledge of >> allegiance.

[0:23] To the flag [clears throat] and to the republic for it stands one nation

[0:30] under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[0:38] » Where's Lynette? >> What happened? Where's Lynette?

[0:41] » I don't know. >> Supposed to be calling in.

[0:43] » Oh, she's calling in. All right. So, let's go and move right

[0:47] to the budget agenda items. Manager.

[0:51] » Yeah. Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioner Cassidy, we are ready to

[0:55] move through quickly. I promised you a halfhour meeting and so bear with me as

[0:59] we just move quickly through my PowerPoint presentations.

[1:02] Welcome to the last day of summer and your last budget workshop.

[1:09] » Yay. >> Exactly. All right. Thank you for uh

[1:13] your patience and moving through this and coming together one more time. So,

[1:17] as you can see from this slide, this will be available to the public as well

[1:20] with the additional information, but I'm just going to give the highlights here

[1:23] for >> are we in this in the book or are we in

[1:25] the >> we're on right here, which is the book.

[1:27] And that's why I didn't want to pass that out just yet because that was free

[1:30] for you to go home with. That's your take-home package.

[1:33] » Uh, so the slide in front of you is where we're at. And we're speaking about

[1:37] the cost to operate and as uh Commissioner Alla likes to say, what's

[1:40] it cost to keep the lights on and so here it is. 11.39

[1:44] million is what it costs to keep the lights on. Operations looks like this.

[1:48] Overall, um just over 5 million out of the general fund, 5.33, about 300,000 in

[1:54] capital projects, and just over 500,000 in the building funds. As you can see,

[1:59] it's an increase over fiscal year 26 is amended budget by about $948,000.

[2:06] Year-over-year growth is 9.1%. Move on from that.

[2:11] personnel here. What we uh initially we were talking about in some of our

[2:15] one-on- ons the growth of the V budget versus like say CPI and I thought that

[2:20] this might be a better comparison for everybody to take a look at and that's

[2:24] the this is personnel growth itself in context to what other local governments

[2:31] utilize uh for the for the measurement of how they're doing. And so that's um

[2:37] right now we are running a Now I'm trying to remember what ECI

[2:43] stands for. Am I I just lost employment cost index. Thank you. I'm like I always

[2:47] say ECI and then you lose it. >> So you Yeah, we're 2.4% right now versus

[2:52] what the ECI is running which is 3.6%. So you're saying that's 1.2 points

[2:58] below, which is nice, but we do need to um do what we can next year. I've

[3:02] already spoke to our insurance carrier and asked them for options next year for

[3:09] the commission to take a look at to make sure that um to make sure you have

[3:14] options, you know. So, the health and dental continues to grow and the

[3:18] national trend itself is at 6%, we're at 9.6.

[3:25] Next is the reserve position. So I I worked yesterday uh really the last two

[3:30] Sundays with Commissioner Ayella with uh the reserve itself and then also

[3:36] contingency conversations. Right now we are projected to have about $6.5 million

[3:41] of unassigned general fund balance and that equates to 60.5%

[3:47] of the expenses expected for fiscal year 27 which is the budget that you're

[3:52] taking a look at in these next couple of weeks. And that is um an appropriate

[3:57] number for the amount of work that we're doing at this time. Go ahead and take

[4:01] with the reserve itself and then also contingency conversations. Right now we

[4:06] are million dollars of unassigned general

[4:10] fund balance and that equates to 60.5% of of the expenses expected for fiscal

[4:18] year 27 which is the budget that you're taking a look at in these next couple of

[4:22] weeks. And that is um an appropriate number for the amount of work that we're

[4:26] doing at this time. >> By the way, that's 237 days

[4:29] » with the reserve itself and then also contingency

[4:34] over 50% of the year. Correct. Yes. >> Million dollar.

[4:37] » So the reser So what should it be? Here's the slide that says what should

[4:40] it be? What should the range be and what kind of risk should we anticipate? So I

[4:44] gave you a little column there of uh risks that we look at and consider and

[4:49] and the government agencies all around us do the same thing. And really, you

[4:54] know, what we've been trending is right where we should be and that's between 50

[4:57] and 60% and that's what GFOA suggests as well. Go ahead and move to the next

[5:05] slide. Slide. And so right now, as you know, let's talk about what a

[5:10] contingency is. It's the annual budget appropriation that we set aside to

[5:13] address unforeseen and nonrecurring or unbudgeted needs that may arise during

[5:19] the first fiscal year. uh then that's distinctly different from

[5:23] a fund balance reserve. The contingency funds provide short-term in-year

[5:28] flexibility, but the long-term financial risks are addressed through the town's

[5:31] unassigned fund balance reserves, which again we we spoke about a target between

[5:35] 50% >> and 60%.

[5:37] » That how how much of that because that's what we budgeted last year. How much did

[5:41] we spend >> of the contingency?

[5:44] » We uh we spent just about 200,000 of it. >> Okay.

[5:49] » Yeah. October.

[5:51] » Mhm. >> Yes. Right now there is, but we're not

[5:53] done with the projects that we're in. >> We have to.

[5:56] » And by the way, if we get in the weeds, you can pull from the general reserve

[5:59] fund into contingency at a meeting. >> I can if you allow it. Sure. I would I

[6:04] would need to bring it back if we came back and and want if we needed to go

[6:07] into reserves. You would always have to approve that. I would not be able to

[6:10] just move that, right? >> And so here again, we're talking about

[6:14] uh contingency itself. So the recommended target uh that I would give

[6:18] you instead of just a blanket 500,000 which is what we've done the last two

[6:23] years uh we should look really for a best practice around the 4% mark. Um

[6:29] this year I'd like to stay with the 500,000 which is what I have in your

[6:32] budget specifically because of the ambiguity

[6:35] around what's happening in Tallahassee. But in the future, we could look at a

[6:40] best practice of around 4% and that should give us good flexibility as the

[6:44] budget goes up and down. >> Okay.

[6:47] » All right. Next slide. And then overall, my recommendation would be not just the

[6:53] 4% for your annual contingency, but also 58% for the reserves itself.

[7:00] Combined, you're looking at 62% of operations total for this particular

[7:06] year. flexibility of the budget >> in the future. It would make sense.

[7:10] » All right. >> That's a recommendation at this point.

[7:12] » Overall, my recommendation >> from a policy perspective, I don't want

[7:15] to make it part of your financial policy >> simply because I want to get past

[7:20] January and see what happens at the state

[7:24] uh with amendment three. But this would be a good guidance for best practices.

[7:29] And that's what do you think about that? So, we can

[7:34] do a quick thumbs up, thumbs down on that.

[7:37] No, I think it's a great idea. >> You like it? Is that all right?

[7:39] » Just like I say, we got to wait after after the run.

[7:42] » Yeah, I think I just think it's smart. >> Yeah, right now it's uh we're dealing

[7:48] with so much ambiguity it would be wrong to do a policy and set a policy until

[7:53] then. >> Okay, that's good with that.

[7:56] » Yep. >> Then we can move right into the big

[7:58] discussion and that's the water service authority. Now remember this is a

[8:01] concept and I'll um update the general you know

[8:07] public because and this is the first time you guys get a chance to come

[8:10] together and talk about it but um Andrew Mack is here and he's from Boon Beach.

[8:14] He's assistant city manager with the city of Boon Beach. Thank you for being

[8:17] here in case we want to make you part of our discussions Andrew and he's been a

[8:21] great partner. you know, the city of Boon Beach approached staff initially uh

[8:26] and said, um, you know, we've have we've got this concept of creating a regional

[8:31] water authority. They were initially in conversations with Palm Beach County uh

[8:36] to see about really turning their water services over to Palm Beach County

[8:40] because Palm Beach County gave um the impression that they may want to merge

[8:46] or purchase them straight out. So when those conversations weren't

[8:50] materializing to anything, uh, they came up with this other concept. And so they

[8:55] approached me and then as a result, you all were open enough to have a

[8:58] one-on-one about it. And so I appreciated your individual time. And

[9:01] it's also important for you all to come together and um, and discuss it and see,

[9:06] you know, what you think and maybe what questions you might have. Right now

[9:12] it's, you know, it's a concept. It's a model that it would be very similar to

[9:16] other models that are in South Florida and throughout the country. Our closest

[9:21] model would be Ca Coast Border Service Authority. Uh and this would enable us

[9:26] to move our infrastructure u burdens if you will the infrastructure

[9:34] itself and the asset and the liabilities over to the authority. And in the

[9:40] meantime though that there's a long process that has to happen between now

[9:43] and it being um done should both commissions because it would take both

[9:48] commissions to initiate it. Uh should we get there and the methodology behind how

[9:54] we get there from my understanding is and Andrew feel free to jump up and

[9:59] correct me if if I go sideways. The state statute allows for uh two

[10:05] agencies to come together and create a partnership to um to start it. And at

[10:10] that we can be partners in starting the process itself. And then as as we come

[10:16] together there would be an opportunity for the authority itself to reimburse

[10:22] the town and the city for any startup cost. That's my wording, startup costs.

[10:28] And that would look like attorneys. We would need to hire bond counsel. We

[10:33] would need to partner with uh any any type of any type of additional services,

[10:39] consulting services, all of that would get reimbursed and we would make sure

[10:43] that's part of any memorandum of understanding that would be in the

[10:47] future. >> So, can we break down the cost because I

[10:49] got a little >> Yeah, I don't I would not there yet.

[10:53] » If we vote say yes, go and explore this. That doesn't cost us any money. only if

[10:58] we then decide to sign on those fees or those costs kick in.

[11:03] » So there's a yes and there's a no to that question. That's a good question. I

[11:07] anticipate it to cost us some money. So for instance,

[11:10] » staff time or >> it'll be both. It'll be staff time. It

[11:13] will also be um consultants time. It will be attorney's time. You'll want to

[11:18] get an attorney that's outside of our town attorney that specializes in in

[11:22] these types of things that does it, you know, like on a daily basis. And the

[11:25] reason for that is because we just want to do all of our due diligence and if

[11:29] you all decide to move forward then it would get reimbursed. But you know if

[11:35] you start to go down this path and it doesn't seem like it's in the best

[11:38] interest of your residents and if it's not a path you want to continue down

[11:42] then any cost that we've put out would not we'd have to observe. Yeah.

[11:47] » Any estimate on the exploration cost? Right now, I what I've put aside is I've

[11:52] put $200,000 aside underneath the town managers um uh department for project

[11:59] unknown project issues, consultants, etc. And then separately, I've put

[12:04] $100,000 aside in the legal for outside special counsel.

[12:07] » So, a total of 300 >> 300,000. Now, I didn't add that to the

[12:10] budget. What I did is I took from our capital improvement plan. I I removed

[12:15] the town hall hardening. Remember at one of the workshops we discussed putting or

[12:20] the opportunity potentially of putting the floodgates up that FTEM one. I know

[12:27] you hate that idea, mayor, >> which means we couldn't get out when

[12:30] » Exactly. It didn't make Yeah. So anyway, we took that 300,000 away from capital

[12:36] and um and then I just put it back into the general fund and then we put that's

[12:40] where we have it earmarked right now. you know, if I get your thumbs up, it'll

[12:44] stay there for now in the budget and live there for now. Uh, as we move

[12:48] through the process, um, after October 1st, if we actually are on that path,

[12:53] then I would turn it into a project number and move that fund just so that

[12:57] we can keep track of it, uh, completely and, um, and and move it out that way.

[13:01] So, let me stop there and see what questions you have so far.

[13:05] I can't imagine it would cost 300,000 towards me either.

[13:10] » But I mean I don't see the reason why we wouldn't do.

[13:14] » Yeah, absolutely. >> We've explored sewer, we've explored

[13:18] gas, we've now we're exploring the water pipes.

[13:22] » As long as >> could be part of this.

[13:23] » Mhm. >> As long as you brought up sewers. This

[13:25] is the one thing I didn't understand in this page three. I guess it is page

[13:30] four. why this is part of this package because we suddenly jumped to 9 million

[13:36] in 2031 because it includes sewers and it says we're going to be reimbursed for

[13:40] that from the water authority. I don't [clears throat] get that.

[13:43] » Okay. So, uh I gave you a 10-year capital improvement plan.

[13:48] » Yep. And in that t capital improvement plan, I included the uh pricing

[13:54] estimates that you received when you did your sewer study and I allocated that

[14:00] over a course of years. 2030 and 2031 is the beginning of those years.

[14:05] » I get that. >> Uh so it's

[14:07] for our purposes here that that service has the opportunity to move with your

[14:13] water infrastructure pipes. So it would be not only just your drinking water,

[14:18] you would have the opportunity to move the sewer into the same authority

[14:21] » into the same authority. >> Is that you guys hand will handle both?

[14:26] » Well, the the authority will handle both. Yeah. Right. [laughter]

[14:32] » Thank you. Good afternoon. Andrew Mack, deputy city manager for the city of Boon

[14:36] Beach. Um yes, this authority will um oversee water and sewer for the city. Um

[14:41] it's a little bit unique for you guys because you are septic in certain areas.

[14:45] So um >> all areas

[14:47] » all areas, right? So we'll have to work through that particular um subset. You

[14:52] know, how does it get converted over to sewer cuz it's it's really a private

[14:57] system, you know, sewer on a private property. So we're we're not taking over

[15:00] private property, but that's something that we could do in the future and plan

[15:04] with you guys. >> So if let's in fact we did that. um is

[15:09] that 9,000 it's not part of you you mentioned the bond that goes across all

[15:13] users that this is outside of that. >> Correct.

[15:16] » Cuz it's specific to our use. >> Correct. And it probably would be more

[15:19] like um either a little subset a district within there or a special

[15:24] taxing author district within that that area that would cover that cost. So

[15:28] those costs would be borne by that that area. Gotcha. Um there are we have been

[15:32] successful um I think I mentioned this at some of our one-on- ones that with

[15:36] Tana Habaluxo we were successful in doing some septic to sewer conversions.

[15:40] So those grants are also available still available through the authority if

[15:43] that's that how that goes. >> So we're talking about 10 years from

[15:46] » yeah it's future cost now 10 years >> we might be talking never

[15:51] » that's >> yeah I think I think right now the

[15:54] biggest thing it's going to be the cost and if it ever comes mandated that

[15:57] that'll be the biggest catch for everybody.

[15:59] » Exactly. >> Yeah. So, right now we're just talking

[16:01] about the water. >> Um, we correct. Right. So, um,

[16:05] » that's why it stopped Saturday. >> I do apologize. Uh, we we were scheduled

[16:09] to hear this item for you guys and we just didn't. Um, one of our meetings got

[16:14] rescheduled and when we met with the commissioners, they wanted a little bit

[16:18] more time to digest some of the information that we we provide them. Um,

[16:22] namely some of the stuff that we were looking through that we would like to

[16:25] get a little bit more detail on when even before we come back to you is how

[16:29] the board makeup, which was a lot of our questions as well. So, uh, that was one

[16:33] of the reasons why we didn't get it. Plus, it also gave us time to get back

[16:36] to the commission and also speak to the county um because we're still in

[16:39] negotiations with the county. So, we needed to kind of walk before we ran.

[16:43] Um, so brought something back to the commission as a discussion item to get

[16:47] their their direction on which way to go. This this was initial exploratory

[16:51] conversations that we have with your manager, but it does look like this

[16:54] would be the direction that we would go. >> So none of the exploratory money is

[16:58] going towards exploring the potentials. >> No, correct. Not for my last thing. I

[17:03] just got this in the mail literally before I arrived at the meeting. I

[17:06] assume you guys put this out. >> Yeah, that's our our increase for our

[17:10] water rates, >> right? This is the amendment we were

[17:12] talking about alerting the public. Did you get this? We we received

[17:16] notification and u we put out in the social media world you did the links and

[17:21] we put it on our Facebook page and we put it on the website as well

[17:25] » cuz it looks I think I found a 17.2%. >> That's correct. Yeah. Yes sir.

[17:31] » Okay. I I do plan on bringing this as a discussion on September 16th. That is

[17:36] our next meeting that we're scheduled to talk to the commission on for this and

[17:40] » that's his commission bring it to this point. Okay. Thanks Andrew.

[17:46] So right now, you know, it's an opportunity for you all to speak amongst

[17:49] each other and then also just to give me a thumbs up or thumbs down on allocating

[17:53] those funds as I said uh so that they're reserved for that use.

[17:58] » I'm a positive.

[18:02] Yeah, that sounds I mean it's it'd be nothing would be in our case why would

[18:08] we not especially what we have to spend on fixing our own

[18:13] » as you see in the 10-year um plan right now with this little bit of

[18:18] information that we have which is the study that you all did with your sewer

[18:23] and then what we know from the infrastructure that has to get replaced

[18:27] with the water pipes and the water manes we're looking at just around $83 million

[18:33] that has the potential to come away from our funds and move into the special

[18:38] authority for them to take care of. >> Yeah, but that's including shore.

[18:44] » We should kind of in the discussion Yeah. separate that out.

[18:47] » Separating water is water is most important.

[18:53] » We can have in the back of our minds, but it shouldn't intrude on our thinking

[18:56] about water basically. I you know 10 it's 10 10 years out that

[19:02] so yeah positive thumbs up let's proceed and just flush it out see what it comes

[19:07] up with and then we can make decisions from there

[19:09] » okay very good and I know there's commissioner August is online now

[19:16] » commissioner August is online now as well just wanted to make sure

[19:20] » oh I thought that was somebody with you but I was thinking this is the weak part

[19:28] I'm sorry. You look good. >> Hello, Commissioner.

[19:32] » Well, I did get three thumbs up, so I don't know if

[19:36] » you should go like this just to >> Can you Can you hear me?

[19:38] » There we go. >> There we go.

[19:39] » There you go. All right. Thank you. >> Purple.

[19:44] » Any other questions on that issue? >> No.

[19:48] » All right. So, with that, I'll pass out to you um what came in just today. So, I

[19:53] haven't had a chance to review it, but this is the water and wastewater system

[19:56] appraisal. >> You already updated version.

[19:59] » There's another one, sir. >> Oh, since this morning. That's right. I

[20:02] saw you this morning. >> Yeah.

[20:04] » This is the updated one this morning.

[20:08] » So, is there an executive summary somewhere?

[20:10] » I will give you an executive summary, but if you go to page two, there's your

[20:14] executive summary. It's the letter from uh Steven McDonald who is the author.

[20:18] » Okay. >> And so as you can see he's got he has

[20:21] the valuation market valuation including sewer

[20:26] services here at 5,500,000. >> Just the water just the water alone is

[20:32] 4. >> Yeah.

[20:33] » 4 and a half million. Yeah.

[20:38] » Is there anything else that I'm missing Andrew before I move on?

[20:45] Okay, Mr. Mayor, I see somebody raising a hand in the audience. I didn't know if

[20:49] you wanted to address it. It's a workshop, so we don't normally have

[20:52] public to be heard at a workshop. >> Come on, Christine. You want to say

[20:55] something? >> Since you're the only public here, I

[20:59] mean, besides the press. Not saying you're not public.

[21:02] » Christine Schulty at Seven Adams Road. All of a sudden, I I I I've um Where

[21:09] I've been here a long time. Where does this water come to a barrier island

[21:14] where we all live? Where where does it come from?

[21:17] » Comes across where the bridges are. It comes across the inter coastal into

[21:21] feeds into ocean ridge.

[21:24] » So it's it's water from the inter coastal that we're drinking. No

[21:30] pipe goes underneath. >> It comes from Boon.

[21:35] » It comes from Boon. Yeah. That the tower, right? Right. Yeah. But then that

[21:41] water comes from where? In the tower. >> It comes from wells and different places

[21:47] from around.

[21:55] » Right. Right. Okay. All right. I was just wondering, you know. Yes. Yeah.

[21:59] because um um it's it's hard when when [clears throat] personally uh when you

[22:07] have to chlorinate 3 weeks, you know, and and buy bottled water.

[22:13] It's >> Yeah, I I understand. I I understand

[22:17] what you say that I knew, but I was wondering how far away this is water.

[22:23] Thank you very much. You're welcome. So, we need

[22:25] » you brought up the champagne glass. I always curious about that. Is it enough?

[22:29] Where does that serve? >> Yeah, but I mean who like how big an

[22:34] area? >> Andrew, can you come to the micro? Sure.

[22:37] » It's just that this isn't part of the discussion. I'll just go here. So, it's

[22:40] really not an area. It provides um pressure to the system. So, that's what

[22:46] the tower is there for. We do hold water there. We pump it up to the top and then

[22:49] it falls down through there and provides keep static pressure on the system. Then

[22:54] we do have other um storage tanks throughout the city and areas that we

[22:59] pump water into the system. >> So we're not necessarily drinking the

[23:01] water in the champagne glass. It's just pressurizing the water in the pipe.

[23:04] » Some of that water does go into the system. Yes, it does.

[23:07] » And they also have pumps also to correct increase the pressure as well.

[23:12] » Structure. >> Yeah. So if you actually look next to

[23:15] the the champagne glass, there's actually a storage tank, a smaller one,

[23:18] which is which is where we're storing most of the water. So yeah.

[23:22] » Thank you. Right there, >> Mr.

[23:25] » Yeah. No, ever since I've been voting, you see it at night, it's a perfect

[23:28] landmark. Yeah. >> Then you started lighting that up, which

[23:31] was even better. >> Mr. Mack, do you need a letter from the

[23:35] commission or anything from the commission to move forward to break to

[23:38] your commission? >> Yeah.

[23:40] » A little bit over. >> Um, I think actually an email would

[23:43] probably be sufficient. If you could just shoot me an email, kind of recap

[23:47] them what happened, what happened today. >> Sure. Um, and then I can put that as a

[23:50] part of the backup, you know, let them know that we did have some initial talks

[23:53] with you guys and they were positive. Um, so that will help accelerate what

[23:57] we're doing. >> Okay. Very good. I'll send that email on

[24:00] behalf of the what happened today for the commission and that'll get us going.

[24:04] » Look forward to it and we'll be back soon.

[24:07] » Andrew, thank you. >> Thank you, sir. All right. Very good.

[24:09] That's it. Thank you, sir. Have a great day.

[24:12] » Well, you don't want to hear about fast fast facility rentals. [laughter]

[24:17] $50. >> Thank you so much.

[24:20] » Thank you. >> All right. So, the next item up, uh,

[24:25] Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Commissioners is

[24:27] » You don't hear about facilities. >> Enough. Everybody left. Uh, facility

[24:32] rentals. This is just a a nice simple change that we were looking at. One of

[24:36] the concerns with the facility rentals was really just making sure that we

[24:40] cover the cost of keeping the lights on if it's an event that's at night. So,

[24:44] there was some discussion about um how to make it easier for the the few groups

[24:48] that we allow to use it, but um it started to get over complicated as we

[24:53] were trying to make it easy. You know how that goes. And so here, instead of

[24:57] it being $10, I'm asking to change the fee from $10 an hour to $50 for the

[25:02] event itself. And $20 for all other uses that are approximately an hour or less

[25:09] than two hours. So all of the uses I mean like HOAs that want to have their

[25:13] meetings here that's what we're speaking about and we've narrowed the categories

[25:17] down to simply the HOAs or the POAS and then the clubs that you have or civic

[25:22] organizations that you have identified as partners with the community and those

[25:27] are the only ones that we're looking to partner with and that would be Starbrite

[25:31] Garden Club um and anything else that you bring forward and recognize with us.

[25:36] The turtle people recognize the turtle people,

[25:39] » they're not really a civic court. >> Yeah.

[25:45] » Yeah. And the reason >> Well, I don't I mean to me it's very

[25:47] reasonable. >> Yeah, absolutely.

[25:49] » I mean, >> we agree.

[25:51] » Inexpensive. [clears throat] >> Everything else is going to remain the

[25:53] same, which means that if they want to uh have police coverage or if they want

[25:57] to have someone set up or, you know, or break down for them, then those are a

[26:01] little extra, but we haven't changed what the that extra is. So it'll remain

[26:04] the same at $75 for public works person to be able to break down and set up and

[26:10] then the same fees for whatever at that you know whatever year it is what the

[26:14] fee is for a minimum of three hours for a police officer should they need

[26:17] detail. >> And you've discussed all these with

[26:19] Stella. >> Yeah. And the volunteers I want to make

[26:23] sure she's not mad. Well, you know, there was a discussion and we started

[26:26] with the discussion of um you know, potentially $300 like a membership fee

[26:32] that you would charge each one of the civic groups and then allow them to have

[26:37] a certain amount of >> uh opportunities to come during the

[26:41] course of the year. >> Yeah. Then you constantly have to to

[26:44] write it down or put it on a computer and make sure you keep track of it.

[26:48] » Right. So, in our in our quest to simplify it, it really just became over

[26:53] complicated. That's so It's easy as you go,

[26:55] » right? So, if I said to them, look, you got to pay $300 for the for the year,

[27:00] then they'll want to definitely make sure they get the $300 worth. They may

[27:04] come six times a year or eight times a year, but if it's $50, they'll come when

[27:07] they need it. That's it. >> And was there any discussion about

[27:10] limiting the number of times like >> Yeah.

[27:12] » once a month or >> I don't I we we really haven't been in a

[27:16] situation where it's been a conflict yet. Okay. Unless you all know something

[27:19] more. I >> I think there was one group that had two

[27:22] things in it >> but that was unneutral.

[27:26] » So I only have one question under use conditions which is page 18 of 19. Uh

[27:31] the first one the facilities are unsuitable for and shall not be provided

[27:35] for major private social events such as wedding banquetss, birthday

[27:39] celebrations, anniversary parties, retirement parties, political

[27:42] fundraising or campaign events and other similar events. I think we should just

[27:46] agree that it's at the town manager's discretion

[27:50] about what other similar events are. Somebody might come up with something

[27:54] not thinking of it. You go, "Oh, >> yes. I think it I think it falls into

[27:57] that category." Yeah. I would I would be the determining factor and if they

[28:02] didn't agree with it, they'd have to come back to you. You know, for

[28:04] instance, we had someone who wanted to have a a baby shower.

[28:07] » It's just, you know, it's not what it's not what we're here for to have a baby

[28:11] shower. >> That's the same law. We should wait a

[28:14] minute. >> There's a lovely

[28:16] » if somebody wants to pay a thousand bucks to use the tunnel.

[28:19] » There's a lovely facility right up the street at the city hall in front of city

[28:22] hall in Boon Beach. And you know those those rooms there are are well priced.

[28:26] So I I don't feel like we're not providing a service. We're just

[28:31] » variety >> or that houses.

[28:33] » That's a great >> They have a nice club down there.

[28:35] » Nice. Yeah. >> We just have to know what we have to

[28:38] know what we are. We have to know what our limitations are. That's all. How we

[28:41] doing on spine? 329. >> Perfect.

[28:45] » Okay. >> So, we're all on board with the U

[28:47] facility, right? >> Yep. All right. Good.

[28:51] » That's all I needed from you today. Is there anything? What I'd like you to do

[28:54] is I'm sending uh to the the commissioners that are not here right

[28:59] now and to you all. I'll send you the budget draft document digitally so you

[29:04] can review it and look at it and let me know if you like the formatting or if

[29:08] you want something changed before September 14th. Right now it's still a

[29:11] live and breathing document. We might have some changes between now and then

[29:14] but I don't anticipate anything large. It might be a thousand here, a thousand

[29:17] there where we find a mistake but at this point in time um it looks ready for

[29:23] your review. >> Right.

[29:24] » Okay. >> Right. If nothing else say meeting

[29:27] ajourned. >> Thank you.

[29:28] » Thank you very much. >> Thank you.

[29:32] » Bigger P.

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