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This is a regular city council meeting of the City of Ocean Shores. It is September
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22, 2026, and the time is 6:00 p.m. The meeting is being held at the Ocean Shores
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Convention Center. The meetings are simulcast and archived on KOSW radio. Meetings
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are live streamed and closed captioning with closed captioning and may be accessed
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on the city website under council recordings. The meetings will be Viewed on cable
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channel 68 Thursdays at 12:00 p.m. and Sundays at 10:00 a.m. We have a roll call,
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please? Council member sires here. Council member Taylor here. Council member Grebel
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here. Council member Klein here. Council member Scott. Council member Wills here.
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Council member Julie here. Tom, can you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, please?
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To the
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One nation.
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Can I get approval for tonight's agenda? Yes, Denise. I move to amend the agenda
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to remove item number 15, the executive session. Second Do we have a second, uh,
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any, uh, comments? All in favor? Aye. All right, thank you. Unanimous,
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um, I move to approve. I move to approve the agenda as amended. Second, all in favor.
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All right, thank you. All of. In favor All right. Uh, we don't have any ceremonies
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or proclamations. Uh, no announcements. We have a board and committee vacancies,
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2 vacancies on the radio board, 2 vacancies on the building code board of appeals,
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2 vacancies on the parks board, and 1 vacancy on the planning commission. There are
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no appointments tonight. No other reports, so we'll move right into public communication.
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Public communication to councils intended for communication to the city council regarding
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general council business or policy not on tonight's agenda. Address comments or questions
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to the city council body, not to an individual council member, staff, or audience
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member. Please limit your comments to 3 minutes. This is not a question and answer
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time, and the council cannot engage in conversation with the public. Personal attacks,
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abusive language, slanderous remarks, or disruptive behavior will not be tolerated.
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If any If another audience member is disrupting you, please raise your hand, and
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I will pause the meeting and address the disruption. No person may use the public
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comment, period, for the purpose of a campaign or advertisement. The time will begin
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once the citizen has started their public comment. At 2 minutes, you will see a green
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light followed by a yellow light indicating 30 seconds remain in the public comment
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period. The red light will notify the reader that the public comment time has ended.
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So, uh, what do we got, Scott? Alright, we have 3 that are general public comments
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tonight. The first, Tom Hamilton, duty, honor, and sacrifice.
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Tom Hamilton, Ocean Shores. Recently, the city had the honor of hosting the memorial
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for our fallen heroes. Cost of Freedom Tribute, including Vietnam War, 9/11 tribute,
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and Global War on Terror. What a great opportunity for the citizens to experience
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this moving exhibit. I first had the opportunity to visit the Vietnam Wall in our
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nation's capital 40 years ago. It's a powerful memorial to my fallen brothers and
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sisters. I want to give a, a, I want to give a public shout out to Stephanie Cobb.
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For bringing together a group of veterans and grateful citizens that gathered on
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Point Brown. With a flag salute honor our guard during the opening parade. She took
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the initiative to purchase the flags and encourage people to come out and participate.
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Lined up on the same locations, the weekly protests that are held on Point Brown,
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Vietnam and other veterans. Individuals who for 60 years have protested against injustice
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and against the war, and others stood for more than an hour holding more than 20
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flags along both sides of the parade route to honor this memorial. These are also
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among the same people who on a weekly basis protest against the injustices that they
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see today in our republic. They understand the sacrifices our sisters and brothers
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made so that they can exercise their freedom of speech, a freedom.
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Speech that this city administration wanted to take away or at the very least restrict
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with an ordinance a few months ago. It is unfortunate that the city administration
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missed an opportunity to include the local veterans in its own flag tribute on Point
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Brown. Instead, they ignored the chance for a more inclusive flag line, first asking
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Ms. Cobb to participate and then abandoning when she could provide many veterans.
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Only using paid city employees on the clock, not even providing each with a full-sized
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flag, at least two waving tiny flags, including the mayor. Shame on the city for
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not wanting to be inclusive. The veterans and protesters who understood the sacrifices
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that our fallen heroes made fully grasp the patriotic duty. Thank you to Stephanie
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Cobb and all those who took part.
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Katie Wallace, Public Arts.
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Hi, I'm Katie Wallace. I've lived here in Ocean Shores about more than 10 years now,
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and I'm here today to talk about public art. Um, when I first saw the whale out in
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the median, I was so excited. I thought we're gonna see public art here everywhere
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and we'll, we'll have more opportunity for that. Um, we have hundreds of artists
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here in Ocean Shores, so many of them, and of all sorts of different medias.
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Uh, but, and we keep asking in this town, what is our identity? What should it be?
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I think like beachy art town, it has worked for a ton of other towns that
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That are tourist towns and I think that should be part of our identity and we're
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already adopting that. Um, however, as much as I love to see the wood carvings. Um,
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there's other forms of media out there. I have a lot of ideas. Um, some of them are,
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we have a metal arts guy in town. I don't know if you've seen his work at the garage
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or over at Oakhead, but it's beautiful and that could be something that we would
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do. Oh, sorry, that, that could be something we could do, um, a giant metal arts
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display. Uh, we have Gavin Miller who used to live here, who's done some mural artistry
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here. Um, he's wonderful. Uh, we could do some more murals, uh. Some other ideas.
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We could make a giant screen here in the convention center and display all of our
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uh wonderful photographers like Skip Bradcliffe and Matt Cifer and TK Ramsey, make
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a giant thing. Skip could make a frame for it with his woodwork and that would help
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promote the nature and the beauty of ocean shores as well. Uh. Uh, we have Gina McCauley.
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She makes little felting things, but we, we could have her make a giant black bear
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and put it out there. You know, the lobby of the convention center. These are just
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a few of my ideas. I'm sure that the um artists here have many, many more. Um, and
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right now I don't know who gets to choose the art here and if the artists are being
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paid or not and any information that I've tried to get so far nobody really knows
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who's, who's choosing it. Um, the arts commission is kind of falling apart. So, um,
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on that note, I think the city council should try to make an actual arts board that
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meets and chooses and starts projects that we could do here in Ocean Shores. Um,
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That way, everyone chooses and more artists will get exposure. Um And we could
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start more, more festivals, work some of these things into the festivals like maybe
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we have giant ducks at the jeep thing that people paint. I don't know. Anyways, um,
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I, I think that that would be time. Thank you.
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OK, then lastly for general public comment, Taylor Priest, transparency, art, and
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traps.
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Thank you, Mayor and council members for this time. My name is Taylor Priest. I've
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been a Shores resident for about 8 years. And I'd like to start with a quote this
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evening by Joseph Pulitzer. There is not a crime, not a dodge, there is not a trick,
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there is not a swindle, there is not a vice which does not live by secrecy. It is
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high time for a new mayor in Ocean Shores, one who practices transparency and respects
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the democratic process, rather than one who thinks democracy is owned by one political
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party. For all his talk of being nonpartisan, Frank Elderwin is anything but, and
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people on both sides of the aisle are well aware. People in shores who participate
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less need to be aware and beware. It seems that Mayor Eldwin has plans to place a
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statue of Poseidon, whose design is entirely inappropriate for ocean shores, at the
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north gate. Citizens have had no input into this, but they certainly should. Why
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is the artwork purchased and by the city and displayed here chosen by the very partisan
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mayor Frank Aldwin alone? Scott Anderson has stood in front of this body and boldly,
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I believe, knowingly lied about the trapping ordinance which absolutely allows whatever
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kind of contraption the trapper decides to use, including one that will kill the
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animal. It's in the ordinance. What Scott is keeping hidden is that this ordinance
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sets up the fox to watch the chicken house. The WCO, who is in charge of making sure
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sufficient preventative measures have been taken, only gets paid if they trap an
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animal. For these problems, William O. Douglas left these perfect words Sunlight
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is the best disinfectant.
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That concludes public comment. Next up we have a city administrator's report by Scott
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Anderson. Pardon me, I'm gonna do, uh, two things cause I'm gonna have to audible
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one and be prepared because I have absolutely no notes for it. So I'll just do this.
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Uh, so the first one is Ocean Forest Freshwaterways, and this I do have notes for.
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Uh, I live on, uh, the Bell Canals, and I just wanna briefly address the conditions
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of our freshwaterways. Um, I, I understand that we had a really, really beautiful
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waterway system up until the last few weeks. And this, we haven't had rain, uh, it's
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getting dry. And so I understand some of the firsthand concerns that are being expressed
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by our, by our residents. Uh, the waterways and the ocean shores are one of the things
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that make us absolutely unique. And when I bought a home on Ocean Shores, I, I made
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sure it was on the waterways themselves, so I could take advantage of this. Uh, I
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wanna emphasize the city has been working actively. To improve the health and quality
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of our freshwater systems in partnerships with our Freshwater Waste Advisory Board
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and its engaged community members, and the city has undertaken a number of efforts,
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including installing aerators to improve oxygenation and circulation, uh, conducting
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aquatic vegetation harvesting, implementing methods to reduce the car population,
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and is working to reduce phosphorus levels within our waterways. Uh, these efforts
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reflect an ongoing commitment to improving our water system. I also wanna say a shout
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out to our Freshwater Waste Advisory Board, which in my time of being here I believe
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is one of the most active and productive boards we've ever had in the city. So I
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really thank all the work they do. Now, currently we are responding to cyanobacteria
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or blue-green algae, uh, that's blooming in our canals. Uh, we're not alone in this
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section across Western Washington. You're seeing this. Uh, samples have been submitted
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for laboratory testing, and we expect these toxin results to come in on Friday, and
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appropriate warning signs have been posted at public docks and boat launches. Uh,
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until those results are received, however, we're asking everyone to use caution and
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when in doubt, stay out. Uh, avoid water with visible algae, keep children and pets
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away from affected water, and do not drink untreated surface water. There is no single
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or immediate solution to maintaining a freshwater system of this size. Uh, our approach
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must continue to be collaborative, science-based, and focused on long term improvement,
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and the city will continue working alongside not only the Fresh Waterways Advisory
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Board. But Herrera and some of our appropriate experts that we utilized uh to strengthen
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and maintain uh our this important asset to our community. So that's Freshwaterways
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update, uh, this one I'm just gonna ad lib because um I've been working on it all
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day today and since it got brought up, it was about, uh, the arts and ocean shores
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and what some of the things that we're doing. So some of the things may not even
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be known, uh, and I was gonna announce this actually at the next meeting because
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I just didn't want to get announced too much ahead of time. But, um, some of the,
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some of the art mediums that we're working on are with film. And we have entered
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into a sort of a partnership with uh Dark and Stormy Productions, which is trying
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to market Ocean Shores, and I'll try to get this all in as a destination to both
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shoot films. Um, and to highlight films and to bring in production companies, we
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have a lot of advantages that people don't have in places like California and that
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because you can actually drive right out to our beach and shoot. We've got some kind
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of esoteric landscape around us, and they're sort of been pushing this vehicle and
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they've received LTAC funding for their film. They have a film festival that's coming
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up, so I'd like to announce that the.
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Dark and Stormy Film Fest will be at our Ocean Shore Cinema, and that will be on
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Saturday, October 17th, uh, and October 18th. They're gonna have a lot of neat like
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avant-garde horror films. Uh, before that, the evening before, they're gonna have
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the Rocky Shore Rocky Horror Picture Show, uh, on the 16th, and it's just kind of
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a fun way to sort of bring the community together through film. We also have our
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first commitment we've been working on this with the producers of a film that's gonna
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be called Neverland. Uh, and it's sort of based on Peter Pan. Uh, the, the production
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company is a legitimate real production company. They're gonna be hiring about 100
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extras. They're gonna be, first of all, staying in Ocean Shores for a number of days,
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which obviously brings in revenue to our city, but we're gonna have 100 extras for
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like a pirate fightout they're gonna have on the beach, Neverland as it pertains
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to Peter Pan. It's about him as an adult. Um, so if you have your pirate costumes
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and you want to be a part of that, they are looking for additional, uh, volunteers.
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Uh, that can participate in that photo shoot. But the whole idea is to kind of cast
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Ocean Shores as a quirky, unusual place to do some avant-garde filming where we haven't
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been on the map before. And if we can get this film festival going, and we can get
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some production companies to come in, uh, we have a lot of kind of ideas that we
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hope would grow long term. One of the things we sort of talked about today, today,
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and by, I don't think anyone knows this sitting at the table, including the mayor.
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Um, because it was just kind of a collaborative discussion we're having would be
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something like we're talking about, I need to talk to the Freshwater Waste Advisory
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Board and others, but something called Canalloween. And it would be 2 days before
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Halloween, the nights before, we would decorate some of the canals. Anyone who wants
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to put out, you know, their horror artifacts and their lighting or their, and then
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we would be able to give like boat tours through the Canal Brothers or anyone private
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like the Ocean Shores Yacht Club. That would do that would just be a kind of a fun
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thing to do in the October months. It would bring our community together, uh, and
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add some art and some public participation to some of the things we have here, uh,
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which might be fun. I don't know if we're gonna have time to get it off the ground
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this year, um, but we may, uh, it would be a fun thing, but I need to have work with
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a bunch of collaborative partners to do that. So we are trying to market Ocean Shores
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the best we can as an artsy touristy destination, and, uh, like I said, this is off
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the cuff, but I'll have more to come on that. So thank you.
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All right, thanks. Next up, we got a 2027 General Fund Preliminary revenue estimate,
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RCW 35A.33.135, and that'll be presented by our finance director, Sarah Logan.
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Good evening. So in your, uh, agenda packet tonight, you received what's the 2027
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preliminary general fund revenue estimates. And what we just did on this, uh, is
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summarize kind of our revenue stream and how it's coming in, in anticipation for
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2027. Um, the last, well, as long as I've ever known, we haven't done this piece
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as a part of the budget, and it is a RCW and a statutory requirement. They typically
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just will bring the levy documents and call it even because those are the ones that
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have to be turned into the county. However, In order for all of you to review our
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operational budgets, you need to see what our revenues are specifically for the general
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funds. So in your agenda packet, there's just a summary, and then I've kind of written
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out what that summary goes over and I'll just read it off and then if you have questions
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for it, we'll go over those. Uh, tonight we have presented the preliminary 2027 general
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fund revenue estimates in the council's agenda packet. Again, a part of RCW 35A 33.
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The city is required to develop these estimates of anticipated revenues and expenditures
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and present a budget that provides council with a clear understanding of the resources
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available to support city operations. The preliminary forecast that you see tonight
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is currently projecting 2027 at 0.5% lower than 2026, which anybody that Uh, council
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member Greble and schools, council member Scott and the municipality all know that
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that's kind of the trend right now. Several major general fund revenue sources are
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either declining or projected to remain relatively flat. Sales tax collections through
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July of 26 are approximately 5% below 2025. B&O tax has been affected by the closure,
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specifically to the Shiloh because that was a huge B&O tax revenue. Uh, permit related
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revenues have declined from their 2024 peak, and changes for services have experienced
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a downward trend for several years. We have talked in length for the last year and
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a half at finance committee if anybody from the audience or council follows along
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with those. Uh, about these and specifically to the building and permitting, we are
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coming way out of our building boom and going back to 2018's numbers. And those you
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can see in our Our archives, I mean they all show them there. The forecast also reflects
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the absence of significant one-time revenues that supported prior years. For example,
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2025 included nearly 2.2 million in the Department of Commerce erosion repairs grant
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revenue. That grant revenue went directly into our general fund. We don't see that
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now, even though it was an expenditure, we were able to project that into our previous
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budget because we knew that that grant had been awarded and we were receiving it.
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While the current 2027 estimate contains one time state revenue, in addition, the
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previous six years have included federal ARPA funding that is no longer available
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to the city. We have utilized those and we have, uh, closed out our federal grant
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process, so we're all done with those. Uh, those prior years therefore should not
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be viewed as a representative of the city's reoccurring general fund revenue capacity
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going forward. Another significant factor is the city's correction of its cost allocation
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methodology for enterprise and other funds. I have spoken about this in great length.
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Uh, the finance committee, along with the finance department have worked diligently
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in 25 and 26. Historically, others made up this process much more complicated than
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it needed to be, uh, but it seemed a little intentional on why they did it that way.
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Uh, money would.
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Come from the enterprise funds, moved to the shared utility fund, then moved to the
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general fund, then ultimately some of the money would allocate back to the enterprise
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funds sometimes. Uh, we referred in finance to that as the money swirl because it
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was, uh, essentially moving dollars from one fund to another and then moving some
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of those dollars back sometimes and again rarely ever, um. So we've corrected that
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as you all know instead of moving those funds through multiple funds, the enterprise
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funds are assessed their appropriate share costs which all the council received and
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has been online and in our finance committees our cost allocation plan that was updated.
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Uh, those amounts are credited directly to the general fund, which will reflect in
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its own section of the budget the finance committee has already seen. So, uh, instead
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of seeing how you would have in years past and, uh, to council members that have
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been on here for years and years, you would just see continuous transfers in and
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transfers out, transfers in and transfers out, and it's a section like this big and
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the narrative of, of what's happening. And there's no more calculating depreciation
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and basing more indirect transfers off of that. So, uh, the biggest point I want
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to emphasize to council, this is not simply a 0.5% revenue decline story. It's about
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establishing a corrected financial baseline after removing accounting effects and
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one-time revenues that can make prior years appear stronger than the city's ongoing
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operational position. This gives council and staff a more realistic picture of what
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reoccurring revenues can substantiate support moving forward. The expectation of
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the city staff and the mayor and city administrator. Given this financial outlook,
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the expectation for all department heads in 27 will be to exercise significant spending
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restraints specific to the general fund. And focus expenditures on essential operational
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needs. Departments will be expected to work diligently to reduce discretionary spending,
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defer purchases when reasonably possible, and carefully evaluate whether expenditures
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are necessary during 2027 budget year. The primary exception will be public works
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capital and infrastructure projects. Where dedicated funding levels are uh sufficient
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to support the work, where appropriate funding is available and the city should continue
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moving those projects forward rather than unnecessarily delaying needed infrastructure
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investment. Specifically because we did the cost allocation correction and the general
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fund isn't subsidizing more than it should have ever subsidized out of the rate paid
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enterprise funds, the enterprise funds are now healthy and can deal with our infrastructure
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and our maintenance. And so that's what, while we heal our general fund, that's what
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we'll focus on in 27 is specific our water infrastructure, sewer infrastructure,
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and our road maintenance. Uh, a road maintenance, and I say that that is general
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fun, but the storm system and the road maintenance that's available to do during
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that will be a big portion, and I'm sure the public works director will talk more
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about that later. Additionally, the departments are now told they will not rely on
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general fund to finance everything that they want current, ongoing, or future. Each
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department head will be expected to actively identify, pursue, and obtain available
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grant funding for departmental programs, equipment, capital. Improvements and other
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needs wherever grant opportunities are available. Grant funding should become an
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integral part of the departmental planning rather than being viewed as a supplemental
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effort after a need has already arisen, as the council knows, we've spent a great
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deal of time and success, uh, um, to Tim, Tim's success on public works grant projects
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while no other department has looked for any grants specific to their departments,
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which is a. Uh, quasi overlook on our part, um, and they can do way better. Fire
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used to write their own grants. Police used to write their own grants, finance. Uh,
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even the city clerk's office that I oversee, we got our grants for scanning and what
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have you by looking for them on our own because we know what to look for. I kind
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of tried to tell them to treat it like unemployment, like if you haven't looked for
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3 grants this week. You don't get paid tomorrow. Like, so it's a joke. It's on record.
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It's a joke. God knows what all the comment will be. The goal for 2027 is not to
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simply reduce spending from the general fund, allowing it time to heal and build.
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It is to align ongoing expenditures with a substantial reoccurring revenues while
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protecting essential city services and continue. And responsible investments in our
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infrastructure. The primary revenue estimates are being presented now, so the the
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council and department heads have this information before expenditure decisions are
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made and can approach the 2027 budget with shared understanding to the city's actual
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financial capacity. With that being said. As you go through the operational budget,
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you will see requests specifically from the public works director and not so much
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requests from those that are generated or paid out of the general fund. We are going
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to try and find other avenues and allow our general fund to build back up, uh, while
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we work on our infrastructure at the same time with the, um. I'm excited because
[28:09]
those are the funds that aren't being allocated that then demand a rate increase
[28:13]
later. So, that's the preliminary 2027. Money. OK,
[28:21]
um, Scott, you had something? Yeah, I had 30 seconds more and it wasn't on yours,
[28:25]
so I don't know if you were you gonna have council questions first or, OK, so go
[28:29]
ahead and you do council questions and I'll go back to mine. Right. Questions? Yes,
[28:34]
go ahead, Lisa Scott. I just wanna say thank you so much. I'm so glad we're moving
[28:38]
to an annual basis, and it, you've cleaned it up so much, and that's exactly what
[28:43]
we asked for, and it's, for me, at least, it's very transparent, and it's easier
[28:48]
to understand. So, thank you, and uh I'm glad that the enterprise funds are, are
[28:54]
getting figured out. Thank you.
[28:57]
Right. Any other questions? I guess we don't have any other questions. I guess, go
[29:03]
ahead, Scott. All right, I said this is the problem in ad libbing things, um, I forgot
[29:08]
the important part, uh, or one of the important parts. Monday the 28th on Evening
[29:12]
magazine King 5.
[29:21]
7:30, uh, that's what they were down here filming today. This is one of the reasons
[29:25]
I was working with them and, uh, so you're gonna see something kind of stormy spooky
[29:29]
ocean shores. Uh, we're gonna be focusing on the Celtic Music Fest, uh, on the Katala.
[29:35]
Um, we're gonna be looking at, uh, some of the other things on our canals. We got
[29:38]
some great video of our canals and how spooky they are at night. But I also wanna
[29:42]
say this ties into like a bigger tourism strategy that we have. One of the things
[29:46]
that George and I are always discussing is that it's very easy to promote ocean shores
[29:50]
in the spring and the summer. Uh, it gets more difficult to find activities and what
[29:55]
we've always called them fallen back on is, is clam digging and storm watching in
[29:59]
the winter. But I think there's more to the ocean shore story to that. And I think
[30:03]
by bringing in the arts and bringing in sort of more of an avant-garde film community,
[30:07]
uh, we can help focus on that. So it's one of the things we're doing. And then I
[30:11]
do not know if this was discussed cause I, uh, had the privilege of being in Japan
[30:16]
for the last kind of two weeks until now, where my daughter has been going to school,
[30:20]
uh, and studying Japanese. But I did want to let you know that work on the sand.
[30:24]
It's actually beginning really in earnest. And just in case it wasn't said, the Shiloh
[30:28]
has been sold. So everyone knows and work has already started on that. And that ties
[30:32]
into everything that George and I and everyone in this community that's working on
[30:36]
marketing and engaging the city, uh, are, are doing because that is our flagship
[30:41]
hotel. It's the flagship hotel for this convention center, and I'm really happy that
[30:46]
sooner rather than later, we will have the sands back.
[30:51]
The shy low back. See, I guess I may be strong jet lag. Sorry. Well, we'll be getting
[30:57]
the sands back too, so that's good. All right, uh, next we got council liaison reports
[31:04]
and we'll start with, uh, Kurt Dooley.
[31:09]
I attended the Public Safety Committee meeting and signed warrants. All right, thanks,
[31:16]
Richard. None of my liaison committees met since the last council meeting, so I have
[31:20]
no report. Thank you. All right, Lisa Scott, ditto on that. We do have finance, uh,
[31:27]
committee meeting on the 24th and public works on the 28th of this month. All right,
[31:33]
uh, Denise Sires. I attended a gender review. I signed warrants. Uh, Lisa mentioned
[31:40]
we do have finance upcoming on this Thursday and, uh, for the public who's interested,
[31:45]
we do delve deeper into the budget at that particular committee. Uh, LTAC is coming
[31:52]
up for the 2027, uh, start of request and that's on October 6th and the
[31:59]
council budget study session. That was uh scheduled for this coming Saturday, September
[32:06]
26th, has been rescheduled to November 10th prior to council, so we have uh more
[32:14]
information. Right, thanks, Allison. I signed warrants. I attended the Public
[32:21]
Safety Committee meeting, agenda setting, and our ad hoc committee for your home,
[32:27]
our city, and then I had a training session with about half of the members in the
[32:33]
pool for the ethics committee, and we'll be setting up a training for those who are
[32:39]
unable to attend. For that, and then I have finance coming up this week and public
[32:45]
works next week. All right, thanks, Lisa agreeable. Thank you, Mayor. I attended
[32:51]
our ad hoc committee meeting. All right. Tom Taylor. I
[32:59]
attended, um, public safety. And uh got some news on that. Um, one of the clerk that
[33:06]
they're hiring. Is
[33:11]
That report's coming up. OK, yeah. All right, thank you. All right, so we're gonna
[33:16]
move on to council ad hoc committees, and, uh, this is, uh, your home, our city ad
[33:21]
hoc committee report, and that's presented by council member Lisa Grebel. Thank you
[33:26]
Mayor. Our committee met and interestingly enough, the public comment tonight and
[33:32]
our city administrator's report both tied into our committee meeting. Our discussion
[33:38]
was how can we promote our city to be welcoming and. Inclusive of everyone who lives
[33:45]
here and visits here and the what we landed on was a a way to do that was through
[33:52]
art and public art and the conversation was how could we develop a clear way of um
[33:59]
commissioning art. Determining what the budget is for community art, different mediums
[34:06]
that could be reflected and making sure that we're spreading that community art around
[34:11]
to a variety of artists and so we talked about having some, uh, lots of cities do
[34:17]
public art. Tests that uh the local artists submit ideas and and how what the art
[34:25]
would be what while the city has a theme for that and so that's what we talked about
[34:29]
and we'll I'll talk about that later at um future agenda items for perhaps having
[34:34]
that as a discussion. All right, thank you. Uh, salary review ad hoc committee, and
[34:42]
that'll be presented uh by Alison Klein. We met the uh council member Julie
[34:49]
Wells and myself met and reviewed all of the documents that HR had provided for us
[34:56]
and we have made recommendations to the mayor. All right, thank you. Um, next, uh,
[35:04]
consent agenda. Can I get a motion to approve? Yes, salad, um. Motion to approve
[35:11]
the consent agenda. 2nd. All right, all in favor? All right, thank you. Unanimous.
[35:20]
All right, we'll move on to the finance standing Committee. We have a resolution
[35:25]
of the city council of the city of Ocean Shores, Washington repealing and replacing
[35:29]
resolution number 760 establishing a plan for disposal and sale of accumulated beach
[35:37]
approach sand, and that'll be. Presented by our public works director, Ricardo Victoriano.
[35:45]
Uh, good evening, counsel. So what I have for you is The oh, I'm missing a page here
[35:53]
we go. All right, so, uh, in the past we've done these sand halls, um, I'm not sure
[35:58]
how the price was set historically, uh, but what I did was, uh, kind of what we do
[36:04]
for, um, you know, establishing rates for meter installs and everything like that
[36:09]
and make sure that we're not losing money on, you know, our typical work and things
[36:14]
where it's just a set price and, you know, we use our work orders to, uh, just double
[36:19]
check that and make sure that we're. Not, um, you know, being negligent in that,
[36:24]
that, uh, Case, but so what I used was uh FEMA equipment rates uh for charging our
[36:32]
our uh. Let me see, is there a In the back of the section of the agenda packet here,
[36:40]
section 9, we have a work order that I drafted for um. It'll be an equipment operator
[36:47]
and a spotter in a truck there to make sure that the contractors have tickets and
[36:52]
make sure that they're staying in an orderly line, no one's doing anything dangerous
[36:55]
and, you know, going up into the staging area without being asked to do so. Uh, and
[37:00]
so we're billing a pickup truck. It'll be a 4 wheel drive half ton pickup truck and
[37:05]
then a front loader to load the sand, um. And so kind of one full bucket of our front
[37:12]
loader is about 3 yards of sand and so that's what we're basing it on is uh 2 minutes
[37:16]
to load one full bucket of sand, uh, divide that by 3, charge that out per yard,
[37:21]
um, so this work order is a total of 1027 for 3 yards, divide that by 3 and that
[37:27]
gave us the price that we put in for 342 per cubic yard.
[37:35]
And that's about double at least of what we were charging before on that. So what
[37:40]
was going on prior to me getting here was the fact that uh the guys would get loaded
[37:46]
up with sand and then they drive by the office and tell us how much sand they. Cook
[37:53]
And um we changed that now where they gotta pay ahead of time for a ticket. Ticket
[37:58]
goes to one of Ricky's guys, and then they load them up. And so we got better control,
[38:03]
and we'll be uh receiving better funds out of that effort. So, that's, that's what's
[38:08]
going on.
[38:13]
So council discussion. We got any questions for him? Yes, Richard. Do you have any
[38:19]
idea around ballpark figures how much revenue the sale of sand it should bring in,
[38:25]
may bring in? Uh, just because it hasn't, it's only been tracked once. I don't know,
[38:29]
you know, it could just be that we haven't done it in, I think, a year or two, but,
[38:33]
you know, we get double the turnout than we did last year, so I, I don't think I
[38:36]
could responsibly make an estimate. You know, at, at $10 a, a, a scoop, uh, you know,
[38:45]
Just a wild guess. Do we sell 100 scoops? Do we sell 3 scoops? Wild guess. Yeah,
[38:50]
so it, it, it's really different every time we get a good mix of contractors and
[38:54]
private homeowners that will come out and want a trailer loaded up or a truck bed,
[38:58]
and so, um. I, I would have to look at, at what the revenue was last year and, and
[39:04]
base it off that. Not worth it. Thank you. Yeah, Richard, what, um, what kind of
[39:10]
Makes that uh popular with the contractors is how many houses we have going in, and
[39:15]
housing is slowing down on that. So, um, It's, it's hard to say. We stopped for the
[39:22]
last couple of years because of the berm issues, and we did not wanna run out of
[39:27]
sand if we needed sand, so we sat on that for a couple of years. Now we've got more
[39:31]
than enough. Um, yeah, go ahead and then Kurt. My, my, my comment is. This is not
[39:39]
gonna be a big revenue for the city, but I'm actually very glad that we are taking
[39:44]
control of, and it's just not a free for all and giving it away. I promise I only
[39:49]
got one bucket. So, thank you. Go ahead, Kurt. Just to clarify, we're, we're only
[39:56]
trying to recoup costs, not make a profit, right? OK, thank you. It doesn't hurt
[40:01]
to make a little bit. Yes, go ahead, Lisa. Um, I'd like to go ahead and make a motion
[40:08]
to, uh, pass the resolution of the city council.
[40:13]
Thank you. Sorry, we jumped to council questions, so sorry. Yeah, somebody changed
[40:20]
the order on this thing on me. Um, do you got any other questions down at this end
[40:25]
of the table? No? Any others? Oh, go ahead, Denise. I, I just wanted to comment with
[40:31]
a, a big thank you. Uh, it is so nice to see actual, uh, time and material analysis.
[40:39]
Um, it, it, it, it's amazing compared to the way it was done in the past. So thank
[40:44]
you.
[40:46]
All right. If we have no other council comments or questions, we'll go to public
[40:50]
comment. Any public comment out there? Yes, go ahead. Yeah, go to the mic, please.
[41:09]
Sylvia Fain here. I'm just wondering, I've, I've kind of heard about this before,
[41:15]
but I really never knew about it. So we sell sta sand to residents, if, if they wanna
[41:22]
buy it. Like, is it a specific weekend or something, or is it specific days and
[41:31]
It's uh Ricky, it's you can't answer me. That's right. I'm sorry. Anyway, I would
[41:37]
like to know, um, Yeah, you know, how this works, when it works, uh, it's
[41:44]
never really been. I, I mean, maybe people that are really active here know about
[41:51]
it, but I don't think the community has known that much about it, so. If you're selling
[41:56]
sand, I wanna know about it.
[42:01]
Any other uh comments out there? Yes, go ahead.
[42:20]
I'm Medina Ridge. I have nothing to do with the sand. Um, I remember a few weeks
[42:26]
ago I read that, um, a lot of corners had a problem with gravel being all messed
[42:33]
up from whatever the case may be. Um, that we're talking about the sand purchase.
[42:39]
We can't talk about anything else, right? That should have been done during public
[42:44]
comment, general public comment. OK, I'm sorry. That's fine.
[42:50]
Anybody uh out there wanna talk about the sand purchasing? I don't see any Richard,
[42:58]
so just uh for clarification. If a homeowner wants a couple of scoops of sand, you
[43:05]
know, 36 yards of sand, that's a purchase. If I want 25 gallon buckets of sand, am
[43:10]
I breaking the law if I go down to the beach and scoop up 25 gallon buckets? That's,
[43:15]
uh, yeah, so I mean we're, we're not gonna have anyone out there with buckets while
[43:19]
we have equipment on the beach. That's, that's not my question. So am I breaking
[43:23]
the law because I just, hey Richard, uh, Rick, Ricky's not really, uh, um. Ready
[43:30]
to make that kind of a determination. Legal question if you want a legal answer for
[43:35]
that, email me and I'll get you one. Thank you. All right.
[43:40]
Lisa, did you wanna go ahead now?
[43:45]
I'd like to go ahead and make a motion to approve the resolution of the City Council
[43:49]
of the City of Ocean Shores, Washington, repealing and replacing resolution number
[43:54]
760, establishing a plan for the disposal and sale of accumulated beach approach
[44:00]
sand. Second,
[44:04]
All right. Any other comments from the council on that? All right, I guess not. Let's
[44:08]
go ahead and vote. All in favor? Aye. All right, unanimous. Thank you. Thank you.
[44:13]
Thanks, Ricky.
[44:16]
All right. Uh, next, uh, public, uh, safety standing Committee. Um, Report and that
[44:22]
will be by council member Taylor.
[44:32]
I attended the Public safety, uh Meeting and uh we're, I liked what
[44:40]
our Department's doing they're they're doing a lot more action with in
[44:48]
uh holding people responsible for speeding and and violations and. Um Things
[44:55]
and, and it, it's good to see them out there making contact. Um, they're warning
[45:01]
people and not just citing people, but they're doing both. Um, so, uh, for
[45:10]
They had 992 stops during the month and um They also
[45:18]
had 25 citations. And um So that was, that's, that's a
[45:26]
lot, that's good traffic for the officers and for the citizens, both uh residents
[45:32]
and visitors. Um, it's, it's a balance actually, uh. Being a former law enforcement
[45:40]
officer that tells the citizens that they're actually getting their service for for
[45:47]
it so that looked that looked good. Also, um, the station clerk will be starting,
[45:53]
um, in October about the 21st so that that seat be filled.
[46:00]
I think they can hear me. They can't. OK. Um, so she'll be starting about, uh, October
[46:08]
21st and that's I have somebody.
[46:16]
October 1st, I'm sorry. Um, so, um, police department is doing good.
[46:24]
All right, thanks. Um, next. What? Oh, OK, I'm sorry, um.
[46:32]
Oh, you had a question, Lisa? Go ahead.
[46:43]
I just had a question if there's anything about fire.
[46:53]
Did not document that. I can answer that if it's allowed. Absolutely. Um,
[47:01]
Allison and I were also there and uh the fire department mostly just talked about
[47:06]
their own statistics, um, and what was going on with the South Fire Station, which
[47:12]
is now manned. And uh and then toward the end I asked. She's heard about the
[47:19]
overtime costs and Let him know that uh the council and the citizens are paying attention
[47:25]
to that, and he needed to get a handle on it.
[47:31]
All right. OK. So we'll move on to, this is under Public Works Standing Committee,
[47:36]
but we will uh recess this regular city council meeting at 6:47.
[47:45]
And convene into a special meeting of the Transportation Benefit District. This will
[47:50]
be presented by our project manager, Becky Leach, and Public Works Director. Ricardo
[47:58]
Victoriano.
[48:02]
Hello everybody. We have a really exciting, much needed project for the transportation
[48:07]
benefit district tonight to bring before you the, um, it's an asphalt project and
[48:13]
it's taking place all over the city. We're doing asphalt repairs at the Overlake
[48:18]
Bridge. If you drive on that, you know that that is really needed. 23 additional
[48:23]
locations throughout the city that is in the agenda packet and then there's also
[48:26]
areas of payment needed to be done at the Ocean Shores Airport, um. Project went
[48:32]
out to bid. Low bid was $585,736 and that is from Puget Paving.
[48:45]
All right. And any other, uh, you got any questions or? Yes, Richard. So, um
[48:53]
This paving project is for all of the paving that needs to be done throughout the
[48:58]
city, and my question specifically is, in the past we had an ordinance, I believe
[49:03]
that we were supposed to tunnel under the asphalt instead of trench across it. So
[49:07]
how much of this paving is a result of having trenched instead of tunneled or or
[49:13]
piped under whatever the right word is. So, um, in some cases we, we have no other
[49:19]
choice but to, uh, make a road cut. So, um, you know, times where equipment gets
[49:25]
stuck under the road where we're trying to bore or push through, um, and I believe
[49:30]
there is. 2 or 3 of those road cuts that need to be done. So, uh, the, the, the bore
[49:38]
insulation and really, uh, Limiting factor on that, especially in our area, is that
[49:44]
we can't get contractors that will bore anything bigger than 4 inches across the
[49:48]
road. So I think any culvert that we have to install to improve our storm drain,
[49:52]
uh, we have to cut that open 4 ft wide and, and get that installed. Thank you. That's
[49:57]
a good answer. Thank you. Yes, Lisa Scott. I have a quick question. So the um
[50:05]
On chance, you have the sewer installed. Is that the last bit of area that hasn't
[50:10]
been paved yet? Yes, yeah, that, that's the one trench across the road there. Yeah,
[50:15]
thank you.
[50:19]
Any, uh, anything else? Yes, uh, Denise. Uh, I, I was, uh, I'd, I'd
[50:27]
like you to explain there has been a lot on social media about individual areas that
[50:32]
Need to be fixed. Uh, can you explain why we, um, put them all together? In a bid,
[50:40]
yeah, so, um, I, I guess I'll do my best. I'm not a, not a lawyer, but, uh, so we
[50:46]
have, uh, bid laws that we stick to and so when we know that there's a, you know,
[50:51]
a certain amount of work that has to be done, which in my mind this was starting
[50:55]
out somewhere around 1000 to 200,000 and then we added the Overlake Bridge that desperately
[51:00]
needed to be done, uh, the area in front of the elementary school is gonna be completely
[51:04]
removed and repaved, um. And so you know that puts us over the $300,000 mark. And
[51:11]
once we're at that point, we have to have an engineer's estimate for the work to
[51:14]
be done. And at that point there's a lot more that goes into the bid information.
[51:19]
We spent probably close to a month going back and forth with engineers, um, working
[51:23]
on, uh, the load calculations for the Overlake bridge, and so, um. The grinding equipment
[51:29]
that's gonna be used for most of the work can't be used there. It has to be peeled
[51:33]
off with an excavator for the majority of the day, sadly. But um back to the, I mean,
[51:39]
you know, Doing everything at once versus splitting it up. If we were to split it
[51:43]
up and do it in 3 sections so that we didn't have to do all the extra steps, then
[51:47]
that would be bid splitting and they would kind of point that out in our audit.
[51:52]
Well, it'd be a lot more money also that you know because you gotta pay for mobilization.
[51:57]
People are already there now to do the work. They gotta come back out and you probably
[52:03]
double the cost on that. Anybody else got anything they'd like to say?
[52:10]
I guess not. So I guess we can, uh, hold on. They, they need to make action. They
[52:15]
have to approve this request. That's not in here. Yeah, it's, uh, it's because it's
[52:22]
a special meeting within a meeting. It's on page 25. 2626 yeah I don't have that
[52:29]
page of your big agenda.
[52:33]
You got that. Thanks. OK, so I'd like to go ahead and make a motion to approve a
[52:38]
request of the City council of the City of Ocean Shores awarding the citywide paving
[52:42]
project to Puget Paving. Nope, wrong one. You gotta in the agenda packet you gotta
[52:48]
approve the request for the TBD uh board to approve the 2026 budget request number
[52:55]
4 as the TBD board. OK, my bad. I flipped the page. Sorry, let me try that again.
[53:02]
So I'd like to make a motion to approve a request of the Transportation Benefit District
[53:07]
Number 1 board to approve the 2026 budget request number 4. Second
[53:15]
All in favor. Aye. All right, thanks. Unanimous. So, um, we'll close this special
[53:21]
meeting in the Transportation Benefit District and reconvene the regular city council
[53:25]
meeting at 6:52.
[53:32]
All right, so next up we have a request to the City council of the City of Ocean
[53:36]
Shores Washington awarding the citywide paving project to Puget Paving presented
[53:42]
by project manager Becky Leach and Public Works director Ricardo Victoriano.
[53:52]
I'm going to read down through the agenda bill which covers pretty much everything
[53:57]
that I just said, but since we have it, I'm gonna go ahead and cover the agenda bill.
[54:00]
The city has identified asphalt pavement repairs at multiple locations requiring
[54:04]
corrective work to preserve existing infrastructure and maintain safe and serviceable
[54:09]
roadway conditions. The citywide asphalt paving project includes asphalt repairs
[54:14]
at the Overlake Bridge, 23 additional locations throughout the city, and designated
[54:19]
areas of pavement at the Ocean Shores Municipal Airport. Prior to solicitation, the
[54:23]
estimated project estimate cost was $603,493. Following the competitive bidding process,
[54:31]
the city received two bids with Puget Paving submitting. The lowest responsive bid
[54:35]
in the amount of 585 to $736. So, it's always nice when our projects come in with
[54:42]
a lower bid than what the actual estimate is from the engineers. The proposed work
[54:46]
will address identified pavement deterioration, improve roadway conditions, and help
[54:51]
prevent further degradation that could result in more extensive and costly repairs
[54:55]
in the future. Staff recommends that the city council approve the citywide asphalt
[54:59]
paving project and authorize the award of the construction contract to Puget Paving
[55:04]
in the amount of $585,736.08.
[55:11]
All right. Um, any comments or questions from the council? I see none. How about
[55:18]
from the public?
[55:21]
No public comment. All right, um. You have counselor Oh, sorry. Yes,
[55:29]
Allison. So, I'd like to make a motion to approve a request of the City council of
[55:34]
the City of Ocean Shores awarding the citywide paving project to Puget Paving. 2nd
[55:40]
2nd. All right, we have a 2nd. Any other comments? All in favor? Aye. All right,
[55:46]
thanks, unanimous. All right, next up we have a request to the city council. Of the
[55:53]
City of Ocean Shores, Washington to approve groundworks to perform repairs on a failing
[55:59]
city-owned culvert in the IGA parking lot. And that is presented by Public Works
[56:04]
Director, Ricky Victoriano.
[56:09]
Um, yeah, so this is a, um, I'm sure, uh, the barricades have been a hot topic. Um,
[56:15]
so we actually set up cones and we had delivery drivers that were moving them to
[56:20]
get through, so we brought barricades out. Um, we have, uh, detected, I guess, um,
[56:26]
the best way to put it, a large void under the road measuring about 25 by 45 ft.
[56:33]
Uh, as deep as 12 ft in the center, uh, so there's a hole in the culvert, the aluminum
[56:39]
culvert going through the, uh, or the galvanized culvert, galvanized steel, um, going
[56:44]
underneath the parking lot there, um, carrying the Oihut ditch into the north end
[56:48]
Grand Canal. Um, and so what that does is kind of like the tide, it liquefies the
[56:54]
sand and kind of turns it into a slurry and pulls it with it. Um, and so two things
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that we'll fix here is we'll, uh, stop pulling sand from the ground, putting it into
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the North End Grand Canal, and we will, um, fix the void, seal the pipe, and re-support
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the foot thick asphalt that's there because I guess it's been a problem for a while
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and they just keep paving over it. So, um. The uh The I don't
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know anything about this work. Um, I've watched videos. I've listened to, uh, the
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crews that were out here, and, uh, I think that this is the best way to fix it. We
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don't have to open anything up, um, you know, when, when you're talking about something
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that big and that deep, uh, especially with the soil that we have, you know, you're
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sloping in a 1 to 2 slope to make sure that, uh, you're not having anything cave
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in, and that is a huge work area where we would have IGA move all of their shipping
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containers. Remove their fence, hopefully put it back the right way, and this is
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a non-intrusive way to fix it with cameras inside the culvert to make sure that we're
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Fixing it the right way.
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All right, thanks. If any of you have been on the uh east side of uh IGA you've seen.
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The Jersey barriers were brought in. And uh the reason was, is uh Ricky had that
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all coned off and flagged off, and the truckers moved it and drove over it anyway.
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So, we had to do something a little more serious with that. Um, anyway, uh, council,
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have any comments or questions? Yes, uh, go ahead. I don't, I don't wanna make an
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ignorant question, but isn't this private property? It is private property, but it's
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our culvert. OK, created the problem. Got you. OK, yeah.
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All right. I can see nothing more from counsel. Any public comments out there?
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Seeing none. Um, Yes, Lisa. You got it. OK. I'd like to approve a request of
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the City Council of the City of Ocean Shores, Washington to approve groundworks to
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perform repairs to a failing city-owned culvert in the IGA parking lot. Second. All
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right. Any other comments from the council? All in favor? Aye. All right, thanks,
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unanimous. All right, thanks, Ricky. Thank you. All right. Uh, under special agenda
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items, uh, we have an ordinance of the City council of the City of Ocean Shores amending
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the Ocean Shores. Municipal code section 5.10.050 sensitive use
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buffers to reduce certain cannabis retailer buffer distances from 1000 ft to 300
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ft providing for servability and establishing an effective date and this will be
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presented by our city administrator Scott Anderson. All right, so this is a kind
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of 3rd time the charm, although it actually relates to something we did a while back.
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Um, so a while back we, uh, decided we were gonna follow state regulations with the
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licensing of cannabis retailers and allow basically as many as the state would afford
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us, uh, before we had a limited one. Um, and that was, that was when they first came
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in with regulations from the state to allow marijuana or we should say cannabis retailers,
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uh, that has since changed. The state has allowed more than one per community under
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10,000, um, and so, you know, competition never hurts and obviously you can see,
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you know, one can go out of business and then suddenly we're left with none. So the
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original idea was to allow that and that passed council, I think like almost 3 months
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ago or so. Uh, and then we had to look at some of our distances. We kinda have some
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unique challenges within the city of Ocean Shores and that we have to limit it to
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the sort of our commercial, you know, commercial B1 zoning, um, where to put them.
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But we have a number of problems with that. We have, uh, the skate park, which is
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part of our golf course parcel, and I'll go into a little more detail on that. Um,
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we've got Playtime Family Fun. We've got the Pacific Paradise Arcade, we've got Tugboat
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Grammys, and it just makes it so there's just not really a lot of places where you
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can put a marijuana or cannabis retail outlet within the city of Ocean Shores and
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keep it in our business. District, uh, there's just restrictions on it. If it has
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a 1000 ft buffer and almost everywhere you go, you're kind of blocked. It would be
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like a, you know, kind of a classic video game where you, you really can't move out
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of the position that you're in. So we started looking at it and eventually we went
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to the planning commission and we said, well, let's, let's move it to 500 ft. Um,
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and we kind of went through that process and it looked great until then we realized
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that once again, that because of playtime, family fun, because of others, um, we
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were still blocked out of almost every location. So like, what could we do to do
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this? So, there's a couple of things that I just have to have some facts before we
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do this. And one is that the method of measurement is really important in Washington
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state law. So this is the WAC 31,455,050, and state law requires buffer distances
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to be measured as the crow flies in a straight line from property line to property
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line. Part two, local municipal authority states set the default rules of a 1000
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ft buffer in local municipalities, but they're explicitly empowered to pass ordinances
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relate reducing non-school, non-playground buffers down to as low as 100 ft. That's
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the lowest you can go under state law. Um, elementary, secondary school, and public
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playgrounds, which our state park is considered, must permanently remain protected
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at 1000 ft. Um, then we have the classification of commercial entities and, um, that
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is so Playtime Family Fund, Playtime Family Fund Center, and Pacific Paradise are
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classified by the state as restricted commercial recreational entities due to their
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central positioning. The 1000 ft radii overlap and effectively lock out any business
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that wants to relocate, uh, in that part of the city. So that we have to have a buffer
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reduction for and that the state does allow for and then. Two more of these building
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structural standards and restrictions. This is from WAC 31455086. Uh, retailers are
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legally barred from operating in multi-tenant buildings with shared interior walkways.
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So Driftwood Plaza, another place that you could potentially put one otherwise, cannot
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be used. So you're trying to see we'll just get locked out as we go. So the only
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real solution we had to allowing, um, more than one cannabis dispensary, and frankly
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might only be allowed one, because of some other information that's come to light,
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uh, even if it is only. One that ever gets in is we have to adopt at least a minimum
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of a 300 ft buffer for non-school, non-playground entities, and that would resolve
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the overlapping commercial radii, uh, and the and allow viable commercial sites,
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uh, on Point Brown as well as one of the places people have looked at is the Martin
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Bruni liquor location and then that would be allowed even though it's somewhat adjacent
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playtime family fun, but it's not 300 ft away from that. So those are really kind
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of our only options in doing that is the 300 ft um it's not an entirely, you know,
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a number that is uh 500 didn't do it the lowest we can go is 100 so we filed this
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under our business licenses and changing our business license and regulations we're,
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we're viewing this as a business, uh, regulatory change and not a zoning change and,
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and obviously you have the amended language that's in your packets, uh, and with
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that I guess I can turn over to council questions. Right. Any questions? Yes, Lisa?
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Wouldn't the um liquor store property be considered a multi-tenant building? It's,
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well, here, here's the cure language, yeah, and yes, you are right, but there's a
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second clause in that, and it says retailers are legally barred from operating multi-tenant
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buildings with shared interior walkways. So that's what Driftwood Plaza has, as you
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can go through it, but that's why the Martin Bruni location would be allowed. OK,
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thank you. All right. Any other questions from council? Comments? Yes, Lisa Griebel.
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Thank you, Mayor, and uh Well, I, I wanna be supportive of community members who
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access cannabis for medical reasons, I guess my question is, what is our benefit
[1:05:15]
to the city by having a, uh, another cannabis business? Well, right now we have none,
[1:05:21]
so there's one that's located outside the city, um, and so obviously the city's benefit
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is, uh, you don't have to drive outside the city on a slightly dangerous intersection.
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And we're collecting the tax revenue by opening it rather than them and we're affording
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a business license and bringing jobs into our community. Right, which is what my
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question was. What was the benefit to the city? So you're saying, uh, business license.
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I'm saying, yeah, the business license is jobs, business license, and taxes. That's
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hopefully I answered that for you.
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Alright, yes, go ahead. In addition to the medical needs of our community, sorry,
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because that's a very important part of it. There are a lot of people who are veterans,
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seniors who really do rely on and or people have had chronic health conditions that
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really do rely on it. So that's another part of it. Just a quick, we did already
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vote on allowing more additional. This is just for the reduction of the actual square
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footage or the actual that is correct. Thank you. Yes, Richard.
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Details are in the weeds and so I'm in the weeds a lot because you can't build a
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structure without details, without the weeds, without structure. My question is,
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and this is very closely related, isn't the Washington RCW that uh uh if you have
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a cannabis store that if you walk into the lobby of that store, none of that cannabis
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product and and perfume and all of that. Stuff that can't be in the public access
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you have to go behind the counter behind the door is that is my memory correct? You,
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you are correct. It's not addressed by what we're doing here tonight, um, because
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there's a whole host of ordinances and wax that come with, you know, the licensing
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and distribution of any cannabis retailer, um, but that is more or less correct.
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That's a liquor control board issue. That's kind of what we did is we turned it over.
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The first time we voted on this, we turned it over to the Liquor Control Board to
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monitor and, and to make the rules up for that, so the city will be out of that.
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Thank, thank you for the clarification and the, and, and my point was, is we are
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not just putting up a street corner marijuana and come on down, get your drugs like
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they do in, in, in, in, in Holland. No matter what we do here, it still has to pass
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the Liquor and Cannabis Control Board regulations and so that's this is just saying
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this area can be used, but you will still have to meet all their requirements.
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All right. Anything else? Yes, Lisa Scribble. So, but Scott, there are other areas
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in B1 zones that if there weren't, if we didn't lower the restrictions, there are
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still other places in our city a business could go in. I think according to our own
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city code, the only places they can go is within that box. That's not an RC that
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is not the state regulation. That's according to our city code and how we've zone
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it. So the places they could go are from Ocean Shores Boulevard to Point Brown Avenue,
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um, to, you know, you could go as far south as, uh, Chancellor La Mer and the south
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side of Chancellor La Mer and then obviously as far north as where Ocean Shores Boulevard
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loops around. I'm not sure there are other places you could relocate that within
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the city under. Our current, our current zoning laws.
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Right. Any Anything else? All right. Uh, no. Hang on for that. Um, we've got,
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uh, public comment coming up and, uh, AJ Peters, if he's here, he can come up and
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speak. And then uh anybody else in the crowd that would like to comment, OK, you'll
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be next.
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See if I can speak loud enough at this time. Good evening, Mayor, members of the
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city council. My name is AJ Peters. I am a resident of Ocean Shores. I'm speaking
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tonight regarding the proposed cannabis buffer zone regulations. I urge the council
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to reject that 300 ft buffer and instead adopt the 100 ft buffer. The city of Pacific,
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small, brought it down to 100 ft. Um, I personally, uh, been working on this for
[1:09:24]
about a year. Finally, the cap's been lifted. And Have a Heart is now being bought
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out by Cannabis 21, which is the other one on Hogan's Corner, which is the other
[1:09:35]
one in Hoquiam, Aberdeen, so they're kind of getting the full stretch. I'm not opposed
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to that, but at that same time with him getting that or them getting that store location,
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they're also shopping for real estate now as well. Um, I'm guessing that inflicted
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with the, the buffer issue. So whether or not they stay there or they go elsewhere,
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if they go elsewhere, we're not looking at a whole lot of places that we can put
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a cannabis store. Um, as far as, uh, I kind of wanted to pick on your little question
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there. You can't have anything visible from outside for cannabis liquor control board.
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Um, however, like have a heart, you'd walk through the door and cannabis is clearly
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visible. I think that if that is something for our community to be looked at, that
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there should be some kind of an entryway where nothing is, which was kind of my idea
[1:10:33]
in general, just to keep our community and visitors and guests from walking into
[1:10:38]
such a situation like that and make it to where you come in, you're greeted at a,
[1:10:42]
a medical, like a medical office and invited into the back. I think that that would
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be something that council might think about enacting um whether or not it's for me
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or for somebody else I don't really care but at the same time 100 ft to a 300 ft
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as a crow flies it would be nice if it was just take out a tape measure and go you
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know but they don't do it that way and with this being such a small little. Nook
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and cranny, they're literally real estate. There's none. Um, the way that it's looking,
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uh, I put a lot of time and, you know, stress, mental and physical time and all this,
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um, but I'm not seeing really a, a, a factor where we can accommodate a second license
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at this point. If we keep these buffers the way they are, I mean, we, we're a family
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fun town, um, yes, we all want to keep it that way, so you know if we have one, we
[1:11:36]
have two, it's, it's great, but at the same time I think that it needs to be a 100
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ft buffer to make it work if we're going to actually try to get another store in
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here, otherwise it just makes it to where have a heart can reopen under cannabis
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21 under that 300 ft rule and it still kind of kicks everything to the curb. Thank
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you.
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All right, next. Yeah, go ahead.
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Uh, I just wanted to mention to Lisa's, uh, comment, a real benefit that I think
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would be to have one in town. So far since Have a Heart is closed, I've seen many
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people walking out to Cannabis 21 on 115 and I don't know if you've ever walked on
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115, but it's dangerous and so that would be an immediate benefit to stop people
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from walking out there. That's, that's my only thought on that.
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All right. Any other uh public comment out there? Uh, seeing none. All right. Uh,
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yes, Lisa. I would like to go ahead and make a motion to approve an ordinance of
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the City Council of the City of Ocean Shores, Washington, amending Ocean Shores Municipal
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Code Section 5.10.050, sensitive use buffers to reduce certain cannabis retail buffer
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distances from 1000 ft to 300 ft, providing for severability and establishing an
[1:13:10]
effective date. I have one more question if I can before we go to the vote. You can
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do that after 2. All right, we have a second, uh. And so then I do have another comment.
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I have another question, and this is for Scott. Uh, you have obviously done a lot
[1:13:29]
of research on this and understand better, so I'm thinking about the gentleman who
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just spoke about the 100 ft buffer is. Is that something that the council should
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uh uh discuss and consider uh is. As I understood that comment, it was more about
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providing the opportunity for competition. And if the one available property is bought
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up by Pony One, then we have a virtual monopoly from here to, to, you know, Am I
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making any kind of sense? No, I do know what you're saying. And like I said, you
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know, the difference between 300 ft and 100 ft, it, it is arbitrary. You are allowed
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to go down to 100 ft. Originally, like I said, we'd had the planning clinician look
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at 500, determine that would not be enough. Uh, 300 would allow, allow for actually
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multiple locations within the city. There would be at least 3 to 4 options, um, that,
[1:14:22]
that could use that, that I know of. Uh, there, there might even be more. Uh, it
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just sort of solves our problem and with that, the planning commission was happy
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with that number. I don't want to speak on behalf of the planning commission and
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have them change that at this point. Your answer that there are multiple potentials
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at the 300 ft answers my question. Thank you so much. All right, thanks. Any other
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comment? Questions by counsel? All right, we have a motion in a second. All in favor?
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Aye. All right, unanimous. Thank you.
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All right. We'll move on to future meeting topics. Um, if any council members would
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like to make a motion to add an item to a future. Uh, topic list, uh. Yes, Lisa
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Greebel. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, my suggestion from our ad hoc committee is to, uh,
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for a future agenda topic is a council discussion on forming a community art committee,
[1:15:25]
and that discussion would include why we would, uh, why we would need one, the purpose
[1:15:30]
of that committee, what, who the members would be comprised of, and how they would
[1:15:34]
be. selected and then just for the opportunity to um use that community art committee
[1:15:41]
to work with our city and our community members to continue to improve uh the appearance
[1:15:49]
of our town. Which would, you know, fold into marketing, whether it was the appearance,
[1:15:54]
whether it was people attracted to our community to see art, whether it was the increase
[1:16:00]
in art festivals or other opportunities, and then again just to try to increase the
[1:16:05]
mediums that are used and the um To, uh, the artists as well as a, a
[1:16:12]
really transparent way to Solicit art from all of our community members and have,
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have an opportunity to participate.
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All right, Annie. Yes, go ahead, Lisa. Lisa, were you looking to put that on at the
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next meeting, or are, are you like looking for a, a quicker time frame? I just was
[1:16:34]
curious, so, oh, I would love to have it on the next one. The reason why is the,
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the miss uh budget issue because, uh, while we all wish everyone would donate their
[1:16:45]
art, art to create art is expensive, and the time artists put in to create art is
[1:16:51]
expensive, so Or you know, knowing what a possible budget could be or the impact
[1:16:57]
as we move into the budgeting process. So sooner rather than later. Perfect. Well,
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I was just on agenda setting. I see our city clerk as a, are you making an official
[1:17:06]
motion to add something to the future agenda items, then you need a second. I love
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that. I would like to thank you. I'd like to make a motion to put that on the next
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agenda.
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OK, we have a second. Are you, so is your motion to add it. As a future agenda item.
[1:17:27]
Like in the list of future agenda item list. I would like it on the future agenda
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item list and if possible also on the next agenda. Sometimes they still need to stay
[1:17:38]
on the agenda list because we may not, if, if it's a discussion, be ready or yeah,
[1:17:44]
get anything done.
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Well, I can be brought up uh on Thursday. On that.
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Yes, Richard, I would make a friendly, a friendly motion to put it on the next agenda.
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I think that it really needs to be there. No, she put it on both an option. I would
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amend the motion to put it on the next agenda.
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Um Where the motion was to put it on future agenda items. You've got council members
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Siers, Taylor, and Scott. They can make the, uh, you know, they can put it on the
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next agenda. If the council votes on it, then it's not up to 3 people, it's up to
[1:18:31]
the council. So we still don't have a 2nd for the initial motion. 2nd, yeah, we had
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a 2nd already. It was Richard.
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Yeah. So let's uh take one step at a time, Richard. How about that? All right. So,
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um We've got a motion a second. We're done discussing it, I assume. So all in favor
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of putting this on future agenda items. All right, that's unanimous. OK, yes, Denise,
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uh, I'll, I'll just say that I will coordinate with, uh, council member Grebel to
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see whether it is ready for the next agenda or whether it would be for the one following
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that.
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Is that, are you good with that, Richard? I'm good with that with, with, with uh
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uh council member Sire's, uh, input there. Yes, that, that works. Thank you. OK,
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that's good. All right, so we'll, we'll move on to agenda review committee and, uh,
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Thursday, October 1st, 9 a.m. nice and bright and early. Uh, council members, uh,
[1:19:39]
Sires, Taylor, and Scott will be on that, uh, agenda review committee. So we'll move
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on to uh go to the order and we'll start with uh Tom Taylor.
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I have nothing for tonight All right, um, Lisa Grebel. Thank you, Mayor. I would,
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uh, just like to thank all of our council for patience as we muddle through future
[1:20:04]
agenda items. We'll get, we'll get it figured out. OK. Let's hang in there. We got
[1:20:08]
our committees figured out, I think, and our our liaison reports versus committee
[1:20:14]
reports. We've got that mastered, and I have complete confidence we'll master future
[1:20:18]
agenda items as well.
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All right, uh, Allison. Yeah, um Thank you to the people who talked about bringing
[1:20:28]
more art in our city. That was something that council member Greebel and I were very
[1:20:34]
excited to hear, um. My other thing is. If you did not have
[1:20:41]
the opportunity. To attend the opening ceremony for the Vietnam Wall
[1:20:50]
or the 9/11 Memorial, please go online and watch it. It is probably one of
[1:20:57]
the most moving um speeches I've ever heard, and. Acknowledging
[1:21:05]
our veterans, and I know I cried for a long time and I was not alone, was I, Chief?
[1:21:13]
It, it was very, very moving and I was very proud to be able to volunteer with Avert
[1:21:20]
to be here and um thank you to all the people that put in all the work to bring that
[1:21:27]
here because I know that was a huge undertaking and I know a lot of people lost a
[1:21:33]
lot of sleep and went through a lot of stress because they wanted to make sure everything
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was perfect. And in my eyes, it was. So thank you to everyone who did that and like
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I said, please um watch. The mayor made one statement in his speech and the tears
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started and didn't stop for about 3 hours.
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Well, thank you for that, um, Denise.
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I wanted to uh shout out again our public works department and the leadership they
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are showing in getting projects done. Um, I'm not on public works this year but I
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was in past years and uh the number of needed improvements in,
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in the city were, were really um formidable and um uh pretty daunting.
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And seeing our public works go um slowly but surely through the, uh, through each
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of them, um, uh, along with Ricky and, and Becky and getting these projects done
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and uh I thought it was important to talk about going out to bid because people have
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been complaining about the streets, uh, not really truly understanding. Uh, the requirements
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that we have for, for state bids and also the, the most important part of that, it's
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not just the regulations it that we can do it, uh, much more economical if we group,
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uh, projects together. So, uh, thanks to our public works department. Thanks, um,
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Lisa Scott. Just to piggyback off Allison, I had the privilege of attending one of
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the days of the 9/11 or the um Vietnam Memorial, um, along, along with the tribute
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to 9/11 and some Korean War memorial stuff. And it was um very moving, very, very
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moving, a lot of, lot of, uh, a lot of wet eyes around the room. I've had the, I
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guess, the luxury of being able to actually visit the wall. Um, not very many people
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have a chance to do that, and it is, um, It's a testament to the dedication of our
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veterans, uh, most definitely, and thanks to all of the volunteers who made that
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happen. Thank you, uh, Richard. So thank you. Uh, I want to, to piggyback on what
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both the customer sires and customer Greeble said. Uh, I absolutely support the public
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works and the job that, that, uh, Ricky and, uh, Becky are doing, a phenomenal progress
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made in public works, and I'm really excited about this, this discussion, this committee
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about the art throughout the city. Uh, Ocean Shores has, has a bunch of really, really,
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really high quality, very competent artists. And the things that makes a city an
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attractive place to visit is when there's something to do and looking at art is something
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to do and so that will be a major step in improving our, uh, our tourist attraction,
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uh, our ability to attract tourists. So, uh, and the sentiments about the Vietnam
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Wall, uh, I, I mirror those, uh, we owe those veterans a great debt of gratitude.
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Thank you.
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Hurt
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Canalloween is my new favorite word. Do you? OK. Beyond that I have nothing. All
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right, thanks. Uh, the thing about the wall, I just wanna say I was impressed with
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the amount of people that, uh, came out and helped out and it was, uh, from all,
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all different, uh, political sides and, uh, I thought that was really special that
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we could rally behind something like that and not, uh, let our personal feelings
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with our politics get in the way. So, um, it was a great event and I hope, uh. Most
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of you got to see it. It's worth, it was worth looking at. And I'll tell you, you
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know, I went to the, I just wanna say this quickly. I know everybody wants to get
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out of here. But when I went up to the Casino where they had it um and I have a relative
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on the wall and they uh um gave me the the number what what panel you know to go
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find them here when you asked uh for that information the persons people that were
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working there with the computers to find that information personally walked the people
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out to the section and helped them find their name and I thought that was a special
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little touch to the whole thing on that so. Anyway, um Can I get an adjourn? Move
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to adjourn. All right, we're adjourned.