[0:02] Do that in this meeting.

[0:06] Does that make sense? Okay. We don't need to vote on some of those duties, but we will have a task force set up. And I'm really just going to sign that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[0:35] But I want to be very clear. I can't say on my own that anything is available.

[0:41] So I just want to make sure that you can help my life.

[0:44] But I said it really, I said that it's one of the valuable things that you can't.

[0:47] But there's definitely, there's opportunity.

[0:50] I think the better terminology that's there.

[0:52] I have seen people like kind of practice in that little tree area where the evergreens are.

[0:56] It's just to the north of the outhouse, right?

[0:59] Yeah.

[0:59] Yeah, snow there that should be so if there's a basal diamond in the north, sorry, I know what you mean, that's for an awesome parking lot.

[1:09] The offset in the north, that's what we think it's to be forced around.

[1:13] There's an empty rectangle there near the old floor board.

[1:16] And it's not used for anything more because the baseball cutoff will pull off.

[1:19] Well, I don't want to play soccer on that.

[1:21] I mean, I coached a lot for years over there.

[1:24] I'm a part of the pack.

[1:25] It was packed today.

[1:26] I'm way over here.

[1:27] Nobody could be vulnerable to sex.

[1:28] To say, let's say.

[1:29] And even though they're going to have full gains,

[1:31] I know they practice in that.

[1:32] So footballs, no, I ran this little football program up here

[1:35] until it lost so much interest that they

[1:38] had a little more thought than.

[1:39] So the football was still there.

[1:40] I would have strong opposition against it

[1:41] because it was perfectly long enough for a day.

[1:44] But black or tag-a-fall, no longer exists in Ogden Valley

[1:48] as a glass of water.

[1:50] The diamond base of it.

[1:54] They have a class of all right where they have a lot, but they don't use this and it's where I would say it's harder

[2:01] The evaluation is you look at utilization and I did the same thing when I was looking at pickleball ports

[2:06] I would drive down it drive past it random and I would just document is it used is it open is it what and

[2:12] Again elicit community help. I'm happy to do that every time I drive by Liberty Park or Eden Park like take a quick check

[2:19] like, is it being used what time, what is the, you know, availability of the land?

[2:25] Is that the property park?

[2:27] That's pretty much all of this.

[2:28] All the time.

[2:31] It was just a field.

[2:32] Yeah.

[2:33] Okay.

[2:33] So that's, I would, that's what I would say is my biggest thing is, yes, there might be space

[2:37] that you can park, but it is utilized a whole lot more.

[2:44] Okay.

[2:44] I think we can move on.

[2:45] Yeah.

[2:45] I have on the agenda, the park presentation, Marty is championing that, is not here.

[3:05] Yeah, I'm already actually this week and she told me she wasn't going to be here and she told me specifically a bunch of things that she's working on to get us more information to be totally ready for her proposal.

[3:16] She's on it.

[3:17] She's on it.

[3:18] Great.

[3:18] We talked about a bunch of stuff.

[3:20] And I will send out the updated.

[3:21] I have some feedback to incorporate into those forms, but I'll send those out.

[3:25] Thanks.

[3:26] Thanks again.

[3:27] Thank you.

[3:28] I want to give you a few things.

[3:30] I'm going to move forward.

[3:32] We'll see.

[3:35] All right.

[3:37] We get a message.

[3:41] Everybody.

[3:42] Pointing from.

[3:44] I'm going to reach it.

[3:44] In my old.

[3:45] In the last.

[3:48] I have a balance.

[3:50] Yeah.

[3:51] Yeah.

[3:53] I think it's a personal.

[3:56] Yeah.

[3:57] I was.

[3:58] Yeah.

[4:00] Yeah.

[4:01] Yeah.

[4:01] That's a big.

[4:03] Yeah.

[4:04] Yeah.

[4:04] Yeah, we get down.

[4:05] Yeah.

[4:07] Yeah.

[4:09] We're through now.

[4:10] Are sure.

[4:10] Six.

[4:11] Well, ten.

[4:13] We lost.

[4:13] for a minute. Give us a minute. What did you say? Thank you. Thank you.

[4:26] Can we put that on an agenda, publicize it, and nobody came to be against it.

[4:37] Right by the song, nobody's saying it.

[4:43] I just want to say the word with that verb.

[4:47] So you can call me in the office.

[4:50] It's possible.

[4:51] Okay.

[4:52] Okay.

[4:52] So I reached out to the Utah Cyber Center.

[4:56] I put in a request for our domain with subdomain and requested on the mailing part.

[5:06] and they're looking into it. It was putting it up to the next level. I didn't speak with the guy today.

[5:11] He said on his step, he's a first yet to go up to the next level.

[5:14] We don't have an official anything yet, but it is moving through the process.

[5:19] And on top of that, there are several other things they offer as far as once we have that domain name of like hell on how to set up.

[5:27] And the Google Docs type things for entity emails for all of us.

[5:32] So if we get grandma requisite, we have everything in one location.

[5:36] And so I said, yes, we love all the information on everything.

[5:39] So maybe I put my hand for June 1st.

[5:42] Anyone's welcome to get onto that.

[5:44] It's going to be some form of phone zoom thing.

[5:47] So if you are interested, let me know and I'll add you to the invite list for that.

[5:52] It's going to be June 1st at 2pm.

[5:53] And we'll be the call on our team over all the options that they do offer through that.

[5:59] So we'll tour up.

[6:01] Awesome.

[6:02] Great work.

[6:02] Thank you.

[6:02] Absolutely.

[6:03] That will help us.

[6:04] What time, sorry.

[6:05] I was choosing.

[6:07] I know.

[6:08] How long until we get the website.

[6:11] It's just up in the next step.

[6:12] There it's a intake of oil.

[6:14] Yeah.

[6:14] As I said, we.

[6:15] The federal level, I think.

[6:17] I don't know.

[6:18] There's somebody.

[6:19] And he does it.

[6:19] But.

[6:20] As long as you're working with us.

[6:21] I guess maybe we'll ask them to do first, but if they call you again, can you ask them if it's possible for people to be okay?

[6:27] This is a question that's just started.com, but I know like, like, for example, what's we, or what's what if we add a color so that they can merge it over?

[6:37] I believe was the purpose of that question, but I just said we don't currently have one.

[6:42] I think we can talk to them about on June 1st, if it seems like it's going to be a very lengthy program, I wouldn't stop that.

[6:47] So I don't want to show you just a nice list if we could build in the background and get

[6:52] from the background or then it's all cool. It's in 3 months. It's day one. Here's your out of

[6:56] the live. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, definitely fortunate for him. Thank you for that. Okay.

[7:05] The update on the treasure is that fortunately, I did hear back from the accounting firm today.

[7:14] I called last week trying to find out if they were going to do it. They gave the fit of 255

[7:17] dollars a month to do this work right here now, which I said to you today, so yeah,

[7:22] I'm going ahead and they can also put in as one of the entities for the proposal, but

[7:27] got that today. So I was happy. I think that's a great press. Well, we've been talking

[7:31] I've been actually because I remember I need to finish that. I do know about our people

[7:35] here who are in trouble, so we can person, but that's also not to you and you guys can

[7:42] Yeah, I think that, um, see what we want to do.

[7:45] Uh, um, existing.

[7:48] I think it was pretty awesome.

[7:49] Jim and I were working on that.

[7:51] My gender name was on.

[7:53] I think him and I were going to work on that.

[7:54] About the RFP that we had list of firms that we were going to send it to.

[7:59] Yeah.

[8:00] That's good hope that it's $250 for us to be so awful.

[8:04] Brothers and few other costs yet and on,

[8:07] but that's more like the audit, the quarterly stuff.

[8:09] There's different things that I was like,

[8:10] that's what I just need another way to say we gave the $500 or less. And one can give them

[8:16] because they already have them. I'm just going to say the cannot have the seamless. They already

[8:20] have our stuff. So as an expectation that every time I have a meeting we're going to have this

[8:24] person that or affirmatively contract with in the show up here and give us a brief on our finance.

[8:30] No, we want to have a treasure on the board that is more in the form of a liaison. So Jory was

[8:35] considering that once we have an actual treasure and she'd be the one that coordinates with them and

[8:39] comes and brings it up for it.

[8:40] That's the way I could look at it and bring this up to speed.

[8:44] If we do it every month and we do it for or something,

[8:46] I could bring us and bring the copy of financials or emails

[8:49] out so that everybody has those.

[8:52] Yeah.

[8:53] For libraries to do it.

[8:54] I've been asking you would want them here sometimes.

[8:56] Okay.

[8:58] Okay.

[8:58] I'll see you tonight.

[9:03] Well, for now, I think we can move on.

[9:05] So we can't really do much there until we send out our things.

[9:08] Well, and I guess my question would be because I do think that's an important thing for us to get figured out is our next meeting June 11th or we meet again this month or like just we know like we can send an expectation of the earth is being sent out next day and we're going to be going on next day.

[9:24] All right, if I'm pushing the run, it's going to be a couple of weeks. It's Memorial Day. I don't think that one's on the table. I'll be honest. I don't want to be able to rest of this.

[9:33] Yeah, we're just fine.

[9:34] It isn't the $250 a month, that's $3,000 a year, is that right?

[9:42] Yeah.

[9:43] How's that with thresholds and all that stuff?

[9:46] It's already outlined in the budget.

[9:50] We voted for anything under 500 or less for the Internet.

[9:54] That's on the loud ones meeting.

[9:56] Yeah.

[9:56] 10.

[9:57] If I'm understanding where you're going, are you proposing that we just don't do

[10:01] in our theme, just a new form of using them?

[10:04] Yes.

[10:05] Oh, no.

[10:07] We need to show up.

[10:08] We need to do some sort of procurement, though.

[10:11] I think that's a legal one.

[10:12] We're redefining what they do, too.

[10:15] You guys are in a position where you need someone to be doing the lab right now.

[10:20] So you're kind of in a tricky situation because typically I would say that you need to do procurement for evenness.

[10:27] But if you need them.

[10:28] This is just for the girl with this letter.

[10:31] No, you don't love it for the long term.

[10:34] It's something you do in our key.

[10:36] And if they respond with the same terms and you guys are like,

[10:38] cool, this is working out for us.

[10:40] Then we can more formally select them.

[10:43] I don't think.

[10:45] Okay.

[10:46] Like we can move on.

[10:48] She brought it next meeting.

[10:50] Oh yeah.

[10:52] So I.

[10:54] It's more of that when I'm on the more of it.

[10:56] So the next current one on the schedule will be the eighth of June, which is the second

[11:01] afternoon.

[11:01] That was one month from the day.

[11:03] So then if I could add to that, then we're going to get on the eighth of June.

[11:07] Still do tasks.

[11:08] And everybody, me, let's just say, just try to plan for seven days after that to hold the

[11:13] public hearing in case you need to modify the budget to afford the stredger.

[11:24] If you guys, like depending on what happens in the next month, if the skate, if we have

[11:29] like the formal proposal for that and like we prep, um, then we could vote seven days

[11:36] later.

[11:37] And also to do the public wearing the mean, we can still do just three people in an

[11:42] I'm not watching it, the proposal is the first one.

[11:46] I don't know if that's the right one, I'm sorry.

[11:47] That got to be the first one.

[11:48] For my first third, yes.

[11:51] Do they hear the third one?

[11:52] Yes, yes.

[11:52] Unless your bylaws say something different.

[11:54] At some point, people thought, so I'm just saying,

[11:57] if we're going to have another public hearing, right,

[11:59] just to kind of follow a procedure and then this thing done,

[12:02] and it's summer, so we're going to be on vacation.

[12:04] My question was, there's been some different information

[12:08] that they needed to be three people at an anchor location.

[12:11] Not just one.

[12:11] That's been rare.

[12:13] So personal stuff.

[12:14] It's not the state.

[12:15] Okay.

[12:16] So that's why I was confused.

[12:17] So Rachel, if we have to move through to make a public hearing.

[12:23] If it was a men's budget or the treasure.

[12:27] Okay.

[12:27] Well, I mean, can I just say we do need to revisit the budget as a whole as a whole.

[12:33] Okay.

[12:34] Well, let's, well, let's say that once the finance person comes on board.

[12:39] Yeah.

[12:39] I would say that would be the first task.

[12:42] Sorry.

[12:42] So is the finest person that we contact with, to understand where the money comes from?

[12:47] Because it's kind of a question I had.

[12:48] She all over the money comes from.

[12:50] I know it comes from property taxes.

[12:52] But we also know that Huntsville, Huntsville is incorporated.

[12:56] They collect their own property taxes.

[12:58] Ogden Valley now is going to collect its own property taxes.

[13:01] Ogden Valley City.

[13:02] Huntsville is different because they're not actually within the service area exactly.

[13:05] They're only participating through it in your local agreement.

[13:08] A wheel in the lane, don't we?

[13:10] I don't think so.

[13:11] I think we do.

[13:12] OK.

[13:13] Well, I don't fully understand.

[13:15] And that's what I mean.

[13:15] Yes, you're right, I see.

[13:16] Yeah.

[13:17] Yeah.

[13:17] All of the going to that further.

[13:19] But Huntsville is like, don't use that as an example for the way the rest of the district.

[13:23] But to answer your bigger question, though, I would expect this finance person to be

[13:27] the person who understands the finances of this organization better than anyone.

[13:31] But that they'll get to that point where they know where all the money is coming from.

[13:34] I'm hoping if you need to do tasks and they still hope if you need to do these,

[13:39] like it should be someone who's like a government and expert in government finance and can...

[13:44] And that's part of the understanding of registration.

[13:46] Yeah, so I will say this, I have it later, but this is where I got really confused.

[13:50] I have some of the same questions. I had to redo the application for the insurance,

[13:54] or and some of the questions were how much revenue were you collecting.

[13:57] And I'm like, I don't think hardly any, because I was thinking just the building rentals.

[14:01] Well, they put it in for last year, for this year, an estimate.

[14:03] It was $529,000 in revenue, and I cannot figure it all out.

[14:08] Yes, I don't know.

[14:10] It was already listed on there for last year and this year.

[14:13] And then I've been working on it for two days.

[14:15] I can't figure out the answers.

[14:17] I kept getting stopped, stopped, stopped, stopped.

[14:19] Yeah, the best thing to do every contract was

[14:20] that it doubled it last year, which...

[14:23] I thought it was more like a 2,200, 2,200,000.

[14:26] And then when I talked about it, I think that's not what

[14:28] I was expecting.

[14:29] It's really confused.

[14:30] I should go on.

[14:31] I don't think $250 is going to cover that kind of research that they're going to need to understand.

[14:36] They're just going to do quick books and provide them monthly statements.

[14:40] So now, we've been going to show why I need to do this, a formal RFP, because it's very

[14:45] followed by, yeah, it's easier, and I'd see it as someone almost like me, like you've hired

[14:50] me as your legal counsel, and you need, so that's just going to be your finance person.

[14:55] That's, it's like, so great, I'm like, I've been telling you, it's like having a finance director,

[14:58] except instead of having it be...

[15:00] Employees may be an independent contractor, and that doesn't mean that they're going to be full-time. It should totally be part-time roles. I've got another district that's a really good district in Salt Lake County. And this person has a full-time day job, but then the act is the turner of district, you know, maybe on a cloud basis. So it shouldn't be like this person's full job, but unless they want to be ready to roll. Okay, so Rachel, George, and Jim, you guys, you can start this situation.

[15:30] Well, she wants to send a vote for you, General E. General, I will send an out.

[15:33] I'm sure we were at the top of this.

[15:34] We've at least just sent a vote.

[15:36] If you even know on you, just mention for the nice women.

[15:38] We just all say, I only ever eat in the party.

[15:40] I was going to land some manners with it.

[15:43] Oh, sorry.

[15:43] I don't know why I was so slow.

[15:45] Did you just leave the room?

[15:46] I'm just going to let it take the food to be.

[15:48] Did you...

[15:49] I don't want to jump subject.

[15:50] But we talk about our fees.

[15:52] Did you see the package that I put together?

[15:54] I was looking for some feedback from you when I put that together.

[15:58] is that not everybody on the evening edition? Did you see the templates? You didn't see any?

[16:03] So it's two threads and I'm betting you it got replied to the board and she's

[16:09] gone on all I did catch that to be right. I asked the question is like I just asked

[16:13] questions to somebody. There's not even here. She's not on all the

[16:16] I didn't see it if the game started.

[16:18] That's what happened.

[16:22] It's amazing.

[16:24] You told me that you did this for a living.

[16:27] Hopefully we could talk about it.

[16:31] We're going to be held accountable.

[16:32] Somebody can get sued if you don't want to.

[16:36] I think we need to come up with some documents and templates that we're going to use on a regular basis.

[16:43] when it comes to RPs, for example, and contracts, right?

[16:47] So that's why I built what I built.

[16:51] That's what we nights and nights of her.

[16:53] Should everybody else want to look at it?

[16:55] I just can't see that.

[16:56] Yeah, let's look at that so it was it for it was for the bathrooms.

[17:01] It is different than what it is.

[17:03] So you're asking, okay, I was like,

[17:05] is I felt bad?

[17:06] I'm like, did we just set this up?

[17:07] No, we have a parent that doesn't give us the whole thing.

[17:09] It isn't like, you try to fast-track,

[17:11] But literally, we want to see and start construction tomorrow. We can't start that one for a couple more months

[17:15] And his is a much larger project. Okay, good. Yeah, it's not really that big of a project for the honest, but because only 180,000

[17:24] Fix it

[17:26] And you also have granted partners to start some fun on tracking the finance and so I know it's on

[17:33] We need to talk about that

[17:40] So, you know, I, uh, I thought a lot of get down on board, uh, the committee chairman or

[17:47] Dean Park. Um, and, uh, he wants to move really fast.

[17:54] What the problem is, you want to, uh, one of the architectural companies that I think did the, the first kind of, uh,

[18:02] In addition to what the additional look like, 10 connections on this life, okay, and they

[18:09] came back and wouldn't bid it because one, Dallet wants to, sooner than later, they're

[18:17] busy, two, their bid is to be a lot more than what their original estimate was put in.

[18:23] So when I approached Dallet, I said, Dallet, you know, and I got that email thread that Tim

[18:29] providing me with all the information. There was one overall paid and it was for $200,000,

[18:34] or over $200,000, or get $200,000 or something like that. But down the line, put in for $9,000

[18:40] on the $9,000 from us, which is only on the Navy. And I said, okay, so what's your plan? I go,

[18:46] are you going to general it? And he goes, yes, what we want to do is we want to general. But then I

[18:49] looked at his volunteer work in the ramp. And he said, oh, I'm going to provide like eight hours

[18:56] of volunteer work, the general, it's going to require a lot more than eight hours

[19:00] to be the general contractor on this project. So I'm a little worried that

[19:05] 180,000 is not going to cover the cost of this for local resources. One, inflation,

[19:11] things of government tools gone out of them. Two, the bids that originally got,

[19:16] or I think are a little on the low side, especially like architectural,

[19:19] because that didn't even include engineering. So we got a good engineering.

[19:23] and balance thinking it was only gonna cost $5,000

[19:27] for both engineering and our potential.

[19:30] They come back just for our potential

[19:31] to around $8,000.

[19:33] That doesn't include engineering.

[19:34] How old are the bids?

[19:37] I didn't look at the dates, but I think they're good.

[19:39] Because they just put in, but I didn't say

[19:42] that's not a lot of time.

[19:43] So contractors will remember and price it.

[19:45] They don't have a lot of time.

[19:46] They're just gonna say, they only hold it for 30 days.

[19:48] General, so as you say, that's what I'm gonna do.

[19:49] That was where you put all the grant

[19:51] and what was the due January, something February?

[19:54] So it was okay, right, in that time period.

[19:55] So that price is even different than today.

[20:02] So, I'm worried about going forward,

[20:03] I assume, because we have a lot of money

[20:05] we can come up with additional funds if they need truth.

[20:08] I mean, is that okay?

[20:09] They have to read, no, I mean,

[20:10] they have to read the budget.

[20:12] Well, we're gonna have to do that anyway.

[20:14] So I think, I think so.

[20:15] Yeah, I don't think that should be a stopper.

[20:18] And also the only thing I'd worry about is on the ramp grant that the numbers are a little different

[20:22] But if we have to kick in more, is that a problem, Rachel?

[20:26] We have to kick in more than the match because Lizard irons will do it.

[20:30] Absolutely.

[20:31] No, yeah.

[20:33] I think there's a problem if you agree to do it.

[20:38] There's funding.

[20:39] Okay.

[20:40] Okay.

[20:40] So stop.

[20:41] There's also, if you're available, we can discuss for hours where there's an existing septic system

[20:46] that does work that's there.

[20:47] So there's definitely some items that we could play around with and have a conversation about the stay of the pretty significant

[20:53] I don't we did talk about that, but I thought they were saying it wasn't commercial. I remember you did bring that up

[20:58] They just well, they didn't want to abandon the internal restrooms

[21:01] And I said we add more restrooms on but it could overwhelm it. It's an exercise

[21:04] But we could just we I know we can also just close out those internal restrooms and have it be more storage inside

[21:10] I don't we this is another day. Yeah, yeah, I don't think we close work. Okay. So yes, let's let's go with the business

[21:18] I mean, your first step is to get a drawing package, right?

[21:22] So we have to pick an architectural, but we need to ask you for their architectural firm, right?

[21:27] Yeah, I haven't had a chance to approach anybody because I've been going, but I got a graphic

[21:33] designer that worked for an architectural company that might be interested in doing the work,

[21:38] that lives up where I live, but I don't know if she should do it, but that might be somebody

[21:43] I know Dallas going out to Manuel, which is another guy on the email chain, his bar there committee, and they got somebody made me in mind, but I...

[21:52] Very to the name.

[21:54] Manuel Ellis, to...

[21:57] Jenna?

[21:57] Yeah, really?

[21:58] Oh, to do the RFP was still either posted.

[22:01] Yeah, we have to sort of get into that.

[22:02] That's part...

[22:03] That's another thing, guys.

[22:05] Here's, you know, that's one of the...

[22:07] why I kind of wanted you to look at what we're doing

[22:11] and what process are we gonna come up with

[22:13] because it's pretty glad to send these things

[22:17] out in advance to firms so they know they can bid on it

[22:21] but we need to come up with a formal date

[22:23] that we're releasing there and say instruction to offer

[22:25] if this is when you're gonna have your bids back to us.

[22:28] So we're not.

[22:29] Right.

[22:30] What is the standard procurement open broth?

[22:33] Like the RFP acceptance process.

[22:36] That's something I mean, at least seven days, but a lot of times they're weak and I know

[22:42] that it's possible.

[22:44] We'll be accepting events until like a month and a half in there, or just depends on what

[22:48] the project is, minimum seven, and then you can face a nice thing, yeah, then if you're

[22:55] required to post on revs and you don't have yet, so it's been nice and to do going to the

[22:59] open and pull up state and then post on revs and then post it in paper, and yeah, you're

[23:05] I'm welcome to post it anywhere else you want, but yeah, so what do you think we need?

[23:13] I'm so excited.

[23:14] Oh, best.

[23:14] What is it?

[23:15] Go ahead.

[23:16] I'd assume that prematurely probably this is another one that we want to get out as soon

[23:20] as possible because it's said that once you figure out the finances, it may be a much longer

[23:24] conversation and just going to work.

[23:27] Well, the only other thing that we don't need to rush, rush, rush is that there is the

[23:30] moratorium.

[23:31] So we were just doing this to get ahead of that because we can't really break ground until

[23:35] that's right.

[23:35] but we don't have an architect.

[23:38] They work on everything.

[23:40] An architect that you're just going to say is good.

[23:42] No, we should send it out.

[23:43] Yeah, the mortuary is ready.

[23:46] We're ready.

[23:47] We're ready.

[23:48] We want to be ready when the mortuary is ready.

[23:51] We're not ready.

[23:53] So am I hearing that the next step is you would like

[23:58] urge a review and then we're ready.

[24:00] I don't know where but

[24:01] Well, are you going to put together? I'm worried about the process that this team, this council needs to come up with in in templates that we're going to use in the future when we contract work. That's what I'm.

[24:14] We think we can have that procurement process that we did established last year.

[24:20] We don't have time.

[24:22] So yes, and that doesn't delay this one going.

[24:26] No, no, no.

[24:27] So we just, if we need an art to template and then a standard procedure, I don't it, right?

[24:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[24:32] But that's what's made about the standard.

[24:34] We have that with the standard procedure is that like, it's going to go out on this day.

[24:38] We'll set the minimum of seven days, like, and then, and then what does the timeline look to

[24:42] review for the board?

[24:44] Well, that's all we need.

[24:44] This contract will be different.

[24:45] We don't, we don't.

[24:46] Yeah.

[24:47] You can come up with a minimum day.

[24:48] Okay.

[24:49] Yeah.

[24:49] It depends on the amount of work and all the other stuff.

[24:51] You don't want to make sense.

[24:52] Yeah.

[24:52] Even the federal government.

[24:54] But mine lines will be variable.

[24:56] Yes.

[24:57] Okay.

[24:58] What else should be in the template?

[25:00] What's exactly, I don't know what's lacking in the process.

[25:04] Did you?

[25:05] Well, we put it up again.

[25:07] OK.

[25:07] So it's exactly same.

[25:08] Well, the contract number.

[25:09] If you look at my RPI, I actually have a contract number, and I put TBD numbers, right?

[25:15] But I put Eden Park.

[25:16] I put the year, you know, the blue bit.

[25:20] That's all stuff.

[25:21] I mean, this is sort of like a very sophisticated organization with general manager and I'm

[25:26] thinking like how a process like that would be normal, but this is very, I mean, that's

[25:31] what I've been dealing with this 20 years, like everything's just sort of like willing and

[25:34] willing.

[25:35] But we've got to do that.

[25:36] We've got to do that.

[25:37] Yeah.

[25:38] I don't want to be soon.

[25:39] Yeah.

[25:40] Well, what are the other special districts do in terms of like a template for the out of

[25:44] case if they have a contract number?

[25:46] I'm still like, I guess I don't do this.

[25:47] I don't really know what's missing.

[25:48] not to be concerned about a contract number be required. So a lot of districts it really they really

[25:55] create an RFP on a case-by-case basis depending. If it's a big district that has a lot of work

[26:01] they'll have a template but a lot of them don't also like they'll just when they need to do something.

[26:06] Okay well let's create one for this you know. Okay so we're at the game now.

[26:10] What it would have created is really good. I mean that becomes our template is what I'm saying.

[26:18] The very first one we did was all last summer and it was to hire Rachel.

[26:22] So that's the very first one we've had to do.

[26:24] So I don't think it comes up as often as it is right now.

[26:27] Yeah, right.

[26:27] That's how we can sell a lot of it.

[26:29] So that's why we nice stuff.

[26:30] This is where I don't have that.

[26:31] And sometimes it's different.

[26:32] Like if you're talking like construction, works, like that one is, those tend to, like,

[26:36] be compatible templates more because you're like swapping out the slopes, swapping out the

[26:41] past, the dates, whatever, but things like professional services, there's usually not necessarily

[26:46] template.

[26:46] you're just really very unique thing. When do we, well, it depends on how much you're doing

[26:53] and this sort of musician after you're going to be like, really do need to get out for study,

[26:58] you know, yeah, something I could, we do need to get out all of the existing contracts back

[27:05] into the cycle for RFP, so for example, maintenance. Yes, long, long. Yeah, I would agree. There's a lot

[27:13] that like pass is not what I'm not going to say it's like you know I can't find it then open for me

[27:20] but you know I mean like there's a lot that's been like I said a second or will you know when you

[27:24] listen because it's across the internet and it's there's no possible human way to get it all correct

[27:30] it in one month or anything like that so it's like we are definitely more free towards getting

[27:34] everything in better shape we terms of process law requirements and if we were to be looked at by

[27:42] state auditor. They can see our efforts and be like, yeah, people people are

[27:45] looking for that. Even if it's our life's query. So what we are getting

[27:48] and each thing is a proper list. But the number of things that I identify is

[27:53] like, well, that's been serving to me. Like, there's just no way to do it at

[27:57] fix all. So yeah, we're doing it. And I just, I'm laughing in the water every

[28:00] month. And yeah, the website. We're doing it. We're doing it. You know, so we'll get

[28:09] Yeah. Um, but we can't really send that to me because I, yeah, I just, I'm just trying

[28:18] to look at those times. And then, um, what else can you talk about in terms of both

[28:23] bathrooms, RFPs? I guess you have anything else, Tom. Are you going to be our early

[28:30] days mom's side? That seemed down since you put it for the ranch. You're, I mean, are

[28:34] were you getting the community people? No committee. And he asked what the next

[28:39] knee was. No, it was on it as well. I responded.

[28:43] He didn't know when the meetings

[28:44] were and things like that. And I explained where they let's see if I can just find that

[28:49] correspondence. I'll just subscribe. You want me to say he was well. So I've seen him

[28:54] all this information. He wanted to know if there was anything that involved even park,

[28:58] anything we needed. So he did reach out today about that. And he said he has a check for

[29:02] for the Valley Play Day.

[29:04] So I guess the Valley Play Day,

[29:05] Audra Valley Rat gave him a check

[29:08] for the rental of the public that day.

[29:11] The one that Rachel wrote up, the liability form for,

[29:15] because this isn't about a fee,

[29:16] that it was that something that you guys said.

[29:18] I mean, if you have, you know.

[29:20] This is, you see, the committees collect the fees,

[29:22] but like, for example.

[29:23] Post a fee, that's it, that's it, that's it.

[29:25] This does work, Rachel,

[29:26] it's running me at the top of her lungs

[29:28] and this is why I'm telling you guys

[29:29] that this doesn't work.

[29:30] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you need to have a good committee meeting and like honestly,

[29:38] and again, it's hard to choose the party.

[29:40] I've said that kind of structure.

[29:41] I've said that a form, but you might have already been on the media.

[29:44] Oh, good.

[29:45] We're starting that today.

[29:46] These structures.

[29:47] It's like, I don't know.

[29:48] I think the theme structure should be something on our website.

[29:51] This will all be central.

[29:52] We'll be very transparent.

[29:53] If any of us are the other thing that has to be the Poo-Roo-Clyde-Dored, that's it.

[29:59] Let's see if we can...

[30:02] The adoption has to be publicly noticed, and you have to have a public hearing before you adopt any sort of fees, any fee change has to be done through that process. It's very similar to the budget adoption. So it's not just something the committee can set it up. I know I said it over and over again. I'm still flagging. We have zero insight to any ledgers of what we need. I have to rate that.

[30:29] They are selecting the money and we are not collecting the money for fees that we don't

[30:35] know.

[30:36] We don't know.

[30:37] We don't know.

[30:39] We don't even know how to get the money from it.

[30:41] We don't know if we're getting it.

[30:43] When we learn that the money from the blue fest all goes to a separate organization.

[30:48] That was not a secret.

[30:51] Well, I want to have a very large discussion about that.

[30:59] I wanted to vote on Suzanne's project process.

[31:04] Yeah, I need that.

[31:05] Oh, I'm sorry.

[31:06] I'm sorry.

[31:07] Okay.

[31:08] I'm going to read this.

[31:08] I don't do what I do.

[31:09] I just go off on pageants.

[31:11] My follow-through.

[31:11] Okay.

[31:12] So the Liberty Park restroom repair was publicly posted,

[31:14] more than a week ago.

[31:15] and it was sent to directly ask 10 parties a bit to configure the work.

[31:19] The building period closed last night we received free beds. As stated in the RFK

[31:24] we are to select the lowest responsive and responsible bed for the

[31:29] excavation and water linux.

[31:32] So we are to select the lowest responsive and responsible bed.

[31:36] So for the excavation and water line installation portion

[31:39] and Wasatch value excavation submitted the lowest bid at $7,650

[31:44] with a permit allowance of $500 to be billed

[31:47] only if a permit is required.

[31:49] The next closest bid for dirt work was $9,340

[31:53] in the routine sense.

[31:54] From?

[31:55] That's from Bumlock Emory and Wasatch Exhibition.

[31:57] That was bid number two.

[31:59] It was from a company called,

[32:00] a former clear flat lapse.

[32:03] And Wasatch Valley, who originally was a white question

[32:07] I saw that there, so that's why I'm asking this.

[32:11] Lots of drivers who originally put it in and they shared everything.

[32:13] They put in the one inch as they were told to.

[32:16] He even shared that there was things that he asked to change the work proper,

[32:21] but they told him no.

[32:22] That's how they wanted it.

[32:23] And he said that he was very specific that he'd only fix it once on a valve.

[32:27] They had to do those a cheap valve.

[32:28] They said it was all price conscientious and that they didn't take any of his insight.

[32:33] So we just installed it as they wanted it.

[32:35] I was asked for a plan.

[32:37] It would have been the committee.

[32:39] And the one that you both said.

[32:40] Are you spreading it yet?

[32:41] Because I can tell you.

[32:42] So I'll say, and that's time where Bo's bid came in lower to see

[32:45] wants to.

[32:45] He feels bad about what happened, but he also really owns that.

[32:49] Or he made sure it was clear that this wasn't a mixture of.

[32:52] I did exactly as I was asked to do.

[32:54] Maybe document that.

[32:55] Just I'm just wondering if there was anything else he showed that.

[32:57] Yes, this was not.

[32:58] No, I guess not that he showed me.

[33:00] I can go back to ask that.

[33:01] Were you able to get any documentation for those of Stephanie?

[33:03] Yes, we have any kind of warranty or so I can read enough as like a quarter long

[33:10] The essential thing is they've been coming they've sent their plumber to read funding side of the building

[33:14] But they're not doing anything outside the building because they said that when it's just technically to code

[33:18] The issue is is that we ran one inch from so long that it's easy pressure. It's just too fast to work

[33:23] So they are taking ownership of the outside because they said that was we so we should have an engineer

[33:29] Realistically, when we got that back, when I say we handle some of us, but was it never

[33:34] engineered?

[33:35] I don't know much about that.

[33:37] I'm trying to say if I go, I don't know if I got that.

[33:40] Right.

[33:42] But now-

[33:42] Do you know if it was engineered?

[33:44] The project?

[33:48] Terry, so I-

[33:49] He tracked.

[33:50] I am.

[33:51] That's a little bit hard to track conversations once more with y'all.

[33:56] I can't really imagine.

[33:58] So I-

[33:58] Yeah, I forwarded a batch of emails that I

[34:04] Yeah, and I

[34:06] Something got stamped, and I can't remember

[34:11] There's a building some addicts on that water. Yeah

[34:15] Yeah, so I'm not sure I think in fact, I think whatever the

[34:18] The county must have a stamp thing though that they got for the permit

[34:27] Hold on I'm pulling up your email right now Tim and I found some documents

[34:32] I'm not from Matt Child Engineering for the Liberty Park bathroom in the design of the easy set great cast building.

[34:42] I'm looking for stamp drawings.

[34:47] Yeah, that's right.

[34:48] Doesn't matter anymore because we have to fix it.

[34:53] I don't know who's.

[34:54] Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong.

[34:55] Well, and I guess that would be the thing.

[34:56] It's like we found the stamp drawings.

[34:58] The only way that I guess would be orange is if it did say two and both solve one.

[35:02] And based on the drawings that wouldn't have been the silverware of the building.

[35:08] I mean, there's drawings in here, but I don't know about that.

[35:10] Yeah, I see the drawings, but they're not like...

[35:15] Did you get a filter?

[35:17] I have no idea.

[35:18] This is before any of us were on the building.

[35:21] We could go to the fountain.

[35:23] Yep.

[35:25] Well, I mean, Emily, you're not wrong.

[35:26] The reality is we have to fix this problem.

[35:28] Okay, so how are we going to choose, we only got two minutes or you said, okay, well so really big so I'm just finished that's who the most it was for

[35:36] Exhibition but now I have just what I'm to know before the vote on using that contractor

[35:41] I'm going to ask Rachel so there was a recommendation to watch that was such an excavation can sell a stop and waste valve and box

[35:49] Reversation an additional cost of 650 and to add a water connection line

[35:54] So it's said that the building for future use of every water going out of it for something else

[35:58] I'm going to be initial 1600 my question and three of these items are not included in the RFP

[36:03] But they appear to be reasonable suggestions that he made so this since with this

[36:09] Make it a new RFP help me add a line item to that

[36:14] I think so I think the water is why is it yeah?

[36:16] We're gonna use that space back there for anything. Here's what I suggest

[36:20] I mean, you got these bits. You can't be the guy that's so, so, so much.

[36:23] No, you have to do it.

[36:24] You need to set it out to us, and we all need to look at it.

[36:27] And because it can't be just purely based on price.

[36:30] Because if someone comes back to the price,

[36:33] but they don't meet all the requirements,

[36:34] or their past performance is terrible, or whatever,

[36:37] and they don't want to settle.

[36:38] We had a three-way score.

[36:41] Yes.

[36:41] So what is going to be our scoring metric on this?

[36:44] Well, we did convert it to a, you did our question.

[36:46] Did you just saw my RFP right?

[36:48] I had evaluation criteria.

[36:50] Yes.

[36:51] And that's where I now, I forwarded on when Rachel came back,

[36:54] she had a mention for the price thing was how listed

[36:57] in the RFP.

[36:58] But I'm not sure.

[37:00] Yeah, I'm not sure.

[37:00] If you could please do it.

[37:02] And that's why I asked the question, like, are you

[37:03] wanting to purchase based on price alone?

[37:06] Because you can do requests for quotes on those.

[37:09] If you set the qualifications, if you have

[37:11] to make these minimum qualifications,

[37:12] then after that, those take whoever's cheapest.

[37:14] And then the alternative is doing what the proposal, like if you have like other factors of the thing cost that are more important than you want to consider.

[37:22] That's performance, for example.

[37:23] Right. And in this one, we opted to do the cost one, but if that's not what we want to do, we can remit it and do it differently.

[37:32] But the way that we, we weren't in this one is like as long as you met the qualifications, we're just, because it's a small project, we're just going for costs on the summit.

[37:41] But we don't have to do it that way, but we would just have to do it.

[37:43] I'm just nervous of no information provided showing that the error was going to be sent.

[37:52] I don't know.

[37:52] Well, and then, um, it was about.

[37:55] So then the next date for paperwork was 93, 9,340.

[38:01] So it's going to be like a design?

[38:03] No, no, that's, that would be easy.

[38:05] That was about just shy of $2,000.

[38:07] But that was the third, so I have that one right down already.

[38:12] Sorry. I have three beds under some of the book that I'm here for now.

[38:24] It's been the

[38:24] general contract,

[38:29] the general contractor, who's going to be the guy to oversee the coordination

[38:33] between the excavation and I know it's in the contract, they have to coordinate with each other

[38:40] and I'm also happy to oversee it as well. I think I found the right document but

[38:50] I have to have my

[38:51] has been looking at this to tell me if this, what this says, two inches.

[38:55] This is really, and then the other bit that came in was that fine.

[38:58] I can't read that stuff.

[38:59] I don't think I, I'm not going to get rid of that 9,500 in change.

[39:06] Okay, I wonder if those, if those, who other bids include those add-ons automatically,

[39:12] they just didn't mention them because they're standard, that's not a standard,

[39:17] and on a stand up.

[39:18] He's a big kind of suggestion.

[39:20] They saw him back.

[39:21] He's lived here in like, if you practice bull, I always

[39:24] know that he was a sanction for the park.

[39:26] And he knows.

[39:27] We did wanna say that the shut off.

[39:29] Well, the first one.

[39:30] He wants that to shut off.

[39:31] Well, because he recommends you win or I,

[39:33] I just think that he knows how outrageous it is.

[39:35] This is in contact.

[39:36] And I'm not saying we should give it to him or not.

[39:38] I'm just saying this is because this is someone who lives in

[39:41] in this valley, knows where our temperatures are,

[39:43] and knows what the possibility for the perk expansion

[39:46] looks like, and that's why he's saying this stuff in it.

[39:48] So we're not trenching this whole,

[39:50] I mean, I drove by there every day.

[39:52] They trenched it.

[39:52] That perk was a surface of mud for a long time.

[39:55] So in an effort to not trench this,

[39:57] again, that's what he's suggesting.

[39:59] And you found a document that does say two inches,

[40:01] but who, well, I just found the trench design.

[40:07] So I married to a content editor of London that I don't

[40:12] want to be one by any means, but I found a French design.

[40:16] I think it's going to be a septic system.

[40:18] But as I know, it's actually an anti-fantastic network.

[40:20] I guess you're going to see something.

[40:23] And this is where it's talking about all the dimensions.

[40:26] I think this is the right document.

[40:29] Because if we have something that shows one engine that is clear

[40:32] that he was given the wrong information and I feel,

[40:35] I feel the same way about that, as long as it's not that we have a problem.

[40:40] It was a fall and we should be able to have something, you should have something that says,

[40:43] here's what I was told, but just verbally, but in some documents, I think we could proceed.

[40:47] How do you guys feel?

[40:48] I'm fine with you.

[40:48] And if he's saying that he tried to bring up some of his concerns during the building process,

[40:55] because he did say that to you.

[40:57] Yeah, I didn't add to it probably so much what he said.

[40:59] I said, there's a lot of little line I don't know.

[41:00] Hey, if it was me, I would do this to you and I would do the shut off.

[41:04] I imagine if I very similarly were we made recommendations.

[41:06] Yeah, so let's ask for that.

[41:10] If you can ask them and say, hey, we just have a board here.

[41:12] We need to approve.

[41:12] We just want to make sure there wasn't a mess up on your end.

[41:15] And then we're rehiring, you know, the error and all this.

[41:25] And let them know that none of us were a part of that.

[41:27] So we don't know.

[41:28] Yeah, yeah.

[41:29] So then at this point in time, so we're not voting to approve

[41:32] that error, so we're ready for a clarification.

[41:34] If you can get the clarification, I say we can move forward.

[41:36] Can we vote for that? If all is clear, we have clarification and go ahead and hire.

[41:40] Both of them. I think we're struggling now. I haven't seen the puzzles yet.

[41:46] So I'm back to where we're letting him make the decision purely.

[41:50] Well, if things were to qualify, it's literally just changing out of one inch to a two inch.

[41:58] I ended the field, that's it.

[42:01] So it's not like it's like filling up.

[42:02] I'm not sure this sort of like I pulled up thumbs did like this is really like the information as far as I

[42:07] think it's similar like we did with Rachel. We had three people who went to the all of the.

[42:13] I don't doubt you.

[42:15] I'm not trying to draw one in the sand. I'm just doing with the contracts that I will

[42:19] for.

[42:20] As long as they meet the criteria, which would be licensed insured like qualified is your

[42:26] both of the pages are that qualifiers, but that's, but my extra qualification that's why I'm asking you guys would be that we just want to make sure that, you know, prove that he wasn't the one that kind of got something that's wires crossed some speaker pipes, and I also just say that if we draft this properly, if he were to not do it right, then the liabilities on him, we absolutely need something that this should have never happened.

[42:49] I mean, if this were a bigger project, I would be a longer book, but this is a freaking

[42:55] replacing type and we need batches.

[42:57] Or they're out there.

[42:59] Does he have a date that he can have the project?

[43:02] So as a part of our fee, I believe the date on it was June 21st or everyone's well aware that we need time

[43:07] to testing and have a share for that.

[43:09] And he could do that.

[43:11] But, um, something to, I guess that we could do because I'm sorry, I'm not gonna be

[43:16] obeying them over there.

[43:16] At least that's a middle video.

[43:17] Um, is the thing I could just read it on being qualified, or if we decided based on

[43:22] the first thing that that makes them not qualified, and we just moved to the next way.

[43:25] That's true.

[43:26] Yeah.

[43:28] So, if we decide tomorrow, we're gonna go forward.

[43:31] How we write and check for this guy when we don't have access to our finances.

[43:36] I got the one, the firm will do that. They said they'll be the interim accounting for us.

[43:43] They confirm that today and he said, go ahead and receive those under the amount that we

[43:47] voted on.

[43:47] One thing that I would say could be, obviously beneficial, that's impartial, but maybe beneficial

[43:55] is the person who's second in the bid was a general contractor to bid all three items.

[44:01] let me actually blind the other two items. So the three scopes, the three scopes are the

[44:06] trenching and waterline concrete and they connect in it. What was the overall difference then

[44:12] if that we separated them versus with that? We'll be about $2,000. Don't worry. Correct.

[44:18] And then we can communicate with him if those things were included or if we decided we want to

[44:22] include them because it's a good recommendation when we could I'm sure to probably assume

[44:26] similar cost difference. Could I imagine that 9,000 of them are considering his and some

[44:32] reason some are sort of difference, you know, like a hundred bucks. I imagine that's probably

[44:36] if they're going right and we got the discount from Wasatch Battle, we just based on he said he

[44:40] wants to make it right. The only other things that I feel like would it make streamlined in having

[44:47] one company doing it, can they also have it done by June 21st? It's a part of the RFP, so because

[44:53] They're not having to have a no general contract. They're having a work together. We have to go work pretty quick.

[45:10] I guess I'm with Suzanne that I'm fighting with forward with the lower bid and add on the things they suggested as long as the contract is bomb proof that if there is like water sport, not that a month, they have to come fix it.

[45:27] A standard contract should take us a 12 month warranty, yeah, no matter what.

[45:31] Yeah.

[45:32] And the contract should raise, you know, ask her plan as like in the plan says it's the

[45:38] two in it.

[45:38] Like, yeah.

[45:39] The sort of example we're at, we're writing a contract that are in that stuff that we'd

[45:43] have sold through.

[45:44] Usually, I thought they'd have that as part of there.

[45:47] Okay.

[45:47] Yeah.

[45:48] With these, some of these you often accept theirs.

[45:50] And I don't take up a contract as well.

[45:52] It's just sort of accepting.

[45:53] But on their contract, they're giving you a bit that you would say.

[46:02] Yeah, they don't give us a bid. Yeah, it's going to give us a scope of work. Yeah, that they're going to ask us to sign. We still need to request a copy of their liability insurance

[46:12] contractor's license and workers call. I will die on that worst, but it needs to be for every sub that we work for every contractor that we work for.

[46:26] I was thinking, I'm straight out of the state.

[46:29] Well, you get attached to it.

[46:33] To the one that replied, part of the lies.

[46:36] So just to share, as I'm sharing kind of

[46:38] to me, you guys more involved with the bids,

[46:41] the fly works actually could provide everything you asked for

[46:44] as a part of their bid.

[46:45] Oh, with their bid.

[46:46] I just say, this is more of a normal,

[46:47] normal stuff for, and could we get on

[46:51] to all those websites and build their contactors license

[46:53] for sure we could, but this is a normal thing

[46:59] that's not our job to move.

[47:00] It's not our job to move.

[47:02] That's why I was like, we should be asking this for everybody.

[47:06] And all the fireworks one of those is costing a bit more for the site.

[47:09] The first one's not competent or whatever.

[47:13] Just something I guess they consider.

[47:14] We budgeted, which is also a good thing why we did it out.

[47:19] We didn't go through who we almost used it for.

[47:21] We budgeted $20,000.

[47:23] It was the original bid.

[47:24] That was the same one we got.

[47:25] and this is coming in right now for the entire project that I was having there.

[47:29] Why build insurance?

[47:30] Yeah, we require it.

[47:31] I'm looking at that from the insurance.

[47:33] Yes.

[47:33] So the bid right now on the first and two on two of the bid,

[47:35] we're not the dirt run for $13,800,000.

[47:38] So we actually are coming about $6,000

[47:41] under our budget alignment of what, like, initial.

[47:44] And you said that doesn't include fixing the apron around it?

[47:47] That includes.

[47:48] So this data needs a trenching and water line installation that's scope one.

[47:53] Scope series, Concord demolition, and replacement.

[47:56] And there's more to the scopes.

[47:57] Let me show you in a broadie version.

[47:59] Scope three is plumbing connection and cord drilling.

[48:02] And that comes up.

[48:03] That's where he's going to go.

[48:04] And that comes up.

[48:05] So for that, he's a general contractor.

[48:07] So for him to do the whole thing, he's $13,800 for the total

[48:12] project.

[48:12] I kind of like the idea of one person doing all of that.

[48:15] That's a good thought.

[48:16] I think it'll streamline it.

[48:17] Because if you have two parties involved,

[48:18] they're not trying to connect.

[48:19] And then they maybe just get a good reward.

[48:22] And then the general, what you're saying, it's not one of us.

[48:25] The lowest responsive response that they have for each stoke or in a district's best interest

[48:30] to the lowest responsive and responsive, but are for the combined project.

[48:34] So, even if the buy one was more than individual ones, they still were the lowest who offered

[48:41] for the whole thing.

[48:43] Yes.

[48:43] And that's specifically in there that says you do that.

[48:45] And who's the 13 grand one that does it all?

[48:47] They're called flat works.

[48:49] Like that one, doesn't it?

[48:50] I would ask them to.

[48:56] Yeah.

[48:57] Yeah.

[48:58] It's a responsible bitters better than the licensing experience, resources, insurance,

[49:02] capacity, and delivery to form the work.

[49:04] So if you guys determine that we don't like your experience, then you're no longer a responsible

[49:08] bitters.

[49:09] Uh-huh.

[49:10] We just followed by you for not being a responsible bitters.

[49:12] And that was a nice thing.

[49:13] Thanks.

[49:13] I said, they actually included all their insurance.

[49:17] And we were part of it.

[49:18] Yeah.

[49:22] So you know what we could do instead of asking to put the additional requirements on now

[49:28] and have them rebit it, just go move forward because we know the price is way lower than

[49:32] what our budget is, move forward but give the guy, hey, we're providing a change order.

[49:37] This is what the change order is.

[49:40] And some of the stuff I just found, so this guy did provide a full line item scope and

[49:46] He actually has in there CTF fittings, confidence,

[49:50] tight riser sleeve, and stop and waste valve.

[49:52] So he didn't include that stuff in there.

[49:54] That's the other way else that we started this.

[49:56] Maybe not the freeze one.

[49:58] Do you want to confirm that is what it is?

[50:01] So that is not exactly what we think it is.

[50:04] And so then in terms of contract,

[50:06] I said the selected contractor will be required

[50:08] to enter through written agreement with purchase order

[50:10] except the goal to the mystery.

[50:12] And then you weren't.

[50:13] Contract will include Adam and Mom

[50:14] and then I listed the types of terms, but because I was Russian, I didn't create a list of terms

[50:19] of issues. I did. But I'm yours. I didn't have it. I didn't have it. It's very common

[50:25] space. Yes.

[50:28] That's awesome. That's awesome. Sometimes I do have this or something to say.

[50:31] We'll give us your standard contract and one thing to look at it and see if it's acceptable.

[50:35] But if you've already got that too, then it's different. Yeah. Oh, I didn't expect one space.

[50:39] But the state one does have a lot of states to set it up in there. So if you took the time to go

[50:44] through a modem by then that's what I didn't feel like I had time to do so then if we're okay with

[50:50] one of these guys that sounds kind of different than we need you just to have a general do it.

[50:55] We made was going to award it to the general and then Tom can do the awarding version if you want to

[51:00] if you have all those T and Zs or yeah. Or you can just go ahead and do whatever.

[51:08] I hear the verb back to on the key because that's another issue that we have

[51:13] I think I dropped that. I think I don't even know if I reached out to Chris.

[51:18] Okay.

[51:18] Yeah.

[51:18] I need to figure out how to get in through.

[51:20] You have this phone number.

[51:21] You have the list, right?

[51:22] Chris Allen's phone number.

[51:23] How you hold it up?

[51:23] Should be it.

[51:24] Okay.

[51:24] So I gotta find that.

[51:25] Chris saw it in my phone.

[51:27] The plumber Chris got us in.

[51:28] He got the key from Chris Allen.

[51:30] But he really met the keys.

[51:31] That's the same issue.

[51:32] It was the same.

[51:33] This contract was in.

[51:34] Unless we just want to add.

[51:35] Changing the locks.

[51:35] That thing is a part of this.

[51:39] We should probably get access to all the park that we have to look at.

[51:45] In that point, that's gonna be the top of your key.

[51:49] So I know my wife showed me a face of post or someone was playing about the Liberty Park

[51:53] Resonance.

[51:54] And now it's unlocks.

[51:56] Somebody said, it was unlocks and I got right there.

[51:58] And I didn't get lost.

[52:00] So it should be locked.

[52:01] Yes.

[52:02] So there's definitely those keys in the wilderness.

[52:04] Okay, so we can change the point of things that everything needs to be re-locked.

[52:09] Okay, re-keyed.

[52:10] Re-keyed.

[52:11] I mean, it should be a keypad, guys.

[52:14] And then there's only end-to-conchanges.

[52:17] End-to-conchanges.

[52:18] That it's just a one-time code that somebody can get in.

[52:22] If you have an adventure, give it a try.

[52:23] We can run stuff for graduation.

[52:26] Yeah.

[52:27] That's the same as the ballet, right?

[52:29] Yeah.

[52:29] the nice thing about the battery and Eden is that it is connected to Wi-Fi. We don't have Wi-Fi at

[52:35] the same time. But you still can work in that. Yeah, use that battery. Yeah, that's a battery in it.

[52:39] Why do we then lock other than like night hours and one to a time? Like they're public

[52:45] brushrooms. I guess I'm not following that. I'm just saying so that he can just so that we have

[52:51] access to it. Yeah, I currently don't have access. Right. So we just have it unlocked all the time.

[52:57] and it's set for when we want to go manually, I think.

[53:02] It's locked right now because the project is that.

[53:04] But I thought most cities on the new restaurant facilities,

[53:07] they have timers where they just naturally lock up.

[53:09] That's what Gallaudet is saying about the new bathroom.

[53:12] I think that's what it is.

[53:13] So these guys have a lot of green up with them.

[53:14] And then have like, old guys that chose that thing.

[53:17] These are the boxes to allow the bathroom to sit.

[53:19] That's the problem.

[53:20] That is the problem.

[53:23] But here, let's give us money so we can put that inside.

[53:29] You just can't get to it, just can't waste.

[53:35] Okay, so is there any making a motion then to go forward with flat works?

[53:39] Yep.

[53:40] I, I, I motion and we vote for flat works.

[53:46] Award the contract.

[53:46] I certainly.

[53:47] Award the contract and subject to negotiate the apple track.

[53:51] Curves.

[53:52] Good job.

[53:53] Yep.

[53:54] Who wants second?

[53:55] I second.

[53:58] And do you want to indicate that the board chair be the person

[54:04] of our assignment contract only not the board?

[54:07] Yes.

[54:08] I mean, you submitted that for the comment and we add to that

[54:14] that Emily will sign the contract.

[54:18] So we have liberty bathroom, repair, and emotion.

[54:41] Okay, so then for follow-up, then just for action items on that, I'll ship them an email

[54:47] and I'll CC Tom and say like, they're just telling me, hey, you're really good. Tom's

[54:50] going to coordinate contracts. Is that okay? Yeah. Okay. Cool. You're on sign. Very.

[54:56] Well, sign. Yeah. But I'll works.

[55:02] Next, I want to vote on Suzanne's proposal so that people

[55:06] doing all this stuff can get the next steps in place. And just because we vote on it,

[55:11] that doesn't mean it can't ever be edited. Yeah. So we're going to find things that are going to need

[55:15] some changes to be a living document, but I think it's good. I added, you know, my thoughts to it.

[55:21] I'll give you like a quick high level. First, you just said these.

[55:27] He said, he wanted to know who it gets sent to, how are they inputs to track. I just want to address

[55:32] that it'll all be in the Google Drive, whatever we set up, but it will just be an excel sheet at any point

[55:38] we can all access and see what's in there,

[55:42] and then the goal of lots.

[55:46] The goal is that when as we're getting those requests,

[55:50] we as a committee have a scoring process,

[55:53] which is all kind of set up, and then every meeting,

[55:57] we just take a quick touch.

[55:59] Are there any of these that we want

[56:00] in the plus state formal presentations?

[56:03] Yeah, some of them.

[56:05] I think any works in progress,

[56:08] we should be discussing quickly.

[56:10] Yeah, just getting updates about it.

[56:11] Yeah, yeah.

[56:13] Well, we all started.

[56:16] Yeah, there we go.

[56:18] And he wants to involve the park committee.

[56:22] The point in stage two, I'm going to table that.

[56:26] And so we redo the park committees.

[56:28] I was going to find that really quickly.

[56:31] If we want my opinion, if we want park committees to be a part of that projects,

[56:36] then we need to just expand our communities and re-create them because there's not a representation

[56:40] in them.

[56:41] Yeah, no, I'm going to ignore any of that.

[56:44] I think that's an example of people.

[56:45] So that's I think we can, I think that we just remove selection of the earth at the time

[56:49] we end up.

[56:50] Yeah, agree.

[56:51] Yeah, agree.

[56:52] I agree.

[56:53] I agree.

[56:55] No, I agree.

[56:55] It's not going to be good.

[56:56] I mean, my hard thing is eating part has historically come through and done what has been

[57:02] asked of them.

[57:03] They have a very, and I will say, they can get projects through, that's so great.

[57:11] I mean, the parking, you know, the baseball diamond and the boulders, however, as a community

[57:16] member, not on the board during the time, some of those things were in motion, I didn't

[57:19] know anything about it.

[57:20] Yeah.

[57:21] It happened without any community input and things like that.

[57:25] So that's why we're trying to do this process because that was the committee in charge of making

[57:28] they were supposedly the ones, you know, gathering info and it didn't reflect

[57:33] survey, it didn't reflect anything in terms of like public demand. Okay, then the

[57:39] third piece was on more of the evaluation and methodology based on size

[57:45] performance costs. That's great. We can do that as a second notion is like our

[57:50] evaluation process but as far as intake, I believe I will gut check this. I believe

[57:56] how many people will be affected is in the form if not all at it because that's part of the grant applications is they ask like how many people are going to answer that question.

[58:06] It's pretty easy in the valley because you know our population.

[58:10] Yeah, but other than that, I think the biggest piece is stage one, two, three initial interest.

[58:17] That's just anybody can submit.

[58:19] then we would, the next step is that formal presentation is similar to what we got and

[58:26] then the stage three is the RFPs, the details, the budget and everything else.

[58:34] And proof of funds?

[58:36] Are we ready?

[58:36] I'd like to make a motion to vote on this as part of our policy for the projects.

[58:42] There's a quick thing though because I'm not, of course you want all the money that we

[58:47] can get, but I mean, I think we do have money. Yeah, do we always need a rent or a grant? No,

[58:54] no, no, no. And that's kind of, that's kind of like my big thing. It's like, okay, we'll

[58:59] kind of try to bring in like 80 cents like, okay, we can't continue to hoard money. No, I'm all about

[59:03] what matters now, be a living owner, which you can see. Yes, so that's one of things like, I think

[59:07] there's some projects that we could fund and pull. I just think we're starting to finally move on

[59:12] projects. Like, things were so stalled, lusher, nothing got done. So, I think now that we're starting

[59:18] to move, I'd love to maximize our use of those ones and get moving on. Also, that phase work.

[59:24] We can start in a first phase, get the grant from the second phase. We're not just waiting for

[59:28] January of year going there. Right. One chance. And then everything fell apart.

[59:31] Also, file grants for retro expenses of your fantastic. Oh, so that's great. Yeah, I agree with you.

[59:38] Yeah, we do have money for smaller little hanging fruit that's not going to take up space for future grandiose ideas like an indoor and that's I will say a part of that that third phase is like, yeah, they could come to it and maybe it's a $50,000 project museum. Let's just get it done and we get it done right.

[59:53] We can also know it's just approving them to get the information that we're interested in.

[59:57] It's getting away for people to make suggestions.

[1:00:00] Yes, that's the biggest piece. And we will track that. That's an easy and easy analysis.

[1:00:06] So 12th, 12th, 17th, and you can see.

[1:00:08] Okay.

[1:00:09] Are we ready to vote?

[1:00:10] I said in that view, but where are you?

[1:00:13] Yeah, the motion of I'll seconded.

[1:00:14] In the ocean.

[1:00:15] We'll see you guys.

[1:00:16] Bye.

[1:00:19] Bye.

[1:00:25] Tanner?

[1:00:27] Hi.

[1:00:29] Oh, it's okay.

[1:00:32] Okay.

[1:00:34] Um, so 13th, 13th kind of go together, their documents that Rachel put together.

[1:00:41] It's follow-up discussion on structure of committee and the legal recommendations.

[1:00:46] Rachel put together a draft. I just did a one-time read-through.

[1:00:50] Oh, we're going to come in. It's obviously.

[1:00:53] Yes, and it's just in the beginning stages. I kind of found that to connect to our insurance

[1:01:00] and this renewal form I've been putting together, because all the information on there

[1:01:03] is not consuming and not working on the renewal.

[1:01:06] Yes.

[1:01:06] Okay, because he the gentleman that I spoke with Darren said that he's been reaching out to Maul and he has. I finally got me okay

[1:01:14] And he's like, and I'm not hearing back and he goes, I don't want to come to you. It was great because we are a little behind

[1:01:20] Yes, if it was to in March and there's a whole sheep that's another assessment. It's a

[1:01:25] Subscribe. So if yes, he's

[1:01:28] That up to me that we have Crane and cyber coverage and about about the whole fraud thing because it's a bigger issue

[1:01:34] So I started it and it was just so Rachel and I maybe the three of us could work on that on the side as a task force to get that done as soon as possible.

[1:01:43] But with that there was so many things that connected to the committees that did not align things like what how many employees do you have how many paid volunteers how many or whatever paid.

[1:01:51] And it was like it was like zero zero zero. Look, that's not true because we've paid Todd we've paid Janet we've paid those are employees.

[1:01:58] they are employees. They're 10. I mean, is it W2?

[1:02:06] What? On a few old issues? There's this

[1:02:08] issue because there wasn't I mean, there was things like

[1:02:10] I was not I posted that. Yeah, and you're gonna see it as

[1:02:13] order was saying, any tourist spending money on the

[1:02:15] men's comp and all those things and I was just like

[1:02:17] cleansed for people. So that was the thing that showed me

[1:02:20] a lot more messy areas that I

[1:02:25] You're going to start with the museum thing?

[1:02:28] It's the committee yet.

[1:02:29] So I drafted a policy, but it is extraordinarily draft, like, because I still just have stuff

[1:02:35] on my foot.

[1:02:36] I don't want to change them.

[1:02:37] This is a good thing.

[1:02:39] So it's weird.

[1:02:39] I'm going to draft a policy or something, but I'm like, what is this even for?

[1:02:43] And I said this for like, I don't want to blow up the treaties, because I know that it's

[1:02:48] really want to some people, but just for a minute.

[1:02:54] It's like imagine like this being a city

[1:02:56] government, like a district going ahead and like if you're a city government, you're not just

[1:03:00] going to have like citizen groups running the city for you and taking money and charging random fees

[1:03:05] and operating your facilities that you have going after you or what they are who has the key to

[1:03:10] your building, you know, like you guys need to operate as like an official like serious organization

[1:03:16] because you are. And are you reminding us that we are the only people living this? We are the

[1:03:22] old work service that operates out of this. Yeah. And our numbers are the ones that we district.

[1:03:27] Liable for any of their decisions. Yeah. And what it wants to take the heat every time, every time.

[1:03:35] Correct. And the risk is not theoretical. Like there is a person right now who is going out and like

[1:03:45] find that he's suing local government enemies. He just dropped a hole in 40 this last week.

[1:03:50] He's suing government enemies for violating the open and public meetings apps, specifically closed meeting requirements.

[1:03:56] Does he live up to 30 miles?

[1:03:57] I don't know who he is.

[1:03:59] He's suing the board board and the age of 33.

[1:04:04] I'm going to, that's not related to this issue, but point meetings.

[1:04:07] He's not in the community.

[1:04:09] It's true.

[1:04:10] People like are going to be trying to consider things wrong.

[1:04:13] You could be sued for this, like that is happening.

[1:04:17] And so that's just one example of not complying with the public meetings

[1:04:20] and particularly getting people for closing meetings requirements.

[1:04:28] So anyway, as a government entity, like you own the property,

[1:04:32] you set the fees, you assess the money, you get the property taxes.

[1:04:37] So to have just some like random citizens who are setting fees, like that's not compliant

[1:04:42] with the talk code.

[1:04:44] Like your budget process, it is a very specific Utah code section that details how you

[1:04:51] knock a budget for many budgets, and it's the same with fees, like there's a whole, you

[1:04:57] should have a fee schedule, which shows here's all the fees that we assess, and that should

[1:05:01] be adopted in a very similar manner to how you do a budget, you have to put it on.

[1:05:05] I don't know if you have to have a, yeah, I don't know what I have to do, but it's a

[1:05:09] really good thing.

[1:05:09] As you know, they're saying the same things.

[1:05:11] You guys want me to know things, like a few of these things are probably a central task

[1:05:15] force and get done relatively prepared.

[1:05:19] I mean, I think we need something on each one of our items that are on the agenda, some

[1:05:23] kind of problem.

[1:05:24] Well, you can just see how certain drafts as well.

[1:05:27] A lot of you don't do the draft.

[1:05:28] I mean, it says it need to be a verbatim.

[1:05:31] There's a word for it.

[1:05:32] I think you're justifying the reason.

[1:05:34] I mean, I didn't grab, you know, action item after meals.

[1:05:37] Some of you being forward.

[1:05:38] So like when you said, like, we need to do this

[1:05:40] and it's like, Pays, this should just be a task

[1:05:42] course where you push it.

[1:05:43] Well, there's more.

[1:05:44] And things like with fees and stuff,

[1:05:46] like I think that also is in line

[1:05:48] with hiring a finance person,

[1:05:50] because they're going to work all over.

[1:05:52] And the web site and the booking class,

[1:05:53] so it's like, I'll be on the spot.

[1:05:55] I don't have it eventually.

[1:05:56] Yeah, and that's one of those things,

[1:05:57] like I see so many issues and you can't dress loans.

[1:06:00] But I'm talking more just the committees in general.

[1:06:03] like it just feels weird to me that it happens to many of the people that are running their

[1:06:07] work in a recession in a way that's... So why don't we recreate in the will? Huntsville already

[1:06:12] does this. What's up? Why are we going to recreate the will? Huntsville already has all this in

[1:06:18] place. Huntsville, let's... For their part, everything you're describing. They have a committee?

[1:06:23] No, well, it's a council. Yeah, they're right. But my point is, set in fees, like she said, right?

[1:06:29] Yeah. So they think some errors too. So for instance, with the pickleball, they are kind of like

[1:06:37] merged with other nonprofits. Yeah, the Ogde Valley Pickleball and tennis association.

[1:06:44] They get the money for their facility and now it's like blurry. So they have made some mistakes.

[1:06:49] So they have to perfect what we can learn from those mistakes. Right now, what we have to kind of

[1:06:54] clean and re-structure and reconfigure is these committees because the way

[1:06:59] everything was established and the other board members will say historically

[1:07:02] this is how we've done it historically this is what started the committees

[1:07:05] were here before the board all those things are true they all all those things

[1:07:08] also don't follow the law so that's what we have to merge the old with the new in a

[1:07:12] way that works so we're not making anybody upset we're not trying to be bullies

[1:07:16] it's our way of the highway but utilize all their resources their volunteer

[1:07:20] your service, everything, but in a way that's not managing

[1:07:22] monies, it's not doing the platforms, it's not just like,

[1:07:25] oh, I got a chat, it's too loose on that.

[1:07:28] So we don't want to make them disempower when we continue

[1:07:31] empowering them, but we have to do things in a legal way.

[1:07:35] And that's where agency at work.

[1:07:36] I don't exactly have to undo the tangle.

[1:07:40] You know, so I mean, I've dropped to the policy,

[1:07:42] and I want you guys to read it and then see,

[1:07:45] because the question is like, what is the curvy of a committee like in a field?

[1:07:52] What are they going to do? Like, what is the purpose?

[1:07:55] Can we have a meeting and ask them their chair, at least, and their members to come

[1:07:59] present to us what they do? I mean, I've been asking for that.

[1:08:03] My head has been asked them to come.

[1:08:05] Yeah. I mean, specifically.

[1:08:06] The chair has been there.

[1:08:08] I'm going to talk about it.

[1:08:09] because I imagine it's individual. Okay, because it's specific for self-awareness. I just know

[1:08:13] that's what it sounds like. This will be a very heated thing. It's no matter what we do, I think

[1:08:18] like it's going to have to be you issuing the statement of like known as malicious,

[1:08:23] but like you legally, like this isn't as easy as you guys saying these committees, or trying to change

[1:08:27] parks, this is super illegal. You're going to have to be like, I am with my kids sometimes and it

[1:08:33] sounds like, I will take the blame, I will be the bad guy, but I was just getting like,

[1:08:38] kind of reminds me that I was saying there's a reason for this and I'm sorry like the reason but

[1:08:45] this is the legal way for I'm just like I say to my kids like there's a reason that I'm telling you

[1:08:49] this I'm sorry you don't like it and I'm the bad guy but I have to do a little bit of this information

[1:08:53] and that is what we do that we have to get our act together. Yeah we have to get our act together.

[1:08:59] So the things you were suggesting like fees schedule stuff like that you're going out with an RFP

[1:09:03] for clients person right now but now you're coming up with an additional task that we don't

[1:09:07] have an ARP.

[1:09:10] We can create the face structure and we have bookie platform so things like renting

[1:09:14] the power. The problem is is that the committee members are the ones doing all that and they're

[1:09:18] not paid. I know, but it's only to collect the money. That would be the France character. Again,

[1:09:26] we don't have that in the ARP, do we? Oh, it's in here. Well, I dropped it one that I just

[1:09:32] it's quite obvious because that's what I anticipate that you need is like a

[1:09:37] finance person who's last manager okay I'm sorry I'm afraid she'll

[1:09:44] emphasize the last meeting that she wants kind of yeah like a working manager

[1:09:48] that was for a great way. The record is like I honestly think you ought to hire like

[1:09:53] either a district administrator or a general manager either as an employee or contract

[1:09:58] track type person, but I know that's a big change and a big step, but completely upward

[1:10:06] sets policy, adopts budgets, sets fees, sets directions, and then there's management

[1:10:13] that runs an organization, you know, but this is also a great suggestion of having an admin

[1:10:19] person, well that's what I'm saying. It was a challenge to stop that kind of admin finance.

[1:10:23] That's why we see so much trouble here because you guys are doing the dual roles.

[1:10:28] The legislative branch and the executive branch basically like you're you're setting the rules and you're also having to literally run the district

[1:10:37] So I switch out to our like most functioning people down and Todd and

[1:10:43] Say these like Janet and we need Janet and say on that right that's not gonna talk about right now

[1:10:48] I'm saying why don't we reach out to those two and say like a draft what we want these positions to do and say look

[1:10:55] these committees are not legal, would you be interested in taking on this role and being like a higher person over

[1:11:03] both the parks that are now in the new city. This would have to be a full RFP, they would have to tell us.

[1:11:07] Oh, great, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't think anybody on the park's board wants to be that person or the committee. Sorry, no, but I'm the committee.

[1:11:17] But I think that might get bridged to say we don't have anything against you. We still want you involved.

[1:11:22] You're finished with anything with them and then if they tap out, then it's a bear right because they I don't want to

[1:11:28] He's got huge separate issues committees and admin

[1:11:31] But not really because the committees have been running the parties. They've been doing everything

[1:11:36] I would like to tell you all of that. I think this is a more on that whatever you've drafted

[1:11:42] I think we need to look at it as governor and I know there are so many ways it can go. Yeah, but

[1:11:48] I think that's what I guess. You might read it and think, okay, these are the sorts of things I need to be thinking about and what is a case as to be doing.

[1:11:55] I feel like it creates just some rules.

[1:11:59] You know, some basic rules that we have to at least do these things.

[1:12:02] And then there's a lot of flexibility in there.

[1:12:04] But I think we need to study that what you put together so far.

[1:12:07] And then you'll identify, like, oh no, we don't have them doing this or we do want them doing this.

[1:12:11] And it's different how I've written it or whatever.

[1:12:14] I think they can morph ever so slightly, so like, okay, monies go through, you know, our

[1:12:20] finance person, our way of saying it, and I get concerned when I hear things like they're

[1:12:23] going out and getting bids and getting contracts and stuff, but it's like, correct.

[1:12:28] That's the same reason why child's lawn child was a treasure, it says, the designer for Liberty

[1:12:35] Master Plan was JUV who, Greg, just retired from everybody's got, they were never doing RFP,

[1:12:41] So some of this has a little gap in you to be undone.

[1:12:44] Yeah, so when I do private business in my private business can't operate that way.

[1:12:49] Right.

[1:12:49] This is government.

[1:12:50] Oh, yeah.

[1:12:50] So if that's my problem.

[1:12:51] Like just high level, I just for the because I've been reading through this, so like the

[1:12:55] committee can perceive rental inquiries, give information out and system calendars, communicate

[1:13:02] logistical information, make recommendations regarding routine scheduling.

[1:13:09] I appreciate this list of what they cannot do without the board, which is wave fees, all of that, approve non-retain high-risk requests, authorized vendors, food trucks, etc.

[1:13:23] Yeah, non-retain U-S-P-S. Yeah, that's like the event.

[1:13:26] right. So like routine would be like, I don't know if you're not like it. You wouldn't have an

[1:13:30] a birthday party. Can we use the Pability? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a routine request.

[1:13:34] But what basically from what I read, that Dr. Valley Rex said this was a baseball tournament,

[1:13:39] but what they rented, the perk floor was rented. I read through the whole thing and it said,

[1:13:44] oh, we had a residence for a baseball event and this has nothing to do with it. This is not a

[1:13:55] is a part for you, basically, correct.

[1:13:57] And now, because we have been deemed bullies

[1:14:00] and we've been boycotted by several people,

[1:14:03] now we are totally out of the loop on all of it

[1:14:06] and that has got to go.

[1:14:07] And this is why I think we've been developing that form

[1:14:11] which has signed the form that you created and they signed.

[1:14:14] Oh, really, really good.

[1:14:15] Is I think, look, we need to publicly know

[1:14:20] like we need to understand who's doing what

[1:14:24] And then moving forward, we put into place the policy and then we then we put out the

[1:14:30] back hall for more people that join the Liberty Committee.

[1:14:33] I've been shocked how many people have said I tried to join the committee and I never

[1:14:39] got a response.

[1:14:40] So also Rachel wrote in there, we get to terminate how many seats, we get to terminate how

[1:14:43] many positions those boards can have because as of now I think there's only four people in

[1:14:47] Liberty parks.

[1:14:48] And I think you guys need to just think amongst yourselves, it's like, what do you expect from

[1:14:54] getting, like, what help are they providing you that you can't do with your own?

[1:14:58] Well, so some of that trusted me out.

[1:15:00] It's not like on the current committees, it's like, there's things in the Liberty Park that are dangerous, and no one's mentioned it. And I don't even think it has an awesome, but it's like, I was at the US Park, and there's re-barks again, adventures by a children's playground. It's very interesting. So they're not your contractors. They have no duty towards you. So why would they inform you about that kind of stuff? You have no legal relationship with them. But you have a pay relationship with our park managers, which that's where, again, it's concerning to me, the park manager.

[1:15:29] managers, they'll never, never attended here. I've never met them in person.

[1:15:34] You know, it's like $1,000 a month. I had no idea. Yeah. And then Janet is paid for cleaning

[1:15:45] the bathroom for me. She takes the car. I start to take the car. Yeah. So there are. So we have,

[1:15:51] we have two like committee members that are paid to do that kind of work. And then we have,

[1:15:56] obviously the maintenance in the day's long care and then the, for example,

[1:16:03] there's a maintenance that's being managed at the Carouse. So there's quite a bit

[1:16:12] that's getting paid out to folks. So we need a process on how you select individuals

[1:16:18] that are going to get those many gays. I imagine in my opinion, we put all the

[1:16:23] mine to one person because that's not necessarily facing our budget.

[1:16:27] Let me have somebody who's paid enough to care and they take good care of it all as opposed to kind of having just an idea.

[1:16:33] No, it's just an idea. Sorry, I dropped it around because I'm just kind of focused on what you want to talk about.

[1:16:37] So do you buy draft as like a thought piece and you can look through because I would not recommend you approve this.

[1:16:44] It is not way fully studied or better or anything.

[1:16:46] And I don't want not to understand the committees enough to know if this is the right one.

[1:16:50] Yes, it's just a random day.

[1:16:52] So, do you email that drop to us?

[1:16:55] I did, but it's not being ...

[1:16:58] Just barely. It's not ...

[1:17:00] It's totally not ready for vote anyway.

[1:17:02] Yeah. It's going to have time to sit with it.

[1:17:04] But, like, even if I feel like ...

[1:17:05] I got it.

[1:17:06] ...a lot of power that they have had

[1:17:09] and they're probably not going to like that.

[1:17:12] And that was me trying to ...

[1:17:14] This is really very gentle.

[1:17:17] It was me trying to keep a role for them.

[1:17:19] But I don't know, but here in New Zealand, I didn't know that there were like park managers

[1:17:25] like even that like that's great if as long as it's

[1:17:29] Dagnanted and like do you know what we don't have these ways that we have no idea they still should be like answer

[1:17:35] What do you have there? You should have a contract with them if they're a contractor or they're employed if she's some sort of a point of

[1:17:40] really she's good at 10 and 99 at the end of the year. I mean like

[1:17:47] We'll get there. We'll get there

[1:17:51] That's right. It's all people by the end of the year, so I'm sorry. Yeah.

[1:17:54] We're going to pick one last hand committee and this is just to discuss for the next week because it

[1:17:59] probably should be an agenda item. I don't know if anyone has made, we get a whole

[1:18:03] of a liberty committee, but they have a pretty large event in the 4th of July. And if it goes south,

[1:18:10] it's going to be our problem, not their problem. And we don't know how we're paying for that

[1:18:13] or any of the things. I don't understand the concerns. They do it every year. It's fine. But if we're

[1:18:18] require that they fill out all the forms and do the proper so far it was in one form

[1:18:23] Rachel, but together, so they point out that that's an issue. Again, that should be like

[1:18:30] you shouldn't have like a facility rental policy that you've adopted, that then in time

[1:18:35] of year wants to rent.

[1:18:38] That's not a third party that's $20,000. I don't know any of that money

[1:18:44] Right, and to Marshall's point, we probably don't have liability insurance from all the vendors for probably or they're not doing RFPs, you know, per these standards.

[1:18:57] I dad, they have a special, it's for the SCC, especially event text, self text license, which I do a lot of events like this.

[1:19:04] And that's a big known, like, that's a huge known, not to have that license.

[1:19:08] And I don't know what they have or what, you know, it's a huge event.

[1:19:10] So again, I just would love to know what's going on with it, or it's not something that

[1:19:14] the community would do, because there's been people asking about it all along the way.

[1:19:18] Well, and I've seen enough stuff from the community that, like, are committed to do something,

[1:19:24] and then use what they did to buy us in the butt wouldn't be surprising to me.

[1:19:28] Well, I think the other thing is too, is just the exchanging of money at that, right?

[1:19:35] So technically, how do we manage fundraising and everything else as of now the Liberty Committee is handling all about all of that.

[1:19:44] There's a question of like, is that going to district?

[1:19:47] Is that going to a non-profit organization that they've been in?

[1:19:50] I mean, we have again, there is a lying item on the expense report or on our on our budget form, there is an income from Liberty days that we do break even.

[1:20:03] But as far as like the accounting and the actual documentation of all of that, I've never seen anything more than that.

[1:20:10] Did the members of the public who paid those money, did they know who they're paying it to?

[1:20:16] First, you know, like a nonprofit, versus a government?

[1:20:19] Well, I went to the Powering last year, and I then owed Liberty Day.

[1:20:25] That was you, I was told the Venmo, I then owed $50 to Liberty Day.

[1:20:29] I mean, I had my own house and people come and throw birthday parties in your backyard

[1:20:38] and have people come pay money to come attend to the party and you're like, you have nothing

[1:20:43] to do with it.

[1:20:44] Yeah, that's the only way to work out.

[1:20:45] That's how I was feeling about this whole play day.

[1:20:48] Play day thing is I'm like, we don't, I still feel like we've not been answered about that.

[1:20:53] I literally feel like we've been blown off about that.

[1:20:55] They said that they rented a bit. Nobody has given us an explanation of what this is.

[1:20:59] The insurance company, I specifically looked through some of these things with them, and they said,

[1:21:06] if you have bounce houses, balloons, they all need to provide us

[1:21:12] copies of their liability insurance. This is a risk management piece. This is to minimize

[1:21:17] our risk in the event that something like this happens. And this one would be very much in alignment

[1:21:23] more so with the balloon fest and we have had nothing. And that was when I

[1:21:30] end out last meeting was the first I heard that all of us on the

[1:21:34] brass that we are getting. I'm almost positive I remember last year it was

[1:21:39] stated this is how much we made back so it was in that negative like it didn't

[1:21:43] cost us anything but I don't know if this has changed I don't know if Tim.

[1:21:46] 50 days right? No, no, no, no, please, loon. They specifically said that we give

[1:21:52] them a name. We sell them $500. That's what it costs us to operate so that we learn

[1:21:59] that even though it was. But it wasn't only last year, last year we did or for the

[1:22:02] blue and fast. We don't need the money and it was I'm pretty sure we say that we are

[1:22:06] reimbursed for the blue and fast. It sounds like the money is not coming back to us.

[1:22:10] I have to do it.

[1:22:11] Not that.

[1:22:12] Okay.

[1:22:12] But these two issues all fall into the same category, so where do we go from here with

[1:22:19] it?

[1:22:20] That's, I think, those two events are like the big ticking time bombs of like, which is

[1:22:24] why the first one that we've met the e-nails about, like, I went together on one page.

[1:22:29] Right.

[1:22:29] So we have, we just have to build on, which is not what I would recommend is that a long time.

[1:22:33] Not which is what.

[1:22:34] But it was one of those things where it's like, this is happening as soon as it has.

[1:22:37] That is.

[1:22:38] and try to cancel it would probably be harder than anything so it's like at least get something

[1:22:43] signed which is better than nothing. And that should be part of the scheduling is like

[1:22:50] there's all those stuff. Yeah, all they do is click on, this is an event, upload, you're

[1:22:55] in chat, and then it's an upload. So I think sincerely like so much of this would be

[1:23:03] solved with the scheduling because then we know where the money's coming from where it's

[1:23:07] going out of the slings we can make sure that all the right documentation and you guys

[1:23:11] need to adopt all those fees like yeah any fee that is being charged to anyone has to be adopted.

[1:23:17] So what we need from the committees as of now we need to understand what current fee structures

[1:23:21] they're doing and then we need to vote on and we can adopt it. I mean if the fee structures

[1:23:28] make sense we can still adopt it because I actually think for Eden Park if like you put down

[1:23:34] to pause it and then if you're a resident you get all the $25 yeah I'm pretty sure that's what it

[1:23:38] was last time. Yeah it's not it's nothing unreasonable we just have no visibility or no standards

[1:23:43] that. And where's that money getting proven to? You know it's intense. Yeah I cannot yeah I cannot

[1:23:49] speak for liberty but my understanding is that Eden has been going into the picked account

[1:23:54] but it's going into their account first. I don't know that's what we've got to find out.

[1:24:08] We do have an income item on the budget from Eden Park, like Rentals.

[1:24:14] Emily, you should be able to look into the Golden West account, can't you?

[1:24:19] To see what revenue we get?

[1:24:23] I don't know.

[1:24:24] Yeah, can I do that for you?

[1:24:26] Yeah, I'm gonna ask Maul and the log in to get into the bank account about five different

[1:24:33] times in email.

[1:24:34] Tim, do you have access?

[1:24:35] Are you listed on the bank account?

[1:24:37] I seeded that role when I got out of the hot seat, so I don't, but I just, I called them

[1:24:45] up and I spoke to them, and they gave it to me pretty easily, back, why do you sort of

[1:24:54] I can ask the accounting firm now that we have them sort of hired on her until then I didn't know who is mine tonight.

[1:25:00] I'm just talking about two. You can ask who's the cider. I mean I do it for the PTO.

[1:25:04] I can tell like they should be able to provide to you who's the ciders on the account.

[1:25:08] That will at least give you who can access the bank.

[1:25:12] And I also know you it's a closed list in my opinion.

[1:25:16] I've seen this look because I've done nonprofits for a lot of years.

[1:25:18] So you know, people take the reins and hope people need to come off. You probably need new signature birth. Yeah, and Emily

[1:25:24] You should be able to go down there and get that done without any other support. That'd be great. I'll track. I'll go for it.

[1:25:34] That'll give us something and then I'm thinking in the meantime, maybe these that form you created Rachel

[1:25:40] We start thinking or you start thinking for us of all the things we need for July 4th and 4

[1:25:47] or balloon fast just to have the CYA's in place.

[1:25:51] Yeah, that's it.

[1:25:53] So maybe have that balloon fast discussion before we agree

[1:25:56] that we're getting them $7500 for this event

[1:25:59] or we already promised them.

[1:26:00] Well, I think that, so that's in the budget,

[1:26:02] but it's in the budget, we can discuss it.

[1:26:06] I don't, I think we can discuss that.

[1:26:09] Yeah, like we don't have this in our business.

[1:26:10] Okay, just to the budget.

[1:26:12] So it's only to go through a formal process that we've heard.

[1:26:15] Yeah, I just want to make sure that that's,

[1:26:16] Because it's down the class meeting, that was a given, that money is there, and I would

[1:26:24] say, if you were here, that is Chris's interpretation of a budget, and Chris has said it many times,

[1:26:31] if it's in the budget, it's approved, and that is something that we've been trying to

[1:26:35] change, just because it's in the budget doesn't mean that it's automatically decaying.

[1:26:39] What does that mean, like, that of a loom fest, because who are you paying that money to,

[1:26:45] it did you go through procurement to like choose that organization.

[1:26:50] Yeah, so we basically we need to put Chris, we need to put the balloon fest on the agenda

[1:26:55] and up when we go Chris to be here.

[1:26:57] Yeah.

[1:26:58] And that's why I really struggled to in the balloon fest.

[1:27:00] And we started paying for it.

[1:27:01] So I like the balloon fest.

[1:27:03] I do too.

[1:27:03] But it used to be, I mean, outside of the park we came before we got so many of the park

[1:27:08] was damaged.

[1:27:09] It was actually a money maker of course with taxpayers.

[1:27:11] Well, we passed that task here. So personal person that was making the money. I remember, but they paid the part. They didn't pay the part, you're right, but it was a, it was a poor

[1:27:20] process. No, but when I'm saying this, when they were asked to leave because of damage, and I just don't, it would be lucrative. Well, they offered, well, do I need to pay a

[1:27:29] higher rental fee? And they're like, no, we're done. So what I'm saying, more than this being a negative seven grand, maybe it's a

[1:27:37] no we absolutely can't because and I anyways yes I agree with you so there's my other

[1:27:43] project or question because now that we know that the balloon fest is not really run by us in

[1:27:49] any way it is the versus and it is it's what we are because and whoever their people are

[1:27:55] it they're under that but they have not given us any information on it all we do is donate some

[1:28:00] money as I was putting in the land and the land and the liability so that's another thing just like

[1:28:06] with everything else. We need to come back to, we need to be involved in this project

[1:28:11] if it's on our land budget. And I imagine I believe that's the nightmare. I assume there's

[1:28:16] 20 balloons. That's a million of 20 insurance certificates open a lot of. I also just want to

[1:28:22] clarify, like, I don't care if people use the parts for events that they're raising money for

[1:28:26] themselves. For sure, I agree with damaging the land. And they should be able to do that.

[1:28:33] And they haven't. That's true. I think they're really trying to bring that. That's right. They're using for the day. They're paying

[1:28:38] bit of a safe in your land. And my ability policy, which is a very common thing. It's like one day

[1:28:44] fallacy. Yeah. Yeah. The same thing for buying that. The way it works is that if someone got injured,

[1:28:52] they would, that means that they would go after their policy person a second. It's another

[1:28:57] later for us. Yeah, no. So yeah, so it really is like, and if that's the case, then for example,

[1:29:05] if we know this is a fundraiser for OVR and the balloon fest, then we pull our funding, right,

[1:29:12] from paying for it. Well, $7,500 is a lot of money. Yeah. And if we're doing it multiple years, we can,

[1:29:18] I don't know what, what someone wants to put in for something next, they go towards it on

[1:29:23] If it goes for replacing the picnic tables at Liberty Park, it will still turn around.

[1:29:27] And I don't know if it's found there. Like, there's just so many things.

[1:29:31] Also, when it could be profitable, I mean, the swing will have to be.

[1:29:34] So, I want to vote inside for the form that we have temporarily four play days.

[1:29:38] Everybody okay with play days?

[1:29:40] Day 29.

[1:29:41] I would say yes as long as we get all of the requirements for the...

[1:29:48] Which they said they could vote like what we said that would.

[1:29:52] Yes, Rachel gave a form. I said, here's what we're going to do.

[1:29:55] Are they having back to the insurance, which I don't know that was covered?

[1:29:59] The insurance.

[1:30:00] Terms requires that there's found houses that there is that that company has liability, correct? Correct. And they did say in the email that they were providing in an event policy. Correct. I did read that correctly, right? They said they weren't going to get an event policy. When will that be to us? Because that's the other thing we also didn't know like that. We shouldn't do anything. Through trucks. Through trucks should be on their own. And that's dictated by the health. I mean, I've even seen on the floor of the July.

[1:30:29] the health department are walking around the Stockholm Chaps at what would be days,

[1:30:32] holding and they're working on for it to last. So I'd also just want to ensure that

[1:30:36] that if they're coming from August and they have an August Valley business permit,

[1:30:39] so are we going to be taxes as our taxes are going to the moon.

[1:30:42] But again, we won't get that. Yeah, that's your opinion.

[1:30:45] If it's not, if it's us hosting, if that's them, but if it's the community hosting, then we just

[1:30:50] need to have the right policies in place to separate us from that. I just feel like we got very

[1:30:56] ignored about that once we brought it up that we got terribly ignored about it.

[1:31:00] But we're begging for forgiveness. We're not asking for permission.

[1:31:03] There's a lot of work that needs to be done on these sorts of things and I'm

[1:31:07] happy to help with dropping policies stuff but I don't want

[1:31:09] mine you need to bleed into nitrogen and I'm worried that I'm kind of

[1:31:15] getting pushed in that direction. I'm into land management for the documents.

[1:31:20] It's like yeah I can recommend but the more and more like I recommend and I'm

[1:31:24] building a system for you, I'm starting to feel more like having asked to do the manager role, but like basically setting up an organization.

[1:31:31] So I just say, Dan, want to recommend that you probably have someone who is like, if you were to run an organization,

[1:31:40] if you hire a director, but like, even if this was like the Parks and Rec department in a city, you'd have a Parks and Rec director.

[1:31:46] So I'm going to use a professional in person recreation to ideally that has expertise in running an organization like this.

[1:31:56] And I often work with directors or managers or whatever you want to call them.

[1:32:00] And they craft like I want to set a system like this and you draft a policy for this and we're okay, I'll do that.

[1:32:07] and then they bring to you guys talk about it.

[1:32:10] You guys are pretty much like this direction.

[1:32:12] We want to direct you to do it this different way,

[1:32:15] but they go do all the work, you know,

[1:32:17] and these things set up.

[1:32:21] So maybe that's not really the aspect

[1:32:22] for next agenda to discuss.

[1:32:24] We're like, do you want to discuss it later?

[1:32:26] Someone that can truly be more of a,

[1:32:29] because that might be a nice bridge,

[1:32:31] tuning the website set up over soon,

[1:32:34] all the procurements that I'm talking about.

[1:32:35] And that doesn't take away the decision making authority.

[1:32:39] Someone who knows where all the keys are, and, you know.

[1:32:44] And maybe it's been one of those things that was going to be in that study.

[1:32:48] They had a grant for the end job.

[1:32:50] The action was to broaden this scope of effort.

[1:32:53] He was saying he was at a time to sit down and say,

[1:32:56] you were in a familiar way.

[1:32:58] I want to analyze what the fees are at all these places.

[1:33:00] Instead of a uniform fee structure, like, I could do that,

[1:33:03] but that feels like I'm leading into like the energy of gold and like doing all the generic

[1:33:08] books setting an organization up. I'm just going to title the work for the 4th of July

[1:33:17] and those events, those single day events, some paperwork that we just did, beyond what you put

[1:33:22] together. Yeah, you know we did it for the 4th of July other than we want to get the money back

[1:33:28] would be essentially issue an RFP for an organization to host the 4th of July.

[1:33:33] And it could be Liberty Days.

[1:33:35] Yes.

[1:33:35] And that's that.

[1:33:36] I know that's a pencil.

[1:33:37] So that's a pencil.

[1:33:38] That's a pencil.

[1:33:39] Can't Kate's anymore.

[1:33:40] They pay somebody that doesn't even.

[1:33:42] Right.

[1:33:42] Because then it can be one RFP with one contractor who then they do their contracting.

[1:33:47] But they have to abide by what's in the contract and give feedback and provide them to.

[1:33:52] There's a reason.

[1:33:52] I mean, it's because you don't want to see Liberty Days go away.

[1:33:54] No, I'm sorry.

[1:33:55] And you know what I'm saying?

[1:33:56] The scene right?

[1:33:57] And I don't want it.

[1:33:58] I don't also want to feel like we're walking on eggshell so that people don't put it on because I'm going to eat breakfast

[1:34:04] Don't make it. So you know what I mean like I'm great by the way. There's people that are willing to do it. So I do feel like we I mean,

[1:34:14] But I do like the idea that Liberty Daves is the organization. It's not Liberty Park. It's Liberty Daves.

[1:34:21] Yeah, I see. And they're hosting just like OVR is hosting this thing. And if OVR is going

[1:34:27] to host the balloon fest, that's fine, but they need to pay us. We don't pay them. Right.

[1:34:31] And it's not, I mean, when I was growing up, we would go to World's Park and Salt Lake,

[1:34:36] the Red Grant Herzlick, and the Lions Club was who put on the breakfast on the 4th each line.

[1:34:40] That was there. That was the way they did it. On Salt Lake, they were in an event agreement.

[1:34:44] Or should work. And then it was held at World's Park, but it was the same kind of a concept.

[1:34:49] Yeah, and since it's it's bothers me a lot since I'm trying to help I also look at the portrait of I I know right now

[1:34:55] It's a break even but I think that could also be something that's an economic flip to our part story

[1:35:01] Sir people want a sponsor I reached out to the Liberty Committee today. Can I help we help out?

[1:35:06] There's a lot of going to sponsor this like I help it. There's never any was known response. There's no responses

[1:35:12] It was my start and I was doing impression for years of opportunities, yeah, that it was a fundraiser.

[1:35:17] I mean, that's how everyone was led to believe that it was a fundraiser, and that's what was

[1:35:21] putting in the playgrounds, and that's what was putting in. I'm not saying anyone was lying to us.

[1:35:25] I don't know. I put the impression. Yeah, because you don't have to deny it.

[1:35:27] Yeah, I imagine. I imagine I could cover our 17 grand that we've contributed with sponsors beforehand,

[1:35:33] and they could still make the 17 grand and make the day of.

[1:35:35] Okay, that's perfect.

[1:35:37] That's perfect.

[1:35:37] Yeah, there's lots of opportunities for revenue revenues in the field

[1:35:43] branches, but we can give them. I do want to vote on the form because we have to vote on the

[1:35:46] form. So Rachel did the temporary form. Did they submit the insurance documents to you?

[1:35:52] She was right my phone. So I'm gonna say the vote be that you know that those are not

[1:35:56] those are not included with the front. I'll just say so agree to sign the form once we

[1:36:01] receive the insurance packages. So our motion that we sign the form pending their signatures.

[1:36:05] I want to see if we get there.

[1:36:07] We have a signature.

[1:36:08] Sorry.

[1:36:08] I have an interest.

[1:36:09] The document.

[1:36:10] Yes.

[1:36:10] Well, I hired a document.

[1:36:11] I'll second that.

[1:36:13] Okay.

[1:36:14] We're good on that now.

[1:36:15] I don't need a formal vote.

[1:36:16] No, you need a vote.

[1:36:17] Yes.

[1:36:17] I have a favor to say, guys.

[1:36:18] I have a favor to say.

[1:36:20] Okay.

[1:36:21] Intense.

[1:36:23] I'm abstaining.

[1:36:24] I didn't read the document well enough to vote on it.

[1:36:27] Got it.

[1:36:28] I want the document back.

[1:36:30] You know what I mean?

[1:36:31] It's two pages.

[1:36:34] It's the Aug de Valle rec organization put together a playday at Eden Park for May 29th.

[1:36:40] I saw it posted somewhere. People were asking me about it. The park sport, none of the members

[1:36:44] knew anything about it. So they are hosting it pretty large event, apparently. Food trucks,

[1:36:49] maybe bounce houses, all kinds of things that we didn't know about. So I asked to lay to avoid that.

[1:36:54] Right. So, like, do we need, like, shouldn't we've been polluting on this event? And it was, yes,

[1:37:00] So she created a document that's sort of a, back and dirty, wager.

[1:37:06] Yeah, so that way they can proceed a few weeks away.

[1:37:09] It's like, because they, they, they, they signed up for a baseball event.

[1:37:16] If any member said, yeah, 250 bucks, something like that.

[1:37:18] I don't really know much to check was said, yes.

[1:37:20] And we didn't have anything in place.

[1:37:21] Like, what exactly is taking place?

[1:37:23] We don't know.

[1:37:24] That's kind of how it went down.

[1:37:26] So that's what we're trying to figure out.

[1:37:27] So once I get the insurance documentation,

[1:37:28] We will sign the form. Everything could put it back.

[1:37:31] So let me speak just super briefly on the progress

[1:37:33] success because you could have done on the same agenda.

[1:37:35] So that's a.

[1:37:36] What did you vote the moment?

[1:37:38] I just didn't have council.

[1:37:39] Yeah, I.

[1:37:40] Yeah.

[1:37:41] The progress assessment is put out by the city auditor.

[1:37:46] And it's been in place for.

[1:37:48] I don't want me to be.

[1:37:49] There's no.

[1:37:49] Exactly.

[1:37:50] But they were.

[1:37:51] They're requiring all government entities to do that evenly.

[1:37:54] So I can help you fill it out and then you should probably have

[1:37:57] or like grass. I think we pick up and we should be in ways. So that's that if you're a

[1:38:03] certain budget which we are, right? I think everybody I think everyone

[1:38:07] goes there meeting, and I thought that was the one thing they're like if you hit a

[1:38:11] certain job. I did, yeah it's super small. Yeah we have to do it and yeah it was so

[1:38:17] honestly we're gonna feel that out and you're gonna move soon and there's a little

[1:38:22] I don't teach that.

[1:38:23] It's really meant to be like a, it's a self-assessing issue, and now you can look at that

[1:38:28] and know, okay, this is where we need to improve, yeah, and it's often being required

[1:38:36] that you've done it, and you've filed it, they want to see proof that you've done it, so.

[1:38:39] You and I will do it, and I think the next part you said the board has to do, I would just

[1:38:43] like run a pi or run a pi, I mean, I said run a pi because you might submit it before

[1:38:48] or it's been technically proven to be the problem.

[1:38:50] But so if it's already been submitted to the state,

[1:38:53] then I would say it's all right.

[1:38:54] If I take you out, it's going to get better.

[1:38:58] But if I were to ask for that as part

[1:39:00] of your insurance application, then it's late.

[1:39:05] That's late, so you and I will coordinate on that.

[1:39:08] Okay, thank you.

[1:39:08] And that's another kind of thing

[1:39:10] that I would expect a finance director

[1:39:11] to be taking care of every year.

[1:39:13] So the architect I drafted includes like that whole gambling phase that I would expect the finance person to do for you.

[1:39:21] Okay, great. And like bringing those sorts of things forward to you in a timing meeting.

[1:39:25] We have an action thing for follow up on finance.

[1:39:30] We're putting that on another agenda so we can start moving on.

[1:39:33] I can't mean an action for that.

[1:39:35] What?

[1:39:35] I don't know.

[1:39:36] I know I know.

[1:39:38] What did that ever say no after this? I think we've heard it next week.

[1:39:41] You know, we have a lot in this. We think we'd be pretty good.

[1:39:44] I know.

[1:39:45] It's not.

[1:39:46] I just can't want to give an update on any of the trails.

[1:39:48] I don't want anything that have been anything since.

[1:39:51] And any progress on trails.

[1:39:53] Alan and I have had a couple conversations.

[1:39:57] He's going back to some of the folks that did the initial.

[1:40:01] I think look at the feasibility of going from snowcrest to Liberty Park, so just chase and

[1:40:10] stuff down. Nothing big and worth taking your time.

[1:40:15] Cool.

[1:40:16] That's great.

[1:40:17] And I can see very briefly.

[1:40:18] Oh, yeah.

[1:40:19] I just can't cross it out, but go ahead.

[1:40:20] Okay.

[1:40:21] I was going to say, like, I think that we've got enough issues that we don't have the bandwidth

[1:40:25] to tackle impact fees right now, but there's something that I'm not going to ask you.

[1:40:32] But basically what that would require is, you would need to hire a, you would not have

[1:40:37] paid a higher consulting firm that would prepare an impact fee analysis for you, I see.

[1:40:41] And they basically analyze your quote-quote needs and include having some sort of master

[1:40:48] plan of what are your future projects needs going to be and how would those be impacted by

[1:40:54] development.

[1:40:55] and I am not the question for those who are like engineers who go to get a little impact fee analysis.

[1:41:00] They come up with like their proposed impact fee number,

[1:41:04] you know, public hearing and even without those.

[1:41:07] And typically you have to work really closely with either the city or the county or whatever.

[1:41:11] Yes, they be getting those assesses.

[1:41:13] It's usually not the assesses of yourself.

[1:41:14] It's usually the planning departments that are assessing impact fees for all the different entities and 40 them.

[1:41:20] And it's wise to have a proposal.

[1:41:22] most relationship with those folks to make sure they understand it's supposed to be collecting

[1:41:26] their impact fees for you.

[1:41:27] Anyway, I don't think we're there yet, but that would be a good thing to do eventually,

[1:41:32] but maybe once I get a finance person involved, they can...

[1:41:35] How do you think I should get gold for $24.6 for this year, that would be possible?

[1:41:39] For an impact fees?

[1:41:40] I think we're a year out, like sincerely.

[1:41:43] I don't know that there's any way we're hardly getting our committee steps down.

[1:41:47] I don't think there's any way we can hire like a...

[1:41:50] Let's get the finest person on board.

[1:41:52] Yeah, and they can do it as soon as we do it.

[1:41:54] Because the other thing that has to happen

[1:41:55] is getting prepared for elections for this sport

[1:41:57] with the disability, not even.

[1:41:59] So that's, we have not started that.

[1:42:00] And we have to have that by the new year,

[1:42:02] because that's why we couldn't do it this year.

[1:42:04] That's literally cooking up.

[1:42:05] Isn't it actually not, you know,

[1:42:07] we needed for at least two more years?

[1:42:09] Because my understanding is they can't do it this year

[1:42:11] because it's going to, like, he wouldn't do it.

[1:42:14] Well, that's it, that's fine.

[1:42:15] Yes, because everyone has to, what is that?

[1:42:17] Sign up or put themselves into the elections.

[1:42:19] questions. Um, this, um, this is what actually happened. Right. Yeah. The deadline. No, my term runs out. So, yes, I think that the count is, I mean, um, we have to be the

[1:42:27] three point year point. You know, I think it was two years. It was two years. Two years. I don't know. Yeah. It's filling. Yeah. It's filling. It will change. Send down. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't realize we're different. Because the way if someone resigns, it's the

[1:42:41] remain here. Your remainder there in this bill, but was I in position?

[1:42:45] I'm going to have to say that just a time reply.

[1:42:47] I'm going to have to say that.

[1:42:49] Sorry.

[1:42:52] Is my understanding this year?

[1:42:56] Correct.

[1:42:56] Oh, and so we're too late this year.

[1:42:58] But he was a new for people that come in in January.

[1:43:02] We wouldn't.

[1:43:03] Would they make us wait until election period in November?

[1:43:07] back as those waters and yeah. I know we have elected people until for two years because

[1:43:14] that next year would be like we can finally get people to declare candidacies it's

[1:43:20] highly part of the year and then the but like you said the election wouldn't be until November

[1:43:25] and those specials actually took force until January 1st. So for the time it would be all

[1:43:37] Yeah, saying because I'm time out for the end of the year, we were counting still.

[1:43:40] Yeah, yes.

[1:43:41] Where does it go?

[1:43:42] So that'll be one more full year.

[1:43:44] It's hope we get our elected board up and running.

[1:43:46] Yeah.

[1:43:47] So there's going to be a lot to do.

[1:43:48] Oh, I don't know yet.

[1:43:51] I don't know about impact yet.

[1:43:53] That'd be cool.

[1:43:53] If we can get it in motion, let's do some of this stuff.

[1:43:57] Or if that's your side, rather, which I want to separate the district into, like,

[1:44:02] pretty same soul right or you want all the positions to be at large like do you want

[1:44:07] yeah there you figure that out if you guys sitting there a little time so more than I thought

[1:44:10] I guess yeah I thought we were going to have to start right away well we need to have it ready

[1:44:14] by the end of this year because we need to know what okay because when people start to they need

[1:44:18] to be ready to defend candidacy because it's here and we need to know what that means like I said are

[1:44:24] or are we going to district some of the new

[1:44:26] in that large only?

[1:44:29] Anyway, that was a lot of work to do.

[1:44:31] Thank you, Dennis.

[1:44:33] Yeah.

[1:44:33] Can I, of course,

[1:44:34] because we want to work a lot.

[1:44:36] What items are people following up with next time?

[1:44:40] This would first give us.

[1:44:42] Do you have it listed that we can read after?

[1:44:45] No, I can't.

[1:44:46] Last time we really were great about saying this person's

[1:44:48] task this, and I'm doing this,

[1:44:49] and this time I feel like.

[1:44:50] So, am I clarifying?

[1:44:52] I don't need to worry about ensuring

[1:44:53] or is your filling out the application

[1:44:56] with great faith and he also wanted me to know.

[1:45:00] So I'm going to email him. I've been emailing with him. I'm going to email him for showing that you're the point of contact. The guy that name is not who's been emailing me. Oh, and I'm happy to dare. And is the chair is the. I don't really always have directly cute of the. Anyway, he says that there is a portal. He says that there is a portal. I know. Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure we were. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. And I'm wiping myself from that. Okay. I would say.

[1:45:29] to all of you read the committee's policy that I've done.

[1:45:32] Yeah, I've been in it out.

[1:45:33] But that's absolutely not the committee policy

[1:45:36] and then look it over in the board direction next time.

[1:45:38] I'll actually put it in as we'll go down the agenda

[1:45:41] and make a comment on that.

[1:45:42] No, or next.

[1:45:44] That's what I'm saying.

[1:45:45] Let's along the step, we'll get that later.

[1:45:48] Because there's a lot that we said we need to follow.

[1:45:50] Certainly, no reaction items.

[1:45:52] We have some of our insurance applications.

[1:45:54] Your and Jim are sending out the financial RFP,

[1:45:57] Marchions, Tom, or sending out the contract reward, everyone reads the committee policy.

[1:46:02] And then I'm doing the meeting with you with for the website.

[1:46:07] Yeah, for the website.

[1:46:09] What are you guys trying to sign up for the committees or the park managers come to the next meeting?

[1:46:15] Always. I mean, they're always.

[1:46:17] I think we need to make it a point.

[1:46:19] That's why you need to be here.

[1:46:20] I think that's an exit.

[1:46:21] Yeah, that put in the policy is like, are they expected to come report frequently?

[1:46:25] Frequently, but that's something that I think will have been pretty great.

[1:46:28] I don't know.

[1:46:28] Hopefully, you're ready at the next meetings.

[1:46:30] I think the next meeting will be kind of finalizing what it is.

[1:46:33] Yeah.

[1:46:34] And I think the following, I mean, we can present an actual ratified document.

[1:46:38] That's right, terminology.

[1:46:39] Approved for policy.

[1:46:40] And then sorry.

[1:46:42] That's got to be action, though.

[1:46:43] Work.

[1:46:44] You and I will read your good part.

[1:46:49] Yeah.

[1:46:50] It's good.

[1:46:51] Yeah.

[1:46:51] to and I requested the key that's already done. I'm starting to hear back what key for the

[1:46:55] bathroom and then I wanted to get the at least for now our our booking fees and you know where

[1:47:04] that's what it was and I'm going to go to the west see I'm going to get it. Hi. Hi.

[1:47:10] Hi. We want to start an action group that actually said that. You said you'll be not too

[1:47:14] Yeah. Yeah.

[1:47:15] The task for now is basically going to tie it up all day.

[1:47:19] What was that?

[1:47:20] Are we going to start a task force for the fee schedule?

[1:47:24] I was going to ask what they, let's find out what we should.

[1:47:27] I just want to know what they are.

[1:47:28] Yes, they are just what the other thing is to it.

[1:47:31] I'm pretty sure Janet was managing Liberty and Todd that's managing again.

[1:47:36] And we need to understand their role.

[1:47:40] What, where the money is coming from and where it's going.

[1:47:42] and then we need to implement the scheduler.

[1:47:46] Another follow-up with them letting OBR know

[1:47:48] they need the documents before signing.

[1:47:52] Yes.

[1:47:55] We'll give them a deadline.

[1:47:57] So it's going to be warning us.

[1:47:58] Yeah, a chance for you.

[1:47:59] Yeah, if it's the event, it's not the time.

[1:48:01] It's all the time.

[1:48:03] Okay.

[1:48:04] By Friday.

[1:48:05] Friday.

[1:48:05] If I said that you were going to follow up

[1:48:07] with the Liberty Park people,

[1:48:09] I never got the shut off.

[1:48:10] I'm the extra leader.

[1:48:14] It was already that.

[1:48:15] It's already that.

[1:48:16] Are we going to make a meeting today?

[1:48:18] Thank you.

[1:48:19] Thank you.

[1:48:20] Can I propose to end the meeting?

[1:48:22] Yes.

[1:48:22] Sorry.

[1:48:23] I'm going to.

[1:48:26] Hi.

[1:48:27] See you, Tim.

[1:48:29] Yeah.

[1:48:29] Thank you.

Board meeting

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