[0:09] We're talking to Welcome

[0:14] back to the budget workshop.

[0:15] >> Make the same coming up.

[0:16] Made every day. We do not have

[0:20] public comment at this time

[0:21] because as a workshop, but we

[0:22] do anyone that wants to speak.

[0:23] If you raise your hand like a

[0:25] Stephen, whatever we're always

[0:26] allowed speak as long some

[0:28] part to his situation. I would

[0:30] like to make one comment about

[0:34] the situation yesterday. You

[0:35] know, I know the last names

[0:37] most everybody in this room.

[0:38] And a lot of people in

[0:42] Okeechobee. And I don't know

[0:43] that any of us at our

[0:43] ancestors were there to meet

[0:47] the Mayflower. I think we're

[0:47] all somewhat implants.

[0:49] Temperature be so that's just

[0:58] my thought. Thought for today.

[0:58] Commissioner Carter, would you

[0:59] lead us in prayer and

[1:00] commissioner, good vantage

[1:00] flag salute. Please. It's a

[1:05] war.

[1:05] >> Barely. Father GOD, we

[1:08] thank you for this day.

[1:09] Keeping a safe and healthy

[1:10] lord. We just ask that you

[1:11] would. Be with us through

[1:15] this. Weekend. Lord, keep us

[1:16] safe. Also, Lord, be with us

[1:20] as finalize budget, Florida.

[1:23] And I was just thank you again

[1:24] for your many blessings.

[1:32] Father.

[1:34] >> a pledge allegiance to the

[1:36] flag. A United States of

[1:37] America and to Republic for

[1:41] which it stands. One nation

[1:42] under indivisible, with

[1:46] liberty and justice for all.

[1:47] Thank you, gentlemen. Why

[1:50] folks?

[1:56] >> Jessica, What she plans.

[1:57] >> Did we want to start with

[1:58] the presentation or did we

[2:01] want to start with The

[2:06] Constitutional

[2:06] >> We can do the

[2:07] constitutional. So if you'd

[2:11] like to. The share for the

[2:12] major, whoever's going start

[2:24] with that one. Good morning,

[2:28] Boarded.

[2:29] >> You know, a lot's been said

[2:37] upon the dice this My budget

[2:39] statutorily has to be before

[2:42] you JUNE. The first. So a

[2:45] Polish, my crystal ball and

[2:46] sharp as I can get a shiny as

[2:50] I get it. To try to forecast

[2:51] what's going to happen in

[2:53] SEPTEMBER. The following year.

[2:59] We talked about consistency.

[3:00] Well, I feel it's important to

[3:01] pay all our first responders,

[3:05] the same amount. Making it

[3:07] easier for all of us to get

[3:09] through these hard times are

[3:11] any time for that matter. And

[3:15] I always say my door is open.

[3:16] If you don't understand, you

[3:19] don't know something. Laying

[3:21] on my 40 years of

[3:25] institutional knowledge. My 26

[3:26] years of being an

[3:26] administrator working on this.

[3:29] But my 10 years being your

[3:33] share. I feel like I've been

[3:35] disrespected. And it bothers

[3:43] me. What I hear. Some of you,

[3:47] you 5. Have to answer to the

[3:48] constituents. So does every

[3:52] other constitution. We have a

[3:55] a valuation every 4 years. If

[3:58] they're not happy. Which it

[4:05] should be. But that said. I

[4:07] still a 3rd of what I did. And

[4:11] my people do. For you. Fi. For

[4:14] our constituents. And

[4:17] everybody as Ron stuff. That

[4:20] is your obligation. That it's

[4:23] under your purview. That saves

[4:26] us all money because it's

[4:29] under my purview and the

[4:30] structure that we have with

[4:32] our sheriffs office. Because

[4:33] there's nobody better to do

[4:36] that. The me and my people.

[4:39] But hey, here. That we're not

[4:42] respected. I feel that that's

[4:46] how it was present. The lack

[4:47] of anybody coming to me and

[4:48] talking to made to say, hey,

[4:51] let's do 5%. I can't polish

[4:52] that Crystal Ball player in a

[4:54] to tell me what you you're my

[4:58] I've got to hear from. Moving

[5:04] forward. We can do that. I've

[5:05] heard of listen. I've got

[5:07] upset in the same breath I've

[5:10] taken the fluff. I've taken

[5:14] the reserve. We've been all

[5:15] over the place over my 26

[5:15] years of being minister in

[5:17] this budget. From three-year

[5:21] actual going averages.

[5:21] Shooting from the hip where

[5:24] we're at today. But we all

[5:27] have to communicate and we

[5:30] have not all been doing that.

[5:34] That said. I've taken my

[5:36] budget. My increase from the

[5:38] 6.1% increase down to a 5.

[5:39] Because that's the right thing

[5:44] to do. My folks are here will

[5:44] present that and appreciate

[5:51] your time. Justin, are you

[5:53] don't give a number from the

[6:03] clerk's office.

[6:04] >> Morning commissioners,

[6:05] believe you guys all received

[6:10] an e-mail from the clerk

[6:10] yesterday. Going with this

[6:11] we're not going away to

[6:12] different. Just tell us the

[6:13] numbers I just want to let you

[6:14] know that he regrets that he

[6:18] can't be here we also have for

[6:19] our budget down to the 5%. As

[6:21] you guys have requested.

[6:22] >> And our total number now

[6:29] is. 3 Million. $61,919. That's

[6:30] a decrease of 32,009, 7, 1,

[6:34] from the previous year.

[6:38] >> Thank you so much, Any

[6:39] questions? No, we appreciate

[6:56] working with us. As Jessica.

[6:57] Thank you for not going to

[7:00] side did today.

[7:05] >> Good morning. So. Her

[7:06] presentation today is a

[7:08] wrap-up of all the requested

[7:09] items that were discussed the

[7:12] past couple of So we'll start.

[7:16] We're going to go any fund.

[7:17] Item manner. So we'll start

[7:21] with the administration. There

[7:22] was request to decrease the

[7:26] conference light. I line items

[7:28] so within this fund, 0, 0, one

[7:29] Dash 10, there will be a total

[7:33] savings of $800. We also have

[7:36] a few changes needed in

[7:36] person. Due to the grants

[7:39] manager position being added

[7:42] as well as the organizational

[7:44] structure being effective as

[7:47] of tomorrow. So those are just

[7:49] reallocations. So we will

[7:49] present that at the JULY 23rd

[7:53] meeting has an update on what

[7:54] the person quantity in total

[7:58] will be in the general Fund

[7:59] for administration as well as

[8:01] the different allocations

[8:02] within the additional funds

[8:05] based on position. And feel

[8:05] free to stop me at any time.

[8:13] If there's any questions. The

[8:14] truck purchase for 45,000 and

[8:17] is a 50 50 split. This is a

[8:18] Jeep Patriot replacement and

[8:18] that will be in the cip and

[8:24] the public works. Funds. We

[8:27] have the verified amount for

[8:29] the communication costs for

[8:32] the judicial 19 circuit

[8:33] judicial branch and the 103,

[8:37] fund at a from a decrease from

[8:46] 130,000 to 43,536. There was

[8:47] couple discussions on the boat

[8:50] ramp and the allocation to

[8:53] assist with that. So we will

[8:54] have 50,000 allocated to the

[8:55] Boating Improvement fund as

[8:56] well as 50,000 allocated to

[8:58] the Tourism Special Revenue

[8:59] Fund. And in addition, there

[9:00] was a discussion on removing

[9:03] the flag pole amount of

[9:03] 19,000. So that has been

[9:07] removed. And then we also for

[9:09] the remaining balance, we will

[9:10] have the pavilion and boat

[9:13] ramp restroom still included.

[9:13] So that will bring the

[9:17] breakdown for the Boating

[9:19] improvement fund as follows.

[9:21] With still remaining at the

[9:23] 128,009, 10. So you'll have

[9:26] 19, not excuse me. 59,400 and

[9:29] reserves. And that's to repair

[9:31] any waterway markers when

[9:33] needed. You'll have 50,000

[9:34] allocated to the boat ramp and

[9:35] then 19,500 for the 2

[9:44] restrooms. For fleet services.

[9:45] There is a question on the

[9:47] increase on why it was so

[9:49] high. So from the amended, the

[9:50] actual increase will be the

[9:51] same as the other departments

[9:54] at 7%. The amended amount in

[9:57] the fiscal year, column was

[9:58] incorrect and that will be

[10:01] adjusted during the mid here.

[10:02] So it only show the 7% as

[10:11] other department show.

[10:12] Additional notes and updates.

[10:14] So we have parks and

[10:15] recreation sports complex. So

[10:16] we are purchasing that gator

[10:17] utility cart that was

[10:19] discussed this fiscal year. So

[10:22] their that won't need a

[10:23] replacement forthcoming. And

[10:25] then in senior services were

[10:26] purchasing. There was a

[10:27] discussion on 3 vans. 3

[10:28] transit vans needing

[10:30] replacement fiscal year. 28.

[10:31] So to stagger that we're

[10:33] purchasing one this fiscal

[10:34] year budgeting for one next

[10:37] fiscal year. And then fiscal

[10:38] year. 28, there will be one

[10:41] budget as well. So that

[10:43] provides that stagger versus

[10:43] all 3 needing replacement in

[10:48] 2028. For the airport. There

[10:49] was a comment on the emergency

[10:51] repairs, a corrective

[10:53] maintenance that has been

[10:54] that's just a ver budget. It's

[10:55] routine maintenance. So that

[11:00] has been reflected and changed

[11:01] for economic development. The

[11:03] bright marked contractors 3

[11:04] remaining, including fiscal

[11:05] year 27. So after fiscal year

[11:08] 27, only be 2 years and for

[11:10] the cip find the interest

[11:13] including profit is just an

[11:13] interest to count again.

[11:15] That's just a verbiage there.

[11:19] That will changed as well. And

[11:20] then general discussion, we

[11:23] have that was discussed to

[11:25] maybe do a workshop with them.

[11:26] But all have Justin Nelson

[11:28] chime in here a little bit on

[11:30] what the plan is to get those

[11:37] rates down a little bit. Thank

[11:40] you, Jessica. So

[11:43] >> we have in the work plan We

[11:46] have a proper expense line and

[11:49] cip and moving into next year.

[11:52] We had 2 site locations that

[11:54] are on city area, gay or

[11:57] should say city. Water for

[11:57] irrigation that were already

[12:00] designated to be have wells

[12:03] put in those 2 sites this year

[12:04] this year come this next

[12:05] budget year. Coming up, I

[12:07] should say not this year we're

[12:09] now and those 2 sites. We did

[12:11] not have the library in there

[12:13] yet because the library has

[12:14] normally been a little bit

[12:17] less than the other 2. But we

[12:18] are now looking at library.

[12:20] And if I can find the funding

[12:23] within my budget that we've

[12:24] already presented. We will get

[12:25] the library one done, too. But

[12:29] most of those high rates that

[12:30] we've seen in the one that's

[12:32] the 800 a month is the

[12:34] irrigation line at the

[12:36] library. It's not the fired

[12:39] and no, sir, the fire. The

[12:40] fire is that's flat rate and

[12:41] it does not have any

[12:42] consumption, but it it is

[12:44] still at a flat rate and it's

[12:45] based off the based off meter

[12:46] size and all of that. And I

[12:48] have the full breakdown of the

[12:53] chart of what we pay. Those

[12:55] hire 100 is for fire

[12:56] suppression or is shows 100.

[12:57] Was noted in there is the

[13:00] irrigation. Way with that. So

[13:03] was the fire coast us.

[13:04] >> I would have to go back and

[13:07] pull that Exactly goes and

[13:08] talking to some of the board

[13:10] of directors of their their

[13:12] >> They want work closely with

[13:12] the county and the and

[13:13] hopefully this can change very

[13:17] shortly with the. Change in

[13:18] management. Yes, And that's we

[13:21] have the workshop. I would

[13:22] love to see what we can do

[13:24] reduce some of those utility

[13:27] costs. So we've got we've got

[13:28] some significantly high ones

[13:30] that are base rates. So we've

[13:31] got we've got a handful of

[13:33] them that. Just the base rate

[13:37] is. Around $3,000 a month. I

[13:39] would love to see. Let's work

[13:41] on that. If there's a way.

[13:45] >> So what will continue?

[13:46] >> Getting an evaluation and

[13:47] analysis on the fire

[13:50] suppression matter. But just

[13:51] wanting to clarify that 800

[13:53] wasn't for irrigation and then

[13:54] we'll work with to maybe get a

[13:54] workshop to my wellness

[13:57] update.

[13:58] >> Bring me up to date on the

[14:01] conversation about the Dede

[14:06] from them. Did you say in our?

[14:07] On our day? It's now ready to

[14:09] go back. What are we doing on

[14:10] that? I actually sent that to

[14:12] you. We had a meeting with

[14:13] legal yesterday just to go

[14:15] through myself. Chief hastily

[14:16] and the administrator we met

[14:19] with legal yesterday. The

[14:20] administrator had found a few

[14:22] items that I had missed. And

[14:25] we've made those corrections.

[14:25] We sent that over to MR. Hay

[14:27] for Dan MR. Kennedy this

[14:29] morning, our goal is we're

[14:31] going to bring that and from

[14:32] the board as we have revised

[14:36] it on the 23rd meeting to our

[14:37] board, we're trying to get

[14:38] them to take in front of their

[14:38] board they have a meeting on

[14:41] the 20th. So the request is

[14:42] for them to try to get that in

[14:43] front of their board on that

[14:46] by the 20th. And this is a

[14:46] document, their turn prepared.

[14:50] And now you've yester. We just

[14:51] redlined it. That doesn't mean

[14:55] it's a simple. Simple transfer

[14:55] over the revision. If you

[14:57] don't building some many days,

[14:58] I mean, I can put that in half

[14:59] the paragraph Yester some

[15:02] there's there's a lot of back

[15:03] and forth. The nation

[15:04] documentation that the time

[15:05] game. But we need to simplify

[15:09] and we just went and read them

[15:10] to him. Please don't think I'm

[15:13] coming But I go back to your

[15:14] comment yesterday. One of the

[15:15] one day this week or Internet

[15:16] when we were talking about

[15:20] moving forward with the the

[15:21] fire station. And you said

[15:22] we've got to get this out of

[15:26] the way. Will hopefully this

[15:28] is going to compete in next in

[15:29] 15 days my weekend. So then

[15:30] you can do your job. Yes, our

[15:31] chair and my request an email

[15:32] this morning still have this

[15:33] thing closed by the end of the

[15:34] month to have our clothes that

[15:35] have just closed out by the

[15:38] end of the month. So the goal

[15:39] at the JULY 23rd meeting is

[15:42] that as long what we've sent

[15:43] back, there's no further

[15:46] changes has.

[15:47] >> Is to have the chair sign.

[15:47] Once we received the signed

[15:51] copy from so JULY 23rd as long

[15:52] as we received the signed copy

[15:55] before or after that date and

[15:57] there's no changes we should

[15:57] be able to have your signature

[15:59] and move forward long as it's

[16:00] approved by the remaining

[16:00] board.

[16:03] >> If you give us a copy what

[16:04] you think it won't. And we

[16:05] will make it a point to attend

[16:08] a meeting. Yes, sir. So I'm

[16:08] not sure that the management

[16:10] change it and I'd rather it

[16:14] didn't get delayed. Yes, sir.

[16:14] Definitely can get your copy

[16:16] of that. Thank you so much.

[16:23] Okay. Just ok?

[16:24] >> So the slide here is

[16:26] discussing the mileage

[16:26] scenarios at the JULY 23rd

[16:27] meeting. We do have to set the

[16:29] tentative millage rate as well

[16:32] as a special assessment rate.

[16:33] But this is in regards to the

[16:36] mileage scenarios are based on

[16:37] our taxable value of the

[16:41] 5 Billion. As you see in that

[16:46] first. Table there, it shows

[16:49] our current fiscal year. 25 26

[16:50] at 7.8 to give you perspective

[16:52] as well as what is in the

[16:55] proposed fiscal year. 26 27

[16:55] budget book because we

[16:57] received the updated taxable

[16:58] value after the budget book

[17:01] was prepared. So this gives

[17:03] you an overview and I will be

[17:06] happy to answer any questions

[17:09] for discussion on this item.

[17:11] >> I can see Tell you with the

[17:12] thought that it could have You

[17:13] have a ups. Are you have a

[17:15] copy in front of you as well?

[17:21] I apologize. Just thank you.

[17:23] When we started on Monday

[17:25] before there were these

[17:26] reductions in a couple of

[17:28] additions. You said doing the

[17:34] 7 point. 4 states, 9, 1,

[17:35] What's going to have roughly

[17:35] half a million dollars or so

[17:38] to the good. Have you

[17:40] recalculated that number with

[17:44] the reductions? And additions

[17:46] you have that number now

[17:47] called up.

[17:48] >> We do not at this time

[17:49] because we are still there.

[17:51] Still some values that are

[17:52] being treated up where are

[17:54] still pending the audit to

[17:54] update the cash balance

[17:55] forward. So we did not want to

[17:58] provide you with an inaccurate

[17:58] number because there could be

[18:02] some fluctuations and that as

[18:03] well obtaining the revenues

[18:05] that we're receiving from the

[18:07] state. As far as the small

[18:08] county surtax, those items are

[18:12] usually are provided mid-JULY.

[18:14] So wish there's still some

[18:15] numbers here were just

[18:16] estimating, but there's still

[18:18] some numbers that are needing

[18:19] a true value. But generally

[18:20] everything has gone to the

[18:23] good.

[18:24] >> But with the exception of

[18:26] adding on bond, the gator. Go

[18:28] ahead and buy in the suv this

[18:29] year. Everything else has been

[18:33] a reduction. Based off the

[18:34] numbers we started with on

[18:36] Monday.

[18:38] >> Yes, there has been a few

[18:40] reductions yester. So

[18:42] generally speaking.

[18:42] >> We're we're not worse off

[18:43] of anything. We're better off

[18:44] than we were as of Monday as

[18:50] far as thank

[18:51] >> To do this this point you

[18:54] won't know Stu, just take

[18:57] which religion where we're

[18:58] looking know, just discussion

[19:01] at this point because that

[19:04] mileage will be set at the

[19:06] JULY 23rd Lisa, are needing to

[19:07] know that before that date to

[19:11] update the budget book or

[19:12] >> now, ok, please should we

[19:14] should? I mean, we should. I

[19:15] mean, can always cut and can

[19:16] always until the hearing it

[19:16] can go up or down. What should

[19:19] you do? Can't do that. But I

[19:20] mean, probably be a for our

[19:20] sake. We should have a

[19:24] discussion which we were going

[19:26] Don't you think, commissioner,

[19:27] carry it just doesn't go ahead

[19:28] and give you a tentative

[19:29] number today. Okay. Well, they

[19:32] do it MR. CHAIRMAN.

[19:32] >> I think only problem they

[19:36] have right now is it. I'm

[19:38] still at the 7.4 know that

[19:39] based on the fact of the

[19:42] calculations here. Given what

[19:44] we have today on the budget,

[19:47] that's $503, $50500,000. More

[19:51] than what we need. So given

[19:54] that I think it's going to be

[19:55] less. I mean, we're gonna have

[19:55] more money than what we need

[19:56] here. Still like to 7.4, but

[19:59] issue is I'd like to see the I

[20:00] like to see the final budget.

[20:05] But a number. Ensure that. And

[20:08] MR. Chair. Yes,

[20:09] >> Commissioner Burrows, you

[20:12] mean the 7.0? 4, 6, 9, 1, I'm

[20:16] sorry. You mean the 7.4, 6, 9,

[20:19] not 7.4.

[20:22] >> just give the last the last

[20:22] column make sure because were

[20:24] going like the last call

[20:25] because I don't want to raise

[20:27] taxes, but I wanted to see. I

[20:28] think your numbers. I think

[20:32] you're. If you're number that

[20:34] we walked in here on Monday.

[20:41] He's going to be less. All

[20:42] right. So with that, that's

[20:42] going to be more money than

[20:43] the $503,115. You got city

[20:47] here. And then that just goes

[20:48] back. And then you're sitting

[20:54] at 35.7, 7% in your. Reserves.

[20:55] >> But keep in mind, no matter

[20:58] which one of these numbers you

[20:59] choose, it doesn't raise taxes

[21:00] unless your Mont went up. If

[21:02] you stay with us. 7.8 in my

[21:03] vacating doing that initial

[21:04] assessment. What up your

[21:05] taxes? Don't go up.

[21:09] >> Well, it just means it. We

[21:10] collect more money.

[21:10] Absolutely. But your taxes

[21:11] don't go up on your home

[21:13] unless your assessment went up

[21:13] and we know the assessments

[21:17] went up. What they did, but we

[21:17] have loved ones on there.

[21:21] Also. Well, I'm just saying

[21:22] they up every year in certain

[21:23] areas, I mean, he he worked.

[21:24] He MAY work it work in my

[21:27] neighborhood right now. You

[21:27] know, and also re special

[21:30] assessments went up as well.

[21:30] So even if everything was

[21:33] equal on the top of the lawn,

[21:34] the total tax bill would be

[21:37] higher based on the fact

[21:39] special shows. Lines I got

[21:41] that. But I still think in in

[21:42] the long run we start trying

[21:42] to lower mileage is a

[21:43] different perspective to

[21:44] people in the mine keep keep

[21:48] this in some iPhone se got

[21:49] 7.8. Now you're just click to

[21:51] 2 million more dollars. Almost

[21:51] 2 Million. Almost 2.1 million

[21:52] dollars more than what you

[21:56] need. If that's the case and

[21:57] we even go through go through

[21:59] the with clerk court and the

[22:00] sheriff? Well, I would just

[22:02] give them what they want and

[22:05] we would have that problem.

[22:05] Mean, that's ridiculous.

[22:09] Exercise. We're going to go

[22:12] stay with go. Stay with the

[22:12] millage. It's about what I'm

[22:13] not asking that. Just think

[22:14] there's an article Memphis.

[22:16] Let me finish. If you're going

[22:18] to stay with same mileage. Are

[22:22] investors thought process. And

[22:22] while we in this silly

[22:24] exercise. Commissioner,

[22:25] please, I did not advocate

[22:27] that I just for the record. If

[22:31] you stay at 7.8 on my house

[22:31] other than a special

[22:32] assessments of my assessment

[22:33] in go up and because they're

[22:34] doing it right now, so did my

[22:35] taxes would not go up.

[22:37] >> I'm not advocating being

[22:39] there. I'm just trying to

[22:42] state the facts. If you go to

[22:43] 7 point for most, everybody is

[22:43] going to get a reduction

[22:45] unless there a new new

[22:46] construction or something like

[22:48] If you go in the middle, then

[22:49] most everybody is going get a

[22:55] reduction. Also. You are

[22:56] talking.

[23:02] >> We're doing this.

[23:03] >> We do that law. I know

[23:04] reminds me of Monday morning,

[23:07] little So Let let me to back

[23:09] it up. I agree with you on one

[23:13] side. What you just said. What

[23:15] I'm saying is we went through

[23:16] this. We went through this

[23:19] whole last 3 days in order to

[23:20] get a budget down to something

[23:24] that was reasonable. If the

[23:25] clerk of court and the

[23:32] sheriff. 5%. If I sitting on

[23:37] their shoes. And I sit there

[23:37] and say, us how say

[23:43] hypothetically, we say 7.6.

[23:44] Because 1.1 million dollars

[23:49] more. Than what we need.

[23:51] Sitting in their shoes. Look

[23:55] at Superior. What do we go

[23:58] through the exercise? That's

[24:04] my point. All I'm saying is if

[24:04] you go down to some to what

[24:06] you basically need. Take care

[24:09] of the budget and that that

[24:12] 7.4 right now without these

[24:15] additions. You half a million

[24:21] dollars for. 2 Million. 1.6,

[24:26] not 650. So that's my point. I

[24:26] agree with you and assessed

[24:29] values all that stuff. Think

[24:35] back when. 8 years we could

[24:37] and mileage. Next year we came

[24:38] back in got spanked because we

[24:41] couldn't pay their bills. So

[24:41] we had had to do that. And the

[24:45] people.

[24:46] >> Really get upset when you

[24:47] raise the mileage. And I don't

[24:48] I don't like it either. You

[24:53] know. We don't know what next

[24:54] year's going bring. We have a

[24:54] good idea that is going take a

[24:59] lot away. If you click if you

[24:59] give a buddy reduction, I'm

[25:01] just saying and this self

[25:02] cover. So you give everybody

[25:04] reduction in their Texas and

[25:06] you still have amount. You

[25:07] have amount of reserves and I

[25:08] know you don't pay tax at a

[25:09] reserve, but you can always

[25:10] put it back in the landfill.

[25:12] Trust and therefore, you're

[25:13] not you when you have to take

[25:14] it out of the to pay your

[25:15] bills, you're not taking that

[25:16] reserve. So if that makes you

[25:19] feel better, but if you go

[25:22] down to 7.8 this year. We

[25:27] could be at 9.8 next year.

[25:28] This said that they want to do

[25:30] that because I am not going to

[25:35] be one for cutting service.

[25:36] And I know first responders

[25:37] are the most the once we have

[25:40] to have out there. But to me,

[25:43] senior services. The library.

[25:46] Playgrounds. Or import it to

[25:50] the people. Out there. You

[25:51] know, now it's not the

[25:52] emergency side of it, but so

[25:53] important to their quality of

[25:58] life. Think you go see a big

[26:02] spike next year and people are

[26:02] going to be very unhappy. You

[26:05] can give them a reduction. Is

[26:08] 7.6, but it's going get. Get a

[26:09] reduction and you still have

[26:14] You have some cushion. So if

[26:15] they don't pass this course,

[26:19] there are the people run for

[26:20] governor. The candidates

[26:21] always saying doesn't pass,

[26:21] we're gonna do something next

[26:22] year and how you've been to

[26:24] that. So. But let's just say

[26:27] they didn't do anything. You

[26:28] could do another cut next

[26:30] year. You can do this. You

[26:33] could cut from from 7.8, 7 0.6

[26:34] issue. Maybe next year. It

[26:36] could go to 7.3, 7.4. What is

[26:38] man you could keep given cuts?

[26:39] It backfires on us and we have

[26:49] to go up is not pleasant. Hear

[26:51] both of you. And both of you

[26:56] are making. Equally good

[26:57] points. Believe I can. I can

[26:59] see the different thoughts.

[27:04] >> So I will on to it. Just

[27:04] the fact that if we have to go

[27:06] up in the future. Well,

[27:10] aggravate people, then. Is not

[27:13] as big a concern of mine. And

[27:15] I know that it will be I'll be

[27:18] one of the ones running next.

[27:19] And so likely that would come

[27:23] in a political year. If we

[27:28] can. We keep the last last

[27:29] column as Commissioner

[27:33] Burrows, but sit. Was that

[27:33] median number, which I don't

[27:34] think that we're she's

[27:35] correctly. I don't think it's

[27:38] actually a median.

[27:39] Statistically speaking, but

[27:41] anyhow that that last drive

[27:46] number, the 7.0, 4, 6, 9, 1,

[27:49] For rounding sake, 7.5 still

[27:49] has us with a half a million

[27:51] over and above, which is a

[27:57] reasonable. And would give I

[28:02] believe. Our citizens, their

[28:03] best break that we can afford

[28:07] it. This time. And again, if

[28:08] if we have to go up there

[28:11] after and it gets all of our

[28:11] butts beat, so be it the right

[28:16] thing to do now for this. 26

[28:18] 27 budget is to do what's

[28:20] right by this. 26 27 budget.

[28:21] Just as we asked the sheriff

[28:23] to do. Just as we ask the

[28:32] clerk to do. That's Michael.

[28:34] You would consider 7.5, 7 0.5

[28:35] would be the number of that

[28:36] I'd like to see. That's that's

[28:40] every 10, 7 mill. All. I think

[28:41] I'm just a month for

[28:42] discussion. Give me the

[28:43] difference between that and I

[28:45] would do. 75.

[28:47] >> I mean, I'm not argue the

[28:48] rebels. I would be comfortable

[28:54] with that. Commissioner Karla.

[28:56] Okay. That's a compromise. And

[28:57] I think so proud of this board

[28:57] compromise and work on things

[28:58] like

[29:06] >> Gore.

[29:07] >> Manning meant heart Your

[29:09] evidence.

[29:09] >> the end of the we still

[29:12] love each other.

[29:15] >> Well, you and you know, I

[29:16] appreciate compromise.

[29:17] Sometimes I do numbers appear

[29:20] constantly and those 2 and

[29:24] 3.3. Get me a little bit. And

[29:25] I know the 7, 5, the number. I

[29:27] just don't want to end up.

[29:29] Doing an exercise that it's

[29:32] meaningless. That's all

[29:33] absolutely. Would you like to

[29:34] put that in the form of a

[29:37] motion that we don't need a

[29:38] motion that such as just

[29:39] written recommendation effort

[29:41] to try

[29:44] >> if you have a fire in a

[29:44] court house burned down can

[29:47] come back and just so. Well,

[29:52] me to go grow for well. Is to

[29:53] put as a recommendation at

[29:53] this point is what we're going

[29:55] to shoot for.

[29:56] >> And obviously your numbers

[29:57] might change. We haven't seen

[30:00] the final product yet. But for

[30:01] discussions say that, think

[30:04] that that number, that's

[30:07] Justin Scotia over that median

[30:08] number. And it looks better

[30:09] and it's easier to tell your

[30:11] with Joe come down to in the

[30:13] mileage. Came down from 7, 8,

[30:17] 7, 5, We came down from 7, 8,

[30:22] to 7 0.4, 6, 9, program for

[30:23] 7.4, 6,

[30:25] >> Commissioner, what is what

[30:27] is the date? The budget's

[30:29] going to be finally done?

[30:30] Excuse me, the audit. I'm

[30:34] sorry of the I'm sorry. Just

[30:35] because you made a comment

[30:36] about some of these numbers

[30:37] are like clothing that could

[30:41] be JANUARY.

[30:42] >> The date I'm sorry. Can you

[30:43] repeat the question? It what

[30:43] is the odd it?

[30:45] >> Supposed to be done right

[30:48] now? We are.

[30:50] >> Challenging some findings

[30:52] that they presented to us. So

[30:54] I believe we should see it

[30:56] sometime next week. Once we

[30:59] get through this.

[31:00] >> So we MAY even have that

[31:01] before meeting with 23rd. We

[31:04] hope to have that. Yes, makes

[31:09] a big difference. But all that

[31:09] That reason I'm asking that

[31:14] question. Because if I don't

[31:15] you know, we can do. We can do

[31:15] whatever we want your life

[31:16] with the mileage. But

[31:20] >> we're shooting and the in

[31:21] the dark when the Dodgers not

[31:22] done, we don't. And I don't.

[31:24] I'm talking for me of these

[31:25] guys. There's 4 of us up

[31:33] there. Or between outside of

[31:37] for additional losses up 4

[31:38] additional the be in my point

[31:39] was, is I don't want to sit

[31:39] here and

[31:43] >> And not know my bottom line

[31:44] number, that's that's a bigger

[31:49] issue for me. So 3rd, Justin

[31:50] Justin Nelson ensured me that

[31:50] his account or they're so

[31:55] comfortable with it.

[31:55] >> Could I ask one more quick?

[31:57] This is all this is it is not

[31:58] in the budget bill is

[31:59] necessary. Well, really, it is

[31:59] because I need I need to close

[32:02] out the airport issue. Okay.

[32:03] Talked to department com or

[32:06] just today. That $300,000

[32:07] Grant, it's not closed out

[32:11] yet.

[32:13] >> Yes, all find out for sure.

[32:14] We've we've sent them all the

[32:15] clothes out information. The

[32:16] problem was we had a line item

[32:21] that could not be and So we

[32:22] had to modify the grant

[32:24] agreement to take that out. So

[32:28] it should be she at the end of

[32:29] it. She told yesterday because

[32:30] reason it's come about,

[32:34] >> we're trying to do another

[32:34] grant for the water main to

[32:39] the industrial park off a 70.

[32:41] And so I've got 3 grants in in

[32:41] referring to present time

[32:44] close this one out. There's

[32:46] not there's not a having more.

[32:47] Grants them for Okeechobee

[32:49] County than 3. But I like to

[32:50] get that one closed out

[32:54] because and just commissioner.

[32:56] So you're where where we are

[32:57] applying for one for the

[32:58] construction of that project.

[33:01] Also.

[33:02] >> know there's another one.

[33:03] Okay. Okay. I just want to

[33:04] make sure you understand. We

[33:08] were applying also because the

[33:09] odds of us getting that grant

[33:12] based off of our grant writer

[33:13] with riff is very good press

[33:20] to get the money. I think 24

[33:20] 27 million out there. 27 27

[33:24] yester. We're putting in for

[33:26] 5.6. I think and hopes that we

[33:28] would get phase one, which is

[33:32] about 1.7 9. So a little under

[33:32] one we can pose a swing at

[33:35] that one closed out that would

[33:36] help me on. Another issue, I'm

[33:39] dealing with the Department of

[33:40] Commerce, a key us or without

[33:41] I will get with the grants

[33:42] department. Just make sure

[33:43] what we've got left. But I

[33:44] think it was just we are

[33:48] waiting on them to do the

[33:49] modification that was about it

[33:50] was at Cannes become was she

[33:50] told me is have conned his

[33:51] night, give them any

[33:53] information.

[33:59] >> What else, administrator?

[34:00] >> That is all surges wanted

[34:01] to say. Thank you to our

[34:05] staff. Thank you to you all

[34:05] and for your support and

[34:07] understanding as we move

[34:08] through this budget process,

[34:09] knowing that there's still

[34:10] some values that we we are

[34:11] waiting for confirmation on.

[34:11] So.

[34:15] >> Thank you to everyone.

[34:16] >> So technically, this is the

[34:17] last day we have schedule if

[34:19] it's necessary. We will come

[34:20] back and have another one or

[34:22] we can do it on the day of the

[34:24] county commissioner meeting.

[34:25] So feel free to do what if you

[34:26] need to do for your time.

[34:30] Thank to that. And I just I

[34:31] just want to say thank you to

[34:34] the board to the staff and the

[34:35] constitutional Sometimes it

[34:39] gets head kick tick. But we're

[34:40] all about a be in. And then

[34:42] when when this all of which

[34:43] will still be friends and i

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