[2:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: good

[2:08] morning, everyone. Please find

[2:09] a seat, if you can. We have

[2:11] some presentations to make this

[2:11] morning before we start our

[2:14] board meeting. And so I'm doug

[2:16] chaffee, the chair of the board,

[2:18] and also fourth district

[2:20] supervisor. The first item

[2:23] we're going to bring is "elder

[2:26] abuse awareness" day. It's

[2:28] actually passed, but we look at

[2:29] that every dave the year anyway.

[2:32] I'd like to thank supervisor

[2:32] nguyen for joining me and

[2:34] bringing this item forward. So

[2:36] thank you, supervisor nguyen.

[2:40] Sadly, every year we recognize

[2:42] elder abuse day to bring

[2:44] awareness to the exploitation,

[2:45] neglect and abuse many of our

[2:47] seniors experience and try to

[2:50] offer hope to the victims. In

[2:52] orange county, adults 65 and

[2:55] older account for over 24% of

[2:57] our population, and this

[3:01] population is continuing to grow

[3:05] almost expotentially. So 10% of

[3:08] adults say 65 and older

[3:11] experience some form of abuse

[3:12] within any given year. That's

[3:14] an awful statistic. Elder abuse

[3:18] takes many forms. Can be

[3:19] physical, psychological, sexual,

[3:21] financial exploitation, neglect

[3:24] or sometimes even abandonment.

[3:27] In 2025 alone, the county of

[3:28] orange social services agency

[3:30] adult protective services

[3:32] program received over 22,000

[3:34] reports regarding abuse and

[3:36] neglect. Now, the county of

[3:37] orange, including the social

[3:39] service agency, and we have many

[3:42] agencies involved in this

[3:43] program, our health agency, our

[3:45] office on aging, public

[3:46] gardenia, district attorney, and

[3:48] orange county community partners

[3:49] are committed to helping seniors

[3:51] live longer, healthier, and

[3:55] safer lives.. To receive this

[3:57] resolution, I'd like to invite

[3:58] the following people to come up,

[4:01] please. Gale aroux hoe, the

[4:02] district director of the social

[4:04] service agency, claudia harris,

[4:06] director of the office of aging.

[4:08] The county offers programs that

[4:11] offer support for families,

[4:14] caregivers, address issues of

[4:15] exploitation, neglect, and abuse

[4:17] of elders. We strongly

[4:18] encourage every resident in

[4:21] orange county to report

[4:22] suspected abuse of an elderly

[4:24] person. So thank you to all the

[4:27] communities who have provided

[4:28] support and working lang side

[4:31] our community every day. So if

[4:34] you are a victim of elder abuse

[4:36] or know someone in need of

[4:38] support, please call the adult

[4:40] protective services hotline,

[4:49] which is 800-451-5155. Now

[4:51] before gale speaks, I'd like to

[4:53] invite supervisor nguyen and the

[4:54] rest of the board to give any

[4:55] remarks about the resolution

[4:57] we're about to present. Thank

[5:02] you.

[5:03] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[5:04] MR. CHAIRMAN, and thank you for

[5:06] the opportunity to co-author

[5:10] with you on this important

[5:12] awareness. A time dedicated to

[5:13] protecting some of the most

[5:15] important individuals of our

[5:17] community, our seniors. Every

[5:19] one of us has someone we cherish

[5:22] who is older, a parent, a

[5:25] grandparent, a neighbor, a

[5:26] mentor or a friend. These are

[5:27] the people who help build our

[5:29] communities, raise families,

[5:30] serve our country, started

[5:32] businesses and passed down the

[5:33] values that guide us today.

[5:35] They deserve our gratitude.

[5:37] They deserve our respect, and

[5:40] most important, they deserve to

[5:43] live with dignity and safely.

[5:44] Unfortunately, elder abuse is

[5:45] more common than many people

[5:48] realize. It can take many

[5:49] forms, physical abuse, emotional

[5:51] abuse, neglect, financial

[5:55] exploitation or even isolation.

[5:56] Sometimes the signs are obvious.

[5:59] More importantly they are

[6:00] hidden behind closed doors --

[6:03] more often, they are hidden

[6:04] behind closed doors, unnoticed

[6:06] by the people who care. Many

[6:08] victims are afraid to speak up.

[6:10] Some feel embarrassed. Others

[6:12] worry about losing their

[6:14] independence or burdening their

[6:15] loved ones. That is why

[6:16] awareness matters. We all have

[6:19] a role to play in protecting our

[6:20] older adults. A simple phone

[6:22] call, a visit or checking in on

[6:23] a neighbor can make a big

[6:26] difference. I saw this during

[6:29] the incident in garden grove.

[6:31] There is an area in our

[6:33] community -- the neighborhood

[6:35] was all elderly seniors. And

[6:36] the neighbors came together,

[6:38] knew those seniors who live in

[6:41] those homes by themselves, went

[6:42] to their homes and helped them

[6:44] get out of the area. And so

[6:46] that's what we want to do, is

[6:48] making sure that we know who our

[6:49] neighbors are, making sure that

[6:51] we are able to assist when

[6:54] needed. Paying attention to

[6:55] changes in behavior, unexplained

[6:57] financial problems or even signs

[6:58] of neglect can help identify

[7:00] someone who MAY need assistance.

[7:02] In orange county we are very

[7:03] fortunate to have dedicated

[7:05] professional caregivers,

[7:07] advocates, law enforcement

[7:10] officers, community

[7:11] organizations and work every day

[7:13] to support seniors and

[7:15] investigate reports abuse. I

[7:16] appreciate our district attorney

[7:18] and his office for continuing to

[7:20] making sure that this is a

[7:22] priority for the department.

[7:24] Their work helps ensure that

[7:25] vulnerable adults have someone

[7:27] looking out for them when they

[7:29] need it most. As a community,

[7:31] we must continue to promote

[7:33] education, encourage reporting

[7:35] and provide resources that help

[7:36] seniors remain safe and

[7:38] connected and independent. Let

[7:40] us recommit ourselves to

[7:41] creating a community where older

[7:43] adults are valued, protected and

[7:44] empowered to live their lives

[7:45] free from abuse and

[7:54] exploitation. Thank you.

[7:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley, good

[7:58] morning, everyone. I'm katrina

[8:01] foley representing the fabulous

[8:03] fifth district. This year's

[8:05] elder abuse awareness theme is

[8:06] beyond awareness. It cause us

[8:08] to pay attention to our most

[8:10] vulnerable and then act. Don't

[8:12] just notice, but act. Orange

[8:14] county is home to more than

[8:17] 690,000 seniors representing 17%

[8:18] of the total residents here in

[8:20] orange county, and that number

[8:21] is just growing and growing. We

[8:24] know from our master plan for

[8:25] aging that we are an aging

[8:27] community. So I say to all of

[8:30] the young people in the audience

[8:31] today, please stay here, make

[8:32] orange county your home. We

[8:37] need you. Within the county, 1

[8:39] in 10 older individuals fall

[8:40] victim to elder abuse annually

[8:43] . In 2025 the county of orange

[8:45] social service agency's adult

[8:47] protective services received

[8:50] 5,244 reports for abuse and

[8:52] neglect just in district 5. So

[8:54] that's more than 5,000 older

[8:57] adults who are being mistreated

[9:00] in district 5. Nearly -- in

[9:02] nearly half of these reported

[9:03] cases, the abuser is a family

[9:04] member. I personally had a

[9:06] family member who was being

[9:09] abused by their stepdaughters,

[9:13] and it was so bad that when her

[9:15] husband died, the stepdaughters

[9:18] kicked the elderly woman out her

[9:22] home. Now, really important, if

[9:22] you're an older adult, call the

[9:25] police. All of our police these

[9:27] days wear body cams. So it was

[9:31] because of the body cam that was

[9:33] preserved long past the

[9:36] husband's life that this woman

[9:38] got justice. So, remember of

[9:40] course, people are here to help

[9:43] you. If it's you who's being

[9:44] abused, don't be afraid to call.

[9:46] If you witness someone being

[9:47] abused or neglected, if it's

[9:50] your neighbor, reach out, knock

[9:52] on their door, because they're

[9:55] probably too ashaped to ask for

[9:57] help, but they need it. Also,

[10:01] as a reminder, our adult

[10:03] protective services 24-hour

[10:07] hotline is 1-800-451-5155.

[10:08] Beyond awareness. Be aware and

[10:17] then act. Thank you. Probably

[10:18] too ashamed to ask for

[10:24] >>speaker: good morning. On

[10:25] behalf of the county of orange

[10:27] social services agency's office

[10:29] on aging and fellow and county

[10:31] and communities in the service

[10:32] of elder abuse prevention, thank

[10:34] you for recognizing world elder

[10:35] abuse awareness day and for your

[10:37] continued support ofests to

[10:39] protect older and dependent

[10:41] adults in orange county elder

[10:43] abuse remains a significant

[10:45] concern in our community. Last

[10:46] year adult protective services

[10:48] received more than 22,000

[10:51] reports involving financial

[10:52] exploitation, psychological

[10:54] abuse, caregiver neglect,

[10:57] physical abuse, isolation and

[10:58] self-neglect. These situations

[10:59] threaten the well-being and

[11:03] safety of those who are often

[11:06] least able to advocate for

[11:08] themselves. Our aps social

[11:10] workers respond to these reports

[11:12] every day at social service

[11:14] agency, ensuring the vulnerable

[11:15] adults receive the support and

[11:16] intervention they need. Their

[11:17] work is strengthened by our

[11:19] office on aging which

[11:21] administers the long-term care

[11:23] some budsman and elder abuse

[11:25] prevention program as well as

[11:26] key services such as housing,

[11:29] relocation assistance,

[11:29] transportation, health and

[11:30] in-home care and legal and

[11:31] financial resources. Through

[11:33] these partnerships we are able

[11:35] to meet the diverse needs of our

[11:37] older adults throughout county.

[11:38] Community awareness also plays a

[11:41] critical role. The signs of

[11:42] abuse are not always visible,

[11:45] and sometimes a simple check-in

[11:46] with an older neighbor, friend,

[11:48] or loved one can help reduce

[11:49] isolation and open the door for

[11:51] someone to share their concerns.

[11:53] If you suspect abuse or

[11:55] neglect, contact our 24-hour aps

[12:01] hotline at eye hundred-451-5155.

[12:02] And for those seeking

[12:03] additional support or services,

[12:07] the office on aging's

[12:07] information and assistance call

[12:11] center is available at

[12:12] 714-480-6450. Thank you for

[12:14] your recognition today and for

[12:15] your continued commitment to the

[12:17] well-being and dignity of older

[12:26] adults in orange county.

[13:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: qons

[13:43] again, I'm doug chaffee, chair

[13:43] of the board. Today we

[13:46] recognize JUNE as gun violence

[13:46] awareness month in orange

[13:49] county. Every year we join in

[13:51] communities across the country

[13:53] to spread awareness about gun

[13:53] violence and honor those who

[13:56] lost their lives because of it.

[13:58] Tragically on an average 130

[13:59] people in the united states are

[14:04] killed by guns each days and

[14:06] over 200 more are shot and

[14:09] wounded. So each of these

[14:10] numbers represents a story of

[14:15] profound loss and devastation.

[14:16] Their lives lost, families

[14:18] shattered and communities

[14:20] scarred by gun violence even

[14:23] here in orange county. Somewhat

[14:25] of a response to that, I began a

[14:32] gun buy-back program in 2022.

[14:34] And it's sponsored by seven

[14:35] police departments who joined in

[14:37] staffing the event. The event

[14:40] also included giving out what we

[14:41] call free gun locks. The idea

[14:42] is not to say you scrbt a

[14:44] weapon, but if you don't want

[14:46] one, we have a way of disposing

[14:48] of it, we give you a gift card

[14:50] in return. And if you have

[14:52] other weapons, please keep them

[14:54] safe. For that reason, we gave

[14:56] out three gun locks. So they

[14:57] had a second event in the city

[15:00] of anaheim that supervisor

[15:03] sarmiento joined in, and a third

[15:04] one with the police department

[15:07] in garden grove, now joined by

[15:09] supervisor nguyen. All together

[15:12] we were able to get 1,055

[15:14] firearms, including 76 assault

[15:18] weapons often street. So this

[15:21] type of thing is -- safety is

[15:24] very important. So we also

[15:25] started a free gun lock program.

[15:38] You can go online with my --

[15:40] and you'll see how to get a free

[15:42] gun lock if you're an orange

[15:43] county resident. It's available

[15:45] to all orange county residents.

[15:47] And there's also a tutorial on

[15:52] how to use the gun locks. So

[15:54] different kinds of weapons need

[15:55] different ways of inserting them

[15:58] and using them. So I'd like to

[16:01] invite deputy health officer

[16:04] DR. Shiek to the dais to join

[16:07] us. He has cared for victims of

[16:08] firearm violence for over two

[16:10] decades and currently serves as

[16:13] orange county's interim ems

[16:15] medical director, deputy health

[16:20] officer and practicing trauma

[16:24] and critical care surgeon.

[16:26] Throughout her career, she has

[16:27] cared for patients across the

[16:30] entire continuum from the trauma

[16:33] bay to the operating courtroom

[16:38] and ICUs 'recovery victims.

[16:41] We're guided that the best way

[16:43] to treat traumatic injury is to

[16:44] prevent it from happening in the

[16:47] first place. So her work

[16:48] focuses on life-saving care and

[16:51] also injury prevention, firearm

[16:54] storage and energy prevention.

[16:55] The gun lock component program

[16:56] is transitioning to the orange

[16:58] county health care agency where

[17:01] we integrate it into a broader

[17:02] framework of community health

[17:04] and entry prevention services.

[17:07] Together we can raise awareness

[17:09] of inherent barriers of firearm

[17:10] ownership and promoting

[17:11] responsible gun safety

[17:14] practices. So we encourage

[17:14] every resident of orange county

[17:16] to have a conversation with

[17:17] their loved ones, discuss

[17:20] important topics like gun

[17:21] violence, gun safety and how to

[17:23] identify solutions to prevent

[17:27] gun violence. In JUNE we honor

[17:29] all those impacted by gun

[17:30] violence as well, those whose

[17:36] lives were taken because of it.

[17:39] Part of the month -- because

[17:41] hunters wear orange when they're

[17:42] hunting so they're

[17:42] distinguishable from other

[17:44] things in the forest, orange is

[17:49] the color that we use to honor

[17:52] the gun violence month. So we

[17:54] are wearing orange -- at least,

[17:56] I've got part orange here on my

[17:57] tie. And with that, I'd like to

[17:59] invite our other supervisor to

[18:01] join us.

[18:03] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[18:05] you. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN.

[18:07] Katrina foley, county supervisor

[18:09] representing the fabulous fifth

[18:11] district. I'd like to at this

[18:13] time invite my guests from moms

[18:14] demand action to come and join

[18:18] us here. Gun violence impacts

[18:19] us all. I want to thank the

[18:22] CHAIRMAN For his advocacy and

[18:25] his work to end gun violence

[18:26] here in orange county. Today my

[18:30] team and I wear orange. We wear

[18:32] orange to honor the survivors of

[18:34] gun violence, raise awareness

[18:37] and demand change. No one in

[18:40] orange county should fear going

[18:42] to school, a place of worship or

[18:45] work or attending community

[18:46] events. According to the orange

[18:48] county sheriff's department,

[18:51] there were 135 gun-related

[18:55] deaths in orange county in 2025.

[19:00] 29 of those were in district 5.

[19:02] 93 of the gun-related deaths

[19:06] were self-inflicted wounds. 25

[19:11] in district 5. No dispute

[19:13] should end in a life stolen. No

[19:16] bad day should end with gun

[19:17] violence. At county of orange

[19:20] we continue our work increasing

[19:22] prevention tactics, promoting

[19:26] safe and responsible firearm

[19:29] practices, the gun lock program

[19:30] is a strong program here at the

[19:32] county of orange, and we think

[19:37] it's working. These locks

[19:39] protect children. They keep

[19:41] families safe, and they keep

[19:43] individuals safe. We appreciate

[19:45] groups like moms demand action,

[19:47] who I have been partnering with

[19:52] since 2019. I looked it up. --

[19:54] on advocacy for gun safety

[19:56] legislation while also providing

[19:58] essential resources for gun

[19:59] violence victims and their

[20:01] survivors. I'd like to

[20:04] introduce oliana andersen from

[20:07] moms demand action orange county

[20:08] and -- are you going to say a

[20:21] few words? Thank you.

[20:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: sorry. I

[20:28] forgot to introduce lieutenant

[20:32] haddad from the brea police

[20:33] department. When you get a gun

[20:34] lock package, you also get a

[20:36] little video featuring the

[20:38] lieutenant demonstrating how to

[20:41] insert the gun lock in different

[20:43] kinds of weapons. So he'll be

[20:46] one of our speakers, as well.

[20:47] >>speaker: good morning,

[20:48] everyone. Thank you, supervisor

[20:50] chaffee, to the board of

[20:51] supervisors, for taking a moment

[20:52] to recognize gun violence

[20:53] awareness month. As the

[20:55] speakers before me has said, gun

[20:56] violence is truly a public

[20:58] health issue and one that

[21:00] impacts our community, not just

[21:01] in one moment, but for a

[21:03] lifetime. It is for that reason

[21:05] and as a practicing trauma and

[21:07] critical care surgeon in my own

[21:08] two decades of experience of

[21:11] taking care of gun violence

[21:12] injury patients as well as their

[21:13] families in the communities that

[21:15] support them that it becomes

[21:16] incredibly imperative that we

[21:18] begin to recognize, support all

[21:20] of those individuals, the

[21:22] families as well as the programs

[21:23] that are taking care of those

[21:24] that are injured by gun

[21:26] violence. As supervisor chaffee

[21:28] said, one of the lessons that I

[21:31] have learned as a longstanding

[21:34] trauma critical care surgeon

[21:36] deputy health officer and your

[21:37] ems interim medical director is

[21:39] the best way to treat trauma is

[21:42] to actually prevent it from

[21:43] happening in the first place,

[21:44] with that, I hope we spend the

[21:47] month in awareness, education,

[21:49] and as we move forward

[21:51] prevention as well. Thank you

[21:55] >>speaker: my name is lieutenant

[21:57] haddad with the brea police

[21:58] department. Thank you for

[22:00] allowing me the opportunity to

[22:02] speak today. One of the most

[22:04] frustrating instances of gun

[22:05] injuries are accidental

[22:06] injuries, including children.

[22:08] So if you do have a firearm and

[22:10] don't have a safe to lock it in,

[22:11] especially if you have children

[22:13] or children that visit, please

[22:15] use a gun lock. It's a

[22:15] completely avoidable tragedy.

[22:20] So thank you.

[22:22] >>speaker: hello, my name is

[22:23] elaina andersen, and I'm a

[22:24] founding member of the orange

[22:26] county chapter of moms demand

[22:28] action for gun sense in america

[22:29] and currently serve as colead

[22:32] for the california chapter. The

[22:34] day after the shooting at sandy

[22:39] hook elementary school schools

[22:42] and 20 first-graders and six

[22:43] educators were murdered in

[22:46] DECEMBER of 2012, shannon watts

[22:47] started a football group with

[22:49] the message that all americans

[22:50] can and should do more to reduce

[22:52] gun violence. The online

[22:53] conversation turned into moms

[22:56] demand action, a non-partisan

[22:57] grassroots movement of over 11

[23:00] million supporters of students,

[23:01] moms, dads, families, concerned

[23:02] citizens and survivors working

[23:04] together with our partners in

[23:05] the gun violence prevention

[23:08] movement to end this uniquely

[23:09] american crisis. Our first ever

[23:12] event in orange county was in

[23:13] april 2013. I joined because I

[23:15] was a high school teacher who

[23:16] always had a lesson plan and an

[23:18] escape plan for my students.

[23:20] Additionally, the previous year

[23:22] there had been a mass shooting

[23:25] at salon mayor tawj in my seal

[23:27] beach neighborhood. Luckily my

[23:29] then 1-year-old daughter and I

[23:31] hadn't walked past the salon to

[23:31] the park that day because the

[23:33] shooter was caught along our

[23:35] route about a dozen doors from

[23:38] our house. In the 13 years as a

[23:39] moms demand action volunteer,

[23:41] we've learned so much about ways

[23:42] to prevent gun violence. We

[23:44] started at the secure storage

[23:46] program called be smart because

[23:50] gun secure storage save kids'

[23:51] lives. I'm shy, and it was

[23:52] scary, but with guns being the

[23:53] number one killer of children

[23:56] and teens nationwide, I decided

[23:58] I'd rather have an awkward

[23:59] conversation before my kid went

[24:01] to someone's house and ask

[24:03] whether they had guns in their

[24:04] home rather than a tragic

[24:05] conversation later if somebody

[24:07] found a gun and someone were

[24:09] unintentionally shot and killed

[24:11] or injured. My suggestion to

[24:12] you is this conversation. I'd

[24:13] say, before my daughter comes

[24:14] over to visit, I want you to

[24:16] know that your child is invited

[24:18] to our home, as well. Just to

[24:19] you know, with very a pool, and

[24:22] it's fenced. We have a dog, but

[24:23] she's friendly, and we can put

[24:25] her in another room if you're

[24:27] allergic. We don't have any

[24:29] food allergies and we don't have

[24:31] any firearms. How about you?

[24:33] No one has ever got upset about

[24:35] the question. Most were impress

[24:37] asked started asking too. If

[24:38] they ever said yes we have a

[24:41] gun, I'd ask how it's stored,

[24:43] and if they say anything other

[24:44] than it's locked and unloaded

[24:46] with the ammo locked separately,

[24:48] I invite them to come to our

[24:51] house instead. 1/3 of youth

[24:54] suicides and unintentional

[24:55] deaths to be prevented by

[24:57] securing guns. I'm thankful

[25:00] that the orange county board

[25:01] supervisors help supply free gun

[25:03] locks in the community.

[25:04] Unfortunately, I've met too many

[25:06] people who have been shot and

[25:08] survived or had loved ones taken

[25:10] I go gun violence. Moms demand

[25:12] action offers the every town

[25:14] survivor network welcoming

[25:16] anyone who has personally

[25:16] experienced gun violence,

[25:17] whether you have witnessed an

[25:20] act of gun violence, been

[25:20] threatened or wounded with a gun

[25:22] or had someone you know or cared

[25:26] about wound -- or killed, the

[25:27] survivor network offers

[25:28] resources and also opportunities

[25:30] for survivors to turn their pain

[25:31] into power by sharing their

[25:33] stories. I'm proud of the work

[25:34] that we do with moms demand

[25:36] action. We support community

[25:37] violence intervention and

[25:38] prevention organizations. Those

[25:40] are the real heroes. Working to

[25:42] stop gun violence before it

[25:44] happens and worth the investment

[25:46] of communities and local, state,

[25:49] and federal government. We also

[25:51] have an active students demand

[25:53] group and mayors against gun

[25:54] violence. Together we work with

[25:55] our communities and business

[25:57] leaders to encourage a culture

[25:58] of responsible gun ownership

[25:59] because we know that gun

[26:01] violence is preventable, and

[26:02] we're committed to doing what it

[26:04] takes to keep families safe.

[26:06] Thank you again to the board of

[26:08] orange -- the orange county

[26:09] board of supervisors for

[26:11] recognize gun violence awareness

[26:13] month and to vice-chair

[26:15] supervisor katrina foley and

[26:16] CHAIRMAN Chaffee for inviting us

[26:17] to participate and wear orange.

[26:18] If you're interested in learning

[26:20] more about moms demand action or

[26:22] students demand action text word

[26:27] "ready" or the word "students"

[26:29] to 64433.

[26:33] Thank you.

[27:39] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have

[27:40] one more presentation to naik

[27:43] make. That is the usa 250th

[27:46] anniversary. And this is a

[27:47] presentation to be led by

[27:49] supervisor wagner and nguyen.

[27:52] And so I'll simply say, as we

[27:54] lead up to the 250th

[27:55] anniversary, the signing of the

[27:57] declaration of independence,

[27:59] it's important for a lot of us

[28:01] to recommit ourselves to

[28:02] upholding the founding

[28:03] principles in the nation, which

[28:05] is justice, liberty, and

[28:08] equality for all. With that,

[28:12] either of you guys want to

[28:12] lead?

[28:14] >>don wagner: good morning. I'm

[28:18] don wagner from the thriving

[28:21] third.. And as I'm sure most

[28:22] of you know, next saturday, the

[28:25] 4th, marks a monumental

[28:27] occasion, the 250th

[28:28] anniversary of the founding of

[28:31] the united states. We're joined

[28:33] today by joelle len chapman,

[28:36] come on up, please, director of

[28:38] concordia university irvine's

[28:39] center for civics education and

[28:46] co-chair of usa 250 oc. On that

[28:51] day, JULY 4th, 1776, 250 years

[28:53] ago, the 56 delegates to the

[28:53] second continental congress

[28:55] signed the declaration of

[28:57] independence, proclaiming that

[28:59] the 13 colonies were free and

[29:01] independent states and were no

[29:03] longer a part of the british

[29:05] empire. What many americans MAY

[29:08] not know is that the declaration

[29:11] was signed over a year into the

[29:17] american revolutionary war with

[29:18] the battle of lexington and

[29:20] concord and that legendary shot

[29:21] heard around the world taking

[29:23] place over a year earlier, APRIL

[29:30] of 1775. And it took eight

[29:40] years of bloody conflict.. We

[29:42] had to do it all over again in

[29:44] 1812. It stuck that time. None

[29:47] of the founding fathers who ever

[29:49] have imagined in that iconic

[29:51] moment, 250 years ago, the

[29:52] technological, the military, the

[29:57] medical, the cultural and

[30:01] industrial global power those 13

[30:02] colonies bound together as the

[30:03] united states of america would

[30:05] become. Through their

[30:07] conviction, their tenacity and

[30:09] dedication to establishing a

[30:12] republic based on the rule of

[30:14] law, based on the cornerstone

[30:17] idea that all of us are created

[30:21] free and equal, these men

[30:23] ushered into existence the

[30:26] greatest nation history has

[30:28] seen. And it is important that

[30:33] we do events like this 250th

[30:34] celebration because it is by

[30:36] doing this, it is by going back

[30:40] and remembering the principles

[30:41] upon which this nation was

[30:42] founded, by teaching our

[30:44] children those principles, we

[30:49] can make sure that they long

[30:53] endure. It is by these sorts of

[30:55] recollections, reminding our

[30:56] children why we are special, how

[30:59] we are special, that we develop

[31:02] the future generation of

[31:03] leaders, the future generation

[31:08] of men and women like those

[31:09] colonists 250 years ago who

[31:12] rallied to the flag and fired

[31:13] that shot heard around the world

[31:15] and who will continue to stand

[31:20] for that flag behind us as this

[31:24] nation continues, in lincoln's

[31:26] words, to sew endure. If any of

[31:28] my colleagues have anything to

[31:31] say, know would be the time.

[31:34] Supervisor nguyen.

[31:35] >>janet nguyen: thank you.

[31:36] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, for

[31:38] allowing us to put this on the

[31:40] agenda and I appreciate my

[31:42] colleague supervisor wagner for

[31:43] co-authoring, partnering with me

[31:45] on this. I'm excited to speak

[31:47] about this proclamation for

[31:49] america's 250th birthday. The

[31:53] federal government established a

[31:54] semiquince centennial commission

[31:56] back this 2016. So this has

[31:57] been in the planning stages for

[31:59] a while. In 2024 when I was in

[32:01] the state senate I realized that

[32:04] california had no commission to

[32:05] partner with the feds to create

[32:06] the biggest celebration ever.

[32:09] So I authored the bill. And

[32:13] with that -- those bills, with

[32:15] reable to get detention of the

[32:16] governor who has formed his --

[32:18] we were able to get the

[32:19] attention of the governor who

[32:21] has formed his own commission

[32:22] here in california. Now we're

[32:24] about a week away from america's

[32:25] birthday. For those of who grew

[32:27] up in america and learned about

[32:29] george washington, thomas

[32:30] jefferson, james madison, ben

[32:32] franklin and our other great

[32:34] founding fathers you have a

[32:36] gift. Millions of people around

[32:37] the world would love to be

[32:40] americans. Just look at the

[32:42] social poses of people visiting

[32:44] here from other countries during

[32:47] the world cup. They can't get

[32:48] enough of america. When I came

[32:51] here as a child I was late

[32:53] getting up to speed on our

[32:54] history, but I read and learned

[32:57] all that I could. At one point

[32:59] i knew every U.S. PRESIDENT In

[33:02] order and even did a perfect

[33:04] score on my U.S. History exam.

[33:08] I remember that all these years

[33:10] later because I love this

[33:11] country. It was fascinating to

[33:13] learn about the revolutionary

[33:17] war and the brave patriots who

[33:18] fought to free from british

[33:20] rule. It wasn't obvious they

[33:21] could win. They were

[33:22] out-numbered, didn't have any

[33:25] money, and their army wasn't

[33:26] highly trained. Many of

[33:28] washington's soldiers had wags

[33:30] for shoes and left blood in the

[33:32] snow as they walked. Against

[33:35] all odds, they won. This

[33:36] country is the greatest country

[33:42] in the world. Only this country

[33:47] can an immigrant like myself, a

[33:49] refugee, who fleed communism, is

[33:53] able to come to this country and

[33:56] be able to not only stand here

[33:56] buffer as a county supervisor

[33:58] the second time, but also to

[34:00] walk into the capitol of the

[34:04] state, the largest state of this

[34:06] nation, to be a state senator.

[34:07] Only this country would allow

[34:10] someone like me to have that

[34:13] opportunity. So freedom and

[34:15] democracy is in my blood, but

[34:17] it's because I've been given

[34:18] that opportunity and many, many

[34:20] other immigrants have been given

[34:23] that opportunity. And that's

[34:28] why celebrating the semiquantity

[34:30] centennial, the 250th birthday

[34:33] of america, so exciting, I would

[34:36] like to thank usa 250oc and all

[34:37] of their hard-working volunteers

[34:39] who have been steadily messaging

[34:42] and holding events to celebrate

[34:43] america's birthday. In fact,

[34:48] they would be hosting a free

[34:49] usa 250 concert on JUNE 30th

[34:52] at the richard nixon's library.

[34:54] Concordia university will be

[34:55] celebrating the 99th birthday

[34:57] of roger williams, an american

[34:59] musical legend. City of

[35:02] huntington beach will be hosting

[35:03] the largest 4th of JULY parade

[35:05] west of the mississippi. And so

[35:08] many other cities around -- I

[35:12] know also -- want to give a

[35:14] shout-out here to the mayor from

[35:19] santa ana, mayor valerie mez gu

[35:21] ras here, santa ana itself will

[35:23] also be celebrating. There's so

[35:24] many celebration across our

[35:26] counties and it's so exciting to

[35:27] see all of us coming together to

[35:28] celebrate the biggest birthday

[35:31] of america. I hope you can all

[35:32] dispeanld also join me as I

[35:34] mentioned in huntington beach

[35:36] with all of the parades and the

[35:37] fireworks all across our county.

[35:46] Thank you.

[35:48] >>speaker: well, thank all of

[35:53] you for this honor. Usa 250 oc

[35:54] is about everybody in orange

[35:56] county. Not about a group of

[35:58] people who got together about a

[35:59] year ago -- and in fact, we were

[36:00] before this board, talking about

[36:06] just having created usa 250 oc,

[36:06] and I think we're proud of one

[36:08] thing the most. It's that all

[36:10] five members of the board of

[36:13] supervisors have come on to this

[36:15] project as honorary co-chairs.

[36:16] That's very important to us

[36:18] because they represent all of

[36:21] you. When we started this, some

[36:22] people started saying, what are

[36:25] you planning for JULY 4th? We

[36:27] said nothing because that will

[36:29] take care of itself. It always

[36:31] does, every city, every

[36:32] community, every business, every

[36:34] family a, they always do

[36:35] something great on JULY 4th.

[36:38] So we're not planning something

[36:40] on JULY 4th. Our goal was in

[36:43] the months leading up to

[36:45] JULY 4th and the months after

[36:46] is to encourage people to engage

[36:50] in our history, in our founding

[36:52] principles, in other words civic

[36:53] literacy, and also civility,

[36:55] where we can stop shouting at

[36:57] each other and start talking to

[36:58] each other, and even more

[37:00] important, listening to each

[37:01] other and learning from each

[37:03] other. So that's been our goal

[37:04] from the beginning, and to

[37:07] partner with others. We've

[37:08] partnered with the orange county

[37:10] business council, arts orange

[37:13] county, the association of

[37:14] california cities, orange

[37:17] county. Orange county forum,

[37:18] the pacific symphony, concordia

[37:20] university. We've partnered

[37:22] with so many organizations to do

[37:24] one simple thing, say in the

[37:26] normal covers your business,

[37:28] whatever you usually do, whether

[37:29] it's a concert or a panel

[37:31] discussion or speeches, whatever

[37:32] you do, make at least one of

[37:35] your programs during this year

[37:38] focus on america 250 on this

[37:40] 250th anniversary. And so

[37:42] many things have happened. It's

[37:44] just been glorious to

[37:46] participate in these things with

[37:48] so many different thoughts and

[37:49] ideas, and people coming from

[37:51] different perspectives. One of

[37:53] the things that we did early on

[37:56] was to create a website. And I

[37:57] encourage you to go to it. It's

[38:01] real simple, usa 250/oc.Com.

[38:03] There are dozens and dozens and

[38:07] dozens of resources, a lot of

[38:09] creative, new material. But

[38:11] there is so much online already

[38:12] that people just don't know

[38:14] about. So I refer you to those

[38:16] things so that you can learn

[38:20] more about our history in short

[38:21] order without having to look it

[38:23] up for yourself. Also that

[38:24] website is in five languages,

[38:26] which makes us, again, very

[38:28] proud because we try to

[38:30] represent the great diversity of

[38:32] orange county. I would also

[38:34] like to thank the staff of all

[38:37] five of the supervisor's office.

[38:41] Whenever I call them, need

[38:41] something, want to share

[38:41] something, they're there,

[38:43] they're very helpful, and the

[38:44] supervisors should be very proud

[38:46] of their staff, and you should,

[38:47] as well. Let me just mention a

[38:49] couple of things about history.

[38:53] From the very beginning, usa

[38:56] 250 oc has taken on as our

[38:59] motto, so to speak, very simple

[39:00] statement. America is the

[39:03] perfect idea. The united states

[39:06] of america is a work in

[39:07] progress. Because what the

[39:09] founders gave us in that

[39:11] declaration of independence, the

[39:13] world had never seen before. It

[39:15] wasn't -- it was revolutionary.

[39:17] It was radical. People just

[39:18] could not believe that we were

[39:20] saying everyone is created

[39:22] equal. We have inalienable

[39:24] rights, every one of us, and

[39:26] that government is based on the

[39:28] consent of the governed. That

[39:30] was radical. And so as we look

[39:33] through history, we all think

[39:36] slavely was ended at end of the

[39:39] civil war. No, no, no. Slavery

[39:41] was ended in massachusetts in

[39:43] 1780 right in the middle of the

[39:46] revolutionary war by a female,

[39:47] black slave who read the

[39:49] declaration of independence, she

[39:51] read the brand-new constitution

[39:53] of massachusetts, which said all

[39:56] men are born free and equal, and

[39:57] she said, then how come I'm not?

[40:00] She had the audacity, the

[40:02] bravery to hire an attorney.

[40:04] They took it to court, and the

[40:07] jury of all white men found in

[40:09] her favor, and a year later,

[40:11] there were a couple other

[40:13] cases -- got the massachusetts

[40:14] supreme court, and the supreme

[40:16] court of massachusetts said

[40:19] slavery is incompatible with the

[40:23] constitution of massachusetts;

[40:24] therefore, slavery in

[40:25] massachusetts is no longer

[40:26] valid.

[40:28] How did that woman get the

[40:29] courage to do that? But she

[40:31] did. And there are so many

[40:33] stories like this through

[40:34] american history. That's why

[40:37] when you look at the

[40:39] abolitionist movement, when you

[40:42] look at sufficient from a gist

[40:43] movement, rights for women, when

[40:45] you look at the civil rights

[40:46] movement, in the 1960s, every

[40:48] one of those movements put as

[40:49] their foundation stone the

[40:55] declaration of independence.

[40:56] That's why it's important. And

[40:58] if you haven't read it, read it.

[40:59] It'll take you 10 minutes,

[41:01] probably less than that. And

[41:02] just look at those paragraphs

[41:03] about freedom. And I'd like to

[41:05] close with this, there are so

[41:06] many great statements about the

[41:08] declaration, but my favorite

[41:09] happened to occur 100 years ago

[41:12] on the 150th anniversary of

[41:14] the declaration of independence.

[41:16] We had a PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT

[41:18] Calvin coolidge, he was known as

[41:20] silent cal, but when he spoke,

[41:22] it meant something. And he gave

[41:26] a speech on JULY 4th of 1926,

[41:28] and said something that

[41:30] resonates today. He said 100

[41:32] years ago, people think that the

[41:34] declaration is old-fashioned.

[41:36] We need new ideas, we need

[41:38] something more modern. Well,

[41:41] today we say the same thing.

[41:43] 100 years later, well, we need

[41:44] something more modern that is up

[41:46] to date to meet our current

[41:48] challenges, but what he said

[41:51] after that is still valid today

[41:53] and will be for eternity. And

[41:54] I'd like to read it because I

[41:57] love the way he said it. He

[41:58] said, if all men are created

[42:01] equal, that is final. If they

[42:04] are endowed with inalienable

[42:07] rights, that is final. If

[42:09] governments derive their just

[42:10] powers from the consent of the

[42:13] governed, that is final.

[42:15] There's no advance, no progress

[42:17] can be made beyond these

[42:20] propositions. If anyone wishes

[42:23] to deny their truth, the only

[42:25] direction in which he can

[42:26] proceed historically is not

[42:29] forward, but backward, backward

[42:31] toward the time when there was

[42:34] no equality, no rights of the

[42:36] individual, no rule of the

[42:37] people. Those who wish to

[42:39] proceed in that direction cannot

[42:42] lay claim to progress. They are

[42:44] reactionary. If there is any

[42:46] failure in respect to any of

[42:48] these principles, it is because

[42:50] of the failure on the part of

[42:52] individuals. That's us -- to

[42:55] observe them. So, remember,

[42:57] we're equal. We have

[42:59] inalienable rights, and

[43:00] government, including the

[43:03] government sthiedged me, rest on

[43:05] our consent. So let's learn

[43:07] about this, let's talk to each

[43:09] other. Let's share these

[43:11] thoughts and work together to

[43:14] continue to form what the

[43:16] constitution said, a more

[43:17] perfect union. And I thank the

[43:19] supervisors for commemorating

[43:37] america 250.

[43:42] >>don wagner: if my history is

[43:45] right, the continental congress

[43:47] voted JULY 22nd. John adams

[43:48] even wrote to his wife. That

[43:50] will be the day that we all

[43:52] remember. Jefferson's draft was

[43:55] not ready JULY 2nd, nor is the

[43:55] proclamation we were going to

[44:00] give today. JULY 4th,

[44:02] jefferson was finally ready.

[44:05] That's the day we celebrate, and

[44:07] joelle, I promise a resolution

[44:09] from all of us is coming, but

[44:12] like jefferson, it's in the

[44:24] works.

[45:14] >>don wagner: if only

[45:15] jefferson's staff was that good,

[45:18] we might have celebrated

[45:18] JULY 22nd

[45:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: we need

[45:21] to be good to start our meeting,

[45:22] whether I happen in about 10

[45:23] minutes. Thank you all for

[45:24] being patient and working with

[45:38] us with these presentations.

[59:57] DR. Shaikh to the dais to join

[1:01:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: good

[1:01:14] morning, again. It's my

[1:01:18] pleasure to call our meeting

[1:01:20] today for the board of

[1:01:21] supervisors which technically is

[1:01:26] JUNE 23, 2026 to order. The

[1:01:27] meeting will begin today with

[1:01:29] the invocations offered by

[1:01:30] supervisor nguyen and the pledge

[1:01:33] of allegiance will follow led by

[1:01:35] verse chair foley. If you're

[1:01:45] able to stand, please do so.

[1:01:47] >>janet nguyen: please bow your

[1:01:49] head and join me, dear heavenly

[1:01:50] father, thank you for america

[1:01:53] and thank you for this year's

[1:01:55] semiquinn centennial

[1:01:56] celebration, 250 years ago our

[1:01:59] nation was formed declaring all

[1:02:01] people are created equal with

[1:02:03] certain GOD-given light it in

[1:02:05] cannot be taken away, among them

[1:02:06] life, liberty, and the pursuit

[1:02:08] of happiness. We are also

[1:02:09] reminded that government gets

[1:02:11] its power from the consent of

[1:02:13] the governed. Help us in the

[1:02:15] governance the budget we passed

[1:02:16] today was set forth for the path

[1:02:19] for our county for the year

[1:02:21] ahead, MAY we be wise with what

[1:02:24] we've been given and faithful to

[1:02:26] those it serves. In your name

[1:02:28] we pray. Amen

[1:02:28] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: good

[1:02:31] morning. At this point I'd like

[1:02:35] to invite celoni, who is a

[1:02:37] saddleback college student, who

[1:02:41] is pursuing a degree in biology

[1:02:44] and aspires to be a vocal

[1:02:46] performer and she will lead us

[1:02:48] in the national anthem and a

[1:02:51] pledge that will follow.

[1:03:14] [Singing the national anthem]

[1:04:16] [Applause]

[1:04:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[1:04:20] you. As we celebrate america

[1:04:23] 250 and many of our flag day

[1:04:24] presentations across the county,

[1:04:26] I ask that you all think about

[1:04:28] what does the flag mean to you,

[1:04:32] to me it's a symbol of

[1:04:34] opportunity, justice, equality

[1:04:37] and charity. Please say with

[1:04:45] me, I pledge allegiance...

[1:04:46] To the flag of the united states

[1:04:48] of america, and to the republic

[1:04:50] for which it stands. 81 nation,

[1:04:52] under GOD, indivisible, with

[1:04:55] liberty and justice for all.

[1:04:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:04:58] you, supervisor nguyen and

[1:05:05] vice-chair foley. There are a

[1:05:07] couple of reminders as to the

[1:05:08] conduct of the meeting. If I

[1:05:11] MAY explain some of those at

[1:05:20] this time...

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[1:06:11] proceed to the agenda for this

[1:06:13] morning's meeting. This agenda

[1:06:15] contains a brief description of

[1:06:16] each item to be considered,

[1:06:18] except as otherwise provided by

[1:06:20] law, such as an emergency. No

[1:06:24] action maybe taken in an item

[1:06:26] not appearing on today's agenda.

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[1:06:28] sections. All matters on the

[1:06:30] consent calendar are approved by

[1:06:32] one mowing, a support member, a

[1:06:34] member of the public MAY request

[1:06:35] separate action on a specific

[1:06:36] item. If you wish to address

[1:06:39] the board, please complete a

[1:06:40] speaker request form and give it

[1:06:42] to the clerk next to the podium.

[1:06:45] And to ensure smooth conduct at

[1:06:46] meetings, speaker request forms

[1:06:48] must be received prior to the

[1:06:49] calling of the item such as

[1:06:52] scent calendar, the reading of

[1:06:54] the individual agenda items or

[1:06:56] at the beginning of public

[1:06:58] comments. Speakers MAY address

[1:06:59] the board on up to three

[1:07:01] occasions because a large number

[1:07:03] of speaker requests we will

[1:07:05] limit it to one minute per

[1:07:07] speaker today. When you're

[1:07:08] called to speak, please step up

[1:07:12] to the podium because you state

[1:07:13] your name and city of residence

[1:07:14] for the record. Please note the

[1:07:16] light on the podium. The green

[1:07:18] light means you have 1 minute.

[1:07:20] The light changes to red when

[1:07:22] your time has expired. We ask

[1:07:24] that you observe the time limit

[1:07:25] so that all who wish to speak

[1:07:28] will have an opportunity do so.

[1:07:31] Addressing the board, please

[1:07:31] address the board as a whole

[1:07:36] through the chair. We have some

[1:07:38] adjustments to the calendar.

[1:07:39] I've tried to go through some of

[1:07:40] this very long agenda and group

[1:07:43] some items so we can move

[1:07:44] expeditiously. We do have some

[1:07:47] unusual things happening today.

[1:07:49] Before we take up the consent

[1:07:50] calendar, which will be our

[1:07:54] first item, we received a

[1:07:54] special request for

[1:07:55] accommodation for public

[1:07:58] comments. And county counsel,

[1:08:01] would you explain that, too,

[1:08:01] please?

[1:08:02] >>leon page: thank you,

[1:08:04] MR. CHAIRMAN., so yes, under

[1:08:05] the brown act a legislative body

[1:08:08] such as the board of supervisors

[1:08:10] is required to have in place a

[1:08:11] prompt mechanism for resolving

[1:08:13] request for accommodations under

[1:08:15] the americans with disabilities

[1:08:17] act and a member of the public

[1:08:19] did identify -- I believe it's

[1:08:20] four individuals, who are

[1:08:22] seeking an accommodation today.

[1:08:23] So it's certainly my

[1:08:24] recommendation to the board that

[1:08:26] we resolve that matter quickly

[1:08:26] and allow those members of the

[1:08:29] public to have their 1 minute so

[1:08:30] they're not required to wait in

[1:08:31] the room all day

[1:08:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:08:34] you, counsel. After we hear

[1:08:37] from those speakers, I'll ask

[1:08:39] the clerk to identify any

[1:08:40] changes to the agenda and then

[1:08:41] any requests to the public to

[1:08:44] hear an item on the consent

[1:08:46] calendar separately. MADAM

[1:08:47] Clerk, will you please call

[1:08:48] speakers that requested

[1:08:50] accommodation at this time

[1:08:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: heidi

[1:08:54] zimmerman, michael deal, and be

[1:08:57] kevin williams, first three

[1:09:03] speakers.

[1:09:06] >>speaker: my name is heidi

[1:09:08] zimmerman. I'm PRESIDENT Of

[1:09:09] omus angel foundation.

[1:09:12] Unfortunately, we're currently

[1:09:15] in litigation against the county

[1:09:16] regarding the inhumane condition

[1:09:20] of the shelters. I'm here today

[1:09:23] because I'm begging for some

[1:09:26] answers for my friends who are

[1:09:27] disabled and being exited from

[1:09:30] their housing in the next week.

[1:09:32] I have got michael deal, who has

[1:09:33] a bullet in his head, who's

[1:09:36] prone to seizures and strokes

[1:09:38] being exited in a week. I also

[1:09:40] have kevin williams, who is

[1:09:41] legally blind and just suffered

[1:09:43] a hip fracture. I also have

[1:09:45] michael laster here, too. So

[1:09:48] GOD bless you for giving us

[1:09:49] special accommodations. I'm

[1:09:51] begging you, please give me an

[1:09:54] answer besides calling 211 on

[1:09:55] what we can do with these folks

[1:09:57] who will be exited into the

[1:09:57] streets while everyone is

[1:09:59] celebrating 4th of JULY, I'm

[1:10:00] going to be worried what my

[1:10:02] blind friends are going to be

[1:10:03] doing in the streets

[1:10:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:10:05] you. MAY we have the next

[1:10:08] speaker, please.

[1:10:10] >>speaker: my name is michael

[1:10:12] dale. I would like to request

[1:10:13] at least an hour of time from

[1:10:17] one of y'all board members and

[1:10:20] maybe the attorney. I have an

[1:10:22] idea for a program that could

[1:10:24] actually end homelessness

[1:10:27] entirely. This will require the

[1:10:28] attorney and board members to

[1:10:30] meet with me. Due to my medical

[1:10:32] condition, the lighting from

[1:10:33] the -- the fluoresce enter

[1:10:35] lighting will make me ill, so

[1:10:38] I'm trying to make as quickly as

[1:10:40] possible. This is a topic

[1:10:42] that's been going on for over 10

[1:10:43] years, and it's not getting

[1:10:45] anywhere. So everything that i

[1:10:47] will be talking about in this

[1:10:49] meeting is based off of

[1:10:51] firsthand experience and from my

[1:10:54] own personal research. I

[1:10:56] estimate out of a 16-year run I

[1:11:05] could save this state $341,280.

[1:11:07] If you guys can make the time to

[1:11:08] have this meeting with me, I'm

[1:11:09] going to have to excuse myself

[1:11:13] from the lighting. Please give

[1:11:16] that information to MS. Heidi

[1:11:18] zimmerman. And I've never

[1:11:21] missed a voat boat. I was a

[1:11:22] deep sea diver for 17 years

[1:11:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:11:24] you, sir

[1:11:27] >>speaker: I will be there oh

[1:11:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:11:31] you, sir. MAY we have the next

[1:11:31] speaker please

[1:11:33] >>speaker: yes, sir. Thank you

[1:11:43] for your time.

[1:11:45] >>speaker: hi, good morning.

[1:11:47] Hi, good morning. I'll make

[1:11:50] this very, very brief. I am

[1:11:52] kevin williams. I am legally

[1:11:57] blind and have suffered a hip

[1:11:59] fracture, requiring me to use a

[1:12:02] walker to get around. And I

[1:12:05] thank you so very much for your

[1:12:06] time.

[1:12:08] >>speaker: please help him he's

[1:12:10] being exited on monday with no

[1:12:11] accommodations. The shelters

[1:12:13] are full. There's a six-month

[1:12:14] waiting list. The waiting list

[1:12:15] for the house something full.

[1:12:16] Please help us

[1:12:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:12:18] you.

[1:12:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: last two

[1:12:23] speakers are michael laster and

[1:12:34] john underwood.

[1:12:36] >>speaker: yes. My name is

[1:12:39] michael laster, and I was just

[1:12:41] informed that because I haven't

[1:12:45] rented a place or have bills in

[1:12:48] my name, I have no ties to

[1:12:50] anywhere in orange county. I am

[1:12:52] in a shelter right now because i

[1:12:54] had to go to the hospital after

[1:12:57] living in my car and having an

[1:12:58] infection in my leg. I was able

[1:13:00] to get into a shelter where it

[1:13:04] takes me three hours, morning,

[1:13:06] noon and night, just to get my

[1:13:10] regular meds to be able to

[1:13:12] function. And they tell us we

[1:13:14] should just be grateful for

[1:13:18] having a house to live in. But

[1:13:21] people are suffering and are

[1:13:23] walking away because of how long

[1:13:26] it takes us to get our meds.

[1:13:28] And it just gets worse and worse

[1:13:30] every day, and when we try to

[1:13:33] talk, they just ignore us.

[1:13:35] Thank you.

[1:13:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:13:39] you, sir.

[1:13:43] >>speaker: the illumination

[1:13:45] foundation recoup care fullerton

[1:13:47] is not giving out the meds

[1:13:47] properly

[1:13:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there

[1:13:50] anyone else who needs an

[1:13:50] accommodation

[1:13:51] >>clerk, robin stieler: one

[1:14:01] more. John underwood.

[1:14:02] >>speaker: ladies and gentlemen

[1:14:04] of the board, I'm a journalist

[1:14:07] by trade but I am an advocate --

[1:14:09] have been an advocate for the

[1:14:10] unhoused and forgotten of orange

[1:14:13] county since the riverbed

[1:14:16] roll-ups of 2018. I'm just here

[1:14:18] to attest to the stories and the

[1:14:20] facts that have been brought to

[1:14:21] you today. I can tell you that

[1:14:24] they are just the tip of an

[1:14:29] iceberg of individuals in very

[1:14:31] similar donees these here who

[1:14:34] are being hemorrhaged back to

[1:14:35] the streets from what they

[1:14:37] thought were accommodated

[1:14:39] placements and permanent

[1:14:41] supportive housing. Mostly with

[1:14:43] supportive services they never

[1:14:45] got. And now they're going back

[1:14:47] to the street, often even

[1:14:50] stripped of their housing choice

[1:14:51] vouchers and reduced to the

[1:14:54] street without even an option

[1:14:57] for them to consider in terms of

[1:14:59] placement. This is a travesty

[1:15:02] on top of a catastrophe. I hope

[1:15:04] you all can pay attention to

[1:15:04] this

[1:15:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:15:05] you, sir

[1:15:06] >>speaker: get out from your

[1:15:08] share ands go to the street, and

[1:15:09] you will see what we're talking

[1:15:09] about

[1:15:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:15:13] you, sir. Was that -- does that

[1:15:15] conclude our come daiive needs

[1:15:16] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes

[1:15:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: there's a

[1:15:19] comment from supervisor foley

[1:15:20] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: if we

[1:15:21] had someone from care and

[1:15:23] coordination in the audience, if

[1:15:24] you could reach out to speak

[1:15:26] with MS. Zimmerman and the

[1:15:27] individuals who have housing

[1:15:29] concerns or if there's someone

[1:15:30] from health care agency, if

[1:15:31] somebody could talk with them

[1:15:35] today while they're here, that'd

[1:15:36] be great

[1:15:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM

[1:15:41] Ceo. Before MADAM Clerk --

[1:15:47] mirkz if I MAY?

[1:15:48] >>v. Chair, mitch mashburn: if

[1:15:52] I MAY. I'm already in contact

[1:15:53] with doug becht as it relates to

[1:15:55] our speakers here. He's also

[1:15:56] aware. He heard the comments

[1:15:58] and will be reaching out. So

[1:16:07] thank you.. There are two more

[1:16:10] items before we come back to

[1:16:11] MADAM Clerk with the changes to

[1:16:12] the agenda. Supervisor wagner

[1:16:13] >>don wagner: thank you,

[1:16:14] MR. CHAIRMAN. I do want to take

[1:16:25] a moment to recognize some of

[1:16:26] the hard-working members from

[1:16:30] our public works department who

[1:16:31] recently received praise from

[1:16:34] the local community in yorba

[1:16:36] lynda for their work

[1:16:37] beautification project in a

[1:16:39] small pocket within the city.

[1:16:40] Members of the community reached

[1:16:42] out to my office for the

[1:16:43] responsiveness, the

[1:16:43] professionalism and care

[1:16:44] dedicated to this project and

[1:16:47] requested that our public works

[1:16:48] professionals be publically

[1:16:49] recognized for their hard work,

[1:16:51] something the ceo and I are

[1:16:52] absolutely happy to do. I'd

[1:16:53] like to acknowledge the

[1:16:54] following public works

[1:16:56] professionals and extend the

[1:16:58] gratitude of the community for

[1:17:00] their hard work on cleaning up

[1:17:01] the area. And if you're here,

[1:17:04] stand up as I call your name.

[1:17:06] From our maintenance inspection

[1:17:09] team, we have eddie perez,

[1:17:13] carlos serrano, alejandro

[1:17:14] villegas, maurice ortise and

[1:17:17] chris ruiz. From the equipment

[1:17:20] operation's team, joe barboa,

[1:17:24] richard taylor, steve rochoa,

[1:17:30] edward molina, jose higareda,

[1:17:34] esteban zamora, omar, pedro

[1:17:36] guerrero, isidore cortez,

[1:17:39] brandon morgan and eric

[1:17:41] bozinski. Gentlemen, thank you

[1:17:43] so much on behalf of the yorba

[1:17:44] lynda community --

[1:17:46] [Applause]

[1:17:50] >>don wagner: all right. Yeah.

[1:17:52] On behalf of the yorba lynda

[1:17:54] community that I am privileged

[1:17:57] to represent, and I take the

[1:17:57] liberty of speaking for the

[1:17:59] entire board, we thank you for

[1:18:00] your professionalism, your

[1:18:01] dedication to preserving the

[1:18:03] quality of life for our

[1:18:05] residents in orange county, and

[1:18:06] I think -- she's back there with

[1:18:08] you. I think the ceo wanted to

[1:18:10] say something. Thank you, all,

[1:18:12] gentlemen. It's greatly,

[1:18:35] greatly appreciated.

[1:18:36] >>michelle aguirre: I was just

[1:18:37] telling the gentlemen that I

[1:18:38] know how hard they work every

[1:18:40] day and for the most part it

[1:18:42] goes unnoticed. And so I just

[1:18:43] greatly appreciate the

[1:18:45] acknowledgment by members of the

[1:18:46] community from our staff because

[1:18:48] we don't get to hear it every

[1:18:50] often but it's all day every day

[1:18:51] that they're doing great work.

[1:18:54] So thank you. Thank you,

[1:18:54] gentlemen

[1:18:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:18:57] you, supervisor wagner, for

[1:18:58] calling our attention to the

[1:18:59] great work that's being done.

[1:19:08] Now we have one more thing and

[1:19:09] vice-chair, I think you're the

[1:19:11] lead conspirator on this. Would

[1:19:12] you lead off

[1:19:13] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[1:19:14] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. At this time

[1:19:16] we would like to take a moment

[1:19:19] to recognize the service of our

[1:19:22] ceo, michelle aguirre, and her

[1:19:24] 37 years with the county of

[1:19:26] orange. And I think each of us

[1:19:27] have some comments, but thank

[1:19:27] you.

[1:19:42] [Applause]

[1:19:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[1:19:44] think it's appropriate that you

[1:19:48] go out on a day where we have

[1:19:52] more than 125 items on our

[1:19:55] agenda. And so as a recognition

[1:19:57] and just a -- you know, a

[1:19:59] thanks, we all got together, we

[1:20:02] got you this lovely vase and 37

[1:20:05] flowers to brighten your day,

[1:20:07] recognizing your 37 years. And

[1:20:11] I'll just take a moment to share

[1:20:13] how I have really enjoyed

[1:20:14] working with you, how I have

[1:20:18] valued your insight, your

[1:20:20] mentorship, your knowledge, your

[1:20:21] institutional knowledge of the

[1:20:23] organization sun matched, and we

[1:20:27] are going to be at a big loss

[1:20:30] without it. And for those of

[1:20:32] who might not know, today is ceo

[1:20:35] aguirre's last board meeting.

[1:20:38] She will be retiring this week.

[1:20:40] And she started her career here,

[1:20:45] which I just love, as a

[1:20:46] assistant, a secretary in an

[1:20:47] office, while going to college.

[1:20:50] And she was going to be a

[1:20:51] psychologist, a clinical

[1:20:52] psychologist. Well, I think

[1:20:53] those clinical psychology

[1:20:56] courses are helping throughout

[1:21:00] the 37 years. And you often

[1:21:03] are, you know, the therapist,

[1:21:05] the advisor for all of your team

[1:21:09] and for all of us, and your

[1:21:14] positive outlook, your "can do"

[1:21:15] spirit helps everyone get to

[1:21:16] where they need to get.

[1:21:17] Sometimes it's harder than

[1:21:19] others. Sometimes we like your

[1:21:21] advice, other times we don't.

[1:21:24] But at end of the day, I know

[1:21:25] that your motivation is always

[1:21:29] about the good of the public and

[1:21:31] good governance. So thank you,

[1:21:34] michelle aguirre, for serving

[1:21:37] orange county and leaving a last

[1:21:39] legacy here at orange county.

[1:21:41] The projects that you have

[1:21:45] contributed to are long term and

[1:21:47] will stand the test of time. So

[1:21:48] we really appreciate your work.

[1:21:50] I know you're looking forward to

[1:21:51] lots of time with the

[1:21:52] grandchildren, traveling,

[1:21:54] spending time with your husband,

[1:21:56] who is already retired. And so

[1:22:00] we wish you all the best. We've

[1:22:02] got a day to get through, but we

[1:22:03] know that your heart is here,

[1:22:05] but your heart will be with your

[1:22:06] home and your family from here

[1:22:08] on out, so thank you so much for

[1:22:09] everything.

[1:22:09] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[1:22:10] supervisor wagner?

[1:22:13] >>don wagner: thank you. I will

[1:22:13] echo a lot of that, and I will

[1:22:16] say, obviously, you know, you've

[1:22:17] been here 37 years. Me not

[1:22:20] quite so long. None of us quite

[1:22:21] so long. So you were here when

[1:22:22] I got here, and it's very true

[1:22:26] that quite quickly I was able to

[1:22:29] realize that in you we had is

[1:22:30] someone who knew the depths of

[1:22:34] this county, knew it inside and

[1:22:36] outside, not just the dollars

[1:22:38] and cents. Though, that was

[1:22:39] your primary responsibility, but

[1:22:40] knew the way this county worked,

[1:22:44] knew the people here, and

[1:22:46] recognized and helped teach me

[1:22:48] that it is not just a talking

[1:22:53] point when we say the county

[1:22:56] family, that really there are

[1:22:59] genuine friendships here,

[1:23:00] opportunities for all of us to

[1:23:03] work together, to make each

[1:23:04] other better. And at top of

[1:23:08] that and leading that has been

[1:23:10] you from my day one, which was

[1:23:14] your day, like, what, 28 or

[1:23:17] so -- years. So that was

[1:23:23] certainly in the back of my mind

[1:23:24] when I and my colleagues tapped

[1:23:26] you to step into the role that

[1:23:27] you've got now. You were

[1:23:29] looking into retirement, I know

[1:23:30] that. And you really took one

[1:23:33] for the team. You came in at an

[1:23:35] uncertain time. You came in

[1:23:37] when searches throughout had not

[1:23:39] turned up the ideal candidate,

[1:23:43] and in part, we recognized, I

[1:23:44] think -- supervisor foley and I

[1:23:46] served on the ad hoc and I think

[1:23:49] we recognized that the perfect

[1:23:53] candidate was you. Don't think

[1:23:55] we can get to you stay any

[1:23:59] longer? No. All right. So you

[1:24:01] stepped in. You've done a great

[1:24:05] job. Those clinical skills

[1:24:06] really help in the management of

[1:24:09] the five of us. I recognize we

[1:24:11] are probably not a very easy

[1:24:14] board. Truth is, I think you

[1:24:19] have maybe tiny feet, but big

[1:24:23] shoes and whoever will come

[1:24:25] along next, I'm not going to ask

[1:24:27] that you walk in your heels but

[1:24:28] I am going to say that you have

[1:24:33] set a path that is admirable as

[1:24:35] one that your successor would be

[1:24:37] well advised to follow and that

[1:24:40] has generated enormous respect

[1:24:43] from me, and I think, from the

[1:24:44] entire community out there.

[1:24:46] Thank you. Not just for 37

[1:24:47] years, but, oh, my gosh, you've

[1:24:49] been a GOD send to this board

[1:24:50] for the last several years, and

[1:24:54] we thank you for it.

[1:24:55] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[1:24:57] supervisor sarmiento?

[1:24:58] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

[1:25:01] chair. So, michelle a lot of

[1:25:03] what I wanted to say has already

[1:25:05] been said. But our time has

[1:25:07] been brief. I know I came on

[1:25:09] when you were still cfo, and,

[1:25:12] you know, we didn't -- we didn't

[1:25:14] know that you'd be serving in

[1:25:17] this role. So as was said, one

[1:25:18] of the things I really want to

[1:25:20] thank you for is your

[1:25:21] willingness to step in at a

[1:25:23] really difficult moment. And

[1:25:25] I'm sure over these 37 years,

[1:25:27] once you're away from us, you're

[1:25:29] going to be reflecting on so

[1:25:31] many incredible milestones that

[1:25:33] you oversaw in this county.

[1:25:34] Being here during the pandemic,

[1:25:37] being here during some really

[1:25:38] difficult times recently when

[1:25:40] we've had some charges against

[1:25:42] the county that you helped us

[1:25:43] cure and do some course

[1:25:45] correction on that. So I want

[1:25:47] to thank you on behalf of all

[1:25:49] the residents here in orange

[1:25:53] county that we knew, had trust

[1:25:54] and faith and confidence in your

[1:25:56] ability to help lead, you know,

[1:25:57] this county and help lead this

[1:26:00] board. You know, we know that,

[1:26:03] as was said, each one of us has

[1:26:05] different styles, has different

[1:26:06] priorities, but I think you were

[1:26:09] able to navigate these really

[1:26:10] well because you just had a

[1:26:13] great, you know, foothold and

[1:26:15] understanding on the numbers.

[1:26:16] But I think beyond your skill

[1:26:19] set with respect to being

[1:26:22] financial officer here at the

[1:26:23] county, I think one of the

[1:26:25] things I admire the most is that

[1:26:26] you've always cared for the

[1:26:29] least among us. And for those

[1:26:30] who have had their lives

[1:26:32] derailed in one way or another,

[1:26:33] whether it's illness, health,

[1:26:35] whether it's a bad decision, I

[1:26:36] think you've dedicated yourself

[1:26:39] to make sure that there is a

[1:26:40] legacy of work that you are

[1:26:42] going to be leading. So for

[1:26:44] that, you know, many of my

[1:26:45] residents unfortunately, you

[1:26:48] know, deal with those issues. I

[1:26:49] want to thank you on their

[1:26:51] behalf because they had a true

[1:26:53] genuine advocate in you, and

[1:26:55] your work is going to stand and

[1:26:59] be a legacy to what it is to be

[1:27:00] somebody who's an executive

[1:27:02] here. And so I just want to

[1:27:05] thank you for that. I also want

[1:27:08] to say, you know, thank you for

[1:27:09] staying longer. I know this be

[1:27:11] wasn't the moment that you

[1:27:12] wanted to leave. You wanted to

[1:27:14] leave last year because your

[1:27:16] husband -- you and your husband

[1:27:18] had plans, and you took a very

[1:27:20] difficult decision and, please,

[1:27:22] thank him on our behalf, you

[1:27:24] know, for the delay for him

[1:27:26] being considerate and giving you

[1:27:28] that grace to be with us as we,

[1:27:30] you know, navigated, you know,

[1:27:32] difficult decisions, as we

[1:27:33] continue to search for somebody

[1:27:35] who's going to, you know, fill

[1:27:37] that seat and continue in

[1:27:39] this -- in leading this evolving

[1:27:40] county. So I know that you've

[1:27:43] seen a lot in 37 years, reflect

[1:27:45] on it once you, you know, take a

[1:27:48] moment. It's been a meaningful

[1:27:50] life, professional life that

[1:27:53] you've led here. This -- orange

[1:27:55] county is a special place. And

[1:27:57] for the county to have entrusted

[1:27:59] so much of it in your hands and

[1:28:02] you took care of it, and I know

[1:28:04] you'll always have a special

[1:28:06] place in your heart for these

[1:28:08] years, this is your life's work.

[1:28:10] So thank you on behalf of

[1:28:11] everybody who MAY not be able to

[1:28:15] say thank you to you in person.

[1:28:17] We want to appreciate you. We

[1:28:20] want to live vicariously through

[1:28:21] you once you leave. Send us

[1:28:23] photographs so we can see what

[1:28:24] it's like to be on the other

[1:28:25] side. But on behalf of all of

[1:28:27] us, we want to thank you for

[1:28:29] showing, you know, patience,

[1:28:31] being firm with us when we know

[1:28:32] we didn't want to hear a certain

[1:28:34] response but that's our

[1:28:35] democracy. It's the tension

[1:28:37] that was built into these

[1:28:39] governments. So we appreciate

[1:28:42] you. Don't go far. Come back

[1:28:42] and visit us.

[1:28:45] You know, now you can employ

[1:28:48] some of the therapy on us as a

[1:28:49] professional. But we appreciate

[1:28:51] you. Thank you, michelle, for

[1:28:53] everything that you've done for

[1:28:56] us.

[1:28:57] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[1:29:00] MR. CHAIRMAN. I'm excited for

[1:29:03] you, and, you know, it's -- this

[1:29:04] recognition is especially

[1:29:08] meaningful for me for you

[1:29:10] because we've known each other a

[1:29:12] decade ago. You started when I

[1:29:16] was first here. We were

[1:29:17] itsy-bitsy little kids trying to

[1:29:18] learn the county. You've been

[1:29:21] there longer than I was. But

[1:29:25] you had so much patience. You

[1:29:27] were so helpful to my staff when

[1:29:28] we first got here, the first

[1:29:30] time in 2007. We appreciate

[1:29:34] you. You were firm pickup

[1:29:35] taught us, you helped us, and

[1:29:40] when I came back and saw that

[1:29:41] you are the interim ceo, I was

[1:29:43] so excited because not only all

[1:29:46] of those quiets, but are you

[1:29:46] intelligent. You've got the

[1:29:48] courage. You had the respect of

[1:29:50] the department and the county

[1:29:52] employees, and those are the

[1:29:54] qualities that don't come

[1:29:56] easily. And so it wasn't a

[1:29:57] surprise to see you go from, you

[1:30:00] know, being in the budget as an

[1:30:03] analyst to, you know, we had a

[1:30:04] different path in that decade.

[1:30:07] You went all the way up to the

[1:30:09] top at county. I went to

[1:30:10] sacramento and came back. And

[1:30:13] since we've been back, thank

[1:30:16] you, because you -- and you your

[1:30:19] staff has been very helpful to

[1:30:20] our office. Has helped us

[1:30:22] navigate not only to my office,

[1:30:23] but also the board, the

[1:30:25] individual offices and to the

[1:30:28] county. We were here when the

[1:30:33] recession hit. We did the

[1:30:34] strategic plan together and we

[1:30:36] knew why we needed that

[1:30:37] strategic plan. It's not the

[1:30:38] same priority it is today, but

[1:30:40] we set it in motion for what we

[1:30:41] were able to do. This building

[1:30:43] was because of those strategic

[1:30:47] plans and those thinking-forward

[1:30:48] ideas, you know, that the budget

[1:30:50] team and the board at the time

[1:30:51] brought together. But that is

[1:30:52] because of the leadership of the

[1:30:53] budget team, and you were part

[1:30:55] of that. And so thank you for

[1:30:58] all that you do. I know this is

[1:30:59] an exciting time for you. Also

[1:31:02] appreciate the fact that you

[1:31:03] stayed behind one more year to

[1:31:08] help us navigate another -- we

[1:31:10] need stop this recession and

[1:31:14] this budget shortfall, you know.

[1:31:16] But everything that you are we

[1:31:18] appreciate, and so on behalf of

[1:31:29] not only the board and

[1:31:32] county...

[1:31:33] The -- for your retirement,

[1:31:35] don't forget us. You say that

[1:31:41] right now, and I see the

[1:31:43] department directors who have

[1:31:44] left. But you will truly enjoy

[1:31:46] it because serving the board is

[1:31:48] very challenging. We're all

[1:31:49] unique and different. We have

[1:31:50] different interests in our

[1:31:52] district. We have different

[1:31:55] personalities. But you've been

[1:31:57] able to make the ship steady,

[1:31:59] and you said no to us pickup

[1:32:00] said gentlemen to us, and you

[1:32:04] said no to us. But it's so much

[1:32:05] appreciated because you've never

[1:32:09] not given us an explanation and

[1:32:11] to do the thinking of looking

[1:32:15] ahead and forward. And so,

[1:32:16] again, thank you from the bottom

[1:32:18] of my heart. Thank you for

[1:32:19] everything that you do for the

[1:32:22] county and for the 3.2 million

[1:32:27] people of this county.

[1:32:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:32:29] you, supervisor. You guys

[1:32:34] didn't leave much for me to say.

[1:32:35] I would note that we've been

[1:32:37] searching for a future ceo for

[1:32:39] quite a while. I think the

[1:32:41] problem we keep running into,

[1:32:44] nobody that we've introduced or

[1:32:46] even looked at is even close to

[1:32:47] the ceo that we have. So you

[1:32:49] are in our minds as to where we

[1:32:52] might go for the future. That's

[1:32:56] great. You know, I admire your

[1:32:58] tenacity, you actually say no to

[1:33:01] supervisor requests. And that's

[1:33:04] the strength not everybody has.

[1:33:06] And I like the way you've

[1:33:08] actually taught us so much about

[1:33:11] the county. And that's helped

[1:33:13] all of us grow and to become

[1:33:14] better stewards of the county

[1:33:17] because of your example. And,

[1:33:20] you know, you maybe going -- I

[1:33:21] tried to convince to you do six

[1:33:22] more months because that's when

[1:33:25] my term ends. But you said no.

[1:33:27] And I think you are ready to go

[1:33:30] somewhere with your suitcase

[1:33:33] packed, I think. But I have to

[1:33:36] remember all you've taught me.

[1:33:37] It's been a lot. There's so

[1:33:40] many things about the county you

[1:33:42] only learn by being here quite a

[1:33:45] while. And our tenures here are

[1:33:47] too short to learn all, that but

[1:33:53] you've helped us learn into what

[1:33:56] we need to be. And if anything,

[1:33:57] I admire, it's the heart have

[1:33:59] you. You have a heart which you

[1:34:01] care, you care about the county,

[1:34:02] you care about the people, and

[1:34:04] you care about us. That's

[1:34:05] pretty cool. So I just wish you

[1:34:07] well. I've got your phone

[1:34:09] number, so if you need help with

[1:34:12] anything and vice-versa, we're

[1:34:14] not the end of the contact we

[1:34:16] might have. And so with that,

[1:34:19] I'd like all of us to join out

[1:34:20] here for a picture and we have a

[1:34:23] plaque to present.

[1:36:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM

[1:36:32] Clerk, would you help us with

[1:36:33] any changes to the calendar? I

[1:36:35] would note I have a somewhat

[1:36:37] different list. I've tried

[1:36:38] consolidate some things and put,

[1:36:41] for example, our budget up

[1:36:42] first, so...

[1:36:44] >>clerk, robin stieler: item 2

[1:36:45] has been deleted and 19 and 20

[1:36:48] have been continued to

[1:36:50] AUGUST 11, 2026 at 9:30 A.M.

[1:36:51] And the public has requested to

[1:36:52] pull from the consent calendar

[1:37:03] item 1.

[1:37:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: now we're

[1:37:08] at our consent calendar.

[1:37:10] >>leon page: I have a few

[1:37:11] housekeeping items before we get

[1:37:14] going. Item no. 78, that

[1:37:15] relates to the selection of a

[1:37:16] contractor for tree care

[1:37:19] maintenance services. With

[1:37:21] respect to that item, supervisor

[1:37:23] wagner received a campaign

[1:37:24] contribution or his campaign

[1:37:26] received a contribution from

[1:37:27] patrick mahoney, who is the

[1:37:29] PRESIDENT Of west coast

[1:37:30] arborist, one of the bidders in

[1:37:33] that procurement. So supervisor

[1:37:34] wagner will be recusing himself

[1:37:37] from item 78. Likewise on item

[1:37:40] 79, supervisor wagner's received

[1:37:42] a campaign contribution from rj

[1:37:44] noble, so he'll be recusing

[1:37:45] himself to item 79 and with

[1:37:48] respect to 94z, in DECEMBER of

[1:37:50] 2025 supervisor foley's campaign

[1:37:51] received a campaign contribution

[1:37:54] from bob olsen of dana point

[1:37:57] harbor partner and I've been

[1:38:00] informed that the supervisor has

[1:38:01] returned that contribution and

[1:38:04] so she MAY participate in the

[1:38:06] discussion on item 94z. Thank

[1:38:06] you

[1:38:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:38:07] you, counsel.

[1:38:08] >>clerk, robin stieler: the

[1:38:11] public has GOD pull item 1 from

[1:38:12] the consent calendar

[1:38:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[1:38:15] Colleagues anything that you'd

[1:38:16] like to pull from the consent

[1:38:18] calendar? Seeing none, there

[1:38:20] are several that I believe were

[1:38:21] continued, so...

[1:38:24] Okay. With the remaining ones

[1:38:26] it's been moved and second. Any

[1:38:27] objection? Seeing none, the

[1:38:29] other items are approved. We

[1:38:31] need to go to item 1, then.

[1:38:34] Call the speaker.

[1:38:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: 1. Under

[1:38:35] chair chaffee-orange county

[1:38:36] behavioral health advisory

[1:38:37] board, appoint virginia arvizu,

[1:38:38] stanton and reappoint stephen

[1:38:39] mcnally, costa mesa and michell

[1:38:40] fernandez, laguna niguel, for

[1:38:43] terms ending 3/9/29.

[1:38:45] And we have one request to

[1:38:53] speak. Deborah donovan.

[1:38:56] >>speaker: thank you. It's

[1:38:59] deborah donothan. I am making

[1:39:00] comment on the health advisory

[1:39:02] board appointments. As these

[1:39:04] appointments are approved, I ask

[1:39:05] the board to ensure this

[1:39:06] advisory body is not just

[1:39:08] reviewing programs on paper but

[1:39:10] asking whether orange county's

[1:39:11] behavioral health system is

[1:39:12] truly supporting people in the

[1:39:14] community. The public needs

[1:39:16] transparency on whether fund

[1:39:17] something going toward

[1:39:19] prevention, voluntary services,

[1:39:21] family support and disability

[1:39:22] rights or whether vulnerable

[1:39:24] residents are being rooted into

[1:39:27] crisis systems such as care

[1:39:29] court, probate mental health

[1:39:31] court, conservatorship and

[1:39:32] restrictive placements.

[1:39:33] Behavioral health oversight

[1:39:36] should include ada and olmsted

[1:39:37] compliance, public outcome

[1:39:39] measures and the voices of

[1:39:41] families and disabled residents

[1:39:42] directly impacted by these

[1:39:44] systems. Thank you.

[1:39:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:39:45] you

[1:39:45] >>clerk, robin stieler: no

[1:39:47] further," MR. Chair

[1:39:48] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[1:39:49] right. This is item 1. I'm

[1:39:51] going to move it. This is

[1:39:53] appointment to people to the

[1:39:55] orange county behavioral health

[1:39:55] advisory board

[1:39:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[1:39:57] second

[1:39:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: any

[1:39:59] objection? Seeing none, the

[1:40:02] item is approved. I want to go

[1:40:07] next totem 94w, which is our

[1:40:10] budget.

[1:40:11] s94w. County executive office-

[1:40:12] adopt fy 2026-27 final budget

[1:40:13] resolution; approve various

[1:40:15] internal service fund billing

[1:40:18] rates; approve fy 2026-27

[1:40:19] employee and employer retirement

[1:40:22] contribution rates; direct human

[1:40:23] resource services to adjust

[1:40:25] position counts to reconcile

[1:40:27] straw vote; establish

[1:40:30] district attorney special

[1:40:31] appropriations and vehicle theft

[1:40:33] task force special funds;

[1:40:35] establish sheriff special

[1:40:35] appropriations fund and regional

[1:40:38] narcotics suppression program;

[1:40:39] adopt resolutions authorizing

[1:40:41] temporary transfers of funds;

[1:40:42] direct auditor-controller to

[1:40:44] make related payments and

[1:40:46] reimbursements; approve fy

[1:40:47] 2026-27 county master events

[1:40:50] calendar and fy 2026-27

[1:40:51] charitable organization

[1:40:53] activities plan and make related

[1:40:55] findings under government

[1:40:57] code section 26227; adopt

[1:40:59] resolution approving sponsorship

[1:40:59] marketing plan and making

[1:41:00] related findings; adopt

[1:41:02] resolution approving united way

[1:41:04] of orange county to conduct fy

[1:41:06] 2026-27 charitable campaign and

[1:41:11] making related findings; receive

[1:41:13] and file fy 2026-27 annual list

[1:41:15] of county ad hoc committees;

[1:41:17] approve revised county

[1:41:18] organizational change

[1:41:19] administrative procedure and

[1:41:21] authorize county executive

[1:41:22] office to make changes under

[1:41:25] certain conditions; approve

[1:41:28] revised classification

[1:41:29] specifications, title

[1:41:31] descriptions and set pay grades,

[1:41:33] effective 6/26/26; approve and

[1:41:35] adopt side letter agreements

[1:41:36] with orange county employees

[1:41:38] association community services

[1:41:40] unit and supervisory management

[1:41:42] unit; adopt revisions to

[1:41:44] personnel & salary resolution,

[1:41:46] effective 6/26/26; adopt

[1:41:48] retirement assistance program

[1:41:50] and policy, a voluntary

[1:41:52] incentive program, and authorize

[1:41:53] county executive officer or

[1:41:54] designee to enter into

[1:41:56] agreement as necessary,

[1:41:57] authorize chief human resource

[1:41:59] officer or designee to

[1:42:01] administer retiree medical

[1:42:02] program and health reimbursement

[1:42:03] arrangement plan, make

[1:42:05] amendments as necessary and

[1:42:06] return to the board of

[1:42:07] supervisors for approval; adopt

[1:42:08] part-time plus program, a

[1:42:10] voluntary program, and authorize

[1:42:11] county executive officer or

[1:42:12] designee to implement and

[1:42:14] administer program

[1:42:17] . And MR. Chair, we have

[1:42:21] received 16 requests to speak on

[1:42:22] s94w.

[1:42:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[1:42:23] right. Please call the

[1:42:24] speakers

[1:42:24] >>clerk, robin stieler: I will

[1:42:26] call three names at a time.

[1:42:27] Please line up in the center of

[1:42:29] the room behind the podium when

[1:42:32] your name is called. Cassandra

[1:42:34] perez. District attorney todd

[1:42:49] spitzer and jennifer roberson.

[1:42:53] >>speaker: hello, is a andra

[1:42:56] perez, district director for

[1:42:59] congressman lou corriea, I'm

[1:43:02] writing in regards to item

[1:43:05] no. S94w budget resolution. The

[1:43:06] item concerns $5 million in

[1:43:07] federal funding I secured

[1:43:10] through the fiscal year 2022

[1:43:11] committee project funding

[1:43:13] process for the county's

[1:43:13] coordinated re-entry center.

[1:43:16] I'd like to restate my

[1:43:19] insistence for my letter earlier

[1:43:20] this month where the county

[1:43:21] works with the city of santa ana

[1:43:23] before proceeding with the

[1:43:25] project. Back in 2021 when the

[1:43:26] project was submitted to my

[1:43:28] office, the county had not

[1:43:29] decided on a project location.

[1:43:30] Clearly given the delicate

[1:43:31] nature of the re-entry project

[1:43:33] it is the duty of the county to

[1:43:35] obtain buy and from impacted

[1:43:37] city and community members.

[1:43:38] This due diligence was not

[1:43:40] conducted prior to the project

[1:43:42] submission to my office but I

[1:43:45] request you to obtain this

[1:43:47] immediately by conducting

[1:43:49] thorough outreach with impacted

[1:43:51] community members before moving

[1:43:53] forward to the community

[1:43:53] consensus

[1:43:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:43:55] you. Ma'am. Time is up. We

[1:44:02] have your letter. Thank you.

[1:44:03] >>speaker: MR. CHAIRMAN, members

[1:44:05] of the board. Good morning.

[1:44:07] Michelle, congratulations on

[1:44:09] behalf of the nearly 1,000

[1:44:10] employees in the district

[1:44:10] attorney's office. We

[1:44:12] appreciate your service. One of

[1:44:14] the things I want to say about a

[1:44:16] 37-year ploy employee and

[1:44:17] somebody who's been serving this

[1:44:18] county for 37 and a half years

[1:44:21] as an elected official is that,

[1:44:22] as michelle knows and I know, we

[1:44:25] give our service, but things

[1:44:26] move on, and there has to be

[1:44:28] other people who take up the

[1:44:31] mantel. So I really am thankful

[1:44:33] for her service, but I also know

[1:44:35] that we have to leave a county

[1:44:37] behind in this budget process,

[1:44:39] and what is most important is

[1:44:42] not MS. Aguirre or todd spitzer.

[1:44:44] It's our employees. And our

[1:44:46] employees rely on a budget

[1:44:47] process that builds credibility

[1:44:49] and moral and that people know

[1:44:50] we're taking care of them. This

[1:44:52] budget process wasn't even

[1:44:54] agendized. It was put on as a

[1:44:55] supplemental, almost as an

[1:44:57] after-thought. The most

[1:44:58] important vote that a board of

[1:45:00] supervisors has is your budget.

[1:45:02] I would ask you to go -- wow

[1:45:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, if

[1:45:05] you can be quick...

[1:45:07] >>speaker: I'd ask to you go

[1:45:09] back to the prior process that

[1:45:10] we used when I was a supervisor

[1:45:13] for 12 years serving with

[1:45:14] supervisor nguyen, allow us to

[1:45:17] have the net county cost budget,

[1:45:19] have the ceo recommendation, let

[1:45:20] us have our augmentation

[1:45:22] requests, and let's have a

[1:45:24] robust discussion in public

[1:45:27] about our budget. You went into

[1:45:28] closed session. You came out.

[1:45:30] There was an opening statement.

[1:45:33] You didn't even go through each

[1:45:33] program --

[1:45:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:45:34] you

[1:45:36] >>speaker: to discuss the

[1:45:37] budget. Please change this

[1:45:37] budget process

[1:45:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:45:38] you.

[1:45:40] >>clerk, robin stieler: the next

[1:45:41] three individuals, please come

[1:45:43] forward, arissa palmer, cindy

[1:45:47] young and charles barfield.

[1:45:49] >>speaker: good morning. First

[1:45:51] I want to thank you all for

[1:45:52] having meetings with breast-feed

[1:45:56] L.A. Our first five oc team and

[1:46:00] the naacp oc, my name is

[1:46:02] jennifer roberson. I won't

[1:46:04] belabor the reasons why orange

[1:46:04] county health care agency

[1:46:05] decided not to accept

[1:46:07] continuation funding. I just

[1:46:09] want to update you that

[1:46:11] breast-feed L.A. Has met with

[1:46:12] orange county health care agency

[1:46:13] along with our first five

[1:46:16] partners and the naacp, and they

[1:46:19] have committed -- our leadership

[1:46:20] have committed to going hard

[1:46:22] ahead and accepting that funding

[1:46:24] from the state. I now put the

[1:46:25] next ball in your court and ask

[1:46:28] that our board of supervisors

[1:46:31] commit to asking for oversight.

[1:46:32] They require orange county

[1:46:34] health care agency to submit a

[1:46:37] formal request to the cdph to

[1:46:38] accept that continuation fund

[1:46:40] nothing later than JUNE 25th

[1:46:43] and require ochca to present a

[1:46:44] formal request plan for

[1:46:46] continuation funding at the next

[1:46:47] board of supervisors meeting.

[1:46:49] Thank you for all of your

[1:46:50] continued support of black

[1:46:51] families in orange county

[1:46:52] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:46:53] you, ma'am. MAY we have the

[1:46:56] next speaker please? Of

[1:46:57] >>speaker: good morning. My

[1:46:58] name is arissa palmer, the

[1:47:00] executive director for

[1:47:01] breast-feed L.A., the

[1:47:02] organization selected to

[1:47:03] administer orange county's first

[1:47:04] ever black infant health

[1:47:07] program. Today we respectfully

[1:47:09] ask the board to take immediate

[1:47:10] action to preserve this vital

[1:47:12] program. Firstly we ask to you

[1:47:14] direct orange county health care

[1:47:16] agency to formally request

[1:47:18] continuation funding for cdph no

[1:47:21] later than JUNE 25th with all

[1:47:23] subcontractors included on that

[1:47:25] email for transparency and to

[1:47:26] accept fund thatting within one

[1:47:28] week of approval. Finally we

[1:47:29] ask to you support a sole source

[1:47:30] agreement with first five orange

[1:47:32] county, so services can continue

[1:47:35] for families without disruption

[1:47:36] while a long-term solution is

[1:47:38] established. The question

[1:47:40] before us is not whether

[1:47:41] disparities exist. The data is

[1:47:42] clear that it does. The

[1:47:44] question is whether orange

[1:47:46] county will continue investing

[1:47:47] in a be proven solution that

[1:47:49] directly supports mothers,

[1:47:51] babies, and families. We urge

[1:47:55] to you act swiftly so that the

[1:47:56] progress we have made is not

[1:47:57] lost and that black families in

[1:47:59] orange county know their health

[1:48:00] and well-being will remain a

[1:48:01] priority. Thank you

[1:48:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:48:05] you, ma'am.

[1:48:06] >>speaker: good morning,

[1:48:07] supervisors. My name is cindy

[1:48:10] young, and I serve as director

[1:48:11] of strategic partnerships for

[1:48:13] breast-feed L.A. Over the past

[1:48:14] several months community

[1:48:15] members, partners and

[1:48:16] stakeholders have heard varying

[1:48:18] explanations regarding the cost

[1:48:20] and sustainability of the black

[1:48:21] infant health program yet to

[1:48:22] date we have not received a

[1:48:23] complete accounting of how

[1:48:25] program funds were actually

[1:48:28] spent. We respectfully request

[1:48:28] full transparency from the

[1:48:29] orange county health care

[1:48:31] agency. Specifically we ask for

[1:48:31] a detailed accounting of all

[1:48:34] funds allocated and expended for

[1:48:35] black infant health, not just

[1:48:37] projected costs. This should

[1:48:39] include any expenditures covered

[1:48:40] through health realignment funds

[1:48:42] and a clear breakdown of how

[1:48:44] public dollars were utilized.

[1:48:45] This information should be

[1:48:46] provided to each member of this

[1:48:47] board, first five orange county,

[1:48:49] and breast-feed L.A. We also

[1:48:51] ask that orange county health

[1:48:52] care agency commit to

[1:48:53] understanding and fully

[1:48:55] utilizing available funding

[1:48:57] opportunities including the pair

[1:48:59] natal equity initiative. Orange

[1:49:00] county should not leave state

[1:49:03] resources on the table when

[1:49:05] those funds exist to

[1:49:07] specifically address maternal

[1:49:08] and infant health inequities.

[1:49:10] We urge the county to pursue

[1:49:11] these opportunities in a timely

[1:49:12] and strategic matter

[1:49:13] >>clerk, robin stieler: and the

[1:49:15] next three speakers, please come

[1:49:17] forward, tanya livingston,

[1:49:20] molina gibson and jasmine alan

[1:49:21] >>speaker: good morning, charles

[1:49:23] barfield, oca's general manager.

[1:49:24] I was going to riddle you for 2

[1:49:25] minutes on vacancies, deletions

[1:49:27] and workload, but since I only

[1:49:29] have 1 minute, let me get right

[1:49:32] to it. Buried in this final

[1:49:33] budget resolution are two

[1:49:35] cost-saving measures. One aimed

[1:49:37] at retirement and another one

[1:49:39] aimed at part-time plus. There

[1:49:42] is no way ocea can sign off on

[1:49:44] this in its current form. I've

[1:49:46] been told that there are 2000

[1:49:48] county workers there are

[1:49:48] eligible for this, and with the

[1:49:51] proceed violations that call for

[1:49:52] automatic and permanent

[1:49:54] deletions, it's a non-starter

[1:49:57] for us. My last comment is not

[1:50:00] addressed to this board, but

[1:50:03] rather to 12 employees in the

[1:50:04] D.A., dna collection unit and

[1:50:07] their families. For the last

[1:50:08] couple weeks, you know, we've

[1:50:09] struggled to get answers from

[1:50:13] the county on certain aspects

[1:50:14] of -- or promises that have been

[1:50:16] made. Finally, last night at

[1:50:17] 8:00 the county put their

[1:50:20] commitment in writing. And I'm

[1:50:21] speaking to the 12 employees and

[1:50:23] their families. Yes, it took

[1:50:24] longer, it should not have taken

[1:50:27] this long, and, you shouldn't

[1:50:27] have been placed in such

[1:50:29] uncertainty. But we got there,

[1:50:31] and we got there together.

[1:50:33] Thank you for your time.

[1:50:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[1:50:40] you.

[1:50:44] >>speaker: hello. My name is

[1:50:45] tanaya livingston and a

[1:50:46] participant of bih orange

[1:50:48] county. I'm a black mother who

[1:50:49] has been directly affected by

[1:50:50] race. And I discrimination by

[1:50:51] the medical system that has not

[1:50:53] been designed in the favor of

[1:50:54] mothers who look like myself.

[1:50:56] Black mothers depend on bih to

[1:50:59] be able to gain resources and

[1:50:59] support where the system failed

[1:51:01] us. There is no community nor

[1:51:02] support that directly identifys

[1:51:04] and intentionally supports the

[1:51:06] indifferences that black mothers

[1:51:07] experience with prenatal and

[1:51:10] postpartum complications. It is

[1:51:11] vital for the community and for

[1:51:14] the future of african-americans

[1:51:16] to have this support. Thank

[1:51:17] you.

[1:51:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[1:51:23] you.

[1:51:26] >>speaker: hello. My name is

[1:51:27] molina gibson, I'm a

[1:51:30] credentialed former elementary

[1:51:31] teacher, a board certified

[1:51:32] behavioral analyst and a

[1:51:35] birthing doula. I work with

[1:51:37] infants all the way to adults.

[1:51:38] A lot this work is in the

[1:51:39] disability realm. Since I

[1:51:41] started birth work it has been

[1:51:44] made clear that preconception

[1:51:46] birth and postpartum experiences

[1:51:49] can play a fundamental role in

[1:51:53] the infants' overall growth and

[1:51:56] development. To kind of tie

[1:51:57] this all back in, as you heard,

[1:51:59] black women in the united states

[1:52:02] face maternal mortality rates

[1:52:03] nearly three times higher than

[1:52:06] their counterparts, a disparity

[1:52:07] that urgent action. I'm calling

[1:52:09] on the supervisor to mandate

[1:52:13] that ochca, first five, and oc

[1:52:16] and breast-feed L.A. To identify

[1:52:16] and commit to a sustainable path

[1:52:19] forward for black infant health

[1:52:20] in orange county. Thank you.

[1:52:22] >>clerk, robin stieler: karen

[1:52:27] costin, leah burk quest and

[1:52:34] chandra caldwell.

[1:52:36] >>speaker: hello, in one year

[1:52:37] since our program's inception we

[1:52:39] have served over 70 mom ands

[1:52:41] their families, been designated

[1:52:43] as a model program by the cdph

[1:52:44] and established relationships

[1:52:47] between the county based and

[1:52:48] community based program alike.

[1:52:51] The bih supports various county

[1:52:54] and statewide he public health

[1:52:55] initiatives, promoting safe

[1:52:57] sleep mark term mental health,

[1:53:00] child passenger safety and asus

[1:53:02] prevention. However, we are

[1:53:04] only a pilot program serving 2%

[1:53:06] of the population. The black

[1:53:08] community is twice as large as

[1:53:13] the entire ousd k-12 population,

[1:53:15] yet programming is always under

[1:53:16] contention. I'm asking you to

[1:53:18] take the lives of black mothers

[1:53:21] and babies as seriously as you

[1:53:24] do the education for all of your

[1:53:25] children in orange county. We

[1:53:26] are calling for the same fiscal

[1:53:28] transparency that you expect of

[1:53:29] your constituents. Thank you

[1:53:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[1:53:38] you.

[1:53:39] >>speaker: my name is karen

[1:53:42] costin from black infant health

[1:53:44] kern county. Every baby

[1:53:48] deserves an equal chance and

[1:53:49] healthy stock market yet black

[1:53:51] infants continue to experience

[1:53:52] higher rates of infant mortality

[1:53:55] and poor health outcomes in

[1:53:57] every group. They are related

[1:53:58] to differences and access to

[1:53:59] quality health care mark term

[1:54:01] support, safehousing and other

[1:54:02] resources that help families

[1:54:04] thrive. Investing in black

[1:54:05] infant health benefits our

[1:54:07] entire community. While mothers

[1:54:09] receive culturally responsive

[1:54:11] prenatal and postpartum care,

[1:54:13] mental health support and access

[1:54:14] to trusted community-based

[1:54:16] services, babies are more likely

[1:54:18] to be born healthy and reach

[1:54:20] their full potential. I

[1:54:20] encourage the board to continue

[1:54:24] supporting this program that

[1:54:25] reduces disparities and

[1:54:26] prioritizing black infant

[1:54:28] health. We are investing in

[1:54:30] healthier families, stronger

[1:54:30] communities and a brighter

[1:54:31] future for orange county. Thank

[1:54:34] you for your time and

[1:54:34] commitment

[1:54:37] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[1:54:48] you.

[1:54:50] >>speaker: good morning, my name

[1:54:50] is chandra. I'm asking for

[1:54:53] truth and transparency. Imagine

[1:54:54] being born african-american and

[1:54:56] we all know the history of

[1:54:57] america. African-americans run

[1:54:58] fortunately still feeling the

[1:55:00] side effects of slavery. The

[1:55:01] black infant mortality rate is

[1:55:03] really high in orange county.

[1:55:04] Black infant health was here to

[1:55:06] combat that. That being said,

[1:55:09] as you imagine being

[1:55:10] african-american, how would you

[1:55:12] handle racism? How would you

[1:55:14] handle discrimination? How

[1:55:15] would you handle a system built

[1:55:17] against you in having a safe

[1:55:18] place as a mother being taken

[1:55:20] away due to lies and

[1:55:22] discriminatory action? We're

[1:55:26] asking for transparency with the

[1:55:27] budget, liberty, and justice for

[1:55:29] all. And african-americans are

[1:55:30] included in that "all" because

[1:55:36] we're all created under the

[1:55:39] equal, in GOD's eyes

[1:55:39] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:55:40] you.

[1:55:43] >>clerk, robin stieler: keisha

[1:55:46] harris, amonte randolph and

[1:55:48] deborah donothan.

[1:55:49] >>speaker: good morning, my name

[1:55:52] is leah bjurquist, a certified

[1:55:53] child birth educator and

[1:55:55] certified doula and I serve on

[1:55:56] the board of directors for

[1:55:59] breast-feed L.A. The maternal

[1:56:04] mortality rate for black mothers

[1:56:08] are expedientially higher than

[1:56:10] their white counterparts. I

[1:56:12] have been witness to the

[1:56:13] inequities and we are

[1:56:14] respectfully asking that you

[1:56:16] stand with black families and

[1:56:20] demand that ochca immediately

[1:56:21] pursue continuation funding and

[1:56:25] work with first five oc and

[1:56:27] breast-feed L.A. To ensure black

[1:56:29] infant health remains in orange

[1:56:31] county. I'm asking you to

[1:56:33] establish a pathway for

[1:56:35] implementation, award a sole

[1:56:38] source contract to first five oc

[1:56:41] so breast-feed L.A. Can continue

[1:56:44] operating black infant health in

[1:56:47] oc without interruption. Thank

[1:56:51] you.

[1:56:53] >>speaker: good morning, my name

[1:56:54] is keisha harris, and I am a

[1:56:57] mental health professional with

[1:56:57] black infant health orange

[1:56:59] county. I'm here today to ask

[1:57:00] for your support in keeping

[1:57:01] black infant health in orange

[1:57:04] county. This program provides

[1:57:05] critical support to black

[1:57:06] mothers, babies and families

[1:57:09] helping address the disparities

[1:57:10] that continue to impact black

[1:57:13] maternal and infant health.

[1:57:15] We're asking the board to direct

[1:57:17] ochca to immediately secure

[1:57:22] continuation funding present --

[1:57:23] a clear plan to keep the program

[1:57:25] operating and work with first

[1:57:27] five oc and breast-feed L.A. To

[1:57:28] ensure there's no interruption

[1:57:29] in services. We also ask for

[1:57:31] transparency about how fund has

[1:57:34] been used and a commitment to

[1:57:35] pursuing future funding

[1:57:36] opportunities. As someone who

[1:57:38] works directly with participates

[1:57:40] and growing up in orange county,

[1:57:42] I see the impact this program

[1:57:44] has every day. The families we

[1:57:47] serve rely on these services,

[1:57:48] relationships and resources.

[1:57:49] They should not have to worry

[1:57:51] about having -- about losing a

[1:57:53] program that is helping them

[1:57:55] thrive. I urge you to take

[1:57:57] action today to ensure black

[1:57:58] infant health remains available

[1:58:00] to the families in orange

[1:58:01] county

[1:58:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[1:58:07] you, ma'am.

[1:58:10] >>speaker: my name is imani

[1:58:12] randolph, a youngish ph.D.

[1:58:15] Student at uc irvine, who has

[1:58:17] grown to love the uniqueness of

[1:58:19] orange county. As I look toward

[1:58:20] graduation, knowing I've done

[1:58:21] everything that has been asked

[1:58:25] of myself in my generation

[1:58:26] including going to 62, giving

[1:58:27] back to my community, looking

[1:58:28] forward to getting a good job

[1:58:30] and hopefully being able to

[1:58:32] start a family, I'm faced with

[1:58:33] the reality that I'm more than

[1:58:36] three times likely to die

[1:58:37] pursuing those goals as my

[1:58:39] counter-arts and if I survive my

[1:58:41] child will be two part-times

[1:58:41] times as likely to die in

[1:58:43] infancy. This is not only my

[1:58:44] reality but the reality of over

[1:58:46] 50,000 families here in orange

[1:58:47] county. Knowing this, I was

[1:58:49] encouraged by knowing that black

[1:58:51] infant health was a sustainable

[1:58:52] effort to support those

[1:58:54] families. However, now they

[1:58:56] face lack of funding, and I am

[1:58:59] asking that you all seek to

[1:59:01] encourage and support a

[1:59:03] collaborative solution that

[1:59:07] directs ochca, first five, and

[1:59:09] breast-feed L.A. To identify and

[1:59:10] execute a sustainable path to

[1:59:12] keep black infant healthy in

[1:59:13] orange county

[1:59:15] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[1:59:17] you.

[1:59:19] >>speaker: good morning. My

[1:59:20] name is deborah donothan.

[1:59:22] Before approving the budget, I

[1:59:24] asked the board to make clear

[1:59:27] how much fund something going

[1:59:29] into behavioral health, court

[1:59:33] connected services, care court,

[1:59:34] conservatorship-related systems,

[1:59:35] crisis response placements and

[1:59:37] prevention. The public deserves

[1:59:38] outcome measures to ensure the

[1:59:40] people are being stabilized in

[1:59:42] the community or pushed deeper

[1:59:43] into courts, institutions,

[1:59:46] conservatorships or restrictive

[1:59:48] placements, county funding

[1:59:49] should protect families,

[1:59:50] disability rights, prevention

[1:59:52] and community-based care, not

[1:59:54] quietly expand systems that lead

[1:59:56] to loss of rights. Thank you.

[1:59:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: no

[1:59:59] further speakers, MR. Chair

[2:00:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:00:02] you, MADAM Clerk. Board

[2:00:03] members, do we have any staff

[2:00:05] presentations you'd like to hear

[2:00:12] from? I don't see any. Okay.

[2:00:13] Supervisor sarmiento?

[2:00:15] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

[2:00:16] MR. Chair. I'm simply going to

[2:00:17] go ahead and make my comments

[2:00:21] that we -- that I partially made

[2:00:23] at previous straw vote meeting

[2:00:25] at the last time -- last time we

[2:00:27] heard the budget item. I want

[2:00:28] to reiterate on recommended

[2:00:30] action number 1, program 1, I

[2:00:33] will be a "no" vote based upon

[2:00:35] the arguments made then. I also

[2:00:39] want to ask our ceo, I know

[2:00:41] we've received many comments

[2:00:42] regarding a potential

[2:00:43] coordinated re-entry center in

[2:00:45] the city of santa ana, which is

[2:00:47] different from our workforce

[2:00:48] re-entry in the city of orange.

[2:00:52] So I want to clarify, MADAM Ceo,

[2:00:54] does this budget that we're

[2:00:56] deliberating and potentially

[2:00:58] adopting today include the

[2:01:00] re-entry project on hesperian

[2:01:02] and the city of santa ana?

[2:01:03] >>michelle aguirre: the budget

[2:01:06] adoption today for fiscal year

[2:01:08] '26/'27 does not approve the

[2:01:09] project. It does not commit the

[2:01:11] county to moving forward with

[2:01:13] that project, supervisor

[2:01:14] sarmiento great, thank you. I

[2:01:15] just wanted to make sure we have

[2:01:18] that on the record as we

[2:01:19] we have

[2:01:21] some members of the public and

[2:01:22] members of the city council from

[2:01:23] santa ana that wanted to make

[2:01:25] comment on that. So thank you

[2:01:27] for clarifying. I also wanted

[2:01:31] to make comeant on item -- on

[2:01:35] recommended action 29. So I did

[2:01:37] hear MR. Barfield come before us

[2:01:40] and explain that potentially

[2:01:44] 2000 employees could qualify for

[2:01:45] the requirement assistance

[2:01:46] program and the way that the

[2:01:49] policy is currently written,

[2:01:51] every position that someone

[2:01:53] retires out of could be

[2:01:54] considered for deletion. I

[2:01:56] thank you for sending a memo to

[2:01:57] us right now with some

[2:01:58] additional language. But we

[2:02:02] know if this -- if this is

[2:02:04] exercised we could have a huge

[2:02:07] impact on our workforce if

[2:02:08] everybody took us up on that.

[2:02:10] Before we delete any positions,

[2:02:13] I know that the amend red line

[2:02:15] version is that it would be at

[2:02:23] discretion and purview of the

[2:02:24] county -- what I would like to

[2:02:25] add for the board's

[2:02:27] consideration is to ask that

[2:02:29] staff bring the vacancy list

[2:02:31] back to the board for

[2:02:33] consideration. That way we can

[2:02:35] have another -- maybe five pair

[2:02:36] of eyes look at, this but I do

[2:02:38] think that this is something

[2:02:40] that -- with respect to

[2:02:42] workforce impacts here, is

[2:02:44] important for us to also be able

[2:02:46] to comment and remark on that.

[2:02:48] So I just wanted to make those

[2:02:50] comments, MR. Chair, for the

[2:02:52] record and we'll hand that back

[2:02:52] to you

[2:02:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:02:54] you. I might weigh in because

[2:02:57] we do have some additional

[2:03:00] language presented by staff. My

[2:03:01] suggestion would be a little bit

[2:03:03] different, that would be to

[2:03:04] simply eliminate section 4a.

[2:03:08] Not deal with eliminating

[2:03:09] employees. Rather if there's to

[2:03:12] be an elimination, we have

[2:03:13] quarterly updates and staff

[2:03:14] could come forward on a

[2:03:15] quarterly basis and indicate if

[2:03:19] some positions would need it be

[2:03:21] or consider for vacating

[2:03:21] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[2:03:23] &

[2:03:23] second that

[2:03:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: just

[2:03:26] eliminate that, leave it open.

[2:03:28] Because we do come back

[2:03:31] quarterly for revisions and then

[2:03:33] this board could consider

[2:03:34] whether it be appropriate. That

[2:03:36] would be my having us

[2:03:37] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

[2:03:40] I support that request. Also, I

[2:03:46] had some questions about the

[2:03:49] issue that we discussed here

[2:03:51] about the re-entry center. So

[2:03:54] help me understand, because the

[2:03:57] budget -- a straw vote budget

[2:03:58] that we adopted we discussed the

[2:04:01] fact that there was $21 million

[2:04:05] within that budget for the cip

[2:04:08] to pay for phase 1 of that

[2:04:10] project. And then we sort of

[2:04:12] paused that before we could get

[2:04:14] here today. But what has

[2:04:17] changed in the budget to remove

[2:04:24] that $21 million from that cip

[2:04:26] budgeted item

[2:04:27] >>michelle aguirre: supervisor,

[2:04:33] to clarify, so the budget -- we

[2:04:35] budget appropriations within our

[2:04:40] capital project budget. But

[2:04:43] that does not provide any

[2:04:43] authority authorization to move

[2:04:45] forward related to the project

[2:04:46] itself. The board has to

[2:04:48] approve that separately. And

[2:04:51] the board has not considered

[2:04:52] that item yet. That would be in

[2:04:57] the future. So the budget is

[2:04:58] just -- I would say just the

[2:05:00] budget, right. It's just the

[2:05:02] capital project budget that is

[2:05:04] being adopted. It's just the

[2:05:06] appropriations. It's not the

[2:05:08] project itself that is being

[2:05:09] considered today.

[2:05:10] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[2:05:14] So my concern is that -- and I

[2:05:15] raised this at the last meeting.

[2:05:19] We are right now trying to

[2:05:20] basically find money in the

[2:05:23] budget because we have needs.

[2:05:25] We don't want to have any

[2:05:29] layoffs or terminations, and so

[2:05:35] we have squirreled away -- it's

[2:05:36] $61 million for the phase 1 and

[2:05:40] phase 2 for this project. And I

[2:05:42] had asked previously -- I don't

[2:05:45] think I got that information --

[2:05:46] what percentage -- what portion

[2:05:52] of the 61 million is walled off

[2:05:53] funds that can't be used for any

[2:05:54] other purpose other than that

[2:05:57] type of purpose versus what

[2:05:59] portion of the 61 million is

[2:06:02] what we might call general fund

[2:06:04] discretionary dollars. And so

[2:06:08] I'm just concerned that we have

[2:06:10] this vague position that it's

[2:06:13] not in the budget, but we still

[2:06:16] have $61 million sitting in a

[2:06:19] bank account itemized for this

[2:06:21] particular project. So if that

[2:06:22] project is not moving forward,

[2:06:25] then why are we keeping $61

[2:06:27] million in a bank account for

[2:06:28] this project? When we have so

[2:06:31] many other needs?

[2:06:32] >>michelle aguirre: supervisor,

[2:06:38] I would defer to kim for the

[2:06:41] specifics of the total amount.

[2:06:45] However, for particular/27, the

[2:06:47] monies mentioned previously are

[2:06:50] (Ab) 109-related fundings. That

[2:06:51] money is one-time growth money.

[2:06:53] It's not an ongoing funding

[2:06:54] source, so we would not use that

[2:06:58] for ongoing costs. And it is

[2:07:03] also restricted to -- I guess,

[2:07:05] whatever the community

[2:07:07] corrections partnership

[2:07:10] determines the use should be.

[2:07:13] So the ccp has to approve use of

[2:07:16] those monies, and then that

[2:07:18] comes to the board. But the

[2:07:21] board does not have the

[2:07:23] authority to reallocate those

[2:07:26] monies per statute. And I don't

[2:07:29] know on the remaining portion if

[2:07:31] there's any different funding

[2:07:34] source. Kim oana, I would defer

[2:07:36] to you related to that, or if

[2:07:40] that's not even part of your

[2:07:41] 26/27 budget

[2:07:41] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[2:07:42] because that's why I asked for

[2:07:46] the breakdown, because doing it

[2:07:48] up here on the dais, it does get

[2:07:50] complicated. And (Ab) 109

[2:07:52] funding we use for a variety of

[2:07:56] things. We pay for staff with

[2:07:59] (Ab) 109 funding. We pay for

[2:08:03] the realignment money. We pay

[2:08:04] for things with

[2:08:06] >>michelle aguirre: yeah. With

[2:08:07] the (Ab) 109 monies, there's an

[2:08:09] ongoing funding source but

[2:08:10] there's also a growth component.

[2:08:12] So the growth component is

[2:08:14] one-time moneys that we use for

[2:08:16] one-time costs. So that's the

[2:08:18] difference, supervisor. But you

[2:08:21] are correct, there is an ongoing

[2:08:23] (Ab) 109-related funding source,

[2:08:25] and that allocation of funding

[2:08:27] goes to the departments to cover

[2:08:29] ongoing costs. But not this

[2:08:31] component of (Ab) 109

[2:08:32] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[2:08:33] understood. But as has been

[2:08:35] explained to us multiple times

[2:08:38] is that we have a bit of a

[2:08:40] budget hit this year and next

[2:08:42] year because of a lot of the

[2:08:43] changes that have been made at

[2:08:45] the federal government cutting

[2:08:47] our funding, that flows to the

[2:08:48] state. The state then cutting

[2:08:52] our funding, and so we're trying

[2:08:58] to correct for those budget

[2:09:00] losses. Then the budget smooths

[2:09:02] out, as we get into the later

[2:09:05] years. And then we have the

[2:09:08] situation as it relates to the

[2:09:09] retirement plan being fully

[2:09:14] funded as we get into 2030, 31,

[2:09:18] 32, and that's $229 million

[2:09:19] coming into the county coffers

[2:09:21] that we don't have right now

[2:09:23] because we sent that money over

[2:09:25] to ocers. Annually

[2:09:27] . So I'm just trying to figure

[2:09:28] out, I know you're calling it

[2:09:30] bun-time fund ising so we --

[2:09:32] within-time funding so we can't

[2:09:34] use it for staffing but we have

[2:09:36] a one-time need right now

[2:09:38] because we're in a current

[2:09:52] budget difficulty. So how are

[2:09:55] we allocating the funding that's

[2:09:55] in that line item for that

[2:09:56] project that it appears we are

[2:10:02] not moving forward on? It's $61

[2:10:04] million. I got the number, $61

[2:10:06] million, from the response that

[2:10:08] was written for the board

[2:10:11] related to the harvey roe's memo

[2:10:13] that the labor unions gave to

[2:10:16] us. That's where it says it's

[2:10:17] $61 million. There's a

[2:10:21] sentence -- there's a graph in

[2:10:25] there.

[2:10:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: do we

[2:10:28] have a further response from

[2:10:29] staff that helped put this

[2:10:34] together? Okay. Go ahead.

[2:10:37] >>speaker: yeah, so the crc

[2:10:40] project is $21 million in the

[2:10:43] budget, but also we borrowed $42

[2:10:44] million to fund the airport fire

[2:10:47] that we need to pay back.

[2:10:48] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: hold

[2:10:50] on. I'm going to stop you right

[2:10:53] there. Sorry to interrupt, but

[2:10:54] in the document that was given

[2:10:59] to the board related to

[2:11:02] responding to ocea because they

[2:11:03] were saying, how come all this

[2:11:05] money is in this reserve

[2:11:07] account, right? What was

[2:11:10] provided to us was an analysis

[2:11:12] of how much money is in each of

[2:11:14] the reserve accounts and what

[2:11:16] the projects were that it was

[2:11:19] funding. I understand that only

[2:11:21] $21 million is earmarked for

[2:11:23] this year in the budget. That's

[2:11:25] not what I'm saying. I'm saying

[2:11:30] it's a total of $61 million.

[2:11:32] That is for phase 1 and phase 2,

[2:11:33] that's in a bank account

[2:11:34] somewhere. That's what I'm

[2:11:37] trying to understand, if we have

[2:11:40] $61 million sitting in a bank

[2:11:42] account somewhere for a project

[2:11:44] that we are not moving forward

[2:11:46] on, why are we not reallocating

[2:11:48] those funds?

[2:11:50] >>speaker: we do not have $61

[2:11:51] million

[2:11:51] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: then

[2:11:53] why does it say that in the

[2:11:53] letter?

[2:11:54] >>speaker: it's a timing issue

[2:11:56] with the repayment for the funds

[2:11:59] that were used for the fire

[2:12:01] >>michelle aguirre: so,

[2:12:02] supervisor, if you recall, we

[2:12:04] had to transfer -- we

[2:12:05] transferred $50 million out of

[2:12:08] our capital project fund over to

[2:12:10] our risk management fund to be

[2:12:12] able to begin make the

[2:12:13] settlement payments related to

[2:12:18] the airport fire. So unless

[2:12:20] there's a way that we get

[2:12:21] reimbursed related to the

[2:12:23] airport fire, we don't actually

[2:12:25] have fire in our capital project

[2:12:27] fund for that phase 2.

[2:12:29] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[2:12:30] So that memo needs to be

[2:12:32] updated to reflect that

[2:12:36] >>speaker: the harvey rose study

[2:12:37] that we're referencing and the

[2:12:38] dollars that were in there were

[2:12:47] based off of the 24/25akfer and

[2:12:48] the borrowing happens

[2:12:52] subsequently after that.

[2:12:52] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: we're

[2:12:54] trying to?Obd a way so that we

[2:12:56] all have the same information.

[2:12:56] We don't have the information

[2:12:58] that you have because we're not

[2:13:01] sitting at your computer digging

[2:13:02] down into all of the different

[2:13:04] accounts, and we rely on you to

[2:13:06] tell us the full picture, and

[2:13:08] then when we get a memo that

[2:13:10] only has a piece of the full

[2:13:12] picture because there's another

[2:13:14] piece to it, it gets things to

[2:13:16] be confused. So we need to have

[2:13:18] a full understanding, even if

[2:13:20] the point in time -- and I know

[2:13:23] this is, you know -- this is

[2:13:26] partly a -- an accountant-type

[2:13:27] of way of thinking, right?

[2:13:29] You're looking at it from a

[2:13:32] point in time. So you stop

[2:13:33] looking at the whole picture

[2:13:34] because you're just looking at

[2:13:35] this window of time. But we

[2:13:36] need to see the whole picture

[2:13:38] because we're trying to figure

[2:13:40] out where the money is. Okay.

[2:13:41] So you're saying $21 million is

[2:13:45] what we have. Okay. So my same

[2:13:47] question still applies. Of the

[2:13:50] $21 million, how much of the $21

[2:13:52] million -- it's my word is

[2:13:54] probably the wrong legal term of

[2:13:56] art, but how much of it is

[2:13:56] flexible?

[2:13:59] >>speaker: zero. The $21

[2:14:02] million for the ccp committee

[2:14:05] back in '22 -- approved back in

[2:14:08] '22, so this board can either

[2:14:09] approve or not approve the

[2:14:11] allocation of

[2:14:13] of the (Ab) 109

[2:14:15] funds and in that year that

[2:14:16] allocation was approved. This

[2:14:19] year in the budget we have the

[2:14:21] 26/27 allocation, and all of the

[2:14:23] funds anticipated are fully

[2:14:24] allocated after the departments

[2:14:26] by a percentage.

[2:14:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[2:14:30] I'm not sure I understand that

[2:14:33] response. The $21 million, that

[2:14:35] is earmarked in the budget for

[2:14:38] this re-entry project --

[2:14:41] >>speaker: was approved in 2022

[2:14:44] for the 21/22 budget as

[2:14:46] recommended by the ccp

[2:14:48] committee. So the board either

[2:14:50] can -- has the authority to

[2:14:52] either approve the allocation

[2:14:55] that the ccp committee brings

[2:14:57] forth or not approve. So that

[2:15:00] allocation was approved. So to

[2:15:04] go back, we'd have to go back to

[2:15:04] the ccp. They'll have to

[2:15:08] approve or rescind the whole

[2:15:10] allocation. They'd have to go

[2:15:10] back to the committee and then

[2:15:12] come back to the board

[2:15:12] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[2:15:14] I just want to make sure I

[2:15:16] understand if. So the $21

[2:15:17] million that is earmarked for

[2:15:19] this project, that it appears

[2:15:21] that we are not moving forward

[2:15:23] on, cannot be used for anything

[2:15:24] other than the project that we

[2:15:27] appear to not be moving forward

[2:15:28] on; is that right?

[2:15:29] >>speaker: right

[2:15:30] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

[2:15:31] what steps need to be taken so

[2:15:33] that that funding can get

[2:15:35] applied to a different project?

[2:15:37] Like we have the tay housing

[2:15:39] project with the workforce

[2:15:41] program over in orange. Is it

[2:15:43] possible to move the funds over

[2:15:45] to there to ask for that to

[2:15:46] happen

[2:15:49] >>speaker: the (Ab) 109 funds

[2:15:50] governed by the community

[2:15:51] correction partnership, so we'd

[2:15:53] have to go back to the community

[2:15:54] correction partnership and they

[2:15:56] cannot be used for juveniles

[2:15:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[2:15:58] Good to know. So that's the

[2:16:00] procedure, though, is to make an

[2:16:03] application to this other

[2:16:04] agency. This is a state

[2:16:05] agency?

[2:16:06] >>speaker: no. This is the

[2:16:08] orange county --

[2:16:08] >>speaker:

[2:16:09] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: oh,

[2:16:10] it's our agency

[2:16:13] >>speaker: it meets before the

[2:16:14] jjcc meetings that you used to

[2:16:14] attend

[2:16:16] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[2:16:19] So why didn't we just do that?

[2:16:20] I don't understand schaifs

[2:16:22] that's not part of this

[2:16:23] proceeding. This is the budget.

[2:16:24] And if you want to take

[2:16:26] subsequent action, you could ask

[2:16:26] for that.

[2:16:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[2:16:29] that's what I'm asking. What is

[2:16:29] the procedure

[2:16:30] >>michelle aguirre: I think,

[2:16:33] supervisor, what the county and

[2:16:33] staff have committed to, and I

[2:16:35] did send the communication to

[2:16:38] the city of santa ana late

[2:16:44] yesterday, I do admit late. But

[2:16:49] that -- that the project is not

[2:16:51] approved by the board to move

[2:16:53] forward. Today's action, just

[2:16:54] adoption of the budget, does not

[2:16:58] move that project forward. And

[2:16:59] county staff are happy to work

[2:17:05] with the community, the city the

[2:17:07] current site is our youth

[2:17:09] guidance center for at least a

[2:17:11] couple more years. So it's

[2:17:12] not -- this is not something

[2:17:15] that is, I would say, urge

[2:17:17] negligent nature. Just based on

[2:17:19] the budget adoption today. But

[2:17:20] in the communication to the

[2:17:23] city, I did indicate and had

[2:17:28] already reached out to mayor

[2:17:30] masqua a couple of times. Happy

[2:17:31] to schedule that meeting with

[2:17:33] the city and also have that

[2:17:35] community meeting. Based on the

[2:17:36] communications that I have seen

[2:17:40] related to this topic, there's a

[2:17:43] lot of inaccurate information

[2:17:44] out there in the community as it

[2:17:46] relates to what the proposed

[2:17:48] project is. So we would

[2:17:50] actually love to have the

[2:17:52] opportunity to meet with the

[2:17:54] city and the community to

[2:17:55] clarify and provide accurate

[2:17:58] information as to what the

[2:17:59] project would be, if the board

[2:18:01] even approves us to move forward

[2:18:05] with it. And so it is important

[2:18:08] that we have that opportunity to

[2:18:10] be over the next, you know, few

[2:18:11] months, six months, whatever.

[2:18:14] Be able to have those meetings

[2:18:15] and to communicate and hear from

[2:18:17] the public. So, but today's

[2:18:21] vote on the budget does not

[2:18:21] approve the project or commit us

[2:18:22] to it.

[2:18:24] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[2:18:25] you for that clarification. And

[2:18:28] I don't want us to get into like

[2:18:29] the merits of the project

[2:18:32] per se. My comments and

[2:18:33] questions really are more about

[2:18:36] the process of understanding

[2:18:39] where the money is maintained

[2:18:41] and how flexible the accounts

[2:18:43] are and how do we access the

[2:18:45] funds to be able to pay for

[2:18:46] operational needs? And so that

[2:18:50] is where I'm still -- I feet

[2:18:55] like we -- it just trickles in,

[2:18:57] the information. It's a

[2:18:59] complicated county system in

[2:19:02] terms of the budget and all of

[2:19:04] the different accounts and

[2:19:05] reserves and mandates. And so

[2:19:07] it's really important that we

[2:19:10] have full transparency on where

[2:19:12] the money is. How much money is

[2:19:13] in each of the accounts? You

[2:19:15] and I talked about this before.

[2:19:18] We talked about like the

[2:19:18] tidelands accounts as an

[2:19:20] example. You can't see it in

[2:19:22] this year's budget, how much

[2:19:22] money is in each of the

[2:19:25] accounts. And so I'd like us --

[2:19:26] when we move forward with next

[2:19:29] year's budget, we need to figure

[2:19:31] out how to advance a budget

[2:19:33] where we can actually see what

[2:19:34] is in the bank account. Not

[2:19:37] just see what is budgeted for

[2:19:39] the operational year for the

[2:19:41] year. So those are my comments.

[2:19:42] Thank you for all of the hard

[2:19:44] work. It's a challenging time,

[2:19:45] and we appreciate all the hard

[2:19:48] work. My priority with this

[2:19:50] budget and as we continue with

[2:19:52] our bargaining is that we not

[2:19:54] have any layoffs, that we

[2:19:57] maintain our workforce so we can

[2:19:59] continue to provide excellent

[2:20:00] services to the community and

[2:20:03] that we figure out how to get

[2:20:06] through what I see as a bridge

[2:20:07] time period. Thank you

[2:20:08] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[2:20:08] supervisor nguyen

[2:20:11] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[2:20:14] MR. CHAIRMAN. I wanted to ask

[2:20:20] the ceo a question. Sorry. I

[2:20:21] wanted to ask the ceo the

[2:20:23] question, but she's

[2:20:25] communicating with county

[2:20:28] counsel. I just -- okay. So I

[2:20:32] know there's folks who are here,

[2:20:35] including mayor amess came,

[2:20:38] who's here to speak, regarding

[2:20:41] item 64, I know it's a little

[2:20:46] confusion because there's too

[2:21:01] items we're currently looking at

[2:21:02] allocating the money to move

[2:21:04] forward with a plan. If we

[2:21:06] don't support that today, when

[2:21:08] with comes back to the board for

[2:21:10] a program in the future, it

[2:21:16] would require 4/5th votes for

[2:21:22] that to pass. I know, MADAM

[2:21:40] Ceo. You mentioned it -- is the

[2:21:42] allocation made to this specific

[2:21:45] project at this address in the

[2:21:45] funding?

[2:21:47] >>michelle aguirre: no, the

[2:21:49] moneys are bugged in our capital

[2:21:52] project budget. But there's no

[2:21:54] authority for us to spend the

[2:21:55] money, right. That would

[2:21:58] require a completely separate

[2:21:59] agenda item in the future for

[2:21:59] the forward about consider.

[2:22:00] Separate, not just as part of

[2:22:07] this budget.

[2:22:08] >>janet nguyen: what if an

[2:22:10] allocation is made but then a

[2:22:12] different location is identified

[2:22:12] later

[2:22:13] >>michelle aguirre: it still

[2:22:14] requires separate board

[2:22:14] approval

[2:22:15] >>janet nguyen: and I agree, and

[2:22:18] I appreciate your comments and

[2:22:18] the letter you sent to the city

[2:22:22] and to the mayor, I want to make

[2:22:25] sure from my side that please do

[2:22:27] work with the city of santa ana

[2:22:32] and the mayor to -- if we are

[2:22:33] going to move forward about

[2:22:34] anywhere, whether it's santa ana

[2:22:36] or we're going to go to another

[2:22:37] city, we need work with the

[2:22:39] communities to making sure they

[2:22:41] understand that if there is a

[2:22:43] potential identification of a

[2:22:44] location for this program, we

[2:22:48] need to work with them, moving

[2:22:53] forward after 2028. Because the

[2:22:58] current program is still there.

[2:22:58] 2027?

[2:22:59] >>michelle aguirre: well, my

[2:23:01] understanding is it's like the

[2:23:03] middle of 2028. This is not

[2:23:05] anything that, like I said, is

[2:23:07] urgent or in the very near

[2:23:08] future

[2:23:08] >>janet nguyen: perfect. Thank

[2:23:10] you. So I want folks who are

[2:23:12] here, who are going to speak on

[2:23:14] item 64, to understand why

[2:23:17] you're hearing the conversation

[2:23:19] of the re-entry program and the

[2:23:19] budgeting and et cetera, and

[2:23:21] that's why you're hearing that.

[2:23:24] But when you get to 64, you

[2:23:26] know, which is an item just to

[2:23:26] approve the contract, the

[2:23:28] current contract, the funding

[2:23:32] for it, to continue into 2027,

[2:23:34] an allocation for their

[2:23:35] workforce re-entry service that

[2:23:40] is currently ongoing, that is at

[2:23:41] that location, but this does not

[2:23:43] commit us to the capital

[2:23:43] improvement

[2:23:44] >>michelle aguirre: different

[2:23:49] location. So 64 -- it's for

[2:23:51] orange, and it's a completely

[2:23:53] different project.

[2:23:54] >>janet nguyen: so if that's the

[2:23:57] case, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ask us

[2:24:00] to -- I know that the folks here

[2:24:02] from santa ana did not know that

[2:24:03] that's a different item. I

[2:24:06] didn't either until now. Would

[2:24:09] you allow them to go ahead and

[2:24:10] speak? Because it is part of

[2:24:12] the budget that they're really

[2:24:13] here for

[2:24:14] >>speaker: they MAY come back at

[2:24:16] public comments. The rules we

[2:24:18] have, you must ask in advance

[2:24:20] >>janet nguyen: but I think,

[2:24:22] MR. CHAIRMAN, if possible, I

[2:24:23] think they've been here since

[2:24:26] this morning, and I think maybe

[2:24:27] if we can waive that rule

[2:24:29] because I think it's -- it was

[2:24:31] very confusing. I think it

[2:24:33] would be much appreciated just

[2:24:34] to allow each of them the 1

[2:24:36] minute that we allow all the

[2:24:37] others who spoke on the budget

[2:24:39] item because there's a confusion

[2:24:40] between the two items

[2:24:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: my answer

[2:24:42] is no. That is the order of the

[2:24:44] day. If you wish to have board

[2:24:47] members vote on, that we can do

[2:24:50] that. You want to make a

[2:24:50] motion?

[2:24:51] >>janet nguyen: if possible, I

[2:24:54] would make the motion to waive

[2:24:56] and allow folks who are here to

[2:24:57] speak on the budget of the

[2:25:00] re-entry program to be able to

[2:25:06] speak at this time, 1 minute

[2:25:07] each.

[2:25:08] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there

[2:25:10] a second to that motion

[2:25:11] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll

[2:25:12] second the motion

[2:25:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM

[2:25:19] Clerk, would you call the roll

[2:25:22] [Calling roll]

[2:25:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: the

[2:25:26] motion carries. All right. And

[2:25:28] so you need to first fill out

[2:25:30] speaker form, whoever wants to

[2:25:36] speak, and how many do we have?

[2:25:37] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: they

[2:25:39] don't have that many speakers.

[2:25:41] Maybe people can consolidate for

[2:25:42] the interest of time. I think

[2:25:44] we got the message, but we want

[2:25:46] to hear from you.

[2:25:47] >>clerk, robin stieler: we have

[2:25:52] a total of 11 speakers.

[2:25:54] >>janet nguyen: since we're kind

[2:25:55] of trying to find out who the

[2:25:57] folks are because of the mix-up

[2:25:59] of the items, you can maybe just

[2:26:00] stand and get in line and just

[2:26:03] read your name, because if

[2:26:04] you've already had a speaker

[2:26:06] form, I think, we would have

[2:26:17] your information already. So --

[2:26:17] so ----

[2:26:20] >>leon page: MR. Chair, are the

[2:26:22] speakers from the city, are they

[2:26:23] speaking on the budget item or

[2:26:23] on item 64

[2:26:25] >>janet nguyen: it would be on

[2:26:26] the budget item

[2:26:27] >>chair, doug chaffee: speaking

[2:26:28] of the budget, it's part of

[2:26:28] that --

[2:26:29] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[2:26:30] because 64 is a different topic

[2:26:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: funding

[2:26:35] for future use of the re-entry

[2:26:35] center

[2:26:36] >>speaker: first of all, I want

[2:26:38] to thank the board for allowing

[2:26:41] us to speak. I'm valerie mess

[2:26:42] came, the mayor the city of

[2:26:44] santa ana. I would like to ask

[2:26:46] is that in the future, thank

[2:26:47] you, michelle aguirre for

[2:26:49] sending the letter yesterday. I

[2:26:50] would like to ask that you allow

[2:26:53] the city of santa ana to be at

[2:26:59] the table when this discussion

[2:27:01] occurs, have a community forum

[2:27:02] because it is very important.

[2:27:05] The location of 3030 hesperian

[2:27:06] way has been cleaned up by the

[2:27:08] city of santa ana, addressing

[2:27:09] the homeless issue. Our santa

[2:27:13] ana police department has done a

[2:27:15] phenomenal job and so we deserve

[2:27:16] the stiff santa ana a great

[2:27:17] quality of life just like the 34

[2:27:20] other cities in orange county.

[2:27:21] And so thank you very much for

[2:27:22] all of the support that you all

[2:27:36] have provided. And I would just

[2:27:38] ask that you invite us to the

[2:27:40] table. We are the bearers of

[2:27:41] everything. Thank you for

[2:27:43] allowing us to speak today, but

[2:27:44] please understand that we want

[2:27:45] to be at table and have this

[2:27:46] discussion with you. I do as

[2:27:49] the mayor because I represent my

[2:27:51] entire city, and it's what's

[2:27:52] best for all of us. We want the

[2:27:53] same quality of life for our

[2:27:55] families, our children. Thank

[2:27:55] you so very much

[2:27:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:27:58] you. How many more speakers do

[2:28:01] we have on this?

[2:28:02] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: and

[2:28:03] if the speakers want to say a

[2:28:07] "me too," that would be really

[2:28:08] welcome.

[2:28:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay

[2:28:11] >>speaker: good morning.

[2:28:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: did you

[2:28:15] fill out the speaker forms,

[2:28:15] please

[2:28:17] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes, she

[2:28:18] did

[2:28:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. Go

[2:28:20] ahead

[2:28:22] >>speaker: martha molina, with

[2:28:23] the riverview neighborhood

[2:28:24] association. I placed this list

[2:28:28] on your -- I don't know if I can

[2:28:30] do this. Okay. Great. So two

[2:28:32] weeks ago I came and we will a

[2:28:33] letter signed by eight

[2:28:35] neighborhoods. Today we have a

[2:28:36] letter signed by 23

[2:28:37] neighborhoods. They're listed

[2:28:41] there, we work very hard, as

[2:28:42] we've let you know, since the

[2:28:48] mayor valerie mezcal goss --

[2:28:49] amezcua meets with us every

[2:28:50] month for the last four years.

[2:28:52] We still have issues. This is

[2:28:54] the graffiti in my neighborhood.

[2:28:56] Three walls were hit this

[2:28:57] weekend. We couldn't get them

[2:29:00] cleaned until monday. We have

[2:29:01] million-dollar homes there.

[2:29:02] We're very proud of it. We work

[2:29:04] very hard. And as we celebrate

[2:29:06] the freedom of america, you

[2:29:10] know, we need occlusion, we

[2:29:12] need -- we need inclusion, we

[2:29:13] need participation, and I read

[2:29:15] that the state funds require

[2:29:16] community outreach. We

[2:29:17] appreciate your attention.

[2:29:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:29:20] you.

[2:29:20] >>speaker: good morning. My

[2:29:22] name is danny vega. I don't

[2:29:24] even know what to say with all

[2:29:25] of this confusion. I'm just a

[2:29:28] father with four daughters and I

[2:29:29] was going to come here to speak

[2:29:32] against the center because, you

[2:29:33] know, santa ana, it seems like

[2:29:35] the county is always putting

[2:29:37] these programs in our city, and

[2:29:42] I think it's really unfair. And

[2:29:44] it's really disheartening. It

[2:29:45] feels like there's this aura in

[2:29:48] the room that nobody wants to

[2:29:50] hear senior residents out.

[2:29:51] I went back to listen to the

[2:29:55] MARCH 27th, 2018 meeting when

[2:29:59] there was a plan to put homeless

[2:30:01] tents around certain cities.

[2:30:03] And the residents that went out

[2:30:05] there to speak out against it,

[2:30:06] to say the exact sale thing that

[2:30:09] I was going to say, we're

[2:30:10] treated much, much better. They

[2:30:11] even had apologies from the

[2:30:12] board. But when it comes to

[2:30:15] santa ana, it almost seems like

[2:30:16] our kids don't matter. And it's

[2:30:17] really sad

[2:30:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:30:24] you, sir.

[2:30:28] >>speaker: chair, council,

[2:30:30] supervisors, dale, 36-year

[2:30:31] resident of santa ana. I was

[2:30:33] here again to speak on the

[2:30:34] issue, the re-entry program.

[2:30:36] There is a lot of confusion

[2:30:38] between 64 and 94. So I'm glad

[2:30:39] you guys cleared that up, that

[2:30:41] the project is not approved.

[2:30:42] And I implore you to make sure

[2:30:45] that you have community outreach

[2:30:47] to whoever is going to be

[2:30:49] impacted by this re-entry

[2:30:51] project. It's very important

[2:30:53] that the transparency is there,

[2:30:55] and it's also important that

[2:30:57] other cities are included in the

[2:30:58] discussion instead of just

[2:31:01] always including santa ana

[2:31:03] because it's a county seat. So

[2:31:05] i hope that you keep that in

[2:31:07] mind when it comes to -- in

[2:31:08] front of you later on, whether

[2:31:10] it's this year or next year or

[2:31:11] whenever. Thank you

[2:31:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:31:18] you, sir.

[2:31:20] >>speaker: carl bener, also a

[2:31:21] resident of santa ana. I wore

[2:31:23] my red wing jersey so that

[2:31:26] vincent could recognize me. But

[2:31:28] just support also. I see a need

[2:31:30] for the re-entry program, but we

[2:31:33] need to talk to the communities.

[2:31:33] You need to involve the

[2:31:34] communities and talk to where it

[2:31:39] is and really keep it out of the

[2:31:41] highly residential-built cities.

[2:31:42] Because, though it will help

[2:31:43] many people get back to a normal

[2:31:46] life, there are some that will

[2:31:49] just use the steppingstone. I'm

[2:31:50] glad we are hearing this

[2:31:51] conversation today. Please

[2:31:53] include the local cities in the

[2:31:54] discussions where you are going

[2:31:56] to locate it. And supervisor

[2:31:58] nguyen, welcome back to the

[2:31:59] board. I appreciate you being

[2:32:03] here. Thank you.

[2:32:04] >>speaker: good afternoon. My

[2:32:05] name is melissa and I'm a

[2:32:11] resident of santa ana. I'm here

[2:32:12] to support -- the re-entry in

[2:32:16] the city of santa ana because we

[2:32:17] and the mayor has been working

[2:32:19] very hard on cleaning up our

[2:32:21] city and making it a better

[2:32:22] place. We have government

[2:32:24] buildings here that we have

[2:32:28] people in all types of -- all

[2:32:29] types of representatives coming

[2:32:31] to our city. Our goal is to not

[2:32:34] have our city look worse or have

[2:32:37] any more homeless or anything

[2:32:39] like that. It does not make us

[2:32:40] look better or represent our

[2:32:42] city. For the last couple of

[2:32:47] years, it's been a misfire. But

[2:32:48] there's been a great job on

[2:32:51] removing presentable first

[2:32:52] street by the 5 freeway,

[2:32:54] cleaning up that whole area.

[2:32:57] And in regards to our children,

[2:32:58] I'm sure none of you would want

[2:33:00] to have a problem like that in

[2:33:04] your city. So if you could

[2:33:07] please consider that when you

[2:33:09] have your meeting for that.

[2:33:17] Thank you.

[2:33:18] >>speaker: good morning. Victor

[2:33:21] mendez, PRESIDENT Of the zoo

[2:33:21] district neighborhood

[2:33:23] association. I wanted to

[2:33:24] reiterate what mayor amezcua

[2:33:26] said about we're a welcoming

[2:33:28] community. My own neighborhood

[2:33:29] on east first street up to four

[2:33:32] years ago was horrendous. We

[2:33:35] were infested with homelessness,

[2:33:36] transient, prostitutes, drug

[2:33:37] addicts. The city invested

[2:33:38] millions of dollars, the

[2:33:41] community invested a lot of time

[2:33:43] and the place is now civil. And

[2:33:46] home to many people including

[2:33:47] afghan refugees. We are very

[2:33:50] happy to have them and we've

[2:33:52] done a lot of work to keep

[2:33:53] things safe and secure in these

[2:33:55] times. So as far as I'm

[2:33:58] concerned, I'm just too old to

[2:34:01] pay for the same real estate.

[2:34:03] I don't want to see it happen

[2:34:05] again. I don't want to go out

[2:34:07] there at night patrolling, so

[2:34:08] please do what you can to make

[2:34:09] the situation safe and secure

[2:34:16] for everybody. Thank you.

[2:34:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: the

[2:34:21] remaining four speakers are

[2:34:22] still scheduled to speak on 64

[2:34:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: are there

[2:34:25] any more speakers?

[2:34:29] >>clerk, robin stieler: no.

[2:34:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[2:34:32] right. We're back here, and I

[2:34:33] see supervisor sarmiento. Do

[2:34:35] you have any further comments

[2:34:36] >>vincente sarmiento: yeah.

[2:34:38] Just a final comment on the

[2:34:40] breast-feeding L.A. To say that

[2:34:43] we have a meeting with their

[2:34:45] team and we'll continue to work

[2:34:47] with first five. I'm the

[2:34:49] vice-chair on that board. We

[2:34:50] know how important this program

[2:34:53] is. We'll find a way to work

[2:34:55] with hca and make sure that we

[2:34:57] come to some conclusion on that.

[2:34:58] To the city, and thank you for

[2:35:00] those of you who spoke on this

[2:35:02] item, I know there might have

[2:35:02] been some confusion. The

[2:35:04] re-entry word doesn't apply just

[2:35:06] to this. There's a whole campus

[2:35:07] that's being developed in the

[2:35:10] city of orange. And I think the

[2:35:11] ground-break something tomorrow.

[2:35:14] And it involves the

[2:35:16] transitional-aged youth that

[2:35:19] will have a new campus and a new

[2:35:20] workforce re-entry on the front

[2:35:23] end. And that will be item 64.

[2:35:25] So, you know, I know that the

[2:35:26] titles were confusing, but to

[2:35:29] the extent that I believe the

[2:35:32] ceo was able to send out a

[2:35:34] letter -- thank you, MADAM Ceo,

[2:35:35] for sending that letter out --

[2:35:37] last night to the city manager.

[2:35:38] I know we were on the phone with

[2:35:39] the city manager letting him

[2:35:41] know that the ceo was working on

[2:35:42] this, just to clear things up in

[2:35:44] advance. But I think your point

[2:35:45] was well received. Thank you

[2:35:47] for hosting a community meeting

[2:35:49] that I attended last week where

[2:35:51] I made my position clear on

[2:35:52] this. So I want to thank the

[2:35:55] staff. And I do believe that,

[2:35:56] to the extent that the program

[2:35:58] is a good program, and that's

[2:36:01] something I think everybody

[2:36:02] said. It's site location that's

[2:36:04] the tricky part of any programs

[2:36:05] like this. So to the extent

[2:36:07] there's advance work, wasn't a

[2:36:08] program to be successful and

[2:36:10] embraced by not only the city,

[2:36:12] but the surrounding neighborhood

[2:36:15] and businesses that -- where it

[2:36:17] will be located. I want to

[2:36:19] thank the ceo and her team for,

[2:36:21] you know, re-evaluating and

[2:36:23] making sure that we do things in

[2:36:25] a way that everybody can be

[2:36:27] proud of, you know, what will

[2:36:29] be, I think, a great system of

[2:36:31] oc cares, that she's worked on

[2:36:33] for many, many years. I think

[2:36:36] this whole idea of oc cares

[2:36:38] began back in 2019. So we know

[2:36:40] a big significant piece is going

[2:36:41] to be tomorrow when that ground

[2:36:43] is broken in the city of orange

[2:36:46] and that's the kind of work that

[2:36:48] I think you are -- you know, we

[2:36:49] are very proud of your efforts

[2:36:52] in that. And that's the way we

[2:36:54] should move forward. With that,

[2:36:55] MR. Chair, those are my

[2:36:56] comments. Thank you for the

[2:36:56] time

[2:36:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: any other

[2:36:59] comments? Well, I need to kind

[2:37:03] of speak on the re-entry center

[2:37:04] myself. I'm going to go back a

[2:37:07] ways. When I first came on this

[2:37:09] board that was almost eight

[2:37:11] years ago, and one of the

[2:37:12] committees I was assigned to was

[2:37:15] the orange county criminal

[2:37:16] justice coordinating council.

[2:37:18] And I remember first walking

[2:37:20] into that meeting. I looked

[2:37:23] around. Who are all these

[2:37:25] people? We had the three

[2:37:28] presiding judges present from

[2:37:30] each of our court systems,

[2:37:32] MR. Spitzer, the D.A. Was there,

[2:37:35] the public defender was there,

[2:37:36] the head of the probation

[2:37:39] department was present, we had

[2:37:40] health care representatives

[2:37:43] there, and we had of course our

[2:37:45] ceo present as well as financial

[2:37:47] people. The homeless liaison

[2:37:50] was there. We were all doing --

[2:37:51] we were coordinating these

[2:37:54] different kinds of departments

[2:37:56] that sometimes were isolate

[2:37:57] expiemed of like silos and

[2:37:59] putting it all together. Not

[2:38:02] only, that we developed a bunch

[2:38:03] of pillars. One of those

[2:38:04] pillars is the release of

[2:38:07] inmates who observed their term,

[2:38:09] who we wanted to help them so

[2:38:12] they don't go back to a life of

[2:38:14] crime, we call that the re-entry

[2:38:16] center. This is kind of the

[2:38:20] culmination lasting really need

[2:38:23] to make that plan work. And if

[2:38:24] you look at our jail population,

[2:38:26] it's not nearly what it was. I

[2:38:28] think we're doing a great job

[2:38:29] reducing the amount of crime.

[2:38:32] So this is a place that's hard

[2:38:35] to find -- it's hard to find a

[2:38:36] place. It's done a great job

[2:38:39] with juveniles. So much so that

[2:38:41] this place MAY not be needed for

[2:38:42] that purpose anymore. Where is

[2:38:45] it? It's bounded by the flight

[2:38:45] control channel and freeways,

[2:38:48] and it's gated. It's not near

[2:38:50] any home or any type of threat.

[2:38:52] So what this is doing is

[2:38:55] reducing the possibility of

[2:38:57] crime into our county. And if

[2:38:59] we didn't have this kind of

[2:39:01] center, where would these people

[2:39:03] go? I dare say many of them

[2:39:05] would be on the streets of santa

[2:39:07] ana unsupervised. And this is

[2:39:09] not anything that's secret.

[2:39:11] It's been there a long time.

[2:39:13] We've had chiefs of police in

[2:39:14] santa ana serving on this board.

[2:39:17] I have a chief of a large city

[2:39:19] and one small as well on this

[2:39:20] board. And it's been a major

[2:39:24] effort to get to this point.

[2:39:25] And my view is I want to thank

[2:39:27] our ceo as part her legacy that

[2:39:30] we've come this far. She's done

[2:39:31] a tremendous job in helping this

[2:39:33] go forward. It's very important

[2:39:35] that this last component be

[2:39:38] completed. And I don't

[2:39:39] don't

[2:39:41] know where the right place would

[2:39:43] be, although, this has got more

[2:39:45] barriers around it than any

[2:39:46] other that I've seen. It's

[2:39:48] pretty unusual that you can find

[2:39:51] a place like that. Whenever it

[2:39:52] is, it's going to reduce crime

[2:39:54] in the area that it is situated

[2:39:56] in. So as the chair, which I

[2:39:58] have been for several years, the

[2:40:02] oc c jcc, as we call it, I know

[2:40:05] how important this is. I'm

[2:40:07] hoping we can launch it before I

[2:40:10] leave the board here. I don't

[2:40:16] see any more comments. And so

[2:40:17] with the suggestion change that

[2:40:20] we delete 4a on this department

[2:40:23] of conditions thing, and I think

[2:40:28] we've taken care of the dna

[2:40:30] staff I think it's otherwise

[2:40:31] appropriate to simply move the

[2:40:32] budget as been presented

[2:40:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[2:40:34] second

[2:40:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[2:40:36] right. County counsel a

[2:40:37] comment, as usual.

[2:40:40] >>leon page: I'm sorry,

[2:40:42] MR. CHAIRMAN. I apologize for

[2:40:44] doing this, but I would like to

[2:40:46] discuss specifically your

[2:40:50] proposal to delete from the

[2:40:51] retirement system assistance

[2:40:53] program policy that language in

[2:40:53] 4a

[2:40:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: need a

[2:40:55] separate motion

[2:40:57] >>leon page: no. I just want to

[2:40:58] highlight the legal concerns

[2:40:59] that I have. The purpose of

[2:41:01] this program is to encourage

[2:41:05] voluntary separations. In each

[2:41:06] department can fill every

[2:41:10] position that's vacated and then

[2:41:12] also pays $20,000 to the

[2:41:15] departing employee, without the

[2:41:17] language requiring that the

[2:41:19] positions remain vacant, this

[2:41:21] will backfire on you and you'll

[2:41:23] suddenly have $20,000 hits while

[2:41:24] also paying the salaries of the

[2:41:27] new employees that are hired.

[2:41:30] Now, I do believe that the ceo

[2:41:31] has the existing authority under

[2:41:34] county ordinance to freeze

[2:41:35] vacant positions. Now, the

[2:41:37] board does control the master

[2:41:38] position control, and it's

[2:41:40] through that document, through a

[2:41:42] instrument that the board

[2:41:42] controls the total number of

[2:41:46] positions. But my expectation

[2:41:48] is that if there are employees

[2:41:50] and departments taking advantage

[2:41:52] of this program, that the ceo

[2:41:54] will administratively freeze

[2:41:55] those positions, even if the ceo

[2:41:56] can't delete them because that's

[2:41:58] a board function. Those

[2:41:59] positions will be frozen. I

[2:42:02] think it's important that the

[2:42:03] board understand that, that

[2:42:06] there will still be impacts

[2:42:07] because if the board's intention

[2:42:09] is to fill every position that's

[2:42:10] vacated, then I would recommend

[2:42:13] you not adopt this policy

[2:42:13] because it will make your budget

[2:42:16] situation much worse. My second

[2:42:17] comment is the amount of the

[2:42:18] incentive is not actually

[2:42:19] mentioned in the policy that's

[2:42:22] before you today, and I am

[2:42:23] concerned that, providing the

[2:42:26] ceo with unbounded discretion as

[2:42:27] to the amount of the incentive,

[2:42:29] would be problematic. So I do

[2:42:33] believe in briefing the ceo has

[2:42:35] mentioned a $20,000 payment to

[2:42:41] the health reimbursement account

[2:42:43] account, health retirement

[2:42:45] account. So I would recommend

[2:42:46] that that amount be included and

[2:42:47] I want the board to be aware

[2:42:49] that the ceo does have the

[2:42:50] authority to freeze vacant

[2:42:52] positions and I expect positions

[2:42:53] vacated as a result of this

[2:42:57] program will be frozen. Thank

[2:43:01] you.

[2:43:02] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[2:43:02] vice-chair

[2:43:03] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[2:43:04] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I appreciate

[2:43:06] those comments. From my

[2:43:07] perspective, the freeze

[2:43:09] something one thing. The

[2:43:10] deleting of the positions is all

[2:43:11] together different, and we do

[2:43:12] have a hiring freeze right now,

[2:43:16] so nothing would change. The

[2:43:17] discretion of the ceo to work

[2:43:19] with the department head to

[2:43:20] determine whether or not that

[2:43:22] position is a necessary position

[2:43:24] needing to be filled would

[2:43:26] continue. But we won't lose the

[2:43:27] positions. We'll gain the

[2:43:28] salary savings because many of

[2:43:30] the individuals in the positions

[2:43:32] are at a much higher salary than

[2:43:36] the rest of the group who might

[2:43:37] take advantage of this. And

[2:43:38] then we also will, as I

[2:43:42] understand it -- we will have a

[2:43:43] savings as it relates to the

[2:43:48] pensions because many of these

[2:43:50] are individuals who are not

[2:43:54] subject to pepra. So the new

[2:43:55] pepra rules are less burdensome

[2:43:57] on the county contribution. So

[2:43:59] I do think that there will be

[2:44:01] savings. I think the hiring

[2:44:02] freeze, I would expect that that

[2:44:04] be continued until we say it's

[2:44:06] not. There's a policy question,

[2:44:08] not really a legal one. And as

[2:44:09] a policy matter, I sport

[2:44:13] deletion. I also am supportive

[2:44:16] of having the $20,000 add in. I

[2:44:18] do think that's important so

[2:44:19] that there's clear direction as

[2:44:21] to what we expect in terms of

[2:44:22] the incentive.

[2:44:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:44:25] you. Supervisor wagner.

[2:44:27] >>don wagner: I just wonder

[2:44:28] whether we're trying too hard.

[2:44:30] Maybe the solution is leave a in

[2:44:34] there but change that "shall" to

[2:44:39] "MAY." does that do it?

[2:44:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I

[2:44:42] think vice-chair pointed out, as

[2:44:43] long as there's a hiring freeze,

[2:44:45] it doesn't really matter.

[2:44:48] >>don wagner: understood. I

[2:44:52] know we're hearing from ocea

[2:44:54] about the challenges with the

[2:44:56] directive and some push-back,

[2:44:58] and I respect that. And we'll

[2:45:01] see if there is a way here to

[2:45:04] finesse that and make it "MAY."

[2:45:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: you want

[2:45:08] to have the ocea head come up

[2:45:12] and address that?

[2:45:14] >>don wagner: well, I guess the

[2:45:15] first thing would be whether

[2:45:18] that would be something that

[2:45:21] would work with the ceo or maybe

[2:45:24] we delete a all together and

[2:45:26] realize you have that inherent

[2:45:27] power counsel just told us

[2:45:29] about. I'm not sure what the

[2:45:31] easiest path is here

[2:45:33] >>michelle aguirre: if I might,

[2:45:33] supervisor...

[2:45:37] You know, deletion of 4a or

[2:45:40] changing the word "shall" to

[2:45:41] "MAY" be deleted with the

[2:45:44] additional language of "unless

[2:45:46] an exemption is authorized,"

[2:45:50] et cetera. So this is what I

[2:45:52] would say the ceo, right, budget

[2:45:54] and finance office staff do all

[2:45:56] day every day, working with

[2:45:57] departments. This isn't the

[2:45:59] first time that we've done this.

[2:45:59] My understanding is there's

[2:46:02] concern about, if we had -- the

[2:46:03] number was referenced earlier,

[2:46:05] 2000, based on the V.I.P.

[2:46:07] Program that we implemented

[2:46:10] during covid previously, you

[2:46:12] know. We don't anticipate

[2:46:14] having 2000. But we know that

[2:46:16] 2000 would be a significant hit.

[2:46:18] we know that depending on which

[2:46:20] positions are vacated, we

[2:46:22] can't -- let's say it's a

[2:46:22] department head, we're not just

[2:46:24] going to delete a department

[2:46:25] head position, right. There

[2:46:26] would just be a common sense

[2:46:28] approach to implementation and

[2:46:31] administration of this program.

[2:46:35] While it says "shall be

[2:46:35] deleted," we had also mentioned

[2:46:37] that section 6 of the policy

[2:46:39] does provide the ceo with the

[2:46:40] ability -- the flexibility and

[2:46:41] the implementation via the

[2:46:43] administration of the program.

[2:46:45] So while it says "shall," it

[2:46:46] wouldn't just be automatic as

[2:46:48] the program is being

[2:46:50] administered. So I have no

[2:46:53] problem with changing "shall" to

[2:46:55] "MAY" and then using the other

[2:46:56] language because that's how it

[2:46:57] would be implemented anyway

[2:46:59] >>don wagner: you don't need the

[2:47:01] other language if it's "MAY."

[2:47:02] >>michelle aguirre: correct.

[2:47:04] You could just put a period at

[2:47:05] the end

[2:47:09] >>don wagner: right.. And I do

[2:47:11] want to know what MR. Barfield

[2:47:14] has to say.

[2:47:17] >>speaker: so this is a

[2:47:19] mandatory subject of bargaining

[2:47:22] on impacts. Even if you adopt

[2:47:25] this today, you are obliged to

[2:47:28] meet and confirm with us, I.E.,

[2:47:30] on those impacts at a minimum.

[2:47:32] My fear, and I shared this to

[2:47:33] some of you, is that this would

[2:47:36] get turned into a public

[2:47:38] negotiation. So I gotta tell

[2:47:42] ya, I'm absolutely flabbergasted

[2:47:44] that we're having this

[2:47:45] conversation. And with county

[2:47:47] counsel opining on it from a

[2:47:52] legal standpoint, to me, it is a

[2:47:55] policy question. I appreciate

[2:47:56] leon pointing out that the

[2:48:00] dollar apt was not included --

[2:48:01] the dollar amount was not

[2:48:03] included. I noticed that too.

[2:48:04] But to have this discussion in

[2:48:08] public is incredible to me. I

[2:48:12] did answer your question,

[2:48:15] MR. Supervisor? I'm not going

[2:48:19] to answer that in public. It's

[2:48:21] up to this board to adopt some

[2:48:24] action, and then that will

[2:48:25] trigger the necessary meet and

[2:48:29] confer process. And I think

[2:48:31] earlier I made our position

[2:48:32] known. I'm not going to take a

[2:48:34] public position to say, oh,

[2:48:37] yeah, that will fix it. There's

[2:48:39] still a lot wrong with this.

[2:48:41] And if the board so chooses to

[2:48:43] include this item as a

[2:48:45] cost-saving measure as part of

[2:48:48] this budget, it will trigger the

[2:48:50] obligation to meet and confer

[2:48:53] with us, and I think I made our

[2:48:54] position pretty darn clear.

[2:48:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:48:58] you. I think by deleting it, we

[2:49:01] can come back and add something

[2:49:01] later if we need to. Because

[2:49:03] there's this dollar amount that

[2:49:06] we did not address, and I think

[2:49:08] meeting and conferring in

[2:49:11] advance would be wise here. So

[2:49:14] I'm going to stay with simply

[2:49:15] deleting it. We can work out

[2:49:16] language later. And right now

[2:49:18] it's kind of bogged down. So

[2:49:21] I'd like to adopt a budget. We

[2:49:23] got about 110 other items to

[2:49:25] look at before we're done today

[2:49:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[2:49:27] MR. CHAIRMAN, did you want to

[2:49:28] put the dollar amount in or no

[2:49:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I'm

[2:49:31] not quite sure how to word that

[2:49:34] one either. Supervisor nguyen,

[2:49:34] you have a comment?

[2:49:37] >>janet nguyen: I do. So I'm

[2:49:42] trying to understand all this.

[2:49:46] County counsel, so if item a is

[2:49:49] deleted, does that -- does the

[2:49:52] ceo still continue to have -- i

[2:49:55] mean, be able to freeze. So it

[2:49:58] doesn't stop her or him from

[2:50:01] freezing these positions going

[2:50:01] forward?

[2:50:02] >>leon page: that's right. And

[2:50:04] that's why I spoke. I wanted

[2:50:05] the board to be aware of the

[2:50:07] ceo's existing authority just so

[2:50:08] that everyone is on the same

[2:50:09] page and departments don't have

[2:50:11] expectations because the board

[2:50:12] deleted that language that they

[2:50:14] can now fill positions

[2:50:17] irregardless of the budgetary

[2:50:17] impacts.

[2:50:22] >>janet nguyen: and then can you

[2:50:26] address, if we move forward with

[2:50:31] this, if we delete, a, do we go

[2:50:32] then into meet and confer or

[2:50:34] does it have to be in this item

[2:50:38] to be going to meet and confer?

[2:50:40] >>leon page: I think the county

[2:50:42] will engage in good faith with

[2:50:44] all of the effected employee

[2:50:45] organizations regardless of

[2:50:47] whether the language of 4a is

[2:50:50] included or not. I mean, this

[2:50:53] could obviously have impacts on

[2:50:54] county employees. And it's

[2:50:55] those impacts that the county

[2:50:57] has to meet and confer with the

[2:50:59] organizations over.

[2:51:00] >>janet nguyen: last question,

[2:51:02] then, you can give us a language

[2:51:06] to include the $20,000? What

[2:51:10] that language would be? For us

[2:51:12] to consider?

[2:51:17] >>leon page: sure. The amount

[2:51:20] of the incentive contemplated

[2:51:24] herein shall be $20,000, up to

[2:51:26] $20,000 to the employees -- it

[2:51:28] shall be a contribution --

[2:51:29] employee contribution --

[2:51:29] >>janet nguyen: I'm sorry. So

[2:51:32] the ceo is nodding her head no.

[2:51:35] MADAM Ceo, not up to, just

[2:51:35] $20,000?

[2:51:37] >>michelle aguirre: yeah. I

[2:51:40] mean, if we are looking -- if

[2:51:45] you want it to be 20,000, just

[2:51:46] state 20,000. That was intent.

[2:51:48] If you want to provide

[2:51:49] flexibility, then it would be

[2:51:53] the up to.

[2:51:55] >>janet nguyen: what do you --

[2:51:57] >>michelle aguirre: what we were

[2:52:00] intending to move forward with

[2:52:04] was the $20 contribution to the

[2:52:06] hra. I am fine with that

[2:52:06] language

[2:52:07] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[2:52:08] MR. Chair, let's just add that

[2:52:10] to the motion, the $20,000

[2:52:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[2:52:13] right. Well, let's -- no. This

[2:52:14] is a little different. How do

[2:52:18] we word, that up to -- added to

[2:52:19] the hc account

[2:52:20] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: not

[2:52:24] up to. Will just $20,000ed to

[2:52:26] the incentive hra account. She

[2:52:29] says she wants it to just be

[2:52:36] $20,000, not an up to.

[2:52:38] >>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN, I

[2:52:41] suggested the "up to," but MADAM

[2:52:44] Ceo said she preferred just to

[2:52:45] stay directly at $20,000 so

[2:52:46] there's no confusion

[2:52:47] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: that

[2:52:48] way you reduce the haggling and

[2:52:49] all that

[2:52:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[2:52:52] right. County counsel, you can

[2:52:53] give us some language that

[2:52:54] combines what we're talking

[2:52:55] about here

[2:53:03] >>leon page: yes. The amount of

[2:53:05] the one-time contribution to the

[2:53:09] employees hra shall be $20,000.

[2:53:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: that's

[2:53:11] it

[2:53:12] >>leon page: and I put that in

[2:53:12] section 3

[2:53:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: and the

[2:53:17] deletion of 4a? Is that a

[2:53:19] separate item or do we combine

[2:53:19] these

[2:53:20] >>leon page: that would be -- I

[2:53:21] would put that language that I

[2:53:25] just spoke of in section 3 of

[2:53:30] the policy. And then 4a can be

[2:53:31] removed, if that's the direction

[2:53:33] of the board. And again, this

[2:53:35] all will be subject to meet and

[2:53:35] confer

[2:53:37] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. So

[2:53:40] that's the motion. Are there

[2:53:43] any objection as soon as I got

[2:53:45] it. All right. Now, did we

[2:53:46] move the whole budget with that,

[2:53:47] too? All right. We included

[2:53:50] that. All right. I think we're

[2:53:52] finished with that item. And it

[2:53:53] is now noon. What does the

[2:53:56] board want to do? To come back

[2:53:58] later, which we're going to have

[2:54:00] to anyway, or do you want to go

[2:54:01] to closed session? Closed

[2:54:03] session? All right. MADAM

[2:54:04] Clerk, would you read the

[2:54:35] closed-session items please?

[2:54:36] Cs1. County executive office-

[2:54:36] conference with labor negotiator

[2:54:37] -pursuant to

[2:54:38] government code section 54957.6:

[2:54:39] agency negotiator: jamie newton,

[2:54:40] chief human resources officer

[2:54:41] employee organizations:

[2:54:41] association of orange county

[2:54:42] deputy sheriffs (Aocds), orange

[2:54:43] county employees association

[2:54:44] (Ocea), orange county attorneys

[2:54:45] association (Ocaa),

[2:54:46] international union of operating

[2:54:46] engineers(Iuoe), association of

[2:54:47] county law enforcement

[2:54:48] managers (Aclem), american

[2:54:49] federation of state, county and

[2:54:50] municipal employees

[2:54:50] (Afscme), orange county managers

[2:54:51] association (Ocma), teamsters,

[2:54:52] and workers represented

[2:54:53] by united domestic workers of

[2:54:53] america (Udwa) And other

[2:54:54] non-represented employees

[2:54:58] re: terms and conditions of

[2:54:59] of employment

[2:54:59] scs2. County counsel-

[2:55:00] conference with legal counsel-

[2:55:02] anticipated litigation

[2:55:02] -

[2:55:02] significant exposure to

[2:55:03] litigation-pursuant to

[2:55:04] government code section

[2:55:09] 54956.9(D)(2):

[2:55:12] number of cases, multiple.

[2:55:13] Scs3. County counsel-

[2:55:13] conference with legal counsel --

[2:55:14] existing litigation-

[2:55:15] pursuant to government code

[2:55:16] section 54956.9(D)(1):

[2:55:16] name of case: G.C. V. County of

[2:55:17] orange, orange county superior

[2:55:20] court case no. 30-2022-

[2:55:29] 01274942-cu-po-cjc (Click for

[2:55:32] 01274942-cu-po-cjc (Click for

[2:55:32] scs4. County counsel-

[2:55:33] conference with legal counsel-

[2:55:34] existing litigation-

[2:55:35] pursuant to government code

[2:55:35] section 54956.9(D)(1):

[2:55:36] name of case: bryan vig v.

[2:55:37] County of orange et al., orange

[2:55:39] county superior court case no. 30-2025-01475686-cu-pa-cjc

[2:55:40] scs5. County counsel-

[2:55:41] conference with legal counsel-

[2:55:41] existing litigation-

[2:55:42] pursuant to government code

[2:55:43] section 54956.9(D)(1):

[2:55:44] name of case: california

[2:55:44] department of forestry and fire

[2:55:46] protection v. County of orange, orange

[2:55:48] county superior court case no. 30-2025-01508686-cu-mc-cxc

[2:55:50] and we have three speakers

[2:55:53] wishing to speak on the

[2:55:53] closed-session items

[2:55:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[2:55:56] right. First speaker in the

[2:55:59] closed-session item. 1 minute,

[2:56:02] please.

[2:56:03] >>speaker: good morning, folks.

[2:56:04] I know I only have a minute

[2:56:06] here. I'm the union

[2:56:08] representative for teamsters

[2:56:11] local 952, o and m unit. Good

[2:56:12] afternoon, board. We're asking

[2:56:15] again please give

[2:56:16] authorization -- we're getting

[2:56:17] creative now. I'm happy to see,

[2:56:20] that but get creative how to set

[2:56:21] our union negotiations. We've

[2:56:23] been told no at every corner

[2:56:25] although we have agreed on some

[2:56:26] articles, we're still so far

[2:56:27] apart. Thank you for the board

[2:56:29] members who have listened. We

[2:56:31] need support from the whole

[2:56:32] board on finding a way to

[2:56:33] authorize wage increases. Like

[2:56:35] I said last time, I'm open to

[2:56:36] meet with any and all board

[2:56:38] members and to avoid a labor

[2:56:39] dispute. We cannot burn time

[2:56:41] and go months and months past

[2:56:42] the end of our contract like the

[2:56:44] last cycle unless -- unless

[2:56:46] there's a retroactive pay in the

[2:56:48] talks. I'm not going to hold my

[2:56:50] breath on that. But let's get

[2:56:52] creative right. Thank you to

[2:56:54] this and let's settle our

[2:56:55] negotiations. You know, we want

[2:56:57] to keep servicing our county

[2:56:59] here, and again, we don't want

[2:57:00] to have a labor dispute. Let's

[2:57:02] get some wage increases on the

[2:57:04] table. Thank you.

[2:57:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:57:14] you, sir. Next speaker please.

[2:57:16] >>speaker: good morning. My

[2:57:18] name is fabian lopez and I'm

[2:57:19] currently serving as a fleet

[2:57:20] technician with the orange

[2:57:23] county public works. As a unit

[2:57:24] steward appointed to the

[2:57:25] negotiations committee, it's

[2:57:26] clear to me that all of you have

[2:57:28] lost touch with the reality of

[2:57:30] the times that we're living in.

[2:57:31] Throughout the 16 gork meetings

[2:57:33] that we've had, we've been met

[2:57:34] with nothing but offensive

[2:57:35] proposals and threats and

[2:57:36] resulting in very little

[2:57:38] progress. We're tired, we're

[2:57:40] tired of our hard-earned tack

[2:57:41] dollars going to the wrong

[2:57:42] places. I'm here today to

[2:57:44] remind that you we are all

[2:57:46] public servants, and the public

[2:57:48] deserve what is they pay for in

[2:57:49] taxes, a fair contract and wage

[2:57:51] proposal to all county employees

[2:57:52] would ensure public services

[2:57:54] would not be disrupted. Thank

[2:57:54] you.

[2:57:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[2:58:03] you.

[2:58:04] >>speaker: good afternoon,

[2:58:06] members of the board be my name

[2:58:08] is betty lopez. I worked for

[2:58:09] the county of orange for the

[2:58:11] last 18 years, and I have --

[2:58:12] this is my third time

[2:58:14] negotiating a contract with the

[2:58:16] county. I just want you guys to

[2:58:20] know that we work really hard.

[2:58:24] We -- we work hard, we're here

[2:58:25] every day. When the county shut

[2:58:26] down, we stayed for covid. We

[2:58:32] work every day. Every single

[2:58:35] day, the essential members that

[2:58:36] represent -- that we represent

[2:58:37] are doing the invisible heavy

[2:58:39] lifting for this county. When

[2:58:40] you visit our sites, we're the

[2:58:42] ones that take care of those

[2:58:44] animals. I work for the animal

[2:58:46] shelter. We take care of those

[2:58:48] animals. We get things ready

[2:58:49] for you guys to come in to take

[2:58:51] your pictures for your photo

[2:58:53] ops, and I just want you guys to

[2:58:55] know we see you, and I just

[2:58:56] really hope you see us when we

[2:59:02] come in asking for wages, it's

[2:59:03] not because we are asking for an

[2:59:06] allowance. We work really hard.

[2:59:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[2:59:06] you.

[2:59:08] >>clerk, robin stieler: no

[2:59:09] further speakers, MR. CHAIRMAN

[2:59:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: with

[2:59:12] that, we are adjourned to closed

[2:59:22] session.

[3:04:24] [Closed session]

[3:04:28] >>speaker: okay. We're back in

[3:04:29] session, county counsel, do you

[3:04:31] have anything to report

[3:04:35] >>leon page: pursuant to gofs.6

[3:04:37] and 9 the board met in closed

[3:04:38] session to discuss the items

[3:04:42] referenced on today's agenda

[3:04:45] scs1, 2, 3, 4, 5, with respect

[3:04:47] to csc1, the board took no

[3:04:48] reportable action. With respect

[3:04:51] to scs2 the board unanimously

[3:04:52] approved settlement of the

[3:04:54] various claims filed by members

[3:04:56] of the public for losses and

[3:04:59] damages incurred as a result of

[3:05:00] the SEPTEMBER 2024 airport fire.

[3:05:03] The board unanimously approved

[3:05:07] a $2 million settlement for the

[3:05:10] pagano, par ada -- households

[3:05:14] the board unanimously approved a

[3:05:16] 3.5 million global settlement

[3:05:18] for the gors key household the

[3:05:21] board unanimously approved a

[3:05:24] $1.5 million global settlement

[3:05:26] and for the morrison household,

[3:05:29] the board unanimously approved

[3:05:30] $2.5 million global settlement

[3:05:32] of the settlements approved

[3:05:34] today remains subject to any

[3:05:36] person who inquires. With

[3:05:39] respect to scs3 in the matter of

[3:05:42] 3g in the matter much gc versus

[3:05:45] county of orange. This case

[3:05:46] involved an alleged sexual abuse

[3:05:47] by the plaintiff by her foster

[3:05:49] parent and foster brother in the

[3:05:50] early 1980s. An alleged

[3:05:52] failure on the par the county

[3:05:53] the social services agency to

[3:05:54] investigate the plaintiff's

[3:05:57] complaints. That settlement is

[3:05:58] subject to the final approval of

[3:05:59] others and when that settlement

[3:06:01] agreement is finalized copies of

[3:06:01] the agreement will be made

[3:06:03] available through the office of

[3:06:04] ceo risk management to any

[3:06:06] person who inquires with respect

[3:06:09] to scs4, the matter of brian vig

[3:06:10] versus county of orange the

[3:06:12] board unanimously approved a

[3:06:17] settlement of 88, 992.51, in

[3:06:20] this 2024 motor vehicle accident

[3:06:22] case that resulted from a

[3:06:23] collision with an orange county

[3:06:24] sheriff's department vehicle in

[3:06:26] lake forest. The settlement

[3:06:26] approved today remains subject

[3:06:29] to the final approval of others

[3:06:29] and when that settlement

[3:06:32] agreement is finalized, copies

[3:06:33] of the agreement will be made to

[3:06:35] anyone who inquires. With

[3:06:37] respect to scs5, the board in

[3:06:38] the matter of california

[3:06:39] department of forestry versus

[3:06:42] county of orange, unanimously

[3:06:46] approved the $6,950,000

[3:06:48] mediator's proposal to settle

[3:06:52] and resolve the lawsuit filed by

[3:06:55] cal fire against the county to

[3:06:56] recover cost incurred fighting

[3:06:59] the SEPTEMBER 2024 airport fire.

[3:07:00] Copies will be made available

[3:07:01] to any person who inquires.

[3:07:03] With respect to the claims of

[3:07:08] alan lp bumpkins, angela bend

[3:07:12] zoo brown, degrade da, fontes,

[3:07:14] the inner circle foster family,

[3:07:19] james crest, lucas mark mia,

[3:07:22] mig, morris, mueller, page, no

[3:07:24] relation to me, ram mire reds,

[3:07:26] sure, silva, slate, thurston,

[3:07:29] valentine, vasquez, via,

[3:07:30] williams and willsie which was

[3:07:32] considered by the board on

[3:07:34] JUNE 9th 2026 as scs8 the

[3:07:36] board unanimously approved a

[3:07:38] global settlement in the amount

[3:07:48] of 7,752,596.45. The

[3:07:49] settlements all will remain

[3:07:50] subject to the final approval of

[3:07:54] others and when settlements are

[3:07:54] finalized copies of the

[3:07:55] agreement will be made available

[3:07:57] to any person who inquires.

[3:07:59] That's it, MR. CHAIRMAN. The

[3:08:01] board took no other reportable

[3:08:02] action in closed session today.

[3:08:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: that was

[3:08:04] quite a bit of reportable

[3:08:07] action. Thank you, county

[3:08:10] council. Is. We moved the

[3:08:15] budget item ahead. We come back

[3:08:29] toes item 35.

[3:08:30] >>clerk, robin stieler: 35.

[3:08:31] Supervisor sarmiento-consider

[3:08:31] first reading of "

[3:08:31] an ordinance

[3:08:32] of the county of orange,

[3:08:33] california, amending section

[3:08:33] 1-1-80, subsection (H) And

[3:08:34] adding section 1-1-81,

[3:08:35] subsections (E) Through (I) To

[3:08:36] the codified ordinances of the

[3:08:37] county of orange regarding

[3:08:38] lobbyist registration and

[3:08:38] reporting"

[3:08:39] ; and set second

[3:08:39] reading and adoption for

[3:08:42] 8/11/26, 9:30 A.M.

[3:08:44] We have no requests to speak on

[3:08:45] agenda item 35..

[3:08:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: do we

[3:08:49] have any -- we didn't have any

[3:08:49] commenters?

[3:08:50] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

[3:08:50] do not.

[3:08:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[3:08:53] right. This is a lobbyist

[3:08:57] recording type of proposal.

[3:08:58] Many other counties already have

[3:09:01] this, we do not. It kind of

[3:09:02] closes the gap in some weird

[3:09:04] ways. And I appreciate

[3:09:06] supervisor sarmiento joining in

[3:09:09] on this. I'm going to move the

[3:09:11] item. If there are comments --

[3:09:13] moved and second by supervisor

[3:09:17] sarmiento, comment from

[3:09:17] vice-chair foley.

[3:09:18] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[3:09:19] you. Thank you for bringing

[3:09:21] this item forward. I strongly

[3:09:22] support this item. I do think

[3:09:24] more disclosure to the public is

[3:09:25] important, and I think you know

[3:09:27] you're doing something right

[3:09:29] when shirley grendle sends you

[3:09:30] an email of support. So thank

[3:09:33] you for bringing this forward.

[3:09:34] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[3:09:34] supervisor sarmiento, any

[3:09:35] further comments

[3:09:36] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

[3:09:38] MR. Chair. I know, it's hard to

[3:09:40] get praise from shirley, but

[3:09:41] it's always nice when it comes

[3:09:43] in. Thank you, MR. Chair, and

[3:09:43] obviously this is something

[3:09:45] that's been worked on for the

[3:09:48] past couple of years. It's a

[3:09:50] subtle step but an important

[3:09:51] one. This extends and expands

[3:09:54] the rules to include discussions

[3:09:55] with department heads, though,

[3:09:58] it's basically just modifying

[3:10:00] the definition of advocacy and

[3:10:02] lobbying. So I just want to be

[3:10:03] clear, one of the things I want

[3:10:06] to make sure is on the record

[3:10:07] that this no way interferes with

[3:10:09] the rights of others that, you

[3:10:10] know, organizations that come

[3:10:12] before the board and educate

[3:10:13] officials or present their case

[3:10:18] on the issues. It provides more

[3:10:19] sunshine regarding efforts to

[3:10:20] influence by entities hired to

[3:10:22] lobby, not people just simply

[3:10:23] wanting to, you know, discuss

[3:10:26] issues that MAY affect their

[3:10:28] neighborhood, MAY affect

[3:10:29] their -- you know, local

[3:10:30] communities. But we want to

[3:10:32] make sure that that continues to

[3:10:35] be something that we encourage.

[3:10:36] I think to have more exchange

[3:10:38] with residents, more exchange

[3:10:42] with stakeholders is important.

[3:10:43] So, thank you, MR. Chair. I

[3:10:44] think this is an important step

[3:10:47] in the role of the ethics

[3:10:48] commission to provide additional

[3:10:49] review and guidance to the

[3:10:51] lobbying and advocacy community,

[3:10:53] and it strengthens the role of

[3:10:54] the commission as well. With

[3:10:55] that, happy to second it

[3:10:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[3:10:59] for joining. I would note one

[3:11:04] important change, lobbying not

[3:11:05] only of the members of the

[3:11:08] board, but you MAY engage in

[3:11:10] lobbying with, let's say, an

[3:11:11] example, department heads. That

[3:11:13] counts too. So reporting is

[3:11:15] another step in transparency for

[3:11:18] us. And it's a step in what I

[3:11:20] would call good government, as

[3:11:22] we're trying to do. Been moved

[3:11:25] and seconded. Any objection?

[3:11:26] Seeing none, it has been

[3:11:28] approved unanimously. Thank

[3:11:29] you, colleagues. Go on to item

[3:11:31] 34, please.

[3:11:35] >>clerk, robin stieler: 36.

[3:11:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm

[3:11:38] sorry. 36. Just did 34. All

[3:11:41] right, 35.

[3:11:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: 36.

[3:11:42] Under supervisor wagner-

[3:11:43] approve allocation of $240,000

[3:11:43] from the third district'

[3:11:44] s fy

[3:11:45] 25/26 office budget, budget

[3:11:46] control 008 to orange county

[3:11:46] sheriff'

[3:11:48] s department for

[3:11:51] purchase and installation

[3:11:52] of new body scanner at intake

[3:11:54] release center; make related

[3:11:55] findings under government code

[3:11:57] section 26227; and authorize

[3:11:58] auditor-controller or designee

[3:12:01] to make related payments

[3:12:03] we have no requests to speak on

[3:12:05] agenda item 36..

[3:12:05] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[3:12:07] supervisor wagner, this is your

[3:12:08] item

[3:12:08] >>don wagner: yes. Thank you

[3:12:11] very much, MR. CHAIRMAN. Real

[3:12:13] briefly, out of the office

[3:12:14] budget, not discretionary, this

[3:12:17] goes to the sheriff's department

[3:12:18] for the body scanner, the intake

[3:12:21] center, and we've all been

[3:12:23] seeing reports with respect to

[3:12:24] inmate deaths and how many of

[3:12:25] them are in the first few days

[3:12:27] of custody and drugs getting

[3:12:28] into the jails. This is a state

[3:12:36] of the art opportunity to give

[3:12:37] our shares an opportunity to

[3:12:39] interdict those drugs before

[3:12:41] they get into the population.

[3:12:42] So it's for the health and

[3:12:43] safety of the inmates. The

[3:12:45] health and safety of the

[3:12:47] deputies, and I appreciate the

[3:12:48] sheriff in working with me on

[3:12:50] this to make this one happen.

[3:12:51] If there are any questions, I'm

[3:12:53] happy to take them, otherwise, I

[3:12:54] move for approval.

[3:12:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[3:12:55] second

[3:12:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: I agree.

[3:12:59] Anyone object to this item?

[3:12:59] .

[3:13:00] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: great

[3:13:00] item.

[3:13:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: seeing

[3:13:03] none. Looks like it's niang

[3:13:05] muss. Thank you for bringing

[3:13:08] that forward. Item 37, please.

[3:13:09] >>clerk, robin stieler: 37.

[3:13:10] Under auditor-controller-

[3:13:10] acting as board of supervisors

[3:13:11] and orange county housing

[3:13:12] authority-adopt resolution

[3:13:13] authorizing temporary transfer

[3:13:13] of cash between various funds

[3:13:16] for fy 2026-27

[3:13:18] we have no requests to speak on

[3:13:20] agenda item 37

[3:13:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[3:13:23] all-district item. Moved and

[3:13:24] seconded. Any objection? Item

[3:13:32] is approved. 39, please. --

[3:13:35] 38, I'm sorry.

[3:13:35] >>clerk, robin stieler: 38.

[3:13:36] Under district attorney-

[3:13:37] approve model contract

[3:13:37] ma-026-26010077 for victim

[3:13:38] witness assistance program

[3:13:39] services, 7/1/26-6/30/29

[3:13:39] ($20,357,748); renewable for two

[3:13:40] additional one-year terms;

[3:13:40] select respondent from

[3:13:41] solicitation ranking results

[3:13:42] list; and authorize county

[3:13:42] procurement officer or deputized

[3:13:43] designee to negotiate and

[3:13:44] execute contract and make future

[3:13:44] amendments under certain conditions

[3:13:46] and we have no requests to

[3:13:47] speak.

[3:13:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[3:13:49] an all-district item.

[3:13:49] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[3:13:50] the item.

[3:13:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[3:13:51] seconded. Any objection?

[3:13:53] Seeing none --

[3:13:54] >>clerk, robin stieler:

[3:13:56] MR. Chair this requires a

[3:13:57] respondent is selected from the

[3:14:00] solicitation ranking results

[3:14:00] list.

[3:14:01] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I met

[3:14:03] to do that, move waymakers as

[3:14:04] the selected respondent..

[3:14:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[3:14:09] This new stuff kind of slows

[3:14:12] us -- gets us mixed up, and I'm

[3:14:13] mixed up anyway to start with.

[3:14:16] All right. So no objection,

[3:14:17] it's been moved and seconded.

[3:14:20] And we've chosen waymakers.

[3:14:22] Item is approved. Now we go to

[3:14:22] 39.

[3:14:23] >>clerk, robin stieler: 39.

[3:14:24] Under district attorney-

[3:14:25] approve contract ma-026-26011343

[3:14:25] with hewlett packard enterprise

[3:14:27] company for hewlett packard

[3:14:28] enterprise support service,

[3:14:29] 7/1/26-6/30/28 ($1,741,703);

[3:14:30] and authorize county procurement

[3:14:31] officer or deputized designee to

[3:14:33] execute contract

[3:14:35] we have no requests to speak on

[3:14:37] agenda item 39..

[3:14:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[3:14:40] all-district item..

[3:14:42] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[3:14:43] MR. CHAIRMAN, I'll move sc

[3:14:45] andersen group international as

[3:14:47] the primary and pdr solution as

[3:14:50] the alternate..

[3:14:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: been

[3:14:53] moved and seconded. Any

[3:14:56] objection? Go ahead, supervisor

[3:14:56] wagner?

[3:14:57] >>don wagner: unless I'm reading

[3:14:59] this wrong, you're on item 40.

[3:15:00] This is 39..

[3:15:02] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: oh,

[3:15:06] my bad. Sorry. You're right

[3:15:08] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[3:15:08] packard.

[3:15:10] >>don wagner: I'll move the

[3:15:10] item.

[3:15:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[3:15:12] disease. Okay.

[3:15:13] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[3:15:13] second.

[3:15:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[3:15:15] right, been moved and seconded.

[3:15:17] We've got the right vendor now?

[3:15:20] Okay. Any objection? Motion is

[3:15:22] approved. We go to item 40

[3:15:22] please.

[3:15:23] >>clerk, robin stieler: 40.

[3:15:24] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:15:25] model contract ma-060-26010737

[3:15:25] for mold remediation services

[3:15:26] 6/24/26-6/23/29 ($900,000);

[3:15:27] select and approve respondent

[3:15:27] and alternate respondent from

[3:15:28] solicitation ranking results

[3:15:29] list and authorize county

[3:15:29] procurement officer or deputized

[3:15:30] designee to negotiate and

[3:15:39] execute contract under certain conditions

[3:15:41] and we have no requests to speak

[3:15:42] on agenda item 40.

[3:15:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: now

[3:15:45] I'll move sc andersen group as

[3:15:48] the primary and pdr solutions as

[3:15:48] the alternate.

[3:15:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[3:15:51] an all-district item. Do we

[3:15:54] need to select a vendor here

[3:15:57] again? Yeah, we do. I have a

[3:15:57] motion.

[3:15:58] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[3:15:59] moved sc andersen group as the

[3:16:03] primary and pdr solutions as the

[3:16:03] alternate.

[3:16:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[3:16:04] right. Moved and seconded. Any

[3:16:06] objection? Seeing none, item is

[3:16:09] approved. We now go to 41.

[3:16:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: 41.

[3:16:10] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:16:11] amendment 10 to contract

[3:16:12] ma-060-18010732 with idemia

[3:16:13] identity & security usa llc for

[3:16:14] livescan/biometric capture

[3:16:15] stations, equipment,

[3:16:17] accessories, supplies,

[3:16:18] software and maintenance,

[3:16:19] 8/22/26-8/21/27 ($450,646;

[3:16:20] cumulative total $3,866,755);

[3:16:20] and authorize county procurement

[3:16:21] officer or deputized designee to

[3:16:25] execute amendment

[3:16:27] we have no requests to speak on

[3:16:29] agenda item 41..

[3:16:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's

[3:16:32] again an all-district item.

[3:16:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[3:16:33] the item.

[3:16:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: we need

[3:16:36] to pick a vendor here.

[3:16:37] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no

[3:16:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[3:16:40] It's been moved and seconded.

[3:16:42] Seeing no objection --

[3:16:43] >>clerk, robin stieler: MAY I

[3:16:45] clarify who's second on the

[3:16:46] motion.

[3:16:47] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[3:16:49] motioned, supervisor --

[3:16:51] >>janet nguyen: and I seconded

[3:16:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: thank

[3:16:52] you.

[3:16:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: now, if

[3:16:55] we considering I'd like to take

[3:17:02] items 42 through 57 as a group.

[3:17:04] I think the approval or

[3:17:05] consideration, say, by one

[3:17:07] motion, these are all policing

[3:17:09] contracts with the sheriff

[3:17:10] >>clerk, robin stieler:

[3:17:11] MR. CHAIRMAN, 48 is not one of

[3:17:13] the law enforcement items. 48

[3:17:15] is a five-year revenue agreement

[3:17:15] for continuing education

[3:17:17] classes. So it would be 42

[3:17:22] through 47 and 49 through 57.

[3:17:23] >>speaker: with that exception,

[3:17:25] let's go ahead with that

[3:17:28] grouping.

[3:17:29] >>clerk, robin stieler: 42.

[3:17:30] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:17:30] amendment 1 to contract with

[3:17:31] city of villa park for law

[3:17:34] enforcement services

[3:17:35] ($2,416,848) And special and

[3:17:36] supplemental services

[3:17:36] ($259,500), 7/1/26-6/30/27;

[3:17:37] and authorize sheriff-coroner or

[3:17:38] designee to execute amendments

[3:17:39] under certain conditions

[3:17:40] >>clerk, robin stieler: 43.

[3:17:40] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:17:41] contract with city of dana point

[3:17:42] for law enforcement services,

[3:17:42] 7/1/26-6/30/27 ($15,904,903);

[3:17:43] and authorize sheriff-coroner or

[3:17:44] designee to execute amendments

[3:17:45] under certain conditions-

[3:17:46] district 5

[3:17:46] >>clerk, robin stieler: 44.

[3:17:47] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:17:47] contract with city of laguna

[3:17:48] hills for law enforcement

[3:17:49] services, 7/1/26-6/30/27

[3:17:49] ($12,112,857); and authorize

[3:17:50] sheriff-coroner to execute

[3:17:51] amendments under certain conditions

[3:17:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: 45.

[3:17:52] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:17:53] amendment 1 to contract with

[3:17:54] city of san juan capistrano for

[3:17:54] law enforcement services, 7/1/26

[3:17:55] -6/30/27 ($14,310,630;

[3:17:55] cumulative total $48,169,382);

[3:17:56] and authorize sheriff-coroner or

[3:17:57] designee to execute amendments

[3:17:58] under certain conditions

[3:17:58] >>clerk, robin stieler: 46.

[3:18:00] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:18:05] contract with city of aliso

[3:18:07] viejo for law enforcement

[3:18:07] services, 7/1/26-6/30/27

[3:18:08] ($11,550,802); and authorize

[3:18:09] sheriff-coroner or designee to

[3:18:09] execute amendments under

[3:18:11] certain conditions

[3:18:12] >>clerk, robin stieler: 47.

[3:18:13] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:18:13] amendment 1 to contract with

[3:18:14] city of laguna niguel for law

[3:18:14] enforcement services, 7/1/26-

[3:18:15] 6/30/27 ($19,920,619); and

[3:18:16] authorize sheriff-coroner or

[3:18:16] designee to execute amendments

[3:18:18] under certain conditions-

[3:18:20] and we have no requests to speak

[3:18:21] on these items.

[3:18:24] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[3:18:25] move the items.

[3:18:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm

[3:18:27] seeing no objection. The items

[3:18:30] are approved. Now let's go to

[3:18:32] 48. District 5

[3:18:32] >>clerk, robin stieler: 48.

[3:18:33] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:18:34] five-year revenue agreement with

[3:18:34] rancho santiago community

[3:18:35] college district for continuing

[3:18:36] education classes for inmates,

[3:18:36] 7/1/26-6/30/31 ($984,375)-

[3:18:39] districts 2 and 3

[3:18:41] and we have no requests to speak

[3:18:42] on agenda item 48.

[3:18:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[3:18:46] district 2 and district 3 item.

[3:18:46] Moved and seconded. Any

[3:18:47] objection? Seeing none, the

[3:18:51] item is approved. Now we go to

[3:19:00] item 58.

[3:19:01] 58. Sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:19:02] amendment 1 to contract

[3:19:02] ma-060-23011224 with crh

[3:19:03] california water inc., dba

[3:19:03] culligan of santa ana for water

[3:19:04] softener services, 8/8/26-

[3:19:05] 8/7/27 ($430,800; cumulative

[3:19:05] total $1,723,200), renewable for

[3:19:06] one additional one-year term;

[3:19:07] and authorize county procurement

[3:19:07] officer or deputized designee to

[3:19:09] execute amendment

[3:19:11] >>speaker: a district 2 and 3

[3:19:13] item. Moved and second. Any

[3:19:15] objection? Item is approved.

[3:19:18] 59, please.

[3:19:18] >>clerk, robin stieler: 59.

[3:19:19] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:19:20] continuation of local emergency

[3:19:20] for 2026 garden grove hazardous

[3:19:21] material incident; and set

[3:19:22] review to determine continuing

[3:19:22] need for emergency action for

[3:19:23] 8/11/26, 9:30 A.M. And every 60

[3:19:29] days thereafter

[3:19:31] we have received one request to

[3:19:34] speak on agenda item 59.

[3:19:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: is an

[3:19:36] all-district item

[3:19:37] >>clerk, robin stieler: we

[3:19:39] received one request to speak on

[3:19:40] agenda item 59.

[3:19:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: please

[3:19:41] call that speaker

[3:19:44] >>clerk, robin stieler: john

[3:19:46] spring..

[3:19:48] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm not

[3:19:49] seeing -- is he here? Please

[3:19:50] come forward..

[3:19:52] >>chair, doug chaffee: I have a

[3:19:58] slight hearing impairment.

[3:19:58] MR. CHAIRMAN, members of the

[3:20:02] board, I'm john walton spring.

[3:20:05] I'm here first to honor my

[3:20:09] father carl chaffee spring,

[3:20:11] major U.S. Army chemical

[3:20:14] warfare. He was born in garden

[3:20:21] grove in 1899 and delivered by a

[3:20:24] DR. John d chaffee, who was a

[3:20:28] good friend of my grandfather

[3:20:30] reverend louis spring of the

[3:20:34] garden grove methodist episcopal

[3:20:35] church. My primary reason for

[3:20:44] being here is public safety.

[3:20:48] Methyl cry late -- meth cry late

[3:20:52] has a very similar molecular

[3:20:57] structure as saran, which is a

[3:20:58] nerve gas

[3:20:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[3:21:01] you, sir. Your time is up.

[3:21:03] >>speaker: and I guess I've run

[3:21:04] out of time.

[3:21:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: yes. You

[3:21:06] have. Thank you, sir. This is

[3:21:08] not on that topic. This is

[3:21:12] actually a continuation of the

[3:21:14] emergency moved and seconded.

[3:21:14] Any objection? Seeing none,

[3:21:18] item is approved. All right,

[3:21:20] item 60.

[3:21:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: 60.

[3:21:21] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:21:22] retroactive payment to rancho

[3:21:22] santiago community college

[3:21:23] district for

[3:21:24] tuition/registration fees for

[3:21:28] criminal justice classes ($420,801)

[3:21:30] We have no requests to speak on

[3:21:31] agenda item 60..

[3:21:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is a

[3:21:35] district 2 item. Moved and

[3:21:37] seconded. Supervisor foley,

[3:21:37] question.

[3:21:38] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

[3:21:44] Could I ask MR. Mccullough or

[3:22:04] MR. Maine to come up?

[3:22:09] >>speaker: good afternoon,

[3:22:10] brian, from the sheriff's

[3:22:11] department.

[3:22:11] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[3:22:13] know this is retroactive because

[3:22:15] of a delay by the community

[3:22:17] college invoice us. And so I

[3:22:19] guess my question is, this is 12

[3:22:22] to 18-month delay. Is there a

[3:22:24] way we can fix that so we don't

[3:22:26] have that delay in the future?

[3:22:29] Because we just voted on another

[3:22:30] contract, right?

[3:22:31] >>speaker: so it sounds like the

[3:22:34] college has kind of gotten their

[3:22:35] act together. It's our

[3:22:35] understanding that the staff

[3:22:37] they had in place was replaced

[3:22:38] back in the fall of last year,

[3:22:40] and the new staff member is kind

[3:22:41] of on board. Our folks have

[3:22:42] been working closely with them.

[3:22:46] We on our side, we're tracking

[3:22:47] it 100% accurately. We're

[3:22:49] trying to get them to bill us.

[3:22:50] They couldn't figure out a

[3:22:51] mechanism, the college

[3:22:53] administratively was kind of a

[3:22:54] mess. They've gotten that

[3:22:56] squared away, and it's our

[3:22:57] understanding that the new staff

[3:22:58] they have on board are kind of

[3:22:59] locked in, and we're working

[3:23:00] closely with them so this

[3:23:02] doesn't happen again.

[3:23:02] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[3:23:03] Appreciate that. Thank you

[3:23:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[3:23:06] right. I heard a motion. Did I

[3:23:07] get a second

[3:23:08] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes.

[3:23:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[3:23:10] seconded. Any objection? The

[3:23:13] item is approved. 61, please.

[3:23:13] >>clerk, robin stieler: 61.

[3:23:14] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[3:23:15] amendment 4 to contract

[3:23:15] ma-060-21011079 with pepperdine

[3:23:16] university for youth diversion

[3:23:17] counseling services, 7/1/26-

[3:23:17] 6/30/27 ($448,396; cumulative

[3:23:18] total $2,504,736); and authorize

[3:23:19] county procurement officer or

[3:23:19] deputized designee to execute

[3:23:22] amendment

[3:23:24] we have no requests to speak on

[3:23:25] agenda item 61.

[3:23:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[3:23:27] an all-district item.

[3:23:28] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[3:23:28] the item.

[3:23:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[3:23:30] seconded. Any objection?

[3:23:31] Seeing none, item is approved.

[3:23:34] 62, please.

[3:23:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: 62.

[3:23:35] County counsel-approve

[3:23:36] termination of local emergency

[3:23:37] for the airport fire.

[3:23:39] We have no requests to speak on

[3:23:41] agenda item 62..

[3:23:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[3:23:44] an all-district item..

[3:23:45] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[3:23:46] second.

[3:23:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[3:23:47] seconded. Seeing no objection,

[3:23:54] item is approved. 63. Call

[3:23:56] item 63, please.

[3:23:56] >>clerk, robin stieler: 63 under

[3:23:57] county executive office-

[3:23:58] approve amendment 2 to renew

[3:23:58] contract ma-017-24011100 with

[3:23:59] orange county's united way dba

[3:24:00] orange county united way for

[3:24:00] professional and technical

[3:24:01] support, and information and

[3:24:02] referral services, 7/1/26-

[3:24:03] 6/30/27 ($828,000; cumulative

[3:24:03] total $2,460,224); and authorize

[3:24:04] county procurement officer or

[3:24:05] deputized designee to execute

[3:24:09] amendment

[3:24:11] we have no requests to speak on

[3:24:12] agenda item 63.

[3:24:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[3:24:14] all-district item.

[3:24:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[3:24:17] the item.

[3:24:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[3:24:19] seconded. Any objection?

[3:24:22] Seeing none, item is approved.

[3:24:24] 64, please.

[3:24:24] >>clerk, robin stieler: 64.

[3:24:25] Under county executive office-

[3:24:26] approve amendment 1 to contract

[3:24:27] ma-017-25010195 with hub for

[3:24:27] integration, reentry and

[3:24:29] employment for workforce reentry

[3:24:29] services, term ending 9/12/27

[3:24:30] ($250,000; cumulative total

[3:24:31] $2,150,000); renewable for two

[3:24:32] additional one-year terms; and

[3:24:32] authorize county procurement

[3:24:33] officer or deputized designee to

[3:24:35] execute amendment

[3:24:36] and we have received four

[3:24:38] requests to speak on agenda item

[3:24:38] 64.

[3:24:39] >>chair, doug chaffee: please

[3:24:41] call the speakers

[3:24:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: mayor

[3:24:45] pro tem david penelosa, paula ga

[3:24:48] elevator, a cassandra perez and

[3:24:51] andrew linares.

[3:24:52] >>vincente sarmiento: MR. Chair,

[3:24:54] I think those comments were

[3:24:55] mistakenly given because they

[3:24:57] wanted to speak on the budget

[3:24:58] item but then we got

[3:25:01] clarification that it was on a

[3:25:01] different item.

[3:25:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: so none

[3:25:03] of them are be present. All

[3:25:05] right, then this is a district 2

[3:25:06] item

[3:25:07] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll move

[3:25:07] the item.

[3:25:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[3:25:09] seconded. Any objection?

[3:25:11] Seeing none, item is approved.

[3:25:13] Let's go to 65.

[3:25:14] >>clerk, robin stieler: 65.

[3:25:15] Under county executive office-

[3:25:16] approve amended and restated

[3:25:17] license agreement with james

[3:25:18] productions, inc., for operation

[3:25:20] of public fishing concession and

[3:25:20] development of public

[3:25:21] recreational activities at

[3:25:22] irvine lake, 7/1/26-6/30/31;

[3:25:23] renewable for one-year

[3:25:24] extensions under certain

[3:25:25] conditions; authorize chief real

[3:25:25] estate officer or designee to

[3:25:26] approve extensions, amendments

[3:25:27] and execute license agreement

[3:25:29] under certain conditions; and

[3:25:30] make california environmental

[3:25:31] quality act (Ceqa) Exemption

[3:25:33] findings under ceqa guidelines

[3:25:37] section 15301

[3:25:40] this item does require a 4/5ths

[3:25:41] vote of the members present. We

[3:25:44] have no requests to speak on

[3:25:44] agenda item 65.

[3:25:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is a

[3:25:47] district 3 item.

[3:25:48] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[3:25:48] second.

[3:25:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[3:25:50] seconded. Any objection? It's

[3:25:53] unanimous, a 4/5ths vote

[3:25:54] requirement is achieved. Let's

[3:25:56] get to 66, please.

[3:25:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: 66.

[3:25:57] Under county executive office-

[3:25:58] approve contract ma-017-26011314

[3:25:59] with institute for urban

[3:26:00] initiatives for continuum of

[3:26:01] care program technical

[3:26:01] assistance and consulting

[3:26:02] services, 7/1/26-6/30/29

[3:26:03] ($225,000); and authorize county

[3:26:04] procurement officer or deputized

[3:26:04] designee to execute

[3:26:07] contract

[3:26:10] . We have no requests to speak

[3:26:11] on agenda item 66.

[3:26:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: 66 is an

[3:26:13] all-district item.

[3:26:14] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[3:26:16] the item..

[3:26:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: any

[3:26:19] objection? Seeing none, item is

[3:26:20] approved. 67, please.

[3:26:20] >>clerk, robin stieler: 67.

[3:26:21] Under county executive office-

[3:26:22] approve agreement for transfer

[3:26:22] of real property and quitclaim

[3:26:23] deed for transfer of a portion

[3:26:24] of plaza of the fountains to

[3:26:25] city of santa ana; authorize

[3:26:25] chief real estate officer or

[3:26:26] designee to execute agreement,

[3:26:27] quitclaim deed, easement deed

[3:26:28] and related documents

[3:26:30] and take related actions under

[3:26:31] certain conditions; and make

[3:26:32] california environmental quality

[3:26:33] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

[3:26:35] under ceqa guidelines section

[3:26:43] 15305 and other related findings

[3:26:45] this item does require a 4/5ths

[3:26:46] vote of the members present. We

[3:26:47] have no requests to speak on

[3:26:49] agenda item 67.

[3:26:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[3:26:50] district 2 item

[3:26:51] >>vincente sarmiento: move the

[3:26:51] item.

[3:26:53] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[3:26:53] second.

[3:26:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: any

[3:26:55] objection? Seeing none, item is

[3:26:57] approved. 68, please.

[3:26:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: 68.

[3:26:59] Under county executive office-

[3:26:59] approve memorandum of

[3:27:00] understanding (Mou) With

[3:27:01] superior court of california,

[3:27:01] county of orange for provision

[3:27:02] of services, 7/1/26-6/30/27;

[3:27:03] authorize county executive

[3:27:04] officer or designee to execute

[3:27:05] mou; and authorize county

[3:27:05] procurement officer or

[3:27:06] deputized designee to adjust

[3:27:08] annual contract amount under

[3:27:13] certain conditions

[3:27:14] and we have received one

[3:27:17] requests to speak on agenda item

[3:27:20] 68..

[3:27:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: there's

[3:27:23] one speaker? Please call the

[3:27:24] speaker

[3:27:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: deborah

[3:27:27] donothan.

[3:27:29] >>speaker: hello, I'm deborah

[3:27:31] donothan commenting on item 68,

[3:27:33] the county executive office

[3:27:34] memorandum of understanding with

[3:27:36] the orange county superior

[3:27:39] court. When the county enters

[3:27:40] service agreements with the

[3:27:42] court, the public needs

[3:27:43] transparency about what services

[3:27:45] are being provided, what fund

[3:27:46] something involved and whether

[3:27:49] those services intercept with

[3:27:51] probate, mental health court,

[3:27:53] care court, conservatorship,

[3:27:55] disability services or

[3:27:56] behavioral health placements.

[3:27:58] I'm asking the forward about

[3:28:02] require public reporting ada and

[3:28:05] olmsted safeguards, a clear

[3:28:06] separation between county

[3:28:08] behavioral health funding and

[3:28:10] court processes that MAY result

[3:28:12] in loss of liberty, family

[3:28:14] separation or restrictive

[3:28:14] placement. Thank you.

[3:28:15] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[3:28:15] you.

[3:28:18] >>clerk, robin stieler: no

[3:28:20] further speakers, MR. Chair

[3:28:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[3:28:22] right, item 68 an all-district

[3:28:23] item.

[3:28:24] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[3:28:25] the item

[3:28:26] >>vincente sarmiento: second.

[3:28:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: any

[3:28:28] objection? Seeing none, item is

[3:28:30] approved. 69, please.

[3:28:31] >>clerk, robin stieler: 69.

[3:28:32] Under county executive office-

[3:28:32] approve retroactive amendment 3

[3:28:33] to renew contract ma-017-

[3:28:34] 25011394 with carahsoft

[3:28:35] technology corp for email

[3:28:36] subscription management services

[3:28:38] (Govdelivery), 5/1/26-4/30/27

[3:28:39] ($188,024; cumulative total

[3:28:40] $340,115); and authorize county

[3:28:41] procurement officer or deputized

[3:28:44] designee to execute amendment

[3:28:45] we have no requests to speak on

[3:28:46] agenda item 69.

[3:28:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[3:28:51] all-district item. Moved and

[3:28:52] seconded. Seeing no objection,

[3:28:54] the item is approved. 70,

[3:28:54] please.

[3:28:55] >>clerk, robin stieler: 70.

[3:28:56] Under county executive office-

[3:28:57] approve grant

[3:28:57] applications/awards submitted by

[3:28:58] county executive office, health

[3:28:59] care agency, oc community

[3:29:00] resources, oc waste & recycling

[3:29:01] and sheriff-coroner, ratified

[3:29:02] grant applications/awards

[3:29:03] submitted by county executive

[3:29:04] office, health care agency and

[3:29:05] john wayne airport and

[3:29:07] retroactive grant

[3:29:08] applications/awards submitted by

[3:29:09] oc public works and

[3:29:10] sheriff-coroner in 6/23/26 grant

[3:29:19] report and other actions as recommended

[3:29:21] and we have no requests to speak

[3:29:23] on agenda item 70..

[3:29:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[3:29:27] an all-district item and our

[3:29:28] grant report.

[3:29:29] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[3:29:31] the item chafed no objection,

[3:29:33] item is approved. 71, please.

[3:29:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: 71.

[3:29:34] Under county executive office-

[3:29:35] approve recommended positions on

[3:29:36] introduced or amended

[3:29:36] legislation and/or consider

[3:29:40] other legislative subject matters

[3:29:42] we have no requests to speak on

[3:29:42] agenda item 71

[3:29:43] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[3:29:47] all-district item. Supervisor

[3:29:47] sarmiento?

[3:29:48] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

[3:29:51] you, MR. Chair. I did want to

[3:29:52] draw attention to something that

[3:29:55] I know this board has been made

[3:29:56] aware of as of late last week,

[3:29:58] even though it was at the 11th

[3:30:03] hour. We had a bill, ab2194

[3:30:07] that was authored by

[3:30:07] assemblymember valencia and was

[3:30:10] carrying a bill for us, which

[3:30:11] was really sort of a simple

[3:30:13] bill. I guess the general

[3:30:14] intent was to stagger terms of

[3:30:17] the appointees to the cal optima

[3:30:18] board of directors. I want to

[3:30:20] thank you, MR. Chair, because I

[3:30:23] know that the author basically

[3:30:27] revised the bill extensively,

[3:30:28] and it is a much different bill

[3:30:30] than what was first proposed by

[3:30:33] this board and supported by this

[3:30:36] board. So it is in essence to

[3:30:38] remove the county supervisors

[3:30:40] from serving on the board of

[3:30:42] directors at cal optima but also

[3:30:43] creating an appointment body

[3:30:47] made up of an assembly member,

[3:30:48] senator, and a member of

[3:30:50] congress that represent medi-cal

[3:30:53] members here in the county. So

[3:30:56] I know that one of the first

[3:30:58] things that you did when we

[3:31:00] received that revisions and that

[3:31:02] new bill was way letter in

[3:31:04] opposition. So I thank you,

[3:31:06] MR. Chair, for doing that

[3:31:07] quickly. You were on the board,

[3:31:09] and you've been served on the

[3:31:11] board of cal optima and you know

[3:31:13] that we have been trying to do

[3:31:15] very good things there under

[3:31:16] some difficult circumstances.

[3:31:18] So, you know, the county's

[3:31:19] operated under a county

[3:31:22] organized health system model

[3:31:23] that's allowed for, you know,

[3:31:25] local leaders, community

[3:31:27] stakeholders, providers, and

[3:31:29] public representatives to have

[3:31:31] meaningful voice in the

[3:31:34] oversight of a multibillion

[3:31:35] dollar organization responsible

[3:31:37] for delivering health care to

[3:31:38] our residents here, especially

[3:31:40] our seniors, those who are

[3:31:43] disabled and low income. So

[3:31:45] today, you know, caloptima is

[3:31:46] arguably one of the strongest

[3:31:48] and most stable it's been. It's

[3:31:50] been under some pressure in the

[3:31:52] past I know our former

[3:31:54] colleague, who is now serving

[3:31:56] five years in federal prison for

[3:31:58] corruption, was the chair. So I

[3:32:00] know the board did a very good

[3:32:03] job of trying to audit a lot of

[3:32:04] the contracts he was involved in

[3:32:06] when he was there serving on the

[3:32:09] board. We've also done

[3:32:12] investigations into issues that

[3:32:15] were concerning and -- to the

[3:32:16] public. But we've also done

[3:32:18] incredible work in making sure

[3:32:20] that there's more transparency

[3:32:21] and better governance there. So

[3:32:24] I do think that it's a much

[3:32:26] better performing board of

[3:32:28] directors and health plan, and I

[3:32:29] think it's something that we can

[3:32:31] all be proud of, which is why we

[3:32:33] were kind of surprised to see a

[3:32:35] very extensively revised bill

[3:32:38] from what was agreed upon here

[3:32:41] at county. And I know there was

[3:32:43] some discussion at the board of

[3:32:45] directors at caloptima about an

[3:32:47] leapt of the original bill,

[3:32:50] which had to do with providing

[3:32:52] closed session information to

[3:32:54] the alternate. There was

[3:32:56] healthy debate. The board

[3:32:58] majority chose to not support

[3:33:01] that part of the bill. But when

[3:33:02] it came back to the county,

[3:33:05] there was no change. So the

[3:33:07] bill stood as it was originally

[3:33:10] drafted, and it included that,

[3:33:14] despite the decision and the

[3:33:15] direction at the caloptima board

[3:33:17] of directors. So I know that,

[3:33:19] you know, tomorrow this bill

[3:33:21] will be heard. This revised

[3:33:22] bill will be heard at the senate

[3:33:25] health committee. And it is

[3:33:27] moving very fast. It is a bill

[3:33:30] that was introduced at 11th

[3:33:31] hour, a very, very different

[3:33:33] version of what this board had

[3:33:34] agreed to support. So one of

[3:33:38] the other elements of this is

[3:33:39] that, you know, what causes

[3:33:41] heightened concern is that

[3:33:43] orange county would become the

[3:33:46] only one of the 34 counties

[3:33:48] served by california's organized

[3:33:51] health system without directly

[3:33:52] elected county board of

[3:33:54] supervisors on its governing

[3:33:57] board. That really makes us an

[3:33:58] outlier and wouldn't have that

[3:34:00] accountability that many of us

[3:34:01] believe is important to have

[3:34:04] elected officials on there.

[3:34:05] There's only two supervisors

[3:34:08] that serve on a nine-person

[3:34:11] board. So we certainly have a

[3:34:14] role, I think, to be responsive

[3:34:15] to the members and to the

[3:34:18] taxpayers here that stand that

[3:34:20] public health plan up. But the

[3:34:23] appointed members have a very

[3:34:26] robust role. I know that for

[3:34:30] the past year, we had the --

[3:34:34] appointed member isabel becerra

[3:34:35] serve as our chair for a year

[3:34:36] and a half. I know the

[3:34:38] vice-chair is a family member.

[3:34:40] She represents a seat on that

[3:34:40] board that, you know, has a

[3:34:43] family member who is a medi-cal

[3:34:44] and caloptima member. We tried

[3:34:47] do as much as we could to make

[3:34:48] sure that appointees on that

[3:34:50] board have no more or no less

[3:34:52] authority than the supervisors.

[3:34:53] Nonetheless, I think supervisors

[3:34:58] have a critical role as all the

[3:35:00] cosystems in the state have

[3:35:02] agreed, that there should be a

[3:35:03] blend of both appointed members

[3:35:06] and elected members. So this

[3:35:09] was a surprise, I know, to

[3:35:11] supervisor nguyen and I, who are

[3:35:12] the supervisors who are

[3:35:14] presently serving on that board

[3:35:16] of directors. And I know that

[3:35:21] we plan to go up to sacramento

[3:35:23] tomorrow just to make sure that

[3:35:24] the committee understands the

[3:35:27] dynamic of what we've been

[3:35:29] trying to do. I think our roles

[3:35:30] as watchdogs on that board as

[3:35:33] well has been well documented.

[3:35:34] I know that a lot of the work

[3:35:36] that has been done has been, you

[3:35:38] know -- just making sure that

[3:35:40] services and programs for our

[3:35:42] caloptima members continue to be

[3:35:46] funded and supported. Just

[3:35:49] recently, we adopted a $430

[3:35:52] million rig provider -- rate

[3:35:53] provider increase to make sure

[3:35:55] that our medi-cal members and

[3:35:57] caloptima members continue to

[3:35:59] receive support from the

[3:35:59] physicians, from the hospitals

[3:36:01] and everybody else in our

[3:36:03] network. And I learned, and

[3:36:05] something that we learned was we

[3:36:08] were the only health plan in the

[3:36:09] entire state, county health plan

[3:36:11] to do that. So that was

[3:36:13] something that was important for

[3:36:14] us to do because we want to

[3:36:16] support our providers so they

[3:36:18] can support our member

[3:36:20] recipients. But I do -- I would

[3:36:22] ask this board to change its

[3:36:24] position from its original

[3:36:27] support position of the original

[3:36:30] draft of ab2194 to an opposed

[3:36:32] position because it's a much

[3:36:34] different bill than what was

[3:36:38] introduced originally. I know

[3:36:39] that our local advocates that

[3:36:43] are on our -- you know, on our

[3:36:45] sacramento side precision have

[3:36:47] been working feverishly to make

[3:36:48] sure that they're able to tell

[3:36:50] our story. We have 10

[3:36:51] opposition letters from some

[3:36:55] very, very strong advocates in

[3:36:57] the -- or stakeholders in the

[3:36:58] health care industry. Both are

[3:37:01] local and state hospital

[3:37:02] association have written

[3:37:04] letters, in addition to many

[3:37:05] others. And I think there is

[3:37:06] some clarity. I think the only

[3:37:08] letters so far that we've seen

[3:37:11] in support was from ocea but we

[3:37:12] were assured that they were

[3:37:14] going to withdraw that and

[3:37:18] submit an oppose letter because

[3:37:19] that -- that letter that they

[3:37:20] originally sent was in support

[3:37:22] of the original draft the bill.

[3:37:25] So there is an urgency to this.

[3:37:28] I believe that supervisors have

[3:37:29] an incredibly critical role.

[3:37:30] This county has stood this plan

[3:37:32] up and has had a seat on that

[3:37:34] table to make sure that there's

[3:37:37] balance, there's accountability,

[3:37:38] and responsiveness to the public

[3:37:40] and to the members that they

[3:37:42] serve. So I would ask that this

[3:37:45] board revise its position from

[3:37:47] support of the original draft of

[3:37:48] the bill to oppose. We

[3:37:49] certainly are grateful to the

[3:37:51] author for carrying the original

[3:37:54] bill. I want to make sure he

[3:37:55] hears publically from me that

[3:37:57] I'd like him to work with us if

[3:37:58] there are any rescissions he'd

[3:38:01] like to make. But these are

[3:38:02] drastic disproportionate changes

[3:38:05] to a bill that was simply meant

[3:38:06] to staring terms of the

[3:38:09] appointed members. So to the

[3:38:11] extent that we can work on

[3:38:15] better governance, more

[3:38:17] partnership between our federal

[3:38:20] and state electeds and

[3:38:22] delegation members here, we're

[3:38:23] certainly open to that. I'm

[3:38:25] certainly open to that as the

[3:38:27] chair of caloptima. And I

[3:38:28] know -- I'm sure this board

[3:38:30] doesn't see any problem with

[3:38:32] working with our federal and

[3:38:34] state partners and making sure

[3:38:36] we improve our work there at the

[3:38:41] public health plan. So that is

[3:38:42] my -- those are my comments,

[3:38:44] MR. Chair. The only other thing

[3:38:47] I would add is that we have

[3:38:48] precision working very hard for

[3:38:50] us. This is kind of a tricky

[3:38:53] moment because those of our --

[3:38:57] my colleagues, supervisor wagner

[3:38:59] and nguyen, who have been in the

[3:39:00] legislature, know that getting

[3:39:01] out of the committee is

[3:39:03] critically important. If it

[3:39:04] doesn't get out of committee,

[3:39:04] the bill doesn't go anywhere.

[3:39:06] But if it does get out of

[3:39:07] committee and goes to the floor,

[3:39:10] then it gets trickier. So to

[3:39:11] the extent that also an appetite

[3:39:14] to maybe engage, you know, an

[3:39:16] outside advocacy firm that will

[3:39:18] help on the senate side, I think

[3:39:20] that's something that we should

[3:39:20] consider.

[3:39:23] I know precision has been doing

[3:39:24] a lot. They have a lot in -- on

[3:39:26] their plate. But just something

[3:39:28] for us to consider because this

[3:39:33] is a very, very, again, you

[3:39:34] know, change in direction for

[3:39:39] what this board's role is on

[3:39:40] caloptima is. I'll leave it at

[3:39:43] that and hand the mike back to

[3:39:43] you.

[3:39:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[3:39:47] for your explanation.

[3:39:48] supervisor nguyen

[3:39:49] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[3:39:50] MR. CHAIRMAN. Yeah. This was a

[3:39:53] big surprise. It was a gut and

[3:39:55] amend bill. I have had the

[3:39:56] opportunity to talk with to the

[3:39:59] assembly man, and I appreciate

[3:40:01] the conversation. I was able to

[3:40:02] spend some time with him and

[3:40:05] went through the changes of

[3:40:07] caloptima since actually I was

[3:40:09] the one who originally started

[3:40:11] the change in caloptima.

[3:40:13] Originally caloptima only had

[3:40:15] one board of supervisors. And,

[3:40:17] you know, my first original

[3:40:18] change was to include two county

[3:40:21] supervisors because it is a 4.5

[3:40:23] billion budget. I believe it

[3:40:26] should warrant a minimum two

[3:40:28] county supervisors' attention,

[3:40:30] and it is also -- oversees

[3:40:31] almost a million individuals on

[3:40:34] medi-cal of our 3.2 million

[3:40:36] residents. So I believe that

[3:40:38] having two county supervisors on

[3:40:40] the board with an alternate

[3:40:42] gives the attention caloptima

[3:40:45] needs and gives also the -- you

[3:40:47] know, the concerns of the

[3:40:48] residents who are on med came.

[3:40:51] My district currently is the

[3:40:54] second largest med came

[3:40:55] recipients in orange county. My

[3:40:57] original district that included

[3:41:01] santa ana was the number 1.

[3:41:03] Supervisor sarmiento has the

[3:41:06] highest number. And we separate

[3:41:08] about 100,000 residents apart

[3:41:11] between the first and second.

[3:41:12] So I went through and explained

[3:41:14] all that to him. And, you know,

[3:41:16] what I do appreciate is that I

[3:41:20] think we -- us and the assembly

[3:41:21] man, we do share the same goal

[3:41:23] of ensuring strong oversight,

[3:41:25] accountability and transparency

[3:41:27] while trying to prevent the type

[3:41:29] of corruption and manage

[3:41:31] management that occurred under

[3:41:33] the previous supervisor. And so

[3:41:35] I ask him whether the

[3:41:37] restructuring the governance

[3:41:39] model now through his new gut

[3:41:40] and amend bill, that I believe

[3:41:45] we can work together to strain

[3:41:47] caloptima's oversight, implement

[3:41:48] meaningful reforms, protect

[3:41:50] taxpayers, members and the

[3:41:52] public trust as well. So I know

[3:41:53] a lot of things have been

[3:41:55] happening since the weekend. I

[3:41:57] reached out to the member of the

[3:41:58] senate health committee as well

[3:42:04] as I formerly have -- majority

[3:42:06] my time up there, I served as

[3:42:07] vice-chair of senate health. So

[3:42:08] I'm very familiar, and it is

[3:42:10] going to be a long day tomorrow.

[3:42:11] It is the last day of that

[3:42:12] committee hearing. And it will

[3:42:14] also be my first time going back

[3:42:15] to sacramento since I came back

[3:42:18] here to the -- since I came back

[3:42:20] here to the county, so I'm

[3:42:21] actually excited to see some of

[3:42:23] my former colleagues as well.

[3:42:26] But to add to that, one is to

[3:42:29] clarify ocea did send a letter,

[3:42:31] resending their original support

[3:42:33] as of late last night. And so

[3:42:35] they do not -- so there is

[3:42:37] currently no support for this

[3:42:39] bill at all. So every

[3:42:42] stakeholder in orange county,

[3:42:43] bipartisan has actually stepped

[3:42:46] up and is in opposition of the

[3:42:50] bill. And on top of that, I do

[3:42:53] agree with supervisor sarmiento,

[3:42:54] that, you know, if there's an

[3:42:57] opportunity, I think the board

[3:43:01] should and could engage in

[3:43:03] additional advocacy of working

[3:43:04] alongside precision to continue

[3:43:07] to work the bill if it does pass

[3:43:08] the senate health committee.

[3:43:13] There's been a lot of direction

[3:43:18] from the caucus, from the health

[3:43:20] senate caucus recommendation,

[3:43:23] and so it's ongoing. And so I'm

[3:43:26] hopeful that there would be some

[3:43:28] resolution to -- for us to work

[3:43:32] with the assembly man going

[3:43:33] forward for any opportunity. If

[3:43:34] he sees something that we

[3:43:36] don't -- that we haven't seen,

[3:43:39] let's work together because in

[3:43:40] our conversation it's -- you

[3:43:41] know, it's been a very good

[3:43:43] conversation. And so I'm hoping

[3:43:45] that we can partner with him.

[3:43:47] And so with that, MR. CHAIRMAN,

[3:43:49] I would like to make a motion

[3:43:53] that we oppose the current gut

[3:43:55] and amend bill and also allow

[3:43:59] the chair and/or the ceo, if

[3:44:04] sees fit, to add in -- to hire

[3:44:06] on new additional -- not new,

[3:44:08] additional advocacy if this

[3:44:10] moves forward out of the senate

[3:44:11] health committee tomorrow. So

[3:44:12] that would be my motion,

[3:44:13] MR. CHAIRMAN.

[3:44:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[3:44:16] you. And it's moved and

[3:44:18] seconded. Vice-chair..

[3:44:19] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[3:44:20] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. And thank

[3:44:23] you to my colleagues for

[3:44:26] sharing. I had a chance to meet

[3:44:28] with assemblymember valencia

[3:44:30] when I was in sacramento last

[3:44:34] week. I was there to testify on

[3:44:37] our county sponsored nitrous

[3:44:39] oxide ban bill, and that did get

[3:44:40] out of committee. 19-0. Happy

[3:44:42] to hear. But we did have a

[3:44:43] chance because this landed that

[3:44:48] same day. So I had a chance to

[3:44:50] talk with the assembly man.

[3:44:52] And, you know, I'm not going to

[3:44:54] get involved in relitigating

[3:44:56] every issue that relates to

[3:44:57] caloptima and what happened and

[3:44:58] didn't happen and what kind of

[3:45:00] triggered this for him as it

[3:45:02] relates to some of the decisions

[3:45:04] by the caloptima board, but what

[3:45:08] I did hear him say, and I am

[3:45:10] concerned about, is that his

[3:45:12] office reached out several times

[3:45:16] to us to ask about clarification

[3:45:18] because there was conflicting

[3:45:20] information of position coming

[3:45:22] out of the caloptima board and

[3:45:24] the county board. And -- where

[3:45:27] we have two board members 60 on

[3:45:28] the caloptima board and yet we

[3:45:30] had two different positions.

[3:45:35] And so they reached out, and

[3:45:37] nobody responded. And so I

[3:45:41] think that that also caused a

[3:45:44] concern, and I think that we

[3:45:46] need to, you know, as a

[3:45:49] procedural matter, if there's a

[3:45:51] board office sponsoring a bill,

[3:45:53] then maybe they should be the

[3:45:54] point person to respond. Or if

[3:45:55] they're not available to

[3:45:57] respond, then the CHAIRMAN

[3:45:58] Should respond. But someone

[3:46:01] needs to respond. My bigger

[3:46:06] worry with this is that we

[3:46:08] have -- now, this is a couple of

[3:46:09] pieces of legislation over the

[3:46:12] last couple of years that are

[3:46:14] directed over at county of

[3:46:15] orange board of supervisors.

[3:46:16] And it really sends the wrong

[3:46:18] message to the state legislature

[3:46:23] about the work we're doing here,

[3:46:26] about whether or not legislators

[3:46:27] should carry a bill for us, and

[3:46:29] wonder if our position might

[3:46:31] shift at a later time. So I

[3:46:33] hope that doesn't happen. I

[3:46:34] hope these issues can get

[3:46:37] resolved. There are some

[3:46:39] elements to the gut and amend

[3:46:41] revised bill that I do think are

[3:46:44] valued. And I so I would ask

[3:46:46] that you take a position of

[3:46:50] oppose unless amended. I do

[3:46:52] think that it is important to

[3:46:55] have the health care director

[3:46:57] and the social services agency's

[3:46:59] director as voting members on

[3:47:01] the board. I think that they

[3:47:03] are integral to the operations

[3:47:07] of how do we serve the community

[3:47:08] being served. And so I actually

[3:47:15] do agree with that. I think

[3:47:17] that -- what the assembly man

[3:47:20] told me is that he was removing

[3:47:21] the three elected officials that

[3:47:22] he had proposed for the

[3:47:23] selection committee. And just

[3:47:24] to be clear, he wasn't proposing

[3:47:26] the three elected officials to

[3:47:28] sit on the actual caloptima

[3:47:30] board. They were just being

[3:47:32] proposed on a selection

[3:47:33] committee to select the board

[3:47:36] members for the caloptima board,

[3:47:38] which he has shared with me that

[3:47:40] he is removing them. I don't

[3:47:43] know if that's happened yet, and

[3:47:46] so I also shared with him that

[3:47:48] the selection committee didn't

[3:47:49] have a procedure on how to

[3:47:51] select people. So that, if it

[3:47:54] goes forward, would have to get

[3:47:56] corrected. So my concern that

[3:48:02] there is support for this bill

[3:48:08] and I would like us to see an

[3:48:12] oppose, unless amended, another

[3:48:13] amendment that would of course

[3:48:14] support adding our two county

[3:48:16] board members back on the

[3:48:17] caloptima board. I do think

[3:48:19] there's value having the board

[3:48:21] member there is. I think if

[3:48:23] this selection committee is

[3:48:25] created, then that might solve a

[3:48:29] concern that he has about undue

[3:48:30] influence by the board and

[3:48:31] selecting all the board members

[3:48:36] for caloptima. So I support my

[3:48:41] colleagues in trying to advocate

[3:48:44] to maintain the board as is or

[3:48:46] to at least get some changes

[3:48:49] into this bill to benefit the

[3:48:50] county and to maintain two

[3:48:53] positions on that board. But I

[3:48:55] worry that if we just take an

[3:49:00] opposition position, that we are

[3:49:03] not going to be successful. So

[3:49:05] I'd like to request the maker of

[3:49:07] the notion change your motion to

[3:49:10] oppose unless amended..

[3:49:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[3:49:13] for that. At this point, I must

[3:49:14] comment. As soon as we found

[3:49:17] out theres a need for

[3:49:18] clarification coming from the

[3:49:21] assembly man, that very day, we

[3:49:24] prepare adler to transmit. It

[3:49:25] was ready the next day. There

[3:49:27] was no delay in responding to

[3:49:28] him at all from the time he made

[3:49:33] his request. Before we could

[3:49:34] transmit letter, we learned he

[3:49:37] changed the bill. So it's

[3:49:38] totally false that we didn't get

[3:49:40] back to him on time. We tried

[3:49:43] to immediately. He had this

[3:49:45] premeditated ahead of time. You

[3:49:48] can't make that dramatic a

[3:49:51] change overnight. It was very

[3:49:52] detailed change. Curiously win

[3:49:55] read this amended version, it

[3:49:58] would put him on a selection

[3:50:00] committee. He's running for the

[3:50:02] state senate and that's one of

[3:50:03] the offices he had selected in

[3:50:06] that bill. So I do not agree to

[3:50:13] that position of amended with --

[3:50:15] -- posed unless amended. It's a

[3:50:17] horrible bill. It just needs to

[3:50:19] be killed moving forward.

[3:50:21] Original idea, which we

[3:50:24] promoted, was a bill we were

[3:50:25] sponsoring, was simply to

[3:50:26] stagger the terms of the

[3:50:28] caloptima board so you have some

[3:50:32] fep from year to year and get

[3:50:33] better continuity and the other

[3:50:38] was kind of an odd issue where

[3:50:40] the interpretation is are you an

[3:50:41] at facility that -- we do have

[3:50:42] an alternate -- that you

[3:50:46] couldn't have any closed session

[3:50:47] material in advance unless you

[3:50:50] suddenly became the person

[3:50:52] involved. I'm that alternate.

[3:50:54] I don't really have any interest

[3:50:55] in that. But it made it

[3:50:58] difficult to be prepared if you

[3:51:02] weren't going to be involved in

[3:51:04] that, as a good government that

[3:51:06] allows people to be prepared.

[3:51:07] It's the only board I know of

[3:51:09] that doesn't allow alternates to

[3:51:10] have the closed session

[3:51:12] materials so they can be

[3:51:14] prepared to respond. With that,

[3:51:14] supervisor nguyen

[3:51:15] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[3:51:17] MR. CHAIRMAN. I want to kind of

[3:51:18] just respond to some of the

[3:51:19] comments that were just made

[3:51:20] from my colleagues. I did reach

[3:51:25] out to the assembly man after I

[3:51:27] was -- when it was mentioned

[3:51:30] that the county did not respond.

[3:51:33] I want to hands with that was

[3:51:34] so I could share with my

[3:51:35] colleagues. The assembly man

[3:51:38] did reach out to the county on

[3:51:40] MAY 22nd. And that is

[3:51:42] actually the second day of the

[3:51:44] garden grove incident. As you

[3:51:49] know, my office, your offices

[3:51:51] were all -- and the county was

[3:51:54] hands on deck in garden grove.

[3:51:57] And so there was confusion, and

[3:52:00] I think in our office, also, we

[3:52:02] assumed that since I voted

[3:52:04] against the recommendation from

[3:52:06] caloptima, I was actually the

[3:52:07] one no vote because I do agree

[3:52:09] that the alternate should have

[3:52:10] that information. They should

[3:52:12] have the information as they're

[3:52:13] heading into closed session and

[3:52:16] dis% they -- they shouldn't get

[3:52:18] it before. And that was kind of

[3:52:20] my explanation at caloptima.

[3:52:23] But regardless, you know, that

[3:52:24] was during the time when the

[3:52:26] county was -- wasn't able to

[3:52:29] respond. And I did personally

[3:52:31] apologize to the assembly man if

[3:52:32] there was a lack of -- but I

[3:52:34] don't think there was a --

[3:52:36] definitely, there was no

[3:52:37] intention of a sign of any

[3:52:39] disrespect or lack of interest

[3:52:40] from the county. So I've shared

[3:52:43] that with him. I do know that

[3:52:45] we -- the county-led staff did

[3:52:48] reach out on JUNE 2nd to his

[3:52:49] chief of staff, obviously from

[3:52:51] 22nd to JUNE 2nd is quite a

[3:52:52] difference in number of days,

[3:52:53] but we did have the incident.

[3:52:55] And I also mentioned to the

[3:52:57] assembly man, I do appreciate

[3:52:58] him because during the incident

[3:52:59] he actually reached out to me,

[3:53:01] offering if he could be of any

[3:53:03] help, offering that anaheim has

[3:53:05] hotels that they're -- you know,

[3:53:07] he's talked to the hotels that

[3:53:09] they're opening up to try to

[3:53:10] help garden grove residents and

[3:53:13] not just garden grove, but any

[3:53:15] residents in the area, as well.

[3:53:16] So I think that's a lack of

[3:53:20] miscommunication and lack of --

[3:53:21] basically, lack of communication

[3:53:24] between the two sides. And so I

[3:53:26] did personally apologize to

[3:53:26] that.

[3:53:30] In regards to the aca and ssa,

[3:53:32] the reason why I originally did

[3:53:36] not want to include hca and ssa

[3:53:39] as voting members is to show

[3:53:42] that that would add more votes

[3:53:44] to the county. I wanted to show

[3:53:45] that there isn't that bias from

[3:53:47] the county's side. So if you

[3:53:49] add hca and ssa as voting

[3:53:52] members, that would add two

[3:53:53] sprofers supervises. That's

[3:53:55] four voting members that could

[3:53:56] potentially be considered, you

[3:53:58] know, to some folks a self

[3:54:00] interest from the county's side.

[3:54:03] And so when I did the original

[3:54:05] change back in -- almost 15

[3:54:09] years ago, it was not to -- yes.

[3:54:11] The importance of hca being

[3:54:12] there at the table is extremely

[3:54:18] important and she's very

[3:54:19] valuable -- he or she, is very

[3:54:21] valuable for that dispoj that

[3:54:24] information. Because we do do

[3:54:25] the behavioral health of the

[3:54:28] county. And in working with

[3:54:30] caloptima and also the

[3:54:31] eligibility worker vice-versa.

[3:54:35] So I stand by not wanting hca or

[3:54:38] ssa to be a voting member. And

[3:54:41] so I don't -- I would not be --

[3:54:44] withdraw my -- revising my

[3:54:47] motion. And second with the

[3:54:51] selection committee, you know I

[3:54:52] think it's still problem make

[3:54:54] the, even removing those

[3:54:56] senators, the assemblymember and

[3:54:58] congressional members. I did

[3:55:00] share with the assembly man why

[3:55:02] that part itself is problematic

[3:55:04] because they -- all due respect

[3:55:09] to those members -- haven't been

[3:55:11] one. They don't see the daily

[3:55:13] operations that we see here in

[3:55:15] health care. And they're in

[3:55:17] sacramento or D.C., so

[3:55:18] ultimately it might be their

[3:55:20] staff that come to be on that

[3:55:21] slashing committee. So I

[3:55:23] understood that, and he did

[3:55:25] mention he would look at me

[3:55:27] moving that part of it. I said

[3:55:29] the rest of it is also

[3:55:31] problematic because you have now

[3:55:32] selection committee members who

[3:55:34] would be appointing themselves.

[3:55:35] You've got representatives from

[3:55:36] the hospital, from thing you

[3:55:37] know, all of the other

[3:55:38] representatives. They're

[3:55:39] actually the ones we're

[3:55:41] selecting to be on that

[3:55:43] committee, on that board. And

[3:55:45] so now they're self-selecting

[3:55:46] themselves. And I don't think

[3:55:50] that should be it. Think the

[3:55:51] current system, the which it's

[3:55:53] working, not perfect, but I

[3:55:54] think my intention originally is

[3:55:57] to make it fair and balanced.

[3:56:00] To making sure that the members

[3:56:01] of caloptima whose actually in

[3:56:04] the system is there, as well.

[3:56:06] My original intent was that that

[3:56:09] individual get a stipend, get

[3:56:12] transportation stipend. Get a

[3:56:14] daily stipend to show up and be

[3:56:16] at these meetings because it is

[3:56:18] difficult for them in terms of

[3:56:20] financially. So that was all

[3:56:23] the original intent. I think

[3:56:26] that keeping at board of

[3:56:26] supervisors, there is a

[3:56:29] processed, and, you know, I it

[3:56:32] has been working? Is it

[3:56:33] perfect? Absolutely not. None

[3:56:36] of the systems are. We'll

[3:56:38] always look at it and look to

[3:56:39] consider amendments. At this

[3:56:40] moment right now in time is that

[3:56:42] the bill and the recommendation

[3:56:45] even at the caucus itself right

[3:56:50] now is no, is not support bill

[3:56:52] for the democratic caucus and

[3:56:53] also the republican caucus.

[3:56:55] There's a lot of moving parts

[3:56:57] right now. And I think, you

[3:57:00] know, tomorrow be a long day

[3:57:02] because he is the 14th member

[3:57:05] on that -- author for tomorrow's

[3:57:06] agenda. And it's file order

[3:57:09] only. And so we wouldn't know

[3:57:11] when the bill's gonna be heard

[3:57:13] and what the negotiation from

[3:57:14] now into tomorrow as well. So

[3:57:17] it's a moving target, and I

[3:57:19] just -- I'm just hopeful that he

[3:57:21] would just that I believe and

[3:57:23] make it maybe a two-year bill or

[3:57:25] can start over with us and work

[3:57:26] on something.

[3:57:27] But I cannot

[3:57:30] support right now, you know,

[3:57:34] hca, and then add on ssa as well

[3:57:35] unless we have that longer

[3:57:36] discussion, because I don't want

[3:57:41] to make these, you know -- these

[3:57:42] decisions last minute, just no

[3:57:45] different than I'm not a big fan

[3:57:50] when I was in the legislature.

[3:57:52] We don't like the bills that

[3:57:55] don't pass at all. It's unfair.

[3:57:56] But I think we're in a good

[3:57:58] position. Assembly image, we're

[3:58:01] willing to work with you, if

[3:58:04] there's a lot we could do

[3:58:06] together in reform, but let's

[3:58:08] move forward and have those

[3:58:09] conversations

[3:58:09] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[3:58:10] supervisor sarmiento?

[3:58:11] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

[3:58:13] you, chair. I won't repeat a

[3:58:15] lot of what was said but I think

[3:58:17] anytime something is done sort

[3:58:21] of at the 11th hour, the

[3:58:24] legislative cycle is kinding up,

[3:58:27] and for there could be a

[3:58:30] complete remediation and

[3:58:31] deviation and departure from

[3:58:33] what was originally agreed to,

[3:58:36] it becomes a partner because you

[3:58:43] then can't vet with these

[3:58:47] questions in coming up. The

[3:58:52] supervisor was referencing --

[3:58:54] the toxic problem with a

[3:58:57] chemical facility here in garden

[3:59:00] grove, gkn, that weekend, had

[3:59:02] all of us a little bit on our

[3:59:03] heels. I know when we spoke

[3:59:05] with peter and his team, they

[3:59:08] tried to, I believe, message as

[3:59:11] quickly as they could. We have

[3:59:12] certainly do better. There's no

[3:59:15] doubt about it. I just feel

[3:59:20] that this is a different

[3:59:21] proportional responsive to that.

[3:59:22] There was a delay getting back

[3:59:25] to the author to completely

[3:59:26] undermine the way the board of

[3:59:28] supervisors is configured and

[3:59:31] selected to remove the

[3:59:34] supervisors from this bad from

[3:59:38] serving on there and something

[3:59:38] accountable and working with

[3:59:40] their employees is very that is

[3:59:44] a very drastic departure. I

[3:59:45] know DR. Kelley serves with us

[3:59:50] on that board representing hca.

[3:59:53] She is always a resource for

[3:59:54] everyone on the board. And

[3:59:57] because we're supervisors, we

[3:59:57] oversee the entire incident

[3:59:59] great thing you know, health

[4:00:03] care number here in county. It

[4:00:04] certainly does really help to

[4:00:06] have her on there. So I

[4:00:09] certainly appreciate her role.

[4:00:15] Du I do ble that CHAIRMAN And --

[4:00:19] that doing an oppose unless

[4:00:20] amended I think really won't get

[4:00:25] us there. I think that -- the

[4:00:28] point is this is a very

[4:00:29] difficult bill now to try to

[4:00:30] work on. I don't think an

[4:00:33] amended version of this bill

[4:00:34] will get the author back on

[4:00:36] board. I just think that there

[4:00:39] has to be some support for

[4:00:40] saying let's work on something

[4:00:43] with a clean slate. Let's come

[4:00:45] back and completey open to

[4:00:48] sitting down and working withing

[4:00:50] author and his staff to go

[4:00:52] through this. And if you has

[4:01:00] the votes, to get it there.

[4:01:01] Will get through in any event.

[4:01:03] I'm hoping that'll be reasonable

[4:01:05] and realize that there is

[4:01:08] nothing egregious or nefarious

[4:01:10] to trigger this sort of drastic

[4:01:13] change in a bill that was very,

[4:01:15] very benign, and it was simply

[4:01:18] meant to -- to introduce better

[4:01:19] governance to staring those

[4:01:21] seats on there. And the only

[4:01:23] reason there was some discussion

[4:01:25] and a difference of opinion on

[4:01:27] having alternates have access to

[4:01:29] closed session information was

[4:01:32] the general counsel at caloptima

[4:01:37] said that accessing information

[4:01:39] information -- and with wasn't

[4:01:41] just going to be when somebody

[4:01:44] was coming in but information on

[4:01:46] alternates all the time. It

[4:01:47] could breach the privilege that

[4:01:49] we know is protected by closed

[4:01:50] session. So that was the simple

[4:01:54] debate on that. But I think,

[4:01:56] again, we could, you know,

[4:01:57] deliberate and talk about, you

[4:01:59] know, us being quicker on the

[4:02:01] response to the author and

[4:02:02] responding and engaging, and I

[4:02:04] think we certainly can do

[4:02:05] better, that's why we have a

[4:02:07] legislative team. But at this

[4:02:11] point, I think that we need to

[4:02:12] hold fast. I don't want the

[4:02:15] county to be singled out as an

[4:02:17] outlier being the only health

[4:02:20] plan in the state that doesn't

[4:02:22] have county representatives

[4:02:23] serving on there and being

[4:02:25] accountable to the public. That

[4:02:28] to me would be a more

[4:02:30] disappointing conclusion of all

[4:02:33] this because, again, I think

[4:02:36] what was said, it's now the

[4:02:38] second time that the county has

[4:02:38] singled out in all of the

[4:02:42] counties for things that I don't

[4:02:45] believe are warranted. There's

[4:02:46] nothing that warrants this

[4:02:55] change at caloptima for the

[4:02:57] previous departure from where it

[4:03:00] was originally done. In any

[4:03:00] event, MR. Chair, I think you

[4:03:02] have a motion and a second on

[4:03:03] the floor.

[4:03:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: oh, yes.

[4:03:05] Okay, supervisor foley, you've

[4:03:08] already spoken, so pleads be

[4:03:08] quick.

[4:03:08] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[4:03:10] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. Thank you,

[4:03:11] supervisor nguyen. I appreciate

[4:03:15] the insight, and I guess I would

[4:03:17] just appeal one more time to

[4:03:20] this idea of a -- what I'm going

[4:03:22] to consider an olive branch to

[4:03:25] the assembly man by saying it

[4:03:26] doesn't have to be specific

[4:03:28] things in the bill, but maybe

[4:03:30] just the opening of the opposed

[4:03:32] unless amended. Because to your

[4:03:35] point, let's work on it, make it

[4:03:37] a two-year bill and make is

[4:03:39] something that we can all

[4:03:40] collaborate on. I just don't

[4:03:42] know how successful we will

[4:03:45] being if we just take this

[4:03:51] aggress excessive -- aggressive

[4:03:53] opposed position given what

[4:03:55] happened the last time we did

[4:03:56] that with the assembly man. So

[4:03:59] my concern is that if we're not

[4:04:00] showing some effort to

[4:04:02] understand what his concerns

[4:04:04] with and we're just taking an

[4:04:06] aggression, opposition position,

[4:04:07] we might be putting ourselves in

[4:04:09] a negative bargaining position.

[4:04:16] So that's the only reason -- and

[4:04:18] I can guarantee you they're

[4:04:20] watching our meeting right now.

[4:04:20] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[4:04:21] supervisor nguyen

[4:04:22] >>janet nguyen: and I agree.

[4:04:26] They are. I was -- I'd do the

[4:04:28] same. I think there's a

[4:04:29] difference between the last bill

[4:04:35] and this one. And so full

[4:04:36] disclosure, I supported the last

[4:04:38] bill in the senate. I voted for

[4:04:40] it. The difference is that

[4:04:41] there was something that

[4:04:44] triggered the last bill. It's

[4:04:45] unfortunate, but there was

[4:04:46] something and it was a

[4:04:48] corruption scandal by a city's

[4:04:50] supervisor. That's what

[4:04:53] triggered. This bill, you have

[4:04:57] no trigger. Two supervisors who

[4:05:00] have been at forefront in trying

[4:05:03] to ask the questions at

[4:05:04] caloptima. Everything I say

[4:05:07] here the assembly man has heard.

[4:05:13] And so I don't think that this

[4:05:16] warrant us in doing a, you know,

[4:05:20] opposed and yet it's amended to

[4:05:26] go back to the original bill.

[4:05:29] So again, I oppose this bill and

[4:05:33] also move that -- the CHAIRMAN

[4:05:37] And/or the ceo can authorize any

[4:05:39] additional advocacy efforts if

[4:05:43] need to if bill moves forward.

[4:05:45] And so, you know, I think

[4:05:46] there's a lot of moving parts,

[4:05:51] and I think -- I'm hopeful

[4:05:53] because I've worked with the

[4:05:55] assembly men or other things in

[4:05:57] the past and reminded him of

[4:05:59] that as well. So with that, I

[4:06:01] continue with my motion,

[4:06:04] mr. CHAIRMAN. I also do,

[4:06:05] MR. CHAIRMAN -- I do have a

[4:06:06] comment I would like to make on

[4:06:08] the other bill. I can make that

[4:06:11] comment, too? Or should we do

[4:06:13] this one first and then dot

[4:06:13] other.

[4:06:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[4:06:15] right. We have a motion on this

[4:06:18] bill. I'm not sure we have a

[4:06:25] unanimous board. MADAM Clerk...

[4:06:32] [Calling roll]

[4:06:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[4:06:34] support the effort because I

[4:06:36] want to be supportive of my

[4:06:37] colleagues, but I do hope that

[4:06:40] we go in in a collaborative

[4:06:41] spirited. Thank you.

[4:06:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:06:44] you. We do have a unanimous

[4:06:48] vote. So thank you supervisors

[4:06:49] nguyen and sarmiento for your

[4:06:52] efforts on this. So now you

[4:06:54] mentioned -- this isn't

[4:06:55] complete. This is just one

[4:06:58] bill. So you're right,

[4:07:00] supervisor nguyen, if you'd like

[4:07:01] to comment on another bill

[4:07:03] >>janet nguyen: ab760 is a

[4:07:04] similar bill, actually a

[4:07:07] duplicate of a bill that I

[4:07:09] authored when I was in the

[4:07:13] senate and the senate work diane

[4:07:14] exhibitionxon coaught twhord me.

[4:07:18] It was after the huntington

[4:07:20] beach oil still in 2021. At

[4:07:23] that time we identify that the

[4:07:26] victims who be passed on --

[4:07:29] making them be taxed on

[4:07:30] settlement payments. So our

[4:07:32] bill was to make sure that

[4:07:34] anybody who received individuals

[4:07:37] and business who received

[4:07:39] settlement by -- because of the

[4:07:40] oil spill, will not be taxed.

[4:07:47] And because ab760 is a depict of

[4:07:48] that, and the reason is is that

[4:07:52] the independent in garden grow.

[4:07:57] Hazmat incidents they will not

[4:08:01] be taxed

[4:08:04] ed the settlement that

[4:08:11] is an income and this memory.

[4:08:12] This bill would make sure that

[4:08:14] the funds that they received and

[4:08:18] the settlement would not be

[4:08:21] considered as a -- as an income

[4:08:23] to be tasked by the state. So

[4:08:26] with that, I move the bill

[4:08:27] >>chair, doug chaffee: any

[4:08:28] objection? I think we're done

[4:08:30] now. Anything else on this

[4:08:32] item? All right, the item moves

[4:08:39] on. We have voted. Now we come

[4:08:41] to 72, which is the airport.

[4:08:46] And we have 72 through 76 that

[4:08:47] are airport matters. If there

[4:08:50] are no objections, I'd like to

[4:08:52] take them as a group. MADAM

[4:08:54] Clerk, would you go forward with

[4:08:56] item 72 through 76.

[4:08:56] >>clerk, robin stieler: 72.

[4:08:57] Under john wayne airport-

[4:08:57] approve contract ma-280-26011379

[4:08:58] with bridgenet international,

[4:08:59] inc. Dba bridgenet international

[4:08:59] for airport noise monitoring

[4:09:00] system services, 9/1/26-

[4:09:01] 8/31/31 ($1,858,003), authorize

[4:09:01] county procurement officer or

[4:09:02] deputized designee to execute

[4:09:02] contract; and make california

[4:09:03] environmental quality act (Ceqa)

[4:09:04] Exemption findings under ceqa

[4:09:11] guidelines section 15301

[4:09:12] >>clerk, robin stieler: 73.

[4:09:13] Under john wayne airport-

[4:09:14] approve contract ma-280-26011292

[4:09:14] with transcore, lp for hardware

[4:09:15] and software maintenance

[4:09:16] services, 9/1/26-8/31/31

[4:09:17] ($494,390); authorize county

[4:09:18] procurement officer or deputized

[4:09:19] designee to execute contract;

[4:09:19] and make california

[4:09:20] environmental quality

[4:09:21] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

[4:09:25] under ceqa guidelines section 15301.

[4:09:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: 74.

[4:09:27] Under john wayne airport-

[4:09:28] approve model aggregate contract

[4:09:28] ma-280-26011036 for airport

[4:09:29] materials testing and inspection

[4:09:29] services, 7/23/26-7/22/29

[4:09:30] ($6,000,000); select and approve

[4:09:31] respondents from solicitation

[4:09:31] ranking results list; and

[4:09:32] authorize county procurement

[4:09:33] officer or deputized designee to

[4:09:33] negotiate and execute contract

[4:09:34] with selected respondents under

[4:09:40] certain conditions

[4:09:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: 75.

[4:09:42] Under john wayne airport-

[4:09:42] approve model aggregate contract

[4:09:43] ma-280-26011042 for airport

[4:09:43] planning and programming

[4:09:44] services, 7/23/26-7/22/29

[4:09:45] (Aggregate total $3,000,000);

[4:09:46] select and approve respondents

[4:09:47] from solicitation ranking

[4:09:48] results list; and authorize

[4:09:48] county procurement

[4:09:49] officer or deputized designee to

[4:09:50] negotiate and execute contract

[4:09:51] with selected respondents under

[4:10:02] certain conditions

[4:10:03] >>clerk, robin stieler: 76.

[4:10:04] Under john wayne airport-

[4:10:05] approve aggregate contract

[4:10:06] ma-280-26011375 with frasca &

[4:10:08] associates, llc., unison

[4:10:10] consulting, inc. And ricondo &

[4:10:10] associates, inc. For airport

[4:10:12] commercial consulting

[4:10:14] services-airlines, three-year

[4:10:14] term (Aggregate total

[4:10:15] $1,100,000); renewable for one

[4:10:16] additional two-year term;

[4:10:16] authorize county procurement

[4:10:17] officer or deputized designee to

[4:10:18] execute contracts;

[4:10:19] authorize director or designee

[4:10:19] to exercise cost contingency

[4:10:20] increase not to exceed 10% under

[4:10:21] certain conditions; and make

[4:10:21] california environmental quality

[4:10:22] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

[4:10:33] under ceqa guidelines section 15378.

[4:10:37] We have no requests to speak on

[4:10:41] these items

[4:10:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: these are

[4:10:43] all district 4 items.

[4:10:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[4:10:46] move the items, and as it

[4:10:52] relates to 74, we'll move the

[4:10:56] klein felder and sir turner rma

[4:10:58] group to provide the materials,

[4:11:08] and as it receipts to 75 there's

[4:11:14] wsphmntb and kimly horn it looks

[4:11:17] like they wanted all three.

[4:11:17] Yes.

[4:11:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: did that

[4:11:20] cover it? I think it got all of

[4:11:23] the renders. It's been moved.

[4:11:25] I will second that item. Any

[4:11:27] objection? Those items are

[4:11:28] approved with the selection of

[4:11:35] the vendors.. Now we go to 77.

[4:11:36] >>clerk, robin stieler: 77.

[4:11:36] Under oc community resources-

[4:11:37] approve amendment 2 to

[4:11:38] cooperative agreement c-1-3446

[4:11:38] with orange county

[4:11:39] transportation authority for

[4:11:40] senior non-emergency medical

[4:11:40] transportation services, 7/1/26

[4:11:41] -6/30/31, in an award amount up

[4:11:41] to 1% of net measure m2

[4:11:42] revenues; and authorize director

[4:11:43] or designee to execute amendment

[4:11:43] 78. Oc community resources-

[4:11:48] select and approve respondent

[4:11:52] -- we have no requests to speak

[4:11:53] on agenda item 77

[4:11:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[4:11:57] an all-district item.

[4:11:58] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[4:11:58] the item.

[4:11:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[4:12:00] seconded. Any objection. Item

[4:12:04] is approved. 78, please.

[4:12:04] 78. Oc community resources-

[4:12:10] select and approve respondent

[4:12:10] and alternate respondent from

[4:12:11] solicitation ranking results

[4:12:12] list for tree care maintenance

[4:12:13] services; approve model contract

[4:12:13] 012-2964102-eb with selected

[4:12:14] respondent, 9/1/26-8/31/29

[4:12:15] ($10,080,000); renewable for one

[4:12:16] additional two-year term;

[4:12:17] authorize county procurement

[4:12:18] officer or deputized deputy to

[4:12:18] negotiate and execute contract

[4:12:19] under certain conditions; and

[4:12:20] make california environmental

[4:12:21] quality act (Ceqa) Findings

[4:12:24] under ceqa guidelines section 15304

[4:12:26] we have no requests to speak on

[4:12:28] agenda item 78..

[4:12:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[4:12:34] all-district item

[4:12:36] >>janet nguyen: I'll move it,

[4:12:36] MR. CHAIRMAN, and the selection

[4:12:40] would be with west coast

[4:12:43] arborist, inc.. And then

[4:12:44] mariposa tree management, inc.

[4:12:45] For a second

[4:12:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[4:12:49] Been moved and seconded. Any

[4:12:57] objection to those -- sorry.

[4:13:00] You have a recusal. Okay. So

[4:13:01] noted, and with that, the item

[4:13:05] is approved. Item 79, please.

[4:13:05] >>clerk, robin stieler: 79.

[4:13:06] Under oc public works-award

[4:13:07] contract ma-080-26011040 to R.J.

[4:13:08] Noble company for las flores

[4:13:08] gateway improvements and

[4:13:09] pavement rehabilitation project,

[4:13:10] 160 working day term

[4:13:11] ($15,783,498); authorize

[4:13:12] director or designee to execute

[4:13:12] contract; and make california

[4:13:13] environmental quality act (Ceqa)

[4:13:14] Exemption findings under ceqa

[4:13:15] guidelines sections 15301

[4:13:19] and 15302

[4:13:22] we have no requests to speak on

[4:13:23] agenda item 79..

[4:13:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: I believe

[4:13:26] we have a recusal again from

[4:13:28] supervisor wagner. This is a

[4:13:29] district 5 item.

[4:13:30] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[4:13:34] move the item..

[4:13:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there

[4:13:36] any selection here.

[4:13:38] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no,

[4:13:40] just for rj noble.

[4:13:40] >>chair, doug chaffee: I will

[4:13:42] second it. Any objection,

[4:13:43] noting the abstention? Thank

[4:13:46] you. Item 80, please.

[4:13:47] >>clerk, robin stieler: 80.

[4:13:47] Under oc public works-approve

[4:13:48] oc civic center parking

[4:13:49] maintenance fund 828 budget for

[4:13:49] civic center area operating

[4:13:50] costs, taxes/fees and projects,

[4:13:51] fy 2026-27 ($7,886,000);

[4:13:53] authorize auditor-

[4:13:54] controller to make related

[4:13:55] payments; and make california

[4:13:57] environmental quality act (Ceqa)

[4:13:59] Exemption findings under ceqa

[4:14:02] guidelines section 15301

[4:14:04] we have no requests to speak on

[4:14:06] agenda item 80.

[4:14:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[4:14:12] district 2 item. It's been

[4:14:14] moved and seconded. Supervisor

[4:14:14] foley, any comments.

[4:14:15] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

[4:14:17] I have a question. It looks

[4:14:21] like in the staffer report that

[4:14:24] this is the civic center parking

[4:14:28] maintenance, and there is a

[4:14:32] six-month preserve -- reserves?

[4:14:34] Is there a reason why we have to

[4:14:41] have six months of reserves?

[4:14:47] I'm not sure who to ask.

[4:14:47] MR. Onuma or --

[4:14:48] >>michelle aguirre: zack is

[4:14:51] coming up. I'm assuming it's

[4:14:53] related to a specific project

[4:14:55] but zack can clarify

[4:14:58] >>speaker: yes, I'm the

[4:14:59] administrative deputy director

[4:15:00] for orange county public works.

[4:15:01] We discussed with the city of

[4:15:03] santa ana given -- during covid,

[4:15:05] we head several capital projects

[4:15:07] that were being off-set at the

[4:15:09] same time that our revenue was

[4:15:10] decreasing due to lack of

[4:15:11] parking. So during that time,

[4:15:13] we decreased the reserves down

[4:15:14] to three months. We discussed

[4:15:17] during this operational cycle,

[4:15:18] having excess money, bringing it

[4:15:19] back up to a six-month level.

[4:15:20] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[4:15:22] Thank you.

[4:15:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's been

[4:15:24] moved and seconded. Any

[4:15:26] objection? Seeing none, tempt

[4:15:28] is approved. 81, please.

[4:15:29] >>clerk, robin stieler: 81.

[4:15:30] Under oc public works-award

[4:15:30] contract ma-080-26011250 to abm

[4:15:31] building solutions, llc for

[4:15:32] construction manager at-risk

[4:15:32] construction phase services,

[4:15:33] health care agency-madero new

[4:15:34] heating, ventilation, and air

[4:15:35] conditioning plant project,

[4:15:35] 250-day term ($1,885,000);

[4:15:37] authorize director or designee

[4:15:38] to execute contract; and make

[4:15:47] related budget adjustments

[4:15:49] this require as 4/5ths vote of

[4:15:51] the members present. We have no

[4:15:53] requests to speak on agenda item

[4:15:53] 81.

[4:15:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[4:15:56] district 3 item.

[4:15:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[4:15:58] second.

[4:15:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: motion

[4:16:00] carries unanimously, which

[4:16:02] satisfies that requirement.

[4:16:04] Item 82, please.

[4:16:05] >>clerk, robin stieler: 82.

[4:16:05] Under oc public works-approve

[4:16:06] contracts with qualified

[4:16:07] contractors for

[4:16:08] architect-engineer task

[4:16:09] order roadway and bikeway

[4:16:10] services, three-year terms

[4:16:10] ($2,700,000 each; aggregate

[4:16:11] total $16,200,000); and

[4:16:12] authorize director or designee

[4:16:14] to execute contracts

[4:16:17] we have no requests to speak on

[4:16:18] agenda item 82.

[4:16:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[4:16:21] all-district item

[4:16:23] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[4:16:23] the item.

[4:16:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: are there

[4:16:25] vendors here.

[4:16:26] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: there

[4:16:28] are six vendors that are

[4:16:29] indicated. We're just moving

[4:16:31] all six, correct?

[4:16:31] .

[4:16:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: I think

[4:16:34] that's right. Is there any -- I

[4:16:37] don't see anybody saying no.

[4:16:40] All right. Th been moved and

[4:16:41] seconded. Seeing no objection,

[4:16:44] item 82 is approved. 83,

[4:16:44] please.

[4:16:45] >>clerk, robin stieler: 83.

[4:16:46] Under oc public works-approve

[4:16:46] subordinate contract

[4:16:47] ma-080-25011203 with johnson

[4:16:48] controls fire protection lp for

[4:16:49] facility security & fire

[4:16:49] sprinkler systems, equipment and

[4:16:50] related services, 7/1/26

[4:16:51] -3/31/27 ($1,335,277);

[4:16:51] authorize county procurement

[4:16:52] officer or deputized designee to

[4:16:53] execute contract; and make

[4:16:54] california environmental quality

[4:16:55] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

[4:17:03] under ceqa guidelines section 15301

[4:17:05] we have no requests to speak on

[4:17:06] agenda item 83

[4:17:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[4:17:08] all-district item.

[4:17:09] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[4:17:10] the item.

[4:17:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[4:17:13] seconded. Any objection in

[4:17:15] seeing none, item is approved.

[4:17:15] 84, please.

[4:17:16] >>clerk, robin stieler: 84.

[4:17:17] Under oc public works-acting

[4:17:17] as orange county flood control

[4:17:18] district-approve amendment 1

[4:17:18] to cooperative agreement

[4:17:19] ma-080-25011369 with southern

[4:17:20] california regional rail

[4:17:21] authority for san juan creek

[4:17:22] bridge replacement project

[4:17:24] ($800,000; cumulative total $2,800,000)

[4:17:26] we have no requests to speak on

[4:17:27] agenda item 84.

[4:17:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[4:17:30] district 5 item.

[4:17:31] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[4:17:31] the item.

[4:17:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: I will

[4:17:34] second the item. Any objection?

[4:17:37] Motion carries. All right, 85,

[4:17:37] please.

[4:17:38] >>clerk, robin stieler: 85.

[4:17:39] Under oc public works-acting

[4:17:40] as board of supervisors and

[4:17:40] orange county flood control

[4:17:41] district-approve amendment 1

[4:17:43] to renew aggregate contracts

[4:17:43] ma-080-23010821 with airdev,

[4:17:45] inc. And efficient bpm llc for

[4:17:46] maintenance management

[4:17:47] integration services, 8/16/26-

[4:17:48] 8/15/28 ($700,000; cumulative

[4:17:48] aggregate total $1,750,000); and

[4:17:49] authorize county procurement

[4:17:50] officer or deputized designee to

[4:17:53] execute amendments

[4:17:56] we have no requests to speak on

[4:17:57] agenda item 85..

[4:17:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[4:18:00] an all-district item.

[4:18:00] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[4:18:03] the item..

[4:18:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[4:18:05] seconded. Any objection?

[4:18:06] Seeing none, item is approved.

[4:18:10] We go on to 86, please.

[4:18:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: 86.

[4:18:11] Under oc waste & recycling-

[4:18:12] approve amendment 3 to contract

[4:18:12] ma-299-25010112 with geosyntec

[4:18:13] consultants, inc. For landfill

[4:18:14] regulatory support services

[4:18:15] ($122,000; cumulative total

[4:18:15] $2,372,000); and authorize

[4:18:16] county procurement officer or

[4:18:17] deputized designee to make minor

[4:18:17] changes under certain conditions

[4:18:21] and execute amendment

[4:18:23] and we have no requests to speak

[4:18:25] on agenda item 86..

[4:18:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[4:18:31] all-district item. I will

[4:18:35] second it. Any objection? The

[4:18:38] motion carries. Item 87,

[4:18:39] please.

[4:18:39] >>clerk, robin stieler: 87.

[4:18:40] Under oc waste & recycling-

[4:18:41] approve amendment 3 to contract

[4:18:42] ma-299-23011446 with promax

[4:18:42] personnel, llc for temporary

[4:18:43] help for landfill laborer,

[4:18:44] 7/18/26-7/17/28 ($2,400,000,

[4:18:44] cumulative total $4,565,000);

[4:18:45] approve amendment 4 to renew

[4:18:46] contract ma-299-23011436 with

[4:18:46] promax personnel, llc for

[4:18:47] temporary help for fee station

[4:18:48] attendant, 9/25/26-9/24/28

[4:18:49] ($340,000; cumulative total

[4:18:50] $940,000); and authorize county

[4:18:51] procurement officer or deputized

[4:18:52] designee to make minor changes

[4:18:53] under certain conditions and

[4:18:58] execute amendments

[4:19:01] and we have no requests to speak

[4:19:03] on agenda item 87..

[4:19:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[4:19:05] district 3, 4, and 5 item. I

[4:19:07] will move for approval. Moved

[4:19:08] and seconded. Any objection?

[4:19:11] Item is approved. 88, please.

[4:19:12] >>clerk, robin stieler: 88.

[4:19:12] Under oc waste & recycling-

[4:19:13] approve contract ma-299-26010687

[4:19:14] with helix environmental

[4:19:14] planning, inc. For landscape

[4:19:15] maintenance for native plant

[4:19:16] habitat management, south region

[4:19:16] landfills, 9/1/26-8/31/29

[4:19:17] ($6,757,500); renewable for one

[4:19:18] additional two-year term; and

[4:19:19] authorize county procurement

[4:19:20] officer or deputized designee to

[4:19:20] make minor changes under

[4:19:27] certain conditions and execute contract

[4:19:29] we have no requests to speak on

[4:19:31] agenda item 88..

[4:19:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[4:19:35] district 3 and 5 item..

[4:19:36] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[4:19:36] second.

[4:19:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: any

[4:19:38] objection.

[4:19:39] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'd

[4:19:40] like to make a comment.

[4:19:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: go

[4:19:41] ahead.

[4:19:42] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: given

[4:19:44] the concerns expressed about use

[4:19:45] of herbicides, I want to mention

[4:19:47] for the public there's multiple

[4:19:48] mentions throughout the contract

[4:19:51] that no herbicides will be used

[4:19:55] in public areas including five

[4:19:58] foot buffer around trails and

[4:20:01] only applied to specific

[4:20:03] invasive non-native species at

[4:20:06] this location. Thank you..

[4:20:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: did we

[4:20:08] get a second on this

[4:20:09] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes.

[4:20:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[4:20:13] seconded. Any objection? 88 is

[4:20:16] approved. 89, please.

[4:20:17] >>clerk, robin stieler: 89.

[4:20:17] Under oc waste & recycling-

[4:20:18] approve amendment 2 to contracts

[4:20:19] ma-299-22011312 with tetra tech

[4:20:20] bas, inc. ($3,606,255;

[4:20:20] cumulative total $11,759,876)

[4:20:21] And ma-299-22011322 with swt

[4:20:22] engineering, inc. ($99,957;

[4:20:23] cumulative total $360,049),

[4:20:24] terms ending 7/30/27; and

[4:20:25] approve change order 6 to

[4:20:26] contract ma-299-24010124 with

[4:20:27] sukut construction, llc,

[4:20:28] ($9,819,459; cumulative

[4:20:29] total $98,741,594), 1,185-day

[4:20:30] term, for prima zone 4 phase a

[4:20:31] mass excavation and liner

[4:20:32] project; and authorize director

[4:20:33] or designee, under delegated

[4:20:34] authority from oc public works,

[4:20:35] to execute amendments and

[4:20:40] contract change order

[4:20:42] we have no requests to speak on

[4:20:43] agenda item 89..

[4:20:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[4:20:49] district 5 item. Go ahead and

[4:20:50] make your comments.

[4:20:51] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[4:20:53] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. This item is

[4:20:56] brought to us because of a need

[4:20:58] for an additional funding for

[4:21:02] the contract due to some

[4:21:03] geological concerns and the

[4:21:05] approval of this is as it

[4:21:09] relates to making sure that we

[4:21:13] are not having the ground water

[4:21:16] impacted. Unforeseen geological

[4:21:17] conditions required additional

[4:21:18] work and additional time for

[4:21:22] this project..

[4:21:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: did I get

[4:21:23] a second

[4:21:24] >>clerk, robin stieler: no. We

[4:21:27] still need a second..

[4:21:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[4:21:29] seconded. Any objection? Item

[4:21:32] 89 is approved. We go on to 90

[4:21:32] please.

[4:21:33] >>clerk, robin stieler: 90.

[4:21:34] Under probation-approve

[4:21:34] memorandum of understanding

[4:21:35] (Mou) Between county of orange,

[4:21:36] orange county probation

[4:21:36] department, and superior court

[4:21:37] of california, county of orange

[4:21:38] for sb 129 pretrial release

[4:21:38] program, 7/1/26-6/30/27; and

[4:21:39] authorize county executive

[4:21:40] officer and chief probation

[4:21:51] officer or designee to execute mou

[4:21:53] and we have no requests to speak

[4:21:54] on agenda item 90.

[4:21:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[4:21:58] all-district item. Moved and

[4:22:00] seconded. Any objection? Item

[4:22:02] 90 is approved. 91, please.

[4:22:02] >>clerk, robin stieler: 91.

[4:22:04] Under registrar of voters-

[4:22:04] approve contract ma-031-26011329

[4:22:06] with dmt solutions global

[4:22:07] corporation dba bluecrest for

[4:22:07] hardware maintenance on document

[4:22:08] messaging technologies

[4:22:09] sorters, inserters and server

[4:22:11] and software licensing and

[4:22:14] maintenance, 8/12/26-8/11/31

[4:22:15] ($2,532,741); and authorize

[4:22:16] county procurement officer or

[4:22:17] deputized designee to exercise

[4:22:18] cost contingency increase not to

[4:22:20] exceed 10% under certain

[4:22:26] conditions and execute contract.

[4:22:27] And MR. Chair, we received three

[4:22:34] requests to speak on agenda item

[4:22:38] 91. Lisa h, kate, and

[4:22:55] california precinct activators.

[4:22:57] >>speaker: hi, supervisors.

[4:23:00] Just california election's code

[4:23:06] 18568 neighbors a crime -- it's

[4:23:08] only 1 minute.

[4:23:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: no

[4:23:10] interruptions, please

[4:23:12] >>speaker: please, could I have

[4:23:14] my time? California elections

[4:23:18] code 18568 neighbors a crime to

[4:23:21] aid in changing or destroying an

[4:23:22] official ballot, to wrongfully

[4:23:26] remove ballots or to willfully

[4:23:28] detrain, mutilate or destroy

[4:23:30] ballots or election returns,

[4:23:31] violations can be charged as

[4:23:33] felonies. We're replacing

[4:23:35] machines that were slicing the

[4:23:36] envelopes and slicing the

[4:23:39] ballots in half at one time. We

[4:23:42] as citizen observers asked the

[4:23:45] registrar of voters if we could

[4:23:46] witness this in the room. This

[4:23:48] is not an observable place. We

[4:23:50] weren't allowed to look at this.

[4:23:52] I just request that since he's

[4:23:55] your appointee, that we make a

[4:23:57] change to the rotation then, but

[4:23:58] we need to fix the problem.

[4:23:59] Thank you

[4:24:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:24:05] you. Next speaker, please.

[4:24:07] >>speaker: good morning, board.

[4:24:10] So one-day voting, paper

[4:24:15] ballots, no mail-in ballots. So

[4:24:17] this is kind of a joke. Over 91

[4:24:20] ways for you to steal more

[4:24:22] money, all of you are despicable

[4:24:25] but nothing will change your

[4:24:28] behavior. The $2.5 million is

[4:24:30] because you had ballots ripped

[4:24:32] by machines designed to open

[4:24:34] them. If the general population

[4:24:38] would stop voting by mail, all

[4:24:42] of this would not be needed. As

[4:24:45] long as every politician,

[4:24:47] political party, government

[4:24:50] stooge -- as you are --

[4:24:53] continues to support mail-in

[4:24:55] ballots, we will -- this will

[4:24:59] continue, and we will waste more

[4:25:02] taxpayer money. One-day voting,

[4:25:07] paper ballots, id. Thank you

[4:25:08] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:25:09] you, ma'am. MAY we have the

[4:25:14] next special please.

[4:25:16] >>speaker: bob page is currently

[4:25:17] under investigations by the

[4:25:18] department of justice. The

[4:25:22] united states versus page for

[4:25:26] not complying with -- and

[4:25:31] continuing on with unredacted

[4:25:34] data. Why are we even

[4:25:37] entertaining for the taxpayers

[4:25:38] of orange county to spend

[4:25:40] another $2.5 million when we

[4:25:43] have a -- we currently have the

[4:25:45] registrar voter bob page under

[4:25:46] federal investigation by the

[4:25:47] department of justice? You can

[4:25:50] guys please answer that? Why we

[4:25:52] would be entertaining anything

[4:25:54] from the registrar of voters bob

[4:25:56] page. Can any of you answer

[4:25:59] that? Why do we even have this

[4:26:02] as an agenda item? Voter fraud

[4:26:04] is rampant. One-day voting.

[4:26:07] One-day counting. No mail-in

[4:26:10] ballots. This is destroying our

[4:26:12] country. And this is just on

[4:26:14] record here for the voters of

[4:26:16] orange county. Thank you very

[4:26:16] much.

[4:26:18] >>clerk, robin stieler: no

[4:26:20] further speakers, MR. Chair.

[4:26:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: again

[4:26:22] this is an all-district item. I

[4:26:23] think we had a motion, but I

[4:26:24] didn't hear a second

[4:26:26] >>vincente sarmiento: second.

[4:26:27] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[4:26:29] seconded. Any objection? Item

[4:26:31] 91 is approved. 92 please.

[4:26:31] >>clerk, robin stieler: 92.

[4:26:32] Under social services agency-

[4:26:33] approve amendment 1 to renew

[4:26:34] master contract ma-063-23010975

[4:26:35] and individual contract with

[4:26:37] hopskipdrive, inc. For

[4:26:37] children'

[4:26:38] s school of origin and

[4:26:39] foster youth transportation

[4:26:41] services, 7/1/26-6/30/28

[4:26:42] ($950,000; aggregate cumulative

[4:26:43] total $2,975,000); and

[4:26:45] authorize county procurement

[4:26:46] officer or deputized designee to

[4:26:46] execute amendments and

[4:26:47] accept claims-made sexual

[4:26:48] misconduct liability insurance

[4:26:51] under certain conditions

[4:26:53] we have no requests to speak on

[4:26:56] agenda item 92.

[4:26:58] >>vincente sarmiento: move the

[4:26:58] item.

[4:26:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there

[4:27:01] a second? Supervisor foley, you

[4:27:02] have a comment.

[4:27:03] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

[4:27:05] So I am very concerned about

[4:27:07] this, and I know we already have

[4:27:08] this contract, but I want to

[4:27:12] make sure that as procurement

[4:27:14] looks at the new solicitation,

[4:27:17] maybe we need to get with c zack

[4:27:20] and sort of survey what other

[4:27:24] counties are paying for these

[4:27:28] services because a base rate of

[4:27:35] $43 for a ride from where a

[4:27:38] child is living, whether it's in

[4:27:39] orangewood or a family home, and

[4:27:49] to school, plus $2.95 per mile,

[4:27:50] that seems extraordinary to me.

[4:27:52] And it appears that the average

[4:27:58] ride is about 10 miles so we

[4:28:02] paid about $444,000 last year

[4:28:05] for approximately 440 rides.

[4:28:07] And so it just seems

[4:28:09] extraordinary to be paying this

[4:28:10] much. And I feel like it's

[4:28:13] because no one ever asks or

[4:28:15] pushes back, and they have just

[4:28:16] a monopoly on this type of

[4:28:19] service. So I hope that we will

[4:28:21] try to negotiate a better deal

[4:28:23] for the county. Of course, we

[4:28:24] want children to be transported

[4:28:27] safely with all of the, you

[4:28:29] know, lifescan and background

[4:28:31] checks and the appropriate

[4:28:34] insurance. But I can't seem to

[4:28:36] get a itemization of what those

[4:28:38] costs are. So as we move into

[4:28:40] the next solicitation, I hope we

[4:28:42] can be a little bit more

[4:28:44] aggressive in negotiating down

[4:28:45] these fees..

[4:28:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:28:49] you. Did we get a motion?

[4:28:51] >>clerk, robin stieler: a motion

[4:28:53] by supervisor sarmiento, but I

[4:28:54] didn't hear a second

[4:28:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have a

[4:28:59] motion, any objection? Item is

[4:28:59] approved

[4:29:00] >>clerk, robin stieler:

[4:29:01] MR. Chair, who seconded the

[4:29:02] motion.

[4:29:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: me

[4:29:03] >>clerk, robin stieler: thank

[4:29:05] you very much

[4:29:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: that's

[4:29:09] correct please.

[4:29:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: 93.

[4:29:11] Under social services agency-

[4:29:11] approve contract

[4:29:12] ma-063-260101048 with the

[4:29:12] regents of the

[4:29:13] university of california, on

[4:29:14] behalf of uci university

[4:29:15] physicians & surgeons, uci

[4:29:15] department of psychiatry for

[4:29:16] sexual abuse counseling

[4:29:17] services, 7/1/26-6/30/29

[4:29:17] ($4,725,000); renewable for one

[4:29:18] additional two-year term; and

[4:29:19] authorize county procurement

[4:29:20] officer or deputized designee to

[4:29:21] exercise cost contingency

[4:29:21] increase not to exceed 10% under

[4:29:22] certain conditions and execute

[4:29:25] contract

[4:29:27] and we have no requests to speak

[4:29:28] on agenda item 93.

[4:29:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[4:29:32] district 2 item moved and

[4:29:33] seconded. Any objection? Item

[4:29:36] is approved. 94, please.

[4:29:36] >>clerk, robin stieler: 94.

[4:29:37] Under social services agency-

[4:29:38] approve amendment 2 to renew

[4:29:38] master agreement cps0221-00 for

[4:29:39] drug testing services

[4:29:40] ($1,600,000; aggregate total

[4:29:43] $9,600,000); approve amendment 5

[4:29:44] to agreements csp00221-01 with

[4:29:46] associates in counseling and

[4:29:46] mediation, cps0221-02 with e&j

[4:29:47] medical services, cps0221-03

[4:29:49] with scram of california, inc.,

[4:29:50] amendment 2 to agreement

[4:29:51] cps0221-05 with dms services,

[4:29:52] inc. And amendment 1 to contract

[4:29:54] ma-063-25011169 with redwood

[4:29:55] toxicology laboratory, inc. For

[4:29:56] drug testing services, 7/1/26-

[4:29:58] 6/30/27; and authorize county

[4:29:59] procurement officer or deputized

[4:30:03] designee to execute amendments

[4:30:05] and we have no requests to speak

[4:30:08] on agenda item 94..

[4:30:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there

[4:30:10] any motion.

[4:30:11] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

[4:30:11] the item

[4:30:13] >>vincente sarmiento: second.

[4:30:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[4:30:15] Moved and seconded. Any

[4:30:15] objection? Item is approved.

[4:30:20] Now we go to our supplements.

[4:30:21] I'm going to ask the clerk to

[4:30:25] start with supplements 94a, l,

[4:30:40] m, and y.

[4:30:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94a.

[4:30:42] Under chair chaffee-approve

[4:30:43] allocation of $23,350 from

[4:30:44] fourth district discretionary

[4:30:45] funds to homeless intervention

[4:30:45] services of orange county for

[4:30:46] roof replacement project; make

[4:30:47] related findings under

[4:30:48] government code section 26227;

[4:30:49] authorize county executive

[4:30:50] officer or designee to negotiate

[4:30:51] and enter into agreement as

[4:30:52] necessary; and authorize

[4:30:53] auditor-controller or designee

[4:31:09] to make related payments

[4:31:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94l.

[4:31:12] Under chair chaffee-approve

[4:31:13] allocation of $250,000 from

[4:31:14] fourth district discretionary

[4:31:15] funds to support city of

[4:31:15] stanton's norm ross sports

[4:31:16] complex for youth sports access

[4:31:17] and community health

[4:31:18] improvement; make related

[4:31:19] findings under government code

[4:31:20] section 26227; authorize

[4:31:21] county executive officer or

[4:31:22] designee to negotiate and enter

[4:31:23] into agreement as necessary; and

[4:31:24] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:31:37] designee to make related payments

[4:31:38] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94m.

[4:31:40] Under chair chaffee-approve

[4:31:41] sponsorship of various nonprofit

[4:31:42] entities from fourth district

[4:31:43] events funds; approve addition

[4:31:44] or revision of events to fy

[4:31:45] 2025-26 county events calendar;

[4:31:46] make related findings under

[4:31:47] government code section 26227;

[4:31:48] and authorize auditor-controller

[4:32:07] to make related payments

[4:32:07] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94y.

[4:32:08] Under chair chaffee-approve

[4:32:09] allocation of $5,000 from fourth

[4:32:09] district discretionary funds to

[4:32:10] brea chamber of commerce for

[4:32:11] women rising leadership academy;

[4:32:12] make related findings under

[4:32:13] government code section 26227;

[4:32:13] authorize county executive

[4:32:14] officer or designee to negotiate

[4:32:15] and enter into agreement as

[4:32:16] necessary; and authorize

[4:32:17] auditor-controller or designee

[4:32:28] to make related payments

[4:32:29] let me just double-check. I

[4:32:32] don't think I have any speakers

[4:32:33] requests. We have no requests

[4:32:36] to speak on those items,

[4:32:36] MR. Chair

[4:32:37] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:32:39] you. MADAM Clerk, I will move

[4:32:39] all of those items.

[4:32:40] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[4:32:40] second.

[4:32:43] >>chair, doug chaffee: second.

[4:32:45] Any objection? Those items are

[4:32:46] approved. I'd like to go

[4:32:53] supplements 94b, d, and h.

[4:32:54] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94b.

[4:32:54] Under supervisor wagner-

[4:32:55] approve allocation of $50,000

[4:32:55] from third district

[4:32:56] discretionary funds to

[4:32:57] oc parks for fish stocking and

[4:32:57] fishing derby at irvine lake;

[4:32:58] make related findings under

[4:32:59] government code section 26227;

[4:33:00] authorize county executive

[4:33:00] officer or designee to negotiate

[4:33:01] and enter into agreement as

[4:33:02] necessary; and authorize

[4:33:03] auditor-controller or designee

[4:33:37] to make related payments

[4:33:37] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94d.

[4:33:38] Under supervisor wagner-

[4:33:39] approve allocation of $18,500

[4:33:40] from third district

[4:33:40] discretionary funds to

[4:33:41] crescent elementary pta for

[4:33:42] creation of student wellness

[4:33:43] space at crescent elementary school,

[4:33:44] anaheim hills; make related

[4:33:44] findings under government code

[4:33:45] section 26227; authorize county

[4:33:46] executive officer or designee to

[4:33:46] negotiate and enter into

[4:33:47] agreement as necessary; and

[4:33:48] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:34:00] designee to make related payments

[4:34:00] s94h. Supervisor wagner-

[4:34:01] approve allocation of $300,000

[4:34:02] from third district

[4:34:03] discretionary funds to

[4:34:03] veteran strong usa to expand

[4:34:04] services and support for orange

[4:34:04] county veterans and their

[4:34:05] families; make related findings

[4:34:06] under government code section

[4:34:06] 26227; authorize county

[4:34:07] executive officer or designee to

[4:34:08] negotiate and enter into

[4:34:08] agreement as necessary; and

[4:34:09] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:34:12] designee to make related payments

[4:34:15] and we have no requests to speak

[4:34:16] on those items.

[4:34:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[4:34:19] seconded. Any objection? Those

[4:34:23] items are approved. 94n through

[4:34:36] u as well as supplement 94bb.

[4:34:37] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94n.

[4:34:38] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:34:39] allocation of $50,000 from fifth

[4:34:40] district discretionary funds to

[4:34:40] city of laguna beach for a

[4:34:41] helopod2; make related findings

[4:34:42] under government code section

[4:34:43] 26227; authorize county

[4:34:43] executive officer or designee to

[4:34:44] negotiate and enter into

[4:34:45] agreement as necessary; and

[4:34:46] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:34:57] designee to make related payments

[4:34:58] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94o.

[4:34:59] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:35:00] allocation of $5,000 from fifth

[4:35:02] district discretionary funds to

[4:35:03] environmental nature center for

[4:35:04] the traveling naturalist

[4:35:05] program; make related findings

[4:35:06] under government code section

[4:35:07] 26227; authorize county

[4:35:08] executive officer or designee to

[4:35:09] negotiate and enter into

[4:35:11] agreement as necessary; and

[4:35:12] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:35:18] designee to make related payments

[4:35:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94p.

[4:35:20] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:35:21] allocation of $25,000 from fifth

[4:35:22] district discretionary funds to

[4:35:23] pacific chorale for music

[4:35:23] education programming; make

[4:35:24] related findings under

[4:35:25] government code section 26227;

[4:35:26] authorize county executive

[4:35:27] officer or designee to negotiate

[4:35:28] and enter into agreement as

[4:35:30] necessary; and authorize

[4:35:31] auditor-controller or designee

[4:35:40] to make related payments

[4:35:42] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94q.

[4:35:42] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:35:43] allocation of $10,000 from fifth

[4:35:44] district discretionary funds to

[4:35:45] newport harbor lawn bowling

[4:35:45] association for clubhouse

[4:35:46] facility repairs; make related

[4:35:47] findings under government code

[4:35:48] section 26227; authorize county

[4:35:48] executive officer or designee to

[4:35:49] negotiate and enter into

[4:35:51] agreement as necessary; and

[4:35:57] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:36:04] designee to make related payments

[4:36:06] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94r.

[4:36:08] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:36:10] allocation of $37,000 from fifth

[4:36:11] district discretionary funds to

[4:36:13] boys & girls club of laguna

[4:36:14] beach for the jazz up the gym

[4:36:15] project; make related findings

[4:36:16] under government code section

[4:36:17] 26227; authorize county

[4:36:18] executive officer or designee to

[4:36:19] negotiate and enter into

[4:36:20] agreement as necessary; and

[4:36:21] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:36:27] designee to make related payments

[4:36:27] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94s.

[4:36:28] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:36:29] allocation of $8,500 from fifth

[4:36:31] district discretionary funds to

[4:36:32] newport-mesa schools foundation

[4:36:33] for grants to teachers program;

[4:36:34] make related findings under

[4:36:35] government code section 26227;

[4:36:36] authorize county executive

[4:36:37] officer or designee to negotiate

[4:36:38] and enter into agreement as

[4:36:40] necessary; and authorize

[4:36:41] auditor-controller or designee

[4:36:52] to make related payments

[4:36:55] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94t.

[4:36:56] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:36:57] allocation of $250,000 from

[4:36:59] fifth district discretionary

[4:37:01] funds to planned parenthood

[4:37:06] orange and san bernardino

[4:37:07] counties, inc. For contraceptive

[4:37:09] access; make related findings

[4:37:12] under government code section

[4:37:14] 26227; authorize county

[4:37:15] executive officer or designee to

[4:37:18] negotiate and enter into

[4:37:21] agreement as necessary; and

[4:37:21] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:37:25] designee to make related payments

[4:37:27] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94u.

[4:37:27] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:37:28] allocation of $6,000 from fifth

[4:37:33] district discretionary funds to

[4:37:33] san clemente elks lodge #2068

[4:37:34] for pendleton pantry 2; make

[4:37:35] related findings under

[4:37:36] government code section 26227;

[4:37:37] authorize county executive

[4:37:39] officer or designee to negotiate

[4:37:40] and enter into agreement as

[4:37:41] necessary; and authorize

[4:37:41] auditor-controller or designee

[4:37:55] to make related payments

[4:37:56] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94bb.

[4:37:56] Under vice chair foley-approve

[4:37:57] sponsorship of various nonprofit

[4:37:58] entities from fifth district

[4:37:58] events funds; approve addition

[4:37:59] or revision of events to fy

[4:38:00] 2026-27 county events calendar;

[4:38:01] make related findings under

[4:38:02] government code section 26227;

[4:38:03] and authorize auditor-controller

[4:38:13] to make related payments

[4:38:14] MR. Chair, we've received two

[4:38:16] requests to speak on s94t.

[4:38:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm

[4:38:19] sorry, which?

[4:38:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: 94t.

[4:38:21] Two requests.

[4:38:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[4:38:24] Please call those speakers

[4:38:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: kate and

[4:38:31] california precinct activators.

[4:38:34] >>speaker: good morning. I

[4:38:35] think planned parenthood really

[4:38:38] supports women and girls, first

[4:38:42] of all. Planned parenthood

[4:38:45] consistently opposes informed

[4:38:49] consent laws, and they call it

[4:38:52] biased or a barrier to abortion.

[4:38:55] Planned parenthood encourages

[4:38:58] sex selection abortion. Planned

[4:39:00] parenthood lobbies in favor of

[4:39:02] child marriage. Yes, child

[4:39:05] marriage, and at least 48 minors

[4:39:09] have been subjected to marriage

[4:39:16] practices since 2017 to avoid a

[4:39:20] loophole, to avoid pros cushion

[4:39:23] for statutory rape. Under --

[4:39:25] there was an undercover

[4:39:28] investigation in 2011 where the

[4:39:30] planned parenthood employee not

[4:39:34] only failed to report suspected

[4:39:35] sex trafficking.

[4:39:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:39:38] you, your time is up

[4:39:40] >>speaker: this should be a "no"

[4:39:42] vote for planned parenthood.

[4:39:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:39:44] you.

[4:39:46] >>clerk, robin stieler:

[4:39:47] MR. Chair, after california

[4:39:49] precinct activators, there is

[4:39:52] one more speaker, ale

[4:39:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: please

[4:39:55] call that speaker

[4:39:57] >>speaker: okay, maximum law, he

[4:40:00] who is in the womb is considered

[4:40:01] born whenever his benefit is

[4:40:05] concerned. Since 1973 we have

[4:40:07] planned parenthood -- since roe

[4:40:11] v. Wade, they have aborted 64

[4:40:13] million babies. Islam is having

[4:40:16] approximately 5 to 10 babies per

[4:40:17] man. What do you think this

[4:40:19] someplace gonna look like in a

[4:40:25] few years? Okay? Now, how nice

[4:40:29] to spend $250,000 of your

[4:40:32] discretionary money,

[4:40:35] MS. Foley -- how nice. How

[4:40:36] nice. How nice. What

[4:40:38] guarantees are you providing the

[4:40:39] citizens -- excuse me, the

[4:40:40] people of orange county that

[4:40:42] this money is not going to be

[4:40:45] used towards more abortions?

[4:40:47] You can give us a guarantee that

[4:40:49] this is only going to be used

[4:40:51] for your supposed pill? Can I

[4:40:53] get that in writing? By what

[4:40:58] authority do you have to -- to

[4:41:00] blatantly, to just callously

[4:41:02] allow $250,000 of taxpayer money

[4:41:03] to be spent.

[4:41:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[4:41:05] for your comment. Okay.

[4:41:07] Supervisor nguyen, had you a

[4:41:08] comment

[4:41:08] >>clerk, robin stieler:

[4:41:12] MR. Chair, one more speaker.

[4:41:16] The speaker is ale. Ale

[4:41:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there

[4:41:22] another speaker?

[4:41:24] >>clerk, robin stieler:

[4:41:26] speaker's not present.

[4:41:27] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[4:41:28] supervisor nguyen

[4:41:29] >>janet nguyen: I'd like to

[4:41:32] record an abstention on s94t and

[4:41:35] s94bb. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN

[4:41:36] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[4:41:37] supervisor wagner?

[4:41:39] >>don wagner: thank you. And

[4:41:43] I'm a no on 94t. Thank you..

[4:41:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[4:41:46] move all of the items that were

[4:41:48] read by the clerk.

[4:41:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: noting

[4:41:50] the no vote and also the

[4:41:54] abstentions. Any objection?

[4:41:55] >>clerk, robin stieler: we need

[4:41:56] a second

[4:41:57] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll

[4:41:57] second it.

[4:41:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: did you

[4:42:01] catch all of the abstentions?

[4:42:01] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes. I

[4:42:03] did. Thank you very much..

[4:42:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[4:42:05] right. So the items are

[4:42:07] approved dually noting the no

[4:42:09] vote and the abstentions, as

[4:42:11] well. Now I'd like to move on

[4:42:22] to supplement 94I.

[4:42:23] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94I.

[4:42:23] Approve allocation of $500,000

[4:42:24] from first district

[4:42:25] discretionary funds to

[4:42:25] the city of garden grove for

[4:42:26] residents affected by gkn

[4:42:28] aerospace hazardous materials

[4:42:29] incident; make related findings

[4:42:30] under government code section

[4:42:30] 26227; authorize county

[4:42:31] executive officer or designee to

[4:42:32] negotiate and enter into

[4:42:33] agreement as necessary; and

[4:42:34] authorize auditor-controller or

[4:42:42] designee to make related payments

[4:42:46] we have no requests to speak on

[4:42:46] s94I.

[4:42:47] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[4:42:47] supervisor nguyen

[4:42:47] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[4:42:49] MR. CHAIRMAN. This is to

[4:42:51] allocate one-time funding to the

[4:42:53] city of garden grove to provide

[4:42:54] relief to the residents that

[4:42:57] were affected in the hazmat

[4:42:59] incident. I want to make sure

[4:43:00] that's publically known that I

[4:43:02] too also want to make sure that

[4:43:06] gkn fully reimburse and makes

[4:43:06] everybody whole. This is

[4:43:08] because that process could take

[4:43:12] a little longer, and not that I

[4:43:15] agree with that. I don't.

[4:43:16] However, the last funding that

[4:43:20] was given to united way, the $3

[4:43:22] million within a week or so, so

[4:43:25] I think this would assist and

[4:43:26] help those individuals who was

[4:43:28] not able to access those fund

[4:43:30] ickes to get the funding

[4:43:33] immediately. This is also,

[4:43:34] though, to -- making sure that

[4:43:37] we as a county, when we receive

[4:43:39] our settlement or our

[4:43:40] reimbursement from gkn, that we

[4:43:43] bring this $500,000 back to make

[4:43:46] it whole so that this is just

[4:43:47] right now to allocate it so that

[4:43:49] it can get out there immediately

[4:43:51] for those residents and help.

[4:43:52] And so I want to make sure that

[4:43:54] this does come back and restore

[4:43:56] to the funding -- to our funding

[4:43:58] so that we can continue to help

[4:43:59] our district. But right now I

[4:44:02] want to make sure that this gets

[4:44:03] out there immediately to help

[4:44:04] those residents. And those who

[4:44:07] received fund forecast united

[4:44:09] way will not receive this

[4:44:10] funding. Garden grove is

[4:44:12] committed to working with united

[4:44:14] way to make -- to

[4:44:14] cross-reference those

[4:44:16] individuals so that we can add

[4:44:17] additional 1,000 more

[4:44:19] individuals to help them instead

[4:44:22] of giving duplicate fundings to

[4:44:22] individuals. Thank you,

[4:44:25] MR. CHAIRMAN. And I'll move the

[4:44:25] item.

[4:44:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:44:28] you. I heard a second from

[4:44:30] vice-chair. Is there any

[4:44:31] objection? Seeing none, thank

[4:44:34] you for taking a whack at needs

[4:44:38] over there for this tragedy. I

[4:44:39] would like to move on to

[4:44:47] supplement 94aa.

[4:44:50] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94aa.

[4:44:51] Approve sponsorship of various

[4:44:52] nonprofit entities from second

[4:44:53] district events funds; approve

[4:44:55] addition or revision of events

[4:44:56] to fy 2026-27 county events

[4:44:57] calendar; make related findings

[4:44:59] under government code section

[4:45:00] 26227; and authorize

[4:45:02] auditor-controller to make

[4:45:07] related payments

[4:45:14] we have no requests to speak on

[4:45:14] s94aa

[4:45:15] >>vincente sarmiento: move the

[4:45:15] item.

[4:45:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

[4:45:18] to second it

[4:45:20] >>janet nguyen: I'll record an

[4:45:21] abstention, MR. CHAIRMAN.

[4:45:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[4:45:22] right. The item is approved.

[4:45:25] Now we're going to go back up to

[4:45:34] supplement 94c.

[4:45:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94c.

[4:45:35] under county executive office-

[4:45:36] appoint cornelius hericus (Kc)

[4:45:36] Roestenberg as interim county

[4:45:37] executive officer; approve

[4:45:38] employment agreement, effective

[4:45:39] 6/26/26 ($430,000 annual salary

[4:45:40] with total compensation $656,968

[4:45:43] including benefits)

[4:45:44] And we have no requests to speak

[4:45:45] on this item.

[4:45:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

[4:45:47] all-district item. County

[4:45:49] counsel I think has a comment

[4:45:51] >>leon page: as the school board

[4:45:52] aware, before the board takes

[4:45:53] final action on the compensation

[4:45:56] to be paid to a local agency

[4:45:58] executive, an oral report is

[4:45:58] required. In this instance

[4:46:00] before you is a proposed

[4:46:02] employment agreement for casey

[4:46:04] rosenberg to serve as the

[4:46:05] interim county executive

[4:46:08] officer. Compensation is set at

[4:46:08] $430,000 annually

[4:46:10] , and MR. Rosenberg will receive

[4:46:13] the same benefits that are

[4:46:14] generally provided to other

[4:46:16] executive management employees.

[4:46:19] Thank you..

[4:46:21] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[4:46:21] vice-chair foley.

[4:46:22] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[4:46:23] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I think

[4:46:25] supervisor nguyen, did you move

[4:46:25] the item

[4:46:27] >>janet nguyen: I did.

[4:46:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[4:46:31] second. And I want to welcome

[4:46:33] MR. Rosenberg to the positions

[4:46:36] of ceo. Be careful what you ask

[4:46:39] for. But MR. Rosenberg brings

[4:46:41] two decades of county experience

[4:46:43] and knowledge of county

[4:46:47] operations. We know that's been

[4:46:48] shadowing our ceo for a few

[4:46:52] weeks and getting a lot of the

[4:46:53] briefings under his belt. So we

[4:46:55] look forward to working with

[4:46:59] you. The summer is going to be

[4:47:01] a lot of work to get prepared

[4:47:02] for the fall. So thank you so

[4:47:05] much for being willing to serve.

[4:47:05] .

[4:47:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[4:47:08] right. Thank you. I'll join

[4:47:10] saying congratulations and thank

[4:47:12] you for stepping pickup is there

[4:47:15] any objection? Seeing none, and

[4:47:20] the contract is approved. Now

[4:47:25] we go to supplement 94e.

[4:47:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94e.

[4:47:27] Under vice chair foley-direct

[4:47:27] oc public works staff to develop

[4:47:28] public notice requirements for

[4:47:32] proposed herbicide or pesticide application

[4:47:34] and MR. Chair, we've received

[4:47:36] two requests to speak on s94e

[4:47:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: call the

[4:47:38] speakers please.

[4:47:40] >>clerk, robin stieler: bethany

[4:47:46] helms and axle eaton.

[4:47:50] >>speaker: my name is bethany

[4:47:51] with creek team and I'm speaking

[4:47:53] today about transparency. The

[4:47:54] public has a right to know when

[4:47:55] herbicides are being applied in

[4:47:56] their communities. Residents

[4:47:59] use creek trails every day.

[4:48:00] Families walk them, children

[4:48:02] play near them, dog owners,

[4:48:03] cyclists, bird watchers and

[4:48:05] volunteers spend countless hours

[4:48:07] in these public spaces. We are

[4:48:08] heard that people are not

[4:48:09] supposed to be in the creeks and

[4:48:11] they're not affected, yet I

[4:48:12] personally documented your

[4:48:13] contractor spraying vegetation

[4:48:16] less than 10 feet from a public

[4:48:17] trail on a windy day. This

[4:48:19] absolutely affects residents.

[4:48:20] This isn't just about decency.

[4:48:22] This is about liability. For

[4:48:24] years, residents have had no

[4:48:26] idea when or where herbicides

[4:48:28] were being applied. Had they

[4:48:29] known, they MAY have chosen to

[4:48:32] avoid those areas. Transparency

[4:48:33] should not be optional. If

[4:48:35] herbicides are being sprayed in

[4:48:35] public space, there should be

[4:48:37] clear notification through

[4:48:40] signage and online disclosures.

[4:48:41] It is about the public's trite

[4:48:43] make informed decisions. I urge

[4:48:45] the forward about vote yes on

[4:48:46] public notification. This is

[4:48:47] your opportunity to show the

[4:48:48] public how much you actually

[4:48:50] value them. Thank you..

[4:48:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[4:48:52] you. MAY we have the next

[4:48:57] speaker, please.

[4:48:59] >>speaker: good afternoon,

[4:49:02] supervisors. My name is axle

[4:49:05] eaton. On behalf of -- in

[4:49:07] regard to item 94e, this issue

[4:49:09] is no longer partisan. It's

[4:49:11] about public trust and basic

[4:49:12] transparency. Across california

[4:49:13] neighboring counties are

[4:49:15] investing billions of dollars to

[4:49:16] reconnect people with the rivers

[4:49:19] and public spaces. Los angeles

[4:49:21] has committed over $1 billion to

[4:49:23] restore the L.A. River with

[4:49:25] strong emphasis on reducing

[4:49:27] pesticide use, improving habitat

[4:49:29] and creating places where

[4:49:31] families can gather with 20

[4:49:32] seconds left, let's see what I

[4:49:35] can show. Transparency is a

[4:49:36] critical part of that future for

[4:49:38] us and for you to leave a legacy

[4:49:40] in orange county where people

[4:49:43] can engage with their waterways.

[4:49:45] In 2025, a scientific paper

[4:49:48] that monsanto relied on for

[4:49:53] years to safeguard the guy foss

[4:49:55] say the and other pesticides

[4:49:57] were not toxic has been

[4:50:00] retracted. In 2026 in D.C. A

[4:50:02] bill was passed to prevent

[4:50:05] liability from giving -- from

[4:50:08] being given to monsanto on

[4:50:09] pesticides that they create.

[4:50:12] This is no longer partisan.

[4:50:14] This is bipartisan. I

[4:50:18] respectfully ask for your report

[4:50:20] on -- for your support on item

[4:50:20] 95.

[4:50:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[4:50:21] right. Thank you.

[4:50:21] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[4:50:23] brought this item back because

[4:50:26] residents continue to ask for

[4:50:27] basic transparency regarding

[4:50:29] herbicides or pest islands in

[4:50:31] public spaces. I have addressed

[4:50:34] the -- pesticides in public

[4:50:36] spaces. I take these concerns

[4:50:38] very seriously, of course. So

[4:50:41] this item is focused on public

[4:50:44] notice, not employee deployment

[4:50:46] details. It directs staff to

[4:50:48] develop a responsible noticing

[4:50:50] policy so residents can know the

[4:50:52] product being used, the purpose,

[4:50:53] the general area, the date range

[4:50:54] and who to contact for

[4:50:57] questions. We can provide that

[4:50:58] information without disclosing

[4:51:00] individual employee schedules or

[4:51:02] creating unnecessary risks for

[4:51:05] field staff. A public notice a

[4:51:06] reasonable request and a

[4:51:07] reasonable step that the county

[4:51:09] can take, especially as we move

[4:51:11] forward with the pilot projects

[4:51:14] at san juan and trabuco creek

[4:51:17] and review our integrated pest

[4:51:18] management plan. I think we can

[4:51:20] protect our close and still

[4:51:22] instill transparency with the

[4:51:24] public. With that, I move the

[4:51:24] item.

[4:51:25] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[4:51:26] supervisor sarmiento?

[4:51:27] >>vincente sarmiento: yes.

[4:51:29] Thank you, MR. Chair. You know,

[4:51:31] I'm supportive of the item. I

[4:51:32] just want to make sure, you

[4:51:34] know, we're clear there aren't

[4:51:36] any unintended consequences of

[4:51:39] this. The fact that, you know,

[4:51:41] it will have, you know, no

[4:51:44] impact that we're not looking

[4:51:46] at. So, you know, the whole

[4:51:50] idea of a feasible or

[4:51:51] reasonable, you know, definition

[4:51:54] of that, I'm not sure if

[4:51:56] MR. Onuma maybe can come forward

[4:51:59] and just walk us through some of

[4:52:05] this.. And MR. Onuma, as

[4:52:06] you're walking down, some of my

[4:52:08] concerns are just with, you

[4:52:11] know, delays, making sure that

[4:52:15] there's going to be consistent

[4:52:16] application, notices won't be

[4:52:18] selective or random. I'm just

[4:52:19] trying to see if there's

[4:52:22] anything that you see here. Do

[4:52:24] you think you covered everything

[4:52:29] that you MAY see on the horizon?

[4:52:30] >>speaker: CHAIRMAN Chaffee,

[4:52:33] members of the board, kevin

[4:52:35] onuma, orange county public

[4:52:37] works. If the policy is to

[4:52:39] develop this notice, if that's

[4:52:41] the policy decision, we're going

[4:52:42] to work up the details. I don't

[4:52:44] know what those details will

[4:52:46] look like. But, you know, this

[4:52:47] goes through, you know, all of

[4:52:52] the requirements. The location,

[4:52:54] product being used, so on.

[4:52:55] >>vincente sarmiento: is there

[4:52:57] anything that you see that isn't

[4:52:59] included in there that should be

[4:53:00] or maybe something that's

[4:53:02] included in there that should be

[4:53:07] removed or stricken?

[4:53:08] >>speaker: I don't think there's

[4:53:09] anything missing or anything

[4:53:11] else that needs to be added. As

[4:53:13] a part of this, a consideration

[4:53:14] that will make -- that we'll

[4:53:16] make is -- we'll have is whether

[4:53:19] or not we need look at measures

[4:53:23] for site security and/or staff

[4:53:25] safety. In case there's

[4:53:27] protests or anything like that.

[4:53:28] >>vincente sarmiento: so I guess

[4:53:30] what you're saying is that --

[4:53:32] could this notice trigger some

[4:53:35] dangerous condition for some of

[4:53:38] the staff or employees?

[4:53:38] >>speaker: it's possible but we

[4:53:40] don't know.

[4:53:41] >>vincente sarmiento: okay.

[4:53:45] That's true of anything, right,

[4:53:47] that we provide notice for. So

[4:53:48] what's your suggestion? How

[4:53:50] would you proceed, I guess, once

[4:53:52] this is expwhremented, assuming

[4:53:55] it does

[4:53:57] >>speaker: there was an

[4:53:58] application I think that was

[4:53:59] being done in APRIL and some

[4:54:01] members of the public showed up.

[4:54:03] My understanding is it went

[4:54:04] into an area that was close to

[4:54:07] the public. It was an access

[4:54:08] road that's closed. It's not

[4:54:10] the trail, and that people, you

[4:54:12] know, went into that closed-off

[4:54:14] area. So because of that, we've

[4:54:16] had discussions with the

[4:54:17] sheriff's department. We're

[4:54:20] looking into options for private

[4:54:21] security companies, and maybe it

[4:54:22] will pan out that we don't need

[4:54:25] it. But it's just an unknown

[4:54:27] right now.

[4:54:28] >>vincente sarmiento: okay. So,

[4:54:29] you know, I guess we want to do

[4:54:33] the right thing. I think the

[4:54:35] public certainly doesn't want to

[4:54:37] put the employees at risk. I

[4:54:38] don't think that's the goal. I

[4:54:39] think the goal is to make sure

[4:54:43] that the public has, you know,

[4:54:46] notice in advance of, you know,

[4:54:48] any sort of maintenance, any

[4:54:49] sort of, you know, spraying,

[4:54:50] anything else that could occur.

[4:54:53] But we have to balance it with

[4:54:53] the interest of the safety of

[4:54:55] the employees to make sure that

[4:54:57] nobody is going to be harmed,

[4:54:59] right, as they do their work.

[4:55:01] So that's my concern, is that we

[4:55:03] have to, you know -- it's not as

[4:55:07] easy as saying let's just do a

[4:55:09] noticing, you know, a public

[4:55:10] noticing requirement here. We

[4:55:13] also want to make sure that, you

[4:55:15] know, we anticipate and forecast

[4:55:16] the potential cost of making

[4:55:19] sure that we ensure the safety

[4:55:20] of the staff and employees who

[4:55:22] will be working at the site.

[4:55:24] And I'm not sure if that's been,

[4:55:26] you know, documented or has that

[4:55:28] been, you know -- has that been

[4:55:30] part of the analysis here, is

[4:55:33] that something you plan to do?

[4:55:34] >>speaker: it's part of what we

[4:55:36] plan to do. It's a part of

[4:55:40] this. We're also looking at --

[4:55:41] noticing that other counties or

[4:55:43] special districts or agencies

[4:55:45] do, because, you know, we can

[4:55:47] learn a lot by looking at what

[4:55:50] other do. So that will be a

[4:55:53] part of us developing this

[4:55:54] >>vincente sarmiento: that's

[4:55:56] great. As we work on this going

[4:55:58] forward, again, I'm supportive.

[4:55:59] I just think that there's a lot

[4:56:00] of questions, and I would ask to

[4:56:04] you look at what, you know,

[4:56:04] quantifying maybe some

[4:56:06] anticipated costs in the event

[4:56:08] that you see some safety

[4:56:09] measures that need to be

[4:56:12] included. Also, just making

[4:56:13] sure that if there are any

[4:56:16] delays that are going to be

[4:56:17] caused as a result of the

[4:56:19] noticing as well. And

[4:56:21] anything -- any other

[4:56:22] contingencies that you MAY see

[4:56:23] here. But thank you.

[4:56:26] Appreciate the responses..

[4:56:28] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[4:56:28] supervisor nguyen

[4:56:29] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[4:56:31] MR. CHAIRMAN. Do we currently

[4:56:35] provide any notice?

[4:56:37] >>speaker: there is notice

[4:56:40] required by the department of

[4:56:42] pesticide regulation

[4:56:45] >>janet nguyen: so we do --

[4:56:45] because there's a statement that

[4:56:48] says that we don't provide any

[4:56:51] notices at all. My

[4:56:53] understanding is we do within

[4:56:56] the regulation of the department

[4:56:58] of pesticide regulation, which

[4:56:59] requires us to provide advanced

[4:57:01] notice to any individual who MAY

[4:57:04] enter the treated area.

[4:57:04] Correct?

[4:57:12] >>speaker: I believe that the

[4:57:13] --

[4:57:16] >>speaker: hi, edward fondoso,

[4:57:19] oc public works. One notice is

[4:57:21] the annual notification to any

[4:57:22] public agencies that MAY enter

[4:57:23] the work area, and then there's

[4:57:25] a second notification required

[4:57:28] for any individuals who MAY

[4:57:30] enter the work area

[4:57:31] >>janet nguyen: so it's not that

[4:57:34] we don't. Now, this proposal is

[4:57:37] adding additional notification.

[4:57:39] So I just want to make sure that

[4:57:40] we're -- it's clarified that

[4:57:42] there is current notification.

[4:57:47] Might not be what -- be liked.

[4:57:49] And so that's what you're look

[4:57:51] at. And then the public is

[4:57:52] currently restricted from going

[4:57:54] to the bottom of the flood

[4:57:56] control channels, correct?

[4:58:03] Because it's unsafe, right?

[4:58:05] >>speaker: that's correct. Yes.

[4:58:07] >>janet nguyen: that's it.

[4:58:10] Thank you.

[4:58:11] >>don wagner: we already provide

[4:58:13] notice. I'm not sure what the

[4:58:14] problem is we're here trying to

[4:58:17] solve because we already provide

[4:58:19] notice under probably both

[4:58:21] federal and state permits. And

[4:58:23] we're spraying them in areas

[4:58:25] where the public is not allowed

[4:58:28] to go. And we have experience

[4:58:33] in this county with the

[4:58:34] public -- the creek team

[4:58:36] members, I believe it was, going

[4:58:39] into the channels to harass and

[4:58:42] stop spraying that we were doing

[4:58:44] there. So all we're doing is

[4:58:45] giving them another opportunity

[4:58:48] to know when and where and

[4:58:52] harass our staff, and a make

[4:58:54] county has had protestors who

[4:58:58] have disrupted the spraying, to

[4:59:01] my understanding. Is that

[4:59:01] right?

[4:59:02] >>speaker: I'm not aware of

[4:59:04] whatever's going on in the

[4:59:05] neighboring counties.

[4:59:08] >>don wagner: so the -- what do

[4:59:13] we get with this policy besides

[4:59:15] more potential cost for

[4:59:18] enforcement when we -- we

[4:59:20] already give the notices out

[4:59:21] because they're required under

[4:59:23] the permits?

[4:59:24] >>speaker: so to clarify about

[4:59:25] the notice, it's an annual

[4:59:27] notice that's done. And then

[4:59:28] because of the treatments that

[4:59:30] we do are on the bottom of the

[4:59:35] channel, which is no trespassing

[4:59:37] areas, basically the

[4:59:39] notifications that we do is

[4:59:42] mainly to, I think the vector

[4:59:43] control district, because they

[4:59:45] have the authority, ability to

[4:59:48] go into areas like that, even

[4:59:49] though they're marked as no

[4:59:51] trespassing. But in general,

[4:59:53] there's no general noticing

[4:59:54] other than the annual notice

[4:59:56] because it's in the close-off

[4:59:57] area

[4:59:59] >>don wagner: there's no public

[5:00:00] >>speaker: yes

[5:00:01] >>don wagner: all right. Well,

[5:00:03] what about this we're spraying

[5:00:05] it within 10 feet or 5 feet and

[5:00:06] the wind blowing

[5:00:07] >>speaker: so because of that,

[5:00:09] and supervisor foley brought

[5:00:12] this up, we're looking at -- I

[5:00:14] don't know if we've implemented

[5:00:16] it yet because we haven't

[5:00:18] resumed herbicide work. We're

[5:00:21] looking at notices to put up on

[5:00:27] any adjacent public trails that

[5:00:29] we're working in an adjacent

[5:00:31] area. But that's more for

[5:00:33] information like informational

[5:00:33] signs

[5:00:34] >>don wagner: so what do we get

[5:00:41] with this policy? Just what the

[5:00:44] speaker said, increased

[5:00:44] transparency

[5:00:45] >>don wagner: but you're working

[5:00:46] on that notice anyway

[5:00:48] >>speaker: it's an annual notice

[5:00:49] that we do --

[5:00:52] >>don wagner: this is non-public

[5:00:53] areas

[5:01:00] >>speaker: yes.

[5:01:01] >>chair, don wagner: okay. You

[5:01:05] can't say what we get other than

[5:01:05] the --

[5:01:06] >>don wagner: you can't say what

[5:01:10] we get other than the extra

[5:01:15] costs? Thank you...

[5:01:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: back to

[5:01:17] vice-chair.

[5:01:18] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[5:01:21] you, MR. Onuma. I -- you know,

[5:01:24] we have expressed concern about

[5:01:26] the guerrilla tactics that were

[5:01:27] being used. And part of the

[5:01:29] reason why I'm bringing this

[5:01:32] forward is so that we can

[5:01:35] prevent that type of response.

[5:01:38] And a lot of what I've been

[5:01:40] hearing is that people are sort

[5:01:41] of taking the measures into

[5:01:43] their own hands, which we don't

[5:01:45] want them to do, because they

[5:01:48] don't have notice and they just

[5:01:49] suddenly see people out there

[5:01:51] spraying, and they haven't had a

[5:01:53] chance to avoid the area as an

[5:01:56] example. So this board, we

[5:01:58] pride ourselves on transparency

[5:02:01] and disclosure. The notice that

[5:02:03] is being used currently as you

[5:02:04] indicated is only going to the

[5:02:07] vector controller to maybe some

[5:02:09] public agencies, and I think

[5:02:12] it's by email, right? Or

[5:02:14] maybe -- like by mail. It's not

[5:02:17] a public noticing where the

[5:02:18] public would have knowledge

[5:02:22] about that. Is that right? Is

[5:02:24] that a yes? Yeah. Okay. And

[5:02:27] so that's what this agenda item

[5:02:31] is intended to solve for, is to

[5:02:34] get the public notice, because a

[5:02:36] good example -- the san juan

[5:02:38] creek. If there were to be

[5:02:41] herbicides sprayed there, along

[5:02:44] that bike trail, walking trail,

[5:02:46] right behind it is residential

[5:02:47] neighborhoods. Their backyards.

[5:02:48] I mean, it's very tight.

[5:02:51] You're talking about a 5 foot,

[5:02:54] 10 foot setback between where

[5:02:57] there might be work being done

[5:03:00] that caused herbicides to be

[5:03:02] sprayed in the public area. And

[5:03:03] so I think that was the concern

[5:03:06] that people had, is that there

[5:03:07] was no notice to give them an

[5:03:09] opportunity to avoid the area

[5:03:13] even if they wanted to. So I'm

[5:03:14] hopeful that my colleagues can

[5:03:17] sport item and direct staff to

[5:03:20] develop the noticing

[5:03:21] requirements. It's not going to

[5:03:24] hurt to have the public

[5:03:27] notified. This is a concern

[5:03:29] that the public has started to

[5:03:33] express more and more. We had

[5:03:34] been using chemicals as if they

[5:03:37] were okay because someone said

[5:03:38] they were okay. And I think

[5:03:40] that the science is changing,

[5:03:42] and it's not okay. And so

[5:03:44] giving people the notice to

[5:03:45] allow them to make decisions

[5:03:46] about their own lives is

[5:03:47] something that I would support,

[5:03:49] and I hope my colleagues do, as

[5:03:52] well. With that, I move the

[5:03:52] item..

[5:03:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: I think

[5:03:56] we've got a second all right.

[5:03:58] Yeah. We did. Supervisor

[5:03:59] wagner?

[5:04:00] >>don wagner: I'll just start by

[5:04:03] saying it is just, in my mind,

[5:04:05] patent nonsense that these

[5:04:06] guerrilla tactics that our

[5:04:07] employees have suffered through

[5:04:10] is because of a lack of notice.

[5:04:11] No, it's because of the

[5:04:12] spraying. And the spray

[5:04:13] something done pursuant to state

[5:04:15] and federal law. The spray

[5:04:17] something done at levels that

[5:04:18] are below what state and federal

[5:04:19] law permit, and the spray

[5:04:21] something done in places that

[5:04:25] the public is exexplicitly

[5:04:26] excluded from because it is

[5:04:27] dangerous. It is dangerous not

[5:04:29] just because of these chemicals,

[5:04:30] but for lots of other reasons.

[5:04:33] So the idea that notices are

[5:04:35] somehow going to say, all right,

[5:04:36] if you've given me notice, you

[5:04:38] can go ahead and spray all of

[5:04:39] these pesticides, I mean, that

[5:04:43] is just patently false and a

[5:04:44] will.

[5:04:45] Misreading of what has been

[5:04:49] going on out in the creeks. It

[5:04:50] also sounds to me like public

[5:04:51] works is trying to come up with

[5:04:55] a notice that is in addition to

[5:04:56] and supplemental of what is

[5:04:57] required under state and federal

[5:04:59] law. Great. I would encourage

[5:05:02] them to do that. I guess this

[5:05:05] item provides some formalism for

[5:05:08] that effort. So, you know, all

[5:05:09] right. More notice. More

[5:05:12] transparency. Fine. What I do

[5:05:15] worry about is that it gives the

[5:05:18] bad actors out there the

[5:05:20] opportunities to target our

[5:05:22] employees. I'm a little bit

[5:05:24] more robust -- they target our

[5:05:25] employees a little bit more

[5:05:26] robustly, a little bit more

[5:05:27] deliberately because they'll

[5:05:28] have knowledge of where they

[5:05:29] will be and when they will be

[5:05:31] there. But at the end of the

[5:05:32] day, if the public is looking

[5:05:35] for this notice and if our staff

[5:05:37] is going to try to develop

[5:05:38] something in nifnt, we might as

[5:05:41] well do this. It is a solution

[5:05:44] in search of a problem. It is

[5:05:46] potentially increasing danger to

[5:05:50] our workforce, but public works

[5:05:52] is gonna do it. Let's do it and

[5:05:54] see how it works out. We can

[5:05:58] always revisit it later..

[5:05:59] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[5:06:00] supervisor sarmiento?

[5:06:01] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

[5:06:02] MR. Chair. I'll be brief. As

[5:06:05] we look at this again, and I do

[5:06:07] think that the notice that right

[5:06:09] now is -- or that we do, which

[5:06:11] is an annual, is insufficient in

[5:06:12] my opinion. I think, you know,

[5:06:15] we do want to improve on that.

[5:06:17] That is a very low bar. But I

[5:06:20] think if we can work on this

[5:06:20] whole -- you know, I think the

[5:06:22] premise of this makes sense.

[5:06:24] I'm supportive. But I think

[5:06:25] it's a little unclear, and it's

[5:06:29] a little vague when it comes to

[5:06:31] public notice where feasible. I

[5:06:32] don't know what that means. So

[5:06:35] if we can just get some clarity

[5:06:37] on that, you know, as we go

[5:06:40] through this, just so we're, you

[5:06:41] know -- so we have a better

[5:06:44] understanding, it's not quite so

[5:06:45] ambiguous, but certainly is

[5:06:46] something that to me is

[5:06:50] important. So thank you..

[5:06:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[5:06:54] right. My own comments, I share

[5:06:56] the concerns about employees

[5:06:59] being harassed and ask county

[5:07:01] counsel do we have any

[5:07:03] protective ordinances should our

[5:07:04] employees be larked? If you

[5:07:07] don't know, that's fine we can

[5:07:18] get to that later.

[5:07:20] >>leon page: protective

[5:07:21] ordinances, I'm not aware of

[5:07:23] anything like that. If a crime

[5:07:25] occurred in connection with

[5:07:27] ongoing spraying, the deputy

[5:07:28] sheriffs on site or the

[5:07:29] sheriff's department in general

[5:07:29] would get involved.

[5:07:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. We

[5:07:33] MAY look at that as well. So I

[5:07:36] think the concept is a little

[5:07:37] different than they had no

[5:07:39] notices which are not public

[5:07:41] notices at all really. So I

[5:07:43] think something here is needed.

[5:07:45] But I'm not sure how extensive

[5:07:48] it needs to be. But I will go

[5:07:53] along with this and approve it.

[5:07:55] We'll see if it comes back.

[5:07:57] This is not the -- we have to

[5:07:58] come back and approve it, I

[5:08:01] assume. It's not just the final

[5:08:03] product, but you develop it, in

[5:08:04] order for it to be effective, it

[5:08:06] has to come back. I think

[5:08:07] that's intention along with all

[5:08:09] of the other studies you're

[5:08:11] doing anyway. So do we need --

[5:08:15] have a descent here? Okay. All

[5:08:16] right. It's been moved and

[5:08:18] seconded. Is there any

[5:08:20] objection? All right. It does

[5:08:22] pass unanimously. Thank you.

[5:08:30] We go on to supplement 94f.

[5:08:31] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94f.

[5:08:32] Under sheriff-coroner-approve

[5:08:32] amendment 1 to renew contract

[5:08:33] ma-060-25010599 with waters

[5:08:33] technologies corporation dba

[5:08:34] waters chromatography corp. For

[5:08:35] service, preventative

[5:08:35] maintenance and consumables for

[5:08:36] orange county crime lab's liquid

[5:08:37] chromatography mass

[5:08:38] spectrometers, 7/14/26-7/13/27

[5:08:39] ($325,000; cumulative total

[5:08:40] $625,000); renewable for three

[5:08:41] additional one-year terms; and

[5:08:42] authorize county procurement

[5:08:43] officer or deputized designee to

[5:08:46] execute amendment

[5:08:49] we have no requests to speak on

[5:08:50] s94f

[5:08:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

[5:08:53] district 2 item. Any objection?

[5:08:56] Motion carries. 94g.

[5:08:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94g.

[5:08:58] Under supervisor wagner-orange

[5:08:58] county human relations

[5:09:01] commission-appoint ilana

[5:09:03] meirovitch, coto de caza, for

[5:09:05] term concurrent with 3rd

[5:09:05] district supervisor'

[5:09:06] s term of

[5:09:06] office (Click for files)

[5:09:11] S94h. Supervisor wagner-

[5:09:13] -- we have no requests to speak

[5:09:15] on s94g

[5:09:17] >>don wagner: this is to replace

[5:09:18] rabbi steinberg on the

[5:09:19] commission. I want to thank him

[5:09:23] again for his service and thank

[5:09:25] MS. M for stepping up and thank

[5:09:27] d5 for concurrence on this one.

[5:09:29] I'll move the item.

[5:09:30] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[5:09:31] second. I really enjoyed

[5:09:34] working with ilana

[5:09:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[5:09:37] seconded. Seeing no objection.

[5:09:43] Item is approved.. Supplement

[5:09:51] 94j.

[5:09:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94j.

[5:09:52] Under chair chaffee-orange

[5:09:53] county workforce development

[5:09:54] board-appoint anastasia rose

[5:09:54] zamora-ortiz, yucaipa, to

[5:09:55] complete term ending 12/31/27;

[5:09:56] and approve waiver of residency

[5:09:56] requirements (Click for files)

[5:09:57] S94k. Oc waste & recycling-

[5:09:58] approve amendments to exclusive

[5:09:58] franchise agreements for

[5:09:59] discarded materials management

[5:09:59] services; and authorize director

[5:10:00] or designee to execute

[5:10:01] amendments and make minor

[5:10:02] changes under certain conditions

[5:10:05] we have no requests to speak.

[5:10:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is

[5:10:08] my item, I'll move it. Moved

[5:10:09] and seconded. Any objection?

[5:10:11] Item is approved. Thank you.

[5:10:25] We go to supplement 94k.

[5:10:26] S94k. Oc waste & recycling-

[5:10:26] approve amendments to exclusive

[5:10:27] franchise agreements for

[5:10:27] discarded materials management

[5:10:28] services; and authorize director

[5:10:29] or designee to execute

[5:10:29] amendments and make minor

[5:10:32] changes under certain conditions

[5:10:34] we have no requests to speak.

[5:10:35] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[5:10:36] all-district item. Moved and

[5:10:38] seconded. Any objection? Item

[5:10:49] is approved. Supplement 94v.

[5:10:50] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94v.

[5:10:51] Under clerk of the board-

[5:10:51] approve revised board of

[5:10:52] supervisor's rules of procedure

[5:10:53] to include new brown act

[5:10:55] requirements and other

[5:10:57] administrative changes. We have

[5:11:01] no requests to speak. Is.

[5:11:02] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[5:11:03] vice-chair foley.

[5:11:04] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: rule

[5:11:06] number 48 is being proposed to

[5:11:07] be updated to reduce the comment

[5:11:08] time from three minutes to 2

[5:11:10] minutes. However, I think that

[5:11:12] should be left to the discretion

[5:11:13] of the chair, like it currently

[5:11:16] is now, instead of it being

[5:11:17] codified. We should keep it at

[5:11:20] three minutes, in other words.

[5:11:20] .

[5:11:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[5:11:23] right. What do we say as to

[5:11:25] that, other supervisors?

[5:11:27] Supervisor wagner?

[5:11:28] >>don wagner: well, having

[5:11:30] this -- this has been thought

[5:11:32] through, looked at, I don't have

[5:11:34] a problem with that change. And

[5:11:39] it is always at distress of the

[5:11:41] chair to cut or, I suppose, can

[5:11:42] expand in cases where

[5:11:45] appropriate. So I don't see a

[5:11:48] point to pick any of these rules

[5:11:49] individually. I'd leave it as

[5:11:49] propped.

[5:11:51] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

[5:11:52] withdraw my second.

[5:11:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[5:11:56] second as proposed. Any other

[5:11:57] comments.

[5:11:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no.

[5:12:00] I withdraw my second because I

[5:12:01] don't support codifying that we

[5:12:03] will go from 3 minutes to 2

[5:12:06] minutes, and that becomes the

[5:12:07] new rule. Everyone gets 2

[5:12:09] minutes and then the chair has

[5:12:10] discretion whether they get

[5:12:14] less. So that's why.

[5:12:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: the chair

[5:12:19] could make it more too. All

[5:12:20] right. I will second the item.

[5:12:23] Is there any objection?

[5:12:26] Vice-chair, do you wish to

[5:12:26] register a no.

[5:12:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,

[5:12:29] I'll register a no on that. Can

[5:12:32] I register a no on that section

[5:12:35] or do I vote no on the whole

[5:12:36] thing? Because I support the

[5:12:37] change. I mean, it's state law.

[5:12:38] We have to change it. The only

[5:12:41] thing we're not changing as it

[5:12:41] relates to state law is that

[5:12:42] we've reduced the time that the

[5:12:44] public has to talk to us, which

[5:12:46] I don't support.

[5:12:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. Is

[5:12:49] that all right just to note that

[5:12:52] objection to that?

[5:12:54] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes

[5:12:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: so noted.

[5:12:56] Supervisor sarmiento?

[5:12:57] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

[5:12:59] you, MR. Chair. I'm going to

[5:13:02] also on the record oppose that

[5:13:04] change for the time limit for

[5:13:06] speakers to have. To me,th

[5:13:08] always when you reduce it, much

[5:13:09] more difficult to expand the

[5:13:10] time for people to speak rather

[5:13:12] than contract it. So I'd rather

[5:13:14] have our default be three

[5:13:17] minutes as we've always had that

[5:13:18] standard at most public

[5:13:21] meetings. We will be an outlier

[5:13:22] again to reduce it to 2. If we

[5:13:24] need to go to 2 just like we had

[5:13:27] to today, we had to go to 1,

[5:13:28] that's up to the chair's

[5:13:29] discretion when we had a very

[5:13:30] busy agenda. So I don't agree

[5:13:33] we having our default contracted

[5:13:35] from three minutes to 2..

[5:13:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: back to

[5:13:37] supervisor wagner

[5:13:39] >>don wagner: briefly, this

[5:13:41] didn't come out of the blue.

[5:13:43] The fact is state law has

[5:13:46] changed, requiring a much more

[5:13:49] robust, interactive, virtual

[5:13:52] opportunity to speak. And

[5:13:54] supervisor nguyen and I both

[5:13:56] have had an opportunity for

[5:13:58] example to serve on the south

[5:13:58] coast air quality management

[5:13:59] district where they have for a

[5:14:03] long time allowed that type of

[5:14:05] participation, and you can have

[5:14:07] public comments that reach up to

[5:14:09] four and five hours, in my

[5:14:11] experience. And you've been

[5:14:12] there a little bit longer. And

[5:14:14] so what we're trying to do here,

[5:14:16] what make the most sense to me,

[5:14:19] is -- because when we cut down

[5:14:22] the amount of time, we always

[5:14:24] get speakers who are -- you

[5:14:26] know, we had two that needed to

[5:14:28] be removed by the sheriff at our

[5:14:30] last meeting. And so set bar at

[5:14:34] 2 because we've got a whole new

[5:14:37] environment with these virtual

[5:14:38] call-ins, evaluate it after a

[5:14:39] certain period if we want to.

[5:14:41] We can always do that. But we

[5:14:45] are much better off, in my

[5:14:46] mind -- and the reason for the

[5:14:48] rule change, is that we're going

[5:14:50] to have a new environment. And

[5:14:54] what we don't want to do is

[5:14:55] unnecessarily cause people to

[5:14:57] say, oh, you're just shutting me

[5:14:58] down or have to have a sheriff

[5:15:00] come out or have to hang up on

[5:15:02] somebody. We try to avoid all

[5:15:04] of those problems by being

[5:15:06] proactive right now and, if more

[5:15:09] time is needed or if there

[5:15:10] aren't the volume of speakers

[5:15:12] that some people worry about, we

[5:15:16] can deal with it on the fly..

[5:15:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[5:15:18] you, supervisor nguyen?

[5:15:20] >>janet nguyen: thank you,

[5:15:25] MR. CHAIRMAN. I actually on the

[5:15:27] mindset of allowing the chair to

[5:15:29] make that discretion and/or

[5:15:33] maybe we talked about the online

[5:15:36] because supervisor wagner is

[5:15:38] correct, at aqmd we have

[5:15:39] sometimes the difference between

[5:15:41] public speaking timeframe and

[5:15:43] also online. We did -- had a

[5:15:46] meeting that went for six hours,

[5:15:48] and two or three hours of that

[5:15:50] was just online. And people

[5:15:52] called from all over the state

[5:15:54] of california, not just in the

[5:15:55] effected area that we represent

[5:16:00] at aqmd but all over california,

[5:16:01] all overnight nation, as well.

[5:16:03] And so I think, you know,

[5:16:05] allowing the CHAIRMAN Of or

[5:16:07] CHAIRWOMAN To make that decision

[5:16:10] moving forward, I would be more

[5:16:13] comfortable and not capped us

[5:16:13] immediately at this time and

[5:16:15] have that flexibility whether,

[5:16:17] you know, when we do transition

[5:16:19] to the new system, having it

[5:16:21] online, as well, as to allow the

[5:16:23] chair to decide, okay, if it's,

[5:16:25] you know -- we've -- I've

[5:16:27] actually been on, I think it was

[5:16:30] like 30 seconds at aqmd because

[5:16:31] we had hundreds and hundreds of

[5:16:36] people calling in. I think it

[5:16:38] should be up to the discretion

[5:16:39] of the chair. And so I'm not

[5:16:42] opposed to the two. I'm not

[5:16:45] opposed to the three, but I

[5:16:46] cannot -- I don't want to go to

[5:16:47] just capping it at two right

[5:16:49] now. I think we stay where

[5:16:51] we're at and then allow the

[5:16:54] chair to make that discretion.

[5:16:54] .

[5:16:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[5:16:57] Well, I'm not sure where we're

[5:17:00] at. I support the 2 minutes.

[5:17:02] Because you can't tell when

[5:17:05] people call in how long they

[5:17:06] might speak. You probably

[5:17:09] didn't hear the admonition in

[5:17:10] the first place. So I think

[5:17:13] some standard should be there.

[5:17:15] And I've been involved in

[5:17:17] meetings too where we have

[5:17:18] people calling in and now it has

[5:17:20] to be online, and it's more than

[5:17:23] that, you have to make certain

[5:17:24] the connections there.

[5:17:26] Sometimes you have a delay in

[5:17:27] even making the connection. So

[5:17:29] it takes a lot more time to do

[5:17:39] these kinds things.. Back to

[5:17:40] vice-chair.

[5:17:41] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'm

[5:17:42] not concerned about cutting off

[5:17:44] the person at designated time.

[5:17:45] It's actually easier to do

[5:17:48] online. The city of costa mesa

[5:17:49] during the pandemic, we went to

[5:17:50] online and they have remained

[5:17:52] online. And sometimes they have

[5:17:54] one person show up. Sometimes

[5:17:56] they have 20. Just depends on

[5:17:57] the issue at council meeting.

[5:17:59] But the way the system is set up

[5:18:02] is that it automatically cuts

[5:18:05] off at the 3-minute mark

[5:18:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: no, they

[5:18:09] have to -- you have to remind

[5:18:09] them.

[5:18:10] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: the

[5:18:12] clerk cuts it off automatically

[5:18:14] at 3 minute mark.

[5:18:15] >>chair, doug chaffee: that's

[5:18:16] not what we're doing here.

[5:18:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,

[5:18:19] that seems to me that that's

[5:18:21] what most all of the other

[5:18:23] organizations that utilize

[5:18:26] online, they have an automatic

[5:18:32] cut-off -- is that right,

[5:18:34] MS. Styleler?

[5:18:35] >>clerk, robin stieler: the

[5:18:37] virtual calls does not have an

[5:18:38] automatic but we will have a

[5:18:39] timer to monitor the time where

[5:18:44] I can stop the speaker at the

[5:18:44] time.

[5:18:46] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

[5:18:48] then you or your staff can

[5:18:50] automatically move to the next

[5:18:50] person

[5:19:03] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes.

[5:19:06] >>leon page: and the L.A. County

[5:19:08] board of supervisors only allows

[5:19:09] 1 minute.

[5:19:11] >>clerk, robin stieler: there's

[5:19:12] no designation. It's the same

[5:19:13] across the board.

[5:19:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have a

[5:19:17] motion to accept the document as

[5:19:18] presented and a couple

[5:19:20] supervisors who object to one

[5:19:23] part of the item. So I don't

[5:19:25] know. Do we need to call the

[5:19:27] roll here? Go ahead, call the

[5:19:28] roll. We have a motion, moved

[5:19:38] and seconded.. There's 3 of us

[5:19:40] who want to keep it at three

[5:19:40] minutes

[5:19:41] >>don wagner: I'll withdraw.

[5:19:42] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

[5:19:43] I'll move the recommended

[5:19:47] action with three minutes..

[5:19:48] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay, I

[5:19:51] will object to that myself, to

[5:19:55] that part of the item. But the

[5:19:59] rest I agree to. And looks like

[5:20:02] we have un anymore mitt on all

[5:20:04] of the rest. So with that,

[5:20:08] we'll move on, unanimity on all

[5:20:21] of the rest. Supplement 94x.

[5:20:22] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94x.

[5:20:23] Under supervisor sarmiento-

[5:20:23] orange county cemetery district

[5:20:25] -appoint donna marsh peery, tustin,

[5:20:27] to complete term ending 1/3/28

[5:20:29] and we have no requests to

[5:20:30] speak.

[5:20:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

[5:20:33] seconded, any objection? Item

[5:20:35] is approved. We come to

[5:20:38] supplement 94z.

[5:20:38] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94z.

[5:20:39] Under county executive office-

[5:20:40] approve new ground lease

[5:20:40] agreements with dphp hotels, llc

[5:20:41] including full service hotel

[5:20:42] ground lease and select-service

[5:20:43] hotel ground lease for hotel

[5:20:43] component, with dana point

[5:20:44] harbor partners, llc for

[5:20:46] commercial core and marina component,

[5:20:46] and with dana point harbor

[5:20:47] partners drystack, llc for

[5:20:48] drystack components of dana

[5:20:49] point harbor revitalization

[5:20:49] project, 66-year terms; approve

[5:20:50] memorandum of understanding

[5:20:51] (Mou) With dana point harbor

[5:20:52] partners, llc for intention to

[5:20:54] negotiate lease and lease

[5:20:56] amendment at oc sailing & events

[5:20:57] center within 180 days; and

[5:20:59] authorize chief real estate

[5:21:04] officer or designee to

[5:21:07] execute lease agreements,

[5:21:11] amendments, mou and related

[5:21:18] documents under certain conditions

[5:21:20] and MR. Chair, we've received

[5:21:28] six requests to speak on s94z..

[5:21:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: please

[5:21:33] call the speakers

[5:21:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: mayor

[5:21:38] john gabard and eubanks and lisa

[5:21:42] h, please come forward.

[5:21:47] >>speaker: chair, supervisors,

[5:21:49] I'm john cab done, mayor of dana

[5:21:51] point. The harbor is owned by

[5:21:53] all of us but managed by and

[5:21:56] governed by u-5, and I need your

[5:21:58] help. I'm here in support of

[5:21:59] advancing the dana point harbors

[5:22:01] hotel projects. The hotels

[5:22:03] represent a major economic

[5:22:04] opportunity for the county and

[5:22:05] the city of dana point. Beyond

[5:22:07] the revenue this project will

[5:22:09] generate jobs and increase

[5:22:11] economic activity and elevate

[5:22:13] dana point's harbor in what is

[5:22:15] poseed to be a premier harbor

[5:22:17] for the west coast. I must

[5:22:18] express my concern that with the

[5:22:20] proposed hotel lease access

[5:22:22] right provision, quite simply

[5:22:24] the provision threatens to

[5:22:25] deliver these hotels and will

[5:22:28] cause an $80 million loss in

[5:22:29] dana point revenues. We have

[5:22:31] seen abuse by county officials

[5:22:32] and county employees before in

[5:22:34] the harbor hotels. That history

[5:22:36] underscores the need for clear,

[5:22:38] enforceable standards to prevent

[5:22:40] abuse and misuse. Accordingly,

[5:22:44] I respectfully urge the board to

[5:22:47] support the hotel changes and

[5:22:49] revise the hotel lease to align

[5:22:51] with the market standards

[5:22:52] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[5:22:55] you, sir.

[5:22:59] >>speaker: thank you.

[5:23:03] >>speaker: I'm anne eubanks from

[5:23:05] allysa viejo. I'm PRESIDENT Of

[5:23:08] the dana point boaters

[5:23:08] association. I had some

[5:23:09] comments to make on the lease

[5:23:11] today but decided for

[5:23:15] clarification of transparency of

[5:23:18] the board, wanted to pose two

[5:23:21] questions. This agenda item was

[5:23:23] supposedly added late friday

[5:23:24] afternoon, but when checking the

[5:23:28] agenda on sunday on the board of

[5:23:29] supervisors' web site to didn't

[5:23:31] show up. It wasn't until monday

[5:23:32] morning, yesterday, that it

[5:23:33] could be viewed by the public.

[5:23:37] My question is, does this meet

[5:23:38] brown act requirements if it's

[5:23:40] not viewable by the public

[5:23:42] within 72 hours of the meeting?

[5:23:45] And since this is a 66-year

[5:23:47] lease of public land use, I

[5:23:48] believe extended notice is

[5:23:50] required of 10-plus days or

[5:23:52] more. Can you advise what was

[5:23:54] the procedure used for extended

[5:23:57] proper notification? Using

[5:23:59] supervisor sarmiento's words,

[5:24:01] this agenda item up here appears

[5:24:04] to be all 11th hour. If

[5:24:07] improper notice was used, then

[5:24:09] this could invalidate actions

[5:24:11] today. So I don't.

[5:24:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[5:24:12] you, ma'am.

[5:24:15] >>speaker: thank you.

[5:24:17] >>clerk, robin stieler: and the

[5:24:18] last three speakers, please come

[5:24:22] forward, kate, joe, and bob

[5:24:24] olson.

[5:24:25] >>speaker: you are asking this

[5:24:28] board to approve a 66-year

[5:24:29] master ground lease, a decision

[5:24:32] that will define the harbor for

[5:24:33] two generations after dropping

[5:24:35] the documents on the public at

[5:24:37] 7:22 A.M. The monday before the

[5:24:38] meeting with the excuse that

[5:24:40] they were still being finalized.

[5:24:42] Let's be clear, this is not

[5:24:43] governance. This is a

[5:24:46] deliberate attempt to bypass

[5:24:47] public scrutiny. I have

[5:24:49] reviewed the minutes for every

[5:24:50] dana point harbor oversight

[5:24:53] advisory committee meeting in

[5:24:54] 2026. This committee is touted

[5:24:57] by the fifth district as the

[5:25:00] central hub for transparency. I

[5:25:03] saw nothing in there about

[5:25:04] combining all four of these

[5:25:08] contracts into one signing here

[5:25:11] today. We need leadership in

[5:25:15] district 5 that restores

[5:25:17] accountability. I am submitting

[5:25:19] a formal request for due

[5:25:23] diligence regarding item s94z.

[5:25:24] I'm demanding you explain why

[5:25:26] the oversight committee was

[5:25:28] bypassed and why this 66-year

[5:25:30] deal is being rushed through

[5:25:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[5:25:31] you.

[5:25:36] >>speaker: thank you.

[5:25:39] >>speaker: hello. I'm joe, the

[5:25:41] marine partner of dana point

[5:25:43] harbor partners. We're really

[5:25:45] excited about this project. We

[5:25:46] have a goal of being completed

[5:25:48] before the olympics, and that's

[5:25:52] the goal of this item here. It

[5:25:54] allows us to preserve the grand

[5:25:55] pries we have with our current

[5:25:57] lender, pack life, and allows us

[5:25:59] to move forward with the hotels.

[5:26:01] i look forward to your support.

[5:26:02] Thank you..

[5:26:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

[5:26:08] you.

[5:26:11] >>speaker: good morning. This

[5:26:12] county has made a total disaster

[5:26:13] of the renovations of the

[5:26:18] harbor. It has become dana

[5:26:19] point's train to nowhere. From

[5:26:20] the beginning it took years to

[5:26:22] approve the design, then they

[5:26:25] selected design that has no

[5:26:28] architectural integrity, which

[5:26:29] is to the area which is a

[5:26:33] travesty. The cost overruns and

[5:26:35] decisions to outsource

[5:26:36] construction of the moorings is

[5:26:38] another example of fraud and

[5:26:41] waste. The uncertainty and

[5:26:44] delays to businesses and marine

[5:26:45] communities has been devastated.

[5:26:47] Now they want to give away more

[5:26:48] money due to their

[5:26:51] mismanagement. The board of

[5:26:52] supervisors have been

[5:26:54] responsible for all of this for

[5:27:01] the past 15 years. Thank you.

[5:27:04] >>speaker: hi, my name is bob

[5:27:07] olson. I am the -- one of

[5:27:09] partners of dana point harbor

[5:27:11] partners, rd olson, and in

[5:27:13] charge of hotels. Just to tell

[5:27:15] you a little bit, one of our

[5:27:17] hotels -- both of our hotels

[5:27:18] have gone through coastal

[5:27:19] commission, six years through

[5:27:23] the process. We have -- are

[5:27:24] providing one of the hotels as

[5:27:26] an affordable rate hotel, which

[5:27:28] is rate restricted, will be the

[5:27:31] first privately-financed hotel

[5:27:33] such like that. Additionally,

[5:27:36] we are providing social justice

[5:27:38] programs through our hotels at

[5:27:39] the site. Also working with the

[5:27:42] county on that. There is one

[5:27:46] provision that we're requesting

[5:27:50] to remove from our -- the lease.

[5:27:51] I think it's reasonable

[5:27:53] request. We do not have a

[5:27:54] lender on board yet, and we will

[5:27:56] need to have their support to

[5:27:57] make this happen. Thank you.

[5:27:59] >>clerk, robin stieler: no

[5:28:00] further speakers, MR. Chair..

[5:28:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[5:28:05] Yes, thank you. I had it passed

[5:28:08] out and don't know -- dph

[5:28:09] recommended action.

[5:28:09] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[5:28:10] MR. CHAIRMAN, I'm going to make

[5:28:12] a motion related to that. I

[5:28:13] wanted you to have it, but first

[5:28:16] I have a question for MR. Page.

[5:28:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. I

[5:28:18] was just now reading it.

[5:28:19] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[5:28:21] just passed it out to you, yes

[5:28:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[5:28:22] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[5:28:23] MR. Page, there was a concern

[5:28:25] expressed that we needed 10-days

[5:28:28] in order to hear this item

[5:28:31] because of the 66-year lease.

[5:28:32] I'm just parroting what the

[5:28:34] public said. You can please

[5:28:35] advise.

[5:28:36] >>leon page: I'm not aware of

[5:28:37] that requirement. With respect

[5:28:40] to the brown act's in thing

[5:28:41] requirements, as the school

[5:28:44] board aware, each and every item

[5:28:46] of business ought to be

[5:28:47] transacted or discussed by the

[5:28:49] board, has to be published on a

[5:28:50] notice agenda 72 hours in

[5:28:53] advance of the meeting. And I'm

[5:28:54] looking at agendas for this

[5:28:59] meeting, and it was last updated

[5:29:01] 6:19-2026 at 4:20 P.M. So that's

[5:29:03] in compliance with the 72-hour

[5:29:04] requirement. The requirement

[5:29:06] does not apply with attachments.

[5:29:07] That's often the case with

[5:29:09] county business. We have the

[5:29:10] recommended actions in place.

[5:29:11] We have the items of businesses

[5:29:13] to be trance acted or discussed

[5:29:14] described. But we still might

[5:29:16] be making, you know, a tweak to

[5:29:19] an attachment, and that's

[5:29:20] standard practice..

[5:29:22] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[5:29:24] you. MR. CHAIRMAN.

[5:29:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: yes, go

[5:29:25] ahead.

[5:29:26] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

[5:29:27] you. So I remain excited about

[5:29:29] the harbor and the

[5:29:31] revitalization project. It's

[5:29:32] going to bring a lot of jobs, a

[5:29:34] lot of revenue. It's improving

[5:29:38] the water quality. It's

[5:29:42] modernizing an area that is in

[5:29:43] desperate need of modernization,

[5:29:47] and for the last three years

[5:29:48] since I joined the board as the

[5:29:51] district 5 representative, I've

[5:29:53] really tried to be an asset, an

[5:29:56] ally and a supporter of moving

[5:29:59] the project forward. I know

[5:30:03] alyssa napori and my -- in my

[5:30:05] office and I have worked a lot

[5:30:06] on getting the coastal

[5:30:08] commission permitting, making

[5:30:11] sure that all of the boater

[5:30:14] questions are answered,

[5:30:16] developing good working

[5:30:16] relationships with all of the

[5:30:19] stakeholder groups. But, of

[5:30:22] course, you can't please

[5:30:29] everyone. And my concern is

[5:30:31] that -- I'm very concerned with

[5:30:33] the mayor's comments. I'll just

[5:30:35] say that. I thought that was a

[5:30:36] little over the top. But for

[5:30:38] the board's awareness and for

[5:30:43] the public's awareness, in an

[5:30:49] effort to what I would consider

[5:30:50] correct, the development

[5:30:52] agreement that was approved by a

[5:30:54] prior board, you know, nearly 10

[5:30:57] years ago, we, working with

[5:31:01] county real estate and the ceo's

[5:31:04] office -- we really tried to get

[5:31:07] more public benefit for the

[5:31:11] residents and the visitors of

[5:31:14] the harbor for the county. And

[5:31:16] in exchange for the

[5:31:18] consideration of the additional

[5:31:20] years, the additional

[5:31:22] entitlement. So we tried to get

[5:31:24] a higher percentage of rent

[5:31:27] payments because we thought that

[5:31:28] the contract that was originally

[5:31:31] negotiated was low. We tried to

[5:31:34] get a minimum annual rent

[5:31:35] payment increase based on

[5:31:37] financing success, like, for

[5:31:40] example, if they refinance upon

[5:31:41] closing that financing event,

[5:31:43] the minimum rent could increase,

[5:31:44] ensuring that the county

[5:31:45] receives a fair shaver the

[5:31:47] tenants' increased financial

[5:31:50] capacity. We tried to shorten

[5:31:54] or eliminate the construction

[5:31:55] rent abatement periods related

[5:31:57] to the annual minimum rent or

[5:31:59] percentage rent. As an example,

[5:32:00] there's a construction period.

[5:32:01] So the delay in the county

[5:32:05] receiving funds while the hotels

[5:32:06] get into operational mode.

[5:32:08] Well, at the time it wasn't

[5:32:09] contemplated that the olympics

[5:32:11] was coming and that those hotels

[5:32:13] would be filled up maybe a lot

[5:32:16] more quickly. We tried to get

[5:32:18] additional improvements, not

[5:32:20] currently covered in the

[5:32:22] contract. We requested that

[5:32:24] dana point harbor partners make

[5:32:25] additional improvements to the

[5:32:28] harbor that would benefit the

[5:32:30] county. Such improvements to be

[5:32:32] upgrades to the common areas,

[5:32:33] other enhancements that increase

[5:32:35] the value of the property or the

[5:32:38] usefulness to the county. We

[5:32:43] tried to get support for the oc

[5:32:45] c event center modernization.

[5:32:47] New harbor patrol docks for the

[5:32:50] harbor patrol. The white sea

[5:32:53] bass pins. We tried to

[5:32:54] negotiate the slip fees, which

[5:33:02] has been a very challenging

[5:33:05] issue, we tried to get a slip

[5:33:05] rate stabilization and a slip

[5:33:07] rate formula that would be a

[5:33:11] little bit more friendly. There

[5:33:14] are elements that we could not

[5:33:18] get agreement on, and so we --

[5:33:21] the contract that is before you

[5:33:22] is what ceo real estate and the

[5:33:26] ceo's office was able to

[5:33:28] negotiate. And one of those

[5:33:31] elements was that the county

[5:33:33] would have access, if the county

[5:33:34] department heads wanted to have

[5:33:36] a meeting in an available

[5:33:37] meeting room that's not being

[5:33:39] used, that's not being rebelled,

[5:33:41] that they could have access --

[5:33:43] that's not being rented, that

[5:33:45] they could have access and use

[5:33:46] that space for free of charge at

[5:33:48] public harbor. That was not

[5:33:53] agreed to. So I'm just

[5:33:58] concerned that in this situation

[5:34:00] the principal to whom much

[5:34:03] is given, much is required,

[5:34:07] seems not to follow. So I've

[5:34:11] passed out some edits that --

[5:34:13] and a proposal that I have to

[5:34:15] address some of the concerns

[5:34:20] that have been raised and that

[5:34:22] could not get negotiated. And I

[5:34:27] would ask that these items be

[5:34:29] added to the lease agreement.

[5:34:32] And I'll just read it into the

[5:34:34] record. So direct ceo real

[5:34:36] estate and county counsel, to

[5:34:39] revise attachment a, the master

[5:34:40] ground lease hotel component

[5:34:43] lease with dana harbor partners

[5:34:45] llc to require a labor piece

[5:34:46] agreement for future hotel

[5:34:48] operations at dana point harbor.

[5:34:49] A labor peace agreement is a

[5:34:51] written agreement between a

[5:34:52] hotel employer and the labor

[5:34:54] organization that protects hotel

[5:34:56] operations from labor disruption

[5:34:58] by prohibiting strikes,

[5:35:00] picketing, boycotts, worker

[5:35:02] stoppages, slowdowns or other

[5:35:04] economic activity that would

[5:35:04] interfere with the operations.

[5:35:06] The requirement does not require

[5:35:08] the hotel to be unionized,

[5:35:11] compel recognition of any

[5:35:12] specific labor organization,

[5:35:14] dictate any representation,

[5:35:16] outcome or require any party to

[5:35:17] violate federal or state labor

[5:35:19] law. The reason I'm asking for

[5:35:19] this is because I've been

[5:35:22] contacted by unite here who has

[5:35:24] expressed concern about not

[5:35:26] having a plan for the workers

[5:35:31] once the building is torn down.

[5:35:33] Direct county staff -- number 2,

[5:35:34] direct county staff to work with

[5:35:38] the current hotelier and develop

[5:35:41] our oc workforce solutions and

[5:35:42] the state employment development

[5:35:43] department to support employees

[5:35:45] impacted by the planned hotel

[5:35:46] closure and demolition and

[5:35:47] create a workforce transition

[5:35:49] plan. This work should include

[5:35:52] confirmation of any applicable

[5:35:54] warrant act notice obligations,

[5:35:56] rapid response services, job

[5:35:58] placement assistance, retraining

[5:36:00] resources, unemployment

[5:36:01] insurance information,

[5:36:02] coordination with nearby

[5:36:03] hospitality employers for

[5:36:04] potential reemployment

[5:36:06] opportunities and identifying

[5:36:08] the number of effected

[5:36:11] employees, anticipated closure

[5:36:13] timeline and employee

[5:36:14] classifications, proposed notice

[5:36:17] schedule and available severance

[5:36:19] benefits transfer or recall

[5:36:20] opportunities. This is

[5:36:21] important because the building

[5:36:22] will be torn down within the

[5:36:23] next three months and -- maybe

[5:36:25] four. And so many people are

[5:36:27] going to be losing their jobs,

[5:36:28] and that has not yet been

[5:36:30] addressed in these negotiations.

[5:36:34] Number 3, direct ceo real

[5:36:35] estate county counsel who revise

[5:36:37] attachment b, the master grand

[5:36:40] lease commercial corps marina

[5:36:42] exoan went dana point harbor

[5:36:46] partners llc, section 11.9, to

[5:36:47] establish a slip rate

[5:36:49] stabilization policy for future

[5:36:50] slip rental rate increases after

[5:36:53] the JULY 1st, 2026 adjustment,

[5:36:54] including the following

[5:36:56] requirements. Require any

[5:36:59] future slip rate increase to be

[5:37:01] submitted to the ceo real estate

[5:37:03] office at least 90 days before

[5:37:05] the proposed effective date.

[5:37:07] Require each proposed slip rate

[5:37:08] increase to include a detailed

[5:37:11] marina slip survey of comparable

[5:37:12] southern california marinas from

[5:37:14] santa barbara to san diego with

[5:37:17] emphasis on comparable,

[5:37:18] publically-owned marinas. Limit

[5:37:20] annual slip rate increases to

[5:37:21] cumulative change in the

[5:37:23] consumer price index and cap any

[5:37:26] annual increase at 5% per slip

[5:37:28] size category unless a

[5:37:30] fifth-year market adjustment

[5:37:31] applies. Beginning in 2030,

[5:37:33] allow a fifth-year market

[5:37:35] adjustment above cumulative cpi

[5:37:38] only when supported by a marina

[5:37:39] slip survey conducted by a

[5:37:41] credentialed appraiser. And

[5:37:44] finally require the fifth-year

[5:37:45] market survey to include

[5:37:46] operable southern california

[5:37:48] publically-owned marinas and

[5:37:50] prohibit reliance on a single

[5:37:53] harbor such as newport beach.

[5:37:56] F, cap any fifth-year market

[5:37:57] adjustment at 10%. So these are

[5:38:00] the additions that I would like

[5:38:03] to include in the motion to

[5:38:05] approve the staff-recommended

[5:38:07] action. And I have one for real

[5:38:13] state, as well..

[5:38:13] >>chair, doug chaffee:

[5:38:14] supervisor wagner

[5:38:15] >>don wagner: I will move the

[5:38:17] item without the recommendations

[5:38:21] that were just dropped on us.

[5:38:25] The idea, you know, to whom much

[5:38:27] is given much is owed is fine,

[5:38:32] and it's right. The suggestion

[5:38:33] that the developers throughout

[5:38:36] are not in fact giving to the

[5:38:40] county, though, is not at all

[5:38:42] supported by the record. In

[5:38:43] fact, the county stands to

[5:38:44] benefit to the tune of millions

[5:38:49] of dollars from this proposal,

[5:38:51] and the changes that were just

[5:38:55] sort of dropped on us, forget

[5:38:56] whether they're workable. They

[5:38:58] haven't been vetted by anybody

[5:39:01] in the first place. I'm certain

[5:39:04] it would cause the hoteliers to

[5:39:06] spim walk away from the deal

[5:39:07] because -- simply walk away from

[5:39:09] the deal because you cannot

[5:39:11] finance the proposal that they

[5:39:15] are trying to finance. You

[5:39:18] cannot do what is trying to be

[5:39:20] done here to the benefit of the

[5:39:20] residents of all of orange

[5:39:22] county to the benefit of the

[5:39:26] county under these conditions.

[5:39:29] This has been a long time

[5:39:32] coming. The need to get it done

[5:39:35] and get it done now is explained

[5:39:39] by MR. Uberroth attempting to

[5:39:41] reach the completion prior to

[5:39:42] the L.A. Olympics, to benefit

[5:39:45] from, to get the advantages to

[5:39:47] the county, the city of dana

[5:39:48] point that the olympics in our

[5:39:51] backyard will give to us, to try

[5:39:56] to hold that up now, you know,

[5:40:00] frankly goes over the hog line.

[5:40:02] Pigs get fat. We've been

[5:40:05] negotiating. Pigs get fat, hogs

[5:40:06] get slaughtered. This crosses

[5:40:08] the hog line to me. The deal is

[5:40:10] on the table. The deal has been

[5:40:13] worked out very diligently by

[5:40:15] staff, and we oughta just and

[5:40:18] respect that staff work and

[5:40:19] recognize an enormous benefit to

[5:40:21] all of the people of orange

[5:40:27] county as it stands and the

[5:40:30] entire project grinds to a halt

[5:40:32] we perhaps start over at ground

[5:40:35] zero if we try to negotiate from

[5:40:38] the dais and burden this project

[5:40:41] as is proposed. So I will move

[5:40:43] the recommended action as set

[5:40:45] forth in our agenda by staff.

[5:40:48] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN..

[5:40:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[5:40:50] right. I'm not sure, do we have

[5:40:53] a motion from vice-chair foley

[5:40:56] first? Was that a motion? So

[5:40:58] we have two motions at moment.

[5:41:01] And I would simply express one

[5:41:02] concern --

[5:41:03] >>don wagner: point of order,

[5:41:04] MR. CHAIRMAN, review the tape.

[5:41:06] What she said is she would like

[5:41:08] to add these to the motion. She

[5:41:10] didn't make a motion with

[5:41:10] these.

[5:41:11] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: my

[5:41:13] motion at the staff recommended

[5:41:13] action

[5:41:14] >>don wagner: there was no such

[5:41:16] motion and certainly no such

[5:41:16] second.

[5:41:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[5:41:18] that's what I said. There might

[5:41:19] not have been the second but

[5:41:21] definitely made the motion.

[5:41:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: I

[5:41:24] interpreted that as a motion,

[5:41:25] actually, by the vice-chair. In

[5:41:29] any case, that's a dilemma at

[5:41:31] the moment. So when I looked at

[5:41:36] it, I was concerned with demoing

[5:41:37] buildings and then the people

[5:41:39] who work there will not have a

[5:41:40] play-offs employment anymore.

[5:41:42] So I was hoping we would

[5:41:45] consider calling worker

[5:41:46] retention policies similar to

[5:41:48] what we have at our airport when

[5:41:50] some of the demo was going on

[5:41:51] and stuff and it essentially

[5:41:53] gives the workers kind of a

[5:41:57] right to come back. So when the

[5:41:59] project is finished, they have

[5:42:00] the first opportunity to be back

[5:42:06] on the staff. And so at this

[5:42:07] point, neither motion has a

[5:42:09] second. I will not sport

[5:42:11] vice-chair's addition of these

[5:42:13] things so late. I'm not sure

[5:42:15] how they fit into the project.

[5:42:19] That's where I'm at. Supervisor

[5:42:19] sarmiento?

[5:42:21] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

[5:42:22] MR. Chair. Let me just, you

[5:42:25] know, start by thanking matt and

[5:42:29] soy la from our ceo -- county's

[5:42:35] ceo team for a lot of work on

[5:42:37] this. I know it's been

[5:42:38] difficult to get to this point

[5:42:39] and you had to coordinate work

[5:42:41] with a lot of different

[5:42:42] opinions. This is a very

[5:42:43] special place so, you know, it

[5:42:46] merits that time and it merits

[5:42:48] that work. But I want to be

[5:42:50] clear that I'm very supportive

[5:42:52] of the redevelopment of dana

[5:42:54] point harbor and the opportunity

[5:42:57] to bring these two new hotels

[5:43:00] that will create a long-term

[5:43:01] economic benefit and revenue not

[5:43:03] just to one district, but to the

[5:43:06] entire county. This is a county

[5:43:11] asset. So to the extent that we

[5:43:13] proceed that way, you know, I'm

[5:43:15] fully supportive. However, I do

[5:43:17] have some concerns with the

[5:43:21] timing, with the ability for us

[5:43:25] to deliberate thoughtfully.

[5:43:26] Somebody want to set my comments

[5:43:29] to music. But it's okay. I

[5:43:32] don't speak in rhythm. But we

[5:43:35] did receive the asr and the

[5:43:39] lease documents late friday

[5:43:41] afternoon and it does comply

[5:43:43] with the 72-hour rule. That

[5:43:46] doesn't mean it's a good notice.

[5:43:47] It just means it's a technical

[5:43:49] notice. And then last night,

[5:43:52] the evening before -- with, last

[5:43:54] night, before this meeting, we

[5:43:55] received some edits from the

[5:43:58] developer for the mou and the

[5:44:02] lease agreement. I understand

[5:44:04] the developer's position.

[5:44:05] Everything is always time

[5:44:07] sengtive. Time is money when it

[5:44:11] comes to trying to underwrite,

[5:44:12] you know, a project like this.

[5:44:15] I don't think anybody's going

[5:44:18] anywhere. This is an important

[5:44:20] development project. But I do

[5:44:21] believe we need to address some

[5:44:23] outstanding items before we take

[5:44:25] action. I just saw the language

[5:44:27] that was proposed by supervisor

[5:44:29] foley. I, you know, just at a

[5:44:32] glance, at a perusal, those are

[5:44:34] things that I can support, but

[5:44:35] that doesn't mean those are

[5:44:36] things that we should just

[5:44:38] tackle from up here. And I

[5:44:39] remember, it's funny, we had a

[5:44:40] letter from the commission to

[5:44:42] address homelessness, and I

[5:44:44] remember, you know, some of the

[5:44:45] supervisors saying that they

[5:44:47] were outraged to have a letter

[5:44:47] before them because it was

[5:44:48] delivered the night before, and

[5:44:50] here we are with red line

[5:44:52] versions of MOUs and lease

[5:44:55] agreements, and it's good to go.

[5:44:57] So I -- you know, I had think

[5:44:58] that we should take the same

[5:45:01] responsibility to make sure that

[5:45:03] we thoroughly look at these, and

[5:45:06] we've had an agenda that's had

[5:45:08] over 100 items on it with our

[5:45:10] budget. And so to be thoughtful

[5:45:11] about tackling something as

[5:45:14] immense as this that's going to

[5:45:17] incumber us and have us in this

[5:45:19] relationship for 66 years is

[5:45:20] something that I think we need

[5:45:24] more time on. So I know that

[5:45:28] the cdp permit requires ej

[5:45:30] programs for the underserved

[5:45:30] youth, which is something very

[5:45:31] important to me. I would like

[5:45:33] to see that language also in the

[5:45:36] lease so that youth from title 1

[5:45:37] schools from the entire county

[5:45:38] can benefit from experiencing

[5:45:41] this asset. So MR. Miller, if

[5:45:44] you can, just, you know, answer

[5:45:46] this question from where you're

[5:45:47] at or maybe come up to the

[5:46:00] podium, it's very short. But he

[5:46:08] just want to ask, can you

[5:46:09] explain...

[5:46:11] It's something that is so

[5:46:15] critical at this point that we

[5:46:19] need that we look at red line

[5:46:20] versions. What are your

[5:46:21] thoughts on that?

[5:46:23] >>speaker: the time sensitivity

[5:46:25] and the fact that we brought

[5:47:09] [Pause in captioning]

[5:47:11] After we've had a chance to live

[5:47:12] with the red line versions and

[5:47:13] some of the amendment actions

[5:47:15] here. And again, some of my

[5:47:16] colleagues mentioned receiving

[5:47:18] this at the last moment, that's

[5:47:20] not the most thoughtful and

[5:47:21] intelligent way to proceed up

[5:47:22] here, especially with something

[5:47:25] as complicated as and involved

[5:47:28] and profound as this. So

[5:47:29] MR. Chair, I'll make a third

[5:47:31] motion because the first tbro

[5:47:32] didn't get a second, to continue

[5:47:33] this item so we can have a

[5:47:35] chance to understand it better

[5:47:39] and come back with a much better

[5:47:40] thoughtful recommended action on

[5:47:48] all of thee items.

[5:47:50] >>janet nguyen: I'm going to

[5:47:51] second supervisor wagner's

[5:47:53] motion. I guess what I want to

[5:47:57] see though is more of a -- maybe

[5:47:59] the developer can tell us why

[5:48:01] it's urgent, why do you need it

[5:48:03] today? Is it a loan thing? I

[5:48:09] don't know. It would be helpful

[5:48:11] for us to understand the urgency

[5:48:13] of it

[5:48:15] >>speaker: so we are two years

[5:48:16] from the olympics being here in

[5:48:17] southern california. And for us

[5:48:19] to have a chance, that would

[5:48:21] mean we would start demolition

[5:48:23] in AUGUST, which is six weeks

[5:48:28] from now. And get started on

[5:48:30] very complicated projects to

[5:48:32] build. Two years to get those

[5:48:35] built, it's a risk to get done.

[5:48:39] And so one of the hotels sits on

[5:48:41] a podium which is a parking

[5:48:42] structure and then we build the

[5:48:44] building on top of that. So

[5:48:45] complicated project but we

[5:48:51] are -- so to lose 60 days is

[5:48:55] really worrisome in getting it

[5:48:55] done

[5:48:56] >>janet nguyen: so what I'm

[5:48:58] hearing then is that if we don't

[5:49:01] approve today, with very to wait

[5:49:01] until AUGUST because the next

[5:49:07] board meeting is in AUGUST. At

[5:49:08] least you have that timeframe

[5:49:10] from now to AUGUST to hit the

[5:49:12] ground running to start

[5:49:14] demolition in AUGUST versus

[5:49:14] waiting another two more months

[5:49:17] from AUGUST, right

[5:49:18] >>speaker: so the schedule

[5:49:20] presented -- we presented a

[5:49:21] detailed schedule to staff, and

[5:49:23] by the way, staff has been

[5:49:24] tremendous to work with. But it

[5:49:27] shows there's a -- we have to

[5:49:28] have a loan in place first. We

[5:49:31] can't get a loan first without

[5:49:32] understanding what the terms of

[5:49:34] the lease are. And so once

[5:49:36] the -- once we know what our

[5:49:42] lease is, then we request close

[5:49:44] our loan. Essentially this

[5:49:47] would be a 60-day delay on a

[5:49:49] schedule that's already very

[5:49:50] tight.

[5:49:53] >>janet nguyen: thank you. I

[5:49:56] agree with some of what my

[5:49:57] colleagues mentioned, this is an

[5:49:59] asset to the county and not just

[5:50:00] a particular district. When I

[5:50:02] was here previously this was the

[5:50:04] discussion of this item. It was

[5:50:06] very, very contentious back

[5:50:07] then, as well. It sounds like

[5:50:22] it is still today. And so I do

[5:50:23] appreciate the mayor spending

[5:50:25] all day with us. So if we don't

[5:50:26] have an action today, this will

[5:50:28] then now look at a four-month

[5:50:30] delay versus just a two-month

[5:50:31] delay because of the 60 days,

[5:50:33] having to get their loans,

[5:50:34] having to do the demo and

[5:50:40] et cetera. So I think there is

[5:50:42] that urgency. If we don't care

[5:50:44] for the olympics, then, you

[5:50:45] know, that's something else. I

[5:50:46] know we have two of our

[5:50:47] colleagues here, supervisor

[5:50:49] foley and sarmiento both on the

[5:50:51] olympics committee.

[5:50:52] . So if

[5:50:54] that's the case, then that

[5:50:56] throws it out and there's no

[5:50:58] urgency then. But what I think,

[5:50:59] though, it sounds like we have

[5:51:00] been looking at the olympics.

[5:51:03] We have been trying to

[5:51:04] accommodate and work with the

[5:51:09] different public agency, was

[5:51:10] octa, different cities, you

[5:51:10] know, the business community,

[5:51:12] you name it.

[5:51:13] The tourism community as well.

[5:51:16] So I think, you know, if we can

[5:51:18] get this complushed in 24

[5:51:21] months, I think would be

[5:51:22] valuable -- if we can get it

[5:51:23] accomplished in 24 months. I do

[5:51:27] have concern though, while I

[5:51:31] appreciate and the additional

[5:51:32] information or additional

[5:51:34] recommendation by supervisor

[5:51:35] foley, I think -- it's hard

[5:51:36] because this is so complex, it's

[5:51:38] very difficult for me to have

[5:51:42] to, you know, dive through into

[5:51:45] each of these and whether it

[5:51:47] works or doesn't work and I want

[5:51:48] to hear from real estate staff

[5:51:50] as well. So I cannot support

[5:51:50] something that's just been

[5:51:52] brought to us now. And so

[5:51:54] that's why I move forward in

[5:51:58] supporting supervisor wagner's

[5:52:01] proposal of the current

[5:52:02] recommendation by staff.

[5:52:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[5:52:06] you. I will second supervisor

[5:52:08] sarmiento's motion. But first

[5:52:10] we'll hear from supervisor

[5:52:13] wagner and I think we do need a

[5:52:21] roll call. This is the motion

[5:52:24] to accept the staff report

[5:52:25] without change

[5:52:35] [Calling roll]

[5:52:35] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[5:52:37] supervisor wagner.

[5:52:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: we're

[5:52:39] voting.

[5:52:39] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: but I

[5:52:49] need to ask him a question.

[5:52:52] Motion requires 4/5ths. It does

[5:52:53] not have it. I'd like to move

[5:52:55] on to the motion proposed by

[5:52:59] supervisor sarmiento,. This is

[5:53:01] a 66-year lease. We want it to

[5:53:03] be good for a long time. I'm

[5:53:04] not really concerned if it's

[5:53:05] ready to the olympics. That

[5:53:06] doesn't really matter to me

[5:53:07] because of the quality I want to

[5:53:10] see put in it, I don't want it

[5:53:11] rushed. I want it to be good

[5:53:16] for all 66 years of that lease.

[5:53:18] So I think all of these things

[5:53:19] being literally dumped on us

[5:53:21] last minute, I don't know where

[5:53:23] to go with some of these things.

[5:53:24] I don't understand the need for

[5:53:25] some of them or whether they are

[5:53:27] appropriate or not, but I had

[5:53:28] like some analysis of it before

[5:53:30] we have the vote. So we do have

[5:53:33] a motion to continue. I do not

[5:53:37] believe that requires a 4/5th

[5:53:47] vote.. Supervisor foley.

[5:53:48] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: look,

[5:53:50] I could have just made these

[5:53:52] additions verbally from the dais

[5:53:54] but I thought it would be easier

[5:53:55] to read it and that's I wrote it

[5:54:00] up. But the reason why I

[5:54:01] brought forward the two items

[5:54:03] that were late to the workforce

[5:54:08] is because this came to my

[5:54:10] attention yesterday that we

[5:54:11] didn't have a plan for the

[5:54:13] workers that are working at the

[5:54:16] marina. And so that caused me

[5:54:18] some quick concern. That's why

[5:54:21] I thought we could put something

[5:54:22] together to make sure that we've

[5:54:23] directed staff to work on that.

[5:54:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[5:54:27] Well, I have that same concern,

[5:54:31] and I asked for the airport

[5:54:33] worker retention policy, which

[5:54:34] we have there. And I think that

[5:54:35] kind of would answer that

[5:54:37] concern. But that needs to be

[5:54:47] studied and considered as well.

[5:54:47] .

[5:54:49] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: the

[5:54:50] first item that I passed out is

[5:54:52] essentially a mirror of what we

[5:54:52] have.

[5:54:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I'm

[5:54:53] going to.

[5:54:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: can I

[5:54:57] comment, MR. CHAIRMAN, please?

[5:54:58] Well, I mean, this is an

[5:54:59] important project for the

[5:55:01] county. And we have been.

[5:55:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: another

[5:55:03] reason for continuing it to get

[5:55:04] it done correctly.

[5:55:05] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

[5:55:06] I'm going to ask because we

[5:55:08] don't have a date for the

[5:55:09] continuance. I know we talked

[5:55:11] about having potentially a

[5:55:17] meeting in JULY. So is there a

[5:55:19] way, MR. Page, that we could

[5:55:20] continue it and if we do have a

[5:55:22] meeting in JULY, that we

[5:55:23] continue it to JULY?

[5:55:24] >>leon page: well, in terms of

[5:55:27] can the board call for a special

[5:55:30] meeting, yes. The mean, the

[5:55:32] brown act allows the CHAIRMAN To

[5:55:33] call a special meeting anytime

[5:55:38] 24 hours notice and the board

[5:55:43] could call a special meeting.

[5:55:43] Of

[5:55:44] >>vincente sarmiento: so

[5:55:46] MR. Page, just to make my motion

[5:55:47] clear, not just a simple

[5:55:49] continuance but a continuance to

[5:55:51] the next meeting or do I have to

[5:55:53] speaks too next special meeting

[5:55:55] or regularly-scheduled meeting?

[5:55:56] >>leon page: well, as of right

[5:55:58] now, there's no special meeting

[5:55:59] on calendar. I suppose you

[5:56:01] could include that with your

[5:56:02] motion. You could identify a

[5:56:05] date, although, I've heard today

[5:56:08] that -- it's complicated

[5:56:09] schedules

[5:56:09] >>vincente sarmiento: I'm trying

[5:56:10] to incorporate what the

[5:56:11] vice-chair is saying. In the

[5:56:13] event that we have a special

[5:56:15] meeting for it to -- for this

[5:56:16] item to be continued to that

[5:56:23] date that's uncertain at this

[5:56:23] point.

[5:56:24] >>leon page: it's really the

[5:56:26] next available meeting, whenever

[5:56:28] that MAY be.

[5:56:29] >>vincente sarmiento: all right.

[5:56:30] I will make sure I clarify my

[5:56:32] motion to say I would like to

[5:56:35] continue this item to the next

[5:56:38] available meeting, board of

[5:56:39] supervisors meeting.

[5:56:40] >>chair, doug chaffee: I will

[5:56:47] accept that clarification.

[5:56:49] MADAM Clerk, will you call the

[5:56:50] roll...

[5:56:58] [Calling roll]

[5:57:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: that

[5:57:01] motion carries. I'm not sure

[5:57:06] about a special meeting. I MAY

[5:57:08] be not around, and I know

[5:57:09] supervisor wagner has some

[5:57:11] concerns with some surgery. So

[5:57:14] with that, we continue this

[5:57:20] item, and so now let's go on to

[5:57:32] supplement

[5:57:33] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94cc.

[5:57:33] Under chair chaffee-orange

[5:57:34] county workforce development

[5:57:35] board-reappoint and confirm

[5:57:36] continued membership of andrew

[5:57:36] fahmy, brea, for term concurrent

[5:57:37] with supervisor's term of

[5:57:39] office

[5:57:43] we have no requests to speak on

[5:57:52] s94cc. This is my item. Okay.

[5:57:54] I'll move it.

[5:58:01] >>vincente sarmiento: second.

[5:58:02] There will be no objection.

[5:58:09] That item is approved. I think

[5:58:11] it's public comments.

[5:58:11] >>clerk, robin stieler: five

[5:58:14] public hearing items. 95 will

[5:58:15] be the first one..

[5:58:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: that goes

[5:58:18] to item 95, please.

[5:58:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: 95.

[5:58:20] Under chair chaffee and

[5:58:20] supervisor sarmiento-public

[5:58:21] hearing to consider first

[5:58:21] reading of "

[5:58:23] an ordinance of the

[5:58:24] county of orange, california,

[5:58:25] amending division 1 of title 1,

[5:58:26] section 1-1-83, of the codified

[5:58:27] ordinances of the county of

[5:58:27] orange"

[5:58:27] regarding full-cost

[5:58:28] recovery for lobbyist

[5:58:29] registration and renewal fees;

[5:58:29] set second reading and adoption

[5:58:30] for 8/11/26, 9:30 A.M.; and

[5:58:31] adopt resolution approving

[5:58:32] revised county lobbyist

[5:58:33] registration filing and renewal

[5:58:50] fees and making related findings

[5:58:50] .

[5:58:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is a

[5:58:53] public hearing. We're going to

[5:58:55] open the public hearing. MADAM

[5:58:56] Clerk, do we have any people who

[5:58:58] wish to speak on this item

[5:58:59] >>clerk, robin stieler: no. We

[5:59:00] do not.

[5:59:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: so I'm

[5:59:02] going to close the public

[5:59:03] hearing and bring it back to the

[5:59:07] board for consideration. I'm

[5:59:08] going to move the item

[5:59:10] >>vincente sarmiento: second.

[5:59:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: any

[5:59:13] objection to it? I see none.

[5:59:15] So the item is approved. And

[5:59:19] this is going to come back

[5:59:20] again, consider the matter. So

[5:59:22] the ordinance might actually be

[5:59:27] adopted. Move on to public

[5:59:30] hearing item 96.

[5:59:30] >>clerk, robin stieler: 96.

[5:59:31] Under sheriff-coroner-public

[5:59:31] hearing to consider adopting

[5:59:32] resolution approving orange

[5:59:33] county uniform parking penalty

[5:59:34] schedule of 2026 for

[5:59:34] unincorporated areas and

[5:59:35] county-owned facilities,

[5:59:36] effective 7/1/26; and

[5:59:49] superseding resolution 23-061

[5:59:49] .

[5:59:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[5:59:53] This is another public hearing.

[5:59:55] Going to open the public

[5:59:56] hearing, and MADAM Clerk, do we

[5:59:57] have any speakers

[5:59:59] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

[5:59:59] do not.

[6:00:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have

[6:00:01] none, so I'm going to close the

[6:00:02] public hearing and bring it back

[6:00:08] to this board for consideration.

[6:00:09] It's been moved. I will second

[6:00:13] the item. Any objection? Item

[6:00:15] is approved. All right, we have

[6:00:17] one more public hearing, which

[6:00:20] is item 97. MADAM Clerk...

[6:00:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: 97.

[6:00:22] Under county counsel-public

[6:00:23] hearing to consider second

[6:00:24] reading and adoption of "an

[6:00:24] uncodified ordinance of the

[6:00:25] county of orange approving the

[6:00:25] sheriff'

[6:00:26] s and district

[6:00:26] attorney'

[6:00:27] s military

[6:00:27] equipment use policies and

[6:00:29] repealing uncodified ordinance

[6:00:37] no. 25-013"

[6:00:38] .

[6:00:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

[6:00:40] to open the public hearing. Are

[6:00:41] there any public comments?

[6:00:42] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

[6:00:42] do not

[6:00:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

[6:00:45] to bring it back to the board

[6:00:46] and close the public hearing for

[6:00:48] consideration by the board.

[6:00:51] What's the pleasure of the

[6:00:55] board? Moved is seconded. Any

[6:00:57] objection? All right. Item is

[6:00:59] approved. There's one more

[6:00:59] public hearing

[6:01:01] >>clerk, robin stieler: two

[6:01:01] more

[6:01:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: item 98.

[6:01:05] >>clerk, robin stieler: 98.

[6:01:06] Under oc public works-public

[6:01:06] hearing to consider adopting

[6:01:07] resolution for fy 2025-26 fire

[6:01:08] hazard reduction weed abatement

[6:01:09] cost report by property and

[6:01:10] authorize oc agricultural

[6:01:11] commissioner to reimburse or

[6:01:20] cancel assessments under certain conditions

[6:01:20] .

[6:01:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

[6:01:22] to open the public hearing.

[6:01:24] MADAM Clerk, do we have any

[6:01:25] public speakers?

[6:01:27] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

[6:01:28] do not

[6:01:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

[6:01:30] to close the public hearing and

[6:01:32] bring it back to this board for

[6:01:34] consideration. And it's been

[6:01:36] moved and I will second it. Is

[6:01:38] there any objection to it? Item

[6:01:39] closed. And there's one more

[6:01:42] public hearing item. Getting to

[6:01:45] the end of my binder. 99,

[6:01:45] please.

[6:01:45] >>clerk, robin stieler: 99.

[6:01:46] Under oc public works-public

[6:01:47] hearing to adopt resolution

[6:01:49] adopting map checking fee

[6:01:50] schedule for fys 2026-27,

[6:01:51] 2027-28 and 2028-29 for map

[6:01:52] checking subsidy reduction

[6:01:53] program; rescind resolution no.

[6:01:53] 21-048; and make california

[6:01:54] environmental quality act (Ceqa)

[6:01:55] Exemption findings under ceqa

[6:01:56] guidelines section 15273 and

[6:01:56] public resources code

[6:02:15] 21080(B)(8) And other related findings

[6:02:15] .

[6:02:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[6:02:18] you, MADAM Clerk. I'm going to

[6:02:20] open the public hearing. Do we

[6:02:20] have any speakers

[6:02:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

[6:02:22] do not.

[6:02:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'll

[6:02:23] close the public hearing and

[6:02:24] bring it back to the board for

[6:02:26] consideration. MAY I have a

[6:02:29] motion or discussion? I will

[6:02:31] second the item. Any objection?

[6:02:37] The motion is approved. I

[6:02:39] think we're at public comments

[6:02:41] >>leon page: could I make a

[6:02:43] suggestion? The board MAY wish

[6:02:45] to reconsider agenda item 71,

[6:02:46] that's the legislative item.

[6:02:49] There were amendments made today

[6:02:52] to ab2194 and a think a couple

[6:02:52] members are aware of those

[6:02:54] amendments. Again, I raise this

[6:02:56] as an opportunity. If the board

[6:02:58] want to discuss those

[6:02:58] anticipates..

[6:02:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: do we

[6:03:00] have a copy of whatever that

[6:03:03] amendment is? I haven't seen it

[6:03:07] it. Maybe we could come back to

[6:03:08] this after we hear some of the

[6:03:10] public comments when we get

[6:03:12] copies of whatever this is

[6:03:14] >>janet nguyen: on item 99, can

[6:03:16] I record an abstention, please?

[6:03:20] Thank you..

[6:03:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[6:03:23] right. What were you saying?

[6:03:25] >>janet nguyen: for item 99, I

[6:03:27] actually wanted to record an

[6:03:28] abstention.

[6:03:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: you want

[6:03:31] an abstention. Okay. That's

[6:03:31] fine

[6:03:32] >>janet nguyen: thank you.

[6:03:33] >>chair, doug chaffee: please

[6:03:34] note for the recorded

[6:03:46] abstention. All right. We'll

[6:04:17] come back -- all right, let's go

[6:04:17] to public comment

[6:04:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: manual

[6:04:22] penned da, john spring and

[6:04:27] patricia weber..

[6:04:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: sir, you

[6:04:30] have 1 minute. Thank you.

[6:04:32] >>speaker: I came here to talk

[6:04:34] primarily about public safety.

[6:04:36] I have a background in coastal

[6:04:38] zone management, which also

[6:04:41] would be of some interest

[6:04:42] because practically everything

[6:04:44] about the olympics deals with

[6:04:46] our amenities along the coastal

[6:04:48] zone. But I'm also very

[6:04:51] concerned about discord and land

[6:04:54] use at the industrial site of

[6:04:56] aerospace where you have

[6:04:58] residential homes within a few

[6:05:01] hundred feet of the most

[6:05:04] dangerous chemicals when they

[6:05:07] are abused by either heat or

[6:05:12] contamination. Now, obviously

[6:05:13] in a few seconds I cannot convey

[6:05:15] all of my knowledge or expertise

[6:05:18] in any of these areas. So my

[6:05:23] suggestion is, if you are really

[6:05:26] interested in what katrina foley

[6:05:31] was talking about and be donald

[6:05:32] wagner and donald chaffee

[6:05:34] regarding the olympics, please

[6:05:40] contact me.

[6:05:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: next

[6:05:43] three speakers are california

[6:05:45] precinct activators, roseanne

[6:05:47] and lisa h. Please come

[6:05:47] forward

[6:05:48] >>speaker: good afternoon, board

[6:05:54] of supervisors. Earlier I

[6:06:04] handed.

[6:06:11] S. The point of clarity

[6:06:13] notice has already been given to

[6:06:14] the 50 state governors, to the

[6:06:15] PRESIDENT Of the united states,

[6:06:16] to the supreme court and united

[6:06:17] states senate and united states

[6:06:20] congress. We are now giving you

[6:06:22] a copy. Take notice, a frequent

[6:06:22] recurrence of fundamental

[6:06:24] principles of the constitution

[6:06:24] is required to maintain free

[6:06:26] government. The main objective

[6:06:27] of government is to protect and

[6:06:29] preserve the people's rights and

[6:06:31] uphold the law of GOD. The

[6:06:32] people establish the public good

[6:06:34] in the original state and united

[6:06:36] states constitutions are founded

[6:06:38] upon christian principles,

[6:06:41] common law and maxims of law.

[6:06:42] Wherein the constitution should

[6:06:44] the people grant authority for

[6:06:47] islam and shereeial law to

[6:06:47] conquer our form of government

[6:06:50] and society. Islam is sharia

[6:06:51] law and repugnant to the

[6:06:52] founding precepts and principles

[6:06:54] of american society

[6:06:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[6:07:14] you.

[6:07:17] >>speaker: reading a letter from

[6:07:20] robert paul reston governor pro

[6:07:22] tem new california state, dear

[6:07:24] supervisors, registrar and

[6:07:25] sheriff, the purpose this notice

[6:07:27] is to ask for an opportunity to

[6:07:28] address the entire board and/or

[6:07:32] to present a claim consenting

[6:07:34] the certification -- contesting

[6:07:35] the certification of any

[6:07:37] election results at the next

[6:07:39] regularly scheduled meeting at

[6:07:40] board of supervisors. I am

[6:07:43] requesting the board direct the

[6:07:44] registrar of voters to respond

[6:07:46] to the request for information

[6:07:47] below pippin vote your attention

[6:07:51] to election code section 16100d,

[6:07:53] a lector of a county, stick or

[6:07:55] of any political subdivision of

[6:07:58] either MAY contest any election

[6:07:59] held therein to any of the

[6:08:01] following causes, d, that

[6:08:03] illegal votes were cast. The

[6:08:05] factual basis of my request is

[6:08:06] that it is common knowledge that

[6:08:08] there has been a flood of

[6:08:10] illegal aliens into the state of

[6:08:11] california's counties, cities,

[6:08:12] and school districts

[6:08:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[6:08:14] you, ma'am. Your time is up.

[6:08:19] Thank you.

[6:08:20] >>speaker: those non-citizens

[6:08:23] have apparently been allowed to

[6:08:24] register with the department of

[6:08:25] motor vehicles. With that

[6:08:26] registration, these non-citizens

[6:08:28] have been provided with voter

[6:08:29] registration and election

[6:08:31] ballots. It is also common

[6:08:32] knowledge that investigative

[6:08:33] reporters have discovered that

[6:08:37] some of the illegal aliens

[6:08:39] non-citizens have in fact voted

[6:08:40] providing these non-citizen

[6:08:42] voter registration and election

[6:08:44] ballots gives you the members of

[6:08:44] the board of supervisors and you

[6:08:46] the registrar of voters the

[6:08:47] legal basis to set aside the

[6:08:49] election and deny the

[6:08:50] certification due to the number

[6:08:53] of illegal voters as set forth

[6:08:57] in california election code

[6:09:02] 16100 specifically section d.

[6:09:05] There's inchon -- these inchon

[6:09:08] truthable facts give you not

[6:09:09] only the right but the

[6:09:10] obligation to investigate voter

[6:09:12] fraud. If the board of

[6:09:15] registrar certifies the

[6:09:15] election, they will be

[6:09:17] committing a felony. To the

[6:09:19] board and the registrar, would

[6:09:21] you please provide me with the

[6:09:22] person who served you the

[6:09:22] letter.

[6:09:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[6:09:24] you, ma'am

[6:09:29] >>speaker: thank you.

[6:09:30] >>clerk, robin stieler: last

[6:09:32] speaker is alajandra.

[6:09:35] >>speaker: supervisors, I

[6:09:37] respectfully urge to you vote no

[6:09:44] on item s94t and stop funding

[6:09:45] $250k to plan the parenthood,

[6:09:47] the nation's largest abortion

[6:09:49] provider. Former planned

[6:09:50] patienthood director abby

[6:09:51] johnson has publically testified

[6:09:54] that funds directed to planned

[6:09:55] parenthood help support its

[6:09:57] abortion practices. Abortion

[6:10:01] intentionally ends the life of a

[6:10:02] developing human beings.

[6:10:04] Approximately 17,000 unborn

[6:10:07] babies here in orange county are

[6:10:07] killed annually

[6:10:09] . Teen pregnancy is the no the

[6:10:12] only risk at hand. Nearly half

[6:10:14] of newly sexually transmitted

[6:10:16] infections occur among young

[6:10:19] people ages 15 to 24. Taxpayer

[6:10:23] dollars should also support

[6:10:24] abstinence-centered education

[6:10:26] programs that encourage teens to

[6:10:28] delay sexual activity, build

[6:10:30] self respect, and strengthen

[6:10:33] family. Do not promote sexual

[6:10:35] activity by providing that

[6:10:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[6:10:37] you, ma'am

[6:10:37] >>speaker: thank you.

[6:10:39] >>clerk, robin stieler: no

[6:10:40] further speakers.

[6:10:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[6:10:44] right. And with that we do have

[6:10:48] a copy now, it's a lot to read.

[6:10:50] But let me finish with our other

[6:10:51] board commitments for the day,

[6:10:52] and then we can come back at

[6:10:54] very end and talk about this if

[6:10:58] we need to. I'd particularly

[6:11:00] like to know if there's any

[6:11:02] comments from supervisor

[6:11:06] sarmiento and nguyen now that

[6:11:08] we've had a chance to study it.

[6:11:10] Now we come to board comments,

[6:11:12] if there are any. Do we have

[6:11:13] any board members that would

[6:11:14] like to comment on anything at

[6:11:21] this point? Anyone?

[6:11:23] >>don wagner: a couple

[6:11:24] adjournment memories

[6:11:26] >>vincente sarmiento: I have an

[6:11:29] adjournment now as well.

[6:11:33] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[6:11:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[6:11:36] think we should do this item

[6:11:37] before we dot adjournments.

[6:11:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, we

[6:11:39] can do that. That's fine. But

[6:11:42] let me make sure there are no

[6:11:44] board comments first.. I

[6:11:46] didn't see any lights on. I'll

[6:11:48] pass on mine. I will not

[6:11:52] disrupt the flow. All right.

[6:11:56] MADAM Ceo, your very last

[6:11:57] chance

[6:11:58] >>clerk, robin stieler: I

[6:11:59] believe supervisor nguyen has

[6:11:59] comments

[6:12:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: I don't

[6:12:01] have a light on here

[6:12:03] >>janet nguyen: I'm sorry. Can

[6:12:05] I MAY being some board

[6:12:06] comments.

[6:12:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[6:12:08] right. Then maybe I'll join

[6:12:08] later

[6:12:09] >>janet nguyen: I can do later,

[6:12:10] whatever you want me to.

[6:12:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I

[6:12:16] thought we do do any -- we would

[6:12:19] do any comments now and then we

[6:12:22] will come if we can to the re

[6:12:23] revised bill, talk about that,

[6:12:24] if you guys have had a chance to

[6:12:27] look at it, and then we'll go to

[6:12:28] the adjournments if we want to,

[6:12:29] if that's all right. So if you

[6:12:32] have comments you'd like to

[6:12:32] make, go ahead

[6:12:34] >>janet nguyen: I do,

[6:12:35] MR. CHAIRMAN, thank you. Just a

[6:12:38] fews things. One, you know, I

[6:12:40] just want to -- I know it's hard

[6:12:42] to believe but it's been a month

[6:12:45] since the incident of the -- the

[6:12:46] incident in garden grove and

[6:12:48] everything has remained

[6:12:49] stabilized at the plant, and we

[6:12:52] are waiting for gkn to obtain

[6:12:54] the equipment to remove mma for

[6:12:55] the two tanks not at risk of

[6:12:57] leaking. So far no removal date

[6:12:59] has been identified. I want

[6:13:01] just to thank MADAM Ceo and hca

[6:13:04] for continuously, you know,

[6:13:07] gives the update on this issue

[6:13:08] and continue to work with the

[6:13:10] city of garden grove and be

[6:13:12] present there at their council

[6:13:13] meetings when asked to give the

[6:13:19] update. I also -- last time I

[6:13:24] did not thank enough folks. So

[6:13:26] we got a full list. I hope I

[6:13:28] didn't MISS Anybody. But I want

[6:13:30] to, again, you know, be sure to

[6:13:33] thank the los alamitos racetrack

[6:13:35] for allowing us to use their

[6:13:36] parking lot for the commanding

[6:13:38] center. Ocfa, city of garden

[6:13:40] grove, the police department,

[6:13:42] health care agency, sheriff,

[6:13:44] ocea, aqmd, you know, california

[6:13:46] office emergency services, all

[6:13:48] the county staff, the management

[6:13:50] staff, everybody, uc irvine

[6:13:51] health, there's also some

[6:13:54] businesses that came out and

[6:13:55] assisted as well. I wanted to

[6:13:56] just identify them as well, and

[6:13:59] this is just one of the shorter

[6:14:01] lists. This is not completely

[6:14:03] full. We're still getting more

[6:14:04] folks letting us know who else

[6:14:07] was there to assist. Foot long

[6:14:10] coffee and tea, bow and

[6:14:13] baguette, blue restaurant lanon

[6:14:19] kitchen. Smile again, twin fat

[6:14:24] supermarket. Faux v1. We

[6:14:25] appreciate everyone coming out

[6:14:27] and bringing food and place to

[6:14:29] to our command center. We

[6:14:30] appreciate you doing it without

[6:14:32] us even asking. And then the

[6:14:35] next one, since we won't be here

[6:14:36] until AUGUST, JULY 4th is

[6:14:38] always an exciting time

[6:14:41] in huntington beach and we have

[6:14:42] the largest parade west of the

[6:14:43] mississippi. Obviously as

[6:14:45] mentioned, this year will be the

[6:14:48] biggest ever with a three-day

[6:14:50] celebration in addition to

[6:14:52] america's semiquincentennial.

[6:14:57] it's also huntington's beach

[6:15:00] 102 -- 122th fourth of JULY

[6:15:02] parade. The fun starts on

[6:15:04] JULY 3rd at noon with live

[6:15:05] music at the pier lasting into

[6:15:07] the night. On the 4th after

[6:15:08] the parade, live music will

[6:15:10] start and last until 8:00 P.M.

[6:15:11] With the city's biggest block

[6:15:13] party ever on main street.

[6:15:16] Homeowners can enter a house

[6:15:17] decorating contests. There will

[6:15:18] also be a 5k run in the

[6:15:20] morning and fireworks starting

[6:15:23] at 9:00 P.M.. More music --

[6:15:24] more live music is scheduled on

[6:15:26] the 5th. Be warned that it

[6:15:28] will be a very busy, busy

[6:15:30] downtown. So parking is going

[6:15:33] to be extremely difficult. So I

[6:15:35] would encourage people to

[6:15:39] ride-share or to please plan

[6:15:41] accordingly. Also I wanted to

[6:15:43] draw attention to a worthwhile

[6:15:45] program that I've supported,

[6:15:48] meta makes ray ban smart glasses

[6:15:49] for veterans who are visually

[6:15:51] impaired or blind and gives them

[6:15:53] away for free. It was recently

[6:15:55] announced last week the glasses

[6:15:57] use ai to speak to the

[6:16:01] individual who's wearing it and

[6:16:05] then can describe what is in

[6:16:07] their line of site. I've asked

[6:16:10] the county veterans service

[6:16:12] offices to please assist our

[6:16:13] local blind veterans in

[6:16:17] obtaining these glasses, any

[6:16:18] visually-impaired veteran is

[6:16:20] eligible. The blind veterans

[6:16:22] association is a distributor and

[6:16:23] will train veterans on how to

[6:16:26] use these glasses. They have a

[6:16:28] rehab center at our closest V.A.

[6:16:30] Hospital, which is in the city

[6:16:31] of long beach, and the

[6:16:33] association also comes to our

[6:16:35] county's veterans office once a

[6:16:36] month. So to get these class

[6:16:38] glasses, the veterans should

[6:16:40] register for free at the

[6:16:43] association's website at bva.Org

[6:16:49] or please call them at

[6:16:57] 562-826-8015. The glasses will

[6:16:58] be shipped to the veteran and

[6:17:00] they can get zoom training or go

[6:17:03] to the office to get training in

[6:17:04] person. This is a great

[6:17:06] opportunity, and we take our

[6:17:08] eyesight for granted. And I

[6:17:09] can't imagine not being able to

[6:17:11] see. So I want to do all I can

[6:17:12] to get the word out about this

[6:17:15] free life-changing invention.

[6:17:18] And so with that, MR. CHAIRMAN,

[6:17:29] thank you.

[6:17:30] >>vincente sarmiento: I just

[6:17:31] want to let everybody know as we

[6:17:33] come to the end of JUNE, I want

[6:17:35] to say a few words about lgbtq

[6:17:37] pride month. Each JUNE we

[6:17:40] celebrate pride month and honor

[6:17:41] contributions of the community

[6:17:42] and the ongoing fight for

[6:17:44] equality. Pride traces its

[6:17:46] roots to the stonewall uprising

[6:17:49] in JUNE, 1969 when legion people

[6:17:51] in new york city stood up

[6:17:52] against harassment and descrim

[6:17:54] nation in a defining moment for

[6:17:56] the movement. Their courage

[6:17:57] galvanized generations of

[6:17:58] advocacy and progress that

[6:18:00] continue today. Even as we

[6:18:01] celebrate, we cannot forget that

[6:18:03] pride began as a protest. It

[6:18:05] was an act of resistance against

[6:18:07] violence and justice and

[6:18:08] systematic oppression. It is

[6:18:10] especially important for us to

[6:18:11] remember the origins of pride

[6:18:13] this year in the face of renewed

[6:18:15] challenges and in a national

[6:18:17] political climate where some

[6:18:19] seek to roll back the progress

[6:18:20] that's been made and the

[6:18:21] community continues to persevere

[6:18:23] and lead with strength,

[6:18:25] resilience and love but also

[6:18:26] with fear because of all of the

[6:18:28] pressure. As the father of a

[6:18:31] gay son, I always worry when my

[6:18:33] son is away from me because I

[6:18:36] know there are still people that

[6:18:38] misunderstand, judge, and become

[6:18:40] hostile to folks that are -- you

[6:18:41] know, that love differently. I

[6:18:43] just want to thank all of those

[6:18:44] who advocate for justice,

[6:18:46] inclusion, and dignity for all.

[6:18:48] Your voices matter. And --

[6:18:50] then, and as ever, we continue

[6:18:51] the fight for inclusion, support

[6:18:54] the rights of all people to live

[6:18:55] openly, be respected for who

[6:18:57] they are and thrive in our

[6:18:58] county. Thank you, MR. Chair.

[6:18:58] .

[6:18:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: well,

[6:19:03] thank you. If I MAY make a few

[6:19:05] remarks. Our last and eighth

[6:19:07] kindness award ceremony will be

[6:19:13] held on NOVEMBER 13.

[6:19:14] NOVEMBER 13 is observed

[6:19:15] internationally as world

[6:19:17] kindness day. That's why we

[6:19:18] hold our kindness awards on that

[6:19:20] date. We're looking to select

[6:19:22] people from my district, any one

[6:19:26] of the seven cities, that would

[6:19:29] like to represent their city.

[6:19:31] We can hold them out as examples

[6:19:33] of kindness and community

[6:19:35] service for others to emulate.

[6:19:37] So nominations will be accepted

[6:19:39] until SEPTEMBER 18. And then

[6:19:45] we'll close them off. The

[6:19:46] future leaders program is

[6:19:48] continuing. They finished their

[6:19:50] third session last saturday.

[6:19:53] They had a tour of the sheriffs

[6:19:55] coroner division. The sheriffs

[6:19:57] coroner division is especially

[6:19:58] interesting. It's kind of the

[6:20:03] best in the state, the county

[6:20:04] center staff for training here

[6:20:05] in orange county. And it's

[6:20:07] followed by a meant health

[6:20:08] awareness presentation by our

[6:20:09] health care agency. We're

[6:20:10] coming up this saturday, we're

[6:20:12] going to do a mock board of

[6:20:14] supervisors meeting where each

[6:20:16] of the students are supposed to

[6:20:19] try to advocate something, then

[6:20:20] write a staff report, and then

[6:20:21] they try to convince others to

[6:20:23] approve it. That will be

[6:20:24] followed by a graduation

[6:20:26] ceremony. And I'm pleased that

[6:20:30] we're able to visit -- previsit

[6:20:32] the cal state fullerton's

[6:20:33] project rebound women's housing

[6:20:34] facility where we're able to

[6:20:38] help with the funding. And then

[6:20:39] I'd like to congratulate the

[6:20:40] orange county commission and

[6:20:41] status of women and girls for

[6:20:43] being selected as a finalist for

[6:20:46] this year's golden hub awards,

[6:20:48] collaborative community

[6:20:49] development innovation category

[6:20:50] for their inaugural report. And

[6:20:52] there will be a ceremony at

[6:20:54] nixon center later this -- I

[6:20:56] think it's thursday night. And

[6:20:59] now, the last chance, ceo, is

[6:21:02] there any comment you'd like to

[6:21:03] make?

[6:21:05] >>michelle aguirre: yeah,

[6:21:07] thanks, chair. So just oh oil

[6:21:10] be fast in the interest of time.

[6:21:11] Just wanted to thank the board

[6:21:15] for your kind words. Earlier

[6:21:18] today, to your chiefs for all of

[6:21:19] their support. I've loved

[6:21:21] working with all of you,

[6:21:23] whenever you are. To the county

[6:21:26] family for your support. For,

[6:21:32] you know, just a thank you to my

[6:21:33] chiefs in the CEOs office.

[6:21:34] You know who you are. My

[6:21:38] partners in crime, kim and liz,

[6:21:40] the newest members of the

[6:21:43] partners in crime, oana, carolyn

[6:21:45] and chris lynn. Thank you for

[6:21:48] everything. Our community be

[6:21:51] partners have appreciated

[6:21:58] working with you. And elle, I

[6:22:00] could not have done this without

[6:22:03] you. Thank you so much. Leon,

[6:22:04] robin, are you part of the

[6:22:10] chiefs' team, right. Our

[6:22:12] biweekly staff meetings, we've

[6:22:13] had a great time. Dom and mel,

[6:22:16] you know who you are, thank you.

[6:22:20] Call me. And I would say

[6:22:22] casey, good luck. You've got my

[6:22:25] number. Just don't call before

[6:22:38] 7:00. Thank you, chair..

[6:22:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[6:22:42] you, michelle. Appreciate

[6:22:45] everything you've done. We all

[6:22:47] do, as we expressed earlier.

[6:22:48] And so hopefully you'll enjoy

[6:22:51] saturday, your first day off.

[6:22:55] Okay. Now, let's come back to

[6:23:00] this revised bill. I've

[6:23:02] currently read through it. I'm

[6:23:04] mainly curious about supervisor

[6:23:06] sarmiento and supervisor

[6:23:07] nguyen's review. Go ahead,

[6:23:08] supervisor sarmiento

[6:23:08] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

[6:23:11] MR. Chair. I'll be brief. I

[6:23:13] was out of the room when I

[6:23:16] believe MR. Page provided the

[6:23:18] suggestion that we MAY want to

[6:23:19] take a different position than

[6:23:21] what was voted on earlier given

[6:23:23] the revisions to the bill.

[6:23:25] There's some pretty substantive

[6:23:26] and material changes to this

[6:23:27] bill, although, I'm not opposed

[6:23:31] to what I see on perusal. But

[6:23:33] I'm also a lawyer, as you are,

[6:23:35] and I don't know how -- whether

[6:23:37] or not this language has been

[6:23:40] looked at by ledge counsel, by

[6:23:41] our ledgetive team here. I just

[6:23:45] want to make sure that we're --

[6:23:46] or we would be considering

[6:23:48] something that is clear to all

[6:23:51] of us. In section 1, I know

[6:23:54] that I'm really grateful to the

[6:23:57] assemblymember for section 1a

[6:23:59] where he includes the two

[6:24:02] supervisors and an alternate to

[6:24:04] serve on the board of directors,

[6:24:07] and in section c 1 of --

[6:24:08] subsection c 1 of section a, it

[6:24:12] looks like there is a

[6:24:13] continue -- additional language

[6:24:15] for the staggering of terms,

[6:24:17] although, I haven't gone into

[6:24:19] that detail. It's more section

[6:24:22] 2 where there will be, I

[6:24:25] believe, under subsection b, the

[6:24:27] independent, external audit to

[6:24:30] evaluate a number of different

[6:24:32] issue areas. So that's where I

[6:24:33] think we need to have a little

[6:24:35] bit more detail. I think this

[6:24:36] is really encouraging. It's

[6:24:37] down the right path. I think

[6:24:39] that we're going to be

[6:24:41] meeting -- I'm looking at the

[6:24:43] schedule for tomorrow -- at

[6:24:45] 11:00 A.M. With the

[6:24:46] assemblymember, and I believe

[6:24:49] what was discussed here today is

[6:24:51] all done I think in good faith

[6:24:53] to work with the assemblymember

[6:24:55] and these changes. But I do

[6:24:56] think that we need a little bit

[6:24:57] more time. It's abrupt. As

[6:24:59] we've said, we've had over 100

[6:25:01] items and then this gets layered

[6:25:03] on top it for us to make a

[6:25:05] quick, often cuff approval of

[6:25:06] this. I certainly don't feel

[6:25:08] comfortable doing that.

[6:25:12] Although, I see -- I'm very

[6:25:13] encouraged by what I see, I just

[6:25:15] want to make sure that we have

[6:25:16] others that can lend their eyes

[6:25:19] to this and provide us with some

[6:25:22] good background. I suggest we

[6:25:24] hold with our recommendation as

[6:25:27] was made earlier, and am very,

[6:25:29] very, again, optimistic of

[6:25:30] meeting with the assemblymember

[6:25:31] and working through some of

[6:25:33] these additional changes that he

[6:25:35] MAY be recommending. By

[6:25:36] tomorrow, we shrewed a better

[6:25:40] idea of what they MAY mean. So

[6:25:42] that would be my recommendation

[6:25:43] >>chair, doug chaffee: so we

[6:25:46] would withdraw the previous

[6:25:49] recommendation of opposing,

[6:25:50] instead, simply have a holding

[6:25:52] position where we don't really

[6:25:53] take a position until we've had

[6:25:55] a chance to look at it further;

[6:25:56] is that what you're saying

[6:25:58] >>vincente sarmiento: yeah. You

[6:25:59] know, because we've asked a lot

[6:26:01] of others to write letters in

[6:26:02] opposition. Right now it's more

[6:26:05] maybe not taking a position,

[6:26:06] although, we -- because we don't

[6:26:08] know exactly what some of these

[6:26:09] provisions mean

[6:26:12] >>speaker: okay. Supervisor

[6:26:12] wagner?

[6:26:14] >>speaker: wanted to make and

[6:26:16] maybe amplify the point you were

[6:26:19] just making. We took an opposed

[6:26:20] position and it now will reflect

[6:26:22] an opposition to what is a

[6:26:25] different bill. And so it MAY

[6:26:28] require a board action to

[6:26:31] rescind the opposition. That's

[6:26:33] the first thing. And whether we

[6:26:34] go all the way and support this

[6:26:35] or the no, I agree, maybe take

[6:26:37] some more time and more

[6:26:38] analysis, and I'd like to hear

[6:26:41] from our ledge team. But at a

[6:26:42] minimum, I think we ought to

[6:26:44] tell everybody, hey, stand down.

[6:26:46] We are not opposed any longer.

[6:26:48] We're just gonna not take any

[6:26:50] position. But I think that

[6:26:53] requires more board action.

[6:26:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

[6:26:54] Vice-chair.

[6:26:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yeah,

[6:26:57] I agree with supervisor wagner,

[6:26:59] and I'm -- I also think we need

[6:27:01] to give direction, because if

[6:27:04] two of you are going to be in

[6:27:05] sacramento, you know, lobbying

[6:27:07] on our behalf, we have to have a

[6:27:08] position. I mean, most of

[6:27:11] section 2 deals with audits. It

[6:27:14] seems fine to me. It's all

[6:27:16] about different types of audits

[6:27:19] and what would be required in

[6:27:23] terms of auditing. I don't see

[6:27:26] any obvious reason to oppose it.

[6:27:30] And so I would -- to me, it

[6:27:32] seems like we got what we wanted

[6:27:38] in terms of the staggering, and

[6:27:40] the two board members and the

[6:27:43] alternate are added back, and

[6:27:47] then the rest of it is all about

[6:27:50] conducting -- requiring the

[6:27:52] health authority to conduct an

[6:27:55] independent audit on a variety

[6:27:59] of different matters. And so it

[6:28:00] seems like consistent went what

[6:28:02] we've been doing here anyway.

[6:28:05] We've been doing auditing and

[6:28:07] requiring audits and I don't see

[6:28:12] why would we oppose an audit.

[6:28:15] So I would move to rescind the

[6:28:17] opposed position and to.

[6:28:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: I think

[6:28:21] we already a motion.

[6:28:21] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no,

[6:28:23] he didn't make a motion

[6:28:23] >>vincente sarmiento: let me go

[6:28:26] ahead and move to remove or

[6:28:29] rescind our opposition. Well,

[6:28:32] as chair of the board at cal

[6:28:33] optima, I would appreciate the

[6:28:34] curtracy to make that motion. I

[6:28:35] believe we're going to be

[6:28:38] meeting with MR. -- the author

[6:28:40] of the bill, and I think we'll

[6:28:41] go ahead and let him clarify

[6:28:42] some of these proceed violations

[6:28:44] with us as well..

[6:28:45] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: but

[6:28:46] we have to take a position

[6:28:47] >>vincente sarmiento: I just

[6:28:48] said that we would.

[6:28:50] >>chair, doug chaffee, no, we

[6:28:52] don't have to take a position

[6:28:52] >>speaker.

[6:28:53] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: we do

[6:28:53] because they're going to lobby

[6:28:55] on behalf of the county. Don't

[6:28:57] we have to have a position.

[6:28:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: their

[6:28:59] position I think is respected as

[6:29:00] members of the caloptima board.

[6:29:02] I don't think we need to give

[6:29:03] them any particular

[6:29:04] instruction.

[6:29:05] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: would

[6:29:06] you apply that to all of us

[6:29:09] >>leon page: if I MAY, first I

[6:29:11] radio suggest the board take a

[6:29:12] vote on whether to reconsider

[6:29:15] the action on item 71.

[6:29:15] Assuming -- and I suppose that

[6:29:17] could be combined with a motion

[6:29:19] to vacate the board's prior

[6:29:20] action. Then once that's

[6:29:21] happened, then there could be a

[6:29:23] new motion as to whether or not

[6:29:25] to give direction or take a

[6:29:25] position.

[6:29:27] But first I think you ought to

[6:29:30] formally reconsider and vacate

[6:29:32] the prior action on 71

[6:29:33] >>janet nguyen: I'll second that

[6:29:33] motion.

[6:29:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[6:29:35] right. Supervisor sarmiento

[6:29:41] asked for that curtracy. Oo

[6:29:43] curt -- that courtesy

[6:29:44] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, and

[6:29:47] I'll move that with a position

[6:29:50] to vacate our previously

[6:29:52] position to oppose

[6:29:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there

[6:29:55] any opposition to removing the

[6:29:56] previous recommended action?

[6:29:57] Seeing none, that is now gone.

[6:29:59] All right, is there some

[6:30:01] subsequent action we can take?

[6:30:01] Supervisor nguyen?

[6:30:03] >>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,

[6:30:06] and I don't oppose auditing. I

[6:30:08] completely support it. However,

[6:30:09] I mean, I'm not a lawyer, and

[6:30:10] this is last minute. I'm just

[6:30:12] reading this, there's a

[6:30:16] provision on here on the

[6:30:20] auditing part with the 4 to

[6:30:22] fifth item. It says whether the

[6:30:24] orange county health authority

[6:30:26] governor structure policy or

[6:30:28] practice it appropriately

[6:30:29] preserve the ability of

[6:30:31] executive staff leadership and

[6:30:33] staff able toedly conduct

[6:30:34] contracting procurement

[6:30:36] functions consistent with the

[6:30:38] governing bodies oversight role.

[6:30:40] And I'm not a lawyer. I'm the

[6:30:41] only one on this board that's

[6:30:45] not. I look at that as almost

[6:30:47] allowing executive staff to

[6:30:48] contract without going before

[6:30:52] the board. And it could be

[6:30:53] interpreted that way. I -- you

[6:30:56] know, I think -- and that's

[6:30:57] where I think there's some of

[6:31:00] these nuances -- because,

[6:31:02] remember, the previous bill that

[6:31:04] was done when I was up there had

[6:31:09] some problems, and these nuances

[6:31:11] as interpreted later could cause

[6:31:14] a big problem. And why that

[6:31:18] would be a concern for me if

[6:31:19] executive staff are allowed to

[6:31:21] just do contract without going

[6:31:22] to the board regardless of the

[6:31:24] amount is not what I've been

[6:31:26] supportive on this board at the

[6:31:29] county. We change our

[6:31:31] procurement process. We changed

[6:31:32] our purchasing to have that

[6:31:34] oversight by the county here,

[6:31:37] and I cannot support something

[6:31:40] that would allow caloptima staff

[6:31:42] to do whatever -- contract

[6:31:44] whatever, regardless of the

[6:31:45] amount, regardless of the

[6:31:48] contract, but that's my, just,

[6:31:50] first take at this. I don't

[6:31:52] know. So I think not taking a

[6:31:54] position right now I'm hopeful

[6:31:56] that maybe we can scct assembly

[6:31:58] man or maybe we could, you know,

[6:32:00] get our counsel here and maybe

[6:32:01] cal optima downtown opine on

[6:32:04] what does that interpretation

[6:32:06] means. I mean, I'm not asking

[6:32:07] for it right now but I'm saying

[6:32:09] that I think it needs some time

[6:32:20] to vet it through..

[6:32:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: so I'm

[6:32:23] not sure where we are. I'm

[6:32:24] reading through this. It seems

[6:32:28] to me it's pretty much too much.

[6:32:29] I don't really understand some

[6:32:31] of these things. And I think it

[6:32:37] does not fully understand how

[6:32:38] caloptima works. We've done a

[6:32:41] lot of good works performing

[6:32:42] things already. We've had a lot

[6:32:44] of audits over there already,

[6:32:45] expensive ones. So maybe the

[6:32:47] position is to support if

[6:32:48] amended. Would that be the

[6:32:50] right time kind of thing?

[6:32:51] >>vincente sarmiento: we have

[6:32:53] somebody from our ledge team,

[6:32:55] jonathan, do you mind coming up

[6:32:56] and maybe giving us some

[6:32:57] guidance? What would you

[6:32:57] suggest.

[6:32:58] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[6:32:59] MR. CHAIRMAN, first I had a

[6:33:01] question. I had already asked

[6:33:03] for the floor. If I could ask

[6:33:04] my question. Thank you. It

[6:33:09] looks like section 2b is the

[6:33:10] independent external audit shall

[6:33:12] evaluate at a minimum all of the

[6:33:13] following. And then what

[6:33:17] follows is sections 1 through 8.

[6:33:21] And that is what they're asking

[6:33:24] the audit to cover. So it's not

[6:33:27] giving direction as it relates

[6:33:29] to the contracting and whether

[6:33:30] or not -- what's the value of

[6:33:33] the contracting. It's just

[6:33:36] suggesting that one of the

[6:33:39] categories of the audit be the

[6:33:41] health authority's governance

[6:33:44] structure policies and

[6:33:46] procedures and ability to

[6:33:49] conduct contracting and

[6:33:50] procurement functions. So

[6:33:52] that's how I read it. It

[6:33:54] doesn't read to me to be

[6:33:56] requiring anything other than an

[6:34:00] audit of those practices..

[6:34:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: well,

[6:34:05] some of this is odd the way it's

[6:34:11] worded, and it talks about the

[6:34:12] independent conducted interviews

[6:34:15] with caloptima staff by an

[6:34:17] anonymous opportunity to share

[6:34:19] their feedback. I don't know if

[6:34:21] that's standard audit practice.

[6:34:22] I think that's a little bit far

[6:34:25] out, that type of stuff. So I

[6:34:26] think this isn't right the way

[6:34:37] it is.. Do you have a comment

[6:34:41] here please?

[6:34:42] >>speaker: I wanted to clarify,

[6:34:44] the language in front of you is

[6:34:45] negotiated with the senate

[6:34:49] health committee and the authors

[6:34:53] office.. It is not in print

[6:34:55] yet. So the bill that is in

[6:34:58] print we would like to remain

[6:35:00] opposed to -- previous to the

[6:35:02] board action but if this

[6:35:05] language was accepted and was

[6:35:08] presented from the senate health

[6:35:09] committee tomorrow we would be

[6:35:13] able to remove our opposition to

[6:35:15] it..

[6:35:16] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

[6:35:18] those unless appled would be

[6:35:18] right

[6:35:19] >>janet nguyen: well, that

[6:35:21] change what is we just took an

[6:35:22] action on. This would have been

[6:35:23] helpful to know that this was

[6:35:29] not in print. So if -- we just

[6:35:30] rescinded a vote on a bill that

[6:35:34] is currently in print, which we

[6:35:37] still want to oppose. You know,

[6:35:39] either we go back to opposing

[6:35:43] the current printed version, and

[6:35:45] I think we should do that, and

[6:35:47] then wait till in one officially

[6:35:49] goes into print and then, you

[6:35:51] know, have that discussion. But

[6:35:54] we hear the board. We hear your

[6:35:54] concerns. And so we will at

[6:35:57] least have those conversations

[6:35:59] up in sacramento tomorrow. So

[6:36:00] would you like to make that

[6:36:04] motion again?

[6:36:05] >>vincente sarmiento: to

[6:36:07] continue with our opposed

[6:36:10] position because this is a draft

[6:36:13] language that hasn't been

[6:36:14] approved. We don't have the

[6:36:15] final version. So the actual

[6:36:17] version is still the same

[6:36:20] version that this board

[6:36:21] unanimously opposed. Thank you

[6:36:24] for clarifying that..

[6:36:25] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I can

[6:36:27] ask another clarifying question

[6:36:28] just so that we don't.

[6:36:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: we're

[6:36:32] getting too deep into the woods

[6:36:32] here.

[6:36:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:

[6:36:33] because we need to know -- it's

[6:36:35] a timing question. Like when

[6:36:37] will -- do you expect this to go

[6:36:39] into print? I mean, is this

[6:36:42] expected to go into print

[6:36:43] tomorrow?

[6:36:46] >>speaker: you've hit the point.

[6:36:47] So we would expect this to go

[6:36:50] into print and that's what we

[6:36:50] would need direction on the

[6:36:51] board from, to remove the

[6:36:54] opposition if this goes into

[6:36:54] print.

[6:36:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay

[6:36:57] >>janet nguyen: so usually when

[6:36:58] it goes into print, it's

[6:37:01] probably going to be some time

[6:37:02] tonight, usually around 8:00

[6:37:04] P.M. Or a little after it will

[6:37:09] go into print. And so kind of

[6:37:15] awkward maybe we -- maybe the

[6:37:20] motion, if I can suggest, is

[6:37:22] oppose the current printed

[6:37:26] version and then the unprinted

[6:37:29] version we will -- if that does

[6:37:34] get printed officially to the

[6:37:36] public, but today we will then

[6:37:38] include that mowing as then we

[6:37:41] would withdraw our current

[6:37:42] opposition to the current

[6:37:44] printed bill. If that makes any

[6:37:44] sense.

[6:37:45] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

[6:37:46] think that makes sense.

[6:37:48] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll

[6:37:49] second it, but this is really,

[6:37:50] really messy because had we not

[6:37:52] received this, we just would

[6:37:54] have gone forward, we would have

[6:37:55] met tomorrow and we would have

[6:37:56] worked this out anyways. So

[6:37:58] we're going through this just

[6:38:00] sort of fortuitously that we

[6:38:01] have this draft language and

[6:38:04] we're trying to solve this in

[6:38:05] anticipation of we don't know

[6:38:08] what. I mean, something MAY

[6:38:09] happen. Maybe the author

[6:38:10] changes his mind and says, look,

[6:38:12] I don't want to have this draft

[6:38:14] put into print -- into an active

[6:38:17] bill. So anyways, look, I'll

[6:38:18] support it for the sake of just

[6:38:20] moving this forward but I think

[6:38:22] this is an exercise that's very

[6:38:22] odd..

[6:38:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: county

[6:38:25] counsel, do we have a clarity on

[6:38:29] the motion?

[6:38:32] >>leon page: I understood it as

[6:38:33] opposed, continue to oppose

[6:38:37] unless amended..

[6:38:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: as

[6:38:39] printed and wasn't there

[6:38:41] something about if this new

[6:38:43] version comes in? Or do we do

[6:38:49] nothing on that? M

[6:38:53] >>leon page: we're no longer

[6:38:58] opposed..

[6:39:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have a

[6:39:02] motion and a second over here?

[6:39:04] Is there any objection to that

[6:39:05] position? Okay. Have fun

[6:39:07] tomorrow. Enjoy sacramento.

[6:39:10] And, you know, all call me if

[6:39:13] you need any commiseration. And

[6:39:16] we'll see where we go with this.

[6:39:19] Okay. Now, back

[6:39:20] back to

[6:39:21] memorial adjournments. Who has

[6:39:25] any? Anyone have -- supervisor

[6:39:26] sarmiento, go ahead

[6:39:27] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

[6:39:28] you, MR. Chair. I know it's

[6:39:31] been a long day, but this is one

[6:39:32] I, you know, is hard to make. I

[6:39:35] know it's somebody that we knew

[6:39:37] well. Before we adjourn today's

[6:39:38] meeting, I'd like to take a

[6:39:40] moment to honor the life and

[6:39:44] legacy of augustine know chung

[6:39:46] gao who passed away on

[6:39:47] JUNE 7th, 2026 at the age of

[6:39:50] 80. He lived a life defined by

[6:39:52] faith, perseverance, service and

[6:39:55] compassion, born in denang

[6:39:56] vietnam he overcame

[6:39:57] extraordinary challenges and

[6:39:59] hardships before emigrating to

[6:40:00] the united states where he built

[6:40:03] a new life dedicated to helping

[6:40:04] others and strengthening his

[6:40:07] community. As a respected

[6:40:07] pharmacist, community leader and

[6:40:09] advocate, he touched countless

[6:40:10] lives through his work and

[6:40:11] generosity, through his

[6:40:14] leadership at delta drug

[6:40:17] pharmacy and his support of

[6:40:18] civic engagement, cultural

[6:40:19] preservation, black APRIL

[6:40:20] commemorations, human rights

[6:40:22] advocacy and vietnamese language

[6:40:24] media he became a trusted

[6:40:25] admired figure throughout orange

[6:40:26] county's vietnamese american

[6:40:29] community. Those who knew him

[6:40:32] often spoke of his humility,

[6:40:34] kindness and deep commitment to

[6:40:36] family he instilled in future

[6:40:37] generations, the values of

[6:40:39] faith, education, integrity and

[6:40:41] public service leaving a leg

[6:40:42] guess will continue to inspire

[6:40:44] others for years to come. As we

[6:40:47] reflect on his life, we extend

[6:40:48] our heart-felt condolences to

[6:40:50] his family, friends, and all

[6:40:52] those mourning his loss. MAY

[6:40:54] they find comfort in the

[6:40:55] tremendous impact he made and

[6:40:57] the many lives he touched. In

[6:40:59] closing I ask that we remember

[6:41:02] augustine know for his courage,

[6:41:04] his generosity, his unwavering

[6:41:06] commitment to serving others.

[6:41:07] MAY his memory be a blessing and

[6:41:09] his legacy continue to inspire

[6:41:11] us all. I'll be asking that we

[6:41:21] adjourn in his memory..

[6:41:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: all

[6:41:23] right. Any others?

[6:41:25] >>don wagner: thank you,

[6:41:27] MR. CHAIRMAN. Let me start with

[6:41:31] jill cooley. She was a woman

[6:41:32] immense creative energy and

[6:41:33] unwavering integrity. After

[6:41:34] graduating from the university

[6:41:36] of redlands in 1960, jill began

[6:41:38] her career as a second-grade

[6:41:40] teacher. She later earn

[6:41:42] administer's in educational

[6:41:43] psychology serving as a

[6:41:45] dedicated school psychologist

[6:41:45] for tustin unified school

[6:41:46] district for over two decades.

[6:41:49] In 1963 she married dennis

[6:41:51] cooley, together they built a

[6:41:53] life in villa park raising their

[6:41:55] three sons eric, mark, and kirk

[6:41:58] while fostering deep, lifelong

[6:41:59] roots in the community. They

[6:42:01] also enjoyed sponsoring foreign

[6:42:03] students through rotary. Jill's

[6:42:05] primary architect at the villa

[6:42:06] park community spirit is a

[6:42:08] charter member of the villa park

[6:42:11] rotary club, the villa park

[6:42:12] community services foundation

[6:42:15] and peo chapter s. She applied

[6:42:17] her graphic design talents and

[6:42:19] leadership skills to countless

[6:42:20] initiatives. Known

[6:42:22] affectionately as the hippo

[6:42:23] lady, the title she proudly

[6:42:25] displayed on her license plate,

[6:42:28] she was a dedicated collector of

[6:42:29] hippopotamuses, mirrors and

[6:42:31] kaleidoscopes, and yes, I looked

[6:42:34] it up, it's hippopotamuses, not

[6:42:42] him potami -- hippopotami. She

[6:42:45] had a 100-person extended family

[6:42:46] and friends she loved and

[6:42:48] traveled the colorado river with

[6:42:49] for over 50 years. She was an

[6:42:52] elder statesman of her city

[6:42:54] leaving behind a family she

[6:42:55] adored and a community

[6:42:56] transformed by her decades of

[6:42:58] service and friendship. Please

[6:43:02] keep the cooley sons and their

[6:43:04] family in your thoughts and

[6:43:05] prayers. And I have one more

[6:43:09] for les ritter. Les was born in

[6:43:10] baltimore in 1929. He moved to

[6:43:12] southern california in 1951 to

[6:43:14] begin his long career with

[6:43:16] southern california edison,

[6:43:18] retiring 38 years later as

[6:43:18] superintendent of the fullerton

[6:43:24] district. During his there he

[6:43:25] served as superintendent in the

[6:43:27] arrowhead district and then

[6:43:28] manager in the santa ana

[6:43:28] district and later as

[6:43:30] superintendent in the el toro

[6:43:32] district and then in fullerton

[6:43:34] until his retirement in 1989.

[6:43:35] He was known and respected for

[6:43:36] his innovative and creative

[6:43:38] problem solving skills which

[6:43:40] significantly improved the

[6:43:43] orange county sec electrical

[6:43:45] distribution system. Les said

[6:43:46] his greatest pleasure was in the

[6:43:47] promotion and development of the

[6:43:48] young men and women who worked

[6:43:52] for him. In 1985 he married his

[6:43:52] wife jane, and they moved to a

[6:43:54] beautiful home in yorba linda.

[6:43:57] He was a lifelong tennis player

[6:43:59] and fan traveling locally and to

[6:44:00] new york and australia for

[6:44:01] championship tournaments. He

[6:44:03] and jane traveled extensively to

[6:44:04] always return to their yorba

[6:44:06] linda home to enjoy entertaining

[6:44:08] family and friends. He is

[6:44:10] survived by jane, his daughter

[6:44:11] christine, two grabbed

[6:44:13] daughters, tan that and kelly,

[6:44:16] three great grandchildren, and a

[6:44:18] great, great grandson. His

[6:44:22] dying wish was to be entered at

[6:44:24] new orange county cemetery in

[6:44:26] anaheim hills once he's

[6:44:28] completed. And we will honor

[6:44:30] that wish shortly. Thank you,

[6:44:31] mr. CHAIRMAN.

[6:44:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank

[6:44:33] you, supervisor wagner. All

[6:44:34] right, I think we're at the end

[6:44:37] of our meeting. We will not

[6:44:38] meet again unless there's a

[6:44:38] special meeting called until

[6:44:42] next AUGUST. With that, we are

[6:44:53] adjourned. Thank you.

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