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Good evening everyone.
>> Let us bow our heads please.
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Most holy and everlasting God our
father, we thank you for your many
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blessings that you have bestowed upon
us. Thank you for all that you have done
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for us this day. And we ask you to
continue to bless our city. Bless us.
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Keep us strong, focused. In your name we
pray. Amen.
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» Amen.
>> Amen.
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We we're so happy to see everybody that
join us on tonight and we're happy to
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see those that join us virtually.
Welcome to city council.
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Our first item is consideration of
August 18, 2026
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city council minutes.
>> Men council, I move for the adoption of
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the minutes.
>> Motion has been made by Councilman Kit.
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» Second.
>> Second by Councilman KN. All in favor?
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» I.
>> Any oppose? Eyes have it. The motion is
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carried.
Our next item is recognition of
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September community of character trait
and the trait is reliance. Reliance is
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the ability to adopt well and bounce
back after facing stress, hardship, and
[1:14]
trauma. We're going to ask everybody to
please uh adopt this community character
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trait.
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» Resilience, I'm sorry. Resilience.
We have an appearance tonight by Mr. and
[1:30]
Mrs. Randy Connor and Miss Shauna Curry,
the Cinema Special Events Order. And
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we're going to ask you if you would come
to the podium, state your name and your
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address, please.
[1:55]
Hello. My name is Chen Curry.
>> And don't forget we have five minutes.
[2:00]
Five minutes, you know, to speak.
>> Okay.
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» Yes. Yes, ma'am. Come on. How y'all
doing?
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» Great. How are you?
>> Good. Good.
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» All right.
>> And my name is Randy Connor.
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» Uhhuh.
>> Georgia Connor. Yeah. Okay.
[2:17]
» Okay. So, we actually um is here on
behalf of the cinema like you mentioned
[2:23]
um in regards to the audience that has
now changed to 12:00 p.m. Um and we were
[2:31]
wondering um if it could be back the
time it was, which was 2:00
[2:37]
um a.m. Well, everybody out by 2:00 a.m.
Um we actually have a venue hall um and
[2:45]
a lot of people that do have weddings,
parties, we sponsor a lot with the
[2:50]
colleges both state and claflin. Um and
that time is just not allowing for as
[2:55]
far as business-wise
um with us um actually being beneficial
[3:01]
from the business.
>> Okay. Now you're speaking on behalf of
[3:05]
the cinema.
>> Yes.
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» Also okay.
>> Yes. These are my parents.
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» Okay. Okay.
Yes, sir.
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» Well, first of all, I want to commend
you all for all your hard work.
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» Yeah. Thank you.
>> But I wanted to talk to you all
[3:17]
concerning the coordinates because not
does it only
[3:22]
affect our business, we have eight other
families that we pay that is on our
[3:27]
payroll that it's affecting when we
can't uh run to 2:00 in the morning
[3:33]
because a lot of the college students
that uh come here, they're here only for
[3:38]
a short while.
our record. We've been here uh running
[3:44]
this cinema now for about four years.
>> You all can say there has not been any
[3:49]
incident at our establishment.
Um our track record speak for itself
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and I didn't understand
by us and our record and if uh Chief
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Austin is here was here I don't know if
he's here or not.
[4:06]
Uh we are always transparent with him
when we have big events. We call him up.
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We talk to him. We are proactive about
everything that we can so we can protect
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these young ones that their parents had
sent here to be in our town in
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Orangeburg. So we do everything that we
can for security talking to Chief
[4:25]
Austin.
We make sure the these young ones are
[4:30]
well looked after. We make sure security
is there. If they c if they can't
[4:35]
provide it, my wife provides it because
we want to make sure when they come here
[4:41]
or come to our establishment, they go
home safely. Now, we're not God. We
[4:45]
can't prevent unforeseen occurrences.
And I'll use for instant and it's not
[4:51]
the time state had it incident. It
wasn't 2 o'clock in the morning. It was
[4:55]
during the day.
I mean, Patel had his incident. It
[5:00]
wasn't 2 o'clock in the morning. So time
is not because what happened at 2
[5:04]
o'clock in the morning can't happen 2
o'clock in the day. All we can do as
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individuals is try to protect those who
are at our establishment and we do the
[5:13]
best we can with the assistance of the
uh city police and chief Austin. Thank
[5:19]
you for helping us with all you do. Um
so we do everything that we can. I don't
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understand where or it came or why we
have been uh drafted into this because
[5:32]
at first we were told when we went down
that we were with uh the same as the uh
[5:37]
the social clubs and things like that.
They're back open to 2 in the morning
[5:43]
but then they said no cinema you fall
under a different they put us in the
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park and recreation.
I don't know if it's one thing I learned
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about rules and laws.
It's [clears throat] because somebody
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came up with their opinion.
They spoke to the right person and they
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talked to enough people. They made it a
rule or a law and they don't think about
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who it affects.
Our establishment as is a place that is
[6:11]
doesn't bother the neighbors. Y'all
don't have complaints from neighbors
[6:15]
calling. All the crowd is this or this
and that. uh because we know what the
[6:21]
requirements is. Young ones come here a
lot of them help pay for their colleges
[6:28]
by having these event
literally I've talked with them you know
[6:34]
Mr. Conor, when I have this event, this
helped me pay for my books.
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» Or it also, we can look at it this way,
it trains them
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» because a lot of them move off to become
big promoters in other states. When they
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start on a small environment like they
are with us,
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» we're training them. So when we tell
them that, oh, or our city is trying to
[6:57]
tell them and oh, you can't do it. you
got to um because of a small criteria
[7:03]
that have been set into place that
doesn't make sense to me.
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» Like I said, I'm not a college ready
graduate, but I have common sense. Make
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it make sense to me.
>> Make it tell me why is it set at two?
[7:15]
Crime don't stop at 11:59. Chief Austin,
I tell you that. But we can prevent what
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happened out of our establishment when
they're there. Now, what people do after
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they leave our establish, not on us.
We can only do the best we can to make
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sure while they're there that we take
care of them.
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» And uh
>> look at our track record. It speaks for
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itself. We've been there four years. I
mean, you know, unless you all want
[7:40]
another empty building because we got to
make the payments on that building. you
[7:43]
all. My wife had to give people back
individuals their money back uh this
[7:49]
last month because that crowd don't come
in till 11:30
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» and that's affecting how I provide for
my family, my wife and I. Like I said,
[8:01]
we have other eight other people on our
payroll. But all I'm saying is please
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reconsider it because it is not only
affecting our livelihood is affecting
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we're in a college town. We have to make
and I'm sorry you all I thought I turned
[8:14]
this on.
>> Mr. Connor, let me say this to you
[8:17]
before uh your time ran out.
>> Yes. [snorts]
[8:20]
» Um changing the the rules of of of that
time it it it requires a lot of
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dynamics, but we will take what you're
saying on advisement and we'll bring all
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the appropriate people into into the
table and and discuss it.
[8:36]
» Okay.
>> Yes, sir.
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» Okay. Are there any [clears throat] It
may be some questions from the council
[8:42]
members.
[8:46]
» Uh thank you, mayor. You mentioned
something about two different
[8:51]
classification, a social club. I didn't
hear you right.
[8:54]
» Yeah. At first, we were considered under
the classification with the social club.
[9:00]
Matter of fact, I think Chief Austin, if
you correct me, at first they were
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shutting everybody down at 11:59.
But then by them being under the state
[9:10]
regulation, then they can't be shut down
because their criteria is different. But
[9:16]
we were cons we were considered to be
under them. But after they were able to
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go back to two, they moved us over into
the park and recreation under park and
[9:26]
recreation, which I don't understand.
And that's another thing. 45 days for
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these young ones that is only here for a
short time to get a uh
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» permit, a temporary business license. I
go down to the highway department and
[9:42]
get my driver's life. I got the right
criter criteria. I get it that day. If I
[9:47]
want to buy a house, it don't take me 45
days. If I got everything in line, I
[9:51]
meet the I meet the criteria. So if they
meet the criteria, why is it 45? the
[9:56]
other lawyers, you just rather tell them
I don't want you to have your event been
[9:59]
here in Orangeburg. That's what I'm
gathering from it.
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» Second part, please.
>> Yes.
[10:08]
» It's just hard for me to understand.
It's two different socialist.
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» Well, listen to me. Listen, listen to
the question, please.
[10:14]
» Yes.
>> Are there other businesses that are open
[10:18]
after
the hour of what you speaking of?
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» Everybody Everybody's gone at that time.
cuz you're saying there's some social
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clubs somewhere open.
>> Social social bars, I guess, like clubs.
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» Yes.
>> Oh, priv. Now I got you. Private clubs.
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» Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir.
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» But if they're renting from us, would it
be considered that they're probably
[10:44]
having an event?
>> Right. Why can't it be private?
[10:46]
» Well, we we we need to take that under
advisement with the whole entire council
[10:51]
and everybody. We can't answer you now,
but we will take it on advisement and
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get back with you.
>> Yes, sir.
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» Okay.
>> And Dr. Clue has a question for you.
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» Yes, sir.
>> When did you receive the notice?
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» This been this has been in
>> they said two years now.
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» Two years. But uh we have been uh
>> operating because uh we have someone who
[11:16]
was understanding we're allowing us to
go a little longer but we went and got
[11:20]
permission. We just didn't do it. We
went and got permission and they allowed
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us to run past the 12.
>> Before then, how many incidents have
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you, you know, has occurred in your
facility? How many?
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» No incidents.
>> None.
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» None.
>> And there's no police report.
[11:40]
» Not that other than uh Chief might have
had to come out there one time. Somebody
[11:45]
was breaking in cars, but
>> not in our establishment. Not for
[11:50]
violence. None.
>> Okay. Thank you.
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» Thank you, sir.
>> All right.
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» And we'll get back with you, sir.
>> All right.
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» Yes, sir.
>> Yes, sir.
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» Thank you.
>> We have another appearance from Miss
[12:03]
Desiree Ross, the Ross Center, Special
Events Ordinance.
[12:08]
» Good afternoon.
>> Good afternoon.
[12:11]
» Uh, I'm coming on the same subject. Um,
and I've typed it down so I can stay on
[12:17]
track. Um, mayor, Councilman, Chief
Austin, of course. U, my name is Desiree
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Ross and my husband and I, we own the
Ross Center on Russell Street. The
[12:28]
location is 1535 Russell Street, right
next to the old bowling alley where they
[12:32]
all revamp and everything. My husband
and I have been taxpayers through
[12:37]
multiple businesses in the city of
Orangeburg, and the Raw Center is one of
[12:41]
our longest businesses that we've been
paying taxes on, almost 18 years.
[12:46]
And so we've worked hard to maintain a
great reputation and operate very
[12:51]
responsible. I don't want no issues in
the building or in the parking lot. I'm
[12:56]
here respectfully to ask the council to
consider the ordinance requiring events
[13:00]
and venues like the Raw Center that now
have to end by 11:59 sharp. You have to
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be out, cleaning included.
I understand the city's concerns about
[13:12]
noise, alcohol, crowds, safety. Of
course, number one,
[13:18]
I'm not asking to remove those concerns
and protections. I'm asking you to give
[13:22]
a responsible business that follow the
rules and responsible opportunity to
[13:28]
operate a little later.
And I've met with the city and public
[13:33]
safety. They have reviewed my contract
and the requirements I place on anybody
[13:39]
that rents my facility.
My contract is strict and I enforce it
[13:43]
to the fullest.
I'm proactive about security. We have
[13:49]
cameras inside and outside the facility.
If I see that something is not going
[13:54]
well, I will call public safety myself
to just get somebody to drive through
[13:58]
the parking lot because the crowd might
not look as pleasant.
[14:03]
The 1159 restriction is are is hurting
our ability to compete with other venues
[14:09]
that are not in the city. We're
competing with venues outside the city
[14:14]
limits or in the county where advanced
hours are not as restricted or monitored
[14:22]
as such as in the city.
If customer can celebrate later
[14:28]
somewhere else, guess where they going
to go? Somewhere else.
[14:32]
And so that means I lose revenue, me and
my husband, but the city loses revenue
[14:38]
too because I can't pay the taxes if I'm
not making the money.
[14:43]
Think about a 40th, 50th, even a 60th
birthday party, anniversary, wedding
[14:49]
reception. Adults aren't necessarily
trying to party until 2, 3:00 in the
[14:54]
morning.
They just may be simply celebrating
[14:59]
until midnight, then clean up and be out
by 1 or even a little bit later. I
[15:05]
experienced this myself. I had a 60th
birthday party on August the 8th at my
[15:10]
own building. I'm not going to pay for
another building if I got one.
[15:14]
[laughter]
But even in my own building, during my
[15:17]
party, my own birthday party, I felt
rushed because I was watching the clock
[15:21]
and trying to get out by what time?
11:59.
[15:26]
Now, my event was non-alcoholic. We had
fun. We had dancing. We had honorary to
[15:32]
me for ministry aspects, but I was still
watching the clock. I don't want to get
[15:37]
in trouble in my own building. Okay? But
I'm asking the council to consider
[15:43]
responsible compliant event venues to
operate to at least one:00. Put
[15:48]
reasonable safeguards on it. Require
security when appropriate. require
[15:52]
compliance with noise noise ordinance
and public safety. And if a venue does
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not follow these requirements,
take the time away.
[16:03]
Then I'm also asking that you
distinguish the event time from the
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cleaning time. So, if an event is until
1:00, give them the extra hour to clean
[16:13]
up the facility for the people that own
the facility so it can be brought to the
[16:18]
original condition because if not, it
causes threats on the owners.
[16:23]
» I'm also asking I'm not asking to be a
nightclub, a bar. I'm asking a fair
[16:31]
opportunity to operate a legitimate
small business, pay the property taxes
[16:37]
like I'm supposed to, pay the business
expenses like I'm supposed to, maintain
[16:42]
my building, but I have to generate
revenue in order to continue to do that.
[16:47]
I don't want the RAW center to become
another empty building on Russell
[16:52]
Street.
I want to continue maintaining it,
[16:56]
paying taxes, and contributing to this
awesome city. So, I'm respectfully
[17:01]
asking the council to review the
ordinance that was placed after CO
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and give responsible venues and follow
the rules an opportunity to operate to
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at least 1:00
um with a reasonable safeguard and
[17:16]
cleanup time. Give those that who follow
the rules a fair opportunity to compete.
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survive and continue in this great city.
>> That's me.
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» Thank you.
>> You're welcome.
[17:29]
» Maybe someone have questions. Dr. Clue.
>> Dr.
[17:32]
» Yeah. Thank you for the presentation. I
will ask you the same question that I
[17:37]
asked the other gentlemen. When did you
receive the notice?
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» I never received the notice. It was
brought to me through public safety.
[17:45]
» Okay. Uh how many citations have you
received on that building?
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» Zero.
>> Thank you, ma'am.
[17:51]
» Yes, sir. Any more questions?
>> Uh, hold on.
[17:58]
» I may have a question maybe directed
towards Mr. Evering. When was this
[18:00]
change? You said about two years ago,
>> I believe. So, yes, sir. I'm not on the
[18:05]
perfect time, but that's what I heard.
>> Approximately two years ago. Do we have
[18:08]
some type of problems that were
that [clears throat] we changed it?
[18:14]
» I'm going to have to look into that. I
don't recall right off hand when it was
[18:18]
changed.
might have been changed before I got
[18:20]
here.
>> It was changed before you got here.
[18:22]
» Yeah, I think so.
>> We had a lot of homicides, fighting,
[18:26]
killing, shooting all of Columbia Road.
And um and and what happened is that
[18:34]
when public safety would go out there,
>> especially somebody got killed, they
[18:38]
would have to work from that time. If it
happened at 11:00, they had to work from
[18:42]
11 to 6 in the morning to kind of get
all the evidence and whatever all they
[18:47]
do.
>> Yes, sir. and and that was and we had a
[18:51]
lot of cases coming that if y'all can
remember during that time and that's
[18:55]
when it came you we recommend to us that
we change the time so that they if
[19:00]
something happened that give them time
to work the case and get the evidence
[19:03]
and bring it back in to us. We had a lot
there was a lot going on at that
[19:07]
particular time. It's been it's been
more than two it's been a while back
[19:11]
» that we Yeah.
>> I don't know. But uh but we we we're
[19:15]
taking this under advis under advisement
because we do need the business in this
[19:19]
city and we're listening to you. Okay.
>> You all you all and we'll we'll discuss
[19:24]
it among ourselves and we'll get back
with you all.
[19:27]
» Thank you so much. Okay. Mayor Butler C.
Oh.
[19:30]
» Yes sir.
>> Mr. Thank you, Mayor. 11:59 is the time
[19:36]
uh you all have to be out of
>> everybody clean up included. Yes, sir.
[19:42]
What time can you go in? You gave me an
ending time. What time can you go in?
[19:46]
» Well, at my event, they can go in at
8:00. I do daily rentals only. And so
[19:51]
that way they can set up at their
leisure. Most events start at 6 or 7,
[19:56]
but people are really stressing out
because if you start a party, you start
[20:00]
dancing, you got some old school music
going. You know how it is. You want to
[20:04]
hang around and and and you want to have
a great time with your birthday, but you
[20:09]
know 11:59 including cleaning up is very
difficult for 30,000 size building. They
[20:15]
have to mop everything and get every So
basically I tell them they have to be
[20:19]
out by 11:30 because I don't want to be
penalized for anything.
[20:22]
» And if you're up in age, you don't want
to be longer than 11:00 or 11:30.
[20:29]
» Thank you.
>> Did I answer your question, sir? I'm
[20:31]
sorry. I'm saying 11 11:59 this what
time you start you know have these day
[20:36]
parties and all those good things now
>> you got something
[20:38]
» but I I understand your
>> where your place at you know lifestyle
[20:44]
have changed
>> you know lifestyle has changed we used
[20:47]
to go home at 12:00
>> right
[20:50]
» now they don't come out until whatever
time
[20:53]
» right
>> oh not in my event [laughter] not in my
[20:56]
place
>> thank you ma'am
[20:58]
» anyone else nothing else but we will
take it under consideration and I'm sure
[21:03]
we'll get back with you as soon as
possible.
[21:06]
» Thank you.
>> We have some people standing up. There's
[21:10]
some seats over here by Jean Jean
newspaper and there some seats right
[21:16]
here on the front by Chief Austin if
y'all need to come and sit down. Some
[21:20]
people stand up there. She has a cane
and she needs to
[21:28]
chief. I don't mean for you to go in the
back. We might we need you up here.
[21:32]
[laughter]
[21:34]
Yeah. So, okay.
Thank you very much for
[21:43]
old business, Mr. Eye.
[21:48]
» Good evening, Mayor and Council.
>> Good evening. Good evening.
[21:52]
The first item in old business that we
have for your consideration is third
[21:55]
reading of an ordinance amending the
budget for the city of Orangeburg for
[21:59]
the fiscal year October 1, 2025 through
September 30th, 2026.
[22:06]
Uh there is one uh substantial change
that I want to bring to your attention.
[22:11]
Um so for the first reading we had the
amended the current I meant the
[22:16]
estimated amended budget at 23,79,310.
[22:22]
Uh for this reading we've added $6
million to that and that is $6 million
[22:26]
in grant funds and that is the the only
difference. So, um, it would take that,
[22:33]
uh, amended amount to 29,719
[22:38]
thou, I'm sorry, 29,719,37.
[22:42]
Uh, as far as our uh, budget to actual,
we're still tracking uh, as of last
[22:49]
week, we're at 80% of budget with about
a month left. So, we do anticipate
[22:54]
coming in under budget, but I did want
to bring that uh difference point that
[22:59]
difference out to you. Again, that's
just $6 million in grant funds.
[23:04]
» Okay.
>> Can you uh clarify um or add elaborate a
[23:10]
bit on the $6 million? You're saying
that's um grant funds that were
[23:16]
uh utilized or grant funds received? I
think it was re received. Is it correct?
[23:25]
» But budgeted, not used.
>> Budgeted but not
[23:27]
» but not used. Yeah,
>> but not used. Thank you for the
[23:30]
clarification.
[23:33]
» Those were grants we applied for and
received.
[23:38]
» Budgeted for not.
[23:44]
» Are there any more questions, concerns?
I was going to ask the same question she
[23:50]
asked.
>> Good.
[23:52]
» Okay. All right. If not, I would like to
read this ordinance, please. An
[23:57]
ordinance amending the budget for the
city of Orangeburg, South Carolina for
[24:03]
the fiscal year beginning October 1,
2025 and ending September 30th, 2026. We
[24:10]
would like to entertain a motion.
>> So move properly moved by Councilman
[24:16]
Grievous. Second.
>> Second by Councilman Kit. All in favor?
[24:20]
» I.
>> Any opposed? Eyes have it. The motion is
[24:23]
carried.
>> Okay. Item number three.
[24:27]
» Thank you, Mayor Council. Item number
three, uh, for your consideration is
[24:31]
third reading of an ordinance adopting
the budget for the city of Orangeburg
[24:35]
for the fiscal year October 1, 2026
through September 30th, 2027.
[24:41]
establishing the Hillcrest Golf Course
Enterprise Fund and renaming the service
[24:46]
department as a maintenance department
with some additional restructuring. Uh
[24:50]
before I begin, I want to take a moment
to recognize and thank all of our
[24:56]
directors. Um I think most of whom are
here uh with us e this evening. uh as
[25:02]
you know going through the budget
process is a very detailed I would
[25:07]
almost say arduous process but it's
something that is uh that we take very
[25:12]
seriously and I want to commend our
directors um Mishka Williams
[25:18]
» ask y'all to stand our directors y'all
stand up so we can clap our hands for
[25:22]
you
>> Williams is the finance coordinator
[25:25]
[clears throat]
>> Mr. Roger Brandt, he's over at the
[25:28]
service department. Of course, Chief
Austin over the Department of Public
[25:31]
Safety. We have Marty Con who's the
interimm uh parks and recreation
[25:37]
director and David Upton who's over our
public works department. So, they all
[25:41]
worked extremely hard meeting constantly
and hours and hours to try to put the
[25:48]
best uh budget possible forth for your
consideration. So I I do want to thank
[25:52]
and acknowledge that Teresa Williams
who's our assistant city administrator
[25:58]
who and HR director. So uh please join
me in thanking
[26:01]
» Can we throw Daniel in there? Daniel
right there.
[26:04]
» Oh yes, Daniel is [laughter] the one
I apologize Daniel. You so quiet.
[26:11]
» Stand up Daniel. So Daniel, please stand
up. Uh Daniel Driggers who did all all
[26:15]
the budget coordinators. [applause]
>> Thank you all. and Clay Clay back there.
[26:20]
He's unassuming with it.
>> Yes, sir.
[26:23]
» So, I I just cannot thank them enough
for for all their hard work. Um and so I
[26:29]
appreciate you guys. Thank you.
[26:34]
» So, um do want to just remind council of
some of the highlights of of this um
[26:43]
budget that we're proposing. Um, let me
get my
[26:49]
numbers here together. So, we have uh a
general fund uh proposed budget revenue
[26:57]
and expenses in the amount of 26 million
uh 376,756.
[27:04]
Uh this would include um a oper fund
transfer operate
[27:13]
amount of $1.9 million. Uh we would use
these funds to help cover uh cost. As
[27:20]
you might recall, we originally um
recommended uh transition closing the
[27:27]
forensics lab and also a 10 mil increase
which would have uh brought in about
[27:33]
$400 to $450,000
that we were going to use uh for capital
[27:38]
improvements for DPS. But this um this
$1.9 million is a one-time
[27:44]
non-reoccurring
uh transfer that will uh help cover
[27:51]
those uh costs and um
but I will again emphasize that it's
[27:58]
non-reoccurring and and so uh we will
need to either uh find ways to continue
[28:07]
to cut expenses or expand the tax base
tax revenue uh to make sure that we can
[28:13]
provide citizens with the services that
they currently expect. Um
[28:19]
we are not recommending uh any new debt
uh for 2027. Uh business license rates
[28:28]
remain unchanged. Um we do we have set
aside some funds for the update to our
[28:34]
comprehensive plan which is required
every 10 years. Um, we have included
[28:40]
funding in there for uh the employee
compensation program. Um,
[28:47]
we have included $38,000 for a kennel
for rescue animals. Again, $400,000 for
[28:54]
patrol vehicles and equipment. Uh,
$74,000 for safety equipment. $800,000
[29:01]
to refurbish two fire engines.
uh $220,000 to replace a graffle truck.
[29:09]
Um
$100,000 to replace HVAC uh
[29:16]
equipment in this building and in
Stevenson auditorium. So again, we would
[29:22]
recommend transferring the ARPA funds.
Now that that will eliminate uh funding
[29:28]
available to fund some of those projects
that were uh listed in ARPA. So I want
[29:33]
to be clear on that. We would have to
find other funding sources to
[29:38]
uh to do those projects. Um but as it
stands now, our recommendation would be
[29:44]
to transfer those funds uh to not
increase the millillage and keep the
[29:49]
millage at 109 mills.
>> Okay. Okay, sir.
[29:58]
» Thank you, Sydney.
[30:02]
I need to go back.
I'm glad that we're [clears throat] not
[30:06]
increasing the the rate, you know, the
tax on the people, but I need to go back
[30:12]
to to the audit that was done by the
agency.
[30:20]
As we move into this new
budget for the new fiscal year,
[30:28]
I will implore you and your department
to try very hard
[30:34]
to see that we have a CFO.
>> Yes,
[30:38]
» we need to have a CFO who will track our
expenses,
[30:44]
our revenue
and uh let us know how we are doing
[30:49]
financially. We need to have a CFO.
>> Then second thing is the hill crest is
[30:58]
like a nagging headache. Mhm.
>> We need to put our foot down on that
[31:05]
hill crest
and find a thorough solution, you know,
[31:10]
with our partnership with our state
to make sure that it's a viable
[31:19]
uh program for the city.
[31:24]
So CFO
and um Hillrest
[31:31]
and we need to go back to that audit
that we did in in terms of consolidation
[31:36]
because that was one of the proposals.
>> So we need to look around and see how we
[31:42]
can combine certain things [snorts]
>> if it's possible
[31:47]
you know because the more you have the
more expenses.
[31:52]
So we need to redirect
you know what we do financially because
[31:59]
when we look at our population is a
growing population
[32:04]
and most of the uh folks
either Medicare or
[32:11]
retired
you know so we cannot keep imposing and
[32:17]
that's what I said I'm glad we did not
increase you know the the millillage
[32:22]
And so we have to find a way to buffer
the zone. We have to find a way really
[32:28]
good, you know, uh because there limits
somebody can take with, you know, the
[32:34]
job unemployment rate is kind of a
little bit high in the, you know, in the
[32:39]
city of Orangeburg and also in the
county. So let's try very hard as we
[32:45]
move in into this new fiscal year to see
that we make a lot of changes
[32:51]
» that will be beneficial to us.
>> Yes, sir. If I can speak to a couple of
[32:55]
those um issues that you you raised. So
so CFO as you all know we we've hired a
[33:00]
a consulting firm that a search firm
that we've been working with to find a
[33:05]
CFO. Uh CFO is for a local government is
probably one of the most difficult
[33:10]
positions to fill. It's a very um niche
skill set if you will. Uh it is
[33:18]
extremely difficult to find a a a
qualified uh experienced candidate. And
[33:25]
so again, we we are working with the
consultant. They're engaged in that
[33:29]
process as we speak. Uh they are
interviewing uh doing preliminary
[33:34]
interviewing
and to identify candidates, finalists
[33:39]
for us to consider. So we are actively
uh engaged in that process. As far as
[33:46]
Hillrest is concerned, um yes sir, we we
certainly uh know that Hillrest has has
[33:54]
been an issue. Uh but quite frankly, the
investment in Hillrest has has been less
[34:00]
than what it it should have been over
the years. Uh we entered into a new
[34:04]
agreement with South Carolina State a
year or so ago. Uh, as a reminder, that
[34:08]
agreement does allow the city to um to
terminate that agreement if there are
[34:14]
two years of uh losses uh at Hillrest.
Um we uh have set aside South Carolina
[34:22]
State gave us $700,000 that we're using
to do the top tracer uh facility at
[34:29]
Hillrest that's in the process of being
constructed uh as we speak. We expect
[34:33]
that to be a significant revenue
generator. Uh you all set aside u $2.2
[34:40]
million in capital project sales tax
taxes that uh can be used for
[34:47]
improvements to Hillrest. So we believe
that once those significant investments
[34:54]
are made in Hillrest and we can improve
the facility uh that the usage will
[35:00]
increase and revenue thereby will
increase because we realize the
[35:04]
important asset that it is to the entire
entire community and has been for years.
[35:10]
Um but again if if it turns out that the
there are losses we have the option to
[35:18]
get out of the agreement.
>> Thank you.
[35:24]
» Any more? Go ahead.
>> Yeah. Just a um couple of questions and
[35:28]
clarifications. I want to start with the
last thing that you said in terms of we
[35:32]
set aside $2 million um for improvements
to Hillrest through the um penny tax.
[35:38]
Correct. Yes. But that was something
that was voted on by the public, right?
[35:41]
So it wasn't something that we set
aside.
[35:44]
» That that's a better way to put it. Yes.
>> So I do want to um make sure that we're
[35:47]
aware that the public had input in that
decision as well. Um in terms of the
[35:52]
surplus for the anticipated surplus for
this um year and do we anticipate a
[36:01]
surplus for this coming year? I know
it's hard to look ahead, but um with the
[36:07]
way that the budget is allocated, are we
working towards um seeing a surplus in
[36:13]
this budget for 2627?
>> That that is always the goal.
[36:18]
» Um and as you said, it's it's difficult
to to predict that because any anything
[36:23]
can come up. Um but yes, we we are
trying to budget accordingly to to make
[36:29]
sure that we have um and do all that we
can just like we did this past year. Uh
[36:35]
I commend our directors again for being
very uh mindful of of spending of trying
[36:41]
to um find revenue generating um
activities that can be done and which
[36:49]
has allowed us to be again about 80% of
our budget this year. Uh so it it's
[36:55]
difficult to to answer your question in
affirmative because I just cannot
[36:59]
predict the future. Um but we certainly
will do all we can
[37:04]
» and if there is a surplus where do those
funds go?
[37:07]
» Our reserves to to make sure that we
have build up the reserves.
[37:11]
» And what are the reserves used for
exactly?
[37:14]
» Just that [laughter] just reserves. Can
you kind of
[37:17]
» just just in case something happens, we
get a a bad storm or or what have you?
[37:23]
Um it's it's just for a rainy day, so to
speak.
[37:28]
» Thank you.
>> Any more questions? Any more concerns?
[37:36]
» Okay, I'm going to read the ordinance.
An ordinance approving the budget for
[37:41]
the city of Orangeburg, South Carolina
for the fiscal year beginning October 1,
[37:46]
2026 ending September 30, 2027,
establishing the Hillrest Golf Course
[37:52]
Enterprise Fund and renaming the service
department as the maintenance
[37:58]
department.
[38:02]
the motion. [clears throat]
[38:06]
Mayor and Council, I move to adopt the
ordinance approving the budget for the
[38:11]
city of Orangeburg, South Carolina for
the fiscal year beginning October 1st,
[38:17]
2026
and ending September 30th, 2027,
[38:22]
establishing the Hillrest Golf Course
Enterprise Fund and renaming the service
[38:28]
department as the maintenance
department.
[38:31]
» Motion's been made by Councilman Kit.
[38:36]
Do we have a second? Second by
councilman Koo. All in favor?
[38:41]
» I oppose. Eyes have it. The motion is
carried. One one opposed. [snorts]
[38:50]
Okay. Item number four.
[39:00]
» Good evening, Baron Council.
>> Good evening. Good evening.
[39:06]
Uh item number four under old business
is uh third reading of the ordinance to
[39:13]
consider a zoning district map change
from A1 residential single unit district
[39:20]
to B3 neighborhood business district for
property belonging to Donald G and
[39:27]
Steven M. Atkins located 1374 St.
Matthews Road. Tax map number
[39:33]
0174-18-09-00005.0000.
[39:43]
Uh as mentioned previously, the
developer uh John Pitus uh whom council
[39:49]
met at the uh second reading and the
public hearing discussed his plans for
[39:54]
uh the area in placing a coffee shop on
the property. Uh Mr. Mr. Pletus has a
[40:01]
contract with the property owners which
allows him to speak on their behalf. Uh
[40:06]
Mr. Pitus also presented his plans to
the planning commission during the June
[40:11]
planning commission meeting. Uh one
person from the community attended but
[40:17]
chose not to speak. After hearing the
plans, the planning commission voted to
[40:21]
recommend the resoning to city council.
Um I reached out to Mr. Pitus uh earlier
[40:28]
today regarding uh any outreach that he
may have uh done along with uh the
[40:35]
property owners and I was told that
there was no outreach that was done.
[40:39]
However, um as required, the city mailed
uh everyone in that area a notification
[40:47]
so that they were aware. Um
[40:53]
so that's the the third reading.
>> Thank you.
[40:56]
[clears throat] All right. Um, council,
do we have any discussions on this
[41:00]
matter?
[41:03]
» I think last time we made mention of
fencing that area, right?
[41:07]
» Yes, sir.
>> How far would the fence go?
[41:11]
» Um, I am not actually sure, but I can
find that out for you. Um, I'm not sure
[41:17]
about the the plans. I'm not sure if
>> they will have they will have to provide
[41:22]
a buffer along the um perimeters of the
residential areas and that business.
[41:31]
» Okay.
>> Will be a buffer there.
[41:34]
Have to run the entire length of the
property.
[41:38]
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Uh Mr. Aptton, let me ask you this
[41:42]
question. Has um what type of buffer of
uh has that been discussed in terms of
[41:51]
» Yes. Our zoning our zoning ordinance
requires a um a type B buffer which
[41:58]
would be a I think it's a a six-foot
fence and the type of buffer that the
[42:04]
type of material that that buffer or
fence has to be made out of is a stone
[42:09]
or concrete.
>> Okay,
[42:14]
[clears throat]
[42:17]
» that's it. Thank you.
>> You miss
[42:20]
anything?
[42:23]
Okay. If if it's no more discussion, I
want to read the ordinance. An ordinance
[42:27]
[clears throat] to approve a change to
the zoning district map from A1
[42:34]
residential to single unit district to
B3
[42:38]
neighborhood business district for the
property belonging to Donald G. And
[42:44]
Steve Ais located at 1374 St. Matthews
Road. tax map number 0174
[42:53]
1809005000000
[42:57]
and provide for related matters. If we
could entertain a motion, please
[43:03]
[snorts] move for approval.
>> Uh motion been made by Dr. Koo.
[43:09]
» Second.
>> Second by uh uh Councilman Kit. All in
[43:14]
favor?
>> All right. Any oppose?
[43:18]
Three,
four, three, four. You You oppose,
[43:23]
» huh?
>> You oppose.
[43:25]
» No, sir.
>> Okay. 3 4 3 4 Three against it.
[43:32]
» Motion. Motion's carried.
[43:38]
» Okay. Okay. Number um item number five
uh under new business uh is a resolution
[43:47]
for the city administrator to negotiate
and enter a contract with we Martin
[43:53]
contracting for the reconstruction of
police camp road due to the flooding
[43:57]
that occurred in 2024.
Um we issued an RFP in April of this
[44:04]
year. Um but we received very little
response. So that um because of that we
[44:10]
reissued the RFP in June of this year.
Um bid notifications were placed on the
[44:18]
skebo site which is the state uh
business opportunity site as well as our
[44:24]
website for any interested party to view
and respond. Um there were six big
[44:30]
criteria that was used. Uh one is proof
of commercial liability insurance. Uh
[44:37]
timeliness of the RFP response. Uh the
experience qualifications and ability to
[44:44]
perform the requested services. Uh the
cost references and any deat
[44:51]
demonstrated compliance with uh state
and federal laws for a total of 100
[44:57]
points. uh including myself, there were
four evaluators and we had a total of
[45:03]
five bid responses.
Um
[45:08]
so we recently sent a letter to um
Martin uh We Martin Contracting
[45:15]
informing them that they received the
highest overall score based on the
[45:20]
evaluation criteria and that we were
recommending them to council to be
[45:25]
awarded the contract. Um, we did receive
monies from FEMA um towards the
[45:33]
reconstruction of the road. Um, and that
was based on an estimate that was given
[45:40]
to us by a local contractor. However,
they decided or they chose not to
[45:44]
respond to the RFP.
[45:49]
» And that this is over there by the
skating ring,
[45:52]
» correct?
>> Over there. Okay. And you're repairing
[45:54]
the road.
>> Yes.
[45:55]
» Oh, good. Good. Good. Okay. Now, any any
questions or concerns while I read the
[46:02]
ordinance resolution?
Okay. Resolution approving the city
[46:06]
administrator to negotiate enter into a
contract with E Martin Contracting LLC
[46:14]
for the reconstruction of the police
camp road and approving for other
[46:20]
related matters. Would you like to
entertain a motion, please? So move
[46:24]
mayor
>> and properly moved by Councilman uh
[46:26]
Hannah.
>> Second second by Councilman Koo. All in
[46:29]
favor? Any opposed? Eyes have it. The
motion is carried. Thank you.
[46:34]
» Thank you.
[46:50]
Good evening. Good evening again, mayor
and council. Um, item number six for
[46:55]
your consideration
is first reading of an ordinance to
[46:59]
amend the city code to add a new article
regulating electric scooters, electric
[47:04]
assist bicycles, electric micromobility
devices, party bicycles, and shared
[47:10]
mobility devices. establishing
definitions, operating rules, equipment
[47:15]
and safety requirements, dismount zones,
parking and obstruction rules, rental
[47:21]
and shared fleet regulations and
enforcement and penalties. Um,
[47:27]
as you all know and uh uh uh Councilman
Hannah has has been uh very instrumental
[47:34]
and admit that uh the city uh become
proactive as it relates to electric
[47:42]
mobility devices. Um and so our city
attorney uh has proposed or put together
[47:49]
an ordinance for your consideration.
I'll just highlight a a few of the
[47:55]
uh items in the ordinance. Um
so it
[48:02]
um it basically would require that
devices these electric uh mobility
[48:08]
devices would be allowed to uh operate
in roadways if the speed limit is 25
[48:16]
miles per hour or less. Uh they must
ride on the right side of the road
[48:21]
obviously and obey all traffic controls.
Uh as it relates to sidewalks, um
[48:28]
bicycles, ebikes and scooters only would
be allowed to ride on sidewalks at a
[48:34]
speed of 8 miles per hour or less. They
have to yield to pedestrians. Um
[48:41]
provide audible signals to pass. Uh
microobility devices and mopeds cannot
[48:48]
operate on sidewalks. Uh there will be
no sidewalk riding in the central
[48:53]
business district which currently would
be designated as Russell Street or
[48:57]
sidewalks of paths bordering South
Carolina State and Claflin. Um anyone in
[49:04]
that capacity must dismount and walk. Um
equipment and safety. The devices must
[49:13]
have lights uh front and rear or
reflective material required after dark.
[49:19]
Functioning brakes. Um again they must
yield and provide audible signals before
[49:24]
passing pedestrians.
Um no one under 16 would be allowed to
[49:30]
operate these uh electric devices. And
if you're under 21, you must use a
[49:38]
helmet. Uh there can be no tampering
with ebike speed limiters or mislabeling
[49:46]
um modified devices. As far as
prohibited activities, uh rental rentals
[49:52]
um shared or dockless fleets of
scooters, ebikes, or micromobility
[49:57]
devices would be banned on the public
way. Um party bicycles like um pedal
[50:03]
pubs or beer bikes would be banned
outright on any public street, sidewalk,
[50:08]
trail or right away. Um parking or
abandoning devices that block pedestrian
[50:15]
paths uh would be prohibited uh along if
they are on um curb ramps, transit
[50:22]
stops, entrances or ADA
uh accessible features. As far as
[50:28]
enforcement violations equals uh public
nuisance and civil penalties escalate
[50:35]
within a rolling 12-month period,
starting at $75 for the first offense,
[50:39]
$110
uh for the second offense, $250 third
[50:43]
and $500
um for any subsequent offenses. Uh
[50:48]
non-compliant devices may be impounded.
Uh administrative hearings are available
[50:53]
for anyone who wants to um protest
within 14 days. The city may also pursue
[51:00]
injunctive relief. Um
as far as administration, it would
[51:06]
require the city administrator or
designate to review the article at least
[51:09]
every 24 months for changes in
technology, state law, and industry. And
[51:15]
of course, it would be effective upon
approval. Um, so those are just some
[51:20]
highlights of the ordinance. U we all
realize this still a work in progress,
[51:26]
but we wanted to put forth something for
you all to consider. Um, I would also
[51:31]
recommend that uh if if you all are
amanable to it that we um engage the
[51:38]
universities Claflin and South Ghana
State for their input as well once uh we
[51:43]
have a a working ordinance that that you
all are comfortable with.
[51:48]
Happy to answer any questions.
>> Oh yes, sir.
[51:53]
» Have you seen some people on the street
with their motorized wheelchair?
[52:04]
» So the question is would those would
those apply?
[52:09]
» Yeah. So what do you classify that?
>> Michael, you want to talk that?
[52:14]
Excuse me.
Yes.
[52:18]
» Uh I will look in the section, but the
intent was there be a carve out for um
[52:25]
handicap related devices.
[52:30]
» Can you read the first um what thing you
said? You said that they can ride on
[52:35]
public highways with a speed limit less
than 25 miles an hour. Did I hear that
[52:39]
correctly?
>> Yes. Roadways allowed if the speed limit
[52:42]
is posted at 25 miles per hour or less.
But they would have to, you know, obey
[52:48]
traffic signals and and and ride on the
the right side of the street just like
[52:53]
any anyone else.
>> Michael, is there anything in title 56
[52:56]
that contradicts that?
>> I apologize.
[53:00]
» I was looking for the other item. I
didn't hear that question.
[53:03]
» Is there anything in title 56 of the
state code of laws that prevents a ebike
[53:08]
or e- scooter to travel on roadways? Um,
as far as I recall, 56, other than
[53:15]
actual motor vehicles, of course, um,
deals with
[53:20]
golf carts, and I know in November it
will deal with side by sides, but I
[53:24]
don't recall that it covers anything.
>> So, the definition of a motor vehicle in
[53:28]
title 56 doesn't cover these is what
you're saying.
[53:31]
» Uh, no. And low um low-speed vehicles,
which is a separate section, would also
[53:38]
not I don't think would cover this as
well. Okay.
[53:43]
» Um, just a couple of clarifications. Uh,
so the sidewalks, pathways bordering
[53:49]
South Carolina State and Claflin, that
would include 601, correct? So, um, as
[53:54]
it's written, they would have to, um,
walk the bike along 601.
[54:01]
» Yes, ma'am.
and u riders under 16 may not operate an
[54:06]
electric scooter um or micro mobility
device. So if the device is made for a
[54:14]
child um they would still have to be 16
years of age to operate that device for
[54:20]
a child under 16. If the device is made
for a child under 16 they would still
[54:24]
have to be 16 years of age to operate
that device
[54:27]
» as
it's currently drafted. That is correct.
[54:30]
» Okay. And this is banning um any rental
companies coming into the city um to
[54:37]
rent ebikes to um citizens. Okay.
>> I had one more question uh for Chief
[54:45]
Alson. Have we had any collisions or
anything with any of these scooters or
[54:49]
ebikes?
[54:55]
» Mr. Mayor, members of council, uh we've
had a couple of incidents. Yes.
[54:59]
» Okay. But no one has been injured.
>> Okay. Are we seeing an increase in
[55:04]
these?
>> We are. We're seeing an increase in
[55:07]
ebikes and also we've noticed an uptick
in the thefts of ebikes.
[55:14]
» All right. Thank you.
>> And it may be hard to classify, but
[55:19]
would you say that the use is
particularly around the academic year
[55:23]
and when South Carolina State and
Claflin are in session?
[55:27]
» No, not particularly.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[55:31]
» And the universities will have to make
their own rules and regulations, don't
[55:37]
they?
>> They can, but again, I would I would
[55:41]
recommend that we engage them for their
input as well. Obviously, they do have a
[55:45]
lot of students who who use these um you
know devices.
[55:52]
» Uh thank you, mayor. It's e ebikes, e
scooters,
[55:58]
electrical,
two wheelers, three-wheelers.
[56:05]
First and foremost, the city is not it's
not our intent
[56:11]
to hunts on these
tools that some people use to to go to
[56:18]
go to work. Some of them use to go to
school and some of them use just to
[56:21]
plagiarize. If I was a young youngster,
I'd definitely like to have him in. But
[56:26]
there is a different there is a
discretion between an e scooter which
[56:31]
basically go 20 miles per hour and an
ebike which some of them go 75 80 miles
[56:38]
per hour.
So it's it's a little
[56:43]
wiggle room in there. And the intent was
just to make the citizens aware of this
[56:54]
influx of electrical use um tools,
bikes, you know, scooters
[57:03]
and that was only intent was so that we
could be safe.
[57:07]
If if you're riding along and you don't
know no rules, you don't use no rules.
[57:12]
This is not the Ottoman.
So kids will use whatever rules
[57:18]
that is posted and that was the justice.
We didn't have anything and when it
[57:23]
started out so only six cities in South
Carolina months ago had any rules or
[57:29]
regulation about ebike but since that
time
[57:33]
many of them have jumped on board and
investigating how ebikes
[57:38]
affects the daily lives of this city.
Some of them ride them in the malls. You
[57:44]
didn't have no rule against it. What you
going to tell a person if you didn't
[57:47]
have no rule?
>> Ride them in the parks, ride them
[57:51]
wherever they want to ride. All it is is
that give them some rules and
[57:56]
regulation. And that's what this
ordinance is all about. Giving rules of
[58:00]
regulation. We can protect each other,
the rider and the non. So we go along
[58:06]
with that. I just I'm happy to see them
and I know people can use them. I seen
[58:11]
them riding from what we call they
change the name so many time rope
[58:15]
hostana
>> electrolux western house whatever that
[58:19]
plant is down on 33 they changes names
I've seen them riding from there
[58:26]
40 50 year old people and then I also
see that same 40 50 year old people
[58:32]
riding a scooter that's running 20 miles
an hour and some of them are supposedly
[58:40]
made to ride 20 miles per hour 22 but
I've seen the scooter riding 35 and 40
[58:45]
it is zigzag so we just want to make
our citizens aware [clears throat] of
[58:50]
what's happening and just give a better
life livelihood
[58:56]
so we all can live with each other and
don't be conflicted on each other and
[59:02]
both of us know the rules
and we know that this ebike is uh the
[59:09]
the chief
[59:12]
Since you've been talking, I know there
have been some kind of collisions
[59:15]
somewhere about ebike somewhere and you
can't stop collisions. You just have to
[59:20]
make people more aware of it with, you
know, like wearing a helmet so they can
[59:23]
protect yourself if there's collision,
riding on the right side of the highway.
[59:28]
So, you know, put those restrictions in
order. That's all we ask. just have some
[59:32]
kind of restrictions so that we can
better ourselves in Orangeburg and we
[59:37]
can take the lead on knowing that we
have a town where people is safe to ride
[59:42]
the electrical
motorized vehicles. Thank you, ma'am.
[59:49]
» Okay. Any more discussions on this item?
If not, I'm going to read the proposed
[59:54]
ordinance. Regulation of electric
scooters, electric assistant bicycles,
[1:00:00]
electric micro mobility devices, party
bicycles,
[1:00:07]
and shared mobility devices.
[1:00:12]
We need a motion.
>> So move, mayor,
[1:00:16]
» properly moved by Councilman Hannah.
>> Second.
[1:00:19]
» Second by Councilman Kit. All in favor?
>> I
[1:00:24]
I'm standing at the moment.
>> It's so How many is in favor? Ra Shane
[1:00:29]
so I know.
>> Okay. One, two, three.
[1:00:34]
» You in favor?
>> Okay.
[1:00:37]
» You're in favor Jo.
>> Are you in favor?
[1:00:40]
» Uh, not right now. Not as it stands.
>> It's one, two, three, four.
[1:00:45]
» Four.
>> Yeah.
[1:00:46]
» Four.
>> Three.
[1:00:49]
» Motion is carried. [snorts] Eyes have.
Motion is carried.
[1:00:54]
You said the motion.
>> Yeah, it's four.
[1:00:57]
» Yeah, it's four of us.
>> Four of us. It's me,
[1:01:00]
» Miss K and
>> Yes.
[1:01:05]
» Scary. Okay. Thank you, Miss Evy.
>> Thank you, mayor.
[1:01:09]
» Okay. Okay. Uh, you want me to start?
>> Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm just here. Uh on
[1:01:15]
item number seven is a city council
determination of a grievance matter as
[1:01:20]
relates to DPS.
On July the 23rd, 2026, the city
[1:01:27]
grievance committee held a hearing
regarding Benjam Benjamin Jones and
[1:01:32]
Battalion Chief Winningingham
and the five uh lieutenant promotion
[1:01:38]
process.
Council has council has received and
[1:01:43]
reviewed the grievance committee's
findings and recommendations.
[1:01:48]
The committee recommended that the city
and department of public safety number
[1:01:55]
one adopt a comprehensive written
promotional policy.
[1:02:01]
clearly communicates the promotional
process, evaluation criteria and scoring
[1:02:08]
methodology to all candidates. Number
three, establish a standard scoring
[1:02:15]
system. Number four, ensure all
candidates receive the same information
[1:02:21]
material in and time and timelines.
Number five, require candidates to
[1:02:29]
acknowledge
their understanding of the promotional
[1:02:33]
process.
Number six, maintain complete
[1:02:37]
documentation of promotional and
selection selection process.
[1:02:43]
The committee also recommended that DPS
consider
[1:02:47]
re-administering the fire lieutenant
promotion process.
[1:02:53]
[clears throat]
Is is there is there a motion at this
[1:02:58]
time for city council to accept the
grievance committee's finding and
[1:03:02]
approve approve all of it
recommendations with the exception of
[1:03:07]
remministering the lieutenant uh
promotion process.
[1:03:13]
Um, mayor and council, I u move that we
um conclude the grievance process by
[1:03:20]
adopting the following. Um, as stated,
adopting a comprehensive written
[1:03:25]
promotional policy, clearly
communicating the promotional process
[1:03:29]
evaluation criteria and scoring
methodology to all candidates. Establish
[1:03:34]
a standardized scoring system. Ensure
all candidates receive the same
[1:03:39]
information, materials, and timelines.
require candidates to acknowledge their
[1:03:44]
understanding of the promotional process
and maintain complete documentation of
[1:03:49]
the promotional and selection process.
Again, I recommend that we um move to
[1:03:54]
conclude the grievance process as stated
and direct any further matters to the
[1:03:59]
city administrator to handle.
>> Motion has been made by Councilman
[1:04:03]
Grievous.
>> Second.
[1:04:04]
» Second by Councilman Hannah. All in
favor?
[1:04:08]
» Eyes have it. oppose.
>> I uh six
[1:04:14]
61 motion motion is carried.
>> Thank you.
[1:04:18]
» Thank you, Mayor.
[1:04:22]
» Mr. Holly, is there any DP?
[1:04:28]
Mr. Mayor, members of council, thank
you. And uh first of all, I want to uh
[1:04:34]
take the same opportunity as Mr. Evering
did and thank uh all of our team that
[1:04:38]
worked on the budget. I have called
their names previously, but certainly uh
[1:04:43]
this is uh a task that one person does
not do alone. It is certainly a team
[1:04:48]
effort. Uh even uh Sydney and I and and
staff's uh our regular meeting on
[1:04:54]
Tuesdays, we get together and we talk to
uh each other about the plans that we're
[1:04:58]
making. So uh the teamwork uh flows
throughout. Uh certainly Daniel is here.
[1:05:05]
uh he is uh largely responsible for
helping us put this together as well as
[1:05:10]
our budget director uh along with the
other members of the team that are not
[1:05:14]
here. So I want to say thank you to them
but I want to say thank you to city
[1:05:18]
council because you endure and I I do
mean in boldface capital letters
[1:05:24]
underlined endure countless hours of
meetings of us talking about these
[1:05:28]
things and uh all the projects that
we're doing and the challenges that we
[1:05:33]
face as a city. I thank you for your
time and your effort and and and uh
[1:05:37]
dedication to this. So I want to commend
you on that. Having said all that, uh I
[1:05:43]
committed to you that as uh we know more
about
[1:05:49]
how our budget uh uh will uh end up the
the the amended ordinance. I will point
[1:05:55]
out to you any changes that we've made.
And so you have at your your uh desk uh
[1:06:02]
a highlighted version of the amendment
that we will ask you to make uh to the
[1:06:08]
amended budget. Um and first of all I
want to point out uh where those changes
[1:06:13]
are. We are uh projecting a uh 76 point
76,655,000
[1:06:25]
uh instead of the $70,000
uh increase uh to cost of total sales.
[1:06:31]
And so that uh increase will uh be about
approximately $7 million increase to our
[1:06:38]
our uh cost of total sales. And then if
you flow down a little bit lower uh to
[1:06:44]
the cont contributed capital uh you see
a uh change from 9.8 million to 11.5
[1:06:53]
million uh in uh contributed capital
that is just uh more reflective of the
[1:06:59]
grants that we have received to date. a
more updated version of how much money
[1:07:03]
that we have uh that that has come into
us from the grants that we uh that we
[1:07:09]
use to do a uh major projects that we've
uh applied for over the last several
[1:07:13]
years. Um at the end of the day, the all
of that changes our net profit after
[1:07:20]
transfer and contributions from 22.9
million to 17.6
[1:07:27]
million. uh a net uh decrease of 5.3
million uh thereabout and I would ask
[1:07:35]
council uh to make the amendment uh I
think you have one in front of you
[1:07:41]
amendment that reflects the net profit
change uh from the 22.9 to the 17.6 Six.
[1:07:49]
» Okay.
>> Number eight.
[1:07:52]
» Number eight. Number eight.
>> Number Yes. Item eight.
[1:07:54]
» Yeah. An amendment to the budget for the
operation of the Department of Public
[1:07:59]
Utilities for the city of Orangeburg for
the fiscal year October 1st, 2025
[1:08:06]
through September 30th, 2026
to revise the net profit after transfer
[1:08:14]
and contributions from 22,943,057
[1:08:21]
to 17,642.
2,57.
[1:08:27]
» Motion has been made by Councilman Kit.
>> Second.
[1:08:31]
» Second by Councilman Kn. All in favor?
>> I.
[1:08:35]
» Any opposed? I have it. The motion's
eyes have the motion is carried. Thank
[1:08:42]
you,
>> Mr. Mayor, members of council. Likewise,
[1:08:46]
I want to point out on uh the projected
budget for 2026
[1:08:51]
27. Um I want to point out one the
revenue hasn't changed, but we do have
[1:08:58]
uh uh a change that we based on the the
uh impact fee adjustment that council
[1:09:06]
has passed to this point and we'll have
uh third reading on after this. Uh we
[1:09:11]
are revising our numbers that will
increase our uh final net profit after
[1:09:18]
transfer and contributions by 660,000
uh from 16.8 million to 17.5 million.
[1:09:27]
And I'd ask that you uh make that
amendment to reflect uh the changes.
[1:09:32]
» Okay. Amendment number nine, an
amendment to the budget for the
[1:09:36]
operation of the Department of Public
Utilities for the city of Orangeburg for
[1:09:41]
the fiscal year October 1st, 2026
through September 30th, 2027
[1:09:48]
to revise the net profit after transfer
and contributions from 16,887,396
[1:09:59]
to 17,546.
7,396.
[1:10:04]
» Okay. Motion has made been made by
Councilman Kit.
[1:10:10]
» Do we hear the second?
>> Second.
[1:10:12]
» Second by Councilman Grievous. All in
favor?
[1:10:16]
» I.
>> Any opposed? Eyes have. The motion is
[1:10:18]
carried.
>> Mr. Mayor. Um, pardon me. I should have
[1:10:21]
got you after you made the amendments.
You now need to pass both ordinance as
[1:10:26]
amended.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay.
[1:10:30]
We'll read we'll read the ordinance.
>> Yeah, just read it as
[1:10:34]
I I'll read it.
[1:10:39]
Let me see this.
[1:10:44]
Ordinance number eight, an ordinance to
amend the budget for the operation of
[1:10:49]
the department of the public utility in
the city of Orangeburg, state of South
[1:10:54]
Carolina for the fiscal year October 1,
2025 through o through September 30th,
[1:11:01]
2026. We like to entertain a motion,
please
[1:11:06]
move for approval of item number eight.
A motion been made by Councilman Ku,
[1:11:10]
second by Councilman Kit. All in favor?
>> I.
[1:11:14]
» Any opposed? Eyes have. The motion is
carried.
[1:11:17]
» Item number nine, an ordinance to adopt
a budget from the operation of the
[1:11:23]
Department of Public Utilities of the
City of Orangeburg, South Carolina for
[1:11:28]
the fiscal year of October 1, 2026
through September
[1:11:34]
30th, 2027. Adopt and amend electric
rates effective October 1, 2026.
[1:11:41]
Adopt and amend water rates effective
October 1, 2026.
[1:11:49]
Adopt and amend wastewater rates
effective October 1, 2026. We like to
[1:11:55]
entertain a motion.
>> Move for the adoption.
[1:11:57]
» Motion has been made by Council Kit.
>> Second motion. Second by Council Koo.
[1:12:03]
All in favor?
>> I. eyes have. The motion is carried.
[1:12:06]
Thank you,
>> Mr. Mayor, members of council. Item
[1:12:09]
number 10 is the third reading of an
ordinance that would uh increase the
[1:12:14]
impact fees for our water and wastewater
division. Uh there are no changes in
[1:12:19]
that ordinance. At this time, I'd ask
you to uh make third and final approval.
[1:12:25]
» Okay. Council, before I read this
ordinance, are there any discussions on
[1:12:29]
item number 10?
>> Um uh Mr. Mayor.
[1:12:32]
» Yes, sir.
I just want you to let the public know
[1:12:35]
that this is not for the current
customers, right?
[1:12:38]
» Yes, sir. Uh just uh as Dr. Koo uh uh
reminded us, Mr. Mayor, members of
[1:12:44]
council, and people uh in the public, uh
the increase in impact fees will impact
[1:12:52]
those customers who are new to the
system. So existing customers who are
[1:12:58]
not building new uh facilities, new uh
uh buildings, new homes, they would not
[1:13:04]
be impacted. It is for customers that
are coming onto the system so that they
[1:13:09]
can carry their fair share of the uh
burden that it costs the citizens and
[1:13:15]
the community to provide water and
wastewater services.
[1:13:21]
» Are there any more discussions on on
item number 10?
[1:13:25]
Okay. If not, I want to read the
ordinance. An ordinance amended section
[1:13:30]
number four five four uh department of
installation
[1:13:36]
sub session water impact fees sub
session D wastewater impact fees of the
[1:13:47]
general terms and conditions of
department of public utilities.
[1:13:52]
» Okay. would like to entertain a motion.
>> Mayor, councel, I move for the adoption
[1:13:55]
of the ordinance amending session four.
>> Um motion's been made by Councilman Kit.
[1:14:01]
» Second.
>> Second by Councilman Hannah. All in
[1:14:04]
favor?
>> Any oppose? Eyes have. The motion is
[1:14:07]
carried.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council
[1:14:09]
» and thank you, Mr. Har.
[1:14:13]
» Okay. At this time, we are getting ready
to go into an executive session. We will
[1:14:19]
discuss item number 11 in the executive
session. Discussion of matters relating
[1:14:24]
to the proposed location expansion of
the provision of service encouraging the
[1:14:30]
location of expansion of industrials and
other businesses in the area served by
[1:14:37]
the public body South Carolina code
section 347A
[1:14:43]
5 project Russell. We're going to we're
going to entertain a motion to go into
[1:14:48]
executive session.
going to do that just to say your
[1:14:53]
statement.
>> We miss kit want to have personal
[1:14:56]
privilege just for one minute please.
>> Before we go into session I want to
[1:15:00]
again thank the our administrator
the department of each department
[1:15:07]
chairpersons
all of department of public utilities
[1:15:12]
the chair all of you and the times of
democrat for the articles. Yes, the
[1:15:19]
» the beautiful articles that have been
put in the newspaper con um talking
[1:15:24]
about what we are doing and to the
audience we thank you for coming. We
[1:15:31]
appreciate having you here and we want
to say to you, we're working as hard as
[1:15:38]
we can and goodness knows we are moving
ahead. So, thank you so much. Keep
[1:15:45]
coming to see us and we will work for
you. Thank you. Now go ahead. [applause]
[1:15:51]
» Amen. All right. We'd like to entertain
a motion to go into executive session.
[1:15:56]
» So move
>> properly moved by Councilman uh
[1:15:59]
Grievous. Second.
>> Second by Councilman KN. All in favor? I
[1:16:04]
have the most good night and have a safe
trip home.