[0:09] Hey,

[0:20] hey, hey.

[2:04] Everyone, [cough and clears throat] I'll go ahead and call this meeting to

[2:07] order on September 8th, 2026 and ask our city clerk to please call role.

[2:13] » Commissioner Henderson, >> present.

[2:14] » Commissioner Smith, >> here.

[2:16] » Commissioner Thomas, >> present.

[2:17] » Commissioner Wilson, >> present. Mayor Bray,

[2:20] » here. I would ask uh Commissioner Henderson to

[2:24] do the invocation and then we'll remain standing for the national anthem.

[2:29] Our >> father and our God, again, we're

[2:30] grateful for the dies you've given us and for the blessings that we right now

[2:34] enjoy. We thank you so much, Father, for the privilege that you've given us to

[2:39] serve this community. Uh we pray now God that as we uh talk and discuss and share

[2:45] that you'll be in the midst of our uh discussion uh guiding our ideas, guiding

[2:50] our understanding. Father, we thank you again for this privilege. In Jesus name

[2:54] we pray. Amen. >> Amen.

[2:57] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[3:03] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[3:10] justice for all.

[3:17] » City manager, are there any additions or deletions to the agenda?

[3:21] » Mayor, none this evening. >> Okay. The first thing I have um

[3:26] [clears throat] is a proclamation I want to read. Not going to get up. Nobody

[3:30] else is here. But um October is uh city government

[3:37] month and uh this is something that we we recognize every year. Uh we spend a

[3:45] lot of time educating school children uh about about

[3:50] government, about city government. Uh we think that's important. All the

[3:54] commissioners go out and uh talk at the schools when asked and um so we are

[4:01] going to honor this proclamation tonight.

[4:04] And it states, "Whereas civics's education is important to ensure

[4:09] Kentucky children develop an interest and an understanding of local government

[4:14] and their role in the community. And whereas Kentucky academic standards

[4:19] for social studies require instruction on citizenship and local government for

[4:25] entry-level elementary school children. And whereas involving and informing

[4:31] students of local government programs and duties can provide an opportunity

[4:37] for entire families to connect with vital city services and programs.

[4:45] And whereas city government month is a civics's awareness campaign that

[4:50] educates elementary school students about city services by providing teacher

[4:57] lesson plans, students coloring and activity books and classroom materials.

[5:04] And whereas city government month calls on city officials to get involved in

[5:10] their local schools and in educating and engaging elementary school students in

[5:16] city government. Now therefore, I, George P. Bray, mayor of the city of

[5:20] Baduca, hereby [snorts] proclaim September 2026

[5:24] city government month.

[5:35] Okay, with that, uh, we have one person that wants to do public comments.

[5:38] Marshall Davis, come on up. >> Thank you.

[5:46] » Hopefully, this won't be like a broken record. Maybe I'll have a little

[5:49] different tune every time, but maybe we maybe together we can get this done. Uh,

[5:55] hopefully. I don't I guess we'll see you eventually.

[6:01] Thank you. >> Give you a summary of my

[6:13] » I'm Marshall Davis. I live at 7 Westville, Paduka, Kentucky. I

[6:17] appreciate the opportunity to be here, mayor, commissioners, manager, and

[6:21] clerk. Paduka's current business license tax taxes the top line of a business,

[6:26] not the bottom line, but also adds a tax break to the largest entities in Paduka.

[6:32] Every dollar that flows through a Paduka business, whether it ultimately ends in

[6:37] a profit or loss, is subject to the levy. The phase threshold increase is a

[6:43] welcome administrative improvement, but it does nothing to address the

[6:47] fundamental flaw structure. A business that loses money still owes city tax and

[6:53] small businesses continue to pay a dramatically higher effective rate than

[6:58] those large ones throughout the entire phase in period.

[7:03] Every business with gross receipts at or below the threshold. The vast major

[7:08] majority of Paduka small businesses pay the full schedule D rate of.3% in every

[7:14] year of the phase in the threshold increase delivers zero benefit to them

[7:20] while the relief flows entirely to businesses large enough to have receipts

[7:25] above the threshold and grows more generous the larger the business. By

[7:30] 2030, a business with 20 million in gross receipts pays an effective rate of

[7:36] 7.178% less than 60% of what the small business

[7:42] next door pays on its 500,000 in receipts. The same schedule repeats

[7:48] across every schedule or the same pattern. Under schedule C, a small

[7:54] restaurant, the neighborhood diner, at 400,000 in receipts, never benefits from

[7:59] the rising threshold, while the regional chain at 10 million sees meaningful rate

[8:04] relief each year. Kentucky law authorizes cities to impose occupational

[8:10] license taxes on either net profit or gross receipts. But the overwhelming

[8:16] consensus among Kentucky major cities is to tax on net profits. The amount

[8:22] actually earned after legitimate business expenses are deducted.

[8:27] Consider these municipal taxes. Lexington, Fyet County, net profit.

[8:33] Louisville, Metro net profit. Bowling Green net profit. Ashlin, Henderson,

[8:39] Hopkinsville, Covington, Owensboro, all net profit tax. Paducas gross receipts

[8:46] from 0.045% to a half percent. Every major Kentucky city business,

[8:54] every Kentucky city taxes businesses on what they actually earn,

[9:00] except Paduka. Paduka stands alone in taxing what merely passes through the

[9:04] business's hands, regardless of whether that business ends the year in profit or

[9:09] loss. I urge you to reconsider the effects of the gross receipts tax and

[9:16] implement a net profits tax. Thank you. Thank you.

[9:21] [applause] Thank you for being here.

[9:27] So, I'll move to the consent agenda. Items on the consent agenda are

[9:30] considered to be routine by the board of commissioners and will be enacted by one

[9:34] motion [snorts] and one vote. There will be no separate discussion of these items

[9:38] unless a board member so requests, in which event the item will be removed

[9:43] from the consent agenda and considered separately. The city clerk will read the

[9:48] items recommended for approval unless any commissioner would like an item

[9:53] removed for separate discussion. I would please I've got questions on F,

[10:00] H, and K. Sorry about that.

[10:05] » Okay.

[10:10] » Approve minutes for the August 25th, 2026 board of commissioners meeting.

[10:14] Receive and file documents. Personnel actions. A municipal order amending the

[10:18] fiscal year 2027 position and pay schedule for the full-time employees of

[10:22] the city of Paduca, Kentucky. A municipal order amending the job grade

[10:26] schedule for the employees of the city of Paduka, Kentucky for fiscal year

[10:29] 2027. A municipal order authorizing the mayor to execute a memorandum of

[10:33] agreement with the Commonwealth of Kentucky, Department of Military

[10:36] Affairs, Kentucky Division of Emergency Management for participation in the

[10:40] Kentucky Urban Search and Rescue Program. A municipal order authorizing

[10:44] the mayor to execute an amendment to the agreement with Tyler Technologies

[10:47] Incorporated for software services. a municipal order authorizing the mayor to

[10:51] execute a memorandum of agreement between the city of Paduca and the

[10:54] Commonwealth of Kentucky Transportation Cabinet Department of Highways in the

[10:57] amount of $100,000 for the South 21st Street Rehabilitation Program. A

[11:03] municipal order authorizing and directing the mayor to execute a lease

[11:06] agreement between the city of Paduka and Paduka Film Society for a lease of

[11:09] Maiden Alley Cinema [clears throat] located at 112 Maiden Alley, Paduca,

[11:13] Kentucky. A municipal order authorizing and directing the mayor to execute a

[11:16] lease agreement between the city of Paduca and River Heritage Museum for

[11:19] lease of the River Discovery Center located at 117 South Water Street,

[11:23] Paduca, Kentucky, a municipal order approving an employment agreement

[11:27] between the city of Paduca and Carol G for employment as the director of

[11:30] community development and authorizing the mayor to execute same.

[11:33] » So move >> second call.

[11:36] » Commissioner Henderson I. >> Commissioner Smith I

[11:39] » Commissioner Thomas. Hi. >> Commissioner Wilson. Hi.

[11:42] » Mayor Bray. Hi. >> Okay, let's take these one at a time.

[11:46] You want to take the ones that we pulled off first? So,

[11:51] » item F. Um, a proposed motion of the board of commissioners to approve a

[11:56] municipal order entitled approving agreements related to the fire

[11:59] department training facility water main project and authorizing the mayor to

[12:02] execute all documents related there too. >> Second.

[12:08] » Some moved. >> Move.

[12:10] » Oh. Oh, you took this is what you wanted.

[12:12] » So moved. >> A second. [laughter]

[12:14] » All right, then. >> You the one wanted.

[12:17] » I'm sorry. I I guess [laughter] I guess I got too excited.

[12:21] » He's got a question he wants to ask. [laughter]

[12:24] » He wants to ask it bad. >> No, just my question was I wasn't it

[12:29] wasn't clear to me from reading the write up is $280,000

[12:33] for a enhanced water supply for the fire training.

[12:38] » Yes. >> Can you explain that?

[12:40] » I can. So the the new site that we have, it does have water up to it, but the

[12:45] water that we have up to it is a 6-in water man that's over a 100 years old.

[12:50] Uh it cannot supply the training field with the supply that's going to be

[12:56] needed and hold up under the use that it's going to get. Uh it it's very

[13:01] fragile is I think how Jason would cash it. Uh while it but it does work today.

[13:08] So, they're going to run a new 8-in main from Caldwell up to the entrance of the

[13:13] training field. And what that proposes is that we split that cost and then from

[13:18] the from the point where it ends at the entrance of the training field on in

[13:22] that is our co that is our cost as a part of the development of the training

[13:26] field. But they're going to we're basically splitting the cost of the

[13:30] water man from Caldwell up to Tennessee in the entrance.

[13:34] So, and our half is 280,000. And I guess you're saying Paduka Water's paying 280.

[13:39] » They're they're paying up to 280 and anything over there, it's ours.

[13:44] » Okay. And then we have to then we will spend money once that site is developed

[13:49] out. Then we'll spend additional money to get that water man actually to our

[13:54] structure or structures on the fire. >> Correct. That that would be what what

[13:58] they consider private development of a site.

[14:00] » No, I could understand that. >> Okay. So, do we know how much this

[14:04] training all total how much the all in how much

[14:09] our cost will be to develop this fire training area?

[14:12] » I I don't have that in front of me tonight. No, sir. No.

[14:16] » Do you know when we could get that cuz uh I mean this is like the first part of

[14:20] that kind of going down that >> right. So,

[14:23] » well, and so we're getting we're getting ready to push push out an RFP to do some

[14:27] initial development of the site that'll give us um and we have a limited amount

[14:33] of money that's going to be left over because we weren't expecting to do the

[14:36] water man. Uh our goal was to do some development of the site and and start

[14:42] the construction of the tower, if not get the tower constructed. I do not

[14:45] believe we're going to have enough money to construct the tower now. Um, we're

[14:49] the goal is to get the site developed flat, get our water retention done, get

[14:55] our road network inside, and hopefully get the the extended water man that

[15:00] we're looking to operate off of inside the site. That's what I think we might

[15:04] be able to get done with this first phase. The as far as a bu a buildout

[15:09] after that, the biggest structures that we'll have sometime in the first would

[15:13] be the tower. And uh I've got an estimate of around 3/4 of a million for

[15:20] the tower itself. Um but we're not going to be building that today. It could be

[15:25] two years from now. So, you know, those numbers we'll have to we'll have to get

[15:29] them checked again. Eventually down the road we want a

[15:32] classroom facility on the site, but you know, I that's so far out I don't I

[15:38] don't know when we'll get to that. Will we I mean if we're going to put you know

[15:43] a million or whatever it is in the site will we will there be any kind of a

[15:48] agreement with other fire agencies where uh we can share the cost of developing

[15:54] this or is there have we done any work on that or

[15:58] » Well I think we we'll get grant we we can get access to grant funds and let

[16:03] make the site usable to others um but I I don't anticipate getting any money

[16:08] from any other fire departments to develop the site.

[16:12] » Okay. I would just I would like to propose that we pause action on this

[16:18] till we see a holistic plan of the the of what we plan on spending and doing on

[16:25] this developing the fire water tower. Well, if you go ahead, commissioner,

[16:31] » I was just going to say you said the Paduka water 280,000, but our park could

[16:36] be potentially more than the 280,000 >> a little bit. Yeah. I I don't it just

[16:40] you know that was an estimate that BFW did for us for that specific part of the

[16:44] project. Yes. >> So So

[16:47] » I don't have a hard number on that because the project hasn't been let yet.

[16:51] » Yeah. But just for clarification, this part here is separate from the

[16:55] development of >> of the site

[16:56] » of the site. And so what had been agreed by Paduka Waterboard and what I had

[17:00] shared over a couple of the briefings with the commissioners is that the

[17:05] estimated cost of this of this first of the redoing of the pipe uh would be 400

[17:12] and some thousand was which was estimated and it meant that Paduka Water

[17:16] was going to cover more than 50% of that cost on that estimate because ours was

[17:21] going to be up that and we were going to use the funds from the sale of the

[17:25] current site to help to to cover this offsite the cost offset that cost.

[17:30] » Haven't voted on some of this before. >> Well, you you voted on the develing the

[17:36] getting the land and doing the development and and selling the current

[17:40] site >> currently

[17:42] have been voting to go down this road. >> I just I'm saying this because I I've

[17:47] never I've not seen any dollar amounts. I don't think any of us know exactly how

[17:52] much it going to cost to develop this site out, what we're planning on doing

[17:55] and all. It just seems kind of premature to be going down this pathway. I don't

[18:01] mind going down the pathway, but I do would like to know how much we're

[18:05] planning on spending, how much development cost will be when we're

[18:08] planning on spending it. you know, just instead of just voting for the

[18:15] things, you know, one piece at a time without seeing a big picture. That's all

[18:20] I'm saying. I'm not saying there's a >> Yeah. This, you know, again, what I what

[18:25] we had talked about when this had come up on needing to replace. I had shared

[18:29] that in my briefings with the commission about this aspect of it and how we were

[18:33] we're were going that. Um and so you know from that aspect it's also similar

[18:38] to other economic development projects we've done with Paduka water uh to where

[18:42] there is a a [clears throat] failing portion of the system and we split the

[18:46] cost of of that. Uh this this also would allow for potential additional

[18:50] development in that area on the street side because it's

[18:53] » going to improve things for the southside development.

[18:55] » Southside development as well. >> Well, I'm just going to I'm going to

[18:58] jump in here. I mean, I don't think it's a bad thing, uh, you know, for us to

[19:03] take a pause and and make sure that we understand what the potential of the

[19:09] long-term plan is. Um, I mean, I think it's um I think it's I think it's a good

[19:17] some good input. Um, because I'm not sure all of us really understand what's

[19:23] I mean, we're just we're voting on this and we don't know what the long-term

[19:26] plan is. And I think I'd like to see what the long-term plan is, what the

[19:32] estimated cost of the the long-term plan is. And we could probably get that

[19:36] together in a in short order, you know, within um is there a time issue on this

[19:43] vote? >> I mean, that's how because Paduka Water

[19:46] took that to their board to vote for this

[19:48] » agreement. We pushed Paduka water along to get their side done so we could get

[19:52] started on work trying to get it trying to get this thing moving and the water

[19:57] line was unanticipated. I mean the development of the site we I don't I

[20:02] think I'll be able to address your concerns probably just in a smaller

[20:05] conversation maybe to help you understand but the the water line is a

[20:09] is a hijacked it here for us and we we've got to replace the water line in

[20:14] order to have water to the site. We can't do we can't do anything without

[20:18] that. And we have the sale of of the current site to JSA dependent upon uh

[20:24] we've already done that. We're signing that paperwork tomorrow, I think. Right.

[20:29] » And that money is going to be used to do the water line for the the new location.

[20:35] » So regardless of what it costs, we still we're going to end up doing this having

[20:41] to do this. That is that's what I'm understanding. We're gonna still have to

[20:45] do what you're saying. >> I I think you would as the southside

[20:48] developed, you'd end up having to do it anyway. Yeah. It's just timing and

[20:51] whether or not the the training fields accelerated the timing because we're

[20:55] developing trying to get that developed. >> But the the line that they have there

[20:59] today is over 100 years old, 6 in. And >> there's no line. Anyway,

[21:04] » that um I know we're selling the piece of

[21:08] property. going to use proceeds from that to pay for this as well as other

[21:12] development for the new uh training facility. But it's not like we have to

[21:17] spend this. I mean that money can be put aside for

[21:21] » a week, two weeks, a month, whatever till we have the whole picture what this

[21:25] looks like. >> Sure.

[21:26] » Correct. I mean there's no no hair on fire. But this is

[21:32] » Well, mine was >> my concerns. I'm okay.

[21:34] » Yeah. Oh, that actually no pun intended. [laughter]

[21:37] But I mean these are my concerns. They not may not be the concerns for the rest

[21:42] of the group. But that's just one thing that I just I just have never seen a

[21:47] whole holistic thing on the fire training, what we're planning on doing,

[21:51] the steps and all that and all that. So, >> any other discussion?

[22:02] » So, are you making a motion to postpone? >> I'll make a motion to postpone until we

[22:07] can see the holistic plan for the fire training.

[22:11] » Is there another motion on the floor? >> There is, but if that this would come

[22:15] first, we would take a vote on postponing and then if that fails, we'll

[22:20] go back to the original. >> Okay. And I guess one quick question

[22:24] before then. So would this throw off the timeline for getting this developed if

[22:27] we postpone? >> Well, it does for the timeline I had.

[22:30] Yes. But I I mean I I kind of feel like we're already behind anyway because

[22:34] we've we've moved forward in selling the existing site, not putting any more

[22:39] money into it. We've got to have a training site for our abilities to be

[22:43] able to train. Uh the new the a new tower is a is the most critical

[22:48] component of that. and I'm working as expeditiously as I can to

[22:53] try to get that done. Yes, >> Lindsay, before we vote, would we

[22:58] clarify a yes vote or a no vote, what that stands for?

[23:02] » Uh, so right now we have a motion on the table from Commissioner Smith to

[23:05] postpone consideration of this item until we have an understanding of the

[23:10] long-term plan and estimated cost. >> Correct.

[23:14] » Um, that would need a second. A yes vote would mean we will postpone this item

[23:18] for a later date.

[23:23] Is there a second to that motion?

[23:28] Motion dies for lack of second. So we'll go back to the original motion and that

[23:32] would be to approve [snorts] this going forward. And we have a motion and a

[23:36] second on that already. >> Call roll.

[23:39] » Commissioner Henderson. >> Yes.

[23:41] » I. >> Commissioner Smith.

[23:42] » No. >> Commissioner Thomas.

[23:44] » I. Commissioner Wilson. >> Hi, Mayor Bray.

[23:47] » Hi. >> Thank you.

[23:50] » Now, um, let me just make this. I think we need to see a plan. I think we need

[23:56] to see something documented on what the long-term plan is for that. I think it's

[24:01] it was a good discussion and and it shows that we've got commissioners

[24:07] reading um, you know, our stuff before they come and so I appreciate that. And

[24:13] so, um, let's try to get something together.

[24:16] » Yeah. And that's we're already working. I mean, we've got, you know, BFW under

[24:20] for engagement of services. And so, that's the process already in place.

[24:25] » Cool. >> Good. Good. I read too. He's not the

[24:27] only [laughter]

[24:31] » commissioners [laughter] said plural. We >> Yeah, I didn't mean it like that.

[24:38] [laughter] Okay. Let's move to the next uh next

[24:42] item. A proposed motion of the board of commissioners to adopt a municipal order

[24:45] entitled a municipal order authorizing the mayor to execute a contract for

[24:49] services with Paduca Junior College Incorporated for the community

[24:53] scholarship program in the amount of $100,000.

[24:56] » So move >> second.

[25:00] My my comments slash concern is one that [clears throat] we talked about before,

[25:05] maybe I've talked about before, is that u this fund I believe is pushing $3

[25:10] million at uh WKCTC and I just I don't think that they need

[25:16] the money. uh they may want the money, but I don't think that they I think

[25:20] they're overfunded and I don't think that uh we should be uh making

[25:26] contributions to that fund until that they're spending the money down to where

[25:33] the replenishment is needed. So that's my comment. And so I would propose uh

[25:38] not making the contribution this year

[25:42] monitoring their balance to see if uh I mean because we could spend that

[25:46] $100,000 paving for instance. But that's my motion and that may die from lack of

[25:53] second too. But I just want to >> Well, let's talk about that because um

[26:00] Commissioner Smith and I had uh had lunch um with Eric Stra who's

[26:07] um heading up that um that committee out and and Commissioner Smith is correct,

[26:13] you know, in that there's a lump sum of money out there in that in that fund and

[26:20] they spend they spend the earnings off that each year. But the fund is designed

[26:28] to be able to educate everybody from eighth grade on. So if the fund would go

[26:35] away, they could educate everybody that's in the eighth grade today through

[26:40] high school is the way the way I understand it.

[26:44] » Those five years, they would have the money to pay for them for their two

[26:48] years at PTC. >> Right.

[26:51] Um, you know, I've worked with WKCTC the last two years, urging them to um

[26:59] urging them to make sure that they spend as much of that money as possible.

[27:04] meaning [snorts] that we need to make sure that we've identified people who

[27:09] can use scholarships and need scholarships because a lot of the

[27:13] scholarships that are offered go unclaimed

[27:17] um because because the people go they go somewhere else you know they go to

[27:22] college at Murray or Western or UK whatever [snorts] and um so there's

[27:29] something about it that I think needs you know needs restructure uring um and

[27:36] I think at this point WKCTC has certainly listened to us but they've

[27:41] not changed anything and you know and I'll point out that I

[27:46] think the county provides an annual

[27:52] uh stipen to them of 125,000 I believe I'm correct and we're at 100.

[28:00] Um, but this comes up every year and so

[28:08] » I would just say I think if we were going to pull it and we should have

[28:12] probably had WKCTC to be here to give us their results. I know, you know, as far

[28:18] as what you're saying about the students, I know that they've had

[28:21] people, they have staff in the high schools working with them. They do

[28:25] » students. I think they have I might be saying this wrong. I think they have

[28:28] relaxed the rule where they had to sign up as a freshman to be eligible when

[28:32] they graduate so that they could make sure that every student that qualifies

[28:37] can do it. There are certain qualifications as far as GPA, not being

[28:41] in trouble, all of those kind of qualifications to make them eligible for

[28:45] it. But it is an an important tool that our community has to try to get more

[28:50] students to go to college to complete some type of degree or certificate or

[28:56] whatever that they can at WKCTC so they're at least getting one to two

[29:00] years more of school. And I I saw Bruce come in. I I know that it's used in our

[29:06] promotion of our community that we're, you know, it sets us apart from a lot of

[29:11] other communities that we have this program that some states have it, our

[29:15] state doesn't have that program, but our community does that we provide to your

[29:20] education for students in our community. >> Let me I just want to make sure that

[29:24] this doesn't get mischaracterized. >> I don't think there's anyone saying I'm

[29:28] saying it's good program. I'm just saying that they're overfunded. and to

[29:32] talk about it being such a great program and all it absolutely is, but that is

[29:37] not the topic that I'm bringing up. My topic is that it's overfunded [snorts]

[29:42] and that there's plenty of funding. >> They would say it they have to have that

[29:46] a certain minimum to ensure that they have the money to continue forward.

[29:50] That's what I've heard them saying. >> It's not their guaranteeing, it's our

[29:54] money. We're the ones guaranteeing. >> Well, us, the county, and then they have

[29:58] a lot of private donors. >> Correct.

[30:01] But that's just what I'm saying is I'm just saying that it's overfunded. They

[30:04] have >> uh they have a lot of funds. It's a

[30:07] great program. No doubt about it. But >> I don't want to be characterized.

[30:13] » If I'm saying it's not a good program, I'm supportive of the program, too. I

[30:17] just think it's >> and if we were

[30:19] » clearly overfunded. >> I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[30:21] » I think we've had this conversation before.

[30:23] » We have. >> We have. And I think if we were going to

[30:26] defund it or take it away, I think shouldn't this have shouldn't this have

[30:30] been a conversation that we've had with the school before tonight before we are

[30:36] prepared to vote on this? >> Well, had this conver

[30:39] » not only with the school, but I mean to me the time to have this discussion is

[30:44] when we're going through the budget, >> right?

[30:46] » And and so we budgeted 100,000 and doesn't mean we can't change it because

[30:51] we can. Um [snorts] but I think um you know I think you know a we should we

[31:00] should continue discussions with the school and we should make them even more

[31:05] aware that you know that we that we need to understand better how they're going

[31:10] to spend this money and whether or not they really [snorts] have to have this

[31:14] amount of money in a fund >> and um and B this discussion needs to

[31:19] come up before our next budgeting session.

[31:22] was what I would recommend. >> Well, I I think that we should I think

[31:27] my position the last time we talked about this was that we should make sure

[31:30] that we have enough money there to always do what it is that we're doing

[31:34] now. We don't I don't know that we'd ever want to get to a point where it's

[31:38] we're at the at the bare minimum or it becomes urgent that we have to do

[31:42] something. Let's just keep putting it there so that they can keep accessing it

[31:46] as long as they need to. >> Right. I agree. Just know, you know,

[31:51] that they've got a lot of funds. >> The money is there.

[31:56] » You know, the money is there. There's plenty of money there.

[31:58] » Keep on putting it in there. If the county gives 125, we ought to give 130.

[32:05] » Oh, wow. [laughter] >> Okay.

[32:09] » So, so, so maybe maybe we should just do what we going to do, right?

[32:12] » All right. Um,

[32:15] » so to be clear, the motion that's on the table right now is a motion from

[32:19] Commissioner Smith to postpone a vote to approve this allocation until

[32:26] » uh till next year. >> Until next year.

[32:28] » I mean, that was Yeah. >> So, you're you're essentially proposing

[32:31] that we skip the payment for this year. >> Absolutely. Yeah.

[32:35] » And u but I have a feeling that's going to die

[32:39] for lack of a second, too. M >> based on the conversation,

[32:42] » we have a second.

[32:46] » Okay, we are back to the original motion to approve that has um a motion and a

[32:54] second. >> Commissioner Henderson,

[32:57] » I. >> Commissioner Smith,

[32:59] » no. >> Commissioner Thomas,

[33:01] » I. >> Commissioner Wilson,

[33:03] » I. >> Mayor Bray,

[33:04] » I

[33:10] A proposed motion of the board of commissioners to adopt a municipal order

[33:14] entitled a municipal order authorizing and directing the mayor to execute a

[33:17] lease agreement between the city of Paduca and Seaman's Church Institute for

[33:21] lease of the Seaman's Church Institute located at 129 South Water Street,

[33:25] Paduca, Kentucky. >> So moved.

[33:28] » Second. Uh my comment on this is that I believe

[33:33] this piece is at $3 a square foot. >> I think that's right.

[33:38] » And the uh uh >> I don't think that price has gone up in

[33:43] how many years, [clears throat] but the uh um

[33:48] when I go through research, it's mostly AI stuff, but

[33:53] generally stuff is going for 12 to $19 a square foot. I know that um Seaman's

[34:01] Church has gotten a deal on their lease for they've been around for 30 years,

[34:06] but just seems like we should not be renewing leases for the same

[34:10] amount. We should be getting a little bit more than just the $3 instead of

[34:15] just turn around and re releasing things at the same rate. So, I'd like to see

[34:22] the lease go up a little bit closer to market rate than just stay the same

[34:28] without even anyone considering or discussing what

[34:33] that rate is. >> And I understand that their lease

[34:37] expires the end of this month. And is there a clause in their current lease to

[34:43] have them on a monthto month to 19? Okay.

[34:49] So, do you have a motion? >> Yes, I'd have I have a motion to pause

[34:54] this till we look at um better rate, a different rate than just to turn around,

[35:02] renew the rate existing. So, uh delay it for a month for us to take a good look

[35:06] at it. >> Okay, I'll second that.

[35:13] » Give me just one moment.

[35:19] ready for a vote on postponing for one month to take a closer look at

[35:25] the rates. >> Just just for clarification and

[35:28] Michelle, you can I don't know if you look. So, we've already approved the

[35:32] other leases with Paduka Film Society and River Heritage Museum.

[35:38] Currently, this lease is all tied up into one and and it was broken out uh to

[35:44] uh at the request of one of those lease holders to be able to have themselves

[35:48] the River Heritage. And so that's how we got into to breaking those out into

[35:51] that. I if we pause on this one, I don't know what impact that might have on the

[35:55] others since those have already been approved.

[35:57] » Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to I think talk about that tomorrow and

[36:00] figure out what the best course of action forward is for everybody. I mean,

[36:03] everybody's immunable to these changes and breaking them out. So, I think we

[36:07] can work through that. I I can't I don't know off the top of my head exactly how

[36:10] we'd have to think through that, but we can figure it out.

[36:13] » Have you already done a study of the lease? I mean, of the

[36:17] » So, we did >> been working on this for a while. I

[36:19] guess >> we did some market rates. Uh Chris and I

[36:22] did earlier this year with another lease. What we focused on with these

[36:25] leases are separating them out and making them shorter and then

[36:27] re-evaluating more of those the rate in three years. So the focus was more

[36:32] separating them out and making them shorter than and we know it's

[36:35] historically been under market. I mean that's the approach we've typically

[36:38] taken with them. >> Did the rates for the other two stay the

[36:41] same? >> Yes. Yeah.

[36:42] » So we we would only be raising the rate on Seaman's Church Institute.

[36:47] » Um the um River Discovery and Maiden Alley they do that dollar a year to

[36:51] lease. So they don't have a cost per square foot.

[36:55] » They rent their space for a dollar per year for the whole facility. young

[36:59] » and Seammens does theirs at so much per foot per square foot. So they already

[37:04] pay a lot more. >> Yes.

[37:06] » Than the other two.

[37:09] » And Commissioner Smith says the rates the market rate are anywhere from 13 to

[37:13] $19 a square. [clears throat] >> I don't think we can come up with

[37:17] » Yeah. I don't I think again the point is we want to study, you know, just take a

[37:22] pause. I'm not I'm not suggesting myself personally that that I mean Seaman's

[37:28] Church Institute is a great benefit to Paduka. I mean we're a Rivertown. They

[37:34] do fantastic work. And so that's been the argument from the beginning, you

[37:39] know, for a low rate was because of the but I I I don't think it's a bad thing

[37:44] for us to evaluate where we are in relation to market.

[37:49] » So, >> but they're a nonprofit, right? So, we

[37:53] would be looking at raising the rate or else we would just be approving it

[37:57] tonight, >> right? Are you

[37:59] » correct? I think I mean and we evaluate we come

[38:03] back and say, "Okay, we're going to vote on the same thing a month from now." But

[38:06] I think we need to understand the market rates

[38:12] and also we need to understand make sure the commission understands Seaman's

[38:16] Institute. I mean, they're a big they're a nonprofit, but they're a big

[38:20] organization. nationwide.

[38:23] » Well, I know they were heavily recruited when they were located here, I think, by

[38:26] Mayor Montgomery, uh, because it was a definitely an anchor for our community

[38:32] that the number of people that come in for the training definitely have a big

[38:38] economic impact on our community. So, I think there are other things to be

[38:42] reviewing as well, >> right?

[38:47] To keep in mind. I'm not saying to review that, to keep in mind.

[38:53] Okay, we have a motion and a second on the floor.

[38:55] » Would you explain? >> Uh, this is to postpone this item for

[38:59] one month. A yes vote will postpone for one month.

[39:04] » We say month just till the next to the October 2nd commission meeting.

[39:08] » That's a special call meeting. Have it on that one.

[39:12] » Commissioner Henderson. >> No.

[39:14] » Commissioner Smith. >> I.

[39:16] » Commissioner Thomas. >> I.

[39:18] » Commissioner Wilson. No. >> Mayor Bray

[39:21] » I. >> Motion passes.

[39:28] » Okay. Thanks for the excitement. >> Yeah. Sorry, I'll be quiet.

[39:33] » No, you won't. >> All right. Let's move on uh to municipal

[39:39] orders. A proposed motion of the board of

[39:42] commissioners to adopt a municipal order entitled a municipal order approving an

[39:45] agreement between the city of Paduka, Kentucky and Northwest Tennessee

[39:48] Disposal Corporation for the transfer, transport, and disposal of municipal

[39:52] solid waste and authorizing the mayor to execute the agreement.

[39:55] » So move second. >> Michelle.

[40:03] Right. >> Good evening. Uh mayor, commissioner,

[40:05] city manager, and city clerk. Uh Chris Yarbor would typically be presenting

[40:09] this, but of course he is unable to be here, so you're stuck with me tonight.

[40:14] So this is an important contract for us. This would be uh basically doing

[40:18] business with uh Republic is who they're more commonly known as that maintains

[40:22] our transfer station where we take our solid waste and recyclables and they

[40:26] would trans they're also responsible for transport transporting and disposing the

[40:31] solid waste and recyclables to the appropriate facility and then also

[40:34] running our citizen dropoff services. So um [clears throat]

[40:39] we did go out for an RFP. They came back as the lowest evaluated proposal

[40:44] and the service date. This is similar to those others where we're shortening the

[40:47] contracts. So the service date under this agreement would start in September

[40:50] 7th 27th of 2026 and it would be for 5 years with the option to extend for

[40:56] another 5 years. Um really daytoday the citizens and the businesses won't see

[41:02] much of a difference. This is more of a backend of you know where we take um our

[41:06] solid waste and recyclables that we pick up. The biggest change would be the

[41:10] recycling dropoff location. that would change effective on September 28th. Um,

[41:16] another change in the contract is that the um, Republic will actually be

[41:20] contributing to our spring cleanup day and so they'll be contributing $20,000

[41:24] each year. Um, oh, another thing I wanted to mention is uh, with the

[41:29] citizens not really seeing a change, the recyclables are staying the same that we

[41:34] currently accept both curbside and at the drop off facility. Um, I'm glad to

[41:38] talk a little bit about the drop off facility, but we do have a

[41:41] representative here from Republic who I think would like to say a few words if

[41:44] that's okay. >> Please.

[41:48] [clears throat]

[41:50] » Good evening, commissioners. For the record, my name is Todd Chamberlain and

[41:54] I'm the manager of municipal and government affairs for public services.

[41:57] Um, we're very excited about the partnership with the city going forward,

[42:02] not just to manage the MSW or the the trash and the waste that is generated

[42:06] and collected within the city limits, but also to work with you as a partner

[42:10] on recycling and expand that to drive uh additional diversions um through the use

[42:16] of our transfer station that we have that is in very close proximity to your

[42:21] public works facility. In fact, we sheriff line. So, um, you know, when you

[42:26] look at things and opportunities to, uh, to find partnerships, there's really

[42:30] some efficiencies and some productivity that you will benefit from with the

[42:35] proximity of this facility next door. Um, but as far as recycling goes, our

[42:40] company is feels that recycling and diversions are absolutely essential uh

[42:46] to the entire wholesale waste management process. Um, so much so that not only

[42:52] are we focusing on just the keys of plastics one through sevens, we divide

[42:58] [clears throat] it into fibers and rigids with aluminum and uh metal cans

[43:03] and that type of material. But what we have found is that through partnerships

[43:09] with our national accounts customers such as PepsiCo, Proctor and Gamble and

[43:15] a lot of large manufacturers, they simply [snorts] can't get enough plastic

[43:19] to meet their own postconumer use goals. So what we have done is we have volume

[43:25] from a variety of municipal uh contracts throughout the country. What we're

[43:30] trying to do is figure out how to get that volume, source it out. So what we

[43:34] have done is we've created four polymer centers and the plastics that we collect

[43:39] here in Paduca and other contracts um will find will ultimately be

[43:44] consolidated into volume that will go to these polymer centers where we will

[43:49] color separate wash flake and then provide back to these manufacturers who

[43:55] want an orange to make another orange Tide bottle. Um, so that particular

[44:01] product and specifically in the plastic side of our business, um, is really,

[44:05] really important to these folks. So rather than going out and having to

[44:08] create more [snorts] material and plastic, they want clear green for the,

[44:14] uh, squint bottles, they want um, they want the orange for Tide, they want a

[44:19] variety of these colors. So, uh, we have created these polymer centers and that's

[44:23] where we're going to focus where your material as well as hundreds of

[44:28] thousands of tons across the country are going to be utilized in that same way.

[44:31] So, we're excited about it. Uh, we're excited about the opportunity to work

[44:35] with you to expand recycling, not just in those aspects, but ones that make

[44:40] sense. I'm really, really big on finding diversions that make sense rather than

[44:45] just wishful cycling is what I call it. Um, I would love to be able to recycle

[44:51] absolutely everything. About 70% of what we throw away can be recycled. The

[44:54] problem is there's no markets for them. Unless you have a market and unless you

[44:58] have volume, unless you can manage the transportation cost, it's very difficult

[45:02] to drive that. So, we want to partner with you um and look for other

[45:05] opportunities, not just in the ridges and the fibers that we have today, but

[45:09] continue to push that envelope as much as we can. So, well, glad to answer any

[45:12] questions that you have. >> Yeah. So, thank you for being here. Uh

[45:16] we're excited to get started with you. Uh glass is kind of a constant um

[45:21] question from our customers is uh I'm sure there's more expense with that, but

[45:26] I know glass is recycled. >> It absolutely is recyclable. Um as I

[45:31] mentioned those things that you have to have a market for. I'll give you a good

[45:34] example. Across the river in Indiana up toward Indianapolis, they have a

[45:39] certainted plant uh makes fiberglass insulation. They're more than glad to

[45:44] take a lot of that glass. However, getting the glass from any point to

[45:49] there is significantly more expensive than the value of that. We believe that

[45:55] there is a recycling option for most items. It's whether or not the finances

[46:01] make it make sense. But in But I will also say this very loudly,

[46:07] doing the right thing often costs more money. It's just the reality of what we

[46:12] work in. So if it is important to the residents, if important to the

[46:15] administration, it's important to our company, then we can entertain those

[46:20] things and look at diversions and see how they would fit. But glass is one

[46:23] that I get asked so often. Mayor, um out west, they will take the blue, the the

[46:30] green, the clear, and the brown. They will crush it, tumble it, and it's used

[46:35] for ground cover instead of mulch out west where we use mulch of a variety of

[46:40] colors. They use that as brown ground cover. The trend just isn't that here.

[46:46] And I wish I had a better answer for you. You can use we we've we've done

[46:49] some test experiments uh and trying to find it, but it you just don't have the

[46:55] uses for it. And if you don't have an outlet for it, then it's difficult to

[46:58] make it make sense. We'd love to see it. So, another question I have is that, you

[47:04] know, Paduka has in the last [clears throat] four years, I guess

[47:08] you'd say three or four years, you know, we've really increased our curbside

[47:11] recycling. >> Understand that? Yes.

[47:12] » Uh we've all worked on that. Uh staff has worked on that. Uh a group of us

[47:17] went down and actually uh toured uh where our recyclables go.

[47:24] Where will our recyclables go with you? We will take the materials from our

[47:29] facility here in Paduca and we will transload those into tractor trailers

[47:35] and they will actually go to what used to be called recommunity in Memphis,

[47:39] [clears throat] Tennessee, but now it's just simply known as Republic Recycling.

[47:43] Um, and we have a facility there and it is at that point it will get segmented

[47:49] out and we will determine what materials go to which mills. If it is the plastics

[47:55] uh one through sevens, we're going to focus on trying to get those to one of

[47:58] our polymer centers, which the closest facility to to our area or region would

[48:04] be Indianapolis. Um you have to have a lot of volume.

[48:07] There's one in Indianapolis. There's one operational in um Las Vegas. Um Houston

[48:13] and Dallas are fighting over whether [snorts] they're who's going to get the

[48:15] next one. And then there will also be one in the Carolinas. So, but there will

[48:20] only be four facilities. So, I would just say, you know, we've

[48:23] done a good job of increasing that. So, anything you can do to help us increase

[48:28] that, educate our, you know, our residents on on recycling.

[48:33] Um, I was talking to my niece the other day and she called me when I was um

[48:38] bringing the recycling up the driveway and she said, "We've got a recycling

[48:43] can, but we're not we're not doing it." And so, that made me very sad. One of my

[48:50] relatives wasn't recycling. So, u my last question has to do with um uh where

[48:57] people take their recycling. It's moving from [snorts] out in Littleville um out

[49:03] to to >> Yes. to 829 Bernett. Um which is as he

[49:10] mentioned right behind our public works. It's at 9inth Street and Bernett. And

[49:13] the hours the um materials we're collecting will be the same. The hours

[49:17] will be Monday through Friday, 7:00 a.m. to 4:00 and Saturday 7:00 a.m. to noon.

[49:21] And of course, we'll work with Pam to get that message out, signage, all of

[49:24] those things. And that will become effective, excuse me, Monday, um,

[49:28] September [clears throat] 20 or Yeah, September 28th.

[49:31] » And the capacity to take those is going to be about the same as what it is now.

[49:35] » Absolutely. Yes. Um, in fact, if you look here at the

[49:39] the slide, um, over on if you're coming off of Bernett Street over to the right

[49:43] hand side in the corner there, we will ask everyone to go across the scale so

[49:48] we can identify and make sure and basically ask the question, what do you

[49:51] have? Because we don't want to have a high degree of contamination. U, that's

[49:55] one of the things that's really bad [cough] on the recycling [clears throat]

[49:57] side. Then they will cross the scale and then go toward the back line fence line

[50:02] there the the gr the forested area there and turn right again and go back to this

[50:09] um recycling facility where we will have containers that are available

[50:12] [clears throat] there. Uh the intent and the plan is to have what's called

[50:15] A-frames. These are closed topped sliding containers. If someone source

[50:21] separates them and says, "I'm going to just put my paper in this one, my

[50:24] cardboard in this one, and my rigids in this one," they'll have that option. Um,

[50:30] but then [clears throat] you don't have to separate by any means. You can put it

[50:32] in there. It's called single stream. You just throw it all in together and we

[50:36] will transport it and run it through the transfer station and then to the

[50:39] recycling facilities. And we we can also provide as part of

[50:43] reporting, you know, the tonnages. I think uh in the RFP roughly 1,600 tons

[50:49] is what was re what was reported for the recycling side. Um we can provide you

[50:54] reporting to show increase decrease status quo but obviously we want to see

[50:58] that increase. You know, I don't want to go down deep hole here, but but I know

[51:03] that in our previous discussions, we'd identified, you know, the fact that

[51:07] people from out from surrounding counties bring their recycling to us

[51:13] because they don't have availability and we don't charge them for that and so

[51:18] we're paying for that. So, I think that's a future opportunity for us to

[51:23] take a look at making sure. I don't know if you do that in other locations to try

[51:29] to verify lo um residency. I mean, I'm sure that's complicated. Um

[51:36] the reality is doing the right thing is often difficult as I mentioned earlier.

[51:40] Um that said, if provided that we can manage the volume inbound and that it

[51:48] does not disrupt any of the waste and collections, I don't see a problem

[51:54] because I think the the delta between what recycling volume is coming in

[51:59] versus what the trash volume that we would need to manage. The delta is very

[52:03] the difference there is very large. So, I I think we have plenty of capacity to

[52:08] manage a significant increase on the recycling side. And yes, I mean, there's

[52:12] a processing fee, you know, for the [clears throat] curbside volume, but

[52:17] we're not charging the residents uh or the administration for what a resident

[52:23] brings in in their own pickup truck or in their own or in their in their own

[52:28] vehicle. >> So, that's that's a discussion for a

[52:30] future day. Sure. So, absolutely. Agreed.

[52:33] » All right. That was my questions.

[52:38] I just comment that that's a very handy recycling location. So

[52:46] » we feel so as well. >> Okay. Thank you very much for being

[52:50] here. Thank you, Michelle. I'd ask the city clerk to call roll, please.

[52:54] » Commissioner Henderson. >> Hi.

[52:56] » Commissioner Smith. >> I.

[52:57] » Commissioner Thomas. >> Hi.

[52:58] » Commissioner Wilson. >> Hi.

[53:00] » Mayor Bray. I [snorts]

[53:05] » we go to the next one. >> A proposed motion of the board of

[53:09] commissioners to adopt a municipal order entitled a municipal order declaring

[53:12] certain city-owned real property located on Salem Avenue and Hampton Avenue as

[53:16] surplus property. Authorizing the sale of said property to Salem

[53:20] [clears throat] Avenue LLC, authorizing the mayor to execute a development

[53:23] agreement and authorizing the mayor to execute special warranty deeds and other

[53:26] documents necessary to complete the conveyance. So move second.

[53:31] » Good evening everyone. We have a development agreement um with Salem

[53:36] Avenue LLC for you to look at tonight. And Mr. Ed Cooper, who is the developer,

[53:42] is here. And there were 10 parcels located along that block on Salem Avenue

[53:48] that were for sale um by private owner. And the city had about six lots.

[53:55] Six, we go six and seven. and there were two 20ft lots that really couldn't be

[53:58] built on. So, um he we're going to essentially combine those and do a

[54:03] waiver of subdivision so he gets a good 40ft lot. So, it will lessen the number

[54:07] of lot by one. But, um he made a proposal to build 15 single family

[54:13] residential homes throughout that whole block. And so, this is the development

[54:18] agreement that follows suit with that. [snorts] and we're going to reimburse 5%

[54:23] or 10,000 on each home, whichever [clears throat] is the least amount is

[54:28] is what he's agreed to. And none of the homes shall exceed $250,000

[54:33] in sale price. And he's just starting to build them one right after another. And

[54:38] it runs through August 1st of 2029. But he's here to answer any questions.

[54:44] Um, we're pretty excited to have a developer come up and take a whole block

[54:48] and and do single family residential and do them at the rate he's doing them in

[54:53] the quality product that he's doing. >> Well, we'd like to meet him for sure.

[54:56] » Bring him up.

[54:59] » I had contrary to popular belief, I have not been in a fight. I had an allergic

[55:03] reaction, but when I saw him tonight for the first time, he looked at me and I

[55:06] know he was thinking, "Hell, who you been duking it out with?" [laughter]

[55:10] » But here he is. >> Thank you, sir, and welcome. Um, so tell

[55:14] us a little bit about yourself. >> Uh, I grew up in Paduka. Uh, graduated

[55:19] in 1978 from Heath High School. Uh, left in uh, shortly after that 79 to go to

[55:26] college. Was gone for a little over 40 years. Was in college [clears throat]

[55:30] the whole time. [laughter] My wife uh, also is Paduka native. We

[55:35] went to high school together. And, um, she came back and bought a house.

[55:40] actually bought Bruce's house um in 2023,

[55:46] I guess. And uh I followed not long after. I travel a good bit. Um and I had

[55:52] some uh uh I had a a hole in my heart. I had a atrial uh hole and uh that I've

[56:01] had since birth was repaired in on the third try in um January of last year.

[56:08] And as I recovered from that, I'm like, you know, I feel better than I have for

[56:12] a long time. Need something to do. Technically, I'm retired for the third

[56:16] time. Uh, and [clears throat] so I was looking at uh buying some houses to rent

[56:21] as midterm rentals. Uh, actually was looking at one on Salem Avenue that was

[56:25] for sale. Came out. Jeff Garner, who is my agent, I'm sure. I know Jeff

[56:30] » um was with me and I saw these lots that had just gone on the market the day

[56:34] before and I said, "Well, I'm going to I'm going to do a 180 here on you,

[56:37] Jeff." And uh not a builder. I've never built anything. My background is in the

[56:42] mortgage business. Uh I've done a couple of thousand construction loans, but had

[56:46] never driven the nails. I'm still not driving the nails. Uh bought the lots,

[56:51] started working with Carol and and her folks who've been great. Uh they've

[56:55] given me an immense amount of information because again, I don't know

[56:57] what I'm doing. uh and have been very helpful. Uh I5 uh did a design with

[57:02] them. They've been very helpful. Jimmy Langston, who I'm sure most of you know,

[57:07] uh worked with him years ago at Paduka Drug Company. Uh so I've gotten a lot of

[57:11] good input from folks. And uh my goal is to build entry level homes over there so

[57:17] that people preferably who uh are firsttime buyers uh have not been in the

[57:23] market before we can get into the market. We broke ground on March 31st on

[57:28] the first one and uh we would have finished it a little bit earlier, but

[57:33] there was a couple m material sniffs, but we finished it about uh two Fridays

[57:38] ago. I guess some folks uh looked at it on Sunday, made an offer on Monday, it

[57:42] sold its closing on the 22nd. It appraised for 2 $10,000. Uh I listed and

[57:48] sold it sold it for $199. Um, and they are first-time buyers that uh live out

[57:54] of town now and uh but work in Paduka and are going to be moving to Paduka to

[57:59] uh >> Congratulations.

[58:01] » Thank you. >> Congratulations.

[58:02] » So excited to work with the city. Excited to hopefully provide some

[58:05] opportunities for people to get into the housing market and uh and u do something

[58:10] good for the place that I grew up and love.

[58:13] » Thank you. >> We wish you the best of luck. Welcome

[58:16] welcome home and uh let us know >> home again. [laughter]

[58:21] Yeah, I've been there, done that myself. So,

[58:23] » thank you very much. >> All right. Thank you for being here.

[58:26] [clears throat] >> All right. I'd ask I' I'd please call

[58:30] roll. >> Commissioner Henderson.

[58:31] » Hi. >> Commissioner Smith.

[58:33] » I. >> Commissioner Thomas.

[58:34] » Hi. >> Commissioner Wilson.

[58:35] » Hi. >> Mayor Bray.

[58:36] » I. >> All right. We have three ordinances to

[58:40] introduce tonight. Um, >> and I'll ask the city clerk to read the

[58:46] first one. A proposed motion of the board of commissioners to introduce an

[58:49] ordinance entitled an ordinance authorizing the mayor to execute a

[58:52] memorandum of understanding and residential infield development

[58:55] agreement with Chapman Property Development LLC for the Melody Lane

[58:58] development. This ordinance is summarized as follows. The city and

[59:01] Chapman Property Development LLC desire to enter into a memorandum of

[59:05] understanding providing for the construction and acceptance of eligible

[59:08] public improvements and the reimbursement of certain eligible costs

[59:11] through a residential infill development agreement. Reimbursement shall be

[59:14] limited to eligible co costs actually incurred for the construction of public

[59:19] improvements to be acquired and owned by the city not to exceed the amount of

[59:23] city adalerum real property taxes collected from the development during

[59:27] the applicable 5-year eligibility period.

[59:30] » I move >> second.

[59:33] » Evening mayor, commissioners, city manager, city clerk. Um, as it said

[59:38] there, this is an infill agreement uh for the um with Chapman Development

[59:43] Properties for the apartments on Melody Lane and to reimburse for the

[59:48] construction of uh the road to city standards.

[59:53] » Yeah. Where is Melody Lane? >> Nolan Lane off or Nolan Road off of um

[59:59] » it's kind of behind the McDonald's on Lono Road.

[1:00:01] » Road, correct? Okay. >> Yes.

[1:00:03] » Nolan Drive there. That's comes off Melody Lane. And how many apartments? Uh

[1:00:08] » uh eight unit eight buildings uh four units a piece.

[1:00:11] » Okay. 32 appointments. Okay.

[1:00:16] » Yeah. That's and that's the development where the previous developer passed away

[1:00:20] suddenly. Is it Are we thinking about the I was thinking about the same one

[1:00:24] » adjacent to that part of it. >> Okay.

[1:00:30] Okay. And uh Jim Chapman is a developer. He's also sits on our planning and

[1:00:35] zoning uh board and uh he's developed some uh you know he bought the Ritz

[1:00:41] apartments Ritz and developed those apartments and he's got some other

[1:00:45] developments around town. So it's good to see you know one of our uh better

[1:00:51] known developers um jumping in to you know helping us

[1:00:55] increase housing. So questions anybody.

[1:01:01] » Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:01:07] » Ask the city clerk to read the next ordinance introduction. A proposed

[1:01:12] motion that the board of commissioners introduce an [clears throat] ordinance

[1:01:14] entitled an ordinance fixing the levies and rates of taxation on all property in

[1:01:18] the city of Baduca, Kentucky, subject to taxation for municipal purposes for the

[1:01:22] period from July 1, 2026 through June 30th, 2027 with the purposes of said

[1:01:26] taxes here and under defined purpose and rate per $100. General fund of the city

[1:01:32] real property at.253 $253 personal property except inventory at

[1:01:38] $.34 motor vehicles and watercraft at $.39

[1:01:44] Paduca Junior College real estate at 014 personal property except inventory at

[1:01:51] 014 motor vehicles and watercraft at 031

[1:01:56] property taxes property taxes levied herein shall be due and payable in the

[1:02:00] following manner in the case of tax bills which reflect an amount due of

[1:02:04] less than $2,000. The payment shall be due on November 1,

[1:02:08] 2026, and shall be payable without penalty and interest until November

[1:02:12] 30th, 2026. In the case of all other tax bills, payment shall be in accordance

[1:02:16] with the following provisions. The first half payment shall be due on November

[1:02:20] 1st, 2026, and shall be payable without penalty and interest until November

[1:02:24] 30th, 2026. The second half payment shall be due on February 1, 2027, and

[1:02:29] shall be payable without penalty and interest until March 1st, 2027. Some

[1:02:34] moved. >> Second.

[1:02:36] [cough] >> Good evening, [clears throat] mayor,

[1:02:37] city commissioners, city managers, city clerk. As Lindsay said, tonight I'm here

[1:02:42] to talk to you about uh the proposed property tax rates for fiscal 27. This

[1:02:47] year, we [clears throat] are proposing a decrease for both real estate and

[1:02:50] personal property rates. [music]

[1:02:55] For real estate, we are recommending 0.253, 253, which is 25.3 cents per $100

[1:03:02] of valuation and is a decrease from last year's rate of 27.1 cents per $100. This

[1:03:09] is the lowest real estate rate since 2013 when the rate was an even 25.

[1:03:17] For personal property, we are recommending 34, which is a decrease

[1:03:21] from last year's rate of.356. As most of our citizens are primarily

[1:03:26] interested in the real estate rate, that is where I'd like to focus the remainder

[1:03:29] of my presentation.

[1:03:34] The city's property tax rate options are calculated by a statriven formula that

[1:03:38] compares the city's current total assessments to those of the prior year.

[1:03:43] The assessment date for the current year is 1 one of 2026.

[1:03:47] This year we're proposing to take the compensating rate which is the rate that

[1:03:51] will generate approximately the same amount of revenue as in the prior year

[1:03:55] because the rate asset uh rate calculation is driven by total

[1:03:59] assessments the compensating rate can go up or down. So this year based on uh the

[1:04:05] increase in assessed value that we had the compensating rate it's lower than

[1:04:10] last year's rate by almost 2 cents per $100.

[1:04:18] Total real property assessments increased for the city by $26 million.

[1:04:23] Of this about 172 million was from reassessments and the remaining 34

[1:04:28] million was from new property and higher property sales. About 9700 uh city

[1:04:34] properties, that is about 67% of city properties were reassessed resulting in

[1:04:39] 4,260 changes in assessment. And all of that information was we got that from

[1:04:44] Bill Dunn over PBA. This means that approximately 70% of city property

[1:04:50] owners will see a decrease for their real estate bills.

[1:04:55] And here's an example of what that change might look like. Assuming that

[1:04:59] you did not uh receive an assessment up, you you've not been reassessed over the

[1:05:05] past year and your home value is 200,000. Uh last year the city portion

[1:05:09] of your property tax would have been $542 and this year it'll be $56 for a

[1:05:15] decrease of $36.

[1:05:20] One last thing I'd like to add is that the fiscal 27 budget was prepared with

[1:05:24] the expectation of taking the compensating rate. So this decision is

[1:05:27] in line with assumptions that were made during the budget process.

[1:05:31] There any questions?

[1:05:35] » No questions. Okay.

[1:05:37] » Well, I'll just make a comment. You of course we get a lot of calls and

[1:05:43] comments about people concerned about their assessment on their house and

[1:05:48] that's really not anything that we do. We don't control that.

[1:05:51] » No, >> that's uh something that's done by

[1:05:54] another by uh >> all that's done

[1:05:57] » officer. So, yes, >> but we still get the calls. So, yes.

[1:06:01] » Um >> but I just it's always good to point

[1:06:03] that back out people watching. So, >> yes. how that works. We receive a file

[1:06:07] from uh the property valuation office and load that file and apply the rates

[1:06:12] that we pass and and that generates the bills.

[1:06:17] » Other thing that the thing I'd [clears throat] like to focus on is that

[1:06:21] 70% of the city taxpayers will have a decrease

[1:06:24] » Yeah. >> in real estate taxes.

[1:06:26] » Yeah. We uh Stephanie actually Stephanie's here tonight. Stephanie

[1:06:29] reached out to Bill and he provided us lots of lots of data regarding the

[1:06:33] assessments this year. It was very helpful because I was curious to see,

[1:06:36] you know, how what percentage of citizens would actually see this

[1:06:39] decrease. So, >> Ben, that needs to be your headline.

[1:06:43] [laughter]

[1:06:46] » Thank you, Audrey. >> And the rate and the rate is as low as

[1:06:48] it's been since 2013. Now that that you know John Perkins we have we have the

[1:06:52] tax rate going back to 1905 probably but uh no I look I look to see when it was

[1:06:57] and it was u 2013 when it was last that >> not many tax uh t this time of the year

[1:07:03] not many of these meetings are really that happy.

[1:07:06] » Well I was going to make a joke when I came up here that usually I bear bad

[1:07:09] news and I was kind of excited about this one. So

[1:07:12] » yeah glad to report this. >> Thank you very much Audrey.

[1:07:16] » Yeah that that looks like a good headline. kidding. [laughter]

[1:07:19] » You want to see it tomorrow?

[1:07:23] » Okay. I'll ask the city clerk to read the last ordinance introduction.

[1:07:29] » A proposed motion of the board of commissioners to introduce an ordinance

[1:07:31] entitled an ordinance amending the code of ordinances of the city of Paduka,

[1:07:35] Kentucky to create the department of community development. This ordinance is

[1:07:38] summarized as follows. This ordinance amends chapters 2, 18, 34, 42, 46, 54,

[1:07:44] 82, 102, 106, and 126 of the Paduka code of ordinances to create the department

[1:07:49] of community development and to update the code to reflect the city's

[1:07:52] reorganization of certain development related functions. This ordinance also

[1:07:56] clarifies the respective roles of the building division, fire prevention

[1:07:59] division, and other city departments involved in the development review,

[1:08:02] permitting, inspection, code enforcement, rental occupancy, fire

[1:08:05] prevention, and related enforcement matters. The planning commission held a

[1:08:09] public hearing on September 3rd, 2026 and reported a favorable recommendation

[1:08:12] to the city commission regarding the proposed amendments to chapter 126

[1:08:16] zoning. Upon adoption, the ordinance shall be published in summary and shall

[1:08:20] include the full text of each section that imposes taxes or fees in accordance

[1:08:23] with KRS83A. 060 subsection 9.

[1:08:27] » So move. >> Second.

[1:08:32] » Well, Lindsay did the heavy lifting on this one to be honest. There's about 170

[1:08:36] pages of code changes that um were required to get this done and she's been

[1:08:41] through those with a fine tooth comb, sent them over to the attorney's office

[1:08:44] and then uh we've all met with the attorney to to walk through those. Um

[1:08:49] but this is in in essence creating the department of community development.

[1:08:54] » Okay. >> No questions from me. Great.

[1:08:59] » It's what we had to do. >> Okay. Thank you very much for being

[1:09:02] here, Carol. Thank you. Okay. Any comments from the city

[1:09:08] manager? >> Uh mayor, commission, and for the

[1:09:10] public's uh knowledge referenced this a little bit earlier in the meeting. Uh we

[1:09:15] will not have our regularly scheduled second meeting in September. Uh due to

[1:09:19] conflicts, we will uh have our next meeting uh as a special called meeting

[1:09:24] at this time on October the 2nd. That Friday, it'll be a Friday afternoon.

[1:09:28] » Friday afternoon. We all have it on our calendars.

[1:09:30] » Yep. >> Okay. comments from any commissioners

[1:09:36] » down this way. >> You may know the calendar better than I

[1:09:38] do, but I know [laughter] Thursday at six o'clock we have the new sports park

[1:09:41] opening. >> The next week on Friday at 4:00

[1:09:45] Riverfront, everybody can chime in here. And then Albert Jones Park the last week

[1:09:50] and that's I'm not sure what time.

[1:09:56] » Well, my calendar is messing up. >> Oh, Dewan, come on. technology.

[1:10:04] » What's that week? >> We got a lot We got a lot of things

[1:10:06] going on. We got a lot of think >> we've been working on a lot of projects.

[1:10:09] We got a lot of ribbon cutings and um I was at the Cobb Park, you know, just

[1:10:15] this last week, >> one o'clock on the 29th.

[1:10:18] » I was at the Cobb Park uh ribbon cutting this last week. And you know, that

[1:10:23] playground equipment, I was really impressed with the quality of the

[1:10:28] equipment. It's right there in the middle of the southside. Um, actually

[1:10:33] there was a couple there that were pregnant, expecting their first child.

[1:10:38] So, it was um it was good to be there and good to see the investment that's

[1:10:44] been made. >> 1 p.m.

[1:10:47] » Mhm. >> Comments down here. We good?

[1:10:52] » Okay. We will have an executive session tonight. We do not plan to take any

[1:10:58] action afterwards and I would ask the city the city clerk

[1:11:02] to please read a proposed motion of the board of

[1:11:06] commissioners to go into close session for discussion of matters pertaining to

[1:11:10] the following topics. Future sale or acquisition of a specific parcel of real

[1:11:14] estate as permitted by KRS61.810 subsection 1B. Proposed or pending

[1:11:19] litigation is permitted by KRS61.810 subsection 1C. A specific proposal by a

[1:11:25] business entity where public discussion of the subject matter [clears throat]

[1:11:27] would jeopardize the location, retention, expansion, or upgrading of a

[1:11:31] business entity is permitted by KRS61.810

[1:11:34] subsection 1G and conduct of a performance review of the city manager

[1:11:38] as permitted by KRS 83A150 subsection 4D.

[1:11:44] » So move second. >> Call roll.

[1:11:47] » Commissioner Henderson. >> I.

[1:11:49] » Commissioner Smith. >> I.

[1:11:50] » Commissioner Thomas. >> Hi.

[1:11:51] » Commissioner Wilson. >> Hi.

[1:11:52] » Mayor Bray. I

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Paducah City Commission Meeting - September 8, 2026

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