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[Captioner present]
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>> Here we go.
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I will call this meeting to order.
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Please call the roll.
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>>
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[Roll call]
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>> Please rise for the invocation by Doctor Steve
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Fellows.
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>> Heavenly father, we're grateful to be here today.
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I'm thankful for those that are willing to serve in each
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of the council members and the mayor
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and we pray that you bless them and you give them
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wisdom pure I pray that you will also
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give insight and wisdom to just everybody involved on the city
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side as well as those that are here
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to express their thoughts about things that are happening.
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We look forward to hearing some of the good things that
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are happening in our community as we continue to grow.
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We're grateful for that.
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We know they're blessings from you.
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We pray that you give wisdom throughout the proceedings
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today.
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We ask in Christ's name.
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Amen.
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>> Please join Council Member Coburn for the pledge.
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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States
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of America and to the Republic for which it stands,
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one nation under God, indivisible,
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with liberty and justice for all.
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>> Get these a little closer so people can hear me.
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We now move on to community announcements on Monday
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September 7th.
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It is Labor Day.
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The city offices are closed.
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Our next council meeting is Thursday September 10th at 5
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p.m.
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That's our evening meeting.
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Following council meeting is Thursday September 24th.
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That's a morning meeting at 9 a.m.
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On Saturday September 26th, there's a race for bays five K,
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ten K and Fun Run at Conservation Park.
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And Saturday September 26th, there's a fall festival which
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should be a good time at Aaron Bisset Park.
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That is it for can you meeting announcements.
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We now move on to the approval of the meeting minutes.
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Motion to approve.
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We have a motion to approve and a second.
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Please call roll.
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[Roll call] We now move on to the approval of the agenda
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and additions or deletions.
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Mr. Whitman?
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>> No.
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>> No additions or deletions.
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I noticed in the crowd we had a number of folks
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from Laguna Beach here that I wanted to hear about that.
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And we have that last in the agenda.
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Do you mind if we move that up to first?
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Motion to approve as amended.
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We have a motion to approve and a second.
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Please call the roll.
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[Roll call] We now move on to presentations.
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I guess we can't change it now.
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We have an update on the Bay Economic Development Alliance
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by President Becca Hardin.
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>> Thank you Mr. Mayor and members of Council.
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Thank you for having us today.
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My name is Becca Hardin.
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I'm with the Bay County Economic Development Alliance.
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We try to come before you, hopefully a couple of times
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a year to give you an update on the projects that we have been
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working in the county and how it has
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an impact on you and in this community.
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That's what I'd like to do today.
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Give you an update on some of the projects that we've recently
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announced and where they are as far as development
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and implementation.
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First one that we announced this year in 2026
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is Voluntary Electric.
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This is a Canadian marine boat manufacturing company
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that is located on a site that we
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found that has access to deepwater
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near Robinson Bayou at the end of Frankfort Avenue.
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You see that we put this slide up there for Constable Register.
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That's his hotel Indigo, and Harrison's.
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We had Paul vote in town and the mayor
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was able to take a ride on it, and gave
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a lot of the leadership on their boat.
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This is a very innovative company.
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The boat is and actually electric motor boat
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with a carbon fiber hull.
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They plan to create 300 jobs in Bay County.
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Average wage of $75,000 a year.
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We're investing more than $40 million in our community.
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The owner and CEO of the company has already
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moved here with his family and bought a house in Bay County.
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He's got his four children in our school system now
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and the president of the company has already
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bought a house as well.
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You see the boat.
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This was a boat that the company manufactures
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for the Canadian Coast Guard.
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They're working with the US Coast Guard on a similar boat.
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They also have a contract for these boats with the Navy Seals
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in San Diego California because it's an electric motor.
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You can't hear the motor, you can't smell the motor.
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You can't detect the boat from an aerial infrared light.
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So they are growing in the defense industry.
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That's why they have to expand in the United States.
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Thankfully, they choose Bay County to expand here.
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We're super excited about having Voltari in our community.
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This is the biggest project we've ever
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announced with the Bay County Economic Development
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Alliance and the community leadership
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in Bay County and their airport authority.
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This is IAG Aaroe group.
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There's a company that's headquartered in Miami Florida
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with operations in Rome Italy.
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They are a jet engine maintenance company.
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They work on big jet engines for GE and Pratt and Whitney,
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Raytheon, Rolls-Royce, Airbus and Boeing.
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They work with the big boys in the rendering.
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You'll see that they plan to build 120,000 square foot
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maintenance facility at our airport,
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will eventually have access to our 10,000 foot runway.
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The key thing about this project is
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that they'll build a jet engine test cell,
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and that asset is going to be worth about $75 million.
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If you get a company that builds a jet engine test
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cell in your community, they're not going anywhere.
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They'll build the second test cell and then a two wide body
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hangar.
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This project will create 500 new jobs in Bay County,
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average wage of $65,000 a year, and a $107 million capital
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investment.
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We worked with Gulf Coast, and their board,
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and we were able to solidify $25 million grant to help support
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the recruitment of this company and we're using that grant money
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to help build the maintenance facility that you see here
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in this picture.
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The company also bought existing manufacturing facility
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in the city of Lynn Haven.
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They plan to have 150 of the 500 employees in this facility.
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Already got 50 employees working here.
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This company is going to be a company
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that we want in our community because they are already
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very philanthropic.
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You see the big jet engine, this is a GE jet engine on the right.
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This is a jet engine that they have already donated
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to Haney Technical College.
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In front of a student that is in the FAA and--
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>> He looks thrilled to be there.
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>> He's about to graduate.
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He's did a good job.
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This is the first engine and there's
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the second engine coming.
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Not only did they donate the engines to the college,
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but they donated an employee for the training the trainer,
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so they can train all of our instructors
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and then all of the tooling to work on these engines
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at the value of this donation is more than $5 million.
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They are already contributing back to our community.
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This project is a project we worked with the county,
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and for those of you who are familiar with where
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the old County incinerator used to be in highway 231
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in the original industrial park, that's what that building is
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going to look like once global impact product is finished
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with the retrofit.
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Global Impact Products is already
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using our port to import glass from our sister city in Merida.
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And they will eventually create 150 new jobs
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and invest more than $50 million in this project.
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Another aviation company that we were successful in approving
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is from Connecticut, Oxford Technologies.
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They went into an existing building.
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They'll create 60 jobs and a capital investment
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of $8 million.
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You see this equipment is very specialized
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because they manufacture the leading edge of the Black Hawk
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helicopter for Sikorsky.
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Sikorsky has already been in our community.
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We're talking to them about some opportunities as well.
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And then we recruited Amazon as a last mile distribution center.
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They went into an existing facility Off of highway 231,
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and they've hired about 100 people
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in retrofit this building.
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This was a $9 million capital investment project.
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With these five companies that we announced over the past two
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years, Voltari, IAG, Oxford global, impact products
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in Amazon.
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Those five projects alone will create more than a thousand jobs
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with a capital investment of $175 million
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over the next 3 to 5 year period.
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But we wanted to take that a step further and we
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have partnered with our friends at Florida Power and Light
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who did a more extensive economic impact
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study for our county in the communities in the county.
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You can take those five new projects
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and you can look over the next 7 to 10 years.
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Almost 3000 new jobs will be generated from these project
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announcements with $140 million in annual revenue,
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and 305 million total value added in the economy
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of our community.
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We're looking forward to this growth.
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We'll see some major activities happening in our airport, which
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obviously impacts Panama City Beach and the people who
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live here.
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As you go up 79, you see construction projects spreading
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up every day, and we're excited about the growth
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and we'll have a positive impact on Panama City Beach.
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We are out there traveling.
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We are a small lean, mean machine, but around the world
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these are some shows that we're targeting that we've already
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been to this year.
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Maintenance repair and overhaul, Americas in Orlando, Ben and I
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and my colleague, he's here with me
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and we're invited by state commerce
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to go on a recruitment mission to Canada,
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which was very successful.
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And we just returned from London,
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where we were at the international show
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where we met with more than 20 companies in three days.
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And got three good substantial leads from that trip.
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Saturday, I've been asked by the Secretary of Commerce join him
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and his team on a trade mission and recruitment
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mission to Taiwan.
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So I'll be taking the 30 hour flight to Taiwan,
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and representing our communities there.
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And we'll be going to a big boat show in Tampa in October
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as well as a major overhaul show in Europe and Amsterdam,
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then we'll be going on a recruitment mission
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to our sister city.
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And we're working for you and the county.
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We're excited about these announcements
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over the past year and a half.
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Now we're ready for implementation
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and for the recruitment of the suppliers
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of these main companies.
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Thank you so much for your support.
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We appreciate your partnership.
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Together we're seeing great things happen in this area.
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We want to continue to make great things happen.
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I'll be glad to take any questions.
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>> So five companies across aviation, Maritime,
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manufacturing and distribution.
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Do you have a core focus?
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That's an impressive array of >> That's a great question.
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We do have target markets that align with the state of Florida.
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Aviation, marine and manufacturing
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are two key priorities for target markets
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because we have an international logistics and distribution
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but it's one of our key target markets.
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And advanced manufacturing, so we're
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seeing successes in all these major sectors.
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>> And how long do these deals take to come to fruition?
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>> We've got one that we've been working at the airport that Cole
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has been very involved because he's an airport attorney
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as well.
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And we announced it in 2023 that we're still
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working to try to get it under construction.
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Some can last upwards of 4 to 5 years
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just to get going and under construction.
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Voltari was the exception.
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It took us six months because we found the perfect site for them
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that already had existing buildings on it.
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It can range from 6 to 8 months to 3 to 4 years.
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I tell people that economic development is a marathon not
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a sprint.
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You've gotta have patience.
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We've got a great team that's working
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to make these projects happen.
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>> Any further questions from the Council?
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>> You guys have a great relationship with Haney
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Technical and the colleges that we have here.
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What does that look like when we're bringing these people in
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and you're substantial relationship
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with these local institutions and the pipeline of bringing
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families up and being able to work here and stay
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in our community and not having to leave if you
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don't work in tourism anymore?
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>> Great question.
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I moved here from Georgia.
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I've been in economic development for 25 years.
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It used to be that we would sit at the table with the president
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of a company, and their first question
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was how much money are you going to give me?
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It's not the case today.
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Their first question is, how are you going
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to meet my workforce needs?
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And if you haven't been to Haney lately,
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I would advise you to go to meet with Angela Reese
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and take a tour.
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I would take any president of any company
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in the world to visit any technical.
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Their marine programs, aviation programs, welding programs
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are second to none.
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And when we bring companies here,
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that's one of the first stops we make.
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Any Gulf coast state College, Florida state University,
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the Bay district school system.
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If you cannot provide an answer to how we make the workforce
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needs of the project, we're not going to make it without
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a strong educational partnership.
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>> Very good presentation.
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Thank you for being here.
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>> Thank you.
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>> We now move to employee years of service awards.
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Council member.
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>> If I can have Jeremy Cross and Mark Schaefer to please come
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up and join me.
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Good morning.
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How are you this morning?
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Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to be here.
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I'm sure Mark made you come.
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Jeremy has been with us for five years.
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He is a dependable and dedicated member
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of our wastewater operations team.
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I am told that his technical knowledge
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and his proactive approach and his commitment to safety
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and compliance has really contributed
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to the reliability of the operation of our facility.
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Jeremy, I'd like to thank you very much for your five
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years of service to the community of Panama City Beach.
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Mark, would you like to...
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[Applause] Next, I'd like to ask Officer Sweden and the chief
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to come up and join me.
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Good morning.
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How are you this morning?
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Is this your lovely wife?
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Fiance.
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Officer Sweden, I understand that you're
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assigned to the uniform patrol and you
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serve as a field training officer, which
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helps our new officers as they join our force.
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You're also an active member of our 287 G program,
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and you have received additional training
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to be able to assist with certain immigration enforcement
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and federal supervision.
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We thank you for all of the extra training
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you've gone to for your dedication and your commitment
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to our city for ten years.
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Thank you very much.
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[Applause] Do you want to say anything?
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>> Just that officer Sweden is a very valuable member
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of our team.
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We're proud of all the accomplishments.
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Ten years in this job is very difficult.
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And we look forward to the next 10 to 20 years, Sweetie.
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>> Thank you.
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The next would like to call up Lee Gilmore and Cheryl Joiner
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from our parks.
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I see Sam is coming up with her.
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She's taking a photo.
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Good morning, Lee.
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How are you this morning?
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Quite an accomplishment for you today.
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We are recognizing Lee for ten years of service.
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>> 20.
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>> Sorry.
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I was thinking about the last one that was ten years.
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For 20 years he has been working in Parks and Rec.
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He started part time when he was 17 years old
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helping out over there with the athletics and with maintenance.
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And now he's the athletic supervisor,
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managing the youth and the adult sports.
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Congratulations and thank you so much
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for your ten years of service.
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>> 20.
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>> 20 years of service.
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[Applause]
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>> Lee, Everyone knows how old you are now.
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>> Lee has one of the hardest jobs,
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if you know anything about youth sports.
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I hope you understand that.
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He has over 2000 participants in youth and adult sports.
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If you do some math, he has about 8000 people a year
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when you do parents and grandparents that
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are not happy with the refs call us that he has to deal with.
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We appreciate everything you do, Lee.
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[Applause]
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>> Stay up here with me.
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Because this lady is hitting another milestone.
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I think she started when she was 15.
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To have worked 20 years for Parks and Rec.
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And I want to thank you so much for all
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that you've done for our Parks Department.
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I think you started as the head of the Parks Department
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about the time I was elected.
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I have been able to work with you for the past four years.
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It's been such a joy.
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It's been a joy to see all the that
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have come to all of our parks, not just Frank Brown.
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Thank you so much for your 20 years of dedication
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to the City of Panama City Beach.
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We appreciate you.
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[Applause]
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>> We now move on to public comment on the consent agenda
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and non agenda business.
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If you do have a comment on something on the regular agenda,
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please wait till that time.
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This public comment period is for the consent agenda
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and non-agenda business.
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Please come up state your name, address myself
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or the council as a whole.
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Please keep your comments related to the city business.
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You have three minutes.
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>> Once again, my name is Captain Gary Wayne Beck.
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I live at 2601 Beach Street.
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I'd like to address the good people of Bay County
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that I just addressed a few seconds ago.
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My obligation to hold up the Constitution and Bill of rights,
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I put my hand on the Bible and Honolulu.
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Since then I've witnessed strong armed extortion
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against the weakest of our people.
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Our elderly.
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And I have found myself being targeted
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because I've had all of this criminal activity carried out
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in conjunction and under the grace of the Bay County
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government.
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I've had some bad things happen to children.
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And I currently am in possession of the record
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of the individual that come over to my house
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and told me that he was--
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>> Keep this relevant to Panama City Beach.
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>> I remember when you and Ethan both said that the molestation
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of a child happened in a county that don't matter on Panama City
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Beach.
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How proud of you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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But during the meantime, we're talking about the Constitution
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and Bill of rights.
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I think strong armed extortion on Panama City Beach
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is important.
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I've had gallons and gallons of tears from the elderly
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that you rip in the properties from.
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You remember Miss Cindy Wright?
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And there's a bunch more since her.
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Am I lying?
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No. $42,000 for one day's labor.
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That's a lot of money for an elderly lady.
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It 16000 how she got thrown in.
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Everybody knows the story how she got thrown in a room
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by three men and didn't -- go ahead and tell me that's right.
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And then we have Ethan over there.
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I told him what happened to that child.
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I cried on his shoulder.
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And what did he say?
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Same thing you said.
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As they kicked me out of this building to tell me
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that I can't talk about it.
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It happened in the county.
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It happened in the city.
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That's exactly what--
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>> Please keep these relevant to Panama City Beach.
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Not your issues with the Bay County government.
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>> So the Constitution and Bill of rights don't matter?
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And the fact that our law enforcement officer right there
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weren't recognize the capital felony that any American citizen
[26:12]
does will go to jail for.
[26:14]
Such as forgery coma strong arm extortion.
[26:20]
>> Sir, please keep your comments relevant to Panama City
[26:24]
Beach.
[26:25]
>> Everybody can see because I've been 16 years
[26:27]
into my obligation to uphold the Constitution and Bill of rights.
[26:29]
No matter how about how much crap you've put out about me.
[26:33]
No matter how many lies you put out about me.
[26:35]
You can't hide from the truth.
[26:37]
The truth and the fact of what you've
[26:38]
been doing to the old people in this town and the perversion
[26:42]
that you proud yourselves in inside this government.
[26:45]
Preying upon the children.
[26:46]
I can link the fellow and let me get politically correct.
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>> Thank you, Mr. Beck.
[27:04]
>> You're a disgrace.
[27:07]
>> Public comment on the consent agenda or non agenda business.
[27:14]
Seeing none.
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We now move on to the consent agenda.
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>> RESOLUTION NO.
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26-155, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA,
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AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES AT SET UNIT PRICES
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IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.00 FOR FENCING SUPPLIES,
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INSTALLATION, REPAIRS UNDER THE CITY’S EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH
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MR. FENCE OF INC., FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.
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RESOLUTION NO.
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26-156, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA,
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APPROVING REIMBURSEMENT TO THE BAY COUNTY BOARD
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OF COMMISSIONERS RELATED TO MCELVEY ROAD REPAIRS
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IN THE AMOUNT OF $33,451.50.
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REVISION OF THE MASTER AUDIT LIST TO REMOVE OBSOLETE ITEMS.
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>> Can I get a motion to approve?
[28:19]
We have a motion and a second to approve the consent
[28:23]
agenda items.
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Please call the roll.
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[Roll call] We now move on to our regular agenda.
[28:29]
We have a modified regular agenda.
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If you're following along at home regular agenda item number
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seven, private sewer connection program from Laguna Beach
[28:40]
expansion area.
[28:43]
It's Mark going to speak on this?
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>> Mayor, I'll take the first crack at it.
[28:52]
>> What we'll do for this item is just give us a brief
[28:54]
overview.
[28:55]
We'll call for public comment.
[28:57]
So you guys can ask some questions or make your comments,
[29:00]
and then we'll have Mr. Davis or Mr. Schaefer
[29:04]
help us walk through it.
[29:12]
>> To give you the backdrop here.
[29:13]
For several years the city has been
[29:16]
working to expand the sewer system into Laguna
[29:19]
Beach in a three phase project that those three phases have
[29:25]
been talked about for as long as I've been around.
[29:29]
In 2023, we were able to get a $3 million
[29:36]
Appropriation from Florida legislature thanks
[29:38]
to Representative Griffith, Senator Trumbull.
[29:41]
And so that's when we began the first phase.
[29:44]
And what we would call phase C, so in May of 2026
[29:49]
you approved the $6 million construction contract
[29:51]
to actually expand that sewer connections
[29:53]
across that first phase of Laguna Beach.
[29:58]
And I think it's several hundred different connections that
[30:01]
will become available.
[30:02]
But the grant doesn't fund and what the city doesn't fund
[30:05]
is the pipelines across the neighborhood.
[30:10]
We spent a decent amount of time in thinking
[30:12]
of ways in which we can try to make it feasible
[30:15]
those private connections to happen.
[30:17]
The memo before you detail some options there.
[30:21]
In talking with utilities department and City Manager,
[30:26]
the option that we think is probably the most feasible
[30:29]
for the private citizen for the city
[30:31]
is to have the contractor go ahead
[30:34]
and install those connections on a voluntary basis
[30:37]
if the citizen wants it.
[30:38]
Not to force any connections, but to allow for the contractor
[30:42]
to take advantage of the pricing that we got from the contractor
[30:46]
to give that benefit to the residents
[30:48]
and have them elect to have those connections made.
[30:53]
And then in your packet, you have some option
[30:56]
as to how we could essentially finance that connection
[30:59]
with the residents in different ways
[31:01]
that we could collect upon that.
[31:04]
And I can answer any questions or defer
[31:06]
to staff or anyone else.
[31:11]
>> In summary, we're doing sewer line down there.
[31:15]
There's a lot of old septic tanks down there.
[31:16]
We're going to fund the grants in the city,
[31:20]
or the utilities department is going
[31:22]
to fund the main connection.
[31:26]
Private citizens may want to go from there septics, which
[31:29]
may be having issues.
[31:30]
Or you just want to go into sewer.
[31:32]
That's going to be privately funded.
[31:33]
But here we're discussing options to finance that.
[31:36]
That would allow the citizens to take advantage of the pricing.
[31:43]
>> When we bid out the construction,
[31:45]
we also got pricing for these private connections.
[31:47]
It's already incorporated into their contract.
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>> I will now call for public comment.
[31:53]
If you have any questions, feel free to come up and ask.
[31:56]
It will be all addressed after the end of the public comment.
[32:01]
Just come up and state your name and you'll have three minutes.
[32:05]
>> My name is Tim Ford.
[32:09]
My dad bought a lot on Laguna Beach in 1958.
[32:13]
I was born in 1960.
[32:16]
I've been here off and on since 1960.
[32:20]
I graduated from Bay High School at the time.
[32:26]
I've been here a while.
[32:27]
What we are looking for is just as much information
[32:29]
as we can get.
[32:33]
One, if you've noticed, in the last two years,
[32:41]
Laguna beach has come up from the health department
[32:43]
with problems with fecal matter in the Gulf.
[32:46]
I've been here since 1958.
[32:47]
I've never seen that.
[32:51]
Another background to that.
[32:56]
If you've been to Panama City Beach, you know the carousel.
[32:59]
If you go to the carousel, look at the signs sitting there now.
[33:02]
It says if you park here, you have
[33:05]
to do business at the carousel.
[33:07]
That's never happened.
[33:09]
But I'm getting to is we're getting a lot more people.
[33:14]
But we need to look at this the Airbnb.
[33:17]
Nothing against the.
[33:18]
There's a lot of Airbnbs coming up.
[33:20]
That's economic.
[33:21]
But we're looking for is folks like me.
[33:26]
We've been here for a long time.
[33:28]
We are looking at the cost of going to the septic system.
[33:34]
Going off the septic system, want
[33:37]
to help save our beach to where we
[33:39]
don't have the documentation coming from the health
[33:41]
department to where we can go swim in the Gulf.
[33:43]
That is a big issue.
[33:46]
This project is going to help that issue.
[33:49]
Looking at what's coming down for a lot of us that
[33:53]
have been here it's the cost of connecting to the system.
[33:58]
We are for the system because it's going to help everybody.
[34:03]
Our question is, the initial cost.
[34:08]
There's a lot of places that have been
[34:10]
in families for a long time.
[34:12]
One of my suggestions is, if we could
[34:16]
get with the city to come to Laguna Beach Association
[34:18]
meeting.
[34:19]
It's not an HOA.
[34:23]
It's an association that goes back.
[34:25]
If you don't know the history of Laguna Beach,
[34:27]
it goes back to when the properties of Laguna Beach
[34:30]
were originally sold.
[34:31]
The gentleman that sold the properties back in the early 50s
[34:37]
put on deeds that our beach would not be built on.
[34:43]
Large process went to the state.
[34:50]
And the association is just there to make sure
[34:54]
that the agreement is upheld.
[34:55]
A lot of people in that association that have been
[34:57]
on the beach for a long time.
[35:00]
If we could get a connection to where the city could come,
[35:03]
because from what I see, if we initially
[35:09]
connect as a contractors there, it
[35:12]
will be less expensive for us to do that.
[35:17]
>> Tim, if you could start wrapping this up.
[35:19]
>> That benefits us, but it also benefits you for us to get
[35:25]
connected as soon as possible.
[35:26]
I think that would be the correct statement.
[35:29]
As soon as we could get what the cost to initially do it
[35:32]
so we can help get the information out and possibly
[35:35]
work with you to come to the Association with--
[35:42]
you can't put everything in stone,
[35:44]
but it's close as we could get to it.
[35:46]
So we could get more of the older people
[35:49]
that have been here for a long time that see what
[35:55]
this is going to do for us.
[35:58]
Not only to help us at our pocketbook.
[36:00]
>> We appreciate you, Tim.
[36:03]
You're substantially over time.
[36:05]
We're more than happy to have the conversation >> Just
[36:11]
to let you know the alarm is messed up.
[36:12]
They're gonna have to fix it after the meeting.
[36:13]
I'll try to keep in track.
[36:14]
>> Everyone gets the same amount of time.
[36:18]
That's just a rule.
[36:19]
Don't want to be mean or anything.
[36:20]
Everyone gets the same amount.
[36:22]
Any further public comment on this item?
[36:26]
>> Yes, sir.
[36:27]
Thank you very much for letting me ask questions.
[36:29]
One of the first questions I have.
[36:35]
>> What's your name?
[36:36]
>> Linda Gastner.
[36:38]
I live in Laguna Beach.
[36:40]
I've got five questions here.
[36:42]
If a homeowner or property owner does not pay the impact fee--
[36:52]
if they choose to pay an impact fee now,
[36:57]
can they pay the terms that you guys
[37:01]
have given us for the 5, 10, or 15 years financing?
[37:09]
The next one is, the impact fee, is it
[37:12]
different than what we were given a couple of months
[37:14]
ago from Mark?
[37:15]
I didn't see it in the paperwork.
[37:20]
Also, vacant lots that are not developed, will they
[37:24]
be charged the $31.06 per month if they're not developed?
[37:28]
They are vacant.
[37:30]
So of course they're not going to hook up impact fees.
[37:36]
What is the difference between a three and a four inch pipe?
[37:42]
What's the use of it.
[37:43]
I don't understand that.
[37:44]
I don't know if it's the number of bathrooms, whatever.
[37:51]
And the last thing is the date update for the contract.
[37:57]
It was supposed to start in May.
[37:58]
Now it's several months behind.
[38:00]
I'm wondering if that's been revised.
[38:02]
What can we expect to start construction?
[38:08]
That's all I've got.
[38:11]
Thank you.
[38:13]
>> Thank you.
[38:13]
Further public comment on this item?
[38:21]
All right.
[38:23]
I think several of those questions
[38:25]
are mixed between Mr. Davis and Mr. Schaefer.
[38:28]
Mr. Schaefer, can you come up and help
[38:31]
us understand this program and address some of the questions
[38:36]
on financing, vacant lot charge, three versus four inch pipe.
[38:43]
Contract starts.
[38:44]
And just a minor correction.
[38:46]
These aren't impact fees.
[38:49]
This would just be a fee for construction.
[38:53]
>> First off, the limits of the project says Mr.
[38:57]
Davis indicated, is the first of three phases.
[38:59]
The limits are from the Luna all the way to East Lake Shore.
[39:04]
North to Back Beach Road, south to Front Beach Road.
[39:08]
If it's outside that area, that's not
[39:10]
in the phase of the project.
[39:13]
I've done three presentations to the Laguna Beach Homeowners
[39:17]
Association.
[39:18]
But I'll be glad to cover any questions anybody has.
[39:26]
Regarding the schedule for the project,
[39:28]
the notice to proceed was issued the 10th of June.
[39:31]
The contractors have been a little slow getting mobilized,
[39:34]
but he has started.
[39:35]
Barring any rain events or delays in construction,
[39:38]
it should be done in March of next year.
[39:45]
>> Be completed?
[39:51]
>> Yes.
[39:51]
There's about 441 lots in that service area,
[39:55]
and we used that quantity in the bid form.
[39:58]
What we're trying to do is leverage the number of homes
[40:03]
in that area to get better pricing in our contract
[40:07]
and allow that to be available to the homeowners
[40:10]
if they wish to use that.
[40:12]
They're not required to use it.
[40:13]
And I think we got some really good quotes here in terms
[40:17]
of septic tank abandonment and it's less than $2,500 which is
[40:22]
much better than they likely could do on their own.
[40:25]
Secondary benefits to the homeowners
[40:27]
if they go in this program.
[40:29]
Septic tanks can fail on you without a moment's notice.
[40:31]
And suddenly you have a big time constraint
[40:33]
to get something done.
[40:37]
This allows them the opportunity to deal with it now
[40:41]
at an advantageous price.
[40:44]
In the city is your in between the contractor and the homeowner
[40:48]
in terms of issues and construction.
[40:50]
We are basically serving as a representative.
[40:55]
>> Mark, between the start time now and March of next year,
[40:59]
if I was a homeowner in their.
[41:01]
I'd like to know if there's a certain time they have to agree,
[41:04]
does it just have to be before the completion date?
[41:08]
>> The contractor owes me that date.
[41:10]
I don't know what it is yet.
[41:11]
Typically they'll put the mains in the street
[41:13]
and I don't know if they're going
[41:15]
to do it in bulk faction of the entire area
[41:17]
or if they're going to do it street by street.
[41:23]
>> Can you speak to the difference between a three inch
[41:25]
and a four inch pipe for the homeowners?
[41:29]
>> Some homes have four inch main service exits coming out
[41:33]
of the rear of the house.
[41:35]
Some of them have four.
[41:37]
Typically it's a four inch line.
[41:39]
We just got the unit pricing for both options.
[41:41]
If the homeowner wanted to stay with the three inch or he
[41:43]
could upsize to the four inch.
[41:46]
>> And then the question about sewer availability charge
[41:51]
for vacant lots.
[41:53]
>> The sewer availability charts,
[41:56]
the guiding principle there is to encourage people that are
[41:59]
on septic tanks to get off the septic tanks.
[42:01]
I don't know how it's going to apply to an empty lot.
[42:04]
I would think it targets people that are on holdouts
[42:07]
I want to stay on septic tanks.
[42:09]
It's basically saying we've expended all this money,
[42:13]
and the state of expended money to extend utility service
[42:16]
in your area.
[42:16]
And that has a cost.
[42:19]
It's certainly not going to recapture that cost,
[42:22]
but it's something to incentivize them to get off
[42:25]
their septic tanks and connect.
[42:27]
A state requirement is that it's once it's available,
[42:30]
they have to connect within a year.
[42:35]
>> Say that again.
[42:39]
>> There's a state requirement that once sewer is available,
[42:42]
and they've been given notice about it,
[42:43]
they have up to a year to connect.
[42:50]
>> Mayor, one question.
[42:52]
Miss Christina did ask about impact fees and impact
[42:54]
fees that would be associated with these connections.
[42:57]
This financing option includes financing those impact fees
[43:00]
as well.
[43:01]
Just to clarify.
[43:02]
It's a whole cart thing.
[43:08]
>> The impact fee I gave in the presentations to Laguna Beach
[43:10]
was an example impact fee.
[43:13]
It's based on a standard three bedroom two bath home.
[43:17]
And our impact fees are a function of fixture units.
[43:21]
If you have a three bath home , that number is going to be
[43:28]
higher.
[43:28]
I use a standard three bedroom two bath home.
[43:30]
And it was roughly $4,700.
[43:34]
For the sewer impact fee only.
[43:38]
That does not include the connection cost
[43:39]
which is the cost of running the pipe from the home to the sewer.
[43:44]
There front property line at that point of connection.
[43:53]
>> We're looking at an average cost per home around $7,000
[43:53]
for the total hookup and impact fees.
[43:55]
For hookup and connection.
[44:02]
>> If it's a nine bedroom seven bathroom,
[44:04]
it's gonna be significantly more because of the fixture count.
[44:08]
>> I agree with the gentleman that got up and spoke.
[44:12]
It's definitely advantageous for the property owners to --
[44:20]
let's say one of these folks have spent $20,000 in the last
[44:23]
couple of years on a new septic tank.
[44:27]
And I know in the past we have encouraged people
[44:31]
and helped finance to get them to tie on.
[44:35]
And it's what we're talking about today.
[44:37]
You said something about the state law.
[44:39]
We still have some folks that still haven't tied on.
[44:44]
We're not forcing them to tie on.
[44:46]
We are encouraging them to tie on.
[44:49]
Which hopefully most of you guys will.
[44:52]
If they don't, they just have to pay the availability fee
[44:57]
each month?
[44:58]
Is that what the penalty will be?
[45:04]
>> Yes.
[45:04]
The city's practice right now is only charging availability fee.
[45:07]
We don't take any other enforcement action for failure
[45:09]
to hook up.
[45:10]
>> When everything's gravity down there.
[45:15]
No homeowner will have to put--
[45:20]
>> We have a grinder pump that we can connect.
[45:22]
There's a unit price for them to connect that to the service.
[45:26]
>> This is a little different than what we've done
[45:29]
in the past.
[45:29]
Are we still doing the same option
[45:30]
that we've had in the past where we give them--
[45:34]
I guess it's up to us how we want to do it, but in the past
[45:36]
we've encouraged them to tie on within 90 days
[45:38]
and give them a break.
[45:40]
But this way, we're trying to do a package deal
[45:43]
where we let the contractor.
[45:44]
We've never done that before.
[45:46]
This is something new.
[45:47]
>> That's correct.
[45:50]
What time with the construction.
[45:52]
So they would have the time to hook up to the constructor.
[45:55]
That'll be the only option to be able to tie
[45:58]
into the system at this cost.
[46:01]
>> That'll be a better deal for you guys.
[46:04]
They just have to figure out how we're
[46:06]
going to get reimbursed to the >> The state is ratcheting up
[46:14]
the mandatory connection.
[46:15]
The legislature is doing that right now.
[46:20]
There's property issues and ownership issues.
[46:22]
It seems like every legislative session, they keep stepping up.
[46:27]
Connect and so on and so forth there's
[46:30]
benefits to the homeowner because if he
[46:32]
gets rid of the septic tank, frees up
[46:34]
a lot of the real estate for other needs
[46:36]
if they're willing to put in a swimming pool
[46:38]
or add a room to their home or so forth.
[46:40]
They restrict it before because they
[46:42]
had to accommodate this drain field and the septic tank.
[46:45]
So there is added benefit in terms of the property.
[46:56]
>> Thank you for your presentation.
[46:57]
You've answered my question.
[46:58]
>> One of the questions the gentleman asked is the cost
[47:01]
for the hookup here that's going to be on a case by case basis
[47:04]
based on the fixtures and the size of the home.
[47:07]
I guess the residents would have to come forward and say,
[47:11]
I want to become part of this program, whatever
[47:13]
we decide we're gonna do.
[47:15]
And then at that time, they would
[47:17]
be able to get an accurate assessment of what
[47:21]
the cost would be.
[47:22]
We could give you what a basic one would be,
[47:25]
a specific to each home, it's probably going to change.
[47:29]
>> If the sewer currently exists the home,
[47:33]
now the piping has to wrap all the way around the home to get
[47:36]
to the main connection at the street.
[47:38]
Where if it's plumbed out of the front of the house,
[47:41]
it's much less expensive to do that.
[47:43]
A fixed cost of septic tank abandonment.
[47:45]
We have that cost in there.
[47:49]
There's some other costs like site work.
[47:51]
The quantity of pipe varies home to home.
[47:55]
>> I just wanted to address that because there is not one set
[48:00]
price for everybody.
[48:02]
It's going to be on a case by >> We can give them
[48:06]
an estimate of what their impact fees would be if they give us
[48:09]
a fixture count.
[48:10]
We can get a better one in terms of what the picture will be.
[48:16]
>> So the way to look at this is if a resident wants to hook up,
[48:20]
at that point they can come forward and say I want to see
[48:23]
if I want to be part of this and then the assessment would go
[48:25]
forward and they would get a price?
[48:28]
>> They can approach us now , we can get an estimate.
[48:36]
>> This would be an individual contract between the city
[48:38]
and the homeowner for each individual hookup.
[48:40]
It would be a case by case bespoke thing
[48:42]
that we do for each lot.
[48:45]
It won't be all in one shot.
[48:48]
There will be some mechanics to each individual one that
[48:51]
will be by contract.
[48:52]
>> So if they want to write a check or pay cash,
[48:57]
they can do it?
[48:57]
Or we can finance it for them?
[48:59]
Is that where we're at?
[49:02]
>> There's an option available.
[49:03]
We need your direction on that.
[49:07]
>> The septic tanks, the old septic tanks,
[49:11]
don't have to remove those, and that'll be included
[49:13]
in the price.
[49:14]
>> The unit cost for that is 2403.57.
[49:28]
>> Anything else for Mr. Schaefer?
[49:35]
>> Thank you.
[49:36]
>> So finance has done a bang up job giving us a few options
[49:44]
to work with here.
[49:46]
Can someone come and walk us through these?
[49:50]
>> What we feel like is probably the easiest mechanism to finance
[49:55]
this is having an agreement with each property owner and have
[49:59]
a certain term.
[50:01]
We've looked at five year terms, ten year terms and 15 year
[50:04]
terms.
[50:05]
We've looked at interest rates that
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would be associated with that.
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Finance believes that is 3.75% is what actually currently earns
[50:14]
in the bank.
[50:15]
So we have calculated different options based on those terms
[50:19]
and based on a suggested 3.75 interest rate.
[50:22]
What we would do is assuming you took those terms,
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and if the homeowner wanted to agree to those terms,
[50:29]
we would simply assess that annual cost
[50:32]
on the tax bill the same way that we do your fire assessment
[50:34]
or your stormwater assessment.
[50:36]
>> Help me understand that, because this project is outside
[50:41]
the city limits.
[50:42]
Our utility and service area.
[50:44]
This is outside the city limits.
[50:47]
So they're not currently getting anything through from us,
[50:51]
but we'll work with the property appraiser.
[50:54]
>> The tax collector and the homeowner to have them agree
[50:57]
to do this.
[50:58]
They could just write a check, but that would be a backstop
[51:01]
to make sure since the city is fronting
[51:04]
all the money to make sure that we are able to collect them.
[51:07]
In the past, what happened is the city
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took mortgages on the properties.
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And there was a more complicated collection system.
[51:16]
And it was administratively burdensome
[51:18]
and didn't work out very well.
[51:19]
This is what we think is a simplified version that
[51:21]
allows everybody to kind of get what they need.
[51:28]
>> The options outlined in this memo are cash up,
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installation options, installment options secured
[51:39]
by Leon in the property.
[51:41]
And the third would be the voluntarily
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agree to a Non-ad valorem assessment.
[51:47]
So those are the three options that I
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believe the staff recommendation was the not assessment.
[51:54]
>> And that's attached to the deed of the House.
[51:58]
They sell the house and it just carries over.
[52:00]
>> If they sell their house, the new owner would take care
[52:03]
of those payments because the person who's gone doesn't want
[52:05]
to be paying.
[52:10]
>> If we go with a non or.
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>> Similar to the way the solar panels work.
[52:16]
>> And then amongst those options,
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we have outlined three terms.
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A five year term, ten year term and a 15 year term.
[52:27]
And as you mentioned, the staff is recommending a 3.75% interest
[52:36]
rate, which is what the utility fund is currently
[52:40]
being able to get for that money and for the bank account.
[52:42]
So it's not taken from the entire city's DoorDash
[52:45]
every utility pair in order to subsidize.
[52:49]
That is our break even point there.
[52:53]
And I see that staff has recommended basically
[52:57]
a ten year term at that 3.75% and Non-ad valorem assessment.
[53:04]
I think that's a useful starting point for a discussion.
[53:16]
>> Is there a way to offer all three terms?
[53:18]
Or is it only a way we can choose five, 10 or 15?
[53:21]
>> Probably finance question because they're the ones that
[53:23]
have to track all this and make sure that it all works.
[53:26]
>> When we did the Leon in the early 2000,
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it was very taxing on our finance department
[53:31]
because if they sent the bill, we didn't know if it was gonna--
[53:35]
so we're asking for the non.
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If you recommend that, we could recommend one
[53:40]
where they can write a check to the city
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and we can reimburse-- those would be the two options
[53:46]
I'd recommend.
[53:47]
>> If they desire to overpay their payment or pay a little
[53:51]
bit early, are they able to do that?
[53:54]
>> Yes.
[53:55]
If they wanted to come in for one year
[53:59]
and say I'm gonna pay all the money in advance,
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don't put it in my tax roll, we want to do that.
[54:04]
We want to be flexible with this.
[54:08]
>> But they would go to the Bay County tax collector to do that?
[54:12]
How would that work?
[54:14]
>> The way it would work is if they gave a check to finance,
[54:16]
and said here's my annual payment,
[54:18]
then we would contact the tax collector because we have
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to submit the roll to the tax collector every year.
[54:23]
We would just take them off the roll for that year.
[54:27]
>> Hopefully Deborah's not mad at me.
[54:34]
>> She's nodding her head.
[54:36]
>> I was gonna say if the council,
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depending on what the council says,
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it's really A, and, or one of the others and they could pay
[54:48]
partial upfront and they would assess and finance would adjust
[54:51]
that to the roll.
[54:52]
I was just going to say that you can decide I've got half of this
[54:58]
that I want to pay up front and therefore only half
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the charge is going to go on the roll of the Non-envelope.
[55:06]
>> And to clarify the action, you're asking for direction
[55:12]
to finish creating this program and would this come back
[55:16]
as a resolution or would this be >> The program would come back
[55:21]
fully fleshed out as a resolution and we'll build it
[55:23]
out with all of the details for your direction.
[55:28]
>> Sounds like we've given as many options as we can
[55:32]
to encourage them.
[55:35]
>> To Councilman Register's point,
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could we offer multiple terms or should we decide on one term?
[55:47]
>> I think staff recommendation is one term.
[55:50]
I like that term to be sensitive because you'd have a home that
[55:52]
ends up being a 10,000 a year you're taking $1,000 of these
[55:58]
people's household income for an annual basis for those ten
[56:01]
years.
[56:02]
So maybe we can look at the longest term
[56:05]
to be able to see if they can pay it off early.
[56:08]
And that would be the least impact,
[56:12]
and I think you get the most response
[56:16]
and maybe dragging it out a little further.
[56:18]
>> In the memo, do we have the average cost?
[56:21]
It was 7000?
[56:25]
A model home was about three bed, two bath model home.
[56:39]
It was roughly $7,000.
[56:40]
The annual payment we have in the chart
[56:41]
is in the packet online this is available for everyone.
[56:49]
It's based per $10,000 so if they go above that, 30% above,
[56:57]
they would get that 1,200.
[57:04]
Let's take this in pieces.
[57:08]
One is the options of-- we'll potentially agree
[57:15]
that we'll take cash up front.
[57:17]
And the other two pieces of the options
[57:19]
are installment plan based on security or non ad valorem
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assessment.
[57:24]
Staff recommends Non-adversarial assessment.
[57:34]
so we've got that portion done.
[57:40]
>> Would it be possible to require,
[57:44]
should the property change hands,
[57:48]
this debt would be paid off at that time?
[57:52]
>> We can have an acceleration clause.
[57:55]
Which is exactly that.
[57:56]
If they sell it, then it's all due up.
[58:08]
>> I personally don't want to do that.
[58:10]
That's my personal opinion.
[58:12]
>> It was just a suggestion.
[58:14]
>> I think it's just keeping it with the property.
[58:19]
It would have to be disclosed at the property sale
[58:21]
price the property sale time.
[58:23]
Any prospective buyer would have to do their own diligence.
[58:27]
>> At that point they can roll it in alone.
[58:31]
>> They can pay it off because that would have to be disclosed.
[58:35]
>> It just makes sense to clean it up at that point.
[58:39]
>> That's a good idea.
[58:42]
I just think we're trying to keep this one
[58:43]
simple as my opinion on it.
[58:46]
Thoughts?
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>> 15 years.
[58:52]
>> Let's talk about the interest rate first,
[58:55]
then we can do the term.
[58:58]
The proposed interest rate is 375, which is a very good rate.
[59:03]
I think what home mortgage is now are over 6.
[59:13]
The city is not making any money on this.
[59:14]
This is what keeps the utility fund whole
[59:16]
without having the rest of the subscribers
[59:20]
basically subsidizing this program.
[59:28]
375?
[59:30]
>> There's a fee associated with the tax collector collecting
[59:33]
this?
[59:35]
>> Usually 2%.
[59:36]
>> Is that going to be added in as well?
[59:38]
>> We will need to add that into the total amount of the debt.
[59:42]
>> I just wanted to make that clear.
[59:47]
>> Everyone is good with 3.75?
[59:52]
We got those two and now we're talking term.
[59:57]
We have the five year term, and your term,
[1:00:01]
15 year term proposed and model.
[1:00:04]
We could pick 14.5 years if we wanted to,
[1:00:06]
but let's start with those three options.
[1:00:08]
What are the thoughts of the council?
[1:00:13]
>> I agree with the Vice mayor, I'd give them as many years
[1:00:16]
as possible.
[1:00:17]
15 years, if they want to pay it off earlier, they can.
[1:00:24]
>> I'm good with 15.
[1:00:29]
I think you got a lot more participation at that point
[1:00:33]
as well.
[1:00:39]
>> I'm fine with that.
[1:00:40]
>> Can someone do a motion to wrap this entire thing up?
[1:00:44]
Vice Mayor, you're the one that can do the complicated motions.
[1:00:52]
>> This is more of a direct staff?
[1:00:57]
Motion to direct staff to create a resolution for sewer hookup
[1:01:00]
in North Lagoon project to accommodate the proposed options
[1:01:07]
A and C. C option being including a 3.75 percentage
[1:01:14]
rate and a 15 year term.
[1:01:18]
>> We have a motion and a second and I'm not going to repeat what
[1:01:21]
you just said.
[1:01:29]
Please call roll.
[1:01:32]
[Roll call] I will come back to us as a resolution and obviously
[1:01:41]
staff can be in contact with you folks and I know Mark has said
[1:01:45]
he had been to a few of your meetings
[1:01:47]
and we're happy to continue to talk through this process.
[1:01:50]
It won't be enacted until we do the resolution.
[1:01:56]
This was just discussing what goes into the resolution.
[1:01:58]
The resolution is going to come back to us.
[1:02:00]
>> I would encourage everyone to get out there and spread
[1:02:05]
the word because apparently they've already started.
[1:02:08]
Everyone kind of needs to be ready to pull the trigger,
[1:02:16]
if they want to do it.
[1:02:20]
>> I was originally a regular agenda item number seven,
[1:02:22]
which we moved to the first.
[1:02:24]
We're now going on our regularly scheduled agenda.
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Agenda item number one.
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Large conditional use application
[1:02:32]
located at 201 Hutchinson Boulevard.
[1:02:39]
This is a public hearing Quasi-judicial use.
[1:02:43]
There's extra mechanics whenever we get one of these quasi uses.
[1:02:49]
I have to read a bunch of stuff.
[1:02:50]
This is a hearing to consider the approval of a conditional
[1:02:53]
use application from LSE Shipwreck Island LLC section
[1:02:58]
5.06.01 of the city's development code.
[1:03:02]
This is a quasi judicial hearing governed by the city's Land
[1:03:05]
Development Code.
[1:03:06]
This hearing is based on the recommendation of the Planning
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Board approval, Planning Board member approvals,
[1:03:11]
the members of the Council have provided
[1:03:13]
a copy of that for our review.
[1:03:17]
We will now begin the hearing.
[1:03:23]
We move on to soaring in the witnesses.
[1:03:25]
All persons wishing to speak during this hearing.
[1:03:29]
Please rise to be sworn in.
[1:03:35]
>> Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you're about
[1:03:37]
to give will be the truth the whole truth and nothing
[1:03:39]
but the truth?
[1:03:40]
>> Mr. Leonard, where the notice requirements met for this
[1:03:45]
hearing?
[1:03:51]
>> Yes, sir.
[1:03:52]
>> We now move on to disclosures.
[1:03:52]
At this time, we will ask each member
[1:03:54]
of the council to make their earnings disclosure.
[1:03:56]
>> Nothing to disclose.
[1:04:01]
>> Nothing to disclose.
[1:04:02]
>> Nothing to disclose.
[1:04:04]
>> Nothing to disclose.
[1:04:06]
>> I also have nothing to disclose.
[1:04:07]
Next is the staff presentation.
[1:04:10]
At this point, we will hear the staff report.
[1:04:14]
Mr. Leonard.
[1:04:16]
>> Thank you, mayor and council.
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This is a large conditional use.
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It's over three acres in size.
[1:04:23]
It's to the applicant is less shipwreck LLC.
[1:04:27]
And they've submitted the large conditional use application
[1:04:31]
for a new water slide at shipwreck Island waterpark,
[1:04:41]
the property zone c h.
[1:04:44]
And it's in the FB02 Zoning District.
[1:04:46]
And because it's a conditional use,
[1:04:48]
it would have to meet 12 general criteria.
[1:04:50]
And the City Council, you have discretion to impose conditions.
[1:04:54]
It determines that there are necessary-- required findings
[1:05:00]
are met, the must be approved.
[1:05:01]
The applicant held his required community meeting on August
[1:05:05]
the 4th prior to the Planning Board meeting,
[1:05:07]
and the Planning Board recommended approval of this
[1:05:09]
request at its meeting of August the 12th of 2026 with
[1:05:12]
the following conditions.
[1:05:13]
There is two of them pier is at a 20 foot setback
[1:05:16]
from Hutchinson Boulevard is met on all portions
[1:05:18]
of the new amusement structure and number two of modification
[1:05:21]
allowing the existing six foot black chain link fencing
[1:05:24]
to remain in lieu of required solid faced fence.
[1:05:31]
>> What was setback?
[1:05:32]
>> 20 feet for the entire structure of the new waterslide.
[1:05:38]
That is it.
[1:05:43]
>> Okay, that is it for the staff presentation.
[1:05:48]
Thank you, Mr. Leonard.
[1:05:50]
At this time we will hear from the applicant.
[1:05:57]
>> Thank you for having me here today.
[1:05:59]
Some new slide tower presentations
[1:06:00]
is a great opportunity for the waterpark itself.
[1:06:02]
It's a $5 million investment in 260.
[1:06:06]
Roughly 20 seasonal jobs added to the park itself.
[1:06:08]
We've worked with the city extensively
[1:06:10]
to make sure that we comply with all necessary municipal and
[1:06:12]
county regulations on this particular slide tower.
[1:06:14]
It's going to be a great new attraction for the community,
[1:06:16]
and we're very excited to construct this.
[1:06:19]
Once we hopefully get approval from the City Council
[1:06:21]
to pursue this, we're getting action immediately.
[1:06:25]
I'm happy to answer any questions
[1:06:26]
that the Council might have on this particular project.
[1:06:29]
>> What is the location?
[1:06:34]
>> It's on the Northeast corner of the waterpark itself.
[1:06:36]
>> Where the children's play area is?
[1:06:45]
>> That's correct.
[1:06:46]
Northwest corner.
[1:06:51]
>> Is it a water slide?
[1:06:55]
>> Yes,
[1:06:57]
>>Height?
[1:06:59]
>> 50 feet.
[1:07:01]
>> Questions from the council?
[1:07:06]
>> Okay.
[1:07:08]
>> Could you state your name for the record?
[1:07:09]
>> Clark Davis.
[1:07:14]
>> That's why I didn't know what to call you.
[1:07:21]
Thank you, Mr. Davis.
[1:07:25]
Mr. Davis, seeing none from the applicant.
[1:07:31]
Thank you, sir.
[1:07:33]
>> I'm just going to be a little informal.
[1:07:36]
At this time we will hear from any affected parties
[1:07:38]
who wish to speak.
[1:07:39]
Please come up and state your name
[1:07:41]
and address for the record of any affected parties.
[1:07:44]
At this time, you want to take any public comment.
[1:07:52]
Seeing none.
[1:07:55]
At this time, we will hear any rebuttal
[1:07:59]
by staff in the affected party or the applicant.
[1:08:02]
Any rebuttal?
[1:08:06]
No rebuttal.
[1:08:09]
Mr. Davis, you have anything to add?
[1:08:16]
>> No.
[1:08:16]
>> At this time, we will close the evidentiary portion
[1:08:19]
of the hearing.
[1:08:20]
And at this time we will hear the closing arguments
[1:08:24]
by the staff.
[1:08:25]
No closing argument.
[1:08:26]
We will move to council discussion.
[1:08:28]
We have a conditional use and the Planning Board
[1:08:31]
put on the 20 foot setback and required and allowed
[1:08:35]
them to keep the existing chain link fence,
[1:08:43]
instead of moving to a bigger fence which was required.
[1:08:45]
>> I think the chain link fence makes it more esthetically
[1:08:50]
appealing to continue it the whole way around.
[1:08:52]
I think the 20 foot setback is good.
[1:08:54]
>> It's a water park.
[1:08:58]
You want to see what's in there.
[1:09:03]
>> Especially at night.
[1:09:04]
It's good for security.
[1:09:08]
>> Mr. Davis, If we approve this with the recommended conditions
[1:09:12]
by the Planning Board, we have to re-add the conditions
[1:09:17]
recommended by the Planning Board?
[1:09:25]
so a motion could be just adopt the Planning Board order?
[1:09:30]
>> Motion to adopt the Planning Board's order of the 20 foot
[1:09:32]
setback and required chain link fencing although we would
[1:09:35]
normally require.
[1:09:38]
>> And to approve?
[1:09:45]
>> Second.
[1:09:46]
>> We have a motion to adopt the Planning Board's order
[1:09:48]
and to approve.
[1:09:49]
Please call roll.
[1:09:55]
[Roll call] Got through that one.
[1:10:03]
We now move on to regular agenda item number two resolution
[1:10:05]
26-133.
[1:10:07]
Mr. Davis.
[1:10:09]
>> Resolution amending the budget for the City of Panama
[1:10:13]
Beach Florida, the fiscal year 2025 2026 appropriating revenues
[1:10:21]
and providing an effective date.
[1:10:24]
>> Is there any public comment?
[1:10:28]
Mr. Davis, Could you help us understand what's going on here?
[1:10:40]
>> Before you, you have the amended budget for fiscal year
[1:10:44]
2026.
[1:10:44]
All through the year, there's been
[1:10:47]
a budget amendments presented to you that you have approved.
[1:10:50]
And also throughout the year, the department heads
[1:10:53]
have also made some budget amendments
[1:10:55]
with the approval from the manager
[1:11:01]
and myself within their authority.
[1:11:05]
The budget amendment that you have before you
[1:11:08]
encompasses all of those amendments for 2026.
[1:11:15]
>> This is the budget we originally approved,
[1:11:17]
and as we enacted them through the resolution throughout
[1:11:20]
the year, and ask the department heads if the request was under
[1:11:32]
Drew spending authority or within drew spending authority,
[1:11:35]
it encompasses those as well.
[1:11:36]
Is that accurate?
[1:11:42]
>> Yes.
[1:11:43]
>> Do you need Miss Gibson up here for this?
[1:11:43]
>> Possibly.
[1:11:45]
I got some calls yesterday from some folks in the community
[1:11:50]
about, and we're short on $41,000 shortfall for railway
[1:12:01]
and transportation.
[1:12:02]
I think we got our wires wires crossed here
[1:12:03]
because I think in the TPO meeting
[1:12:05]
earlier before we did our budget meeting last year,
[1:12:07]
and this is all true and up this year 2026.
[1:12:10]
There was a TPO meeting held and everybody
[1:12:13]
agreed that each municipality of the shortfall, the TDC
[1:12:17]
did not pick up that year.
[1:12:19]
I've worked it out with the TDC to pick up going forward,
[1:12:22]
but we had a $41,000 shortfall that I think we had a meeting.
[1:12:26]
And I'm just looking for clarification from our members
[1:12:29]
so we can have some discussion.
[1:12:30]
Right now we have a problem, and I'd love to address it.
[1:12:33]
We have a pretty large cash Carryforward.
[1:12:36]
And if we did agree as a municipality in that meeting,
[1:12:39]
and I would like to uphold what we said we would do and cover
[1:12:44]
the $41,000.
[1:12:45]
So to --
[1:12:52]
>> To clarify, we passed the budget at this Council.
[1:12:54]
And that had the $41,000 in it.
[1:13:01]
>> 45.
[1:13:02]
It was 86.
[1:13:02]
I think we paid 45--
[1:13:09]
>> We passed 49 775, but then the TPO voted for their budget
[1:13:12]
that didn't include that, and that was a higher contribution
[1:13:15]
from the city.
[1:13:16]
>> I think there was some conversation.
[1:13:18]
There was some wires crossed and something we missed,
[1:13:20]
we got a shortfall and it's an opportunity for us
[1:13:22]
to rectify the shortfall and fix the problem that we got a hand.
[1:13:25]
>> Wouldn't that go in the next item?
[1:13:34]
J3, 26-27.
[1:13:36]
>> This is actually for last year that we were short,
[1:13:38]
but we've got the TDC to pick up that portion.
[1:13:40]
>> So if you want to make an adjustment, it would be on J2,
[1:13:53]
not J3.
[1:13:53]
What's your recommendation or your >> My recommendation would
[1:13:58]
be to cover the $41,000.
[1:13:59]
This is a system our workforce uses to get up and down.
[1:14:01]
>> I agree with you.
[1:14:06]
>> And just for clarification, we were made aware of this early
[1:14:09]
enough to where we have two resolutions depending
[1:14:10]
on your action.
[1:14:11]
Finance staff has already built that in.
[1:14:13]
So we can immediately move in that direction.
[1:14:16]
>> And it's in front of you in your?
[1:14:21]
>> And also right now it's a one off.
[1:14:24]
>> TDC will pick up next year and we won't have this problem
[1:14:26]
going forward.
[1:14:27]
I think it's important that we get our workforce.
[1:14:29]
People that live in our communities
[1:14:33]
and pay tax in our communities, they
[1:14:35]
need to get to and from work.
[1:14:36]
I think we got some wires crossed.
[1:14:42]
No fault of anybody's.
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Just something we can do to fix a problem and rectify moving
[1:14:44]
forward.
[1:14:45]
>> Do we have an MOU with Bayway or TPO for this?
[1:14:52]
I've been on the TPO, and this came in before I was on the TPO.
[1:14:56]
I don't know the background on that.
[1:14:58]
I don't know that Paul would know because Paul didn't come on
[1:15:01]
until two years ago.
[1:15:03]
>> I think they vote on it every year.
[1:15:08]
>> I do not recall having voted on it.
[1:15:11]
>> Mr. Davis, do we have an MOU with the TPO?
[1:15:16]
>> I haven't seen an MOU.
[1:15:17]
My understanding is that the TPO level, the cost
[1:15:20]
share amongst the cities--
[1:15:25]
>> Miss Gibson, feel free to sit down.
[1:15:27]
>> It's based on population.
[1:15:31]
>> They track where people get off and get
[1:15:34]
on, and there's a table that we see every year.
[1:15:36]
Generally it tracks what they believe
[1:15:39]
are proportionate share is compared to other cities.
[1:15:41]
And then they submit a funding request
[1:15:45]
to the cities in that end, approved in your budget process
[1:15:50]
every year.
[1:15:50]
I have never seen an MOU.
[1:15:52]
I can't say it doesn't exist.
[1:15:54]
My understanding is the process originated from the TPO,
[1:15:57]
and it's funded by each city subject
[1:16:02]
to your budget appropriation.
[1:16:17]
>> I can't remember what meeting of the TPO.
[1:16:19]
One of the things that really jumped to cost for us
[1:16:21]
is the Sunday Service.
[1:16:24]
At the time, TDC was paying the Sunday service,
[1:16:27]
and we had a gap.
[1:16:29]
This is that gap from my understanding
[1:16:35]
and my conversations.
[1:16:38]
I want to say that February's meeting was
[1:16:40]
addressed at the TPO.
[1:16:45]
I have to go back and double check.
[1:16:48]
But coming back on the next cycle, the TDC has looked at it
[1:16:51]
and said, I think we're going to be funding this as well.
[1:16:55]
>> If I recall, that's why when we discussed the budget last
[1:17:00]
year, the TDC initially funded Sunday service.
[1:17:04]
The TDC ceased funding Sunday service,
[1:17:11]
and the TPO sent us that bill.
[1:17:12]
They said we don't need Sunday service.
[1:17:15]
And then it appears that the TPO has budgeted in Sunday service,
[1:17:23]
and voted on and fully approved the process.
[1:17:29]
There's a gap between what we said we were going to fund,
[1:17:32]
and what the TPO including our members have voted.
[1:17:36]
I think we still have a motion?
[1:17:42]
We have a motion and a second on the table.
[1:17:45]
Is there any further discussion on this item?
[1:17:47]
>> I think it's great that the TDC is picking up going
[1:17:53]
in the next year.
[1:17:54]
And it's a major check out day for us.
[1:17:56]
We continue to grow.
[1:17:59]
People coming on Friday and leaving on Sunday.
[1:18:01]
So they get to the workforce on these places is important.
[1:18:04]
It hopefully keeps a lot more e-bikes off the road
[1:18:07]
and doing dangerous things and cutting across parking
[1:18:10]
lots in scooters and things.
[1:18:12]
I believe it's beneficial to get these things to and from work
[1:18:17]
safely.
[1:18:17]
And I believe TDC has a portion in paying that.
[1:18:20]
And they're going to step up and do that.
[1:18:22]
We've got great partners over there.
[1:18:31]
>> We have asked this of everyone that we give money to.
[1:18:33]
Mr. Hobbs coming and talking to us about the ridership.
[1:18:39]
>> Fantastic point.
[1:18:43]
>> I agree that we'll talk about that in the budget for next
[1:18:46]
year.
[1:18:46]
Absolutely.
[1:18:46]
Motion in a second.
[1:18:48]
Further discussion?
[1:18:50]
And the motion was to the 41000.
[1:18:58]
Just to be clear, the amended budget subsequently
[1:19:06]
amended to adopt the 41000.
[1:19:14]
Whatever the shortfall is.
[1:19:18]
Motion in a second.
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Please call the roll.
[1:19:24]
[Roll call] We now move on to regular agenda item number
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three, resolution number 26-134.
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Mr. Davis.
[1:19:39]
>> Resolution establishing the budget for the City of Panama
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City Beach Florida for the fiscal year 2026 and 2027,
[1:19:47]
appropriating revenues and providing an effective date.
[1:19:50]
Any public comment on this item?
[1:20:01]
>> Good morning.
[1:20:02]
My name is Jessica Graham.
[1:20:02]
I'm the executive director of the Saint Andrews, Saint Joseph
[1:20:04]
based estuary program.
[1:20:05]
I try to come in front of you every year
[1:20:07]
and give you an update of everything.
[1:20:08]
I just wanted to quickly update you on some of our projects
[1:20:11]
we have.
[1:20:12]
One of those is litter traps which
[1:20:15]
is cast basins that we install in stormwater drains that
[1:20:19]
capture organic and trash.
[1:20:21]
We have six of them installed near Aaron Bassett Park.
[1:20:24]
And in a year we have collected 260 pounds of debris
[1:20:28]
and kept that from draining into the adjacent lakes there.
[1:20:33]
Which eventually would turn into muck.
[1:20:36]
We have also captured one trap alone right
[1:20:40]
by that pond as captured 80 pounds.
[1:20:42]
We sometimes have to shovel the leaf litter out of the trap
[1:20:46]
because it's so thick.
[1:20:47]
We also capture a lot of trash from different events that
[1:20:50]
are there we are seeing a measurable impact
[1:20:52]
and I really want to give a shout out
[1:20:54]
to the Public Works staff.
[1:20:56]
They are fantastic.
[1:20:57]
They meet us out there and they do
[1:20:59]
all of the hard lifting and the traffic control.
[1:21:02]
We try to keep it as easy as possible on them.
[1:21:05]
They do a fantastic job and really appreciate their support.
[1:21:09]
We also have a couple of other projects
[1:21:12]
like a microbial source tracking project that will actually
[1:21:15]
look at what the source of the fecal coliform in the waterways.
[1:21:19]
You saw a lot of swim advisories last year.
[1:21:24]
Surprisingly this was swim advisories
[1:21:27]
during dry conditions.
[1:21:29]
Not wet conditions.
[1:21:31]
Understanding the source of that is important.
[1:21:33]
And we'll be doing that at all of those healthy beaches
[1:21:36]
locations in and around the city.
[1:21:37]
And another aspect that we're doing
[1:21:40]
is harmful algal bloom monitoring.
[1:21:43]
That is monitoring for red tide events.
[1:21:46]
We had a very large red tide event last year
[1:21:49]
that lasted into January.
[1:21:50]
We saw dolphin mortality from that.
[1:21:54]
Scallops are closed in Gulf County because of that.
[1:21:56]
The more we can get on top of it,
[1:22:02]
we can then work with Mote Marine Laboratories
[1:22:04]
to deploy technologies to actually kill the red tide
[1:22:05]
before it gets inshore ideally.
[1:22:06]
It's still in testing phase.
[1:22:09]
We have trained citizens on how to collect these samples.
[1:22:13]
And then we're analyzing the samples
[1:22:15]
to try to get on it earlier than later.
[1:22:18]
And just to put everything together for the estuary program
[1:22:23]
and what it contributes to economically,
[1:22:26]
we did an economic assessment in 2023.
[1:22:30]
The estuary just a half mile buffer
[1:22:33]
of both the beaches and the estuary
[1:22:35]
indirectly and directly contribute $9.7 billion
[1:22:38]
in total economic output.
[1:22:40]
It provides substantial economic returns.
[1:22:43]
Both safeguard natural resources as well as the tourism
[1:22:47]
and our community's way of life.
[1:22:49]
Thank you very much and I'm happy to answer any questions.
[1:22:57]
>> I'm going let public comment go through and then I have some
[1:22:59]
questions to ask.
[1:23:00]
Further public comment on resolution 26-134?
[1:23:11]
Seeing none.
[1:23:16]
Ms. Graham, I had a few questions.
[1:23:29]
>> Yes, sir.
[1:23:30]
>> Ms. Graham, the city does very few contributions
[1:23:34]
to organizations, and we ask those who are requesting that
[1:23:37]
funding to submit the request before we have the budget
[1:23:40]
workshop.
[1:23:40]
We did not receive this request in time.
[1:23:42]
You have a member of the Estuary Committee on here
[1:23:45]
that was able to carve some time out.
[1:23:48]
Why weren't we able to receive the request in time?
[1:23:50]
>> I'm still getting used to the timing of the request.
[1:23:55]
We just started producing these requests to the cities last year
[1:23:58]
I was caught off guard when you guys started your budget
[1:24:01]
workshops in time to be able to get that request in.
[1:24:03]
But I'll be remedying that and getting it in sooner.
[1:24:07]
>> What is the amount of the request?
[1:24:12]
>> $20,000.
[1:24:13]
>> What are the other contributions,
[1:24:17]
we had gotten actual budgets on their side.
[1:24:18]
Would you be able to produce that in the future?
[1:24:27]
>> Yeah.
[1:24:28]
>> I notice on your policy board you have 12 voting members.
[1:24:29]
40 members include Bay County Commission, Gulf County
[1:24:31]
Commission, Callaway, Lynnhaven, Mexico beach, Panama City,
[1:24:38]
Panama City beach, Parker port, Saint Joe Springfield and FSU.
[1:24:47]
Panama City, or any of those government entities,
[1:24:53]
do they provide contributions?
[1:24:55]
>> They do.
[1:24:55]
We had contributions from a few last year.
[1:24:58]
This year when we were exploring contributions
[1:25:00]
because of the upcoming November vote on the Texas.
[1:25:03]
The request hasn't gone into Bay County yet.
[1:25:05]
>> Essentially Springfield is contributing members.
[1:25:10]
And then we're considering here as Panama City Beach
[1:25:12]
would be the only two contributing members
[1:25:14]
from the municipality?
[1:25:16]
>> Last year we had Lynn Haven come on Mexico Beach,
[1:25:19]
Springfield, Panama City Beach.
[1:25:30]
>> So Panama City?
[1:25:31]
>> Not yet.
[1:25:31]
>> I noticed you highlighted your member from Panama City
[1:25:37]
on your most recent flier.
[1:25:40]
>> That's a board spotlight.
[1:25:41]
We've done that every month to try to show who's
[1:25:45]
behind the history program.
[1:25:47]
>> Any questions from the Council?
[1:25:53]
>> No questions.
[1:25:54]
I thank you for being here.
[1:26:00]
>> Thank you.
[1:26:07]
>> We had that tied out.
[1:26:08]
We have one resolution or two resolutions for this one?
[1:26:12]
>> We have one resolution.
[1:26:17]
We did include it in your discussion at the workshop.
[1:26:19]
It is included.
[1:26:23]
>> I think the estuary program is a great program
[1:26:28]
and it's a program like the other programs that we
[1:26:33]
contribute to.
[1:26:34]
They help a very broad range of people.
[1:26:38]
It's not like we're giving money to an HOA or something like that
[1:26:43]
that's very specific.
[1:26:45]
They help the entire area including Bay County.
[1:26:51]
For me, shame on them for those who don't help
[1:27:01]
contribute to these programs.
[1:27:03]
But if my neighbor doesn't help somebody,
[1:27:12]
that doesn't mean I'm not going to.
[1:27:15]
Especially if it's a program that assists in such a broad way
[1:27:22]
and affects the area, especially environmentally or with helping
[1:27:26]
the elderly or kids.
[1:27:27]
I'm totally in favor of keeping this 20,000 in there
[1:27:31]
for the estuary program.
[1:27:39]
>> I'd like to hear from Council member Coburn about what her
[1:27:43]
thoughts are.
[1:27:44]
She serves on the Estuary Committee.
[1:27:45]
>> I think they do a lot of good work out there especially
[1:27:48]
monitoring the red tide because that's something that really
[1:27:50]
affects tourism here.
[1:27:51]
I remember when I first moved here
[1:27:52]
we had several years when the red tide was really bad it
[1:27:56]
was miserable for everyone.
[1:27:57]
Anything we can do to protect our waterways
[1:28:01]
and to decrease that and make sure that our waters are
[1:28:05]
safe for swimming.
[1:28:06]
I think it's really important.
[1:28:08]
The litter traps has been astounding.
[1:28:10]
We only have a few around the park over there.
[1:28:15]
We've kept a lot of debris in our waterways by using those.
[1:28:18]
I think they do good work.
[1:28:22]
I would really like to see us support them,
[1:28:25]
and pushing forward for our national designation
[1:28:29]
so that they can qualify for additional grants
[1:28:37]
that we currently can't qualify for.
[1:28:39]
Jessica has done a really good job of getting grants and moving
[1:28:42]
the projects along, but now money is getting much tighter
[1:28:47]
and you need that national designation
[1:28:49]
in order to qualify for some of the larger grants.
[1:28:51]
>> And what is it that we need to do to help with that?
[1:29:00]
>> Doctor Graham would have to speak to that.
[1:29:02]
>> We could follow up on >> Add it to an agenda.
[1:29:09]
>> Sounds good.
[1:29:10]
I think it's a great program.
[1:29:12]
I agree with the vice mayor that it does make sense to do
[1:29:13]
what's right, even if those don't.
[1:29:15]
I have a bit of a concern for cities
[1:29:23]
having voting seats on the policy board
[1:29:24]
without having any contribution.
[1:29:27]
On the TPO, we all do our contributions.
[1:29:31]
Why are there cities for other municipalities
[1:29:32]
and the policy board that are not contributing?
[1:29:35]
That's something I would ask you, Council member,
[1:29:43]
to take to your board and help us understand that.
[1:29:45]
I think we have talked more about the Estuary
[1:29:47]
Committee in the last five minutes
[1:29:49]
than we've ever talked about.
[1:29:51]
Thank you for coming up.
[1:29:59]
>> It looks like it's a great program.
[1:30:00]
Thank you for serving on it.
[1:30:01]
I think the beach should probably
[1:30:02]
benefits the most than any other city in the county.
[1:30:06]
It's important to have beautiful beaches.
[1:30:15]
With that, I'll make a motion that we give Mrs Graham
[1:30:24]
or the estuary program the $20,000.
[1:30:30]
>> It's built in?
[1:30:31]
>> Just a motion to approve resolution 26-134.
[1:30:39]
>> We have a motion to approve and a second.
[1:30:41]
Please call the roll.
[1:30:47]
[Roll call]
[1:30:48]
>> We now move on to regular agenda item number four
[1:30:50]
resolution 126-135.
[1:31:02]
>> RESOLUTION NO.
[1:31:06]
26-135, AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE PANAMA CITY COMMUNITY
[1:31:08]
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER
[1:31:08]
1, 2025, AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30, 2026;
[1:31:08]
ESTABLISHING BUDGET FOR THE PANAMA CITY BEACH COMMUNITY
[1:31:08]
REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING ON OCTOBER 1,
[1:31:11]
2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2027.
[1:31:25]
appropriate the use of funds shown there as stated and may be
[1:31:29]
necessary or deemed necessary to defray all expenses
[1:31:33]
and liabilities relating to the respective --
[1:31:37]
>> Any public comment on this item?
[1:31:42]
Seeing none.
[1:31:46]
Mrs. Gibson, please.
[1:31:53]
>> This resolution is for the amended budget for the CRA fund
[1:32:00]
for 2026, as well as the proposed budget for the CRA fund
[1:32:05]
for 2027.
[1:32:08]
Each year, there's things that happen
[1:32:10]
that we have to adjust things that
[1:32:12]
happen that require adjustments for revenues and expenses.
[1:32:12]
Those amendments are in the 26 budget amendment
[1:32:15]
within the resolution.
[1:32:21]
Also, you have the proposed CRA budget
[1:32:23]
that we have prepared in accordance with Florida Statutes
[1:32:25]
section 163.387, which requires that we follow and use
[1:32:29]
the outlined redevelopment plan.
[1:32:35]
That's it.
[1:32:40]
>> Okay.
[1:32:41]
Thank you, Mrs. Gibson, this is the same process
[1:32:45]
we just went through for the general fund for the CRA.
[1:32:55]
>> Motion to approve.
[1:32:57]
>> We have a motion and a second to approve.
[1:32:59]
Please call the roll.
[1:33:04]
[Roll call] Regular agenda item number five.
[1:33:10]
Resolution 26157.
[1:33:15]
Mr. Davis.
[1:33:24]
>> RESOLUTION NO.
[1:33:26]
26-157, APPROVING A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE
[1:33:27]
FLORIDA, DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE CREATION
[1:33:27]
OF WATERSHED MASTER PLAN; AND AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT
[1:33:30]
REFLECT THE RECEIPT OF THESE FUNDS.
[1:33:41]
>> Any public comment for resolution 26157?
[1:33:45]
Seeing none, Mr. Adaire, is this you?
[1:34:00]
This.
[1:34:02]
>> If you got a recall resolution 2619 in October 23rd
[1:34:07]
of 2025.
[1:34:07]
The city approved $473,000 for the preparation of the City
[1:34:10]
Stormwater Master Plan.
[1:34:11]
We still continue to search for funding for that project
[1:34:13]
and we were able to secure grant funding to help
[1:34:16]
recover some of that cost.
[1:34:18]
That's what's before you today. $300,000 to go towards that
[1:34:21]
project.
[1:34:24]
>> So this is to accept money -- where is the grant from?
[1:34:37]
>> HMGP Grant from FDEM.
[1:34:45]
>> Any questions?
[1:34:47]
Thank you.
[1:34:49]
Motion to approve?
[1:34:56]
Any discussion?
[1:34:58]
I'm sorry, I'm just following the rules.
[1:35:00]
I'm excited to accept this money.
[1:35:01]
Please call the roll.
[1:35:07]
[Roll call] We now move on to regular agenda item number six.
[1:35:09]
Resolution 26158.
[1:35:11]
Mr. Davis.
[1:35:23]
>> RESOLUTION NO.
[1:35:24]
26-158, APPROVING A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH DEPARTMENT
[1:35:24]
OF JUSTICE FOR FIVE BALLISTIC SHIELDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT;
[1:35:24]
AND AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO REFLECT RECEIPT
[1:35:26]
AND APPROPRIATION OF THESE FUNDS.
[1:35:35]
>> Any public comment on this item?
[1:35:37]
Seeing none.
[1:35:41]
Chief Talamentes, help us understand this item.
[1:35:52]
>> Mayor, a while ago now we applied for a grant
[1:36:01]
of the Department of justice for five ballistic shields.
[1:36:03]
These plastic shoes are utilized for tactical operations, patrol
[1:36:05]
operations and just another piece of
[1:36:07]
to keep our guys safe out there on the street.
[1:36:08]
We have our notified a couple of weeks
[1:36:10]
ago that we're approved this would be a no cost to the city.
[1:36:13]
This is completely grant funded and a vital piece of equipment
[1:36:16]
for officer safety.
[1:36:17]
>> Thank you to everyone that works so hard at the police
[1:36:23]
department on procuring these grants.
[1:36:24]
>> We got to protect our officers and our citizens.
[1:36:30]
>> Motion to approve.
[1:36:36]
>> Second.
[1:36:37]
>> We have a motion to approve and a second.
[1:36:37]
Is there any discussion on this item?
[1:36:38]
Seeing none.
[1:36:44]
[Roll call]
[1:36:50]
we now move on to the city Manager report.
[1:36:51]
Mr. Whitman?
[1:36:59]
>> No report.
[1:36:59]
>> We now move on to the city attorney report.
[1:37:01]
>> No report.
[1:37:08]
>> Council comments.
[1:37:10]
>> And one thing that just hit me with the Laguna Beach thing
[1:37:11]
or whatever she's trying to put all together in the consolidated
[1:37:11]
format for these residents to be able to maybe fly or something
[1:37:14]
that the city can put together.
[1:37:16]
I don't know if that's doable.
[1:37:17]
But just something where it makes it simple and easy
[1:37:20]
that we can get it translated because I
[1:37:22]
know we had a lot of robust discussion
[1:37:23]
and we came up with this.
[1:37:24]
And it took a PhD up here to be able to make a motion
[1:37:27]
to approve it.
[1:37:27]
I'd like to see the city be able to put something together.
[1:37:33]
I know your team can do that.
[1:37:36]
>> Aaron and Mark can put something together and they
[1:37:40]
presented at one of their meetings.
[1:37:45]
>> Thank you so much.
[1:37:47]
>> Nothing from me.
[1:37:49]
Everyone is back to school.
[1:37:50]
I hope everyone is getting settled and enjoying it.
[1:37:52]
And also enjoy your Labor Day on the 7th.
[1:37:58]
Our next City Council meeting is Thursday September 10th.
[1:38:01]
5 p.m.
[1:38:01]
Here at City Hall.
[1:38:02]
Have a blessed day.
[1:38:09]
This meeting is adjourned.