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[0:00] We just barely got back from Las Vegas at least I did.
[0:04] So today the Page City Council meeting
[0:07] for May 20th, 2026 and the time is just
[0:10] maybe a minute after 6:00.
[0:13] I've not had a chance to ask anybody for
[0:15] the
[0:17] prayer of the pledge so I'll do the
[0:18] prayer. Is there a volunteer for the
[0:20] pledge?
[0:21] Okay.
[0:26] Father in heaven as we come before thee
[0:28] this time we are so very grateful for
[0:29] the recent uh
[0:32] moisture that we have received and we
[0:34] pray Father that thou would please bless
[0:36] us with more that we'd be able to be
[0:39] comfortable as the summer progresses.
[0:42] Help us Father as we make decisions for
[0:44] the future of this city and its
[0:46] citizens. Help us to make uh
[0:49] good decisions for the future.
[0:52] Bless each and every one of us Father
[0:54] with safety and and on this council and
[0:57] in the city in general.
[1:00] And we say these things
[1:02] humbly in the name of Jesus Christ.
[1:04] Amen.
[1:05] >> Amen.
[1:07] Well
[1:09] would you please rise and join me?
[1:13] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[1:15] United States of America and to the
[1:18] republic for which it stands, one nation
[1:22] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:25] justice for all.
[1:30] » Okay, we'll move on to uh the see the
[1:33] consent agenda, approval of the May 6th,
[1:36] 2026 City Council
[1:39] uh meeting minutes and also confirmation
[1:41] of the monthly financial information.
[1:44] Unless there's any discussion on this
[1:46] item, Council, I'm ready for a motion.
[1:48] >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the
[1:50] consent agenda.
[1:51] >> I'll second.
[1:52] >> Okay, we have a motion been seconded. Uh
[1:54] clerk, call vote. May I may mention uh
[1:57] Council Hewlett was will not be here. He
[1:59] had other commitment that he had to take
[2:01] care of. So, we'll start with
[2:03] Council Council Perosky guard.
[2:05] >> Yes.
[2:06] >> Council Moss.
[2:07] >> Yes.
[2:08] >> Council Rawley.
[2:08] >> Yes.
[2:09] >> Council Smith.
[2:10] >> Yes.
[2:10] >> Thank you. Motion carries.
[2:12] Uh we'll move on to D petitions I-15
[2:16] interchange update. We got anything?
[2:19] Going to skip that one. That's what I
[2:20] was was thought. Okay, chamber business
[2:23] employee or committee service awards.
[2:25] Jim, are you here? I don't see Jim.
[2:29] So, it looks like we'll skip that one.
[2:31] Okay. Boy, we're moving.
[2:34] Okay.
[2:35] public forum. Uh
[2:38] ladies and gentlemen, anybody that would
[2:39] like to come and address the council
[2:42] during the public forum and would
[2:43] encourage you to do so.
[2:45] Please be cognizant of your time. Try to
[2:47] keep it around 3 minutes if if at all
[2:49] possible.
[2:52] Anyone like Yes, sir. Please come on up.
[3:02] » Good evening. Uh I'm David Spencer.
[3:03] >> Push Push Push the button for us there.
[3:05] >> There.
[3:05] you go. The pacing light lit up.
[3:07] There you go. That's good.
[3:09] >> So, I'm David Spencer and I'm running
[3:10] for County Commissioner seat B.
[3:12] Uh which is coming up here this primary
[3:14] election coming up June 23rd. But
[3:16] how I got into politics um
[3:19] in Orem
[3:20] I served on there 12 years. But
[3:23] I I I ran to save the baseball fields.
[3:26] Because the city council of the time
[3:27] wanted to take baseball fields out for
[3:28] parking.
[3:30] So, I had a cause, right? And the
[3:32] baseball fields are still there 12 years
[3:34] later. So,
[3:35] I accomplished something. But um
[3:37] the the main thing is
[3:40] the city council or the government was
[3:41] not being transparent to the citizens of
[3:43] Orem.
[3:44] And I feel that's the same way in the
[3:46] county. I don't think we have
[3:48] transparency in the county.
[3:49] Now, on those on the 12 years on the
[3:51] council,
[3:53] not once did a county commissioner come
[3:55] to Orem
[3:56] and say, "What are your needs? How can
[3:58] we help you?"
[3:59] And that I want to change. I want to
[4:01] make sure I go to every city
[4:03] and sit down with the mayor and the
[4:04] council and the citizens and say, "What
[4:07] are your needs?" because Payson's got
[4:09] different needs than Orem and in
[4:10] Santaquin and and Eagle Mountain. So,
[4:12] um
[4:13] that's my goal.
[4:14] I feel that we are a fractured county,
[4:16] meaning we're all doing the same the
[4:18] different thing. If we can get on the
[4:19] same page, they will have power to go to
[4:22] the state legislature and get the
[4:24] funding we need.
[4:25] I believe that the funding is going to
[4:27] Davis County cuz that's where the
[4:29] legislature leadership is at the state.
[4:32] And we need to stop that. So, I feel
[4:35] very passionate about running for county
[4:36] commissioner. I think,
[4:38] you know, salaries are out of control,
[4:39] taxes are out of control.
[4:41] And when we raise taxes,
[4:43] it hurts the homeowner,
[4:45] but it also hurts the businessman,
[4:47] right?
[4:48] Cuz you don't get a discount on your
[4:50] business. You get a discount on your
[4:53] home, right? On your taxes. So, I think
[4:55] we need to get back to the basics and
[4:58] have representation that'll come to your
[5:00] city and say, "Hey,
[5:02] I want to work with you. How can we help
[5:04] you?" I I remember meeting you. I went
[5:05] to
[5:07] the MAG meeting for Dave Young, Mayor
[5:08] Dave Young, and said that he's not been
[5:11] reelected, but you know, I want to do a
[5:13] What's Happening in Utah County uh
[5:15] Facebook page because it'll tell
[5:17] everybody what's going on in Payson. I
[5:19] mean, your Payson your salmon fry's big,
[5:21] but maybe you have other things that
[5:23] maybe someone in Alpine want to come.
[5:25] And let's keep the money in Utah County.
[5:27] Infrastructure and transportation are
[5:29] key, and I think that's
[5:31] we need to pump the brakes on
[5:33] um
[5:34] building a little bit because our
[5:35] infrastructure and transportation's way
[5:37] behind. Just coming from Orem, it took
[5:39] me 45 minutes
[5:41] from Orem to Payson, which
[5:43] you know, it's 80 miles an hour, right?
[5:44] So, I should have been there faster, but
[5:47] we need to make sure we
[5:49] are cognizant of our citizens and our
[5:50] cities, and I want to represent each
[5:53] city. It's three commissioners,
[5:55] but I want to make sure I do my job and
[5:57] I show up. There's a transparency portal
[5:59] I want to do that shows
[6:01] how
[6:02] the commissioners are voting, are they
[6:04] attending their meetings,
[6:06] and are they traveling foolishly? We
[6:08] should You should have better
[6:09] representation at the county and make
[6:11] sure that you know what the county is
[6:12] doing for the cities. I'm David Spencer,
[6:14] and hopefully I can gain your vote.
[6:15] Thank you.
[6:16] >> What was your name again once more?
[6:17] >> David Spencer.
[6:18] >> Okay, David. Thank you.
[6:19] >> I've got some uh
[6:22] some literature that I'll leave at the
[6:23] recorder.
[6:24] >> Right.
[6:24] >> Appreciate your time, and thanks for
[6:26] your service. And one thing is I want to
[6:27] give a plug for I support the the police
[6:29] and the fire 100% because they keep us
[6:32] safe.
[6:33] Thank you.
[6:33] >> Okay.
[6:34] Thank you.
[6:34] >> Thanks, David.
[6:37] >> Do you need to go up by three?
[6:38] >> Oh, you're fine. You're fine. We're not
[6:40] that much of a stickler.
[6:42] >> I had to negotiate, so
[6:43] >> Okay.
[6:44] Appreciate you coming and being part of
[6:46] our meeting.
[6:47] >> My number's on the card if you need me.
[6:48] >> Okay.
[6:49] >> All right. Nice to meet you.
[6:52] >> Anyone else here in the
[6:54] Come on up, please.
[7:07] » I'm Laurel Noise,
[7:09] and
[7:11] my concern is I keep getting letters. I
[7:14] know all of you do.
[7:16] Uh my mailbox is always full, everybody
[7:18] wanting money.
[7:21] And
[7:22] this I've got three or four.
[7:26] They're calling it a referendum on
[7:28] sanctuary status.
[7:30] They want me to send them money so that
[7:33] they'll work towards not becoming a
[7:35] sanctuary state city.
[7:38] But
[7:40] I'm not sure where that money's going or
[7:42] if that's what they're using it for.
[7:44] >> That's certainly not anything that
[7:46] Payson City has sent out to you.
[7:47] >> Uh right.
[7:50] Uh so, I guess I'm asking, are we going
[7:54] to become a sanctuary city?
[7:55] >> Simple.
[7:57] No.
[7:58] >> Okay.
[7:59] I want to support our senators in that,
[8:01] but I can't give to everybody under the
[8:04] sun.
[8:05] >> No. No, you can't.
[8:06] >> Okay. Can I ask one more thing?
[8:08] >> Sure.
[8:09] >> Um
[8:10] I live over in the
[8:12] 55 and older if you can believe I'm over
[8:15] 55.
[8:16] >> I am, too.
[8:18] >> Over
[8:20] uh across from the hospital.
[8:22] The city put a
[8:24] uh
[8:27] sewer line across the road from our
[8:29] homes to the
[8:31] um
[8:32] it's a
[8:35] nursery. What do I want to think?
[8:38] Daycare. Daycare center.
[8:40] >> Okay.
[8:40] >> And the where they patched the road it's
[8:44] sinking. It's getting deeper.
[8:47] So, I didn't know where to go till I
[8:48] >> Well, we can certainly get a hold of our
[8:51] road superintendent and make him aware
[8:53] of that.
[8:54] >> Okay.
[8:55] All right. Thank you very much.
[8:57] >> Thank you for your time.
[8:58] >> Thank you, Laurel.
[8:59] >> Thank you.
[9:02] » I apologize and they didn't start coming
[9:04] more.
[9:05] >> Okay.
[9:05] >> Awesome.
[9:06] >> No need to apologize. We're all busy,
[9:08] but please come.
[9:14] Anyone else?
[9:18] Wonderful. Another one.
[9:25] » Got to lower this. I'm a little short.
[9:27] Um my name's Morgan. Some of you know
[9:30] me. Um
[9:32] I'm here as a citizen, not as an
[9:34] employee. I am very passionate about
[9:37] what I'm about to speak about. Some of
[9:38] you have heard about it.
[9:40] AI data centers.
[9:42] What is a data center?
[9:45] It's something that a big machine that
[9:47] we've all seen over TikTok, Google
[9:50] pictures, Facebook, and everything else.
[9:53] It's here to help
[9:55] um with our intelligence and our
[9:57] technology, but also
[9:59] what else is it bringing to us?
[10:01] It's going to bring not only detriment
[10:04] to our environment, heat, and everything
[10:07] else. Um it also is not going to be
[10:11] saving us a lot of money. As you can
[10:13] tell, I've done my research. Um
[10:17] Who all agrees?
[10:19] One in seven Americans, excuse me,
[10:22] um
[10:23] don't know even know what an AI data
[10:25] center is. Seven out of 10 Americans
[10:28] disapprove. Um this was Washington Post
[10:31] 7 days ago. Seven out of 10 Utahns
[10:34] disapprove. KSL, Salt Lake Tribune,
[10:37] Connecticut Public have posted.
[10:40] Um
[10:42] That's a lot of people. I also do not
[10:45] appreciate what they are doing. Um or
[10:48] the technology of what we are trying to
[10:50] survey.
[10:51] The background of what it's doing. This
[10:53] may seem uh sound hyperbolic, but data
[10:56] centers truly are resource ravenous.
[10:59] Even a mid-size data center consumes as
[11:01] much as water as a small town, which if
[11:04] you know Payson's a town, and this would
[11:07] consume over 50,000
[11:10] um
[11:12] people that would be affected. It
[11:14] consumes 5 million gallons per day
[11:17] on some of the older AI data centers.
[11:21] Um a study done in Texas
[11:23] um in Houston Advanced Research Center
[11:26] said that data centers in Texas will use
[11:30] 49 billion gallons of water in 2025, as
[11:33] much as 39
[11:35] 399 billion gallons in 2030.
[11:39] That would be equivalent of drawing down
[11:41] to the largest reservoir in the US by
[11:43] 157,000
[11:45] acres in Lake Mead. That's 16 ft per
[11:48] year.
[11:50] Um
[11:52] who is paying for this? We will be
[11:54] paying for it, not tech companies. I
[11:56] have done the research in Box Elder and
[11:59] everything else of what they would be
[12:02] paying. The tech companies pay less than
[12:04] 6% of their taxes a year. That's less
[12:08] than what an average income US resident
[12:10] pays is around 27%.
[12:12] Most towns and cities
[12:14] prices went up in utilities 10 to 25
[12:18] dollars per month or 8% nationwide.
[12:22] Um some increases even in Virginia have
[12:26] gone up 25 to 267%.
[12:29] That is a lot and most of us are already
[12:31] struggling.
[12:33] Um
[12:34] excuse me.
[12:38] Data centers will on average, especially
[12:41] in drier deserts like Utah, could raise
[12:45] um the minimum 8% statewide within 6
[12:48] months on the utility bills.
[12:50] This would also
[12:52] blow average 12% giving the corrections
[12:55] that they haven't done on the other ones
[12:57] that would be built in.
[12:59] This will take in 9 gigawatts of power
[13:03] and that's two times more than the state
[13:06] uses.
[13:09] Not only does they pay less in 10% or
[13:12] excuse me, 6% in taxes,
[13:15] um
[13:15] but also increasing our taxes. The one
[13:19] in Box Elder is paying 1% to put it in
[13:22] faster.
[13:24] I don't know about you, but if I'm
[13:26] paying my fair share, I think they
[13:28] should pay theirs.
[13:31] How much water will they use? A
[13:33] medium-size data center would consume
[13:36] around 100 plus million gallons per
[13:38] year. A large data center hyperscale
[13:41] facility,
[13:43] um, think as huge as the data centers,
[13:45] not including the Box Elder because that
[13:47] is the biggest one in the nation that
[13:49] would be put in, would use about 5
[13:52] gallon, uh, 5 million gallons per day.
[13:55] We're already a driest desert. How much
[13:57] more can they take from us when we're
[13:59] already paying for water restrictions
[14:02] and they are not?
[14:04] Nationally, the, um, aggregate impact is
[14:07] significant but not enormous compared to
[14:10] other sectors. All US data centers
[14:12] combined were estimated to consume 449
[14:16] million gallons of water per day.
[14:19] That's 1.7
[14:21] billion liters just in 2021.
[14:25] And, excuse me.
[14:28] Um,
[14:30] personally, I think that's
[14:32] something that's in a, even in a closed
[14:34] loop system, which I looked into as
[14:36] well,
[14:37] that does not include for evaporation.
[14:40] doesn't stay in, even if
[14:42] it's in closed loop system, it only
[14:45] saves about 80% of water, but that's
[14:47] still billions of gallons being lost.
[14:52] Personally, I don't think that people
[14:54] understand how much AI centers cost us,
[14:58] what will affect wildlife, residents,
[15:01] and our water.
[15:02] I implore you to put in legislation or,
[15:05] uh, vote to put that no AI data center
[15:09] come to Payson.
[15:11] Thank you.
[15:12] >> Thank you for that information.
[15:13] Appreciate your time and effort.
[15:17] And your passion.
[15:18] >> Yes.
[15:21] » Okay.
[15:22] Anyone else?
[15:25] Marty any be online?
[15:28] Okay, we'll go ahead and move on to
[15:29] staff reports.
[15:32] Any staff would like to address this?
[15:34] Okay, Chief.
[15:39] » They all looked at me cross-eyed back
[15:41] there. I don't know why.
[15:43] Um I just want to report um
[15:45] uh I don't know if you've seen it on our
[15:46] Facebook post and I hadn't reported yet,
[15:48] but uh we got just over $20,000 in
[15:51] donations for our K9
[15:53] uh new K9 pup. Uh our a couple of
[15:55] officers went to Las Vegas last week and
[15:57] picked up our new dog. Uh his name is
[15:59] Rook and we'll bring him in and to meet
[16:01] the council um
[16:03] here in the next couple weeks um till we
[16:05] get him acclimated and uh make sure he doesn't bite
[16:08] anybody. Um
[16:10] Just joking.
[16:12] Um I had one other thing and I forgot.
[16:15] Oh, our motors officers will graduate
[16:17] from motor school this Friday afternoon.
[16:20] So, um
[16:21] here in the next couple weeks you'll
[16:22] start seeing them around town on the
[16:23] trails um
[16:25] taking care of that summer crowd
[16:26] hopefully, so.
[16:28] >> Good.
[16:28] >> Um
[16:29] I think that's it. I had one more else,
[16:31] but I can't remember, but
[16:32] >> Chief, is Rook a German Shepherd?
[16:34] >> He is a I think he's a Malinois.
[16:38] >> Okay.
[16:39] >> Or a Dutch Shepherd. I I I don't know
[16:40] the difference between them.
[16:41] >> They look similar, but they're they're
[16:43] different.
[16:44] >> like a police dog.
[16:45] >> And how old is he now?
[16:46] >> He's two.
[16:47] >> Cute.
[16:47] >> He's two, yeah. We got him from a kennel
[16:49] in uh Las Vegas.
[16:51] >> Okay.
[16:52] >> So, you decided against the Chihuahua
[16:53] after all that.
[16:55] >> Yeah, the ankle biters are a little
[16:56] dangerous, so we went with something a
[16:58] little more even tempered.
[17:01] >> It's good. Thanks.
[17:02] >> Thank you, Chief.
[17:05] Any other staff?
[17:09] Okay, not seeing any. We'll move to
[17:11] council reports uh Council Smith.
[17:14] I started over here with Bob, so you get
[17:16] to do the next one.
[17:17] >> Oh, okay. Dale, um
[17:20] kind of following up on the police
[17:21] chief. I'm I'm super excited for the
[17:23] motorcycles.
[17:24] I uh
[17:25] with the new law that went into place
[17:27] and everything else, I
[17:29] super excited for them.
[17:31] Um
[17:32] and then
[17:34] I just wanted to I know I've reached out
[17:36] to Tracy and um Carl, but
[17:41] I keep having I guess I'm the
[17:45] complainant
[17:46] of the sprinklers because I live near
[17:48] there maybe, but
[17:50] um and then I drive by, but I was just
[17:53] curious how I know that the parks guys
[17:55] are there mowing all the time at the
[17:57] ball fields, but like how often do they
[17:59] turn the sprinklers on cuz
[18:02] just even yesterday I saw two more
[18:03] broken ones that were different and um I
[18:07] just know that a lot of people are
[18:08] reaching out and I just want to us as a
[18:10] city to lead by example
[18:12] um with the watering and such and so
[18:15] I don't know. I was just curious how
[18:17] often they're checked.
[18:21] Yeah, that's what I
[18:27] » Times of day we water off times of
[18:30] citizens.
[18:31] So so you might see it, but we we do
[18:33] that to keep the pressure off for the
[18:35] citizens. So it might look like we're
[18:38] doing something. We've got a watering
[18:39] down on 9:30 a lot.
[18:41] >> Oh no, I was meaning like the broken
[18:42] sprinklers, like that they check for
[18:44] them.
[18:46] Okay.
[18:49] No, I I emailed him. I just hadn't heard
[18:51] back, so I wanted to
[18:56] Okay. I'll check with him again. I I I
[18:58] can
[18:59] contact him. I'd emailed him, but I
[19:00] hadn't heard back. So just something
[19:03] that I guess for everyone.
[19:06] Okay. Thanks.
[19:07] >> that we have to take care of that lawn
[19:09] uh grass It's bit different than the the
[19:11] public has with because they're
[19:12] >> about the amount of watering. It was the
[19:15] there's just a lot of broken and wasting
[19:17] some of the water. And so yeah, it's go
[19:19] it's just spouting up and getting on the
[19:21] road and that was just
[19:22] >> Appreciate that info.
[19:23] >> That's all. Yeah.
[19:25] >> Wonderful. Anything else?
[19:27] >> No.
[19:27] >> Okay, Councilman Rowley.
[19:29] >> Thank you, Mayor. Thanks, citizens and
[19:30] staff, too. Happy graduation day to all
[19:33] our seniors leaving us.
[19:34] Uh
[19:36] I thank the the residents that came and
[19:37] shared some very valid concerns with
[19:39] this tonight and I'm thankful for the
[19:41] work you do at the landfill as well.
[19:42] Thank you for everything you do at the
[19:43] skill house. And I do share that that
[19:46] sentiment and I do just issue a little
[19:48] challenge to all of us to put our money
[19:49] where their mouth is. We all say how bad
[19:52] we hate data centers. We need to slow
[19:54] down our use of AI. The it's not because
[19:56] of a lack of demand that they're trying
[19:58] to build these everywhere. Uh not only
[20:00] will the the data centers be a detriment
[20:02] to our water and our our our our
[20:05] environment and you name it, but also on
[20:08] a social level, the AI, if left
[20:10] unchecked, will be a detriment to our
[20:12] economy and our civilization as we know
[20:14] it as well. And so I just invite all of
[20:16] us say if if we're going to complain
[20:18] about data centers, which I do, I'm one
[20:20] of them, let's be a little more
[20:21] cognizant about what we're using online.
[20:23] It also uses a lot more transmission
[20:26] power and distribution power when we're
[20:27] always using AI as well. And so that's
[20:30] just something to be mindful of and I do wonder if if in our code
[20:34] do we need to have as we're doing the
[20:36] code rewrite, is there anything in there
[20:38] right now about
[20:40] does a name data center specifically or
[20:43] could they come in and and and work the
[20:45] system so have it. So I wonder if that's
[20:47] something we need to look at so that if
[20:49] they do approach us, they do come in,
[20:50] it's on our terms and not on theirs. And
[20:53] so maybe that's something we we look at.
[20:55] This is such a hot topic item right now.
[20:58] Maybe that's something we look at if
[20:59] protecting our code against data centers
[21:01] so that we're in the driver's seat and
[21:03] not them.
[21:05] And Chief, I'm so excited about the dog.
[21:07] Thanks to all the residents and the
[21:09] businesses that helped out with that. It
[21:10] looks like that was no no issue at all
[21:12] because of the amount of support and
[21:14] love that we have for our law
[21:15] enforcement in this area. So, thanks to
[21:17] everybody that supported and donated.
[21:19] And that's all I have. Happy Memorial
[21:21] Day, everyone. I love this country.
[21:23] >> Yep.
[21:24] I will second that as well. Happy
[21:26] Memorial I'm I'm going to jump in here.
[21:28] Uh I've got the announced announcement
[21:31] that we've just been able to to ring out
[21:33] of the company that's coming. We just
[21:36] came up back from the ICSC it's a
[21:39] retailers conference.
[21:41] Uh it was probably from my point of view
[21:44] the best one in the last 8 years that
[21:46] I've attended down there. We There's a
[21:47] lot of things that are very very
[21:49] positive that are
[21:50] being contemplated and almost ready to
[21:53] take place. But uh the the announcement I'd like to make
[21:57] and it'll be it's in the paper today is
[21:58] that uh
[22:00] it's been long time incoming
[22:02] but uh Lowe's a home improvement store
[22:05] is coming to Payson.
[22:07] They are They are very excited to come
[22:09] and we are very excited to have them.
[22:10] So, it's something that
[22:13] we have kind of kept under the under
[22:15] wraps for at least 9 to 12 months. It's
[22:19] you get them so far and then somebody
[22:21] else. So, I just wanted to make that
[22:24] official announcement.
[22:26] >> Okay, Councilman Moss.
[22:28] >> Um I don't have much to say. I'd like to
[22:29] echo what Ryan said about AI data
[22:32] centers. Um
[22:34] Yeah, the water isn't just the only
[22:35] issue. It's the power. I've had a chance
[22:38] to talk to our power director about it
[22:39] and
[22:41] um
[22:43] if anyone wants to talk to him, he knows
[22:44] what he's talking about.
[22:46] Um
[22:47] I'm excited about the dog, too.
[22:49] And congratulations to our police our
[22:52] police officers.
[22:54] And thank you to our all of our first
[22:55] responders as usual and thank you to all
[22:57] our staff, too. I just didn't have much
[22:59] to talk about this week.
[23:01] >> Councilman Provo, you're
[23:03] >> Uh just a couple things. We received notice back from Santaquin
[23:09] uh on our solid waste agreement with
[23:11] them.
[23:12] And they've decided that
[23:14] we're not cost-effective for them, so
[23:18] they'll be presenting to their council
[23:19] of renewing their contract with
[23:22] uh their current contract carrier.
[23:24] Um so we
[23:28] I don't know. I guess I would say we got
[23:30] outbid.
[23:32] Which breaks my heart.
[23:34] >> Not really.
[23:35] >> Not even.
[23:36] So
[23:37] uh
[23:39] yeah.
[23:40] I'm I'm tickled to death to see uh I
[23:43] I've driven around twice in the last few
[23:45] days trying to find
[23:47] the the yard of the month and the most
[23:49] improved yard of the month. And both
[23:51] times I've seen our crews out spraying
[23:54] weeds.
[23:55] I think that's just absolutely
[23:57] remarkable that
[23:59] uh
[23:59] we're on top of that. And would we make
[24:01] sure
[24:03] that
[24:04] whoever that I don't know what
[24:06] department that's from.
[24:08] Would it would it be Carl's?
[24:12] » For our maintenance.
[24:13] >> Yeah.
[24:15] Okay.
[24:15] >> Yeah, could be Kent's.
[24:17] >> Yeah, make sure they get a uh thank you
[24:20] and
[24:22] Okay. Push push it off push it off on
[24:24] them.
[24:27] It's what?
[24:29] Okay.
[24:31] Yeah, he was clear down clear down on
[24:33] 8th South today.
[24:35] Um re- really pleased to to see that
[24:37] taking place and
[24:39] being being the example of pacing before
[24:42] we have a PR letter ready for the
[24:44] council to look at and
[24:46] send out to all the citizens
[24:48] on the beautification committee.
[24:50] Appreciate the mayor being
[24:52] to the committee meeting last week and
[24:55] that brings me to if any of the council
[24:58] has a suggestion of yard of the month or
[25:01] most improved yard,
[25:03] uh
[25:03] could you get it to me before Tuesday?
[25:06] We meet Tuesday at 4:00 again and we'll
[25:09] be selecting June's
[25:11] for that.
[25:12] And then just appreciate staff
[25:14] very much. So,
[25:16] uh everybody from administration, Robert
[25:19] and Dave for all that you're doing and and
[25:22] helping with to
[25:24] the landfill. I I love going out to the
[25:26] landfill and seeing how clean it is.
[25:29] Uh
[25:29] I frequent it often, don't I?
[25:34] Yeah.
[25:36] She no She no longer IDs me.
[25:38] Uh
[25:39] she she's finally figured out who I am.
[25:41] So,
[25:42] a pest.
[25:44] So, thank you and I I echo uh Memorial
[25:48] Day. It's It's one of the American
[25:50] traditions of
[25:51] remem- remembering not only our loved
[25:53] ones, but veterans and everybody else that
[25:56] have passed on for for their sacrifice.
[25:59] So,
[26:00] I love America.
[26:01] Thank you.
[26:03] >> And I have I have one more thing.
[26:05] >> Yeah, go ahead.
[26:06] >> Um every day on my way to work I pass I
[26:08] go down 9:30 and I just wanted to again
[26:11] mention
[26:13] how great Tracy and his team and all
[26:15] those people are doing because the
[26:17] landscaping looks amazing.
[26:20] Um
[26:21] the grass, the water, they've put
[26:23] boulders in for different elements of
[26:25] the landscaping.
[26:27] It is beautiful. So, thank you so much.
[26:30] It's not an eyesore anymore down that
[26:32] street.
[26:33] >> I'm glad you brought that up.
[26:34] >> Yeah.
[26:35] Uh-huh.
[26:39] Oh, nice.
[26:46] Oh, wow. It's going to be absolutely
[26:48] breathtaking. So, thank you so much.
[26:51] Good. I'm so glad.
[26:53] Also, I'm wondering if we can get that builder to move that bridge because
[26:58] we were walking that path and there were
[27:03] some kids underneath it and we walked
[27:05] across it. It's very wobbly. We need him
[27:07] to move it just
[27:09] away. Um
[27:13] Mhm.
[27:21] Oh, good.
[27:23] Yeah.
[27:27] Okay.
[27:31] Yeah, reach out to him cuz nothing is
[27:33] happening over there as usual, but
[27:36] the bridge
[27:38] Yeah, I know. It's so weird.
[27:41] But the bridge isn't safe. It's wobbly
[27:43] and I'm afraid that now that the path
[27:45] goes down that way, people will be
[27:46] crossing that bridge and it's not safe.
[27:48] So
[27:52] Yeah.
[27:53] just put it on the road behind
[27:55] there something.
[27:57] Yeah.
[27:58] it's weird.
[28:00] Um
[28:01] So, that's all. Now I'm done.
[28:03] >> That's good. Well, I just wanted to echo
[28:04] what
[28:07] Bob said at the very end of his
[28:09] comments.
[28:10] I think we all love America and and God
[28:12] bless us. So, I just wanted to add that.
[28:15] Okay.
[28:17] Moving on to E, action items, resolution
[28:19] approving the amended interlocal
[28:21] agreement between Utah County and Payson
[28:23] City for a road project within the
[28:25] municipal limits of Payson City. Dave,
[28:27] you have some information for us.
[28:29] >> Yeah, we entered into a contract with
[28:31] Utah County. It was the the funds that
[28:33] our lobbyists got for us. It's
[28:34] administered
[28:36] by Utah County.
[28:38] $3 million. The bid for the two blocks came in less.
[28:43] The way the contract was structured, it
[28:45] was limited to just that. So, if you
[28:47] don't spend it, goes back and I asked
[28:49] the county manager to see if the county
[28:52] would allow us to
[28:53] use that to finish out the rest of the
[28:55] Main Street project.
[28:57] Uh
[28:57] the the breezeway
[28:59] that connects the parking lot in the
[29:00] street and the the parking lot by me
[29:03] Rancho Viejo that's the city's.
[29:04] Those are the last two parts of the
[29:06] whole project. So,
[29:08] and so the county approved it. If if the
[29:10] city would approve this interlocal
[29:11] amendment, then
[29:13] hopefully we can get those two items
[29:14] done
[29:16] along with the 6th and 7th
[29:18] South of Main and then we can check that off the box
[29:22] that we've finally finished the whole
[29:24] project.
[29:25] >> Be a wonderful box to check.
[29:26] >> Yep.
[29:27] >> Really will.
[29:27] >> Yes.
[29:28] >> Hey, while we're talking about it, do we
[29:30] have any recourse back to the contractor
[29:32] on the paint of our logo
[29:35] uh at the pretty roundabout right in the
[29:38] middle?
[29:38] >> No, but we I I think uh is that Brian
[29:40] Youatt found a a contractor? We're
[29:42] looking at some way to to make that more
[29:44] permanent.
[29:45] >> Okay.
[29:46] That uh
[29:48] they've done it once since it was done.
[29:51] It was I think it's been redone once.
[29:52] >> Yeah, that's the mayor.
[29:54] Uh that was here at DRC the other
[29:57] morning.
[29:58] They said that they have they have a way
[30:00] of etching that or sandblasting
[30:02] >> Uh-huh.
[30:03] >> down below and then painting it so that
[30:06] the snowplows and
[30:08] other wear and tear won't be as
[30:09] intrusive on it.
[30:10] >> Yeah, we're we're going to try to find
[30:12] some way to get that more permanent.
[30:14] >> I mean, that's that's our pride and joy
[30:15] there.
[30:16] >> I think they had it the original
[30:17] contractor had a a
[30:19] company that would do that and they I
[30:21] don't know if they went out of business
[30:22] or just left. I can't remember and so
[30:25] they painted it.
[30:26] >> Yeah.
[30:26] >> We knew it wasn't going to last.
[30:28] So,
[30:28] >> we were going to put that in brick if
[30:30] you remember right.
[30:31] >> We do.
[30:31] >> We were.
[30:32] >> We had to had to back off that because
[30:33] of COVID and the extra
[30:35] >> amount of money.
[30:36] >> cost and cost.
[30:36] >> Well, and hopefully it does snow again,
[30:38] too, and we have to be cognizant of
[30:40] snowplow going over that road, too. and this might be an unpopular
[30:43] sentiment, but if we can't get anything
[30:45] to stay there, I'm okay with moving it
[30:47] to the pedestrian
[30:48] uh area there on the other side of the fences too, doing it, cuz it will
[30:51] stay there. It's not going to get ran
[30:53] over and salted and snow plowed and
[30:54] >> Yeah.
[30:55] Okay.
[30:56] >> Something we look at.
[30:58] >> Okay.
[30:58] >> Where do we put the tree?
[31:00] >> Yeah, they put the tree there.
[31:02] >> Okay, is that it, Dave Pond? Next
[31:04] collection of items? Any Any discussion,
[31:06] Council, on that item?
[31:08] Okay.
[31:09] >> Okay.
[31:10] >> So, you're just asking that uh
[31:12] that you you're going to go seek this
[31:14] permission from the county. You haven't
[31:15] obtained it already.
[31:17] Oh, they have approved it.
[31:19] Oh, okay, very good. So, they'll let us
[31:21] do the parking lot, and oh, awesome.
[31:23] Very cool.
[31:23] >> That's what I say, that's going to be a
[31:24] great check the box to check.
[31:27] >> Yep.
[31:27] >> Mayor, I'd make a motion that we uh give authorization to the mayor to
[31:33] enter into an agreement with Utah County
[31:36] for a Payson City road project
[31:38] completion that of Main Street.
[31:42] Is there a second?
[31:43] >> I'll second.
[31:44] >> Okay, we have a motion and second. It's
[31:45] starting with Council Provost Guard.
[31:47] >> Yes.
[31:47] >> Council Moss?
[31:48] >> Yes.
[31:48] >> Council Ruley?
[31:49] >> Yes.
[31:49] >> Council Smith?
[31:50] >> Yes.
[31:51] >> Motion carries. Thank you. Going on to
[31:52] number two, resolution approving the
[31:54] second amendment to govern governing
[31:57] document of Red Bridge Public
[31:59] Infrastructure District Number One,
[32:02] and the second amendment to governing
[32:03] document of Red Bridge Public In-
[32:06] Infrastructure
[32:07] District Number Two, together the
[32:10] districts
[32:12] and related matters. Dave?
[32:14] >> So, Mayor and Council, we've talked
[32:16] about this in the past a little bit. The
[32:18] um there's been quite a bit of
[32:20] discussion this last legislative session
[32:23] with Utah State Auditor. Um
[32:25] we did create these PIDs uh according to
[32:28] state law.
[32:30] The law contemplated that once they're
[32:32] established, they're a separate entity.
[32:34] The city He no liability for that. They they run their own they have a
[32:38] board.
[32:39] Um the state auditor recently um there's
[32:42] a couple of PIDs one in Ivins and one in
[32:47] out by Price
[32:48] Coalville
[32:50] um that are struggling and so the state
[32:53] auditor was is telling the cities they
[32:55] have to make that part of their budget
[32:56] or their
[32:57] uh component
[33:00] um entity for for us. We pushed back on
[33:03] that a little bit. They haven't come
[33:04] after us but they start going after
[33:05] Smothers. I know the legislators were
[33:07] frustrated with that. They did pass a
[33:10] law but our our uh bond council that um
[33:15] helped us create the PIDs they
[33:18] drafted some language that the council
[33:19] could adopt that basically says
[33:23] that uh we do not
[33:25] appoint their board members. We're
[33:27] totally separate from them
[33:29] and just gives us a little more
[33:31] >> protection distances us a little further
[33:33] away.
[33:34] >> more distance.
[33:34] >> Which is good.
[33:36] >> And we have so that's the reason for the resolution um
[33:41] we definitely don't want if if if a PID
[33:43] goes
[33:45] bankrupt or something that comes back on
[33:46] us to pay that bill. So
[33:48] I and I think it's
[33:50] there's not a a big chance that would
[33:52] happen but the state auditor is pushing
[33:53] that way and so this would help
[33:56] make that distance a little better.
[33:57] >> Good thing for us to be preemptive on
[33:59] it.
[34:01] Council,
[34:04] » in protecting the the city.
[34:06] >> Great move in protecting the city and
[34:08] then I just hope the state continues to
[34:09] look at PIDs as well for taking unfair
[34:11] advantage of of residents sometimes too
[34:13] cuz when they do go belly up someone
[34:15] puts the bill and it's usually those
[34:17] that are least
[34:18] uh able to to do it. Yep. Yeah, it's not
[34:21] fair.
[34:23] >> Okay. Unless there's any further
[34:24] discussion I'm ready for a motion.
[34:27] >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the
[34:28] second amendment to the governing
[34:29] document of the Red Bridge Public
[34:31] Infrastructure District Number 1 and the
[34:33] second amendment to the governing
[34:34] document of Red Bridge Public
[34:36] Infrastructure District Number 2,
[34:39] together the districts and related
[34:40] matters.
[34:41] >> I'll second.
[34:42] >> Okay, we have a motion and it's been
[34:43] seconded. Starting with Council Smith.
[34:46] >> Yes.
[34:46] >> Councilor Rowley?
[34:47] >> Yes.
[34:48] >> Councilor Ross?
[34:48] >> Yes.
[34:49] >> Councilor Perboski?
[34:50] >> Yes.
[34:51] >> Wonderful. Motion carries.
[34:53] Next one, this is a short meeting. Like
[34:55] to get a motion to adjourn.
[34:57] >> So moved.
[34:58] >> Second.
[35:01] » Bob sacks.
[35:02] >> Okay, all in favor say I.
[35:03] >> I.
[35:05] >> Thank you, Mayor and Council. Appreciate
[35:06] it.
[35:09] » Boy, that was short and sweet.
[35:12] So, that was we