[0:04] in progress.

[0:05] >> Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it looks

[0:06] like it's six o'clock, so we may as well

[0:08] get started with the city PAC city

[0:10] council meeting for August 5th. And I

[0:13] just mentioned it was six o'clock. So,

[0:16] we'll start this meeting with prayer and

[0:18] council Rolley will do that for us.

[0:22] Our dear kind, loving father in heaven,

[0:24] father, we're so grateful for this day.

[0:26] As we pause in prayer, we're grateful to

[0:28] live in such a wonderful city and state

[0:31] and country. We're thankful for the

[0:33] people that live in PAC and make it so

[0:35] great. We're thankful for our first

[0:36] responders and for all of the the

[0:39] strength and preservation and safety

[0:42] they give us. Father, we do humbly ask

[0:44] at this time if thou will bless us with

[0:46] cooler temperatures and with rainfall in

[0:48] the coming days. Please fill our

[0:50] reservoirs. Father, please be with us

[0:52] tonight. Help us to be dignified and to

[0:55] make good decisions concerning the

[0:57] city's future. We love thee and we pray

[0:59] for these things in the name of thy

[1:00] beloved son Jesus Christ. Amen.

[1:03] >> Thank you Ryan. Council Moss and Moss

[1:06] will lead us in the pledge.

[1:08] >> Please stand

[1:10] up for me. I pledge algiance to the flag

[1:14] of the United States of America and to

[1:17] the republic for which it stands, one

[1:20] nation under God, indivisible, with

[1:24] liberty and justice for all.

[1:26] >> Thanks, An. Ladies and gentlemen, uh

[1:28] just a side note, many times I call on

[1:31] the city council to do do these things.

[1:33] If there's anyone that's in the general

[1:34] public that would love to uh take uh

[1:37] part in our meeting by doing the pledge

[1:39] or the the the uh uh prayer, we'd love

[1:42] to I'd love to entertain those

[1:44] volunteers, too.

[1:47] Okay, moving on to seek the consent

[1:50] agenda. Number one, the approval of the

[1:52] July 15th, 2026 council minutes.

[1:56] approval of the July 17th, 2026 city

[2:00] council work session meeting minutes and

[2:04] then the resolution update to employee

[2:07] policy regarding generative artificial

[2:10] intelligence AI for short.

[2:14] Uh council members, if there's any

[2:16] discussion, I'm more than happy to have

[2:18] that. If not, we'll I'm looking for a

[2:20] motion.

[2:21] >> I did want to make a mention on line

[2:23] item three. I'm glad to see that we're

[2:24] adopting uh guidelines regarding

[2:27] artificial intelligence in the workforce

[2:28] here at Pacin City. And I do want to I I

[2:31] like the way that this was worded. I I

[2:33] want to encourage everyone to follow

[2:34] that policy and always double check the

[2:36] work and never use the never lose the

[2:40] human element uh as we progress with

[2:42] this this AI.

[2:45] >> Okay. Any other comments, concerns?

[2:47] Okay.

[2:49] >> Great.

[2:50] >> Very great policy.

[2:51] >> Yep. Okay.

[2:53] >> Start.

[2:54] >> Yep. Okay. Is there a motion?

[2:57] >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the

[2:58] consent agenda.

[2:59] >> A second.

[3:01] >> Okay. We have a motion been seconded.

[3:03] Starting with the uh robo. Starting with

[3:06] council provos guard.

[3:07] >> Yes.

[3:07] >> Council Moss.

[3:08] >> Yes.

[3:09] >> Rley.

[3:09] >> Yes.

[3:10] >> Council Smith.

[3:11] >> Yes.

[3:11] >> Thank you. Motion carries.

[3:16] Okay. Um moving on to D. Petitions. Yard

[3:20] of the month. Uh yard of the month. I

[3:22] don't think we have an improved one. So,

[3:24] we'll turn some time over to council.

[3:27] >> Well, this is a month coming. We uh went

[3:30] for a great great tour of the community

[3:34] uh in the end of June

[3:37] uh and we uh selected a yard of the

[3:39] month and was unable to make contact.

[3:42] They were out of town and uh made

[3:44] contact with them a couple days after

[3:46] the fact. And so we we just moved them

[3:49] to this month and presented last

[3:51] month's. And so I'd like to present the

[3:53] yard of the month to Todd and Dory

[3:55] Hollesman. If they'd like to come up, uh

[3:59] they have a very beautiful yard out of

[4:01] Arrow Park Circle.

[4:03] They spend

[4:11] $100.

[4:24] You guys want to stand

[4:33] up?

[4:36] >> Okay.

[4:54] Did you get

[4:57] >> Yes. Thank you for

[4:59] being

[5:04] » We are having fun on the

[5:06] beautifification committee and this

[5:08] Saturday morning if any of the council

[5:10] would like to participate with us, we

[5:12] have a service project that we're going

[5:14] to clean up a really bad corner uh that

[5:18] the that the PL the beautifification

[5:19] committee identified and as one of our

[5:22] projects that's on the list that hasn't

[5:23] been chosen yet. And so we felt like we

[5:26] ought to put our money where our mouth

[5:28] is and go do a project. And so Saturday

[5:30] morning at 7, if anybody's interested,

[5:33] come join us.

[5:33] >> Did you text the the details?

[5:35] >> I'll text the details in the

[5:37] >> What time?

[5:38] >> 7 a.m.

[5:40] >> I know. We want that early.

[5:43] >> We're We're thinking an hour, hour and a

[5:45] half tops. Uh we'll be

[5:47] >> That's what they all say.

[5:50] >> We did, didn't we, Robert Dave?

[5:52] Committed. committed to an hour, hour

[5:54] and a half tops. All right.

[5:57] >> Yep.

[5:59] >> Or salmon.

[6:01] >> Yeah. Could be salmon.

[6:04] >> Okay. Anything further? Nope. Let me let

[6:08] me do something before we move on any

[6:09] further. I'd like to excuse council

[6:12] Brian

[6:14] from tonight's meeting. Okay. Uh moving

[6:19] on to number two, the public forum.

[6:20] Anyone can speak. Uh, please pay

[6:23] attention to a timeline of roughly 3

[6:24] minutes and let us know who you are and

[6:27] uh, where you live. Okay, we'll go and

[6:30] open the public. So, I figured you were

[6:31] going to jump up. Yes, I did.

[6:37] » Yes.

[6:41] » Oh, just kidding. Wendy Osborne with

[6:44] Tabith's Way local food pantry. That's

[6:45] loud.

[6:46] >> Hey, Robert, could we scoot the entire

[6:48] podium forward so our speaker is not

[6:50] behind the flag? So Lacy can see who is

[6:52] >> I think she she's fine with that.

[6:55] >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[6:57] >> All right. Um mayor and council members

[7:01] of PAC city, um on behalf of Tabitha's

[7:03] Way and Donations of Feed, u we would

[7:05] like to respectfully request permission

[7:08] to relocate our clothing donation bins.

[7:10] Um we would like to propose moving them

[7:13] to the side of the building nearest to

[7:14] the police department. Um to accommodate

[7:16] the move, we are proposing that we

[7:19] extend the sidewalk to prevent any

[7:21] prevent taking up any parking spots. Tap

[7:24] of this way and donations of feed would

[7:26] assume all the cost to extend the

[7:28] sidewalk um to the new location. This

[7:30] project we would come at no cost to the

[7:32] city. Our goal is to address the ongoing

[7:35] challenges at the current location.

[7:37] Although the bends are intended only for

[7:39] clothing and shoes, they have become a

[7:40] frequent target for dumping, illegal

[7:44] dumping after hours. uh furniture,

[7:46] broken appliances, household items. As

[7:48] you can see today, if you drove up,

[7:49] there is now a smoker out there. We

[7:51] picked up the bins today and now there's

[7:53] a smoker out there. Um large amounts of

[7:55] trash have routinely been left outside

[7:57] of the bins, creating an unsightly

[7:59] appearance at the entrance to the city

[8:01] hall. Um this reflects poorly on both

[8:03] the city and our organizations.

[8:05] Tabitha's way and donations to feed have

[8:07] assumed all the cost associated with

[8:09] cleaning up the illegal dumps and in

[8:10] many cases our trucks have to first fill

[8:13] up with fill up all the trash to remove

[8:15] the furniture and garbage before they

[8:16] can even access the bins. Uh this

[8:19] requires um them to make additional

[8:21] trips making it significantly increasing

[8:23] our um operation costs exi

[8:25] significantly. We have experienced

[8:27] repeated thefts from the bins as well

[8:30] further impacting our ability to serve

[8:32] the community. Relocating the bins

[8:34] adjacent to the police department would

[8:35] provide a strong deterrent to illegal

[8:37] dumping dumping and theft while allowing

[8:40] this valuable community this valuable

[8:42] community resource to remain accessible.

[8:44] These two donation bins generate funding

[8:46] that provides approximately just these

[8:48] two bins 20,000 meals each year. Um uh

[8:53] making them making them an important

[8:55] asset to our community. We believe this

[8:56] solution benefits everyone. It improves

[8:59] the appearance of the city property,

[9:01] reduces unlawful activity, lowers

[9:03] cleanup costs, and preserves an

[9:04] important resource of support for

[9:06] families facing food insecurity. We

[9:08] thank you for your consideration. We

[9:10] appreciate your part partnership and

[9:12] welcome the opportunity to discuss this

[9:13] proposal further.

[9:15] >> Sounds good to me.

[9:16] >> Wendy and I have we went round and round

[9:18] on this and we we just want to try and

[9:20] find a place that the that be good for

[9:23] the police department and also for the

[9:25] facility. We'll just have to take a look

[9:27] and see where we're

[9:28] >> a great organization and thank you and I

[9:30] >> thank you.

[9:31] >> We can accommodate that, can't we, Dave?

[9:34] >> Yeah, we need to look at I think we've

[9:35] looked at it before.

[9:38] >> We've we've looked at a number of times.

[9:40] >> I I agree. I think we ought to do what

[9:43] we can to make that work.

[9:44] >> Okay.

[9:45] >> I I do want to thank Tabitha's way. You

[9:46] guys are wonderful organization, great

[9:48] community partner, helps so many. And I

[9:50] also want to thank your workers. I mean,

[9:52] it for how much that gets furniture and

[9:54] washers and drives everything. You guys

[9:55] clean it up amazingly fast.

[9:57] >> Oh, good. We try to do our best.

[9:58] >> That's using too much manpower to do

[10:00] that. And that is not the pace in

[10:02] landfill, despite what a lot of people

[10:03] think.

[10:04] >> So, let's let's put it close to police

[10:06] station. That sounds good.

[10:07] >> Yeah. Well, if you look at the police

[10:09] station, if you're looking at it

[10:10] straight on, if you look towards the

[10:11] right, there's a of course we understand

[10:13] that there's parking lots and things

[10:15] like that that your parking stalls that

[10:17] you have minimum space for, and we don't

[10:19] want to take up any more of your

[10:20] parking. We thought maybe extending that

[10:22] sidewalk to a little bit further this

[10:25] way. So if you're looking at the police

[10:26] department on the right side

[10:28] >> to the west. Yeah.

[10:29] >> Uh yeah. And so if we extended it just

[10:30] one more set out, we could put the bins

[10:33] there and it wouldn't take up parking

[10:36] and also maybe would stop this nonsense

[10:38] was our proposal. But anything whatever

[10:40] you feel like would work. But we're and

[10:42] we're willing to assume those costs. But

[10:44] >> um yeah, we just want to see that

[10:46] nonsense stop.

[10:48] >> Perfect.

[10:48] >> I think it's a great idea. Okay. Um,

[10:50] what would the next steps be to follow

[10:52] up with that? Do we just

[10:53] >> We'll just get with staff and the police

[10:55] department and see if we can find a

[10:57] appropriate place.

[10:58] >> Okay. Thank you.

[11:00] >> Yeah. My only wonder is if with the the limited parking there. I don't

[11:04] know. Maybe maybe there's a more

[11:05] advantageous place, but maybe that's the

[11:06] best place. Brad, I'll leave that up to

[11:08] you. But okay. How embarrassing that'll

[11:11] be though to come out of the police

[11:12] station and see a bunch of furniture

[11:14] there every morning, huh?

[11:16] >> Yeah. Well, that that's what Wendy would

[11:19] like to avoid and hopefully that'll be

[11:21] the case.

[11:25] Okay. Anyone like else like to come up

[11:27] and address this in the public forum?

[11:30] Not seeing any anybody online.

[11:33] Okay. Not seeing anyone. We'll go ahead

[11:36] and close the public forum. Move on to

[11:38] staff reports.

[11:42] Any Okay, Janine.

[11:49] mayor and council. Sorry, my voice is

[11:52] really bad. So, anyway, I apologize

[11:55] though I am still a little nervous. I'm

[11:57] not as nerd as what I sound like I am.

[12:00] Anyway, so um Council Member Roelly was asking me

[12:05] and I was thinking about what you said.

[12:08] So, we were talking about the parade. He

[12:10] was asking when the parade was going to

[12:11] start and I talked to my parade staff

[12:15] and sometimes we're not on the same

[12:17] page. So I went out and called her. So

[12:20] even still her and I need to go and

[12:22] physically like point and look. So um he

[12:26] was requesting just seeing if we could

[12:28] start the parade behind that little red

[12:31] barn. Right now I can't think of the

[12:33] family's name. Yes. Yes. So with that

[12:36] being said, we still have to do a lot of

[12:38] staging in front of those houses because

[12:41] that's where the new ins and outs are to

[12:44] the high school. So your um bands, your

[12:48] horses, all that is still so staging the

[12:52] it won't be directly in front of their

[12:55] house on the highway going north, but it

[12:59] still will be across the street

[13:02] basically. So it mean they'll still have

[13:04] the parade.

[13:06] It's still going to be a staging area

[13:08] even though it's still I was telling her

[13:11] it I'm asking if it's in front of their

[13:13] house and she's like no. And I'm like

[13:15] but it's across the street, right? Yes.

[13:17] I'm like okay it's still front of their

[13:19] house anyway. But we've measured that

[13:22] and for our shuttle to be able to make

[13:24] it back and forth and drop off because

[13:27] we're going to keep everything on the

[13:28] west side still in front of the high

[13:30] school going all the way down Spring

[13:32] Lake. And so our shuttles can be on the

[13:34] east side. That's where they drop off

[13:37] the kids and they have to have that road

[13:39] to go back and forth. So I know those

[13:42] three homes, four homes. Anyway, I did

[13:45] put notes on their doors last year

[13:47] letting them know and it's still going

[13:50] to be pretty much the same. It's not

[13:52] going to be right in front of their

[13:53] houses, but it's still going to be in

[13:55] front of cuz the high school is where we

[13:58] stage. So, anyway, um let's say just

[14:02] letting you know, we are preparing for

[14:04] salmon supper this week. I don't know if

[14:06] you've driven by the park. Um things

[14:09] happen. I mean, we are just so

[14:11] fortunate. This is just

[14:15] We're awesome basically. I mean, I hate

[14:18] everyone know, but we have an awesome

[14:21] city and the volunteers, everything how

[14:25] this comes together. So, I don't know if

[14:28] you've driven by the park, but it's just

[14:30] like clockwork. Kent's team comes in

[14:32] first with the sand. Then we bring the

[14:35] first load of wood. That happens on

[14:36] Monday. And Tuesday it just knocks out.

[14:39] the tent comes in and we're just like

[14:41] bang bang bang bang. So, we're so

[14:43] excited. Every year we're just it's

[14:47] we're not comfortable until it's about

[14:49] 8:00 pm on Friday, but we're hoping

[14:52] we're ready to go. We're for another

[14:54] great successful salmon supper. Um

[14:57] tomorrow I'll meet with the cheerleaders

[14:59] and we're going to wrap potatoes and

[15:01] that's when the t the um where you guys

[15:04] will be cutting fish that goes up

[15:06] tomorrow too. So, um, tables and chairs,

[15:09] the first load's already been delivered.

[15:11] We have two more to come in tonight and

[15:13] tomorrow. So, it's exciting. It's

[15:16] magical if you ask me how it all comes

[15:19] together. So, um, football team will be

[15:21] there on Friday to set up all tables and

[15:24] chairs. Um, we are concerned about, um,

[15:28] the heat. I mean, we're concerned about

[15:30] that every year, but especially this

[15:32] year. Um, so we're pushing most of our

[15:36] tables south into the shade. We'll still

[15:40] keep a tent, but that one area kind of

[15:43] by where we serve um will be sparse

[15:46] because it's in the sun the whole time.

[15:48] So basically, we're just going to go

[15:50] south and it's going to be quite lovely.

[15:53] It'll remind me of CO when we really

[15:56] spread it out. And I actually really

[15:58] like that and I think the people did

[15:59] too. So, we should be in the shape most

[16:02] of the time for everyone. So, um let's

[16:05] see what else. Um Oh, I need your help.

[16:10] So, I need each of you to give me two

[16:13] hours on Labor Day.

[16:16] Are you able to do that?

[16:19] Well, that is our main event that

[16:21] everyone should be to because it's our

[16:23] city event. So, that's September 7th. So

[16:28] yeah, every employee actually has to

[16:30] work on Labor Day. So it's our city

[16:33] event. So Onion Days, what's that? Yes,

[16:36] you are. So there you go. So Onion Days,

[16:40] I need you from 12 to 6 and you guys can

[16:42] figure out what time you can give me.

[16:45] I'd like each of you to get me at least

[16:46] two hours. Um it's a fun tent. I want

[16:50] you to run. It's the photo booth and

[16:53] it's the 250. It'll all be decorated. So

[16:56] basically people can they'll go inside

[16:59] of it. There's banners and balloons and

[17:01] they'll be able to put on glasses and

[17:03] hats and stuff. So it's a photo booth to

[17:07] remember the 250th year. So it's kind of

[17:10] a fun little thing we're going to do. So

[17:12] I thought it'd be a great opportunity

[17:14] for you guys to visit with the public

[17:16] and have them go in and you know you

[17:19] could take their picture and stuff. So

[17:21] I'm hoping that's a a win-win. So, I'll

[17:23] let you guys figure out your time and

[17:26] let me know so I can write it down. So,

[17:29] okay, that's everything. Any questions?

[17:32] >> No question on my part, but just a

[17:34] statement. You know, there's been

[17:35] concern about PAC city residents being

[17:37] able to participate in the Simon Supper,

[17:39] and I wrote in my mayor's message this for this month, over 2,000 PAC

[17:45] residents were able to get tickets. We made time for just four PAC

[17:49] residents. Yes. We've done that for the

[17:51] last three years.

[17:52] >> Yes. Correct.

[17:52] >> Okay. Just wanted to make that

[17:54] statement.

[17:55] >> Yep. They get to buy after Memorial Day,

[17:58] they have Tuesday, Wednesday, and

[17:59] Thursday to buy. So, yeah, those and

[18:03] they sell quick, too. So, in June, the

[18:07] 1st of June, that's the the first Monday

[18:09] in June, they open up for the public

[18:11] after that. And they sold out in seven

[18:14] minutes.

[18:16] So, I know I'm as popular as Taylor

[18:18] Swift, so just it's okay.

[18:22] So,

[18:22] >> thanks for all you do.

[18:24] >> All right. Thank you. That didn't get a

[18:26] very big cloud, by the way. Just saying.

[18:28] >> My trailer's still available, Janine. My

[18:31] trailer's still available.

[18:34] And I don't think it needs to be

[18:35] insulated to keep anything warm right

[18:37] now. I have it on good notice. It's

[18:40] going to be about 103 Friday.

[18:43] Oh, you want it cold.

[18:44] >> It needs I've been trying to

[18:46] >> I've been trying to find a trailer. I'm

[18:49] not done yet, but I'm continuing to try.

[18:55] » Oh, I thought you wanted to keep it

[18:56] warm.

[19:02] » We don't need to bake on site.

[19:04] >> Chief,

[19:06] >> I just wanted to come and say thanks for

[19:08] uh to our sponsors who sponsored our

[19:10] event last night at the park, our

[19:11] national night out, and those of you

[19:12] that came. Uh Smith's food donated the

[19:15] hot dogs. Well, most of them, Robert

[19:17] donated some of them. uh the uh hot dog

[19:20] buns and and hot dogs and some of the

[19:22] fixings uh come from Smith's

[19:24] Marketplace. So, we thank them. And uh

[19:26] Terrisco Tacos, Ricardo donated all the

[19:29] tacos. Uh Mountain America Credit Union

[19:32] donated drinks and some of their staff

[19:34] to help. So, I just wanted to thank them

[19:35] for for their stuff. We ran out and

[19:38] Robert bailed me out. We went through

[19:41] 165 hot dogs and I said, "Robert, we're

[19:44] out." He said, "I'll

[19:44] >> 20 minutes."

[19:45] >> In 20 minutes, yes. It was a large crowd

[19:48] and Robert gracefully hopped in his car

[19:50] and did put the Smiths and bought more.

[19:53] So anyway, we we served about a thousand

[19:56] tacos and 264 hot dogs. So So it was

[20:00] fun, but I just wanted to publicly thank

[20:02] our sponsors. So

[20:06] >> thank you, Chief.

[20:10] » Seriously, that was such a fun event. It

[20:12] was great. Um, mayor and council, I just

[20:15] wanted to get up uh and publicly thank

[20:17] uh Jason in our IT department for his

[20:20] help with the AI policy. Uh, that was

[20:22] really, really great and he led that

[20:25] effort and we really appreciate him

[20:26] doing that. Uh, I also, um, just wanted

[20:30] to give a little bit of an update. Uh,

[20:33] there were some questions in the

[20:34] community about data centers. Uh, this

[20:37] week I posted a little thing about PACE

[20:40] and cities. um stance on those and

[20:44] things like that, but we're always

[20:45] learning more information. And uh last

[20:48] night I attended Sean let me know that

[20:52] Spanish Fork was talking about uh a data

[20:56] center and things like that. So I went

[20:57] to their council meeting last night. Let

[21:00] me pause and just say as I was leaving

[21:03] at 10:30

[21:05] last night and they were going into

[21:08] close session, I was very grateful for

[21:11] each of you. So, thank you. Um,

[21:17] but anyway, uh, there is a company

[21:20] called Valition. Uh, they made a

[21:23] presentation last night at Spanish Fork

[21:25] City Council. Um I would encourage

[21:28] everybody to watch that presentation.

[21:30] It's available on their YouTube page. Um

[21:33] it was informative. Uh technology is is

[21:38] ever advancing and so I think it's

[21:40] important for all of us to be aware of

[21:42] that advancing technology and how it

[21:44] changes. Um

[21:47] again it was very educational to me. Uh

[21:49] lots of things to study. Uh but one

[21:53] thing that I thought would be important

[21:54] for all of you, all of our residents,

[21:57] everybody, uh the Valition company will

[22:00] be holding a 3-day openhouse. Uh that's

[22:05] going to be next week. Uh where you can

[22:09] go, they'll answer questions. They'll

[22:11] have additional presentation. That's

[22:13] going to be at the Spanish Fork Library

[22:15] building uh in the Heritage Room. Uh

[22:19] it's Thursday, August 13th. uh from 6:00

[22:22] to 8:30 p.m. And then Friday, August

[22:26] 14th from 2 to 4:30 p.m. Uh but all of

[22:30] you should be at Sam's Supper. Uh and

[22:32] then Saturday, August 15th from 10:00

[22:35] a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Uh again,

[22:39] justformational

[22:40] if anybody wants to attend, learn more

[22:42] about that. I know that it's something

[22:44] that constantly comes up. One reason

[22:46] that I was there last night is because

[22:48] uh it's a different city, but we're all

[22:49] connected with our power. And so I

[22:51] wanted to understand that. Um especially

[22:54] because they made the statement that

[22:56] this will be an completely off-grid

[22:58] facility. So that that's interesting

[23:01] too. So I would just encourage anybody

[23:03] that has questions about that, reach out

[23:06] uh attend one of those and watch the

[23:10] presentation that they made. It was

[23:11] really really helpful. So thank you.

[23:15] Robert.

[23:18] Any other staff?

[23:21] Okay. Oh, come on up, Sean.

[23:27] I haven't done this in a long time. Um,

[23:29] we've finished the plant almost. So,

[23:32] we're we're running start running August

[23:35] 1st on Saturday and running for real.

[23:40] got through all that troubleshooting and

[23:41] stuff for two months and so we still got

[23:44] a little bit to polish up. We don't want

[23:46] to have an open house yet, but it's

[23:48] pretty cool. Two and a half years work.

[23:51] So, um, and

[23:55] the other thing, yeah, be aware that

[23:57] they they use natural gas with even

[23:59] though they aren't hooked to the grid,

[24:01] electrical grid, they are hooked to your

[24:03] natural gas grid. So, there's a lot of

[24:06] demand there. So, just be aware affects

[24:09] us. But anyway,

[24:13] >> thank you, Sh.

[24:16] >> Mayor, uh, Donna has her hand raised.

[24:18] >> Donna.

[24:19] >> Yeah.

[24:19] >> Hi, guys. Um, I just wanted to get on

[24:22] and tell you that we had a friends and

[24:25] family night on Monday night that um,

[24:27] Molly ran and we had over 400 people

[24:29] there. They had snow cones and the

[24:32] police. We appreciate them shutting off

[24:34] um Main Street and we appreciate the

[24:36] businesses that that let us have that.

[24:39] was really fun and we had a really

[24:41] great turnout and a lot of fun. I just

[24:43] wanted you guys to know that that was

[24:44] kind of one of the end of our summer

[24:46] reading parties and they're doing a teen

[24:48] and tween night at the pool. Thanks

[24:50] Carl. And um that's on the 14th and then

[24:55] we kind of wrap up our summer reading.

[24:57] So it's been a really we had over a

[24:59] thousand people participate in the

[25:00] summer reading program. It's been a

[25:02] great summer. So, we're just getting

[25:04] ready to shift into fall. So, thanks for

[25:06] all your support so we can do so many

[25:08] great fun things.

[25:11] >> Donna, thank you for all you do. So, we

[25:13] appreciate very much.

[25:17] » Okay. Any any other staff?

[25:21] Not seeing any. We will transition to

[25:23] council report starting with council

[25:25] Smith.

[25:27] >> Okay. Um,

[25:30] I get to talk about a lot. I'm going to

[25:32] talk about a lot of our amazing

[25:34] resources that we have. Um, in the last

[25:37] couple weeks and my family and I, we've

[25:39] utilized a lot of our greatness of PAC.

[25:43] Um, we did go to Spring Lake and went

[25:45] fishing the other day. And I was curious

[25:47] though how often we're checking the

[25:50] garbages there. There were overflowing

[25:53] and beer cans everywhere. Okay.

[25:58] So, if we go out there, should we

[26:00] just contact someone? Like it was Okay.

[26:07] >> Okay.

[26:10] >> I know. I know. And so,

[26:13] >> people just take their stuff over their

[26:16] >> No. Yeah. it. Well, and then also I was

[26:19] wondering if we could if it was maybe in

[26:21] the budget um to restain the picnic

[26:24] tables out there

[26:27] if those are ours because if you you

[26:29] kind of get slivers

[26:32] >> we're trying to switch over to

[26:37] the budget each year we put

[26:44] » I just didn't know exactly. I think a

[26:46] lot of people also like a lot of people

[26:47] don't understand that PAC owns that and

[26:51] um anyway but and the fish cops were out

[26:54] while we were there. So we didn't catch

[26:56] anything but we fed a lot of oats to the

[26:59] ducks. So yeah. Um and then we I just

[27:02] want to say I love our pool. We were at

[27:04] the pool last week and just such a great

[27:08] pool. Um, and then we spent a whole week

[27:11] up at PAC Lakes and that was amazing.

[27:14] And I got a better tan than ever. And then the last shout out is um the

[27:20] national night out last night. Um

[27:24] it's it's my little boy's favorite night

[27:27] of the year. Uh we went a little early

[27:29] cuz he had his first soccer game and he

[27:32] got to meet both the canines and he just

[27:36] thought it was the coolest thing in the

[27:37] world. And then we finished his game and

[27:38] he said, "Do you think they're still

[27:40] there?" And I said, "Well, it was over

[27:42] 15 minutes ago, but we can go see." And

[27:44] sure enough, and we closed it down. We

[27:46] left after the police left. So, um, it's

[27:50] the most amazing thing ever. And I, you

[27:52] know, the even the firefighters and uh,

[27:57] but the only thing is I guess next year

[27:58] you guys need to order more badges,

[28:00] Brad, cuz he was pretty upset that

[28:04] I know you guys. It was great. So,

[28:06] anyway, way to go. That's all.

[28:10] » Yeah, Chief Bishop, thank you for that

[28:12] wonderful night last night. National

[28:13] Night Out was a huge success. I loved it

[28:15] being in the park. Thought it was a good

[28:16] turnout and we even got to see the Life

[28:18] Flight helicopter land and take off and

[28:20] the fire trucks and most importantly the

[28:22] police department and and thank you for

[28:24] putting that on. That was a good

[28:26] success. Good community policing night.

[28:28] I did want to uh Jill, as we continue to

[28:31] do the code rewrite, I think it'd be

[28:34] wise if we did put in there something

[28:36] about data centers and zoning that puts

[28:38] us in the driver's seat. I know I've

[28:39] asked about that before, but just adding

[28:41] an extra layer of scrutiny upon data

[28:44] centers that that provides us additional

[28:47] uh timeline and additional approval at

[28:49] the legislative level uh before they can

[28:52] just be allowed to come in in a certain

[28:53] zone. So, I'd like to see that in our in

[28:55] our ordinances moving forward just to

[28:57] protect us. There's a lot of dis uh

[28:59] misinformation about data centers on

[29:01] both sides. I think it's important. We

[29:03] owe it to the residents and and the data

[29:05] center companies. We need to slow down

[29:07] the the timeline for them and really

[29:09] allow uh time for adequate public

[29:11] comment and then also allow extra

[29:14] approval level at the city council and

[29:16] mayor level. I think

[29:18] that's all I have.

[29:21] >> Hey, Council Moss.

[29:23] Um, I don't have much to say, but I

[29:25] agree with Ryan on the data center

[29:27] stuff. Um, and just want to thank all

[29:29] our staff and employees

[29:32] u for all that they do. And I really

[29:34] don't have anything else today. Thanks.

[29:37] >> Hey, Bob.

[29:39] >> I would do I would do the same shout out

[29:42] to the police last night. I was not able

[29:45] to be there, but everybody I talked to

[29:47] today at Ace Hardware had a ball. It was

[29:51] great. So, thank you. We've just got so

[29:53] many cute things that Pacin City does

[29:56] that just makes us home, makes us

[29:58] hometown. Uh,

[30:02] shout out to the I think the water

[30:04] department that's been cutting the

[30:06] valves in and putting the new water shut

[30:09] offs down first and second south and

[30:12] through that area. They are are very

[30:16] prompt got in, dug big holes in the

[30:17] street. Tonight they're all filled back

[30:20] up and ready for asphalt and they've

[30:22] just

[30:22] >> right in front of my house.

[30:23] >> Yeah. Is there one in front of your

[30:25] house too?

[30:25] >> Yeah, just to the

[30:26] >> Yeah, I think they just tell them how

[30:29] much appreciate that and leave holes

[30:31] open and it just looks cleaned up and

[30:33] nice. Uh and then I did do my due

[30:36] diligence. Uh I know we need to have

[30:38] this conversation. I'll make it as quick

[30:40] as I can concerning kilts for the

[30:43] Scottish festival.

[30:45] Uh what precipitated this is Doug Welton

[30:49] started uh the conversation that we've

[30:52] had for several years about Pacin City

[30:54] having their own tartan uh their own

[30:57] color their own kilts and this dates

[31:00] clear back to the early late 80s I

[31:03] believe mayor when we used to have the spring kaye when it was here at the

[31:09] banquet hall and we would eat haggus and

[31:12] kind of get us everybody excited for the Scottish festival that was to come

[31:18] and the tartans and things that were

[31:20] presented at that time and the

[31:21] conversation has continued. So, uh, Doug

[31:25] done some research straight to Scotland

[31:28] on getting tartan. The material that he

[31:30] was quoted was quite expensive, about

[31:33] $70 a yard. Um, and and a kilt with the

[31:38] pleat and the correct way to build a

[31:40] kilt takes about nine yards. So you can

[31:43] do the math. And then to have them a

[31:47] proper kilt has to it cannot have a

[31:49] machine a sewing machine put to it. It

[31:53] has to be all handstitched.

[31:55] And that takes uh about 42 hours for a

[32:00] seamstress. And there's only a handful

[32:02] in the state of Utah that make them. And

[32:06] we happen to have one right here in PAC.

[32:09] And so I contacted her. She's reaching

[32:12] out to several of the clans in Salt Lake

[32:15] and that that have ladies that make

[32:18] them. She said to plan on it would be

[32:20] roughly around $400 a kilt for the the

[32:24] seamstress part of it.

[32:27] So if I was to give you my best. So then

[32:30] I reached out to Bill Morris of Morris

[32:33] Quilting and he is very well steeped in tartan material and what have you and

[32:39] he's going to present us three or four

[32:40] options. Uh if we have our own made,

[32:45] Doug was right. It's going to be about

[32:46] $60 a yard uh to have one that we can

[32:50] claim as Pacin City uh that nobody else

[32:53] can duplicate if we buy

[32:57] uh material. I don't want this to be

[32:59] lengthy, but I'm trying to give you all

[33:00] the information I can. If we buy

[33:02] material that has been created that is

[33:05] unassigned, in other words,

[33:07] manufacturers over there make tartan

[33:09] material waiting for somebody to buy it

[33:12] and sometimes it goes for quite a while

[33:14] uh without a clan that accepts it and

[33:17] says that's ours. And so we can get that

[33:20] at a little bit of a discounted price

[33:22] and it becomes PAC city uh tartan

[33:26] without having to give the commission to

[33:28] have it made and pay that upfront cost.

[33:31] Uh we're still looking at and so I think

[33:34] the the best thing that I could present

[33:36] to you is it's going to be about $1,000

[33:38] a kilt for the material and and the

[33:40] seamstress to put them together. And

[33:44] we've discussed uh and counseledled wide

[33:47] open for discussion. And I've just kind

[33:49] of taken the lead on this. We're we're

[33:52] thinking of 15 kilts that we would want.

[33:55] We would need the six for the council.

[33:58] We would need three for the royalty,

[34:00] three to four for the police officers.

[34:02] That would be uh security during that period of time. And then that would

[34:09] leave two for the for the administration

[34:12] or staff. That would be the 15th.

[34:17] So, I put the information to you when I

[34:19] get uh exact price quotes back on tartan

[34:23] material. I'll come back with you at

[34:25] that, but that's a discussion that we

[34:27] can have at a later date. Uh if we

[34:30] started now, we would be pushing to have

[34:33] them ready for next year

[34:36] knowing that. So, she said if I can get

[34:38] five women to do three, we could have

[34:41] them done in May. If I got three women

[34:44] to do five, we would be really hurrying

[34:47] to to get them ready for July.

[34:52] So, that's the information I have on the

[34:53] tartan and the the kilts. Thank you for

[34:56] the information. It's something we can

[34:57] need to work on.

[35:00] Okay,

[35:02] we'll go ahead and move on to uh

[35:06] e action items. This one will will be

[35:08] mine. uh appointment of planning

[35:11] commissioner uh Rick Johnson. That would

[35:13] be my nomination. And give you a little

[35:15] background. Ryan and I both sat on the

[35:18] uh

[35:20] interview board for planning commission.

[35:23] Uh Rick was very very good. We were

[35:26] hoping we could have a place for him and

[35:28] as it turns out we do. Now he was uh put

[35:31] on the uh board of review. Uh so we'll

[35:34] have to replace him on the board of

[35:36] review. But uh I would submit to the the

[35:40] council that uh we accept that they

[35:42] accept Rick Johnson as appointment of

[35:45] planning commissioner. Uh he was not

[35:48] able to be here tonight. So we'll

[35:49] arrange if in fact the the council

[35:52] adopts this to have his him swore in the

[35:56] office a little later. Mayor, any

[35:59] >> discussions? Is that the Rick that lives

[36:01] just right across the street?

[36:02] >> Yes. Okay.

[36:03] Yeah, there you go. Right across the

[36:05] street. He's he's been well known. He

[36:07] worked at Mountain View Hospital for

[36:09] decades and very capable individual. I

[36:12] was very impressed. I believe not

[36:14] speaking for you, but I believe you were

[36:16] as well. So,

[36:17] >> absolutely.

[36:18] >> So, I would submit his name, Rick

[36:19] Johnson.

[36:20] >> Mayor, I make the motion that we approve

[36:22] the appointment of planning commissioner

[36:24] Rick Johnson to the PAC city planning

[36:25] commission.

[36:26] >> I'll second that.

[36:27] >> Okay, we have a motion been seconded.

[36:30] Broka vote starting with council

[36:31] provoscard. Yes, council.

[36:34] >> Yes. Council

[36:34] >> Roley.

[36:35] >> Yes.

[36:36] >> Thank you. Motion carries. Appreciate

[36:38] it.

[36:40] >> Okay. Moving on to number two.

[36:43] Resolution

[36:44] uh approving the amend uh memorandum of

[36:48] understanding between PAC and Sanquin

[36:50] Chamber of Commerce and and PC city.

[36:55] >> Hey, mayor council. We uh been meeting

[36:57] with the chamber. Um, we believe we've

[37:01] come up with a a a better contract than

[37:03] we've had. One of the things that we did here is u split out. There's

[37:08] a separate contract now with Santa Quinn

[37:10] City in their chamber and there's a

[37:11] separate one with paste in the chamber.

[37:13] Uh, couple of the highlights that we did

[37:17] u that we added into this. Um, they

[37:20] they've started a a uh oh, what's the

[37:24] name of it?

[37:26] U farmers farmers market. uh over in

[37:29] Santa Quinn and and so we're going to

[37:31] start that here as well and uh it's been

[37:35] successful there. It took a few years to

[37:36] get going. But uh that's one of the

[37:39] things we wanted to have them support a

[37:42] hometown Pac hometown market um to help

[37:46] uh

[37:48] help with those activities in in PAC as

[37:51] well. Um there are several things they

[37:53] need to report on. we they give welcome

[37:56] bags for the new people that move in. So

[37:58] there's um the the the intent of the

[38:02] agreement and it's taken a long time and

[38:04] it's it's been this way for a long time

[38:06] is they want to become self-sufficient

[38:07] but but they do utilize our our contract

[38:11] money to help uh fund the the chamber as

[38:15] well as the other members. Um

[38:19] they have raised the the the fee for

[38:22] Santa Quinn because they're they're

[38:23] growing. Uh it's it's more in line with

[38:26] what it's smaller than ours, but it's closer

[38:30] >> not 5050 still as far as the split

[38:34] between us and Sanquin the cost.

[38:37] >> No, before we would pay 12,000 annually

[38:41] they would pay six. So, it's and now

[38:43] they're up to about 9 8,500

[38:46] uh based on population and and we wanted

[38:48] to make sure they were we also have a

[38:51] shop local campaign that we want them to

[38:53] push to help uh help the local

[38:56] businesses here. So, uh I think it's a I

[38:59] think it's a better contract than we've

[39:00] had and we feel good about it. We wanted

[39:02] to present to the council and uh we'd

[39:05] ask that you uh consider adopting that.

[39:08] >> Um I had a couple questions.

[39:10] >> Yeah. Um, in the in it in section 4, it

[39:14] mentioned partnership fee and membership

[39:17] fee. Are they the same thing or are they

[39:20] separate? Cuz if they were the same,

[39:21] it's just confusing to have two

[39:23] different names. It was section four.

[39:27] Yeah. Um, one, three, and four. I think

[39:31] se like section one and then Yeah, I

[39:35] think it's one, three, and four. So it

[39:37] says like both partnership and

[39:39] membership fee.

[39:40] >> Uh it's supposed to be the same thing.

[39:42] So

[39:42] >> okay,

[39:43] >> if in a motion you you directed us to

[39:46] make this should be the same. They they do in the hometown market.

[39:50] >> Uh they may ask us to do some other

[39:52] advertising and stuff like they San

[39:54] Quinn has to they step up more than what

[39:55] that

[39:56] >> okay

[39:56] >> fee is to help. Uh and so there there

[39:59] may be that but yeah it should be the

[40:00] same.

[40:01] >> Okay. And then in section four um one I

[40:05] or one anyway I think we've forgotten S.

[40:09] I know it sounds silly but since it's

[40:11] going to be an actual document I just

[40:13] thought that because it says it says in

[40:15] there the city agree instead of the city

[40:17] agrees.

[40:18] >> Oh yeah I can see it.

[40:19] >> Yeah. And then

[40:22] >> well so it just so everything else says

[40:24] the city agrees

[40:27] but no it's just supposed to be city

[40:28] because it's just ours. And so and then

[40:32] um I think in it it states that if they cancel they refund us but if we

[40:40] cancel it doesn't say that we get a

[40:43] refund. I just was curious.

[40:45] >> I think if it's canceled there's a pro

[40:48] there.

[40:48] >> Okay. I think like I guess I was just

[40:50] making sure that it's equal for both

[40:51] ways. So that was all. But other than

[40:54] that I thought it was great and they do

[40:56] great for us. I mean, I don't foresee us

[40:59] cancelling, but I just to protect us as

[41:02] well.

[41:04] >> Any other discussion, council?

[41:07] Okay, I'm ready for uh Do we need a

[41:10] motion here, Dave?

[41:12] >> Yes.

[41:13] >> Resol.

[41:13] >> There's a resolution. Mayor, I I motion

[41:16] that we approve the memorandum of

[41:18] understanding between the PAC and

[41:19] Sanquin Chamber of Commerce and Pacin

[41:21] City with the aforementioned issues

[41:25] discussed by Council Smith.

[41:29] >> Is there a second? Okay, we have a

[41:31] motion been seconded. Roll call vote

[41:34] starting with council Smith.

[41:35] >> Yes.

[41:35] >> Council Roelly,

[41:36] >> yes.

[41:37] >> Council Nos,

[41:38] >> yes.

[41:38] >> Council Povskart,

[41:39] >> yes.

[41:39] >> Okay, motion carries. Thank you.

[41:42] >> Moving on to F. Apologize council res.

[41:45] I'm going to briefly excuse myself.

[41:49] » Okay,

[41:51] we'll go into a work session. We'll stay

[41:54] right here. Anders, would you introduce

[41:57] Chris to us?

[42:06] » Good evening, uh, council members and,

[42:08] um, we also have some members of our

[42:10] planning commission here as well. Um so

[42:15] uh this item is not an action item. Um

[42:18] we're just giving a presentation on our

[42:21] progress with the PAC and Parkway um

[42:23] small area plan. So there isn't any

[42:25] proposed motion for the item. But um

[42:28] with the coming of the um PAC Parkway

[42:32] interchange um the the reason for this

[42:36] plan was to kind of be proactive in in

[42:38] planning for um anticipated growth in

[42:41] that area. Um and so this this plan was put together um to kind of take

[42:48] advantage of some opportunities with

[42:50] that. Um there's a about a over a

[42:54] thousand acres um of area in this in

[42:57] this planning area. Um mostly vacant

[42:59] property and owned by a handful of

[43:01] property owners. And so there's there's

[43:04] a great opportunity there for um for the

[43:07] city to to plan for the future,

[43:11] something that will have a a pretty big

[43:12] impact on the future of our city. Um and

[43:16] so the the idea with this plan is it's

[43:18] would be adopted as an amendment to the

[43:20] general plan. So providing kind of

[43:22] guidance and and direction kind of

[43:25] setting priorities and goals for um the

[43:28] area for land use and transportation and

[43:31] infrastructure needs and um open space

[43:33] and trails and parks. Um and so the the

[43:37] process that's gone into to creating

[43:40] this plan so far um we've worked with uh

[43:43] Chris Hup with Somos to um put this plan

[43:47] together. Uh the process has included

[43:49] multiple um cheretses and work sessions

[43:52] with the city council and the planning

[43:54] commission as well um to kind of get us

[43:56] to this point. It kind of started with

[43:59] um some ideas and concepts and over time

[44:01] those have been refined to to where

[44:03] we're at today.

[44:04] um and and we feel like the plan is is

[44:07] at the point where it's ready for

[44:09] adoption into the general plan. And so

[44:12] before we kind of go through that formal

[44:14] process of um having that starts with a public hearing with the planning

[44:20] commission um to to propose adoption to

[44:23] the plan. We wanted to just give this

[44:25] presentation to kind of introduce the final plan and and kind of summarize

[44:30] the content some of the content that's

[44:32] in that final document.

[44:34] Um

[44:36] and

[44:37] um with that, I just wanted to make sure

[44:40] to uh invite any member of the public,

[44:44] the planning commission, city council,

[44:46] um as we anticipate that we'll we'll be

[44:49] um releasing the the plan to the public,

[44:52] and then sending that to each of you to

[44:54] review. As you're reviewing that, and

[44:56] you have any questions, please come to

[44:58] us and and feel free to ask us any

[45:00] questions you have. feel free to come in

[45:02] to our offices, email, call us, and

[45:05] we're more than happy to spend as much

[45:06] time as as you'd like to kind of go over

[45:08] the details of dig into the details of

[45:11] the plan um and and how we anticipate um

[45:16] implementing the the plan in the near

[45:17] future here as we as we expect um kind

[45:21] of the first stages of development

[45:23] requests for this area. So, with that,

[45:25] I'll kind of give the podium over to to

[45:28] Chris Hub um for this presentation.

[45:41] Okay. So, we've chatted a few times um

[45:45] from our previous discussion that we

[45:48] had. We we went heavily over the the

[45:50] process that we've taken the vision that

[45:53] was established out of this. I won't

[45:55] touch as much on that today. we've gone

[45:57] over it a few times and we've been

[46:00] meeting together fairly regularly to

[46:03] bring us all along in this process. And

[46:05] so with that, this is as he was just

[46:08] mentioning a little bit of the

[46:10] background um some of the chapters that

[46:12] come out of this plan. If you have

[46:14] questions, feel free to to ask. Uh I

[46:17] don't I don't mind being interrupted if you have something pressing that you

[46:21] want to ask. That said, as we all know,

[46:25] as we've been going through this,

[46:26] talking a little bit on on that vision,

[46:29] this is approximately a,046 acres,

[46:33] fairly large undeveloped land between

[46:36] I-15 and 198

[46:39] between the the city boundary and some

[46:41] of the existing development on the east

[46:43] side and and

[46:45] the downtown and uh

[46:49] core of the city. So as we've gone

[46:51] through this process,

[46:53] one of the one of the things that we

[46:55] first looked at was the general plan to

[46:57] understand what's the projection here.

[46:59] What's what's happening? And there are

[47:02] some pretty substantial numbers in that

[47:05] 38,000

[47:07] people as far as growth is concerned.

[47:09] That's a that's a big chunk.

[47:13] Obviously, this area and the station

[47:15] area on the other side of I-15 is

[47:17] intended to take a significant portion

[47:19] of that, if not the m vast majority of

[47:21] that. That said, 23,000 job creation

[47:25] over 30 years. This this area won't take

[47:29] the brunt of that uh necessarily. It

[47:31] will take a significant portion of that.

[47:34] But we took all those things into

[47:36] consideration. How do we actually help

[47:38] maintain and manage that growth that is

[47:41] anticipated to happen from that general

[47:42] plan in a way that does not negatively

[47:46] impact the city, its current residents,

[47:49] and the the levels of service that that

[47:52] we offer here, the quality of life. We

[47:55] want to enhance that and and expand it

[47:57] and and maintain, if not elevate that as

[48:01] we continue to work through these

[48:02] things. So with that said,

[48:06] the one one thing that I do want to

[48:09] mention out of this is there has been

[48:11] the threat of the 181 acres of

[48:15] commercial land in this. Is that

[48:17] sufficient? Is that too much? We wanted

[48:20] to

[48:22] dig into the numbers a little bit and I'll do that on a future slide, but

[48:25] just to touch base here, we're

[48:27] anticipating approximately 155,500

[48:32] residents in this thousand acre area.

[48:35] That's if you're doing numbers, we have

[48:39] approximately 3.6 residents. And you can

[48:42] do math from there and say, "Okay, we're

[48:46] typical buildout as as to what the rest

[48:48] of PAC is." It's a little bit less than

[48:50] some of the more concentrated areas and

[48:53] we're in intensifying the amount of open

[48:56] space that we want to integrate through

[48:58] this as we've discussed with the vision.

[49:00] So with that said, just we'll dig into

[49:02] that number in a little bit.

[49:05] How do we get here? Well, you you've

[49:07] been involved in most of that process.

[49:09] So, uh, it has been a little while since

[49:12] we've talked through some of these

[49:14] things, but we started out with existing

[49:15] conditions and stakeholder interviews

[49:17] where we met with, um,

[49:20] believe it was around two and a half

[49:23] dozen individuals, uh, property owners,

[49:26] council, planning commission, other

[49:28] individuals just to get sort of a sense

[49:30] of

[49:32] what is the vision here? What are we

[49:33] trying to accomplish with this area?

[49:35] What's the purpose of this?

[49:38] and how can it elevate and accentuate

[49:41] the city. So, we got that background. We

[49:44] established the understanding of

[49:48] um what's happening in the downtown,

[49:50] what they're planning and the station

[49:52] area, what Salem is looking to and how

[49:56] do we capture this with the the updated

[49:58] U dot road coming through this this

[50:00] property. Then we jumped into concept

[50:03] development with you all. We went

[50:05] through that established concepts.

[50:07] Obviously, some council individuals were

[50:10] uh wanting their concept to take

[50:12] precedent over others and and the good

[50:14] thing is all three groups had that sort

[50:17] of idea because of the passion you have

[50:20] for your city, which is great. And we've

[50:22] incorporated those pieces as we've

[50:24] continued to refine that concept. Um, we

[50:27] work through that with the council, with

[50:29] the planning commission and staff to

[50:30] sharpen those land uses, refine those

[50:33] and and we'll touch on that in in slides

[50:35] to come as well. And then we created

[50:38] this document that supports that vision,

[50:40] supports the concept, and supports that

[50:43] growth and

[50:46] promise that the city has for its

[50:47] residents.

[50:50] Five of the top goals that came from

[50:52] this visioning and priorities uh

[50:55] strategy as we've gone through this

[50:56] process was first to establish a

[50:58] distinctive destination um quality

[51:01] commercial corridor specifically along

[51:04] the PAC Parkway that's that's being

[51:06] introduced here. Regional commercial up

[51:08] against I-15 and neighborhood commercial

[51:10] against SR 198.

[51:13] The

[51:15] general feel was we have that adventure

[51:18] theme here. How can we integrate that?

[51:21] We don't want strip mall. We want

[51:22] something that's cohesive, that's nice,

[51:24] that elevates that commercial, that adds

[51:27] a little bit of experience there and and

[51:30] creates a a place.

[51:32] That was the number one thing. The

[51:34] second is diverse market responsive

[51:36] residential

[51:38] homes. And those are detached product.

[51:41] Uh a fairly wide range of detached

[51:44] product and some attached product as

[51:46] well. The intent of this area is not to

[51:49] be not to to accommodate the moderate

[51:53] income housing. It's not to accommodate

[51:55] the state's need or or desires that

[51:59] they've been pushing forward. This area

[52:01] is is lower intensity. It's meant as a

[52:04] place to

[52:07] experience the open space, to experience

[52:09] the adventure, to experience the

[52:11] commercial and and have all these things

[52:12] integrated and blended together in a way

[52:14] that creates a a great place that again

[52:20] builds on on the the legacy the city has

[52:23] had or continues to have. The third

[52:26] piece was build that connected

[52:27] multimotal trail network. And you'll see

[52:29] that as we go through some of these

[52:31] plans.

[52:32] We wanted that to to come to every

[52:36] possible

[52:38] node that we could get it to. Blend it

[52:42] through the trails, blend it through the

[52:44] wetlands, blend it through the open

[52:45] space, and make that backbone that each

[52:48] resident can actually feed to and and

[52:51] again supports existing trails within

[52:53] the city significantly wide path so that

[52:56] you can jog, bike, run, whatever it may

[52:59] be.

[53:01] open those opportunities for residents

[53:03] to have those recreation opportunities

[53:06] enhanced and and developed. In addition

[53:09] to that, we wanted to, as we sort of

[53:12] already mentioned already, establish a

[53:14] regionally significant open space,

[53:18] a a regional park

[53:21] established somewhere in this location.

[53:22] We don't show exactly where that can

[53:25] happen because there's a lot of

[53:26] opportunity and we don't want to tie it

[53:29] in to a specific parcel and then they

[53:32] raise your price. That's not at all what

[53:34] we want to do. We want to be

[53:35] opportunistic with that and make sure

[53:36] that whatever that regional park is, it

[53:39] makes sense for the city and that

[53:41] development group and elevates the city

[53:45] in addition to that and and heightens

[53:47] that opportunity for the residents. And

[53:50] then the last piece is that home to

[53:51] adventure as I've I've been addressing

[53:55] that is a significant identity with PAC

[53:57] and that was one of the first things

[53:59] that we picked up on and wanted to

[54:01] establish as part of that vision from

[54:03] the planning commission and and council

[54:05] that we were talking through. There's a

[54:07] lot of great things here. How do we tie

[54:09] that adventure? How do we tie that

[54:11] history together here?

[54:13] That said, we we jumped in from all that

[54:16] to this land use framework and you'll

[54:18] see several categories. In our last

[54:19] meeting, we talked about differentiating

[54:22] the detached and attached residential so

[54:24] that we can give gradients, greater

[54:28] gradients to how that actually feels,

[54:30] where those uh intensities fall. And

[54:35] this was the the plan that we worked

[54:37] through to establish that greater uh

[54:40] detail of of the land uses in the plan.

[54:43] It also associates for example you'll

[54:45] see the traditional detached that one

[54:48] specifically has zones of fix to it. So

[54:51] you can understand here's my range and

[54:53] the reason we do a range is because

[54:57] no one ever can anticipate a a 2020

[55:00] happening again. We never know what's

[55:02] going to happen. And so we want to give

[55:03] you the a greater amount of flexibility

[55:06] to make real time decisions when

[55:08] somebody comes in with a plan saying

[55:10] this is what we want to accomplish. You

[55:12] have opportunity to say well if you base

[55:15] it off of the status quo this is the

[55:18] zone that probably is best fit for you.

[55:21] And we have supportive criteria and

[55:23] content in the document as well. And

[55:26] same with the rest of those as well. Uh

[55:28] we've also differentiated the the

[55:30] neighborhood attached and regional

[55:32] attached. Regional being a little bit

[55:35] more intense around the the regional

[55:37] core and lesser intensity down on the

[55:40] south side around 198 with the least

[55:43] densities in the middle of this

[55:44] community significantly less than um

[55:49] surrounding areas.

[55:51] We also differentiated between the

[55:53] regional commercial up against I-15 and

[55:56] a neighborhood node which is supportive

[55:58] of

[56:00] grosser and and typical services whereas

[56:03] the other one would be more of a

[56:04] regional draw. It is close to a 50/50

[56:09] split between that commercial breakdown.

[56:10] Again going back to that 181 it's almost

[56:13] a 5050 split. There is a little bit more

[56:16] weight on the regional commercial and I

[56:17] know that's a big play as we were

[56:19] working on the downtown

[56:22] core of that. There is the existing

[56:24] Parish RV and we wanted to

[56:28] expand that area so that that regional

[56:30] draw is connected and helps actually

[56:34] draw people to it. With that being said,

[56:38] again, the anticipation for this east

[56:41] side from the general plan was 38,000

[56:43] residents. If you look at the larger

[56:45] area, the

[56:47] essentially large swath of land from

[56:51] Benjamin um continuing down the PAC

[56:54] Parkway,

[56:56] there are lots of individuals that could

[57:00] potentially congregate at this regional

[57:03] draw. And that's why our number is 181.

[57:07] As we looked at that regional draw and

[57:09] the support of nature that this

[57:11] commercial area could maintain and and help, that's the number that we felt

[57:17] fairly confident. It is conservative

[57:20] just to make sure that we can build that

[57:22] and have it vibrant. Um we don't want to

[57:25] overdo commercial because when you

[57:26] overdo commercial, it's just vacant and

[57:28] that does no good for anyone. So, we

[57:30] want to make sure that it is vibrant and

[57:32] that it is attractive.

[57:35] As we continue to go through this, we we

[57:37] talked a little bit about that spectrum

[57:39] of housing as far as detached the

[57:41] traditional homes, 6 to 10,000 square

[57:44] foot lots, cottages, garden cottages,

[57:46] which are fronting onto a green um

[57:49] ramblers and and downsizing housing. So,

[57:52] if I've got a 10K and I want to get

[57:54] something a little bit more for a later

[57:58] stage of life, those types of products

[58:00] are available,

[58:02] including smaller lots for first-time

[58:04] home buyers or um younger families to to

[58:09] be able to grow into, especially given

[58:11] the cost of housing in our current

[58:13] market. It's uh significantly grown over

[58:16] the last few years. mixed takes some of

[58:20] those detached on the the lower scale,

[58:22] so cottages and and so on. And then it

[58:25] takes some of the uh larger attached

[58:29] products and mixes those together so

[58:31] that there's a blend between the

[58:33] detached and attached and and you get

[58:35] more of a transition as opposed to

[58:37] here's one, here's another, there's no

[58:39] blending. They're very different. What

[58:42] that also does, as we've talked about

[58:44] this, is it establishes more complete

[58:47] neighborhoods where you can actually

[58:49] live in the same neighborhood, grow in

[58:50] the same neighborhood, and and age

[58:53] essentially in place. And so, we've

[58:55] established some of those mixed

[58:57] opportunities to allow that to happen.

[59:02] As previously mentioned, wetlands, the

[59:04] open space was intended uh from the

[59:08] feedback that we received to be the

[59:10] heart of this community. There's

[59:12] approximately 116 acres of um

[59:18] non and I'm going to say this out loud,

[59:21] nondelineated wetlands. As we've looked

[59:23] at this, we've sort of mapped where

[59:25] water's going. Some of these are

[59:27] irrigation ponds that you close off the

[59:29] irrigation and it goes away. Some of

[59:31] these are springs and things that of

[59:34] that nature. And so there's legitimacy

[59:36] to some of those areas. These are not

[59:39] mapped. Um, so I want to make sure that is clear. As delineations occur,

[59:45] there can be adjustments to the way that

[59:47] the open space will work, but

[59:48] nevertheless, the the thematic piece of

[59:51] this is that they do integrate and blend

[59:53] and that the residential units front

[59:55] onto these and integrate with these. So,

[59:57] it's a part of the community. As as we

[1:00:00] go through this using the numbers from

[1:00:03] the city, there's intended to be seven

[1:00:06] acres of parkland per thousand

[1:00:07] residents. Again, taking the rough

[1:00:09] estimate of 15,500 residents in this

[1:00:13] area. Do the math times the seven acres

[1:00:16] per thousand residents. And we're I put

[1:00:19] 110. It's actually 108.5, but rounding

[1:00:23] always round up when it comes to open

[1:00:25] space.

[1:00:27] So, we with with the intended open space

[1:00:31] network, we're significantly over that.

[1:00:34] And again, some of that is due to the

[1:00:37] need and and some of that is proper

[1:00:40] placement and neighborhood node

[1:00:42] commercial supportive residential

[1:00:45] supportive of these open spaces so that

[1:00:47] everyone has close proximity, close

[1:00:50] access to these recreational

[1:00:52] opportunities.

[1:00:55] Again, digging into the trail network,

[1:00:59] we wanted to make that one of the

[1:01:02] forefronted pieces as we heard the the

[1:01:04] feedback from the city elected

[1:01:07] officials, appointed officials, and

[1:01:09] staff. That was a big piece of of what

[1:01:11] needs to be a part of this community is

[1:01:14] this network that works for everyone,

[1:01:17] that blends everybody together, that

[1:01:19] brings the downtown, that brings the the

[1:01:23] station area, that brings this Pacin

[1:01:25] Parkway area all together, these

[1:01:28] networks that actually blend into the

[1:01:30] existing communities

[1:01:32] and bring everyone to to connect and to

[1:01:36] um coexist more naturally.

[1:01:40] walking, biking, built-in transit and

[1:01:43] wayfinding as UTA has service plans

[1:01:46] through this area. Obviously, UD do has

[1:01:48] the PAC Parkway and some of the trail

[1:01:52] supportive things that go along Pac

[1:01:54] Parkway. There's there's a lot that

[1:01:57] happened here and and with it going

[1:01:58] diagonally through the site

[1:02:01] and the rest of it being on a a standard

[1:02:03] north south grid, we had to get a little

[1:02:06] creative to keep that grid. It is

[1:02:08] angular but it it blends the existing on

[1:02:11] either side together so that it's not

[1:02:14] confusing as it go as as individual goes

[1:02:16] through that space.

[1:02:20] You can see a little bit more depth on

[1:02:21] that street and trail network as you

[1:02:23] look at these. It is a essentially a a a

[1:02:27] skewed grid so that we can connect in

[1:02:30] the existing grids and then pull them

[1:02:32] together so that those roads can sort of

[1:02:35] stay pretty substantial or or consistent

[1:02:38] as it as it runs through the city. In

[1:02:41] addition to that, you'll see a similar

[1:02:43] grid for the trail networks where we

[1:02:45] would establish on street trails and

[1:02:48] off- streetet trails to give people full

[1:02:50] opportunity to use those. And again,

[1:02:53] there's a a larger facility that runs

[1:02:56] along Pacin Parkway. You also note there

[1:02:59] are three

[1:03:02] um grade separated crossings, two across

[1:03:06] Pacin Parkway and then one under I-15.

[1:03:08] So you you currently have a Bamburger

[1:03:11] that goes under uh in in every document

[1:03:16] that we are showing in even in the

[1:03:18] adjacent documents. We wanted to make

[1:03:20] this a prominent piece so that

[1:03:24] UD do understands this is part of what

[1:03:27] we want. This is part of what is not

[1:03:29] just what we want but is necessary to

[1:03:31] make this function.

[1:03:34] If you don't allow people to get over to

[1:03:35] the transit

[1:03:38] that increases that congestion on the

[1:03:40] streets. Let's give them opportunities

[1:03:42] to actually be able to to

[1:03:44] correspond with what's on the north.

[1:03:46] There's the UVU campus and all those

[1:03:48] other pieces. Let's blend all that

[1:03:50] together and allow opportunity to to get

[1:03:52] into the downtown, to get into the

[1:03:54] station area, to get into this pacing

[1:03:56] parkway area, and make it so that it's a

[1:03:59] viable option to be on a bike or other

[1:04:02] mode outside of a vehicle.

[1:04:07] to the commercial point right now as far

[1:04:11] as the the leakage and and that's a a

[1:04:15] more

[1:04:17] difficult

[1:04:18] it's it's a term and and the explanation

[1:04:21] here is if you have a $100 in the city

[1:04:25] how much of that is leaking out to a

[1:04:26] different city. So if we had a 100

[1:04:28] million 46 is leaking out to a different

[1:04:32] city that is a substantial number

[1:04:37] and we wanted to make sure that we had

[1:04:40] this area significantly robust to be

[1:04:43] able to capture a significant portion of

[1:04:46] that potentially even getting to the

[1:04:48] point where you are not in a leakage

[1:04:51] state. you are in a a an extended

[1:04:54] capture rate where more of that capture

[1:04:56] is coming in above the 100%. Meaning

[1:04:59] you're capturing all of your residents

[1:05:02] uh the revenue that that could be and

[1:05:04] then bringing in and so that's why that

[1:05:07] regional draw. In addition to that, the

[1:05:09] existing square foot commercial

[1:05:12] estimated uh 554,000 to 760,000 square

[1:05:17] feet.

[1:05:19] I'm going to throw some numbers out

[1:05:20] there because I like numbers.

[1:05:23] If you

[1:05:25] uh divide that by a floor area ratio and that means how much building there

[1:05:30] is to an acre. If it's a one acre and we

[1:05:34] use 30% of it, 30% is a floor area

[1:05:38] ratio. So how much building is that? So

[1:05:41] estimating that

[1:05:43] the residents in this area alone will

[1:05:46] cover

[1:05:47] 50 to 60 of those acres of commercial by

[1:05:50] themselves. So that does leave

[1:05:53] 120 acres remaining. If you take into

[1:05:57] consideration the o the rest of the

[1:05:59] 38,000 residents, the majority of that

[1:06:02] number is already gone. That's

[1:06:03] approximately 122 acres of commercial

[1:06:06] that is supported in this area just by

[1:06:08] the growth that will happen over in that

[1:06:10] area. Now you start to take in regional

[1:06:13] capture which is something that you'll

[1:06:15] be able to do with the patient parkway

[1:06:17] and we're well within that that range or

[1:06:20] that realm of 181 acres. Hopefully that tracks and you guys can follow

[1:06:25] that. So if you do have any questions

[1:06:27] feel free to to let me know but but we wanted to be supportive. We wanted to

[1:06:32] help minimize that capture number and

[1:06:35] focus on some of the things that can

[1:06:37] bring some of that money back into to

[1:06:39] PACE and make sure that we support our

[1:06:42] own.

[1:06:45] So next steps is these implementation

[1:06:49] strategies and a little bit of the

[1:06:51] community service

[1:06:53] needs that will be required by this

[1:06:55] development as it grows. as as

[1:06:57] previously stated 110 acres given that

[1:07:01] 15,500

[1:07:03] uh for for parks. As far as schools are

[1:07:05] concerned, mathematically two elementary

[1:07:08] schools would be required. As we went

[1:07:10] through the modeling of this based on

[1:07:12] the residential types, the housing sizes

[1:07:17] and the types of housing like the

[1:07:20] typical we have this many kids in this

[1:07:23] household type and and some of those

[1:07:25] typical uh measures. In addition to

[1:07:28] that, there would be one middle school

[1:07:30] and we put one high school here, but

[1:07:32] it's actually 6. Rounding up goes to

[1:07:35] one. you can't have 6 of a high school

[1:07:38] doesn't work that well. Um so we do we

[1:07:41] do notate that as one but we dig into

[1:07:43] that a little bit more just so you can

[1:07:45] understand those numbers. In addition to

[1:07:47] that emergency services it was brought

[1:07:49] up early in the process that there is a

[1:07:53] desire

[1:07:55] for fire station within this this

[1:07:57] planning area. There was not uh there

[1:08:00] was not intended to be a need for a

[1:08:04] specific police station or additional

[1:08:06] police station, just added staffing as

[1:08:09] this area grows out. And then

[1:08:13] that fire station was

[1:08:16] potentially going to be along Arrowhead

[1:08:18] Trail or along the 198 for better access

[1:08:20] and and uh service area. In addition to

[1:08:24] that, we look at other community

[1:08:25] services like library, senior center,

[1:08:28] churches. Uh we've anticipated there to

[1:08:31] be approximately nine

[1:08:34] multi-denominational churches throughout

[1:08:36] this area. Just looking at the existing

[1:08:39] demographics of PAC and Utah County just

[1:08:41] to understand what what could be

[1:08:44] anticipated here and that those are the

[1:08:46] numbers that we've looked at. There is

[1:08:48] obviously the existing library, but as

[1:08:50] you continue to grow, additional

[1:08:52] libraries for other service areas would

[1:08:57] essentially be required as this this

[1:08:59] eastern area grows out, including

[1:09:00] service uh services for seniors and the

[1:09:04] potential for a community or rec center,

[1:09:06] which is already a topic that you are

[1:09:09] well aware of as as being a need as as

[1:09:12] the city continues to grow out. far as

[1:09:15] some of the implementation strategies

[1:09:18] ongoing coordination with UD do which is

[1:09:20] continuing to occur.

[1:09:22] One of the subconultants that we have

[1:09:24] been working with on this project is

[1:09:26] methods consulting who is also doing the

[1:09:28] PAC and parkway plan. So it's been great

[1:09:30] synergy to continue to push UD do get

[1:09:34] the access and other things that we

[1:09:35] really need to make this a great place

[1:09:37] for for PAC. In addition to that,

[1:09:40] there's uh the pursuit of some of the

[1:09:42] annexation of the key parcels. There's

[1:09:45] one larger swath that's not within the

[1:09:47] city yet that would help make that uh a

[1:09:52] connective link especially on the east

[1:09:54] west connectivity there. Infrastructure

[1:09:56] and utility extensions. Uh there's been

[1:10:00] another group that was working through

[1:10:01] the utilities. We've coordinated with

[1:10:03] that that is going to be showing in the

[1:10:06] plan a summation of essentially how the

[1:10:08] utilities were worked through here where

[1:10:10] the connection points general sizing and

[1:10:12] things of that nature and then generally

[1:10:15] to codify the development vision making

[1:10:19] sure that as that code update is

[1:10:21] happening that there are specific

[1:10:23] metrics in place that we can actually

[1:10:25] implement this plan that it can be built

[1:10:28] the way that you visioned the way that

[1:10:31] the city visioned.

[1:10:32] And then the last piece is that network

[1:10:34] and open space system encouraging and

[1:10:36] engaging land owners through those

[1:10:38] public private partnerships and through

[1:10:40] the code to establish those open space

[1:10:43] dimensions and and how it needs to be

[1:10:45] built through the the community.

[1:10:48] And with that that is uh that's

[1:10:51] everything. Any questions?

[1:10:53] >> I I had one question uh that that came

[1:10:56] up on one of the first slides. Is it UD

[1:10:59] do that's pursuing the 12 foot pathways

[1:11:02] on each side?

[1:11:03] >> So, it's part of the PAC Parkway they have and

[1:11:09] >> Oh, Travis. Uh, he could probably speak

[1:11:12] better to this, but yes, it's part of

[1:11:13] the the right of way.

[1:11:15] >> It's dot driven.

[1:11:16] >> Yes.

[1:11:16] >> Okay.

[1:11:16] >> Yes.

[1:11:17] >> That does that concern anybody that it's

[1:11:20] that large?

[1:11:22] >> That's at our request actually. So, we

[1:11:25] can have Yeah. drive a car down it.

[1:11:29] >> Well, but I

[1:11:32] >> Okay.

[1:11:33] >> So, for reference point, if if you may be familiar with the word

[1:11:38] Murdoch Trail.

[1:11:40] >> Yes.

[1:11:40] >> That is 12 feet.

[1:11:41] >> Yep.

[1:11:42] >> And it is a nice facility. It is

[1:11:45] wellused and we want this to be

[1:11:48] wellused. And if you do DOT's going to

[1:11:50] run a a giant wall through your city, we

[1:11:53] want people to be able to at least use

[1:11:55] the side of the wall.

[1:11:57] Yep.

[1:12:01] » Okay. Any other comments?

[1:12:03] >> Um I just have one. Um it's come to my

[1:12:06] attention and I talked about this at our

[1:12:07] many retreat. Um I think we really need

[1:12:09] to start paying attention to um a few

[1:12:13] more

[1:12:15] uh one level no stairs for upcoming

[1:12:20] um generations. Just to keep that in

[1:12:23] mind because everything I see is

[1:12:27] >> two stories or more and

[1:12:30] >> and we really need some they're just not

[1:12:33] being built right now and so

[1:12:34] >> it's true

[1:12:35] >> just right into the house no steps and

[1:12:38] stuff. So

[1:12:39] >> that is it own bullet point on the

[1:12:42] detached intentionally

[1:12:44] >> it it is its own point there and we do

[1:12:46] take some significant effort to talk

[1:12:48] about the ramblers and the need for it.

[1:12:50] >> Thank you.

[1:12:50] >> Yeah. Okay.

[1:12:51] >> That's all. Thank you.

[1:12:52] >> Okay, Chris, I think you've done a great

[1:12:54] job. I don't think there's any other

[1:12:55] questions from looking at the council.

[1:12:58] >> Great presentation.

[1:12:59] >> So, appreciate you and all your efforts.

[1:13:02] >> Uh, I did neglect and I know Andrew took

[1:13:05] care of it, but thank you for the

[1:13:06] planning commission members being here.

[1:13:08] We appreciate you.

[1:13:09] >> Yeah, thank you for being here.

[1:13:13] >> Mayor, I'd make a motion.

[1:13:15] >> Okay. that we go into a closed session

[1:13:18] to discuss the exchange, sale or lease

[1:13:21] of real property and number two, the

[1:13:24] character, professional confidence or

[1:13:26] physical or mental health of an

[1:13:28] individual.

[1:13:29] >> Okay.

[1:13:31] >> Is there a second

[1:13:32] >> at time?

[1:13:33] >> State the time.

[1:13:35] >> Okay. State the time. The time is 7:16

[1:13:38] p.m.

[1:13:39] >> I'll second.

[1:13:40] >> Okay. We have a motion been seconded.

[1:13:42] Starting roll co starting with council

[1:13:44] Smith. Yes.

[1:13:45] >> Council Moss.

[1:13:46] >> Yes.

[1:13:47] >> Promote score.

[1:13:50] >> Yes. You have to vote. Bob,

[1:13:51] >> it's your turn.

[1:13:52] >> Yes.

[1:13:56] » Okay. Then we are June to a close

[1:13:59] meeting.

[1:13:59] >> Thanks everyone.

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