[0:00] Good morning. >> You all stand and join us in the pledge

[0:04] of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

[0:09] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with

[0:15] liberty and justice for all. >> Okay, Marcy, could we have a roll call,

[0:20] please? >> Jeff,

[0:21] » here. >> Ben,

[0:22] » here. >> John,

[0:23] » here. And I'll note that uh Councilman Boxlider is absent tonight and the mayor

[0:28] uh had a schedule challenge and was not able to join us tonight. So I'm serving

[0:32] in the role of mayor prom just to execute the meeting. And a reminder for

[0:37] my fellow council people, I get to vote. So even though the mayor doesn't vote, I

[0:41] still [laughter] uh with that clarify that. Um I'll can I

[0:45] get a motion to approve the I'll make a motion to approve the

[0:51] agenda. I'll second Jeff I. Ben I Ryan I John I.

[0:56] » Okay. We're moving into the section for citizen comment. This is for citizen

[1:02] comment on anything that is on the agenda for tonight. If you'd like to

[1:06] address the council, we're happy to accept those comments. Limit your

[1:08] comments to two to three minutes and you can approach the podium. State your name

[1:12] and address before your comment.

[1:23] Nobody in the room. Anybody online? Marcy,

[1:25] » there's a couple people online. So, if they want to unmute, they certainly can.

[1:29] » Anyone online like want to address council?

[1:35] Anything on the agenda? Okay, we will close citizen comment.

[1:42] Uh consent agenda. Uh any questions on the consent agenda from council members?

[1:48] » Something for chief if any issues. I'm assuming there's been no issues with

[1:52] » it's all for the you know liquor license you're talking about not had any issues

[1:55] with them in the past. >> No problem.

[1:58] » And chief are those two liquor license they're just for like five day period.

[2:03] Marc know more about that but more or less is for their events.

[2:08] » Yes. Correct. >> Okay.

[2:10] » But no issues. >> Any questions or comments? I'll make a

[2:13] motion approve the consent agenda. >> I'll second it.

[2:16] » Jeff I Ben I R I >> John I

[2:19] » Okay, motion carries. >> Uh, next item is park and recreation

[2:25] report. I think Stacy's on >> Oh, she's out on vacation.

[2:28] » She's out on vacation. We did have brief dialogue with her at the work session

[2:32] last week. >> Um, she's got the facility utilization

[2:35] summary and the budget and year-to- date performance of the PCC and our council

[2:41] update. Does anybody have any questions that we need to take forward to Stacy?

[2:46] » No. >> Looks like the flooring is going to

[2:48] start here pretty soon. >> I was going to say it's good to see that

[2:50] get wrapped up. >> Close some gem space and get the

[2:54] flooring in and it'll be nice in the winter. Okay. Um, as the parks update,

[2:59] we'll go to police. Chief Comr. >> Yeah, you guys have my report. Yeah, we

[3:04] went over a lot of the stuff on Wednesday's meeting, the work session.

[3:09] However, the new squad is uh outfitted. It's out front if you guys want to take

[3:13] a look at it. We would love to did a great job on it. It's in operations now

[3:18] and good to ready to roll with it. So, other than that, you guys, we talked

[3:24] about the days that >> Yeah, we all that. So, I got nothing

[3:29] further for you. >> Anybody have any questions for Chief Co?

[3:31] Go ahead. >> Recently, I've noticed

[3:34] more violations for underage drinking or underage person alcohol. Yeah.

[3:38] » Is that something that you're seeing more of a

[3:41] » tick or >> Not really. Um, so that was an assist

[3:45] with the county. There was a couple parties over the weekend um that were

[3:49] busted uh out in the county and we didn't assist. There were so many kids

[3:53] at the parties that we took so many violations. County took whatever

[3:58] whatever we could help with. That's how that worked out.

[4:05] » Other questions for Chief

[4:09] Right. Um, public works report Dean. >> Sure. I just want to make one comment on

[4:15] a conversation that we had about the tower cleaning on tower number three

[4:20] last week at the work session. Um, that is back [clears throat] in operation.

[4:24] So, everything is back to normal on all our water side. Um, other than that, I

[4:29] really have nothing. Do you guys have any questions?

[4:31] » Was that the first one or the one further west?

[4:34] » That' be the further east one. Further east one

[4:36] » further uh the west tower was done a couple weeks ago three week two three

[4:41] weeks ago >> so everything's full back in operation

[4:45] » should be back to normal >> dean I know in our compost compost area

[4:52] I'm sure you guys are as frustrated as anybody is when they see everybody

[4:55] dumping the grass way up front >> right front

[4:59] » not way back is >> is there a sign is there a

[5:02] » to me it's common sense but >> yeah I I mean, we can we can definitely

[5:06] do some signage. Um, I guess it's just kind of our expectations that um um you

[5:12] know, residents that are using it would have a courtesy to put it back as far as

[5:16] they can just to make it beneficial to the next person that uh we can

[5:21] definitely uh get some signage made up. Um

[5:24] » maybe I just think it's a verbage. Uh we definitely

[5:27] » same thing like that's got to waste >> hours of your time just pushing that

[5:32] back. Well, couple times a week actually because, you know, once a pattern

[5:36] starts, you know, just, you know, it it takes longer to run up there than it

[5:41] does to actually push it back, you know, right?

[5:44] So, um, but yeah, we can definitely try to put some verbage together and um

[5:49] otherwise, yeah, I mean, we can just make a note maybe on uh on city site or

[5:54] something like that. Maybe try that too. >> Yeah, that's out of respect, you know.

[5:59] Got >> a little education thing.

[6:01] » Yeah.

[6:04] We'll try that first and uh if that don't work, you know, put some signage

[6:07] up there. >> Will you just make a a brief comment

[6:10] more for the public record about the progress of the trail in the parking lot

[6:14] for Kelly Oaks because we'll we'll vote on pay making some payment tonight. But

[6:18] » you bet. Absolutely. Uh trail uh project from Verge Road to uh Kelly Oak Park. Um

[6:24] just had conversation again today with River City. There has been a little bit

[6:28] of a delay. They started um asphalt on the trail on Friday. Um

[6:37] actually one of the dump trucks ran over the Mediacom box that is partially into

[6:42] the trail, crushed it. Therefore, that came to a halt. Then they moved on to

[6:46] another project hoping that Mediacom would come and reinstall the box. Um I

[6:51] do have to have a meet on site tomorrow morning with conversation on what's

[6:55] going to happen there, how much delay is going to take place. Maybe we can do

[6:58] some shifting of the trail or shifting of the box. Um, with that, River City is

[7:03] supposed to be showing up tomorrow for sure, putting a binder lift on the

[7:06] parking lot, then hoping they can jump on to the trail, the remainder of the

[7:11] trail, and then jump back to the parking lot, put a finish lift on. So, that

[7:16] would complete the trail and the parking lot with the asphalt portion. Then,

[7:21] Valentine Construction would come back and put the headers, the concrete

[7:24] headers in with the ADA. Um, blocks in them.

[7:30] » Good progress. >> And with that, uh, obviously restoration

[7:33] comes after that and it'll be complete. >> Okay.

[7:37] » Thanks, Dean. Any other questions for Dean, guys? Nope.

[7:41] Nobody. >> All right. Uh, we do not have an

[7:46] engineering report tonight. We do not have a planning and zoning report. Mayor

[7:50] is not here. I can't read his mind. So, I don't know if we have a mayor's

[7:53] report. Do not. Um and nothing for development. We had that update from

[7:58] PBCA at our last meeting in our work session. So that will take us to the

[8:03] administration portion. Um we have items A and B. We have two pay estimates

[8:09] number eight, number nine to grown and restoration for Helios Oaks Pavilion

[8:13] project. Why don't I just see if there's any questions about either of those and

[8:17] we will take them separately for approving the resolutions.

[8:21] » Dean, you've approved both of these, right?

[8:23] » I sure did. I don't know if anybody's got any questions or concerns on any of

[8:26] the >> any questions on either of those two

[8:28] items >> on either pay eight or nine.

[8:31] » Okay. If not, I will take a motion on uh 675 pay estimate 8.

[8:42] » I'll make a motion on Kelly.

[8:48] » I'll second Ben. Motion carries. All right. Item B, pay

[8:55] estimate number nine by Groonin. Need a resol motion for the resolution.

[9:01] » Same thing, Dean. No issues. >> No, no issues on either. So, they

[9:06] appeared to be correct. >> Make a motion approving resolution

[9:11] 2026-76 uh approving pay estimate number nine

[9:15] for drone restoration. >> I'll second. Jeff I Ben I Brian I

[9:20] » J I motion carries. Uh item C. This is the first pay estimate submitted by

[9:27] Valentine Construction for the trail and parking lot work for Kelly Oaks. Any

[9:32] questions for Dean on the documentation? >> I did go through and make measurements

[9:38] on all the line items. Um originally there was one line item that

[9:44] was incorrect. I made correction to that. Um and then asked that it would be

[9:50] submitted. So everything appears to be correct on

[9:55] » this is the resubmitted then? >> Yes.

[9:57] » Okay. >> Pay estimate one. Everything should be

[9:59] correct. >> Valentine construction.

[10:02] » Any questions on the pay estimate?

[10:10] Okay. If hearing none, I would accept a motion for the resolution. I'll make a

[10:14] motion approve resolution 20 202677 approving pass one submitted by Valent

[10:21] Construction for Kelly Oaks Trail and parking lot project. Is there a second?

[10:25] » I'll second. >> Ryan I motion carries.

[10:31] Item number D. We did work up D and E in our work session last week. So this uh

[10:37] item D is a resolution for the access control system for Kelly Oaks Pavilion

[10:43] as proposed by DNG communications. This is what we talked about at our work

[10:46] session.

[10:50] Any questions or comments? No changes to that at all.

[10:57] » I can't be of too much assistance to the um

[11:02] » to that part of it. Uh Stacy's been more involved in that.

[11:06] So apologize she has not given me any updates if there is any corrections that

[11:10] need to be made on that. So I would assume that

[11:13] » I don't work >> the number looked correct talked about

[11:17] last week the same quote >> same solution and I think we gave verbal

[11:22] approval for them to proceed with the work session.

[11:25] » So all right if there's no concerns then I would accept a motion on that

[11:30] resolution. Make a motion uh to approve resolution

[11:34] 202678 approving the Kelly Oaks pavilion access

[11:38] control system proposed provided by TM chief.

[11:41] » Second I'll second Brian I

[11:45] » motion carries item

[11:50] number E. It's not a number is it? Item letter E.

[11:55] Um the access control system for the fire station in Pia. uh the CMD security

[12:02] solution that we looked at and uh chief [snorts] recommended to us last

[12:08] Wednesday. I don't think calculated the numbers myself. Everything looks the

[12:12] same as what we talked about. >> And this is without the the cameras.

[12:15] » No cameras. >> Correct.

[12:17] » But new door strikes for the bathroom, >> including bathroom.

[12:20] » Those three items. Yep. >> Yep.

[12:24] There. Any questions on that?

[12:29] No. Nope. All right, I will accept a motion on that resolution. Please,

[12:33] » I'll make a motion to approve resolution 679

[12:37] approving CRIA fire CIA Pasta Fire Department access control proposal

[12:43] provided by CMP Security Solutions. >> I'll second Jeff.

[12:46] » I Ben I Brian I >> John I.

[12:48] » Motion carries. Fire department will be pleased. That'll serve us well. Okay. No

[12:54] other administrative business uh or at this section of our agenda. It's

[12:58] supposed to be public citizen comment. Anything that's not on the agenda, so

[13:02] any topic is is fair game. Again, the instruction is come up to the podium,

[13:07] your name and your address. Try to be succinct, two to three minutes with your

[13:11] comment, and we're happy to take comments in the room or questions and uh

[13:16] from the online community.

[13:23] How's the first

[13:26] here? >> Name and address.

[13:28] » Alex Gird, 75 Bertridge North. Um, it's been about two weeks since the data

[13:33] center survey came out and I was just wondering if your thoughts or feedback

[13:37] on what you saw or uh what you learned from that.

[13:41] » We have it scheduled for our for the next work work session which is next

[13:45] week. >> So, we will be dialoguing on it there.

[13:48] » Are there any um invitees to that meeting?

[13:51] We currently have Alliant energy lined up, Makoka Valley

[13:56] and then the rest of it will be internal discussion [clears throat]

[13:59] » but we're going to deal with the survey results

[14:01] » at that meeting >> and Alliant and Makoka Valley is related

[14:04] to power. >> That is correct.

[14:06] » So we'll have two topics on the work session

[14:08] » and typical work session fashion. There'll be no comments from attendees.

[14:13] » I will leave that to the mayor. I know in the past he has and then the last one

[14:17] he didn't. Yeah. Um, >> and it just depends on how much how much

[14:22] time it takes. So, as a council, we have not dialogued with each other about the

[14:28] survey results. I'm sure everyone's reviewed them. I've personally read all

[14:32] 478 some comments that were specific to council plus the results

[14:37] » about 300 in. >> So, I'll be I would just encourage all

[14:40] of you guys to make sure we read every bit of that before we come. So that's

[14:44] where we'll be able to share our impressions and things with you and with

[14:47] each other. >> Uh my next is I can for Dean if you have

[14:51] a basketball hoop up at the place where people throw their

[14:57] shoot towards the ground. >> Absolutely.

[15:01] » Say you get a% reduction.

[15:06] » I would recommend though you are going to put

[15:08] » Even if I put it halfway it' be better than nothing. I think if you put line up

[15:11] on the ground that you make people try to try to go towards as opposed to like

[15:15] a visual sign because if you're carrying something I don't know I put a line on

[15:18] the ground. >> Thank you Alex.

[15:21] » Anyone else for public comments please >> Jess Baker 10595 Cardinal Drive. I would

[15:28] just encourage you to allow public comment at the upcoming work sessions. I

[15:32] think um it's useful. >> That's it.

[15:34] » Thank you. I'll pass that along to the mayor to

[15:37] » I I'm pretty sure that the last time he said that he did want it at one of the

[15:41] first meetings to go ahead and put it on there. So, I don't know why it wasn't on

[15:43] there the last time. >> Yeah. I just think we need to be

[15:45] consistent with it. I think we should allow it myself.

[15:48] » Yep. We'll make sure we have it on there.

[15:50] » It's just a Yeah, it's um in typical in in work sessions, it's not

[15:56] a public conversation. It's a council conversation. So, I know the mayor made

[15:59] an exception center work session. the first couple. I know that that's our

[16:04] intention is to have dialogue. So we'll over that please.

[16:08] » Donna Bird 7815 Birds Road. I just have a couple questions.

[16:12] » Can you speak just a little louder? So the

[16:14] » one is between Casey's and Dollar General. There's a great going through

[16:20] there. That great is about all broke out. and it's wondering who owns that

[16:24] property or who would be in charge because if a kid would be riding a bike,

[16:29] they could very easily go in there and twist or somebody walking by would twist

[16:34] the name. >> That would be probably Dollar General.

[16:36] Correct. >> Well, I asked Dollar General and they

[16:38] told me they weren't responsible. >> Sure they did. [laughter]

[16:44] That's that's their that's their >> Yeah,

[16:47] » I can reach out to like we can reach out >> on contact for that property.

[16:52] » You know, now that you say that, it almost looks like it's on the border.

[16:56] » We can reach out to the manager, >> right? Check prop it was installed

[17:01] though when the Dollar General uh was built.

[17:04] » We made them We made them put the underwater

[17:07] » storm water, right? >> Yeah. It was installed when the Dollar

[17:09] General was built. Thank you for raising my assumption it's theirs.

[17:13] » And the other question is when will your pavilion be open to rent and who would

[17:19] be a contact person? >> It's a great question. Um we're taking

[17:22] reservations now or the spring and I think it's like April. Um so it won't be

[17:28] rented over the winter, but we're taking reservations now for starting in April.

[17:32] And you can contact at this point Stacy Bower, the director of PCC and our parks

[17:37] at uh just >> I believe it's live online as well if

[17:39] you have a account >> kind of look through there.

[17:42] » I think she was trying to keep it >> I think for the first she kind of man.

[17:47] » Yeah. Stacy's out this week. So if you just call and ask for attire Stacy.

[17:51] » Okay. >> I'm sorry. Tire Vicki.

[17:53] » Okay. >> One of them. You can make the phone call

[17:56] now and get on the list for next spring. Be great.

[17:59] » Thank you for those comments. Other comments, please.

[18:09] Hello Markfall 144 Leslie Drive. Um couple things here. Um I do have a

[18:17] concern about uh that new data center too kind of with like everybody else. So

[18:22] I just want that noted. But uh the other thing is um have there been any

[18:28] increases in the water bills and stuff like that here as of late?

[18:34] climbing like ungodly. I've had two people move out of the house in the past

[18:38] year and it goes up. So, did you guys hit a raise or what?

[18:44] » We raised >> We raised water rates by action last

[18:47] year and I think it went into effect in July.

[18:49] » Correct. >> So, what percent did you guys raise?

[18:52] It's quite a bit the water rates over like a we we approved a three-year

[18:56] schedule and I would be misspeaking without looking to detail

[19:01] » but it's 12 to 15% over 3 years and sewer was like 2 to 3% for each of the

[19:06] next three years. So two to 3% understand.

[19:09] » Y >> but from three years ago paying maybe

[19:14] $105 to this bill here $150 if I do my math correctly that'd be

[19:21] about 9% but that just don't equal up. >> Yeah. So the rationale behind the water

[19:25] rate increases because we all benefit from them too because we live in the

[19:28] city. Um it's related to the water system improvement project and the new

[19:32] tower and stuff that's going in. we are statutoily required to keep that revenue

[19:37] fund in balance with the debt. We're taking debt out on the water system

[19:41] thing. So we uh we got bound council advice and quite a bit of study for more

[19:47] than a year or something before we acted on the water rates. So and their advice

[19:51] was to only put a if I remember this right only put a water rate schedule

[19:56] change out for three years. we talked about if we could go up further and

[20:00] stretch them flat and further but uh that's why those big jumps they're

[20:04] because of the capital investment that's being made I saw in here year 1 is 10%

[20:09] increase year two 12 year 3 15% uh that's where the water rates and sewer

[20:15] is 10 five5 >> holy cow

[20:19] » for real >> the sewer rates were related to the

[20:22] prior investment in the water treatment plant that was already behind us and an

[20:26] increase in operating costs related to the inflationary period.

[20:30] » Relatively new community, right? >> Right.

[20:34] » Well, most of our growth is relatively new community.

[20:36] » Yeah. So, I guess I don't quite understand

[20:40] on why we were not uh factoring this stuff in as we were growing instead of

[20:44] just all at once, you know, you guys. >> The water tower uh we were talking about

[20:50] that since I believe four years ago, >> maybe 2021. It's been a hot minute since

[20:55] we talked about it for a long time. before we had need we felt the need to

[20:59] pull pull the plug on it. Both the sewer fund and the water fund, we have

[21:03] statutory law related to how those funds have to be managed. They have to be, you

[21:07] know, we have to have our revenues match our expenses, including capital

[21:11] investment. That's kind of >> done with the increases now.

[21:14] » We we have them scheduled out for three years. 10

[21:18] » They started July 1st, I believe. >> So this year,

[21:22] » what you're telling me is I could probably have a $200 water bill here in

[21:27] three years. I'm telling you, we've scheduled them

[21:30] for the fiscal year we're in and the next two.

[21:32] » Yeah. >> Yeah. But beyond that, we don't I'm just

[21:35] saying that it just so increases all started.

[21:41] » You can come up after >> one question.

[21:43] » The substantial increase is all started after CO.

[21:46] » I mean, prices, materials. I'm not I'm not here to blame it on CO. I'm just

[21:52] telling >> you have other questions.

[21:54] We're usually not in a dialogue, but I feel like you guys should get the answer

[21:57] if you didn't know the prior answer. So, we spent a year on this as a council.

[22:01] » I guess just sticker shock. >> Yeah,

[22:04] » I hear you. >> Also, if you just go online, if you ever

[22:06] go on to the PIA website here, it does say, "How do I find my usage? What's the

[22:10] increase?" And it'll kind of give you the on here. Just if you want,

[22:14] » we're rapidly growing. So, we're adjusting to some of those growing.

[22:17] » Well, then we need to pass pass it on to our growth partners. It's basically

[22:21] passed on by by usage and we're all sharing in it.

[22:24] » So, all right. Yeah. Thank you. >> Thank you. Come on. You can ma'am, you

[22:28] can approach. >> No, no, please come to the podium name

[22:31] and address and then you can ask your question.

[22:33] » Same. So, I'm just wondering >> Patricia Horse.

[22:37] » Thank you, Patricia. >> So, if we got our water tested, would it

[22:40] be just as good as would the water be? So, if we're doing all these upgrades to

[22:45] the sewer, whatever. So, is it good water?

[22:47] » The water that is tested? Absolutely. That is what I guess I've never got my

[22:51] water. >> We have not changed the aquifer that

[22:52] we're in. >> Yeah,

[22:53] » we're in the Jordan aquifer. Water's still coming from the same location.

[22:57] » Okay. Um >> because I know we have a relative that

[22:59] used to run the Debuke water system. >> He doesn't do it now. He's retired.

[23:04] » Okay. >> But we just I mean Debuke water is

[23:06] really was really if I can say that now I don't know.

[23:10] » But I was just wondering if I'm paying all this money. I at least want because

[23:14] it's like we're paying it's an electric bill,

[23:16] » right? >> Pretty much just for water. I mean, I

[23:18] know the sewer or whatever is included, but

[23:20] » sewer is a separate fund. You get Yeah, >> they fund separately.

[23:25] » And they were different drivers in those rate increases. That's what I was trying

[23:29] to explain to your husband. >> Yeah.

[23:31] » Thank you, Patricia. Thank you. >> Other questions, comments?

[23:39] » Yeah. Yeah. My name is not Craig this week.

[23:41] » Craig Green, 10563 Cardinal Drive, PiA. Um,

[23:48] actually just wanted to present something to y'all. I spent a couple of

[23:51] days for business down in Cedar Rapids last week. My hotel bill was $613.38

[24:00] for two nights at a hotel. Um, bringing this to y'all for awareness around the

[24:08] data center conversation. Obviously, hotel rates are going to go up

[24:13] exponentially. Y'all got family coming in. They're going to pay an arm and a

[24:18] leg to try to stay in a hotel anywhere in our area. Um,

[24:23] two nights, $613.38 cents for a room in Cedar Rapids, Iowa

[24:29] because of what's going on down there. Um, I did actually talk to the manager

[24:34] um and stay in Marat for a really long time. Um, because I traveled for work.

[24:39] We actually do not get to control the prices of the rooms. So somebody like me

[24:44] that walks in as a platinum elite and they're with them forever, they can't

[24:48] adjust their room rates. So they are set at what they are. Um and most of us, if

[24:53] you've been into a hotel room before, you look at the back of the door and

[24:57] they got the rate sheet in the back, they can charge up $600, $700 a night

[25:01] per room, right? Cedar Rapids, Iowa, guys, $618

[25:07] for two nights in a room in Cedar Rapids. And it's because of what's

[25:10] happening with the data centers. I mean, it's just jacking everything up down

[25:13] there. So, anyway, that's what I was here tonight.

[25:16] » Thank you. >> Have a good night.

[25:18] » You, too. >> Other comments in the room.

[25:24] » Up the phone. >> Name and address.

[25:28] » Devon 16435 Old Highway Road, Pasta, Iowa. So after reviewing the results of

[25:36] your recent survey on data centers, I urge you all to do the right thing by

[25:41] adopting a strict ordinance or better yet extend the current moratorum to

[25:47] prevent a large or hypers scale data center from moving into our area, our

[25:52] community. Technology is advancing quickly

[25:56] and these resource intensive data centers may soon become obsolete while

[26:02] our valuable crop land will never be replaced. It'll be lost forever.

[26:08] I understand that the financial offer may seem too good to pass up, but the

[26:13] potential downsides makes this a risky choice. These companies could leave

[26:18] quickly and fail to restore the land, even with a signed contract.

[26:23] We have seen similar incidents happen right down here with the court where

[26:28] they were supposed to restore it has it's still the same as when they left

[26:32] it. So then the community will be left to deal with the aftermath and the

[26:36] cleanup. At this point all you need to do is say

[26:40] no to the voluntary annexation and extend the moratorum.

[26:45] the claim that the county will approve this same piece of land, sort of steal

[26:50] it out from underneath us or you guys um does not apply here unless there is

[26:58] clear proof to support that statement. So unless there's been a deal made by

[27:03] the county that we don't know about, please do write by the citizens who

[27:08] voted for all of you and place their trust in your leadership.

[27:13] Listen to them. They did the survey. They answered it. They took the time.

[27:18] The survey reflects their voices. So, please extend the moratorum and pursue

[27:23] the strongest ordinance possible. PASTA has spoken and its residents do not want

[27:30] a data center. >> I'll make two comments.

[27:34] » We've approved. We approved a six-month mortorium and we

[27:39] can extend it if we need to. That's the first comment. and we would have every

[27:42] intention of extending the moratorum if we're not ready. Strict ordinance,

[27:47] that's what we're after. Now, your comment about the land, I'll say from my

[27:50] standpoint, I'm not worried about somebody stealing the project

[27:53] opportunity from us. We didn't ask for the project to be proposed to us. But

[27:57] I'm thinking about this that even if Pia says no, we could still end up with a

[28:02] data center in that space because the county will likely at some point have an

[28:07] ordinance and if they can meet it. So we could as PASA we could be staring at it

[28:10] and having all the the challenges related to it and it will be county. So

[28:14] at that point if there were any tax benefits which theoretically there would

[28:18] be um PASA would not participate in that but we would still have it on the south

[28:22] side of the highway. So there's so much unknown but that's my comment about the

[28:26] land. >> I might add also is that if that was to

[28:29] happen we would not be in control of the safe safeguards that would want to put

[28:34] in place. >> No control. So we have no control over

[28:36] » it'll be whatever the county's ordinance would be if it ends up in the same place

[28:41] » until >> sure that doesn't matter if the

[28:45] moratorum's over at 12 12 months if the developer meets every requirement the

[28:50] county sets forth it could still be built

[28:52] » there >> period countyy's developing a strong

[28:56] ordinance that will not allow a data center to move in there

[29:01] take a look at the ordinance that's proposed you will see that. So the

[29:06] argument that if we don't do it, they will does not exist unless you guys know

[29:10] something that we don't. >> We've we've got actually Karine gave us

[29:14] copies of the county one and we're going to be looking at that along with ours.

[29:17] So we have every intention you guys of having a strict ordinance. Okay. Legal

[29:22] legal counsel at this point has said an outright ban is not possible. We will be

[29:26] investigating that question too. Okay. >> Perfect. Thank you.

[29:30] » Thanks for your comments, Devon. Other questions? Comments? from the room.

[29:36] What about our friends online? Anyone online like to address the council about

[29:39] any topic?

[29:45] » Uh yes. Is this is this uh sorry I joined late. Is this the um open

[29:49] comments in in the session here? >> It is. So your name and address?

[29:54] » Yes. Uh Jared Barl um 8294 Colbridge Street have some comments on the recent

[30:00] uh discussions of of the data center. um kind of I I know a lot of people have

[30:05] been coming forward. Um I felt like I needed to to call in online here and and

[30:09] make some of my concerns known as well. Um just the scale and the magnitude of

[30:16] what this proposal is is really significant to the community. the

[30:22] electricity which I know you guys I've sat in on earlier meetings um talking

[30:27] about the the the the power source using by the meter natural gas a natural gas

[30:33] power plant is only about 55% efficient and that is considering that they use a

[30:41] openloop system for cooling of that power plant um said power plant it

[30:47] becomes less efficient when you start talking a closed loop system similarly

[30:52] to what they're they're considering for say the data center. Um I think what

[30:57] this council also needs to consider is two ordinances not just data center

[31:03] related also power plant designed ordinance. What does that look like?

[31:09] What is the water consumption of that facility? because I can tell you right

[31:13] now that the amount of water that they're going to need is going to be far

[31:18] significant than what these other facilities or other businesses within

[31:23] the Piesta um community already use. It just

[31:28] doesn't make sense to have a power plant that is a closed loop system. I mean

[31:34] that I mean just alone the amount of water that it's going to take is huge.

[31:41] Um, and even even a open loop or sorry closed loop system for a power plant is

[31:47] somewhat experimental. >> Um,

[31:51] » I've got a question. Uh, you you say that the power plants in

[31:55] these systems use a great deal of water. What is what is that great deal of

[31:59] water? Do you know? >> Um, cooling. So, I mean each power plant

[32:03] that >> But how many gallons does

[32:05] » quantity >> quantity?

[32:08] [clears throat] Um, yes, I have that. Depending on the scale, I mean, right,

[32:13] he he spitball 350 megawatt, you're looking at 4.2 to 5.9 million gallons of

[32:19] water. You go to the full scale, 850 megawatt, you're looking at 10.2 to 14.3

[32:24] million gallons of water. That's 47,000 homes, almost 58,000 homes.

[32:30] » And where do you get that information from? Um just doing some some research

[32:34] and scaling of uh power plant design looking at um some of the the scales of

[32:41] what these facilities take. I'm just doing research.

[32:46] » Yeah, if you find that research if you would share that with our city, we'll

[32:50] get that into >> Yeah, I can start uh sharing some of

[32:54] those uh >> stuff. I mean, I'd like there was with

[33:00] the the recent um person coming up to like DNR regulations in place, he said

[33:05] that it's heavy-legged, but regulated by the DNR. From my experience, DNR can

[33:10] only do so much. Um, when it comes to a big business like that, um, likely, uh,

[33:17] a facility of that size, they are going to have,

[33:22] uh, how do I put this? They will have they will exceed the DNR regulations for

[33:30] how much contaminants they can put in the water or the ground system

[33:34] locally. Generally what they'll start doing is that they'll pay fines. It's

[33:39] cheaper to pay the fines than actually fix the problem in most cases.

[33:46] » So concern about water consumption and also water runoff and right water comes

[33:50] out of the building. Yeah. Those are both on our radar screen to deal with in

[33:54] the ordinance. We will right definitely >> we'll definitely have some conversation

[33:58] around if we have to have a separate ordinance about power plant or if it can

[34:02] be incorporated into what we're doing >> and points

[34:05] » I know there's a lot of they they say closed loop system I closed loop systems

[34:12] a lot of your stuff is closed loop um there's also a lot of problems with

[34:16] closed loop systems because of the water that we use in this region our water's

[34:20] hard um so it's going to take a lot of treatment of that water. Um it does

[34:26] create issues in a closed loop system as far as rare earth metals, forever um

[34:32] forever chemicals. Um just the wrong pH balance temperature, it starts to create

[34:39] um essentially

[34:42] corrosive chemicals in the system in the closed loop system and you have they

[34:46] will they will be filtering that out and that will be an off byproduct. Where

[34:50] does that go? Does that internally on their site or does that also do we have

[34:56] to is the city of Pasta water going to have to filter those out? Are we

[35:01] capable? Is our systems capable of filtering that out and handling that?

[35:08] » All right, Jared, I'm going to give you 30 more seconds and I'm going to invite

[35:11] you to any work session and other meeting if you want to make additional

[35:14] points. Um

[35:17] » just in the interest of time, we don't have an unlimited time for dialogue.

[35:21] » No, I understand. Um just Yeah, just the last talk like to hit on is the land.

[35:26] This is going to be a huge facility. They're talking 350 to 850. If they go

[35:31] that$850 route, you're looking at Port Washington, Wisconsin size, $15 billion

[35:35] uh facility. Equally here, high-end, it's probably going to be right around

[35:40] that $15 billion investment. um they're going to be needing up close to 850

[35:46] acres for 850 megawatt facility or sorry 850 megawatt facility is going to need

[35:51] about 500 to 850 acres. So the 194 acres that we have that they have slated that

[35:56] they're looking at they're going to be looking to buy up a lot more land. The

[35:59] BMS the site development the land it's going to be a huge impact. It's this is

[36:04] not a small fry. This is a colossal scale for this community. So, I'll just

[36:10] end on that and then end um that uh this this is a bedroom community and that a

[36:17] lot of the people here just just don't want it. I'm I'm one of those. And

[36:21] eventually this AI bubble, it will fall. It will it will will burst because the

[36:25] majority of the investments and the financial credit will run dry.

[36:33] » Thanks, Jared. Thanks, Jared. My only comment that he said the proposal that's

[36:37] been made. I want everybody here to be clear. We're in a moratorum. No proposal

[36:41] has been made to the city of Piaa. They cannot make application for a project in

[36:45] the moratorum period. The only thing we had is the night that Jim Conland is

[36:49] here and talked about his concept. There is no proposal. Okay. I want to be

[36:53] clear. I want people to understand that. Okay. Other comments online. We have one

[37:00] other person online. Would you like to speak?

[37:06] All right. >> May I make one more comment and I I'll

[37:09] send this information as well. >> You are welcome to send it or you're

[37:13] welcome to come to our work session or a future meeting and make additional

[37:17] comments. >> Okay. Thank you.

[37:19] » Thanks, Jared. All right. There being no further citizen comments, I'll close the

[37:23] citizen comment period. Uh council people, any other business

[37:28] come before? All right. I will take a motion to adjurnn.

[37:31] » I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second, Jeff. Hi Ben Ryan. I

[37:34] » Hi. >> We stand adjourned.

[37:38] » Thanks guys.

Tuesday, September 8, 2026 Peosta City Council Meeting

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