[3:45] The September 2nd, 2026 Park Commission meeting is called order.

[3:49] We'll be getting a meeting with a roll call, starting on my far-right.

[3:54] For the meeting transcript, can each commissioner state their name and that they are present?

[3:58] Jack Fisher, President.

[4:01] Channel Wagner, President.

[4:02] Tom Smegel, President.

[4:03] Or in the home president.

[4:05] And the three that are not present, we are aware of that, and they are excused.

[4:09] So we'll see them next time.

[4:11] Next up is Public Forum.

[4:14] This is an opportunity for members of the audience to speak on items not on the agenda.

[4:20] So potentially a 10 minute period divided evenly between those who wish to speak.

[4:25] Question also welcomes comments on each agenda item and ask those comments focus on the particular agenda item.

[4:31] Please limit your comments to three minutes.

[4:34] Are there any speaker cards for public forum?

[4:39] So I will close public forum and move on to our regular agenda.

[4:42] So item one on the regular agenda is approval of the minutes from our August meeting.

[4:51] So anybody have any corrections or additions, anything that's missed there?

[4:58] Okay, can I get a motion in this next.

[5:04] Thank you. All in favour? And hand raises fine? Great. That's approved. Next up is an update on city parks and athletic fields. Nancy, will you be doing the honors there?

[5:19] So,

[5:24] the last month, we have been in the field a lot working on two construction projects.

[5:30] The first one is the ADA and Swing Project at Piedmont Park, and if you haven't been there,

[5:41] walkway is in the planting that PBF has helped fund with a coast with a island oak and

[5:53] manzanita and coffee berry. Those plants are in. We did air spading around the native oak

[6:04] tree in the upper right hand corner that had sand in it and the arborce was really concerned

[6:10] about the compaction. It was really fascinating when we thought we would air spade down

[6:17] 12 inches to remove all the sand. The roots of the oak tree that really find baby roots

[6:24] of the oak tree were encountered at about six inches. So we did not have to air spade as

[6:33] material as we thought, so the compacted sand that came in from the top

[6:41] lot was removed. We put down a material called biochard underneath the top

[6:49] dressing of the playground fiber. So we're hoping that all that work helps

[6:55] alleviate some of the compaction under the native oak and helps with

[7:01] air flow and nutrients and all of that under me sok.

[7:08] The other thing that I know everybody is really looking forward to is the swings

[7:15] and that is the one thing that has not arrived in time.

[7:21] So I have been assured that the swings are ordered.

[7:24] Once they are ordered, one contractor will come in, install the swings and then also put the playground fiber in around the swing.

[7:36] So until that comes into the city and the work is done, the area where the previous swings were, it's going to be closed.

[7:46] But everything else is opened up.

[7:49] We have a little bit of sensing to protect the newly seeded lawn at the uppermost part.

[7:57] And Nick and I are working on getting some benches in.

[8:02] There are several benches that we're going to work with when we get the native play area in.

[8:08] So I think I can get half of the benches that we're there before, reinstall, and then we'll

[8:14] work on the remaining ventures when we do the plan for the nature play.

[8:20] So just see here.

[8:23] So these were just the plants that you can look at there.

[8:26] We put another island to open.

[8:30] That's been a really successful and happy tree in Piedmont.

[8:35] We have two mancinitas, the doctor heard, which is the larger mancinita.

[8:40] We tried this over at the Highland Guilford steps, and it's a slow grower, but it is, it's a really handsome plant that we planted in clusters of threes, so I think, ultimately that becomes sort of a multi-trunk shrub in that area.

[8:58] And then the ground cover is the pacific mist,

[9:03] art de staffelists, and then we have the coyote

[9:09] meant where that's the butterfly that's in the photo.

[9:16] And that plant we used over at the circle on Magnolia

[9:23] and also along Grand Oakland Avenue.

[9:26] So that those these plants were we we've had success in other areas and they're all

[9:34] California natives, which is always a nice thing

[9:39] Any comments on that or should keep going? I'm sure no, I let we have a light agenda so let's

[9:45] Do it individually. Are you want to go ahead?

[9:48] That sounds great. I I guess what I'm wondering is the coyote mountain and

[9:52] and more so than the others, I guess,

[9:55] but they're relative and short-liped, right?

[9:58] So the plan is to jump.

[10:02] Well, they've been in. Yes. Well, I think of all the plants. The coyote men is probably the most ornamental and

[10:12] the one that is, it's definitely not a woody plant. So we'll see how that goes. But having a little bit of color in there was desire.

[10:25] Yeah,

[10:29] I guess you're going back to the prior slide, but tell me a little tell us a little bit more about the

[10:35] the fiber what that material is that you're putting down for the playground surface. So that is technically called

[10:42] Engineier wood fiber, and it is approved for ADA access. Now here we're using it a

[10:57] And over time, it is not recycled material, unfortunately, it is what you would call it.

[11:08] Virgin would material, but it meets very specific specifications for either playground, surfacing,

[11:19] or playground surfacing that is ADA accessible or pathways for ADA accessible.

[11:24] So, this we're just really using right now as a ground cover until we put in the adventure

[11:31] play.

[11:32] Okay.

[11:32] And the adventure play would be, if I'm looking at the big picture on the left, I would

[11:35] be the area that is past.

[11:38] Well, we're hoping to kind of sweep it around the swing amphitheater.

[11:43] So maybe stepping, it hasn't been designed yet, but the idea is maybe some stepping stones

[11:50] or sort of a journey pathway that may start in the lowest part and then wrap around up

[11:59] towards the street.

[12:02] Okay, but the pathway that was on the other side has been removed.

[12:06] Correct.

[12:07] Other questions?

[12:10] Um, looks great.

[12:11] I'm excited to see it all come together.

[12:13] Just out of curiosity are the swings?

[12:15] The exact same replacement like two buckets of it.

[12:20] And then last question for me on that, I know we've had some concerns about some of the trees that are around that place structure.

[12:29] I think it's they're all heritage trees right we've identified that group.

[12:32] The Oaks are yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

[12:34] The coastline folks. Is this one was was that an okay shape the one that we've now kind of rehabilitated the area the soil area around it.

[12:44] Are we hoping that's going to improve it or was it an okay shape to start with?

[12:47] You know, when I first started here, it was showing some real signs of concern and at some point I think it was under my predecessors.

[12:59] To which they removed or we might have removed bouncy, there were bouncy, you know, those little bouncy things underneath the oak tree.

[13:08] And believe it or not, they were finding that they thought the compaction was difficult for the trees.

[13:15] So those were removed. And then I think over time, as the sand migrated into that area, the sand ends up compacting as well.

[13:27] So it was an opportunity to address the compaction in that area, not necessarily that we were super concerned about the condition.

[13:39] but I think the goal is to keep that tree obviously as healthy as possible.

[13:47] Great.

[13:49] Good question.

[13:50] You look great.

[13:52] Has it come up at all young new plants and kids trampling over them?

[13:59] Has it been discussed at all, putting up some protective netting to let things get mature?

[14:05] I know it's not the prettiest looking thing.

[14:10] Right now everything hasn't been trampled on yet.

[14:16] So I think we'll sort of take that day by day.

[14:21] See how it is.

[14:24] All right.

[14:25] You want to move on to the next chapter.

[14:27] So this has been an amazing leaf.

[14:32] This is Hampton Park.

[14:34] And if you remember in 2016 Hampton Park

[14:38] with some WW funds and some donations through PRFO.

[14:45] The entire park was regraded.

[14:50] The turf was redone with an extensive drainage system.

[14:55] And the infield went from the old fashioned cinder to artificial turf.

[15:00] So the turf was at a ten-year lifespan, and that's what most of the industry standards are for artificial turf.

[15:11] We did try and replace the where areas, unfortunately for us, those replacements were not as successful as I think they will be this time around.

[15:24] We had a installer in 2016 that the turf company ended up folding during the construction process.

[15:37] So the general contractor took over the warranty of the turf.

[15:42] Warranties are usually about seven years.

[15:44] So, this time around we've spent times thinking about where the wear patterns are, the

[15:52] pictures mound is a tougher material than the other orange area.

[15:59] We also have considered when we have to replace the high wear areas that the design lines

[16:12] make sense if we have to remove some panels.

[16:17] So I think there's also been thought this time around to accommodate not only little league, but also softball.

[16:26] So the basis, there's this, this group here may know more about baseball than I do, but the bases are actually

[16:38] It's embedded, what's the quite term for that?

[16:44] They're not just loose spaces, but we actually have a sleeve in there, several different options

[16:50] for that.

[16:52] The comments I've gotten is the green, overall people like this green better than the old

[16:57] green.

[16:58] It's a little bit deeper and a little bit greener just to give you a quick overview of how

[17:07] the process goes, the first sleeve is a forecliff where they actually have a tube and they roll

[17:13] up the old turf, what you're looking at there underneath the old turf is the Brock pad.

[17:20] That's the cushion pad. It looks like Eglue styrofoam lids that are actually snapped together

[17:28] and formed the cushion so that young athletes have cushion underneath the fabric.

[17:35] that that's called a Brockpad and that is stockpiled on site to be reused then the filter

[17:45] fabric is removed and they do string lines to check out the the grading of the actual

[17:55] field to make sure that it hasn't sunk we had a testing done the drainage has remained very

[18:03] solid on the field. So once the minor dips were graded, they were very minor, they come back in

[18:11] and they reinstall the filter fabric, reinstall the Brock pad, and then the fun part, which

[18:18] is the second photo where they start laying the carpet down on top of the Brock pad. The white

[18:24] is the Brock pad, and you'll see that the old Brock pad is used everywhere, but on the edges,

[18:32] because the edges tend to be the areas where there might be some give, so you want a really

[18:40] tight joint system with these. So we have new rock pad along the edges. In 2016 they sewed the

[18:49] seams together and in 2026 they actually use a glue system. So the third picture is the system

[18:58] used to put the seams together.

[19:03] The fourth picture is just the rolls on site and the guys

[19:08] working to pull the different carpets in place. And the last slide was done today. You'll

[19:14] see remnant pieces all around. They've finished with all the rock pad that will be disposed

[19:21] of off-site and now they're just doing the final.

[19:28] There's some striping lines that need to be done along bases.

[19:34] And once the entire carpet is in, they come back in and put sand and cork in fill.

[19:41] And they think that that should be complete by early next week.

[19:47] Sounds good.

[19:50] Questions comments from commissioners?

[19:57] A public comment on item two.

[20:01] Okay. Thank you, Nancy. We'll move on to item 3. We have data on our sustainable park management plan. Implementation strategy.

[20:10] So we do have a speaker card for Garrett Q&A.

[20:13] For three. Do you have a reason for the spirit of first?

[20:19] Garrett, you want to come? Do you have a report, Nancy, before we get to public comment?

[20:25] I have an update on using the spreadsheet that we use last time, so I can give a-

[20:33] Why don't you give a brief update, and then we'll have Polo.

[20:37] So one of the things that we're working with in our sustainability plan is to expand the tree canopy.

[20:45] So there has been an opportunity on one of our streets that has a tree species that's really struggling.

[20:56] And so one of the things that we're talking about and we have one dead tree.

[21:00] So that may be one of the streets that we have been in discussions with the homeowner to see if any of the plants on the new list that was generated by the subcommittee.

[21:13] if there are any trees that we would like to try on that street.

[21:20] So just reviewing the idea of street trees,

[21:24] we are trying to expand the species that we're using in our street trees,

[21:32] and where there are options for adding variety within a street,

[21:39] if it's not a colon aid or a prominent street,

[21:42] we're doing that.

[21:46] So tree canopy, nicks been really wonderful helping me

[21:50] secure some of these new tree species.

[21:54] We're possible we're switching out to natives.

[21:57] So our London planes, we're trying the California

[22:01] natives sick more.

[22:04] And we think that may be a little bit more drought-tolerant,

[22:09] little bit less fussy than the one that we have in place now.

[22:17] Landscape and planting, you know, there has been a big thinking of number three in our list.

[22:24] Landscape and planting, we are trying when we introduce new, sorry, it's not in your packet here.

[22:32] We are trying to use natives and I think the main park, the plants that we're using in the area

[22:41] by the top lot, those are California natives and will see how they survive in a high-use park area.

[22:53] Also, we don't have a report this week on law and turf, but we do have our subcommittee that we will be working on.

[23:00] on understanding where we can remove non-functional turf

[23:06] and alternatives for how we might replant those areas.

[23:10] I think we can do that at our November meeting.

[23:14] One of the things in the sustainability management plan

[23:19] we talked about is making sure that the cities

[23:21] stay on top of maintaining high use areas

[23:25] and Hampton, I think, is a good example of a high-use area where we push the limits

[23:35] as much as we could for that artificial turf and then we're able to fund it in this fiscal

[23:41] year for replacement.

[23:45] The last item about climate change and resources, I wanted the Park Commissioner to know that

[23:53] We are working with our landscape contractor to see if there are rebates available to replace

[24:00] a gas mower for the big lawn area with there's some new technology out there for battery

[24:09] mowers that are more adaptive for big spaces and also longer running than just your normal.

[24:18] So we're working on that and I'm hoping to bring that back.

[24:25] So those were the items I have.

[24:26] So Garrett, if you want to make public comment.

[24:29] Yeah, let's open public comment.

[24:31] Excuse me.

[24:33] And you'll have three minutes.

[24:35] And check the microphone as usual.

[24:39] All right.

[24:40] Good evening, commissioners.

[24:41] Three minutes off.

[24:42] Speak fast.

[24:44] Implementation strategy.

[24:45] You can do the work first.

[24:47] And this is commission.

[24:47] know that's our dog parks, right? I mean that's why we're here tonight, even. So, and to

[24:53] do that with our current dog parks, I think you need to find the capacity we need, right?

[24:58] We are one short, and...

[25:00] We tried to implement this plan with the amount of dogs and what people have come to expect in those parks. One parked down, I don't think it'd be a worthwhile effort.

[25:07] So I think this commission, or Nancy, should look at other areas in town, assess them for sustainability. You have the plan now, so you can look at that bridge, you can look at other law and areas, you can look at other parts of town and apply those rules and see a viable space for additional dog parks.

[25:26] and then of course recommend that's to council.

[25:29] So the other strategy I would say is about the tables in the parks.

[25:35] Now I've come in to this commission, I don't think there's a sustainability element

[25:38] to that, and I think it's actually worse for sustainability of a parks.

[25:42] But it's in the plan as I understand it, so I would have this commission or staff come up

[25:47] with a rationale for what they're trying to sustain.

[25:51] The tables are just added to the plan in my opinion, it's no, I can't see it.

[25:55] any of the NFI's sustainability improvement that's going to achieve in our parks.

[26:00] So I would ask this commission again, as a strategy, identify that need so we can go

[26:06] there with tables wherever these other improvements in the park will actually make a difference.

[26:11] Because my anticipation is if you bring tables in the procedure, you will exacerbate the

[26:16] problem.

[26:18] I don't think there's proper enforcement by PD and Rec now and whatever conditions you see in

[26:25] part on the slopes, get fallen trees. It's due to the lack enforcement. So by all means,

[26:34] if you're going to bring in these tables, define what you want from proof. It's not in the

[26:38] plan now. If you just pop them in there and walk away, then problems will be worse.

[26:44] And I say that, particularly, I'll close on this, is that, you know, as I understand these tables

[26:49] and playgrounds, and these restrictions are the purview of police, department, and freck.

[26:56] I don't believe the park commission has a lot of say in that.

[27:00] You may look at their rules, but as well as why I say this commission should really look

[27:06] into what those improvements in our parks are going to do, because this is your one shot

[27:10] at the apples, I just speak, so I really recommend that as part of the strategy.

[27:14] But Nancy sounds like, you know, you're getting out of through some of these other elements,

[27:18] more trees, the worst places, Hampton, but again, I would think from this commission's perspective,

[27:26] look at those two elements, and because they are what the city needs.

[27:31] Lower PDM, particularly needs the dog right.

[27:33] They have lost a major asset, and I think the city needs to look into that with this sustainable eye.

[27:40] Great, thank you for your comments. I appreciate them. I appreciate your comments.

[27:46] Nancy, let's move on to item four, which is related, someone, because we're talking about

[27:53] capital projects.

[27:56] So, that's for the current, for the start of the deal.

[27:59] Sorry,

[28:01] I just wanted to get my phone by a timer.

[28:05] So I discussed with our public work director, and he recommended that we push this to

[28:10] in November because so much of our part commission is not available to hear, he thought

[28:17] it was a dialogue that the entire commission should hear.

[28:22] But so that first half, the facility capital projects will bring back to you in November.

[28:29] The second item, which is scheduling the annual report, I think it would be who this commission

[28:41] to really start thinking about it as soon as possible because the budget planning and

[28:49] the budget workshops come up fairly quickly and if we're presenting, I think they start

[28:56] in March or April, if we are presenting our request and they're more than likely will be

[29:05] a new public work director at that time in March or April, it's almost too late to kind

[29:13] of get it in there.

[29:14] So I think if we could get the report to the new public work director in February, that would

[29:23] be really ideal.

[29:24] So, I just wanted to make get it on the part commission calendar that we start working on there.

[29:35] Recommendations to council is, you know, sooner than we did last year.

[29:40] Okay. I agree. I think that makes sense. One question for logistical question would be,

[29:48] If we want to have a report that proposes or recommends a capital project that's in line with the sustainability.

[30:00] Master plan, for example, the priorities that are laid out in there. Slope stability, or irrigation,

[30:07] management, or something like that. You probably, in terms of brown act, you probably need

[30:13] to have a dialogue in an open session about ideas that commissions might have before doing that.

[30:20] So we need a couple of meetings.

[30:22] Okay. Would you like for the November meeting to have a discussion?

[30:28] I think so. I think I think what I would encourage and we can talk about this also in October,

[30:35] but in search commissioners too. Not October.

[30:37] Well, it depends on whether you want to have it in October or not.

[30:40] I would give commissioners a month their warning to read through the sustainability report

[30:47] and maybe come with some ideas about some things we might want to consider recommending to city staff

[30:54] for potential inclusion in the budget, realizing that, you know, we're making

[30:59] recommendation and we don't, we're not determinative of course, and that there's

[31:04] many other competing priorities, but if we had a particular priority or a

[31:08] particular recommendation that we wanted to highlight in that report, I think

[31:12] that'd be good to discuss early on. It sounds like maybe targeting the report to

[31:16] be given to Council of January or so.

[31:24] I think it would be great to start the discussion in October because we may or may not have a meeting in December.

[31:34] Yeah, we typically have a very short if we have one at all.

[31:40] Are there questions or comments on that item?

[31:47] I guess I've been reading about it and thinking about the El Nino,

[31:50] this is coming.

[31:53] And I was wondering maybe they could talk about this.

[31:56] If there are, you know, newer term projects that the city ought to be considering,

[32:01] you know, in anticipation of that?

[32:04] Yeah.

[32:04] I think we'll get to him on the agenda just in a second here.

[32:08] early as the next had to speak for a long time, unless we can fill a buster for 40

[32:12] five minutes.

[32:14] Yeah, I think that's wise.

[32:16] I think that's wise.

[32:17] We have talked a little bit, but I'll let Nick talk about some of our

[32:22] compost, uh,

[32:26] uh, waddles that we're thinking of using.

[32:30] Yeah.

[32:30] Any public comment on this?

[32:33] Absolutely.

[32:33] Yeah, I mean,

[32:40] the process I didn't think I proposed new ones, but I didn't make a good point.

[32:43] We'll be getting to that in upcoming meetings.

[32:46] Yeah, but no, I would just, I like your point, Tom, as I, you know, start the discussion now,

[32:51] and I would get the word out.

[32:52] I mean, I will tell people that, you know, this commission that wanted to fix the dawn part,

[32:58] we'll be looking for ideas.

[32:59] So I will be certainly, I don't know, but I think it's,

[33:03] And doing it in the sustainability plan, you know, is a good way to advertise it, right?

[33:10] You know, unless you kind of bring projects out to the public, bit visual projects in problems sites, it may just slip away.

[33:19] So I really, I'd like your point.

[33:20] Thank you.

[33:23] Jack.

[33:24] I actually like the idea of including sustainability report and there was the action items there and prioritizing it because it gives us it's more than just our voice or opinion it has a little whom behind it that someone will listen to it

[33:45] there's more than the park commission, this is a, you know, I'm going to think so, I think that's great.

[33:53] Okay, so Nancy, you'll schedule agenda items as appropriate for that?

[33:56] Yes, and I, I think we'll do it in October.

[33:59] Yeah, that's good.

[34:01] Okay.

[34:03] Next item is the maintenance report.

[34:12] Good evening.

[34:14] Your park staff has been very busy this past month.

[34:18] maintenance in our parks, meetings, and we also continue planning trades.

[34:22] We just recently planted four cherry trees on Cherry Walk, four dogwoods, and main park

[34:26] gilford area.

[34:28] One Persian ironwood on Bonita, two Chinese pistachio on Vista, and one Chinese pistachio

[34:33] on Magnolia that presumably a high school kid ran over.

[34:37] We were alerted to a tree that had been not over when high school started.

[34:41] On the homeowner, over there said, look like the kid was trying to pair a little park and

[34:46] one over the curb, and he took off, and the tree was uprooted when we got there.

[34:51] So, smaller Chinese pistachios tree, but it was replaced.

[34:54] We're about, that was right over here, like 500 block of Magnolia.

[34:57] Oh, right, right, right there.

[34:59] So, if you guys see...

[35:00] Anyone have any teenagers around with Tony Spastaskark on the board, guys let me know.

[35:06] Ture your moveals, not mention that one. Staff removed five dead trees throughout town.

[35:12] This last month, all these trees were dead. trees being small, stumps, not so,

[35:20] our contractor will meet needed to remove the stumps where trees once stood.

[35:23] Replacements will be added, so we will replace all these trees once were.

[35:28] The team kept up with the raising of the trees throughout town.

[35:32] We've been going around the schools.

[35:34] When school started, just to get the eye-poggers and head knockers,

[35:37] I've also noticed a lot of just fun driving around town

[35:39] that street signs and stop signs are blocked by low hanging limbs.

[35:43] So they'll continue on doing that in the next month, raising the trees.

[35:46] Summer limb drop did.

[35:47] Start up again this last month.

[35:50] Not too many, but the two that we did have was pretty significant.

[35:53] We had two large limbs, one on Hampton,

[35:55] Hampton and one on Sheridan. The one on Sheridan was a large lamb and with the three trees there that are repeat offenders, so they're on the watch list right now.

[36:05] There will be some hit safety pruning down to those three trees over there.

[36:09] Still on trees, two campers were removed last month due to the fact that we could not put sidewalk back without removing large butchers roots.

[36:17] These trees were located on Grand Avenue on Cambridge Way.

[36:20] three more liquid amortries are slated to come out on specific part of the same

[36:24] cyglock repair project. Again, where these trees were standing, they will be replaced.

[36:29] Lastly, we came across some vandalism in our main park.

[36:33] Looks as if someone had made a stencil and sprayed some political statements

[36:37] within our park, staff jumped on these sites and cleaned them up,

[36:41] look as if nothing was ever there. The lawns also were touched up again with the same

[36:45] That's a six million material at main park, nothing politically charged, just a big dead spot.

[36:52] Now I know you guys were mentioning the El Nino coming up.

[36:55] We are taking, we're starting to do sandbags right now and getting the yard cleaned up,

[37:00] just to have more stuff available in our yard this year.

[37:03] I know I'm looking at all the, what they're saying is coming right now.

[37:08] It kind of looks like we're on the fringe of it, but we still are making that preparation.

[37:13] So we're starting with the sandbags, I don't want to swamp the guys with all the sandbags and one week or two weeks, because it's a whole lot of sandbag and going on, which is not a bad thing.

[37:23] But you generally remove debris that might be blocking storm drains.

[37:28] We've done that and we went into the main park in Oak Creek where we go and we stockpile on the side during the season.

[37:35] That's all been removed already, we did that like two months ago.

[37:37] Okay, so that's all cleared out and ready to go.

[37:39] We'll hit that again though once the first storm is on its way,

[37:43] just to make sure everything's up and up.

[37:45] Nancy mentioned the models that we're gonna be placing with compost ones.

[37:50] So the ones that you're seeing right now, I believe we're gonna remove is the plan

[37:53] and we're replacing with compost models.

[37:57] So that's going to be one of the hot spots we're gonna be.

[37:59] I'm gonna have a guy on standby over there,

[38:01] standing at that one catch base and up on the stand,

[38:03] because that once that one goes everything goes.

[38:08] So the, I think one of the changes that's happened over the years is we get more and more compliance issues.

[38:18] And one of the compliance issues with, and it's all really, I support the philosophy behind the compliance.

[38:29] It's just sometimes hard to implement.

[38:30] So we have requirements for the city is supposed to use so many cubic yards of compost and mulch,

[38:41] and they have to be compost and mulch that is diverted from landfill, so it is reused material.

[38:49] We are starting to change our mulch to use that.

[38:53] Of course, one of the challenges is our old mulch had more fiber in it,

[38:58] And that's new mulch tends to move more.

[39:02] So, but we have to comply and use recycled material.

[39:07] One of the things that we use these compost,

[39:10] they're basically waddles, but they're filled with compost,

[39:13] is we can get credit for our compliance for that.

[39:17] Now, it's more work for Nick

[39:20] because these compost waddles are heavier.

[39:27] But I think they may stay in place a little bit better,

[39:34] so it's just one of those challenges, making sure that we meet our requirements,

[39:43] but they don't always are perfect fit for a small town with small books.

[39:49] what's the production capacity of those compost waffles like are they freely available or

[39:56] are they freely limited or you know I have a Denise has given me a

[40:00] Local supplier at the places like B. Green and some of our bigger landscapes suppliers, we have

[40:08] not found them so we're we're probably going to pre-order them and make sure that we have

[40:15] them on site and actually at the scene of that they're installed in advance. So we'll be switching

[40:21] out some of those.

[40:22] Yeah, because one of the obviously one of the recommendations of the sustainability plan was to look

[40:27] for these high-slope areas, and I know we're working on that in Dresina, but in main

[40:34] park there's several other areas that are similar, and if you could expand the use of

[40:39] waddles, especially in prelude to potential heavy rain fall events, which could happen

[40:48] in the know menu. That might be helpful for future cleanup and land movement, and that's

[40:56] So, I don't know what the potential is there, but something you guys can look at.

[41:02] I just have to find a good local supplier for Nick.

[41:06] Sure.

[41:06] Because it's haven't shown me yet.

[41:08] Any other questions or comments from anyone else?

[41:11] Go ahead, Jack.

[41:13] You mentioned Pacific liquid air pressure.

[41:16] I just want to make sure I understood.

[41:19] So, you said the liquid air pressure is going to be replaced.

[41:23] have the cheese been picked out or are they going to be replaced with liquid numbers?

[41:27] No, no, no, okay.

[41:30] I've planted one liquid amber in the 19 years of being here.

[41:33] That would twist in a lot of arms for that to happen.

[41:38] Liquid amber is never going to be replaced.

[41:39] I believe they're going to be going back with Chinese pistachio.

[41:43] Yes, because we've got power lines.

[41:46] And we've also got planting areas that are about two feet wide.

[41:50] So,

[41:56] the lower, well, it's really one block of Pacific has the beautiful canopy of liquid

[42:05] ambers, and they have just reached their limit, especially the south side where they've

[42:13] topped by PG&E, and there is some concern when they've been topped numerous times that

[42:23] causes structural issues with it. So the three trees that are being removed are all on

[42:30] south side and have all been topped. And those locations, the homeowners have agreed to

[42:36] replacement trees.

[42:39] As an editorial comment, I've always really liked the Chinese

[42:42] in front of our house.

[42:45] So I know they start out really small, but Mars is of a reasonable size and it's pretty

[42:49] tree and it's just messy for about a week or two.

[42:52] The gorgeous right now.

[42:54] Yeah, we're starting to go through it.

[42:56] It's interesting.

[42:57] It is one of the trees that's on double mountains trees for adaptive trees for a warmer climate.

[43:08] So they've got quite a list of trees, not all native and obviously Chinese

[43:13] pistachio or not native, but it's just nice to see that one of our predominant

[43:19] street trees is considered climate adaptive.

[43:24] Nick, I wonder if you could talk briefly about the project in

[43:26] Racina at the path replacement that was done a week or so ago.

[43:33] Just let us know what was going on there and why that needed to be done.

[43:36] Yeah, so we get a certain amount of money for Pathways and Parks every year.

[43:41] That was nominated as one of them.

[43:43] I was out there.

[43:43] We did the other side at the end of the fiscal year last year.

[43:48] And when I was there looking at what that could use it to.

[43:50] And I was an asphalt one.

[43:52] As fault pathways what happens to them is the roots will pop up right through.

[43:56] So easily.

[43:58] So we went back.

[43:58] We removed the asphalt.

[43:59] We went back with concrete.

[44:01] So it's a nice thick and edge.

[44:02] But the guys did really, it's a new contractor.

[44:04] that do a really good work for us.

[44:07] So yeah, that was the reason for it.

[44:08] It had tripping houses on it, had buckling and it had root

[44:11] starting to come out of it.

[44:13] Yeah, it looks nice.

[44:15] Yeah, so good.

[44:18] It's all my questions.

[44:20] Thanks.

[44:20] Thank you.

[44:22] All right.

[44:22] Next up is announcements, old business and consideration

[44:27] of future agenda items.

[44:28] I think we talked about some future agenda

[44:30] and it was already.

[44:31] Nancy, on old business, do you want to give us

[44:33] follow up on last month's agenda item or the push

[44:36] expected of the tree.

[44:37] So the tree that was on Cambridge, we did have

[44:41] Darya of Court Science come out and she confirmed

[44:45] that the structural integrity of the tree, the lean

[44:51] of the tree, she supported the removal and replacement

[44:55] with a more suitable tree.

[44:57] so that

[45:02] All

[45:05] right. Our next meeting is October 7th. So, Jack, go ahead, yeah. A couple more agenda item.

[45:23] I don't know if we could, I don't know if we could, I don't know if we could just set up a certain amount in a timeline that we could just kind of keep the process moving.

[45:37] that would be great and I'm interested in a lot, there's just, I'd like to have a discussion

[45:48] about enforcement of park rules.

[45:53] There is none. There is zero, and so there's no compliance.

[46:00] Yes, Nancy and I got into a little disagreement with some other members of the public.

[46:09] We happen to be at Dresina at the same time walking our dogs within compliance with the regulations and others were not.

[46:18] So that is a challenge that's definitely a challenge and this is such a good further discussions.

[46:26] Okay, so with all that said, our next meeting is Wednesday, October 7th at 530.

[46:33] We look forward to seeing you all there.

[46:35] Thanks, adjourned.

[46:37] Peace.

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