[0:00] All right, it's 630. We'll open the meeting. We'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance.

[0:05] I pledge to sign

[0:09] of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under

[0:16] God, individual, with liberty and justice are all.

[0:24] We have one executive session on the agenda, and that is personal personnel.

[0:33] You do.

[0:33] So two personels as anybody have any other need for an executive session.

[0:37] any other anything otherwise to amend the agenda? Motion to accept the agenda is a

[0:46] mandate. All in favor say aye. All in favor say aye.

[0:50] We have board minutes of September 2nd and liquor board minutes of September 2nd and

[0:57] may see any need for corrections, additions, deletions, stuff. Okay, town managers report.

[1:04] I received the Auto Creek engineering reports and photos from the Plain Road Project on September 3.

[1:10] I started going through them for the Paving Concerns.

[1:13] Koppies were in your packets and I had highlighted where they mentioned the Paving.

[1:18] I have not gone through all the photos, but I have an entire thumb drive if anybody wants to look through everything.

[1:25] Okay. That was the entire daily report.

[1:28] This is what was in your packet.

[1:30] All right,

[1:33] I looked through the entire zoning file for direct routes property because this came up in the last couple of meetings.

[1:38] The permits were all put in as residential. There's no commercial permits for that lot.

[1:43] And there have been permits for both eight footfensing and a garage previously, both of which have expired.

[1:48] And there's no mention of commercial use in the zoning files for this parcel.

[1:55] I included HP Fairfield's bill that was in question last meeting.

[1:59] It is for two knives, nuts, bolts and shipping from Maine for the arm mower.

[2:03] That's the big mower that does like tree whack and down.

[2:08] Our audit has been set for the week of November 9th.

[2:11] I've started scheduling budget meetings with department heads to prepare for a fiscal year 28 budget discussions already.

[2:17] hoping to give this luck board something October 7th. I don't know as it'll be a full draft,

[2:23] but it'll always be starting to walk through the building process.

[2:29] Chad and I have met to discuss concerns with Elm Street. He met with Jim Collin from District 3 V

[2:34] Trans for the Bullard Project. We have submitted the 1111 permit. Jim has asked for a better photo

[2:41] with better marking on distancing for the Bullards and everything and Chad and I have found some

[2:47] pricing already for the boards. We're thinking that we're going to need six of them.

[2:52] They're going to be about $600 a piece I believe and these are once it will be able to unscrew in the winter time and screw back in and they have plates so that they don't go nasty.

[3:03] I emailed Rotland Town in West Rotland regarding their local options tax.

[3:07] I had a very long conversation with Bill Sweet from Rotland Town.

[3:11] Western Ellen does not have well-cloption stacks, but Marianne is actually starting conversations with her select board about it too

[3:18] because they're starting to do a village redevelopment project

[3:23] and she's looking at that as well, a funding source for some of what they're looking to do there too

[3:28] but I left my notes from Bill Sweet in the meeting, you know, in my manager's report

[3:33] dollar general, I heard back from Zareemberg group that used to own the building, they don't

[3:41] own the building anymore. However, they're still in contact with DG and dollar general.

[3:46] I don't know what the difference is, but he differentiates between the two. He said he's

[3:50] talked to both of them. They are sending a contractor to fix the lights and start working

[3:55] on all of the deficiencies. So crossing my fingers in terms of that within the next couple

[3:59] weeks. We will see that being done. Zaremba Group said he can still be involved somewhat even

[4:05] though they don't own the building anymore. He's willing to kind of help if we really need

[4:10] it from him to light fires. Okay. So, there's a positive conversation. Good.

[4:19] Any questions,

[4:20] Rayan?

[4:23] Okay. Any slide-forward memory marks?

[4:28] No, I had somebody ask me, yes, yesterday. Under

[4:32] billboard done by the post office. It's getting hard for older people to read it. It's kind of,

[4:38] I don't know if it's the Plexiglass, it's so bad. It's a little discolored. The Plexiglass is

[4:43] demolored and can be replaced. He has to forgive himself. The Plexiglass is getting discolored

[4:48] and the actual bulletin board that was in there. The cork is starting to really fall apart.

[4:55] I will add it to the list because the one at Keith's the bottom is falling out of it. The

[5:00] It's a glass piece.

[5:02] I'm so excited.

[5:03] I'm so excited.

[5:04] So I had asked last winter, but we didn't have a good day

[5:07] that the highway guys could fix it.

[5:08] It was a snow-pllowing and everything last year,

[5:10] but I'll put it on the agenda for both of them

[5:13] to be repair.

[5:15] Yeah.

[5:15] The other thing I noticed over the wreck,

[5:17] our sign over the wreck, in the wreck by the parking

[5:21] just before the gate, that means it will move.

[5:24] That's going to fall in.

[5:25] I didn't realize how bad that was.

[5:27] Okay, which one?

[5:28] It's the one that's got like a little room for it just before you go into the swimming area. Oh, the one at that place. It's a sad sad shape

[5:36] That really needs to be replaced

[5:39] So it's something that

[5:40] Maybe it could look at that someday when it was raining and nothing to do

[5:45] Yeah

[5:47] But it is bad

[5:50] You kept in school

[5:53] Somebody I mean, it's it's really rough. I didn't really thought bad it was don't look down

[5:59] Rodney, ready to fall in.

[6:00] Sydney and I are going to be taking a couple of walks at the wreck.

[6:05] There's four different grants out. We're coming out for a wreck.

[6:09] So we're trying to get for trail improvements.

[6:13] One of them at least to help maybe cover part of the cost of the pickleball court.

[6:17] We do that has to be done.

[6:20] Trail maintenance trail upgrades.

[6:23] And there was something else that she and I had bravely talked about just to keep what we have going and we are going to have to look at, we have the ADA port a potty, but if we want to keep our bath house,

[6:36] get our bath house, ADA compliant with a door, we might have to do something there too. So we're all here at Grand Options for all of that to get fixed.

[6:47] All right yeah well I mean I guess so hopefully that'll help I know somebody

[6:54] had reached out to me about um street um it's just going to some concerns too

[6:59] about how it changes 25 to 35 but coming the other you know so coming from

[7:06] Doctor.

[7:07] Very fine.

[7:08] People not dropping down the third 25 I guess.

[7:13] Um...

[7:13] Okay.

[7:14] Chief just took note of that.

[7:15] I could tell.

[7:16] No.

[7:19] Okay.

[7:19] All right.

[7:20] Any public comments?

[7:25] Yes.

[7:26] Just something on what Mr. Hooker.

[7:30] Made mention of perhaps there is an eagle scout who could fix that.

[7:37] Yeah, because I believe that's you did it originally.

[7:41] Especially if there's a grant that will help subsidize the cost.

[7:47] Yeah, it could potentially be an eagle scout project.

[7:50] And I think if there's a local eagle scout, that's my thought.

[7:58] Yeah, okay. Thanks. It could also be a Girl Scout goal project.

[8:03] Something for community service.

[8:07] From somebody.

[8:09] And if it's not scouting, maybe there's another group that I don't know about that.

[8:14] Well, OV does their volunteer day every year. Also, community day.

[8:18] Thank you.

[8:20] This is the shop.

[8:22] The shop teacher there has done some really pretty terrific kit things.

[8:27] Yeah, maybe there's a group he knows about with funding already in place for supplies and he just supplies the kids in the supervision with the power tools.

[8:41] Sure.

[8:41] Yeah, piggybacking on that.

[8:43] There's enough people with this reaches on pegs.

[8:46] Maybe you'll see it there.

[8:48] Yep.

[8:48] There's no of a company to donate or they will donate funding for it.

[8:53] Yeah.

[8:53] You're an idea of being able to scout, right?

[8:57] What are you saying?

[9:01] Okay.

[9:02] Any other public comment?

[9:05] All right.

[9:06] All right.

[9:06] All business.

[9:10] Walling unit identification for grand list.

[9:13] Correct 170.

[9:15] That's the letter that is in your packet that we talked about last time being sent to

[9:19] Jill Remrick.

[9:20] Bill Shoulders.

[9:21] Yes.

[9:25] I typed up the letter and then I gave it to Lisa.

[9:29] She said it works good to her.

[9:30] So if something back to you all first, like me, if you would agree to it.

[9:33] Fine, if they have leases, fine, is that...

[9:37] I chose the one that would know what is pertinent information I have in that letter.

[9:40] I kept it short, sweet into the point.

[9:43] Yeah, it's not fair.

[9:44] It's not equitable, it's not okay.

[9:52] We already had a motion on it.

[9:53] No, not to sign it.

[9:54] You had a motion to draft it.

[9:58] I'll move the sign up.

[9:59] Sign it and send it.

[10:00] Okay.

[10:01] I'll favor say aye.

[10:02] Aye.

[10:05] And in junk ordinance violation letters for select board approval.

[10:10] So the first one under old business is a proposed solid waste order.

[10:15] This follows up the notice of violation that was sent after the August 16th meeting.

[10:22] Scott and I have both met with him.

[10:24] He's put in a permit for a garage.

[10:26] Doesn't plan on doing it until next spring, but this seems to be an ongoing.

[10:31] I'll put in a permit, but the problem is not going away.

[10:33] right right so this would be the next step Gary has reviewed both letters and he said

[10:39] he's fine with this letter if you want to sign it and send it. I mean it's better

[10:46] he's at least trying. He's trying it is better. But there's got to be some of it but there's still

[10:52] a blob in the center there's a big blob. Yeah but I think keeping on it is um important because

[10:59] I think it's important to keep on it.

[11:06] So that would be you all signing the letter again.

[11:15] We need a motion for that as well.

[11:17] A little bit closer to the letter.

[11:20] Okay.

[11:21] I'm all in favor say aye.

[11:22] All right.

[11:29] Well, let's do a skip.

[11:31] I can't even think about skipping it ahead.

[11:34] So we, okay.

[11:36] So is this, is this both draft?

[11:39] She's a draft local hazard mitigation plan.

[11:42] I'll review in discussion.

[11:44] The draft time plan is not Maggie, that'll be okay.

[11:48] All right, so draft local hazard mitigation plan for review and discussion.

[11:51] Hi Maggie, how are you?

[11:53] Hi.

[11:54] I'm good.

[11:55] I was just looking forward to seeing you.

[11:56] Can you hear me?

[11:57] Oh, okay.

[11:57] We can.

[11:58] Thank you. Yeah.

[11:59] All right.

[12:00] My apologies.

[12:01] I couldn't be the person.

[12:02] I had a bit of a last minute comment.

[12:05] I can't.

[12:07] But.

[12:07] Hopefully this will go real smooth.

[12:08] So for the sake of the public sector, I'm Maggie O'Brien,

[12:13] I am the Emergency Management Plan

[12:15] with the Rosalbury School Planning Commission,

[12:17] and I am here tonight to present the midpoint draft

[12:21] of the Pittsburgh 2027 local hazard mitigation plan.

[12:26] Specifically, the hazards identification

[12:28] and risk assessment section of the plan.

[12:32] So the working graph of this plan has been reviewed and approved

[12:36] by your local planning team for presentation tonight, and some of those folks are in the room.

[12:43] So we have Tom Editor Anne Reed, who's been leading the charge.

[12:47] We have the emergency management director, Matt Tromley.

[12:50] We have Fire Chief Phil Hempel, the Chief Joseph Minino, Chad Eugier, the Rogue Forman, and

[12:58] the Water and Whisperer Superintendent, Sean and B.

[13:01] So these folks have been really great work with so far.

[13:04] and I deserve some recognition for the for a lot of the work they had to put in a short period of time.

[13:12] So and I also just a quickly mentioned this work is made possible things to funding from the municipal planning grant,

[13:19] which was provided by the Vermont Agency of Commerce and Community Development.

[13:24] Just a little disclaimer I have to give as one of the agreements for that funding.

[13:28] And, again, thanks to Anne, for pursuing this opportunity with the loss of the FEMA funds that used to fund these plan updates.

[13:37] So you guys were able to get it in pretty quickly under the closing door there, but, um, so the midpoint draft should be included as part of your package.

[13:48] I also printed out copies of the FEMA planning review tool, um, that Anne should have handed you.

[13:53] So, this is essentially the rubric or crosswalk, but that blocks you through what the requirements are for this plan from Gamma and shows you where they exist in a current draft.

[14:06] So, since we're only at the halfway mark, the review tool is only halfway complete and the rest of it will be presented in its final form when I come back in front of the board in the winter time.

[14:20] So, just to give you a quick summary of where we are, so we picked off this plan update in the month of July, so not that long ago, really.

[14:31] We updated the information in the community profile section from the 2021 plan.

[14:36] And we had a risk assessment workshop to essentially look at the range of natural hazard impacts that sort of factor in determining our levels of vulnerability based on

[14:50] factors of, you know, how much risk doesn't pose to people, infrastructure, environment.

[14:57] Economy as well as how likely is it for these hazards.

[15:01] And so, tonight is on a significant milestone, as it marks the start of the call of review and comment period. So, this is the first opportunity that the community has to really look at what the team has done so far and weigh in and make sure that we are on the right track in terms of telling Pittsburgh story in relation to these sort of events that we are seeing happen more and more frequently.

[15:25] So, before I do a quick run-through of the draft itself, any questions so far.

[15:32] No.

[15:33] All right.

[15:33] Here I'm done.

[15:34] I see we have a smaller crowd tonight, so hopefully we can get through this pretty quickly.

[15:39] So, section 1 and 2 introduction of purpose, pretty straightforward on page 1.

[15:45] If you'd like to follow along, if not too much to say there, the only thing I want to point out is that

[15:51] Within the purpose paragraph, there is one line that says if one's adopted, this plan is not legally defined.

[15:59] I want to stress that because a Pima global hazard mitigation plan is not a mandate.

[16:07] It's not something every count has to have, but it does provide a lot of benefits.

[16:11] In terms of accessing funding, in terms of just integrating forward thinking into your operations.

[16:17] So nothing that is in this plan is a commitment to get done with in the next five years.

[16:23] It's just meant to be a row-bap of things the town could do or can consider to increase your resilience.

[16:33] So that moving on the TV profile.

[16:37] So I'd like to think of this as the part of the plan that describes what makes Pittsburgh,

[16:43] Well, Pittsburgh in terms of who is living there,

[16:49] and then, graphically, what if the population

[16:50] trends been like?

[16:52] We talk about land use and development patterns

[16:54] and how that shapes how the community footprint is today.

[16:59] And looking at everything from precipitation

[17:01] and water features, average temperature,

[17:04] and your utilities, transportation, and infrastructure,

[17:07] and so on.

[17:08] Really laying the groundwork for what assets

[17:11] If community has, so that we can get into that deeper dive, into what the internal impacts

[17:17] are from things like floods or wildfire, extreme heat, extreme winter storms, and other

[17:26] natural events.

[17:28] So I'm not going to go to a depth in that, but I would be happy for an expert set of ice

[17:34] or a thermature of anything looking good, although I did a really good job of doing that.

[17:39] So I'm sure everything's pretty airtight there, but second four plan of elements starts on

[17:44] KH7.

[17:46] So it provides a brief overview of who helped develop with the plan update and what the process

[17:52] looked like laying out the milestones at any time line, so table two, the plan development

[17:58] summary, gives a rough, guess a bit of our time line.

[18:04] And as you can see, it's a little, it's rather aggressive, really on it.

[18:09] average, these take about 7 to 8 months if we have a planning team eating about once a month,

[18:16] make sense of workshops and surveys in there to get public input, but it requires a dedicated

[18:22] effort to keep this on track. And since your folks' plan expired back in May, obviously we

[18:28] want to get this in as soon as possible to get those e-wrap benefits back. And then table 3, existing

[18:34] studies, reports, and technical information, not too much to say there, it's just essentially

[18:41] our sources cited, so here are all the existing sources that we use to ensure that the

[18:48] information in this planet is relevant and up to date and scientifically court. But the real

[18:55] me of the draft that we're hoping to get feedback on is the Hazard Identification and Risk

[19:01] assessment. So as I alluded to earlier hazards, the different range of natural hazards that we looked at were

[19:07] ranked based on the probability of occurrence and the potential impact on community assets. People

[19:13] infrastructure environment, local economy. So table 4 on page 12 shows you the results of that risk assessment and

[19:21] how that scoring was broken down and designed by the planning team. And Pittsburgh had quite the

[19:28] of highest risk hazards. So we have extreme cold snow and ice. We have flooding. So that's both

[19:34] in Engage and flooding, the rising of water on flat lands typically and then fluvial erosion,

[19:42] flat flooding, which can happen anywhere and can be very sudden, very fast. We have strong winds.

[19:49] We have extreme heat. We have droughts and we have invasive species and infectious disease.

[19:55] So, the reason why those are in this plant, they were not in the 2021 plant is because

[20:01] the 20, 20, 30 state hazard mitigation plant actually included these as hazards worth

[20:07] assessing.

[20:08] And so, one of the requirements for local hazard mitigation plants is to assess those hazards

[20:14] as well.

[20:15] And as it turns out, the scores for both invasive species and infectious disease were tied

[20:21] to work in a profile. In fact, that's where it is my first community to have an infectious disease

[20:27] for a file. So that was fun, catering around with that, and figuring out what that was

[20:30] looking like, and how to best describe it in the context of your community. So definitely let me know

[20:35] if I was accurate on that one. But the highest risk has it for a file. Maggie, I'm sorry.

[20:43] And sorry to interrupt, but we have a question. Yeah, how do you even come up with these

[20:50] probabilities being forced for extreme cold snow, flooding, where does this, underneath the tables?

[21:01] No, I understand what that means, but how do you, I haven't seen extreme cold or snow since the 60s?

[21:11] So, I'm sorry, some of this doesn't make any sense to me, that you're talking, we do get

[21:18] floods, I'll agree with that, wins, I guess, invasive species, yes, we've got that, infectious

[21:26] disease, where does that come from?

[21:29] So, when we were looking at it, we were looking at that, we have an older population, we

[21:34] weren't talking COVID or something like that, this is, you know, if in a disease came into

[21:39] would it have a massive effect in it could on our elderly population, which is a large portion of our community.

[21:47] So this is all if, if not, but they're saying a 75% probability in a year of infectious disease coming into our town.

[22:00] At least one chance in the next 10 years.

[22:05] This was at the end of May December, thinking about this kind of COVID pandemic level.

[22:10] I mean, that really only happens once a century.

[22:11] We were thinking more of your localized outbreak.

[22:14] So that can even just be, I think, SARS, I'm thinking, you know, we're unfortunately

[22:22] murdering these.

[22:23] We're just starting to come back into this country, and some other diseases from,

[22:29] let's take more diseases.

[22:30] I mean, those are becoming more common with climate change patterns, allowing those populations to provide, we have a lot of people going outside, line disease, vector for diseases.

[22:41] And another thing I'd like to point out, we did have some direct matter experts from the Vermont Department of Health and the Agency of Natural Resources, who helped provide so much needed contact and background information about what kind of hazards could occur in community and how often.

[22:59] and then what their potential impact could be.

[23:01] So for those subjects that are more broad and maybe not as easy to grasp,

[23:06] been such a quick analytical process, they're information proof

[23:10] really valuable and helping to inform the team's decisions.

[23:14] So I hope that helps answer some of those questions.

[23:20] Make sure you're in cold snow ice also is something where it can be,

[23:25] it's all long together because they're all very similar, right?

[23:28] So like, extreme windshield, like that is something we've seen this afternoon with your

[23:31] seasons.

[23:33] Having a major snowstorm, I mean granted, it's looked more like mixed precipitation

[23:37] in most recent years, but that can still create hazardous conditions.

[23:42] So it's all just a matter of perspective at the end of the day.

[23:47] I would yield to your planning team to describe their rationality at the end of the day,

[23:52] but hopefully that helps answer some of your digital thoughts there.

[23:58] So if there's other questions, I'll move on.

[24:04] So the highest risk hazard profile start on page 13, and these are a deeper dive into the community-specific risks and vulnerabilities based on those four categories.

[24:14] I mentioned really quickly, high-level, the profiles are all structured in the same way.

[24:19] So there's a general description of what the hazard is and what its history entails for both a brother county and at the town level.

[24:28] that data is available. We have the results of our public engagement, I believe, we had

[24:35] both the 70 survey responses, which, first of all, is good job of this the second time

[24:40] we've had and nothing can't even take these over. So what did people think about this hazard

[24:46] and how often are likely to occur? What were their major concerns in terms of, you know,

[24:58] challenges, you have people who rely on medical devices that suddenly can't rely on those

[25:04] anymore. So where's the risk there? We look at the location and the extent of where these

[25:10] hazards are likely to occur, we also consider not only impacts for the present time, but

[25:17] looking forward to the future, especially with how fast the weather is changing.

[25:25] And so we're

[25:28] And then we have a hazard history, having all-feet profile with past occurrences and damages

[25:35] where applicable, especially for those events that were better laid to clear disasters.

[25:39] And then at the very end of section five, page 31 of a vulnerability summary.

[25:44] So we iterate who, what, and where is at risk from these different hazards?

[25:50] As well as the future outlook.

[25:51] So, what can we expect to continue to see if we don't give something to address our candy marvelous?

[26:02] So, that's the book of the plan that will be back on, but we do also have a public outreach engagement summary that we call county C,

[26:12] We're doing the plan starting at page A at Dash 8, so the team that came up with a community engagement goal and strategy, and we also had a list of what we call whole community partners that were offered the chance to participate in the planning process.

[26:28] So you might recall receiving a few email blasts from me, and announcing this in part milestone, and opportunities of seeking feedback, and we will continue to do that as we go through the process.

[26:40] If you're curious about what some of this outreach looks like, beyond those emails last being through those as well, some screenshots and the initial survey results for the hazards of what folks thought the most impactful areas were for instance for flooding.

[26:57] I got a lot of D-Boast, D-Boast, D-Boast Hill,

[27:00] the room in the film street answers

[27:02] that whatever I'm like, oh, we should probably call it cozy

[27:04] because these are showing up a lot.

[27:08] So, but yeah, so obviously it's a little hard to get feedback

[27:13] for this tonight, it's very dense,

[27:15] which is why we have a two-week public comment area.

[27:18] So, starting tonight and going through October 7th,

[27:22] we are collecting feedback.

[27:24] It can be done in two ways.

[27:26] it can either be emailed to myself or am,

[27:29] so that's Maggie at Rutland or PSC.org.

[27:36] And for, alternatively,

[27:38] I would encourage the board to have a sloth

[27:40] on the October 7th agenda

[27:42] for people to submit their comments

[27:44] and person at the English.

[27:45] We'd like to have those multiple avenues

[27:47] because we know not everyone is tax savvy.

[27:50] So, it would also be a good opportunity

[27:52] for local officials to dispense their initial reaction.

[27:56] and comments and so just any weeks that could be made or anything like that.

[28:04] I will mention I unfortunately cannot be present at this October 7th meeting.

[28:08] In fact, I'm struggling multiple local hazard regulations fans right now

[28:12] and screws varies.

[28:13] Final draft.

[28:14] I happen to be doing that now.

[28:16] You and troops very need at the same time, same day, so.

[28:22] So I had to actually just think around a little bit to make that work.

[28:25] So, while I won't be present, my trust and to relay the feedback back to me whether that's from members of the public or from you folks on the board.

[28:36] So, the draft itself is available for viewing as the town office.

[28:40] If you'd like to view physical copies, we will also have a landing page where you can access a PDF that you can read and download and print out for yourself.

[28:49] of you'd like. So the link for that is tiny url.com slash pitsford-lhmp27. The other thing I wanted to

[29:02] call that a Maggie Bowdozer. The other thing I wanted to call that a Maggie Bowdozer.

[29:06] Yes. Yes. I did provide some of that material for you. We will have it at the town office. We will also

[29:12] have in large versions of the risk map in several locations in town. So it's 8 by 5 by 11.

[29:22] So 8.5 by 11. So obviously it's a little harder to see some of the circles where we

[29:27] delete the rows that like most frequently have plenty problems. So thought it would be

[29:32] a benefit to have those larger maps so both can actually come in and see, you know, like,

[29:37] This area that I know is a problem is that I can't point it out on this map and if it's not then

[29:44] You know what would that look like if you were to add that so we welcome that be back too

[29:49] So

[29:50] Almost done I promise next steps really quick. So

[29:54] At your next meeting on October 7th

[29:57] The board will hear in person comments provide play

[30:00] And then be back in potential revisions and indicate whether the planning team is good to move forward with the development of the mitigation strategy.

[30:07] I don't need a formal motion per say. I just need to reflect it in a minutes that you guys are good with the planes presented or if there is minor tweaks we need to make.

[30:17] That will address those in move forward.

[30:19] The planning team will then reconvene to address call the comments received before our

[30:24] articulating a meeting goal, so what we hope to do to address these vulnerabilities that

[30:30] we outlined, examining her and community capabilities to achieve that goal, and evaluating

[30:36] a broad range of mitigation actions that are acceptable and practical in the town of

[30:40] implement.

[30:41] We will have a second round of surveys once we've determined which actions that we will

[30:47] That will be part of our plan, our strategy plan, and that right now is targeted for about

[30:54] mid-November to mid-December.

[30:56] We will have that round open.

[31:00] We will then develop the action plans, carry out the chosen medics and action actions, examine

[31:04] how we will integrate these into existing plans and procedures, that the town is already

[31:09] undertaking, and analyze any shifts in the mediation strategy that any changes that may

[31:14] occurred since the last time this plan was done.

[31:18] So then we'll go through the same process, rinse and repeat another round of review and approval

[31:22] by the planning team.

[31:24] I'll come back in part of the board in January with a complete draft plan and a complete review

[31:29] tool.

[31:31] And there will be another public comment period and this will be the kind of the last opportunity

[31:35] for the public to weigh in on the plan.

[31:39] And then at this point, we are anticipating submission of complete draft to the state or the

[31:44] initial review process by early to make that be working.

[31:48] So I know I just threw a lot at you, but are there any other questions or things I can answer?

[31:54] We will have a draft fan on the landing page for a long off.

[31:58] I will update that and the email blast will go out tomorrow.

[32:02] And we should already have players, I believe, post it right in.

[32:06] And for me, people about where to find the draft and how to comment.

[32:08] Okay, perfect.

[32:10] So yeah, with that I will, I will yield to the board for any questions or initial reactions you folks have.

[32:19] Anything right now? No. I guess yeah, not right now, but thank you so much.

[32:24] That was a lot of information.

[32:26] We will now have to get rid of a lot of questions.

[32:29] I'm sorry, which is why I like to have the draft in your package.

[32:33] Like, you folks have two weeks to read through this pretty thoroughly.

[32:36] that guest did talk about it and hopefully gain input from the public as well.

[32:42] One change that we've had compared to the last plan update is that the bar for public engagement

[32:47] that got raised pretty significantly. So hence a public summary of public engagement strategy and

[32:53] having all of these things outlined. But it's paid off. We've seen a lot more people getting interested

[32:58] in the topic. I think it's especially relevant as we see these storms become more common. And

[33:03] people really wanted to make sure their experiences are heard and thought about as we think about candy

[33:09] resilience.

[33:12] But certainly, feel free to reach out if you have any comments yourself on the

[33:16] draft plan as well.

[33:17] My inbox is open and thank you so much for making time for me on your event tonight.

[33:23] Yeah.

[33:23] Thank you, Maggie.

[33:24] Have a good night.

[33:25] Thank you.

[33:25] Yes, you too.

[33:26] Thank you.

[33:27] Bye.

[33:31] I'm just going to go back to go on through the order so no junk ordinance violation

[33:43] letters for approval there's two of them and they stem from one of them stems from

[33:51] our site visit that chief maniel and I went to and the other one is from citizen

[33:59] complaints several of them that live upon that road.

[34:05] Oh, that's a new one.

[34:07] Do

[34:17] you need coffee?

[34:20] Okay.

[34:21] Do you need to find my coffee?

[34:22] Where?

[34:23] I have them.

[34:25] Well, here's one.

[34:27] Here's the new one.

[34:28] One we haven't seen before.

[34:29] So these are both, both of these notice of violations are the same verbage as the ones that were signed on the August 16th meeting is just different people.

[34:45] We're trying to stay the same format and consistency with our processes. I know it's a shocker.

[34:55] And I will say Scott did a lot of the heavy lifting on these for me and has the templates now

[35:00] So he's been a massive help on this endeavor. You know, I'm really that's really good

[35:13] So you just need to make a motion to sign up with your willing to sign up with your willing to sign up with your willing

[35:18] Further questions discussion all favors the eye

[35:26] Um, the next thing, so with these, yep, something that probably would help us, maybe a couple

[35:35] pictures just so we can see what it is we're talking about, because I, you know, one of

[35:40] them is kind of tucked around and back where you can't really see it, I don't know about the

[35:44] other one. The other one's right on the roadside, can't myself. Okay, wow. Yeah, I know you're right,

[35:48] one that's weird about loft and I you don't can't see it from the house so yeah pictures

[35:55] really nice okay I can do that going forward okay elect delegate for BLCT annual meeting I

[36:02] thought we already did that no we did it last year we haven't done it this year isn't there

[36:06] special meeting there was a special meeting you're doing it I can't see okay this is the annual

[36:12] meeting it's the VLCT passive verb which I think we're members of all three their annual meetings

[36:18] the afternoon of October 6th. So. I'll make a motion to make in our voting delegate.

[36:27] Well, if there was the eye.

[36:34] Okay, draft town plan. So I just wanted to get this in front of

[36:38] you before we tried to finalize it. This is about 90% done from the planning commission.

[36:45] They've been working with Will Austin at Rutland Regional Planning Commission to get this done because he knew I didn't recognize anything. Will started in April or May.

[36:57] He's fairly new but he'd been a planner before this and he's working with Sean and with Devon there.

[37:06] But he has done town plans in the past and is actually working on several of them right now.

[37:12] He's been very good at working with our planning commission, listening to their wants-needs desires.

[37:18] I have gone through this with a time-fine tooth comb with a red ink twice on will, and submitted to him my barrage of notes.

[37:27] No page numbers.

[37:28] I did to comment.

[37:29] He sent it.

[37:30] After another page, after I gave you guys the copy, I emailed you on the bill. You lost the page numbers, and so he did email me a draft yesterday that does have the page numbers.

[37:42] So in the future there will be page numbers again. He had taken out. We had a working copy. That's why there's a gray sidebar. We had a working copy with all the red lines. What was being added, what was being taken out.

[37:54] and it was getting pretty cumbersome so the planning commission asked him to do a blocked copy

[38:00] fixing everything taking out all the red lines and crossed out and just having what it's going to

[38:05] read when we're done so I wanted to give this to you ahead of time because it will be coming to you

[38:11] like I said this is about 90% complete they're meeting September 24th I believe at 7pm

[38:17] to work on this and a new version of the enhanced energy plan because enhanced energy is supposed to

[38:24] and add them to your town plan, and we'd like to just do them both at once for the approval

[38:28] process, so we're not warning meetings back to back.

[38:33] So Will has just released the version 7 of the EEP, if anyone wants to see it, I'm more

[38:41] than happy to give you a copy or email it to you.

[38:45] And this one's about 90%, but we wanted a chance for this look, we're to see it, what was

[38:49] finished in case anybody has any comments. Feel free to read through it if you see anything

[38:53] But you would really like to see changed if you could give me feedback before the 24th meeting, so we can have them for that meeting that would be amazing

[39:02] Just to keep the process going and get the ball rolling to finalize

[39:06] This

[39:09] way to get

[39:10] For copies of these maps like enhanced them, so they are very good. I'm very good. Yeah, I can ask will for do you want like larger versions so that you can see it better

[39:22] to be louder. They just need to be sharper. They're all kind of fuzzy and you can't see roads.

[39:30] You can't see. I mean, I can guess where out our creek is, but you, you know, you can't see really.

[39:37] Yep, all email will tomorrow. The 24th of this month is the next, is the next planning commission meeting at 7pm.

[39:47] I believe there's a committee meeting at 530 that day too. So if somebody wants to do a wreck and planning commission,

[39:52] Yeah. If you're free to stop by, you can say hi to me and sit on my meetings with me.

[39:59] But I just want you to have a heads up before it came time to hey we need our approval. Yes.

[40:08] And then it goes through the original process. It does go through the regional process. I will say

[40:13] I was at a Board of Commissioners meeting last night. We did two. We did walling furs and bencens.

[40:20] They're now looking just to make sure that you have what the statute will totally necessary in your plans.

[40:26] So those with those two towns in particular to just not where they did not issues they were not issues

[40:31] So and I've sat in on a couple earlier in

[40:35] Twenty twenty six and they all met compliant wise with

[40:39] Statutes so they were all approved. I just remember how it went with the last life

[40:44] It's real it did

[40:50] All right, cool

[40:53] Are reading material

[41:03] I can tell you the first time I went through the town plan, it took me about three and a half hours of redlining to get through it editing it as I went.

[41:13] Now I do want to actually do want to do.

[41:14] And I have gone through the lamp a couple of times and that's a couple hour read minimum.

[41:20] They're pretty dense.

[41:21] All right. Okay.

[41:27] All right. Next on the agenda is going draft request, which I

[41:36] don't

[41:36] not sure how we, it probably may be shouldn't have even gotten on the agenda because we do,

[41:41] it's in violation. The date is in violation on our policy. Because I forget how long we said,

[41:46] we needed, did we want 30, 30 days? 30 days prior. And I received the message on Fridays.

[41:56] It was forwarded to me Friday, September 4th, is she aware of that, I have no idea, I didn't know if she came in and talked to somebody.

[42:09] She talked to me afterwards and she's like, why most of that? Because I've talked to Billy Hempel and the fireman are going to help me and I said, well, we have, it has to be approved by the select for before.

[42:20] Yeah, but you can do that and there's paperwork that's we filed with the state

[42:23] Right, so I know I think I think I think that even if we I have violated our own policies and gave you know the permission

[42:30] Give it a permission. I still think the state level that would get done in time

[42:34] Yeah, so I have it here and I hold chief and you know to hold off on signing it until I just left board decision tonight

[42:41] I think I think maybe reach out to her and see if she's open to another date within the time frame that which we want to have it

[42:48] Sure.

[42:50] I'll tell October what and for some library has theirs.

[42:54] That one.

[42:56] So I don't know if this year that would work at all.

[43:01] I can't.

[43:03] I feel bad.

[43:03] It's good cause, but it's a good cause.

[43:05] It's certainly a good cause.

[43:08] But they've kind of given us no choice.

[43:11] I mean, because even if we approve it tonight, the odds of the state of ruin are getting

[43:15] through it.

[43:19] Yeah, it's on a Friday at four in front of a low throw.

[43:24] Yeah, that's not ideal. People are trying to get home and they're not going to be happy.

[43:31] They're being held up.

[43:32] Well, they'll go on our street and...

[43:36] Yeah.

[43:37] Yeah, but he can only write up one of them.

[43:40] you might get to if he was lucky of the

[43:47] cruiser medium

[43:49] yeah i mean i guess yeah i don't know we're very sorry we'd like to

[43:54] you know definitely again very very worthy

[43:59] cause but we yeah it's to

[44:02] we really need 30 days

[44:05] and that you might want to let her know that two which he that will not only that but

[44:09] Like when she does come back, again, and it sounds like maybe not this year, based on timeframes, but that, for that year,

[44:20] probably a week, early morning, during the weekend is better than Friday, right when people are getting out of work.

[44:28] Yeah.

[44:31] And I did see that she is doing one Saturday, the 26th in Rottland City.

[44:35] Oh, so maybe that's why, maybe they're just, I know, going around.

[44:38] And they're doing it because it's the childhood cancer awareness month, so they're trying to hit them.

[44:42] Oh, I see, yeah, I know.

[44:44] Yeah, tell her, we really are sorry. I mean, that's just, we just can't.

[44:50] Okay. But we can certainly set it up for, in the spring or year for now, you know.

[44:57] Sure. And the sooner she gets it in soon.

[45:07] Okay, any questions in the orders that I know there was some?

[45:16] I don't think. I don't think that one's on you.

[45:19] Yeah.

[45:20] Yes, it is.

[45:21] What is on here?

[45:23] Oh, there it is right there.

[45:24] Oh, there it is right there.

[45:25] Oh, yeah.

[45:26] That's why he ended up doing it.

[45:41] Yeah.

[45:41] Yeah. I mean, I guess it's done.

[45:43] But I want to know if that hydraulic pump actually failed.

[45:48] And they just top the oil off.

[45:50] That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[45:52] You should have checked into that.

[45:54] You know that they should have flushed that system out, everything.

[45:58] I wonder if they did, but it just said, on his right I said, topped it off, which to

[46:06] me isn't drained and flushed.

[46:10] I lost.

[46:14] The other ones I had, there were three for the, I don't even know how you pronounce that.

[46:21] one-one-grin dodge.

[46:24] Wonder again, those are the ones for the police crew, which cruisers.

[46:28] Right, you got one inspection with two-one-in-fifks.

[46:31] They're not inspections, while they were inspections, but they were also repairs.

[46:34] Oh, yeah.

[46:35] I've got to right here.

[46:39] So do we have three derango?

[46:45] So, we do have three derango, so we didn't never got rid of them.

[46:51] We haven't yet.

[46:52] So, those things are money to it.

[46:55] They were both for the 22 and are all three invoices were for the 22 and 23 Deringos.

[47:02] The 23 Deringos had to have a driver side headlight assembly done, and that was the one that was 1634-84.

[47:16] The headlight alone was 1220 or 20 of that.

[47:20] And then the 2023 Dodge Durango, the air conditioning wasn't working, so they had to charge that, and then the 22 Durango wasn't starting, so they had to push it into the shop,

[47:40] Couldn't locate the shift cable up-pitted police vehicle batteries at almost 13 volts removed

[47:46] lower skid plate and lower front fascia panel to access.

[47:50] Start a motor found B plus cable at starter was loose and blowing fused in the PDC that

[47:54] powers up starter relay.

[47:56] This acquired cable starter looks clean, replaced fuse for third time, now starts right up

[48:01] as designated starter looks clean, braided cable strap, clean and not corroded.

[48:05] Any

[48:31] questions in the orders?

[48:35] All right.

[48:35] Then let's recess as select the order.

[48:38] Open up as the liquor board.

[48:40] We have two applications.

[48:46] So we have Moose is Pub.

[48:48] This is one we wanted.

[48:49] We didn't want it for more information.

[48:52] So we got more information.

[48:54] Okay.

[48:54] It's on the back pages.

[48:56] Highlighted doors highlighted.

[48:59] It's for the September 26th.

[49:05] During the Saturday events of the Jeep weekend,

[49:07] they're going to provide beer and wine service during Saturday events of the Jeep weekend.

[49:12] On festival, Pittsburgh Village Farm.

[49:17] That's September 26th.

[49:25] And it's 12 to 6 that day.

[49:40] So they have their own staff monitoring.

[49:44] I

[49:56] have in within there the Pittsburgh Village Farms zoning event permits they have a specific

[50:03] place that is designated for alcohol consumption and it's I don't know if it's barricaded

[50:09] fenced if they put up ropes for the day just like what we do at Pittsburgh Day we have

[50:15] defense scenario.

[50:23] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we didn't have the dates and then also, yeah,

[50:31] I guess the violations would give pause.

[50:36] Yeah, Dolores does know the person and says that

[50:39] they're trying to rebuild their life. So she talked highly of them. Okay.

[50:54] And then the other one is for September 20th, 4 to 10 p.m. at Pittsburgh Village Farm, and this is for their fundraising dinner that they're doing at the Pittsburgh Village Farm.

[51:17] And it doesn't matter why don't they use the same

[51:22] all the time.

[51:25] I think.

[51:26] Is it just a scheduling thing or something?

[51:28] It might be a scheduling thing.

[51:30] It might be because Jeep weekend,

[51:33] Megan Fox does a lot of the planning for that,

[51:35] not necessarily puts for Village Farm for it,

[51:37] but it's being held up.

[51:38] It puts for Village Farm.

[51:39] Oh, okay.

[51:41] And the one for the 20th,

[51:43] it's actually someone that is a friend of Pittsburgh Village Farm

[51:46] now newly on their board or something and they're willing to do because this one's a catering

[51:51] permit and this one's

[51:56] a, well they're both catering permits but it's just, I think it just

[51:59] happens to be who knows who, well, should do a part of the segment. All right, all the favors say aye.

[52:06] I come

[52:10] out of liquor board back into select board and unless there's anything else that I missed or any

[52:19] need to sign all these orders. I know it's out of order but I want to do this before you

[52:25] guys go into a executive session. Now's your time to sign, Lisa.

[52:30] You have no idea how I'm going to shine here. Local hazard mitigation plan. When it's finalized, look at you, because you'll, will it be part of the town plan?

[52:43] It's not the town plan. There's two different things. There's a town plan, and there's a local hazard mitigation plan.

[52:49] Two separate things, local hazard mitigation plan has to be renewed every five years. Town plan is every eight years.

[52:57] Okay. Sweet. The other question I had was, I don't need any answer now. I kind of want

[53:04] a lot that out there. The last time I attended a town meeting, we all feel with some

[53:10] conversation about what acute town this is and not having businesses and how lovely it

[53:16] is to drive through town. Can we talk about the cow building? Oh boy, can we? Can it be? I mean,

[53:26] the house just down the street from here when it burned somehow something got done that got

[53:33] started here and I I don't know the detailed that was a while ago so I want to rehash

[53:40] old thing but it really is an I saw I drive through at 6 o'clock in the morning and it's

[53:49] Just I mean it was ugly when it was well-capped but now it's fallen into disrepair and it's an i-sore.

[53:59] Unfortunately we don't have a condemned building policy or a health hazard policy or anything like that for that kind of building.

[54:08] I have talked to the owner of the building. She is not willing at this time to sell it.

[54:13] or

[54:16] um

[54:17] may have it anyway

[54:18] she does not have the ability at the time at this time to rehab it

[54:22] I have tried talking to her

[54:24] it's going to be one of these ongoing conversations I think

[54:28] but I have been talking to the owner of this

[54:31] it is too bad because I mean somebody would fix it up

[54:35] is there anything through some

[54:38] They were works of western not not neighbor works of western Vermont, but something like that that they could

[54:46] Take the all things down and slap the coat of pink dot, right?

[54:51] Just we go. We don't have any sanding to tell them how to

[54:55] Keep their property. Unfortunately because it's not like just junkpiled up outside of it

[55:00] No, the mowing. No, I mean we don't have anything in our current ordinances, but I might think we might want to consider

[55:06] You know

[55:07] That seems like a pretty bare minimum.

[55:10] Could that be a health issue?

[55:11] Could be a meeting in the mosquito breeding grounds?

[55:13] It could be. I don't know.

[55:15] Push the problem.

[55:16] But I will look to see what we can add for.

[55:19] I mean, if we can take it, if I say wave, not it, not me.

[55:24] But if we can take it and see if there's, like, a mouse and rat problem,

[55:31] it's certainly been empty long enough for there to be a potential health issue.

[55:36] the neighbors, you know, you throw that from the neighbors. I haven't heard anything while

[55:40] rocks there. Yeah, it is, unfortunately, though, the house right next to it is very

[55:45] well maintained. Yeah, and the old McConnell house across the street got really

[55:51] though, you know, sold for dirt keep and somebody poured a lot of money into it and flipped it

[55:59] for more than three times what they bought it for. So I'm just kind of thinking, you know,

[56:05] the neighborhood seems to be revitalizing itself and then there's this house.

[56:11] Yeah, you know, it is.

[56:12] So I guess she just doesn't want to sell and that's we can't force her to sell and we can't.

[56:18] Can't force her to paint the house and

[56:24] maybe maybe Tommy can take some time and go see if there's a investigation.

[56:32] Not having to get somebody younger than you fall there, I didn't pay up my court of cookies yet, so, you know, you still owe me a dozen.

[56:45] You owe me a couple of hours.

[56:46] I forgot that.

[56:47] No, I know.

[56:49] I know.

[56:50] I mean, years ago was that?

[56:52] I've been out of that house.

[56:54] I've been a years now.

[56:56] Long time. Long time. Long time.

[57:00] Anything else?

[57:01] Nope, that's it.

[57:03] No, I'm going to vacate the promises.

[57:05] Because y'all are going to go into exactly a second.

[57:07] All right.

[57:08] Okay, I have a good night.

[57:09] Okay.

[57:10] All right.

[57:11] Then I will take a motion to go into executive session.

[57:14] In accordance with one VSA, 313A,

[57:17] we're a premature general public knowledge

[57:19] will clearly place the municipality

[57:20] a person involved at a substantial disadvantage

[57:22] to discuss the appointment

[57:24] employment or evaluation of a public officer or employee provided that a public body must make the

[57:29] final hiring or appointment decision and explain its reasons for the decision and open meeting.

[57:34] One VSA 3313 A3 to include the town manager.

[57:41] Okay, all in favor say aye.

Pittsford Select Board

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