[0:00] Thank you for bringing me in. I'm already sorry to get. You're good. Thank you. Thank you. We'll call the order. The board of directors, meeting is the Metropolitan Water District of Pleasant Grove. Pulling public meeting at 5 p.m. Wednesday, March 18th of 2026 in the city hall conference room at 70 south 100 days, Pleasant Grove, Utah.

[0:28] This is a public meeting. Anyone is invited to attend.

[0:31] and indicate that they've excused

[0:35] Schring-Mail's board member and Craig Vinker.

[0:41] Craig Vinker has some other commitments.

[0:45] He'll have Paul on the line with us on the telephone.

[0:50] Head of board members are present.

[0:53] Prison also is Wendy, Assistant Secretary of the board.

[0:57] And Denise serves as a finance director

[1:11] I

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[9:31] a one thirty four. I make less money than friends who fairly

[9:35] pass high school. Good for you.

[9:41] Okay. That's it. That's it. He's a good attorney. I just have two

[9:51] comments on that. Why is the lock a key but the clothes is a freezer. I bother me the

[9:59] whole time. Are we putting a body in there or what's the symbolism. And it showed

[10:07] somebody absent from the meeting. It's like a hospital bed. We have to be there.

[10:20] I thought

[10:21] Any other comments?

[10:24] Seeing none of what I have number two to do.

[10:27] I approve of a quarter one through the Metropolitan Water District Financial.

[10:34] I can't comment.

[10:36] Not too much there.

[10:39] So, gave me the first quarter and the second quarter.

[10:42] So, we had some cash in the water.

[10:46] And then we purchased some shares.

[10:51] So our biggest cash in the world is we've had quite a few, all of our apartments, I was

[11:01] 200, really 39,000. That was a pretty good one. Other than that,

[11:13] we've done some acquisitions

[11:16] in about 110, so not tons, but I think we're going to talk about that. So we've just had

[11:23] to chair for just oh did that's not on here probably because it's a

[11:27] December yeah okay yeah so we'll come out there of which PGIC you

[11:38] know if any

[11:39] trans meal the only trend I've noticed is that there are other entities who've

[11:47] now started buying PGIC shares that by gentlemen's agreement did not buy

[11:55] until now. And so there's other people willing to purchase those.

[12:05] It's only one.

[12:08] Yeah, one entity. Yeah, that's a pretty big entity.

[12:17] With deep pockets. So,

[12:23] well, I would set forth most of that. We approved the quarterly financial statements.

[12:29] motion by behind the approval of the courty.

[12:32] All seconded. Seconded by President DeSkashman.

[12:40] Seeing that, I was in favor of the AI.

[12:43] What?

[12:44] Pleasant fellows.

[12:47] Any abstentions?

[12:49] Paul, do you want to vote on for the record?

[12:51] Yeah, I'm good.

[12:52] I was going to say aye.

[12:53] I was just going to thank you.

[12:56] Thank you, Paul.

[12:58] Motion carries unanimously.

[13:00] I remember I did land that roll call, not all the roll is 20, you know.

[13:05] I know that one is not going to be to make it a roll call.

[13:09] But I know number three with you on approval in the minutes.

[13:12] November 12, 2025 meeting.

[13:20] We're distributed prior to our meeting.

[13:22] Yeah, I repeat you, I might have seen it.

[13:24] I didn't have any correct answers.

[13:27] So I'm going to hit an outstanding job in a lot of detail.

[13:31] So I may recommend that we approve the match in November 12th, this is going to be my meeting.

[13:36] I'm motioned by Marty to approve the match.

[13:38] It's presented.

[13:39] I'll second by Brian.

[13:43] Further discussion.

[13:45] Seeing those in favor say aye.

[13:48] Aye.

[13:49] Those opposed.

[13:50] Aye.

[13:51] I've got the record scope all over the ass.

[13:55] Any abstentions?

[13:56] No.

[13:58] Motion carries unanimously.

[13:59] So I put it item number four, acquisition of North Union staff for advanced water shares.

[14:07] That's money to put that on the agenda, because of the disillusionment of North Union water company.

[14:16] Those shares we held, North Union President Grove held 28.74 shares.

[14:24] and a pump water board held 54.8 to 2.4 share total of 83.56 to 4 shares.

[14:37] Pleasantville Irrigation Company held 200 shares with North Union.

[14:42] Here can you give me those numbers again the first one you said there?

[14:46] PG.

[14:47] Yeah.

[14:48] 28.74

[14:50] to FPG City, Metropolitan Water Board, Pleasant Grove, 54.2.

[15:00] And eight, two, two, four,

[15:04] for a total of eight, three point, five, six, two, four. I go too fast. I'm warning.

[15:12] And pleasant

[15:13] growth irrigation company held 200 shares of North Union water. Now we're all those shares, North

[15:20] Union. Yeah, for all of us. They're not. They're not probably. Now was the disillusionment of the North

[15:27] Union. The actual water ride is nearly so aptly made aware of. I just saw we had water certificate.

[15:38] It's hidden North Union on it. I wasn't growing the discussion was over. I'm out of this.

[15:45] I asked the translators and the approval ban for our shares. So they're in the process of doing

[15:51] I wanted to have the joint meeting for the Provo Mansion, North Union, Water Board,

[16:00] February, February 9th of 2026, kind of hash out things and work through things.

[16:08] Of course, I have a good friend of the board member here, it's kind of spearheading things

[16:17] with that.

[16:17] That's when I was being transferred over Brian.

[16:22] There's been a number of meetings.

[16:25] There's an expert on everyone.

[16:28] So we congratulate you, Brian.

[16:31] Thank you very much.

[16:32] I don't know if condolences.

[16:33] Yeah, I might be both.

[16:35] And that's just to follow what Marcus stated.

[16:38] That's all true, accurate.

[16:40] North Union is just on the record is.

[16:44] It does not own any water rights in the cell if it only has shares in PGIC or P-Probo Bench.

[16:51] Too many acronyms today.

[16:52] Yes.

[16:53] So, Probe Bench.

[16:53] So, when they dissolve that company, the North Union shares then devolved into their Probe Bench components and both companies dissolved.

[17:02] And so, though, each shareholder will be getting their individual water conveyed to them with some other Probe River.

[17:15] So PGIC, Pleasant Grove City and BG Metro, they all have a certain amount of shares in North

[17:22] Union.

[17:22] That'll revert to a probable bench share.

[17:28] So if everybody that owns anything in North Union will get an individual share of probable

[17:34] bench.

[17:35] Proble bench is dissolving, too.

[17:37] Oh.

[17:37] Yes, so that will translate to a natural flow and a storage flow.

[17:40] Yep, and there's two components because they also own some

[17:45] Probe river water user storage. So there's two water. I shall get a natural

[17:52] natural flow and then a storage right and as part of that

[17:58] the Probe river water users' association

[18:01] Required whole numbers

[18:03] So you either had to buy up to a whole number or sell down to a whole number

[18:10] So that's probably what we're going to get to on the agenda is we're going to have a bill that's going to come do is we elected to buy up and the bill is is going to be.

[18:22] It's not finalized 100% but around $45,000.

[18:28] It's about their evaluation was $70,000 per event share was what the board, but you could

[18:38] take your straight-out and go trade on the market where you can do it in part of this

[18:42] internal marketplace.

[18:45] When you say that is, which entity is?

[18:49] Program Metro has to buy up, all three entities elected to buy up.

[18:54] Okay, so the three enemies we're talking about is

[18:59] EGIC, METRO and the city.

[19:01] And you're saying that all of them together?

[19:04] No, no.

[19:04] Plus that over METRO is all the gauge.

[19:07] It's 45.

[19:08] It's like 45, 301, but that was a preliminary number.

[19:12] And the final letters are going to be coming out in the next couple of weeks.

[19:17] And then you'll have that and the EGIC will have that also, right?

[19:21] Yes.

[19:25] So

[19:28] there are only 70,000 for a share, how are we giving more than one share, and you said

[19:34] one share is 70,000.

[19:37] So how do you buy up more than 70,000?

[19:39] You're rounding up to an equivalent share in the Provo River Water Users Association.

[19:46] Yeah.

[19:47] So that equates to a decimal of a Provo Vent share.

[19:52] Yes, that's exactly right, yeah, it took a lot of the figure all this out and then the

[20:01] Crayon and then it was done with enough people willing to sell down and enough people

[20:11] to sell up to miraculously kind of worked out.

[20:16] Yeah, what they did was they just went through the share of the biggest shareholders that

[20:20] elected first, the parent and their decision, they went to the next one and then the numbers

[20:26] worked out real close because I was fretting that for a while because I thought there

[20:29] would be a whole bunch of them but it all, okay, most people decided to elect us, so yeah.

[20:35] And so you went to your whatever was remaining, you could buy up to that percentage of what

[20:39] was left and then the small ones elected, they wanted to let go of some, that's all you've

[20:50] not allow fractionalization of their sugars.

[20:56] That's one reason I want to put on the agenda, because we've got an expanse coming up.

[21:01] It doesn't grow variegation is ready to pay their tank needle over being a part of this.

[21:07] You have a good advice, it'd be better to pay out.

[21:11] It's one time opportunity, and especially the storage component is, this is the first

[21:18] times that ever happened. So there wasn't other opportunities of feeling you know letting go that

[21:27] would be could have maybe purchased more or that just didn't have. There were four shares

[21:33] that went to the open market. The largest shareholders were able to acquire those and PGIC was

[21:42] actually third and we got one of them. There was, but the worm got two and then got two

[21:48] and we got one in PGIC. Good. And the antennae along from the canal come was they wanted

[21:55] to keep the water local to the best way that they could. Great. The other reason I put

[22:02] on the agenda is that those water shares that we've had in North Union served the South

[22:10] part of Pleasant Grove with the abolishment of Northean and the city clean

[22:16] airs in the Pearl River now or the pipe I should say going in the Alpine mostly

[22:23] it's going to be all right so Metro Shares probably stayed in the cities yes you

[22:32] usage. I don't know if they ever wind up using meal. Oh, for sure. The city. City used

[22:41] every drop from the natural flow and storage. Yeah, they already had a defined allocation

[22:50] in the PRA. Yeah. Anyway, the PGIC's 200 shares. We put it all down. We call it the cards

[23:01] We're just happy to try to get that down to the end of the role where the last one's on the service and we've been frustrated for a year trying to get any kind of consistent full.

[23:14] And then when they got the bid, it was between $20 and $30 million.

[23:18] dollars, five-take gardener gifts. So that's just how our possibilities, it's

[23:26] going to end in somehow they didn't have any caring rights in the Pro-Kanal and

[23:34] how they've regarded.

[23:38] I could go along detail but they were they they did their

[23:41] own acquisition of capacity in the canal. So they get perpetual capacity.

[23:49] They have

[23:49] about 10 CFS. They need a little more for the old one, but they've got the majority of them.

[23:56] So they spend about a couple million dollars to retrofit things, so they can service

[24:02] their secondary water system. I left us with 200 shares, transferred over to this

[24:09] promo bench, and my concern is the key to those water rights here in Pleasant Grove. So

[24:19] since we just used it on the south part of Pleasant Grove and we aren't servicing them anymore.

[24:25] It said you're on secondary water. We can't get you. Any water. I want to see

[24:31] it. Pleasant Grove gets to keep those water rights since Pleasant Grove City

[24:37] Slash Metro owns about or controls about 71 percent of PGIC. It seems to me like

[24:47] I guess it would be a good time maybe to transfer what we're doing, these transfer it over

[24:53] in the pleasant growth name and then make an arrangement to have PGA or PGA Metro, it's

[25:05] everybody they want to do it now, make a contract to purchase the rest of those shares, so they're

[25:11] all kept in pleasant growth, technically we don't have any need for them.

[25:16] So you want to basically take the ownership from PGIC to the Metro?

[25:23] Yeah, that's my sense.

[25:25] So we keep the water rights here.

[25:28] Are we talking so currently pleasant growth city only 71% approximately of PGIC?

[25:35] Not only. We own or rent.

[25:38] We own or rent.

[25:40] We're above 50 on the ownership and then balance is renting.

[25:45] okay so what would that in and I guess in overall will is the city in

[25:52] favor of trying to acquire those shares that are not currently owned yet we're

[26:00] buying everything that comes across our desk we take this cashing low and it's

[26:06] actually Metro that's buying the share and so we're buying everything we can

[26:11] and every well-in-seller.

[26:16] Yeah, that's kind of an interesting transaction I have thought through.

[26:20] So is that by your ownership in the shares already,

[26:23] do you already own 70% of those shares?

[26:26] We do, right?

[26:28] Well, they vote on 70% they own 56%.

[26:32] And whatever percentage is I'm saying,

[26:34] of those normal union shares.

[26:36] Right now.

[26:37] So in that transaction I assume those portions are already granted.

[26:40] So yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, but the automatically come the rest are what gonna be discussed, right?

[26:46] Okay, yeah, that's that seems cleaner that way to just get the balance

[26:51] and get a

[26:54] Probably wait. What do you think and get the water right and then just transfer that water right direct?

[26:59] I think we're too late to have it happen with this. That's something that's got to go. That's a

[27:06] two-way till it's in with them and then it would have been nice, but

[27:10] There are also some complexities, I mean, we're mixing entities here, but PGIC has commitments to deliver water through the PRA to shareholders and that's the only water that can get to them.

[27:25] So we need to probably vet that a little bit. That's what I was going to ask.

[27:29] Just as the PGIC has a certain percentage in PG City, right, as I understand the PRA.

[27:36] Well you have, yeah, you have the PGIC water that was North Union, has always conveyed

[27:45] both in the PRA and in the Gardner ditch, Gardner ditch is gone.

[27:50] But there are PGIC shareholders who still get water through the PRA that we can't, I don't

[27:59] I don't know that we could just get rid of all the PRA water and then what would the

[28:03] users do because that's used as supplement in the later season as well.

[28:11] Okay.

[28:11] And depending on this though, that PZIC already has 1100 shares in the PRA of storage, but

[28:20] the city already owns the 70% of that too.

[28:24] Sure.

[28:25] So that's only 330 acre feet,

[28:30] and

[28:33] that you probably, I don't want to speak for the

[28:38] wrong entity.

[28:39] So you probably need to look at how that physically, yeah, the past he was, yeah, worked.

[28:44] We need to run some numbers this year with the commitments of delivery through the PRA that

[28:53] Billy Joe is delivered because, in the past, PGIC has utilized the city storage to get

[29:04] those late seasons to help out the company.

[29:08] Certainly, I want to consider everything we need to.

[29:11] Yeah.

[29:12] My concern is, I just don't want to submit this opportunity because we've had some shareholders

[29:17] We just say, look, this is where the whole lot of money

[29:20] is shared, translated into probable bathroom.

[29:25] I was just not seeing the value and not everything transferred

[29:29] over though, considered.

[29:31] Yeah, I think they say there's a temporary development for the

[29:35] money because of the situation.

[29:37] So we have some shareholders to say we don't care about Pleasant

[29:40] Grove City.

[29:42] Let's just get the most forward and put it on the open market.

[29:45] guys with deep pockets right out check and buy all of it doesn't grow to be up

[29:52] forever I don't want to see that happen I happen to know there let's

[30:00] Class A rights and storage. What I think the metro board ought to do is make a motion to authorize the board president to work a deal with the city to acquire those shares through a purchase agreement.

[30:27] And then once, once we are able to

[30:31] Quantify what

[30:35] is doable with what commitments have been made

[30:39] Then we can finalize that

[30:42] My position is president TGIC

[30:46] Title care of contracts for a dollar a year from the next thousand years

[30:52] 100,000 years. I just want those photographs kept here. I want to be very good as a city

[30:58] doesn't grow so it's

[31:00] nieces perform miracles

[31:03] Of course, because this completion is aware of the amount of American fork, I have to

[31:09] cut smarty out.

[31:10] He's the one that got the ball rolling with the piping of the mail ditch.

[31:16] He just without the initial piping of the mail ditch, federal people with NRCS, some press,

[31:24] engineer representing NRCS, so it was the best use, federal money she'd ever seen.

[31:31] and I'd like to grab work for the future.

[31:34] I mean, there are the water savings

[31:36] when in terms of getting a different money.

[31:39] The needs just perform miracles.

[31:42] So we could press ahead with that $10 million

[31:44] where plus this piping of the mail,

[31:49] which section we just finished this year.

[31:52] And so she's done, I don't know how she's done with that.

[31:56] in hot water with the city administration, she's done it and so I want to work

[32:03] in every way I can on the position I am so we don't lose this opportunity because

[32:10] like I say I could just see people to say her madder pleasant girl for one reason

[32:15] another just

[32:19] say I don't care I want to put on the open market I want to

[32:23] So let's get the bus.

[32:25] I think comes almost $7.00 and let's put on the open market.

[32:30] I wasn't broken figure out their own problem.

[32:34] I don't want to see that go that way.

[32:36] I think that there's definitely

[32:37] an end just kind of endilling with it in the past.

[32:40] And you're in a gut shareholder's of PGIC.

[32:44] They're going to have to be taken into consideration

[32:45] as far as how that's delivered.

[32:47] They're going to be very interested and very vocal about that.

[32:50] So I think, like Neil's saying, I think what your recommendation is, is that we make a motion that allows Mark to move forward as a president of the PG Metro to coordinate with the city on a purchase agreement and that through that analyzing that there's obviously some coordination of PGIC that needs to be had through that purchase agreement and the shareholders there.

[33:15] at least we, you have the right to move forward

[33:18] in trying to analyze and figure out the best way forward.

[33:22] I would like to make that motion.

[33:23] I think that's the right thing.

[33:25] Now is the right time.

[33:26] I agree with it.

[33:26] I think it's the time that we try to get some things figured out

[33:29] because it's the writings on the wall with that water

[33:33] and we're gonna figure out how to best use it now,

[33:34] but it's only available in the outpight of the BRA.

[33:37] So, yeah, motion, do we have a second to that?

[33:41] I'll second that.

[33:42] Second by Nail for the discussion in the rest of your input online.

[33:49] Well, that's why I didn't make the motion because of my unique situation.

[33:53] But I think it's a great deal for Metro. How about you, Paul?

[33:58] Shall we say interesting conversation to support it?

[34:04] Denise, you have some comments from the financial standpoint.

[34:08] Okay, a motion in the second, further discussion, seeing those in favor of the motion, say aye.

[34:17] Aye.

[34:18] Aye.

[34:19] Those opposed?

[34:21] Any abstentions?

[34:23] Motion carries unanimously.

[34:26] I'll proceed to have them or represent the city, which I think Marty, at least in my mind,

[34:33] and he was working with Neil to public works director.

[34:37] For sure.

[34:38] Also a member of this.

[34:39] Or whoever he assigns to do that analysis

[34:42] and make recommendations,

[34:43] or I think it got some very qualified people

[34:46] to be able to do that review and work with Billy Joe

[34:49] and try to figure things out.

[34:51] Yeah, I'd be excellent.

[34:55] I'll proceed ahead.

[34:56] I'm sure we'll contact Tina to make sure everything's done

[35:00] legally.

[35:03] I was done. Okay, that concludes the items on the agenda. We have a motion

[35:12] to adjourn. Isle move. A motion to adjourn by Brian. Do you want to second that, Paul?

[35:19] I will second that one. I'm just pulling past the high school, so I was going to come

[35:25] I wouldn't say hi in person, but I second it.

[35:28] Thank you.

[35:29] When did you ever come in?

[35:31] I did want to recommend that we choose the next meetings

[35:34] in May and June.

[35:36] At those meetings, we will adopt a tentative budget.

[35:40] And then at the meeting in June,

[35:41] we would approve a final budget.

[35:43] And that would require a public hearing notice.

[35:46] OK, would you like to go for your calendar, Zan?

[35:59] So they got to be, how many days apart again?

[36:02] Don't have to be 30 days apart?

[36:06] We always do this around, we work around strawberry days, the one strawberry days is the week of the 15th, isn't it?

[36:18] We can do the tentative budget though, anytime.

[36:21] Correct.

[36:22] Yeah.

[36:23] So should we try and get a little bit better?

[36:26] Sure.

[36:32] Yeah, we were within that date, so many of us really made.

[36:37] Yeah, how about, how about we do, yeah, early May and then late June?

[36:41] Yeah, okay.

[36:45] First week of May is tough for me.

[36:47] I'm going to say the 6th is not good, so the 13th works.

[36:52] The 13th open for the 13th is not good.

[36:56] I think we'll see the things budget on the 5th and 8th.

[37:01] Unless it's 5.30 or 6th, I can pick it up.

[37:11] I hope in April 29th as well,

[37:17] for me.

[37:18] Oh, yeah.

[37:19] It's

[37:22] 20 minutes good for you, Mark.

[37:24] For me?

[37:26] I'll get out of 10 dogs that night.

[37:28] Yeah, I'm okay.

[37:30] So, yes.

[37:31] Let's do it.

[37:32] I'm not sure that's in the middle of this video.

[37:34] Yeah, okay,

[37:38] and then how about our June meeting?

[37:44] June or late May.

[37:46] Late May or, yeah.

[37:47] Yeah, we could.

[37:48] Yeah, we could.

[37:49] We could.

[37:50] It's too late.

[37:52] You have to be what?

[37:54] It's 29-30.

[37:55] First grade or some graduation party?

[37:57] Oh, yeah, that's what I'm just looking at.

[37:59] Mine's graduation.

[38:00] What about June 3rd?

[38:04] I'm open.

[38:05] That works for me.

[38:06] That works for me.

[38:07] Wait.

[38:08] I can make any of that work for you Paul yes okay just should we say June 3rd

[38:20] then wonderful you've done it for us so we're working around yeah have them for big we do it early

[38:27] yeah they might get your free passes strawberry you might have trouble parking though around here

[38:34] That's what I just get a parking pass on where that's

[38:39] what I came back and I'm like what is going on yeah you do not leave for lunch or we put

[38:49] cones out you know people will still park in your place okay okay

[38:56] It's a bright-made emotion to be ready to have a second Paul second up you can't

[39:04] Please call.

[39:05] All right.

[39:05] Those in favor say aye.

[39:08] Aye.

[39:09] Motion carries an out of place.

[39:11] Aye.

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