Name: Pontiac City Council
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Description: And as I'm looking at the budget, I don't see a line item there that allows for other repairs of the budget in the budget for roads and mostly our local roads.

[2:46] Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. The time is 5 o'clock PM. We have a special meeting of the

[2:51] Pontiac City Council schedule for us to do some public hearings on the proposed

[2:58] Miljorates for the coming fiscal year as well as the proposed city of Pontiac budget. The meeting

[3:05] is called to order as scheduled at 5 o'clock PM. We'll give the floor to clerk Pontiac City Clerk

[3:14] Carl and Doyle to contact the role call of city council members.

[3:35] Can you say?

[3:36] President,

[3:40] goodman,

[3:43] James, Jones, McGinnis,

[3:49] President, Parker, here.

[3:52] Brotherford, President, you have a quorum.

[3:56] All right, quorum being established.

[3:58] Councilwoman Kathleen James is also president voting.

[4:02] We've heard from Councilwoman Jones that she won't be able to make the special meeting

[4:06] due to some unexpected challenges, but we do expect Councilman Goodman.

[4:11] Could I please have a motion to excuse Councilwoman Jones from this meeting for personal

[4:15] reasons?

[4:15] Moe Buck Harrington?

[4:16] Moe Buck?

[4:17] Moe Buck?

[4:18] Moe Buck?

[4:19] Moe Buck?

[4:19] and then Parker, any discussion on the motion?

[4:23] Very non-roll call clerk, Doyle, on the motion

[4:25] to excuse Councilperson Jones from this meeting

[4:27] for personal reasons.

[4:28] Canaryton?

[4:29] Yes.

[4:31] James?

[4:34] McGinnis?

[4:35] Yes.

[4:36] Parker?

[4:36] Yes.

[4:37] We're other for it.

[4:39] Five, the Ayes, and O'Nays.

[4:41] All right, that motion carries.

[4:42] We're now at Approval of the agenda.

[4:44] Is there a motion to adopt and approved?

[4:46] Move by, Canaryton.

[4:47] Is there a second?

[4:48] It's been moved by Council Pro Tem, seconded by Councilman Parker, the motion is before us and the discussion amendments, changes of clarification.

[4:59] Yes, ma'am.

[5:00] So when we get to the part where we want to add money to certain parts of the budget, do we just wait to do that?

[5:04] Are we wait?

[5:06] Do you want to do it now?

[5:07] In this special meeting, we're doing the public hearing only on the budget.

[5:11] So that would be during the regular meeting.

[5:13] But if you go that route, then we will have to have an additional meeting next week.

[5:16] I understand.

[5:19] All right.

[5:22] Here, you know, for the discussion on the proposed agenda, roll call clerk, do I want

[5:27] an adoption of the resolution, or excuse me, adoption of the agenda as proposed?

[5:31] James?

[5:32] Oh, she left.

[5:35] I'm a Guinness.

[5:36] Yes.

[5:38] Parker?

[5:39] Yes.

[5:41] Yes.

[5:42] Yes.

[5:42] Carrington.

[5:43] Yes.

[5:43] for yeas, uh, well, James, five

[5:50] yeas, no nays.

[5:52] Okay, very good.

[5:53] That motion carries.

[5:54] We're now at public comment.

[5:55] Were there any requests this evening?

[5:58] You could just read it if there is any.

[6:04] The rain lasana.

[6:17] And before we'll start, the microphone used to be turned on at the bottom right of the base

[6:22] of the, you're in the right spot.

[6:26] Yep, it's live now.

[6:29] Thank you.

[6:29] Good afternoon.

[6:31] I'm Lorraine LaZana from Stone Gate Point and I'm here to request funds from the surplus budget or whatever fund might be available to complete our roads in lighting and stone gate point.

[6:47] The reason I'm requesting it is that there were agreements made over 20 years ago to complete our roads and that has not been done

[6:57] In order to do the project, bonds were sold, but we're not sure what happened with the money

[7:06] because the roads did not get completed.

[7:09] There was however guarantees in the contract for completion.

[7:15] So we're saying that the contracts were broken.

[7:19] However, also in the contract, three years was allowed to complete the road.

[7:24] So we're saying 20 years is a bit much and that's still not done.

[7:30] We do have a new builder that has a approach, building units in some gate, and we're asking

[7:37] that the city hold up on doing any improvements for construction until we know what the status

[7:46] of the road completion is.

[7:48] So again, we're asking for $3 million to be allocated from the budget to help us in completing the roads.

[7:57] Thank you.

[8:02] Any other requests?

[8:03] Clerk Doyle.

[8:07] Arlene Clark.

[8:12] That is the request.

[8:14] Okay, here you know for the request for public comment at this time.

[8:17] We'll move to number one on the agenda.

[8:19] Public hearing regarding the proposed millage rates for the 2025-2026 fiscal year.

[8:24] We do anticipate making a decision on this matter this evening.

[8:28] but we want to first give an opportunity for the community to weigh in.

[8:32] With the administration, I would like to present anything further, or would you like us

[8:36] to read the proposed knowledge rates, would you have in mind?

[8:41] Thank you, Councillor President.

[8:42] This is actually a fairly straightforward item.

[8:45] The administration is not asking for any overrides or special changes to the

[8:51] We are asking to move forward with the maximum allowed milled rates by the headley amendment.

[9:02] All right.

[9:04] With that, the proposed city millages for operating purposes.

[9:11] They are under the 2024 headley maximum allowable millage, the operating, the charter,

[9:20] Established operating millages at 10.8924 mills, the City Charter Established Capital Improvements,

[9:29] millages at 1.3613 mills, the state law initiated sanitation millages is 2.7229,

[9:40] and then the City of Pontiank voter established Senior Services Millages at 0.4829,

[9:48] 1, the voter established youth recreation milk is 1.4491, and the voter established operating

[9:56] millages at 1.087, excuse me, 1.0847.

[10:05] So those are the proposed millage rates, again no change, no increase over the previous fiscal

[10:12] year.

[10:15] Is there any clarification from council members before we open up a public hearing to receive community feedback on the proposed millage rates for the year?

[10:26] Protem Kerington.

[10:28] Thank you, President begin.

[10:29] I just want to ensure that the charter, these, these are a lot of the villages where the same is last year.

[10:41] Deputy Mayor Stevens.

[10:43] Yes, Councilman, these are the same villages.

[10:47] Where you see the voted operating village, if you recall, it may have been the first year or

[10:56] the second year in office, we present a headly override request, and that is what you see in

[11:02] the voted operating.

[11:04] All right.

[11:05] Thank you.

[11:07] All right, with that, we're going to open it up for a public hearing for any community members

[11:11] that wished to opine off of their feedback or close questions about the proposed milled rates

[11:17] for the coming fiscal year.

[11:19] This will be July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year and obviously for a

[11:26] property owner in the city of Pontiac that results in a summer 2025 tax bill and then a winter

[11:34] 2025 tax bill that usual cycle remains.

[11:39] Yes, ma'am.

[11:39] So, what will be the average I use an administration on this question that the summer taxes are going to increase as well?

[11:47] I know you said it's not going to increase about the amount that percentage, but how does this increase on the actual tax bill?

[11:54] Does it based upon each individual?

[11:57] Deputy Mayor, you've been yielded to answer the question.

[12:00] Thank you.

[12:01] I don't have that answer, but I can give you an example.

[12:05] So the millage rates by the headly amendment get moved down based on how much the property values went up this year.

[12:16] So the idea is to try and keep the income to the city neutral and only allowing enough increase to deal with whatever the actual inflationary increase was.

[12:30] But I don't have an exact number to say, hey, here is a property and that property went up

[12:38] and taxable value by $100.

[12:42] And so their tax bill is going to go up by $5.

[12:45] I don't have that.

[12:47] To actually answer your question, it depends on the parcel.

[12:51] So we got 25,000 parcels in the city and it depends on what the assessed value is.

[12:56] So that there's no increase in the assessed value of a parcel based on the annual assessment done,

[13:02] then there will be literally zero dollar change.

[13:05] It really just depends on how much is it assessed that that parcel is increased in value.

[13:10] But what we determine is the millage rate.

[13:12] So the millage rate would mean if there's no change in value, there's no change in the tax amount.

[13:20] Any further clarification before we open up the public hearing?

[13:26] We have chartered on it, but I thought we would be done with charter.

[13:31] In the city charter, it establishes, I don't want to miss quote.

[13:36] In the city charter, is what it says is the operating village,

[13:41] and in the city charter it says with the capital improvements village.

[13:45] The city charter establishes that those villages exist and their rates.

[13:50] So when there was a revision of the city charter, it didn't change that.

[13:53] So, just like within the decades prior, those villages exist, but it's charter initiated.

[14:01] It's the charter, the trigger that.

[14:05] That adequately answered that.

[14:07] Thank you.

[14:08] Any final clarification before we open up for public hearing?

[14:12] All right, this is the community's opportunity to offer their feedback,

[14:16] perspective, and questions on their proposed mills rates.

[14:19] Again, proposing no increase, no change from the previous fiscal year.

[14:24] The public hearing is opened

[14:30] at 513 PM. If you want to come up, state your name and address.

[14:41] I'm darling Clark, 506 Nebraska Avenue.

[14:47] Though there's no changes within the mill, this wasn't before you for this budget.

[14:52] There's still a lot of unanswered questions for this budget that the public does have.

[14:57] The public doesn't see no imp-

[15:00] They see a status within the city of Paniay. They don't see a movement. They don't see a movement with

[15:07] the red center, the youth center. They don't see a good movement with the senior ballroom

[15:13] Peterson and a boy center. They don't see movements and improvements of the street. The

[15:19] problem is this that if your intent is to help the people get the streets picked up or are straight

[15:26] up or prepared. I apologize for the compensation but for the repairs. How do you suggest

[15:34] going about that? Will you have a surprise visit, a surprise fund on the taxes for them in

[15:42] a later date? Right now, it's a lot of unanswered question that the public do really want

[15:47] to know.

[15:52] Other requests on the proposed militaries? Then we'll make it, yes, you're welcome. Then we'll

[15:56] make a decision on the proposed military after the conclusion of the public hearing and discuss

[16:01] the matter or decide to table the item, and then we'll have a second public hearing

[16:05] on the budget itself, the proposed budget.

[16:08] Good before.

[16:09] Lorraine, Ms. Anna, 304, pain.

[16:12] I was a little bit confused when you talked about the increase in the assessor value.

[16:18] Are you saying that that tax rate would only be on the increase portion?

[16:26] If it change, so if it will not buy a hundred dollars, are you saying it's only on the

[16:33] increased portion and the base remains the same?

[16:38] We can strive to answer questions after the public hearing.

[16:41] Okay, that was my.

[16:48] By the request to speak, opportunities for feedback during the public hearing and the proposed

[16:53] millage rates.

[16:55] Any other requests?

[16:56] Any other requests?

[16:57] Any other requests?

[16:58] Hearing none, the public hearing on the proposed milled rates for the upcoming fiscal year

[17:03] is concluded at 516 p.m. Deputy Mayor Stevens, which is like take a first crack at

[17:11] addressing the residents' question about what the impact of any increase in value has.

[17:19] Thank you, Mr. President, and I do apologize if my answer was misleading or confusing.

[17:25] No, it was not my intent to say that the millage rates only apply to any change and taxable value.

[17:36] I was just using that as an example to illustrate the councilwoman's question as to how will this increase anyone's taxes?

[17:45] So the, I think a more succinct answer is, we are not increasing the millage rates.

[17:56] So your taxable, the taxes that you pay would only go up if your assessed value goes up.

[18:03] If your taxable value goes up, then the amount that you pay will go up.

[18:06] If your taxable value does not change, the amount that you pay does not change.

[18:13] All right.

[18:14] So, the public hearing on that regard number one on the agenda is concluded, like to recognize

[18:18] Councilman Goodman's present voting, we're at number two on the agenda, resolution

[18:22] approving the annual millage rates for the 2025-25-26 fiscal year, is there a motion to approve

[18:28] the resolution?

[18:30] Is there a second?

[18:32] It's been moved by Councilwoman Rutherford, second by Councilwoman James, so that resolution

[18:36] is now before us.

[18:38] You see the wording on the resolution before us, and we've most immediately had taken a public hearing to provide feedback as well.

[18:50] Any discussion on the motion to approve those annual property tax militarets?

[19:01] All right, so again, this is no change from the previous fiscal year from the previous year of property tax cycles,

[19:09] millage rates, and so that will, on the only change of variation in one's property taxes

[19:15] would be related to any change, necobie reduction, you know, change increase or decrease

[19:21] on the assessed value of the property.

[19:24] If you ever have any questions about parcels that you own or have interest in on their assessed

[19:30] value rates, open county equalization division on Elizabeth Lake Road in Pontiac, your

[19:38] and answer questions specifically about parcels,

[19:42] and it is public information.

[19:45] Confluent James.

[19:47] Also, it might be helpful to just have, as part of this,

[19:51] what the average increase, you know,

[19:55] would be for the average householder.

[19:58] Yeah, that's a fair, that is a fair question.

[20:00] People just see a number.

[20:02] It gives them some level of comfort.

[20:06] So just to have that average,

[20:08] If it's $30, $20, whatever, people seeing a number,

[20:13] they feel a little more confident about it.

[20:16] So, and we recognize there's big disparity of vacant land versus a structure.

[20:20] We're mainly interested in forest structure.

[20:24] I've seen based on some studies that the administration has provided,

[20:28] that the average value of a home in Paniak is 100,000 or 103,000.

[20:34] So usually your assess value is like 50% you know there's different figures but what it takes

[20:40] into account the question is on average how much is that increased year over year in

[20:45] Pontiac depending on where someone's at and we recognize that each parcel is unique

[20:50] and different but we want to be able to give people perspective.

[20:54] Just that average because it should be within the level within a pretty small level and I think

[21:01] that alone would kind of give people some confidence.

[21:06] And that goes back to the original question

[21:07] that Council on Rutherford was asking

[21:08] how to have the rest of the year.

[21:11] Any further discussion on this resolution?

[21:13] Just re-confirming the tax milled rates for, again,

[21:17] this is required each year.

[21:19] So whether they remain the same, go down or go up.

[21:22] Each year, you'll see your city government

[21:24] have to make this re-determination

[21:27] of what the rates will be.

[21:29] Here in North of the Discussion,

[21:30] roll call clerk Doyle on adoption of the resolution setting the 2025- 2025-6 fiscal year

[21:36] property tax metrics. James? Yes. Beginners? Yes. Parker? Yes.

[21:43] Brotherford? Yes. Carrington? Yes. Give me. Yes. Six jays, no nays. All right. We are at number

[21:51] three on the agenda. So, we as the city of Pontiac are required to have our annual budget set by

[22:00] June 1st, based on the new city charter.

[22:03] So that deadline is approaching.

[22:06] We received the Mayor's proposed budget, mid-April.

[22:10] We held a budget hearing April 22nd, May 13th, and discussion at various regular city

[22:17] council meetings as well.

[22:19] Tonight is May 20th.

[22:21] This is the public hearing opportunity, a formal opportunity to speak about the budget

[22:25] being proposed so far and then at the regular city council meeting we will have another reading

[22:31] of that proposed budget. Council gets to decide if they're in a position they want to

[22:36] ratify it that evening this evening at the regular meeting or if it should take place at a

[22:42] future special meeting so that will be the determination but we got to make sure that we get it in

[22:48] per the city charter by the end of this month. All right so you as residents that the opportunity

[22:55] to weigh in formally and informally at those previous meetings, but we want to carve out

[22:59] a specific time for you to make requests, raise concerns during this public hearing, which

[23:07] opens now, 522 PM, in any resident or community member that wishes to speak, please state

[23:16] your name and address.

[23:25] I have a question actually and looking at the budget for area three relating to the

[23:36] Tiffle bonds

[23:40] area three

[23:46] and if you guys have that there.

[23:51] So my question is the fund the Tiffle is under fund 240.

[23:58] So it appears that the estimated revenues are 2.4 million and debt services are a little

[24:09] over 2 million with a profits or a speak of 333,000, but then it shows an ending fund balance

[24:20] of 2,07.

[24:23] So I didn't quite understand it.

[24:25] It began at 3 million, a deficit of 3 million.

[24:30] So I'm wondering how did those numbers occur.

[24:37] And if there's funds still in the, from when the bonds were sold.

[24:45] Thank you.

[24:49] Other citizens request to speak on the proposed City of Panic Annual Budget.

[24:59] If you're a resident of a particular neighborhood advocating for particular infrastructure

[25:03] improvement, you're welcome to make your case at the microphone now if you wanted to.

[25:18] Valor grows 322 paying an avenue of the afternoon or a good evening council, Deputy Mayor.

[25:26] Yeah, I'm looking and asking for the council to really consider supporting our roles being built

[25:37] in our division. Stone Gate is one of the apples, one of the diamonds in Pontiac City.

[25:48] We've been making this request now for some time. I remember when we originally asked FedEx

[25:58] to give us the money before they built their system right off a telegraph there.

[26:11] We asked, I don't know, I can tell you, I don't remember how many money and residents

[26:18] were there but it was a few and we asked them to give us the million dollars before that

[26:26] would build their service behind our residents. We also asked them to build a burn to make

[26:38] sure that the noises wouldn't bother our citizens as we, because when we live there,

[26:48] you don't want any other noises of it in the trains that we get running back and forth there.

[26:54] We knew that before we moved there, that the trains could be a problem, but we didn't ask for FedEx to be there.

[27:06] I specifically talked to FedEx management and asked them if you would like to build your company there.

[27:16] you need to give money at Stone Gate Residence something in return, and they ask, well what

[27:23] would that be? And I said at least a million dollars for the roads. And we met on that. We also asked

[27:32] that they bill that burn to make sure that noise isn't bothering the residents and our community.

[27:39] And we also ask that we have some type of promises that the pollution wouldn't be bothered

[27:50] to kids and the residents in our community that exes lived up to everything that they've

[27:59] They've given us the million dollars.

[28:01] It's all in hold.

[28:02] They've built the barn.

[28:03] We don't hear the noises from their truck and company.

[28:07] They make sure that the air is purified around our neighborhoods.

[28:14] But the concern that we've had like in the past,

[28:20] it was promised that these roads would

[28:22] be built when those houses were built in our neighborhood.

[28:26] Before they were built, there was a promise that the builders would make sure that roads and

[28:36] our lights were completed. They didn't live up to that. That does

[28:41] conclude your time. So I'm asking that please look into us

[28:47] giving those roles built. Thank you. Other requests to speak during the public

[28:52] hearing and the proposed annual budget?

[28:55] Do you need it again?

[29:00] Thank you. He's good. I can say my name,

[29:02] All right. I'm darling Clark. Once again, the people would like to have not so much a code

[29:10] increase for DPW to have an increase in order to get a quality job done for the worker

[29:18] they have done. They're limited to what they're doing for the city. They work on a bill

[29:24] minimum with tools and supplies, but not just that.

[29:30] Though code has done a good job with Mr. McIntyre,

[29:34] he has bought the city up from where it was,

[29:37] but it's still to do a sloppy job,

[29:41] and I'd say that because I'm into trim and you know,

[29:45] the yards and the grasses and things like that.

[29:48] When you hire subcontractors to come out and do work,

[29:51] They don't do a perfection job for public streets, especially for the main streets like

[29:58] here I, for a clean road.

[30:00] Why track the main streets where you can see a little more care given into their jobs? But another thing

[30:11] the streets, the streets are such, I mean, not just don't gate, the whole city of Panean. Harrison

[30:20] Street looks awful. My street, I guarantee you look just as bad as Harrison Street. We got

[30:27] homes in there. And not just district one in every district, pipe street. All these streets

[30:33] that the traffic has to go down. The people just want to see that the council have a little

[30:39] more care and to try and get more money and the budget to have at least start a project. Like

[30:46] start fixing some of the residential streets. So the next administration can have the opportunity to

[30:52] pass that part and try to keep up because for somewhere there's not enough money in the budget

[30:58] to fix any street. So you don't do anything with the residential street. So look into

[31:04] that as you look into stone, get to see the importance of what's going on with the rest.

[31:09] And their main complaints are the streets.

[31:20] This is Dr. Deerge Roterman, 312 out of a drive on ahead with this public hearing. I also would

[31:26] to start my comments by picking up on some of the things that were said previously in this

[31:30] public hearing. And I could prefix that by saying that I've been to each one of the budget

[31:39] meetings that you've had, and I've seen the discussion that has gone on. But I'm realizing

[31:46] that as we've gone to the discussion,

[31:51] the mostly soft questions, and that's unusual.

[31:53] generally want to budget meetings I've gone on other administrations, people are really looking

[31:58] at financial choices and there's some tough decisions to make and hard decisions to make.

[32:03] But after the discussion I've heard and I understand from the agenda that you really hope that

[32:10] this budget will be approved, maybe even this at this evening's meeting from what I see,

[32:15] and I'm just wondering how we're ready to do that, given the fact that number one,

[32:19] As I look through the budget, it has proposed, and that's the mayor's proposed budget.

[32:25] So far, you haven't made any changes to it.

[32:28] Okay, so it means you're accepting cold, cold face, the things that are in there.

[32:33] But, as I look at that budget, I'm looking for the things related to.

[32:39] The chief concern, if you ask people what the top priority is is the roads, the roads are in that shape.

[32:45] And as I'm looking at the budget, I don't see a line item there that allows for other repairs of the budget in the budget for roads and mostly our local roads.

[32:58] So where is the money? What are you allowing for that? What is the consideration for that?

[33:04] I see the regular money that comes in all the time, the State Act 152 money, but we watch.

[33:10] There's a lot more this.

[33:11] We had a million dollars worth of local roads and need to be repaired.

[33:15] And I don't see any lot in the budget in any plan.

[33:18] The other question is, as I'm trying to balance what I've heard from Ernst Young

[33:25] in terms of the way the opera money is sent.

[33:27] And some things I've heard from the mayor's office is that I don't see where's the line item

[33:32] for the $10,000 that you say is going to come out of the budget to for the youth

[33:35] rex center.

[33:37] I'm not saying that and I'd like to see where the questions are.

[33:40] The other question is, they half of the $10,000 I told you is missing that I'm

[33:46] when I asked the mayor about it last year.

[33:49] He said, oh that's because it wasn't an issue budget because of the arbitration.

[33:54] Well, do you know if any arbitration you would have had to approve the arbitration?

[33:58] So, I'm not sure there was ever an outpatient and maybe this is just a pretext, but that

[34:06] half me in dollars you should be concerned about that and ask that question and it should

[34:09] be in the revenues and hopefully you have the revenues or are looking into that.

[34:13] Half of me in dollars would pay for another 20 or 30 residents to get their homes repair, but

[34:19] it's $25,000.

[34:21] So, don't cheat the people by having money missing because we'd have deals.

[34:28] Good evening, City Council, and all those present.

[34:33] My name is Gerald Allen, I am a proud home owner in the Stone Gate community for the past

[34:40] 16 years.

[34:43] As residents of Stone Gate, I stand before you today to advocate for the sub division.

[34:50] Also to express the urgent need for the city's support is securing a grant that will

[34:57] helping our role repairs as well as our lighting.

[35:00] As residents of Stone Gate, we contribute significantly

[35:04] to the city's revenue, and we believe that it is our right

[35:09] for our needs to be addressed and to see tangible improvements

[35:13] to our communities' infrastructure.

[35:16] So I stand before you again,

[35:18] asking an urgent you for your support,

[35:22] and our communities repair to our roads,

[35:24] because currently they present and pose a safety hazard and we believe with this grant along

[35:31] what our money that is in escrow that will enhance the safety and accessibility to all the

[35:37] residents in our community. So, I thank you for your attention and I look forward to all of

[35:44] your support. Thank you, sir. Mr. Young, could you state your address? Yes. 314 times.

[35:49] Thank you very much.

[35:52] Other citizens that was to speak during the public hearing on the proposed city budget.

[35:57] Any other requests?

[35:59] Any other requests?

[36:01] Any other requests?

[36:02] Hearing none?

[36:04] That public hearing is concluded at 535 p.m.

[36:09] All right.

[36:10] Does the finance director want to answer the question in terms of fund that was raised during the public hearing

[36:17] about funds 239 and 240 it's the tax increment financing authority number 2 and number 3.

[36:26] Essentially the residence question is sort of starting balance ending balance the revenue and the impact of that.

[36:36] Do you up for it?

[36:46] So funds 239 and 240.

[36:50] They were asking specifically about fund 240, the TIFA number 3, but it's worth noting

[36:56] similar impact for fund 239 as well.

[37:02] So, for the TIFA number 2 fund 239, projected revenue is 565,000.

[37:13] So, the way these funds work is, well, two and two and three are in a fairly significant deficit.

[37:21] So, obviously, the expenditures are made up front and then over the life of the bond.

[37:27] That's issued associated with it.

[37:29] The revenue comes in and the concept is at the end of that, the net fund gets to net zero.

[37:34] So the one that was specifically talked about was TIFA 3, so at the end of 2025, so June 30,

[37:44] the 2025, the projected deficit is supposed to be approximately $3.1 million in deficit.

[37:54] In fiscal year 26, there's a surplus expected to be added of 333,000 to get us to a new deficit of 2.7.

[38:04] So it's going to probably actually take 11 more years to get that to a net zero in essence

[38:11] with the debt payments continuing as well as the revenue that's expected to come in.

[38:18] And just to bounce on that further, the funds that have parentheses around them are

[38:24] a negative.

[38:32] So do you want to break that down?

[38:33] I'll allow that expansion.

[38:36] She wants clarity on the debt is issued.

[38:42] So 20 plus years ago, when that was issued,

[38:46] that would have been a negative 10 to 10 years.

[38:49] And then each year, the debt service

[38:51] that works down more and more until, whenever that's done,

[38:54] it would get to zero, right?

[38:58] And we used to have more Tiffa funds or more debt service,

[39:02] but the city's emergency manager paid some of them off early on various different bonds, et cetera.

[39:09] So it meant that what had been financed over years, they frontloaded it to pay off the debts earlier.

[39:16] Yeah, and this is a very, um, a standard way in which Tiffas are accounted for in the state.

[39:21] So I mean, we're not doing it unusual here at, uh, fine, all right.

[39:27] All right.

[39:28] So the public hearing, so number three on the agenda that is concluded, we now are adjournment.

[39:36] The time is 538 PM.

[39:40] We have a regular city council meeting that starts at 6 o'clock PM and you can find agendas

[39:45] outside or post online if you want to follow along.

[39:48] It does include opportunities for public comment or agenda address if you want it, but we also will be

[39:54] doing another reading of the proposed budget as well.

[39:58] With that, could I please have a motion to adjourn this special meeting?

[40:01] Move by, Karen to.

[40:02] Is there a second?

[40:03] Yes.

[40:03] Or?

[40:04] It's moved by, Pro Tem.

[40:05] Karen to the second by Councilman James.

[40:08] Here in our discussion, roll call on adjournment.

[40:10] Court Doyle.

[40:13] Karen to?

[40:14] Yes.

[40:15] Good evening.

[40:16] Yes.

[40:17] James.

[40:20] McGinnis.

[40:21] Yes.

[40:22] Parker.

[40:22] Yes.

[40:29] Thank you for coming out a little bit earlier this afternoon to weigh in and we'll see you at the regular city council meeting starting at 6 p.m.

[1:03:35] Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to your Pontiac City Council meeting for Tuesday May 20, 2025.

[1:03:43] This is the regular meeting of the City Council. We've already had a special meeting this evening.

[1:03:46] Thank you, those that were able to attend. We are calling this meeting to order at 6 o'clock PM.

[1:03:52] And we turn the floor to Councilman William Parker Jr., to introduce this evening's invocation.

[1:04:04] Good afternoon, everyone.

[1:04:07] Invocation will be given this evening by the past of May with us.

[1:04:10] powiedz reality this room.

[1:04:25] We come to unite, thank you for another week and another

[1:04:31] opportunity to get it right.

[1:04:34] We thank you Lord for the green and the beauty of Spurling.

[1:04:39] And Father, we ask that tonight you would be with everything that is

[1:04:42] said and done here that it would be kind, honest,

[1:04:50] full of your wisdom

[1:04:51] guidance and that all be said and done would bring honor and glory to your name to the good

[1:04:58] of this city for we ask it in Jesus name. Amen.

[1:05:04] Please rise for the pledge of allegiance to the

[1:05:06] flag of the United States.

[1:05:25] We now as a community hold a moment of silence remembering a neighbor

[1:05:30] and resident who tragically passed away in recent days at the downtown intersection of

[1:05:37] Sagonal and Huron Streets, Justin James Rotker, lives in Pontiac works in Pontiac and was

[1:05:46] actually doing a good, good Samaritan deed of helping two out-of-town residents who were

[1:05:51] visiting our downtown and a downtown business to cross that night. And in that process was hit by

[1:05:58] call. His life was taken and the two young women from out of town, they were seriously injured

[1:06:05] and they continued to recover. Please join us for a moment of silence to remember, Justin

[1:06:10] James, also often known by the nickname of Jay Rock. Let us remember Justin, as well as pray

[1:06:17] for the recovery and healing of the two young women who were also hit during that census tragic

[1:06:24] written run accident.

[1:06:42] Thank you very much.

[1:06:43] Our condolences to his mother, who's a paniac resident,

[1:06:48] all those who work with them,

[1:06:49] knew him as a friend and a neighbor.

[1:06:53] roll call of city council members, clerk Doyle.

[1:06:56] Carrington.

[1:06:58] Present.

[1:06:59] Goodman.

[1:07:00] Here.

[1:07:05] Beginners.

[1:07:06] Present.

[1:07:06] Parker.

[1:07:07] Here.

[1:07:08] Brotherford.

[1:07:09] What is it?

[1:07:11] Presenting, how a corner.

[1:07:12] Quorum has been established.

[1:07:13] We do expect Council on the Land of Jones to join us.

[1:07:16] So we will not have a motion to excuse her.

[1:07:19] Right now to prove that the agenda is there such a motion.

[1:07:22] So moved.

[1:07:23] Sir, second.

[1:07:23] Support.

[1:07:24] It's been moved by Council on Rutherford.

[1:07:26] Seconded by Councilman Parker that we approve this evening's agenda as presented.

[1:07:32] That motion is before us any discussion or amendments.

[1:07:38] Council on Rutherford?

[1:07:38] I just wanted to know, once we've on, are we able to read the thing about the prevailing?

[1:07:46] If you'd like to?

[1:07:47] Yeah, I would.

[1:07:48] But we're not at consent to anything else.

[1:07:49] Okay, understood.

[1:07:50] Okay.

[1:07:52] Hearing I think further, roll call, hear no amendments, no discussion.

[1:07:56] Roll call clerk, Doyle, on adoption of the motion of proving the agenda.

[1:08:00] Can you say?

[1:08:01] Yes.

[1:08:02] Goodman.

[1:08:04] Yes.

[1:08:05] James.

[1:08:06] Yes.

[1:08:07] Again, yes.

[1:08:13] The motion carries, I will proceed with this evening's agenda first, some public communications.

[1:08:20] We want to give a reminder that the City Council's pride and beautification awards are annual awards process.

[1:08:26] Nominations open, this coming may 23rd, and those nominations are open until June 30.

[1:08:33] So between May 23rd and June 30th, please nominate yourself if you believe you're deserving or a neighbor or a friend family member throughout the city of Pontiac so that the city council can celebrate community members efforts to go the extra mile and add beauty and and well maintained and well manicured

[1:08:52] This is available for businesses as well if you want to spotlight a business or other

[1:08:57] community space that you think goes the extra mile.

[1:09:01] You can contact the city council office.

[1:09:03] Any questions?

[1:09:04] Each of your city council members can assist.

[1:09:06] We'll have hard copy of the applications in our offices at future city council meetings.

[1:09:12] But you can also access them online.

[1:09:14] TinyURl.com slash Pontiac Pride and we can get that to you if you need it.

[1:09:19] So, that's the communication. Make sure you knew about that before our next city council meeting those nominations open.

[1:09:27] Next, the city council is expecting in a matter of days the finalized documents from attorneys for the city of Paniac retiree pension benefits increase that will require city council votes.

[1:09:39] City council is eager to take that action and so as soon as it's been finalized between the respective sides attorneys we will move forward.

[1:09:47] And we are even if state and ready if it needs, the City Council can call a special meeting

[1:09:54] and begin those readings and take that action so that way that can be put to bed and that

[1:10:00] process can move towards conclusion for those retirees and their beneficiaries to receive

[1:10:05] the increase that we want to make happen.

[1:10:08] And then finally, a communication later on tonight's agenda, you see an item that we've had

[1:10:13] at the previous few meetings about the potential purchase of a privately owned building at 300

[1:10:19] rest here on, often known as the former Pontiac Central High School. That's owned by various

[1:10:24] companies or portions of Lee industrial contracting. They've made it a logistics and warehouse

[1:10:31] operations. The city is considering that purchase for our public work operations and other city

[1:10:38] purposes, but we, even though it's on the agenda later tonight, this is just an early heads up.

[1:10:43] We will not be acting on it tonight.

[1:10:45] We will be postponing it when we get to that part of the agenda, because at the next

[1:10:49] regular city council meeting of June 3rd, or receive a presentation on the proposals merits,

[1:10:55] or the pros and cons, what to consider, and hold a public hearing as well for residents

[1:10:59] be able to speak specifically about that proposal.

[1:11:02] So I just want to make sure that housekeeping item was communicated from the jump.

[1:11:06] All right. Now we're at approval of the consent agenda. Is there a motion? Is there a second?

[1:11:13] That was a second? Council and rather for moves and Council and Parker seconds. Here's what's included in this evening's consent agenda.

[1:11:21] A Council or Communication and Engagement Subcommittee Meeting Minutes for April 25.

[1:11:26] City Council special meeting minutes including closed session Minutes from May 6.

[1:11:30] City Council regular meeting minutes from May 6, I want to recognize Council in Milana Jones,

[1:11:35] as President and Voting, as on the side.

[1:11:38] D, the May 13 City Council special meeting minutes from our special budget meeting.

[1:11:44] E, resolution recognizing June 10th in the City of Pontiac. F, resolution recognizing

[1:11:49] June as LGBTQ plus Pride Month. G, resolution recognizing June as men's health month.

[1:11:56] H, resolution recognizing June as black music history month.

[1:12:00] I, resolution naming the performance space that hidden river plaza in honor of the Jones Brothers.

[1:12:07] J, resolution congratulating Pontiac High School girls soccer team on their OAA gold league championship.

[1:12:13] This is their team's first ever league championship, and we extend the community's congratulations to them.

[1:12:19] Okay, resolution-approving contract with city elevator company for municipal elevator servicing,

[1:12:26] so in all of our municipal buildings that have an elevator, this is a service contract for a few years

[1:12:30] to make sure that they are properly operating.

[1:12:34] L, resolution-requesting the city attorney to review the matter and provide updated legal opinion to the city council

[1:12:40] on past development agreements involving the city of Pontiac and Stone Gate Neighborhood Infrastructure.

[1:12:46] And, resolution requesting a administration review and make recommendations on available next

[1:12:53] steps regarding stone gate neighborhood associations request to the City of Paniac on infrastructure

[1:12:59] improvements. And, resolution recognizing Mary Elam's good Samaritan deed. Oh, resolution

[1:13:06] recognizing new birth international churches work in delivering services during the winter.

[1:13:10] P, resolution-approving city transportation asset management plan or a

[1:13:16] tamp. And finally, Q, resolution to approve and sign Carlisle

[1:13:20] workmen and associates contract for temporary plan review services.

[1:13:24] They'll be providing planning, division support. They have done that in the past.

[1:13:30] Since there's been a few staff members at the party, we've got to make sure that

[1:13:33] the planning operations don't fall behind. So that's A through Q on the

[1:13:40] call adapts to the consent agenda clerk Doyle. Goodman. Yes. James. Yes. Jones. Yes.

[1:13:51] The Guinness. Yes. Marker. Yes. Brotherford. Yes. Carrington. Yes. Seven years. No

[1:13:57] days. That motion carries the consent agenda is adopted. And now during special presentations

[1:14:02] we'll highlight a few of those items from the consent agenda. With that rejection comes

[1:14:07] I'd rather you want to read into the record what we just adopted in terms of in your district,

[1:14:13] the Hidden River performance space.

[1:14:18] All right.

[1:14:21] And then afterward, on deck is Ms. Robyn C, the City of Pontiac Special Events Coordinator

[1:14:26] will be sharing upcoming signature city events.

[1:14:30] Before I read this, I just want to give you a little bit of history.

[1:14:33] Why the Johns brothers are so important to this community.

[1:14:36] The Jones Brothers were the cornerstone of musicianship in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s all the way up to just 2000s.

[1:14:43] And every place across America, they've been recognized for their inquisitiveness.

[1:14:47] They also were in a group called the Jones Boys with Quincy Jones.

[1:14:51] They played World Nine artists, such as Dizzy Gillespie, the youngest monks, Mao Davis, and a few.

[1:14:58] In the end, they were born and bred from the city.

[1:15:00] And this is the only place that they don't have anything where they recognize. And so this is an honor of them and their family.

[1:15:07] Pontiac City Council Resolution honoring the legendary Pontiac musicians, Jones Brothers by name,

[1:15:12] and the performance revealing at Head Member Plaza in their honor.

[1:15:16] Whereas the City of Pontiac Michigan, on an ongoing basis, striast to acknowledge organizations and citizens,

[1:15:20] whose lives and accomplishments have had profound impact on elevating and inspiring the community.

[1:15:26] And whereas the Pontiac City Council has had the authority to commemorate a city council,

[1:15:29] Facility, Street, or any other asset by means of a plaque,

[1:15:33] name it out there a person or some of the honor,

[1:15:35] and the city at times has bestowed a naming

[1:15:37] or renaming of a city facility or property

[1:15:39] in memory of a consequential community member.

[1:15:42] And we're asked Mr. Hank Jones, Mr. Fad Jones,

[1:15:45] and Mr. Elvin Jones, where brothers,

[1:15:47] compagnetic, Michigan, who went on to create

[1:15:50] to, excuse me, who went on to great international music

[1:15:53] acclaim and the musical genre of jazz

[1:15:56] and where masters of the piano, the trumpet,

[1:15:58] and drums respectively, and whereas though they've each since passed away, the Jones brothers were

[1:16:04] truly remarkable giants who could say to be considered by many as some of the greatest musicians

[1:16:10] to master their respective instruments. And Mr. Hank Jones was presented in the 2009 with a lifetime

[1:16:15] achievement award, Grammy Award. And whereas in downtown Pontiac, there's a public city-owned space

[1:16:22] commonly known as Hidden River, and the existing performance area per billion inside of Hidden River

[1:16:26] to not currently have a formal name.

[1:16:29] Though the idea of naming it after the Jones brother

[1:16:31] has been publicly discussed for some time by city council.

[1:16:35] Now therefore be resolved that the Paniah city council

[1:16:37] hereby approves the naming of the performance space

[1:16:39] building at the Haven Ridden Plaza and out of the Jones brothers.

[1:16:43] And request the administration to proceed

[1:16:45] with establishing a appropriate signage to reflect the prevailing

[1:16:48] of his new name and further resolve the Paniah city council

[1:16:51] on behalf of the entire community honors and celebrates

[1:16:54] the live legacy and the positive impact of Hank, that and Elvin Jones.

[1:17:03] Thank you. We now move to number one on the agenda and Mayor and Deputy Mayor, if there's

[1:17:08] nothing further, we can directly to the coordinator or anything you want to cue up.

[1:17:13] All right. Let's see you at the floor.

[1:17:17] Good evening. Council administration to all of you here in this hello chambers, as well

[1:17:23] as everyone who is viewing and are viewing audience.

[1:17:26] Good evening to you. I am pleased to announce that our third Thursdays kicked off swimmingly on last Thursday at Hidden River Park with our DJ three way.

[1:17:36] There were people of all ages present. All walks of life. They played games. They died. They danced.

[1:17:44] They enjoyed outdoor dining from Kegger, Burger,

[1:17:48] or Fillmore 13 as well as Charlene, Steater Bar.

[1:17:52] And addition, dozens of guests tried their hand

[1:17:54] at our pot in paint where they were given pots,

[1:17:57] and they were able to decorate them

[1:17:59] and then plant the flower of their choice.

[1:18:02] I'd like to thank everyone who came out,

[1:18:04] those of you on council that I saw, councilwoman,

[1:18:08] Brotherford, council president, council pro town.

[1:18:11] Thank you so much for stopping by.

[1:18:12] And I hope everyone enjoyed the fun, the fellowship, and the food.

[1:18:16] Our music in the parks, these are just some of the pictures from our outdoor gathering.

[1:18:22] The weather was wonderful.

[1:18:24] Downtown Paniak was a buzz.

[1:18:26] There were events at Treasury, Crawford, Sunset Island.

[1:18:30] It was just a vibe all day, one Thursday, part of me.

[1:18:34] Our music in the parks concert series kicks off in just under two weeks, seven shows and

[1:18:39] seven parks and seven districts.

[1:18:40] all concerts are held on Thursday night at 7 p.m. The music in the

[1:18:46] part concert series kicks off on Thursday, June 5th at Galaway Lake Park

[1:18:51] featuring Detroit Centrics with special guests, no boundaries quartet.

[1:18:57] And we'll be hosted by none other than our very own honorable councilman, William Parker.

[1:19:02] We hope that you all will join us. Remember to bring a lawn share and we will see you there.

[1:19:09] Next Saturday, June 14th is our third annual city of Pontiac, Juneteenth Freedom Day Parade and Festival.

[1:19:17] The parade begins at 3 p.m., line up for the parade, which registration is required

[1:19:23] for the parade.

[1:19:24] Line up begins at 1.30 at Chamberlain Street and Perry.

[1:19:29] The parade will travel southbound on Perry Street to University, West on University to

[1:19:34] second off and south on Saginaw Street down to fund for the whole family.

[1:19:40] At 430, the festival would kick off with Quincy Stewart, followed by Polyester Playas,

[1:19:45] Groove Session, the best you've ever had, Larry Lee and back in the day will close it

[1:19:50] out during our fireworks presentation.

[1:19:52] There will be live music, DJs, food, karaoke, vendors.

[1:19:56] We have 50 plus vendors already registered.

[1:20:00] Our kids on will have a high ropes course put, put, put, go off video game trucks, mobile bowling, face painting, fun for the whole family, parade information, contact Brenda Jay Carter, 29 of gmail.com, vendor information, Pontiac, Juneteenth at gmail.com and any other information regarding the event, please contact me at rc at Pontiac.mi.us,

[1:20:28] then on June 19th, we ask you to save the day.

[1:20:31] This is our second of five third Thursday events.

[1:20:35] It's our future forward community 1865.

[1:20:38] Please save the day that's going to be a community event held down

[1:20:41] town more details to follow.

[1:20:46] Next June 26th, Priscilla Price, with special guest free style

[1:20:50] ban at J.C. Park.

[1:20:52] And that will be hosted by none other than our Honourable

[1:20:54] Catholic Councilwoman Catholic James.

[1:20:57] Those are our events for the month of June.

[1:21:01] I hope that you will allow me to come back and extend an invitation to our festivities

[1:21:06] for the remainder of the summer.

[1:21:08] Are there any questions?

[1:21:11] Questions are feedback?

[1:21:13] Councilman.

[1:21:13] Yes.

[1:21:14] So first of all, it was an amazing event.

[1:21:16] I had a great good old time, but I have a question for the administration.

[1:21:21] Why wasn't this event advertised because it was only posted once on our Facebook page?

[1:21:26] It wasn't posted on our YouTube, and I believe you have,

[1:21:29] I'm talking about the original one we just had with it.

[1:21:32] Why wasn't it posted or properly promoted?

[1:21:36] The proper men's people didn't know about it,

[1:21:38] so that's why we didn't get the guys.

[1:21:39] And now we got about a hundred people,

[1:21:40] because I was there on a day.

[1:21:42] But we got to do better to promote, not just the Mother's Day event,

[1:21:45] not just the five-day event, not just the youth services,

[1:21:47] but also promote what Miss Seas doing,

[1:21:50] because she's doing it by herself and doing a dang on good job.

[1:21:53] So I yield to the administration to get some understanding

[1:21:55] and why it wasn't promoted properly, anybody?

[1:21:59] Mayor of Deptember.

[1:22:02] I have no comment I will look into that and make sure that we get the other events more

[1:22:09] coverage.

[1:22:11] Thank you so much.

[1:22:12] For the questions and feedback, thank you to the community members that have begun coming

[1:22:17] out.

[1:22:17] Please rally around these are your events for you and delivered by you.

[1:22:23] You know, these are Pontiac vendors, Pontiac performers, and thank you, Miss Robin, for the work you've done growing them.

[1:22:30] You saw some of the visuals, but I also want to thank April Ag, who's part of the team, that understand that she don't need a lot of the materials for that.

[1:22:39] Yeah, along with Goldner Walsh,

[1:22:41] she has, thank you to Apro, Natalie Broda did the photography

[1:22:44] and Apro spearheaded the pot and paint.

[1:22:47] So she gave residents ideas, templates,

[1:22:50] so they were able to use fabrics and jewels and beads

[1:22:53] and paint, and it was an amazing experience.

[1:22:56] So yes, thank you.

[1:22:57] And then Tim Traverson Goldner Walsh provided flower action.

[1:23:00] They did.

[1:23:01] Yes.

[1:23:02] All right, so if you want to go back to that side

[1:23:05] if it works, yep, and then give you the floor.

[1:23:08] but so that last slide had all the things to comment with anyone wants to grab that.

[1:23:15] There are, the dates will be posted, but the dates for the music in the parks, as I said, are on all on Thursdays, so June 5th, Galaway Lake, June 26th, JC Park, July 10th, Rotary Park, July 31st, Oakland Park, August 7th, North Carolina, August 28th, Murphy Park, September 4th,

[1:23:38] We'll be about that park.

[1:23:40] Thank you.

[1:23:41] Any final questions or feedback?

[1:23:42] I'm sorry.

[1:23:43] Yes, Mayor Granwell.

[1:23:46] Well, we're still looking into this.

[1:23:47] But it looks like we did do two or three videos on music in the parks, as well as the summer programs.

[1:23:57] Not sure if we're asking about the specific event third Thursday.

[1:24:04] So we're still trying to track that down.

[1:24:07] I think the video is the reference summer programs included Thursdays, but I'll dig in deeper

[1:24:13] and find out.

[1:24:14] Thank you.

[1:24:16] Yeah.

[1:24:16] Here and nothing further.

[1:24:18] I just thank you very much.

[1:24:20] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:24:21] Councilman James, that's something further.

[1:24:22] Well, I just wanted to comment that I think maybe we have had a lot of social media.

[1:24:29] The videos and everything were great, but sometimes it's good to just get hard signs out.

[1:24:36] And we used to put a large sign right there

[1:24:39] at the corner of wide track and orchard lake,

[1:24:42] which is kind of like a real key area.

[1:24:45] We used to put large signs out to publicize things

[1:24:51] that are happening.

[1:24:52] We used to have the thing that was right over the Phoenix Center

[1:24:55] that you could announce things.

[1:24:59] But we're really doing a good job with social media.

[1:25:03] But it would really help if we could figure out a way to get some hard signs out in the neighborhood, particularly in District 4, because I noticed that my residents just simply are not aware of the things that are happening in downtown.

[1:25:18] I would love to be able to get more district 4 residents involved in the things that are happening downtown.

[1:25:23] But I think getting signs in these various districts and neighborhoods would support and enhance what is already being done.

[1:25:35] And if Council can do anything to help with that, if our individual districts can do anything to help with that, I think I'd like to see that happen.

[1:25:44] Thank you. I appreciate that feedback is noted. And thank you for the invitation to your district meeting. I'll be happy to come and extend a personal invitation to your constituents.

[1:25:53] that you want to say as well. Thank you.

[1:25:55] Thank you.

[1:25:55] Comments will not hurt.

[1:25:56] Don't want to belabor the issue.

[1:25:57] But I do have a question for the administration.

[1:25:59] Is there a budget that's strictly done for promotions throughout the year for projects?

[1:26:04] And if so, can we find a new opportunity with the line out of me?

[1:26:07] The reason why I'm asking is because I just want equal playing field.

[1:26:10] So I want to know what's the number down our mountain we spend on promoting our events.

[1:26:14] I can go to the administration.

[1:26:16] I don't think we have a separate line item for that versus our overall communications department budget.

[1:26:22] But I do just want to say that actually, in terms of third Thursdays, they were posted within the summer events.

[1:26:31] On Facebook, it had 3.7,000 views, and it was posted two weeks ago, and then reposted a week after that.

[1:26:41] I'm sorry, it was posted three weeks ago, then a week later, and then additionally right before the event.

[1:26:47] in terms of these videos and post things for summer events that included Thursday, so I'm not sure what your efforts are.

[1:26:53] So, I mean, I don't want to belabor it, but I-

[1:26:55] Man, I have a recommendation.

[1:26:56] Okay, I'm sorry.

[1:26:57] Um, so we've got to move on.

[1:26:59] You've spoken for three times.

[1:27:01] Oh, it's okay. I'll get it later.

[1:27:02] All right.

[1:27:03] So, um, we are out talking on upcoming special events.

[1:27:07] Thank you for your presentation.

[1:27:12] All right.

[1:27:12] The next is a very brief special presentation,

[1:27:16] submitted what Councilor Rutherford shared a resolution

[1:27:19] that we just adopted on the consent agenda,

[1:27:23] recognizing Pontiac Good Samaritan Mary-Elam.

[1:27:27] She is watching from home, but we want to make sure

[1:27:30] that she and the community hears the city's gratitude.

[1:27:35] So here's the resolution.

[1:27:37] Whereas the city of Pontiac is blessed to have citizens

[1:27:40] who go above and beyond to look out for their neighbors, to help one another, and to strive

[1:27:44] to strengthen our neighborhoods and the bonds that keep us together.

[1:27:48] And whereas Ms. Mary Elam of Pure Sol Avenue is a longtime Pontiac resident and senior

[1:27:53] citizen who is over 90 years old, though you wouldn't know it when you see her.

[1:27:58] And whereas Ms. Elam was extraordinarily perceptive in detecting a recent gas leak in her

[1:28:03] neighborhood, alerting the authorities and assuring that the problem was to be resolved.

[1:28:08] And, whereas, thanks to her quick thinking and her good Samaritan deed, she helped prevent illness, injury, death, and destruction that could have followed.

[1:28:19] Now, therefore, be it resolved that the members of the Paniac City Council, the Mayor of Paniac, and members of this great community hereby express our gratitude,

[1:28:28] and appreciation to Ms. Mary Elam for going above and beyond to help others as a good Samaritan.

[1:28:33] And further resolved, we are cheering on Missileum as she continues to give back to our community and help her neighbors and we encourage all of our residents of all ages to strive toward Missileum's strong example of being a good Samaritan.

[1:28:48] So for Missileum watching at home, can you please join me in a round of applause, saluting, and we

[1:28:59] will be delivering.

[1:29:00] Council, and this is a constituent of Council on Rutherford on the City Council will be delivering

[1:29:06] a framed copy of the resolution soon to miss Elam and her family. Any discussion on that

[1:29:13] special presentation? Thank you again and congratulations for going above and beyond.

[1:29:19] We're at number three special presentation, City Council is a doctor of resolution recognizing

[1:29:24] new birth international church. I'm going to give the floor to Councilman James who helped

[1:29:29] off to this resolution to read what we have adopted.

[1:29:34] Yes, this is to recognize the new birth and

[1:29:37] international church for their work back in the winter when we were short spaces.

[1:29:43] Everyone knows that we had a horrendous winter.

[1:29:46] And there was a real need to get people off of the street in into places where they were safe.

[1:29:53] a new birth was willing to open their doors to make that happen.

[1:29:57] So the resolution is as follows.

[1:29:59] Whereas.

[1:30:00] The Pontiac Community face the challenging winner, whether emergency in early 2025, leaving vulnerable citizens

[1:30:08] in urgent need of services, shelter, and support, and whereas new birth international church,

[1:30:13] under the compassionate leadership of Bishop Theresa Y. Lee, opened its doors without hesitation,

[1:30:20] embodying the belief that a church should extend beyond its walls to serve the community.

[1:30:24] And whereas Bishop Theresa Wiley responded to this community crises with unwavering dedication,

[1:30:32] demonstrating her deep commitment to caring for those in need.

[1:30:36] And inspiring others to follow her lead and the emergency services at New Birth International Church,

[1:30:43] ran from January 6, 2025 to March 1, 2025.

[1:30:48] And whereas Michelle Jones, a devoted member of New Birth and Season Advocate for the Homeless,

[1:30:53] was called upon by visually to direct the emergency services operations who drew upon her extensive

[1:31:00] experience as director of emergency services at Lighthouse of Oakland County, utilizing

[1:31:06] her expertise in case management and public relations to organize and sustain the services

[1:31:13] ensuring a well-being of every individual who walk through the doors and whereas numerous

[1:31:19] community agencies, organizations, churches, and individuals came together in an extraordinary

[1:31:25] demonstration of unity and compassion, providing resources, time, and support to uphold

[1:31:31] the shelter's mission and care for our most vulnerable citizens.

[1:31:36] Therefore, be it resolved that the Pontiac City Council does hereby commend and extend our

[1:31:41] deepest gratitude to Bishop Teresa Wiedley, Mrs. Charlotte Jones, New Birth and National

[1:31:47] church and all of the community partners who contributed to the success of the temporary emergency

[1:31:53] services during the 2025 winter weather season and resolved that this resolution stands as

[1:32:02] a testament to the power of community, faith and collective goodwill. A reminder that when

[1:32:08] people come together with love and purpose, they can make a profound difference in the lives

[1:32:13] of others.

[1:32:14] Plenty of City Council may 2025.

[1:32:18] Thank you very much and thank you for making sure that that resolution came together.

[1:32:23] I want to especially acknowledge Councilman Parker who helped lead on this matter.

[1:32:29] One of the five priorities of the City Council this year is dealing with emergency preparedness,

[1:32:37] emergency interventions and Councilman Parker sacrifice greatly to make sure that the City

[1:32:42] Council's objectives for a delivered, Council and Rutherford worked extremely hard,

[1:32:47] pretend Karynton was supportive, all of the city council members in different ways in

[1:32:52] terms of our votes and an outreach and advocacy of a played a role, but I want

[1:32:56] to especially acknowledge how much time use sacrifice, Councilman Parker, to help

[1:33:02] partner with New Birth on this initiative, as there anything further you want to

[1:33:06] elaborate on.

[1:33:09] Any further discussion on this special presentation?

[1:33:13] All right. Finally, our final special presentation. We want to share this with the community

[1:33:19] before we had public comment so that way you could weigh in further or offer perspective

[1:33:23] based on what's been shared. But it's been a big priority for the city government to get our

[1:33:30] master plan updated. We are wrapping up that process. This will not be voted on tonight. This

[1:33:35] will be the first of two readings. It doesn't require that. We just want to get more opportunity

[1:33:39] for the public to see it and share their feedback and perspectives.

[1:33:45] This will be back before us on June 3rd as well.

[1:33:48] We get the floor to the mayor administration to introduce the special presentation by the team.

[1:33:54] Thank you.

[1:33:55] This has been a long and very thorough and inclusive process.

[1:34:00] I want to thank First and foremost, our planning manager, Mark Andrick.

[1:34:04] he's poured his heart and soul into this,

[1:34:06] all allow him to recap just how many opportunities for public input

[1:34:11] there have been in terms of the quantity,

[1:34:13] but I know there have been dozens of opportunities,

[1:34:16] and that's included in person town halls.

[1:34:19] It's included work sessions.

[1:34:22] It's included virtual opportunities to weigh in

[1:34:26] without people having to leave their homes.

[1:34:29] So there have been lots of opportunities,

[1:34:30] also included written comments and online comments.

[1:34:34] So there have been lots and lots of opportunities and I know we've heard from hundreds and hundreds

[1:34:38] of residents about what they wanted to see in this master plan.

[1:34:43] I also want to thank City Council members who were very involved in the process as well

[1:34:48] and have shared their thoughts and we've been able to incorporate some of those recommendations

[1:34:54] and thoughts in the plan as well.

[1:34:57] This has been a long time coming as well.

[1:35:00] only did the process take nine plus months.

[1:35:03] I think 10 or 11 months to make sure that we really came up

[1:35:07] with the best product.

[1:35:08] But it's been a long time since the city updated

[1:35:11] as master plan has been over 10 years since the city did anything

[1:35:16] to update the master plan.

[1:35:17] And so it was something that we recognized

[1:35:20] as very important that manager Yandrick put a lot of thought

[1:35:24] into along with the consultant who will be introduced here.

[1:35:27] and as a result after more than 10 years of not properly updating the city plan, we think

[1:35:34] that we've delivered a really strong product, I know it's gone, before the Planning Commission,

[1:35:40] which was enthusiastic about it, we hope that the city council will be enthusiastic about it.

[1:35:46] And most importantly, we hope the community will be enthusiastic about it.

[1:35:49] So without further ado, I want to turn it over to Planning Manager Mark Andrew.

[1:35:53] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:35:55] And I want to echo this comments.

[1:35:56] I don't need to repeat them.

[1:35:58] There's a lot that's been put into this.

[1:36:00] One of the things that I've said in many, many times, is that this master plan needs to be

[1:36:04] foundational that the city can build upon it.

[1:36:07] It needs to be respected and get the buy-in from the community and it needs to be attainable

[1:36:14] that as city officials, the public servants that I am and the rest of us are, that we can

[1:36:19] attend these goals working with our community and working with our partners.

[1:36:24] I'm going to pass it over to McKenna.

[1:36:27] John Jackson, the president is here, and also Ashley Jenkowski.

[1:36:30] They will be given the presentation about how we got to this point, but also the details about the plan itself.

[1:36:36] So with no further ado, you can come to the podium.

[1:36:39] Thank you.

[1:36:43] Thank you, Mark.

[1:36:49] Good evening.

[1:36:50] to be here tonight to share this important project with you, as the Mayor pointed out,

[1:36:57] there's been a lot of public participation in this project.

[1:37:02] A lot of people have voiced their opinions and provided us input.

[1:37:07] It was really a listening exercise on our part that has led us to this stage in the project.

[1:37:14] And of course, lots of thanks to Mark and his team who have been instrumental in shepherding

[1:37:20] this project through a very robust process that I think will serve the City of Pineyak

[1:37:27] Well for the next five years, before the next time you get to review the master plan,

[1:37:34] but over the course of that five years, really support the city's efforts to make progress

[1:37:41] implementing the ideas that are in this plan. So with that I'm going to do an overview, and then

[1:37:49] I also want to thank our team at McKenna, obviously Ashley, Junkowski, is here and she's going

[1:37:54] to help with the presentations and I'm giving you an update on what's changed since the last time

[1:37:59] we saw the plan, but really there's a lot of effort from our team at McKenna. I want to thank all of

[1:38:05] for the effort that went into this as well.

[1:38:09] So, as I mentioned, this master plan is really the foundation for a lot of efforts to come.

[1:38:15] It's the basis for your zoning and as you'll hear a little bit later on, that's one of the

[1:38:20] recommendations from this plan is that you update your zoning ordinance to align with this plan,

[1:38:26] so that the outcomes that you get from everyday planning and zoning activities furthers the

[1:38:33] ideas that are in this plan.

[1:38:36] Again, to reiterate, there was a lot of, this plan was really based on public engagement

[1:38:43] and listening and having a dialogue.

[1:38:46] There were a number of stakeholder groups, residential subcommittees, a downtown subcommittee,

[1:38:52] commercial subcommittees, so subcommittees that were put together to focus on issues that

[1:38:57] were identified early on as important to the success of this project.

[1:39:02] public engagement activities were extensive, all kinds of community workshops, virtual webinars,

[1:39:11] sort of podcast, type formats where people can participate remotely, ask questions,

[1:39:18] and then those things lived on the city's website.

[1:39:22] So everyone could have the opportunity to review those and see the conversations that we're

[1:39:28] going on throughout the course of the project.

[1:39:33] more public engagement activities, lots of listening, lots of conversations.

[1:39:42] These were, to someone's point earlier, these were written surveys, online surveys, and

[1:39:49] in-person conversations.

[1:39:52] So we tried to touch every type of interaction we could to give people with different preferences,

[1:39:59] different ways to participate in the process.

[1:40:04] So, what are the main things that comes out of this process in this listening in this dialogue is a shared vision?

[1:40:13] In the vision is that the City of Paniak will continue to be the heart of Volklon County.

[1:40:20] And aim to celebrate elements of the city's rich history while embracing and adapting to modern needs and innovations, fostering a dynamic, innovative and inclusive environment for all.

[1:40:32] Inclusive was a term that was mentioned earlier, and really what this plan strived to do as well as

[1:40:38] focusing on the assets the history of a community

[1:40:42] While looking ahead as well, what are the opportunities for the city to continue to evolve and thrive for everyone in the lives here

[1:40:52] When we started this project, it was made very clear to us that the city wanted to focus on seven key issues

[1:40:58] future land use

[1:41:00] housing in neighborhoods, development, and redevelopment, obviously, pine axon mature community and redevelopment comes with its own set of challenges.

[1:41:10] So that was one of the years we focused on historic preservation, the assets, cultural assets of the community.

[1:41:18] Downtown and commercial corridors, transportation, making it safe for everyone to get through the community both on vehicles, as well as bikes, as well as walking.

[1:41:29] And then workforce development, how can we create opportunities for people to be gainfully employed

[1:41:35] here in Paniak and improve their quality of life?

[1:41:38] These were the seven main tenants of this plan as we went through the process.

[1:41:47] This plan is unique.

[1:41:48] We've worked on hundreds of master plans at McKenna, but this plan is unique.

[1:41:54] It's unique in that each chapter is organized with the overall vision in mind, key community engagement findings.

[1:42:05] So when we had these conversations, we asked people about those seven key focus areas.

[1:42:10] And those findings are explicitly articulated in the planet itself.

[1:42:16] There's specific focus areas where redevelopment opportunities and investment opportunities are identified

[1:42:22] in maps throughout the plan, and again, each section has a clearly stated goal, objective,

[1:42:30] and targeted action plan. Each chapter has actions intended to advance the plan over the course

[1:42:38] of the next several years. So I'm going to briefly go through each of the chapters and I'm

[1:42:44] going to spend a lot of time on each one of these. Obviously I encourage everyone to dig into the plan

[1:42:49] and look at it so you can get behind it, embrace it,

[1:42:53] and be a champion of this plan over the next several years.

[1:42:57] So the future land use included goal for creating

[1:43:00] opportunities for people to use and improve their neighborhoods

[1:43:03] for improved public health and creating generational wealth.

[1:43:07] So again, a way of land use patterns

[1:43:09] to encourage reinvestment for the people who live here in the community.

[1:43:18] Housing neighborhoods strengthen residential neighborhoods

[1:43:21] with infill housing and new amenities to be a place for everyone to thrive.

[1:43:27] So again, investment within the neighborhoods, five the neighborhoods to create opportunities

[1:43:32] in the neighborhoods for people to really raise their their quality of life and create

[1:43:37] additional opportunities,

[1:43:42] development, development and redevelopment, attract and actualize

[1:43:45] new office, retail, commercial, and mixed use development that aims to serve and bright

[1:43:51] opportunities to panic residents. Again, not making redevelopment this far off concept that

[1:44:00] people from outside the community have to participate in. There are opportunities in this

[1:44:06] plan for people within the neighborhoods and within the city to invest themselves and become

[1:44:12] even more part of the success of the community moving forward. The historic preservation

[1:44:18] and prioritize and promote the preservation

[1:44:20] of Pontiac's historic buildings, places,

[1:44:23] people and events to promote legacy inclusion

[1:44:26] and opportunity.

[1:44:28] In this chapter, we went beyond the strict concepts

[1:44:32] of historic preservation

[1:44:33] and looked at other locally important assets,

[1:44:38] places, spaces that have been a long part

[1:44:42] of Pontiac's development history to build on those

[1:44:46] assets as value added assets for the community that could serve the community while moving forward.

[1:44:54] Downtown and commercial corridors. Of course, Downtown Pinyac is a key.

[1:45:00] The major asset for the community strengthened downtown as a cultural and economic hub in a way that invites residents and the workforce in the city to live, work, play, and stay in downtown, and in a way that improves connection to neighborhoods.

[1:45:16] Downtown serves a very specific function. It brings people with throughout the community together, throughout the region, together really in an open county and beyond.

[1:45:25] So this chapter really focused on how we can create ways to make downtown even more vibrant,

[1:45:33] create more opportunities for people to move and live in downtown.

[1:45:37] So it becomes more of a, you know, 18 hour place for people to be into thrive.

[1:45:48] Transportation, I mentioned earlier, here we wanted to strengthen opportunities for mobility

[1:45:53] and the quality of transportation experience is available in Piney Act.

[1:45:57] So again, people driving through the community, riding their bikes, walking, taking public

[1:46:02] transportation in between public transportation and getting to that next stop.

[1:46:11] How can we bridge those gaps and provide those opportunities and make it a way that people

[1:46:18] can enjoy, feel safe, and experience Piniac in a positive way.

[1:46:27] Workforce development, develop a communication network between local employers and residents

[1:46:32] to facilitate access to educational employment opportunities.

[1:46:36] So again, this chapter really focused on opportunities for people that live here in Piniac

[1:46:43] to improve their quality of life, either through additional employment opportunities, training

[1:46:48] opportunities, investment opportunities.

[1:46:51] And one of the interesting specific targets in this chapter, and again this is something that

[1:46:57] makes this planning unique, one of the specific targets in this chapter was that the quality

[1:47:03] of life indicators increased at a more rapid area in Pontiac than surrounding areas.

[1:47:10] That was the goal between now and 2040, so the idea was to outpace the improvement of quality

[1:47:16] life for people throughout old and county and other communities around Piniac.

[1:47:21] So that was a very unique, challenging target that came out of this plan.

[1:47:28] So with that, I'm going to turn over to Ashley to talk about the changes that come out

[1:47:36] of the 63-day review period as well as that we got from the Planning Commission.

[1:47:44] Thanks, John, and thanks for having us tonight.

[1:47:46] So since we were last at Council, there was a 63-day public comment period where we posted

[1:47:52] a draft version of Vision Paniac on the website.

[1:47:55] They were available at City Hall and that gave everyone in the community the opportunity

[1:47:59] to weigh in with their thoughts, tell us what we got right, tell us what could be added to make

[1:48:03] it a bit better, and so I'm going to walk you through what we heard and what we did to address

[1:48:08] some of those comments.

[1:48:09] So first we heard a lot of praise for Vision Paniac as a quote from our community member.

[1:48:16] This reads the plan is comprehensive and addresses the areas of most importance to the residents

[1:48:21] to ensure our bright future for this amazing city.

[1:48:24] We received a lot of compliments on the high level of detail in the plan that it was beautiful

[1:48:29] that it was graphically rich.

[1:48:31] Folks appreciated the strong focus on small scale development, the focus on quality housing

[1:48:36] in neighborhoods and the ability of the plant to really focus on Paniac's history while also building

[1:48:42] a foundation for the future people and for pedestrians.

[1:48:49] This plan was also shared out in its draft form to neighboring jurisdictions and we got

[1:48:53] some positive feedback from those folks as well. Specifically, Oakland County mentioned

[1:48:59] that vision Paniac's goals, objectives and actions are driven by public participation

[1:49:04] and that the plan works to effectively expand diverse housing options, advanced historic preservation, environmental sustainability, and simplifies zoning districts.

[1:49:14] The Michigan Economic Development Corporation also complimented the graphically rich nature of the plan,

[1:49:20] the way in which it educates readers, and some of the really strong economic development strategies that were incorporated.

[1:49:27] Some areas that we heard from the community where we needed to adjust the plans content,

[1:49:34] folks were looking for a little bit of a more focused on natural features, resilience

[1:49:38] and open space.

[1:49:39] There were some parcels on the future land use map that individuals were hoping could

[1:49:44] change.

[1:49:46] We had a request for clear map colors and legends.

[1:49:49] A continued focus on quality housing, affordable senior housing, home ownership and maintenance

[1:49:54] of historic homes, and the final opportunity was pushed for downtown specific planning as a

[1:50:02] part of something that's coming out of this master plan, as well as a focus on family

[1:50:06] friendly businesses getting those downtown making downtown a really fun family friendly

[1:50:12] intergenerational place to be. So here's what we changed after that 63-day period and after

[1:50:18] you know these conversations that we've had with planning commission and city council,

[1:50:22] The plan has incorporated a natural feature section in the introduction of the plan.

[1:50:29] It included the goal of adopting and aligning to the Oakland County Hazard mitigation plan.

[1:50:34] There are a lot of other resiliency and environmentally-friendly related actions throughout the plan,

[1:50:40] and every single chapter, and this section really compliments that.

[1:50:44] The future downtown section has been updated to reflect the city's intention to use this master plan as a launching point for future downtown specific planning.

[1:50:52] family, family, businesses have been called out as a specific land use that is encouraged

[1:50:57] in these downtown areas and all maps and legends have been updated for visual clarity.

[1:51:05] Specifically on the future land use map, which is on page 19 of the plan, but we also

[1:51:09] have large copies of it today.

[1:51:12] The golf course has been classified as civics parks on Baldwin Avenue at the east side of

[1:51:20] On Baldwin Avenue at the east side of Auburn Hills border,

[1:51:24] there's a small partial that has been reclassified

[1:51:26] as corridor mixed use.

[1:51:27] At the northwest corner of Walton,

[1:51:29] telegraph between Telegraph and Newark,

[1:51:31] it's been changed to neighborhood mixed use.

[1:51:34] Woodward Avenue on the east side at Bloomfield Township's

[1:51:36] border, the block south of MLK has been classified

[1:51:39] as community residential.

[1:51:41] But for you good off that slide, or if you go back to that slide.

[1:51:43] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:51:45] The first item, part of what residents were

[1:51:47] the golf course is a variation of what's above golf drive and what's below golf drive.

[1:51:54] So can you just recap where it landed after you've updated it?

[1:52:01] So the previous land use map from the last master plan doesn't exist in this.

[1:52:07] There's different classification systems.

[1:52:08] So the draft plan that went before Council on February 3 had civics and park for the area south of

[1:52:14] of Gulf Drive adjacent to Crystal Lake, but it actually had single family residential for

[1:52:20] north of it, which would align with the zoning district and it's something we did not catch

[1:52:23] at that time. So we appreciated the feedback from the community and we aligned that to be civics

[1:52:28] and parks. So I'm both sides that would show civics and parks. That is correct. Mayor.

[1:52:35] Yeah, the end result was both sides of Gulf Drive or civics and parks. I think you may have

[1:52:40] initially described it backwards. The part adjacent to Crystal Lake

[1:52:44] is the part north of Gulf Drive.

[1:52:46] The part south of Gulf Drive is not adjacent to Crystal Lake.

[1:52:50] So I think originally the part north of Crystal Lake

[1:52:53] was the Vicks and Parks in the draft master plan.

[1:52:57] The part south was not.

[1:52:58] Now they both are.

[1:52:59] Is that accurate?

[1:53:00] You are correct.

[1:53:01] I'm a geographer and I have to say my compass is off right now.

[1:53:04] It's an unusual time.

[1:53:05] But thank you for the team.

[1:53:06] I'm fine here because he lives right there.

[1:53:07] Yeah, exactly.

[1:53:09] Thank you for allowing me.

[1:53:10] I just knew that question was going to come up.

[1:53:11] So I wanted this slide since I had the answer to.

[1:53:13] Yeah, no, I appreciate you pointing that up.

[1:53:17] And so we, Mark and our team sat down,

[1:53:21] we went through every single comment, one by one,

[1:53:23] we had the moanics and in an Excel sheet,

[1:53:26] where we documented city staff's response,

[1:53:28] and we documented the exact edits

[1:53:30] that were made to the plan based on that comment

[1:53:32] with page numbers, and that's available on request.

[1:53:35] Just so everyone knows that we appreciate

[1:53:38] every single person who sent in comments

[1:53:40] and they were all heard.

[1:53:41] So thank you for your time on that.

[1:53:44] In case we want to look at larger versions of the maps, these are all in here happy to go back at any time.

[1:53:50] Just wanted to give everyone a recap that we were at the Planning Commission meeting on May 7th,

[1:53:56] and PC recommended to City Council to adopt Division Paniac with a few different conditions,

[1:54:02] just adding a couple of last minute edits to the plan, which include updating the future land use action plan

[1:54:08] to include two more actions, including the first two undertaker zoning ordinance update with

[1:54:12] the principles of this master plan in the short term.

[1:54:15] And the second one is to ensure and enforce adherence to development performance standards

[1:54:19] identified in the zoning ordinance as an ongoing performance measure.

[1:54:25] To include a little bit more bolded text and a logo for the Pontiac Promisone and to fix

[1:54:31] some text level edits to the acknowledgment sections that folks were able to catch.

[1:54:36] So these were the conditions with which they recommended City Council to adopt Vision Pontiac.

[1:54:44] And our next year's an overview of the adoption process.

[1:54:47] We had our 63 public, 63 day public comment period.

[1:54:51] We were at Planning Commission on May 7th.

[1:54:54] We are now at the City Council meeting on the 20th.

[1:54:57] And as the council has suggested, this is our first time here.

[1:55:00] And then the council will formally adopt this plan or choose to adopt this plan on June 3rd.

[1:55:05] ahead of vision, Pontiac implementation.

[1:55:09] And we are welcome all of your questions.

[1:55:12] Thanks for your time.

[1:55:13] Thank you.

[1:55:14] For time, let's conclude the special presentation.

[1:55:16] And now segue into number five, so that way we can open up for the first reading.

[1:55:21] Is there a motion to adopt the resolution to approve the city of Pontiac?

[1:55:23] Yes.

[1:55:24] Master plan.

[1:55:24] Is there a second?

[1:55:26] Moved by Council and Rutherford.

[1:55:27] Seconded by Council and Jones.

[1:55:29] It's now before us.

[1:55:30] And now, if you have questions, feedback.

[1:55:34] input and just to reiterate, thank you to the many, many, many, many hundreds of residents that took part of this, you know, nearly a year-long process.

[1:55:42] So, Council members, any discussion on the motion?

[1:55:44] And again, my vision others can feel differently, but that we allow some time and have it carry over to the June 3rd meeting as well for continue research and review.

[1:55:53] First, speaking of those, Councilman James.

[1:55:55] Yeah, I would just like to say I've got a lot of comments, but I will save them.

[1:55:59] The one thing I do want to mention, I do appreciate you adding about family-friendly activities

[1:56:06] because the City of Pontiac has no recreational businesses that I know of in this city,

[1:56:18] which is really sad.

[1:56:20] We used to have a roller skating rinks in this city.

[1:56:24] We had all kinds of things that our children could do.

[1:56:27] Our young people could do today. We have nothing. And I think our plan really needs to look at and try to, you know, encourage businesses who, you know,

[1:56:43] recreational kinds of businesses to come to Pontiac because we have we don't have any of those businesses. So it's good to see that you did add that to the downtown as a focus.

[1:56:54] Other questions or feedback?

[1:56:58] Protem, Karen, to notice the type of graphical item in the

[1:57:00] acknowledgments page.

[1:57:03] Protem?

[1:57:05] Yes, so you can put my correct title.

[1:57:07] I don't want to take President McGinnon's thunder.

[1:57:11] So I'm not the President on the President of Protem, so just a

[1:57:15] correction.

[1:57:17] For the discussion on this first reading of the master plan,

[1:57:22] to council members want us to continue reviewing it and bring it back on June 3rd, or is there

[1:57:27] interest in formally adopting it tonight?

[1:57:31] I will rather us bring it back so I can get a thorough reading of the whole document.

[1:57:35] As well. Okay, so do you move to postpone until the June 3rd, City Council?

[1:57:39] Yes, I'll make a move before. It's been moved by Protem Carrington,

[1:57:42] second by council in Rutherford that we postpone. So we invite the community,

[1:57:46] you can go to visionpaniac.com, take a look at all of the all the language,

[1:57:51] you can zoom in on the maps, look in detail, that was successfully done during the 63-day

[1:57:57] comment period, but share with your council person, your feedback concerns, hopes and ideas.

[1:58:03] All right.

[1:58:04] Here are nothing for their role-call clerk, or on the motion to postpone to the June 3rd

[1:58:07] meeting.

[1:58:09] Jones?

[1:58:11] Yes.

[1:58:12] McGinnis?

[1:58:12] Yes.

[1:58:13] Parker?

[1:58:15] Rutherford?

[1:58:16] Yes.

[1:58:17] Here.

[1:58:18] Yes.

[1:58:19] Yes.

[1:58:21] Yes.

[1:58:22] That motion carries the postponement. We'll move to the June 3rd City Council meeting.

[1:58:29] Thank you very much for your time tonight. And most importantly, all that work that's gone into the process.

[1:58:33] Thank you very much. All right. We're now at public comment. Are there any requests this evening?

[1:58:36] Proton current.

[1:58:37] Yes, President, we're getting a short graph.

[1:58:52] Good evening, everyone. My name is Troy Kraft.

[1:58:56] President Paniach, do I have to say my address?

[1:58:58] No, for public comment. That's just for public hearings.

[1:59:02] All right, first of all, I haven't been here since my mentor passed and you know, it's

[1:59:09] getting kind and hard to talk about, but I have to kind of bring into the, you know,

[1:59:13] collaparian to what I'm talking about next, this year as everyone knows that I run a summer,

[1:59:20] and if you don't, if you do know you don't know that I run a summer enrichment program within

[1:59:25] our fourth year, and it's called Crafty's Kids Summer Hangout, and this course was a part of

[1:59:31] last year and she was very instrumental and she would come when she was healthy to come

[1:59:36] and help out with the kids and stuff and she was very inspiring then.

[1:59:41] But this year we started our program in collaboration with also I am Pioneer with Michigan

[1:59:49] Works.

[1:59:50] We're using the work youth workers there and we're going to have our program starting June 23rd

[1:59:56] to August 2nd over at PAE.

[2:00:00] And with this encompassing of sports and enrichment, sports training, and what we allowed the youth to train the other youth, and therefore we get in power with them, and power with them at the running program.

[2:00:15] We get players of some from the basketball team to come train the small kids on dribbling the basketballs.

[2:00:21] and stuff to give them something, because that could be somewhere in the career in the basketball training,

[2:00:27] it's been money and that not, and to get our students to come.

[2:00:30] You know, it's so long.

[2:00:32] So the kids can basically run their own programs.

[2:00:34] That's why it's called the Summer Hangout.

[2:00:37] And each year, I take one of the tigers that allowed me to have over a hundred tickets in.

[2:00:43] Twice a year, we take the kids to the park, and I take the kids to the park program.

[2:00:48] because a lot of our kids don't have that opportunity

[2:00:51] of going to a tiger baseball game.

[2:00:54] So we do that each year and it's about four years

[2:00:56] we're doing it.

[2:00:57] And we also have scheduled to July 11th for our next trip there.

[2:01:03] And I want to go to another community program.

[2:01:06] Oh, Lord, I'm running out of time.

[2:01:08] Another community program, we're starting

[2:01:10] co-ed, softball over the middle dam over in district one.

[2:01:14] Thanks to Councilwoman Rutherford

[2:01:17] and Council, we're on the Catholic James and for coming in and supporting this program, it's just a collaboration to bring the families out.

[2:01:27] It's not just going to be a menace going to be women out there playing in two and it starts June 7.

[2:01:32] We have six teams already.

[2:01:34] Six teams already and we need your support, it's going to be on Saturdays.

[2:01:38] And like I said, it's a family event.

[2:01:39] If any community partners want to join in, they can come, they can contact me.

[2:01:43] and we can make this happen because I believe that our city needs this, needs this type of

[2:01:50] morale right now. One other thing I am running, I'm a right-in for Councilor.

[2:01:55] I want to talk to you much about that.

[2:01:57] Troy, craft. Your time is included and we can't talk about the election.

[2:02:02] I'm not going to say nothing about it but I got to say something.

[2:02:04] Okay, sorry to start.

[2:02:05] I'm not going to say nothing about it.

[2:02:07] I'm not going to say anything about it.

[2:02:07] Miss, thank you.

[2:02:09] Your time is included, sir, please.

[2:02:12] All right, thank you.

[2:02:12] The rule for the place is I say Jackson and get that NBA read and night for Pontiac.

[2:02:19] Mr. Coward and Jones,

[2:02:24] Ms. Correll Wiggins,

[2:02:28] Mr. Markers Bowman, all the digital

[2:02:31] watermen.

[2:02:44] Troy, I'm glad I gave him an opportunity to hone his skills and working with children when

[2:02:49] he came back from Texas and I was when I recognized him and put him as part of our youth

[2:02:54] program.

[2:02:55] So, I'm glad he's carried out and had so many programs that fit the Children of Pontiac

[2:02:59] And on a happy note, I like the way that you counsel have rewarded and awarded and recognize

[2:03:07] so many of our youth who have achievements and one awards and one that contrasts and that's great

[2:03:14] to recognize the value and the achievements of our own native sons and daughters right here in

[2:03:29] Some of you already know about this, but she is an executive producer and California.

[2:03:34] And right now she had a show series that premiered on Netflix.

[2:03:38] You seen it already, call forever.

[2:03:41] So I would just like to talk to you about that.

[2:03:42] It's gotten re-reviews premiered last week and it's already been announced.

[2:03:46] They're going to pick it up for a second season.

[2:03:49] So I just like to talk about that.

[2:03:51] I mean, if you remember her when she started out right here in Pontiac,

[2:03:55] I was selling costumes for her when she was in Pontiac Theatre for, and look at her now.

[2:04:00] So, a lot of people who know that she's out there, and some of you have other stars

[2:04:04] who are out there in California, where we're trying to be writers or producers, and many

[2:04:09] people ask me if Shana would talk to them if they came, how they get started in the business,

[2:04:16] and she has done that just so many to pass that on.

[2:04:18] So, I just want to mention that, I can't help being a proud mom, but I'm also a very proud mother

[2:04:22] of Pontiac native daughter, came right from here.

[2:04:28] Sorry, a topic that I brought up before

[2:04:31] that I want to finish that we want to investigate.

[2:04:34] And Council, I hope you will pick up on this, too.

[2:04:37] And some of you were here when Dave Coleman,

[2:04:41] very respected by our community,

[2:04:42] talked about a letter he had gotten,

[2:04:45] threatening to, whose house was going to be on demolition list,

[2:04:49] if he didn't allow an inspection,

[2:04:51] I thought that that was outrageous.

[2:04:52] And so I talked to him to see if that had been cleared up.

[2:04:55] Chem to find out there were 666 people and properties on that list.

[2:05:01] So I'm wondering of all 6666 got the same letter or if you cleared that up beforehand

[2:05:07] or maybe just sent out to certain civic people.

[2:05:10] But I think we should look into that council.

[2:05:14] I think he got finally a resolution, but when he told me about it, he said this was something

[2:05:19] There was back from 2006 that already been cleared up.

[2:05:23] So why would this, something's a muck when the administration is picking up, something

[2:05:29] that has already been cleared up from 2006, 19 years ago, and sending people those kind

[2:05:33] of threatening letters, that is uncalled for, I hope you will make sure you take your economic

[2:05:38] development, building the department to task, and so people won't be subject to those

[2:05:43] kind of threatening letters which are uncalled for.

[2:05:46] Thank you, Dr. Waterman. Mr. Chuck Johnson.

[2:05:55] Thank you very much and good evening.

[2:05:57] I'm still very concerned about some old thoughts,

[2:06:00] as it relates to the streets in Paniac.

[2:06:03] I know each of you drive through your respective areas.

[2:06:07] You have to see the debris that's on the street.

[2:06:11] The street sidewalk by the curb wherever the streets we can't get that.

[2:06:16] But we have all these employees and all these trucks.

[2:06:20] Now, there's no reason why in your respective areas that you can't request your employees to pick up

[2:06:30] large pieces of trash that could be thrown into the truck and then carried to a dumpster

[2:06:36] as specified so that we can clean the city up. The city's not being cleaned up.

[2:06:43] We buy in a lot of trucks, we buy in a lot of people, but we're not getting anywhere.

[2:06:48] the city still looks like hell. Then it's not fair to us.

[2:06:55] Why does the street continue being blocked

[2:06:56] off and closed between Jesse and Sanford? Now I'm gonna tell you something. You drive down

[2:07:03] there and you'll see why. I'm gonna let that curiosity stand within your own brain. You'll see why

[2:07:08] blocked off. Also, let's see what streets that I can't get it out. But anyways, there was

[2:07:20] another street in my mind regarding the debris and the ugliness that were hopeful to try

[2:07:26] to clean up. We're hopeful that each of you were looking at your areas and finding out

[2:07:32] why our DPW department is not letting these guys pick up this trash. It's a lot of them.

[2:07:38] I mean, just big pieces, that helps clean up the city.

[2:07:44] And then, if we ever get a good street sweeper,

[2:07:47] at least we'll have something that can go down the curb

[2:07:49] and sweep it up.

[2:07:54] Let's see.

[2:07:56] I had a lot of things in my mind.

[2:07:58] I'm not going to try and kill my thought.

[2:08:01] But it's important that we clean the city up.

[2:08:04] And the easiest way to do that is utilize iron employees.

[2:08:07] Even if you have to specify a truck and a individual to go through your district, at least once a week and pick up a large items and throw it in the truck and haul it to the dumps to be got a garbage dump right out here in the parking lot.

[2:08:24] Throw it in there. Just get rid of it and clean our city up. Thank you.

[2:08:30] Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Julius Smith, Jr.

[2:08:36] Is it Lorraine Lazzano?

[2:08:41] Dr. Nostate Wright forgive me if I did.

[2:08:50] Okay, been here before.

[2:08:52] I'm Lorraine Lazzano, representing Stone Gate Point.

[2:08:56] And I'm here to talk about our roads that have been completed

[2:09:00] for over 20 years.

[2:09:04] We started with agreements with the City of Pontiac,

[2:09:07] the Pontiac Tiffa and a developer

[2:09:09] to do a project off of Elizabeth Lake Road.

[2:09:14] We now have 461 units, but we still don't have our roads completed.

[2:09:20] The city so bonds in order to get the financing for infrastructure of stone gate, but

[2:09:27] again the roads are not completed.

[2:09:29] So I'm here asking today for money from the city to help us complete our roads, and the reason

[2:09:37] is because there were agreements, actual agreements made to do that process back in 2001.

[2:09:45] I would also like to invite the council to come to our community so that they can get

[2:09:51] a feel of what it is we're dealing with.

[2:09:54] We keep our houses nice but our roads are not.

[2:09:59] When I was here before I did show pictures of some of the roads, but there are guarantees

[2:10:03] needs in those agreements that our project was to be completed in about three years.

[2:10:11] Of course that has not happened because I'm talking about from 2001.

[2:10:17] I'm asking for $3 million to go along with the million dollars that we already have.

[2:10:25] Again, I'd like to invite you out so that you can see for yourself.

[2:10:29] Thank you.

[2:10:30] Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Vald Rose.

[2:10:38] Okay.

[2:10:41] Mr. Lewis Jenkins.

[2:10:46] Mr. Gerald Allen.

[2:10:52] It's a Renado Hunden.

[2:11:02] Even in every one, my name is Renato Hard.

[2:11:05] I'm a resident of Stone Gate Point.

[2:11:07] Just wanted to say since I became a member of Pontiac back in 2000.

[2:11:15] We started the construction 2001.

[2:11:18] One, we moved in after completion of the construction and 2003.

[2:11:27] We've been here ever since, and every year, we paid our taxes.

[2:11:36] We paid everything that was asked of us.

[2:11:41] The only thing that we're asking, we understand that there was a recession.

[2:11:49] We understand that there was a receivership.

[2:11:53] We understand that there was an emergency manager.

[2:11:57] We understand all of that, but what we don't understand is when are we going to do what's

[2:12:07] right for the citizens?

[2:12:10] not just the ones that are in District 2, as someone stated earlier, when you look at the

[2:12:19] roads of Pontiac, the patchwork is okay, but if we have to reach out to the federal government,

[2:12:31] the county, the state, we need to do whatever we can do to get these roads fixed.

[2:12:41] We've had developers, after developers, builders, after builders coming go.

[2:12:50] We had council members coming go.

[2:12:53] We've had mayors coming go.

[2:12:57] Let's do something about it.

[2:12:59] It's time. We can't just keep turning the blind eye saying, okay, everything is good,

[2:13:10] or we'll research it. I've been here network for 23 years. We'll research it. Let's do something

[2:13:18] about it. Let's do something about it. It's time. Thank you, Mr. Herndon. Mr. Nade Beckley?

[2:13:44] A corporate beggar in the Oxford Dictionary is defined as a person perceived as a

[2:13:53] scrupulous opportunist.

[2:13:58] Timeline, how might begin this month for office.

[2:14:04] 2016, he was, I guess, elected, I guess it was the 15th of 2015 election, but he

[2:14:11] to sell in school board the first time in 2016.

[2:14:15] 2020, November the third, he got third place out of three candidates.

[2:14:20] Gil Garrett, Kevin Gross, Mike McGinnis.

[2:14:23] Mike McGinnis is in combat.

[2:14:26] It's strange for the incumbent to get third place.

[2:14:29] I'll tell you why, at the time,

[2:14:31] pay its test scores, math for this is all school-wide students.

[2:14:36] 10% math.

[2:14:38] This is what pay is students do.

[2:14:40] read is 17% science 14% so and then the science 38% statewide reading 45% statewide

[2:14:51] and math is 34% statewide let's move on January 2021 he's sworn in his second

[2:14:58] because he won the election.

[2:15:02] This is the same year. September the 13th, 2021, he filed to run for city council because he was not in the primary. So he's just going to jump on the rates. So he just sat there not about nine months and he's going to abandon the seat, abandon the private school children to run for city council because it's not working well. Oh, it doesn't pay as much.

[2:15:26] The bearer, the second 21 wins, the right in can date miraculously how you

[2:15:32] going to spell McGinnas and he's really wasn't out there, just just seven, I don't know what

[2:15:37] happened, but Perry did do it a mal, but that's probably why.

[2:15:41] Now, we moved out to January 2022.

[2:15:46] He's mourning as a consul person later on in that week, they elect him president this year.

[2:15:55] It's only been three years he follows the run for mayor.

[2:15:58] So he abandoned the seats.

[2:16:00] They don't care about the quiet kids, it's the kids, it's the kids, the kids, I can

[2:16:03] tell you it's the kids.

[2:16:05] So that sounds opportunists to me.

[2:16:07] You know, just make it this way over and then we don't come sliding and over, he was

[2:16:11] on there before.

[2:16:12] So he just decided not to run again.

[2:16:13] So you get two boats, two black mines up there.

[2:16:16] And that's how they go.

[2:16:17] They've been voting like that ever since.

[2:16:19] So now I proceed to you, I proved that Michael was a commit to felon, running for

[2:16:26] You're already getting paid by and why don't you get a job there?

[2:16:30] You need to.

[2:16:31] You're both in favor for them.

[2:16:33] And now you're banned to your school board seat.

[2:16:35] I can say no more, and you run it from mayor.

[2:16:38] Who wants that?

[2:16:39] I don't.

[2:16:40] I don't.

[2:16:41] Paris, this is who abandoned your children.

[2:16:44] Might begin this.

[2:16:45] So if you want to miss your mayor, that should be it.

[2:16:47] Thank you, Ms. Beckland.

[2:16:49] I can close your public comments.

[2:16:51] A. It's B. Maxi, Prince Carr.

[2:17:01] Mr. Carr, did you want to speak tonight?

[2:17:06] Okay. Pastor Kathy, does it rule?

[2:17:20] The presentation, when you hear people say this council hasn't done anything.

[2:17:27] Ten years since that's been updated folks, that was beautiful and beautifully done.

[2:17:32] I was absolutely captured until we got to the parks and golf course.

[2:17:38] I'm so sad to see the golf course gone completely because I think that is our last hope for something that's public that a lot of the adults and kids can do together.

[2:17:50] We are two to five years from having our rec center.

[2:17:54] We don't have any place and we didn't have golf course and there were parents and kids playing golf out there I know because I was one of them.

[2:18:08] Second point,

[2:18:12] I want to thank this council for what they have done.

[2:18:15] Sometimes when you're building from the ground up, you can't always see what's being done.

[2:18:23] That master plan is a work of art to say nothing of all of the different pieces of that

[2:18:29] incorporates.

[2:18:30] That's what they've been doing with that planning committee.

[2:18:35] What an incredible piece of work that is.

[2:18:38] That didn't happen overnight.

[2:18:40] And yes, they're probably being mistakes in it.

[2:18:43] Well, life is full of mistakes.

[2:18:45] But overall, that's a brilliant piece.

[2:18:48] And well done.

[2:18:50] And I want to thank them for it.

[2:18:51] And I want to thank this committee, this council.

[2:18:57] You take in so much abuse.

[2:19:00] And yet you work on, and you work on, and you work on, because that's why you're here.

[2:19:07] And you all have different reasons for being here, but in the end, you're all Pontiac.

[2:19:15] In the end, what you do becomes part of Pontiac.

[2:19:22] And I was personally very pleased to see the historic piece of the Master Plan.

[2:19:28] There's so much history here, so much history, the jazz.

[2:19:34] When I was a youngster, we used to come up here to Pontiac, and we listened to the jazz

[2:19:40] bands.

[2:19:41] They were nobody then, they got to be somebody, and now they're gone.

[2:19:47] But we've got new somebody's taking their place, and we don't pay any attention to that.

[2:19:54] The Quincy's group, if you haven't heard Quincy Stewart's group, you miss something.

[2:20:01] They are good. Have you ever heard Melanie Sing, Ella Fitzgerald Jr., that's a homegrown girl.

[2:20:11] We need to support our own and remember that these kids that are in high school today have never had

[2:20:19] what our kids for years from now possibly could have.

[2:20:24] That does conclude your time.

[2:20:37] Good evening, Council Mayor, Deputy Mayor.

[2:20:40] I wanted to get up to kind of clarify my thoughts on the master plan as it relates to the golf course.

[2:20:51] I have on a golf outfit today because I played golf this morning and you guys know it's not warm out there.

[2:20:59] Um, but the golf course was formally coded as a residential, that was why Mr. Parker

[2:21:09] who owns the golf course, not that Mr. Parker, that's why Mr. Parker who owns the golf

[2:21:15] course thought he could sell the golf course to a developer who would turn the golf course

[2:21:22] into more homes.

[2:21:25] Our golf course is a golf course.

[2:21:27] There are rumors that the Pope family in Birmingham, they built the Penguin House at the zoo.

[2:21:36] They are not a family without funds.

[2:21:40] They offered a substantial amount to the golf course and the golf course turned it down because

[2:21:48] he was so intent on selling that golf course for a development.

[2:21:54] As I understand it, Mr. Yandrick, now the golf course has a zoning as civic recreational

[2:22:05] or something like that. Civic park, which means it is a golf course. And so we have

[2:22:13] not lost the golf course. It still is a golf course, and the language of our master plan

[2:22:21] says that those lands will remain as such. Now, could the golf course be sold? Could the city

[2:22:30] does the city have the funds to buy back the golf course? I don't know, but I'll give

[2:22:35] you an example. Very recently, an NFL player bought a golf course, but it was a country club.

[2:22:45] Now some of you have been to a country club, ours is not a country club, ours is a golf course, it's a municipal golf course, it has a club house, it has men's rooms, ladies room, no showers, no lockers, it's a golf course.

[2:23:02] This gentleman bought a country club with a formal dining room and he paid less than 4.4 million for it.

[2:23:14] Our Mr. Parker was asking 6.3 million for a golf course that he paid 5.550,000 dollars for.

[2:23:25] That is what a carpet battery is, Mr. and A.

[2:23:29] So I just want to make it clear.

[2:23:33] We have not lost our golf course.

[2:23:35] And for those of you who have youngsters,

[2:23:38] who would like to play golf course sits waiting

[2:23:41] and we have people waiting to help them.

[2:23:43] Thank you.

[2:23:45] Ms. Darling Clark.

[2:24:00] Good afternoon, council administration.

[2:24:03] Sometimes when you come behind people once again,

[2:24:05] you have an opportunity to get a clear team.

[2:24:07] And thank you, Ms. Rice, for giving clarity for the golf course.

[2:24:11] A lot of the properties that was sold off during emergency

[2:24:13] management, they got them for really, really, really cheap.

[2:24:17] You got schools, six schools, the three schools being

[2:24:20] bought for less than $250,000, they turned it to me,

[2:24:23] and it out of profit.

[2:24:24] And I say that because the old Pontiac Central school

[2:24:28] was one of those schools that was sold as a package,

[2:24:30] and got it for $600,000 along with other schools,

[2:24:34] which is frankly, there's another one they have.

[2:24:35] of this implying property school.

[2:24:38] Now, Lee want to turn over and make $12 million from the citizens of Paniay to get it

[2:24:43] and turn it into a rex to our office for the city.

[2:24:47] Whatever they want to turn it into, they want to sell it for $12 million back to the city,

[2:24:53] which is very sad.

[2:24:55] But the sad part about is that the council have the opportunity to vote on that to see

[2:24:59] it.

[2:24:59] Do you want your residents to pay that tax?

[2:25:03] No, and Lee is good.

[2:25:04] Please don't misinterpret that.

[2:25:06] Take a very good care of their properties that they have.

[2:25:11] But once again, they only bought it for $600,000 from the city of Pontia to make $12,000.

[2:25:17] Ooh, that's a lot of money they're making.

[2:25:20] And let's say this too.

[2:25:21] You wonder why people don't come to Pontia?

[2:25:24] What do we have to offer people in return?

[2:25:27] You want something, but you don't know what you want.

[2:25:30] You take less of the value that you want to give your resident,

[2:25:33] but you stand with egos bigger than the value of what you're asking for business people.

[2:25:38] And I say that because, if you got the retirees waiting for a picture that they so

[2:25:43] dearly earn, that's not very good value, it's this next ego sitting in a way to see what

[2:25:48] happen next. But then we got schools that's closing. We really got one school for high school.

[2:25:55] And it's not even, it's standing on not even one leg, it's standing on a half leg. But yet,

[2:26:00] You sit here and says, what do we have?

[2:26:03] The fact is very insulting to the people.

[2:26:06] And I say this very sensitive that they're

[2:26:08] counseling.

[2:26:09] And this is not brow-beating.

[2:26:10] And you're not trying to beat you.

[2:26:12] It's one resident want to put it.

[2:26:13] I'm trying to give you clarity to answer your question

[2:26:16] counselment, James.

[2:26:17] You sit there with Eagles bigger than probably the seats

[2:26:20] that you sit in, but yet you want to say

[2:26:22] that you're being pegged with.

[2:26:23] And you allow a resident to continue to come

[2:26:25] to this mic to put public that you're being pegged with.

[2:26:28] You're not.

[2:26:29] The people are trying to give you a hands-up of what's really going on so you can handle

[2:26:34] an professional manner that you was voted in to do, but yet you still have to let a resident

[2:26:39] come here and say that you're a being browbeat and your whole attitude is that you are always

[2:26:44] just mistreating you as far as from the truth. Not a panic resident that I know, not been here

[2:26:51] seven years plus, have mistreated anybody. Their homes and hearts are very open to the people of

[2:26:59] and do your job.

[2:27:02] Thank you, Ms. Clark.

[2:27:03] Ms. Gloria Miller.

[2:27:11] First one, start off with the master plan.

[2:27:16] I'm talking to the citizens of the panic when I come here.

[2:27:20] Okay.

[2:27:21] We got the master plan.

[2:27:22] It looks great.

[2:27:25] But it's all political.

[2:27:26] Why did you take you through damn years to get it done?

[2:27:28] You've been up there for three years.

[2:27:30] Everything's being done.

[2:27:32] Stay focused, panic.

[2:27:34] election election election we could talk early to the last six months but now we can

[2:27:40] come first now maybe because of the election we couldn't get what we want to

[2:27:46] come down you didn't listen to us maybe it's because of their election in

[2:27:51] August this is your time to speak this is your time to talk you know what you

[2:27:56] seeing with your eyes for three years and it's a city so great why in the

[2:28:01] the mayor leave.

[2:28:05] Ash is still there. If he's doing so great, why is he leaving?

[2:28:11] Maybe because

[2:28:12] the bridge is not done? The community is shooting is not done? And Gers is not done. And now I'm

[2:28:19] going to get to Gers. Now I wasn't at the last meeting, but Ms. Clark was there, so she informed me

[2:28:23] that the mayor escaped voting again. He asked for another study. Gers members are not there,

[2:28:32] he's prolonging it. Now, that's to me because the mayor's leaving. He's leaving for a reason.

[2:28:40] But you know what? You guys voted for a 90 percent of what he wanted. 90 percent.

[2:28:47] That's fat. You have made the girls people suffer for three and a half years. I have said it to you.

[2:28:55] going to say to you probably because I don't mind the people that know me. I speak what I say

[2:29:00] what I mean. I mean what I say. He didn't put it off for another 45 days to do another study.

[2:29:06] We just did a study. There's no just did a study. You keep groundbreaking this. We're not waiting

[2:29:12] eight months. Eight months you're being off. Somebody being off. We want to settle. Oh, we go get

[2:29:20] out here in the street and we don't tell people what's really going on because I don't know what's

[2:29:23] what I do. I know what's going on. Everybody coming down how would we how would the city look so great. It's okay. This city's that's a tail.

[2:29:34] I keep my house clean. And my street clean. We got neighborhood and don't get me wrong. We got people here in the city got beautiful home. Don't get me wrong. But we got places here where they ride and they probably want to turn their ears. Food and stuff all over the street. We got we can do better than this. This money.

[2:29:54] that we got, no community center, no ML.

[2:30:00] Okay, I'll bridge. And if we're doing so great, why in the hell is the mayor leaving us? Think about that.

[2:30:10] Thank you, Ms. Miller.

[2:30:21] I have one more public comment that came in. Based on the opportunity for those that are disabled to speak to council. This is from Charles Blackwell.

[2:30:35] He states, good evening. Since the Pontiac City Council was voting tonight to recognize the month of June as black music. History month.

[2:30:43] The cost of him a kill, good men should tell the public if he has ever been to our

[2:30:48] Cali or Diddy concert before.

[2:30:53] President McGinnis, I can close a public comment.

[2:30:56] Public comment has concluded where a recognition of elected officials, are there any current elected

[2:31:01] officials that want to give an update on the positions they hold?

[2:31:05] Hearing none, we're now at agenda address.

[2:31:09] Is there any requests for President Carrington of residents who want to speak to items on tonight's

[2:31:14] agenda?

[2:31:14] I'll yes, President of the Guinness.

[2:31:16] Mr. Carlton Jones, I don't see three and four.

[2:31:30] Yeah, I want to also speak to the master plan.

[2:31:36] The master plan is a real key piece for our city, and it's a lot of intricate parts that

[2:31:43] master plan.

[2:31:45] And our city right now is up under master planning.

[2:31:49] So I just want all of us to be very conscious of.

[2:31:53] are we going to be proactively a part of this plan because Pontiac is truly changing with

[2:32:00] this mass of plan and everybody needs to understand when zoning changes, areas changes,

[2:32:07] we have to be able to be willing to change with a lot of these changes this admin.

[2:32:12] And we have to have elected people who want to be proactively making sure the residents are

[2:32:18] part of the change in an including of the changes, because there's no ifans and

[2:32:23] butts about it, this master plan sometime can be guided by outside sources, who

[2:32:30] desire to do certain things in our city, and there's nothing wrong with us coming

[2:32:34] in elevating, but we truly, truly need to be looking at the opportunity for us to

[2:32:40] be to make sure residents are at the forefront, especially long-term residents have

[2:32:46] year for years at the forefront of all the decisions being made.

[2:32:51] And one thing that we have to be very conscious is checks and balances need to be in place.

[2:32:56] So when it comes around to looking at the details of anything that we're doing, especially

[2:33:02] in master plan in our city, we need to be very conscientious of residents first.

[2:33:09] I say this because I know it's very difficult to project the future, but we need to be

[2:33:17] talking about how we take our residents to another level and they be in the forefront

[2:33:24] of our mind of everything we do.

[2:33:27] Every decision is being made, you should be a resident's first.

[2:33:33] Somehow another I think that is sometimes missed, but that is what we are looking for, especially

[2:33:39] are elected counsel people to be checks and balances for whatever happens with these department

[2:33:44] people who come and lead and put recommendations and especially when recommendations follow

[2:33:50] to this master plan. I want to say I apologize for not being here. This is my golf season

[2:33:56] time so I'm a little late. I missed our opportunity but we got a big full agenda here and I'm

[2:34:04] state eagerly attended to see how these tanks pan out.

[2:34:09] Thank you.

[2:34:10] Thank you, Mr. Jones.

[2:34:11] Dr. Digital Waterman, what items on the agenda?

[2:34:26] Three and four were the master plan, which you are going to perhaps vote on this evening.

[2:34:33] And I just want to remind you and to ask, housing city was supposed to be done concurrently

[2:34:40] with the master plan.

[2:34:42] And that's really important.

[2:34:42] I just wanted a house to, and that's going to be done.

[2:34:45] It's maybe a particular interest to this community, which has been 56% rental, that where

[2:34:54] is the home ownership, which helps the stabilizers, is that increasing?

[2:34:58] And one of the things that we have brought in the our money form was to help our homeowners

[2:35:03] and stabilize their ownership in their properties so that we could increase that.

[2:35:09] One of the things that housing studies should also show us is that as we are increasing all

[2:35:14] economic development, and that's a good thing.

[2:35:16] We're bringing that in and brought in, you know,

[2:35:17] so much economic development starting with all the big industries

[2:35:22] that we brought into the city under the administration

[2:35:25] about the ninth council was here.

[2:35:27] But as we do that, we see the prices are going up.

[2:35:29] But we hear people talking about that their rental prices are going

[2:35:33] up, and some of them are talking about they can no longer afford to be

[2:35:36] here, and that is not something under their control.

[2:35:39] So I hope that the housing today will help you realize.

[2:35:43] But things you need to put in place in order to protect the citizens who are here and make sure that they can stay in their homes and make sure they can afford to be in the community.

[2:35:55] One of the other projects that I won't go into that I don't have time for that, but anyway, the housing state, let's find that and let's see what that, how that guides us.

[2:36:03] The other thing is you've seen the budget and there is something on the agenda that says you might approve the budget this evening.

[2:36:10] And what I brought up during the last public hearing,

[2:36:15] I'm just going to repeat that again because I think it's an important point.

[2:36:19] One of the most important things that people want when they talk about their things that they want to improve,

[2:36:23] and the money that is spent on, and Taniak, nine out of ten people will talk about the roads,

[2:36:29] prepare the roads.

[2:36:30] As I look at the budget that you have gotten from the mayor,

[2:36:35] which you are apparently haven't made major changes,

[2:36:38] So I don't see a line on them in there to pay for roads, repair.

[2:36:42] So where is that coming from, and how are you going to allow for that and our budget

[2:36:47] and our spending, given the fact that that's the most important thing to so many people.

[2:36:51] The other thing is that it's the Youth Brexit Center, they're supposed to be $10 million, plus

[2:36:57] the $3.2 million that the council left when I was mayor for the Youth Brexit Center.

[2:37:03] Where I don't see where that $10 million was coming out of the budget.

[2:37:06] Okay, can you tell us where that is?

[2:37:08] So, don't let's give the people the correct answers and let's make sure that the things

[2:37:13] that they value and that they, they said I'm going to be paid for, that are somewhere

[2:37:17] a lot at four and then we don't get prizes at the end saying, oh, we have to be charged,

[2:37:25] bees and pay bonds for things that you told us that. That does conclude you. Should be happy.

[2:37:30] We should have. Thank you, Dr. Water and Mr. Chubby. Johnson, what items?

[2:37:40] I'm very concerned about these dollars that's been asked for and spent, for an example,

[2:37:49] over a million dollars, to redo the roads at Center Point Parkway and Middle Street down

[2:37:59] that.

[2:38:00] These streets are being used by people who work at the mortgage company over there.

[2:38:07] And they're being used by the contractor who has the back plan in the back.

[2:38:14] Those heavy trucks.

[2:38:16] Now while we spend over a million and a half dollars, the research of those streets,

[2:38:22] and they're just getting tore up.

[2:38:24] Is it appeased somebody in that business down there or what?

[2:38:28] Are you guys blind and can't see?

[2:38:31] What's going on here?

[2:38:33] We need these dollars to be spent on pat, pat, pat, up, row,

[2:38:39] period of pike street out here from the east to the west.

[2:38:44] It's terrible.

[2:38:45] There's a lot of streets that we can spend this money on,

[2:38:50] that we need to spend on where the citizens can benefit from.

[2:38:54] And not some private individual.

[2:38:56] And that's what's happening if I understand it correctly.

[2:38:59] It don't make sense.

[2:39:01] to spend these kind of dollars.

[2:39:04] Further, the contractor, who you want to submit a contract

[2:39:10] to based on this, co-loc construction,

[2:39:14] then not even in city compliance.

[2:39:17] So what is that, Jesse Street and whatever street?

[2:39:23] They're not even in compliance in the city.

[2:39:25] They utilize a residential property for their business,

[2:39:29] construction business, but for some reason, I folk don't see that. It don't make sense.

[2:39:38] Somebody has to, you know, clean your glasses, open your eyes, do something, but see, you

[2:39:44] given these contracts out to these contractors, I don't care no more. I don't, I don't, I don't,

[2:39:51] almost said it. I don't even care anymore. What you do as it relates to these contracts,

[2:39:56] But all you're doing is cheating your own citizens, how to opportunity.

[2:40:03] These young folks don't stand a snowball's chance in and downside to it is you guys are sitting

[2:40:10] up there.

[2:40:12] It's almost a close of the year of your tenure and still haven't done anything.

[2:40:17] Another thing, they're tearing down the fingers, plazzing.

[2:40:22] They went in higher, they're trucking company, they got trucking companies, but nobody stood up

[2:40:28] for local, participant, participation, excuse me, I got that, crossed up.

[2:40:36] This is where you guys come in at, this is where you need to be looking to help the citizens,

[2:40:41] but now you want us to help you, you want us to help you get back in their seats, make

[2:40:49] You want to see, you get over there where he's at.

[2:40:52] You might make it.

[2:40:54] But look at what you're doing in the meantime.

[2:40:57] You're not doing anything to help the folk.

[2:41:00] You guys act like you scared.

[2:41:03] I've been preaching down every year.

[2:41:05] They'll do it any good.

[2:41:08] Wake up, say something, do something.

[2:41:11] Thank you.

[2:41:13] Thank you, Mr. Johnson.

[2:41:14] Pastor, I don't have to do this at all.

[2:41:17] I don't say how to this gentleman, Raddy, with you great here.

[2:41:19] He knows me and I know him.

[2:41:22] Ms. Darling, Clark, what items?

[2:41:27] You said three and what else, ma'am?

[2:41:39] Hi there again.

[2:41:42] Let's talk about the master plan.

[2:41:45] You know, they say if you say things nicely, people

[2:41:47] will understand how to relate to you.

[2:41:51] Apparently a lot of people don't know how to relate to me

[2:41:53] because I actually have to say it like it really is.

[2:41:56] Kind of like, boom, boom, boom, boom, when I've had enough.

[2:42:00] Mr. Carlton Jones, who I grew up with, put it very clearly on the people that's been hired

[2:42:06] for the master plan that was going on.

[2:42:09] So let me say it like this, with the public's been saying it like a lot of people in

[2:42:13] Pernicus saying, and this is no offense to guess anybody that was hired to do this job, but

[2:42:18] it does fall on the mayor's lap.

[2:42:21] Mayor, you hire a company to come in here who had no experience and no recollection to what

[2:42:28] and how panic is running and what panic need.

[2:42:32] You hire Mark and Mark, this is no thing against you as well

[2:42:35] because you was hired to do a job.

[2:42:37] And someone always told me, don't hate the player, hate the game.

[2:42:41] And the game he played was, he bought Mark in here

[2:42:44] to actually to speak on the behalf of the people.

[2:42:49] That's said, for the city of Panet.

[2:42:51] But what Mark does, he speak on the behalf of the business

[2:42:54] person, he seems to support them more

[2:42:56] and he will support the residents.

[2:42:57] But yet he's doing his job, how he was told to do it.

[2:43:01] He hired other people to come in here.

[2:43:05] That's not even from the city of Pontan, but now one time there that you select, people

[2:43:10] that has not been on these committees, I'm not yet, you pick anybody to come in here and

[2:43:18] get be the voice of the people instead of the same people, board after boards, see that

[2:43:24] to see. You need fresh faces. You need someone to start a committee and I've said this

[2:43:29] with Ms. Catholic Council and James. You need fresh voices to see what you guys

[2:43:34] cannot see. You cannot see what the people are saying to you because you're taking it

[2:43:40] personal. You cannot see their title paying the tax loan waiting for a rex center. You cannot

[2:43:45] see that their title, the one person coming to the mic and saying the same thing over and over

[2:43:51] Because now the people think they're arguing you're not seeing what the dream and the vision that each district have each people in each district have

[2:43:59] You don't listen. I have been to a lot of district meetings. Oh, yeah

[2:44:04] You guys cared it pretty good, but you never wants to ask what it is

[2:44:08] They're verbally that the people can work together to improve the city

[2:44:12] There's always these little eagles that set on these little boars as counsel and y'all but he has with each other to nothing gets done

[2:44:20] Maybe you have but it has what Councilman.

[2:44:23] This is the master plan I am speaking about,

[2:44:25] because you so clearly put it very clear

[2:44:27] that the master plan is what started.

[2:44:30] Pontiac can help Pontiac start.

[2:44:32] That is not true either.

[2:44:34] The people of Pontiac in the 60s

[2:44:36] is the one who helped dress Pontiac

[2:44:38] to what it is today.

[2:44:40] Thank you, Ms. Clark.

[2:44:42] Ms. Gloria Miller, what items?

[2:44:45] Okay, master plan.

[2:44:46] Okay, thank you.

[2:44:58] I'm going to speak back on the master plan real quick.

[2:45:00] Some people ask me why I'm so angry. Some people say I'm evil. Whatever, whatever you want to call, I have a thing. I think when a woman speaks on my mind and said what she means, he looked angry. She, I'm not angry. I'm not mean. I gave you the shirt on my back. I'm just no joke. I just don't play. Especially when he comes to my residence in the city of Punna, for the ones that really know me out there. I mean what I say when I come here. I don't come for anything. I don't need anything. But I want our city to flourish. I'd be all around every day, every city, until I get to see

[2:45:29] and I like God, we can do better.

[2:45:34] My kids will not move back here.

[2:45:36] They said they will not move here.

[2:45:38] It's not the here for them.

[2:45:39] I know people in the potters don't updite.

[2:45:42] Calling me.

[2:45:42] Don't have nowhere to sleep at night.

[2:45:45] But we sit down here and we have to be careful.

[2:45:47] Even myself, because God is good,

[2:45:50] because we just won't step away from where they are.

[2:45:54] So be careful how you treat people.

[2:45:56] And I say I have to say this.

[2:45:57] The master plan, I'll think about some people say,

[2:46:00] well, do it away sometime while you're angry,

[2:46:02] because this body has never included us.

[2:46:05] This has been the first council ever in the 10th,

[2:46:08] this is the 10th out of nine councils.

[2:46:11] And I think I've been to the six of them,

[2:46:14] that they didn't include the people.

[2:46:17] You got to include us.

[2:46:20] Anybody that knew me in New England in my district,

[2:46:22] I walked my district almost every other day.

[2:46:27] I didn't just set that.

[2:46:29] I went out in the street and see what they need.

[2:46:31] If you go out there, you're not even passed for what they see out here.

[2:46:37] And I just have to say the master plan.

[2:46:39] I don't remember, and this week, we got this, this thing, it's a planet that everybody knows

[2:46:44] it.

[2:46:44] That you're not in the click that you don't be in it.

[2:46:48] You ain't going to go get elected to nothing.

[2:46:49] You don't get only any boards.

[2:46:51] I've went out and have some people run for office because I didn't want a run.

[2:46:54] I started to not did, because I'm trying to get new people in here to come into the city.

[2:46:59] Not just African-American, but Chinese anybody.

[2:47:03] I don't remember that.

[2:47:04] The master plan is goes to the master plan.

[2:47:07] I don't remember seeing any of the nobody of that in the decision of that master plan.

[2:47:12] It's behind closed door stuff that I see.

[2:47:15] And this is what word me about the master plan.

[2:47:17] Am I in the plan?

[2:47:19] That's a panic resident.

[2:47:21] Am I in the plan?

[2:47:22] The homes you're going to be going to be affordable for somebody else.

[2:47:26] I'm making affordable my kids making affordable and they come here.

[2:47:29] The part was caused too much.

[2:47:31] All we in the plants is girls in the plants.

[2:47:34] What is the plan for? Why do the Americans keep fighting girls about this money for 45 days?

[2:47:41] For long and for another 45 days. You've got to ask yourself,

[2:47:44] is it maybe because they look for girls money,

[2:47:46] but we've got so much money?

[2:47:48] I'll die before you get it, the retirees aren't that in money, they deserve that in money.

[2:47:56] And they're dying every day, and you keep prolonging, prolonging, prolonging.

[2:48:03] My time is up.

[2:48:04] Thank you, Ms. Miller.

[2:48:11] President McGin asked him to include a gender address.

[2:48:13] Thank you, sir.

[2:48:14] We're at number six on the agenda.

[2:48:15] It's a second reading for an ordinance rezoning amendment.

[2:48:20] Is there a motion for adoption of an ordinance to amend?

[2:48:27] It's been moved by Councilwoman Jones, seconded by Councilwoman James.

[2:48:31] It's adoption of an ordinance to amend appendix B of the Municipal Code, Mending Article

[2:48:35] 2, Section 2.103 zoning map to change the zoning classifications for one specific

[2:48:41] parcel in the north side of East Columbia Avenue.

[2:48:44] This is between Baldwin Avenue and Price, and it is subject to the agreed upon conditions.

[2:48:50] This amendment would conditionally resume the parcel that 43 East Columbia from R1 to M1.

[2:48:56] This was before us for a first reading.

[2:48:58] This is now the second reading.

[2:48:59] May I remind you of the four?

[2:49:01] Yeah, thank you.

[2:49:02] I know we talked about this at the last council meeting, so I don't want to belabor up

[2:49:06] but this involves a parcel at 43 East Columbia.

[2:49:11] It is a former school that has since been demolished and the rezoning request is made

[2:49:19] by a developer who wants to develop a business at this location.

[2:49:24] This is a conditional rezoning, and so there's a agenda item later on the agenda tonight's

[2:49:30] meeting, assuming that this passes to authorize the execution of a conditional rezoning

[2:49:36] agreement.

[2:49:37] And with that, I'll turn it over to our planning manager, Mark Andrew.

[2:49:40] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:49:40] Good evening.

[2:49:41] Good evening.

[2:49:41] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:49:43] Good evening, Council.

[2:49:44] I'm going to fly through the presentation.

[2:49:46] We did share this last week.

[2:49:48] This is a rezoning from R1 to M1, which is single family residential to light industrial, which is the M1 district.

[2:49:55] This is a 43 East Columbia, which is just east of Baldwin Road.

[2:50:00] The applicant is TD Group Holdings.

[2:50:02] And again, this is a zoning map amendment.

[2:50:04] This is the process that this application has filed.

[2:50:08] It did go before planning commission in November of 2024, but it was tabled.

[2:50:13] The applicant reconsidered conditions of approval, plan and commission make a recommendation

[2:50:19] on December 4th.

[2:50:21] The applicant has made some further conditions of approval and that's the time it's taken

[2:50:25] before it's getting this come to City Council in May of the share.

[2:50:28] So tonight is the second reading if City Council wants to, they can proceed with a decision

[2:50:33] on this rezoning application.

[2:50:36] This is the zoning map.

[2:50:38] I want to point out that on a long Baldwin Avenue, this is actually C1.

[2:50:43] The proposal here is for M1, which is a cognizant of the zoning it's over here.

[2:50:50] There are single-family residential homes to the north, there are single-family residential

[2:50:54] homes to the south and Columbia.

[2:50:56] So it is this kind of an in-between area between commercial along Baldwin, a little bit

[2:51:04] more intense uses on Columbia, but it is adjacent to residential in these areas.

[2:51:09] This is an aerial photo from the county from 2023, just showing the former Owen School right

[2:51:15] before it was demolished, so you can see it was again a blighted, dilapidated property,

[2:51:21] it was in need of a refresh.

[2:51:23] These photos were taken late last year, just showing the site as it was.

[2:51:29] Now as we mentioned last week, the applicant did the demolition and then started using the

[2:51:34] putting gravel down, putting some of storage on here without getting any zoning approvals that

[2:51:40] is needed to proceed. The previous conditional rezoning for 2018 did expire and they are

[2:51:46] coming back right now to get a conditional rezoning to allow this to happen. If this is approved,

[2:51:52] they can proceed forward to planning commission in a site plan. If this is not approved,

[2:51:56] they would have to restore the site and grass and seed the property to a natural condition

[2:52:02] and this would not be allowed to remain.

[2:52:06] This is, again, another picture of the site from October

[2:52:09] just showing what it looks like with some of the spoils

[2:52:12] there.

[2:52:15] The 2014 Master Plan shows this area's entrepreneurial

[2:52:18] residential commercial in green, which

[2:52:20] allows a lot of different types of uses, but it's not solely

[2:52:24] residential as it is owned.

[2:52:27] The 2025 Master Plan shows this as corridor commercial,

[2:52:30] which is not industrial,

[2:52:31] but does allow for some intense uses.

[2:52:36] We talked about the initial rezoning.

[2:52:37] We talked about the Owen School.

[2:52:42] And if the rezoning were to be approved,

[2:52:44] buffering is required as the parcel

[2:52:45] about its residential to the North and South,

[2:52:48] the applicant has supplied conditions,

[2:52:49] which I'll discuss in a minute.

[2:52:53] So these were the original conditions

[2:52:54] that went to Planning Commission.

[2:52:56] It had to do with five landscape enhancements,

[2:52:59] hours of operation,

[2:53:00] and just a handful of use exclusions.

[2:53:03] I don't want to focus on this page,

[2:53:04] but this is what Plain and Commission reviewed in December.

[2:53:07] They actually recommended denial of the case.

[2:53:10] I believe it was one to five, one in support, five against.

[2:53:15] So the applicant came back with these updated conditions.

[2:53:20] Number one, in the large green space buffer band comprised

[2:53:23] of 20 feet wide and three foot high,

[2:53:25] along the full perimeter of the property,

[2:53:27] including Ann Arbor and East Columbia, which would be adjacent to the residential.

[2:53:33] The Burm would have landscaping of three to four high-seater foot trees to ensure there's

[2:53:38] no reduction in sight lines from residential vantage points.

[2:53:41] The Seater trees are planted on six foot centers across the residential lots of homes.

[2:53:47] A continuous eight foot high fence would be installed along the full perimeter of sight.

[2:53:51] In four public bench rest areas and hard-scaping should also be provided with at least two

[2:53:56] areas along residential streets.

[2:53:59] The operating hours are the same, but the applicant did include that there will be a retail

[2:54:04] component to the site that may be open to the public during operating hours.

[2:54:09] They do not intend to have signage, and this is not necessarily a full retail like you

[2:54:14] would see from a nursery, but they could have individual clients come in and order some

[2:54:19] supplies or order services for that.

[2:54:23] The other property restrictions is they did add a lot more here.

[2:54:29] So this is more than handful that would what would be prohibited on site.

[2:54:33] Not to be utilized for manufacturing fabrication or processing.

[2:54:36] I mean, I'll continue to help report that shall not be operated as a terminal for public

[2:54:41] transportation, shall not be utilized as a recycling center, no toxic or hazardous material

[2:54:47] stored on the property or stored anywhere on the property.

[2:54:49] Any business on the property shall not be sexually oriented, any business located in the

[2:54:55] property shall not contain any marijuana-based land uses, and there shall be no direct

[2:55:00] access to the site to East Ann Arbor Avenue, only from Columbia.

[2:55:06] So the applicant provided this rendering image, and this went to planning commission just

[2:55:12] showing the overall orientation of the site.

[2:55:15] So this is Columbia down here, this is the general parking area for employees and occasional

[2:55:21] visitors, but this gravel area can be used for their storage for vehicles for some of the

[2:55:27] materials that they have on site.

[2:55:29] This dome, as far as I know, is used for cleaning, necessarily, it's not necessarily a

[2:55:34] salt dome, but what can be used for some of their operations.

[2:55:38] And then they mentioned about that 20 foot buffer, that would be around here where there would

[2:55:43] be a three-foot burn and an eight-foot fence under the conditions that they proposed on all sides.

[2:55:49] Now this is another rendering that they provided prior to the first reading, just highlighting

[2:55:54] what this would look like.

[2:55:56] And as I mentioned in the last reading, it is, while it is a pretty picture, it doesn't show

[2:56:00] the effects necessarily of all the different piles and operations of what could be stored on

[2:56:06] site.

[2:56:07] So, and again, this is another aerial image provided by the applicant.

[2:56:10] I did not mention in tonight's presentation, but the intended, this is a rezoning which is

[2:56:15] permanent if the conditional rezoning actually takes effect in a stark construction, but

[2:56:20] the applicant is attending for bright fuel landscaping to have some additional operations that

[2:56:26] would be taking place on site. This is what's permitted in our one. I think there are very

[2:56:33] limited uses beyond single family homes that are allowed here. There are a few things a lot

[2:56:38] special exception, so it is very restrictive as to what R1 is. Now with M1, there are a lot

[2:56:45] of uses that are permitted by right and permitted by special exception. So even in 10 years from now,

[2:56:52] if bright view were to maybe do very well expand operations elsewhere, these uses could be permitted

[2:56:58] either by right or special exception. So I've really highlighted those are the ones that are not

[2:57:03] struck out, the ones that are struck out are were essentially part of the conditional rezoning

[2:57:10] that they could not be one of those items.

[2:57:15] So there are ten standards of approval with any rezoning.

[2:57:18] I'd be happy to go through these.

[2:57:19] There's a detail in the staff report.

[2:57:23] But one of the current designation or single family home by right, you could subdivide this

[2:57:31] then, you could build single family homes.

[2:57:32] There really isn't much more that you could do from there.

[2:57:36] The city recognizes as we're going through the master plan process that a commercial use is

[2:57:40] a viable use here.

[2:57:42] But in our staff's analysis to plan and commission, you know, in a industrial use next

[2:57:47] to a neighborhood could have negative impacts to the neighborhood and that was something

[2:57:51] that we had shared through this.

[2:57:53] East Columbia is a major commercial street that can accommodate commercial traffic and there

[2:57:59] There are not concerns about the impact of this rezoning for Columbia Avenue,

[2:58:06] but some of

[2:58:07] the M1 district industrial scale automobiles services, many warehouse, freight terminals,

[2:58:11] non-toxic storage by right, adjacent to this residential community, is something to consider

[2:58:16] with this rezoning.

[2:58:20] And it would not, as one of the standards, it would not be appropriate to amend the list

[2:58:24] of permitted or special land uses to allow for this use in an R1 district zoning.

[2:58:28] So, Planning Commission's recommendation was denial, five to one, just based on the four

[2:58:34] standards CD, H and J that are listed up there of compliance.

[2:58:39] So, the applicant's representative is here again tonight if you have any questions and thank you for your presentation.

[2:58:44] Thank you.

[2:58:47] Mayor, you want to expand on the Planning Management's presentation?

[2:58:49] Well, your microphone?

[2:58:53] I've got a question for the applicant if I could.

[2:58:58] But let them make their case and then you could have the first question.

[2:59:02] Yeah, no, that sounds great.

[2:59:03] But I do have another question for the planning manager, though.

[2:59:05] So I can wait on that, or I can ask it now, whatever you prefer.

[2:59:08] So now since he's already walked up, we'll wait on that.

[2:59:11] I can do however you want, though.

[2:59:13] How are you?

[2:59:13] Good evening, Christian Ozer.

[2:59:15] On behalf of the applicant, TDE group polling.

[2:59:18] LLC, we were here a couple weeks ago.

[2:59:20] And we presented our position in our proposal to city council.

[2:59:25] It was approved 70 for the first reading.

[2:59:27] So obviously we're here for the second reading and we would hope that the vote would be consistent with the first time we were here as the city planner had mentioned the idea is is this is currently a it's the former Owen school and it was demolished and right now it is adjacent to property that is utilized by my client for storage for trucks for their landscaping business and is the applicant had said last time we need to space for storage.

[2:59:57] Our businesses expanded to the extent that we...

[3:00:00] We've kind of outgrown our space and what we want to do is move over and enhance and improve the area that is currently vacant right now.

[3:00:08] As those renderings demonstrated, the idea is to create a buffer from the public view in order to store materials, not so much materials, but more of the equipment in the off season.

[3:00:21] The season starts November 15th and goes through April 15th.

[3:00:25] During that time, that site is primarily going to be empty, because all the trucks, all

[3:00:29] the equipment is stored at the sites where the work is being done.

[3:00:34] In the summer, it comes back where we service them, we clean them, we get them ready for

[3:00:38] the aus or during the aus season, we get them ready, and then they go back out to November

[3:00:41] 15th.

[3:00:43] We have proposed what I believe are to be very reasonable, self-imposed restrictions.

[3:00:49] I was articulated up on that board, but more importantly, and I think this is, you know, as I was sitting here and listening to some of the public comment,

[3:00:57] this takes into consideration what the residents were hoping for.

[3:01:02] And we went around door to door, and I supplied the names and addresses of all the residents who live on those adjacent streets in support of this project.

[3:01:11] And I believe, and we believe that what is proposed takes into consideration what those local

[3:01:18] residents want.

[3:01:19] And they want that area improve, they want that area to be cleaned up, and they want

[3:01:22] that area to be utilized for a purpose different than what it is now.

[3:01:27] And we are proposing to do just that, and that is to spend a considerable amount of money enhancing

[3:01:32] improving and cleaning up that area in order to have our client utilize that space for

[3:01:37] his expanded business.

[3:01:39] I am happy to answer any questions that you may have.

[3:01:43] I know Mr. Mayor, you had a question for me.

[3:01:45] But again, I would just re-articulate and restate those issues that I did

[3:01:49] at the prior meeting, where this was presented for the first reading.

[3:01:53] Thank you. Mayor Graham, would you have the floor?

[3:01:57] Yeah, thank you. I'm wondering about the domed structure

[3:02:02] and what it will be used for, so that's one question.

[3:02:05] And then the other question is, the equipment will be stored there outside.

[3:02:10] It sounds like in the primarily in the gravel parking lot, but if you could help us understand

[3:02:18] the type of equipment that we're talking about and the number of pieces of equipment.

[3:02:23] Certainly, let me try to answer those questions in the order that they were presented.

[3:02:26] Okay, as it pertains to that structure with the dome, that would be primarily used for coverage

[3:02:31] if they were to wash the cars, if washed the trucks or service the equipment, just to provide

[3:02:37] some cover for it.

[3:02:38] It's not going to be used for salt storage.

[3:02:40] It's not a salt dome or anything like that.

[3:02:42] There's no materials.

[3:02:43] It's just an area for workers to work on trucks or to work on equipment and to provide them

[3:02:49] some shade from the elements.

[3:02:51] That would be it.

[3:02:51] It's just open-ended on both sides and it would be a dry-through.

[3:02:55] That's all.

[3:02:56] I don't anticipate and I have no reason to believe mayor that that's going to be used for

[3:03:01] something other than what I had just said.

[3:03:03] I don't think it's going to be stored, no storage of salt or other materials.

[3:03:08] With respect to the type of equipment that would be stored on that site, it would be consistent

[3:03:13] for what would normally be used in grounds keeping and road maintenance activities.

[3:03:19] So the trucks, for instance, the trucks that the city of Pontiac utilizes to clear

[3:03:23] snow, it would be those same exact trucks.

[3:03:27] It would be maybe a skin steer, like a smaller piece of equipment that is used in a tight space on a lot to move snow, something like that.

[3:03:37] I don't anticipate there being an or an amount of quote materials.

[3:03:42] Like, I don't see, there's not going to be brick pavers. There's not going to be piles and piles and piles of mulch.

[3:03:47] It's going to be very limited and again. The idea is that we grew out of space at the adjacent property, so we have to move it over.

[3:03:55] And I know Councilperson Parker had talked about the height over, you know, making sure that whatever was stored in there

[3:04:02] didn't exceed the height elevation of the berm plus the fence, which I believe was a three foot berm, eight foot fence,

[3:04:10] and we got 11 feet there. And the client had represented at the last meeting that they would endeavor very hard to make certain that whatever was in there

[3:04:19] was it necessarily going to be 20 feet high?

[3:04:22] So it would be an obstruction or an isor

[3:04:25] or not aesthetically pleasing.

[3:04:27] And Mr. Mayor, I don't know if that fully answered

[3:04:28] your question but I'm happy to expand.

[3:04:32] All right, Mayor Graham, we had a question for Mandry Andrew.

[3:04:35] Yeah, thank you.

[3:04:40] I'm wondering what your recommendation is.

[3:04:43] I know you made a recommendation to the Planning Commission,

[3:04:47] Planning Commission recommended denial.

[3:04:49] the applicant, I believe has offered some additional conditions since then, quite of all of

[3:04:57] that, what is your recommendation in why?

[3:05:01] Really, I would still say that if you look at the standards of approval for rezoning that

[3:05:06] are in the staff reported in Council's packet, really it's not marginally changed with

[3:05:12] these added conditions.

[3:05:14] And part of it is the adjacency to residential neighborhoods while there may be some

[3:05:18] support for it. I have witnessed a lot of complaints in my past job from landscape companies

[3:05:24] that are doing things at various times in creating pollution and that's sort of thing.

[3:05:30] And this is an industrial use. If it was in another location that was not adjacent to residential,

[3:05:37] staff may have a different recommendation, but for this specific parcel, we did, you know,

[3:05:42] our recommendation to staff, you know, to, I'm sorry to plan a commission really remains the same as

[3:05:48] recommendation of denial just because of the impact of the neighborhoods.

[3:05:52] We need to get into deliberation from council members, councilman James.

[3:05:56] This is your district.

[3:05:57] Want to give you the floor first?

[3:05:59] Yes.

[3:06:01] With all due respect to planning.

[3:06:05] On elementary school closed in 2009.

[3:06:10] And since that time, this community, this residential community,

[3:06:14] has had to deal with the blight of a close school in their neighborhood that nobody wanted.

[3:06:22] Nobody would do anything about dumping going on, everything going on.

[3:06:26] The community has dealt with the negative impact of an abandoned school since 2009.

[3:06:35] And now I think the community wants to see the negative impact to me and to the community

[3:06:42] is the current condition.

[3:06:46] What we want to see is something done with that property

[3:06:49] that adds to the, you know, adds to the community

[3:06:56] and not take away the current condition takes away.

[3:07:00] And I think this plan has the potential for adding to the community

[3:07:04] so I think the negative impact that you're seeing

[3:07:09] As having a commercial activity there, I think the negative impact of the current condition

[3:07:16] outweighs that, I think that because this is a conditional rezoning that there is protection

[3:07:24] there, there's really no real liability to the city and to the community.

[3:07:30] And so I really strongly feel that we need to approve this, because I think it's an

[3:07:35] the best interest of that community, they are tired of that, of that lot, they are tired

[3:07:43] of all of all of the negative things that have been going on there.

[3:07:47] They would like to see something very positive done with that property and this proposal

[3:07:54] is able to fulfill that need.

[3:07:59] Thank you.

[3:08:01] Yeah, so President Guinness actually the question that I was on the planning was the question that the mayor actually acts as well.

[3:08:12] But I do want to

[3:08:14] Exxonion about code enforcement and I don't see code enforcement here because some of the major complaints concern is property was actually about the owner that owns it right now for not mistaken.

[3:08:25] Some of the complaints are from the owner.

[3:08:28] Yeah, so I'm going to complain sort of property of, I guess, decide itself, we're against

[3:08:36] the current owner, if I'm mistaken, because I know that I've reported this over the

[3:08:41] over the years that I've been on council. So I'm just wondering,

[3:08:46] for me, I'm kind of torn.

[3:08:48] I hear councilwoman's James plea, but I'm also concerned what last game of minutes been

[3:08:55] in the middle of the neighborhood and also my district has plenty of school builders and I actually

[3:09:02] have to fight with that same issue when it comes to the determined and what do we do with

[3:09:08] these abandoned schools in our neighborhoods. So I'm very torn and I'm gonna sit back. You can't

[3:09:16] speak sir but I would say that you mentioned doing your statement that we agreed 70 for approval

[3:09:23] But we only approve the first reading.

[3:09:25] So I just want to make sure that we clarify that.

[3:09:28] Thank you.

[3:09:31] Further discussion from council members?

[3:09:34] Councilwoman Jones, followed by council.

[3:09:39] This is more of a statement than anything.

[3:09:42] Just looking at the diagram and zoning surrounding zoning areas.

[3:09:47] I just, and I hear councilwoman James is pleased because, you know, this is close to,

[3:09:52] or in her district and, you know, I'm sure she freaks this area more than I do.

[3:09:58] I would still rather see housing in that residential area right smack dab in the middle of a residential community.

[3:10:10] And I worry about, you know, in the long run, the pollution, noise complaints, or disturbances, you know, things that

[3:10:19] The app of our levers operating there may not intend to disrupt the community with, but it would go along with the job that they would be doing under the zoning of M1.

[3:10:29] So that concerns me that close proximity to the residential area, barrier or no barrier.

[3:10:37] That's all I wanted to say about this.

[3:10:41] Do you have any questions?

[3:10:42] Just a question of Mark Rofest.

[3:10:48] So, the owner of this, the probably that we're discussing is also the owner of the property that is just across not Columbia, but the other street.

[3:10:58] To the east.

[3:10:59] And there is where I bring that up.

[3:11:01] And this is a statement, but a reminding of council that not that long ago, there was a different thing I was before.

[3:11:09] were a lot of residents came out, which is specifically from the houses surrounding this property

[3:11:17] owner, not the one that we're talking about, but the one that they currently own, and they came

[3:11:21] to us complaining about dust leaving the property going on to their homes. And so I do want to

[3:11:31] remind council of that commentary from the nearby community as of ways to this property owner.

[3:11:39] That's incorrect, isn't it?

[3:11:41] That was Danny's transpose.

[3:11:43] That was on Columbia, but that was not that parcel.

[3:11:46] Okay, thank you.

[3:11:47] That was, that was asking for clarity.

[3:11:50] That's crushing.

[3:11:52] So, thank you for that.

[3:11:54] And so, I rotate that back to that.

[3:11:56] I appreciate Council for clarifying that for me.

[3:12:00] Intermediator, can you pull up the aerial that shows the other parcels surrounding on Columbia?

[3:12:04] So, just to clarify that point, so the parcel immediately to the east, closer to the train tracks,

[3:12:15] is owned currently by the same owner used for bright view landscaping.

[3:12:20] So, you can see on the aerial to the east there, separated by that residential side street.

[3:12:27] That's their existing parcel, so that would be bright view landscaping,

[3:12:32] utilizing that there. That is what they hope to continue and carry on for the parcel that

[3:12:39] is in question now. So, the same ownership. What you're referencing is on a different

[3:12:44] part of Columbia, not adjacent or near this site, and that is owned by some entity involved

[3:12:51] with Danny's transport. Across the railroad tracks, yes. So, can you go to the other slide that

[3:12:58] the zoning of the different parcels?

[3:13:01] I apologize.

[3:13:02] Some of the labels might be off.

[3:13:05] But I hope this helps.

[3:13:08] Do you mind if I just highlight?

[3:13:10] So these are actually, these are C1 right here, which is corridor commercial.

[3:13:15] These are not, and that's baldwood.

[3:13:16] This is baldwood, yes.

[3:13:18] And then on Columbia here, these properties are zone C3, which is corridor commercial.

[3:13:23] And then the proposal here would be M1, which is light manufacturing.

[3:13:27] So, when you look in this immediate area, there's not industrial zoning within this viewpoint.

[3:13:32] Now, as you go across the railroad tracks, that's where the industrial zoning starts on Columbia,

[3:13:37] but not in this immediate vicinity.

[3:13:39] Right.

[3:13:39] So, across the railroad tracks, there's vacant land, that's zoned in industrial at various degrees,

[3:13:46] and then we have General Motors properties, that's zoned in industrial of varying degrees.

[3:13:51] So, that's part of the reason why I think that this request is not unreasonable, is because

[3:13:57] of the Columbia court or the current composition.

[3:14:03] I think that the conditions offered provide a great deal of protection and buffer and will

[3:14:09] allow a lot more continuity of the Columbia court or then otherwise would exist.

[3:14:15] Because if we revert to no change, I think many of us can anticipate what will happen.

[3:14:21] It will be nothing. It will be vacant land, maybe for, maybe for a few years, maybe for a few decades, like we have in many other parts of our city.

[3:14:30] So it's obviously a corridor.

[3:14:32] The question is, is the use to intense?

[3:14:36] It's to me strikes it as a hybrid, or it's got, you know, commercial landscaping business hybrid that would not be unduly intense for the surrounding vicinity.

[3:14:51] And I am grateful that the residents, all of the residents who have weighed in, have been in support of it, no one unless there's somebody else.

[3:15:00] Members heard a contact that I haven't heard no one in public hearing at the planning commission,

[3:15:07] or at the resident surrounding, or we received literally a petition advocating for the enhancement

[3:15:14] for the development of that site. So that is definitely not worth it to me. And as you go, East

[3:15:20] on Columbia, it's very heavily industrial, very rough. I would like to see a lot more landscaped

[3:15:28] green maintains and that would be true for any of the parcels.

[3:15:34] Councilman James.

[3:15:35] And also, President, we're going to, I'm concerned that we don't want to lose any more

[3:15:43] ground in that particular neighborhood because the CBS, could you point to where the CBS

[3:15:50] that's on a long ball when has recently closed?

[3:15:54] It's right across the street from...

[3:15:56] You got the dollar store, dollar general, which is right in front of it, it's an older store, very poorly maintained, and now you have CVS that's closed.

[3:16:12] Isn't that CVS?

[3:16:14] Oh, it was right. Oh my gosh. Okay.

[3:16:16] that is now closed, so we really are concerned about that corridor, that corner, that we don't want to see any more deterioration there.

[3:16:27] So, again, I think that this is something that can work.

[3:16:33] The residents that I have talked to want to see something, they are tired of the present condition.

[3:16:41] And I can't, I can't make that point strong enough.

[3:16:45] They are tired of the present condition.

[3:16:50] Am I allowed to say anything further after you deliberately?

[3:16:52] The sure interest, yes.

[3:16:53] But next on the speaker, this is Consumant Parking.

[3:16:57] Thank you, President.

[3:16:58] Are you ready to start on this project, or can you do?

[3:17:00] Right away.

[3:17:02] If this gets approved, we're going to go to planning commission to start doing what we want

[3:17:07] to do.

[3:17:08] And there's no delay.

[3:17:09] In fact, I am under the gun to get this going because our current business

[3:17:14] Jason to that is running out of space.

[3:17:17] That's why I'm here.

[3:17:18] Does this project add any jobs to money?

[3:17:21] Absolutely.

[3:17:22] It does.

[3:17:22] Let me tell you why.

[3:17:23] I don't need to talk down.

[3:17:24] What I'm saying is when we first came to Pontiac, that was when the city was under the financial

[3:17:31] manager.

[3:17:32] And workers from the DPW department, we hired them to drive our trucks because our company

[3:17:39] did the snow removal for the City of Pontiac.

[3:17:42] So, absolutely, if someone has a skill, if someone wants to apply for a job, go there, fill out the application.

[3:17:51] I don't have decision making authority for hiring, but if someone wants a job, go there, fill out the application.

[3:17:57] So, you do have positions.

[3:17:59] I can't tell if this is open, but we will absolutely give everyone full consideration.

[3:18:05] And I want to make sure that's not part of the condition that I appreciate that.

[3:18:12] for their discussion, for their,

[3:18:17] yeah, and I want to just reiterate,

[3:18:22] and Councilperson James said it pretty clearly.

[3:18:25] Several years ago, there was an old abandoned school

[3:18:27] on that property.

[3:18:28] My client out of their own pockets spent hundreds of thousands

[3:18:31] of dollars in tear it down.

[3:18:33] We took down that vacant school,

[3:18:35] which was a new sense, which was a blank,

[3:18:37] which was frankly a danger.

[3:18:38] we took it down, that same client wants to spend tens of thousands of dollars to improve in

[3:18:46] area in the city, that the residents and Jason to our support of, it's going to clean up that

[3:18:53] area. And frankly, I'm a little bit troubled with the notion from the planning commission that

[3:18:58] it doesn't fit in Councilperson President McGinnis, I'll tell you why, and I agree with you,

[3:19:03] to the left of it is a dollar store, a family dollar, right next door to it is our business.

[3:19:09] Across from it is industrial. It fits. It fits. My client is not a residential developer.

[3:19:16] If this doesn't pass, he is not going to build houses there. That's just not what he does.

[3:19:22] So it is going to sit vacant. It's not going to be improved. So we have an option.

[3:19:26] Can we do something that makes sense from a practical and logistical perspective?

[3:19:31] or do we say no, and it just sits there and remains vacant for many, many years.

[3:19:37] I don't want to get personal, but I sit on the Plain of Commission and City Council

[3:19:40] in the City, I live in. And I'm faced with these decisions all the time, and at the end

[3:19:44] of the day, it's what does the resident want? What is in the best interest of the city and the

[3:19:50] residents? And for the life of me, I cannot imagine that the decision makers would say no to this.

[3:19:58] We're coming to you with a presentation to develop and improve a parcel of property that

[3:20:04] us otherwise underutilized, add our own expense, and that's what we want to do.

[3:20:10] I will answer any other questions that anyone has, including Mr. Mayor.

[3:20:15] And I want to highlight that from what I've gathered over the years, part of the reason

[3:20:20] why it's in a purgatory state is because there was the conditional rezoning, the property

[3:20:26] the owner thought they were still in the clear to keep going.

[3:20:30] So that in terms of the demolition of the school at their expense.

[3:20:34] And then they wanted to pursue redevelopment when the C said,

[3:20:36] no, there was a time expiration on that.

[3:20:39] You have to, you know, you have to come back.

[3:20:41] It's been a very, you know, circuitous winding path.

[3:20:45] And that's why we're here today because they need a new conditional rezoning.

[3:20:49] That conditional rezoning was granted in 2018.

[3:20:53] And then as they began the demolition,

[3:20:55] we know about the pandemic that doesn't excuse it is just the reality based on what has been

[3:21:01] shared over the years at the Planning Commission and now for the multiple readings that

[3:21:05] this has come to us.

[3:21:07] Further deliberation on the matter before us, I'd like to call for the vote.

[3:21:12] Well, you're the last one on the speaker says so if no one else is speaking, we can vote

[3:21:16] on the matter here and nothing further.

[3:21:19] We are at the adoption of an ordinance to amend, which would have provided a conditional

[3:21:25] rezoning.

[3:21:26] If work does not begin or satisfactorily reach the threshold within two years, it reverts

[3:21:31] back to its original current zoning, but this is the address of 43 East Columbia for

[3:21:38] this one specific parcel.

[3:21:40] Everyone clear on the matter before us?

[3:21:42] Hearing none, roll call, cork, door, and adoption of the zoning map amendment.

[3:21:49] McGinnis?

[3:21:50] Yes.

[3:21:51] Parker?

[3:21:53] Carrington?

[3:21:54] No.

[3:21:55] Goodman?

[3:21:57] No.

[3:22:00] James?

[3:22:01] Yes.

[3:22:02] Jones.

[3:22:06] Well, the residents approved it.

[3:22:08] Yes.

[3:22:10] 4a's.

[3:22:11] 2 nays.

[3:22:12] That motion, I believe, carries as any four or five.

[3:22:15] All right, so the majority resones it conditionally, but there is a time sunset on the matter.

[3:22:22] All right, we have concludes number six for at number seven on the agenda.

[3:22:26] This is similarly another rezoning request that's come to the city of Pontiac from the property owner.

[3:22:32] This is at 11 Mohawk Road, proposing it to go from R1 to R2.

[3:22:38] We give the floor to the mayor and staff.

[3:22:41] Thank you. This is another matter that we've discussed at the last city council meeting.

[3:22:47] This, too, is rezoning, a proposed rezoning from R1 to R2 in the Indian Village neighborhood,

[3:22:54] just off of the north side of Huron and with that, I'll turn it over to the planning manager.

[3:23:00] All right. Good evening again. So this is another zoning map amendment second reading.

[3:23:04] Tonight's request is from R1 to R2, so it's from one family to allow for a duplex,

[3:23:10] which is R2.

[3:23:12] It's 11 Mohawk, which is just north of West, you're on.

[3:23:16] This is a little farther west of the former Webster School.

[3:23:20] It's a zoning map amendment.

[3:23:21] The applicant is AMG Visionaries holding LLC.

[3:23:25] Tonight is, again, the second reading.

[3:23:27] This went to a public hearing in April at Planet Commission.

[3:23:29] So, this is the location of, and I want to point out, it is the, essentially the first, what

[3:23:38] is currently zone single family home as you get into Mohawk.

[3:23:41] Now, the properties of the front-along west here on are zoned R2, which allow for due

[3:23:47] plexus.

[3:23:48] But, you know, it, and additionally across the street, it's zoned R1, but there is a,

[3:23:52] what I would consider potentially a grandfathered due plexus across the street as well.

[3:23:56] So this is an area that has a lot of dueplexes

[3:23:59] that it's like the character of the area.

[3:24:01] It's not like it's in the middle of the neighborhood

[3:24:03] and they're requesting a rezoning.

[3:24:07] This highlights the property itself and looks at the parcels.

[3:24:12] So I, one of the things is there is a driveway here.

[3:24:17] There's an opportunity for parking

[3:24:18] on the south side of the property as well.

[3:24:20] And then there are two parking spaces in the back.

[3:24:23] I did want to point out that these are owned by other owners,

[3:24:25] and this is not part of the property itself,

[3:24:27] but this area does act as an alleyway

[3:24:29] to get to some of the adjacent properties right here.

[3:24:33] This is the building of picture taken from January.

[3:24:40] So this is a traditional neighborhood residential district

[3:24:43] in the master plan.

[3:24:45] I wanna point out both in the 2014-2025.

[3:24:48] It really, the difference between R1 and R2

[3:24:50] is not really reflected in the city's land use,

[3:24:53] future land use map.

[3:24:54] So it's really a difficult barometer that's really not anything to use because it's essentially

[3:25:02] allows for both uses.

[3:25:04] The structure was constructed in 1930, now and just to reiterate, the property was listed

[3:25:10] in the duplex in old city records, but sometime before 2017 was converted to a single family.

[3:25:18] At that time, any grandfathering legal not conformities went away.

[3:25:22] And so the purchase, the, at the time of the purchase, the property was utilized as a duplex structure prior to that.

[3:25:33] There are duplex structures in the neighborhood as I'm going to mentioned.

[3:25:38] And I've already talked about the surrounding areas being zoned R1, R2, excuse me,

[3:25:44] and there are other properties in the neighborhood zones C1 and R3.

[3:25:48] The applicant has not provided any conditions, so this is a straight up, a regular rezoning.

[3:25:54] And the only real difference is, as you look at what's permitted by right and what's permitted by special exception,

[3:26:00] is really that there's a few additional things that are permitted by right.

[3:26:05] That would be the two-family dwelling unit.

[3:26:07] There are a few additional things that are allowed a special exception, but in large,

[3:26:11] they're rather similar for what's permitted.

[3:26:13] it.

[3:26:15] And I think we've gone through that. I just wanted to highlight the existing structures

[3:26:23] in the neighborhoods that are zoned R1, but are listed as dueplexes. They're going through

[3:26:28] the rental program through the city. So those are listed by the blue stars there. There

[3:26:33] are seven or ten standards of approval for rezoning.

[3:26:39] In general, this staff found that

[3:26:42] in general, this met the standards of approval for rezoning, especially because of the surrounding

[3:26:48] neighborhoods. And the fact that this house is a certain size, the you're not going to notice

[3:26:54] a difference. There's no construction being planned. I know one of the questions from Mr. McGinnis

[3:27:00] from the last meeting was how big is the parcel? And, you know, at the current with, there's not

[3:27:07] an ability to add on to this building any further. You know, there's currently enough roadway,

[3:27:12] There's enough that meets the setbacks that there really is not an opportunity to construct this beyond what renovations take place inside the house.

[3:27:21] So, you know, if you notice the width of this at Mohawk is 38 feet. So this is actually legal not conforming for this neighborhood.

[3:27:30] Now the rear is for the other properties a little wider just because Mohawk is on an arc there.

[3:27:35] But they would not this building is really restricted and could not be utilized, you know, build upon any further than what the current environment exists.

[3:27:49] Mohawk is designated as a residential street while suited to accommodate residential type traffic.

[3:27:55] With a duplex, you were required two spaces per unit.

[3:27:58] So they have the ability to park four spaces on the site, which most days there may not be parking along Mohawk.

[3:28:05] So the hope is that under reasonable, you know,

[3:28:08] at most times this should not impact any street parking

[3:28:12] or a long net, a long net road.

[3:28:17] The applicant's really the one that is request

[3:28:19] to the parcel will be resound.

[3:28:22] The request seems reasonable and will not be disruptive

[3:28:24] to adjacent properties since this property

[3:28:26] has been used as a dueplex type structure in the past,

[3:28:30] and currently resides as a single family home.

[3:28:34] The city is staff is not really doing an assessment of if there are a renter and owner.

[3:28:40] We see those as being the same type of use and same type of impact.

[3:28:45] So Plenty Commission made a recommendation of 4-1 to reason the parcel without any conditions.

[3:28:51] So that is my staff report and the applicant's representative is here again tonight.

[3:28:55] Thank you.

[3:28:56] Thank you.

[3:28:57] the applicant and they're represented, going to further elaborate on your proposal and request

[3:29:03] to the city of Pania.

[3:29:09] Good evening.

[3:29:10] I am Fram Bond at and I am the property manager of this location and what we are requesting

[3:29:16] is just to move another family in to the city of Pania where the kids will go to school.

[3:29:24] They will do their shopping and utilize the neighborhood and the city and spend their

[3:29:30] here. As of right now we do have one family in there and the lower unit. It is a

[3:29:39] section eight and that's what we are also looking to do is to bring another

[3:29:45] family in a probably section eight to utilize that other unit.

[3:29:57] We're just asking for

[3:29:58] your guys as approval so we can move forward.

[3:30:00] Thank you very much. My question, Manager Yandrick. Part of what I was getting to you spoke to, it was, I want to know, what is the city of Rekwire in terms of space. You've spoken previously at the Planning Commission that there's adequate pad, concrete pad, or parking, be it asphalt, or whatever the surface is, there's adequate parking to allow for multiple vehicles on the parcel itself.

[3:30:25] So, there's no concerns from staff on that regard.

[3:30:28] I'm trying to understand, we understand over the decades.

[3:30:31] It's been a duplex, not a duplex.

[3:30:33] You know, it's evolved.

[3:30:35] But based on what, 2025, Pontiac requirements are,

[3:30:40] is there even sufficient square footage in the structure

[3:30:44] to provide for whatever is required for, you know,

[3:30:49] there to be two separate units?

[3:30:51] Do you know that, if I can ask the Opposition real quickly,

[3:30:53] Do you know the square footage of the upstairs and downstairs?

[3:30:57] The downstairs is a three bedroom, one bath, and it's probably about 900 square feet.

[3:31:04] Where the minimum requirement is 600 square feet.

[3:31:08] Okay, so.

[3:31:08] The upstairs is the same.

[3:31:11] So based on the house's construction, there's a similar floor plan or layout for both floors.

[3:31:18] Could do you get the sense from the property that that is the deal that there was a unit main level and then a unit

[3:31:24] Second story based on the configuration of the home and the bathrooms and all that jazz

[3:31:31] All right, so that was my main question like I don't want to us to even waste that time if it if the structure as it stands now

[3:31:38] Wouldn't even support what the city requires for two units?

[3:31:42] That was the nature of my question.

[3:31:45] So you're saying the thought size, the property size,

[3:31:49] the number of vehicles that can comfortably be parked there.

[3:31:53] The one thing to disclose is that this is an existing building.

[3:31:58] So to ask for a rezoning is within the applicant's request.

[3:32:01] Now if there wasn't a building here,

[3:32:03] you actually need 60 feet of width to be able to construct a building.

[3:32:09] Now, if that makes sense, so if there was no building there,

[3:32:13] this would not be wide enough, but with the current building size

[3:32:18] and stuff like that, it does meet the other requirements.

[3:32:20] But to the south, there is R2.

[3:32:22] So let's say 50 or 60 years from now,

[3:32:26] you know, Colombia struck in their weren't structures there

[3:32:29] to rebuild something that was at least satisfying R2.

[3:32:33] There could be lot combinations or some sort of scenario there.

[3:32:37] All right. What is the zoning for the former church that's adjacent to the parcel, but to the south and the west on here on?

[3:32:48] It's a beautiful church. I'm sad that it's been vacant for a minute.

[3:32:52] I'm just trying to understand the zoning there.

[3:32:55] Is it on this map? Is it right here?

[3:32:58] It's the big.

[3:33:00] That is also zoned R2.

[3:33:02] Okay, so it's existing R2.

[3:33:03] Yeah, it's correct.

[3:33:05] So there's R2 and then it kind of goes up in density to R3, is it?

[3:33:10] No.

[3:33:11] So corridor commercial as you go along here on.

[3:33:13] I don't mean that.

[3:33:13] I mean along here on.

[3:33:15] It goes over to C1 as you see one.

[3:33:20] And then there's also a mix of other residential uses as you go west of the west of this aerial photo.

[3:33:25] Okay.

[3:33:25] Thank you.

[3:33:26] Other questioner debate?

[3:33:28] Complement Jones.

[3:33:33] I guess I'll start with my feedback and then I'll follow up with my questions.

[3:33:36] And I personally just don't think that this idea is in keeping with the neighborhood, as

[3:33:42] I'm also shared with my residents in Indian Village.

[3:33:48] Primarily because it's a primary, you know, R1 community for duplexes in the subdivision

[3:33:55] does not scream, fitting, you know, to me to reason this as a duplex.

[3:34:02] But also, in the draft master plan, approximately on page 108, Indian Village is distinctly mentioned as a potential emerging historic district, which, to me, means that extra consideration on the character of the neighborhood and all of its characteristics need to be preserved and, you know, should be upheld, especially, you know, when merging off to potentially city recognized historic district or, what is it national, is the other option?

[3:34:32] So, those are my concerns there, but I am wondering, does this, I know you'd like for

[3:34:37] it to be two units, but does the building have two kitchens upstairs and down?

[3:34:44] Okay, and total, one bathroom upstairs, one bathroom downstairs?

[3:34:48] Interesting.

[3:34:49] And if you don't mind me, just a point of information.

[3:34:52] I mentioned it first reading.

[3:34:54] This previously was a duplex up until around 2017 or sometime before then.

[3:34:58] at 2017, it was listed as a single family, and then in 2023, Jack McIntyre in his codenforced

[3:35:04] manager role happened to be driving by in witness and started ticketing the old owner,

[3:35:10] not this owner before it was sold.

[3:35:12] And so we don't know if that was the renovations that kitchen, maybe it was removed, we don't

[3:35:18] know what happened to that interim time.

[3:35:20] Look at that.

[3:35:21] Can I ask if I'll up to energy and Rick?

[3:35:22] So maybe you can clarify for me, does a result?

[3:35:26] I know that it does not have any bearing on a city recognized historic district, but as a

[3:35:30] rezoning of this property, if Indian village were to emerge as a historic district,

[3:35:37] would that rezoning compromise potential international recognition of the subdivision as

[3:35:45] historic?

[3:35:46] That's a great question.

[3:35:47] So, one of the key things here about the historic district has to do with the physical

[3:35:51] elements and the history that lays here.

[3:35:53] converting in a lot of times historical communities don't look at the inside of buildings.

[3:36:00] Now, again, don't get me wrong. There are certain historical buildings that the inside

[3:36:05] of the building is what's historic, but generally when we're looking at historic districts

[3:36:08] in the city of Pontiac, we're looking at the outside features. And so I think there would be a

[3:36:13] little bit more concern if there was a proposal with this application to do a massive renovation

[3:36:18] or, you know, to affect the elements of the facade of the building, the outside of the building,

[3:36:25] but that is now what is being proposed here. Other than they may potentially need an outside

[3:36:29] door when it goes to the building, per my process, but it really should not compromise that

[3:36:35] history. Right, if it were to happen. Okay, so no additional construction is anticipated for this

[3:36:41] if it were to pass, okay.

[3:36:43] Thank you.

[3:36:45] For the discussion?

[3:36:48] So, thank you, Councilman Jones,

[3:36:50] and I know you've been in touch with a number of residents.

[3:36:52] She's flagging in the master plan that is soon to be updated

[3:36:56] and enacted, is that the long term vision

[3:36:59] that there would be this historic,

[3:37:01] it's historic with a lower case age.

[3:37:04] The vision is establishing it as an additional,

[3:37:07] perhaps the six or one of the next newly designated historic districts that would have

[3:37:13] additional thresholds to meet to kind of keep the integrity and character of the

[3:37:18] neighborhood intact. Is that something that the administration is looking to initiate

[3:37:23] in the near future or is that more of a long term?

[3:37:26] That is not a short term, but if I remember correctly, I believe it's a medium-term goal. And part of

[3:37:30] that is of doing an evaluation. And that is the city council working with administration, working

[3:37:35] with the community of that neighborhood to see if that's something that would like to proceed.

[3:37:41] And that is a whole process to determine whether something becomes a historic district.

[3:37:46] And so that is a medium-term goal within the master plan to evaluate and then if recommended

[3:37:54] then proceed forward with the plan.

[3:37:56] It's your professional assessment that a change of R1, whether it's R1 or R2 does not

[3:38:02] hinder his historic district consideration.

[3:38:07] For the discussion on the motion before us,

[3:38:10] the request is whether to have this highlighted green

[3:38:12] parcel currently R1.

[3:38:15] I mean, not always been R1, but it's currently R1.

[3:38:18] And whether it's approved by us as the people of Pontiac

[3:38:23] to allow to be R2, any final question or clarification.

[3:38:28] All right.

[3:38:29] Hearing none, adaptive and north-east.

[3:38:31] We never had a move.

[3:38:32] Oh, Lord.

[3:38:33] All right.

[3:38:34] Is there, oh, I thought there was a move in a second.

[3:38:39] OK.

[3:38:40] But so you don't show a record of a move in a second.

[3:38:42] No.

[3:38:42] All right.

[3:38:43] Who moves?

[3:38:44] Who seconds?

[3:38:46] Second.

[3:38:46] OK.

[3:38:47] It's been moved by Councilman Jones, second by Councilman Goodman.

[3:38:50] Now we can discuss it just getting to be happy.

[3:38:52] So here are no further discussion.

[3:38:55] Here are no further discussion.

[3:38:57] Clerk Doyle, we're about to vote on adoption of an ordinance to amend

[3:39:00] to the City of Pontiac Committee.

[3:39:02] Article 2, Section 2.103, Zoning Map,

[3:39:04] to change the Zoning Classifications for

[3:39:06] one specific parcel on the west side of

[3:39:07] Mohawk Road, between West Huron Street and

[3:39:09] North Genesea Avenue, this amendment to

[3:39:11] reason the parcel of the Levin Mohawk Road from

[3:39:13] R1 to R2.

[3:39:16] Clerk Doyle, roll call.

[3:39:18] Harker?

[3:39:18] No.

[3:39:20] Carrying, saying?

[3:39:22] Good, man.

[3:39:23] Yes.

[3:39:25] James?

[3:39:26] Yes?

[3:39:28] Jones?

[3:39:31] Yes?

[3:39:33] Yes.

[3:39:33] Three, yes.

[3:39:34] Three, yes.

[3:39:35] Three, yes.

[3:39:35] All right.

[3:39:36] With that, the motion fails.

[3:39:38] A tie means no majority.

[3:39:40] So, the zoning remains the same at this juncture.

[3:39:47] Everyone clear on that?

[3:39:48] Now, we're at number 80 on the agenda.

[3:39:51] Adoption of an ordinance to amend the municipal code.

[3:39:54] It's updating codes by the state of Michigan and international code council.

[3:39:57] Council, ICC, with all amendments. Is there a motion to approve?

[3:40:02] I'm not sure.

[3:40:03] It's been moved by Councilman James, seconded by Councilman Goodman.

[3:40:07] This is to have the city's building codes be updated with what the state's got going,

[3:40:12] as with the fire code. Anything else clear?

[3:40:15] Well, just very quickly, and I know we talked about this last week,

[3:40:18] and Director Lockrink can get in all the details,

[3:40:21] but there have been times when the code adopted by the city has not been in sync with that

[3:40:27] adopted by the state, meaning that the city may use an older code or a newer code and by

[3:40:33] that, I mean, versions of the code, then the state.

[3:40:36] And we want to be in sync with the state, this language would say that whatever the current

[3:40:42] code in use and adopted by the state is, so shall it be in the city of Pontiac.

[3:40:47] And with that, I'll turn it over to Director Logrin.

[3:40:51] The mayor is absolutely correct in what he said.

[3:40:53] I'm here to just ask for your vote, so that we may do this maintenance adjustment to our municipal code.

[3:41:03] The state of Michigan adopted a new building code, which also includes the electrical code, the plumbing code and the mechanical code on April 9th of this year.

[3:41:14] So what we're doing is we are bringing our municipal ordinance in line with what the state has adopted and said that the state of Michigan municipality should you.

[3:41:24] In addition to what the mayor said, I will just add one note, and what we are doing is we are also allowing the automatic adoption of any changes, any amendments, if you will, to the municipal code, the Michigan building code, as approved by the state of Michigan.

[3:41:44] That way, we will always be in line with the state no matter what adjustments they make to the code.

[3:41:51] We will automatically follow nine and be reviewing for the highest review approvals that we can offer to our businesses coming in.

[3:42:02] Well, thank you for quickly bringing to us so swiftly after the state has made their changes.

[3:42:07] Any discussion on the motion before us?

[3:42:10] Are there other municipalities that do that same sort of automatic tie bar to the state?

[3:42:16] Absolutely.

[3:42:18] Thank you.

[3:42:20] Hearing no further discussion?

[3:42:22] This is again the second reading that's been before us previously two weeks ago.

[3:42:26] Hearing no further discussion, roll call, cork, doil, on adoption of that ordinance amendment.

[3:42:32] Carrington?

[3:42:34] Good, yes.

[3:42:35] James.

[3:42:36] Yes.

[3:42:36] Jones.

[3:42:37] Yes.

[3:42:38] Yes.

[3:42:40] Sixiers.

[3:42:41] No names.

[3:42:42] Motion carries the ordinances amended.

[3:42:44] Thank you.

[3:42:45] We're at number nine on the agenda.

[3:42:47] This is related to what we've previously adopted with number six.

[3:42:52] This authorizes and permits the city to proceed with the executing the agreement for those

[3:42:57] safeguards for the surrounding propioners on that 43s Columbia, so that way those

[3:43:03] can be codified.

[3:43:04] Is there a motion to adopt that resolution?

[3:43:08] It was moved by Councilman Parker,

[3:43:12] seconded by Councilman Jones.

[3:43:14] So that resolution regarding the conditional

[3:43:17] rezoning agreement on 43 East Columbia's before us.

[3:43:20] Mayor and planning team.

[3:43:27] This is, again, pretty simple.

[3:43:29] It's just allowing the formal execution of the agreement

[3:43:32] that constitutes the conditions that were offered

[3:43:36] by the applicant for 43 East Columbia.

[3:43:37] I don't know, manager Yandrick, if you have anything to add.

[3:43:41] And just procedurally, once this is signed by the applicant and the mayor, it is recorded

[3:43:45] on the property and it just helps us enforce these ordinance and that the site plan and

[3:43:50] the construction takes place in a timely manner.

[3:43:53] Thank you.

[3:43:53] Any further discussion?

[3:43:55] Any further discussion?

[3:43:56] Roll call clerk.

[3:43:57] Doyle, I'll endop you the resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute.

[3:44:00] The conditional rezoning agreement on 43 is Columbia.

[3:44:04] Yes.

[3:44:05] Yes.

[3:44:06] Yes.

[3:44:07] James.

[3:44:09] The Guinness.

[3:44:10] Yes.

[3:44:11] Parker.

[3:44:12] Six years.

[3:44:14] That motion carries the resolutions adopted.

[3:44:16] We're at number 10 on the agenda.

[3:44:18] This would approve a budget amendment.

[3:44:19] It was before us a few weeks ago, posting authorizing the posting of notice.

[3:44:24] The city has successfully secured $1 million in new grant funding from the state of Michigan.

[3:44:29] through the Eagle Roundfield redevelopment program grant.

[3:44:33] This is great.

[3:44:34] Well, I won't steal a thunder because we actually have

[3:44:36] this director here.

[3:44:37] Mayor, anything before we head into the director?

[3:44:40] No, please think it away.

[3:44:41] Director, I'm going to go.

[3:44:42] Good evening, Mayor, Deputy Mayor,

[3:44:44] and Honourable Councils and City of Pontiac.

[3:44:46] So this grant is to support the Lighthouse Project

[3:44:51] at 4.54, the grant is for the cleanup of the dirt of the land.

[3:45:00] So, the city is the direct recipient of the screen, and we'll work with Lighthouse to execute these

[3:45:04] funds.

[3:45:06] So, we previously authorized the agreement. Thank you for your team's work coordinating with

[3:45:12] Lighthouse. This just says, yes, we're going to update the budget to reflect that

[3:45:16] money coming in and then in the future going out. Any further discussion on this proposed budget

[3:45:21] amendment? This is again for this fiscal year, because you're expecting the funds before

[3:45:25] for the conclusion of this fiscal year.

[3:45:28] All right, I thought there was a move from Parker

[3:45:31] in a second from Jones.

[3:45:34] Is that right, Councilman Parker?

[3:45:36] Councilman Jones, they concur.

[3:45:39] Thank you for verifying that.

[3:45:41] So, it's been moved and seconded, any further discussion.

[3:45:47] Hearing on roll call, clerk Doyle and Donald

[3:45:48] from the resolution of proving the budget amendment

[3:45:51] for the $1 million and new grant funding.

[3:45:54] Good, man.

[3:45:56] Yes.

[3:45:56] James? Yes. Jones? Yes. The Guinness? Yes. Parker? Yes. Carrington? Yes. Six

[3:46:06] jays, no maids. That motion carries the resolutions that that did in the budget is amended.

[3:46:11] We're at number 11. Is there a motion to adopt the resolution approving that budget amendment for

[3:46:16] $100,000? So, it's been moved by Councilman Parker, second by Pro Tem, Carrington.

[3:46:21] This is similarly a state eagle Brownfield redevelopment program grant any amount of $100,000, it was before us two weeks ago

[3:46:30] Anything mayor before director Campbell director Campbell you have the floor.

[3:46:33] I would just like to clarify that this is actually not for Brownfield redevelopment, this is for the community energy program

[3:46:40] So we will use these funds to stack with our EECBG grant to provide lighting and the parks and some of the parks.

[3:46:49] All right, thank you. Yes, so it's just simply misstated on the agenda. Let me make sure the resolution has got the goods.

[3:46:57] We previously approved the agreement for this as well. Correct? Yes.

[3:47:00] And this will deal with lighting in our parks that accurate. Yes.

[3:47:06] Any further discussion on the motion?

[3:47:12] Is this grant also anticipated for this fiscal year? No, not this one.

[3:47:16] Okay. Okay.

[3:47:19] So this is also a men in this current budget for it.

[3:47:22] Okay.

[3:47:31] Pardon my pauses.

[3:47:31] I'll make sure the resolution's got the right language.

[3:47:34] Oh, you've got it.

[3:47:34] Thank you.

[3:47:37] Energy management.

[3:47:43] Can I please have a motion to amend the final therefore resolve some of?

[3:47:47] So that way it says community energy management grant instead of brownfield redevelopment

[3:47:52] program grant.

[3:47:54] It was moved by council and goodman.

[3:47:56] Seconded by Pro Temcaryton.

[3:47:58] Proctoiled, did you get that?

[3:47:59] It really just will map so that the first whereas in the final resolved.

[3:48:02] the grant name reflects the same community energy management grant.

[3:48:08] Good deal?

[3:48:10] All right, everyone clear it's the amendment.

[3:48:12] Just make sure the grant name aligns.

[3:48:15] Here you know for the discussion,

[3:48:16] roll call clerk, door on that.

[3:48:18] Adoption of that amendment.

[3:48:20] Jones?

[3:48:22] Yes.

[3:48:23] McGinnis?

[3:48:24] Yes.

[3:48:24] Parker?

[3:48:25] Yes.

[3:48:26] Carrington?

[3:48:27] Yes.

[3:48:28] Good min?

[3:48:28] Yes.

[3:48:29] James.

[3:48:30] Yes.

[3:48:31] Six years.

[3:48:32] No.

[3:48:32] Nice.

[3:48:33] That motion carries the resolution is amended.

[3:48:36] Any discussion on the resolution as amended?

[3:48:38] We're back to the main motion.

[3:48:40] Here in Unroll call clerk to all adoption of the resolution approving that budget amendment

[3:48:44] in the amount of $100,000 for us to receive that new state grant funding.

[3:48:50] Thank you.

[3:48:51] Thank you.

[3:48:52] Yes.

[3:48:53] Yes, Jones.

[3:48:56] Yes.

[3:48:56] McGinnis.

[3:48:57] Yes.

[3:48:58] Yes.

[3:48:59] Karen.

[3:48:59] Yes.

[3:49:01] Six years.

[3:49:03] Thank you.

[3:49:04] Motion carries.

[3:49:06] The Resolutions adopted the budget is amended.

[3:49:07] We're at number 12.

[3:49:09] This is a resolution approving the contract for state of Michigan grant funded work for the

[3:49:14] Meadow Drive Extension, the Clinton Retrial Extension, and the Center Point Parkway

[3:49:19] payment repair. It would be awarding it with co-wallet T construction for $5,171,057,000,

[3:49:27] $57 and $21,000. Is there a motion to support?

[3:49:31] It's been moved by Councilman Jones, seconded by President Carrington, so now it's before us

[3:49:35] for discussion, mayor and administration.

[3:49:41] I want to introduce this topic by saying that this all relates to the acquisition by the

[3:49:49] city for free of about 62 acres of land, previously owned by an entity called Crown Enterprises.

[3:50:00] And they donated the 62 acres to the city in part because they wanted to build a concrete

[3:50:09] plant in that vicinity, and they were given rezoning to facilitate that.

[3:50:16] That's 62 acres is allowing us to help resolve our park's deficit.

[3:50:22] So we talked about this two and a half years ago now.

[3:50:27] As part of that, there's a desire to try to keep the heavy trucks

[3:50:31] that go to that concrete plant off of city roads.

[3:50:36] And so this is to build a access road from that concrete plant

[3:50:41] directly out to Ubdike, which is a county road.

[3:50:44] So as to keep those heavy trucks off of Meadow, drive off of Center Point Parkway and off of South Boulevard, all of which are city roads.

[3:50:57] It's also designed to keep those concrete trucks away from the United whole-scale mortgage.

[3:51:04] We were able to obtain a grant funding to pay for all of this.

[3:51:09] So, this is at no charge to the city's general fund or our road funds and the grant that we receive has specific conditions associated with it about what it can be used for for roads and the clean river trail extension in that vicinity.

[3:51:30] So, this is money that cannot be used to improve other roads in the city.

[3:51:35] We heard concern about why are we using, why are we paying to improve these roads here and not fixing

[3:51:41] paddock, for example.

[3:51:43] Well, this is using money that's part of a state grant that is specific for this purpose.

[3:51:48] It cannot be used to improve paddock or otherwise general streets in the city.

[3:51:55] And so this is about trying to actually bring this to fruition to use the state grant dollars for the purpose that they're intended and for the purpose that they're restricted to in a way that make sure that we're keeping this heavy truck traffic from the concrete plant off of city roads so that they're not contributing to the deterioration of city roads while we also

[3:52:18] extend and improve the Clinton River Trail with the state grant dollars and improve centerpoint

[3:52:23] parkway with those state grant dollars. And with that I want to invite Alan Schneck who's been

[3:52:29] the outside engineer who's been working on this to add any additional information.

[3:52:42] Good evening, Council President, City Council, Mr. Mayor, Deputy Mayor. My name is Alan Schuck.

[3:52:48] I work at no-ack in front of engineers and was part of the design team and putting this together.

[3:52:54] and what the mayor stated is correct.

[3:52:58] This is a Michigan Economic Development Corporation grant

[3:53:02] in the amount of $7 and a half million dollars

[3:53:05] for this scope of work.

[3:53:09] The deadline to spend $7 is December 30th, 2025.

[3:53:20] Well, that's coming quick.

[3:53:22] So, just to break it down, this, the center point, Parkway pavement repair that will happen will be north of South Boulevard, correct?

[3:53:30] That's correct. So, the deteriorating portions, especially as it comes north, there's chunks there.

[3:53:36] Will it be a full-repeating or cutting out of the sections and repaving?

[3:53:39] It'll be sectional pavement repairs.

[3:53:43] But that's a public city road, so, although since it wasn't granted, we would have to be patching or paying for the...

[3:53:50] if it's deemed as a priority.

[3:53:53] But so the state funding will accomplish that.

[3:53:57] Will accomplish this extension of Meadow Drive

[3:53:59] to opt to act like the mayor already broke down.

[3:54:02] Can you share for the council and community

[3:54:04] what the Clinton River Trail extension will get us?

[3:54:08] What it will be the repairs being improvements being made.

[3:54:11] So essentially, the east side of updike

[3:54:15] is where the city of Auburn Hills

[3:54:18] of their Clinton River Trail extends easterly.

[3:54:21] This will provide men, pedestrian users to connect to the trail in Pontiac and run it

[3:54:28] up the existing rail corridor all the way up to where a future project along Pike Street

[3:54:36] will connect the trail through the City of Pontiac.

[3:54:40] So there will be trail improvements, there will be way finding some protective fence

[3:54:45] the long, the overpass on Auburn Road, so really a great project for nine motorized trail users.

[3:54:57] Okay. And no, I can browse, being a city of Pontiac located or at least partially located

[3:55:03] community, our company, the next item on our agenda, it's related, but it's its own separate vote.

[3:55:10] So you should, the council approve, you and your firm will be doing the construction and contract

[3:55:16] Administrating, you'd be the Administrator to ensure that there would be compliance with

[3:55:20] the city, state, any other requirements so that way this contractor should be approved

[3:55:26] that the construction project is proceeding appropriately on time and within the funding constraints.

[3:55:33] Absolutely. Okay. All right. Any other discussion on the resolution about this

[3:55:39] grant funded? We already voted as a city council to receive the grant that we entered in the

[3:55:44] grant agreement. We approve the funding coming in and now this is the completion part

[3:55:50] and you're saying it's got to be done by the end of this calendar year. Should the council

[3:55:55] give the green light tonight is there? Do you believe there's adequate window for the city

[3:56:00] to fulfill that grant requirement? Yeah, yeah, I would say so. The only concern that I would

[3:56:07] have is the restoration portion of it. Usually when the restoration is done in the fall,

[3:56:12] It doesn't really germinate until the springtime, but that would be the only concern.

[3:56:18] So the work could be done, but you're not able to do as direct quality control you're

[3:56:22] saying because you got to wait for the growth of the restoration.

[3:56:25] Right, usually when the seed and mulch in top soil are placed, it's usually dormant until the

[3:56:31] springtime when it germinates.

[3:56:35] Councilman James.

[3:56:37] Yes, it's pretty much against, it says that the project was competitively bid through the

[3:56:43] the money procurement process. Do you know, Colah was the little biter, but you know how

[3:56:51] many bids came in for that? I don't recall this coming to us previously. So do you know

[3:56:57] how many bids there were? Yeah, I believe there are three bids. Yeah, one was from a firm called

[3:57:04] Mark Anthony, the other firm. I believe was Florence cement.

[3:57:13] Okay. It is in our package way

[3:57:15] back, but tabulation of bids.

[3:57:17] I don't see it.

[3:57:18] It's right after they've got the renderings to show proposed

[3:57:22] quinder of a trail extension.

[3:57:24] Centerpoint Parkway repairs.

[3:57:27] I'm sorry there's no numbering.

[3:57:29] But then it shows tabulation of the bids.

[3:57:30] I see, but it just says that they were the low bidder.

[3:57:35] I don't see another.

[3:57:36] And they keep going.

[3:57:37] So the first one is coality.

[3:57:39] And then next up is second bidder.

[3:57:40] Mark Anthony contracting ink out of millford, third bidder,

[3:57:44] some company out of Shelby Township.

[3:57:51] Mayor Rumble?

[3:57:53] Yeah, just to follow up on that last question, Alan.

[3:57:56] So all three of those bid, the all-through of those contractors bid to do general contracting work.

[3:58:03] This is a total project.

[3:58:05] It wasn't broken out by this is for meadow.

[3:58:11] I guess I should say center point.

[3:58:13] This is for the update connector.

[3:58:14] This is for the Clean River Extension.

[3:58:16] I mean, the Clinton River extension in particular seems very different to me than the

[3:58:21] update connector and the centerpoint work, which is basic paving versus essentially a

[3:58:28] park improvement.

[3:58:29] So they were all bid as one thing, or were they bid out as separate pieces with different

[3:58:35] people submitting beds.

[3:58:37] One total bid for all three components, but we did break out phase one, phase two, phase three,

[3:58:45] So there was a bid tabulation for centerpoint,

[3:58:49] a bid tabulation for Clinton River Trail,

[3:58:52] and a bid tabulation for Meadow.

[3:58:54] But the contract award intent is for one contractor.

[3:59:00] Okay, and you would anticipate one contractor

[3:59:03] having the skill set to do all of those projects,

[3:59:08] both the roadways on the one hand,

[3:59:10] and the park project on the other.

[3:59:13] No, there'll be one prime contractor.

[3:59:15] and they'll probably be other subcontractors.

[3:59:19] There could be a subcontractor for pavement markings,

[3:59:22] subcontractor for traffic control devices.

[3:59:28] There will be a subcontractor to fabricate and install signage.

[3:59:34] So there will be multiple subcontractors, but one prime contractor.

[3:59:42] Councilman James, did you have a follow-up?

[3:59:45] I thought I saw your hand.

[3:59:46] I don't want to be surprised.

[3:59:48] Any further discussion on the motion before us?

[3:59:50] Any further discussion?

[3:59:52] So this is approving the contract for the state grant funded work.

[3:59:58] The contractor is co-wallet.

[4:00:00] 15 minutes, the singularotom of the theme.

[4:00:03] Everyone's clear on the motion, roll call, court, threatens the resolution.

[4:00:08] Again, yes.

[4:00:10] Yes,

[4:00:13] Wisconsin.

[4:00:14] Construction principles.

[4:00:15] j Medellison Flint corroded.

[4:00:26] balmgeon.

[4:00:26] Number 13, resolution approving no-awken trials contract for construction and contract administration

[4:00:32] on this state funded, same project, that contract for the administration is $610,000.

[4:00:41] Is there a motion to adopt that for the region?

[4:00:43] Is there a second?

[4:00:44] Second?

[4:00:45] It's been moved by President Kerrington, seconded by Councilman James, as a matter of

[4:00:48] not before us.

[4:00:50] Administration, anything further?

[4:00:52] Mr. Shankan, you want to break down what that would involve?

[4:00:55] Well, there are different components to administering a construction contract.

[4:01:01] We'd be doing construction staking.

[4:01:03] We'd be preparing the inspector daily reports.

[4:01:06] We'd be performing any testing on the materials that are being placed, preparing pay estimates.

[4:01:14] If there was any kind of change orders, if there were things encountered that were unforeseen.

[4:01:22] So, general administration and inspection services for this project.

[4:01:30] Any discussion on the motion?

[4:01:34] Hearing no discussion, roll call, clerk Doyle on adoption of the resolution?

[4:01:38] Parker?

[4:01:41] Canaryton?

[4:01:42] Yes.

[4:01:42] Goodman?

[4:01:43] Yes.

[4:01:44] James?

[4:01:45] Yes.

[4:01:45] James?

[4:01:46] Yes.

[4:01:48] Six jays and on a hays.

[4:01:50] Thank you, council.

[4:01:51] Thank you.

[4:01:51] Thank you for being here for a few hours till we got to it.

[4:01:53] All right, we're at number 14.

[4:01:55] Resolution of proving contract with Hubble Roth and Clark for citywide road signal

[4:02:00] monetization and sign-up grades, and Kenneth Road comprehensive improvements, 128,960,000,

[4:02:07] and 80 cents, and it comes from the city's major road funds.

[4:02:10] Councilman Goodman has moved as there a second.

[4:02:14] All right, move by Councilman Goodman, of the Kenneth Road Goodman's seconded by

[4:02:27] I want to turn this over to our Deputy Mayor to walk through the purpose of this and the and the specific nature of it.

[4:02:40] Thank you, Mayor.

[4:02:41] Good evening, Council.

[4:02:43] As the Mayor said, the director is at the APWA conference and this item is actually a slightly urgent timing

[4:02:51] timing, as you heard, Mr. Schneck talk about the timing for the grant that he was working

[4:02:58] on.

[4:02:59] This one also has timing requirements, and so that's why we kept it on to a nice agenda instead

[4:03:06] of asking to move it to the June 3rd agenda.

[4:03:10] Essentially, we have been granite funds through our highway maintenance program to be able

[4:03:20] to do signal modernization at several different sites

[4:03:23] throughout the city.

[4:03:25] And for this, we're looking at federal funding

[4:03:29] of $750,000 for the first set of projects.

[4:03:36] And then again, $750,000 for the second set of projects.

[4:03:41] The total amount that the city will be putting in

[4:03:45] is slightly over $300,000 on the construction of the projects.

[4:03:51] But this is not for the construction.

[4:03:52] This is for the oversight.

[4:03:54] So just as you heard, Mr. Schneck talk about the oversight

[4:03:57] that his company will be doing for the Meadow Drive Project.

[4:04:02] This is for Hubble Ruff and Clark to do the oversight

[4:04:05] of these projects, which includes improvement modernization

[4:04:09] of traffic signals at centerpoint parkway,

[4:04:12] The installation of a new hawk pedestrian signal with a refuge island on the Watton Boulevard between Colony Lane and Greenwood Lane and signage of grades at multiple intersections along Edison Street and all of those upgrades are secure funding through the Highway Safety Improvement Program for fiscal year 2026 and then the next set of funding is for

[4:04:39] improvements along Kinnit Road. And here we're talking about signal modernization at the

[4:04:46] intersections of Kinnit Road with the elementary school. And Stanley Avenue removal of the

[4:04:52] old pedestrian bridge. Installation of what reflective payment markings from the Eastern

[4:04:58] City Limit of Baldwin Road and signage of grades at several intersections of Sarah Soda and

[4:05:05] Sherry Law and Drive.

[4:05:10] This question on the matter, I'll give the floor to Councilman Goodman who represents the

[4:05:13] thorough care that's most directly going to be getting the goods.

[4:05:17] Yes, I'm going to say I'm very happy that this is kind of coming full circle because I've

[4:05:20] actually complained to Councilperson to Deputy Mayor about the pedestrian walk that's been

[4:05:26] arrested out since I've gotten an office and he knows that I have.

[4:05:31] I'm happy to finally see you see you, because I can I live on can it, I find that I live

[4:05:36] So I'm kind of arguably, I'd say, just under a majority of my life now, and I see kids

[4:05:42] like walk up and down, kind of to go to and from school, that they're going to and from

[4:05:47] Alcat as like actual small children who are walking to like older siblings who are, you know,

[4:05:52] getting off the bus and then walking that direction.

[4:05:55] And I think it's crucial and very important that we have that intersection, B.S.A.

[4:06:01] was possible.

[4:06:01] There's a school there.

[4:06:02] There's a bunch of apartments there with a bunch of kids who are walking.

[4:06:05] and there is also a church in a daycare there, in that same vicinity.

[4:06:10] So this is massively important, and the only thing that would be nicer than all these things

[4:06:15] would be getting, can it be repaved?

[4:06:17] Just since that will not happen at this moment, this is very exciting for me.

[4:06:22] So thank you.

[4:06:24] Good deal.

[4:06:24] Any further discussion?

[4:06:25] Good afternoon.

[4:06:26] Yes.

[4:06:26] Thank you, President Reganis.

[4:06:28] I definitely welcome the new signage on the Edison Street in a six district, but I also

[4:06:32] about a question concerning the pedestrian bridges over MLK.

[4:06:37] I noticed something that the city spoke about a couple of years ago about getting removed.

[4:06:42] So where are we at on that particular bridge getting removed?

[4:06:46] Yeah, I think it's happened in this year but is there need new or additional council votes

[4:06:50] or have we authorized adequately does the administration know or need to get back to us?

[4:06:55] I need to get back to you.

[4:06:58] But at least what was been shared previously, I can't remember the setting, but they shared

[4:07:01] that comes out this year but so we need to find out if it's all in place or still to come.

[4:07:08] No follow-up questions. Thank you for the discussion on the motion.

[4:07:12] Here in Unroll Call Court, Doyle on adoption of that resolution,

[4:07:15] approving the contract with Hubler Roth and Clark for citywide road signal

[4:07:19] monetization and sign-up grades and tenant road comprehensive improvements.

[4:07:24] Yes.

[4:07:26] Yes.

[4:07:27] Yes.

[4:07:29] Yes.

[4:07:30] Jones.

[4:07:32] The Guinness.

[4:07:34] Parker.

[4:07:35] Sixieres.

[4:07:36] Motion carries the resolutions adopted.

[4:07:39] We're at number 15 on the agenda.

[4:07:41] It's adoption of the City of Pontiac 2025-2026 General Appropriations Act Ordnance.

[4:07:47] Is there a motion to approve?

[4:07:50] It has been moved by the Secretary of the Council on the Jones.

[4:07:55] It is now before us for consideration.

[4:07:58] It had been read previously for a first time at the City Council.

[4:08:02] The previous City Council meeting, we have held multiple budget sessions, review sessions,

[4:08:09] and there was also a public hearing health earlier this afternoon.

[4:08:13] So now we come to further consideration of that proposed annual budget.

[4:08:20] This would run July 1st through June 30th.

[4:08:24] Our current slash aka new city charter requires it to be done, improved, and in the

[4:08:30] hopper by June 1st, which is rapidly approaching.

[4:08:34] So I want to give the floor to Mayor and the administration feel free at any point to turn it over

[4:08:39] finance director for broad overviews before we have more throughout deliberation from council.

[4:08:45] Thank you.

[4:08:46] So, as I've mentioned in the past and as council is aware, the past several years since

[4:08:51] we've all taken office, the city has been running annual budget surpluses, meaning each

[4:08:56] year the city has generated more revenue for the general fund than it has expanded in the

[4:09:03] form of expenditures and so the general fund has had surpluses and the general fund

[4:09:08] that has grown its fund balance each and every one of those years.

[4:09:15] That's been in part because we've ended up with higher revenues than expected.

[4:09:21] It's in part because we've had vacancies of certain positions throughout the year.

[4:09:26] This budget that we've proposed has a proposed, from the outset, a proposed surplus.

[4:09:35] Even if every single position is filled every single day of the year, it still projects a surplus.

[4:09:43] This is a big deal.

[4:09:44] It's been a long time since the city enacted a budget that at the outset had a projected surplus.

[4:09:53] I want to make sure that we give an opportunity to both the Deputy Mayor and our finance team Raymond,

[4:09:58] which is here to also speak to this, but this is just the latest demonstration of the very

[4:10:05] healthy fiscal position that the city is in. And Deputy Mayor, why don't I turn it over to

[4:10:10] you first, and then we can hear from Raymond. Thank you, Mayor. So just very, very briefly, I want

[4:10:16] to thank all of the city departments for working diligently over the past three years to get us to

[4:10:23] point where we could even contemplate this, and I want to thank the City Council for working

[4:10:29] with the administration again over the course of the past few years to get us to a point

[4:10:34] where we could even be talking realistically about saying, we think we can operate the

[4:10:41] city on a daily basis without having to dip into fund balance.

[4:10:45] And so with that, I will turn it over to the team at Raymond.

[4:11:03] Good evening, council, mayor, administration.

[4:11:09] Yes, we've had several meetings, have talked about all the different things that have been put into this budget.

[4:11:17] As was stated by the mayor tonight, we are proposing a budget with a small surplus, which I know that was the goal this year and has been the goal.

[4:11:29] So happy to stay back and happy to answer any questions.

[4:11:34] I didn't really have anything further to add other than what was

[4:11:36] already shared tonight.

[4:11:40] So, okay.

[4:11:40] So, what did you change?

[4:11:44] Why do I have a new document that was just handed to me?

[4:11:48] What has changed?

[4:11:53] I don't have a red line copy.

[4:11:55] What has changed?

[4:12:02] I think there was.

[4:12:03] Daniel, so these are all of the minor changes

[4:12:07] that we have been collecting through the budget hearings, do you have a list of them?

[4:12:16] I can,

[4:12:20] if you give me one moment.

[4:12:26] And the supplemental fiscal year of 2526 employer employee pay and benefit details

[4:12:32] is this informational or binding an obligatory?

[4:12:37] Yeah, how far I would you just give me this information?

[4:12:52] Excuse me, Comrade President, why are you referring to?

[4:12:54] Well, I think he's asking who distributed this latest document

[4:12:58] and why was it just distributed? And that's a good question.

[4:13:02] The clerk distributed, but there was a question about a different specific.

[4:13:07] There was a secondary packet called Fiscal Year 2526 employee pay and benefit details.

[4:13:15] It was received at the last council meeting as well.

[4:13:17] It's just been provided again. My question is,

[4:13:20] are you talking about the position control?

[4:13:23] I am telling you what it is titled.

[4:13:25] fiscal year 2526 employee pay in benefit details on department job tile is it binding in a

[4:13:34] obligatory or is it merely an informational adentum is descriptive is that your assessment

[4:13:40] as well.

[4:13:41] Yes, yes.

[4:13:43] So we are not voting on the employee pay in benefit details, are we?

[4:13:50] Well, you are voting on the pay that was included in the budget, which you did as

[4:13:54] to see where this is a expanding of what's as correct.

[4:13:58] Yes.

[4:13:59] So the change that was made on there, the clerk had noted that we had applied 3% to council and the mayor.

[4:14:07] And that cannot be decided except through the separate commission.

[4:14:11] So we removed that 3% change.

[4:14:14] So that's the only change that you will see that that was taken out.

[4:14:17] We'll have such a restrictive document be included in the ordinance as filed and adopted.

[4:14:25] It can be on the submit, yes.

[4:14:27] I'm not advocating for against.

[4:14:29] I want to know definitely what the administration's plan is because I need to help

[4:14:34] support the council's ability to know exactly what they're voting for.

[4:14:38] So normally, that would not be part of the ordinance.

[4:14:41] That is a descriptive document, a supporting piece.

[4:14:44] I welcome the additional detail I just need to make it specifically clear that what you see that additional breakdown staff member by staff member that helps us understand which departments

[4:14:56] what's all included in what's being approved, but we are not adopting

[4:15:00] This descriptive detail breakdown. That's right. That is not what's being voted on by city council this evening.

[4:15:08] Additionally, council president, I know one of the larger changes is the anticipated change for the courts.

[4:15:17] As you've heard us talk about, they are at a precipice for their union contract,

[4:15:25] and so we have anticipated that other than that, I'm not sure.

[4:15:29] The other one was the share of contract that you had emailed about the additional

[4:15:35] of props, or I'm sorry, the fire to fire contract, that had come in since the last meeting

[4:15:43] we had and based on the numbers that we were provided, we estimate about 150,000 more

[4:15:48] in the fire contract than what was originally presented to you.

[4:15:58] All right.

[4:16:00] City Council has provided feedback, changes have been incorporated, what you see before

[4:16:04] you is that incorporated changes.

[4:16:06] What we need long-term are long-term strategies for late neighborhood and local roads.

[4:16:13] What this budget does include is a greater investment in preventative maintenance in sealing

[4:16:18] of the roads of cutting-out sections of making new pavement where there's too much deterioration

[4:16:24] were patching. No longer works, but as residents rightfully identified, there is not in this budget

[4:16:31] substantial funds that would see a lot of new engineering or construction of neighborhood

[4:16:38] or local roads beyond what's already been budgeted and grant funded and state federal funds.

[4:16:46] So that is a glaring need that we will have to look to beyond just this immediate question.

[4:16:52] We have before us as the Council decision on a public work facility, whether we pursue that

[4:17:00] or not, that is not incorporated in this budget because that's still a pending decision.

[4:17:04] That would have to be an amendment to be made in the future budget if the community and

[4:17:10] this council takes that action.

[4:17:12] Similarly, investments in the youth recreation center from the general fund would have to be

[4:17:19] correct me if I'm wrong in the administration, that would be a separate standalone decision

[4:17:22] in coming months when that number is finalized.

[4:17:27] But Councilman James, you had a hand?

[4:17:29] I would wouldn't that be the purchase of some kind of a DPW facility, since we know that

[4:17:39] that has to happen within this budget year, wouldn't that be a part of the capital improvement,

[4:17:44] the projections there to say that of setting aside a certain amount within capital improvement

[4:17:51] for that because even though we haven't made any decision about it we do know it is a

[4:17:58] decision that has to be made in this fiscal year. So why wouldn't we some kind of way figure

[4:18:05] out a way to incorporate that into this fiscal year's budget? Just a projection of it.

[4:18:11] The current budget does not include a comprehensive capital improvement plan, where they're forecasting out.

[4:18:18] All it includes is the capital improvement projects they know of this year for the fiscal year.

[4:18:24] So that is something that's a still a deficiency in the current city operations

[4:18:28] that in the coming months we're going to keep force in the matter,

[4:18:33] because it's overdue. We expect it. It's a standard that needs to happen.

[4:18:39] And you're absolutely right, that would be front and center, and the question is, where is it fall on the timeline and the priority status, and that needs to be true for all property, you know, property or capital improvements, we gotta have a comprehensive.

[4:18:56] And so that was discussed a lot last week, not with finality, we do have facilities and property subcommittee meeting this Friday, where we hope to get a lot more candid direct answers on.

[4:19:09] when it will come before the city council.

[4:19:12] But at least with this current budget,

[4:19:13] all we've got are the capital improvement projects

[4:19:15] for this fiscal year that they know of that are baked

[4:19:19] in already that they outlined last week.

[4:19:22] It does not include the price tag of public works facility.

[4:19:27] Well, I guess my next question would then be

[4:19:30] to administration, what is the plan if you're not going to,

[4:19:34] if it's not going to be a part of the 2025, 26

[4:19:38] budget that we need to approve tonight. What is your plan for how this DPW facility,

[4:19:48] however, that unfolds, how that's going to, what's the plan? Because this is what we're

[4:19:55] trying to do with a fiscal budget is to incorporate all of the elements that are going to

[4:20:02] be coming up within the next year. So what is the plan for how that's going to be handled

[4:20:10] If it's not in this budget, how does administration plan to handle the purchase of a DPW facility?

[4:20:19] Thank you, Councilwoman.

[4:20:21] So,

[4:20:24] it is on to Knightsagenda, which we have already determined will not be acted on tonight,

[4:20:30] but it is on tonight's agenda to put forth the proposal to purchase a DPW facility at $12 million.

[4:20:41] with out knowing if that is actually going to be the direction that we go in or not.

[4:20:48] We did not include that particular capital investment.

[4:20:52] If we decide to go in that direction, we would bring back an amendment for that.

[4:20:58] If we don't decide to go in that direction, then that leaves us with a very interesting

[4:21:04] because the temporary facility that we have the ability to go to would not last us very long and then we would have to really be looking at the cost of building a new facility from the ground up, which is estimated to be about $38 million.

[4:21:26] So, because we have that wide swing from $12 million to $38 million, we did not include

[4:21:36] a dollar figure until we know what direction we're moving in.

[4:21:41] Mayor Grimwell.

[4:21:42] Yeah, I think to try to answer the question as plainly as possible, Councilwoman, ideally we

[4:21:49] would have a specific plan approved by City Council before adopting the budget.

[4:21:54] We don't want to be presumptuous about what City Council is going to do in terms of

[4:21:58] direction for a DPW facility. And we need to pass the budget as you know before the end of June.

[4:22:05] So, excuse me, before the end of May, before June 1st. And so, we want to get the budget passed

[4:22:10] to the extent that a decision by City Council regarding a DPW facility deviates from that budget.

[4:22:19] We'll have to amend the budget as the short answer and we can do that.

[4:22:24] For the discussion?

[4:22:26] Taking a step back, people of Pontiac, this is not an exciting budget.

[4:22:32] It does not include a lot of really dramatic, amazing, miraculous changes.

[4:22:38] It is, for lack of better words, a very conservative, straightforward budget.

[4:22:44] And that's in part by design.

[4:22:45] The administration outlined that, that's what they were at their request was by design.

[4:22:49] And the city council is receptive to that because a transition of leadership is inevitable.

[4:22:55] We are at the conclusion the last six plus months of these current city council members in this current mayor that people of Pontiac will determine who their next leader is for four years to come.

[4:23:07] Meaning, no matter what is adopted tonight and what is amended in the six months to come, there will be a new roster of leaders, though maybe some carry over might be a lot of carry over.

[4:23:17] That's the voters to decide, but that there will have to be a reassessment of financial and

[4:23:22] budget priorities at the beginning of the next calendar year, January and going forward.

[4:23:28] And then the new budget has to be gotten ready, like Pronto, so that way it's presented

[4:23:34] by the charter mandate of April 15th, so that means the new mayor in Council has to come

[4:23:38] up with a new request for the July through June to come in a matter of weeks, really.

[4:23:45] And so we recognize that there will be some changes we have to make in the next six months to come.

[4:23:51] If there's any final financial impacts that are carrying out that have been debated at length,

[4:23:58] but aren't ready to be decided now.

[4:24:00] We are required by the charter to have a budget in place by June 1st,

[4:24:05] which gives a full month before the new fiscal year starts.

[4:24:07] So, should this be adopted tonight, it satisfies that requirement, but it does not close the

[4:24:14] door on the community through the council amending the budget for the next 12 months

[4:24:19] to come.

[4:24:20] Six, the next six months will be with the current cast of characters, and then will be

[4:24:24] a new cast of characters starting July and moving forward.

[4:24:28] And there might have to be some swift consideration of budget amendments should the future

[4:24:32] Council receive requests from the future mayor that has any other budgetary priorities.

[4:24:40] So, as much as we do want more proactive positive progress, this does include progress,

[4:24:48] but it doesn't have dramatic departures.

[4:24:51] It doesn't involve massive reorganization.

[4:24:54] It does not involve massive hiring or firing.

[4:24:56] It does not involve the massive ending or beginning of initiatives.

[4:25:00] It's really sort of the final, I won't call it, I won't even use the C word, I was about to say coasting, that's not right.

[4:25:09] But it's just like that final conclusion of this current leadership and the executive and legislative side, and it gives greater ability for the future leadership team to make any decisions that reflect the new, the next chapter, if you will.

[4:25:31] So I capture that right, Council.

[4:25:33] Do you think I summarize that right?

[4:25:36] Protem and then Councilman Parker?

[4:25:40] Yes.

[4:25:41] Thank you, President.

[4:25:42] I think definitely you, you summed it up very well of what we're expecting.

[4:25:47] And I'd just like to commend the administration and make sure that we keep this budget

[4:25:55] to the point and not to inflate it.

[4:25:59] But, I do have one question about one line under department, two to eight information technology,

[4:26:08] where it says, for professional service, BSNA, the request from the department was $80,000,

[4:26:15] and that went up to $235,085,085, could you just give me a rationale for that increase?

[4:26:22] Yes, sir. That is a change in the actual fundamental BSNA service. So currently we are on

[4:26:34] their O-service and that is switching us to their web-based service.

[4:26:39] All right. Thank you.

[4:26:41] And currently is BSNA used charge to multiple different departments or different funds.

[4:26:46] and this is going to localize it all in IT, or was IT will be IT going forward?

[4:26:53] I cannot remember if last year we had finished the consolidation, but that is what

[4:27:00] is happening.

[4:27:01] Historically there was a little more fragmented charging.

[4:27:06] Further discussion?

[4:27:09] So you heard from the, I'm sorry, yes, Councilman Parker, you were next on the speakers list.

[4:27:12] I just want to make sure that if we approve this budget tonight, we still have up to

[4:27:15] to amend it.

[4:27:17] Yes.

[4:27:18] Yes.

[4:27:18] Yet the charter just requires we post, we're required to post notice of amendments so that

[4:27:23] same procedure will ring true.

[4:27:25] We can and may still amend just like we did tonight for those two different grant money.

[4:27:31] If something's going to change, we want to balance out the end of this current year, so we might

[4:27:35] do a few more amendments just to make sure it aligns and meet state law.

[4:27:40] And then starting July 1st with the new fiscal year, all throughout the year, the budget

[4:27:43] can be amended to reflect higher revenues, lower or higher expenses, or other different initiatives

[4:27:50] so that way more time can allow for it, more research review and community input.

[4:27:57] Mayor Grimley, you had a hint?

[4:27:59] Yeah, just to amplify what President McGinnis said, the goal of this budget is to provide

[4:28:07] for the implementation of initiatives that have already been announced and launched.

[4:28:14] It's not designed to facilitate new initiatives beyond many of those that are already in

[4:28:22] process, and we want to make sure get off the ground and get across the finish line.

[4:28:27] But more importantly, perhaps, I did just want to correct some misinformation from a previous

[4:28:33] elected official who spoke on this.

[4:28:36] She questioned whether there was funding for road projects in the budget.

[4:28:41] And I just want to be clear that in terms of road repairs, in terms of all things roads,

[4:28:46] those will not be found in the general budget, general fund budget, which is, of course, part of this budget.

[4:28:51] It will be found in the major streets and local streets, the major roads and local roads, budgets.

[4:28:57] They're also part of this budget.

[4:28:59] But the funding is part of those funds to make sure that we can properly maintain the roads

[4:29:07] and streets in the city.

[4:29:09] And so I'm not sure what the previous mayor was referring to, but I do just want to reassure

[4:29:13] the community that the major road funds, the local street fund, are part of this budget.

[4:29:19] They do provide funding for us.

[4:29:23] For the discussion on the proposed fiscal year, budget appropriations and ordinance.

[4:29:30] It has been read multiple times.

[4:29:33] Should Council want to have further amendments or changes or research and review.

[4:29:38] We just need to pursue that special meeting.

[4:29:41] We have scheduled for May 27th as that final opportunity.

[4:29:46] We need to make sure that we do adopt it before June 1st.

[4:29:49] So after this meeting, there is a regular meeting that occurs before that deadline.

[4:29:54] So we have to do some scheduling to fulfill that charter mandated response

[4:29:59] stability.

[4:30:00] Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion?

[4:30:08] Hearing none, roll call, clerk Doyle on adoption of the City of Pontiac 20, fiscal year 2526,

[4:30:15] general appropriations act ordinance. Jones? Yes.

[4:30:22] Yes.

[4:30:24] Yes.

[4:30:26] Yes.

[4:30:26] Carrington?

[4:30:27] Yes.

[4:30:28] Goodman?

[4:30:29] Yes.

[4:30:30] James.

[4:30:31] Yes.

[4:30:32] Six jays.

[4:30:33] No names.

[4:30:34] Motion carries the ordinances adopted.

[4:30:36] Number 16 on the agenda.

[4:30:38] Resolution approving city of Paniac annual fee schedule for the upcoming fiscal year.

[4:30:43] Is there a motion to approve?

[4:30:45] Is there a second?

[4:30:45] Support.

[4:30:47] It's been moved and seconded.

[4:30:49] It was previously reviewed, previously discussed, mostly it is maintaining the same fees that

[4:30:58] are to your existence at the same rates, but it's a standalone document, so that way that it can

[4:31:05] be amended without having to try and do a whole budget ordinance change.

[4:31:12] Clerk Doyle, Deputy Mayor, I am not immediately showing the resolution in front of me.

[4:31:16] do you have it at your disposal?

[4:31:21] Okay, here we go. Resolution to adopt the 2025-26 fee

[4:31:25] schedule, whereas the city of Paniac must pass a yearly fee schedule, and whereas the

[4:31:30] city of Paniac is actually and has reviewed the former fee schedule, and whereas the city

[4:31:34] of Paniac is actually and has made suggested changes to the schedule based on the cost provided

[4:31:38] services and services to be provided, and whereas the city of Paniac City Council has reviewed

[4:31:42] those changes, and whereas the city of Paniac City Council has made additional changes, and

[4:31:46] as the proposed fees schedules

[4:31:48] complying with the requirements of state law.

[4:31:50] Now, therefore, it'd be resolved

[4:31:51] that the Pontiac City Council here

[4:31:52] by adopts the attached proposed

[4:31:55] fees scheduled to be in effect

[4:31:56] for the 2526 this year from July 1, 2025

[4:31:59] through June 30th, 2026.

[4:32:02] It's a type of graphical, but in the final resolved,

[4:32:06] the word hereby needs to be H-E-R-E-B-Y.

[4:32:11] Clerk, are we okay with having that just

[4:32:13] grammatically being corrected,

[4:32:14] or does it need a motion?

[4:32:15] Okay.

[4:32:21] The clerk seems cool with correct in it. All right, so it the spelling error has been corrected

[4:32:28] with what's before us. It was moved in second, correct clerk? All right, so now it's before us

[4:32:35] for discussion, any discussion?

[4:32:40] Hearing no discussion, roll call, and just like the budget, it could be changed mid year.

[4:32:45] So if we find that there's something that we want to modify or additional changes, roll call and adoption

[4:32:51] of that resolution, Court Doyle.

[4:32:54] The Guinness.

[4:32:55] Parker.

[4:32:57] Carrington.

[4:32:58] Yes.

[4:32:59] Goodman.

[4:33:00] Yes.

[4:33:01] James.

[4:33:03] Yes.

[4:33:04] Jones.

[4:33:04] Yes.

[4:33:05] Six Jays.

[4:33:06] And motion carries the resolutions adapted.

[4:33:10] We're at number 17.

[4:33:12] This was before City Council previously.

[4:33:14] And we postponed it from a previous meeting.

[4:33:16] Resolution approving to purchase agreement for 300 West Shear-On

[4:33:19] Street property for public works operations.

[4:33:21] and authorizing the Mayor to execute the agreement,

[4:33:24] initiating the due diligence periods for structural

[4:33:26] and site assessment.

[4:33:28] This is the former Pontiac Central High School,

[4:33:31] now privately owned and substantially upgraded and modified.

[4:33:38] Deputy Mayor, I'm seeing what's on the screen.

[4:33:40] Was there some overviews that you were trying to make

[4:33:42] before we likely postpone until the June 3rd meeting?

[4:33:45] I am happy to wait until June 3rd.

[4:33:49] So, again, we want to postpone this to June 3rd, so that with a community can

[4:33:53] deliberate and discuss more, we will be having a thorough presentation to the community

[4:33:57] at that council meeting and a public hearing to follow so people can raise more questions

[4:34:02] asked offer feedback.

[4:34:04] Our council members, comfortable with that approach.

[4:34:08] I have moved to postpone to June.

[4:34:12] So, the program, Carrington has moved and Councilman Jones is seconded that this item be postponed

[4:34:18] once more to the June 3rd, or at least that first June meeting, I hope I'm not getting

[4:34:23] the date wrong.

[4:34:23] But the first June meeting of the Paniac City Council, which can be in tandem with the

[4:34:28] public hearing and special presentation on the same topic.

[4:34:32] Any further discussion on the motion of post-pone?

[4:34:35] Hearing on roll call, court, Doyle on post-pone,

[4:34:37] Chairman, Harker, yes, Harrington, yes, goodman, yes, James, yes, Jones, yes, McGinnis,

[4:34:49] yes, six shades, no names.

[4:34:53] That motion carries.

[4:34:55] The resolution has been postponed.

[4:34:56] We're at number 18.

[4:34:57] Resolution to approve the budget amendment.

[4:34:59] We've previously posted notice of this.

[4:35:01] For the down payment should the council make this decision before the end of the fiscal year.

[4:35:06] We would want to do a budget amendment so we can do the down payment, which is refundable.

[4:35:10] We want to postpone that, too, because we're not going to do that if we don't take the action.

[4:35:15] It's been moved by Councilman Jones, seconded by Councilman Goodman, that this resolution, the current number 18,

[4:35:21] be postponed as well to the June 1st June City Council meeting.

[4:35:25] Anyone need clarity on that motion of postpone?

[4:35:29] Hearing none, roll call, clerk Doyle on postponement.

[4:35:34] Yes.

[4:35:35] Goodman.

[4:35:36] Yes.

[4:35:38] Jones.

[4:35:39] Yes.

[4:35:39] McGinnis.

[4:35:40] Yes.

[4:35:41] Parker.

[4:35:43] Six shades.

[4:35:44] No names.

[4:35:45] All right.

[4:35:46] That motion to postpone carries.

[4:35:48] It will be back before us in early June.

[4:35:51] We are now at communications.

[4:35:53] The first item.

[4:35:54] I'm going to use that to prompt a motion to suspend the rules.

[4:35:57] We have currently scheduled a budget special meeting for next Tuesday.

[4:36:01] But we do not need it because the budget has been adopted. Could I please have a motion to suspend the rules to take up a resolution canceling that meeting?

[4:36:10] All right, it's been moved by Councilman Goodman, second by Councilman Jones, that we suspend the rules to take up a resolution not currently on the previously adopted agenda.

[4:36:21] So, any discussion on suspending the rules, just allowing us to take up this new item?

[4:36:26] Hearing unroll call clerk, do I on the motion to suspend the rules?

[4:36:31] Yes.

[4:36:32] Goodman?

[4:36:33] James?

[4:36:34] Yes.

[4:36:35] Yes.

[4:36:36] Yes.

[4:36:37] McGinnis?

[4:36:38] Yes.

[4:36:38] Parker.

[4:36:40] Six jays in the name.

[4:36:41] That motion carries the rules suspended.

[4:36:44] Now, I would like to entertain a resolution that reads that be it hereby resolve the

[4:36:50] Connie Exity Council officially cancels the previously scheduled special meeting for Tuesday, May

[4:36:58] 27, 2025.

[4:37:01] It's been moved by Councilman Goodman, seconded by Councilman Jones, that we adopt that

[4:37:06] resolution.

[4:37:08] Did you get it sufficiently clerked oil?

[4:37:11] Thank you, sir.

[4:37:12] And the discussion at motion?

[4:37:14] Again, to recap, we no longer need to have a meeting next Tuesday because the budget has been

[4:37:19] to put to bed until we amend it further?

[4:37:27] Yes, if correct, if this resolution is adopted, I mean I could still say, hey, no reason to

[4:37:33] meet, but I'm just trying to make a clear cut to reflect the will of this body.

[4:37:38] If you still want to have a special meeting, we'll have a special meeting.

[4:37:41] Your vote, your choice.

[4:37:44] Here I know for the discussion, roll call,

[4:37:46] I've worked with the resolution canceling the special meeting for next Tuesday that had previously been scheduled.

[4:37:53] Good, yes. James Jones. Yes.

[4:37:58] Yes.

[4:38:01] Marker.

[4:38:02] I mean, Karen, too. Yes. Six.

[4:38:06] That motion carries. The resolution is adopted. There will no longer be a meeting the day after Memorial Day.

[4:38:13] So happy Memorial Day to the city, the citizens, and the city council.

[4:38:18] All right, closing comments, Mayor Vribal.

[4:38:25] Well, I want to try to help us get out of here

[4:38:28] to reasonable hours.

[4:38:29] I'll keep it brief since I think this will be one of our earlier meetings.

[4:38:34] But I did just want to respond because it's been brought up repeatedly,

[4:38:39] meeting, after meeting, after meeting.

[4:38:41] And I really didn't want to have to address it because it's nonsense, but given that the previous

[4:38:50] mayor continues to harp on this demolition list, I just want to set the record straight.

[4:38:57] When we came into office, we inherited a demolition list with hundreds of properties on it.

[4:39:05] And we did a lot of due diligence on those properties to the best of our ability to determine

[4:39:12] do these many hundreds of structures really have to be demolished, and it became clear

[4:39:18] that most of them didn't.

[4:39:21] Maybe some were questionable, and we needed to do some additional due diligence, including

[4:39:26] going out to the property or going inside the property.

[4:39:29] And so we sent letters to those property owners, saying and explaining to them that they're

[4:39:34] property ended up on a demolition list, we wanted to check out the property.

[4:39:39] It's as simple as that.

[4:39:41] And the vast majority of these properties got on the demolition list under the previous

[4:39:46] mayor.

[4:39:46] And so for her to come to these meetings and be in dignity about these properties being on

[4:39:52] the demolition list, when they were put on the demolition list, under her administration

[4:39:57] is really absurd, frankly.

[4:40:01] And so all we're doing is trying to appropriately remove properties from the old demolition list from her time as mayor that don't need to be on the demolition list, and that's what we've been doing.

[4:40:13] And so the letters that were sent to property owners was just part of that due diligence to ensure that we're not demolishing properties that do not need to be demolished and that we're getting them off of the demolition list.

[4:40:28] I guess that's your closing comment, anything further?

[4:40:32] Thank you.

[4:40:32] Do you have any mayor?

[4:40:34] Clerk Doyle.

[4:40:36] Okay.

[4:40:37] We are entering the season on which those three gentlemen have their birthdays.

[4:40:42] June is hot and heavy for Parker Grimell, Stephens and Doyle.

[4:40:48] But it is the season of Catholic.

[4:40:53] So now that she's trying to make it a public spectacle, but I just want to say happy birthday,

[4:40:57] and thank you for sacrificing sharing.

[4:41:01] So much of your valuable time to move the city of Pontiac forward.

[4:41:05] It's made a great difference.

[4:41:07] There's still much more difference to be made.

[4:41:09] Happy, happy, happy birthday.

[4:41:10] You are a blessing to this council in this community.

[4:41:13] And with that, you get to have your closing comment first.

[4:41:16] What a treat.

[4:41:17] I got a ton of things.

[4:41:19] I'm glad we're finishing fairly early tonight.

[4:41:23] But our district council meeting is this Thursday.

[4:41:26] It actually falls on my birthday and I decided not to cancel it so I'm going to go ahead and have a birthday district council meeting.

[4:41:37] This Thursday evening at 6 p.m.

[4:41:40] So come out and help me enjoy my birthday.

[4:41:45] This meeting is going to be at New Mount Mariah International Church.

[4:41:48] Our special guests will be what a resource director, Jim Nash,

[4:41:52] And also our city of Pontiac events coordinator Rob and see you to talk about all the great things that are happening in the city, so we hope to see you there.

[4:42:03] Also, this week is, this weekend is going to be the last weekend for our spring cleanup, so we have a number of dumpsters that are going to be deployed in the end district four, we have dumpsters on first and third street.

[4:42:18] And we also have two dumpsters that will be deployed at the Oakland Hope in the CBS parking lot.

[4:42:29] This weekend so if there's if you didn't finish your cleanup in District 4 and you know when we had in previous weekends you can bring whatever you have out this weekend.

[4:42:43] And this will be the last weekend for this report that we will have dumpsters in the community.

[4:42:51] My final comment is just in looking at all of the things that were approved tonight.

[4:42:57] We approved a number of contracts for work in the city on tonight.

[4:43:04] And I am concerned that, you know, we have asked for a community benefits ordinance to be approved and put in place.

[4:43:18] I do know that we're working on that, but we need to make this happen, because looking at the contracts that we approve tonight,

[4:43:29] If we, many of them would come under a community benefits program and you know, we also had a suggestion from a member of the public about getting a local preference clause in our procurement policies that we, you know, where we prefer

[4:43:51] Ponyac residents, businesses that are originate in the city of Ponyac.

[4:43:56] We've got a long way to go to make these things happen, but we just can't go to sleep on

[4:44:02] them.

[4:44:03] We need a community benefits program.

[4:44:06] We need one, and we've been working on it, and everything takes so long, but I just want

[4:44:12] go on record to say that we need to get a community benefits ordinance approved in this city

[4:44:21] as soon as possible, because we really need to take the action that we should take to

[4:44:28] allow Pontiac residents to be a part of the progress and the wonderful things that are

[4:44:34] happening in our city.

[4:44:37] Thank you.

[4:44:38] Thank you. I do want to make a point that Pontiac Resident Prince Car had submitted a written

[4:44:46] comments to the city council. I've shared that with the council members, but I shouldn't

[4:44:52] have assumed he wanted to speak publicly during public comment, but that I should have

[4:44:56] read it. So I want to apologize for my misunderstanding.

[4:45:00] I'll work to correct that at the next city council meeting where we read his remarks during the public comment, as well, so I apologize about that.

[4:45:08] We'll get that fixed.

[4:45:10] All right. Continuing on closing comments, Councilman Parker.

[4:45:16] Thank you both, President. Just want to remind everybody about the district five meeting June 12th at 5 p.m. in the Shrine Room downstairs.

[4:45:24] So looking forward to seeing everybody there. Want to remind everybody about the music in the park, June 5th.

[4:45:29] In Galaway Park, please everybody come out and have a good time with us.

[4:45:32] I also want to remind everybody that May, I said this so it may appear at Mount Park's cemetery

[4:45:38] Memorial Day ceremony, May 26 at 11 a.m. Please come back and help us to celebrate all of those

[4:45:46] who gave their lives Memorial Day. It's 11 a.m. in Paramount Park, we do a celebration for the veterans

[4:45:55] if y'all would please come. I'll be out there. I'm sure all the veterans would be out there,

[4:45:59] me and me and Pat, but the care will be out there, celebrate. And so we look forward to seeing

[4:46:03] you, and I'll just say, you know, as we approve this, but there's a lot of things that you

[4:46:08] probably did not see, but I'm sure it will be addressed in some way, shape, or form, in the coming weeks.

[4:46:13] Thank you very much, and have a great day. Thank you, Councilman Jones. No comment. Thank you.

[4:46:23] I'm very excited, and there will be a number of community people helping

[4:46:30] center events happening this summer in District 3, of course, one of them being

[4:46:35] safe with me now.

[4:46:36] The pullover prevention clinic happening in July on the 13th.

[4:46:40] But also separate of that, just a quick little thing.

[4:46:43] For those of you who remember how old I am, I'm 25.

[4:46:46] I have never been to a P-D-D or R-K-L-E-Concent, because unfortunately,

[4:46:53] or very fortunately, I was too young when they were popular and probably from my safety.

[4:47:00] It was pretty good thing that I was not old enough to be there.

[4:47:02] So as a 25-year-old resident of this council, I was a happily-go-on record and say that

[4:47:08] I've never been to a concert start by single-letter last name.

[4:47:14] Have a good night, everyone.

[4:47:18] Council.

[4:47:19] Thank you President McGinnis, first and foremost, I would like to thank everybody for coming

[4:47:23] out tonight.

[4:47:24] I know sometimes I mean it's a long but we definitely move the need on a lot of different

[4:47:27] items.

[4:47:29] I just want to thank everybody who came out to my STEM event, which was held at Pontiac Academy

[4:47:34] Excellence.

[4:47:35] It was a great event with kids first initiative and Pontiac High robotics team was there

[4:47:40] as well.

[4:47:41] Especially shout out to the Michigan dolphins, you football team that brought some of their team

[4:47:47] members out to that event. Also, a special thank you for James McQueen who make things happen

[4:47:54] for our city council. So again, I can thank you for the work that he done.

[4:48:00] Our district's sixth meeting is this Thursday at 6 p.m. at Ruth Peterson. Please come out

[4:48:05] and find out what the city is doing. We also have our neighborhood awards night for the

[4:48:12] sixth district. That's the same night. That's the same night and that's where we're going

[4:48:16] that's been put in the work in the sixth district.

[4:48:19] Those on song heroes that don't get the name called a lot,

[4:48:22] but actually day-to-day every day is doing

[4:48:26] something positive in neighborhoods across the sixth district.

[4:48:30] This event means a lot to me because I've seen people work

[4:48:33] for years and years without any recognition.

[4:48:39] And sometimes those that go out and do it one time

[4:48:42] feel they deserve a resolution by the City Council.

[4:48:45] But we got people doing this stuff year by year and never come down here and demand anything from the city council.

[4:48:54] So I'm honored to get those wars Thursday.

[4:48:58] Also, the first ever man's business expo city of Pontiac, June 7th, downtown Pontiac at the Volk.

[4:49:08] If you know any man that have businesses in the city of Pontiac, or vendors, please contact us.

[4:49:14] It's no feet of getting in.

[4:49:16] They just got to show up and want to sell their goods to the residents of City of Pontiac

[4:49:23] in their friends.

[4:49:24] So again, this is unheard of.

[4:49:27] No registration fee to get in.

[4:49:29] And we know when we had these events, it's usually costs $100 fee.

[4:49:33] And sometime more depend on this event for vendors to get in.

[4:49:38] So we offer this free to the community if you mail vendor in this city.

[4:49:42] Please contact me or James McQueen for the City Council when we will make sure this happens for us.

[4:49:50] Also, Brothers United for change has actually been working on this for with me.

[4:49:54] So again, thank that organization as well and good night.

[4:49:58] Thank you.

[4:49:59] Good evening.

[4:49:59] I'm Mike McGinnis, President of the City Council, but representative on the District 7 East Side.

[4:50:05] Prince Car is a resident of our District 7 on the East Side.

[4:50:08] the Prince of the East Side living on North East Way.

[4:50:12] He's been for many years carrying for a landlocked,

[4:50:16] meaning, you know, it can't get to it from the street.

[4:50:18] It's landlocked, parcel parcel in his neighborhood

[4:50:22] that the city owns for many years.

[4:50:25] And so what he is proposing to the city is a way for to finalize

[4:50:30] what has already been practically happening,

[4:50:33] which is him as a private citizen, maintaining it.

[4:50:37] So that's what will continue to share and amplify out so that way his request could be considered by the city of Pontiac.

[4:50:44] I really want to take a few moments just to say thank you to the city council.

[4:50:50] A lot of folks are sacrificing a lot of time, but also there are personal discomfort dealing with illnesses dealing with a lot of scheduling challenges and stripes.

[4:50:59] So thank you for bearing with it so that way the citizens can have decisions made and they

[4:51:05] can have the answers inverted and we keep moving as a city.

[4:51:09] And finally, thank you to the City Council staff to Shureka Hawkins, our Chief of Staff,

[4:51:14] to James McQueen, our outreach specialist, and Anjali to Santiago are administrative assistant.

[4:51:20] We also have interns that internship opportunities with the Paniac City Council, including

[4:51:26] stipends available. So if you know of a student or a community member that you think would be

[4:51:32] a great for that, please have them reach out to our City Council Chief of Staff, or I can help you

[4:51:37] connect with that opportunity to just want to amplify that. With the adoption of this budget,

[4:51:42] the City Council operations will continue with increased engagement, increased district projects,

[4:51:49] increased responsiveness and services. This branch of your City Government has worked very hard

[4:51:55] to grow with the demands and expectations of the residents of all sites of town with all seven districts,

[4:52:03] and we'll work in these final six, well, now seven months, seven months, right?

[4:52:09] The rest of the year, to finish strong and continue to deliver for plenty of residents.

[4:52:15] Okay, please have a motion.

[4:52:17] It's been moved by Councilman Goodman, seconded by Councilman Jones,

[4:52:21] that we during this evening's meeting.

[4:52:23] Any discussion on the motion hearing on roll call,

[4:52:25] clerk Doyle.

[4:52:26] Hearings in?

[4:52:27] Yes.

[4:52:28] Good evening.

[4:52:30] James?

[4:52:31] Yes.

[4:52:33] McGinnis?

[4:52:34] Yes.

[4:52:35] Parker?

[4:52:35] Yes.

[4:52:36] Six jays.

[4:52:37] That motion carries.

[4:52:38] We stand adjourned at 951 PM.

[4:52:40] Please be safe.

Pontiac City Council

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