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We will begin the working
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session of the Council of the Association of
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Police
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Charities
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on
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Thursday, September 3,
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2026. Please
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stand for the oath.
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I pledge
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allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of
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America and to
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the republic it
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represents. One nation
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under God, indivisible
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, with liberty and
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justice for
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all.
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Secretary, please
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take a
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roll call.
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Mayor John Cooper is
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here.
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Vice Mayor Chris Meyer is
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here.
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Councilman Robert
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Hubbard is
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here. Council member Lisa
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Burke is
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here.
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Council member Christine
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Sullivan is
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here.
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City Attorney
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Nancy Meyer is here.
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Acting
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City Manager
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Salikeri is
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here.
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Thank you. The first point
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is comments from
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the public. And
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we still don't have any
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public representatives at the
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meeting. So I'm
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closing the time for
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public comment.
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Let's move on to the
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city
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manager's comments. I'll give the
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floor to Mr. Carey for
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his comments.
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They are gone now.
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OK. Moving
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on to the
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city prosecutor's comments.
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Miss, do you have any
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comments?
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No.
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OK. Thank you.
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Next up is
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Council agenda item
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number one: an agreement between the
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Police
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Benevolent Association
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(PBA) and
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the City of Port Richey for
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2026-2029. I will hand it over to
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Mr. O'Carey for
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presentation.
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Port Richey Police Association,
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oh my god.
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Thank you, gentlemen,
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the Association (PBA)
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has opened seven articles
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for discussion as
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part of negotiations
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for a new
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contract for 2026-2029
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. The negotiations
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were conducted with the participation of myself
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, the city prosecutor,
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and the
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police chief. As
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a result of these
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discussions, the
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city's negotiating team and
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PBA representatives
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reached a preliminary
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agreement on a contract
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that would remain
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in effect without review
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until 2029 unless the
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November
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property tax measure is approved
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. So, we have a
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preliminary agreement for
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three years with a
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provision for
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increased payments.
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If this
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issue passes in November, we
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will be able to open
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negotiations and
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discuss the next
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two years of the agreement.
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If the City Council
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agrees to the
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proposed
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terms, the agreement will be
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submitted to
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Port Richey police officers,
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represented by
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the union, for
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ratification. After
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ratification
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by the union, the contract
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will be presented to
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the city council for
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final
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approval. So, I
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can go through
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specific articles
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if you want me to
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point out the changes. Um,
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yes,
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please do that
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. Give me a
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minute.
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So, let's start with
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article one, the
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preamble, we're
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actually just
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changing a few words here. There's nothing there
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that would actually
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affect the
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contract one way or the
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other. It's just that the PBA
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noticed that it
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said "Hillsboro County
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Police
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Benevolent Association
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" and they
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wanted to remove it.
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So, this is article one.
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Was this in our contract all this time
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?
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Yes. And they just,
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they noticed it.
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So, uh, same thing with
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article six,
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basically wording changes.
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Um, they removed
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Hillsborough County,
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maybe that's what they were
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known by
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. I actually, I do
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n't, I don't remember if
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we asked about it or
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not. Were they, were
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they known as the
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Hillsborough County Association? That
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has changed, or that's what they
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used to
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be called. Good.
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So, it wasn't
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always like this.
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Official documents
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change. It was
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n't that long ago. So
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maybe this is the first
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time they've had the
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opportunity to
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do this. Article 10 is
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essentially their, uh,
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complaints procedures, and there were
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a few, uh,
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crossed out words that
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they pointed
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out, uh, that we
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completely agreed with. Um
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, the main addition
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starts, uh, on
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line 96, where, uh, during
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discussions with the
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city attorney, uh
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, and our
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arbitration procedure is much more
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efficient than what
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was before. Um, as
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you can see, what was
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crossed out, there was
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just, you know, there
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wasn't a lot of
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wording regarding, uh, the
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arbitration process.
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So we agreed to
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just spell out everything in
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detail: the number of
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arbitrators who should
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be present, uh, where
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it would take place, uh
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, what the
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city would be responsible for, what
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the union would be responsible for, and
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basically all of it is
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clearly spelled out.
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Now, and this also
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continues in
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line 109. What was the
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justification for changing the
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deadline from 5 to 10 and from 10
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to 15 days?
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This is for appeal,
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right?
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Yes. Um,
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just give me more
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time to write
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the appeal.
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Yeah, we just, we
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just gave them more
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time, you know,
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weekdays, weekends, stuff like that
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. So we just
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extended the deadline, and
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we both agreed
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that it was better to provide
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more time, uh, for
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both parties. And that was the
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main section,
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really everything else—
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it's just, uh, simple
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word substitutions or something
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like that that just
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caught my eye. It was
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Article 10. Uh, Article 14
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, which deals with
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the workweek and
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overtime, uh,
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just, essentially, uh,
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there were just some changes to
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the numbers, uh, actually,
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to write the number in
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words. Um,
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write this down. Uh,
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word changes, uh,
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you know, minimum 48
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hours, like in line 21,
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just to put
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it in words. Uh, 28. So there
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really wasn't
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any difference there. um,
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scrolling down the
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text, and the same thing as
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we get to
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the end of this article,
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just writing the number in
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words. So, there
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really
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weren't any significant
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changes to this article.
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It looks like they shortened, uh,
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chapter six.
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Instead of eight hours of
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compensatory time,
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they get
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four, and instead of 28
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days for each, it's
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now 14, right?
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What is my number?
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Uh, that's 142. Yeah, we
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went from 8 to 4, and
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then from 28 to 14.
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Vacation and
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sick leave. Article 16.
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Uh, the same, uh, as in
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lines 13, 32, 34, just the
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wording was actually written out. Uh,
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one specific
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addition, uh, in
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lines 35 through 36—it's
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just during the
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second pay
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period in October. Uh,
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previously, it did
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n't seem to specify a
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specific time of
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year, but we wanted to
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make sure it was
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done at the beginning of the
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fiscal year. So
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, since October
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is our fiscal year
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, we extended this to the
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second pay
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period. Uh, so
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they don't
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expect it in the
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very first
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payment period of the
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fiscal year. That
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gives us that month
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to actually
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pay off any,
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you know, time or anything
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like that that we have to
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do. So it was
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just an addition.
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Uh, line 78—it's
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just added
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wording about,
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you know, a death in the
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family. Uh, lines 64-65
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— they just wrote
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the numbers in words. Uh, and
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lines 79 through 81 are
[8:27]
simply a strikethrough with
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the addition of
[8:29]
wording about
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organizing and
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attending a
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funeral for
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family events. Uh-huh.
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We were discussing,
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you know, just
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situations where someone
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dies and you can't
[8:43]
, you know, we can't
[8:45]
attend the event immediately.
[8:48]
Usually, a funeral
[8:49]
is not organized
[8:50]
in a few days. Sometimes
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it will be out of
[8:52]
state or city. So
[8:54]
we actually agreed on
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their, uh, allowed
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time, but they don't
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have to take
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it immediately, on the day,
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you know, or the
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day after
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someone dies. We
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can, if, you know,
[9:04]
agreements
[9:05]
are reached, for example,
[9:06]
next week
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or something, that's when it
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will start. And
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lines 93 through 99 were
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added. Uh-huh. Just
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clarifying, uh,
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maybe paid
[9:24]
compensatory time
[9:25]
instead of
[9:26]
overtime.
[9:28]
It used to be very
[9:29]
blurry. So the union and I
[9:32]
agreed to write down
[9:33]
specific
[9:34]
wording for
[9:35]
this process, and
[9:36]
now that it's there, you
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know, it's here.
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Does this, uh, repeat
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what, uh, non-
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union
[9:45]
employees have
[9:46]
regarding, uh,
[9:48]
bereavement leave? Is
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it significantly
[9:54]
different?
[9:56]
Um, let me
[9:57]
take a look at these
[9:58]
wordings.
[10:00]
Most of these
[10:01]
formulations, um,
[10:02]
you know, refer to
[10:03]
family members. It's all pretty much the same thing
[10:04]
,
[10:06]
yes, one day for
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everyone. I'm just
[10:10]
wondering if the staff
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had it too or if it
[10:13]
was just for the PBA.
[10:17]
Um, I believe the
[10:19]
staff has
[10:19]
at least three non-
[10:20]
contractual days. So
[10:27]
but, of course, if they
[10:28]
need to use the
[10:29]
time, they have time off,
[10:30]
they have
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compensatory time,
[10:32]
you know, personal time
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, if they need it.
[10:34]
So, the union
[10:35]
only asked to, you know,
[10:36]
keep the same
[10:37]
editorial as before.
[10:54]
Article 19, which is
[10:55]
included, um, in this
[10:56]
document because I
[10:57]
didn't highlight it separately, is
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essentially just a
[11:00]
mimic of what we
[11:01]
had to go back to
[11:02]
, um, the city manager had
[11:04]
previously added Emancipation Day
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, which
[11:07]
wasn't in the manual. Um,
[11:11]
so we agreed on
[11:13]
this when Liberation Day happened
[11:14]
this
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year, but since we
[11:16]
were negotiating
[11:17]
this in the middle of the year,
[11:18]
the union wanted to
[11:19]
bring the article back to
[11:21]
essentially bring the
[11:22]
holidays into
[11:23]
line with the
[11:24]
manual. So, um, I'm
[11:27]
trying to work
[11:28]
with the city attorney and,
[11:29]
um, personnel to
[11:30]
put together a new
[11:32]
personnel handbook
[11:33]
that would move us
[11:34]
to the federal
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calendar. It's just
[11:37]
because, you know, I
[11:38]
agreed to some extent with my
[11:40]
predecessors that, um,
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they all noticed that,
[11:42]
you know, Newport County
[11:44]
-Mitchie, a lot of
[11:45]
our other institutions—they all
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follow the
[11:47]
federal
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calendar. We have
[11:49]
some holidays that aren't,
[11:50]
um, you know, like the day
[11:52]
after Thanksgiving,
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technically not a holiday.
[11:54]
It's just, you know, you
[11:55]
just do it on a 40-
[11:56]
hour weekend,
[11:57]
and it's right after
[11:58]
that. So
[11:59]
it's usually there. Um, here
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Good Friday is a
[12:02]
holiday that has always
[12:03]
been in the personnel
[12:04]
handbook, but it is not a
[12:05]
federal holiday.
[12:07]
So, moving
[12:07]
forward, I'm trying to,
[12:08]
you know, work out a
[12:09]
federal calendar
[12:10]
, but I'll have to
[12:11]
present that to
[12:12]
the union when it's
[12:13]
ready. But
[12:14]
now we're just
[12:15]
back to what we
[12:16]
have in the current
[12:17]
personnel handbook.
[12:33]
Article 20 essentially
[12:34]
covers
[12:35]
wages for both, um,
[12:37]
officers and
[12:38]
dispatchers. So, for the
[12:42]
first year, um, for the
[12:44]
first year of
[12:45]
the raise, we
[12:46]
agreed on a
[12:47]
3.7% increase for
[12:49]
officers and a 3% increase for, um
[12:50]
, dispatchers. Um, this is
[12:54]
all within your
[12:56]
budget that you
[12:57]
just approved. Um,
[13:00]
this was discussed
[13:01]
during the negotiations
[13:02]
between me and the
[13:03]
union. Um, we, I
[13:04]
mean, the city
[13:05]
attorney and the
[13:06]
police chief, you know, we both
[13:08]
discussed it back and forth
[13:09]
. Um, and we got
[13:11]
to this, um, we
[13:12]
got to these
[13:12]
negotiations. Ahem. I
[13:16]
think this is another step
[13:18]
in what we're doing with the
[13:19]
police
[13:20]
department. So,
[13:21]
this is where we
[13:23]
are now.
[13:25]
is that... is that 3%-- is
[13:29]
that a straight
[13:30]
3% hourly increase, because I
[13:32]
just did a quick
[13:33]
calculation, taking
[13:34]
23.22, which was the first
[13:36]
increment of the hourly
[13:37]
rate on October 1,
[13:39]
2025. With a
[13:42]
3% increase, it should be
[13:45]
23.9166 or 23.92, but here it is 24.07.
[13:54]
Maybe this refers to the
[13:55]
annual amount?
[13:56]
You start from the number
[13:58]
23.22.
[13:59]
Yes. Let me take a
[14:00]
quick look at the
[14:01]
annual amount.
[14:10]
Yes, it's not 3%, it's more
[14:12]
. It
[14:12]
should be 3.7%.
[14:14]
Oh, 3.7%.
[14:16]
Yes, 3.7% for officers
[14:18]
for the first year.
[14:19]
Good. So, for the
[14:20]
first stage, for the
[14:22]
first year, for
[14:23]
2026, it will be 3.7%, and for the
[14:25]
next two years of
[14:26]
this contract—3%.
[14:29]
So, these 3.7% bring the
[14:31]
first degree to a
[14:32]
salary level of
[14:34]
$50,000. Um,
[14:37]
the union originally
[14:38]
wanted a lot
[14:39]
more, but this is what
[14:41]
we came to as a
[14:42]
result of
[14:43]
negotiations, and for the
[14:44]
next two years, the 27th
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and the 28th, it's just 3%.
[14:49]
Now, if the
[14:50]
November
[14:51]
vote is
[14:52]
successful, then 2027 and 2028
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will be
[14:55]
put on hold until we can come to an
[14:56]
agreement on
[14:58]
those two years.
[15:18]
Of course, Article 27
[15:19]
only concerns
[15:21]
the duration and
[15:22]
termination of this
[15:24]
particular
[15:25]
contract, changing
[15:27]
it from 2026 to 2029. Um
[15:30]
, but lines 17-22
[15:32]
basically describe...
[15:42]
We both
[15:43]
agreed on
[15:44]
the wording that
[15:45]
in the event that we
[15:46]
need to...
[15:50]
revise the agreement
[15:51]
or in the event that
[15:53]
any disputes arise
[15:54]
or anything like that,
[15:55]
we both agreed on that
[15:57]
wording in
[15:58]
lines 19-22.
[16:11]
Where exactly is it written down that what
[16:12]
will happen in
[16:13]
November?
[16:16]
Go back,
[16:17]
I'm sorry,
[16:18]
go back to
[16:19]
article 20.
[16:21]
And then on the last
[16:23]
page, lines 122-129.
[16:31]
Good. So, as I
[16:52]
said, Nancy Meyer,
[16:53]
Rob Ashenfelder, myself, and the
[16:54]
police chief—
[16:55]
we all agree that these are
[16:57]
acceptable terms for
[16:59]
moving forward. As I
[17:01]
said, this is within
[17:02]
our budget
[17:03]
parameters. Um,
[17:05]
you know,
[17:06]
it was mostly changes. Um, the
[17:09]
raise negotiations were all within the
[17:11]
planned range. So,
[17:13]
if you don't have
[17:14]
any specific
[17:16]
questions, I've included the entire
[17:17]
agreement as an attachment
[17:18]
in case you wanted to
[17:19]
discuss anything else,
[17:20]
but none of those
[17:21]
articles will change.
[17:24]
The ones I read to
[17:25]
you tonight are the
[17:27]
only ones that will
[17:28]
change. Have a question?
[17:42]
Tom? That was good.
[17:49]
Just wanted to be
[17:50]
aware.
[17:56]
Good. So, do
[17:57]
we need
[17:58]
a vote of
[17:59]
approval?
[17:59]
This is a working meeting. This
[18:01]
issue will return to the
[18:03]
agenda for formal approval in
[18:04]
the near future. Yes
[18:05]
, they will have a
[18:06]
vote on
[18:07]
ratification by
[18:08]
officials.
[18:09]
If it passes, we
[18:11]
will prepare a final
[18:12]
agreement and present
[18:13]
it to the council at the
[18:15]
September meeting. I hope
[18:16]
we can
[18:17]
wrap this up by the end of
[18:18]
this month, and it
[18:19]
will be a closed
[18:20]
session.
[18:21]
No.
[18:21]
So there is no
[18:23]
closed session,
[18:25]
since the agreements
[18:26]
have been signed, even if they are
[18:27]
preliminary.
[18:28]
Good. So,
[18:29]
this never happens to us
[18:30]
. No. Of course. I
[18:31]
spoke to both
[18:32]
attorneys about this
[18:33]
, and we could, you
[18:35]
know, we probably should have
[18:36]
held a
[18:37]
closed session.
[18:41]
But the fact that we
[18:42]
have a preliminary
[18:43]
agreement means that
[18:44]
if you disagree with something
[18:45]
now, I
[18:46]
can still go back to
[18:48]
negotiations, but we have
[18:49]
almost everything
[18:50]
agreed. But they have
[18:54]
n't held a
[18:55]
vote on
[18:56]
ratification or anything yet
[18:57]
. So if we
[18:58]
needed to
[19:00]
discuss something, I could
[19:01]
notify
[19:01]
the union and do
[19:03]
it. But it was the
[19:05]
lawyer's suggestion
[19:06]
to hold it as a
[19:07]
working meeting or
[19:08]
closed session.
[19:10]
I think last time
[19:11]
we held a closed
[19:12]
meeting because the issue
[19:14]
was controversial and not
[19:15]
agreed upon.
[19:15]
Right.
[19:16]
I think there
[19:18]
was more
[19:19]
debate last time. Yes. We could
[19:21]
do the same this
[19:22]
time. But again
[19:24]
, since many of
[19:26]
the changes concerned
[19:27]
wording, not
[19:28]
substance. I thought this was the
[19:32]
best way to
[19:33]
move forward.
[19:36]
Good. I mean,
[19:37]
just my thoughts for the
[19:38]
future. Um, I think
[19:40]
that before—I mean,
[19:41]
of course,
[19:42]
if an agreement is reached,
[19:44]
that's great, but I
[19:45]
think that before we
[19:46]
, the city side,
[19:47]
agree, it should
[19:48]
go back to the council
[19:50]
in closed session
[19:51]
so we can
[19:52]
discuss it and
[19:53]
make sure, because right
[19:54]
now we... if we
[19:55]
want to open up
[19:56]
or discuss something, it's in
[19:58]
public, and we can't have
[19:59]
those
[20:00]
discussions. So I
[20:01]
think in
[20:02]
the future, if we
[20:03]
do
[20:03]
contracts, we should
[20:04]
have closed
[20:05]
meetings where before the
[20:06]
city... I mean,
[20:07]
you could
[20:07]
work together
[20:08]
to prepare something,
[20:09]
but I think it
[20:09]
should go back to the
[20:10]
council so we can have
[20:11]
our say
[20:12]
before it's
[20:13]
finally agreed to, those are
[20:13]
my thoughts.
[20:14]
And we could
[20:15]
do it. It's just, um,
[20:16]
as I've said in my
[20:18]
discussions with Nancy
[20:19]
and Rob...in their
[20:22]
opinion, since I'm essentially the
[20:25]
negotiating representative,
[20:26]
and I signed the
[20:27]
preliminary agreements that
[20:29]
I submitted there. Um, like I
[20:30]
said, they're still
[20:31]
preliminary. So
[20:33]
if there's anything we
[20:34]
should bring back for
[20:35]
discussion, we
[20:36]
can.
[20:36]
Um, but in their opinion,
[20:38]
it was just...
[20:39]
not to hold a closed
[20:40]
session, but to just
[20:41]
hold it as a
[20:42]
working session. So that's why
[20:43]
we're here tonight
[20:44]
.
[20:45]
And it works both
[20:46]
ways. As a council, we
[20:47]
say we want
[20:48]
more than 3%, right? Or
[20:49]
we may want to...
[20:50]
So I think it's
[20:51]
good practice
[20:51]
because we have the
[20:52]
appropriate
[20:53]
authority
[20:53]
to hold these sessions,
[20:54]
and we should
[20:55]
take advantage of this
[20:56]
discussion because
[20:56]
it's part of the
[20:57]
discussion, I think.
[20:58]
Yes. Longevity bonus
[21:00]
, how long has it
[21:01]
existed in this
[21:01]
form? And was
[21:02]
this discussed?
[21:03]
This was not discussed.
[21:04]
This was already in
[21:05]
the contracts before. Um
[21:06]
, and they didn't ask for
[21:07]
any changes.
[21:08]
They didn't...they didn't
[21:09]
want any changes.
[21:10]
Yes.
[21:11]
And actually, we just
[21:12]
performed it for
[21:13]
Sergeant S.
[21:14]
Sergeant Cox. He has been with
[21:16]
us for 15 years.
[21:18]
So, are there any more questions?
[21:23]
Good. If not, then I'll move on
[21:24]
. Are there any
[21:25]
comments from the
[21:26]
public? I don't
[21:27]
see it, then I'll move on to
[21:28]
the comments from the mayor and
[21:29]
city council. Uh,
[21:30]
let's start with Councilman
[21:31]
Burke. That is, with Councilwoman
[21:32]
Burke.
[21:34]
Let's go back to the
[21:35]
council member. I got it all
[21:36]
mixed up again. I will do
[21:38]
everything right. I'll
[21:39]
talk to the
[21:40]
council member.
[21:41]
Now, I wish
[21:42]
we could pay them
[21:44]
more.
[21:44]
Yes, I hope
[21:45]
we can someday.
[21:46]
Me too. I wish
[21:47]
we could pay them
[21:48]
more, but, uh,
[21:49]
nothing more.
[21:50]
Good. Vice Mayor,
[21:51]
I just want to say
[21:52]
that they are doing a great
[21:53]
job in their
[21:54]
city. The police are
[21:55]
constantly everywhere, and you
[21:56]
see them. They are
[21:57]
present. Cars on
[21:58]
the streets, just
[21:59]
great work.
[22:00]
Okay, Card.
[22:04]
No, it's just that the seniority bonus
[22:06]
seems too small, but
[22:08]
they didn't ask for it
[22:09]
and no, they're
[22:11]
doing a great
[22:12]
job. They
[22:13]
deserve the
[22:14]
best too. They
[22:15]
do a great
[22:16]
job. What is, is what is.
[22:19]
Gladly. Yes, and that's an apt
[22:23]
observation, since
[22:24]
we've worked it out. It would be
[22:25]
good
[22:26]
to meet as a council in
[22:27]
closed session
[22:28]
to be able to
[22:29]
discuss things. So
[22:30]
I definitely think that
[22:31]
depending on what
[22:32]
happens in
[22:32]
November, let's
[22:33]
make sure that we
[22:35]
all have a say on
[22:35]
this so that we
[22:37]
can
[22:37]
I think, uh, then in
[22:38]
November we'll
[22:39]
keep an eye on it, and if
[22:40]
we have to
[22:41]
reopen the contract
[22:42]
, we can as well
[22:43]
, and the thing is,
[22:44]
the review doesn't
[22:45]
necessarily
[22:46]
just have to be about
[22:47]
salaries. We can
[22:48]
review
[22:49]
almost anything.
[22:50]
So I'll do this, and this will
[22:51]
become our
[22:52]
practice, I'll just
[22:53]
call a closed
[22:54]
session right away.
[22:56]
That way, since
[22:57]
the contract is in front of us,
[22:58]
we can discuss
[22:59]
anything we
[23:00]
want to move forward on.
[23:02]
So, and then
[23:02]
move on from this
[23:03]
point. So before
[23:04]
I sit down with them
[23:05]
at the negotiating table,
[23:06]
we will first
[23:07]
hold a closed
[23:08]
meeting.
[23:08]
And you guys did a
[23:09]
great job. So don't
[23:11]
get this
[23:11]
wrong. As I
[23:13]
said, you know, I think
[23:15]
that myself, the chief, and our
[23:16]
city lawyers—they all
[23:17]
did a great
[23:19]
job. The union
[23:22]
was very open
[23:23]
to our proposals,
[23:24]
and we were very open to theirs. So I
[23:27]
think we were able to
[23:29]
negotiate a good
[23:30]
contract and move
[23:31]
on. So,
[23:35]
I guess the
[23:37]
fire department salary structure and so on
[23:39]
also need to be
[23:40]
reviewed. It would be possible to
[23:41]
do both
[23:43]
things at the same time
[23:43]
next year.
[23:46]
Well, actually, I'm
[23:47]
in the process of working with
[23:48]
our new HR
[23:49]
person right now, we're going to
[23:50]
look at
[23:51]
doing a new
[23:53]
salary survey,
[23:54]
because the last
[23:55]
survey we
[23:56]
did was four or
[23:57]
five years ago, so it's
[23:58]
time to do a new one. And,
[24:00]
of course, I will
[24:01]
coordinate with
[24:02]
all
[24:02]
employees to move forward
[24:04]
with this
[24:05]
issue. So, um, that's what
[24:06]
I told her
[24:08]
as soon as she came in,
[24:09]
actually, what I
[24:10]
recommended doing
[24:12]
. Um, but of course, Gee,
[24:14]
given our
[24:15]
scale, given
[24:17]
our situation, um,
[24:18]
of course,
[24:19]
we're going to have to
[24:20]
make some serious
[24:22]
decisions in November if this
[24:23]
goes through. But, um,
[24:24]
regardless,
[24:25]
if we can
[24:27]
do it, we'll
[24:27]
do it. Good.
[24:30]
OK. Nothing more
[24:32]
. So I make a
[24:32]
suggestion.
[24:34]
Motion to
[24:35]
close the meeting. I
[24:36]
support.
[24:37]
The offer is accepted.
[24:38]
Second proposal. Those who are
[24:40]
"in favor", please say "
[24:41]
yes". Yes. Yes. Yes. You.