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We will now stand and be led in the Pledge of Allegiance
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by commission, president Jim Moran,
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Pledge of Allegiance to testify
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the United States of America to the Republic
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for which stands, one Nation under God, indivisible
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with Liberty Justice for All.
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Can you please remain standing for a moment of silence
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for the passing of Wayne Humphreys?
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Thank you.
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All right, commissioners, we can move
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to approve this morning's agenda.
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So the agenda for our meeting today, July 14th, along
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with the regular session minutes,
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the sanitary commission minutes
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and the closed session minutes from the June 30th meeting
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have been circulated for review.
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Any additions, changes, corrections?
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Nope. Motion to approve the agenda as submitted
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and the minutes as submitted.
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Second, We have a motion
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to second any further discussion?
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Seeing none. All those in favor signify the saying Aye.
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Aye. Opposed? Alright, thank you commissioners.
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So we just held a closed session under the general
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provisions article sections 3, 3 0 5 B one for personnel,
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section 3, 3 0 5 B seven to consult with counsel
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and section 3 3 0 5 B three for land acquisition.
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I do believe we have one government services contract motion
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for for the personnel matter.
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I move to approve the government relations contract
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with Bruce Ano for FFY 2027.
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Second. Motion to second. Any discussion on this topic?
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See none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye.
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Opposed? All right, thank you commissioners.
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That brings us to press and public comment.
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So we appreciate all citizens for taking time
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to express views to the county commissioners.
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Comments are limited to three minutes per person
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comments longer than three
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minutes can be submitted in writing.
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This commission respects your desire
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and right to convey your message freely.
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When you come forward, please speak clearly at the standing
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microphone states, your name, your address,
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and your topic of interest.
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And in keeping with the dignity of our office, we ask
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that all views be expressed in a
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respectful and civil manner.
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We have, first on the list is Loring Mills.
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Good morning commissioners. Good morning. Morning.
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Morning. My interest is in traffic safety question.
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My name is Loring Mills.
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I live at 2 32 Topside Drive in Stevensville.
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A decision was made by the planning commission last Thursday
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to provide major site plan approval
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for a manufacturing facility adjacent to target traffic,
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routing and accessibility was considered,
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but traffic safety for that particular activity
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was not properly addressed.
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The proposed facility is for a good company,
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it's a great company, it's a great asset
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for Queen Anne's County, the tech ops safety
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specialty vehicles and that the county should support
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whatever they can to help this company.
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They provide items for security at national events.
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My concern is the traffic consideration of that entrance
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to the facility that was being considered.
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The proposed entrance to the FI is on a sharp curve
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of the Thompson Creek Road within 200 feet
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of the MA most complex intersection we have on Ken Island.
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That's where Route eight inter is interchanges with
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Thompson Creek Road and Pier One Road.
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That intersection is well documented
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as a problem intersection In fact,
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traffic backs up beyond where that proposed entrance is
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to the facility for each one of the red lights.
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Not every red light, but every few minutes a red light
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back up occurs there.
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And my concern is basically
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how the heck are you gonna handle all the traffic on that
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area and the aggravated aspects of that entrance
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to that important intersection.
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As you review the project, I review, IE urge the commission
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to require an independent TRA traffic safety evaluation.
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How does that impact the traffic there on that route eight
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at that intersection?
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That's very close. It's a lifeline.
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It's a lifeline for a large part of the county
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and a lot of business and activity there.
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I just thank you for consideration of that safety effect.
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I would like to offer my comments that I
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provided to the planning committee
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as thank
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You.
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Thank you.
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All righty. Jay Stead.
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Good morning commissioners.
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Jay Fag, queen and Conservation Association.
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Thank you for the opportunity to speak
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and thank you for having the morning meeting.
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It's kind of nice to see daylight outside.
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I just wanna make a comment one on 26 0 5,
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but two on these text amendments generally
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because I've been following this stuff for a long time
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and it seems like these text amendments are now getting
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to a point where they're getting outta control.
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And so anybody is entitled
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to submit a text amendment in February.
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More often than not, these things are coming forward for
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a single landowner to try
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and correct something either based on a bad investment
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or a misunderstanding
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or something related to their their property.
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The problem is they're not taking into account the broader
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impacts to the county
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and legis legislation is supposed to work countywide.
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And so what happens is some
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eager attorney will come forward with a text amendment,
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push it forward force staff to do a review,
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force your attorney to do a review,
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force my attorney to do a review.
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And oftentimes they end up failing.
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And so I hope at some point we can take a look at text
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amendments generally with the aim
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of hopefully doing away with them.
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I have to say in my 20 plus years, I've never once
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put forth a single text amendment.
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And there's a reason because I try
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and work through the commissioners,
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bring forward a legislative idea,
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let it go through the process.
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This text amendment process I think is just
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wr wrought with problems.
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That brings me to 26 0 5.
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I testified last time on it, this particular text amendment
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and this particular parcel of land.
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In short, in my view, the landowner bought a lemon
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and now he's coming to you to try and rescue his investment.
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At no point during his proposal
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has he done any other traffic
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studies anywhere else in the county.
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There's been nothing to look at any
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of the other intersections
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where this text amendment would apply.
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Your highest order
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as a county commissioner is public safety.
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By allowing what he wants to do at that intersection
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undermines your ultimate responsibility
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for public health, safety and welfare.
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I submitted a paper to Todd, Mr. Mon just a moment ago.
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I also submitted to you by email yesterday, I believe
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that text amendment 26 0 5 is legally vulnerable,
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but for a whole host
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of other reasons which are articulated in this paper,
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I hope you'll find a way to reject this outright.
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You have plenty of reasons to reject it.
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The Planning commission said no.
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The Economic Development Commission said no.
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The Board of Appeals said no
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and your public works department has said no.
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That should be plenty of reason.
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Enough to just say no to 26 0 5. Thank you.
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Thank you. Alright, Brenda Malaney,
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I'm the eager attorney.
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I believe so.
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I I represent the two first text
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amendments that are on your agenda today.
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And would just like to recognize that the, you know, the law
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and the process do allow citizens
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to bring these text amendments forward to resolve issues.
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The text amendments are there, whether you bring them
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or a citizen or a business owner
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or a property owner brings them to address specific issues.
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That's why the mechanism exists.
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The county has a short window where they can be submitted
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and you know, we've, we've submitted in that window
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to address an issue
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that we believe results in a better situation for the county
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supports business in the county
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and would allow a reasonable review by the Board of Appeals
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as we've proposed to modify the text amendment,
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would allow a reasonable review by the Board of Appeals
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through the conditional use process to ensure
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that there are not significant adverse impacts created
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at a subject location.
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Recognizing that this change is requested to be countywide.
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We do believe that it is reasonable.
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I do want to point out that there's a lot of, you know,
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there's some dialogue on social media on both sides
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of this discussion related to the 3 0 1 intersection
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that is adjacent to this applicant
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who brought forward the citizen led
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text amendments property.
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That intersection is well over 100 feet from this property
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so that that intersection is not at conflict with the law
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as it currently exists.
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There's a dirt road intersection between that intersection
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and this subject property.
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I don't believe that there are traffic concerns
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or safety concerns related to
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that intersection within a hundred feet.
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But the intersection that I think is causing some
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of this consternation and dialogue is well over 100 feet
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away from the entrance to this specific property here
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to answer any questions on behalf of either
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of these applicants for these citizen led text amendments.
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But just wanted to note that. Thank you
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Laura Davis.
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Morning everyone. Laura Davis Churchill, Maryland.
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I'm a lifelong resident of Quin Annes County.
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Grew up in Sellersville.
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My husband and I have been in Churchill
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for the last 10 years and I use the 3 0 1 4 0 5
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intersection every day.
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I used it on the way here. I will soon have children
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traveling that intersection
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potentially multiple times a day.
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I drafted an email, I sent it this morning.
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So a little tardy on my part.
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But I do want to express my feelings about
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the text amendment change that's being proposed
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for Ordinance 26 0 5.
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I urge you to vote no.
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As someone who has advocated to improve the safety
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of the intersection at 3 0 1
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and 4 0 5 for years, I find it deeply troubling
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that the county is even considering reducing requirements
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required setbacks for gas station entrances
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and exits from a hundred feet to 75 feet.
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The intersection is already one of the most dangerous
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and frustrating in our county.
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As you all are aware, every day residents have
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to navigate high speeds higher than ever.
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I would argue heavy traffic more than ever,
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I would argue right Since the Delaware
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Middletown bypass has been put in place,
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limited opportunities to turn on the highway
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and near misses that have become all too common.
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The solution should be finding ways
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to make this intersection safer,
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not weakening the very standards that were put into place
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to protect the traveling public.
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What is especially concerning is
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that the professionals charged
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with evaluating these issues have already spoken.
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The Department of Public Works recommended against the
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amendment planning staff recommended an
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unfavorable recommendation.
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The Economic Development Commission also opposed the
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amendment because of traffic safety concerns.
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When multiple independent county departments reach the same
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conclusion, that should carry significant
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weight in your decision making.
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This ordinance is not simply about one of a parcel of land.
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If adopted, it will establish a countywide precedent
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by reducing safety standards
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for future developments across Queen Anns County.
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A place we all know and love our community has been asking
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for improvements to this 3 0 1 4 0 5 intersection for years.
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We need to be meaningful.
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We need to put meaningful investment in traffic safety,
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better traffic flow,
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and long-term solutions, not regulatory changes
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that could increase the number of vehicle
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conflict points at an already difficult intersection.
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If this ordinance is approved
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and development proceeds under reduc, I'm sorry,
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reduced safety standards, I fear it will only be a matter
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of time before a serious tragedy occurs.
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Many of which have already occurred As it stands.
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I sincerely hope we never reach a day when everyone looks
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back and wonders why the warnings from the county staff,
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public safety advocates and concerned citizens were ignored.
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Please put public safety ahead of convenience
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and development pressure.
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The residents who travel these roads daily deserve
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leadership that prioritizes protecting lives
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over lowering established safety standards.
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I respect each of you and I ask you to vote no
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to Ordinance 26 0 5.
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Thank you. Thank you, thank
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You, thank you.
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That's all we had signed up.
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Would anybody else like to speak at this time?
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Name and address.
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Yes, Joe Ano lived here my whole life.
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Senator Rome, Maryland, the owner
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of Property and Price Station.
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One thing I just wanna make clear is
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that the intersection 3 0 3 0 1
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and four five is not the intersection that is applicable to
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what we're trying to change here it is the Dirt Road,
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Carville Price Road, which is within a hundred,
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not the not the highway intersection.
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Highway intersection I know is an issue.
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Every highway intersection on 3 0 1 is be is an issue.
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I'm in full support of trying to find a solution
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to make all those intersections safer.
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We've recently received a letter from State Highway.
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I know you guys have sent them letters to make 'em safer.
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We received a letter from them.
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They're gonna use our property to help
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with their traffic studies to, to try to find a solution.
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We're in full support of that.
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But those intersections are not, don't, don't really relate
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to what we're trying to do with this project.
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This project here we are trying to help the commu,
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it's a commercial property.
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You know, it's been sitting there vacant for years.
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The community out there wants something.
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They've, we've for four years we've
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been trying to figure out what to do.
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They've come to us. They want gas, they want a gas station.
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You know, there's no gas station along 3 0 1
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for 30 mile stretch.
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You know, there's no place to get fuel.
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They have to go to Churchill, they have to go
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to Centerville, they have to go to Delaware.
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We're trying to help the
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community here, the community there.
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This is what they want. So I hope
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we can find a way to make it happen.
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Would anybody else like to speak?
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We also have a couple people on Zoom
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and if you are in Zoom
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and wanna make public comment, could you please either use
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the raise your hand feature
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or answer the the chat that we have.
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This email comes from Claudia Jewel.
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As a lifetime resident of Ken Island
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and a resident of Marlin Farms for 62 years,
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I strongly request that commissioners
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and the Department of Public works prioritize the extension
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of the sewer system to Marlin Farms and Dominion.
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Rising water levels and aging STIC systems pose a genuine
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concern for homeowners and for the environment.
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Every waterfront home with the septic system is a time bomb
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for failure and our precious rivers will be the victims.
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Planning for extension of the 5 5 2
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system need to be started.
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ASAP as far as future allocations, quarterly review
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and approval appears to be the better plan.
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Thank you for your consideration. That's all I have.
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We better wave than I? No, I think we're good to deal.
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Alright, we're gonna go ahead and close.
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Press on public comment.
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Alright commissioners, we can move into the legislation
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we have this evening, or excuse me this morning.
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Tab number seven, item one, page one,
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county ordinance 26 0 5
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supplemental standards for gas stations.
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This is available for a vote.
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This is supplemental standards for gas stations
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to include fuel pumps, underground storage, fuel tanks,
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canopies and Queen S County.
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For the purpose of reducing the required distance
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between an exit entrance to a gas station
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to any intersection from 100 to 75 feet.
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I think I, I would like to continue this item
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for an additional two weeks so we can consider an
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amendment to the ordinance.
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So we're gonna hold that.
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Okay. Alright.
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Item number two, county ordinance 26 0 6.
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This is for the maximum impervious surface ratio
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for commercial and industrial uses in the suburban
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commercial district that we're operating prior to
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December 31st, 2025.
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And this would increase that impervious percentage coverage
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from 45% to 80%.
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And also I would also like to continue this item
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for an additional two weeks so we can consider an
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amendment to the ordinance.
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So we're gonna hold these two in two weeks, come back with a
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possible amendment and move forward from there.
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Okay?
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Alright. Thank you Mr. President.
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Item number three is the amendment
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to county ordinance 26 0 9 for
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transferable development rights.
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This can be introduced
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and forwarded to the planning commission for review
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and recommendation if you so choose.
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This would further restrict the allowable uses in open
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space, which have been administratively subdivided under
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other provisions of the legislation.
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I'll introduce the amendment to 26 and nine. Alright.
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Okay, item four is
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likewise an amendment to county ordinance 26 10
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for non-contiguous development.
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Also can be introduced and forward
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to the planning commission for review
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and recommendation similar to the previous ordinance,
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this would further restrict the allowable uses in open
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space, which have been administrative loose subdivided under
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the TD NNCD development districts.
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We'll introduce the amendment to county ordinance
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26 10 as well.
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Okay. Alright. Alright.
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That's all we had on the agenda
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for legislation this morning.
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Okay,
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Next up we have Presentations.
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So item first up we have Ms.
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Melinda Ray, character counts coordinator.
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So Melinda, come on up. Good
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Morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.
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I'm a morning person So this is perfect.
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Alright, so I am here
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to give you guys just an update on character counts
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and where we stand and how our year went in the schools.
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It went really well. I always do surveys with our teachers
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and our students at the end of the year to kind
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of figure out, make sure we're doing what we want to do
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and that we're making the impact we think we're making.
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So I have some stats for you.
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We ask the teachers whether
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or not they felt the school supported character counts
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and they saw it like within their building
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and other places outside of just the coaches coming in.
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95% said that they, they did. So the schools are on board.
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And then we have some great buy-in.
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We've got some great schools and great faculty,
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so I always love working with them.
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93% of our teachers said
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that they welcome the character counts coaches into their
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classrooms, which is is nice.
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And one of the questions I asked both sets teachers
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and students was whether
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or not character counts is making a positive
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impact on their classroom.
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What are the teachers seeing?
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Is this helping the way we think that we're helping
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and 91% of our teachers so
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that they see a positive impact on our,
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on their students from our character counts coaches.
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So that's always exciting.
[20:59]
And then we also pull students, we pull fourth
[21:01]
and fifth graders and some third graders,
[21:03]
but mostly fourth and fifth graders.
[21:05]
And this is always my favorite data
[21:07]
is what the kids are saying.
[21:09]
So 82% of that age group said that they enjoy the classes,
[21:13]
they enjoy the lessons from our coaches.
[21:16]
89% felt that the coach that they had was engaging
[21:19]
and then fun and, and they enjoyed their visits.
[21:22]
And then 72% of the students said
[21:25]
that they saw a positive impact from the te the
[21:27]
coaches in their classroom.
[21:29]
And 72 is obviously lower than 91,
[21:31]
but we're talking about 10, 11 year olds.
[21:32]
So that's a hard audience. So I think 72 is a good number
[21:37]
for them to say that they see a positive impact.
[21:39]
So I thought that that was kind of exciting.
[21:41]
And then I also, we allow our TE teachers
[21:44]
and our students to kind of make comments.
[21:47]
So I wanted to read you some of them.
[21:49]
These are from the teacher survey. I love character counts.
[21:52]
Having a community member teach these lessons
[21:54]
and be one more adult in a child's life who is teaching them
[21:56]
and pulling for them is wonderful.
[21:58]
It truly takes a village, which is one of my favorites.
[22:02]
The year was outstanding best in 11 years.
[22:04]
Coaches were great with kids, consistent and communicative.
[22:08]
These character counts lessons are
[22:10]
so valuable to our students.
[22:11]
Thank you so much for making sure our young students
[22:13]
are exposed to these lessons.
[22:15]
And all of this is obviously
[22:16]
because you guys allow character counts to continue
[22:18]
to run in our county and
[22:20]
because of our partnership with Q-A-C-P-S
[22:23]
and then some students commented too.
[22:24]
So I wanted to read you some things
[22:26]
that come directly from these 10 and 11 year olds.
[22:28]
This hard audience. I really like Character counts.
[22:31]
I think it's fun and interesting.
[22:32]
I hope that character counts stays in my life.
[22:35]
Another said my character counts is so nice.
[22:37]
She's fun and taught me
[22:38]
to care about other people's feelings.
[22:40]
She taught me good character.
[22:42]
Another one said I like that it was fun
[22:44]
and I got to write on paper, not on a computer.
[22:47]
I really like what they do at Character Counts.
[22:49]
I want to thank everybody that works at Character Counts
[22:51]
and helps me learn and have fun.
[22:52]
Thank you for going out of your way to help us.
[22:55]
What age is this? This is 10 and 11 year olds.
[22:58]
Yeah, another said our coach was really fun.
[23:01]
The best character counts teacher ever.
[23:03]
She tells stories that in lessons and she plays game
[23:06]
and she teaches us and the pillars are really the best.
[23:09]
And so these always make me smile.
[23:11]
It's one of my favorite things. I also do focus groups
[23:15]
with outgoing fifth graders who've had character counts now
[23:17]
since kindergarten to get their impact, the good and the bad
[23:21]
and the ugly all in between.
[23:22]
And that went really well. I did that
[23:24]
with all the outgoing fifth grade classes.
[23:26]
We had a small group, about five to 10 students.
[23:29]
I got some really good positive feedback on
[23:31]
where they wanna see the lessons going in
[23:32]
particular, which is exciting.
[23:35]
So I'm working on some new lessons for them.
[23:37]
The other thing that came up in one
[23:39]
of those focus groups was the kids really wanting
[23:43]
to be involved in character counts outside
[23:45]
of just their character counts lessons in their classrooms.
[23:47]
We do have student ambassadors in each building
[23:50]
and those two students in each school get
[23:52]
to do like announcements and special
[23:53]
things for character counts.
[23:55]
But a lot of the fifth graders wanted a bigger role.
[23:58]
And so in speaking with the school counselor at Matt Peak
[24:01]
Elementary, we're gonna do a pilot program this coming year.
[24:03]
We're gonna call it Character in Action,
[24:05]
which is basically going to be a character counts club.
[24:08]
So we're gonna allow kids to kind of join it.
[24:09]
The idea it's, it's kind of being flushed out right now,
[24:11]
but the idea is that these
[24:13]
students would choose a civic activity that they want
[24:16]
to accomplish over the year.
[24:17]
Something that they see that in the community they wanna
[24:19]
make a positive difference in.
[24:21]
And they would work as the leaders of this group to kind
[24:24]
of organize that, figure out an action plan, figure out
[24:27]
what they need and make
[24:28]
that happen over the course of the year.
[24:29]
And then I would support that through kind
[24:31]
of like monthly get togethers.
[24:33]
So we're excited about piloting that at Mad Peak Elementary.
[24:37]
We do have new lessons coming up.
[24:39]
Worked on a whole new series
[24:41]
for our kindergarten first grade group,
[24:43]
which I told you guys about the children's
[24:45]
books we're working on.
[24:46]
Or I'm working on fourth grade lessons right now.
[24:48]
And then I hope to do also a fifth grade kind of revamp on
[24:51]
what they, they do in their, their care accounts lessons.
[24:55]
And then the last thing you mentioned earlier,
[24:57]
we had a moment of silence for Mr.
[24:58]
Humphreys. He was an integral part of character counts
[25:02]
and is a huge loss to me and to this program.
[25:06]
Not to mention the community at large,
[25:08]
but the advisory board for character counts wanted
[25:12]
to do something to honor Wayne's legacy,
[25:15]
specifically with character counts.
[25:17]
And so we will have a committee that will meet in September
[25:20]
and we are going to be working on
[25:21]
what we're gonna call the Wayne Humphrey
[25:23]
Student of Character Award.
[25:25]
So hopefully an outgrowing fifth grader at every elementary
[25:27]
school will be chosen that exemplifies all six
[25:32]
of the pillars the way that Wayne did.
[25:34]
So we're looking forward to honoring him in that way.
[25:37]
And then as always, we're always looking for volunteers.
[25:39]
It is the summer, but I am already
[25:41]
thinking of next school year.
[25:42]
So all of you guys, I've got lots
[25:44]
of openings as of right now.
[25:46]
I'm going to speak to the board of Ed
[25:48]
in next month in August as well.
[25:52]
Businesses of character, if you guys have a business in the
[25:54]
county that wants to join us and kind
[25:56]
of help us promote our mission,
[25:57]
we're always looking for that.
[25:58]
And also advisory members.
[25:59]
I love getting feedback and my advisory council
[26:01]
is a great sounding word for me.
[26:03]
So that's pretty much the update.
[26:05]
I think I covered everything where
[26:07]
We're at.
[26:08]
So I have, not a question but more of a suggestion.
[26:11]
So getting back to that group
[26:12]
that you talked about, a fifth graders.
[26:14]
Yes. This new, what are you calling it again?
[26:16]
We're calling it Char, I'm
[26:17]
gonna call it Character in action. Character
[26:19]
In action.
[26:20]
So just like the club. So I feel
[26:20]
that the transition from fifth grade to middle school,
[26:24]
there's a huge disparity and
[26:29]
and desire to be cool in middle school.
[26:32]
Yeah. And I think that adds pressure to the kids
[26:36]
who have really focused as fifth graders or pre-K
[26:39]
or kindergarten up to fifth grade
[26:41]
and have practiced the six pillars of character
[26:44]
for those five years that they were in elementary school.
[26:47]
And then all of a sudden now they're faced
[26:48]
with a different dynamic.
[26:50]
And I think one of the focuses for this group
[26:52]
that you're talking about is somehow helping them transition
[26:57]
to the middle school level
[26:58]
and understand that the honoring those six
[27:01]
pillars is still important.
[27:03]
I completely agree. And one of the things
[27:05]
that I'm really looking forward to this particular group is
[27:08]
creating it an opportunity for children
[27:09]
to take leadership roles.
[27:11]
Because I think that that establishes self-esteem.
[27:13]
But to your point, when I sat down
[27:15]
with the fifth grade focus groups, one of the things
[27:18]
that came up and which is, which is why I wanna revamp kind
[27:20]
of our fifth grade lessons, is
[27:22]
that the fifth graders were very eager to kind
[27:25]
of flip the pillars a little bit.
[27:26]
In fifth grade. They said, you know, kindergarten
[27:28]
through fourth grade and currently through fifth grade,
[27:31]
the pillars are always about what you can do for others.
[27:33]
How can you be kind? How can you be a trustworthy person?
[27:36]
How can you show respect and all of those things.
[27:38]
So the fifth graders were like, you know,
[27:40]
we really need lessons on how to have self-respect, how
[27:44]
to be responsible to ourselves, how to be true
[27:46]
to ourselves, those type of things.
[27:48]
So the lessons are gonna kind of flip a little bit.
[27:50]
And so we're gonna be more reflective
[27:51]
and self self-focused in fifth grade is
[27:53]
what I'm looking forward to doing.
[27:56]
But I'm a former fifth grade teacher,
[27:57]
so I know exactly what you're talking about.
[27:59]
And it doesn't necessarily start when they hit sixth grade.
[28:03]
It's usually about January
[28:04]
of fifth grade when they come back from their holiday break,
[28:07]
something has flipped in these fifth graders
[28:09]
and it's, they're completely different students. And
[28:11]
The desire to be cool
[28:12]
and accepted at the middle school level.
[28:14]
Yes. And sacrificing some of those, those characters
[28:18]
that they haven't exhibited all those years thinking I gotta
[28:21]
ditch 'em because I'm now in middle school. And
[28:24]
Middle school is a huge age
[28:25]
of transition for these students.
[28:26]
Yep. And they're trying to figure out who they are
[28:28]
and how they relate in their groups.
[28:30]
And their groups are changing. It's,
[28:31]
it's a very difficult transition.
[28:34]
And so we are hoping that with,
[28:35]
by switching up the fifth grade lessons a little bit
[28:38]
and making them more in introverted,
[28:40]
we'll give these students a little bit more
[28:43]
just self-esteem, self-confidence, power to to say no
[28:46]
or power to make the hard, those hard choices.
[28:48]
'cause it is hard for those kids to do that.
[28:50]
But also walking the fine line of, you know,
[28:52]
my volunteers are just that they're volunteers.
[28:54]
They're not psychologists, they're not educators.
[28:56]
We wanna make sure that we're giving them lessons
[28:58]
that are broad enough
[29:00]
but we're not imposing, I don't know,
[29:03]
self doctrines on kids.
[29:05]
We want them to just give them tools to be self confident.
[29:10]
Good. Awesome. Anything else? Thank you.
[29:13]
All right. I'll see You guys soon. Thank
[29:14]
you for the update. Yeah,
[29:15]
Of course.
[29:16]
Thank you. Thank you.
[29:21]
Next commissioners we have
[29:23]
Director Scott Hall from emergency services with
[29:28]
his update today and that can be located in your book
[29:32]
tab six, item two, pages two through 23.
[29:35]
And we also have it up on the screen here as well.
[29:39]
Good morning, Senator Director Haas.
[29:40]
Yes, good morning. Good morning everyone.
[29:44]
It's nice to be here in the morning.
[29:47]
We've been told to hold this to 10 minutes
[29:49]
so we're gonna speak really fast.
[29:52]
If you could hold your questions till the end,
[29:54]
I'm sure you'll have a couple questions for us.
[29:55]
Each one of us is timed out how long it's gonna take us
[29:58]
to do our, our component of it.
[30:00]
So I am going to immediately turn it over to Lori
[30:03]
to go over special operations.
[30:04]
How much time does she get and just keep Yeah,
[30:07]
how much time does she get about the more
[30:09]
not enough the more
[30:10]
We pause what time I'm gonna get.
[30:13]
Alright, so good morning.
[30:15]
I just wanna do a general recap of special operations.
[30:18]
It's kind of a vague overview of our staffing.
[30:22]
We've done some remodeling
[30:23]
and this is what our staff looks like now.
[30:25]
We have eight full-time employees
[30:27]
and we are anywhere from emergency management to logistics
[30:30]
to training under the emergency management umbrella.
[30:33]
Some of the things that we are currently involved
[30:35]
in or project updates.
[30:37]
We have recently submitted four grants for the county.
[30:42]
There's a list of them there.
[30:43]
We are also starting to work on our continuity operations.
[30:46]
We'll be reaching out to county departments very soon
[30:49]
so we can work on our continuity of the county government.
[30:53]
We're updating our strategic plan.
[30:55]
We are constantly working on our emergency operations plan
[30:58]
and evolving that.
[31:00]
So that's in case of any large scale emergency.
[31:03]
But we also work with individual groups this year we're,
[31:07]
we were contacted by the four H Fair so
[31:11]
that we can help them come up
[31:13]
with a safety plan for this summer.
[31:16]
And I think you'll see some added benefit to that
[31:18]
during four each week.
[31:20]
And then we also worked with hole in the wall over the last,
[31:23]
I would say three years to get them up and running.
[31:26]
And they're currently doing that.
[31:27]
We're working on a dam plan
[31:29]
and a dam exercise for all the dams
[31:32]
that are in Queen Annes County.
[31:34]
And then that is a mandate by the state.
[31:37]
We do that every five years.
[31:38]
And then we also continually touch the,
[31:42]
our emergency response team
[31:44]
or our cert team is active and growing.
[31:47]
We are in the schools, both high schools
[31:49]
and we are now expanding to two middle schools.
[31:51]
We did one last year.
[31:54]
We're also continually working on CPR staff,
[31:57]
the lead training and public outreach events.
[32:01]
Our logistics group, it consists of the radio,
[32:04]
the CAD analysts and the inventory control.
[32:08]
And then we have our training group
[32:10]
and they are training mostly in-house coordinating out of
[32:16]
out of our department to get enhanced training for EMS,
[32:19]
special operations and
[32:22]
and communication. And that is
[32:26]
Alright on EMS.
[32:29]
So first thing I wanna highlight is our staffing.
[32:31]
So this is our current staffing based off of
[32:33]
what we had coming out of FI 26.
[32:35]
This doesn't include that FFY 27 seventh unit.
[32:39]
So the important thing is from baseline we have zero
[32:41]
vacancies right now, which I'm proud of.
[32:43]
We've got one staff member that's in the process
[32:45]
to precept from EMT to paramedic.
[32:48]
We have four more that are in their mentoring process
[32:49]
to set them up for success to move up.
[32:51]
And then we have another four that are
[32:52]
enrolled in paramedic class.
[32:53]
So we're doing really well investing in our staff
[32:55]
and building a pipeline of a LS providers for us.
[32:59]
Fall volume wise, you can look from 24
[33:02]
to 25 we saw enhancement
[33:03]
or increases across the board in calls, transports
[33:06]
and depletions in 2026 were already
[33:09]
projected to be ahead in calls.
[33:11]
Transports are lagging a little bit behind then
[33:14]
what they would've been at this time last year.
[33:15]
But also June to September is the busy months
[33:18]
with the summer traffic.
[33:20]
So we expect that those numbers will probably hike up a
[33:22]
little bit over the company once.
[33:26]
Looking at our response times for our 1275,
[33:28]
we're holding pretty consistent around 13
[33:31]
and a half minutes on our 70th percentile.
[33:33]
We're also highlighting the 90th percentile
[33:35]
'cause it's something in our
[33:36]
strategic plan that we're looking at.
[33:37]
And that's kind of an industry standard
[33:38]
that you really wanna start with Nate,
[33:40]
your 90th percentile times, which we hold close
[33:42]
to 17 minutes right now.
[33:44]
Something that's contributing to challenges in our division
[33:48]
and we're seeing an increase in major
[33:49]
incidents throughout the county.
[33:52]
We've got a lot of large accidents.
[33:54]
We've had a couple of search operations that have happened
[33:56]
and we're seeing an increase in our priority cardiac
[33:58]
and respiratory patients.
[34:00]
And things to notice is
[34:01]
that these high acuity calls require multiple units
[34:04]
of people to manage the severity
[34:06]
of these people projects underway.
[34:09]
You guys are familiar with the whole blood grant.
[34:11]
We've talked about that last month.
[34:12]
We're just waiting for the funding to be released
[34:14]
to move forward with that project.
[34:16]
The replacement supervisor unit that we ordered in November
[34:19]
of last year is on the production line
[34:21]
and we anticipate to see delivery of it in September.
[34:24]
The cardiac monitors that you guys approved for us to do,
[34:26]
we have taken delivery of them
[34:28]
and we will do be doing training in the month of August
[34:30]
with a target in service date of August 26th.
[34:33]
And then we're also expanding our rapid sequence induction
[34:36]
program, which is the highest level
[34:37]
of innovation in airway care that we do.
[34:39]
Thanks to Lori's training folks, we're able
[34:41]
to really train up some folks outside
[34:43]
of our supervisor cadre
[34:44]
that were the only ones that had that skill.
[34:45]
So we're gonna increase the level of service to the citizens
[34:48]
of Queens County through that transport unit updates.
[34:52]
So we've got two new Fesco units that are
[34:55]
arrived in November and are in service.
[34:57]
The unit that we ordered in July of 23,
[34:59]
we finally got a production number on
[35:01]
and we're expecting to see that
[35:02]
around Thanksgiving of this year.
[35:04]
And then we currently have two units on order from Fesco
[35:07]
that were approved on August 27th
[35:09]
and shortly we'll be asking you for another one 12
[35:12]
to 18 month lead times on those.
[35:15]
And last thing I know it's on
[35:16]
all your mind The seventh unit.
[35:17]
So we have two paramedics for that unit that are scheduled
[35:21]
to start on August 12th.
[35:23]
We are open for EMT positions up until tomorrow afternoon.
[35:26]
We are gonna be conducting interviews on the 21st.
[35:29]
We're hoping to grab a couple of them to start in
[35:32]
that August 12th cadre.
[35:33]
And if not, we'll put them on an eligibility
[35:35]
list to start them in October.
[35:37]
With that, I'll over to Scott.
[35:40]
All right, so next on list is communications.
[35:42]
Phil thought it would be great to take a vacation.
[35:45]
So he was unavailable to come
[35:46]
today, so I'm taking his place.
[35:49]
The good news with our communications division is,
[35:51]
is we have 25 or 23 full-time staff.
[35:55]
Zach had to make us look bad,
[35:56]
but we have one vacancy and he has zero.
[35:58]
So we're working on the one vacancy just
[36:02]
orientation wise, when we do have a vacancy
[36:05]
and we bring in a new employee from scratch,
[36:07]
it takes us about 1200 hours to train the person
[36:09]
to get them fully functional by themselves on the floor.
[36:13]
So it's usually a huge ordeal
[36:15]
for us when we do have a vacancy call.
[36:17]
Volume wise, we're running just a little under 62,000 calls
[36:22]
to the center so far this year.
[36:24]
Of those calls, 28,000,
[36:27]
a little under 28,000 were emergency calls into the center
[36:30]
and required emergency services.
[36:37]
Phil has successfully passed the state 9 1 1 board
[36:41]
inspection, which is an annual inspection that we go through
[36:45]
and we actually passed with flying
[36:46]
colors and we're very proud of that.
[36:48]
Phil has also upped his QA and QI are quality assurance
[36:52]
and quality improvement programs throughout the division
[36:55]
and we've been lucky that the 9 1 1 board has funded a lot
[36:59]
of applications that we can use
[37:01]
to help us do quality assurance and quality improvement.
[37:04]
One thing that you approved several months ago was the
[37:07]
upgrade to our Vesta nine one one phone system
[37:09]
and it has been delivered, it's sitting in the warehouse
[37:12]
and we have a anticipated completion date of the upgrade
[37:16]
late August timeframe
[37:18]
and we should have a newly functional nine one one
[37:20]
phone system in the center.
[37:22]
We're currently coordinating efforts
[37:24]
with Talbot County's 9 1 1 Center to use their backup center
[37:27]
as our backup center when the courthouse gets its
[37:30]
renovations in the upcoming year.
[37:33]
Currently our IT department is working
[37:36]
with their IT department to make that happen.
[37:38]
And we still have a long way to go but we're hopeful
[37:41]
and confident that we'll be able to use Bert's Backup Center
[37:44]
as our backup center during
[37:46]
that timeframe of the renovations.
[37:48]
Last on the list is we recently had an audit done
[37:52]
through the 9 1 1 board to analyze our rate
[37:57]
that we charge on the phone bills.
[37:59]
If you're, if you remember about two years ago we raised our
[38:02]
rate from I think 75 cents to a dollar 50.
[38:06]
And it took us about two years to do that process.
[38:08]
Thank you Commissioner Wilson for getting in the middle
[38:10]
of it and expediting that process
[38:13]
even though I wouldn't really call it expediting it,
[38:16]
but you moved it along a lot quicker than what it could.
[38:19]
They basically on their analysis feel
[38:21]
that we could up up our fee
[38:23]
to $3 if we're comfortable doing that.
[38:26]
We can't do that currently.
[38:27]
I'm just putting a a a a reminder
[38:30]
that we could potentially do this
[38:33]
December timeframe is when we need, need
[38:35]
to start considering it and start
[38:36]
having conversations on it.
[38:37]
And why my bringing it up is the 9 1 1 board is not capable
[38:41]
of funding to the same levels that it has in the past
[38:44]
because the technology change.
[38:46]
There is a large brunt on the money for the grants
[38:49]
that the 9 1 1 board, which will require us to pay more
[38:52]
for services that the board has covered in the past.
[38:55]
The good news is I am currently a voting member on the board
[38:59]
and Jeff Rank sitting behind me is probably gonna get even
[39:03]
with me for talking to him into being a
[39:05]
member of the 9 1 1 board.
[39:07]
But he is the fiscal administrator that's on a 9 1 1 board.
[39:11]
I'm very proud of both of us being able to to participate in
[39:14]
that and thank you Jeff for saying yes
[39:16]
and you'll probably never say yes to me ever again.
[39:22]
Next on the list is fire Marshal Jeff, take it away.
[39:24]
So I'm Jeff Morgan, I'm a fire
[39:26]
marshal for Queen Hills County.
[39:29]
Currently in our office we have two full-time people.
[39:32]
We have a one fire marshal
[39:35]
and then one full-time fire inspector, two plans examiner.
[39:38]
And we have five part-time contract personnel,
[39:42]
which includes one part-time fire inspector,
[39:44]
two plans examiner and four part-time inspectors.
[39:48]
These are the stats from January through June.
[39:52]
They're half year stats.
[39:54]
It averages to 183 activities plan reviews per month,
[40:00]
which breaks out to nine average activity plan reviews per
[40:03]
county workday, which excludes holidays and weekends.
[40:07]
If you look at the stats over on the side,
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I'll just point out a few of 'em.
[40:10]
The bucket final,
[40:11]
which are residentials in the county residential units,
[40:15]
it's 121 we've done so far this year.
[40:19]
Hydros are 124
[40:23]
and the inspections we've done is 269.
[40:27]
We've had three complaints that we follow up on
[40:29]
and those are citizen complaints that come in
[40:31]
through an email system.
[40:33]
They can go online to the fire marshal,
[40:35]
they can put in whatever problem they have
[40:37]
and we'll come out and we'll take a look at
[40:39]
what the issue is and get back to 'em if they So a desire.
[40:42]
And we've done 277 plan reviews this year so far.
[40:46]
And our total right now is 1,094.
[40:50]
And then this is a breakdown from 2018 when I took over
[40:54]
to the present and you can see the,
[40:56]
the reds are all the activities such as inspections,
[41:01]
bucket tests, complaints, anything like that.
[41:04]
And the greens are the plan reviews
[41:05]
that we've done in those years.
[41:07]
And he says this is for calendar year. So that's all I have.
[41:13]
So at the end, there's one thing that Lori forgot
[41:15]
to mention, and I am not walking outta here without
[41:18]
mentioning it 'cause I'm very proud of it.
[41:20]
But the Maryland Emergency Management Association recognized
[41:23]
Queen Annes County Special Operations Division
[41:25]
with two awards this year, which I'm extremely proud of.
[41:28]
One of 'em for Queen Annes County was a multi-agency
[41:31]
sheltering exercise.
[41:34]
Received the preparedness project
[41:36]
of the year award for that.
[41:38]
The second award that she received was
[41:40]
for Queen Anne County Cert program
[41:43]
and we received the community project
[41:45]
of the year award for that.
[41:47]
Why is that significant? Because there are 26 primary local
[41:51]
jurisdictions that compete for these awards.
[41:53]
There's basically six of 'em throughout the year.
[41:56]
We receive two of 'em, which is unheard of.
[41:58]
We've got a staff of three lori's part-time of that staff
[42:01]
of three doing emergency management work.
[42:04]
And most of these agencies in the larger jurisdictions have
[42:07]
well over 20 people working in their
[42:09]
emergency management division.
[42:10]
So we're outperforming with three compared to
[42:13]
what the larger jurisdictions are doing.
[42:15]
So I'm extremely proud of that.
[42:16]
And that's the end of our
[42:17]
presentation. So you have any questions?
[42:19]
Very good. So what Scott saying is if we reduce his
[42:21]
workforce a little bit more, they work harder, right?
[42:26]
And we get more awards Reputation, what I said
[42:29]
So much for job security, Great job on those awards.
[42:32]
I, I think people, what they don't see is sort
[42:35]
of the local government working quietly, the background.
[42:38]
And it's a lot of the planning
[42:39]
and preparation that you do for if there's an emergency
[42:41]
that allows you to respond so effectively
[42:44]
and people don't see those exercise going on,
[42:47]
but they're constantly being evaluated
[42:49]
and it's amazing work that you guys do. So thank you. Thank
[42:52]
You.
[42:53]
Well, one thing, you guys have always been role players
[42:54]
for us on, on these drills.
[42:56]
I think you won a an academy award Commissioner Moran on,
[43:00]
on a couple that you've done for us.
[43:01]
And Phil has always been behind us on everything that we do
[43:06]
and basically is on a unit every time we
[43:08]
have an event that we're covering.
[43:09]
So, so all of you thank you for
[43:11]
What do for, well I I'm gonna get, hopefully I get one
[43:13]
more chance, one more attempt at working
[43:15]
the, the Bay Bridge race. We are
[43:17]
Hoping, hoping that you are there for us. Yeah,
[43:19]
That I just, just one discouraging comment
[43:24]
regarding your presentation
[43:26]
and certainly out of your control,
[43:28]
but you talk about units that we ordered in 2023 and
[43:32]
and we're and they've just entered production.
[43:35]
Yep. So, you know, trying to plan that far out on, on
[43:39]
and anticipate what our needs are gonna be in the future,
[43:41]
knowing how long it takes to get equipment in.
[43:44]
So kudos to you and your staff.
[43:47]
I I just become a common factor that you guys lead,
[43:51]
you know, the state in a lot of categories
[43:53]
and that a lot of organizations in other county
[43:56]
jurisdictions want to be like us.
[43:57]
So kudos to you guys. Outstanding work. We
[44:01]
Appreciate your support.
[44:02]
Well we couldn't do our work without you,
[44:03]
so thank you for everything you do for us.
[44:05]
So, real quick question, Lord, has the state
[44:07]
or is there any rumblings of the state addressing the
[44:10]
battery emergency systems in terms of
[44:14]
from an emergency management standpoint
[44:16]
because we're only gonna be able to hold 'em off for so long
[44:20]
and one of the fears is they get in
[44:22]
before we actually have a plan
[44:23]
on how we're gonna deal with
[44:24]
'em. If something was to happen.
[44:25]
We have not heard anything or the state but, and
[44:28]
It has not hit a state level on the emergency management
[44:30]
Side at all. Okay.
[44:31]
We talked about battery storage for
[44:33]
Solar large.
[44:34]
Yeah. Actually it's gonna be more than just solar now.
[44:37]
It's gonna be for a lot of things. Yeah, yeah.
[44:39]
Standalone and everything else. So yeah. All right.
[44:42]
Well between that and data centers
[44:45]
and everything else,
[44:46]
we're not worried about data centers right now.
[44:47]
We got, we got more,
[44:49]
We got a year reprieve
[44:50]
There, but, but you're not wrong.
[44:51]
That's where the, that's where the big battery,
[44:54]
I was out Frederick County at
[44:55]
that hyper data center out there
[44:57]
and a number of batteries they're gonna have out there.
[44:59]
If that catches own fire, the whole county's gonna go.
[45:01]
I mean there's just no way they're gonna contain that.
[45:02]
Right. 180 acres of batteries.
[45:05]
It's just gonna have to let it burn out. Yeah.
[45:07]
It's the only way to do it. Yeah, unfortunately. Anyway.
[45:10]
Well that's good to know the state's on it.
[45:13]
Be some Well thank
[45:15]
you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
[45:16]
Scott, while you're here.
[45:17]
Commissioners, they, they had two action items.
[45:19]
Do you wanna cover those real quickly? Yep.
[45:21]
Alright, So if you wanna turn to tab number three,
[45:22]
commissioners tab three, item number 11,
[45:26]
pages 46 through 50.
[45:27]
This is for the emergency services billing rate increase
[45:31]
proposal in the addition of a lift assist
[45:33]
and treatment without charge transport charge fee.
[45:37]
So they've conducted an analysis of their current rates,
[45:41]
Medicare reimbursement trends, inflation factors,
[45:44]
and looking at neighboring jurisdictions.
[45:47]
And it's been determined that our existing rates are
[45:49]
significantly below regional benchmarks
[45:52]
and there is a recommended increase of 200% in those
[45:56]
transport charges to better align with prevail market rates
[45:59]
and improve cost recovery.
[46:00]
And to establish a charge for lift assist responses,
[46:04]
which are an increasing, increasing in call volumes as well.
[46:09]
So
[46:12]
I move to approve the increase in ambulance billing rates
[46:14]
and authorize the implementation of charges
[46:17]
for lift assistance services
[46:19]
and treatment without transport services as recommended
[46:21]
by EMS and slash mc.
[46:26]
Second, We have a motion
[46:27]
to second any further discussion on this item?
[46:30]
Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[46:33]
Aye. Aye. Opposed? So moved.
[46:35]
Thank you commissioners. And item 12 on pages
[46:38]
51 through 54.
[46:40]
This is a request to order an additional ambulance
[46:44]
with an expected delivery date of 18 to 24 months.
[46:47]
As we we know, we have
[46:51]
a Huston Houston Galveston area contract purchasing program
[46:55]
agreement that will enable the department
[46:57]
to procure a 2027 Ford F five 50
[47:01]
for $394,259.
[47:05]
I move to authorize the director of the department of EMS
[47:08]
to purchase 1 20 27 Ford F 5 54
[47:13]
by four Horton Model 6 23 ambulance
[47:17]
through the Houston Galveston Area Council
[47:21]
Cooperative Purchasing Program from Fesco Emergency Sales
[47:25]
for $394,000 and
[47:29]
$259.
[47:31]
Second, We have a motion and a second on this item.
[47:35]
Any discussion? Seen none.
[47:37]
All those in favor signify the saying aye. Aye. Opposed?
[47:40]
So moved.
[47:42]
Thank you commissioner. Alright, thank
[47:43]
You.
[47:44]
Motions a little lower on that, huh?
[47:44]
And the last one, the stretcher
[47:46]
And the power lit Separate on
[47:49]
That, that so it,
[47:50]
if we know it's under 400,000, it's like woo.
[47:52]
If we ordered that As
[47:54]
A 20% markup, if you order it
[47:56]
through them versus going straight to the manufacturer
[47:58]
On this, I I assume that sooner
[48:00]
or later you're,
[48:02]
your orders this make four that we're waiting on now.
[48:04]
Yes. So we're not gonna put 'em all in service
[48:08]
when they come.
[48:09]
'cause you're gonna end up with a, a year in your cycle
[48:12]
that you're gonna have to replace four ambulances.
[48:14]
They're gonna stagger as they come in. Yeah.
[48:16]
So, but we need to, the fleet
[48:19]
that we have on the street right now, we need
[48:21]
to replace desperately.
[48:22]
So we'll transistor 'em as quick as we can.
[48:26]
Okay. Thank you.
[48:27]
Thank you commissioners. Thank you. All
[48:29]
Right.
[48:30]
Thank you. Great presentation.
[48:30]
And and Todd, I'm
[48:31]
sorry, I think we're a couple minutes. No,
[48:32]
You're fine.
[48:33]
We're good. Alright.
[48:35]
Commission sticking with our action
[48:37]
items in tab number three.
[48:38]
We'll go back to item number onell leading off Proclamation
[48:42]
26 19 Parks and Recreation Month.
[48:47]
That explains everything. That
[48:49]
Explains a lot. It's Parks and
[48:50]
Recreation month.
[48:51]
That's right. That explains a
[48:52]
Lot.
[48:53]
There's a theme
[48:55]
And it's FY 27 Now.
[48:56]
Yeah. What did they say? Go when the
[49:00]
Hooker's hot or whatever back.
[49:02]
Well then it's hot strike. Well it's hot, right?
[49:05]
I've got good practice.
[49:10]
So I You want me to read the proclamation first? Sure.
[49:12]
Or have him go and then justify it. Nevermind. All right.
[49:16]
Proclamation 26 19.
[49:19]
Whereas Parks
[49:20]
and Recreation are an integral part
[49:22]
of communities throughout this country,
[49:25]
including Queen Anne's County and Wears Parks
[49:27]
and Recreation promotes health
[49:29]
and wellness, improving the physical
[49:31]
and mental health of people who live near parks
[49:34]
and wears Parks and Recreation,
[49:36]
encourages physical activities by providing space
[49:38]
for popular sports, hiking trails, swimming pools,
[49:42]
and many other activities designed
[49:44]
to promote active lifestyles.
[49:48]
You should probably have umpiring in in there as an activity
[49:54]
Where has parks and recreation programming education
[49:57]
activities such as out
[49:58]
of school time programming youth sports
[50:00]
and environmental education are critical
[50:02]
to childhood development.
[50:04]
And whereas Parks and Recreation increases a community's
[50:08]
economic prosperity through increased property values,
[50:11]
expansions of local tax base, increased tourism,
[50:16]
the attraction and retention of businesses
[50:18]
and crime reduction.
[50:20]
And whereas Parks and Recreation are fundamental
[50:23]
to the environmental, environmental
[50:25]
wellbeing of our community.
[50:27]
And whereas Parks and Recreation are essential
[50:29]
infrastructures that make our communities resilient in the
[50:32]
face of natural disasters and climate change.
[50:36]
And whereas parks and where our parks
[50:38]
and natural re recreation areas ensure the ecological beauty
[50:43]
of our community and provide a place for children
[50:46]
and adults to connect with nature
[50:48]
and recreate outdoors,
[50:50]
which has a positive impact on mental health and wellbeing.
[50:53]
And whereas the US House of Representatives is designated
[50:57]
July is Parks and Recreation month now
[51:01]
therefore be it resolved by Queenan County Board
[51:03]
of County Commissioners.
[51:05]
The July is recognized as Parks
[51:07]
and Recreation month time
[51:09]
by the Queen Annes County Commissioners.
[51:12]
Thank you. And while he's here
[51:15]
That's right.
[51:17]
While we're here, it is the beginning of a new fiscal year.
[51:19]
So we have the next three items.
[51:20]
Item two, three and four are
[51:22]
for new field lighting projects using the Keystone
[51:26]
purchasing agreement with Muscow.
[51:28]
The first one is for White Marsh Park
[51:31]
lighting on one baseball diamond
[51:32]
and installation of additional infrastructure
[51:34]
for future field lighting. I move to all,
[51:37]
Lemme Finish, you're done. No,
[51:39]
No we're gonna because we're gonna do all three together.
[51:43]
Okay. Okay. Yeah. The second one is at bat's neck
[51:48]
for one baseball diamond retrofitting the artificial turf
[51:51]
field lighting and electrical panel bat's neck park.
[51:54]
And the third item, item four is
[51:57]
for a softball field at Bat's Neck Park as well.
[52:00]
I moved to authorize the Department of Parks
[52:02]
and Recreation to contract with Musco to install lighting
[52:05]
for number one one baseball diamond
[52:07]
and install infrastructure
[52:08]
for future field lighting at White Marsh Park for a total
[52:11]
of $525,368 two one
[52:16]
baseball diamond retrofitting the artificial turf field
[52:19]
lighting and electric panel work at Bats Neck Park
[52:21]
for a total of
[52:22]
six hundred seventy eight five hundred and thirty $2,000
[52:26]
and three one softball field at Bats Neck Park
[52:29]
for an apartment amount
[52:32]
of $294,035 contingent upon
[52:35]
grant funding from DNR program. Open space.
[52:40]
Second. Second. We have a motion
[52:42]
and a second on these three items.
[52:44]
Any discussion? None.
[52:46]
All those in favor signify by saying Aye. Aye. Aye.
[52:48]
Opposed? So moved.
[52:50]
Alright. Actually I know we've already made
[52:52]
but I just want just a quick comment
[52:53]
and I apologize 'cause you raced through that.
[52:55]
But I think it's significant to remember that
[52:58]
by putting these lights on the fields we're we're expanding
[53:01]
the ability to use those diamonds beyond
[53:03]
what daylight hours offer.
[53:05]
So it's important because with this huge need for Fields
[53:10]
usage, with all the different youth sports organizations
[53:13]
that have evolved over the years in our
[53:16]
community, this is key.
[53:18]
So huge money well spent.
[53:22]
Yep. Yeah, sure. Alright.
[53:24]
The next two items, five and six are for new equipment
[53:26]
for our parks and recreation department.
[53:28]
The item five is for
[53:30]
2 20 26 Chevrolet 2,500 trucks.
[53:34]
The second item, item six is for a Ford F five 50 truck
[53:40]
from Hertrich Fleet Services with a dump bed
[53:42]
and snowplow package.
[53:44]
I moved to authorize the Department of Parks
[53:46]
and recreations to purchase number one two 2026 Chevy 2,500
[53:51]
HD trucks with Snowplow packer package from
[53:54]
Hertrich Fleet Service Inc.
[53:56]
In Denton, Maryland for $108,688
[54:00]
and two one 2027 Ford F five 50
[54:04]
truck with dump bed
[54:06]
and snowplow package from Hertrich Fleet Services Inc.
[54:09]
In Milford, Delaware for 108,767.
[54:14]
Second. Okay,
[54:16]
we've got a motion to second on these two items.
[54:18]
Any discussion? None.
[54:20]
All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye.
[54:23]
Opposed? So moved.
[54:25]
Thank you commissioners. And our final item for
[54:28]
Director Chanley is a parks stage rental fee increase on
[54:32]
pages 24 through 26.
[54:34]
And the Parks and Rec advisory board is recommend
[54:36]
to increase the rates for stage rental fees
[54:39]
effective August 1st.
[54:41]
And essentially this is just for the security deposit,
[54:43]
transportation and fuel surcharge fees.
[54:46]
So just recovering our costs to deliver the stage
[54:50]
If somebody borrow It right or rents it.
[54:52]
Yes. Those fees are continued to be waived
[54:57]
for nonprofits and co-sponsored events that
[55:00]
I move to authorize the Department of Park recreation
[55:02]
to increase the rates for stage rentals according
[55:04]
to their updated rate schedule sheet.
[55:06]
Effective August 1st, 2026.
[55:09]
Second. Got a motion to second. Any discussion?
[55:11]
Seeing none. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. So
[55:17]
Thank you.
[55:18]
Just if you don't mind real quick, because this Parks
[55:21]
and Recreation month, I'd like
[55:22]
to acknowledge our recreation staff that is here.
[55:25]
Yep. We got James Miller, we've got Curtis,
[55:29]
Nick sti, Liz Pearson, Isabella Cheney,
[55:34]
and Karen er here.
[55:35]
And they're the ones who put together,
[55:39]
that's a big part of our organization that, you know,
[55:42]
it's a small group and they do a large,
[55:44]
large activity for all of us.
[55:47]
So they should be acknowledged
[55:48]
For.
[55:49]
Alright, well done. Thank you. Thank you all.
[55:49]
Thank you again for thanks for being here today.
[55:51]
Good to see everybody take care.
[55:53]
You All right? All right, commissioners, moving along.
[55:58]
Item number eight in your books on pages 27
[56:01]
through 28 is an MOU with the Maryland Department
[56:03]
of Transportation, MDTA
[56:05]
for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Flagpole.
[56:07]
And this is a mechanism to allow us to collect donated funds
[56:12]
for the newly erected flag pole down by the Bay Bridge.
[56:22]
I move to execute the memorandum of understanding
[56:24]
with the Maryland Transportation Authority
[56:26]
for the flagpole located at the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
[56:29]
Second, We have a motion to second into discussion.
[56:33]
So funding mechanisms are payback mechanisms.
[56:38]
Well, M-M-D-T-A couldn't accept donations from the local
[56:42]
American legions and VFWs directly.
[56:44]
So we were acting as a conduit
[56:46]
to receive those donated funds to help
[56:48]
Pay and then pass it through
[56:49]
Pay for that project. Okay.
[56:50]
Okay. So that, that was really, they,
[56:51]
they just can't accept those donations.
[56:53]
So this was a mechanism to allow us to get that
[56:55]
and gotcha for the project.
[56:57]
Yeah.
[56:59]
So not that we would promote gambling of any sort,
[57:02]
but if you are a member of any of the American Legions post,
[57:08]
they are gonna be committing half of the proceeds
[57:10]
that they receive on the machines
[57:13]
that they have at their location
[57:15]
towards the payment of this flag.
[57:17]
So, gamble away
[57:22]
and if there's an issue and a problem,
[57:24]
dial the 1-800-GAMBLING problem number.
[57:28]
Okay. Is there any other discussion?
[57:32]
Let's get that flag paid for.
[57:34]
Alright. Seeing none, all those in favor
[57:35]
signify saying aye a.
[57:37]
Aye. Aye. Opposed? So
[57:38]
Moved. Sorry Jim.
[57:40]
Thank you commissioners. Item nine.
[57:42]
On pages 29 through 43, we have a,
[57:44]
a conservation reserve enhancement program, a crep agreement
[57:48]
of sale and project agreement
[57:49]
for the relief farm LLC 90.7 acres
[57:53]
of a 338 acre farm owned by relief farm ready
[57:56]
to be submitted to Maryland DNR
[57:58]
for review and final approval.
[58:00]
No county dollars are associated with this crep easement.
[58:04]
I move to execute the Crep easement agreement of sale
[58:07]
and project agreement for the property owned
[58:09]
by relief farm LLC.
[58:11]
Second. Got a motion to second. Any discussion?
[58:15]
Very well. All those in favor sign public saying aye. Aye.
[58:18]
Opposed? So moved.
[58:20]
Thank you commissioners. Item 10,
[58:23]
we have a resolution here.
[58:24]
This is resolution number 26 0 9.
[58:26]
It's a slight modification to the moratorium,
[58:28]
which is resolution 25 12.
[58:30]
This resolution is to extend the one year deadline on the
[58:33]
Board of Appeals conditional use approvals that for projects
[58:37]
that may have been caught up in that, in
[58:39]
that approval process, that will stay the timeline
[58:43]
for a particular project and,
[58:45]
and that the approval which would
[58:47]
otherwise expire on July 16th, so they will not have
[58:50]
to return to the Board of Appeals
[58:52]
for a conditional use approval they've already received.
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I move to adopt resolution 26 0 9
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Second.
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Okay, we have a motion to second on this. Any discussion?
[59:07]
And again, this is modifying the moratorium imposed
[59:10]
by the resolution 25 dash 12.
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Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying Aye. Aye.
[59:15]
Aye. Opposed? So moved.
[59:18]
All right. Thank you Commissioners.
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We've completed items 11
[59:21]
and 12 with Director Haas,
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item 13 on pages 55 through 57.
[59:28]
This is from our liquor board.
[59:31]
This is for performing arts nonprofit organization,
[59:34]
beer and wine license.
[59:36]
They, the recently approved
[59:39]
and voted to pro promote legislation for new beer
[59:44]
and wine licenses for performing arts groups.
[59:48]
And the board respectfully requested the commissioners
[59:50]
forward this particular legislation to the delegation
[59:53]
for introduction at the next legislative session in 2027.
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And this was generated via the Churchill Theater.
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They were requesting a beer
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and wine license for plays and shows.
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I move that the proposed legislation 27 dash 1 0 2,
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performing arts nonprofit organization, beer
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and wine license as submitted by the liquor Board,
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be forwarded to our legislative delegation
[1:00:15]
for consideration, an introduction
[1:00:18]
during the 2027 legislative session.
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Second, We have a motion to second any discussion
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As the commissioner lays liaison to the board of ed,
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I mean to the liquor board, it's, they're constantly coming
[1:00:30]
to the liquor board for a one day
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license or a one event license.
[1:00:34]
And, and it just made more sense to go this direction,
[1:00:37]
you know, to give them that, that ability to not have
[1:00:41]
to keep coming to the liquor board every time
[1:00:42]
they're gonna have an event at the theater.
[1:00:44]
So this was something that they discussed and worked out
[1:00:48]
and it's, it's a good idea.
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Perfect. Very good. Any other discussion? Seeing none.
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All those in favor? Seat opposed saying Aye. Aye. Aye.
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Opposed? So moved
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All commissioners.
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Item 14 on page 58 is a letter of support
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for a grant application being submitted by Hope for All.
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And this is for a Veteran's home subdivision located in
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Grayville on Melvin Avenue.
[1:01:12]
And the project would include pre-designed planning,
[1:01:16]
schematic design, design development,
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and vacuum sewer remain upgrades going forward.
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So if they get the grant, so nice project,
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I move to execute the letter of support to
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Maryland Historic Trust for hope
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for all Veterans Home Subdivision Project.
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Second Honor. Motion to second. Any discussion?
[1:01:36]
Seeing none. All those in favor signify to say aye. Aye.
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Opposed? So moved.
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Thank you commissioners. Item number 15
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is a procurement policy addendum and a donation
[1:01:49]
and sponsorship policy revision on pages 59
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through 110.
[1:01:55]
So addendum one to the procurement policy supplements are
[1:01:58]
existing procurement policy specifically
[1:02:00]
for procurements funding in whole
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or part with federal grants Cooperative agreements
[1:02:04]
or pass through funds locally funded
[1:02:07]
projects are not effective.
[1:02:08]
But this basically just puts us into compliance
[1:02:10]
with the federal uniform guidance
[1:02:13]
and states that we're at conflicts with any of those
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that the, the addendum will control
[1:02:17]
for federally funded projects.
[1:02:19]
And secondly, the donation
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and sponsorship policy replaces our old donated policy,
[1:02:24]
a donated property policy with a broader donation
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and sponsorship program covering cash, gifts, real
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and personal property in kind services, et cetera.
[1:02:33]
We don't use that very much, but we wanted
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to have something, you know, on the books in case we have
[1:02:36]
those opportunities going forward.
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This is just a general update. Yes,
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If you have any questions, director Jeff rank
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penned this policy in these amendments. So these
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I move to prove Addendum one,
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federal procurement compliance addendum
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to the county's procurement policy 400 dash zero one
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and place the county's donation policy
[1:03:00]
with a new donation sponsorship policy.
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400 dash one both to be effective July 14th, 2026.
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Second, we have a motion in a second.
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Any other discussion? This isn't gonna make
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It more difficult, right?
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This isn't gonna make it more difficult for donations.
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No. It'll just create some guidelines
[1:03:27]
to better monitor the donations.
[1:03:29]
So a lot of donations come in and have restricted uses
[1:03:33]
and makes sure that we use funds for that
[1:03:38]
and is, and are entered into our books properly.
[1:03:42]
And, and, and this authority,
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the commissioners have the ability to, to make any kind
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of changes or waive certain restrictions
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on a case by case basis.
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Okay,
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Any other discussion?
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Seeing none. All those in favor sign public saying aye. Aye.
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Aye. Opposed? So moved.
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Thank you commissioners. And our final item today is item
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16 on pages 111 through one 14.
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This is Budget Amendment CC one for the Board of Education.
[1:04:16]
This provides $500,000 to the Board of Education
[1:04:19]
to fund two district-wide rotating behavioralists
[1:04:22]
and four middle school mental health support staff positions
[1:04:25]
as approved by the board. Last month
[1:04:28]
I moved to approve Budget amendment CC one,
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increasing the Board of Ed operating budget
[1:04:35]
by 500,000.
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Second. I have a motion in a second. Any discussion?
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Move all those in favor. So same aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?
[1:04:46]
That'll move. Alright, commissioner,
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That's all we had.
[1:04:51]
So we're at just five minutes shy
[1:04:54]
of pressing public comments.
[1:04:56]
Part two on the agenda.
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There you go. Anything, nothing, nothing online.
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Nobody wants to speak.
[1:05:06]
Alrighty, we'll close pressing public comment.
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Go to round table, we'll go backwards. All right.
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Happy Bastille Day to our,
[1:05:15]
our French American Commissioner.
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There you go. Mr. Mr. Moran. Thank you.
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And Commissioner Ell and do Oh, that's true. Yes.
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So I wanted to make sure, acknowledge,
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believe we ell for both of you.
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And then I wanted this, we, we,
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we passed on two text amendments today
[1:05:32]
to have them have some modifications and coming back in
[1:05:37]
and we've gotten a bunch of emails
[1:05:39]
and some for some against, right?
[1:05:41]
Both split. But it, it highlights an issue
[1:05:45]
that we've talked about a lot in the past
[1:05:47]
that it still always seems to escape.
[1:05:51]
The public dialogue is speaking
[1:05:53]
to the actual issue that's before it.
[1:05:56]
So a lot of what we've received against is it's dangerous
[1:05:59]
because of 3 0 1,
[1:06:02]
but the ordinance that they're seeking to change
[1:06:07]
has nothing to do with the proximity to 3 0 1, right?
[1:06:11]
'cause 3 0 1 is more than two
[1:06:13]
and a half times, oh, the distance from that property than
[1:06:17]
what the minimum safety standards are in the ordinance.
[1:06:21]
So it's nothing to do with 3 0 1.
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It's I think what Carville Price Road is the road.
[1:06:26]
So if you're saying it's dangerous, right?
[1:06:28]
And you're saying it's because of 3 0 1, that's not
[1:06:32]
what the ordinance speaks to.
[1:06:33]
You really need to speak to what is the volume
[1:06:35]
of traffic coming off Carville Price Road
[1:06:37]
that creates the danger.
[1:06:39]
That's, that's the issue that's being addressed by that.
[1:06:43]
And I think a lot of people are forgetting that not
[1:06:46]
to discount the issues with 3 0 1 and safety concerns.
[1:06:50]
And we have been doing a whole bunch of stuff with the state
[1:06:53]
to try to address those
[1:06:54]
and trying to get federal grant funding
[1:06:57]
to try to improve those intersections.
[1:06:58]
But, but that's not the intersection,
[1:07:00]
that's the issue of the ordinance.
[1:07:02]
And I don't think people are understanding that.
[1:07:05]
And so a lot of times when people come
[1:07:07]
and they speak against something
[1:07:09]
and they're speaking to something that is not the issue
[1:07:11]
that's coming up and then they
[1:07:12]
feel like, well, nobody listened to me.
[1:07:14]
It's like, but you, but you weren't talking about the issue.
[1:07:17]
So also tech ops, we had the gentleman here talking about
[1:07:20]
what's the traffic impact of
[1:07:22]
where the new location for tech ops is.
[1:07:24]
And I hear all these people saying all this traffic,
[1:07:28]
but it sounds like to me of people
[1:07:30]
who don't really know much about tech ops, right?
[1:07:33]
And they're assuming a traffic flow.
[1:07:35]
Tech ops does not have hundreds of employees. 25. Yeah.
[1:07:39]
I mean it's 25 maybe with a new thing they'll get up to 35
[1:07:42]
or 40 hopefully more, more jobs.
[1:07:45]
It's not a lot of traffic that are coming in.
[1:07:48]
Tech ops does not have a whole lot
[1:07:50]
of tractor trailers coming in.
[1:07:51]
I mean, they have a piece of equipment that comes in
[1:07:54]
a bus from DEA
[1:07:57]
or you, you have a support van for Spokane Police Department
[1:08:02]
and it's there for several months being worked on,
[1:08:06]
not coming in and out.
[1:08:09]
So it's not a high volume, frankly, if you're worried about
[1:08:14]
traffic volume is a safety issue for that parcel,
[1:08:18]
you should want tech ops
[1:08:20]
because it is probably the least impact to traffic
[1:08:23]
of any other business that could go there.
[1:08:26]
And then the other issue when people are writing about it
[1:08:29]
saying you shouldn't let tech ops there,
[1:08:31]
or some people will say it's already decided actually yes,
[1:08:34]
it has already been decided.
[1:08:36]
It's called zoning. Zoning of what can go into a piece
[1:08:39]
of property is already decided.
[1:08:42]
That's why the business chooses that property.
[1:08:44]
Because if you have a business and you wanna expand
[1:08:47]
and you go to a real estate agent, you don't say,
[1:08:50]
show me any piece of property where maybe I could build it.
[1:08:52]
You say, here's my business, what parcels are available
[1:08:57]
where I can do what I do.
[1:08:59]
And zoning will say, yes,
[1:09:00]
this is already legally allowed there.
[1:09:02]
So has the decision been already made
[1:09:05]
that a business like Tech Ops could be in there?
[1:09:08]
Yes, absolutely. A hundred percent.
[1:09:09]
That was done a long, long time ago by zoning.
[1:09:13]
It has been zoned for that.
[1:09:14]
So the decision is not whether a business
[1:09:17]
like that could go there.
[1:09:18]
It is. Does the concept plan fit within the requirements?
[1:09:22]
And so if, if there's opposition to that, you need
[1:09:25]
to look at the specific issue that's coming up
[1:09:28]
before the planning commission.
[1:09:29]
Because if you speak about like a challenge
[1:09:32]
to zoning when it's already been zoned,
[1:09:34]
the planning commission can't change the zoning based on
[1:09:37]
public comment that would trigger all
[1:09:40]
kinds of lawsuits for the county.
[1:09:42]
We did a town hall expressing a lot of
[1:09:45]
how development works in Queens County
[1:09:46]
and all the vast rules that are in place.
[1:09:49]
And it's not just county law.
[1:09:51]
There's state law, there's federal law
[1:09:53]
that all impacts these things.
[1:09:54]
And so it's important whether you're for
[1:09:57]
or against the project that you're actually looking to
[1:09:59]
what is the issue that's being decided on.
[1:10:01]
And then look at the law surrounding that
[1:10:03]
so you can actually speak to the actual issue.
[1:10:04]
Because if you're not, you're,
[1:10:08]
you're not talking about the issue that's being decided.
[1:10:10]
So you're gonna feel like your voice
[1:10:12]
wasn't heard or, or impacted.
[1:10:14]
But if you're not talking to the actual issue, then it's not
[1:10:17]
what the jurisdiction of that board who's deciding on it,
[1:10:20]
it's not what they're allowed to decide on.
[1:10:22]
And I think we get into a lot of times where people get
[1:10:26]
frustrated or sort of disenchanted
[1:10:28]
because they're not focusing in on the actual issue.
[1:10:31]
So I, and and since that came up twice today,
[1:10:33]
I wanted to point that out again.
[1:10:35]
I pointed out a lot, and hopefully it starts to click in
[1:10:39]
with people, but there, there is a vast amount
[1:10:42]
of laws in place as to where things can and can't go.
[1:10:46]
And it's not anybody just waving a wand
[1:10:48]
and deciding at one hearing.
[1:10:51]
Thank you. So I just wanna put that out there. Appreciate
[1:10:53]
It, appreciate it.
[1:10:54]
I'm, I'm, I'm not following that, so I'm good.
[1:10:58]
I I for my time to, to Chris used, I, I think it,
[1:11:02]
those were important issues that he made.
[1:11:04]
Sometimes we, we, we miss the big picture, you know,
[1:11:07]
we're we constantly looking at things at 37,000 feet
[1:11:11]
and we're not really looking at the focus of the point point
[1:11:13]
that's actually trying to be made.
[1:11:14]
So thank you Chris. Well done.
[1:11:18]
Patrick Fernos restaurant, worked there,
[1:11:23]
worked there for years, and then a convenience store.
[1:11:27]
It seems like this is a issue that is,
[1:11:33]
as you spelled it out correctly.
[1:11:37]
Secondly, Wayne Humphreys, what a great man.
[1:11:41]
He has done so much for the county
[1:11:43]
so much that we don't know.
[1:11:45]
He was heavily involved the playground
[1:11:50]
at Old Love Point.
[1:11:54]
And I worked with him on that.
[1:11:56]
And I remember, you know, 25 years ago, him coming to the,
[1:12:01]
the church talking about this character counts thing.
[1:12:04]
And he's, he was just a, a really wonderful man.
[1:12:09]
Third, that blood infusion program I am
[1:12:12]
really excited about.
[1:12:13]
Of course we'll never know whoever needs it,
[1:12:17]
but it is a phenomenal step forward for mobile units
[1:12:21]
to be able to get access to blood on, you know,
[1:12:24]
during an MCV on Route 50 or 3 0 1.
[1:12:27]
It, it really is extraordinary.
[1:12:30]
And finally, the flagpole,
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I would have to say that it's probably
[1:12:38]
the most positive input I've heard
[1:12:40]
of since living in the county that the,
[1:12:43]
and the commissioners put this together, the,
[1:12:47]
the o overwhelming response was 99
[1:12:50]
to 99% Lost it, missed
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It, right.
[1:12:54]
I mean terms like majestic and, and
[1:12:57]
It made my day.
[1:12:58]
I woke up as I was
[1:12:59]
Driving and then when, then when the flag wasn't up,
[1:13:01]
they just came unglued, like where's fly? Where to go?
[1:13:04]
But isn't that nice? Isn't that nice?
[1:13:06]
More excitement than when the Chipotle opened it.
[1:13:08]
And that was a big deal on Ken Island.
[1:13:09]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:13:11]
This was much bigger than Chipotle. Yeah, it was.
[1:13:14]
Anyhow, so it seems like we were able
[1:13:17]
to rectify part of the problem.
[1:13:23]
It would still be nice if we could get it to fly
[1:13:26]
Thanksgiving and Christmas,
[1:13:27]
but right now that's not on the docket.
[1:13:30]
So I think we need to either send a letter to, to Richard
[1:13:34]
and to the governor saying, Hey, you know, can we come up
[1:13:37]
with more than five or six times a year
[1:13:40]
where this is gonna fly?
[1:13:41]
Yes. The smaller flag is a
[1:13:46]
bandaid, but that's about what it is.
[1:13:48]
It's beautiful. I went
[1:13:49]
and looked at it yesterday from Walt Petrie's place.
[1:13:52]
It's still a pretty big flag. It is.
[1:13:54]
I mean it's still pretty big.
[1:13:56]
Commissioner, I don't know if you're on,
[1:13:58]
have a meeting coming up,
[1:14:00]
but is there something we can do to try
[1:14:04]
to get them to put it up more often?
[1:14:05]
You mean as far as brag, you mean?
[1:14:06]
Well, I think the thing is we need to take control of it
[1:14:10]
if, or the American Legion
[1:14:13]
let the American Legion take it up and put it down.
[1:14:15]
That's what they do. They're exceptional at it. But
[1:14:19]
The, the safety concern.
[1:14:20]
Yeah, safety concern.
[1:14:21]
Yep. But right now we go out
[1:14:23]
and change the lettering on the overdoses and deaths.
[1:14:28]
So I, I think we qualify to be able
[1:14:30]
to handle putting the flag up and down,
[1:14:33]
but we'll see them at maco
[1:14:35]
and we can as a collectively
[1:14:38]
as a group voice our opinions to that.
[1:14:40]
I'd like to see 'em bump up the size of the interim flag.
[1:14:43]
It's 10 by 15, let's jump up one or two sizes
[1:14:45]
and seats, you know, 15 by
[1:14:47]
25.
[1:14:48]
15 by 25. This one now the, the smaller
[1:14:51]
One.
[1:14:52]
Yeah. Okay. So the big one's
[1:14:52]
30 by 50.
[1:14:53]
Right. So it's half.
[1:14:55]
And that's, and that's a monumental task
[1:14:56]
to take that down and raise it.
[1:14:58]
It takes multiple people. Yeah.
[1:15:00]
And obviously concerns, you know, with the weather and,
[1:15:03]
and how quick the weather can change and,
[1:15:05]
and getting somebody there to get that down.
[1:15:08]
There's a lot of, I mean, again, we, we talk about terms
[1:15:11]
of like majestic,
[1:15:12]
but understand there's a, the human aspect of it on
[1:15:16]
what it takes to make that majestic look happen.
[1:15:19]
And then I think that's where a lot of the,
[1:15:22]
the devil is in the details and getting that done. So
[1:15:25]
Between the county and the American Legion,
[1:15:27]
I think we could figure it out.
[1:15:29]
Yeah, I'd love to see that work out. Yeah.
[1:15:33]
But that again, you know, addressing the issues.
[1:15:36]
But perhaps maybe, you know, M Mdot does some training
[1:15:40]
for a handful of these Legion members, you know, and,
[1:15:42]
and so they understand the processes
[1:15:45]
and what some of the restrictions will be and just coming
[1:15:48]
and going to that area on the bridge again.
[1:15:51]
That's the concern. Right.
[1:15:52]
Again, I don't think it's a safety issue. Where do
[1:15:55]
They park?
[1:15:56]
How do they get there? Right.
[1:15:56]
And they don't have the proper, you know, vehicles
[1:15:59]
that have all the lights on it.
[1:16:01]
Yep. The nine yards. So the county does,
[1:16:03]
and we've done, like I said, we've maintained the sign, so
[1:16:06]
it'd be nice to have the support of the American Legion,
[1:16:08]
but, you know, we'll, we'll do the, you know,
[1:16:11]
put people out there to do it.
[1:16:13]
We'll have that discussion at Mako
[1:16:15]
and we'll go from there. Yep.
[1:16:17]
Our, I, I mean respectfully, our, our DW
[1:16:21]
and our sheriff, I mean, they're, they're on 3 0 1 every day
[1:16:25]
or Route 50 and they're,
[1:16:27]
they're pulling off in the median to do something.
[1:16:30]
Right. Even though it's a state road.
[1:16:31]
They're picking up this, they're doing that.
[1:16:34]
I think we could figure it out.
[1:16:35]
Yeah, Well if they would, if they would let us do it.
[1:16:39]
Well again, that's the goal, right? Okay.
[1:16:45]
It Patrick? Yes sir. Alright, Jeff,
[1:16:48]
Just a shout out to the red Exco.
[1:16:50]
I got to witness 'em. Well, yesterday, well
[1:16:53]
Done.
[1:16:54]
They had eight of 'em, nine people lined up
[1:16:57]
and I actually witnessed him, somebody behind me, two cars
[1:17:00]
behind me, tried
[1:17:02]
to jump in when they saw the police up in the distance
[1:17:04]
and got right two cars behind me.
[1:17:07]
And as we got up there, I looked back
[1:17:08]
and that guy was out there, he just yanked him.
[1:17:10]
Even though it was a half mile back,
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he still grabbed him from behind me
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and said, no, you're over there.
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And they had, I'm gonna say they had 10
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or 11 there, the car hold over just Oh yeah.
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Writing a ticket. So I loved it, loved it.
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Didn't have to ride down the middle and keep 'em out.
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So, yeah, that's all I got. I got nothing.
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So motion, make a motion to adjourn.