[0:16] Now we'll look to approve the minutes of last meeting. Do I have a motion to approve?

[0:24] Motion to approve?

[0:24] And a second?

[0:26] All right.

[0:28] That's good.

[0:29] Now we only have one application for this meeting,

[0:31] which is hard 2026-25, 204 Midland Avenue,

[0:37] modification of side elevation openings.

[0:40] Come on up and present.

[0:45] Do you guys have the packet?

[0:46] We had bags.

[0:47] I thought this was all this over and over here without it.

[0:49] Sure, that's right.

[0:51] And...

[0:51] Oh, oh, oh.

[0:52] Oh, oh.

[0:53] Okay.

[0:57] So this is the little bungalow, the little brown bungalow, and that one that everybody knows.

[1:02] It was built in 1910 for the local architect.

[1:05] Very eight type of call for him, usually built.

[1:08] He posted his work with actually public work.

[1:12] Churches, tools, and few of the larger.

[1:16] Yes, I've used them.

[1:17] Thank you.

[1:17] Oh, you're recording.

[1:19] Okay.

[1:20] I'm Gina Ventura, the architect for this project.

[1:23] It's 204, Midland Avenue, the little brown bungalow

[1:26] that you might know near the middle school.

[1:29] And we're looking for some modifications to the side elevation.

[1:36] Yeah.

[1:37] So David, it was a David Nicarbacher boy.

[1:39] He did the church on, like in the intersection of Wayne,

[1:43] the main intersection.

[1:44] He did another house on Aberdeen for himself.

[1:46] bigger. He did old the old Wayne schools. He was sort of the car's trombower generation

[1:53] out of Philly. But this was kind of an unusual house for Wayne. If you know it, and it was unusual

[2:00] for his portfolio. But kind of a cool quirky house. So the story of it was built in 1910.

[2:10] The original front elevation is exactly as it is today, hasn't changed. The only thing that's

[2:16] change to the houses. There was a rear porch that was enclosed. I don't know when. There was no records of that. So it was a while ago.

[2:25] But the house looks literally exactly the same. Next door to the left is actually the new owner's daughter.

[2:32] That was built in 1947. So a little later than most of the other ones. The house directly to the right of it was also built in 1910.

[2:43] And I believe this was recently approved by Harb

[2:46] to enclose some windows.

[2:48] I did notice that.

[2:50] So, you know, these houses change over time.

[2:53] This one is directly across the street,

[2:56] built in 1908, and this is kind of an interesting one.

[3:01] I believe this was renovated probably about 13 years ago.

[3:06] This is that sound right, too,

[3:07] because the owner's son was in kindergarten

[3:09] with my son, and they just graduated high school.

[3:11] So, this was the original building from 1910 and then the next page is actually the renovation that they did to it, which is, you know, very different, a little more modern, but still, I think, I think beautiful, I think they did a great job.

[3:26] I don't know if you can tell from here, but they have a really cool hanging late fixture above the front door that's gas, kind of flickers, which is neat.

[3:34] So, here is our front elevation of Midland, super, super unusual with this arched window

[3:41] completely smushed next to the two double hungs with shutters that are totally

[3:46] the wrong size, but it's all original, believe it or not.

[3:50] I have the floor plan for later, but it was a two bedroom bungalow with an enclosed staircase.

[3:57] The second floor was only for storage.

[3:59] no, right now there's three bedrooms up there in a bathroom must have happened over time but

[4:03] it was just a little bungalow and when we look at the floor plan, it actually had an outhouse

[4:10] also and an out kitchen adjacent to the regular kitchen. So it kind of an unusual floor plan.

[4:18] In an article I found that so the two double hung windows are actually in the kitchen and it was

[4:23] kind of unusual in homes to put the kitchen towards the front of the house. They were more

[4:28] towards the back, but in this funny, the article said,

[4:32] you know, this was a main thoroughfare.

[4:34] I guess Midland was like some kind of straight back then.

[4:37] And there was a big view out the back,

[4:39] because none of these houses were here.

[4:41] So it was kind of kind of a cool plan.

[4:44] And it hadn't been changed to this day.

[4:46] It was the family.

[4:48] It was built for it.

[4:49] It was the same family until this football at it

[4:53] when they closed and June or July.

[4:56] So here's the side elevation.

[5:00] You can see sort of the bottom floor, if we go way left, you can kind of see the porch that's kind of coming out that's enclosed with very ugly vinyl windows that was done a long time ago.

[5:13] The sort of triple window is in the current dining room, with a pretty low sill.

[5:19] The next window is in a pantry, and then there's sort of this entry sequence behind those boxes right here is actually a very small outhouse door.

[5:28] It might be 24 inches wide and then sort of a larger side light and door to the out kitchen.

[5:36] We're changing the floor pan to plan around a bit to relocate the kitchen where this window is.

[5:43] So it's a little low and we have no wall so we're looking to raise it.

[5:48] So we're just looking to do something very simple, very bungalow style, just double hungs.

[5:54] This window here is about 29 inches wide.

[5:57] I'd like to repeat it here, and I'd like to double it here or make it a little bigger.

[6:02] The appliances haven't been selected, so it literally will depend on, you know, a fridge and their range.

[6:11] Which both I think will be standard size, so you know, we'll just need enough room for that and some trim.

[6:17] The trim details inside are quite big, and we're going to keep those trim details, so the windows will be as big as they can.

[6:24] but it's sort of real simple, bungalow style.

[6:27] We were going to sort of just let the front be kind of interesting.

[6:31] And we keep the side pretty basic and functional.

[6:37] Here's the floor plan, which was kind of cool.

[6:39] Kind of tricky to see, but this is the porch.

[6:42] This is the out kitchen.

[6:44] If you can see that, that's actually an outhouse.

[6:46] The dining room.

[6:50] And then here's the kitchen, sort of facing the street.

[6:52] There wasn't a driveway here, so this has been modified over time, those like big fences.

[7:00] And then this is a, I didn't realize how bad this scan was.

[7:03] So I did not think you care about the inside, but I'm going to show you anyway.

[7:08] So this is sort of the new floor plan.

[7:11] And if you can see, we have the mudroom here with the window.

[7:15] And this is really, we're trying to open everything up for,

[7:18] I'd have the primary bedroom on the first floor as the new client is she's in her late 70s.

[7:25] So we want to we want to make things accessible with wide hallways a little bit bigger doors.

[7:30] And so this was sort of the most logical spot for the kitchen.

[7:35] And like I said, we're really tight with a fridge and a range here.

[7:39] So as soon as they pick those, we'll have the windows be as big as they can be.

[7:46] Yep.

[7:49] This is the front right here. Yep. So these are these those two windows and then

[7:55] this is the side.

[8:00] Yep.

[8:03] I'm not changing the front. Nothing on the front. No. Nope. The front

[8:07] will stay exactly the same and that's the side.

[8:12] Yep.

[8:25] Or the side. Yep. East.

[8:36] Looks good. It was hard

[8:37] to see what the dumpster there. Yeah. Yeah.

[8:53] I think it's really great. It really goes with

[8:56] house, everything you're doing. My only common is I know on that proposed

[9:00] elevation where you have the kitchen windows with the shutters. I imagine

[9:05] you're doing shutters everywhere because so matches. But on those windows a

[9:11] big one that you were talking about the shutters just look a little bit funky

[9:16] because they look out of scale with the actual size of the window. Like if you would

[9:20] close them which you probably won't close these shutters are just decorative. It's not

[9:25] I'm going to close the whole window.

[9:28] So I agree, but out front, I just sort of didn't answer anything.

[9:33] And they're even worse, but they're original.

[9:35] OK, so that's why I was like, they clearly don't shut here.

[9:38] I mean, I could go either way, shutters are.

[9:40] I typically agree, and I never do them unless they actually

[9:43] close.

[9:43] But I was like, this front elevation is so interesting.

[9:48] So I said, you know what, if you did it out front,

[9:50] I can do it on the side.

[9:52] But it's, you know, we can, you know,

[9:54] They are expensive, those are timberly and historic lines.

[9:59] So I agree with you.

[10:00] I typically never do that, but I did, in this case, I just wanted to throw it out, I 100% agree with

[10:06] it, but I do look great. Yeah, it's, I mean, I'm the Bill Coddorstein.

[10:11] Bill Coddor is going to say, whether we paint it white, I'm not sure. The basements completely

[10:18] unfinished, still stand finished, but I think in terms of access for, you know, any work

[10:23] that needs to be done now there, we'll keep it.

[10:32] Yeah, so there was quite a bit of landscaping.

[10:34] There's, you know it, it's like the Brown House, I'm in the, there was a ton of landscaping,

[10:40] overgrown, that is, it's now down, it's actually very pretty,

[10:47] not at this time, no.

[10:51] Sorry, no, my mic on that whole time. I just had this. Did you say the architect was Boyd?

[10:57] Boyd. Okay. Yeah, Nick, David, Nick or Bakker Boyd.

[11:00] He's the architect of my house. He is, yeah, that's really cool.

[11:05] Okay, okay, because you're in North Wayne, right?

[11:07] Yeah, so he did a few in South Wayne and then a lot.

[11:11] And I actually was at, I went to the historical museum

[11:13] and sat with the sky for probably too long,

[11:17] but his whole, wasn't really a sketchbook.

[11:20] It was more like just a book of his clippings.

[11:23] He did a lot in like,

[11:26] Ardmore, Brimmar, and then a lot of...

[11:29] A lot of libraries and schools.

[11:30] He did wherever, so we're Wayne Elementary

[11:32] was or where Wayne middle school is. That's where all the Wayne schools were at one time and he did some of those.

[11:39] Yeah, it was pretty, it was pretty cool. Great. Let's see, do I have a motion here to

[11:45] for a certificate of appropriateness? Yeah, motion approved. Second, second, second. Second.

[11:52] All right. Well, I'll agree. Say aye. All right. All right. That's great.

[11:57] Thank you so much.

[11:59] Thank you.

[12:00] Thank you.

[12:02] Let's see, before we return, we'll have to say that the next hard meeting is scheduled

[12:05] for October 7th at 630 applications for the October 7th meeting must be submitted on or

[12:12] before September 22nd.

[12:15] So let's see.

[12:20] Good luck.

[12:21] Thank you.

[12:23] Thank you.

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