[0:11] Call the meeting of the Randolph-town council September 9, 2019 to order. We'll start with a roll call. Here. Council of Christos, all exopolis. Council of William, all exopolis. Council of Burgess. Council of Clourder. Council of Clifton. Here. Council of Egan. Council of Goldstein. Here. Council of Halflamon. Here. Please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance. I ask councilor Clifton to lead us this evening.

[1:14] The only announcement from the Council President, I don't want to belabor the point, but I think I'll speak for myself, and I think really the whole council, you know, we need to do a better job community.

[1:24] indicating amongst ourselves, you know, resolving some differences coming together for the good of the town.

[1:31] I know that's just a few words right now, and for words to have meaning it requires action.

[1:37] And I'm hoping my fellow colleagues will join me in that.

[1:41] And I'm sure the public will continue keeping us honest on that point.

[1:45] Motion's orders and resolutions, we have the August 12th, 2019 meeting minutes.

[1:50] Let's move

[1:53] to the second motion made in seconded discussion.

[1:59] Actually, I pulled back my second, I don't know that I was here for that meeting.

[2:04] Seconded.

[2:05] Thank you.

[2:06] Okay.

[2:09] Yes, Jim, Ryan and Chris, motion made in seconded for the discussion.

[2:14] All in favor, please say aye.

[2:16] Aye.

[2:17] Opposed?

[2:18] Abstention.

[2:19] Aye.

[2:20] All right.

[2:20] That was three abstentions.

[2:23] Yep.

[2:24] Yep.

[2:24] Counselor Egan, Councilor Burgess, Councilor Krizell, exopolis.

[2:29] We have a presentation now from environmental partners.

[2:33] They're the owner's project manager for the water treatment plant.

[2:36] We have a representative here before us if you would kindly introduce yourself or reintroduce

[2:42] yourself.

[2:49] I'm a Senior Program Manager, part of me at Environmental Partners and the Joint Water

[2:56] Board Engineer and Director for the projects that we're doing at the Randolph-Holberg Water

[3:05] Treatment Plant right now.

[3:08] What I wanted to do is just really go through this memo that I've prepared and submitted

[3:14] to you and I have copies here for people.

[3:19] I think, oh, actually before that, one of the things that I was asked to do is update

[3:24] you on the Tritown project, is that right first?

[3:28] Yes, Helen.

[3:29] If you could just, yes.

[3:30] Mr. President, last Thursday, they was a Tritown Water Board meeting with the towns of

[3:38] We met at Holbrook Town Hall around 1 o'clock, and the agenda on that was to go over the minutes of July 16th meeting the legal update on draft legislation and draft intermunicipal agreement, environmental partners update on the report of the new regional water treatment project, and then we set a new meeting date in September.

[4:09] So an update on that project, we're the only project manager for the three communities

[4:16] under the Tritown Board of Water Commissioners.

[4:20] And right now, as the project stands, we went out for requests for qualifications, for

[4:27] a designer and we received qualifications from two design firms, AECOM and CDM Smith.

[4:39] They're both very qualified.

[4:41] They both have local, New England experience, as well as national and international experience.

[4:51] So they really represent the best of the best in the industry.

[4:56] We will be having interviews on September 26 for them.

[5:01] The process is such that we did a review of the qualifications to ensure that they meet

[5:08] the minimum requirements, and those reviews were done by the selection committee that

[5:17] was put together under the direction of the Tritown Board of Water Commissioners to representatives

[5:25] from each of the communities are on the selection committee.

[5:30] The next step being the interviews on September 26th,

[5:33] there'll be two, one at one o'clock

[5:35] and one at around two to 30 depending on

[5:39] how the process moves ahead.

[5:41] Take some time to set up and break down after interviews.

[5:46] So it won't be exactly at that particular time.

[5:49] But between one and one 30 will be doing those interviews

[5:52] and then subsequently to that, the board will vote on who they want to move forward with

[6:00] for the design and the design will start on the new regional water treatment plant.

[6:07] The schedule for that is such that we're trying to move ahead as quickly as possible.

[6:13] The goal is to start construction as soon as possible, maybe breaking ground late 2000, early 2000,

[6:28] 2021, and it will be about a two or three year project.

[6:34] So it's going to take some time.

[6:35] Can you back up in the design phase for a second?

[6:38] Traditionally, we hear, you know, hey, a plane is at 50%, 25, 50, 25, those are all different

[6:45] thresholds before we get more funding or whatever.

[6:48] Do we have to, are we sticking to that type of a timeline in how the thresholds were supposed

[6:54] to meet and how is that going to work for us?

[6:58] Okay.

[6:58] So, basically, if I might probe that question a little more and make sure I understand you all's referring to funding through the SRF program?

[7:11] I'm talking generally, any type of funding, but what has happened to us in the past, I believe, when I thought we were out for a design, then all of a sudden now we have to go back because we had to re-advertise and everything else.

[7:25] So I wanted to know what those thresholds are.

[7:27] So we are keeping everyone honest

[7:29] and making sure we're meeting them.

[7:31] Exactly, okay.

[7:32] So the way the design will proceed is currently

[7:35] we have a conceptual design,

[7:37] which is considered about 25%.

[7:40] And that's what environmental partners put together.

[7:42] So the first step will be to review that

[7:45] with the design entity and have them come up

[7:50] with a 30, 40% design.

[7:54] Is that the revised version, the tone down version?

[8:00] The conceptual one that we have is the smaller version of the layout, yes.

[8:06] And we will be continuing to hone that design to try to save on construction costs as much as possible.

[8:17] So we'll be working with the designers to do even more.

[8:20] Now, once we start getting into the details of the design, we'll be able to do that.

[8:25] And that's one of the questions actually we have on the qualification-based selection

[8:31] process for these two potential designers is, do they have any ideas right now that they're

[8:38] thinking about that could save us some more money?

[8:41] So we'll be pushing on that.

[8:44] And at every step of these phases that I'm going to speak to, the percentages, the

[8:50] The UNO project manager will do a review and we'll also be doing an updated cost estimate

[8:55] at all the stages.

[8:57] So we'll be tracking very closely what's going on with the potential costs of the project.

[9:03] And what is your obligation to, I know your obligation would be to the Tritown.

[9:09] What is your obligation to us, Brain Tree, Holbrook?

[9:15] And it was Billy says, hi, come on down and talk to us.

[9:18] Do you have any obligation to talk to us?

[9:20] So my obligation under the contract is that throughout the project we will be involved

[9:26] with communication and public participation.

[9:30] My goal as the senior project manager on the job for the OPM would be to be giving you monthly updates

[9:38] on what the status of the project is.

[9:41] So you will be getting them at least at a minimum in writing and I would certainly be available to come

[9:48] to a monthly meeting to give you an update on what's going on with the project.

[9:51] So those updates are going to be forwarded to the nine of us as well as the representatives

[9:55] of the tri-town.

[9:56] That's correct.

[9:57] Excellent.

[9:57] Thank you.

[9:58] Yes, Councillor Goldstein.

[9:59] I have an outside question.

[10:02] I got from our attorney today the proposal of changing the ownership of the tri-town board

[10:08] and creating a new type of entity.

[10:10] Are you aware of that?

[10:12] I'm aware of that.

[10:13] Yes.

[10:13] Does that have any effect on what's going on or anything?

[10:16] So one of the things that has to occur in order for the project to move forward is that

[10:26] the 18, I think, 1882-ish legislation that was passed that created the ability for

[10:36] the three communities to enter into various agreements to manage the water supply has

[10:42] has to be amended to create a tritown entity that will operate the treatment facility,

[10:53] which would include the treatment plant, the pumps for brain trade, the pumps for Randolph

[10:59] Holbrooke and the transmission main that go to Randolph and Holbrooke.

[11:03] So that would be what the infrastructure would be that would be managed through that entity.

[11:08] And that entity needs to be updated.

[11:12] And...

[11:14] A whole book has the town meeting form of government.

[11:18] Correct.

[11:18] And I understand that's not going to be until...

[11:21] November.

[11:22] The spring.

[11:22] November.

[11:23] The only special either.

[11:25] All right.

[11:26] So with that effect, you know, since November...

[11:29] Since whole book is going to do anything for a couple of months, that wouldn't affect us.

[11:33] So all three communities have already appropriated funds.

[11:39] to move ahead with the project at the time, the engineering company that did the construction

[11:46] estimate was it was in 2010 and it was about 50 million and I know all three communities

[11:52] went to town meeting and improved those funds. So there's funds there to do the design,

[11:58] to move ahead with the design, to move ahead with the permitting and so the town meeting would

[12:04] be to appropriate the remainder of the funds that would be needed for the construction

[12:10] of the project.

[12:11] All right.

[12:11] So there's not an issue that we originally approved it for entity A and is now going

[12:17] to be entity B.

[12:18] No.

[12:19] Okay.

[12:20] No.

[12:22] Please continue.

[12:23] Okay.

[12:24] So following the decision of the board on the vote, we will then go into negotiation for

[12:34] for a scope of work and a fee for the designer and the plan is to try to get that done within

[12:46] a month or so.

[12:47] So they would be starting design early November.

[12:52] And

[12:57] then we would have a 60% and 90% and 100% deliverables at each of those junctures we would have.

[13:11] 90, 100?

[13:12] Yep, we would have a review by the owner project manager.

[13:19] It would be a technical team, we do a value engineering associated with that.

[13:25] and then we would move forward to the next step.

[13:28] During that period we'll be doing permitting as well.

[13:31] There's a number of permits that are required

[13:33] for this project.

[13:34] I will share with you that we did move forward

[13:37] with the next phase of the historical work

[13:42] that we had to do investigative work on the project site

[13:45] and we determined that there's no further work

[13:48] that is needed and there won't be any hold-ups

[13:52] from that perspective so that permit will be finalized shortly and we'll be moving ahead.

[14:00] Conservation Commission and other permits really have to wait until we get to the next

[14:05] stage of the design so we can meet in front of the various boards and committees to present

[14:12] what is being proposed.

[14:14] I think.

[14:16] Let me be oversimplified.

[14:20] All this money we're spending.

[14:21] We're not going to get more water.

[14:24] We'll just handle our water more efficiently.

[14:27] What you will get is currently all the communities are limited

[14:32] on what you can withdraw based on a withdrawal permit with the state.

[14:37] So that is a standing permit with a state and that would not change.

[14:44] So that means we don't get any more water?

[14:47] You would, the size of the facility is a 12 and a half MGD treatment plant.

[14:53] Is that a yes?

[14:55] So when you say more water, could you be more specific?

[14:59] How are we gonna be a-

[15:00] There's a lot of a water bend, dances no, because we're not dredging, we're not dredging, we're not going to be adding additional capacity. But it will get rid of the cloudy water. Hopefully, we'll get rid of the brown water and not throwing it off. Hopefully, we'll be able to have this standard pressure that we're, we're used to. What is like guarantee, right? Sorry.

[15:21] Yes, I'm sorry. So let me, let me finish. So in terms of additional water, no, in terms of

[15:31] So I just want to be specific right now,

[15:38] there's two different definitions of quality.

[15:42] So in meeting state requirements in terms of bacterial and contaminants and so forth,

[15:50] you're still meeting all the requirements of the state.

[15:53] So there's that part of the quality of water.

[15:57] I know that the community has had some major challenges with how the water looks and the

[16:05] challenges with low pressures.

[16:08] And that's what will certainly change.

[16:11] And frankly, the low pressures should change with the upgrades that we're doing now at

[16:17] the existing Randolph-Holbert treatment plan.

[16:22] The challenge we have as I had presented the first time I met with a council is that you're

[16:28] dealing with a very old treatment facility and we're just trying to keep it going until

[16:35] such time as you have a new one and it is a challenge.

[16:40] So Mr. Brighton, so you're telling me it's okay for me to tell my constituents even though

[16:46] So the water is well and you can drink it, you can do whatever with it.

[16:51] It is, the quality of the water is safe to drink.

[16:55] Even being well, would you tell them to put the water, the electrons.

[17:01] So my recommendation would be flush the water until it's clear.

[17:06] And then drink the drinking part of it.

[17:11] Or you could install a point filter.

[17:16] And I think so many, it's not that good quality, of a good quality.

[17:22] Because the water coming out of the treatment plant, actually the turbidity and the quality

[17:27] of the water coming out of the treatment plant is meeting the standard.

[17:31] It's the pipes in the distribution system that are having the challenge and the changes

[17:38] and pressures that move the water back and forth in the distribution system so it stirs

[17:48] up all this old sediment that hasn't been moved for years.

[17:54] So meaning, if I'm not mistaken, the water from the plant is good up until it travels to

[18:02] to the pipe, to my house, then it's not good anymore, right?

[18:06] Now it's compromised.

[18:08] Now it's compromised.

[18:09] I'm trying to understand.

[18:11] Not the quality of the water, the taste, odor, and the look of the water.

[18:16] Brein, you have something?

[18:18] Brein, I just want to have a little bit of.

[18:21] It used word clarity, considering the issue with having, in some cases, with the water.

[18:25] But when there are two instances when people tend to see, well, three, when you may in fact see brown-brown water sediment,

[18:39] it's A, it's the fire in the neighborhood, B, if there's a lot of main break, that's usually contained within that area,

[18:48] but it can go as far as out as three or four streets.

[18:51] Or, as we've seen since April, the instances when the pressure drops at the treatment plant,

[18:59] and then when it starts back up, if you will, it kicks up some sediment that's there,

[19:04] and then until individuals in a neighborhood, from sense of purposes, turn on the water

[19:12] in their home, it helps then clear it up.

[19:15] And it can depend if you're on a dead end street, because we have a lot of dead end water mains takes a little bit longer to clear up issues like that.

[19:27] We've had more of those as we know over the past since April because we had the initial issue with the pump.

[19:33] And I know this next letter that she's going to speak to will go to the issue that we had back in April.

[19:39] And then we had the issues of the backup pumps that were borrowed from the MWRA.

[19:46] But then when we had to disconnect from the system and give it back to them.

[19:49] Again, pressures drop, go back up, kicks up the system for a few hours for people in those neighborhoods.

[19:55] And then we've had three or four instances where we had to make additional changes down there.

[20:04] but again, kicked up the sediment in those neighborhoods.

[20:08] It is obviously our hope and in our anticipation that once we have the new pump installed,

[20:18] we will have two backup pumps at that point, but the most important part is we're going to have a consistent brand new pump

[20:26] that the issues that we were confronting, because we didn't hear about the issue of sediment until April.

[20:31] So, now that said, and it was mentioned already, is once we have the certified water

[20:42] attenings in play, and I know what we have, I'm hoping to, during this time frame, we've

[20:49] done kind of moderated versions of hydroflushings.

[20:54] But we're going to do a much larger version of that once we have retained earnings, and

[21:00] And I know what what we can do financially to accomplish that.

[21:06] And it's a very specific process, you don't just go around town opening up the fire hydrants, you don't open up all the fire hydrants.

[21:14] It's an engineered plan that was done a number of years ago, and it speaks to exactly the flow of the water from the plant.

[21:23] And when we have that in place, it will go a long way to helping when the pressure drops and then comes back up.

[21:32] There'll be less sediment to potentially kick into play.

[21:36] So, it's, I get the, you know, black up a better word, the bubbly water at my house.

[21:47] It's very rare in South Randolph that I see any brown water except for a fire and or

[21:53] a water main break.

[21:55] But there are definitely some areas in North Randolph and it's the rust street neighborhood

[22:00] up North Maine.

[22:01] Then you shoot down to the side streets, I'm a line, Pauline, et cetera.

[22:04] Yeah, we have a restaurant down there that's been quite a bit of money on filters.

[22:08] They have, and it's seen firsthand the system for residents who have their own filtration systems.

[22:19] Clearly, there's changing those a lot more frequently than they would hope to, to have the water come out completely clear even when we're having some of those sediment issues.

[22:33] So the short answer is it will, we believe, between the new pump and some management on

[22:47] our end, I think we're going to have this much better situation for the residents and

[22:53] the business.

[22:55] The air that gets in the system, and I'll let you speak to this much better than I, the

[23:01] The air that gets in the system is a little bit different that causes, you know, the bubbly water that literally, like in my house, within 25 seconds, my water is clear, if I pour it into glass.

[23:13] But I'll let her speak to the issues in revolving, involving the air getting into the system.

[23:21] And just one point of clarification, Brian, if you could, are Helen.

[23:26] Councillor Clujay asked, you know, is the water going through, coming through the

[23:30] treatment plant, you know, safe to drink and whatnot? And I think we've expounded and

[23:34] explained that as well. But where does this sediment come from for the people?

[23:39] It comes from, it's in every single minerals in the water?

[23:43] Yeah, I mean, it's in the water.

[23:45] It's the pipe.

[23:46] On the pipes?

[23:47] Yeah, pipe.

[23:47] So, basically, it's deposits in the pipe from minerals in the water.

[23:52] And what happens over time is it does tend to leach out of, it's a standard chemical

[24:02] process that happens in all water supply systems.

[24:07] To a certain extent, to a calculation, some of Randolph did go through some process

[24:15] of cleaning and lining their pipes and in those areas there's less. With that said

[24:22] even a pipe that has cementitious lining on it can have some sediment and it

[24:28] particularly if it's a dead end pipe and historically water is just flowing in

[24:34] one direction. So you're going to get sediment and as soon as it starts flowing in

[24:39] another direction that sediment gets picked up and then when you turn on your

[24:44] water, it comes through the service connection and out the pipe. So my

[24:49] recommendation right now is before you use your water to turn it on and let it

[24:55] run until you see it's clear and then drink it. And do it with cold water. Yes, and

[25:02] deal with cold water. Yeah. All right. I think you were going to talk about the

[25:07] cloudy water next. So the cloudy water is, it's air and

[25:11] treatment in the water system. So it's not anything to do with quality, it's not a contaminant.

[25:20] Air and treatment gets into the system with all these changes that are occurring at the treatment plant.

[25:27] So again, the changes in pressures, the pumps being shut off and on right now, if you may recall,

[25:34] When I came in June, we talked about the first phase of the work that consisted of adding a new rebuilt motor to one of your finished water pumps.

[25:48] I don't want to interrupt you, but so we're trying not to confuse to try to try town treatment plant with the joint treatment plant, which is another issue.

[25:59] Can we kind of try to keep them separate?

[26:01] I know the cloudy water is on the joint and that's why we're trying to you know

[26:07] because it's going to cost us $0.2 million and so somewhere in that range so if

[26:12] we can kind of try to keep that as one issue and then the joint thing is

[26:16] separate. Right so getting back to Tritown then. Thank you. You know I'll come

[26:21] because they're getting back to Triton.

[26:24] We will have 100% after that point we'll go out to bid.

[26:32] There'll be a bid process that we follow

[26:34] according to chapter 149 requirements by the state.

[26:39] And we'll get bids.

[26:43] 100% gets us construction drawings.

[26:46] Correct.

[26:46] 100% gets us construction drawings.

[26:49] and the 80% is what we submit to the state for the state revolving loan fund process,

[26:56] for them to approve the design and approve the funding for the project.

[27:03] And then they give approval to move ahead with the final design.

[27:09] And then we have to go through a process of getting approval from them to bid the project.

[27:14] It's pretty standard and we do this. I've worked on many, many projects that are state funded and it's a standard process that we go through.

[27:23] Something we just put question. Thank you. You say you're starting design early November of 2020?

[27:33] We're starting design in early November of 2019.

[27:37] 19.

[27:38] Excellent.

[27:39] Okay.

[27:40] On the Tritown.

[27:41] Yep.

[27:43] We have heard in the past previous superintendent, sometimes we would talk about a stand pipe on our end to that extra pressure, I guess, the system.

[27:53] And then we were told, no, we don't need a stand pipe.

[27:57] When is that decision made?

[28:01] Okay.

[28:01] Okay, so this is right down, this is right down, because once we get the new pipe in its question,

[28:10] do we need the pressure on our end to keep on pushing it through?

[28:13] So, you do not, I

[28:20] want to say two or three years ago when it was before, I apologize,

[28:23] I don't know the exact date it was before I came to environmental partners.

[28:27] Environmental partners did a war distribution analysis of all three communities and

[28:34] And looked at the water storage.

[28:38] Any water storage for the community would be located within the distribution system and is separate from the Tritown treatment plant.

[28:49] So we're going to be pumping from the treatment plant into the Randolph-Holberg distribution system.

[28:56] So you'll have pressure that you need.

[28:59] Do you need to increase your storage capacity in the distribution system?

[29:05] We had put together, I believe, a capital program for the various communities to look at that issue.

[29:12] I would have to go back and look at what that included.

[29:17] I don't have it off the top of my head, so I really don't want to just tell you something that's not necessarily the case.

[29:24] I'd be more than happy to get that clarification for you, however.

[29:27] If you could but by virtue of building a new treatment plant, we don't need a new stand pipe because of that treatment plant.

[29:33] No, you'll get the pressure you need from the treatment plant.

[29:36] The way we're proposing the design is that the Randolph-Holberg will have dedicated pumps within the treatment plant specifically for the two communities.

[29:47] and including the ability to add appropriate treatment chemicals depending on the need

[29:56] of the various communities.

[29:58] So if you need a different type.

[30:00] Or whatever reason? Eventually, we're going to go all to the same type, though, right? We're going to, we're not, you'll go to the same type, but the dosing rates may be different depending on the time that it takes to get from the treatment plan to the distribution system. And that's being, we're connecting to what 24-inch line on, and no AF, is that how we're going to connect to the system? You will connect up to the existing 24-inch transmission main. That's correct.

[30:29] the proposal right now. And again, we have a designer that we're going to be

[30:34] bringing on board. And if they have a recommendation that's more cost-effective,

[30:40] we'll certainly entertain that and look at that. But right now, as it stands,

[30:45] we're looking at redundant pipes that are what we call sub-aqueous across the pond.

[30:51] So we don't have to travel a longer distance and also go through wetlands and

[30:56] and so forth, so we can just put that in.

[30:58] They sit in the bottom.

[30:59] Yes.

[31:03] Thank you.

[31:04] So, depending on, again, I think as the project progresses,

[31:13] we'll be giving monthly updates to you.

[31:20] The, and there will be, the plan right now

[31:22] is that there will be, right now, Tritown website,

[31:26] I believe the Tritown things are put

[31:28] on the brentree is housed on the brentree website and we'll be updating, we'll have project

[31:33] updates on that website as the project continues.

[31:38] Can we get those linked to ours, to our website as well, Helen?

[31:44] Councillor Clujer.

[31:45] Thank you, Mr. President.

[31:47] Mrs. Allen, from start to finish, how long do you think the process is going to last?

[31:52] If we can fast track it, the hope would be that we bring it, we have start up by 20, 23.

[32:04] That will wait four years to get a bit of, well, yeah, so 2019 is almost over so, unfortunately, the construction itself is a two year project.

[32:16] So just the construction of this facility would take two years, and that's, you know, with everything.

[32:23] the star is aligned, and no hiccups with weather, with.

[32:31] That's what I was just going to say, no weather with, with all kinds of problems.

[32:35] With permitting and so forth, right?

[32:50] And on the permits to build the plant, obviously, the State EPA permit, a DEP permit.

[32:57] Is there, are there federal permits?

[32:59] So there is an Army Corps of Engineers permit for two reasons, one for the Sub-Aqueous, and then also because we'll be doing some work around the intake structure as well, which is right along the pawn's edge, and that requires a Corps of Engineers.

[33:20] and then that also requires a 401 more equality permit.

[33:25] There will be a MEPA requirement, we're hoping an E&F only, not an EIR.

[33:33] An EIR would take longer.

[33:36] We're putting the treatment facility on a new site.

[33:41] However, it's right next to an existing site that's already been altered.

[33:47] so we're hoping that the ENF process will be enough.

[33:54] Let's see, Conservation Commission only for, well, for both Randolph and Branchary Randolph,

[34:02] so we can hook up the Savagrius transmission mains to the transmission main on the Randolph

[34:14] time property.

[34:17] Let's see and a number of other smaller ones. I think the

[34:22] residents you know watching here and at home tonight are you know curious if

[34:26] there are any more things they should know about water quality going forward in the

[34:30] short term. Do you have anything else that you'd like to add? So water quality in

[34:35] the short term I would say we are getting we've started on the second phase of the

[34:41] work which is the bigger project. We are going to be replacing the entire

[34:48] electric system and you will have a new fish water pump 3 motor pump. That will

[34:58] be a more reliable pump and it will be connected up to a brand new electric

[35:02] system and at that point we're hopeful that that will resolve the air and

[35:10] treatment problems and the changes in pressures and that your pressures will be back up to

[35:16] where they need to be in that associated with a flushing program that the town is going

[35:23] to do within the distribution system is the goal to resolve those challenges.

[35:31] Have we fixed the leak in the roof over the electrical system before we fix the electrical

[35:37] system?

[35:41] So right now there's no leaks in the roof, so it's been fixed.

[35:48] Anything else from the council?

[35:52] How are you going to talk about the air in the system?

[35:57] So the air entrainment has been from pumps being turned on and off and vows being installed during the process of some of the upgrades.

[36:06] So, as air and treatment gets in, it has to work its way through the system and be expelled.

[36:12] Right, so that's when they open a pipe and the water leaks out and then it just fills

[36:17] with air until you flush it completely out of the system.

[36:20] Right, so if you do have that, again, your best option is to let the water run till it's

[36:27] clear and then that should resolve it.

[36:30] And then when, when are we looking at pump three being put back on the line?

[36:38] Yeah, so that's certainly the bigger challenge.

[36:41] One of the things that is the problem is these pumps don't come off the shelf.

[36:48] They have to be built and they're very large pumps.

[36:51] And the delivery date currently is December for the pump.

[36:57] All the electric should be done by October, and we should begin to be transferring some of the other equipment over to the electric system.

[37:08] So, are the residents going to see a disruption in service when this pump is?

[37:13] That was my question.

[37:14] That was going to be my question.

[37:16] And put back into it.

[37:18] So we have, currently we have pump four online

[37:25] and then we'll be bringing pump three online.

[37:28] And we also have a rental emergency backup pump.

[37:34] If we're able to bring pump three on with O between now

[37:41] and then having any challenges with pump with the pump

[37:44] and motor four, we shouldn't see any major problems.

[37:49] And that changeover would be done in the evening in night hours.

[37:55] And I will assure you that the contractor is working extra hours as well as need be to make sure that the project gets fast tracked as much as possible.

[38:08] So the goal is that there won't be, I cannot promise that.

[38:12] And what is the time frame on the replacement of that pump December and how long does that take to do two days day we

[38:21] Set up and so forth and start up a couple of days

[38:26] It'll be installed and then it's really the startup will be a couple of days just to make sure that it's operational

[38:32] Can we try to schedule that and Brian can look at this?

[38:38] Even though it may be over night hours

[38:40] you know the day of the week that we're looking at as far as businesses and

[38:46] everything else that can that can certainly be at the discretion of the

[38:50] community absolutely so when we get closer to that counselor why don't I

[38:58] can certainly work with yeah I mean he'll know and make sure that it's the the

[39:04] appropriate time and day to make sure that the least destruction possible yeah

[39:09] If it goes bad, we'd prefer it to go bad on a time that's not.

[39:15] We'll make sure that gets coordinated.

[39:16] People are trying to get it for work.

[39:18] My last question, thank you, Mr. President.

[39:20] If at any time, you know, some issues had to happen.

[39:25] Do you have a plan to notify the public even if it's overnight right away?

[39:31] What is the plan to let them know?

[39:32] Because we don't want any chaos, any panic in the community anymore.

[39:38] So we work with all excuse me can you can you predict something is going to happen and send out with a notice and so wait until so what we can do.

[39:53] Councilwoman is as a major event is going to occur under the construction.

[40:02] We could let Mr. Howard and the DPW Director know that we send out a notice to the community and say, okay, we're making this change in the treatment plan.

[40:17] In case there could be a potential for-

[40:20] Wonderful.

[40:20] Yes, that's what I wanted to thank you.

[40:32] That's what we're using right now, that's correct, yes.

[40:33] The last thing says a permanent bypass piping connection for emergency backup system will be in place.

[40:39] That's already in place, actually.

[40:41] Is that, is that what we're using the temporary pump?

[40:44] That's what we're using right now, that's correct, yes.

[40:46] And that will remain in place in the event that we have any other problems.

[40:51] Now, let me ask you a question.

[40:54] And is required by MAST-TEP as well?

[40:58] Okay. Let me ask a question.

[41:00] With the new treatment plant that will be built.

[41:03] Yes.

[41:04] Will there be like a cross-connection between

[41:08] brain trees, pumps, and Randolph's pumps?

[41:12] For example, if something happens to the pumps that Randolph and Holbrooke are using,

[41:16] will there be a connection that we could get water from the other set of pumps?

[41:21] How does that work?

[41:23] So how it works is currently right now the distribution systems are at different elevations.

[41:31] So the actual pumps that are being used have different heads.

[41:36] There will be redundant pumps for both communities.

[41:39] Oh, they will.

[41:40] Yes.

[41:40] Okay.

[41:41] There has to be, it's required by mass DEP that all construction of water treatment facilities

[41:48] have a redundancy, and that redundancy has to be available, so it will be there.

[41:58] Thank you.

[41:59] Thank you for being here with us tonight.

[42:01] Anything else?

[42:02] Brian?

[42:02] No, just real quickly, I think it was part of the conversation, but I do think it's an important

[42:09] part, is that the pump, which we were hoping would be in place and operational by mid to late

[42:17] October, as you see here, is looking now to be mid to late December.

[42:23] So I just think it's important that the public understands that there is a time shift there.

[42:30] Knock on wood, if all the other work that's been done down there continues in the fashion.

[42:37] That it has that the backup pumps that are being used currently, we won't have those changes in pressure that kick up the settlement.

[42:46] But I did want to note that there is a shift of give or take six weeks, based on the design and the manufacturer building the pump to that design.

[42:57] So I think it's important to just put that out there that there is give or take about a six week delay from when we last met on this back and was it late May early.

[43:10] Right, right.

[43:11] So in the reason behind that is what happened is the contractor was signed up for the work and then put in a purchase order for the pump and then the manufacturing.

[43:24] That's when the manufacturing company indicates what their own guarantee for delivery.

[43:34] And that's the quickest they could get it.

[43:39] Brian, I've had several people ask me this question, maybe you're probably better able

[43:46] to answer this.

[43:49] Residents think that there's a DPW water individual down at the water treatment plant that works

[43:56] for Randolph and one that works for Fulbrook.

[44:00] Can you explain how that works, how that works, that it's a separate entity?

[44:11] I mean, I've had times that Keith and members of our Water Department assist.

[44:16] Yeah, absolutely.

[44:18] Because they're a great resource, but it's a different union, it's a different operation, it is totally, totally separate.

[44:27] It's a self, how do you, how do you categorize it?

[44:32] Well, for all the sense of purposes, and I'll use the term assessment, but

[44:35] you know, the joint, the joint water board comes up with what the budget is necessary.

[44:40] And then we get assessed that, and then through water and rates we pay our portion of that assessment.

[44:47] So it's a different company, really, that, or a different part of government that controls

[44:53] that a lot of distribution.

[44:56] And again, this gets back into some of the issues of the old.

[45:00] There's a language from 1888, where you have a representative from Randolph, you have a representative from Holbrook, and it's a separate entity, but yet there is a lot of intermingling in the sense that the people that operate that, you know, our DPW superintendent is on that, as is the town administrator in Holbrook. So it's a separate entity, but it's very strongly connected.

[45:28] What is our ability to audit those books?

[45:35] Free, Mr. President, I think we can just ask for information in conversations that

[45:40] we've had recently at the joint board meetings with Town Hallbrook's accountant is that

[45:46] on a quarterly basis, we would get a detail of the expenses.

[45:52] So I do receive that.

[45:53] But upon requests, we should be able to obtain it.

[45:56] Are we sure, how sure are we, that what we're getting and what we're paying for is,

[46:05] if they put on a bill about your ex-feet of pipe, who checks that?

[46:13] Who checks to make sure that's actually a joint water board expense as opposed to a ton of whole work expense?

[46:21] That should be the joint water board.

[46:23] I mean, Keith, he can better speak to you.

[46:26] When they're going through the process of paying their vendors,

[46:31] their bills, a role, there's an opportunity for them to review that.

[46:37] And if there's a discrepancy, there should be a discussion based upon that.

[46:42] So I'll ask the question again.

[46:44] Sure.

[46:45] How is our, what is our ability to audit those books?

[46:51] Do we have a statutory bill?

[46:52] So we have a statutory ability for the Council to audit us, we have to audit annually.

[46:57] It's in the charter.

[46:59] I don't, it's Holbrook, it's Holbrook's finances, finance books.

[47:04] It's not a separate account, it's the Holbrook ledger, correct?

[47:07] I believe it's a sub ledger on their account.

[47:10] So when they submit balance sheets to Department of Revenue, just like we do, that's part of their operation.

[47:18] So it is looked at, I mean, I think we can request it.

[47:22] more than quarterly if the council would like me to and I can review with the DPW director

[47:27] and anything we feel that is questionable and we go to a joint board meeting and I can

[47:32] ask the question and you know get further explanation.

[47:36] I think the retained earnings does get certified from Department of Revenue so that is a public

[47:41] number.

[47:42] I think at some point if we're not obtaining information voluntarily it would be a public

[47:48] public records of requests, but I think with their town account now formed a relationship

[47:53] that we should be able to get it without much trouble.

[47:57] I think more recently, our relationship is more productive of getting things done than

[48:06] it has been in the past.

[48:08] And I'm concerned that what has been in the past may have caused us some more concerns.

[48:14] Let me hear that.

[48:15] That's why we just buy it again.

[48:16] I think we can continue these discussions at a future time, Jim.

[48:21] I think most of this was so the residents could hear about the water quality and this going forward.

[48:26] Not necessarily the financials or personnel matters, but thank you for raising this point.

[48:30] I think it's important to make sure that what we are spending the taxpayers' money on is actually what the taxpayer

[48:37] of Randolph actually owes, that we're not being charged something else, especially when it's costing us a lot of money.

[48:45] So I think it's relevant.

[48:46] Thank you for being here, Helen, and have a wonderful rest of your evening.

[48:51] Thank you very much, thank you very much.

[48:57] Next item up, Tia, I want to come forward.

[49:02] We have the superintendent before us for a discussion on use of bid savings,

[49:07] bid saving funds for needed repairs at the Dunnevin and young elementary schools.

[49:11] And I'll just say off the bat that this would not be something we'll be voting on this evening.

[49:17] Do we have what you've sent printed?

[49:21] Well, I'm not sure which document was sent to the Councilor, so I'm not sure which document you're referring to.

[49:28] I will say that, and we can double check what that is, certainly.

[49:35] Okay, so I wasn't in the email.

[49:37] I sent an email, but I did not send the follow-up documentation.

[49:39] I'll explain it in a minute, but I'll look at it.

[49:41] And that's why tonight, there will be no votes asked for tonight.

[49:47] Basically, the council authorized funds to be used for

[49:53] those two projects, between bid savings, construction savings, and

[49:58] contingency savings that is give or take $2.3 million that's available.

[50:04] The superintendent would like to use a portion of that money on projects that are

[50:11] not specifically project related or incidental costs, so there are two different things that we're going to talk about at the next meeting.

[50:20] One of them is the issue of the air conditioning units that are present in the nurses, and this is both the lions, I mean sorry, the Dunnevin and the young is there are certain classrooms for students with IEPs,

[50:40] related issues that there are air-conditioning requirements, there's air-conditioning

[50:44] requirements certainly in the nurses office, and then the administration offices are used

[50:48] throughout the summer, so those have always been provided with air-conditioning.

[50:53] Those were not factored into the original project, so there were some costs involved in that.

[50:58] However, that could be handled through what are called bid savings, meaning that

[51:04] in talking to our financial advisors that would be seen as a project related or

[51:09] incidental cost, so that's one issue.

[51:14] There's a separate discussion where the bid savings that we spoke about,

[51:21] there is an opportunity to do some work at the Dunnevin School in particular,

[51:26] and the majority of those costs, which is about $300,000, if you would have choose to do

[51:33] the replacement of the heating system that heats specifically the cafeteria and the gymnasium.

[51:40] It's about 60 years old, so the superintendent reached out to myself and the president

[51:46] and asked for compensation to be had on that.

[51:49] But we feel talking with our financial advisors that we would have to advertise it and treat

[51:54] it as we would one of our capital projects as a separate vote.

[51:57] But it would be no greater than it would be still a savings over the original project costs but it's not tied specifically to that project.

[52:09] But there was another component where for additional funds you could add an NAC component to it.

[52:18] So, before our next meeting and we brought forward a Council order to do this work, what is the appetite for, and it is, it's literally, it almost doubles the cost from about 300,000 to 600,000 to add an AC component to both the cafeteria and the gymnasium.

[52:43] Is that something that the council will entertain, the superintendent can speak better to that?

[52:48] And there's a few other smaller items that would be included in that, the kitchen exhaust fan and ventilation.

[52:54] And also their walk-in freezer has significant issues, and quite frankly, I see that as stuff we need to do.

[53:04] So those total up to about $50,000.

[53:09] So, I do think that there are some immediate needs that we should entertain.

[53:16] I think the greater conversation for the council, for us to hear about, is where they would

[53:24] stand on the issue of replacing the heat system in the gymnasium and the cafeteria.

[53:31] I would say that as we've heard with the water treatment plant, if your infrastructure

[53:37] sure continues to get older and there's only so much you can do to tweak that.

[53:43] I think there is definitely value to us doing that work at the Donovan School, but the

[53:50] greater question is, do you want to take that next step and have a location that could

[53:55] be used during the summer for other purposes if we had an emergency in town and we needed

[54:02] to have additional A-conditioned locations.

[54:06] Yeah, but that's not the same thing, right?

[54:07] Hold on, we have some people.

[54:09] What I'm saying is that the opportunity to do that would be now when you're asked to replace the heating in those two rooms.

[54:19] And if there's not enough appetite for that, we'll collectively come back with,

[54:25] with an order that reflects that.

[54:26] Councillor O'Connor.

[54:28] Councillor O'Connor.

[54:28] So with those additional items, would they be covered in the MSBA reimbursement?

[54:35] They would not.

[54:36] We don't think they would be.

[54:37] We don't think that we would get reimbursement.

[54:41] So on the plan that we currently are doing, we're doing windows, we're doing windows doors,

[54:48] boilers?

[54:49] Windows and doors.

[54:50] Boils were done.

[54:51] Boils were done before.

[54:53] So windows and doors.

[54:55] Okay.

[54:56] Okay, so do we know, so if you're saying that we have to put a separate application in, not a separate, it has to be treated completely different and can't be part of this, of this project, that we don't know that if we put this in, that we could get reimbursement from it.

[55:19] I would be very surprised if they did in fact reimbursement, can we put it in and seek for reimbursement?

[55:28] Absolutely.

[55:29] Would we receive it?

[55:31] Probably not.

[55:32] Councillor Eugen.

[55:34] Thank you, Mr. President.

[55:35] I don't mean to diverge from the specific topic.

[55:38] But is there a kind of dis-sparked, dis-compensation kind of dis-sparked in my mind?

[55:44] And sort of like what Mazbo put together for business offices is there something internally

[55:51] or an association or something that is providing assessment of our current tangible physical

[55:59] buildings, the status of them and the systems within them so we can sort of predict these

[56:06] problems before they happen.

[56:08] We know that the schools are X money years old so the systems are X money years old so do

[56:13] Do we have a report in place, excuse my ignorance for not knowing, but do we have a report in place that was done internally, externally, an assessment that is being done, can be done so we can sort of predict these things before they happen and we have to spend more money fixing them rather than preventing them.

[56:32] So, my response that would be that I don't know if there's an existing organization.

[56:38] However, the OPM and the contractors that are currently in both schools working on the

[56:43] HVAC systems have reported that the Dunnevin system, the heating system, which is 58 years

[56:51] old, is not working efficiently, which we know it gets extremely cold in the winters in both

[56:57] of those rooms, the cafeteria and the gymnasium.

[56:59] And so, with the new windows, there may be a little more efficiency, but bottom line is it's not shooting out the heat that it would need to.

[57:08] And the cost to repair that alone was $295,000.

[57:15] And then there was a conversation about adding air condition into it.

[57:19] And I thought, why would you add air condition to a 60 year old piece of equipment and invest any money in some things so that the AC works, but then the heating doesn't work.

[57:29] So, originally, when I sent the email, I had said to you that I was going to send you a follow-up document, and the reason I did not send it was they have not given me sufficient information that I would come forward to the town council with that information, so they've given me some bulk numbers, but they haven't really broken it down to say this is the cost of installation, this is the cost per unit, this is the cost, so I didn't think it made sense to bring that to the town council as I thought it would add more confusion than clear up anything.

[57:57] but I have asked for that and that's why I wanted tonight just to be a discussion to put on the table what I'm looking at so that the town council knows where what direction I'm trying to go in and then when I have further information to bring it forward to the council.

[58:12] So basically, as Brian said, and Brian kind of did my presentation, so I'm not really

[58:17] sure what I need to add to that, but basically some of the air conditioning issues that

[58:22] were that I originally been talking about are covered as incidentals as a result of the

[58:29] initial project.

[58:30] So for example, when they pulled out all the units in both of those schools to put in

[58:36] the new windows, the new windows do not accommodate air conditioning.

[58:40] In order to do it, you'd have to pull pains out of the window would actually void the contract on the brand new window, so that would not be a feasible option at all.

[58:52] So with that being said, I believe that issue has been resolved, but the bigger issue is they are not expecting the contractors are not expecting the heating system at the Donovan to last much longer.

[59:06] And so my thought is because there's a bid savings at the Dunnevin that we use that money to look at repairing the heating system or replacing the heating system with a system that would provide both AC and heat at the cost of 600, roughly $600,000 and then we would actually have two huge spaces at the Dunnevin where kids could go in extreme heat.

[59:35] And I don't know if you remember last year in September when everyone was getting calls because the schools were too hot and we were delivering ice and popsicles and water because the Donovan is pretty overcrowded and there are lots of students there would be two large spaces that would kind of accommodate that as well where they could actually do programming in those two rooms.

[59:56] So, it serves two purposes, but I also know.

[1:00:00] That what I'm asking for is a big ask. All right, we've got a log jam. Councilor Hufflermon, then Councillor Goldstein, Councillor Exopolis, Councillor Exopolis, then Councillor Eugen. No, I'll be quick. Actually, my request was only to allow the superintendent to have a piece before everyone jumped in because you did not give you an opportunity to speak before everyone else spoke. So that's all I wanted. All right, Councillor Goldstein.

[1:00:26] I mean, does the bid savings mean that we have borrowed all the money we just haven't spent it on?

[1:00:32] My understanding is that the town has a bond to borrow, I don't believe you borrowed it all.

[1:00:39] Right, we have the authorization, has they been the final borrowing now?

[1:00:42] So if we do nothing we borrow less.

[1:00:45] Right.

[1:00:46] Correct.

[1:00:48] Now, how long of time do we have before this window closes?

[1:00:55] is because my concern is that since the state is looking at the Lions, and one of the things

[1:01:01] they may look at is build a new school. I'm not sure if they will or not, but that may

[1:01:06] be an option. And then we have spent all this money to do the improvements of the Dunnevin

[1:01:13] and we find out that we don't need it for the Dunnevin because we have this Taj Mahal that

[1:01:19] I think that we built for the lion's school.

[1:01:22] So what is the time frame opportunity that we have to make a decision on this $2 million?

[1:01:28] So first let me say that whether or not we do anything at the Dunnevin, it doesn't affect

[1:01:32] the lions.

[1:01:33] So the lions will be built for an enrollment of 315, so that will not accommodate.

[1:01:38] The Dunnevin is open regardless.

[1:01:40] We just invested, I believe, $10 million into the Dunnevin with new doors and windows.

[1:01:47] So that school is going to be around for at least 25 years, that school is not going anywhere.

[1:01:52] We do know that the heating system will not last the next 25 years, so at some point

[1:01:56] we have to do something with it.

[1:01:59] The Lions actually, the chair, school committee chair, I had a Gordon and I went to MSBA today.

[1:02:06] We are, they gladly accepted our new owner's project manager, which is Douglas for the Lions

[1:02:15] elementary school project. I'm so we are now moving on to the next phase of a schematic design

[1:02:20] in creating our educational program. They did comment to our OPM today that they thought our timeline

[1:02:27] was quite aggressive and that we may need to go back to the drawing board to sort of extend our

[1:02:34] timeline for a couple of reasons. There has been a limitation on architects available because

[1:02:40] as there apparently are lots of school projects

[1:02:42] going on throughout the state.

[1:02:44] And they didn't think that we were gonna be able

[1:02:46] to secure an architect in the amount of time

[1:02:48] that it would take.

[1:02:49] So that's something we're gonna go back

[1:02:51] to the drawing board and look at.

[1:02:54] So regardless of what happens with the Lions,

[1:02:57] it doesn't fix the problem at the Dunnevin.

[1:02:59] They're two completely separate pieces.

[1:03:02] If we were combining the Dunnevin and the Lions

[1:03:04] to make one sort of mega elementary school,

[1:03:06] I would agree that we would want to wait.

[1:03:10] In terms of your answer around what is the deadline?

[1:03:14] I don't have the answer for that.

[1:03:15] I think that possibly the town knows

[1:03:18] because they're the ones who would borrow the funds.

[1:03:21] So I'm not sure there is a deadline other than the fact

[1:03:25] that winter is approaching.

[1:03:27] Hey, rhetorical question.

[1:03:29] Sure.

[1:03:29] When we did the windows and doors,

[1:03:32] we knew that we had a 60-year-old heating system.

[1:03:35] Is there any reason why we chose not to do it at the same time and do a major project since we're getting

[1:03:42] 70% of 65% back from the state. I

[1:03:46] Can't answer that for you when I arrived in this position the statement of interest had already been done the windows had already been chosen

[1:03:53] I probably would have done things a little differently, but

[1:03:57] This is where we are. So what I would say is the schools look beautiful the windows are great

[1:04:02] But they definitely did not take into account, although I believe just from my conversations with our director of facilities that the plan always was to ask for bid savings to replace air condition and after the fact because there was a huge assumption that the project was going to come in under budget.

[1:04:19] Thank you Chris my thing was present to you you said it was how many millions of dollars the windows and doors it was about $8 million

[1:04:28] Okay, and who wasn't that that that that

[1:04:33] viewed the the windows and doors

[1:04:39] The plans to replace the windows and doors that was done before I got here

[1:04:44] But my assumption would have been it would have been the former superintendent the director of facilities the director of finance and

[1:04:49] the chosen OPM, which was Atlantic, that that would have been done through that group

[1:04:55] of people.

[1:04:56] Okay.

[1:04:56] Just because I was actually down at the dawn of the day, and even now at early September

[1:05:01] it is really warm in there, and I'm just surprised that, I mean, they knew that they had it, they

[1:05:06] had AC in there initially, and then just didn't factor it into the new project, I mean, that

[1:05:12] just mind-boggling to me, that they wouldn't look at that, but yeah, you can answer my question

[1:05:20] with that. Just unfortunate that you revisit it now, but is what it is? Bill?

[1:05:27] I was going to say just to piggyback on what Chris said. I mean, there were air-conditioning

[1:05:32] units in those windows before. I'm surprised that it wasn't taken into consideration when

[1:05:38] we were replacing those whether it was the engineer, the architect, the OPMO. We never viewed

[1:05:45] those plans and said, hey, look folks, you know, we have air-conditioning units here.

[1:05:50] What

[1:05:50] Brian, we go back to the engineers in the architects and say, hey, look, now you're putting an undue liability on the residents of the town that we do this project, that we're not subject to the 70% reimbursement.

[1:06:07] Maybe had we done it at that particular time, that we could recoup some of the money from the state.

[1:06:14] You know, now it's like it's a big oops and everybody's just back it off saying that I understand

[1:06:20] I mean you want you want to put the air conditioning in there

[1:06:25] We don't want to say no, but you know now it's a huge pill that you got to swallow in order to do it

[1:06:32] What I would say to you is and Brian may be able to answer some of this

[1:06:35] But what I would say to you is my conversation with the OPM is that some of it may be able to get charged the MSBA

[1:06:42] But they would have to look at that and they haven't gone that far yet, which is why I have not submitted any of that.

[1:06:47] And I understand replacing the heating system, because you have to do air conditioning, replace it, new heating system, new air condition, that means it makes total sense.

[1:06:57] You're not going to put air conditioning in there without replacing those units, but they kind of like, I don't know, it's like we get handcuffed here with it.

[1:07:06] Just to add some, hopefully a little bit of clarity, when I talked about the non-reimbursement,

[1:07:13] that was if the AC was added to the heating system improvements, we're very hopeful that

[1:07:23] the individual units would, in fact, receive reimbursement because we were able

[1:07:31] to confirm today that the out-project related incidentals.

[1:07:33] So our hope is that those units, it's kind of like the tri in the joint.

[1:07:38] So when you hear the word AC, because we're talking about ECN, two different levels.

[1:07:41] Yeah, you talk about like putting in duckless units, you know, in the offices and the nurses and that stuff there.

[1:07:50] But those, we believe, we're going to have some success with the issue of replacement of the heating system

[1:07:59] And again, this heating system is specific only to the CAF and the gymnasium that if we would add the AC component there,

[1:08:06] I just wanted to be upfront that I don't believe that would be reimbursable.

[1:08:10] And that is not part of the incident that does this, would be, would you want to, I know we're using the term bid savings,

[1:08:18] but I think, for intensive purposes, we'd be almost pulling back the difference and then reappropriating it to that.

[1:08:26] And so it would be a different order.

[1:08:27] So the cost of that is like 600 approximately 600,000 that is at one unit or two there's two

[1:08:34] So it there's a it's a closet that I happen to stumble upon in the Dunnevon when I was walking through with the

[1:08:40] contractors

[1:08:41] That has these huge monstrous-looking ducks

[1:08:47] They're almost compressors that with these ducks and they they go up and out and so one throws heat into the gymnasium and the other one

[1:08:55] and pours heat into the cafeteria.

[1:08:58] So they're not rooftop units?

[1:08:59] Well, there are units up on the roof,

[1:09:01] but what they were hoping to do to eliminate costs

[1:09:04] is they could, there's a possible one,

[1:09:06] they're hoping that they can use

[1:09:07] some of the existing materials

[1:09:09] and just change out the ductwork,

[1:09:11] but there may be a way to actually put the compressors

[1:09:14] in the courtyard and box them in.

[1:09:17] So those are things that they're looking at right now.

[1:09:24] Councillor Eugen? Thank you. To kind of compound what other

[1:09:29] Councillors are saying and to go back to my original question just generally. I know you

[1:09:34] spoke about it about the specific projects you're putting in front of us. But is there

[1:09:40] a general or can there be facilities subcommittee have one? Does the school department have one?

[1:09:46] And just a general assessment of all the school buildings and the physical structures,

[1:09:51] the systems within them, they're expected longevity at this point,

[1:09:57] whether they haven't been replaced at this point, updates.

[1:10:00] Is there one comprehensive, or can there be, whether it's done internally or externally?

[1:10:08] Basically, study done on the buildings so we can sort of predict or

[1:10:14] plan for these what are now huge capital investments, especially going forward with talks

[1:10:22] about other investments just like we did with the doors and windows and boilers, you know,

[1:10:28] we want instead of becoming in front of us and us going around the merry go around for

[1:10:33] two hours and do we need this and should we build a new school and all this can we have

[1:10:37] that report done if it's not something isn't done similarly already so we know where we're

[1:10:42] outstanding, you know, with the system. I think that would be good for everyone.

[1:10:46] I agree with you. So one there are a couple of answers to that. One is that we are looking at

[1:10:51] the master's facilities plan anyway, because it's up for review. As you may, I think all of you know

[1:10:57] at this point our director facility is actually out on medical. So I am looking to bring in and acting

[1:11:05] facilities director, hopefully in the next two weeks. We have had what I can tell you is that pretty much

[1:11:12] the roof or the roofs at our school buildings are in great need of repair.

[1:11:19] So based on where we're at right now, the boilers are pretty in pretty good shape.

[1:11:24] Many of them have been replaced in the last few years.

[1:11:27] We recently spent out of our building use fund, we spent $30,000 to patch the roof at the

[1:11:35] middle school because we were getting major leaks that were affecting equipment.

[1:11:38] We've recently had to, right now, it's actually occurring, invest about $27,000, $28,000 to repair the poolside gym floor at the high school because of leaks that caused the floor to warp, and therefore we could not hold any competitions there.

[1:11:57] The commissioner of the volleyball commissioner actually banned us using that, so we've moved everything down to the middle school.

[1:12:02] So those have been two huge hits that have hit on the building use fund that we weren't.

[1:12:08] And again, the result of that was a result of leakage coming from the roof.

[1:12:12] So we've definitely, I would say our biggest concern at this point in time are going to be the rules.

[1:12:18] And so we are going to have to have someone come out and actually do an extensive look at our roots.

[1:12:22] We've been patching for years, even at the middle school, they were patching.

[1:12:28] and we're hoping right now of the last Toronto rain we did not see any weeks at the middle school but we are still seeing weeks at other schools and so I would say part of this review, the biggest thing that we're concerned about right now is the roofs but we will be following up with a much fuller facility plan.

[1:12:47] And I don't know to put pressure on you but do you know the timeline of that or expected or do you have any goals on that plan?

[1:12:54] What I would say to you is I would I would want to wait until I have a permanent facility director

[1:12:58] And so some of that is just waiting sort of for things to play themselves out on a personnel matters

[1:13:04] But once that happens it this will definitely take priority

[1:13:08] Okay, and you're going to be doing that internally or a combination of internally externally

[1:13:12] I'm going to rely on the facilities director to tell me I believe it will be a combination of the facilities person and then you know

[1:13:19] So we'll probably have to bring in a various expert depending on what the area focuses

[1:13:27] on someone to walk through internally, and then maybe someone to deal with the exterior.

[1:13:31] All right.

[1:13:32] Thank you.

[1:13:33] Council Burgess.

[1:13:34] I know you're new in this position, but there is a report that's four or five years old

[1:13:39] on all of the buildings to the school loans, and what they have as far as what they believe,

[1:13:45] of the grade or the category of each physical plant piece.

[1:13:50] So that's not that old, so it's there, and so we would know about these things.

[1:13:57] I've been here since 93, meeting since 86.

[1:14:05] Roofs, we should not be having all these roof problems.

[1:14:08] We have done the pool roof and the gym roof at the high school probably within the last five years.

[1:14:13] The middle school is only 20 years old, we have done Dunnevin,

[1:14:22] young, yeah, money young.

[1:14:24] So I don't see where we're having these roof issues.

[1:14:28] So I'm really concerned with that, and I'd like us to pull up the funding that we've done for

[1:14:33] roots in the last 10 years, Jeanine, because we funded roofs.

[1:14:37] So either the money went someplace else, or we need to go back to the contract and tell them you didn't live up to your warranty on the roof.

[1:14:50] So that's on the roof issue.

[1:14:54] Where's Wayne? Getting in with you?

[1:14:56] He's on medical leave and is expected to return on Monday.

[1:15:00] He would have overseen this, wouldn't he? Because he was there before you would have overseen what part? Part of the Dunnevin project. He has been overseen, but it was everything was in place when both of us arrived. Who sits? Is there a building committee for that? Yes. Who sits on that? There's quite a few people. I had a Gordon, Andrea Nixon, Ryan Howard.

[1:15:25] So this is a different committee. We're talking about further lions. I would have to go back and see who's sat on me.

[1:15:29] My concern when we did the alliance was that there was no real building people.

[1:15:33] There was no contracting people.

[1:15:36] People who would should see if we have air conditioning in a window, and

[1:15:41] I'm reviewing the plans, now I don't have air conditioning in the window.

[1:15:46] You said, and maybe I misheard it, but you said, the old units that that have been pulled

[1:15:53] out of the windows, but now that's been resolved.

[1:15:57] The windows, the units were pulled out of the windows, and obviously now we replaced the windows, but that has been resolved.

[1:16:06] Well that was because it was determined that those were incidental to the project.

[1:16:12] So the only result if we actually physically go back in and do the units in the wall?

[1:16:20] Yes, yes, but those though we're expecting those to be covered by the MSBA.

[1:16:26] Okay, so those would fall under the bid saving.

[1:16:29] So it's still another, it's still, we didn't resolve it.

[1:16:33] It's still a contract that we somehow screwed up and now we have to fix it with the war against it.

[1:16:41] Okay, but it's resolved in the sense that I'm not necessarily coming forward to the town council asking for

[1:16:46] something in addition is my point that I was making.

[1:16:50] And that is that wasn't in every room?

[1:16:52] No, that's not in every room and so the the two the 600,000 units will only do the gym in the calf

[1:16:58] That would do the gym in the calf

[1:17:01] What heats the rest of the building?

[1:17:04] Univents in the classrooms, although it has been part of the project all along

[1:17:10] Yeah, I'd like to know who sat on that look that building committee because on the Dunnevin. Yes, okay

[1:17:16] And Brian you you reference as a couple times that this is like the water treatment plan

[1:17:21] It's not. I mean, we let the Water Treatment Plan fall down around us. This was a new contract,

[1:17:27] and they should have picked that piece up, because it was new. So it's not the same thing.

[1:17:33] I was speaking to the issue of the heating system work, not the air conditioning work.

[1:17:39] So I think I talked about both together, and that probably minced the issues that Councillor

[1:17:46] I was brought up as far as the AC units versus adding AC to the heating system.

[1:17:54] I referenced it from a standpoint of replacing the heating system that takes care of the gym and the calf.

[1:18:04] I view that as, okay, it's 60 years old, my guess is that, and this isn't just a Randolph thing.

[1:18:13] most communities continue to try and patch and move items.

[1:18:19] Yeah, let's go back to when we were sold this project.

[1:18:22] We were sold this project that our kids are freezing, our kids are wet because they're

[1:18:26] cold and they're getting rainy.

[1:18:27] That once we got new windows, we would solve that problem and it would be environmentally

[1:18:31] be great, it would be warm, we'd be cold, we'd be able to do whatever we wanted in that.

[1:18:35] That's how we were sold the building.

[1:18:37] We weren't sold the project.

[1:18:38] We weren't sold the project that, oh my God, let's look at the heating system because of

[1:18:42] 60 years old. Well, the majority of the heating system of the building is the

[1:18:47] univents, but yeah, understood. I guess my point is is we do have an

[1:18:52] opportunity to replace during the fire after the fire. We do have an

[1:18:56] opportunity to deal with an issue before it becomes a much larger issue.

[1:19:01] Right. And so can I go to Ken Chris? Thank you, Mr. President.

[1:19:08] Before we ask my question, I want to thank you, Madame Superintendent, and

[1:19:14] congratulate you for the energy and the synergy I saw in terms of the open houses.

[1:19:22] So I want to thank you for getting us off to what appears to be a great start.

[1:19:26] I also want to commend the chairperson of the School Committee, Ms. Gordon, and the rest of the school committee members for the excitement that was created.

[1:19:37] I think an attended number of the events, including the one at the young school, was very

[1:19:44] well attended and the parents were all ready to go, so I want to commend you for that.

[1:19:51] In terms of the proposal, the $2.3 million bid savings, is that normally accurate or is

[1:20:01] are a margin of error of 5 or 10 percent? Anyone knows what has been the history?

[1:20:07] My understanding right now is that these numbers are very accurate. So when I met with

[1:20:12] the OPM, he actually had a spreadsheet of actual costs. So the numbers that he gave me

[1:20:18] were actual costs that had been submitted. So to break out the bid savings, there's a

[1:20:26] combination and this again is where we were hoping to get some more information. So for

[1:20:30] For example, at the Dunnevin, there's a total savings of $1,488,000.

[1:20:35] However, the bid savings is $618,000, and the remaining cost is the balance available from construction and contingency.

[1:20:44] What I don't know is how much is construction and how much is contingency.

[1:20:48] But I know that the overall savings right now is $1.4 million.

[1:20:54] So before I come in front of you again, my hope is to have everything broken out so I can give you a very clear picture of where the money is going and the specific number of the ask.

[1:21:13] Just a little more to that, I mean, we were in a very unique situation when we did the

[1:21:18] police, the fire, the community center and the library.

[1:21:22] We actually went out to bed and timed it perfectly that we would come to the council, get

[1:21:26] the votes, yay or nay, and the budget was what the budget was, where the way the MSBA system

[1:21:34] some works does have kind of an old town meeting field to it is you do an authorization.

[1:21:41] And then the project goes out to bid so the bid savings is based on the savings in the

[1:21:51] construction and or the contingency is more based on savings within the project where

[1:21:58] the difference is okay here's what the council authorized but this is what the bids came

[1:22:03] And in the old town meeting days, same thing.

[1:22:07] We would put it out there, and there are times you might have to go back to town meeting and go up.

[1:22:13] There are times you have to go to town meeting and pull back the difference.

[1:22:17] So I just, this is a little more unique in that you have the bid savings, but

[1:22:24] Your contingency number was baked into the actual project cost of which fact is in to the savings.

[1:22:34] So it's a little more convoluted than we had with our four projects in the fact that this is the cost.

[1:22:43] So unless there was a significant issue, we were going to have to come back to the council.

[1:22:47] So, not gone wood, we had savings in the police and fire projects, we were able to offset some of the issues we had with the community center in the library, so it became a non-factor.

[1:22:59] So, we had four projects, we were able to kind of mix and mingle, they're not in that situation to do that, but the good thing here is that we're looking at the fact that there was a bit savings and there is some contingency savings, that's on the table for this discussion.

[1:23:20] So, from what I understand from the superintendent's response to, I think, a question by Council

[1:23:26] Goldstein, that irrespective of the long-term goals that we may have, the critical thing is

[1:23:32] that our kids need the heat in the winter and then need the AC so that they can be positive

[1:23:42] We live and become constructive and so on.

[1:23:45] So we're speaking of $600,000, just a bit over half a million of the 2.3 approximate big savings that we speak enough.

[1:23:54] Is that accurate?

[1:23:55] That is accurate.

[1:23:56] That's the Donovan.

[1:23:58] That's the Donovan.

[1:23:58] Yes, we don't.

[1:24:01] And again, so there's about another 100,000 that would impact the young, which we haven't really talked about because that's a small.

[1:24:09] And that is actually going to be covered by the MSBA.

[1:24:11] So in terms of what's outside the scope of the MSBA, it would be the Dunnevin project at 600, and right now it's at 618,000, but again, that is an estimate with no real numbers to back it up right now.

[1:24:28] So what would be your ideal situation if the council goes along with your proposal?

[1:24:39] Right now, I think the ideal situation, I was really, really concerned about the AC units

[1:24:46] and the classrooms and the nurses rooms, and I, like I said, it's been resolved,

[1:24:52] as a result in terms of them being installed, but we believe that the MSBA is going to cover

[1:24:58] them and that they're the incidentals to the existing project.

[1:25:02] So, the bigger, the bigger ask would be to come before the council and asking for an authorization to fix that unit or replace that unit at the Dunnevin to provide air conditioning and heating for the cafeteria and the gymnasium at the Dunnevin.

[1:25:20] And ideally, in terms of time frame, if we agree to your request, what's the approximate time would be for that?

[1:25:30] I don't have an approximate time, but I would say that would happen fairly quickly.

[1:25:35] Depending on the process, we actually have people in place as they're working on this project now that we could do it and we're hoping that because people are already on site, they're already working on the units that it would happen along with the other projects and we wouldn't have to necessarily wait because we have the manpower available to do the work on site.

[1:25:55] Can I follow up on that?

[1:25:57] Yes, I follow up on that.

[1:25:58] Would this be an appropriation, Madame Attorney?

[1:26:02] We would have to put together a three-year Mr. President.

[1:26:05] We would have to put together a request for borrowing.

[1:26:08] So at the next meeting we would put together a new borrowing request, and

[1:26:12] that would take two meetings for you to pass it.

[1:26:15] So it would be not the next meeting with the meeting after you could vote on it.

[1:26:18] And then as soon as you authorize it based on the authorization, they could proceed as quickly as they could.

[1:26:23] Thank you, thank you, Mr. Furson.

[1:26:26] Bill, unless-

[1:26:27] Yeah, just to can't see.

[1:26:29] Just to can't point, when he brought up how quick can he get done and you said you have people there working?

[1:26:35] So this would be a borrowing or an expenditure by us and if they funded us or refunded us, it's a shot in the dock.

[1:26:47] So we'd do this without knowing, because you've said a couple times, you said it and you said it.

[1:26:51] We believe that they'll reimburse on some of these things.

[1:26:55] Where do we get that belief from?

[1:26:56] And is that funding mechanism the way we would do it?

[1:26:59] So there are two different pieces.

[1:27:01] The part that we believe will be funded

[1:27:03] are the many split units that are going to go

[1:27:06] into a place what was removed from the air conditioning.

[1:27:10] Remove from the windows when they took the windows out.

[1:27:13] So that's an incidental cost to the project

[1:27:15] and is project related.

[1:27:17] So we believe they'll cover those.

[1:27:18] So why do we believe that?

[1:27:19] But because the OPM has said that it's covered as related to the project and then we would

[1:27:24] cover those.

[1:27:25] The part that we don't believe is going to be covered because it was never part of

[1:27:29] the project is, and I don't even know if it was looked at when they originally toured

[1:27:35] the Dunnevin, is this heating unit that it's, you know, this monstrous unit that heats

[1:27:40] the two largest areas of the Dunnevin.

[1:27:44] Those we do not believe will be covered because they were never in the scope of the project.

[1:27:48] And we just take the shot and just to piggyback on Jim here.

[1:27:53] Those two areas never had air conditioning, correct?

[1:27:55] They've never had air conditioning.

[1:27:57] I believe it's a heating unit at some point they had great heat.

[1:28:01] Right.

[1:28:03] Can I just follow?

[1:28:05] Yeah, you were next in line.

[1:28:07] So we talked a great deal about the dawn of it.

[1:28:10] So the young, what needs to be done there?

[1:28:15] The only thing that the young would be,

[1:28:16] The incidental cost related to the project would be to replace the units that were removed.

[1:28:22] So removed that we used to be in the window?

[1:28:24] Yes.

[1:28:24] Okay, does that school have air conditioning in the cafeteria or gymnasium?

[1:28:30] No, they do not and the way they're not, their units are very different than the Dunnevin.

[1:28:40] They also have other heating spaces where they can, I mean cooling spaces where they can move students.

[1:28:45] Where has the Dunnevin does not?

[1:28:47] Okay, and we know that the middle school has air conditioning in the library and the cafeteria.

[1:28:55] And what about the Kennedy?

[1:28:56] The Kennedy actually, this we're going to have to figure out.

[1:29:01] The Kennedy's nurse doesn't even have air conditioning, which is not a good situation in extreme heat.

[1:29:07] So we're going to have to figure out how to pay for that through our own,

[1:29:14] our own funds. It should have come up when their windows were put in. It was

[1:29:22] the same issue. To my knowledge, it was never brought before the council. I'm not

[1:29:27] sure of that. But when I walked around the summer, I asked and I mean the

[1:29:33] nurses room was 98 degrees and there was no air conditioning. So that's

[1:29:38] something we would have to try to cover them.

[1:29:41] So can we, Ryan, does it make sense?

[1:29:44] If we're going to be inclined to do this, does it make sense?

[1:29:48] Maybe to take a look at that and see in that area.

[1:29:53] And maybe who knows?

[1:29:54] Maybe we can get a bit of price by bundling it all together.

[1:29:58] I don't know.

[1:30:00] My understanding is because I was coming forward to you and Brian, you can correct me if I'm wrong. My

[1:30:05] understanding is that I, because I'm coming before the council looking for bid savings, money, that

[1:30:09] money was designated only for Dunnevin and Young, so that I can only make the request. Now, the

[1:30:14] town could definitely decide to do something differently, but I cannot ask for that money to be used

[1:30:20] for any school. I'm not asking you that. I didn't ask you. I asked Brian. All right, well, let's see what Brian has to say.

[1:30:32] Because from what I'm understanding is that it would have to be a separate appropriation. Right. So it has nothing to do with what you currently doing on those two projects.

[1:30:47] The shortings was could they be an additional appropriation or additional order? Yes.

[1:30:53] Thank you Mr. President, Mrs. Dogel, for my understood during the last school committee

[1:31:00] meeting the money is already there it's not like something we're going to look for or

[1:31:04] we don't know how we're going to finance it right and you're being proactive in case

[1:31:10] of like major extreme weather so you need somewhere to move the kids and I understand

[1:31:19] and also town manager came up with a great point.

[1:31:23] So that could be used as shelter for the town as well, right?

[1:31:28] Yes, so you just need our approval

[1:31:31] to use that money that's already there.

[1:31:33] Yes, okay, we've got my vote.

[1:31:37] Councilor Bridges.

[1:31:39] Cox engineering, ask them.

[1:31:44] They're a new company in town.

[1:31:47] They build this stuff from scratch, which is probably going to be cheaper than your $600,000 boozee.

[1:32:00] We need specs though on what it entails, and they might be able to, even if they can't do it at least.

[1:32:10] And they promised that when we set down with them originally, that they'd look at buildings for us.

[1:32:14] to actually look at, give us ideas.

[1:32:17] So maybe we should have them take a look and see how do we,

[1:32:20] how do we accomplish the goals, the long-term goals

[1:32:24] of these buildings by getting a system in place

[1:32:28] that can actually, you know,

[1:32:31] if we're going to air condition something, air condition.

[1:32:36] Councilmember.

[1:32:37] Thank you, Mr. President.

[1:32:40] Cots of engineering absolutely.

[1:32:42] And they've been really good to us.

[1:32:45] And I think they will definitely look after us.

[1:32:51] So I agree with that.

[1:32:53] Again, just thinking about this, and thank you.

[1:32:57] But first of all, thank you for coming in front of us

[1:33:00] and allowing us to digest this information

[1:33:05] and kind of think about ways where we could be helpful for you.

[1:33:11] and have a back-and-forth discussion.

[1:33:14] So I totally appreciated the conversation

[1:33:16] and yes, the kids in the AC, yes, the kids in the heat.

[1:33:20] And I think we all at the table agree

[1:33:23] that that is extremely important.

[1:33:27] But again, I am hoping as we go forward the whole assessment,

[1:33:32] I was mentioned that there was a plan

[1:33:35] that's already together assessment that's already together

[1:33:37] looking at that assessment and whatever we need

[1:33:40] And in addition to that, I think it would be really useful for you and us.

[1:33:45] I know there's been lots of talk that just the town we have, there's been some areas

[1:33:51] that we just have not taken care of, you know, and it is what it is.

[1:33:55] And there's some areas where we thought we were taking care of, but it wasn't happening

[1:34:00] the way we thought it was supposed to be happening.

[1:34:03] And that is what it is.

[1:34:05] So at this point, and going forward, I think these assessments will be very useful.

[1:34:10] Well, all of us. Thank you.

[1:34:12] Councilor Goldstein.

[1:34:14] Dropping the other shoe.

[1:34:17] If we don't borrow the $2 million,

[1:34:21] Jeanine, what is the annual debt service on $2 million?

[1:34:26] Proximum.

[1:34:32] If I were to guess it's probably $1,000, $1,500, $75,000 a year.

[1:34:37] Probably fair.

[1:34:38] All right. So what we're saying that, you know, there is savings. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, but we should go and

[1:34:46] wear the eyes open. And if we don't do it, there is a potential additional availability to the town. Maybe for schools, maybe for public safety, whatever, between $15975,000

[1:34:58] is here because we take the excess money and don't worry.

[1:35:06] All right.

[1:35:06] Thank you for coming before us.

[1:35:08] Do you have any steps?

[1:35:09] Thing you want to add to you?

[1:35:10] We will submit for the next council meeting some additional

[1:35:15] information, both on the finance side and we'll

[1:35:21] put together a council order for consideration and the proper

[1:35:26] for appetisement, should the vote be there to approve it,

[1:35:33] to do the acing the heating and the duct related work at the Donovan.

[1:35:37] And what about specs, the scope of work?

[1:35:41] Well, that's part of the conversation as to why we didn't want to have a more.

[1:35:47] No, it wasn't going to be an automation.

[1:35:49] You didn't mention that, I want to make sure that is something that's coming to us.

[1:35:52] Not just for that Monday, but prior to that Monday.

[1:35:54] Yes, we're anticipating and expecting that the OPM will provide all of us that information.

[1:36:02] All right.

[1:36:03] Again, thank you, Ms. Stovell, for coming here this evening.

[1:36:05] Look forward to having more conversations in the future.

[1:36:08] Thank you.

[1:36:12] All right.

[1:36:13] Next item on the agenda, and thank you for everyone's patience, is public comments.

[1:36:17] Everyone will have the chance to speak for three minutes.

[1:36:19] If anyone would like to come forward, please do so.

[1:36:22] And if you can just add your name, give your name and address the record.

[1:36:26] 63 follow street. I came with two items, but now I've got three since you talked about the water.

[1:36:32] Can I ask Ryan a question first?

[1:36:34] Oh, you can, when was the boiled water order, Brian?

[1:36:38] The boiled water was back July, I think July 11th.

[1:36:42] Okay, well then July 12th. I was watching the news on Channel 5 in the morning, which I do every morning.

[1:36:47] And it was a very bigger, I thought it was an embarrassment to Randolph.

[1:36:52] Channel 5 set up their interview or whatever they want to call it, right in front

[1:36:57] of the water tank on Fawn Street.

[1:36:59] And that wasn't a good reflection on our water treatment plan.

[1:37:04] It's rust, I know that doesn't affect the water, but people don't know that.

[1:37:08] Is there any way you get anything painted?

[1:37:12] I brought that up the last meeting before to get that painted, because visually it's not bad.

[1:37:17] It's bad.

[1:37:19] The second item I had was, I came, Jason, you weren't here.

[1:37:25] The Vice President was handling the meeting.

[1:37:27] I asked about poll 24 on West Street, and I didn't know what the status was at that.

[1:37:32] But since I've asked, I've noticed three or four more around town that are in the same

[1:37:38] condition. And I was wondering if there's any way you can have the code enforcement officer

[1:37:42] while she's driving around making note of these polls. You maybe even take a picture with a phone

[1:37:48] and then give them the Brian so maybe they can clean up the situation.

[1:37:54] And I'd like to go one step further is that I know Jimmy said it at the last meeting

[1:37:59] that they came to ask for something. Instead, I just so came there permits to put a new

[1:38:05] Polin or a guide wire? Before you issue the permit, make them clean up the situations. Instead of them keep promise and they're going to do it because they're not doing it.

[1:38:15] I haven't seen any activity on West Street. I keep my eyes open. So I don't know if that's possible or not. If you want to put a phone on them.

[1:38:24] All I can say is that at a regional, you know, I know what I'm saying.

[1:38:29] The energy's meeting.

[1:38:30] This is not a Randolph issue.

[1:38:33] This is a statewide issue.

[1:38:35] I think the MMA itself was looking at one point trying to come up with some kind of legislation where there would be fines involved.

[1:38:43] There is no question that wherever they can avoid switching out the poll, they do this joint attachment,

[1:38:52] which certainly doesn't look safe, but it doesn't look good either.

[1:39:00] So it's frustrating.

[1:39:02] What we're talking about is these poles that are doubled up and they cut off the bottom

[1:39:06] and put them on a stoke.

[1:39:08] That's what I'm talking about.

[1:39:10] And the third thing I had, I don't know if they can be done or not,

[1:39:13] there's a lot of people in town who are on a thick sin,

[1:39:15] comes like, I am, I'm retired.

[1:39:17] Is there any possible way, and I don't mean right away, but you get your tax bill in November, and then you get your water bill in November.

[1:39:26] Is there any way of separating so you get your tax bill in November and your water bill in this, you know what I mean, keep going on that.

[1:39:32] So you don't get the same things.

[1:39:34] The water bill is six districts.

[1:39:36] It's what?

[1:39:36] The water bill is six districts. It's still billed out.

[1:39:39] So not everyone gets it in November.

[1:39:41] It varies throughout the community.

[1:39:43] I mean, I do so.

[1:39:43] right and it goes quarterly now as well yeah no I know it would mean it would be eight months

[1:39:47] have the year water bills are going out yeah or I didn't know if you could make maybe change the

[1:39:51] due date you know I don't know if you could do that yeah but everyone's not doing the same time

[1:39:56] okay yeah I'll write you for Christmas and by eight months I meant 12 months my maths a little rest

[1:40:01] okay all right but that's all I had but my main concern again is those telephone please okay all right

[1:40:06] Thank you very much.

[1:40:08] Sorry.

[1:40:09] Anyone else?

[1:40:09] Ms. Mulligan?

[1:40:18] Good evening, Councilor.

[1:40:21] Dave Mulligan, three pundlings.

[1:40:24] I could start, you know, ask questions, but I've been told that we can't have a discussion.

[1:40:30] Yet I'm seeing discussions taking place right here, you know.

[1:40:34] All right.

[1:40:35] If we can answer the questions quickly.

[1:40:36] Okay.

[1:40:37] So maybe it will help.

[1:40:39] I mean, there's a lot of issues that are going on in this community.

[1:40:44] The council's job obligation to address people's concerns where they don't feel like

[1:40:52] they're speaking at a blank wall and not being acknowledged.

[1:40:57] There have been people come up here, take their own time to speak about rodent problems,

[1:41:03] the RICC, all right.

[1:41:06] These conversations are going on, comments have been happening for the last several months.

[1:41:10] and limited of zero feedback regarding the council.

[1:41:18] And so the community feels like why even by the coming up here and

[1:41:23] expressing ourselves if we're not going to see any type of action take place or any type of direction for that.

[1:41:30] I mean, I could sit here for three minutes and talk about water all day long.

[1:41:34] All right, but there's so many different issues with this, with how this public speaks portion is handled and not handled, right?

[1:41:45] I mean, there's, you know, when you have residents talking about, you know, road infestation because of construction, and you don't have nothing else about it.

[1:41:55] And you hear, you know, RIC's either rates go up, but there's no justification of what's really going on, you know.

[1:42:03] And, you know, and it's just it's disappointing that we don't have a more of a dialogue and more of an action,

[1:42:13] you know, action-based response from the council to initiate an action anyways as opposed to, you know, we'll check into it.

[1:42:21] We'll check into it means what?

[1:42:24] You know, when you don't hear anything about it after the fact, it's, you know, it seems like it's just got kicked to the side.

[1:42:29] And in all of a sudden we're talking about spending millions of dollars on one thing or something else, but it's not

[1:42:36] We're not dealing with, you know, with some of the residents even come up here to address

[1:42:41] You know, I mean the community is everybody and when everybody comes up in this table, all right, you know, and voicing their concern

[1:42:50] They should be it should be addressed in a reasonable amount of time. You know the next need meeting maybe, you know, but to

[1:42:59] You know, some of these topics that I'm bringing up right now were brought up well over two months ago, all right, and we're even addressed, you know, so, but I just want to make a comment regarding the schools as a contractor, you know, the groups.

[1:43:15] A lot of times the warranties that the state requires is a one year warranty unless there's something else that's written in the manufacturer may have a warranty on the product, but the time may be responsible for the labor to replace the product.

[1:43:29] So, but that's just something that's, but for now, that's all because I don't want to use them one by three minutes.

[1:43:39] Thank you.

[1:43:41] Next.

[1:43:43] It's a hand before.

[1:43:45] You're already walking towards Mr. Goyne.

[1:43:52] Ms. Swayne will be next.

[1:43:55] Jesse Gordon, 52 West Street.

[1:43:56] I co-signed a correspondence to the town council, which I believe will be read later in the meeting.

[1:44:02] With four other residents, I'd like to provide the context for that correspondence.

[1:44:07] The voter turnout rate for municipal elections has been about 20% in recent years.

[1:44:11] We'd like to ask the town council's help to increase voter turnout.

[1:44:15] We're focusing on many people, the many people of Randolph, who work during election day,

[1:44:19] and had to make walking absentee voting easier for them.

[1:44:22] And not to interrupt you. I have a response to your letter from our acting town clerk.

[1:44:27] So if you want to read your letter in its entirety, you're more than welcome to.

[1:44:31] I'll need three minutes.

[1:44:33] That's okay.

[1:44:35] So the letter says to the Randall Town Council, we're writing to request that the town clerk's office extend the hours available for absentee voting to more off 4.8 hours.

[1:44:44] So many of Randall's voters work long hours out of town and we would be disenfranchised by making by being unable to get to the polls on Tuesday, November 5th.

[1:44:52] because they have to miss work in order to vote. Our goal is to allow more voters to participate in the upcoming municipal election by providing easier

[1:45:00] We are absentee voting at the town clerk's office. We suggest the following schedule in addition to the regular town clerk hours of 8.30 a.m. to 4.30 p.m. on weekdays, starting on Monday, October 21st from 4.30 until 7. Saturday, October 26th from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m., Monday, October 28th until 7 p.m. and Saturday, November 2nd for the morning as well. We believe this would greatly increase the number of people voting in the municipal election. We note that in November of 2017, only about 4,500 people voted while over 20,000 people were registered to vote.

[1:45:29] a turnout of 122%. That means 78% of our voters did not vote. We think that many of those 78%

[1:45:35] would vote if the town council increased absentee voting hours assigned by myself,

[1:45:40] Finnec Cattabua Davis, Jehovah Lopez, George Magazine, and Alafia Sikina, Richard Jumpier.

[1:45:45] Okay, and I'll read this letter from Cheryl Sass, the acting town clerk and registrar,

[1:45:50] which I received this evening. Dear President Adams, I'm writing in response to the letter address

[1:45:55] to the Randolph-town Council dated September 5th, 2019, from the aforementioned names.

[1:46:01] The letter is somewhat misleading as two of the dates requested for extended absentee

[1:46:05] voting are Monday evenings until 7 p.m.

[1:46:08] The town clerk's office already provides the convenience of Monday night hours and absentee

[1:46:12] voting until 7 p.m. and is done so for almost 20 years.

[1:46:17] I've had several discussions with Mr. Gordon both in writing and in person on this matter,

[1:46:21] And I was somewhat surprised to see the letter to the town council as I have advised Mr. Gordon any qualified absentee voter can in person once ballots become available mid-October or request a ballot to be mailed to them during our regular business hours Mondays 8.30 to 7 and Tuesday through Friday 8.30 to 4.30

[1:46:44] Access to requesting an absentee ballot is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.

[1:46:51] A voter simply requests a ballot in writing or by filling out an application, which can be obtained online or in person at the clerk's office.

[1:46:58] In addition, family members may request an absentee ballot to be sent on a voter's behalf.

[1:47:04] Once ballots are printed and received, they will be mailed to anyone who has requested that one be sent.

[1:47:08] In an email dated August 6, 2019, I stated that I may be able to offer a few hours the

[1:47:16] Saturday prior to the election if staffing and workflow allow, but it's too early for

[1:47:21] me to make that determination at this time.

[1:47:23] Once the absentee voting period begins, I will determine if being open on Saturday, November

[1:47:29] 2, from noon to 2pm is necessary.

[1:47:32] Is also extremely important to note that early voting and absentee voting are two very different

[1:47:36] things.

[1:47:37] There is no early voting period for a local election.

[1:47:40] Only certain state elections absentee voting is only for those who fit one of the three

[1:47:47] following criteria one.

[1:47:49] Voter will be out of town on election day from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m., too.

[1:47:53] Voter has a disability that prevents them from voting in person or three.

[1:47:57] Voter is prevented by religious beliefs from voting at a polling place.

[1:48:01] When signing the absentee ballot envelope, the voter is affirming under the penalties of

[1:48:07] perjury that they are qualified to vote by absentee ballot.

[1:48:11] Happy to answer any and all questions the council has, and I'm happy to assist any candidates

[1:48:16] or residents who may need more absentee voting, information on absentee voting.

[1:48:21] Shall these sass acting town clerk?

[1:48:24] So hopefully that answers some of the questions and somewhat of a response to you, and as noted

[1:48:30] here, she'll certainly be able to reach out to any councillors or any other candidates

[1:48:34] who may have further questions.

[1:48:36] And I'm sure we can get your copy of this letter as well.

[1:48:39] Sure.

[1:48:39] May I do my context?

[1:48:41] Go ahead.

[1:48:42] But it actually addresses.

[1:48:42] Now, go ahead.

[1:48:43] You know, I didn't mean to talk about this.

[1:48:45] So the first part, yes, of course, I know that the evening hours on Monday are always available.

[1:48:51] That's not an issue.

[1:48:52] The real issue is the Saturday hours.

[1:48:54] I mean, I picked those dates in question, which are after when my discussion with Ms. Sass indicated

[1:48:58] that it would be a sure thing that the ballots are ready.

[1:49:01] That's why I started the dates on October 21st, after the mid-October date when they come

[1:49:05] What I want to do with the Monday evening hours is advertise them, in other words make

[1:49:09] it publicly known to everybody in town that they may go in and do their absentee voting.

[1:49:14] With regards to mail-in voting, yes, that's a separate issue.

[1:49:17] I'm only talking about walk-in voting because that's the one that's really the most relevant

[1:49:20] for people.

[1:49:21] They can do everything in one step.

[1:49:22] If you do it by mail, you have to do two steps.

[1:49:24] You have to mail in the application, get a response, and then mail in the absentee issue.

[1:49:28] That's not what the ask is of the town council.

[1:49:31] So the ask is to set up certain hours that are known in advance so that we can publicize

[1:49:37] those hours.

[1:49:37] And with regards to the issue of the criteria for absentee voting in her criteria, I'm

[1:49:44] only talking about criteria number one.

[1:49:45] So the typical example is that let's say you're a voter who takes the 728 train to work and

[1:49:51] takes the train home to arrive at the station at 717 PM, that puts you out of the possibility

[1:49:56] of during your normal work day being able to vote at the polls.

[1:50:00] That's the situation in criteria number one, when you're unavailable on the election day that we want to address.

[1:50:06] So that criteria means that you are allowed to absentee vote and that you can therefore go in as an absentee voter prior,

[1:50:13] but we have to know the dates in order to be able to publicize those dates.

[1:50:16] And I'm and the other signers and we hope others too are very happy to do the publicity through the newspaper and

[1:50:22] flyers and so on, but we need the dates decided in advance.

[1:50:26] this has been clear in my discussion and in her letter that it won't be decided until

[1:50:31] basically the last minute, which means we can't do any advanced publicity.

[1:50:34] So what we're really asking is that the dates are decided between the town council and the

[1:50:38] town clerk's office well in advance so that we can publicize it and that people can take

[1:50:42] advantage of it.

[1:50:43] Yes, I'm also aware of the distinction between early voting and absentee voting.

[1:50:46] I think most voters aren't.

[1:50:48] This is absentee voting.

[1:50:50] Early voting is the goal in fact.

[1:50:52] That's what I'm trying to make one piece more like.

[1:50:55] doing it that we know when you can go in and doing it in one stop is an important aspect of early voting that absentee voting doesn't do and if we have the dates in advance and can publicize it we can make walk-in absentee voting similar to early voting which is a state program not a municipal voting program I think it's everything in my all right thank you sir and then just one quick point it's I do believe it's the town clerk's decision as to when you know absentee voting or any sort of voting hours would happen

[1:51:25] And Mr. Howard, am I correct on that?

[1:51:27] It does not fall under the House Council being the elected body in the election.

[1:51:31] I don't think it would be appropriate for you to make, make, make election related decisions.

[1:51:34] So if that's your question, I would say, I would say yes.

[1:51:37] That's true.

[1:51:39] I do anticipate that there will be a, I was available and announced in advance to the last

[1:51:49] Saturday before the election.

[1:51:53] I will say that in town elections, the vast majority, maybe not vast majority because I don't have statistics here, but I can tell you from my general experience, and it's 50, 50 at best, the amount of people that vote by mail versus those that walk into vote in a town election.

[1:52:17] So I don't know that I think, unfortunately, and I guess maybe, and I couldn't help it,

[1:52:26] I'm not the town clerk anymore, but when you hear the word disenfranchised, that has such a loaded meeting.

[1:52:33] And so it's frustrating to hear that word because that's what goes on in another parts of the country.

[1:52:39] That is not what happens in Massachusetts, that's not what happens in the town of Randolph.

[1:52:46] And so that's just when I hit that word, I got to admit it kind of gets the hair on the back of my neck a little up there.

[1:52:53] Because I want to make it abundantly clear that in my time as the town clerk, we always made sure that we added additional hours for both absentee voting in person.

[1:53:07] But quite frankly, a lot of times people come in, and they like being able to get the

[1:53:12] ballot mail to them because they want to take more time to figure out who the candidates

[1:53:16] are, who they want to vote for, whatever the case may be.

[1:53:19] We don't get into why voters, what their preferences are.

[1:53:23] Our job is to try and give them those opportunities, and everybody's got a different view on that.

[1:53:31] But I do anticipate that there will be a date and time announced for

[1:53:36] that last Saturday before the election.

[1:53:41] As I always state, and I don't know if the letter mentioned it or not,

[1:53:45] the town does keep a, there are those who apply regularly those that have certain illnesses,

[1:53:51] or the like, those who know that they're out regularly, they fill out their absentee ballot request.

[1:53:58] just literally a January of every year, so they know any ballot that comes up, special election or not they're going to get that ballot meal to them.

[1:54:07] So clearly, the town clerk would make this decision, I do anticipate from my conversations with the town clerk that that Saturday, whether it's 10 to 12, 12 to 2, whatever it might be, that there will be some hours announced shortly for that.

[1:54:21] And the evening hours, the Monday night hours has always allowed absentee voting during

[1:54:29] those, during my tenure.

[1:54:32] So that would continue.

[1:54:37] And I know actually this last state election, we actually received some compliments that

[1:54:47] came in through other state agencies and or state groups that monitor elections in the town of Randolph because we're a majority minority community.

[1:54:57] So they're very sensitive to the issues of disenfranchisement.

[1:55:00] And when it came to the voting process in Randolph from an inactive voter on the day of the election from the beginning of the precinct to the close out of the precinct,

[1:55:09] Senator Warren's legal staff actually reached out to Deb and I think Debbie and

[1:55:14] sent an email to the council to say, we wish towns ran their elections like the town of Randolph.

[1:55:20] So, I just want to make it clear that we do a good job here.

[1:55:26] The residents, the poll workers, the election workers, everybody down the line does a good job.

[1:55:31] All right, thank you.

[1:55:32] Hey, I respond.

[1:55:35] Briefly.

[1:55:35] Sure.

[1:55:37] Certainly, knowing that the term disenfranchisement is sensitive, I won't use that term again.

[1:55:40] But as you might recall, when you were the town clerk in 2017, I had the same discussion

[1:55:44] with you on Facebook using the same terminology as far as I know.

[1:55:48] And the issue about that I'm referring to as disenfranchisement is addressing why is

[1:55:54] it that 70% of our registered voters don't vote in municipal elections.

[1:55:58] Of course, it's not legal disenfranchisement.

[1:56:01] I acknowledge that.

[1:56:02] And I think the town of Randolph does a great job for the people who vote.

[1:56:05] I'm trying to get it that there's more people who can vote.

[1:56:07] and the real issue is the publicity.

[1:56:09] The sooner we know the dates, the more we can publicize it.

[1:56:12] I mean, what I would really like to see is a big orange light sign

[1:56:15] in Crawford Square saying you can go right now to Town Hall

[1:56:18] and vote early right this minute on the Monday evenings.

[1:56:22] Given that we're not going to do that, I want to publicize

[1:56:24] that people can do that, and there are four more will.

[1:56:27] I mean, my hope in particular, we do flashing boards

[1:56:30] and banners, et cetera, over the years as the council knows.

[1:56:33] The fact that these meetings for the first time,

[1:56:35] And we started live streaming them less than a year ago.

[1:56:40] I'm hopeful that more people who generally don't follow town of fears has started to follow town of fears.

[1:56:47] So I think that's the number one issue in town elections.

[1:56:49] You vote if you feel a connection to the candidates and a connection to the issues.

[1:56:53] And I think the fact that we don't have the local newspapers anymore, and it's not the same.

[1:56:59] I mean, we used to have two local papers, sometimes three stories a day, I don't mean the coverage of the meetings.

[1:57:05] I'm talking every day you get the legend in the enterprise and there be two to three Randolph stories local in the paper every day

[1:57:13] Those days along gone. So that's why we made that jump to Facebook live

[1:57:17] So when people jump on to Facebook for other purposes this meeting pops up and they can choose to click off it or not, but

[1:57:25] Hopefully that has an impact

[1:57:28] Hopefully that has a positive impact in turn

[1:57:31] Just quickly, I mean, thank you for coming in front of us.

[1:57:35] I think this always improvement is a large percentage of residents who are not voting.

[1:57:42] And I think, we do it, we do do it.

[1:57:44] We do an awesome job here.

[1:57:46] And I think Brian, you have put lots of energy to make sure that we have the volunteers,

[1:57:50] that we have a policy, that we have the structure that will help residents.

[1:58:01] understand that they're voting rights and make sure that people are in place.

[1:58:08] However, I also think that there's room to grow and

[1:58:13] there's still a large population out there of individuals who are not voting.

[1:58:18] So how can we get, and that's a continue action of how to get more voters interested.

[1:58:27] that hopefully these meetings being streamed,

[1:58:30] but not everyone has the internet

[1:58:34] and sometimes people who do have internet

[1:58:37] and they are not quite, you know,

[1:58:39] and English not their first link,

[1:58:41] which is a number of different reasons

[1:58:44] why folks may not be able to vote.

[1:58:48] So there's always room to crawl.

[1:58:52] Thank you, Mr. Gordon.

[1:58:53] So have a good evening.

[1:58:54] Miss Wayne?

[1:59:02] So for those that don't know me, my name is Sharon Swain, now we've been in town since

[1:59:06] 1997.

[1:59:06] I've probably volunteered in various capacities for the last 20 years, anyway, from husband

[1:59:14] and I, my kids, from Cubscouts, and most people know me in the vein of the music department,

[1:59:21] which is what brings me here tonight.

[1:59:24] So Saturday, we are having a marching band competition.

[1:59:28] There are eight towns coming here plus our own blue devils, and we are in dire need of volunteers, and I have our little sign-up genius here, I'm hoping that CTV can catch it with the link to where you can sign up.

[1:59:44] And if you can't get to that, you're more than welcome to get a hold of us on Randolph Boosters at Yahoo.com. Mr. Burgess is our announcer.

[1:59:54] Mr. Howard is going to be doing some speaking, so now he's going to be doing some speaking.

[2:00:00] Yeah, looking mainly, it takes about 40, 50 volunteers to pull this off.

[2:00:05] Sure. I think when I went on that to a registry, even though I had already talked to you guys, it limits you to, you have to pick something.

[2:00:13] And if you don't know anything about band competition, the chemical competitions, you don't know what those are.

[2:00:18] So if people want to volunteer in just, you know, you'll find a home for them, let them know.

[2:00:24] Absolutely. And it's, you know, you don't have, you don't know how to have to read music.

[2:00:30] It's things like...

[2:00:32] So we don't have volunteer performers.

[2:00:33] Correct.

[2:00:34] And if you, you know, it is an election year, so I would highly recommend that you all come down and volunteer as well as people can get you.

[2:00:41] So Jim is volunteering for us, and Andrew is volunteering for us.

[2:00:47] It's such simple things.

[2:00:48] It's, so these buses arrive, and they all have to get off the buses, the kids, and most

[2:00:53] of them have at least two buses per band, and we stamp their hands so that when the

[2:00:57] kids change out of uniform, they can want to go watch the rest of the bands.

[2:01:00] They know their performers, and they don't have to pay the entrance fee.

[2:01:05] It's, we have to have some place to park these things, and most of the time it's going

[2:01:09] to be in the admin parking lot, so can you, you know, get a bus to line up this way and

[2:01:13] not this way, it's those kinds of things.

[2:01:16] so it's very simple. We like to have the high school kids be the band

[2:01:21] greeters for the most part because they know the insides of the high school

[2:01:26] building and they know we had a point people in the direction of bathrooms and

[2:01:29] and things like that. They are also. So the events five to eight thirty but you

[2:01:35] don't need some one five to eight thirty. You could have someone for an hour

[2:01:38] talking buses at five o'clock or four thirty. Yeah because the bands don't

[2:01:42] all because they perform at different times the different intervals they don't

[2:01:45] all come in at the same time. So if you have a band performing at 730, they might show

[2:01:49] up at 630 because then normally they are an hour before hand. So the first band shows

[2:01:53] up at 5. We're probably going to tell those early people to be there at 330. And we like

[2:02:01] to do things like have a couple of concession stations. So we'll do, you know, candy and

[2:02:09] so they're at one.

[2:02:10] So people don't have to wait.

[2:02:11] It's just a lot of directing of people.

[2:02:15] Unlike a sporting event, band competitions,

[2:02:18] people don't walk around while people are performing.

[2:02:21] So it's holding people up at the STI case.

[2:02:26] And that band stops performing

[2:02:28] so that they can get back to the seat.

[2:02:29] So there's a lot of movement with the pits,

[2:02:33] the front-end ensembles, with all the marimba's

[2:02:35] and all that sort of thing.

[2:02:36] and they usually come in from the side of the field.

[2:02:40] It's guarantee people sharing.

[2:02:41] I know.

[2:02:42] So it is.

[2:02:44] It's just a lot of holding up of people

[2:02:49] selling the concessions.

[2:02:52] And what we also like to do is this is Randolph's time

[2:02:56] to shine as far as our hospitality.

[2:02:59] We show it off in our food.

[2:03:01] So we'll take donations of anything.

[2:03:04] the same disclosure is graciously donating patties, I believe, so it's, you know, we're

[2:03:12] trying to get the transportation department involved. We're trying to get the food services

[2:03:17] NYCA from high school is one of our courts. So the hot stuff is done. The rest of it is

[2:03:22] just having a lot of bodies to facilitate this and keep it moving.

[2:03:28] So is there an email that someone you can give to somebody if they want to give an hour

[2:03:32] of their time, but two hours of their time.

[2:03:34] So you can email us at Randolph Boostes at Yahoo.com.

[2:03:39] The sign up genius had, you know, just go with Randolph Boostes.

[2:03:43] I did the little one.

[2:03:45] And I also, I also gave it to our CTV.

[2:03:49] If you have a church group of kids that wants to come, if you have, you know, we were trying

[2:03:54] to get the teams involved, but we are really hurting and we need, we need a whole bunch

[2:04:00] of volunteers.

[2:04:00] is. Councilor Flemont. Will students receive

[2:04:03] community hours? Absolutely. Community service hours are

[2:04:06] revealed. I would probably get I would say a minimum of five if

[2:04:08] they work the whole event. Okay. We had the football team, but

[2:04:12] they had to reschedule the game. So we won't have them in the

[2:04:16] Chalios. But it's a great it's a great event. If you don't know

[2:04:21] the activity, it's a great way to learn about the activity we

[2:04:23] encourage, you know, the elementary band parents, the middle

[2:04:26] school band parents, your kids are going to be doing this

[2:04:28] eventually and you know it would be you don't know what you don't know so and if

[2:04:36] you can't volunteer just please come out and support our kids because they

[2:04:39] do what time are our kids going out there do you know what time are our kids

[2:04:43] performing I don't have the schedule so look on the NESBA site they'll be

[2:04:50] later because they're one of the larger divisions they start with the smaller

[2:04:52] divisions dot with this coming with the two tractor trailers and and you know

[2:04:57] probably four buses there I'd be our largest one. So we hope you come out. Do you have a flyer or a line?

[2:05:04] Yeah, I could download that and send it out. Yep, absolutely. I'm sure we might be able to put on

[2:05:09] the town website as well. Yeah, thank you. Yep, I'm sorry. We might be able to get on the town website as well.

[2:05:15] That would be fantastic. So appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sharon.

[2:05:18] Thank you, Sharon. Thank you, Sharon. This travel evening.

[2:05:25] You know my aunts in that I couldn't pronounce her name as a kid so she was always on

[2:05:28] net.

[2:05:31] I'm did not try to get a direct contact with Randolph Chamber and that's why I'm here

[2:05:35] tonight to talk about the Chamber just a little bit.

[2:05:38] I've had this job now for four months and I know that you all or I know that we send you

[2:05:43] all information about the Chamber and I'm here looking for your support as well.

[2:05:49] So Sharon looking for your support and support doesn't mean that you have to come to every

[2:05:54] event or you have to come to any event.

[2:05:57] Support means talk about what we do for the chamber, talk about what we do in businesses,

[2:06:02] and send somebody.

[2:06:03] Maybe somebody you know would be interested in something and you may want to send them.

[2:06:07] For example, we are having a leadership program this Thursday, a very well-known business

[2:06:13] this coach is coming and she's going to speak on progressive leadership.

[2:06:17] And that will include diversity, that will include inclusion.

[2:06:21] And that will include the third which is my very favorite and that is kindness.

[2:06:26] And so she's going to speak all about that.

[2:06:28] So I went over to the chiefs and I said to the chiefs especially to chief pace, you've promoted

[2:06:35] some of your police officers.

[2:06:37] Do you have some other people that are like emerging leaders that might benefit from this program?

[2:06:42] And he said, how many can I send?

[2:06:44] I offer that to the fire chief as well.

[2:06:47] I offer that to Brian when we had a discussion.

[2:06:49] So it's from 8 to 10 on Thursday,

[2:06:51] and if any of you would like to come to it,

[2:06:53] would love to have it.

[2:06:55] Next week after that, on September 17,

[2:06:58] our own new town name, Manager Brian Howard,

[2:07:01] will be speaking on the state of the town.

[2:07:02] That is something that the Chamber does every single year.

[2:07:06] Also, I was reached out to by,

[2:07:08] is that incorrect English?

[2:07:09] First, Commander John Hambelberg reached out to me to ask me if we would put on a program called Crazed, you know, that program is.

[2:07:16] It's a citizens response to a shooting event.

[2:07:20] Unfortunately, it's not, if it ever happens, it could be when it would happen.

[2:07:25] So he is going to come and speak on that on the 19th, which is a week from Thursday, I believe, five of my dates, right?

[2:07:31] So I would ask you perhaps that you would talk among the community, I know that we support businesses, but

[2:07:37] But this is something that the community probably would enjoy coming to as well, just to

[2:07:41] learn about it.

[2:07:43] And then one other thing I would like to speak about is an event on the manufacturing.

[2:07:50] And I don't know if you knew this, the third largest town in the South Shore of manufacturers.

[2:07:56] So I have reached out to a flood in the area, Doug Mean is coming.

[2:08:02] He does a spot on Channel 5 called the manufacturing and Massachusetts.

[2:08:07] He's going to come and talk a little bit about what's going on in manufacturing a Massachusetts.

[2:08:12] But most importantly, we will have a panel of manufacturers from Randolph that he will talk about and discuss.

[2:08:18] He's very well spoken. He's an anchor in the morning. Somebody said they watch Channel 5 in the morning. He's on Channel 5 in the morning.

[2:08:24] I would ask you to spread the word about this. We are having it at Lombardos. It's a big step for the new executive director to do.

[2:08:30] So I would look for your support in this.

[2:08:36] There's a fee. Yes. Lunch in at Lombardos. Yes. So we are not in the business of not raising money because we have to raise money. So yes, there's a fee for that.

[2:08:46] Date and time.

[2:08:48] The date and time. Is that what you said? Yes. October 3.

[2:08:52] That's a busy date.

[2:08:53] That's not a good date. I know it's not a good date because there's something else happening in town from 10 to 12.

[2:08:57] Well, ours is from 12 to 2, so I would ask that if you know anybody that's interested

[2:09:02] in me at a time.

[2:09:02] How much is it?

[2:09:03] Excuse me?

[2:09:04] How much is it?

[2:09:05] It's $35.

[2:09:07] And it's $45 for nonmembers, but of course, but you people would be $35.

[2:09:10] Can I get an obligation do they go and remember?

[2:09:13] Absolutely.

[2:09:13] I will.

[2:09:14] You want to have one with me.

[2:09:15] I don't want to take up a lot more of your time.

[2:09:17] If there's some things that I spoke about that you want to know about, please contact me.

[2:09:21] Yes.

[2:09:22] Good to go.

[2:09:22] Hold on, Councillor.

[2:09:23] Oh, I'm sorry.

[2:09:24] Thanks.

[2:09:24] I have a quick question.

[2:09:25] Sure.

[2:09:26] I've been in touch with the small business administration.

[2:09:29] Yes.

[2:09:30] And they're very much interested in having a workshop

[2:09:34] for small and micro businesses.

[2:09:36] That's correct.

[2:09:37] Would you be interested in partnering and helping

[2:09:41] to organize such event?

[2:09:43] Absolutely.

[2:09:44] And they'll be a representative from the SBA

[2:09:46] who specifies, who specifically points in self

[2:09:50] toward manufacturing at this event as well.

[2:09:52] But this is not a manufacturer.

[2:09:53] This is a...

[2:09:54] I understand that.

[2:09:55] This is the Small Business Association, right?

[2:09:58] That's correct.

[2:09:58] And things like capital, marketing, and so on.

[2:10:03] That's right.

[2:10:04] So it's just been four months, and I have a whole lot of things

[2:10:07] that I don't want to put too much in you,

[2:10:08] but you said that if you have any initiative,

[2:10:11] you could come to use them.

[2:10:12] Yes, please, that would be great.

[2:10:14] And one more thing I will talk to you about is

[2:10:16] we're putting a program in the high school

[2:10:18] called Leaders on the Rise.

[2:10:20] And it's for boys, young men, and young women.

[2:10:22] 15 young men and young women.

[2:10:25] It'll be once a month for six months, so that's six sessions.

[2:10:31] We will do it at lunchtime.

[2:10:32] Dr. Cunard has been wonderful about supporting it.

[2:10:35] One of the council's, one of the guidance council's came and asked about a program like that

[2:10:39] and I said I've done those before, yes, let's do it.

[2:10:42] And we actually have a credit union in town that's stepped up to the plate and has given us

[2:10:46] $3,000 to run the program.

[2:10:48] So that's wonderful.

[2:10:49] Yes, the REH credit union which is the municipal credit union.

[2:10:52] and so please support them.

[2:10:55] And that is all I have to say.

[2:10:56] Yeah, yeah.

[2:10:58] There's a program for women that we instituted in the chamber.

[2:11:05] Yes.

[2:11:06] Women's business round table.

[2:11:07] Yes.

[2:11:08] In fact, they're the ones that are sponsoring the leaders

[2:11:10] on the rise program.

[2:11:11] And they're also sponsoring health fair.

[2:11:13] And all women are invited to come.

[2:11:16] Can I keep your flyers?

[2:11:17] Can I keep your flyers?

[2:11:19] Can I keep your flyers?

[2:11:19] I'm sorry.

[2:11:20] Can I keep your flyers?

[2:11:21] Yes, please. That would be awesome. I would appreciate that. Thank you.

[2:11:25] And if there are any business owners watching right now, you know, the chamber has really

[2:11:29] been revitalized under Jeanette's leadership. So thank you.

[2:11:32] Give it the base, Kedule.

[2:11:34] Give it the base, Kedule.

[2:11:36] The base.

[2:11:38] The base schedule.

[2:11:39] I will be moderating the political debates this year.

[2:11:42] And I do not have the schedule yet.

[2:11:44] And I also will be filming that wonderful set on Saturday night.

[2:11:58] Thank you.

[2:11:59] Thank you, Janet.

[2:12:01] Mr. Magazine, you've been waiting for a while.

[2:12:05] Hello, everyone.

[2:12:06] George Magazine, 17 Hillsdale Road.

[2:12:09] How are you, Mr. Howell?

[2:12:10] Good.

[2:12:11] You're all ready.

[2:12:11] I see we got a football game, no sorry, direction, a band coming, right?

[2:12:22] We set with triple week, and we got to spray here done yet, for all these kids coming out

[2:12:28] before that happens.

[2:12:30] Do we know about that in this document?

[2:12:32] I know that our spraying day is Wednesdays with no full county.

[2:12:37] We can certainly request additional sprays to that.

[2:12:40] get that spray before we have anything.

[2:12:42] Well, these kids, yeah, they've been on a concert

[2:12:44] at least three times in the past couple.

[2:12:46] They've been, I will say that the Norfolk County

[2:12:49] Skeetal Control Group has been a very responsive.

[2:12:52] They're always responsive anyway,

[2:12:53] but they've been very excellent.

[2:12:55] Now, I got a surprise for you all today.

[2:12:57] Now, the last time I was here,

[2:13:00] I know three councilmen's was not present.

[2:13:03] I was wondering, was y'all having something

[2:13:05] that we didn't know about, was that,

[2:13:08] Because I know the rest of council wasn't there, but anyway, I ain't gonna bother y'all the bulk dad

[2:13:12] But was you at the point? No, but that day

[2:13:15] Was you real busy that day the last one? How about you, sir?

[2:13:21] I'm on okay, but let's leave it alone because I know you are in junior. I mean just new freshmen and I don't want you to have no bad

[2:13:32] Blood coming up up up up there. You know, I want everybody to be fair

[2:13:36] So you I thought y'all would be here for that resolution so we could maybe one of you all could have bought it back up out of the four

[2:13:43] But that didn't happen because three was out so we couldn't bring that back up

[2:13:48] So I was kind of wondering what what really happened that day, but anyway, that's another problem

[2:13:54] I hope that doesn't happen again because this is a violent Charlie work

[2:13:59] Now I was here so I'm gonna bring this back up because y'all wasn't here

[2:14:02] So, with that being said, when I was here, I had a petition that I was trying to see

[2:14:08] if we can get our charter law change for this one says, town, council, at large, and

[2:14:17] council, turn limits.

[2:14:19] I want to ask the public to start looking at it, if we can start talking about turn limits

[2:14:24] for council because I said the last time my kids are so little and they said they see you

[2:14:30] all up here.

[2:14:31] And I'm kind of like hey listen, I hope that doesn't keep going on and that's in a lot

[2:14:36] of departments planning and I've never seen and Boston or nowhere where you had a family

[2:14:43] working in everywhere, scatting, you know, four people on council, two brothers, two sisters,

[2:14:49] two cousins, I mean Jesus, and you got family on all kinds of plans and people can't get

[2:14:54] jobs.

[2:14:55] You can get some room for where other people can start doing things in the town.

[2:14:59] That's the only way...

[2:15:00] We're going to get ahead. Randolph is 20 years behind, maybe 30. You see, we got a water problem,

[2:15:06] we got a school problem, right, and you're playing with people's lives, and we got to stop it.

[2:15:12] Let's turn this into a city. Let Mr. Howard be our mayor, right? No, we need to change this

[2:15:20] stuff. And let's get some Charlie Baker to get some assistance in this town, because we

[2:15:25] We can't keep being broke, the town is broke, we keep patching up a lot of things.

[2:15:30] The one, we got four things that's broken, right?

[2:15:34] This doesn't work, that doesn't work, the pump doesn't work, the legs doesn't work,

[2:15:38] it's like a bottom, right?

[2:15:40] Now after that, put all that money in, who's going to take all the scrap?

[2:15:44] Where's that money coming back to?

[2:15:46] You know when you take this stuff apart, who's going to be responsible or any money we get

[2:15:50] back for that?

[2:15:58] I'm not officially on the joint water board but I'm certainly happy to ask the question.

[2:16:01] So do we know about any money, kit back of the stuff that we've put in all the money

[2:16:06] up until now that we invested in it?

[2:16:09] You know who?

[2:16:10] Or do we rent it out to someone else that might need it?

[2:16:13] Which thing?

[2:16:14] The water trigger?

[2:16:15] Yeah, yeah.

[2:16:16] No, you know when you take away all the pots and everything, you know what I mean?

[2:16:19] So we got a lot of things if we know somebody in the town ain't doing the right thing

[2:16:26] So we need to start doing like Spike Lisa. Let's do the right thing

[2:16:30] Have a good day. Oh, and if you see us outside

[2:16:34] Doing the signs I'm gonna have these all

[2:16:40] If they want to sign the petitions you'll see me out there with my jersey on, okay?

[2:16:45] So I'm hoping that the residents pay attention and let's stop doing some term limits

[2:16:51] I love I like you Jimmy you've been here since I was a little kid. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. I like you, sir

[2:16:59] You're very wonderful. I like you and your son and when I first came here

[2:17:05] It didn't have that but it looks beautiful now

[2:17:09] I want to be like you, three minutes is over, everybody have a good day.

[2:17:13] Thank you.

[2:17:14] George Magazine, voters, let's do the right thing, term limits.

[2:17:18] And let's start talking about a city.

[2:17:20] We've got to start sharing information, or we're not going to make it this time,

[2:17:24] ain't going to go ahead.

[2:17:26] Quincey just got a new train station.

[2:17:29] We are following way behind.

[2:17:31] We need to change.

[2:17:33] Thank you, George.

[2:17:35] Thank you.

[2:17:35] Anyone want to follow that up, Shelley?

[2:17:39] And I will say just quickly, Mr. Magazine, we do have a charter review subcommittee, and we'll have a charter commission.

[2:17:46] And I'm sure that'll be a subject that will be discussed in the term limits.

[2:17:50] Thank you, sir, thank you for listening.

[2:17:53] Happy Monday, Council of Minimums, Rochelle Gentian from 22 Gloria Road, Randolph, Massachusetts.

[2:17:59] I just wanted to make a quick announcement about the RPS supply drive that was held yesterday.

[2:18:05] At the RICC, we raised a lot of donations and I just want to thank the organizations that

[2:18:11] were part of the event, such as Motivation Church, Stage's fan studio, as well as Autism

[2:18:19] and Sprinter and we also want to thank the Randolph Intergenerational Community Center

[2:18:23] for allowing us to use their space and we are very excited for these donations to be placed

[2:18:30] in Randolph Public School classrooms. So thank you. Thank you. And the cheese was delicious.

[2:18:36] Oh wait, cheese was great. Anyone else wishing to speak?

[2:18:41] shouldn't sweet.

[2:18:46] Newly in Newton, Wall Street. There's a couple of comments on the water.

[2:18:51] Let's see, everyone's water heater system has a phone number on it. They haven't

[2:18:55] troubled that. You can contact whoever installed it. This is for the residents mostly.

[2:19:01] Someone had mentioned the cooking or the water quality. To get the best water

[2:19:08] quality for making coffee, cooking, rice, boil on anything, you should use cold water.

[2:19:16] The coldest water possible, like you said, you might have to wait 20 seconds to get through

[2:19:21] the air and whatever.

[2:19:22] We should always be using cold water for cooking.

[2:19:28] Some sort of notification when the work is happening, I think that's a great idea.

[2:19:33] very necessary to avoid any kind of confusion or complaints used in social media maybe

[2:19:41] or we also have the water restriction signs something like that somewhere to post something

[2:19:46] very visible to people to know when the work's going on they might lose water pressure it

[2:19:50] might be dirty.

[2:19:52] And also I was curious, not a question that has to be answered now but about testing the water

[2:19:58] as we go.

[2:19:59] I don't know if that's something that's going to be done, or just as long as everyone knows that you can get a water test and get for free, I think in most like hardware stores, if anyone's really concerned, and also if there is a problem, maybe somebody to get people water filters if they're continuing to have problems or the work is taking along with them planned and that's pretty much it. Thank you.

[2:20:28] Were we in a youth group like this?

[2:20:32] That's a lot of notes in one hand.

[2:20:37] Any other public comments?

[2:20:40] Second time?

[2:20:42] Third and final?

[2:20:44] There's Gary at your own equal time.

[2:20:47] All right. That portion is closed. Thank you so much.

[2:20:53] Next up, we've got town managers report. Mr. Howard.

[2:20:56] All right,

[2:20:59] I will keep it somewhat brief.

[2:21:04] I did Sharon already spoke to it, but I did have the information for the Randolph Martian being competition.

[2:21:11] We'll also make sure that we put it on the Facebook page.

[2:21:17] People can click and write on it and see if they're in a situation to the voluntary or any hours to support that event.

[2:21:25] Make it a little bit easier if we can.

[2:21:26] And I very much appreciate the Randolph-Band Program in the time of Randolph.

[2:21:35] Just a reminder, community workshop sponsored by the Randolph-Free Development Authority.

[2:21:40] They've been doing a heck of a lot of advertising on this.

[2:21:43] But this is this Saturday from 9 to 11.45 AM at the Randolph Community Center.

[2:21:51] Specifically, this is to learn about the revitalization plan and

[2:21:54] process and craft a vision for the future of the Croft Square business district.

[2:21:58] If this is something you're interested in at all, this is well worth tending.

[2:22:03] So hopefully, a number of residents will be able to come this Saturday.

[2:22:07] So in the morning, you can go to this afternoon, you can help with the marching band.

[2:22:11] Be a good day in the Randall.

[2:22:15] Also, I just want to note that there is a horseshoe invitational tournament on September 21st,

[2:22:23] 2019, this is going to be held at the INVET's post-51 POWMIA.

[2:22:29] It's the first annual Maureen Dunn.

[2:22:32] Everybody in Randolph certainly knows Maureen's connections to the POWMIA movement,

[2:22:39] the chair, and the dedication that took place here at Town Hall.

[2:22:44] And we have a remembrance downstairs in the lobby.

[2:22:47] So they're doing something here to try and raise some additional money and do some real positive things.

[2:22:52] And so it starts at 2 p.m., Saturday, September 21st,

[2:22:57] for more information, contact the AMVETs.

[2:23:03] So they're hoping to have 40 teams for that

[2:23:06] and hopefully they have great success.

[2:23:09] I do want to have, if you could pass those down,

[2:23:13] Councillor Ewing.

[2:23:15] This is a community newsletter that we put together

[2:23:21] at one of our department head meetings who we're talking about.

[2:23:25] There's no way to highlight everything that goes on.

[2:23:29] I mean, we have the community calendars.

[2:23:30] We have Facebook, social media, emails, et cetera.

[2:23:34] However, we are hoping to highlight some different things.

[2:23:39] In particular, I said to the department heads,

[2:23:42] what are the general major questions when people contact you?

[2:23:45] What are some events that come on annually?

[2:23:47] So we're gonna hopefully do four of these a year

[2:23:50] and maybe even more if we have the staffing to be able to pull it off.

[2:23:57] But it's just a series of things that are important to the residents.

[2:24:01] These will be throughout the town on the website.

[2:24:05] They'll be at the library, the community center.

[2:24:07] We do have a newsletter that we include within the annual census.

[2:24:11] So this will be a component of that also.

[2:24:14] I do want to tip my cap in particular to Elizabeth LaRosey, the library director.

[2:24:22] She kind of took the vision and took it to the next step.

[2:24:27] I'm very pleased with the work that was done on this, so this will be available on the town's news tomorrow.

[2:24:35] And we'll probably have the ability to email it out also, but you will find it in some other areas around town.

[2:24:40] Very helpful information here that I think residents would enjoy having to be on the lookout.

[2:24:48] Mr. President, for that, I don't mean to interrupt the time management, but I see our super still sitting here and

[2:24:55] would it be appropriate, and maybe we could interrupt time management before it to take the super, her issue out of order.

[2:25:04] Are you almost all set?

[2:25:07] Basically, I am all set.

[2:25:09] I will say we did have, and she's here in the audience, Finesque-Cataboyce-Davis

[2:25:15] wants to volunteer to serve on the Conservation Commission.

[2:25:19] They are desperately in need of people to serve on the committee.

[2:25:24] There have been the starting to get into that flow as we've seen up, down, up, down over

[2:25:28] the years, quorum issues.

[2:25:31] She's excited about the opportunity, so I do want to put her name forward.

[2:25:35] She is here, I don't want to put her on the spot, but she was willing to serve.

[2:25:40] So I do want to put her name forward this evening to serve on the Conservation Commission.

[2:25:47] She does not have formal training on the Conservation Commission, but

[2:25:52] her hat and soul and she's going to work with our current

[2:25:57] Com-com administrator Joe Dunn, so I'm excited about giving her an opportunity to serve this community.

[2:26:06] So move the recommendation.

[2:26:08] Second.

[2:26:10] Did you send out an email about this before?

[2:26:12] I did not.

[2:26:13] Basically, we were talking throughout the weekend about opportunities to serve, so the short answer

[2:26:20] is no.

[2:26:21] But I do know that they are having great, great issues in getting quirms.

[2:26:26] And unfortunately, and we're going to be doing another big thing with mailings and

[2:26:30] start to try and get our boards, committees, and commissions reinvigorated as far as we have some openings that need to be filled.

[2:26:39] All right, Fred, this is a discussion.

[2:26:40] Just some discussion.

[2:26:42] You don't need formal training, you'll pick it up, it's not, it's not that bad, so it'll be good.

[2:26:48] I think it's, thank you for all of your concern.

[2:26:50] I know her all right any other discussion here and none all in favor please say aye

[2:26:56] Opposed abstention that's unanimous congratulate you

[2:26:59] I'm assuming

[2:27:04] you were speaking to the unpaid bills will not I believe that was the request

[2:27:10] any objections

[2:27:11] All right next item will have the fiscal year in 19 unpaid bills general fund

[2:27:19] Council order 2019-049, introduced by town manager Brian Howard.

[2:27:28] Yes, this is a annual article that comes traditionally in the September time frame.

[2:27:36] I will say there are two additional bills that I was hoping to have on this list.

[2:27:44] Those will be presented at the next Council meeting.

[2:27:47] We always try to, during the end of the year, transfer us to limit this as much as we can.

[2:27:54] So tonight, we are coming forward with the following list, our finance director is here.

[2:28:01] Also this evening to speak to the staff.

[2:28:05] And just before you get started, can you tell us what the ones that will be coming before us are?

[2:28:09] So we can have a fuller picture,

[2:28:13] at least approximate numbers on the order.

[2:28:16] come that are still that are not on this. There is approximately 15,000 in I think it's

[2:28:26] the work that's gone account and second one was police department and I believe when

[2:28:40] When they're done compiling it should be under $5,000 for front-papels.

[2:28:48] All right, Ms. Smith, are you leading us off or are the numbers or what the numbers are?

[2:28:55] The numbers are as presented.

[2:28:59] Councillor Goldstein.

[2:29:02] I'm just curious at the presentation like I'm looking at Randall public schools at 148,000.

[2:29:08] Now, that's just the total, and then the detail is on the right-hand side for the $148,000.

[2:29:15] Correct.

[2:29:16] Now, am I correct in saying that if these bills weren't there, we would have another $250,000 in free cash?

[2:29:29] So the way that this order is presented, the funding source is the 2020 budget.

[2:29:37] So it's essentially moving an appropriation from one pocket to the other to pay the bills.

[2:29:44] There is no appropriation for these bills.

[2:29:47] Okay, so this is coming out of the 2020 budget.

[2:29:51] So each related department, each department that has bills,

[2:29:55] their 2020 budget will be reduced by the announcement.

[2:29:58] Will be reduced by that.

[2:30:03] Councilor Egan. With these, when we did the effort, 20 budget with these, excuse me, anticipated?

[2:30:13] Through you, Mr. President. No. So the way that these invoices or these obligations come about to be presented in this manner. As we approach June, I send out communications to all departments. I work with those school finance director and ask that they work with the vendors.

[2:30:32] They get an idea of what invoices may be outstanding that they haven't yet received yet, so if the placed orders are not received the invoice physically in hand yet, they're asked to keep track of that to monitor their budget.

[2:30:46] If there's available budget funds, they're allowed to encumber those budget funds.

[2:30:51] So if I have a bill that I know I'm going to get in the mail in July, and my budget has availability.

[2:31:01] I can encumber it, and then I can pay that bill in July, and it wouldn't be on this list.

[2:31:07] So these are either bills that departments did not know that they were going to get,

[2:31:13] and passed the deadline of when I do my review and close the books.

[2:31:16] Or their invoices that the departments didn't have available budget at the end of the year.

[2:31:23] So they could not be paid or encumbered, and they need an appropriation now to fulfill our obligation.

[2:31:29] Can you use the one on the top line of use as an example of that?

[2:31:36] Because we knew that that expense was going to occur, and we should have had money in our account.

[2:31:43] Through you, Mr. President, so this first line, the $8,500 for the contract was

[2:31:49] encumbered, what wasn't included, where the reimbursement expenses that the Collins Center has presented.

[2:31:55] So not the candidates reimbursement for travel, but the call and send of themselves for the advertising of

[2:32:03] Good job posting and those sorts of things. So you know, I think working with Deb we captured the 8500

[2:32:12] Reimbursable expenses with the contract slipped by me as well. So we didn't

[2:32:17] Overspend our budget per se then no the council. Okay. Yes, so this would be an obligation that we weren't aware of

[2:32:26] So the 2364 was above and beyond the 8500.

[2:32:30] Correct.

[2:32:31] And so,

[2:32:35] okay, do you have a detailed list of what that included?

[2:32:40] I do.

[2:32:43] And we can see that at some point?

[2:32:45] Yes, I can forward that to the council tomorrow.

[2:32:48] Okay.

[2:32:49] And do you have that for all the invoices?

[2:32:54] I do.

[2:32:54] Okay.

[2:32:54] Councillor

[2:32:58] Goldstein. Move to approve. Council order 219-049.

[2:33:05] Second.

[2:33:09] Motion made and seconded. I hope we can have some discussion, Councillor

[2:33:12] Exophilis. So how do we go about making some of these departments

[2:33:18] I mean, $32,000 in highway expats, $148,000 in schools.

[2:33:28] How does that happen?

[2:33:34] Because you don't want to take a hit for this year.

[2:33:39] Use this year's money to pay last year's bills.

[2:33:43] Right, so I guess the options are, one, they reduce their budget or two.

[2:33:47] There are alternative sources whether it's and those are discussions that can be had do you want to touch on any of that?

[2:33:55] I mean the short answer is as the year goes on as the council knows they're there have there are what is it'll come forward to transfers.

[2:34:07] That would be one one option in some of these when free cash gets certified that's another opportunity

[2:34:16] And as was previously mentioned, some departments may need to tighten the belt a little bit to offset some of this.

[2:34:24] So it's really a combination of a series of things we do have unpaid bills every year.

[2:34:32] This, a few of these numbers, I think the legal numbers, the council's more than aware as to what those are.

[2:34:41] some of the other stuff, certainly from Janine's standpoint and my standpoint.

[2:34:46] As much as possible, we expect that these bills would be encumbered, and they would go in through that process.

[2:34:54] So why weren't they?

[2:34:56] There's, there's, those are personal matters.

[2:35:01] I guess I could say, as far as I'm concerned, there are a number of instances where people should have done that.

[2:35:09] and how I respond to that, or I suppose how we respond to that with the department.

[2:35:14] It is kind of a personnel issue as far as our expectations and things of that nature.

[2:35:20] But yes, a number of these items in my opinion fall into that category.

[2:35:26] Are there any categories we did not have the money?

[2:35:31] Well, in the case of legal, we know what that is.

[2:35:35] Deep UW, the hard part, if you remember is we did a transfer in and then we took actually some out at the end of the year to balance some other issues because some of these other bills hadn't been presented yet.

[2:35:47] So quite frankly, we probably would have just paid those out of that in conference.

[2:35:52] The superintendent can speak better to, in particular, they're in the public school numbers that are listed here.

[2:36:00] But for the most part, like the community's program number, the 1450, that's actually almost two years old, that bill, as an example.

[2:36:11] Mr. Vell, you are here.

[2:36:13] It appears as though there are three things we're paying for with the 148,000 image technology specialist, IT, image tech, and the lion share to direct energy for $137,000.

[2:36:27] I think I along with many are curious how you know we get an invoice or whatever whatever of that price at the end of the year.

[2:36:34] Okay, so I haven't seen the sheet that you're looking at but I'm here to speak about the direct energy.

[2:36:40] I haven't looked at the other two.

[2:36:43] So I'm going to own a piece of this.

[2:36:46] We received the thank you.

[2:36:49] We received bills from direct energy after July 15th I believe.

[2:36:56] They went to, there had been no bills going to the finance department.

[2:37:01] We asked them to, we actually got a phone call and said that said if we don't receive payment within three days we're cutting up this contract with random public schools.

[2:37:14] What's direct energy?

[2:37:16] I'm sorry.

[2:37:16] What is direct energy?

[2:37:17] Direct energy is the company that's dealing with the solar

[2:37:22] pieces of in that providing our utility, our electricity at the district.

[2:37:27] And so to get a phone call that you owe $137,000 and out three days to pay it was concerning.

[2:37:37] At that point, this is probably right around the time that our Director of Finance went out on

[2:37:43] medical, you know, maybe a little bit afterwards, but we started having a conversation around

[2:37:48] the national grid credits that were owed to the schools.

[2:37:52] What I would like to say is since that time, we have secured the credits, the 100, and

[2:37:57] I don't know the exact amount of the check, but the check to cover these costs has already

[2:38:02] been deposited in the town of council.

[2:38:03] The revenue is there, however, it was deposited in FY20 for an FY19 bill.

[2:38:10] So, basically, you know, I'm not going to make excuses on why it didn't happen, I was not

[2:38:17] aware of this, I was expecting the finance office to know these things, but we have tried

[2:38:24] to make the town hall and the school hall by securing the credits, which have actually

[2:38:30] been deposited, so the town now holds those funds.

[2:38:33] So I'm trying to find, I actually had a great meeting with the town manager and town accountant

[2:38:38] today to figure out what can we do so that the school does not take a $148,000 hit when

[2:38:45] the town is already holding the funds, because that for us would be a huge deal.

[2:38:52] And as you know, we're already facing some other potential cuts and are waiting to hear

[2:38:56] from the from desi as to whether or not there's going to be additional funding coming our

[2:39:02] way hopefully in some time in October, which is what they quoted us.

[2:39:05] So my understanding is that it sort of lies with the Council to make that decision, but

[2:39:11] I'm basically asking at this point that you consider the fact that you are holding

[2:39:15] the revenue that covers the cost of that apparently it cannot be used until the end of FY20,

[2:39:22] but it is there.

[2:39:23] So that's it and once you want to add something to me, I don't know if I've covered everything

[2:39:29] in terms of the process on how the town, what the town does with the money as it sits.

[2:39:33] I should know this, but are we on the same electrical company?

[2:39:39] There are different solar credits, both as different care stars as one of the companies

[2:39:44] that we deal with on our run.

[2:39:46] Back to the other point quickly is, it's not as simple as the council taking a vote to transfer

[2:39:52] the check in because it's two different fiscal years.

[2:39:56] So she said that.

[2:39:56] right, but she then said to the council that's a vote for you to take. I want to make

[2:40:04] it clear that it's not, and to the public, it's not that the council can just take a vote

[2:40:08] to transfer that money over. As I mentioned earlier, we're going to be looking at different

[2:40:16] things throughout the year to try and deal with some of these issues that are presented here

[2:40:22] here today and how they're going to impact, you know, the budget.

[2:40:28] Free cash will hopefully be certified, come the next four to six weeks so that that does

[2:40:34] become an opportunity and an option.

[2:40:37] But I just wanted to make it clear that it's not as, it's not a simple vote of the council

[2:40:44] to free up the money that was deposited in this fiscal year to pay a previous year.

[2:40:48] That's all.

[2:40:49] The way it's accounted for.

[2:40:51] And I think we understand that we can't, we can only, you would give us an

[2:40:55] appropriation on it for us to be able to spend anything but what I think and I've

[2:41:01] been a critic when I think it need to be however here's if she's stating it

[2:41:06] correctly we've received a check for what she owes it, what you'll give bill for

[2:41:12] or else whatever. So with that we should at least be able to give a good faith

[2:41:19] If commitment somewhere that it's her money to spend providing, we're not cutting you another $800,000 or whatever it is with the desi stuff.

[2:41:30] If we can make that commitment, then I'm not going to say we're going to approve deficit spending, but there should be some way we can say,

[2:41:41] hey, that 148 is theirs.

[2:41:44] and she shouldn't have to go in today and try to make cuts in A, B, and C programming to cover that deficit.

[2:41:52] And I think the meeting that we had today, we discussed some options to do that.

[2:41:56] So is there a commitment from myself and the Finance Director in that area?

[2:42:02] Yes.

[2:42:04] Councillor Exellvis?

[2:42:05] How much of a check did we receive?

[2:42:08] Through you, Mr. President, the credits that were monetized were $140,000 from National Grid.

[2:42:15] 100 and $140,000.

[2:42:18] So that's what I've covered.

[2:42:20] All right, there's a motion on the floor to approve the order for the discussion.

[2:42:24] With the caveat that this council supportive of that 148 is the school money.

[2:42:34] That's not my motion.

[2:42:35] That's an amendment then.

[2:42:37] I don't think we can do that.

[2:42:39] Well, I just think it should be at least in the discussion, you know, I think that, I think that the sentiment is there that it goes back.

[2:42:52] Okay, ultimately.

[2:42:54] Any further discussion on the motion to approve Councilor 2019-049 all in favor, please say aye.

[2:43:01] Aye.

[2:43:02] Opposed?

[2:43:03] Abstention?

[2:43:04] That is unanimous.

[2:43:06] Thank you, Mr. Vell.

[2:43:07] Thank you.

[2:43:08] Thank you, Ms. Gordon, and Ms. Frazier.

[2:43:13] We have Councilor Twin at 2019-047 request for the town council to initiate amendments to the Randall Zoning Ordnance, Chapter 200 of the General Code of the town of Randall Relative to Carwashing Services, pursuing to MGL Chapter 48, Section 5.

[2:43:29] A point of information to answer, yeah, I was coming to our finish with this report.

[2:43:37] Yes, the appointment was last.

[2:43:40] Thank you.

[2:43:41] Yeah.

[2:43:41] This is introduced by the planning board.

[2:43:44] Do we want to send it off to?

[2:43:49] Move to refer to the planning board, Nordinates.

[2:43:53] What does that do back to the plan board?

[2:43:54] They need a public hearing.

[2:43:56] Motion made by Councillor Bredgers, seconded by Councillor Goldstein.

[2:43:59] All in favor, please say aye.

[2:44:01] Aye.

[2:44:02] Opposed?

[2:44:02] Abstention?

[2:44:03] That's unanimous.

[2:44:05] We'll be getting on that.

[2:44:08] Councilor Choi, 19-048, betterment agreement for 48 Fitzgerald Street.

[2:44:15] It's introduced by your town manager, Brian Howard.

[2:44:22] Good evening, Christine Griffin, our legal counsel, has been working closely with our

[2:44:30] DPW superintendent on this matter, so I will hand it off to her to describe a little bit

[2:44:37] more what we're doing here at the betterment agreement, the authorization that we're speaking

[2:44:43] this evening from the town council.

[2:44:47] Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. President, this is an order that was generated at the request

[2:44:51] of the DPW Fitzgerald Street as a public way in Randolph that, for some reason, was never

[2:44:57] entirely completely constructed.

[2:44:59] Thank you.

[2:45:00] So there is a space in the middle of Fitzgerald way that has only recently been turned into a paved area. This didn't become a pressing issue until recently when someone purchased the property that is directly abutting that part of the street. And so the only way that they get into their property is if we paved the public way in front of it, and then they could put a driveway into their property. As part of doing that work, utilities also need to be installed to the house. And most of the utilities were apparently easy to install, given what was

[2:45:29] It's already under the street, but the water pipe did not reach the house.

[2:45:34] So the DPW did have to put in, or will have to finish putting in some significant chunk of water pipe.

[2:45:42] There is a statute that allows a town to, when they make a capital improvement that benefits only a single resident or a small group of residents.

[2:45:53] The town is allowed to charge those residents the amount that the improvement

[2:46:00] increased the value of their property.

[2:46:02] In this case, adding water service to a property increases the value of the property

[2:46:06] exponentially, because otherwise you couldn't have a house on it.

[2:46:09] We certainly aren't going to charge that amount.

[2:46:11] And so what the property owner suggested and what the DPW director thought was a good idea was

[2:46:16] to simply charge the property owner for the price of the materials and the work to put in that pipe.

[2:46:21] And so that's what this reflects.

[2:46:23] This reflects an agreement between the town and the property owner that the property owner will reimburse the

[2:46:29] Town for the cost of the materials and the work to extend the water pipe to that residence so that the house can have water

[2:46:35] Service in an amount not to exceed

[2:46:38] 5,780 dollars or 42 cents

[2:46:40] All right, so just to be clear, it's the resident that's paying this the town is nothingness correct the property owner

[2:46:46] I believe it's a developer so ultimately the house will probably get sold with the property owner. There's the developer will pay it

[2:46:54] I believe the water pipe is in.

[2:46:57] I don't know the status of the work I know that this has been going on all summer and

[2:47:02] when we started working on this, it was not in.

[2:47:04] It may have gone in while this was in development.

[2:47:07] Yeah, I think it is in.

[2:47:10] So what the two issues say, one, it says, if he doesn't pay, we won't give him an occupancy

[2:47:17] permit.

[2:47:19] We give occupancy permits for less, with people they shouldn't have them, or for more, that people

[2:47:26] shouldn't have them.

[2:47:28] So, what's going to happen?

[2:47:29] Does the building commissioner agree with that?

[2:47:32] No occupancy permit?

[2:47:35] Well, it doesn't matter if we have this agreement.

[2:47:38] Well, it does matter because there are audits and conditions and planning would decision to say no occupancy permit but he gets them anyway.

[2:47:46] So that's one issue, but what if

[2:47:51] Fitzgerald treats a public way?

[2:47:54] It's been a public way since hector was a pup.

[2:47:58] It was never fully developed in the middle of it because of the fact that it's a big hole.

[2:48:04] It was a gull.

[2:48:05] Now, when Sparing continued Fitzgerald down the other end, there were no better mints,

[2:48:14] but I believe he paid for that whole thing.

[2:48:16] under the town have to pay for that and develop the street because once the streets are already accepted whether it's

[2:48:22] paid a paved or not paved

[2:48:25] We own that

[2:48:28] And and if we own it let's those are our responsibilities

[2:48:31] Now I know traditionally there's a betterment clause where if you're providing when we provide a sewerage in the 70s

[2:48:37] When we buy your house you would experience time to connect to it and you had to pay for that

[2:48:42] So I don't know why Mr. Galvin's responsible for that

[2:48:46] So, I think in this case here, it's like when you do a development, the contractor usually puts in all the utilities and pays for them.

[2:48:55] I think this is just the same thing, but in reverse, that the town did the work instead of the contractor,

[2:49:03] then the contractor pays the town for the work.

[2:49:06] Maybe Mr. Gowon didn't have the equipment, but it's a public street, it's not a private street.

[2:49:13] No, I understand, but it's correct, but these

[2:49:21] things would have been done regardless,

[2:49:26] because the developer needs to put the infrastructure in order to put the house.

[2:49:32] So I'm just saying whether the contractor did it or the town did it, it's getting done,

[2:49:37] and this is what the cost is.

[2:49:38] Yeah, I agree with you in the concept of that.

[2:49:41] It does have to get done.

[2:49:42] Right.

[2:49:43] However, the legal piece really does, if Mr. Galham doesn't pay the $5,000, he's not

[2:49:51] being forced to pay, now a developer would be forced to pay the entire cost of getting

[2:49:56] the water line from more street all the way into the grid.

[2:50:01] He's not being asked to do that, so it's not really a true cost of the project.

[2:50:05] Well, he's paying for 126 feet of pipe.

[2:50:09] So we're kind of trying to make a hybrid.

[2:50:12] So he pays for something, but it really is, I don't know, I'm not going to ask you about legal grounds.

[2:50:18] But I don't know if Mr. Galvin's really responsible.

[2:50:23] Well, so through you, Mr. President, the statute allows us to charge the benefited member town for

[2:50:31] the specific work that we did that benefited them.

[2:50:33] So in this case, there's an existing water pipe, is my understanding, there's an existing water pipe that's serving the other residences.

[2:50:40] And this was an extension specifically for this property and those circumstances you are allowed upon a boat of the council to charge for that, but we don't have to. The town could simply pay for it if you don't want him to pay for it.

[2:50:51] Yeah, but if it's Gerald Street only had a thin like a two-inch lie like what an only could connect from your water main to the house going up the entire thing.

[2:50:59] So what they've done is they replaced it with a regular water main up the whole side of the syrup.

[2:51:04] So it was worked the town had a view anyway.

[2:51:09] As long as the amount is less than the increase in property value that his property

[2:51:13] received, as a result of the improvements, then the town is permitted to assess

[2:51:17] him that amount.

[2:51:18] And in this case, House Without Water is worth.

[2:51:22] So I do think that it's a legally permissible agreement, but it is entirely a policy

[2:51:27] call on the council's part whether this is something you want to just have the DPW pay

[2:51:31] as part of their regular operations or whether you actually want to make this assessment.

[2:51:36] And obviously the DPW has had conversation with Mr. Galvin.

[2:51:40] In fact, by understanding that Mr. Galvin approached the DPW and said that he would be very

[2:51:44] grateful to have water service and if there's anything he could pay for to assist in getting

[2:51:48] water service, he would like to do that.

[2:51:51] Sounds like a heavy commotion.

[2:51:53] Go ahead.

[2:51:53] Mr. President, yeah?

[2:51:54] I'd like to make a motion that the Council approved, Council Order 2019-048 betterment

[2:52:03] agreement for 48 Fitzgerald Street, according to the contract provided in the Council

[2:52:12] Order for the charge of $5,780.42.

[2:52:18] I think it's up to, right?

[2:52:21] Right, up to, right.

[2:52:23] Not to exceed.

[2:52:23] Motion made and seconded for the discussion.

[2:52:26] All in favor, please say aye.

[2:52:27] Aye.

[2:52:28] Opposed?

[2:52:29] Aye.

[2:52:30] Abstention?

[2:52:31] A to one vote, Councillor Burgess on the negative.

[2:52:35] Correspondence?

[2:52:40] I received an email from James Passman.

[2:52:44] On behalf of the neighbors of Chateau Park and Roy Cross Drive, please accept

[2:52:48] that thanks to both the DPW and conservation commission

[2:52:51] for clearing the brush and storm drain

[2:52:53] from the conservation property on Boycroft Drive.

[2:52:56] The property abuts the Kacheto River Watershed area

[2:52:59] and requires annual maintenance to ensure residents

[2:53:02] can read the no-dumping signs.

[2:53:04] And the storm drains remain clear of debris

[2:53:06] and drain into the watershed wetlands.

[2:53:08] We appreciate the work the DPW in Kong Kong

[2:53:11] has done for a neighborhood.

[2:53:13] Sincerely, Jim Passman on behalf of our neighborhood.

[2:53:18] I was also asked to read this by Council of Burgess.

[2:53:21] It was an email that was sent to the council dated August 24, 2019.

[2:53:29] It's from Sakeena Richards.

[2:53:33] My name is Ella Fias, Sakeena Richards, Jean Fia.

[2:53:37] I'm a Randolph resident, active member of the community, mother of two boys, a minority

[2:53:44] resident born in Jamaica with multi-racial ancestry.

[2:53:47] consider myself Jamaican. My husband is Haitian and Dominican, born and raised in Haiti. We have both

[2:53:52] United States citizens having first-generation born American children. Recently, I've decided to

[2:53:58] take my community involvement to the next level by choosing to be a candidate towards town counselor

[2:54:02] at Lodge in Randolph. This decision motivated by much pride and passion, having been a 17-year resident

[2:54:08] of Randolph. This motivation was recently shot down due to what I believe to be dangerous and malicious

[2:54:17] I believe that this attack entices violence against myself, which places my family in eye at risk.

[2:54:24] On Monday, August 19, 2019, Facebook user in Mattapan Tech Business owner, Jack Dottie Jean posted a vile statement twice regarding a Darnel L Williams to patch it from the urban league of Eastern Massachusetts and his excitement.

[2:54:39] Moving forward, I will refer to Jack Stady Jean as Mr. Jean.

[2:54:44] As a creator and admin of the Facebook group, Randolph United Activist, I commented under

[2:54:50] Mr. Jean's post, not for nothing, but you post in very controversial things, LOL, then

[2:54:55] later we can't sing almost the opposite about the person.

[2:54:59] It confuses me on where you stand.

[2:55:01] Mr. Jean responded in a lengthy post, which indicated, patients will tell a brother or sister

[2:55:06] to what they did is wrong, but we still have each other's back.

[2:55:10] Never get involved in our fight, we are bounding by blood.

[2:55:13] The dialogue turned into an argument, and we both exchange words as I was bothered by

[2:55:18] the strong language used to express patients being bound by blood and always sticking together.

[2:55:24] I responded in indicating that we are one Randolph.

[2:55:28] Mr. Jean appeared again under the same name, Madame Pantek, posting a picture over himself

[2:55:33] with counsel of clergy smiling.

[2:55:35] At this point, I realized this exchange with Mr. Jim, whom I've never met, was charged

[2:55:41] by Councillor clergy. Mr. Jean appeared again on the Facebook page,

[2:55:45] Randolph United activist, indicating that he and his associates will be shutting down

[2:55:49] my campaign page. Additionally, he posted a poster of me, which contained a privately-owned

[2:55:55] photo of myself. The poster read, my name is Shaqina or Shaqiki Rat. I will boycott all

[2:56:03] All Haitian businesses send police to any event associated with my opponent.

[2:56:07] I don't want digital literacy in my town.

[2:56:10] I will share voice recording and edited private conversation with town officials.

[2:56:15] Vote for me if you want Randolph to move backward.

[2:56:18] I hate my opponent, I hate her, I hate her, please help me.

[2:56:21] This poster was charged again, she had again in a Boston based Facebook group to which council

[2:56:27] Missile Acclerger is affiliated with and Mr. Jean Admin.

[2:56:30] Under the user name, Mattapian Community Partnerships, this poster was shared with the following message written in French Haitian Creole.

[2:56:39] Issues will never stop.

[2:56:40] This woman called the police to stop the Haitian festival.

[2:56:44] She told the police the Haitians are drunks.

[2:56:46] She started calling the police to cause problems for Haitian businesses.

[2:56:50] It is noted that council Acclerger appeared on this page, clicked and viewed this post.

[2:56:54] Facebook indicated user name Natasha Closure as a viewer of this post.

[2:57:00] A third attack was launched again by Council Closure and her associates at Matapantek Company

[2:57:04] on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 on the Matapant Forum Facebook through.

[2:57:10] This message written under the user name, Grand Moon Padri, red in both Haitian, Creole

[2:57:17] and English.

[2:57:18] I was kind of disappointed when Sakina Richards, Jean-Pierre, called police to disrupt

[2:57:22] a family gathering at Solo Live because the family is associated with council of clergy.

[2:57:28] Sakina Richards, Jean Pierre, is truly an annoying rat.

[2:57:32] She has attempted to boycott Haitian businesses in many occasions.

[2:57:37] Attacking Solo Live is considered attacking the entire Haitian community and is like attacking

[2:57:42] Manipedeck is attacking the minority community.

[2:57:45] Brother Jack, keep doing your great work.

[2:57:48] You have the support of council in Natasha.

[2:57:50] Closure can clip and has your black back. What you need that violin blank for. God is in your side, bro. The people of Randolph appreciate you and your wife.

[2:58:02] Facebook noted this post was clicked on and viewed by Facebook user Natasha Closure.

[2:58:08] This post has caused my self and my family great stress and fear all of my life to be specific, culturally calling someone a rat with reference to their communication with the police.

[2:58:18] is essentially evoking several sentiments, one of mistrust and one of violence against

[2:58:24] the individual. Council of Courgette has not publicly denounced or denied these lies.

[2:58:29] She has participated in viewing these posts and one can only infer if their name is being

[2:58:34] used to evoke a race-bake attack on another citizen they would step into correct false information.

[2:58:40] This was not done. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that not only was this stranger

[2:58:46] Mr. Jeane fed this information by council of clergy, but he acted on her behalf.

[2:58:50] A review of my community contributions will show I have aided in the advancement of

[2:58:54] patients and all people in this community.

[2:58:56] A review of my police interactions here will prove.

[2:58:59] I have never called the police on Haitian families or Haitian owned businesses.

[2:59:03] A review of my community involvement will prove I have never organized

[2:59:06] both boycotts against Haitian businesses.

[2:59:09] I believe the town council has a duty of care to put systems in place that

[2:59:13] and she was all members of our community assay.

[2:59:16] I believe the town council body should uphold this duty

[2:59:19] regardless of their dislike for community members.

[2:59:21] I believe the town council body should remain truthful

[2:59:24] according to ethical codes

[2:59:26] they abound by the state of Massachusetts.

[2:59:28] I have found that council of clergy

[2:59:29] is the mastermind behind this attack

[2:59:31] with entices violence against me.

[2:59:33] Compromises my duties

[2:59:35] per my employment as a public school clinician

[2:59:37] and a family therapist for the state who visits JL's,

[2:59:40] prisons, institutions, hospitals, homeschools,

[2:59:43] and other high crime areas in this state.

[2:59:46] I believe council of court of silence is an omission

[2:59:48] of participation in support considering she has been privy

[2:59:52] to the content on several platforms.

[2:59:54] I believe this acts that the president said

[2:59:56] it was okay for town council members to perpetuate racial

[3:00:10] I have received several phone calls this week, telling me to be careful. I am greatly concerned regarding the risk that Council of Persia has placed me in. I am calling on the town council to review my concerns, holding Council of Persia or Council as they see fit. For my protection, I have been in communication with the Randolph Police in Quincy District Court.

[3:00:29] I want to be clear that I am taking this racially charged attack seriously and I call on the Tom Council to investigate this matter as well

[3:00:37] Taking a stand against further devices and racially charged motives and attacks that continues to play out commuting at the hands of council for a

[3:00:44] Derrick. I am hoping for a private meeting with all council members to come to a resolution where I and my family feel safe in my community

[3:00:51] Where my child can remain safe as a public school student in this community where I can freely visit any Haitian business in this community without face

[3:00:59] I currently have a target on my back. I find myself checking my vehicle tires everywhere I go.

[3:01:04] Just worry about whether someone has come after me.

[3:01:07] This no longer a matter of political differences, but matter of my safety,

[3:01:11] being able to function in my community, participate in all I have invested in without fear or intimidation from council in Natasha Flurger.

[3:01:19] I look forward to hearing back from the town council majority voice president Adams and or town attorney on the town council

[3:01:25] to review on my concern as a resident and citizen,

[3:01:29] paying regards.

[3:01:36] Any other questions?

[3:01:37] Sorry, yep.

[3:01:37] Any other questions?

[3:01:38] Mr. President, Councilor Clinton.

[3:01:41] I did not receive that coffee sponge.

[3:01:44] Was that sent to all the Councillors?

[3:01:46] I didn't get it originally.

[3:01:47] Someone told me about it and forwarded to me.

[3:01:50] So I don't know.

[3:01:52] I imagine it must have been tried to be sent to everyone.

[3:01:56] I did get a copy of the email.

[3:01:58] right and I think you might have been the one that forwarded to me days later so

[3:02:06] there is a header on here that looks like it was sent to you but it may have a

[3:02:10] typo in it so he was not sent to me it was like it was do you want to see it

[3:02:21] sure everybody else received a copy I

[3:02:30] don't know what can I see it for a second my

[3:02:35] My town email was not working.

[3:02:41] This one's, oh yeah, it's all the town email addresses.

[3:02:46] Do the data is on there?

[3:02:48] You didn't get one there?

[3:02:49] No, I didn't do it.

[3:02:50] The 24th, I believe, of August, 12, 13 a.m.

[3:02:58] 12, 38.

[3:03:01] Do you have to have said no more correspondence?

[3:03:10] I think we talked a lot about tribe word already. Bill, I was at the meeting with you. Do you want to speak any more to it?

[3:03:17] No. I think Helen did a great job in the presentation. She spoke at length at what we did on Thursday.

[3:03:27] Yesterday, we do have another meeting on the 26th, where we'll be interviewing the

[3:03:37] design selection, going through the design selection process.

[3:03:43] So I'll be back to reports of one.

[3:03:47] Other committee reports.

[3:03:49] With the library, Liz sent me an email before this meeting started for some of the upcoming events.

[3:03:56] Voter registration, you can come to the library to register to vote on National Voter Registration Day on September 24th from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m., a huge thanks to the clerk's office for their collaboration on it.

[3:04:10] They have a library ice cream party, clever name there, in celebration of library card sign-up month.

[3:04:19] We're having a raffle in ice cream party on September 20th at 11 a.m.

[3:04:25] Stop by the library before then to enter into a raffle by signing up for a new library card or leaving a comment about how you use the library card you already have.

[3:04:35] There's going to be an author coming before us on September 28th at 1 p.m., for a discussion with Dr.

[3:04:43] Luneen Pierre-Jérôme, translator of Alice Walker's The Color Purple, Intahation Creole.

[3:04:50] And thank you to the Library Initiative for Teens and Twins for an $8,000 grant that

[3:04:55] money's being used to fund a filmmaking club, additional furniture in the heavily used

[3:05:00] team room and a collaborative mural with local artists Jamal Eversley, teens can submit

[3:05:05] their art envisioning themselves as superheroes for the mural to teen library and miss Melissa.

[3:05:12] And just to be clear, it's not stated in here, but we think of superheroes like Superman,

[3:05:17] but firefighters, police officers, nurses, I'm sure those would count just as well.

[3:05:22] Anything from schools?

[3:05:23] yes sir. The last school committee meeting last Thursday we had voted on new

[3:05:32] chairs for no subcommittees and they won the meeting before that to Thursday

[3:05:41] so come. I was August 26 if I'm not mistaken was the opening of teachers at the

[3:05:54] public schools and I'm kind of emotional so I'm sorry the day started with the

[3:06:02] the band the RHS band playing wonderful music and we have all faculty and

[3:06:13] staff were giving help me cancel a half-lamon we were giving like a color and

[3:06:19] in the number, provided in activities for the movie building activities.

[3:06:24] Yes.

[3:06:25] Wonderful.

[3:06:26] Yes.

[3:06:26] And of course, we want the ex-job team.

[3:06:32] We were team Blue 3 and yep, the best, of course, we were two counselors.

[3:06:38] We had to win.

[3:06:41] And so each group had a series of activities that had to involve team building like she

[3:06:48] said and the collaboration and activities were various and it addressed everyone whether

[3:06:57] you were very athletic or physically challenged so everybody was included.

[3:07:02] And the purpose of that morning was to welcome the teachers, welcome them back and then

[3:07:09] and we viewed the vision and the values

[3:07:12] and included values learning styles and choice.

[3:07:17] It was very fun.

[3:07:19] I had a lot of fun.

[3:07:20] Concealer Halflamon had mad fun.

[3:07:23] The teachers, everybody were there.

[3:07:25] And it was very,

[3:07:28] seeing how the superintendent set the tone

[3:07:32] of the studying of a great day.

[3:07:34] I commend her for that.

[3:07:35] And she hope everybody has a great school year.

[3:07:40] Okay, that's all for school, so the rest I'll do it.

[3:07:44] Question, Councillor Goldstein.

[3:07:45] Do you have the enrollment number, yet?

[3:07:49] She was right there.

[3:07:50] He asked her.

[3:07:52] She asked for something else.

[3:07:54] Okay, so enrollment numbers, because what they said,

[3:07:58] it's like kids keep coming every day, so they don't have to.

[3:08:01] Yeah, but at some point, the number, I just want to know the

[3:08:06] You know, whether we're up or we're down or even no, it's going up going up

[3:08:11] But I can't take it right now, okay

[3:08:15] And the other uh any other committee reports

[3:08:19] All right onto council comments. I'll start back with you counselor cliche. Um comics. Okay

[3:08:27] Cooking with Natasha is back. Yay

[3:08:30] Every Wednesday, 4.30 to 6.30, it's going to be at the

[3:08:34] swing of water's church for 3.47.

[3:08:38] 3.47, not main street.

[3:08:41] And it is completely free of charge.

[3:08:43] You don't need any kind of fees whatsoever.

[3:08:47] And we're hoping to get everybody, boys, girls, men,

[3:08:52] women, seniors, everybody's invited.

[3:08:56] And, contrary, from the community center where we could only have 15 people and then

[3:09:04] at the church kitchen, we can have as many as we can get.

[3:09:09] And the food and for-use distribution, this Thursday is going to be special because on

[3:09:16] top of the food and for-use, we're going to give you back to school items provided from

[3:09:24] and for the people who don't know who the citizens are,

[3:09:28] they are the volunteers behind.

[3:09:30] It's like an army of volunteers behind the food and food distribution.

[3:09:34] I'm not going to take credit for myself because we have a lot of people working together.

[3:09:41] Consular Ghostin, this report is for you as well.

[3:09:44] Thank you for your attention.

[3:09:47] Because your voice is coming out from the mic.

[3:09:49] Consular Ghostin?

[3:09:50] Yes, I have you. Thank you kind of disturbing because I can hear what you guys are saying

[3:09:58] Thank you

[3:09:59] English is not my first language is the sixth one, so please. Thank you

[3:10:04] Yeah, on top of giving you back to school items is gonna be a little party from four from two to four

[3:10:10] Where zoom by instructor volunteers are trying to come do some zoom by dance with us

[3:10:20] Last but not least, we have the ABCDs of self-sufficiency that's a program that I put together

[3:10:30] and I did send a letter to Superintendent Dia Stover because I wanted to do it at the young school.

[3:10:38] She takes this a great idea, so it consists of helping people who have been out of work,

[3:10:45] Like, single mothers, fathers, grandmas, if they want to go back to work and young kids too,

[3:10:54] I know the youth council is doing a great job and we want to include that.

[3:10:59] Like, exceed that to the whole town.

[3:11:01] Young folks who want to learn how to conduct an interview,

[3:11:06] how to write a resume, proper etiquette when you're going to a job interview

[3:11:13] or if you want to create your own business, we're going to sit down, which you first

[3:11:18] of all find out what is your passion because to create your own business, if you're not

[3:11:25] passionate about it, you're not going to succeed and then walk you through getting your

[3:11:30] EI number, fighting for the proper licensing with town and everything.

[3:11:35] So I'm hoping to get the youth council's support, everybody wants to support it and the

[3:11:41] and it is very excited about it.

[3:11:44] And we have two weeks, we want to back up it, back it up.

[3:11:48] And since we don't have the means yet,

[3:11:53] how to accept because I wanted it

[3:11:55] to be like a completely free thing.

[3:11:57] I didn't know people wanted to donate towards it.

[3:12:00] We don't know yet how to accept the money.

[3:12:02] I'm talking about with your humanitarian focus foundation,

[3:12:07] which is an nonprofit to kind of umbrella.

[3:12:10] the program, they're out at the United Nations and they're very excited about it.

[3:12:15] Once we figure it out, we're going to announce it at the young school.

[3:12:19] And this concludes my report.

[3:12:21] Thank you.

[3:12:22] Councilor Clinton.

[3:12:23] Thank you, Mr. President.

[3:12:24] Mr. President, as you were, the Bahamas was devastated by a horrific hurricane.

[3:12:33] And the country is in dire need of assistance.

[3:12:39] And as you were further, that Randolph is always in the front in terms of its humanitarian services.

[3:12:53] And so we've identified three locations where urgently needed supplies could be brought to.

[3:13:04] And so I want to thank Tom Manager Brian Howard for coordinating with me these locations,

[3:13:16] which include the Turner Free Library, Spring of Water, Christian Assembly, and Tony

[3:13:23] the Taylor's and dry cleaners.

[3:13:25] I spoke with the ambassador of the Bahamas and she is aware of what we are doing in

[3:13:37] Randolph.

[3:13:38] And she wanted to extend her gratitude and her country's gratitude, as you were the

[3:13:46] the U.S. Coast Guard has also been instrumental in terms of rescuing many

[3:13:57] Bahamians who are still in need of being rescued. It's still unknown how many

[3:14:05] fatalities they have been. The Minister of Health indicated that he's

[3:14:16] reluctant to give the number because it will be shocking and traumatizing for many of

[3:14:21] the Bahamian and Caribbean citizens.

[3:14:25] So I'm hoping that citizens of Randolph, as usual, could come together and please give

[3:14:35] whatever that they can give.

[3:14:38] The country is in desperate, desperate shape.

[3:14:42] Thank you, Mr. President.

[3:14:48] They say something about not wanting certain names like clothes don't send a lot of

[3:14:53] No, the two the two the two initiatives being launched one and I have that on my Facebook page a few

[3:15:00] If you want to make a contribution, financial contribution, there's some instructions that you follow. And if you want to donate clothing and so on and so on, supplies, there's another initiative. So there are a number of locations that have been identified throughout the country where citizens can take the various supplies.

[3:15:24] So President, quickly this, because I just received a text again, there's a resident

[3:15:30] that's been complaining about Gloria Ward, so I just want to ask the message so she

[3:15:38] would like her street to be looked at because it's been 60 years I think since they never

[3:15:43] did anything, so that's the text I just received again.

[3:15:46] Thank you Mr. President.

[3:15:47] Councillor Bridges. Thank you. I am supporting a T-shirt.

[3:15:53] Sir, it's easy to say. With Leo Cooney. This weekend was a great event of all walks

[3:16:01] of Randolph. Leo is suffering from ALS, Lou Gerricks. He's just a couple years old and

[3:16:06] I am. So I think if you like this T-shirt, go to Leo Cooney's site and you may be able to

[3:16:14] But it was a good event to a lot of random people, new, old, home like nine years, so it was really nice.

[3:16:25] When will we appoint, or have on our agenda, the appointment of Cheryl Sassas, the town clerk, make your permit?

[3:16:31] When is that going to happen? We have to ratify that appointment, correct?

[3:16:35] Any ratification would come, because it's a departmental position it would come, it would come with the town council correct.

[3:16:41] Do we know when this is going to happen? After the election?

[3:16:43] You know, oh wow, I've got to go through the process.

[3:16:49] So I haven't started the process yet.

[3:16:52] OK, just my opinion.

[3:16:55] Similarly, you were doing the job, but you deserve the job.

[3:16:58] She's doing the job.

[3:16:59] I think she deserves a job.

[3:17:01] So Erin, I would like to see it on the agenda at some point.

[3:17:07] We had a request on the Purple Hots signs.

[3:17:13] We just had a request for 300 dollars to fund them.

[3:17:17] I'm going to double check with, I thought that Renee covered through the Veterans Council in with some funds that have in coca-cats.

[3:17:29] So I got a double check on that, but my understanding is I mean, it's short money.

[3:17:34] It's certainly something that during the presentations play what they will support.

[3:17:39] Yeah, you'll reach out to Jerry Guilta.

[3:17:42] Yeah, I said there wasn't any communication with Mr. Guil.

[3:17:47] But I'll look further into it.

[3:17:50] A few weeks ago, I asked you to get me some information, and I don't know how you want to handle it, but.

[3:17:57] A few weeks back, I requested if I want to lick a violation of 61 Pleasant Street.

[3:18:01] It's a commercial building primarily used as an adult daycare setting, and I believe it's licensed somehow by Department of Health, Public Health.

[3:18:10] On our about July 2nd, 2019, a one-day liquor license, now we don't want to give liquor licenses to go to the licensing board, was requested by Council of Natasha Closure, doing business as our company.

[3:18:23] The license was given by licensing board without a public hearing, which is required by law.

[3:18:29] And without the paperwork being completed, at least there isn't any in the office.

[3:18:34] On July 6th at 61 Pleasant Street, a party was held allegedly using this one day liquor license,

[3:18:43] even though the actual physical license had never been issued.

[3:18:47] Around 11 o'clock or so, the Randolph police responded to 61 Pleasant Street after seeing strobe lights,

[3:18:55] which is a sign of fire protection going off.

[3:18:58] Upon arrival there, there were individuals who were at the party and are running the party

[3:19:04] who were actually in the act of dismantling the fires of the Persian system in the Alam.

[3:19:11] They have been fined, I believe, by the fight of Alam, you can confirm that, please.

[3:19:16] They actually went to deactivate the fire system.

[3:19:20] There are more than a few concerns, but let's start with a couple.

[3:19:25] The licensing board must hold a public hearing, which they didn't.

[3:19:29] And that, that the voters voted in the charter, the role of the licensing board.

[3:19:37] And not only is it the charter, but it's chapter 138.

[3:19:40] The law says a one-day liquor license can only be given for non-profits, which she is not.

[3:19:50] 61 Pleasant Street is an adult day kiss center, and it's not a venue for

[3:19:59] entertainment to look or anything else. So I'm concerned how we choose to, where we're

[3:20:04] going to have one of the events. We have a fire report stating the attempt to dismantle

[3:20:10] the fire box, which I believe all other counselors received. We have a police report that states

[3:20:16] upon the returns of station by the officer, the dispatcher advised the officer that he

[3:20:22] received a phone call from said counselor who wanted the police to leave and allow the

[3:20:28] party to continue, which is in the police report,

[3:20:32] the public has an expectation that our

[3:20:35] liquor policies and laws are going to be upheld. So I'd like to know, one, if this council

[3:20:42] is going to take any action relative to licensing board, I don't know if there is any we can't

[3:20:48] take, and what action is going to be taken to ensure that the liquor policies are going

[3:20:55] to be upheld.

[3:20:57] You may not have the answers tonight, but that documentation is here, and so I would

[3:21:05] like to respond to some point.

[3:21:09] I'm assuming you don't want to deal with that right now.

[3:21:12] I would have to do some additional work.

[3:21:15] Okay.

[3:21:17] Just a couple other things.

[3:21:19] Our I-O-I-S-B-A and ownership and pride, they are sponsoring a close partnership

[3:21:23] I think the haunted Hayride and Trick or Trunk this October, the 25th and 26th.

[3:21:28] The 26th is for the Trick or Trunk, which is in coordination, again this year, with the Randolph Community Center for the Children's Halloween party.

[3:21:37] We have the event, well, I'll have to deal with that on the wreck.

[3:21:43] Invets, the POWA breakfast is at 10 a.m. on September 22nd, and that's all I've got.

[3:21:52] Councillor Allen Exopolis.

[3:21:54] Thank you, Mr. President.

[3:21:56] Brian, I received an email from a resident who lives at one Army Street.

[3:22:03] They have a tree in their backyard.

[3:22:07] I don't know if it's their backyard, but somewhere along the property it has two guide wires from

[3:22:15] poll number six on Wilson Street and they wish to have that tree cut down but

[3:22:24] you have two guidewires in it so can we get it. Can I touch on this because he called me?

[3:22:30] Okay, I mean it's a national grid issue that needs to be addressed by

[3:22:35] national grid because they have to secure that poll on Wilson Street. We have

[3:22:42] Keith looking at it because they went out and actually viewed the property to see

[3:22:46] where it was if it was actually in his or Oz or whatever, and it's a healthy tree.

[3:22:50] So I asked Keith to kind of have that conversation with them, but right now they're not in the market to cut it down.

[3:22:56] Okay, but if they cut it down, they own a cut it down, then they still have to put a telephone call on this property.

[3:23:01] Yeah, they have to do something.

[3:23:03] I don't know if they have to put a, it's, poll number six is like right at the corner of the street.

[3:23:08] So you don't have to probably put a link to me.

[3:23:11] He says, put a poll across the street as a guidewire poll to hold the poll across the street.

[3:23:18] I think Keith is trying to convince that it's in their interest to address this issue.

[3:23:26] So I'll look into it.

[3:23:27] Okay.

[3:23:27] It's one army.

[3:23:28] It's one army street.

[3:23:29] I haven't talked to Keith.

[3:23:31] I said, I got the email on the sixth, I went down and took a look at it over the weekend.

[3:23:37] and saw what the homeowners was talking about.

[3:23:42] The other thing that I wanted to let everybody know

[3:23:46] in town is my church in Brockton's

[3:23:50] Ponce is an annual food festival.

[3:23:52] It's the Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church.

[3:23:55] It's at 257 Oak Street.

[3:23:57] And they have a food festival on September 19th

[3:24:02] through the 22nd, that's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

[3:24:05] with the hours being Thursday 11 to 9, 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Friday and Saturday 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. and Sunday noon to 6.

[3:24:16] So if you want some good homemade Greek cooking, come on down. I'll be there somewhere cooking.

[3:24:23] What were the dates again? You can have that sent electronically to us please.

[3:24:27] Absolutely. I'll send a flyer.

[3:24:30] Thursday, the 19th through Sunday, September 22nd.

[3:24:39] I'll send this live.

[3:24:40] Thank you.

[3:24:41] That's all I have.

[3:24:42] Councillor Affleman.

[3:24:43] Thank you, Mr. President.

[3:24:48] So last week, was it last week, the Haitian Chamber had a wonderful networking event, and

[3:24:55] I just wanted to thank the Chamber for having this event.

[3:25:00] and I think it was a great opportunity to meet businesses

[3:25:04] in the Asian community, and just to talk to individuals.

[3:25:08] So I appreciate that event.

[3:25:15] I'm writing any word on North Street.

[3:25:20] There's lots of work that's being done around the community.

[3:25:25] I was under the impression that it was gonna be done Friday.

[3:25:27] That's why I-

[3:25:28] you would text me right right I'm gonna follow up again Keith was out the

[3:25:32] majority of the day okay today I saw him here at the meeting right I haven't

[3:25:38] had an opportunity to speak to him as to why didn't occur when we thought it

[3:25:43] was but I would think that it's gonna happen shortly because all of South

[3:25:47] Main Street was taken care of on Friday so really yeah okay so North Street though

[3:25:53] have a couple of places where that has not been

[3:25:57] But I anticipated that it was going to be done then.

[3:25:59] So I'm going to find out.

[3:26:01] All of North Street.

[3:26:02] That's my understanding.

[3:26:03] OK.

[3:26:03] All right.

[3:26:03] Thank you.

[3:26:04] All right.

[3:26:05] Because the resident actually called me today.

[3:26:07] So I appreciate that.

[3:26:08] The other thing, Brian, there's a flu season initiative

[3:26:13] that's, and I know Jane is no longer with us.

[3:26:17] And I think this is something that she started.

[3:26:19] So I'm wondering if that will still be going through.

[3:26:22] Oh, those still be flu questions.

[3:26:23] OK.

[3:26:24] Oh, yeah.

[3:26:24] OK.

[3:26:25] Excellent.

[3:26:26] Thank you.

[3:26:32] Lastly, we have on Thursday, this Thursday, I want to get the flyer up so I can see there's a community meeting on the water issue hosted by myself and Councillor Clifton 630 to 8 o'clock.

[3:26:47] I think it would be a nice addition to what happened today, and those who were unable to tune in or unable to come to the meeting, this is another opportunity for to hear about the water issues, but I think it would be a nice collaboration of what was said today, and what will be said on Thursday, and this meeting will be at RICC 128 Pleasant Street, and I think I said 630 to 830.

[3:27:17] please come by if you have not had an opportunity to learn about some of the

[3:27:24] water issues and how we are hoping to keep the community informed. Thank you.

[3:27:32] The President, I've got a quick question about sidewalks from Mr. Howard. I

[3:27:36] noticed the corner of North Street and Oak is also being done. With that

[3:27:44] What impact the plan is that public safety has been working on?

[3:27:50] The work that you're seeing or the work that's been getting done, Mastio T, has initiatives

[3:27:57] where they've been going out into the communities and ensuring that the ramps but the grades at

[3:28:11] the end of the street to the sidewalks are appropriate and in some cases they

[3:28:15] weren't and that's where you're seeing the repairs and enhancements that are

[3:28:18] going on. Yeah, we'll have to rip it up again when we do. I can't say for sure

[3:28:27] tonight how that would impact what the council had previously voted. I have to

[3:28:31] take a look. Yeah, I mean the whole curb line changes so yeah. We use the

[3:28:36] material. So isn't it be done in coordination with us? I know that they reached out to the

[3:28:44] DPW superintendent and I reached out to him after Councillor Mahern reached out to me. But

[3:28:53] previous to that, I didn't have information on that.

[3:28:58] All right. Thank you.

[3:29:00] Can I just on the roads?

[3:29:03] Can we take a look at Kylie Drive?

[3:29:05] It's in a pretty bad shape.

[3:29:09] See if I don't know where it is on the list.

[3:29:12] But if we can be looked at and see if something can be done

[3:29:16] temporary while we get it on the list,

[3:29:20] if it's not every day.

[3:29:22] Do you have one more thing?

[3:29:24] Thank you, Mr. President.

[3:29:25] And I also want to congratulate eight Randolph Youth Council members who are now off the

[3:29:32] college.

[3:29:33] This is the first meeting that I've had the opportunity to celebrate that they have

[3:29:40] graduated from school and they're in a number of different colleges, but it is so proud

[3:29:45] that the majority of these members, youth council members, were part of youth council for

[3:29:52] since the beginning and now our alumni of the Randolph Youth Council and we're...

[3:30:00] We are extremely proud of them. And I'm also, I'm, I'm happy that, um, Jimmy, that you're doing the Halloween piece, because I know that's something that we did last couple of years, but due to all, uh, youth count, or the majority of the youth council members graduating, you know, we are now looking for new youth council members.

[3:30:26] Really, they're wonderful. Um, so,

[3:30:29] Well, they will be a flyer out on Facebook very soon, or you can definitely contact me

[3:30:39] if you have a child that's interested in being part of the Youth Council.

[3:30:43] Thank you.

[3:30:44] Thank you, Mr. President.

[3:30:46] Councilman's office.

[3:30:47] Thank you, Mr. President.

[3:30:48] We'll surprise no one touched based on it tonight, but the other day, Congresswoman Presley

[3:30:55] made an appearance here in town and I was a little disappointed in the lack of leadership

[3:31:01] by our council president, vice president, in the lack of communication and grandstanding

[3:31:07] that took place during that.

[3:31:10] It unfortunately, negatively affected residents, especially residents in my district and

[3:31:15] in Arthur's district whose voices and needs and issues weren't voiced to the Congresswoman

[3:31:25] It was also a little embarrassing that Tom Andrew Howard wasn't invited that our state

[3:31:30] delegation wasn't there and that the residents as a whole weren't invited.

[3:31:36] So I was greatly disappointed with that and how it wasn't effectively communicated to

[3:31:42] the rest of the council.

[3:31:45] Another thing, Randolph police is hosting their second annual charity golf tournament.

[3:31:51] It will be this Sunday at the Eastern Country Club, the Petrolman Association, the Union rather local 18 puts on a great golf tournament.

[3:32:01] They use the funds for their charity events throughout the year, and I greatly suggest that the residents try and help out, whether it's donations, local businesses doing the same.

[3:32:12] If you're interested, I hope Troman Kevin Gilbert is spearheading it with

[3:32:18] the Troman Matt Rodman and it's a great event for a great cause. And then Brian

[3:32:27] I got an email I'll help forward it to you from a resident on Howard Ave about

[3:32:32] tree condition. You can take a look at that. I'll forward you the photos that she

[3:32:36] had sent me. Thank you. Just a point of personal privilege on I the

[3:32:42] the point, Councillor Zapolis made, you know, I responded to a personal invitation, spoke

[3:32:47] with the Congresswoman. Immediately following that meeting, I sent the contact information

[3:32:53] for any Councillor who wanted to reach out and discuss their issues. I'm – I'd be

[3:32:58] disappointed as well that I didn't receive an invitation, but I don't think you could point

[3:33:02] to myself for any sort of grandstanding. So that's what I take issue with.

[3:33:07] On social media photos on it, though.

[3:33:10] I posted nothing, Councillor Goldstein.

[3:33:13] No.

[3:33:14] Councillor Goldstein.

[3:33:15] For those older people in the audience, you'll probably remember, some of you will remember

[3:33:21] the movie Cool Hand Luke, all right?

[3:33:26] And the warden at Cool Hand Luke, in Cool Hand Luke, said to Paul Newman, you have a failure

[3:33:32] to communicate.

[3:33:34] Let me address the failure to communicate.

[3:33:38] Recently there was an open letter to the public from certain councillors Ray, the disappointment

[3:33:45] with not having a scheduled council meeting, and our disagreements should be discussed

[3:33:54] by all of the council, rather than social media and other publications.

[3:34:05] Thank you, Mr. President, I have a few things for Mr. Howard.

[3:34:09] Do we have an update on the Rick leadership posting at this point as they're going to

[3:34:16] be a re-or, is that public?

[3:34:20] The Rick leadership, now that Jovan is gone, is there an update on that currently?

[3:34:26] I suppose community programs in general.

[3:34:30] RICC?

[3:34:31] Yes.

[3:34:35] As I had communicated by e-mails to the council a couple of weeks ago, we, I have lack of

[3:34:45] a bit of a charge, the Library Director, Liz Larosi, and our Finance Director, Janine

[3:34:54] Smith to conduct a review of the operation,

[3:34:59] both from a financial standpoint,

[3:35:01] but also from everything from programming to staffing,

[3:35:04] to, there will actually be a community survey

[3:35:09] that will be going out in the next few days.

[3:35:14] So we can continue to get some additional input

[3:35:17] from the public.

[3:35:19] We're trying to make sure that as we take that

[3:35:24] That next step, what that next step should be, I think it's clear that there are tremendous

[3:35:34] positives with the community center.

[3:35:36] I think we still have issues that we can, the one thing we've heard a number of times,

[3:35:42] for example, when the dancing school came here was, okay, I have a child who is 70 years

[3:35:48] of age.

[3:35:49] However, separate of the dancing class, there isn't other things for me to want or need

[3:35:54] a membership. Okay, well what can we do to do to do what we do better? So Liz has been

[3:36:00] doing, she's been giving me an update weekly anyway but she's doing a further final review.

[3:36:07] I am impressed with the body of work that she's been doing. I will say that the community center's

[3:36:16] staff is very proud of what they do and the sense I get is they want to work with us as we move

[3:36:23] forward with the community center, but we definitely have to look at what we do and how we do it and I felt that if I just went out and hired another director and didn't look at okay, the last year and a half to two years, where are we going, how are we getting there, I wouldn't be doing due diligence.

[3:36:48] I certainly did not want to just fill the position until I determine what I think is in the best interested community to do so, so that is ongoing.

[3:36:57] In the meantime, Liz also serves, if you will, as the interim director, as do I.

[3:37:03] So if there's any questions from the staff, they reach out more likely to reach Liz and if there's any issues, they reach out to me.

[3:37:10] Not going to avoid everything's been moving quite well.

[3:37:13] Thank you.

[3:37:16] Is there an update I don't know if this may be redundant from the meeting that I missed

[3:37:22] last time on the talks with Senator Chimalti, Jeanine, and Thea with the budget gap that

[3:37:33] we got from that?

[3:37:34] Sure.

[3:37:34] Yeah, basically we had a second meeting with the

[3:37:41] the folks in Dessie that Senator Timmelty put together

[3:37:46] with our state reps that were present.

[3:37:50] They are and this kind of ties into office earlier question.

[3:37:54] They're not even going to discuss options with the

[3:37:56] communities until after October 1st because they want to know

[3:37:59] exactly what the attendance numbers are statewide

[3:38:03] in all of the school districts and when I say all the school districts that

[3:38:06] includes the charter school districts because there were some changes in the

[3:38:11] formula which we've talked about here that I've highlighted with the council.

[3:38:15] So we don't know we've made our case but they and we made our case and they

[3:38:23] did tell us we were the first community to actually come in and make its case

[3:38:28] which was nice to hear, but they haven't determined yet

[3:38:32] what that standard is going to be to get those additional funds.

[3:38:35] And they're not going to make that determination's laugh for October 1st.

[3:38:37] We're hoping by being as aggressive as we were and making the case

[3:38:42] that as they come up with this formula, they're going to use for that $15 million

[3:38:46] that they'll consider communities like Randolph and the needs that we have.

[3:38:54] The first training path for me is I think what's happening is is that there are some newer

[3:39:01] communities dealing with charter schools for the first time because there's some additional

[3:39:05] charter schools that opened.

[3:39:07] So I think there's kind of a rush to help them deal with it first, but we haven't quite

[3:39:14] helped finish helping out the communities that have been dealing with it for 10 plus years.

[3:39:18] And there is no community that I could find that has had the spike that we've had over that 10-year period.

[3:39:26] Most communities had that spike leveled off.

[3:39:29] But once they doubled the size of the charter school in Rockland Hall,

[3:39:36] if you also show a charter, and then they opened up the charter school in Brockton,

[3:39:42] it was, it had a very, very detrimental effect to us.

[3:39:46] So we had, try to school open 10 years ago,

[3:39:50] then we had it double in size,

[3:39:52] and then we had a brand new one open up

[3:39:54] within that same category.

[3:39:56] Our big concern, and I wanna thank Superintendant

[3:39:59] during the discussion,

[3:40:01] she really highlighted, we're at a point now where we're capped.

[3:40:05] Finally, so the damage isn't gonna get me worse.

[3:40:09] That's great, that's a good thing.

[3:40:13] But we wanna make sure that if they don't fix

[3:40:15] the funding formula, you're going to run the risk of some of these communities that

[3:40:18] finally have been able to do what they need to do to start to follow behind again, and

[3:40:23] then the cap is gone, and then all of a sudden we're dealing with a very repetitive cycle

[3:40:28] and that would not be a good thing.

[3:40:30] So, about more to come, about more to come.

[3:40:35] The last thing I have for you is I was talking to a resident at the farmers market a few

[3:40:42] Wednesdays ago, and they brought up the issue of students crossing along Memorial Parkway

[3:40:49] through the medium, right across the landscaping, and it's not just students, but at the time

[3:40:58] there's just a lot of students and a lot of traffic.

[3:41:02] And I wonder if we could do something that wouldn't compromise the visual integrity of landscaping

[3:41:12] there if there was an invisible sort of like netting that we could or some sort of solution

[3:41:17] we can come up with where there his problem was I should back up was that he couldn't

[3:41:22] see the students coming out of the median one way or another and almost hit a student because

[3:41:29] they were jumping out obviously not in a crosswalk and if there was a way to prevent folks

[3:41:36] from crossing if that was you're saying they were crossing across the median right either

[3:41:44] I mean, knock on wood, that doesn't happen often because I drive that all the time, but

[3:41:52] it does happen, but it doesn't happen often.

[3:41:55] I'm not sure part of the reason it was designed the way that it was was to make it so that

[3:42:01] folks wouldn't want to travel through the bushes and over the trees.

[3:42:05] We trim them.

[3:42:06] When they trim them, they just, they trim them back too much.

[3:42:08] They try to keep them like meat.

[3:42:10] They shouldn't be meat.

[3:42:10] There should be more kind of, just let them go.

[3:42:12] You know, the hard part is that they are always trying to deal with when people pulling out of

[3:42:17] Shaw's and they're taking a left or a right, then, you know, they want us to train

[3:42:21] you further.

[3:42:22] So we go to a lot of competing and-

[3:42:23] Yeah, most of that Brian, though, when you get down, I mean, if you're keeping an eye,

[3:42:27] just on that Shaw's piece, right where you, the traffic, the big traffic like when you exit

[3:42:32] Shaw's, but the rest of it, especially by the admin building, you know, people do that

[3:42:36] all the time.

[3:42:36] And you can see the going path.

[3:42:39] You're saying doubt.

[3:42:40] I'd have to go look.

[3:42:41] I mean, I, I, I can say is it's rare that I see somebody

[3:42:44] crossing the hill part of it.

[3:42:46] But, um, I mean, when I was a teenager at Randolph High,

[3:42:51] those didn't exist.

[3:42:52] But I can tell you that if they did,

[3:42:54] depending on how much of a rush I'm, I probably

[3:42:56] would have been not effectively getting over it.

[3:42:59] So I was a big kid then too.

[3:43:00] But, um, what we'll see we can do.

[3:43:02] Um, it's, it's a tough, it's a tough thing to manage.

[3:43:04] here. Oh thank you. One other thing I wanted two other things I wanted to

[3:43:12] mention were the farmer's market has a few more Wednesdays before it closes

[3:43:19] for the season so get down there Wednesday power farm, power farm three to

[3:43:25] seven. I am doing a book program the majority of the Wednesdays down there so if

[3:43:33] If you do have any used children's books, I'd love to take them off your hands and I

[3:43:38] give them back free to the community.

[3:43:41] I am looking for other events after the farmer's market to set a booth up, working with the

[3:43:47] library as well to help expand that program to help promote literacy and reading.

[3:43:53] It's very near and due to my heart.

[3:43:55] And then the last thing I want to mention is just to take a moment out of everyone's day

[3:44:02] on Wednesday just to remember the victims of 9-11, you know, it's going on a while now

[3:44:10] that that took place and happened and it should never be forgotten as many days in our

[3:44:18] history that are dark, have not been and I don't think we should forget that as well.

[3:44:23] So I just wanted to mention that I don't know if the, I'm sure the Elks are doing something

[3:44:29] I haven't heard that they are but they may be in something on social media. I believe

[3:44:34] it's a 10-30. 10-30? On that day, right? On that day. It's

[3:44:38] always the day of. Yeah, because I know I've been to the Elks before when

[3:44:44] they do something but I hadn't heard about this year so if you can get down to the

[3:44:47] Elks they do raise the flag. I believe I don't know what they'll be doing

[3:44:51] exactly this year but in the US past they've raised the flag down prayers so on and

[3:44:55] and so forth, 10-30, I suppose at the Elk's, thank you for that.

[3:45:00] So if you can get down there, if not, you know, taking your own time to remember and thank those first responders who earn our life and take that risk every day. Other than that, yeah, I'm good.

[3:45:30] reason, whether it was more successful or more people knew about it, but there's a great

[3:45:35] turnout inside from the community, great turnout for the summer, I hope we can attract

[3:45:42] more vendors in the next few years, but the attendance has been fairly good the weeks

[3:45:48] I've been there.

[3:45:49] And also being inside you can do it all year long, right now.

[3:45:53] Yeah, I mean, that's something to look at, not in charge of that, but yeah.

[3:46:00] I just want to give a huge shout out to the Randolph-High Blue Devils.

[3:46:04] They won their first football game of the season 50 to 6, bigger blow than the Patriots

[3:46:09] last night, so very exciting there.

[3:46:12] So go and support them as best you can.

[3:46:15] Also we already talked about a number of events coming up, whether it's the band coming

[3:46:21] before us or coming for competition this Saturday.

[3:46:25] I strongly urge everyone to check out some of the programs, the Chamber of Commerce is putting on it really has been revitalized with Jeanette's leadership, and she's doing an excellent job over there.

[3:46:40] And I want to counsel against points I want to touch on somewhat somber.

[3:46:43] Of course, it is the anniversary of September 11th coming up, and we often throw around the phrase, never forget ever since the day it happened.

[3:46:51] And this year, I hope we never forget how everyone came together during that trying

[3:46:57] time.

[3:46:57] And I hope this council can remember that as well with some of our struggles to come together

[3:47:04] and unify.

[3:47:06] So with that, I'll listen to the adjournment.

[3:47:09] All in favor?

[3:47:10] All right.

[3:47:11] Meeting adjourned.

Town Council Meeting 9-9-2019

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