[0:33] Well, let's call this meeting to order. This meeting of the advisory planning commission

[0:37] is regular meeting held on the 18th of August, 2026, here at the council chambers at City

[0:42] Hall. And if you wouldn't mind, join me in being upstanding and we'll say the Pledge

[0:48] of Allegiance.

[0:51] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for

[0:56] which it stands, one nation under

[1:03] the command. Please be seated and thank you very much.

[1:05] Well, the roll calls pretty straightforward this evening.

[1:09] We're missing a member.

[1:10] George reached out ahead of time.

[1:12] And so with your approval, we can make a motion to do that,

[1:16] we would excuse George's absence.

[1:18] I swear it's legit.

[1:20] So moved.

[1:21] Thank you, sir.

[1:21] Is there a second?

[1:22] All those I think we stand with.

[1:23] There's all kinds of person.

[1:24] Yes, there is.

[1:27] All those in favor of approving that absence, please, AI.

[1:29] Aye.

[1:30] Anybody opposed?

[1:31] Great.

[1:31] Thank you.

[1:32] We've an agenda for this evening's meeting.

[1:35] I hope you had a chance to take a look.

[1:36] And I wonder if anybody would like to make a motion to approve it. Thank you very much, Brian. Is there a second I'll second that thank you

[1:44] Brad any comments questions?

[1:47] Hearing none all those in favor of approving the agenda. Please say aye. Aye. What opposed and the minutes from our last meeting very

[1:57] Detail rich minutes from our last meeting

[2:00] Having had a chance to look through them and of course thank the person that put them together

[2:05] When anyone care to move approval or or make an amendment beforehand

[2:10] So moved to approve as presented.

[2:12] Thank you, Sue, is there a second?

[2:16] Any comments, questions?

[2:18] Hearing none, all those in favor, please say aye.

[2:20] Aye.

[2:23] We are up to item six on the agenda, a public comment period.

[2:26] We now invite anyone to share their thoughts on the topic, not on the agenda.

[2:30] We welcome all opinions and ideas.

[2:32] Appreciate you stating your name at the lecture.

[2:34] And remember the personal attacks may be ruled out of order.

[2:36] You will have up to three minutes to comment,

[2:38] and we appreciate your time coming tonight.

[2:40] Does anyone have any comments to make about an item not on the agenda?

[2:45] Yes, ma'am, please step to the mic and Vicki say who you are.

[2:53] Vicki Jo Lambert, Ward 4. I'm here because I am a member of the City Council.

[2:59] And I wanted to address you all at once in public too, because I have still big feelings about multifamily housing in our community.

[3:08] And as most of you know, I was part of the process with coming up with RM3.

[3:13] I completely agree with that, but my invitation for us is to consider as I went into the last

[3:20] meeting with a yes-vote.

[3:23] And as I heard what Becky had to say about the options for what could happen with RM2

[3:29] as opposed to RM3, at the last moment I said no.

[3:33] But I want you to know how much I do support multifamily housing.

[3:36] And I think the Bayview site is an appropriate site for all that we have been talking about.

[3:44] And I absolutely trust the process.

[3:46] And I trust our staff because they're highly skilled and they've been doing this way longer

[3:50] than I ever will.

[3:52] And I also am listening to a number of members of our community.

[3:57] And those people who are in our community, I want them to feel like they do have a

[4:01] voice because they do.

[4:03] And I was listening to them as well.

[4:05] So as complicated as I feel about that decision, I wanted to let you know why I said what I said.

[4:13] And I continue to support multifamily housing and I continue to support a multifamily rezoning for the Bayview area.

[4:22] And I'm going to invite you as a commission to revisit that if you are willing, if that's an option.

[4:28] I don't know the process.

[4:30] but I'm inviting you to do that because I think if we talked about that as the RM2

[4:35] that we had discussed earlier or if there could be similar I get I don't

[4:40] know the right word but if there could be a similar thing called guardrails

[4:44] up on RM3 so it looks similar to RM2 even with that increased density that

[4:50] would be my invitation for us to revisit and look at so that people in the

[4:54] community don't get so uptight about the people running away and doing things

[5:00] and I don't think they will but I think at the end of the day when we're looking

[5:03] at what what is best for everyone involved my invitation for us is to

[5:08] consider that

[5:10] thank you thank you thank you thank you very much a nicer guy

[5:14] would have led with a more formal council member Lambert please come up

[5:18] and say something but thank you thank you very much for your comments any

[5:22] other any other comments tonight we're hearing on what anyone care to make a

[5:26] motion to close the public comment period thank you very much is there a

[5:30] second second thank you for that too all those in favor of closing the comment

[5:34] please say aye we're

[5:39] off to item 7a a public hearing on a request to

[5:42] rezone parcel can

[5:47] we call it Burnside Steve you're up thank you sir

[5:57] I'm

[6:07] somewhat familiar because we just had a very similar project right across the street out here out on Prairie Island on Chakya Street.

[6:14] This proposal is a public hearing for a rezoning to rezone 1808 Chakya Street from Egg Residential AR to R1, so single family residential.

[6:32] The homeowner here is looking at replacing the home on the site.

[6:36] So demoing the home and putting a new home on the site.

[6:40] The existing AR zoning would not allow the new home to go on the site without a variance due to setbacks because of the width.

[6:49] It's only about 100 feet wide.

[6:51] And so just like all the other homes on Choccia Street in this area that are within the city's jurisdiction,

[6:59] They are looking for an R1 zoning.

[7:02] They're already hooked up to Prairie Island's water and sewer system.

[7:06] They already get access from the road, which is part of the Tribal Road system out there.

[7:12] It's not a city of Red Wing Road.

[7:14] And so if you recall a couple meetings ago when we did the rezoning across the street,

[7:20] we got letters from Prairie Island indicating that they'd be able to hook up the new parcels

[7:27] that were being created with the subdivision and the rezoning. We've

[7:31] asked those of Prairie Island now and they're working on those as well and we

[7:34] really as staff have no concern that Prairie Island isn't going to allow this

[7:40] existing homeowner to hook up with the with the new home. So we should have

[7:46] those hopefully by tomorrow or Thursday and we'll get those into the

[7:50] council packet if you board along. We feel so comfortable with that we

[7:55] didn't even put a condition of approval into your recommendation tonight. But

[8:01] very very consistent with the trend out there since Prairie Island has the water

[8:07] and sewer we've had several other homes in the area hook into their system where

[8:13] otherwise we would not allow a home to be built on that site because we

[8:19] require two and a half acres for a well-inceptic which most of these

[8:24] parcels don't have out here. So again we have put together some suggested

[8:28] findings of fact for you to support the change in zoning from AR to R1 and we

[8:37] are recommending that tonight for you to make that recommendation to City

[8:40] Council and if you do have any questions I'd be willing to answer them.

[8:45] I do I did include a came in a little late one

[8:52] Letter of support for this which I will read once you open public hearing or just comment on but just to let you know

[8:58] That did get in the packet. So it's in the official packet, but it was a little bit late coming soon

[9:06] All right, any questions for mr. Cohen before we open the meeting

[9:10] Public hearing of course is what I meant. We're already open. Thanks for not pointing that out

[9:15] Great hearing none. Let's open the public hearing or remind

[9:19] Everyone who wishes to speak remind us that everyone who wishes to speak will be allowed to do so

[9:23] We'll limit our comments to three minutes or less. All statements should be directed to the chair

[9:27] They should be factual. We should refrain from repeating what's already been said not involve personalities

[9:32] Before speaking, please state your name and address for the recorder and after the close of the public hearing

[9:37] No additional testimony may be offered except in response to questions from the Commission

[9:42] So with the hearing open, are there any comments or anybody online to make comments?

[9:49] Any public comments about it?

[9:50] Yes ma'am, please.

[9:54] You needn't state your name again for the record.

[9:56] You're the same person that was just here.

[9:58] Thank you, sir.

[9:59] Yes.

[9:59] I appreciate you.

[10:00] Chair Sieberg.

[10:02] So I just have a, this might be a simple or weird question, but I'll ask another one.

[10:08] I'll have to ask it later.

[10:09] This doesn't change the property line at all, correct?

[10:12] No.

[10:12] There's just it's just exactly where it is right now if there's no subdivision involved with this just the rezoning

[10:17] Okay, so that so a new house can be built because it's right next door to someplace where I spend a lot of time

[10:23] So it's just double-checking. Yeah, there's no change in property lines

[10:26] It's just a matter of zoning and same use is going to go back on the property perfect. Thank you. Thank you very much

[10:33] Any other comments any other comments? I'm still not seeing a single soul online

[10:40] Steve this might be a good time if you don't mind to summarize the comment you

[10:46] did receive. I know you all have copies of it and I actually put written copies or

[10:50] printed copies on the desk in front of you. We had one comment come in prior to

[10:57] the public hearing from Corey Western Boy and if you remember she was the

[11:02] property owner right across the street that rezoned so she could subdivide her

[11:07] parcel into three so she had a nice letter there just supporting the rezoning

[11:15] request so again I'm not gonna read it but it's very very well stated supports

[11:22] the need for the rezoning out there for this property owner and she supports it

[11:27] thank you sir well for a final time any other public comments were hearing none

[11:34] anyone care to make a motion to close the public hearing? So moved. Thank you. Sue was there a second? I'll second that. Brad thank you for the

[11:40] second. All those in favor of that closure please say aye. Aye. The opposed? Great. The hearing's closed.

[11:46] Commissioners, what would you like to do next? I

[11:52] think it's pretty straightforward. I don't have any comments and

[11:55] move to accept it as written your three zone 1808 Chuck yes street from AR2 R1

[12:04] there's a motion I would second that motion a second to approve it just as it

[12:09] was presented in the packet given to us by those kinds folks at development any

[12:14] comments or questions it seems like we've been here before with a couple

[12:18] other properties so yeah pretty easy we're hearing nothing in addition all

[12:25] in favor of approving that motion. Please say aye.

[12:27] Aye.

[12:28] Anybody opposed?

[12:29] Great. Motion carries. Thank you and thank you, Steve.

[12:32] We're up to a status report from the staff.

[12:36] Anything you'd like to report from your part of the world?

[12:39] Not really. Just a couple real quick comments.

[12:43] Kyle's been working more on the Jefferson School RFP,

[12:47] but it sounds like there's a ton of interest.

[12:49] And you could be seeing up to somewhere near 10 proposals coming in

[12:53] when when those are due and so there's been a lot of interest sparked by the

[12:59] Port Authority's kind of due diligence prior that made some developers a little

[13:05] more comfortable in coming in so that is one thing I also want to mention you

[13:09] might seem some mobilization going on down at the farmer malting building and

[13:14] so hopefully that demolition is going to start very quickly here they're

[13:19] trying to start getting some equipment on site and trying to get some work

[13:25] started.

[13:28] Please, yes sir. Asking for a friend.

[13:33] Any any information on parking

[13:36] timeline for that or needs for the teardown from parking along Broad Street

[13:42] there? Yeah at some point we'll have to have a pop done to block off some of

[13:47] that during that part of the demolition.

[13:50] I think most of the stuff that will happen

[13:52] in the near future is gonna be some internal stuff

[13:55] bringing out some equipment,

[13:57] but walls won't be coming down

[13:59] from what I understand maybe in the September.

[14:03] So, but there will be a time that they'll have to bring

[14:06] that in to block that off just for safety.

[14:10] When too, Brian, you're looking for like a perspective

[14:14] of time for his members right for parking. Put some information on like hey by the way. Yeah there

[14:22] would I think believe it will have to go through the council for that one to block the street off

[14:28] for that long of a period I think. I'm trying to think there's certain levels where it goes through

[14:33] council and where it doesn't but obviously we don't want anybody to get hurt or their

[14:38] vehicles to get damaged so it might be a point where it comes it's blocked off

[14:45] building gets demoed and then you can park there again while they're in a

[14:50] different stage but you know between the equipment cranes everything that's

[14:54] going to be needed to do that project you know two levels of parking and

[15:00] Or five stories on top of it. There's going to be some big equipment sitting down there

[15:05] for quite a while while that gets constructed.

[15:07] Do you foresee at all that it'll be the whole street for a while?

[15:12] No, I think it would just be the part. I think they would, from what I've heard,

[15:16] they'd keep Broad Street open. It would just be the parking stalls that would be

[15:20] blocked there, right along the sidewalk. So the sidewalk and the parking

[15:25] installs. Worst case, it would turn into a one-way. I wouldn't see them closing all of

[15:30] Broad Street.

[15:32] Do I have a talk for the trucks?

[15:35] Well, thanks. I appreciate it.

[15:37] Thank you, sir. Well, we can move to item 8B, which is Commissioner Comments. Have you

[15:43] any?

[15:44] I just want to commend the Port Authority for their outreach. I think that they did

[15:48] great job in soliciting RFPs or putting RFP out there and getting it seemed like it was more

[15:58] accurate.

[16:02] I don't know how did this if I can I don't know the process either. So two comments

[16:11] earlier is what would that process look like if it came back to this community for rezoning

[16:18] option or yeah the RM3 and then I would also ask do we actually have authority

[16:26] to put something in place that has guardrails or are we only able to in this

[16:30] committee rezone? No you could look at RM2 or you could look at redoing what

[16:37] RM3 is and what your regulations are but really the only reason there was

[16:41] guardrails on Jefferson School is because the Port Authority controlled

[16:45] the property. If it's privately owned you can't put conditions on rezoning. You

[16:52] couldn't say yeah we're gonna rezone it to this if you do this or that. You would

[16:55] have to go back and do a tax amendment and change the RM3 to something totally

[16:59] different that would affect not only that site but the Jefferson site and the

[17:04] Briarwood site too because those are the only three you know two are zone that

[17:09] way now in the third one you know as you know did not get approved in that

[17:13] manner. So doing those guardrails in that sense would probably mean a text

[17:18] amendment or are just going with RM2. Okay, that's why I asked that. Thank you.

[17:23] Appreciate it. Thanks for that clarification too. Well, hearing nothing

[17:29] else, I, unless there's an objection, I wonder if we can't adjourn. Well, I think

[17:33] we can. Thank you all very much for your time today. And we are adjourned.

[17:38] That's going to be one of the quickest meetings.

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