[0:06] morning ladies and gentlemen

[0:12] welcome to the regional regional council meeting city of Richmond

[0:18] L.

[0:19] and ... at this point time and all will call

[0:22] meeting to order and ask us to stand for the

[0:24] national anthem

[1:07] C.

[2:07] thank you

[2:14] we now have an opportunity for a public forum

[2:18] 5 minutes speakers if not

[2:20] but they're not on the agenda and anyway

[2:24] server to come up and

[2:26] their name name and address please

[2:29] Ahmadinejad the staff at the Mike

[2:41] and we have a distributed some information here here comes

[2:45] on everyone my name is Johnny I live in tool

[2:48] six Brookside road Richmond hill ... today on behalf of

[2:52] Yang born in the retina surgeon I'm making the speech

[2:55] tomorrow the planning department is scheduled to release the life

[2:59] young boarded up he said in the past the proposed

[3:03] density value grew six percent

[3:06] the population that's the way you preschool about the fifty

[3:10] four thousand people per kilometer wall five hundred forty five

[3:15] people her attackers

[3:18] to use the whole crew easier practical these proposed population

[3:22] density let's look at a species cannot log put put

[3:26] on the fifteenth up most of the dance community in

[3:29] Canada the coffee for

[3:32] I think the topic here is the list of top

[3:34] fifty items of a small but I keep calm before

[3:37] every console and the

[3:38] I can't so if we look at the table

[3:41] finally caught fifty does it even caught fire you for

[3:44] category fourth year reason of death is only one action

[3:48] committee system teams topped the polls committee in parental use

[3:53] up all five hundred plus the practice I also have

[3:57] a night ... tall high density committee the data from

[4:00] three hundred to five hundred actors

[4:02] president for hackers well in that national

[4:07] eighteen verify does the committee from two hundred to three

[4:09] hundred Russia perhaps only eighteen twenty two high density hi

[4:14] I need a hundred if you have a hundred feet

[4:16] deep twenty people prior to our meeting hi this is

[4:20] Lisa walked up proposed that is on top of these

[4:24] does the next Sunday's top national record you might as

[4:27] well those that seek him trail noticed that the only

[4:30] problem I have one of these thank you for the

[4:32] poorest communities in Canada

[4:35] right now let's see you see you when you redo

[4:37] people hot for fifty percent used to run a call

[4:40] fifteen

[4:42] even if you call the special hot the school record

[4:45] pop fifteen couple thirty percent certain that he's young we

[4:50] didn't propose that if he did you have racked up

[4:54] sixty so right now you yup we did no I

[4:57] mean place contract policies right now my

[5:02] the highest

[5:05] right right now

[5:07] is about a hundred sixty to four hundred thirty six

[5:09] resident for hackers

[5:12] not happy you are you should feel right on the

[5:15] highest density sixty what one of these days

[5:25] please note this company sizes similar to PDA is all

[5:29] about twenty five or more next I'm not talking the

[5:32] big it was postmarked so is a compatible right now

[5:35] you can only speak T. come he's the Daddy about

[5:39] one hundred fifty people or perhaps you've got a proposed

[5:44] proposed a national record right now all you all if

[5:47] you wi fi know any place placed so high ...

[5:51] that downtown Toronto no such records

[5:58] sorry public where X. accuracy

[6:01] for this company you see the future plans yeah we

[6:04] don't have complete high school I think very highly of

[6:07] high density and ...

[6:10] 19 high density

[6:12] one of the key here a modest nineteen that's only

[6:15] a hundred to sixty people her characters not a five

[6:19] six hundred

[6:21] number

[6:25] yeah one of the least leasing that does the your

[6:28] needless for me to see what I mean is the

[6:32] residential class job you can see a lot of high

[6:35] rise in downtown

[6:37] what the most obvious beauty is often

[6:42] the hospitals they don't need our schools that's why the

[6:45] Barack

[6:47] but you were wrong

[6:49] only one place to resolve the density

[6:57] we know this CD has restarted I W. D. two

[7:02] idea the report to start report what I want you

[7:05] want your ability but remember don't know numbers I also

[7:12] got all those hundreds of thousands of people kind of

[7:15] this country you know what this means

[7:21] all

[7:22] we cannot increase the density of population density target actually

[7:27] you'll see the young me to propose ways on this

[7:30] page only one job for the city residents where are

[7:35] we to fifty thousand for the sixteen

[7:37] until I see if we can see if the requirement

[7:41] why are you stil polls and that's the record for

[7:45] what we should what's behind it

[7:48] but I didn't get it okay just one minute finished

[7:52] at all okay it's

[7:54] that's this coming out I thank these opportunities to give

[7:58] you more for this is a scandal what do you

[8:01] think scale also benefiting the scandal right now all the

[8:06] arsenal that's a hundred people goals with former TV which

[8:09] Intel and user parking buddies you'll want to release these

[8:14] black I'm not a hundred other people in the world

[8:17] last April com movie after the promotion what the consequences

[8:22] you like to gather okay this is why all Asian

[8:25] form

[8:27] right now

[8:29] if you use a day off profession

[8:32] okay thank you Sir

[8:36] thank you

[8:40] it's rare but US forces speak public forum not on

[8:45] the agenda

[8:49] she's not she's not

[8:52] I'm sorry are you on the agenda

[8:55] I'm not about

[8:57] yes because I'm trying to

[8:59] your delegate then we have to wait to concern itself

[9:06] hello my name is merry great and I live a

[9:09] pretty one rough on crescent between Phil and I have

[9:11] been here in Richmond hill since nineteen eighty three in

[9:14] a lot of growth I'm here to represent ... towards

[9:18] York community choir and we have

[9:23] are you I'm sorry it's not yes we're trying to

[9:28] figure out ... you you did you signed up to

[9:32] speak

[9:33] nope okay the tax base okay okay fair enough I

[9:37] guess okay I used to speak in support of the

[9:40] cultural grant and Richmond hill Mister mayor I know it's

[9:43] if you could please explain if you're here to speak

[9:46] about an item that is currently on the agenda you

[9:50] can speak later this portion I'm sorry Mr that's outside

[9:53] this person is for members of the audience to speak

[9:56] to something that is not on the agenda business that

[9:59] is not in front of us today is the opportunity

[10:02] for this period the cultural grant is on the it's

[10:04] on the agenda

[10:06] you can speak later okay sorry Mr marriages for clarified

[10:10] so strong that

[10:11] you can clear

[10:18] okay

[10:20] there's no one else wishes to speak that is not

[10:22] on the agenda

[10:24] council announcements

[10:27] west

[10:32] I thank you Mr mayor I just a couple of

[10:34] quick things ... I just wanted to give a shout

[10:37] out to everybody that was able to attend the regional

[10:39] winter carnival I was R. fifty third sorry fifty second

[10:43] getting ahead of myself here ... it was the weekend

[10:46] before last great weather ... we appreciate all the support

[10:50] that we received from the ... the community and also

[10:52] from the sponsors thank you very much ... mother nature

[10:56] didn't give us ice this year but he promised me

[10:58] that she would have it next year and that's fine

[11:01] ... I would also like to thank the our staff

[11:04] that they are consistently ... there to support the event

[11:08] it is a community event but the ... the staff

[11:11] in Richmond hill is very much supportive of that and

[11:13] and comes out every year and doesn't excellent job so

[11:16] commissioner I'd like you to pass that on to the

[11:18] ... public works staff that were there and also ...

[11:21] like to just mention that on Sunday we had out

[11:24] in the Bayern mental symposium at the theater I was

[11:26] able to host that with another community member ... well

[11:30] attended some good speakers and death I would just point

[11:33] that I'd like to just highlight there was a really

[11:35] interesting ... conversation with second harvest that came to is

[11:39] one of the speakers and it was really incredible the

[11:42] ... this the statistics that the speaker was ... talking

[11:46] about with regard to food waste and ... I very

[11:48] much look forward to exploring that a little bit more

[11:51] ... and and having them have a bigger presence in

[11:54] our community because I it's unbelievable the numbers and it's

[11:58] not just food waste it's also greenhouse gas emissions and

[12:00] so on that that that represents so ... it was

[12:03] it that was in and of itself is a very

[12:05] interesting moment I I'd like to bring that to the

[12:08] attention of a wrap my colleagues as well so thank

[12:10] you

[12:12] thank you so much

[12:14] ... today just a quick as a food distributor of

[12:17] matching the engage with second harvest and courage of the

[12:19] people do second harvest as well ... on January eighth

[12:23] was a ... incident in Iran where flight seven fifty

[12:27] two was shot down the culture for those that don't

[12:30] know ... in that ... just to go a little

[12:33] history there for those winding hundred seventy six people died

[12:36] in that incident directly in the on the flight all

[12:40] those hundred seventy six fifty seven were Canadians not the

[12:43] of the hundred seventy six hundred thirty eight how to

[12:45] die rechte Canadian attachment of which at least eighteen had

[12:49] a direct Richmond hill connection putting many vendors we have

[12:52] some storage that's not what I'm discussing the culture there

[12:56] is that the we had a has a a respect

[12:59] for the incident and forty days after the incident is

[13:02] when ... another memorials being taking place and we were

[13:06] going to do another memorial in Richmond hill but we've

[13:09] decided to work we being the people who worked on

[13:12] that memorial on the sixteenth ... there's going to be

[13:15] A. I. and ... engagement at the North York to

[13:19] look out for that in the last ten square and

[13:21] I ask if you can't come at least remember because

[13:24] it was a tragedy and ... it is a solemn

[13:27] areas so hopefully you keep those ... the souls in

[13:30] your prayers thank you

[13:32] if you can supply

[13:35] thank you Mr mayor and ... I want to make

[13:38] two announcements one is on February twenty ninth Mr Maher

[13:42] ... the ... city of Richmond hill has challenged the

[13:47] province in a basketball game ... to raise money for

[13:51] a local youth basketball organization called play forever I believe

[13:58] a run by a young gentleman by the name of

[14:00] Muhammad and the the objective of which is to raise

[14:03] money so that these ... these children these youth cannot

[14:08] play basketball and get them some uniforms and shoes and

[14:11] so on ... we've raised quite a bit of money

[14:14] so far want to keep that a surprise for the

[14:17] actual evening ... the basketball game is ... February twenty

[14:21] ninth at ... Richmond hill high school and ... everybody's

[14:26] welcome to come in and be a spectator cheer and

[14:29] cheer for the city and ... secondly ... I'm hosting

[14:35] a ... skating go party at ... the Richmond green

[14:40] skate trail the the the very next day ... which

[14:44] is a March first ... between eleven and one at

[14:48] the skate trail Richmond ... green and they'll be our

[14:52] free pancakes and hot chocolate for everybody who attends so

[14:56] I I hope everybody can come out and enjoy the

[14:58] day with us thank you Mr thank you

[15:03] seeing no others ... introduction of emergency time sensitive matters

[15:09] see any counselor where I have to ... one of

[15:13] the coming open session the other elected on closed session

[15:16] for a ... has to with a with a staff

[15:19] member has to with regards to a ...

[15:24] I'd like to have a private camera talk about a

[15:26] situation with a staff member that needs to be done

[15:29] in camera

[15:31] okay Virginia to describe what it is when we go

[15:34] on camera so we need to

[15:38] 57 mera camera certainly if

[15:46] if ... it at this time he would be a

[15:49] motion for ... council to decide whether these two items

[15:53] should be added to the generator to lose one open

[15:56] session at a conference session close sessions ... if you

[16:01] said staff members so I can craft the motion the

[16:03] open session matter please counsel the open source has to

[16:06] do with on ... January the eleventh we had a

[16:10] ... rain incident that went in January eleven January twelfth

[16:14] for there's up to fifty millimeters of water that went

[16:16] through York region had a sewer backup and ... that

[16:20] affected all the sewage system in Richmond hill and the

[16:23] back flow went through to number number members of the

[16:26] community and we want to make sure that people hi

[16:29] res this last time the councils were brought together will

[16:31] be propped yet again but ... we have to make

[16:34] sure your pension ... because ... just warming up to

[16:37] the what we have to do thank

[16:44] yeah so the the ... just just in terms of

[16:47] identifying individuals

[16:49] yes okay so for the open one we have ...

[16:52] mover and second ... counselor

[16:54] hello

[16:56] 4 I'm just calling it the flood okay

[17:02] and the closed

[17:06] there's a different vigil

[17:19] okay so Sir moving this is your second goal of

[17:24] the yeah okay thank you

[17:35] the clerk review

[17:38] we will be dealing with that until we get to

[17:41] the closed session portion right

[17:43] as far as providing what it is

[17:46] as we move on at this point that we get

[17:48] this right I'm going to go okay

[19:09] waiting for yes your worship right thank you all the

[19:14] five major Star City confirmation either from Mr Croker for

[19:18] you all day service center for any discussion on close

[19:23] session ...

[19:26] is it not also requirement that notice be given

[19:30] prior to the close session

[19:32] I'm just saying off

[19:35] caution I know we can do it within the meeting

[19:38] but at best to be sure that we are living

[19:41] within the confines of all the ... ... require legislative

[19:48] and also all final framework

[19:52] for you perhaps I would direct that to ... I'll

[19:55] ... ... status on a sitter

[20:04] thank you to Mister Maher ... is there is not

[20:08] to my knowledge ... any requirements for advance notice ...

[20:13] specifically or talk about personal matters and matters of identifiable

[20:16] individuals ... and in the absence of a legislative provision

[20:20] requiring such notice as long as council considers this a

[20:23] time sensitive matter it can add it to the agenda

[20:25] thank you I appreciate that it is good that you

[20:28] have to assurances ... thank you thank you

[20:32] okay it is on the screen this one time

[20:36] this is a 2 time sensitive matter

[20:42] yes No Way Senate yes go ahead

[20:44] thank you Mr master you to the mover at as

[20:47] far as I know ... ... with regards to the

[20:50] introduction of emergency and time sensitive matter is there a

[20:53] specific criteria as to why ... emergency instructions in the

[20:58] matter should be added to the agenda those include legal

[21:01] and financial so I'd like to ask through you to

[21:04] the move out can you please explain what the financial

[21:07] and legal ...

[21:10] Mattis o'shea on each one well I would I would

[21:15] like to know if that according to our procedural bylaw

[21:17] there is a it is a very specific definition

[21:20] to introduce emergency and time sensitive matter

[21:23] financial and legal

[21:26] all right okay for first time since 2

[21:30] I'm sensor for the one we have people who have

[21:32] ... garbage that needs to be thrown out we have

[21:36] garbage days every two weeks ... we only have a

[21:39] certain type of counsel once a month if we wait

[21:43] until report comes back and forth people are gonna have

[21:45] garbage I don't think the resins one garbage all throughout

[21:47] the community that's that's fine so I think that works

[21:50] with regard to the section where of this also so

[21:53] chances are the right option the issues that we're we're

[21:56] involving him we were involved in now

[21:59] okay spoke to the other okay thank you thank you

[22:04] all right

[22:06] this is before us all those in favor of

[22:10] this motion

[22:12] up

[22:14] carries unanimously

[22:17] all right who will move on to adoption of the

[22:19] agenda

[22:21] so now I have those two items added to our

[22:23] agenda

[22:25] the motion over in a second ... for adoption of

[22:29] the agenda ... Jenda has is now

[22:33] photo consular affairs thank you all those in favor pulls

[22:38] Kerry thing

[22:40] disclosures of can interest in the general nature there ...

[22:45] consular service and follow it right so

[22:51] thank you Mister may I wish to read the statement

[22:54] I once again declare an indirect pecuniary and conflict of

[22:57] interest regarding agenda item thirteen point five the twenty twenty

[23:02] community and cultural grants program as I did before out

[23:05] of an abundance of caution as per the munificent years

[23:09] of a conflict of interest act the NCIA the code

[23:12] of conduct and as proprietor legal advice due to my

[23:16] associations or affiliations with the number of the named organizations

[23:20] seeking public grant money which must be approved or denied

[23:23] by counsel I have deemed it would be a conflict

[23:25] of interest for me to participate in any formal discussions

[23:28] or decisions regarding this particular agenda item I know a

[23:33] profit from any of those associations and affiliations nor do

[23:37] I receive any monetary compensation from them what so ever

[23:41] I am seated ... participate in these organizations in my

[23:44] identification as a Richmond hill councillor purely on a volunteer

[23:48] basis and I do such with integrity and honor I

[23:52] trust my public statement made here today February twelfth would

[23:55] ensure the protection and sanctity of my oath of office

[23:58] and the reputation of those organizations to which I am

[24:01] affiliated thank you

[24:04] okay

[24:06] elsewhere west thank you as is my responsibility as a

[24:09] counselor I will also need to declare a conflict of

[24:13] interest on it Gend item number thirteen five I am

[24:16] a volunteer in a leadership position on the volunteer board

[24:19] of directors of one of the organizations that is on

[24:22] the list for receiving a grant ... potentially ought to

[24:25] be abundantly clear ... this is a volunteer position and

[24:28] there is no direct pecuniary interest because like so many

[24:31] volunteers I receive no money for my actions in this

[24:33] position however out of an abundance of caution and to

[24:36] avoid even the appearance of a conflict ... but more

[24:39] so out of an abundance of respect for the integrity

[24:42] of the process of choosing grant recipients I will step

[24:45] away from voting on this matter

[24:48] all right

[24:53] disclosures okay we are now going so you're never going

[24:56] to adopt at previous council minutes council meeting zero one

[25:01] twenty held on January twenty second and council public meeting

[25:06] zero

[25:07] two twenty held on January twenty second twenty twenty eleven

[25:13] mover in a second ... for both of those kinds

[25:15] of questions cancer service

[25:18] in comments seeing none all those in favor of

[25:23] identification of items requiring separate discussion items to be discussed

[25:29] ... a phone number

[25:31] here we have

[25:34] and this is just a quick ... I think from

[25:36] the point of view we have two items thirteen three

[25:39] five is the operating budget

[25:41] that was brought ... budget council our budget committee sent

[25:45] here and we also have thirteen twelve which is a

[25:49] memorandum from ... David dexter director financial and I would

[25:54] suggest that there are some ...

[25:58] update and revise recommendations so if we combine these two

[26:02] together and deal with them is one item okay so

[26:04] fifteen three five thirteen twelve

[26:07] we also have ... thirteen for based on the demolition

[26:12] requests were Jefferson school house

[26:15] thirteen five being the community and cultural grant program that

[26:20] we've ...

[26:22] and then also we have thirteen eight which is Richmond

[26:25] hill climate change actions

[26:29] all that is all that I have here unless other

[26:34] people ... members want to remove items to be discussed

[26:38] a server errors

[26:40] I would like to speak to item thirteen point seven

[26:44] private street naming thank you okay

[26:48] he has cancer well it is thirteen point three point

[26:53] five ... excluded from consent

[26:58] 1520

[27:00] okay

[27:02] that's that's what I was trying to confirm the thirteen

[27:04] three five now at twelve I'm sorry ... thirteen for

[27:07] thirteen for thirteen point four delegation delegation okay for

[27:14] yes

[27:16] any other the

[27:20] for for discussion

[27:24] seeing none mention I asked her I can I will

[27:28] read

[27:31] okay those are

[27:33] no

[27:36] okay so those are the items so seven ... wanted

[27:39] to we've dealt with so thirteen ...

[27:45] 123

[27:48] now we have 6

[27:55] 78

[27:57] 7 sevens in sorry

[28:00] also

[28:02] thank you SO 9

[28:04] 10111314 and 15 are

[28:11] other ones it's not for discussions or whatever mover and

[28:14] second for those items

[28:17] transaction so it's near almonds all those in favor

[28:24] and honestly Cecil if you were if you were visiting

[28:29] here today based on I think you're here for all

[28:31] the ones that we're going to have a discussion on

[28:34] if you're not in the slightest doubt with councils dealt

[28:37] with

[28:42] we have no interest no presentations but we do have

[28:46] delegations

[28:50] Mister Palmer shoes

[28:52] I'll try that again if you recognize that name product

[28:59] sorry

[29:01] with

[29:05] thank you former borough councillors ... I appear here last

[29:10] January twenty second to advocate for the preservation of the

[29:14] Jefferson school hours on young street

[29:17] the historical society's goal was to participate in a discussion

[29:22] that would lead to a denial of a permit seeking

[29:24] the demolition of the building and see the beginning of

[29:27] work leading to the preservation and hopefully restoration of this

[29:30] historic structure

[29:33] ... I I don't think we need to repeat your

[29:35] argument here that this building warrants the city's protection

[29:39] the heritage value of such a structure with well documented

[29:42] when it received its heritage designation from the town in

[29:45] nineteen eighty two

[29:47] and we feel the passage of time has only served

[29:49] to increase the value our view is that such an

[29:52] extraordinary connection to our past warrant celebration and certainly not

[29:57] demolition

[29:59] now we're aware that discussions have been underway since a

[30:03] January twenty second council meeting regarding possible options that would

[30:07] see this building preserved and restored and we know that

[30:11] the structural condition of the building offers some challenges

[30:15] we also know however that such challenges can be met

[30:19] that any number of heritage buildings have been successfully restored

[30:22] and remain as useful reminders of our past

[30:27] the society's view is that our goal of preserving the

[30:29] historical value of the Jefferson school house could be achieved

[30:33] in a number of ways

[30:35] the building to the left word is restored for any

[30:38] number of users

[30:40] the building could be left on the side or possibly

[30:43] move somewhat and restored in order to become part of

[30:45] a larger project

[30:47] for the building could be relocated to another site and

[30:50] restored as a stand alone structure or indeed is part

[30:53] of another larger development

[30:56] the Historical Society doesn't underestimate the level of commitment

[31:01] operation that would be required to see the Jefferson school

[31:04] house preserved

[31:06] the city investors and contractors would all have to work

[31:09] together to see any of the option most I've referenced

[31:12] above come to fruition the result however would be a

[31:16] very public and a very positive display of our collective

[31:19] will to see our past celebrated yet contribute to Richmond

[31:23] hill's ongoing development

[31:26] the Jefferson school house represents an opportunity for Richmond hill

[31:30] to be very visible example of a community that values

[31:34] its past and works hard to make up faster ...

[31:38] integral part of its present and its future

[31:42] in closing the Richmond hill Historical Society hoaxes demonstrated their

[31:47] options but demolition need not be a solution

[31:51] our goal is the preservation of the Jefferson school house

[31:54] there are a number of ways to achieve that goal

[31:56] there are many Richmond hill citizens who applaud that result

[32:01] please remember when it's gone it's gone forever

[32:06] thank you very much

[32:08] thank you

[32:13] thank you for the suggestions

[32:17] Mr will help make

[32:20] Sir

[32:34] good morning fiftieth members of the city council of my

[32:40] adopted community actually of the community restrict up to me

[32:44] and my family your delivery location some weeks ago in

[32:49] the last council meeting motivated me S. a retired professor

[32:53] of history to pay a visit to the site it's

[32:57] always helpful not just to look at papers staff reports

[33:01] but look at the site

[33:03] that I can make sure to put two paths that

[33:06] that the

[33:07] the first one I looked around the building it is

[33:10] cropping days no question

[33:13] it is beautiful in the matching different breaks

[33:18] all entrapped yellow InStyleTime it is crumbling at the corners

[33:25] and in fact that's a foundation but it's somewhat tough

[33:28] job to be done there's no question

[33:31] I went inside insight is to play in square a

[33:37] rectangle room which is

[33:41] so simple that you can see this one room schoolhouse

[33:46] I could see actually imagine the deaths the L. eighty

[33:51] test simplicity has its top

[33:55] that is the third part of my exclusion

[33:59] I went outside and looked at the property which is

[34:02] it actually amazing why who's a south of the building

[34:07] and then across the street and the construction site and

[34:11] I look back and I'd like to share this with

[34:15] your

[34:16] it's from Google I'm not I'm in the nineteenth century

[34:22] dress and so on thousands with feel good anymore

[34:25] the what I no Dey sloths what I could see

[34:31] now yeah I don't have my pen here excuse me

[34:35] I have to take my column is

[34:38] I imagine when I stood on the other side

[34:42] the road to

[34:43] on the west side of young I could imagine

[34:47] if the economy gets face enough space I thought he

[34:51] did calling out in the back

[34:54] the town houses in the back or even sort of

[34:58] accountability

[35:00] and I could see

[35:04] modern buildings framing six little halls and in contrast to

[35:08] the reproach of the governed

[35:12] C. H. whatever

[35:14] what I DO that this old building doesn't have a

[35:18] place anymore I thought what is this young generation me

[35:22] as an old man still have hope for the help

[35:25] of functions of contest my granddaughter would never agree with

[35:30] this argument but always say pizza pop to me grandpa

[35:35] this is grandpa transparency stability

[35:38] this building has the potential exactly a place not being

[35:44] moved somewhere else to Richmond green lights at train station

[35:49] to make to be a living history black black

[35:55] ... not just the fact this was a place Mister

[35:58] Jefferson it in Basra but for people driving up

[36:02] on yes did you okay there is a complementary opposite

[36:07] contrast

[36:09] and I'm sorry I don't know whether the also also

[36:11] reflected Sierra but I totally agree my blood pressure was

[36:16] going up to the state's argument the pamphlet isn't around

[36:20] anymore this building at eight setting

[36:25] can be a historical living plaque for the development of

[36:29] a handed to a village to a town to a

[36:34] city

[36:36] this is something we can visualize yep

[36:40] and I'm saying this because I'm quite encouraged by the

[36:44] development of the old town hall at the corner of

[36:50] young and Wright state

[36:52] ... when I started my career of being interested to

[36:57] what you guys do ... events look at this this

[37:01] is a lively place today which problem no it's it's

[37:05] amazing it's vibrating people experience it you can someone come

[37:09] and meet me there yes well I can meet your

[37:16] any for somebody not F. I can see in this

[37:20] little baby coffee house

[37:23] I can't see some see well I don't know whether

[37:27] it's economically feasible and how to do it but couple

[37:30] notes gives an example it's with swipe to preserve the

[37:36] Jefferson school house it's a place where eight piece thank

[37:40] you

[37:43] thank you

[37:49] okay ... ... thirteen for one council rally U. S.

[37:53] to speak

[37:56] thank you Mr mayor and thank you for the delegates

[38:01] I don't believe there's any one

[38:04] there wants to see the Jefferson school house

[38:08] demolished

[38:10] because as the gentleman solid quickly stated once it's gone

[38:14] it's gone forever

[38:17] D. the challenge I have

[38:20] is that

[38:22] we have the rights of the city versus the rights

[38:26] of the property owner

[38:30] without going into great history I've spent hundreds of hours

[38:34] in that building

[38:36] I think it's a magnificent building

[38:40] I think it should be preserved

[38:43] the challenges we have is that

[38:46] how do we as a council

[38:49] impose

[38:51] our beliefs on a landowner with his property and his

[38:55] money

[38:57] it's very challenging if you put yourself in and the

[39:00] owner's shoes and say

[39:03] I'm struggling here I'm paying all these taxes I have

[39:06] limited use of limited resources

[39:10] and

[39:12] maybe that owner doesn't see the value and the historical

[39:16] building

[39:18] so

[39:20] the challenges

[39:22] I think we all agree let's let's preserve this building

[39:26] but the powers given to us from the government from

[39:29] the the province

[39:31] is that we can say yea or nay to a

[39:34] demolition

[39:36] we can't make them fix the building we can't make

[39:41] them fix it to the standard we want we can't

[39:45] make them make it accessible to the public

[39:50] we don't have that kind of power hasn't been bestowed

[39:54] upon us

[39:55] so we have to work collaboratively with the owner

[40:02] as a basic principle I don't think we have the

[40:06] right

[40:07] to impose our will

[40:10] on a property owner

[40:12] to make him do something against as well

[40:16] and I say this for all

[40:18] heritage buildings

[40:22] the facts are

[40:24] that we have given three demolition permits to designated heritage

[40:28] buildings during this term of of office

[40:31] and ... myself and several members of counts that I've

[40:35] spoken to have I have not received one

[40:38] one complaint from the public there was no outcry that

[40:43] we're destroying our heritage buildings

[40:46] this one is a special building

[40:50] I would go against my general principles and say if

[40:53] there was one building to protect this would be it

[40:58] but it's never going to be protected by the the

[41:01] owner

[41:03] we would have to step in and do something

[41:07] so before I finish I would like to move a

[41:10] motion Mister Merrick

[41:13] that we deny the demolition permit

[41:16] but that being said

[41:19] the gentleman made

[41:20] the same ... recommendations that I would make if we

[41:25] as a council believe that the residents of Richmond hill

[41:29] want to preserve this property forever I think number one

[41:36] it should remain a schoolhouse

[41:40] for other

[41:41] any use it as a school house as opposed to

[41:44] what we did on young street with the old post

[41:47] office we we bought it we restarted its magnificent it's

[41:52] a real estate office kinda loses its contacts

[41:56] so I would like to see the Jefferson school house

[41:59] be purchased ideally the ultimate is be purchased if it's

[42:04] the will of the people of Richmond hill

[42:06] that the city purchased the property enter into agreement with

[42:10] the owner restore at and turn it back into a

[42:15] school house now not mainstream school obviously it's just one

[42:19] little white house but let's say

[42:23] for example we turned into a school house for an

[42:26] autistic program for autistic kids

[42:29] and forever have it there so everybody can enjoy

[42:34] so Mr Maher I would move that we deny the

[42:37] demolition permit for the time being and that we referred

[42:42] this back to staff to enter into negotiations with the

[42:47] owner to purchase the property restore the property and forever

[42:53] leave it as a school house

[42:56] that's my motion Mr

[42:59] a second please

[43:02] that's a chance

[43:04] this one will get a chance to chat

[43:09] this is

[43:11] with the message

[43:12] June 2 yes and this is on the screen

[43:17] yes course but

[43:20] thank you Mr mayor ... all right what do you

[43:23] want to wish to see it on the screen before

[43:25] you sure I'll wait okay just so we understand

[43:30] this

[43:34] yes

[43:38] it's okay just don't

[43:41] thank you

[43:44] the second ... will speak when it's on the board

[43:47] and then

[44:42] this is

[44:51] this is a

[44:57] status is to

[45:01] thank

[45:25] 6 to stop

[45:30] yes

[45:36] okay and then the comments not lifted the speakers catch

[45:39] a chance to second thank you

[45:43] Mister chair

[45:44] and I appreciate him over for this full

[45:48] this is an effort to preserve a former Jefferson school

[45:52] house now ... before makes for a common I'd thought

[45:56] to move also mentioned some up referring to staff so

[46:00] that they'll be opportune to come back ... but perhaps

[46:04] would that be in the view of the ball forward

[46:07] to capture in

[46:09] C.

[46:12] okay please

[46:14] it would remove it because I hear the word of

[46:16] referral your for saying to staff to come back I

[46:20] just like to see the wording there but I certainly

[46:23] support the

[46:25] principal and the spirit office

[46:28] with with a move like a resolute okay

[46:32] okay

[46:33] so now I want to say number one I fully

[46:37] concur with ... I agree a hundred percent of the

[46:41] first dedicate ... if I can call you GM Mr

[46:45] president simply

[46:48] I totally agree if you reverse gone it's gone

[46:52] I mean when I first moved into Richmond hill I

[46:54] remember used to be called Falwell and stopped you fall

[47:00] knocked out power some of you may remember white collar

[47:03] may not be the best thing you want to look

[47:05] into in the morning

[47:08] but I don't know why I still miss it because

[47:10] it's gone it's gone it with dust weedy wreaths press

[47:14] sense part of Richmond hill history in fact it might

[47:18] be called all of us at that time right optional

[47:22] I'm food for support in preserving in particular in this

[47:25] case S. already a mention by him over ... so

[47:29] this opportunity I believe the second dedicate our doctor Blake

[47:34] talking about yes after these contracts all this perhaps in

[47:39] the future with as high rise with his tonsils whether

[47:41] it may be and I think that actor Scott ...

[47:46] educational of thing full of

[47:50] the younger generation of young at heart about where we

[47:54] come from and so that we know the future and

[47:56] I can send example I always like that

[48:00] politiker setting

[48:02] Gibson house on young street and populate with what a

[48:07] user now call North York civic centre and they might

[48:11] have

[48:13] concourse point of order

[48:15] right but my point is

[48:18] the use of a kitchen housed they maintain that given

[48:21] house and opened it as say some kind of educational

[48:25] display purposes so for that purpose I'm support that this

[48:29] could be turned into as a public or see it

[48:32] be something up booting it back to of all original

[48:37] purpose and dad of opportunity come back to console we

[48:40] can deliberate gait so I ... I support that a

[48:44] particularly looking at page fifty one of your report this

[48:48] is precisely the spirit all three did not in this

[48:51] decision of the heritage committee so I'm happy to support

[48:54] it and thank you all for the motion ... to

[48:57] ... by the way which are local councillor you should

[49:00] add a name to

[49:02] thank you

[49:04] so much

[49:06] good day this so

[49:10] I have a party it'll put into school

[49:14] I have a I have a group that was put

[49:16] into a school

[49:18] we visited the site

[49:20] we have met with a number of stakeholders

[49:25] clearing the owner

[49:27] I would say you further what we wanna do is

[49:28] you want to try to preserve this to me to

[49:30] school yup me the H. fax system something else for

[49:32] those that want to give an example of that this

[49:34] is possible

[49:36] because the situation in this type of rendering it obsolete

[49:40] possible

[49:41] this motion would not do that I don't think that

[49:44] we should when we have people in our community hi

[49:46] hi love the romanticism of

[49:49] but expect the school boarder private school to go in

[49:51] there is going to cost a lot of money

[49:53] and I would like to have money for water and

[49:55] sewer so people don't have the sewer back up into

[49:57] their homes are like people have garbage pickup and everything

[50:00] elsewhere in the state already here in Richmond hill we

[50:02] have budget constraints when we have a party that is

[50:05] willing to protect the school the heritage the look and

[50:10] make it work without spending two to four million dollars

[50:13] of taxpayers money I guess a two that we have

[50:16] a housing affordability we have a gridlock we have high

[50:19] taxation here I think that the resources I love I

[50:23] absolutely want to take a schoolhouse

[50:26] I think that this is a very important I think

[50:27] ... the majority of council will likely agree with us

[50:30] I think when you listen to the advice of the

[50:33] stake holders including the

[50:35] Historical Society of saying what their objectives are one two

[50:38] three

[50:40] this one to 3 is nice

[50:43] but we cannot keep purchasing and go beyond our scope

[50:46] we have to look at priorities as a basic level

[50:48] government we can't just keep spending and doing things based

[50:52] upon a wish not a need we have dozens if

[50:56] not hundreds of families today who are in harm's way

[50:59] because they are under stress because they have sewage in

[51:02] their basements

[51:04] that to me health and safety takes precedence over a

[51:08] wish of owning a building that we can't operate

[51:13] spent two billion dollars the candid post building for someone

[51:16] else to do is nice but I don't believe it's

[51:19] value to what our job is here although I very

[51:22] much would like agree with that I think that the

[51:24] cost of doing this when we have other options that

[51:28] we know when we have people willing to do a

[51:30] school and for those that ... I have engagements with

[51:33] some people in the audience and outside to move that

[51:36] school will likely crumble it to move it off site

[51:40] to move it on young street to move those wires

[51:42] about three hundred thousand dollars so it's for us to

[51:44] say we want to convert this to go back to

[51:47] give staff the responsibility to go in and negotiate to

[51:50] purchase a site to be used for something that's not

[51:54] going to add value when we have other options that

[51:57] we can say let's work with stakeholders to preserve our

[52:01] history to keep the architecture to embrace it where it's

[52:05] going to be a showcase even the picture that was

[52:07] shown by the ... by one of the delegates shows

[52:11] that was people go by it gets lost well we

[52:14] can actually enhance it and give you guys a visual

[52:17] you guys haven't seen that this is possible

[52:21] maybe

[52:23] this motion will kill that so I think it's great

[52:26] that we all say we want to cater to a

[52:27] select few that one romanticism I'd rather focus on great

[52:30] governance do what's right for the history of the site

[52:34] ... and go from there but also by the will

[52:36] of counsel and we'll go from there but I think

[52:38] this would be a mistake so I would say to

[52:40] that I would like to add an amendment if I

[52:42] can if maybe if you'd like to move it move

[52:44] as a friendly amendment

[52:46] as opposed to give the direction to stuff to say

[52:49] that go and ... as it says here the feasibility

[52:53] of purchasing the Jefferson school house which would absolutely destroy

[52:57] any possibility of any private investment whatsoever going into this

[53:02] I would say I would like to say go back

[53:04] to stuff and engage as we already have because that

[53:08] was the motion last council meeting when we engage with

[53:11] staff on options for the site we had a working

[53:16] community this motion would not do that so I'd like

[53:19] to ask mover says that being gauge back with staff

[53:21] to look at all options as for the delegation of

[53:26] historical societies three options as their preferred not exclusively saying

[53:31] that the city is going to purchase this building

[53:35] so this doesn't happen

[53:40] yeah

[53:41] we were filming an invigilator wonderful individual touches I'm asking

[53:45] what you're doing last month ...

[53:48] okay yes we can add something

[53:52] thank you Mister Merrett so just just to be clear

[53:54] ... with councillor Munch is asking is that we don't

[53:58] restrict it to just the purchase of the property that

[54:01] we look at other options

[54:04] the I'm happy to I'm happy to make the amendments

[54:08] so that you know go along to get along

[54:12] please I want everybody understand that

[54:14] we have been trying for years to work with this

[54:18] property owner that design came from him

[54:23] ... does that other iterations of how we can incorporate

[54:28] the school house into a bigger project these are all

[54:31] wonderful options my fear is this

[54:34] that if we do nothing if we don't act on

[54:37] one of the options and I'm happy to make the

[54:40] amendment ... that house is going to crumble and when

[54:44] it hits the ground in a pile of rubble it's

[54:46] over we have to do something so I don't want

[54:50] to just push this off into the future with with

[54:54] no action so I'm happy to add Mr Clark

[54:57] that

[54:59] the manager of real estate

[55:02] and staff be directed

[55:06] to contact the owners of it as well as at

[55:09] the end as well as to ... investigate options to

[55:15] build I don't even know how you would word it

[55:18] I mean

[55:19] to preserve

[55:20] options to develop the set that's always available for the

[55:23] owner and for anybody to go in and buy it

[55:27] another option is to preserve the schoolhouse

[55:31] all right

[55:33] Chad I just want to say yes or no answer

[55:36] at this point yes indisputable preserving the actor for the

[55:40] schoolhouse

[55:43] Tania 25 seconds

[55:48] okay

[55:51] I still have

[55:54] 4 speakers

[55:56] all wrapped up with change the ref

[56:31] okay there is

[56:40] okay

[56:44] okay this comes with emotion all right cancer west

[56:51] okay so were this differently minutes or on the main

[56:53] motion right

[56:55] we're not talking about the amendment no

[56:59] okay thank you okay so I I there are no

[57:02] I mean I have agreed with a number of things

[57:03] have been said I've disagreed with the details of some

[57:06] of the things have been said but I think I

[57:08] the first thing that I think we're also saying is

[57:11] that we do need to protect this property it is

[57:14] abundantly clear to me that ... any great city that

[57:17] you can think of in the world has one of

[57:19] the reasons it's great is because it has all these

[57:21] unique ... interesting and probably historic prop property is that

[57:25] it is ... preserved and if I mean I'm all

[57:28] go down the list I'm sure you have a list

[57:31] ... you know I've also been to seminars that you

[57:33] know there's three or four things that you do when

[57:35] you create a great city and one of them is

[57:37] preserve your your uniqueness and your historic building so I

[57:39] think that's clear and I think we're all singing from

[57:41] the same song sheet on that which is great ...

[57:46] the the the whole idea of in my mind from

[57:49] anything I've learned that is the only way that we're

[57:52] really going to be able to save heritage buildings realistically

[57:55] is to have them be able to be repurposed and

[57:58] be reincorporated into something else and I think that is

[58:01] by far with a question in my mind the number

[58:03] one way to go and Mr Blakey ... you did

[58:06] mention that cover notes that stop good example in Richmond

[58:10] hill but if you go down to Toronto there's many

[58:12] examples where an old building comes something new and it

[58:15] becomes a part of something new as well and I

[58:17] think that's absolutely the formula that that's proven to be

[58:21] a winner

[58:22] so

[58:24] I think that the the problem I have two problems

[58:26] with this motion and it's only on see that I

[58:29] have the problem I don't think that ... we can't

[58:33] afford is a municipality to be buying any ... carriage

[58:37] building that needs to be bought and nor do I

[58:39] think we should it's not a good value for the

[58:41] taxpayer because

[58:43] in a situation like this ... that the old building

[58:47] will become a profitable venture for something new it's it's

[58:52] you know and the onus is on the owners unfortunately

[58:54] to them in the body with a historic building on

[58:56] it the onus is on that the ... owner to

[58:59] deal with the property the way it is and if

[59:01] there was a ravine in the middle of the property

[59:03] they would have restrictions on what you could build in

[59:05] the routine if there's a historic building there's a good

[59:07] possibility that there will be restrictions on what you can

[59:10] do because they start building the builders and developers are

[59:13] creative people and they can come up with creative designs

[59:16] I that's one example that comes to mind showed I've

[59:19] seen that actually and I think it shows that it

[59:21] is possible if we restrict this also to being a

[59:25] school house that goes against what I just said because

[59:29] you are freezing not only the building in time but

[59:32] you're also for using the use and that building they

[59:36] don't have one room schoolhouses anymore I mean that that

[59:39] that ... the model of education is long since gone

[59:43] and ... so allowing that school has to be calm

[59:48] whatever the market wants it to be calm is really

[59:51] important and if if we restrict what it can be

[59:55] we're really defeating the purpose of all of the stuff

[59:57] and frankly I believe were probably destined to fail in

[1:00:00] the situation ... hi I would be able to support

[1:00:05] see if we took out the part about looking at

[1:00:08] the feasibility of purchasing this the school has because I

[1:00:10] just don't think that's the answer ... I think the

[1:00:13] answer is in my mind is fairly simple we deny

[1:00:17] the permit application the demolition permit application which is in

[1:00:20] B. and ... we say to the owner and it

[1:00:24] will continue probably I would assume to say to the

[1:00:27] owner that we'll do everything we can to help that

[1:00:30] building be incorporated into some other conceptual design and you

[1:00:34] know will it be easy no but it will it

[1:00:36] could happen I've seen this happen in my world with

[1:00:39] thirty five right street we had ... demolition application that

[1:00:43] we work with the owner now we have this design

[1:00:45] we're gonna incorporate the ... the end dean one of

[1:00:49] the Indian family homes into the lobby of this new

[1:00:53] development that's going to happen and it actually looks really

[1:00:55] great I I'm quite pleased with that design so ...

[1:00:59] I think that the the way to go about this

[1:01:01] is actually very simple ... I think a and B.

[1:01:04] are completely valid and I think that's what we should

[1:01:07] do I think he would be fine if it if

[1:01:10] it didn't include the bother bothering to go down the

[1:01:14] rabbit hole of ... the feasibility of purchasing it ...

[1:01:18] but I would say though that ... you know this

[1:01:22] is possible and it's been shown to be possible in

[1:01:25] many many situations and I think

[1:01:29] regard if we if we have approved a and B.

[1:01:31] and not see I would absolutely go to our staff

[1:01:35] first thing after this meeting and say you know what

[1:01:38] go out there have a meeting with the guy if

[1:01:40] you haven't already and I'm sure we have and make

[1:01:42] sure we do everything in our power to to get

[1:01:45] this done because working together collaboratively is definitely the way

[1:01:49] to go here and it is possible so those are

[1:01:52] my comments ... when this comes time ... Mr mayor

[1:01:56] I'd like a N. B. C. two B. twelve A.

[1:01:59] M. B. could be one I guess but a and

[1:02:00] B. maybe voted out together let's see separately

[1:02:06] all right close the service

[1:02:09] thank you Mr mayor thank you too ... the delegates

[1:02:12] in order to staff who's worked tirelessly on this that's

[1:02:16] true heritage Richmond hill and answered planning ... I agreed

[1:02:22] to it to a certain degree with my seat mate

[1:02:25] and fellow HRH ... at council a committee member state

[1:02:30] councillor David west ...

[1:02:32] a a and B. of this motion without question the

[1:02:36] permit the demolition permit must be denied and we are

[1:02:39] in it we are in the middle of a ticking

[1:02:41] clock and that's denial of demo permit must come to

[1:02:45] day so there's no question about that ... what I

[1:02:48] do find curious is that this this this motion is

[1:02:52] very similar to the one that was supposed to say

[1:02:55] council a few weeks ago by myself and if I

[1:02:58] want I want to I want to draw people's attention

[1:03:01] to out of the river the revised it M. agenda

[1:03:05] on page six fiftieths one seventy five on page fifty

[1:03:08] one of one seventy five when you look at the

[1:03:11] main motion as amended moved by the vice chair of

[1:03:15] HRH March Andre recommendation one that heritage which were your

[1:03:19] committee recommends to counsel that the ... staff report be

[1:03:24] received that the demolition be denied that the city creek

[1:03:29] place it publishes in the local newspaper and then what

[1:03:32] was added day was that the manager of realistic be

[1:03:34] directed to contact the landowner to begin discussions to investigate

[1:03:38] the feasibility of purchasing the for much of the schoolhouse

[1:03:42] ... and then there was an E. so when this

[1:03:45] came to council a few weeks ago am I I

[1:03:50] also I made a motion that day D. should be

[1:03:53] changed because should be amended because it was certain restrictions

[1:03:56] that we face as a public entity ...

[1:04:01] stick to the office today not talk about last counts

[1:04:04] me I'm speaking to the motion

[1:04:07] okay you are here reciting what okay so when you

[1:04:12] go to

[1:04:13] fine I'll I will I will discuss that no further

[1:04:16] it is in our agenda

[1:04:18] M.

[1:04:20] so through you Mister mayor I need to go to

[1:04:22] a commissioner of planning commission of corn through the discussions

[1:04:26] that I have had with you regarding this matter if

[1:04:30] you look at sea there there were you explain to

[1:04:35] me that there were specific policy this policy mechanisms that

[1:04:39] we have to follow in order to in order to

[1:04:42] purchase ... this asset as to you Mister may I'd

[1:04:46] like commission according to please explain that again to us

[1:04:50] because I believe it's germane

[1:04:55] three Mister mayor ... the typical policy ... process to

[1:05:00] purchase a heritage property would be that we would initiate

[1:05:03] the discussions prior to an application for the demolition however

[1:05:08] I do understand the intent of council and ... I

[1:05:11] think up by having option for paragraph C. in the

[1:05:14] resolution reinforces council's intent to the owner and staff understand

[1:05:21] ... what we can look at and we will be

[1:05:23] presenting options with no ... premonition here as to what

[1:05:28] the outcome may be ... but certainly purchasing is still

[1:05:31] an option whether or not it's a probability remains to

[1:05:34] be seen I will certainly look into planning solution if

[1:05:37] at all viable

[1:05:39] thank you commissioner so just just to confirm to you

[1:05:42] Mr mayor you're saying that the wording of C. in

[1:05:46] your opinion with regards to policy M. is is ...

[1:05:52] is applicables

[1:05:54] 3 miss Meredith does not cause a sergeant

[1:05:57] thank you and I needed to I needed to to

[1:05:59] ... to make sure about that so I absolutely support

[1:06:03] a and B. I do have a problem with C.

[1:06:06] I. I feel that as as the council was set

[1:06:11] that you buy

[1:06:14] by microscope that the use of this back into another

[1:06:20] school house well that would be excellent I believe as

[1:06:23] well all kinds of of ... initiative should be looked

[1:06:28] at once this is purchased and it comes to us

[1:06:32] how can we repurpose this how can this be repurposed

[1:06:35] by anybody who wishes to come in and and get

[1:06:38] the house in in the little house so I can't

[1:06:42] support C. as is written I would respectfully suggest to

[1:06:46] the mover of the motion and the second act that

[1:06:49] perhaps some further discussion be had about that those few

[1:06:52] words for the purpose on converting the building back into

[1:06:56] a school house be amended to be far more brought

[1:07:01] because thank you to be formal board because as it

[1:07:05] stands right now I believe we are we are we

[1:07:08] are microscope in this and we should not be doing

[1:07:10] this as counsel away said it could actually failed because

[1:07:14] of that thank you

[1:07:17] because the bears

[1:07:21] thank you Mr mayor

[1:07:24] for those who don't know I I sat for a

[1:07:26] number of my first couple terms on heritage Richmond hill

[1:07:30] ... and and this is not the first time in

[1:07:32] this building has has come up ... and if in

[1:07:35] fact many years ago with previous councils I suggested

[1:07:41] nothing is gonna happen

[1:07:43] unless the council buys it nothing will happen no one

[1:07:48] else has those deep pockets to just throw good money

[1:07:53] away to keep the building alive

[1:07:57] counter the Dabo said we're not buying it

[1:08:01] how we gonna live up to the scrutiny of the

[1:08:03] the taxpayers by spending that kind of money and I

[1:08:06] should for those you don't know the property is no

[1:08:09] running water the property has no sewer connection

[1:08:14] the property doesn't even have appropriate zoning for the current

[1:08:17] uses for for years

[1:08:21] no foundation for you as a brick building like that

[1:08:24] would not have had the day would have built on

[1:08:26] the the soil for years we've worked with previous owners

[1:08:30] and current owners to look the other way on zoning

[1:08:33] matters to allow what ever used could possibly come into

[1:08:38] the building to keep the building alive because we all

[1:08:41] know

[1:08:42] an empty building

[1:08:44] deteriorate quicker but the building is being used so for

[1:08:48] years and years and years multiple councils have tried with

[1:08:52] previous owners and current owners to try to get something

[1:08:57] at there has been attempts by previous and current owners

[1:09:02] to put applications in

[1:09:05] but to no avail because my opinion

[1:09:11] when they finally start looking at the financials of the

[1:09:13] whole thing

[1:09:16] the feasibility dies again

[1:09:19] because I've been more than willing over the years two

[1:09:23] okay fine we're gonna lose most of the building but

[1:09:27] let's rebuild the facade on the new building

[1:09:30] let's move the building on the property and none of

[1:09:34] those have come to fruition

[1:09:39] and and I hate to say this because I I'm

[1:09:43] I'm fearful to offend the group that is here

[1:09:46] but there's limited public interest

[1:09:49] this is being in the papers over the years a

[1:09:53] number of times ... I received one phone call

[1:09:57] from a resident in my ward and we spoke of

[1:10:01] it we spoke of the issues and we left with

[1:10:03] the yeah what do we do

[1:10:06] we don't at this point seem to have a willing

[1:10:08] owner to say look at will spend whatever we got

[1:10:10] to spend we get it there hasn't been a a

[1:10:14] a a a go fund me or crowd sourcing of

[1:10:17] the residents saying well let's see if we can't make

[1:10:20] up the difference so the owner can actually preserve it

[1:10:24] within a project

[1:10:27] well

[1:10:28] I have not received a mandate from my residence to

[1:10:31] spend taxpayers money

[1:10:34] on cleaning up every old historic building

[1:10:38] encounters in the past have

[1:10:42] and I look at some of those buildings now and

[1:10:44] the other great buildings but they're not living up to

[1:10:46] their potential and we're struggling now is a council what

[1:10:49] do we do with them how do we incorporate them

[1:10:52] into future use how do we keep the holding economical

[1:10:56] so I'm glad that it's the C. has been taken

[1:10:59] out or not taking up what has been separated I

[1:11:03] cannot support see in any way shape or form if

[1:11:07] there is a ... a private group that wants to

[1:11:10] buy the property and restore the whole thing of course

[1:11:13] the municipality will bend over backwards to facilitate that

[1:11:19] but for us to put our money to it I

[1:11:22] I can't support that at all thank you Mr mayor

[1:11:26] thank you custody of

[1:11:28] he was the mayor and

[1:11:30] I'm in full support of ... on preserving the Jefferson

[1:11:33] school house so a and B. I don't think anybody

[1:11:36] has any problem here's what I'm hearing is it's pretty

[1:11:38] obvious that we're on the same page we all want

[1:11:41] to be sort of the ... Jefferson schoolhouse in terms

[1:11:43] of ... see ... I'm a bit confused about the

[1:11:48] motion because we said okay we explore tentative options and

[1:11:52] also at the same time we are asking

[1:11:56] the feasibility of purchasing it and converting it back to

[1:11:59] a schoolhouse so is either like we talking about the

[1:12:03] same thing over you with conflict in each other ...

[1:12:06] what I'm suggesting to you move a motion is you

[1:12:09] know maybe we should

[1:12:11] first explore the alternative options to preserve the Jefferson school

[1:12:15] house maybe you can act including the feasibility of pursing

[1:12:19] the purchasing the former ... schoolhouse or converting it back

[1:12:24] into the schoolhouse but but now I'll see is is

[1:12:28] is a bit I don't know ... about the residents

[1:12:31] here but I'm a bit confused because with every by

[1:12:34] it but we also look at different options so I

[1:12:37] think we should just look for options if you like

[1:12:39] it you can including you know purchasing purchasing the ...

[1:12:43] the schoolhouse and converting it back into school house so

[1:12:47] is my suggestions the mover marched on to the motion

[1:12:50] although it will make ... you know everybody covered because

[1:12:53] I I want it that the United need counseling as

[1:12:56] well

[1:12:57] thank you estimate as Mayacamas and also ... sorry I

[1:13:02] also because ... I don't know because we live A.

[1:13:05] B. C. here but when I look when when when

[1:13:08] I look at the ... the stock recommendations we also

[1:13:10] have a B. C. D. U. so we missing a

[1:13:13] which is to receive the staff report and E. which

[1:13:16] is the ... the supplemental information ... ... provided by

[1:13:21] toxic study Kelly to be received so I don't know

[1:13:24] if we need to add those in there to make

[1:13:27] the motion you know more complete so that's just my

[1:13:30] comments thank you Mr mayor yeah

[1:13:33] ... I have some comments to denote who turned to

[1:13:36] the clerk it says be received is that required we're

[1:13:40] dealing with it we've got a motion on so desperate

[1:13:43] for

[1:13:44] all right ... my comments are ... simply I I

[1:13:48] I

[1:13:49] I'm in favor of C. the way it is ...

[1:13:51] because I read into it that we contact the landowner

[1:13:54] about the feasibility of purchasing as well as exploring the

[1:13:59] alternative options to preserve the Jeff the Jefferson school house

[1:14:04] and when we do go back to ... thirteen point

[1:14:08] four which is the one that we're dealing with now

[1:14:10] our motion the reason we're here today was the motion

[1:14:13] said that we deferred it ... to permit consultations on

[1:14:18] the future of the Jefferson school so I think we've

[1:14:20] captured it all here and I have no problem in

[1:14:25] in the supporting this motion

[1:14:28] to observe probably

[1:14:33] go ahead

[1:14:35] thank you Mr mayor so

[1:14:37] we've we've heard a lot of comments and

[1:14:43] end up what I wanted to say Mr America is

[1:14:46] that

[1:14:48] if we simply deny the demolition app application and and

[1:14:54] don't put a CD in their

[1:14:57] everything stays status quo and the status quo sadly is

[1:15:02] that that building continues to deteriorate

[1:15:05] and when it falls

[1:15:08] when it falls

[1:15:10] the hardship that the current owner is going through

[1:15:14] will not allow him

[1:15:18] to restore that building

[1:15:21] then more difficult decisions will have to be made again

[1:15:26] who's going to pay for the restoration of that building

[1:15:29] what will the restoration look like will it be the

[1:15:32] old Jefferson schools will we recognize it as the old

[1:15:35] jobs schools

[1:15:37] and so we have to be very careful how we

[1:15:40] cast our votes today because my fear is and my

[1:15:45] prediction is

[1:15:47] this like many other heritage properties in Richmond hill and

[1:15:51] we have a few that are in the radar right

[1:15:55] now that are unsafe

[1:15:59] M. one they're unsafe we now this council will be

[1:16:02] forced with the decision between safety to the community and

[1:16:07] preserving heritage

[1:16:09] and the liability thank you councilman and the liability that

[1:16:12] goes along with it and sadly I believe it's my

[1:16:16] opinion that if workforce between the choice of the heritage

[1:16:21] versus the safety safety will win

[1:16:25] and the staff in the building department may recommend demolition

[1:16:30] of the property for public safety and now we enter

[1:16:34] into very very complicated legal process

[1:16:38] and once we go down that rabbit hole we're not

[1:16:41] coming back from the

[1:16:43] so

[1:16:44] I want to be clear we need to do something

[1:16:47] other than just deny and that's why I did see

[1:16:52] I don't know if the residents of Richmond hill are

[1:16:55] going to back us other than the forty one signature

[1:16:59] petition that you presented to us thirty five of which

[1:17:03] lived in Richmond hello five which did not thirty six

[1:17:06] I think it is ... but other than that we

[1:17:10] need the support of the community if we don't have

[1:17:13] the support of the community then this council may decide

[1:17:16] not to purchase

[1:17:18] the other options to explore alternatives really that's not the

[1:17:22] mandate of the council or the city those options have

[1:17:26] we spoken available counselor munches worked with this landowner I've

[1:17:31] worked with this landowner I see members in the audience

[1:17:35] who have considered buying this property I won't identify them

[1:17:38] to point them out but they wanted to buy this

[1:17:40] property you do something like councilman showed everybody but it

[1:17:45] didn't work so please let's support this and try to

[1:17:49] do something to preserve this because if we don't if

[1:17:53] we just deny the application and forget about it

[1:17:57] then sadly I think we're going to see a pile

[1:18:00] of rubble there in short order those are my comments

[1:18:03] Mr mayor thank you okay that is before us we

[1:18:07] are going to deal with

[1:18:10] a second round of the second round

[1:18:15] I was wrapped up so it's a second

[1:18:19] certainly go ahead thank you very much you should be

[1:18:22] upset thank you Mr mayor and ... thank you ...

[1:18:26] ... ...

[1:18:28] everyone for the input and I listened carefully to ...

[1:18:32] ... everyone my called saying and I think that I

[1:18:37] find it a bit surprising ... somebody use the board

[1:18:40] shot ...

[1:18:42] confuse all I'm not confused at all all the only

[1:18:46] thing that I can see what the reason being is

[1:18:50] that please okay okay your comment should be about okay

[1:18:54] the motion right the motion before us look yeah that's

[1:18:58] what I'm doing Mister mayor less by I'm calling you

[1:19:02] from my peers but one thing in common is a

[1:19:05] common thing here everyone helping speaking want to preserve it

[1:19:09] the V. D. divergence size views all up what to

[1:19:14] do with it our necks but what we talk about

[1:19:16] we can see is that we are asking staff that's

[1:19:20] why stress previously report back to council we are not

[1:19:24] saying today go out and purchase it and pay acts

[1:19:28] media dollars no look at all options offering stock to

[1:19:32] come back and they'll report to council then the decision

[1:19:36] is made so to suggest knowledge of whether we after

[1:19:40] stepping into only one direction ... I have to be

[1:19:44] ... respectfully disagree about it does see we pass that

[1:19:49] give the mandate to stop to look at all options

[1:19:52] now the only restoration ... I half is what it

[1:19:55] in fact I would only for the use of schoolhouse

[1:19:58] but if the stock will come back I like this

[1:20:01] sometimes issues are going to see so I'm stealing some

[1:20:03] pop off A. B. C. and I do echo the

[1:20:07] same words as the movers saying refer you do nothing

[1:20:10] just denying it and I've seen in the past that's

[1:20:14] something I'm afraid might happen that that may be too

[1:20:18] late to save it thank you recently

[1:20:23] okay let's let's move on to the auto sector

[1:20:27] okay we are talking about this motion

[1:20:30] not not

[1:20:32] I think of this motion

[1:20:35] what you not each other okay

[1:20:38] coach

[1:20:40] thank you Mr mayor our question to the commissioner of

[1:20:43] planning

[1:20:47] we're not private planners

[1:20:51] do we have the ability under the municipal act or

[1:20:55] the planning act or any act to

[1:20:58] preemptively create zoning for a property without an application from

[1:21:04] the owner ... do we have the ability to to

[1:21:08] market such property to the private sector without the owners

[1:21:13] ... ability I'm just wondering what is it that we

[1:21:17] can do as as admits a power need to explore

[1:21:20] options what do you interpret that as meaning

[1:21:26] 3 Mister Maher

[1:21:27] are you Mister bear

[1:21:30] I interpret this is looking at all options to preserve

[1:21:33] the building without use restrictions I don't I do not

[1:21:37] see those words here at this time and ... certainly

[1:21:42] to answer the broader question of council's authority ... this

[1:21:45] Lister can correct me a council can rezone a property

[1:21:49] at any time however that's certainly not the general practice

[1:21:53] we we passed comprehensive bylaws or area specific bylaws but

[1:21:57] generally not site specific bylaws without a development application for

[1:22:02] that individual property by the owner

[1:22:05] the three Mister Merrett by denying this it maintains the

[1:22:09] protection that it has under the Ontario heritage act

[1:22:17] I'd like a bit more ... dialogue on the exploring

[1:22:22] alternative options

[1:22:26] are we a are we able as a municipality to

[1:22:29] waive all fees for applications are we able to waive

[1:22:34] development charges so that something could be built here that

[1:22:37] can't thus far be financially built here

[1:22:41] trying to I'm just trying to for the for the

[1:22:43] betterment of residents understand what we can or can't do

[1:22:46] it we don't have a willing owner that hasn't put

[1:22:49] it a complete application and yet and previous owners haven't

[1:22:52] put in complete applications yet to bring it to the

[1:22:55] point of counsel being able to approve

[1:22:58] some use

[1:23:01] three of us to actually we do have an active

[1:23:04] development applications on file ... however the owner has chosen

[1:23:08] not to pursue the finalization of those applications they've been

[1:23:12] in effect for well probably three or four years now

[1:23:16] but they have been suspended at the owner's request the

[1:23:19] past year or so ... if the option and further

[1:23:22] discussions with the owner become but does become issues for

[1:23:27] discussion points of discussion we can certainly report that out

[1:23:31] and explore the feasibility if that is what it takes

[1:23:34] to preserve the building but certainly that will be a

[1:23:36] decision of council has soup some date in the future

[1:23:39] when we report

[1:23:41] so three Mister Maher so were you saying yes we

[1:23:44] can waive development charges we can waive application fees we

[1:23:48] can

[1:23:49] fast track it so to save the building

[1:23:54] for clarity Mr Maher three Mister mayor we will explore

[1:23:58] any and all options with the owner Mister mayor off

[1:24:03] to directed to the CEO that if the commissioners not

[1:24:05] able or not willing to answer the question

[1:24:08] city manager are we able to waive development charges permit

[1:24:14] fees and fast track an application in the spirit of

[1:24:19] saving the building

[1:24:22] three Mister where there's ... things in there that I'm

[1:24:25] not entirely sure if we have to do some research

[1:24:27] in terms of making sure it's not going to sing

[1:24:29] a specific ... ... developments monetarily however fast tracking is

[1:24:35] certainly on the table we can certainly look at ...

[1:24:38] how we can affect those changes ... and then put

[1:24:44] a package together for this individual if that's if that's

[1:24:47] the desire of counsel I I again I specifically can't

[1:24:51] say might have to defer that to others a report

[1:24:54] back on on the financial incentives we can provide is

[1:24:57] generally not allowed but ... ... there certain process things

[1:25:02] and timing things we can certainly do to ... ...

[1:25:05] ... to facilitate a development that incorporates the building

[1:25:11] would you be more comfortable going on camera to have

[1:25:13] that discussion

[1:25:15] because I I I've been here for fourteen years I've

[1:25:18] received a number of pieces of advice from current staff

[1:25:22] from previous staff when it comes to

[1:25:26] what you said bonus

[1:25:28] but it now sounds like we're all not knowing or

[1:25:31] not wanting to say anything

[1:25:33] three American ... it's not a question of not willing

[1:25:36] to say it I I simply don't know ... whether

[1:25:40] that financial tense can be provided for for up ...

[1:25:45] this use I know we can provide ... financial centers

[1:25:49] through a convenient community improvement plan such as deferral DC

[1:25:53] deferrals and application leaders and so on so it's in

[1:25:56] the context of it another process and I'm not exactly

[1:25:59] sure where this would fit I'm sure if that's the

[1:26:03] desire of cancel we could try to figure something out

[1:26:05] ... locals lined

[1:26:08] thank you Mr mayor

[1:26:11] all right the motion

[1:26:14] the clerk question too Hey it's me

[1:26:18] and then C. 7

[1:26:20] according

[1:26:22] Cordova yes Sir Wes

[1:26:28] this was three Mister mayor voting on because a and

[1:26:37] B. of the main motion councilor Wes cancer chan

[1:26:43] cancer cell events

[1:26:45] yes

[1:26:46] reach a local councillor Perrelli yes cancer Leo

[1:26:51] cancer burrows yes reach a local culture to Paula yes

[1:26:56] Kilcher munches

[1:26:58] barrow yeah

[1:27:00] because a and B. of the motion carried unanimously

[1:27:05] voting on clause see of the motion council west cancer

[1:27:09] much

[1:27:11] no

[1:27:12] Qalqilia yes culture celebrates

[1:27:18] yes with reservations to the text borough

[1:27:22] yeah

[1:27:23] reach a local culture to Paula yes reach a local

[1:27:27] culture pearly yes Kilcher Verreaux's

[1:27:31] cancer chan yes

[1:27:35] Corsi of the motion carries only in the entire motion

[1:27:38] is carried

[1:27:41] thank you

[1:27:50] the

[1:27:53] yeah is

[1:27:58] hi

[1:28:00] 2 delegations are

[1:28:05] Jenny wants to delegate

[1:28:08] I'm sorry

[1:28:11] she was on the

[1:28:14] this is the

[1:28:21] okay there is we have a

[1:28:26] please

[1:28:27]

[1:28:31] for the plant 130

[1:28:36] is the service call

[1:28:44] mayors councillors and fellow residents my name is Carrie Tice

[1:28:48] I am an engineer and I have been a resident

[1:28:50] of Richmond hill for seventeen years I would like to

[1:28:53] thank you for the opportunity to speak today about the

[1:28:56] very urgent issue of climate change

[1:28:59] I have read the staff report on Richmond hills climate

[1:29:02] change actions and want to commend the city of Richmond

[1:29:05] hill for all the great work they are doing and

[1:29:08] continue to do

[1:29:09] from this report it is evident that we all agree

[1:29:12] that climate change is an urgent issue so I'm not

[1:29:15] going to talk about the impacts we're seeing worldwide and

[1:29:19] even in our own backyards

[1:29:21] I stood in front of you eight months ago in

[1:29:24] support of the motion to declare a climate emergency brought

[1:29:28] forward by coun Sir David west at that time you

[1:29:31] may remember my neighbors and I had just formed the

[1:29:34] climate group neighbors for the planet hoping to generate more

[1:29:38] public awareness in our community about the climate crisis our

[1:29:42] goal is to empower individuals to reduce carbon emissions and

[1:29:46] their individual lives in their community and Canada wide

[1:29:51] as you are aware we are not the only climate

[1:29:53] group in our community there is also the blue dot

[1:29:57] drawdown targeting climate change and our news group extinction rebellion

[1:30:03] we work closely together with different approaches to tackle this

[1:30:06] issue different approaches but we all are all needed to

[1:30:10] reach everyone

[1:30:12] I would like to briefly summarize what has transpired since

[1:30:16] we were here eight months ago

[1:30:18] in July last year we held the first climate rally

[1:30:21] in Richmond hill

[1:30:23] where 50 people attended

[1:30:26] two months later in September we held another climate rally

[1:30:30] this time two hundred and fifty people attended

[1:30:35] people wanted to join us they were concerned about the

[1:30:37] climate crisis and wanted to do something but they weren't

[1:30:40] sure what they could do

[1:30:43] at that point I realized that the climate strikes were

[1:30:45] not enough so in October we started holding bi monthly

[1:30:49] meetings

[1:30:51] we are currently working on three initiatives transportation changing eating

[1:30:55] habits and food waste as they are some of the

[1:30:58] biggest contributors to carbon emissions

[1:31:01] a lot of people with great knowledge and expertise are

[1:31:04] devoting their free time because they are worried about the

[1:31:07] future we're leaving the next generations

[1:31:10] students are also engaged my fifteen year old daughter has

[1:31:14] started a climate action committee at her school ten students

[1:31:18] came to her first meeting they want their voices heard

[1:31:21] and to take their power back and change their future

[1:31:25] I'm also hosting a community student climate action group some

[1:31:29] students had expressed interest in our meetings I thought they

[1:31:32] could benefit by coming together to collaborate and support each

[1:31:35] other students from five different schools will be attending our

[1:31:39] first students get together this weekend

[1:31:43] this will be student led and I'm simply providing a

[1:31:45] space for them to meet and of course some snacks

[1:31:49] I am impressed by the energy spirit and leadership in

[1:31:52] our community the residents of Richmond hill are concerned and

[1:31:56] stepping up to do what they can to act on

[1:31:59] climate but there is only so much they can do

[1:32:04] what I have learned these last eight months is that

[1:32:06] individual change is important

[1:32:09] community engagement is even more important as it will lead

[1:32:12] to bigger change but we will never get the reductions

[1:32:15] in carbon emissions that are needed without systematic change

[1:32:20] we need change from all levels of government so I

[1:32:23] am asking you our elected officials to see the climate

[1:32:27] crisis for what it is and add urgency to the

[1:32:30] great work you are already doing

[1:32:33] the United nation IPCC report says we need to decrease

[1:32:36] our emissions by forty five percent from the two thousand

[1:32:40] and five levels by twenty thirty and to get to

[1:32:44] net zero by twenty fifty

[1:32:47] I ask you are we doing enough and quickly enough

[1:32:50] to meet these targets thank you

[1:33:02] this feature

[1:33:06] welcome

[1:33:07] joining

[1:33:15] the first action on climate change that we need to

[1:33:17] take is to have an open and honest conversation about

[1:33:20] it I'm relieved that we the people of Richmond hill

[1:33:23] are in the process of doing this already so I

[1:33:26] welcome this opportunity to acknowledge the staff report that has

[1:33:28] been prepared for consideration today since the June eleventh council

[1:33:32] meeting when I spoke about why I felt a need

[1:33:35] to declare climate emergency I've been involved in several initiatives

[1:33:38] in the community in order to help move the conversation

[1:33:41] forward I helped organize the Richmond hill welcome to four

[1:33:44] model was city councilor to Richmond hill so that he

[1:33:47] could talk about his book called burning souls it's a

[1:33:51] story about climate change with fictional characters based on real

[1:33:54] science last October I prepared a series of community discussions

[1:33:59] that was presented over three evenings the sessions will complement

[1:34:02] one of one click to aligning climate three oh one

[1:34:04] and we're intended to have conversations with people of various

[1:34:08] levels of understanding in September I took part in the

[1:34:11] climate strike organized by Kerry and spoke about why I

[1:34:14] was inspired by Greta sunburst the teenager from Sweden who

[1:34:17] spoke at the United Nations at Davos and at the

[1:34:20] twenty nineteen international climate conference with so many attending the

[1:34:24] strike I was feeling hopeful that our community is ready

[1:34:27] to talk about solutions I do feel however that we

[1:34:30] need all levels of government to be actively involved to

[1:34:33] help us reach even more people the staff report that

[1:34:36] has been prepared for the counselors is to give background

[1:34:39] and a summary of climate change actions possible at the

[1:34:42] municipal level it takes into account the potential economic impact

[1:34:46] of climate change as future extreme weather conditions become more

[1:34:50] common I am pleased to say that I understand and

[1:34:52] appreciate the content in this report because I've been doing

[1:34:55] quite a bit of reading about climate change for the

[1:34:58] last few years I read books by scientists what psychologist

[1:35:01] by communists and I've attended conferences and our mental seminars

[1:35:04] and election debates ten years ago there was very little

[1:35:07] mention of understanding of the climate crisis and now well

[1:35:10] of course we hear it in the

[1:35:11] news all the time the wildfires in Ontario and British

[1:35:14] Columbia and California Siberia and of course Australia these fires

[1:35:19] may not have been literally caused by climate change but

[1:35:22] they have certainly been exacerbated by it we're fortunate here

[1:35:25] in Richmond hill because we may not have the same

[1:35:28] emergency situations as in other parts of the world but

[1:35:31] our food sources and way of life will certainly be

[1:35:33] affected by it Furthermore this is a problem that we

[1:35:36] are partly responsible for because of our use of burning

[1:35:40] natural gas and fuel in our everyday life we don't

[1:35:43] need to be made to feel guilty though and the

[1:35:45] worst thing we can do is start shaming others for

[1:35:48] their lifestyle choices the best thing we can do is

[1:35:51] decide what solutions we need to work on and get

[1:35:54] down to business the staff report on climate change echoes

[1:35:57] what we had to drive down Richmond hill drive in

[1:35:59] Markham and drawdown Newmarket Aurora have already concluded and that

[1:36:03] is that we need to concentrate our efforts on the

[1:36:06] three areas that have the greatest carbon footprint one transportation

[1:36:10] turnips to home heating and cooling three land choices there

[1:36:14] are a hundred things that we could be doing that

[1:36:16] several of them were mentioned last Sunday in the climate

[1:36:18] change symposium they had to do with food choices and

[1:36:21] reducing food waste what we need from regional councils to

[1:36:25] help promote these ideas even more in the community some

[1:36:27] of us citizens are using our own time and money

[1:36:30] to achieve that which would be so much easier if

[1:36:32] we had some creative financial backing and some ongoing verbal

[1:36:35] acknowledgment I know the council and staff are busy with

[1:36:38] so many things on your plate and I appreciate that

[1:36:41] you're taking more time on the subject I appreciate the

[1:36:44] counselor Perrelli came to a community town hall and purchased

[1:36:49] a couple of books on climate change so they could

[1:36:51] learn more I appreciate getting to know Richmond hill staff

[1:36:54] practically Maria Flores miles flooring press floor Julius Lindsay who

[1:36:58] I know are putting their heart and soul into the

[1:37:00] resilient regional program outreach and figuring out what we can

[1:37:04] do better I look forward to their full community and

[1:37:07] energy emissions plan that is being prepared for release in

[1:37:10] twenty twenty one

[1:37:12] that some of you have taken the effort to purchase

[1:37:14] books to learn more I appreciate that we have a

[1:37:17] couple of champions on council especially counselor west he's always

[1:37:20] open to ideas and will be available to help us

[1:37:23] I hope that each of you cancers will reach out

[1:37:25] and have discussion in your wards and keep this conversation

[1:37:28] going and I look forward to working with you on

[1:37:31] additional outreach to the community and truly appreciate that Richard

[1:37:34] hell's efforts will be part of the global solution to

[1:37:36] climate change in the future excellent

[1:37:46] Kathleen wall

[1:37:57] hello ... I am representing bluedot Richmond hill reading a

[1:38:01] submission by Cheryl do and asking my colleague who regret

[1:38:05] she was not able to attend today

[1:38:08] we are all aware of the global threats we face

[1:38:11] due to climate change well Richmond hell be ready

[1:38:15] increased awareness and concern for the climate crisis was evident

[1:38:18] during the federal election and Richmond hill is reflected in

[1:38:22] the number of environmental groups that have formed over the

[1:38:25] past few years and Kerry listed those groups for you

[1:38:29] Richmond hill blue dot was established five years ago over

[1:38:32] this time we work with the city on a variety

[1:38:35] of initiatives providing our group first hand knowledge of the

[1:38:38] dedication and expertise of the Richmond hill staff and details

[1:38:43] of their environmental programs the report provided by council outlines

[1:38:48] much of the excellent work being done as it relates

[1:38:50] to climate change and the reduction of greenhouse gases or

[1:38:54] GHGs as mentioned in the reports municipalities have direct or

[1:39:00] indirect control over sixty percent of Ontario's GHG emissions as

[1:39:05] they plan and regulate growth and development along with transportation

[1:39:09] systems and networks it stands to reason to prioritize GHGs

[1:39:14] and energy since it impacts so many areas of climate

[1:39:18] concerns to address climate change it would benefit the municipality

[1:39:22] to review their policies on transportation buildings and land use

[1:39:26] through a climate plans we noticed that much of the

[1:39:30] staff work is ongoing data is being collected conclusions drawn

[1:39:34] additional time is required to drive effective policy recommendations it

[1:39:39] may be beneficial to have expectations and targets identified over

[1:39:43] the short medium and long term wise conclusions are made

[1:39:47] it's anticipated that actions will be recommended

[1:39:51] leading by example is always favorable and the city should

[1:39:54] consider an internal audit if this is not already under

[1:39:58] way to see what I'm

[1:40:00] Clinton savings can be made at the city level bluedot

[1:40:03] suggested staff address some of the limitations are facing especially

[1:40:08] as it relates to transportation and being a multi tiered

[1:40:11] municipality but there may be others we believe it would

[1:40:14] be beneficial to create or strengthen alliances with other York

[1:40:19] regional municipalities and the region to address transportation issues as

[1:40:24] they relate to emissions is encouraging to see stuff reaching

[1:40:28] out to organizations and community groups to capitalize on their

[1:40:32] expertise we suggested to be continued and expanded with limited

[1:40:37] resources it's important to forge strong alliances in order for

[1:40:41] Richmond hill to be a leader cancel me council needs

[1:40:44] to provide staff with the leeway to research innovative ideas

[1:40:48] to current and upcoming climate concerns they need the opportunity

[1:40:52] to access leading edge technology and solutions including those that

[1:40:57] can be found with collaborative organizations such as the Ellen

[1:41:01] macarthur foundation bluedot has recommended York region participate with this

[1:41:06] group and the region is reviewing the feasibility of that

[1:41:09] through regional council as you know our neighbours Newmarket Aurora

[1:41:13] and Toronto as well as hundreds of other municipalities have

[1:41:17] declared a climate emergency the city of Toronto has been

[1:41:21] very proactive by adopting many actionable initiatives as you can

[1:41:25] see listed and Cheryl submission

[1:41:28] business opportunities existing climate solutions found in the building industry

[1:41:33] infrastructure clean technology and other mitigating measures often these solutions

[1:41:38] find cost savings along the way such as when Richmond

[1:41:41] hill changed to LED lighting legislative pharmacy may impose to

[1:41:46] ration however funding and grant opportunities from other levels of

[1:41:50] government may be contingent on forward thinking initiatives we hope

[1:41:54] Christian health that's not who is out on these opportunities

[1:41:58] we are all part of the climate change problem we

[1:42:01] need to be part of the solution through collective efforts

[1:42:04] real change can occur to provide a sustainable healthy environment

[1:42:08] this summer in a better position to affect change we

[1:42:11] need your support to make this happen as Richmond hill

[1:42:15] counselors you've taken an oath of loyalty and honesty deep

[1:42:18] blue serve to serve the community server right that citizens

[1:42:22] of Richmond help there's no greater responsibility to ensure a

[1:42:25] safe and healthy climate

[1:42:28] future generations depend on the decisions we make today historically

[1:42:32] council has honored the residents through their commitment to protecting

[1:42:35] our environment we hope you will continue to honor your

[1:42:38] oath to Richmond hill residents recognize the good work that

[1:42:41] has been done by staff and set forth a motion

[1:42:44] to enhance and build on their initiative for the good

[1:42:47] of Richmond hill it is time for real action thank

[1:42:50] you

[1:42:56] thank you and this is

[1:42:59] N. 13.8 so what

[1:43:03] I thank you Mr mayor thank you to the delegates

[1:43:05] ... thank you for all the work collectively the you're

[1:43:08] doing your groups ... I do not have to squeeze

[1:43:11] this in in five minutes but I wanted to propose

[1:43:14] a motion in a minute and I wanted before I

[1:43:17] go through each individual detail of that the motion I

[1:43:19] want to talk a little bit about the purpose

[1:43:22] ... I want to the first purpose of the motion

[1:43:25] about two

[1:43:26] put forward is to reinforce the past work of staff

[1:43:30] and endorsed further actions but I also want to kind

[1:43:32] of highlight some of the priorities that have been laid

[1:43:36] out in this excellent staff in front of us I

[1:43:39] don't want the motion to show leadership in our community

[1:43:42] and the wider community and I I think in doing

[1:43:44] so I think it encourages other groups ... and to

[1:43:48] do more things collaboratively ... in Richmond hill

[1:43:52] ... I think in with climate change there's a million

[1:43:55] things we need to do and ... we need to

[1:43:57] go you know it they'll be a whole bunch of

[1:43:59] people that will be involved in doing those things

[1:44:02] I think it's really important that we inventory and measure

[1:44:05] our communities greenhouse gas emissions if it can't be measured

[1:44:08] it can't be monitored

[1:44:10] on a practical level I think that having a good

[1:44:13] plan will help us leverage grant funding and that was

[1:44:16] actually mentioned a couple of times by the delegates ...

[1:44:20] and I think that you know on a also on

[1:44:22] a practical level the ... you know reducing the effects

[1:44:26] of climate change will help us as a municipality to

[1:44:28] deal with our infrastructure so there are some very practical

[1:44:31] reasons where I think we need to take action but

[1:44:33] I also think I mean most importantly that's the right

[1:44:36] thing to do and ... it is it is urgent

[1:44:39] whether we call it an emergency or whether we don't

[1:44:41] still need to take action I think that's becoming more

[1:44:43] and more clear to Mr Clark if I could ask

[1:44:45] you to put the motion up on the screen

[1:44:49] ... I want to go to this really quickly get

[1:44:52] it and I'm happy happy to take questions from my

[1:44:54] colleagues so part a is simply just to ... knowledge

[1:44:58] the appreciate with appreciation they worked staff is taken thus

[1:45:01] far I think it's an excellent report and I think

[1:45:03] we are doing quite a bit in our community and

[1:45:05] I would encourage them and like council to be able

[1:45:07] to encourage them to do so

[1:45:10] ... part B. and all the sub sections deal with

[1:45:13] ... their star city's corporate climate change framework in our

[1:45:17] community emissions and energy plan

[1:45:20] one is ... I think it's really important in this

[1:45:22] was referenced in the staff report that we look at

[1:45:25] a lot of our decisions going forward through a climate

[1:45:28] lands almost any decision that we make it mean in

[1:45:31] the municipality has some impact on a positive or negative

[1:45:34] way on climate change and we need to start incorporating

[1:45:37] that in a more formal way in what we do

[1:45:40] I really think it's important that we number two that

[1:45:43] to take a greenhouse gas inventory for Richmond hill and

[1:45:46] I believe that is part of the community and energy

[1:45:48] emissions plan but I wanted highlighted here because I think

[1:45:51] it's important but on top of that I think we

[1:45:53] need to identify targets and time frames for greenhouse ...

[1:45:57] gas emission reductions

[1:45:59] number three ... I would like to explore our options

[1:46:02] incentives to enable homeowners in the building in in the

[1:46:06] homeowners for building an energy efficient it's C. retrofits to

[1:46:10] conserve energy you save money and reduce greenhouse gas emissions

[1:46:14] that is actually happening in that number of municipalities but

[1:46:17] when I know for sure is Toronto right now and

[1:46:19] they're they're wrapped I've started this program

[1:46:22] ... I'd like to have ... options to promote private

[1:46:25] property resilience and we talked about this at the beginning

[1:46:28] of the meeting where I'm you know we've had some

[1:46:30] flooding and we're going to continue to have some flooding

[1:46:32] so I want to make sure that homeowners have all

[1:46:34] of the resources that they they can't to safeguard their

[1:46:37] homes

[1:46:39] our number five one of the low hanging fruits I

[1:46:42] think that we all have right now is the electrification

[1:46:45] of our vehicles and I believe that there is an

[1:46:47] opportunity to electrify some of the city's fleet as our

[1:46:51] gas powered vehicles need to be replaced and also I

[1:46:55] think with that comes the ... the need for us

[1:46:58] to be talking about getting electric charging stations in as

[1:47:01] many places as we can including our own ...

[1:47:06] it also in others

[1:47:08] I think we also need to impact and enhance the

[1:47:11] capacity of our community to implement charter climate change actions

[1:47:14] by developing a climate change community outreach to look at

[1:47:17] and that's essentially to engage our community and to engage

[1:47:20] some of the really good work that's already going on

[1:47:23] in the community we have a lot to learn from

[1:47:25] each other and I think this is very important ...

[1:47:28] on that note a story a number seven we have

[1:47:32] a sustainability metrics program which is I believe is a

[1:47:35] work winning ... when we first came out but I

[1:47:37] believe that there's probably also ... a reason for us

[1:47:41] to be thinking about additional incentives that we can give

[1:47:44] to builders to make more ... sustainable design features to

[1:47:48] support support our climate change mitigation ... I would like

[1:47:52] to stick explore the possibility of joining the global covenant

[1:47:55] of mayors that was something that David Miller was talking

[1:47:57] about it at clean air council meeting that we had

[1:48:00] recently and I think there's a lot of learning that

[1:48:02] can be had from being in a network like that

[1:48:06] and it's just great

[1:48:07] minute more Mr mayor I would also like to investigate

[1:48:11] ... available grant funding because I think that there is

[1:48:14] grant funding available and I believe that in the future

[1:48:16] there will likely be more so

[1:48:19] so just to quickly wrap up ... I do want

[1:48:22] to thank staff again for their excellent staff report I

[1:48:25] think it's very comprehensive and I really appreciate it so

[1:48:29] ... this is not all of the important actions that

[1:48:32] we're taking in the staff report they have been outlined

[1:48:34] there actually are others but I think it's a great

[1:48:36] start and I also believe that this motion if passed

[1:48:40] will ... allow us to do more in the future

[1:48:43] with it it can be added on to so that's

[1:48:45] my motion thank you

[1:48:48] so it

[1:48:49] thank you Mr mayor I'll gladly second this motion and

[1:48:53] I want to thank cancel west for all the work

[1:48:55] that he does in this regard and the discussions that

[1:48:58] I had with him on an ongoing basis are immeasurable

[1:49:02] I also want to command ... all the local groups

[1:49:05] the three that have stepped forward here today including other

[1:49:08] organizations who also present here today who insure that climate

[1:49:12] climate change climate emergency discussions are very prevalent in in

[1:49:18] whatever they discussed to their ... in their meetings in

[1:49:22] the two towards the congregations of women at these organizations

[1:49:27] meet a most wanted thank staff the staff report that

[1:49:30] was delivered to us is exceptional and ... for policy

[1:49:35] from a policy wise discussion it is superb so thank

[1:49:39] you very much to all who were involved into the

[1:49:41] entire department

[1:49:43] there can be no question that there is no greater

[1:49:46] existential threat facing humanity and our planet today than a

[1:49:51] climate emergency because of everything that climate change is imposing

[1:49:58] on us

[1:50:01] we as human beings most definitely need to take that

[1:50:04] take into account what we do that could be an

[1:50:08] exacerbating and dad making a making climate change move even

[1:50:14] faster than it should in any normal cycle of of

[1:50:18] climate change at the earth has experienced for millennia

[1:50:23] we are stewards of this earth and we certainly owe

[1:50:25] it to the earth to do that the very least

[1:50:28] ... I believe that this motion also brings us better

[1:50:32] in line with other York regional municipalities and other municipalities

[1:50:37] and regions in the greater Toronto Hamilton area M. where

[1:50:41] they have also passed similar motions and declared climate emergencies

[1:50:46] ... it's a pleasure to sit on the cleaning a

[1:50:48] council with my two seat makes a concert chan and

[1:50:52] council west and we do very good work ... there

[1:50:55] was well and with this group M. as we as

[1:50:58] we begin to formulate even more ... more programs and

[1:51:03] more at to find to find better ways for municipalities

[1:51:07] to work ... with

[1:51:10] with the residents and to work with staff in order

[1:51:13] to effect greater change so ... I think every I

[1:51:19] believe that every point in this motion is is is

[1:51:23] necessary is germane and ... I want to thank again

[1:51:28] councillor west and all the other community organizations for helping

[1:51:32] us with this for today thank you

[1:51:36] thank you fleur wrote

[1:51:42] thank you Mister Merrick

[1:51:45] of the last time we approach this conversation

[1:51:51] admittedly wasn't aware of all of the initiatives going on

[1:51:55] ...

[1:51:56] the role of member of council is vast there's so

[1:52:00] much that we need to know about so it helps

[1:52:03] to go out to organizations as the ones that were

[1:52:07] mentioned by Liz

[1:52:09] and ... I did go out and ... surprisingly I

[1:52:14] learned quite a bit

[1:52:16] what I learned most Mister Merrett was that

[1:52:21] there are things that we can do

[1:52:25] not just as individuals but as a council

[1:52:29] and I'm committed to doing those things and suggesting to

[1:52:33] counsel that we do those things

[1:52:37] I'm not prepared to declare climate emergency because

[1:52:42] to me that's just words I'd rather have some action

[1:52:47] one of the things Mr mayor that I learned at

[1:52:49] that meeting were ... and I bought a couple of

[1:52:52] books admittedly I haven't read them yet

[1:52:55] I haven't had the time

[1:52:57] but in speaking with the experts I learned something very

[1:53:00] interesting Mister Merrett

[1:53:02] that

[1:53:04] ... my son for example lives in a condominium building

[1:53:07] and he said that the you know I I'm concerned

[1:53:09] about the environment I think we should transition to electric

[1:53:14] vehicles as opposed to gas powered vehicles I said fantastic

[1:53:18] ideas so let's buy an electric car he said can't

[1:53:22] that I said why is nowhere to charge up my

[1:53:25] car and my condo building

[1:53:28] I said what do you mean

[1:53:29] because I can charge it up neither can the other

[1:53:32] six hundred people that live in the building

[1:53:35] so

[1:53:37] maybe it's a little thing maybe it's a big thing

[1:53:39] I don't know but my commitment Mr Maher

[1:53:43] to the climate issue is that each and at now

[1:53:47] in the building code in the building code is already

[1:53:50] been mandated that if you build a town house in

[1:53:54] council Barroso correct me because he educated me on this

[1:53:58] ... if I make a mistake please jump in ...

[1:54:01] that in the building code if you build a single

[1:54:04] family a semi or town house it's mandated that you

[1:54:08] must have one electric charging station infrastructure built at

[1:54:16] but not nothing exists for highrise development

[1:54:21] so my commitment is and I've spoken to all the

[1:54:25] applicants that have applications in right now for any mid

[1:54:29] rise or high rise applications that they will not get

[1:54:33] my support unless they provide infrastructure for each and every

[1:54:40] parking space to have the infrastructure to put in an

[1:54:44] electric charging station for the vehicles

[1:54:47] because these buildings that are being built we'll be here

[1:54:51] for a hundred years

[1:54:54] and if they don't have the charging stations now or

[1:54:57] the infrastructure for it then it's incumbent upon the building

[1:55:01] ... corporation that was formed later to retrofit it at

[1:55:07] an even higher cost

[1:55:10] and we don't need to do that so my commitment

[1:55:13] is moving forward every application and I hope my council

[1:55:16] colleagues support me when those applications come forward to make

[1:55:21] sure that each and every parking space has the infrastructure

[1:55:24] for electric vehicles

[1:55:26] so ... yes there's a lot of things we can

[1:55:29] do these are some of them my question to you

[1:55:32] Mr mayor is this these are all wonderful ideas presented

[1:55:37] by councillor west

[1:55:38] and my question is what will be the impact on

[1:55:43] a staff resources for example timing to do this and

[1:55:48] do we need to bring this up at a budget

[1:55:52] through you know Charmander Pollock to see if we have

[1:55:55] the resource because it's it's nice to direct them to

[1:55:59] do this but if they don't have the resources that

[1:56:02] they can't do it and so I think maybe we're

[1:56:05] just putting the cart before the horse to you Mr

[1:56:09] mayor to I guess city manager ...

[1:56:13] or whoever this would be under

[1:56:17] ... three Mister maybe I'll refer that to ... ...

[1:56:21] commissioner Kwan I I this is the first time since

[1:56:23] I don't know exactly what they are ...

[1:56:27] what it all entails weather is captured and things that

[1:56:30] we are planning on doing or or not so when

[1:56:32] the offer that refer that to I'm in the same

[1:56:34] position city manager ... it this the first time I

[1:56:36] see all of these options and I don't know if

[1:56:39] we're already doing them or ... if their process or

[1:56:43] and we just need oversight or a confirmation to continue

[1:56:47] to do a number of their new initiative so we

[1:56:49] have to be cognizant of the time required by staff

[1:56:53] in

[1:56:54] so if if commissioner quite you're probably at the same

[1:56:57] disadvantage but try your best ... three Mister Merrill ...

[1:57:02] my observation is that the the certainly the introduction under

[1:57:06] paragraph B. talks about community energy and emissions plant so

[1:57:11] a lot of these initiatives can be incorporated into that

[1:57:14] and those are things that we would have already been

[1:57:16] doing such however there are some other things here like

[1:57:21] electrification of the of the city fleet and what not

[1:57:24] which you know what I would have to defer to

[1:57:26] somebody or investigate further so my colleagues as what those

[1:57:29] implications would look like and how far we can go

[1:57:32] but certainly a lot of these things are are well

[1:57:35] under way and I would consider these directives to be

[1:57:38] a little more focused on some of the specific issues

[1:57:41] in a festival of council we can certainly we will

[1:57:44] certainly do our best to investigate them further

[1:57:47] thank you Mr man my last ten seconds I'd like

[1:57:50] to move an amendment that we added the next Roman

[1:57:54] numeral after I. acts because I'm not familiar with what

[1:57:57] that is is it acts

[1:58:00] X. Hey I got it right ... yesterday if I

[1:58:03] got something right I got a treat but I guess

[1:58:05] not happen today ... just that acts that ...

[1:58:10] a staff be directed to ... as strongly urge all

[1:58:17] applicants for medium density and high density to have ...

[1:58:23] the infrastructure for electric vehicle charging at each and every

[1:58:29] parking space with their applications and then leave the rest

[1:58:34] the council will take care of it

[1:58:39] so if I spoke too fast Mr Clark

[1:58:43] but your speed writer I can see

[1:58:49] K. G.

[1:58:51] well if it's there sorry I didn't see a counselor

[1:58:53] west

[1:58:55] just I would recommend it to friends

[1:58:57] put in the work change but if you want it

[1:59:00] instantly that's not where is the council

[1:59:03] which one is which one is it

[1:59:07] number 5

[1:59:10] installation of electric charging stations in public and private developers

[1:59:14] buy

[1:59:15] right I'm not offended by putting it in as a

[1:59:18] extra

[1:59:19] things fall apart

[1:59:22] hello at

[1:59:24] yeah I just think yeah because I want to be

[1:59:26] more specific to the applications for the infrastructure as opposed

[1:59:30] to the charging station at south

[1:59:33] so 10

[1:59:38] thank you

[1:59:57] and

[1:59:58] differently 5

[2:00:01] yeah it's fun friendly J.

[2:00:04] I don't want to

[2:00:07] just because of the little ones that

[2:00:57] for every parking spot

[2:01:52] okay

[2:01:54] give

[2:01:56] is pilot

[2:02:00] thank thank you Mister Maher AJ I strongly support the

[2:02:03] the motion on the floor I think it's in keeping

[2:02:05] with the the ... the added to this council's having

[2:02:08] of taking action on on issues that ... you not

[2:02:12] not just merely words and statements but to to really

[2:02:15] put in some initiatives that are they're going to help

[2:02:18] ... to solve the problems do our part to take

[2:02:22] a leadership role we want to ... make sure all

[2:02:25] our buildings use energy as efficient as possible but ...

[2:02:28] we also want to discourage others I love the idea

[2:02:31] of forcing ...

[2:02:34] world with within within the realm of what we can

[2:02:37] forcing the applicants to come forward with with ... energy

[2:02:41] saving measures with the ... like two vehicle charging stations

[2:02:45] ... the building code should be changed it's it's we

[2:02:49] should also be ... lobbying the provincial government to change

[2:02:53] the building quote it's just ridiculous to put into a

[2:02:57] high rise building that's going to be there for over

[2:02:59] a hundred years and ... not have ... not of

[2:03:04] the ability of park electric vehicles overnight it's a small

[2:03:07] cost but it's a very important change is needed ...

[2:03:11] I support that and and actually a very simple ...

[2:03:14] ... ... pleased with the staff report and with all

[2:03:17] the work that's being done right now I don't I

[2:03:19] don't think we're communicating enough to the residents of Richmond

[2:03:22] hill of all these different initiatives that are underway I

[2:03:25] was surprised to learn that that our staff actually engaged

[2:03:28] in a process where every application is rated on it's

[2:03:33] on it's a new environment mon pharmacy sustainable ... aspects

[2:03:38] they have a number of criteria they have a point

[2:03:39] system and and ... is that it's it's taken very

[2:03:43] seriously by our staff I think this motion I would

[2:03:46] think also west gives users more tools and greater ability

[2:03:51] to go even further than they're going today but we

[2:03:53] we are doing a good job today we we wanna

[2:03:55] be leaders we encourage staff to do more of I'd

[2:03:58] like to see more being done I I want to

[2:04:01] I'd like to see ... ... environmental summit held here

[2:04:04] in in in Richmond hill and there's a lot of

[2:04:07] people we could invite in I think we could be

[2:04:09] the ones who ... ... your really really bring these

[2:04:13] issues out and ... plead with the provincial and federal

[2:04:17] governments for the for them to step up their efforts

[2:04:20] ...

[2:04:21] so I I'd like to see that happen

[2:04:25] like I said a lot of these initiatives ... good

[2:04:28] good job staff ... as far as the the cost

[2:04:31] implications of this admissions plan ... you let's let's let's

[2:04:37] see what comes forward and how much money the staff

[2:04:40] requires because it's money well spent I I've talked to

[2:04:43] so many residents in Richmond hill they're concerned about this

[2:04:46] their concern for their children and if we have to

[2:04:48] allocate some budget dollars to to making a proper functioning

[2:04:52] plan than than ... it's it's very reasonable to do

[2:04:56] so will have the support of the residence ... to

[2:04:59] to go forward so as as a budget cherub I'm

[2:05:03] in favor of spending ...

[2:05:06] ... whatever it takes to to put in an energy

[2:05:09] emissions plan that's going to be effective for the city

[2:05:12] thank you

[2:05:14] thank you customers

[2:05:17] thank you Mr mayor I like the way this conversation

[2:05:20] is is is going ...

[2:05:23] it is curious I was at the ... library conference

[2:05:26] ... week or two ago and ... movie ... internet

[2:05:30] might might childhood friend Katharine Hayhoe what was speaking to

[2:05:34] the masses ... and she was speaking from a bit

[2:05:37] of her Ted talk which was the V. and I

[2:05:40] wanna make sure quarter properly the most important thing you

[2:05:43] can do to fight climate change

[2:05:46] talk about it and she spoke with one gentleman who

[2:05:49] said he had a list of people he'd spoken to

[2:05:52] about little simple things

[2:05:55] and it was ten thousand some odd people that this

[2:05:58] individual is broken too so the the the the conversation

[2:06:02] that ... that I had one day with ... I

[2:06:05] think was let's get to work I said we need

[2:06:08] to speak to we need to you need to we

[2:06:10] all need to speak to those that are already in

[2:06:13] the choir

[2:06:15] because I see although I don't go to them I

[2:06:18] see the pictures online from these different seminars and that

[2:06:20] and it's good you're all talk to each other but

[2:06:23] I don't see many of my neighbors there I don't

[2:06:25] see many of the people that we want to get

[2:06:26] the message to so

[2:06:29] keep doing are you doing ... if I have a

[2:06:32] great idea I don't have it right now on how

[2:06:34] to get outside of that community to get the other

[2:06:38] people in that's what we need to do so

[2:06:43] talk about it

[2:06:45] I would side of

[2:06:47] hours make it a dinner talk at the dining room

[2:06:52] table

[2:06:54] but the things we can practically do I like the

[2:06:57] comment that that one of the speakers made today not

[2:07:00] of tacking people's lifestyle choices

[2:07:04] but little things simple things

[2:07:07] deputy mayor Perrelli picks me up quite often coming to

[2:07:11] the office

[2:07:13] the small thing but we're saving fuel in one vehicle

[2:07:17] and I don't drive so I like it

[2:07:20] I'm saving fuel he's not but that the planet is

[2:07:23] so there's all kinds of little things you can do

[2:07:24] that doesn't seem like a lot that if we can

[2:07:26] get that message out to some of our friends and

[2:07:28] neighbors

[2:07:30] every little bit will make a difference ... I support

[2:07:33] this ... this motion in front of us ... going

[2:07:36] to staff to examine the following directions seeing what's possible

[2:07:39] what's not what we are doing what can we do

[2:07:42] ... it's a good it's a good start thank you

[2:07:45] they give us a chance

[2:07:48] thank you for much ... Mister chair and I'd like

[2:07:51] to first of all thanks all the dedication three of

[2:07:54] you and I'll just touch on very briefly ... but

[2:07:57] also particularly ... to my seat mates ... concert Wes

[2:08:02] and consular service on this motion yes ... I'm also

[2:08:07] ... remember off do cleanup partnerships with Joe comprises of

[2:08:11] ... automate is pull ... elected officials that truck cross

[2:08:16] the ... returned and in Ontario Seoul is certainly something

[2:08:20] that for inspiring to hear all of not just a

[2:08:24] call to supporting it but

[2:08:26] community talking about those what's common for action community engagement

[2:08:31] leadership our focus on leadership because in addition to leadership

[2:08:36] in the community commit look into this console for their

[2:08:39] leadership and on that front I just want to share

[2:08:43] a number people already mentioned about ... come up with

[2:08:47] the greatest innovative measures to seek funding now in addition

[2:08:52] to to stop report which is ... really mentioning about

[2:08:55] that ... our city is already ... complying with a

[2:08:59] lot of the federation campus politics on departments for climate

[2:09:03] protection program in school what they did that that day

[2:09:06] which is great ... but also if the federation cat

[2:09:10] M. as parties it also runs a menace pope green

[2:09:14] fund the actually help to support projects that actually would

[2:09:19] be using no carbon ... up building ... greet infrastructure

[2:09:24] which is some of it is because before me I

[2:09:27] looked up to as well as all try to lower

[2:09:31] greenhouse emission projects in fact to see different which midfielder

[2:09:34] Tom Richmond used to get money from the ATM avocado

[2:09:38] green medical fund now the reason I bought brought it

[2:09:41] up is that there are opportunities out there to ...

[2:09:46] for the city and the stop in applying to some

[2:09:48] as I know because federation can miss potter also operate

[2:09:52] and run just after management ... ... funding which I

[2:09:56] believe our city might have ... apply for and dispatchers

[2:10:00] on what basically is ... I believe to be true

[2:10:04] that consul west Moshe talking about the metrics related to

[2:10:09] us than ability matching up and in fact ... the

[2:10:15] recently the ... they also manage but we'd find under

[2:10:19] SCM also attribute money my regional calls may know compared

[2:10:23] to richer a consular ... they give money to your

[2:10:26] region which were part of the development designed a method

[2:10:29] for optimizing I want to make sure I say it

[2:10:32] right the environmental effects of low impact development and again

[2:10:37] green infrastructure features so that the help is that the

[2:10:42] money is there we just have to tap into it

[2:10:44] often I'm glad that ... regional concert deputy mayor ...

[2:10:49] depart talking of booting colt in fact the cleanup partnership

[2:10:53] is calling upon of which we have an estimation log

[2:10:56] on on terribly difficult but the national political which until

[2:11:00] as part of province they have a consultation on going

[2:11:03] on now receiving submission until March thirteenth so we have

[2:11:07] almost a whole month to make submissions all in all

[2:11:10] I'm in full support of this I'm also glad that

[2:11:15] the key word on the B. part is in coral

[2:11:19] not just this list is not meant to be exhaustive

[2:11:22] and I'm glad that regional ... concert properly at all

[2:11:26] that number ten to make it I guess somebody caught

[2:11:30] ten it's a perfect number so while I like that

[2:11:34] to be not only perfect now but expanding the scope

[2:11:37] of within the resources we do have and in the

[2:11:40] end ... I want to hang up also thanks not

[2:11:43] for doing it very comprehensive report and I do agree

[2:11:47] I think someone mentioned it as somebody screwed things up

[2:11:50] you see different doing it should be more ... I

[2:11:53] guess share with the members of the community because for

[2:11:56] example on page one thirty for the report police say

[2:11:59] the city now after half trial videobull energy systems are

[2:12:04] in store the facilities office city we should not how

[2:12:08] come you know that which many attribute exercising leadership it

[2:12:12] just have to let people know more about so all

[2:12:14] in all

[2:12:15] all of which you know funding is there for both

[2:12:17] the public I mention about the federation can respond as

[2:12:21] we medical fund asset management funding but also their private

[2:12:25] somebody mention pie Fundacion all there's also one this call

[2:12:29] I believe the call the ...

[2:12:32] astronomical

[2:12:35] embassy

[2:12:37] the court T. A. F. ... sorry I brought up

[2:12:40] the right wording but thank you they also provide funding

[2:12:45] engaging private funders ... and also help with her from

[2:12:48] the public so there are endless so to speak on

[2:12:52] this matter I saw my typing for support funding opportunity

[2:12:56] to stop it this is the time thank you so

[2:12:59] so much

[2:13:01] today so up here one big loving family we all

[2:13:04] love this I'm gonna say to you I am so

[2:13:06] frustrated

[2:13:08] when we moved up here we are policy people up

[2:13:11] here that could be a tangible difference on what we

[2:13:13] want to do if we really want to do it

[2:13:16] and I said it yesterday in the discussion that we

[2:13:18] had the difference between politics and policy so for those

[2:13:22] that want politics I hope you're enjoying what you're hearing

[2:13:25] because that's what I'm hearing I'm not hearing action

[2:13:29] this community right now we have people who have contaminated

[2:13:32] water in Richmond hill today

[2:13:36] we have people today who have water and sewer back

[2:13:40] flow not from their fall from everybody else here says

[2:13:42] didn't affect me so when you flush your toilet and

[2:13:45] when my neighbor's backyard basement nine inches of it

[2:13:50] it's frustrating for me that when we say we want

[2:13:53] to help our residents on issues that affect climate change

[2:13:56] of which we can make option on here for example

[2:14:01] because we were close to your position we are responsible

[2:14:06] not by choice but were mandated by the province to

[2:14:10] do municipal act

[2:14:12] in a in a planning act

[2:14:15] some people here say I'm gonna play the politics to

[2:14:17] say I don't want change you don't want change we

[2:14:20] don't want change either effectiveness will get investment or water

[2:14:23] and sewers

[2:14:25] it's frustrating we want to reduce parking standards and I've

[2:14:29] moved four motions

[2:14:31] how many members of council here enacted those motions some

[2:14:35] of the people that this council say today yeah I'm

[2:14:38] all for this this is great

[2:14:41] then they vote about actionable items to would reduce GHG

[2:14:44] emissions

[2:14:45] shame and frustrating for me sitting here knowing what I

[2:14:50] know on this council because it's so busy but giving

[2:14:53] the optics and getting hopefully some good press because that's

[2:14:57] our focus there so as it relates to this motion

[2:15:00] thank you related to this motion talks about this motion

[2:15:03] talks about options options options enhancement get back with stuff

[2:15:10] money money money money let's go back let's do it

[2:15:14] I'm saying that I look forward and I hope you

[2:15:17] pay attention folks

[2:15:20] because there will be moving motions to affect people who

[2:15:22] are affected by climate change by this counts what we

[2:15:26] can do tangibly that we can make a difference that

[2:15:29] we affect the quality of life of people here this

[2:15:33] is about that's going to each other's let's hear some

[2:15:36] more reports let's get some feedback absolutely will go through

[2:15:40] there are reports there are reports so the car so

[2:15:44] let's start with that someone to one if you will

[2:15:47] look at the York regional profile and T. A. F.

[2:15:49] that's here in front of us and January twenty twenty

[2:15:53] reflecting this ... talks about how our emissions in Richmond

[2:15:57] hill and what we're doing for example and you look

[2:16:01] at the reports to come forward

[2:16:03] what we do about it

[2:16:05] nothing

[2:16:07] so yeah we'll we'll do this I'm hoping a stockist

[2:16:10] be an exercise

[2:16:12] I'm really hoping that members of council and more importantly

[2:16:16] the public in the population as a whole that we

[2:16:19] work collaboratively beyond our sphere here to look at the

[2:16:23] major issues

[2:16:25] because I really do want to make a difference I

[2:16:28] want to see tangible results I don't want to hear

[2:16:30] a year from now in two years now three years

[2:16:32] ago I attended another seminar I engaged here we had

[2:16:36] meetings

[2:16:37] can we please start having actionable targetable measurable qualified prioritizing

[2:16:48] check check check Jennifer a tortured soul Walgreens check check

[2:16:53] enter I love the banter

[2:16:55] and just saying I love the I love it so

[2:16:58] I'm hoping that the people in the audience

[2:17:01] can I make in my notes we'll see what the

[2:17:04] record is

[2:17:06] because it's not about optics for me it's about performance

[2:17:10] it's about reaching our objectives and it's hurtful to me

[2:17:15] because I'm up generally consider a guy that wants performance

[2:17:18] and expectations and deliverables

[2:17:20] so there's two types of cysts often as people in

[2:17:23] this council's commitment of Herzl state again

[2:17:26] I see parents 2 different ways

[2:17:29] you want to have chocolate for every lunch breakfast and

[2:17:31] dinner I'll give you chocolate

[2:17:33] there are other people that give you a balanced diet

[2:17:36] it's frustrating when you have people telling you what you

[2:17:40] want to hear and hear each of you what you

[2:17:41] want to do

[2:17:43] and they're not making measurable quantifiable when they have the

[2:17:48] opportunity to do so our policy when we're making choices

[2:17:53] because of politics of what the optics are

[2:17:58] you see the reaction by some of people in council

[2:18:00] future when your own thank you

[2:18:06] all right

[2:18:08] we have this motion before us as this

[2:18:12] all those in favor

[2:18:14] a post

[2:18:16] here is synonymous with

[2:18:19] yes all right

[2:18:30] find my way through this process

[2:18:37] this would be moving to 13 months 5

[2:18:43] listed

[2:18:45] 202020 community

[2:18:49] yeah I would like to respectfully ask if we can

[2:18:51] go to the community and cultural grant program okay perfect

[2:18:55] thank you

[2:18:57] we had we had delegations prior to that

[2:19:04] so it is 135

[2:19:16] okay this is with regard to their twenty twenty community

[2:19:20] and cultural grant program that we ... had before us

[2:19:26] January twenty second and it was made a move to

[2:19:29] this meeting ... and that staff be directed to advise

[2:19:34] all potential grant recipients identify in their life that they

[2:19:39] should consider attending the meeting to answer any questions of

[2:19:43] members of council

[2:19:45] and that was moved by concert probably censor

[2:19:50] we are on the

[2:19:53] the item now

[2:19:56] the Jewish mystic occurrence no

[2:19:59] it was just so that was an amendment to my

[2:20:01] main motion

[2:20:04] US so can I bring my main motion back to

[2:20:06] the floor

[2:20:08] my main motion was that we discontinue the community grant

[2:20:12] program

[2:20:15] okay and we are forever and we ... yes we've

[2:20:17] just to be consistent with the last ten years or

[2:20:21] so that I've voted on this

[2:20:24] all right fair enough he was in the it was

[2:20:27] our motion

[2:20:28] my apologies Sir no I talked to today

[2:20:33] so the motion is back before us did you push

[2:20:35] to move it

[2:20:37] the chair right

[2:20:39] that's what I just did Sir okay I just put

[2:20:42] it back on the floor so we have something to

[2:20:43] discuss all right

[2:20:54] once there

[2:20:57] I know I certainly that's that's what we're the motion

[2:21:02] is not approved issuing up twenty twenty community and cultural

[2:21:06] grants

[2:21:09] I would ... I'll speak for me ... I I

[2:21:13] do not believe that this is something that we should

[2:21:16] do in our community we have a number of community

[2:21:19] groups here we have a number of other cultural groups

[2:21:21] here that do met many many programs on behalf of

[2:21:24] our residents and bringing us

[2:21:27] culture and bringing us up to hold it all kinds

[2:21:31] of things in the community that we are all attending

[2:21:34] we're all involved in we've all spent a lot of

[2:21:37] time and volunteer time on these it is a yes

[2:21:41] I understand that ... it is a sixty five thousand

[2:21:46] dollar allocation in the budget ... which covers ... some

[2:21:52] twenty organizations for outside spinal covers the twenty organizations being

[2:21:58] able to ... to provide

[2:22:01] as I said the community cultural whatever it may point

[2:22:06] of order Mr practice all I'm suggesting thank you for

[2:22:09] that ... this should not be

[2:22:13] stopped

[2:22:15] in order

[2:22:17] I think it should not be stopped Mister mayor we

[2:22:20] don't have a second ...

[2:22:24] a severity

[2:22:26] your second I'll second the motion

[2:22:29] is that what you're asking me for

[2:22:33] so I moved the motion if you're asking me I

[2:22:34] can't scream well there is no second or so well

[2:22:37] you're the chair you need to petition if anyone could

[2:22:40] have second or not there's no reason a second or

[2:22:43] so

[2:22:44] yeah also okay to start

[2:22:53] I've given my

[2:22:55] understanding of

[2:22:57] why this should not happen however I'm only one person

[2:23:00] here so who else is speaking to speak on this

[2:23:04] matter

[2:23:07] do it

[2:23:08] I think it was me I cannot support this motion

[2:23:10] ... I do not want to repeat ... everything I

[2:23:13] said last time I think ... the all these organizations

[2:23:18] or their valuable to our community and they're trying to

[2:23:20] you know serving ... bills that we aren't we cannot

[2:23:24] directly sort of and and and honestly I think you

[2:23:27] know if you need any changes like I said last

[2:23:29] time ... don't do it this year you know we

[2:23:32] can always go back and revise the policy but these

[2:23:34] groups they already expect that we have the grant so

[2:23:39] ... but I cannot support this ... hopefully we have

[2:23:44] co counsel support because these groups ... they need the

[2:23:48] money they need the money thank you

[2:23:52] a surprise

[2:23:54] Mister mayor I I I agree with ... councillor Lee

[2:23:58] you ... that ... the the groups need the money

[2:24:02] I agree with you Mr mayor that the groups do

[2:24:06] invaluable work

[2:24:08] the the issue that I take with with the program

[2:24:11] is that what we're doing Mr mayor is we're taking

[2:24:16] residents taxpayers money and we're choosing which not for profit

[2:24:23] which charity to give it to

[2:24:26] and

[2:24:27] most recently Mr mer ... I I did a survey

[2:24:32] ... city wide survey and that was one of the

[2:24:35] questions that I asked

[2:24:37] how do the residents of Richmond hill feel about ...

[2:24:42] for a council to decide which charitable or not for

[2:24:47] profit organizations to give their hard earned tax dollars to

[2:24:52] and the overwhelming majority more than two thirds of the

[2:24:57] people responded with they didn't approve of council giving ...

[2:25:04] that money to not for profits or for culture for

[2:25:08] for any other reason really and charitable organizations of their

[2:25:12] choosing they believe that it should be something that's done

[2:25:17] on an individual basis in each household

[2:25:21] N. for example Mr mayor

[2:25:24] the and following with the spirit of this motion it

[2:25:29] was most recent that the ... for example the Italian

[2:25:32] seniors club reached out to cast their barrels been out

[2:25:36] long time supporter of the seniors even though he's only

[2:25:40] of the sea a Tallien scenes even though he's only

[2:25:41] thirteen percent Italian ...

[2:25:45] and they needed money

[2:25:47] N. Kelso Burroughs did not go to the public purse

[2:25:51] he came to me and said ... that PMR probably

[2:25:53] what are we gonna do we we need to help

[2:25:55] these seniors and I agreed with them

[2:25:58] and we went to the

[2:26:03] in the industry and we asked for support and private

[2:26:08] entities donated five thousand dollars to the Italian seniors quote

[2:26:14] and I think that's the type of support we need

[2:26:18] to give to our cultural groups so I say this

[2:26:22] I will support this motion before us but I say

[2:26:26] to all of the groups that are here today please

[2:26:30] reach out to your members of council we have the

[2:26:34] year of the community and we can help you raise

[2:26:38] the funds that you require

[2:26:41] I just don't feel comfortable taking taxpayers dollars and directing

[2:26:46] it to organizations of my choosing thank you Mr mayor

[2:26:51] as a chance

[2:26:53] thank you very much

[2:26:55] J. getting notices up just on this topic I said

[2:27:00] it before and he said a game ... I think

[2:27:03] the timing is an issue here and ... if I

[2:27:08] get through you Mister chair all right the question not

[2:27:10] a commission on community services wherein would decide

[2:27:15] potential ... or actual autos were commanded us welcome to

[2:27:20] stations would notify all anyone were notified that ... they

[2:27:25] could apply for such grants when was the time for

[2:27:30] you Mister chaired a commission

[2:27:33] ... looks like we have somebody that comes coming down

[2:27:36] the city okay

[2:27:48] ... three Mister chair we sent notifications out starting in

[2:27:52] July of twenty nineteen of the call for applications was

[2:27:55] open the call closed on November first twenty nineteen thank

[2:28:00] you I'm certain so all the information I have been

[2:28:05] disseminated to all come into organization who might be thinking

[2:28:11] about all I have all we have this projection mine

[2:28:16] planning for the next year twenty twenty double Sasha of

[2:28:19] course right July of twenty nineteen so

[2:28:24] now fast forward

[2:28:26] 9 months later

[2:28:28] we are saying to and also they can apply for

[2:28:31] amber so people things up all over can I say

[2:28:34] should call for a process through the board would warn

[2:28:36] peers and that over four months they come up with

[2:28:40] an application and then in November and then my understanding

[2:28:44] from the people's report we have all stopped as well

[2:28:47] as engaging authors ... in the area to make the

[2:28:51] judgment I say goals although recommend ones to console to

[2:28:56] approve it in a call miss all those timelines and

[2:28:59] procedures

[2:29:01] from my end I honestly don't feel is fair if

[2:29:05] you're looking at those con a logical development timelines nine

[2:29:09] months later the groups all it has been a mistake

[2:29:13] I'm sorry ... we are not going to find it

[2:29:16] the issue of course console the majority can make that

[2:29:19] decision but I for one I I I would I

[2:29:24] believe comes from you may I mention it if we

[2:29:26] want we do thinking about that may eight ... ...

[2:29:30] ritual consta purchased mention is not the source for this

[2:29:34] kind of funding all let it be known not

[2:29:39] so we won't do anything in this July coming twenty

[2:29:43] twenty to let people know all by the way come

[2:29:46] up with some you know we could put checks for

[2:29:48] to commit to a joy to and reach our cultural

[2:29:51] life but to tell people nine months after that the

[2:29:55] city of Richmond we see interested hearing from you receiving

[2:29:59] your app

[2:30:00] cation in November and then setting up not just expectation

[2:30:04] all I would venture to surmise that some organizations listed

[2:30:08] on page ninety three ... on the on on on

[2:30:11] on the previous ... meeting January twenty second my already

[2:30:14] gone through certain things on promotion not mine too ...

[2:30:19] maybe looking back you might not want to offend any

[2:30:22] of your resources limited resources before after I got the

[2:30:25] money but but presumably that was not something that one

[2:30:29] would have thought an applicant I thought all

[2:30:33] 4 months later application

[2:30:36] there's nothing so I have given does come logical development

[2:30:40] timelines what I'm trying to illustrate everyone all right I

[2:30:44] I would be open to say for twenty twenty and

[2:30:47] beyond not to issue any more commit cultural grants but

[2:30:52] stop at this point in time in my view is

[2:30:56] totally unfair to community organizations that doing something good to

[2:31:02] ...

[2:31:04] we'll make our cities ... cultural life vibrant soul with

[2:31:09] respect I cannot support this motion thank you

[2:31:14] I'm also pointing

[2:31:18] that's nice okay fair enough but maybe

[2:31:23] okay

[2:31:25] because so much

[2:31:27] the data analyst so this plan has really changed the

[2:31:31] last fifteen years

[2:31:34] it's too bad

[2:31:35] it changed from a format of we're gonna help community

[2:31:39] members as a government for those that are helping in

[2:31:43] the community to show recognition of their efforts and to

[2:31:46] support them

[2:31:48] to a position now that has become a requirement by

[2:31:54] some to fund programs and some of the people that

[2:31:58] are coming forwards are not from or in Richmond hill

[2:32:02] or have some form of attachment the committee is doing

[2:32:04] a good job ... they got lots of choices we

[2:32:07] have a much bigger need than we have ... that

[2:32:11] are once and I'm sure that all we want to

[2:32:14] recognize all the work that our volunteer and outreach organizations

[2:32:17] do this ... some that did applies some of didn't

[2:32:20] summit will get phone some won't

[2:32:22] but

[2:32:24] the process has become politicized

[2:32:28] the ... amount of money that's given is not given

[2:32:32] unanimously across the spectrum it's given to selection groups

[2:32:37]

[2:32:39] that's not the intent of the program

[2:32:41] the intent of the program its design is saying we're

[2:32:46] going to

[2:32:47] a service

[2:32:49] not fun assist in the engagement of what those organizations

[2:32:54] are doing to give them

[2:32:57] some support

[2:33:00] once again

[2:33:03] absolutely yeah we'll give you as much money as you

[2:33:05] want you want to are those in favor of those

[2:33:06] million dollars five million keep going

[2:33:09] no no no hold on the school skills there were

[2:33:12] times these gentleman used to be a hundred fifty dollars

[2:33:15] not long ago

[2:33:17] $50 which together

[2:33:19] $300 no it's going into thousands

[2:33:23] used to be used to be used to be a

[2:33:25] token and those different ... you don't like that because

[2:33:29] for whatever else once again our mandate here our responsibility

[2:33:34] to the people who want to live work and play

[2:33:38] and have a great community and represent and recognize

[2:33:42] so certainly one of them is a council which is

[2:33:44] really challenging because when you go to communities like Quebec

[2:33:49] and the Quebec or say we care about Quebec or

[2:33:51] Quebecers we love Quebec we love we're here to support

[2:33:54] our community and sort of finance similar communities here we

[2:33:57] have people fighting against other members it's to me started

[2:34:00] shooting when you're people saying we want to give we

[2:34:03] want to help well I don't want his help I

[2:34:05] don't like him for

[2:34:09] there are people in this community that are willing to

[2:34:11] give and help them grow and we turn away

[2:34:16] we turn away because of our attitude towards being a

[2:34:20] sharing in a caring community I don't think it's up

[2:34:23] to government the greatest respect to go the taxpayer to

[2:34:27] say I want you to pay more taxes the fight

[2:34:30] for your quality of life with every doing on fixed

[2:34:32] incomes and we arbitrarily go choose where it's going to

[2:34:36] go or not go ... I really think that we

[2:34:39] should be focusing we have real challenges here

[2:34:42] real challenges of basic goods of water sewer garbage really

[2:34:46] parks

[2:34:47] the quality of life issues we need to focus on

[2:34:49] our mandate and once the things becomes politicized rebel filler

[2:34:53] core mandate I start to say come on guys

[2:34:58] why did we change this process why is it going

[2:35:01] this way and wire the funds going so crazy and

[2:35:03] why are some people getting hurt and why are we

[2:35:06] doing better so I see it as of offered others

[2:35:08] from a library on

[2:35:10] okay we can help you manage and service

[2:35:14] many of us here raise money

[2:35:16] some of us raise money to get a picture in

[2:35:18] the paper others raise money and say here you go

[2:35:20] without fanfare

[2:35:22] because we're here to serve and help and grow our

[2:35:24] community together so I'd see you that I don't

[2:35:29] looking at the

[2:35:32] current file and where it's gone in our evolution I've

[2:35:35] only been here five years I find it interesting when

[2:35:37] I go back in history and I start talking to

[2:35:39] previous councils with the mandate where these funds were and

[2:35:41] how they evolve

[2:35:44] we deserve to serve the residents on our priorities first

[2:35:50] and our wishes second absolutely support the group's absolutely do

[2:35:55] everything I can to help but not at the expense

[2:35:58] of hurting others and not when it becomes one factor

[2:36:01] or another so I last council meeting said I would

[2:36:05] like to transition this and work with it it gets

[2:36:08] to a point where it's either or and you guys

[2:36:11] are probably witnessing a part of it you know something

[2:36:13] maybe the first time you have people here who are

[2:36:15] just

[2:36:17] agitated I said most polite way

[2:36:21] and I say it really is hard to see the

[2:36:24] negativity so because of that I will support this motion

[2:36:28] to my regret but I will give support and other

[2:36:31] means thank you

[2:36:33] all right and now a

[2:36:36] Castro

[2:36:37] you wish to speak second round

[2:36:40] Sir

[2:36:43] thank you Mr mayor

[2:36:45] I respect you know

[2:36:47] a colleague said different views on this one

[2:36:50] but ... I think ... concert chain made a very

[2:36:53] good point

[2:36:54] the

[2:36:55] which when you created this program

[2:36:58] we call for application people has they have an expectation

[2:37:02] that somehow they're going to get the grant and they

[2:37:06] continue their program to serve all residents

[2:37:10] total taxpayer money

[2:37:13] they can go to federal they can go to provincial

[2:37:15] is getting harder and harder to get provincial and federal

[2:37:18] funding so they come to us

[2:37:21] and

[2:37:24] at the end of the day it's all taxpayer money

[2:37:26] even though the vehicle to provincial grants federal grant is

[2:37:30] taxpayer money so I don't think that's the big issue

[2:37:33] here with us but I understand

[2:37:36] there's a favorite or some I don't know but because

[2:37:38] we'd set up set out the criteria

[2:37:41] and these group they all meets our criteria so that

[2:37:44] they kept the finding that the staff suggested

[2:37:48] so I don't see why we are all of a

[2:37:49] sudden you know stopping this this year as I relate

[2:37:54] re iterate you know it if you want to stop

[2:37:56] we can always discuss ... in council about what we

[2:38:01] could do with future but just putting his full stop

[2:38:04] here and telling all of groups at okay no more

[2:38:07] findings go back home

[2:38:09] sorry I can't do that

[2:38:13] okay another second rounder concert chance

[2:38:17] thank you for much ... Mister chair Mister mayor off

[2:38:21] I wasn't think of our second term a second wrong

[2:38:23] but but interesting talking about looking at the funding criteria

[2:38:29] and I look at this program by the way

[2:38:32] while holding hands together talk about communication today ... this

[2:38:36] is a picture tells a thousand things the first thing

[2:38:40] is that the criteria is benefit benefit to should Richmond

[2:38:45] hill in terms of economic impact committee responsiveness and all

[2:38:50] enhancement of Richmond hill is a match now they have

[2:38:55] to do that in addition to other things

[2:38:58] evidence of give me a partnership of law not more

[2:39:01] than five thousand dollars

[2:39:03] you look at the all the way

[2:39:06] one could top one percent meat that is sector investment

[2:39:11] many of these organizations from what I'm granted the list

[2:39:15] I'm not getting five thousand dollars ... somebody be as

[2:39:19] little as five hundred dollars now if it

[2:39:23] five hundred dollars even up to five thousand dollars would

[2:39:26] help to enhance a benefit Richmond hill enhancement of ...

[2:39:32] in may H. community responsiveness engagement economic impact not I

[2:39:38] would have hoped that when they come back with the

[2:39:41] evaluation plan and report that to demonstrate that otherwise I'm

[2:39:46] sure all expressed office hours to three citizen members were

[2:39:50] looking over all this grant application eight sorry you say

[2:39:53] you're going to do is is quick things A. B.

[2:39:55] C. you never deliver that's the end of it may

[2:39:58] be only one one year wonder so I'm going back

[2:40:02] to my my point that up surprise surprise city all

[2:40:06] of Richmond is unlocked the only minister party providing all

[2:40:11] you know they can call different names culture and community

[2:40:13] grant well I don't even want to compare city of

[2:40:16] Toronto which is F. two point seven million people total

[2:40:20] authority but looking at even smaller cities than us I'm

[2:40:24] just picking up right here C. T. often debate

[2:40:28] all your own they have community you'll find cultural funding

[2:40:33] at this mortar feels US cities and towns so again

[2:40:37] hi as I've said before I can also participate because

[2:40:41] all of just in terms of the expectation continues talking

[2:40:45] about people were given the impression nine months ago something

[2:40:49] they can plan for a different office applications almost four

[2:40:53] months later six oh sorry

[2:40:55] stock up if we're doing it again I said I'm

[2:40:58] open minded indeed discussion for budget for twenty twenty one

[2:41:03] maybe this is not the best yourself a sixty thousand

[2:41:05] dollars whatever I'm for it but at the moment the

[2:41:08] game looking at funding criteria these groups they have to

[2:41:12] demonstrate benefit

[2:41:15] to which one it was economic impact I'm sorry we've

[2:41:18] done done but you got my point so I'm not

[2:41:20] going to support this and I I look forward to

[2:41:23] the discussion and twenty twenty one when it got to

[2:41:25] the township will should we thank you and I think

[2:41:28] which we know can do better than maybe I should

[2:41:30] say that thank you

[2:41:34] shares thank you Mr mayor to ... to wrap up

[2:41:39] ...

[2:41:40] I did just want to be clear because I'm hearing

[2:41:43] from some of my colleagues and I I respectfully disagree

[2:41:47] with them ...

[2:41:50] they would have invaded the applicant's would've been told very

[2:41:54] clearly by staff that there is no money until council

[2:41:58] votes so an expectation that they had a check already

[2:42:03] in the mail if staff told them that I don't

[2:42:05] believe they would have if they thought that by accident

[2:42:09] well we all know that that's not true

[2:42:12] many people filled out applications to get a bank loan

[2:42:15] or to get a mortgage to buy a house and

[2:42:17] they know until the bank comes back with here is

[2:42:20] your approval you don't get money that's just a fact

[2:42:24] of life so to suggest

[2:42:27] that people were expecting it it's council that makes the

[2:42:31] decision so everyone knew that so I I don't believe

[2:42:35] there was an expectation and that we're leaving people in

[2:42:38] the lurch

[2:42:39] ... it is curious it's been twenty one days since

[2:42:43] I made that motion

[2:42:45] that was a bit curious M. M. is my office

[2:42:47] going to be flooded with residents I gonna get petitions

[2:42:52] is is the phones would be ringing off the hook

[2:42:54] you know monitoring social media

[2:42:58] which pretty much crickets

[2:43:02] life just kept going on it was in the local

[2:43:04] newspapers you know so it was publicized

[2:43:07] so the message for me was was strong that I

[2:43:11] was still on the right path and and I feel

[2:43:14] I feel badly for the organizations that are now having

[2:43:17] to seek alternative financing yeah I belong to other organizations

[2:43:20] that that don't come here they just speak the funding

[2:43:24] from the community they get it in a move on

[2:43:26] so I I I I know the resourcefulness the ingenuity

[2:43:30] of our community that people steer their ship somewhere else

[2:43:35] in the continue one ...

[2:43:38] so I'd say Mr mayor thank you

[2:43:40] all right

[2:43:42] yes okay before the vote

[2:43:45] quotable yes yeah

[2:43:53] I'm so sorry no I'm sorry so my

[2:43:57] for calling the vote on it's telling

[2:44:03] she was not a delicate

[2:44:05] 15 minutes

[2:44:08] the

[2:44:09] that's right I just don't understand

[2:44:13] the decision

[2:44:17] okay that's fine no there with the delegation we have

[2:44:20] signed up for and then tore you speak at the

[2:44:22] beginning so to speak okay

[2:44:27] that's fine that's all yeah okay please come forward

[2:44:33] 05

[2:44:36] D. A. why say something is not on the agenda

[2:44:41] okay we finance

[2:44:44] hi this

[2:44:46] okay members accounts so we're in favor of you speaking

[2:44:49] yeah now we're not gonna open up many many people

[2:44:54] last year we haven't

[2:44:59] there is no

[2:45:01] that's work

[2:45:05] well there were no questions

[2:45:08] I just want to speak in support of the cultural

[2:45:11] grant I represent course your person heading into our fourth

[2:45:15] season and we have presented three to four concerts a

[2:45:18] year we work with the symphony ... we have worked

[2:45:21] with the Historical Society we have been connecting with other

[2:45:24] groups we are based in Richmond hill ... we don't

[2:45:27] run rely solely on the ... on cultural granted it

[2:45:30] has been very helpful we have a professional director ...

[2:45:33] we're trying to provide ... and promote the culture of

[2:45:36] ... through music in ... in Richmond hill so ...

[2:45:41] I really feel I think history has proven that ...

[2:45:44] societies that kind of turned it back on culture ...

[2:45:47] live to regret it so and we have tried to

[2:45:50] reach out to others in the community ... we have

[2:45:53] had some support but to produce the quality of the

[2:45:57] product we need money and ... yeah and we have

[2:46:01] a symphony here represented we have other groups that are

[2:46:04] represented and ... it's been proven that music is ...

[2:46:08] inspirational it's healthy it's it helps people in a variety

[2:46:12] of levels motional physical ... it's very valuable and ...

[2:46:18] Chris it's a topic dear to my heart I am

[2:46:20] a retired music teacher and I live in Richmond hill

[2:46:23] for many years so I really would hate to see

[2:46:26] this grant ... disappear so and if anyone else like

[2:46:30] to speak to that please tell

[2:46:33] thank you for your views spoke of stood up at

[2:46:36] the very beginning so aggressiveness fairness

[2:46:41] all right to call her thank you to Mister mayor

[2:46:45] voting on the motion of cancer barrels cancer chan no

[2:46:51] cancer early you

[2:46:53] cancer Verreaux's mayor pero

[2:46:57] no

[2:46:58] regional local culture to Paula yes

[2:47:01] reach a local councillor pearly yes councillor Munch yes

[2:47:10] that motion carries only

[2:47:14] okay

[2:47:22] we have 2 more items

[2:47:25] if we do

[2:47:35] 1370

[2:47:43] the ticket right

[2:47:47] all

[2:47:48] we should get close to him okay should we got

[2:47:54] trucks

[2:47:55] all

[2:47:59] okay

[2:48:00] global

[2:48:03] I'm gonna finish this

[2:48:07] the

[2:48:09] the street name

[2:48:14] yeah okay

[2:48:17] sure enough thirteen seven the ... private street naming consular

[2:48:21] plumbers want

[2:48:23] those are coming

[2:48:26] yes

[2:48:29] thank you Mister Maher

[2:48:32] V. E. day victory day date of may

[2:48:37] it'll be 75 years

[2:48:39] since the guns fell silent

[2:48:43] and the world was changed forever

[2:48:47] we celebrate the sacrifices we mourn the losses of those

[2:48:54] that have gone before us

[2:48:56] and I want to thank staff for taking the words

[2:49:01] the council gave them a while ago in working with

[2:49:04] the legion to find members of our community

[2:49:08] to put on street names

[2:49:10] so that we will not forget so I'm happy to

[2:49:13] move the motion for this private street naming which yet

[2:49:16] again puts veterans names on streets in Richmond hill with

[2:49:21] a popping

[2:49:23] so the people don't forget thank you Mr mayor

[2:49:25] all right very well said

[2:49:30] we have a number second there his brother comments on

[2:49:35] this site

[2:49:37] all those in favor of toasted Calrissian animacy

[2:49:44] all right

[2:49:47] it's just okay I just wanted to see where we

[2:49:49] are so we have the the budget

[2:49:52] it's a deal with although I think that's going to

[2:49:54] be fairly sex partner yes we will yeah I was

[2:50:00] still with the budget and then we'll move to the

[2:50:02] next item and it's been a good camera with this

[2:50:05] camera

[2:50:06] there's the concession refuse to

[2:50:10] so we've got a lot of work yeah yeah right

[2:50:14] okay what

[2:50:17] we talked about we will

[2:50:20] but

[2:50:23] okay the budget but a budget so it's still with

[2:50:27] the budget to do with it I don't like that

[2:50:29] is there any issues with the button

[2:50:32] turn the turn to

[2:50:35] yeah syncing up thirteen three strategist in there just proposed

[2:50:39] to move the staff recommendations that we the the budget

[2:50:42] has forwarded to budge from budget committee we were all

[2:50:46] there will will hold nothing's changed it's been ... ...

[2:50:51] since the change of been a corporate into these final

[2:50:54] figures and amounts and I just happen to move that

[2:50:57] a congratulations all those involved again ... very ... a

[2:51:02] very positive going for going forward look for Richmond hill

[2:51:06] always that's responsible and looking at our long term viability

[2:51:12] second the

[2:51:15] the man happy to second the motion

[2:51:17] okay

[2:51:20] sure well we are we just doing the revised recommendations

[2:51:24] from this to Texas ... momentum that was the first

[2:51:32] okay

[2:51:34] because I would like a separated please

[2:51:39] I would like a separated out

[2:51:42] okay and then asking for a recorded vote

[2:51:47] all right let's get this

[2:51:54] back to

[2:51:59] okay thirteen twelve and it was the memo the ...

[2:52:02] that we received one seventy one of one seventy five

[2:52:07] the revised recommendations and I'm I'm sorry the recommendation number

[2:52:11] that you wish so I went a step further Hey

[2:52:16] for Citrix for yeah

[2:52:18] yeah a one to be separated out from the rest

[2:52:21] okay and recorded votes for both please

[2:52:25] 15 comments

[2:52:28] they want to skip the full

[2:52:32] the 5

[2:52:34] okay so we've got

[2:52:38] well it's it's a one it's the one that we

[2:52:41] got the memo we

[2:52:48] well received has any comment I have

[2:52:52] I have it here

[2:52:53] there

[2:52:55] there you go

[2:52:57] so referring to yes the A. one regarding the firefighters

[2:53:02] I want that separated out not a A. one

[2:53:07] okay

[2:53:10] Mr Clark with this other

[2:53:13] comments that could do it

[2:53:16] gradually stir

[2:53:18] but

[2:53:20] through Mister mayor voting on ... so I'm going to

[2:53:23] pull up that one and they will vote on all

[2:53:24] the rest of closes out my understanding yes so ...

[2:53:28] voting on

[2:53:29] some because a one culture silhouettes no

[2:53:35] 0

[2:53:37] cancer Leo

[2:53:39] reach a local councillor Paula yes cancer Munch yes cancer

[2:53:43] Verreaux's cancer chan no

[2:53:47] region local cancer proudly yes cancer west

[2:53:54] so because A. one carries only voting on the remainder

[2:53:58] of the motion cancer cell events yes reach a local

[2:54:02] councillor Paula yes cancer Leo

[2:54:07] cancer Verreaux's regional cancer probably yes cancer Munch

[2:54:13] cancer chan yes cancer west

[2:54:16] Miro yes

[2:54:19] the balance of the motion carries unanimously in the entire

[2:54:22] motion is carried

[2:54:24] thank you good very good answers and gradually thanks to

[2:54:27] a treasure finance team

[2:54:30] okay we are going to take a break for a

[2:54:32] while

[2:54:34] of all

[2:54:39] okay 11

[2:54:43] all 25

[2:54:44] additionally back in one second one

[2:54:49] so

[3:33:24] back

[3:33:25] yeah

[3:33:26] so we do have a lot of

[3:33:29] sensitive

[3:33:31] I have this right what

[3:33:37] would you wish to

[3:33:41] well of

[3:33:43] this is regarding the

[3:33:46] we've already started

[3:33:50] words to I'm gonna talk for just more to just

[3:33:53] because the way our councils

[3:33:55] the word word word to specifically and some members of

[3:33:59] council knew that on January the eleventh

[3:34:03] we had a massive

[3:34:05] event because on me on January tenth we each received

[3:34:08] an email from Elektra telling us that the major event

[3:34:11] ... for this water's coming in

[3:34:13] the sewers backed up in York region which meant all

[3:34:17] of our sewer that feeds into York region was back

[3:34:19] flowed in

[3:34:20] so those homeowners who the current provincial building code requires

[3:34:25] new housing to have back flow valves anybody who lives

[3:34:30] in an older unit

[3:34:32] likely does not have a back flow valve and if

[3:34:34] they were at a low point

[3:34:37] the sewer from the Richmond hill city went into those

[3:34:43] people's homes for

[3:34:45] and what's funny is you could have a semi detached

[3:34:48] house and house one would get it and hopes to

[3:34:52] didn't

[3:34:53] right next to each other

[3:34:55] I've been contacted by people throughout Richmond hill when I

[3:35:00] met no frills were real female people they're coming around

[3:35:03] Richmond hill it's really remarkable

[3:35:06] I've since learned that residents have outraged and I've gone

[3:35:09] to the newspaper and the trauma star and I'm expecting

[3:35:12] an article I got an email from couple news outlets

[3:35:16] so what my motion is today's to say and what

[3:35:18] we agreed with staff I've had private meetings and I

[3:35:22] respect what different word counts and have their meetings so

[3:35:25] when they have their meetings I don't interchange I mean

[3:35:27] there's still a spirit I'm gonna do what I do

[3:35:29] my work explain it to you so I engage with

[3:35:32] stakeholders from the garbage residents businesses staff

[3:35:38] leadership and and the you know white blue collar

[3:35:44] and what we've agreed is that we're going to continue

[3:35:46] to research to find out how many people really affected

[3:35:49] try to get a framework of thought number two what

[3:35:51] we agreed to with the help of of Elmar another's

[3:35:55] and mayor who gave the idea

[3:35:58] saying that we should try to make sure that the

[3:36:00] garbage people when they're driving up and down the street

[3:36:03] that they actually will pick up the garbage that's left

[3:36:06] over from the remnants of that

[3:36:09] just so we're clear here another thing I know is

[3:36:12] that our

[3:36:14] depending on which insurance company you're with you're gonna get

[3:36:16] a different result so some insurance companies say that contamination

[3:36:20] just wipe it off with a cloth I want to

[3:36:23] try your fine

[3:36:25] there are other other insurance companies that say

[3:36:28] other insurance companies so if you have a washer and

[3:36:31] dryer fewer fridge in the basement just unplug it assuming

[3:36:35] the electrical wasn't hit and once the letter freon said

[3:36:38] anything else it put it back in your good and

[3:36:40] when they start the dryer the furnace ... it emits

[3:36:44] heat or anything else sometimes those people are fellow feeling

[3:36:47] you're smelling a residue and the insurance people are local

[3:36:51] TV an expectation from a resident

[3:36:55] yeah ... but if I'm a resident they say when

[3:36:57] I flush the toilet I expected to go out of

[3:36:59] my house they don't have an expectation of in the

[3:37:02] middle of the five o'clock on a Saturday and all

[3:37:05] the sudden be parted and flooded with waste

[3:37:12] so their expectations will the city must be responsible this

[3:37:15] is not a city of Richmond hill issue

[3:37:18] per se it is but it isn't this case was

[3:37:21] the region was overwhelmed through a event that took place

[3:37:25] and our capacity couldn't handle it and it it enacted

[3:37:30] some people so what I'm asking is in the motion

[3:37:33] is number to where we're starting we're getting information out

[3:37:35] there we're gonna communicated to communicate with residents ... I've

[3:37:39] heard from a number of residents across Richmond hill

[3:37:43] and I'm saying that when they have once we learned

[3:37:47] of these

[3:37:48] situation those households should have their garbage picked up

[3:37:53] so I'd like to say for the stress motion today

[3:37:56] the only thing is to say when we know ...

[3:38:00] that we have a reasonable compromise that this is from

[3:38:04] an extraneous event you see coaches and and you know

[3:38:08] ... dishwashers new see Bellamy in a cabin a tree

[3:38:13] and carpets outside

[3:38:17] then would like that the picked up because I really

[3:38:19] don't want to be sitting on the street for another

[3:38:21] month or somebody else I don't wanna be a dumping

[3:38:23] ground for others sore asking if we could ask Miller

[3:38:26] and stuff to try to accommodate that by giving either

[3:38:30] these garbage tags to select the people so does become

[3:38:33] a free for all for garbage and ...

[3:38:37] you know if they won't have a contact in contact

[3:38:38] me or contact their member of council

[3:38:43] and then with further research to be done to see

[3:38:45] what next steps we as council can do to help

[3:38:48] the people of Richmond

[3:38:51] correct correct it's just

[3:38:55] with

[3:38:56] first thing is stuff the judge of conflict or is

[3:38:59] he going to use to call into question waste waste

[3:39:03] from people who have been impacted by the January eleventh

[3:39:10] flood

[3:39:17] and that ... if residents are impacted they can they

[3:39:21] should be contacting the member of council

[3:39:25] and that's it

[3:39:28] why did we get

[3:39:35] you certainly

[3:39:38] okay perfection is

[3:39:41] the status

[3:39:43] this happened

[3:39:45] right the

[3:39:47] hello

[3:39:49] 13

[3:39:51] okay

[3:39:53] it seems to be a long time but it took

[3:39:55] a long time for things other than the fact

[3:40:03] we aware of that either all of the region we

[3:40:11] let me just if I may three Miss America from

[3:40:13] ... from operations are on the road perspective and appreciate

[3:40:17] councilman should cancer munches comments with ... speaking with staff

[3:40:21] on the serve on the ground issues and we're definitely

[3:40:24] looking at supporting and I understand there's a meeting with

[3:40:27] with a couple of staff in the some survey work

[3:40:29] to happen and I know with with with our water

[3:40:31] operations which operations guys they're just went away for some

[3:40:35] feedback and see what things we can do so there's

[3:40:37] some

[3:40:38] article things that we were happy to assist with wherever

[3:40:41] we can without creating the president essentially ... that's the

[3:40:44] idea ... but they're also legal aspects or ... you

[3:40:48] know liability aspects which I think maybe ... twenty would

[3:40:51] be pro better speak to with regards to the comments

[3:40:54] are getting from residents claims are told to get claims

[3:40:57] them too right that's another aspect of it on the

[3:41:00] way side I I I do understand that ... Miller

[3:41:03] will pick up any material the cabinet with material and

[3:41:07] this is one I'm not so sure was construction material

[3:41:10] it's all it's all the carpeting and household stuff yes

[3:41:14] so that should be an issue because obviously with the

[3:41:16] construction material ... the region one except that the estimate

[3:41:19] your recovery say and that creates a whole other challenge

[3:41:22] ... but if that's something that council must pursue we

[3:41:25] can also

[3:41:26] yes so but definitely we get whatever we can do

[3:41:30] as far as operationally to to support the community if

[3:41:32] they're still people in need of you know what this

[3:41:35] collection or or some support and we can do what

[3:41:38] we can with regards to our our current policies I

[3:41:41] guess the best way to describe it is that fair

[3:41:43] okay first

[3:41:46] we contacted Miller

[3:41:49] this week

[3:41:52] in order

[3:41:54] this week he said toggle between

[3:42:00] we'll

[3:42:02] people will even look after that for Houston Miller has

[3:42:05] been really really good I just don't want to burden

[3:42:07] I want to make an expectation across which my wife

[3:42:10] for anybody throw as much garbage as they want to

[3:42:12] factor into this is really just designed for this particular

[3:42:15] area

[3:42:16] the positive thoughts

[3:42:20] as a friend

[3:42:23] our

[3:42:25] okay Bill Clinton permanent

[3:42:29] yeah we've got claims where ... Valerie open and risk

[3:42:33] managements got letters out to the community

[3:42:36] I've seen I've seen at least for the

[3:42:38] yes

[3:42:44] L. three Mister mayor there are claims and claims are

[3:42:47] being processed and I don't have anything else that

[3:42:52] what's what's the difference

[3:42:55] I have to do anything

[3:42:58] we'll help you

[3:43:00] what you do and how you doing it's great can't

[3:43:03] do it right

[3:43:05] his track it back to whoever

[3:43:10] with the

[3:43:16] we actually have this

[3:43:20] okay just just with what we're trying to do is

[3:43:23] make sure everybody's working on something that's so big your

[3:43:27] training

[3:43:29] also

[3:43:31] we're all such

[3:43:33] some say it again memory

[3:43:36] ask questions sure go ahead my next day cancer probably

[3:43:40] at his

[3:43:42] hi I just want to second the motion okay fair

[3:43:45] enough that's good

[3:43:47] thank you

[3:43:48] okay I I'm not quite clear on on what we're

[3:43:52] doing here ... seconds ask questions just make sure I'm

[3:43:56] clear so we're essentially this motion is that we're going

[3:44:00] to be asking staff to determine how to get rid

[3:44:05] of any material from flooded residences that haven't already done

[3:44:09] so I I only know of one person in my

[3:44:12] ward that has had a problem it wasn't because of

[3:44:15] a back up it was probably because of another issue

[3:44:18] that was private but ... their their stuff is long

[3:44:22] since gone in a dumpster because the insurance company would

[3:44:25] pay for that so are we getting the sense that

[3:44:28] there are people out there that are not having that

[3:44:32] cost covered by their insurance companies and that is what

[3:44:36] the reason the need that were responding no I just

[3:44:38] wanna be clear I try to find I have not

[3:44:39] heard this ... so I need to know understand this

[3:44:43] before I can vote so as to you Mister mayor

[3:44:46] commissioner or to legal or to anybody I I don't

[3:44:49] really know

[3:44:51] Hey Mr mayor I I don't know the extent of

[3:44:53] the on street issue Sir I mean we've gone through

[3:44:58] two collection cycles now right so it may be vastly

[3:45:02] cleaned up ... maybe maybe cancer much maybe more where

[3:45:06] what's happening within his work but I'm I'm not here

[3:45:08] I'm not getting I haven't one phone call on this

[3:45:09] matter so so to me it's it's really sort of

[3:45:13] business as usual with regards to

[3:45:15] okay so how long will it take to get a

[3:45:17] report back from staff because I mean clearly if somebody's

[3:45:21] got a pile of rotting garbage for the lot since

[3:45:23] July that or sorry January the eleventh ... and it

[3:45:28] takes a couple more weeks and our help isn't going

[3:45:30] to be helpful

[3:45:33] someone has been done already well that's why I'm asking

[3:45:36] I'm asking what the residual need that we're actually talking

[3:45:39] about and I really don't have enough information at this

[3:45:42] point to help to help me to make the decision

[3:45:44] I understand what counts so much said but ... but

[3:45:47] I'm not getting the same date data back to me

[3:45:50] but that's fine I mean I'm just not aware of

[3:45:54] the issue the issue to the degree that the movers

[3:45:57] so if you can give me any insight on that

[3:46:01] yes certainly certainly yeah so everybody is called me I've

[3:46:04] asked questions when did it happen when you realize what

[3:46:07] you do who's your insurance company ... what has been

[3:46:10] the reaction where you at now the process who contacted

[3:46:14] have you felt any claims as many feedback have you

[3:46:16] talked your claims adjuster yeah yeah yeah it's your question

[3:46:20] is if you have specific sewer

[3:46:24] backup health insurance

[3:46:27] no limit

[3:46:28] they'll come from what most residents did as they contacted

[3:46:31] their insurance company the time it happens soon as they

[3:46:34] realized it

[3:46:35] the if they were clean up themselves ... there they

[3:46:39] then had a flood remediation team come usually within four

[3:46:42] hours of when they call the flood remediation team cut

[3:46:45] the drywall that's not the question inevitably finish let me

[3:46:48] finish ... but but it's not the question I'm asking

[3:46:50] about is you asked me if there was covered and

[3:46:52] I'm giving you an example and get to it that

[3:46:54] be great

[3:46:55] go ahead you don't have to interrupt

[3:46:58] okay so even the stuff came up when the stuff

[3:47:01] when the when the flood remediation people came then they

[3:47:04] cost fifteen thousand dollars on a Saturday and Sunday and

[3:47:09] the pumping the contaminants out of the house for four

[3:47:12] days the claims adjuster would come on Monday and say

[3:47:15] here's a fifteen thousand dollar Mr resident missed residences hold

[3:47:19] on I just have a fifteen thousand dollar flood remediation

[3:47:21] bill they say you get twenty five thousand dollars that's

[3:47:25] it and you'll have to repair all of your everything

[3:47:27] in the basement all your electrical and all your drywall

[3:47:30] and all your lighting and all your appliances and all

[3:47:33] the roads that you're responsible in some of the residents

[3:47:35] are saying we don't have thirty to fifty thousand dollars

[3:47:39] to do that so the answer is what they've done

[3:47:42] is they've been reached out to others including some in

[3:47:44] Richmond hill said are you guys gonna ensure for the

[3:47:47] stuff that came out of the sewer in my house

[3:47:50] that's correct okay so that doesn't answer the question but

[3:47:53] thank you the question I was asking is I I

[3:47:55] I guess I'm looking for is some more detail on

[3:47:58] the extent of this problem I've had one before but

[3:48:01] I think this motion is meant okay but that's right

[3:48:03] and that's fine I have the right with the floor

[3:48:05] at the moment to ask the question if there's some

[3:48:07] insight that staff can give me so I better equipped

[3:48:10] it to make a determination when the time comes on

[3:48:13] this motion so ... is it possible to get an

[3:48:16] idea of the you know the extent of this issue

[3:48:21] given that it was on January eleventh I'm just not

[3:48:24] sure how big a problem we're talking about here

[3:48:30] shares of certain humans to mer ... so I'm I

[3:48:34] have made aware of any anomalies in the waste collection

[3:48:37] tonnages or that we had an override of you know

[3:48:41] request for vehicles and in and more runs to me

[3:48:43] typically when there's a crisis of some nature truck collection

[3:48:47] can be delayed which may result in cost in the

[3:48:49] region saying keep the Murph open if there's all kinds

[3:48:51] of things that can trip up like give me an

[3:48:53] indication of something really different is happening in the system

[3:48:56] that didn't happen on the eleventh or the weeks preceding

[3:48:59] the eleventh so I can ask staff to provide a

[3:49:03] brief report S. okay was there any impact that we

[3:49:05] saw across the city my smite my assumption right now

[3:49:09] is that it's a minimal impact is clearly an area

[3:49:12] within cancer munches war that was impacted by some regional

[3:49:15] capacity

[3:49:17] right now it says here the answer here please

[3:49:21] and and from from ... any other cancers I haven't

[3:49:24] heard any concerns and in each other wards as to

[3:49:26] as to flooding ... nor have I had any calls

[3:49:29] or direct communication from operations or the community as to

[3:49:33] any concerns so so I don't think it's a in

[3:49:35] in a month a month has gone by now so

[3:49:37] if there was additional material it's probably long gone but

[3:49:41] again if there's still some pockets of concern you know

[3:49:44] we'll do we can to okay Levi at the community

[3:49:46] one more question then so ... and as we I

[3:49:50] didn't get a clear answer during this discussion up to

[3:49:53] this point Miller does not pick up large items and

[3:49:58] in like coaches and someone is that right

[3:50:01] is that correct

[3:50:04] through mis read every that's correct in the Clayton collection

[3:50:07] contracts are very specific musical household waste has a very

[3:50:10] specific definition coaches and construction material or gently into that

[3:50:14] are excluded from that definition so can you can you

[3:50:17] surmise then ... if we are able to accommodate the

[3:50:21] collection of waste impacted residents

[3:50:26] I've impacted residents sorry ... do we have the infrastructure

[3:50:30] is in within our contract to actually do that because

[3:50:34] if they're not picking up that type of material at

[3:50:37] the moment there what are the chances of them being

[3:50:39] able to pick it up

[3:50:41] after the case certainly SO three you and I apologize

[3:50:44] these questions are a bit ... I mean the great

[3:50:48] questions are just not prepared with all the information generally

[3:50:51] I can speak to a couple of items construction material

[3:50:54] generally is refused because I know it's not accepted the

[3:50:57] Marfan that's a contaminant right so that one is off

[3:51:00] the table white goods we do have a program that

[3:51:02] will collect white goods in washing machines in those kind

[3:51:04] of voices so those can be arranged we picked up

[3:51:07] if the rest of it is called garbage that shouldn't

[3:51:10] be an issue and there may be some gray area

[3:51:12] in there but I think for all in all with

[3:51:14] what's happened we can probably address most of the concerns

[3:51:19] ... it's just my concern is if people start taking

[3:51:21] apart their basements and bring kinds of studs and drywall

[3:51:25] that's problematic for sure so all right so what I'm

[3:51:29] what I'm hearing that you're hearing is that when you

[3:51:32] get this back you're gonna come back as quickly as

[3:51:34] possible ... with a report as to how we may

[3:51:37] be able to do

[3:51:39] before you actually implement it

[3:51:42] if I made three Miss America all right when I

[3:51:45] read this I don't see an actual action to counsel

[3:51:47] other than a direction to do the best we can

[3:51:50] in the community that's kinda what I'm hearing if that's

[3:51:53] if that's the message

[3:51:55] the report

[3:51:57] as reported by

[3:52:00] okay any other comments on this okay thank you Mr

[3:52:04] mess to you too commissioner

[3:52:08] if if this is done

[3:52:11] it would date it would this be contained within Miller's

[3:52:14] contract obligations to us or is there going to be

[3:52:18] an extra cost to the municipality

[3:52:22] three missed my my my hope and and this is

[3:52:25] it it's a question of tonnage collected right so we

[3:52:28] we paid by the time by by the volume that

[3:52:31] you think it's just deposited the region so that maybe

[3:52:34] the marginal increase or tonnage for that month or for

[3:52:37] the week or two might be marginal again this is

[3:52:39] not a widespread quantity that I see ... I think

[3:52:43] I think in this case and and I've seen this

[3:52:45] happen in my career with managing waste contracts when we

[3:52:48] have an anomaly anomalous event that creates a bit of

[3:52:51] tension in the community it's just really good customer service

[3:52:54] to provide a little extra service for that one or

[3:52:56] two collection peered just to give everyone a sense that

[3:52:59] you know what we we we're here to make sure

[3:53:00] we can do the best we can so to me

[3:53:02] this would be considered part of a normal business ...

[3:53:06] the ice storm was another event where we mean and

[3:53:08] made exemplary efforts to try to kind of minimize impact

[3:53:11] the community so

[3:53:13] now a bigger question might be with climate change and

[3:53:16] you know what the patterns is this can become a

[3:53:18] regular thing that maybe a bigger question to think about

[3:53:20] but you know at the current rate of the events

[3:53:23] it's not unusual for us to provide that service thank

[3:53:26] you very much commission the only other comment I want

[3:53:29] to make is that ... perhaps also and and I'm

[3:53:33] I'm not sure if a city managers already involved in

[3:53:36] this but perhaps risk management chose to be involved in

[3:53:40] this because I know in my south Richfield area when

[3:53:43] we've had problems with with plotting to you too M.

[3:53:46] residences that are on near the creek and with the

[3:53:50] climate change and you know five hundred years storms that

[3:53:53] are no longer five hundred year storms ... that is

[3:53:56] being dealt with by risk management so it it just

[3:53:59] it might be a good idea just to the ace

[3:54:01] as well with that because they there are impacts thank

[3:54:04] you very much

[3:54:06] okay cops have said

[3:54:09] they're out there investigating a person so I don't know

[3:54:12] that there's an answer specifically and that's where I don't

[3:54:15] know that we need to report back

[3:54:18] media leave before they do anything because Miller is actually

[3:54:21] out there doing it all right so and

[3:54:25] yeah I know the venom amazing pretty good

[3:54:29] Sir go ahead

[3:54:31] Mister I just wanted to provide some clarity at Macalester

[3:54:34] much approached me with this idea it one of the

[3:54:39] things that needs the commissioner needs to be cognizant of

[3:54:43] is that a lot of this is just maybe give

[3:54:45] them some extra bag a garbage tags so that they

[3:54:48] can throw out stuff as they find issues with things

[3:54:52] in the basement that were contaminated sites offices could go

[3:54:55] on two or three months if they're one of the

[3:54:58] houses that are identified given that garbage tag for a

[3:55:01] couple of blocks and let's get on with it that's

[3:55:03] what it's all about so let's can we please call

[3:55:05] the vote

[3:55:08] not a chance I'm sorry what does okay yup yup

[3:55:12] all up yeah I I actual plot a councilman to

[3:55:16] moving it forward to help his constituents up maybe your

[3:55:20] response to conserve wesa agree we maybe that's on so

[3:55:24] I just want to be after to create for you

[3:55:25] Mister chair the commission because they're what ways

[3:55:30] I mean how expensive or restrictive all that could be

[3:55:35] I mean ... so ... so perhaps if you're coming

[3:55:39] back the report issues you can I would like to

[3:55:41] see you know if there's any kind of parameters set

[3:55:45] this is what we meant we've been doing something

[3:55:48] just a comment thank you the explanation thanks

[3:55:51] okay all those in favor of posts that carries unanimously

[3:55:57] all right we now are going to

[3:56:02] sorry

[3:56:03] hi ... but yes I'm sorry the file ... sixty

[3:56:06] one through sixty seven

[3:56:12] 67 I mean

[3:56:14] Adam movers second effort by the US

[3:56:18] this

[3:56:19] if you wish cancer west of some favorite polls carried

[3:56:24] thank you both for their

[3:56:28] ... we need to move into closed session and what

[3:56:30] I would like to do ... when we do that

[3:56:33] is go directly to ...

[3:56:37] the

[3:56:39] parkland for

[3:56:41] and then we'll deal with yours

[3:56:43] so

[3:56:45] moving into there we go

[3:56:48] resolution to move into closed session

[3:56:52] and we're heading out we're on a run

[3:56:58] S.

[3:57:00] visitor receive advice that is subject to solicitor client privilege

[3:57:05] including communications necessary for that purpose and litigation and or

[3:57:08] potential litigation including matters before administrative tribunals affecting the municipality

[3:57:15] or the local board with respect to payment of park

[3:57:19] land cash in lieu section two three nine two half

[3:57:22] empty miss black two thousand and one and the second

[3:57:27] item that will be there's personal matter with identifiable individual

[3:57:30] pertaining to staff member again once this plaque and a

[3:57:34] time sensitive matter so with that kind of a motion

[3:57:37] for

[3:57:39] okay we have conflict

[3:57:41] and second castle burgers thank you

[3:57:46] all those in favor okay we are now going to

[3:57:52] close session

[3:57:54] okay all righty persons gobbled up

[6:04:16] thanks for

[6:04:17] 230 yesterday

[6:04:19] please hold no problem

[6:04:22] you know one of

[6:04:25] okay

[6:04:29] Mr America yeah

[6:04:31] okay we are now going into ... reconvene the open

[6:04:35] session we have a mover and a second ... all

[6:04:37] those in favor of

[6:04:39] grooving to the open session

[6:04:42] post character in your possession ... there is no recommendations

[6:04:46] arising from the closed session meeting

[6:04:50] ... that we was just finished so there's nothing to

[6:04:53] report out so therefore we have to by law to

[6:04:55] confirm the proceedings of counsel at this meeting the second

[6:05:00] ... for that please

[6:05:02] we were second

[6:05:04] Hey kids so all of a sudden rally

[6:05:09] all those in favor coach Terry Rozier

[6:05:14] with a single second here all of their clothes

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