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[5:25]
It's a clock. We'll call the meeting to
order.
[5:30]
» Steve, would you uh do the pledge of
allegiance for us?
[5:40]
I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
[5:52]
justice for all.
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» Okay, roll call.
George Salin here.
[6:03]
» Deborah Vaness here. David Collins,
>> Jeff Au
[6:08]
» here,
>> Steven Ber
[6:09]
» here,
>> Lori Bennell
[6:11]
» here.
>> Okay, this is time for uh public
[6:15]
comment. Uh this time is afforded to the
public to address any matter that's not
[6:19]
on the agenda. Limit of 5 minutes and 30
minutes total.
[6:24]
Is there any public comment?
[6:30]
Okay. Any questions, comments,
corrections to the October minutes?
[6:38]
» Make a motion that we approve them.
>> Second.
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Okay, the motion is accepted. Five to
zero.
[7:01]
I'll explain the meeting procedure for
tonight. Um I will announce the agenda
[7:05]
item that we have. Uh staff Mr. Zittoart
will uh describe the project and the
[7:12]
staff report and any staff
recommendations. Uh I will open this
[7:18]
discussion uh with the commission. Uh, I
will allow for public hearing and inform
[7:22]
the audience that those wishing that to
speak on the item are to approach the
[7:25]
podium and state their name and address.
That includes the applicant's testimony,
[7:30]
the proponent's testimony and including
any written testimony as well as theo
[7:34]
opponent's testimony in which time the
applicant will have a chance to rebut
[7:38]
any questions, concerns.
Uh I will then close the public hearing
[7:43]
and we will discuss the further the item
further and at that point uh public
[7:49]
testimony will not be taken except for
if we have additional questions for
[7:53]
myself or the commission. The planning
commission will then act upon the item
[7:57]
and after which um I will inform the
audience which is you of the vote. Uh
[8:03]
you do have a right to appeal and there
is a fee for that and make sure that you
[8:07]
sign in uh in the registration in the
back.
[8:12]
Okay. So, we our first item is and our
only item is the public hearing for the
[8:18]
general plan amendment use and amendment
and the reszoning for 1408 and 1444 West
[8:24]
Main Street. Kim, what do you have for
us?
[8:26]
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman, fellow
commissioners. At this point, I'd like
[8:30]
to introduce the staff report into
record. Um so tonight I'll be presenting
[8:35]
uh the proposed general plan amendment
and reszone for the properties located
[8:39]
at 1408 and 1444 West Main Street. Uh
the requested to change the zoning for
[8:45]
professional office for uh uh two
community commercial to allow the
[8:50]
establishment of a small animal
veterinary hospital within a portion of
[8:54]
the building uh located at 1444 West
Main Street.
[8:59]
Uh the two buildings on these parcels
total just over 15,500 square feet u of
[9:05]
commercial or office space.
[clears throat] The building at 1408 um
[9:10]
contains five suites and totals about
8,400 square ft. And the building at
[9:16]
1444 West Main Street contains four
suites in total uh just a little bit
[9:21]
over 7,000 square ft. The applicant
proposes to uh place a 4,300 foot uh
[9:27]
small animal clinic within suites C and
D of the the building located at 1444
[9:34]
uh West Main Street. Under the current
uh professional zoning, uh veterinary
[9:39]
hospitals are not permitted. Um by
contrast though, the community
[9:43]
commercial district uh allows veterinary
uses while still allowing general office
[9:48]
uses as well. Uh because of this, the C2
zone is more flexible and better aligned
[9:53]
with the mix of commercial and services
along um the west main corridor.
[10:00]
Um why is a reszone appropriate in in
this instance? There are a few reasons
[10:04]
here that I've noted. Uh first, the C2
designation would allow the proposed
[10:09]
small animal hospital uh which is
currently not permitted in the PO uh
[10:13]
professional office district.
Uh second, the uh C2 zoning, the
[10:19]
community commercial zoning maintains
flexibility. Um a even after reszoning
[10:23]
the properties
um many of the properties may continue
[10:27]
to operate as professional offices or
medical offices which are currently in
[10:31]
those locations. The reason simply
broadens the range of allowable
[10:35]
businesses um providing more
opportunities for both current and
[10:38]
future tenants. [clears throat] And
third, uh the change is consistent with
[10:43]
the surrounding land use. Uh the
properties along West Main Street and a
[10:47]
few along Robert Avenue just at the
beginning there adjacent to West Main
[10:52]
already include commercial and medium to
highdensity residential uses. Uh this
[10:57]
resoning brings these two parcels into
alignment with the existing land use
[11:01]
pattern and helps strengthen the
corridor cohesion.
[11:05]
And then finally, the reason supports
the city's economic development goals by
[11:09]
encouraging investment, diver
diversifying services and expanding
[11:14]
community serving uses uh along this
important commercial corridor.
[11:20]
Um we did evaluate the parking uh staff
did uh look at the parking and traffic
[11:24]
implications of the pro proposed
reszone. Uh across both parcels there is
[11:29]
a uh 67 existing parking spaces
uh which exceeds kind of the most
[11:34]
conservative commercial requirement
which would be about 62 spaces uh for
[11:38]
the comi for the combined square
footages of the building. Uh the
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veterinary clinic itself is expected to
require about 17 to 19 spaces depending
[11:47]
on staffing levels. Uh the remaining
suites on both properties will continue
[11:52]
to operate as low inensity office uses
at this time. Um, however, they could uh
[11:59]
obviously change uses in the future at
which at which point staff would
[12:02]
re-evaluate the parking situation and uh
we could either approve or deny business
[12:07]
licenses um based on parking generation
issues that might arise. So based on
[12:14]
this staff concludes that the parking is
adequate under the proposed zoning. Uh,
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regarding traffic, while commercial uses
can generate higher trip counts in
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professional offices, uh, the roadway ne
network along West Main Street uh, is
[12:28]
designed to accommodate commercial um,
volumes of traffic. Uh, the small animal
[12:33]
clinic generates moderate trip levels
uh, prim primarily through scheduled
[12:37]
appointments. Staff does not anticipate
any significant traffic impacts as a
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result of the reszone.
Um, the proposed reszone is consistent
[12:46]
with the city's general plan. Uh we did
uh research that and uh and vetted that
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out uh which designates this corridor uh
the West Main Street corridor for mixed
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commercial uses intended to serve both
neighborhood and community needs. Uh the
[13:02]
project supports the general plan goals
related to land use efficiency, corridor
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revitalization,
service a availability and circulation.
[13:11]
Um there are two primary conditions of
approval associated with the project
[13:15]
that were listed in your staff report.
Um, one would be that any interior
[13:19]
improvements to the building would
require um to we would require building
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permits uh through the building
department here. And secondly, the
[13:28]
property at 1444 West Main Street will
be required to install a new uh trash
[13:34]
enclosure consistent with the city's
design standards. Um, currently 1408 and
[13:41]
1444 share trash enclosure. Um, so this
would just be aligning 1444 to to bring
[13:47]
it up to current standards uh for
commercial re for commercial design
[13:51]
guidelines.
Um, there is a couple staff
[13:55]
recommendations in the staff report
there for you this evening. And um, at
[13:59]
this point, uh, Mr. Chairman, I'll turn
it back over to you and I'd be happy to
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try to answer any questions if you have
any.
[14:06]
» Any questions, comments?
>> Uh, yes. Can I have a couple questions?
[14:10]
So, so does the applicant own both of
those buildings?
[14:14]
» So, the applicant is actually proposing
to purchase the building at 1444 and is
[14:19]
applied. But, so as as a matter of
consistency, we did approach the
[14:23]
building at 1408, the property owners
there to see if they would be wanting to
[14:27]
reszone that building as well. So,
there's not commercial zoning in the
[14:31]
middle of professional office zoning.
Currently, the building located on the
[14:35]
corner of of Robert and um West Main
Street. So the building furthest east is
[14:42]
already zoned uh commercial and then the
last two buildings 1408 and this 1444
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were zoned or professional office at
this time.
[14:51]
» Okay.
>> So that'd be converting making sure
[14:53]
those all are consistent.
>> Okay.
[14:55]
» Cross.
>> Okay. So when when you approach the
[14:58]
owner of the other building are are do
they want that?
[15:01]
» Yeah they were
>> they want that change as well.
[15:04]
» They were fine with that.
>> Okay. Okay. Um and then my other
[15:06]
question is about parking. Um I'm trying
to um visualize if there is parking
[15:13]
other than in the parking lot. For
example,
[15:17]
you know, we we had business offices and
stuff and we required our staff to park
[15:23]
on off- streetet parking so that our
parking lot was free for tenants or for
[15:28]
um customers. Is there off- streetet
parking
[15:32]
on that's not really
>> there's only on there's only off-site
[15:36]
on-site parking. I mean, there's no
offsite along Main Street. Um, there is
[15:40]
some along Robert Avenue as you get
turned around that corner and but you're
[15:43]
starting to head into residential areas
over there. So,
[15:46]
» um,
>> not any in Rox on Roxy either there for
[15:50]
staff to park.
>> The parking requirements for
[15:52]
professional office and a lot of your
retail are about the same requirements.
[15:56]
It's only when you get into say like
restaurant uses and such where the
[16:00]
parking requirements go way up.
>> Okay. So I say again we would be reass
[16:04]
we would be assessing businesses as they
come forward if trying to get a business
[16:08]
license to see if they are going to be
causing any traffic impacts or parking
[16:11]
impacts in there and the city can deny a
building permit or business license
[16:16]
because of that.
>> Okay. So then and I just want to re
[16:20]
revisit
again what you said about the buildings.
[16:23]
So if we were to switch this then all
the buildings along there would be would
[16:27]
all be the same.
>> Correct.
[16:29]
» Okay.
>> Yes. So currently right now the like I
[16:32]
said the buildings on the both buildings
on the corner of Robert Maine. So I
[16:35]
think the one building is uh for Muan
the CPA offices there that's actually
[16:41]
zoned commercial um as as well as the
building across the street there which
[16:45]
has the dentist office and friend salon
and such in there. They they that's a
[16:50]
zoned commercial as well.
>> Okay. uh assist those last two buildings
[16:53]
that are zoned professional office
>> professional office and um I'm assuming
[16:59]
we have plenty of professional office
space in Ripen I
[17:03]
» uh we do have I mean there is quite a
bit of professional office however you
[17:07]
know with commercial zoning it doesn't
preclude that we do have a lot of
[17:11]
professional offices that are located in
uh commercial zones um as well as just
[17:15]
office zones itself too so
>> right okay thank you Mhm.
[17:21]
» And you just made a comment. Um
Deb asked about um
[17:28]
the availability of professional
offices. Um what is demand like right
[17:33]
now in or or can you speak to that even
what demand is like and have we had any
[17:38]
shortfall there?
>> Um I'm not 100% certain on that. I could
[17:42]
probably get some numbers as as far as
how much property or land is zone
[17:46]
professional office versus commercial.
Why would I'd have to research that and
[17:50]
get that information back to you. Um I
don't have that off off top of my head.
[17:54]
Um but we we don't really track as far
as in city hall here if there's a what
[18:00]
the demand and stuff is for that. Um
typically the market kind of washes that
[18:04]
out. Um you know we do have professional
office located kind of at the end of
[18:09]
Wilma here. That whole um
complex down here towards the end right
[18:14]
by the roundabout. Um, there's office
space that's in downtown which is also
[18:19]
it's all zoned commercial down there.
So, there's a lot of office space down
[18:23]
there. As far as the vacancies though, I
I wouldn't be able to speak to that.
[18:29]
» Can you speak to uh any variance between
cost per square foot of professional
[18:35]
office space and commercial?
Typically, this is just typically what
[18:41]
we've seen in the past is that um
commercial does yield a little bit
[18:44]
higher um per square foot pricing. Um if
if it takes a while for the uses to kind
[18:52]
of get that switched over, but you know,
uh like a restaurant stuff would
[18:56]
typically pay more per square foot than
a than an office use would.
[19:00]
» That's what my research has shown as
well. I'm curious as to if this is uh
[19:06]
this could potentially squeeze out
professional office um you know
[19:11]
occupants in you know in le of a higher
rent payer for um commercial office
[19:18]
space or commercial space itself and is
that something that we need to be
[19:22]
concerned about as a city?
>> That's some yeah that it's definitely
[19:26]
one of the cons on the pros and cons of
this. Uh there could be some higher
[19:31]
rates being paid for office space or
competition for that.
[19:35]
» Do you know if the if the space where
the um veterinary office wants to go in
[19:41]
is currently occupied or is it
unoccupied?
[19:44]
» I believe it's currently occupied. The
applicant might be able to speak to that
[19:47]
a little bit better.
[19:51]
» We you know we did just approve that
project down on Main Street that's
[19:54]
professional offices too.
>> I think there's six suites there.
[20:01]
And my question is um regarding the
trash the the suite own or leis in 1444
[20:10]
they do have their own green and black
cans. They do not use the trash um large
[20:16]
bin at 1408.
Will they be required to put in a large
[20:21]
bin? And I guess if the answer is yes,
where do they put that and will that use
[20:25]
parking spaces?
>> Yeah. Um, they will be required, it is a
[20:29]
condition, they will be required to put
a trash enclosure in and it most likely
[20:33]
would probably affect at least two
parking spaces in the whole area there.
[20:40]
Uh, they have not proposed a location
yet for it, but um, yeah, they I mean
[20:44]
there's really not a spot to put it
without affecting at least one or two
[20:47]
spaces. Yeah.
[20:54]
Marin Hospital. Is it going to be a
24-hour hospital or normal business
[20:59]
hours?
>> Uh, normal business hours. Any any
[21:02]
business uh seeking to operate between
the hours of of midnight and um 6:00
[21:06]
a.m. I believe it is or 5:00 a.m. has to
do a use permit. So, um they have not
[21:11]
applied for a use permit to operate
those hours, but certainly the applicant
[21:15]
might be able to answer that certainly
for you.
[21:28]
We will open the public hearing. Uh is
the applicant here would wish to provide
[21:32]
testimony?
If you do, please come up to the
[21:36]
microphone up here and state your name
and your address, please.
[21:51]
Okay. My name is Mandep Kurum. Calling
for regarding 1444 West Main Street. C
[21:56]
» could you spell your name for me? I'm
sorry.
[21:58]
» Mandep M an A D E P. Last name spelled
Gu U RM.
[22:06]
» Thank you.
[22:09]
Any question? I mean, what was I'm
sorry.
[22:13]
» Uh, sure. I I have a couple questions.
So, you're you currently do not own the
[22:17]
building?
>> I do not. Okay. It's in it's in escro
[22:20]
right now.
>> Okay. So, um is the building occupied
[22:23]
right now?
>> It is.
[22:25]
» Okay. So, you'll be requiring the
current tenants to leave so you can move
[22:29]
your business in there.
>> Yeah. They don't have long-term leases.
[22:32]
» Okay. Okay. So, that's And do you
currently own a a veterary business
[22:36]
someplace else?
>> I do.
[22:38]
» And and are you going are you relocating
or are you adding or what what what's
[22:42]
your business plan?
>> It's additional location.
[22:46]
» Okay. Okay. Where's your current
business located? in Stockton. Okay. And
[22:50]
do you live here in Ripen?
>> I do not.
[22:52]
» Okay.
>> But planning to.
[22:54]
» It's my city.
>> Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, let's see.
[23:02]
I think that's all the questions I have.
Oh, the hours of operation. What are you
[23:05]
What are you planning for your hours of
operation?
[23:08]
» We're planning to open to, you know,
probably until 700 p.m. 6 7 a.m. to 7:00
[23:13]
p.m.
>> Okay.
[23:17]
That's all the questions I have at this
time.
[23:23]
» That you are going to um actively market
for more commercial use in the building?
[23:34]
» Probably not because I will keep the
same tenants whoever there. They barely,
[23:38]
as far as I know, the building was empty
for so long and they barely got tenants
[23:43]
and they're all brand new leases except
for the chiropractor,
[23:47]
which where we going to be.
>> That last statement
[23:51]
» that that's the uh I think it's a suite
D, C, and D. Okay,
[23:55]
» that's where we're trying to be. Those
are like they're the one who've been
[23:58]
there from
>> for a year or so. The rest of the
[24:01]
tenants are all brand new location. I
mean, brand new leases.
[24:04]
» Okay.
[24:09]
How many employees do you anticipate?
>> Anywhere from four to six at a time.
[24:24]
» Yes.
[24:37]
Just a question you about
[clears throat] the uh given it's going
[24:42]
to be a C2
uh commercial zoning and Ken stated that
[24:47]
that price would be higher for leases.
Is it your um strategy, business
[24:53]
strategy to increase those lease rates
as they expire or keep them the same or
[24:59]
nominal increases based on inflation?
>> Keep them same so we can keep it
[25:04]
occupied.
[25:10]
» And my last question would be, do you
intend to comply with the approval of
[25:15]
the zoning requirements should they be
approved?
[25:18]
» Yes. Sure.
[25:22]
» Do your hospital, your veterinary
hospitals generate a lot of garbage? No.
[25:27]
» This seems to be a bit of a issue we
were talking about with the enclosure
[25:31]
and adding
>> taking away parking space and everything
[25:34]
else. Does it generate
>> very minimum?
[25:39]
Right now, the place we have is open
seven days a week in Stockton and we
[25:43]
don't even use a we only use the small
cans only. So they don't even require us
[25:49]
to have a big ones
[26:01]
possible
because town needs it right now. Ripen
[26:07]
there's only one clinic in town and uh
we are seeing so many clients out there
[26:13]
and as far as I know they're running two
to three weeks behind for the
[26:17]
appointment.
>> Does that come to you in Stockton?
[26:21]
» Yes, we do.
>> So there is a demand.
[26:24]
» There is a big demand just like I said
they're running three weeks behind as
[26:27]
far as I know because I have called and
check on before we pick this town how
[26:33]
soon they can get appointment.
[26:38]
You know, pets are very important to a
lot of people.
[26:42]
» I don't have any myself, but [laughter]
>> No, I'm just like just like I said,
[26:46]
we're
like in Stockton, you can get a same day
[26:50]
appointment and RIP is just like I said,
three two to three weeks minimum no
[26:54]
matter what kind of emergency you have.
So either they have to go to Modesto or
[26:59]
Stockton.
[27:07]
question.
[27:11]
» Okay, Mr. G, thank you. Appreciate it.
>> Is there anyone that's a proponent of
[27:15]
this would like to come up and speak?
>> Are there any opponents?
[27:22]
» Okay,
we will close the public hearing and are
[27:26]
there any questions, comments from the
commission?
[27:30]
» Just comments. I like I think the
the addition of a veterinary clinic
[27:36]
would be great as Mr. Gro has said if
there's demand for it. I like that idea.
[27:40]
what my reservations are as regard to
pushing out and I know Debb you just um
[27:47]
talked about uh the other space that we
have recently approved and that's a
[27:52]
positive um but I just would hate to see
other professional offices pushed out or
[27:59]
their rates increased significantly
because a retail space can afford it
[28:04]
more than a professional office might be
able to. Uh that's one of my concerns
[28:09]
and the other is just this in incredible
list of other possibilities um that
[28:14]
could go into the spot once we open up a
bit of a can of worms. Um it's a pretty
[28:21]
significant list.
I don't know that uh like an auto repair
[28:26]
shop it seems highly unlikely. And
actually the veterinary clinic seems
[28:30]
like it would be a really good fit. Um
but some of these others not so much in
[28:36]
my opinion.
Maybe somebody can talk me out of that
[28:40]
position because I do like the idea.
>> I think that's one of the reasons why I
[28:46]
asked the questions about what's there
already there. So these other buildings
[28:50]
already are C2. They're and they're
right next to them. So why why wouldn't
[28:55]
we want everything else? Why wouldn't we
want it to be consistent if for
[28:58]
everybody to be um on the same page as
far as what what can go in there? And I
[29:03]
know our our city
I know Ken will look at when people come
[29:07]
with an application, he's going to look
at whether or not it's fitting. Like
[29:11]
there's probably not going to be any
auto repair shops there, I would think.
[29:14]
Um and then to speak to the the concerns
about cost and you know, professional
[29:21]
offices don't get as much rent as as
commercial. Um that's not our job for
[29:27]
the planning commission. It's it's not
up to us to determine the the rents and
[29:32]
and what you know you you just need to
let whatever is happening happen and and
[29:37]
as a landlord of a commercial building
you have a lot of expenses. So I
[29:41]
understand that you got to you got to
you know meet your expenses. So you need
[29:45]
to charge what you need to charge in
order to maintain the building for your
[29:49]
tenants. So I don't think that we as a
planning commission can control what you
[29:54]
know the amount of money they're
charging. Well, I certainly wouldn't be
[29:56]
interested in trying to set rents for
somebody, but this is our decision.
[29:59]
» Yeah.
>> As to which way that building should be
[30:02]
zoned.
>> Yeah.
[30:04]
» Yeah. It sets forth in motion and a
change of zoning who's going to be the
[30:10]
who's going to lease the property and
that changes traffic. That changes
[30:14]
everything. So, I think it to me it
boils down to is this reasonzoning going
[30:19]
to affect um all those areas of traffic
and u noise and all the other things.
[30:26]
But, but to your point, uh Deb, I think
it's I think it's you're right to say
[30:30]
that there's already C2 in the area. So,
why would we not make that more
[30:35]
consistent? Makes that does make a lot
of sense.
[30:41]
And and thankfully Main Street is wide
enough that so if you look at the the
[30:46]
people across the street, I don't I
don't think this is going to affect
[30:48]
them.
[30:52]
» Your analysis states that the parking
isn't a significant issue. And so let me
[30:59]
go backwards. You said that you didn't
think traffic was a big issue and that
[31:04]
was largely based on the kind of
business that's going in currently as a
[31:10]
veterinary clinic. However, if all of
that space eventually does become
[31:14]
commercially occupied,
uh what does that picture look like?
[31:19]
Sounds like from a parking standpoint,
you guys have have said it's okay. From
[31:23]
a traffic standpoint, was that looked at
as well in some way?
[31:27]
» Yeah, that was looked at. Um you it was
kind of outlined in the in the staff
[31:31]
report a little bit. Um you know
commercial does have a
[31:36]
h it does come more traffic with
commercial uses obviously it can and so
[31:42]
that was kind of what was looked at in
the in the staff report. Um it did up
[31:46]
the daily trips. Um however the site is
designed appropriately enough to handle
[31:51]
the increase but it would be an increase
if if the a lot of the businesses
[31:55]
changed over in there.
I don't know the age of that building. I
[31:59]
assume it's sprinklered.
>> Um it's yeah should be sprinklered. I
[32:05]
not 100% certain on that, but it it
should be sprinkler. Anything over 5,000
[32:09]
square feet would be sprinklered. So
[32:14]
» So right now
>> in that space though is a chiropractor's
[32:17]
office, right?
>> Correct.
[32:19]
» Okay. I can't imagine that a veterary
clinic is going to have more visits than
[32:23]
a chiropractor.
[32:28]
you know, they they run those people
through every 15 minutes.
[32:33]
» So, the comment that I have as a as a
pet owner and going to Rip and Vet is
[32:38]
they aren't taking any new pets and you
can always find a parking spot on Main
[32:44]
Street, which as we know is very
congested uh with businesses that u have
[32:49]
normal business hours. So I I would say
that I can't imagine there be a parking
[32:54]
impact of significance at least from
what I can tell
[32:58]
» on this end right
>> work on the other end and it can be
[33:03]
miserable if you give up your parking
spot near the lunch hour and then come
[33:07]
back it can be really difficult
sometimes but that's specific to that
[33:11]
time of day and completely different end
of the end of the street. So,
[33:16]
» I have one more quick question, is um
would additional lighting be needed?
[33:22]
» No. Um the police departments reviewed
the project and they didn't have any
[33:26]
additional conditions beyond that. So,
>> okay.
[33:30]
» Yeah.
[33:38]
» So, there's I noticed there's there are
two two recommendations. So they they go
[33:44]
together or we could do them or or we
could do one or
[33:48]
» they go together. One's did one's
dealing with the environmental and the
[33:52]
second recommendation is so you are
>> agreeing that the environmental it is a
[33:57]
um exempt categorically exempt from SQA
and also you're recommending that city
[34:02]
council approve or deny whatever you
guys decide uh the proposed general plan
[34:09]
use amendment and reszone. So, so, so we
so we make a recommendation and then it
[34:14]
goes to the city council and then they
decide if it's correct. Okay.
[34:20]
» Well, unless there's other discussion.
>> Okay.
[34:25]
» Again, it does say even not that this
would happen here, but a gas station
[34:30]
is permitted and it's not highlighted
for a conditional use permit.
[34:36]
Is that
>> Yeah. I mean, you can't look at this
[34:40]
list of uses and think all of them are
going to go in there. There's like just
[34:44]
a question. No. Yeah. But they are those
are allowed uses in the C2 zone. So, a
[34:49]
gas station could locate in the C2 zone.
So, it
[34:53]
» you're more than likely
>> tearing the whole building down and
[34:56]
trying to redevelop the site to the gas
station, which brings a whole host of
[34:59]
other things that would come back in
front of the planning commission at that
[35:01]
point. So,
>> more serious than just a
[35:03]
» condition. So, but there is uses that
could go locate into a suite over there
[35:08]
that would just come through through a
staff level. And those are the ones that
[35:11]
we evaluate the parking um and stuff
that at a staff level to look at if
[35:16]
we're [clears throat] going to issue a
business license on that or not, if it
[35:19]
needs to go through a minor site plan or
a major site plan. So, uh any change of
[35:24]
use is kind of at the discretion of the
director to either handle that at a
[35:27]
staff level or bring it to the
commission if it's significant enough.
[35:31]
» Okay. Thanks. One last question that
just came to mind that I was thinking
[35:36]
about earlier. Um, the professional
office zoning, the PO office zoning
[35:40]
allows for medical offices, obviously,
chiropractors, whatever. Is animal
[35:43]
husbandry excluded from that? It is.
It's I mean, it's not it's not allowed
[35:49]
in in professional office districts in
in our community and and it's kind of
[35:53]
the same across a lot of communities. I
did some of the research on that and
[35:56]
most most surrounding communities here
uh do not allow veterinary clinics in
[36:02]
professional office use areas. Got it.
>> Thank you.
[36:06]
Any other questions?
Do we have a motion?
[36:12]
» Sure. I'll make a motion um that we find
that the pro proposed project is
[36:18]
category exempt from the SQUA and then
also that we recommend that the city
[36:23]
council approve the proposed general
plan land use amendment and reszoned
[36:28]
from professional office to community
commercial for the subject properties
[36:33]
located at 1408 and 1444 West Main
Street subject to the conditions and
[36:39]
approval contained in the staff report.
[36:46]
» We have a second.
[37:04]
» Okay, the motion has been adopted five
to zero. Congratulations and thank you
[37:09]
for investing in Ripen. Appreciate it.
[37:14]
» Make those pet owners happy.
[laughter]
[37:19]
» Good.
>> Thank you.
[37:22]
» You're welcome to stay if you want to
hang out, but you don't have to.
[37:30]
» Okay, this meeting is adjourned. Thank
you.
[37:32]
» Wait, wait, wait, wait. We have reports.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Staff reports. Nope.
[37:36]
Excuse me. No worries. Um, yeah, just
really quick. Uh we do not have anything
[37:40]
scheduled at this point for the December
meeting. Um we possibly could have um an
[37:46]
accessory dwelling unit ordinance
amendment in front of you guys. Uh
[37:50]
there's I think Tommy's taking a look at
it right now, but there's quite a bit to
[37:54]
it. So I'm not sure if we'll make that
meeting or not, but uh that's coming
[37:57]
either December or January.
>> Just wait. The state will make some new
[38:01]
rules.
>> We can just we can just wait a couple
[38:04]
Yeah, let's just wait.
>> Yeah. Well, it's like every January we
[38:08]
deal with a few more laws and and we got
to update it. So, I think it's going to
[38:11]
be a yearly thing from now on, but
[laughter]
[38:13]
» yeah.
>> So, that's all we have at this point.
[38:16]
» Okay. Tommy, do you have a report for
us?
[38:21]
» Okay.
All right. Thank you for your time. This
[38:24]
meeting is journed.