Rockland School Committee - September 8, 2026

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[0:05] Good evening and welcome to the school committee meeting of Tuesday, September
[0:08] 8th. Um we'll move on to a moment of silence for um a former teacher and
[0:16] baseball coach um Fred Brown. He gave decades of contributions to families and
[0:22] students of Rockland. So we'll just have a couple of seconds for Mr. Brown.
[0:35] Thank you. And we appreciate all of his contributions to us over the years. Um,
[0:40] we'll move on to the pledge of allegiance.
[0:44] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
[0:49] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:54] justice for all.
[1:00] Oh, my chair tipped. Um, with nothing under audience, we'll move on to old
[1:06] business with teaching and learning update with Jen.
[1:10] » Sure. Thank you so much. So, it will be quick, but I think uh I think you'll be
[1:14] pleased and everyone that's watching at home will be pleased as well to see we
[1:18] have kicked off the year with some uh important professional development
[1:22] opportunities. Overall for the district, we have been focusing on for general
[1:27] education and our par profofessionals u the multi-tered system of supports. So
[1:32] that's really looking at what do we need to do at tier one what's happening right
[1:36] within the classroom each and every day tier tier two for some of our kiddos
[1:40] that might need a little bit of extra support and then tier three for some
[1:44] extensive support that might be needed. So, we've started off by talking about
[1:48] that and we have it scheduled out throughout the year for different
[1:51] opportunities. Uh, special education, all of our special education staff came
[1:56] together, our teaching staff and our rel related service providers to work with
[2:01] um Alan Bloom is the gentleman's name and uh Mr. Plume has a whole methodology
[2:08] to create goals and benchmark for our benchmarks for our IEPs that really will
[2:14] help streamline the process and really help us dig in deeper making sure that
[2:18] we have the data that's needed to look at are we achieving those goals and the
[2:22] benchmarks within a period of time that we want to be successful with. Do we
[2:25] need to tweak things? And that also has been spread out through the entire year
[2:29] and he will be coming back for some follow-up professional development. And
[2:33] then paraprofessionals and our mobile RV van drivers, we have decided that they
[2:38] are going to be working together um on a professional development module on
[2:43] attention deficit hyperactivity disorders um and supporting students
[2:48] varied varied needs that may fall within that um that area of ADHD. And then when
[2:55] we look at the different things that are happening across our buildings, I'm not
[2:58] going to read each one, but it's a recap of all the different grants and the
[3:01] spectacular happening happenings that you uh we talked about a little bit last
[3:05] time. And just to follow up again that you can see
[3:08] » prek all the way up to high school, postgrad. There are exciting things
[3:13] happening for teaching and learning across the district and a lot to be
[3:16] really proud of. a lot of staff effort has gone into gaining and being awarded
[3:22] these different grants and these different initiatives that we're working
[3:25] on and that is something that will happen um and be continue to be
[3:29] addressed throughout the school year. And basically the big thing, the most
[3:33] important thing to share out is that on September 2nd, u all of our students,
[3:38] not in our early education program, they're coming very soon tomorrow, but
[3:42] all of our um kiddos that are in grades uh one and beyond, they came on
[3:48] September 2nd and they were happy. >> They were excited to be here. If you
[3:52] were down at Phelps in that area at all, the music was blasting. Uh kids were
[3:57] dancing, staff were dancing, everyone was happy as could be. We then went our,
[4:01] you know, up the road a little bit to the middle school and the high school.
[4:04] Um, everyone really was happy about coming back to school. I had shared with
[4:10] Superintendent Hacket that I was behind a couple of students that were
[4:15] complimenting each other's outfits and how excited they were to be back. Um,
[4:19] and they I mean didn't know that I was hearing this, but it was just really
[4:23] nice to see, >> right? And first and foremost, they were
[4:27] happy, they seemed healthy, and our staff was there to support them on that
[4:32] first day. And I think uh making our students and our staff feel as though
[4:37] they belong is the foundation that we really want to achieve and develop on,
[4:42] right? >> And I think all of our staff was
[4:43] successful doing that. >> Excellent.
[4:46] » Great. Any questions on anything? Well, I'd love to know what the high
[4:52] dosage tutoring is, but we don't have to go into that now if you want. I I think
[4:56] it's it's interesting. Uh just looking I I feel like some of these we definitely
[5:00] have heard of the the literacy grant and the innovation pathways and the dual
[5:04] enrollment, but that high dosage tutoring caught my eye. So, at at the at
[5:08] Phelps Elementary, um they as a team, this district, the school bu district,
[5:13] and the building applied for a grant to provide intensive tutoring to some of
[5:18] our students that may be at risk for um literacy needs. And the Department of Ed
[5:24] awarded us this grant. And it doesn't uh it doesn't come with a dollar figure,
[5:28] per se. It comes with staff that will come out and do intensive tutoring with
[5:34] the kids on top of what they're already getting from our own staff. Okay.
[5:39] » Uh Kelsey Hullbrook uh was really a proponent behind getting this off the
[5:44] ground. We had this last year as well. So this is a continuation and something
[5:50] that we saw great success with last year. Um, and I can also share some more
[5:53] information with you as we move forward, just um, how many kids are
[5:57] participating, how often they're getting the services as we go along in our next
[6:01] teaching and learning update if that's helpful.
[6:03] » Yeah. No, that would be great just um, hearing, you know, all these different
[6:07] opportunities and supports that are out there is really great to especially at
[6:11] that age when they they might need it. So,
[6:14] » absolutely, the earlier we can really identify this and work on this, the
[6:18] better. >> Awesome.
[6:22] Thank you. >> Sure.
[6:23] » Nope. That's it. >> All right. Thank you very much. Great
[6:26] update. Great first update for teaching and learning.
[6:31] » Thank you. Thank you very much.
[6:35] » We'll move on to new business budget calendars. We'll pass this now to
[6:40] Katie. You're just sharing the whole table over there.
[6:43] » Welcome Katie to your first school committee meeting. I'm sorry to have
[6:47] missed the first meeting of the year, but I'm happy to be here now. Um, so
[6:52] we're going to be reviewing the district's budget calendar tonight. And
[6:57] I'm trying to share my screen. I don't not sure if it's Give it one second. See
[7:04] if that pops out of the booth. We are very spoiled here that we are on site at
[7:08] WRPS. We have >> the HMDI is not working.
[7:11] » I'm not sure if it's computer.
[7:16] Okay, >> it's all right.
[7:18] » So, I think there's a copy of the budget calendar in each one of your packets and
[7:23] we can um make a point to distribute it um to the larger community after the
[7:30] meeting is over and I apologize for not being able to share it. I think it would
[7:34] be >> technology happens
[7:35] » helpful to see it, but that's okay for tonight.
[7:38] » You have what you need though on your screen?
[7:40] » I do. Yes. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Don't worry. technology
[7:44] happens. >> Jane and I can vouch for you.
[7:46] » It is a fabulous thing >> and it's something that everyone can
[7:49] look forward to seeing.
[7:55] » So the budget calendar, a few important points before we go through some of the
[8:00] details in the budget calendar that I just wanted to make sure everyone was
[8:05] aware of um is that the budget calendar is a draft and that it is subject to
[8:11] change. Um the budget calendar is organized
[8:15] pretty much by season. So we talk about some of the work that was completed over
[8:19] the summer months. We talk about what will happen currently in the fall
[8:24] months. Um some of the work as it continues through the winter and then um
[8:28] some of the closeout work that will happen over the spring. A lot of the
[8:33] work is continuous. So you'll see um some of the same items that we will um
[8:40] work on in each one of the seasons. Um and I think it's really important for
[8:46] everyone to know that when we talk about the budget and when we look at the
[8:49] budget timeline, we truly are always living in three fiscal years. So it's
[8:55] really important for us to be strong in looking at the history of the previous
[9:00] fiscal year. And that's a lot of the work that you can see happened over the
[9:04] summer months with the fiscal year 26 close out. Um we're also it's very
[9:11] important for us to make sure that there are strong administration of the current
[9:16] budget that we're living in. So the fiscal year 27 budget. So you'll see
[9:21] throughout the budget calendar that there will be um continuous monthly
[9:25] budget reporting and that's um how the budget information has been previously
[9:31] reported in the past. So we'll continue that and then we'll also do some
[9:36] quarterly reporting with a memo that is attached to it and that will just
[9:40] provide you some context of um this is the budget picture to date. These are
[9:46] some of the projections that we're looking at for the rest of the fiscal
[9:50] year and these are some of the impacts that we may see going into the upcoming
[9:55] fiscal year. And so always looking at the past year, the present year and then
[10:01] very importantly all of that information is helping us build the budget for the
[10:06] upcoming year. And so you can see that that work will start soon. So, the
[10:11] fiscal year 28 budget building process will happen over the fall. That will
[10:17] start very soon. Um, and that will continue over the winter leading up to
[10:22] town meeting in the spring, which is in May. Um, why the budget calendar is
[10:29] important and why um, we thought it was really important to bring this all to
[10:33] you and to talk about this tonight. Um, we want to make sure that the budget
[10:38] isn't just a single financial document. Um, we want it to be thoughtful, we want
[10:44] it to be transparent, and we want it to be collaborative. And so the budget
[10:49] calendar truly um is an effort to make the entire process transparent and
[10:55] collaborative not only um within the district and the employees, the
[11:01] students, the staff and everyone that um enters the Rockland public schools, but
[11:07] also with the community at large. So, we do partner with the folks at town hall
[11:12] to talk about so many different we have so many different shared costs. Um, and
[11:18] also just our community members. We always try to remember that um we truly
[11:24] are making sure that we are representing the taxpayers here in Rockland. Um, and
[11:30] we want to we want them to all know that we're investing their funds wisely. Um,
[11:35] so again, I apologize that the document in the calendar wasn't shared. Um, I
[11:40] really value and we all value feedback. So, um, we're looking forward to working
[11:46] with everyone throughout the budget process um, this year and into the next
[11:51] several years. Um, and if there are any updates or changes that we can make,
[11:56] again, this is a draft. we can update it as we finalize and schedule some of the
[12:02] meetings um that will happen throughout the year. Uh and we'll make sure to
[12:07] share this out with folks so that we can solicit some more feedback and continue
[12:12] to update it. >> All right. Thank you very much. I think
[12:15] it's impressive to have um I know that we always talk about this year and next
[12:20] year and the next year and we hear it coming and it's coming and um I know
[12:24] when we're aligning budgets and things this is sort of in our minds and on the
[12:30] horizon but it's never been like in a document setup and I think that's
[12:33] impressive. It does make it sort of um for the people that don't sort of talk
[12:39] budget all the time this sort of spells it out in an easier fashion. Um, and I
[12:44] think that that is huge for transparency, huge for understanding of
[12:49] what we are doing. Um, we are the biggest budget um, in the town of
[12:53] Rockland and we know that and so we do try to be um, as transparent as possible
[12:58] and I think this just adds to it. So, thank you. I I when I was flipping
[13:03] through this over the weekend, I was impressed. Great.
[13:05] » So, thank you for spelling it all out. >> Of course.
[13:08] » Do you ladies have questions? >> Would like adoption of this this
[13:11] evening? Yes. >> So, it can be shared. So
[13:13] » y >> a motion to adopt.
[13:15] » If we adopt then we're not because this is fluid. If we adopt it, we adopting it
[13:20] as fluid so that it can change. It's just being adopted so it can be shared.
[13:24] Correct. >> Correct. Setting it in. We've discussed
[13:27] this in various places but we have not shared it until we had school committee
[13:31] authoriz um school committee authorization to do so. But we're going
[13:36] to FinCom on the 23rd. Right. >> And we wanted to bring this calendar
[13:40] with them. >> Okay. um with us
[13:43] » um to go over. >> Okay.
[13:45] » Okay. >> Any questions?
[13:46] » So, there are no specific dates. It's seasonal.
[13:48] » Okay. Perfect. >> Yeah. Um and it's compliant with our
[13:51] policies and procedures um that you approved at the last meeting.
[13:56] » And you know, I think it's a great step, you know, by Katie um coming forward
[14:01] with transparency and increased community and stakeholder engagement.
[14:05] » I agree process. So, very excited about it.
[14:09] » Yes. >> Any questions?
[14:12] No questions. And I think that word um that has been spoken about transparency
[14:16] because there is a lot of work that happens and um I think having it
[14:22] organized and and I know three pages of bullets that really, you know, are one
[14:28] item that says we do this. There's a lot more to that, right? So this is really
[14:33] um maybe just calling out some of the higher level things that happen. Um, so
[14:38] I think it's it's great and um not only will it be shared, but I think um the
[14:43] goal is to also share it with the public, not just town administrative
[14:47] buildings and and other departments. It this hopefully will, I think, be put on
[14:52] our school website and stuff like that. >> Yes. Which we are revamping. Y
[14:56] » um and meeting on it again tomorrow um at 3
[15:00] o'clock and this will go right up on it. We got the policies and procedures up
[15:04] last week. Um, and we'll put this up as well.
[15:07] » Very good. >> Okay.
[15:08] » I don't have anything else. >> Entertain a motion to
[15:12] » motion to adopt the Rockland Public Schools budget calendar.
[15:18] » Second. All those in favor? That's a vote. Thank you.
[15:23] Now, we'll move on to our homeschool requests.
[15:27] Um we have 33 I believe we counted for our
[15:33] homeschool requests. Um anything to add to that?
[15:38] » No, I would I would recommend that uh school committee does accept these um
[15:43] applications and the information that was provided to us. I did go through
[15:46] each of them. Uh they were very well done.
[15:49] » Um and I think you know something that I I do not have any concern over
[15:53] recommending. >> Okay, great. Thank you. Any questions?
[15:56] Nope. Um I thought we did get an email with an updated Was there one or two
[16:02] extra. So I just want to make sure that we're counting the right number. I don't
[16:07] know if we >> cover page should have been replaced.
[16:10] » Oh. Oh, okay. >> But the second cover page.
[16:13] » Okay. Um well then um I don't have any other questions.
[16:17] » I noticed in a lot of the packets it says will um provide like a progress
[16:22] report if requested. Do you ever well do request them ever or do like a yearly
[16:28] check-in or anything along those lines? >> So frequently um Denise Berno
[16:32] » Yeah. >> who um is in the office with me as well
[16:36] will reach out and remind everyone that there are certain documents that we
[16:41] would like them to send to us each year >> and frequently after she does that all
[16:46] the other information starts coming in. Okay. So that was part of the different
[16:49] packets that I did review, portfolios of work that was done, grading that
[16:54] happened, um some of the the different um homeschooling network groups that are
[17:01] out there that um work with families um collaboratively. So not just it's not
[17:07] just a family specific. >> Yeah, exactly. Um so yes, we do get
[17:11] that. >> I was just curious.
[17:12] » Yeah. Do we get it all the time? No, we don't. But um I found that we had a lot
[17:17] that came in. I was actually really impressed with the amount of people that
[17:20] did send in >> uh after it was sent out the email to
[17:23] request for that and then the just the caliber of what was sent in was very
[17:26] good. >> Perfect.
[17:30] » Entertain a motion. >> Entertain a motion to um approve the
[17:36] homeschool requests for the 2627 school year.
[17:40] » Second. >> All those in favor? That's a vote.
[17:45] And now we'll go on to the fundraisers.
[17:51] Um, we have RHS student government's project pumpkin trick-or-treating in the
[17:56] high school hallways for children. The funds go to the student government
[17:59] council account. And this seems to be on October 17th this year. So get your
[18:06] trick-or-treaters and their costumes ready.
[18:10] Next, we have RHS student government for homecoming dance. The RHS students buy
[18:15] tickets and funds go to student government council and that will be on
[18:19] October 24th this year. Get your dresses and suits ready. And then Julia Danszio
[18:25] has a class of 2027 through the 2020 30 class t-shirts for pep rally funds to
[18:32] raise money for all the classes. No questions. Love all the candy talk
[18:38] already for October events. Um, so, um, motion to approve the three requested
[18:44] fundraisers. >> Second. All those in favor? It's odd
[18:48] just being the three of us. I keep waiting for others.
[18:51] » All right. Now, we'll move on to Superintendent Hackit's superintendent
[18:56] to report. >> There we go. Thank you very much. Um, so
[18:59] we have been very busy since um, we were last together welcoming our new staff
[19:04] and our experienced staff. who have held our new employee orientation run by Jan
[19:09] Chan, including a bus tour um of Rockland led by Fred Damon.
[19:14] » Um we uh our opening convocation was brief um getting staff to where they
[19:20] actually want to be, which is in their classrooms getting ready. We had a um
[19:25] fabulous opening with grades 1 through 12 reporting um last week. is, you know,
[19:30] Jen said it was a lot of fun on day one, but maybe day two in the rain was even a
[19:36] little bit more fun. Uh, welcoming everyone welcoming everyone back. Um,
[19:41] so, uh, just the energy, the enthusiasm, the new, it's just, it's everyone's
[19:47] favorite day of the year. So, um, it was just, it was great. And tomorrow we
[19:50] welcome back, um, our preschool. Well, some of the preschool are new and some
[19:54] of the kindergarten and new, but preschool and kindergarten begin
[19:58] tomorrow. So, we'll have our whole community together um for the first time
[20:01] tomorrow, which is um wonderful. Uh the middle school, the high school, and
[20:06] Eston have all completed their orientations for the um preschool,
[20:11] kindergarten, 9th, and 12th grade. Phelps held its open house for all
[20:15] grades last week. And the middle school's open house is this Thursday at
[20:20] 6 PM. And the high school's open house is next Wednesday at 6:00 p.m. All
[20:25] right. Um, enrollment is still ongoing. We'll have updated numbers for you. Um,
[20:30] we got three new kindergarten registrations today. Um, at at open
[20:35] house. We're here. >> Nothing. But yeah,
[20:38] » correct. >> Take them now.
[20:42] » So, it's all very exciting. And thank you to Noel Novio. The the
[20:46] transportation coordination and effort that has gone on um over the course of
[20:51] the last, you know, several weeks is just, as we all know, intensive, labor
[20:57] intensive, >> um, and patience and kindness, and she
[21:01] does everything that she can to get every kiddo on a bus as soon as
[21:05] possible. Um, but there are safety processes and procedures we need to do
[21:10] um, and need to follow and first student needs to follow to make sure that the
[21:14] kiddos are on the register. So, when they do the bus clearing, the bus
[21:18] checks, etc. So, there is work that goes on. It's not as simple as, you know,
[21:22] Jane, get on a bus, >> right? there's work in the background.
[21:25] So, um so thank you to Noel um for all that. Um I'm very pleased to report and
[21:31] I know Dr. Mars Small um is working this evening, but there's been a tremendous
[21:37] improvement on the ebike um and bicycle activity um on school property. Um and
[21:45] folks, Joe was me, you were mentioning tonight that you've noticed it
[21:48] throughout the town, >> right?
[21:49] » Um the kiddos are following the rules, following the regulations. They're
[21:53] wearing their helmets um and they are not congregating here even on the
[21:57] weekends. >> No.
[21:58] » Um in the drive-thru. So, a huge shout out to the police department um for all
[22:02] their efforts um regarding that. Thank you to Tom Resky who donated a crew and
[22:08] materials to landscape the front of the high school um before the start of
[22:12] school and plant the moms from um so we're very grateful to him for that
[22:17] work. And then our senior uh representative uh Nola Finn has been
[22:22] accepted to the department of elementary and secondary education's advisory group
[22:27] on the state high school graduation frameworks.
[22:31] » Impressive. >> And she will be attending meetings in
[22:33] September and October. So congratulations to you.
[22:36] » Thank you >> on that. Um and then finally this Friday
[22:40] we'll be recognizing in um partnership um with town hall um and the town
[22:44] departments the 25th anniversary of the terrorist attacks of 911 um through
[22:49] participation in Rockland Remembers the 911 ceremony which will begin at 8:30 in
[22:55] front of town hall. The high school chorus will be singing both the national
[22:59] anthem and God bless America. our K to2 music uh department head John Piaza will
[23:05] be playing taps and students from the high school and middle school student
[23:09] leadership groups will be attending as well. So all residents are welcome and
[23:15] that is this Friday 911 at 8:30 a.m. in front of town hall.
[23:22] » And that is all I have to report this evening.
[23:23] » That was a lot. That was a lot. >> It's been a great week,
[23:26] » I guess. So, um, yes, I noticed over the weekend, um,
[23:30] that we saw no, as just driving around and doing whatever, there were no kids
[23:36] with no helmets on. Such a big difference compared to just even two
[23:40] weeks ago, there was hardly any kids with a helmet on. So, I am impressed
[23:45] » with RPD for that. Um, and that's all you have. Any questions on the
[23:51] superintendent report? >> No. Okay, we'll move on to public
[23:55] service announcements and I'll start with our student representatives, Miss
[23:58] Nolafin. Welcome again. >> Um, August was a great end to the summer
[24:04] and start to the school year. The student council ran a leadership
[24:08] conference with leaders, captains, club leaders, and student mentors. Um, we all
[24:13] came in for a night. We had a keynote speaker, Dr. Doug Luff who spoke about
[24:17] his journey from homelessness to Harvard and active leadership and making the
[24:22] choice to progress as a leader which was fantastic. We had studentr run workshops
[24:27] and workshops by Dr. Dougloff himself and it was a great night to get all of
[24:32] our student leaders together and ready for the school year. Um and then shortly
[24:36] after we had our new student orientation where we had our student mentors give
[24:40] tours to the incoming students um mostly freshmen
[24:45] » and then our student led panel for the parents which went well and just had us
[24:50] ready for September 2nd when we came in. Um everything went flawlessly like you
[24:55] said such spirit and enthusiasm like it's hard not to notice and
[25:01] » I love the start of school. I might be crazy for that but Mhm.
[25:04] » I I definitely did notice the energy. Um so I'm glad you pointed that out.
[25:09] » And then we had our fire drill today. No issues. That went smoothly. Everyone's
[25:14] settling into their schedules. We have picture day tomorrow. It was postponed,
[25:19] but fall sports are in full swing. Um I know today girls and boys soccer had
[25:25] games. There was a volleyball game. And then cross country and golf had their
[25:29] events. And coming up is Senior Sunrise this
[25:34] Friday at 6:00 am bright and early. Um, and then our first football home game is
[25:39] this Friday night. So, it'll be great to see all the Bulldog spirit. That's all.
[25:44] » All right. Very impressive. I like that you're bringing your aame.
[25:48] Um, I had another thought to that. The senior sunrise. Let's hope the sun is up
[25:55] at that hour. I think last year at senior sunrise it was still dark.
[26:00] Maybe they got up a little too early. So, let's hope you get that. And good
[26:05] luck to the Bulldogs on Friday night and all the other teams. Any questions or
[26:10] comments? >> No. All right, we'll go to the left.
[26:14] Miss Hennessy. >> Well, um, Miss Nola, thank you for
[26:17] giving all those updates. I think you crossed off quite a few of the things I
[26:21] was going to say, so I love um how thorough you've been. Uh, just want to
[26:24] say welcome back. Um, hope everyone did enjoy their Labor Day. Um, good luck to
[26:30] the Estston families um, uh, for those that are beginning their journey here in
[26:34] Rockland Public Schools. Uh, good luck to all the um, RHS fall sports. Um, and
[26:40] going to put my Dr. um, Marl Small hat on and say wash your hands and get
[26:47] rested because you're now in contact with a lot of germs. Right? There's a
[26:51] lot of kids coming together using the same dust, using the same door handles.
[26:55] So, uh, please stay healthy because it usually happens in the first couple
[26:59] weeks when everyone's back and there's a lot of new exposure to different germs.
[27:03] So, that's my little plug to to stay rested and eat healthy.
[27:09] » All right. She'd be so proud of you. >> I know. I'm going to protect her.
[27:11] » You've grown a long way. >> Sit next to her.
[27:16] » Emily the night before the preschooler. >> I do have a preschooler going to
[27:21] preschool for the first time tomorrow. She's very excited. I think I am a
[27:25] little excited too, a little sad at the same time, but she's ready. I don't know
[27:30] how I'll feel about that tomorrow, but um welcome back. I'm very excited to be
[27:36] joining Rock Public Schools again, I guess, but this time as a parent. Uh
[27:41] sounds weird even saying that. Um but I hope everyone has a great year. I know
[27:46] there's a pack meeting at Estston on Friday morning at 9:00 a.m. if anyone
[27:50] would like to join. there. I think they're desperately looking because I
[27:54] think a lot of people have stepped up to Phelps that were involved. So, uh
[27:58] there's a lot of open spots regarding that. And that's all.
[28:03] » All right. Good luck tomorrow. >> Thank you.
[28:05] » It's okay to cry. >> We all have been there.
[28:09] » Um I don't really have anything to add. I was going to say if anyone wore their
[28:12] beautiful picture day outfit today and they're wearing it tomorrow, there's no
[28:15] judging. And um I think that the Eston pack is a
[28:21] hard pack because they're only there for a short amount of time and then they
[28:24] move on. So anytime they get anyone involved is a great thing and then it's
[28:28] usually those moms that or dads that continue on and volunteer all the way up
[28:32] to this table. So um yeah, that's I don't really have anything else. You
[28:37] guys have all said it. >> All right. Well then motion to adjourn.
[28:41] » Second. All those in favor. That's a wrap. Good night Rockland.