Commissioners Court Regular Meeting

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Agenda

[0:11] INVOCATION; Commissioner Stacy

[0:53] PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG; Commissioner Bailey

[1:04] PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS FLAG; Commissioner Bailey

[1:19] RECOGNITION OF GUESTS;

[1:23] AGENDA

[1:25] PUBLIC FORUM: (This is the public’s opportunity to address the Commissioners Court about County matters. During this meeting, the Commissioners Court will not discuss, consider or take action on any item not included on this meeting’s agenda. We respectfully ask that anyone stepping forward to speak during the Public Forum to please limit remarks to three minutes or less.)

[14:24] Discuss/Act on approving a one-year Resolution with Meals on Wheels Senior Services and an Agreement to continue providing home-delivered meal services for homebound persons in the County who are elderly and/or have a disability, effective October 1, 2023 in the amount of $40,000.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[17:54] Discuss/Act on an update regarding soil conservation lakes: Rockwall Lake, Rainbow Lake and Lofland Lake, and all related issues; (Commissioner Bailey)

[47:09] Discuss/Act on approving the Ordinance Regulating Junkyards and Automotive Wrecking and Salvage Yards located in the unincorporated areas of Rockwall County, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)

[48:42] Discuss/Act on naming Rockwall County Sesquicentennial Plaza, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)

[50:28] Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Sevier)

[52:10] Discuss/Act on turning off non-essential lights to the County Court House from September 6, 2023, between 11 pm to 6 am, until the end of the migration period of October 29, 2023, and all related issues; (Commissioner Sevier)

[55:23] Discuss/Act on a Public Hearing Notice Zoning Request to be held by the City of McLendon-Chisholm, and all related issues; (Judge New)

[1:00:04] Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the planned County Annex project, and all related issues; (Judge New)

[1:07:57] Discuss/Act on approving a Local Match Funds Agreement, effective October 1, 2023, with the North Texas Behavioral Health Authority (NTBHA) in the amount of $66,064.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:08:47] Discuss/Act on approving the one-year renewal Interlocal Agreements effective October 1, 2023 with the Cities of Rockwall ($65,633), Royse City ($88,419), Heath ($15,475), McLendon-Chisholm ($127,813) and Fate ($72,661) for providing fire protection services to non-incorporated areas within the County, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:22:07] Discuss/Act on approving a one-year contract renewal, effective October 1, 2023, with Medic Rescue, Inc. to provide transportation of human remains to the Medical Examiner’s Office at a cost of $425.00 per deceased, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:23:50] Discuss/Act on approving a one-year contract renewal, effective October 1, 2023, with Medic Rescue, Inc. to provide transportation of persons to a mental health facility pursuant to Chapters 573 & 574 of the Texas Health and Safety Code at the current Medicaid/Medicare rates, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:24:36] Discuss/Act on setting the daily rate for jury duty pay pursuant to HB 3474, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:28:31] Discuss/Act on approving an estimate from Foamworks to provide concrete repair services at the County Library at a cost of $7,456.76, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:30:58] Discuss/Act on approving a one-year renewal service agreement with Housewarmers for the Veterans Services office at a cost of $900.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:32:17] Discuss/Act on approving County membership with Dallas Regional Mobility Coalition at a fee of $8,992.50, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:40:40] Discuss/Act on approving a renewal agreement with Royse City for dispatch services provided by the Rockwall County Sheriff’s Office at an annual fee of $120,000.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:41:41] Discuss/Act on approving a quote from Network Sciences, Inc., for document file preparation and delivery of all PDF forms and scanned images at a cost of $3,000.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:45:20] Discuss/Act on approving a Non-Exclusive License Agreement with Indigent Healthcare Solutions for the software system to be used by the Indigent Health Care Department at a monthly fee of $1,865.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:47:39] Discuss/Act on approving a three-year renewal maintenance agreement with Affiliated Telephone, Inc., for phone system support at an annual cost of $13,247.50, effective October 1, 2023, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:48:20] Discuss/Act on approving the renewal of an Agreement for use of subscription material with Lexipol to provide a policy management service and software for law enforcement, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:50:27] Discuss/Act on awarding a contract based on the bid(s) received for generator service and inspection of four generators located at two separate County facilities, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:52:58] Discuss/Act on approving a letter of non-renewal for the Interlocal Cooperation Agreement with the City of West Tawakoni regarding housing prisoners, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:53:51] Discuss/Act on approving Amendment #2 to the agreement with HDR Architecture, Inc., to accept the proposal for a load bearing Feasibility Study of the Courthouse penthouse at a cost of $15,989.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:55:34] Discuss/Act on approving the FY2024 Texas SAVNS Annual Maintenance Grant Contract whereby the Attorney General?s Office will provide grant monies in the amount of $18,030.39, and all related issues; (Judge New ? Auditor)

[1:56:27] Discuss/Act on awarding 2024 Contracts for Bids received for the following Road & Bridge Construction Materials: (1) Hot Mix Asphalt Concrete; (2) Asphalts, Oils & Emulsions; (3) Gas, Oil & Diesel; (4) Corrugated Metal Pipe; (5) Cement Treated Material, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)

[1:57:26] Discuss/Act on renewing the following annual maintenance agreements for October 1, 2023, through September 30, 2024, and all related issues;

[1:57:27] AGS Landscaping Lawn Maintenance for New Courthouse, Historic Courthouse, County Library, Adult Probation, County Services Bldg., Veterans Memorial, County Jail $103,354.00

[1:57:27] Accurate Controls Security Equipment for County Jail $44,249.17

[1:57:31] Animoto Productions Picture/Video software for County Agent $180.00

[2:00:05] DataBank Microfilm Reader for County Clerk $1,949.40

[2:00:27] Davis Cable Technologies "On Call" Fiber optic contractor $3,500.00

[2:00:27] Dell Remote Hardware Recovery $6,240.00

[2:00:59] PUBLIC HEARING: to discuss the proposed FY2024 Budget for Rockwall County, and all related issues;

[2:05:21] PUBLIC HEARING to discuss the proposed 2023 Tax Rate for Rockwall County, all related issues;

[2:06:16] PUBLIC HEARING to discuss the County Clerk’s Archive Plan FY2024 for the Preservation and Restoration of the County Clerk’s Records Archives, and all related issues;

[2:07:29] Discuss/Act on adopting the Rockwall County Budget for FY2024 and take record vote, and all related issues; (Judge New - Auditor)

[2:25:38] Discuss/Act on adopting the Rockwall County Tax Rate for 2023 (Fiscal Year 2024) and take record vote, and all related issues; (Judge New - Auditor)

[2:26:43] Discuss/Act on approving the County Clerk’s Archive Plan FY2024 for the Preservation and Restoration of the County Clerk’s Records Archives, and all related issues; (Judge New - County Clerk)

[2:27:06] Discuss/Act on designating a day or days of the week on which the County Commissioners Court shall convene in a regular term each month during the next fiscal year pursuant to Texas Local Government Code §81.005(a), and all related issues; (Judge New)

[2:28:25] Discuss/Act on approving Rockwall County Employee holidays for the calendar year 2024, and all related issues; (Judge New)

[2:31:21] Discuss/Act on approving the FY2024 Sheriffs’ and Constables’ Fees pursuant to Tex. Local Gov’t Code §118.131(d), and all related issues; (Judge New/Sheriff)

[2:32:29] CONSENT AGENDA:

[2:33:11] PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS/DISPOSITIONS: Discuss/Act on approving the following property acquisitions and dispositions of fixed assets:

[2:34:34] NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER(S):

[2:35:58] APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S):

[2:37:53] EXECUTIVE SESSION: The Commissioners Court of Rockwall County reserves the right to adjourn into Executive Session at any time during the course of this meeting to discuss any of the matters listed in this agenda item, in the order deemed appropriate, as authorized by Chapter 551, Open Meetings, Subchapter D, Texas Government Code, or to seek the advice of its attorney.

[2:37:56] RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION: Pursuant to the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551, Texas Government Code, Section 551.001, et seq., the Commissioners Court will reconvene into Open Session to take any action necessary on matters discussed in Executive Session.

[2:37:56] COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS: Pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.0415, the County Judge and the County Commissioners may report on the following items: (1) expression of thanks, congratulations or condolences; (2) information about holiday schedules; (3) recognition of individuals; (4) reminders about upcoming County events; (5) information community events; and (6) announcements involving an imminent threat to public health and safety.

[2:42:31] ADJOURN

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[0:03] Good morning. It's 9 a.m. It is September 12, 2023. I call this Commissioner's Court to order. Commissioner

[0:11] Stacey is going to lead us into invocation and Commissioner Bailey is going to lead us in our pledges to the flags. All right.

[0:19] All your heads. Thank you, Heavenly Father, for all of your many blessings, for everything that we have, everything that we cherish, and we know that it all comes from you.

[0:29] So we thank you for the blessing of this great county, the great people that we have here,

[0:34] the passion going into the budget and everything that we're here to discuss.

[0:37] Just be with us, grant us our wisdom, be with our first responders, our military men

[0:42] and women here and abroad.

[0:45] And again, we just come and thank you for everything that you've done for us and just be with us

[0:49] through this meeting.

[0:50] And she's this thing we pray.

[0:51] Amen.

[1:23] All right.

[1:24] Thank you, commissioners.

[1:25] That leads us to agenda item number one, public forum.

[1:27] I believe we have four people signed up to speak just because you didn't sign up doesn't mean you can't speak

[1:33] But it does mean the four get to go first. So if you want to speak be thinking about it

[1:38] Number one on the list is mr. Bob Wacker so

[1:50] normally Bob you watch the meetings

[1:53] And you know I let people go just as as long as they want to we have a

[1:58] Gender so big it hurt my back carrying it in here

[2:01] So I'm gonna be a stickler on the three-minute rule today

[2:05] Thank you so much. One comment. Move the camera from way up on the ceiling because all I see are the tops of your heads on these video meetings. Anyway, your IT guy. Thank you for your time and attention.

[2:16] I had a couple slides, but I won't bother putting them up. You could look at revenue and I revenues is good. I guess it's anybody. You guys do a great job on that.

[2:24] I looked at expenses, and yeah, normally the expenses are, and I prayed on JL costs, 19%,

[2:32] some of these expenses are justified because things are expanding, more criminals, more

[2:35] crimes, et cetera, et cetera.

[2:38] The bottom line was, and this is the big topic, and people have asked me to look at this

[2:41] topic, is the addition of the people, the general counsel, and the public information's

[2:47] officer.

[2:48] I guess my question, and that's 215 when you add all the other costs, and that's a lot

[2:52] of money.

[2:54] What are they going to do that they're not being done now?

[2:58] How much public relations do we do now?

[3:01] How much do we need?

[3:04] You know, I don't see any.

[3:05] I was, I found it next door here for the city, for City Rockwell.

[3:08] And so there's an opportunity there for you to do it, but I haven't seen a contract, a

[3:14] justification.

[3:15] What is jobs going to be?

[3:16] What is deliverable to me, et cetera, et cetera?

[3:18] Just like the road, the consultant for the highways and stuff.

[3:21] So it's it's kind of so open-ended and I think with just a 3% growth in the county

[3:27] Projected for the last couple years and next few years. I'm not sure we need that

[3:31] General counsel

[3:33] Gosh, I heard somebody say well every department's got a council

[3:36] But I really couldn't find it but I did find another item on the agenda on the budget. It's a 100 400 100

[3:44] Under general government

[3:46] 400-409

[3:48] Legal services 100,000 dollars

[3:51] I didn't know what that was.

[3:53] We already got $100,000 set aside for legal services.

[3:57] It was $400,409.

[4:01] And so my question is, is this the right time to do some of this stuff?

[4:04] And if it's in support of, and I commend what you're trying to do, maybe,

[4:08] looking at trying to develop codes and stuff for the county,

[4:11] to direct the county to where they should be going and what they should be doing,

[4:14] interlocal agreements and all that type of stuff.

[4:16] If you need a lawyer for that, great, but hire him at the time.

[4:19] but this seems a little bit exorbitant, $253,000 for these two people. Fire Marshal, again, my son is a son-in-law

[4:28] as a deputy chief in Mesquite. They've got the greatest Fire Marshal in the world. She's recommended by

[4:33] everybody. But they have a Fire Department and they provide Fire Marshal service to other counties and

[4:39] communities and stuff. So I'm not sure we need a Fire Marshal if we don't have a Fire Department.

[4:43] I think those are my comments. Thank you.

[4:45] Thank you, Bob.

[4:47] Okay, Michael Olscher is next on the list to speak.

[4:59] Michael, you've been here before and my pronouncing your last name correct is at Olscher.

[5:03] All right. Thank you, sir.

[5:04] Good morning, everybody. Thanks for letting me.

[5:09] This one, yes.

[5:14] Michael Olscher, I live at 14893 South FM 548 Rockwall, Texas.

[5:21] and I'm here to talk about the new building that's coming up next to my complex, next to my home.

[5:31] And this is the late point project and specifically about the on-site sewer facility.

[5:39] I looked at what the county had as far as the review of that and to me it was very lacking.

[5:44] It didn't really explain what these items were covering to me.

[5:51] They're trying to get a minimum requirement by the county so they can make a size 13 project fit into a size 10 site.

[6:00] There's no clear number of office employees or the rental spaces employees.

[6:07] There's no listing for the green strap, there's no calculations for food, seats based on the seats or the water usage or the water, the condensation from the freezer cooler, air conditioning, all their stuff feeds into the onsite sewer system.

[6:26] There are no public restaurants for this 12,000 square foot complex and a good portion of

[6:38] that complex is the gas station and most of us when we go to a gas station there are facilities

[6:43] that we use but this is specifically stating in the application to this county that there

[6:50] will be no public facilities, which is to me, kind of bizarre, but that's just me.

[7:00] And then the other item, it's pertaining to the same complex, is they have security system

[7:07] lights out there. And once these, these are in the back on the sides and once those

[7:11] veggers are fired up, I can walk across my two and a half acres of homestead without any

[7:19] flashlight in the dead of night. I can open up windows in my house and raise the blinds.

[7:25] I don't need to turn lights on the inside of my house. So these are the items that I'm looking

[7:29] for the county to address.

[7:35] I have recommendations for improvements of the design, but I'm sure you

[7:42] You guys are sure that's it for right now.

[7:47] Thank you, sir.

[7:50] All right, Penelope Chapman.

[8:00] That's perfectly fine with me.

[8:01] John White.

[8:03] If it's OK with John.

[8:05] Good

[8:12] morning, and thank you for taking time for him to hear me.

[8:15] We're talking about agenda item number nine,

[8:18] the ARPA funds for the, I'm sorry, what now?

[8:23] Oh, I'm sorry.

[8:24] This is John and John White, 1929 South Lakeshore Drive Rockwall, Texas, 7508, 7, etc., etc.

[8:34] Back to item number nine.

[8:36] I wrote to you and you all have received an email from me.

[8:39] I'm trying to discourage you from using ARPA funds to build a building designed by Barack who's saying Obama.

[8:46] What I'm suggesting instead is that we design and build a building that meets the needs of our county administrators

[8:53] and elected officials that with a flexibility if we want to add a second

[8:57] floor or a third floor or a tenth floor we can do it and I will and with the

[9:02] money that's in our pocket. We don't have to even go out for a bond election to

[9:05] do this. We can do it. Now we could have already been turning dirt in us months

[9:10] ago if we had been using conventional common sense and whatnot but the

[9:14] ARPA fund sounds so attractive but the reality it comes with a huge huge

[9:19] looks on it. I have been engaged in federal contracting since 1971. I know what they

[9:26] do and I know how they work and I don't give a flip what the regulations say Frank, you

[9:31] know what the facts are? If some bureaucrat says you did that wrong, you have violated the

[9:37] contract, you have no appeal. They are the final arbiter and you're stuck with it and

[9:45] they can claw it back and you say, well, that's not going to happen. Yes, it does happen.

[9:50] I was a paid consultant to the city of Dallas when they were doing their ARPA funds, okay?

[9:56] And they had a great committee of knowledgeable people, but some guy that came in and overrode

[10:02] the thing. And so I submitted in writing, take my name off of everything. I didn't want

[10:09] my name anywhere on this. I'm not going to accept any money from it. They even try to get

[10:14] me to give him a tax number and everything, I wouldn't give it to him. I said no. I walked

[10:20] away from it because I understand what can happen. I could be tried for a crime for the

[10:25] consulting, even though I'm doing the right and proper thing, the legal things. It's here

[10:29] relevant. I know how the federal government works. Let's use our money, just like we did

[10:34] with this courthouse, why me? Arpa dollars that we use on that. How about our jail, so

[10:39] for. We want those raw buildings designed to fit meat. Our needs, not the needs of some

[10:45] bureaucrat in Washington, D.C., and I thank you very much for your time.

[10:49] Thank you, John. All right, Penelope. It's back to you.

[11:09] Thanks for listening to us, but once again, I am here to address the subject of the Commissioner's

[11:15] Court funding a general council position. During your campaigns, each and every one of you

[11:20] You described yourselves as conservatives and wanted to address growth of government.

[11:25] By adding this position, you are growing government for the benefit of only five, not

[11:31] for the benefit of the county.

[11:33] This leaves us with the impression that you want control or influence for your benefit

[11:38] only from this legal position.

[11:42] If you want to address a short-term litigation need or do not want to overburden the DA's

[11:49] office, that might be understandable, but it's still wrong.

[11:53] To take this action for the benefit of yourselves only and may not even be legal, please consider

[12:00] the following three suggestions, so that you're physically responsible, and it avoids

[12:06] a 300% increase in your Commissioner Court budget,

[12:12] one, which are proposed $120,000 into

[12:17] to the DA's budget for additional staff work

[12:19] can benefit all county residents.

[12:21] Or two, let a contract for this position

[12:25] with an expiration date, number of billable hours

[12:29] or dollar amount so that the taxpayers

[12:31] do not have to fund this position in the future.

[12:35] As you have all stated in different venues,

[12:37] once you add a position, it is almost impossible

[12:41] to terminate that position.

[12:43] This position should be administered

[12:45] through the DA's office.

[12:47] This avoids the citizens funding another $12,000 for dues and subscriptions,

[12:53] which I believe are available already through the DA staff.

[12:57] Your proposed proposal forces the citizens to pay twice for some of the same services.

[13:03] Or move funds from your budgets to collectively fund this new office and staff.

[13:09] I believe that the taxpayers would support a growth in government

[13:13] that if it is for clerks and administrative positions that benefits all county residents

[13:19] but not benefits just elected officials.

[13:24] Lastly, to increase in this budget, you have increased the salary of the health coordinator

[13:32] chief assistant position.

[13:35] I do not understand why this body would agree to fund an increase in a position for someone

[13:40] who has yet to be certified or trained for that position.

[13:44] This sets a bad president for the future.

[13:47] I could understand putting the funds into the budget, but they should not be authorized

[13:52] or paid until the employee has completed their training and certification.

[13:57] And thank you.

[13:58] Lastly, I had to look a long time and had to get the answer from the auditor.

[14:03] But thank you for funding the dump truck, even though it wasn't listed as a dump truck.

[14:08] I believe it will make a difference for all the citizens.

[14:13] Thank you, Penelope.

[14:16] Is there anybody else that would like to address the court on any county matters?

[14:23] Anyone?

[14:23] Okay.

[14:24] Seeing no one that brings us to agenda item number two, discuss and act on approving a one-year

[14:30] resolution with Mills-On-Will Senior Services and an agreement to continue providing home-delivered

[14:35] mail services for homebound persons in the county who are elderly and or have a disability

[14:40] effective October 1, 2023 in the amount of $40,000 in all related issues.

[14:46] I'm going to kick this straight over to Lisa.

[14:50] Thanks, sir.

[14:51] This is the funding that the court set aside for meals on wheels by authorizing the grant.

[15:00] And the resolution and the agreement that facilitates the meals on wheels to further go after

[15:09] other grant funding for the monies that you submit to Margie. Sorry, Margie's here, if

[15:17] you want to talk any about meals on wheels and what they're doing for the community, but

[15:21] other than that, we have done this in the past. It works as a good community organization

[15:27] that works well with Rockwell County. Does anybody have any questions for Margie or yeah

[15:37] come on

[15:38] absolutely.

[15:44] Much of your continued support and this resolution is so important for our

[15:49] county. Last year the Texas Department of Agriculture awarded Meals on Wheels because of that signature

[15:58] on the resolution $40,000.

[16:01] And this funding can also be used for individuals under the age of 60 that are disabled.

[16:11] So we are serving some disabled citizens that are like 30, 40 years of age.

[16:18] So thank you so much.

[16:20] We have already served over 700 seniors this year and 250 care givers.

[16:28] So thanks so much, we really appreciate your support.

[16:33] Marty, want to take 30 seconds and

[16:37] give us a little commercial on your building fund.

[16:41] Yes, we are so excited.

[16:43] We are at 60% secured funding.

[16:48] And we are writing grants every day and we're going to be meeting with some foundations

[16:57] throughout Texas and so we will definitely give you an update.

[17:02] We are meeting with the architect again on Friday to finalize the needs assessment and

[17:10] we are hoping that if we are awarded these grants that we're applying to, that we are going

[17:15] be able to turn dirt in April or May. So good job. Thank you so much. And I want to recognize

[17:24] Margie and her staff. They do such a great job. What you do. And you have a small staff

[17:30] and you accomplish so much. So who does to you for your leadership and to the great staff you have?

[17:36] Yes well done. Thanks. I make a motion. We approve that when your resolution with

[17:43] Mill's unwield senior services.

[17:44] I'll second that motion.

[17:46] I'm motioned by Commissioner Stacey,

[17:47] second by Commissioner Macklic.

[17:48] Any further questions or comments?

[17:50] All those in favor say aye.

[17:51] Aye.

[17:52] Any opposed?

[17:53] It passes unanimously.

[17:54] Brings us to agenda item number three.

[17:58] Discuss and act on an update regarding soil conservation lakes,

[18:02] rock wall lake, rainbow lake, and loftland lake.

[18:05] Can all related issues?

[18:06] Commissioner Bailey and Mr. Owen Ken Trill

[18:09] is working his way to the microphone.

[18:11] Yes sir, thank you.

[18:13] Or if it could kind of give you a little bit of an highlight,

[18:17] can we start with the,

[18:24] some of the meetings that we've had previously

[18:27] about the rehab of the two legs,

[18:32] the shock wall and rainbows.

[18:37] Okay.

[18:38] And tell us in that if there is anything that

[18:41] the NRCS needs from us or your organization needs from us please I want to

[18:49] take notes today and get those down. Mr. Cantrell before you do that tell us who you

[18:55] are and who you represent here today. I'm Owen Cantrell I'm a district

[19:00] technician with the Coffman Van Zantz all the water conservation district. Thank

[19:04] you and we have had several meetings on both of these lakes over the

[19:12] years going on years now.

[19:15] I'll start off with Rockwall Lake. That's one it has a

[19:20] has a lot of problems. It has a lot of homes over there that get in

[19:27] and dated with water when this lake reaches spillway level and it has done that

[19:33] several times over the past years. And it has been designed for a state upgrade. And that

[19:45] is we were waiting for state funding. We were hoping to get that this year. Four years ago,

[19:55] there was a big initiative started on doing repairs and upgrades to all these sites across the

[20:03] state and legislature appropriated $150 million for that and that went a

[20:09] long way. We got a lot of work done over the third state. Well then the

[20:17] session after that they didn't appropriate but 50 million dollars. This last

[20:23] session they we asked for another 150 million. We got 25 million out of all the

[20:32] surplus that they had, we got 25 million of it. So Rockwall Lake will not be funded in this session.

[20:42] We will have to wait for another legislative session and I suggest between now and then that

[20:48] y'all get with your state reps, state senators and get the word out is what we need. There are 28

[21:00] sites in Rockwall County and all but just a few of them have been classified

[21:07] now as high hazard sites and that has to do with downstream development below

[21:13] them. If this downworked to breach what would happen to downstream and when

[21:19] there's possibility of loss of life that's what brings it brings them up to

[21:24] High Hazard Sandwich. Most of these sites were built back in the early 1950s, a few of

[21:32] them in the 60s, and we have a couple of them that were built in the 70s, but most of

[21:36] these older ones, well, they evolved for past 50-year design lifespan. That was the

[21:46] original lifespan only when they were designed to last 50 years. Well, we're approaching

[21:50] 70 years on a lot of them. They still function as they were designed, but they do need. It's just like.

[21:59] Just like us older people, we need. We need more money to keep us going.

[22:06] He wants to use it. I was looking at the court has no official comment, Mr. Cantrell.

[22:13] But that's kind of the facts on this. But Rockwall Lake has been designed and it is ready to

[22:20] go when the money is there.

[22:24] They have,

[22:27] I'm gonna say just redone the policies

[22:30] or these. Now there is no output from the county other than being the

[22:37] contracting officer in writing the contracts and administering the contracts.

[22:42] There's no portion before there was a portion that the county had to pay a

[22:48] a portion of the cost of these that has been taken away, the state's take is picked up all that part of that's one good thing about it.

[22:58] The estimated cost on Rockwall last year, it was a little over $12 million.

[23:07] They will have to do a concrete spillway. There's no room to expand the earth and spillway.

[23:15] They will have to put a concrete spillway in the middle of the dam and that's what drives

[23:20] a price up.

[23:22] Normally they could do one if they were going to do it, earth and spillway expansion.

[23:26] They could do it for around 5 million.

[23:28] When you add that concrete spillway in the middle, that drives the cost up tremendously.

[23:38] We'll pick it all up.

[23:39] Actually, the only cost to the county would be the cost to administer the contract and

[23:44] And they will get administration fee back for that to pay for that.

[23:50] Okay.

[23:51] And then rainbow real fast.

[23:53] Rainbow, not real fast, but in y'all we sell them, get to see you.

[23:59] So in your folder, there is an application or federal rehab.

[24:07] We did this in 2015, we've seen an application for this.

[24:12] And we have been in contact with NRCS, the Natural Resources Conservation Service, which is a branch of the USDA.

[24:23] We've been in contact with them, and also with the State Agency, and they both say that this is probably our best route to get funding for this is through the Federal Rehab Program.

[24:34] So there is, y'all all have application there and I have another one here, if y'all do vote to sign this, there are six of them that I will need to be signed.

[24:45] You keep one, the district keep one and then I have sent four of them to different agencies throughout the state and feds.

[24:53] And so what is Rockwell County delinquent in the application process?

[25:00] Yes.

[25:00] Well, the only thing that we'd need in the application process would be to be sure that

[25:05] the EAP, the merchant action plan is up to date on this site.

[25:11] And also, we would need the assurance letter from Attorney's opinion on the validity of

[25:18] the easements.

[25:19] And Mr. Bailey, I gave him a copy of those easements earlier.

[25:23] He has those in hand.

[25:24] the

[25:29] attorney opinion is a must that we have to come up they just won't make

[25:35] sure that these months that we do have are valid and that we do have a

[25:39] sufficient easement to cover all the area is it is it is your opinion to it

[25:46] is our yes that we do have that okay but they do they require an attorney's

[25:52] opinion. Correct. Yeah. Okay. They don't like our word for it.

[26:00] Okay. I have a couple quick questions.

[26:05] More of a high level. You know you guys drilled right in and my instinct is to pull back. So

[26:11] you told me you've answered one of my questions typical life cycles 50 years and we're well beyond

[26:17] 50 years. So are we talking about in specifically rainbow lake? Are we talking

[26:23] about rebuilding the dam? Are we talking about dredging it? There were not

[26:29] beginning dredging of the lake itself. The dam will be rebuilt. Okay. In most

[26:34] cases they raise the dam from one to three feet higher. They expand the spillway.

[26:42] the object of a spillway width to accommodate the total maximum value precipitation.

[26:52] Got it.

[26:52] Which is now considered basically your annual rainfall in a 24-hour period.

[27:00] Got it.

[27:00] So more impervious cover upstream would cause more water to come downstream and what's got

[27:08] What this, I understood you correctly, an urgent matter is the development that now sits

[27:16] what used to be a field now development that sits down south of these.

[27:21] Most of the down, where all of the downstream is in heat, the city of heat, and there's,

[27:27] of course, there's a golf course down there and lots of homes.

[27:31] There has been a breach analysis that was done on this lake back in, I believe it was 15 or 16, they did a breach analysis on it, and of course there's been more development, a lot more development even taking place since then.

[27:48] So a new, that would be part of the process of design.

[27:54] and they will do a new breach analysis on that site.

[27:57] It'll be all part of that.

[27:59] And the cost of doing the design and all that

[28:04] is all paid for through the federal government.

[28:09] There's no this application.

[28:12] There's no obligation to the county.

[28:15] You're not tied to anything other than just signing it.

[28:20] Just let us have the money, please,

[28:22] is what we're signing.

[28:24] I mean, I'm gonna tell you that this is not a fast process.

[28:29] We're going through one of these in Kauffman County that has been ongoing since 2016.

[28:35] And we are fixing the right to contract on it now.

[28:39] That is lightning speed for the federal government.

[28:43] It has been a nightmare for me, but

[28:48] when you put the federal dollar into it, there's-

[28:52] uh... uh... understood for people that have worked outside of government

[28:57] that that's a major frustration of white white can't we just do it

[29:01] the one on rock wall like that is all state money

[29:06] we did that from the start

[29:08] to finish the design we did that less than two years

[29:12] but when you put federal dollar in it

[29:16] doubles or quadruples that

[29:18] got it you need the court to sign that application today or are you leaving that

[29:23] with us to get prepared to sign it. I can do it either way I would like to say I've got six

[29:28] copies and I need all six of them signed and the county can keep one but I need five of them back.

[29:35] But you said that we need the attorneys opinion on it. Not on this application. Okay. Okay. That would be on the

[29:44] There's no big, big hurry on that.

[29:47] We've been through this before on Wallace Lake.

[29:50] Yeah, and that was going to be my question.

[29:52] So the status of these three applications,

[29:54] do we have all three up today?

[29:56] Just the one for Rainbow Lake.

[29:57] Just Rainbow Lake.

[29:59] Yeah.

[30:00] So Laughlin appears to be state money, if I'm reading it correctly. The only thing that you're going to ask for Laughlin today is to fix the riser that's in that ticker lake for approximately $15,000. So there is no state or federal money. It's just local money there. But what we do need though, Craig, is I know you're already and researching that that

[30:31] our outside council.

[30:34] Absolutely.

[30:36] Last time we fell into sort of a difficult hole with the attorney's opinion letter and

[30:41] whether or not the easements had been granted and that turned out to be a much bigger project

[30:46] than we ever assumed.

[30:48] So is it too soon for us to begin that opinion process?

[30:55] I would start it is because it's that's not an overnight process. It is not go ahead and get that done

[31:01] And that's just that's just one of the hoops that we'll we'll already have

[31:07] Because there will be more coming if this application gets approved by the feds

[31:13] There'll be a lot more coming others than this, but this is just one of them if we can get that done

[31:23] would be great. I'm wondering how much time I mean it would be optimal if we could get an

[31:28] attorneys letter on all 30 lakes in Rockwell County. How quickly would we need this for

[31:36] Rainbow Lake? There's no there's not a urgent. Okay. All right. No, there's not. We get it done

[31:43] in the next year would be fine and we have some assurance there is some

[31:52] budgeted money that I'm told of today that could help in these costs but we

[31:59] also you know if we need to look for some state monies then they've agreed

[32:07] to fund us. There is there is stake money available for Rockwall Lake, but since this application

[32:17] has not been accepted or approved yet, I don't know that there is money for Rainbow

[32:23] at this point. Okay. Okay. I would just prefer that the court take action to assign this

[32:30] application so that so that we can enter it into your minutes that that's what

[32:35] your your act that your procedures will follow is that okay does it need to be

[32:43] is there a time frame on when we sign this application sooner we sign it

[32:49] the sooner it will go in and start the process but no it doesn't it does not

[32:53] have to be signed today okay not my only reason for not signing is we want to

[32:59] produce a complete application and then forward that and so that we know that

[33:07] everything is done and we get assurance from NRCS that everything looks

[33:12] right and this is going to be our application to the federal government.

[33:17] So the Tatch and the EAP and all this other to it yeah that would be that would be

[33:26] great to that just to add but my mic is another check mark on their list yeah so what what I'm

[33:32] going to suggest we do is is like Commissioner Bailey insinuated fill out the application let's bring

[33:38] it to the next court yes sir once it's complete then we'll vote on signing it because like like you I

[33:43] have a little little trouble signing a blank application but there this is laying in front of all do we

[33:52] Y'all sign this or is it just you?

[33:53] That's me, the judge, that's why I thought, okay.

[33:56] Yeah, of course, I would want to.

[33:57] I was wondering.

[33:58] Yeah, I would want the courts.

[33:59] The top you have the courts.

[34:00] Yeah, we can have the courts.

[34:02] So there's the matter of the $15,000 to increase the,

[34:07] yeah, we're fixing to go to that one.

[34:09] Yeah, okay, I didn't mean to jump ahead.

[34:10] Yeah.

[34:11] I knew we were trying to spend some money today.

[34:15] So that's kind of given us that other question.

[34:18] Oh, yes, sir.

[34:19] And to the extent that you need my consent, you don't, but I would agree with with putting this off until a future court date,

[34:28] but I would also plant the seed that we may want to discuss at that time hiring our land attorney, rehiring our land attorney to obtain that written legal opinion that they require as part of the contract.

[34:40] Wonderful.

[34:41] Thank you.

[34:42] And so now, let's talk about Loughlin Lake.

[34:47] Loughlin Lake, first four collateral, six A.

[34:53] This is located on FM 549, just east of 205.

[35:01] We've had major, major problems with this lake over the past years.

[35:10] Mainly it's been beaver problems.

[35:12] beaver save just me up over there I can clean this thing off y'all have some

[35:18] pictures in there some before and after pictures and those were taking this

[35:22] spring the county helped us the road and bridge went down there and with a

[35:30] next invader and cleaned it off for us cleaned the mud off of it well I had it

[35:37] cleaned off a month before that and they built it back that quit they I mean

[35:42] and there's no way to get rid of the beavers.

[35:49] Beavers, you can get rid of them and they're right back.

[35:52] There's no, the only thing we have come up with

[35:57] is to eliminate their building materials.

[36:02] What we were suggesting is we're gonna go in there

[36:05] and around the one that's cleaned off,

[36:09] where you can see that riser,

[36:10] We're going to pour a concrete slab around that.

[36:14] This riser is not the typical riser that most of the other sites have.

[36:19] This one just has a pipe that sticks out of the ground and water flows into it.

[36:27] What we came up with, and I've talked to the NRCS engineers about this and they kind

[36:33] of all agree with us, we're going to pour concrete slab around that inlet level with the

[36:38] top of it and then we're going to put rip wrap rock out around that to eliminate the beavers

[36:47] being able to just grab the mud and pile it right there. We don't think that they will cross

[36:52] over that rock in the concrete with the materials. Normally what they do is just grab that mud and push

[37:00] it like this up and they just keep pushing until you see what they did to it. We have a couple

[37:08] of bids for the concrete in the rock work. One was $15,000 to $15,000. The other was $15,700.

[37:21] We also have a bid to rebuild the new debris guard to go over it at $2,500.

[37:33] So Mr. Cantrell, these bids look like they were sent to you, and I'm not familiar with

[37:38] the people have we vetted on have we used them before is this I have not we have used

[37:44] the district has used this Mason right we use them several years ago to replace a couple

[37:50] of tail section pipes on some dams the this other one is KB we have not used them there's

[38:02] one of our directors was for me or with him and he said that they do excellent work also.

[38:08] I think that either one of them would be capable of doing the job

[38:12] and they have the the equipment and the manpower to do it with.

[38:19] And it looks like we have a third bed for some welding.

[38:22] Yeah that's for to build a new debris guard.

[38:31] It's just a metal cage that goes over to keep debris from getting in, stopping the

[38:39] pipe up.

[38:40] The one that's there now will not suffice to do what we need for it to do, but we're

[38:46] going to build a new one, and it will be, we're going to have it, it would be hot-dipped

[38:51] galvanized also so it's a last or a long time and that's included in this cost of 1,500 so there's

[38:59] minimal difference between the two beds that came in so would you have a recommendation our board

[39:07] recommended using the KB outdoor services beyond that they are not tied to really either one of them

[39:18] I'd be up to your discretion if you wanted to decide on which one you wanted.

[39:25] Now, I understand the funding for this.

[39:29] We had talked about, I know there's a set number of dollars that is set aside for each

[39:35] side in the county.

[39:37] There's 28 sites in Rockwell County and from I understand over $2,500 that aside for each

[39:45] site.

[39:45] I

[39:49] talked to Mr. Baylor about this, and we first talked about, well, it might be

[39:54] could pull some money from these other sites that we don't really use that much

[39:58] money on other than just basically mowing them. It's about all we dig to them. Pull

[40:04] that money in, but now he's telling me that we can't do that. Is that true or not?

[40:10] Don't tell her. Yeah, you weren't supposed to divulge the game plan there, Mr.

[40:16] I can't trail that was up, but you know, I'm sure that there could be only X

[40:23] number of dollars allocated per lake in there, but there is money set aside in this particular budget.

[40:36] We have unspent, not only next year, correct me if I'm wrong, we've allocated 190,000 for 2024,

[40:45] 24 but we have on spent money as we sit here under soil conservation that we could use and vote on.

[40:53] I think 24 we have a 200,000 and 23 we have the 190 and yes it's in road bridge funds so there are funds available for you.

[41:04] and but now as to the completion of the job would probably be in 2024 so it's

[41:18] not something that we could you know cut your check on right now. We would like

[41:24] to get this done as soon as possible before the rainy season comes we have it

[41:30] Currently I have the lake drained all but just a little small hole of water in it

[41:37] We had set up a siphon pipe on it to rain it down because we couldn't get it to drain through the normal

[41:44] Rainage so we've got it down right now and it's dry and we'd like to try to get it done before it

[41:50] Why couldn't we why couldn't we go ahead and do it?

[41:52] I mean if we we got the money and lakes drained and the beavers are yeah beavers are quiet right

[41:59] The papers are quiet.

[42:01] So if you do it as long as it's down before September 30th,

[42:06] we'd apply it to FY 23.

[42:09] They can't get the work done judge before the end of our calendar.

[42:15] I don't know if we could or not be honest.

[42:18] I'd have to talk about that.

[42:19] But we can, if you could produce a contract with these people

[42:24] Council to our legal council and get that drawn up for Rockwell County to enter into.

[42:36] Let me ask for a question, would it be easier for the district to pay this contractor and

[42:48] And then the district bill, the county, would that be easier than going?

[42:56] I would still apply it to whatever year you finish the work in.

[43:00] So if you can finish the work on-

[43:02] If I could say to you an invoice before September 30th or by the set of September 30th-

[43:07] As long as the work-

[43:07] With the work being done, then that would be ideal.

[43:11] That way we've got the money in this budget and we could spend it.

[43:15] Let me get with- we can do that.

[43:17] Isn't that court date 926 for us to actually do the approval of the expenditures?

[43:23] Can't we if if we don't spend it? It's earmarked for a certain thing. I mean it it's there next year

[43:31] Well back in the conservation for next year. No, it stays there. We've got it budgeted

[43:35] So even if we don't get it this year, the money's there next year

[43:43] Yeah, we're we're not gonna not pay you

[43:47] coming out of the $24 budget.

[43:48] I will, you have a preference on one of these contractors.

[43:56] I would, my personal opinion, I would follow your recommendation.

[44:02] So we would then want to approve something in the neighborhood of $17,915.

[44:11] $17,950.

[44:17] Let's call it at least $18,000, I would be good with that.

[44:25] So it would be my motion then to allow the sole conservation folks to enter into a contract

[44:41] with KB Outdoor Services for the vintage and wise welding and the wise

[44:57] welding.

[45:00] $2,500 bid that we would approve spending up to $18,000. I'll get with the contractor. $18,000. Let's just do $18.5. Let's have an auction. Let's do $19. I'm going to stop the auction and say we're sold at $18.5. Will that be included in your motion? Okay. What? My motion is $18,000.

[45:29] Yeah, we would authorize the expenses of

[45:33] $18,500

[45:37] for the work to be done on Laughlin Lake 6A

[45:44] Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey second by Commissioner Macklick. Are there any further questions or comments?

[45:50] We do want this to come out of our soil conservation line item is where the funding is coming from just to clarify

[46:01] I didn't. I just wanted to make sure that I understand things correctly that we're authorizing the so-called conservation district to contract.

[46:09] Correct. We're going to be reimbursing upon receiving an invoice.

[46:14] So, I normally endorse quarterly anyway for the work that we do, but I can do it especially indoors.

[46:25] Thank you.

[46:26] And then we will bring back to the court on the September 26 agenda, action to appropriate

[46:38] the rainbow lake application to the federal government.

[46:46] Got it.

[46:47] All right, so on the table. We have a motion by Commissioner Bailey. We have a second by Commissioner Macklick all those in favor say hi

[46:52] Hi, any opposed it passes unanimously. Thank you, Mr. Cantrell

[47:09] Springs is to agenda item number four discuss and act on approving the ordinance regulating junkyards an automotive wrecking and salvage

[47:15] charge located in the unincorporated areas of Rockwell County and all related issues, Commissioner Stacey.

[47:20] All right. This is time number three that this has been before us. We proposed it. We had a public hearing.

[47:26] And now here we are after the public hearing to vote on it. The only thing that I would add,

[47:32] I don't know if anyone has any questions. It's updating our ordinances to new state law.

[47:38] But I was going to ask Desiree on the motion. We wanted to go ahead and make a motion that we

[47:42] He got rid of the old ones just so it's completely clear in the record that it's a replacement.

[47:48] This isn't in addition to the new junkyards.

[47:51] I was going to ask you exactly how I was just going to make a motion that we approved this

[47:56] in sight that it replaces all other junkyard ordinances.

[48:03] I didn't know exactly how.

[48:04] Yeah, that works just something along the lines of after you make the motion for this ordinance to be approved,

[48:09] that the court also recognizes that it supersedes all previous orders or ordinances addressing

[48:16] scrap yard and salvage yards.

[48:17] Yeah, so I'm going to go ahead and make a motion that we approve this ordinance and

[48:22] that if approved it would replace all ordinances that pertain to junk yards, automotive, wrecking

[48:28] and salvage yards in the county.

[48:30] Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, second by Commissioner Severe, any further comments?

[48:35] All those in favor say aye.

[48:36] Aye.

[48:37] Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Thank you for the work on that. This brings us to Agenda Item number five. Discuss an act on naming

[48:46] Royal County Sesquic Quint Centennial Plaza. I'll never say that again and all related issues, Commissioner Stacey.

[48:55] So I'm going to give a real brief thing of what we're trying to do and then I'm going to go ahead and pull the Agenda Item for a future agenda.

[49:03] And we are looking at burying a time capsule, that is that we mean the historic commission,

[49:09] burying a time capsule for our 150 year anniversary of Rockwell County.

[49:13] We want to bury it in this plaza at the courthouse, and so we thought it might be a nice idea

[49:19] to name it so no one forgot what we did.

[49:23] And you know, in 50, 60 years they go, what is this box, you know?

[49:28] But after talking to Commissioner Severe, I want to pull this item and come up with an actual policy on how we name things in the county before this court starts naming things in the county.

[49:40] So with that, I just wanted to give a brief. It will probably come back fairly quickly. So I'm going to go ahead and pull this item with that thought.

[49:46] But the idea is that we do want to bury a time capsule before the end of the year in there. The historic commission is working on it very diligently.

[49:54] There is funding in their budget for it, so it's all something that's going forward and it will be done by the end of the year.

[50:00] We just thought naming it after the 150-year anniversary would work out nice.

[50:04] This name that I cannot pronounce either was come up by Todd Williams, so you can blame him for that.

[50:09] I'm going to promote a three-syllable maximum.

[50:14] So with that, I'll go ahead and pull that and just know that that's the reason this was here.

[50:18] and that we're going to come up with a policy on how we name and moralize things into the future,

[50:23] and you'll see this again in the near future.

[50:25] Wonderful. Thank you very much.

[50:27] That takes us to agenda item number six.

[50:29] Discussing act on updates and progress related to the courthouse courtroom additions,

[50:33] third floor project, and all related issues, commissioner severe.

[50:37] I was just going to ask, did we get anything back from HDR?

[50:40] I do not have anything from HDR other than if you look at items number 25 on today's agenda,

[50:47] There's a contract for you to that's for upstairs. Right. We haven't got anything other than that. I know the top of graphical agreement. We've

[50:57] signed or we signed in today for the

[50:59] Park Hill to be doing

[51:01] No, wait, no, that's a different project. It's a different thing. We've got a lot of project. I look over at Michael

[51:07] And I was like, wait, wrong guy. That's totally different. Yeah, nothing nothing. Sorry. Okay. All right. Well, let's we'll just wait. Oh, here comes Barry

[51:28] Thank you. They'll have to wait till a little further in the agenda for

[51:39] funding the

[51:39] project completely.

[51:43] I understood, yeah, until we finalize the budget and it's voted

[51:46] on in the inkstry. The jury rooms, we do have them working

[51:51] on that about the jury rooms in the the acoustical that was they're doing a

[51:59] study on that for the court.

[52:06] Wonderful. Thank you, Barry. All right, so that's all

[52:09] we got. We'll move on to agenda item number seven. Discussing act on turning off

[52:13] non-essential lights to the county courthouse from September 6th, 2023, between

[52:19] to 6 a.m. until the end of the migration period of October 29th, 2023 and all related issues commissioner severe.

[52:28] Yes, I put this back on the agenda we had done this already once this year passed on the information that we had that I had had before.

[52:39] Just bringing it back to court to find out if this is something that we want to do for the short time period is to.

[52:46] I'm in favor of it but can we catch it before it starts and we keep coming in the middle but I mean it's

[52:52] You can only catch it in time when they put in to do it. No, I know I'm with you

[52:57] But but yeah, no, I think this is a good idea. But anyways, I was just

[53:01] I went to bird wrecks don't want to bird wrecks quick question

[53:05] Is this for both this facility as well as the county on yellow jacket lane?

[53:10] Just show just show jacket. Okay. All right. Just yellow jacket. Yeah, they're I mean what would be the sense if we did it here

[53:18] But they don't do any of the lights downtown because the city is not involved in this. This is only a county project

[53:23] It was my next question. Is there been any other? No, no, they

[53:28] Disappear. Yeah, I'm not that I'm aware of that the lady has told me

[53:33] so that's why

[53:35] Before when we talked to Barry and I talked to the sheriff about it

[53:39] it seemed to be okay on the upper part of the lights and that we still have some

[53:43] of the lights on on the bottom but we cannot do a total blackout because

[53:48] nobody else agrees so we're just trying to do our part of that blackout in

[53:53] that bigger area higher area than anywhere else right so I was I mean so as far

[54:00] as the football stadium they won't be during games they will not be turning

[54:04] their lights out and they will be sure can't very well play football and they

[54:07] leave those lights on and not only just for football they have soccer there and all kinds

[54:11] of other things so they stay on late at night too.

[54:13] And this is the courthouse and does it include the library?

[54:16] The courthouse.

[54:17] Just the courthouse.

[54:18] Okay.

[54:19] Because of the rotunda.

[54:21] Mm-hmm.

[54:23] Got it.

[54:23] Well, while it's not 100% coverage, any little bit helps.

[54:27] Right.

[54:27] So, I would be in support of it and I would be surprised if the City of Heath isn't doing

[54:33] something.

[54:34] And I know they're realized they can't become dark sky compliant.

[54:40] No one can, we're too close to Dallas.

[54:42] I mean, there's too much light pollution that comes from Dallas to get the readings you need,

[54:46] but every little bit helps.

[54:49] So I would be in support of this.

[54:52] So I'd like to make a motion that we turn off the non-essential lights at the County Courthouse from September 6th, 2023,

[55:00] between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. until the end of the migration period at October 29th, 2023.

[55:09] Got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

[55:11] I'll second.

[55:11] Second by Commissioner Stacey.

[55:13] Any further questions or comments?

[55:14] All those in favor say aye.

[55:16] Aye.

[55:16] Any opposed?

[55:17] Aye.

[55:18] Got four in support, one in opposition.

[55:22] All right.

[55:23] That brings us to agenda item number eight.

[55:25] Discussing act on a public hearing.

[55:26] Notice zoning request to be held by the City of McClendon Chisholm

[55:29] all related issues. Commissioners, this is something that landed on my desk and I found myself just

[55:38] pulling it up and filling it out on behalf of the county and almost signing it and then realized I

[55:44] don't own the county. I should probably bring it to the commissioners and see what our thoughts are.

[55:51] this is a zoning request the county owns some land on 205 that's within the

[55:59] notification zone and in your packet you will see you're looking at it right on

[56:07] Wallace Road track 21274 belongs to the county that's why we received notification

[56:13] the people across the street Wallace 11417 are wanting to put in

[56:23] some self-storage units and then break this up into some three acre plants. So it is

[56:33] compliant with McClendon Chisholm. However, the applicant is doing this via a PD, a planned

[56:42] development, not doing it just a straight plant. So my thoughts where we just send this in

[56:48] and say we can do whatever you guys want, say we're neutral on it, we're in favor of it,

[56:55] we're opposed to it. My reason for wanting to send it in is I know the cities send these

[57:02] out and someone that said on the City Council for so long always baffled when you just don't

[57:09] get them back. So whichever way the court wants to go on, I just want to get something back

[57:16] to McClendon Chisholm that says, yes, we got it. Here's our recommendation.

[57:23] I would be in favor of doing something neutral. It is their city. If you feel

[57:27] that it's necessary to turn it in, I do understand that mindset a little bit,

[57:33] but it doesn't bother me if we don't. It doesn't bother me to send it in neutral.

[57:38] And Frank, I'm sorry. You said the county owns one of these. Yes, yes, yes. So if you look

[57:44] radio time radio that's that was where I was going what was our purpose of that

[57:48] purchasing that you know teller league and remake of 2005 yep yeah nice nice

[57:57] little track a land there um so yeah I I would be okay just saying we're we're

[58:04] neutral we received it we appreciate your sin and us notice and that would be

[58:09] certainly my opinion because when that really kind of teeter is on

[58:20] oversight by

[58:22] government it can be it can be interpreted that way of the county and so local

[58:29] control must be local control yes and so you know if they want to do that they

[58:38] can get it okay and everything let's reverse that when we wanted to put the radio tower

[58:47] where it sits now on that land after we bought it we got pushed back so and it was pushed back

[58:55] from the surrounding area which that's the way it's supposed to be the city and the residents there

[59:00] that's why I feel the same as you what kind of neutral here because we're not in we we're you run

[59:07] your own government. You objected it for us and you do it whatever way you want to see it here.

[59:13] I feel the same way you guys are. I don't key with. Yep so I'm going to go ahead and make a

[59:19] motion that the court allow me to fill this out expressing a neutral opinion that we are neither

[59:26] in favor or opposed but appreciate being notified.

[59:34] We go a little bit further though and apparently

[59:42] the

[59:42] answers, no. All right, so what did you say? I will support your proceeding. Is that

[59:53] a second to my motion? That would be a second. Okay, so we have my motion. We have a second

[59:58] by Commissioner Bailey. Any further comments?

[1:00:00] Any comments? All those in favor say aye? Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. It brings us to agenda item number nine. Discuss and act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the Plan to County Annex Project and all related issues. Vents. I didn't, I see I cut out for efficiency sake. I didn't even say Lisa before I said Vents. I just said Vents. You have a number of people that you could point to. It just happened to me my day.

[1:00:28] Okay, Michael is here with the design builder, and he's going to present the current conceptual

[1:00:34] plan.

[1:00:35] This is to address what the court requested last time, and I will turn it over to Michael.

[1:00:42] Morning, Michael Howard with Park Hill.

[1:00:45] Here to present to you the current iteration of our space programming plan.

[1:00:51] I believe the last time we presented to the court, you gave us direction to proceed, but what

[1:00:55] what we were calling option three, which was a single story, 24,000 square foot structure.

[1:01:01] And at that time, we had a space blocked out for shell space or expansion space.

[1:01:08] We've received further direction from the Judge and Commissioner Stacey to look at reallocating

[1:01:12] that space to allow for expanding the other program spaces.

[1:01:16] So this new floor plan or space blocking plan removes the shell space that leads the square footage in the building.

[1:01:22] and what we've done is reallocated that space to allow for a little more room in the other departments and uses throughout the building.

[1:01:32] So essentially all the departments got a little bit more room.

[1:01:36] We also expanded the records and storage area just to allow for your ability to have more flexibility with layout and expansion into the future for potential staffing growth.

[1:01:49] Site plan did not change. It's still a 24,000 square foot single story building.

[1:01:54] We did kind of modify the footprint slightly, but we still don't have concerns about any of the easements setbacks or fire lane requirements.

[1:02:03] So no substantial changes to the site plan.

[1:02:06] We did modify the exterior rendering because we have made the decision to proceed with a tilt wall construction.

[1:02:12] And so that does change the nature of the envelope and the way that we'll be able to put materials on the exterior of the building.

[1:02:20] So it doesn't substantially change the appearance, but it is slightly different due to the tilt wall nature.

[1:02:31] And that's it. So happy to answer any questions about any of the changes.

[1:02:36] Actually, just real quickly, just so you're aware of next steps.

[1:02:40] We feel like we're ready to proceed into the next phase of design, which is schematic design.

[1:02:46] We'll get to give you more detail on this specific room-by-room layout of the building.

[1:02:49] So in our mind, if we need direction from today that we're ready to stop space

[1:02:54] programming and move into schematic design, we can provide more detailed layouts.

[1:03:00] Can you go over real quick?

[1:03:02] And I realize you're probably not prepared dollar amount for this.

[1:03:06] Has we're looking at at least range of dollar amount?

[1:03:09] Well, I'll stop in my head. Nothing's changed since the last time we spoke to you about option three,

[1:03:12] which I believe we said it would be somewhere between 19.5 to 19.9 million.

[1:03:16] Okay, but nothing has substantially changed about the square footage or the design that would impact any of the numbers we've previously presented to you.

[1:03:28] One of the things I would like to request if I could go on forward is at least put in our packet.

[1:03:35] What you're seeing here at least give us a hard copy of this so that I can keep it and make my notes on it as we're talking if you don't mind.

[1:03:41] And that would help me out as you're getting direction from the representatives of us at

[1:03:46] least for the other members on the court, so we can have copies of everything.

[1:03:50] Thank you.

[1:03:53] Any questions?

[1:03:55] Comments?

[1:03:56] The tilt.

[1:03:57] Yeah, tell me one question.

[1:03:58] What was the difference between the tilt pricing and the traditional?

[1:04:04] Traditional.

[1:04:04] Traditional, yeah.

[1:04:05] Do you remember?

[1:04:06] The cost savings is about a half million.

[1:04:08] Half a million.

[1:04:09] Okay.

[1:04:12] Yeah, and just so you know, Court, I've been involved in many construction projects.

[1:04:19] I'm not in construction.

[1:04:20] I'm in commercial flooring, but set in many new construction meetings, been in a bunch

[1:04:26] of tilt wall buildings.

[1:04:28] Yeah, I have no issues with tilt wall construction.

[1:04:31] It saves a little money and typically increases how quick you can put a building up.

[1:04:39] So structurally, once it's built, there's no structural difference.

[1:04:46] And I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, but...

[1:04:48] You can share that, Mike.

[1:04:50] Yeah.

[1:04:53] Yep, so any...

[1:05:04] I'm sorry, I didn't have my mic on.

[1:05:06] Move to approve that.

[1:05:08] Action as it relates to the American Rescue Plan money and the Plan County Annex project.

[1:05:16] So we've got a motion by Commissioner Severe that I believe is approving the schematic that we just saw in going to approve you to go forward from this point.

[1:05:28] So we've got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

[1:05:30] I'll second that motion.

[1:05:31] Got a second by Commissioner Macklic. Any further questions or comments?

[1:05:35] Can you point out on that other place, the other view where the entries are to the building?

[1:05:43] I just see the one down here, so would it be helpful to look at it on the site plan or this view?

[1:05:52] Would you have a lot of the plan in the center you'll see kind of a light yellowish green box that says entry.

[1:05:57] That would be the main entry which faces sort of south or toward the main courthouse.

[1:06:03] There would be a secondary entry that is near the where we're showing the auditors which is on the plan right

[1:06:10] which is actually technically kind of north but that would be a secondary

[1:06:16] entrance that allow access to the multi-purpose room so we would expect that

[1:06:19] multi-purpose room could have enough traffic that it would need a secondary

[1:06:22] entrance especially when you hold elections in that room you're going to have

[1:06:26] that that flow both from the both directions and additional what we would call

[1:06:33] backdoor staff entrances on the other side that are really just for egress

[1:06:37] What about points that staff only are going to need to enter your way for the store.

[1:06:40] You have the overheads and all that all drawn in on the on the elections for the elections.

[1:06:45] They'll need it's in the drawing.

[1:06:47] If you see the the overhead door.

[1:06:50] Yeah, if you go to the drawing, you'll see it right here.

[1:06:52] So, uh, yeah, there you go.

[1:06:55] I see there is.

[1:06:56] It allows for an overhead door for box trucks for elections.

[1:06:59] Right.

[1:07:00] They're equipment.

[1:07:00] So, okay, it's remained and to be fair.

[1:07:03] Also, the tax assessor's office will need box trucks to come in with license plates

[1:07:07] So it's not just elections, but anyways, I just wanted to point that out, it's both of those departments will need that.

[1:07:17] All right, got a motion by Commissioner Severe, a second by Commissioner Mackleck?

[1:07:21] Yes, sir Greg.

[1:07:22] Could I ask one question first, because we may need to amend our motion.

[1:07:26] Mr. Howard, will you need any formal written notice to proceed, or will it be sufficient for you to act on the minutes of the action they're taking today?

[1:07:34] Okay.

[1:07:35] The motion is presented, as all we need to proceed.

[1:07:38] Great.

[1:07:38] Thank you.

[1:07:39] Okay.

[1:07:40] We've got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

[1:07:42] Second by Commissioner Macklee.

[1:07:43] Any further comments?

[1:07:45] All those in favor say aye.

[1:07:46] Aye.

[1:07:47] Any opposed?

[1:07:48] Aye opposed.

[1:07:49] It passes 4 to 1.

[1:07:51] Thank you.

[1:07:54] Brings us to agenda item number 10.

[1:07:58] Discuss and act on approaching approving a local match fund's agreement.

[1:08:02] Effective October 1, 2023 with the North Texas Behavioral Health Authority in the amount

[1:08:09] of $66,064 in all related issues.

[1:08:12] I'm going to send that over to you, Lisa.

[1:08:15] Sir, this is a renewal for our agreement with NTBHA.

[1:08:21] It's the same amount as it was last year, and the money is funded in FY 24.

[1:08:30] I make a motion we approve the local match fund agreement for the North Texas behavioral health authority.

[1:08:37] Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

[1:08:39] Second by Commissioner Severe. Any further comments or questions? All those in favor say aye.

[1:08:43] Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

[1:08:46] Agenda item number 11. Discuss and act on approving the one-year renewal interlocal agreements effective October 1, 2023 with the cities of Rockwall for $65,633.

[1:08:57] Royce City, $88,419, he $15,475, McClendon Chisholm, $127,813, and fate, $72,661 for providing fire protection services to non-incorporated areas within the county and all related issues.

[1:09:18] Lisa, I'm going to kick this to you, but this is essentially what it says.

[1:09:24] This is us paying the city's fire departments to provide fire services in the unincorporated

[1:09:32] areas.

[1:09:34] So it's, while we don't have a fire department, we certainly pay for some portion of a fire

[1:09:40] department out in the county.

[1:09:42] And if I could, if I could, for-

[1:09:45] I think you've got some news for me.

[1:09:47] The author, yeah, Jim had called me the other day and said that we had gone back and

[1:09:57] taken another look at the programs, and I think you've gotten some additional data from

[1:10:06] the cities as well.

[1:10:07] So we have an update to that particular chart that will change the numbers.

[1:10:15] Oh, okay.

[1:10:16] Oh, sure.

[1:10:18] Thank you, Jim.

[1:10:22] You just can't.

[1:10:24] Oh, that's okay.

[1:10:25] Thank you.

[1:10:26] Thank you.

[1:10:27] You're welcome.

[1:10:28] And same, sir.

[1:10:32] And Jim mentioned before for Commissioner Stacey's benefit.

[1:10:38] that since he had raised the question before, we have not done anything in this chart

[1:10:50] to back out any agreements that developers might have with municipalities.

[1:11:02] In the first page you're looking at there, that is correct.

[1:11:05] However, the second page is a rework based on removing all of the muds in our

[1:11:15] unincorporated areas from said calculations. And then the third page which

[1:11:20] quite honestly personally I think is a happy medium between them is only

[1:11:25] removing the active mud which is wildwood slash poetry road mud which has homes

[1:11:33] streets currently going in and such. The other four, if you want to look at your

[1:11:40] screens, commissioners, there are five in total, if this thing can keep up with me.

[1:11:47] Just south of Roy City, you can see Camden Park mud in the third page which is

[1:11:54] active only. The Camden Park is not considered. It's treated like it was last

[1:11:59] year. If we scroll down and we look at the McClennan Chisholm fired district and there are three more

[1:12:08] moths south and west of FM 548, which are also not treated any differently than last year.

[1:12:18] However, you do have wildwood down here, poetry road in McClennan Chisholm that I did remove again in that

[1:12:25] that medium worksheet

[1:12:35] while we sort of reached a silent point here, on the contracts

[1:12:41] that are included in the backup which version of your numbers are reflected in those

[1:12:49] contract agreements.

[1:12:51] I believe that is last year's numbers.

[1:12:52] Those are all last years.

[1:12:53] I believe that's everything that was on the agenda item is last year's what we're currently

[1:12:58] working with FY 23 numbers.

[1:13:00] first. God looking ahead at 24.

[1:13:10] So so I understand I'll be the I'll be the dumb one here. I'm used

[1:13:16] to that spot. When we're talking about we are treating the wildwood utility district

[1:13:24] as one that's already ongoing and so that could affect numbers to which to which city.

[1:13:34] That

[1:13:35] just because of where it's physically located, and to be clear, I handed the commissioners,

[1:13:40] I'm sorry, I didn't have one for you, I handed the commissioners three different options.

[1:13:45] The first option is to keep the status quo with what we have this year, which is agnostic

[1:13:50] to anything mud-related.

[1:13:51] And that's what we're looking at in the contract documents, or the agreement documents

[1:13:55] before us.

[1:13:55] So, if we were to adopt, for instance, the happy medium that you describe on page 3, we would

[1:14:02] actually have to amend the McClendon Chisholm document before it got signed.

[1:14:06] We would have to amend all of them.

[1:14:10] All the numbers change.

[1:14:12] Okay.

[1:14:12] At least the dollar amounts are changing annually.

[1:14:16] Got it.

[1:14:17] But as far as whether a mud is taken out or stays, yes.

[1:14:23] That kind of thing would need potentially changing.

[1:14:26] Got it. Thank you.

[1:14:28] Well, I appreciate the effort. I appreciate you looking at this even though come flying

[1:14:34] low and flying fast and everybody gets to learn how slow of a reader I actually am.

[1:14:39] And quite honestly, I can certainly have a one on one with anyone that has any questions.

[1:14:44] Well, I like the direction and that appears to be the direction that many cities are taking.

[1:14:51] I know we're in the process of reworking other interlocals that cities are saying, hey, we're

[1:14:56] We're not going to serve us inside of my district, the development of the system.

[1:15:00] Allopper is going to have to figure that out on their own. We're no longer going to service them. And that, that would be, this appears to be one way to at least bring to the forefront our conversation with the cities of. Yeah, we're not going to do it. You go contract with them, or they need to solve. They need to solve this issue. You know, I understand where we're going and everything. And I understand the

[1:15:28] mud. And we're none of us up here.

[1:15:31] are fond of the MUDs, but is there not a, and I'm just from a heart I'm speaking now

[1:15:42] instead of from a brain because I'm not, I don't know, I've seen it long enough, is there

[1:15:47] not anything in the law that says that they're within a certain district, you can't, they

[1:15:52] call fire department, say, we're not going to come put you fire out. We're not, we're

[1:15:57] in the police department, you're in a mud, we're not going to come in service, you, that's

[1:16:01] up your home or associates, is there no legal bond that we have?

[1:16:07] I'm not sure I understand the question completely.

[1:16:10] If you take it, if you're saying that you take out for the,

[1:16:14] he just said that McLean and Chisholm wasn't McLean and Chisholm said they're not going to serve.

[1:16:19] So let's use...

[1:16:22] They're not saying they're not going to serve. This is a reimbursement.

[1:16:24] Right.

[1:16:25] No, but he said McLean and Chisholm are unincorporated areas only.

[1:16:29] Right.

[1:16:29] But, McClendon Chisholm is still the primary responder based on location, for this mud in particular, and it's

[1:16:38] my understanding that there is or there will be some sort of an agreement between McClendon Chisholm and this

[1:16:44] mud for the mud to pay McClendon Chisholm for said services. We're attempting to remove that from our

[1:16:53] our daughter dollars and treat it as if it is incorporated when it comes to fire.

[1:16:58] Okay, so I understand.

[1:17:00] So I was thinking we weren't going to end.

[1:17:02] Yeah, just say, hey, you guys are on your own, good luck.

[1:17:05] No, so it's incumbent upon us, when the developer comes to us to plant, who's going to be the police,

[1:17:12] who's going to be the fire, who's going to be the ambulance, who's going to be the animal control,

[1:17:17] who's going to take care of all of these services, you've essentially built a city,

[1:17:20] who's going to do your city services so I think that yeah but it's dangerous

[1:17:32] I was going to say I mean when you're looking at the dollar amount from what

[1:17:39] you call you know only active muds to all muds it's almost negligible I think

[1:17:49] same time if if there were some sort of action in the ETJ with that mud not

[1:17:57] being active there really isn't any reimbursement for like the city of Roy

[1:18:01] City and Camden Park. So I do think that sticking with an active mud is probably

[1:18:07] a good policy for us kind of going forward because if it's not a real active

[1:18:12] mud it really is just a land that all these fire departments would have to

[1:18:16] respond to, a wildfire of some sort, with no mechanism of reimbursement.

[1:18:20] So I do like that approach of keeping it with active muds and then keeping our eye on

[1:18:26] when these muds become dormant, when they become active, and then making sure that there

[1:18:30] are reimbursements that are done in that.

[1:18:34] So I like that direction of where you went with this.

[1:18:37] And that's the driving force behind it, is right now there are no participation by these

[1:18:46] developers, and I'm not sure of all, but of these developers into assisting in fire

[1:18:58] procedures during a particular counter-year.

[1:19:02] Now, there are some that are fixing to be developed that are talking about, hey, we want

[1:19:12] to hire your fire department to do that.

[1:19:17] So not knowing of any interlocal agreements between these cities and the developers, we have

[1:19:32] Hey, under our normal circumstances, but we are prepared to adjust this, and I mean,

[1:19:43] it's probably a matter of 10 seconds for Jim to come back and say, tell me the number

[1:19:51] that you're going to reimburse you.

[1:19:52] It is a rather quick once I have this process, once we confirm how we're going to do this,

[1:19:57] to adjust the numbers is top in a number and a spreadsheet and it calculates for me.

[1:20:03] I will say that this agreement is an annual agreement, so perhaps we just plan to do this

[1:20:10] as we have this year where it's just budget time and it's time to do it.

[1:20:15] That's exactly what I was thinking, make us sweep through the county and see who's.

[1:20:20] Have y'all talked to the lawyer that you've hired regarding muds about this issue?

[1:20:27] you?

[1:20:28] Have not.

[1:20:29] Okay.

[1:20:29] It might be a, I mean, you've hired that person to look at these issues.

[1:20:33] You might ask them specifically about this.

[1:20:36] That would be a good question.

[1:20:38] So I'll echo, I like where we're going, I'm going to recommend that we go ahead and stick

[1:20:42] with the dollar amounts that we already have on the agenda that's based on last year's,

[1:20:48] even though we're going to overpay someone slightly.

[1:20:55] I think it's the fair thing to do and then before this comes up next year again we'll

[1:21:00] make a sweep through the county and new data and new that's absolutely correct.

[1:21:07] So with that being said, I'm going to go ahead, do you have a question?

[1:21:13] No.

[1:21:15] So I'm going to go ahead and make the motion that we approve the one-year renewal interlocal

[1:21:21] agreement's effective October 1 with the cities of Rockwall, Roy City, Heath, McClendon,

[1:21:26] Chisholm, and Fate providing fire protection services to the non-incorporated areas within

[1:21:31] the county.

[1:21:34] So, that is my motion.

[1:21:36] I want a second term motion, but are we using the figures provided by Jim that have all

[1:21:44] muds included, rather than the ones in the agenda, just so that we can.

[1:21:48] My motion is the ones in the agenda.

[1:21:50] The the ones that I read into the record when we got to this agenda item I

[1:21:55] Just trying to clarify. Yes, sir. Okay. I will second that okay. Yeah, my motion the second by commissioner

[1:22:00] Stacy any further questions or comments all those in favor say I I

[1:22:04] Any opposed it passes unanimously agenda item agenda item 12 discussing act on approving a one-year contract renewal effective

[1:22:12] October 1, 2023 with medic rescue ink to provide

[1:22:16] My transportation of human remains to the medical examiner's office at a cost of $425 per

[1:22:23] deceased and all related issues.

[1:22:26] This is part of rock walled medics contract that we approve annually, I believe, and I

[1:22:33] don't think the amount has changed.

[1:22:36] And if anybody can do this cheaper, I can tell you Mitch would love for somebody else to

[1:22:41] do this job instead of the ambulance.

[1:22:43] but contractually we require them to do it so it is what it is. I was a little

[1:22:52] surprised when I asked you know how many you're actually doing I was surprised

[1:22:58] that you know doing three four or five a month so it's not an insignificant

[1:23:05] amount. And just to clarify for the public or anyone that's listening that the

[1:23:12] The transportation happens when a JP performs an inquest and then decides to send the body in for an autopsy.

[1:23:20] This is just not any deceased.

[1:23:23] They're transporting for the county. This is only when they're sent to the Dallas or the medical examiner's office.

[1:23:31] No, I appreciate that clarification. I'll make a motion that we approve the one-year contract renewal for a medical rescue to provide transportation for human remains to the medical examiner's office.

[1:23:41] I got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, second by Commissioner Bailey. Any further questions or comments? All those in favor say aye

[1:23:47] Aye. Any opposed it passes unanimously

[1:23:51] Agenda item 13 discussing act on approving a one-year contract renewal effective October 1, 2023 with medic rescue ink to provide

[1:23:58] Transportation of persons to mental health facilities pursuant to chapters 573 and 574 of the Texas Health and Safety Code at the current

[1:24:08] Medicaid slash Medicare rates in all related issues. This is a very similar to agenda item 12. This is something we have to approve annually and again our ambulance service would love for somebody else to do it, but we require them contractually to do it.

[1:24:27] Move your proof. Got a motion by Commissioner Severe. Second by Commissioner Bailey. All those in favor say aye aye any opposed. It passes unanimously

[1:24:36] Springs us to agenda item 14 discuss and act on setting the daily rate for jury duty pay pursuant to hb 3474 and all related issues

[1:24:46] I'm going to kick that over to you because we also discuss a little bit of changing the way we physically pay people

[1:24:53] That's true judge. Thank you

[1:24:54] I'll tackle the first part, if Treasurer Peake wants to talk about the distribution of the money that's his office.

[1:25:06] But the jury pay, the state enacted and approved and put into September 1st, this started that the county shall pay $20 for the first day of a juror.

[1:25:24] in attendance for jury duty and then the second day and every day thereafter is $58.

[1:25:32] They will reimburse us $14 for the first day and then $52 of each day thereafter.

[1:25:44] So the House bill that put this into action also states that you can go higher than this

[1:25:53] rate if you choose to but you can't choose to go lower than this set jury pay.

[1:26:00] What Rockwell County has had in place through August 31st was $6 for the first day and

[1:26:07] $40 for the second day and the state was reimbursed in as $32 for the second day.

[1:26:14] So the states actually reimbursed in quite a bit more than they had even though the rates

[1:26:19] have gone up.

[1:26:20] We did put the extra funding in FY24 because we were made aware of this earlier by the District Clerk that this would be coming into play.

[1:26:31] And so the judge put extra funding in each of the four courtrooms.

[1:26:38] This is budget in our current 24 budget.

[1:26:42] Each courtroom has acted in, paying jurors more.

[1:26:47] Lisa, I have a question for you on the second page of the draft.

[1:26:52] It does talk about the $14 a day for the reimbursement, but in the very last of that sentence

[1:26:58] of that section it says in the process of court for the first day or a fraction of the

[1:27:04] first day in attendance in court in response to the process and $34 and then it just ends

[1:27:10] because then it says number two, $52 a day for the reimbursement paid under 61.001.

[1:27:26] Okay,

[1:27:29] so I've $14 and then the...

[1:27:43] Okay, okay.

[1:27:50] Okay,

[1:27:56] 34 was what that was. Okay, very good. Thank you.

[1:28:01] Okay,

[1:28:05] a fairly benign unfunded mandate is what we have here on a gender item 14.

[1:28:12] I'll make a motion then that we that we approve the setting the daily rate for the jury duty pay pursuant to House Bill 3474.

[1:28:20] I've got a motion by Commissioner McLeod.

[1:28:23] I'll second.

[1:28:23] Second by Commissioner Stacey. All those in favor say aye.

[1:28:27] Aye.

[1:28:28] Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

[1:28:30] It brings us to agenda item 15, discuss and act on approving an estimate from phone works to provide concrete repair services at the county library at a cost of $7,456.

[1:28:41] $1.76, Mr. Compton.

[1:28:45] So these are just trip hazards we've identified around the walking area of the library.

[1:28:49] We try to jump on these to prevent trips and falls.

[1:28:54] This is a less invasive process than tearing out concrete and

[1:28:59] re-pouring it and carries a better warranty.

[1:29:02] I'm asking that this be funded from the facilities improvement budget,

[1:29:08] is that I don't have any money.

[1:29:11] Did you hear?

[1:29:13] Barry, we used phone works before.

[1:29:15] Yes, sir.

[1:29:16] And just for my education, I understand how it works.

[1:29:20] Is this ever used out in more heavy duty?

[1:29:23] Can this be used out in a road?

[1:29:25] Yes.

[1:29:26] They do this in streets.

[1:29:28] Okay, fascinating.

[1:29:29] They're in heath.

[1:29:32] They can suddenly be in a big cobblestone.

[1:29:35] Okay.

[1:29:38] Yeah, everywhere I've seen it, it's worked. I didn't know if there was any limitations to the to the load. It could withstand, but

[1:29:45] And you went away really quick. Yeah, I don't have any questions about the project. I just have questions about the funding

[1:29:51] So we're talking about funding it in the current budget. Is that what you're asking?

[1:29:57] If their scheduling allows them

[1:30:00] To do the work before September 30, yes, I can't speak to 100% yes, they're going to get it done. Is that? That's correct. I think the facilities at this small amount of money, I think the facilities improvement fund could absorb it, either in this year or next year. Is this something that it's possible that on the next budget, when we were looking at trying to balance everything down, that we could just kind of make it

[1:30:29] make some sort of budget adjustment or is that ship sailed?

[1:30:34] I would prefer the ship to have sailed.

[1:30:36] Okay, I'm just asking.

[1:30:40] So we have a motion by Commissioner Severe.

[1:30:43] Is there a second out there?

[1:30:46] I'm going to go ahead and second it.

[1:30:48] Any further questions or comments?

[1:30:51] So we've got Commissioner Severe's motion.

[1:30:53] My second, all those in favor say aye.

[1:30:55] Aye.

[1:30:55] Any opposed?

[1:30:56] It passes unanimously.

[1:30:57] brings us to agenda item 16, discuss and act on approving a one-year renewal service agreement with house warmers for the Veterans Service Office at a cost of $900 in all related issues.

[1:31:09] This is just what it says court and so I emailed Linda Flannery, our Veterans Services Administrator, and ask is this us putting notification in of the services that we offer to veterans.

[1:31:27] to everybody that moves in to Rockwell County.

[1:31:31] She said, yes it is.

[1:31:32] Plus we can put in brochures, contact information.

[1:31:36] So it's just an outreach to let any veterans

[1:31:38] that move here know, hey, we've got services for you.

[1:31:41] We have a whole division, which is Linda at your service here.

[1:31:49] So it truly is just that simple.

[1:31:52] It's a good program.

[1:31:53] I personally do it from precinct two.

[1:31:56] so I think it's a good program. I'll make a motion then that we approve the one-year renewal

[1:32:03] service agreement with HouseWormers for the Veteran Services Office at a cost of $900.

[1:32:08] Okay, got a motion by Commissioner McClick. Second by Commissioner Severe. All those in favor say aye.

[1:32:14] Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Brings us to agenda item 17 discussing act on approving

[1:32:20] county membership with Dallas Regional Mobility Coalition at a fee of $8,992.50 and all related

[1:32:28] issues. I'm going to kick this one to you Lisa. Each one of these different subscriptions

[1:32:34] or memberships I always like to bring it back to the court to make sure that this is still

[1:32:41] in tune with what the court sees as something they want to be involved with. So this Dallas Regional

[1:32:49] mobility coalition membership the funding is there for it is just determined by your action.

[1:32:57] So I just have an educating question from my standpoint. Is this something that also

[1:33:04] because I know we've kind of already it's already in the budget that we've kind of all gone through.

[1:33:08] So these are items that we are approving but is there any way to have a little bit more advanced

[1:33:16] notice of these so that we could review them. Are we taking them out for bid? You know,

[1:33:22] ever so often, like every two to three, four or five years, whatever? Or is this something that's

[1:33:26] just been, you know, renewed every year for a long time? It has been Commissioner, I think Commissioner

[1:33:34] Bailey probably could explain more what Dallas Regional Mobility does for the county.

[1:33:39] And I didn't, I'm not speaking specifically for this one, but to her point of all the next ones

[1:33:43] that are coming up as well.

[1:33:45] And I want to be real careful on how I address this,

[1:33:50] but I think that you are the responsible person

[1:33:55] on the commissioner's court for DRMC.

[1:33:58] For the bike, I know the bike paths I'm doing though,

[1:34:01] but the DRMC, I think that was back in one

[1:34:07] of the original processes that we did.

[1:34:11] OK, OK.

[1:34:12] This has to do with all the Dallas surrounding municipalities, the Garlands and mosquitos and

[1:34:24] Lewis fields and all those areas, they have supported the eastern reach for transportation.

[1:34:36] And Drew Campbell, who is the executive director of that organization, spends a lot of time

[1:34:47] in Austin with the legislative committee.

[1:34:51] And he's been serving

[1:34:55] in that area for 15, 20 years.

[1:35:02] I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but I think that's what had happened.

[1:35:11] happened at that particular time, but speaking to these come sooner, no, they're on an

[1:35:21] annual basis, and it's, you know, do we want to join, you know, or not, to those particular

[1:35:32] projects. There's a lot of things that go on with electric cars.

[1:35:47] It's very fascinating

[1:35:50] to set through some of these transportation, meaning with the DRMC board to work there.

[1:35:57] and there's probably 30, 40 members that are there in that.

[1:36:07] So, I'm not sure I did answer your question.

[1:36:10] Well, okay.

[1:36:12] That's all right.

[1:36:13] There is a,

[1:36:17] I'll certainly get drew to forward you the information.

[1:36:25] Yeah, because I see that you're on the board and that,

[1:36:28] But I don't know that I've received a whole lot of the the bike path. I know I'm getting a lot. Okay, good deal. Okay, very fun.

[1:36:36] Look, I get what you're saying. We will present to you the list of dues that the county pays that a list is out.

[1:36:45] News maintenance agreements, just, you know, the ones that...

[1:36:47] Yeah, I can tell you this time of the year when we're coming up on the end of the budget.

[1:36:53] but there's hardly any way.

[1:36:56] I mean, my goal, and I said, when I was seated here,

[1:36:59] that I want to try to maintain about 15 agenda items,

[1:37:03] outside of executive session in consent and payroll,

[1:37:06] but 15, because that is all you can just about ask

[1:37:10] of the commissioners to take home and get through

[1:37:12] on the weekend and have the questions asked Monday

[1:37:14] and time for court Tuesday.

[1:37:17] I mean, this one, that's, and that's not here.

[1:37:21] this is today's and and it's it's it's too much but this time of year there's

[1:37:29] there's no way around it we're going to be right here next year with one

[1:37:32] that's just as thick because everything comes down to the very last end of the

[1:37:38] budget and and we have to approve approve or not and I'm going to say something

[1:37:46] and probably wished I hadn't of, but there's maybe I shouldn't.

[1:37:58] This would be a great

[1:38:02] place to have a purchasing agent. I mean, no better place to have someone go through

[1:38:14] all, think about all of the maintenance, operational, high-stantial that we were on right

[1:38:24] up to the end, and then we just approved,

[1:38:30] and that's putting a lot of confidence, and

[1:38:34] And I agree that we should allow our directors to be able to make that decision as to who

[1:38:46] they want to represent them in the maintenance of the equipment that they're going to use.

[1:38:53] But you know what?

[1:38:55] Are these all vetted?

[1:39:00] Off a long list.

[1:39:01] It is a big list.

[1:39:03] It is an awful long list.

[1:39:05] and I agree with that. I tend to look at it as kind of buying an insurance policy.

[1:39:13] You know, the maintenance agreements are, if something goes wrong, do we just call one person?

[1:39:18] But do you ever vet your insurance company?

[1:39:24] It is a whole question. I mean, how do they pay their claims? How do they?

[1:39:30] But before I'm not going to fight on that rabbit trail.

[1:39:33] Yes, sir.

[1:39:34] You can be quite over there.

[1:39:35] Leading the crumbs.

[1:39:37] So we have an agenda item in front of us.

[1:39:40] Discuss the act on applying the membership and approval to obtain the membership of the

[1:39:51] DRMC for the following year.

[1:39:53] All right.

[1:39:53] Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey.

[1:39:57] Seconded since I'm supposed to be here.

[1:39:58] I've got a second by Commissioner Macklick.

[1:40:02] All those in favor say aye.

[1:40:03] Aye.

[1:40:04] Any opposed?

[1:40:05] It passes unanimously.

[1:40:06] All right, it's a good time to take a break.

[1:40:09] It is 10.40.

[1:40:12] We're going to take a break till about 10.50.

[1:40:23] Wait for you, Dana.

[1:40:25] No, here's my side.

[1:40:26] Wait for the old man.

[1:40:35] All right, thank you everyone.

[1:40:37] At 10.53, we're going to reconvene the regular meeting.

[1:40:40] And we are on agenda item number 18,

[1:40:42] discussing act on approving a renewal agreement

[1:40:44] with Roy City for dispatch services provided by the Rockwell County Sheriff's Office and an annual

[1:40:50] fee of $120,000 in all related issues. Yes, sir. Sheriff Garrett may be able to speak more

[1:40:58] in depth about the topic. We have always been in an agreement with the for dispatch with Roy City.

[1:41:05] The agreement in the past was I believe $65,000 and this year the annual renewal has gone to

[1:41:13] to $120,000 and Roy City has agreed and this we did put the revenue in the FY24 budget.

[1:41:22] Got it. So this is accounted for in revenue and expenditures on our budget that we're going

[1:41:28] to be voting on shortly. Is there any questions for the sheriff or the auditor?

[1:41:33] No, I move we approve. Got a motion by Commissioner Stacy, second by Commissioner Severe. All those in favor say aye.

[1:41:39] Any opposed that passes unanimously brings us to agenda item 19, discussing act on approving

[1:41:45] a quote from net work sciences ink for document file preparation and delivery of all PDF forms

[1:41:51] and scanned images at a cost of $3,000 in all related issues.

[1:41:58] Our Indigenous Health Department has canceled her network science software agreement.

[1:42:09] This would digitize her documents that she's had with them for the years that she's

[1:42:16] had the software.

[1:42:17] where I did put the 3,000 in the budget when I was made aware of this into her software

[1:42:25] line or maintenance agreement line and I recommended that she go ahead and do this if

[1:42:33] she ever did want to integrate these files into her new software if it was by any means

[1:42:39] available to her for her to do that that to have them digitized was important.

[1:42:47] All right, anybody have any questions?

[1:42:52] I had a quick question. In the in the backup

[1:42:58] data, it said that they were trying to reach out to see if there was another cheaper way

[1:43:03] of doing this internally. Has that search been exhausted?

[1:43:22] It was another county that had tried to do a few things internally.

[1:43:29] So I contacted them with Brian and Alan and it's not going to work.

[1:43:40] So that's the quote is for the transfer of all the data.

[1:43:46] and it will go into the IHS software.

[1:43:50] They've done it many, many times.

[1:43:52] You know, there's only two providers now

[1:43:54] and this is done quite often.

[1:43:57] So actually network science is ready to go.

[1:44:02] I've already been contacted and they have the,

[1:44:06] they've constructed the files and they're ready

[1:44:09] to send them over.

[1:44:12] All right, any further questions?

[1:44:13] Nope.

[1:44:14] John, is this something in the future that we have would be something that this would

[1:44:20] work for too or is this a dream?

[1:44:24] These providers love to hold a hook in all of their software and all of their data so

[1:44:31] that when you end their agreements, they make you pay to get it shifted back out for you.

[1:44:39] So I would assume that if another player got in and we wanted to move from healthcare

[1:44:43] solutions of somewhere else, healthcare solutions will charge us four or five thousand dollars

[1:44:47] to pull all that data to transfer over. It's just a game that software people have learned

[1:44:53] to play. Thanks. There were a few things that were for free. They were going to offer for free.

[1:45:06] All right. Any further questions? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Got a motion by Commissioner

[1:45:13] Severe. I'll second it. Second by Commissioner Macklic. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?

[1:45:19] It passes unanimously. Brings us to agenda item 20, discuss and act on approving a non-exclusive

[1:45:24] license agreement with indigent healthcare solutions for the software system to be used by

[1:45:28] the indigent health care department at a monthly fee of $1,865 in all related issues.

[1:45:37] I believe this is a pretty simple straightforward. We've already given indigent health approval

[1:45:44] to get off of the old software and get on to the new software at a previous commissioners

[1:45:50] court meeting. So if you would like to say anything, or if there's any questions, yes,

[1:45:55] I would just like to say one thing, having worked with Dana on this, I just wanted to kind

[1:46:01] of point out to the court that Dana worked very hard to get this new agreement to be the

[1:46:05] most favorable.

[1:46:06] It could be to the county.

[1:46:07] And I just wanted to recognize her for that.

[1:46:09] All right.

[1:46:10] Well done.

[1:46:10] Thank you for doing that.

[1:46:11] Yes.

[1:46:12] Anytime I see a contract, a Dundam Rockwall County, Texas, it makes me smile for our legal team

[1:46:19] and department heads that force a secondary contract, a Dundam that has to be signed.

[1:46:23] So thank you, Destry.

[1:46:25] Thank you, Dana, for working through that.

[1:46:27] I read it.

[1:46:28] It's really nice.

[1:46:29] My only comment, and I asked Dana before the meeting,

[1:46:32] so she wouldn't think that I was trying to throw

[1:46:34] under the bus here.

[1:46:36] But the data migration was on .303 that says

[1:46:39] that we have to put the data in the correct format

[1:46:42] to move it over to the system.

[1:46:44] And you are confident that we're going to get that done

[1:46:46] because it basically says if you don't do that,

[1:46:48] it doesn't get done.

[1:46:50] So I was just going to have you comment on that very quickly.

[1:46:52] Everything else on the contract I thought was good, but that was the previous quote to network

[1:46:59] science for that data transfer.

[1:47:01] Yes.

[1:47:02] They kind of go hand in hand that we have to put it all in the correct format and move

[1:47:05] it over, and if we don't do that, then our data is gone, and that's what this contract

[1:47:09] says.

[1:47:11] So anyways, I just wanted to point that out, all right?

[1:47:13] All right.

[1:47:14] I'll entertain a motion.

[1:47:16] I'll make a motion that we approve the non-exclusive license agreement with Indigent Healthcare Solutions

[1:47:22] for the software system to be used for the Ingestion Health Care Department and a monthly fee of $1,865.

[1:47:29] Got a motion by Commissioner McLeod.

[1:47:31] I'll say, oh, you got it.

[1:47:33] Got a second by Commissioner Bailey, all those in favor say aye.

[1:47:36] Aye.

[1:47:36] Any opposed, it passes unanimously, brings us to agenda item 21,

[1:47:40] discussing act on approving a three-year renewal maintenance agreement

[1:47:43] with affiliated telephone and incorporated for the phone system at an annual cost of $13,247.50

[1:47:50] Since effective October 1, 2023 and all related issues, we said you have any comments on this, pretty standard, it's our phone system and nothing exciting about it.

[1:48:05] I make a motion we approve.

[1:48:07] Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

[1:48:10] I'll go ahead in a second, so got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, I have the second, any further questions or comments?

[1:48:16] All those in favor say aye.

[1:48:17] Hi. Hi. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. It brings us to agenda item number 22. Discuss

[1:48:25] an act on approving the renewal of an agreement for use of subscription material with Lexipold

[1:48:30] to provide a policy management service and software for law enforcement and all related issues.

[1:48:37] Ms. Lisa, I'm going to kick that over to you.

[1:48:39] Judge, I really have no more comments on it. It is a renewal. The Sheriff's Office has used it. It is budgeted in FY 24.

[1:48:51] I've not heard any problems with them use having the software in the District. It's got to hand up.

[1:48:58] I just do have one comment on that.

[1:49:00] Craig and I had spoke to Keith McKnight about this agreement.

[1:49:03] We did have one thing that we wanted to see change in there that's important to us.

[1:49:08] We're not saying that it needs to be pulled.

[1:49:09] It's one of those rare instances where we would ask the court if they're going to approve

[1:49:12] that they do it subject to successful negotiation by legal.

[1:49:16] We just need one provision struck.

[1:49:17] Keith McKnight was confident that that would be not a problem, but I don't think we've heard

[1:49:21] back from Alexa.

[1:49:23] Okay, so tell me again,

[1:49:26] how the motion would read?

[1:49:28] We would approve contingent on legal renegotiating the contract.

[1:49:35] The past where you approve it is subject to legal approval.

[1:49:41] Yes, subject to legal approval.

[1:49:43] And it's all been negotiated in such as that.

[1:49:44] We don't anticipate any problems.

[1:49:46] We simply, as we sit here today at 11.03,

[1:49:49] we haven't heard back yet with the revision that we've requested,

[1:49:52] but we anticipate we'll get it.

[1:49:53] So just subject to legal approval and then we'll submit it to you for signature.

[1:49:57] Got it. Does anybody have any questions?

[1:50:00] If not, I'm going to go ahead and make the motion that we approve the renewal of an agreement

[1:50:05] for use of the subscription material with Alexa Poll to provide a policy management service

[1:50:10] and software for law enforcement and an annual cost of $31,156.54 subject to legal approval.

[1:50:18] I will second.

[1:50:19] Got my motion and second by Commissioner Stacy any further comments or questions all those in favor say aye

[1:50:24] Hi, any opposed it passes unanimously

[1:50:28] Springs us to agenda item 23 you discuss and act on awarding a contract based on the bids received for generator service and

[1:50:35] Inspection of four generators located at two separate county facilities and all related issues

[1:50:41] I guess the court

[1:50:43] asked me to go out for an informal bid for generator services. It was also

[1:50:50] recommended by our maintenance director to do so along with the court

[1:50:54] suggestion and when we did, one bid was received back. The company that we

[1:51:01] had our contract with for years and years did not choose to bid. So this is a

[1:51:08] new, or I should say I don't know if they did not choose to bid, they did not bid.

[1:51:15] and the Clifford Power Systems Inc. was the Soul Bitter,

[1:51:22] which we spoke with our maintenance director,

[1:51:25] and he was fine with that.

[1:51:28] He's here if you want to ask him.

[1:51:30] One thing I do want to clarify, though,

[1:51:33] that the Steward and Stevens' agreement

[1:51:35] does require a 30-day notice.

[1:51:38] So in your motion, would you also authorize

[1:51:42] authorize legal in my office to send notice to the previous vendor.

[1:51:52] So it's not very often that you can get services at a 69.72% increase and confidently say you save $10,000.

[1:52:03] So very, very strange.

[1:52:04] But here we are.

[1:52:05] So here we are. The price on this is currently 48. It's going to 83. Our previous

[1:52:13] Stewart and Stevens wanted to do it at 18,000. So going out for bid, save the

[1:52:18] county $10,331. So I think that that's a good work doing a little bit extra work

[1:52:24] just to make sure we don't take a 300% increase and say, well, you know, we don't

[1:52:29] have to do that. We can try to find something better. So I'm going to go ahead and

[1:52:35] make a motion that we approve this contract and also alert our current vendor that we

[1:52:43] are terminating that contract.

[1:52:45] Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

[1:52:47] Okay.

[1:52:48] Second by Commissioner Severe, we have any further questions or comments, all those in favor

[1:52:52] say aye.

[1:52:53] Aye.

[1:52:53] Any opposed?

[1:52:54] Passes unanimously.

[1:52:56] That brings us to agenda item 24, discuss and act on approving a letter of non-renewal

[1:53:02] for the interlocal cooperation agreement with the city of West

[1:53:05] to walk any regarding housing prisoners and all related issues.

[1:53:10] This is just pretty straightforward.

[1:53:14] We have a shiny new jail and we can house our own for the time being.

[1:53:19] Thank you.

[1:53:21] So if there's no questions or comments, I just have one quick comment.

[1:53:25] Sherry, thank you for finding this and starting this process.

[1:53:28] It's awesome to have an interlocal agreement be terminated that I didn't

[1:53:31] have to bring forward. So that was pretty cool work. So with that, I will make a motion

[1:53:37] that we approve a letter of non-renewal for the interlocal agreement with the City of

[1:53:41] West Indoch to walk any.

[1:53:43] All right, got a motion by Commissioner Stacey. Second by Commissioner Severe, all those

[1:53:47] in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Agenda item 25, discuss an act

[1:53:53] on approving amendment two to the agreement with HDR Architecture Inc. to accept the proposal

[1:53:58] for a load-bearing feasibility study at the Courthouse Pint House at a cost of $15,989

[1:54:05] in all-related issues.

[1:54:08] I think this was one of the items that was brought up at our last meeting and we wanted

[1:54:13] to have it really formalized.

[1:54:14] I know that Barry was there.

[1:54:17] You want to say anything, Barry?

[1:54:23] No, not really.

[1:54:24] Oh, okay.

[1:54:26] I don't know.

[1:54:28] I'll put that button.

[1:54:29] That's okay.

[1:54:30] Okay, we just want to, I think the plan is, or the assumption is we're moving records

[1:54:37] into the pin house at the new courthouse, we want to make sure that we can do that without

[1:54:45] causing structural issues before doing so, and whatever issues we might run into life-safety

[1:54:53] systems.

[1:54:55] Got it?

[1:54:56] Thank you.

[1:54:56] Anybody have any questions for Barry before he sneaks off?

[1:55:00] He is so quick to do that.

[1:55:01] He just runs away and gets it done and moves on. I like it.

[1:55:06] All right, so I'm going to go ahead and make the emotion that we approve.

[1:55:09] Amendment 2 to the agreement with HDR architecture to accept the bid for a load-bearing feasibility

[1:55:15] study of the courthouse penthouse at a cost of $15,989 and zero cents.

[1:55:22] I'll second that motion.

[1:55:23] Got my motion, got a second.

[1:55:25] All those in favor say aye.

[1:55:27] Aye.

[1:55:28] Any opposed?

[1:55:28] Aye.

[1:55:29] It passes 3 to 2.

[1:55:33] All right, agenda item 26.

[1:55:36] Discuss and act on approving the FY 2024 Texas SAVNS

[1:55:41] Annual Maintenance Grant Contract, whereby the Attorney General's Office

[1:55:45] will provide grant monies in the amount of $18,030.39

[1:55:50] and all related issues, Ms. Lisa.

[1:55:52] So, sir, this is an ongoing grant that we have that we pay the expense and then the

[1:56:00] attorney general's office pays us back.

[1:56:04] It is in the budget is basically, it's a pass-through.

[1:56:08] We receive the money, we pay the money out, and the current amount that's in the budget

[1:56:13] is the current amount that's listed.

[1:56:16] Make a motion.

[1:56:17] We approve.

[1:56:17] and a motion by Commissioner Stacey, second by Commissioner Bailey. Any further questions or comments?

[1:56:23] All those in favor say aye. Aye.

[1:56:25] Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

[1:56:27] Brings us to agenda item 27. Discuss and act on awarding the 2024 contracts for bids received or the following road and bridge construction materials.

[1:56:37] Number one, the hot mix asphalt concrete. Number two, asphalt, faults, oils and emulsions.

[1:56:43] Number three, gas oil and diesel. Number four, corrugated metal pipe.

[1:56:46] Number five, cement treated materials and all related issues.

[1:56:51] Yes, the desk treated you?

[1:56:54] Oh, I thought that was pretty quick for a question.

[1:56:56] I thought, what?

[1:56:57] We can't have gotten off track already.

[1:57:00] Okay.

[1:57:02] This is something, members of the court, especially the ones that's been here for a while.

[1:57:06] No, you do this every year.

[1:57:07] You put it out for bid every year.

[1:57:11] Got Commissioner Bailey.

[1:57:12] Makes a motion to approve.

[1:57:13] a second by Commissioner Severe. Any further questions or comments? All those in favor say aye.

[1:57:19] Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay, that brings us.

[1:57:27] Agenda item 28, discuss and act on renewing the following annual maintenance agreements for October

[1:57:33] 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024 and all related issues and there are pages.

[1:57:41] We have

[1:57:48] 64 line items and I believe there was one we're pulling or maybe two we're pulling.

[1:57:58] Get back.

[1:57:59] The pulling ones come from property requisitions.

[1:58:03] Okay, property requisitions.

[1:58:04] All right, so we're not pulling.

[1:58:09] Almost hesitate to ask any questions or comments, commissioners.

[1:58:12] I'll just let for the record know that the vendors that are listed one through 64.

[1:58:25] The names and dollar amount, I mean the dollar amounts are what is in your FY24 under maintenance

[1:58:32] agreements that are scattered through the budget in different departments and so forth or

[1:58:39] general government and so forth.

[1:58:41] Yeah, and I can say for those looking at home that don't have the agenda in front of you, the total is $1,850,263.62 cents for maintenance agreements and sitting through the first county budget every department after every department has increase in maintenance agreements and some of them substantial just some of them almost the doubling of maintenance agreements, but again it's it's like buying insurance a lot of them.

[1:59:09] You don't dare not have the maintenance agreement.

[1:59:13] I also want to point out that the maintenance agreement is also software and other things.

[1:59:18] This isn't just going around and maintaining buildings and stuff like that.

[1:59:24] This is what falls under this category is also all the software and technology required to run the county as well.

[1:59:32] and it is a 27% increase year to year, 393,000 and $13 to the one that was voted on last year at this time, but 270,000 of that is the Tyler software alone.

[1:59:47] So it is significant, it is every department, but it is almost completely that huge chunk

[1:59:59] is actually...

[2:00:00] Just straight from our justice, our new world and Odyssey servers and what we're doing. And the reason is because we did an install and now we're in the maintenance agreement phase of those software. So that's why you have the big uptick in Tyler, as we have gone from an install to the maintenance, which is causing the price to go up. So I just wanted to point that out that most of this is actually Tyler. And that will be the same going forward.

[2:00:27] Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and make a motion that we've renewed the following annual

[2:00:32] maintenance agreements for October 1 through September 30, 2024 and items 1 through 64

[2:00:40] and please tell me I can do it that easy.

[2:00:43] Okay, if you can I'll second it.

[2:00:45] Yes, all right.

[2:00:46] So we have my motion, have a second by Commissioner Stacey's.

[2:00:50] Any further questions or comments?

[2:00:52] All those in favor say aye.

[2:00:54] Aye.

[2:00:55] Any opposed?

[2:00:55] it passes unanimously. That brings us to agenda item 29. Public hearing to

[2:01:03] discuss the proposed FY2024 budget for Rockwell County and all related issues.

[2:01:10] So this is that public hearing that we've been working toward.

[2:01:19] You need to

[2:01:20] technically start it. Yeah whoever would like to if

[2:01:28] nobody's got anything to say

[2:01:29] got a motion. Someone's raising their hand in the public.

[2:01:36] I didn't know. Let me let me get a legal.

[2:01:44] So, so what I'm going to suggest is I know that we have public comments at the beginning of

[2:01:49] the meeting, but because this is a statutorily required public hearing on the budget. Probably

[2:01:55] be appropriate. Love it. Except comments again. Love it. Come on up, state your name.

[2:02:21] I'll whack her through and I'm feathers don't thrive. Thank you again. In fact, when I fill out the

[2:02:25] form before I put public discussion and the budget. And so I was surprised when you called me earlier.

[2:02:31] here. One common, I hope the fire marshal gets canned. The second thing is the why couldn't

[2:02:40] you make these contractual agreements like the consultant for the transportation committee

[2:02:46] where you have 30 days you could let him go. If you're going to hire this person full time

[2:02:52] either a general counsel or a political or public information officer, couldn't that be done

[2:02:58] on a contractual basis as a consultant.

[2:03:01] And that way if there's nothing to publicize,

[2:03:03] there's not 64 agreements, et cetera,

[2:03:06] all these little things.

[2:03:07] There's only the annexation.

[2:03:09] There's only a couple of things

[2:03:10] that you can publicly talk about

[2:03:12] that will a public information officer be kept busy.

[2:03:16] And on a contractual basis, if you find out,

[2:03:18] just like you're looking at the transportation guy,

[2:03:21] hey, is he pulling his weight?

[2:03:23] Is he doing what we ask him to do?

[2:03:25] If not, we can fire him in 30 days.

[2:03:27] We can give them notice in say 30 days. So to hire someone full time when you're not sure what the description is

[2:03:33] What they're going to do how busy they will be and in fact I heard that the general counsel will provide a lot of information

[2:03:40] About all of these contracts and these issues to the commissioners court

[2:03:45] That's not the commissioners court. That's the people out there that need this attorney that attorney should be for those people all the other

[2:03:51] Departments to say hey, we've got a contract with you review this for us until it so it when it gets to you

[2:03:58] it's already been reviewed and approved. You don't have to do that last step. So I guess

[2:04:04] and we're only growing 3% and with all the other people are adding stuff as Cliff said in one

[2:04:09] of the meetings. Could we look at this in light of do we really need to spend this much commit

[2:04:14] this much money every year to a person without a contract, without an agreement, without a job

[2:04:20] performance description, without deliverables. We have nothing like that. So the public has nothing

[2:04:25] to decide on what to do. It's your decision only so I'm a little bit of fault with that.

[2:04:31] Thank you.

[2:04:32] Thank you, Mr. Wacker. Would anybody else like to come speak?

[2:04:37] The podium is open. The microphone is on.

[2:04:44] Okay, seeing no one else. I want to call this a conclusion to the public hearing portion.

[2:04:49] I think Commissioner Bailey had some items he wanted to go over.

[2:05:02] Item 32 adopting the budget.

[2:05:04] Yes, sir.

[2:05:05] Okay.

[2:05:06] You don't mind?

[2:05:07] Okay.

[2:05:07] So this

[2:05:14] statutorily, we've completed our public hearing.

[2:05:17] I'm assuming.

[2:05:17] Okay.

[2:05:18] Public hearing on the tax rate.

[2:05:19] Okay.

[2:05:20] We're going to move on to agenda item 30.

[2:05:22] Public hearing to discuss the proposed 2023 tax rate for Rockwell County and all related issues.

[2:05:27] And I would say again, I see the green light on, so the microphone is still active, so be careful when you walk up there.

[2:05:33] But if anybody would like to make any comments, the proposed tax rate is 0.2760 per $100 of assessed value.

[2:05:51] I'm sorry.

[2:05:52] Come and come to the microphone and say something, Rich.

[2:05:58] Decision states this to 2023 tax rate.

[2:06:02] It's calendar year 2020.

[2:06:05] Yeah, the whole system is designed to confuse everyone, Rich.

[2:06:10] Thank you.

[2:06:11] So seeing no one other than Rich for clarification, I'm going to move on to agenda item 31 public hearing to discuss the county clerk's archive plan FY2024 for the preservation and restoration of the county clerk's records archives and all related issues.

[2:06:29] So again, I'm assuming this is a statutory obligation we have.

[2:06:39] Okay, does anybody have any questions?

[2:06:41] questions.

[2:06:46] Since you're not there, he's not lit up anyway. So no one, you couldn't hear

[2:06:51] him. Yeah.

[2:06:55] Does anybody have any questions?

[2:06:59] We're in a public hearing agenda item 31.

[2:07:01] No, it says public hearing does. He closed the public.

[2:07:11] Oh, got it. Got it. Yep. That's

[2:07:14] Okay, so is there any of the public that would like to speak?

[2:07:18] Thank you, Linda and Lisa, can Craig and Dester had in mean to leave the rest of the staff out.

[2:07:25] Thank you.

[2:07:26] All right, seeing no one, we will close the public carry move on to agenda item number 32.

[2:07:31] Discuss and act on adopting the Rockwell County budget for FY 2024 and take a record vote in all related issues.

[2:07:40] Now I believe.

[2:07:41] Yes sir. Thank you. I just have a couple of items that I want to briefly run through in

[2:07:54] each of these items have

[2:08:01] already been approved by the court.

[2:08:06] So it's

[2:08:12] kind of obvious they

[2:08:15] they were approved by a 3-2 or a 4-1 type vote but I still want to object to these certain

[2:08:28] items and so I think over on page 3 the legal services line item having to deal with

[2:08:40] about $100,000 that I am opposed to I think on page three also the

[2:08:50] engineering the county engineering services in the amount of $150,000 I think

[2:08:58] is probably insufficient in that we may have some disputes going along that

[2:09:09] particular road. Also on page 7, the General Counsel in that $20,000 that I opposed to on page 38,

[2:09:27] the overtime in the jail on the jail side and the sheriff's office of approximately $270,000.

[2:09:40] And then on page 36 also the overtime back on the deputy side there.

[2:09:54] So these are items that I had mentioned before that there's a, you know, we've got a roughly $50 million budget that

[2:10:13] commissioners have approved and I don't get my way either.

[2:10:22] So, but I do want to take a particular stand on those particular ones, and we'll be voting

[2:10:31] for the budget, sorry. Okay? That's all I have.

[2:10:36] Thank you, Commissioner Bailey. Commissioners, anybody else have

[2:10:41] commissioners severe?

[2:10:43] Yes. I just like the first of all, I think the new court, in a way we worked.

[2:10:50] worked. I think we did a lot of work together. It was hard work, a lot of give and take.

[2:10:56] I hope through the process, as I've done for 11 years and continue to do, there's a lot

[2:11:02] of learning going on. And what we didn't see or didn't have time to go through this year,

[2:11:10] I think next year you're going to be able to take a closer look. So thank you guys and

[2:11:14] and gals for your hard work on this.

[2:11:18] But throughout the process of this hearing,

[2:11:20] I have stated numerous times on several different things

[2:11:24] that I didn't agree in the budget with.

[2:11:27] I did not write them down like Dennis did.

[2:11:31] However, if you go back and listen to our videos

[2:11:34] on what we have, I think you will very easily find

[2:11:37] the ones that I objected to.

[2:11:40] And again, we're not up here to say

[2:11:43] we're all going to get what we want. We have a budget to come up with and a

[2:11:47] number to work with at that budget. We did the best we could. Some of us won,

[2:11:54] some of us lost. I don't look at really win lose. People that win is the

[2:11:59] people, that's who we're fighting for, for the win. So throughout this process,

[2:12:04] I said several items on the agenda that I did not like. However, I'm going to

[2:12:11] I'm going to go back and I'm going to give one example of what I think is really, really gone over too far.

[2:12:25] We have approved an attorney in this budget.

[2:12:30] It's one.

[2:12:32] We approved an attorney retainer in this budget.

[2:12:37] That's two.

[2:12:37] we have professional funds we can use for attorneys or we can use it for

[2:12:46] engineers or we can use for whatever we want there's a number in there and we

[2:12:52] have our own DA office that is by law has to has to support us has to support us

[2:12:59] this is one example of four different attorney type fees that we're paying for

[2:13:06] to turn. So, I just wanted to say that Craig, 11 years I've worked with you in

[2:13:16] industry and in kind of your office for the other ones that were here before

[2:13:21] them. I appreciate your service. I appreciate all you did. I know this is not a

[2:13:26] good buy. This is not a see later. I know you're still going to be working for us.

[2:13:30] It's not going to be as in-depth. It's not going to be on a probably day-to-day

[2:13:34] basis as we have done it, but thank you, thank you, thank you for your service in which

[2:13:40] you've all done for us. And I just hope that we have very few citizens that come to talk

[2:13:49] to us or to express their concerns about the budget. And when they do that, they're not

[2:13:56] always favorable for us. And that's okay. That's why we're up here. We're up here to help

[2:14:01] the citizen, that's why we think we can.

[2:14:03] Citizens are all not going to agree with us, some will, some won't.

[2:14:07] But I do thank all the citizens that have taken the time to come out and express your concerns

[2:14:13] about whatever portion of the budget or whatever you did or disagree with in this budget.

[2:14:19] I thank you all very much for attending these meetings.

[2:14:22] And that's all I have to say.

[2:14:23] Thank you very much for your court.

[2:14:25] Thank you, Commissioner Severe.

[2:14:27] I just want to say there is no fire marshal in this budget.

[2:14:30] it. That was taken out. So in draft three and in the final draft there is no funding

[2:14:37] for a fire marshal. And to quote Commissioner Bailey sometimes you lose. And I lost my

[2:14:44] fire marshal but that's okay.

[2:14:49] This has been a great learning experience for me. As the judges

[2:14:54] said a couple of different times, this is different than municipalities and the

[2:15:02] So, it's been very eye opening and I too want to congratulate and thank my peers up here on court because there was many offices I went knocked on the door, especially to our more senior ones that have been on the court long, the longest and said, help me out, help me figure out something. And I appreciate the time they spent with me and to educate me on some of the things that I wasn't quite understanding. So, thank you to Cliff.

[2:15:29] and to Dennis for that.

[2:15:32] When I wrote something down back over about a month and a half ago when we started this

[2:15:38] process, I even did a little sheet for me to make sure I always stay focused but I really

[2:15:43] wanted to take this position of looking at the budget and making sure that I was addressing

[2:15:48] from an economic stability or a sustainability standpoint for our county that what were each

[2:15:54] of the things we would be looking at.

[2:15:56] and making sure that we were addressing all the critical needs that both the judge encountered

[2:16:02] and shared in the various drafts we've had and really trying to vet those and make sure

[2:16:09] that we were having a transparent budget process because I think that's important in the

[2:16:14] climate, the governmental climate we're in right now.

[2:16:17] And I wanted to address the population growth and maybe some of it is not as the percentages

[2:16:24] is that we have experienced in the previous years and what they may be, the

[2:16:29] demographers may be saying are coming up in the next, you know, next three to

[2:16:32] five years. But either way, we're behind the curve on some of these issues. And so

[2:16:37] making sure that what we're looking at and some of the investments that are

[2:16:40] being made from the county and my opinion is the investments that are going to

[2:16:45] keep us and help us to continue to be efficient and reliable to the citizens of

[2:16:50] the county and making sure that we maintain ourselves as a trusted leader among our constituents.

[2:16:57] So all of those were things that I tried to make sure I took into consideration every

[2:17:01] single time.

[2:17:02] I was looking at these and the conversations we've had on the previous drafts.

[2:17:07] So I feel, as you asked me, I guess about a week ago, you said, how do you feel, Commissioner

[2:17:12] Mackle?

[2:17:13] And I said, well, I'm feeling that we're getting there, we're getting there.

[2:17:15] And I do believe that there are some things that aren't so, you know, it's really not

[2:17:20] to win or lose. I mean, yes, there are things that we're more passionate about. But as long

[2:17:24] as we take, as long as from my standpoint, I use that thought process. I feel like we

[2:17:29] are moving in the right direction and feel good about the things that I have voted on

[2:17:35] thus far.

[2:17:38] Thank you, Commissioner Mikelick. Mr. Stacey, you have any summation or any comments?

[2:17:43] I don't really other than the fact that I feel really good about the priorities that are in

[2:17:50] this budget, I feel very good about the investment in the preservation of public safety and

[2:17:56] the different things we're doing in the budget going forward.

[2:17:59] I appreciate your commitment to a new revenue rate going forward.

[2:18:04] I think that there's a lot of things that are moving in the right direction, a lot of things

[2:18:08] that are being thought about, preserved, and invested in the changing times that we're

[2:18:17] going to be dealing with.

[2:18:21] I think that when you look at the tax rate, which I guess

[2:18:27] is the next thing, as opposed to what we're spending, what we're raising, the new revenue

[2:18:35] rate is as opposed to the tax rate that we're passing and you look at where that money is

[2:18:39] is going, almost all of it is going into public safety district attorney.

[2:18:45] And I think that I was kind of to Commissioner McElick's standpoint probably to you, Frank,

[2:18:54] people that have done city budgets.

[2:18:56] This is a completely different animal than a city budget.

[2:19:01] The commissioners sit in a very strange spot, I think, because there are state,

[2:19:06] The statutory mandates of things we have to do that the state government tells us, and then there's also the will of the people, and we're kind of in the middle of what we have to do versus what the people, you know, where we are with that.

[2:19:19] So just real quick, I mean there's a $34 million increase investment in our public safety and district attorney in this budget.

[2:19:32] There's a, when you look at how much more money has been spent in these different departments

[2:19:38] and how much money we're raising, you can see when you look at the courts, the supporting

[2:19:43] documentation, public safety, this budget, although there are two or three line items that

[2:19:50] are continually repeated back to us as for some of the people that I don't like this

[2:19:55] and I don't like that, this budget is a public safety budget.

[2:19:58] This budget is a reinvestment into what we're doing for the

[2:20:03] consumables, the JP courts, the district court, the jury fees, the different

[2:20:09] things that we're having to do through the whole criminal justice system.

[2:20:13] In our previous budget, this whole system was, what was it, 62% of the budget and now it's 65%.

[2:20:21] There's a $2 million more in these departments than there was in the previous budget.

[2:20:27] So I think that when you look at this increase in public safety citizen focus and what we're trying to deliver to keep our community safe, to keep our community going forward, I think that while we can nitpick at why are you doing this and why are you doing that the overall budget, where these dollars are being spent the most significant amount of dollars are being spent right back in our duty and our duty is to the criminal justice and the safety of this community as a county.

[2:20:54] So, I'm proud of the direction we went, I don't like the winners and losers but there

[2:21:01] are things that I try to get done that I couldn't get done in this budget cycle that I'm

[2:21:05] going to try next time and the next time and to get that done.

[2:21:10] I will say that I did do a scientific survey of precinct 4 and asked the people that put

[2:21:17] me in this chair what their budget priorities are and I would say this budget aligns 100%

[2:21:22] And all the way down from top to bottom with what the people are precinct for are facing.

[2:21:28] What we're wanting to do, all the way down to General Counsel, funding of professional services.

[2:21:34] That was asked 80% of my folks said the county needs to do more.

[2:21:39] We need to go in that direction because we're the precinct that's being overrun by muds and developers.

[2:21:46] Precinct three is as well, but I'm saying we're seeing that firsthand.

[2:21:49] And so I think that this is a good step on the right direction.

[2:21:53] I'm very proud of the work we did, and I can't thank Cliff and Miss Enough as a guiding factor through this process.

[2:22:00] And I've enjoyed the dialogue, I love the process, and I'm going to miss seeing everyone two days a week in this room.

[2:22:09] And so anyways, that's what I have to say, just keeping my reputation as a commission who talks too much.

[2:22:15] so could I could I ask quickly for clarification you had indicated that public

[2:22:18] public enforcement got 34 million the sheriff may be getting a lot of money I

[2:22:24] didn't say 34 million he did say he did say 34 but he meant 3.4 that is totally

[2:22:30] my fault it's 3.4 that's what this like I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't

[2:22:34] missing about. No, no, no, there's not an extra 31 million out there.

[2:22:48] Hey now. So commissioner, did you want to go over this? Well, he just didn't.

[2:22:52] No, he did. I'm a visual person as you guys all know. And as I begin to ask

[2:22:59] questions and trying to do my rock wall math on a number of things, that's when it

[2:23:04] came out that truly a large percentage of the budget, both, you know, in the previous

[2:23:09] years as well as this one. And it's like, what, yeah, everybody. So, I mean, that's

[2:23:14] part of the quality of life that people come and move here for as well. And it became

[2:23:19] real evident as I started doing numbers and then random died by John to make sure I wasn't

[2:23:25] missing anything. And we both concurred that this is a solid. And we were based on what he said.

[2:23:30] We were both very pleased with where where the focus has been.

[2:23:33] All right. Well, thank you. Thank you, everyone. This has been a little bit longer.

[2:23:41] You know, your notes go back a month ago. I was neck deep in this several months ago,

[2:23:47] but have enjoyed, enjoyed it. And so we said here in this courtroom, the Historical Commission did

[2:23:54] part of their lecture series. Gosh, what is it? Last week. Yeah, Friday.

[2:24:00] that was 75 years of county judges and they asked me what my regret was, you know

[2:24:06] of course only being on the job nine months I told them my biggest regret is

[2:24:10] having to say no to county employees who are really good people who just want

[2:24:15] to serve the citizens more and I have to be the person that stands in there and

[2:24:21] looks at the taxes the citizens are paying and what they're going to get and

[2:24:26] sometimes I have to look at people who are trying to do really good things and

[2:24:30] and say, no, we can't do that.

[2:24:32] So that was and still remains my biggest disappointment,

[2:24:36] but that's part of the job.

[2:24:39] That's why I sit here.

[2:24:41] My job is to say no when the answer needs to be no.

[2:24:45] So anyway, with that, this is going to be a roll call vote,

[2:24:49] but I believe I still need a motion to take the roll call vote.

[2:24:54] Is that correct?

[2:24:55] Can I get some legal guidance there?

[2:24:57] I

[2:25:01] agree, I think I can roll call vote.

[2:25:03] So I'm going to go ahead and make the motion that we adopt the Rockwall County budget,

[2:25:08] vinyl draft version for FY2024, in all related issues.

[2:25:14] I will second.

[2:25:16] So that is my motion, that is a second by Commissioner Stacey.

[2:25:20] I'm going to start down here on precinct one.

[2:25:22] Commissioner McLeod.

[2:25:24] Speaker votes aye.

[2:25:25] Commissioner McLeod.

[2:25:27] Commissioner Bailey.

[2:25:28] Speaker.

[2:25:28] Commissioner Stacey, aye.

[2:25:31] County Judge votes aye.

[2:25:33] So thank you everyone that will wrap up agenda item 32, agenda item 33.

[2:25:39] Discuss and act on adopting the Rockwell County tax rate for 2023, physically year 2024,

[2:25:44] and take a record vote.

[2:25:47] I don't believe there's a lot of discussion here.

[2:25:51] Stay in the same, I don't see how we can change it.

[2:25:57] And that's staying the same as 0.2760 per $100 of assessed value.

[2:26:04] I'd like a motion, yes, sir.

[2:26:12] That the county tax rate becomes 0.2760.

[2:26:23] Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey.

[2:26:26] I'll second that motion.

[2:26:28] Second by Commissioner Macklic.

[2:26:30] All right, so let's go Commissioner precinct one I Commissioner precinct two I Commissioner precinct three

[2:26:37] I Commissioner precinct four I and county judge votes. I thank you everyone

[2:26:42] This brings us to agenda item 34 discussing act on approving the county clerks archive plan for FY2024 for the preservation and

[2:26:50] Restoration of the county clerks records archives and all related issues

[2:26:54] They'll move not even going to make your come up here again. I got a motion by Commissioner Bailey

[2:26:59] They get by Commissioner severe all those in favor say aye aye any opposed that passes unanimously

[2:27:06] brings us to agenda item 35 discuss and act on

[2:27:09] Designating a day or days of the week on which the commissioners County Commissioner's Court shall convene in a regular term each month during the next

[2:27:16] fiscal year pursuant to Texas local government code 81.005, parenthetical A, and all related issues.

[2:27:26] We have the authority to move the meeting to whatever day we want.

[2:27:33] I've seen no reason to change it unless somebody has got a reason.

[2:27:38] I mean, you know, there's back to our winners and losers.

[2:27:45] If people, I can't come on Tuesdays.

[2:27:47] Well, I come on Monday when we do Monday.

[2:27:49] And then somebody can't come on Monday.

[2:27:50] But I could come on Tuesday.

[2:27:51] And I think we've made it where everybody can watch online.

[2:27:54] And it's recorded.

[2:27:55] We're being very transparent and reaching out.

[2:27:58] So I would suggest that we leave it as it is.

[2:28:03] But my motion then judge would be that the commissioners court would meet on the second and fourth

[2:28:13] Tuesday of each month.

[2:28:15] Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey, second by Commissioner Severe and you further comments or questions all those in favor say aye

[2:28:22] Aye any opposed it passes unanimously

[2:28:25] This brings us to discuss an act on approving Rockwall County employee holidays for the calendar year

[2:28:31] year 2024 and all related issues.

[2:28:38] So is this, is this a, we pick the ones that we've just traditionally have done is

[2:28:47] how we get to these check marks because this is quite an extensive list of holidays.

[2:28:52] It is an extensive list and, yeah, I want some of them are state, Texas Independence Day.

[2:29:03] Some of them are federal mandates, June 10th now, and there's nothing on this list that I see that's outrageous.

[2:29:19] Or we haven't traditionally taken as a county holiday.

[2:29:25] And just for the people listening at home who may not have the agenda, it is just standard New Year's Day, Martin Luther King Day,

[2:29:32] Presidents Day, Texas Independence Day, Good Friday, Memorial Day, Juneteenth Independence Day, Labor Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas are what we're proposing as the county holidays.

[2:29:46] So, though, the only federal holiday that I saw for whatever reason is Columbus Day, but I don't know why we've just traditionally skipped over that.

[2:29:58] that seems like a...

[2:30:00] I have no idea. I was just looking through the list and saying, well, you know, when you look at all these federal holidays, we take all of them just about except Columbus Day. The banks are closed. So, I mean, it's just a curious. I'm just curious as to why is there is there a reason why? Is there a number we're trying to get to? It was just it was just never selected that way, but that's fair enough. You know, it could be changed, I'm sure, but it's never been brought up that way.

[2:30:33] 30 plus. Yeah, I mean, this list is over for you. That's true. Not very many. Is there a pick one?

[2:30:40] It's 400. I'm going to be the bad guy here and say let's leave it alone and let's talk about it next

[2:30:47] year. I'm just asking if once that first domino falls and then why not Valentine's Day?

[2:30:53] That's not a fairer holiday. Well, I understand, but I'm going to say let's leave it and we'll discuss

[2:31:01] that next year. Okay well make a motion we approve this as presented.

[2:31:07] Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

[2:31:11] I'll go ahead and second. So Commissioner

[2:31:13] Stacey has the motion. I've offered the second all those in favor say aye. Any

[2:31:18] opposed? It passes unanimously. Agenda item 37 discussing act on approving the

[2:31:23] FY2024 sheriffs and constables fees pursuant to Texas local government code 118.131

[2:31:31] in parenthetical B and all related issues.

[2:31:34] This says sheriff, but I believe desk trees.

[2:31:38] Yes, Judge, I already spoke to the sheriff about this.

[2:31:41] We're requesting or I'm requesting that this get postponed

[2:31:43] to the 26th.

[2:31:45] We have until October 1st to approve this.

[2:31:47] And there is a concern about one of the fees

[2:31:48] that I need to talk to the sheriff's office

[2:31:50] and the constable about.

[2:31:52] Got it.

[2:31:52] I knew there was something Elisa came and told me

[2:31:55] we were pulling, but that was different.

[2:31:58] Okay, all right. Well, that's that's still coming because I was a bit I've been looking for my notes.

[2:32:05] So we will just leave 37 as it sits and revisit it when when the time is right.

[2:32:12] Yeah, it should be the time will be right. I think on the very next agenda. So the 26 should be good if

[2:32:17] we want to go ahead and put it on there. Okay, perfect. Do we need a formal motion or can we just

[2:32:22] get ahead and not and say we're going to review it on the next agenda? No, we don't need a motion.

[2:32:27] okay brings us to agenda item 38 consent agenda. I just want to make a quick comment

[2:32:33] I want to thank the county clerk's office because there are six meeting minutes on

[2:32:40] this consent agenda and that is a lot of work to catch up with all these budget meetings.

[2:32:45] So I just want to say thank you to to Jennifer and her staff and whoever put all of that together

[2:32:50] is just that that's a lot of meetings to and a lot of words and a lot of work. Yes sir.

[2:32:57] So I just want to put that, but with that I want to make a motion we approve the consent agenda as presented a through I.

[2:33:03] An motion by Commissioner Stacey.

[2:33:05] Say it.

[2:33:06] Second by Commissioner Bailey, all those in favor say aye.

[2:33:08] Aye.

[2:33:09] Any opposed?

[2:33:10] It passes unanimously.

[2:33:11] It brings us to agenda item 39, property acquisitions, dispositions.

[2:33:15] Make a motion and that we approve property acquisition, disposition.

[2:33:19] Hold on.

[2:33:20] Hold on.

[2:33:20] Lisa.

[2:33:21] This is where I need to pull item 39 a and see at this time removing

[2:33:30] that out of your motion that would be awesome well I don't think you quite

[2:33:35] finished that motion so I go back I'll remain I would draw that motion I make

[2:33:44] a motion that we approve property acquisitions and dispositions. B, C, D, E, G, H, I, and J.

[2:33:55] I'm pulling F and Lisa wanted to pull C. Oh, do you say C2? I'm sorry.

[2:34:05] Yeah, since we

[2:34:07] didn't have a second, let's go ahead and redo it. Okay, let me redo this motion. I like

[2:34:11] We have to make a motion that we approve property acquisition, just positions, B-D-E-G-H-I-J, and I wonder to pull F.

[2:34:22] Okay.

[2:34:23] We got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

[2:34:25] I will second.

[2:34:26] Got a second by Commissioner Stacey. Any questions or comments?

[2:34:30] All those in favor say aye.

[2:34:32] Aye.

[2:34:32] Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

[2:34:34] It brings us to agenda item number 40, non-emergency budget transfers.

[2:34:42] Does that make, when we pull it, do we have to, do we go back to F at that point, or is it just pulled from the agenda?

[2:34:54] Well, I would say that it's been pulled.

[2:34:57] You could discuss it again if you want to, or you could simply leave it as pulled.

[2:35:01] I don't know if there's discussion to be had on those three items that were pulled or not.

[2:35:06] Well, A and C are pulled for sure, but commissioners severe pulled F so did we want to discuss F or is it just your intentions to just let and revisit it at a later date?

[2:35:18] That's what I want to do. Revisit at a later date.

[2:35:21] Okay. Okay. I just wanted to make sure.

[2:35:23] Yep. Okay. All right.

[2:35:24] I'm sorry.

[2:35:25] No, that's okay.

[2:35:26] Okay. So back to agenda item 40 non-emergency budget transfers.

[2:35:30] First,

[2:35:33] I will entertain a motion if somebody is so inclined.

[2:35:37] I will make a motion that we approve, as presented, that's 2023-21, 2023-222, 2023-23-23-24, 2023-25, 2025-20-23-26.

[2:35:50] I'll second that motion.

[2:35:51] I've got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, a second by Commissioner Macklic, all those in favor say aye.

[2:35:55] Aye.

[2:35:56] Any opposed?

[2:35:57] It passes unanimously.

[2:35:57] Obviously, brings us to agenda item 41 approval of accounts, bills, claims, and pay

[2:36:02] roll.

[2:36:06] I'm submitting to the court paid claims they amount of $590,532.82 and I asked for the

[2:36:15] court's approval.

[2:36:17] We'll move.

[2:36:18] Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey.

[2:36:20] Second.

[2:36:20] Second by Commissioner Macklic.

[2:36:22] All those in favor say aye.

[2:36:23] Aye.

[2:36:24] Any opposed?

[2:36:25] It passes unanimously.

[2:36:28] I'll submit unpaid claims and they might have $936,360.80 and I ask for the court's approval.

[2:36:38] Move to approve.

[2:36:39] An emotion by Commissioner Stacey.

[2:36:41] Second by Commissioner Severe, all those in favor say aye.

[2:36:44] Aye.

[2:36:45] Any opposed?

[2:36:45] It passes unanimously.

[2:36:47] I have two payroll reports.

[2:36:49] I'll do them separately.

[2:36:50] The first payroll report I'm submitting to you is the pay for the pay period of August,

[2:36:55] Yes, for the pay period ending August 19th, 2023, in the amount of $945,385.91, and I ask for the court to approval.

[2:37:08] I'll move to approve.

[2:37:10] We got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

[2:37:12] I'll second that.

[2:37:13] Got a second by Commissioner Macklic, any further comments?

[2:37:17] All those in favor say aye.

[2:37:19] Aye.

[2:37:20] Any opposed?

[2:37:21] Aye.

[2:37:21] Passes four to one.

[2:37:23] I'll submit to the Court the payroll report number two for the pay period to ending September of 2nd, 2023 in the amount of $946,554.47 and ask for the Court's approval.

[2:37:39] Move to approve. Motion by Commissioner Stacey. Second by Commissioner Severe. Any further comments or questions? All those in favor say aye.

[2:37:48] Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye.

[2:37:50] It passes 4 to 1.

[2:37:53] All right. So, having nothing on executive session,

[2:37:57] this brings us to Commissioner Court reports.

[2:37:59] I have one. I'd like to make the commissioners aware of.

[2:38:02] Last Friday, September 8 was the deadline for us to receive submissions

[2:38:08] in regards to the strategic plan and the prospective consultants.

[2:38:12] and we did not receive two and I would like to share with you guys that I want to review

[2:38:23] and see if we can extend that because there were one of the sources that was used.

[2:38:30] There were 19 companies that did download our RFQ but only two of those 19 submitted something.

[2:38:37] Okay, so that that that causes me a little bit of, you know, want to do a little bit more investigating and

[2:38:44] so I'd like to

[2:38:46] Ask you guys to give me a little bit of time and by our next meeting. I'll give you an update and

[2:38:51] What the recommendation may be as far as extending the deadline on to this

[2:38:57] All right, the deadline expo the deadline's already expired. Did last Friday

[2:39:02] Yes, excuse me and you want to give us

[2:39:06] come back the next court to tell us how long you want to extend it. So you

[2:39:10] already be about three weeks. I just got the the the two that were submitted

[2:39:15] were on my desk yesterday. Okay, and so I we do have two two submissions but

[2:39:21] but I did look at the the sources and since there were others that did

[2:39:26] download it and we know that one in particular needed an additional time and

[2:39:31] and we were not able to extend the time, okay?

[2:39:35] And, but it just seems like for something

[2:39:37] this big of a project I'd really like to have,

[2:39:40] and it was our thought that we would have

[2:39:42] at least four or five to look at.

[2:39:46] And so we just have two guys,

[2:39:47] and this is a big project that we are wanting to do.

[2:39:50] But I have one question, what you just said,

[2:39:54] you know of one that said they didn't have enough time,

[2:39:59] shouldn't be contacted, her.

[2:40:00] right and they I turned them over to the committee not to after they

[2:40:05] contacted and contacted her she did they did they contacted the auditor well

[2:40:09] I guess I never got any requests for an extension from any vendor did you

[2:40:15] speak with Chris Lynch about it he should be speaking to her about it Chris

[2:40:21] did that's I call Chris because I was like I can't tell you any I can't do this you

[2:40:24] can't talk no I think I told Chris to have them contact me but I never

[2:40:29] They did not contact you, because I spoke to you, so Chris told me he was

[2:40:33] but I would just recommend that you put in your RFQ that the court can deny all

[2:40:43] submittals and do but you would have to do the whole process all over again.

[2:40:48] You would not be able to at this time to extend a deadline that's already been

[2:40:55] pass. But if you so wished we could put it back out for bid but you'd have to deny the

[2:41:03] bids that were received and then right. And I'm just not prepared to say one way or

[2:41:07] the other just having gotten the two the two and because they're both pretty big bids so

[2:41:11] I have not had the time to look through them as of today.

[2:41:18] Okay. All right.

[2:41:19] Mr. Smith. I just have a couple of things. A new hope Baptist Church 164 anniversary was an

[2:41:25] awesome weekend that everyone had a good time.

[2:41:28] I would just if everyone can mark their calendars,

[2:41:31] it will be 165 next year,

[2:41:34] which would be a pretty cool thing.

[2:41:36] And I'm sure they're gonna do it right.

[2:41:38] So that is a pretty cool thing if they have going out there

[2:41:42] and just a testament to our Lord and Savior as well

[2:41:48] that there could be the second longest,

[2:41:51] continuous African-American church in the state of Texas.

[2:41:53] as it's older than this county is pretty remarkable

[2:41:56] and it's right there in Royce City.

[2:41:58] And then I also want to point out

[2:41:59] that Celebrate Fate is Saturday.

[2:42:02] This is in the evening, like five to nine

[2:42:04] or something like that.

[2:42:05] And I think they're showing a movie afterwards,

[2:42:07] but Celebrate Fate is a pretty cool thing.

[2:42:09] Lots of vendors, lots of things going on

[2:42:11] and awesome fireworks show.

[2:42:12] So if you're able to make it, come out to Fate,

[2:42:14] we'd love to see you.

[2:42:16] Yep, I can verify it goes from five to eight,

[2:42:18] at eight to eight, 30 is fireworks

[2:42:20] and then after that is a movie.

[2:42:23] Yeah, so commissioners, it might be cool. We can always help with anything else. If not, 1156, we are adjourned.