[0:02] Okay, we are live on two and I will call to order. Abby is running late. She will

[0:09] be here for her once she comes in the door. Um,

[0:15] all right. Public forum. Is anybody here for anything outside the agenda?

[0:24] » We got two folks. Uh Keith Caspar, a district representative for

[0:27] Congresswoman Ashley Hson from Wateroo office. Thought I'd pop up, say hello,

[0:31] see how you guys are doing and just uh wanted to say hello.

[0:36] » Hello. >> Thanks for being here.

[0:37] » Yeah. >> Thank you.

[0:40] » All right. I will entertain a motion to approve the minutes from the previous

[0:45] socly.

[0:48] Any other discussion on the minutes? Hearing none. All in favor? opposed.

[0:54] Motion carries down just your test. Okay, great. Uh

[1:01] I'll entertain a motion for bills payment.

[1:05] » Okay. A motion from B to pay the bills. Second from Tracy. Any discussion on the

[1:08] bills? >> No.

[1:10] » Nothing. All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carried unanimously.

[1:16] All right. Right into the agenda here. uh trees here for that. So, what we got

[1:22] for us today? >> Well, um in April when my daughter had a

[1:27] shower, the trees were thriving in my yard and I had the water tower in the

[1:34] backyard. Well, in May, [clears throat] everything died. The lawn, two trees,

[1:42] and one side of my um crab apple tree is dead. And

[1:50] I'm pretty sure it's from the water tower.

[1:55] » So, would there be anything in the water tower to cause anything to anything?

[1:58] What do we do over there? >> The only thing that happened at that

[2:01] time would have been cleaning the inside of it. And the only thing they do there

[2:03] is water and chlorine. >> That's just on the inside.

[2:07] » That is on the inside. And it drains out the west side.

[2:12] So, it's not like it was >> full with 50,000 gallons and they

[2:15] flushed it. It was a couple thousand. Okay.

[2:19] » I talked to the DNR back when you first said something and they said that the

[2:25] only thing this could be would would be like a surge in chlorine. But he said

[2:31] nothing makes sense. Why didn't your drafts die or why didn't any other trees

[2:34] around there die? So he that was what he told me because there's trees around the

[2:39] water towers. >> There was but like any other trees

[2:41] around any other property. And there's still another live one. You got a maple

[2:44] tree on the north side of your house. Yeah, that one. [clears throat]

[2:48] » It was just must have been like from the wind. Yeah. You know that.

[2:52] » I have no idea. >> I don't know. But the trees were

[2:56] thriving, >> right?

[2:57] » And then all of a sudden they quit. >> Did you get a soil sample or anything?

[3:01] Like just to see what was going on. >> The one of the tree guys that I talked

[3:06] to, he he says it had to be a chlorine surge.

[3:10] » Yeah. >> Like a cloud that came over.

[3:14] » And they used powder chlorine inside. So there would be no air deal. It would

[3:18] have been dissolved in the water by then. It should have been absorbed into

[3:22] the grass right there. So that's all I got. I got nothing to prove that we did

[3:27] or didn't. That's why I was asking about the soil sample.

[3:32] » So you did have an arbur take a look at it.

[3:35] » No. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Okay.

[3:42] » So what can we do? Can we have a tree? Can we have the Can we have a tree to

[3:48] look at? Like >> I have no idea.

[3:52] Is there one or two? >> Two.

[3:54] » Two. Okay. Like I drove by the other day and looked like there was two there. And

[3:57] what what are they? Do you know? >> They're locust trees.

[3:59] » They're locust. Okay. >> And why does it explain why all of a

[4:04] sudden in April it was >> thriving?

[4:08] All of a sudden it died. And then there's parts of, you know, like my

[4:13] garden >> dead all of a sudden.

[4:16] » The same thing. [clears throat]

[4:20] » You the same thing, Mike. >> Okay.

[4:22] » I think I have a bunch of Japanese beetles so things.

[4:29] » Gotcha. It seemed like this year plants that

[4:33] were thriving last year didn't really do so this year.

[4:39] Do we use an arborist for anything? >> We use Dan Dailyaly tech for most of our

[4:44] trees. >> Okay.

[4:45] » I think you need to take some sort of sample of the ground or tree or

[4:48] something. I mean, I don't know. That's my opinion.

[4:51] » Can we have somebody look at it? >> That's what I'm trying to figure out who

[4:56] where >> not really an arist.

[5:00] » I know there's a guy. >> It's been too late. It's already gone.

[5:03] You know, [clears throat] whatever. >> Kevin is up there already.

[5:09] samples. >> There's companies I'm sure

[5:17] » this is from last year. Quick Google search figure out you could do a sample.

[5:22] So >> this is Oh no, this is from 2021.

[5:31] Can you see that from here? [laughter] >> I'm just I'm visual visualizing it for

[5:36] myself. >> Yeah. So, it's it's this one here,

[5:38] right? And there's it's this one here. >> Is

[5:42] » this one's still there? >> I can't see that one.

[5:46] » No, there's only >> There's

[5:49] Yeah, this picture is 5 years old. >> The ratio that

[5:52] » we lost so much. >> Yeah, I was Well, for those that don't

[5:56] know, the Google came through last year right after the ratio, which I guess

[5:59] that was >> coincidence. So, I was hoping that that

[6:02] was the picture that was on here. >> It was like the day after.

[6:04] » It was the morning after. Yeah. >> Was it really?

[6:07] » Yes. >> Yeah. So, if you go through town on on

[6:09] Google Maps, you can see the storm damage.

[6:12] » I was kind of hoping I could see. >> So, two years ago, we had trees taken

[6:17] down. >> Yeah, that's right.

[6:18] » So, this Yeah, this picture's all over. I'm just again just trying to figure out

[6:21] where that Where's that crab apple at? >> Crab apple's back behind the um garage

[6:27] » over here. Okay. >> It's an alleyway.

[6:29] » Yep, I see it. >> Yeah. Can you trim that tree up there?

[6:32] Is that your tree or is that Sever's tree?

[6:34] » Where? One on the corner of that alley that hangs golf

[6:38] » at Seventh Street. >> Seventh Street. Okay, I'll cut it down.

[6:42] [snorts and laughter] >> And then one up on the corner of this

[6:45] house on Cherry Street. Is that yours or is that it too?

[6:48] » I can't picture it. I love to say yes, but I don't know.

[6:52] » I mean, it's right on the corner of the street. Well, the thing is it's it's

[6:55] hanging down and you can't see the road when you're coming by.

[6:57] » It's on the outside of the of what would be the sidewalk. John,

[7:01] » if it is on the outside, that's probably ours.

[7:03] » Okay. So, >> we haven't trimmed any trees around

[7:06] town. That's on the to-do list this fall. So,

[7:12] I' I'd like to get an expert to look at it for all of our our knowledge. Um,

[7:19] obviously they're dead, so you want them down. That's your request. And if we

[7:23] kill them, obviously we're going to pay to take them down.

[7:26] » Um, and I I feel that way, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll look into

[7:30] arborist. >> Wolf. I have no problem doing that as

[7:33] well. So, >> um, we had somebody come do the ash

[7:37] trees and everything. >> And that was from Iowa State, wasn't it?

[7:41] » It was somebody like that. Yeah. >> Yeah. Wasn't it there or from De Moine

[7:45] or something? I think it was us. >> Yeah. They did a They did a host survey

[7:49] and >> Yep. But they had arborists,

[7:51] » counted all the trees and then and she came and spoke.

[7:54] » Yeah. Yep. They were they were great, but I don't know if they'd come in.

[7:58] » So, I'm just trying to think of an arburate.

[8:02] » Kevin Hardy was >> a is a

[8:06] bas. >> Okay.

[8:08] » I mean, I I can get you a list of of guys that take trees down. We can figure

[8:12] out who has their license for the arburest.

[8:15] » Yeah. I just want to see if there's some kind of sample we can get because I'd

[8:18] hate to see it all go. >> Yeah. Should we get them down before

[8:22] they infest other trees or >> or is there something in the soil

[8:25] infesting that so you can't put more flowers or whatever you have in your

[8:27] garden? >> Yeah, you couldn't replant a tree if it

[8:29] was >> right

[8:31] in the ground. >> Yeah. Like the root cause was the result

[8:35] and and all that for you and then we'll work on the trees after that. Getting

[8:41] back after that. >> Well, I don't think that I'm just kind

[8:43] of thinking through this the process in my head.

[8:46] Um yeah. Can we look at that for you? Get

[8:50] back to >> you. We'll work on getting the arist and

[8:53] getting those samples done. We'll share everything with you. Obviously,

[8:55] » we'll let you know before Well, do you need him? Do you need permission?

[8:59] » Well, absolutely. I wanted to have permission. I want her to be there or

[9:02] someone there. >> She probably won't be there, but yeah, I

[9:06] mean, I can work remotely that way. Figure out how to do it.

[9:10] » Yeah, it's not fair. Someone just coming your property. I want you to be a I want

[9:13] you in the whole process. >> Okay.

[9:15] » And if you want to get your own as well, you're more than welcome to. Um but

[9:19] yeah, we're I mean we can go to the tree service. We can we'll kind of talk about

[9:23] it >> out.

[9:26] » Yeah. >> Because that is definitely not an area

[9:31] of expertise of me or anybody at this table.

[9:34] » So >> crazy.

[9:37] » Yeah. >> An asht tree. We can we can explain

[9:40] that. >> I had those taken down. Oh yeah. Few

[9:44] years ago. Yeah. >> So, did you say it was a crab apple or

[9:47] what kind? >> A crab apple is in the crab in the

[9:50] alleyway. >> Okay. Yeah. And then two locust trees.

[9:54] » Yeah. And they're massive. >> The crab apple is probably old, right? I

[9:58] mean, it's I mean, it's older. It's a big And then it's one side that's dead.

[10:02] The [clears throat] other side is so crazy. So,

[10:04] » if you drive >> I haven't been by there.

[10:06] » People buy it looks like they've been dead for years.

[10:09] » Yeah, >> it does.

[10:10] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[10:14] » Yeah. when I when I initially heard of it. Okay, go look.

[10:17] » You just cut half of it off. I don't know how that works.

[10:21] » He could I mean whoever comes can give us some.

[10:24] » But again, if we need to treat that tree,

[10:27] not

[10:30] » because I mean an old I love crab apples and

[10:35] hate to lose it if it's salvageable, you know.

[10:38] » Does that work for you today? >> Yep, that works.

[10:40] » Awesome. >> All right, we're in touch with you.

[10:43] Thanks for coming in. >> Thanks. [clears throat]

[10:45] » See if we can get answers for you. >> All right. Planning and zoning vac.

[10:54] » What's that? >> So, we got a bypass. I made a boo boo.

[10:57] I'm supposed to put it in the paper. So, and I haven't done that yet.

[11:00] » Aha. >> Next meeting.

[11:02] » All right. >> You guys aware of that?

[11:07] » Okay. I just want to make sure it wasn't a surprise to you.

[11:11] » Okay. Great. Thank you. Stop sign.

[11:15] » Um, so at the chicken barbecue, I had a resident on Oak approach me about the

[11:21] temporary four-way stop that was put at the corner of Oak and West Drive South

[11:26] » for the 10 days for Truck B and the truck pass and the request was,

[11:32] is there a way we can make that permanent?

[11:35] Um, and I said, I don't know. Let me do a little research. So I I talked to Cody

[11:40] a little bit research on it and if you go back to the MUTCD

[11:47] it's never going to meet the threshold of the minimum 200 traffic in an 8 hour

[11:52] time per won't do that. Yeah, we looked under second floor.

[11:54] » Yeah. Um, you know, when I looked at the rest of that read the rest of that

[11:58] control, which is really a wonderful reading,

[12:01] uh, Oaks and extremely narrow streets actually less than 20

[12:05] » 20 ft. Uh, where Westby Drive uh, on the west side is about 10 ft wider.

[12:12] » Okay. >> And on the east side, it's narrow.

[12:15] » It's a whole street again. And uh so in looking at the FTC

[12:21] uh I think when you look at it, the fact that Oak is very narrow. It's a feeder

[12:26] street. There are no sidewalks for pedestrians whatsoever. There's a ton of

[12:31] kids uh in that neighborhood using Oak with walking scooters and adults,

[12:35] bicycles, golf carts, UTVs. uh anybody that's parked along creates a

[12:42] site pattern the hassle just get around it which there's not a ton but

[12:47] uh when you look at the uh MUTCD if you go to section 2B.17 it basically says

[12:53] you could use all of those other factors and you don't have to meet the 200

[12:57] vehicle threshold it's not necessary because Rockwell's never going to meet

[13:01] any intersection we have to be honest without doubt

[13:06] um and so you know I would recommend that we do a study We look at similar

[13:10] intersections in town. There's a four-way stock at Maine and Oak

[13:15] and Maine really west of there go nowhere. I think that was bas

[13:22] first is a three-way and the Monro first is three way appear just to be to slow

[13:26] people down both those sections but you can't use speed to do it in any way

[13:31] shape or form but elk is feeding about 53 doors

[13:37] uh coming off Elm and coming in so there's quite a bit of home and activity

[13:42] up in there I think there's still two daycarees operating in the neighborhood

[13:46] » if I'm not mistaken one of my west you drive north and the

[13:49] other is south. I think it's worthwhile to take a look and have somebody look at

[13:54] and see is that is there a safety issue there?

[13:58] Are we really protecting the kids because traffic is going up and down

[14:02] there quite fast and it's a shortcut? They they don't want to use the other

[14:06] one because they got stopped there on >> somebody this morning on my way to work

[14:11] just >> and they're hauling down there. And I

[14:14] think I think if we can base it if we we look at it base enough I'm not safety

[14:19] hazard narrow street no sidewalks ton of kid traffic scooters which are another

[14:25] whole subject all themselves but that's um I don't these kids are going to get

[14:30] hurt those things >> can't stop them

[14:33] » and so I would just recommend at least we we consider doing a informal stud

[14:38] here however we do that >> is there props outlined in that guide

[14:42] you're >> absolutely there

[14:45] Like we have to bring somebody in to do it is something.

[14:48] » No, not really. Here, I'll pass. >> Just put you on a recliner in the

[14:52] corner. [laughter]

[14:58] » It actually kind of lays this out.

[15:02] What you're looking at if you go down to the

[15:07] 17 there, we see warrant for other factors. Yeah, I should have enough

[15:10] copies for those guys. uh pedestrian bicycle movement similar residential

[15:15] collector streets which we could use the others I mentioned uh local factors

[15:19] narrow streets uh in the sense no sidewalks scooters parking reduced with

[15:24] visibility I if you go in there we can make the case for all that

[15:28] » sure >> at that point and maybe maybe there's

[15:32] some war to slow people down coming through there

[15:37] » yeah I don't think it hurts anything e >> yeah I mean but you'll never reach the

[15:40] 200 threshold if you try to go up and use 16. It isn't going to happen. You

[15:44] can see we're 16. In a smaller community, it's 200. Got to be greater

[15:47] than 200. >> Oh, there's a time that

[15:53] the young starter had some pretty good road. And I saw that this summer.

[15:58] » She did. >> She dumped it.

[16:01] » I think my mother had it.

[16:04] » Didn't slow her down. I can't. >> No, you you did slow her down one inch.

[16:09] Um, I told him I'd bring this forward and see where it went. So, I'm sharing

[16:14] that the research that I've done on it and like I said, I talked to Cody and

[16:18] sounds like once we look at it, if we can base it, it's kind of the council

[16:22] decision. So, >> what are next steps?

[16:25] » I think the next step is to sit down uh and do a little bit of a study. I don't

[16:30] say anybody has to sit out there for eight hours, but then you go out and

[16:33] take a few measurements and and look at it. you're going to draw a conclusion

[16:36] pretty darn quick that you could justify it. And the fact that we do have 300

[16:41] stops in town that you could use as hey we've done this in this week for reason

[16:49] that point. So >> Cody, you're in favor of this?

[16:52] » Yeah. >> I live right there and I can tell you

[16:56] people get around the stop sign up on on personal.

[16:59] » You can you can zip right around it because you got a yield sign up there to

[17:03] go in west drive north.

[17:08] It is extremely narrow little street.

[17:15] » They're very nice.

[17:20] » That's the research I did. I told him I'd bring it for the resident and I'll

[17:23] let them know what what was decided. But it seemed like a reasonable request to

[17:27] at least take a look at and see if we can justify

[17:34] interesting manual to get in or start reading. I'm sure

[17:39] » do we a motion to start something or I don't know what the next steps are.

[17:46] » I motion to make a study. I would so move to make a motion to do a study on

[17:51] the corner of Oak and Westview Drive South. I have a motion based on the

[17:57] statute there. That's >> motion Don to uh initiate a study for

[18:04] the intersection of both street and west view drive south

[18:11] of a saying

[18:15] [laughter]

[18:18] » for a four-way stop. Okay. Is there a second on that?

[18:21] » I'll second Tracy. All in favor >> opposed carries.

[18:28] » Um we have our streets committee or do you want to lead this

[18:34] recommend streets as far as streets like for

[18:38] hardware or like we want to have streets involved in this and I took everything.

[18:45] » I I think that's who we involved in my streets.

[18:58] YouTube [laughter]

[19:03] safety. >> Yeah, public safety probably should

[19:06] weigh in as well. >> All right,

[19:08] » you just don't meet together. Um,

[19:18] » no, that's that's Bradley. Stitzsworth that is now OK.

[19:22] » So what what's Fitzsworth and >> uh your buildings and grounds

[19:28] uh finance and equipment and water? >> I know that you

[19:36] all right finance report.

[19:43] Is this just a motion? Is this a resolution? I don't remember.

[19:46] » This is a resolution. Okay.

[19:52] She's getting too good. >> She did. Oh my god.

[20:00] » So essentially what you're looking at here is your packet industry finance

[20:04] report [snorts] and this is essentially what we road tax. Right. Right. So this

[20:10] is the money that uh Rockwell obtains from the state based on use the

[20:16] road for depreciation.

[20:20] So that's based on gas tax that

[20:28] we're at. We're looking at a grand total of 40,926 for the fiscal year. Correct.

[20:34] That's what it is.

[20:39] » That's about half of our >> Okay.

[20:44] I'll entertain a motion resolution here. >> I make a motion to approve resolution

[20:50] 2026. >> Okay. Second.

[20:53] » Second. We're going to do roll call vote. Tracy

[21:01] are unanimous. All

[21:06] right. Old business

[21:12] got it

[21:19] where we stand with the conversation Shelley had

[21:25] about the ISU part bringing them in >> last meeting.

[21:29] » Yeah. >> Last meeting.

[21:30] » Last month. Yeah. Um

[21:32] » I know she sent a email out that we had looked into that as well.

[21:36] » Yeah. So Laura and I were talking about [clears throat] it and it I wasn't at

[21:40] the meeting for but it sounded like what we gathered from it was going to cost us

[21:46] a lot of money for them to just do a study.

[21:48] » That's kind of what I got >> when we already know kind of we need

[21:52] economic development. We need these things but we don't have anywhere to put

[21:56] them. So, we didn't know if it was really worthwhile to do this study and

[22:01] pay all this money for them to tell us exactly what we already know

[22:04] » because we did the comp plan. >> Yeah, maybe not.

[22:06] » Yeah. >> And that I'm pretty sure it was to do

[22:09] August 31. [laughter] >> That's curious if we had ever done it or

[22:13] not done it. I didn't know. >> I think it was the 26.

[22:18] » And so, >> I definitely

[22:20] » So, we didn't do it, which is probably >> we didn't do it. And I had talked to

[22:22] her. She has some other ones um that I feel like would be better fitting for

[22:27] Rockwell. >> She just sent something a week or two

[22:32] ago. You got that? >> Yeah. So, I was waiting

[22:40] city. It was houses that we moved from different properties was where she was

[22:45] really is where we come up from a lot of money to make that happen.

[22:49] » Yeah. seemed like if we were doing what we're doing from the start,

[22:54] » you know, it was hit and miss how much we were doing on study in order to make

[22:57] it feasible, >> right?

[22:59] » And you know, habitat and stuff wasn't feasible most of the time because they

[23:04] don't have that kind of resource money. >> Yeah.

[23:07] » So, >> so I'll look more deeply into the other

[23:11] ones that I think would benefit more so than that one is going to

[23:15] » Yeah, that wasn't really very much time. No, that was I saw that email and I

[23:20] wonder what we ever did.

[23:29] » Any other old business to discuss? >> What about um our nuisance tax

[23:36] in the main street areas? What are we at? Where are we at? Because we got to

[23:43] be getting close to 180 days, don't we? I haven't noticed

[23:53] around a while. >> He was here this summer quite often.

[24:03] » Registration paper. >> No.

[24:09] » The other one

[24:13] » hasn't touched anything at all the summer.

[24:16] Which one? >> Johnson.

[24:21] » So, can we look into how close we are so we can

[24:24] » Any other questions the general too >> those finds.

[24:32] Um, I did reach out to Zach. Help me out. What's his name? Apartment.

[24:39] Yeah. >> So, when the tent was up,

[24:43] » I reached out to him about getting that cleaned up and I asked about the tree as

[24:46] well and he told me it was going to be taken care of. The tent is taken care

[24:50] of. The tree is not. So, >> we did have minions in here. They were

[24:56] attempting, but they were going to come back with a skid loader, but then it

[25:00] started raining and it got muddy. So, >> I'm thinking they kind of forgot about

[25:04] us. They seemed like they had tons of other properties they do the same thing

[25:08] at. So, >> so I should text another one maybe,

[25:12] » Dad. Or give him a little bit more time. I don't know. One of the two text.

[25:17] » Yeah, >> sounds good.

[25:20] » Maybe he'll say, "Oh, yeah. They're coming next Tuesday."

[25:23] » Right. >> Hopefully,

[25:31] business. >> Have we talked to Robert at all about

[25:35] this? Okay.

[25:39] » He's not mowing. Well, you know, um >> well, now that there

[25:43] » Yeah, I mean Ryan was >> on the letter.

[25:47] » And now that somebody else has moved in, he's not moving. Getting

[25:53] knee behind.

[26:11] I was kind of curious approach one time about down by Spencer's place. Um, it'

[26:17] be on Main Street. There's a building that's in the rightway and also then

[26:23] parking the trailer in the rightway. Going to happen basically after you put

[26:27] the fence in be uh right on the corner of Maine. It's whatever Spencer Street

[26:33] is

[26:37] » be on the east side of the street there. if you went down the main from Spencer's

[26:43] theyard.

[26:47] » But somebody approached me want to know um how they were able to keep a building

[26:53] on the city right away in the trailer. >> I think it's abandoned, isn't it? Isn't

[27:00] that an abandoned alley? Is that why >> that is still an alley?

[27:04] » That was not in the alleyway. I look to make sure

[27:12] it's actually

[27:17] » Yeah, >> I might bring it up on Google and see if

[27:22] I can find [clears throat] that.

[27:25] » So, so it looked like after they put the fence in, the building just stayed out

[27:31] of city right away. It looks like main and sixth.

[27:34] » Mhm.

[27:37] Whose building is

[27:49] » which one spells here? >> Right.

[27:51] » Yeah.

[27:54] » Over here. >> Oh, here.

[28:00] » So, is this where this one?

[28:03] » Yeah. >> Is that in the right way?

[28:08] Is that where we're still sitting at though?

[28:09] » Yeah.

[28:19] » It's on. Is the fence still there? >> Yes.

[28:24] » So, it's on the outside of the fence.

[28:30] » 35 going on this one. From

[28:36] this angle, it's only inside the trees. There's an alley there. There's a tree

[28:42] or an alley. >> I'm going to come look.

[28:44] » I was I can put up on the screen if you want to.

[28:47] » That tree. >> Probably not.

[28:49] » It's not. [laughter]

[28:54] » That's what we're looking at. This tree no longer exists. This is the

[29:00] building we're talking about right there.

[29:01] » Yeah. little trailer sets right side.

[29:05] » Oh, there's a trailer down here too on this side.

[29:08] » On that side of the building, right? >> On the south side.

[29:11] » West side of the building. >> I don't think that's permanent fixture

[29:16] by any means. The trailer. >> Yeah, I don't I don't think it sits

[29:21] there often. >> Yeah. I don't know.

[29:24] » Is it up about I drove over and looked at it. What kind of trailer

[29:31] is it? What's that? >> What kind of trail

[29:34] or like? >> No, it's it's just a golf trailer.

[29:38] » Just a small kind. I'm looking straight ahead.

[29:42] » Yeah. I mean, it could >> I don't I don't think it's there often

[29:44] because it's in a driveway quite a bit, too.

[29:46] » So, it moves.

[29:50] » Put it there for the moment.

[29:56] » Okay. >> I'm pretty sure my husband's just as

[30:00] guilty. [laughter]

[30:04] Well, I think everybody is this time of year before it gets to be the time when

[30:08] you have to take off the >> street.

[30:13] [clears throat]

[30:26] Can't see it from there. Okay. >> Can't see it. I just want to kind of

[30:31] look down in the rightway. But I mean >> that trailer that's on that side

[30:36] » over here. No, it's over here. >> He usually has all his stuff pretty

[30:39] well. >> That's somebody picking up trees from

[30:40] the Datio. >> Oh, yeah.

[30:44] » It's sitting behind this here. So like this tells me the rightway is here,

[30:52] but he's a corner lot. Does that change? >> Corner lot could have a building. You

[30:58] got to get a variance, right? variance for it.

[31:03] » Doesn't look like they just put it there.

[31:05] » No, it's been there a while.

[31:09] » Does somebody not like it there? >> They just were wondering how somebody

[31:14] could do that on a corner lot when they come. So,

[31:19] » I mean, fair question. >> Yeah, [clears throat]

[31:21] » question. >> Is that where a sidewalk would normally

[31:26] go? What's that? Is that where a sidewalk

[31:30] would would normally have been? >> This is where a sidewalk would be,

[31:33] right? >> I don't know. We're not We're not going

[31:35] up and taking measuring. >> I was looking to see if there was

[31:39] anything

[31:42] over here. Oops. Wrong way.

[31:49] » There we go. I can't get right where I want to be. But just kind of eyeballing

[31:54] where this sidewalk is. Yeah, if you look at the fence it's up against, you

[31:59] would think the fence would be up against the sidewalk

[32:02] » and the the shed on the outside would be right on the sidewalk,

[32:07] » right?

[32:11] » Yeah, it looks like it'll be right on the sidewalk.

[32:14] » Um, let's go. [clears throat] >> I go too far.

[32:18] » Looks like his garage is on zero line. >> Yeah, you keep going there.

[32:22] » I'm trying to go. I'm just trying to look at it from different angles here.

[32:24] Yeah, >> this is on Beacon.

[32:25] » And again, I can't. This is Beacon. Yes. >> Oh, no. No. This is Google Maps.

[32:29] » If you look at it on Beacon, it's not in the right way.

[32:34] » It's inside this lot area.

[32:45] » Thank you. >> Perfect. Clearly.

[33:06] in the right place inside the blue.

[33:11] » It is >> looks like he's got a little wiggle

[33:14] moving around right there too. If you if you go by setbacks and stuff,

[33:22] there's no way that building could be there.

[33:24] » Yeah, because it's corn lot. >> But is it granded in there for so long?

[33:30] » That's the other thing. Yeah. It's not like you just put it up.

[33:33] » There could have been a meeting way back in the day when he did put it up.

[33:36] » Could have got permission. Yeah. To put it there.

[33:38] » But it's inside his lot, right? >> Yeah. It's inside the line. Yep. This is

[33:42] the right way here. And this is this line is is this property line. Well,

[33:48] » the trailer we said that could be another issue.

[33:53] » But then we'd have to go back through all the

[33:55] » figure out when the trailer could be though on the south side of that little

[33:59] building. >> They said it was on the west said you

[34:02] said it was on the west side of the building. Right.

[34:03] » Right. So that might be out of the that might be in the right way.

[34:10] » I mean the trailer is hit. >> Sure. It doesn't part

[34:15] every night, >> right? and it wasn't upward and and it's

[34:18] there once a while. Once a while it's parked beside the shed sometimes it's

[34:22] » so it's moving that's that's what we ask >> that they both

[34:27] » and a lot of times in the drive on the boat there.

[34:30] » So

[34:34] » well the answer is it's on his property and not in the right way.

[34:39] » And again he's moving the he's moving the trailer.

[34:41] » Yeah. >> We don't want him just sitting there.

[34:45] Yeah.

[34:49] » Right.

[34:53] » All right. What else we got for business?

[34:58] » You talked a little bit about having, you know, Jackson landscaping come and

[35:02] Laura hasn't been able to get a hold of him yet, but um

[35:07] there >> Yeah.

[35:11] What do you guys think? Can you throw a chain around it and just pull those out?

[35:15] Those two bushes. >> I'm sure the roots are in there, but

[35:20] » I just thought I'd ask. >> Try anything. [laughter]

[35:29] [laughter]

[35:32] » I just wondered if you could pull them out of there. That'd be one less eyesore

[35:35] and then we could still have somebody come and do the

[35:39] paving or the actual whatever. in favor of whatever we're going to do

[35:44] there. >> I didn't know if that I mean if you

[35:48] thought it was really dumb, we wouldn't do that.

[35:50] » Well, it's worth a shot. You know, >> I don't know how hard they would get

[35:53] out. I pull a little sidewalk with about that.

[35:59] » I hope not. >> Great condition anyway. She's

[36:03] deteriorating.

[36:07] Usually pushes don't

[36:11] » just thought I'd ask that >> that was possible.

[36:22] [clears throat]

[36:24] All right,

[36:26] we're moving to community reports. All right,

[36:33] I had EMS meeting forever ago, week and a half ago. Uh

[36:41] I don't know off off the off the pattern meeting. Uh we've had two counties

[36:48] approach Sarto about absorbing them with our emergency management department.

[36:55] » Absorbing what? >> Absorbing those two counties into our

[36:58] emergency management. >> Oh

[37:00] » yeah. So we'd have one manager for three counties

[37:04] because the manager of those two counties is retiring.

[37:08] » So they were asking you be interested in joining them. We were joined with Worth

[37:13] County at one point but for I you know issues unknown in the

[37:20] group at the time. We don't know why this there was a split m but uh it's

[37:27] Franklin they're not it's Hancock and they're requesting this. So

[37:35] we're just again doing fact finding right now. Is it worth it? What would

[37:39] that put on our team? Would we have to hire more people?

[37:42] » Would they pay part of that >> toward that budget? Yeah. But their

[37:46] budget is strictly the salary of that person. Sure. That one person. So,

[37:51] » uh I think their combined budget is about what our budget is

[37:57] kind of twothirds of what we um and we asked our manager. He's

[38:03] interested >> and what did they

[38:05] » maybe you know he doesn't know what it's entailed. He had to hire you to hire at

[38:10] least one more person

[38:15] for him too far. So

[38:20] » and we kind of talked about the ratio where Brick got hit, Ventur got hit,

[38:24] Rock,

[38:31] » but we're going to meet with those commissions and

[38:35] say yes, no. Was it worth it? Whatever. >> Another meeting to come.

[38:46] » It's coming up. >> It's coming up. I knew it was coming

[38:48] because we talked about that.

[38:54] » That's all I got.

[39:00] » 16th talk about that property. >> Okay.

[39:03] » Um and then the landfill gap was close to October.

[39:08] I don't have any numbers on

[39:13] » it's

[39:17] closed and >> everything's closed. Pool's empty.

[39:21] » Thank you. >> Successful season,

[39:24] » I think. So, yeah. I mean, >> the noise was it's getting lower and

[39:30] lower every year. >> Yeah.

[39:31] » I think we're doing a great job. >> And I think that Yeah. I mean, we change

[39:34] the hours based on feedback. And that was fine. That was all good. You know,

[39:39] you try something, it doesn't work, you regroup and try something else, I guess.

[39:42] » We didn't get glasses the last day. So, >> we left out there.

[39:47] » Yeah. Got glass the very last day. >> Was it a lens? Did you find it?

[39:54] » I haven't even looked. >> It was very big slide.

[39:59] » They found a piece. >> It looked It looked like like a lens.

[40:03] But can find any pieces. So it's like all the blue through the pool or this

[40:10] one for sure. So about 3:00.

[40:17] » We have biohazard issues this year. I don't think either.

[40:24] » Clean up clean up outside of the pool.

[40:29] » Yeah, that's good. It's in the pool. I got the kid out before

[40:35] » the dog

[40:40] was good. The kids did a great job. >> I'm trying to find Tracy's granddaughter

[40:46] and staying out of here. [laughter] >> She's done a great job.

[40:50] » She gets better every year. She does make it easy and she's getting older and

[40:55] more mature and she's learning the ropes so it does it gets easier for her, too.

[41:00] And you know, at the end of your job, you're gone. People took note right away

[41:05] that that was going to be the case and they kind of buckled down after that

[41:09] happened. >> Yeah, I think so.

[41:12] » A couple that always want to be on the schedule multiple times show work.

[41:17] » That that happens every year. And then just like all of it gets to be about the

[41:21] middle of August, >> are they all in sports? They're all in

[41:26] sports practices start and people go back to college and there just isn't she

[41:31] really wanted to keep it open until on the weekends until Labor Day this

[41:36] weekend and then have Saturday, Sunday, Monday. But

[41:38] » two two guys that could actually do it for to do the rotations,

[41:43] » right? Just wasn't the numbers do it. >> That's funny. When my kids were younger,

[41:48] I never understood why it's closer and now I kids at that age

[41:53] schools whatever.

[41:58] » And you know

[42:04] in the last day we kind of decided that we want to have a bunch of stuff we had

[42:09] to deal with. >> Yeah. So we talked about the last hour

[42:12] giving away stuff and I got to about one the group that basically supported our

[42:18] pool. >> Yeah.

[42:20] » We just basically gave all the stuff away free.

[42:23] » J's like don't be mad. >> Anybody that came in for free.

[42:28] » Yeah. >> Well, what else are we gonna do with it?

[42:32] I mean, every year we we try to buy back, you know, you know, whatever.

[42:38] » We have like maybe two bags of farms left.

[42:41] » Yeah. >> That's the way to do it.

[42:46] » And it's really hard to plan for that because you buy less towards the end of

[42:49] the year, but still. >> But that's just And I ask Jade, you

[42:55] know, before we >> Oh, yeah. She

[42:57] » But she's like, "Well, it saves me a lot of hassle."

[43:00] » Oh, yeah. because then she has to figure out what to do with it.

[43:04] It was good. The kids, like I say, it was more families that have been

[43:07] supporting the whole year >> all the time.

[43:12] » Give them a little.

[43:23] » Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was fine.

[43:26] She said nobody's gonna be like,

[43:32] » "Yeah." So, anyway, we're It has been a good year.

[43:37] She said she wasn't back this year, but you know,

[43:42] [laughter] >> I wouldn't

[43:45] made it so easy because she has everything lined up. She knows the kids,

[43:49] knows which one she can trust. I mean, you don't have to really do anything.

[43:53] does >> does a lot in the morning when it gets

[43:55] to work. So, >> and does way ahead what we're doing

[43:59] » anytime we need a poster or a post or whatever, she can do that in about 5 10

[44:04] minutes. >> Two two things that are pro three things

[44:08] that are probably going to have to happen.

[44:11] One maybe before fall hits is to wire the pump so we don't have a problem

[44:16] again. >> Yeah. to water them pump. So, they're

[44:20] all on one kill switch so we don't run a pump dry.

[44:24] » One of the other things Zach says we need to paint next year.

[44:28] » That's a pretty huge expense. >> And we need to try to get our heater

[44:35] fixed or replaced or something. And that's another huge expense.

[44:40] » Um, we haven't gotten a guy that does that to give us a quote yet. Um, but I'm

[44:47] hoping that once we get a quote, I go talk to some money people and and they

[44:52] get paid for without touching any funds here.

[44:56] That's my goal anyway. And the girls and and all my parents were willing to do

[45:02] some fundraisers towards it. >> Yeah,

[45:04] » the school has given us some permissions to do stuff. So anyway, we're going to

[45:09] try >> have some things

[45:10] » try to hope we get a pump or the heater without having tap into

[45:15] » but that heater has about limped along as long as can live I think. I don't

[45:19] know. >> So the pool's 15 years old roughly and

[45:23] the heater the same. It's just obsolete. It wants to run and then it won't run.

[45:30] And these guys, you know, didn't have parts

[45:33] half the time to fix it. We're trying to make a rental parts and it just in a few

[45:39] days it was really cold. >> Pretty cold.

[45:42] » So So hopefully we can get get some of them

[45:47] items taken care of. The pumps get one pump get shut off the

[45:51] other one this year which we made through the season without it shing his

[45:56] gun but

[46:05] all right anything else in committee reports

[46:09] discussion except for landscape thing

[46:18] Uh, did we get anywhere with Terry Thomas?

[46:24] » He [clears throat] did bring in a tile map to show us

[46:28] » and he said he was going to have trouble.

[46:39] » It's the main

[46:49] In reading the minutes though too, we were going to incur the cost, right, of

[46:54] all that. And that doesn't seem quite fair to me because honestly, the Zeitler

[46:59] Trust has millions of dollars.

[47:05] » I'm not so sure that's correct because it's going to it's going to do better

[47:11] for us, too. There's no doubt about that. It will be easier in the long run

[47:15] for us, but it's going to benefit them as well or whoever rents their land.

[47:21] It's going to benefit them, too. >> So,

[47:25] see why we couldn't split the cost or something. I don't know. It just doesn't

[47:29] that didn't seem quite right.

[47:37] Well, the trust is pretty

[47:50] » estimate to see what it's going to take to

[47:55] » my let's just go east with it, but we need to go right in the middle.

[48:03] It would be worse if we kept it as is.

[48:19] » I mean, it's going to benefit us, sure. But it's going to benefit them, too. So,

[48:23] it seems like if it's mutually beneficial, we should mutually share the

[48:27] cost. That's all I'm saying.

[48:40] Well, it is for the community. I mean, Rockwell is the community. I mean,

[48:48] » okay. Well, I don't I mean, I'm not >> Who's who's in charge of the trust?

[48:54] » I don't know who is the president. Yeah, there's committee. Yeah,

[49:02] » it's not real easy to see. >> I mean, it might be thousands of dollars

[49:09] to

[49:12] » always put a road through it. >> Yeah, grassy

[49:16] mow. >> Get a real gra.

[49:20] » No, I don't know. I just thought I'd throw

[49:24] that in because it just seems like that doesn't that didn't seem quite fair.

[49:29] They have money,

[49:38] » but I know they're limited because we've asked before about them doing different

[49:41] things and they're limited on, you know, he had a pretty

[49:45] » black and white what they could spend money on and what they couldn't and I

[49:48] know that's been a problem in the past for different things.

[49:51] They can only spend x amount of dollars at a time.

[49:55] » Has anybody read what his wishes were for the cemetery?

[49:58] Actually read what he put in there. >> I don't I have never read it

[50:03] [clears throat] and we might have a copy of that here. [cough]

[50:08] » That would be interesting to see. >> It would be good to review it, I think,

[50:11] too. If I don't know if you >> I'll see if I can. Okay, that'd be great

[50:17] because we should maybe look at it and >> that would that would answer a lot of

[50:22] the questions we're having sitting here and having a conversation because if he

[50:24] was that black and white with it, I'm guessing it's spelled out pretty clear.

[50:28] » I think he was pretty black and white with it.

[50:31] » So, >> because they wanted to do things before

[50:33] that they thought we [clears throat] can't do that. [snorts]

[50:37] » What's the name of the trust? >> The Zidler.

[50:40] » Is it the Christian Zidler? >> Yes,

[50:42] » it's public. >> Okay. You can view the documents.

[50:47] » Okay. >> It's registered as a 501c3 foundation.

[50:52] » Okay.

[50:57] » We just need to find a section that deals with that.

[51:01] » Read it. >> And it's called Zidler Trust. Is it?

[51:04] » It's called the Christian Christian and Lou Zidler Trust.

[51:09] » Yeah.

[51:14] That's what it says on the sign anyway.

[51:22] » Documents.

[51:29] [snorts and laughter]

[51:39] » 1993.

[51:44] Okay.

[51:49] [clears throat] >> But it doesn't.

[51:53] » I don't know if it says anything about changing it though. You know what I

[51:56] mean? They're changing. >> Do you want to see it?

[52:00] » I'm good for now.

[52:17] Interesting. Okay.

[52:24] Just looking at I'm looking at all the financials from years past.

[52:32] Okay. Well, we'll look at that later. Um,

[52:38] um, anything else?

[52:42] » Okay, moving to employee discussion. Zach.

[52:47] Um, I set this up for a case study out of the lagoon. Okay, we are going to be

[52:54] trying out this little buoy here. Supposedly, according to all the

[52:59] research that they have done, it helps mitigate the sludge in their pond. It's

[53:05] free. Cost us $0 to do this. We're just collecting information. And what it does

[53:09] is it feeds the sludge. Like it makes it no chemicals, no nothing. It just uses

[53:15] the sun. Really, it's a solar pan on that thing and it just raises the sludge

[53:18] up to the top. So, it actually digests it and everything. It's a lot way

[53:22] cheaper than dredging. Dredging cost a lot of money. We got about two foot of

[53:26] sludge in that thing. So, we can only hold four foot of water instead of full

[53:30] six. >> So, it really works. This is going to

[53:34] help us a lot. >> And how big is it?

[53:36] » Uh, it is 19.7 in by 26. >> A little tiny little tiny guy. Yeah.

[53:42] » Yeah. >> Only thing I got to do is

[53:44] » drone. [laughter] It just floats in there and

[53:47] just does its thing. >> Pre- floats. It's just

[53:51] » Well, it's tied to cables cuz I got to pull it in every two weeks and clean the

[53:54] sensor thing on the bottom. >> Okay. So, you don't have to go in a boat

[53:57] to retrieve it. >> No. No. It's going to be on a rope where

[54:00] [laughter] >> put the white suit on like

[54:05] the dirty cell, too. I jump >> in to go slow.

[54:10] » Yeah. Don't go in there. >> But yeah. No, it seems like a good deal.

[54:14] It's free.99. Doesn't cost us anything. >> No chemicals. that should not harm any

[54:19] part properties of our water. Nothing. >> So, so are they trying to sell it to us

[54:24] though in the long run? >> I would imagine that that they would

[54:27] probably want to do that. And I mean, if this really works and gets rid of the

[54:30] sludge, onetime fee versus 2 million plus dollars to dredge that thing out,

[54:35] that's pretty good deal. But but yeah, that thing has never been dredged and

[54:40] that thing was built in 1982. So, we've made her a long ways with collecting

[54:44] some doodoo.

[54:48] Yeah. >> And it just does the one time

[54:52] » you Yeah. But they're all connected together. So the the effects of the

[54:56] first one travel over to the other two, >> right? But you only put it into one

[54:59] time. >> Only going in the one time. Correct.

[55:01] Yes. And this case study is only a couple months. Like they're coming on

[55:05] Friday to set it up. >> Oh, no. It's on Friday and they're

[55:11] taking it back uh end of November I think.

[55:17] » And so what does it m I mean how do you know whether it's working or not? Just

[55:20] by measuring the sledge in the bottom. >> It'll visibly float to the top of the

[55:24] surface. So the sun can actually start doing its thing and

[55:27] » degrading it. >> Yep.

[55:29] » Yep. Yep. And then at the end we are going to measure the sludge and see

[55:34] exactly how much we have lost. So, >> so yeah, it's going to be quite

[55:41] interesting to see. >> Be interesting. Interested to

[55:43] [clears throat] see how it works. That's all I got.

[55:46] » Okay. >> Just want to buy any equipment or

[55:49] anything. >> No, no. Z

[55:51] $0.

[55:56] » All right. >> Mhm.

[56:06] motion to Tracy. All

[56:09] » in favor?

[56:15] » Who wants to see this? Everybody want to look at it.

[56:20] » Yeah. 13.

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