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[3:51] Oh, there we go. There we go.

[3:53] Now it's better.

[3:54] Perfect.

[3:56] All right. Welcome, everyone, to today's meeting.

[3:58] Monday, June 1st.

[4:01] All right, first I want to say, uh, welcome to Damon, our new CEO.

[4:06] This is his first meeting, so welcome to the council.

[4:10] Thank you.

[4:11] I also like to thank our CAE, uh, Amanda Boris,

[4:14] for stepping in as acting CEO for this past few months,

[4:19] helping us out.

[4:20] And, uh, she did a wonderful job, keeping us rolling.

[4:23] And things worked nicely until such time we could

[4:25] hire our new CEO, Damon, so.

[4:28] I thank Amanda for that.

[4:31] [chair squeak] I'll call a speak to order.

[4:32] [gavel thud]

[4:34] First off, approval agenda.

[4:36] I'd just like to move, um, under new business,

[4:40] the decision document, the comm bid summary.

[4:43] I'd like to move that to after our in camera, the Acom bid summary.

[4:47] We'll have that discussion after our in camera,

[4:49] so we can make a decision on that.

[4:53] Is there anything else? No.

[4:55] No.

[4:57] Okay, can I have a motion on the agenda?

[4:59] Councillor Carson.

[5:00] All those in favor.

[5:01] All is great.

[5:05] Any member to have a conflict of interest on today's agenda?

[5:09] Noted.

[5:12] On to minutes, regular meeting of May 19th.

[5:17] Any errors or omissions that I noted?

[5:21] Can I get a motion to meet?

[5:22] No.

[5:27] for a motion for all

[5:28] Oh, sorry.

[5:29] opposed. All in favor.

[5:31] All is carried.

[5:32] Good.

[5:33] Public meeting, we have none. Delegations of public forum, we have none.

[5:38] Next communications, we have one and that is an Imperial oil.

[5:46] received uh notification about the possible contamination.

[5:54] Don't think the other ones that were supposed to talk about later on

[5:57] count as communications even though they're moved on to new business.

[6:02] Like, I don't put them in communications if there's going to be

[6:04] a resolution of it.

[6:06] So any communications, for example, the stop sign.

[6:09] Um, on Sixth Street.

[6:11] Pleasant Valley and Mount.

[6:14] Yes, there's probably going to be a resolution of that, so it goes down to new business.

[6:19] Okay, I guess I just thought they were a communication too.

[6:21] They are a communication, but it results in a resolution.

[6:24] So I asked the manager and she said that's how she usually does it too, so.

[6:28] If it's if it's wrong, I can certainly move it up though.

[6:31] Let me know.

[6:32] normally if there's something on there, I had to move it down

[6:34] anyways under new business because there's a resolution to be done, right?

[6:36] Yeah, we just picked some stuff and moved it down.

[6:39] Yeah.

[6:40] Or she already had it on the new business there.

[6:44] Usually communications usually just informational with no resolution.

[6:48] Any questions or comments on the

[6:50] Like this is basically the land between the old site and the highway that they're saying is contaminated.

[6:55] And we they just have to let us know. It doesn't mean they're going to clean it up or anything.

[7:01] God forbid.

[7:02] I mean, put a nickel in there.

[7:04] It's a regulatory precautionary notification that they have to do.

[7:08] Do we know if like if it finds its way into a residential property or that there's

[7:15] is there any way we can force them to clean up that site?

[7:22] They can look into it.

[7:23] I know I asked Bob if he'd look at it, to look at their utilities and stuff, so.

[7:28] Like we have all of our water and sewer in the highway.

[7:31] I mean, I it's been leaching out into the highway for years, we dug that curb stop.

[7:37] 15 years ago and you'd be scared to light a match out in that Boulevard.

[7:45] Would that be on their owners or they own the property to get that in with specs with the government?

[7:51] Eventually, but as I understand that they're required to remediate it,

[7:56] but part of that remediation process is letting it sit until it naturally takes care of itself, which could be 50 to 100 years, so.

[8:03] So they're still compliant with the regulations that are in place as I understand it.

[8:08] We met with the ministry over the old SL properties on that.

[8:13] And their requirement right now is to send out a letter. They do not have a mandate from the environment to do cleanups.

[8:23] During that meeting there was 1,800 properties around the province and they weren't mandated to clean up any of the 1,800.

[8:31] That comes up at Suma every so often, right?

[8:33] I would assume so. I've never been to Suma, but I think that's

[8:35] That ends up being just vacant lots or whatever, because they take the building down to make sure they don't have to pay hardly anything for tax

[8:40] and then they have all kinds of games they can play.

[8:44] Yeah, taxes are way cheaper than digging that property out.

[8:47] Yep.

[8:48] Is there any way we can

[8:50] And we end up with a pile of contaminated empty weedy lots along our main drag.

[8:56] Well, is there any way we could like is there any way we could like is there a legal way for us to say, hey, you've got a contaminated property

[9:01] that's vacant, the taxes go up on that?

[9:04] No.

[9:05] I would say no because again, they're following the regulations, so they're in compliant with the regulations that are currently in place.

[9:11] So it doesn't stop the town though from sending out a letter and expressing their concerns and maybe putting some pressure on them, so.

[9:20] Any chance we can have a bylaw that finds them?

[9:24] Well, I think the the I think the only way this changes is if it costs them more to keep it than to clean it.

[9:31] We've been working on Suma for since I started on council.

[9:34] Long time.

[9:35] Yeah. I was before my time too about uh putting in a sub clause

[9:41] or sub class into the Suma when they further discretionary use of properties

[9:48] for contaminated, that just they won't do it.

[9:52] So everyone these will treat as commercial properties and the

[9:56] But it's not commercial, we can't even hardly tax them as commercial because it's a vacant weedy lot.

[10:01] Can you build a building on its own unless you don't have

[10:04] subgrade structure or

[10:06] Sure.

[10:07] I'm not sure.

[10:08] Also not sure.

[10:09] I can look into all this if you want and get some more

[10:11] information on it, so.

[10:12] Because maybe it's marketable for somebody who's just

[10:14] doing a building on it.

[10:15] put another gas station.

[10:17] I don't want 20 years from now or 30 years from now yet

[10:19] another highway plot.

[10:22] Mhm.

[10:23] I think where it comes into play is mortgage companies don't

[10:26] want to put a mortgage on a building that's on

[10:28] I think that's the catch.

[10:30] Orgins.

[10:31] Yeah.

[10:32] Yeah.

[10:34] [throat clearing]

[10:36] Okay, anything else on that?

[10:39] Should be addressed for council?

[10:41] Then you want me to look into this a bit more, or?

[10:43] Well, I wouldn't mind if we had options. I know we've looked at it

[10:46] before, but I don't think there are any options.

[10:48] but I'll confirm and get back to this.

[10:51] They do have it for sale now, so that's a change.

[10:53] We've been asking for them to do something with the property.

[10:56] Now at least it's listed for sale, so that's a change.

[11:00] that they started, anyways.

[11:04] Do they have it as a like for sale for 10 bucks just get rid of it?

[11:08] There's a number on it.

[11:09] They they're selling Lexi and sells.

[11:12] Oh, okay.

[11:13] Full bore.

[11:14] [laughter]

[11:16] No.

[11:17] No, they we're talking about the oil, the other property.

[11:19] It's not even on this agenda.

[11:22] I'm confused.

[11:24] It's the old the other.

[11:27] Okay, we'll continue on.

[11:29] Financial reports, we have none.

[11:31] On to approval of accounts.

[11:34] Uh, yes sir. So just a couple of uh things I'll highlight for you

[11:37] if you've reviewed it, hopefully.

[11:39] So computer check 42071, the amount of $5,780.49

[11:45] was for office cameras.

[11:47] We budgeted $7,292.52 for that, so we came in 26% under budget.

[11:53] Water treatment lines in the arena are still outstanding,

[11:55] so we'll we'll still be getting invoices for that one

[11:57] whenever we do get it, the work finished and invoice for it.

[12:00] Check number 42074 in the amount of $685.10 was for ice cream

[12:05] for the Visitor Center for the summer.

[12:07] It's not for staff. I just wanted to clarify that.

[12:10] Check number 42078 in the amount of $233.09

[12:15] was an annual clothing allowance for safety person

[12:17] personal protective equipment for one of the public works

[12:20] staff in accordance to their HR policies.

[12:23] 42081 in the amount of $3,174.60

[12:27] was the monthly custodial janitorial contract payment.

[12:31] These are all questions I have, that's why I'm explaining it because I have one.

[12:34] Same a few of the same that I have.

[12:36] Uh, check 42088 in the amount of $21,336.59

[12:41] was for the annual financial audit.

[12:43] The reason I bring it up is because it was 7% over budget.

[12:45] We budgeted $20,000 for it.

[12:48] For email funds transfers, transaction number 92

[12:51] in the amount of $55,500 for a Genie Left.

[12:53] It was 8% under budget. We budgeted $60,000 for it.

[12:59] And then finally for the credit cards, transaction number 25,

[13:02] $125.69 for administrative professional day

[13:05] was for treat boxes for the admin staff in the office, as well as

[13:09] over at Orange Memories.

[13:12] What number was that?

[13:13] Uh, number 25 under credit cards.

[13:16] That was for the uh administration day.

[13:17] Yep.

[13:18] And then uh the last one is transaction number 28

[13:21] in the amount of $250.

[13:23] It was $50 gift cards for each of the five staff for the clinic

[13:26] clinic closed.

[13:28] So any other question, any other questions?

[13:30] Uh, your worship, that's it.

[13:32] I have one more.

[13:33] Yes sir.

[13:34] I thought I hit them all.

[13:35] 42090.

[13:37] Education reimbursement. What's that about?

[13:40] 42090 is um as my my understanding is is

[13:45] Andrew's working on his water treatment plant operator ticket.

[13:48] Yep.

[13:49] Oh, okay. He has it.

[13:50] Uh, so with that cuz that's started long before.

[13:53] Yeah, yeah.

[13:54] I got that.

[13:55] I didn't get it explained to me.

[13:56] Okay.

[13:57] He went to take his water treatment course, which he requires for the position he's in.

[14:01] Normally we would challenge the test.

[14:04] He learns better in a classroom setting, so he went and took the course, paid for it on his own.

[14:08] He had to sign a contract that he would stay with the town for X amount of years.

[14:12] We pay him back every year he gets so much until it's paid off.

[14:16] Okay, so our HR policies do support $5,000 for each.

[14:18] Yes, which makes sense.

[14:22] I've got one from the page before, actually, 42084.

[14:27] Community Grant Program.

[14:29] Um, the program just typed in it was Rosetown Community.

[14:33] I'm thinking there's another word after that.

[14:35] I wondered if maybe when those show up in there, if we could put

[14:39] like R instead of Rosetown, so that the whole title gets on.

[14:44] Yeah, or maybe Rtown or something.

[14:45] Yeah, we'll see if I can I'll I'll mention it to Amanda and see if she can make it.

[14:48] Cuz I've noticed that before, that you don't really know what it is, it could be any group.

[14:53] Um, it's pro it's a legitimate group, I'm sure, just it

[14:57] Yeah.

[14:57] And this is all from last year from the SAS lotteries grants application, right? So we're

[15:35] those pay them out now from the

[20:03] all the guys that said work on street

[20:05] Yeah, we've kind of stepped back when they were training guys.

[20:09] We spent about three years helping get all their staff trained in the pool and Splash Park.

[20:13] And then starting last mid-summer we helped them do the full fire up in both facilities last spring.

[20:18] Winterization they did themselves.

[20:21] And then this year we're they're firing up on their own.

[20:23] We're kind of stepping back from that now that they've had a couple years of

[20:27] help getting going with the new staff change over that they had.

[20:32] Okay.

[20:33] So they're pretty much on their own with that stuff now unless again, they request help.

[20:38] Okay.

[20:39] And also cemetery. How are things going over there?

[20:42] We've been got a bunch of the bunch of the bunch of the area for the family Columbarium mapped out.

[20:47] Running string lines, we've started putting forms up today.

[20:50] We'll be working there for the next little while. We've staked out roughly where the Gazebo's going to sit

[20:55] just a rough footprint. We got to square that and start forming it tomorrow morning.

[21:01] Hopefully early next week we'll be looking to book concrete for the first pour out there.

[21:07] Okay.

[21:10] And then again, digging graves and other random work that we do out there.

[21:16] Yeah.

[21:17] That road's really nice too with the new road that connects the front to the back.

[21:20] Yep. The like it's a secondary verb to the old park.

[21:24] That's really nice. I took a little drive there. It's a lot more easier to get from the front to the back.

[21:29] Yeah.

[21:30] Yeah, kind of tied it together and lets it flow a little bit better.

[21:33] Yeah, really nice. Good idea.

[21:38] Any questions on paving Main Street?

[21:41] Yeah, I do have quotes on that as well.

[21:43] They've it's been awarded so that we could maintain the pricing, went with the lowest bidder.

[21:48] So there were three?

[21:49] Yeah, three.

[21:50] Southwest Paving, HJR and GNC are the three companies that provided quotes.

[21:57] GNC did not meet the deadline that they set to even provide the quote.

[22:02] They were supposed to be due on a Wednesday. I phoned them on Friday.

[22:06] They said they'd have it right away, didn't receive anything over the weekend or the end of the day Friday.

[22:11] Reminded them again on Monday, didn't get anything.

[22:13] And by Wednesday, I picked one of the contractors they did supply and they would have come in second anyway,

[22:20] but they didn't meet their deadlines whatsoever that

[22:23] they said they required and they were the longest company to provide a quote as well.

[22:27] Everyone else said they needed a cople days. They were a week and a half and still didn't meet that deadline.

[22:34] And Southwest Paving come in the cheapest to do the Highway 7 to

[22:39] 4th Avenue because at the time we had nose on these other blocks.

[22:45] come in at 416,572, which is under what we had budgeted.

[22:52] What are you doing on the street?

[22:53] HJR

[22:55] was they didn't break theirs out when I explained I wanted these last few blocks separate.

[23:01] They didn't break it all out, but they come in as a total project of 719. They were by far the highest,

[23:07] over 100 grand more than everybody elge when you add in those two blocks.

[23:11] And then GNC come in at 459 894, so they come in second place as well.

[23:17] Fairly reasonable.

[23:19] And those are for the Mill and recap projects.

[23:22] And then timeline, I've been pushing them more to later summer.

[23:28] Is when I'm trying to bring them because

[23:31] Main Street, we want it to cool fairly quickly so we can get it back open

[23:35] if we allow traffic on a freshly paved surface when it's too hot, especially in front of the post office.

[23:40] When vehicles aren't moving and they crank their tires, they will start digging potholes.

[23:44] Yeah.

[23:45] So we've tried to push them off. They're going to be in Bigger doing work.

[23:48] Bigger's pushing them there first thing in the spring.

[23:51] I'm telling them I don't want them till the fall, so we're fighting between us and Bigger right now.

[23:56] So we might be setting up in the area twice because he agrees that he doesn't want to see those potholes dug either.

[24:02] And if it's 35 above on that fresh asphalt, we'll be keeping it closed for

[24:06] a few days before we let traffic on it

[24:09] and that's not fair to all the businesses either. We want to open it up as quick as possible.

[24:15] So, how much more was the budget for the budget for the last two blocks that didn't go there?

[24:21] Uh, well, the budget I don't have that

[24:23] Oh, okay. I thought they had.

[24:24] directly in front of me.

[24:25] sent you a bit on that.

[24:26] Well, they did.

[24:27] Uh,

[24:29] So.

[24:30] Southwest?

[24:30] HJR didn't separate it out, so I can't tell you what theirs was.

[24:34] Southwest was a full mill and recap streetwide because

[24:38] council discussed they didn't want to increase the crown.

[24:42] Yeah.

[24:43] So they come in at 196 460 to do from Fourth Avenue to Sixth Avenue.

[24:48] And GNC said they only wanted to mill the gutters and not and overlay the center to increase the crown

[24:53] and they came in at 140 for those two blocks.

[24:59] So basically 100,000 a block.

[25:01] Yep.

[25:03] Pretty.

[25:03] I think that's reasonable.

[25:04] Yeah, no idea, yeah.

[25:06] No, that's mill and recap, that's

[25:09] mill down and two and a half inch leveling course

[25:11] and then two and a half inches of pavement.

[25:14] Yeah.

[25:18] So for the future, could we have them

[25:22] or you have them look at some side streets

[25:27] if to see what it would cost approximately?

[25:29] Can they do that? Yeah.

[25:31] Because I would do that.

[25:33] That's what I think. Okay, so

[25:35] let's say next year we say we're going to do

[25:37] two streets or four streets for sure.

[25:40] And if they do that ahead of time, they'll have some idea.

[25:43] And I guess that comes down to what direction

[25:46] council wants to provide us.

[25:47] wants to go, which yeah. Which way we want to go.

[25:49] Because doing these type of jobs, mill and recap, if you don't have

[25:53] good drainage on the street,

[25:54] you're not changing the lay of the land with a mill and recap.

[25:57] You're taking it off and you're putting it on.

[25:59] So if council's not concerned about whether or not it's going to hold

[26:01] water in areas,

[26:03] mill and recaps do smooth the street out,

[26:05] but they are not the same as a full reconstruction.

[26:08] and in the past we've always geared towards getting

[26:10] better drainage on our streets to get the water off them.

[26:13] 'Cause regardless of how old your pavement is, if you get water

[26:16] underneath it, you end up with failures.

[26:19] Yeah.

[26:20] So mill and recap is a rule last how long?

[26:23] Mill and recap, it's resurfacing, it depends on your failure rates

[26:25] that you already have in the street eventually,

[26:28] if you have lots of failure rates, you're gonna end up with breaking,

[26:30] spidering, stuff like that on a street

[26:33] that isn't

[26:35] it's putting another 20-year driving surface on a street

[26:37] if you mill and recap at the appropriate time.

[26:41] You take a street that's completely blown out

[26:42] and just throw pavement on top,

[26:44] you're only getting a few years out of that before you see failures again.

[26:48] So there's candidates for a mill and recap,

[26:51] and that can change year by year depending on the spring we have.

[26:56] So explain exactly, so everybody understands

[26:58] mill and recap.

[27:00] That they take up the old pavement?

[27:02] They take a grinder basically and grind it up, load it in the truck.

[27:06] Okay.

[27:07] And so whatever we're requesting that we want milled off,

[27:10] typically it's two, two and a half inches,

[27:12] depending on the contractor.

[27:14] They'll grind that all off and then lay just a leveling course down,

[27:17] so because right now our streets are doing this,

[27:20] they'll drag their bar and it you'll only be a half inch thick

[27:23] on the highs and you might be two inches thick on the lows,

[27:27] and then they put a paving course on top of that.

[27:29] On top of that.

[27:30] And it gives you your smooth driving surface, but we're not changing

[27:33] gutter lines, we're not changing the shape of the street.

[27:37] So last time Main Street was done was what year?

[27:39] It was an overlay and it was mid 90s.

[27:42] And it lasted till now.

[27:44] Yeah. Yeah, as an overlay.

[27:46] So let's say mid 90s, 95, 2026.

[27:51] 35.

[27:52] That's that's quite a while.

[27:53] Yep.

[27:55] So if you did that on some side streets.

[27:57] If we have any.

[27:59] What side street would you say would be a candidate

[28:02] for a mill and recap?

[28:04] All of them, as far as I'm concerned.

[28:06] Well,

[28:07] I I don't know about that.

[28:08] I mean I think you got to look at it.

[28:09] 'Cause there's no point.

[28:10] Yeah, I think you got to look at.

[28:11] There's no point in putting a $100,000 in a side street that

[28:14] two years later you got to dig back up or just cracks immediately.

[28:17] So we just lasted only two years?

[28:20] Some of them did.

[28:21] Absolutely some of them did.

[28:22] Which, which one?

[28:24] King Street. They had to dig that up.

[28:25] George had to dig that up.

[28:26] Right?

[28:27] It wasn't done originally right, King Street, right?

[28:29] No, it was done, it was

[28:31] It was done what was the standard at the time.

[28:34] Rosetown was used a lot when we did our paving,

[28:37] the normal was stabilized clay.

[28:39] So they just took our clay, work it back and forth,

[28:42] they add a stabilizing agent,

[28:44] like a bentonite basically, they add that into the soil, it hardens

[28:48] and they pave directly on top of it.

[28:50] But everybody sitting around this table knows what happens

[28:52] to our dirt when you get wet.

[28:54] Our pavement, we our oldest street in town is 1973.

[28:56] We've got our life out of our pavement, it's not as if

[28:58] it was done wrong,

[29:00] it was done what was used at the time,

[29:02] but nobody did pavement in the 80s.

[29:04] 80s,

[29:05] start of the 90s, nothing, everyone left the streets,

[29:07] it wasn't a priority at the time,

[29:10] there was other things going on in the community.

[29:12] And now we have streets that are 45, 50 years old and

[29:16] driving services have a 20-year life expectancy,

[29:20] we should be milling and recapping a 20-year-old street

[29:22] to stop moisture from getting underneath it.

[29:25] Like you take the George Street from 6th to 9th.

[29:28] That was done in 2000 and four going off the top of my head.

[29:33] Somewhere in there.

[29:34] So it's like 22 years.

[29:35] We should be doing a mill and recap on that.

[29:37] But it's still one of our best streets.

[29:38] But you're seeing the duck pond show up.

[29:40] You've seen that.

[29:41] As they hold water, you'll start to see failures.

[29:44] Then you start diggin' up streets.

[29:45] But that lasted a long time.

[29:47] Yep.

[29:49] You just got to stay doing something.

[29:50] We've had a lot of years where we jump back and forth.

[29:55] Like we did heavy paving from '03 to 2011,

[29:57] we were paving every single year.

[30:02] And then the town didn't propose any.

[30:05] pavings from 2011 to 2019.

[30:07] Yep.

[30:08] I have a proposal.

[30:09] Let's have a paving meeting and talk about paving.

[30:12] Yeah, that's

[30:14] Like, I I think we got to decide well in advance.

[30:18] Yeah.

[30:19] So and and we got to say to these people in these streets

[30:24] as quick as possible, like who wants paving?

[30:27] But to me, you can pay 50.

[30:29] Fifth Avenue anytime you want. It's fucking out I say.

[30:33] Pave Let's go fifth next. Next few blocks.

[30:37] Let's go two blocks down fifth.

[30:38] That might be one you might have to dig up and redo the whole thing.

[30:41] We've went through me and or myself and Riley, we've walked the whole

[30:45] downtown core

[30:47] cuz that was the next area to kind of target to bring to you guys.

[30:49] Yep.

[30:50] They've put together a rough proposal and I believe you're working on that

[30:53] as well with off of Acom's documents.

[30:56] And again, that was just a walking through it. That's no core sampling,

[30:59] that hasn't been to design, to no grades, anything.

[31:02] That was just, okay, this is how many feet we got. These are roughly what

[31:05] we're thinking of the street.

[31:07] And that'll be brought to you.

[31:09] Okay, good.

[31:10] Yeah. I'd say give me I probably keep in mind I only have five days

[31:13] under my belt.

[31:15] Yeah.

[31:16] I I have I have

[31:17] Well, we expected you to have this all mind already.

[31:21] I had review. We gave you five days, man. That's 40 hours.

[31:25] Acom Acom has done a 15-year paving plan for Rosetown.

[31:29] Yeah.

[31:30] So they the priorities.

[31:32] The next streets.

[31:33] Yeah.

[31:34] We identified the priorities, so

[31:36] I did talk to Bob about it, so

[31:38] um, I a couple weeks so to break it down, refresh that plan with Acom

[31:41] cuz I don't even know what I don't know if they changed.

[31:43] Is that possible we should something following out a little more rigidly?

[31:46] Is that program?

[31:47] Well, we paid for that.

[31:48] Like we paid we paid them engineering fees to put together a paving plan

[31:51] for us, right?

[31:53] Yeah, so that was kind of some background on that.

[31:55] That was a walk through same as we do for any of it. We'll pick an area,

[31:58] we do a walk through, so we have a future of where we're going

[32:01] and rough estimates on it.

[32:03] Then taking that information, I usually would bring you a paving project.

[32:08] You guys decide how much per year.

[32:11] The way we have been going since 2019 is every second year we were doing

[32:16] local improvements.

[32:18] The years in between we were doing flankage because we had a bunch of

[32:22] flankage that wasn't getting done.

[32:24] The direction from council that time was between 800 and 1.2 million

[32:28] dollars is what projects to bring.

[32:31] So then again, I would take that whole area that Acom has mapped out and say,

[32:35] okay, we can do these streets, they're in the worst ones of the bunch.

[32:40] So let's pick these blocks and it works out to $1.2 million.

[32:45] Then I'd bring those projects to you guys and you would decide yes or no.

[32:48] Yes.

[32:49] Okay.

[32:51] So we'll we'll bring something to council as need,

[32:53] you know, a few

[32:55] You need some time, so.

[32:56] No, I need to break down the. Need to take it back to make sure that they're

[32:58] still staying behind that if it needs to be updated,

[33:00] then Bob and I'll sit down and we'll see if we can put something together

[33:03] for council.

[33:04] That makes sense.

[33:05] Like the last one we were working off of was from about 2015 or 2018

[33:10] was the rough estimates we had.

[33:17] Okay.

[33:18] Sounds great.

[33:19] Yeah, any questions?

[33:22] Thanks, Bob.

[33:23] Okay, thanks, Bob.

[33:24] Thank you.

[33:25] Next, water treatment supervisor.

[33:29] All the numbers look good. I don't see any red lines or anything.

[33:34] Any comments about the water plant operations going good there?

[33:37] Uh, trim plant's going good. Few brown water calls after our dead end flushing.

[33:42] Yeah.

[33:43] Went through a pile of water on that.

[33:47] It's a good tip to have on Facebook about running the water in your tub.

[33:50] It's not going through your screen.

[33:52] Yeah.

[33:53] So I had brown water at my house, so I ran my bath up for 5 minutes

[33:55] and it was all gone.

[33:57] Yeah, and typically all that is is iron deposits that settle out in our

[33:59] mains.

[34:01] It's nothing that's going to hurt you,

[34:03] but it's stains your white clothes.

[34:05] if it gets cut in the white.

[34:07] Yeah.

[34:08] It was a little longer this time when you notice about half an hour it took

[34:10] me to get mine, but

[34:12] must have been just the way it was, but

[34:14] Or you could wait till everyone else runs their water and then

[34:17] we could have the water.

[34:19] Did you just have to clean out your hose?

[34:22] No, somebody watered our flower garden

[34:25] for a while.

[34:26] [laughter]

[34:27] And on on Waterless Wednesday.

[34:30] There will be some more notices going out like I had mentioned at budget,

[34:34] we were going to start tackling fire hydrant maintenance.

[34:38] And we're going to be operating every hydrant in town.

[34:40] So as we're doing that, we'll see increased flow rates in areas as well

[34:44] as we'll be doing some digging.

[34:48] We have some seeds in the plant.

[34:49] Well, we can rebuild top ends, bottom ends, but there's some of the old

[34:51] stuff that we can't even get necessarily parts for anymore.

[34:56] So when we come across those, if they're non-operable, we'll be changing them

[34:59] out.

[35:00] Okay.

[35:03] Any other questions?

[35:06] Okay, thank you.

[35:08] Next officer.

[35:10] Anybody have any questions from I left you?

[35:14] Yep, I have one.

[35:16] How tall do we let the grass go before we go in there and cut it?

[35:20] What's this? How tall do we you let the grass

[35:22] 20 centimeters, so what's that? 9 inches or so?

[35:25] Okay. Yeah.

[35:27] There's actually there's a few that are past that.

[35:30] There's lots that are, but with that weather for...

[35:32] Yeah, with the weather the last two weeks.

[35:34] And the grass has really grown in the last.

[35:36] Yeah, hasn't it? Really grown with that proper rain.

[35:41] I was wondering,

[35:42] but there's a few that are about four times that tall.

[35:47] Three to four. Oh at least.

[35:49] I'm talking between

[35:50] I visited I visited 23 of them. Yeah.

[35:54] So yeah, I know what you're doing.

[35:59] So then, actually if you want, can you the town go in and cut them?

[36:04] And you put them on their taxes?

[36:05] After they get an official letter.

[36:08] Okay, after they get a letter.

[36:09] Yeah. They have to an order for remedy.

[36:11] And then do a noise violation.

[36:13] You have to put in the paper for two weeks here.

[36:16] Okay. Okay.

[36:18] Good to know.

[36:20] Actually, it'd be nice if some high school student

[36:25] would go to those houses and say,

[36:27] looking, I'll charge you so much to cut your lawn.

[36:31] Or there's people doing it.

[36:33] Oh yeah. But they're busy.

[36:35] Yeah. You know, I think I've seen that on television somewhere.

[36:38] Yes, just exactly what you're talking about.

[36:40] Exactly. I have a grandson that did it.

[36:41] Oh, okay. Yes.

[36:43] But using my more.

[36:44] [laughter] Yeah. What?

[36:45] I eliminate.

[36:46] [laughter] Yeah.

[36:48] [laughter]

[36:50] I said to him, he you got to split the money with me. He says,

[36:54] I said no, you keep all the money.

[36:56] The more is a gift.

[36:57] I think we have about five guys that.

[36:59] Yeah, there's quite a few trust for cutting.

[37:02] Which is a good thing.

[37:06] Any other questions for Dennis?

[37:12] Any other comments you want to highlight?

[37:15] Low light. Low light.

[37:16] [laughter]

[37:18] Yeah, I know not much.

[37:19] Okay.

[37:20] Just we're getting our golfers over on Walter Hasselwine again.

[37:23] Have we we had them over there?

[37:25] They're there. Yeah.

[37:26] Oh, okay. I'll have to slip by again.

[37:28] Most evenings sometime around between 7:30 and 8:00.

[37:32] Okay. So the smallest kids are gone.

[37:34] Yeah. But and so far, nothing in our yard.

[37:37] But we did find one under the swings.

[37:40] Yeah, but they don't have to be there, so.

[37:42] I would hope not.

[37:44] They just don't. That's all.

[37:45] Yeah. Yeah, I'll go see you.

[37:53] Okay. Next, next.

[37:56] Moving on, next is the fire department.

[37:57] Do you have any no report on it?

[37:59] No report, sir.

[38:03] Moving on to Fare and Counselor Forum.

[38:06] Do you want to have any comments you want to make,

[38:07] anything you want to do, anything else you want to talk about?

[38:10] We had a good family meeting at Orange Memories, didn't we, Mayor?

[38:13] It sure was. We didn't have very good.

[38:15] Yes. Well attended as well.

[38:17] Yes, agreed.

[38:18] And lots of good questions and conversation and cookies.

[38:23] Yeah, it was a very good meeting.

[38:28] Anyone else have any comments?

[38:32] Just planted flowers at the cemetery with the Mayor Hay

[38:34] and a couple other people and it was good.

[38:37] Good to get that done.

[38:38] Organized by Mr. and Mrs. Lees.

[38:40] Good. Yeah.

[38:41] My wife and I planted all the flowers in there Sunday,

[38:44] whole mess of them and they degraed them.

[38:46] Monday night.

[38:47] Sunday night.

[38:48] Maybe ours are gone too.

[38:50] Yeah.

[38:51] Who knows.

[38:52] They're at the right height too, the right in these buckets.

[38:54] Sunday, I got to the tour and it was okay.

[38:57] It was still there. Okay, good.

[39:02] [laughter]

[39:03] Moving on. Unfinished business.

[39:05] First off, we have the riding arena proposal.

[39:11] This is we had a Trent Award came in to talk to us, delegation

[39:16] and talked about the riding arena.

[39:21] We wanted to do a little bit of uh information finding with this

[39:26] and what we're going to do moving forward.

[39:28] Claude, do you have a chance to talk with some of the

[39:30] Yeah, so I went and riding, I went and picked Trent up

[39:34] and we went out for a drive,

[39:36] just so we could actually have some discussions

[39:38] rather than going back and forth all the time.

[39:41] And kind of I haven't been out there in years with during an event,

[39:46] so I asked him kind of to lay it out how they're doing things,

[39:49] what they're looking for, kind of

[39:51] figure out what can be done to make everybody happy.

[39:53] So we talked about the tree removal closer to Diamond 3.

[39:57] He said that wouldn't help them any because that's where they their warm-up area is.

[40:01] So they actually don't mind the little barrier there to keep trailers out of there,

[40:05] because that's where all the kids will go to warm up their horses.

[40:08] for the event, which would be just straight north of Diamond 3.

[40:12] Then they have committee parking right after that,

[40:16] and spectator parking right up by the riding arena.

[40:20] And then normally right now as a non-committee member,

[40:23] you're parking where we would build the tough truck track for the Harvest Fest.

[40:27] And they are asking one,

[40:30] this our initial one was to remove the whole soccer field,

[40:33] but after having some discussions

[40:34] and the letter from Harvest Fest about keeping the fences a barrier.

[40:39] They he said they could make it work fairly easy

[40:41] if we just open up a big opening on either end

[40:44] to allow them in one side and out the other.

[40:48] And they'd be able to make that work

[40:50] and then it keeps the barrier for the Harvest Fest

[40:52] Committee as well for our insurance with the tough trucks.

[40:55] Sounds like it's all good.

[41:01] And then with that I wouldn't unless it's council's want or wish,

[41:05] I wouldn't even put gates on it at this point.

[41:08] We would just terminate the fence at existing

[41:10] fence posts and leave them as openings.

[41:12] And then there's no cost to it whatsoever.

[41:18] And then if soccer picks up, we can always close in a

[41:21] 40 or 50 foot gap and turn the sprinklers back on.

[41:27] get back in shape of it being instead of just totally kicking it

[41:30] over, I think that's a good compromise.

[41:34] This will meet their needs.

[41:36] Trent was sure that they could make that work.

[41:38] Did you walk through it with the tough trucks people too?

[41:41] I am one of the organizers of it.

[41:44] [laughter]

[41:46] [laughter]

[41:48] I look at the mirror and say we're good.

[41:49] We just need the barrier for spectators

[41:51] when we first started the tough trucks pushing on 16, 17 years ago,

[41:58] we were in that area, but we ran snow fence

[42:00] that was before the soccer pitch.

[42:02] Then we were at the museum and we ran snow fence there as well,

[42:06] and then once we moved back here with the soccer pitch,

[42:09] it met all of our insurance requirements

[42:11] and keeps spectators away, so it'll work very well for us.

[42:14] And we're I think we're going on year 17 of this event.

[42:19] Grandkids love it.

[42:22] Any comments or questions?

[42:27] That's good we're coming and having it well.

[42:30] So I guess we need a resolution allow you to do that

[42:33] necessary changes to that soccer field to open it up

[42:36] to allow for usage.

[42:39] Make Ian a motion or something.

[42:41] Councillor Carlson.

[42:46] Good for you working on it.

[42:51] [paper rustling]

[42:54] Next, uh, decision document council procedure bylaw amendments.

[43:02] So these are the proposed changes to our uh procedure bylaws.

[43:08] There's three of them here to talk about the regular meetings.

[43:11] This is putting in writing you're doing the first Monday

[43:14] of the month and the third Monday of the month.

[43:16] So we're going to put that into our document.

[43:21] The next one was preparation and distribution timelines.

[43:27] So you can see the comments that Daman has come up with

[43:31] and the reasons behind uh moving it to a Thursday.

[43:36] The deadline would be at noon.

[43:40] Or sorry, 10:00 and then noon is the time that we had.

[43:42] Yeah, I think um because I know that you expressed

[43:44] wanting to get it earlier.

[43:47] Perhaps two or Wednesday.

[43:49] But um we risk, you know, having to constantly change the agendas

[43:53] and or you're relying on a different agenda

[43:55] because I've sent out multiple by that point.

[43:58] I would say you're not sending out multiple, you send out one,

[44:02] and then if there's changes, there'd be a time maybe on Monday

[44:04] where you send out the update.

[44:08] There'd be it would be stupid

[44:10] to send one every time there was a change.

[44:11] Yeah, either I mean I don't know when changes are coming, so

[44:14] I mean presumably my hope is that when I send it on Thursday,

[44:16] it's the last one I'm sending out.

[44:18] But we've often had a change or something.

[44:21] That's that's not unusual.

[44:23] But yeah, just one.

[44:24] So the compromise there was to do a cutoff at 10:00 AM,

[44:27] allow me two hours to get the final agenda ready

[44:29] and then get it to council by noon on Thursday.

[44:32] So that's something else after to change for the public to know that

[44:34] it'll be now on Thursday instead of Friday at 3:00, right?

[44:39] Well, what do we do when Darcy used to do that?

[44:41] You just send it out on Thursday.

[44:44] Because you weren't on Fridays, so you just send it out on Thursday.

[44:47] And if anything new came in on Friday,

[44:49] then it was just added to them.

[44:51] Yeah, sometimes stuff shows up that's not the worst that could happen.

[44:57] So Dema's proposal is to for Thursday at 10:00.

[45:03] Yeah, we can try that.

[45:05] Yeah, that would work. I think it works for administration, so

[45:09] Good job on this. putting into our procedure

[45:11] bylaw passing while the safe state

[45:13] that not just doing it, but actually stating it,

[45:16] but this is a procedure so.

[45:19] Any comments on that?

[45:20] Just a good job. Yeah.

[45:23] Thank you.

[45:25] we make those changes.

[45:26] And what about the next one?

[45:27] There's one more way to discuss that was by the order of proceedings.

[45:30] Okay.

[45:31] How about we motion just one at a time?

[45:34] Or you just need to change the whole whole.

[45:37] We actually don't need a motion because it's going to be a bylaw amendment.

[45:41] So, I guess if there's concerns, if counsel has concerns

[45:43] if we're not agreed, then, you know, we're probably

[45:45] just get a motion, I guess, to make sure we're all aligned.

[45:48] But it'll be a bylaw amendment that brings to the next council meeting.

[45:51] Can I have two?

[45:52] Yes, yeah.

[45:57] And then the uh the last one there I was talking about was to modify the proceedings.

[46:02] And that's that we have the in camera at the for the back end on on the agenda.

[46:08] That's just to add it into the regular thing, because we do it anyways, right?

[46:11] Yeah. We have to do it, but this just puts it into this is a proceeding.

[46:15] Any comments on that? Isn't it just moves it

[46:17] from where it was to somewhere a little bit earlier?

[46:21] It wasn't even in there.

[46:22] Like when you look at the list of all them, it wasn't even listed in there.

[46:25] You just added as needed.

[46:27] So you'd have to do that start of the meeting to add an in camera session, but if you just put it in there as a

[46:31] Okay, yeah, 15 15.1 is where.

[46:34] It was the public forum that I guess threw me off because I didn't remember talking about that at all.

[46:40] We're jumping around talking about different things. Okay.

[46:43] It was just in our agenda, it's always added under delegations and public forum.

[46:48] Where you know, our procedures actually has it listed as

[46:51] we're just gonna rectify that to make it look like we're having it.

[46:54] So.

[46:56] Exactly what we're doing.

[47:00] Okay. We'll just go to the next.

[47:02] Yeah, there was a line, yeah, just do the bylaw change, yeah.

[47:05] I didn't see any needs going on.

[47:07] Can I suggest that we how did I put it here?

[47:12] Uh.

[47:19] Okay, I can't see my notes, of course.

[47:21] Sorry.

[47:23] I wondered about the in camera, I put it right into the bylaw.

[47:29] That's what I did.

[47:30] Cuz it's not listed in the definitions and in camera to me is the opposite of what it is.

[47:37] Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[47:38] Cuz without a camera.

[47:39] I think it needs to be in the definitions, what it is. Okay.

[47:44] Um.

[47:46] [rustling papers]

[47:48] Yeah, it's like a kind of like a reverse language. I don't know why they just a legal name for it that they call it in camera.

[47:54] When it's actually you're not on camera.

[47:57] You're in the camera.

[47:59] [laughter]

[48:02] Okay.

[48:02] [rustling papers]

[48:04] Sorry, I

[48:06] I know I wrote it down.

[48:07] You correct though. You're my friend.

[48:09] It's a big document.

[48:11] And it was a busy weekend and it was 93 pages.

[48:14] Yes.

[48:16] Okay.

[48:17] The other one that I noted too was um the acting mayor when it shows up in here.

[48:25] Seems to be something that's set up when it's needed.

[48:29] We set it up right after the election. Yeah.

[48:32] But I was wondering if we really needed to right then.

[48:35] Um, that's not how the bylaw reads to me.

[48:41] [rustling papers]

[48:45] That's page 33 we're looking at.

[48:48] Thank you.

[48:52] [laughter]

[48:55] to go through pages and then it's on my computer, isn't it?

[48:57] Make sure I'm not seeing him.

[48:58] Just a little thing about the in camera. It's it's Latin for in chambers.

[49:02] Bylaw Roman numeral 4 33 is the acting mayor one.

[49:09] [rustling papers]

[49:12] [rustling papers]

[49:18] Guess something else to kind of just look at and decide if we're doing it this way or that way.

[49:22] So this counsel, what was your issue with that? Just un clear on that.

[49:25] That I don't think that's what we're doing.

[49:27] Well, that's only though if the mayor and the deputy mayor are

[49:30] incapacitated, then council that sits here has to appoint an acting mayor.

[49:34] We did it right after the election.

[49:36] We have the acting mayor.

[49:38] Oh, I got you. Got it? Okay.

[49:40] Did you appoint a deputy mayor?

[49:41] Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I got you. Got it. Okay. Yeah.

[49:45] [laughter]

[49:48] [rustling papers]

[49:51] And that's right or wrong, I guess, but that's the way it's been since I've been sitting in these meetings.

[49:57] Is all of those positions are handed out and you council used to pick their committees at the time as well.

[50:03] But up till last year we got rid of the committee meetings.

[50:06] Yeah.

[50:09] Here, so basically what you're describing is like that complete section would have to

[50:13] be rewritten or council just needs to stop appointing an acting mayor.

[50:16] Yeah, whichever way, it doesn't matter.

[50:19] I mean, I mean my recommendation just reading it would be do what the procedure says

[50:22] because it actually says if you have no one then the majority of council needs to identify an acting mayor at that meeting.

[50:28] That's what I read too. Yeah. Yeah.

[50:32] Because it could be too, the person they selected for acting mayor might not be here.

[50:36] That is possible. [laughter] All three of us go on the same d-that plane.

[50:39] No, council sits down.

[50:41] travel together. [laughter]

[50:43] Lots of companies have that.

[50:44] can't travel together.

[50:45] So, do you think we should rectify that and uh

[50:49] just eliminate the acting mayor?

[50:50] Or, yeah. We probably don't need that position chosen.

[50:56] So I guess maybe you can make a resolution then to unappoint the acting mayor, whoever that was.

[51:00] [laughter] Wait. [laughter]

[51:03] Oh, look, I have half the work now.

[51:05] Oh wait, no, I don't.

[51:06] Well, I'll unappoint yourself then and let's get moving here.

[51:10] [laughter] Yeah.

[51:12] I I just thought maybe we needed to either do what it says or change it.

[51:16] And to do what it says is fine.

[51:19] Good point. So I'd make a make a resolution to unappoint the acting mayor.

[51:24] Yep. I'll make that.

[51:26] Council, all those in favor.

[51:27] Don't be so quick.

[51:28] [laughter] Sorry.

[51:32] That can be decided at the time.

[51:35] Good pickup. Councillors.

[51:39] Any other from dwelling on this before we make up any

[51:44] Well, it's just so long.

[51:46] And so much of it is just rubbish.

[51:48] [laughter]

[51:50] Like major repetitive.

[51:52] And we were going to reach out to this school in the new year about our youth here, right?

[51:57] Yeah, so I think if if you're in support, uh, maybe in the beginning of the school year, I'll send them a letter or contact the principal and see if we can get some information.

[52:03] We've had uh previous youth counselors twice before.

[52:06] So it's something that's always been kind of off.

[52:10] I've got it. They'll take care of it.

[52:11] Sounds great.

[52:13] Okay, so we're all finished with that one.

[52:16] Good catch, Jenna. [mhm]

[52:18] to uh sketching health and quality, youth engagement meeting June 15th.

[52:22] [mhm]

[52:23] Plus, that's something that myself and Damian will be uh attending.

[52:27] in the morning.

[52:30] So is there anything that counselor would like for me to make point of or share?

[52:37] with S H A and or community members that are going to be there,

[52:41] or R M's are going to be there and different uh foundations and such?

[52:46] More doctors. [laughter] [mhm]

[52:48] Right. Doctors or practicing

[52:50] [laughter] something.

[52:52] More doctors, more doctors. Yeah.

[52:54] whatever it takes, whatever it takes to get more people.

[52:58] [mhm]

[53:00] I also thought too or there hasn't been a

[53:03] there hasn't been I don't think a committee structure about doctor recruitment and retention.

[53:08] Usually have a group of people helping newly arrived doctors in the community with

[53:16] before myself and another counselor had helped set up beds for Dr. Murang say is one of the things we've done but

[53:22] there's nothing really been formally in write up.

[53:25] If we had a contact me with S H A, look you pitch this by the way.

[53:29] I contact each S H A as their contact point with the doctor that they need support in any way.

[53:36] If we had a group of people, community members, would support things that they needed

[53:41] to help them get integrated into their community, I think that would be a great thing for

[53:44] [mhm] some sort of the is on the committee or

[53:47] Yeah, exactly. like a welcome wagon kind of idea, right?

[53:50] Because you never know what people need

[53:52] and direction of what to do, where to go.

[53:55] And I just had the uh conversation with Dr. Flad a few months ago

[53:58] And some of the things that we talked about really connected with me that there's some things that she wanted to do.

[54:04] And it wasn't really being involved like loves to paint

[54:08] and we're able to find a spot for her in that uh waste of S on sixth.

[54:13] Was a she needed a place to live because of the place that she was living in was sold.

[54:17] So they'll get that and now she's more part of the community and with that, in the apartment block.

[54:21] So I think that we really did.

[54:22] this will help in doctor retention too if we had something like that set up.

[54:26] Yeah, you know, they they believe the community's with them the whole nine yards, that'd be great.

[54:32] So that was something I'd like to pitch to of this.

[54:35] [mhm] good idea. [mhm]

[54:37] I wonder if there's some members from the counselors from our RMs or something. Look to be a part of it.

[54:42] Or that would be nice, right?

[54:45] as well as of course, the doctor recruit as well.

[54:48] see where things are with the nurse practitioner and companies.

[54:52] Good idea. [mhm]

[54:54] Anything else anyone? [mhm]

[54:56] Also thinking them for having the medical clinic there, taking that on and running it.

[55:02] [mhm] That was a good step for us to have the doctors at the hospital, the whole nine

[55:08] So at one time was there incentives to bring a doctors in?

[55:14] Well, there still is.

[55:15] Yeah, well they're.

[55:17] SHA's yeah. Yeah, but yeah.

[55:18] individual communities did at one point.

[55:20] Communities communities do it at one point?

[55:23] They did. It became quite a competition.

[55:25] It came yes.

[55:27] That's no longer can take place.

[55:30] Well, you can if you want to spend money, but

[55:32] the SHA is doing that. So why would you want to give money when they're already paying?

[55:36] If you're short doctors, you might want to do it.

[55:38] If you have done the number is like high, like hundreds of thousands.

[55:41] for a five-year commitment is what SHA provides.

[55:47] If you need a doctor, you never know down the road.

[55:50] But the ones that haven't materialized for the ones that have not happened years ago.

[55:58] So to say that it works.

[55:59] It doesn't.

[56:02] No, I don't think money is ever the answer.

[56:05] Retention, like good retention.

[56:08] I think belong to the

[56:10] is stronger. Yeah.

[56:11] Yeah. Probably could be other or

[56:13] that facility is like what the renovations they've done there. It doesn't even look like it's part of a hospital.

[56:20] It looks, I was just there last week and it's, it was, it surprised me.

[56:23] Like they spent some real money to actually equip that well.

[56:27] So I think if you're a doctor coming in,

[56:30] hey, you're not working at a something that feels like you're working at a some

[56:33] backyard shack, you know, you've got a a modern new facility.

[56:37] So that should hopefully help.

[56:39] on was uh years ago they talked about

[56:42] trying not to be competitive like that to have everyone trying to outbid

[56:46] each other, neighbor to get doctors to home where it should just

[56:51] So that's why SHA took over that uh recruitment and

[56:56] Well, and for people where money mattered,

[56:58] it really became a game.

[56:59] Like they come and get their bonus here.

[57:02] And they'd stay the minimum so they could get their bonus over there.

[57:07] They were all kinds of ways to play the game, like a professional athlete.

[57:10] [laughter] A little bit.

[57:12] Yeah. That's what it is.

[57:15] And people that came and stayed, never got another incentive.

[57:23] Okay. Okay. Next on to new business.

[57:26] We have the Grad request for road closure.

[57:30] No concerns for public works or recreation on this.

[57:34] And they did that every other year, right?

[57:36] Yeah, they all got there.

[57:39] It's awesome.

[57:40] I think, yeah. We're cold in here. Yeah.

[57:43] Two of my kids had it and the one that didn't is jealous.

[57:46] Like they, they like the parade and they're not attention seeking people.

[57:52] It's nice for the public to see the grabs too when you get an opportunity to go and see the grand ceremonies

[57:57] because they were allowed to certain amount of people, so.

[57:59] And it's had rainy weather and it's had rainy weather and it's had nice weather and they're still happy to be out there.

[58:04] I don't see a problem with that. I say, let's do it.

[58:07] I have a motion to approve.

[58:08] Councilor Hunter, all those in favor.

[58:10] That is carried.

[58:13] Next, we have decision document Six Street Pleasant Valley

[58:16] request for pedestrian crosswalk. Crosswalk.

[58:23] So, we received

[58:27] Town Council give a letter for members,

[58:30] there's 18 people found this document.

[58:33] Signatures yet.

[58:34] They're concerned about children living on Pleasant Valley Road, Ridge Path Road, and Mountain Crescent and several neighboring areas.

[58:41] and they want to formally request consideration for installation of a

[58:45] blinking pedestrian crosswalk at intersection of Sixth Street and

[58:47] Mountain Crescent, Pleasant Valley Road.

[58:51] Between their two adjacent cul-de-sacs alone, there are approximately

[58:54] 50 children who cross Sixth Avenue multiple times each day to

[58:56] work and from school as well as for general neighborhood activities.

[59:01] This section of Sixth Avenue is one of Sixth Avenue is one of the busiest streets in Roaststown and we have ongoing ongoing concerns

[59:07] regarding vehicle speeds and overall driver attentiveness.

[59:11] including distracted driving. It is not uncommon to observe vehicles traveling well above posted speed limit.

[59:17] particularly during peak traffic hours and after school.

[59:20] These concerns have been heightened by recent accident at an intersection that resulted in significant property damage.

[59:28] So, during winter months, snow removal practices often result in

[59:31] sidewalks being unusable, forcing children to walk along busy roadways.

[59:36] Due to high traffic volume on 9th Avenue East, many families

[59:39] direct their children to use the back alley behind Fortune Crescent and

[59:42] Hanger Crescent as a safe alternative.

[59:45] Even so, children are required to cross Sixth Avenue at informal locations on a continual basis.

[59:52] which further increased the safety risk for pedestrians.

[59:55] Given the number of children crossing at this location and traffic patterns

[59:58] in the area, we believe a clearly marked and illuminated pedestrian crosswalk

[1:00:02] would significantly improve safety by increasing driver awareness and

[1:00:05] encouraging speed reduction.

[1:00:08] We respectfully request that council review this location and consider

[1:00:15] implementing appropriate pedestrian safety measures.

[1:00:20] We would welcome the opportunity to discuss this further or provide any

[1:00:25] additional information that you may assist in your assessment.

[1:00:26] Thank you for your time and consideration for this important community safety

[1:00:36] concern. So I think we can all agree that we have concerned parents here

[1:00:36] with a busy street and there's kids around the area often. We had uh

[1:00:42] someone's done some background on this, and the decision documents been made,

[1:00:46] talked about the different uh ideas and solutions to this. Um you've all

[1:00:55] read what uh he's presented? What's what's your uh thoughts on what's

[1:00:58] been said? I think it's a great idea, maybe some education on the operation

[1:01:01] of it. Uh years ago I was involved in putting one across here at the U Centre.

[1:01:05] Um and people just don't seem to know

[1:01:07] how to push the button and they run across.

[1:01:08] So, I mean, it's you can't tell them

[1:01:11] what to do, but maybe make sure that they are actually trying to use it.

[1:01:14] Or the parents are parents are kind of training.

[1:01:17] Which there is a perfect point.

[1:01:19] You put something in a safety feature,

[1:01:21] but you don't have to use it and some people don't.

[1:01:23] So you're just expecting that people

[1:01:26] will use it, but if they don't

[1:01:27] use it,

[1:01:28] you're still have that safety issue.

[1:01:30] So that's the negative on the cons or whatever from a

[1:01:33] besides the cost of implementing

[1:01:35] installing it, would these people not actually use it?

[1:01:38] Nor would someone who can help like

[1:01:40] are going back for their skateboards

[1:01:42] or scooters, they're not going to stop and push the button.

[1:01:43] No.

[1:01:44] So we just have to be careful like

[1:01:46] I know that's a really busy crossing the highway

[1:01:48] on the corner here by the rink and

[1:01:50] that's where we had to put it in for

[1:01:52] that reason for hockey and for the youth group.

[1:01:53] And it's just not used enough.

[1:01:55] I I once in a while I just check and make sure it's working.

[1:01:58] But uh, you know, because it's really, that's that's a busy highway.

[1:02:02] And you don't want to be uh tricking somebody to stop either,

[1:02:04] but it's just not used enough.

[1:02:06] So hopefully they will. I I I like the idea.

[1:02:09] I like the idea.

[1:02:10] I'd come up with the thought process

[1:02:12] that by adding a pedestrian sign in

[1:02:15] the middle of residential over there,

[1:02:17] they'd open the door for having these

[1:02:18] all over the town. Oh that's

[1:02:19] that that would have been my main concern is

[1:02:22] because that's another thing when you

[1:02:25] set precedence for having this, and

[1:02:27] it's a wonderful thing and also

[1:02:28] another part of town wants another part of town.

[1:02:29] But there's there are crosswalks and flashing lights here and there in town.

[1:02:32] Like over by the senior center.

[1:02:36] Um, there are some.

[1:02:37] Not in any residential neighborhood across the highway that I can think of.

[1:02:40] The only lights we have are on the highway. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:02:45] Which is good. this one is a pretty major thoroughfare.

[1:02:47] Yeah.

[1:02:48] And right now if we have 50 to 60 kids crossing regularly, that that's a

[1:02:54] major crossing.

[1:02:55] Personally, in 10 years we won't have. We'll we can take it down.

[1:02:59] Or we can like I don't mind the idea of the four-way stop there.

[1:03:03] I like the four-way stop, too.

[1:03:04] With that, but that's a three, four-way stops in what, three blocks?

[1:03:08] Slow down.

[1:03:10] Yeah, actually going to take 10 minutes to get from anywhere to anywhere in

[1:03:15] Rose town in a vehicle. Yeah.

[1:03:15] I like the stop sign idea actually myself.

[1:03:16] Probably back.

[1:03:17] I like the stop sign idea actually myself.

[1:03:19] The stop sign provides crosswalks there as well, stop signs. You're controlling

[1:03:25] two people crossing as well as traffic.

[1:03:26] Well if if it's a problem,

[1:03:28] you ask the RCMP to park their car out there and start handing out tickets

[1:03:32] or Surprisingly, it starts to be noticed, yeah.

[1:03:35] Right? Like I shockingly, you know, I don't know how many times you're

[1:03:42] driving down the highway and he says speed vines triple,

[1:03:44] and all the brake lights come on.

[1:03:45] Like nobody wants to pay, so

[1:03:46] you put a flashing crosswalk there, there's no there's no enforcement

[1:03:50] option. People use it and somebody blows through it.

[1:03:54] You got to kind of see it when it happens,

[1:03:56] where you put the stop sign.

[1:03:57] But you put a you also can put a pedestrian zone there or something where it has to slow down and then

[1:04:06] there is then the cops can do something. I don't know. I'm not sure I want

[1:04:10] another stop sign in there. Um, that's one of two north-south routes through town.

[1:04:16] only two that go all the way.

[1:04:18] I think if I had one stop right sign there myself.

[1:04:22] I should be proactive than reactive.

[1:04:24] Well, I think the the reason why they see high speed there is because there aren't stop signs.

[1:04:30] Right? There were no stop signs there, you'd have people ripping up that road at 100 kilometers an hour, I guarantee it.

[1:04:34] Oh, yeah.

[1:04:35] But that's why we've got two already right there.

[1:04:38] Need more pot holes on there.

[1:04:39] You used to only have there used to only have there used to only be the one at Marshall, one at Highway 7 and one at 6th and 9th.

[1:04:46] There was the three on the whole thing up until the last five years. Yeah.

[1:04:51] We've changed those other ones?

[1:04:53] because of concerns. One was children safety at the splash park.

[1:04:56] So we actually put a four-way stop there.

[1:04:58] I think that's improved.

[1:04:59] I think we see the traffic flow there.

[1:05:01] Also we've done four-way stop at Regal Motors and uh First Avenue there.

[1:05:05] There's accidents there all the time. I think that's improved as well as the medical clinic.

[1:05:11] next stop over. It's only one block over.

[1:05:13] And I was a little skeptical about putting another stop,

[1:05:17] four-way stop.

[1:05:18] But it's actually been beneficial

[1:05:19] because the Christian communities there.

[1:05:20] And it's busy all day long.

[1:05:22] So there's lots of traffic, but it works.

[1:05:24] It's one thing I like about a stop sign

[1:05:25] and I know that he did the uh, by KidCare.

[1:05:28] He knew that this was getting built,

[1:05:29] so he put the four-way stop there.

[1:05:31] used to be lots of collisions there

[1:05:32] when they just did a yield sign.

[1:05:34] So now when you come up to that four-way stop,

[1:05:36] it's actually quicker because you can't stop

[1:05:37] and you hope see no one there, you go.

[1:05:39] Before you had to stop and look both directions

[1:05:41] because it could be someone coming down the way

[1:05:43] at 50 kilometers an hour.

[1:05:44] You had to wait to see because it's just the yield sign.

[1:05:47] Now four-way stop, you're assured,

[1:05:49] when you stop, you go because it's a four-way stop.

[1:05:51] It provides uh

[1:05:54] it seems like it'd be slower, but it's actually quicker.

[1:05:57] So I noticed I drive it every day

[1:05:59] and I go to that intersection on it.

[1:06:01] It's quicker than it used to be, but it was a yield sign.

[1:06:04] So we've had three or four years that we've done

[1:06:06] putting four-way stops.

[1:06:07] I know it's not everyone's favorite to put stop signs.

[1:06:10] But it is if they're higher to serve.

[1:06:13] And the kids, with the pedestrians,

[1:06:15] it's about safety. So,

[1:06:18] There's something before, we don't have to make any

[1:06:20] decisions, but if we decide a certain way we want to go

[1:06:23] we could also have this plan for, this is what we're

[1:06:25] looking at and send communications back to these

[1:06:28] individuals who sent us the letters

[1:06:30] say this is kind of what we're looking at and why.

[1:06:34] If that's before we make any decisions

[1:06:36] about changing something from.

[1:06:38] What does everyone's thoughts after

[1:06:41] some discussion and reading the document that

[1:06:44] Damian's kind of broke down about different

[1:06:46] the ideas, different ways.

[1:06:48] Yeah, again, I think he did a great job in doing.

[1:06:52] Personally, it seems like an odd location

[1:06:53] from one cul-de-sac to another.

[1:06:56] If it was for, in my mind, for child safety,

[1:06:58] there should be a ninth and sixth.

[1:07:00] There's sidewalks on both sides.

[1:07:01] Everyone out of Pleasant Valley, everyone out of

[1:07:03] Red Path can walk up to ninth and cross

[1:07:05] and go to school.

[1:07:07] All the kids from the north can come to ninth,

[1:07:09] cross and go to school.

[1:07:10] Going from one cul-de-sac to the other seems like

[1:07:12] an odd location for me to be putting up.

[1:07:15] But remember, they're kind of going from

[1:07:17] one, in a way, from the, it's the cul-de-sacs, but so

[1:07:20] they can get onto that lane behind Fortune and Anglia.

[1:07:24] instead of walking on ninth, especially in the winter

[1:07:26] when they can't walk on the sidewalk.

[1:07:28] But then even a rid path, at least that street carries you

[1:07:30] all the way through, going right into the center

[1:07:33] of Mountain View, doesn't take you anywhere.

[1:07:34] You're still having to go either direction in my mind,

[1:07:37] like.

[1:07:40] It takes you from one dead end to another and my own.

[1:07:42] It just seems like an odd location.

[1:07:49] So are you saying you don't want a stop sign there?

[1:07:51] I don't. I don't have a saying there.

[1:07:53] I don't. You don't, wouldn't like a stop sign there.

[1:07:56] Well, I think if you put a, if you put a

[1:07:58] It doesn't matter to me.

[1:07:58] If you put a flashing crosswalk there,

[1:08:01] they're going to want to the same thing one block up.

[1:08:03] It's another cul-de-sac full of kids.

[1:08:05] Mhm.

[1:08:06] So that's why you got to put a stop sign.

[1:08:08] Another option.

[1:08:10] What about a lower speed zone with children at play signs?

[1:08:14] Is that? Does that?

[1:08:15] That was part of what I was suggesting.

[1:08:17] The current speed everywhere in town is at

[1:08:19] 40 kilometers an hour.

[1:08:23] except in front of the schools.

[1:08:25] During elementary schools all the time,

[1:08:27] the high schools during school hours.

[1:08:30] But everywhere else except Marshall is 50,

[1:08:32] everywhere else is 40.

[1:08:34] The question is in front of Kid Care.

[1:08:38] Uh, that actually, that is dropped as well.

[1:08:40] It did. Is it dropped as well?

[1:08:41] Yeah, we dropped there as well.

[1:08:43] I believe I remember putting signs up last summer.

[1:08:47] I forgot about that one.

[1:08:48] Yeah.

[1:08:51] difficult decisions that can't be taken lightly, nor can it

[1:08:54] doesn't have to be made right away either.

[1:08:57] we could assign them to do some more work on it,

[1:09:00] if you guys think.

[1:09:02] Well, they are in their letter, they are offering to discuss

[1:09:04] more with us if we wish.

[1:09:08] Yeah, it might not be a bad idea.

[1:09:09] Like I, I don't see how the flashing lights

[1:09:11] actually fix a problem.

[1:09:14] And to Bob's point, like speed bumps,

[1:09:16] that's going to be a nightmare.

[1:09:18] No, you don't want that.

[1:09:19] It's the drawback of having a nice road is everybody wants

[1:09:21] to, you know, when we just quit paving

[1:09:23] when it was crap, like nobody sped up that road, right? But

[1:09:27] You just make some potholes.

[1:09:30] That's why it's

[1:09:31] There's something else that doesn't have to do

[1:09:33] directly with this, but just thing that I've noticed,

[1:09:35] when I was young, we always used to have that bike road

[1:09:37] or RCM to hold it or to the right to do a bike road.

[1:09:41] I don't know if they currently done it or not,

[1:09:43] but I just see a lot of kids kind of wandering

[1:09:45] around the street with bikes,

[1:09:47] not bike safety is lacking.

[1:09:49] Very much so.

[1:09:50] I wonder if that's something we could ask the RCMP

[1:09:52] if they would, something they would could start up again

[1:09:54] to help our kids.

[1:09:56] Yeah, they were actually handing out bike helmets

[1:09:58] at that time, SGI or who, somebody.

[1:10:00] Yeah.

[1:10:01] But it was sort of a one-day thing that got a bike.

[1:10:03] Yeah.

[1:10:04] So it was the kid that was a one-day thing.

[1:10:06] one, one evening a week we went and we learned all these,

[1:10:08] we actually learned the rules.

[1:10:11] Whereas

[1:10:12] this one that kind of play a bunch of games.

[1:10:14] They got a helmet. They heard the rules.

[1:10:16] And then they left and rode down the wrong side of the road again.

[1:10:19] Yeah.

[1:10:20] I took it as a young kid in Rosetown.

[1:10:21] It was inside the rink and it was they had full intersection setup everything.

[1:10:25] And you had to ride through an obstacle course as if you were

[1:10:27] riding through the streets at that time.

[1:10:30] You might do that with scooters too. Yeah.

[1:10:33] [laughter]

[1:10:36] They can go a little faster.

[1:10:38] I'm fine with this.

[1:10:40] Well, they're still discussing.

[1:10:42] but you should involve uh

[1:10:44] Send a letter to him and tell you see what they think. I think.

[1:10:49] I uh, I can you only the options that we're discussing. Yep, yep.

[1:10:54] Sure, sure. Okay. Get their input.

[1:11:01] Sorry, I got confused because now we were talking about bikes.

[1:11:04] So we moved on. Yeah, we were distracted.

[1:11:08] We're it's easy.

[1:11:10] Okay, next we have MuseSoft assignment of security coordinator.

[1:11:14] Yeah, Amanda's already doing this.

[1:11:16] just needs to be ratified by council so they can

[1:11:18] actually sign her as a security coordinator.

[1:11:21] if we want to assign. So. Okay. I'll make that motion.

[1:11:23] This this just resets passwords, that's all she's doing.

[1:11:27] Uh, she's assigning access to

[1:11:29] For example, when I got here, we couldn't get me onto MuseSoft.

[1:11:33] Um she's a security coordinator, she should be able to get me onto MuseSoft

[1:11:36] but she's council hasn't actually um assigned her as the

[1:11:40] MuseSoft security coordinator. So they wouldn't

[1:11:43] So she can create an account and that kind of thing.

[1:11:45] No.

[1:11:45] So once council ratifies it, MuseSoft will give her that

[1:11:48] authority and then she can

[1:11:49] she can allow access to MuseSoft and and take people off.

[1:11:54] Sounds good. I'll make the motion.

[1:11:55] All those in favor. That was carried.

[1:11:59] [rustling papers]

[1:12:03] [rustling papers] And uh next we have the Harvest Festival Committee

[1:12:05] minutes for March 17th and April 28th.

[1:12:08] [rustling papers]

[1:12:26] where the we're in the copy, yeah. I can't find it.

[1:12:28] I found 77 on your package.

[1:12:31] [rustling papers]

[1:12:34] There we go. There we go.

[1:12:37] So any questions or comments on the minutes for March 17th?

[1:12:42] So they've been organizing things for Harvest Festival.

[1:12:46] Looks like they're getting organized.

[1:12:47] I just want to thank them for doing that again.

[1:12:49] That's a big job and it's a big big

[1:12:50] It's a huge festival. festival. Huge festival. Agree.

[1:12:55] kudos to the volunteers. Thank you.

[1:13:00] [rustling papers]

[1:13:04] So as we uh, March 17th and then the uh April 28th. Yeah.

[1:13:10] Comments on either one?

[1:13:13] Great job. Keep working. Very good.

[1:13:16] So I guess we need a motion to accept the minutes.

[1:13:21] Counselor, all those in favor. That was carried.

[1:13:26] Next, letter requesting flashing red light at 9th Avenue and Highway 4.

[1:13:37] This is an email received

[1:13:39] from Dr. or no, Dr.

[1:13:41] Danny Persy.

[1:13:41] Danny Persy. Dr. Danny.

[1:13:44] who got a near miss at the intersection of uh 9th Avenue and Highway 4.

[1:13:50] and he's recommending a flashing light.

[1:13:53] Not a bad idea because of school buses.

[1:13:56] School buses go are coming through there all.

[1:14:00] twice a day or more.

[1:14:03] What was the cost for a flashing red light?

[1:14:05] I'm not sure. Is there power there or anything or do they have solar?

[1:14:08] They have solar options for that kind of stuff.

[1:14:11] Yeah, yep.

[1:14:13] One thing I know too was

[1:14:14] this can be addressed as a semi- park right the side 9th Avenue a semi parking lot.

[1:14:19] They've always taken up full length of trucks right near the road.

[1:14:23] And always the road as well like the sight lines are blocked

[1:14:25] right off.

[1:14:28] So that's something maybe we could have

[1:14:33] a reminder that things need to be pulled back.

[1:14:35] Like trees and parking things.

[1:14:39] Cuz it may create an accident.

[1:14:41] It's a visibility right up. Excuse me.

[1:14:45] in a dangerous spot.

[1:14:47] Well, there has been serious accidents there.

[1:14:50] Yeah, there sure has. Oh, yeah.

[1:14:55] So I think they need to do a little bit of investigation on the options for this.

[1:14:59] I can do that, yes. I just didn't have time.

[1:15:01] I received it at um Friday at 11:36 on Friday. Yeah.

[1:15:06] So should we send him a letter saying we're working on options?

[1:15:10] I've already let him know. Okay.

[1:15:12] I responded right away and let them know and he was appreciative.

[1:15:16] Does everybody find that

[1:15:18] Also they need to do some investigation.

[1:15:21] Yep.

[1:15:27] Okay.

[1:15:30] Next, we have convention reimbursement to.

[1:15:33] Uh yes, yeah, put this on the agenda.

[1:15:36] $200 for my registration to go to for the annual convention.

[1:15:42] And uh and USD for possible. Yeah.

[1:15:45] I think we should reimburse for paying for to.

[1:15:49] I think definitely. Yep.

[1:15:52] So you need a motion?

[1:15:53] Oh, we'll go with Counselor Garrett.

[1:15:56] All those in favor? Okay.

[1:16:03] Next we have exclusion of land

[1:16:04] from list of land in arrears,

[1:16:07] lands with the arrears which do not

[1:16:09] exceed one half of the preceding

[1:16:10] year tax levy.

[1:16:12] Yes sir, so Amanda is going to prepare the list of land in arrears for our

[1:16:16] next meeting, but we just want to get a step ahead here and exclude lands

[1:16:19] that don't have more than half 50% of last year's levy on it.

[1:16:23] So okay.

[1:16:25] Any questions about that at all? Nope.

[1:16:30] Things we do usually every year.

[1:16:32] Mhm. Okay. Have a motion.

[1:16:34] Counselor, all those in favor? Okay.

[1:16:40] Next we have Council authorization to receive a tax enforcement efforts to

[1:16:44] acquire title on seven properties.

[1:16:47] Yes sir, so Amanda has leans already registered, um it's been over the six

[1:16:52] months from advertising so next step now is the first warning which is a

[1:16:56] six-month warning.

[1:16:57] Okay. Or six months notice, I should say. Yeah.

[1:17:02] Need a motion?

[1:17:04] Okay.

[1:17:05] Counselor, all those in favor? Okay.

[1:17:11] We have no bylaw.

[1:17:15] Next we have in camera to discuss the from bid summary.

[1:17:20] Any motion to go in camera? Counselor Allisport.

[1:17:22] All those in favor? Okay.

[1:17:31] Bye.

[1:17:32] [laughter]

[1:17:35] Is that a bathroom or a secret?

[1:17:38] Maybe she's walking in the bathroom,

[1:17:41] [laughter] If the water comes on in here,

[1:17:43] Probably.

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