[0:39] Good morning, everyone.

[0:42] Second must.

[0:44] Meeting the goal today is kind of.

[0:47] Hear from the sea.

[0:49] OK. And then also.

[0:52] Kind of look at any.

[0:53] Concepts again.

[0:55] That arts do not seem to be working.

[0:59] One of the concepts I understand.

[1:01] Does it seem to be working?

[1:02] Is we can't make townships all.

[1:05] With the .05.

[1:08] So, and our goal is to meet.

[1:12] And Paul, so that's one concept we might build into our agreement.

[1:19] And trying to go from there.

[1:22] OK, the the key is.

[1:25] As we go forward to make up the lip itself and everybody should have our report right.

[1:33] And we can go through page by page.

[1:37] If you want and my analyst is on.

[1:39] On the Teams meeting.

[1:41] We go by page by page but.

[1:43] It's pretty easy once we address.

[1:48] The concerns of.

[1:50] The city, OK.

[1:53] That, uh.

[1:53] All of the smaller entities.

[1:56] Will be taken care of.

[1:59] That's the way it looks to us at this point in time.

[2:02] Keep in mind again.

[2:04] We're looking at.

[2:06] 2028.

[2:08] OK. And so?

[2:11] When we in act.

[2:13] You know, I keep telling everybody you might want to start and.

[2:15] February 28th.

[2:17] And but you know, July, it will have to be done in 28.

[2:21] 429 as it stands today.

[2:25] Again.

[2:25] There will be.

[2:26] Things that will change.

[2:29] Next January, February, March, when the boys and girls.

[2:33] Go downtown Indianapolis and slug it out.

[2:37] You know, so there'll be changes that will come about.

[2:41] I am told we will not have must to.

[2:44] Coming to a theater near you next year?

[2:48] So, and that's a good thing. Maybe that's a bad thing.

[2:52] But it doesn't mean that we all can't get the.

[2:55] Together next July, you know.

[2:59] If we wanted to and talk.

[3:01] You know there's going to be.

[3:04] Talk from now on because in order to keep the cities.

[3:09] Or the tail, small tails as a whole.

[3:12] Obviously it's going to become.

[3:14] Important to hear from you and things like that.

[3:17] Some people have asked me. I've done many of these now.

[3:21] Some people have asked you.

[3:22] Does this mean the County Council will approve the?

[3:26] City and the town's budget.

[3:29] No it doesn't at this point in time.

[3:32] And work with the County Council. I believe in most.

[3:36] Kim, they wouldn't want to do that.

[3:38] Right.

[3:39] And so it don't expand the definitions beyond where it is right now.

[3:47] The goal?

[3:48] Is Rush County as a whole?

[3:51] To try and.

[3:52] Make it whole as far as recovery of current LIT.

[3:58] Above and beyond that.

[3:59] It's going to get.

[4:00] Really difficult.

[4:02] To get those LSA losses and things like that.

[4:06] Especially.

[4:07] Jason, I think you've seen it maybe probably run.

[4:09] To share with us, but.

[4:11] You've seen it. It would be very, very dramatic.

[4:14] In order to make up all your.

[4:16] I think admit like.

[4:17] $3,000,000 of.

[4:18] Allocate losses in 2029.

[4:21] I mean, that's.

[4:22] A huge amount.

[4:24] So that's what we're here to do first of.

[4:28] Jason, if you want to maybe.

[4:31] You want to set the table from the.

[4:33] City side that might be helpful and then?

[4:36] If there's any questions on.

[4:39] The numbers these are just.

[4:40] You know estimates at this point in time.

[4:43] We're having to go through those.

[4:45] Yeah.

[4:48] Out if you like, but no, you need to come up here Jason and.

[4:53] Sorry, what happened?

[4:58] No, we appreciate the effort and the number of crunching. I know that.

[5:02] It takes a lot of time and energy.

[5:04] These numbers together.

[5:06] Looking at this, we've received it yesterday it looks like.

[5:11] Just summarizing, but I believe these somethings were.

[5:13] Look like I'm taking what we're collecting in 2026.

[5:17] Local income tax.

[5:18] Plus the supplemental deduction.

[5:20] What's the additional losses that we're anticipating from?

[5:23] LSA umm.

[5:24] Through the impacts of sea.

[5:27] And trying to.

[5:28] Everyone whole.

[5:29] So we appreciate you looking at that and then it looked like that you also.

[5:33] I looked at the fire and EMS rate.

[5:36] As kind of an additional.

[5:37] Revenue through for the various, you know, fire units and.

[5:42] All right.

[5:44] So no, within that it looked like, you know, based upon the rates.

[5:49] That looked like you were trying to make a hole based upon the current.

[5:54] You know, structure.

[5:55] Of the city and the county.

[5:57] And so we appreciate that.

[6:01] One thing.

[6:04] No, I think that's.

[6:06] To comment on it was a chance, I've got to look at it so far.

[6:10] I guess one thing I did notice and I emailed him this morning on the fire EMS.

[6:15] It looked like the allocation was just kind of based upon trying to fund the budgets of the current.

[6:20] And not based upon this formula, is that something that we're going to?

[6:23] Maybe suggestion report and.

[6:25] And give the county the flexibility that we don't part.

[6:28] It's a cold while with some foreigners. Let's give the Council more flexibility and out.

[6:32] Those various uh, uh.

[6:36] Revenues are allocated here.

[6:38] In the past.

[6:39] So that's.

[6:41] And see what they do. Yeah. And I think that's the system for the houses.

[6:48] We're going to ask for that.

[6:51] .5 to be .6. Maybe the town hold.

[6:55] Because if you add up all the townships that are going to be negligence about $75,000.

[7:02] We need to make them whole.

[7:04] If that's, you know, agreeable with the.

[7:06] Obama Committee.

[7:08] Yeah, Jason, you know, on that, I mean, it's really, really tough. I think they essentially did.

[7:15] You know.

[7:19] But I think they intentionally.

[7:21] Shabbat glow to.

[7:25] Entice.

[7:28] Again, it is our understanding and I hope it's your understanding that.

[7:32] It will be grading them later this year.

[7:36] I run into one county, about 5 of the town.

[7:40] We never turned ours in.

[7:42] Well, OK, well.

[7:46] That's one of those if they want to get rid of.

[7:50] The ones that.

[7:51] We're not responding to anybody.

[7:54] They want to get rid of.

[7:56] And so.

[7:57] You know the the consolidation and what?

[8:01] Townships may look like in 2028.

[8:05] Gita really is not known.

[8:08] And the grading factor.

[8:10] When it comes out later.

[8:11] Yes, I know.

[8:13] You know, I had several of them score fairly high. I pulled out.

[8:17] They were fires either. They weren't zeros.

[8:20] But umm.

[8:21] You know, that's the most unknown because maybe.

[8:24] I think intentionally was that.

[8:28] Flow to entice.

[8:32] And I think.

[8:34] One thing that.

[8:35] Perspective is I think this is a great starting point and you know, you mentioned that.

[8:40] You don't think there's gonna be a must?

[8:42] To be required. But I agree with you I think.

[8:46] Meetings join meetings are going to be very beneficial.

[8:50] In the future for the county, the cities and townships going forward.

[8:54] Especially.

[8:55] Even if it's not going to be an annual decision, if they change that annual decision, something sort of beneficial for us.

[9:01] Continue to have these.

[9:02] Collaborative meetings.

[9:04] And that's something I think, you know, mayor in the city would like to continue even, you know, after this meeting.

[9:10] Talk about, not just.

[9:11] You know this must maybe walk the landscape is going to look like you mentioned countries are going to be different that.

[9:17] You know, some other things that the city of the county can collaborate on and.

[9:21] May change landscape that may change these numbers.

[9:23] You know IN200029200028200029 when we actually have an emphasis.

[9:29] So on this meeting, but something we kind of encouraged in the near future.

[9:36] You'd like to ask.

[9:42] Yeah.

[9:44] You're on the screen and you're on the.

[9:48] Recording.

[9:50] They made me say we're recording when we hide back to the Gray Gray.

[9:55] No, I think what Jason's saying is, is pretty much I think the.

[10:02] I think the.

[10:03] Continuing to have meetings is probably.

[10:06] The most important part?

[10:07] Because.

[10:09] I think the assumption is and it's it's easy to do.

[10:12] We all do it.

[10:13] To some degree.

[10:14] We look at the budget and we say there's, there's the budget and that's a number.

[10:19] But it doesn't reflect anything of where we want to go and what we're wanting to.

[10:22] Do and and how things happen in the future and so.

[10:26] I think for us.

[10:28] We do appreciate.

[10:29] Making it slow when we do appreciate.

[10:32] The adjustments that were made, but we also know that.

[10:37] We're trying to, we're not, we're not really, believe it or not, we're not budgeting and we're not. Our vision isn't set based on

[10:40] SB1.

[10:44] Has not said on the must it on.

[10:46] Bigger different things must just plays into it and I think for.

[10:50] Us as a community to make good decisions.

[10:53] If this is going to be.

[10:54] The route that they send us to make these decisions.

[10:57] We have to meet and, you know, and.

[11:00] In a different at a different date.

[11:03] To have conversations, to say here's really what we're trying to.

[11:08] To get ourselves.

[11:09] And that's why we might push hard over here and we may let it go.

[11:13] Over there.

[11:14] Because it does impact.

[11:16] It truly does impact some of the book of business we do. There are certain areas.

[11:20] I tell you, there's a bunch of business we do as a city of Rushville that we.

[11:24] Enjoy and there are responsibilities we did and there are others that we do that we go.

[11:28] I don't know if I want to do that anymore.

[11:31] And so if it becomes to to where it's.

[11:36] Doesn't work.

[11:37] For what the county is looking at and what we're looking at, we want to make those adjustments and.

[11:41] And it's not that we want to make those adjustments in three years. We want to make those adjustments.

[11:45] As soon as we possibly can.

[11:47] I would agree with.

[11:48] With Jason is the ability to have.

[11:51] Continued meeting so you guys get to see.

[11:54] Where we're really looking at and what we're really seeing.

[11:58] So thank you.

[11:59] I would suggest is there any Township people here?

[12:10] Come on up if you've got.

[12:11] Or questions, concerns or statements because.

[12:15] Again, uh.

[12:16] First of all, turn the only bike.

[12:18] You know, he doesn't live very hard, so you know.

[12:22] But the whole.

[12:26] The point of this is to talk it out.

[12:29] And so if you have absolutely any concerns.

[12:33] Just please state him on the record too.

[12:35] Because this will be part of the record that will also be submitted or if you have anything written.

[12:41] Or anything like that or question.

[12:43] Leaves ask.

[12:45] So yes, ma'am.

[12:46] You have to.

[12:50] It's not really a real question, but we can talk about Russian public.

[12:55] Can I get a copy of the report Jason was talking about?

[12:58] Well, this is powerful.

[13:01] Yeah.

[13:05] This is the August 26th. This is the new version.

[13:11] OK here.

[13:16] Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

[13:17] OK, listen.

[13:19] I put Tammy Chief in charge.

[13:22] But I brought copies.

[13:25] Anybody else?

[13:27] OK, perfect.

[13:30] Jane, I'm glad we brought that cover.

[13:38] The you guys are happy to.

[13:42] The numbers.

[13:50] And we would like to have a little more time to dissect that.

[13:55] So we understand it better.

[13:57] Sure, in our next.

[14:01] That would be great.

[14:02] Our next step would be.

[14:04] To put together a pair.

[14:05] And I've been putting together paragraphs to insert into the document.

[14:10] Jason, I'm.

[14:13] I again, I don't know what your counseling.

[14:16] As far as the city is concerned.

[14:19] That I wouldn't want to put a rate.

[14:22] In from the city of Rushville at this point in time.

[14:25] In the document.

[14:26] Are you suggesting we should or not?

[14:31] A great position of the draft. 1st I'm going to find report.

[14:35] In the report.

[14:37] That goes to F.

[14:39] Yeah, OK, the next bull.

[14:42] Is to create the.

[14:45] The report can have rates in it.

[14:48] Or it can have.

[14:49] Condoms written up in a paragraph.

[14:52] We believe.

[14:53] We want to submit concepts in.

[14:56] Paragraph.

[14:57] 72 I believe charging you indicated.

[15:01] The county would not want.

[15:03] Put anything below the maximum 1.2.

[15:06] Correct, and and.

[15:09] We either put.

[15:10] The way I look at it is, and again, I'm not sure what you're counseling.

[15:14] But zero or 1.2.

[15:17] OK, because to put anything last.

[15:20] May be detrimental to your health.

[15:24] Yeah, it's been interesting to see.

[15:29] OK, what? I've been writing a few of them, so yeah. So the next step would be.

[15:37] To get the paragraph formulated, I'll take first blood.

[15:42] And, you know, then everybody can.

[15:45] You know, nail it down however they want, have your attorney look at it or whatever.

[15:50] And uh.

[15:51] You know, we could always submit a draft.

[15:54] Set a number, but again I would not have the county.

[15:59] Less than 1.2.

[16:02] OK, just for six.

[16:05] And if we submit?

[16:06] You all it would be 1.06.

[16:10] I believe is the number that we use.

[16:13] So again, I'm afraid you.

[16:16] Get kept.

[16:16] At that rate.

[16:18] By something or someone in the future.

[16:22] So I'm not sure what.

[16:26] So that would be my.

[16:28] Advice. And that's.

[16:29] How are you going to kind of structure the paragraph?

[16:32] To protect everyone.

[16:35] That we can.

[16:36] As directed by.

[16:38] The mushroom.

[16:41] Yes.

[16:44] It's a small town.

[16:45] If I'm looking at these reports, drive you are taking care of your two fault pants.

[16:50] Oh, absolutely. Let's go get you. Let's look at you now.

[16:53] So which your?

[17:00] I'm a little I'm a little tiny.

[17:02] So let's look at page 6.

[17:05] Glenwood.

[17:06] And let's see, we've got Glenwood Civil.

[17:10] City, Yeah.

[17:11] Actually because the 29 distribution.

[17:17] Think we have a demo over by 409.

[17:20] Is that correct?

[17:33] 6.

[17:35] OK, tell me what the difference is.

[17:37] Web page.

[17:40] I'm on the page.

[17:42] The change page where it got green and orange.

[17:46] Yeah, we don't have green and orange.

[17:49] Yeah, that's it.

[17:54] Yeah.

[17:57] Yeah.

[18:00] We're asking about.

[18:01] Yeah.

[18:09] Tim, see that the problem?

[18:11] The one size Remember my first presentation.

[18:15] One size does not.

[18:17] At all OK and if we go back to the Backpage.

[18:21] Page 13 lucky. Page 13 OK.

[18:24] It really is a lucky number.

[18:27] That is, we're setting.

[18:29] The 106.

[18:32] In order to.

[18:33] Achieve thrill.

[18:35] At 1:06.

[18:37] So then Carthage and.

[18:40] Glenwood makeup.

[18:42] OK, now what we also do is you see this unincorporated.

[18:46] County. The county gets the benefit.

[18:49] By enacting your race.

[18:51] I'm really afraid.

[18:54] That's going to go away.

[18:56] OK, they're going to just say county.

[18:59] Just increase the rate for enough for the small cities in town.

[19:04] There's the problem.

[19:05] With the county saying.

[19:07] Oh, we're really fine with.

[19:09] This rate falling under our cap.

[19:13] Because keep in mind, we have two buckets.

[19:17] Of revenue coming in.

[19:19] We have the bucket of revenue from our rate.

[19:22] And then we have the bucket of revenue coming in.

[19:25] From here.

[19:25] For the county itself.

[19:27] If that gets taken away.

[19:29] Then we would.

[19:30] This totally doesn't make.

[19:32] Doesn't work anymore.

[19:34] Which goes back to.

[19:35] The rate is driven by Rushville.

[19:39] And then benefits Jewel?

[19:43] That could.

[19:46] Also the goal.

[19:47] In any agreement.

[19:49] That we submit.

[19:51] Would to make Carthage in Glenwood.

[19:57] Nobody wants you to run your town and nobody wants to run you out of business.

[20:01] Nowhere in the state of India.

[20:03] OK, they they don't.

[20:05] At least my.

[20:07] I told him to worship.

[20:09] And I believe it.

[20:13] Yeah, on the summer she, I guess we're not putting in actual numbers of rates.

[20:20] In the report, in the report, are we saying that basically?

[20:24] We you know, Rush County is.

[20:28] And blended with his current character of 1.2 per capita Max 1.2.

[20:34] Municipal raid.

[20:36] And so forth, except for we would like.

[20:39] You know the townships.

[20:41] Is that what I think the most is what it's meant to be? I'm not going to intentionally save their OK.

[20:48] Unless you want to.

[20:50] What I'm going to say.

[20:52] What we need to change is the Township.

[20:56] OK, because I think if we.

[20:59] Yes, then we're kind of agreeing.

[21:03] You know, if we say we're, our conceptual problems are.

[21:08] Then were not agreed.

[21:10] And so.

[21:12] That's what I'm thinking.

[21:14] I guess something.

[21:17] From the cities perspective, I'm not talking about just but.

[21:21] Things that we are adjusted and not in quest.

[21:26] County that other counties I see this is the 1.2 and we're.

[21:30] You know we're getting close to that 1.2 under our current numbers now we lookout.

[21:35] 2031 two 1032 probably not going to be about to make.

[21:39] Rush to let the other hole.

[21:41] That's something that I might recommend is.

[21:44] Suggesting that that right be increased.

[21:46] So to what?

[21:48] OK, so that's something.

[21:52] Obviously the committee went after him.

[21:55] You know, if they want to submit.

[21:57] So yes, Jason, I'm aware that.

[22:00] You know, some cities have.

[22:02] We need one point.

[22:03] I love what we first.

[22:06] Concerned with when I represent.

[22:08] Count is that if you know you represent the city.

[22:12] If we take year to 1.5.

[22:15] They may say that's great.

[22:17] Now we'll take the County Down.

[22:19] 1.2 to one.

[22:22] So we gotta be kind of careful because.

[22:25] You know.

[22:26] That the sword could cut both ways.

[22:29] In whose head visit?

[22:32] And that would be in this case.

[22:34] He could be the county.

[22:36] Especially if we don't say.

[22:38] Oh, wait a minute.

[22:39] Then we need 1.5 on the county side too, right?

[22:43] And I'm just seeing.

[22:44] That is a mathematical example, nothing more.

[22:48] So you know, not sure it becomes.

[22:52] 8 critical issues.

[22:54] So if.

[22:55] If you would prom.

[22:57] Opposed 1.5 or let's just use that as a hypothetical.

[23:02] And Charlie, I don't know what your.

[23:05] You as an Italian response would be.

[23:08] I think I said what you might.

[23:10] Sure. Well.

[23:13] I mean, if we're trying to keep everybody, all the ones.

[23:17] You know, I mean they need more. We need.

[23:20] I understand, but.

[23:24] What happened in my?

[23:27] Disagree.

[23:31] I don't think it is going to be going on in.

[23:34] 3031 of the legislature meeting again next year and next year, you know, this is all probably going to change, I think for.

[23:41] I frankly feel they're sitting here wasting their time, but.

[23:45] It's my soapbox on it because they're going to change it.

[23:51] But we're going to do what they say to do right now.

[23:55] But I I don't know.

[23:56] I don't want to lock anything in.

[24:05] And my understanding that.

[24:07] Come to the first of the year to commit this.

[24:10] Many of the state committee.

[24:13] I'm sorry, which committee are you thought you were talking about?

[24:17] That what you're, you're sending this in and then there's a committee that's going to.

[24:22] Do it or not.

[24:22] Oh, I'm sorry. OK, let me go back to what I kind of said that there were.

[24:26] There's a couple things going on.

[24:28] The townships are going to be reviewed by DLGF and they're going to be numbered.

[24:34] OK. And they're going to have a submitted number?

[24:37] And if you're.

[24:39] A5 You might have to merge with the zero, or zero might have to merge with five.

[24:44] We don't know where that's all going to go speak to.

[24:46] The mushroom.

[24:48] Add to meet by August 1.

[24:51] Had to meet or by October One. We had two meetings by October.

[24:55] We have to have our recording by November 7th.

[24:59] After that.

[25:00] It goes into the dark deep hole.

[25:02] And we don't know what happened.

[25:04] After that, OK.

[25:06] Do you guys?

[25:07] OK, so it goes into the dark deep hole.

[25:11] And they will meet January, February mark the state legislature.

[25:16] And we'll probably get what I call SB2.

[25:20] It's just what I've labeled.

[25:21] What it might look like now when?

[25:24] For enactment in 2020.

[25:26] That's all I knew about.

[25:29] The current events that are scheduled to happen.

[25:34] Ask another question. Does it like whereas county?

[25:37] But what about the counties that are not having that? Must be what's going to happen with that.

[25:41] At this point in time, Fayette County has not.

[25:46] Yeah, we're not in two counties.

[25:49] You're in two counties. Oh, OK.

[25:51] Well, what you should do is bring 1800.

[25:55] Council President.

[25:56] And say, you know, it'd be really helpful if you.

[25:59] Abby must need.

[26:01] There's lots of good people out there that will help you.

[26:04] But you know.

[26:06] To protect.

[26:06] 50% of the Subs.

[26:09] Because they don't have time.

[26:11] Well, there's we'll have your first meeting by October one. Last time I looked it was September 1.

[26:16] So and I had new.

[26:18] Grandchild.

[26:19] Warm this morning, so I'll remember that one real well.

[26:23] So they've got 30 days in town.

[26:26] Well, I was. I didn't. I didn't go to the auditor.

[26:30] And since they talked about it.

[26:32] Super, OK.

[26:34] Well, yeah, and I'm having everybody do all kinds of things. I'm having a lawyer do one this afternoon.

[26:40] The County Attorney is running.

[26:43] That's going to be fun.

[26:45] So, you know, everybody's doing a little different thing.

[26:48] Rush County is doing it right now.

[26:51] And I.

[26:55] I really as a small town and concerned I I really do appreciate it.

[27:04] And that's the key.

[27:06] Yeah, because.

[27:09] You had good partnership with?

[27:11] Nurse county and listed.

[27:14] We continue that.

[27:16] And we can't make it if we don't have proper.

[27:19] And that includes the Township.

[27:25] Anything else?

[27:26] What do we need to meet?

[27:28] Again, we.

[27:32] Yeah, let's, let's work on our schedules. I'm, I'm very, very booked in September. We need to come up with a date.

[27:38] And and I need few weeks to come up with this.

[27:41] I'll come up with this.

[27:43] Adjusted paragraph.

[27:44] Will circulate into everybody before the meeting.

[27:47] You know, get shot.

[27:49] And I'm hoping maybe we can.

[27:52] Nail something down, let's not go too fast.

[27:55] On the next meeting.

[27:56] But they have something down.

[27:58] That basically the next meeting we devote.

[28:02] Right. And that makes it more efficient?

[28:04] Rather than us having a third meeting to custom discuss the paragraph.

[28:09] And then have fourth meeting.

[28:10] To vote.

[28:12] Does that make sense?

[28:14] People, everybody.

[28:15] OK, and you know keeps you from.

[28:19] You got to get those Township books.

[28:21] All put together and budgets all put together.

[28:24] Have the budget here and so.

[28:25] I know you're busy in September, October too.

[28:31] So.

[28:34] Probably, maybe the end of September or.

[28:37] Of October.

[28:40] My team will come up with a date.

[28:43] So I'd like to point out there's an AIMS conference for cities and families. There's and there's an Association of Counties

[28:48] conference which I may be speaking at twice, but.

[28:53] Trying to get out of.

[28:55] So yeah, there's some of those coming.

[28:58] I think that the end is.

[29:01] And in the morning it seems to work really well. I'm like last thing I need is another nightbeat.

[29:07] Do you guys?

[29:10] Do you ladies agree?

[29:12] Warnings or something like that. So.

[29:15] So if if you want to.

[29:17] Get with Gloria.

[29:18] Jimmy wouldn't kind of come up with some dates.

[29:21] Based on will will you be out to heal?

[29:24] I'm sure that's why I didn't know. Maybe we can meet October 14th at 8:00 before.

[29:32] Oh OK, send that to me.

[29:35] Take write that down please.

[29:38] October 14th.

[29:42] Right now that.

[29:44] Before council meeting. That's our next council meeting.

[29:47] Or that'll be our.

[29:54] OK, October 8th, 14th.

[30:05] Yeah.

[30:08] OK, great.

[30:09] So back to you.

[30:13] Anything else?

[30:15] I did and real quick.

[30:19] The The meeting will not be here.

[30:27] So if you vote no, you get locked up.

[30:40] That you get locked up.

[30:50] Definitely outside the door.

[30:52] Motion by Rachel.

[30:55] Thank you. Thank you.

[31:03] And you took attendance?

[31:05] Those of you that did not sign in.

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