[0:05] So it's 8pm. So good evening and

[0:07] welcome to this extraordinary

[0:09] budget session on Monday, January 26, 2026.

[0:14] I now officially

[0:15] open the session. I would

[0:17] need a nominator for the adoption of the

[0:19] agenda.

[0:22] THANKS.

[0:24] So before giving the floor to the

[0:27] gentleman,

[0:29] I wanted to read a few words to you. So

[0:31] it goes like this. So dear citizens,

[0:36] colleagues of the municipal council, ladies and

[0:38] gentlemen, thank you for being present this evening

[0:41] for this presentation of the

[0:43] municipal budget. This is an important time of year

[0:46] to introduce ourselves and

[0:49] explain our choices, and above all to

[0:51] demonstrate how we are planning

[0:53] the future of our municipality.

[0:56] This year, the budgetary context is

[0:59] particular, notably due to

[1:01] the entry into force of a new

[1:03] land tax roll which is changing the value of

[1:05] properties in our territory. At the

[1:08] same time, we also have to deal

[1:10] with an increase in expenses, like

[1:12] several municipalities are currently doing.

[1:15] The costs associated with

[1:17] infrastructure maintenance, roads, snow

[1:19] removal, citizen services,

[1:22] contracts, materials and even

[1:25] energy have all increased. We must

[1:28] also not overlook the impact of

[1:30] the increase in the land tax on the tax

[1:32] codes of our municipality. In addition to this, there are

[1:37] unavoidable obligations such as improving the

[1:39] quality of our services, maintaining and

[1:41] even increasing security, supporting our

[1:44] organizations and responding to the

[1:46] growing needs of our community.

[1:48] Despite these challenges, we have worked

[1:51] with a clear objective: to

[1:54] present you with a realistic, balanced,

[1:56] and forward-looking budget. A budget that

[1:59] protects essential services and

[2:01] plans for

[2:03] necessary investments.

[2:10] I want to make it clear to you that an increase

[2:12] in property assessment does not

[2:15] automatically mean an equivalent increase

[2:18] in your tax bill, but it does

[2:20] require adjustments, balance

[2:23] and rigorous management to distribute

[2:25] the

[2:26] spending pressure as fairly as possible using the

[2:28] tools at our disposal.

[2:31] Tonight, we will therefore explain

[2:33] the main directions, the

[2:36] main expenditure items and the impact of the

[2:38] new land role on taxation. in

[2:40] the simplest and

[2:42] clearest way possible. Thank you in

[2:44] advance for your attention and

[2:46] interest. Your participation is

[2:48] important because this budget belongs to

[2:50] the municipality and to our

[2:53] crazy community. So before giving the floor to the

[2:56] gentleman, I would like to clarify that the

[2:58] question period will be at the end of

[3:02] all the points on the

[3:04] agenda. So without further ado, sir,

[3:07] I give you the floor.

[3:09] Thank you very much, madam. So,

[3:11] let's get started, ready? We will actually begin

[3:15] by talking about the land role, as

[3:17] Madame la Meresse so aptly mentioned.

[3:19] So we have a new land role

[3:20] for 2026-2027.

[3:24] So what does that mean

[3:26] overall? This is because, starting from

[3:28] January 1, 2026, so actually

[3:30] 26 days ago, the land register was

[3:33] updated. So for a given value of

[3:36] 1AR, that's

[3:38] 113601500

[3:41] dollars. So that's the value you

[3:42] see at the bottom of the screen. So that was

[3:45] our value on December 31, 2025.

[3:48] So we woke up on January 1,

[3:51] 2026 and what the municipality was worth in

[3:53] terms of land value was

[3:56] 36.47

[3:57] % higher. So that makes a total of

[4:05] $1519737100. So we're going to look a little

[4:07] more deeply at this in the

[4:09] next few slides before getting

[4:11] into the pure and simple budget. So

[4:12] what is the role of land ownership? What

[4:14] impact could this have and how should

[4:16] elected officials and the administration

[4:18] work from this? So what you

[4:21] need to understand from this slide is that there has been

[4:23] an

[4:24] average increase. So the houses on

[4:28] average, so there are some that have increased

[4:29] by less than that, there are some that have

[4:30] increased by more than that. So

[4:32] the average increase in our

[4:34] land role is 36.47

[4:36] %.

[4:38] So we're going to watch a short video that

[4:40] will explain to us, in general terms, what a

[4:42] property assessment of a residence is.

[5:09] Excuse me.

[6:59] So what we just explained to you is

[7:01] not actually specific to areas below the

[7:04] snow. This is good for all

[7:05] municipalities in Quebec. So the

[7:07] land register is updated every 3 years

[7:09] and in fact there are different methods

[7:11] for assessing a residence. And in fact

[7:14] what you need to know is that the

[7:16] reference value is as of July 1st before the

[7:19] filing. So for us it's

[7:20] July 1st, 2024. That being said, how does

[7:24] all this impact your tax bill,

[7:28] the increase in your

[7:30] residence tax? And in fact, what we would like to

[7:32] propose is to do

[7:33] two small examples with you to

[7:36] understand what impact this has. And in

[7:38] fact, we're going to take an example where the

[7:40] value, the increase, and these are

[7:43] cases that we'll see in the

[7:45] municipality when we see a 71%

[7:48] increase in land value. In

[7:50] the other example, we are closer to an

[7:51] 8% increase in

[7:53] land values. So these are

[7:54] scenarios that we're going to look at and we're just going to

[7:57] look together at what that implies in

[7:59] terms of the tax account. So if we

[8:02] look at this example, so the

[8:04] left column in the year 2025, so it is a

[8:07] value, a residence, sorry,

[8:10] that was worth $356,000 on our

[8:13] old property assessment roll. So

[8:17] $356,000 will become our

[8:18] reference value. So, regarding the

[8:21] property tax rate for 2025, the rate

[8:23] was 64.7

[8:26] cents per 100 dollars. So the

[8:29] property tax for that residence of

[8:31] $356,000 was

[8:34] $2,303.

[8:37] We wake up on January 1st, 2026,

[8:40] our residence is worth $6100. So

[8:43] that represents a 71% increase

[8:47] compared to and all of that was evaluated

[8:49] in relation to the short video you

[8:51] saw, in fact, the

[8:52] evaluation methods. So the owner ends

[8:55] up with a residence that has increased in

[8:59] value by 71% (sorry), and the

[9:02] average increase is 36.47

[9:04] %. So this particular residence has increased in

[9:06] value much more than the

[9:08] average value. So what kind of

[9:10] impact does that have? Our

[9:12] working tool for adjusting

[9:14] the land roll is that we take

[9:16] the average increase, so 36.47

[9:19] %, and we decrease our rate of 100

[9:23] dollars by 36.47%. So the goal is actually to bring back

[9:29] the

[9:32] same amount of money to the municipality between December 31st and January 1st, that's

[9:33] our starting value. So we are

[9:35] reducing this 64.7

[9:37] C which was the rate for 2025 and we are bringing it back

[9:39] , we are adjusting it to the value of 2026

[9:42] with the increase of 36.47%. That

[9:45] rate gives us 47.4 cents per

[9:49] $100 of valuation.

[9:51] So for that residence which was worth

[9:53] $356,000 in 2025, now in

[9:56] 2026 it is worth $60,000.

[10:00] The adjusted rate of 47.4 cents per

[10:03] 100 dollars of assessment is applied. So, regarding his

[10:05] new tax account, we haven't done anything yet

[10:08] . We simply adjusted the

[10:10] tax account to create the same revenue stream

[10:12] for the municipality. So this

[10:15] tax bill now amounts to $2891. So

[10:19] this person experienced an

[10:20] increase in their tax bill of

[10:22] $588. So that's a reality we're going to

[10:25] experience. The distribution of

[10:27] revenue in the municipality

[10:29] based on property values will be

[10:32] redistributed within the municipality. The reason for

[10:35] this is that there are

[10:36] people whose values are very

[10:38] far from the 36.47% which is the average.

[10:41] So there are people who are very high up

[10:43] and people who are much lower down.

[10:45] Then through that, well, we have a

[10:47] tax rate that we can use, which is

[10:48] our tax rate for all

[10:50] residences. So we need to lower it by the

[10:52] average rate and we start from there for

[10:55] 2026. So if we take another example,

[10:59] perhaps a more fun example

[11:02] for the resident. So even in 2025,

[11:05] we start with a residence value

[11:07] of $356,000 from the previous assessment roll, which will be

[11:10] our reference value. So

[11:12] here again, we have the $2303 from 2025. The

[11:16] new value of this residence in

[11:18] 2026 is now

[11:21] $384,500. So that means an

[11:23] 8% increase in value. So

[11:27] many below 36.47

[11:29] %, which is the average rate. So if we

[11:32] apply our adjusted 2026 rate, which is

[11:35] 47.4 cents per $100, the

[11:38] new property tax account for

[11:40] this staff becomes $1823.

[11:43] Therefore, this employee will experience a

[11:44] $480 decrease in their

[11:47] tax bill. So this is what

[11:50] the administration and elected officials had to

[11:54] work with as a starting point.

[11:56] So an average increase of 36.47

[11:59] %. We are lowering the tax rate from

[12:02] 36.47%, which becomes our new

[12:05] reference value. And that's what we

[12:08] worked from. So we are

[12:09] very aware that depending on the

[12:11] increases in land values, there will be

[12:12] a

[12:14] redistribution in the municipality

[12:16] according to the increases you

[12:18] have experienced in terms of your resistance.

[12:20] If you don't know the

[12:23] new property value of your

[12:24] residence, if you're interested

[12:26] in knowing it before you get your

[12:28] tax bill in February, know that we

[12:31] have a platform called voilà

[12:33] which allows you, by registering, to

[12:36] access your new

[12:38] property value. So if

[12:40] you are interested, you can either

[12:43] call us at the municipality or

[12:45] go to our website. You

[12:47] will have all the information there

[12:49] to be able to connect to the

[12:50] platform and you will have access to your

[12:52] new land value there before

[12:54] receiving your tax bill there uh

[12:56] in the 3rd week of February.

[12:59] So this is the small land role block that we are

[13:02] presenting to

[13:05] explain the situation for

[13:07] 2026. So if we jump to the heart of the

[13:11] matter regarding the

[13:12] 2026 budget forecasts, the municipality has

[13:16] a 2026 operating budget of

[13:22] $11,584,700. So that represents an

[13:24] increase of 9.26% compared to

[13:28] 2025. And I assure you right now

[13:31] , this is not the rate

[13:32] of increase in taxes, the 9.26, but

[13:35] rather the rate of increase in the

[13:37] operating budget. So the municipality has

[13:40] several sources of revenue including

[13:41] property taxes and therefore an adjustment of

[13:44] some revenues there which means

[13:46] that the operating budget goes up to

[13:50] $11,584,700 which is an increase of

[13:52] 9.26%. We'll see later

[13:55] in the presentation what that

[13:57] means in terms of

[13:58] property tax.

[14:00] Otherwise, we will also present

[14:02] our three-year

[14:03] capital investment program, so our famous

[14:05] projects for the coming years which

[14:07] totals a pre-subsidy amount

[14:10] of

[14:13] $27,984,500.

[14:16] So if we start with revenues, so

[14:18] at the level of tax revenues, so that's

[14:21] property tax, we had

[14:24] a budget in 2025 of

[14:28] $7,541,000 and a budget in 2026 of

[14:32] $8,143,000. This can be explained by, uh,

[14:35] the increase,

[14:37] the number of residences which is increasing,

[14:39] people who are making repairs and

[14:41] also the rate of increase in

[14:43] property tax which we will see later. Here again

[14:45] , the 8% does not reflect the

[14:48] rate of increase in property tax,

[14:49] but rather the amalgamation of

[14:52] the overall increase in

[14:54] land value and the tax rate.

[14:57] Otherwise, in terms of pricing and

[14:59] compensation, we are

[15:01] mainly thinking about pricing for

[15:02] water, tastes, uh,

[15:06] ritual materials, so collection and

[15:07] the ecocentre, we are talking about an increase

[15:09] of 14%, so we are going from 1,769,900

[15:14] to

[15:17] 22,200 dollars. Uh, in terms of

[15:19] transfers, uh, we go from

[15:21] $179,000 to

[15:24] $471,300. So that's an increase of

[15:25] 163%. In terms of services rendered, we

[15:30] go from $216,000 to

[15:33] $183,200. So mainly because there was

[15:36] a different distribution between

[15:38] services rendered and transfers. So these were

[15:39] elements that were considered

[15:42] services rendered, which we

[15:44] transferred in the transfers. So that's where

[15:45] the impact comes from. We'll take

[15:47] the questions at the end. I know yes yes

[15:54] in the question for those who

[15:57] are online and who may not have

[15:59] understood the question so in fact we are being

[16:01] asked the difference between

[16:02] transfers and services rendered so at the

[16:04] level of services rendered the way it was

[16:06] treated that's really all what results

[16:07] from

[16:09] particular agreements so for example we

[16:11] have an agreement with the city of

[16:12] Beaupré and they pay us a certain

[16:15] number of dollars same thing at the

[16:17] MTQ level for example We would have a

[16:19] particular agreement with the others.

[16:20] So uh, it was considered services

[16:22] rendered and the transfers, well, it's more

[16:24] than what is governmental and does

[16:25] n't necessarily have an agreement uh that is

[16:27] related to all of that. So I'll give you an

[16:29] example. We always get

[16:31] a 1% refund of the QST.

[16:34] So those transfers are part of that from that perspective

[16:37] . Otherwise, it's fine in terms of taxes and

[16:39] duties, so mainly

[16:41] transfer taxes and

[16:44] other taxes and duties. So we're

[16:46] going from $590,000 to

[16:49] $680,000. So that's a

[16:52] 15% increase in revenue from that side.

[16:54] Regarding fines and penalties, sorry,

[16:57] we're going from $35,000 to

[16:58] $20,000 and we've come to stick a

[17:00] little closer to our reality of

[17:02] the last year where we had overestimated

[17:05] our revenues on that side. So,

[17:07] in terms of interest, it's still the same

[17:09] thing. In 2025, we based our projections on

[17:11] 2024 revenues, and we overestimated a bit

[17:13] for 2025. So now we're back to

[17:16] something more reasonable for

[17:17] 2026 at $70,000. Mainly

[17:20] , interest is the income that

[17:22] can be generated from our investments or the

[17:25] interest that is collected on

[17:27] tax accounts, right? So, for people who

[17:29] come to pay their tax bill late

[17:31] , interest

[17:32] accrues. So it's these interests that we're

[17:34] talking about here. Otherwise, various incomes,

[17:37] so other incomes,

[17:40] for example, the rural pact is part

[17:42] of these other incomes. So it's

[17:45] small incomes like that which we'll

[17:47] put in the "other" section. And otherwise,

[17:49] uh, regarding allocations, uh,

[17:52] last year we planned to use the

[17:55] $150,000, more or less $150,000, of

[17:57] our accumulated surplus. So this year,

[17:59] uh, what will be the use of the

[18:01] accumulated surplus there, uh, is uh, it's 0

[18:04] dollars. So uh there will be no

[18:05] accumulated surplus that will be used this

[18:07] year, at least for operations.

[18:11] In terms of the details of tax revenue,

[18:13] in terms of property tax, uh, as

[18:16] I was saying earlier, this

[18:17] year, if we look at column 2026, we

[18:20] were at

[18:23] $8,143,000. Just to give you a little bit of an

[18:25] idea of the residential

[18:27] versus non-residential level, so we

[18:30] often talk about it, you often hear the

[18:31] council talking about

[18:33] income diversification, right? You know that there is

[18:35] strong pressure on

[18:37] residential land. We don't have much

[18:39] commerce and we don't have much

[18:40] industry. So, uh, we demonstrate it

[18:43] with this slide here. So out of the

[18:45] $8,143,000, there are $7,386,400

[18:50] that come from residences, so

[18:52] people from

[18:55] residences. And uh for everything that is

[18:58] non-residential, so

[18:59] industrial and commercial, we are talking about an

[19:01] investment of $757,000. In terms of

[19:05] sector taxes, uh this year we

[19:07] go from $407,200 to almost

[19:10] $400,000, so

[19:13] $399,200, which represents a

[19:14] decrease of 2%. And at the

[19:17] municipal services level, as I was talking about

[19:19] earlier, the high pricing and

[19:21] residual material taste and at the

[19:24] emergency centre level, 911. So we are talking about an

[19:27] overall increase from 1,346,700

[19:31] to 1,601,000,

[19:33] which represents an increase of 14

[19:36] %.

[19:37] So in total, if we look at

[19:39] property tax, sector tax and

[19:42] municipal service rates at the

[19:45] revenue level, if you see at the bottom

[19:47] in the small green line, we

[19:48] go from $9,300,000 to

[19:53] $10,143,000,200, which represents an

[19:55] increase of 9%. If

[19:58] you look at the expenses now at the

[20:00] general administration level, in

[20:02] 2025 we were at $1,928,000.

[20:05] This year, we are therefore seeing a 2%

[20:07] increase, bringing it to

[20:11] $1976150. At the level of

[20:13] public safety, therefore, our code starts from being included

[20:15] in that budget item. So, we

[20:17] go from $1,347,500

[20:20] to

[20:22] $1,501,000. Uh, in terms of transport, uh,

[20:26] we go from 2544600

[20:29] to 2976200.

[20:32] In this budget item,

[20:33] mainly, we have everything related to snow

[20:35] removal contracts. You know

[20:38] that our snow removal contract was

[20:40] 5 years old, so pre-pandemic. So, we

[20:43] renewed our snow

[20:44] removal contract. We have seen a

[20:46] 35% increase in snow

[20:49] removal costs. This is the increase that

[20:51] other municipalities and

[20:53] individuals have experienced throughout the pandemic,

[20:55] which we were fortunate enough not to have

[20:56] yet experienced because we

[20:58] renewed our contract just before the

[20:59] pandemic. So all of this has caught up with us

[21:02] this year. So from the

[21:04] summer season of 2025, which has just

[21:07] begun, we are at a level of snow

[21:09] removal contract where we have experienced a

[21:11] 35% increase on that side.

[21:14] Environmental hygiene, uh, so we go from

[21:16] 1251829

[21:18] to 1537000.

[21:21] So what is included in that is

[21:22] all the codes part, uh, at the level

[21:25] of the wastewater treatment plant in Beau Prix. You

[21:27] know that we are in co-ownership with

[21:30] Saint-An de Beaupré, Saint-Joischin

[21:34] Beuprè. Yes, thank you. I have a little, a

[21:35] little, 2 minutes. So, it

[21:37] mainly affects this area; you'll see

[21:39] when we get to the

[21:40] pricing section, there are some

[21:42] pretty significant increases on that

[21:43] side. Well, otherwise, in terms of health and

[21:46] well-being, it's mainly our

[21:48] codep at the OMH. So a 3%

[21:50] increase. On that side, we go

[21:52] from $5000 to $5150. In

[21:56] terms of urban planning and

[21:57] economic development, there is a

[21:59] decrease on that side. So, we go

[22:00] from $764,000 to $734,000 and

[22:05] $734,600, sorry. In terms of

[22:09] leisure and culture, we therefore go from

[22:11] $90,800 to $129,000,

[22:14] mainly related to the day camp.

[22:17] So we still have costs

[22:19] that have been incurred at the level of the day camp

[22:21] and the workforce. Uh, and uh, in

[22:24] terms of financing costs, there's been another

[22:25] increase, interest rates

[22:27] have gone up. So we went from

[22:30] $496,500 to $603,800, which represents a

[22:33] 22% increase for, uh,

[22:36] interest charges. So all of this brings us to

[22:38] a total of 10362900 for 2026

[22:42] in terms of expenses, which represents

[22:44] 12%. And in terms of

[22:46] capital repayment on

[22:48] long-term debt, there is a slight decrease.

[22:50] We had fewer loan settlements

[22:52] last year. So, we got that because

[22:55] we were lucky enough to have reduced

[22:57] our debt there. So we're at 117800

[23:01] on that side. So, it's more of a

[23:03] maintenance position with a small decrease

[23:05] of 1%. So this brings us to a

[23:07] total expenditure in 2026 of

[23:12] $11,470,700, therefore an increase of 11%.

[23:17] In quick succession regarding expenses, I was

[23:19] talking about part codes, so we

[23:21] present them here in more detail. Oh,

[23:24] it extends further. Oh, he's back. Uh, at the

[23:27] MRC level, so we go from a

[23:30] share of 691,000 plus or minus 691,000 to

[23:33] plus or minus 716,000 dollars. Can you

[23:36] give me microphone

[23:45] 1 or 2 like that? Great. We will continue.

[23:49] So, in terms of Quebec security,

[23:50] we've gone from $961,000 and we've just

[23:53] passed the million mark. So we're

[23:55] at

[23:57] $15,000, which is an increase

[23:58] of 4.6%. At the OMH level, we are at

[24:02] 3%. So we are, uh, we are within the

[24:04] standards in that respect. Uh, at the level of

[24:06] the Quebec metropolitan community,

[24:08] so the CMQ, we go from $48,500 to

[24:12] $53,700. So that represents a

[24:15] 10% increase. at the

[24:18] RENA intermunicipal region level, so

[24:20] we go from 80,000 to 83,500 dollars, so

[24:23] an increase of 4.4%. At the

[24:27] water treatment plant level, therefore in

[24:29] collaboration with the city of Beaupré

[24:31] and other municipalities. And that's where

[24:33] the Bobless comes in, going from

[24:36] $245,100 to

[24:39] $386,500. So that represents a

[24:40] 50.7% increase in share codes. in

[24:45] terms of mobile pricing. So, it's

[24:47] clear that in terms of comparison, we've

[24:48] introduced an additional service.

[24:52] It's certain that the increase there is

[24:55] exploding. So with the 360 bus, we

[24:58] go from a contribution of

[25:00] $30,000 to $105,000. So,

[25:02] with these additional services, that definitely represents

[25:03] a difference of 350%. And

[25:07] otherwise, in terms of contributions to

[25:08] organizations, we are going from

[25:10] $72,000 to $75,000. So it's a

[25:13] monetary value of $75,000, right? It is important to

[25:16] know that there are many services

[25:17] rendered, or which are not quantified,

[25:20] that we will work to monetize and

[25:22] quantify there in 2026. So it is certain

[25:25] that our report at the level of the

[25:26] organizations is much higher there

[25:27] than the 75,000 dollars monetary that we

[25:29] see there. Uh, but that will be something

[25:32] that we can present to you there, uh,

[25:33] as part of the 2027 budget. So, in

[25:36] terms of code shares, we are going from

[25:41] $2,133,000 in 2025 to

[25:44] $2,430,000 in 2026, which represents a

[25:48] rounded increase of 14%. So you

[25:51] know that in terms of these parts, we don't have

[25:53] much to say. We

[25:55] receive the bill and we pay it. So,

[25:57] it's certain that there are some elements that we

[25:58] can put in place. So we are

[26:00] thinking, for example, you will see in

[26:01] the PTI later, we have a

[26:03] sheathing program for some of our

[26:06] water pipes. So we are

[26:08] preparing for the next

[26:10] characterizations of our

[26:12] agreement with the city of Beaupré for

[26:14] the wastewater treatment plant to put ourselves in

[26:15] a better position and reduce

[26:17] these codep, at least that is the bet we are

[26:20] going to take for the next few

[26:22] years

[26:24] in terms of the tax rate.

[26:26] So if we look at this at the residual level,

[26:28] which is residential, the

[26:30] 2025 rate was 64.7

[26:33] cents.

[26:35] So the adjusted rate we were talking about earlier is

[26:37] reduced from 36.47

[26:39] %, which becomes our reference rate,

[26:42] to 47.7 cents, and the 2026 rate will be

[26:47] 49.8 cents, which represents an

[26:49] increase of 2.4 cents, so that

[26:52] represents an increase of 5%.

[26:55] Uh, that 5%, uh, comes and is

[26:58] replicated there on the non-

[27:01] residential rate, so the commercial rate.

[27:04] So we were at 1 dollar and 14.74 cents

[27:10] in 2025, we went to 81.4 cents at the

[27:14] adjusted rate. So we are

[27:17] increasing everything by 5%, which

[27:19] gives us a rate of 88.3

[27:22] cents per 100 dollars at the commercial level

[27:25] for 2026. Agricultural rate, same as

[27:28] the residential rate. So we go to

[27:30] 49.8 cents per 100 dollars. At the

[27:34] industrial level, therefore the same as

[27:36] the commercial level, so we go to 88.3 sous

[27:40] on the

[27:43] industrial rate side. And at the level of the

[27:46] vacant land, the vacant lands

[27:47] served, so what the elected officials

[27:50] wanted to send a message from that

[27:51] side, so we decided to maintain

[27:53] the rate. So the rate that was at

[27:55] 79.5

[27:57] in 2025 before the adjustment.

[28:00] So we kept it. Uh, so it's at

[28:02] 8, uh, 80 cents per 100

[28:05] dollars for serviced vacant lots

[28:07] .

[28:11] Regarding the tax rates, if

[28:13] we look at the pricing

[28:15] now, so regarding

[28:18] property tax as I was saying, we have gone

[28:19] to 49.8 cents. If we look at the

[28:22] vertical column at the 2026 rate, which we will scroll down to the bottom, there is

[28:25] the

[28:27] pricing for

[28:28] municipal services, so water, uh, so when we were

[28:30] telling you there that the

[28:32] increases are very

[28:34] specific in the sense that we look at

[28:37] the 2025 experience and we adjust. So that doesn't

[28:39] mean that rates won't fall back down

[28:41] . Here you have rates

[28:42] that are decreasing, but we really base the

[28:44] 2025 rate adjustment on the

[28:47] 2026 rate. So we will base

[28:49] the 2027 rate adjustment on the

[28:51] 2026 rate. So these are pricing structures.

[28:53] Often there is a little more

[28:54] volatility. So at the water level, we

[28:57] go from $116 to $146, which

[28:59] is an increase of $20. And these

[29:02] are fixed prices for

[29:05] the residences. So that's a

[29:06] direct increase of $20

[29:08] for people who have the ACUC service.

[29:10] At the sewer level, the price increases from

[29:13] $139 to $173. When we were

[29:15] looking earlier at the Beaupré

[29:17] city wastewater treatment plant

[29:18] , well, that's where

[29:19] it comes to light. So, we're

[29:21] talking about a 24% increase on

[29:24] that side in terms of

[29:26] waste collection. And this year, we deliberately

[29:28] separated them there

[29:30] because, as you know, we actually have the

[29:33] municipality bought trucks and we have been

[29:35] responsible since January 1st for doing

[29:37] the collection ourselves. There were

[29:39] people who had many fears and

[29:40] wondered if we would be

[29:42] able to be profitable or if we would make

[29:44] our money with all of this.

[29:46] So the rate for 2026 is going

[29:48] from a rate of $133 to a rate of

[29:51] $136 for the collection of

[29:52] residual materials. So that's a

[29:53] 2% increase on that side. And in

[29:57] fact, the other municipalities are not

[29:59] even being taken into consideration yet.

[30:01] So you know that this is a project that

[30:03] is in collaboration with Saint-Joischin

[30:05] and Saint Titre. So, we could

[30:07] expect, uh, from next year,

[30:09] from January 1, 2027, that, uh, there will be

[30:11] less pressure on the

[30:13] residual collection level because there are

[30:14] certain expenses that

[30:16] will be shared with these two

[30:17] municipalities that this year we

[30:19] took entirely on ourselves because

[30:21] these two municipalities are not

[30:22] yet in our

[30:24] intermunicipal agreement. An interesting fact to

[30:26] note is that we have a grant from Mamache

[30:28] on that side for the

[30:30] waste management colleague. We will be

[30:33] able to raise $350,000 over 3 years

[30:35] thanks to this

[30:37] collaborative project with the two other

[30:40] municipalities, Saint-Joischin and

[30:41] Saint-Desc. At the level of the COCRs, there was a very

[30:44] sharp increase in the volume of

[30:47] waste that was brought in

[30:51] 2025, and also an increase in

[30:53] transport costs. So we're talking about an

[30:56] increase directly for the ecocentre

[30:57] . The price has increased from $57 and $50 to

[31:00] $73. So, these are still

[31:03] pricings that can be very

[31:04] volatile depending on the rates and the

[31:08] tonnage that will be brought to

[31:10] the ecocentre in 2026. But we will

[31:11] readjust the rate in 2027, but we have had

[31:14] a very strong increase compared

[31:15] to 2024 in terms of

[31:19] the increase in tonnage at

[31:21] the ecocentre. Otherwise, the

[31:22] sector taxes, the sector taxes are

[31:24] actually there, and you will see it in

[31:25] the tax account example that we will

[31:27] do later. Uh, it's not a tax, it's

[31:29] an average rate.

[31:31] Not everyone here has

[31:32] sector taxes. So, we just wanted to

[31:35] put it there, but it

[31:37] still decreased by 2% on that side on

[31:39] average. And otherwise the septic tanks,

[31:41] so we were at $104 for

[31:44] the septic tanks. We return in

[31:45] 2026 to $99 in terms of

[31:48] pricing for emptying false

[31:50] septic tanks. That's a 5% decrease on

[31:52] that side.

[31:55] So, the example of a tax account,

[31:57] how do we take a

[31:59] house value and then how will all of that end up

[32:01] there in your

[32:04] tax account specifically? So we're going to

[32:06] do an example with all the services,

[32:08] so that's the example on the left, and we're

[32:10] going to do an example with uh without water

[32:13] and without sewer, so someone who would

[32:14] only have the septic tank service

[32:15] . And uh, for the sake of this,

[32:18] we took an

[32:20] average increase in residence which is 36.47%,

[32:24] so that is the average increase.

[32:26] So if we start there in all the

[32:28] services with the vertical column so

[32:31] 2025 so if we go in bursts so a

[32:33] residence of 365000 dollars had a

[32:36] property tax in 2025 of 2362 dollars and

[32:41] rates so of 116 139 133 57

[32:45] and 50 and a sector tax as I was

[32:47] telling you which is an average rate which

[32:49] is applied for everyone

[32:50] who has the same sector tax if you

[32:52] have one. And in fact, that brought us

[32:55] to a tax bill amount of 2980

[33:00] and 50. If we look at the same residence

[33:03] for 2026, it has increased by 36.47

[33:07] %, so it is right in line with the average.

[33:09] So the land role in this example

[33:12] has no impact. So the new

[33:15] value of the residence is

[33:17] $498,000. So we're talking about a

[33:19] property tax of $2480, a water and

[33:23] sewer connection fee of $146, a utility connection fee

[33:25] of $173,

[33:28] garbage collection at $136, ecocentre fee at $73 and

[33:32] a sector tax at $170. So the

[33:35] total tax bill in this

[33:36] example would be $3178, which

[33:40] represents an increase of $

[33:41] 197 and $50. In an example without water and sewer connections,

[33:46] someone who has their

[33:48] own well and only the

[33:51] septic tank is emptied by the

[33:52] municipality depending on whether it is

[33:55] a primary or

[33:57] secondary residence. So if we

[34:00] look, pardon, at the 2025 tax bill in

[34:02] verp, the same residence was worth

[34:04] $365,000. So we had the same

[34:06] property taxes of $2362.

[34:10] So, the taxation, the pricing, sorry,

[34:13] at the level of garbage collection is

[34:15] $163, the amount for the ecocentre is $

[34:18] 57 and $50, and the emptying of false

[34:20] septics is $104 in 2025.

[34:23] So that made a tax bill of $

[34:24] 2656 and $50. If we look at

[34:28] how that translates in 2026. So the residence price

[34:30] drops to $498,000. So we're talking about

[34:33] a property tax of $2480.

[34:37] Garbage collection at 136, errands at

[34:40] 73, the fake septic tank at 99.

[34:44] So we're looking at a tax bill of

[34:46] 278 dollars. So for a

[34:49] person without access to education and without taste, that represents an

[34:52] increase of 131 and 50.

[34:57] We wanted to show you some,

[35:00] in fact, we wanted to compare ourselves

[35:02] with other

[35:04] municipalities. Often this is done using

[35:06] the tax rate. So, we

[35:09] tell you each municipality what

[35:11] the tax rate is, and for us, we

[35:13] felt that this wasn't the best

[35:15] data to present to you. So for those

[35:18] interested in the Mamache region,

[35:20] you can search for each

[35:22] of the municipalities and you will

[35:23] obtain their financial profile. There is

[35:26] a wealth of relevant information

[35:28] in these financial profiles. So that's what we went

[35:31] looking for: the

[35:32] financial profiles of each of the

[35:35] municipalities of the MRC of

[35:38] Côte de Beauprix. And one of the

[35:40] interesting data points we went to look for

[35:41] was the charges, so the expenses

[35:44] per housing unit. So

[35:46] what is the average tax account? Let's

[35:49] say it like this, uh, at the level of the other

[35:51] municipalities

[35:53] of the MRC de la Courte de Beauprix.

[35:55] So we have the first MRC which

[35:57] happens to be the average value of

[36:00] 3641 dollars and these are data

[36:03] which are 2023 and 2024 the

[36:06] financial profiles are always produced there

[36:08] a year late so for your

[36:10] information uh so if I take the

[36:13] level of Saint des Caps there we are in

[36:14] average expenditure per

[36:16] housing unit of 1947 dollars uh in Saint-

[36:21] Perron-les-Neiges we are at 2330

[36:23] dollars so a little higher than

[36:26] Saint des Caps. At the level of

[36:28] Saint-Joischin, we are at 3147 dollars.

[36:31] So there is still a significant

[36:32] difference. At Beauprix, the price

[36:34] is $4160. At Saint

[36:37] de Beau, the figure is

[36:40] $4466. In Château Richer, it's

[36:45] $296. At guardian age, $3724.

[36:49] And at Bois Châtel, 5373.

[36:52] So if you look at the graph, the

[36:53] yellow line represents the average and

[36:56] the green line represents snow.

[36:59] So we are not telling you

[37:00] that taxes are going to increase by 1000

[37:02] pieces in the coming years. That's

[37:03] not it at all. But in fact I

[37:05] think it's very healthy to compare ourselves

[37:07] and despite the increases we're

[37:09] presenting to you today, what we want to

[37:12] show you is that we are still, we are still,

[37:13] the charge per

[37:16] housing unit is still quite low

[37:18] compared to our comparables at the

[37:19] MRC level in that respect.

[37:21] Uh, the same thing applies to the

[37:24] payroll, we hear that often. That's

[37:26] a question I've had myself, I've been

[37:27] in the position for a year now and I'm

[37:29] often asked about the hiring that's been done in

[37:31] the past and what that would create in terms of

[37:33] the payroll. So

[37:36] we did the same thing, we started from the

[37:37] financial profile that is available

[37:40] on the MAMACH website and we went and

[37:41] extracted the percentage of

[37:44] remuneration, and it is the

[37:46] overall remuneration, on the

[37:48] expenses, so the each. So for its

[37:50] salary cap title, the

[37:53] overall remuneration represents 24% of

[37:55] expenses. For Saintfériol, the figure is 27

[37:58] %. For Saint-Jeoischin, the figure is 22%.

[38:02] For Beauprix, the figure is 33%. For

[38:05] Saint-Anne, the figure is 28%. For Château

[38:08] Richier, we're at 30%. For the

[38:11] guardian angel, we're at 15%. And for Bois

[38:13] Châtel, we are at 28%. What can

[38:16] explain data like

[38:17] Angardien or Saint-Joisin for example

[38:20] is that often these municipalities

[38:23] will have agreements with other

[38:25] municipalities. So for example the

[38:28] goalkeeper who has agreements with Bois

[38:29] Châtel which means that yes, he

[38:31] pays a certain percentage or a

[38:33] certain amount but it is not

[38:34] considered as remuneration in the strict

[38:37] sense. So what we wanted to

[38:40] demonstrate to you is yes, in fact, there has been

[38:41] an increase in recent

[38:43] years in terms of payroll

[38:45] compared to our expenses, but we are still in the

[38:47] middle of the pack compared to the

[38:52] other cities and

[38:54] municipalities in the MRC.

[38:57] So, madam, this is what

[38:58] would outline the

[39:01] budgetary situation before moving on to the

[39:03] three-year investment plan.

[39:07] Thank you so much. So that brings us to

[39:10] item 3 on our agenda,

[39:12] presentation and adoption of the

[39:14] 2026 budget forecasts. So the

[39:17] city council adopts the budget for the

[39:20] 2026 fiscal year as presented, a

[39:23] total of

[39:27] $12,283,900. The allocations therefore include

[39:30] repayment of long-term debt of

[39:34] $117,800, repayment of

[39:36] working capital of $193,000, and

[39:39] election fund of $6,000 for a

[39:41] total of

[39:44] $1,306,800.

[39:46] The total budget less

[39:47] depreciation of

[39:49] $921,000 gives

[39:54] $11,669,700, which is equivalent to our

[39:56] revenue. So I'm going to take a

[39:57] proposal.

[39:59] Propose.

[40:00] THANKS.

[40:02] So that brings us to point 4:

[40:04] presentation and adoption of the

[40:06] three-year capital investment program

[40:08] 2026, 27 and 28. So I'll give you the

[40:11] floor again.

[40:13] Yes. So we're going to share the screen for

[40:17] those who are online. So if we look at it in

[40:20] terms of fixed assets, then for

[40:24] 2026, which is what is planned. Uh, so we are

[40:27] continuing with the plans and specifications

[40:29] for the reflection of Notredame and

[40:31] Petitbourg streets for work that you

[40:33] will see is planned for 2027. Uh, some

[40:36] professional services for the

[40:38] Antoine Bélanger bridge. For those who are wondering

[40:39] , the Antoine

[40:41] Bélanger bridge is the one at the entrance to the

[40:43] municipality. So the MTQ is

[40:45] evaluating the thinking behind this bridge and

[40:48] what makes it possible for it to bring

[40:50] certain professional services to

[40:51] our side. Otherwise, there are some uh

[40:54] works. So, we are

[40:55] planning some work on

[40:57] E Touchette Street. Well, otherwise, we have

[41:01] postponed a PTI that was planned for 2025.

[41:03] So with what is happening with the redesign

[41:06] currently, we will have the chance to

[41:07] start there to look at everything that

[41:09] is the link to mobility in the heart of the

[41:11] village. So we call it a

[41:13] mobility link because we don't yet know if

[41:14] it will be a sidewalk, if

[41:16] it will be a multifunctional building, and so on,

[41:18] we have studies to

[41:22] push through on that side before we can

[41:23] talk to you about the solution. Otherwise, we have some

[41:26] planned discussions regarding the

[41:28] Saint-Nicolas area. So this amount

[41:30] covers the plans and specifications for the entire

[41:32] Saint-Nicolas road and a part under

[41:35] repair which will be done

[41:37] internally. Uh otherwise, we are talking about the

[41:39] acquisition of various

[41:40] fire equipment, so

[41:42] bunker replacements and purchases uh at the level

[41:45] of cylinders. Uh, otherwise, we're talking about

[41:48] driving grip. So again, this

[41:50] includes the plans and quotes for

[41:54] everything that needs to be done in terms of

[41:55] sheathing and certain works on that

[41:57] side which are eligible for

[41:59] subsidies, by the way.

[42:01] Uh, otherwise, uh, actually we are in the

[42:04] project definition phase at the

[42:06] fire station level. So, we are

[42:08] asking ourselves the question of whether we

[42:10] renovate the one we have there or

[42:12] simply move it to a more

[42:14] strategic location. So, these are the studies that we're going to

[42:16] launch this year. Well, otherwise,

[42:19] we're replacing vehicles on

[42:21] the road, mostly

[42:22] service vehicles, so good

[42:23] old pickup trucks. Uh, also our

[42:26] four-wheeler which is at the end of its life, our

[42:27] TTT which is at the end of its life and should

[42:29] be replaced. Well, here again, we have access

[42:31] to subsidies from that side. Uh,

[42:33] otherwise various parts and equipment at the

[42:35] road level for an amount of

[42:37] $80,000. We're talking about the

[42:39] installation and replacement of

[42:40] various signs in the

[42:42] municipality for an amount of

[42:44] $40,000. Information technology and software. So

[42:47] we did some major work last year.

[42:49] If you remember computer science and

[42:50] software, we had an amount that was

[42:52] four times higher than that. So we are back

[42:54] to stability, so we are no

[42:56] longer in the cycle of buying

[42:58] computer equipment that is at the

[43:00] end of its life. So, we're back to something

[43:02] that is more, uh, more

[43:04] normal in that respect. We've done a lot of

[43:05] work, so we're taking the

[43:06] time to assimilate all of this, to

[43:08] make sure we're using each

[43:10] software program to 100%. Uh, otherwise, at

[43:13] our community center, we have to

[43:15] update our PFT on

[43:16] that side. So the center is number 33 on

[43:18] church street. If we have certain

[43:21] work to be done at the town hall,

[43:23] uh, for a value of $16,000 and

[43:26] upgrades to our wells, uh, for

[43:28] a value of $15,000. And uh we

[43:30] are starting a replacement program here

[43:33] actually at the level of the false bournage a

[43:34] replacement program but you

[43:36] will see our pépine in this

[43:39] corner there deposit. So we've reached the

[43:42] suburbs. So there will be work

[43:43] that will have to be done in the

[43:44] coming years to ensure that

[43:47] the hollows, the processes, pardon, are properly

[43:49] excavated and that the water collapse is

[43:51] happening in the right way on that side. And

[43:53] while we're at it, we'll take the opportunity

[43:55] to replace some culverts that are at the

[43:56] end of their lifespan.

[43:58] So we are continuing for 2026 with certain

[44:01] furniture acquisitions for an amount

[44:03] of $12,500. So don't get

[44:05] too attached to the chairs you're

[44:07] sitting on. Several of them are nearing the

[44:08] end of their lifespan. We wonder if you'll

[44:12] be able to stay seated until the end of the evening. So there will

[44:13] be some replacements on that

[44:16] side. Uh, otherwise some purchases in the

[44:19] leisure sector, so for an amount

[44:20] of $1500. Uh, there's a big top that's nearing the

[44:23] end of its life, so we have to

[44:25] replace it for an amount of

[44:27] $20,000. Um, various works at the

[44:30] community center in terms of security.

[44:33] So, uh, the addition of more

[44:35] electronics and some cameras

[44:37] for an amount of $10,000. Uh,

[44:39] acquisitions for the

[44:41] tennis court amounting to $15,000.

[44:43] Uh, the improvements to the

[44:45] pétanque court cost

[44:47] $25,000. So we're talking about two sites

[44:50] and, uh, the issue of diverse terrain.

[44:53] So it's a sum that we're keeping

[44:54] to make certain

[44:56] land acquisitions, uh, if an

[44:58] opportunity arises in that area

[45:00] . So all of this for an amount

[45:04] of $184,000 plus the

[45:08] $4,123,000 that I presented to you in the

[45:10] previous slide, which brings us to

[45:12] $4,307,000 for uh 2026.

[45:17] If we look at 2027, uh an increase

[45:20] in expenses. So rest assured, all of this

[45:22] is linked to certain subsidies. So

[45:26] he has some projects that we're presenting to you

[45:27] today. So if we don't get the

[45:29] subsidies, well, there's a

[45:31] good chance, it will be up to the

[45:32] council to make that decision,

[45:33] but we're not moving forward if we do

[45:35] n't get those subsidies. So I've

[45:37] made a small summary table for you at the end of

[45:38] this section. So if we go at it quickly,

[45:41] well, the reflection on

[45:42] Notredame Street is

[45:44] $5 million in height. Uh, reflection of

[45:46] Campanules Street, so we start there

[45:47] with the plans and estimates, uh, for

[45:49] $20,000. Uh, Pont Antoine Bélanger

[45:52] again, we are in, uh, we are in

[45:56] professional services to support

[45:57] the MTQ in their studies. Otherwise, we have the

[46:00] famous acquisition of the Ballarue that you

[46:02] may have seen in recent

[46:03] years, which we postpone every

[46:05] year. There are some

[46:07] potential subsidies that we can

[46:08] access. So we are waiting to find the right

[46:10] time and the right subsidies to

[46:12] proceed with the work on

[46:16] Eouchette Street, so

[46:18] support work that we need to do at the entrance

[46:20] to the street. Uh, otherwise, continue with the

[46:22] mobility link, so we are claiming that in

[46:25] 2027 we will have the solution, so we can

[46:27] start doing some work.

[46:29] Otherwise, we continue our discussions at the

[46:31] Saint-Nicolas level, still under control. Uh

[46:34] otherwise the question of certain uh

[46:36] fire equipment so it's a

[46:37] recurring issue the bunkers and slimes

[46:39] have a limited lifespan so we

[46:41] have to change them uh on a

[46:43] recurring basis so uh we are returning an

[46:46] investment of $20,000 rather

[46:47] than $42,000 for uh

[46:50] our acquisition in terms of

[46:51] fire equipment. Otherwise, we have our

[46:54] fire engine which is

[46:56] slowly approaching the end of its useful life,

[46:58] so it is over 20 years old. So, we will have to

[47:00] launch

[47:01] professional services to manage all of this.

[47:04] Uh, otherwise, we're talking about a

[47:06] potential redesign of the royal avenue again

[47:08] , depending on the availability of

[47:10] subsidies. Uh, let's finish the

[47:13] planks, okay? Ultimately, the goal

[47:14] is to finish the sheathing before the

[47:17] next characterization for our

[47:19] agreement with Beaupré. So what you need to

[47:21] understand is that the less water loss you have

[47:24] , the better positioned you are for

[47:26] your characterization. So that's why we

[47:28] want to hurry up and do this

[47:30] work. So we are also talking about the

[47:33] plans and estimates for the

[47:34] potential redesign of Franclot Street. And uh,

[47:37] if everything goes as planned at the

[47:39] fire station, then we would have

[47:41] redone the plans and living quarters this year.

[47:44] So we will be there in tender mode

[47:46] for the construction or renovation of

[47:49] the fire station. of course, provided there are

[47:51] subsidies. Uh, we're also talking about

[47:53] continuing the

[47:55] installations, replacing

[47:56] signs for an amount of

[47:57] $10,000, and uh, also IT and

[48:00] software, we'll have a small

[48:01] potential implementation of software

[48:03] at the level of the uh fire. So we have an

[48:06] installation there which costs around

[48:09] $20,000. So we will have to

[48:10] position ourselves for 2027 in that regard. And

[48:13] otherwise, uh, we will then enter the phase of

[48:15] replacing our backhoe.

[48:18] So if we continue for 2027, we

[48:22] also start planning and estimates

[48:24] for the Guilla Street project and we

[48:26] continue our

[48:28] culvert replacements in the northern suburb because it's

[48:30] a 3-year program. So,

[48:33] dig up the ditches, replace the

[48:35] culverts.

[48:37] Otherwise, we also enter into a

[48:39] process of reflection on the coast of the

[48:41] river of rocks. Uh, we're

[48:43] also talking about the purchase of a defibrillator, which is

[48:45] heavily subsidized by the

[48:46] government, and lighting at

[48:50] Sablière Park, so a $20,000 project

[48:52] . And finally, we will

[48:54] look at the

[48:56] potential development of pickleball courts because we

[48:59] know that the use of

[49:00] tennis courts is more than at

[49:03] its full potential. So we are

[49:05] looking at different avenues

[49:07] to perhaps reuse the ice

[49:10] rink which is very close to the

[49:12] barracks to see if we can make

[49:14] pickleball courts in the summer in that place

[49:16] . In short, we are currently

[49:17] analyzing several scenarios. Are these

[49:18] completely

[49:20] separate, completely different plots of land? So that's

[49:22] something that we have

[49:25] on our radar. And for your

[49:26] information, these are the

[49:28] last things that are

[49:29] subsidized. Here, I am talking about

[49:30] lighting and landscaping that

[49:32] can be subsidized by our

[49:33] park and green space fund. So, it's

[49:35] a fund that is financed by

[49:38] the various housing developments, which

[49:40] allows us to use all of that to carry out

[49:42] work on our parks and

[49:44] green spaces.

[49:46] If we look at the

[49:48] 2028 fixed assets, we had

[49:51] started the life plans for

[49:52] the bellflower, so it is in 2028 that we

[49:54] plan to do the reflection. Uh, at the

[49:57] level of the Antoine Bélanger bridge, there, uh, this is

[49:59] a very

[50:00] preliminary amount, but we will have

[50:02] connection work to do there with the

[50:05] city of Beaupré if this agreement

[50:08] materializes. So to make a long story

[50:10] short, the goal is to have a

[50:11] certain form of redundancy, uh, at the

[50:13] water level, right. You know, we've

[50:16] heard a lot about water in

[50:18] recent months, in recent

[50:19] years. We are in a situation that

[50:20] is not problematic, but if

[50:22] something happens, we will have a

[50:24] certain form of redundancy. So

[50:27] the thinking we had was to

[50:29] connect, to make an agreement and to

[50:30] connect at a good price. So if anything

[50:33] happens, at least we

[50:34] know that we are able to supply

[50:36] a good part of the legislative sector of

[50:38] the municipality with reasonably

[50:40] priced water while we are able to

[50:42] make the necessary reflections on

[50:43] our side. So this is a

[50:45] very preliminary amount from that perspective.

[50:47] Everything is yet to be defined, but we still need to

[50:48] keep a buffer in case

[50:50] we decide to move forward with this

[50:51] mitigation strategy. Otherwise, we continue

[50:54] the work there on the

[50:56] active mobility link. So, there's another

[50:57] $200,000 planned from that

[50:59] side. So, we still have

[51:01] acquisitions at the incendiary level. As I was saying

[51:03] , it's something that keeps happening

[51:04] , we have to be on standby.

[51:06] Uh, we have the replacement for the

[51:08] fire engine vehicle. So again, it remains to be

[51:10] seen how all this will settle in over

[51:11] time. But depending on his age

[51:13] , we will have to

[51:16] replace him if we cannot find

[51:18] other solutions. And could this

[51:20] other solution be achieved through

[51:22] various inter-municipal agreements?

[51:23] The answer is yes. So, there is a

[51:25] budget allocated for that. Is there going to be

[51:27] something that

[51:28] happens between now and 208? Probably, but

[51:31] for now this budget is

[51:33] planned. Uh, the reflection on Royal Avenue

[51:36] continues, there are still

[51:37] potential subsidies that we can seek,

[51:39] uh, the reflection on Franclot Street,

[51:42] we had deputized the past life in

[51:44] 2027,

[51:46] reflection on Cavé Street for an

[51:48] amount of $300,000 if we are

[51:50] really talking about the plans and specifications on that

[51:52] side. Otherwise, well, the end of the

[51:56] fire station, so depending on what

[51:58] happens with the

[51:59] fire station, uh, it will be there in the 2nd

[52:02] year of construction and repair.

[52:04] So, there will probably be

[52:05] residual amounts to expect from that

[52:07] side. Otherwise, well, we maintain

[52:10] the facilities and

[52:11] signage, so another $10,000

[52:13] to keep up to date. Information technology and

[52:15] software, we're back to our

[52:17] usual $20,000

[52:19] at the community center level. So

[52:21] the overhaul will come, the

[52:22] urban planning overhaul plan will help us

[52:24] in all of this to position ourselves, to know what we

[52:26] do with our

[52:27] community centre. So is it a

[52:29] renovation of the 33, is it a

[52:31] move, so with the

[52:35] professional services that we will have done in 2026,

[52:38] we will have a good idea. Then the goal

[52:39] wasn't to put everything in at the same

[52:40] time. We're talking about a barracks, so it's

[52:42] already something, even if it's

[52:44] subsidized, which is a financial burden

[52:46] for the municipality. So we're looking further ahead

[52:48] in time at the

[52:50] community centre and in fact, you know what we

[52:53] need to plan for is that

[52:56] if we move towards a

[52:58] potential relocation of the fire station,

[53:00] it will create a potential space to

[53:03] move a community centre. So that's what needs to be

[53:05] expected. It's a

[53:06] very big game of cat and mouse and

[53:09] through all of this, well we have

[53:11] consultations, we have a refounding which will

[53:12] allow us to better position ourselves and

[53:14] then it will be up to the elected officials to make the

[53:16] decisions on that side for the future

[53:18] of our community centre and

[53:19] our box. Otherwise, well, we have the

[53:21] reflection of rue Guillaot, you

[53:23] remember in 2027, we made, we will have made

[53:25] plans and life. So that will be

[53:27] the reflection in 2028. Otherwise, we are starting

[53:30] the reflection on the island street. Uh

[53:32] so these will be the plans and specifications for

[53:34] 2028 and we continue there this will be the

[53:37] last year of our

[53:38] replacement plan for the culverts uh in the

[53:40] northern suburb uh so another 60,000

[53:42] dollars and uh we had started in 2027

[53:45] the plans and specifications for the reflection of

[53:47] the river of rocks shore. So,

[53:49] uh, it will be there in 2028 that these

[53:53] works are planned. So, to

[53:54] summarize, what does that tell us

[53:56] ? Because that's a lot of

[53:58] projects, then a lot of

[53:59] money, and a lot of years. We do that

[54:00] , we look at that in a

[54:03] summary table. So if we look at the totals

[54:05] to start with, so if we look at

[54:07] year 26, we are at

[54:09] investments of $4,307,000. So

[54:12] the amount in bold at the bottom. For 2027, we

[54:14] are at 11,567,500

[54:18] and in 2028 1,210,000

[54:22] for a total over 3 years of 27,984,500.

[54:28] So, what I have proposed here,

[54:30] what I have proposed to the council, is in

[54:32] fact an estimate because not

[54:34] everything is the responsibility of the

[54:36] municipality. So, at the 2026 level,

[54:39] we have loan settlements. So these

[54:41] loan regulations are really

[54:43] what we borrow and what is

[54:44] borne by the taxpayers. So, an

[54:46] estimate of $217,000 for

[54:49] projected subsidies of

[54:52] $2,100,000, a use of

[54:54] working capital of $60,000 and a

[54:56] use of the park and green space fund of

[54:59] $40,000. For

[55:01] the year 2027, uh, again, the projected amount is

[55:11] $4,476,000 in loan repayments to be borne by taxpayers, $6,714,000 in projected subsidies,

[55:15] $

[55:17] 207,500 in working capital,

[55:20] and $170,000 in the green space fund. And for

[55:23] 2028, again, the projected amount for

[55:27] taxpayer repayments is $4,828,000, with

[55:31] projected subsidies of $724,000,

[55:36] $40,000 in working capital, and

[55:40] no use of the green space fund

[55:42] projected for 2028.

[55:45] So, Madam, that concludes

[55:46] the presentation.

[55:51] Thank you so much.

[55:53] Therefore, for point 4, the

[55:56] municipal council adopts the three-year

[55:58] capital investment program for 2026, 2027 and 2028 as

[56:02] presented and therefore provides for

[56:04] total investments of

[56:08] $27,984,500. I will take a proposal,

[56:12] thank you.

[56:15] Point 5

[56:17] tax rates 2026 that the

[56:20] municipal council sets the property tax rates

[56:22] for the year 2026 as follows.

[56:26] So, rates per 100 dollars of assessment,

[56:28] residual property tax rate at 49.8

[56:32] sub, non-residential property tax rate

[56:35] at 88.3 sub,

[56:39] agricultural property tax rate at 49.8 sub,

[56:43] industrial property tax rate at 88.3 sub,

[56:47] vacant land tax rate at

[56:51] 80 sub, sorry, 80 sub.

[56:55] I take a proposer,

[56:57] Simon R, proposes,

[56:58] thank you, item 6, adoption of by-law

[57:02] 26-912

[57:03] amending by-law 18-746

[57:06] concerning waste management, that the

[57:09] municipal council adopts by-law

[57:11] number 26-912

[57:13] amending by-law number 18-746

[57:17] concerning waste management. These

[57:19] regulations form an integral part of this

[57:21] document as if they were transcribed

[57:23] in full. I'm going to take a proposal.

[57:25] Laclair makes a suggestion.

[57:26] Thank you, Mr. Leclaire. Item 7,

[57:28] adoption of Regulation 26-913

[57:31] amending Regulation 94-315

[57:34] establishing a compensation tariff

[57:36] for ACEDuc and sewer services.

[57:39] That the municipal council adopt by-

[57:41] law number 26913 amending by-

[57:44] law number 94-315

[57:47] amending a compensation rate for

[57:50] water and sewer services. These

[57:52] regulations form an integral part of this

[57:54] document as if they were transcribed

[57:55] in full. I'll take the offeror.

[57:57] Anthony,

[57:58] thank you. This brings us to point

[58:01] 8, the question period. So if you

[58:03] have any questions, please come to the

[58:05] microphone and introduce yourself. So any

[58:07] questions about what has just been

[58:09] presented tonight will be welcome from the

[58:17] red team. The

[58:22] accounting system there is a little bit

[58:24] weakened.

[58:26] I don't see any depreciation in your

[58:28] expenses

[58:29] . Yes, that's

[58:33] $921,000.

[58:35] OK.

[58:37] Go ahead sir.

[58:38] Yes, they are there, they are worth

[58:41] $1,921,000. It was named by the mass

[58:43] during the adoption of the resolution.

[58:46] right, there are borrowing costs,

[58:51] there is amortization.

[58:53] I don't know what you're

[58:54] reimbursing with [clears throat] what is it

[58:56] and depreciation

[58:59] is the same? I'm going to give

[59:00] the microphone back to the gentleman for the

[59:02] technical details because I'm not

[59:03] sure I understood your question,

[59:04] Mr. Coutur, about

[59:06] loan fees.

[59:08] Yes.

[59:09] Tuas of the depreciation. Yes.

[59:14] Is that included in 1

[59:17] uh you know at the level of the

[59:20] presentation we do, we take the

[59:22] expenses, we add the depreciation,

[59:24] so that makes our accounting surplus,

[59:26] so our income minus our expenses. Here,

[59:28] depreciation is included and from there,

[59:30] we make our adjustments to

[59:32] determine the tax surplus. So

[59:35] we add our payment to our

[59:39] long-term debt. We first

[59:42] deduct the depreciation, then we

[59:43] make adjustments to

[59:44] our various funds, and that's where we

[59:46] determine the tax surplus. What

[59:48] the municipality, pardon the MCH, is

[59:50] asking us is that the

[59:53] tax surplus balances, so we must reach

[59:55] zero. So what we do at the

[59:59] accountant's level is we take and

[1:00:01] consider the 1921000 which is

[1:00:03] the depreciation as an expense. So

[1:00:05] we determine our

[1:00:06] accounting surplus and from there we

[1:00:08] adjust everything fiscally so that

[1:00:10] the tax surplus reaches zero. So what we

[1:00:12] presented to you today is

[1:00:14] a tax surplus that reaches zero.

[1:00:17] 2nd question on the amortization

[1:00:21] Saint-Nicolas

[1:00:23] we redid it we are redoing it because we

[1:00:26] amortize over a period of 40 years by

[1:00:28] redoing it every 20 years

[1:00:33] in fact it is an excellent question the

[1:00:36] government through the

[1:00:38] treasury board dictates to us the

[1:00:41] amortizations that we must

[1:00:43] put on certain

[1:00:45] no in fact I think I am not

[1:00:47] certain, I think it is 15 years in terms

[1:00:48] of asphalt. So that's really where it is

[1:00:51] , it's not up to us to decide that. It is

[1:00:52] really dictated there by the

[1:00:55] Treasury Board and even at the level of

[1:00:56] borrowing regulations. It's not us who decide what

[1:00:59] length, what pattern, what

[1:01:05] length I see.

[1:01:06] Yes. What length, what period,

[1:01:07] thank you, how much time do we put in?

[1:01:10] is really said by the

[1:01:11] Treasury Board on that side and to my

[1:01:13] knowledge, I haven't done it there, I haven't

[1:01:14] looked at all the borrowing regulations

[1:01:16] that are in force to know if there are

[1:01:18] still borrowing regulations that are

[1:01:19] on the Saint-Nicolas rent, I

[1:01:22] would have to validate, I could get back to you

[1:01:23] but I don't believe to my

[1:01:24] knowledge that we have as soon as we are

[1:01:26] still paying for

[1:01:27] something that we are going to create a good ball as

[1:01:30] we call it a

[1:01:35] decrease in

[1:01:37] amortization because we are

[1:01:40] forced to redo it faster given that we were doing it

[1:01:42] less well. It's

[1:01:45] not certain that in a context it's

[1:01:47] less well done, we can create that

[1:01:49] situation. I can do the

[1:01:50] validation there, to my knowledge the

[1:01:52] answer is no, but it's worth

[1:01:54] taking a little look at

[1:01:55] that side to make sure we're

[1:01:57] not creating a bubble.

[1:02:00] THANKS.

[1:02:09] Robert Pilote, Rue de la Butte.

[1:02:10] Good evening.

[1:02:11] Um, regarding leisure activities, the

[1:02:15] swimming pool file, is there...

[1:02:18] I don't know if there's an agreement, are there any

[1:02:19] provisions?

[1:02:21] Can you give us a quick

[1:02:23] update? Is there anything

[1:02:26] in the budget for that?

[1:02:28] Indeed, you had a good eye. No,

[1:02:30] the council decided not to allocate any

[1:02:32] money for the swimming pool project in the

[1:02:35] budget. So it was a choice precisely

[1:02:39] considering everything that

[1:02:41] was presented to you, the increase in

[1:02:44] all expenses everywhere,

[1:02:46] all that. So that's it for now

[1:02:50] . I didn't put any

[1:02:52] money in your pocket, but what motivates this is whether

[1:02:55] the requests for high prices are

[1:02:58] considered excessive compared to what

[1:03:01] the

[1:03:04] proportional use of Saintféréol would be in

[1:03:06] relation to price and other factors? Well, you

[1:03:09] know, I think there's a

[1:03:10] subjective part to it in

[1:03:12] the sense that, as you know

[1:03:14] , we've been trying

[1:03:15] to reach an agreement with the

[1:03:17] pool for several years. Then, uh, you know, just recently, right

[1:03:20] before the holidays,

[1:03:23] anyway, I see, right before the holidays, we,

[1:03:26] the participating municipalities, met to

[1:03:28] see if there was anything we could agree on

[1:03:33] . Then the offer that was on

[1:03:36] the table, well for us, it was

[1:03:38] still too high compared to the

[1:03:40] amount we

[1:03:43] wanted to put into this

[1:03:45] project. We never hid anything at the

[1:03:46] municipal level, did we? We

[1:03:48] would always have liked to be able to be a

[1:03:51] paying user, in our opinion.

[1:03:54] Paying user equals one shell part

[1:03:57] plus a price at the door. Uh, but that's not quite right, it's that we have

[1:04:03] the deficit based on

[1:04:05] land values. Probably that's it

[1:04:07] indeed.

[1:04:08] Well, it's

[1:04:10] not always easy at your

[1:04:12] prices. Um, one question:

[1:04:15] transfer taxes still bring in quite a lot of

[1:04:17] money

[1:04:18] legally because we know that

[1:04:21] the population is aging. I just read

[1:04:23] an article where people say the house is

[1:04:25] big, it's a lot of maintenance, I

[1:04:27] want to go smaller. If someone with a

[1:04:30] lower property value wants to

[1:04:32] relocate to a smaller property, do they

[1:04:35] pay a transfer tax equal to

[1:04:39] the value of the new

[1:04:40] property,

[1:04:42] or do they

[1:04:46] not pay it if the property value decreases? Do

[1:04:47] you have the option of doing

[1:04:48] something like that? Would the

[1:04:50] law allow it? Perhaps something

[1:04:52] to consider because

[1:04:54] people look at it and then say, well, the

[1:04:56] house and the land, or it's this, it's that, we're

[1:04:58] years old, we'd rather

[1:05:00] rent, we know there are

[1:05:02] rental projects coming up

[1:05:04] that could be

[1:05:05] interesting, well, maybe that will be

[1:05:07] a motivation for those people who have

[1:05:09] adopted Saintol to stay in Saintol.

[1:05:11] For my part,

[1:05:13] I've already read something related

[1:05:15] to this, but I don't have the answer to

[1:05:17] your question. I'm not knowledgeable enough,

[1:05:20] I mean, on this subject.

[1:05:21] Perhaps, sir, I don't know if

[1:05:23] you... Firstly, I'm not

[1:05:25] sure I understand the question.

[1:05:28] I have a property worth millions, too

[1:05:30] big. I'm going to get something smaller,

[1:05:33] but I'd like to invest in Saintol.

[1:05:35] I'm selling my house and then buying a smaller one

[1:05:37] . Yes,

[1:05:38] but if I pay the transfer tax

[1:05:40] on the smaller one, I've already paid my

[1:05:43] taxes, my welcome fees, these

[1:05:46] things. Tell me, is there anything

[1:05:49] that would be possible by law

[1:05:51] for someone who is already a resident? You

[1:05:53] understand that if I buy something

[1:05:55] that is more expensive, well, at least I'm paying on

[1:05:57] the difference rather than on the full

[1:05:59] amount. Just to be clear, the

[1:06:00] welcome tax and then the transfer tax

[1:06:02] are the same thing. He already has a tax at

[1:06:05] my age, sometimes we do it, it's

[1:06:08] an excellent question.

[1:06:10] What I understand is that at the

[1:06:11] age level, if it's possible to make a

[1:06:14] program because what is possible,

[1:06:16] for example, is to be able to

[1:06:18] pay the transfer taxes in several installments

[1:06:20] . So that's something

[1:06:22] that uh I presented to the old

[1:06:25] council and I'm going to bring it up again

[1:06:27] with the new council because I

[1:06:28] think it's something

[1:06:30] interesting but to be able to

[1:06:32] legislate for an age group I don't

[1:06:37] know if it's not

[1:06:39] even if it's not a group of just the

[1:06:40] fact of having it's just the fact of

[1:06:42] prolocating an

[1:06:43] OK just to someone who would have a

[1:06:44] bigger house that has

[1:06:47] characters

[1:06:48] excuse me jeiqué on the not the

[1:06:51] [laughs]

[1:06:51] the question

[1:06:53] uh but we can look at it. I don't know what

[1:06:56] is

[1:06:57] legally possible.

[1:06:58] No, that's it.

[1:07:07] Uh, wastewater

[1:07:09] treatment plant.

[1:07:12] Uh, we're talking about core strengthening. There, there was

[1:07:15] an amount of 2 million in 2026.

[1:07:21] 900000 in 2027

[1:07:24] the sheathing.

[1:07:26] Uh, if I remember correctly the

[1:07:29] billing method there, the code is part of the

[1:07:32] municipality based on the volume

[1:07:35] that is sent, the water and the

[1:07:38] suspended solids.

[1:07:40] We faced some very big challenges with that.

[1:07:42] I believe we have already paid

[1:07:44] millions too much. We've proven it all in

[1:07:46] this case. So, during the

[1:07:49] characterizations, it's

[1:07:52] more about age in a period where

[1:07:54] it has become more focused, it's nonsense, so now

[1:07:58] I'm asking myself

[1:08:00] when the next characterization is and what we are

[1:08:03] putting in place to

[1:08:04] ensure that it will be done according to the

[1:08:06] rules of the art so that we don't get taken for a ride again,

[1:08:10] if you'll allow me

[1:08:11] the expression,

[1:08:13] the exact date I will let the gentleman

[1:08:15] answer later. But what

[1:08:17] I can tell you is that I know that there are

[1:08:19] now some of our

[1:08:22] employees who go on site also

[1:08:24] during the characterization.

[1:08:27] So what are we putting in place,

[1:08:29] among other things? That's what having a

[1:08:30] form of double verification is like, if I

[1:08:32] may say so.

[1:08:33] I think that's the

[1:08:37] one who manages the contract, it's Beaupré.

[1:08:40] They're not there, or almost not. He

[1:08:43] gives a contract. We had major discussions

[1:08:45] about what the methods should be

[1:08:47] . We explained everything to them

[1:08:50] and finally we had won the point

[1:08:52] that it was going to be done that way. And

[1:08:54] even then, the people who came to do it

[1:08:57] weren't of the highest caliber.

[1:09:00] So the way it was done meant that we

[1:09:02] could still argue about the

[1:09:05] quality of the results.

[1:09:09] I think sir, I think sir, there are

[1:09:10] more details there considering that it is quite

[1:09:12] technical. I'll let him

[1:09:13] complete the answer.

[1:09:17] Uh, 2028, for your information. So that's why

[1:09:19] the next characterization

[1:09:22] will take place in 2028. So that leaves us

[1:09:24] 2026 and 2027 to prepare. So from

[1:09:28] there the sheathing work uh in the

[1:09:30] PTI uh we already have for your information we

[1:09:34] already have small contracts that have been

[1:09:36] given for the treatment plant for

[1:09:38] other files and we have asked to be involved

[1:09:41] . So what was happening, what we

[1:09:42] realized, was that we

[1:09:44] weren't even there since the client

[1:09:45] wasn't inferior to the snow.

[1:09:47] We weren't even invited to the meetings,

[1:09:49] we weren't even informed. So since

[1:09:52] then, I've been here for a year now

[1:09:54] , I've had the chance to have all the

[1:09:56] mandates that were given, either me or

[1:09:58] a representative of the municipality

[1:10:00] was around the table so I could

[1:10:02] intervene. So I

[1:10:04] expect it to be the same

[1:10:06] in terms of characterizations. If we are going to

[1:10:07] name him, then we have always had

[1:10:09] collaboration, at least I have for the past year, and

[1:10:11] since I have been asking for it, there are

[1:10:13] stakeholders who have changed on the

[1:10:15] other side. I can't say because

[1:10:16] I've only been

[1:10:18] interacting there for a year. But, you know,

[1:10:20] basically our request and the openness we've had so far

[1:10:22] is to be involved,

[1:10:23] to have our say

[1:10:25] . So, uh, that's what we're going to

[1:10:28] continue to do in terms of

[1:10:29] characterizations on that side. So there's a reason we're

[1:10:31] preparing. We

[1:10:34] know that it is also the way the contract

[1:10:36] was structured that allows the residual to be

[1:10:39] paid at a good price. It's something we

[1:10:41] look at and then challenge as well

[1:10:43] . So right now, I would say

[1:10:45] that everything is on the table for

[1:10:48] the wastewater treatment plant, even seeing if we

[1:10:49] could reopen the contract there

[1:10:51] and try to come and

[1:10:53] update it because it's been a while since

[1:10:55] this control has been running.

[1:10:57] So we are here because it is certain that when

[1:11:00] the factory was built, there were

[1:11:02] assessments and we were

[1:11:04] very low on what was

[1:11:08] undervalued

[1:11:09] and undervalued. On the other hand, when

[1:11:11] you look at how the

[1:11:13] characterization was done, it was quite pointed out

[1:11:15] that maybe it wasn't that

[1:11:17] different after all. But here, if we do

[1:11:18] a good characterization,

[1:11:21] we know I don't have a problem. Do we

[1:11:22] pay for what we use, and if there have been

[1:11:25] things over time that

[1:11:27] need correcting, I have no problem with

[1:11:29] the municipality being a good

[1:11:31] partner in that. But I think it's

[1:11:33] important because we're talking about

[1:11:35] 3 million for the core strengthening. Pledge. Uh, that's

[1:11:39] for the waters that fit into the

[1:11:42] taste system. I think 25

[1:11:46] % of the bill is for the volume

[1:11:48] of water and the rest is for

[1:11:49] suspended solids. At this point I'm thinking, 25% or we put

[1:11:53] 3 million for the 75%, what are we

[1:11:57] doing to make sure we're not on

[1:12:00] a sham?

[1:12:00] The insulation work is

[1:12:02] eligible for subsidies up to an average height of

[1:12:04] 80%. On that side, the cost price is

[1:12:06] not 2.9 million, I

[1:12:08] assure you. And what also needs to be taken

[1:12:10] into consideration is where there are

[1:12:12] water leaks, but there are also

[1:12:13] sand leaks, of other materials that

[1:12:17] collect in the network and

[1:12:19] impact the data as well.

[1:12:21] OK. Yeah, I understand that. But I must

[1:12:23] reiterate that

[1:12:25] you will need to follow the keying process very, very

[1:12:27] closely.

[1:12:28] Thank you, sir pilot. Ah,

[1:12:29] I'm not finished.

[1:12:29] I'm going to... There are other people who do it,

[1:12:31] if that doesn't bother you. I was on a

[1:12:33] roll with

[1:12:35] all the questions for

[1:12:37] Merci.

[1:12:39] Yes, good evening Anne, Coubertin's laughter.

[1:12:43] Okay, I have a few questions.

[1:12:47] Uh, question

[1:12:49] 1.

[1:12:51] When you talk about PTI in the immobilis

[1:12:54] , the link between active immobility and

[1:12:57] village heart, what is it or

[1:12:59] just? Actually, uh, I don't know if you

[1:13:00] remember, but in

[1:13:02] recent years, we've talked about

[1:13:04] showing interest in having a sidewalk in

[1:13:07] the village. Then, uh, in parallel with that,

[1:13:10] the government announced a

[1:13:13] green route project, a

[1:13:15] multi-functional style road that would connect the

[1:13:18] national capital to Saint-Siméon. So,

[1:13:21] when we found out about that, well,

[1:13:23] our project was put on hold for the

[1:13:27] final part of this road trip. Then we said to ourselves,

[1:13:29] but if he goes through the royal avenue,

[1:13:32] we for example have already made a

[1:13:33] sidewalk and there for them for example it is

[1:13:35] a multi-functional track we did

[1:13:37] not want to have to undo what we have just

[1:13:39] done. So we're actually waiting for the

[1:13:42] final plans from their end. Then, I'm

[1:13:45] going a bit far here, but possibly if,

[1:13:47] for example, it's a

[1:13:48] multifunctional link or something, we could

[1:13:51] perhaps look into a

[1:13:52] form of partnership with them, you know, either

[1:13:54] a grant or something so

[1:13:56] that it could also benefit us.

[1:13:58] The fact is that basically this amount is

[1:14:00] at the level of the study there if you

[1:14:02] want there for this project

[1:14:04] for the study sidewalks for the

[1:14:05] sidewalks

[1:14:06] and or as I tell you

[1:14:08] multifunctional track according to the route also

[1:14:10] of the green road.

[1:14:12] Uh, OK. Speaking of all that, let's

[1:14:14] put the backs of the weapons there, which

[1:14:16] you told me might be going

[1:14:19] forward. Were they

[1:14:21] described in the PTI? I didn't notice.

[1:14:24] No, not like that. You wanted

[1:14:27] the amounts to have been allocated directly

[1:14:29] in the operating budget on that

[1:14:31] side. So yes, there will be a

[1:14:33] presentation to be made to the council

[1:14:35] regarding the management, I mean, of

[1:14:38] the speed and the development there of the

[1:14:41] village. So it's something that will

[1:14:43] come from that direction. I'm taking it in my hand at the

[1:14:44] same time.

[1:14:45] Yeah, [laughs]

[1:14:47] that's it. We had

[1:14:49] talked, but you know, I thought

[1:14:51] you forgot to mention if we had said it there

[1:14:52] literally there. No, you didn't miss it

[1:14:54] . It wasn't written, it didn't exist

[1:14:56] . symbol. Uh, my second question is,

[1:14:59] when you talk about the

[1:15:01] percentage of remuneration, you

[1:15:03] presented a nice graph and all that, and

[1:15:06] then Saintféréol, well you say that it is

[1:15:08] positioned well there compared to

[1:15:11] other municipalities. I would like to point out

[1:15:13] one thing to you, uh, the number of

[1:15:15] managers, the number of managerial staff

[1:15:17] in Saintfériol, it is quite high,

[1:15:20] it is very high compared to other

[1:15:22] municipalities. I calculated this earlier

[1:15:25] during the presentation in Saintféol,

[1:15:27] it's 30% of employees, in

[1:15:30] Chaicher it's 13%, in Bois Châtel

[1:15:34] it's 20%, in Beauprice it's 15%. Can

[1:15:37] I know why there are so many

[1:15:38] managers in the staff

[1:15:41] at the municipality?

[1:15:42] I want to tell you that I think it also depends on,

[1:15:44] I'll say, the

[1:15:46] title. If I give you an example in

[1:15:48] communications, the

[1:15:49] communications coordinator, well, she doesn't have

[1:15:52] anyone under her, but she

[1:15:55] is considered a manager. It

[1:15:57] reports directly to the

[1:15:59] general management. Uh, she's not the

[1:16:02] manager, she's not someone who's going to be

[1:16:04] in the union either. You know, that

[1:16:07] function in the organizational chart, we,

[1:16:09] for example, have placed it like this.

[1:16:11] is an example I'm giving you right now

[1:16:12] . We have, I don't know if you

[1:16:14] saw this go by, but we have

[1:16:16] a new coordinator

[1:16:19] for urban planning. Well, Martin

[1:16:22] Robichot, who is the director,

[1:16:24] has been more involved in the role of

[1:16:27] project manager. So, these are

[1:16:28] positions that are not unionized, uh, that's it

[1:16:33] , sometimes they will have

[1:16:34] employees under them, sometimes not. But you

[1:16:36] know, I would say that it's not bad,

[1:16:38] I think, in terms of the organization,

[1:16:40] strategically it was

[1:16:42] built like that, if you will. I don't know

[1:16:44] if the gentleman wants to address this with you

[1:16:46] .

[1:16:46] It's as if there's more ch than

[1:16:48] ien there, it makes for a very

[1:16:50] high-quality rat.

[1:16:51] In fact, it's important not to

[1:16:52] confuse these non-unionized staff members

[1:16:54] . So, uh, we have certain frameworks.

[1:16:57] Yes. Then they are all part

[1:16:58] of the same collection. So all

[1:17:01] their working conditions are under the

[1:17:03] same, uh, under the same collection. But we

[1:17:06] have many non-

[1:17:08] unionized employees who are in this position because

[1:17:10] they have access to

[1:17:11] privileged information but who do not

[1:17:14] necessarily have employees under their command.

[1:17:17] Well, uh, I also had a

[1:17:19] suggestion to make regarding this for

[1:17:21] the employees. Well, I don't have in the PTI

[1:17:23] uh you often refer to

[1:17:26] studies there to do work. Well, these are

[1:17:28] studies by

[1:17:29] engineering firms, I imagine. Yeah. Um,

[1:17:32] I know someone in my

[1:17:33] circle who is a civil engineer for

[1:17:36] municipalities in Quebec. Then, uh,

[1:17:39] in some municipalities, they

[1:17:41] actually hire engineers.

[1:17:44] Because when you do it with a

[1:17:46] firm, the firm is looking at 2.5 times

[1:17:49] what it costs, you know, when we talk

[1:17:52] about feasibility studies,

[1:17:54] profitability, it could be very

[1:17:56] profitable to have an engineer

[1:17:58] working for you who could

[1:17:59] be shared with another municipality.

[1:18:01] Indeed, sharing like that

[1:18:03] is something that had already been

[1:18:05] discussed at the MRC level,

[1:18:08] sharing of professionals like that, but frankly

[1:18:10] , I think it didn't go beyond that

[1:18:11] level of

[1:18:13] discussion. Yes, yes, it is

[1:18:14] relevant madam

[1:18:16] because there are many things,

[1:18:17] infrastructure management,

[1:18:19] intervention plans as well, to the management

[1:18:22] of government subsidies.

[1:18:24] It's very complicated. That's what

[1:18:25] the engineer was telling me. Then at some point

[1:18:27] , you need people who know about

[1:18:28] this. That's very profitable.

[1:18:31] and I'm noting it down to restart the

[1:18:34] discussion. You'll pay

[1:18:37] your engineering brothers for this quickly.

[1:18:41] Another question,

[1:18:44] I'll leave that one to you and

[1:18:45] then we'll give the floor to

[1:18:46] someone else.

[1:18:47] When you say the codes are part of

[1:18:50] the bill, we receive it, we don't have a word to

[1:18:52] say, we pay it. Personally, I think it's

[1:18:55] the bad payers, those

[1:18:57] who don't pay and those who pay too

[1:18:58] quickly. Um, I would like to

[1:19:01] tell you that the codes are open to

[1:19:04] discussion, I think. This has been

[1:19:06] proven by former Laurette and then

[1:19:08] Saint-Augustin Démor in relation to

[1:19:09] Quebec there. Uh, but what I've

[1:19:12] noticed is that this is the cost

[1:19:15] increase, the factory, the

[1:19:18] filtration factory, the factory, good price, it's

[1:19:20] very high. So why exactly,

[1:19:24] sir? Yeah, but as we

[1:19:26] explained earlier, uh,

[1:19:29] understood.

[1:19:29] Yes, in fact we have an

[1:19:32] agreement and every 3 years we have to do

[1:19:34] a characterization. So, we actually measure

[1:19:37] the sediments that

[1:19:40] pass through the pipes and it is

[1:19:42] on this charge that we

[1:19:44] are charged. I'm simplifying all of this

[1:19:46] here. It's because I'm being looked at and

[1:19:47] thinking that maybe I'm

[1:19:49] simplifying a little too much here, it's 5

[1:19:51] years and in fact it's done from

[1:19:53] this characterization the way it's

[1:19:55] done is that all the

[1:19:57] municipalities are able to make

[1:19:59] this measurement and beautiful price pays the

[1:20:01] residual of all this so if it's 100%

[1:20:04] but Saintériol pays 25 Saint-Joischin

[1:20:07] pays 25 uh

[1:20:09] in the end it's beautiful pays 25 and

[1:20:14] beautiful pays the residual so that's how

[1:20:16] it works. So it's certain that in

[1:20:17] terms of characterizations, as we were

[1:20:19] mentioning, we have

[1:20:20] certain small elements in the

[1:20:22] municipality, we have worked in

[1:20:23] recent years to correct

[1:20:26] everything and we continue to do so. But the key

[1:20:28] to war is really

[1:20:30] characterization because that's what

[1:20:31] impacts us. I said 3 years, but it's

[1:20:33] for 5 years. Thank you, sir. Uh, and that's where we

[1:20:35] need to make sure that the

[1:20:37] characterization is as accurate as

[1:20:39] possible for our municipality to

[1:20:41] ensure that it really represents the

[1:20:44] sediments that pass through the pipes,

[1:20:46] the sediments that are

[1:20:48] treated at the city of Beaupré, which is

[1:20:50] charged by Beaupré for use

[1:20:52] in the lower part. That's it. That's

[1:20:54] it. framed by an agreement, as we were

[1:20:56] saying earlier, it is negotiable on the

[1:20:57] part of the codes. I'll answer

[1:21:00] that I don't disagree, but

[1:21:01] all of this is by agreement, you know. So if

[1:21:04] an agreement states that we pay based on the

[1:21:06] land value, then our land value has

[1:21:07] increased. The SQ is a

[1:21:11] good example of this. So, the French are increasing

[1:21:14] our share at the SQ, but you have to

[1:21:16] be a little bit combative, a little bit

[1:21:18] there to, uh, so that we

[1:21:19] could try to negotiate this, but

[1:21:21] some, like with the SQ, you have to get up,

[1:21:23] happiness, well,

[1:21:24] in any case, it takes people,

[1:21:25] maybe an engineer, that could

[1:21:27] help you in this direction,

[1:21:28] me, but just the most mobile,

[1:21:30] the increase is quite astronomical, that's why,

[1:21:34] exactly, because

[1:21:36] I see this little bus passing through my neighborhood and

[1:21:37] I don't see

[1:21:40] many people on it. So this is a

[1:21:42] pilot project that Saintéréol and Beaupré

[1:21:45] have decided to implement. So,

[1:21:48] to offer a weekend service, initially

[1:21:54] teenagers were the target audience, but we

[1:21:56] quickly realized that it could also be of

[1:21:57] use to the

[1:21:59] elderly. So you know, as you know,

[1:22:01] public transport is not

[1:22:02] served on the Beaua coast, the most

[1:22:05] basic mobile option is the one that goes directly to

[1:22:08] Quebec City. So we wanted to see

[1:22:10] if this could meet

[1:22:12] a need. So it's on Friday evenings

[1:22:14] between 4:30pm and 10pm. Saturday and Sunday

[1:22:17] between 7am and 10pm. It's

[1:22:20] a loop. There are approximately 11 or 12

[1:22:22] stops in Saintriol

[1:22:25] in Beaupré and then there are two stops in

[1:22:27] Saint-Angré there. So, to take

[1:22:29] people there to the participating shops.

[1:22:32] So we did this first

[1:22:34] pilot project from September to

[1:22:36] December. Then the council, we said to ourselves,

[1:22:38] well if we stop it now, we wo

[1:22:41] n't have the portrait of the year to see if it

[1:22:44] actually meets

[1:22:45] a need. So we've set ourselves the challenge

[1:22:48] of relaunching it this year. Beaupré was

[1:22:51] also there and agreed to continue.

[1:22:54] So I would say that at the end of the

[1:22:55] year, we will see if it actually

[1:22:57] meets a need. For now, what

[1:22:59] I can tell you is that the

[1:23:00] numbers are constantly increasing

[1:23:03] every month. So, you know, it

[1:23:05] deserves to be better known. Uh, and that's it.

[1:23:07] We'll see what happens next. Indeed, we

[1:23:09] know that, public transport, I'm not

[1:23:10] telling you anything new here, is not something

[1:23:12] profitable, it's a service to

[1:23:15] citizens. So, we make the choice to

[1:23:17] say, well, we are on a

[1:23:20] longitudinal territory.

[1:23:23] THANKS.

[1:23:24] So we thought, well, why not, try and see if it can

[1:23:29] meet a need. So that's why,

[1:23:31] yes, it goes from a small amount

[1:23:34] to a very large one, and the balance sheet will be done

[1:23:36] at the end of this year.

[1:23:38] Yes.

[1:23:39] It would be at the end of the year, actually it would

[1:23:41] be.

[1:23:42] Yeah, but the end of the year would actually be

[1:23:44] like

[1:23:44] this.

[1:23:46] Yes, that's true. It's for the

[1:23:47] whole year. That's it. Yes.

[1:23:49] The year this year, end of 2026. OK.

[1:23:53] THANKS.

[1:23:58] Hello, I've been on

[1:24:01] Nagano Street for two and a half years now, there's a

[1:24:03] little miss who comes from Mont

[1:24:05] Saintler, so

[1:24:06] it makes me happy,

[1:24:07] my daughter is here. So look, with

[1:24:10] the environment I'm very satisfied,

[1:24:12] uh, just disappointed with the budgets.

[1:24:16] So I worked for 10 years in

[1:24:17] municipalities as head of

[1:24:18] cultural division and then as director of

[1:24:21] leisure. So I don't know those figures either,

[1:24:24] in sanitation

[1:24:26] or in water. It's especially when we

[1:24:28] lose water that it costs

[1:24:30] a municipality a lot of money. The fact that I

[1:24:31] understood this is a new term.

[1:24:34] The population of what I know there seems to be

[1:24:36] 3300. I thought, OK,

[1:24:38] we've reached 405,

[1:24:42] my god. Sometime between last year or

[1:24:44] 2023 in any case. OK, perfect. We've

[1:24:46] reached 4000. OK. I was the

[1:24:48] recreation director for the municipality of

[1:24:50] McMasterville, which is next to Bœil, and it had

[1:24:52] 5500 residents at the time.

[1:24:56] Um, what is the increase this

[1:24:59] year? The increase in spending

[1:25:01] there is 9%. Got it. OK. The cost of

[1:25:05] living is OK.

[1:25:07] 2.4. Well, it's

[1:25:08] because the city of

[1:25:09] Quebec, unless other miners there,

[1:25:11] but I got that from the newspaper. There can

[1:25:12] always be an error, but between 2,

[1:25:14] then 3, then 9 there is still a

[1:25:15] big difference. What is

[1:25:17] the increase this year in the

[1:25:20] budget compared to

[1:25:23] last year? What is

[1:25:24] the increase in

[1:25:25] property tax? They do

[1:25:28] n't understand my question either. I'll

[1:25:29] let the gentleman figure it out. Your

[1:25:32] examples were based on 365,000. You

[1:25:34] lowered that, good, I understood everything about the

[1:25:36] average increase in the tax fund.

[1:25:38] That's 5%.

[1:25:39] THANKS. Last year

[1:25:41] it was 10 points something.

[1:25:42] Last year, 3.2,

[1:25:45] we had 10%. There are some who had

[1:25:47] 3.2 last year,

[1:25:49] well there was a 10% where it was at the

[1:25:51] level of expenses which were 10%. We

[1:25:53] shouldn't associate increased

[1:25:54] spending with increased

[1:25:56] tax rates. OK.

[1:25:57] Um, what is the

[1:26:00] average income of people here? I do

[1:26:03] n't have that information, madam.

[1:26:04] But it would be important because we

[1:26:06] understand each other among the people who live,

[1:26:08] I think, a little bit higher up.

[1:26:09] Me too.

[1:26:11] With the lower level of

[1:26:13] resorts near Mont Saint, there's

[1:26:14] definitely a difference, we

[1:26:17] should take that into account, it's

[1:26:18] very important to know the average income, okay, we have to

[1:26:21] understand this year

[1:26:22] with the property tax roll, what it creates

[1:26:24] is tax reductions for these

[1:26:25] people, because

[1:26:28] average increases in residences tend to be

[1:26:30] lower in the east than in

[1:26:32] the west,

[1:26:33] OK yeah, that's it, there's the east and the west or

[1:26:35] not, but what I see is that it seems like there's a renewal

[1:26:38] in

[1:26:39] the houses.

[1:26:40] People have taken over their

[1:26:42] parents' house, at least that's what I

[1:26:43] guess, and there are renovations and that, and they're

[1:26:47] more beautiful and all that.

[1:26:50] OK, so there is still an

[1:26:51] increase for the gentleman who was talking

[1:26:53] about the Federation of the Age

[1:26:55] of Art at the moment regarding the

[1:26:56] welcome tax, there is nothing being done regarding

[1:26:58] the transfer tax, nothing is being

[1:27:00] done. I would be surprised if the

[1:27:01] municipalities accepted that. What I

[1:27:03] understood is that someone who was a

[1:27:04] resident of Saint-Fériol and then

[1:27:07] moves back to Saint-Fériol after

[1:27:09] a certain age, let's say 65 years old, and then I don't know, can I, apologize madam, can I bring

[1:27:13] you back to the

[1:27:15] questions, perfect. Well, I'm

[1:27:17] disappointed too because I'm very

[1:27:19] visual, it's beautiful. But I mean

[1:27:21] , I didn't photograph them

[1:27:22] like Madame Fait did, it would have been fun

[1:27:24] for us who were there, who took

[1:27:25] the trouble to at least follow along, you

[1:27:28] know, with the comparison. That's very

[1:27:29] well done. But it's just that we

[1:27:31] could have had

[1:27:32] copies. We take little notes and

[1:27:33] everything. So for me, that's, uh, that's

[1:27:36] desirable at least for the people who are running

[1:27:37] , you know. I mean, we're following along just

[1:27:39] like you. Then I think it gives

[1:27:41] us pleasure to listen to you and

[1:27:42] also to understand and then we can

[1:27:44] pass that on to everyone so that

[1:27:47] everyone knows it well.

[1:27:51] I'm going to ask you to wait before

[1:27:53] going to the microphone.

[1:27:54] No no, but you'll be doing it from front to

[1:27:56] scrap paper, newspaper, that doesn't

[1:27:58] bother me. Uh, the other thing, just

[1:28:00] quickly, also regarding leisure activities

[1:28:03] as such, there was an adaptation of

[1:28:05] Jo's camp, I completely

[1:28:07] agree, I'm a director of leisure activities,

[1:28:09] I'm not against camps, I don't know

[1:28:11] if there was a big increase or

[1:28:12] what, but in any case I didn't understand what it was,

[1:28:14] I know it's at the

[1:28:15] level of the camp, listen, I don't even want to know,

[1:28:17] not what costs me more, what

[1:28:19] tires me a little, well, not a little, a

[1:28:22] lot, is what is the percentage

[1:28:23] of the city's debt at the moment, here,

[1:28:26] exact percentage, and it seems to me that we

[1:28:29] are at 12% in fact. We are very, very low

[1:28:32] compared to our comparisons of

[1:28:35] the MRC and even Quebec. Here, we have

[1:28:37] very little debt.

[1:28:40] Well, I repeat again, we are at 3000-4000

[1:28:42] m, so much the better. 4002

[1:28:45] 4000 I don't know what. But let's just say

[1:28:46] that the babies aren't providing enough yet. We understand each other

[1:28:48] . Do you agree with that too

[1:28:50] ? I think that's what I see in the

[1:28:52] numbers. I worked in Ville

[1:28:54] d'Anjou, McMasterville, uh, Brossard, and

[1:28:57] I see figures that look like

[1:28:59] these, I'm going to call some of my

[1:29:00] colleagues. I think that's high.

[1:29:03] Well yes, you put a lot of fire

[1:29:06] there especially the fire station as far as I'm

[1:29:09] concerned I'm there there unless

[1:29:11] you buy a new

[1:29:12] fire truck which I was told

[1:29:14] separately because it no longer fits in

[1:29:16] the fire station. So now we

[1:29:18] 're ready to buy a new

[1:29:19] fire station. Community center, if the

[1:29:21] community center. Yes. Well,

[1:29:23] anyway, I came here for the

[1:29:25] Christmas shows with my little ones, my

[1:29:27] little girl, and all that. I

[1:29:28] think it's very good. It looks

[1:29:29] rustic. It doesn't always look very

[1:29:31] modern. I'm telling you this just because there are so many wasted opportunities

[1:29:33] ,

[1:29:35] the Sûreté du Québec and whoever

[1:29:37] wants to negotiate with the Sûreté du Québec, we've had to

[1:29:38] sit down for a long time. What I do

[1:29:41] know, for example, is that each of the

[1:29:42] councillors, madam, sits on

[1:29:45] these committees, whether it be at the

[1:29:48] level of water, the water board, the

[1:29:50] safety of Quebec and so on. I

[1:29:53] imagine that if you are present it is

[1:29:56] because you have a say in this, and to

[1:29:57] say, "This is

[1:29:59] expensive, guys, can we do something about it?"

[1:30:01] No, you're right, if we take

[1:30:02] the example of the SQ, it's

[1:30:04] more at the MRC level. We saw

[1:30:06] a presentation last year, and

[1:30:09] indeed, it's flat to say, but we

[1:30:12] have nothing to say, we are being told

[1:30:14] how it works, how it will be

[1:30:17] distributed, and it's the burden we

[1:30:19] have, where do we have a little power to

[1:30:21] see, I would say, it's about trying to have

[1:30:23] more presence in our

[1:30:25] territories. That's where we

[1:30:27] put the pressure to get

[1:30:29] more cars. That's where we apply

[1:30:32] the pressure. But on a purely

[1:30:34] monetary level, I told you, but I

[1:30:36] can tell you that they are not present

[1:30:38] and I asked that they be present at some point, it is

[1:30:39] me, I live on

[1:30:41] Nagano opposite the street, I don't remember what it's

[1:30:44] called, which goes

[1:30:45] towards the new development in the back, who

[1:30:46] are these fake skeptics there, the big

[1:30:48] development in the back, there is

[1:30:49] nobody who stops.

[1:30:52] Person. OK, and there are little

[1:30:55] children who, in the morning, I'm not

[1:30:57] joking, I mean, I see it, I

[1:30:58] 'm at my window, and there are

[1:31:00] little children who are there, primary school children,

[1:31:02] young primary school children, who are there, the bus, there's

[1:31:04] nobody by, you see, we're moving away

[1:31:05] from our,

[1:31:08] I just want to tell you

[1:31:09] that we take this, I

[1:31:11] saw the gentleman note it, that's kind of how we have to

[1:31:12] operate,

[1:31:14] when you have something like that

[1:31:16] to report, don't hesitate to call the

[1:31:18] municipality, we can make the connection

[1:31:20] with them, they will come and be

[1:31:22] present. It's occasional, it's not

[1:31:24] perfect, but it's something we

[1:31:26] can do. It's fantastic.

[1:31:28] In any case, I mean because at some point

[1:31:29] something is going to

[1:31:30] happen because others are

[1:31:31] always developing, it's always, it's not

[1:31:33] just the resident who doesn't stop

[1:31:35] because he's stopped from

[1:31:37] the future royal who lines up there and

[1:31:39] then on the return the same thing, it's

[1:31:41] all the companies, you know,

[1:31:42] the trucks and that which go and

[1:31:44] develop behind the

[1:31:45] houses and I find it

[1:31:47] extremely dangerous that there's an S

[1:31:49] there and they make the S, they don't make

[1:31:51] two stops, they make the S. I don't know

[1:31:52] if it's clear but covered and then it's there and then the

[1:31:54] other one, I don't remember what it's

[1:31:55] called, in front of it, you know, I

[1:31:57] think.

[1:31:57] Exactly.

[1:31:58] Okay, that's it. OK. Listen to the others,

[1:32:00] I think it's unfortunate. I think we

[1:32:01] should have the right at the next

[1:32:03] city council meeting if I receive the

[1:32:05] papers so I

[1:32:08] can ask other questions

[1:32:10] concerning the city. The

[1:32:12] clerk tells me that starting tomorrow

[1:32:14] morning, you will be able to find them

[1:32:16] there on the municipality's website.

[1:32:18] OK. Ah, perfect. Excellent. It's good.

[1:32:19] Thank you so much.

[1:32:26] Good evening.

[1:32:29] committee.

[1:32:30] Good day sir.

[1:32:31] Uh, I just wanted to clarify a little bit about

[1:32:33] the Beaupré factory and the

[1:32:36] Parchal canal. Are you

[1:32:38] familiar with this? Yes.

[1:32:39] OK. There was a protocol that had been

[1:32:40] made in my time there

[1:32:43] and uh that was supposed to be put in place

[1:32:46] systematically. Do you

[1:32:48] still have the protocol to connect all of

[1:32:50] this?

[1:32:51] Ah, I'd have to ask Benoî to

[1:32:52] find out.

[1:32:53] If you don't have it, I can

[1:32:54] help you.

[1:32:56] I worked in that field.

[1:33:00] Yeah.

[1:33:00] André, I don't know if I remember, he was the one who did it

[1:33:06] . And I

[1:33:08] think that by taking it from there and

[1:33:11] following it, we won't have a problem with the

[1:33:14] amount of residual waste.

[1:33:18] OK.

[1:33:18] Thank you, sir.

[1:33:20] I have another question.

[1:33:22] the ecocentre

[1:33:24] in winter. Have you

[1:33:26] budgeted for the

[1:33:30] expenses involved if we go to Saint

[1:33:33] for this waste disposal? Did

[1:33:36] you include anything in your budgets

[1:33:38] to compensate for this title?

[1:33:42] Yes yes yes, those are the

[1:33:45] exact figures, I don't know but yes, that's the

[1:33:46] agreement we made with them.

[1:33:48] agreement because I didn't see anything there in

[1:33:51] the budget related to all that, it's

[1:33:53] an agreement we have for one year

[1:33:55] to start, it started on

[1:33:57] January 1, 2026, so it's certain that

[1:33:59] when we made the budget we were

[1:34:00] still at the level of estimates, we

[1:34:03] definitely kept a small

[1:34:04] budget on that side, but until

[1:34:06] now what we hear is that there are

[1:34:08] volumes but it's not

[1:34:11] more in troubleshooting mode, it's

[1:34:13] really in the summer that we see the

[1:34:14] biggest volumes

[1:34:20] for me, that's all. Thank you

[1:34:22] very much.

[1:34:27] Hello to the people in the

[1:34:29] Saint-Antoine district.

[1:34:29] Good evening, officer.

[1:34:30] I saw in the plan that there were

[1:34:32] budgets for the Saint-Nicolas road.

[1:34:35] Excellent. It's good. He lacked

[1:34:37] love there. Then for the

[1:34:39] next three years. In recent

[1:34:41] years, there has been some

[1:34:42] investment in Saint-Antoine and then

[1:34:45] Sainte-Marie.

[1:34:46] Does that mean that in the

[1:34:48] next three years, there will be zero?

[1:34:51] What do you mean by "there will be

[1:34:52] zero at the Saint-Antoine

[1:34:53] Saint-Marie level"?

[1:34:54] In terms of improvements

[1:34:56] at the level of the Sainte-Marie road and

[1:34:59] during

[1:35:00] Sainte-Marie, I don't know by heart for

[1:35:03] the next three

[1:35:05] years yet. Indeed, there are no

[1:35:06] capital works. Sure there will

[1:35:08] be maintenance work but there is

[1:35:11] nothing planned at the moment at the level

[1:35:13] of Saint-Antoine then Sainte-Marie

[1:35:14] for the next three years

[1:35:15] really our energies reflection

[1:35:18] which has had in the last year or in the

[1:35:21] last years we tear everything down and

[1:35:23] rebuild there is nothing planned on

[1:35:25] that side

[1:35:26] at the level of Sainte-Antoine

[1:35:28] for the three years we are really

[1:35:30] focusing on Col a little a little

[1:35:33] sorry need

[1:35:41] Robert Pilot Saintféréol. Uh, point 6

[1:35:44] relating to waste management. Is it

[1:35:47] just the pricing or is it something else

[1:35:50] ?

[1:35:51] That's the pricing.

[1:35:54] Is waste management

[1:35:56] considered an essential service? I do

[1:35:59] n't know when she has

[1:36:00] negotiations with the union, but

[1:36:02] is this part of the

[1:36:04] essential services that cannot be

[1:36:06] affected, or are

[1:36:10] blue-collar workers considered for

[1:36:12] the moment? You know that the

[1:36:15] law has evolved in recent

[1:36:17] years, but what we have known at the

[1:36:19] blue-collar level is that it was recognized

[1:36:21] as an essential service. So it's our

[1:36:22] blue-collar workers who provide the

[1:36:24] obvious colleague service. So, up until

[1:36:26] now, it's clear that we'll need to find

[1:36:27] a

[1:36:28] legal position on that side to prepare

[1:36:30] for the convention and all eventualities. It's

[1:36:32] nice to have some cheiters there, but when

[1:36:34] it comes, we know there are some, we just

[1:36:37] had a good example of that, not

[1:36:38] too far from the union, who decided

[1:36:41] they wanted to go. Then

[1:36:43] at that point, we know that it is the

[1:36:45] municipality that is really

[1:36:47] in the thick of things.

[1:36:48] For your information,

[1:36:50] union relations are currently very good

[1:36:52] . The collective agreement ends

[1:36:54] on December 31, 2026, so

[1:36:57] at the end of this year,

[1:36:59] and we have already planned to start

[1:37:01] neglecting the

[1:37:03] collective agreement sheet beforehand. OK,

[1:37:13] I need to fill in the blanks. I had

[1:37:15] two other questions. Uh,

[1:37:18] recently we talked about possibly

[1:37:20] two new residential developments, but

[1:37:24] I can't take your

[1:37:25] question in the part related to that. Um, in

[1:37:28] your PTI you presented, did

[1:37:30] you consider the possibility that there might be

[1:37:32] costs associated with these

[1:37:35] developments? That would be

[1:37:37] hypothetical, but because it might

[1:37:39] mean that if the

[1:37:41] treatment plant needs to increase its

[1:37:42] capacity, it will be necessary to search for

[1:37:44] new water sources.

[1:37:45] Well, at the moment the

[1:37:47] quick answer is no, we haven't considered it.

[1:37:49] OK. You didn't consider it. Well, that's what

[1:37:51] I wanted to know because it

[1:37:53] could be additional costs, so

[1:37:56] I think that needs to be taken into consideration.

[1:37:58] Last question, there is a law that

[1:38:00] was adopted this spring, law 79 by

[1:38:04] the minister, the Ministry of

[1:38:06] Municipal Affairs. Does that ring a bell

[1:38:07] ?

[1:38:10] Frankly, no, what's the name of

[1:38:12] the law?

[1:38:13] It's, uh, it's the modernization of

[1:38:16] municipal contractual management. The

[1:38:17] aim is to simplify the ways

[1:38:20] of doing things, to give contracts in a

[1:38:22] less comprehensive way, with

[1:38:24] less administration, After that, awarding

[1:38:27] contracts to, let's say, local people will be

[1:38:30] easy. So, uh, how did he

[1:38:33] say that? Uh, uh, then

[1:38:37] reduce the delays. Reduce the processing times for

[1:38:41] requests. Madam,

[1:38:42] excuse me, what is the

[1:38:43] connection with what has been

[1:38:45] presented?

[1:38:46] Well, the gain is that, uh, if they

[1:38:49] have put in place this new law,

[1:38:50] there must be some

[1:38:52] financial advantages somewhere there, you know. Well,

[1:38:54] it must be reflected in the way things are

[1:38:55] done, right? Has this been

[1:38:59] evaluated yet? It has been evaluated, but the law

[1:39:02] dates from March, but still, because

[1:39:04] all the municipalities were complaining

[1:39:06] that it was difficult to give

[1:39:08] permits, and now they want to simplify,

[1:39:11] but maybe if we simplify

[1:39:13] you will have less

[1:39:15] administrative hassle, maybe

[1:39:17] from what I understand, that's it, that's it, it hasn't

[1:39:19] been evaluated yet, I'll tell you about

[1:39:21] this step, basically it's on the

[1:39:24] current budget.

[1:39:26] It's beautiful. THANKS.

[1:39:30] So I'll take one last

[1:39:31] question.

[1:39:32] Yes. Because listen to me, I'm approaching things

[1:39:35] in a similar way to the two ladies.

[1:39:37] Uh, talking about a framework, but a framework is a...

[1:39:39] So if we look here you have 30

[1:39:44] at the guardian angel 13, we're talking about a good

[1:39:48] price of 20.

[1:39:48] What's the question in relation to that

[1:39:50] ? Well, I find it

[1:39:52] very expensive to have such a

[1:39:55] high p for a small

[1:39:57] municipality. Yeah, to

[1:40:03] have a type of... Yeah,

[1:40:05] but that's what was

[1:40:10] explained earlier. And

[1:40:12] secondly, also more mobile, when you

[1:40:14] look at the figures it's very high. Is it

[1:40:16] an electric car?

[1:40:19] Well no, it's a mini, a mini bus

[1:40:21] like a 16.

[1:40:22] Yeah. Yeah. I see them passing by my house

[1:40:24] . So that means that at that

[1:40:26] moment,

[1:40:27] there is no economy, it's

[1:40:28] oil. It just goes on and on.

[1:40:30] As I said earlier, it's a

[1:40:31] service. Yeah

[1:40:33] , but you know, sometimes

[1:40:34] I find that we're in a

[1:40:37] period of uncertainty pretty much everywhere.

[1:40:40] Well, in the municipality, obviously, there are

[1:40:43] people who are quite wealthy, and there are

[1:40:45] others who are less so. So,

[1:40:47] I think that at that time, the last

[1:40:49] time, there were people who were

[1:40:50] talking about it too. You need to be a little

[1:40:52] more vigilant and pay attention to

[1:40:53] certain expenses. Uh, you live

[1:40:56] here, you know that. So, there are

[1:40:58] certain things there that could

[1:40:59] be changed in the eventuality.

[1:41:01] Indeed, but I would say to you, uh,

[1:41:03] you were talking to me about vision, uh, the

[1:41:05] last time we saw each other, well, that's

[1:41:06] part of our vision.

[1:41:08] The fact is, we often talk about the

[1:41:10] environment, well, if we succeed in

[1:41:12] setting up public transport,

[1:41:15] we will have fewer cars on the

[1:41:17] roads and provide services to our

[1:41:19] citizens, our young and our

[1:41:21] old, everyone, that is part of

[1:41:23] our vision. So I'm tempted to say if we didn't know

[1:41:25] , we won't know. So there's a

[1:41:28] lot of carpooling too. So it's

[1:41:31] the neighbor.

[1:41:32] Yes, I hear you. But you know, you

[1:41:33] agree with me that a teenager, uh,

[1:41:36] you know, he's not going to wait for a taxi. In short

[1:41:39] , it's a political decision that we made

[1:41:41] . Then uh I think I speak on

[1:41:43] behalf of the council, but you take responsibility, we

[1:41:45] try to see if it can meet a

[1:41:48] need. As I mentioned

[1:41:49] earlier, clearly, we know, this is not something that is

[1:41:53] profitable.

[1:41:55] It's a service to the citizens. Yes,

[1:41:57] that's for sure. You're also talking about a

[1:41:59] [ __ ] ball field, uh,

[1:42:02] could that be a

[1:42:03] possibility of doing something

[1:42:04] inside it for the time being? No, because we don't have the

[1:42:07] information, we don't have the

[1:42:08] infrastructure at the moment.

[1:42:10] Could accommodate that. OK.

[1:42:14] No, but it's because sometimes there are

[1:42:15] places that are free that

[1:42:18] can be used. You have

[1:42:19] buildings that are not in use. We don't have any

[1:42:21] at the moment.

[1:42:23] There are rentals that can be

[1:42:24] made at the gym, for example. People, go ahead,

[1:42:29] yes,

[1:42:29] or

[1:42:31] someone, thank you very much

[1:42:37] for your

[1:42:38] participation. This will bring

[1:42:43] the meeting to a close. So I will now ask for a

[1:42:44] motion to adjourn the meeting.

[1:42:47] Thank you very much, thank you all for

[1:42:49] being here. Have a very pleasant evening.

Séance extraordinaire du budget 2026 - 26 janvier 2026

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