[0:02] this conference will now be recorded

[0:30] good afternoon

[0:32] everyone I'd like to resume the city of

[0:34] Salmon Arm regular council meeting of

[0:37] Monday February the

[0:39] 10th like to begin by acknowledging that

[0:41] we're Gathering here on the traditional

[0:44] territory of the shet MC people with

[0:46] whom we share these lands and where we

[0:49] live and we work

[0:54] together there was a tragedy in our

[0:56] community this weekend

[1:00] a very difficult

[1:03] one a young man walking across a

[1:08] lake fell through the

[1:13] ice the dive team from Vancouver is

[1:17] presently on a recovery Mission out in

[1:19] the

[1:24] lake we are thinking of his

[1:28] family we're thinking of his

[1:31] friends people surrounding

[1:35] him the RCMP the search and

[1:38] rescue fire department

[1:41] personnel that were on hand for this

[1:43] very difficult

[1:46] situation it's unconscionable to

[1:50] me losing a son in that

[1:57] way so we will support in the best way

[2:00] that we

[2:02] can the families that are involved and I

[2:06] know it touches the whole

[2:10] Community special thanks to staff

[2:13] sergeant Simon

[2:15] Scott and his communication with the

[2:18] city with our CAO with our human

[2:21] resources personnel

[2:25] here we'll update you um as we hear

[2:30] here and hopefully um the recovery

[2:34] Mission will be

[2:36] successful and provide the family with

[2:39] just any kind of uh of hope so I'm very

[2:45] sorry to report

[2:53] that we have a an agenda that's uh been

[2:57] presented to us I'll accept accept a

[3:00] motion to adopt that agenda councelor

[3:03] canilla councelor Canon thank you all

[3:06] those in

[3:10] favor passes

[3:13] unanimously counselor's disclosure of

[3:16] interest if you have any disclosure of

[3:18] interest on any of the regular council

[3:21] meeting agenda items please indicate

[3:27] so councelor canala please go ahead

[3:30] item

[3:34] 9.3 item 9.3 thank

[3:37] you in regards to the leas of my

[3:40] employer with the cityne property that

[3:42] we have our offices on Council you put

[3:46] your down of

[3:48] course I'm

[3:50] back uh I'll repeat uh 9.3 Deputy um the

[3:55] deputy corporate officer report

[3:57] regarding the um lease agreement with

[4:01] the the property that my employer is

[4:03] using presently and 14.1 the

[4:06] presentation with which I'm sad to miss

[4:09] the samon arm Arts Center uh and art

[4:12] gallery the my employer the FK music

[4:14] Society works with um this organization

[4:18] uh and partners and sponsors the wow

[4:20] event so I'll be stepping up for that

[4:22] thank you councelor

[4:24] ganella any further disclosures from

[4:28] counselors seeing none we'll go to

[4:30] confirmation of minutes of the regular

[4:32] council meeting of January the 27th I

[4:35] would take virtual mover and seconder if

[4:37] there are there councelor lavry thank

[4:38] you for the move move of that

[4:41] motion councelor Wallace Richman would

[4:43] second any additions to dels to those

[4:48] minutes see none I'll call a question

[4:50] all those in

[4:53] favor any business

[4:56] arising thank you that passes

[4:58] unanimously

[5:00] we have three committee reports again

[5:03] counselors we don't need to move the

[5:04] minutes but I will go through each one

[5:06] of them and give you time if you wish to

[5:09] bring forward any item first 7.1 is the

[5:12] social impact advisory committee meeting

[5:14] minutes of January the 24th for your

[5:22] information second set is the Greenways

[5:25] liaison committee meeting minutes of

[5:27] January the 23rd

[5:31] yes councelor labry as chair of that

[5:33] committee go ahead yeah thanks your

[5:36] worship I just uh I won't get into in

[5:37] detail but there's the a long list of uh

[5:41] spreadsheets and tables of uh work

[5:43] completed in 2024 what's on the 2025

[5:47] project update uh maintenance budget

[5:51] essentially good news all around uh

[5:53] including developments uh moving forward

[5:57] uh legal developments moving forward

[5:59] permitting uh work on with the school

[6:01] district as well so all good there um I

[6:04] just wanted to highlight besides when

[6:07] you look at those spreadsheets and uh

[6:10] followed out it's there's money that's

[6:12] put in by

[6:13] Partners incline stuff that's donated

[6:17] and the total picture is leveraged

[6:20] funding going forward to actually do

[6:22] things um part of that Leverage is in

[6:26] kind funding and I would just like to

[6:28] note that uh in kind work from Brown

[6:32] Johnson uh it's absolutely amazing and

[6:35] helps the city move forward in in their

[6:37] Trails as well as mrdt

[6:41] contributions uh because mrdt recognizes

[6:44] that our trail system or connectivity is

[6:48] uh uh an attraction for tourism as well

[6:50] is a great thing to do so I'll just

[6:52] leave it there um but just to point out

[6:54] that uh um that in kind stuff

[7:00] the contributions are they come from all

[7:03] over the community thank

[7:05] you thank you councelor labry councelor

[7:07] ganella did you wish to speak to those

[7:10] minutes thank you worship um I'd like to

[7:13] speak to the community Heritage

[7:15] committee reports okay let's go to that

[7:17] one that's 7.3 yes please yes thank you

[7:21] um that we're going into the month of

[7:23] February and at the end of the month we

[7:25] have Heritage week and the meeting on

[7:29] the 24th we're hoping to announce the

[7:32] Heritage uh a winners as we do annually

[7:35] during a regular council meeting great

[7:38] thank you look forward to that thank

[7:41] you any other business arising from

[7:44] those

[7:46] minutes okay we'll go to uh item eight

[7:48] the Columbia Sho shop Regional District

[7:50] update councelor Flynn if you have

[7:52] something to share thank you thank you

[7:53] we don't have a written report because

[7:55] the board meeting is next Thursday but I

[7:59] think it's next Thursday but um the

[8:02] budget Committee of the whole meeting

[8:05] was on January 30th that was budget one

[8:08] kind of like what we're doing on

[8:10] Wednesday budget one uh staff based on

[8:14] discussion and direction from uh the

[8:17] directors has taken budget one back and

[8:21] is working on it um I don't know if uh

[8:24] director labry had planned to provide

[8:26] many details um I think it might be

[8:28] better to wait for budget too but due to

[8:31] some of the decisions we've made and

[8:32] have been made uh there will be a

[8:34] decrease in our requisition overall um

[8:37] but the uh biggest area once again is

[8:41] reserves for closures of

[8:46] landfills and it's a significant

[8:49] unfunded

[8:51] liability it's very deep conversation

[8:55] and director lavry and I talked about

[8:57] whether we should invite

[9:00] um Ben Van Nostrand present something to

[9:03] Council on some of the details about

[9:06] what landfill closures means so I will

[9:09] economically and all of those things so

[9:12] there is a solid waste review program

[9:16] review and strategic plan review going

[9:19] on it's almost as detailed if not as

[9:23] detailed as our ocp review um and there

[9:27] is a committee working on that but um

[9:30] I'm just trying to gauge the desire of

[9:34] council to hear about our biggest cost

[9:37] item that we pay for at the csrd and to

[9:40] get information from Mr Vin ostrand or

[9:43] do you trust your two

[9:45] directors I could comment on that uh

[9:48] councelor Flynn I absolutely trust our

[9:51] directors however I would like Mr van

[9:53] nostran to come and talk to

[9:56] us I want to understand why the

[10:00] that replacement budget is so aggressive

[10:03] I mean the jump in this year's csrd

[10:06] requisition on that budget line is

[10:10] enormous and uh I would like to

[10:13] understand it better so if Mr van

[10:16] nostran is able to come and speak to us

[10:18] I think it would be good for all of

[10:19] council to hear it firsthand okay thank

[10:21] you and I'm glad to hear your trust of

[10:23] your two directors or counselors is not

[10:26] predicated on the budget or Solid Waste

[10:30] but um do you think we would want to try

[10:33] to get him here for the planning meeting

[10:35] next

[10:36] Tuesday um I'll leave that between you

[10:38] and the CFO or CEO um for a later

[10:42] discussion okay thank you councelor

[10:46] lavry thanks your worship and thanks to

[10:50] councelor Finn for bringing this up um

[10:52] I'm not sure when is best for uh for Ben

[10:56] to come I think that again the final

[10:58] vote on the budget will not be until

[11:01] March uh the next committee that hold is

[11:03] the end of February so there is a bit of

[11:05] time there just as's a preview and the

[11:08] Regional District board is having this

[11:11] discussion there is no doubt that this

[11:14] is a significantly

[11:17] underfunded

[11:19] um line item based on changing

[11:22] expectations from the province of best

[11:25] practice for closing landfills and we're

[11:28] in this situation

[11:29] because people are including myself of

[11:33] everything we throw

[11:35] away and nobody's paid a lot of

[11:39] attention not to the day-to-day

[11:41] operations but the closure of it so the

[11:44] in the you're right your worship

[11:46] significant increases over the next five

[11:50] years projected

[11:53] out additional increases every year

[11:56] which are not even going to scratch the

[11:58] surface of getting to even a portion of

[12:01] the reserve needed the uh discussion at

[12:04] the regional district table has been uh

[12:07] and there trade-offs no matter what you

[12:09] do if you up the fees for those who are

[12:11] dumping that discourages people to dump

[12:13] illegally so it's a of it's an alive

[12:16] vibrant conversation I think Ben can

[12:18] talk about those options um I think that

[12:21] uh I'd leave it to uh councelor Flynn

[12:25] the vice chair to work that out I don't

[12:27] think we personally I don't think we

[12:29] need it right away um it's going to be

[12:31] part of the

[12:32] requisition um and it it' be I think it'

[12:35] be highly informative for this table to

[12:37] have their their heads around the

[12:39] absolute dilemma of how to even

[12:42] partially fund this reserve for what's

[12:46] anticipated down the line so uh I'd

[12:48] encourage us to do it thank you great

[12:51] thank you councelor labry councelor

[12:52] Flynn one more comment yeah just a quick

[12:54] consensus does do we feel it would be a

[12:57] better thing to do at a planning meeting

[13:00] or a council meeting because that'll

[13:01] help me and I do agree with councelor

[13:03] lavry it's not necessarily as urgent as

[13:05] next Tuesday because the next this

[13:08] budget two for csrd is at the end of

[13:11] February and the approval of the budget

[13:13] is March um so and I do want to thank in

[13:16] advance councelor lingren who's going to

[13:18] attend budget two session because of my

[13:21] absence so thank you um chief

[13:24] administrative officer um that would fit

[13:27] into a planning meeting sometime uh um

[13:29] when councelor Flynn and yourself thinks

[13:31] that it might fit would that be okay to

[13:32] do it that way absolutely your worship

[13:35] thank you very much thank

[13:37] you okay let's move forward then um to

[13:41] staff reports uh 9.1 as the Chief

[13:44] Financial Officer parcel tax roll over

[13:47] roll review panel there is a motion if I

[13:50] can have a mover into second or it's to

[13:51] set a date for that thank you councelor

[13:53] lingren councelor ganella I'll ask our

[13:55] Chief Financial Officer if he wishes to

[13:58] um say more than uh the motion describes

[14:01] there uh Drew your your worship it's

[14:04] just the standard uh personal tax to

[14:07] authenticate the role that happens every

[14:08] year as described in the motion if

[14:11] there's any questions I'm available

[14:12] great thank you councel has any

[14:14] questions around that

[14:18] motion okay I'll call the question all

[14:20] those in favor

[14:30] councelor Wallace Richmond I'm just

[14:32] waiting for your vote there it is thank

[14:33] you that passes unanimously we'll go to

[14:36] 9.2 chief administrative officer ubcm

[14:40] and silga meeting

[14:45] expenses your worship my apologies there

[14:48] is one minor correction for this motion

[14:51] okay um instead of travel to ubcm and

[14:54] silga it is ubcm and

[14:57] fcm yeah thank you

[14:59] um councelor Flynn you're willing to

[15:01] move that motion I am second councelor

[15:04] ganella thank you chief administrative

[15:06] officer speaking to the

[15:08] motion thank you worship um this is

[15:12] intended just to allow staff to make

[15:16] travel Arrangements on behalf of

[15:18] councelor Wallace Richmond and then seek

[15:20] reimbursement from ubcm and fcm there is

[15:24] no cost to the city the city does

[15:27] um up front pay for the room but seeks

[15:31] reimbursement so there is no um no net

[15:34] impact to the city thank you questions

[15:38] or comments from Council councelor Canon

[15:40] thank you just a quick question um

[15:43] looking at this this is for the travel

[15:47] arrangements and is there pdms for that

[15:52] are in here too that are administrated

[15:54] through ubcm and fcm the chief

[15:57] administrative officer

[16:00] my apologies your worship I didn't hear

[16:02] the end of what um councelor Canon said

[16:05] go go ahead councelor Canon if you want

[16:07] to repeat the question does this include

[16:09] uh pums that

[16:13] are that councelor Wallace richm would

[16:15] get through ubcm and

[16:18] fcm chief administrative officer through

[16:21] your worship no this is just for the

[16:24] accommodation piece so just travel and

[16:28] hotels just the hotel okay and then uh

[16:31] the city seeks reimbursement so the

[16:34] executive assistant will book the room

[16:37] and and then we'll put in the um

[16:39] submission for the

[16:41] claim okay can I just I just have one

[16:44] more question yeah go ahead no so I know

[16:47] so this is the travel Arrangement so

[16:49] when councelor Wallace Richmond goes to

[16:53] ubcm and fcm in her positions that she

[16:56] holds does she get per DMs

[17:00] then from the city and only the city or

[17:03] does she get it from those

[17:06] groups I see councelor Wallace Richmond

[17:08] is willing to comment as well so can I

[17:10] go your yeah councelor Wallace Richmond

[17:12] please go ahead uh thank you your

[17:14] worship I appreciate the work the staff

[17:16] does to help me with these bookings

[17:19] often these uh meetings are organized

[17:21] months in

[17:22] advance um and

[17:25] many meetings being organized months in

[17:27] advance means quite a few bookings and

[17:30] um their help is much appreciated the

[17:32] ubcm board pays its

[17:36] own uh per DMS and reimburses any travel

[17:42] the city's role in ubcm is strictly to

[17:44] book the hotel room ahead of time and

[17:46] then seek reimbursement directly from

[17:48] ubcm for fcm there is a small

[17:51] communities travel fund uh my

[17:53] understanding is that fund pays for

[17:55] travel and accommodation for any upcm

[17:59] board meeting uh but not fcm

[18:02] convention um and ubcm doesn't pay for

[18:06] my convention time either so there are

[18:10] uh there's about uh I would say up to

[18:15] five days of per dm with fcm work maybe

[18:19] a few more that are covered by the city

[18:21] my understanding is the small Community

[18:22] Fund may not actually cover that but I'm

[18:26] I'm I'm not aware of the specific detail

[18:29] of the only that I can only use the

[18:31] small communities fund for fcm travel

[18:34] and accommodation for board meetings and

[18:36] nothing

[18:39] else y thank you councelor Canada do you

[18:41] have any any other questions or comments

[18:44] you want to

[18:45] make so I so this motion is for ubcm and

[18:52] fcm not silga and so my understanding is

[18:57] through you your worship to counselor

[18:59] Wallace Richmond you only get you get

[19:01] the pums when you're there through the

[19:04] city of Salmon

[19:05] Arm correct only for let's just let's

[19:09] just go back to the motion so the motion

[19:13] is to have staff manage the

[19:15] accommodation Arrangements in advance

[19:17] for ubcm and fcm that's the motion that

[19:20] we're talking about right now so if

[19:22] there's further questions outside that

[19:24] motion certainly we could handle it but

[19:26] let's handle a motion first so councelor

[19:28] do you have further comments around the

[19:30] motion piece or would or would would

[19:33] that information affect your vote on the

[19:35] motion no it won't I would just reading

[19:37] the background and trying to get my head

[19:39] wrapped around exactly what it all means

[19:42] so I'll ask later your worship okay

[19:46] thank you other speakers to the motion

[19:48] councelor Flynn speaking to the motion I

[19:51] will vote in support it's a zero impact

[19:54] to the community it provides the

[19:57] community with value and I guess we

[19:59] shouldn't say there's no cost because

[20:01] there's the staff time to do it but

[20:03] that's minimal so I will vote in support

[20:05] of the motion and if we discuss the

[20:08] other issue further I will comment on

[20:09] that okay thank you yeah I will allow a

[20:12] discussion after this motion if uh a

[20:14] councelor wishes to bring it up um

[20:17] councelor Ling speaking to the motion

[20:19] yeah is there a cost savings if the city

[20:22] does the booking rather than councelor

[20:23] Wallace Richmond booking her own

[20:25] accommodation chief administrative

[20:27] officer three your worship uh the city

[20:30] doesn't have any preferential rates but

[20:33] it is um an assistance to councelor well

[20:36] searchman due to the fact that it is

[20:39] time consuming to make these

[20:41] arrangements and there's lots of them so

[20:43] we have administrative staff that we can

[20:45] help out with that okay

[20:48] thanks are there any other speakers to

[20:50] the

[20:52] motion seean I'll call a question all

[20:54] those in favor

[20:58] that passes unanimously councelor Canon

[21:01] can I come back to you now if you have

[21:03] further questions around the report if

[21:06] you just press your button and I'll get

[21:07] your mic on for you yeah it was just I

[21:10] was just

[21:11] curious if counselor Wallace Richman

[21:15] gets paid per

[21:20] DMS through

[21:22] fcm or the

[21:24] city and also for ubcm if she gets pums

[21:30] paid through ubcm or the city daily pums

[21:34] and then while we have the typo up there

[21:36] I was curious about silga also if they

[21:39] pay per Dums when she attends in

[21:42] official capacity just curious got you

[21:46] councelor Wallace Richman can I pass the

[21:47] microphone over to you once more yes of

[21:51] course uh thank you important that we

[21:53] understand how this works I receive a

[21:55] prum for every day I'm away uh

[21:59] on behalf of as an elected uh sound

[22:03] armed counselor on behalf of silga ubcm

[22:05] and fcm silga

[22:07] pays uh its per DMS directly to its

[22:11] directors ubcm pays its per DMS directly

[22:15] to its directors and

[22:18] fcm uh fcm does not pay its directors to

[22:24] attend meetings but the province of BC

[22:27] through ubcm has set up a small

[22:29] communities travel fund specifically to

[22:32] allow for small communities to be

[22:34] represented at the fcm board and any

[22:38] expense related to my time there on at a

[22:40] board meeting uh travel accommodation

[22:44] and and per DMS as I understand it is

[22:47] reimbursed to uh the city from the fcm

[22:51] small communities travel fund run

[22:54] through ubcm it's very complicated but

[22:57] it was a wise decision of ubcm to make

[23:00] sure that small communities could also

[23:03] play a role on that uh at that National

[23:05] table and I'm grateful for uh for that

[23:09] fund's existence I do need specific

[23:13] Clarity around whether they

[23:15] reimburse

[23:17] um P DMS uh but because I don't process

[23:23] the uh the reimbursements I I I wouldn't

[23:27] be able to tell you I do charged I do um

[23:30] submit them though counc Canon do you

[23:34] have further query there so you submit

[23:37] your PDM

[23:38] to whichever affiliation you're with so

[23:41] it has zero cost to the city for pdms I

[23:44] didn't realize that I thought maybe the

[23:45] city paid the prum at at most it would

[23:49] be some it would be fcm

[23:52] pums but fcm is only two meetings a year

[23:56] well that's great because it's a good

[23:58] value value having you representing

[24:00] those those boards so awesome thank you

[24:04] thank you for the clarification C Flyn

[24:06] did you want to speak I was just going

[24:07] to clarify ubcm but because I sat on

[24:10] that through being president of silga

[24:12] and all those pdms are paid separately

[24:15] the fcm one is confusing and has been a

[24:17] discussion point at the csrd table um

[24:21] because there's a chance that there

[24:23] might be a pum or two days in a year

[24:27] charged to the csrd when director Martin

[24:31] was on

[24:32] fcm if we have to deal with that I think

[24:35] we should because I fully would support

[24:37] it thank you very much I think it was

[24:39] just a matter of information so

[24:41] appreciate the discussion there we will

[24:43] go to

[24:44] 9.3 um councelor ganel I think you're

[24:48] leaving for that one

[24:55] okay so item

[24:57] 9.3 Deputy corporate officer is going to

[25:00] speak about the lease of 5413 Street

[25:03] Southwest seminar folk music Society

[25:06] there is a motion um I'd like to get on

[25:09] the floor if I could have a move in a

[25:11] second councelor Canon would move and

[25:13] councelor Flynn would second thank you

[25:16] um I'll ask our Deputy um corporate

[25:19] officer to speak to the

[25:21] report thank you your worship the salar

[25:24] folk music Society has been occupying

[25:27] the building at 5413 Street Southwest

[25:30] since

[25:31] 2015 they've been using it as the office

[25:35] for um the folk music Society roots and

[25:39] blues um they've made some significant

[25:41] improvements to the building over the

[25:43] years and they've expressed an interest

[25:44] in continuing to occupy that spot and

[25:48] have requested an additional five-year

[25:50] lease at a nominal

[25:53] rate thank you very much for that and

[25:55] for the report counselors I'll open up

[25:57] to you if you have any questions of Miss

[25:59] Pont or comments she wish to

[26:04] make seeing none I will call a question

[26:06] all those in

[26:11] favor that passes unanimously thank you

[26:15] we can invite councelor ganella back in

[26:30] I bet he thought we were going to be

[26:32] longer than

[26:36] that he was leaving for 20

[26:42] minutes we work fast without you

[26:44] councelor

[26:47] ganella welcome back okay we will go to

[26:51] item 94 director of engineering Public

[26:53] Works climate resilient plan steering

[26:55] committee there is a motion for

[26:57] consideration I could have a mover and a

[26:59] seconder councelor linger would move

[27:01] that counc canel would second thank you

[27:04] I'll ask our director of engineering and

[27:06] Public Works to speak to the part thank

[27:09] you worship so on January 13th of this

[27:11] year Council approved the development of

[27:12] the climate action resiliency plan and

[27:16] in accordance with the RFP the in

[27:18] preparation of the CRP requires the

[27:21] formation of a climate resiliency

[27:22] steering committee to provide local

[27:25] expertise guidance strategic Direction

[27:28] um

[27:29] for the development and support and

[27:30] influence its implementation within the

[27:34] community the attached terms of

[27:35] reference are outline the Mandate scope

[27:38] of the members of this steering

[27:40] committee which staff are is proposing

[27:43] to consist of 22 members formed from a

[27:45] combination of external organizations

[27:48] City committees and citizens at

[27:51] large um Alternatives and implications

[27:54] should Council not choose to form this

[27:57] climate resiliency steering committee

[27:59] staff would will proceed with the

[28:01] development of a working group uh made

[28:03] up of City staff csrd staff and in

[28:06] consultation with First Nation

[28:08] Representatives um the outcomes would

[28:11] then be forwarded to these organizations

[28:13] uh for review and feedback um ultimately

[28:17] Staff feel that this is a uh not the

[28:20] best way to go about it um however that

[28:23] is an option um and communication upon

[28:26] Council approval of formation of this

[28:28] steering committee staff would contact

[28:30] organizations uh proposed in the terms

[28:32] of reference to request participation

[28:35] and in nominating members and staff will

[28:38] also advertise for the recruitment of

[28:39] three um citizens at large um this

[28:43] resulting list uh will be reported back

[28:45] to council for formal review and

[28:48] appointments great thank you very much

[28:51] um the director of engineeri and public

[28:52] works councelors I'll open it up to you

[28:55] to comments or questions councelor

[28:57] lingren

[28:58] thanks your worship um yeah I'm uh um in

[29:04] principle uh in favor of having a

[29:06] steering committee Vernon has had a

[29:09] and uh climate ambassadors since they

[29:12] instituted their plan A couple of years

[29:14] ago and I think that that's helped it be

[29:17] very successful

[29:19] I'm uh curious about the terms of

[29:24] reference um the city doesn't seem to

[29:27] have a seat on the steering committee is

[29:30] that just implied that somebody from the

[29:32] city would chair it or how does that

[29:35] work thank you I I see under the

[29:37] procedures that it says the crpc will be

[29:40] chaired by the consultant um but I pass

[29:43] your question on to the director of

[29:44] engineering and Public Works City it

[29:47] would be chaired by the consultant and

[29:49] there would be City staff attending the

[29:51] meetings um but really we're looking for

[29:53] feedback from this committee and then

[29:55] there's still a a working committee made

[29:57] up of the csrd staff and as well as

[30:01] First Nation so there is a working

[30:02] committee as well good councelor lingam

[30:05] please continue yeah so would the city

[30:07] have a voice but no

[30:08] vote uh if motions were to come forward

[30:11] from this steering committee a director

[30:15] of engineer and Public Works your

[30:17] worship um this this steering committee

[30:19] is is essentially a it's not for

[30:22] creating content is for review and so

[30:24] any comments would go back to the

[30:25] working committee and be reviewed with

[30:27] the cons consultant again and then come

[30:29] forward to council if anything was

[30:31] required okay that makes sense um just

[30:34] one uh typo I think and it's probably a

[30:39] um anyway just an oversight in the terms

[30:42] of reference the Salmon Arm Bay nature

[30:44] enhancement Society we're missing the

[30:47] word enhancement

[30:49] so thank you thank you for that uh

[30:51] councelor lingren counselor lavy please

[30:54] go

[30:56] ahead yeah thanks your thanks the staff

[30:59] uh good good good things happen to those

[31:01] who wait and it's great to see this uh

[31:03] being here in a timely matter I um I

[31:06] would just emphasize the nature of a

[31:08] steering committee I think you worship

[31:10] have already done it we've seen the role

[31:12] of a steering committee and in the ocp

[31:14] process it's uh it it's to ensure that

[31:19] the work that's being done is within the

[31:22] guidelines of uh the input that's there

[31:25] I have one question your worship through

[31:26] you to staff and that's about membership

[31:30] um I don't

[31:32] see and 22 members is a pretty healthy

[31:36] table um I don't

[31:39] see membership from First Nations

[31:42] indigenous

[31:44] community and I know that on the uh

[31:47] active Transportation task force we were

[31:50] 21e worship maybe at a at a at a time um

[31:54] we did send out invitations sometimes

[31:56] not all members could make it but um we

[31:59] did have unless I've missed it but I I

[32:01] don't see it on the list there and I

[32:03] think it's uh I was going to say worth

[32:05] considering but I think it's more than

[32:07] worth considering I think the

[32:08] invitations would need to go

[32:10] out I'll pass that to the director of

[32:12] engineering public works if he has any

[32:15] comments um I appreciate the comments uh

[32:18] in regards to the steering committee um

[32:20] the working group would have uh First

[32:24] Nations representation on that group as

[32:26] well so we are working to try and find

[32:28] out who would be available to attend the

[32:30] working group meetings so but we will

[32:33] consider the steering committee as

[32:35] well thank you councelor lavry just

[32:38] before I go to the next speaker did you

[32:39] have anything else you'd like to share

[32:41] or say yeah um no I I think

[32:45] um thanks for that response

[32:48] I I think it I would suggest it needs to

[32:51] be more than considered I I would to

[32:53] consider I think that the uh I think is

[32:57] important to

[32:58] issue uh a request along the same

[33:03] process that uh is there um and uh to do

[33:07] and and to have done that and then the

[33:10] the determination of participation uh to

[33:12] that invitation is then within uh other

[33:16] communities thank you thank you

[33:19] councelor Flynn please press your button

[33:22] sorry thank you worship um on the last

[33:24] page of the terms of reference it says

[33:27] the C R PSC is unlikely to have any to

[33:30] make any decisions as their main rol is

[33:32] to provide advice and expertise for

[33:34] consideration and improving the content

[33:36] and they'll make its decision making by

[33:39] consensus um where everything has to be

[33:42] unanimously agreed to so I guess my

[33:44] first comment was I can't imagine a 22

[33:47] person

[33:49] committee having to make unanimous

[33:53] consensus

[33:54] decisions um I also can't imagine adding

[33:56] more people to the 22 person committee

[33:59] so I guess I'm not really understanding

[34:01] the difference and they're not making

[34:03] decisions so I'm not really

[34:05] understanding what the role of this

[34:07] group is compared to the working group

[34:09] because I wasn't intimately involved

[34:11] with the ocp process so um I'm concerned

[34:14] about the size of the committee I'm

[34:16] concerned about the comment that it's

[34:18] got to be consensus decision making

[34:20] because that could be or unanimous could

[34:23] be very difficult and might stifle good

[34:26] conversation um

[34:28] but I don't know what decisions they

[34:29] will be making because it says they're

[34:31] not a decision-making group so I've got

[34:34] all kinds of questions if others feel

[34:36] this is the way to go I support it but I

[34:40] haven't had much success with 22 person

[34:42] groups or

[34:43] bigger what I can say to you councelor

[34:46] Flynn is I can only talk about my

[34:48] experience with the steering committee

[34:50] and the official community plan and I

[34:51] think it sort of parallels this and with

[34:54] the same wording the steering committee

[34:55] and our steering committee for the

[34:57] official commune plan I kind of went

[34:58] into it with um I wondered as well

[35:02] because there it's a big committee

[35:03] there's about 20 people on it but what I

[35:05] can say is it worked extremely well um

[35:08] and I anticipate that this will

[35:10] too um and the reason it worked well was

[35:13] because each of the members understood

[35:15] what their role was and their role was

[35:18] not to um bring their bias of content to

[35:21] the official community plan but rather

[35:23] to take in the information which is what

[35:25] this group will do and make sure that

[35:28] the information is reflected um that is

[35:31] being considered by the working

[35:33] committee so it's kind of they take the

[35:36] information they make sure that what's

[35:39] being said is reflected in the in

[35:41] information that goes to the working

[35:42] committee uh we also worked on a

[35:45] consensus basis and consensus and

[35:48] unanimous aren't quite parallel um there

[35:51] was some give and take for sure on the

[35:53] ocp steering committee but because

[35:55] everyone understood what their role was

[35:58] um as as it became apparent if I was the

[36:01] only person out on on thinking that that

[36:04] maybe shouldn't go in there the

[36:06] consensus piece came about and you know

[36:08] people would leave that and so there was

[36:10] some give and take so it work there um I

[36:14] know it's a lot of people on a committee

[36:16] but it's hard to leave any of those

[36:17] groups out so um that will be my comment

[36:21] there okay and then for

[36:24] clarity like the ocp which we play a

[36:28] bigger role as Council I think but

[36:29] nothing this committee doesn't make

[36:32] decisions without it coming back to

[36:33] council so I'll just ask the director of

[36:35] engineering Public Works my understand

[36:37] as the working committee would then

[36:38] bring any any uh recommendations to

[36:41] council you're correct your worship this

[36:44] this is um the information the

[36:46] discussion that comes back from the

[36:47] steering committee would go through the

[36:49] working group uh in consultation with

[36:52] the consultant and then that would come

[36:54] back to council okay thank you

[36:58] councelor lingren um I'm gon to try this

[37:00] button and see if it lights up your it

[37:02] did okay oh it sorry press it again

[37:06] councelor

[37:09] lingren all right please go ahead thanks

[37:13] um just a comment about the uh three

[37:16] citizens at large it says that includes

[37:18] one youth representative and one senior

[37:21] representative and I would like to make

[37:24] a motion to change that and then I'll

[37:26] speak to that and my motion would be

[37:28] that one includes a youth under 18 and

[37:32] one person is under the age of

[37:37] 30 okay sorry I just want to understand

[37:39] your um

[37:42] your Amendment again I would like to

[37:46] remove the piece that says that includes

[37:48] one youth representative and one senior

[37:50] representative and replace it with one

[37:53] youth under 18 and one youth or one uh I

[37:58] don't know what we call them young adult

[37:59] under the age of 30 okay understand is

[38:02] there a seconder to that

[38:06] Amendment um if you want more

[38:08] information you can second

[38:12] it thank you seconded by councelor

[38:14] ganella please speak to your Amendment

[38:17] councelor lingren trying to follow the

[38:19] process here um so it's my experience

[38:22] from uh chairing and participating in

[38:25] many of the Committees that the city is

[38:26] involved in the nonprofits and

[38:29] organizations around town that many many

[38:31] of the people that have the time and

[38:32] money and uh free time to uh participate

[38:36] in these are well over the age of 60 and

[38:39] it would be my assumption that we are

[38:42] not going to have any problem getting

[38:43] representation from senior citizens or

[38:46] people over the age of 60 and I hesitate

[38:48] to use senior citizens because that

[38:49] includes me uh in that group um my

[38:53] concern is that it's more difficult to

[38:56] get representation from uh high school

[38:58] students and people in their 20s and I

[39:02] think that they have a very valuable

[39:04] perspective that may not be represented

[39:07] by any of these other groups in town and

[39:10] I think it's really important that we

[39:12] include their

[39:14] voice thank you um further speakers to

[39:17] the

[39:18] amendment councelor ganella then

[39:20] councelor Wallis

[39:22] Richmond uh thank you for the um the

[39:24] opportunity to speak on the amendment I

[39:26] just want to have a question to

[39:28] regarding the motion are we now leaving

[39:31] out and one senior representative is

[39:33] that's the intention yes the in Brackets

[39:36] piece would be left out and instead it

[39:38] would say that includes one under 18

[39:40] person and one under 30 person I I sort

[39:44] of in a way I have to uh reject that in

[39:48] my own opinion is for the fact of a bit

[39:50] of aism on that but I do I what I did

[39:53] support was one under 18 specifying then

[39:55] one under 30 I can totally live with but

[39:58] in the sense of just showing a sense of

[40:00] inclusion I have a problem with us

[40:02] suddenly saying you removing that part

[40:04] of the part that's a senior although we

[40:06] do have a high frequency of involvement

[40:09] I just think just as an optical I would

[40:11] I have a problem with that thank you

[40:13] councelor ganella um okay so councelor w

[40:16] Richman you're not speaking on the

[40:18] amendment councelor Flyn did you want to

[40:19] speak on the amendment yeah okay please

[40:21] go ahead I will not support the

[40:23] amendment because I feel we are pigeon H

[40:26] holding and assuming and I randomly

[40:29] picking 30 why wouldn't it be under 40

[40:31] because honestly the 30 to 40 age band

[40:34] probably has similar thoughts so I feel

[40:38] we should stay away from mentioning any

[40:41] age except I agree a student of some age

[40:44] is okay but if they're a 22y old

[40:47] University student that should be fine

[40:49] in my mind so I'm not going to support

[40:51] the the amendment I feel it's too

[40:55] specific um

[40:58] and I don't think it needs to include

[40:59] one senior either because a good chunk

[41:02] of those people councelor lingren is

[41:04] right about a good chunk of those

[41:05] Representatives may be somewhat similar

[41:08] to me with gray hair and some experience

[41:10] so I'm fine with the way the terms of

[41:12] reference are as they said thank you

[41:14] councelor Flynn any other speakers to

[41:16] the amendment councelor lingren I'll let

[41:18] you close unless someone else wants to

[41:20] speak to it councelor lingren go ahead

[41:21] oh oh you pressed twice press again I

[41:24] messed

[41:26] up okay

[41:27] don't touch those buttons councelor

[41:30] lingren please go ahead um so I would

[41:33] based on the feedback I would be willing

[41:34] to change my Amendment so that it just

[41:36] reads one student representative and

[41:40] remove the senior representative okay

[41:42] we're going to vote on this amendment

[41:43] and then if you want to make a different

[41:44] amendment that will be

[41:46] fine do you wish to speak to the

[41:48] Amendments on the floor right now I just

[41:52] did well sort of okay uh any other

[41:55] speakers to the amendment that is on the

[41:57] floor

[42:00] presently okay hearing none I will call

[42:02] the question on the amendment that's on

[42:04] the floor presently all those in

[42:08] favor any

[42:10] opposed okay that Amendment does not

[42:12] pass with councelor lingren in favor the

[42:15] rest opposed are there any further

[42:18] discussions councelor lingren please go

[42:20] ahead I'd like to make another attempt

[42:23] at an amendment to remove the section

[42:26] that says that includes one youth

[42:28] representative and one senior

[42:29] representative and replace it with

[42:32] one do we want student or youth under 25

[42:35] or one student I

[42:37] think okay one student under 25 is that

[42:41] what you'd like it to

[42:42] say sure we'll try that and see what

[42:44] happens is there a seconder to that

[42:46] Amendment councelor Flynn will second

[42:48] the amendment councelor lingren speaking

[42:50] to the amendment yeah I I think that

[42:53] we're going to have a a um adequate or

[42:58] generous a generous uh smattering of

[43:00] senior representation and I don't think

[43:02] that we want to limit the citizens at

[43:05] large to fill that role and so if we

[43:08] include one youth uh specifically that

[43:11] would be an a good perspective to bring

[43:13] in and it's one that we often Overlook

[43:16] and I think on climate change they have

[43:17] a very unique perspective and uh we need

[43:20] to be able to hear their

[43:21] voice okay presently it says that

[43:24] includes one youth representative and

[43:25] one senior representative and your

[43:27] replacing that with one student under 25

[43:30] so my understanding of the amendment

[43:31] councelor Flynn thank you worship I

[43:33] seconded this amendment even though it

[43:36] does say an age but it does say a

[43:37] student and honestly if we only had one

[43:40] student it was 26 that applied I'm

[43:41] pretty sure we would be able to deal

[43:43] with it so I do think a student whether

[43:46] it's high school or early University

[43:49] would provide a perspective that is

[43:52] needed so I can support this thank you

[43:54] councelor Flynn further speakers to the

[43:57] amendment um councelor Wallace Richmond

[44:00] did you want to speak to the amendment

[44:03] yes this one please um I'm I'm sorry uh

[44:07] we're gonna have to vote against this um

[44:10] part of the role of the citizen as large

[44:12] is is people might see themselves um as

[44:16] not being involved in any particular

[44:18] type of

[44:19] organization um with a role to play um

[44:23] in this particular steering committee so

[44:26] I I I don't want to keep it too

[44:28] prescriptive I

[44:30] think we we would like to have a a young

[44:34] person on the committee and we would

[44:36] like to have um a senior on the

[44:39] committee so we might give someone an

[44:41] opportunity who hadn't otherwise uh

[44:44] thought about it to who might have um

[44:47] important concerns about climate change

[44:50] to be able to have a role remember

[44:52] everyone on this committee is playing an

[44:54] advisory role um and represent their

[44:57] group it doesn't matter what age they

[44:59] are or how long they've been doing it um

[45:02] and I think there are plenty of people

[45:05] in the community young and old who would

[45:08] uh be excellent uh representatives and I

[45:11] think we at the very least need to um go

[45:14] out and and and make that known and seek

[45:17] them out and see who who decides to uh

[45:20] put their name forward it at that point

[45:22] I'd be in a better position to decide

[45:23] thank you thank you councelor Wallace

[45:26] Richmond councelor lingren thanks if I

[45:29] may I just want to respond to that um so

[45:32] what I heard there is that we should be

[45:34] less prescriptive which is what I'm

[45:36] aiming for here we would still have

[45:38] three citizens at large two of them

[45:40] would be open to whoever would like to

[45:43] apply uh including seniors including

[45:46] people in their Middle Ages uh male

[45:48] female Multicultural backgrounds

[45:51] whatever it takes and I think that's the

[45:53] goal here is to be less prescriptive

[45:55] about who sits in these seats

[45:57] and opening it up to uh uh a

[46:02] no no guard rails uh one senior is quite

[46:06] prescriptive actually and may limit a

[46:09] 55-year-old from applying who comes with

[46:12] a very interesting perspective or

[46:14] background so I think that it's really

[46:17] important that we take out the senior

[46:18] prescription and leave it open to

[46:21] whoever is

[46:23] interested thank you councelor lingren

[46:25] any other comments on the amend

[46:28] Amendment could I just clarify with the

[46:30] director of engineer and Public Works

[46:32] the three citizens at large when people

[46:35] apply for those positions will those

[46:39] Position will those names come forward

[46:40] to council and Council will select the

[46:43] three that's my understanding yes okay

[46:46] thank you all right any other speakers

[46:48] to the

[46:51] amendment I'll call a question on the

[46:53] amendment all those in favor

[47:00] opposed councelor ganela sir I missed

[47:03] your vote I was for

[47:06] okay uh the amendment does not passed

[47:09] councelor lavry councelor WS Richmond

[47:10] councelor Canada myself

[47:13] opposed is there any other discussion

[47:15] around the

[47:19] motion seean call a question on the main

[47:21] motion as stands all those in favor

[47:27] any

[47:28] opposed that passes unanimously thank

[47:31] you very much thank you to the director

[47:33] of engineering Public Works putting that

[47:35] together for us okay we'll go to item 10

[47:39] introduction of

[47:41] bylaws 10.1 is zoning mment bylaw number

[47:45] 4691 Pacific address 680 10th Street

[47:48] Southwest the owner is G&G Walters the

[47:51] agent is G Gary Arsenal um there's a

[47:55] motion if someone would like to move it

[47:58] to get it on the

[47:59] floor councelor ganella would move

[48:02] it seconded by councelor lavry thank you

[48:06] I'll ask

[48:08] uh hello Miss Pont nice to see you

[48:11] you're gonna speak to this

[48:13] report yes thank you your worship uh the

[48:16] subject property is located at 680 10th

[48:19] Street Southwest south of the Trans

[48:21] Canada Highway and East of 10th Street

[48:23] Southwest and Picadilly Mall the subject

[48:26] property is designated high density

[48:28] residential in the city's official

[48:29] community plan and zoned r10 residential

[48:33] in the zoning bylaw The Proposal is to

[48:35] rezone the parcel from the r10

[48:37] residential Zone to the R5 high density

[48:40] residential Zone this is to allow for

[48:42] construction of a multif family

[48:44] residential development the subject

[48:46] property is located in an appropriate

[48:48] location for high density housing forms

[48:51] as it has good access to Transportation

[48:52] routes recreation parks commercial use

[48:56] use es a library and a post office once

[48:59] Consolidated with the property located

[49:01] at 710 10th Street Southwest the subject

[49:04] property would meet the requirements of

[49:06] the R5 Zone with respect to minimum

[49:08] parcel width and parcel area future

[49:12] development would require a residential

[49:14] development permit at which time site

[49:16] access building massing form and

[49:19] character and Landscaping will be

[49:21] reviewed given that the proposed

[49:23] resoning is consistent with the ocp

[49:25] staff are supportive of the res Zone

[49:27] subject to the conditions of LW

[49:30] consolidation and Ministry of

[49:31] Transportation and Transit approval

[49:34] staff are available should Council have

[49:36] any questions thank you great thank you

[49:38] very much for your summary of your

[49:40] report I'll open it up to counselors for

[49:42] any questions you might have of Miss

[49:44] Pont or if you want to make a

[49:51] comment I see no speakers I'll give you

[49:54] another little minute if you want to

[49:55] think about it

[49:58] okay I see no speakers so I will call a

[50:00] question all those in

[50:04] favor that passes unanimously thank you

[50:06] very much we will go to item 102 which

[50:10] is zoning Amendment bylaw

[50:12] 4689 Civic address is 560 580 610 shop

[50:16] Street

[50:17] Southeast um limited company and the uh

[50:21] uh agent is also the owner there is a

[50:24] proposed motion um to read this first

[50:26] second and third time um if I could have

[50:29] a mover and a seconder councelor Canon

[50:31] would move councelor lry would second uh

[50:34] counc lavry yes with second thank you

[50:37] very much um oh hello Miss Jeffrey

[50:41] welcome you're going to speak to this

[50:43] report yes thank you your worship the

[50:46] subject properties are 560 580 and 610

[50:50] shwap Street Southeast there is

[50:52] currently one single family dwelling on

[50:55] 560 Street and the other two are vacant

[50:59] the properties are designated in the

[51:01] official community plan as high density

[51:03] residential and are zoned

[51:07] r10 the purpose of the zoning Amendment

[51:10] application is to rezone the subject

[51:12] Parcels from r10 to R5 high density

[51:15] residential in order to permit a future

[51:18] multif family residential

[51:20] development staff are supportive of the

[51:22] rezoning should the following conditions

[51:24] be met consolidating of the subject

[51:27] properties uh conduct a traffic impact

[51:31] assessment and Ministry of

[51:33] Transportation

[51:35] approval um could you go to appendix

[51:38] nine

[51:40] please once Consolidated the subject

[51:43] property would satisfy the minimum lot

[51:45] area requirement of R5 Zone staff want

[51:49] to correct information given to the

[51:51] development given at development and

[51:54] planning meeting December 16th 2024 the

[51:58] maximum allowable units permitted with

[52:01] density bonuses would be 46

[52:03] units 36 without

[52:06] bonuses since the proposed resoning

[52:09] aligns with the ocp staff are supportive

[52:12] of the

[52:13] application thank you very much thank

[52:15] you for your summary of your report and

[52:16] for noting that correction counselors

[52:19] I'll open it up to you and know we

[52:20] talked about it at planning but

[52:21] certainly there's opportunity to ask

[52:23] questions or comment here

[52:27] councelor Flynn thank you worship and I

[52:29] support this motion and we'll vote in

[52:31] favor

[52:33] um it's designated RI or uh high density

[52:39] in this area in the ocp and that's

[52:42] because it's close to downtown and we

[52:44] expect people will drive less and things

[52:46] like that the last one which was right

[52:49] near a mall did not have a requirement

[52:51] for traffic impact study and this has

[52:54] many multi

[52:56] um unit developments around it I'm

[52:59] trying to understand does that traffic

[53:02] impact study help us figure out what

[53:06] improvements we need um and why would

[53:09] this one have a traffic impact study

[53:11] when increased traffic is probably

[53:13] similar to the other one thank you for

[53:16] your question I'm director of

[53:17] engineering of Public Works yes your

[53:20] worship so shwap and and fifth is the

[53:22] intersection Fifth Avenue uh has

[53:26] basically been identified as

[53:28] a a weak intersection to say the least

[53:31] and so the the traffic impact study

[53:33] would allow us to determine what impact

[53:36] this development would have on that

[53:37] particular intersection and if they

[53:38] would be required for any improvements

[53:40] and that would be at their

[53:42] cost okay so approximately how much does

[53:45] a traffic impact study cost director of

[53:48] engineering Public Works it it depends

[53:51] on who they get for a consultant I mean

[53:53] I I don't have the pricing I mean it

[53:55] could be 5,00 it could be 10,000 it

[53:57] could be more depending on how in depth

[53:59] they have to go but this is a fairly

[54:00] simple uh impact study okay thank you

[54:04] thank you councelor Flynn councelor

[54:07] labry uh yeah thanks you worship I fully

[54:10] support this we've had discussion out of

[54:12] planning and uh uh this makes uh

[54:15] imminent sense I also want to reiterate

[54:18] how helpful staff uh including the Zone

[54:22] comparison charts are not only for us

[54:25] but I know when people ask me questions

[54:26] about an application and I can refer

[54:29] them to that comparison chart it uh

[54:32] really crystallizes the conversation so

[54:34] I know staff is doing it they're doing

[54:36] it regularly and kudos to them for doing

[54:38] it thank you thank you councelor lavry

[54:41] councelor lingren thanks your worship I

[54:44] just wondered I know the concept designs

[54:46] are rarely exactly what's going to be

[54:48] built but I'm just curious uh if we know

[54:50] anything about what the parking

[54:52] arrangements are going to be for 46 cars

[54:54] on that site

[54:56] thank you councelor lingren you probably

[54:57] know I'm going to remind uh Council this

[54:59] is a resoning application but I will ask

[55:02] Miss Jeffrey if she can comment on on

[55:05] the parking piece thank you your worship

[55:08] um no we do not have um a crystal idea

[55:11] of what the parking is going to look

[55:14] like okay thanks thank you any other

[55:18] comments or questions from

[55:21] Council seeing none I'll call the

[55:24] question first three readings of the

[55:25] rezoning all those in

[55:30] favor that passes unanimously thank you

[55:33] very much Miss Jeffrey for your report

[55:36] we will move to 10.3 which is

[55:38] subdivision and development services

[55:39] Amendment bylaw

[55:42] 4698 um there is a proposed motion if

[55:45] there's a virtual movers and seconders I

[55:47] would accept that moved by councelor

[55:50] Wallis Richmond seconded by councelor

[55:51] lavry thank you councilors um I'll go to

[55:55] the

[55:57] is it Miss smurl or is it director of

[55:58] engineering and Public Works speak into

[56:00] this

[56:01] one director of engineering and public

[56:06] works thank you worship so the

[56:09] subdivision development services bylaw

[56:11] was adopted by Council on June 26 of 23

[56:14] the Vio requires um and regulates the

[56:17] provisions of works and services in

[56:20] respect to the subdivision and

[56:21] development of the land within the city

[56:23] development means the alternative of

[56:25] land

[56:26] by the construction insulation extension

[56:29] and alternative of any building and or

[56:32] structure that requires a building

[56:34] permit the city is required to obtain a

[56:36] building permit for works that fall

[56:38] under the BC building code and therefore

[56:40] the city requires complete the works and

[56:42] services triggered by the subdivision

[56:45] development services bylaw the city

[56:47] prioritizes and completes the upgrades

[56:50] uh to works and services within the city

[56:52] right away on a priority basis to best

[56:54] meet the needs of the community staff

[56:56] believe it is not in the best interest

[56:58] of the taxpayer for the city to complete

[57:01] Frontage upgrades outside the priorities

[57:03] established for the community due to the

[57:05] application of a building permit for

[57:08] institutional

[57:09] infrastructure um staff are requesting

[57:11] the amendment to the subdivision

[57:12] development services bylaw to exempt

[57:15] City properties from the requirements of

[57:17] the subdivision development services

[57:19] bylaw this will per permit Capital work

[57:22] projects to be completed as planned

[57:24] without being forced to under take

[57:26] Frontage upgrades and works that could

[57:29] significantly impact the

[57:31] budgets thank you very much councilors

[57:34] councelor Flynn thank you worship and uh

[57:37] when I read this I found it very

[57:39] interesting and maybe a little bit

[57:41] confusing for me but maybe I can use a

[57:43] specific example and that will help me

[57:46] understand um the new residents at the

[57:51] college created offsite for the college

[57:56] and then we chose to do some

[57:59] offsites and the improvements are

[58:02] amazing and significant and probably

[58:04] were somewhere in our

[58:06] priority is

[58:08] it that we just want the flexibility to

[58:12] decide not to necessarily do those

[58:14] improvements if they're not in a plan

[58:16] already or decide if we want to advance

[58:19] them is that kind of what you're trying

[58:20] to do just give staff some flexibility

[58:23] director of engineering and Public Works

[58:26] yes your worship that's correct um to

[58:28] give another example the the water

[58:30] treatment plant zone 2 Pump Station uh

[58:33] the Water Treatment Plant is a huge

[58:35] Frontage yeah and that project is

[58:37] already you know worth 4 point some

[58:39] million dollars to add the frontage

[58:42] improvements which are in okay shape

[58:45] right now but really need to be planned

[58:46] as a separate project so it gives us

[58:48] some flexibility so I guess it's just a

[58:50] perfect example of some of the times

[58:53] that staff's hands are tied by by loss

[58:56] or by our rules and you're just trying

[58:59] to get a little more flexibility in this

[59:01] rule to actually do the work when it

[59:04] should happen in our overall

[59:06] planning director of engineering and

[59:08] public works that's absolutely correct

[59:10] your worship um we do have a a very

[59:14] extensive Capital Works plan and a lot

[59:17] of times the frontage improvements are

[59:19] planned in in association with other

[59:21] projects and so that's what we'd like to

[59:23] uh to be able to do with this okay well

[59:26] I would personally be very silly to not

[59:28] support staff in this request thank you

[59:31] councelor Flynn councelor

[59:34] lavry uh yeah thanks you worship uh

[59:36] through you to staff so I I get the

[59:39] intent of this and I support it for the

[59:41] most part but I I'm looking for some

[59:44] concrete examples here um in the last

[59:46] two or three years we've probably made

[59:48] strides when there's been some City

[59:51] infrastructure that

[59:54] uh and it may not require building pered

[59:57] I could be corrected on that but some

[59:59] City infrastructure that's added to and

[1:00:02] that we've managed to find ways to put

[1:00:04] an active Transportation or other uh key

[1:00:08] con I'm thinking connectivity

[1:00:10] infrastructure here so how would this

[1:00:16] request factor into some infrastructure

[1:00:20] where there might be

[1:00:21] connectivity uh

[1:00:23] enhancements but essentially

[1:00:26] that not coming in front of council to

[1:00:29] discuss director of engineering Public

[1:00:31] Works your worship I guess I that goes

[1:00:35] with the the

[1:00:36] planning exercises that we go through if

[1:00:39] if and typically this is a building

[1:00:41] permit uh so another example would be

[1:00:44] the um the Fifth Avenue booster or sorry

[1:00:47] the fifth zone five booster station

[1:00:50] along tenth and so that would have been

[1:00:53] a very small Frontage to put in a

[1:00:56] multi-use path a very challenging one um

[1:00:59] so that was also deferred um it doesn't

[1:01:03] mean that it's off the list if we have a

[1:01:05] case where we have a building permit um

[1:01:08] that we could do the works in

[1:01:10] conjunction with an additional Act of

[1:01:11] Transportation Capital project that we

[1:01:13] would we would do that um but really in

[1:01:17] answer to councilor lab's question we

[1:01:20] are looking for the flexibility to defer

[1:01:23] Frontage improvements if we feel that we

[1:01:25] we just either cannot afford them or

[1:01:27] they haven't been um or they're on for a

[1:01:30] different time in the in the plan to be

[1:01:33] constructed councilor

[1:01:35] lry um so these are more comments and

[1:01:38] questions then so I I get the

[1:01:41] intent um and I trust staff to bring

[1:01:44] things forward but I I'm not sure if I

[1:01:47] can support this at this stage unless

[1:01:50] there is some

[1:01:51] language

[1:01:53] about a

[1:01:57] reference to

[1:01:59] council like not an automatic exemption

[1:02:02] but some language about a reference to

[1:02:03] council prior to exemption um I think

[1:02:07] Council needs some control over that and

[1:02:09] I I I don't have the word smithing in

[1:02:11] front of me here to do that so I'm going

[1:02:13] to think about this more a little bit

[1:02:14] you worship if there's any time um but

[1:02:17] if I'm going to oppose it if there's no

[1:02:19] uh and I I rep I understand the

[1:02:22] alternative implications as uh noted in

[1:02:25] the staff report

[1:02:27] but I kind of want this to remain a

[1:02:31] council decision thank you thank you

[1:02:34] councelor labry councelor lingren thanks

[1:02:36] your worship um I have similar thoughts

[1:02:38] I'm just I think curious what would be

[1:02:41] the advantage to this over just coming

[1:02:43] to council for a

[1:02:46] variance director of engineering of

[1:02:48] Public Works your worship I guess it's

[1:02:51] it's about time it's really about time

[1:02:54] and if there was a requirement to do do

[1:02:56] those works if Council defeated it then

[1:02:58] Council would have to put money in the

[1:02:59] budget to do those works and if they

[1:03:01] weren't necessarily budgeted with the

[1:03:03] building permit then it would come from

[1:03:05] somewhere from reserves or gener Revenue

[1:03:08] to to fund that

[1:03:10] project yeah I think go ahead I think

[1:03:13] for me I would rather see the city

[1:03:15] budgeting for those things and coming

[1:03:17] for a variance and we come out ahead in

[1:03:19] the the grand scheme of things there's

[1:03:22] more money than budgeted than we're

[1:03:24] actually going to spend

[1:03:26] um and I I think it's important that uh

[1:03:30] regardless of how good staff is at doing

[1:03:33] this that Council has uh some influence

[1:03:37] because they're here at the table

[1:03:39] representing the views of the people

[1:03:41] that elected us and so I think it's

[1:03:43] important that those views are heard on

[1:03:46] these kinds of issues um I understand

[1:03:50] the issue around timing it can cause

[1:03:54] delays to have to come to Council and

[1:03:56] ask for a variance however I think that

[1:04:02] a lot of the projects that we

[1:04:04] approve

[1:04:06] um they're approved well in advance of

[1:04:10] when the project actually gets started

[1:04:12] and so I'm not sure that that

[1:04:15] is um kind of the deciding factor for me

[1:04:19] so I think I I think I stand opposed at

[1:04:22] this time thank you councelor lingren

[1:04:24] we'll go to councelor Wallace Richman

[1:04:26] next uh your worship thank you uh I'm

[1:04:29] I'm warmed to this idea I I think uh as

[1:04:33] a as a council as staff as a community

[1:04:37] we have some very ambitious plans in

[1:04:39] place Asset Management plans uh

[1:04:43] strategic priority plans ocp plans um

[1:04:48] this is a a the building permit piece is

[1:04:52] is an additional part and I don't

[1:04:56] I think there's an expectation that um

[1:05:00] we've made commitments to get things

[1:05:02] done we've got budgets in place and when

[1:05:04] delays like this happen uh and there's a

[1:05:08] way to avoid them I actually think we

[1:05:11] should we should try it this way and see

[1:05:13] how it works there nothing to be said

[1:05:15] that in a year from now we put the

[1:05:17] breakes on because things didn't get

[1:05:19] done the way they should have got done

[1:05:21] or we missed an opportunity to do

[1:05:23] something we we thought we would but we

[1:05:25] o have to give staff the tools to move

[1:05:28] ahead on on some of the very ambitious

[1:05:31] um uh to-do lists we've given them so

[1:05:34] I'm going to vote in favor and I would

[1:05:37] encourage uh Council to give this um

[1:05:40] take this approach uh to see because we

[1:05:42] all know we've seen delays in projects

[1:05:45] the community really wanted whether we

[1:05:47] had to do the upgrade say for example

[1:05:49] Highway improvements and the West Den

[1:05:51] that sort of thing um and if this is a

[1:05:55] if that was a barrier and this can speed

[1:05:57] things up let's try it and see what

[1:06:00] happens thank you councelor Wallace

[1:06:02] Richmond councelor Canon thank you

[1:06:04] worship I too um support uh this change

[1:06:09] to our bylaw I think the example uh that

[1:06:13] director of engineering gave about the

[1:06:16] pump station and the

[1:06:18] frontage I think I think really what it

[1:06:21] boils down to is that we get our ourself

[1:06:24] caught up in our a bit of bureaucracy

[1:06:27] with projects and moving them forward

[1:06:29] and I think this gives the ability to

[1:06:32] not have our city staff come to us with

[1:06:36] the

[1:06:37] variance instead they can go ahead and

[1:06:41] get the jobs done that we have already

[1:06:44] budgeted in our budget process so we

[1:06:47] know those jobs are getting done and if

[1:06:51] you know there really is a need for that

[1:06:54] Frontage work or whatever to be done I'm

[1:06:57] sure that our staff will recognize that

[1:06:59] and bring that to the table when we do

[1:07:01] our budget process so I'm in favor of

[1:07:04] this thank you councelor Canon councelor

[1:07:07] Flynn yeah I will reiterate my support

[1:07:10] um when we talk about our decision-

[1:07:13] making at this table the budget every

[1:07:15] year includes the capital Works projects

[1:07:18] this motion is saying that if staff

[1:07:20] feels upgrades are needed that will

[1:07:23] probably be part of the budget of that

[1:07:26] project and to me I think we look

[1:07:30] extremely we get looked at extremely

[1:07:33] interestingly by our taxpayers if we're

[1:07:35] having to apply to ourselves for a

[1:07:37] variance um I trust staff to know what

[1:07:41] our priorties are we are part of that

[1:07:42] prioritization of works and to take one

[1:07:47] piece of bureaucracy out I think most

[1:07:49] people would be in favor of that so I

[1:07:51] will vote and support thank you

[1:07:53] councelor Flynn councelor ganella thank

[1:07:55] your warship and through you to possibly

[1:07:58] the um COA the the question I have about

[1:08:02] this because I'm I'm listening to that

[1:08:03] the counselors and I'm on the offence of

[1:08:05] uh uh supporting this but I also

[1:08:09] understand where counselor lavy

[1:08:11] and council lingren is coming from for

[1:08:14] in a sense

[1:08:15] of there's it feels like there's no

[1:08:17] breaks on it and which I'm saying

[1:08:19] anyone's going to do anything um outside

[1:08:21] of the being professional of course um

[1:08:23] is there a way that we can make this

[1:08:25] this we make a motion a friendly Mo

[1:08:28] amendment to give this a a certain time

[1:08:31] as treat it as a pilot project and or a

[1:08:34] pilot you know period where we can say

[1:08:36] does this work and we can just look at

[1:08:39] it not saying so we can have what we

[1:08:40] need want to have approved today but

[1:08:42] also have put a timer on it so you're

[1:08:45] thinking like a a review of some kind

[1:08:48] one year and just see if this is this is

[1:08:50] working as expected I'll pass your

[1:08:52] question on to the chief administrative

[1:08:54] officer

[1:08:56] through your worship yes you can set a

[1:08:58] time limit on it and we can write that

[1:09:01] into the bylaw it would require a bylaw

[1:09:03] Amendment however so we we can do that

[1:09:07] did you wish to make an amendment uh

[1:09:08] councelor ganella I would like to make

[1:09:10] that Amendment thank you okay and um

[1:09:13] what kind of timeline are you thinking

[1:09:14] of for the

[1:09:16] review 12 months okay so that your

[1:09:19] Amendment would be the bylaw entitled

[1:09:22] city of seminar subdivision development

[1:09:23] services Amendment bylaw um be read a

[1:09:25] first second and third time um and

[1:09:28] should the bylaw pass uh be reviewed by

[1:09:31] Council in 12 months exactly what I

[1:09:34] would have said thank you is there a

[1:09:35] seconder to that

[1:09:42] amendment seconded by councelor Wallace

[1:09:44] Richmond I think that's second yes

[1:09:46] councelor ganal do you wish to speak to

[1:09:48] your Amendment yeah yes I um thank you

[1:09:50] for um having the opportunity to speak

[1:09:53] again on this uh again I I feel like

[1:09:55] this is is giving us um supporting staff

[1:09:58] in the direction they would like to go

[1:09:59] but also giving Council an opportunity

[1:10:02] to review this um in a timely manner uh

[1:10:05] I don't think it's too short 12 months

[1:10:06] gives us some time to have a reflection

[1:10:09] and think this if this is the right way

[1:10:10] we want to approach from here on out

[1:10:13] thank you thank you councelor ganal

[1:10:14] councelor lingren did you wish to speak

[1:10:16] to the amendment councelor Flynn did you

[1:10:18] speak to the amendment councelor Canon

[1:10:20] did you wish to speak to the amendment

[1:10:22] okay so councelor lingren I'm just going

[1:10:23] to skip over you and then I'll come back

[1:10:26] if you press your button councelor Flynn

[1:10:28] please go ahead thank you worship and I

[1:10:30] understand the intent of the amendment

[1:10:31] but I will vote against first of all we

[1:10:33] are in these seats for almost another

[1:10:36] two

[1:10:37] years I don't understand why we can't

[1:10:40] give at least two years so I don't like

[1:10:42] the one year and I also um don't think

[1:10:46] there'll be that many projects that this

[1:10:48] will apply to in that year so I am

[1:10:51] against the amendment and again fully

[1:10:53] supported the motion thank thank you

[1:10:55] councelor Flynn councelor Canon to the

[1:10:57] amendment thank you worship I to am

[1:10:59] against the amendment and fully support

[1:11:02] the original uh

[1:11:04] motion any other speakers to the

[1:11:08] amendment seeing none I will call a

[1:11:10] question on the amendment all those in

[1:11:17] favor the amendment fails councelor

[1:11:20] lingren councelor canel and myself in

[1:11:23] favor councelor lavry councelor Wallace

[1:11:24] rich councelor Flynn and councelor Canon

[1:11:27] opposed so we're back to the original

[1:11:29] motion and councelor lingren it's your

[1:11:31] turn to speak yeah I just have a

[1:11:33] question

[1:11:35] about um responsibility in the eyes of

[1:11:38] the public and if um for instance a

[1:11:43] project went

[1:11:45] ahead uh people from the community felt

[1:11:47] that it should have had a sidewalk or a

[1:11:50] multi-use path or some other upgrade

[1:11:54] done and and uh the city didn't complete

[1:11:57] it who who will the public hold

[1:12:00] responsible for that and is that the

[1:12:03] right place for it is that I feel like

[1:12:06] the city will be standing in the firing

[1:12:10] line when it should be us taking the

[1:12:12] heat from the public uh for decisions

[1:12:15] that are

[1:12:16] made uh by the city and so I'm I'm

[1:12:20] curious if anybody has any insight into

[1:12:22] how that could play out

[1:12:26] um don't staff wanted to comment that I

[1:12:29] could I could give you my opinion I

[1:12:31] think my opinion would be that um it

[1:12:34] would come back to council generally we

[1:12:35] get letters from people who are and it's

[1:12:37] easy to Mayor and Council so I think

[1:12:40] that's the way it would

[1:12:41] go right but the council would then be

[1:12:44] being held responsible by the public for

[1:12:47] a decision they aren't making and what

[1:12:49] would be the response from Council we're

[1:12:52] sorry we'll think about doing it

[1:12:53] different next time because we won't be

[1:12:57] and Council would then have to decide

[1:12:58] whether they wanted to fund whatever

[1:13:00] they request from the person who wrote

[1:13:01] the letter was and that would be up to

[1:13:03] them but it wouldn't be coming forward

[1:13:05] to council staff would be making the

[1:13:08] decision yes that's

[1:13:11] correct

[1:13:13] so yeah maybe I didn't explain myself

[1:13:15] very well you're you're right staff

[1:13:17] would make the decision resident would

[1:13:19] write to council Council would say maybe

[1:13:22] we should put that sidewalk in there put

[1:13:24] it next year 's budget or no we think

[1:13:27] staff was right we don't need debt

[1:13:31] sidewalk okay I I see a lot of wasted

[1:13:35] money when we look back and say oh we

[1:13:38] did that project last year let's tear it

[1:13:40] up and put a sidewalk in the time to do

[1:13:42] these works is when it's all torn up to

[1:13:44] do the work in the first place and I

[1:13:46] think that if council is going to be

[1:13:47] held responsible for those decisions

[1:13:49] they should be making those

[1:13:52] decisions okay thank you um other

[1:13:55] speakers councel

[1:13:57] lavry yeah thanks for a second time your

[1:13:59] worship I mean so I think the the uh

[1:14:02] differences are have been well of of

[1:14:05] thought have been well exemplified here

[1:14:07] uh this is not a criticism of staff at

[1:14:10] all um so I one question and another

[1:14:13] comment through you if I remember

[1:14:15] correctly uh

[1:14:18] we

[1:14:20] passed a variance Todo work down at the

[1:14:25] water treatment plant upgrade is that

[1:14:28] correct yes that is correct to Pump

[1:14:30] Station two yeah and threeyear

[1:14:34] worship did the fact of H how long did

[1:14:37] that defer the project by having to go

[1:14:41] through our existing process of coming

[1:14:42] to council to support that

[1:14:45] exemption I I'll pass that on to the

[1:14:48] director of engineering Public Works um

[1:14:51] in regards to time it was more just one

[1:14:53] more step but ultimately it comes down

[1:14:56] to the cost it would have significantly

[1:14:59] increased the cost of that project and

[1:15:01] I'm not sure that uh we would have been

[1:15:03] able to complete it all or got approval

[1:15:06] for the the costs but having said that

[1:15:09] um it could have been included in the

[1:15:11] total works but we're seeing so many

[1:15:14] costs uh escalating over the next or

[1:15:17] over the last year and in future um so

[1:15:20] we are looking at basically doing the

[1:15:22] project if it's a building permit uh

[1:15:25] similar to the zone five doing the

[1:15:27] project and then postponing the frontage

[1:15:30] works for a later date when it can be

[1:15:32] combined with a larger

[1:15:35] project councilor lavry I'll pass it

[1:15:37] back to you yeah no thanks for the

[1:15:39] response to that so

[1:15:41] that in many ways bolsters the point

[1:15:44] that I'm going to make is that I I was

[1:15:46] one I I I can't remember the exact vote

[1:15:48] but I think it was heartily endorsed to

[1:15:51] uh for the city to exempt itself from

[1:15:54] the lications of that work that was done

[1:15:57] and what I'm hearing is it didn't take a

[1:16:00] lot of extra time it was one more step

[1:16:02] and I appreciate that um I would like I

[1:16:07] I would like to know I think that's a

[1:16:08] higher standard than uh essentially what

[1:16:13] the

[1:16:15] proposal uh puts forward I think it's a

[1:16:17] higher standard and at least gives

[1:16:19] Council the review of that this has been

[1:16:21] mentioned before um doesn't signific L

[1:16:25] delay it unless I am missing something

[1:16:28] so uh your worship I um be interested to

[1:16:32] see what the lay it doesn't have to be a

[1:16:34] spreadsheet but the lay of the land is

[1:16:37] in terms of projects that might fall

[1:16:39] into this category and I would move that

[1:16:42] we defer this motion until we get that

[1:16:44] information there second to the deferral

[1:16:47] councelor lingren as there's no

[1:16:50] discussion on deferral we'll call a

[1:16:52] question on the deferral all those in

[1:16:54] favor

[1:16:55] any

[1:17:00] opposed the deferral motion passes

[1:17:02] councelor Canon counselor Flynn are

[1:17:05] opposed we didn't put a timeline on it

[1:17:08] deferral except uh to receive the

[1:17:09] information so we'll leave that with

[1:17:11] staff to bring that back to us Council

[1:17:14] will proceed to

[1:17:17] correspondence

[1:17:19] 348 I think it's time for a comfort

[1:17:22] break let's take five minutes and then

[1:17:25] uh we'll be back here at

[1:17:28] 3:55 I'm optimistic we're going to get

[1:17:31] informational correspondence done in 5

[1:17:33] minutes and we'll be ready for our uh

[1:17:36] friends from the Samar Mar Center at 4

[1:17:53] o'clock

[1:18:23] e e

[1:24:21] regular council meeting of Monday

[1:24:23] February

[1:24:26] 10 just give everybody a chance to get

[1:24:32] settled okay we are at uh section 12 the

[1:24:37] correspondent section we have five

[1:24:39] pieces of informational

[1:24:41] correspondents please uh indicate if you

[1:24:43] wish to speak to any councelor Ken your

[1:24:45] name was up here and I wasn't sure if it

[1:24:47] was about informational correspondent

[1:24:48] press again if you would please thank

[1:24:50] you councelor Canon please go

[1:24:53] ahead so what was the letter from

[1:24:58] sabnis I'm

[1:25:00] [Music]

[1:25:05] requesting about the tower that they're

[1:25:08] I'm writing on behalf of the board blah

[1:25:10] blah blah um safety concerns of the Old

[1:25:13] Tower poses potential safety

[1:25:17] hazard

[1:25:18] and just wanted to support them in this

[1:25:24] so do we need to write a letter of

[1:25:27] support they're asking for money yeah

[1:25:30] would you perhap did you want to hear

[1:25:32] from staff uh could we ask that or yeah

[1:25:35] okay sure um I'm not sure if it would be

[1:25:37] the director of engineering of Public

[1:25:38] Works um or if it Mr jro who wanted to

[1:25:42] speak to

[1:25:45] it yeah think you Council so yeah this

[1:25:47] is uh Sav is asking for assistance to

[1:25:51] remove the the last remaining bird

[1:25:54] platform the one just north of Christmas

[1:25:57] Island I believe their request is

[1:26:00] proposed to contribute 3,000 towards the

[1:26:03] removal um our estimates um are

[1:26:07] estimates but we're guessing about $6 to

[1:26:09] 7,000 in complete cost for moove that

[1:26:11] platform with the city staff okay so I

[1:26:14] think Mr drill I think they're

[1:26:16] suggesting they would contribute 3,000

[1:26:17] that's what you said so you're saying

[1:26:21] that if the council wish to help it

[1:26:23] would be about

[1:26:25] $4,000 um would be the enough money to

[1:26:28] make that happen that would be the

[1:26:29] estimate amount yes okay councilor Canon

[1:26:32] I'll pass back to

[1:26:34] you um I guess I mean I would be willing

[1:26:38] to support them in that perhaps maybe we

[1:26:41] have money out of council

[1:26:44] initiatives okay um if you'd like to

[1:26:46] make a motion to take $4,000 from

[1:26:48] Council initiatives to do this project

[1:26:51] then I would be open to that motion if

[1:26:53] there's a second or okay make that

[1:26:54] motion councelor Flynn will second it do

[1:26:57] you wish to speak to the motion

[1:26:58] councelor Canon no I just think that

[1:27:00] this is something that we wanted uh to

[1:27:03] move ahead on and do so I think it's

[1:27:06] something that we should support thank

[1:27:08] you other speakers to that motion

[1:27:10] councelor um Flynn okay go ahead yeah

[1:27:15] speaking to the motion I support us

[1:27:17] providing up to

[1:27:19] $4,000 I knowing we're doing the budget

[1:27:22] on Wednesday and knowing I don't think

[1:27:24] we spent all our Council initiatives

[1:27:26] last year but I'm not sure I would ask

[1:27:30] the CFO what happens to unspent council

[1:27:34] initiatives in budget do we have the

[1:27:36] opportunity to roll them over and

[1:27:39] accumulate this last year's with this

[1:27:41] year's uh and then the other question I

[1:27:44] have is councelor uh lingren made me

[1:27:46] aware that we supposedly on paper still

[1:27:49] have some money in a Canada 150 fund

[1:27:53] somewhere in the neighborhood of

[1:27:55] $137,000 or not 13

[1:27:57] 37,000 I wish it was 137 and I'm not

[1:28:00] sure if we could use that instead of

[1:28:01] council initiatives so those are my

[1:28:03] questions Chief Financial Officer um

[1:28:06] regarding the council initiatives piece

[1:28:08] and any unused fund from 2024 do they

[1:28:11] roll

[1:28:13] over threee warship the council

[1:28:16] initiatives I've budgeted on a onetime

[1:28:18] line and they do not roll forward into a

[1:28:22] reserve per year and the current

[1:28:24] budget you guys have probably seen

[1:28:26] already is

[1:28:28] $175,000 the reason why I put it as one

[1:28:30] time is because I've reviewed the last

[1:28:31] few years had noticed that it wasn't

[1:28:34] used and I didn't feel like creating one

[1:28:37] more account or Reserve within the our

[1:28:40] long list okay so there's uh you're

[1:28:43] suggesting 17 a half thousand in the

[1:28:46] 2025 budget and coun Canon's motion is

[1:28:49] to uh if she accepted Council LA's

[1:28:51] friendly amendment is up to four ,000

[1:28:55] from that account councilor Canon is

[1:28:57] that correct um yeah I thought it was at

[1:29:00] 4000

[1:29:03] after yeah I think yeah so are you

[1:29:06] comfortable with up to 4,000 okay thank

[1:29:08] you um and the second is comfortable

[1:29:11] with that I am except I'd rather find

[1:29:13] another source if we can't use some of

[1:29:15] last year's so I don't know about this

[1:29:17] 37,000 in the Canada 150 was the second

[1:29:20] part of my question okay I think

[1:29:23] councilor wall Richman might know

[1:29:24] something about that 150 money but I'm

[1:29:27] not positive councelor Wallace Richmond

[1:29:29] maybe I'm thinking of a different

[1:29:31] fund

[1:29:33] um my understanding was we we allocated

[1:29:37] that money those monies last year uh to

[1:29:40] upgrade the corner where the Senate tap

[1:29:46] is so failing failing Clarity on that if

[1:29:50] there is money left in the um

[1:29:55] Council

[1:29:56] initiatives perhaps that's the best

[1:29:58] motion to

[1:29:59] discuss okay um Council Flyn do you wish

[1:30:02] to comment further yeah so the fact

[1:30:05] there is money in Council initiatives

[1:30:07] our brand new 175 that hasn't been

[1:30:09] allocated I am saying as a last resource

[1:30:13] I would support using it now in Council

[1:30:17] initiatives I'd rather carry forward

[1:30:19] from last year if that's possible but it

[1:30:20] doesn't sound like it is or find out

[1:30:23] what happened with this 37,000 in that

[1:30:26] Canada 150 thank you um councelor

[1:30:30] lingren thanks your worship um so this

[1:30:34] came up about uh maybe a month ago

[1:30:37] sabnis brought it to the attention of

[1:30:39] the city because they were looking for

[1:30:41] some assistance to remove the bird beam

[1:30:43] platform it's decrepid and poses a risk

[1:30:46] to safety if uh we end up with teenagers

[1:30:48] out there at a party one night climbing

[1:30:50] it um when they brought the idea to the

[1:30:54] city uh Darren did a costing and told

[1:30:57] them that it would be about $6,000 and

[1:30:59] so the reason they're putting up 3,000

[1:31:01] of their own money is because they

[1:31:02] wanted to make sure that uh they were

[1:31:05] contributing 50% so I have no problem uh

[1:31:09] going with three to $4,000 if we want to

[1:31:11] spend more um I I also think that that

[1:31:15] Canada 150 account is empty and I'm not

[1:31:18] sure why it's showing money uh if

[1:31:20] there's money in it I suggest we spend

[1:31:22] it on this uh there are also other areas

[1:31:25] that I think where we could take the

[1:31:26] money I think that the covid restart

[1:31:28] Grant still has $71,000 in it and we've

[1:31:32] spent more than uh the 3.6 million I

[1:31:37] think already um so the money the

[1:31:39] 71,000 that's in the account is an

[1:31:42] accumulation of interest on paper and

[1:31:45] should be able to be spent on just about

[1:31:47] anything I would think though I think

[1:31:49] that the covid restart Grant would be um

[1:31:52] a usable uh place to get the money from

[1:31:55] for this uh but one way or another I

[1:31:57] support a motion that we uh put up at

[1:32:00] least 50% of the money and help get rid

[1:32:03] of this uh platform so that there's a

[1:32:05] fresh start for the new platform to go

[1:32:07] in and uh this is the appropriate time

[1:32:10] to do it because the equipment's already

[1:32:11] on the foreshore doing the uh sewer main

[1:32:15] or sewer relining or whatever we called

[1:32:18] it down there so I think that that would

[1:32:19] reduce the cost of uh for time

[1:32:23] especially

[1:32:24] great thank you councelor lingren and

[1:32:26] the present motion is to have the monies

[1:32:28] come from Council initiatives councelor

[1:32:33] lavry yeah

[1:32:38] um I think you wish this for me this is

[1:32:41] I'm I'm in favor of the attent of the

[1:32:42] principal up to 4,000 and I can explain

[1:32:46] why at a different time but I think that

[1:32:48] we need uh a I think this is part of the

[1:32:51] the budget discussion I agree with

[1:32:52] councelor Flynn if it's coming out of

[1:32:54] 2025 Council initiatives 25 uh is a last

[1:32:59] resort um I I'm not sure that I want to

[1:33:03] put staff on the spot here of saying

[1:33:05] what about Canada uh you know the the

[1:33:08] Canada Day thing what about uh some of

[1:33:11] the other possible accounts I think that

[1:33:13] we should leave that with them and defer

[1:33:17] this to our budget discussions my second

[1:33:19] deferral of the day your worship

[1:33:22] proposal is that a deferral motion that

[1:33:24] you're making councelor it is is a

[1:33:26] deferral motion to uh to the budget

[1:33:30] process is there a second or to the

[1:33:32] deferral motion councelor Flynn will

[1:33:34] second that motion um there's no

[1:33:36] discussion of deferral all those in

[1:33:39] favor of the

[1:33:42] deferral councelor labry councelor

[1:33:45] Wallace WR and councelor flynner in

[1:33:46] favor the defer motion does not pass

[1:33:49] we'll go back to the table and consider

[1:33:51] the motion which is to contribute up to

[1:33:54] $4,000 from Council initiatives to

[1:33:57] assist sabnis with a removal of uh this

[1:34:00] deck any speakers to that motion

[1:34:04] councelor Flynn I'm going to ask the

[1:34:06] Mover because I believe it was you

[1:34:07] councelor Canon um if we could word the

[1:34:11] motion that up to $4,000 from a fund

[1:34:14] councilor Flynn if you want to amend the

[1:34:16] motion you can try amending the motion

[1:34:18] you don't talk to the Mover about

[1:34:19] amending it that goes through the chair

[1:34:22] I would like to amend the motion

[1:34:24] to change the wording to from Council

[1:34:27] initiatives to from a source to be

[1:34:34] determined that makes the most sense

[1:34:37] councelor Flynn that that would be a

[1:34:38] different motion so I'm sorry I can't

[1:34:40] accept that as an amendment okay I'll

[1:34:42] vote against the motion he councelor

[1:34:44] Canon speaking to the amendment or to

[1:34:46] the motion well I'm very glad that this

[1:34:49] motion didn't get deferred even though

[1:34:51] we couldn't speak about it if it would

[1:34:53] have

[1:34:54] because I think councelor lingren makes

[1:34:56] a really good point we have we will have

[1:34:59] the equipment down there doing work so

[1:35:01] time is of the essence it doesn't need

[1:35:04] to get wrapped up in bureaucracy of

[1:35:07] where the money's coming from I know

[1:35:09] that last at our last council meeting we

[1:35:12] took money from Council initiatives and

[1:35:15] it wasn't talked about that it was out

[1:35:17] of this year's budget and this pot and

[1:35:20] that pot and that was uh to give money

[1:35:22] towards having a celebration party this

[1:35:25] is a very

[1:35:27] important project and we know how much

[1:35:30] that trail gets used so I think this is

[1:35:33] money very well spent and this is an

[1:35:36] important thing to do while we have the

[1:35:38] equipment down

[1:35:41] there hey thank you um further speakers

[1:35:45] councelor lingren thanks your worship um

[1:35:48] I think I asked a question the last time

[1:35:50] I was up and was wondering if the if

[1:35:53] staff could could speak about the covid

[1:35:54] restart Grant and whether or not we can

[1:35:56] take the money from there okay um Chief

[1:36:00] uh Financial

[1:36:02] Officer uh the covid re uh restart money

[1:36:05] is funds are sitting there we've set

[1:36:08] them

[1:36:09] aside for the future trying not to at

[1:36:14] least set a few Pockets here and there

[1:36:16] to be discussed further on budget day

[1:36:18] but those funds are not spoken for at

[1:36:19] this moment thank you Council lingren

[1:36:23] yeah I did see that there was quite a

[1:36:25] bit of that money uh earmarked for

[1:36:27] projects that are going to be completed

[1:36:29] in

[1:36:30] 2025 and after all of those projects are

[1:36:33] funded there's still $71,000 so uh I

[1:36:36] would like to make

[1:36:39] uh Amendment to the pocket of money and

[1:36:42] make it the covid restart Grant rather

[1:36:44] than Council initiatives I will accept

[1:36:46] that Amendment um because it's specific

[1:36:48] is there a second to that Amendment

[1:36:50] councelor Flynn

[1:36:54] discussion around that

[1:36:56] Amendment my discussion will be I'll

[1:36:58] support it I think we those of read the

[1:37:02] budget know all those pockets and we've

[1:37:04] got our eyes on them for this budget

[1:37:06] whether that money comes out of out of

[1:37:08] council initiatives out of that budget

[1:37:10] or any of the other ones at the front of

[1:37:12] that budget don't really make any

[1:37:14] difference because we're going to be

[1:37:16] looking to spend that money um when when

[1:37:18] we have budget discussion here so I

[1:37:20] don't mind supporting the amendment um

[1:37:23] yeah no troubles councelor Flynn did you

[1:37:26] wish to speak to the amendment speak in

[1:37:28] favor of the amendment but did have a

[1:37:29] question related to the amendment um we

[1:37:32] had originally talked about deferral we

[1:37:34] can't discuss deferral in my

[1:37:36] understanding it was for two days till

[1:37:38] the budget process but can I ask staff

[1:37:40] how long the equipment will be there and

[1:37:42] how long we have to get the work done

[1:37:44] because I don't think deferring two days

[1:37:46] would have been an issue sure we we can

[1:37:49] ask the director of engineering Public

[1:37:50] Works uh regarding the the project

[1:37:54] your worship the the foreshore main

[1:37:56] relining is is going to take several

[1:37:59] months to do so they'll be down there

[1:38:01] for a significant amount of time and I

[1:38:03] suspect that it'll be in cooperation

[1:38:04] with City staff as well

[1:38:07] so I will vote in favor of the amendment

[1:38:09] because I don't want to tie our hands on

[1:38:11] Council initiatives especially in what I

[1:38:13] know is going to be a difficult budget

[1:38:14] year so thank you hey thank you

[1:38:17] councelor Flint any other speakers

[1:38:19] counselor labry I don't want to miss you

[1:38:22] out um I think think I think you just

[1:38:24] pressed your you just indicated you wish

[1:38:26] to speak please go ahead it's not on the

[1:38:28] amendment your worship I'll I'll wait

[1:38:30] till after okay any other speakers to

[1:38:33] the

[1:38:33] amendment and the amendment is to change

[1:38:36] the source of where the monies would

[1:38:37] come

[1:38:39] from seeing none I'll call a question

[1:38:41] all those in favor of the

[1:38:45] amendment that passes

[1:38:47] unanimously now the count the motion as

[1:38:50] amended I'll go to councelor lavry First

[1:38:55] uh thank you worship um no I think as

[1:38:57] things have um progressed I I I'll

[1:39:01] support the motion at hand this is I I

[1:39:04] haven't heard anyone at the table here

[1:39:06] talk about the importance the immediacy

[1:39:08] of this the need to flange it up with

[1:39:10] the work that's being done there it's

[1:39:12] really is the source of uh where the

[1:39:15] revenue would come from for from a very

[1:39:17] unique situation I think we need to be

[1:39:20] responsive and I think we can so I'm I

[1:39:22] fully support what's in front of us

[1:39:24] thank

[1:39:24] you thank you any other speakers to the

[1:39:27] motion as

[1:39:30] amended seeing none I'll call a question

[1:39:32] all those in

[1:39:34] favor that passes unanimously thank you

[1:39:37] Council thank you for your assistant

[1:39:38] staff and getting that uh to us other

[1:39:42] items on informational correspondence

[1:39:44] councelor Flynn

[1:39:46] 12.15 can we just pass that on to Mr jro

[1:39:50] or the director of engineering and

[1:39:52] Public Works to work with the

[1:39:53] organization is that all we need at this

[1:39:55] table just check with our chief

[1:39:57] administrative officer we don't need a

[1:39:58] motion to do that do

[1:40:00] we your Worship in the past my

[1:40:03] understanding is that it was referred to

[1:40:04] the rec Society it it was at council's

[1:40:07] table for some time if council's

[1:40:09] comfortable referring it then that's

[1:40:12] completely okay do we need a motion um

[1:40:15] no you can leave it with us okay if

[1:40:18] anyone wants to speak other than that

[1:40:21] please let us know and we can form

[1:40:23] normalize

[1:40:25] that okay I think everybody's satisfied

[1:40:27] with that thank you councelor Flynn

[1:40:29] anyone else wish to speak to

[1:40:30] informational

[1:40:34] correspondence okay I think some of you

[1:40:37] have looked at

[1:40:39] 12.1.3 Mr wier's uh shwap Lifeboat

[1:40:43] Society activities video If you haven't

[1:40:45] seen the video it's worth taking 15

[1:40:47] minutes to watch it it's very well done

[1:40:50] and very

[1:40:51] informative okay I see no other speakers

[1:40:53] to that our guests are

[1:40:57] here hello Christie hi thank you for

[1:41:00] being here please come forward and thank

[1:41:03] you Tracy also you would like a little

[1:41:05] slot at the end right Tracy okay we'll

[1:41:07] make sure we do

[1:41:08] that okay councelor ganella you're going

[1:41:10] to leave at this time aren't you all

[1:41:13] right

[1:41:35] sorry please go ahead thank you for

[1:41:38] coming to and reporting to usks for me

[1:41:42] don't know my

[1:41:43] name

[1:41:47] exor microphone please I'll get closer

[1:41:51] my name is Christy Watson executive

[1:41:53] director of District Arts Council and

[1:41:56] many of you know the Arts Council at the

[1:41:58] Zam Arts Center and I want to start by

[1:42:01] thanking mayor and councel for the

[1:42:03] recent increase to our fee for service

[1:42:06] the stability and capacity that this

[1:42:08] provides will increase our impact on the

[1:42:10] region and will also keep us competitive

[1:42:13] in the provincial and National Grant

[1:42:15] competitions as more and more we're

[1:42:17] seeing funders want to see

[1:42:19] organizational stability um towards

[1:42:28] so I've got lot I want to share with you

[1:42:29] today so I'm going to go through pretty

[1:42:31] quickly so we can leave some time the

[1:42:33] end to go anything with a little more

[1:42:34] detail if so I just want to begin with

[1:42:38] our

[1:42:39] budget if I could interrupt that

[1:42:41] microphone please where it's very hard

[1:42:43] to

[1:42:46] hear sorry about that so our um our

[1:42:49] budget revenues for uh for last year we

[1:42:52] can see

[1:42:54] myass 3,

[1:42:59] 36652 Sal arm uh city of Salmon Arm

[1:43:03] contributions represent about 15% of our

[1:43:05] total revenues our largest source of

[1:43:08] revenues is Project grant funding

[1:43:11] followed by operational

[1:43:14] grants and in expenses we have a balance

[1:43:17] budget this past year most of what we

[1:43:20] spend money on are salaries followed by

[1:43:23] artist fees and program contracts that

[1:43:25] represents what 83% of our budget goes

[1:43:28] directly to people living in and around

[1:43:31] s most so I'm very I'm pleased to be

[1:43:34] able to provide as much economic support

[1:43:37] for

[1:43:39] individuals across all programs our

[1:43:41] total attendance was

[1:43:43] 8,711 and the total artists that were

[1:43:45] engaged for the past

[1:43:55] so our work is uh made possible through

[1:43:57] uh a lot of Partnerships a lot of

[1:43:59] collaboration we're very pleased to

[1:44:00] partner last year sh up IM Services

[1:44:03] Society C sh re sto sh children's

[1:44:07] Society songs barel Hallen theater sh

[1:44:10] theater Society rise up indigenous

[1:44:12] Wellness SC first na B SAR Economic

[1:44:15] Development society and downtown

[1:44:18] s these wonderful organizations and in

[1:44:22] addition support we received from the

[1:44:24] city we are also fed by the BC Arts

[1:44:26] Council BC tourism BC direct access

[1:44:28] gaming BC touring Council sh foundation

[1:44:37] and so we'll start by uh going into our

[1:44:40] programming so that we can see what all

[1:44:42] that looks like starting with the sound

[1:44:45] arm Art Gallery exhibitions for

[1:44:47] 20124 we started last year with a

[1:44:50] exhibition called environments for

[1:44:52] reading

[1:44:53] cozy notes for reading and

[1:44:57] reflection and a large community

[1:45:00] collaboration where a bunch of PODS were

[1:45:02] built that knitting and cting and so so

[1:45:05] together and we um we sold all

[1:45:17] those followed uh foll that show was

[1:45:21] which is a word a

[1:45:24] tree and it featured uh 12 artists

[1:45:27] exploring trees and artistic responses

[1:45:30] to

[1:45:51] that

[1:46:21] e e

[1:47:33] I don't think so because I hear see your

[1:47:35] light so uh councelor lavy councelor

[1:47:38] Wallace Richmond can you hear

[1:47:41] me uh I can hear you I can hear you as

[1:47:45] well sir your worship okay you can hear

[1:47:48] me okay so it's something to do with

[1:47:49] what's going on up there we'll work on

[1:47:51] it we've gone from low sound to no

[1:47:56] sound okay it's not our speaker's fault

[1:47:59] um it must be some technical problem so

[1:48:03] we're working okay just progress it' be

[1:48:05] fine

[1:48:12] thanks anything

[1:48:15] now councelor lavry can you hear him

[1:48:18] now this is me

[1:48:21] talking uh it's it's very very low and I

[1:48:24] got my speakers turned up to the top you

[1:48:25] worship so there's something it's

[1:48:27] something uh electronic there we'll take

[1:48:30] you to we'll take Christie to a

[1:48:31] different mic he's very

[1:48:38] flexible how's that how's

[1:48:42] that how are are you hearing me now oh

[1:48:45] yes we can you comment on the covid-19

[1:48:48] budget the covid-19 budget gez well

[1:48:51] where to begin

[1:48:53] okay please go ahead sorry sorry

[1:48:55] counselors but I think we're okay now

[1:48:58] thanks very much this is very cozy over

[1:48:59] here

[1:49:00] now uh let's see here so we're just

[1:49:02] wrapping up the so the Drag Brunch we've

[1:49:04] been running as part of the lad BR

[1:49:06] celebration for a few years it's

[1:49:08] extremely popular and and wonderful to

[1:49:10] see people of all ages eating together

[1:49:13] sharing laughs and entertainment

[1:49:15] inclusion and

[1:49:17] openness next up is tote theater on the

[1:49:20] edge which is uh a new Initiative for us

[1:49:22] we part it's been going on for the last

[1:49:24] decade run by the shwap theater and we

[1:49:26] partnered with shwab theater last year

[1:49:28] to present tote uh we presented a range

[1:49:30] of really interesting shows including uh

[1:49:34] shipa with Kent and

[1:49:36] Thomas um this show is called it's a

[1:49:39] little scroll down this is June bug by

[1:49:41] uh ragam muffin Theater which is a

[1:49:43] theater for all ages

[1:49:46] show uh we presented a show called Dey

[1:49:49] by a company called uh follow the signs

[1:49:52] theater from Calgary this was written

[1:49:54] and performed by a profoundly deaf

[1:49:55] artist about his experience coming to

[1:49:57] terms with

[1:49:58] that we also presented a show called

[1:50:01] Playing Fields by the chop theater uh

[1:50:04] and we did that show outside at Jackson

[1:50:08] Field and we did a show by runaway Moon

[1:50:11] theater called how did you get here

[1:50:13] which featured four different shows that

[1:50:15] all pop out of a small

[1:50:18] suitcase Wednesday on the warf of course

[1:50:20] takes place as it always does every

[1:50:23] summer uh it's always wonderful to see

[1:50:25] so many people out for this this free

[1:50:28] community Gathering um there's nine

[1:50:30] shows in total I'll just give you a

[1:50:32] couple highlights uh the Kayla Williams

[1:50:35] and the yacht dades yacht rock band

[1:50:37] really brought down the house fantastic

[1:50:40] show and uh we're always very happy to

[1:50:43] to partner with roots and blues for one

[1:50:45] of the shows each Wednesday on the warf

[1:50:47] this one was Bueno rostro which was an

[1:50:49] indigenous Latin uh jazz band

[1:50:53] we were really uh very happy with the

[1:50:55] the turnout for the presentation of a

[1:50:57] band called en Karma which is a bangra

[1:50:59] band we tried something a little bit new

[1:51:01] this year where we made some uh show

[1:51:04] specific flyers for this one in

[1:51:05] particular was uh in English and Punjabi

[1:51:08] and we put extra effort into going to or

[1:51:11] rather astred varns put an extra effort

[1:51:13] into going to um businesses local

[1:51:15] businesses around town with connections

[1:51:16] to the South Asian Community to really

[1:51:18] make sure that the word was getting out

[1:51:20] to everyone and the the turnout was

[1:51:22] really diverse really wonderful and it

[1:51:24] was a great great night we look forward

[1:51:26] to working with them

[1:51:28] again and of course our uh our paow uh

[1:51:31] pilot which was the last event in WoW uh

[1:51:35] was so beautiful so wonderful uh really

[1:51:38] well attended thanks so much to the the

[1:51:40] city for their support of this which we

[1:51:42] hope to make part of wow every year just

[1:51:45] show you a couple quick photos here

[1:51:57] couple of little ancillary things we do

[1:51:58] or maybe not so little this is the big

[1:52:00] yellow tent which we now have up in the

[1:52:02] uh spring summer fall months and people

[1:52:06] can sit here and have a their coffee or

[1:52:09] their lunch or small gathering can be

[1:52:11] held and we're looking for more ways to

[1:52:12] animate this outdoor space we also

[1:52:16] received a grant from the BC Arts found

[1:52:18] Arts um uh British Columbia Arts Council

[1:52:22] to to uh revamp our community art

[1:52:24] collection room so we have lovely

[1:52:25] rolling shelving now so we can really

[1:52:28] invest in that and find ways to make

[1:52:30] that more accessible to our

[1:52:35] community and of course we take every

[1:52:37] opportunity to uh have do arts based

[1:52:40] Community Development works there's just

[1:52:42] a few examples are Truth and

[1:52:43] Reconciliation Day the Earth Day

[1:52:46] celebration featuring runaway moons uh

[1:52:49] weaving project the treat Trail a Switz

[1:52:52] mou story sharing project we're working

[1:52:54] on with Louie Thomas and we've been also

[1:52:57] were had fun working with the Shoop IM

[1:53:00] Services Hive after school program

[1:53:02] bringing some artists to their program

[1:53:04] there's Kenton there on the bottom left

[1:53:05] telling some stories to

[1:53:07] Youth and uh I wanted to also give a

[1:53:10] quick fiveyear solar planel report now

[1:53:12] that we're five years into that project

[1:53:15] which is going really really well just a

[1:53:17] couple just a kind of brief overview for

[1:53:20] average annual production consumption

[1:53:21] and costs

[1:53:23] the uh production of the solar panels is

[1:53:25] approximately 10 megawatt hours per year

[1:53:28] so as a savings that represents about

[1:53:30] four tons of CO2 about approximately

[1:53:34] 60,000 kilometers of driving cost-wise

[1:53:38] that's a savings of

[1:53:40] $1,325 so when compared to the grid

[1:53:42] energy we use every year which is um

[1:53:45] about 8 megawatt hours the cost of that

[1:53:48] is

[1:53:50] $1,110 um the majority of that use is by

[1:53:54] the pottery club's Kiln which we tracked

[1:53:57] over a period of time and discovered

[1:54:00] that that was came to a cost of about

[1:54:02] $975 which the pottery Club is covering

[1:54:05] the cost of as part of their uh rental

[1:54:07] agreement with us so we end up spending

[1:54:10] about $135 a year on energy for the

[1:54:13] entire uh building which is really uh

[1:54:16] fantastic thing so what of course can we

[1:54:19] do with

[1:54:21] $1,325 well at the Arts Center we can do

[1:54:23] a lot and here's a few examples uh we

[1:54:26] can collaborate with rise up indigenous

[1:54:27] Wellness on a mural project for urban

[1:54:29] indigenous youth led by local artists

[1:54:31] and educator Sarah wans or we can

[1:54:35] partner with Sho up children's

[1:54:36] Association to host an eight-week drop

[1:54:38] in break dance series led by Manny

[1:54:40] Christensen or we can work with CMHA to

[1:54:43] present a crosscultural storytelling

[1:54:45] exchange with Kenan Thomas and Donna

[1:54:47] Michelle St Bernard at the CMHA learning

[1:54:50] Studios so we can do an awful lot with a

[1:54:53] small amount of money there and we

[1:54:54] really put it to good use and really

[1:54:56] appreciate all the the support that we

[1:55:00] receive so that's all from me about our

[1:55:03] report I'd like to uh invite Now Tracy

[1:55:06] Kucher up to share a few final words and

[1:55:09] if there's any questions afterwards I'm

[1:55:10] happy to speak to anything in more

[1:55:12] detail thank you very much thank you

[1:55:14] very much Christie and uh Tracy great to

[1:55:16] see you please come forward you guys can

[1:55:18] sit side by side there if you

[1:55:20] like oh look we all

[1:55:27] have welcome Tracy very nice to see you

[1:55:30] thank you and I very much appreciate

[1:55:32] this opportunity to speak to you today

[1:55:34] um I wanted to just have one and a half

[1:55:37] minutes to um to just have um an

[1:55:40] opportunity to thank you really uh the

[1:55:42] first time I stood in front of city

[1:55:44] council Colin ma was in the mayor's

[1:55:46] chair and you mayor Harrison was were a

[1:55:50] city counselor who was fondly referred

[1:55:52] to as the Minister of

[1:55:53] Finance and I do remember that um you

[1:55:58] asked a lot of even long before we

[1:55:59] talked about funding for the Arts Arts

[1:56:01] Council you asked a lot of financial

[1:56:03] questions and I wanted you to know that

[1:56:05] it made me very diligent about counting

[1:56:07] every dollar that came into and went out

[1:56:09] of the Arts Council thank you for that

[1:56:13] um I wanted to uh also remember that

[1:56:16] when Mayor Marty bzma was here um I

[1:56:19] asked him to if he would consider the

[1:56:21] Arts Council becoming the cultural arm

[1:56:23] of city council and he said I thought

[1:56:25] you already were and so from that moment

[1:56:30] I started to look at our relationship uh

[1:56:32] more as a partnership and I I wanted to

[1:56:37] um I wanted to work uh to deliver

[1:56:39] cultural services on your behalf and of

[1:56:41] course um we wanted to reach as many

[1:56:43] citizens as possible year round and

[1:56:46] through a wide variety of accessible

[1:56:47] programs and also take care of that

[1:56:49] incredibly beautiful Heritage building

[1:56:51] and I I believe that we've built trust

[1:56:53] and respect in that partnership over the

[1:56:55] years so throughout the establishment of

[1:56:58] the operating agreement uh through the

[1:57:00] cultural master plan through the pride

[1:57:02] project and many public art projects um

[1:57:06] I felt I have always felt boyed by the

[1:57:08] continued support and enthusiasm by city

[1:57:11] council and Senior staff and especially

[1:57:14] in these last few years uh because we

[1:57:16] are adapting to Rapid change and I fully

[1:57:19] appreciated that so as I now leave the

[1:57:21] organization in a very healthy place um

[1:57:24] I feel like that is in large part due to

[1:57:26] the support of the city of Salon arm and

[1:57:29] of course um I I may see you again it's

[1:57:32] a small town small City Big Ideas um I

[1:57:35] may see you again in another capacity

[1:57:37] but for now I just wanted to say Cooks

[1:57:38] Jem thank you for all the wonderful

[1:57:41] times well thank you very much Tracy

[1:57:44] really appreciate you

[1:57:56] I remember May uh Mayor

[1:57:59] Marty saying that and

[1:58:02] uh you were the arm of the arm of the

[1:58:05] culture of Salmon Arm so you've brought

[1:58:08] that a long ways and we appreciate um we

[1:58:12] appreciate all you've done you're right

[1:58:15] I I do like to watch pennies and dimes

[1:58:17] and nickels but I have to say that I

[1:58:20] think we've had amazing value the

[1:58:22] citizens of Salmon Arm for our the

[1:58:25] monies that we've spent and so thank you

[1:58:27] for that and I can see that carrying

[1:58:29] forward just looking at the report

[1:58:32] today counselors I'm going to open it up

[1:58:34] to you to any uh comments you'd like to

[1:58:36] make either questions or comments to

[1:58:38] Christie or to Tracy we'll start with

[1:58:40] councelor lingren thanks you worship and

[1:58:43] thanks to Tracy and Christie for the

[1:58:45] work that you do in Salmon Arm it's

[1:58:47] incredible um I think that the Arts

[1:58:51] Council has done far more than just

[1:58:53] celebrate art uh in Salmon Arm and if

[1:58:56] your goal was to create um to build

[1:58:59] culture create a safe and diverse space

[1:59:02] and to reach people you've done that and

[1:59:05] so much more um I'm a bit surprised that

[1:59:09] your casual speech there I I think you

[1:59:11] just told us you resigned or you've

[1:59:13] retired perhaps um and you just sort of

[1:59:16] slid that past without any Fanfare so um

[1:59:20] I just want to say that it's been an

[1:59:21] incred experience sitting up here and

[1:59:23] watching the work that you guys do and

[1:59:25] we appreciate all of it and the

[1:59:27] invitations for us to come and

[1:59:30] participate thank you councelor lingren

[1:59:32] councelor Wallace

[1:59:35] Richmond thank you so much and I'm so

[1:59:37] sorry I couldn't be there today to offer

[1:59:40] um a a handshake and more likely a hug

[1:59:45] um I just want to address first my

[1:59:47] comments to Tracy uh Tracy uh the mayor

[1:59:51] said you're the arm and I would actually

[1:59:55] um challenge him I think you're more

[1:59:57] like the heart of of the Arts community

[2:00:01] and the connections that have been built

[2:00:03] um over these many many years um through

[2:00:07] your dedication your kindness your

[2:00:10] belief in in samon arm samon arm is a

[2:00:12] much more connected Place uh uh than

[2:00:17] it's ever been and a lot of that heart

[2:00:20] lives in that building so

[2:00:22] for you and for Eric and for your family

[2:00:25] I mean from from the chief cookie maker

[2:00:28] on uh on down your whole family has put

[2:00:33] your heart into that building um and

[2:00:35] into the programming and you we are so

[2:00:39] profoundly grateful to have had you for

[2:00:42] as long as we did and um you have big

[2:00:45] shoes to fill Christie just so you know

[2:00:48] um and but we will continue to support

[2:00:51] you because we see the model and the

[2:00:53] model works when your District Arts

[2:00:56] Council is partnered with your

[2:00:59] municipality um we accomplish uh goals

[2:01:02] of building a stronger more

[2:01:05] inclusive uh Kinder uh more thoughtful

[2:01:09] uh more beautiful um and a healthier

[2:01:12] community so I'm very grateful for that

[2:01:15] and I and I look forward to what happens

[2:01:18] uh next art um just like heart doesn't

[2:01:22] have a beginning uh middle and an end it

[2:01:24] goes on forever so I'm grateful thank

[2:01:26] you so

[2:01:28] much thank you councelor Wallace

[2:01:30] Richmond and uh I will accept that

[2:01:33] Amendment heart for arm without second

[2:01:36] or much better

[2:01:38] actually my Council sometimes when I

[2:01:41] don't accept the amendment of the

[2:01:42] amendment they're a little curious but

[2:01:43] that one I take Council Flynn thank you

[2:01:47] worship I'm just going to thank uh you

[2:01:49] on behalf of the community and I've

[2:01:51] always joked at this table when I've

[2:01:53] been working beside counselor Wallace

[2:01:55] Richmond that she's been kind of my

[2:01:57] social and artistic Muse or whatever you

[2:02:00] would call her I've learned a lot from

[2:02:02] her but I'm not surprisingly she she

[2:02:06] said what I was going to say and I was

[2:02:07] going to say it in a different way but

[2:02:10] behind every great person like you every

[2:02:14] great woman is a good guy and I think of

[2:02:17] you guys and your

[2:02:20] family it's been the team and I thank

[2:02:24] you thank him and uh I'm not quite known

[2:02:28] as the finance guy like the mayor is but

[2:02:32] I would say there's not many

[2:02:35] organizations where we get as a

[2:02:36] community more value for the dollars we

[2:02:41] contribute thank you councelor Flynn

[2:02:43] councelor

[2:02:47] lavry yes thanks your worship uh Tracy

[2:02:49] thanks so much I uh I I'm just going to

[2:02:51] Echo what others have said and thank you

[2:02:54] um not only the arm and the heart but

[2:02:56] the mind as well um you have uh provided

[2:03:00] Direction uh you've managed from the

[2:03:03] middle and uh taken us forward so Tracy

[2:03:06] thank you for that I I just uh you know

[2:03:09] we're all struck by the developments uh

[2:03:12] in recent days and weeks here and how

[2:03:17] your not only dedication but injecting

[2:03:21] the importance of

[2:03:23] inclusivity of

[2:03:24] equity of uh embracing a range of our

[2:03:29] citizens um is becoming more and more

[2:03:32] important as as we go forward here and

[2:03:35] given

[2:03:37] the the impending dark clouds that that

[2:03:40] are that are happening in places so I I

[2:03:42] want to thank you for that leadership I

[2:03:44] know you'll continue on that in the

[2:03:46] community and uh I'm very grateful that

[2:03:49] uh you've provided that leadership so

[2:03:52] Tracy thank you very much for that to

[2:03:55] chrisy thanks for your report I just

[2:03:57] want to comment a little bit on the

[2:03:58] solar project I I know I have been

[2:04:00] talking I'm not sure if that came

[2:04:01] independently i' had asked Tracy it

[2:04:03] would be good to hear an update about

[2:04:05] that mainly because we spend all sorts

[2:04:08] of money and decisions on infrastructure

[2:04:10] some of it harder most of it underground

[2:04:14] most of it you can't see most of it it's

[2:04:17] really hard to determine the ROI of a

[2:04:20] project but to get this 5-year report

[2:04:23] where uh once taken off the money

[2:04:26] generated from the solar and taken off

[2:04:29] the power the pottery Club Kiln

[2:04:33] $135 a year for

[2:04:36] electricity based on the solar panel

[2:04:39] install that was done five years ago it

[2:04:41] doesn't get better than that and I just

[2:04:43] want to uh from a uh a council position

[2:04:46] say that these it's not only a good news

[2:04:49] story but it's great to get those

[2:04:50] numbers over time

[2:04:52] for some of the softer infrastructure

[2:04:54] that we do so thanks for providing that

[2:04:56] as well Christie look forward to uh big

[2:04:59] shoes to fill I'm sure you will fill

[2:05:01] them and uh look forward down the line

[2:05:03] thank you very

[2:05:04] much thank

[2:05:07] you okay councelor Flynn yeah um now

[2:05:11] moving to Christie's presentation thank

[2:05:13] you was really good um very detailed

[2:05:16] very succinct and I do want to say that

[2:05:19] um in my mind the decision by astred

[2:05:23] andu or whoever made it to have specific

[2:05:27] advertising for um one of the Bands uh

[2:05:32] we have one of the biggest fundraising

[2:05:33] events coming up Bollywood um

[2:05:37] and one of the biggest changes I've seen

[2:05:40] in our community is our diversification

[2:05:43] and well that it's not diversification

[2:05:45] wrong word but you know what I mean um

[2:05:48] but just we're a totally different I've

[2:05:49] been here for 20 years and we are a to

[2:05:51] totally different community and a lot of

[2:05:53] that is because of Tracy and her team

[2:05:56] and I'm quite confident based on your

[2:05:58] presentation and what you've done thus

[2:05:59] far that you're going to continue that

[2:06:01] but I think that was a good decision to

[2:06:03] have that specific piece because our

[2:06:07] community has changed so much and uh is

[2:06:10] much more diverse so thank you thank you

[2:06:14] councelor

[2:06:16] Flynn I think everyone's had their turn

[2:06:19] thank you Christie for your report I

[2:06:21] really appreciate it appreciate the time

[2:06:23] you put in and pictures tell all the

[2:06:25] words so thank you Tracy we will see you

[2:06:34] both we can invite councelor ganella

[2:06:37] back in for Council

[2:06:43] statements your worship councelor

[2:06:45] ganella has left okay great s like Elvis

[2:06:52] Council statements counselors does

[2:06:54] anyone have a statement uh councelor

[2:06:56] Wallace Richmond first please go

[2:06:59] ahead thank you uh I just wanted to give

[2:07:02] you a brief update on silga as you know

[2:07:06] uh the resolutions are wrapping up on

[2:07:10] February 15th the community excellence

[2:07:13] awards have been uh submitted for

[2:07:16] consideration uh there's a very exciting

[2:07:19] convention uh planned for merit if

[2:07:21] you've not spent a few days there I

[2:07:23] encourage everyone um to go the focus

[2:07:27] will be on economic and uh Community

[2:07:30] Development and we have an amazing um uh

[2:07:34] keynote speaker from the group small

[2:07:36] towns which is Making Waves all over

[2:07:38] North America um we've

[2:07:41] also working through a transition from

[2:07:45] Alison Slater who's been with sua for

[2:07:47] many years to Karen devise and that

[2:07:50] piece is going very well and and Karen

[2:07:52] is from Salon arm and we're working

[2:07:54] together regularly um to get all that

[2:07:57] training happening so it's a very

[2:07:59] exciting time for silga on the ubcm

[2:08:02] front the

[2:08:03] executive uh meeting happens um in next

[2:08:08] week in Vancouver I will be attending

[2:08:10] and I I'm on the seminar me or sorry

[2:08:13] their um economic and Community

[2:08:16] Development Committee as well as the

[2:08:18] convention committee and then an fcm um

[2:08:22] a regional or fcm board meeting is

[2:08:25] happening in dval in March very packed

[2:08:29] agenda um and I'm sure it won't surprise

[2:08:33] you to know that there's been a lot of

[2:08:34] work on the US tariff situation there

[2:08:37] was a big meeting with

[2:08:39] the government ministers the Prime

[2:08:42] Minister and big city caucus Mayors just

[2:08:46] last Thursday and they're beginning a

[2:08:49] series of Roundtable conversations with

[2:08:51] with all the provincial and um uh

[2:08:56] territorial Association uh caucuses

[2:08:59] that'll be happening uh also at the end

[2:09:02] of next week um and so once budget is

[2:09:05] done I'll I'll continue to focus on on

[2:09:08] that piece and I think it's really

[2:09:09] important for all of us to be at the

[2:09:11] table so if there's any you want me to

[2:09:13] raise on our behalf or on our Region's

[2:09:15] behalf please um you know where to find

[2:09:18] me and I'm very grateful thank you

[2:09:21] thank you councelor Wallace Richmond

[2:09:23] thank you for the work you do on both

[2:09:24] silga and ubcm looking forward to silga

[2:09:27] in Merit this year um we will go to

[2:09:30] councelor lingren for Council statements

[2:09:32] thanks you worship uh moving from the

[2:09:34] national stage to the local stage uh

[2:09:37] just a little bit of an update from

[2:09:39] sabnis uh hopefully you've all had a

[2:09:41] chance to look at the model of the new

[2:09:43] uh Eric Christmas Memorial boardwalk and

[2:09:45] birdine platform that's now located in

[2:09:47] the front lobby of city hall for the

[2:09:49] next week or so um

[2:09:52] designed and built by autof fmid and

[2:09:55] safely encased by Quinton lingren um so

[2:09:58] take a look and uh hopefully the

[2:10:01] community we wanted it here uh during

[2:10:03] the week when everybody was coming in to

[2:10:04] pay their utility bills and hopefully

[2:10:06] there's they have a little few dollars

[2:10:08] left over at the end and the information

[2:10:10] on how to donate to that project is on

[2:10:12] the cards that are located on the table

[2:10:15] uh the other uh report is from the

[2:10:18] environmental advisory committee uh last

[2:10:20] week we we had a really amazing

[2:10:22] presentation from am and Singh uh from

[2:10:26] home zero which is a nonprofit

[2:10:28] organization in Veron uh they gave us a

[2:10:31] a really um interesting presentation on

[2:10:34] this broads scope approach that they've

[2:10:36] taken to retrofitting older homes to

[2:10:38] reduce greenhous gases uh it's making uh

[2:10:41] an impact already it they've only done

[2:10:44] 11 homes as part of their pilot project

[2:10:46] in Vernon but it's already making an

[2:10:48] impact on reducing greenhouse gases and

[2:10:50] helping the city Vernon reduce or reach

[2:10:53] their

[2:10:54] um uh Greenhouse reduction targets um

[2:10:59] they're in the middle of expanding to a

[2:11:02] 100 homes and they will probably be

[2:11:05] submitting a letter to us in the near

[2:11:07] future asking us to um support their um

[2:11:10] application to fcm for uh additional

[2:11:13] funding for that project and I hope that

[2:11:16] at some point in the future they make a

[2:11:18] request to come and speak to council I

[2:11:19] think that you'll be really impressed

[2:11:20] with the scope of their

[2:11:23] project thank you very much councelor

[2:11:25] lingren and thank you to you and to

[2:11:27] Quinton for uh for making that available

[2:11:31] um to us the the new Eric Christmas

[2:11:34] Boardwalk it's

[2:11:35] exciting any other Council

[2:11:39] statements councelor lavry please go

[2:11:41] ahead yes thanks your worship um this is

[2:11:44] sort of uh in previous meetings and

[2:11:47] today as well uh just a reflection it's

[2:11:49] a statement but it's a reflection as

[2:11:51] well um I think more and more Community

[2:11:56] groups uh they're looking to funders

[2:11:58] local governments The Province the feds

[2:12:01] to um help support them in the good work

[2:12:04] they do and I think that's getting

[2:12:06] Tighter and Tighter for them to do it so

[2:12:07] therefore they're reaching out more and

[2:12:09] more for money and what has become clear

[2:12:12] to me especially at the regional

[2:12:14] district is that higher levels of

[2:12:16] government are now and I think they're

[2:12:20] doing it way too early without enough

[2:12:22] support but are mandating that Community

[2:12:27] organizations have Asset Management

[2:12:30] plans in place now I personally think

[2:12:34] that's a leap too far for a small

[2:12:35] community organization to do that but I

[2:12:39] think that there's a need and I'm just

[2:12:40] going to float this idea out here I

[2:12:42] don't know how to actualize it at all

[2:12:44] but there's a need for us to be figuring

[2:12:47] out a way of how we can partner to

[2:12:50] support community organizations in

[2:12:52] starting that asset management process

[2:12:55] as we are starting to do it as well so

[2:12:59] that you don't build something 20 years

[2:13:02] later it's falling down and then you're

[2:13:04] starting from Ground Zero literally in

[2:13:06] some cases to actually get it up and get

[2:13:09] it going and and and recover so I think

[2:13:12] it's uh uh I I'll bring this forward I

[2:13:13] like maybe uh other counselors we could

[2:13:16] uh work on some ideas on that but I do

[2:13:18] think that and and perhaps there's some

[2:13:21] training out there that I'm not aware of

[2:13:23] but I think it' be advantageous for all

[2:13:25] of us to put our heads together to uh

[2:13:28] start some Community

[2:13:32] organization uh process where groups can

[2:13:35] start to get their heads be introduced

[2:13:37] to and get their heads around Asset

[2:13:38] Management thank

[2:13:40] you thank you very much councelor lavy

[2:13:43] are there any other statements from

[2:13:44] counselers

[2:13:46] today thank you thank you for all of

[2:13:48] your work I know that you're all working

[2:13:50] hard on your committees out there and in

[2:13:52] the community okay we will go

[2:13:55] to question and answer

[2:13:58] period is there anyone who has a

[2:14:00] question that they like to ask Council

[2:14:02] either virtually or in person

[2:14:06] here okay seeing none um I'll accept a

[2:14:11] motion to return to in camera councelor

[2:14:14] lingren counc Canon thank you all those

[2:14:17] in favor

Regular Council Meeting

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