[0:00] And we can start with the pledge of allegiance.

[0:19] And now I'll turn to the secretary and we can do the roll call. Mary Adler. Present. Michael Arbach. Present. Allison Chang. Here. I know Estilia. Here. James Ganner. Here. Arrella, who is our. Jedadayakoon is delayed. Alex Madrid. Who? Max Motner is delayed. David Rabinovich. Present. Kathleen Rubens. Here.

[0:51] We can move on to item number 4, which is the approval of the meeting minutes from our August 26 meeting and do we have any committee discussion on the item.

[1:16] All right.

[1:16] Do we have any public comments on the item?

[1:18] There are no public comments.

[1:19] All right.

[1:19] Do I have a motion?

[1:20] Motion.

[1:21] Do I have a second?

[1:23] Very good.

[1:24] All right.

[1:25] Motion and I'll say second from Member Midrune.

[1:29] Through the chair.

[1:30] This will have to be a roll call vote.

[1:32] Okay.

[1:34] Adler.

[1:35] Aye.

[1:36] Arbok.

[1:37] Aye.

[1:38] Chang.

[1:39] Aye.

[1:41] Esliya.

[1:42] Aye.

[1:42] Anna.

[1:43] Aye.

[1:56] Alright, thank you. Moving on to item number five, which is a presentation on the Reimagined Umbarten project.

[2:24] Oh, sorry, is the microphone on.

[2:26] Thank you.

[2:28] Sorry about that.

[2:30] The agenda for this presentation will be a project overview.

[2:34] A recap of our engagement phase one.

[2:37] Proposed project design alternatives on the corridor and then ways for our public.

[2:44] And you all to provide input on next steps.

[2:48] So quick project overview.

[2:50] This is our five mile.

[2:54] Dumbarton corridor on the peninsula side.

[2:57] It's run from University Avenue and East Palo Alto all the way to middlefield Avenue and north for our oaks.

[3:03] It's currently an abandoned rail line that we hope to take to the next level.

[3:15] Why reimagine Dumbarton, Dumbarton?

[3:18] We want to reconnect communities, creating really, here's a chance to create walk in and

[3:23] and bicycling connections to improve access.

[3:26] We really want to provide faster, reliable transit.

[3:29] We've seen even faster times in vehicle travel

[3:32] to give one from one place to the other on the corridor.

[3:36] We want to incorporate active transportation

[3:38] that being pedestrian and bicycle access.

[3:43] And then we want to respond to changing travel needs.

[3:46] Just recent and future developments

[3:48] while preserving the flexibility

[3:50] of a rail project in the future.

[3:52] So this project is not precluded in any way well on this corridor.

[4:00] This slide was a video, a three minute video, but unfortunately we're not able to play it today.

[4:06] I will love for our community to go to our website that I'll have on our last slide.

[4:13] That has the video of overview, great illustration of what the possibilities are for this corridor.

[4:18] for, again, it's a dedicated busway with nine new stations on the corridor.

[4:24] We have paved trail between Bay Trail and University Avenue all the way to Midafield.

[5:00] And four access points on the south.

[5:05] Our community engagement phase one, this was back late November to December. We had 11 pop-up events. We had two great community meetings and the steady area. We had a great response to our survey over 1,000 responses from the public and 15 road show presentations for throughout.

[5:31] the community.

[5:34] What we heard from the community, we wanted better connections, particularly getting to

[5:40] CalTrain and Bart and the East Bay. Increased transit access to more places, improvements to transit

[5:48] speed and reliability, and new opportunities for biking and walking on the corridor. Existing corridor,

[5:57] the existing corridor currently sits as a barrier for the community is what a lot of the feedback was

[6:02] as well. And we also got plenty of questions related to noise and privacy after such a project

[6:09] is built.

[6:12] Proposed project design alternatives. These are our initial alternatives on what

[6:16] we think this corridor can look like. As of now, the left picture is the part of the corridor

[6:25] that's double tracked and the right picture is where it's single tracked. Even though the

[6:30] The picture on the left looks like it's currently in use.

[6:33] There has been no real traffic on the corridor whatsoever.

[6:38] Right now, our design alternatives are at the mid-block sections to have a parallel running

[6:45] corridor for the buses with buffers of some sort of landscaping on each end with a 20-foot

[6:54] multi-use pass on the south end of the corridor.

[6:59] At the station level, we have in stations on both the left and right side of the corridor with a middle lane for passing buses.

[7:11] We're also imagining different types of services also being offered.

[7:17] We're thinking of, for instance, the Dunbarton Express right now.

[7:22] And as far as other like the EEPX will also have a chance to run in those corridors.

[7:28] and that's the reason for the middle, middle passing lane,

[7:31] while also retaining the 20-foot multi-use pass.

[7:38] Right now, we have identified nine stations.

[7:42] The travel time from university all the way to

[7:45] middle field right now is at 13 minutes.

[7:50] The stations are separated by a minimum of half-mile of each.

[7:55] There's a section where it's a little narrower

[7:59] on the corridor and the station access would be primarily blocking by

[8:05] clean and micro mobility. There will be no parking vehicle parking available at

[8:10] any of the stations.

[8:14] Active transportation improvements. Right now we're looking at

[8:16] at a continuous four mile walk in a bicycle trail that would also connect to the

[8:21] bay trail. Currently we're estimated estimated about a thousand daily users on the

[8:29] corridor. We looked at the iron horse trail and West Lake. A trail that's proportionally

[8:38] a section of that's proportionate to the size of our corridor and we based it off of

[8:44] that usage to get our numbers. We're also looking at faster bicycle trips and access

[8:51] for all.

[8:53] This is a great picture of what a station would look like with an overview of the

[8:58] bus stopping at the station and the view was a mixed used trail.

[9:06] This is our 101 crossing.

[9:09] The left picture is what it currently looks like.

[9:11] It's a really, really bad condition existing bridge that's out there right now.

[9:17] It's covered in graffiti and trash.

[9:20] What we're imagining right now is on your right side.

[9:24] It would be a dual lane bus only lane and then another side, the right side being the 20 foot multi use path for pedestrian and by school use as well.

[9:42] Again, these are the 15 access points that were identified so far.

[9:47] I think through this process will be identifying more access points as we start talking to more and more with local jurisdictions.

[9:55] I know, for instance, we've talked to Menlo Park, City Council, and they've

[10:00] We might be interested in looking at. We're looking for opportunities for small recreational areas, as well, along these along the corridor that would also include some sort of green space. This is what we're looking at right now as far as potential recreational opportunities. They're all marked by the green little tree right there on the on the corridor. And we're also through this outreach. We're asking the community, we're asking everyone, what would you like to see?

[10:29] out there. So we have options that folks can pick and give us their input on what they

[10:36] really want to see. We're thinking of fitness and exercise locations, playgrounds, gathering

[10:43] spaces and even dog parks on the corridor.

[10:49] Next steps and then getting involved. So right

[10:52] now we're on phase two. We're at the 2006 fall. We're doing our phase two engagement right

[10:59] right now we're going through even more pop-ups, again, community meetings, city council meetings

[11:06] to just let them know where we're at and what we've heard so far.

[11:10] The bottom is a long-term picture right now.

[11:13] I want to remind everyone this is just a feasibility study.

[11:16] We're studying the feasibility of such a project giving existing or the possibility of existing.

[11:22] Once we were estimating completion around January, February of 2007 with an approved project

[11:30] to move forward by our board, we would move to the environmental study and preliminary

[11:35] design and engineering phase of the project.

[11:38] That would be followed by the final design phase in 29 to 30 and we're looking right now

[11:44] rough estimates of construction begin in 2031 if all goes well.

[11:50] This is our slide with our QR code.

[11:56] We're asking everyone to please scan the QR code,

[12:01] go to our website, give us any feedback,

[12:05] all the feedback you can possibly think of to get us

[12:11] in the right direction to sort of get

[12:13] in this project to the finish line.

[12:17] With that being said, I'm going to leave it on this slide

[12:20] and I'll be happy to take any questions from the committee.

[12:25] Thank you very much for the presentation.

[12:26] Before we do questions, do we have any public comment on the item?

[12:29] There are no public comments.

[12:30] All right, thank you.

[12:31] Then yeah, I'll turn it over to the committee members who has a yes, member of a benefit.

[12:37] First of all, I want to thank you for the presentation.

[12:40] It was very well done.

[12:42] I'm going to follow this with a lot of critical thoughts from the presentation.

[12:49] I do want to say that you did a great job and the entire team has done a great job.

[12:56] We received a similar presentation on this project about a year or two ago and we were

[13:03] told that a priority is to keep the rail line in place, to keep space for it.

[13:10] None of the renders you showed us, none of the diagrams have the rail line in place.

[13:16] Now, you are correct when you mentioned that the rail line is not used apart from

[13:23] CalTrain, Occasionally Story, and Vehicles there, etc.

[13:27] But the rail line was purchased by Sam Trins, so it could be used again as a rail line.

[13:33] Fortunately, the rail bridge burned down partially about 20-30 years ago, but there was a project

[13:42] with Metta, a company, Metta Facebook company that is along that quarter and they wanted

[13:48] to help rebuild the bridge and bring rail service back. They pulled out of the project

[13:53] because of the pandemic obviously they aren't bringing employees to work so why should

[14:00] they fund a way to bring employees to work. But I think it would be easy for everyone to

[14:07] agree that the world in 2020 is much more different than in 2026, even in terms of

[14:15] committing patterns and traffic when this project was in its like very early

[14:20] stages for a busway 2022-2023 traffic was much more different. I think if Sam

[14:29] transports go to the table with Meta or other companies again and say we want

[14:34] to bring rail service, there could be potential for a new partnership.

[14:43] This is an important rail corridor in general.

[14:46] Unfortunately, it was shut down decades ago, but there have been plans, especially for

[14:52] other rail lines on the East Bay, to use that corridor if it were to ever be built.

[14:58] Oh, um...

[15:00] Purchase by the, or the tracks were purchased by the joint powers board with the help of CalTrans, who captured rail service running on the CalTrain line with southern Pacific, the old operator of both rail lines, the Dunbarton quarter and CalTrain, wanted to shut it down. Imagine if that happened and CalTrain would be shut down, like that would be terrible.

[15:25] Bar doesn't go to the North Bay or

[15:29] for many years didn't go to San Mateo County, and now it's very hard to extend further down

[15:34] because when there was an opportunity to build rail service, the opportunity wasn't taken.

[15:41] I think a busway would be great, but the diagrams you showed us with what the community wants is not more bus service.

[15:50] I think I've taken buses there. They run very fast, very smoothly.

[15:53] I think a bike show that there would be great community spaces, there would be great.

[15:59] But I don't think those are good reasons to fully pave over the old rail line and remove

[16:06] any potential for rail service in the future.

[16:09] Think if Sam trans builds this, they are going to regret it in 10, 20 years, very much.

[16:17] I do want to say thank you for the presentation, you guys did a great job, I just don't believe

[16:23] if this is the right project for San Frans.

[16:28] Thank you.

[16:29] Member Midrune.

[16:32] Thank you for your first suggestion.

[16:36] Two questions.

[16:39] One is that I had decided some community members suggested

[16:47] the parks and exercises places along the city.

[16:55] five or two months of work, have you guys been to different office spaces like Good Highway

[17:13] or go to the park where they sat down the street and see what it looked like and what the issue would be and what this might be learning issues that we can learn from that.

[17:43] But that's one and the second thing is that with the trucks,

[17:54] I am like what my colleague

[17:59] said.

[18:00] We've been told that the truck would not touch but so my question is how do you guys

[18:13] think about having a car train or utilize the train tracks. Possibly extending, use it

[18:28] less to tracks.

[18:35] I didn't quite understand. So I can. I can paraphrase. The first question

[18:43] is have you look into other places that have offered green areas?

[18:48] As an example, that you can incorporate those experiences or ideas into the project since we are going to have green areas and playgrounds and bicyclists, lanes of traffic or any of those features.

[19:05] Okay, great question.

[19:07] Yes, we actually, we did talk to LA Metro.

[19:12] They were one of the agencies that right off the bat told us to really, really try to

[19:19] provide as much landscape as possible.

[19:22] You can't just really have concrete out there and call it a day.

[19:26] I think that was a great feedback from the initial start.

[19:29] Another chance we got to go down to Monterey and visit with them and they're doing a project

[19:35] called the surf project was basically sort of the same thing, but they are keeping the

[19:40] tracks along the corridor.

[19:44] And we got to see how they're kind of also intermingling the pedestrian access and actually

[19:51] extending and connecting other regional trails with their project.

[19:57] and that's the hope also with our project.

[20:00] Final link to the Bay Trail as being an important aspect of the project. And also the trail that we're proposing with this project has been identified with plan. I believe this Bay Plan, or the 2050, the original Bay Plan has been identified in there as well as a, as a category 4 level 4.

[20:28] for a proposed future by pedestrian.

[20:33] I mentioned about San Francisco,

[20:37] Green Highway and San Francisco,

[20:42] Globbinger Park, which, as you know,

[20:48] they shot down the whole area for people

[20:53] to work on and do some activities, how do you consider taking them out?

[21:05] We haven't yet, but that's a great point.

[21:07] That's something that we can definitely look into.

[21:09] We haven't thought of it that far in advance, but that's a great comment for us to take back

[21:16] and talk with our internal team and to look at it, for sure.

[21:21] The second point I had was to neutralize the train tracks.

[21:29] I know that my colleague mentioned that we've been told that,

[21:35] that we have been told that they're not going to touch the tracks.

[21:47] So what can you expand on what changed the only way I can expand right now my

[22:00] understanding is that UP railroad has trackage rights on the corridor there the

[22:07] agreement that would be between Sam trans and UP would be some sort of lane

[22:12] banking process that has been done in other parts of the country.

[22:16] That being said, the agreement would be strictly saying that, if any future date, UP

[22:23] deems the corridor that we need to put REL in there, then our project has to assist,

[22:29] you know, stop and let UP do their thing with bringing in REL.

[22:33] So that's why we're careful to say that this project can no reason whatsoever, wherever

[22:38] preclude REL.

[22:41] Even though the tracks will be disappearing.

[22:47] Hi, Charles Lee Chang, Government and Community Affairs Officer.

[22:50] To remember a bit of itch's question, we are looking into what's called rail banking,

[22:54] so it's a voluntary agreement with the agency, and it's happened in other places throughout

[23:00] the country where it's a voluntary agreement where you can convert to trail from the unused

[23:06] rail to trail, and then if they need to use it, then we could look into converting it back.

[23:12] So, it is a law I think that's been in place since the 80s.

[23:18] I have a few clarifying questions.

[23:21] The first one are there scenarios where the rail returns in those rail bank areas.

[23:28] The second one on the comment that there's an agreement with Union Pacific for the project to stop construction.

[23:33] If they deem it necessary in the next few years.

[23:36] what if union-specific themes that area necessary in 2034, when the bus was there,

[23:43] the same trends have to tear up the bus way to put tracks back in.

[23:47] So that's something that we would be working with UP on in the discussions,

[23:51] and that's kind of far out, but we hear your concerns, and we are going to continue

[23:56] talking to UP about the different issues.

[24:03] Oh, yeah, I just wanted to build on that real quick.

[24:05] Do you think, so it kind of sounds like the multi-use path is the thing that would get ripped out,

[24:10] If we did want to go back to having the rail there, but it does seem like there's a lot of the like the planting strip on one side is 23 feet wide and then there's a 15 foot planting strip on the other side.

[24:23] It may be consolidating those it seems like it could provide a lot of the 40 foot needed for rail if it needs to come back.

[24:32] Would you think about maybe consolidating the planting strips and possibly using that if UP or we want to bring the rail back instead of

[24:40] repurposing the trail?

[24:43] At this point, I'm not ready to comment on that or to say, you know, yes or no.

[24:48] I think we're trying to keep, I believe we're trying to keep the landscaping on both sides because we've got to remember we have

[24:56] homes along the corridor that are also worried about.

[25:00] And a way to try to keep that noises to heavily involve some sort of landscaping and the current trees that are out there as well. Sure. Thank you. Yeah. Member.

[25:12] Yeah. Thanks so much for the presentation. I think that a multi-use pathway here would be so amazing. And I really want to see that happen. And I really do not want to see you in specific be able to take that away from us. I was wondering if there would be

[25:31] be any ways to make a busway that would be sort of like make it easier to turn it back

[25:39] into rail.

[25:41] So for example, like have instead of like a 12 foot wide strip of pavement have like

[25:46] pavement only like around the rails so that the bus like can go still on top of the

[25:52] rails that might not be possible.

[25:54] But just a thought and or if San Francisco would consider redoing the rails to start and

[26:01] and then running some sort of tram service on the rails,

[26:04] which would allow same trains to keep the rails.

[26:07] And then if you need specific wants the rails,

[26:11] then it's very little work to change it.

[26:16] No, I appreciate the feedback,

[26:18] and I will definitely take it back to our team,

[26:20] and we can discuss that a little further.

[26:22] Thank you.

[26:23] Thank you.

[26:24] Yes, never again.

[26:26] Thank you for the presentation.

[26:30] like a member, Mendi, if he could have said, he mentioned a tram and I do think a tram

[26:38] would be a very nice addition because of the distance, you wouldn't have to build

[26:44] as many stations, maybe like three or four, I'm not sure, but then I think a tram is a

[26:51] great idea and it would connect nicely into downtown Edward City, but my main question

[26:57] was how would a bus or a tram, whatever it was built?

[27:02] How would it connect to the downtown Redwood City?

[27:06] Because I did see some pictures up there.

[27:08] It was like going down middle field and down the street

[27:11] or whatever.

[27:13] Yeah, yeah.

[27:15] That's a great question.

[27:16] Thank you for that question.

[27:17] Right now, we've had many design alternatives

[27:20] that we've come up with.

[27:23] We've settled on two design alternatives

[27:25] of that we're thinking that we're going to move forward with.

[27:28] One is to continue down middlefield down to Jefferson.

[27:32] What I believe is what the 295 or 296 currently does.

[27:38] And the other one is to take a right on the wood side

[27:42] and then take the off ramp onto ECR

[27:46] and then make it to the Redwood City's transit center.

[27:52] Those are good routes, but maybe one you could look into is down middle field where the

[27:59] 296 is already, but instead of turning down Jefferson, it goes to, I forgot what the

[28:04] street's called, but it goes down on the, where the current EPX bus stop is, it's like

[28:10] a different from the bus bay transit center, but it's, I don't think it's that crazy if

[28:17] an idea to have the bus go there and people just cross the tracks to transfer but I think

[28:24] it would be much simpler not going down under the tracks on Jefferson turning on El Camino

[28:29] and all that. I think just a straight shot and like right next to the train station where

[28:33] to.

[28:34] Are you thinking Winslow?

[28:35] Yeah.

[28:36] On Winslow.

[28:38] I think that's a much simpler and maybe cheaper idea.

[28:42] Yeah.

[28:42] We definitely looked at, I can tell you just looking at the team in the back.

[28:46] We've looked at so many alternatives for this project.

[28:51] I think we even looked at cutting over the CalTrain tracks.

[28:58] And after talking with CalTrain, we were like, maybe that's not a good idea.

[29:05] But that's a great comment.

[29:07] I appreciate that.

[29:08] And we definitely, I can take that as well back to the team and see if

[29:12] Winslow's something else that we can look at.

[29:15] I will tell you that we did talk to the Redwood City staff and they really felt that this

[29:23] portion of the community has been really affected by a lot of construction and even more

[29:30] construction on top of that would disproportionately affect how much they've been overcome with

[29:37] construction.

[29:37] and they're looking down quite a few years

[29:41] with the Cal train station moving to a new location,

[29:46] the whole middle field reconstruction as well.

[29:51] So we were kind of asked to see if we can stay

[29:55] on middle field through that outreach with the city.

[29:59] But again,

[30:00] I'll take it back to our team. All right. Thank you. Thanks. Do we have any other? Oh, yes. Good. Okay.

[30:09] Massive thanks for providing us with such informative presentations. So my main question is,

[30:17] is that like, let's say this plan actually goes into effect and the Dumbarton corridor is actually

[30:23] turned into a bus lane.

[30:26] I want to know what are the steps or what are the, how far

[30:31] are you guys going to go to treat it as a, like making sure

[30:36] that buses run really smoothly, almost like if it

[30:40] weren't actual rail lines.

[30:42] So just to elaborate, so are you going to put, like,

[30:48] are you going to do any protection at their crossing?

[30:51] Sorry, at their crossings at where the busway intersects roads because not the entire line

[30:59] is segregated or is above grade levels.

[31:03] So I want to bring in the example in Miami, Florida where they also had like a similar

[31:09] circumstance where they repurposed an old Florida east coast railway right away into a bus

[31:18] wrapper transit corridor and what they did at the intersections was that they installed railroad

[31:24] grade train crossings like crossings that you will see meant for a railway but instead it's for

[31:32] a bus corridor so yeah and then I also want to bring in like an example from the UK actually because

[31:41] because their busways are also repurposed from long gone rail corridors and to ensure that

[31:50] like the corridor is fully exclusive for bus service, they actually dug like little rectangular

[32:03] holes at each entrance to which the bus lane crosses a normal road intersection.

[32:10] So what it does is that the cars, if they try to get on the busway, their wheels will fall into that little ditch, so they can't go any further.

[32:23] And then they also, not experienced, they also implemented smart like movable ballards, so they are programmed to detect any transit vehicle.

[32:37] but they will not budge if a normal civilian vehicle tries to activate them.

[32:43] So yeah, just to bring everything back together, just want to know how far you guys

[32:50] going to go to make sure that this bus corridor will be as smooth and seamless as a rail corridor,

[33:01] because I feel like that is ideally what you guys should aim for.

[33:06] I really appreciate that question. We're looking at exactly what you mentioned in the Miami example and everything else. I'm going to actually go and look up the UK example you just gave us because the

[33:19] vehicle possibility of a vehicle entering the busway is something that could be highly probable right.

[33:28] We've even seen it on our cow trains right away so yeah we're going to be looking into everything

[33:38] and anything that can help us safely cross pedestrians, bicyclists, and our buses safely.

[33:46] And it will take a lot of work, it would take, like you were saying, the actual railroad crossing

[33:52] type of gates at all the intersections, even signage, maybe even lights, but yeah, that's

[34:01] something that we're definitely going to be looking into and trying to have the best

[34:08] possible examples that we can use on this corridor, and I really appreciate that question.

[34:15] Thank you. Any other comments?

[34:19] Yes, good.

[34:20] Since you've heard a lot of things tonight, I just do want to reiterate my comment about

[34:26] how much more useful this would be as a rail line that goes not just from Redwood City

[34:32] to East Palo, it's about across the bridge and connects to the other rail projects being

[34:36] worked on in the East Bay such as the East Project to bring their trends to Fremont and

[34:44] Union City and they've mentioned that they hope to bring it across the bridge if it's

[34:50] ever possible and no capital order so we can on some purchaser but like I said, when

[34:55] The big tech companies that we're going to fund that pulled out

[35:00] And I think if Sam Trance attempted to bring them back to the table for a rail project, it could be possible. So all I'm asking is for Sam Trance to make attempts to bring them back to the rail table for a rail project before finalizing the selected busway project and those sorts of things. Thank you. I appreciate the comment. Thank you. And then I just have one suggestion.

[35:29] I know that I think they're trying to add bus lanes to the Bayfront Expressway between the bridge and University Avenue and the end of this corridor would be at University Avenue.

[35:44] And so I think it would be incredible just a small extension to the project would be painting bus lanes and University Avenue from the Dunbarton corridor to the Bayfront Expressway, which would only be like half a mile or something.

[35:58] and it seems like looking at the map,

[36:00] there's like shoulder space available,

[36:02] so maybe we could just run them on the shoulder or something,

[36:04] but if we could just have the bus,

[36:06] I'm thinking of the Dunbarton Express,

[36:08] which goes over the bridge.

[36:09] If we could have them kind of jump that queue of traffic,

[36:12] that forms in the morning, trying to get,

[36:14] or sorry, in the afternoon, trying to get on to the bridge,

[36:18] you probably really only have to put them on the side

[36:21] that is turning on to the bridge.

[36:23] I don't think there's as much traffic on the other side,

[36:26] but yeah, if we could just have the bus lane

[36:28] there, then they would have a continuous corridor while not on the bridge, but they'd have the bus lanes

[36:33] that are from the bridge to university avenue. They could turn on to the bus lanes and university

[36:37] avenue, and then they could enter the the Dunbarton busway all the way to Redwood City, which I think

[36:42] would be incredible for the Dunbarton Express service, which I know we don't run, but they could

[36:47] also be a great user of this. So yeah, that would be really awesome, but yeah, just that comment,

[36:53] And yeah, really appreciate the presentation.

[36:57] And yeah, especially I think the walking and cycle track

[36:59] looks really incredible for mobility along the corridor as well.

[37:02] So yeah, thank you.

[37:04] Thank you.

[37:04] We talked to that project team.

[37:06] And I believe they're thinking of using Winslow instead

[37:10] of university.

[37:11] And we're actually looking at some sort of stop

[37:15] at the Winslow Dunbarton corridor area where folks can

[37:20] get on and off and use boats.

[37:22] Oh, okay, yeah, that would also be, yeah, that's a much closer connection, yeah, that would

[37:27] also be great.

[37:27] Yeah, even if they could just transfer on to the Dunbarton bus, that would be really great.

[37:32] Okay, well, yeah, thank you so much for looking into that.

[37:35] Okay.

[37:35] Yeah, thanks so much for the presentation.

[37:37] Thank you.

[37:41] All right.

[37:42] And then we can go ahead and move on to item number six, which is our staff report.

[37:52] Good evening, everyone.

[37:54] I'm not a reverse director of bus transportation.

[37:56] Thank you for those who joined us this past Saturday and attended the 50th anniversary.

[38:02] I think it was really fun and it was really nice to see some familiar faces there.

[38:07] I'm going to be presenting or sharing the July 2026 staff report.

[38:13] As far as ridership, we did ridership across all four modes increased by 0.7%.

[38:21] July 2026 compared to July 2025.

[38:25] And that's where monthly ridership increased 0.4% compared to the same months.

[38:31] We have informative ridership information now and I will be continuing reporting it.

[38:37] And they also have a retroactively information available if you're interested as well.

[38:44] For the months that we did not report the ridership.

[38:46] Regarding keep performance indicator, indicators I have phenomenal use.

[38:53] The month of July 2026, we exceeded the miles between preventable accidents, reaching 135,000 miles,

[39:02] and 135, 243,000 miles between preventable accidents.

[39:06] The goals to have 100,000 miles, so we were above the goal, including contract services and

[39:15] and direct operated services.

[39:20] Another good, keep performance indicator, D&O's.

[39:25] We had zero D&O's for the month.

[39:28] Imagine we operate approximately 50,000 schedules per month.

[39:35] So that's 50,000 opportunities to have, to make a mistake or an opportunity to get sick,

[39:40] or to have an accident and not have a bus to replace the schedule.

[39:44] So we have zero DNOs, so I'm very proud of the team for

[39:49] working and going up and beyond to make sure that we provide the service that we promised our customers.

[39:58] Another good statistic on time.

[40:00] The candidates or staff got a coffee and donuts in the morning, and of course, our appreciation.

[40:07] As far as miles between preventable access, I'm sorry, miles between service schools.

[40:12] The goal is to have 25,000 miles between service schools.

[40:15] We unfortunately did not meet the goal, with 21,891 miles between preventable accidents.

[40:23] However, the diesel operator fleet did meet the goal.

[40:26] with 27,676 miles between preventable, between service goals.

[40:33] Our safety campaign focused on stay, the message was stay away, stay aware, stay clear to prevent the preventable.

[40:44] Our prayers are reminded to remind an alert, use extra caution to address recurring safety concerns,

[40:50] concerns such as the right-side clearance, safe following distance, and pass on your boarding.

[40:57] Operators are asked to take an extra moment to verify clearance before closing the doors.

[41:03] And take a brief pause to help prevent injuries in a boy and safe door closures.

[41:10] This was based on observed trends.

[41:14] We're going to have a tour in November and I will be happy to share a little bit more of

[41:19] the initiatives and campaigns that we have going on,

[41:22] but we just instituted a new initiative.

[41:27] We have a soft dash cam

[41:30] which captures operators performance

[41:33] and based on this triggering events that we observe,

[41:37] we use that information to focus

[41:40] on the safety campaigns on the behaviors

[41:43] and we have seen a lot of progress.

[41:46] So I'll be happy to give you more technical information

[41:49] and share you a few clips when we have our tour.

[41:56] For employee recognition, the operator of the month was Ching-Kan Lee.

[42:01] This was for the Ford Nord Base and Charles Bullyu from South Base.

[42:07] And the maintenance employees of the month were Luke Kong from Nord Base and

[42:12] Jorge Reyes from South Base, both utility workers.

[42:16] the staff that helps us keep the buses clean and filled.

[42:24] And lastly, I have a public announcement that CAC oversight committee,

[42:28] which oversees and measures W tax proceeds to ensure funds are spent accordingly

[42:33] per what voters plan for, has an opening specifically for CAC members.

[42:41] We invite you to check the website.

[42:43] It's on our semifinals website and we encourage you to take part of that committee as well.

[42:51] And that concludes my report and I'm happy to answer any questions.

[42:55] Thank you very much.

[42:56] Do we have any public comments on that?

[42:59] There are no public comments.

[43:00] All right, oh yes, my room is ready.

[43:03] That's a great question, could we have any information for August and September?

[43:16] For what?

[43:17] I'm sorry?

[43:18] For August.

[43:21] Oh, the reason why we present a month before is because we first present the first information

[43:29] available to the board and unfortunately the board meetings take place right at the beginning

[43:34] of the month and the CDC take place at the end of the month so we're always going to be a

[43:39] month behind because the board members are the first ones to get fresh and new information.

[43:46] That's why it sounds like we're a little behind but this is the same information I presented to

[43:51] the board early this month. Thank you and thank you. Of course, we're going to the dashboard.

[44:00] Is it always have a camera for buses and in how I remember it depends. It has been

[44:16] and use a nest as a complaint, right, but now it's changed.

[44:26] Well, the buses already have about 11 cameras in total,

[44:31] and that system is continued to be used for investigations,

[44:36] for clear complaints or investigating claims,

[44:40] and that continues to be the protocol.

[44:43] So, what Bashcam does is, it's a system that is placed directly capturing the offer's

[44:53] behavior and the traffic around it, but it has an artificial intelligence component.

[45:00] Opponent, which measures speed, geophorses, and based on those calculations and data, creates trigger events. And those trigger events are very short, seven-second clip that is video clip that is sent to our team, and our team observed said. And I'm going to share like a basic one, let's say, the trigger event captures a rolling stop.

[45:28] and thus fail to make a complete step at a staff's signal.

[45:35] We will get a video and then we take that as an opportunity

[45:39] to talk to an operator and say, hey, you know what?

[45:42] I know you're always busy and I know there's a lot of things

[45:45] that you have to focus on, but this is important.

[45:48] It's not only a sound trans rule, but it's a policy.

[45:53] It's a D&B California D&B section, something violation.

[46:02] But we take it as a coaching opportunity, rather, to penalize an operator.

[46:07] If they need training, we will send them to training.

[46:10] And the reason why I mentioned it with our safety campaigns is if we see a large amount of specific triggering events,

[46:18] like in this case are rolling stuff we will focus our safety campaign in general to address this.

[46:26] So even it's on the whole time but it's not capturing footage the whole time and only captures

[46:33] video when there's a triggering event or a safety triggering event. Thank you. I probably share

[46:40] a little bit more than last far.

[46:43] Thank you.

[46:45] Thank you.

[46:46] Member Ribbonage.

[46:48] I do just want to follow up on the earlier comment about the reports being very late.

[46:56] Obviously you can't produce the September report which the board will get since the month isn't over.

[47:02] But since August was 30 days ago and sometimes we meet on the 24th sometimes.

[47:09] and not the 30th, but is it possible to get the report from the last month that the board will get out a little early so that we could get the most latest information to?

[47:22] So like right now I'm reporting what was reported to in the last board meeting, that information's already available as part of the minutes of the board meeting.

[47:33] I just don't, I always want to, we, the district wants to present that newest information

[47:39] first to the board and then to the subcommittees or committees.

[47:43] But if there's like something specific that you're at, I wouldn't have data because

[47:47] we have to close the whole month and sometimes it takes a little bit like a couple of weeks

[47:53] to gather like ridership or information like that.

[47:57] But if you want something specific, I'll be happy to share and my report.

[48:06] Thank you. Any other comments?

[48:09] All right. Oh yeah.

[48:11] Actually, really quickly about the cameras, this is not meant to be like a

[48:19] Cusetory, but I was just thinking about it from like a bus operator's perspective.

[48:23] And now like they have this new camera that's always watching them and judging their every move.

[48:27] And I was wondering if you like consulted with the operators, like the operators union about this like before and still in the cameras and if they had thoughts absolutely yes, we've been

[48:36] collaborating with the union from the beginning.

[48:40] It was very important to us to keep them informed.

[48:44] We have a task force formed with operators representing not only the union president and secretary, but also operators representing each base.

[48:54] And I think the more information operators have, the more comfortable they feel.

[49:02] And again, just sharing the goal of this, I mean, it's really just to help them, help

[49:09] them help us improve our safety goal.

[49:16] And I feel like what I have done personally to make sure they feel comfortable is continuously

[49:23] usually sharing the message whenever there's anything new.

[49:26] I will share, well, this week we have this,

[50:00] That means that, or just to make them feel like he's knowing that we don't have staff like just dedicated to be looking at the cameras, we just specifically look at the trigger events. And we don't do not use the software, the information, the data for anything else because we do have the other cameras that are also present. And they have been for many years. Thank you to dinner operators involved.

[50:31] Thank you. All right. With that, I think we can move on to item number seven, which is the report of the chair. I have no report this month.

[50:42] So we can move on to item number eight. So at the last board meeting, I think one fun thing they talked about was transit month, which it is no longer or no, it is still transit month today. So yes, that's great for a little bit longer.

[50:56] I'm always good to celebrate that and then, okay, we can go ahead and move on to item number nine, which is CAC member requesting comments.

[51:06] Do we have any requests or comments? Yes, member Ganner.

[51:13] Hello. Today, I just came back from a trip from New York and I came at a bad time and there's no bar trains to celebrate.

[51:21] So I had to get on Sam Trance, which is great.

[51:25] I love Sam Trance.

[51:26] And I had to find my way as in Terminal 3.

[51:31] I had to find my way to the bus stop

[51:32] to go towards Hillsdale.

[51:35] Then I could get my Cal train.

[51:36] But to find a bus stop, it was a little difficult

[51:39] because you're doing some renovation at the airport.

[51:42] But even without the renovation,

[51:44] I think it would be really difficult.

[51:45] And once I found the bus stop, it was in like a respectfully

[51:50] a terrible condition, like there's a bench, it's very dark, there's a sign that has only

[51:56] the routes and-

[51:58] It did not remember exactly where the couple stopped.

[52:02] Terminal three underground going towards Hillsdale.

[52:09] But I think it's the same for all the bus stops in the airport.

[52:14] They're all very dark and out of the way.

[52:19] Maybe we could figure out something along the bus stop improvement plant.

[52:23] I don't know if it's a part of it, the airport that it should be.

[52:26] But maybe if you're like a traveler from a different country,

[52:31] you're trying to find, you're using Google Maps, it says to take this bus.

[52:36] You're like, okay, I'll take the bus, but I don't know where it is.

[52:39] No one knows, no one takes the bus.

[52:41] So you follow the signs, and it's not very good signage.

[52:47] signage like I could figure it out but if I was a tourist I might not be able to figure it out and the bus stop

[52:54] It's only a sign and a little chair. I think maybe the airport deserves a little better like maybe a little shelter

[53:04] And more lights and more information because especially there's a lot of tourists at the airport

[53:10] So I think more information would be really really helpful at all the airport stops

[53:15] Yes.

[53:16] Yeah.

[53:17] Thank you.

[53:18] I took note.

[53:19] We partnered with SFO to make sure that way findings are something that it's hopefully

[53:27] like something intuitive for tourists to follow regardless of what language they speak, but

[53:32] we'll check with them and make sure that we collaborate and find ways to make it to improve

[53:39] it.

[53:40] Yeah, thank you, but maybe also the entire not only Sam Trans, but for CalTrain and BART.

[53:48] All the public transit at the airport could be under a big new program partnered with

[53:52] the airport and all the public transit agencies where they could all have a simplified way

[53:57] finding.

[53:58] So like the sign is like gates here, gates here, exit here, and then the next sign is it's

[54:07] All in blue for public transport, and this is CalTrain, CalTrain go that way.

[54:12] And it's sorry, it's much simpler.

[54:15] Make it partner up with the airport to make it much simpler for a bigger project.

[54:20] Maybe, thank you.

[54:23] Thank you, any, oh yes, memory minute.

[54:26] Before I had a few things, I wanted to comment, but

[54:29] you want to just elaborate with the airport we're finding last Sunday.

[54:34] I was at the airport trying to take part.

[54:37] from Davis City to Milbury, there was some sort of bar construction on the

[54:42] track from the airport to Milbury and all the trains were delayed and not on

[54:47] schedule so I decided that I would take same trains which I've done from the

[54:51] airport many times and I do remember there's a stairwell to go down and there are

[54:57] signs that say buses to sams

[55:00] Free of where that stairwell is, there's no signage, ended up giving up and finding an elevator, but by the time I got down there, I had missed the bus. So I didn't go back to bar, which was delayed, and I ended up missing countering.

[55:15] For the comments I didn't wanted to make. So, first last Saturday was the celebration for San Francisco 50th birthday. San Francisco put on a really good event.

[55:29] And I think I want to thank everyone on Samtran staff who helped to put it together.

[55:38] I do also want to mention that on Sunday I went to a transit month event

[55:45] and they'll from daily city to Pacifica where Samtran ended up sending an extra operator and a supervisor

[55:54] because the amount of people at the event was large.

[55:56] So operator 1345, who was not scheduled to drive the 110 to Pacifica, ended up coming

[56:06] in an articulated bust for everyone, taking time out of their day, which they could have

[56:13] been doing other routes or other parts of their day-to-day responsibilities.

[56:17] And a supervisor, I didn't catch their number, but name, but I think you might be able to

[56:23] find that. I do know I'm not sure if it's the same now but when I got my orientation

[56:31] a few years ago, I was told that we could ask for you to go and give commendations in

[56:40] front of everyone their base to thank them. If that's possible, that would be great.

[56:47] Absolutely, and I appreciate that you take the time to do this.

[56:51] We have a few ways so we can command our operators.

[56:58] One of the, that might preferred one, well, there's the official one which is the employee

[57:04] of the month.

[57:05] They get chosen based on nominations, so this definitely will go towards the operator.

[57:11] The second one, like you mentioned, we call it like that I make a difference award, and

[57:17] And this is where the team, myself, my team get together and go in the middle of a route

[57:25] in the middle of, in front of all the customers and surprise an operator.

[57:30] When they see all the district vehicles around, they get a little scared, they think they

[57:35] are in trouble, but we get to the bus and celebrate them and share with the customers the

[57:40] reason why we're making, we give in the upper and I make a difference award.

[57:44] So I'll be I'll make sure that we pass that thank you very much and I also want to give credit to the deputy director here

[57:51] Henry Silva's he helped me put together the service augmentation for for that event.

[57:59] Thank you.

[58:04] I do have one more comment. I've already commented on this before but once again it is very ridiculous how Sam

[58:14] spend millions, hundreds of millions, not billions of dollars, and isn't even done spending

[58:20] them since they haven't acquired the building, but to build this space out and for us to

[58:25] come here and instead of utilizing the board and CAC desks in, I guess, area.

[58:34] The tables are being pulled out down here last meeting we were told it's an accessibility

[58:40] issue but there's a ramp over there and I do know that at least one of the STEM

[58:47] transport members has mobility issues too. So I'm not sure what the problem is

[58:53] as to why we can't use that area. Just in the past few months the CAC made a

[59:03] recommendation to the Board not to restrict public comments from two minutes to

[59:09] one minute, the board didn't listen to us.

[59:11] We asked for the board to consult as before renaming us.

[59:14] We were not consulted and if anyone hasn't noticed

[59:18] where the community advisory committee,

[59:21] so at times it feels like we come here every month and vain

[59:27] and we are not even given the chance to sit

[59:31] in the normal area.

[59:34] So is there any way we can be moved back up to that area

[59:38] because the first meeting we spent here, I believe in June, we were up there.

[59:44] Obviously, the CAC isn't a stranger to weird setups.

[59:48] I'm sure everyone remembers San Carlos, where that board room was very outdated,

[59:54] so setup was confusing.

[59:56] But this is a brand new board room that I guess...

[1:00:00] Just bill. So, why not have the CAC sit on the purpose bill area?

[1:00:07] Noted and I will pass the comment. I just want to say, personally, and then in behalf of the district, we we do appreciate and your time is not in vain. We appreciate your input. I chair with you earlier. You are our eyes and ears. And then permission you provide here. We put in practice immediately. So we do appreciate your.

[1:00:29] your participation.

[1:00:33] Thank you for those comments.

[1:00:34] Do we have any other comments?

[1:00:36] Yes.

[1:00:40] So I have some feedback from my eyes and ears.

[1:00:45] That I have noticed recently.

[1:00:47] I know that all at first I wanted to thank you for

[1:00:51] and for all of the for following up about the concern

[1:00:55] on Route 16 the afternoon.

[1:00:57] It's amazing that was

[1:00:59] brought to planning staff.

[1:01:02] Thank you so much for doing that.

[1:01:05] It's hard as high school students for a voice

[1:01:08] to get through to the people who make the changes.

[1:01:12] So I appreciate you doing that.

[1:01:14] Thank you, November 15th.

[1:01:16] Awesome.

[1:01:19] I and the survey that Trozi added about free youth fairs,

[1:01:25] I did share that, and I wanted to,

[1:01:29] I'm not technically like the target audience of that survey but I still have some thoughts

[1:01:33] about free youth fairs and I articulate them.

[1:01:37] I think free youth fairs for all or a much more lenient free youth fair service would

[1:01:46] be the ideal outcome for youth fairs for many reasons.

[1:01:54] The biggest reason that I have seen is that the Clipper readers are very slow.

[1:02:02] At my bus stop there are 8-9 kids that board the bus, and the bus sits there for 50 seconds

[1:02:08] to a minute loading all of those kids, and over all the stops in that route that can add

[1:02:14] several minutes of delays, and I just wanted to reiterate that for the bus, like the biggest

[1:02:20] part of the experience is the schedule. So, if the schedule is slow, then students will

[1:02:27] be much less likely to write. So, if we can be doing stuff like making not forcing everybody

[1:02:33] to tag on or, for example, allowing all door boarding to reduce the amount of time it

[1:02:38] takes to load the bus, I think that would be a great fix. This would also like, I can free

[1:02:44] youth affairs for all would also remove like hoops that lower income families might have

[1:02:50] to jump through with paperwork and just make it easy. That's what the California did

[1:02:55] with free lunches. And it's also in San Francisco it was proven to reduce school true and

[1:03:01] theory rights. I'm just spitting facts now.

[1:03:06] And so that's what my concept for youth affairs.

[1:03:09] and then I also have a structural suggestion,

[1:03:15] a sort of long term for school routes.

[1:03:17] This is kind of when Sam Trance is next planning

[1:03:21] to revamp and reconsider throughout,

[1:03:24] I would ask Sam Trance to consider adding

[1:03:29] or splitting existing routes that have multiple trips

[1:03:33] on them into distinct routes that have more direct service

[1:03:39] rather than the circuitous routes we have now which would ensure better coverage and more

[1:03:45] direct trips which again would make the trips quicker for students and make students more

[1:03:48] likely to take the bus and ensuring that you don't need to send multiple buses back

[1:03:54] to back in order to provide enough capacity on the routes.

[1:03:59] So again, I have a very St. Carlos Belmont mine because that's where I spend most of my time.

[1:04:06] But examples of these could be splitting route 62 into a route that goes directly to the

[1:04:15] Belmont Hills without doing the Ralston those school detour, and one that goes straight

[1:04:19] up Ralston, or splitting route 60 into a route that serves other shores and then goes on Ralston,

[1:04:24] or route that serves other shores and goes on St. Carlos Avenue to Carlisle.

[1:04:32] And I have some words to the feedback about Route 61, but I can send you an email about that so I don't waste every once in a while.

[1:04:40] Thank you.

[1:04:41] We are going to have a comprehensive strategic plan coming up in a couple of years so I'm sure that we'll revisit that those options as a possibility.

[1:04:53] Thank you.

[1:04:54] Thank you. Do we have? Yes, go ahead. Okay. Um, so I just want to bring.

[1:05:00] One of my classmates I've been having. So he's a, he's a pretty average Sam trans bus rider. And his issue is, is that his local bus stop, I believe it's called Norfolk and Laughty on the 250.

[1:05:17] He had accounts of when the bus drivers will occasionally miss his stop, even though he was waiting there.

[1:05:26] So, personally, I don't know that area of San Mateo very well, but looking on Street View,

[1:05:35] I saw that the Norfolk and Laudie stop is, I don't know, I can't say for sure if from

[1:05:45] a bus driver's perspective, but it is somewhat, I guess, not really exposed that well.

[1:05:52] and like because North Folk is interesting because you've got parked cars.

[1:06:00] So cross street again, North Folk and what?

[1:06:03] North Folk and body, L-O-D-I, L-O-D-I, sorry.

[1:06:11] So yeah, maybe if this issue keeps on persisting, then I wish that Sam Trance can investigate

[1:06:20] into this and if proven to be proven to be true, I hope that measures can be taken

[1:06:30] such as like painting a bus bay or like installing shelters over there just

[1:06:37] to make the stop more viewable from a bus driver's perspective.

[1:06:43] so yeah. Thank you. It would be very helpful to me if you if your friend can

[1:06:50] provide like a time our bus number so that we can address it with the

[1:06:57] operators. Sometimes we have like right now we have a brand new class that

[1:07:01] just graduated and they're a little unfamiliar with their routes sometimes and

[1:07:06] again not to get anybody on trouble but just to review data videos and and then

[1:07:13] and give them some coaching or additional training

[1:07:16] to make sure that they're familiar,

[1:07:18] route familiarization so that I was a driver

[1:07:21] and I remember missing stuff.

[1:07:23] So it's sometimes, and I know this area is very, very crowded.

[1:07:27] If it was unintentional, we can do something to correct it.

[1:07:32] And if it's intentional,

[1:07:34] we're in the business of picking up customers

[1:07:36] so definitely we'll take action.

[1:07:40] But more detail in for in general,

[1:07:42] I will ask supervisors to take a look, but it's specific details would help me a lot in the future.

[1:07:53] Thank you. Yes.

[1:07:55] I don't know if you can see online participants.

[1:08:00] Oh, sorry, could a member of Benavish go real quick and then you can go.

[1:08:04] Member Monick.

[1:08:06] I've talked a lot tonight.

[1:08:08] I do want to echo the earlier comments about free and reduced bus fares for youth.

[1:08:16] I consistently find this study on my phone safe somewhere and then the next day I need to find it again.

[1:08:22] I can't find it, but if I find it, I will send it to the secretary, so everyone will be able to read it.

[1:08:30] But there was a study conducted.

[1:08:31] I believe over a year ago by the SFMTA Youth Transit Advisory Board that found that a lot of

[1:08:39] munis youth riders are riders because of free fairs and another finding that they found was

[1:08:46] that some of the adult riders were riders because of free fairs since when they were younger,

[1:08:52] they were able to just get on the buses, go anywhere they wanted to and that kind of made it convenient

[1:08:59] in and easy for them to learn how to use the buses. So by the time they had to pay

[1:09:03] fairs, it paid off for the agency and the end since the agency got more adult writers.

[1:09:10] I think it would be, we brought this up I think multiple times on the CAC, but it would

[1:09:17] be awesome for there to be youth fairs. And I'm assuming that since all the studies go through

[1:09:24] the board if we are able to like we're able to make a recommendation for the board to do

[1:09:31] things. So I do want to at the time make a motion a possible to do the chair because this

[1:09:38] item is an agenda is we can put on agenda for the next period. I just want to make a motion.

[1:09:46] I would like to motion for the CAC to recommend that the board the item can't be for

[1:09:53] discussion since this item isn't a generalize it can't be for discussion I've made

[1:10:00] Do I need the chair for permission to make a motion? I will defer to the secretary. I'm not sure. If it prompts discussion, we cannot because it's not a agenda item. This is general member. If you'd like to bring it up on a further meeting and then discuss the topic later, we can do that. I'm not sure how I was able to do this. I believe in June.

[1:10:32] but I did make a motion and requested another motion to be made for a recommendation to the board.

[1:10:41] Would you like to request to discuss this item in a future meeting?

[1:10:46] I wanted to make a motion then.

[1:10:50] If anything, actually, we might not have been able to do the one back in June.

[1:10:55] I'm thinking actually because you were technically not supposed to discuss things that are not on the agenda.

[1:11:03] I was hoping to make a motion to make a recommendation for the board to investigate something, to agenda something in the future rather than have the CAC discuss it.

[1:11:16] I know the Brown Act is very confusing at times but I was able to do this in the past.

[1:11:24] We will have to check and make sure we're in compliance and get back to you and see if we can do the motion next time.

[1:11:32] I'll tape it for next meeting then.

[1:11:36] Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Sorry for the confusion there.

[1:11:40] Okay. I believe member Montner had some comments.

[1:11:45] Yeah. Yeah. I know that we did not receive an El Camino Real presentation today,

[1:11:51] but I've got a few comments and requests that I'd like to make about it,

[1:11:55] which is. I wanted to give positive feedback about the ECR detour

[1:12:00] for the segment between 2nd and San Mateo

[1:12:03] and the Milbury Transit Station.

[1:12:06] Crossing two lanes of traffic on foot

[1:12:08] is noticeably safer as a pedestrian

[1:12:11] than four, five, or six, or seven lanes of El Camino.

[1:12:15] So I would request a presentation on the status

[1:12:19] of ECR route health due to this detour,

[1:12:24] has ridership been impacted by the change,

[1:12:26] change, and then also assessing feasibility of

[1:12:30] Milbury as the transit stations in midway point to improve levels service on time performance

[1:12:37] and frequency, and maybe there are bathrooms for the operators to use.

[1:12:42] I think that would be really great, but just a request as far as a presentation for ECRF

[1:12:48] since it's something like a quarter or a third of all rides on the San Trans Network.

[1:12:53] I wanted to also make another presentation request, but feedback about moments where the bus holds at a scheduled or a rebalancing stop for the schedule where the bus is ahead of schedule. I noticed this on the CR out that will stop the operator of stop the bus at a stop and then will wait for several minutes and I can only assume it's because we're ahead of schedule and it seems like it's always the same stop.

[1:13:18] That would be really great to eliminate rider confusion by perhaps issuing an auditory message to the riders.

[1:13:28] It's something that operators could do over the microphone, but perhaps this is a, I think it would be a meaningful improvement to the rider experience.

[1:13:39] And then that's it.

[1:13:41] If I can comment just a little bit on response to the ACR where you're describing it's exactly

[1:13:50] what you said.

[1:13:51] It's a bus, especially on the ACR with the detour and traffic.

[1:13:57] We can't check time points where the operators are supposed to leave a certain time and by

[1:14:11] highly penalized by operations.

[1:14:15] We cannot avoid being late,

[1:14:16] but we can definitely avoid not being ahead of schedule.

[1:14:20] So that's why the reason why the operas

[1:14:22] dwell a little bit, especially because, as you mentioned,

[1:14:26] the ECR is such a long route.

[1:14:28] There are certain times where we, in order to balance it,

[1:14:31] you have to like, just stop the passing weight

[1:14:33] and make sure you leave on time so that we don't bunch up.

[1:14:37] But I do agree that the operas should make an announcement.

[1:14:40] we will always remind them to do this.

[1:14:42] I'm gonna see if our ITS team can do something automatic

[1:14:47] where they can just press a button,

[1:14:49] so that doesn't have to verbally have to say manually

[1:14:52] every time, but I do agree that it's important

[1:14:55] for our customers to know why we're stopping it.

[1:14:59] This is unnecessary.

[1:15:00] Yeah, um, feedback about the UCR detour continuing that just for a moment is that I've noticed bus bunching seems to be less frequent on the UCR route than it was pre detour. So that's another detail I'd be curious to know about the route health with the detour given that the detour is going to be going on for a minimum of two more years. So it's a this is a long standing impact to their route and I think it'd be very interesting to know.

[1:15:29] So what the impacts have been on ridership and on time performance and delays and schedules

[1:15:35] and whatnot.

[1:15:36] So thank you.

[1:15:37] I could add this as an item during our our base tour.

[1:15:43] I think that's this operational related and we can be share there.

[1:15:48] Oh, thank you very much.

[1:15:49] Yeah, I remember the first time when I wrote a bus and they stopped for a long time.

[1:15:53] I was very confused.

[1:15:54] But yeah, I think they had like an announcement that said it was a time check or something

[1:15:57] which was helpful. Yes, I remember, Mejri.

[1:16:02] I questioned on members of field writers.

[1:16:09] And this is a clarification question.

[1:16:14] It's true that most of...

[1:16:19] I do know that San Francisco,

[1:16:21] So, three-by-money is passed by

[1:16:29] supervisors of seven-year-old school

[1:16:33] and then they implemented five-minute

[1:16:37] so it's that going to likely

[1:16:42] the same in seven-year-old school.

[1:16:49] Most likely, right?

[1:16:51] Can you say that again about something that sufferance is going to be provided?

[1:16:55] So I know for a few rides, for an age of 18 and people with disabilities and senior adults,

[1:17:27] I'm not sure how SFMTA I believe that's what it is and so I guess the question is

[1:17:41] that the board of some grants can suggest that to the Board of Secretary of Justice.

[1:17:54] So I just curious if you can ask legal and see if...

[1:18:04] I think every individual agency has its own policies and their board approves.

[1:18:11] I know like for some trends we are right now going to perform in a fair study and based on the

[1:18:17] fair study results we will recommend something to the board and then it's up to the board to either

[1:18:24] approve or not or deny the changes that we're anything related to fairs that we're proposing.

[1:18:37] Thank you, any other? Yes, member of the Convention.

[1:18:40] Sorry. Just to add to the ECR comments, if we are in a presentation on it, I remember

[1:18:48] when that change was made. One of the things the public was told was that north of

[1:18:54] Millbury, there would be additional service. I've had times where I'm in San Bernard, South

[1:19:01] San Francisco, and there was one time I would be two hours and then ten buses showed

[1:19:07] up because they got stuck somewhere along the detour route. I'm wondering how the extra service

[1:19:17] from Milbury is supposed to work because if there were extra service then I wouldn't have had to wait

[1:19:23] two hours. I don't think there we ever said that there was going to be extra service. What happened

[1:20:00] Motion project. We would have to be flexible and sometimes in the matter of like minutes have to detour buses. Maybe one of the ones that were affected by one of those last minute changes. But in the last couple of months, it had been very stable. And we're in constant communication with the city and the construction team to get notified ahead of time so that we can inform the customers.

[1:20:29] and operators, and I don't think that it's as confusing, and I have heard very good positive feedback from customers, and operators now that they have a stable round.

[1:20:42] The time I had to wait two hours was in August, so not that long ago.

[1:20:49] So, I do wonder if I'll stick the 292 EPX 110 ECR all those routes where it's very frequent

[1:20:59] and there's a lot of buses if there's an opportunity to have extra service in place.

[1:21:05] So, for example, I would do two hours and wonder if there was an opportunity to send a bus

[1:21:09] from north base to add extra service north of Milbury so that passengers wouldn't along

[1:21:19] I'm very surprised to hear that you waited two hours because we have service every 15 minutes and that would be four buses, I mean eight buses, late, I will have to check and see, but when there are delays or detours, we have an extra board group of operators that are dispatched, we have them sometimes stationed strategically throughout the county.

[1:21:45] And we dispatched them to areas where however they can get the fastest to

[1:21:51] of this is resources basis.

[1:21:54] Sometimes we don't have the resources to do that.

[1:21:56] But whenever there are delays we try to do that.

[1:22:01] I was tracking the buses on my phone.

[1:22:03] They were all stuck kind of in the detour area.

[1:22:06] If I find the screenshots and the entire I can send that to you.

[1:22:11] Unless there was like a huge unusual accident.

[1:22:14] It was I'm not sure what happened there a bunch of buses came at the same time after two hours

[1:22:20] So hopefully in the future

[1:22:23] That can be mediated

[1:22:28] Thank you, all right any other

[1:22:30] Yes, good

[1:22:32] I know it's taking a while, but I'm wondering if I should make my comment now or she or I should go over after meeting and talk to you

[1:22:39] Am I allowed to do that? Yeah, okay, they wouldn't be like

[1:22:44] Yeah, breaking the rules of a quorum or whatever.

[1:22:49] It wouldn't.

[1:22:49] Okay.

[1:22:52] All right.

[1:22:53] Any other comments?

[1:22:55] Oh, yeah.

[1:22:56] Yeah.

[1:22:58] Sorry.

[1:22:59] Sorry, James.

[1:23:00] I'm going to make a quick final announcement, which is that the regional transmeasure is going

[1:23:07] to be on the ballot in November as measure RTM.

[1:23:11] If it fails, CalTrain abort Muni AC transit could be forced to cut significant amounts of service.

[1:23:20] And SamTrans could be facing an operational deficit within the five to ten years.

[1:23:23] If it passes, then transit service will, all transit service will be preserved.

[1:23:30] And SamTrans will have, I think, roughly $50 million extra year that they can use to possibly expand.

SamTrans Citizens Advisory Committee

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