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We heard from anyone else? Is this us?
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>> Yeah, we got a
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quorum. We got a quorum.
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>> We got a quorum. All right.
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>> Yeah, so we got two members at large.
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>> Yeah.
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Let's go. It's 7:00.
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>> Fine.
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>> All right.
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We will get started then. Welcome
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everyone to Santa Monica City Planning
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Commission.
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Uh it's Tuesday, July 28th, 2026. We're
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getting started at 7:01 p.m.
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All right. Would anyone like to get us
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started tonight with an inspirational
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thought or an invocation?
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» I'll give the invocation.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Our Father in heaven, we are grateful
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for
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all the blessings that we have received
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from thee. We're grateful for the rain
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and precipitation that we received. We
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ask for more. We
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ask thee to bless us with um
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the the things that we need for this
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city. And these things we ask for in the
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name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
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>> All right, thank you, Commissioner
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Christopher. Would anyone like to uh
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lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance
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tonight?
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>> I can. Thank you.
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» Repeat after me.
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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America.
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And to the republic for which it stands,
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one nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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>> [clears throat]
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» All right, thank you, Commissioner
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Johnson.
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Okay, on the screen here before us we
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have the the agenda for tonight. Um
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if there's no objection, I think we'll
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just proceed in this order. Um
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we'll start though before we get into
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agenda item number one with the public
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forum. So, for those of you in
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attendance tonight, that is the
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opportunity for the public to address
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the commission um
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with regard to anything that's on your
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mind. However, we do have two public
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hearings on the agenda. So, if you're
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here for either of those public hearings
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and would like to comment on those
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items, we'd ask you to hold those
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comments until we get to those public
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hearings.
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Um but if there's anything else that
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you'd like to bring up before the
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commission tonight, now is the time. So,
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I'll open the public forum at 7:03 and
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invite any comments if anyone would like
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to.
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>> Trevor, can I ask that Sorry, that was
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so loud. Can I ask that we do the
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proposed conditional use permit before
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the public hearings because the
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applicant is in the audience?
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>> Absolutely, we can do that.
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>> Thank you.
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>> No problem.
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Okay, any comments for the public forum?
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Okay, then we will close the public
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forum at 7:03 and um
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as requested, we'll move right into
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agenda item number three. This is the
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proposed conditional use permit for Wild
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Thistle Cafe Class C alcohol license.
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» Okay, like Trevor has already
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introduced, Wild Thistle Cafe is located
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at 77 West Main Street and they're
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requesting a Class C alcohol
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establishment to
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the limited service restaurant license.
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So, 70% of the sales would still come
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from the sale of food.
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Alcohol would be the minor
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income and it is part of the Main Street
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business district zone.
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Um formerly, it was the central business
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district before we removed it, which it
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wasn't allowed use. But because it's
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just the MSC now, it requires a
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conditional use.
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Within the Santaquin City code, we don't
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have any specific conditions outlined.
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But we do still have to go through the
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process.
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Um
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for reference, here it is located on
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Main Street.
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And then
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this is
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a letter from them just explaining
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their request.
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So,
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your job today is to make a motion to
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approve or deny the conditional use
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permit for the proposed Wild Thistle
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classify it as a alcohol establishment
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license.
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And the applicant is with us.
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>> All right. Thanks, Asmin. Um for the
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applicants, is there anything you'd like
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to add to that presentation?
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» [snorts]
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>> Is there Would you like to add anything?
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>> Say my friend will do it. I was excited.
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Is there anything you want to say?
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>> I mean, the
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letter kind of just outlines like
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>> Would you step up to the microphone for
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us and state your name for the record?
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Thanks.
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>> add that, too.
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Um Chesley Cordis.
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Um the letter kind of just outlines like
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what it is and how we intend to use it.
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Um I guess the only thing that doesn't
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have on there
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Oh, no, it does say
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beer and wine.
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So, it wouldn't be any like
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full alcohol. So, like no cocktails or
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shots or anything like that. Um
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just beer and wine. That's really all I
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wanted to add. But
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>> Okay.
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>> I feel like it goes over what we need
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to.
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>> Great. Thank you.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Okay.
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All right, commissioners. Um
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any questions on the application or any
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thoughts?
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>> I'll just share that I The restaurant is
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run very well, and I don't see any
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problem with this at all.
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>> Yeah, I agree.
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» If I could just add one thing. So, I
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Asmin did did cover it, but I just
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wanted to kind of hammer home. The last
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zoning district it was in, it was
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already a permitted use. By our own code
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amendments, it made it a conditional
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use. So.
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And there's no built-in standards or or
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uh
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you know, guidelines in our code for it.
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It's just
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listed as a conditional use.
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>> This is just a step in the process?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Right.
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>> [clears throat]
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>> Okay. Thank you for that.
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Okay.
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>> I can make a motion?
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>> You can make a motion if there's no
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further discussion.
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>> I make a motion that we approve
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this application.
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>> Okay, we've got a motion to approve by
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Commissioner Christopher. Do we have a
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second?
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>> I'll second.
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>> Second by Commissioner Russell. Any
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further discussion?
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Okay, let's vote. Commissioner Johnson.
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>> Yes.
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>> Commissioner Wood, yes. Commissioner
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Christopher.
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>> Yes.
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>> Commissioner Russell.
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay, the application is approved and
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it's unanimous.
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Thank you.
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>> Thank you guys.
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>> Certainly.
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Okay.
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» We'll just finish signing that
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conditional use permit and then it'll be
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ready probably by tomorrow.
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» Okay.
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Thank you. We will now move on to agenda
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item number one. This is a proposed
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code amendment prohibiting fuel tanks
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over 150 gallons in all residential
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zones.
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» Okay,
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for this it is changing several sections
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of code because it's going to apply to
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all residential zones.
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Um
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So, it's just prohibiting fuel tanks
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over 150 gallons.
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Our home occupation code already
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outlines that any
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Let me find it. Oh, yeah. Any home
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occupation which entails the use of
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chemicals exceeding typical household
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quantities, pesticides, inflammable,
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combustible materials
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um
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would require an operational permit, so
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it's already kind of in there.
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Um we just believe that anything over
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150 gallons wouldn't be needed in a
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residential use and should be kept to
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industrial or commercial zones.
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Um so, we've added it in the home
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occupation code and then in each
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residential zone in the use table, we've
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spelled out fuel tanks over 150 gallons
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is not permitted.
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So, your job today is to
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make a motion to
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recommend positively or negatively to
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the city council the code amendment
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to prevent fuel tanks over 150 gallons
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in residential zones.
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>> Okay. Thank you, Aspen.
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>> [clears throat]
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>> Um since we do have a public hearing
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tonight, let's proceed with the public
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hearing now on this agenda item. So, I
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will open the public hearing at 7:09 and
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invite any comments if anyone would like
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to comment on this proposed code
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amendment.
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Please state your name for us for the
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record.
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>> Yes, of course. My name is Jacob
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Frazier. I'm a
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resident here in Santaquin.
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Um yeah, I have a couple thoughts and
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comments on this proposed
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change. Um
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first off, you know, I I do question why
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150 gallons when most tanks
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sold for like agriculture use
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typically minimums are like 500 gallons.
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And if you go around our town, many
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households and old farms and stuff
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already have these large quantity tanks
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on their properties and are using them
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for various uses, whether it's
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continual agriculture use or whatever
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might be.
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And so, proposing something like this
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makes it now illegal for them to have
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these tanks that they've already had for
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who knows how long.
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And then the other um concern is
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or point I'd like to address is
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um
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I totally agree with the
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use of large quantities for
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commercial properties and things of that
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nature. Like, we don't necessarily need
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someone trying to have
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tons of flammable fuels in someone's
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neighborhood, right? However, I do
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question, again, why did we come up with
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a number like 150? You know, what
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purpose does that serve?
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You know,
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instead of just saying no, what are we
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doing about
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making something happen for if someone,
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like for example, is in a residential
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commercial
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based on the wording, this would still
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affect all residential zones, right? And
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that still falls under residential
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commercial or sorry, residential
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agriculture. A lot of these guys might
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still be using old tanks or other
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things, and there's a lot of regulations
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that, you know, you have to follow with
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uh containment and and things of that
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nature that these guys are already
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following, but now they can't if you
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reduce their quantity.
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Um
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so I just I think there's some things
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that maybe not have been thought of or
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maybe they have, and I just haven't
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heard them yet, and that's why we're
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here.
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Um another thought to it, too, is
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um
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I guess
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what danger are we trying to prevent
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with this code, right? Is there
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an event that happened? Is there
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something that happened that, hey, we
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need to try to prevent this? Or are we
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just trying to make another policy to
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prevent future
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decisions or actions from other people,
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right? Like, why are we burdening
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another code
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if there's no need yet? And if there's a
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need, I'd love to hear it. I'd love to
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understand what's happened, what's going
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on, so I can be educated as well. So,
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those are just some of my thoughts, and
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I'd love to hear from you guys. Thank
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you. All right, thank you, Mr. Frazier.
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Any other comments on this proposed code
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amendment?
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Okay, we will close the public hearing
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at 7:12, and we can move into
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discussion.
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Commissioners' thoughts on this code
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amendment?
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I had a similar question to Mr. Frazier.
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I was just um wondering where the 150
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gallons came from, and if there's any
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context about why the change is being
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proposed.
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>> That
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>> that's a great question. Um So, when we
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had talked with our fire marshal and our
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public works director,
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we were looking at really more of kind
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of a home occupation standpoint. So, if
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you have a home occupation, typically
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that's going to be for like your home
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offices or things that you do kind of
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directly within the home that have low
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impact. It could also accommodate things
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where you have like some customers. The
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idea was that we wanted to keep fueling
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operations located within the commercial
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districts cuz we do have a fueling
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station use that that's allowed within I
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believe the C1.
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district.
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And so,
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we wanted to make sure that like things
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that could potentially have impact,
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you know, something with fuel. If you
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have a lot of fuel and it ignites and
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you're and you're close to your
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neighbors,
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then you could have, you know, some
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really
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some some really significant impacts.
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And so, in talking with our public works
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director and our fire
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chief, their recommendation was
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we kind of looked at 100. They said bump
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it up to 150 cuz 150
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could be something that's more standard
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that could accommodate someone from a
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residential standpoint. If you have dirt
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bikes and four-wheelers and
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side-by-sides or if you have some
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equipment that you use on your property.
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So, the idea was that
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for your personal use up to 150, they
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felt like that was a safe amount to have
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stored and
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something I would be associated with a
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home occupation. So, if you have a truck
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that you use in your home occupation,
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then you'd be able to
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fuel that, but keeping it so that there
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was kind of a threshold
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that if you were above that, then really
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you should be in a commercial zoning
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category
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because it should be regulated at a
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higher level. So, that was the point was
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from a residential standpoint keeping it
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kind of lower especially with the home
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occupations and moving kind of fueling
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operations, um, those within like the C1 district.
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>> Okay, that makes sense. Thank you.
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Can you speak to what, um,
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Mr. Frazier talked about with the
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500-gallon non-at-residential
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agriculture? Do you know anything about
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anything like that or
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>> Um, I mean, it that that is something if
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you like it that this isn't a code that
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has to be approved today. We're we're
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bringing it forward in a public hearing.
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We believe it's ready, but if this is
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something you would like us to dig into,
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um, what further, we're we're happy to
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do so. Um, we don't want to impact the farmers in in in our community. And
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so, if, um,
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you know, if you feel like we need to
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have more of a delicate touch kind of in that regard. Our point with
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this was to make sure make make so that
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someone just running a home occupation
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wasn't running a a fueling operation and
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having people like pull into a
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residential neighborhood filling up like
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their their truck or landscaping
[14:20]
equipment and pulling out. I mean, that
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and um
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you know, if if it's not something like
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that's not done right, you could really
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impact your your your your neighbors on
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either side. And so, that was kind of
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where we decided that, you know, 150
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felt like a safe amount. Our fire
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marshal our fire chief felt comfortable
[14:36]
with that. Public Works Director felt
[14:37]
comfortable with that. Um, but yeah,
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we're our intent is definitely not to
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impact our our farmers and, um, the
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folks running the orchards. We want to,
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you know, make sure that they have what what they need. And so, um,
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yeah, that and I'm not sure if that
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would necessarily impact it. Do you want
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to add to this?
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>> We didn't deny the use in an
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agricultural zone.
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So, it would still be permitted for
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their equipment.
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>> What about residential ag?
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>> We didn't include it in there.
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>> Okay.
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>> Cuz they to be residential ag, you have
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to have at least 5 acres. So,
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there's more regulations already within
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that.
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>> All right.
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» I mean, the zones it does impact are R8,
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R10, R12, R15, R20.
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The residential commercial it only
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applies to the residential not the
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commercial aspect and then um
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R43.
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» Okay, thank you.
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Do you feel like that covers the
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concern?
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>> I think so.
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» All right, any other any other thoughts
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or questions on this one?
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» Instead of making it a non-permitted
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use, could you change it to for those
[15:55]
people that have already they store
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things there is there a possibility to
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make it a conditional use per basis
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compared to just taking it away all
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completely in residential zones?
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» Um you we could look at doing it as a
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conditional use.
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Um
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conditional uses can be tricky and we're
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trying to the state as a whole is trying
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to move away from them.
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Um
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if we were to go that route, we'd have
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to set specific conditions in the
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conditional use permit.
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Sure.
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>> And you've probably I'm sure you've all
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taken like the the training throughout
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the years. But a a conditional use
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permit I I do apologize I'm not trying
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to like talk down to down to you. I know
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you guys deal with this all the time.
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But conditional use permits in Utah it's
[16:43]
different state by state. I worked in
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Virginia and you you can actually deny a
[16:47]
conditional use permit. You don't need a
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ton of uh you know, facts or data. In
[16:51]
Utah though, conditional use permit is
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essentially a permitted use
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where you can you can apply conditions.
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Now, you can you can deny one if you can
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prove that there's a detrimental impact
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to the surrounding neighbor
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neighborhoods or to your to your
[17:04]
neighbor that cannot be mitigated
[17:06]
through the implication of of
[17:07]
conditions. And so if you can add a
[17:09]
condition that takes away the impact and
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so that's why from I guess from a staff
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standpoint we're always a little
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cautious about making something a
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conditional use cuz once it is, you
[17:18]
can't you can't really deny it. Um and
[17:21]
so like for instance with
[17:23]
Wild Thistle, great restaurant. So sorry
[17:25]
to use them as an example, but let's say
[17:27]
if you did want to deny that, you would
[17:29]
have a really hard time cuz you would
[17:31]
need to prove through data that allowing
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alcohol sales in the restaurant has a
[17:36]
detrimental impact that cannot be
[17:38]
mitigated through the imposition of
[17:39]
conditions. And so that that that's why
[17:41]
I mean we can definitely look at that if
[17:43]
you like us to or if you want us to to
[17:46]
cut a little little bit deeper or add
[17:47]
something to it, we can always come back
[17:48]
with the with with an amendment, but we
[17:51]
feel as written
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it would address our concerns and it
[17:54]
wouldn't impact on our farming
[17:55]
community.
[17:57]
>> Those those zones that you listed,
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that's only under 5 acres, right?
[18:01]
So it's it's basically the residential
[18:03]
areas that it that have
[18:05]
more of a high capacity of homes.
[18:07]
Is that correct?
[18:08]
>> Yeah. Yeah, that's a great that's a
[18:09]
great way of density is a lot higher.
[18:11]
Mhm.
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» Yeah, good point. I think I feel good
[18:15]
with that how it's written.
[18:16]
Um especially I'm glad to hear that it
[18:19]
doesn't impact the agricultural zones as
[18:21]
is and so I think that addresses most of
[18:23]
the concerns.
[18:26]
>> I agree. I'll just for Mr. Fraser, if
[18:28]
you find that there are homes that are
[18:30]
in those zones that are impacted, please
[18:31]
bring it back to City Council when it's
[18:33]
approved when it's presented there so
[18:34]
that you can all understand that as
[18:35]
well.
[18:36]
>> [clears throat]
[18:37]
>> And we're we're happy to to to to meet
[18:39]
with you, too, if you want to between
[18:41]
now and and City Council. If we we're
[18:43]
happy to dive into the code and meet
[18:45]
with them if you if you want to run
[18:46]
through it with us.
[18:47]
>> I think I think the purpose here is not
[18:48]
to impact those who are using things
[18:50]
correctly, just to make sure that we're
[18:51]
not providing danger for those who are
[18:53]
in a higher density area.
[18:56]
>> Um to that point, if there was someone
[18:57]
who was operating today with a
[18:59]
500-gallon tank,
[19:01]
um would they be subject to this new
[19:03]
code if it were approved?
[19:06]
>> We have what's called um
[19:08]
lawful nonconforming uses. And so we we
[19:11]
would have to look at that. Typically
[19:13]
and another thing you've dealt with
[19:15]
probably a lot and you've been on the
[19:17]
planning commission. But essentially
[19:19]
something was allowed or there wasn't a
[19:20]
code that restricted it. If they can
[19:23]
prove that they lawfully had that use in
[19:25]
place before the code changed then they they could still continue. But if
[19:30]
it didn't meet fire code or building
[19:32]
code cuz those still apply regardless of
[19:35]
what we're doing here. Any storage of
[19:37]
fuel that I mean there are I don't I
[19:38]
can't tell you the exact code but there
[19:40]
are code sections that do apply to to
[19:42]
storing fuel and so if they didn't meet
[19:44]
it then then they you know
[19:46]
they would have to upgrade regardless.
[19:49]
So but yeah if they had some something
[19:52]
that approved larger storage of fuel
[19:55]
then then it would be a lawful use that you know we wouldn't
[20:00]
come after them.
[20:01]
>> Okay, thank you.
[20:03]
All right commissioners any other
[20:04]
questions or concerns?
[20:07]
Seeing one ready to make a motion.
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» I'll make a motion that we recommend
[20:13]
the change of code as outlined in the
[20:15]
document.
[20:16]
>> Okay, we have a motion to
[20:18]
forward a positive recommendation. Do we
[20:20]
have a second?
[20:21]
>> I'll second that.
[20:22]
>> Seconded by Commissioner Johnson. The
[20:24]
motion was by Commissioner Christopher.
[20:26]
Any further discussion?
[20:29]
Okay, let's vote. Commissioner Russell.
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>> Yes.
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>> Commissioner Christopher.
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>> Yes.
[20:33]
>> Commissioner Wood. Yes. Commissioner
[20:35]
Johnson.
[20:35]
>> Yes.
[20:36]
>> Okay, that is forwarded with a positive
[20:37]
recommendation and it is unanimous.
[20:40]
Thank you.
[20:43]
Okay, we can move on now to
[20:45]
agenda item number
[20:47]
two.
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This is a another proposed code
[20:51]
amendment regarding permitting of
[20:53]
detached accessory dwelling units in all
[20:55]
residential zones.
[21:01]
» Um this one's very simple because it's
[21:03]
coming from the state.
[21:05]
It's in state bill 284
[21:09]
that was signed into law in March of
[21:10]
this year, which allows detached ADUs in
[21:13]
all residential lots greater than 11,000
[21:15]
square feet. Um, currently we already
[21:18]
allow detached ADUs in most residential
[21:21]
zones. So, the zones that would be
[21:23]
affected are the R12, the R20, the
[21:28]
residential commercial, and residential
[21:30]
ag, and residential 43 zone.
[21:35]
Um
[21:37]
Yeah, here
[21:39]
let me show you the zoning map.
[21:45]
And then, just like the last one, your
[21:47]
job is to forward a recommendation to
[21:50]
city council regarding the code
[21:52]
amendment.
[21:54]
But, like I said, it is state law, so we
[21:57]
will need to comply.
[22:00]
>> All right, thanks, Jasmine.
[22:01]
>> Mhm.
[22:02]
>> Okay, we have a public hearing on this
[22:04]
um agenda item as well, so we'll open
[22:06]
the public hearing at 7:23, and I'll
[22:08]
invite any comments if anyone would like
[22:10]
to comment on this agenda item.
[22:15]
Okay, if not, we will close the public
[22:17]
hearing at 7:23,
[22:18]
and we can move into discussion.
[22:24]
I think my only question, I mean,
[22:26]
obviously it's mandated by state code. I
[22:28]
was just um
[22:29]
it's sort of a tangent. Um, the state
[22:31]
requires the city to do moderate income
[22:34]
housing plans, and over the last several
[22:37]
years, this has been a tool the city has
[22:39]
used to comply with those requirements,
[22:41]
but I know some of those requirements is
[22:42]
have changed, also. So, I was just
[22:44]
curious how this will affect that going
[22:47]
forward.
[22:49]
>> Um, moderate income housing was on pause
[22:52]
for 2026. They did say that it is going
[22:55]
to start again in 2027.
[22:58]
Um, because of this change, I would
[22:59]
assume that if we do comply with state
[23:02]
code, they're not going to count this
[23:03]
out of as a strategy.
[23:05]
Um they haven't released like officially
[23:08]
what the moderate income housing reports
[23:10]
are going to look like for 2027. So,
[23:12]
there could potentially be some
[23:14]
flexibility, but
[23:16]
they're still working that out.
[23:18]
>> Okay, thanks. Sorry, that question was
[23:19]
not related to this agenda item.
[23:21]
>> No, that's okay. It's something to keep
[23:23]
in mind cuz we will be back here for it.
[23:26]
>> Yep, for sure.
[23:27]
Okay, commissioners, other questions?
[23:31]
» Does this address the parking that goes
[23:33]
along with that or is that going to be
[23:35]
brought later with it?
[23:38]
» Can you explain further what you mean by
[23:40]
the parking?
[23:41]
>> Um anything over it was 600 or 650, you
[23:44]
have to
[23:46]
you can't require more than two parking
[23:47]
and then anything under 600, it's one
[23:49]
parking. Is is that going to be
[23:50]
addressed with that or
[23:52]
later on?
[23:54]
>> Um the parking requirements are already
[23:56]
addressed in the general like attached
[23:59]
accessory dwelling unit chapter. So, yeah.
[24:05]
>> So, the city's still allowed to
[24:08]
regulate those ADUs, but we have to we
[24:10]
have to allow them.
[24:12]
Is that right? Like we can still make
[24:14]
rules around how they're
[24:16]
um
[24:17]
deployed, but we have to allow them.
[24:20]
>> Yeah, so that it has to be a permitted
[24:22]
use. We can still create
[24:24]
regulations and stuff. Currently, Santa
[24:26]
Quin does not have a permit or license
[24:29]
for them. If you choose to construct a
[24:31]
detached ADU, then you obviously need a
[24:33]
building permit, but it's not like a
[24:36]
here's a license to rent out this unit,
[24:38]
if that makes sense.
[24:39]
>> It does, thanks.
[24:41]
Yeah, the same. So, the same codes that
[24:43]
are in place, um we we would still
[24:45]
follow for ADU um development standards.
[24:48]
Um and then if we wanted to make changes
[24:50]
to those, we'd have to adhere to um the
[24:53]
state code requirements
[24:55]
um because they they do limit the amount
[24:56]
of parking that that that you can place.
[24:58]
But when I uh served in in Vineyard as
[25:01]
the plan planning director there, they
[25:03]
had
[25:04]
that's when we wrote our code. But I
[25:06]
think it was only like we could only
[25:08]
require one additional parking stall
[25:10]
into what you would require for a home.
[25:12]
So it was very limited what we could do.
[25:14]
>> Yeah.
[25:16]
>> But they said they they took that one
[25:17]
out, too. The minimum parking requirements.
[25:20]
>> I remember that being a recent change
[25:21]
and I think it affected our code as
[25:23]
well, right?
[25:24]
>> Yeah, we did.
[25:24]
>> Yeah.
[25:26]
Right.
[25:32]
» Okay. Yeah.
[25:36]
» Okay.
[25:38]
Anything else we need to discuss?
[25:41]
And if not, is anyone ready to make a
[25:42]
motion on this proposed code amendment?
[25:45]
>> I'll make a motion that we
[25:47]
uh
[25:47]
recommend a positive recommendation for
[25:50]
permitting the detached accessory
[25:51]
dwelling units in all residential zones.
[25:54]
>> Okay, thank you. We have a motion by
[25:55]
Commissioner Christopher. Do we have a
[25:56]
second?
[25:58]
>> I'll second that.
[25:59]
>> Second by Commissioner Johnson.
[26:02]
Um any further discussion?
[26:04]
Okay, let's vote. Commissioner Johnson.
[26:06]
>> Yes.
[26:07]
>> Commissioner Wood, yes. Commissioner
[26:08]
Christopher.
[26:08]
>> Yes.
[26:09]
>> Commissioner Russell.
[26:10]
>> Yes.
[26:10]
>> Okay, that's forwarded with a positive
[26:12]
recommendation and it is unanimous.
[26:15]
Very good, thank you.
[26:17]
Okay, that brings us to agenda item
[26:19]
number four. We need to approve the
[26:21]
minutes from our last meeting, which was
[26:23]
on June 9th, 2026.
[26:25]
Any discussion on those minutes before
[26:27]
we move ahead with approving them?
[26:29]
Okay, if not, would anyone like to make
[26:31]
a motion to approve?
[26:32]
>> I make a motion to approve.
[26:34]
>> Okay, we have a motion to approve by
[26:35]
Commissioner Christopher. Do we have a
[26:36]
second?
[26:37]
>> I'll second that.
[26:38]
>> Uh second by Commissioner Russell. All
[26:40]
in favor?
[26:41]
>> Yes.
[26:42]
>> Anyone opposed?
[26:43]
Okay, those minutes are approved and it
[26:45]
is unanimous.
[26:47]
That brings us up to staff reports.
[26:53]
» We don't have
[26:54]
anything to report.
[26:56]
» All right, very good. That won't hurt
[26:57]
our feelings.
[26:58]
>> And I'll I'll just add one thing. We do
[27:00]
have um and you're probably aware of
[27:01]
this, too. Um
[27:03]
we do have a budget for training. And so
[27:05]
I would say um we if you look at the
[27:08]
Utah APA conference, the fall uh um
[27:12]
the the fall conference, if if you could
[27:14]
Google that, it it'll be a lot of
[27:15]
information. So if you do want to go to
[27:17]
that, we we have um allocated funds. And
[27:20]
also, if the if you do find something as
[27:22]
well that's land use,
[27:25]
you know, urban design, anything that's
[27:26]
kind of related to to uh your functions
[27:28]
on the planning commission, if you let
[27:30]
us know, too, if you would rather do do
[27:31]
something else, then um then we we we
[27:34]
can uh we can try and accommodate that.
[27:36]
But I just wanted to let you know from a
[27:36]
training training standpoint, definitely
[27:39]
they're phenomenal, really great
[27:41]
conferences. They put a lot of effort
[27:42]
into them, and it'll it'll teach you
[27:44]
just a just a ton of good and new
[27:45]
information. And that's where you get a
[27:46]
lot of the new state code stuff, too, um
[27:48]
coming down the line, so.
[27:50]
Yeah, feel free to to look at that if
[27:52]
you have an interest. Um so we still
[27:54]
have a ways, but starting to get kind of
[27:56]
a head count now that'll help us from a
[27:57]
budgetary standpoint. Thank you.
[27:59]
>> Okay, cool. Thanks.
[28:01]
Okay, that brings us to the end. Um so I
[28:04]
would look for a motion to adjourn.
[28:06]
>> I I can make a motion to adjourn.