[0:00] evening it is 6:30 members of council

[0:01] are assembled when you're ready to

[0:04] begin um thank you the mayor is away

[0:08] today so you get the deputy mayor to

[0:09] chair the meetings which could be fun um

[0:12] we'll see how it goes I'd like to call

[0:14] to order this meeting of the town of

[0:16] Sagi Shores Committee of the whole it's

[0:18] Monday November the 11th 6:30 and I'd

[0:21] like to welcome everybody into the

[0:22] chambers and um all those watching at

[0:25] home um there are a lot of people in the

[0:27] chambers it's nice when we have three

[0:29] delegations from Community groups that

[0:31] are so active um first order of business

[0:34] uh tonight because of it being

[0:35] Remembrance Day is we're going to take

[0:37] um a moment um for silent reflection

[1:29] this I'll call on councelor halin to uh

[1:32] read Our Land

[1:34] acknowledgement thank you mayor Deputy

[1:37] Mayor we acknowledge that we are meeting

[1:39] on the traditional lands and treaty

[1:41] territory of the soin of jibu nation

[1:43] which consists of the chipas of soin and

[1:46] the chipa was of Nash unseated First

[1:49] Nation we understand this land holds

[1:52] immense significance to the people of

[1:55] sing abjo Nation we appreciate those who

[1:59] live and work alongside us today and who

[2:01] continue the traditions of their

[2:04] ancestors as stewards of the land we are

[2:07] privileged to inhabit we thank them for

[2:10] the contributions that they have made in

[2:12] both caring for the land and shaping

[2:14] this community we commit to Truth and

[2:18] Reconciliation to acknowledging the

[2:20] truth about what happened to indigenous

[2:23] people because of

[2:25] colonization and to

[2:27] reconciliation which begins with each

[2:30] and every one of

[2:32] us on this Remembrance Day I would like

[2:36] to we should recognize all the people

[2:39] from San first nation that served in

[2:41] both world wars and it's worth noting

[2:44] that they really per capita exceeded

[2:49] commitment to fighting those

[2:51] Wars and we acknowledge that we respect

[2:55] that and appreciate

[2:58] that as a a local government and public

[3:01] organization we are dedicated to

[3:03] learning about indigenous culture to

[3:05] fostering a better relationship with

[3:07] First Nations and their people and we

[3:09] commit ourselves to actions that move us

[3:11] forward on a path to Healing along with

[3:15] a soling of jib Boy

[3:18] Nation thank you at this point I'll ask

[3:21] if there's any pecuniary interests that

[3:23] need to be

[3:24] disclosed seeing none you can do that at

[3:27] any point during the meeting um if you

[3:28] need to we have no additions um or

[3:31] deletions or amendments to the agenda

[3:33] and there are no open Forum requests so

[3:35] we'll move on to our three delegations

[3:37] the first one is uh from the sagin

[3:39] memorial hospital foundation and it's a

[3:42] 2024 Grand Fondo update um we're

[3:45] welcoming Graham Martin to the podium

[3:48] and Graham you have 10

[3:52] minutes you might need to turn on the

[3:55] microphone check looks like it's on uh

[3:59] terrific thank you very

[4:00] much that might not stay up for me uh so

[4:05] thank you for having me today uh my name

[4:07] is gram Martin I'm the executive

[4:08] director of the SOI Memorial Hospital

[4:10] Foundation uh I recently started in that

[4:13] position uh just in July of this last

[4:15] year uh so a couple of reasons for

[4:17] coming today one was to introduce myself

[4:20] um the second is to talk a little bit

[4:21] about Grand Fondo uh as well as our

[4:24] plans moving forward as well as to thank

[4:26] the town uh for how great you've been to

[4:29] work with uh around Grand Fondo and

[4:31] other initiatives that we've

[4:33] had we did uh hire somebody uh to help

[4:36] with the event Greg rosson from

[4:38] performance-driven events and uh as we

[4:40] had a chance to get to know him and chat

[4:43] uh he made a comment that for all of the

[4:44] events that he runs around Ontario uh

[4:47] that sogging Shores was one of the best

[4:49] places and most Cooperative groups to

[4:51] work with uh he asked that I highlight

[4:54] that he said it's not the same in every

[4:55] Township or or city that he works in uh

[4:58] he said that people here were just

[5:00] fantastic so I wanted to pass that along

[5:02] as a word of

[5:04] thanks um I guess people don't have this

[5:07] in front of them so I'll uh I'll read

[5:08] just a few stats from here uh we really

[5:11] have an expanding population and it

[5:13] brings increased demand for service as I

[5:15] know this group is well aware uh but

[5:18] speaking in terms of the hospital in the

[5:20] 2023 2024 year uh we had

[5:25] 17,9 185 emergency department visits

[5:29] 6,00

[5:30] 9787 patient days uh almost 400,000 lab

[5:35] procedures over 9,000 Radiology

[5:38] procedures over 4,000 ultrasound

[5:41] procedures among other services and one

[5:45] piece that I wanted to highlight is the

[5:47] cost that these Services is rising and

[5:50] the government typically when we're

[5:51] looking for new equipment pays less than

[5:53] 10% of that and I think that was

[5:56] something coming into this role as much

[5:57] as I knew that fundraising was necessary

[5:59] Neary I didn't fully comprehend uh just

[6:02] how much fundraising is necessary uh to

[6:05] get the equipment that's needed uh and I

[6:07] think that's really highlighted when

[6:09] we're in a growing Community such as we

[6:11] are in terms of our grand Fondo event uh

[6:15] this year we had a great success we

[6:16] brought in about

[6:19] $420,000 and that was put toward

[6:21] purchasing new mography equipment

[6:23] resulting in a higher level of care for

[6:25] SOI Shores residents and this event was

[6:28] started in 2018

[6:30] and since that time it's raised 1.7

[6:32] million uh for healthc care so that's uh

[6:36] uh terrific and uh able to put that to

[6:38] our good use we're already in the

[6:41] planning stages for Grand Fondo

[6:43] 2025 uh we're looking at the weekend of

[6:46] August 16th uh to help with our decision

[6:49] making we actually sent out a survey uh

[6:52] through a professional company we sent

[6:54] it out to participants uh as well as to

[6:56] local businesses just to get feedback

[6:59] about the things that were going well uh

[7:01] the things that we could improve upon uh

[7:03] so that we could make it the best event

[7:05] that we can in terms of participant

[7:07] surveys we had uh almost 300 writers

[7:11] that responded and I've just highlighted

[7:13] a few little pieces um 57% of the people

[7:18] who attended uh were described as

[7:20] tourists and that they lived more than

[7:22] 40 kilometers away uh 87% said that

[7:25] they're very likely to return to the

[7:27] vent and it's estimated that Riders and

[7:30] their supporters spent approximately

[7:33] $768,000 at Grand Fondo uh that came

[7:36] through a number of areas uh anything

[7:39] from accommodations uh to food to

[7:41] shopping registration fees uh but a lot

[7:44] of people and a lot of money came into

[7:46] the

[7:47] area um we also surveyed a little bit

[7:50] around days of the week uh that were

[7:52] preferred in terms of Saturday or Sunday

[7:54] this is the first year that we had a

[7:55] Saturday event uh we did find that

[7:57] Riders overwhelmingly prefer the

[7:59] Saturday event um a few people said that

[8:03] they didn't have a preference but the

[8:04] majority preferred Saturday uh so even

[8:07] though we're in the initial stages of

[8:08] our planning uh we do anticipate that it

[8:11] will be on a

[8:12] Saturday in terms of the business survey

[8:15] um I tried to communicate with

[8:16] businesses uh leading up to the Grand

[8:19] Fondo because I was new to the position

[8:21] um I did go around to the businesses

[8:23] with a communication ahead of time uh

[8:25] letting them know the date the time what

[8:27] to expect those types of things um when

[8:30] we sent the survey around we didn't have

[8:32] a great response but we did have uh

[8:34] seven people who returned the survey uh

[8:37] and we really had a mixed bag we had

[8:39] some describe it as one of their best

[8:41] business days ever because of the influx

[8:43] of people uh we had others who described

[8:45] it as one of their worst business days

[8:47] ever uh because they didn't like the the

[8:49] downtown core being closed for the

[8:51] period of time that it

[8:53] was so I think moving forward uh and

[8:56] looking at the data from the surveys

[8:58] from the money that's been raised uh we

[9:01] feel that it's been a tremendously

[9:03] successful event uh it was named a top

[9:05] 2024 event or pardon me a top 100 event

[9:08] in

[9:09] 2024 uh and our intent is to continue to

[9:12] prioritize the grand Fondo as our

[9:14] Premier event uh we're always going to

[9:16] be looking for ways to improve um one of

[9:19] those areas will be around communication

[9:21] making sure that we're working with

[9:23] businesses and community members uh that

[9:25] so there aren't surprises and that we

[9:27] can uh put on a great event um I also

[9:30] want to acknowledge the business owners

[9:32] uh they've been supportive in lots of

[9:34] different ways uh I know this year we

[9:36] came around looking for prizes for a

[9:38] casino night that we had at the same

[9:39] time uh and they've been fantastic so we

[9:42] do want to work with them uh and we're

[9:44] hopeful that we can have a great grand

[9:46] Fondo event while at the same time uh be

[9:49] able to support businesses in our

[9:52] community so in terms of how the town

[9:54] can help I've just put a few little

[9:56] bullets here and again doing amazing

[9:58] things for us already so continuing that

[10:01] would be fantastic help us spread the

[10:03] word about our events uh share our posts

[10:05] on your local social media watch your

[10:08] mailbox for our fall and spring campaign

[10:10] letters uh participate donate or

[10:13] volunteer and uh we also request that

[10:16] Council again if possible wave the

[10:18] rental fee for a grand Fondo weekend so

[10:20] that all funds raised can be maximized

[10:22] and contributed to the

[10:24] hospital uh and I'll just put in one

[10:26] last plug we do have our radio thaon

[10:28] coming up it's Thursday December the

[10:30] 12th 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. uh and it's

[10:33] it's traditionally been a great event

[10:34] for the hospital so anybody is welcome

[10:36] to drop by if you'd like to be on the

[10:38] radio uh 98 the Bruce we'd love to have

[10:40] you there as a guest and we're looking

[10:42] forward to another successful event

[10:45] thank you very

[10:47] much thank you Mr Martin there were a

[10:50] number of requests there which uh the

[10:51] normal procedure is that um they get

[10:54] referred over to staff and we we get

[10:56] information and a report at at a later

[10:59] date concerning that concerning the asks

[11:01] um however I'll open it up to members of

[11:04] council any comments or questions

[11:05] councelor

[11:07] Grace thank you Madame Deputy Mayor um

[11:11] thank you gram and everyone on your

[11:14] board and and volunteer staff who help

[11:18] put this on and all the work you do to

[11:20] fund raise we're really fortunate to

[11:23] have um our hospital um in our community

[11:28] and uh I appreciate everything you're

[11:30] doing to support that um I've just got a

[11:33] question I don't know if I missed it

[11:34] somehow but um you talked about your

[11:37] survey and there were 289 writers that

[11:40] responded how many writers did you have

[11:43] in total oh sorry I don't think I did

[11:45] include that we had roughly 800 writers

[11:48] okay great and do you know how many what

[11:51] percentage of those are from out of town

[11:53] we don't for sure we can only sort of

[11:55] Project based on the people who uh

[11:57] completed the survey and from from the

[11:59] survey company I understand a response

[12:01] rate for this type of thing was fairly

[12:04] High even though initially it does sound

[12:06] fairly low but if you projected out uh

[12:08] you'd be looking at probably 70 or 80%

[12:11] of people 40 kilometers or more away

[12:14] well the amount spent um that weekend

[12:18] that's incredible so thank you very much

[12:21] um for your for your work again and your

[12:25] presentation and we do have a great

[12:27] staff and a great team of volunteers and

[12:29] and great support around the community

[12:31] so thank you as

[12:32] well are there any other comments

[12:35] questions councelor

[12:40] divinski thank you acting mayor um I

[12:44] just wanted to put in dibs that I've

[12:46] already booked in 7:30 a.m. on the uh

[12:51] radiothon on December 12th I believe you

[12:54] said grahe uh 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. you

[12:57] know the routine get in there give us

[12:58] your money have something to eat get out

[13:02] okay no not at all but uh enjoy yourself

[13:06] and I will be there uh helping out

[13:09] during that time and also helping out

[13:12] financially thank you we appreciate that

[13:15] thank you very much and that also sounds

[13:17] like a little bit of a challenge or an

[13:18] opportunity uh to spread the words so

[13:21] thank you for heading that

[13:23] off seeing no other comments I'll just

[13:26] offer um a repeat of what councelor gra

[13:29] said thank you very much for what you do

[13:31] for the community and um we look forward

[13:33] to hearing more seeing more and talking

[13:36] more about this over the next couple of

[13:37] months great thank you very much our

[13:41] second delegation tonight is from the

[13:43] Sagen Rail Trail Association another

[13:45] very active uh local group it's their

[13:47] annual update and I'll ask Dela AI did I

[13:51] come close with your name to come to the

[13:53] microphone you have 10 minutes sir hi

[13:56] can you hear

[13:57] me it's de a

[14:02] but so thanks for having me this will be

[14:04] fairly brief um I'm the president of the

[14:08] so real Trail Association that simply

[14:11] means I had a bunch of uh volunteers who

[14:15] spend a lot of time maintaining the

[14:17] trails that we love in the neighborhood

[14:20] so uh thanks to those who are here and

[14:22] thanks to those who are not here um I

[14:25] have only three slides really

[14:26] highlighting how 2024 went and

[14:29] summarizing what we plan for them next

[14:32] year um the first thing i' like to say

[14:35] off comment is that thanks very much to

[14:38] uh Council here and the town staff for

[14:40] working with us since I've joined the uh

[14:43] rail trail um Association it's been a

[14:45] great relationship um and um long may

[14:49] that

[14:49] continue um in 2024 we so our the trails

[14:54] are connected to several different

[14:56] Trails so each year we pick sections

[14:58] that we Main maintain and depending on

[15:00] what's needed we maintain it with you

[15:03] know we buy rocks and gravel and stuff

[15:05] like that and then community members

[15:07] show up with their equipment and their

[15:09] time and then we do the work so in

[15:11] essence that's what we do so in 2024 we

[15:16] upgraded the surface area between uh the

[15:18] 10th concession and Highway

[15:21] 21 and then along various parts of the

[15:24] trail there were number of trees and

[15:27] shrubs planted and then all those things

[15:30] need to be maintained throughout the

[15:32] year so volunteers show up and water the

[15:34] plant and keep everything looking nice

[15:36] and fresh um and then also along

[15:38] different parts of the trail we have

[15:40] folks patrolling and doing maintenance

[15:41] where there are issues we go and fix

[15:43] things um and along the trail are

[15:46] different areas with Gardens and grass

[15:48] that needs to be cut so again we have a

[15:50] schedule and folks show up and do that

[15:54] um hopefully because we're still in

[15:56] November we might by the end of this

[15:58] year have finished the um resurfacing

[16:02] from Highway 21 to South Street but that

[16:06] depends on the weather so if we not able

[16:08] to do that I'll push into next year's

[16:12] plan going to next year um the next

[16:15] patch we would like to resurface will be

[16:17] the area from South Street to McNab

[16:20] Street and then as we surface the trail

[16:22] we sort of clean around the brush and

[16:25] the bush around that um one area of

[16:28] particular importance to me uh is really

[16:32] we continue to advocate for safety

[16:34] around the connection between the trail

[16:35] and Highway 21 we understand that this

[16:39] is really more of an advocacy from the

[16:41] town as it's an MTO decision but this is

[16:45] an area that concerns a lot of people so

[16:47] we hope um we can get that resolved and

[16:50] it's not a tragedy that forces us to do

[16:52] that because I have been driving and

[16:54] seen people just standing there

[16:55] terrified to cross so that's quite a bit

[16:57] of a problem having said that we will

[17:00] still also like to improve sort of the

[17:03] um just as you stand there we want to be

[17:05] able to pave some of the shoulders to

[17:07] avoid a tripping Hazard particularly for

[17:09] folks who might have Mobility

[17:11] devices um but generally we want to

[17:13] improve safety in that particular area

[17:16] we will continue in 2025 with uh Trail

[17:19] maintenance along different

[17:21] portions um I would like to mention also

[17:23] that we plant trees and we get a lot of

[17:26] donations from trees for S green and

[17:29] also the town so I like to specifically

[17:30] call that out that will continue um and

[17:34] the trail has different access points

[17:36] and so those nodes have to be fixed and

[17:38] so that's in the

[17:40] plan additionally um we will repair and

[17:44] replace park benches and upgrade certain

[17:47] permeable bases in areas that you

[17:50] caned so at a high level that is the

[17:53] plan for

[17:55] 2025 um again to reiterate this is an

[17:58] organiz ganization of volunteers who

[18:00] donate their time their equipment um

[18:03] sometimes family show show up with their

[18:05] kids and do all the work and um I also

[18:08] like to say that we get a lot of thanks

[18:11] from community members um I was having a

[18:14] conversation with someone and I

[18:15] mentioned that probably the town can

[18:17] relate you know of 100 people who use

[18:19] your roads one person might call to

[18:21] complain about a p hole but there are

[18:23] thousands who enjoy it and don't say

[18:25] anything um but we appreciate both all

[18:28] the same um thanks for the comments open

[18:31] to any questions thanks for the time

[18:32] sorry open to any questions and

[18:34] comments thank you very much and again

[18:37] um any any followup will happen uh via

[18:41] our staff bringing us information but

[18:43] any comments questions from from members

[18:44] of council councelor

[18:47] Grace uh thank you Madame Deputy Mayor

[18:51] um thanks Stella for uh your leadership

[18:54] and the leadership of your board and all

[18:56] the work of the volunteers to keep this

[18:59] uh amazing uh resource open for us um I

[19:04] have a question actually for our manager

[19:06] of engineering uh to see if he has an

[19:09] update for us on the um Highway 21

[19:12] Crossing just a little bit of background

[19:14] that the town did uh present a

[19:18] delegation to the Ministry of

[19:20] Transportation in January of

[19:23] 2023 and uh I know that our staff has

[19:26] been diligent in in trying to work with

[19:29] the Ministry of Transportation to come

[19:31] to a resolution so um I asked Rahul if

[19:34] he would actually say something about

[19:35] that tonight I think he's got something

[19:38] to tell

[19:50] us good evening and through you Deputy

[19:54] Mayor with the councelor

[19:56] grace um actually I am working U on this

[20:02] Crossing since I

[20:05] started last year in March

[20:09] one I did also some research I found

[20:12] that actually this thing started maybe

[20:15] 20 years

[20:16] back I have all the documents actually I

[20:19] saved

[20:21] them in my

[20:23] folder anyway so um I have the documents

[20:27] that actually I did the followup with

[20:30] MTU uh at least from since last

[20:35] May I actually sent around 20 sorry 10

[20:40] emails to MTO and undering

[20:45] updates uh and we also had one meeting

[20:48] with them uh I think in last

[20:51] June and uh

[20:55] uh the problem is uh they have so many

[20:58] Chang changes in their in their Staffing

[21:01] uh Staffing that uh they lost track they

[21:05] lost track of this system like every

[21:08] time I U reached out to them I got new

[21:13] person who is dealing with this thing uh

[21:16] they have a office they called it uh

[21:19] Corridor management office they actually

[21:22] deal this thing on behalf of

[21:26] MTO uh so the last person actually now

[21:29] is dealing his name is Andrew

[21:32] Robertson uh he's the corridor

[21:34] management officer we had a meeting with

[21:36] them in last uh I think June 10th and in

[21:41] that meeting actually right after that

[21:43] meeting I followed up with the some ask

[21:47] that we received from The Rail Trail

[21:50] Association I

[21:53] asked to improve The Pedestrian crossing

[21:56] lights or install pedestrian causing

[21:59] lights at the

[22:01] intersection asphalt on both sides

[22:04] approaches just to make a smooth

[22:08] transition installing more visible

[22:11] signes on Highway 21 for this

[22:15] Crossing and then other options that

[22:17] like elevated Crossing Calvert Crossing

[22:21] for

[22:22] pedestrian asphalt shoulders all along

[22:25] the de section

[22:29] uh the response I got from

[22:32] MTO that that was only the one kind of

[22:35] positive response they said that MTU has

[22:39] facilitated several internal internal

[22:42] meetings to bring our functional offices

[22:47] back to back into discussions about this

[22:51] Crossing and that guy actually told that

[22:53] I am uh waiting some additional for some

[22:56] additional comments to be submitted

[22:59] back to our Corridor management office

[23:01] and we will forward them to you when

[23:04] made available so I received this uh

[23:09] email that was on uh I think on June

[23:13] 26 then again I followed up in July

[23:17] 26 one month after and the last response

[23:21] I received from them is August

[23:25] 27 uh they said thanks for following up

[23:27] on this application and your continued

[23:32] patience MTO Corridor management office

[23:35] is experiencing some internal Staffing

[23:40] changes and responsibilities and an

[23:45] unprecedented volume of permit inquiries

[23:48] at this time we will endeavor to further

[23:52] process the trail permits and additional

[23:55] approvals should be made available

[23:57] shortly that I received last August 27

[24:01] and since then I also followed up couple

[24:04] of uh email in in September in October

[24:08] also just today and waiting for their

[24:11] response but since August 27 I haven't

[24:15] received any respones long

[24:18] M that's the

[24:22] update thank you very much for that rul

[24:25] um you as well as a number of other

[24:27] staff members Contin to ask questions

[24:30] and I know members of council have also

[24:32] taken opportunities at conferences so we

[24:34] just must keep trying thank you very

[24:36] much are there any other comments

[24:38] councelor halin thank you Deputy Mayor

[24:40] and through you I'd just like to I am

[24:44] the council representative on the rail

[24:46] trail and I'm honored to work with the

[24:49] rail trail and uh I'd like to thank all

[24:51] the members of the association and their

[24:54] volunteers for their commitment and

[24:56] contribution to the community the real

[24:58] Trail is a lot more than just a

[25:00] trail it's it it's the benches it's the

[25:05] trees it's the bird houses it's the

[25:08] facilities like the rail trail building

[25:10] and the Memorial Garden it's the trees

[25:12] planted it's the flower gardens and it's

[25:15] also the mobilization of all kinds of

[25:18] volunteers formal and informal that do

[25:21] everything from putting up the bird

[25:22] houses to cutting lawn along the side so

[25:25] thank you to all the committee members

[25:27] because you've made a a great

[25:29] contribution to our community and I

[25:31] could imagine what our community would

[25:33] be like without that rail trail so thank

[25:44] you are there any other comments okay

[25:47] our third delegation tonight is from

[25:50] cfuw the Canadian Federation of

[25:52] University women Southport chapter um

[25:55] odet bar Bart Niki is going to make

[25:58] presentation on National Day of

[26:00] remembrance and action on violence

[26:02] against women you have 10

[26:04] minutes Madame Deputy Mayor Huber

[26:07] members of council staff zfu members and

[26:13] fellow citizens of sogging

[26:15] chores as you heard my name is odet

[26:18] bartnicki and I'm here on behalf of 115

[26:21] members of the Canadian Federation of

[26:24] women Southport we use the acronym cfuw

[26:28] you for short we are here to support the

[26:31] notice of motion put forth by counselor

[26:34] Grace asking Council to declare intimate

[26:38] partner violence ipv an

[26:42] epidemic for 33 years on December 6

[26:46] annually cfuw Southport has hosted a

[26:50] vigil in remembrance of the 14 young

[26:53] women who were killed simply because

[26:56] they were women at a coal po technique

[26:59] in Montreal in

[27:02] 1989 many members of council have

[27:05] attended the vigil over the years and we

[27:08] hope you will do so again this

[27:11] year when I spoke before Council on

[27:14] November 27th

[27:17] 2023 I mentioned other municipalities

[27:20] including our neighbors karton to the

[27:23] South which had already declared that

[27:27] ipv is an

[27:29] epidemic I was then asked by a member of

[27:33] council about my use of the term

[27:35] epidemic to describe

[27:39] ipv I didn't answer that question very

[27:41] well last

[27:43] year but tonight I will share with you

[27:46] Miriam Webster's definition of epidemic

[27:50] and I

[27:51] quote affecting or tending to affect a

[27:56] disproportionately large number of the

[27:58] individuals within a population

[28:01] community or

[28:02] region excessively

[28:05] prevalent or characterized by WID spread

[28:09] growth or

[28:12] extent sadly the incidence of violence

[28:15] against women intimate partner violence

[28:18] human trafficking and femicide does meet

[28:21] that

[28:23] definition one woman or girl is killed

[28:27] in Canada every 48

[28:30] hours over 50% of all murders in Canada

[28:35] are classified as

[28:37] femicides and they are ipv related ipv

[28:41] meaning a former or present

[28:44] partner Ontario alone has seen 52

[28:48] femicides in 44

[28:50] weeks and the most recent that you will

[28:53] have seen in the news is an Ottawa

[28:55] mother of four killed in broad daylight

[28:58] just a couple of weeks

[29:00] ago rural communities like ours are 75%

[29:05] more likely to experience ipv than urban

[29:09] areas and we have fewer resources to

[29:13] support the victims and their

[29:16] families sadly four out of 10 shelter

[29:20] residents we have the three shelters uh

[29:23] available to us four out of 10 residents

[29:26] are children

[29:28] and they attend our local

[29:30] schools 44% of Canadian women have

[29:35] experienced a form of

[29:37] ipv uh after the age of 15 indigenous

[29:41] women are three times more likely to

[29:43] experience

[29:45] this two in three people in this room

[29:49] know a woman who has experienced

[29:52] physical sexual or emotional abuse and

[29:56] some of those women are in in the room

[29:58] with us

[30:00] tonight most incidents go unreported to

[30:03] police who are required by law to report

[30:07] occurrences of Domestic and Sexual

[30:10] Violence human trafficking and domestic

[30:13] homicide to a federal database every

[30:17] year our local police have given us

[30:19] those data that data between April

[30:24] 2018 and March 2024 so six years

[30:28] basically sogging Shores police reported

[30:32] hold on to your hats

[30:35] 633 occurrences in three of the four

[30:40] categories thankfully no femicide was

[30:43] reported in this period but we think

[30:47] those numbers do meet the definition of

[30:53] epidemic we want to acknowledge our

[30:56] local police service has provided its

[30:58] specialized ipv response training which

[31:02] is not included in the 2-year police

[31:04] College training programs in our

[31:06] Province they provided it to nine of our

[31:09] officers which we think is just

[31:12] fabulous sing chores Police Service has

[31:16] also been a proactive partner in raising

[31:19] awareness locally along with Bruce gry

[31:22] Public

[31:24] Health council members may be aware that

[31:27] just last week over

[31:29] 250 citizens gathered at Faith Lutheran

[31:32] Church in Port Elgen to participate in

[31:36] the anti-human trafficking event hosted

[31:39] by Port Elgen

[31:41] rotary that shows how many people in our

[31:44] community here and we know our community

[31:47] cares we know you care too we are aware

[31:52] that in January of this year you

[31:55] endorsed the Declaration made by Gage we

[31:59] hope you will join over 100 other

[32:02] Ontario

[32:04] municipalities and vote to make the

[32:06] Declaration that intimate partner

[32:08] violence is an epidemic when it comes

[32:12] back before you on November

[32:14] 25th we invite members of council and

[32:18] all members of our community to join us

[32:21] at our 34th annual vigil at 12: noon at

[32:26] Coulter parquette on December 6 this is

[32:29] the day we Mark national day of

[32:32] remembrance and action on violence

[32:35] against women we also ask as we did in

[32:39] previous years that the town's flag be

[32:41] lowered on that

[32:43] day together these actions demonstrate

[32:47] that all forms of gender-based violence

[32:50] are not acceptable in sogging chores and

[32:53] most importantly that sends a message to

[32:57] our victim

[32:58] it sends a message of Hope to them and

[33:00] their

[33:02] families finally our sincere thanks to

[33:05] counselor Grace for bringing the notice

[33:07] of motion before

[33:09] you and thank you all for allowing us to

[33:15] delegate thank you odet um there was a

[33:17] request there related to the flag um do

[33:21] we need to do

[33:22] anything they've already got it on on a

[33:25] schedule there are there any comments

[33:28] questions from any member of council

[33:30] councelor daninsky

[33:33] thank you acting mayor and through you

[33:37] toet odet thank you very much uh for

[33:40] that presentation thank you to the cfuw

[33:44] Southport for all they do especially at

[33:48] this time of year um there are many

[33:51] people that can't get to a noon

[33:55] presentation on December 6th and I fall

[33:58] into that category this this year is

[34:02] there something else we can do to be to

[34:05] be part of

[34:08] this we have discussed holding it at

[34:11] different times and I I dare say we will

[34:14] again we are aware of that um something

[34:17] else that's changed for us is our

[34:19] membership which is about5 as we we

[34:23] stand tonight uh many of them are

[34:26] full-time working people

[34:28] so that's changing our organization as

[34:30] well and that's something we'll take

[34:32] back and discuss our our chairs are in

[34:34] the room tonight for that

[34:37] committee he thank you and if I may

[34:40] acting mayor um I don't know I can't

[34:43] recall and with all due respect who

[34:48] said asked you for a definition of that

[34:52] pandemic as I've heard my good friend uh

[34:56] Vice Deputy Mayor my might say time and

[34:59] time again on one subject or another

[35:01] even one case is one too many and I

[35:07] stand by that and I do agree with you

[35:11] there is an epidemic and it has to be

[35:14] addressed thank you very much thank you

[35:16] if I could just add one more comment we

[35:20] do um use three shelters for women in

[35:24] our community and members of

[35:28] cfuw um do take donations around the

[35:31] vigil and we take it um e transfers

[35:34] checks cash in your pocket if you happen

[35:37] to show up and then we make little

[35:39] visits in in pairs and last year I was

[35:42] struck um going with uh one of our

[35:45] members down to Karden new Young manager

[35:48] there and she told us that the three

[35:50] shelters had not had one cent in

[35:53] increase for over six

[35:56] years however the incidents and the need

[35:59] they do at all three shelters have to

[36:01] turn people away and sometimes it's

[36:04] people with

[36:05] children so um that's another thing we

[36:08] do is we do try to support our shelters

[36:11] a little bit around that occasion thank

[36:13] you thank you councelor stack and then

[36:16] councelor hin so thank you for the

[36:19] presentation um I just wanted to make

[36:21] one note on uh domestic violence in our

[36:24] community so I used to sit on the board

[36:27] for the women's house in Karden and I

[36:29] had the opportunity to help a woman who

[36:32] was the victim of abuse and I sort of

[36:35] experienced I watched her do the intake

[36:37] which can be quite traumatic and um

[36:41] unintentionally dehumanizing you have to

[36:44] basically strip down the to one layer of

[36:47] clothing everything you own gets washed

[36:49] for fear of you know any manner of of

[36:51] issues that can come in in shared

[36:53] housing um and then you have to sort

[36:55] through that and you have to do that

[36:56] before you actually enter the shelter

[36:58] itself so there's an intake Bay where

[37:00] you're sat with um a representative

[37:03] yourself you have your children you go

[37:05] through this process before you even

[37:06] enter the services if I recall you get

[37:09] six or eight weeks there and then you go

[37:10] into second stage housing and the second

[37:12] stage housing can be very challenging

[37:14] and you're often dealing with women in

[37:18] this case who are very economically

[37:21] disadvantage so people who may never

[37:23] have earned income who have never filed

[37:25] their taxes who are struggling to manage

[37:28] through the trauma of that abuse

[37:30] managing their children managing a new

[37:32] home typically away from their families

[37:35] um so I share that as just a a to sort

[37:37] of reiterate and reinforce the

[37:39] significant effect that do domestic

[37:41] violence can have on women in this

[37:43] community and I think because of the

[37:45] affluence in our community it often goes

[37:48] unnoticed but there are shelters as you

[37:50] noted in Port Elgen and K Carden in owwn

[37:53] that are always full um and so I think

[37:56] when we talk about and I know the motion

[37:58] comes in regular Council but when we

[37:59] talk about recognizing the epidemic I

[38:01] think it's I will certainly support that

[38:03] I think it's also important to recognize

[38:05] just the sheer impact that these events

[38:07] can have on women and it is often a

[38:09] cycle and it often takes when you're in

[38:11] those situations it's often many times

[38:14] they have been through the shelter

[38:15] system or gotten close to the shelter

[38:17] system before they actually make it out

[38:18] so I think it's just important to

[38:19] recognize how significant that impact

[38:21] can

[38:24] be councelor halin

[38:28] thank you and through you Deputy Mayor

[38:30] odet and to your group just as a a

[38:34] brother who has four sisters and uh a

[38:38] father who has three daughters thank you

[38:41] thank

[38:46] you any other councelor

[38:49] Grace thank you Deputy Mayor um I I know

[38:54] that odet mentioned the fact that uh our

[38:56] Police Services and our police chief um

[39:01] have worked with cfuw

[39:04] Southport um

[39:07] to provide um I think some joint funding

[39:13] and uh that's being used to assist with

[39:18] um promotional materials and educational

[39:21] Publications and that kind of thing and

[39:23] so I would just want to make um a note

[39:26] of the fact that I appreciate the the

[39:30] leadership um not just of cfuw Southport

[39:34] and the team that's uh setting up and

[39:37] running our vigil this year but also uh

[39:39] our Police Services who usually provide

[39:41] a speaker who provide upto-date

[39:45] um statistics for us and to provide that

[39:48] monetary support um to and and I know

[39:53] from having attended the um anti-human

[39:56] trafficking um seminar on Wednesday

[39:59] night um and hearing the comments of

[40:02] Inspector Jeremy miten uh on what's

[40:06] Happening that our police services does

[40:08] so much more on this issue um to support

[40:12] victims so thank

[40:16] you thank you councelor Grace that that

[40:18] was going to be a comment I made as we

[40:20] we Segway over to the next part of our

[40:22] meeting just to say that um I can't be

[40:25] sure because I can't see the viewership

[40:27] on on my computer screen but I do

[40:28] believe um a number of police officers

[40:31] police Personnel are are zoomed in

[40:34] watching us on YouTube and and your

[40:36] comments um will be very appreciated by

[40:39] the service and also by The Police

[40:41] Service Board that councelor daninsky

[40:42] and I will take those comments with us

[40:44] um to the next Police Service board

[40:47] meeting seeing the end of the

[40:49] delegations we have no public meetings

[40:51] tonight we'll move on now to um staff

[40:54] reports um the first one up um will be

[40:57] of interest to some people in the

[40:58] audience it's about the Aquatic and

[41:00] Wellness Center operations and

[41:01] management plan so um without further

[41:05] Ado um I will call on Lisa billing to

[41:10] make a

[41:13] presentation I I thought by giving you

[41:15] that intro some some of them might have

[41:18] stayed Aquatics and Wellness Center I

[41:21] appreciate intro

[41:55] Okay so

[41:58] thank you Deputy Mayor Huber and members

[42:00] of council tonight I am excited to share

[42:02] the draft operations and management plan

[42:05] for the new sogging Shores Aquatic and

[42:06] Wellness Center commonly referred to as

[42:08] the

[42:09] AWC also included as attachments with

[42:12] the draft plan are the results summary

[42:14] from this Summer's Community engagement

[42:16] campaign and a draft framework for the

[42:19] aw for the proposed AWC fees and charges

[42:22] the draft plan is a result of advancing

[42:25] the AWC activation and trans transtion

[42:27] plans throughout 2024 and integrates

[42:29] feedback received during Community

[42:31] engagement the intent of the draft plan

[42:33] is to provide council with a high level

[42:35] overview of the approach and principles

[42:37] guiding the operational planning for the

[42:39] AWC and to seek Council

[42:42] feedback overall there is General

[42:44] excitement in the community about the

[42:46] programming and possibilities available

[42:47] at the ad and the possibilities at the

[42:49] AWC key themes that came through the

[42:52] community engagement include a place for

[42:55] families to participate together that

[42:57] membership options are important there's

[43:00] a desire for Innovative programs that

[43:02] maximize multi-use facility areas

[43:04] recreational Sport and play for all ages

[43:07] programming Beyond physical health and

[43:09] movement a desire for cross programming

[43:12] between facility areas adults and

[43:15] seniors who want to improve their

[43:16] physical health with community and with

[43:19] each other welcoming Community use like

[43:22] rentals and that barrier-free access

[43:24] including Financial access is important

[43:27] these themes have been considered while

[43:28] developing the draft plan and they

[43:30] continue they will continue to guide the

[43:32] detailed planning and development of

[43:34] programming Service delivery and

[43:35] operational standards the draft plan is

[43:38] focused around key seven key operational

[43:40] areas highlighted in the report each

[43:43] section of the report includes a summary

[43:45] of that section and the page number

[43:47] where information can be located within

[43:49] the within the

[43:50] report or within the plan itself key

[43:53] areas of the plan include Community

[43:56] engagement operational objectives

[43:58] performance and service

[44:00] levels General operations marketing and

[44:04] Communications affordable Recreation

[44:07] Financial forecasts and risk

[44:09] analysis within the general operations

[44:12] section the plan speaks to hours of

[44:14] operating areas of

[44:17] responsibility participation

[44:18] participation structures and program

[44:21] development it has been just over a year

[44:23] since I presented the AWC activation

[44:25] plans Act ation and transition plans to

[44:28] council about 13 months if we want to

[44:30] really get down to it um it is an

[44:33] incredible feeling to be standing here

[44:35] tonight in front of council to share

[44:37] with you what we heard from the

[44:38] community and how that feedback has

[44:39] helped to shape the draft plan is

[44:41] delivered tonight a final plan will be

[44:43] presented in Q2 of 2025 along with a

[44:46] recommendation to amend the 2025 fees

[44:49] and charges bylaw the final plan is

[44:51] intended to further refine the AWC

[44:53] program and service offerings as well as

[44:56] the program structure

[44:57] outline a preliminary opening schedule

[45:00] support the proposed AWC fees and

[45:02] charges and outline criteria for

[45:04] accessing the affordable Recreation

[45:06] program I would like to thank our staff

[45:08] team Council and the community for their

[45:10] support that has got us to this point

[45:12] feedback and support has been integral

[45:15] integral to the development of this

[45:16] draft plan and will continue to guide us

[45:19] as we advance towards opening the doors

[45:22] and bringing this new operation to life

[45:24] thank you for your time and I welcome

[45:26] questions and comments from members of

[45:28] council thank you to the manager of

[45:30] recreation for her report are there any

[45:33] comments questions the vice Deputy Mayor

[45:35] yep thank you Deputy Mayor um Lisa

[45:38] thanks very much for this report you've

[45:40] uh you really aced it uh that that

[45:43] that's tremendous amount of work and uh

[45:46] it's so well laid out very impressive

[45:48] and U it really sets the course you know

[45:51] for next November when we open up our

[45:53] facility so I really really commend you

[45:55] for the uh excellent job you've done I

[45:58] did have a few uh comments questions um

[46:02] the I was interested when we looked at

[46:04] the five key areas of Aquatics

[46:06] Recreation Fitness Leisure and

[46:09] stem um that caught my eye and U there's

[46:13] a strong interest in STEM related

[46:15] activities include robotics coding

[46:18] classes science experiments both

[46:21] children and

[46:22] adults so that really caught my eye in

[46:25] terms of this is an aquatic and Wellness

[46:27] Center so H how did that come about yes

[46:31] so through you uh Deputy Mayor we

[46:34] included that just as another area of

[46:38] activity that the community is

[46:40] interested in so Leisure and social

[46:43] activities combined into Aquatics and

[46:45] wellness but we thought let's just ask a

[46:47] couple questions outside of you know

[46:50] kind of that core Recreation programming

[46:53] um so we wanted to dabble into the area

[46:55] around stem to see if was interest in

[46:57] the community we recognize that there

[46:59] are Partners we're standing in the

[47:01] nuclear Innovation Institute they offer

[47:04] uh some amazing programming around um

[47:07] Robotics and um Ai and all of the stem

[47:12] activities that they are doing as part

[47:14] of their explore program um so I think

[47:17] it's not necessarily an area that we

[47:19] would lead all on our own but maybe look

[47:22] to work with Partners if there's an

[47:23] opportunity to expand that programming

[47:25] even more broadly

[47:27] okay I just Aquatics Wellness Center I

[47:31] just I I I was just wondering what path

[47:33] were heading down with their programming

[47:35] that's all but it was an interesting U

[47:37] it was an interesting read when I saw

[47:39] that um the uh the other comments I had

[47:44] was about that I didn't see in here was

[47:46] I know people do travel on sound for

[47:48] this program it's a cardiac rehab

[47:50] program uh which very popular over there

[47:53] maybe I missed it in the report but is

[47:55] that something we will be considering I

[47:57] know there's the medical profession has

[47:58] to be involved obviously doctors nurses

[48:00] Etc but it's a very successful program

[48:03] over there and it's save an our drive to

[48:05] get to that program is that something

[48:06] we're considering as part of the Aquatic

[48:08] and wellness center it's not something

[48:11] that's currently part of this dra plan I

[48:13] think that would be a discussion with uh

[48:15] bright Shores in terms of where those

[48:18] programs operate and if that's something

[48:20] that we are interested in integrating

[48:23] into the AWC I really think we should

[48:25] consider it because and you worked in

[48:28] sou family why years ago and it it's a

[48:30] very popular program I don't know

[48:31] whether it is still today but over the

[48:33] years I've had many people comment

[48:34] that've got to drive D and sound for the

[48:36] program and I think why not do it right

[48:38] here because I think that can attract

[48:39] some some some some you know different

[48:42] clientele users into our facility and

[48:44] what a better way to rehabilitate than

[48:46] get into the PO for some cardiac rehab

[48:50] so I think that' be something if if

[48:52] staff could consider I think it be a

[48:53] good thing um on page uh 25 a bit of a

[48:59] concern for me and that's the free uh

[49:02] Community walking time and you know I

[49:06] I'm sure people in the community that

[49:08] mind gu you know cutting out free

[49:10] community walking time for the walking

[49:11] Track but you know in year one I think I

[49:14] read a $1.2 million operating deficit

[49:16] it's going to come down

[49:17] substantially in year two to 4 500 and

[49:21] then all the way down to zero hopefully

[49:22] in the over the next four five six years

[49:25] but I think we ought to to be careful

[49:27] with with giving out uh too many free

[49:31] things right in the beginning because

[49:33] you give it out free in the beginning

[49:34] it's really hard to charge lader and uh

[49:37] I I saw with this a six-month walking

[49:39] Track membership but I guess my question

[49:41] is and I think that's a good thing take

[49:44] my wife for example one thing she'

[49:45] joined is pay $100 $150 every six months

[49:49] for to use the walking Track however if

[49:53] you know if you know if you had if you

[49:55] had 3 400 those at $60,000 a

[49:59] year potentially um but you got free

[50:03] walking Track Time mornings afternoons

[50:05] and evenings and weekends and that that

[50:08] caught my eye too Lisa in terms of I I'm

[50:11] not sure we should be doing that and and

[50:13] what so what you know the people that

[50:17] were thinking about buying memberships

[50:18] for the walking Track and I think we

[50:20] need to think to take a look at all

[50:22] revenues um why why would people just

[50:26] not go morning afternoons evenings

[50:28] weekends to the free walking time and

[50:32] and foro the

[50:34] membership uh through you Deputy Mayor

[50:38] the intention for the free indoor track

[50:41] access um is not necessarily to say that

[50:44] it's every weekday every weekend every

[50:46] evening um there would be defined times

[50:50] um where access would be provided at no

[50:54] cost however um it wouldn't be all of

[50:57] the time um so that is sort of the

[50:59] intention of how council could support

[51:03] um free participation through sort of

[51:06] scheduled program times it did it did

[51:09] say afternoon evening weekends and um I

[51:12] just think if someone's going to go to

[51:13] use a walking Track three or four times

[51:14] a week why buy the membership for $150

[51:17] for six months why not just go to the

[51:19] free walking times I just think we need

[51:21] to take a look at with with when I take

[51:24] a look at a $1.2 million offering

[51:26] deficit year one I know that's a little

[51:27] misleading I get that um but because it

[51:30] really dropped substantially a year two

[51:32] as full memberships come in for the full

[51:33] year but I really think we should take a

[51:35] look at what what we're giving away with

[51:38] our $50 million facility that we ought

[51:41] to be very careful with that so we just

[51:43] want to plant that seed for uh the fees

[51:45] and charges will come to council when

[51:48] when we'll be able to take a look at

[51:49] that walking Track membership for

[51:51] example yeah it will come to Council in

[51:53] Q2 um of 2025 so probably around May or

[51:57] June next year May or June well look

[52:00] I'll be speaking to that again when it

[52:02] comes I because I just think we ought

[52:04] ought to take a look at that

[52:07] um one second

[52:10] here my organized

[52:13] notes I think um you know on page

[52:18] um 24 I think no no there was in one of

[52:22] the pages anyway it said 85% of those

[52:24] surveyed felt that keeping the Aquatic

[52:26] and Wellness Center affordable as a high

[52:28] priority and um you know I think it's

[52:31] important to not turn people away people

[52:34] who can afford to pay need to pay but

[52:37] people cannot afford to pay I'm glad to

[52:39] see that there's a subsidy program in

[52:40] there I think that's really important

[52:42] and uh so I'm glad that's that's

[52:44] included and um because we need you know

[52:48] I I think it's important regardless of

[52:50] your ability to pay you need to able to

[52:51] use the

[52:52] facility um

[52:59] I think that's all I had had had for now

[53:02] I I I just really um really really

[53:05] impressed with the report again um leis

[53:08] and and the uh percentage of those that

[53:11] were survey I think there was really

[53:13] good Community input by the sounds of it

[53:15] did I see 500 someplace where there

[53:17] about 500 people responded to the survey

[53:19] yes that's correct yeah just under 500

[53:21] responses which is amazing great there

[53:25] again job w

[53:27] thank

[53:29] you anyone else councilor

[53:34] divinsky thank you acting mayor and

[53:37] through

[53:38] you a great report thank you very much

[53:41] for that lots of

[53:43] information under project

[53:46] scheduling it could be just me but it

[53:51] says the draft plan is based on the

[53:54] current construction schedule

[53:57] do that mean the construction schedule

[53:59] changed from the original one and if so

[54:03] are we

[54:05] behind the reference to the current uh

[54:08] construction schedule refers to the

[54:11] schedule update that Council received in

[54:14] September with the fundraising update

[54:15] with the fall 2025

[54:19] occupancy through you

[54:23] so what we're saying here is that uh uh

[54:26] the occupancy of the AWC and the second

[54:29] floor municipal office expected in Fall

[54:33] 2025 that's correct

[54:35] okay that wasn't in the original plan it

[54:38] was going to be sooner than that was it

[54:41] not when the AWC activation and

[54:44] transition plans were presented last

[54:46] October the occupancy was anticipated

[54:50] for July

[54:52] 2025 okay and

[54:54] finally um a soft opening of the

[54:58] AWC is expected in November and

[55:01] obviously you're talking about next

[55:04] November not this month that's correct

[55:06] yes November

[55:08] 2025 okay I saw our community services

[55:12] director get up uh kisten nothing

[55:15] everything's answered

[55:17] correctly okay I have uh one more

[55:21] question this uh has to do with the

[55:24] performance and levels of

[55:29] service for those that have memberships

[55:32] at Centennial pool

[55:34] currently I assume those memberships

[55:37] will transfer to the new facility

[55:41] automatically and they won't be

[55:43] surprised with a a price increase until

[55:47] the next go around how's that going to

[55:50] work sure yes we currently have um a

[55:53] one-year uh membership option at the

[55:55] Centennial as well as a six-month

[55:57] membership option and the ab

[55:59] availability to purchase 10 or 20 visit

[56:02] Punch Cards we have pause purchasing

[56:05] one-year memberships at the existing

[56:08] facility in anticipation of uh new

[56:12] quatic memberships for the AWC however

[56:14] the six-month memberships as well as

[56:16] Punch Cards can still be purchased okay

[56:18] and should they

[56:20] overla they will be honored at the new

[56:23] facility until they expire

[56:26] correct if there was a period of time

[56:28] that they would be overlapping with

[56:29] operations of

[56:31] AWC okay thank you thank you Deputy

[56:33] Mayor councelor

[56:37] Grace thank you uh Madame Deputy Mayor

[56:40] and thank you Lisa this is a fantastic

[56:42] report um long but very interesting and

[56:47] um uh pretty inspiring actually and

[56:51] exciting uh to see what what awaits us

[56:55] um I just wanted to I I don't really

[56:58] think I have questions but I just wanted

[57:00] to make a note of some things that I was

[57:02] very pleased to see um the vice Deputy

[57:06] Mayor talked about the um emphasis from

[57:09] the survey about

[57:12] affordability and uh how we had an 85%

[57:16] response rate from a very healthy

[57:19] surveyed number um being in favor of

[57:22] that and I that says a lot about our

[57:25] community and our

[57:27] generosity uh so that's that's great um

[57:30] the emphasis upon accessibility

[57:33] barrier-free

[57:34] access um the emphasis upon um making

[57:40] this a family Hub um youth programs with

[57:44] teen kns and youth soccer and basketball

[57:47] that's been something that we've heard I

[57:49] think through our recreational Master

[57:51] plans through the years that that's

[57:53] something we're missing so that's really

[57:55] wonderful see that as well as all of

[57:58] these other um support activities social

[58:01] activities um book clubs card games arts

[58:05] and crafts the Community Kitchen uh

[58:07] thing is a wonderful idea I know that

[58:10] when um back when we had our um

[58:15] affordable housing um task force that we

[58:19] were working on and uh within the

[58:22] homelessness

[58:23] subcommittee um that came up at as

[58:26] something that could be used as a

[58:29] support um for uh you know not just sort

[58:33] of recreational cooking but something

[58:36] that could be a real support for the

[58:38] community um so that's great to see as

[58:41] well as that potential partnership with

[58:44] the nii for STEM related

[58:46] activities

[58:48] um that is great and I agree with the

[58:50] vice Deputy Mayor that if you if we can

[58:53] somehow reach out on that cardiac rehab

[58:56] program that would be a wonderful

[58:58] addition because that's something I've

[58:59] heard from residents as well uh thank

[59:01] you again great report and um I really

[59:06] hope that a lot of our residents will

[59:09] take a look at it thank you thank

[59:13] you important to to convey though that

[59:17] some of the things that have been said

[59:19] are ideas they're not they're not for

[59:21] shures and certainly uh facilities um to

[59:25] to enable some ideas are not necessarily

[59:28] in the building um at this time I did

[59:31] want to um I had a couple questions but

[59:33] since the vice Deputy Mayor and

[59:35] councelor Grace both mentioned the

[59:36] Cardiac Care uh program there is um in

[59:40] the draft on page 18 there is a comment

[59:43] about the user group engagement campaign

[59:46] and it is specific to Health Care

[59:49] Providers and other thirdparty

[59:50] organizations so um you know I hope that

[59:53] you you have some success When You Reach

[59:55] Out because um care close to home is a

[59:58] very important idea and if we have a

[1:00:00] nice facility um let's let's get people

[1:00:02] in there for all kinds of different

[1:00:04] reasons I had a couple of questions

[1:00:06] though um I know that there's a a

[1:00:09] position posting right now which is one

[1:00:10] of the positions associated with um the

[1:00:14] aquatics and Wellness

[1:00:15] Center it talks about um land landbased

[1:00:19] or land programming I can't remember the

[1:00:22] exact expression are we going to think

[1:00:24] about the the community comp has as a

[1:00:26] single unit or um will there still be a

[1:00:30] distinction with the ice side and then

[1:00:33] the land side the land-based programming

[1:00:36] side and the pool is it three separate

[1:00:38] entities or will this this position

[1:00:40] that's being um recruited for right now

[1:00:43] when it talks about improving um

[1:00:45] programming will they have some

[1:00:47] engagement with improving potential um

[1:00:50] Community programming associated with

[1:00:52] the ice as

[1:00:54] well I think think the position itself

[1:00:58] will essentially fill the role that the

[1:01:01] Aquatic supervisor currently fills

[1:01:03] within so on the on the Aquatic Wet Side

[1:01:06] we have the Aquatic supervisor um and

[1:01:09] they take care of all of the programming

[1:01:11] within that space so the Dryland side

[1:01:14] the landbase side of the facility also

[1:01:17] needs um support to provide those

[1:01:20] operations I think there is opportunity

[1:01:23] um to we want to create connections

[1:01:26] within our facilities and make sure

[1:01:27] we're uh maximizing how we're using

[1:01:30] those spaces and if there's

[1:01:31] opportunities for cross programming uh

[1:01:34] for summer camps that use both the arena

[1:01:37] and the Aquatic and Wellness Center I

[1:01:39] think those are where we're really going

[1:01:40] to look to see um opportunities to um

[1:01:44] work together across our different

[1:01:45] facilities that we offer but I don't see

[1:01:48] the Aquatic and Wellness Center being

[1:01:50] exclusive and clex being exclusive they

[1:01:53] will operate in

[1:01:54] Partnership I think it will work really

[1:01:56] well to consider a cluster of activities

[1:01:59] um since you mentioned day camps or

[1:02:01] summer camps I there was a comment in

[1:02:03] there about the intention to improve

[1:02:06] enrollment or improve opportunity for 40

[1:02:08] campers um how many my understanding

[1:02:12] about our our camp program in the summer

[1:02:14] was that it was provided by an outside

[1:02:16] provider um but um how many how many

[1:02:19] kids if you add 40 to a number that

[1:02:22] exists how many children are we talking

[1:02:24] about that potentially could be involved

[1:02:25] with summer camps yeah uh so we do we

[1:02:28] have offer camp in a couple of different

[1:02:30] ways our traditional non-aquatic day

[1:02:33] camps have been offered um half day

[1:02:35] camps by a a thirdparty provider but we

[1:02:38] also provide our own direct camp

[1:02:40] programs through the Aquatic um program

[1:02:44] and this year we actually increased our

[1:02:46] camp spots by about 20 so we had about

[1:02:48] 64 campers per week in a variety of camp

[1:02:51] programs especially Camp plus two um

[1:02:54] more traditional day camps but they

[1:02:56] would go into the pool daily so it if we

[1:02:59] increase our traditional day camp by 40

[1:03:02] campers um a week we'll be at around a

[1:03:04] hundred spaces for

[1:03:06] campers that's good I have um two more

[1:03:10] um certainly I appreciate what the vice

[1:03:12] Deputy Mayor said about um not giving

[1:03:14] away too much but I I would just like to

[1:03:16] encourage as the schedule starts to to

[1:03:19] take some form um one of the challenges

[1:03:21] that I see with with ice here is there

[1:03:24] there's extremely limited times for

[1:03:26] public access to skating um I don't know

[1:03:30] exactly what's going on this year but

[1:03:31] last year there was basically one hour

[1:03:34] time in Southampton and one hour time in

[1:03:37] Port algen at the Plex that the public

[1:03:40] could get in to just go public skating

[1:03:41] so I hope that um and and they were

[1:03:44] sponsored so they weren't quote unquote

[1:03:45] free they were with paid for by a

[1:03:47] sponsor I hope that as we think about

[1:03:49] the aquatics facility that we work in um

[1:03:53] a nice number of public swim opport OPP

[1:03:55] unities um there's sponsorship

[1:03:58] opportunities there too but certainly um

[1:04:00] the more public access to the building

[1:04:03] um outside of organized membership

[1:04:06] driven um things like Minor Sports and

[1:04:09] and perhaps the breaker swim program

[1:04:11] that sort of thing or lessons I think

[1:04:12] that that would be a good good goal to

[1:04:14] work towards my other my last question

[1:04:17] is um your report is great um it

[1:04:20] includes quite a few ideas um has to

[1:04:23] follow up in terms of surveying and you

[1:04:26] know asking questions to make sure that

[1:04:28] there's satisfaction the one thing that

[1:04:30] um I don't know how you do it but the

[1:04:31] one thing that I would encourage is as

[1:04:33] you think about that it's not just about

[1:04:36] um the users of of the facility

[1:04:38] taxpayers and sogging Shores are on the

[1:04:40] hook for this facility for quite a few

[1:04:42] years via their contributions to the

[1:04:44] Legacy fund so um some sort of

[1:04:47] opportunity um along the way to assess

[1:04:50] Community satisfaction with with the

[1:04:52] build um with the results of of um the

[1:04:56] ideas that are coming out I think that

[1:04:58] that will go a long way to um encourage

[1:05:00] civic pride um because it's it's the

[1:05:03] biggest investment in Recreation stuff

[1:05:06] here ever and um taxpayers will not

[1:05:09] necessarily be participants but

[1:05:11] certainly they'll be contributing so if

[1:05:13] there's a way to kind of get at their

[1:05:15] satisfaction I think that that would be

[1:05:17] a good thing too are there any other

[1:05:19] comments by stuty

[1:05:22] mayor thank you councelor stack sorry

[1:05:24] it's okay I just had a quick question

[1:05:27] about the risk analysis so I noticed in

[1:05:30] in the report we're hinging a lot of our

[1:05:33] financial stability for the for the

[1:05:36] programming on membership then I also

[1:05:38] noted that you sort of raise low uptake

[1:05:41] on membership as a low like your level

[1:05:44] of concern is low I assume that's

[1:05:47] because you think the risk of the

[1:05:49] membership is a low membership uptake is

[1:05:52] that's correct okay and then just to

[1:05:55] kind of close that out so are we putting

[1:05:58] so we are we putting preemptive measures

[1:06:00] in place early because I know you want

[1:06:02] to start a recruitment Drive in I think

[1:06:05] August next year this year July July

[1:06:08] August will

[1:06:09] be um a membership drive for 2025 so

[1:06:12] July and August 2025 okay um I think my

[1:06:15] only comment and like I defer to you but

[1:06:18] I'm just worried about if we're saying

[1:06:20] that 70% of our revenue is coming from

[1:06:23] membership sales and that so read that

[1:06:25] to say if we don't meet our Target

[1:06:27] there's a significant like it's very

[1:06:28] consequential right if there's at least

[1:06:30] opportunity to consider whether an

[1:06:32] earlier start to that like and I know

[1:06:34] there are resourcing concerns but if

[1:06:35] it's possible to start that drive a bit

[1:06:37] earlier that would certainly give me a

[1:06:39] bit more Comfort given like I said about

[1:06:41] 70 I think 70% is hinging there um and

[1:06:45] then I just wanted to note a couple of

[1:06:46] things I found interesting um so I

[1:06:48] thought it was interesting that

[1:06:49] basically the majority of respondents

[1:06:52] want the facility open 9:00 a.m. to 10:

[1:06:55] p.m.

[1:06:56] so I I think it's about 48 to 50%

[1:06:58] between those two time those three

[1:07:00] chunks of time that you listed there um

[1:07:02] so I'm hopeful we'll be able to meet

[1:07:04] those needs because I think um I think

[1:07:06] that's pretty important I know the gym I

[1:07:08] go to is busy all the time so I'd expect

[1:07:10] it would be similar there and then I

[1:07:12] just had a very um silly question that I

[1:07:15] couldn't I don't know if I was reading

[1:07:16] too late last night what does dry land

[1:07:19] activities mean so I will take the

[1:07:22] recreation hat basically Dryland is

[1:07:25] landbased or programs that happen

[1:07:27] outside of the pool so anything not in

[1:07:29] the

[1:07:32] pool stuty mayor M yeah thank you Deputy

[1:07:35] Mayor and two two two final comments and

[1:07:38] questions one might be for the director

[1:07:40] of community services and it's to do

[1:07:42] with the potential for relocating of the

[1:07:44] Hall of Fame and um bill streer was uh

[1:07:48] here in this Council well I think in the

[1:07:50] other building year year or so ago

[1:07:52] longer and talked about he'd be willing

[1:07:54] to sit with Rotary Club and other

[1:07:56] organizations to to revamp take another

[1:07:59] look at the hall of fame and there

[1:08:01] there's probably going to be lots of

[1:08:02] wall space there at the at the new

[1:08:04] aquatic Wellness Center so any progress

[1:08:07] being made on

[1:08:12] that uh thank you for the question and

[1:08:14] through you um Vice or Deputy Mayor um

[1:08:18] we do have that uh Council will see that

[1:08:20] presented through the business plan as a

[1:08:22] future highlight that's coming up off

[1:08:25] the top of my head right now I can't

[1:08:26] remember if it's 25 or 26 uh that we're

[1:08:29] going to look at uh the Hall of Fame

[1:08:31] perfect thanks for that and uh um one of

[1:08:34] the nice things I think with any

[1:08:37] facility particularly a brand new

[1:08:38] facility like this I was in one on the

[1:08:40] weekend down in uh um down Fergus area

[1:08:43] Mount Forest actually and a nice sitting

[1:08:45] area for people sit down and congregate

[1:08:48] meat have a coffee muffin canteen was

[1:08:50] open and uh I see with the Aquatic

[1:08:53] Wellness Center there's no provision for

[1:08:55] a can

[1:08:56] but they're they're you're talking about

[1:08:58] perhaps the the Plex whoever operates

[1:09:00] the Plex canteen um you know it could

[1:09:03] spill over into into service in the pool

[1:09:05] as well can you can you shed a little

[1:09:07] more light on that why we decide not to

[1:09:10] do a a canteen at the wellness center I

[1:09:14] think in recognizing that the existing

[1:09:17] canteen is located in the Plex and it is

[1:09:19] connected to the Aquatic and Wellness

[1:09:21] Center through that Corridor link um so

[1:09:24] there were there's already a service um

[1:09:26] available to be provided there I think

[1:09:29] there's an opportunity to look at the

[1:09:30] agreement that we have in that space and

[1:09:32] maybe reimagine what it looks like in

[1:09:35] order to uh provide some additional

[1:09:37] Services there are sitting areas uh

[1:09:39] within the design as well so there's a a

[1:09:42] really nice sitting area outside of the

[1:09:44] um Auditorium space just outside of the

[1:09:47] glass where Community can gather and

[1:09:48] then on the second level as well there's

[1:09:50] going to be some seating areas that's

[1:09:52] great it's good to see the break out

[1:09:54] seting areas like that and so there are

[1:09:56] will or are will be active discussions

[1:09:59] around offering canteen services with

[1:10:01] the current operator of the canteen to

[1:10:04] expand that service and include the pool

[1:10:07] so there there will be some discussions

[1:10:09] we will yeah we will take a look at the

[1:10:10] agreement and when it expires and how

[1:10:12] that could that how it could

[1:10:17] work councelor halin thank you Deputy

[1:10:20] Mayor and through you uh just coming

[1:10:23] back to your comments about ice time and

[1:10:27] you know if we're looking at the Aquatic

[1:10:28] and Wellness Center and the ice Al

[1:10:30] together and everything like that um if

[1:10:32] there were more opportunities for public

[1:10:34] skating I know it is very competitive to

[1:10:37] get a sponsorship for public skating I

[1:10:40] mean people businesses are tripping over

[1:10:43] themselves and snabb this up so I think

[1:10:46] that there's more businesses and more

[1:10:48] individuals out there that would sponsor

[1:10:51] more free skating and free swimming as

[1:10:53] well and that's something we could look

[1:10:55] at expanding that with your new Aquatic

[1:10:56] and wellness thank you

[1:11:00] thanks and we appreciate that you

[1:11:03] councelor help and sponsor skating at

[1:11:05] times too are there any other comments

[1:11:08] um I'm sure that uh the manager would

[1:11:10] welcome um any any feedback that that

[1:11:13] could come in uh prior to us receiving

[1:11:15] another report the recommendation before

[1:11:17] us right now is that Council receive the

[1:11:19] draft Aquatic and Wellness Center

[1:11:21] operations and management plan report

[1:11:23] for information all those in

[1:11:27] favor thank

[1:11:29] you our next uh agenda item is relating

[1:11:34] to um the introduction to proposed

[1:11:37] levels of service for asset management

[1:11:39] and I will ask the asset management

[1:11:42] supervisor Jessica Rogers to come up to

[1:11:45] the mic and she's going to introduce the

[1:11:47] consultant thank you

[1:11:51] Jessica uh thank you and through you

[1:11:53] deputy mayor as outlined in our 2024

[1:11:57] business plan the town is in the

[1:11:58] beginning phases of a project to once

[1:12:01] again update our amp to meet the 2025

[1:12:04] requirements under the o

[1:12:24] 588-1714 public policy advice in the

[1:12:26] areas of Municipal Finance development

[1:12:29] planning demographic and economic

[1:12:31] forecasting and real estate valuations

[1:12:34] hemon's Municipal practice is extensive

[1:12:36] and is anchored by professionals who

[1:12:39] have considerable experience in both the

[1:12:41] municipal environment and private sector

[1:12:44] the staff includes um Finance

[1:12:46] professionals planners demographers real

[1:12:48] estate Specialists and

[1:12:50] economics the objectives of this project

[1:12:52] include identifying measurable levels of

[1:12:54] service developing ing tools for

[1:12:56] tracking these measures receiving

[1:12:58] resident input through both an online

[1:13:00] survey and a pic and crafting both asset

[1:13:03] management and financial strategies I

[1:13:06] will now hand it over to Christopher

[1:13:07] belet and Andrew Marabella from hson

[1:13:10] Consulting to provide more information

[1:13:12] with regards to the proposed levels of

[1:13:14] service as part of our long-term

[1:13:16] business planning and how it relates to

[1:13:18] the regulation

[1:13:26] thank you uh members of council um just

[1:13:28] to kind of start things off on some of

[1:13:30] the topics for discussion uh we want to

[1:13:32] go through and kind of Define asset

[1:13:34] management and a quick overview uh for

[1:13:36] municipalities um we want a a kind of

[1:13:39] overview of the regulatory requirements

[1:13:41] particularly or

[1:13:43] 58817 we're going to look at the town's

[1:13:45] 2024 Asset Management plan and the work

[1:13:47] the Town has done already um in terms of

[1:13:49] that level of service work as well as

[1:13:51] the approach to the development of those

[1:13:53] proposed levels of service some of those

[1:13:55] next

[1:13:57] steps so to kind of Define um asset

[1:14:00] management for municipalities and and

[1:14:03] sort of a simple perspective um asset

[1:14:05] management is the process of maintaining

[1:14:07] Assets in the most cost-effective way um

[1:14:09] we want to make sure that we're

[1:14:11] maximizing benefits to Residents uh

[1:14:13] through the use of those assets we will

[1:14:15] make make sure that we're managing risks

[1:14:17] over the long term and as well ensuring

[1:14:19] that the services are sustainable um and

[1:14:22] affordable as well ensuring that through

[1:14:24] uh through this uh sort of plan and as

[1:14:26] well through through a longer term

[1:14:28] planning

[1:14:30] period um an overview uh municipalities

[1:14:33] are responsible for ensuring

[1:14:34] infrastructures planned built and

[1:14:36] maintained in a sustainable way that

[1:14:38] said the town has applied sound asset

[1:14:41] management principles and processes to

[1:14:43] date uh from hemon's opinion the town is

[1:14:45] well ahead of many other municipalities

[1:14:48] of similar size uh you've developed a

[1:14:50] tenure Capital plan you have an

[1:14:52] infrastructure Levy that you've

[1:14:53] implemented so with that said you know

[1:14:55] the asset management plan becomes a

[1:14:57] useful tool for identifying um those

[1:15:00] long-term infrastructure requirements

[1:15:03] and planning how to manage those uh

[1:15:05] requirements uh today or starting

[1:15:08] today some objectives um the plan uh we

[1:15:11] want to provide staff and Council

[1:15:13] information to guide sustainable

[1:15:15] infrastructure investment decisions so

[1:15:16] we are building upon um the the uh the

[1:15:19] work from 2024 plan uh moving forward we

[1:15:23] want to make sure we're meeting those

[1:15:24] requirements of Ontario regulation 58817

[1:15:27] on the proposed level of service one

[1:15:29] other important component here um is

[1:15:32] having a readily available document to

[1:15:34] support those um uh future Federal grant

[1:15:36] applications and ccbf funding agreements

[1:15:39] um as well that ask for that plan to be

[1:15:41] submitted as part of those applications

[1:15:43] and the amp has to consider all assets

[1:15:45] owned by the town as well uh making sure

[1:15:47] that we've included the core and noncore

[1:15:49] assets and building upon that exercise

[1:15:51] which the town has already done through

[1:15:52] that 24 plan

[1:15:56] um the line of side of asset management

[1:15:57] planning is sort of the framework the

[1:15:59] town um is utilizing in order to develop

[1:16:02] uh the proposed level of service and as

[1:16:03] well the the existing uh sort of asset

[1:16:06] management plan it begins with uh the

[1:16:08] vision of council and as well as Council

[1:16:10] priorities those visions and those

[1:16:13] priorities help inform the policy the

[1:16:15] asset management policy that was

[1:16:17] developed a few years back and as well

[1:16:19] as the asset management plan itself and

[1:16:21] ultimately that plan the intention is

[1:16:23] that it helps and form those Capital

[1:16:26] programs the operations and maintenance

[1:16:28] budget and as well as any business plans

[1:16:29] going forward and by no means is the

[1:16:31] asset management plan intended to

[1:16:33] replace those processes but it's it's

[1:16:35] another tool in sort of the town's

[1:16:36] Arsenal to help plan for those long-term

[1:16:39] um asset obligations those last few

[1:16:42] pieces on those on those budget pieces

[1:16:44] will help inform the targets and the

[1:16:46] level of service that's being uh

[1:16:48] proposed as part of the exercise and as

[1:16:51] well as in that reporting uh help in

[1:16:53] that reporting of the levels of service

[1:16:56] going

[1:16:57] forward the timeline of the regulation

[1:17:01] uh important to mention here that the

[1:17:02] town is up to dat um in terms of Meeting

[1:17:06] those regulatory requirements of the

[1:17:08] asset management plan back in 19 was a

[1:17:10] develop of the Strategic Asset

[1:17:11] Management policy which the town has in

[1:17:13] place and then in July 20 July 1st of 22

[1:17:17] and then again in 24 was developing

[1:17:19] those current levels of service for the

[1:17:21] core assets and the non-core assets and

[1:17:23] the core assets like I mentioned kind of

[1:17:25] covering the roads water Wastewater

[1:17:27] storm water Bridges and culs and so on

[1:17:29] and those non-core assets being your

[1:17:30] other asset categories uh things like

[1:17:32] Vehicles equipment uh facilities and so

[1:17:35] on so a good basis uh that the town has

[1:17:38] uh from Meeting those requirements going

[1:17:40] forward we want to meet the July 1st

[1:17:42] 2025 requirements that'll be the uh

[1:17:45] development of the proposed levels of

[1:17:47] service that that we are talking about

[1:17:49] today and that'll be for July 1st 2025

[1:17:52] and that process has already begun and

[1:17:54] is isn't sort of moving forward um um

[1:17:57] right

[1:17:58] now some of the required elements of the

[1:18:01] plan uh one important uh kind of

[1:18:03] starting point is the state of local

[1:18:05] infrastructure uh this this really

[1:18:07] describes the the uh asset portfolio of

[1:18:10] the town where are the assets what are

[1:18:12] they worth what condition are they in um

[1:18:15] what is the remaining service life and

[1:18:17] so on and these are important inputs to

[1:18:19] developing that level of service um the

[1:18:22] any discussions on risks Associated to

[1:18:24] the plan as well as determining the life

[1:18:26] cycle activities and costs of

[1:18:28] undertaking um all you know the work

[1:18:30] that's proposed uh you know sort of

[1:18:32] through the plan over the long term um

[1:18:34] so you know that like I mentioned the

[1:18:35] town has already developed that through

[1:18:37] the 2024 Asset Management plan and those

[1:18:39] will will be that will be the framework

[1:18:42] and the starting point to help inform

[1:18:44] the exercise on the proposed level of

[1:18:47] service um municipalities are required

[1:18:49] to report on those levels of service for

[1:18:51] all those assets um you know like I

[1:18:53] mentioned the town has already undergone

[1:18:55] and undertaken that first uh sort of

[1:18:57] Step of reporting on those current

[1:18:59] levels of service and what that means is

[1:19:02] um you know there is quite a bit of

[1:19:03] information in the existing plan that we

[1:19:05] can draw upon this represents this table

[1:19:08] represents a snapshot of the current

[1:19:10] level of service that the town already

[1:19:12] put together uh these are not all the

[1:19:14] levels of service this is just a

[1:19:15] snapshot for illustration purposes but

[1:19:17] what we wanted to point out is that the

[1:19:19] basis for the levels of service will be

[1:19:21] based on this uh you know the proposed

[1:19:23] level of service will look to set

[1:19:25] targets over the next 10e period or a

[1:19:27] minimum 10year period for these types of

[1:19:30] measures and these measures are going to

[1:19:31] be informed over the next uh few months

[1:19:35] uh through a variety or or different uh

[1:19:37] sort of uh uh sets of part of the

[1:19:40] process particularly in the consultation

[1:19:42] and as well as analysis of the

[1:19:45] budget this slide represents sort of

[1:19:47] that process um we start off with a

[1:19:49] review of the current level of service

[1:19:51] um that's uh happening uh in the next

[1:19:53] few days where sitting down with staff

[1:19:55] in order to undertake uh some formal

[1:19:57] workshops with staff to understand the

[1:19:59] current level of service understanding

[1:20:01] the data understanding the feasibility

[1:20:03] of tracking those levels of service

[1:20:05] along with them we'll look to develop

[1:20:07] those proposed level of service targets

[1:20:09] uh using uh sort of Staff knowledge the

[1:20:12] existing documentation the asset

[1:20:14] management plan the exit the the capital

[1:20:16] budget the operating budgets and so on

[1:20:18] but that'll lead into consultation with

[1:20:21] uh or continued consultation with the

[1:20:23] public and Council uh there there is a

[1:20:25] consultation uh happening uh in the next

[1:20:28] uh couple weeks with the public and

[1:20:29] trying to gauge some of the sense uh

[1:20:32] from the public on the level of service

[1:20:34] provided uh of those assets and as well

[1:20:36] as uh the process uh giving enough time

[1:20:39] to provide Council uh the information

[1:20:42] that needed in order to sort of be

[1:20:44] informed on what those levels of service

[1:20:45] are and getting the the feedback from

[1:20:47] Council in order to move forward uh with

[1:20:50] the plan and finally we want to make

[1:20:51] sure we identify the cost to meet those

[1:20:53] proposed levels of service and if there

[1:20:55] are any risks Associated um to uh to the

[1:20:58] plan and those costs will be largely

[1:21:00] informed through the good work that the

[1:21:02] town is already done including the

[1:21:03] 10year capital plan as a as a basis in

[1:21:06] order to understand what those targets

[1:21:07] could be based on that

[1:21:10] plan um last sort of a few ideas here um

[1:21:14] in understanding the uh life cycle

[1:21:16] activities that support the level of

[1:21:18] service so these are the activities that

[1:21:20] we do on our assets or or as part of the

[1:21:22] asset management best practices and in

[1:21:24] order to maintain um the levels of

[1:21:26] service the first one if you he being

[1:21:28] non-infrastructure Solutions really

[1:21:30] related to actions that the town may

[1:21:32] take not necessarily not necessarily

[1:21:34] related to direct work on assets but it

[1:21:36] might be related to management of the

[1:21:38] assets things like development of an

[1:21:40] asset management plan or acquiring a new

[1:21:42] piece of software to manage the

[1:21:43] inventory the expansion activities more

[1:21:46] traditionally related for municipalities

[1:21:48] on the growth related infrastructure so

[1:21:51] kind of those first round costs um of

[1:21:53] growth related infr structure would

[1:21:55] would be what we would call in the asset

[1:21:56] management world is expansion activities

[1:21:59] the maintenance activities more so

[1:22:01] related to works on an ongoing basis to

[1:22:04] maintain those assets typically captured

[1:22:06] or mostly captured in the town's

[1:22:08] operating budget and that includes

[1:22:10] things like reactive maintenance you

[1:22:12] know as an asset uh either breaks down

[1:22:14] or requires immediate repair that's

[1:22:16] addressed through the operating

[1:22:19] budget on the uh uh sort of the last

[1:22:22] three categories here we have renewal

[1:22:24] Rehabilitation and replacement more so

[1:22:27] related uh to the capital budget those

[1:22:29] are your traditional type capital

[1:22:30] projects renewal Rehabilitation more so

[1:22:33] repair type uh um uh work things like

[1:22:36] Road repavement or perhaps repairing

[1:22:38] components um of a facility and the town

[1:22:41] undertakes preventative maintenance

[1:22:43] through the capital budget uh which

[1:22:45] would include a combination of you know

[1:22:46] renewal Rehabilitation or replacement as

[1:22:49] determined as as sort of needed those

[1:22:51] replacement activities are more so um uh

[1:22:54] related to those likeforlike uh type

[1:22:56] Replacements replacing your vehicles for

[1:22:59] example or replacing a piece of

[1:23:00] equipment and finally the disposal

[1:23:02] activities any activity related uh to

[1:23:05] disposing of an asset that may

[1:23:07] necessarily have a cost and you know one

[1:23:09] one important component here is that the

[1:23:11] town is already aiming to move to a

[1:23:13] larger share of preventative work um

[1:23:15] over the next few years um in in in sort

[1:23:18] of in a way in order to make sure that

[1:23:21] uh that assets are continued to be

[1:23:22] maintained sustainably and by no means

[1:23:25] is um the the actions that are

[1:23:27] represented here um represent actions

[1:23:29] that the town already takes as part of

[1:23:30] the capital budget these are just

[1:23:32] categories that facilitate um the

[1:23:35] exercise and developing that proposed

[1:23:36] level of service and by no means is this

[1:23:39] uh intended to rep replace the budget

[1:23:41] process but it's a tool to help inform

[1:23:43] that process um in the future as

[1:23:46] well so in terms of next steps uh hamson

[1:23:49] and stown staff have already initiated

[1:23:51] the background work needed to develop

[1:23:52] the proposed level of service so like I

[1:23:54] mentioned in the next couple of weeks uh

[1:23:56] there are workshops with staff in order

[1:23:57] to be able to get more so the technical

[1:24:00] information in order uh to develop those

[1:24:02] measures uh there is a consultation

[1:24:04] session with the public scheduled for

[1:24:06] November 20th so that's uh sort of

[1:24:08] coming up but with another session in

[1:24:10] early 2025 to sort of gauge um The

[1:24:13] public's uh opinion on some of those uh

[1:24:15] sort of levels of service for some of

[1:24:17] those assets a final report is expected

[1:24:19] uh to cancel by the end of q1 2025 uh

[1:24:23] and that is at the same time well in

[1:24:24] advance of that regulatory requirement

[1:24:27] of July 1st 2025 but at the same time

[1:24:30] giving Council enough time and us coming

[1:24:32] back to Council in order to present that

[1:24:34] information and providing um enough time

[1:24:36] for Council to have um a comment and

[1:24:39] opinion on that for us to reflect in the

[1:24:41] in the overall uh sort of

[1:24:44] product uh with that said uh that

[1:24:46] concludes uh the formal presentation and

[1:24:48] I'd be happy to answer any questions you

[1:24:49] may

[1:24:51] have thank you for that the the public

[1:24:55] um consultation process that you

[1:24:57] mentioned on November the 20th that's

[1:24:59] Wednesday November the 20th it's at 5:00

[1:25:01] pm at the Bruce County Museum is that

[1:25:03] correct that is correct thank you um we

[1:25:05] have a recommendation um before us that

[1:25:08] Council receive the introduction to

[1:25:10] propose levels of service for Asset

[1:25:12] Management um just to receive it for

[1:25:14] information I'll open the floor for

[1:25:16] questions or comments

[1:25:22] now I have a couple

[1:25:27] I wanted to ask um there was a a comment

[1:25:30] on one of the slides and it's probably a

[1:25:32] question for uh um perhaps the U manager

[1:25:36] of engineering or or the um director of

[1:25:39] development um there's a comment in

[1:25:41] there that the bridge average condition

[1:25:44] had an index number of 57 out of a 100

[1:25:48] um that seems that it's just above

[1:25:51] halfway um it was the one that kind of

[1:25:54] was the most dramatic so I just would

[1:25:56] appreciate a comment as to what that

[1:25:58] means and and what it it uh represents

[1:26:01] in terms of the future planning in in

[1:26:03] terms of taking care of B

[1:26:05] Bridges um through you Deputy Mayor and

[1:26:07] I can answer a bit and provide other

[1:26:11] answers if Rahul wants to step in as

[1:26:13] well so um that number came from our

[1:26:16] 2022 Asset Management plan so it was

[1:26:19] based on the um Bridge condition um

[1:26:22] study that was done in that year um and

[1:26:25] at that time we did have a couple

[1:26:27] bridges that were closed so you have to

[1:26:29] understand that those closed bridges

[1:26:30] would have a condition index of zero

[1:26:32] which would bring down our overall

[1:26:34] average um we completed a Bridge

[1:26:38] condition assessment um this year we

[1:26:41] actually just received the report um so

[1:26:43] in our next iteration of the asset

[1:26:45] management plan we will be updating

[1:26:47] these numbers and is likely we'll see an

[1:26:50] improvement thank you the other one that

[1:26:52] caught my eye was that um the unpaved

[1:26:55] roads in our community were noted as

[1:26:57] poor um same situation you've done

[1:27:01] another um condition report and we can

[1:27:04] expect to hear more yes um and through

[1:27:06] you Deputy Mayor we completed a um

[1:27:09] pavement condition Index this year as

[1:27:11] well which will give us a better um

[1:27:13] understanding of our pave roads um with

[1:27:16] unpaved roads because they are gravel it

[1:27:18] is relatively hard to actually come up

[1:27:21] with a decent um condition reporting

[1:27:23] system for those but I would expect that

[1:27:26] we would see an improvement based on our

[1:27:27] maintenance

[1:27:29] strategies thank you and my apolog my

[1:27:32] apology for suggesting that someone else

[1:27:34] needed to answer questions you're you're

[1:27:36] always very good yeah any anything else

[1:27:39] councelor

[1:27:40] mayette thank you

[1:27:42] Madame

[1:27:44] chair we still have a couple bridges

[1:27:46] that are closed and so uh I know we've

[1:27:48] done some work on concession six bridge

[1:27:51] and we've done some work on the county

[1:27:53] road 17 Bridge

[1:27:55] um but when we have those bridges closed

[1:27:58] I'm hoping they stay in the plan for

[1:28:00] future Rehabilitation so I don't really

[1:28:03] see that number coming up with regards

[1:28:04] to the uh gravel roads um we we did do a

[1:28:10] uh a trial run I believe it was three

[1:28:12] years ago on on Side Road uh 1819 where

[1:28:16] it goes from the Town Line to one of our

[1:28:19] new Bridges the newest bridge in SOI

[1:28:21] Shores which is

[1:28:22] the the name of it eludes me right at

[1:28:25] the moment

[1:28:26] um but we we uh we did a tar and chip

[1:28:30] for half of the concession and left

[1:28:32] gravel on the other half and I would

[1:28:34] encourage all counselors if you're ever

[1:28:36] taking a drive down to Paisley and Point

[1:28:39] South to come around uh 1819 and drive

[1:28:43] it right down to Across the new bridge

[1:28:45] or to the Town Line and see the

[1:28:46] difference between what three years of

[1:28:49] tan chip compared to three years of

[1:28:52] gravel looks like and it's remarkable

[1:28:54] how well it stood up now that is a non

[1:28:58] maintained Road in the wintertime so it

[1:29:00] doesn't see snowplow use but I would say

[1:29:03] that the condition of half of that road

[1:29:05] is is very good and uh the other half

[1:29:09] not so

[1:29:11] good the CEO wants to comment yeah

[1:29:14] through you madam chair I just would um

[1:29:17] because we have a new director of

[1:29:18] operations I'm just going to call his

[1:29:20] attention to that piece that was part of

[1:29:22] our business plan from two or three

[1:29:23] years years ago that we probably do owe

[1:29:25] a report back to counsil on the status

[1:29:28] of that uh trial that we did on that

[1:29:30] road so thank you for the

[1:29:33] reminder any other comments councelor

[1:29:39] divinsky thank you acting mayor uh we

[1:29:42] hear in this report which is an

[1:29:45] excellent report by the way and all my

[1:29:47] questions have pretty well been answered

[1:29:51] um we hear how well we're doing because

[1:29:55] we're ahead of the game and of course

[1:29:58] that reflects on the staff and I would

[1:30:00] like to think to a certain extent on

[1:30:02] Council as well but primarily on

[1:30:06] staff um but they still say there's

[1:30:11] hempson says there's still lots to do

[1:30:14] and we have to we should get it done by

[1:30:16] a certain date because the province says

[1:30:19] we

[1:30:20] should so my question is simple yes

[1:30:25] no we aren't going to hear that we have

[1:30:27] to add another staff member because of

[1:30:30] this are

[1:30:32] we uh through you Deputy Mayor no I I

[1:30:36] don't think we're going to see um the

[1:30:38] recommendation of adding staff to the

[1:30:40] asset management GIS team um I think

[1:30:43] what we're going to hear is um whether

[1:30:46] or not we're on track to continue to

[1:30:49] meet the goals that we as a town have in

[1:30:52] terms of our assets

[1:30:55] okay you said I don't think so you've

[1:30:57] left it I mean I would love another

[1:31:00] staff

[1:31:01] member we'll get an additional comment

[1:31:03] from the ceao yeah thank you through you

[1:31:05] madam chair what you have in front of

[1:31:08] you tonight is to look at what kind of

[1:31:10] service levels we want to set as a

[1:31:12] council for our assets it really doesn't

[1:31:14] have to do with the Staffing that's

[1:31:16] managing um that process and that

[1:31:19] reporting to the province of Ontario um

[1:31:22] so I I would offer that the two are a

[1:31:23] bit dis connected uh counselor but we're

[1:31:26] really looking at what service level you

[1:31:27] want to set related to the assets that

[1:31:29] you have in front of you the table that

[1:31:32] was on the screen before I understand

[1:31:34] that CAO but you see a report like this

[1:31:37] and in your expertise and anybody else's

[1:31:40] you can say oh we're going to need help

[1:31:42] with this and I'm all I'm asking is has

[1:31:46] that been thought of another staff

[1:31:49] member to help with this I don't think

[1:31:52] we need it but

[1:31:54] through you madam chair I I'm guess I'm

[1:31:57] trying to air quote around the this in

[1:31:59] that statement counselor and the this is

[1:32:01] really our assets so we had a a list up

[1:32:04] on the screen there maybe it can be put

[1:32:06] up there again but the variety of assets

[1:32:09] that you see in front of you are managed

[1:32:11] by multiple divisions within our

[1:32:13] organization so throughout operations

[1:32:15] engineering those various groups provide

[1:32:18] the level of Maintenance that we want to

[1:32:20] see on those assets so it really it's

[1:32:23] hard to draw a direct line between

[1:32:25] Staffing and the asset but we run um

[1:32:28] Asset Management asset maintenance

[1:32:30] across all of our divisions whether or

[1:32:32] not that be a facility like the pool or

[1:32:34] a road or a bridge so um this the

[1:32:38] question directly to the asset

[1:32:39] management team it is a group made up of

[1:32:42] three members um that provide not only

[1:32:46] asset management but GIS and again we

[1:32:48] can see how far they are ahead in the

[1:32:50] province of Ontario with the work

[1:32:52] they're doing so there's no intent to

[1:32:53] ask for additional staff but again I'm

[1:32:55] just trying to put my finger quotes

[1:32:57] around what you mean by this and again

[1:32:59] we're talking about the level of service

[1:33:01] related to the assets themselves and you

[1:33:04] said what I wanted to

[1:33:06] hear thank you and I didn't mean to put

[1:33:08] you on the SP counc helping thank you

[1:33:11] Deputy Mayor and through you uh how much

[1:33:13] was this consultation fee for this

[1:33:16] report that's in front of

[1:33:20] us it it was a 20

[1:33:24] one was

[1:33:25] $20,000 yeah and it was part of the

[1:33:27] business plan last year thank you well

[1:33:31] the followup so how much will the whole

[1:33:34] consultation end up costing 35,000 thank

[1:33:41] you seeing no other comments the

[1:33:43] recommendation is that Council receive

[1:33:45] the introduction to proposed levels of

[1:33:47] service for Asset Management report for

[1:33:49] information all in

[1:33:50] favor that's carried thank you very much

[1:33:54] Jessica our next um item staff report is

[1:33:58] about the Ontario community information

[1:34:01] or sorry Ontario community

[1:34:03] infrastructure fund oif update and we

[1:34:07] will look to Daniel weter the Chief

[1:34:09] Financial Officer treasurer for that

[1:34:11] report I think Daniel's um on Zoom go

[1:34:14] ahead Daniel yes I am thank you uh

[1:34:16] acting mayor Huber uh this report

[1:34:19] follows up on a July 2024 report upd and

[1:34:22] Council on changes to the Ontario

[1:34:24] community infrastructure fund

[1:34:26] allocations for the town of sing Shores

[1:34:29] at the time Council were informed of

[1:34:31] changes to the methodology that resulted

[1:34:33] in a maximum 15% decrease to the town's

[1:34:36] 2024 allocation the town has now

[1:34:40] received its 2025 allocation which again

[1:34:43] shows a maximum 15% decrease from last

[1:34:46] year's the town has been working to

[1:34:48] understand these changes throughout the

[1:34:50] year and recently engaged Wellington

[1:34:52] Dupont to assess assisting communication

[1:34:55] with the ministry with Ministry of

[1:34:57] infrastructure staff after extensive

[1:34:59] efforts uh some responses have been

[1:35:02] received from Ministry staff but there

[1:35:03] is still uh Missing detail that would

[1:35:06] help further explain causes of the

[1:35:08] decrease uh separately uh Town staff

[1:35:11] have

[1:35:12] completed uh an analysis of the publicly

[1:35:15] listed oif allocations amongst all

[1:35:18] municipalities and this data has been

[1:35:21] crucial in identifying that the impact

[1:35:22] of the methodology

[1:35:24] methodology change has not been limited

[1:35:26] to this to the town of saging Shores uh

[1:35:30] 138 out of

[1:35:32] 426 re recipients uh saw a maximum 15%

[1:35:37] decrease from their 2023 to their 2024

[1:35:41] allocation and 89 recipients have also

[1:35:44] seen a maximum 15% decrease from their

[1:35:48] 2024 to their

[1:35:51] 2025 allocation or sorry seen seeing a

[1:35:54] maximum decrease in both of those

[1:35:56] years uh so although exact reasons for

[1:36:00] all of the exact reasons for the

[1:36:02] decrease in the town's allocation are

[1:36:04] not yet fully identified the previous

[1:36:07] allocation methodology involved uh very

[1:36:10] intricate calculations that were based

[1:36:13] on financial information returns of

[1:36:16] municipalities the estimates from that

[1:36:18] data uh can vary significantly depending

[1:36:21] on each mun municip Al's quality of data

[1:36:25] their depreciation methods their

[1:36:28] tangible Capital asset asset policies

[1:36:31] and it's possible that previous

[1:36:32] calculations for the town's

[1:36:34] infrastructure may have been relatively

[1:36:37] higher than the true infrastructure

[1:36:39] values when compared to the change that

[1:36:43] other municipalities saw in that

[1:36:45] methodology change uh So based on the

[1:36:48] most recent notice from The Province the

[1:36:50] current projection for future o payments

[1:36:54] uh is

[1:36:56] 74,000 that that's the end point that we

[1:36:59] would reach in

[1:37:02] 20207 uh and that is approximately $1

[1:37:04] million per year over the long term

[1:37:07] lower than what was included in the 2024

[1:37:10] business plan options to deal with this

[1:37:13] funding issue will be included in the

[1:37:15] 2025 business plan for council's

[1:37:22] consideration thank you very much much

[1:37:23] Daniel um do we have any Vice Deputy

[1:37:27] Mayor y thank you Deputy Mayor and just

[1:37:29] so I'm clear Daniel um so when we when

[1:37:33] we last heard the report I thought there

[1:37:35] was going to be a a decrease of of one

[1:37:39] one let me think here now it would have

[1:37:41] been

[1:37:42] 74,000 um right now it's you're looking

[1:37:46] at a decrease of 223,000 if if I got

[1:37:49] that right that it's actually $500,000

[1:37:52] lower than what what was anticipated is

[1:37:56] that do I have that

[1:37:58] right

[1:37:59] the the original so our

[1:38:03] 2023 uh projection was a was

[1:38:06] approximately 1.7 million or sorry our

[1:38:09] original 2024 projection was about 1.7

[1:38:12] million and that was based on our

[1:38:15] historical uh our actual allocation in

[1:38:19] 2024 was just over 1.4 million and our

[1:38:24] 2025 allocation is just over 1.2 million

[1:38:28] so yeah like to date we're down about

[1:38:31] 500,000 um but future years it's

[1:38:35] anticipated that

[1:38:37] uh that's that's good so I did

[1:38:39] understand it correctly based from the

[1:38:42] report in August this is $500,000 better

[1:38:45] than what we anticipated

[1:38:48] and no I'm got that right that's what I

[1:38:51] meant down that's what I meant low did I

[1:38:53] better I meant lower but in a better in

[1:38:56] a better position than what was

[1:38:58] anticipated in August

[1:39:00] correct no it's uh it's no it's a it's a

[1:39:05] decrease even from from July's report um

[1:39:09] our allocation is show the 2025 notice

[1:39:13] from The Province showed an even lower

[1:39:15] amount than uh what we understood in

[1:39:18] July okay the number we just looked

[1:39:21] looked about 5 $500,000 different

[1:39:25] different than what what we were told

[1:39:27] back a few months ago that's what I

[1:39:30] that's how I understood

[1:39:31] it um but anyways um do this is this

[1:39:35] number a new number reflected in the

[1:39:37] 2025 operating

[1:39:39] budget it is reflected in the 2025

[1:39:43] business plan uh and as stated in the

[1:39:47] report there'll be options for Council

[1:39:49] to consider um so it's included in the

[1:39:53] in the business plan um but with

[1:39:57] different ways of of

[1:39:59] achieving um that funding

[1:40:03] Gap councilor

[1:40:07] Grace thank you Madame Deputy Mayor um

[1:40:11] thank you Daniel for the report um

[1:40:14] obviously this is disappointing and uh I

[1:40:18] know we've been trying to get some

[1:40:21] specific reasons about why this

[1:40:24] is um

[1:40:26] happening um is there anything we can do

[1:40:30] to keep this from happening or are we

[1:40:34] just destined uh is this a combination

[1:40:38] of

[1:40:39] our um perhaps a factor of our median

[1:40:43] median household income

[1:40:46] and um our existing infrastructure the

[1:40:50] value of our existing infrastructure is

[1:40:53] is there any any anything we can be

[1:40:55] doing uh to keep this from

[1:41:00] happening so I don't know if I can speak

[1:41:03] to the full answer there in terms of

[1:41:06] what can be done in terms of

[1:41:07] communications with other levels of

[1:41:09] government um in terms of the I want to

[1:41:12] emphasize it is a Formula driven change

[1:41:16] it is not a decision of the province or

[1:41:18] a decision it is a Formula driven change

[1:41:22] where there using they previously were

[1:41:26] using assumptions based on historical

[1:41:29] data and now they have uh moved to a

[1:41:33] methodology that the attempt is to use

[1:41:37] current self-reported data from

[1:41:40] municipalities on how much

[1:41:41] infrastructure that they have uh through

[1:41:44] their Asset Management

[1:41:46] plans um one of the important things to

[1:41:49] note that that I've come across in this

[1:41:51] is the the formula it's self attempts to

[1:41:55] adjust for the infrastructure needs of

[1:41:57] the

[1:41:57] communities uh so rural communities that

[1:42:02] have a lot of bridges and have a long a

[1:42:05] lot of paved roads a lot of water sewer

[1:42:07] infrastructure over long stretches um

[1:42:10] are going to see relatively higher per

[1:42:13] capita payments than urban areas uh and

[1:42:19] that's not necessarily A change but as

[1:42:20] they change the methodology

[1:42:23] um the intent is that it's a truer

[1:42:26] reflection of the infrastructure needs

[1:42:28] of the community um so to answer your

[1:42:31] question it it is a Formula driven thing

[1:42:33] in terms of Engagement with other um

[1:42:37] levels of of government um perhaps um

[1:42:41] someone else may want to to comment on

[1:42:46] that I don't see anybody else stepping

[1:42:49] up to the plate but are the other

[1:42:53] members of

[1:42:55] council councelor

[1:42:57] hin I'm not interested in answering that

[1:43:00] question I have a different question

[1:43:01] just to be

[1:43:02] clear I I had a constituent ask me this

[1:43:06] and I know I've asked this before why

[1:43:08] are we using Wellington Dupont to talk

[1:43:11] to the government like you know we're

[1:43:14] they're their tier there's the

[1:43:16] government you know we're a tier of

[1:43:19] government why do we have to go through

[1:43:21] a consultant to talk talk to the

[1:43:24] government why are we doing that thank

[1:43:27] you through you madam chair Wellington

[1:43:30] Dupont was hired in order to help us

[1:43:32] with Grant applications for various

[1:43:35] infrastructure projects including the

[1:43:36] Aquatic and Wellness Center as part of

[1:43:38] that contract they've offered to elevate

[1:43:42] um certain issues that we bring to the

[1:43:44] table in addition to that work that

[1:43:45] they're doing for us so after I I think

[1:43:49] it would be fair to say Daniel after

[1:43:50] several months of our finance team

[1:43:53] trying to reach out to staff at the

[1:43:56] ministry we felt it was important to

[1:43:58] bring it to Wellington Dupont which

[1:44:00] allows us to elevate it to the

[1:44:01] ministerial level so we're talking now

[1:44:03] to the minister through them as opposed

[1:44:05] to staff to staff so we're trying we're

[1:44:07] trying to elevate it to a political

[1:44:09] issue so it's the same as you would see

[1:44:12] in the work that we do in our advocacy

[1:44:14] when we go to Roma and so that is one of

[1:44:16] the things that we've highlighted this

[1:44:18] year to take to Roma is a discussion on

[1:44:20] the ocif funding and what's happening to

[1:44:22] the town of sing shes through that new

[1:44:24] formula as Daniel

[1:44:26] described yeah uh so I'll add on to that

[1:44:29] I working with um Ministry staff prior

[1:44:32] to the engagement of Wellington Dupont

[1:44:34] was certainly um uh

[1:44:38] frustrating process I I think it was

[1:44:40] helpful to get the attention of The

[1:44:41] Minister's office and um I want to re

[1:44:45] redo on my response in terms of whether

[1:44:47] anything can be done I I'll just say

[1:44:49] that I don't necessarily believe

[1:44:51] anything can be

[1:44:53] uh done to change the formula uh we are

[1:44:56] working with uh the asset management

[1:44:58] team to ensure that we are reporting as

[1:45:00] much infrastructure through the

[1:45:02] self-reported template as possible so as

[1:45:04] um as staff uh from a finance and asset

[1:45:07] management perspective we will be trying

[1:45:10] to ensure full accurate data that um

[1:45:15] give uh gives us the best opportunity

[1:45:18] for the formula to reflect uh payment

[1:45:21] towards our infrastructure needs

[1:45:26] councilor

[1:45:27] M thank you Deputy Mayor

[1:45:30] um I watched an interview with the

[1:45:33] minister of finance a few days ago uh

[1:45:37] interviewed by uh Steve pacon who does a

[1:45:40] great interview by the way um and and

[1:45:42] they were talking about the financial

[1:45:44] situation in Ontario and and he was

[1:45:46] describing to the interviewer how

[1:45:50] wonderful and Rosy the situation is in

[1:45:52] Ontario and and then in fact we're on

[1:45:55] the way within maybe two years of having

[1:45:58] a balanced budget in Ontario and and the

[1:46:01] the news was so good that they're uh

[1:46:03] they're planning on giving a a check of

[1:46:05] $200 to every man woman and child in

[1:46:08] Ontario next year but it's not to buy

[1:46:11] votes they made that quite clear it's

[1:46:12] not to buy votes but um I would think I

[1:46:16] I hope that at Roma we get a chance to

[1:46:18] and I'm sure there'll be other

[1:46:19] municipalities all looks like half that

[1:46:23] have had decreases in this ocif funding

[1:46:26] we'll we'll try and make the point and

[1:46:27] if I get the chance I'll get up to the

[1:46:29] microphone and make the point also that

[1:46:31] um you know sending out checks for

[1:46:34] $200 to people who are not expecting it

[1:46:36] or or in in some cases people who don't

[1:46:39] need it in a lot of cases like I don't

[1:46:41] think $200 is going to change my

[1:46:44] lifestyle in any way substantially or

[1:46:46] not um but they're they're choosing to

[1:46:49] do that with this money as opposed to

[1:46:51] reinvesting the money into good things

[1:46:54] like roads and bridges and

[1:46:56] infrastructure in in our community so um

[1:46:58] I was going to suggest maybe that we

[1:47:00] write a letter to the minister but I

[1:47:01] think we're only a little way ways away

[1:47:03] from Roma and I'm sure this is going to

[1:47:05] be a Hot Topic during that conference so

[1:47:08] I'm looking forward to attending Roma

[1:47:10] and bringing that message to the

[1:47:11] minister uh Peter bethan BBY that we're

[1:47:17] not particularly uh thrilled with these

[1:47:20] cutbacks and and we can see a trend and

[1:47:22] the trend is is not good even though

[1:47:23] they're partic they're anticipating

[1:47:25] Trends in the opposite direction so

[1:47:28] thank

[1:47:31] you councilor

[1:47:34] divinsky thank you Deputy Mayor it

[1:47:37] wasn't too long ago and no one's

[1:47:39] mentioned it this evening that our MPP

[1:47:43] Lisa

[1:47:45] Thompson I don't know if she's been

[1:47:47] contacted in any shape or form and uh we

[1:47:51] had her here not too long ago go for a

[1:47:54] luncheon and uh we told her about our

[1:47:58] concerns she took those concerns with

[1:48:01] her um exactly how much was done I don't

[1:48:04] know but at least we went up one level

[1:48:08] and I would like to uh

[1:48:12] suggest that we do the same thing again

[1:48:15] and have uh Lisa Thompson back and this

[1:48:19] could be one of the uh issues although

[1:48:23] it's based on formula as Dan says

[1:48:25] there's probably too much that can be

[1:48:26] done with it but that doesn't mean we

[1:48:29] shouldn't be able to get a detailed

[1:48:32] response uh from the ministry

[1:48:35] staff um they work for us like they work

[1:48:39] for the

[1:48:39] minister and uh we're entitled to that

[1:48:42] even though we know it's going to say

[1:48:45] here's why you can't have any more money

[1:48:49] but we need to involve I think Lisa

[1:48:52] Thompson

[1:48:54] because she is a member of the

[1:48:56] government and has that inside track so

[1:48:59] that's what I'm suggesting tonight thank

[1:49:03] you through you Deputy Mayor thank you

[1:49:05] for that suggestion and we will take

[1:49:07] that feedback and extend an invitation

[1:49:09] to Lisa Thompson to attend a meeting

[1:49:11] with Council to hear Sing shor's

[1:49:15] issues councelor

[1:49:17] stack thank you if I could add perhaps

[1:49:19] we could invite her specifically with a

[1:49:22] specific item itemized list and then we

[1:49:24] can advise the public whether she's

[1:49:26] willing or not to engage in that

[1:49:28] discussion with us because I've noticed

[1:49:29] you know we have no issues getting

[1:49:31] Representatives here when we're

[1:49:33] celebrating and recognizing the

[1:49:35] community which is really important but

[1:49:37] there's more to being our representative

[1:49:39] whether it's in the legislature or in

[1:49:40] Parliament than coming here to celebrate

[1:49:42] I'd like them to be able to sort of

[1:49:45] infor provide us with face-to-face

[1:49:47] discussion as to why these decisions are

[1:49:49] being made because this is a community

[1:49:51] that votes for them all the time

[1:49:54] through you Deputy Mayor not that I want

[1:49:56] to be in a position to defend our member

[1:49:59] of of parliament I think that's up to

[1:50:00] her but I will offer that um Lisa

[1:50:03] Thompson is very supportive of us when

[1:50:06] we attend Roma and Amo she often attends

[1:50:09] the town's delegations with us on behalf

[1:50:11] of um as our representative attends with

[1:50:14] those ministers she is very engaged we

[1:50:17] do interact with her staff quite

[1:50:19] frequently and bring forward all every

[1:50:21] grant that we apply for every issue that

[1:50:23] we have does go across her desk so I

[1:50:25] will just offer that but we will extend

[1:50:27] the invitation to her and I'm happy to

[1:50:29] prepare an agenda for that

[1:50:33] meeting councelor

[1:50:36] hin through you mayor Deputy Mayor if we

[1:50:39] have such good access how come we have

[1:50:41] to hire Willington Dupont to give us

[1:50:44] access to the Ministries

[1:50:53] through through you madam chair I don't

[1:50:54] know that I can offer any more than I

[1:50:55] said with my last answer uh we have

[1:50:58] access to our

[1:51:00] MPP uh the provincial government is is a

[1:51:03] large organization I don't know how big

[1:51:05] it is I could Google it but there are

[1:51:07] many ministers many ministers staff it

[1:51:10] is highly complex we did not hire

[1:51:13] Wellington Dupont to move forward

[1:51:15] discussions on ocf we hired them in

[1:51:17] order to advance our funding

[1:51:19] applications they offered to help us on

[1:51:22] this because we were hitting such a wall

[1:51:24] with um interactions with staff as you

[1:51:26] heard from our staff they tried for

[1:51:27] several months could not get answers so

[1:51:30] we decided it would be relevant to um

[1:51:33] elevate it to the minister

[1:51:38] level councelor hin okay I I think

[1:51:42] there's something wrong in the system

[1:51:44] when we have to spend taxpayers money to

[1:51:47] talk to the next level of government

[1:51:49] thank

[1:51:50] you councelor stack

[1:51:53] while I agree with councelor hlin I we

[1:51:55] recognize that this is not the to the

[1:51:58] town staff or the cao's issue you're

[1:52:00] responding to the realities of the

[1:52:02] political system and so at least from my

[1:52:04] end I'm not suggesting that the staff is

[1:52:07] the issue it's a frustrating process and

[1:52:10] I think I just wanted to recognize

[1:52:13] that well I want to thank Daniel for um

[1:52:16] both in his written report and his

[1:52:18] verbal com comments doing a pretty good

[1:52:21] job at explaining a vinal formula that

[1:52:24] doesn't make a whole lot of sense when

[1:52:25] you start to put the component parts

[1:52:27] together but the way you describe it

[1:52:29] helps us understand there is a

[1:52:30] recommendation before us that Council

[1:52:32] receive the Ontario community

[1:52:34] infrastructure fund ocif update report

[1:52:37] for information all those in favor

[1:52:40] that's carried we have um five items on

[1:52:43] the communications

[1:52:46] agenda any member wish to speak to

[1:52:49] councelor divinsky

[1:52:52] yes thank you deputy mayor uh the

[1:52:55] Southampton Bia

[1:52:57] minutes I'd like

[1:52:59] to pull out if I

[1:53:02] could I'm just bringing them up you'd

[1:53:06] think I'd know about this stuff and I do

[1:53:09] to a certain extent but what I wanted to

[1:53:12] point out

[1:53:13] is in the to report that I

[1:53:17] made uh which is item

[1:53:20] 12 I said that town is likely allocating

[1:53:24] an additional sidewalk snow plow to

[1:53:27] Southampton so that all streets will

[1:53:31] benefit

[1:53:33] period I did not

[1:53:35] say from this early morning wakeup

[1:53:39] service that was not me that said

[1:53:42] that thank you for that clarification

[1:53:45] thank

[1:53:48] you I can comment that the snowplow

[1:53:50] around the arena is pretty early morning

[1:53:53] wake up for me 3:30 most days um any

[1:53:57] other comments about any of these

[1:53:59] items okay then we'll move on to report

[1:54:02] of Municipal counselors Vice Deputy

[1:54:05] Mayor yeah thank you

[1:54:09] um Deputy Mayor and I I just uh want to

[1:54:13] congratulate all those who helped with

[1:54:14] the food bank um last Last Friday the

[1:54:17] day after Halloween I went over to the

[1:54:19] boat house and made my my cash to ation

[1:54:22] and thank the volunteers for all their

[1:54:25] good work that they were doing that day

[1:54:26] boy they were taking in a a ton of uh of

[1:54:29] canned goods so it was really good to

[1:54:31] see

[1:54:33] um November is um is is an important

[1:54:38] month in that uh men men across Canada

[1:54:43] will be growing a mustache in support of

[1:54:46] um raising awareness and funds for for

[1:54:50] Men's Health especially prostate cancer

[1:54:53] testic cancer mental health and suicide

[1:54:57] prevention and I just want to throw this

[1:55:00] out there to the community that and to

[1:55:02] all men and news media who covering this

[1:55:06] meeting tonight that

[1:55:09] um early detection through routine blood

[1:55:13] work can help save a father a son a

[1:55:17] friend a partner and a man's life and um

[1:55:22] if you're approach to make a donation to

[1:55:25] to a volunteer tax deductible make that

[1:55:29] donation and uh in support of raising

[1:55:31] awareness for for prostate cancer and

[1:55:36] uh I'll just leave it at

[1:55:39] that councelor

[1:55:44] Grace uh thank you U Madame Deputy

[1:55:47] Mayor um there's been a lot going on um

[1:55:52] I want to

[1:55:53] thank um everyone who was involved in

[1:55:57] organizing the Halloween event um on

[1:56:00] Halloween evening at Ferry

[1:56:03] Lake um I believe there were over

[1:56:07] 550 uh people involved in that and

[1:56:11] despite the fact that the weather closed

[1:56:13] in about halfway through um it was uh it

[1:56:17] was something that has been established

[1:56:20] now I think as a wonderful tradition a

[1:56:23] wonderful Community tradition that um is

[1:56:27] really terrific for our our children and

[1:56:30] uh their fam and the families and I also

[1:56:33] want to thank all of the local

[1:56:34] businesses Who provided

[1:56:36] trick-or-treating opportunities for

[1:56:39] families on the weekend throughout our

[1:56:41] downtowns um you're very busy and it was

[1:56:44] very generous of you to provide that

[1:56:46] opportunity as

[1:56:48] well um I wanted to remind people that

[1:56:51] the community dinners at St Paul's

[1:56:53] Anglican Church have started again they

[1:56:56] started in

[1:56:57] October and they are held on the second

[1:57:00] and fourth Wednesday of each month

[1:57:03] October to May from 5: to

[1:57:05] 6:15 uh p.m and uh I know some has been

[1:57:10] said about the uh human

[1:57:12] trafficking um event that was held at

[1:57:15] Faith Lutheran church so I want to thank

[1:57:18] Faith Lutheran Church for hosting that

[1:57:20] event over 200 50 people there organized

[1:57:24] by Aon zorzy in the port Elgen

[1:57:27] rotary and

[1:57:29] um you know it it it was um fantastic to

[1:57:35] see our sogging Shores police leadership

[1:57:39] in this and I'm very grateful to all of

[1:57:42] our social

[1:57:44] services uh who attended that and uh

[1:57:47] spoke on the panel discussion thank you

[1:57:52] councilor

[1:57:57] divinsky thank you Deputy Mayor um on

[1:58:01] October

[1:58:02] 30th I attended the RBC business

[1:58:06] Symposium right here as a matter of fact

[1:58:09] as did you and um it was an

[1:58:14] interesting uh an interesting uh get

[1:58:18] together uh some of it was above my pay

[1:58:21] grade when they they were talking but um

[1:58:25] I was happy to see our Deputy Mayor

[1:58:28] bring it back down to local with a with

[1:58:30] a question about local because it was

[1:58:33] getting way out there I had gone because

[1:58:36] I'd hoped this the Southampton Bia

[1:58:40] members would be there but it was the

[1:58:42] wrong time for them 8:00 am to 11:00 am

[1:58:46] they may have found it interesting and

[1:58:48] then on um November 5th I did it attend

[1:58:52] the AGM of the Bia some great comments

[1:58:57] come out of that meeting I thought it

[1:59:00] was well handled again our deputy mayor

[1:59:02] was there as was uh councelor Cheryl

[1:59:05] Grace and uh there were some great news

[1:59:08] come out of there and uh we'll share

[1:59:11] that I guess with Council on November

[1:59:15] 25th is it okay and then

[1:59:19] finally the winter hawks aren doing so

[1:59:23] great they're they're having a problem

[1:59:25] here winning and I think the problem is

[1:59:28] us the fans we've got to show more

[1:59:31] support so they're on the road for a

[1:59:34] while now November 22nd is the next home

[1:59:39] game for your sogging

[1:59:42] showers winter

[1:59:47] rocks councelor May yes thank you uh

[1:59:51] deput mayor I don't have very much to

[1:59:53] report except I'll just say thank you to

[1:59:55] the staff at at the reol Port Elgen uh

[1:59:59] store who are providing Co shots and flu

[2:00:02] shots and my wife and I took advantage

[2:00:05] of that opportunity last week and I

[2:00:07] encourage everybody to to get their Co

[2:00:09] shot co has not gone away it's uh it's

[2:00:11] still around so get your protection

[2:00:13] while it's available thank

[2:00:15] you councelor

[2:00:18] Halton councelor stack thank you just a

[2:00:22] quick one a reminder that it is the port

[2:00:23] algen ba Shoppers night on Thursday this

[2:00:26] week um depending on which sign you read

[2:00:30] it starts at around 5 5:30 is what the

[2:00:32] sign says but it starts at around 5: to

[2:00:35] 9 on Thursday

[2:00:37] thanks thank you um I have been the

[2:00:40] acting mayor for a week and uh so did a

[2:00:43] couple of things on behalf of the mayor

[2:00:45] and a few things on behalf of myself but

[2:00:46] I just wanted to comment um that I very

[2:00:49] much appreciated um the interactions I

[2:00:52] had with both the director of Public

[2:00:53] Works and with the fire chief who um I

[2:00:57] had occasion to ask them questions or

[2:00:59] have them be close enough to offer um

[2:01:02] support if needed uh at various events

[2:01:04] around the community so thank you to

[2:01:06] both um Mark and Ed um I was at the

[2:01:09] economic development um activity here at

[2:01:12] the nii with RBC and the nuclear

[2:01:14] Innovation Institute and Bruce Power um

[2:01:16] what I will say is that um at that

[2:01:19] meeting I met Agnes whose last name

[2:01:21] escapes but Agnes is now the full-time

[2:01:24] manager of the RBC location in sogging

[2:01:27] Shores that's a real win for us um

[2:01:30] because we did use to share um a manager

[2:01:33] with with another location so Agnes is

[2:01:35] here full-time very excited about that

[2:01:38] um councelor Grace and I um attended a a

[2:01:41] a little TBL talk uh Town Hall kind of

[2:01:44] meeting at Hampton Court we had a a I

[2:01:47] don't know if we were the captive

[2:01:48] audience or they were the captive

[2:01:50] audience but we uh we sat down with a

[2:01:52] group of uh women there and just shot

[2:01:55] the breeze about all kinds of things

[2:01:56] going on in town and and um the first

[2:01:59] thing that came up was the condition of

[2:02:01] sidewalks um so they they get out and

[2:02:03] about so U we we look forward to doing

[2:02:06] that in the future if anybody else wants

[2:02:07] to join I I try and do that a couple

[2:02:09] times uh each year I went to the Bruce

[2:02:11] County Historical Society AGM and one of

[2:02:14] the um topics there or the speaker there

[2:02:17] were the two filmmakers um Evan and

[2:02:21] Ivonne who are um involved with what's

[2:02:24] the name of their company oh my gosh I

[2:02:25] forgotten it but anyway they're they're

[2:02:27] the um pair that did the documentary

[2:02:30] series The three-part series The Bruce

[2:02:32] their current series that's out there

[2:02:34] right now is called all too clear it was

[2:02:36] broadcast on TVO over three Saturdays

[2:02:39] you can see it on YouTube though it's

[2:02:41] fascinating they had at the AGM the

[2:02:44] little underwater drone and I say little

[2:02:46] it's it's quite small but when you see

[2:02:49] the documentary the footage is just it's

[2:02:51] it's you know James Cameron going down

[2:02:53] to the Titanic it's it's amazing footage

[2:02:56] um of what's going on in the Great Lakes

[2:02:58] um setting up challenges opportunities

[2:03:01] and it's very inspiring to see um The

[2:03:04] Return of lake trout among other things

[2:03:06] and if you've ever wanted to know um how

[2:03:09] fish really get it on there's some of

[2:03:12] that footage in there too um you can you

[2:03:14] can watch it on YouTube I went to

[2:03:17] Southport um Church um was a week ago

[2:03:21] now they had a television crew there

[2:03:23] from the yes TV network um the church is

[2:03:26] involved in a number of of um activities

[2:03:29] but there's a um a prayer Network that

[2:03:31] they're very involved with so yes TV was

[2:03:35] there doing some filming they were out

[2:03:37] and around um so shores as well so um I

[2:03:40] was able to participate in their their

[2:03:42] program um I believe it's going to be on

[2:03:45] yes TV the first or second week of

[2:03:47] December um I'll try and get that

[2:03:49] information and maybe it can be shared

[2:03:52] I went to the South uh Hampton Bia GM as

[2:03:56] uh councelor D divinsky mentioned I also

[2:03:58] went to the port algen Bia meeting last

[2:04:00] week and councelor stack mentioned

[2:04:02] Shoppers night um at the that Bia

[2:04:04] meeting they also talked a little bit

[2:04:06] about the success of the market um

[2:04:08] exercise last summer and the um

[2:04:12] potential for possible expansion next

[2:04:14] year so I I assume we'll we'll hear from

[2:04:16] them soon um couple of the the bigger

[2:04:20] things that I did um perhaps

[2:04:22] where I got to go to County Council

[2:04:23] again last uh Thursday and it was um

[2:04:27] always it's always an interesting um

[2:04:29] experience but they were talking about

[2:04:31] their budget so it was a good sort of

[2:04:33] preamble to our own uh business planning

[2:04:35] budget meetings coming up and um it was

[2:04:39] certainly um helpful I guess to me to

[2:04:42] understand just the reach that the

[2:04:44] county has into sing Shores so if you

[2:04:46] haven't ever looked at the Bruce County

[2:04:47] budget um there's a lot of elements that

[2:04:50] touch on on what goes on here in so

[2:04:51] Shores I also went down to Bruce Power

[2:04:55] last Friday the CEO was also there for

[2:04:57] the announcement about um the the

[2:05:00] minister of energy was there Steven

[2:05:01] leche and Lisa Thompson was there as

[2:05:03] well and um and also Rick buers there

[2:05:08] was an announcement about how isotope

[2:05:10] manufacturing will be taking place right

[2:05:13] here in Bruce County we will no longer

[2:05:15] have to send off Material off to Germany

[2:05:18] to have it um created or or produced

[2:05:20] into a product that can then be used for

[2:05:23] cancer U treatments um that facility um

[2:05:26] will now be available in Bruce County

[2:05:28] they didn't say where but Bruce county

[2:05:30] is much closer than Germany they also

[2:05:32] said that uh unit 4 was about to start

[2:05:34] being refurbished in March um I

[2:05:37] continued on on Friday to County Road 19

[2:05:41] um where there was a plaque unveiling

[2:05:43] which commemorated the route that

[2:05:45] soldiers took um in

[2:05:47] 1916 from Walkerton to Chesley and back

[2:05:51] a mar Mar that they made they marched

[2:05:52] from Walkerton to Chesley to receive

[2:05:54] their colors it was the 160th Bruce

[2:05:57] Bruce Battalion they received their

[2:05:59] colors in Chesley from the premier at

[2:06:01] the time heern and then marched back to

[2:06:03] Walkerton that stretch of road is now

[2:06:05] named the highway for peace and their

[2:06:07] signage up I did want to end by saying

[2:06:10] um that um many of us were at

[2:06:12] Remembrance Day services today um at

[2:06:14] both port algen and the Southampton

[2:06:16] Senate halfs and it was good to have the

[2:06:18] involvement of of uh our own fire fire

[2:06:21] uh Fighters at those events and also the

[2:06:23] police were at at both events as well

[2:06:26] and if I could ask um I know that

[2:06:28] there's um a public engagement

[2:06:30] opportunity right now associated with

[2:06:32] the business plan um Can someone just

[2:06:35] comment on um what the timeline is for

[2:06:37] that I I just can't remember when the

[2:06:39] closing date is for the public to make

[2:06:41] comments oh

[2:06:44] yes uh thank you uh Deputy Mayor I don't

[2:06:48] know I'm looking at the back at Jill if

[2:06:50] she knows the closing date for I believe

[2:06:52] it's maybe the end of this week in order

[2:06:54] to allow us to prepare um the response

[2:06:57] in order for Council consideration on

[2:06:58] the 20th but uh the director of will be

[2:07:02] able to answer it better than I will

[2:07:04] when he's back in the room but access to

[2:07:06] the feedbook feedback is via the

[2:07:09] website is that correct yes okay thank

[2:07:13] you very much and having know new

[2:07:15] business I will now ask for a motion for

[2:07:17] adjournment of the committee of the

[2:07:19] whole councelor stack seconded by by

[2:07:21] councelor Halpin so um the motion is to

[2:07:24] adjourn at 8:38 p.m. all those in favor

[2:07:28] um and maybe we'll take a 10-minute

[2:07:30] break and reconvene at uh 10 minutes to

[2:07:35] 9ine thank

[2:07:50] you

[2:08:20] e e

[2:19:32] it is 10

[2:19:37] to9 it is 10 to n

[2:19:42] so I'm

[2:19:45] GNA I'm going to call to order this

[2:19:48] meeting this regular council meeting of

[2:19:49] the town of SOI Shores um for Monday

[2:19:53] November the 11th um we will um be we

[2:19:58] have a motion uh for an addition to the

[2:20:01] closed public session but uh before that

[2:20:04] happens um I'd like to just ask if

[2:20:07] members of council would be acceptable

[2:20:09] to moving item nine on the agenda 9.1

[2:20:13] which is the Environmental ad hoc

[2:20:15] committee final report if we move that

[2:20:18] up to the top of the agenda

[2:20:21] um ahead of um or right after we do the

[2:20:24] um Amendment which is the addition to

[2:20:27] the closed agenda is everyone in

[2:20:30] acceptance of moving that

[2:20:32] item okay thank you very much for that

[2:20:35] then we have

[2:20:37] um if you would like to uh declare a

[2:20:40] pecuniary interest anything on the

[2:20:42] agenda you can do that now or at any

[2:20:43] point during the

[2:20:45] meeting then the next item on the agenda

[2:20:48] is additions deletions or amendments and

[2:20:50] there there is a a request for a motion

[2:20:54] that would add to the close uh to public

[2:20:58] session the recommendation is that

[2:21:00] Council add item 6.3.3 to the close to

[2:21:04] public council meeting agenda for

[2:21:06] November the 11th 2024 and in accordance

[2:21:09] with the municipal act section 239 item

[2:21:12] two um subsection k a position Place

[2:21:16] procedure criteria or instruction to be

[2:21:18] applied to any negotiations carried on

[2:21:21] or to be carried on by or on behalf of

[2:21:24] the municipality or the local board um

[2:21:27] this relates to the Bruce C Municipal

[2:21:29] capacity funding update um can I have a

[2:21:31] mover and a seconder for that Amendment

[2:21:33] moved by councelor Grace seconded by

[2:21:35] councelor halpen any discussion all in

[2:21:38] favor thank you very much then we will

[2:21:41] jump down to 9.1 which is the

[2:21:44] Environmental ad hoc committee final

[2:21:47] report and um the recommendation is that

[2:21:51] the environmental ad hoc committee final

[2:21:53] report be received for information and

[2:21:54] referred to staff for a report back on

[2:21:57] the implementation of the

[2:21:58] recommendations of the committee

[2:21:59] councelor Grace has chaired that

[2:22:01] committee and she would like to speak to

[2:22:03] this

[2:22:06] report thank you Madame Deputy Mayor and

[2:22:08] thank you uh to my colleagues for

[2:22:11] allowing us to move this up I know that

[2:22:14] uh we have one member of the public in

[2:22:17] the in the audience and we have uh I

[2:22:20] think me members of the committee also

[2:22:22] at home who are watching and I'm sure

[2:22:24] they'd appreciate this being moved up

[2:22:27] I'm pleased to report that the

[2:22:28] environmental ad hoc committee has

[2:22:30] completed its assigned mandate and is

[2:22:33] presenting the attached report and

[2:22:35] supporting subcomittee

[2:22:37] reports as a reminder for all our charge

[2:22:40] grew out of the work of the

[2:22:42] 2021 environmental stewardship ad hoc

[2:22:46] advisory committee which presented its

[2:22:48] final report to council in February of

[2:22:52] 2022 from this report this year's

[2:22:55] committee was asked to do further work

[2:22:57] to support council's Direction regarding

[2:23:00] the creation of a sogging Shores climate

[2:23:02] action plan and an urban tree canaby

[2:23:06] plan and as well as a process for

[2:23:09] establishing an annual environmental

[2:23:11] stewardship award and improving

[2:23:13] Community awareness and engagement in

[2:23:16] environmental issues I want to thank the

[2:23:19] members uh the committee members for

[2:23:21] their hard work and contributions in

[2:23:23] completing this project odet bartnicki

[2:23:27] Dan dachuk councelor Bud halpen Kathy

[2:23:30] McIntosh Brent proud and Victoria sandre

[2:23:35] the committee also thanks these staff

[2:23:37] members for their support and guidance

[2:23:39] Mark poy Sarah bonde Don midd Holtz

[2:23:43] Frank buroughs Kristen Sears Jay pner

[2:23:47] Jill root and Laura muscone

[2:23:52] regarding developing a soggy Shores

[2:23:54] climate action plan our research makes

[2:23:57] clear the importance of taking action to

[2:24:00] increase increase climate resilience now

[2:24:03] to prevent greater costs in the future

[2:24:06] suggesting research suggests that every

[2:24:09] $1 invested in prevention and

[2:24:12] preparation can save up to $15 in future

[2:24:16] costs this includes evidence that

[2:24:18] sharply increasing municipal insurance

[2:24:20] rates can be lowered by ensuring that

[2:24:24] Municipal infrastructure is climate

[2:24:26] resilient the committee is recommending

[2:24:29] that the municipality join the partners

[2:24:31] for climate Protection Program which is

[2:24:34] affiliated with the Federation of canadi

[2:24:37] Canadian

[2:24:38] municipalities this program provides

[2:24:40] many resources to support climate action

[2:24:44] and environmental

[2:24:46] sustainability joining has no initial

[2:24:48] cost although preparing ing a climate

[2:24:51] action plan will have a cost how much

[2:24:54] depends on whether outside expertise

[2:24:56] needs to be

[2:24:58] hired very importantly there is also a

[2:25:01] much greater grant funding availability

[2:25:04] for municipalities with climate

[2:25:06] adaptation plans through programs like

[2:25:09] infrastructure

[2:25:10] Canada's green Municipal

[2:25:13] fund to Pro promote and create awareness

[2:25:16] of the environment the committee

[2:25:18] recommends establishing an annually

[2:25:20] appointed ad hoc environmental Community

[2:25:24] engagement committee this committee

[2:25:26] would support staff and reduce costs by

[2:25:29] promoting environmental sustainability

[2:25:31] through events and an environmental

[2:25:34] Champion Awards program recognizing

[2:25:37] household individual and business-based

[2:25:40] sustainable practices through public

[2:25:43] events and an awards program or an

[2:25:46] integral part of devel developing

[2:25:48] CommunityWide and environmental

[2:25:51] sustainability the committee supports

[2:25:54] the draft Urban Tree canopy plan and its

[2:25:57] recommendations including some of these

[2:25:59] additional

[2:26:00] recommendations focus on protecting and

[2:26:02] growing the municipal tree canopy

[2:26:05] through planting maintenance public

[2:26:08] education and active enforcement to

[2:26:11] protect Municipal trees and plants from

[2:26:14] illegal

[2:26:15] interference regarding trees on

[2:26:17] privately owned lands we recommend

[2:26:20] develop developing canopy protection at

[2:26:23] the level of wood lots and significant

[2:26:26] Woodlands for individual trees on

[2:26:29] smaller Lots focus on preservation

[2:26:33] education and incentivization through

[2:26:36] expanding subsidized tree planting

[2:26:39] program uh programs I should say uh and

[2:26:43] also encourage public engagement and

[2:26:45] increased data collection through the

[2:26:48] development of a citizen scientist type

[2:26:50] reporting system on the numbers of

[2:26:53] private trees including significant

[2:26:55] trees in conclusion the committee

[2:26:58] believes that no municipality is too

[2:27:00] small nor is it too early to create and

[2:27:04] Implement a climate action plan and

[2:27:06] improve its level of environmental

[2:27:09] sustainability our town has already

[2:27:11] implemented some changes to work towards

[2:27:14] this the work of the environmental ad

[2:27:17] hoc committee has demonstrated that

[2:27:19] Community involved ment support from

[2:27:22] Municipal leaders and providing

[2:27:24] opportunities for climate action will

[2:27:26] create a more sustainable sogging Shores

[2:27:29] thank you I am open to answering

[2:27:35] questions thank you very much councelor

[2:27:38] grace um are there any comments or

[2:27:41] questions this we will be receiving

[2:27:43] additional information um coming back

[2:27:46] from staff about um the recommendations

[2:27:48] in the committee's report are there any

[2:27:53] comments seeing none then the

[2:27:55] recommendation is that the environmental

[2:27:57] ad hoc committee final report be

[2:27:59] received for information and referred to

[2:28:01] staff for a report back on the

[2:28:03] implementation of the recommendations of

[2:28:05] the

[2:28:06] committee all those in favor that's

[2:28:11] carried I asked you if we did you didn't

[2:28:15] tell okay I guess we need a move in a

[2:28:18] second or yeah I knew I was gonna g mess

[2:28:20] up I told you um moved by councelor

[2:28:22] Halpin seconded by councelor

[2:28:25] Stack I won't read it again but all

[2:28:27] those in

[2:28:29] favor thank you very much that's

[2:28:40] carried um we have uh two sets of

[2:28:43] minutes um the recommendation is that

[2:28:47] Council adopt the minutes of the regular

[2:28:49] Council meetings of October 21 and

[2:28:51] October 28 2024 and Note and file the

[2:28:54] minutes of the committee of the whole

[2:28:56] meeting of October the 28th 2024 has

[2:28:58] presented can I have a moover and a

[2:29:00] seconder for that mve by councelor Grace

[2:29:03] seconded by councelor divinsky any

[2:29:05] discussion about the mo the U

[2:29:09] minutes I believe um there was one thing

[2:29:12] that was going to be corrected I think

[2:29:13] we noted um that you were at councelor

[2:29:17] mayette was at a meeting that you

[2:29:18] weren't at

[2:29:23] so that yeah so that that's been picked

[2:29:27] up um thank you through you uh Deputy

[2:29:30] Mayor Huber yes so for the October 21st

[2:29:33] uh we'll be moving uh councelor Maya

[2:29:37] from attending to

[2:29:40] absent thank you anything else all those

[2:29:43] in favor then and that's

[2:29:48] carried so now we're um it's recommended

[2:29:50] that we go into a closed public session

[2:29:53] and the recommendation

[2:29:57] is the council move into a close to

[2:29:59] public session in in accordance with the

[2:30:01] municipal act 2001 section 239

[2:30:05] subsection two um with item c a proposed

[2:30:09] or pending acquisition or disposition of

[2:30:12] land by the municipality or the local

[2:30:14] board D Labor Relations or employee

[2:30:17] negotiations and k a position plan

[2:30:21] procedure criteria or instruction to be

[2:30:23] applied to any negotiations carried on

[2:30:26] or to be carried on by or on behalf of

[2:30:29] the municipality or local board can I

[2:30:31] have a mover and a seconder for that

[2:30:33] moved by councelor Stack seconded by the

[2:30:35] Vice Deputy Mayor all in favor okay

[2:30:39] we'll go into

[2:30:48] closed

[2:31:18] e e

[3:29:58] hey I

[3:30:16] okay I'm we're going to resume our our

[3:30:20] meeting

[3:30:23] so there's a recommendation that Council

[3:30:26] arise from the close to public session

[3:30:27] and resume the regular council meeting

[3:30:29] can I have a move in a second or move by

[3:30:31] councelor halpen seconded by councelor

[3:30:34] mayette and I will report out that uh

[3:30:37] during the closed session uh Council

[3:30:40] provided direction to staff concerning a

[3:30:43] proposed or pending acquisition or

[3:30:46] disposition of land by the municipality

[3:30:48] um and Labor Relations or employee

[3:30:52] negotiations and also rep uh gave

[3:30:54] Direction related to a position plan

[3:30:57] procedure criteria or instruction to be

[3:30:59] applied to any negotiations carried on

[3:31:02] or to be carried on by or on behalf of

[3:31:06] the municipality

[3:31:29] so I've I've had had some amendments and

[3:31:32] nudged my way from over here uh first of

[3:31:35] all I didn't take the vote to resume so

[3:31:37] all in favor I thought I had okay so

[3:31:40] we're back in in open and in reporting

[3:31:43] about what happened um the direction was

[3:31:45] provided related

[3:31:47] to labor negotiations for collective

[3:31:50] bargaining and direction for on

[3:31:52] negotiations with the blue water

[3:31:53] district school board for potential land

[3:31:56] disposition and Council provided

[3:31:58] Direction on a negotiation for the Bruce

[3:32:00] SE Municipal capacity

[3:32:03] funding is that okay okay all right told

[3:32:07] you it was going to be fun okay we have

[3:32:10] um we're down to number eight in the

[3:32:12] agenda we have committee reports and

[3:32:15] there's a recommendation there are five

[3:32:17] items there for consideration uh does

[3:32:19] anybody want any of them taken um out

[3:32:22] and talked about separately or can we

[3:32:24] deal with them all out at

[3:32:25] once seeing

[3:32:28] nothing so I need a motion to um the

[3:32:32] recommendation would be that Council

[3:32:33] receive the landfill optimization

[3:32:36] environmental assessment terms of

[3:32:38] reference report for information the

[3:32:40] council received the public engagement

[3:32:42] comments and feedback on High Street

[3:32:44] reconstruction and senat improve

[3:32:45] improvements project report for

[3:32:47] information the council approved the

[3:32:49] capital budget pre-approval report dated

[3:32:52] October 28th 20124 totaling 2,

[3:33:16] any discussion about any of those all in

[3:33:19] favor that's

[3:33:21] carried we also have a committee report

[3:33:25] which uh the recommendation is that

[3:33:26] Council endorse the resolution from the

[3:33:29] town of Bradford West willberry

[3:33:32] regarding the Ontario deposit return

[3:33:34] program and that this resolution be

[3:33:36] circulated to Premier Doug Ford the

[3:33:39] Minister of Finance

[3:33:42] Peter bethlen FY MP Ben lob MPP Lisa

[3:33:47] Thompson and the sing Valley

[3:33:49] conservation Authority can I have a move

[3:33:50] in a second or for that move by

[3:33:53] counselor halpen seconded by councelor

[3:33:55] Stack is there any

[3:33:57] discussion all those in

[3:34:01] favor and then we have a uh notice of

[3:34:05] motion concerning um intimate partner

[3:34:08] violence that will be on a future agenda

[3:34:10] so it's just here for information at the

[3:34:12] moment and we're down to bylaws um we we

[3:34:15] have a recommendation that bylaw 87

[3:34:18] point or 87- 2024 is hereby read a first

[3:34:21] second and third time passed and sealed

[3:34:24] this 11th day of

[3:34:25] November um 2024 this is to authorize

[3:34:29] it's the authorized procedural

[3:34:31] bylaw can I have a mover in a seconder

[3:34:33] for that moveed by councelor Grace

[3:34:36] seconded by councelor Stack any

[3:34:39] discussion all those in

[3:34:41] favor and one more that's carried

[3:34:45] uh we have a recommendation that bylaw

[3:34:48] 88- 2024 being a bylaw to confirm the

[3:34:51] proceedings of the Council of the town

[3:34:53] of saging Shores he's hereby read a

[3:34:55] first second and third time and finally

[3:34:57] passed and seal this 11th day of

[3:34:59] November 2024 can have a move in a

[3:35:01] second for that moveed by councelor

[3:35:02] Stack seconded by councelor Halpin all

[3:35:05] those in

[3:35:06] favor that's carried one more uh a

[3:35:09] recommendation that this regular council

[3:35:11] meeting of November the 11th 2024 hereby

[3:35:14] adjourns at 10:06 PM can I have a move

[3:35:17] in a second for that move by councelor

[3:35:19] Stack seconded by counselor mayette any

[3:35:22] discussion all those in favor the

[3:35:24] meeting is adjourned thank you very much

Committee of the Whole

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