[1:35] The special meeting, Tuesday, September 1, 2025. Call this meeting to order. Do you have a quorum? And the first thing on the agenda is the citizen comments and I have one. The end of the day.

[1:52] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[1:56] Let's be prepared for a micro-trograph.

[2:02] I'm a little suspiciously Edward Vaughn.

[2:07] And his aslids written in Joe Ford,

[2:10] as I've seen those deviled and so troubled,

[2:15] I want to say, Bob, we humbly ask that you grant us the heart and mind the joe, remind

[2:23] us of our hope and commitment to the taxpayers of Seedra and help us to see pandas each

[2:30] other's differences as we work together as one governing body for the betterment of Seedra.

[2:37] Amen.

[3:39] I did a timeline where I had a conversation and I told him that I had a time and I thought it could be a two-week

[3:45] or a two-week timeline and he told me he would be tired, but he wanted me to do it all in the end.

[3:53] I made him to read that and so I told him I was going to do a website where he said to something like that

[3:58] and he wanted me to read it.

[4:00] It's a marathon.

[4:01] If you want to have a movie or you want to see a website and they see that I made everyone

[4:04] without going to change it, I got some online push to make.

[4:08] I want to do about that before he goes under the name of the office, um, really want to

[4:15] follow his name.

[4:18] Thank you.

[4:18] You did.

[4:22] I had a number four.

[4:24] Eric, are we not talking about something real quick about what Dee was discussing.

[4:29] I talked about it yesterday.

[4:32] I visited about trying to put together a workshop budget.

[4:37] And he said that he was going to talk to you about posting an agenda today for the, uh, the

[4:42] to tamp them a bit, but they'd be tamping the 15th in one agenda.

[4:48] Missing that today, that's now set, that's now set at us back quite a bit.

[4:55] Let me get my calendar open here, everybody got that agenda put up today.

[4:59] We could have gotten the 8th, 10th, 15th, that's really, you can't stop me, sir, the 8th.

[5:07] Yeah, that's it, that's it, sir.

[5:11] Yeah, I don't know for some, I would do you like to talk about that?

[5:16] I think that we must be able to stay still.

[5:24] Okay, so now that we've missed today's date, and it was just a proposal to you, but it is important.

[5:34] Now that we're on the second tomorrow, if you can get that out, three days is going to

[5:40] put us on a labor day, which is going to put us on the table.

[5:44] I would ask did you please put it on the table out tomorrow and get us on the 9th, get us

[5:53] on the 11th and then possibly we may need the 14th and if that agenda could come out tomorrow

[6:01] on the second look at each other. Now I'm done. I think I need to work on

[6:11] those 20.6.7

[6:14] fiscal. So this was on the agenda.

[6:28] It's on the agenda. It's on the agenda. Here we are

[6:34] I've had some discussions with Mayor about this and I've got what Mayor about it and

[6:42] the CCA humor for some of you and you know y'all in the past had this sort of preliminary

[6:51] vote on taking action to pass a proposed budget.

[6:57] That's different from actually adopting budget.

[7:00] You know, the adoption of the budget is what has to happen in my particular month after you have a budget here.

[7:08] You all have your proposed budget thought that you can have a sort of a vote preliminary down on a proposed budget, still calling it a proposed budget.

[7:21] And, you know, they've done this in the past, and I think the reason why they did it in the past really is just to make sure that the mayor of some budget officer has gotten all the relevant info that all council members may want to provide to the mayor for finalizing that

[7:47] It doesn't need to be gone, it's not an equally necessary step to take action and pass

[7:54] it or publish it, which requires these passing classes, but again, that's had to be gone.

[8:00] And I don't know whether y'all are equipped at this point to really have a discussion about

[8:07] So, with those reflections, it's up to you all, but decide I want to see you as a agenda.

[8:15] Okay. Well, I'm just, you know, I raised concerns today regarding the proposed budget.

[8:21] It was properly filed under local government code 102.0 verified.

[8:26] But the city attorney has provided response, explaining the legal position that fire is out as well as that statute.

[8:35] I do have some guilt in some and they will be addressed in the future.

[8:40] So this doesn't happen again, but I'm willing to rely on his advice for a limited purpose of recognizing that the legalist budget gets fired.

[8:51] I don't think we need to pass the proposed budget, it's simple, we have it filed, that

[9:00] is the proposed budget period.

[9:03] What I do think we need to do immediately is, in this discussion, it's set the days for

[9:09] the workshops,

[9:13] and the hearing, yep, and we need to set the days for each one of these

[9:20] since we're on item three within the budget,

[9:23] but it's set the date for the workshops and the budget key.

[9:27] I understand later that you can contact with the RAID

[9:30] and it's scheduled to go out on Wednesday.

[9:33] That's correct.

[9:35] OK, so how long after it's published,

[9:38] do we have to have a get it?

[9:41] So we know it.

[9:45] The hearing notice publication,

[9:46] According to local measurement, 1, 2, 0, 0, 6, 5,

[9:51] must run 10 to 30 days before the general hearing date was chosen.

[9:57] So if it's published on the 9th, which is the 1st night of the wave,

[10:02] that means we can have it a 19th or after.

[10:08] And

[10:11] in the next week,

[10:16] last week, we were talking about 7 to 3.

[10:19] We were talking about the 10th to the 30th day when they were based on that, but it's not

[10:29] that one sort of, that was my understanding.

[10:33] This has much grown in 10th, 30 days.

[10:36] Yeah, it can't be sooner.

[10:38] It can be later than 10 days before it can't be earlier than 30 days.

[10:46] So the expectation, last year, the story in that conversation was going to have a budget

[10:56] hearing on the 7th team, then notice was going to be published on

[11:06] the 7th team, the 7th

[11:10] We've been too late, actually, and so we're aiming to get it published by a second.

[11:19] What?

[11:21] They finally do that this past week for the, for this week, so the way.

[11:31] Yeah, it's supposed to be gone out this week.

[11:34] When is it?

[11:35] So my conditioning, I know she may call on Friday because I talk to time.

[11:41] I mean, today is the public meeting.

[11:42] That's tomorrow, the second.

[11:46] And on Friday.

[11:48] Tomorrow is the second.

[11:49] Tomorrow is the second.

[11:50] Yeah, the second.

[11:51] The second.

[11:52] Yeah.

[11:53] Yeah, the second.

[11:54] So, this is totally in line with the discussion that I haven't made.

[11:57] Yeah.

[11:58] The real dancing is what we can have.

[12:00] I won't get ahead of the fan.

[12:03] Okay.

[12:06] So we're on sub 10, it's public hearing, it's already been noticed, but I think that

[12:14] we have very productive meeting the workshop last Tuesday and last Thursday I don't think

[12:22] that we have productive meeting other than verified numbers and again there if we can get

[12:28] a agenda posted tomorrow that will give us Monday, on a holiday or a third day of the Tuesday,

[12:37] the 8th, the 9th, the 11th, and possibly maybe the 15th. I talked about this. I don't

[12:48] know that we need the 15th. I mean, we may just need the 9th and the 11th. But if there's

[12:57] something that you need to follow up on. We can even do, we can even do one year before

[13:01] change of movement. A moment in whatever we need to do to get the budget done. One thing

[13:07] that we do have to do is we're going to have to vote on the 17th. And if we don't start

[13:13] getting together collectively as a council, and you're not letting this stuff out, we can't

[13:18] get together collectively as a council. You know, the 17th is going to show up, and you're

[13:23] going to hear Dan and say, I'm sorry, we haven't had anything to talk about and I'm possibly

[13:27] going to vote no. So we need to have workshops with together marijuana. Suggestion is we

[13:32] get an agenda out tomorrow for three more workshops. Okay. I don't think we have to put that in

[13:38] about.

[13:47] Yeah, this new. Okay, so we do. And let's say everybody wants to make a

[13:59] motion. Well, I think what I think what Renewers talk to is that we have a

[14:03] council meeting on the day we've got we've got a workshop that we can do for

[14:08] the council meeting. On that day, I think. Just need to call for it. Is there

[14:18] Any motion that needs to be made on the agenda item?

[14:24] No, we'll move on to item 4.

[14:31] 2026 to 2027 to pose that tax rate.

[14:36] Consider discussing and taking action to adopt a imposed 2026 to 2027 that tax rate.

[14:44] If you look on the first page of the handout, you will see the impact rate that we've received

[14:54] from CCID is 1-8.18.

[15:02] The motion is not adopted, we cannot adopt until we have a budget.

[15:08] And that is absolutely correct.

[15:12] I agree with 0.18, zero.3.

[15:16] You're adopting your budget.

[15:18] What's your number six, four, five, six, seven, eight.

[15:19] The point, isn't it?

[15:20] The debt tax rate was 0.18, is it on sale?

[15:24] 0.18, zero.

[15:26] I'll give you a second.

[15:27] All right.

[15:29] In this, there's a second name of that.

[15:32] All of the favourites say aye.

[15:35] All opposed, like so.

[15:38] I don't know.

[15:43] All right.

[15:44] 2026, the 2027 proposed maintenance and operation, MNO,

[15:49] Tech-Rade.

[15:50] Consider us to approve of taking the action to adopt the proposed MNO

[15:55] action rate.

[15:56] And you'll go for your chart.

[15:58] The one that we've received was 0.5078, was what the county gave us.

[16:05] I'm not sure to be in group, but not adopt 0.5078.

[16:12] I'm going to talk to you again.

[16:13] I get a second.

[16:14] I get a second.

[16:16] In three seconds.

[16:17] I'm going to say hi.

[16:19] No.

[16:19] I don't want to.

[16:19] All opposed by time.

[16:22] Most of the best.

[16:24] Agenda item number 6, accrued total at rates 256, that's the total of the maintenance

[16:32] of the human honor and the debt tax rate, which brings us to 0.6881, and that is the

[16:40] and only revenue tax rate.

[16:42] I'm motionally accepting only a revenue tax rate at 0.6881.

[16:49] Second.

[16:50] I'll say.

[16:51] In three seconds.

[16:53] All five say aye.

[16:55] All of those.

[16:56] My turn.

[16:57] Motion passed.

[17:06] All right.

[17:06] So the next two items.

[17:09] We found that we don't have to actually bring these to you.

[17:16] I mean, I think it's probably a good idea for the all to make sure that everybody knows

[17:24] what to do about the budget and about the tax rates because, you know, there's a requirement

[17:31] for more than simple maturity for some of these folks.

[17:35] And so we want to make sure I think that they all are all driven on what the days are.

[17:40] But, I mean, strictly speaking, the mayor can just issue the notice in the meeting where that's going to be paid at all.

[17:47] Well, you also must have published a mail at least seven days before it taxed rate for the option date, so we want to make sure there isn't that.

[17:54] Yeah.

[17:56] So, that's another good reason for reading when you all want to do this.

[18:01] but this physical budget is that something that can be addressed on 17 because we passed over, we didn't, we didn't adopt, we didn't accept, we didn't do anything on item number three.

[18:17] Yeah, yes, and so no budgets have been adopted in the code says under one or two

[18:25] well they said they had a timely and an outcome of the budget adoption follows the public care.

[18:31] Right, you can't.

[18:32] You're

[18:38] an agency last year, they actually did it all according to what I'm saying.

[18:43] Well, when I understand it and I want what I want, what I want to understand is yesterday

[18:48] and Bob and Bob are talking something

[18:50] that may be about the sledgehammer.

[18:52] Bob pulled out last year's agenda.

[18:54] Okay, just because for a problem of last year's agenda

[18:57] doesn't mean that we're following the right agenda by all.

[19:01] So it may have been improperly adopted last year.

[19:07] And if we follow that same mirror,

[19:09] then we follow the same errors we did last year.

[19:12] And that's my concern.

[19:14] I can't slow you down, double check the law, not just to sue, because it's the way it was done before.

[19:22] It is correct that you can have your public hearing immediately after you can adopt the budget.

[19:30] And then immediately after that, you can adopt the tax rate.

[19:38] I don't think that the following taxes were this, you know, all the taxes were this,

[19:45] it's not great.

[19:45] You can do it immediately after that, but you still have to have a notice that you're

[19:50] going to do it actually on that date.

[19:53] You always think, I really think it's nice to have a room because if something comes up

[19:57] in the public hearing and we want to change the budget, that doesn't leave jobs.

[20:05] So that is why I was trying to do it all the same over the two times.

[20:10] And that's why I think Yolanda in the past had these sort of preliminary votes on her

[20:16] proposed budget.

[20:17] She makes sure everybody's input has been, I mean, Mr. Reeson's agreement to give some input

[20:25] on that.

[20:25] But I would think that that's been hard to release it for a lot of people.

[20:30] What it built these extra steps in.

[20:33] I do not see there's any legality here.

[20:36] It's just not necessary.

[20:39] But it might work as much as the work shots out to work all the way out.

[20:47] Hopefully the work would be

[20:51] best.

[20:52] Yes, they have that extra step.

[20:58] So now what do you want to do?

[20:59] Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, we're going to go, we're going to go four on a set of teams.

[21:06] I'm still going to have to put my ducks on record that we didn't, we don't have an adopted

[21:12] budget.

[21:13] The code is saying that the timing and the outcome of the budget reduction follows the public

[21:19] hearing.

[21:20] I mean, it's sorry that we've done this in the past this way, but I'm trying to look at the

[21:25] law.

[21:25] And I defer, I defer to Bob, Bob, because this is what you guys don't understand, everybody

[21:32] at this table, if we do something that's down probably wrong, it's budget, we get our

[21:37] beach individually wildly sent in the future, so that's what I'm doing, so careful.

[21:47] Okay, so the budget's hearing though, I'm not sure that I'm understanding what the budget hearing on the

[21:58] and the notice is going in paper for a second.

[22:05] Where's the digital problem?

[22:07] Well, the problems if you don't have a adopted budget tonight.

[22:13] Right, you don't adopt the budgets.

[22:16] The 17th floor after,

[22:22] yeah.

[22:23] So, I mean, you have a budget here and you do adopt the budget, but you adopt the budget.

[22:30] Yes, I mean, you can't, you

[22:37] can't actually

[22:38] announce the 98 to the next one.

[22:43] That's, that's, that's what you're talking to,

[22:45] what you're talking to.

[22:48] Yeah, the pass rate of the document is,

[22:50] so that's something that's going to be,

[22:52] that's going to be just under

[22:55] 26th of the whole page line.

[22:57] That's going to be,

[22:58] that's going to be the end of the month.

[23:03] Well, we had a discussion with CCID today.

[23:07] And even though the end of the month is the law, what they said was that it takes,

[23:18] they need to have at least two weeks before that so that they can do what they need

[23:25] along with the publisher two weeks.

[23:29] And so during that, that's why they wanted us to go ahead and give these to nine.

[23:35] So this week, they were worried because the involved was talking to Bill about 22nd and 29th and had the loss which fell out.

[23:45] But she was saying that, yes, that's true, but at the same time, we needed earlier so that we get all the stuff in order by the end before the end of the month.

[23:58] And so she was saying that she needed work as an army.

[24:03] Their preference is for it to be done earlier.

[24:05] I mean, I certainly can understand that.

[24:08] And I would assume that it was an average for some

[24:11] and budgeting, actually something that the proceeding

[24:14] should have done has been really impossible.

[24:17] My inspection was, of course, on making sure

[24:21] that we need to fill out the last pages.

[24:24] But at the budget hearing, certainly,

[24:26] And you know, the city must pay some action on the budget at the end of the year, and that

[24:30] can be the adoption of a five-bit portfolio of its own financial funding.

[24:35] So at your peer reviews on the 17th, you could vote on the budget on the 17th.

[24:44] And hopefully, whatever workshops you'll do, if we now then, we'll generate enough consensus

[24:55] that we all will be able to do that.

[24:56] Well, I think one of the things that's being taken out of this equation is that we don't have

[25:01] the public, it's being able to come in and testify to what they want to be.

[25:06] I mean, workshops wouldn't make it work. Right. Is that in your work? Well, my point is on 17th

[25:12] as a public hearing, and if we adopt a physical body tonight, nobody can speak to it on the public hearing

[25:20] and that's why these things come after the public hearing and after the adoption of this. So,

[25:25] that the people can come and if they've got agreement, they can speak the agreements.

[25:31] If we do everything except for the top budget that might, I don't know what they have

[25:40] to come with public hearing board.

[25:52] I think they played on that piece from the inside of it, but the people should know on the

[25:57] and they want adopting the budget and adopting the rate.

[26:02] I love the date of the 17th.

[26:05] But we're here for the new year.

[26:06] Yes, that's my

[26:12] 100th.

[26:13] So this is this stuff that's on the agenda time

[26:16] and it's stuff that's host adoption.

[26:32] We have decided that September 2nd and 15th

[26:37] to be a big day for us to finish up with everything.

[26:47] And that really definitely has to go for a motion

[26:52] because legally that's not something that has to be decided

[26:58] here but set for them 17 is what I'm gonna pick up

[27:03] just we don't have to go through and have a motion.

[27:06] Yeah, I mean, the 17th is the date for the budget, you don't have to, not the budget, not the date for it.

[27:19] But I think, you know, this project is quite interesting.

[27:21] It might not be a good idea.

[27:27] So, I mean, we can't read.

[27:29] I mean, we can't adopt that.

[27:32] This is, I mean, I'm asking you as a city attorney for guidance of number 7 and number 8.

[27:41] do you think, or those things tonight would be necessary to keep our citizens from being

[27:49] at the Commonwealth in the 17th?

[27:51] Yeah.

[27:51] Well, to

[27:59] the extent that if you vote on this number 700, set a date on the adoption of

[28:05] the budget.

[28:08] That's a good point.

[28:09] That could be problematic because then that says that's really going to adopt and then you

[28:15] You can lose the flexibility that the standards be allowed, that you could adopt the budget after

[28:20] the year.

[28:22] That is correct.

[28:26] So why don't we just scratch out those slides, because we said that, right?

[28:33] If nobody has a motion to make on seven or eight, then we'll just, you know, in that way

[28:37] more, we go to the workshop, we can discuss that for a little bit more.

[28:43] I see your issue now, I'm going to say, it's not a legal question, it's more of a policy

[28:48] You have to have a kind of structure of these things.

[28:50] Well, it's a representative question,

[28:52] it's being an all, and I have to look out for my constituents,

[28:55] so of course, and your perspective is focused on policy aspect,

[29:01] in my opinion, and my answer is,

[29:04] legally, you can pass it on the right.

[29:07] Right, legally, you don't have to.

[29:09] So, it's a policy decision, yeah,

[29:12] but I mean, the people that are keeping the city a lot,

[29:15] we've got out of that.

[29:16] Yeah, all right, I think you're full.

[29:18] Okay, so we're going to pass on seven here today.

[29:22] I don't know if you need to ask anybody.

[29:24] Is there any vote in the bill seven?

[29:27] Is there any vote in the bill eight?

[29:31] Let's move to nine.

[29:32] Do we need it?

[29:33] Let's be concerned.

[29:34] I have an objection that I will.

[29:37] All these items listed on the executive session to see why I.

[29:43] I think it needs to be specific.

[29:44] If you have a plan for executive session,

[29:47] but not because they're ready to know what it is under these and it's covered not just

[29:53] of lightening it.

[29:54] I thought it was my dead potential.

[29:56] Well, it's not a good thing though.

[29:58] Well, no, we should slide.

[30:00] Those sections, but you don't just list all of them, because hey, we do not have anything to do with the information. Well, then you move. Well, to speak when there was an anticipation of executive sentiment, it is, I can buy specifics, but it is also a potential to go into the executive sentiment on an item, an immediate agenda, separately, and somehow or another, sometimes,

[30:29] it might not. And if you don't have them there, there's a bit of discussion might be.

[30:34] So, yeah, because we can, but we can agree that if you want to list it this way, we can

[30:42] not enter them to executive session, just not as simple, but we're going into executive session.

[30:48] That has to, at the point that you say we're going into executive session, you have to say why you're

[30:54] going into executive session on a bill code that you're going on there before.

[30:59] Yes.

[30:59] But just in sympathy, if you're unfamiliar with the practice, at least as I can come up

[31:05] to you to it.

[31:05] I know there's going to be an executive session on something I say to you.

[31:10] But it is an agenda.

[31:11] Yeah.

[31:12] So, Barbara, you, I mean, have you had the Texas Attorney General and you know, looks at what

[31:17] they call the worst rules item that Karen's speaking to?

[31:21] Yeah.

[31:22] specifically, and I agree with what you're saying, we don't know tonight, we may sit here

[31:27] and something may come up and we need you to say we can go into the active stuff in current

[31:31] conservation. And if you don't have that listed specifically on the agenda, then go ahead and

[31:36] do that. But it also, there's also a conflicting opinion on the accounting general, it says that we have

[31:42] it in our agenda. So we'll have to talk about that. It does, we do need to make sure that this one

[31:50] and we don't want to go into the discussion that it's clearly

[31:52] spoken by them.

[31:55] You know, can I?

[31:57] Very good.

[32:05] Go ahead and do me.

[32:14] Go ahead and do me.

[32:15] I said that citizen comments.

[32:17] I think we're going to have to go there.

[32:20] If you want to hear comments from the citizen from citizens,

[32:24] I don't think I was thinking about it.

[32:26] Yes. Okay. I just want to put it on. Just to clear our phone. So we've got our standard

[32:36] on the 8. We've got a workshop or a pool on the 8. Because we do have a regular. Yeah,

[32:42] correct. And then on 9, 11 and 15. Yeah, if we don't, if we do that, and if we don't,

[32:51] We're in person.

[32:52] Any other things?

[32:53] Well, I think that was more than a venture.

[32:55] I didn't know.

[32:56] Well, we can't do it in the summary.

[32:58] Well, I mean, we don't.

[33:00] We don't.

[33:01] Do we have to get in the summary?

[33:02] Does it end now?

[33:03] The agenda is not out.

[33:04] No, no.

[33:05] I post the summary.

[33:06] I post the summary.

[33:07] We've got that one session for Solvian.

[33:09] But you said you had to borrow.

[33:11] Yes.

[33:11] You had to work shop on that.

[33:13] That covers this on the page.

[33:15] It's a borrowed.

[33:16] If you can give another one out, that would cover us for the term.

[33:27] I mean, I don't know how do you guys, I mean, how do you guys think about the work, do you think about the most?

[33:35] I think, well, the schedule is made as possible, for the 8th, the workshop, we only have like 3 minutes for this morning and that's where we have a lot to get into.

[33:44] I don't know.

[33:45] And we don't have it.

[33:46] It's only and things we need to discuss.

[33:49] I saw it.

[33:49] They can call it workshop.

[33:51] Yeah, it can be a 4 billion.

[33:54] Yes.

[33:54] I'll see.

[33:55] I'll see.

[33:56] I'll see.

[33:56] We said, I know.

[33:57] I know.

[33:58] It was loud.

[33:58] That's true.

[33:59] What?

[34:00] I was just looking.

[34:02] I'm going to show our mine.

[34:03] OK.

[34:05] We've been out.

[34:07] So I guess maybe you could less than week worth of workshops.

[34:10] I'm going to have a betful okay on the next one.

[34:12] You can put the nose out on the top and then you can do another nose and do a workshop, and this is a list of the things you can't tell us.

[34:25] Yeah, and then we get it done, two guys, and they're ready.

[34:28] Then we're going to have to have the other.

[34:33] Okay, 7-0-3, I'm like a motion catcher on it.

[34:37] Motion?

[34:38] It's 7-0-3, but may, but all within a bridge.

[34:42] Second.

[34:43] Oh, there.

[34:44] And 3-0-2.

[34:45] Seconded.

[34:46] All in favor for that?

[34:47] Aye.

[34:48] All opposed by time.

[34:54] Let's show it all.

City Council Special Meeting

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