[3:34] do the uh municipal authority first, but

[3:36] since we have an employment, I'm going

[3:37] to go ahead and do

[3:40] the council meeting first, and we'll

[3:41] reach back and do the municipal, Jay, if

[3:43] you don't mind. So, um

[3:46] we're going to go ahead and call the

[3:46] meeting to order. Can we have a roll

[3:48] call, please, Jay?

[3:49] >> Chris Conner? Daniel Miller?

[3:51] >> Here.

[3:52] Larry Church? Mr. Scott Rossman?

[3:54] >> Here.

[3:54] >> Mr. Hanson?

[3:55] >> Here.

[3:57] >> Mr. Jeff Mann?

[3:57] >> Here.

[3:58] >> Mr. John Kramer?

[3:59] >> Here.

[4:00] >> Mr. Corey Wreck?

[4:01] >> Here.

[4:02] >> All right, moving on to appointments.

[4:05] Consideration and possible action to

[4:07] approve the mayoral appointment of Mark

[4:09] Childers as Ward 2 City Council member

[4:12] to replace Jolene Doucet who resigned.

[4:15] Just to give you guys a little bit of

[4:16] background, I had him give me a little

[4:17] bit of a bio so you guys know a little

[4:19] bit about Mark. Um,

[4:21] he uh

[4:22] Mark and his family have lived here for

[4:23] 35 years here in Seminole

[4:26] with his wife Karen.

[4:27] They have two children, both graduated

[4:29] from Seminole High School, Nathan and

[4:31] Caitlin.

[4:32] Mark holds a Bachelor of Science from

[4:35] ECU

[4:36] with graduate work at OU Health Science

[4:38] which is not completed yet. He's still

[4:40] going to school.

[4:42] It's amazing.

[4:43] All right. And

[4:44] he also worked for the Oklahoma State

[4:46] Department of Health for 33 years

[4:47] working as working as a public health It

[4:50] was inspector, correct?

[4:52] Specialist and then environmental health

[4:53] specialist in consumer health and

[4:56] safety.

[4:58] He currently owns a private consulting

[4:59] business that goes along those lines.

[5:02] He is a member of our wellness center

[5:04] board.

[5:06] And this is just a reminder for everyone

[5:08] that's here. He is just finishing out

[5:10] the term. So if you want to stay on and

[5:14] join us forever, you're going to have to

[5:15] refile in December. So just so you know.

[5:18] So

[5:20] I've known Mark for quite some time,

[5:22] especially on the wellness center board.

[5:24] He's been a great asset to the wellness

[5:26] center board

[5:27] being a health facility with a degree in

[5:29] that area. It's really helpful. So

[5:33] I'm not sure whose voice that is.

[5:35] >> It's not a French horn. That's a closed

[5:37] door.

[5:38] >> Okay.

[5:38] >> [laughter]

[5:38] >> Just making sure.

[5:40] But uh

[5:42] I had I had a couple long conversations

[5:44] with Mark and made sure that he was

[5:46] willing to serve and willing to speak

[5:49] your mind and make sure that you do

[5:50] what's best for [music] Seminole, not

[5:52] just provide us with a person in the

[5:54] chair. So, um and I appreciate that. Uh

[5:57] I told him I said, "You'll hit some

[5:58] rough spots sometimes when you have to

[6:00] vote your heart and it may not be what

[6:02] everybody else wants you to do." So,

[6:04] that's just part of it. So, um that

[6:07] would be my appointing and of course you

[6:09] guys have to

[6:11] uh I need a motion and a second to and a

[6:13] vote to approve him before we can have

[6:15] him.

[6:16] He's already set his cup and his phone

[6:17] down up here, so

[6:19] if you guys don't approve him, I'm

[6:21] throwing him back.

[6:22] So.

[6:23] >> Second.

[6:24] >> Can we have a roll call, please, Jay?

[6:27] >> Dana Miller?

[6:28] >> Yes.

[6:29] >> Scott Ross?

[6:30] >> Yes.

[6:31] >> Chris Anthony?

[6:31] >> Yes.

[6:33] >> Jeff Mandell?

[6:34] >> Yes, sir.

[6:35] >> John Craig?

[6:35] >> Yes.

[6:36] >> Luis Perez?

[6:37] >> All right.

[6:38] Mark, if you will, we're going to let

[6:40] Brad do your oath of office before you

[6:42] have a seat.

[6:44] I need your signature in blood.

[6:49] » Repeat after me.

[6:51] I, state your name,

[6:53] >> Mark Gordon,

[6:53] >> do solemnly swear

[6:56] >> that I will faithfully execute

[6:59] >> the office of Seminole City Council

[7:03] >> as well as supporting

[7:06] >> the Seminole Municipal Authority

[7:09] >> the Seminole Tourist

[7:12] >> the Seminole Nation Authority

[7:14] >> the Seminole Housing

[7:17] >> and to the best of my ability

[7:20] >> preserve, protect, and defend

[7:23] >> the Constitution of the United States

[7:26] >> the Constitution of the State of

[7:29] Oklahoma

[7:29] >> and charter of the City of Seminole OK.

[7:34] >> And may God bless this city.

[7:40] » There you go.

[7:40] >> Here you go. Give this to the guy.

[7:42] >> Hurry up.

[7:43] before he changes his mind.

[7:45] >> [laughter]

[7:48] » Now, run with it.

[7:59] All right.

[8:01] Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. All

[8:03] right, we're going to move on to bids

[8:04] under item one.

[8:06] Consideration and possible action to

[8:07] approve the purchase of a 60-ft LED

[8:10] Christmas tree and accessories from

[8:12] Living Light Shows at a cost of $93,480

[8:17] plus enrollment in the annual seasonal

[8:19] maintenance support and light exchange

[8:22] program for $8,780

[8:25] for a total of $102,260.

[8:31] So, I've got a

[8:34] presentation if you care to see it. So,

[8:36] >> Let's go ahead.

[8:37] >> Uh this is this is what we had been

[8:39] discussing in the public hearings and in

[8:42] the budget sessions and

[8:45] uh getting to the Christmas tree. The

[8:47] reason for the special meeting was to

[8:49] try to get it ordered in time for us to

[8:53] come in and get it installed for the

[8:56] next Snowman Wonderland.

[9:01] This is what we're talking about. Some

[9:03] of these will vary in size. Ours roughly

[9:06] is

[9:07] double that, I think. That's a 15-ft

[9:11] uh streetlight.

[9:15] Yeah, so that ours will be twice that

[9:17] tall.

[9:33] » [music]

[9:35] >> And that is that sound system is within

[9:39] the tree. So, what you're hearing is not

[9:41] background music, that's actually coming

[9:43] from the judge.

[9:50] And again, this is a smaller tree, but

[9:53] you get the idea.

[9:55] >> Smaller than ours?

[9:57] >> Okay.

[10:03] » What is the size of the

[10:08] » 65?

[10:10] That's what I'm thinking is 65.

[10:18] » Now for the new tree we do

[11:02] » There's the

[11:04] Well, that just shows the crowd around

[11:07] a similar tree.

[11:11] Oh,

[11:12] I didn't know that one had a video on

[11:13] it.

[11:15] Oh, it's a drone.

[11:19] » Did Shawn do this?

[11:20] >> Shawn put all this together. He's a

[11:22] master.

[11:52] » So, uh

[11:53] you'll recall

[11:55] one of the things that kind of prompted

[11:57] what what we were discussing was the

[11:59] fact that according to our Placer AI

[12:03] phone tracking systems,

[12:05] uh we're able to track different events,

[12:08] or were able. We don't We haven't

[12:10] renewed that contract, but we were able

[12:13] to track previous events.

[12:16] And uh

[12:17] everything from Made in Oklahoma to

[12:21] over the baseball tournaments and things

[12:23] like that. And Snowman Wonderland

[12:26] brought approximately 55,000 visitors to

[12:30] Seminole.

[12:31] There was a little bit of debate. We

[12:33] couldn't find it in our records. We

[12:35] think that 55,000 was actually

[12:38] non-resident visitors, but

[12:41] uh

[12:42] let's just say 55 total for now.

[12:46] According to the Department of Tourism,

[12:49] the day trip tourists will spend between

[12:52] 50 and 250,000

[12:55] $250 each. So, if we just take out our

[13:00] residents, let's just say we drop 55,000

[13:03] to 45,000,

[13:05] our day trip tourists will spend on the

[13:07] low end of $50, that comes out to $2.2

[13:11] million

[13:12] in economic impact to our community.

[13:16] So, that was one of the driving factors.

[13:19] The original Christmas tree that we have

[13:21] has been built over the last 15 or so

[13:24] years,

[13:25] and it's come to the end of its useful

[13:28] life. Our plan is to basically take

[13:31] about half of it and maybe move it up to

[13:34] where the dancing lights were.

[13:37] Uh so

[13:38] in front of the

[13:41] wellness center.

[13:42] Uh but we're not going to try to

[13:45] put it put it back together. We're

[13:47] afraid at some point it it's going to be

[13:50] a problem.

[13:51] Uh

[13:52] and the dancing lights are no longer

[13:54] viable. So we don't have the the

[13:56] flashing and the dancing music and and

[14:00] the fun things that were such a big

[14:01] attraction to our snowman event.

[14:05] Obviously, we need the tourism and the

[14:09] beauty of the of the snowman wonderland

[14:11] is it's a long-term event. So it lasts

[14:13] well over 30

[14:16] 38 days, Bryant, somewhere in there, 40

[14:18] days.

[14:19] So it's a it's a really good generator

[14:23] for us.

[14:26] We don't want this to get stagnant. We

[14:28] want to keep the event fresh and

[14:30] exciting and we you know, it's not one

[14:33] of those things that you can come this

[14:35] year and you don't need to come back

[14:37] because it's all the same. Uh this is

[14:39] going to really freshen it up and will

[14:42] continue to be refreshed because

[14:45] they will reprogram each year.

[14:48] And so that the the dancing will vary,

[14:51] the music will vary, so

[14:53] uh

[14:55] it it has been one of if not the most

[14:58] incredible morale bo- booster for our

[15:01] community

[15:02] having the snowman wonderland. It's just

[15:05] uh it brightens everything,

[15:08] especially during that time of year.

[15:10] It's a great event. And it's recognized

[15:12] statewide, so

[15:15] it's it's something that builds

[15:16] credibility for us.

[15:19] Our restaurants love the boost and we

[15:22] continue to hear that we need more

[15:24] restaurants, right? Everybody's heard

[15:26] that from one time or the other. This

[15:28] kind of event

[15:30] is important to keep our existing

[15:33] restaurants healthy, but also keep

[15:35] others looking at us.

[15:37] So,

[15:40] one of the things that I I always brag

[15:43] about you guys is that you're you're

[15:45] fantastic at trying to balance

[15:48] uh our budgets with the

[15:50] emergency services. We put streets and

[15:53] water and and

[15:55] parks, you name it.

[15:58] Code enforcement has has been a huge

[16:00] investment that you've made, but quality

[16:03] of life is always going to be a piece of

[16:06] that and this, I believe, is one of the

[16:08] quality of life issues.

[16:16] Did I miss my

[16:22] Stand by. We got a technical glitch that

[16:25] should be solved momentarily.

[16:40] Okay. Do you remember the factors?

[16:44] The slides that we Okay. That was it?

[16:48] All right.

[16:54] Okay. Do you have any questions?

[16:55] >> I do.

[16:56] Couple of questions.

[16:58] I know this has already been allocated

[16:59] here and

[17:01] >> Yes, sir. That's It has been.

[17:03] >> I just have a couple of questions. I was

[17:05] reading through the proposal and we only

[17:07] got half of the proposal. It's printed

[17:08] every other

[17:09] >> piece of paper page.

[17:12] » Page 10, 12, 14, 16.

[17:15] Um

[17:16] just one of the things that I have

[17:18] actually got several and stuff. Number

[17:20] one

[17:20] it says engineer and install a suitable

[17:23] base for the anchor and tree or drum

[17:25] work for this tree.

[17:26] >> No.

[17:27] >> So, what happens is that an extra

[17:29] expense?

[17:29] >> No, the the drum will be retired. It is

[17:33] >> But, for the base for this tree, is that

[17:34] another expense?

[17:36] That's just part of the deal.

[17:37] >> No, the

[17:39] what they're sending us is the plates,

[17:41] our expense.

[17:42] >> not sending us the

[17:43] Okay.

[17:43] >> They send everything. We will put the

[17:45] plates down to their specs.

[17:47] >> The way I read it is we had to do that.

[17:49] I thought,

[17:50] "Well, who's going to do that?"

[17:51] And all the power's there, all the Cat

[17:53] 5, everything is there.

[17:55] Cat 6, I guess it is now.

[17:57] Power's there.

[17:59] They are sending Cat 6. Oh, they are.

[18:02] Oh, very cool. Very cool.

[18:04] Um

[18:05] And they say that we have to do

[18:06] bulb changes and when when's going to

[18:08] win and who's going to do that?

[18:10] >> That's part of the plan.

[18:11] >> That's part of the

[18:12] They don't know they have to do We have

[18:13] to do that and then we have to send at

[18:15] the end of the day.

[18:15] >> That's correct.

[18:16] If there's issue with the elements

[18:22] » We just do that when we set it up and

[18:23] make sure everything's running okay.

[18:27] They will replace them.

[18:28] >> That's the notes.

[18:29] >> Okay, so we have to do that. So, Baker's

[18:31] got to find

[18:32] five guys to

[18:34] I'm not I'm not saying he shouldn't, I'm

[18:35] just saying whatever it is.

[18:37] >> What he covers is the parts

[18:39] >> has to do the labor

[18:41] All that, okay.

[18:42] Another question I have

[18:43] is uh

[18:45] is uh

[18:48] All the infrastructure's there, you said

[18:50] that the power's there and they're doing the Cat 6. So, we don't

[18:53] have to do worry about that.

[18:54] >> Cat 6 is basically various modules that

[18:56] are linked together.

[18:59] >> Okay, so my my concerns were were

[19:01] that we're going to get into having to

[19:03] do some extra

[19:05] stuff.

[19:06] >> There There's options if you were to

[19:07] expand it.

[19:11] » Right. There's it's around the palm,

[19:12] yeah.

[19:14] Got you.

[19:19] Then

[19:20] So, one more question and then I'll

[19:22] leave the floor to somebody else.

[19:24] Um

[19:25] So, is it Is the tree that's just going

[19:27] to look ugly during the day and it's

[19:29] just going to have the pole through the

[19:30] middle of it, strands hanging down, and

[19:32] then

[19:33] at night it's going to look good?

[19:35] >> It'll have to look better. I It's bright

[19:36] enough to

[19:39] I don't know if you can

[19:41] >> I've seen them forever, you know, the

[19:42] pole with the

[19:44] strands hanging down.

[19:45] I don't know.

[19:46] Yeah, that's just my preference.

[19:47] >> It's just strands of LED

[19:50] at night

[19:51] because it gets dark at

[19:53] So,

[19:54] you know, so

[19:55] >> Okay, that's that's my questions. Thank

[19:56] you. Appreciate it.

[19:58] >> I have one question about the power. I

[20:01] know we've always had issues out there

[20:02] with the power going on and off at the I

[20:04] know we fixed a lot of that. What do

[20:06] they provide you with as far as search

[20:08] protection? This is a lot of lights and

[20:09] a lot of stuff.

[20:11] >> I haven't seen anything about search

[20:13] protection.

[20:18] » Yeah, I mean, that would be

[20:20] It would be

[20:22] a a sad thing to have this installed for

[20:24] 2 days

[20:25] and some power glitch cause this whole

[20:27] Christmas tree full of lights that we're

[20:29] trying to display go out. So,

[20:31] um I would just ask that if we do this,

[20:33] I someone needs to heavily research that

[20:36] to make sure that won't happen.

[20:39] Cuz

[20:40] Um the other thing is on the maintenance

[20:42] part, I they do

[20:44] a whole new display every year, new

[20:47] songs, and new videos stuff.

[20:49] Does that allow any room for us to

[20:51] customize anything? Can we put our own

[20:54] Seminole wishes you have What can we do

[20:56] that?

[20:57] >> That's part of the package. Uh

[20:59] cost

[21:00] is

[21:02] having the programming and the music and

[21:03] the songs and the

[21:24] » So

[21:25] >> Can you do that on a Can you update that

[21:27] on a Not that we would, but can you

[21:29] update it on a daily basis? For

[21:30] instance, when you do Santa Paws night

[21:33] if you could update it, say welcome to

[21:35] Santa Paws night, put a dog on it or something like that

[21:38] to kind of create some

[21:40] stuff like that. Can you do that? Or is

[21:42] it just something once a year they allow

[21:43] you to do?

[21:45] >> Once a year.

[21:46] >> Okay.

[21:50] Oh, got you.

[21:53] I was just curious because that'd be

[21:55] really cool to

[21:56] make that specific to a night,

[21:58] especially for all these people that are

[21:59] spending their time out there.

[22:02] Um and the firework night that has

[22:04] always been done

[22:05] >> [clears throat]

[22:05] >> display some fireworks inside there or

[22:07] something like that. Just curious if we

[22:08] could do that and get our money's worth

[22:10] out of it.

[22:11] >> I would recommend that we have a full

[22:13] council vote before we put your Rudolph

[22:16] karaoke on there.

[22:18] >> Yeah, that's not happening.

[22:21] >> I mean, a lot of them are pushing

[22:23] >> [laughter]

[22:23] >> So, um

[22:25] All right, Corey, let me pick on that.

[22:27] So, I I read that they don't come and

[22:29] put it up. We have to put it We have to

[22:30] assemble it, right?

[22:32] We're confident we can do that.

[22:34] >> That won't be a problem.

[22:35] >> problems. I mean

[22:36] I'm not saying the guys are can't do it

[22:38] that, but they're not professional 60-ft

[22:40] tree assemblers.

[22:41] >> Yeah, um

[22:44] I don't know. I mean, I'm just saying

[22:45] I'm assuming you guys can do it. I was

[22:46] just thinking

[22:47] >> The answer is yes.

[22:48] >> [laughter]

[22:49] >> My guys are so ecstatic to get rid of

[22:53] that bulky tree.

[22:55] >> right?

[22:55] >> Oh my gosh.

[22:56] >> I'm just curious because I think Yeah,

[22:57] that's a that's got to be

[22:59] a job. man.

[23:01] >> Yeah.

[23:02] >> It is. Hey, what was the cost

[23:05] if I wish Sharon was here cuz she

[23:06] probably know from a community

[23:07] development standpoint. What was the

[23:09] cost of that what we had in front of the

[23:11] wellness center all those years?

[23:13] >> In front of you?

[23:14] >> Like the lights, that whole display that

[23:16] >> The The dancing lights?

[23:17] >> Yeah, how much You remember how much

[23:19] that was?

[23:19] >> I don't.

[23:20] >> I was just curious cuz I know it wasn't

[23:22] >> We added to it year after year, so it

[23:24] built

[23:26] many many times over and the same thing

[23:28] is true of the Christmas tree in the

[23:31] ground.

[23:31] >> Yeah.

[23:32] >> Uh we would buy 2-ft sections and some

[23:35] years we'd buy 4 ft and it just kind of

[23:37] grew into what we have now.

[23:39] >> I was just curious in terms of the cost

[23:41] what it related as far as

[23:43] the cost of this one.

[23:44] >> Yeah.

[23:45] >> So

[23:48] » I was just curious. I know I think

[23:49] community development did all that that

[23:51] year, did they not?

[23:52] >> Uh well, again, I think we started with

[23:55] like $16,000

[23:57] and then we we'd buy 2,500

[24:00] at different times.

[24:02] And the same is true of the tree. I

[24:04] think we spent the original

[24:06] 2,000

[24:08] what?

[24:09] 10? 12?

[24:11] 2012, I think the original was 16,000,

[24:14] the initial investment.

[24:16] And then

[24:18] we grew it

[24:19] every year about that same amount.

[24:23] » Okay.

[24:27] » Go ahead, Dan.

[24:28] >> So the um

[24:29] What is the life expectancy of the

[24:31] lights?

[24:32] >> Good question.

[24:34] I haven't seen the initial warranty of the lights

[24:49] was 5 years last

[24:53] The initial warranty was 1 year.

[24:56] You don't have to do that.

[24:59] Okay.

[25:06] » I I

[25:08] Yeah. I'd like I'd like to give you a

[25:10] little more directed

[25:12] answer to kind of quantify how the

[25:15] useful life

[25:16] I think the structure itself is going to

[25:19] be a 20-year

[25:21] duration. But, the strands of the LED

[25:24] lights, what we've experienced in our

[25:26] other displays, uh the LED is much

[25:30] longer lasting than the incandescent.

[25:32] And so, we're probably getting uh maybe

[25:35] 6 or 7 years out of the LED.

[25:38] So, in 6 or 7 years, we would probably

[25:41] be replacing the light strands.

[25:43] Uh

[25:44] and I'm assuming that under our annual

[25:47] thing, that will will be replaced by

[25:50] them.

[25:56] Yeah.

[25:58] I think a lot of that probably has to do

[25:59] with where you are as well as far as

[26:01] environment.

[26:02] And the condition of what happens that

[26:04] year. Obviously, if you have

[26:05] >> Yep.

[26:06] >> tons of

[26:07] rain or snow or what have you, I think

[26:10] that maybe

[26:11] that may have a lot to do with that.

[26:13] Probably can't get a real clear answer,

[26:14] but

[26:15] I mean, for the lights I put in my

[26:17] house, they've been last

[26:19] 2 years, but that's cuz I change them

[26:20] every 2 years it felt like. So, I can't

[26:22] give you an answer on that either, but

[26:24] uh

[26:25] I do like the LEDs.

[26:28] Obviously.

[26:29] So.

[26:31] >> Chris, I'm sorry.

[26:32] Danny. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[26:34] >> Danny, you've had your turn. Hold on.

[26:35] >> want to make you mad.

[26:36] >> I'm just kidding.

[26:37] >> Are there any uh

[26:39] There I'm I'm disappointed that there

[26:41] wasn't a section on the agenda today for

[26:44] the audience to ask us questions about

[26:47] this or ask more questions about this.

[26:49] Um I hope that gets resolved

[26:51] um next time.

[26:53] Because there has been some because of

[26:55] the article in the newspaper, I think

[26:57] spurred some folks um that I've seen

[26:59] online to um

[27:02] to make comments that they weren't happy

[27:04] about this.

[27:05] Um so, I I really do appreciate the spillover effect that you had

[27:11] mentioned

[27:12] where this is going to impact hopefully

[27:18] our um

[27:20] economy.

[27:20] >> Mhm.

[27:21] >> Right? And um

[27:23] not only boost the the sales tax

[27:27] hopefully in in the city of Seminole,

[27:29] but also the morale as well, right? So,

[27:32] I appreciate you saying that. Um but I

[27:34] do however just want to mention again

[27:36] that the the the comment period or

[27:39] comment section, I really felt that

[27:41] needed to be here just in case. I

[27:42] personally haven't heard from anyone um

[27:45] that they were displeased about this or didn't want it. But, I think the

[27:48] article in the paper um mentioned it in on the front page,

[27:54] and I think some folks I think it's real

[27:56] easy to pull out one thing out of our

[27:58] entire budget and have a open discussion

[28:01] about whether or not it's frivolous or

[28:03] whether or not we needed it. But, I

[28:05] think in the context of the spillover

[28:07] effect, that's kind of what's selling me

[28:09] on it is that hopefully it brings more

[28:11] people to Ward 1. Hopefully, it brings

[28:13] more people to the to the city and um

[28:16] has positive impact on our citizens.

[28:19] That's all I have.

[28:20] >> Do you have another question?

[28:21] >> I just have I do, and I'm sorry I didn't

[28:23] mean to cut you off there. I apologize.

[28:25] Um

[28:27] I I just have a question. Where is it

[28:29] stored? How is it stored?

[28:31] Who stores it? I mean, that's those are

[28:33] my questions cuz I you know, you don't

[28:34] have to

[28:35] throw it into a bonfire.

[28:37] It's a lot of money. That's why I'm just

[28:38] >> Yeah. So, we take great lengths to

[28:42] protect the these pieces and

[28:47] if if at all possible, I would prefer to

[28:50] get offline because if I tell you where

[28:52] they're at,

[28:54] that exposes them to destruction.

[28:57] >> Yeah, I don't want to look at that.

[28:58] >> So, we can How about we get offline and

[29:01] I can tell you

[29:02] the big plan of how we plan on putting

[29:04] >> Yeah, I don't want to you know, I don't

[29:06] want to do that for sure. Somebody have

[29:07] a big Christmas tree in the front yard.

[29:08] So,

[29:10] I don't want to do that for sure.

[29:11] So, I just Yeah, I just I was just

[29:13] curious. That's just for my just

[29:15] want to

[29:19] » Do you all have any other questions?

[29:23] Mark's asking me questions cuz he wasn't

[29:25] in our budget talks and didn't hear all

[29:27] that. So, just so you guys are aware,

[29:29] but

[29:33] » Pretty much the first time I'm hearing about it.

[29:39] So, this is replacing the old

[29:41] This is nothing new.

[29:43] This is replacing the old tree. Okay.

[29:47] >> Yes, sir. It It is new. It is new. It's

[29:50] a It's a completely different setup,

[29:52] which, frankly,

[29:55] I don't remember exactly how long it

[29:57] took my crews to erect that

[30:01] big tree,

[30:02] but this is going to alleviate a lot of

[30:05] their issues. We've got the skylift, so

[30:08] that's not the issue.

[30:10] But, yes, it is new and it is a

[30:11] replacement.

[30:15] » Well,

[30:18] It's It's ex- Oh, sorry. I thought you

[30:20] were done.

[30:22] I'm a little bit with you on this.

[30:24] You know, I had one comment on the way

[30:26] down here,

[30:28] which was negative.

[30:31] I don't know. I guess I assumed there

[30:32] must have been an article in the paper

[30:34] today as you were referring to that.

[30:36] You know,

[30:38] I'm all for

[30:40] Snowman Wonderland up there. It's It's

[30:43] asset to the community, for sure.

[30:46] As you said, I'm sure it's probably an

[30:48] economic boost.

[30:50] So.

[30:53] Having just sort of had this, being my

[30:56] first night as a council member.

[30:58] Uh.

[31:02] I guess I just have a procedural

[31:04] question. Um.

[31:06] Can I abstain?

[31:08] >> [laughter]

[31:17] » Point of information.

[31:18] >> Go ahead, Danny.

[31:18] >> So, um, Steve, did you say earlier that

[31:21] the old tree will still be put up

[31:23] though, correct?

[31:24] >> Portion of it. Portion of it, yes. Uh,

[31:27] we're not going to try to to do the the

[31:30] whole thing. And

[31:31] the drum in particular has been

[31:35] damaged in over the many years that we've had it up. So,

[31:40] that for sure is going to be retired,

[31:42] but the tree itself uh

[31:45] we've talked a little bit internally

[31:47] about which pieces could be saved.

[31:50] I think you'll probably end up with

[31:52] maybe 18 ft, somewhere in that range,

[31:56] that would fit in front of the wellness

[31:58] center.

[32:00] Uh, it won't be nearly as spectacular as

[32:02] what it was on the island.

[32:05] Uh,

[32:05] but yes, we're going to try to salvage

[32:07] what we can.

[32:09] >> If there if there is an opportunity, I

[32:12] would like to see maybe it go up in

[32:13] another park.

[32:15] Somewhere if that's possible.

[32:17] Just something to think about. I think

[32:19] it would be nice to see in the municipal

[32:21] park or

[32:22] Chase Park.

[32:24] >> Downtown.

[32:26] Yeah.

[32:27] >> Now, wherever we put it, it needs to be

[32:29] under camera surveillance. Part of what

[32:31] we're talking about doing now is

[32:33] actually having it alarmed on the

[32:35] island, so that when the when someone

[32:38] crosses a certain barrier, especially

[32:40] after the event has shut down, that

[32:44] there's a

[32:45] audible alarm, alarm goes to the police

[32:47] department, and lights come on and

[32:50] flash.

[32:52] >> I didn't even think about that. That's a very sneaky Yeah, you got to do

[32:56] that. So, um I will say if you don't

[32:59] find a place for the drone, that Dale

[33:01] and Marcy and I will put a demitween our

[33:03] yards.

[33:03] >> Oh.

[33:04] >> And we'll put lights on it. So, I'm just

[33:06] kidding.

[33:07] >> [laughter]

[33:08] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[33:10] >> It's very light. It's about a 3/4-in

[33:12] steel.

[33:14] It's Yeah.

[33:15] It's massive.

[33:19] » Mhm.

[33:20] Any other questions you guys have?

[33:24] >> I have one other comment that if we

[33:26] could look into this, I think it would

[33:28] be appropriate

[33:30] to see as much as Neil Craig put into

[33:32] this Snowman Wonderland, I think it

[33:34] would be very

[33:35] honorable to put an in honor of Neil as

[33:38] a purchase of that tree at the bottom of

[33:40] that.

[33:41] >> Cool.

[33:41] >> I think it's just respectable for what

[33:43] he did. Um he was there every night for

[33:45] every year for very long time, as much

[33:47] as his health allowed.

[33:49] So,

[33:50] if you guys could also do that, I think

[33:52] that's just I think it's just

[33:54] worthy to do that for him and his

[33:56] family. So,

[33:57] if that's a possibility, I would like to

[33:58] see that.

[34:00] So.

[34:05] » Great idea. All right.

[34:07] >> Anybody else?

[34:10] >> Okay.

[34:12] Go ahead.

[34:16] » It's going to save you a lot of

[34:17] manpower.

[34:27] » Okay.

[34:28] I'll just need a motion and a second, we

[34:31] can vote.

[34:32] >> Motion to approve?

[34:36] » Second.

[34:38] » Roll call, please. Jay?

[34:41] >> Dana Miller?

[34:42] >> Yes.

[34:43] >> Scott Ross?

[34:44] >> Yes.

[34:45] >> Miss Hanson?

[34:46] >> Yes.

[34:46] >> Mark Childers?

[34:47] >> Yes.

[34:49] >> Jeff Mann?

[34:51] >> Yes.

[34:52] >> Don Greiner?

[34:53] >> Yes.

[34:54] >> Arthur Passos?

[34:56] >> All right. Moving on to item two,

[34:59] consideration and possible action to

[35:01] approve the state bid price of

[35:02] $23,125.72

[35:06] from Great Plains Shawnee for the

[35:08] purchase of a Kubota lawn mower and

[35:10] approved capital improvement project for

[35:12] fiscal year 2026 to 2027.

[35:16] Um

[35:17] I know we had some questions on this

[35:19] online as well, but can you tell us

[35:21] uh I know we had a mower that was either

[35:23] down or not in service, I think, or at

[35:26] least old to the point where we need

[35:29] these mowers. I just wonder

[35:31] if this if you could just kind of share

[35:33] what situation this puts us in. I mean,

[35:35] obviously it puts us in a better

[35:36] situation, but does it replace an old

[35:37] one? Does it replace a couple that were

[35:40] in terrible condition? What are we What

[35:42] are we doing with this one?

[35:44] >> Yeah. So, obviously we we roll through

[35:47] these mowers. I mean, we

[35:50] Yeah, we put the work on them.

[35:52] Uh there are two mowers. One we expect

[35:56] it's not

[35:58] it's okay, but it's not great. Our

[36:00] expectation is to move that to the lake,

[36:03] and this one will replace the park.

[36:05] >> Okay.

[36:06] >> Yeah.

[36:08] And he does mow a lot of the lake.

[36:10] >> Yes.

[36:11] >> If you've not been out there, there's a

[36:12] lot to mow out there.

[36:14] So.

[36:16] >> Motion to approve?

[36:17] >> Second.

[36:18] >> Roll call, please. Jay?

[36:20] >> Dana Miller?

[36:21] >> Yes.

[36:22] >> Scott Ross?

[36:22] >> Yes.

[36:23] >> Miss Hanson?

[36:24] >> Yes.

[36:24] >> Mark Childers?

[36:25] >> Yes.

[36:26] >> Jeff Mann?

[36:27] >> Yes.

[36:27] >> Don Greiner?

[36:28] >> Yes.

[36:28] >> Arthur Passos?

[36:29] >> Okay. And that's all the items we have

[36:31] for the Seminole City Council. We still

[36:32] have one more meeting, but I wanted to

[36:33] do that one first just to get Mark

[36:35] appointed and and then here. So, um I

[36:38] need a motion for adjournment for the

[36:39] Seminole City Council portion.

[36:41] >> Motion to adjourn.

[36:42] >> All in favor?

[36:43] >> Aye.

[36:44] >> Any opposed, like sign. Okay.

[36:47] We're going to move on to the Seminole

[36:49] Municipal Authority.

[36:50] And can we have a roll call for this

[36:52] one, please, Jackie?

[36:53] >> Dana Miller?

[36:54] >> Here.

[36:55] >> Larry Church?

[36:56] >> Present.

[36:57] >> Here.

[36:58] >> Robert Cramer?

[36:58] >> Here.

[36:59] >> Mark Shaver?

[37:00] >> Here.

[37:01] >> Jeff Hance?

[37:01] >> Here.

[37:02] >> Scott Ross?

[37:03] >> Here.

[37:03] >> Ray Conner?

[37:04] >> Corey Craig?

[37:05] >> Here.

[37:06] >> Okay. Under item or approvals and

[37:08] acceptances under bids, consideration

[37:11] and possible action to approve the bid

[37:13] of $3,708,930

[37:17] from Mock Energy LLC for the

[37:19] Presidential Disaster Relief Water

[37:21] System Improvements Project.

[37:24] Mr. Steve, can you elaborate on this so

[37:26] >> Sure. Yeah, let me bring you back up to

[37:28] speed. So,

[37:30] uh

[37:31] every year we we get to sit down with

[37:33] our congressional staff and and

[37:36] Stephanie Bice in particular has been

[37:38] extremely helpful for us and

[37:41] uh

[37:41] the question that they asked us maybe 2

[37:44] years ago was what are the

[37:46] biggest things facing you outside of our

[37:48] sewer plant.

[37:50] One of them was our 16-in huge water

[37:53] main that spans from Walmart to

[37:56] essentially the hospital and even beyond

[37:59] that. But, that was the biggest piece.

[38:02] I don't know how many calls we make. You

[38:04] probably remember a bunch, uh Scott,

[38:08] that that

[38:09] when that line ruptures, it's a problem.

[38:12] Uh big problem. And it often can take

[38:15] out full neighborhoods that we've got.

[38:17] Um

[38:18] so,

[38:20] uh we asked them and they they ended up

[38:22] making an appropriation. So, this is

[38:24] grant dollars that we're we're receiving

[38:27] from the federal government. And the

[38:29] plan is to replace that 16-in main from

[38:32] Walmart to the hospital.

[38:35] If if we can stretch it, it may go

[38:38] beyond that. Mock Energy

[38:41] we had a really nice experience with

[38:43] them and when they tied into our brand

[38:45] new water tower.

[38:47] They're not responsible for building the

[38:49] water tower, but they are responsible

[38:52] for extending the line to the water

[38:55] tower.

[38:56] And we we had really good

[38:59] experience with them. So,

[39:02] when we had 12 was it 12 bids?

[39:05] 12 bidders bid this project. We were

[39:08] shocked and so were the engineers. It

[39:12] looks like the companies are beginning

[39:14] to become a little more hungry. Now that

[39:16] the ARPA money is kind of drying up. So,

[39:20] we had 12 bids. This this is the low bid

[39:23] and what and they won it. And we were

[39:25] really excited that they did. So,

[39:28] we would recommend that you approve

[39:29] this.

[39:32] » I'll approve it.

[39:33] >> Second.

[39:35] >> Roll call, please, Jay.

[39:37] >> Ann Norris?

[39:38] >> Yes.

[39:39] >> Miss Hanson?

[39:40] >> Yes.

[39:40] >> Tom Framingham?

[39:41] >> Yes.

[39:41] >> Mark Childers?

[39:42] >> Yes.

[39:43] >> Jeff Nance?

[39:44] >> Yes, sir.

[39:44] >> Scott Bronson?

[39:45] >> Yes.

[39:45] >> Mark Fredrick?

[39:46] >> Yes.

[39:48] >> Okay. Um And with no items further on

[39:52] the agenda,

[39:53] first off, thank you for everybody

[39:55] coming. We appreciate it. Um your

[39:57] presence says a lot and we we know that

[40:00] you care and I I appreciate that. So,

[40:03] but with no other items, I'll entertain

[40:05] a motion for adjournment.

[40:06] >> So moved.

[40:07] >> All All in favor?

[40:09] >> Aye.

[40:10] >> Any opposed, like sign.

[40:11] Okay. Thanks everybody.

Special City Council Meeting July 30th 2026

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