[0:04] thank you

[0:08] called to order the meeting of the town

[0:11] of Sebastopol

[0:13] Board of Supervisors for Monday February

[0:16] 24th

[0:17] at seven o'clock

[0:20] I'll ask that you rise and join with me

[0:22] in the Pledge of Allegiance

[0:26] I pledge allegianism

[0:40] thank you

[0:43] roll call to establish a foreign

[0:46] supervisor Weidman here supervisor Tice

[0:49] chairman zipper here supervisor wolfel

[0:52] here supervisor stavinus here

[0:56] as is customary we do start with the

[0:59] meetings of the people that are

[1:03] with us tonight

[1:05] let me followed around with lady in the

[1:08] video

[1:09] start down on the end Linda you want to

[1:12] start Linda White clerk treasurer

[1:15] dick Weidman board supervisor Chuck Tice

[1:18] supervisor Leo zipper of the Town chair

[1:21] Dan waffle supervisor John stavnus

[1:23] supervisor

[1:25] good Dan mathi and Gordon Road

[1:32] fire chief

[1:35] um

[1:41] Joan Jeske the entire jacksonport town

[1:44] resident

[1:46] Victoria Sarah Sebastopol resident

[1:49] okay and the bearded wonder is

[2:01] no that's a growth in the last couple of

[2:03] months

[2:07] it's great it looks good well thanks for

[2:10] being here the agenda has been properly

[2:12] noticed it has

[2:16] stopped second

[2:23] we will skip around a little bit we're

[2:25] going to go to the Special Report first

[2:28] with fire

[2:30] annual fire uh report and then we'll go

[2:33] down to the resolution on the mutual Aid

[2:35] box alarm system agreement

[2:38] but everything else should follow in

[2:40] order

[2:43] so with those notes all in favor signify

[2:45] for saying aye all right those

[2:48] and it's carried we're a little ahead of

[2:50] schedule but

[2:53] Chief Tim and assistant chief Tim what

[2:56] is this you want to get a job if your

[2:57] name is Tim then

[3:01] all right it's all yours go right ahead

[3:03] all right this evening we're going to

[3:05] just present the annual fire report

[3:08] um

[3:09] for Sebastopol I'd like to begin with

[3:11] our mission statement which is

[3:13] the sturge Bay Fire Department's mission

[3:15] is to protect life and property and fire

[3:18] medical and environmental emergencies

[3:21] for our community Through public

[3:23] education code management and incident

[3:26] response

[3:29] uh the next slide really is just a list

[3:31] of our equipment but uh

[3:33] like to call attention to a couple

[3:36] specialty vehicles and those are listed

[3:39] on the bottom and that's a Special

[3:40] Response trailer which has all kinds of

[3:44] specialty equipment in there mostly for

[3:46] trench rescue

[3:48] um for Decon should there be some sort

[3:51] of hazardous materials spill uh we have

[3:54] Jacks and air jacks and Shoring and all

[3:57] kinds of things in that particular um

[4:00] in that trailer you also have a small

[4:04] boat a 12 foot

[4:07] inflatable boat and then our Marine One

[4:10] boat which is

[4:13] yeah okay

[4:16] um and that's the book that we share

[4:17] with the police department the police

[4:20] use it for patrol and the fire uses it

[4:23] for rescues so what we do and the reason

[4:26] I want to bring these the two bullets up

[4:28] is what we do in Sebastopol or for for

[4:30] response in this area is that we take

[4:34] both one is by Landon and the other one

[4:36] by sea because of the different weather

[4:39] conditions and we don't know what the

[4:41] lake is going to be like or the Bayside

[4:43] Bay is going to be like whether the

[4:45] people that need rescue are in really

[4:47] shallow water or not we will take the

[4:50] small inflatable rigid haul inflatable

[4:54] by land to the scene and then our big

[4:57] bowl leaves that's in the wall water all

[5:01] the time and that leaves directly from

[5:03] the dock and it's pretty interesting

[5:05] that's a fast really fast boat and

[5:08] that'll beat us most of the time to the

[5:11] scene over the truck in Richmond Hill

[5:15] where's ellen.com that one is docked on

[5:18] by the DNR office so it's a close

[5:21] response for the West Side guys to run

[5:23] down there

[5:25] it means he'll break the speed limit

[5:27] well if it's an emergency we're allowed

[5:30] to but she's a long trip back especially

[5:32] if we're coming through the canal

[5:35] so our uh

[5:38] and probably I know we've talked about

[5:40] this before but for the people watching

[5:42] out there oftentimes we get to question

[5:44] why do we need all this ice rescue

[5:47] equipment why do we need all the water

[5:50] rescue equipment when we have three

[5:52] Coast Guard detachments in Sturgeon Bay

[5:56] in the quick answer to that is that the

[6:00] Coast Guard excuse me takes a minimum of

[6:02] 20 minutes to respond out of their

[6:05] station it's just the way it is it's not

[6:08] because they're not ready they have to

[6:10] get approval from Coast Guard Milwaukee

[6:12] and sometimes from Cleveland before they

[6:14] can respond

[6:16] so if you're the person in the water in

[6:18] 20 minutes oftentimes it's going to be

[6:20] too long

[6:23] this is just a list of our personnel and

[6:25] one thing I want to note on this slide

[6:27] is that we do have four of our part-time

[6:31] Personnel

[6:33] um that live in sebastopoliters fast

[6:35] full-time residents uh mentioned it a

[6:39] few years ago where we had passed an

[6:42] ordinance in the city allowing part-time

[6:44] firefighters to live either in

[6:46] Sebastopol or Thomas Sturgeon Bay which

[6:48] are the two townships we contract with

[6:51] in act act 20 this year in the

[6:55] governor's budget it was included in no

[6:58] residency law for municipalities

[7:02] however there was a we could put on a

[7:06] 15-mile limit for firefighters and

[7:09] police officers so the city's in the

[7:11] process of doing that but all other

[7:14] residency requirements and

[7:16] municipalities has been lifted

[7:18] and of course the police and fire and

[7:21] ambulance personality it's important to

[7:24] have a quick response

[7:28] total number of calls for a town of uh

[7:30] for the fire department received was

[7:33] 1166.

[7:35] number of calls in Sebastopol was 59 I

[7:39] think down one from last year is that

[7:41] correct yep uh we had 57 fire calls or

[7:47] what's classified in the National

[7:49] reporting system as fire calls and two

[7:52] emergency medical calls that we provided

[7:55] back up um as requested by the ambulance

[7:59] average response time and Thomas

[8:01] Sebastopol was 9 minutes and 42 seconds

[8:06] for emergency calls it was 8 minutes and

[8:09] 58 seconds in non-emergency 10 minutes

[8:13] and 27 seconds

[8:15] sometimes those two sometimes the

[8:18] non-emergent calls have a better

[8:21] response time than an emergency it just

[8:23] depends where they are in any given year

[8:25] throughout your Township

[8:28] told staff hours their total staff for

[8:30] all calls uh was 346 staff members

[8:35] total staff hours for

[8:37] 311.22 dollars

[8:40] we provided 140 inspections from 92

[8:44] violations

[8:46] and spent 108 hours

[8:50] inspecting you sure we put on public

[8:53] safety education programs uh Sebastopol

[8:56] Elementary School is our big one but we

[9:00] also um

[9:01] career day at mwtc which includes all

[9:04] the high schools

[9:06] um and then we got just a number of

[9:09] places plus

[9:10] tours where the schools come in to see

[9:13] us

[9:15] this is the incident type broken down by

[9:18] group

[9:21] vehicle or heavy heavy equipment fire

[9:24] there was only one of those structured

[9:26] fires we had Fords basketball last year

[9:29] and I don't usually bring the previous

[9:31] year's report and I forgot I'm not sure

[9:34] how many structure fires that were the

[9:36] year before

[9:37] grass outside fires we had six ice and

[9:41] water rescues with five that number is

[9:45] going up

[9:46] um

[9:47] not just in Sebastopol but sturgey Bay

[9:50] and in every place else we respond it

[9:54] seems like there's more and more people

[9:55] using the jet skis The Kayaks

[9:59] types of things open the ice of course

[10:02] service calls one animal problem one I

[10:06] do not think that was a bear I'm not

[10:08] sure what the animal was carbon monoxide

[10:10] incident three

[10:12] two gas leaks

[10:15] threat to burn

[10:18] um

[10:20] that was an investigation on a person

[10:22] who's threatening to burn something down

[10:27] two fire investigations one lockout

[10:31] makes a residential Echo

[10:33] assist police

[10:36] and then smoker odor scares

[10:41] a number of dispatching canceled calls

[10:44] were one

[10:46] and then the detector activation will

[10:49] fire in other words the false alarms we

[10:51] had 12 of the listen in the Thomas

[10:54] Sebastopol now

[10:56] none of those were

[11:00] I shouldn't say none of them were but

[11:02] the most of them were just honest

[11:05] detector activations with no fire either

[11:08] a dirty smoke detector

[11:10] CO detector that went off for no reason

[11:14] but a couple of them were from hotels

[11:16] motels where people kids usually pull

[11:20] the whole station

[11:22] so that wasn't today

[11:25] are we getting a lot of repeats

[11:29] going to the same uh our biggest one

[11:32] there is an inn on Bayshore Drive that

[11:34] has a fair number of smoke detectors

[11:38] that are

[11:39] aging and they are replacing them as

[11:42] they go so they have stock cloud and new

[11:45] ones there in the league of faulty when

[11:46] they put it in two places have you

[11:49] instigated or instituted any kind of a

[11:52] key chart or answering those you know we

[11:55] have not it hasn't been a big um

[11:59] uh

[12:01] I don't know it hasn't been a big cause

[12:03] to us and if somebody was you know if

[12:06] they weren't making an effort to change

[12:08] all those detectors we would certainly

[12:10] look at something but we haven't run in

[12:13] regardless of that so maybe thanks sir

[12:15] when you get one of those alarm calls or

[12:18] equipment would normally go to a scene

[12:20] all stations would respond

[12:23] um and then we would call a shift of our

[12:26] 10 people in which would be five

[12:29] firefighters besides and they would

[12:31] start and Route as well so regulatable

[12:34] stations would go

[12:36] but a lot of it goes on the information

[12:38] that we're given at dispatch you know

[12:42] it's a lot of times it's a smoke

[12:43] detector we don't see any smoke or fire

[12:45] we do end services for all the hotels

[12:47] motels tell them you know what we want

[12:51] them to do when they're when the alarm

[12:52] sounds so we get some good information

[12:55] if we get information that says

[12:57] obviously they smell smoke that would be

[13:00] an alcohol for all off-duty health and

[13:03] every PC is working you have

[13:05] so again we do a lot of it depends on

[13:08] all of them but of course alarm false

[13:12] alarms

[13:17] well the four guys on duty is you know

[13:19] it's really just the the cost of the gas

[13:21] and going the Five Guys that will call

[13:23] in certainly is a cost Factor but

[13:27] um again I don't see any big pattern

[13:30] like it's not like tenables 12 came from

[13:33] one place you know I think the most that

[13:36] hotel that is maybe four or something so

[13:38] the normal response is a engine six

[13:42] or uh do you have another one that would

[13:44] we have uh unit six unit eight and then

[13:48] uh the two tankers would be coming with

[13:50] the part-time guys for four units would

[13:52] be responding to that alarm clock

[13:55] I'm sorry very good job

[13:57] well

[13:58] it happens to be the resort you have on

[14:01] the North End of wooden Drive typically

[14:03] we'll call in two shifts and get more

[14:06] guys going just because of the the time

[14:08] that it takes to go up there

[14:11] all right

[14:13] uh this one's an interesting thing that

[14:16] uh

[14:17] I don't know the media loves it I guess

[14:19] but uh

[14:20] most common day to have a fire call was

[14:24] Friday and Saturdays this year that was

[14:26] tied

[14:28] um

[14:28] I think in the city it was uh

[14:32] Saturday at 2 A.M

[14:34] um it's fast Falls Friday or Saturday

[14:38] and the most common hour was three

[14:41] o'clock in the afternoon

[14:44] better than the 2 A.M in the city in

[14:47] that bar closing yeah

[14:49] that has a lot to do with it

[14:52] foreign

[14:56] incidents were 311.

[14:59] I think we went through this already

[15:02] these are just a couple pictures that I

[15:05] want to point out at the couple

[15:07] interesting things these were in

[15:09] Sebastopol structure fires so this one

[15:12] was in a small storage room and what I

[15:15] wanted to point out for the public here

[15:17] is that they look at this door and you

[15:18] can see that burn

[15:20] demarcation right there this bathroom

[15:22] door was closed it's hard to see by the

[15:25] photos but that's just a holla core door

[15:27] that burns through relatively quick but

[15:30] that bedroom or that bathroom right

[15:32] across from the room that was burning

[15:34] was hardly touched because of that

[15:36] Hollow core door being closed the rest

[15:39] of the apartment cover coming this way

[15:41] all the way down was as black as you see

[15:44] everything else along here so my point

[15:47] is anytime you can keep doors closed

[15:51] um you should do that we tell people to

[15:53] keep bedroom doors closed and any door

[15:55] they can close because even if it is a

[15:57] hollow core door it'll really slow down

[15:59] the spread of fire and in this case it

[16:02] was just remarkable

[16:05] way on the other end of the department

[16:07] the curtains the light fixtures

[16:09] everything we're just all melted down

[16:11] from the heat because North doors were

[16:15] closed you can see all that fire exited

[16:18] all

[16:19] this was part of our investigation

[16:21] that's what the room looked like

[16:23] initially

[16:24] and then once we clean it out take a

[16:26] right down to the floor piece by piece

[16:28] and then reconstruct the room to

[16:31] determine the cause

[16:35] this one was on South Cave Point Drive

[16:38] and I bring this one forward because I

[16:41] think a lot of people have done what was

[16:44] inadvertently done in this house this

[16:47] was a remodeled job

[16:49] and part of the house was remodeled and

[16:52] the

[16:54] can lights like you have under there

[16:58] um

[16:59] the new ones are thermally protected so

[17:02] you can insulate over them

[17:04] the old part of the house was not

[17:06] remodeled and had can lights from the

[17:08] 70s in there prior to the thermal

[17:11] protection

[17:12] when they remodeled they had the

[17:14] insulators come in and re-insulate the

[17:16] whole house the result was that they

[17:18] covered up this can light right here

[17:22] um or towards the ears of the house

[17:24] in the bathroom

[17:27] he was in a bathroom and that light was

[17:29] left on for an extended period of time

[17:31] in November through December and started

[17:35] this particular house fire I think about

[17:37] 160 thousand dollars worth of damage

[17:40] Flames coming out of the attic when the

[17:42] call was calling and so

[17:46] you know the blown in insulation is

[17:48] great stuff just make sure it's done

[17:50] correctly and not blown against uh

[17:53] light fixtures that get hot

[17:56] and that's it if there's any questions

[17:58] on a report or anything required

[18:02] I do know that you uh

[18:04] you do twice a year inspection on our

[18:09] license beverage establishments

[18:12] correct do you have any kind of a

[18:16] report as far as how many of those you

[18:20] I do not have that with me unless broken

[18:22] down I don't know how many lessons

[18:26] 14 license we do each of those

[18:30] make sure we get those done by May or so

[18:34] and then I usually send Linda a notice

[18:37] if there's a particular issue with any

[18:40] of those horse and facilities and we've

[18:42] had that one problem one

[18:44] um

[18:45] been ongoing and

[18:47] Sometimes some of these places are um I

[18:51] don't want to pick on any one place but

[18:52] you get them cleaned up and

[18:56] you know six months or a year later they

[18:58] have a tendency to go back to that same

[19:00] waste

[19:01] and we try to keep our animal on the

[19:04] best we can Leo can I ask them a

[19:07] question please thank you sir hello how

[19:10] do you determine if they're thermally

[19:12] insulated these cannons or we have some

[19:14] that are 23 years old on their house the

[19:17] light fixture should be taped

[19:19] that is thermal insulated otherwise

[19:22] you'll see a sensor up in the light that

[19:26] shuts it down should it get too hot

[19:27] should be labeled it should be labeled

[19:30] right up on the top or sometime this is

[19:33] on the side of the white pitch yeah

[19:34] absolutely

[19:38] okay are there any other questions sure

[19:41] I mean if there's anything in the fire

[19:42] department can do in helping clean up

[19:46] some of the neighborhoods we've got a

[19:48] host that's been burned off for several

[19:51] years now

[19:52] and the lawn and the yard is a filthy

[19:56] mess and is there anything in the player

[19:59] Department regulations and that that

[20:00] would help there is if we can determine

[20:03] that it is a fire hazard or a health

[20:07] hazard we can go to the health officer

[20:09] but if it's fire hazard I think we had a

[20:13] barn or a small shed

[20:15] consult Fox Lake Road wasn't it

[20:18] um that I wrote the owner of the letter

[20:20] and

[20:21] uh blow the letter and they ended up

[20:26] tearing it down so I'd be more than

[20:27] happy to look at it for you if you'd

[20:29] like get together sure give me a call

[20:31] and we'll take a look maybe one of the

[20:33] snow melts a little more and get a

[20:35] better view of it that way

[20:39] the snow doesn't melt okay no other

[20:42] questions let's go down to the agenda

[20:45] item

[20:46] would be resolution in 2014 0-1

[20:51] which is a mutual Aid box alarm

[20:54] system agreement

[20:57] uh

[21:00] it indicates that we're going to do this

[21:03] with our neighboring states as well

[21:09] so we'll uh why don't you explain it to

[21:11] us and then we'll act on it after you

[21:13] okay tell us what it's all about

[21:16] I won't go into all the uh

[21:19] intricate details of it but as you may

[21:22] be aware of all the fire departments and

[21:25] during Kiwani County have had a signed

[21:28] Mutual Aid agreement for many years

[21:31] um a number of years ago they came out

[21:33] with the Mavis system uh Mutual Aid box

[21:37] alarm system agreement and that really

[21:40] was the result of 9 11 Hurricane Katrina

[21:43] and some bigger disasters across the

[21:46] country and where it became popular in

[21:49] Wisconsin was down around the borders

[21:51] Kenosha in those areas where

[21:54] oftentimes they needed specialty

[21:56] requests or specially Mutual aid from

[21:59] across the border and that made things

[22:01] even more complicated so they came out

[22:03] with this Mavis system

[22:05] the state has adopted it by Statute and

[22:10] the importance as I see of it is that

[22:13] should or when the big one hits Door

[22:16] County and we don't have enough

[22:19] Resources with indoor or even Kiwani

[22:22] County to either handle it immediately

[22:25] or if it's a sustained incident such as

[22:27] a major tornado would be we can call

[22:31] upon Mutual aid from wherever

[22:34] um and get it free as long as we follow

[22:37] the protocols on doing that and that's

[22:40] huge uh because if we had to call in the

[22:43] Green Bay and ashlock or even Milwaukee

[22:46] for something the cost of that would be

[22:48] astronomical

[22:50] so really it's a Statewide Mutual Aid

[22:53] there's no charge for labor no charge

[22:56] for equipment along with that is a box

[23:00] card system you've probably seen or

[23:02] watched movies where they'll call for an

[23:05] acquiry department will call for a third

[23:07] alarm or a fourth alarm or a Fifth Alarm

[23:09] and the county will have the fire

[23:12] departments in the county will develop

[23:13] that card system

[23:15] so that we can call in the dispatch and

[23:18] remove preview terms if we call a box alarm number two

[23:23] from Sturgeon Bay of say somebody else

[23:26] is calling it from Sturgeon Bay that box

[23:29] alarm number two will say this is what

[23:31] they want and it dictates

[23:34] what's what's going to respond the most

[23:37] recent use of the state's Mutual Aid

[23:40] System was in the Pulaski fire a year or

[23:44] two ago when like half the downtown burn

[23:46] those Mutual Aid System Green Bay's been

[23:49] using it for a couple of years they were

[23:51] part of that Pulaski fire

[23:54] interestingly enough Green Bay actually

[23:57] calls for the mutual aid from the

[24:00] surrounding areas more than the

[24:02] surrounding areas of

[24:03] from Green Bay and that's because Green

[24:07] Bay is kind of downsized and don't have

[24:09] as many engine companies at a station so

[24:12] when they have a large fire they have to

[24:14] move more of their stations in towards

[24:17] that fire which leaves the outline

[24:19] stations empty through this system

[24:22] through the box cart alarm system Green

[24:25] Bay calls for box alarm Howard or you

[24:28] know one of those townships moves in so

[24:31] you know that's that's kind of all of

[24:33] our operational stuff and tactical stuff

[24:36] the big deal here is to ensure that we

[24:40] can get Mutual Aid free and that's

[24:42] really the reason for the resolution

[24:45] we are one of the last there's four

[24:48] counties left in the state that have not

[24:50] signed on to it

[24:52] um the other good part is we can deny or

[24:56] turn down a request

[24:58] say we have stuff going on here you know

[25:01] the tornado hits several counties or

[25:03] whatever and they call sturge Bay or or

[25:05] whomever bug or for help if we're all

[25:09] busy we can turn that down and then they

[25:12] just move to the next card to the next

[25:14] location but we've been on Kiwanis for

[25:17] about a year now

[25:18] if they have fires then we would move up

[25:21] to a home or a castle wherever they

[25:23] would need us

[25:26] I read through the agreement and I find

[25:29] that

[25:31] it was important for Illinois and

[25:34] Wisconsin counties

[25:36] or units to coordinate the mutual effort

[25:39] I thought we bordered also on Minnesota

[25:42] Iowa and Michigan

[25:44] but there's nothing to mention that in

[25:47] here

[25:49] there is not and those states are moving

[25:52] into the Mavis as well Wisconsin does

[25:54] subject a part of anything now I don't

[25:57] know how much of them or how much they

[25:59] are I know Wisconsin has an agreement

[26:02] with Minnesota for forest fires because

[26:06] we don't have any air support in the

[26:08] state of Wisconsin they all come out of

[26:09] Minnesota when there's a course there I

[26:12] have had our City attorney Randy Nesbitt

[26:16] reviewed the contract in the agreement

[26:18] and he has approved it as far as the

[26:22] city goes

[26:24] and it's Randy here attorney as well so

[26:27] don't pay them to look at it they're

[26:29] weird

[26:30] as I read through this it sounds like

[26:34] should sturgeon baby called out to say

[26:37] Green Bay your first obligation would be

[26:41] to staff their Firehouse while their

[26:43] people are out doing fighting the fire

[26:45] or taking care of the situation

[26:48] but that could change that can change

[26:51] yeah so just like Mutual Aid works now

[26:53] sometimes

[26:55] um you know if we come up here we'll

[26:57] have Southern door coming to our West

[26:58] Side Station and cover that for us

[27:01] um but when we call each later or

[27:03] somebody else calls us from Mutual Aid

[27:05] and we may be fighting fires maybe maybe

[27:08] hauling water they may need us for our

[27:11] confined space stuff wherever they need

[27:14] us whatever they need but but the whole

[27:17] idea of his of it is not to leave any

[27:20] Community there and oftentimes that

[27:23] happens with mutually mutilate is called

[27:26] and everybody comes running they kind of

[27:28] forget about

[27:30] covering their own area so the call from

[27:33] another

[27:35] Department

[27:36] requesting a specific engine the

[27:39] determination is up to you

[27:41] as to whether or not you're going to

[27:43] allow that to happen correct

[27:45] as long as we're not busy we'll go and

[27:48] if they request for example uh two

[27:52] engines and two tankers from Sturgeon

[27:54] Bay we'll send them but now that leaves

[27:57] us

[27:58] really sharp so that's then when we

[28:01] would call our boxed alarm in the

[28:03] dispatch and they would have another

[28:04] department move up in the Sturgeon Bay

[28:07] the agreement also went on to say should

[28:09] we need that equipment back home you

[28:11] have the right to bring it back home too

[28:13] correct So

[28:14] eventually the guy in Key West does not

[28:17] get any fire protection

[28:22] it really is a good deal for us

[28:26] you know we the reason we haven't joined

[28:29] this earlier is because we looked at

[28:31] Door County you know a few years ago and

[28:33] said

[28:35] you know we can't pull from the East we

[28:37] can't pull from the West we really have

[28:39] a good system going

[28:41] um do we really need to do this

[28:44] but when it became clear that we don't

[28:48] do it we will be billed for outside

[28:49] Services that's when we decided just last week or the week before if we

[28:56] have any other concerns or questions

[28:58] comments

[29:00] an entertaining motion then to approve

[29:02] resolution in 2014 to improve the

[29:06] resolution number

[29:09] 2014-01 TD I'll second that

[29:13] motion made in the second outside of a

[29:16] typographical on page two

[29:21] no further discussion all in favor say

[29:23] aye aye all right all right and it is

[29:25] caring

[29:27] we thank you for your time and thank you

[29:29] I'll show you

[29:32] the information

[29:35] thanks for coming

[29:45] yeah

[29:46] maybe

[29:47] yeah okay

[29:52] are you going to have a fish in the

[29:55] Sturgeon Bay deal again this year yes

[29:58] they are am I gonna personally know

[30:02] that turned out not to be it that was

[30:05] the first slide that turned out to be a

[30:08] non-for-profit uh or deal

[30:11] I think everybody was well pleased with

[30:13] it they thought it was a good deal

[30:15] yeah

[30:19] I have some ideas we missed your car

[30:22] being nice this past weekend yeah you

[30:26] see a lot of them are destroyed already

[30:27] melted

[30:35] thank you all right thanks guys

[30:39] okay let's back up a little bit uh

[30:41] number four on the agenda would be

[30:43] public participation do we have

[30:45] anyone in the public that would like to

[30:47] make a statement now

[30:57] program but I can't wait until you reach

[30:59] that on your agenda we'll call on you

[31:02] then okay

[31:03] anyone else Joe

[31:06] Joan Jeske recently retired principal

[31:08] for example schools I'm making my rounds

[31:11] around to the town boards and door in

[31:13] Kiwani County because I'm seriously

[31:16] considering throwing my hat in the ring

[31:18] for the open First Assembly seat for

[31:20] Gary buys a seat so I'm getting to know

[31:23] the local Town boards my wife used to

[31:25] serve up in the town board in

[31:27] jacksonport and this is where real

[31:30] legislation and accountability happens

[31:33] so I want to thank you for the work that

[31:35] you do and hopefully if I should be

[31:37] fortunate to work for you someday that

[31:39] we will stay in close communication

[31:41] thank you thank you thank you and you're

[31:44] welcome to stay all we go till about

[31:46] midnight I have been to many meetings

[31:49] till midnight

[31:51] yes oh yeah that's right

[31:53] okay anyone else got a comment from some

[31:56] of our constituents

[31:58] that time again in the year about snow

[32:02] plows versus mailboxes

[32:04] the mailbox loses we've got a few in the

[32:07] neighborhood Who insist that the snow

[32:10] plow has actually hit the mailbox and

[32:13] the mailbox has been put up according to

[32:16] regulations that the highway department

[32:18] supplied them

[32:20] and they're getting a little upset that

[32:22] they have to keep replacing these

[32:24] mailboxes

[32:26] I don't know we're talking to the flow

[32:28] operators or the Highway Department

[32:31] administrator is going to do any good

[32:33] some people already feel that they open

[32:36] their mouths and now this is retaliation

[32:38] so

[32:40] you know they can't put a claim in

[32:42] though right the press the process is

[32:45] that you call the highway department

[32:48] and give your name and address

[32:52] and what kind of mailbox it was

[32:56] and what kind of damage is there and

[32:59] they do have one of their supervisors

[33:00] come out and take a look

[33:02] and he does an assessment and then it

[33:04] comes back to the commissioner for

[33:05] approval

[33:06] either on replacement or else it goes to

[33:09] the committee the highway committee for

[33:11] the eventual

[33:13] replacement so if we're just going to

[33:15] talk about it and not report it that's

[33:18] one thing but

[33:19] they have been pretty good as far as

[33:21] going back out

[33:22] and

[33:24] actually putting up new ones

[33:29] okay

[33:34] yes sir

[33:35] they use the criteria

[33:39] for a state highway to set your

[33:41] mailboxes now it does that

[33:44] also applied to Tower Loans

[33:49] the setting of the mailboxes

[33:52] are an agreement between the postal

[33:56] Department

[33:57] and the transportation whether it be

[34:00] County State

[34:03] or I don't know I don't know if we have

[34:06] any but we would use the same right

[34:09] there a state highway has wider roads

[34:12] and wider shoulders

[34:15] your town highways don't have that

[34:18] but if they use that when they judge

[34:21] whether that mailbox is set legal or

[34:24] illegal right

[34:26] I would guess that they do yes yeah but

[34:29] how can that be

[34:31] the information I've seen I don't

[34:33] believe they that it's the same

[34:36] the information I have obtained

[34:40] specifies the distance from the center

[34:42] of the road to the mailbox

[34:45] and it specifies the height of the

[34:47] mailbox from the road surface to where

[34:50] the door opens so uh from the center of

[34:55] the road then you got a distance from

[34:57] off of the blacktop to the shoulder

[35:01] I've only seen one regulation on that

[35:04] and that's for State highways

[35:07] I I've seen the drawing

[35:11] do you indicate what what needs to be

[35:14] and it has to be

[35:16] recollecting I think 18 inches away from

[35:19] the edge of the road

[35:21] the travel portion of that road

[35:24] 42 inches

[35:25] above the ground

[35:28] and whatever the other regulation that

[35:31] has to be something that's going to be

[35:33] easily

[35:35] removed or if it's hit by a car

[35:39] or something else other than Nepal

[35:42] that it is going to bend or it is going

[35:44] to

[35:45] break

[35:47] you cannot construct anything in

[35:49] concrete and put it out there because

[35:52] those have already been removed we have

[35:54] some

[35:55] in our town that had to be relocated the

[35:58] very same way so

[36:00] I can look into it but I don't have an

[36:03] answer for you tonight

[36:08] correct the county of door plows the

[36:11] roads for the town

[36:15] manner I did I can't hear you is it is

[36:18] this not really more of a county matter

[36:20] than a town matter at this point

[36:24] well though if we can provide the

[36:26] information and let them know what the

[36:28] problem is we can do that

[36:30] thank you

[36:32] any other coming

[36:36] all right I'll check into it I'm on the

[36:38] highway committee for the county it's

[36:40] like

[36:42] to be able to get an answer

[36:48] okay no other public participation let's

[36:51] move on to

[36:55] number seven the approval of the minutes

[36:58] January 20th

[37:01] make a motion to approve the minutes

[37:02] January 20th 2014.

[37:06] second done

[37:09] any questions comments Corrections

[37:13] we already done all in favor say aye opposed

[37:18] carried financial report

[37:22] for January 2014 budget versus actual

[37:26] account for balances and transactions

[37:28] do we have any questions there yeah on

[37:31] page page two budget versus actual

[37:35] near the bottom under Town Park

[37:40] just want to know what that 2220

[37:42] represented

[37:44] and why it was a thousand dollars over

[37:47] budget

[37:52] you want me to respond

[37:56] yes I believe the 20 we prepaid the um

[38:01] Landscaping application as you know I

[38:03] believe you questioned that last month

[38:04] so we prepaid that because we could save

[38:07] a couple hundred dollars

[38:09] um I believe the total bill was 2 800

[38:12] some uh I prorated it between the town

[38:16] hall grounds and the park grounds and

[38:20] um because we were into a two-year

[38:22] contract and because we did have a

[38:25] discount

[38:26] and if need be

[38:28] um

[38:30] if the park committee meets and decides

[38:32] that they want to move some funds from

[38:34] their Capital

[38:36] um fun to cover that that's fine that

[38:38] would be up to the park Department then the bill on page

[38:45] one I think of transactions

[38:48] that that bill from Spring Green

[38:53] 2776 dollars what does that represent

[38:57] 2200 of it was allocated to the park the

[39:00] other 500 or whatever was allocated to

[39:02] the town hall so that's the actual bill

[39:04] correct okay

[39:07] now and I just just this point

[39:10] information

[39:11] so back you know last meeting

[39:14] we talked about payment that was made in

[39:18] the 16th of December

[39:21] uh the spring green for 27.76

[39:25] that actually represent services for

[39:29] 2013. no it's 2014 contract so we're paying up to 2015 though on this

[39:38] contract no

[39:40] so how do we pay twice for 2014. we

[39:43] don't

[39:45] so it's budgeted for 2014. so it may

[39:49] have been on the December bill payment

[39:50] but it's posted to the 2014 budget

[39:57] but it was taken out of 2013 funds

[40:01] it's posted to the 2014 budget put it

[40:05] back but it's taken out of the 2013 fund

[40:07] no because it's posted on the budget

[40:09] right here for 2014. the payment was

[40:12] made in 2013. correct right

[40:16] out of 2014 budget correct

[40:20] okay so we have paid for 2014.

[40:25] for spring green to do the landscape

[40:27] maintenance

[40:29] now this 2000 that we received

[40:33] on one one one of 2014 represents 2014

[40:39] again

[40:41] or 2015. it's only 20. only 2013 and

[40:46] 2014. so we've already paid that amount

[40:48] so we paid for 2014. this coming year

[40:52] correct so why are we seeing a bill from

[40:56] the same company

[40:58] appearing on here for 2014.

[41:05] because it's the 2014 contract

[41:09] we paid we paid for around 2013. I

[41:12] believe we paid 299 in 2013. and we're

[41:17] going to pay 2 000.

[41:20] 875 dollars in 2014. for 2015. it's

[41:24] posted for the 2014 budget they still

[41:27] can't get this clarifying no I think

[41:29] what's Happening Here is you're getting

[41:31] confused between the the accounting of

[41:34] it

[41:34] and we use the money she used funds

[41:38] available to prepay it to take advantage

[41:40] of the discount but as far as when it

[41:42] actually goes on the books it shows up

[41:45] as a 14 transaction that's what it is

[41:47] same thing with our fire protection I

[41:49] have to pay the fire protection by

[41:51] December 31st for the January 2014

[41:55] quarter so I pay it in December of 2013

[41:59] but it's posted to 2014 because that's

[42:02] where the coverage is only a single

[42:04] payment and what will happen is the

[42:06] accountants will move it back to the

[42:08] year that it belongs in as well

[42:11] so the check that was written on 1216 in

[42:14] 2013.

[42:17] is actually paying for the bill that was

[42:19] submitted 1-1

[42:21] 2014. correct okay

[42:26] and that's a one-year one-year contract

[42:29] it was a two-year contract 2013 2014 so

[42:33] we're in the second year of the two-year

[42:35] contract

[42:37] okay

[42:39] I think it's all on accountability and how it comes out in the uh

[42:44] actual versus the budget another example

[42:47] would be our room tax we don't receive

[42:49] our room tax for December of 2013. I

[42:53] just received it the other week

[42:54] posted to 2013 even though we received

[42:57] it in 2014. any other questions comments

[43:04] need a motion then to approve and place

[43:06] it on file that we approved financial

[43:08] report January 2014 budget versus actual

[43:12] assault balances and transactions

[43:16] you have a second

[43:17] I'll second that

[43:21] all in favor say aye aye opposed

[43:27] World committee reports and committee

[43:29] minutes do you have any questions on

[43:33] those that were provided

[43:36] with your packet

[43:42] there are none they'll be accepted and

[43:44] pipes on filed do we have any oral

[43:46] committee reports

[43:52] got a quick one from the

[43:55] Georgia Bay Visitor Center which we are

[43:59] partner in on the fire and ice

[44:04] weekend which was February 15 16.

[44:09] um dealing with the snow carvings and

[44:12] the ice sculptures

[44:14] the weekend turned out to be great the

[44:17] weather was nice we had plenty of good

[44:19] snow this year for a chance and uh

[44:22] some of the winners in the advanced

[44:25] stage first place went to David Milan

[44:29] Malin his skating penguin which was

[44:33] sponsored by The Brick Alley

[44:35] the second place went to Walter Ash

[44:38] hand holding a paintbrush that was

[44:41] sponsored by the artist Gill

[44:43] third place went to David Bartels

[44:46] a bear

[44:48] sponsored by gwendolines

[44:50] the intermediates first place Tracy

[44:54] Robinson and Teresa born

[44:57] angelfish sponsored by the door Coney

[45:00] Eye association Associates

[45:03] second went to Chris Kristen Kelson

[45:07] child's blocks sponsored by Child's Play

[45:11] third place went to Cody Leist a

[45:14] lighthouse sponsored by Monticello

[45:17] in The Beginner's class first place went

[45:19] to Elena Pera

[45:24] at Apple sponsored by dancing bear

[45:27] second placement to Cape Warren check

[45:30] and Jackie Simon mask

[45:33] sponsored by hot commodities

[45:35] the youth class

[45:37] first place went to Cape Warren check

[45:39] and Jackie Simon The Mask sponsored by a

[45:43] hot tamale

[45:44] People's Choice went to Max Martin the

[45:48] Woodpecker and that was sponsored by

[45:50] Associated Bank

[45:52] to thank everybody that participated in

[45:55] the weekend

[45:56] and we look forward to

[45:58] the next

[46:00] doings which will be the St Patrick's

[46:03] Day Parade

[46:08] okay do we have any other oral Community

[46:10] reports

[46:14] hearing none license and permits that

[46:16] were issued

[46:24] or construction is down to zero

[46:42] pending business the status discussion

[46:45] and action potential rezoning and the

[46:47] core areas

[46:49] if you'll notice that

[46:54] we have two pending and then we have a

[46:56] whole bunch of new business

[46:59] our chairman of our planned commission

[47:02] is going to run the meeting for the next

[47:04] hour and a half

[47:07] sorry

[47:09] um the potential rezoning of the core

[47:12] areas it's

[47:14] we had a meeting about 20

[47:17] 21st of

[47:20] no February and we came up with that we

[47:23] were going to place

[47:25] the rezoning on hold for now but we're

[47:28] going to use it as a tool

[47:31] for future

[47:34] requests and we're also working on a

[47:41] press release that will come out so that

[47:43] we can notify everybody of the

[47:46] of what is actually going on and if you

[47:50] have your in your packet there was a

[47:54] colorful thing that green was good and

[47:58] red and yellow were iffy there wasn't a

[48:00] whole lot of

[48:01] Green in there so the overall response

[48:05] was to do nothing at this time

[48:09] we did have some support though we did

[48:10] have some support very few but some

[48:13] support great

[48:16] is this colorful

[48:18] survey report and the maps available

[48:24] here in our office or sure I got how

[48:27] many copies you want at the county or

[48:29] where

[48:30] um

[48:31] anybody wanting to have them can pick

[48:34] them up

[48:36] yes are they on our website or are they

[48:39] on the counties website they are on door

[48:41] the initial presentation is on the door

[48:44] County Planning and Zoning website and I

[48:46] also have a link from the town website

[48:49] so I guess my question would be will

[48:51] this be placed on the Planning and

[48:53] Zoning website and then we can place it

[48:56] on ours as well

[48:57] is

[49:09] I mean the map certainly would be

[49:12] appropriate I mean yeah designate the

[49:14] areas and people but I'm not sure we

[49:17] want to put the uh the individual names Property Owners well I

[49:22] think that's all public record anyway

[49:23] yeah it should be

[49:26] yeah I mean we thought we talked about

[49:28] um

[49:29] sending out letters from each and every

[49:32] one of these people okay

[49:34] thank you

[49:36] that's quite an undertaking of mailing

[49:38] though

[49:40] again

[49:42] okay so there are no activity on behalf

[49:45] of this board that we have to do not

[49:47] this time we're just going to use it as

[49:48] a recommending than it just be placed on

[49:51] hold at least on hold yes

[49:55] Linda you got that recorded

[49:59] yes

[50:03] okay comprehensive plan annual review

[50:05] the plan commission comments

[50:07] recommendations

[50:09] um we have two of them uh the town board

[50:14] um should adjust the core area

[50:15] boundaries to line up with the lot lines

[50:18] is the first one a lot of the

[50:22] when the red goes

[50:24] the different colors go around it

[50:26] doesn't match up with the property lines

[50:28] so we were going to just Square it off

[50:30] to a property line so it's more of a

[50:32] distinct line

[50:34] there's something we do or the county

[50:36] does or the county does we recommend it

[50:39] to them

[50:41] so and then um

[50:44] another one was for the comprehensive

[50:45] plan we're gonna

[50:48] work on a couple of pages to act as our

[50:50] update

[50:52] for the existing comprehensive plan so

[50:55] that we don't have to

[50:56] reinvent the whole thing so

[50:59] okay

[51:01] which makes a lot of sense it makes a

[51:03] lot of sense plus again we're going to

[51:06] do something in regards to the latest

[51:09] census information I think

[51:11] yeah the 2010 census we're going to have

[51:14] a page to link

[51:16] add a page there to link so that they

[51:19] know how to get through our website or

[51:21] through the County's website to the

[51:23] census the County's website counties

[51:30] okay if you got done with that one let's

[51:34] go in their new business

[51:36] blank commission report recommendation

[51:41] future land use

[51:44] update on the current uh our future land

[51:47] use

[51:50] okay recommend that existing land use

[51:53] maps reflect all conditional use permits

[51:57] that were approved since 2008

[52:00] and on the committee minutes at the very

[52:03] last page there was a list that we were

[52:06] going to give them

[52:07] thank you well it wasn't it was right at

[52:10] the end so

[52:13] and

[52:14] then we should

[52:16] change future existing land use maps

[52:20] to include the ex existing commercial

[52:24] zoned area for future development

[52:27] some of the

[52:28] commercial development isn't quite right

[52:31] on some of the maps so we got to get

[52:33] that straightened out

[52:37] you're going to keep that on your agenda

[52:48] yes

[52:53] one supervisor could I ask a question

[52:55] yes

[52:57] um as far as reporting this to the

[52:59] county is there anything that

[53:02] the clerk would need to report to the

[53:04] county at this time regarding future

[53:05] land use

[53:08] um

[53:09] well that we we were going to give them

[53:11] a copy of our agenda

[53:14] but you know we need the list to give

[53:17] them the list and those two items one

[53:19] was the

[53:22] conditional use permits that we wanted

[53:24] on there and then the other one was

[53:26] changing the future existing land use

[53:29] map

[53:31] with and have the commercial existing

[53:33] commercial

[53:35] marked correctly okay

[53:42] which is in her agendas are in our

[53:46] minutes in the minutes

[53:49] okay act 170 the next one on your list

[53:52] there or not yep could you just tell us

[53:55] what what it's all about well yeah

[53:59] I mean it's a guide

[54:03] so that

[54:04] in zoning you can

[54:07] it's a guide for non-conforming

[54:09] structures and substandard lots in

[54:13] Shoreland areas

[54:16] so it's it's like a elaborate point

[54:20] system that you can get points for doing

[54:24] this and points for doing that

[54:28] I don't know it's self-ex kind of

[54:32] self-explanatory but it's confusing too

[54:35] so

[54:37] was this a presentation to your

[54:40] commission or what

[54:42] no I think that was it it was the public

[54:44] educational session that the Planning

[54:48] and Zoning sponsored I attended Victoria

[54:51] attended in Daryl varnberg attended so

[54:55] these were part of the handouts

[54:57] very good

[55:02] so was there a lot of change to the

[55:04] Shoreland zoning regulations or just a

[55:07] reaffirm

[55:09] the DNR has enacted this

[55:12] um I believe correct the DNR has enacted

[55:15] it

[55:16] um it does reverse some of the um the

[55:19] old regulations it actually lightens up

[55:22] I think

[55:24] um the Shoreland zoning a little bit and

[55:27] as supervisor stavanus mentioned

[55:31] um a homeowner say you would want to

[55:33] expand an existing structure whatever

[55:36] you as supervisor stamina said you can

[55:38] gain these extra points by maybe

[55:40] screening or voluntarily setting it back

[55:44] further from the high water mark

[55:46] the mitigation manual kind of addresses

[55:51] that as well and the Door County

[55:53] Corporation Council is in the process of

[55:57] doing the proposed ordinance Zone to

[56:00] affect them I see on page five you have

[56:02] some new language for the NR 1 to 15 and

[56:06] X1 and 70. that would be for the

[56:09] non-conforming uses structure and lots

[56:16] does that mean that it's a big change or

[56:18] not

[56:21] they change the Act and the 115 change

[56:26] the setback rule for non-conforming

[56:30] structures it used to be 75 feet from

[56:33] the high water mark if your structure

[56:35] was within that area you couldn't make

[56:37] any change to that structure at all and

[56:40] now it's 35 feet

[56:42] I see that now so it's a it's a big

[56:44] advantage to the owner of an existing

[56:47] structure if they want to make an update

[56:52] or a change to that a modification there

[56:54] they have more

[56:56] opportunity

[56:58] thank you

[57:02] okay is there any other questions on the

[57:04] information provided

[57:07] just the one that came up a little while

[57:09] back where they also talked about uh

[57:11] impervious surfaces

[57:13] I think it's part of this part of the

[57:16] mitigation and hope that if you increase

[57:18] the amount of impervious surfaces they

[57:21] have a table where you can trade off and

[57:24] say well you've made more impervious

[57:26] year put more screening there we'll give

[57:27] you these points take away those so

[57:29] that's all part of this thanks

[57:33] okay petition for the Door County zoning

[57:36] Texas Amendment temporary uses yeah

[57:40] um I think we've went over this about

[57:42] four times now but

[57:44] um we as the Planning Commission

[57:48] recommended no change to be made for the

[57:51] current number of days

[57:52] allowed in a calendar year and the

[57:55] current number is 10. so you can have

[58:00] or something

[58:02] huh you were recommending six or

[58:05] something yeah we were but we changed

[58:07] that to Nowhere no okay so you can have

[58:11] ten you can have all 10 and in a row or

[58:13] you can have one here one there and

[58:16] be done with it so that's still coming up to uh

[58:26] did you refund or not or we will respond

[58:29] to see

[58:31] it's in our minutes so they would

[58:35] will we took what we recommended the stated

[58:43] temporary uses that were

[58:46] presented to the RPC board didn't we

[58:49] yeah

[58:53] we recommended no change right yeah so we're going along with their

[59:00] recommendations correct

[59:04] okay letter D that is the Steve Robinson

[59:06] discussion on the potential rezoning of

[59:09] parcels

[59:10] at 4001 State Highway 42-57.

[59:15] Steve is present you wanna

[59:19] come forward or you want to do it from

[59:21] there

[59:22] you guys

[59:27] I brought some maps with me so when I

[59:30] come forward that's okay all right I'm

[59:31] very good

[59:45] like we try to Resort 44A

[59:49] on a land use on

[59:52] the web map that I copied off I have a

[59:56] 44A and 40 43 a electric

[1:00:00] is on 44 8 the commercial on your

[1:00:05] future land use map of the Thomas of

[1:00:08] basketball

[1:00:12] on 44A showing approximately

[1:00:17] 15.6 papers

[1:00:19] and 44A is 18.92 Acres getting back to

[1:00:25] what John said before just a minute ago

[1:00:27] he'd like to square this section off and

[1:00:30] I think that'd be probably a good idea

[1:00:33] of the 18.92 Acres I like to rezone

[1:00:37] there's 3.66 Acres of unusual setback

[1:00:42] lines from the state highway so I just

[1:00:44] want to let's take that into

[1:00:45] consideration also

[1:00:55] this is where your your former building

[1:00:58] well if you want to listen to this is

[1:01:00] where the elements yes that is correct

[1:01:02] and I own 44 8 and 43a

[1:01:08] thank you

[1:01:16] on the one map you've got 450 feet from

[1:01:20] the highway Mark and the line that's

[1:01:22] fine that's what I like that's what

[1:01:25] that's okay yeah I went down to the Door

[1:01:28] County Planning department and they did

[1:01:30] a

[1:01:31] um they scaled it out and I can't tell

[1:01:34] you how they did it but they figured it

[1:01:37] was 450 feet from the center of the road

[1:01:40] and

[1:01:43] um it goes back to when we did the

[1:01:45] comprehensive plant and we did the

[1:01:47] coloring we had the Crayons where every

[1:01:50] person that wanted the red marking to go

[1:01:54] commercial they drew a line so that's

[1:01:56] how many people were there so they so

[1:01:58] that's where they got the 450 feet yeah and I know dick said last week at

[1:02:02] the plan before meeting that it might be

[1:02:05] wise to the straighten you know it's

[1:02:07] Square it off or else

[1:02:09] no yeah that that measurement I think is

[1:02:13] kind of an arbitrary I mean they

[1:02:15] obviously from

[1:02:17] they interpreted that from those the

[1:02:21] maps we had back during that session so

[1:02:23] we worked very hard on and we worked

[1:02:25] very hard on

[1:02:27] um

[1:02:29] in my mind uh it represents you know not

[1:02:34] exactly 450 feet because when those Maps

[1:02:38] were filled in we didn't take that into

[1:02:40] consideration the exact

[1:02:42] measurement from the highway it was

[1:02:46] for me it's more of an arbitrary thing

[1:02:48] okay then if you want to do this whole

[1:02:50] lot the next lot over is 80 80 acres you

[1:02:54] want to do that whole one too

[1:02:56] I don't know what's in the uh I'm

[1:02:58] totally confused well no you gotta set

[1:03:01] some place well I I guess so but I mean

[1:03:03] we're if we just deal with 44A the the

[1:03:06] parcel that he's talking about okay

[1:03:08] correct uh whether it's 450 feet or 500

[1:03:13] feet or 600 feet I would rather consider

[1:03:16] the whole parcel than just the 454

[1:03:20] Corridor that have been established by

[1:03:22] the planning department from our mapping

[1:03:25] session

[1:03:27] but also we wanted to keep the rural

[1:03:29] character too

[1:03:32] well I mean can I sure go ahead

[1:03:36] and

[1:03:42] um I just want to grab something that's

[1:03:43] okay here

[1:03:46] foreign

[1:04:03] comprehensive plan that kind of

[1:04:05] contradicts it as far as I'm concerned

[1:04:07] he says guy and they're going to direct

[1:04:11] the screening

[1:04:12] and it did Issue of use permit so what I

[1:04:14] can do there you know what I cannot do

[1:04:17] there

[1:04:18] um I'll pass this along also anybody

[1:04:21] would like to read this what it says

[1:04:23] regulate new development to fit the

[1:04:25] country counties and Community by

[1:04:27] Maxwell as a visual impact

[1:04:30] guide Highway Corridor development and

[1:04:32] approved quarter of treatment so as

[1:04:34] maximum cleanse of the community and

[1:04:35] preserve the conscious

[1:04:37] scenery work Reserve over green space

[1:04:39] between Community along Highway any

[1:04:42] future Corey development should be well

[1:04:43] screened

[1:04:45] well

[1:04:49] sir any future quarter developers be

[1:04:51] well screened and designed in reviewing

[1:04:53] conditional use permits and resuming

[1:04:55] consider High recorder appearance

[1:04:57] encourage country rights signage because

[1:05:00] that ends there

[1:05:03] um would you like to look at this but it

[1:05:05] says that really when you go to the RPC

[1:05:08] for a permit

[1:05:10] or you you go to the county for a permit

[1:05:14] you have regularizations but you can do

[1:05:17] and what screening is taking effect so

[1:05:20] they really set the guidelines of

[1:05:22] everything

[1:05:22] as far as screening as far as setbacks

[1:05:28] um

[1:05:28] it's so there's going to be some

[1:05:31] guidelines that are going to be

[1:05:33] sent by them yeah if you're granted a

[1:05:38] commercial

[1:05:44] re-resoding for that person

[1:05:47] once it's once it's rezoned commercial

[1:05:50] then the regulations within that

[1:05:52] classification you have to meet that is

[1:05:55] correct

[1:05:56] um

[1:05:58] I mean that that for me that's really

[1:05:59] the question here

[1:06:01] is whether or not

[1:06:03] that parcel land okay you're talking

[1:06:05] about two Parcels here 44A

[1:06:08] why don't you give us an idea of what it

[1:06:11] is where it is I'm lost it but I think I

[1:06:14] figured it out but what's your 44A is

[1:06:17] what 44 8 is the worst existence right

[1:06:20] across from Grandma Tommy's

[1:06:23] okay the White House and the white barn

[1:06:25] right away from Grandma Tommy sits at

[1:06:27] the southern Edge Maybe

[1:06:30] 200 feet yes it's correct to the

[1:06:33] boundary and then the rest to all the

[1:06:35] way up to

[1:06:38] um

[1:06:38] driveway that goes into Grandma Tommy's

[1:06:40] between the realtor's office almost

[1:06:42] right it might be the other boundary it

[1:06:44] goes pretty close if you're familiar

[1:06:48] um yes real close it's it's basically

[1:06:51] there's a four Plex of Robert Gayton

[1:06:53] owns and my mother's uses alone the

[1:06:56] property line is right across from there

[1:06:57] okay

[1:06:58] but I want 43a and 44A I'm asking me

[1:07:02] Zone 44A so but what the line represents

[1:07:06] is what we what I put in at our meeting

[1:07:08] is 450 feet coming off from our Maps

[1:07:12] over there right is what with the

[1:07:15] session

[1:07:17] how wide

[1:07:19] the whole wide a commercial drill strip

[1:07:21] you're going to allow or suggest versus

[1:07:24] rezoning the entire parcel correct

[1:07:29] this though the parcel that would be

[1:07:32] left after that for 150 feet is very

[1:07:35] minimal yeah and what you really did is

[1:07:39] you landlocked it between that

[1:07:41] commercial

[1:07:42] and on the other side we have a wetland

[1:07:46] it's going down it's still high ground

[1:07:48] there but 43. it makes sense to allow

[1:07:53] that parcel in its entirety to be

[1:07:57] commercial rather than to just chop off

[1:07:59] the 450 feet of Frontage and it's some

[1:08:02] of the highest property on that Corridor

[1:08:04] area

[1:08:05] where I'm where that is great

[1:08:08] but if you want to stay with them

[1:08:14] if you want to stay within the

[1:08:15] comprehensive plan you've got this

[1:08:17] little green triangle right here that

[1:08:19] would be left and you could also just

[1:08:20] attach that to 44 B 43 43 whatever the

[1:08:26] number is

[1:08:27] you stop worrying about this little

[1:08:29] corner yeah I would take off that other

[1:08:31] Corner then for it doesn't improve on

[1:08:33] intrude on 43 Haven okay

[1:08:36] you know and it's only what it is you're

[1:08:40] losing 3.6 acres in the setbacks from

[1:08:42] the state highway

[1:08:45] um right now 44A is 18.92 Acres

[1:08:48] and what it shows on the smart growth

[1:08:53] plan of Thomas vest which you measured

[1:08:54] off is 15.68 68 Acres

[1:09:07] and this piece here on this map John

[1:09:10] that's grandma Tommy's right now

[1:09:13] right no no

[1:09:16] um

[1:09:19] I know what I'm talking about I got you

[1:09:21] sorry

[1:09:22] because that'd be the mill right the

[1:09:24] circle for the curb looking down on the

[1:09:26] corner okay you might I guess you know

[1:09:29] where do you want to stop because I

[1:09:31] guess my point is if it's 450 feet wide

[1:09:35] then that I'm pretty sure that next

[1:09:37] adjacent property there

[1:09:40] you know that's you don't want it to go

[1:09:42] all the way with the 80 acre field there

[1:09:44] it's a huge field so do you want to just

[1:09:47] it's on that commercial too right away

[1:09:50] there's nobody applying to have that

[1:09:52] result I mean what's what's being

[1:09:54] questioned right now is the track the

[1:09:56] land that Steve is presenting to us to

[1:09:59] be correct

[1:10:01] the parcel next to it is a totally

[1:10:04] different story I mean it's still

[1:10:05] general Egg so I mean what those people

[1:10:08] just would want to do they'd have to go

[1:10:11] through the same process that that Steve

[1:10:13] would go through to get it resolved so

[1:10:15] we're not setting a precedent here by by

[1:10:19] granting Steve I mean if if in fact

[1:10:22] Steve was granted rezoning commercial

[1:10:25] that doesn't set a precedent for a next

[1:10:27] partial land I don't have any problem

[1:10:29] with changing that zoning on that strip

[1:10:31] but I don't think I'd want it to go all

[1:10:33] the way back for that whole parcel well

[1:10:36] I mean I I would just we have a they

[1:10:39] have a commercial or excuse me you have

[1:10:41] a plan that says that you should have

[1:10:43] that strip and you try to adhere to it

[1:10:46] otherwise the next one comes along and

[1:10:48] wants to do 80 acres

[1:10:51] there would be an individual I mean that

[1:10:53] would be another case I understand that

[1:10:54] I'm just saying but now you've got a

[1:10:56] situation where the next one comes on I

[1:10:57] said well you zoned this whole parcel

[1:10:59] why not you know your plan says you

[1:11:00] should do less than that

[1:11:03] and certainly there's a lot of room in

[1:11:05] 450 feet so right now when you are

[1:11:08] requesting the whole parcel right 44A I

[1:11:11] am requesting the whole parcel which is

[1:11:13] 18.92 Acres I will

[1:11:16] take the recommendation the board gives

[1:11:18] me if they want to go with 15.9 uh 15.6

[1:11:22] Acres

[1:11:23] I just want to remind you there's no

[1:11:26] matter what the street point

[1:11:29] 3.6866 Acres coming off the top because

[1:11:32] it's setbacks from the highway right so

[1:11:34] either I have

[1:11:35] 15 Acres or I have 12 acres of

[1:11:37] commercial and I and I agree with Chuck

[1:11:39] I mean why why segregate off that

[1:11:42] 1.3 Acres or whatever for the sake of the you know not going beyond the 450

[1:11:49] feet we've already got 450 feet of

[1:11:52] exposure

[1:11:54] of commercial property what behind it is

[1:11:57] not going to be a significant uh

[1:12:00] I think we all agree we all agree that

[1:12:04] it shouldn't this be a drawn line across a parcel

[1:12:12] to be in compliance with reports

[1:12:15] that doesn't make any sense all right

[1:12:18] the biggest problem that we do have is

[1:12:20] here for discussion only

[1:12:22] could not come up with any uh

[1:12:26] recommendation I think Steve wanted to

[1:12:28] bring it to us

[1:12:30] so that we didn't hear about it from

[1:12:32] someone else and that

[1:12:34] jaundice already Was Fear plan correct

[1:12:39] was it an item for discussion or just

[1:12:41] for review it was an item for discussion

[1:12:44] Okay so

[1:12:46] once you make application

[1:12:49] to the county

[1:12:51] then it comes to us and we give it to

[1:12:53] our plan

[1:12:54] commission for recommendation

[1:12:57] to go backwards normally it's a 28 day

[1:13:01] notification but

[1:13:04] I think what you're hearing tonight is

[1:13:05] maybe you want to go for the

[1:13:08] entire parcel

[1:13:11] which one would that be 44A

[1:13:15] does that make sense to you

[1:13:17] it makes a lot of sense because it

[1:13:19] squares off that property

[1:13:24] it doesn't intrude on 43

[1:13:28] 43a is captured in that 450 foot setback

[1:13:32] yeah line that is established

[1:13:36] um

[1:13:37] from the center of the road so then it

[1:13:40] doesn't include 43a which is another

[1:13:44] 28 Acres which I'm not asking for

[1:13:46] resulting okay

[1:13:49] is that okay with you

[1:13:51] is that what you had minded right I I I

[1:13:53] can't see any other way of doing it the

[1:13:55] chocolate yeah

[1:13:59] great I think we have a consensus you

[1:14:01] you're okay with that too

[1:14:04] no that's

[1:14:05] because um the consensus in our minutes

[1:14:08] say that rezoning the Westerly 450 feet

[1:14:12] parallel to the state highway 4257

[1:14:15] Parcels 43a 44A is consistent with the

[1:14:20] future use of this land as described in

[1:14:23] the Sebastopol comprehensive plan

[1:14:29] a year and a half almost two years

[1:14:31] getting that comprehensive plan together

[1:14:33] and now if we're going to just do

[1:14:35] whatever we want then

[1:14:38] you were you were in agreeance with this

[1:14:40] too the other day well I was in

[1:14:41] agreement with the 450 feet to me that's

[1:14:45] an arbitrary number because when we drew

[1:14:47] those Maps up we didn't we didn't say

[1:14:50] exactly 450 feet we we filled in an area

[1:14:53] correct for for commercial development

[1:14:56] but to me I mean we didn't we didn't get

[1:14:58] to the point where we detailed it to uh

[1:15:01] to helpful plants each one of those

[1:15:04] lines represented a certain area so if

[1:15:07] there was there was 50 people that drew

[1:15:09] a line that's what made it wider right

[1:15:11] there were two people that made it

[1:15:12] narrower so but each person that drew a

[1:15:15] line or wanted it there it grew or

[1:15:18] shrank right so it was in consensus with

[1:15:22] the

[1:15:23] coloring program when we had our

[1:15:26] comprehensive plan you know I see your

[1:15:28] point but I mean also when we when we

[1:15:30] were talking about updating our Our Land

[1:15:33] usage uh maps that we have we're talking

[1:15:37] about not cutting up parcels and

[1:15:40] including entire Parcels into into the

[1:15:43] various areas so

[1:15:45] in this particular case we would

[1:15:49] cut up a parcel of land uh with with

[1:15:53] nine tenths with being Zone commercial

[1:15:55] and one tenthood remaining as

[1:15:57] agricultural

[1:16:00] that wouldn't make much sense to me I

[1:16:03] mean we're already talking about

[1:16:04] updating this land use map to represent

[1:16:07] the actual Parcels that are out there

[1:16:10] well then I think the next guy that

[1:16:11] comes in is going to want this whole

[1:16:13] parcel done too

[1:16:15] well if you look at our comprehensive

[1:16:18] plan that is not law that was ideas and

[1:16:21] suggestions and it's no different than

[1:16:25] people wanting to build on their Shore

[1:16:27] Lots or anything else you've got

[1:16:29] variances you change rules and

[1:16:31] regulations to suit what the system is

[1:16:34] or what needs to be done there so but

[1:16:37] it's a guide It's a guide and that's all

[1:16:39] it is and it says to guide us at 450

[1:16:42] feet

[1:16:43] okay

[1:16:46] so coming out of your planned commission

[1:16:48] was that you were not in favor we were

[1:16:51] in favor of having it rezoned but the

[1:16:53] 450 feet not the whole parcel but he

[1:16:56] also at the time he presented 43a which

[1:17:00] he has dropped out of now so I guess

[1:17:03] it's everything it's changed just a

[1:17:05] little bit but

[1:17:07] and it was just information too it's

[1:17:09] nothing it's sealed he's got to go and

[1:17:13] get a plan but he just wanted us to feel

[1:17:16] us out and see you know what we felt

[1:17:19] what did we um Steve you I'm sure you

[1:17:22] remember this what did we do on Grandma

[1:17:25] Tommy's was that all commercial at the

[1:17:28] time or was it country Countryside there was two different

[1:17:32] Parcels there

[1:17:34] um

[1:17:35] one was

[1:17:37] a Countryside you know it was all

[1:17:40] Countryside but there was two different

[1:17:42] Parcels there you know we did we rezoned

[1:17:46] the top part

[1:17:48] two

[1:17:50] um commercial in the bottom part of

[1:17:54] state and Countryside just like we have

[1:17:56] now

[1:17:57] and we call that an outlet

[1:18:00] okay and the outlet was used for

[1:18:05] similarities as this could be used for

[1:18:09] um

[1:18:10] drainage ditches Retention Ponds

[1:18:15] um not buildable ever

[1:18:18] and uh

[1:18:21] that's how we did it there

[1:18:23] I I just made it just makes sense just

[1:18:26] in this part so I'm not saying the 88

[1:18:28] comparcial to make it all commercial I'm

[1:18:31] not saying that but in this parcel it

[1:18:33] just makes sense it seems to make sense

[1:18:36] to Square Off

[1:18:37] this to make it right first of all it

[1:18:41] doesn't protrude on 43a and it squares

[1:18:44] off 44A and it's as I said if this would

[1:18:48] be it would only be about 15 Acres

[1:18:51] of

[1:18:52] commercials area to work with

[1:18:59] and I'm and my guidelines are with also

[1:19:01] with many different permits I would have

[1:19:04] to go through conditional use permits

[1:19:06] and when I do decide what I'm going to

[1:19:07] do with this and I have some thoughts on

[1:19:10] it all also we had going back quite a

[1:19:13] while ago

[1:19:14] we had

[1:19:16] Sons come in here and talk about

[1:19:17] rezoning their parcel but they never

[1:19:19] actually did that right they had to

[1:19:22] um they were going to delineate the

[1:19:24] wetlands and they never did that they

[1:19:26] never did that so nothing ever happened

[1:19:27] as ons either and I have the paperwork

[1:19:29] on that too

[1:19:31] um whether it was

[1:19:33] focused on but

[1:19:35] have you checked into anything Steve if

[1:19:38] that is uh Zone commercial what will you be required to put in a

[1:19:45] frontage road to assess those properties

[1:19:47] right now I am required to take out the

[1:19:51] two driveways going in to

[1:19:56] um

[1:19:56] my own office which is least in my

[1:19:59] office space I have a double driveway

[1:20:01] going in there

[1:20:03] I required to take that off and make a

[1:20:06] frontage road as I do on the

[1:20:08] east side of the road like Grandma times

[1:20:12] with one driver coming in considering

[1:20:14] the 450 feet that uh 66 feet of that is

[1:20:18] going to wind up his Road

[1:20:20] and you've got to be 75 feet off the

[1:20:22] highway

[1:20:23] so I mean that parts will get smaller

[1:20:25] and smaller as you as you go along there

[1:20:28] and that was put in the that is

[1:20:31] documented in the courthouse

[1:20:34] that that's what has to be done because

[1:20:37] the dot looked at it and that's what

[1:20:40] they recommended and the driveway

[1:20:43] changes I had to go along with that I

[1:20:46] think that was probably the best bet

[1:20:47] where they decided to bring one in on

[1:20:50] the other property and take the tool

[1:20:52] so I'm bringing one in and taking too

[1:20:54] old

[1:20:54] can I do do something in that side

[1:20:58] well agency that we don't all agree but

[1:21:02] well I think if

[1:21:03] depending on what he comes back to show

[1:21:06] us in terms of what he thinks there's a

[1:21:07] lot of looked like and the way he would

[1:21:09] use it that would play I think into the

[1:21:11] conversation it makes the actual

[1:21:13] application

[1:21:14] right right and you know maybe the

[1:21:17] solution is not you know when he makes

[1:21:18] the application he's gonna make an

[1:21:20] application to resell the property he

[1:21:22] doesn't have to tell you what he's going

[1:21:24] to do with it

[1:21:25] or he can say he's going to do one thing

[1:21:27] and

[1:21:29] I mean yeah there's certain guidelines

[1:21:31] in the commercial zoning classification

[1:21:34] that restricts him to

[1:21:36] various right developments so

[1:21:40] I mean

[1:21:42] you've seen what I've done over Grandma

[1:21:44] Tommy's he looks pretty very nice I

[1:21:46] believe and

[1:21:47] I would take that into consideration on

[1:21:49] the other side when I did something over

[1:21:51] there also but uh right it looks Top

[1:21:54] Notch I believe

[1:21:55] but my point is that I was spent a year

[1:21:58] and a half on this comprehensive plan

[1:22:00] and I'd really like to stick to it and

[1:22:03] there was a lot of other people that put

[1:22:04] a lot of you know I was there too effort

[1:22:08] into it and okay I see your hand up but

[1:22:10] this isn't really a hearing but I'll

[1:22:13] allow you to speak yeah

[1:22:17] and they're gonna right now we're in the

[1:22:20] process I believe of rerouting

[1:22:22] Forest Road

[1:22:24] so to squared off of the highway if you

[1:22:27] are but the state is dead in the water

[1:22:29] right now right oh it's dead where would

[1:22:33] you put the one access to your furniture

[1:22:34] straight across from the north access

[1:22:36] that I have now coming in the grandma

[1:22:38] Tommy's so north of the intersection

[1:22:40] that is correct north of Forest Road

[1:22:46] any other comments questions

[1:22:50] well good luck I guess you'll have to

[1:22:52] come back to whatever you petition for

[1:22:54] and then

[1:22:56] see what you can agree with or disagree

[1:22:59] with when it comes to K and then bring

[1:23:01] it to John well I guess what I'm saying

[1:23:03] is you know I want to bring in what you

[1:23:06] guys think I mean

[1:23:09] I see that there's some negatives about these

[1:23:15] adding the extra acreage but

[1:23:18] I think that negative is because it's

[1:23:21] drawn on

[1:23:22] is drawn on an award you know and plans

[1:23:26] are subject of changes especially when

[1:23:28] you make a comprehensive plan like that

[1:23:30] there's new visions and

[1:23:32] stuff like that you see stuff after when

[1:23:34] people come in you know I really seeing

[1:23:37] that for me Richie you came in and you

[1:23:39] wanted the 450 feet that's correct right

[1:23:42] so okay but okay your choice the other

[1:23:46] way is to petition for zoning amendment

[1:23:50] to allow and then

[1:23:52] it'll be like talking to the big guy up

[1:23:54] there

[1:23:57] thank you all right thank you sorry

[1:24:01] we can't be more country

[1:24:03] I don't know

[1:24:06] okay any other discussion on that one I

[1:24:10] could just say one thing that our

[1:24:13] comprehensive plan also

[1:24:15] has some paperwork in it on trying to

[1:24:18] attract businesses into our town and I

[1:24:22] don't believe

[1:24:23] by trying to discourage somebody

[1:24:25] changing their property to Commercial

[1:24:27] and and bringing business in

[1:24:30] I know something we should be doing

[1:24:32] either so well wait a minute though that

[1:24:34] is what I'm trying to do

[1:24:36] I'm not saying he can't change

[1:24:38] commercial it's just the distance you

[1:24:41] know with sticking with the

[1:24:42] comprehensive plan

[1:24:43] and when he presented it everybody at

[1:24:46] there was four of us at the uh plan

[1:24:49] commission who said that we were in

[1:24:52] support of him getting the 450 feet

[1:24:56] changed to commercial

[1:24:59] so

[1:25:00] it's it's not a point of commercial it's what the footage is so you're gonna

[1:25:05] do the whole lot or are you going to do

[1:25:07] the 450 feet

[1:25:10] I think what happened here is it went

[1:25:13] back to your trying to correct the

[1:25:15] zoning to the property lines and

[1:25:17] straighten them out and we're now we're

[1:25:20] doing that yeah kind of convoluted the

[1:25:21] whole thing to go Mr chairman if I might

[1:25:24] and Steve did the answer is no you

[1:25:27] cannot oh come on what did John answer

[1:25:30] for what

[1:25:33] just was saying that you know we're not

[1:25:34] back to Chuck we're not trying to

[1:25:37] you know discourage anybody from

[1:25:39] building anything it's you know I'll be

[1:25:41] more happy one point is that the

[1:25:44] comprehensive plan is a tool

[1:25:47] it's suggestions and all right yeah it

[1:25:50] could be but there's some big properties

[1:25:52] there too

[1:25:54] and as dick stated you look at them

[1:25:57] individually each one has its merits

[1:26:03] yeah it's kind of a mute argument until

[1:26:05] he actually applies for the rezone

[1:26:08] everybody was trying to look for some

[1:26:10] guidance and we're just confusing him

[1:26:18] my comment was when Steve first

[1:26:21] presented

[1:26:22] it to only mention the 450 feet which is

[1:26:25] why it came out that that was our

[1:26:28] consensus we were in favor of his

[1:26:30] development we thought it fit in with

[1:26:33] our plan and we did say unless new facts

[1:26:36] are presented John so these are new

[1:26:39] facts you don't want the 43a you do want

[1:26:42] the whole parcel of forum foray we're

[1:26:45] considering squaring things off so I

[1:26:48] don't think we're as far apart as okay

[1:26:52] I think you can make your application

[1:26:54] and we'll

[1:26:56] I'll have another say I don't look at it

[1:26:58] anyway

[1:27:00] thank you thank you

[1:27:02] sorry

[1:27:07] to our kind of bicycle pedestrian and

[1:27:09] Recreation plan

[1:27:13] then just finished reading everything

[1:27:15] there is to know

[1:27:17] multiple are coming

[1:27:21] anyway we do have a couple of copies

[1:27:25] and he was interested I believe it's up

[1:27:28] on the web as well

[1:27:30] uh the accounting website

[1:27:39] and it's there for an FYI so we'll do no

[1:27:42] more dork contracts and contract

[1:27:45] approvals

[1:27:46] discussion Mr Whiteman okay I just want

[1:27:50] to bring this up as a discussion item

[1:27:53] um

[1:27:54] based somewhat of my confusion with the actual contracts that we have our

[1:28:00] contract we have with the

[1:28:04] spring green company for landscape

[1:28:07] Services mainly pesticide applications

[1:28:09] to the park I would like to see

[1:28:12] all contracts for services materials

[1:28:15] both private and government vendors

[1:28:18] be presented to the town board for

[1:28:19] approval

[1:28:21] um

[1:28:22] you know and and spelled out I would

[1:28:25] also recommend that when we do

[1:28:29] contract with private vendors

[1:28:32] that we limit those to one year one year

[1:28:35] contracts

[1:28:37] um

[1:28:39] and we we do not do any pay ahead on

[1:28:42] contracted services

[1:28:44] and I'd also like to see maybe some more

[1:28:46] transparency

[1:28:48] and when we we

[1:28:51] request proposals for each contracts

[1:28:54] and we also we do actually do an RFP

[1:28:58] to private vendors on contracts well I

[1:29:02] want you to know that we have

[1:29:03] accomplished that in the past it's not

[1:29:05] anything that's new

[1:29:07] your particular interest is in the

[1:29:10] application and the landscape

[1:29:13] and that's the only one that you brought

[1:29:15] forward to this great so far

[1:29:17] what I've done I've asked are

[1:29:21] clerk to take a look at the number of

[1:29:23] contracts that we have

[1:29:26] not only in the past year but those that

[1:29:29] have been in place

[1:29:31] for the last

[1:29:34] umpteen years

[1:29:35] and I think you're going to be very much

[1:29:37] surprised and knowing that we do have

[1:29:40] contracts that go to about

[1:29:45] number wise

[1:29:51] team we are into I'll just give you a

[1:29:54] couple of

[1:29:56] Animal Control assessor Services audits

[1:29:59] U cable

[1:30:02] Clark Lake Meats

[1:30:04] Clark Lake round

[1:30:06] Clark Lake Dam great clerk treasure is

[1:30:09] under contact

[1:30:11] and Fire Protection the town hall and

[1:30:14] the grounds ball field government

[1:30:16] agencies right I mean we've got them all

[1:30:18] we an intergovernmental I think you know

[1:30:21] just this particular case I mean I think

[1:30:23] it was confusing whether or not we had a

[1:30:25] one-year contract a two-year contract

[1:30:27] and and I think

[1:30:30] if I can stop you

[1:30:32] this has been a moment of contention

[1:30:34] with you since you've joined the group

[1:30:36] and each time you attack it from a

[1:30:39] different

[1:30:41] perspective now if you want to sit down

[1:30:45] and

[1:30:46] go over these contracts you're very much

[1:30:49] entitled to

[1:30:51] any one of these contracts uh you're

[1:30:54] having your own copy if you like or else

[1:30:57] taking a review that was there

[1:31:00] previously you were totally opposed to a

[1:31:02] two-year and when I went to the attorney

[1:31:07] I was told that we are to honor the

[1:31:09] two-year and if we want to do something

[1:31:12] in the future it's fine yeah you know

[1:31:14] that's why we aren't going to throw good

[1:31:16] money after bad because you don't want

[1:31:18] to go to a two-year contract well I I

[1:31:20] think there's a certain amount of risk

[1:31:22] in developing a two-year contract with a

[1:31:24] private vendor

[1:31:26] I mean you're you're uh basically

[1:31:29] Contracting and if something does happen

[1:31:32] at vendor um

[1:31:34] I would much rather prefer a one-year

[1:31:36] contract and then we review it every

[1:31:39] year

[1:31:40] because there's also I mean in this

[1:31:42] particular case I'm not going to debate

[1:31:44] this issue of pesticide applications to

[1:31:46] the town park at this point but I think

[1:31:49] you know it's good that every year we

[1:31:52] bring this subject up because there are

[1:31:54] a lot of concerned individuals

[1:31:56] in the palace basketball

[1:31:59] that made their concerns known to me

[1:32:02] anyhow about this contract and I think

[1:32:06] it's it's

[1:32:07] representing their interests that every

[1:32:10] year we bring this up before the board

[1:32:13] as a one-year contract right eight nine

[1:32:18] years so what I'm saying is none of

[1:32:21] these were executed by the town clerk or

[1:32:23] by me individually

[1:32:25] or by a supervisor we all it all came

[1:32:29] here for right and that's what I'm

[1:32:31] asking for and in this particular case

[1:32:33] I'm asking for

[1:32:34] a renewal on this particular contract uh

[1:32:38] eliminating it to one year and then

[1:32:40] bringing it up for discussion on a

[1:32:42] yearly basis okay we'll share that with

[1:32:45] you and you can have your questions

[1:32:46] ready for us next time all right

[1:32:50] okay we have no other uh

[1:32:53] action that we can take on it because

[1:32:55] it's there for

[1:33:00] didn't really know what you're

[1:33:04] discussion was going to be about

[1:33:10] okay authorization for a payment of the

[1:33:12] February and March 2014 vouchers

[1:33:16] Mills in lieu of the March

[1:33:19] 2014 board meeting

[1:33:22] I need a motion to authorize payment of

[1:33:25] those bills

[1:33:26] move that we authorized payment of the

[1:33:29] February March 23 23rd vouchers built in

[1:33:31] Planes

[1:33:33] this would be only in the event that

[1:33:35] there's no marks meeting

[1:33:37] a second then okay

[1:33:41] so we'll leave it up to the clerk we do

[1:33:43] have we'd have a resolution on a file

[1:33:46] yes we do that's right okay yes for

[1:33:49] timely payment all right any questions

[1:33:50] are coming

[1:33:52] I think two of the supervisors the cat's

[1:33:54] got their times

[1:33:56] okay say what I said two of the

[1:33:59] supervisors can sick second and make

[1:34:01] motions too

[1:34:02] uh all in favor say aye aye opponed

[1:34:07] if we have a resolution on hand do we

[1:34:10] need to bring this up here for you

[1:34:13] the resolutions is for time sensitive

[1:34:17] payments as in the utility bills which

[1:34:19] are usually payable before the next

[1:34:22] board meeting

[1:34:23] so but this would cover all of the bills

[1:34:26] that we incur

[1:34:28] from

[1:34:29] the tonight going forward to the next

[1:34:32] meeting which will be April

[1:34:34] 14. equal our annual meeting is April

[1:34:38] 14th the regular board meeting would be

[1:34:40] April 21st

[1:34:42] obviously we're gonna have a lot of

[1:34:43] bills in that time frame

[1:34:49] I'm with you homeowner will water

[1:34:52] testing program through the University

[1:34:55] of Wisconsin

[1:34:57] Stevens Point

[1:35:01] um

[1:35:04] let's get the death service on the town

[1:35:07] yeah

[1:35:13] all right number five would be the

[1:35:15] notice of the principal and interest

[1:35:16] payments

[1:35:18] and this would be the pfm company

[1:35:20] interest

[1:35:23] um

[1:35:25] note of Interest here is that the two

[1:35:27] checks need to be

[1:35:29] cut this time around it's the interest

[1:35:32] separate of

[1:35:34] the principal is this the first time go

[1:35:36] around on that no our March Debt Service

[1:35:40] payments are always separated principal

[1:35:42] and interest it's interest only in

[1:35:45] September so there again this obviously

[1:35:47] this is one of the bills that you just

[1:35:49] approved payment of it's going to be due

[1:35:51] March 1st

[1:35:52] interest of seven thousand one hundred

[1:35:54] and twenty dollars

[1:35:56] principal of 95 000 and free information

[1:35:58] that'll take us down to a principal

[1:36:00] balance of

[1:36:02] 495 all right so we're we're already uh

[1:36:05] committed on that and there are no no

[1:36:09] action necessary correct we should

[1:36:11] probably start to plan for a mortgage

[1:36:13] burning party five years out get a

[1:36:16] committee going oh sure okay I think it

[1:36:18] would be interesting to know save all

[1:36:20] the paper though

[1:36:22] all this bill is being paid where the

[1:36:25] funds are coming from and

[1:36:29] the the system that has been worked out

[1:36:31] to pay for this building

[1:36:34] as far as using the

[1:36:37] tourism tax dollars

[1:36:43] and we thank you for all your efforts

[1:36:45] and bringing that money actual taxpayers

[1:36:47] of the tonal Sebastopol have not had to

[1:36:50] put any money for for the payment of

[1:36:52] this building at this point

[1:36:56] it was a good decision whoever made that

[1:36:58] to say

[1:37:00] all right number six would be the

[1:37:02] homeowner well water testing program

[1:37:04] through the University of Wisconsin

[1:37:06] Stevens Point only because Linda has

[1:37:08] been involved with this through

[1:37:11] jacksonport and other participating

[1:37:13] townships

[1:37:16] why don't you give us a quick one and

[1:37:18] then Victoria wants to talk on it as

[1:37:19] well okay I'll try to make it quick this

[1:37:21] came before the board last fall October

[1:37:25] um because there were costs involved and

[1:37:28] um

[1:37:29] the Distributing the advertising and

[1:37:31] things like that no action was taken I

[1:37:34] recently had several phone conversations

[1:37:37] and several emails from Jerry viste who

[1:37:41] is the president or chairman of the Door

[1:37:43] County Environmental Council the

[1:37:46] environmental Council has offered to

[1:37:48] cover five hundred dollars for the

[1:37:52] promotion of this program that's

[1:37:54] basically what he said

[1:37:57] um the town of jacksonport

[1:38:00] is most likely proceeding

[1:38:03] um

[1:38:04] the town of Sturgeon Bay I believe their

[1:38:07] board is going to be addressing that

[1:38:08] issue this week

[1:38:10] they like to have about a hundred

[1:38:13] participants between all the

[1:38:15] municipalities that jump on board

[1:38:18] the 2013 participation involved the town

[1:38:22] of Egg Harbor the village of Egg Harbor

[1:38:24] and the town of Bailey's Harbor they had

[1:38:27] 110 participants so they did reach the

[1:38:31] 100 Mark and they did go forward the

[1:38:34] test results are kept confidential

[1:38:39] um to the homeowner however the town

[1:38:40] would receive some mapping as to which

[1:38:44] Wells were tested

[1:38:47] uh the Prices range depending on how

[1:38:50] comprehensive of a test you want it can

[1:38:52] go anywhere from forty nine dollars to a

[1:38:55] hundred and ten dollars for the full

[1:38:58] package

[1:38:59] as far as promoting in our local media

[1:39:03] in the newspapers

[1:39:05] costs could run I did get some estimates

[1:39:08] for a quarter page black and white ad

[1:39:12] 285 dollars

[1:39:15] I'm sorry 295 dollars in one publication

[1:39:18] two hundred dollars in another

[1:39:20] publication if we can jump on board and

[1:39:22] get Jackson port in Sturgeon Bay we just

[1:39:25] run one ad

[1:39:27] our cost would be covered

[1:39:31] um the environmental Council jury Vista

[1:39:34] would be happy to come out and do a

[1:39:35] presentation if you like there are other

[1:39:39] water tests

[1:39:42] um kits and outfits that will test your

[1:39:45] water Door County sanitarians department

[1:39:46] will test it from waste water will test

[1:39:49] it there's a lab in Luxembourg that will

[1:39:52] test it and Mr lutson also gave me the

[1:39:56] website of an outfit that will test

[1:39:58] again Prices range how comprehensive a

[1:40:02] test you want so that's sort of it in a

[1:40:04] nutshell the testing would take place in

[1:40:07] July or August the homeowner would need

[1:40:10] to come to the town hall town hall or

[1:40:13] whatever Arrangements we decide to make

[1:40:15] you need to get a sample bottle you need

[1:40:17] to have it back to the town hall or the

[1:40:20] collecting station on a dates for

[1:40:23] specific and that's mostly likely going

[1:40:25] to be a Sunday so that sample needs to

[1:40:28] be here on Sunday it needs to be

[1:40:29] delivered to Stevens Point on Monday

[1:40:34] no deviation from that schedule

[1:40:38] and that's all I know all right that was

[1:40:40] the cost that uh

[1:40:43] what do we have for a cost to do this uh

[1:40:46] the total it can range depending on what

[1:40:48] you want tested I did look at it and

[1:40:52] there are like

[1:40:53] oh there's got to be like 20 elements

[1:40:55] here that they would test for

[1:40:57] and depending on what package you choose

[1:41:00] it's anywhere between forty nine dollars

[1:41:02] and one hundred and ten dollars

[1:41:06] there were three tests

[1:41:09] first one was 49 that's the homeowner's

[1:41:12] package test for Chloroform bacteria

[1:41:15] nitrates chlorine hardness alkalinity

[1:41:18] and pH

[1:41:19] the metals package test is 42 additional

[1:41:24] tests for arsenic lead copper iron zinc

[1:41:28] calcium magnesium

[1:41:30] magnetum sodium potassium

[1:41:35] and sulfates

[1:41:36] and then the dact screen package

[1:41:40] test for the breakdown of the components

[1:41:45] that's atrophene and pesticides another

[1:41:48] twenty seven dollars

[1:41:50] if you took all three packages together

[1:41:52] you paid 110.

[1:41:57] dependent on what you want to have

[1:41:59] accomplished

[1:42:00] and the other sites that Linda

[1:42:04] give you as far as he from Luxembourg

[1:42:07] and

[1:42:09] uh Mr lutzen with the

[1:42:12] h2o6 was it

[1:42:16] they're down in the area of 25 dollars

[1:42:19] Victoria had asked permission to speak

[1:42:22] on this so

[1:42:28] express my support of the homeowner well

[1:42:30] water testing program we test our water

[1:42:33] every year on I live on Cherry Road and

[1:42:37] it would cost us probably uh

[1:42:42] 230 dollars to accomplish the tests that

[1:42:47] they have if you add the homeowners and

[1:42:49] the medals packaged together if you add

[1:42:52] the pesticide test it would be another

[1:42:55] it would bring it up to 550 dollars we

[1:42:58] use clean water testing in Appleton and

[1:43:01] have used them for many years so my

[1:43:05] husband and I consider this a real value

[1:43:07] for our dollar and we'd like to see the

[1:43:11] town participate and if we can't

[1:43:13] participate here we were going to ask

[1:43:15] jacksonport if we could participate with

[1:43:18] them okay Mr Luton uh I take my

[1:43:23] test up to eat from water testing and it

[1:43:27] cost you twenty three dollars

[1:43:29] for it one test

[1:43:31] now in the meantime I do take my own

[1:43:36] home well test I get these through the

[1:43:39] internet

[1:43:41] and these these tests cost

[1:43:44] around twenty three dollars but you get

[1:43:47] two tests out of one little kit

[1:43:52] so you can you can get or you can split

[1:43:54] your test up and do an offer

[1:43:57] what exactly are you testing for pardon

[1:44:00] what are you testing for I get I believe

[1:44:03] it's eight it might be ten but I I

[1:44:06] believe it's eight tests and it tests

[1:44:09] all your all your uh main tests that you

[1:44:12] have to take

[1:44:14] I could have brought it along I don't

[1:44:16] remember them all but I mean I do this

[1:44:19] all year long and

[1:44:21] it pays to test your wealth

[1:44:24] but I don't really believe the town

[1:44:26] board or the township should get

[1:44:28] involved in going through water testing

[1:44:31] for people they can do this this is not

[1:44:34] anything that we would do

[1:44:37] we would go with the Door County

[1:44:42] dcec whichever that is environmental

[1:44:46] Council there they would make 500

[1:44:49] available

[1:44:51] for us to bring that to the attention in

[1:44:53] the media

[1:44:54] to promote it but the actual testing

[1:44:57] that you want to have accomplished would

[1:45:00] be up to you or me or anyone else we

[1:45:03] aren't going to use any County or Tunnel

[1:45:05] right the package and this yeah the

[1:45:08] package they represent that they present

[1:45:10] here is definitely a good deal now the atropine

[1:45:16] acetylcholine inhibitor one really only

[1:45:20] targets a small group of pesticides

[1:45:23] insecticides so

[1:45:26] whether or not you know that's worth the

[1:45:28] extra 27 dollars probably not most

[1:45:31] pesticide tests are very specific as to

[1:45:34] the pesticide that you're looking for so

[1:45:36] this is kind of a general

[1:45:38] for one definite group of insecticides

[1:45:41] so but the other tests yes I mean keep

[1:45:44] in mind that all these elements are

[1:45:46] background elements in the soil right

[1:45:48] now

[1:45:48] so I mean you're always going to get a

[1:45:50] detect at a certain level for a lot of

[1:45:53] these things so

[1:45:59] this place per year because of

[1:46:01] commercial life I'll rent the E coli

[1:46:04] test for me we just don't pop this being

[1:46:08] a public building we test quarterly Jim

[1:46:12] yeah how many tests four quarterly

[1:46:15] oh yeah okay

[1:46:18] um these samples go to Steven's Point

[1:46:20] and I had suggested to Mr vistie because

[1:46:24] there are so many people concerned with

[1:46:26] their well water why don't they get a

[1:46:28] local effort going between the

[1:46:31] sanitaries office instead of

[1:46:34] you know giving the University students

[1:46:36] summertime work why not

[1:46:43] what's causing the problem here in the

[1:46:45] high school is equally

[1:46:49] it's a group of a group of bacteria in

[1:46:53] the E coli genus and species E coli okay

[1:46:56] there are specific strains within that species that are Marshall we're

[1:47:02] more concerned with than others but when

[1:47:04] they test for coliform bacteria they're

[1:47:06] testing for a group of bacteria right

[1:47:09] doctor

[1:47:10] yes and that's what I was going to ask

[1:47:12] you otherwise big concern would be

[1:47:14] arsenic or heavy metals indoor County my

[1:47:18] question is after you test your wells

[1:47:21] and you have then just Mr roots in a new

[1:47:23] victory what do you do if you get a red

[1:47:25] flag if you retest well last year we did

[1:47:28] get a red flag right I won't go into all

[1:47:30] it's all confidential they aren't going

[1:47:32] to tell us about it I mean but they

[1:47:34] don't have to but you didn't or

[1:47:36] something twice

[1:47:38] and are using some meditation and I'm

[1:47:42] looking for more gotcha

[1:47:45] okay so the matter before us is whether

[1:47:48] or not we want to accept their 500

[1:47:50] dollars

[1:47:51] I think the program has a good program

[1:47:53] and anytime you can save our

[1:47:55] constituents money by getting a test for

[1:47:57] them at a at a reduced rate it's a great

[1:48:00] deal and the water concerns are a big

[1:48:02] problem here

[1:48:03] my only concern with this program is

[1:48:06] where do we find a volunteer who is

[1:48:08] willing to spend their Sunday sitting

[1:48:10] here at the Town Hall collecting these

[1:48:12] samples and driving them down to Stevens

[1:48:14] Point for Monday morning

[1:48:18] the program was presented us no cost to

[1:48:22] the town

[1:48:23] yet we're responsible for collecting the

[1:48:26] sample passing these sample bottles out

[1:48:28] in the first place and then collecting

[1:48:30] them and transporting them

[1:48:33] so uh I mean if we talked earlier that any further

[1:48:38] expense on projects like this or that we

[1:48:41] should be looking for Grant dollars or

[1:48:44] whatever to help support these programs

[1:48:47] this is one item that is not in our

[1:48:49] budget for the year

[1:48:52] costs may not be that high but it's just

[1:48:55] one thing that's not there at this point

[1:48:57] so um

[1:48:59] I have one comment my concern is that

[1:49:03] it's not a 24-hour sample

[1:49:07] I mean the instructions are very clear

[1:49:09] here when we draw the water sample here

[1:49:11] it has to be at that lab within 24 hours

[1:49:14] my only concern is that okay fine you

[1:49:18] came and you picked up a bottle whenever

[1:49:20] and did you draw that water sample

[1:49:24] on Sunday afternoon so that when it gets

[1:49:27] to Stevens Point on Monday morning or

[1:49:29] Monday afternoon is it within the 24

[1:49:31] hour period if it's longer than that

[1:49:34] something could grow in that sample and

[1:49:37] then you're not really getting a True

[1:49:39] Result that would be my only concern

[1:49:42] when you take our sample does it have to

[1:49:44] be refrigerated to

[1:49:46] or how do you no a regular water sample

[1:49:49] does not have to be refrigerated a

[1:49:51] nitrate or nitrite sample does have to

[1:49:54] be on on um those dry ice because it's

[1:49:59] just in an insulated container and it's

[1:50:01] uh sterile and then the same day we take

[1:50:03] it and we take it right down to the post

[1:50:05] office and I mean it's overnight the

[1:50:07] onus the onus would be on the property

[1:50:09] owner and make sure that sample

[1:50:11] is taken when you said you took it

[1:50:14] because you otherwise you may not be

[1:50:16] getting a true wrist I'll be here on

[1:50:18] Sunday to collect those

[1:50:20] no but it sounds uh I mean Jerry's

[1:50:23] letter

[1:50:24] indicates not only a five hundred

[1:50:26] dollars to cover the promotional cost

[1:50:29] but that sounds like they our County

[1:50:32] Environmental Council would assist yeah

[1:50:35] they'll get the volunteers yeah I I I

[1:50:38] just think it's an opportunity you know and I I

[1:50:43] can't see a reason why we wouldn't

[1:50:45] participate especially when all our

[1:50:47] costs are basically going to be covered

[1:50:48] an environmental council is willing to

[1:50:52] become actively involved in it

[1:50:56] so they would take it to Stevens Point

[1:50:58] then they would see that we transported

[1:51:00] it sounds like they're committed to this

[1:51:02] program why don't we why don't we do it

[1:51:04] this way as long as you're into this

[1:51:05] kind of thing anyway

[1:51:07] uh why don't we so are interested right

[1:51:10] the 500 won't make you the point person

[1:51:13] to get her in motion but I would I would

[1:51:17] move there we uh the Sebastopol Town

[1:51:20] Thomas basketball participates in the

[1:51:23] well-watered sampling as outlined by the

[1:51:25] Dark County Environmental Council yeah

[1:51:27] pretty long there already okay we accept

[1:51:30] the 500 as the cover promotional costs

[1:51:35] and okay

[1:51:40] do you think that's too much no that's

[1:51:42] all right no I have it on you you forgot

[1:51:43] to add and

[1:51:45] Mr Weidman would be the point man to get

[1:51:47] it and that could be that could be

[1:51:49] determined

[1:51:56] with the understanding that you're going

[1:51:57] to bury the participant I'll second

[1:51:59] right

[1:52:03] you don't have to be the collector to

[1:52:05] hear an amendment to that motion yeah

[1:52:08] I'd be willing to assist in the uh

[1:52:13] any other discussion comment question

[1:52:17] do we need to send Mr Vista a letter or

[1:52:19] what do we do here first we should vote

[1:52:21] on it maybe I'm asking what we're going

[1:52:24] to do first

[1:52:26] okay if if you have test your wells and

[1:52:30] you find out what it was bad it is bad

[1:52:34] what's a remedy

[1:52:45] yeah our involvement is only on the fact

[1:52:48] we're advertising we're going to do the

[1:52:50] 500 bucks

[1:52:51] do the advertising and let everybody

[1:52:55] know it's there

[1:52:56] and if you want to participate fine

[1:53:00] let's make sure that we're only the

[1:53:02] vehicle and not the response yeah

[1:53:04] they're sitting in the front doorstep

[1:53:05] that go bad

[1:53:09] okay yeah especially if it's July or any

[1:53:11] other question

[1:53:14] all in favor of signify for saying that

[1:53:16] all right opposed

[1:53:18] okay

[1:53:21] Roblox building claims uh January 21

[1:53:25] through

[1:53:28] 2 24 looks like it should be

[1:53:32] 2014 through

[1:53:36] have a motion to that effect

[1:53:40] move that we approved vouchers bills and

[1:53:42] claims

[1:53:43] second

[1:53:46] you have any questions on any of them

[1:53:49] all I pay for signify for saying hi all

[1:53:51] right

[1:53:53] resolution number seven supplement for

[1:53:56] temporary vacancies of

[1:53:59] the elected officials I see were doing a

[1:54:03] supplement to the

[1:54:05] 2013 Town

[1:54:15] can I address it or

[1:54:17] believe that the list of names we had

[1:54:19] that were running shortly I know I was

[1:54:23] bragging to all the other towns like we

[1:54:25] have over 20 people on our polar worker

[1:54:28] list between the party and our

[1:54:30] unaffiliated however April 1st due to

[1:54:35] candidates

[1:54:37] or spouses of candidates and ethicals

[1:54:40] and principals and all that and

[1:54:42] vacations

[1:54:43] and health problems

[1:54:46] I'm down to just nine people

[1:54:49] so I did talk to each of the people on

[1:54:53] this supplemental list

[1:54:56] if need be if I need to go to them

[1:54:59] they are willing to work

[1:55:01] so by Statute I would have to amend our

[1:55:06] poll worker list so that is what this

[1:55:09] supplement to the resolution does

[1:55:11] okay we run a background check on one of

[1:55:14] these people yeah is this a one-time

[1:55:18] correct this is a one this is a one-time

[1:55:22] request when you have a temporary

[1:55:24] vacancy for an election it is a

[1:55:27] temporary filling of those vacancies so

[1:55:30] one time April 1st only

[1:55:32] I think everybody in the town's on the

[1:55:34] list something I would move that we

[1:55:36] approve resolution number seven 2013 TV

[1:55:40] I hope there did all in favor say hi all

[1:55:42] right

[1:55:44] Frozen Let's carry

[1:55:47] correspondence part of the packet

[1:55:49] indicates that

[1:55:52] increase cable thefts penalties in

[1:55:55] Wisconsin Door County highways

[1:55:59] spreadsheet listing the private drives

[1:56:01] that had been plowed previously

[1:56:05] so just is that can I question the

[1:56:07] following okay all right is that just

[1:56:10] November and December the appears in no

[1:56:13] that is uh all of 2013.

[1:56:16] oh January December yeah right January

[1:56:20] through December

[1:56:22] 2013. yes okay thank you okay and the

[1:56:26] other would be for the 2012 calendar

[1:56:28] year

[1:56:31] the department of administration

[1:56:33] payments for municipal services

[1:56:37] and payment and lieu of tax

[1:56:41] Emerald Wisconsin Emerald Ash border

[1:56:45] programs

[1:56:47] and two fire reports

[1:56:51] January Fire Department in December and

[1:56:54] Judas tonight should have been another

[1:56:57] sheet to December of 2013.

[1:57:02] as well we do have

[1:57:05] utility updates there will be a

[1:57:07] recycling day Sturgeon Bay Utilities

[1:57:13] and the price list on the bottom if you

[1:57:16] wish to bring your product there

[1:57:19] also hotline Digger hotline

[1:57:23] meeting and a

[1:57:27] looks like you even get a free meal John

[1:57:29] if you want to go oh breakfast lunch and

[1:57:31] dinner stay all day Denmark or Marinette

[1:57:43] there that we need to worry about

[1:57:47] sir the clerk's going to be on vacation

[1:57:50] for March 6th through the 13th what

[1:57:54] we're all going to get a card because is

[1:57:56] that how that works

[1:57:58] at any time to write cards

[1:58:00] okay the next supervisor meeting will

[1:58:03] really be at the call of the chair if in

[1:58:06] the event there's need for one otherwise

[1:58:08] we'll

[1:58:09] all right not have one spring election

[1:58:12] is April 1st

[1:58:15] and do we have any agenda items for the

[1:58:18] next meeting

[1:58:20] I'd like to see if we couldn't get the

[1:58:22] fire chief erlash to

[1:58:25] do some kind of a community presentation

[1:58:27] on fire alarms carbon monoxide alarms

[1:58:31] and the meaning of the signal in which

[1:58:34] they put out

[1:58:35] seems that we have an awful lot of false

[1:58:38] alarms because the battery is dying in

[1:58:41] this machine and it just beep beep beep

[1:58:44] it's not sending off the actual warning

[1:58:46] signal but people still call the fire

[1:58:48] department

[1:58:50] I mean a little education might help

[1:58:53] save some dollars on the fire

[1:58:55] department's end

[1:58:57] and it'd be a good program for them to

[1:58:59] put all of them

[1:59:01] I do know that they do that so sometimes

[1:59:04] those false alarms too are the ones that

[1:59:07] have the automatic yeah they're people come in and they type the wrong

[1:59:12] code or the kids are there and they

[1:59:13] don't have the right code to cancel so

[1:59:15] they're you know

[1:59:17] but as you read the report it seems like

[1:59:19] there's an awful lot of them they're smoke detector wasn't working or

[1:59:22] the battery was dead and I was sending

[1:59:24] out a signal to replace it well correct

[1:59:27] it's just a little you know something

[1:59:29] they could do Tim is always saying they

[1:59:32] have nothing to do anyway so give them

[1:59:34] an opportunity we'll do it I don't know

[1:59:38] it'll probably have to be after uh we

[1:59:41] could use the town hall here maybe

[1:59:45] um maybe the annual meeting would be a

[1:59:47] good time

[1:59:49] draw the people here

[1:59:52] all right

[1:59:54] okay one uh one item of

[1:59:57] interest not good news

[2:00:01] for those of you who knew our previous

[2:00:03] clerk treasurer

[2:00:06] serve their town from

[2:00:09] 1996 came aboard as our treasurer

[2:00:14] and then

[2:00:16] elevated and elected to the position of

[2:00:18] clerk treasurer

[2:00:20] in April of 1997 and served through

[2:00:24] March

[2:00:25] of 2001.

[2:00:28] Carrie sharpener by name at the age of

[2:00:30] 57 years

[2:00:33] departed our company over the weekend

[2:00:37] you uh

[2:00:39] do you remember

[2:00:41] her and even if you don't remember her

[2:00:44] keep

[2:00:46] the family in in your thoughts in

[2:00:49] prayers and her son was an employee that

[2:00:52] don't parked for a number of years

[2:00:53] correct as well

[2:00:56] in between she and her husband Frank

[2:00:59] they did a lot for the town so

[2:01:04] her father was also on the board for

[2:01:06] many years

[2:01:07] Jerry Columbus Jerry Colombo was a

[2:01:09] father

[2:01:10] okay do we have anything is there going

[2:01:12] to be a service up here or uh I haven't

[2:01:16] heard the details yet today I kind of

[2:01:18] watched here in Paul I heard that but I

[2:01:20] don't recall I think it's tomorrow all

[2:01:22] right tomorrow or Wednesday

[2:01:27] okay

[2:01:28] with that sad news

[2:01:30] a motion to adjourn would be in order

[2:01:35] it's like a motion made in second end to

[2:01:38] adjournal in favor sign I opposed

Sevastopol (WI) Board of Supervisors

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