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[2:34] Thank you for joining us in the leadership of the board. We're going to show it at this time in the comments. May the order. Please join me for fortunately. Let me just do the flag of the United States and America. I'm going to give you a little bit of distance. One nation under that, and you can just go to the other side.
[3:04] Mayor DeBulls, just use Amos, Fabia, here, Brockman, Chapman, Luciano, and Southridge here.
[3:13] I'm
[3:19] going to move on to our city.
[3:20] Section 90, city of Washington,
[3:21] we're addressing the report.
[3:29] Sir, your just state your name for that.
[3:31] My name is Danny Easing.
[3:35] I live in 613 Harris Lane in Ecuador and Charlotte.
[3:40] My hair tonight, the mayor board aware of the non-going behavior
[3:47] from my neighbor, 622 Harris Lane.
[3:51] His name is Philippe Pranchini.
[3:55] Now my family and I believe constitute a rascal,
[4:01] intimidation,
[4:03] and safety concerns on 82 years old.
[4:07] And I have one.
[4:08] These issues have been occurring for years,
[4:11] escalating recently to a point that is extremely successful.
[4:18] family, stressful and concerning for all of us in the neighborhood.
[4:25] Well, Horses has now been run into property which does not, I believe, meet village rules
[4:34] and zoning requirements.
[4:37] This is yet another example of the behavior that disrespects community standards that
[4:43] concern for my neighborhood.
[4:48] I've got some examples of my point behavior issues. One issue
[4:56] issue we have is parking vehicles in front of our car.
[5:05] On fire from this old residence, his residence is over a blast away and he chooses to park his vehicles in front of my home and my neighbor's home.
[5:20] It constricts when it back out, it's a great difficult to see.
[5:26] He has a couple of years from one is a big drum truck
[5:33] and another one is a van.
[5:36] We contact the police because this appears to be intentional harassment.
[5:46] The other day, he was riding a bike
[5:49] through the neighborhood in an unsafe and appropriate way.
[5:57] On sidewalks, through yards, including yards and grass around the way.
[6:06] When I asked him to keep up with my yard,
[6:13] I have a strengthen system of my yard.
[6:16] I asked him to keep his son, he'd bike off from my arm, my yard, he responded, I can
[6:23] do whatever I want, with the camera for a while.
[6:29] I asked him to turn the camera off and he decided that he said he didn't have to.
[6:37] He has a big lawnmower, one of these lawnmowers that you ride, and he continually drives the
[6:46] one more two-hour yard to the lake area, leaving marks that do come off, do not come off,
[6:54] he actually drove his one more two-mile new concrete partway and put some black marks in
[7:03] And he's riding around the neighborhood.
[7:09] Everybody
[7:14] probably knows that he has decided to
[7:23] do his part-way through the trees
[7:30] and he knows about the part-way and we've asked him to have the part-way drilled in and nothing's been done.
[7:43] The latest thing is he's wandering through the neighborhood right near our home because
[7:51] of this.
[7:52] I have sold 4 cameras around my property, the frequently videos and we feel this behavior
[8:00] is stocking and intimidation.
[8:04] Throughout the end to this he repeatedly states that he can do what everyone does actually make us unsafe.
[8:12] In our own neighborhood this is not normal. The behavior has gone far too long.
[8:19] My family and others in the neighborhood are asking the board to formally acknowledge these concerns,
[8:26] document them and advise us what stuff can be taken to address this behavior.
[8:33] and including the presence of this force, which is believed, I believe, not prevented under
[8:40] bill and clause.
[8:43] I hope we can resolve this issue safely.
[8:47] Thank you for your time.
[8:49] Thank you, sir.
[8:50] May
[8:55] I ask what should we address the board?
[8:57] Yes, sir.
[8:58] Thank you.
[8:58] It's time to
[9:03] be forced to accommodate me.
[9:04] Could you state your name for the record?
[9:11] So he has heard a lot about me writing to people, you are the head of the cameras when you launch those false accusations. I think it's very important to put your chief of police to work in your office.
[9:24] okay? I partly tried to throw their house because they started complaining. I've
[9:30] been in my home for 13 years. I've wanted to try to, the year I left, to go to
[9:36] Chicago, it was between three, maybe two, actually, about the year after.
[9:42] When I
[9:42] part, I was here on the 25th in the morning, I spoke to Mr. Cleveland, and I spoke to
[9:50] your police officer, okay. So in that home I went to take a picture of you at
[9:58] That's outside of the water.
[10:00] As I've been telling you to fix it, and we take the pictures of the training we're upon. There's been a flood for a long time. As I'm part of the New York Junior Crangle, which is this man's, came out and started shooting golf balls at my truck. Don't you get your F-truck? I'm driving. Well, I'm recording you the next day. Okay? He starts shooting golf balls at my truck, and they come to stop him. Okay? I call the cops. This bravarado shows up giving him high-pies and high knuckles. Okay?
[10:29] So then I came to you meeting late at night, then I went home looking to talk to one of the neighbors, because they had a lynch mark before.
[10:40] Since they, I'm going to show them...
[10:43] Adjust the board surface.
[10:44] Okay?
[10:44] Keep your college task towards me.
[10:46] I'm keeping the video.
[10:47] Okay, look at it.
[10:47] You need to learn.
[10:49] Oh, okay.
[10:50] You need to wrap the meat forward.
[10:52] Mr. Chapman, you need to wrap the meat forward.
[10:54] And so, I'm going to wrap the meat forward.
[10:56] And the woman, you cannot do that.
[10:57] Okay, you cannot and you will be here. I'm so waiting for it. I'll be going from the
[11:03] lesson. Okay, you realize as they told you the other day, you're pushing and you think that
[11:09] we're referring from profanities. There's not profanities. Okay. So, you didn't like it
[11:14] because I referred to certain of your employees as a maggots. When they come in for
[11:18] actually, he makes statements about your sidewalk. He didn't let him know about that sidewalk.
[11:25] because Mr. Crandall blew the dog whistle and Mr. Stereoli and Mr. Stereoli came and grabbed
[11:32] at my house and then he got approved from your department heads, the heads. That's my
[11:40] guess. I was heading in with him to tell this man that he'll be knowing the Department
[11:44] of Human Rights and how their housing and soon the Department of Justice will be investigating
[11:49] that horse I have in my house is a horse, it's a servicent, okay?
[11:55] I've been told by people that I cannot walk my horse
[11:58] under sidewalk, I cannot walk my horse under the right of me.
[12:03] Somebody tell this people who owns it, but I've been asking you, who owns it?
[12:08] I don't know, right away, who owns it, okay?
[12:10] You need to tell this people who owns it, okay?
[12:12] I pay taxes just as much as they should, it's not more.
[12:15] Now tell, show you his video cameras when you come here and launch this kind of ads, okay.
[12:21] You know what that amounts to, and you don't like that word, okay.
[12:26] So, it's very important if you tell your officers that they, Mr. Crenton, have a hard time,
[12:32] but what is that that's actually up to me.
[12:35] I've parked five blocks away, six blocks away from his house, and my street, we live up to
[12:41] He decided to do a 911 call to do a post police report, because there's a suspicion, dangerous,
[12:47] handicap, 100% disabled individual.
[12:50] Partly, as a way from his home, then he goes and I can have him driving for a whole hour back
[12:56] and for him to leave his house.
[12:57] There's an act.
[12:59] From my home, I went to Menars to do something, came back home, and he was in his driving,
[13:04] so I went around and parked waiting for somebody else.
[13:06] He was going to have power, okay?
[13:10] You have your whole police department over there, okay?
[13:14] For these dangerous men, dangerous men with a camera, okay?
[13:20] Obviously, he's not subtracting, he's out there making all these straps
[13:23] and I told him where to go.
[13:25] A lot of pretend movies, okay?
[13:27] So for you guys, it's not good that I say shit,
[13:30] when you're fully fed.
[13:31] And he was praying in the time, he was breaking up my face.
[13:36] He called me a fucking brutal, and that's when he called me.
[13:40] I'm telling you, I'm explaining, okay?
[13:42] Then you, police officer, time's over to tell you,
[13:44] oh, that's free speech.
[13:46] So I told them that I can call you a fucking pig.
[13:48] Mr. Franchini.
[13:49] Mr. Franchini, I'm just explaining.
[13:51] Profality of that, nature's not gonna be tolerated, okay.
[13:54] And I'm just explaining what he said.
[13:56] So that's free speech for your employees
[13:58] to call me on that, whatever.
[13:59] But it's not okay for me and to come and explain to you. We know, okay, I'm explaining. I'm not holding your hand, whatever.
[14:07] Okay, because if you always are telling me, he goes under the floor before the speech.
[14:12] Okay, so you need to wrap it up. Sorry, you're right.
[14:14] Five minutes. Okay, so let's get it together.
[14:18] Tell this man, both of them, to show you their truth.
[14:21] The board earners get a lot more base on the VR, okay?
[14:26] Next thing they're going to say, my force is to earn.
[14:28] It's a initial force.
[14:29] It's approved by the third government.
[14:32] Okay, under ATA, you need to pay accommodation.
[14:36] That force will be singing here next to me as soon as he gets finished training.
[14:40] Okay, I'm waiting for his diapers and we start pooping.
[14:43] Don't start learning because he could be needless pooping.
[14:46] Okay, so thank you for your time.
[14:48] and so much that I come here, gathering your evidence, your information, okay, send
[14:55] your police officers to some productive work.
[14:57] It needs somebody's filing course.
[15:00] Fourth, please be forth, do what you have to do. Okay. Thank you for your time, sir. Thank you.
[15:07] Anybody else wishing you address the billers board?
[15:13] Seeing none of the movements of the meetings, consented, agenda item number one is approval of the regular board meeting, minutes from August 25th, 2026. Item two will be approval of the committee, the whole meeting, minutes from August 25th, 2026. Item number three will be approval of the committee.
[15:33] on the amount of $470,843.8 cents, item 4 is a total of a payment amount of $27,816 to any
[15:43] substance for the valve assessment exercising program, item 5 is a total of a payment amount
[15:49] of $709,703.12, such the Joseph J. Henderson Sons for the pumping station and the water and
[15:56] receiving reservoir, items six of the approval of babymouth 294, 580, 133 cents to Austin
[16:04] Tower of Construction for the 2026 NIT Resurfacing Project, and finally item number 7 is a
[16:11] approval of payment amount of 530, 795, 5 cents to get construction for the rural road,
[16:49] We do have a constitution week proclamation, part
[16:59] of that, a lot of us really know that you received prior to?
[17:03] Yes, thank you.
[17:03] Okay, thank you.
[17:06] A constitution week, September 17th, through September 23rd, 2026.
[17:12] Whereas, it is the privilege and duty of the Americans to be able to commemorate the 239th anniversary of the signing of the Constitution of the United States of America
[17:20] with the corporate ceremonies and activities and we're as public law 915 guarantees the
[17:26] issuing of the final missions each year by the President of the United States of America
[17:30] that's a year in December 17th through the 23rd Constitution.
[17:34] Now, therefore, I pledge even more by virtue of the authority vested in me as the President
[17:38] of the Red Bull to shoreward in the state of Illinois, to be here by proclaim this week's
[17:42] December 17th through the 23rd, 2026, as Constitutional.
[17:47] And our all citizens have to study the Constitution.
[17:49] We've looked at the privilege of being in America
[17:51] with all rights and responsibilities
[17:54] which that privilege involves.
[17:55] And witness thereof, I have here too,
[17:58] some hand calls in the seal of the village
[18:00] and we have fixed on this eighth day of September,
[18:02] in the order of 2026.
[18:05] And we do have a signed proclamation.
[18:08] We do have some more presentations here.
[18:15] Any here?
[18:16] Any here?
[18:17] We have here about every year.
[18:19] That's what it is.
[18:21] Right before Constitutions Meet, we are from the EAR.
[18:26] We have the resolution.
[18:29] As before, I'm calling her pink.
[18:32] This is Elizabeth Pelosi.
[18:34] She's got a bad voice.
[18:35] She will just smile.
[18:39] She is also a member of D.A.R. and to Mayor Jevold and others of the Shorwood Village.
[18:48] Thank you very much for allowing us to come before you tonight to receive this congratulations.
[18:55] As the Mayor stated, the Constitution is from September 17th and the 23rd.
[19:02] And it is important to make it because we'd like to let people know how important the Constitution is, especially for children.
[19:13] We've learned about the Constitution in May 3rd Illinois as I understand.
[19:18] And we, members of the D.I.R., we are, we're building for a school, a segment school within, totally up, every year.
[19:30] And we give them a book on the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and about our founding fathers.
[19:36] And so another guy that I am dressed up in, one of the dresses with the hat and the long
[19:43] dresses.
[19:45] Tell them all about our money fathers.
[19:48] I'm trying to relate them to their lives.
[19:51] You can do this right before they take their bus to the test.
[19:55] So if you look at that helps them.
[19:58] So, it's just like...
[20:01] The purpose of mission of the TKR is to perpetuate the memory and spirit of the men and women who achieved
[20:08] from American independence in 1776, almost four hundred and fifty years ago. To that end, we promote education
[20:16] of the Constitutionized School to decide, as I explained, by courage and same halls. And we have a poster that
[20:25] to take to the schools, and it has a declaration of independence on it.
[20:30] As Abraham Lincoln said at the end of the Civil War, quote,
[20:34] our liberty, our safety depends on preserving the Constitution of the United States
[20:40] as our fathers made it in violate.
[20:44] The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts,
[20:49] now to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow that and overthrow the Constitution.
[20:55] Thank you very much.
[20:58] Thank you very much. No, thank you. Thanks for what you're doing with the schools and continue to help educate the youth.
[21:06] Thank you.
[21:10] Okay, as we move forward into the
[21:13] in order of business is the 7-1, will be a consideration for approval of an ordinance
[21:17] amendment.
[21:18] I will just show our code of ordinances with respect to water meters.
[21:21] This item is up for a second read, over to Ms. Berkold with finance.
[21:26] Thank you, Mayor.
[21:27] This is the second read of an ordinance that we brought forward to clarify the diligence
[21:34] intention for the property owner to fare responsibility for the cost of meter replacement when the
[21:41] meter is damaged, or found in operable prior to the end of its natural life cycle.
[21:50] I do want to be clear that this does not include instances of meters hampering or deliberate
[21:56] misuse, or when the meter is faulty.
[22:03] We've got sections of the code that identify how those actions go forward.
[22:08] word, this is exclusively four times when a meter is damaged, most often ensure what
[22:13] that occurs in the winter months when the home is not properly heated and the meter freezes
[22:18] and is no longer available. Be happy to take any questions.
[22:24] Yes. I had one question and reading it, I wasn't sure. This does not include wear and
[22:32] here. If it's normal wear and tear, the resident would still be responsible to pay for a meter.
[22:41] No, normal wear and tear, if the meter is no longer working, the village replaces the
[22:49] meters when they when they wear out naturally about a 15-year cycle in the
[22:57] rail. So wear and tear is not a vision that would they would be very have to pay
[23:05] for. No.
[23:09] Any else have any questions on us?
[23:14] It's not. I could take a motion to
[23:15] approve the ordinance. I'll make a motion for the approval of an ordinance
[23:20] amending the village of Shorewood code of ordinances with respect to water
[23:23] second motion by trusty sulfur it's seconded by trusty badiac roll call please
[23:29] Brockman yes yes yes yes okay I have number one's been approved moving on to
[23:39] business at number two would be a consideration of an ordinance granting a
[23:43] zoning map amendment to the B3 zoning district for short north point north lot
[23:48] this item is up for first read trustee Brockman and his ankle okay thank you mayor we did
[23:55] hold the public hearing on this agenda item at our last meeting no one spoke for against the
[24:04] project or the ordinance from the public and it comes here with a 50 vote of approval and
[24:13] And Natalie, you gave us some of the finer details, please.
[24:17] Certainly.
[24:18] The project we're talking about is, so
[24:26] the project we're looking at today is the Northern
[24:28] most property in the Dolce Shore Ward along 59, so it's just south of the Bell Tire, which
[24:34] is actually in Joliette, and kind of north of that area where we have Portillo's Brayford
[24:38] Cabinet Enterprise.
[24:40] The property was actually developed in Will County in an incorporated zoning, but was then
[24:45] annexed to the village.
[24:47] So it has a mix of mostly, how to mix the mostly industrial auto uses at that time.
[24:52] The village zoned it before, that whole area, and it's kind of ping pong back and forth.
[24:58] They've asked for several...
[25:00] Resonings to accommodate various uses over time. So we're coming forward to you today for
[25:06] rezoning requests for B3, but we anticipate coming forward in the next several months to
[25:11] request not just to rezoning the whole property, but also a PUD to accommodate some of the unique
[25:15] uses. So anyways, long story short, this is the property along the north side in the black
[25:20] dots. The entirety of the north lot, there's a building and the redevelopment property where
[25:27] the old dot motor works was. They are looking to lease it to service one and to dynamic
[25:33] sector systems, dynamic sector services which you're going to hear conditional use for
[25:38] in a little bit. And we feel that the B3 zoning would be more appropriate on this property
[25:44] given that it's longer commercial corridor. These are the mixes uses there and this is their
[25:49] of some survey that shows the general outline of the law it would be the north half.
[25:56] Do you have any questions? The applicant wasn't able to make it today but I'm
[26:01] happy to answer any questions I can or if you'd like to pass on the first
[26:04] reading, wait till next time, that would be fine too. Anybody have any questions
[26:08] around early? I've got maybe a couple. So it's just the north piece that's going to
[26:16] go from B, 4 to B3, and then the front southeast is B3, and then the Southwest is B4.
[26:24] It's B4, so what we've really been asking them to do for quite a while, and they're
[26:28] doing right now, we've asked them to come in with a PUD, because we have the zoning district
[26:33] that's B4, it's essentially just auto-uses, and some very automobile-oriented things like
[26:38] castations and whatnot.
[26:39] It's not working there, it doesn't make sense along 59, so we've asked them to come in
[26:45] and do a PUD for the entire thing,
[26:48] they're asking for this kind of a stop gap measure
[26:50] because they'd like to accommodate dynamic
[26:52] septic systems and their use wouldn't
[26:55] be permitted in the D4 district.
[26:58] I can't tell you how many cases I found
[26:59] where this property has been resumed.
[27:01] It's really gone back and forth over the years.
[27:05] I guess many of my questions related to zoning
[27:07] are made as related to night number two.
[27:09] I looked at that property on Sunday.
[27:12] there's like there's two dumpsters and random spots, no garbage grouse, there's
[27:16] tire stored outside, there's like a line of 15 cars parked, like is that all, part
[27:23] of that zoning is it all allowed? It is not, it's hard to say this, but it's actually
[27:30] significantly better. Mr. Stariotti has been working with them for the past
[27:33] couple of years, there used to be, you know, junk cars and trailers and boats and
[27:37] everything parked back there, you know, it used to be much worse so they have sort
[27:41] of come into compliance with a lot of code enforcement rules, and part of the idea of
[27:46] the PUD is how are we going to get this corrected over time.
[27:49] Unfortunately, it didn't come into Shorewood in the situation most projects would have had
[27:54] a very industrial field to it.
[27:55] There was some gravel back there, there were, you know, we're living a little bit with
[27:59] the existing situation.
[28:01] But we would like them to come up with a plan for how they're going to improve it and address
[28:05] things like the dumpsters and the storage and the blind corners and things like that.
[28:10] So, like, there are already in violation of whatever zoning is there now, or we're going
[28:14] to change the zoning, and likely there'll still be in violation of whatever the zoning
[28:20] requires?
[28:22] Yeah.
[28:24] It's hard to say that it comes 75% of the way, there's still ways to go.
[28:29] Okay.
[28:30] But, in overall, we think, Steph thinks that this is only in change and makes the most sense
[28:34] for that property.
[28:35] And long-term, we probably want all of it to be B3.
[28:38] Yeah.
[28:39] Yeah, we don't want to say you can only have auto uses on the site.
[28:41] We'd rather it have the same building as like a target and maybe give them permission
[28:45] then for some of their auto uses that are already there.
[28:50] So we can kind of see it as two parallel systems, one where we've got to work with them on
[28:55] the property condition and then the other where they request the zoning change we need to
[28:59] follow up in the future.
[29:01] Okay.
[29:03] Thank you.
[29:04] We're allowed in so much time to get it up the park where it's supposed to be or is it just
[29:10] And I'm going to think we're going to give a time out like six months to get it to their
[29:17] point.
[29:18] A staff we were thinking is it's hard to condition a zoning on code enforcement things
[29:21] that we were thinking that we would do sort of parallel track code enforcement stuff,
[29:26] which we have been working with them on unfortunately the representative wasn't able to be here.
[29:32] But they have made a lot of progress over the last year in getting stuff together so we
[29:37] You can certainly issue a letter saying you have, you know, until, you know, 30 days
[29:42] to file an application for PUD, you know, it's a different thing.
[29:45] No, I understand.
[29:46] But, you know, that doesn't solve the problem you get done, but I have no problem with doing
[29:51] that.
[29:52] It's just a scandal out of it.
[29:54] It makes sense that it's already in violation and you should probably want to think.
[30:00] Do something to make sure it gets into code, warning code by the time in a certain period of time, rather than just leaving a carte blanche like in some cases in the past world, we're still working on trying to get them off the part.
[30:17] Mr. Solomon, can we do a condition on a zoning?
[30:19] On a rezoning?
[30:20] Didn't think we could.
[30:23] It's been done before.
[30:24] It's generally not.
[30:28] I have my other question is, is that part of, is it, is it the zoning thing or, you know,
[30:33] the next item is a conditional use, like, whose responsibility is it?
[30:38] Like, can you put it as part of the conditional use of this, the site cleanup and they have to
[30:43] to work that out with the landlord or is that not the proper channels?
[30:48] I guess we can do either way. In reality, the side issues
[30:51] opposed to the property on it, as opposed to the tenants,
[30:55] although it's much more common to do conditions that it can just leave.
[31:00] Is part of the delay due to previous or existing leases in place,
[31:04] has that been part of the hold-up of getting some of the things
[31:07] rectified over there? I think it's probably largely because it wasn't
[31:11] built since current standards originally right so you know there's gravel back
[31:16] there there's great differences back there there's there's no pond there's no
[31:21] downstairs closures but there never were and I think that's where it gets
[31:25] challenging it was the annexation agreement was done in order to get
[31:28] contradictory for some well-sized as part of a big negotiation so it was
[31:33] probably it's since a fire but it was much more relaxed than most annexation
[31:38] agreements we've seen and they were able to do some things that we wouldn't do a
[31:41] So, you know, they would meet solvent standards and unfortunately, you know, a lot of maintenance
[31:47] that just hasn't done very well.
[31:49] I know this one will be slightly off, but within that property, the building in the front
[31:55] that burned down, do you know if there's any plans to redo anything out there?
[31:59] I know that's not in this exact zoning block, but I know it's right or at least it's closed to it anyway.
[32:05] So over the years we've had numerous conversations with the property owner about their desire to move
[32:10] caliber collision from the phases they operate in the back part of the lot.
[32:16] So just about a thousand east to the west of this to build them in the facility, up
[32:23] towards the front where Doc's motor works used to be.
[32:26] We haven't seen any applications.
[32:28] We don't really see sketch plans for that, but that would be their intention.
[32:31] We have sense of potential clients, they're ready for things like mixer restaurants and stuff
[32:36] like that, but they haven't been in a position to sell property to them.
[32:40] I mean, Mr. Sturdy, anything that you can add to that about the achievement of working with the property owners?
[32:49] Yeah, the building that Natalie is talking about is the one on the north where three of the units
[32:56] burned with the best hybrid battery, which we eventually got out.
[33:02] So, this is a building that he's rehabbed.
[33:05] He's put a new fire alarm system in.
[33:08] And he's been working well to try to bring that building up to code.
[33:14] And the fire district feels that he has.
[33:18] So this is the building that has a couple of the businesses that he's trying to move in.
[33:25] Some of the dumpsters and stuff like that have been brought up aren't necessarily with
[33:31] that building.
[33:32] They're with a couple of the other buildings.
[33:34] things. Anything that we would want him to do, I think we could lay out and get him to
[33:41] do as far as keep the dumpsters in the back or put a fence up. He's worked with me well
[33:49] on everything moving forward. It's taken a while, but that north building is now looking
[33:57] better than some of the other buildings. He has talked about moving the collision to
[34:06] where the dock motors was. He has some artist renditions, but like Natalie said he hasn't
[34:12] moved forward, applying for a permit or bringing any of them to the board for approval yet.
[34:20] Do you have a stock motor works fit in B3 zoning?
[34:24] No.
[34:28] So we're changing the zoning to B3 and then his plan is to move a business that won't fit in B3.
[34:35] So what we were hoping to do is get the entire property zoned B3 and then in the PUD,
[34:42] given the ability to come forward and ask for like a conditional use that they want to do something like that.
[34:47] similar to what we would have done, you know, back in the day when NTB moved in in
[34:53] front of the Dominics, which is now the other tire store. But so we do have
[34:58] situations like that we just think that we're
[35:00] We better off if the underlying zoning is retail and we try to fit a couple of auto uses instead of having auto and trying to sandwich and retail uses. Okay.
[35:10] So just one last thing. Is there anything we can do? Like an agreement with them that they would have it up to code with any year rather than just leaving it up to chance? And I realized they're working at it. But by the same token, you could work at it for the next five years.
[35:30] I'm not saying they would do that, but it's possible.
[35:33] Sir.
[35:34] Having deferred accounts, if that can be added,
[35:36] and something like that.
[35:37] We could sit down and negotiate,
[35:41] and agree with what we have.
[35:43] I'd like to see that happen just so we're sure that
[35:46] we get these properties where we have.
[35:48] We get not necessarily them, but we have problems
[35:51] with some properties where they never do get the poll.
[35:55] and we're doing it. It puts stress on him having to go out there and trying to keep him on.
[36:00] So if we could add something like that, I'm all on favor.
[36:05] Any other questions?
[36:08] I agree with that point.
[36:10] So we'll leave it as a first read and bring it back in two weeks to see if that can be tidied up with that part of it.
[36:15] Fair enough?
[36:16] Absolutely.
[36:17] All right.
[36:20] So item two will be left as a first read.
[36:26] item 3 would be a consideration of orange granted condition or use for contractors office in the B3 zoning district for dynamic
[36:32] septic this item is also for a first raid would only apply that this remains
[36:37] as well as a first raid until we get the zoning amendment but if you like to
[36:42] review the information as well each you can at least cover that through the first
[36:46] raid certainly so dynamic septic would like to move in I think they actually have already moved into that building
[36:52] so we caught the issue when they applied for a business license.
[36:57] They are a locally owned septic service, so they repair septic systems and replace them.
[37:03] They would like to occupy this space as an office and potentially to house their two trucks.
[37:10] The only thing they'd really be doing with their trucks is washing them occasionally.
[37:13] There is a triple base in the building, so there would be two vehicles.
[37:17] They'd be parked in the building outside of work hours.
[37:20] are going back and forth, but regular hours of 7 a.m. to 4.30 p.m., and they, um,
[37:31] families, you know, quiet business.
[37:35] We, um, right now we don't feel the property is in great good enough shape that you could
[37:41] realistically strike any parking spaces and have them survive.
[37:45] When that does happen though, they would strike out two parking spaces where they could park
[37:48] there. Two trucks that side during the day and then bring them in the evening.
[37:59] Trustee Brock and Green planning is on and we're going on the issues that brought up
[38:02] during this. It was a short conversation and they did vote 5-0 and we did hold the public
[38:11] hearing and no one from the public spoke for or against it so. Anybody have any questions
[38:17] from Natalie on that one right now? I think my only way to come with work is you said that
[38:21] that they had striped spots when they can, right?
[38:24] So back to like kind of Tony's thought is that forever, right?
[38:28] They're already operating, they came out
[38:31] of planning and zoning, so they've been there
[38:32] for a month already, and I don't know whose site it is,
[38:36] like again, like can they park cars all over the parking lot
[38:38] or who's using that part a lot, right?
[38:41] Something that we know.
[38:43] Probably not conforming uses too, because they were
[38:46] annexed into the village in these conditions,
[38:49] so they suddenly take a look at us.
[38:50] I mean it's the first property coming in to shore and it it is I mean it doesn't look right. Yeah
[38:56] We don't have site line of rules because we'll have to do those back today
[39:00] But you know, so essentially they have a yard right as opposed to parking spaces
[39:04] But we'd like to do through the beauty is get those designated get a plan for when they have to when they get resurfaced
[39:10] How they get striped and things like that
[39:14] Unfortunately, we found ourselves in a little bit of a situation where we've had a couple of businesses move into those businesses
[39:18] is about licenses, so we're playing caps off.
[39:22] Yeah, it's more just, like I know here,
[39:25] we talk about those two big trucks,
[39:26] and I think they have some pickup trucks
[39:27] that's part of their service too, which is fine,
[39:29] but then all the other cars, like are those their business,
[39:32] or is that somebody else's business,
[39:34] is that allowed, or are they renting spaces, I don't know.
[39:38] Right, so like that's not addressed here,
[39:40] so where is it addressed?
[39:42] That's my questions.
[39:45] Now then you had referenced,
[39:46] and I think you mentioned during planning and zoning,
[39:48] how was this business discovered
[39:49] that it was up and running without a license.
[39:52] I believe it was through fire inspections.
[39:55] They're doing it.
[39:56] We've actually identified a number of businesses in town
[39:59] that have moved in.
[40:13] We're actually internally starting to look at how we can make improvements to that process because he's discovered the number of them. So we want to start notifying landlords in advance that, you know, hey, you need to make sure your people are getting business licenses before they open up in your buildings and maybe opposing us.
[40:32] there's a number of that we've discovered personally.
[40:36] All right, so that item will remain at first reading.
[40:38] I'll see if anybody else has any questions.
[40:41] All right, moving on to business item number four
[40:44] of the consideration of an ordinance granting
[40:46] a conditional use for mechanical repair and servicing facility
[40:48] for trucks in the eye to joint district for G and J services.
[40:52] This item is also up for first read.
[40:55] Trustee Brockman and Ms. Engle.
[40:57] Thank you again, Mayor.
[40:58] We did have a very lengthy discussion at Planning and Zoning on this agenda item.
[41:05] We held public caring, no one spoke from the public and comes here with a 5-0 vote as
[41:13] well.
[41:15] I think the most important thing to come out of it is the 17 conditions that Natalie set
[41:21] up.
[41:23] And why don't you elaborate on that a little bit?
[41:26] Natalie, please.
[41:27] Sure.
[41:29] So this property is at $2.15 a.m. and it's on the south side of A.m.
[41:33] and it's backs up to shoreward park.
[41:36] This is another example of a business that moved in without a permit, so we're playing
[41:40] catch up on it.
[41:41] But they would like to operate a proper care facility.
[41:46] They would have a very small number of vehicles on the property.
[41:50] they looked to have we actually started out with talking about three and then
[41:55] the plan permission suggested we went to four to accommodate a little bit more
[41:59] business but they have a maximum of four semis on the property at a time two
[42:03] could be repaired and two could be out in the parking lot everything would be done
[42:07] inside they won't have any truck drop-up or pick up without staff on site so if
[42:12] somebody breaks down in the middle of the night they won't be able to just drop the
[42:15] truck there they have to actually make an arrangement to meet with the
[42:17] property owner during business hours or the business owner during business hours.
[42:22] And you know vehicles will be left outside, they won't be at your storage or anything like
[42:26] that.
[42:29] Doesn't seem that my slide is working very well.
[42:31] Oh, sorry.
[42:33] I'm just going to get right to that.
[42:35] Sorry about that.
[42:36] I'm having technology problems today.
[42:39] So they would enter the building, the employees would enter the building where you see the green
[42:43] dot marked employee entrance. They would have tool storage and repairs inside the building.
[42:50] Most of the trucks would enter from the east side with occasional entries from the north side entrance,
[42:58] but that would be much less frequent. They'd have room for approximately four employees to park there,
[43:03] which should be adequate to cover what they need. And then two truck parking spaces outside.
[43:09] they've indicated to us that their longest vehicle is about 29 feet so we'd have
[43:14] a you know them strikeout spaces that are 33 feet deep and 12 feet wide.
[43:21] The
[43:22] orange area shows you know where they have there's they have a front half the
[43:29] building and there's other units that have rear half of the building everything
[43:34] would be stored inside. They would not really be having many customers come
[43:38] inside, they wouldn't have anybody in their repair space or anything like that.
[43:42] No cargo containers, tablets, trailers, outbuildings on a property, and they would be putting up
[43:48] a six-foot tall privacy fence along the rear property line where the bus, the shoreward
[43:54] park.
[43:55] It wouldn't be a chain link fence, it would have to be something like masonrywood or vinyl
[43:58] that provides full screening.
[44:01] They would agree to get a fence permit for that.
[44:04] They did start operating and we noticed if we approached them and said, hey, you've got
[44:07] to recommend for a permit.
[44:09] At that point, they were doing a little bit larger business
[44:11] than it just paid edge.
[44:12] These are some pictures that just in full disclosure.
[44:16] And the conditions, we basically went through them all
[44:19] because they're listed there.
[44:20] I'm happy to elaborate on any of them.
[44:23] This was one where they did move out.
[44:26] When we told them they could not operate, they moved out,
[44:29] and they came back to the conditionally used permit
[44:31] to ask your permission.
[44:33] We suggested they find other properties
[44:34] because we weren't sure it would work here,
[44:36] but they they seem to have figured out how to reduce the size of their business and make it work.
[44:40] So, the Flank Emission does recommend in favor.
[44:43] And this back in this property backs up to the park is that correct?
[44:49] And then, who's in the, if they're only taken less than half of the building,
[44:54] do we know who's occupying the other half of the building?
[44:57] I believe it's a company that rents out.
[45:00] House, castles, and carnival games, inflatable carnival games, and things like that for events. They're essentially using it as their warehouse. And they may also be another business, I want to say. I'm not sure if it moved out, but I think it was like a kitchen cap in a true business.
[45:19] Natalie, just a question.
[45:24] Claire, find it for me. How long has this been going on? And people just moving into buildings without business licenses?
[45:32] I know, you know, in paying rent and running a business and we have no clue.
[45:40] You know, on some businesses like this one where trucks showed up, we noticed it right
[45:45] away and contacted them, but I do discover a lot.
[45:49] My question was, oh, how long has this been going on?
[45:51] I think forever.
[45:53] I mean, I know when I started, we had a whole list because there was a fire marshal who had
[45:56] gone through and done all the infections and discovered a number.
[45:59] So when I first started back in 2019, we had a number of conditional use permits we had to go through.
[46:05] It seems that every time somebody knew those through and does the fire inspections they discovered them.
[46:09] But it's a real problem because we're playing catch-up, right?
[46:12] They're not situations where they're necessarily permitted.
[46:15] We're having to come forward to you and ask for permission later.
[46:19] So that's why we really want to kind of get ahead of this and send us notices and demands.
[46:23] Give us a round number.
[46:26] How many are out there?
[46:27] If we don't have all the occupations, I would say 15.
[46:32] Oh, money?
[46:33] Probably 15.
[46:35] And a lot of the ones that we find are things like an accountant who leased an office in
[46:40] an office building or stuff like that.
[46:42] There are people who don't think they need permits, but there are good numbers.
[46:47] The other thing we do is the state sends us a list monthly of all the businesses who have filed for revenue
[46:55] We flesh them through taxes and we do contact each of them and ask them a phone for licenses
[46:59] and that's how we discover a number of these two.
[47:01] They're doing any retail sales.
[47:05] Like they're coming across the border.
[47:07] I know.
[47:09] It's frustrating.
[47:10] And so we've never done it before but we want to start to, you know, tell the property owners.
[47:16] Look, you can't let this happen.
[47:18] You have to have people come in first and we need to, you know, we need to stick.
[47:21] We need a decent fine.
[47:23] Yeah, I mean, there ought to be some kind of punishment for people just coming in, squatting
[47:29] in a building, and starting a business, no sign, no anything, right?
[47:35] There ought to be something.
[47:37] I agree.
[47:38] And sometimes there's such an investment need to get them in there that it's really hard to
[47:43] kick them out, too, right?
[47:44] So we need to figure out how to get ahead of them.
[47:49] Do anything with the people that are leasing the property with them?
[47:52] and I'll teach you that.
[47:54] I mean, they both should probably do so.
[47:56] Absolutely.
[47:57] And right now, we can use our typical ticket structure,
[48:00] but what we were hoping to do, it's come forward to you,
[48:02] maybe next month, with a proposal to have specific fines
[48:06] for people who have businesses operating
[48:08] in their buildings with our permits and places.
[48:11] And for them to be hefty enough, that they'll notice.
[48:20] Would there be, in certain, there?
[48:22] Yeah, I'm looking at this list from A to Q conditions, not only guarantee that they will
[48:30] buy by all these conditions, we're going to end up in court under some time, or is there
[48:36] something else we can do in order to prevent that from happening?
[48:41] Unfortunately, the remedy if they, we can obviously issue fines, right, and we can give them
[48:47] tickets, we can give them tickets daily, but that doesn't always work and sometimes you
[48:51] and doesn't work. So it's a gamble.
[48:57] We did actually, in this case we did
[48:59] recommend that they sit at other sites, but they had already invested in this
[49:03] one so they wanted to bring it forward to you as a conditionally used to see
[49:06] what you thought. You know one more question I did. How, when they left, you said
[49:12] they came back and they decided how they could lower their business in order to
[49:18] operate here. For some reason from a business sense, it doesn't make sense to
[49:24] to lower your business. I don't know if it makes sense to you guys but it just doesn't
[49:30] make sense to me. I think I would go someplace else. The way it was explained at planning
[49:35] and zoning is that they would have four trucks on site right and as one's done that would
[49:40] be picked up and then another one would come in. So instead of having like ten on site
[49:45] or whatever they just have to do for like first and first out. They were trying to make
[49:50] make it palatable to the village because we had expressed the concerns that we have
[49:54] about truck repair especially truck repair close to residential and they said you know
[49:59] Okay.
[50:00] We'll do what we can to make this work in one of their suggestions was to limit the number of trucks. They actually suggested to limit it to three trucks. The plan for this and when they heard it suggested, hey, let's go up, you know, but they go to four just because it gives them a little bit more wiggle room to be compliant.
[50:16] So as of today, they're not operating. Now, when we told them to stop operations, they did actually stop, which is unusual. And they pulled the permit for the funds. They have not pulled the permit. They don't have permission. But we would have to pull the permit and have the funds installed before they can start operating.
[50:31] Okay.
[50:38] It is up for a first rate, so you guys have any questions or concerns?
[50:50] Any questions?
[50:51] I'll move it along or what?
[50:55] Yeah, I don't see why not, okay.
[51:00] Make a motion to approve an ordinance granting a conditional use for a mechanical repair
[51:07] and servicing facility for trucks in the I-2 zoning districts for G&J services incorporated
[51:14] it in the way of the second read. Second. Motion by Trustee Brockman, seconded by Trustee
[51:20] Babiak. Roll call, please. For item four. Chapman? No. Luciano? No. Self-ridge? No. Amos? No.
[51:30] Babiak? No. Brockman? No. All right. The condition of use failed on item four.
[51:41] With
[51:41] that will move on to business number five.
[51:45] Just so we're clear for the record, it did not pass.
[51:48] Correct, and that would be a denial.
[51:50] Correct, agreed.
[51:57] All right, business number five is a consideration
[51:59] of an ordinance granting a major amendment
[52:01] to a conditionally used for a planned unit development
[52:03] for short veterinary clinic.
[52:05] At the short town center, Rusty Ridge Animal Center,
[52:08] this item is also up for a first read.
[52:10] Trustee Brockman is Anglican.
[52:12] Thank you Mayor. We did look at this at our last planning zoning. No one spoke
[52:20] from the public on this agenda item 50 vote from the commissioners of approval.
[52:26] And this is gone from a mobile trailer now to a building. So badly you can
[52:35] fill us in on some of the details. Perfect. So we're all familiar with Rusty
[52:39] ridge, and I know we did talk a lot about the trailer. It turned out it didn't make sense
[52:44] to do the trailer because of the way the concrete was poured. There was rebar on the concrete.
[52:48] It wouldn't have worked out. So they did look into it and were able to come up with a plan
[52:52] to get a special animal MRI trailer that could be housed in a building. So what they're proposing
[52:58] now is to do a little building addition. It would be 160 square feet, so 26 feet wide by
[53:04] 32 feet deep, essentially, it would be the MRI room as well as a little bit of storage.
[53:10] They would make it so that it matched the building to the step possible.
[53:15] It wouldn't have any windows or doors, but basically where you see the red box, this is
[53:20] one of the looks like from the outside of the same red side.
[53:24] The accent and beige side in the roof and pretty much almost the size of the garage that would
[53:32] go along back.
[53:32] but it would be the MRI, it would be totally self-contained, they wouldn't have to take animals outside or anything like that.
[53:38] So as staff, we think that this is a better solution, and we recommend a favor of it.
[53:47] During planning and zoning, folks, we recommend any comments on this one.
[53:51] I think everybody was pleasantly surprised, and all good, it looks, and thought it was great ID.
[54:00] and match it with what we have out of our next agenda and I think it even wouldn't fit in
[54:06] even better yet.
[54:09] Yes sir. Does this address like the noise concerns with the trailer because I
[54:14] think the discussion was the noise wasn't the machine it was the condenser and or the transformer
[54:21] is that all inside this building as well? It is and they won't they'll be able to run it. What I
[54:26] understand they'll be able to run it off of their existing transformer is what they've
[54:30] told us so far. We haven't seen the building plans but at this point it seems like they
[54:34] can run it off of their existing stuff. It's it's a special that MRI as opposed to the
[54:40] repurposed human one they have last time. So I guess like is that is that required if we pass
[54:48] it tonight like all that has to be contained inside this building? Yes they have to meet the site
[54:53] That's a good one.
[54:56] I have a quote.
[54:57] I... is it possible that they're going to...
[55:09] I would like to find out exactly what the noise level will be and in the other possibilities
[55:16] that can come from this. Obviously, we probably should know what kind of MRI you're putting in.
[55:22] I mean, there's probably dozens of different varieties. If it's going in a building,
[55:27] everything else. If it's going into a building, I mean, that's one of their concerns.
[55:32] They heard the board's concern last time regarding noise, so the fact that they can power it
[55:36] off the existing transformer was one of the reasons they went this route.
[55:39] No, my point is just that even though it's in a building, there's still things that are
[55:44] hazardous in a building, and I just want to make sure that everything is covered based
[55:50] on what they're doing. I mean, I think the MRI can overheat, and it lets out helium
[55:57] If they have to be properly funded for debt, I don't know what kind of that would all fall within the building construction component.
[56:04] Well, yeah, I would want to make sure all that happens.
[56:06] But we don't review that. That would be on the building department to review that.
[56:11] You know, if we don't have the building permit, I'm not going to apply and say we do.
[56:14] We don't have the building permit. They have said that there is no newly admitted from this one.
[56:20] Obviously, we'll have to confirm that.
[56:21] But in reality the MRI within the veterinary clinic use from a zoning perspective would
[56:28] be permitted and they'd have to make sure they meet all of our performance standards
[56:32] encoded.
[56:33] It's really the building addition that's actually a trigger.
[56:36] Well, like I said, I would just like to first read it.
[56:39] I'd like to see what that would be, what the decimal, like something to verify what it
[56:45] is.
[56:46] They haven't submitted a permanent earning plan, so you don't even know what it is.
[56:50] I, you know, we're putting MRI in there, I'm all for it, but I want to make sure that it
[56:57] complies with, and it is not going to be anything that's going to be disturbing to the
[57:01] residents.
[57:02] They have a 24 hour service now.
[57:05] You can have someone there at 2 o'clock in the morning.
[57:08] So, you know, I just like to see what the noise level is going to be.
[57:12] And I don't think that's much to ask.
[57:15] Okay.
[57:16] Anybody else have any questions?
[57:20] I don't
[57:23] think Dr. Joe is here to answer that.
[57:30] Okay, leave it in the first read.
[57:32] Okay, so we'll try to get noise clarifications that might emit from the building.
[57:39] Is that what the clerk might tell you?
[57:40] Is that what the clerk is looking for?
[57:40] Well, yeah, make sure the magnet draw is protected by wherever you have to insulate.
[57:47] Well, that'll fall within building, of course.
[57:53] Okay, now we got that okay, and then item number six would be a discussion of a concept plan for the district at town.
[58:04] So trustee Brock, nearly just go right ahead with that.
[58:09] So what you see on the screen right now is the 2004 town center preliminary PUD.
[58:16] So they were expecting to build up a retail portion of the tailed center with a couple
[58:22] of large buildings and several more small pedestrian-oriented buildings.
[58:27] So the ones that are marked D were essentially the big buildings.
[58:31] And when we approved Rusty Ridge, we approved the D on the left-hand side as sort of a retail
[58:37] anchor.
[58:40] They were, in two back and two back before, they were also expecting to have holes for
[58:44] somebody else like that anchored the site but when the economy class so did that coal
[58:49] steel. So back in 2018 the village hired ginkgo planning and design and they developed a town
[58:57] center master plan. They kind of looked at it and said you know maybe there's more retail
[59:01] than we should have on this property. You know how can we make this work with the town center and
[59:06] they came up with this plan and it's a village plan as opposed to the property plan but they show
[59:10] retail on Jefferson Street and then in which is in red and then in orange it's a mix of multi-handly and townhouses
[59:17] is what they proposed. This is the Ginkgo plan and sort of what it could look like and as well as the type of buildings that they were anticipating.
[59:27] So we've seen two things happen since this 2004 plan was approved, the Hamptons got approved, and also the district
[59:38] is getting developed on the other side of the street.
[59:41] So this is the property that's on the west side of the street,
[59:44] the north part was sold to the library,
[59:46] and then the south part is being developed by Dr. Joe.
[59:49] This is the plan he would like to do.
[59:51] On the far left is where you see Rusty Ridge,
[59:53] and then the rescue development he would like to do
[59:56] oriented with multiple commercial buildings.
[1:00:00] This is oriented in a town center type design, where people can walk along the street front and all the parking behind and there's more of a common gathering space. So I believe this is 12 new buildings he's proposing. And most of them are organized in that rectangle or fashion, which is kind of reminiscent of you think of neighborhood crossings of 95th or maybe set of bridges. That's the type of environment he'd like to create. And he does have one building which is actually the first building he does up by the pond where he would like to do a restaurant.
[1:00:32] And this is, I believe, an AI-generated version of what he would like to do up against the pond.
[1:00:38] His thought is to do a two-story restaurant where you'd have dining on both levels,
[1:00:42] that would be a grandfather patio, as well as a second-story patio overlooking the pond.
[1:00:46] Kind of a boardwalk type deal.
[1:00:52] A good view.
[1:00:53] He kind of designed it so that it would match the vibe of rescue ridge,
[1:00:58] but also the vibe of the Hamptons because they'll be close together.
[1:01:00] So it picks up some of the colors from Rusty Ridge, some of the stone elements from across
[1:01:05] the street, you know, and yet it's own unique built.
[1:01:10] So we just want you to get your suggestions or comments on this.
[1:01:14] We think it does a fairly good job of meeting the intent of the town center PUD, but we wanted
[1:01:21] to show it to you.
[1:01:22] The other thing, so this is the site plan.
[1:01:24] The other thing I should have mentioned is they did want to do a drive-through.
[1:01:27] We talked to them about, you know, if they were going to propose a drive-through, they should do it in a very
[1:01:33] way, you know, like a very calm manner, so it didn't really take a lot of space, and they have proposed a drive,
[1:01:38] what a single drive-through on the southeast side of the site, just below that building that faces when it's down.
[1:01:48] And it would be similar to maybe like the drive-through, you see it big being, or the Duncan-Donald's on 59,
[1:01:53] where it's, you know, not big dual lanes with lots of parking, right, and that is very
[1:01:59] standard drive.
[1:02:01] So, if you have any questions, I'm happy to relay them back to the property owner, but
[1:02:05] we want to see what you think in whether you like the direction.
[1:02:09] I think there's a long time coming that the village has been trying to establish for years
[1:02:13] and to create that foot traffic area, some sort of a small retail area, foot traffic.
[1:02:19] I think it's a great idea.
[1:02:21] Yeah, it's been a long time plumbing this ability to have that fourth off to try to create that. It's nice to finally have an investor willing to do it.
[1:02:28] Yeah, it's nice. You know, for a long time, the line was kind of held by a speculator, right?
[1:02:33] They were waiting to be able to make money on the property, so it's nice to see people who have purchased the property and want to get things done.
[1:02:39] And Dr. Joe seems to really appreciate the vision there, so we're excited about that.
[1:02:43] And both have thoughts, concerns?
[1:02:47] I think the only kind of thing that came out of the planning zoning which isn't the village is they're open to have a
[1:02:52] Accelerator and a decelerating way to turn in and out of a
[1:02:55] I like the project if like as we can I know the state's hard tough to work with some point
[1:03:05] But I think that'll be a good idea because this would bring a lot of people that might draw you we may be able to trigger or that may trigger
[1:03:10] a warrant, you know, as different parts of that started continue to develop. And kind
[1:03:15] of when I mentioned during planning and zoning, I don't know if the board recognized, we worked
[1:03:20] with Representative Walsh and I got lowered the speed limit out here in front. So we got
[1:03:26] a 50 reduction, we got the 45 right now. Signs are off. So just as you come from the west
[1:03:32] as soon as you cross the tracks, we did get a reduction from 50 to 45 right now. We are
[1:03:38] hoping to get to 40, but we did get a baby step and as additional
[1:03:42] development comes through here and they believe we can probably get a further
[1:03:45] reduction. But a step in the right direction. But to your point, Scott, as a
[1:03:52] development like this comes in, we may be able to warrant additional improvements
[1:03:56] on 52 as well.
[1:03:57] Yeah. So why would every commercial building of the
[1:04:00] track study see when we hit those ones? Okay. The way that right in and right
[1:04:05] out as a design now that's what has to be tore up as it won't accommodate her.
[1:04:11] Yeah and that all makes it that would all like now they kind of mentioned this
[1:04:15] different buildings come upon or for approval that have to continue to re-evaluate
[1:04:19] all that and so on.
[1:04:21] Yeah I wasn't the first staff at getting out to approve something so they kind of
[1:04:26] only approved what's minimally required.
[1:04:29] Has there been any discussion on time planning?
[1:04:33] The thought for Building 12, which is the upper left-hand corner, would be 2027.
[1:04:38] That would be the restaurant.
[1:04:39] That would be the restaurant.
[1:04:41] And I think, you know, it's a smaller restaurant than it appears in this picture, but, you know,
[1:04:46] the idea was to do a two-story restaurant that overlooks the pond, but also has that street frontage, so.
[1:04:55] Does anybody remember when the library bought that land?
[1:05:00] I think it was 2010. I think it was 2010. Because that one picture, you showed residential along the lake, and I, and for like me, I don't ever remember residential along the lake, because I thought the library had their, remember the, the grand scheme they had of, you know, the view over the lake. And sorry, I wasn't here at that point. The original, the original plans were
[1:05:29] to have restaurants along the front of the...
[1:05:33] Right.
[1:05:33] First lake.
[1:05:35] Right.
[1:05:35] That was the original plans, but...
[1:05:38] Yeah.
[1:05:39] That's a strange thing.
[1:05:40] So technically this 2004 plan that you see on the screen right now is the approved plan.
[1:05:47] The other one that shows the residential on the lake was when the village had done in
[1:05:50] 2018, because they didn't think that that first plan was viable.
[1:05:55] But in reality, we're kind of going back to that for the side of the street.
[1:05:58] We're going back to the original plan.
[1:06:00] Excellent.
[1:06:01] Yeah, I'm happy about it.
[1:06:02] A lot of building.
[1:06:03] And if we get that done, I think it'll be a really nice town
[1:06:05] better area, especially connected rights to the park and
[1:06:08] everything.
[1:06:11] All right.
[1:06:13] That sounds like you can convey a support back lower than I am on that.
[1:06:17] With that, we'll move into trustee comments.
[1:06:20] Trustee Ameths.
[1:06:21] Thank you.
[1:06:23] Trustee Badback.
[1:06:27] Thank you.
[1:06:27] Trustee Brockman.
[1:06:29] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:06:30] October 7th.
[1:06:32] is our next planning and zoning and too early for an agenda as of right now. Thank you.
[1:06:38] Thank you. Trustee Cha.
[1:06:40] No comment. Trustee Luciano.
[1:06:42] The citizens advisory committee will be meeting the 24th this month.
[1:06:47] And as always, if anyone's interested getting involved in it, they can contact myself or any
[1:06:52] members to the vote on website. That's all I have.
[1:06:56] Thank you. And Trustee Stone.
[1:06:58] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:06:58] you know I keep on seeing in the news about flock cameras both in the
[1:07:02] national media and local media and chief I was hoping you could maybe provide
[1:07:07] some insight I know we've got a lot of them here in Shorewood. Do we have the
[1:07:11] right policies and procedures in place for protecting people's privacy in the
[1:07:17] village of Shorewood? Like selfishly I know that they do a great deal stopping
[1:07:21] crime like I work in the car industry and have recovered several stolen vehicles
[1:07:27] do to the flock cameras helping along the way and I just hope that you could maybe elaborate
[1:07:30] a little bit.
[1:07:32] But I think it's important that you're bringing this matter up right now.
[1:07:37] As you've seen in the news, we have local jurisdictions around us that have had some issues.
[1:07:45] I consider today competently knowing that I brought the flock program here in 2021 and
[1:07:51] We do have policies in place, and we do have fail safes already moving forward that have
[1:07:58] been more proactive than our neighbors' agencies.
[1:08:06] So as I sit here today, I can tell you that we have a good program.
[1:08:12] We have a good auditing system that we put in place years before.
[1:08:16] were installed what they've recently done here within the last six to eight weeks.
[1:08:22] We've been very proactive with it, and it's been a true game changer for the police department
[1:08:29] since we brought them forward, but I'm open to any questions that anybody at the board
[1:08:35] may have concerning these cameras.
[1:08:37] Thank you.
[1:08:37] I answer my question.
[1:08:38] Thank you.
[1:08:39] Anybody else have any questions through the Chief on that?
[1:08:43] With that, thank you.
[1:08:45] Thank you.
[1:08:45] Thank you, Chief.
[1:08:46] for answering that. With that I do need a motion to go into the executive
[1:08:51] session to get to discuss litigation action against affecting on behalf of
[1:08:56] that particular body that has been filed and pending for a circuit court
[1:08:59] administrative tribunal or public body that finds action is probable or imminent.
[1:09:04] So motion by Trustee Selfridge, second by Trustee Amos, roll call for
[1:09:10] for exact please.
[1:09:12] Luciano.
[1:09:12] Yes.
[1:09:13] Self-righteous.
[1:09:13] Yes.
[1:09:14] Famous.
[1:09:14] Yes.
[1:09:15] Badiac.
[1:09:15] Yes.
[1:09:16] Brockman.
[1:09:16] Yes.
[1:09:17] In check.
[1:09:17] Yes.
[1:09:19] All right.
[1:09:19] We are going to the back for exact.
[1:19:23] With that, I would need a motion to end closed session. Motion by Trustee Luciano. Second by Trustee
[1:19:31] Babi, April, call, please, to end closed session. Self-ridge. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
[1:19:42] All right. And that would put us back into regular session. With that, we are at the end of our agenda.
[1:19:48] So at that point I would also ask for a motion to adjourn.
[1:19:51] So motion by Trustee Amos, second by Trustee Chapman, roll call to adjourn.
[1:19:57] Amos?
[1:19:58] Yes.
[1:19:58] Yes.
[1:20:00] Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. We are adjourned.