[0:00] And Sam, do you want me to show the agenda? Yeah, I don't, I don't have it. I guess I'm bringing it up on my phone. Let me do that. Can you see it, you guys? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Cool.

[0:22] It's got a thing over it. It says the meeting has been recorded by the post. Do we click on that? Yeah. Oh, you don't need to because I did. I got it. Okay.

[0:31] All right.

[0:35] All right. I'll call the meeting to order at what time is it?

[0:40] Well, I'll stay.

[0:42] Yeah.

[0:43] Seven out of two. Seven out of two.

[0:46] What's there is it?

[0:47] The roll call with that Chris Sarah on June, man, Kathy and person and Marty's going to join us via phone. You said that's correct, Sam. And he'll call my friend.

[1:04] phone and I'll put him on speaker calls. Okay. We have a motion to approve the agenda.

[1:14] I moved to the agenda. Okay. All right. Kathy moves. Chris seconds. Do we consider this a

[1:24] quorum? Yes. Four of us including me. I

[1:31] believe so. I think so and Marty will hear momentarily soon.

[1:35] We'll have more.

[1:37] Okay.

[1:39] That was a question, Sharon.

[1:40] I talked about earlier was, if I count towards a quorum or not, because I know four is a

[1:45] quorum.

[1:47] I just don't know if you can't the mare or not.

[1:49] It seems to me like I read you didn't.

[1:51] You don't, do you, Chris?

[1:53] It seems like I read somewhere.

[1:56] I, I'm not 100 percent.

[1:58] I feel like actually we need Marty to have a quorum at the end of the day.

[2:03] Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. And so Marty, I can give him a call and see if I can get him online. But you guys have, I'm realizing Sam, this isn't earlier version of the agenda. So, um, I would say if I, I'll say if I can get the

[2:22] latest version up here.

[2:27] I think you remember something about you, the tiebreaker, right?

[2:31] Well, he is the typewriter, that's correct.

[2:35] Yes, so could he really be part of the quorum if he was a typewriter?

[2:38] Well, I think officially by the town charter, the mayor has about and I've just

[2:46] and I think half the mayor has done the same.

[2:49] I don't think there's a time.

[2:51] I think in our town charter, I am considered a voting member of the board.

[2:56] You guys, Marty's on the line.

[2:58] are good okay do you vote to do you vote to approve the agenda can you hear him yeah you said you

[3:12] better do we will call you Marty when Cindy gets here okay question what the

[3:33] question is called. Okay, okay. Okay, so I'll just call me for the book because I'm from

[3:39] the other things here. This is even closer to the show. Sounds good. Okay. All right, thank you, ma'am.

[3:46] Pucculator. Cindy's. Great. Back up and on our door.

[3:56] Cindy, are you? Cindy here. Great. Hey,

[4:02] Okay, Sam, we do have bills for approval, UNI signed them, but we should probably run through the list.

[4:11] Did Sammy provided us with a list?

[4:15] Did everybody get a copy of that list?

[4:20] Yes.

[4:21] Okay.

[4:26] Mickey just sent me a text trying to get it into the meeting.

[4:29] Oh, okay.

[4:30] I'll check.

[4:32] Does he have this zoom link?

[4:35] Yes, he does.

[4:40] I don't think Marty's coming in there if you want the chair.

[4:44] I hear a motion to approve the bill.

[4:47] I moved to approve the bills.

[4:49] That's so explained by Tammy.

[4:53] Yeah, they moved to approve the bills.

[4:55] Chris, did you check it?

[4:57] Yes.

[4:58] Okay. All in favor?

[5:00] Aye.

[5:01] Aye.

[5:03] Aye.

[5:05] already. Okay. Um,

[5:12] we have any public comment of if I not get a no public care. Yeah. She's public.

[5:23] Okay. Edmund, the marriage report. I really don't have anything to report right now. Town clerk.

[5:30] Well, America has had one thing to report. Everybody have a married Christmas.

[5:35] Thanks, Sam, you too.

[5:40] Town clerk update, I guess we don't have because Tammy's not on.

[5:49] Rotten Bridge Department update. Did Mickey make it on?

[5:54] Yes.

[5:56] Mickey, I've got an update for you. I was going to call you, but since you're on here,

[6:01] I will talk to you about it now for just a second.

[6:06] are you there?

[6:12] Mickey,

[6:19] can you hear me? I can't hear you.

[6:36] Can you hear

[6:44] me now? Yeah, there we go.

[6:49] There we go. All right. Okay, before you give your update, I've got an update for you. Like I said, I was going

[6:54] to call you earlier and I've been on the train all day and I haven't had a chance.

[7:06] I got a call

[7:06] They are concerned that if we don't have

[7:11] the plans for the bridge,

[7:15] find out by an engineer that

[7:19] sometime in the future,

[7:21] somebody might be able to come back on the town

[7:24] or him or whatever.

[7:27] Right, great.

[7:29] He's suggesting that we get an engineer

[7:32] to look at the plans.

[7:34] My, my first thought would be Craig Abrahamson.

[7:43] Junior mentioned the Army Corps of Engineers, because he says he thinks they've got authority over the creek.

[7:54] Well, they do.

[7:57] So can you put a little time into researching that and see if Craig would be a viable engineer or if we have to go through the Corps of Engineers.

[8:08] Yes.

[8:10] So I talked to junior today.

[8:12] If you want, we can finish this a little bit later on in the meeting.

[8:19] We got a review decisions on the bridge.

[8:23] I got the bids printed out for you guys.

[8:26] You guys want to talk about it now or do you want to talk about it later?

[8:29] Well, I think we took that off the agenda didn't we, sure?

[8:34] Yeah, we did and Mickey, that's why I told you you didn't have to attend.

[8:39] Oh, okay. Yeah, and Sam plus the updated agenda. I'm sorry.

[8:46] No, you're fine. Let's talk about a little bit under your, your run bridge update.

[8:51] Definitely. So I talked to junior today about it actually. And since he brought up the whole

[8:56] engineering aspect, I do agree with him 100%. And if we're going to talk to Abrahamson for

[9:05] engineering the bridge. Maybe we could talk to him about engineering the plans for the town shop

[9:12] and maybe get a deal, you know, kind of like a two-for-one and get it all taken care of from one shot.

[9:20] When I talk to Abrahamson, I can clarify with him if we need to get the Army Corps of Engineers involved.

[9:28] The last time I did any work in the creek, which was many years ago, the only reason we had to get the

[9:34] Army Corps of Engineers involved is because we had equipment in the water. I don't believe we're

[9:40] going to have equipment in the water doing the bridge project. But like junior brought up, it could

[9:46] be a concern that they might be concerning over 50 years down the road of flood comes down,

[9:52] clear creek takes that embattment pushes it down and causes mass havoc downstream. So yeah, I think

[10:01] I think we should definitely get an engineered for sure.

[10:04] Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

[10:08] I agree with what junior had to say too.

[10:11] And then once we get a set of engineered plans,

[10:13] we're gonna have to ask both parties to resubmit bids.

[10:19] Right.

[10:20] Based on, based on the engineered plans.

[10:24] Okay.

[10:25] You think you can get a hold of Abrahamson

[10:29] between now and the next board meeting and the second week of January and have an update

[10:36] for us then.

[10:37] Yep.

[10:38] Okay.

[10:39] Definitely.

[10:41] If you guys want, can I go ahead and ask how much you would charge to engineer the plans

[10:47] for the shop?

[10:49] Yeah.

[10:49] Go ahead and get a quote on that.

[10:51] Okay.

[10:51] Yeah.

[10:52] And Mickey, get a quote on paper, not a verbal, so that we can do something over it.

[10:58] Yeah, I'll have somebody email over to me.

[11:02] Great.

[11:05] Perfect.

[11:06] Okay.

[11:07] Did we add it?

[11:08] I have just no plan going on.

[11:09] Plowns doing great.

[11:11] Everybody seems to be happy.

[11:13] Hopefully it snows a little bit more this next storm instead of being so then cold.

[11:19] We did have one scare over the weekend.

[11:23] And the pressure meter for the water main there at Town Hall dropped to zero at about

[11:31] one o'clock in the morning on Saturday and Tim Hammett's house froze at the same time.

[11:36] So John and I thought we might have a mainline freeze but we don't.

[11:39] It was just a false alarm from the meter there in Town Hall.

[11:51] I started my service of videos. I got three of them completed already. I started my fourth one and I'm working on getting the rest of these bits put together.

[12:03] And like you said, since we're going to get these plans engineered, I'll go ahead and get some new bits from these guys as soon as we get everything squared away with Abrahamson.

[12:11] Okay. Okay. Do you get the text from the water system when something's? Yeah. All right. I get that stuff.

[12:26] All right. That's all I got. I get a quick personal question for you. You know, somebody I believe, probably up on Mountain Street, name Janet last initial M.

[12:41] Janet Miller, I believe so. I know of her. I don't think I know her personally.

[12:47] You know where she live? No.

[12:52] I had

[12:56] to complain at the railroad from her to head.

[13:00] What kind of complaint? I was out with the locomotive too early this morning.

[13:09] Oh, well. Yeah. All right. So I'm. If you guys don't need anything else for me, am I

[13:18] going to hop off? Yeah. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. I will talk to you guys next

[13:26] week. All right, have a good night. Good night. Thanks you too.

[13:33] Okay.

[13:36] So long mountain pork. Okay.

[13:40] I'm first of all, I need to very, is somebody taking the notes of this mat meeting? Cindy,

[13:48] we are being recorded. Nobody is taking notes. Tammy will summarize when she listens to the recording.

[13:56] Okay, I went good because there are a couple of things that should get recorded someplace

[14:03] in all of this.

[14:05] First, I have to say thank you very much to your mayor.

[14:09] Thank you very, very much for expressing some concerns at our last meeting,

[14:17] because what it caused me to do was to, especially about the environmental study,

[14:25] Because I had been unwilling to enter the environmental study

[14:30] until we knew we had enough money to buy a mountain.

[14:32] There's no sense in spending on it.

[14:35] But I thought when we got the beginning of this month

[14:38] when we knew we were going to have enough money to buy the mountain,

[14:42] I thought to myself, well, we can do the study right after we purchased it.

[14:47] But your conversation led me to contact

[14:50] and I'd like this name to show up in the minutes.

[14:55] I contacted Rebecca Almond from Ireland's shape.

[15:00] She is an environmental attorney. She actually is contracted to the county relative to I-70 issues. She happens to be the pro by pro bono attorney or the Colorado Historical Foundation, who will be holding our easement. And so Cindy Nasky there had said that, you know, you can use Becky. And it goes on their pro bono. So it is not.

[15:29] It's not something that is any expense to the town.

[15:32] And I explained our situation to Becky and she said, I also have known her for 10 years

[15:39] at this point, but she said, Whoops, you have to have your phase one done before your name

[15:47] goes on the title.

[15:49] and, whoa, yeah, that sort of changed, that was last Friday night, our late Friday afternoon,

[16:01] because what you're after, and nobody's supposed to play around with these initials, okay,

[16:08] is a BFP, which is a bona fide perspective purchaser. And if you have filed with

[16:18] Circular with the federal government, to be a bona fide perspective purchaser and you gain

[16:27] that BFP status, it protects you from liability on the federal and state level.

[16:34] And she's careful to tell me that nobody ever protects you from an individual, you know,

[16:41] certs it doesn't protect you from somebody who trips on your sidewalk choosing to try to

[16:46] sue the town. Nobody ever protects you against any, you know, all of that. But it protects you

[16:53] on the larger level of the EPA coming along or the state coming along. It gives you that protection.

[17:01] and you see the Colorado Historical Foundation,

[17:04] while they're holding a conservation easement,

[17:08] that's also considered a property thing.

[17:11] So they also want to have that protection.

[17:16] So I discussed with Becky because we have a closing date

[17:19] that at this point is at the end of January.

[17:24] I discussed with Becky, we had received three estimates

[17:28] and I would like the the notes to reflect the three estimates back in February we being open space

[17:36] commission and me and by half of the town had gone to ERO resources to quantum and to tetra tech

[17:49] And it explained the price for estimates on doing a phase one.

[17:55] The estimates came back, the euro resources said, sure, they could take a lift and do

[18:00] an estimate to do a survey for $7,000.

[18:09] Quonsum came back at 23,400 Tetra Tech came back at 28,000.

[18:21] Quite frankly, ERO resources, it wasn't the kind of a survey we would have needed to get

[18:29] to.

[18:30] The fact that the others came in our guests, we were somewhere between $25,000 and $30,000.

[18:36] That was our guess up front.

[18:38] So when somebody looks at you and says $7,000,

[18:41] they're not doing the thing you need them to do.

[18:44] So I told Becky those three.

[18:47] Now, the gentleman who had done quantum's estimate

[18:51] is a man by the name of Steve Hoffman.

[18:54] Since he made that estimate,

[18:57] he has moved firms from quantum

[19:00] to a firm called Iron Woman.

[19:03] Iron Woman Construction.

[19:04] Well, Iron Woman was the owner's great-grandmother.

[19:07] She was a whole blooded indigenous powerful lady,

[19:12] and so he named his corporation after his great-grandmother.

[19:16] Well, Iron Woman has done a lot of work

[19:18] up in the Waldorf Basin, led by Steve Hoffman.

[19:23] So Becky's suggestion to me was that Steve knows the territory

[19:28] and that even though he's gone to a different firm,

[19:32] that term also does these studies. I mean, that's, and that I should contact him. I did contact him.

[19:41] He would be willing to stay with his estimated price. Ironwood woman would be willing to stay

[19:46] with that price of 23, 4 to do a complete phase one for the purpose of qualifying the town for a

[19:57] the FPP.

[20:02] I think that that's what we need to and want to do. I asked him whether it's possible

[20:08] to do that in the winter time and he said yes actually it is because so much of it is database

[20:15] research. He will research every one of those to pick up the history of the level of mining that took

[20:22] place. I mean, and this is paperwork. And what kind of work division of

[20:28] reclamation mining safety has done on it? What kind of reports the EPA might

[20:33] have? He'll gather all of the paperwork. And he said, then what they will plan

[20:38] to do, he said, you know, it's south facing. They may be able to get up to some of

[20:43] it. But they flight drones. And he will undoubtedly be out here by drones. And he

[20:50] He said, yes, he could.

[20:51] He understood the situation and he understood that we had a private owner and he understood

[20:57] that it needed to be done by the end of January.

[21:00] And yes, if he could get started immediately, he could get that accomplished.

[21:08] So retaining money or something?

[21:10] Does he like a retainer or something like that?

[21:12] He likes contracts.

[21:13] and I have a contract here, the contract I believe was sent out to you. Sarah was sent out to everybody?

[21:23] It was. Okay. Yes, I received it.

[21:28] I think it's filled up on the screen if you want me to. Yeah, it's a professional services agreement. It's pretty standard kind of thing.

[21:35] It's from Iron Woman Construction Environmental Services and Steve Hoffman would be the lead person.

[21:43] It's a lump-sum compensation, and the reason it's a lump-sum compensation is because,

[21:54] quite frankly, he probably couldn't get it done for quite this, but what he's saying

[21:58] is that he did this last February for another firm, and he didn't bid it.

[22:04] He estimated it, and he will stick with that estimation.

[22:07] In my opinion, and that of our now pro bono attorney Becky, this is a very fair, and the

[22:16] other major firm, Tetra Tech is huge, and when they came in at 20, I mean, we obviously

[22:23] are in range of this, this is the way this needs to do.

[22:27] So I am recommending that the town of Silverblum sign the contract with Iron Woman construction

[22:36] to proceed with the phase one, it says the phase one, EA, from Mindy Fine Properties,

[22:44] located near Silverbone, per Colorado AST, and the standard E2247-16, that's the standard

[22:53] that leads you to a BFPP and because that's what we want as a result of this because that's

[23:03] Okay, that's the liability protection, Cindy.

[23:06] We're looking for Sam.

[23:07] I mean, and I apologize.

[23:10] I misunderstood the directive.

[23:12] I thought it didn't matter, but you did it before or after.

[23:17] Well, I'm going to tell us.

[23:18] And I'm so glad you brought it up because I, yeah, all right.

[23:23] And you guys, I've got Marty on the line to, for when we're calling a vote.

[23:28] Okay, okay, I have a question on a comment.

[23:36] Do you say a phase one? Is there more phases?

[23:40] There can be. If the phase one determines that on a particular site, there should be a phase two, then they recommend that.

[23:50] Okay.

[23:51] But most of the time, no.

[23:54] Okay.

[23:55] All right.

[23:56] And we don't have anything that's dashing out acid water.

[24:01] I mean, we don't.

[24:02] Yes, so there's no reason to go into a phase one feeling that you're going to end up with a phase two.

[24:11] Okay.

[24:13] And my comment is, well, vote on this tonight.

[24:19] But before I put my signature on that, I'd like to get Joe's approval or the town attorney just have a read it over.

[24:28] She should be able to do that fairly quickly, so I can probably get it signed Monday.

[24:36] We see.

[24:38] Everybody says.

[24:39] Right.

[24:39] You want it.

[24:40] The rest of the world gets make cases.

[24:43] You don't.

[24:44] All right.

[24:44] Do you have a problem with that?

[24:46] No, I don't have a problem with that.

[24:48] You know,

[24:49] And it's going to affect our timeline.

[24:50] If we wait till the end to do it.

[24:52] Well, quite honestly, the man's gathering information as we speak because the,

[24:57] because he is. Okay. I don't anticipate there being a problem, but I just have like to have

[25:04] the town and turn it into the suburbs before I find it. Still called me. Also, if I still called

[25:12] me right before I called Becky Emman and said because you were at talks with her. Right. And she said,

[25:19] you know, and I gave her my rash now for the timing. But after I hung up from that, that was when I

[25:26] picked up a song to call Becky and thought, I better check this out, I better double

[25:32] check myself here. And so, so yes, I will, I'll be happy to call Cheryl back, but I

[25:39] think that she's not going to be reachable to Tuesday.

[25:42] Right. We've got Sarah, we've got an electronic copy of this, right?

[25:46] But yes, I just know we can email the Joe to have her look over.

[25:53] Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I thought I was sharing my screen, but evidently I wasn't.

[26:01] But I'm going to send a message to Joe too, because I promised I would get back to her. So I'm just going to send her an email and explain what I have found out from from environmental counsel.

[26:15] And because she said, Joe said to me quite frankly, she doesn't have a news background in environmental law.

[26:25] No, you have to, is so technical.

[26:30] And so I told her and I didn't, I shouldn't have written back to her this week, but this got a little, yeah.

[26:38] Okay, Cheryl, would you mind emailing that to Joe and asking her to look it over real quick?

[26:45] Sure, and Sam, I'll copy you and Cindy, how about?

[26:49] Okay.

[26:50] Okay, and I'm going to write to her also, Sarah.

[26:53] And I'll probably write to her in the morning to give a little background because I told her I wasn't worried about it.

[27:01] And then I hung up the phone and decided I was.

[27:03] Okay. Okay. Okay. And and I'll see about. Okay. I think I'll be sure that was just

[27:08] said. That's good. So should I might we be able to move on this fairly soon and and

[27:16] because I'm inclined to do so and I will do that Sam and Cindy understand you'll follow

[27:22] up further. Well, I hope that you will vote with contingent upon chose approval that you

[27:29] to a vote tonight to accept this contract.

[27:34] Sir, are you so moved?

[27:37] I so move, Sam.

[27:39] Okay.

[27:40] Chris seconds.

[27:42] I haven't teeny tiny question.

[27:44] Yeah.

[27:44] The money's for this as it does come out of the.

[27:47] It comes out of what we have collected for the mountain.

[27:49] And it doesn't jeopardize the sale or just not the anyway.

[27:53] Okay, no, it does not jeopardize this purchase.

[27:55] Okay. Okay.

[27:56] Any more questions or discussion?

[27:58] I do know where, how much money I need.

[28:00] Where are you going?

[28:01] All in favor?

[28:03] Hi.

[28:05] Hi.

[28:06] Hi.

[28:07] Thanks.

[28:08] All right.

[28:09] Okay.

[28:10] Okay.

[28:12] Okay.

[28:13] Okay.

[28:14] Thank you.

[28:15] Thank you.

[28:17] Okay.

[28:17] And I've been signing on to some of everybody who go.

[28:20] Yeah.

[28:20] Next page.

[28:21] Second page.

[28:22] It's not, it's very straightforward little contract.

[28:24] Right.

[28:24] We'll do this for that.

[28:25] I would like to make a financial report.

[28:29] Our monies are coming in and actually we're calling them all in.

[28:37] So our monies are coming in pretty rapidly these days.

[28:42] I believe that Tammy made a deposit today as the first deposit in the in the restricted account.

[28:51] Right.

[28:52] And then Sarah and I will meet with her at the beginning of next week.

[28:57] I hope on Tuesday to determine what needs to be transferred out of the, what we've

[29:02] already collected in the existing account.

[29:05] I just left $12,000 sitting on her desk also.

[29:11] I mean, it's in glumps because

[29:17] the desired schedule is that we collect in everything except

[29:23] the state historic fund because that one's going to take the longest, everything else, which would

[29:28] mean that about the 15th of January we should have in that restricted account about $395,000.

[29:37] The state historic fund will give us 80% of the money they've promised, which means that they will

[29:45] give us $160,000, so if you do some quick math that puts us at about $550, and what we

[29:54] need for the property is $500, and we need some extra for closing costs.

[30:00] But you see that that gives us enough to do this project, too. So we're not, we're not jeopardizing our money. And besides which they still have another $40,000 that they've promised us, they just won't give it to you all at once. And I usually they do 40%. You spend that and they give you another 40% and then you 20% and I said, you know, we can't do that because our spend is a one spend.

[30:28] and so they agreed that they would do the 80% in time for our closing. Right now the closing

[30:36] is set for Monday, January 30th. It would be held here in this room. Tom Waddle will

[30:44] from the title company will come to Silver Palm. I would expect that Debbie might be with him.

[30:50] We have not set a time, but if we made it late afternoon, who would we get a few of you?

[30:56] So that's that's a question I have because that would it would be wonderful to have a few people around.

[31:08] So when we find out a definite time, I think that we should do something that's it.

[31:22] As far as I know Cindy, I am also available and just really quickly, Tammy, deposited $33,000

[31:30] today, a big corn sheep society at 20, Albert Fry at three, and Sandra Dallas at $10,000

[31:39] 50.

[31:41] And I just put on her desk, what I put on her desk.

[31:47] 10,000 from the whole desk.

[31:51] Collective 2000 from Shackley, a tiny bit from me.

[31:58] And so that would go in.

[32:01] What we're going to transfer is about $110,000.

[32:05] So you can see they're coming in.

[32:07] And George Hunt Trust got in the mail today, Sandra's other $80,000, which she thought was

[32:15] being sent here.

[32:16] It doesn't matter.

[32:17] The trust will get it through their books and get it through us.

[32:21] So yes, it's all arriving, which is just sort of fascinating.

[32:28] And Sarah, I got a couple, another one that's just come in today.

[32:37] Oh, great.

[32:38] Yeah, yeah, which I have a little note on.

[32:42] If I can walk across the street and stuff that's you before I leave.

[32:45] Oh, okay, okay.

[32:46] Yep.

[32:48] So that's, that's where we go.

[32:51] Well, I think that we have discussed that we would do that.

[32:55] If you, but I don't think you ever voted on it.

[32:58] if you wish to to vote on it, or is that something we need to do, or do we just

[33:04] transfer the funds?

[33:07] You should be able to transfer the funds. I move that we transfer the

[33:14] SP, F and P, whatever funds. I have to get Marty on the phone to make it valid.

[33:22] Okay. So do we think we need to do it?

[33:26] Well, that's what I was asking you, do you think it's necessary?

[33:32] I, you know, I don't, but Cindy, you, you have more experience with this.

[33:38] Oh, I actually, you're transferring it within.

[33:40] You're not sending it.

[33:41] I don't think you have to vote on a transfer between your own accounts because you're

[33:47] going to do it all the time, all the time.

[33:49] I mean, and actually your basic account has five funds in it and you're forever.

[33:56] doing this. Yeah. Yeah. She's 100% right if it's internal. We don't have to do a motion at all.

[34:04] So hold an account into the real account, too. Cool idea. Yeah, well, both of them are your accounts.

[34:12] Yeah, I mean, holding ones like a holding account. Yes. Right. Yeah.

[34:16] It's just, it's just a lot of you have a savings account and a checking account. Yeah.

[34:20] It's essentially what we're doing here. Right. And you know, you hold the savings account. So you

[34:25] want to buy the things you were saving up for, that's essentially what was happening.

[34:31] The transfer will be, I think it's $110,321.79.

[34:38] You think?

[34:40] I think.

[34:42] What's her mind?

[34:43] Yeah.

[34:44] Let me $78.

[34:47] So that's where we are.

[34:50] More news about the January 30th, and yes, we will try to get that.

[34:55] that back to Steve Hoffman as soon as we can.

[35:00] I'm not gonna stop him from gathering and listening to needs.

[35:04] Right.

[35:05] And I'm doing that way approved it with the wait

[35:08] and for the attorney to look over the agreement.

[35:10] Yeah.

[35:10] And it's Sarah writes to Joe and I will write to Joe also

[35:14] and say, this is what I discovered.

[35:16] And so we have proceeded with this firm

[35:20] because we had these.

[35:21] and at the advice of, because actually it was Becky Amman who called him up and said,

[35:28] this is what needs to happen.

[35:31] And you need to stay with your price.

[35:33] Yeah.

[35:33] Not cool.

[35:35] And, you know, I'm, anyway, it was very nice.

[35:39] She had it resolved in an hour and a half.

[35:42] Oh, yeah.

[35:43] Cindy, I mean, stars aligned.

[35:46] Wonderful that we're able to take advantage of your

[35:49] years of experience and wonderful connections on this, just very, very helpful and timely.

[35:59] Can I also throw out, I think it would be nice to thank Tammy very much for really persisting on getting this account established.

[36:11] It was far more than we anticipated it was going to be to get it in place.

[36:16] Yes, I agree.

[36:19] I agree.

[36:20] Yeah, we've gotten it done.

[36:24] And that's a really important one.

[36:28] Oh, I would ask there's one other interesting thing about this.

[36:34] The conservation easement itself costs money for the baseline

[36:37] and for the donation into the stewardship for the...

[36:43] And actually, the State of Stark fund will pay that bill.

[36:51] And that bill is going to be larger than I expected it to be, but they will pay it.

[36:58] And we're going to have to figure out how we organize that payment, but that's why when

[37:04] you look at the contract that comes from them, hopefully by end of next week, if not very

[37:11] very beginning of January, it will be for more than the $200,000. It will be for that plus the

[37:18] 72,000 that's going to go into a constation. And ultimately, that will leave us hopefully with

[37:25] a little bit of money to do a little bit of maybe signage and a little bit of cleanup in a couple of spots.

[37:32] Okay.

[37:33] I'm not breaking something that I want to draw out here in my conversation with Joe besides the environmental assessment.

[37:45] I also asked her what she thought the town should do to lower our liability once we do on it.

[37:56] And she said, of course, that I should talk to the Sorcerer.

[38:02] She don't know that Sorcerer offers liability coverage for something like that.

[38:07] But she said that one thing that we should definitely plan for and take care of as soon as we can is some signage, some no no trespassing signs on sites that have hazards and stuff like that.

[38:25] And so I agree that we should be as proactive as we can in getting that done.

[38:32] Yeah. And I got told Joe,

[38:35] um, me personally, I'm more of the natural selection type of people want to go up there

[38:43] and fall on a mineshaft and.

[38:46] Yeah.

[38:48] But in my position as mayor of the town, my responsibility or part of my responsibility

[38:53] So the ability is protecting the interest of the town and so I think that's something

[38:59] that we need to keep in mind and plan for is doing everything we can to mitigate the

[39:06] risks involved with this type of property.

[39:10] And I think there are a couple of sites that a couple of things should be done fairly

[39:15] immediately.

[39:16] That's why I'm hoping and it looks like it will, but I will only put it as a hope at

[39:23] this point that we end up with a small pot, not a huge pot, but to do exactly, you know,

[39:29] we may want a couple of cameras, a couple of places we may want, um, a little bit of cleanup,

[39:34] a couple of places, um, you know, especially at the far end. I mean, basically it's the smug

[39:40] burn, the mendota that you need to play. Right. Most of the rest of it is a little bit inaccessible

[39:46] and certainly inaccessible in the winter time, so it gives us a little bit of a shot of time.

[39:50] But those two should get some immediate notification to the public that this is what's happened and this is what's wrong.

[40:01] So I agree with that entirely.

[40:03] Also, the master plan for it is coming along rather well too.

[40:07] So we will talk about that more in January because they'll end up with a list of immediate recommendations.

[40:17] And I want to make clear, and I've said it before I want to make clear, again, I'm not trying to throw a wrench in there.

[40:25] I get that.

[40:26] I'm trying to make sure that our base is recovered.

[40:30] Right. And thank you because it made me double think and go back and say, OK, maybe I better regroup what I think I know.

[40:40] Oh, and yes, well, that happens,

[40:45] especially when it gets into the legal ramifications

[40:48] of land around here.

[40:51] That's why it's helpful to know where here is.

[40:55] Right.

[40:55] Yeah, okay.

[40:57] You have anything else for?

[40:58] I do not.

[40:59] Okay.

[41:00] I think that's plenty enough.

[41:01] Well, thank you very much.

[41:03] Yeah, I know speaking for myself,

[41:07] and I think I'm speaking for most of the town.

[41:11] Thank you so much for all the effort

[41:14] and work that you put into this.

[41:16] I was sort of fascinating, Sam.

[41:18] You know, it's amazing.

[41:21] Thank you again so much, Cindy.

[41:24] Yeah, well, we're not there.

[41:26] Let's get high these 30th of January, OK?

[41:33] We'll make it.

[41:34] Yeah, we'll make it.

[41:35] at this point, I'm quite, I'm feeling rather positive about it. So, so this is, this is good. And it's,

[41:42] um, you know, it's always interesting. You take on these crazy projects, it's always interesting.

[41:49] Okay. Thank you.

[41:50] Sarah, I'm going to throw this little piece of paper at you in the next two minutes. Okay.

[41:55] That sounds great. I got the light on.

[41:58] All right. All right. Thank you.

[42:11] I'm going to get out of here.

[42:22] I want to get back to my Christmas

[42:29] This, at all, we just want to be clear about whether or not we're proceeding with an upgrade for the town's EC membership and plan for payment before the new year employers council membership.

[42:48] I know we've talked about this before as a budgeting committee, we have been strongly advised by Joe our attorney that we should upgrade from I think it's the core to the consulting membership and it is it's stiff, it's $3,300 for this new membership but it comes with benefits that

[43:18] that she really believes are timely and important for us to have as a municipality.

[43:24] So we just want to put it out there as, you know, to solicit support and hopefully

[43:36] a vote to proceed with upgrading our membership.

[43:40] And Sharon, I both seem to remember that we've voted on this once before, but we don't

[43:47] I don't remember when I was in degrees so or whatever. So do I hear a lot to upgrade?

[43:54] I move we upgrade the town's EC membership.

[43:57] You guys and I'll get Marty on the line, but Chris, you can scoot.

[44:01] Is that okay?

[44:01] Thank you. I appreciate it. You guys have a good night.

[44:04] All right. You're not here for a second.

[44:08] OK. We're voting.

[44:09] 90 seconds.

[44:10] OK. OK.

[44:11] We're voting to upgrade our employers council membership as we've discussed before, but I don't think we actually formally voted on it. Are you in agreement?

[44:22] What are we doing? The employees council membership? Yeah, because the attorney has advised us to do so because it increases the breadth of services we can get when it comes to critical questions about staffing, etc.

[44:40] We have a membership that we've had for years and it is an organization that provides municipalities and other organizations with, okay, it is relevant to the personnel committee.

[44:59] Okay, welcome.

[45:03] We're voting now to increase the membership from the core membership, which we've had for years to what they call the consulting membership, which, as Joe explains, provides us with a greater breadth of critical services that we need particularly at this time.

[45:26] All right. All right. Thanks, Marty. Bye.

[45:29] All right. You too. Very Christmas, Marty.

[45:35] So he says yes.

[45:38] Okay.

[45:39] As do I.

[45:40] Okay. And Kathy.

[45:42] Hi.

[45:43] Okay.

[45:44] That's for eyes.

[45:46] Cool. Is this something Joe uses then?

[45:49] Is this something Joe uses also?

[45:52] No, she didn't know of it. Something that no users, but it provides us with all kinds of services and consulting and access to a.

[46:07] We used it.

[46:08] We've used it.

[46:11] Everything costs something.

[46:13] As much as we kid with the membership that we had.

[46:15] And I think Sarah has been talking to them in the last week or so about some issues that really isn't covered under the membership we have now, but they've been gracious enough to help us.

[46:32] Is that correct, Sarah?

[46:34] That is correct and you know they've provided us with sort of fundamental information and more on options that we can pay for or we increase our membership we would get for free kind of thing.

[46:51] Okay, thanks.

[46:54] Cool, yeah.

[46:58] Yeah, so I'm not saying I'm not sure what else makes sense for us to cover.

[47:05] Um, I mean, look again.

[47:09] I can go.

[47:10] I've got it up on the screen, I think, but.

[47:13] I'm very sorry for me.

[47:15] We lost Chris for C.

[47:16] The rest of the staff, I don't think there's going to do much good just for the three of us to talk about it's a budget committee schedule budget development debrief plan for 2024 personal management committee.

[47:42] I think that's all stuff that we should deal with at the next meeting when everybody's

[47:48] here unless you.

[47:50] I agree.

[47:51] Okay.

[47:52] Cool.

[47:54] Alrighty.

[47:54] All right.

[47:55] Do I hear a motion to adjourn?

[47:56] I'm so motion to adjourn.

[47:59] I should.

[47:59] I have never got to do that before.

[48:05] We don't have Chris or Sasha.

[48:06] Yeah.

[48:08] Everybody have a very Merry Christmas.

[48:13] Essentially still.

[48:16] Oh, I can imagine there be any nays to that one.

[48:22] No, yes, did oh, did oh, same to you.

[48:27] Okay, Sarah, I'm going to leave this contractor.

[48:30] We're waiting for Joe's word on right here in front of the keyboard on the table.

[48:35] Okay. So I don't take it with me and lose it. Okay. And then as soon as we hear back from

[48:41] Joe, I'll come over and sign it. That sounds good to me. Cool. All right. Can you guys shut the lights

[48:48] off and shut the machine? Yeah. Where did that? Cool. And yeah, Mary Christmas did on on what you said,

[48:56] Sam. Kathy, have a good one. You too. And don't forget the recording. Oh, ah, thank you.

[49:03] Um, stop, share, okay, um, recording,

[49:13] stop recording.

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