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Public notice is given that the
Smithfield City Council will meet in a
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regularly scheduled meeting at 96 South
Maine, Smithfield, Utah on Wednesday,
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September 9th, 2026. Meeting will begin
at 6 PM. Like to welcome everybody here
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tonight and uh uh let you know that the
mayor is not able to be with us tonight.
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So I will be conducting the meeting and
uh I will also be uh starting off with
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the pledge of allegiance and with a
prayer. So if you would all please stand
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and
follow with the pledge of allegiance.
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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» Our dear father in heaven, we are
grateful for the opportunity we have to
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meet together tonight as a community, as
a city council. We're grateful for this
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beautiful country that we live in. We're
grateful for this beautiful state that
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we live in. And we're grateful for this
beautiful city that we live in. We're
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grateful for the blessings that we have
here, for the moisture that we have been
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able to receive. And we're grateful for
all of the blessings which we enjoy on a
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daily basis here. And we pray that that
will bless us this night. That we may be
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able to discuss the affairs of the city.
That we may be able to make conscious
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and wise decisions. That we may be able
to have uh good discourse one with
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another. that we may be able to be
productive and that we may be able to be
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positive and that we may be blessed with
a continuation of of peace and freedom
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here in Utah and in the United States
that we may have thy continuing watchful
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eye over us. And we ask and say these
things in the name of thy son Jesus
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Christ. Amen.
>> Amen.
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» Well, thank you. Okay. Um, we'll go
ahead and move to the first order of
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business today, which is the approval of
the city council meeting minutes from
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August 12th, 2026.
I would entertain a motion.
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» I'll make a motion to approve council
meeting minutes from August 12th, 2026.
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» Okay. Motion has been made. I'll second
it. Seconded by Chris. Uh, how do we
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vote? Jay,
>> yes.
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» John,
>> yes.
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» Chris,
>> yes. Jim.
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» Yes.
>> And I vote yes. Also
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is unanimous.
This time would like to open the meeting
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for public comment on items that are not
included on tonight's agenda.
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Time is now yours. If you would uh if
you wish to comment, come up to the
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microphone. Please state your name, use
the microphone, and uh we'll proceed.
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Hi, I'm Tom Hilton of Smithfield
residence live near Chris. Um, I just
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wanted to say thanks to the city
council. Now, I'm going to thank you for
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something. I'm not entirely sure how
much you had to do with it, but I want
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to thank you anyway because I did talk
to Chris about it and he and I had some
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back and forth. Um, I was really really
worried about the pedestrian traffic uh
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crossing Highway 91 to go to the Summit
Elementary School and then come home
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from it every day. And I went as far as
to suggest to Chris that we might want
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to pursue at the state the construction
of an underpass, a pedestrian underpass
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there. You know, he was like, "Well, I
don't know. That's kind of a hard
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thing." But but one way or another, a
really, really good thing happened. And
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I kind of think I ought to give at least
you, if not everybody, credit for it.
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Um, the the the school attendance
boundaries have been realigned so that
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kids don't have to cross Highway 91 to
go to Summon Elementary School. And I
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can't tell you how relieved I am and I
really, really appreciate it. So, thanks
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to you, thanks to whoever else was
involved. Now, I'm going to add, you
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know, I didn't just come to say thank
you, right? I'm gonna add that the
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problem hasn't gone away.
Um, we've still we've got the the
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Central Park on the west side of Highway
91. We've got Forester Acres Park. We
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got Smithfield Temple coming on. And who
knows what else will come out. You know,
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development is proceeding a pace over
there. Um, so I think uh we really
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really need to look at some way to get
pedestrians back and forth across
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Highway 91 safely. Um, that idea of of
of you know the crosswalk of the traffic
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light, that all helps. But if you've
been there and watched how cars go
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through there, you know that's not safe.
Somebody's going to get killed there.
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And I would really rather solve the
problem before a fatality occurs.
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So there you go. You want to put that on
the next agenda?
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» Thank you very much, Tom.
>> Thanks. Thanks, Tom.
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» I should have stated that we open public
comment at 603. So,
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Caroli Stokes. Um, I have a request.
City Council seems to fall under the
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week of homecoming week at Sky View and
Wednesday's always their parade.
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And I was wondering in the future
because I think it's kind of sad that
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this is being held the same time the
parade is and if in the future if if the
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council is, you know, the same week as
the home the homecoming week, could they
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change it to another week in the month?
And I just wanted to make that
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suggestion request that um I just think
it's sad that that if people want to
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come here and then want to go to that
that it makes it hard that in the future
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you just you know ch change it to
another Wednesday
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anyway or tell Sky View to change I
don't know
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tell Sky View to change it to another
Wednesday but that was my that was my
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request. Thanks. Thank you Caroline.
>> Thanks.
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Any other desired public comment?
Okay. If not, we will close public
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comment at 6:07 p.m. Move on to agenda
item number three. presentation and
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discussion with representatives from the
Utah Coalition of Cities and Councils
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UC3. I understand we have Sarah
Davenport Smith here with us. So,
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» we allotted for a 10 to 15 minute window
there. So, thank you very much, Sarah.
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» Time is yours.
>> Right. Thank you so much for allowing me
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to come up and speak to you tonight
about the Utah Coalition of Cities and
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Counties or UC3 as we affectionately
like to call it. Um, should I tell you,
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Justin, to Okay, there we go.
All right. Um, today during our
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legislative sessions, it's not just
about the bills that are being passed.
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It's about what these bills are doing
collectively to each one of our local
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governments authority. As you guys have
probably noticed that over the past
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several years, however long you have
been city council members, you've
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probably seen bills pass and
requirements come down, unfunded
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mandates, all that fun stuff. And many
times you're seeing, oh well, I guess we
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don't get to make this decision exactly
the way that we used to anymore. So
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that's one of the reasons why U3 UC3
exists.
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and we just help to help you guys
recognize those shifts that are coming
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early instead of after the fact. That's
one of the main things that we that we
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offer.
Go ahead. Next. So, our team um of
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course I am I'm the founder managing
director and just so you know I have
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eight years of city council experience
under my belt and um very very proud of
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that. So, I know exactly what you guys
go through here on the daily and I thank
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you for each one of your service. It's a
lot to do and yet it's a it's a
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wonderful job. I'm so glad I was able to
do it as I'm sure you guys are too.
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Oops, sorry. Didn't want to do that.
Bernardet Brockman is um Oh, sorry. Uh
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could you go back one? Thanks. Uh
Bernardet Brockman, she is our our head
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trainer. Uh she is uh mostly Utah
native, but she has served our Utah
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National Guard for about 30 years. And
so she has ample leadership experience
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and also policy development experience,
too. And her her presentation and
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training skills are just amazing. Uh
Bill Lee um he is our head board adviser
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and um he has a lot of different
experience business. Um some of you
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might know him from uh the Utah County
Council. um he was a commissioner there
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for a few years and so he he brings that
perspective to help make sure that we
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are um encompassing all the things that
counties will deal with as well. Uh and
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then Heather Eder who uh has probably
interfaced with uh your staff. I know
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she did with Justin a little bit. And
she is um a a coach actually by trade,
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but she loves people and her
communication skills are beyond uh
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beyond what I can say. And so she just
helps make sure everybody is well taken
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care of. Okay. Next.
So what do we do?
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Local authority and governance analysis.
That is a different one. So everybody
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has
lobbyists. Most people have lobbyists.
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Most people belong to associations.
The Utah League of Cities and Towns,
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fabulous associations. So is the Utah
Association of Counties.
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We are different in the fact that we
bring something additional to the table,
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an added tool that they don't have. And
it's something that we really do feel
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that you need. And I know as a former
city council person, it was very helpful
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um realizing this tool and creating it
for cities and counties here in Utah.
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But again, we analyze not just what the
bill is going to to do structurally, but
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what it does to your authority, to your
finances, to your operations, to legal
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positions.
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Again, lobbyists can go ahead and
advocate for positions, but first of
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all, our local leaders need to know
which position they should have. And
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especially according to that
constitutional analysis side, it's very
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important because that is the one oath
that we all swear to uphold our Utah
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constitution and our federal
constitutions. And actually, they are
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fabulous tools for analyzing policy. And
if you want to keep local authority,
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your constitution is one of the best
tools to help you do that. And it's a
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very strong foundation to legally
speaking.
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Okay. Next.
So, let's get into the details of what
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each of those um areas do, what those
services are.
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The local authority and governance
analysis. Again, this is where where I
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talked about those authority shifts,
recognizing where those authority shifts
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are going to happen.
We examine due process, property rights,
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delegation, other safeguards, identify
the costs that are coming up, unfunded
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mandates, revenue implications. How many
know that when we utilize tools like tax
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increment financing that shifts the
revenue streams a bit?
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And so we also help to make sure what
new duties you're going to have um or
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maybe what you won't have, but also the
procedures, the deadlines that are going
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to be proposed. Um and then just try to
help you come up with a um like a
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checklist or even just a a navigation
sheet of of how you can go ahead and
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implement these things within the city.
Next,
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of course, the the advocacy side.
Again, we were able to do this um around
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also individual communities priorities
um because we can run those special
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analyses for you um on certain bills
because there are many times where we
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have a bill that is passed statewide and
it may
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benefit Salt Lake City but maybe not so
much Smithfield or maybe not so much
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Saratoga Springs where I'm from. So when
when that happens, because it does and
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it will continue to happen, when that
happens, we can help you see, okay,
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here's actually what it's going to do
for Smithfield and here's the positions
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that we recommend you guys take on this
action. So again, just trying to help
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you get out in front of that. And also
if there are recommended changes, we are
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ready and able to make those recommended
changes and amendments to those bills.
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Okay.
Next. Yep. Implementation decision
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support. Again, it's not just about what
the new legislation is going to make you
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do, but we're going to help you be
prepared ahead of time because even when
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those decisions are made at the state
level, they come down to the city and
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the county and the town level and then
your citizens are saying, "Why are you
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making us do this or why did this
change?" And you get to say a lot,
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"Well, this was actually a bill that was
passed and we're simply responding to
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it." Well, being able to again have this
understanding ahead of time, you guys
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can prepare already what you're going to
get people prepared for within your
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city.
And then of course we also help you
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identify where those local options and
discretion still exist because there are
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several times where a lot of cities have
given up certain decision-making
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authority when they didn't have to. It
was just an assumption that was made.
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And so again, this is one of the things
that we help you guys do. Okay. Next,
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education and training.
We've done uh several webinars and um
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I'll I'll have you guys look at the
packets in a little bit, but um we
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create a lot of different materials that
uh are very helpful for people um like
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this one in particular. Um
navigating regional authority districts,
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executive frameworks, and local
government authority. a practical con a
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practical constitutional playbook for
Utah local leaders. So, this is
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something we put out right after the
session. Really took in what um Senate
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Bill 284 did, which was that the big
land use bill that changed quite a lot.
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Um now a lot of our land use decisions
are going to be dependent upon water,
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which you know that's guess makes sense.
We're in a desert.
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All right. So, we do a lot of different
uh trainings. Um, but mainly what we
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want to do is to equip you guys to be
able to ask better questions when things
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come down the pike. Be able to ask those
questions that really help to defend
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that local authority position for
yourselves and your citizens.
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Okay. Next.
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So, you you have two basic models of
representation. And there is your very
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traditional path which um we all are
very very used to. You simply um go down
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the the traditional advocacy route. You
have the bill the summary position and
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you do your thing at the capital and
then you deal with compliance.
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Our path uh we look at bills and of
course a lot of the bills that are
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coming up. So there's the interim
session happening right now. some bills
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are being created and talked about and
um so we look at the bill the
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constitutions we bring in case law which
a lot of people have asked there's a lot
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of different views about the
constitution what is your view on it
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well we use the case law to determine
what that particular view is on our
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constitutions and then we look at the
authority shift and that cumulative
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impact
and when I say cumulative impact
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It's not just when you look at one
single bill because most of the time
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when you have um like a report come from
the League of Cities and Towns, you'll
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see a list of the bills they support,
those they don't, ones that they're
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neutral on, and then afterwards you'll
kind of get a report. This is what it
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is, this is what it's going to do. But
what we have done instead is say okay if
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we have this group of bills that are
being passed and a lot of them have to
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do with for example housing housing
policy which includes transportation and
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water right and so you bring those all
together and say what is happening
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cumulatively with all of these what is
what is going to happen at the local
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level that's where we found this
authority shift taking place and a lot
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more decision-making authority is being
shifted to the state and away from our
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local governments. And so that's one of
the things that we're helping everybody
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to become aware of and you know you can
do something about it.
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Okay. Next,
for those of you who are visual, this is
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visual. This is our methodology. Again,
um we start with our constitutions and
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case law and then we start bringing in
the the local government authority test.
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You know, what is this what is this
proposed policy going to do to
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decision-making authority? Is it getting
closer to the people or is it getting
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further away from the people? Simple
question, good principle, and it's a
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great way to analyze what a policy
actually does. And then of course
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there's the practical application. You
know what what is this actually going to
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take to implement uh fiscally what
changes are going to happen? Um again we
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think that having this methodology in
your toolbox results in clearer
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decisions, stronger communities and
better governance for you guys.
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Next.
Okay. So, two ways to engage with UC3.
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We offer a citizen membership and it's
totally free. We do our public
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newsletters, which there is an example
of the newsletter in your guys's packets
[20:12]
that I left for you. Um, there are some
select public webinars that we just
[20:17]
offer to everybody, and then any
discounted training rates, and it's, you
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know, that's for anybody, citizens or
leaders who are just interested in
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following this kind of constitutional
governance
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um idea. at the municipal membership
level. Again, there's more of that that
[20:35]
full advocacy uh package that we do
offer, but more importantly, it's that
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detailed analysis. It's helping you to
come up with a game plan of okay, this
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is what it's going to look like when
this passes or now that it's passed, now
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this is what we have to do. Um
we also have um attorney access uh as
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well. We contract uh with a particular
firm who is very familiar with um local
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governments and again more exclusive
trainings, webinars, conferences that we
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offer. So um you know one membership
will keep you informed and the other one
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gives you a seat at the table.
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Next.
So again, at the end of the day, it's
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not just a it's not just a service
decision. It's more of a question of
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what kind of guidance are you looking
for? Is is this a kind of tool u that
[21:39]
you're needing to add to your toolbox?
If you want help understanding not only
[21:44]
what legislation is going to require you
to do, but also how your authority is
[21:50]
going to change, then that's where we
come in.
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Okay. Next,
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the 2025 and 2026 sessions really showed
us something important. Um, it's not
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just about the policies that are being
passed, but it's about who are going to
[22:08]
be making the decisions behind those
policies. Now,
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of course, we can do what traditional
advocacy firms do, but it's more about
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what UC3 adds to this picture. It's
different. And again, we exist to help
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keep decision-making authority as close
to local governments as possible.
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And that's it. And if you want to take
out your your packets, I've given you
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guys um several pieces of information.
Didn't want to overwhelm you, but I
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wanted to show you a little bit about
what we what we do offer. Um there's a
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let's see on the left side
you'll see um this first one it's a
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really nice breakdown of why why us what
do we add what's different um there's
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some other basic information on uh the
left side about who we are and what we
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do and then on the right side I've made
sure that you guys have one of our um
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more recent newsletters that was from
earlier um in the spring. I think we did
[23:21]
it in May and that was in response to
the AI data center issue which still
[23:27]
seems to be a pretty hot topic around
here and elsewhere. And um and then also
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our legislative wrap-up report from the
session. And so you'll see I go into a
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little bit more detail about what the
cumulative effect is and all that good
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stuff. So um do you have any questions?
I know we're out of time.
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» I just like the fact that you guys are
taking the Constitution
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um you know as as a part of the the lens
through how we're looking at this.
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» Um I think that's something that's easy
to forget or get lost especially when
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there's so many bills that that come
through.
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» Yeah, it is. And like I said, it's a
really practical tool. Um, I've been
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super super super excited about using it
and I think a lot of people especially
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our legislators are recognizing and they
really appreciate the fact that we bring
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this up like saying well we actually did
a constitutional analysis and it is
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something they used to do at the capital
on all the bills um but they've they've
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chosen not to do that. So anyways again
it's uh it's another service that we
[24:38]
also provide for them as well. we make
sure they get a a weekly um
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impact report essentially on the key
bills that we're following and um how
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those bills are stacking up and the even
the amendments that we recommend in
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order to bring those back into
compliance. So,
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» so having said that, what is your
perception over the last few years of
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how these in general these bills look?
Do they do they tend to follow the
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constitution or are they wildly in
different directions because people want
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them to go those directions?
>> Well, actually you would be happy to
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know that there have been over the past
few sessions there have been only only a
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handful that have been like absolutely
red line no we cannot do this. Most of
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them are yellow and I like to use
stoplight colors. So, you know, green
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is, you know, thumbs up. Yellow is
caution, which always means amendment.
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Most of the bills reside in that yellow
area where some of it's okay, but
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there's some of it that needs to be
changed. And and you know what? That's
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fine because that's what the session is
all about. Unfortunately, we only have
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45 days to do it. So, it's really fast.
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Are your thoughts and concerns taken
into consideration during the session
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when you approach them with your
recommendations? Do they consider
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» some of them doations? Yes. Yes.
Actually, there have been I've been very
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happy to note that there have been
several that um even one of the bills
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that just got stopped because I said
this is not going to work and I showed
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you why. And um that was that was very
good to note. Um some of the things that
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have been a little uh more challenging
have been a lot of the housing bills um
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that we have been commenting on and
analyzing
[26:39]
because uh there's such a a big push to
have a certain um amount of housing go
[26:45]
in statewide as quickly as possible. And
we also have the Olympics coming up too.
[26:51]
And so there's a lot of push to get
certain things especially transit
[26:54]
oriented development in. And so when you
when you have that coming up, you you
[27:00]
get a a little bit of a a push back when
it comes to trying to keep, you know,
[27:06]
more of the decisions like that local.
But we stand very firmly on our article
[27:12]
11 of our constitution where our cities
are granted. Even though you're still a
[27:18]
general government city, you're still
granted special authority when it comes
[27:22]
to your communities, when it comes to
planning for communities and such. So,
[27:26]
it's different than counties.
>> Great.
[27:31]
» One other quick question. Have you seen
any um yellow u in regards to special
[27:39]
authority districts, things like that?
>> Yes.
[27:44]
» Yes. Um in fact well we weren't here
when um some of the authority districts
[27:51]
quite a few of them went in but as more
have gone in um we have we've done a lot
[27:58]
of analysis on it and made a lot of
suggestions um for some roll backs with
[28:05]
that and I I do think you know I mean AI
data centers whatever you think about
[28:10]
them the good news is is it's brought
that idea actually to the top the idea
[28:16]
of what are these authority districts?
What's behind them? Is it right that
[28:21]
they should have this kind of authority
and um you know and there are now
[28:26]
lawsuits that are happening right now
just because of that. So it is good that
[28:30]
the question is being asked because um
it's according to our analysis it's very
[28:36]
clear in the constitution these should
not have happened uh the way they
[28:40]
happened in the first place. And in
fact, if you want to read about that, it
[28:44]
is in that newsletter. So there's more
information.
[28:49]
» Kind of interested in your funding model
or your organization. Uh where your
[28:54]
revenue comes from? Oh yeah. Where your
expenses are going? Are you taxpayer
[28:58]
funded in any way or is this strictly
through dues with cities or uh are any
[29:03]
of your expenses? Certainly there's
personnel expenses. Uh are are you
[29:09]
supporting any candidates financially?
Um in any ways. I'm just curious about
[29:13]
kind of your approach to funding and
running your organization.
[29:18]
» Sure. Um so in your packets there is a
nice flyer uh that has the information
[29:24]
about how um how the due structure
works. So that is the primary method of
[29:30]
how we're funded is from dues from
clients uh from members. And uh no, we
[29:37]
don't have a we don't have a pack. Um so
we're we're not uh invested in elections
[29:43]
or anything like that. And we're not
publicly funded either. So this is this
[29:48]
is private, but um yeah, it well
membership dues I guess those those are
[29:55]
public. So, so yes, uh there is that,
but um it's it's more of just a a
[30:01]
membership association to so you guys
know that this is your funds and so you
[30:08]
have the biggest say of what happens in
this association. We wanted to keep it
[30:13]
clean that way.
>> Very good. Thank you.
[30:18]
» Any other questions,
>> Sarah? Thank you so much for for coming.
[30:24]
wonderful presentation and appreciate
the packets and
[30:27]
» yeah,
>> thank you so much.
[30:28]
» Yes,
>> we definitely appreciate your pro your
[30:31]
approach to this. It's
>> I shouldn't say that it's unique, but it
[30:35]
is. I mean, that should be something
that we should be doing already in my
[30:39]
opinion, but yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, I'm happy to help you guys.
[30:43]
Feel free to reach out anytime.
>> Thank you. Keep up the good work.
[30:50]
Okay, we'll proceed on to item number
four, discussion and possible vote on
[30:56]
ordinance 2026-13,
an ordinance amending the Smithfield
[31:00]
City Municipal Code Title 17, zoning
regulations, chapter 17.92, Accessory
[31:07]
Dwelling Unit, section 1792.101,
purpose and chapter 17.92.2
[31:15]
conditions 17.92.30 30 application
procedures and chapter 17.120
[31:23]
use matrix table section 17121.010
10 using
[31:30]
excuse me use all allowance matrix and
with that we'll turn the time over to
[31:36]
Brian.
Thanks. So we're doing two major things
[31:41]
here. One changing the code and one is
altering the use allowance matrix.
[31:51]
So last year's session, the state
session made some minor changes. I'd say
[31:59]
minor based on what we were doing, but
major compared to what other cities and
[32:03]
states or cities were doing for detached
uh dwelling units. So there are a few
[32:11]
things that we made some changes to and
I'll go through those right now. So the
[32:15]
first thing is they now allow
certificate of occupancy for any new
[32:22]
detached dwelling unit.
We put the text in there. In all
[32:28]
technicality, the county takes care of
our building inspections and they
[32:33]
already issue a CFO for any new dwelling
unit.
[32:40]
Uh the next two changes are basically
new links to the state code. What
[32:47]
happened is
they used to have the entire portion of
[32:52]
LDMA or the land use portion of the
state code in 109.
[33:00]
They've revamped the whole thing
completely and moved it to 1021. And so
[33:06]
we've had to just update the links we
already had and therefore internal and
[33:12]
detached just to make it match the state
code where the big move took place.
[33:21]
Okay.
[33:25]
All right. We did add in that same
section, we added a sentence
[33:30]
that said that we wanted to specify that
internal
[33:35]
um accessory dwelling units were allowed
in the MPC. We know that the MPC has a
[33:42]
large array of sizes of lots
and in even in most of those they tend
[33:51]
to be smaller, some bigger than others,
but detached
[33:57]
dwelling units are very very difficult.
So they're not not allowed.
[34:04]
However, we wanted to make sure that the
verbiage was clear that internal
[34:09]
accessory units were definitely allowed
in those homes because they can build it
[34:15]
in their house. And we just wanted to
clarify that for people that had been
[34:20]
asking
[34:23]
1792030.
[34:27]
We actually altered the words and we
added the words accessory dwelling unit
[34:33]
and removed the words conditional use
permit. We did that because the new
[34:39]
state code says that no city is allowed
to use a conditional use permit for any
[34:48]
type of a dwelling unit.
They can use business licenses. They can
[34:54]
use applications.
they cannot use conditional use permits
[34:59]
that can add conditions to that dwelling
mix.
[35:04]
The second change was just some minor
word changes that allows
[35:12]
the the sentence to be more clear on how
and when.
[35:18]
And lastly,
when we took a t took a look at the
[35:23]
allowance matrix, we actually had
two lines that were essentially the same
[35:30]
thing that discussed accessory dwelling
units and then one line that called it a
[35:36]
residential unit.
So,
[35:40]
what we did,
since we haven't fixed this in a long,
[35:44]
long time, we just decided to fix it
while we were here. Essentially, we're
[35:49]
getting rid of the line that says
accessory residential unit
[35:54]
because it's redundant multiple times.
And we made sure that we have and then
[36:00]
we took the other two that were
basically a different wording of the
[36:05]
same thing and we combined them into
one.
[36:08]
showing where the dwelling unit is
allowed,
[36:13]
if that makes sense.
So, you've got detached and internal.
[36:20]
It's all one word there or one term on
the allowance matrix line.
[36:27]
So, those are the changes we made. Any
questions?
[36:31]
Did it was approved by the planning
commission. I always forget that.
[36:36]
Always. I just had one question and I
think it's just a matter of
[36:40]
clarification on 92.02
uh B.
[36:45]
You've got all of that highlighted
there. It's regarding the maybe uh let's
[36:50]
see right scroll down or scroll up a
little more.
[36:56]
Oh, sorry. Wrong direction. Scroll the
other up. There you go.
[37:00]
» Oh,
>> my bad. Keep going. Right there. uh that
[37:03]
be
um the any detached over 650 is that
[37:08]
new?
Okay. The one part is new and and I'm
[37:12]
glad you're asking this is I wasn't sure
if it was new or great clarification
[37:16]
» adding the
>> before the state said you can't have
[37:22]
more than one
additional stall requested or required
[37:27]
for any unit.
In the new legislation, they came out
[37:34]
and said, in fact, I believe they're the
ones that came up with the 650 foot
[37:39]
rule, and they allow cities to request
two stalls
[37:46]
for a larger detached unit.
And so, it really
[37:53]
it really only goes towards detached
units that are larger.
[37:59]
In any other case, whether it's smaller,
internal, detached, if it's smaller than
[38:04]
650, we still have the requirement to
add one
[38:09]
one additional stall. So, we just did
change it for two stalls if it's above
[38:15]
650. That's almost something we pulled
word for word from that state code.
[38:22]
It makes sense to where you have more
people. If it's a larger detached unit
[38:29]
there, there's a greater possibility for
more vehicular use. So, we're mandating
[38:34]
two on the larger.
>> Okay,
[38:37]
great.
Okay. uh at this time open it up for is
[38:42]
there first of all is there any public
discussion on oh sorry
[38:48]
not necessary but is there any other
discussion within the
[38:52]
» I had a couple questions um
>> that I'm just kind of trying to learn
[38:56]
here I noticed absolutely
>> uh so we've got um
[39:02]
» when I was kind of looking through this
and I I did go look at the state code
[39:05]
and they and they talk about internal
like what you were mentioning and then
[39:10]
detached. But I noticed that in a lot of
our verbiage we say attached instead of
[39:16]
internal.
Is there a reason for that? And could
[39:20]
that be construed slightly different
than internal? For example, if someone
[39:26]
decided they were going to create an
addition onto their house and it's
[39:32]
attached to their house.
>> Is that why we're using attached?
[39:36]
Because we want to allow that. That's
why we're using it.
[39:39]
» Okay.
>> The state does require us to allow it.
[39:43]
» Okay.
>> So, they require any type of
[39:48]
the way that they use it is internal for
a home. In all technicality, if you
[39:54]
build an addition to a home and make
that an accessory part and you meet all
[39:59]
of the requirements for the building
code, it's still considered internal.
[40:07]
And we found it better to use the word
attached.
[40:13]
And then the internal is actually in
different parts of the code and the
[40:17]
building code really specifies that out.
So when they inspect it, regardless
[40:23]
whether it's an attachment, uh,
detached, an apartment, that building
[40:29]
code really differentiates. And so,
>> yeah,
[40:33]
» that was one thing we just
>> That's great. Yeah. And I'm completely
[40:36]
okay with that. I just was kind of
trying to clarify if, you know, if there
[40:39]
was a specific reason for that. The
other question is, um, what's the
[40:44]
difference between an accessory
apartment and an accessory dwelling
[40:48]
unit? Is there something specifically
different about that or is that
[40:52]
» Nope.
>> Just an older verbiage? Do we want
[40:56]
» Do we want to update our code to be
consistent?
[40:59]
» Be consistent.
>> So that's what we're that's what we're
[41:01]
doing.
>> Okay. So because we still have it like
[41:03]
in C right there. It's still all over.
>> So
[41:09]
» twice in there.
>> I put I I It's not in this ordinance.
[41:15]
However, I made an image that made it a
little easier to see. and I showed it at
[41:19]
the commission.
What you're seeing here is accessory
[41:24]
apartment and accessory
residential unit
[41:29]
» and
I believe that there is an accessory
[41:34]
building. There's three. Okay. In all
technicality, we need two. We need one
[41:40]
that's an accessory dwelling unit and
one that's an accessory building.
[41:46]
» Okay. A long time ago, they just called
them residential units, but for about
[41:52]
the last decade, both state and a lot of
cities have started referring to them as
[41:59]
ADUs or accessory dwelling units.
>> Yeah,
[42:04]
» we're just following the basic
nomenclature that everybody's using. I
[42:10]
guess in 20 years if they start calling
them residential units, we could change
[42:14]
it back.
>> Yeah. So it doesn't matter that much,
[42:17]
but we wanted to be consistent. So
that's why we're trimming it down,
[42:23]
changing the name to a proper name that
everybody uses so that they understand
[42:27]
because if they read this and they go
read some article
[42:32]
» from the newspaper about state code,
then they have more questions and it
[42:39]
makes it more confusing.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I guess getting back to
[42:43]
my question, I noticed um in
uh 17.92.030
[42:51]
um C and it talks about accessory
apartments. Do we want to change that
[42:57]
verbiage?
>> Yeah, we can.
[42:59]
» Okay,
>> that's great. And then and then maybe
[43:02]
remove And then if you have that
completely removed, you could remove the
[43:07]
the um use matrix down below as well,
right? And remove the accessory
[43:14]
apartment from that.
>> Yeah. Well, so that's what we're doing
[43:18]
in the proposed. We're removing the word
apartment, but that that's that is a
[43:23]
good idea. We can
>> we can say accessory dwelling
[43:29]
» unit rather than apartment.
>> Okay.
[43:32]
» And and it just it's great. It just
keeps
[43:35]
» good for consistency
>> the consistency of the words. So yeah.
[43:40]
» Yep. Yep.
>> Cool.
[43:42]
» One thing that I noticed under
[43:48]
» the conditions
>> I just keep thinking.
[43:53]
Sorry, it's uh 17920
[43:58]
where it says um you can have a
temporary absence of three years for
[44:03]
this the particular things it says
temporary job assignment, sbatical and
[44:06]
voluntary service. Does military fall
into any of those or is that something
[44:10]
that we feel like we should add?
>> I believe
[44:14]
the purpose was there. I don't remember.
[44:21]
» I think it's vague enough that
>> I think it I think it just I think the
[44:25]
way we word it just covers that.
>> I don't ever and to be honest, there's
[44:31]
only one time in six years that someone
asked. They went on a church mission
[44:38]
» and that's the only time they've ever
asked. And it really wasn't a hard no
[44:43]
because their son took over the main
unit they were living in.
[44:47]
» So technically was occupied.
>> Yeah.
[44:54]
» Yep. Yeah.
>> That's what I figured, but I don't know
[44:56]
if we needed to be more specific or not.
>> And then I did have one other just
[45:02]
question and this would just be kind of,
you know, have we thought about this? Um
[45:08]
but uh Utah permits m municipalities to
prohibit rentals under 30 days and adus
[45:17]
under 90 days.
>> Um that the Utah code basically says
[45:22]
that we can
>> is that something that we want to detail
[45:26]
in here? Is that something we care
about? What that would that would
[45:30]
eliminate was and I don't care one way
or another but if we're thinking about
[45:34]
it maybe we need to make a decision uh
whether they could use that as an Airbnb
[45:39]
or a VBO you know
>> we have thought about that
[45:43]
» okay
>> and I'll tell you and I'll give you the
[45:45]
explanation so
in the past
[45:50]
there are some cities especially larger
ones and cities that utilize tourism a
[45:56]
lot
that require specific
[46:01]
applications,
payments,
[46:05]
andor business licenses for Airbnbs.
Um,
[46:11]
the past three councils, we've
definitely had this discussion quite a
[46:16]
few times. In essence, and I don't I'll
just explain a little bit so that it
[46:22]
makes sense.
When you create a shortterm rental,
[46:28]
in order to be able to use it or utilize
it or even make money, you have to
[46:34]
attach yourself to one of the companies
that put your apartment out there and
[46:42]
they do the marketing for you. And these
companies are very strict in what they
[46:47]
require, what they allow. They they
actually allow people to um it's like
[46:55]
Google where you can put your level of
service that you feel like you received
[47:00]
and everyone can do that. So after a lot
of years of discussing this, we didn't
[47:08]
feel a need to have any kind of a
requirement
[47:12]
whether they're in a detached uh uh
internal or the the whole home because
[47:20]
and and it's held up so far because
those companies require so much that if
[47:28]
they don't keep that up, they don't make
any money and they have to use it as a
[47:32]
normal residents anyway. So that's why
we haven't really implored more use for
[47:40]
short-term rental.
There are some smaller cities that have
[47:46]
and talking to the planners, it just
seems more of an inconvenience
[47:52]
because they always the short-term
rental properties, they keep it up
[47:56]
better than even normal renters,
long-term renters. So
[48:01]
» yeah. us. Great. I just wasn't sure, you
know, if we were specifically thinking
[48:06]
about it or not. I'm cool either way.
Yeah. So, yeah. Okay. Thank you.
[48:14]
» Any other discussion on this?
>> If not, I'll entertain a motion.
[48:25]
I'll make a motion that we adopt these
changes to ordinance 2026-13 with the
[48:33]
addition of
changing
[48:37]
accessory apartment to accessory
dwelling unit in that one spot.
[48:40]
» 1792.
>> Thank you.
[48:46]
Uh I I make a motion that we adopt this
as
[48:50]
presented as amended.
>> I will second. Okay. Have a motion. It's
[48:55]
been seconded. How do we vote? Jay,
>> yes.
[48:59]
» John,
>> yes.
[49:00]
» Chris,
>> yes.
[49:02]
» Jen,
>> yes.
[49:04]
» I vote yes. Also passes.
[49:08]
Great. Moving on to agenda item number
five. Uh, discussion and update on the
[49:14]
Smithfield City Historic Museum
renovation project. Uh, take just a m
[49:19]
just real quick. Were we supposed to
open it up for public comment on that? I
[49:24]
don't know if we needed to or not.
>> Okay.
[49:30]
» Oh, yeah. That's right. Yep. Sorry. I'm
used to being at the planning
[49:33]
commission, so that's why I was thinking
of that. So, thank you.
[49:37]
» Okay. Have a discussion and update on
Smithfield City Historic Museum
[49:42]
renovation project. Uh we'll hear from
Jeff Gitens and uh may also have some
[49:48]
additional details come from Justin. So
Jeff,
[49:53]
welcome.
[49:58]
» Thank you. Good evening, everyone.
Glad to be here and grateful for your
[50:04]
listening here. I've just been asked to
come and basically answer any questions
[50:08]
you have about where we're at.
Yes, I can do that. I can eat it if you
[50:14]
want.
So, I've just basically been asked to be
[50:18]
here to answer any questions you have
about where we're at and what we're
[50:22]
doing. But what we're trying to do is
get the upstairs done. We need the
[50:27]
display room desperately.
And uh I think we made some really good
[50:33]
progress in recent months and uh we've
had a lot of pleased people come. The
[50:40]
thing we are most pleased for
is how engaged the people are that come
[50:46]
to see it. They're involved. They come
with purpose and reason. And most of
[50:51]
them,
excuse me, most of them come with
[50:56]
pictures, relics, family histories, and
things in their hands saying, "I'm the
[51:02]
end of the line or it's my
responsibility. I want this to be seen.
[51:07]
I don't want it thrown away by my
children or my grandchildren. And uh
[51:11]
it's good people have that perspective.
It really is. We've received some
[51:15]
marvelous things, some interesting
things. Uh just real quickly, let me
[51:20]
tell you a couple things that's happened
regarding the upstairs.
[51:26]
We did receive a CLG grant, as most of
you know, for 20,000. That is the
[51:32]
maximum that's allowed. And quite
frankly, I'm a little surprised. But the
[51:37]
way that happened is we had Jansen
Bennett. um he is the state architect
[51:45]
and he came up and has looked at it with
Justin I just recently yesterday
[51:51]
and u
he and Chris Hansen
[51:56]
who was with the
Shipo State History Preservation Office
[52:01]
and they asked us questions about it
after they looked at it and they seemed
[52:07]
pretty satisfied with the answers we
gave
[52:10]
But um yeah, we need that done before we
can do really anything else because we
[52:16]
required to where it's a public building
to be able to get everyone to that area.
[52:25]
And uh we've decided to put it in the
east opening upstairs. Those of you
[52:30]
who've been up there, the east opening
that will require us to cut through that
[52:36]
twoft wall. The east wall is 2 feet
thick. The other three walls are three
[52:41]
feet thick. And so, uh, they'll have to
cut it basically from both sides. We had
[52:47]
Cash Valley Concrete cutting come and
they were happy to do it. They said they
[52:52]
would give us about a $500 reduction
where it's here in the community as
[52:58]
their gift. It's going to cost us around
$4,500 to $5,000.
[53:03]
Uh but the good news is that the door
frame that's there is actually high
[53:08]
enough for the lift to to raise it right
to that that level is where it would
[53:13]
need to be to
for the lift to raise high enough for
[53:19]
people to get out. We will need to cut a
foot to 18 inches off the down to the
[53:26]
floor so it's floor level. It will be a
freestanding structure. It will we'll
[53:31]
have the cutter also. We've talked to
them. They'll cut for us when they do do
[53:35]
this. They'll cut
for the actual tower itself, four places
[53:42]
in the concrete where we can anchor it
down very sturdy. So, it's a
[53:46]
freestanding structure
and uh
[53:51]
it we will enter it from the east. So,
any ramp that would be needed would be
[53:55]
very minimal, just enough to get up to
the floor of the lift. probably I'm
[54:00]
guessing about two to four inches so we
wouldn't have to go out and uh
[54:08]
so we had Jansen and Chris come and they
were great help they're very very
[54:13]
professional these are the CLG grant as
you know might know are
[54:21]
national park funds administered by the
state
[54:25]
and so they told us the procedure what
we would have have to go through to
[54:30]
access that money. It's fairly simple.
They would drop a contract saying we
[54:34]
will do this, this, and this before we
receive to money. We will sign it, get
[54:39]
it back to them, and it's fairly simple
procedure.
[54:43]
So,
that's been done. Um, we're happy with
[54:48]
that.
Uh, we also got the wraps tax for
[54:52]
40,000. So, we have 60,000
towards the the lift. Now, the tough
[54:58]
news is it's going to cost around 69,000
plus.
[55:04]
We're going to have to come up with a
little money on our own.
[55:08]
I feel that we can raise some money in
the future and my pledge to you is I
[55:13]
will continue to do the very best I can.
I pledge that to you as council to raise
[55:21]
the funds, as many of the funds as we
can.
[55:26]
What I have found is if we get people in
the museum
[55:32]
that have an interest in it,
they volunteer money, believe it or not.
[55:38]
And we had such a case.
Two people came up from Earl Harper's
[55:44]
family.
She was a great niece and she brought
[55:49]
pictures
antique oval framed colorized pictures
[55:55]
and uh they brought Earl Harper's camera
that he took on his mission. At one
[56:00]
point I didn't know he went on a mission
to England before he went to World War
[56:05]
I.
They brought stories
[56:09]
and Lyn and I were able to interview her
one night.
[56:14]
It was very interesting. her husband got
out his checkbook and wrote out a check
[56:19]
for $1,000 while he was there.
Just like that. And we received another
[56:25]
little donation yesterday of $500. I
don't tell people what they should
[56:30]
donate because they have to want to do
it. And uh everything is I tell them
[56:37]
everything is appreciated. But we just
have some wonderful people
[56:42]
uh and wonderful gifts that have come
our way. Uh we have a facial recognition
[56:49]
system subs subscription
that Eric Bean Bingham knew the people
[56:55]
who do this and they've given us a a
free subscription for facial
[57:01]
recognition. that required us to get a
new email because they the facial
[57:07]
recognition people are very conscious of
personal data
[57:11]
» and so they won't send it to a personal
email so it will be sent to Justin
[57:16]
helped me set up an a separate email
with the city so that we can accommodate
[57:22]
that and Eric is excited to get started
on that. The benefit of that is all of
[57:28]
the school pictures, all the public
pictures where we have names and we can
[57:34]
document it, but there's always question
marks. We don't know some people always
[57:39]
in especially the older the picture. But
with this facial recognition program, we
[57:45]
create a data data file and that will
link that and be able to identify people
[57:52]
that we can't identify.
And for sure, but they can and it it's
[57:59]
really fascinating.
But that's come our way free gratus
[58:03]
thanks to Eric Bingham and he's excited
to get started on it.
[58:09]
Um we're looking at creating new uh
interactive
[58:16]
displays especially to involve our
youth. That's one of the most rewarding
[58:20]
things I have is to watch the youth get
involved and that's really fun. I mean,
[58:25]
they're the youth are really excited
about it. And uh
[58:30]
so
Linda is working on
[58:35]
some Smithfield Main Street building
[58:40]
interactive displays.
and Whitney Love Day is working on uh
[58:47]
some televised something that we can
televise a video screen that we can put
[58:52]
a CD in or other information and let
people watch things and we have quite a
[58:58]
bit believe it or not to watch. There
have been interviews done of a lot of
[59:04]
the older members of the community from
way back and I think people will
[59:09]
appreciate that. I I will spearhead a
new display on the south wall as you
[59:14]
walk through the ADA entrance about the
original settlers that came to
[59:21]
Smithfield, why they came here, where
they came from, what country they came
[59:25]
from, what brought them here. And it's
uh
[59:30]
it's fascinating to learn these things
where they came from what you know and
[59:37]
it's anyway I think that will be fun for
people of course we it'll help people
[59:43]
identify their their um ancestors or
family members that came here
[59:51]
and uh we've had a lot of success with
the the display on the report. Uh Linda
[59:58]
created something so that people could
sign if they're related to any of these
[1:00:02]
people. We had a lady come last night
from Texas, her and her husband. They
[1:00:07]
made prayer arrangements, but they came
and they are related, directly related,
[1:00:12]
descendants of four of the original
pioneer families. And so she brought
[1:00:17]
pictures with her and they were just a
delight to have. And they stayed until
[1:00:22]
we had to close. So that that was great.
Um those are some of the things we're
[1:00:29]
trying to do. We have we have a
breakdown. Justin can run you through
[1:00:34]
whatever he wants. I'll be glad to to
answer any questions. But uh we had
[1:00:40]
Bennett's glass come up and uh look at
what kind of door we needed to come in
[1:00:47]
the from the elevator into the building.
And it will be key lock only. So the
[1:00:53]
person attending
somebody with um that needs help will
[1:00:59]
have a key. In other words, people from
upstairs will not be able to open the
[1:01:04]
door
and we will not have a closing cylinder
[1:01:09]
on it which is fairly pricey. That
actually saves money because the door is
[1:01:14]
supposed to open freely to the inside
the building and it's supposed to just
[1:01:18]
stay open, you know. So, um that's good.
But anyway, Bennett's Glass gave us a a
[1:01:25]
bid that's good for like uh I can't
remember just is it 60 days 30 to 60
[1:01:32]
days.
>> Okay. It was We can go over those prices
[1:01:35]
in a minute. We've got some uh numbers
council of how to finish the rest of
[1:01:38]
that building or from some of the other
rooms and stuff that Jeff and Linda have
[1:01:41]
been working hard on. We can talk about
that. But very much uh appreciate
[1:01:47]
» that was $10,440.
We got Steve Licky up there from Rocky
[1:01:53]
Mountain Power and he really actually
got him to come up and go through the
[1:01:58]
building. He really enjoyed it and he
was
[1:02:02]
he seemed very impressed and he has
family was here at one time and so but
[1:02:08]
nonetheless he suggested that uh
most grants with Rocky Mountain Power
[1:02:15]
Foundation are they ask you not to apply
for more than generally not more than
[1:02:20]
5,000 but he suggested what they really
go by he says you can put Jeff you can
[1:02:26]
put any amount in you want Because what
they go by is, how did he put it?
[1:02:33]
What will ever make the
gauge click?
[1:02:39]
I might have to get my phone on.
Whatever will make
[1:02:44]
the um
gauge click that will move the project
[1:02:49]
forward.
So he says, "I'm not telling you what to
[1:02:53]
do, but I I'd put $10,000 and tell you
tell them why we need to get this done.
[1:02:58]
We're getting closer to having it
finished up." So we did. We applied for
[1:03:03]
the full $10,000
knowing now what they look at closely.
[1:03:08]
Um that really helped. So Okay.
>> Thank you.
[1:03:13]
» Yeah, I think Justin has a little bit of
additional
[1:03:16]
» color that he can put on a couple of
items here. So
[1:03:19]
» yeah, just uh Jeff's been hard. Jeff and
Linda are always very hard at work over
[1:03:22]
there. If you notice, they're over there
two days a week plus uh when it's open
[1:03:26]
uh when it's not open and in between. Uh
when Jeff's not on a tractor, Jeff's at
[1:03:31]
the museum. We very much appreciate him
and the time spent getting all those
[1:03:34]
bids. Uh as we talk about that building,
uh we've been working on a um some
[1:03:39]
changes per the building inspection
department. We've got to tweak the one
[1:03:42]
of the bathrooms a little bit. Uh
there's some uh uh railing that we've
[1:03:47]
got to change uh to be into some ADA
compliance. Uh we'll get that done. Some
[1:03:51]
uh grab bars, I believe they call them.
Uh put in some signage. Uh we can get in
[1:03:55]
compliance there. As far as on the main
floor, uh basically the only thing uh
[1:03:59]
left on the main floor outside of fixing
that bathroom is the conference room. Uh
[1:04:03]
the conference room needs the electrical
finished. Uh the flooring probably uh
[1:04:08]
flooring is problematic at best. Uh we
have some pricing there, sheetrock,
[1:04:12]
paint, and then the bottom could
actually be done. Uh we found out on the
[1:04:15]
stairs going up with the lift and stuff,
the stairs uh actually will hit code
[1:04:20]
from as far as the stairs perspective
themselves, but we would we do have to
[1:04:23]
install a railing on both sides. Um so
that will be mandatory and that is from
[1:04:28]
the very bottom to uh to the top even
where it makes the 90 and goes up onto
[1:04:32]
the floor. So uh we would need some
railing there. As Jeff mentioned, 40,000
[1:04:37]
in wraps tax, 20,000 in a CLG. those are
approved. Uh we've applied for the
[1:04:42]
through the Rocky Mountain Power
Foundation. Hope to get some funding
[1:04:44]
there. Um the lift is going to require
some concrete work. We're going to have
[1:04:48]
to cut out some of the concrete out. I
believe it's going to have to be on
[1:04:52]
about a 4ft base if I recall. Um with
the concrete, so there's going to be
[1:04:57]
some costs with that. We're going to
have to move the air conditioning unit
[1:05:00]
that's on the east side of the building.
It's going to have to be relocated to
[1:05:03]
the south side of the building. And then
as you look at the upstairs uh council,
[1:05:07]
um some of the electrical needs to be
finished once the roughin electrical is
[1:05:11]
done. Uh it would require an inspection
and then you could start looking at
[1:05:14]
sheetrock. It's already insulated. You
could look at sheetrock. Uh there's some
[1:05:18]
flooring challenges. Uh you know, some
flooring needs to be done up there.
[1:05:22]
Probably the biggest thing on the
upstairs before really a whole lot can
[1:05:25]
proceed is cutting through that wall um
on the east side to uh because you can't
[1:05:30]
come in is is if you go in now uh with
the existing wall, you would have like a
[1:05:34]
two foot 18 to 24 inch fall off to the
main floor. You can't have that with a
[1:05:38]
wheelchair obviously. So there's some
challenges attaching to the building,
[1:05:42]
cutting a hole through that wall. Um you
know it's an older building obviously so
[1:05:47]
when you're cutting holes through walls
there can be some challenges there.
[1:05:50]
Jeff's went out and got some flooring
bids, some sheetrock bids. Um, you know,
[1:05:56]
they're still even on top of the lift
council, they're still, you know, you
[1:06:00]
start adding things up. Uh, and these
are combined for the upstairs and the
[1:06:04]
and the downstairs, but flooring, you're
still at 18,000. Sheetrock, paint, trim,
[1:06:08]
and framing, 19,000. Uh, we haven't got
a bid yet on the handrail. Um, HVAC,
[1:06:14]
there's still some work to be done
there. Rock repair, estimating 2500. uh
[1:06:19]
the you know some electrical to finish
up. Um we are uh excited about what uh
[1:06:25]
what Jeff was able to do with a local
contractor and a donor on the sophet and
[1:06:29]
fascia. That project can be finished.
The building department signed off on
[1:06:32]
that. Um there was a a donation and then
some inind there. So that project will
[1:06:37]
get finished on the outside. Jeff's
talked to that contractor about moving
[1:06:40]
forward with it. Uh hopefully we can get
that done before the winter, but that
[1:06:43]
will be uh up to the contractor there.
So we're looking at some grant options.
[1:06:48]
council uh because without grand options
it would take it's going to take still a
[1:06:52]
significant amount of funding to finish
that upstairs uh as well as that main
[1:06:57]
floor. So uh the lift like I say the
challenge is attaching it to the
[1:07:00]
building. It's cutting through the east
wall. Um and so we'll keep working on
[1:07:04]
that. As Jeff said uh there's not very
often Jeff comes over that he doesn't
[1:07:08]
have a donation of some type. Kudos to
Jeff for all the donations him and the
[1:07:12]
entire group have collected, but Jeff's
been instrumental in that as we all
[1:07:16]
know. So, we're looking at some some
grants, but bottom line, without any
[1:07:20]
additional grant funding or donations,
uh that project's pretty much going to
[1:07:24]
stall in reality, um because there's
just simply no funding for it. Um you
[1:07:28]
know, there's some partial funding, as
Jeff mentioned, for the lift. Uh but
[1:07:32]
it's going to take some additional
funding to get that done. Obviously, we
[1:07:35]
don't want to lose out on the CLG grant
or the wraps tax. Uh there are some
[1:07:39]
deadlines and stuff there. Uh so, we'll
be looking at a proposal there, council,
[1:07:43]
of how we fund. Uh, so we s certainly
don't want to lose out on $60,000 in
[1:07:48]
funding, right?
>> So So we talking about what 50 60,000 to
[1:07:51]
finish the project?
>> I think you're closer to 100 than
[1:07:54]
50,000.
>> Uh, just because there's some unknowns
[1:07:58]
like cutting through that wall, um,
moving the AC, um, the electrical. Um, I
[1:08:05]
mean, you start going 18, 19 is 37, you
know, and then, you know, it just adds
[1:08:10]
in a hurry. um you know so probably 50
to 100 is reasonable um but there's just
[1:08:16]
some unknowns on that east side and how
that connects some electrical um so but
[1:08:21]
I still think you know there's
definitely some significant funding
[1:08:25]
challenges left to finish that building
council as I think we all know
[1:08:29]
» I've been kind of plugging along with it
all the way all the way so maybe it's
[1:08:31]
just it's the name of that building
>> so and it wouldn't bottom line when you
[1:08:36]
look at what it is now it's possible
because of grants uh grants and
[1:08:40]
donations ations and council approved
funding. So that's how we've got to get
[1:08:44]
that building open. Um I believe it was
Jeff, correct me if I'm wrong. I think
[1:08:48]
we officially took ownership in 2019 if
I recall. Um and so look at what's been
[1:08:54]
done from 19 through now. Uh but like
you say that upstairs is a challenge. I
[1:08:58]
mean it is it is not usable as it sits.
It is not safe. Uh it's blocked off and
[1:09:04]
not accessible. Um so it would be up to
the council how they want to proceed.
[1:09:08]
Um, but we the next thing we're going to
be looking at is actually how we can get
[1:09:14]
that lift attached to the building and
what's involved. Um, once you start
[1:09:19]
cutting that wall, there's no going
back. Like, let's be honest, like that's
[1:09:23]
that that's a big deal. Uh, when that
when that cut in that wall for that lift
[1:09:28]
comes, so
>> there's no absolute unknown or there's
[1:09:30]
no absolute known there.
>> Yeah. And I mean, we're just not going
[1:09:34]
back. So, we've got to we got to play
with that some about we know when that
[1:09:39]
door comes off or that and that however
they cut that is it's a go like there's
[1:09:45]
no going back
>> like we have to finish that to get that
[1:09:48]
thing sealed back off. So, um we have
some challenges there for sure. Jay,
[1:09:52]
» I was just going to say I would assume
that so it's already open and
[1:09:56]
everything. We want to get the what's
downstairs finished first so it's all
[1:10:00]
co- compliant and everything. use that.
>> So, we'll work on the the bathroom will
[1:10:03]
get fixed now. We'll work on getting it
done. So, um that there's no issues
[1:10:07]
there. Very overall pretty pretty simple
fixes there. We'll just get the person
[1:10:12]
in there and then it's up. I mean, the
the conference room I mean obviously is
[1:10:18]
the building's open without it. Would it
certainly be nice if it was done? Uh
[1:10:21]
absolutely. Uh of course. So, but yeah,
we do have some challenges finishing
[1:10:25]
that upstairs.
>> So, on on the cutting through the wall,
[1:10:28]
we do have
close estimate on that. It's going to be
[1:10:32]
between 45 and $5,000.
And
[1:10:38]
I have to take a little different stand,
Justin, pardon me, but I believe that we
[1:10:45]
I really believe we can get it done at
around $100,000. We can get it all
[1:10:49]
finished up. We had Lance Walker come
up, very experienced brickmason.
[1:10:55]
He's offered to do a lot of the work
that would be involved with with cutting
[1:11:00]
through the wall, you know, the the
extra. And we've got the brick, the old
[1:11:05]
brick to match. And he said, "I owe you
one." He told me about why he owed me
[1:11:12]
something. And he he promised do a job
for me. Forgot about it. But that's all
[1:11:18]
right. He's a good man and very very
experienced. We actually had him come
[1:11:22]
before we had the concrete cutters come
and he guided us said this is what you
[1:11:27]
need to ask. These are the questions you
need to ask and this is what we need to
[1:11:31]
do. And uh but he'll come in and
bring the level up on where we're going
[1:11:37]
to put the window on the north opening
east side north opening.
[1:11:43]
And uh but he'll he'll do that stuff for
us. He's offered to do it. So those kind
[1:11:50]
of things are helpful, but I think real
honestly, I'm pretty sure we can get it
[1:11:57]
finished up at $100,000.
>> Justin, there's no short-term occupancy
[1:12:03]
issues with the fixes that need to be
made for the bathrooms.
[1:12:06]
» No, we're full.
>> Okay, good.
[1:12:08]
» And in that in that conference room, um
the flooring has been done for the most
[1:12:15]
part, the rough flooring. There's one
more piece of
[1:12:20]
thin wood that needs to be put on and
then we'll need to put some leveling
[1:12:23]
base on it
before they try to put the
[1:12:29]
regular flooring in.
So, we'll even it up real nice for Dan
[1:12:35]
Stone to put the flooring in.
>> So, is there enough funding to put the
[1:12:39]
lift in or is that is that unknown
because of the wall? Is that what you're
[1:12:43]
saying?
>> That that's the cost that's a little
[1:12:47]
unknown. I mean, we we have a pretty
good idea. Like I said, $4,500 to
[1:12:52]
$5,000.
>> Has the lift been purchased already?
[1:12:55]
» No, we haven't signed any contract yet.
We'll want what we'll want to do is
[1:12:59]
we'll want to get um Mike Gardner, he's
with the the lift company. We want to
[1:13:07]
get him up here with his engineers and
that and show us exactly what needs to
[1:13:13]
be done. That's what
>> Justin talked about. We got to have that
[1:13:18]
done
>> before we do anything
[1:13:20]
» before we sign any kind of contract and
we want the contract to specify exactly
[1:13:24]
what we need. When they did the original
drawings, conceptual drawings and so on.
[1:13:31]
Uh it showed the the lift coming in from
inside or out outside the building but
[1:13:38]
from a different direction
but it will it would come in from the
[1:13:43]
east. And so the tower doesn't need to
be near as wide because it'll just come
[1:13:46]
straight in.
And uh so it won't be near as wide.
[1:13:52]
Whereas if it came from the south, you'd
have to come in, put them in undercover
[1:13:58]
and so on. They also put in the original
conceptional drawings that were done by
[1:14:04]
Steve Cornell from state history
preservation office. He did quite
[1:14:10]
detailed and he envisioned a glass tower
and we we don't really want a glass
[1:14:17]
tower. Uh we prefer to have something
like the hardy board, sturdy board and
[1:14:23]
and maybe just a
a sight glass or something on the pod so
[1:14:31]
they can see it a little bit as they go
up. But, uh, there's things we can do to
[1:14:37]
keep the the price down and still do a
good job. We are dedicated to doing it
[1:14:42]
once and doing it right.
And so, anyway,
[1:14:46]
» so you're at the point now where you
need to have it engineered to find out
[1:14:50]
exactly what you need to do before you
can proceed forward. Is that what I'm
[1:14:53]
hearing?
>> On the lift? Yes.
[1:14:54]
» Yes. On the lift. So, that's where
that's where you're at with that.
[1:14:57]
» Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. We're
not going to sign a contract till
[1:15:00]
everybody's knows exactly what we're
paying and what we're getting into.
[1:15:04]
» Yeah.
>> Yeah, for sure. And it'll come before
[1:15:07]
you guys, I'm sure.
>> Well, thank you so much.
[1:15:11]
» Thank you, Jeff and and Linda, for all
of your dedication, everything you've
[1:15:16]
done. You guys are amazing.
>> Well, we thank you guys, especially
[1:15:21]
Justin. He's been a a real savior to us
and keeping track of things and helping
[1:15:26]
he's been helping us write grants and
has relieved us of some time that Lind
[1:15:31]
and I have spent in the past. But
>> the value that this has to the community
[1:15:35]
is extraordinary. It really is. And this
goes down to your effort and your uh
[1:15:41]
team's effort, all the volunteer labor
that's gone into this.
[1:15:45]
» There's a lot of good volunteers.
>> We're also facing some real decisions we
[1:15:49]
need to make here.
>> Sure. Because I understand.
[1:15:51]
» Uh, nobody's questioning the value of
this, but we're facing some real costs
[1:15:56]
that are unaccounted for and not not
budgeted for currently.
[1:16:00]
» Yes.
>> And what the more you can do to kind of
[1:16:03]
lock in those numbers and help us figure
out what that is and I appreciate all
[1:16:07]
you do to get donations and the seat
grants. That's absolutely valuable for
[1:16:11]
sure.
>> Just a few weeks ago, we had the Doug 55
[1:16:14]
members of the Douglas family. Mr. Doug
built the store originally, but 55
[1:16:19]
members came to the store and um we
basically had to turn out the lights and
[1:16:25]
throw the last ones out.
But they
[1:16:31]
one of the descendants named David could
understand what was needed and it's
[1:16:35]
money because the rest of the work is by
professionals, right? like the lift. And
[1:16:43]
so he's taken it upon himself the
Douglases are he's committed that the
[1:16:47]
Douglas is going to raise a little
money. It might, you know, it might be
[1:16:50]
$1,500. That's what I think they paid
before. But hey, that helps. Every
[1:16:55]
little bit helps.
>> And uh
[1:16:57]
» but but we really need to lock all this
down and make sure we've got bids and
[1:17:02]
specifics about what's going to be done,
what's not going to be done.
[1:17:05]
» One thing you need to understand
>> where the funding is coming from. So we
[1:17:08]
appreciate that. What one thing though
that you need to understand is you can't
[1:17:11]
get bids for a long term. Most
businesses like Trend Interiors and
[1:17:17]
Bennett's Glass will give you a bid for
so many days and that's it. And they
[1:17:24]
won't give an estimate. They'll only
give a bid, but it's good for so many
[1:17:27]
days.
>> It's a good guideline to work on though.
[1:17:30]
Again, it's a good estimate. So, it
gives us an idea of what it could cost
[1:17:34]
because if it goes up, it's not going to
be drastic. So, at least gives us an
[1:17:37]
idea. Yeah. And I I've got the estimates
estimates from some, but actual bids on
[1:17:43]
others because they won't give out an
estimate. They'll give a bid. This is
[1:17:47]
what it's going to cost you. This is
what you're going to get.
[1:17:49]
» Well, and in terms of fundraising, we we
work off the high numbers. And then if
[1:17:53]
we come in under bids or we come in low
lower than right the estimates, then
[1:17:58]
» right,
>> that money can be spent elsewhere and
[1:17:59]
there's always places to spend the
money. I'd be happy to answer any of
[1:18:03]
your specific questions or if any of you
want to see what we're looking at and
[1:18:08]
get a feel for it yourself. Todd, I know
you'd like to be there and like to have
[1:18:12]
you. So, just get a hold of me. I'll
come up anytime, day or night, and we
[1:18:18]
can go through it.
>> You know, where that building's come
[1:18:21]
from since 2019 to where it is now. It's
just phenomenal. And congratulations for
[1:18:26]
your guys' dedication. We do appreciate
it. But I I agree with John. We got a
[1:18:31]
little bit. We got to push it over the
hill.
[1:18:32]
» Yep. I'll pass that on to the other
volunteers. Thank you all of you.
[1:18:36]
» Thank you, Jeff. Appreciate it, sir.
[1:18:42]
» Okay, moving on. We'll move to agenda
item number six, city manager report.
[1:18:47]
Turn the time over to Justin.
>> Hi, just a few things tonight. Um, I'll
[1:18:52]
let uh John talk about it in a minute,
but we had uh we met with a
[1:18:56]
representative of the cash water
district uh today on a project that we
[1:19:00]
can potentially do here at the city
office. We're super excited. Uh John is
[1:19:04]
going to fill you guys in on what we
talked about on stuff, but I think it's
[1:19:07]
going to be a really good project for
the city. It's going to be at this
[1:19:10]
building. Uh John will fill in on that.
As far as the spring line up the canyon,
[1:19:14]
knock on wood, we are that contractor is
doing really well. uh they are on target
[1:19:19]
to finish their part of the project or
phase one in October uh with the
[1:19:24]
exception of there is one culvert uh
that Clay is working on with the
[1:19:28]
contractor with the county. We had one
really really bad con culvert up the
[1:19:32]
canyon. We've had to get some specialty
pipe. Uh it won't be here till sometime
[1:19:36]
in October. Uh but the contractor is
cruising along on phase one and then
[1:19:40]
they'll finish up that culvert and phase
one that spring line replacement uh will
[1:19:45]
be done this year. So, appreciate Clay
overseeing that. The new 3 million
[1:19:49]
gallon tank, basically floors done,
walls are there, and they're going to
[1:19:54]
the roof. Uh, that is a very big uh you
feel very small when you're around that
[1:19:59]
tank now. Uh, that tank's very big.
Appreciate Clay uh overseeing both of
[1:20:04]
those as well as the the storm water
project. Uh, we're actually working, he
[1:20:08]
was meeting with them. We're working on
phase two. Hope to have it out to bid
[1:20:11]
sooner than later as we go on that. Uh
the audit started in August and we'll
[1:20:16]
work on on it through October. Uh you
know some of those big things that you
[1:20:21]
look at or that are really uh uh
reviewed like impact fees uh to the
[1:20:27]
penny. Um uh they are very much
scrutinized where they're at, where
[1:20:31]
they're going. Um, you actually, if you
didn't know, if we have unspent impact
[1:20:37]
fees, we actually have to set aside
interest uh on those to give back to the
[1:20:42]
developer if they weren't spent within
the time uh period uh that's allowed
[1:20:46]
that six years. So, they're heavily
scrutinized. All grants are scrutinized.
[1:20:50]
Rats tax, we have a ton of grants. Uh
we're we're totally happy to see those
[1:20:54]
scrutinized because it means we did
really well um in bringing those in,
[1:20:58]
especially like with the library. uh the
fraud risk assessment something we do
[1:21:02]
every year uh per state interesting on
there all the boxes we can check a
[1:21:07]
couple of the boxes we can't check uh
right now for example or we don't have a
[1:21:11]
CPA on staff find it very interesting
that's one of the questions um one of
[1:21:16]
the other questions it says are
employees and elected officials required
[1:21:19]
to annually commit in writing to abide
by a statement of ethical behavior uh
[1:21:23]
what I find interesting in that is we
would have to have I believe there's 161
[1:21:28]
employees right now plus or minus. I
would have to have 161 forms whether
[1:21:33]
they're seasonal, part-time, council,
mayor. Simply can't get them. Uh that's
[1:21:37]
just a box. We can't check. We're just I
I can't I'm not going to be able to
[1:21:41]
acquire those. Uh I don't think a
seasonal or a part-timer that's here for
[1:21:45]
a month would even know what that means.
Uh if they read it, the council
[1:21:49]
certainly does. The mayor certainly
does. Um but there's a couple of boxes
[1:21:53]
on there. We just don't uh we couldn't
check this year uh because of things
[1:21:58]
like that, but we've checked a lot of
those boxes. So, we'll keep working on
[1:22:01]
the audit. They'll come in most likely
probably in December as we finish that
[1:22:05]
up. Uh because there's a little uh in
November there's a scheduling change if
[1:22:10]
you went the second Wednesday uh is
Veterans Day. We noted earlier this year
[1:22:14]
we're not holding council on Veterans
Day. So, uh the 1111 meeting is actually
[1:22:18]
on 114. Uh just as a reminder as you
plan our October meeting uh is just its
[1:22:24]
normal second uh second Wednesday. Um
but outside of that I don't have
[1:22:29]
anything else tonight Todd unless you
have questions.
[1:22:33]
Any questions?
>> Okay. Thank you Justin. Appreciate that.
[1:22:38]
And seems like I always wind up going
first when we wind up doing our
[1:22:42]
councilman report. So I'm going to go
the other direction. We'll let start at
[1:22:45]
Jay and come the other direction.
>> Cool.
[1:22:49]
um mosquito. Let's start off with the
mosquitoes.
[1:22:52]
Okay. Um some interesting things with
that I found out in the last meeting.
[1:22:56]
First of all, two weeks ago, all but
three communities in the valley now have
[1:23:00]
tested West Nile virus. So, it's West
Nile here. And uh there's been last two
[1:23:05]
weeks ago, there was actually uh two or
three people now that's been
[1:23:09]
hospitalized with it. So, it's here in
the community. Now what's what that does
[1:23:13]
too is that when before if you didn't
want your neighborhood sprayed um you
[1:23:18]
could opt out of it but once your
community test is positive for that they
[1:23:22]
just it goes to emergency mode and
everything gets sprayed
[1:23:25]
» so you can't opt out of it. Um some
couple interesting things about that.
[1:23:29]
It's only the female mosquito that bites
you that carries it and they only bite
[1:23:34]
between dusk and dawn. So those
mosquitoes that bite you during the day
[1:23:38]
is a different breed. It's not the ones
that get you. Um, also the mosquitoes.
[1:23:42]
Another interesting fact, the only way
this goes away is when the cold frost
[1:23:46]
comes and kills the mosquitoes. And so
until October, we're going to be, you
[1:23:50]
know, it's going to be interesting to
see what happens. The big thing is the
[1:23:53]
people who own horses. It's very
detrimental to them. They've had now
[1:23:56]
about six or seven horses in the valley
that have caught West Nile and died of
[1:24:00]
it. And I guess it's a really painful
way to go. So for the horse, so kind of
[1:24:05]
keep that in mind. They were all about
that. Um, but there Oh, there was
[1:24:08]
another concern too. They said that
there's people who's been sick that
[1:24:11]
probably had the west now, but they
didn't go to the hospital or anything.
[1:24:14]
So, they didn't know they really had it.
So, there's probably more cases just
[1:24:16]
they're mild cases, but it's here in the
valley and so um it's kind of
[1:24:20]
interesting. So, now when you go out
there, you know, so you get a little
[1:24:24]
nervous. So, they said make sure you
protect yourself, wear long pants, long
[1:24:27]
coats and stuff like that. Anyway,
that's that one. Um talk about the fire
[1:24:31]
service a little bit. Um the board of
trustees, they now have their board
[1:24:34]
members all put together. Um is made up
of mayors in the valley. Our mayor is
[1:24:38]
the chairperson of the board of trustees
for the fire the fire district. It's not
[1:24:42]
called the county fire district. It's
called the cash fire district fire
[1:24:46]
protection district I think it's called
or something like that. Um and then they
[1:24:49]
have also um established where they have
a technical committees um from the north
[1:24:54]
and the south that's made up of the fire
chiefs and some other citizens at large
[1:24:59]
um to help make that up. And then we
also still have the advisory committee
[1:25:03]
in the north end of the valley and the
south end of the valley. We were
[1:25:05]
supposed to have a meeting uh tomorrow
night because they had an emergency
[1:25:08]
meeting last week with the mayors. Um
the Jeff Young who's the mayor from
[1:25:12]
Richmond who's the chair of it. He uh
basically said let's postpone it until
[1:25:16]
after next Wednesday meeting of the fire
of the trustees. So what they're working
[1:25:20]
on right now is probably seen in the
paper. They're working on the funding
[1:25:23]
and that sort of thing. Some things that
are going through. So it's it's working
[1:25:26]
its way. It's starting to maybe working
some things down and everything. So it's
[1:25:30]
going to be interesting to see where
that goes and I'm sure we'll have more
[1:25:33]
discussion on that future.
Um, and I just want to real quick on my
[1:25:36]
ending here, I want to shout out and
tell the uh publicly tell the school
[1:25:41]
district thanks for the sidewalk they
put on six south. I was really surprised
[1:25:46]
at what that made a difference for that
street. It really cleaned that up and
[1:25:50]
they did a fantastic job. And I just,
you know, in our meeting here, I'd like
[1:25:54]
to say, "Hey, thank you. You did you
made a big difference over in that
[1:25:56]
community." The only thing that's kind
of a little weird is when you get up
[1:25:59]
there, there's a wowee in the sidewalk
where it goes around that valve. So, if
[1:26:04]
you're coming down there on a skateboard
or whatever,
[1:26:07]
» you better be careful.
>> They'll only do it once.
[1:26:10]
» So,
that is true. And, you know, and and
[1:26:13]
when we get our bridge done, I think
that'll be a f fantastic addition to six
[1:26:17]
south. But it it really they did a
fantastic job with it and it really
[1:26:21]
cleaned up that block. And so, anybody
see the school district, thank you.
[1:26:26]
Thank you very much from from our from
my standpoint anyway. Thank you.
[1:26:31]
» Thank you, Jay John.
>> Yeah, agreed on the sidewalk project.
[1:26:36]
That's been fantastic.
>> It's over in your neighborhood.
[1:26:38]
» Yeah, it's
>> it's my neighborhood now. Uh Justin, I
[1:26:44]
met today with Autumn from the Cash
Water District. uh they received a grant
[1:26:48]
last year, earlier this year for some
money to distribute to cities to
[1:26:55]
rellandscape using water wise
landscaping and they reached out to the
[1:26:59]
cities to see what interest we had uh as
we visited. Uh Justin immediately knew
[1:27:04]
that we could use that funding to help
rellandscape here uh around the city
[1:27:10]
campus where we have so many kind of
narrow strips of grass and turf that is
[1:27:16]
kind of not usable really as turf but
takes all the work of maintaining
[1:27:20]
watering mowing uh as turf. And so, uh,
our our thinking right now is that we're
[1:27:26]
going to convert much of this
landscaping around the city offices and
[1:27:31]
along the park strip here on First South
to some water wise landscaping. We
[1:27:37]
Justin's identified about 4,000 square
feet that we can convert. and the cash
[1:27:42]
district is essentially verbally
committed to about $10,000 worth of
[1:27:47]
funding to help pay for that and suggest
we might even get some additional
[1:27:51]
funding from slow the flow who
compensates
[1:27:56]
communities when they remove turf. And
so we might be able to come up with 10
[1:28:01]
or 15 almost $20,000 worth of funding
for that. And of course, our public's
[1:28:07]
works folks can do a lot of the labor as
a inind contribution to that project.
[1:28:12]
So, we're very excited about uh that and
tightening up our water usage and the
[1:28:19]
labor that needs to be done to maintain
the land landscape around the city
[1:28:23]
offices here. So, that'll probably
happen here in the fall. We need to have
[1:28:29]
spent that money by spring, but we're
probably going to try to do it here in
[1:28:32]
the fall, uh is what Justin suggests. So
that's exciting. Library is busy busy.
[1:28:39]
Even though the summer programs are
done, now we're kind of starting into
[1:28:42]
fall programs and schools uh and
children and community members in the
[1:28:48]
library. So continue to be very busy at
the library.
[1:28:51]
Uh in terms of our uh community
development programs,
[1:28:56]
uh we'll be kind of launching our USU
partnership in two weeks here uh at the
[1:29:03]
council meeting. in uh we'll have the
leadership from USU here to talk with us
[1:29:09]
and
we have been working on setting some
[1:29:14]
community priorities on kind of some of
the ideas we want them to focus on. We
[1:29:19]
expect that USU will also as they review
the community, they'll have some
[1:29:23]
suggestions on what to work on also. So,
it's kind of a two-part
[1:29:29]
uh priority setting and so that will
happen over the over the coming months.
[1:29:33]
We're excited to get that going. Uh we
kind of had an exciting month in terms
[1:29:38]
of trails.
Uh
[1:29:41]
and so here here's what I'll say for
now. The access that we that the
[1:29:46]
community has been uh enjoying access
from the end of Summit Drive down into
[1:29:51]
Birch Canyon that has been closed by the
property owners and we hope that
[1:29:57]
citizens will respect that closure.
We also expect that that closure will
[1:30:02]
not be permanent. Uh and that
negotiations are ongoing with land
[1:30:07]
owners, not only for access from the end
of Summit Drive into Birch Canyon, but
[1:30:12]
connecting all of that to the Bonville
Shoreline Trail. And so over the next
[1:30:17]
six months to a year, maybe hopefully
those negotiations will bear fruit and
[1:30:22]
we'll identify routes and we'll make
agreements with land owners to kind of
[1:30:27]
uh open that up once and for all and and
uh and and develop those trails in
[1:30:33]
really usable kinds of ways. In the
meantime, we hope that citizens and
[1:30:37]
residents, as much as we all love to get
on those trails, uh we hope that they'll
[1:30:42]
respect the property owners rights to do
what they need to with their property
[1:30:47]
for now.
Uh, also kind of related to that, the
[1:30:53]
Crow Mountain Neighborhood Group has
been uh surveying local residents about
[1:31:00]
what amenities
might be part of the new park, the
[1:31:05]
future park up on what we call the
Tuison property up on Crow Mountain, the
[1:31:10]
11acre
uh city property up there. and they have
[1:31:14]
in the last few months collected 172
responses from residents. And so they
[1:31:20]
are now in the process of starting to
collate and process that data that
[1:31:24]
they've gathered. And we've invited them
to come present to the council uh the
[1:31:29]
first week of November about what they
found and what they gathered on their
[1:31:33]
survey.
And so we'll be able to share that
[1:31:36]
survey data with USU as they kind of
consider uh designs for that park. So
[1:31:43]
that's been super helpful and that that
group is just fantastic. That's that's
[1:31:48]
not a small lift to gather that kind of
information. So we're super pleased with
[1:31:52]
their their work. And finally, the
chamber is kind of back on track after
[1:31:59]
kind of a hiatus during the summer. The
community trickor treat will be held on
[1:32:06]
October 16th. Can you believe we're
already talking about Halloween? October
[1:32:10]
16th from 4:30 to 8 at the rec center.
So that's coming up. And the night of
[1:32:15]
giving is also already on the calendar
for December 5th and tables are now
[1:32:20]
available for purchase. The theme this
year for the night of giving is share
[1:32:25]
the joy and it's the 20th year of the
night of giving. So that's quite a
[1:32:30]
milestone for the chamber and that uh
annual effort. So, lots going on, lots
[1:32:37]
of good things going on. We're really
excited.
[1:32:42]
» Thanks, John. Um, I don't know if you
guys knew, but we've got a new mayor in
[1:32:46]
town.
Got heads turned.
[1:32:50]
Um, this is just our youth mayor. No
one's replacing um Mayor Aaron Rudy. We
[1:32:56]
love what he's doing. But uh basically
we've got Lily King who is our new um
[1:33:03]
youth mayor and this year's been uh
awesome. Um basically they've got uh
[1:33:09]
nine youth council executive members and
they've got a total of 51
[1:33:16]
um youth council. So that's more than
we've ever had in the history of
[1:33:21]
Smithfield. And u they're a great group.
um last Wednesday uh the mayor um
[1:33:31]
did the swearing in for for all of those
youth council and uh so we're excited
[1:33:37]
for them. Um as Caroli mentioned uh
there's Sky View had their homecoming uh
[1:33:43]
parade kind of during our meeting and so
normally we would have um someone from
[1:33:49]
the youth council here to kind of tell
what's going on. Uh but since they
[1:33:53]
weren't able to be here, um I'll just
read you some information that uh Lily
[1:33:59]
King wrote up. She said, "Uh we started
off our year with an executive training
[1:34:04]
in the summer where we planned events
and did some team building activities.
[1:34:09]
We also had our opening social with
everyone in the council which was a
[1:34:13]
success with great attendance.
Last Wednesday, we had our swearing in
[1:34:18]
ceremony by Mayor Erin Rudy and were
able to review our upcoming activities
[1:34:23]
and events happening. In a few weeks, we
will have our teddy bear picnic taking
[1:34:28]
place on the 26th of September. And in
October, we will be helping at the
[1:34:33]
Trickor Treat Street event.
And these youth get involved in in
[1:34:38]
helping some of these uh different
events um throughout the year. They do a
[1:34:43]
great job. Um, we're excited for for
them. Um, and then, uh,
[1:34:50]
in addition to the youth, we have the
other young seniors, um, that I got a
[1:34:55]
chance to go visit, uh, Tuesday. They're
back to their they're back to their uh,
[1:35:00]
weekly meetings um, in the summer. They
usually take a little bit of a break and
[1:35:04]
only meet twice a month, but now they're
back to meeting um, each Tuesday for
[1:35:09]
lunch and for entertainment. So, last
Tuesday, we had some awesome
[1:35:14]
entertainment. Um, we had the one and
only Mr. Justin Lewis
[1:35:20]
come and answer questions. And, uh, he
had them all rolling on the floor. They
[1:35:25]
were all happy and excited and and he
answered all their questions for as much
[1:35:29]
time as we had. I think they probably
still had some questions we didn't get
[1:35:33]
time to answer, but anyways, appreciated
Justin keeping them entertained. But uh
[1:35:40]
and I'm I'm very appreciative of these
of these young seniors that um
[1:35:45]
volunteer. It's pretty cool that they
they they spend a lot of time. You can
[1:35:50]
tell that they're committed. There's a
lot of them that volunteer and help out
[1:35:53]
in different aspects of that. And it is
just so amazing to see how well it's
[1:35:58]
run. Um nobody's getting paid to do
anything there. And yet they they come
[1:36:03]
up with these great meals and uh great
entertainment. Um I'm not sure how much
[1:36:08]
they paid Justin to be there, but you
know, expensive entertainment, right?
[1:36:13]
Anyways, um and then um just wanted to
mention uh as kind of was mentioned a
[1:36:20]
little earlier, we had our community
planning engagement committee yesterday
[1:36:24]
meeting and uh working with uh obviously
getting ready for USU coming up on the
[1:36:30]
23rd. Um we're excited about that. And
and in addition to that, um thanks Jeff
[1:36:37]
and Linda for all that you're doing um
with that rock building. That's part of
[1:36:42]
our envisioning of our Main Street Utah,
which you know, now we're the tier one
[1:36:49]
uh Main Street Utah um city uh here in
Smithfield. We're we're a part of that
[1:36:55]
program. And uh one of the things that
we're doing or we've committed to do as
[1:37:00]
a part of that is to create four
different committees. that follow the
[1:37:04]
the different areas um organization
promotion design and uh design and
[1:37:11]
economic vitality. So, we're going to be
reaching out to uh different residents
[1:37:16]
uh and also people who already serve on
some committees here on the city uh that
[1:37:22]
that may have some expertise and and
have some uh some knowledge that would
[1:37:27]
be able to help us on these committees.
So, we're we're excited for that and and
[1:37:32]
getting involved with that. And then
we'll also have uh the director of Main
[1:37:35]
Street Utah there on the 23rd. So, we're
hoping with with those with that with
[1:37:40]
USU helping us kind of get a vision of
Smithfield that we're going to do some
[1:37:45]
great things uh for for making
Smithfield
[1:37:49]
uh keeping it the small town feel that
we want to have and um helping uh plan
[1:37:55]
for the future. I mean, that's kind of a
big big thing to accomplish, but
[1:38:00]
anyways, that's all I've got. Thank you.
>> Thanks, Chris. Jen,
[1:38:06]
» I don't have a whole lot of updates
since the royalty is done. And then we
[1:38:09]
have a arts council meeting next Monday.
So, there might be updates after that,
[1:38:13]
but as of right now, I really don't have
a whole lot to update. The arts council
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is just planning the historic book
festival right now. Got all their
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subcommittees going and they're excited.
>> It's pretty awesome.
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» Yeah, it's going to be good. got bigger
every year. So
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» that's all I have.
>> Thank you. Uh from my side, I just I
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want to uh thirdly comment on the
sidewalk and how good that's looking
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down there with Sky View and uh stopped
the other day and talked with Clay
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working on that co on the bridge which
is I think significantly ahead of what
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we're original. So I'm excited about
that. They're going to be able to have
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that in you know hopefully before the
snow flies. We We don't want that early
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of snow. We want snow this year, but not
that early. So, grateful to that. That's
[1:39:02]
that's just really looking great down
there. Um, as far as uh getting back to
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the historic society to want to just
thank Jeff for all the efforts that he's
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been putting into there. So excited
about the opportunity we had to get that
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20,000 um CLG grant because that that's
just really really going to help us out
[1:39:24]
on that. And that goes to a lot of his
efforts in being able to get that. Um,
[1:39:29]
as far as the tree committee, we've kind
of had a summer off. Um, and uh, with
[1:39:35]
few people recovering from travel and a
few other things, we our next meeting is
[1:39:39]
not now scheduled until the 6th of uh,
of October. But that doesn't mean that
[1:39:45]
things haven't been happening there. Um,
Chris has actually been heavily involved
[1:39:49]
in helping to um, go through and make a
uh, much more editable tree inventory
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list of the city, which I think will be
great for the tree committee to be able
[1:40:01]
to have and have that on there. Not only
thanks to him, but also to Jack, to
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Mayor Murray. They've done great work in
really organizing and being able to do
[1:40:11]
that. And in addition to that, the
opportunity that we had to apply for the
[1:40:16]
Utah Community Forest um partnership
grant um which is another uh $20,000
[1:40:24]
grant that uh that we have applied for.
Do you know when we hear anything on
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that, Justin? Do you have the time frame
on that? Okay. I know there's a lot of
[1:40:34]
effort putting things together, figuring
out where our inind match could be for
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that and you know obviously we've well
exceeded what that match would have to
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be contemplating on that. So we really
are caring about the trees. I know trees
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have been a concern in the city. Um, and
there's certainly a lot of effort going
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into making sure that we live up to
everything that we need to be able to
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live up to being a uh a Tree City USA
and the Tree Committee is committed to
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that. I did want to mention that uh we
just had a a resignation out of the tree
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committee. Uh Nick Reel would uh like to
um recognize him even though he was only
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in for a short amount of time. He's had
some other commitments that have come up
[1:41:26]
that require him to be able to step down
from that. And so we will be looking at
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uh replacing his position on the tree
committee at that time. So
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that's all I've got uh to report as
well. So, and we don't have a mayor's
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report tonight. So, if there's uh
nothing else from the group up here, I'd
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take a motion for adjournment. So moved.