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Board of County Commissioners Agenda/Work Meeting on October 28, 2025.
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>> in compliance with the open public meeting act of the state of new jersey on january 12,
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2025, adequate notice of this meeting was provided as required by law.
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additionally, this meeting is being digitally recorded and live streamed on the somerset county website.
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for public access, please email your questions to county board meeting at somerset county and j.gov. Director?
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>> please rise for the pledge of allegiance and remain standing for reflections.
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>> may we continue to be the leaders of somerset county,
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committed to excellence and innovation in public service, promoting the well being of all residents and communities by providing effective,
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efficient, and responsive leadership. Thank you. Welcome everyone
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to the october 28 work session of somerset county board of commissioners. This agenda and the items on and for discussion will be considered at our next meeting,
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which is scheduled for november 12. No action will be taken at this meeting,
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and unless the measure and its adoption are needed in a manner necessary to continue county business. Roll call, please?
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>> commissioner graner. >> here. >> commissioner drake. >> here. >> commissioner soe. >> here.
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>> deputy director mrano. >> here. >> director robinson. >> here. >> I have brief remarks to see we have several guests with us on this evening,
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so we will move right along. Thank you to paul kreseller and staff who planned
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setup and got the vendors together for our second annual veterans resource job at wellness fair.
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I was there with my granddaughter. We had a great time meeting the different vendors, speaking with veterans.
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thank you to vfw post 2290 in manville,
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for being our host location this year. They were very appreciative to have that opportunity,
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and will welcome us back again. I had the pleasure of putting my granddaughter to work and handing out
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challenge coins as a special token of appreciation from one veteran to another.
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we also attended our dinner in somerset that used to be catalin.
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they are a global provider for drug development and research and discovery services.
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it is one of the latest companies that are invested in somerset county.
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they purchased, again, from catalin back in last year or early part of this year.
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through those efforts, they were able to retain all 200 employees at that location.
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they are going to expand the facility with new labs and packaging capabilities,
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and they are a company that is based in belgium, and they chose to make somerset county their home.
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we also with the business partnership with somerset county tourism,
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they have been involved in fun engagement as we prepare for the fifa world cup of 2026,
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partnering with companies and other community partners.
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also, in preparation for the 250th, they have been filming throughout the county to showcase our historical sites.
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that has been completed. They have also sent increased usage and traffic on our kiosk.
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so as that kiosk and availability of tourism and information for
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somerset county goes as far as virginia up the east coast through the tri state area.
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so we appreciate all that they're doing and making sure that
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somerset county is getting the visibility it needs as we prepare for our nation's 250th,
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but also showcasing that somer state county is a great place to live,
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work, play, and visit. I don't think we have, see,
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our next meeting is november 12. So happy veterans day to all the veterans,
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and we'll see you. Deputy director. >> that's great. Thank you, director.
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good evening and welcome. Very busy past couple of weeks.
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administrator more and I participated in a team's call with
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senator andy kim and other elected officials to discuss the gateway rail project.
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specifically the rvl line, which boasts about 15,000 commuters daily.
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we were on the call with congresswoman pow, congressman menendez, administrator mar, four mayors,
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one from each of the counties, including rariton boroughs, mayor nick kara, to discuss what's going on, it's very confusing.
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throughout this conversation, the senator just kept saying, we need clarity.
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the president talked about terminating the gateway project,
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which would eliminate thousands of jobs, delay commuting times.
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for us on the rvl, me as a former commuter, that change of train in newark bogs down your whole life.
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it is a real damper on your family life. It takes you from your children.
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when the president of the united states said he was terminating the project,
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the senator is just trying to get us all to understand that he's trying
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to reach out to washington to figure out what some more clarity as to what's going on.
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in the meantime, the mayor's alliance is working hard on this. The county is involved with the mayor's alliance to keep fighting
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for the gateway project for all of us for that commutation ease.
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it is definitely a pet project of mine as a former commuter.
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so thank you to senator kim for keeping that on the docket.
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I also attended another pharmaceutical expansion here in somerset county.
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lupin expanded their footprint here in somerset county.
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they have a facility in somerset, franklin township right now,
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and they have expanded their office space in bridgewater, which is really awesome.
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they make generic drugs for predominantly respiratory illnesses.
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so we love having them there. The governor was there with us. So phil murphy was there for the ribbon cutting of the new office building.
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it was very lovely, and we're excited to have them grow and build their company here in somerset county.
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I also was invited to the bernards township, 250th planning committee meeting,
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and I got to tell you bernards is doing a phenomenal job of collaborating and coordinating with their businesses,
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their library, their community, their town, the county. So they are really getting prepped for the 250th anniversary.
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they've got december 10 through 15th of 2026,
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all getting ready now in the books for all kinds of activities. So pre christmas 2026,
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spend time in bernards township. I'm going to steal some of commissioner graner's thunder.
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we were at the art show reception together for the open air open space art show.
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so this is the second and a three part series. Last year was farm to frame,
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where we showcased our local artist to show our preserve farmland.
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this time, it was local artists showcasing preserved open space.
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I hope for those that are visiting the building tonight, you do take a little time on your way out and really admire some of this artwork.
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it's very, very lovely. Next year is use on history. It'll showcase our historic preservation locations.
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so that was really, really great. 30 artists, 12 parks. Also with commissioner graner,
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we had the fun time of the launch of the montgomery township inclusive playground.
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part of the funds for that playground came from recreation grants through
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the open space program. It was phenomenal.
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I have never been at a ribbon cutting. Where I saw such eager faces to get in there.
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the mayor would not let any children play until we had the official ribbon cutting.
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am I wrong, liz? They were like, cheering. I thought I was on a disney movie like.
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so it gave my heart some joy to know that our funding is going into the right places,
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and our children in the county are really loving what we're doing.
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also with commissioner graner. We went to the sommer strong 5k and 10k race at duke island park this past saturday.
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that was to support the philippine nurses association and their philanthropic works that they do with that fund raising.
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and also with commissioner graner. We went to the duali celebration at the blagi temple in bridgewater.
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they had a lot of wonderful dancers, all ages and speeches.
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it was a lovely time. I thank the temple and their chair people for the gracious invitation to welcome us.
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as the director said, veterans day is coming up. We do have a ceremony in our plaza right outside on veterans day at 11:00 am.
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so it's easy, 11:11 at 11. Everyone is welcome to come.
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last but not least, our public works had their shred event, 01,111 cars, and our household hazardous waste had 767 cars.
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that concludes my report. >> thank you, deputy director morono,
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and I appreciate your advocacy, too, as I serve on the njtpa board or
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the north jersey transportation and planning authority to make sure that we continue to advocate for gateway and the hunter bridge flyover,
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which will alleviate a lot of that bottlenecking that occurs within our transportation system.
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we had a freight initiatives committee meeting on the njtpa.
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what's nice, we have presentations. This meeting, we had a presentation on technology in free.
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our speaker was matt soul, the founder and ceo of parallel systems,
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a company developing autonomous battery electric rail vehicles.
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parallel technology enables railroads to expand market share
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by improving service quality, flexibility, and reach.
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the system works alongside of traditional transits, complements existing operations, and integrates with rail,
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physical, and digital infrastructure. Matt has more than 20 years of experience developing
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advanced technologies within established industries and aerospace.
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he had lead roles in development teams and certifications of
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the world's first autonomous autonomous flight termination system,
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hazard analysis, and risk mitigation for an spacecraft and air force certification of reasonable rockets.
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we had a wealth of information, which we were able to use to make further decisions on that board,
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and that's $3 billion of federal funding that we appropriate for infrastructure and planning throughout the northern part of new jersey.
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later on this evening, I am proud to say that I will be attending right after this, of course,
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a dinner for the adult day center, and they will be honoring laura de prato,
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and anyone who has met laura knows that she is a breath of fresh air and can light up a room.
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this year's recipient of the steve caliper community leadership award.
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anyone who also met steve understands that his energy was he had that personality that was bigger than life.
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I couldn't think of a better person to be receiving this. She's a trailblazer and ceo journalist and horticultural therapy practitioner
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whose work has transformed lives across all ages and abilities from cancer patients and
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caregivers to senior citizens and memory care and individuals in recovery.
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laura's nature based programs brings healing, hope, and connection to our community.
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her impact reaches far beyond programming. Laura has championed horticultural therapy through advocacy,
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education, and public service, including launching adc's own horticultural therapy initiatives in
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2012 and authorizing legislation that established the new jersey horticultural therapy week in 2015.
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so I just want to express deep gratitude and appreciation
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for all the work that she's done throughout our community. For veterans day around the corner,
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while we're in person here, I thank all our veterans for their service to give us a life that we have today. Thank you.
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>> thank you, commissioner. Last week,
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I attended a workshop hosted by department of human services,
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the department of health, and the richard hall halth and wellness center. It certainly was an incredible meeting discussion
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as the program embarks on a new program with a goal of harm reduction.
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this program includes a fully equipped mobile van and substance use counselors
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who are looking to bring support directly to those who need it. We use data from the county to identify hot spots or activity centers,
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and nine municipalities were identified as places really to focus our energies.
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we want to thank all those who came out to this workshop, including representatives from many of the municipalities, police,
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business administrators, and several mayors came out really to discuss this important topic.
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we look at harm reduction. It's important to understand what it is.
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harm reduction is rooted in respect, compassion, and the belief that every person deserves dignity, safety,
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and the opportunity to make positive changes at their own pace and in their own time.
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it's about meeting people where they are, not where we wish they were,
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and working together to reduce the negative consequences of drug use, stigma, and isolation.
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in our county, we've seen 399 overdoses from january 1 through september 30 of this year.
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a number that touches every part of our community, from families to schools to emergency responders,
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27 of that 399 overdoses resulted in a fatality.
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>> seventy percent of those fatalities were attributed to the use of fentanyl.
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we can look at 27 people who basically died from the use of drugs.
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but behind each number is a person, someone's child, a friend, a neighbor.
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harm reduction invites us to respond not just with the policy, but with humanity.
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a few months ago, our research for recovery outreach workers connected with someone who had overdosed multiple times.
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through harm reduction, access to narcan, safe use education, and a trusted connection.
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that person is now in treatment and rebuilding their lives. Stories like this show that harm reduction isn't about enabling drug use.
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it's about keeping people alive long enough to have a chance to heal and to recover.
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really, that's my message for today, but it's end of my report. Thank you. >> thank you, commissioner drake.
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it looks like the supplemental nutrition assistance program, otherwise known as snap benefits for november 2025 will not be available on november 1st.
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this delay directly impacts 11,480 active snap
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recipients in the county and places an enormous strain on our existing food access infrastructure,
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which includes two primary food banks, eight food pantries across locations throughout the county,
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and 30 total food access sites plus six senior wellness centers.
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the somerset county food coalition convened an emergency meeting yesterday to address this.
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as in past crises, the county through coordinated efforts with our oem and
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somerset county community organizations active in disaster or sc-coad,
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is mobilizing community support and urges residents, businesses, and community groups to support this effort by volunteering or donating.
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a list of local food banks can be found on the county website.
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furthermore, we call on our schools to take the crucial step of ensuring that all eligible students are enrolled in
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free or reduced price meal programs to ease the financial burden on families.
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by coming together, we can ensure that no one in somerset county goes hungry during this period of uncertainty.
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the county sent a letter to the mayors and business administrators in all 21 municipalities,
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making sure they understand the implications and resources, and another letter to the somerset county business partnership
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asking for private sector assistance with donations or food drives. Medicare open enrollment runs until december 7th.
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if you have a prescription plan part d or a medicare advantage plan, now is the time to review your coverage.
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the state health insurance assistance program or ship offers free confidential and unbiased guidance
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from experts to help with these critical decisions. You could call them at 908-704-6319 or email at
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ship@somersetcountynj.gov to schedule an appointment before slots fill up.
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the somerset county department of human services, along with the prosecutor's office and educational.
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partners hosted author and speaker matthew boci for over 500 students on october 8th and 9th.
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boci known for his memoir sway, shared his powerful decade long journey of overcoming
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the trauma of losing his father on 9/11 addiction, depression, and ptsd.
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his mission is to reduce the stigma of addiction and mental health and inspire others to seek support.
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workforce development, this healthcare sector is facing a critical need for workers.
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tomorrow, the greater riden workforce development board is teaming up with the state department of labor to host
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a discussion about certified home healthcare careers from 1:00-2:25.
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residents who are eligible for temporary assistance for needy families, general assistance or snap are invited to free computer skills classes provided by
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the digital equity training program in partnership with the workforce development board of northwest new jersey.
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collaboration with zufall health, there will be a fast track to interview workshop on november 19th in morristown.
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you could see a list of high demand positions with competitive salaries and opportunities for advancement.
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for more information, visit online at thegerwdb.org.
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over at rvcc, the county college is one of
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four new jersey colleges invited to nashville for a two-day event concerning short-term workforce credentials.
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the rvcc foundation had a record fund raising year so far,
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raising over $2 million. Most of the funds are for student scholarships as critical need as
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both federal and state agencies begin to cut student financial aid programs.
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because of changes at the us department of education, many of our fafsa applications have been rejected.
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there are now no officers to help resolve the situation. As a result, rvcc faces a federal shortfall of well over $1 million,
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but as dr. Mcdonough, the president of the college reports, the college will continue to serve students,
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including those who are most vulnerable. Healthier somerset discussed the funding challenges that
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many community-based organizations are experiencing for instance,
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snap ed lost funding and is no longer able to support the farmers protos program.
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rwjh somerset is coordinating the remaining distribution for the fall.
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the coalition also acknowledged the pending changes to snap and wic coming this saturday.
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the food insecurity and healthy eating committee, along with the county are working on plans to address
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potentially increased gables usage of food banks. Now, finally, on public health and safety.
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since our last meeting, the oem has responded to 29 calls for response coordination and
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support within the county and provided support through mutual aid to surrounding counties three times.
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in addition, they provided support and coordination to one large planned event within the county.
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the training academy held 67 classes for fire ems, oem,
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and/or law enforcement since october 14 to include the emr or
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emergency medical responder class run for votex on site for the location for student credit.
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thank you, madam director. >> thank you. We will now move on to citations for our state senior art show winners.
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>> oh, thanks. >> can I have our senior artists come on up, please?
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I'm so happy to see you guys again. We've got four.
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I've got vamalia, and
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waltron and milt, and leo cardia.
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milt. Are our other two artists here, bolin?
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there you go. Come on up. Aaron column.
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I thought they were coming. She didn't make it. I'll just hang on to that on the side.
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well, these three artists were participated in our somerset county art shows.
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if you ever have time, and you want to see some great art,
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this county building in that gallery, as you enter through the parking garage always has phenomenal artworks.
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you don't have to go into new york city to see great art. You can come right here to somerset county when the buildings open and admire.
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our current display, as I was just talking about, was about our open space preservation,
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but prior to that was our senior art show.
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are you vamalia. Oh,
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did we get that one? We didn't know you were coming. So hang on.
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we'll get it. Do you can come on up, though. No, sir. Come on up. We're going to get your paperwork.
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we weren't aware you were coming, so come on up. But these senior artists do great work.
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come on. I swear I'm okay.
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these four are being recognized tonight because they went to
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the state competition and each won an award at the state level.
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I'd love you to give them a wonderful somerset county round of applause.
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[applause] I'm so proud. Do any of you want to say a couple of quick words?
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would you like to say a couple of quick words?
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>> it was a pleasure. >> are we unanimous it was a pleasure?
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I know this isn't you, but let's just fake that it's yours.
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we're going to shift down for a photo. Oh, we got yours. It's coming. We don't even have to fake it.
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thank you so much. Come on down, so we're centered with that seal.
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[applause]
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>> we have a few communications, one from new jersey american water company.
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notice of filing for approval of reconciliation and proposed surcharge for special program charge recovery period.
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county clerk notice of fees collected for somerset county for
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september 2025 in the amount of $4,947,058.14.
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at this time, we will ask that our senior engineer,
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matt looper come up to do a presentation.
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>> thank you, director. Good evening. As you can see, from the powerpoint,
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I'm going to be giving a presentation about the washington valley park trail access and hawk watch entrance driveway.
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this is an ongoing project that's being undertaken by somerset county in the washington valley park,
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which is in our somerset county park commission owned properties.
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I'll give you an overview of the park, the purpose and needs of this project, and then a comprehensive overview of the design process.
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behind me is adam slutsky assistant county engineer, and peter bond from tnm associates,
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who was the design engineer for this project.
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washington valley park, bridgewater township, 719 acres.
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it's lies on the first watchung ridge in bridgewater township. The park contains the former brown brook elizabethtown reservoir.
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that has become the focal point of the park along with a network of trails. The second largest park in somerset county,
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after the sourland mountain preserve, which is 6,000 acres. The next one being colonial park in franklin township at 685 acres.
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park is located in the first and second watchung mountains at the geographic center of somerset county.
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it consists of forest, open freshwater, wetlands, marshes,
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impressive rock outcroppings, numerous historic features, and a 21-acre reservoir.
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with more than seven miles of trails, they're great for hiking and some of the best mountain biking in the state of new jersey.
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in addition, the parks hawk watch area is one of the east coast premier locations to watch
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thousands of rafters migrate south every autumn. The body of water for the reservoir has a multitude of fishing opportunities.
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the park. You see two circles on this map.
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as I said before, it's over 700 acres. It has just two access points.
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to the west is that newman's lane, a well utilized entrance to the park at the western end,
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and to the east and the red circle on the right side of the diagram is an access point off voster avenue.
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this access point to the east is limited. It has limitations and has been targeted by somerset county since
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the 1997 master plan for this park for improvements and reiterated in
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2005 with our capital facilities plan as a target for improvement due to its limitations.
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this is our 1997 master plan for the washington valley park.
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you can see a few things called out here. This 28-year-old master plan shows the existing access on miller lane,
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pointed out on the top right. It also identifies potential future access drive
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through what is referred to as a future acquisition opportunity.
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it's that gray box on the right side of the diagram. This is 13 acres that the county acquired in 2014.
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the use of that property would be a future entrance to the park.
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in addition to that, you see what is known as the patullo property. It's two properties shown on here.
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most people are familiar with the one that we acquired in 2023,
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the 1.4 acre property known as patullo property. Previous to that is the 9.85 acre property,
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which was acquired in 2014.
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this is the 2005, somerset county park commission capital facility study.
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I've highlighted a few things on this document. It's a long document,
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but this particular page talks about the observations of washington valley park,
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and it talks about recommendations. Clearly states that we are looking to improve
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the parking and access drives to this property. Other observations on the top of the page,
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improve parking and walkway to the hawk watch. The hawk watch area has high visitation during peak times,
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and that mountain biking is a popular at the site. This is a lay of the land on the east side of the property.
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this diagram shows a few things. It shows going from left to right,
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the hawk watch area. It's the circle on the left side of the diagram.
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the associated parking lot, which is just to the east of it. You have the 1.4 acre property known as the patullo parcel,
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which was acquired in 2023. That parking lot is access to the hawk watch,
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the yellow and orange trails, the buttermilk falls, and the east branch reservoir.
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patullo property acquired in 2023. Although it's less than two acres,
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this property holds an incredible historic significance to the county and completed a major portion of washington valley park.
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lastly, to the right, you see miller lane. This red line is the access to this parking lot.
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vosseller road is to the east, the municipal roadway, and miller lane,
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which is a semi-private public driveway with seven residences to the north and
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the washington valley park to the south, shown in green. This is the access point to the entire east side of washington valley park.
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it's a narrow road, and I'll show you the next slide what it looks like.
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this is miller lane. It has private residences on the right side and north of the property, and for years,
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it's been a complaint of these private residences and officials from the county,
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about speeding vehicle accidents and the amount of traffic used in the park, utilizing this roadway, this narrow roadway, which is unsuitable.
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it has got improper site distance at its entrance at vosseller.
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it has all the complaints we just mentioned. We've known this for many years. We started to look at mitigation for this property.
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we added speed bumps in 2013 to miller lane to slow traffic down.
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we installed a new gate in 2018 to restrict traffic after hours due to the nuisances that occurred.
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all these were attempted mitigation measures to try to deal with the issues of miller lane.
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two cars maybe, but anything larger than a car, it's quite difficult.
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they have to pull over to the side.
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it's definitely very now as you can see in this picture.
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in 2023, because of these issues that we just mentioned, the county initiated a project to construct a new driveway entrance
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to the east side of washington valley park to replace this miller lane entrance driveway,
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and to deliver the commitments that were made by the 1997 washington valley park master plan and the 2005 capital facilities plan.
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the mission of it was to improve the access for the existing hawk watch, and the trails and all the amenities of this park.
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what we've shown here, it's a very similar diagram as the one, two slides ago.
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but what we're showing here is a schematic of the new driveway, not to scale or anything,
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but this is showing where the proposed driveway would be, going through that 13 acre acquisition that was done in 2000,
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which was proposed in 1998 for houses,
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11 homes were proposed there in 1998, and the county bought it in 2000. This new access driveway is going into the property and will connect with
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the existing miller lane access point well to the south of these private residences.
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what we've shown here is the existing red miller lane on the top of it that will remain in existence,
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obviously, for those property owners. Our plan is the dead end or code sac,
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the end of that property. The end of that road, and what was shown in blue is the existing driveway that we plan to remove.
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remove all the asphalt back to its natural state, plant some trees,
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maybe, but that's all tbd and not part of this project, but we're willing to do that, and we're going to do that.
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obviously, the purpose of this is to improve the access.
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this new driveway would alleviate all the congestion that happens on miller lane,
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alleviate all those nuisance complaints that we get from miller lane residences,
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and obviously the rest of the surrounding area.
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just to give you perspective, this is going back to the map of washington valley park.
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it's 719 acres, and that little green line to the east is this project.
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it encompasses a total of 2.14 acres. That's the limit of disturbance for this project,
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which is less than one third of 1% of the park size.
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what I'll go through now is a little overview of the design process.
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I'll go in chronological order just to make it easier. I'm going to go through a lot of documentation that we went through to get to this point.
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we started this design back in 2023. It was bid in 2025,
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and it is currently under construction due to be done in about eight weeks.
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the first item that we did was executed a contract with
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tina associates to design contract to start this process that happened in late 2023.
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it included field survey, environmental due diligence, culture resource survey,
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storm water management design, geotechnical, permit preparation, civil design,
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construction plan preparation, and bidding.
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our next item, which was done three months later, was a due diligence report done by tina associates. We did this.
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we conducted a wetlands delineation in late 2023, a site visit in march of 2024,
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in order to determine the presence or absence of wetlands and state open waters within the project area.
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based upon our site visit, the wetlands were not found in the project area. Finding of their assessment and mapping research found the project area to contain
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uplands and to be outside of a regulated floodplain.
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additionally, just last week on october 23, the njdep bureau of coastal land use
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compliance and enforcement conducted a site visit of our property, and the dep provided a verbal commitment that the project is not in regulated area,
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and therefore would not have triggered the requirement for a wetlands permit. The project is not located in a floodplain,
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and no freshwater lettins are impacted, and therefore, no land use permits from the dep or any federal agency were required.
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in addition, in this due diligence report, through site inspection, design research,
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the county's consultant determined that the site does not contain any known occurrences of endangered species.
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our next item, which was done in january of this year was a state historic preservation office chipo approval.
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as many of you know, this is a historically significant site. The project footprint extends into the bridgewater encampment historic property,
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which is listed not only in the new jersey register, but the national register of historic places.
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we knew this going into the project. It also falls within
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the archaeological site which contains a national register listed archaeological site.
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we did a phase 1a, a phase 2a, 2b, phase 1a, 1b,
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and a phase two archaeological survey was conducted for this project.
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this necessitated a submission of the application for project authorization under the new jersey register of historic places act,
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and this letter is the authorization for construction under the new jersey historic places act that was obtained by
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the ngatep historic preservation office on january second of this year.
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our next item, which was done just two weeks later was a coordination letter to the from the county to bridgewater.
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knowing that we've gotten through our due diligence, our shipo approvals,
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we're still working on storm water management, the county coordinated with the township of bridgewater.
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we sent a letter from our county administrator to the mayor of bridgewater. The letter stated this.
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the somerset county's plan to construct a new 1,500 foot long 20 foot wide pervious pavement entrance road to washington valley park this summer.
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access to the park from miller lane will be restricted once the new road is constructed.
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this new entrance road will separate traffic from the miller lane traffic, thereby alleviating speeding and traffic concerns along miller lane.
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the new entrance road will begin off foster lane, approximately 200 feet to the south of miller lane.
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the new entrance road will be increased site distance compared to miller lane, and therefore be safer.
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proposed access road alignment will follow an existing easement containing a water line to
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minimize tree clearing and allow maintenance access for the water company to the water line.
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an electric operator gate will provide an entrance to foster road, and no lighting or curbing is proposed.
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next, about a month later, I came before this board and received authorization to bid this project.
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it's a standard resolution that we do for all construction projects. The resolution states that it's authorizing plans and received a bid for this project.
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I just pause here on the whole on all of the documents. I just want to go through the actual design of the project a little bit here.
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this is showing our efforts to incorporate green infrastructure and post pavement design.
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what you see in this diagram is our cross section of our road. It's a 20 foot wide roadway.
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it's the narrowest roadway we can do with two way traffic. It shows the 10 foot wide lanes and the two foot grass shoulders.
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it shows the porous asphalt surface course, which is 2 inches thick,
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and two foot grass shoulders. It's our typical roadway section for this project.
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next. It's our five plan sheets. I'll go through these pretty quickly from west to east.
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this area in gray is the new road, it connects up at the western end of the project where miller lane is,
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you see that hashed area that is where miller lane comes from the top of the diagram to the south.
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this is where the new driveway meets the existing miller lane. This is a contract plan for the project.
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it represents the work that is necessary to accomplish the construction of this new driveway.
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everything you've seen in the next five slides shown in gray is the new driveway,
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01,500 feet long, 20 feet wide. It also shows a smooth design vertical profile with proper design grading.
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it is the area necessary to construct this driveway. It is limited to the greatest extent possible,
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in the most cost efficient and cost effective way. But everything within this limited disturbance
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defines the clearing site for this project. Everything necessary, but limited where
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possible is to be removed in order to construct this driveway.
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sheet two, simply shows the high point of the road.
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you can see the 20 foot wide roadway. As you can see, this gray area is the new driveway.
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as you can see, all trees and vegetation will need to be removed to construct this road.
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the driveway, along its 1,500 foot length and 20 foot width, could not be designed or constructed without
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all material being removed by the contractor, including all trees, brushes, sticks, rocks,
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and earth to ensure the proper grading of the driveway is achieved.
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it's our middle slide. It's three. This shows the straight section,
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and you can clearly see it starts coming down to the east towards vosseller avenue.
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next slide, please. Our next slide, our shoot four.
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this is showing a trail crossing with a proper crosswalk from north to south so people can safely cross over this new driveway.
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then our last slide shows where this new driveways up with vos avenue.
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it shows improved sight distance, improved sight distance versus miller lane.
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it also doesn't show on this diagram, but it will have an automatic gate at the entrance to restrict traffic after dark.
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the next thing we did in our chronology here on february 18, 2025.
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we had a virtual meeting with bridgewater township. The township reached out to us about two weeks earlier than this on february 7,
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asked us for a meeting to talk about the project, to look at the plans for the project.
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adam and I. Had a virtual meeting with municipal officials, their engineer, the director of municipal services.
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we showed them the plans. We showed the previous slides that we just talked about.
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we presented the scope of work of the project. We answered their questions,
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and there were no concerns raised at the meeting that we looked at after the meeting.
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next thing up is our storm water report on march 20, 2025.
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as I stated earlier, during our due diligence, no dep land use permits were required for this project,
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but the somerset county consultant tea of associates prepared a storm water report,
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which is dated march 20, 2025. The project site has been designed to meet
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the flow reduction requirements in the current and future rainfall scenarios. No storm water runoff increases occur at
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any design points for the current and future 210 and 100 year storm events,
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the proposed current flows have been reduced for the 210 and 100 year storm frequencies.
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this is done through the design of our project. Talked about the poorest pavement. It's going to have proper drainage under the road.
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this has allowed us to be able to reduce the amount of runoff from this project. Next up.
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a few months ago, in august 12, 2025, we achieved our somerset union soil conservation district permit approval.
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if anybody doesn't know, it's an official authorization for land disturbing activities that allows a project to
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proceed with a detailed erosion and sediment control plan that has been reviewed, certified and approved by the relative soil conservation district.
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the permit ensures the proposed measures are in place to minimize soil erosion and
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prevent sediment from polluting waterways during and after construction.
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this is addressed to, it's addressed to me, I see. But it's addressed to the county.
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it's signed by the chairperson of the district, and copied on the bottom is the bridgewater township construction official.
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[overlapping]. Thank you. Planning board and tina associates. Thank you.
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sorry. Commissioner. It's even smaller on my page.
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next up, in september 9, 2025, dep issued us a storm water construction general permit,
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which is called the 5g3. The dep currently regulates storm water runoff for
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certain construction activities under its construction activities, storm water general permit.
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this general permit controls storm water discharges to surface water for construction activities that disturb one acre or more of land.
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as I stated earlier, it was over two acres, so we were required to achieve this permit, and we got the permit on september 9.
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next up. This point, the project's been awarded.
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we have our pre construction meeting on september 24, attended by our county office,
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our inspection team, attended by the park commission,
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our contractor, of course, and bridgewater township officials.
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we're about to go to construction. We think we're going to start a in early october.
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we sent a letter to the miller lane residences. We want to make sure that they're aware of
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this project since it's so close to home to them. This letter was also forwarded to bridgewater township.
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just give you a brief I gave a brief description of the project, much of what was written in the letter to the town earlier.
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we also state that the work is expected to take around four months.
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during this time, the construction vehicles will be utilizing miller lane to access the project,
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wanted to make sure they're aware of this. So we appreciated their patience as we complete
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the new access road to washington valley park.
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next up, we have what we're referring to as a green acres determination letter.
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the proposed access drive directly from vossler to washington valley road was reviewed with the nj dep green acres program rules.
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under definition, this is defined as a development as any improvement to the land or water area of a park land that is
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designed to expand or enhance its utilization for outdoor recreation in conservation purposes and shall include construction,
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renovation, or repair of any such improvement. This term may include any of the following,
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which lists several things, including parking and roadways. Construction of the new access driveway meets
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this definition and can be considered a permitted development.
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additionally, public access to and use of a funded park land.
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under the dep rules, any local government unit or non profit shall ensure that funded park land is open,
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that reasonable public access as determined by the department is afforded to all new jersey residents.
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as we discussed, the new proposed driveway will allow direct access from vosseller to the park from a residential collector road in boss,
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which is along with a park sign and a park entrance. Currently, the park is accessed via miller lane,
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which is a narrow dead ended residential roadway. Our next point here is about disposal or diversion of funded park land,
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and unfunded park land. The dp acres program rules indicate that a local government shall not divert to use other than
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recreational or conservation purposes unless the local government unit obtains prior approval.
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the construction of this new access driveway to improve public access to the park does not constitute a disposal or just diversion of parkland,
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as stated above, it is our opinion and the opinion of tm associates, and we agree with it.
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it is our opinion that the construction of the new access driveway for the park meets the development requirements as set forth by the dep program rules.
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in addition, we've reached out to dep and the green acres unit.
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we're going to coordinate with them on this project and ensure that they agree with that statement.
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in conclusion, to construct this project,
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took many steps, planning all the way back in 1997 to 2005.
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we looked at mitigation for miller lane. We looked at concepts, we communicated, we coordinated.
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we started design. We did construction. We did all the things in that,
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did our due diligence, our permitting. We looked at wetlands, storm water, hydrology,
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utilities, and here we are tonight. We have about eight weeks to go with this project, weather dependent,
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and somerset county took all reasonable and necessary steps to deliver this project in the most cost effective,
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cost efficient way to deliver a great enhancement to one of our most valuable assets,
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washington valley park. Thank you. Thank you. Very thorough and comprehensive update
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of what's the timeline from 28 years ago to date.
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thank you for that. I'm going to take a point of privilege. I suspect that most of our guests tonight are here on this topic.
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at this time, I'm going to open the floor for a motion for public on this topic only.
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motion open to public. Second. All in favor? [background]
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the rules of engagement. 5 minutes, no yielding of time, no coming up a second time,
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and our clerk will inform you when you into a close mayor.
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>> please state your name and address when you come to the mic for the record.
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>> I will do that. I'm not used to being on this side of that day. Matthew mench, 1303 roger avenue,
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and the mayor of bridgewater. In order to be respectful of everyone's time and use my five minutes wisely,
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I'll get right into addressing some of our concerns. First of all, I appreciate the presentation that was made tonight.
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one of the things that's unique about this project and causing some of the concern amongst our residents is that if this project were being done by a private developer,
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as a baseline issue, they'd have to come in front of and use board, zoning, or planning.
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all the issues that have been talked about by mr. Loper would have been presented in front of
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our planning board or zoning board, as appropriate. There would have been an opportunity for questions in public,
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from residents, from board members, from interested parties, to fully understand the project,
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as well as to ask questions or impose conditions, things like that. The county is not required to come in front of a township land use board.
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school boards come for courtesy reviews. There's nothing that prohibits it.
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it's a courtesy review, not required, but could be done. But the issue that was missing in a lot of that is speaking for myself,
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anybody here who wants to speak can speak for their own personal opinions, is that when you look at the diagram that was shown,
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the nice map with the little line drawn and consistent with the letter we received in
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january was I personally don't have an objection to a access road.
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in concept, not a problem. But what's missing is any discussion anywhere
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of the scope of the tree removal that's there, the plants say 34 trees.
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I've heard resins talk about, will they only meant big trees? No, it's broken down by size of tree.
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when you look at that nice little map and say, this makes sense, I guess.
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it doesn't reflect the conditions on the property.
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when you go out there, and I'm sure at this point, probably most of you have gone by it,
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if you weren't there before, you've seen it, it's jarring. For residents who have no idea about meetings that take place.
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I imagine your meetings aren't typically like this.
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that's true, even for our township meetings, you don't have widespread public engagement.
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land use sports typically get more. When you look out and our township raised concerns in august,
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we asked three questions of our engineer reached out to one of your engineers to say,
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we were concerned about the tree removal. Then when we thought it was 34 trees, we were concerned about the site distance.
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the response back was, we're not replanting trees, and we're not concerned about the site distance.
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that was when it was 34 trees. When we go out there and we see clear-cutting of two acres of property
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that if that was shown in anything that our officials have seen,
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it was not apparent that what is occurring on that site is what is represented in those diagrams.
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the concern that we have, and I'm here on behalf of, is not to debate whether the road is or
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isn't a good idea from the purpose of access to the park. It's the concern first and foremost of,
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with the removal of these trees, that site, as you all know it's at the top of the mountain.
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we spent a million dollars repairing vossler avenue about 800 yards or less from that entrance there.
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I understand for the first time here that there may be a stormwater report is first of that what has occurred there.
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now putting macadam on there, asphalt, whatever the material that's being used is not creating
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a river conditions that are going to take place. As we all know with ida, chimney rock road destroyed,
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vossler destroyed, right in the middle there. As of right now, our residents want to make sure that we understand
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what mitigation is or is it needed to be able to ensure that,
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with the new conditions on that site, our residents are not at risk because of increased flooding.
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[noise] if any other entity other than the county, any developer was to come forward,
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a resident wants to remove three or four trees from their yard, they got to get permits,
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they got to get studies. If it got to help a developer that comes in front of
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our land use boards and wants to remove that level of trees, assuming it got approved,
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there'd be requirements for replacement of trees or payment into the tree fund.
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I understand that the courts will debate whether or not you have to do that.
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but whether you legally have to or not. Thank you. Whether you have to do that or not, you should,
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because removal of 300 trees for over two acres, like every other developer in bridgewater,
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has to replace trees either on site or into our tree fund so that we as a community,
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don't lose the benefit of that natural resource. The county should commit to replacing those trees,
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coming up with a plan on site or off-site to replace what has been destroyed,
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and ensure that our residents can be confident that the runoff from that site is not going to impact our community in that area.
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last but not least, we want to understand what the future scope of the project is. Nothing has been mentioned about apparently a new building going on.
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there's a contract on there today. Nothing in the plans that were talked about just now.
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nothing that I've seen discusses what, I understand to be a center.
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we want to know what is next. Is this it? Or is there another round of tree cutting,
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and we're going to be back here saying what's going on? I appreciate your time and your attention to this matter. Thank you very much.
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>> commissioner, if I may. Just to address some of those.
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mayor. Traditionally, when we did improvements to somerset county patriots ball park,
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when we did improvements to richard hall, which are going now. We did a courtesy review.
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I did appear in front of your planning board. When we do structures or buildings,
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that's traditionally when we go to it. A road system or driveway, not really.
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it's just a simple thing. But with regards to any time there was a structure that was going to be built in your town, or hillsboro,
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or any other town, we do engage the planning board and your planning board officials.
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your zoning board officer has been working with us on the issues with richard hall,
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as we continue to do some improvements there. We do do that, just want to make sure that we don't just guard you all the time.
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>> understand. >> fair enough. The plans and for the trees.
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there is another line item in that bid spec. It's called site clearing.
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in that when you read it, it says, all trees and everything will be removed.
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there are separate items for the 34 trees. There are two separate distinctions in there.
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I'm just calling that out in case you never saw the bid specs. They're in there. They're posted online.
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you can go look at the bid tabulation. Four different contractors bid on that.
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they each had a different price for it. One was as high as $120,000 for site clearing.
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one was 13, one was 40, one was 60. The reduction in flooding.
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the current stormwater regs of the state in new jersey say, anytime you do any improvement, it used to be,
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it just had to not make it any worse, it had to stay the same. Now, as you know, we have to reduce it, and we did.
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it is contrary to common belief that that road will actually handle water better than the forest.
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but science, and the stormwater report says it will. Reason for that, dirt water sheets down.
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this is more porous. When it rains, it goes through the pavement,
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that's porous, means it goes through it. There's stone underneath it, there's drainage,
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it slows the runoff, it slows it down, we've improved.
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I know it sounds crazy. Trees should absorb water better than roads,
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and nor do I advocate paving everything for this purpose. But it does do that job,
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we will provide you with that stormwater report. The only thing I got to fight with you on, because I got to do one of them,
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because otherwise I won't feel good at night about myself, is your own tree ordinance exempts you.
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>> but we would've cut down 300 trees. >> I know, but you made it sound like
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we're the only people exempt from your tree ordinance. It says the town is also exempt when they want to cut trees in
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their own public parks. Just being fair. >> I hear you. I appreciate the comments and on your time tonight.
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I think that's the issue, and I won't modify the time. I understand the rules is just that some of them may not be issues,
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but had the county come in front of the plan for a curis review or had there been some other forum besides,
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this is the first time, some of the issues may have been addressed. Some of them we're still concerned about.
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we'll have issues moving forward, but thank you very much for your time.
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>> government works. I think we've done our due diligence,
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and thank you in making sure the steps along the way that we were
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engaging those stakeholders that needed to be engaged.
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we do not govern through facebook.
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a lot of social media. Anyone else wishing to speak?
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please come forward.
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when government works, government works, any issues in the past,
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I have reached out to elected officials in
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specific towns or municipalities to work through those issues.
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I'm not on facebook. I don't think any of us on facebook working through good governance and policies.
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again, when government works, government works, please state your name and address for the record five minutes.
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>> good evening. >> I don't know if you can care. My name is elizabeth aluci.
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I live at 1776, washington valley road in martinsville.
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I came tonight because you alluded to the fact that there was a lot of information out there,
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primarily on social media about the destruction of the park and all,
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and I wanted to know what was going on. First of all, thank you because I really didn't have an idea this was happening.
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thank you for the presentation, because I think that really clarified a lot of the information for me.
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it seems like they performed their due diligence,
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that the township was notified. It certainly seems like it was done,
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you know, the dep was involved. There were environmental concerns that were addressed.
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I feel much more comfortable about it, and I guess I'm hoping that this conversation is over because it's ugly out there.
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there's been so much, as I said, misinformation and back and forth, and it's hard to know where the truth lies.
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I think I've heard the truth this evening. I hope that's really the end of this conversation.
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I thank you very much for your time.
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>> good evening. My name is glenn grossman, 13 sylvan drive and bridgewater.
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basically, I have two questions. That's why I'm here. I use the park maybe 12 times a year,
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both the washington valley side and the chimney rock side. On the chimney rock park side,
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which I guess you're calling the east side of the park, there's currently three parking lots.
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there's not just the one that we're talking about here. There's also the one on gilbride, and then there's the very big one that
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most people end up using by the ball fields off of chimney rock. I almost always just park at the chimney rock ball fields,
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because that's real parks that I know of who uses it regularly. My question is, why was this necessary?
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I'm seeing that it's already been done already, practically. I want to better understand that.
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why didn't people just expand the existing parking lots if they weren't sufficient,
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other than the one that was up there, and maybe make that handicapped parking lot or something?
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I get that it's very close to the lookout. Some people like to go just for that,
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but most people who use it don't go just for that. Second question I have, just real briefly.
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my tax dollars as a bridgewater resident, are paying both for the county and for the township,
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and they're combating each other with my tax dollars. I don't like this lack of communication.
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I want to better understand how that's going to be addressed. Thank you.
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>> hi, everyone. It's unique to be here tonight. I've been here before.
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my name is stacy friedlander. I live in bridgewater. So when I first heard and saw. Did you get that?
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>> I need your address. >> oh, 10 overlook drive. >> 10 overlook? >> yes. When I first saw and heard what was going on,
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I was super concerned. The hawk lookout is a favorite spot for me.
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we hike, we fish, we do a lot of things in the park. But a lot of the outrage didn't sit well with me.
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as a former environmental policy analyst, I decided to dig in.
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I did get an opa request. With my opa request,
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I also had a principal engineer, a civil engineer, two ecologists,
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a wetlands delineation expert, all review the plans that were given to me,
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and we all noted they are in accordance with the njdep.
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I noticed that we're talking about a new access road,
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which will be connecting vossler avenue to miller lane. It sounds like the goal is pretty simple.
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make it safer, easier for people to reach the trails and park lookout. The old road was narrow, private,
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and not safe for public use, especially many of us who have driven on that, you know that.
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the new design uses the poorest pavement so rainwater can soak in naturally.
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it includes subsurface drainage features designed by professional engineers.
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it includes erosion controls and meets all of the applicable njdep environmental standards.
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trees were removed, but only within the defined construction zone.
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it's unfortunate, but it sounds like it needed to happen. Through my request, I confirmed that the engineers,
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the environmental specialists, and the njdep reviewed and approved the project.
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a professional land surveyor confirmed prior to the project, stating that there are no wetlands on the site.
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the soils are well-drained and non-hydric. The supposed wetlands showing up on the map came from an aerial infrared scan,
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not actual field data. Yet the town was pushing
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a false narrative that the county was illegally destroying wetlands.
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why are we all confused? Even though locally, we have had access to these documents since january,
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there still seems to be a discrepancy in an argument about devastating environmental damage.
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but it sounds like that's not true. Stopping construction now, as the town might want us to do,
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would actually hurt the site, leaving it exposed to erosion and safety issues.
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for me, this isn't just about a road. It's about trust, facts, and responsible leadership.
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when misinformation spreads, we lose faith in our local government.
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I hope that both the county and our township can move forward with transparency,
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cooperation, and respect, not just for the environment, but for truth. Thank you.
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>> my name's pam mccarthy. I live at 830 vossler avenue.
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I can see the construction from my window of my house.
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whatever I've lived in my house for 35 years.
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whatever you guys need to know about the park, you can ask me. I know every tree.
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I know every rock. Well, I'm exaggerating a little bit. I'm getting a little.
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all I really need to know is whose idea was this?
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like, why are we building this road?
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it's when I saw the road, I was like, what the heck is going on?
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what is this? If they really, I've been on miller road probably 1,000 times.
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she's saying it's dangerous. It's not dangerous. They put speed humps.
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if you needed to make the road better,
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make miller road better for six houses.
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there's six houses on miller road. It's making zero sense to me. This whole thing.
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it's like, you know, you see something happening,
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you're just like, what is going on? What is this?
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it's like I couldn't believe my eyes. I know the patullo house.
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I know that house. I've been in the blah blah blah. Now, what are they going to do back there?
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are they going to build a museum back there? What's happening? Let's say,
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we build a museum. Who's gonna go to the museum? Who's gonna police the museum?
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are they gonna put a gate? The kids go through the gate that's there already.
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you park your car, you get out of your car. You take your hand, you open the gate, you go in the gate.
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whoop ti do? My 87-year-old uncle told me how to open the freaking gate.
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they're going to put a new gate. They're gonna do the same stupid thing with this gate.
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like, it's like stupid I'm sorry. It's not making sense to me.
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the kids are going to now use new miller lane or whatever they're going to call it.
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is this going to be a fricking speedway? They're going to be zooming down there.
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have fun, guys. That's all I have to say. Whose idea is it?
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what are they doing with it? That's all. Fine.
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>> cytroen, 34-year-old resident at 654 stengel road.
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[background] c-y-t-r-o-e-n.
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I want to thank you for hosting the presentation,
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which added a lot of information that previously wasn't publicly easily available.
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I want to thank you for bumping up our comments too, to the top of the meeting that's always appreciated.
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I had a couple of questions, but overall, after listening to the presentation and understanding the issue a little bit better,
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I have hiked that park the whole time that we've lived there and know it very well.
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my neighborhood is adjacent to that area.
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it seems to me that though it's written in a master plan from 28 years ago,
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that things change and maybe in retrospect,
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should have looked at a little bit more in terms of the optics.
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what you've done in the beautiful description of the park is ruin a chunk of it.
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for the very purpose of people being able to go to the hawks nest, it now really raises the issue of are they still
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going to really come and be that same attraction that they were before the woods were disturbed there.
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the optics of something that you're doing, even though you followed and crossed all the t's and dotted
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all the I's, may in retrospect, it should have probably occurred to somebody when the scope of work was really looked at,
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not just from an engineering technical standpoint, from an optic standpoint,
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that there wasn't an alternative thought of. For example, not shutting down and demolishing miller lane,
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but maybe pivoting a portion of the front entrance away from the private residences and then expanded as necessary.
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that was never considered. The new location now is very close to a 90-degree turn on vossler avenue,
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which again, cuts down the visibility.
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people are accessing it, driving north from 22. There's a sharp left turn.
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shortly after that, there's the new turn into the driveway, as it's called.
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that limits the visibility of people coming the other way to see that happening.
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if there are two or three or four cars backed up to get into the park,
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that may cause a road issue that's now not an issue.
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but my questions are this. I didn't hear any information on the traffic volume.
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pedestrian bike and vehicular in terms of whether this expansion really warrants that.
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generally, roads are expanded to accommodate excess traffic. I've never experienced that in all the time that I've hiking,
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they're seeing that anybody had a problem parking or getting in or getting out.
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it's not clear also whether the parking light size is being increased.
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also, again, this goes back to what's the need? Is the need really there to double the width?
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if you're not going to increase the parking lot, then what's that going to accomplish? Was the need there?
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I think there are lessons to be learned here in insight by the township,
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by the county in doing and activating a plan from 28 years ago.
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thank you. [applause]
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>> nick kuzo, 83 village drive in basking ridge? Good evening, commissioners, and thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight.
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I live in bernards township, where I serve on both the planning board and the environmental commission.
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I'm here this evening as a concerned resident to talk about what has happened at washington valley park,
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and what it says about how we manage our county's open space. In recent weeks, and as discussed this evening,
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we learned hundreds of trees, 300, possibly as many as 500, were cut down at washington valley park,
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and this land is designated by the county itself as preserved open space.
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according to public records, the contractor that was hired by the county was only authorized to remove 34 trees.
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yet the scale of the destruction far exceeded that limit. The result is a scarred landscape, piles of debris,
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and a degraded area that once helped to prevent flooding downstream. What's most troubling isn't the damage to the environment,
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it's the silence that followed. To this day, there has been no clear public explanation of how this happened,
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who was responsible for overseeing the work or what steps are being taken to fix it.
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as you've seen here tonight, residents are asking, why? What was the need? That lack of transparency is unacceptable.
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when we're talking about public land, taxpayer dollars and the natural resources
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that make somerset county such a special place to live. At its core, this is about stewardship.
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it's about whether our county government is managing responsibilities carefully or whether vital oversight is being lost somewhere along the way.
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residents deserve answers, and they deserve to have confidence that something like this will never happen again.
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I'm asking the board tonight to take these three specific actions. First, to launch a full and independent investigation into how
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this project was managed and why the tree removal went so far beyond what was approved.
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second to hold a public hearing so residents can see the contracts, the change orders, and the communications related to this project.
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third, to develop and share a comprehensive replanting plan to restore the damaged area and protect against future erosion and flooding.
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these are common-sense steps to rebuild public trust and demonstrate that environmental preservation in somerset county is more than just a slogan.
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we all want to believe that our open spaces are being protected, not destroyed.
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accountability and transparency are the first steps towards making that true again. Thank you. [applause]
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>> hi, good evening. I don't know can I move up a little bit? My voice is kind of like, here guys.
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there you go. Hi, good evening, commissioners. Michelle morga. I live on 43 dior street in north plainfield, new jersey.
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my name is michelle morga and I live in north plainfield.
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I serve on the local board of education, and the statements that I'm going to make today do not represent the board.
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like so many families across somerset county, I care deeply about the kind of environment we leave for our children.
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what happened at washington valley park has left many of us very confused and just frustrated,
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and hundreds of trees were cut down on preserved county land.
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reports say that the contractor was only supposed to authorize to remove 34,
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but somehow the numbers became as many as 500.
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I think residents deserve to understand how this exactly happened.
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those trees just weren't you know, scenery, but they protected our air,
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our soil, and our homes from being flooded. When we destroy the natural protection that we have,
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the impact doesn't stay just in that one park, but it flows downstream into communities like mine.
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in north plainfield this year, we did see the devastating floods this summer that happened in july 25,
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and families lost cars, basements, safety.
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they were in really bad shape this summer. Yet when something like this happens,
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when hundreds of trees are cut down that were meant to be absorbed through water and prevent runoff,
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we're told that it's just climate change. I think enough is enough.
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you can't blame climate change when you're actively destroying the very things that help us fight through climate change.
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we need accountability and no more excuses. We need a leadership that takes environmental management very seriously,
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not just when there's a ribbon cutting or a ceremony,
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but in everyday when decisions are being made. I have to say, it's even more frustrating for the people in north plainfield,
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because we no longer have any representation on the county board right now,
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and that makes transparency and accountability all more important.
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tonight, I just joined for a call of action. Residents deserve a full independent investigation into how this project went so wrong,
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and a replanning plan, like nick said, to restore what was lost and prevent future flooding.
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our kids are watching, and they are learning what it means to care for the place that we call home.
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if we don't model that responsibility, then who will?
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I just want to thank everybody for their time, and I hope this board takes these concerns to
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heart and acts quickly to make things right, not just for washington valley,
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but for every community like mine, that depends on you.
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thank you. [applause]
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>> hello. I'll move back a little bit. Jeff lamborn, 32 lisa terrace in somerville.
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the great comment by the former commenter had just jumped up by. I think there's a lot of opportunities for the public that's
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here engaged currently to participate in these processes, not just on the county level,
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but on their local township level. I echo a lot of what their concerns are,
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as far as understanding and accountability into the large amount of trees that are cut.
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I support the concerns stated by mayor mench. I apologize.
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I haven't mentioned said the name out loud before, so trying to get it right and residents here.
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but I do know that the county is taking steps to take this road and what it's meaning,
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what it's doing seriously. I do have faith that going forward,
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you will listen, you will understand what people are trying to accomplish here. Continue on that.
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but I do encourage the mayor here as well that made his comments and the bridgewater council to do the same.
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will you also halt what you have put in your petition, your ongoing destruction of the local environment,
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your transparency, or lack thereof, when analyzing stormwater effects in your development?
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will you provide assurances that these won't occur as much as they are?
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because what I've seen over the years is hypocritical to what you're calling here.
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you dissolved your environmental commission in 2019 when you came on as mayor.
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the township body that is tasked with watching over items that you calling for in particular.
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you're in violation of a township ordinance, I believe, as such. You have no shade tree commission.
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you haven't registered or submitted an entry for sustainable jersey, which is a municipal best practices and an active area.
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you actively increase your flooding downstream in communities like mine, as a result of what's occurring.
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why are you sealing your manholes? Where are your green infrastructure requirements on new development?
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are all these new developments that you're doing adhering to the states inland flood protection act?
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that's the ngdp rule. As county council, demarco has stated,
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your own tree removal and replacement ordinance calls for you to be able to do these same things removing trees without review, why?
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I believe that may be in violation of the state as well. Flooding is a serious problem to much of us in the area.
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council members, alan cardua and philipe pedroso for bridgewater township,
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serve on currently inactive flood county control commission,
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not county excuse me, flood control commission. In an active county regional partnership that hasn't been active since 2022.
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those people are in prime positions to advance a regional lower raton stormwater management plan,
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and similar to how our nearby stonybrook watershed has created one through advice through the watershed institute.
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the county hosted a conference about a regional stormwater watershed plan in february of 2023.
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what changes or recommendations have been published since? As a member and former chair of the somerville environmental commission, I invite you,
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mayor mench and anybody from the bridgewater township and residents has a public meeting to come join us as
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a collaborative discussion because these things take place best in person on what we've learned on these topics tonight.
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I call on you as elective officials and your neighbor to serve
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your community and neighbors in good faith and engage in a regional stormwater partnership with your neighbors,
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bolster your upcoming master plan review, and better your environmental considerations within.
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join us here in somerville in two weeks, two tuesdays from now, tuesday, november 11 at 7:00 p.m.
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in the somerville civic center for our monthly meeting. We're happy to put you on our agenda.
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I recommend you watch last week's planning board in somerville, october 22, you can see an example
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of what it is for municipal leaders to take better care of their environment. Take the pr campaign that you're on right now
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and turn it into one that stands for personal responsibility, not public relations. Thank you. [applause]
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>> manish patel 41 shaffer road bridgewater. I don't have anything as eloquent or
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technical as some of the previous speakers, and honestly, I'd have to agree with just about all of them in terms of what I'm witnessing here.
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I appreciate the commission, the commissioner is providing the detail they have today and recently about the project.
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I think we could use a more detail because I'm not familiar with the area,
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even though I'm a resident of bridgewater. I'm learning a lot about it now. It would be good to assure the residents, once again,
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maybe with something more concise than the whole 40 page document and
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the trail from january that I think is available to everybody,
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including our own township publicly, but just something for the residents.
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I do like the simple question the one resident nearby asked about,
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why the project, what's the end goal, and some assurances about their concerns,
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which I know you have done already. Otherwise, you wouldn't be this far along in the project.
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again, I appreciate the information that you've provided publicly,
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maybe something more concise might help some of the residents locally especially.
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certainly, as you said, we don't necessarily want to battle this thing out on social media.
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the other thing, as a resident and a taxpayer, too, like obviously,
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the local township and the state, the other place I'd really appreciate not having this thing fought in is
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court because we have a lot of attorneys everywhere within government.
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the world series is going on right now. That's our favorite pastime. Guess what, our second favorite pastime seems to be?
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suing each other and costing taxpayers a lot of money.
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I have a feeling just based on what your counsel presented earlier,
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just a little bit of information there. That type of discussion, some of what the gentleman before me spoke about,
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that's called a discussion. It seems like, rather than have the discussion we'd rather have this.
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again, I appreciate your guys' time and letting us speak, but it would be really great to avoid the courts,
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using the courts in this process because you've done the work. This thing's been out there since, I think,
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january in various stages. If we're talking about concerns,
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about the environment, first of all, welcome to folks that I never thought I'd say, were tree huggers and environmentalist.
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join the club. Thank you. [applause] proud to wear that badge for my entire life,
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I think, but I think there's some merit.
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I've been explained to some of the great things that could come out of this project.
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also, I understand some of the concerns because of what we
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experienced during that really awful hurricane a few years ago, where we lost lives.
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certainly don't want to see that again, certainly don't want to see vandalism and trespassing and things like that,
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especially if this is going to be a nice historic point in our town.
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I'd be proud to claim something like that. Maybe the beginning of a guided tour through the entire county,
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about something very important in our history. Again, thank you again for sharing the information.
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appreciate it, and hopefully, this can be mediated outside of a prolonged legal battle that will only cost more than
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the original project as it seems to work out normally, but thanks [applause].
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>>good evening. My name is carly joya. I live in bridgewater at 14-02 paley court.
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I have a combination of some prepared comments, but I will preface it by saying some of it
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reflects comments I would have made in my own council meeting and bridgewater, but it was canceled last week because there was no business to
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discuss before the election so just bear with me. I'd also like to make one clarification.
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bridgewater does have a shade tree board. We are required to have seven members on it.
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we currently have three, including one college student from the board of ed also serving on the board of ed.
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I have seen no record of any meetings of any sort or any minutes. I don't know what they're meeting or what they're doing.
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I would love to join that board someday. Now, I'll get to my comments here.
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I just wanted to commend our commissioners for putting transparency and truth on the record tonight.
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I can also add that as a working court reporter, that records and preserves the record almost every single day.
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the record is something that I take very seriously.
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to be here tonight and to actually see and hear the truth come out with
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supportive evidence from our engineers about what our commission has done behind the scenes,
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four months, actually 28 years, not more than months,
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to prepare for the washington valley road expansion project and your vision for that area.
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as we all are learning tonight, I'm extremely grateful to see that the record is finally being set straight.
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now, if we can get social media and the press to clear things up too,
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we'd be in great shape, but seriously know, the press is our friend especially in this day and age.
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I just wanted to commend them too for an article that I saw last week in tap into,
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which featured our own commissioner marano, and governor murphy,
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who had the opportunity to support and welcome the expansion of somerset based loop and pharmaceuticals corporate offices,
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bringing 30 new jobs into bridgewater and hopefully many more down the road.
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why does that matter? Because it's developments like this that tell the world that bridgewater,
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new jersey is still the place to be in the pharmaceutical industry.
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it's also extremely important for bridgewater taxpayers after the significant loss of
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santa fe's relocation to morristown and the more recent purchase of the old ethicon site by ade pyle,
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a three quarter billion dollar northeastern trucking and logistics company.
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you tell me they don't want to make that into their tenth warehouse on route 22 in bridgewater.
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now while our town also litigates the future use of the acorn site,
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I'll be as a defendant and not a plaintiff in this case.
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it's reassuring to at least know that our democratic county commissioners are
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actively pursuing business expansion in bridgewater,
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especially in the pharma space. Please keep fighting the good fight for us,
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and thank you for your time [applause].
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>> hi. My name is kathy giordano. I live at 1063 east brook road in martinsville.
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I'm living off of vossler avenue, 20 year resident, a taxpayer.
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thank you for seeing us tonight. As you can tell, I'd like to just ask by show of hands how many people
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are here and in respect to this subject that we're doing tonight.
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all taxpayers, raise your hand. Very good. Thank you.
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anybody live in martinsville, folks up here? Anyone? No. Anyone drive up and down vossler every day? I do.
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>> I do. >> you do. Anyone drive up and down vossler every day like me? Thank you.
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yes. I do not come in front of county boards.
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I don't do these type of thing, but my heart broke when I saw vossler avenue
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being ripped apart and I couldn't stop and not speak today.
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the problem is there's many problems. First of all, like any of these wonderful people explained,
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lack of communication, water concern.
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we have definitely water concern. Raptor trust just put an article in there that this is where
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all their eagles go and all the safe the raptors go when they release them.
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we have mechanisms right now to protect our environment.
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we're not doing that, and that's very disconcerting to me. The one thing that really affects me most,
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I go up and down that road every day. I wish you all would if you really want to make a difference and understand what's going on.
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there's a curve sign where that wonderful presentation was that you put out there.
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if you go by miller lane, right beyond that, it says, slow curve.
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on that slow curve is where your road is being built.
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I drive up every day, up and down, landscapers,
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large trucks, dump trucks, everything. Yes. Can you hear me?
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I drive up and down every day. That is a dangerous road.
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there's also, while I'm sitting in line here thinking when chimney rock gets closed for whatever reason,
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they patch all that coming down, and I know this for a fact, down to vossler.
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that little patch that shows so beautifully on the screen there, that little area where we're building this road,
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and here's miller, there's a slow curve sign. Someone is going to die.
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there's no way that you can get out of that road safely. You cannot see to the left or right.
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miller, even to merriam, you cannot see. I know for a fact,
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and that just breaks my heart, if we have to come back here and address losing
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someone because of our inability to have the foresight, that this is a dangerous road,
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and that should not be built there. I hope you take that into consideration
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because I don't want to come back here again and say, please stop. Thank you very much.
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>> I'm short, so I'm just going to hold it. My name is kathy franco and I live at 766 wee mack road. I'm sorry.
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wee mack, and that's in martinsville. It's right off hillcrest,
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which is right off ostler. I'm a stone's throw from the park.
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I have traveled up and down miller lane too many times to count.
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at least half the time, I'm playing chicken with somebody who's trying to
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travel in the opposite direction. I have had to pull off. My daughter has run that road.
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she's run the trails. My husband mountain bikes through the park.
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when I first heard about the access road,
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it was a neighbor who said, kathy, what's going on? Because she knows I pay attention to everything that's going on.
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I reached out to somebody who I knew at the county,
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and they said, oh, there's an access road going in. I said, okay. I answered her back, but then I though, let me find out some more.
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now, I go to just about all of my town council meetings,
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most of my planning board and zoning board. I actually do listen to all of
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your county commissioner meetings on my way home from work in the car. Then at six when I get home,
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I listen to the second half, where it's more of the open public.
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I thought, I think I heard something about an access road during a meeting.
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I went back through all the agendas. I didn't find just one,
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but I found four times since january that this project,
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something was on the agenda, whether it was the bid for something or a contract being handed out or something.
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I thought, it's not a secret, and then it was hitting social media,
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and it was a crisis. I thought, that seems odd that the township wouldn't know.
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then somebody sent me the january letter because I am active on facebook.
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I was seeing a lot of concern being expressed,
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but I wanted to find out what was really going on before just jumping on the bandwagon and saying,
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oh, my god, what did they do? Through somebody else's opra,
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I got a set of the drawings. I saw the bid description that went out,
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and I saw where indeed, there were 34 trees that were over 8 inches in diameter.
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my husband and my daughter recognized that there were other trees,
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but it wasn't a heavily forested area, it was an access area.
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it was a right away for something else that there were tire treads that had gone through that section in the past.
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maybe it's twice as wide as otherwise was as a path,
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but I really appreciate the presentation here tonight,
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because it presented to everybody and hopefully clarified some of the misinformation that had been presented.
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I was disappointed however, that even after that presentation,
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my mayor got up and still we respoke some misinformation,
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even though you had clarified it. I am most upset with my township government because if they had an issue,
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they had since january to ask questions.
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they had a virtual meeting with your engineers.
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if there were questions or concerns, that's what we pay our township officials for to bring them up in a timely manner.
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I thank you for this. I personally I'm not really upset about it.
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I think it is a wonderful area, the park.
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I think talks point is an amazing place.
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I want not, only bridgewater township, not only county residents,
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but the public at large to be able to go there and enjoy it.
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that's what green acres is all about. We have two parks in bridgewater right now that are not accessible to the public.
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one is the boucher, whatever it is off,
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I can't even remember the name of the road, foothill road, because there is no place to access it and park,
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and the other is camp cromwell. Thank you very much [applause]. Did I break it?
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>> just leave it. It's okay.
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>> got it. My name is frank newbauer.
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I live at 46 shady lane in bridgewater.
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it basically at the foot of osler [overlapping].
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by the way, I'm frank newbauer, live at 46 shady lane. It's basically at the bottom of osler,
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where osler and 22 come together.
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I've been a very frequent user of the park.
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me and my wife love it. It's like our therapy. We're on every trail, orange, white, red.
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it's just been a wonderful place.
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still? You know what?
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I'll take it off. It'll be better. Me and my wife are frequent users of the park,
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and being such a frequent user, we were actually quite surprised to see this big construction going on.
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I had walked back on that green trail back there, and I was wow, now I can't go there anymore.
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but I don't know all the details of everything.
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it was very informative learning what's been going on. But I was actually a bit disappointed hearing what has transpired for this 28 years,
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mr. Luber, the engineer, was talking about how this project is,
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this land is our most valuable asset. It's the park. But I think mr. Luber
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missed something that was even more important than the park,
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and that is the well being and the safety of residents.
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although he's done this amazing plan of, we're going to put this road in,
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which maybe you need it. I've never gone on anybody's lawns.
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there's only six houses. It's once in a while. But okay, we got this road,
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but a little bit further away by the chimney rock between white and red,
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us residents, park users have to face a daunting challenge of walking on this most dreadful,
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curvy, dangerous, narrow road. I said, what? You've been at this for 28 years.
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you've never addressed this danger choke point on chimney rock road?
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why the dam is there? You're already 85% there.
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a stinking 20 foot little bridge would connect and save the people the risk of being hit.
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we talked about somebody who's mentioned about somebody dying. Well, somebody's going to die on chimney rock road,
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trying to go between white and red, or jump across the road and connect to the orange and go up the hill.
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now, I would like to say, this is something they should be looking at.
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the project might be an awesome, great personal achievement,
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but is it serving all the residents or the users of the park?
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if we can't even navigate some of the park without taking our life into our own hands.
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my wife and me walk on that path. Sometimes she says, "I don't want to go that way."
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we're not looping the reservoir because I just don't want to go on that road.
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I'm disappointed to hear after 28 years,
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they've not addressed that. That's a shame. That's 500 feet. You could have done a better job.
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I hope what comes out of this is not only fixing and doing whatever you're doing here,
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but finally fix that spot. Then we'll have a safer park.
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that's really all I've got. I just wanted to bring that point up. No one's talking about that one.
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that's the real danger spot of the whole complex.
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otherwise, I mean, we've got a super place. No matter how many times I hike this place,
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I bump into people, they say, "we've been all over." washington valley tops them all.
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it's really good. That's all I've got. Thank you again.
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>> good evening. I'm michael kirsch. I live at 25 danbury lane in bridgewater.
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I'm also a councilman in bridgewater. I also have eight years experience on our zoning board,
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six years experience on our planning board. Before asking a couple of quick questions,
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there's definitely a few comments that have been made that need to be clarified,
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not from the dais, but from the audience. Anybody who implies that bridgewater's government,
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its elected officials, its employees, its planning board, it zoning board,
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or anybody else are not good stewards of our land and our assets,
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is creating a false narrative. It's just as simple as that.
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I have a perception that we're not alone. Other towns do the same thing.
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we all take our commitment to the land very, very seriously.
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>> your comments about this issue. >> I will get to this issue, yes.
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I will say that there was a comment made previously about the world series.
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in my mind, there are a couple of examples where maybe some things we were batting out of order.
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during this meeting, we've heard there's more plans.
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they're going to build something over here. Maybe that part of the road is going to be expanded further.
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maybe there'll be more parking. Where is that presentation? Where is the vision for what this full park is going to look like?
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it feels like we're batting out of order. Let's build the road,
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build it, and then they will come. The question that I have, I think the question many of us have is,
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what is this thing ultimately going to look like? Why was that not provided at step 1?
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instead of building a road to, we're just not quite sure what's going to be there at the end.
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that's certainly one question. I know this is not the time for answers, but I'm hoping that through further dialogue,
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we can understand that. The second thing, toward the end of the presentation,
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there was a memo written, I believe, as t&m. Is that the engineering firm on october 24th,
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stating, you're good on green acres. If that designation from an engineer,
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not from the state came on october 24th, why were the saws out on october 13th?
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it feels like, again, a little bit of batting out of order. The letter is in hand october 24th, and that's great.
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the trees were gone on october 13th. Final area I want to ask about is the site distance and the safety issue.
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it's my understanding that bridgewater township raised the concern about the exact spot and whether it was at a safe part of the curve.
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what I've heard is the county said, "no, we got it. We're good." that was the end of the story.
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I believe there needs to be a a deeper consideration
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of what can be done to make access to this site as safe as possible.
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thank you [applause].
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>> great. >> before you continue, I see the end of the line, the lady in the burgundy jacket.
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are there any others wishing to speak beyond her?
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please come forward and stand in line or sit near, so we can get because we do want to hear from you.
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we just want to want to gauge where we are. We did have a couple of guests that left that we're here for another reason,
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but we want to be respectful of your time as well. So thank you.
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>> great. Tim checko, 120 top of the world way, green brook.
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first, I wanted to really thank everybody up here, including your wonderful presentation.
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it was very informative. I have some appreciation for all the paperwork that you needed to actually complete.
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I thought that was very thorough, and it was great to hear how you had planned out the strategy.
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a couple of things that I actually did notice here.
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shanel, you indicated we don't manage by facebook, but while there were seven different reports,
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none of those reports were really something that I think most of the people in this room would have probably read in their average daily course.
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I liked the letter that you sent to the people on miller lane. I think if there was some kind of communication that was
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available to the wider amount of people in this room to bring greater awareness,
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that might have helped alleviate some of what we're going through right now.
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the second piece is, it seems like there were two line items.
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one was for 34 trees, and then there was a second just general notice that we were clearing 1,500 feet of road,
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20 square feet, or 20 feet wide. By my count, that's 30,000 square feet of pavement.
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there would be an expectation. I appreciate, in fact, that there'd be no way you could realistically do this
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without a few hundred trees being disrupted.
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that said, I don't know that the fact that there was an access road really pointed out that,
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which is, of course, what you've heard everyone here gravitate to, that it was just so many trees.
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sometimes we get lost in all the I's, and t's and maybe a cliff note version that you could give to the public that
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would highlight what they've all visually observed and have concern about might have again,
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alleviated a couple concern here. The last point that I will actually say,
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because you could probably tell by my dress. I'm the latest person in here in this room to use
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the park because I physically used it about two hours ago. I love the facilities there.
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but I will say you can get two cars by barely.
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I definitely would continue to echo what you've heard that that road was not designed for a lot of traffic, never was.
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I think, for me, I understand what you're trying to accomplish here. Thank you very much.
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>> hello. I'm nancy foss, 1008 helene place, raritan.
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as someone who's bicycled on these roads for decades,
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I can personally attest to the fact that there are far too many drivers who just
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don't give a darn about anybody that's not sitting in the car with them. I completely sympathize with the people on miller lane
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wanting to re-establish the safety on the road in front of their homes. I have a little bit different angle that I'd like to take.
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I'm more concerned with the roadway itself that's going in the driveway.
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I don't know anything about road engineering beyond how to maybe spell it.
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permeable pavement. I'm assuming that means the water somehow trickles through and seeps into the ground.
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that's great when it's water. But we have a lot of freeze thaw here,
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all winter long, freeze thaw, freeze thaw. How stable is that roadway? I don't know.
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I don't know anything about it. Is it something that freeze thaw is going to break up in two or three years,
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and we're going to be repaving? Does it have a 20 year life expectancy, and then we take it up and repave it?
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or are we going to wind up having to take it out and put an impermeable surface in?
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and then we have the problem with runoff. Just if we could take a further look out at what
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this permeable pavement will actually mean. Thank you [applause].
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>> hello, good evening. My name is philip pedroso. I have the honor of serving on the bridgewater township council.
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been a councilman for almost 14 years. Yeah, 5 yohn drive, bridgewater, new jersey.
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I have a very brief point to make. Good evening, commissioners.
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commissioner director, you stated tonight over and over again on government works, government works.
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I listened to that statement, and you said it over and over again, and that is such a factual statement.
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the problem is, is that in this particular case, government didn't work.
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if it did work, it worked poorly. I'm going to talk about two separate points.
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number 1, the fact that we all are here tonight, two weeks after 300-500 trees in bridgewater,
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which is devastated, just cut down. The fact that we're here two weeks later,
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talking about this in a packed room, being presented a presentation for the first time goes to show us how in this particular case,
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government did not work or it worked poorly. The problem here is that there's been
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no transparency in this whatsoever. I'm on a town council. I just found out about this two weeks ago on tuesday,
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a friend of mine text me and says, "look, what's going on?" I didn't know. The public didn't know.
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no one in the public knew about this. There's been no transparency.
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there's been zero effort by you guys to try to get the public involved in this case.
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now, you can say, a lot of finger pointing and letters and this and that. At the end of the day,
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this is your project. This is your land. You ran this project.
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you bid off for this project. You're doing this. This is your project.
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it is your obligation. It's your obligation, as government officials to be transparent and make sure that
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the community is well aware of what you're about to do.
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in this case, you failed the people, and government did not work right.
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the second point I want to make is that two weeks ago, the chairman of our zoning board, jeff foose,
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came before you on tuesday and spoke about what was happening in bridgewater township.
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I was frankly shocked that the next day it was business as usual. You heard about this.
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you were informed about what was going on, whether someone had a misconception of it or not.
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maybe, but you did nothing about it. You didn't stop the project.
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you could have stopped it temporarily and reassessed, re-thought about it, taken some action, but you ignored it.
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you didn't care about it. Again, government did not work. It worked poorly. You failed the people.
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that's all I have to say. Thank you [applause].
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>> my name is joan geiger, 154 hillside avenue, bridgewater, new jersey.
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I want to thank the commissioners for holding this meeting.
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residents of bridgewater were invited by bridgewater mayor mench to be here tonight to
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stand with him for transparency, accountability and answers.
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based on the media attention, our mayor garnered on cbs,
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local stations, and social media, it is no secret.
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the intent here was to garner more support for his claims which I will leave to
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each listener to determine the truth or lack thereof for themselves.
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yet, despite knowing what you were facing here tonight,
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you held this meeting. Mr. Mench in his media blitz on october 14th,
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two days before the regularly scheduled bridgewater town council meeting
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and two weeks before the election canceled that meeting.
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numerous questions were immediately posted on social media by myself and many others.
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when or even if did the commissioners advise bridgewater of this plan?
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what action did the commissioners and our town officials take?
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how many trees were cut down? What size were they?
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were there 300 that later became
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500 trees cut down without anybody noticing? I don't know.
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I've had trees cut down in my yard and I'll tell you, it takes a half a day to cut down one tree,
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and the noise is overwhelming. Everybody in the neighborhood knows it's happening and there were many, many more questions.
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these were legitimate questions. As a mediator and an attorney,
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I am trained to ask questions and look at both sides of an issue.
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as a candidate for bridgewater town council, whose signature issue has always been flooding,
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I was deeply concerned.
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now that we have heard this presentation,
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the question is, if those comments by the mayor were true,
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then this commission had a lot of explaining to do.
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but how did our local bridgewater officials respond?
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they canceled the bridgewater town council meeting that was to be held
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two days after the mayor's media blitz for lack of business.
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so commissioners, I thank you for holding this meeting and being here to provide transparency,
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accountability, and answers that mr. Mench is allegedly seeking?
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I leave our concerned citizens with this thought.
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to sort out the truth, consider which governing body here,
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or county commissioners or their political opponents who came here tonight and
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didn't mention that they are your political opponents. Allowed the public to appear,
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allowed the public to ask questions and allow the public to be heard.
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therein, I submit, lies your transparency, accountability,
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and answers. Thank you [applause].
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>> hi. My name is radwana isla, 32 timberline drive. I've lived in somerset county for over 10 years and
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currently I'm a resident in bridgewater near washington valley road.
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I'm not going to repeat a lot of the concerns I do share with a lot of the speakers already.
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my biggest elevator speech today is on risk management.
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risk is not an issue yet. What I've seen, thanks to the somerset county commissioner is,
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they've done their due diligence. They've had a communication plan.
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we saw it in january. We saw a virtual meeting at the request of bridgewater.
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they were never denied any of this information that is available to all of us.
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living in bridgewater, I expect the same from our municipal government
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that we're also paying taxes to to have that same level of risk management.
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how do we mitigate this before the work starts? Where's our due diligence?
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if someone gives me an id or due diligence, I don't just put it on my desk and wait
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nine months until cbs is knocking on my door or inviting them.
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what I do is I look at it, and I demand answers immediately,
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not on facebook, not on social media, but in a face to face conversation.
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if you don't have a communication in place, that's the time. How do you not just communicate with each other?
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you're in a collaboration, not just with the somerset county.
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we have collaborations with utility companies. I've seen the same thing happen speaking to residents where a utility company came in,
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did not coordinate with the municipal government. Now, guess what,
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residents who've been living in bridgewater for decades have runoff because the trees are all gone.
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they're dealing with it for the last three years. What is happening to these residents?
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this we can avoid. This is a risk. It's not an issue. These are actual issues.
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they had flooding in october 2nd, and nothing is happening to these residents.
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there's no sbs coming in and covering their stories.
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I was at at their doors recently. I speak to at least 100 different residents a day,
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either on the floor or in person. Only a few know about the phase but post, because guess what?
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that's not where you go for governance. You go to that canceled township meeting that we were supposed to have
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on thursday and it was canceled due to not any business.
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this is business and not just this, like I said, there's runoff water happening. Joan has talked about the floodwater management.
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we need to apply it across the board and I really appreciate everyone coming out
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because this is the communication plan we needed from day one from bridgewater township.
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I do this on a day basis as a risk management, not just a risk management,
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but it's called regulatory strategist. I do it before things go into a human body.
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I feel like before things affect our residents, we should take that same approach that a lot of companies take.
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again, I thank for the right things that have happened, the communication plan, the due diligence,
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but it needs to happen in all collaborations and in
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every single government from the somerset county level down to the local level.
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otherwise, we will suffer going forward. Unfortunately, we can't do anything about those residents that are suffering right now,
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but I hope that it's avoided for future work with other utility companies.
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I won't name the street even, but I'm sure the municipal township is aware of it,
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and it's really sad what's happening within our township already, which is, again,
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an issue and not a risk, but I'm glad we talked about all the risk and hopefully they'll be managed.
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thank you [applause].
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>> my name is mary gallagher. I live on 12 highland avenue in bridgewater.
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I am a native born and raised here. I have seen a lot of changes.
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but my concern right now is actually clarification of storm drainage versus wetland.
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because what I'm seeing is the exchange of that connotation or label for everything.
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I get confused. What are they talking about? Stormwater, to me that drainage is manmade.
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it's technical, it's manipulative. Wetlands are natural.
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they're formed by nature. They absorb the groundwater. Stormwater drainage doesn't.
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my concern is now with this whole area, they did what they call due diligence for their wetland assessment.
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I don't think that was run by dep. It was done by what their environmentalist said or did.
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how experienced were they? How what weather did they have?
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we are in a drought. Everything is low now. If you get the drought reports,
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that means if the dep is putting it out, they're telling us that the groundwater is already low.
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what I'm concerned about now is if there is wetlands there that they didn't get right because nobody oversaw them,
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then we could be in trouble with the well water for the people on vossler avenue.
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this is an older neighborhood so is green ole where I live. And I've gone through the same thing.
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there was a case there with wetlands, and I found that the developer had changed
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the dep label for the wetland to stormwater drainage.
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that I got corrected. I did take it to the people involved.
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what needs to be done is a better due diligence to assess the ground.
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again, weather may have been when they did the assessment,
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if it was a drought time, very dry, everything's low, everything's dry.
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I do a lot of hiking, and I've been out in the woods up in harriman and everything. It's as dry as can be.
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it's all fire hazard. We have to be very careful about our water supply.
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again, we're on well water. I know people on vossler avenue who are well and I don't know who's on well water here,
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but I think it's something that should have been considered. I don't see anything about groundwater or water except erosion and flooding.
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but nobody's talking about the drinking water or water that we need.
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anyway, that's all I have to say. Keep it short [applause].
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>> good evening, claudia levin bateman, 94 katherine lane bridgewater.
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I've been a proud resident of somerset county since
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1959 and a resident of bridgewater since 1962,
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and part of my sense of humor. But when I look at this project,
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despite my love for the great outdoors, I see the bound brook reservoir.
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I just look at the second watchung mountain and the east facing side.
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homes, hiking, roads, trees,
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groundwater, storms, I'll leave that to the experts. My concern is the flooding downstream.
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I was present for hurricane floyd in 1999.
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I saw it firsthand. I was on high ground in bound brook,
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but I heard the stories from my friends that left their homes in the middle of the night,
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getting their elderly mother, their young kids running for the door, grabbing their shoes,
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going out the door, water going up to their feet, and before they got to that church,
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a couple blocks up, up to their waist. I went out on bicycle the day after and about second street,
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just looking straight over to the second story of the buildings on the main street of bound brook.
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clearly, it stayed with me. The only thing out there was a big black rubber raft boat with the nypd on it.
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as a juxtaposition, my girlfriend was getting married that day,
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so we had all the wedding activities at her house on the north side of bound brook.
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but we had a steady stream of young girls coming up to the door.
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my mom asked for shoes. Do you have any extra shoes?
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do you have any extra clothing? God bless my girlfriend.
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she only wore black heels, but she tossed him out the front door. I remember going to the bound brook high school and seeing the many, many families there.
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I remember seeing all the supplies brought there. God bless our town,
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there were plenty of supplies. But we know about the project since.
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we know about the levees, they've helped. They haven't always been closed in time,
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so that's a process. We've seen bound brook go underwater. We've seen manville go underwater time and time again,
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we've seen the flooding. We see how route 22, especially on the westbound side becomes a lake.
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it's easy to anticipate the highway dips there. We had a woman drown there.
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I'm going to leave it up to the army corps of engineers,
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the dep, the epa, maybe the universities. Maybe we can get best practices.
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I don't know where the water goes, but I know it goes to bound brook,
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I know it goes to manville. Thank you [applause].
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>> my name is jim lewelln, 477 garriton road, bridgewater, new jersey, I'm going to thank the engineers for a good presentation.
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you had all the proper documentation as far as dep approvals and whatnot.
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I know this because I'm an environmental consultant as well.
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in listening to your presentation, a couple of things.
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first thing, miller lane, was that ever an option?
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expanding widening? Sorry. Was it ever an option?
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the comment is, was miller lane widening ever an option,
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which would reduce the number of trees?
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another thing. Is it a raptor migration pathway?
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that means something to dep?
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they presented a report, and it was a good presentation.
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the question I have is, how accurate was the report? If in the report, it says 34 trees are going to be taken.
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I know what you said, mr. Dimarco about, well, there's a broad brush over here that says, we're going to clear cut.
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but if they had put in that they were removing 350-500 trees,
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would that have raised their flag with dep?
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would there have been some type of mitigation?
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I know from experience that if you go to the ngdp mitigation group,
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the rule of thumb when you disturb land especially a forest,
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is 426 trees, they call them stems per acre.
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if you've taken out two acres, that's 850 stems,
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that dep would force you to replace somewhere,
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maybe not in the same spot, but somewhere.
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the last thing I'll say is that, do you have a mitigation plan?
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you're saying right now, the stormwater report on paper looks great.
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passes, we got it. What if it starts flooding,
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do you have a mitigation plan if it doesn't work the way the report says it's supposed to work?
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that's all I have. Thank you [applause].
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>> jack aluci 17 76 washington valley road, martinsville.
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I listened to councilman pedroza, say that the government's not working for us.
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in a way, I agree with them. His government.
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what I listen to tonight, there was letters sent.
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there was drawings sent out. There was virtual meetings with people in the township of bridgewater,
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engineers, or whatever heck it is. Not one councilman, not one mayor knew anything that was going on.
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answer me that question.
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>> hi, good evening. My name is suzanne mader. I live at 120 fucillo street in manville.
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a few women ago, spoke a lot about the flooding after floyd and ida.
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when ida hit manville, I took eight people into my home to live for about a week,
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including three dogs and two children, into my 1400 square foot manville home.
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I went for a run a couple of days after the floodwaters receded,
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and I couldn't keep going because I was sobbing, because I watched my neighbors and my friends empty their homes onto the streets,
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and it was awful. It was one of the worst things I think I have ever seen in my entire life.
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I can look from my house up north and see where we're talking about.
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I can see that ridge. I don't know if you know this, but a mature tree can suck up
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between 1,000 and 1,500 gallons of water every single year.
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I look at those plans as they were up on the screen, and I see 34 trees being cut down,
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and I drove by, I went and I took a look for myself. That is a work of fiction.
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if you go up and you say there were 34 trees that were supposed to come down and 34 trees came down,
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you are believing a work of fiction. For me, when I get outside and I cast my eyes up to that ridge,
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all of that water comes to me. All of that water comes to my friends and my neighbors.
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all I want to ask you is, where are you going to put somerset county's new 500 trees?
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because according to what we just heard, there's no plan to replant any of those trees.
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where are you going to put them? How many generations is it going to take for all of that runoff to finally be mitigated?
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because the people on shady lane, the people down on vossler,
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and the people in manville were the ones that get that water.
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give us our trees back. [applause]
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>> good evening. My name is mike pappas. I live at 35 mohawk trail in branchburg.
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I'm also the bridgewater township administrator, as you know, but I'm also a former member of this board.
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served on this board for almost 13 years. I'm very familiar with the county's open space program.
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I've been a very strong supporter of it. Certainly this park that you made a very fine presentation about is a dual.
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but I guess I want to make comments about a couple of things.
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I can't emphasize how upset many people are about just the number of trees.
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there's been a lot of comments about january letter, comments about a virtual meeting,
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comments about a september meeting. But at no time did any member of our staff that had
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participated in any of these meetings were told that there would be more than 34, 37 trees.
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that never occurred. I think that's a legitimate criticism of the lack of communication.
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the other thing that is important as the mayor spoke about the trees
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and the requirements that the township has for enforcement of our tree ordinance.
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the county seems to be selective as to which ordinances you follow. You submitted an application for a road opening permit,
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but you didn't submit an application for the tree permit,
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regulations governing the tree ordinance. There's some inconsistency there.
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when this occurred, I was actually out of state with my wife on a trip.
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when we literally the plane landed and I turned my cell phone on,
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it started going ding, the number of texts and calls that I got.
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as soon as I heard what occurred, I asked our township engineer to go to the site
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and to speak to someone in the county engineer's office.
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the second conversation that day between our township engineer and someone from the county engineer's office was,
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would you be consider replacing some of these trees?
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uncertainty in the response.
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concern about answers, concern about communication,
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I think is very legitimate, and we certainly hope that what's been conveyed here tonight
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will give you some pause to think about moving forward with this project,
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as has been stated earlier, and that you would provide meaningful answers to some of
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these concerns that the township and many residents have raised. Thank you very much. [applause]
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>> another short one is here. Good evening, everyone. My name is pat walsh,
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77 rock road east in green brook, new jersey, and I also served on this board.
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when I sat here, we cherished open space.
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we did everything we could to preserve it, and to get more of it.
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in every bit of promo for somerset county, the open space and the ability to recreate,
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that was a new word back then, is touted.
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I'm going to ask you, guys, I'm not going to go on, but I ask a question and I know you're not going to be able to answer me.
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but it seems to me that this whole project,
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just a 27-year plan. I'm going to hope that somebody on this board or in this building,
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looked at the 27-year plan and just didn't take it out and say, let's just go do this because things change, and situations change.
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after listening tonight to everyone, it just got taken out of a draw and went on,
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looked at thrown it on the side, and then your department went ahead and just did it.
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the question is, did any of you, or all of you, know about clear cutting two acres of trees in this project?
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nobody is going to answer.
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but I'm going to say if you didn't, shame on you, as a project of this size.
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if you really valued open space and open preservation, you would have.
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I'm going to ask you, please, don't ever let this happen to somerset county again.
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but how can we be assured if not one person can say they knew that they were going to clear cut 300 trees,
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and you approved this project. That's the governance that we have now.
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[applause]
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>> are there any e mails or phone calls? At this time, we're going to close the public portion on
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this topic and this topic only is the motion took close.
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>> hi, good evening. Andrew baco, 543 barry wood lane, bridgewater, new jersey.
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we've heard a lot of res. [noise] I'll just hold it.
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we've heard a lot of comments from residents that have expressed concerns and
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have been understandably worried that their local government isn't working for them.
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now, we know that bridgewater knew that this was happening.
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we know that they understood it was happening.
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what I am confused with is that we've
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heard a lot of the members of bridgewater's government say, I didn't know.
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ford council members say, I didn't know. For the mayor say, I didn't know.
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we've heard the township administrator say, I didn't know. Somebody knew, mean someone was contacted in bridgewater's municipal building.
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I would just think that a responsible local government,
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when notified that there was work of this sort would be undertaken,
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would go out and at least take a look at the area.
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everyone, everywhere, older than 12,
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has a high definition camera in their pocket. I find it highly suspect that nobody thought to go take any pictures of that,
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that we've determined supposedly, how many trees were cut down based on the height of a woods chip pile.
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that seems pretty silly.
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but to just close up here.
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I thank the county commissioners for hearing the feedback from residents.
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it's very important that you have that feedback, and you hear from the residents of the county of their concerns.
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I only wish that my local government would do the same, that they didn't cancel the regularly scheduled council meeting.
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one that specifically business was moved to because of no business,
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but that's another discussion. Thank you very much for listening.
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have a good evening. [applause]
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>> is there a motion to close this public session? >> seconded.
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>> all in favor? Aye. Ayes have it. County council? >> yeah, just to clear up some things because I think the big question was why.
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the why really was there's a hawk watch up there. In 2023-
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>> [overlapping] if you would please stay, you stay for the questions, given a response.
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>> in 2023, the county acquired the hapatullo property,
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which is of historic significance. That's got lost here.
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why is it of historic significance really is there's raging debate in the historic community on where washington slept.
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but there's no debate on where he stood. That's a spot where he actually stood going on 250 years ago,
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as he overlooked the middlebrook encampment, which was a very important aspect or time in the war.
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it's a site to be celebrated and cherished. It's a combination of finding that balance.
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you want to encourage people to go to sites such as this, to see nature,
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experience the hawks, understand history, but you have to get them there and allow them to do it.
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not everyone walks out their front door. Some people need to drive to sites.
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that's the why. Miller lane is a private road.
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it is not a public municipal street. Why didn't that requires seven people who,
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if that was your house, you would say, no, I'm not letting you put that big road in front of my house.
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that option was not a viable option. Wetlands. Wetlands do not exist there.
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why do we know it? When did we do it? We did walk the site two different times with experts.
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that's required to do it at two different times, because there's a seasonal nature to wetlands.
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you do it two different times. The dep also came out. They don't just walk the site.
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they also do borings. They test the type of soil because based upon the soil content and the impaction and what's in the soil,
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you can determine whether or not that is a potential wetland. Storm water. Anyone who lives in somerset county knows the dangers of it.
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we know it, we experience it, we deal it. We feel it in every which way.
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we take that seriously. There's not a person that works in this building or works in engineering or planning,
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that we don't understand it. We show up after it, we respond during it.
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we provide a lot of money and time to it. We have done studies,
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and paul drake has hosted meetings on resiliency plans.
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we care about it. The bound brook flood control system is something we're proud of.
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it's something that we understand its need. When we do projects,
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whether we have to do a storm water report or not, we do them anyway.
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in this one, it's safe to say, and science says that on the big storms,
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the ones that cause flooding. The small storms trees absorb the water.
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it's the 50, 100 year storm when way too much water comes out,
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that the tree doesn't have time, and it sheets down hills and it sheets down mountains,
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and it goes to our lower level towns. We know that happens. This road is designed to slow that down and to reduce it by 25 and 50%.
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storm water was a factor. That's all I really have to say on this. The plan was not pulled out of a drawer.
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it's not 28-years-old.the concept was 28-years-old. The discussion was 28-years-old.
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the plan is about two-years-old.
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>> this is it. I think we take a bio break.
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the only question I have, county council, is because somebody asked the question why we didn't say anything.
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there was litigation. >> go ahead.
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>> no, you explain. >> there are forms for government to act,
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and there are forms for people to comment. This is a form for government to act.
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everyone has gotten a term. Everyone has been respectful. Everyone knows who they are.
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we make say your name, we make you share your address. The weekend warrior behind the keyboard we don't engage with.
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we'll answer questions that are legitimate. We answer opa request.
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we'll provide documentation. Anyone who filed an opa request, those opa requests were put to the top of the pile, if the clerk and I.
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we get, I think we're up to 10,000 opa requests so far this year. If you imagine that is three a day,
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including saturdays and sundays and holidays. This one, we responded as quickly as possible because we knew about it.
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to engage in the back and forth on the internet or in social media
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is a disservice to the level that this topic really required.
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at our next meeting, which was this meeting, we presented a presentation.
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if anyone would have came, showed up and said, can I get a copy of that stuff, it would have been readily given to them.
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>> for the record, we will take a five-minute break time now at 7:26.
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we will resume the meeting at 7:31. [noise] at this time,
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we will continue with our meeting. We have another presentation of state senior art show winner.
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please come forward. [applause]
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>> you know art requires patience. I think you really have shown your patience levels,
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waiting through all the public comment and the beautiful artwork you
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did for the senior art show here in somerset county,
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and for making it to the state level. May I ask everyone in the audience to give a great round of applause to vamala,
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aaron, and sharon for the state award. You want to come forward, and we'll get a picture?
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>> this is-
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>> we will move right on for our regular program, resolution 25-2100.
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>> it's authorizing somerset county to apply for and accept 37,500 for the leap county coordinated fellowship grant for county year 2026,
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for a part time shared somerset county coordinator from july 1st, 2025 to june 30th, 2026.
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>> resolution 25-2101, authorizing execution of a traffic control signal agreement
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between the county of somerset and the township of branchburg. Resolution 25-2102, approving plans and
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authorizing receipt of bids for excavation and disposal of buried waste,
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battery debris area, former belmed army depot, mountain view road, hillsboro.
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resolution 2521 oh three, approving the property parcel map and designating
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road areas to be acquired for highway and bridge purposes and authorizing the early appraisal of lands and title searches for
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the 2025 road reservicing and ada compliance program, various roughs, various locations, contract 24014.
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>> resolution 25-2104,
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authorizing submission and acceptance of funds for the soreset county tanf transportation contract
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with the new jersey department of human services division of family development for the period of january 1st through june 30th,
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2025, total not to exceed $21,136, no match required.
[2:29:28]
25-2105, authorizing the modification of resolution 25-1170 to increase acceptance of funds from
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the new jersey department of human services division of family development for the social services for the homeless contract
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to add an additional $15,000 of code blue funds for the period january 1st through december 31st,
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2025, new total not to exceed $447,712.
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25-2101 oh, authorizing richard hall,
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community health and wellness center to apply to the state of new jersey, department of health division of mental health and addiction services for
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a consolidated funding application to provide services to the county's homeless population via the path program and services to
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somerset county residents engaged in the involuntary outpatient commitment program for the period of january 1st,
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2026 through december 31st, 2026, and to accept funding if awarded,
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total not to exceed $482,307.
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>> 25-2107, award of contract to granicus for website grades,
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continued maintenance and support, a second year of a three year contract with two one year options to extend,
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total not to exceed $29,737.
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>> resolution 25-2108, authorizing change order one for
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chiller replacement at 40 north bridge street, somerville. It's an increase of $83,039 from the as-bid contract amount of $1,211,619 for
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a new total contract amount of $1,294,658 total not to exceed $83,009.
[2:31:20]
resolution 25-2109, awarded professional service contract to french and
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paro associates for environmental investigation at 5:40 east main street,
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block 2 lots 5 and 5.01 borough of bounbrook, and block 357 lots 1 and 2 borough of middlesex,
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total not to exceed $165,925. Yes.
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>> resolution 25-2110, award of contract cy-com-005-25 to the arc of somerset,
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bound brook borough, casa of shaw, community hope home sharing,
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jewish community center, manville borough, midland adult services,
[2:32:08]
north plainfield borough, safe and sound, somerville borough, visions and pathways,
[2:32:13]
and youth consultation services for program year 2025 community development block grant activities
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total not to exceed $822,190.
[2:32:26]
resolution 25-2111, award of contract cc-0154-25r3 to horizon pediatric consultants,
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llc doing business as rocking horse rehab basking ridge, new jersey,
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for equine therapy services, one year contract with optional one year extension,
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total not to exceed $3,750.
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>> good evening. Resolution 25-2112,
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authorizing a purchase from mes I acquisition out of sandy hook, connecticut,
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utilizing new jersey state contract for swat team ballistic vs, total not to exceed $49,371.84. Thank you.
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>> resolution 252113, award of contract cc-0112-24 to continental hardware inc for lumber and supplies,
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cooperative pricing, second year of a two year contract, not to exceed 6,500.
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resolution 25-2114, award of contract cc-9099-25 to
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premise ford from parames new jersey for the purchase of two four wheel drive
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refrigerated heated food truck vehicles from somerset county division of transportation,
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first year of a two year contract, not to exceed $173,182.
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>> resolution 25-2115. This is an approval to pay a confirming order to shi international for
[2:34:06]
our live streaming and captioning services for the monthly somerset county commissioners meeting
[2:34:10]
for the coverage term of september 30th, 2025 to september 29th,
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2026, a total not to exceed $22,102.
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>> resolution 25-2116, approval to pay confirming order to wex health for
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august 2025 fsa and community benefit administration fees,
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total not to exceed $362.45.
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>> 25-2117, amending and cancellation certification of funds for
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previously awarded contract from 2024 for galls llc,
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total decrease not to exceed $14,359.59.
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25-2118, approval to pay confirming order to fowler equipment company for $964.93.
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>> hello. Resolution 25-2119 is the insertion of
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a special item of revenue for the new jersey division of mental health and addiction services,
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gambling disorder clinician services program grant in the amount of $123,961.
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25-2120 is amending and canceling certification of funds for previously awarded contracts to jm sorgi,
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somerville, new jersey, total reduction not to exceed $23,844.75.
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205-2121, authorizing certification of funds for previously awarded contracts to pkf o'connor davies,
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cranford, new jersey, total not to exceed $2,215.70.
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2122 is transfer of appropriations in
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the 2025 county operating budget and 2123 is a payment of claims and ratification of the same.
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>> resolution 205-2124, approval to pay conforming order for karen hock of hillsboro,
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new jersey, for the hillsboro senior center july 2025, starry summer night program,
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total not to exceed $75. 25-2125, amending and canceling
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certification of funds for previously awarded contract with middlesex county treasurer,
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north brunswick, new jersey for juvenile detention housing for q1 of 2025.
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total not to exceed a reduction of $4,558.66.
[2:36:48]
25-2126, approval to pay confirming order to visions and pathways, bridgewater, new jersey,
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for non profit services for the period of april through september 2025,
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total not to exceed $32,500 25-2127,
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authorizing certification of funds for previously awarded contract for qualifax systems inc,
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contract cc-0121-20 for richard hall community health and wellness center,
[2:37:18]
qualifax electronic health record system fifth year of a seven year contract,
[2:37:23]
total not to exceed $1,500. 25-2128, approval to pay a confirming order to
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the national council for mental well being of atlanta georgia for renewal of membership,
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total not to exceed $5,341, 25-2129,
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approval to pay confirming order for katherine jane's mandatory basic benefits registration training course
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to the national association of county veteran service officers, total not to exceed $400.
[2:37:53]
she did pass the course. Then the last 25-2130,
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authorizing certification of funds for previously awarded contract to continental hardware inc,
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contract cc-0112-24 for lumber and supplies for the wheelchair ramp program,
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total not to exceed $1,560.
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in the wheelchair ramp program,
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it depends on the number of volunteers who are needed. This is a program that is provided through our handyman volunteer program.
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we just recently increased the number of handyman volunteers by over 50%.
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this one, in particular was a pretty significant one that was very, very long.
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I think there were probably about at least 10 people on site, and they built it in one day.
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>> resolution 205-20-1301 approval, pay confirming order of york telecom,
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new jersey for forensic software told not to exceed $14,074.36. Thank you.
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>> 2132, authorize the certification of funds for previously awarded contract to agni enterprises,
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llc for head to heel, safety supplies, not to exceed 5,600.
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2133, approval to pay confirming order to bay shod recycling corporation from atlantic islands,
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not to exceed $66,639.13.
[2:39:32]
2134 approval to pay confirming order to david m. Bittrich inc,
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for auto supplies and middlesex, for emergency. It's the emergency purchase for diesel exhaust fluid,
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not to exceed $7,673.60.
[2:39:50]
2135 approval to pay confirming order to maza recycling services from tint and falls,
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for rigid plastic, not to exceed $133.50.
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2136 approval to pay confirming order to recycling equipment corp for emergency repair of main conveyor belt,
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not to exceed $1,274.58.
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2137 authorizing certification of
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funds to previously awarded contract to atlantic tactical. This is for uniform and equipment,
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not to exceed $1,706. 2138, authorizing certification of funds for
[2:40:32]
previously awarded contract to trius from farming deals for snowplow parts,
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not to exceed 2,500. 2139, approval to pay confirming order to various vendors and parts and repairs,
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total not to exceed $13,055.60. >> thank you. Is there a motion to approve the above resolution
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25-2100 through 25-2139 to the consent agenda for november 12th.
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>> so moved. >> second. >> roll call, please. >> commissioner graner?
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>> yes. >> commissioner drake. >> yes. Commissioner sue. >> yes. >> deputy director morono?
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>> yes. >> director robinson? >> yes.
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>> these are items that will be added for adoption later on tonight.
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this is 2099f authorizing an agreement between
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the soereset county department of human services and the food bank network of somerset county for
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implementation of the community navigator program, 2099g is authorizing an agreement between
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somerset county department of human services and the franklin food bank for the community navigator program.
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2099h is authorizing a shared service agreement between somerset county and the somerset county park
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commission for information technology services, 2099i is authorizing a shared service agreement
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between somerset county and somerset county park commission for public relations services,
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2099j is authorizing a professional service agreement
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between somerset county and the somerset county park commission for fingerprint, photography, and background check services.
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>> resolution 25-2099k from the greater raton workforce development board.
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this is amending r25-1962, which was adopted on october 14th,
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2025 to increase the program year 2025 award to
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career training services of the somerset county department of human services for that period of july 1st,
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2025 to june 30th, 2026, by the amount of 112,500 for
[2:42:34]
targeted training initiative at raritan valley community college, total not to exceed $955,390.
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>> resolution 25-2099l, authorizing the purchase of real property known as block 132,
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lots 10 and 11 in the township of bridgewater owned by somerset land equities,
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llc, total not to exceed $12,500.
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>> 25-2099m is rejecting bids for
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jcc-0023-25 as the low bid substantially exceeds the appropriated budget amount.
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>> resolution 25-2099n award of a contract to feral technologies out of lake mary,
[2:43:36]
florida for ferro software and licensing. Total not to exceed $12,695.
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resolution 25-2099o, authorizing payment to
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the county prosecutors association of new jersey out of elizabeth, new jersey,
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for the cpanj annual college for assistant prosecutors and prosecutors office management association members
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total not to exceed $20,125. Thank you.
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>> thank you.
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is there a typographer? >> [inaudible] >> thank you. Is there a motion
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to add resolutions 25-2099f-25-2099o to our regular meeting?
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>> so move. >> second. >> roll call, please? >> commissioner greener?
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>> yes. >> commissioner drake. >> yes. Commissioner sue? >> yes. >> deputy director marano?
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>> yes. >> director robinson. >> yes. This is the public portion of the regular public portion of this meeting.
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anyone from the public wishing to speak, five minutes, no yielding, a time, no coming up a second time.
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is there a motion? >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor?
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>> aye. >> ayes have it. Please come up, state your name and address for the record.
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>> ed carway, 533 new brunswick road, somerset, new jersey.
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you probably remember me from last time because I did not have a very high opinion of you.
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I am sad to say that that has decreased in my mind since I've had dealings with your engineering department.
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I have a few emails. The only bright spot I have found in somerset county is teresa bonner.
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she is responsive and she tries.
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I sent her an email. I said, ms. Robinson suggested I contact you for
[2:45:42]
information regarding the new brunswick road bridge replacement project.
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I now see that we have gone beyond the original time estimate and there has been no revised completion date.
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this leads me to wonder about the competency of your engineering department.
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a 16 inch water main is difficult to misplace. How did this happen and when will the job be completed?
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she sent information to mr. Loper, and mr. Loper replied to me on september 27th.
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your email was forwarded to me for a response. Please see our project website for the most up to date information.
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the information in your public website is basically known as useless.
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it provides no details, no real information.
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I wrote back to mr. Loper. I'm aware of that.
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why wasn't this project started in june? If it had been, even with the delay,
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it would have been completed before schools opened. Timing was very bad as this job affects a lot of local school bus routes.
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explain the need to replace the water line. What effect will this have on the township water supply?
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same question for the gas line. Why was the depth important?
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if depth was a consideration, why wasn't gpr ground penetrating radar used to determine
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the depth before the work began instead of getting a surprise after?
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what specifically needs to be replaced? What work will not be completed until after the water gas line work is completed?
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the more details the better. Although not a civil engineer,
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I am a degreed chemical engineer with over 40 years of experience in the cpi, chemical process industry?
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there was a response from ms. Bonner,
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saying that she had sent my email to mr. Loper and I got a response from mr. Loper.
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mr. Carway, construction projects
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often face unanticipated events and we work hard to minimize their impact.
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we thoroughly gather all available information to make informed decisions from the outset.
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despite our best planning new information, like the recent issues with utilities,
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often necessitates shifts in construction schedules and activities.
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while we prefer to accomplish major road work during the summer when traffic is lightest,
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this isn't always possible. For example, this bridge work could not begin until
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august 1st due to nj dep permit requirements.
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this is a complex federally funded bridge project with many moving parts.
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the county is committed to completing the work as efficiently as possible.
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in addition, we'll continue to coordinate with all necessary agencies including franklin township.
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in the interim, I wrote to miss bonner, below is the response I sent to mr. Loper
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and my original email to him along with his initial response.
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in it I requested details about the timing and delay of the project.
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he provided some information on the delay, but no details on the problems.
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this is not what I expected or wanted. He did not address any of the technical questions that I asked.
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I didn't want platitudes. I wanted facts. I didn't get them. I find this unacceptable.
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my degree is in chemical engineering, not civil, but I have taken civil engineering classes and I would
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have understood a much more technical answer than what he provided. Basically, he failed to answer any of my questions.
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I feel he did not want to be bothered and this was a public be damned attitude and answer.
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ms. Bonner replied, I'm sorry to hear that. I have forwarded the entire e mail chain to director robinson so that she is aware.
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I will continue to request a response on your behalf.
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on october 22nd, I sent back to ms. Bonner.
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thank you for your continuing assistance. I am sorry to report that I have yet to receive
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any further information from mr. Loper or anyone else at the county.
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am I correct that the next public meeting will be on 10/28? If so, I will have a few things to say,
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which I believe I have just said. I only have one question for you.
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when are you going to to fix the damn bridge? None of you can tell me because none of you know, correct?
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>> the latest update is now mid november.
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I question the same thing. I feel your pain.
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>> one little kicker in, do any of you remember magnolia road?
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>> I do. >> three months, took over six, another county project.
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I've been in engineering for a long time. We have a problem with a project.
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we do a root cause analysis. I don't know if you're familiar with those things. Generally speaking, when a project goes flui in the middle,
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there's one recurring cause, poor planning at the beginning.
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what I can tell you that if mr. Loper was working for me,
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he would not be working. If I took responses like his to my board,
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they'd laugh at him and then they'd fire him. Thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. Carway.
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>> kendra dipaola, d-I-p-a-o-l-a,
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nine york drive, princeton, new jersey. Good evening.
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my name is kendra dipaola. I am a resident of montgomery township.
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I respectfully ask that you pass a resolution supporting the immigrant trust act.
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my comments focus only on some of the likely economic impacts if the ita does not become law.
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due to ice raids our county and state lose workers,
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their work contributions, tax receipts, and their participation in our economy.
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there are other less obvious employment losses happening too.
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ice is a threat to anyone who is brown or black,
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has a foreign accent or works in some low income jobs.
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I teach immigrants and help them find jobs and have neighbors and friends who are immigrants.
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here's some of the ways people I know or know of have responded or
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are responding to the threat of being detained, arrested, or disappeared.
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these immigrants range from low income workers to professionals.
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some immigrants have moved back to their home countries. Some have applied for foreign passports and are poised to flee.
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some have returned to the country they came through in coming to the us.
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employers have become more compliant in collecting i9 documentation,
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eliminating some job applicants from consideration.
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some workers who lost their temporary protected status
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automatically lost their employment authorization documents and are suddenly out of work.
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some in fear and facing higher prices have moved in with family or friends,
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making it harder to get to work, jeopardizing their employment.
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if the ita is not passed into law and our police forces join ice,
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creating what could potentially become the largest militarized force on the planet.
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fear could cause these employment losses to quickly escalate.
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further reducing employment, work contributions,
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tax receipts, and our quality of life. Since these immigrants bring us the stuff we seem to need,
[2:54:23]
mow lawns, provide us top quality healthcare and education and more.
[2:54:30]
our police joining ice would also entail additional spending for training and
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the risk and cost of lawsuits for getting mixed up in ice's racial profiling,
[2:54:43]
illegal tactics, and chaos. It would also cost the trust police have built with the community.
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this is not the way I want my tax dollars spent nor the community impact that I want.
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please pass a resolution supporting the ita to avoid
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these considerable consequences and costs and to protect all residents of new jersey.
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thank you [applause].
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>> hi. My name is debbie farber. I live at 87 highland avenue and bridgewater.
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I'm here tonight to ask you to support the immigrant trust act.
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the immigrant trust act directs law enforcement resources to be used for
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actual safety threats rather than after undocumented people who are not a threat.
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immigrants make many contributions to our communities. They are our friends, neighbors,
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business owners, and members of our community. They make economic contributions and should be
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valued and cherished instead of being villainized. Just like any other citizen in the us,
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immigrants and undocumented people are entitled to amendment five of the constitution,
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which states no person should be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
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instead, they are being treated worse than criminals. Families are being torn apart.
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we need to protect our immigrant and undocumented citizens by limiting law enforcement cooperation with ice.
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please consider supporting the immigrant trust act. Thank you.
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>> good evening, commissioners. I'm sherry russ, 19 reimer street, somerville,
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and I'm here to ask somerset county to join union county,
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hudson county, and essex county in standing with our immigrant communities and families.
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please issue and pass a resolution in support of the immigrant trust act.
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the immigrant trust act is awaiting state assembly approval, and next,
[2:57:05]
it will go to the state senate and hopefully be enshrined into new jersey state law.
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the ita directs our local resources to fund
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local initiatives rather than federal immigration law enforcement.
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this is important to us because we already have effective state police, the sheriff's office,
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and local police departments that fight crime in somerset county, and that crime fighting includes crimes committed by undocumented immigrants.
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there's zero benefit to somerset county residents if we divert our law enforcement efforts in support of ice.
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in fact, ice is not even close to meeting its stated goal of deporting violent criminals,
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gang members, murderers, child sex traffickers and rapists.
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seventy percent of those detained by ice to date have no criminal record whatsoever,
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and 84% in custody have been determined to pose no risk.
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supporting ice with our law enforcement resources will only
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make somerset county less safe, less trusted.
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ice agents often have unmarked vehicles wear masks and don't carry id,
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which opens our residents up to the risk of imposters posing as ice,
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committing crimes against them as has happened over two dozen times in the us,
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and other scams abound, including one that recently caused the ratington township police to issue a warning to all residents.
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ice policies sell fear and mistrust between law enforcement and
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the community in contrast to the way our local law enforcement currently operates.
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many spanish speaking folks live in somerset county, and they can be racially profiled by ice and detained without due process.
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how would you feel if this situation impacted you, if it was your family, your kids?
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what would you do to protect yourself? Do you feel good about other members of our community living with this fear every day?
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show these at risk people that they're safe here in somerset county and let
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our law enforcement agencies operate independently of ice without diverting our tax dollars to harm our community.
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please support the ita [applause].
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>> dawn cohen, 85 millers grove road in bel mead.
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I too am here this evening to ask this board of commissioners to join
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about 20 other towns and counties around the state to
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urge the state legislature to pass the immigrant trust act.
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my husband is an immigrant. My children are children of an immigrant.
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many of my friends and neighbors are immigrants and children of immigrants.
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this issue is very personal to me. Reading the news these days,
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I'm very fearful for their safety. It's very clear from news reports that
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legal immigration status is no guarantee of immunity from ice's dragnets.
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furthermore, all community members benefit from the whole community's access to services that they
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pay taxes for regardless of immigration status. We are all safer when our sick neighbors can access health care without fear of ice.
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we are all safer when our neighbors can report crimes without fears of ice.
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we are all safer when our law enforcement resources are free to focus on their core public safety duties,
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rather than being allocated to support ice detentions of individuals who pose no threat to our communities.
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let's be clear, the immigrant trust act can't stop the raids,
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but it can put a very significant speed bump against their damage.
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I want that speed bump to protect our communities from ice's horrifying activities.
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I urge you to add our county's voice to the calls for action on the immigrant trust act.
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new jersey cannot afford to wait [applause].
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>> I know it's been a long night, so I'll try to keep this relatively brief.
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I'm viriyah hodges from highbridge, out in hunterdon county, eight wharton way.
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do I need to ride down anywhere? Correct. Greetings commissioners.
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I may be from hunterdon county, not somerset county, but as an alumni of rzc,
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somerset holds a very special place to me. Both as a twin neighbor of hunterdon,
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and from my many friends and connections I made from people who are in somerset.
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now, there is the threat looming over both of our counties. The threat I'm referring to is ice,
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the modern gestapo that is terrorizing communities around the country,
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including right here in new jersey. Hunterdon in somerset have not been spared.
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there have been raids in flemington, raids in bridge water, and this rogue agency.
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when the citizens of hunterdon county decided to speak up to our county government about it,
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they politely told us to go take a hike. I'm asking you to be different.
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when there were problems in these, we could come to the somerset board,
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and you guys had more reasonable reactions and were more willing to listen to us.
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as your neighbor, I'm like to implore you to do what hunterdon did not.
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please side with the oppressed rather than the oppressor.
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support the immigrant trust act. Do not give an inch to ice and this administration's matched goons.
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it may seem like a small thing. To be honest, in the grand scheme of things, it is.
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but in times like these, when our democracy is being trampled, when fascism is rearing its head,
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we have to choose what we're going to do. Are we going to sit back and watch?
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are we going to help tyranny along? Or will we resist? Will we be those who stood up against it? Thank you.
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please support the immigrant trust act. You all have a good evening. [applause]
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>> matthew mench, 1303 roger avenue. Despite my temptations, I'm going to stay on the topic
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I was originally here to talk about, as opposed to responding to some of the other comments that we just heard.
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I'm here to talk about two items on your agenda. The first one is there was a resolution
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that was passed tonight to award prescal services contract, mills shawning for the architecture of the washington valley park interpretive center.
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I understand that there's been a recent early concept plan of what that will look like.
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I'd asked all of you, as well as staff you direct, to please make sure that we stay in contact on this project,
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so that way as it moves forward. Even in the design phase on it,
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you solicited input from bridgewater or either way, we'll give it to you one way or the other anyway.
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but I think that in order to avoid, at least make sure that everyone's on the same page with what is being proposed,
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the earlier the input we can get, not just on, hey, here's our final plan, but hey, bridgewater.
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this is what we're thinking. Is there a problems, questions, comments?
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maybe that way, we're not back here next year, when the site that center starts getting built,
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and we have questions on it. The other thing, I couldn't help but note,
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but I did appreciate the resolution that was added tonight to add services for the park commission for public relations.
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I think that's a great idea, a well-deserved timing on that.
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I thank you all for your time this evening and have a nice night. >> thank you.
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>> hi. David reyes, 797 belmill blenburg road.
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I just want to know why the trump administration has taken
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away food stamp benefits for people that deserve food stamps.
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I deal with a lot of those people in my work.
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people should not go without food stamps, especially the homeless people starving out there.
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he's taken away food stamps, and all of our benefits are getting taken away.
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what's next? Medicaid medicare? I'm just tired.
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he is the worst president around.
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I just want everybody to vote with their conscience on november 4th and state your conscience.
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thank you. [applause]
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>> john flores, 389 william street, here in somerville.
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I'm usually singing karaoke in front of a mike, but it's been a long night, so I won't trouble you.
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>> go a head. [laughter]. >> don't tempt me. Decent,
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hardworking people are being pulled off the streets by unmasked,
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unidentified federal agents, here in new jersey, here in somerset county.
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there is very little transparency about who they are targeting,
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and many of the people apprehended by ice appear to be falling into a legal black hole.
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nearly all of the people apprehended are like me, people of color.
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there are reports that some are like me, even us citizens. I'm afraid.
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I'm afraid for my nieces and nephews and my great nieces and great nephews.
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I'm afraid for my family. I'm afraid for my friends. I'm afraid that someone that I know,
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someone that I love, is going to be taken and that they won't receive due process.
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I've been eating new jersey pizza and bagels for 50 plus years.
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my friends on the west coast make fun of my new jersey accent.
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coffee. I'm afraid. Nobody here can guarantee me that I won't be taken and cast into that legal black hole.
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that's the truth. I never thought that I'd have to ask
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local government to protect me from the actions of the federal government. But here we are.
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I'm asking you to protect me and my family and friends from
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the massed anonymous agents of the federal government who are acting without accountability.
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support the immigrant trust act. Join the other municipalities and counties that have already done so,
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and let the communities of color of somerset county know that you have their back.
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support the immigrant trust act. Thank you. [applause]
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>> hello. Good evening. It's a long evening. My name is cynthia snacropi pilbozian,
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548 millstone river road, belmeade.
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I'm here to talk about the causeway.
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otherwise, known to me as the floodway.
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tonight, we talked a lot about flooding, trees.
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oh, I think, overdevelopment.
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in light of expediency, I'd like to read to you the op ed that montgomery news was so gracious to publish.
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with a little help from the editor, here goes. The following are my conclusions and suggestions
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for somerset county officials to consider as they move forward following the submar public hearing
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of the griggstown causeway concept development. Their least expensive option to install three traffic lights does
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not address the traffic congestion due to increased housing developments in our area.
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it does not address flooding, which is happening more often,
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and it does little to assure the safety of dnr state park enthusiasts who canoe,
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kayak, run, walk, bike, and fish along the causeway intersection.
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solution. A new two-lane bridge,
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similar to blackwell's mills, should be built north of the existing bridge from
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millstone river road in montgomery to mosha road in franklin township.
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by doing so, the problem of bridge closure due to flooding would be resolved,
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as traffic congestion on route 206 and other roads due to commuter diversion.
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what happens is when the bridge is closed, there are choke points that develop in other roads in the region. Not good.
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by looking at a concept that would provide a two-lane bridge,
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in an area of land that is already being used for municipal land use,
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the franklin township sewer authority, perhaps the dep may be more amenable to considering issuing permits for the land use.
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the bridge would then intersect with millstone river road
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and would be less intrusive for the residents in that area. By putting a stoplight down at the bridge,
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you think that you're creating a safety mechanism,
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but you're really increasing commuter frustration,
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which is the safety risk.
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let me continue. I hear about cost.
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an easy pass toll could be installed midway section of the new mosha road bridge to help pay for its construction.
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developers in the region must be held responsible for the added traffic congestion caused by the new residential buildings and new businesses,
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malls that are being built on route 206 corridor in hillsborough and montgomery,
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on harrison street and princeton, somerville, along route 1,
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and the list goes on. It's almost dead central new jersey,
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and it is a main artery for commuters and travelers.
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a lot of people travel. Commuters from these new developments pass through montgomery,
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franklin township, and regularly get to work, shop, and more.
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also, donations to the dnr, preservation fund specific to the project to
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preserve the historic relevance of the existing bridge, make the current causeway one-way from west to east.
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it provides an alternate route for commuters. They can use the two-way bridge.
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they can also use the one-way from west to east. It also allows for tourists and hiking enthusiasts.
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I used to run on the tow path. I used to run from the bottom of my driveway across the street.
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I don't do that anymore.it is not safe. People will use me for target practice.
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within the past week, I've had to near misses from frustrated drivers.
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I crossed the bridge. I was well more than halfway over the bridge,
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and I was confronted with an angry driver that nearly hit on me.
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I was forced to back out onto river road. That man was not going anywhere,
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and so I conceded. Thank you for taking my call today.
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the traffic signals are addressing the two times of the day that congestion is really bad.
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congestion is becoming worse on weekends. I weed in my backyard.
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I hear the horn honking, I hear people yelling and screaming. It's less intrusive to the neighborhood if you would consider this two-lane bridge.
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it would also give emts better response times in being able to transfer people to their hospitals of choice.
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if someone wanted to go to robert wood in new brunswick, they'd have to go all the way down to route 206,
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all the way around, or come up in teran, and go all the way around. There are many reasons why the two-lane bridge would
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be a better fit for the needs that you're addressing.
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yes.
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I mentioned easy pass. Easy pass is being used on many small roads and byways.
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when I travel, I frequently have to pay a little $25 toll, $0.85 toll.
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that may be a consideration. The canal and ida had bridge tenders and toll booths to assure the safe flow of barges.
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to cover the costs of those employees that collected the tolls, it seems that we're facing the same considerations as we
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move forward in our modern-day traffic safety needs. I implore the county officials to reconsider the possible options to enhance
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traffic flow and to alleviate congestion at choke points caused by flooding,
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and complete the project in a meaningful and lasting manner that will last more generations to come.
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if you can get this project done, this would be an awesome legacy to leave.
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thank you so much for listening. I agree, government works when government works,
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as long as you work within the constraints of rule. I appreciate that. Thank you for listening.
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>> hi. My name is katarina rose, k-a-t-a-r-I-n-a.
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I live at three gateway boulevard in hillsborough. I'm also here to request that you guys support the immigrant trust act,
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and also to do whatever we can to help our neighbors.
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it is so big, and the immigrant trust act should just be the beginning. Thank you.
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also, this is not necessarily to the commission, but to everybody who's listening at home and here to please vote,
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to have everyone you know vote, and please vote with your conscience.
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thank you. [applause]
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>> any phone calls, emails? >> I do have one phone call, believe it or not.
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sir. Hello. Yes. You need to state your name and address for the record, sir.
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>> sure. My name is carlos mendoza. I live at 23 mercury street, somerset, new jersey.
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I'm calling tonight because I'm concerned that you, the commissioners,
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are unaware about critical internal issues since the administrator has personally instructed employees not to talk with you directly.
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dafing and morale have plummeted since 2020 due to ineffective.
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>> sir, I just stopped for a second.
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personnel matters are not subject really appropriate for public discussion.
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if you want to talk in general, that's fine. But talking about a specific employee, I'm not going to allow.
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>> did you hang up? >> yeah.
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just for the record, employees have rights, regardless of who they are,
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whatever level they're at. Personnel matters are not for open discussion without proper notice.
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there's a case that governs that. General conversation about a department or a function of government,
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perfectly permitted. No other comments.
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>> seeing none, hearing none, is there a motion to close the public?
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>> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> ayes have it.