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This meeting's called to order in
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accordance with the open public meetings
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law in accordance with chapter 231 of
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the public laws of 1975.
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Adequate notice of this meeting has been
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provided. This meeting of August 3rd,
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2026 was provided to the Courier News
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and Star-Ledger and placed on the
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bureau's website. Also placed on the
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bulletin board of Borough Hall. A copy
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of this notice is available to the
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public and a copy of the statement shall
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be included in the minutes of this
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meeting.
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Mayor Brian Gallagher.
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>> Here.
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>> Council members, Teresa Bonner is
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excused this evening. Andrew Conti.
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>> Here.
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>> Glenn Dene.
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>> Here.
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>> Randy Pitts.
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>> Here.
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>> Gina Strabic.
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>> Here.
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>> Roger Vern.
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>> Here.
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>> Please stand for the salute to the flag.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» Okay, we have no uh departmental reports
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or notices.
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Uh however, we do have a These are
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always good nights. We have resolution
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number 260803-233
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approving the hiring of Eric A. Melendez
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as police officer effective August 4th,
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2026.
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Do we have a motion?
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>> So moved.
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>> Second.
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>> Discussion. Roll call, please.
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>> Council members, Andrew Cotti.
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>> Yes.
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>> Glenn Denney.
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>> Yes.
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>> Randy Pitts.
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>> Yes.
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>> Gina Slavik.
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>> Yes.
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>> Roger Berm.
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>> Yes.
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>> All right.
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Uh, Mr. Melendez,
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come up come on down.
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Oh, you know what? You know what? If
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mom's here, we're going to hold If she's
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not here, we're going to hold off a few
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minutes. Absolutely.
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Mom's got to be here.
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All right. So, we're going to defer
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that. That's All right. Not a problem.
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at all.
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Yeah.
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>> [laughter]
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» No, for now.
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Mom holds the gavel. That's
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All right. Let's go into committee
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reports then, Andrew.
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>> Uh, historic advisory committee hasn't
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met yet this month, but we look forward
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to discussing
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few items at the end of the month and
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specifically uh, potential for our
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artifacts and museum items to be more on
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display at
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in the town and also continue mapping
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out the historic places [clears throat]
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in town and putting them on our map that
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we actually have up. So, if anybody's
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interested in looking at historic sites
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in town, you can check out the historic
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advisory commission's website. We have a map, a Google Map that'll take
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you everywhere you want to go.
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>> Great. Thank you. Gina.
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>> Uh, September 27th, the Board of Health
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will be at the farmers market doing some
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Board of Health stuff. So, um, that was
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a great partnership and a great
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opportunity for the Board of Health to
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work with the community. Uh, the rescue
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squad continues their good work. I do
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not have a full report, um, but know
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that they are there for you.
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>> All right. Uh, Glenn.
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>> All right. Thank you. Uh, the fire
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department responded to 74 service calls
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in the month of July, so they've
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continued their busy streak for this
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year.
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And then the Environmental Commission
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met on July 14th.
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Uh, two new pet waste stations were
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installed along the Greenway, and that
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was with a partnership with the New
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Jersey Water Supply Authority and their
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water ambassadors program, and a little
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bit of help from our DPW, so we thank
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them.
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On September 9th, a member of our green
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team, David Voron, will host a talk on
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how to fight high energy bills.
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And then finally, uh,
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volunteering days are coming really
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soon. There's a number of them, so you
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can check out some details on our social
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media or website. For but we will be
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continuing our work on the Peters Brook
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habitat restoration project. Uh, the
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dates right now are August 22nd,
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September 16th, September 27th, and
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October 1st. So, hopefully you can come
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out during one of those days uh, to help
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us out with that. There will be more
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details and sign-ups available. Um,
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the Environmental Commission will see
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you at National Night Out tomorrow uh,
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with some energy saving tips and more at
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the tent, so come on out and see them
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and all the other great community groups
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that'll be there. And then uh, also you
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can come out on next Tuesday on uh, the
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11th of August for the uh, monthly
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Environmental Commission meeting at 7:00
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right here.
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>> Okay, great.
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>> Busy, busy.
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>> Excellent. Thank you.
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>> Thanks.
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>> Ready.
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>> He stole my thunder.
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>> [laughter]
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>> There's plenty to say. There's plenty of
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groups.
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>> Tomorrow is National Night Out day.
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Come out and meet
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our entire force,
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fire department, rescue squad.
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Um, this year's event features live
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performances by Elite Dance Center,
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School of Rock, Black Belt World, plus a
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dunk tank.
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Maybe the mayor.
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>> That could be. [laughter] It may be on
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the agenda.
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» Provided by Somerville Recreation. Free
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hot dogs, drinks, and snacks will be
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provided by the community partners.
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Meet your neighbors, connect with our
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local police officers,
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our
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beautiful and great police officers. We
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even have the chief here tonight. Want
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to give him a shout out.
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He's my guy.
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>> [laughter]
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>> We hope to see you there tomorrow.
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That's all I have.
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>> All right, great. Thank you. Roger. Uh
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from recreation, the Somerville YMCA
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will be offering free classes to
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Somerville residents at Michael Lep Pool
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Park, which is the one on Park Avenue,
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on August 10th, 12th, and 14th. The
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program is designed to help young
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children become more comfortable and
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confident in and around the water while
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learning essential water safety skills
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in a fun and supportive environment.
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There are two sessions for young
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children. Um they will be run at uh
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11:00 to 11:30, which is going to be
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safety around the water. It's a
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parent-and-me class for preschool-aged
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children ages 3 to 5. And then from
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11:30 to 12:00 on those days, it'll be
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safety around the water, uh children
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only, uh ages 5 years old, I guess and
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up. So, space is limited. Uh please
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register now on the Community Pass uh
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website under summer programs. And
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that's what I have.
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>> Okay.
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All right, we're going to jump and do
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ordinances for public hearing and
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adoption. Ordinance number number 2807
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is a bond ordinance providing an
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appropriation of $850,000 for the design
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and resurfacing of South Middle Street
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and Washington Place foreign by the
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Borough of Somerville in the County of
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Somerset.
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>> owners? Like, what prompted this?
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>> Uh what hap- What prompted this is it's
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the time is So, as you know, there is a
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cannabis, well, maybe you don't know,
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there's a cannabis location further um
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west on Route 22, or actually 202 206,
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we're we're making it so the cannabis
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facility that's located on 22 could
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compete hour-wise with that. So, it
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matches their time.
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Only it actually matches their time only
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Friday Saturday. They may be be
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appearing in the future to match their
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time on Sunday, but at this point this
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is a this is just
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basically Monday Monday through Saturday
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the change.
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>> So, they requested it.
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>> Uh yes, it it it came about. As you
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know, we do get
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transfer tax from that, so the revenue
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if they open early obviously the
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anticipation is the revenue would be
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um better during those morning hours.
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» Okay. Roll call.
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Council members, Andrew Conti.
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>> Yes.
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>> Glenn Zaney.
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>> Yes.
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>> Randy Pitts.
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>> Yes.
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>> Gina Stravic.
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>> Yes.
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>> Roger Vern.
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>> Yes.
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>> All right.
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Is mom here?
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Is she?
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>> Yes.
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>> All right.
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>> [laughter]
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>> All right, let's let's go back to item
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number six, which is the oath of office
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for police officer Eric A. Melendez.
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Eric, if you come forward.
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That's your cue, mom.
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» You put your left hand on the Bible.
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And you're going to raise your right
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hand and repeat after me.
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I state your name.
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>> I, Eric Melendez,
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>> do solemnly swear
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>> that I will support the Constitution of
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the United States.
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>> that I will support the Constitution of
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the United States.
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>> and the state of New Jersey.
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>> that I will bear true faith and
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allegiance to the same.
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>> that I will bear true faith and
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allegiance to the same.
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>> and to the governments established in
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the United States and in this state.
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>> And to the governments established in
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the United States and in this state.
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>> Under the authority of the people.
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>> That I will faithfully
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>> impartially
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>> and justly perform
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>> all the duties of police officer
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>> for the Borough of Somerville
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>> according to the best of my ability.
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>> So help me God.
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>> Congratulations.
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>> Thank you, sir.
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>> [applause]
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» Chief.
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>> All right, so
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Officer Melendez is already You can You
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can step back over here, okay.
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He's already a police officer. So we had
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an opening and we've had an opening for
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a while due to retirement of someone, so
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we're filling a spot.
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And we had a uh process where people
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apply and we interviewed several trained
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police officers.
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He came out number one on our process
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and after a thorough background he um
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ready to go. But having police
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experience is a giant benefit to us here
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in town.
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Um and he's got a good support group.
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He'll be hooked with a training officer
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for a while, about 3 months I guess, 2 3
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months.
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So he can learn how we do things our way
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here and uh
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that's it, he's ready to go. And
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we were told that he has a very uh
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tight, close family and that's obvious
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by the amount of people that are here.
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Uh do want to thank you guys, thank the
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council for doing this and working with
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us. We always have a good working
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relationship and we have to keep that
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going too. But, thank you guys.
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>> Chief, thank you.
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>> Thank you, Chief.
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>> So, just a just a couple of comments. Um
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I always love these days. Um I think
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it's wonderful.
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Um it's a another officer joining the
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ranks of our community. And when you
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look around you and you see this
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uh these lines of blue, um these are the
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folks that the men and women who keep
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our community what it is. We live in a
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very special community. We have very
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engaged citizens. Um and uh and and it's
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wonderful. So, remember this day cuz
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it's a good day, it's a happy day.
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They're not all good and happy, uh but
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think back to you know, this day when
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you're having that tough day. And uh
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make sure you wave
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to the citizens
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and go after the bad guys with a
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vengeance.
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All right? So, thank you and
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congratulations. Thank you.
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Uh Chief, I know you've got a couple of
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other things you uh you'd like to do.
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>> Yeah, we have some awards we'd like to
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give out to some of the folks here and
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we'll start with I got Lieutenant
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DePalma is going to come up. Do you have
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the
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awards?
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Um what I'd like to do first is uh the
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Chief's Achievement Award and I'm going
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to actually Usually you you guys have
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known me a long time. I don't read
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anything in general. We just talk.
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But, Lieutenant DePalma put some nice
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fancy stuff together. So, I'm going to
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try to stay on
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course here.
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Anyway,
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uh Officer Spadaia, could you come down,
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please?
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So, Officer Spadaia and Detective
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Fullmore, Detective Fullmore is not here
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tonight.
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But, uh we want to give him the Chief's
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Award
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what Lieutenant DePalma came up with was
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being awarded for an outstanding act of
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achievement. Moving into the new
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building
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would not be possible without the
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dedication, professionalism, and
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unwavering commitment of officers today
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and Detective Fullmer, which you guys
[13:31]
know this is true. Big lift.
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On behalf of the entire department,
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thank you for your countless hours, your
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commitment to excellence excellence, and
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your steadfast dedication to the
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organization. Your work has left a
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permanent mark on the department and
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every person who walks through the doors
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of the building.
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Yeah, you could tell that I didn't write
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this.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Really nice.
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Congratulations.
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Um it's my honor to award this to you.
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So, the lieutenant's going to give this
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to you. Thank you. And good job.
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>> [applause]
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» ON TOP OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN,
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THE AMOUNT OF WORK, EFFORT, and
[14:10]
problem-solving that went into getting
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us in there was
[14:14]
difficult and amazing. And I'll let it
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go with that.
[14:16]
>> Can Can I just say you didn't mention
[14:17]
the headaches with this guy?
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>> Yes.
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>> [laughter]
[14:20]
>> He's my headache.
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>> Trying to keep him out of it.
[14:25]
All right. Then, if we could have
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Officer Kelleher and Officer Shahak come
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up.
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So, these two are getting the Medal of
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Valor.
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And what I'm going to do is I am going
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to read this because it really does lay
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it out pretty nicely as to what
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happened. So, um
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August 15th of last year,
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at about
[14:49]
3:45 in the afternoon,
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Manville PD was searching for a male
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suspected of being in possession of a
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firearm.
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Possibly fleeing by the train.
[15:00]
Surrounding agencies were advised to
[15:01]
check the train station, which we have a
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train station, and these guys went and
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did that.
[15:06]
Officer Kelleher responded along with
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members from the prosecutor's office.
[15:10]
Upon checking the platform, the actor
[15:11]
was actually located. And if any of this
[15:13]
is off, you can correct me, but blame
[15:15]
him.
[15:16]
Um the actor became immediately agitated
[15:19]
and argumentative with the officers on
[15:20]
scene. The actor then tried to walk away
[15:22]
and began reaching into his waistband
[15:25]
towards what the officers believed to be
[15:27]
was a firearm. And and every police
[15:29]
officer here knows and you guys probably
[15:30]
do, too. I mean, the thing that gets you
[15:32]
hurt is your hands. You got to watch
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your hands. So, when he's
[15:35]
sticking his hand somewhere,
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makes you nervous.
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The actor started shout- a physical
[15:41]
confrontation ensued. Officer Shahad
[15:43]
arrived on scene as well.
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The actor started shouting, "Kill me.
[15:47]
Shoot me. I'm not going back." Also,
[15:49]
during the length of time trying to take
[15:50]
control of his hands, he was refusing to
[15:52]
remove his left hand from holding the
[15:54]
handle of the firearm.
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The actor was then handcuffed and
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secured as more officers arrived on
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scene and the weapon was secured.
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Officer Callaher hurt her hand.
[16:03]
Um
[16:06]
As I'm reading this, I think I'm not
[16:07]
supposed to talk about injuries, but you
[16:09]
broke your finger.
[16:10]
Um and the actor actually spit on
[16:12]
Officer Shahad
[16:14]
in the face and mouth. Officers Callaher
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and and Officer Shahad, Somerset Police
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Department would like to recognize both
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of you for your acts of extraordinary
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heroism
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that were displayed during your actions
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on that day.
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While responding to a subject with a
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firearm, your immediate actions
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displayed that day are an example of how
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you're willing to place the welfare of
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others above yourselves.
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This exemplifies the essence of the
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Valor Award. Congratulations on the
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award.
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>> [applause]
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» And I was up there, too. I watched what
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was going on. They had him on the ground
[16:51]
by the time I got there. And the guy was
[16:54]
very, very violent and
[16:56]
it was not a good situation. They were
[16:58]
also honored by the 200 Club of Somerset
[17:01]
County for their actions. So,
[17:03]
congratulations.
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» [applause]
[17:12]
» Okay, uh Officer Black, come on up here,
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please.
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And this is a good one. This is a real
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good one, too.
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He's also getting the Medal of Valor.
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So, again, I'm going to read it cuz I
[17:27]
think he did a good job.
[17:30]
September 6th of 2025
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at
[17:35]
2:17 in the morning, so you know there's
[17:37]
a little different environment going on,
[17:38]
right?
[17:40]
While investigating an unrelated
[17:41]
incident, a report from dispatch came in
[17:43]
that a male was on a street in town
[17:46]
uh with a gun threatening people.
[17:49]
Upon arrival, Officer Black confronted
[17:51]
the subject who was in the area and gave
[17:53]
him the clear verbal commands not to
[17:55]
move. He assumed it was the person that
[17:57]
he was sent there to deal with that had
[17:59]
a gun.
[18:01]
At that point, the actor then started
[18:02]
running and ran away from Officer Black who started running after him
[18:07]
and caught him.
[18:08]
Officer Black immediately, without any
[18:10]
hesitation, chased the subject for
[18:11]
approximately 30 yd and was able to stop
[18:13]
him and place him under arrest.
[18:16]
The actor was in possession of a loaded
[18:17]
magazine and ammo in his pocket. In
[18:19]
addition, a firearm was also found near
[18:21]
where the actor was arrested indicating
[18:23]
that he had the gun on him and when he
[18:24]
tackled him it came out of his pocket or
[18:27]
whatever. Is that pretty much accurate?
[18:29]
Okay.
[18:30]
Um
[18:32]
the Saugus Police Department like to
[18:33]
recognize you for your act of
[18:34]
extraordinary heroism that was displayed
[18:36]
during this altercation. Uh the
[18:38]
professionalism, confidence, and quick
[18:40]
action that was displayed that night
[18:41]
while responding gave to someone who had
[18:43]
a gun even though the result was imminent
[18:46]
personal hazard to yourself was a
[18:48]
selfless act of bravery.
[18:50]
Due to these actions, you will be
[18:52]
receiving a Medal of Valor.
[18:53]
Congratulations.
[18:55]
>> [applause]
[19:04]
» May have 2:15 in the morning you get a
[19:05]
report of a guy he's out there at the
[19:07]
Pine by himself. He takes off, goes
[19:09]
after him, gets him, got guns.
[19:10]
>> Yeah.
[19:13]
I thank you guys for allowing this
[19:14]
tonight and participating with us. Thank
[19:17]
you very much.
[19:18]
>> Chief, thank you. Um,
[19:20]
thank you. Thank all of your officers,
[19:22]
those that are here and those that that
[19:23]
are that are not here.
[19:26]
Um,
[19:27]
you know, I just find it fascinating.
[19:28]
So, more and more
[19:30]
our police officers are called on to to
[19:32]
do different things. Uh, everything from
[19:35]
what you heard about tonight to um,
[19:39]
marriage counselors, psychologists,
[19:41]
psychiatrists, um, you name it, across
[19:44]
the board. Uh, and it's not an easy job.
[19:47]
It's it's a passion that our officers
[19:50]
have and and we have a difference. I
[19:52]
think we have an extremely well-trained
[19:55]
force
[19:56]
um, led by an administrative team that
[19:59]
is uh, second to none. I I'll put our
[20:02]
officers up against any officers in the
[20:03]
county. I think they're top-notch.
[20:06]
Um, they're always out there. Um,
[20:08]
they're always waving, at least they're
[20:09]
waving at me.
[20:10]
Uh, that or they're telling me get out
[20:12]
of the way. I don't know.
[20:13]
>> [laughter]
[20:13]
>> Um, but I want to thank every one of you
[20:16]
for what you do every single day because
[20:18]
it's it's not just the the um,
[20:20]
these items that you heard about today.
[20:22]
It's the everyday. And uh, um,
[20:26]
it's it's not easy. It's a challenge.
[20:28]
It's a challenging job. You do it well.
[20:30]
You keep our community safe.
[20:33]
Thank you. God bless all of you. Thank
[20:35]
you.
[20:35]
>> [applause]
[20:39]
» All right, you can go.
[20:43]
And family, you can go, too.
[21:11]
» All right, we'll continue on. Um, before
[21:13]
we get to to the meeting
[21:15]
open to the public for public comment
[21:17]
cuz I know there will be public comment
[21:19]
on the library issue.
[21:21]
Um, I just kind of want to cycle back a
[21:23]
little bit and and talk a little bit
[21:26]
about that because it's become a strong issue
[21:30]
for our entire community.
[21:33]
And and I think everybody's goal is
[21:35]
exactly the same. Um, it's that we want
[21:38]
to have a premier, a good, fantastic
[21:42]
library in our community.
[21:45]
And I also believe that the long-term
[21:49]
goal of
[21:51]
trying to build something bigger and
[21:54]
better
[21:55]
is also good.
[21:56]
And I think I share the same sentiment
[21:59]
of council
[22:00]
that that we'd like to see that.
[22:03]
The challenge is we have this goal
[22:05]
that's out here.
[22:07]
And we have now, which is over here.
[22:11]
And
[22:12]
obviously recently
[22:14]
the Somerset County County Library
[22:16]
Commission has taken steps to
[22:18]
um
[22:20]
close the Somerville branch.
[22:23]
Um
[22:24]
citing a number of issues,
[22:26]
one of which was mold issues.
[22:30]
Uh, health concerns of their employees.
[22:33]
We take that very seriously. Um, once
[22:36]
that was made
[22:38]
I ordered the testing of the area
[22:40]
immediately.
[22:41]
And I'm going to back up a second
[22:43]
because there was mold testing and
[22:45]
remediation done
[22:47]
about a year ago. And that was in the
[22:49]
downstairs level,
[22:50]
the basement level of the uh
[22:53]
the library.
[22:55]
Remediated, brought back to
[22:58]
standard.
[23:00]
Fast forward to this year.
[23:02]
Um
[23:02]
we received a letter and it said we were
[23:05]
closing citing those concerns.
[23:08]
Again, so testing was ordered
[23:10]
immediately.
[23:12]
When
[23:13]
the initial testing came back for the
[23:15]
upstairs,
[23:16]
that testing showed no elevated mold.
[23:20]
The area was okay.
[23:22]
I had ordered immediate testing of the
[23:25]
downstairs again just to ensure
[23:28]
that that the remediation we did last
[23:30]
year
[23:31]
held.
[23:33]
And that has come back now.
[23:35]
And that also shows no elevation of
[23:37]
mold.
[23:39]
So, that presents a challenge.
[23:42]
It doesn't negate, you know, the the
[23:44]
idea that somebody may feel ill.
[23:47]
So, we've taken an extra step and I've
[23:51]
ordered that we bring in an
[23:53]
environmental engineer {slash}
[23:55]
industrial hygienist
[23:57]
to do further testing
[23:59]
to ensure that the air
[24:01]
and the quality in the library both
[24:04]
upstairs and downstairs
[24:07]
is satisfactory.
[24:09]
Once that's done and they come back to
[24:11]
us with those results,
[24:14]
one of two things will happen. Either
[24:16]
the results show that there are no
[24:17]
issues
[24:19]
or they will show that there are issues.
[24:22]
They will be mitigated. And we will also
[24:24]
implement best practices that they show
[24:26]
we should.
[24:28]
Um
[24:32]
I think that's going over and above what
[24:35]
the cited reasons were for
[24:37]
closing the library.
[24:40]
And
[24:42]
I think it's a good practice for us.
[24:44]
And I would even take it a step further
[24:46]
and say that we would conduct further
[24:47]
testing as the years go on or as the
[24:50]
year goes on just to ensure. Let's
[24:52]
monitor, monitor testing.
[24:55]
Um
[24:59]
the challenge we have is that
[25:03]
while the mold issue seemed to be the
[25:06]
impetus for this,
[25:07]
other issues now have come up in that
[25:10]
the space isn't suitable.
[25:12]
The space is not big enough. Uh and
[25:15]
these are some reasons that we've been
[25:16]
given for
[25:18]
uh for the uh county to close the
[25:21]
library.
[25:23]
Um
[25:25]
I don't believe that's right.
[25:27]
Um
[25:29]
this
[25:31]
is a small branch library.
[25:35]
It doesn't mean that we can't grow.
[25:37]
But what it does mean
[25:39]
is that between the time that we grow
[25:43]
into something else and now
[25:46]
we have to maintain that service
[25:50]
to our constituents.
[25:53]
In 2010, I brought
[25:55]
our library to the county because our
[25:58]
library was not in good financial shape.
[26:02]
And the library embraced us, the county
[26:05]
system embraced us. They wanted us to be
[26:07]
a part of it.
[26:09]
And 15 years later, um I'm I'm
[26:12]
questioning some of that.
[26:14]
So, it it is a challenge.
[26:19]
I think there's an opportunity for
[26:21]
partnership there to achieve this.
[26:24]
But you can't
[26:27]
eliminate what we have in order to
[26:30]
achieve this. You know, I almost look at
[26:33]
it as if
[26:34]
we're kind of the first pin
[26:37]
in this process. You know, what what is next? I don't know the answer to
[26:42]
that. But what is next?
[26:44]
So,
[26:46]
you know, it's it's a very challenging
[26:48]
situation. And and I've been in meetings
[26:50]
and and I said part of my job is to try
[26:52]
not to get
[26:53]
try to not get people into their
[26:55]
corners.
[26:56]
Sometimes it's very difficult to do
[26:58]
because people feel that they're right.
[27:02]
And I think tonight we went into
[27:04]
corners.
[27:06]
Um
[27:07]
and I believe and I think the council
[27:09]
believes, rightfully so, at this time
[27:12]
that we did go into our corners.
[27:14]
Um our goals are the same.
[27:18]
They are the same.
[27:20]
I haven't met one person that says, I
[27:22]
don't want a library.
[27:24]
I haven't met one person who says, I
[27:26]
don't want a nicer library.
[27:30]
I firmly believe, I raised five kids in
[27:33]
this town.
[27:35]
That was my wife's salvation.
[27:38]
Three in the triple stroller, one on her
[27:39]
back, and one walking.
[27:42]
That was her salvation.
[27:46]
Now my granddaughter
[27:48]
loves to go on Saturdays to pick up my
[27:50]
paperwork
[27:51]
and hop over to the library and do
[27:53]
something cool.
[27:55]
So, you know, it's it's This is not a
[27:58]
pleasant situation and I know there's
[28:00]
people who have a lot of different
[28:01]
feelings out there.
[28:03]
Uh there's a lot of different emotions
[28:04]
out there.
[28:06]
My goal
[28:08]
our goal as a council is to ensure that
[28:10]
we have those services.
[28:12]
There's been talk about renting space
[28:15]
somewhere downtown, renting space
[28:17]
somewhere in the borough to achieve
[28:19]
those services.
[28:20]
If we have a space
[28:22]
that's clean
[28:24]
certified
[28:26]
it's okay.
[28:28]
Is it old building?
[28:30]
Yeah.
[28:31]
It is an old building.
[28:33]
But it's Somerville's building.
[28:36]
And it still serves its purpose well.
[28:40]
And if we can show that it's certified
[28:41]
clean and we can we can
[28:44]
keep that level
[28:46]
I don't see why we can't reoccupy from
[28:49]
this time
[28:51]
forward
[28:53]
to the new beginning of whatever that
[28:55]
library is.
[28:58]
One of the challenges in creating
[29:00]
something is you have to define what you
[29:03]
want.
[29:05]
Now, we all have opinions on what we
[29:07]
want, but what is the public want?
[29:09]
What is the public need?
[29:12]
We don't have that.
[29:14]
We know it's technology.
[29:16]
Kids library.
[29:17]
You know, we had floated the idea of
[29:19]
well, why don't we make
[29:21]
the the counties, the regions
[29:23]
most special children's library in our
[29:26]
space
[29:28]
and allow the other libraries,
[29:31]
Hillsborough and Bridgewater
[29:33]
to absorb the adult. I don't know
[29:35]
whether that's right or wrong,
[29:37]
but it's a concept.
[29:38]
And I think that's where you have to
[29:39]
start with these concepts. And I know
[29:41]
the commission has talked about going
[29:43]
out and doing these types of of surveys.
[29:46]
Um
[29:49]
but I think it's premature
[29:51]
to begin that process without knowing
[29:55]
what are our asks?
[29:57]
What are we doing? Where are we going?
[30:00]
So So, the bureau has committed
[30:03]
that that space
[30:05]
is going to be occupied.
[30:08]
We'll know in a week or two
[30:10]
what the results of of all of that are.
[30:13]
Um and we'll either have a timeline for
[30:17]
remediation
[30:19]
or we'll have an all clear and let's get
[30:22]
back to work.
[30:25]
Um
[30:26]
I've asked the commission if they are
[30:28]
willing to work towards
[30:31]
a um
[30:33]
a goal of reoccupying that space.
[30:37]
And it was a qualified yes if it
[30:40]
expanded.
[30:42]
Well, we're not expanding right now cuz
[30:44]
we don't know what we're expanding into.
[30:45]
The goal is to reoccupy that space.
[30:48]
>> Yeah.
[30:49]
>> But
[30:49]
ex- excuse me.
[30:50]
>> Yeah, yeah.
[30:52]
» Excuse me.
[30:55]
Ex-
[30:55]
excuse me.
[30:57]
You are out of order. You are
[31:00]
out of order.
[31:01]
You will have your 5 minutes during
[31:02]
public session.
[31:05]
That's probably only the fourth time
[31:06]
I've ever gabbled in my life. I don't
[31:08]
gabble people. So, let's have a little
[31:10]
more uh decorum
[31:12]
here.
[31:15]
So, at this point, um
[31:18]
you know, sometimes you do have to go
[31:19]
into your corners.
[31:21]
And uh what I will do is ask the council
[31:24]
for a motion
[31:26]
to authorize the attorney to begin
[31:28]
drawing up
[31:29]
uh papers
[31:31]
uh
[31:32]
to
[31:33]
ensure that the library commission
[31:36]
uh follows the terms of our agreement
[31:39]
that's been established.
[31:42]
» Regrettably, I make that motion.
[31:45]
>> Second.
[31:47]
>> Discussion.
[31:49]
Roll call.
[31:50]
>> Council members, Andrew Cauty.
[31:51]
>> Yes.
[31:52]
>> Glen Dunay.
[31:52]
>> Yes.
[31:53]
>> Randy Pitts.
[31:54]
>> Yes.
[31:54]
>> Gina Stravic.
[31:55]
>> Yes.
[31:55]
>> Roger Vroom.
[31:56]
>> Yes.
[31:57]
>> Okay.
[31:58]
All right.
[31:59]
Uh at this point, I will ask for a
[32:01]
motion to open the meeting to the
[32:03]
public.
[32:03]
>> So moved.
[32:04]
>> Second.
[32:04]
>> Discussion.
[32:06]
Roll call.
[32:06]
>> Council members, Andrew Cauty.
[32:08]
>> Yes.
[32:08]
>> Glen Dunay.
[32:09]
>> Yes.
[32:09]
>> Randy Pitts.
[32:10]
>> Yes.
[32:10]
>> Gina Stravic.
[32:11]
>> Yes.
[32:11]
>> Roger Vroom.
[32:12]
>> Yes.
[32:13]
>> Okay.
[32:14]
Public session is now open. Please state
[32:16]
your name and address for the record and
[32:17]
please address your comments to me.
[32:24]
» Peter Bromberg. My address is 121 Agnes
[32:27]
uh Place in Bound Brook. I am the
[32:28]
director of the Somerset County Library
[32:30]
System. I am not a politician. I'm a
[32:33]
librarian. It is my life's work. It has
[32:34]
been a privilege to to
[32:36]
bring library services to the people of
[32:38]
different communities across this state
[32:40]
and across this country. I was invited
[32:42]
here tonight. I say invited in quotes
[32:45]
because I was asked to what might I be
[32:47]
willing to come tonight.
[32:48]
>> could you just
[32:50]
Yeah, could you just stay in the shot?
[32:52]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I would also ask if you would just put
[32:55]
the microphone back, please.
[32:56]
>> Uh I'm going to hold the microphone.
[32:58]
>> No, I'm going to ask you to put the
[32:58]
microphone
[32:59]
>> I'm going to hold the microphone.
[33:00]
>> Peter, please just put the microphone
[33:03]
back.
[33:03]
>> W- Why?
[33:04]
>> Because it's piece of borough property.
[33:06]
Please put the microphone back.
[33:07]
>> Well, I'm not going to throw it at
[33:08]
anybody.
[33:08]
>> That I know you're not. I know you're
[33:10]
not. Please just
[33:11]
>> This is just This is just like
[33:12]
control. Like, oh, no. You're telling me
[33:14]
what to do. No. No. No. I'm going to
[33:16]
hold the microphone.
[33:17]
>> Peter, you're invited tonight. You were
[33:18]
brought into We were brought into this
[33:20]
room.
[33:21]
>> We were brought into this room with no
[33:23]
agenda. Uh I was asked to hold this this
[33:25]
night available. Uh came in. Never got a
[33:28]
confirmation. I had to confirm and say,
[33:30]
"Well, I was asked to hold this night
[33:31]
available. Is this Are we coming?" So,
[33:34]
we show up. I was asked, "Are you here
[33:36]
to talk Tell us that you're going to
[33:37]
move back into the library?" I said, "Am
[33:39]
I here to tell you? I don't even You
[33:40]
invited us here. You tell us what you
[33:42]
want to talk about." Well, the question
[33:44]
is, "Are you going to move back into
[33:45]
that library after we remediate?"
[33:48]
I said, "Well, I didn't say expand. I
[33:50]
said, if and when that space is made
[33:53]
suitable for library services, including
[33:55]
for our staff, because our staff have no
[33:57]
work space there. There's no private
[33:59]
space. They don't have a private
[34:01]
bathroom anymore to use. They were told
[34:02]
they can't flush solids. They have to
[34:04]
put waste waste paper in a waste basket
[34:06]
instead of flushing it. There's no It's
[34:08]
not suitable. We've been there for a
[34:10]
year. And so And last summer when we
[34:12]
closed and we re- the lower level and we
[34:15]
brought everything upstairs,
[34:17]
we got the all clear, right? That
[34:19]
everything was going to be fine. Well,
[34:20]
since that time,
[34:22]
staff have continued to have health
[34:24]
issues. I have I have reports here from
[34:26]
eight different staff members about
[34:27]
their health issues. That was This is
[34:29]
going back through all last summer. I'm
[34:31]
sorry. Yes. yes, I apologize. Yes, yes,
[34:33]
absolutely. Um Um, from through through
[34:35]
the through the winter, through the
[34:37]
fall, headaches, hives, persistent sore
[34:39]
throat, severe nasal drip, neurological
[34:41]
pain and symptoms, pressure headaches,
[34:42]
tracking closely with office occupancy
[34:44]
and sinus congestion.
[34:46]
I can go on and on and and I eczema,
[34:48]
headaches. This is eight different
[34:50]
people experiencing these symptoms on
[34:53]
and off depending a little bit on the
[34:54]
weather, but persistent and consistent.
[34:56]
And when they go when they leave the
[34:58]
building for 2 days, they get better.
[34:59]
When they come back, they feel worse.
[35:01]
Now, there has been so a lot of
[35:02]
misinformation, but when we made the
[35:04]
difficult decision First, we were
[35:06]
looking at this and saying we probably
[35:07]
need to to find a new a new location by
[35:10]
the end of the year or by the end of the
[35:11]
summer.
[35:12]
I communicated this with the bureau.
[35:14]
This was communicated immediately. When staff were having some some spikes
[35:19]
of issues, probably due to water and
[35:21]
humidity and weather, um, and we sat
[35:24]
down and said, "Looking at this, like
[35:26]
looking at all this in totality and
[35:27]
what's happening what's happening with our our staff health, um, can do we
[35:32]
have a high level of confidence that
[35:34]
there's a significant issue and can we
[35:36]
send them back in in in good in good
[35:38]
faith?" And me and my leadership team
[35:40]
said, "No. Our level of confidence is
[35:42]
high. It would be unethical, immoral,
[35:44]
and also take on liabilities for the
[35:46]
organization to send staff back in
[35:48]
there." As soon as that conversation was
[35:50]
had, I reached out to the bureau and I
[35:52]
communicated this. "Okay, fine." I was
[35:55]
told that commission was read in on this
[35:57]
or the council was read in on it. And
[35:59]
that there while the the timeline for a
[36:01]
July 31st closure was quick, no
[36:04]
questions, we'll talk about it at the
[36:05]
lab meeting. The lab meeting where you
[36:07]
sat here and said, "We're going to work
[36:08]
together and we're going to and I have I
[36:10]
didn't get returns from phone calls. I
[36:12]
didn't get return from from emails. I
[36:14]
said next day, I said, "Let's put out a
[36:16]
joint statement to assure everyone that
[36:17]
we're working together." No response to
[36:19]
that. And everything you said here
[36:21]
today, if we had had this conversation
[36:23]
that you're up here at the dais in that
[36:25]
room, I wanted to I want your the people
[36:28]
here to know that you have not been
[36:30]
showing [clears throat] up in good faith
[36:31]
to work. That's what I want to do. I
[36:32]
want to work in good faith, and if
[36:34]
you're willing to do that, all of you on
[36:35]
this dais, well, let's do that. We owe
[36:38]
it to them. We're on their dime. We are
[36:39]
public servants. This is my life trying
[36:42]
to get library services to people, and I
[36:43]
am so I will repeat deeply, deeply
[36:45]
disappointed in the way you you you you
[36:48]
treated us the the the the what you the
[36:51]
disconnect between what you say publicly
[36:52]
and what you say privately, the
[36:54]
disconnect between saying, "Oh, we all
[36:55]
want to work together and come up with a
[36:57]
plan." and not returning phone calls,
[36:59]
not engaging. I mean, it is it is
[37:01]
shocking to me, and I'm not naive, but
[37:03]
it's certainly disappointing. It is so
[37:05]
disappointing. I am here our our
[37:07]
commission chair is here. We are ready
[37:09]
to work hand in glove to come up with
[37:11]
solutions. Do we need a temporary
[37:13]
solution between now and when we have
[37:14]
built some grand building 3, 5, 7 years?
[37:16]
I don't know when it'll be. Yeah, we
[37:18]
need a temporary solution, but a
[37:19]
temporary solution that is not making
[37:21]
people sick, not making people sick day
[37:25]
after day. That's all we're asking for,
[37:27]
and we will pay the bill. We will find a
[37:29]
place, and we will pay the bill, and in
[37:31]
the meantime, we will continue to do
[37:32]
programming with through through partner
[37:35]
locations, which we've been doing all
[37:36]
year. We'll continue to do story times
[37:38]
and book clubs and outreach.
[37:41]
And and your and residents of Somerville
[37:43]
will continue to check out materials at
[37:45]
other locations.
[37:47]
You Over the last 180 days, more people
[37:49]
are checking out materials in
[37:50]
Bridgewater by by two to one than
[37:53]
they're checking out here.
[37:55]
So, you're already you you because
[37:56]
you're part of a large county
[37:57]
multi-branch system, residents have
[37:59]
options to go to other locations for
[38:01]
robust collections of programming and
[38:03]
services and spaces to study. That's the
[38:05]
benefit of being in the system. Now, if
[38:07]
you all decide that you want to pull out
[38:09]
of the system cuz it might take us a
[38:11]
couple months to find a temporary
[38:12]
location, that's your decision, and you
[38:14]
can hold your people behind me can
[38:16]
decide whether you want to hold these
[38:17]
people accountable or not.
[38:19]
>> You're just about out of time.
[38:20]
>> Okay, but I what I'm asking for is
[38:22]
honesty, what I'm asking for is
[38:24]
consistency and congruency between what
[38:26]
you say to them publicly and how you
[38:28]
behave when you leave the dais.
[38:31]
And let's work on their behalf. Let's
[38:32]
work together on their behalf. It is our
[38:35]
responsibility to do that.
[38:37]
>> You're about done.
[38:38]
>> I am done.
[38:39]
>> Thank you.
[38:39]
for your time.
[38:40]
>> Thank you for your comments, sir.
[38:41]
>> I apologize earlier for my for my
[38:43]
passionate comment.
[38:46]
>> Thank you.
[38:46]
>> Yeah.
[38:51]
» Any other public comment?
[39:01]
» I want to grab the microphone.
[39:05]
» Thank you.
[39:06]
>> You're welcome.
[39:09]
Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um I am
[39:11]
Jonathan Lee
[39:12]
from the Borough of Rocky Hill, 10 Toth
[39:15]
Lane, Rocky Hill.
[39:18]
I am also a councilman in the Borough of
[39:20]
Rocky Hill and chair of the library
[39:22]
committee.
[39:25]
Um it seems very suspicious
[39:29]
that you have a mold problem in your
[39:31]
library.
[39:33]
We've gone through a tremendously
[39:36]
difficult problem regarding our library
[39:38]
and has nothing to do with mold. It
[39:40]
[clears throat] has to do with the fact
[39:42]
that um
[39:44]
the Somerset County Library System
[39:46]
decided to no longer support our
[39:48]
library. Um we were the first branch of
[39:52]
the Somerset County Library System.
[39:55]
Um we had an we had an unique situation
[39:58]
because
[39:59]
um
[40:00]
we were the um beneficiaries of an
[40:04]
endowment provided by a lawyer from Philadelphia to honor his
[40:09]
wife. His name was Harold Jacobs.
[40:13]
And his wife's name was Mary. They are
[40:15]
both um
[40:18]
buried in
[40:19]
Rocky Hill Cemetery.
[40:24]
Because it was a public-private
[40:28]
uh agreement, um
[40:30]
Somerset County Library System became
[40:32]
uncomfortable with it over the years.
[40:35]
Um eventually, um Montgomery created a
[40:39]
new um town hall and they established a
[40:43]
branch of the Somerset County Library
[40:44]
System in their town. Previously, the
[40:48]
citizens of Montgomery had shared our
[40:50]
library
[40:51]
for uh approximately 50 years.
[40:56]
There was a short-term agreement where
[40:58]
we continued to run our library uh with
[41:01]
their support.
[41:03]
Um and then uh there was um
[41:06]
a period when we were supposed to
[41:08]
determine what the future of the library
[41:10]
is.
[41:11]
Um they uh were not too conducive to
[41:16]
doing that. Um they said that they were
[41:18]
running out of money and they told us
[41:20]
they were going to close down.
[41:22]
Um so, instead of closing down, I
[41:25]
believe it was um
[41:28]
in um May of 2024,
[41:31]
they closed down the previous August
[41:34]
because they said they had a mold issue.
[41:39]
Now,
[41:40]
tests were run
[41:42]
and I will tell you now that the mold
[41:45]
inside the building was lower than that
[41:48]
which was outside in the ambient air,
[41:50]
which is the control.
[41:52]
Um
[41:54]
so, this seems somewhat
[41:56]
like a modus operandi to me.
[42:00]
Um I would
[42:02]
tend to
[42:03]
um
[42:04]
fight for your library.
[42:06]
We spent 3 years uh
[42:09]
eventually
[42:11]
the foundation that ran the endowment
[42:14]
that was given for our library
[42:16]
decided they no longer wanted to
[42:18]
run a library.
[42:20]
And um
[42:22]
we went into a lawsuit with them. It
[42:24]
took us 3 years and hundreds of
[42:27]
thousands of dollars,
[42:29]
but we won that lawsuit.
[42:32]
There is now a new
[42:34]
Board of Trustees being constituted and
[42:38]
the town is now getting control of the
[42:41]
building so that we don't have an issue
[42:43]
again.
[42:45]
Um we will probably I don't know what
[42:47]
the future brings as far as what kind of
[42:50]
library it will be, whether we join the
[42:52]
Summers County Library System. They
[42:54]
apparently are not interested in joining
[42:56]
us or us joining them, even though we
[42:58]
were the first branch.
[43:01]
Um
[43:02]
but um
[43:05]
we will have a library.
[43:07]
We have a significant endowment.
[43:09]
Um I could get into details about some
[43:12]
of their underhanded dealings during
[43:14]
that
[43:15]
um
[43:16]
lawsuit where they became an amicus
[43:18]
curiae
[43:20]
and basically presented facts
[43:23]
that
[43:24]
didn't hold water as far as I'm
[43:26]
concerned, trying to prove that we could
[43:28]
not financially run a library.
[43:30]
We proved otherwise. We won the lawsuit.
[43:33]
Um
[43:34]
suspiciously
[43:37]
they were um third in line to receive
[43:39]
the assets if
[43:42]
the endowment failed, if the borough
[43:45]
couldn't
[43:46]
run the library. So,
[43:49]
my question is
[43:51]
who are we dealing with here?
[43:54]
Um so I figured I would come tonight. I
[43:56]
just read an article today
[43:57]
>> About 30 seconds.
[43:58]
>> today about this and I thought it would
[44:01]
be
[44:02]
good for you folks to hear some of the
[44:04]
background that we've been dealing with.
[44:06]
>> We appreciate your comments. Thank you,
[44:08]
sir.
[44:08]
>> Thank you.
[44:10]
Any other public comments, sir?
[44:11]
>> Is this just on library or
[44:13]
>> No, anything.
[44:14]
>> Okay, good.
[44:17]
My name is Daniel Pontonio. I live on
[44:19]
101 Eastern Ave, Somerville.
[44:22]
Um
[44:22]
first thing about the library, I'm
[44:23]
curious, is there a county library,
[44:25]
Somerset County Library?
[44:26]
>> Yeah, it's not a Q&A, but yes, there is.
[44:29]
It's a whole system. There's a number of
[44:30]
different libraries.
[44:31]
>> know that. Just curious.
[44:32]
>> It's a comment period.
[44:32]
>> Okay. So,
[44:34]
the reason I'm here today is we were in
[44:37]
the process of buying a home on 69
[44:39]
Fairmont Ave, which is right down the
[44:41]
street from you.
[44:42]
When we went through this process, what
[44:44]
we found out through the inspections is
[44:46]
that this particular house had a chimney
[44:49]
that had about $30,000 worth of damage.
[44:52]
So, my whole thinking was, coming from
[44:55]
where I came from, Voorhees, New Jersey,
[44:57]
in South Jersey, down there, when you go
[45:00]
through inspections, the township is
[45:01]
required to do a CO, and they do not let
[45:04]
you in that house if you're missing
[45:05]
sidewalk, if you're missing if you have
[45:07]
a crack in your fireplace, any kind of
[45:10]
damage you have in that fireplace, they
[45:11]
will not let you move in because it's a
[45:13]
hazard.
[45:14]
What I found out when I called the
[45:16]
township here, cuz it was an argument
[45:18]
with this guy,
[45:19]
that the township doesn't care about a
[45:21]
CO, that you don't need a CO to move
[45:23]
into an older house, and all they care
[45:25]
about is carbon monoxide and smoke
[45:27]
detectors.
[45:29]
Now, with that said, this town, if you
[45:31]
take out the new town homes and the
[45:33]
condos, homes are about
[45:36]
roughly about 80 years old in this town.
[45:39]
You did a great job at refurbishing this
[45:41]
town. Like, I'm not from here. I love
[45:43]
this downtown,
[45:45]
right? And I live down the street, and I
[45:47]
watched the house, and I watched the
[45:50]
firemen, and I watched the the police
[45:53]
run into a house where a girl died.
[45:56]
And that hit home.
[45:59]
I'm urging you to change your laws. You
[46:02]
need to have a CO. You need to inspect
[46:05]
fireplaces. The guy that owns that
[46:07]
house, what did he do to fix it? He
[46:09]
tried to sue me for my 80 grand down
[46:11]
deposit. What he did to fix it is he
[46:14]
brought in a guy to paint the chimney
[46:16]
and he's back selling it again. And God
[46:18]
forbid if somebody buys that house, I do
[46:20]
plan on giving my level two inspection
[46:22]
to whoever buys that house because
[46:24]
there's multiple hazards, there's
[46:26]
multiple conditions, there's cracks in
[46:28]
it. You burn a fire in there, there's no
[46:30]
vents, carbon monoxide will leak
[46:33]
throughout the house and God forbid if
[46:35]
there's kids in that house, those kids
[46:36]
will die. Or they will get ill.
[46:39]
So, my urgent to you, change the laws in
[46:42]
the town. I don't care if you have to
[46:44]
whoever buys the house, they have to pay
[46:45]
$150 fee. You're already paying $650 for
[46:48]
a home inspection.
[46:50]
Pay a fee.
[46:51]
Pay it to the township to come in there.
[46:54]
You need a CO to get into this house.
[46:56]
You need a CO, you need to have full
[46:58]
inspection, fireplace, and you can't
[47:01]
have sidewalks missing like this guy was
[47:02]
going to sell me.
[47:04]
Not until I backed out that he finally
[47:05]
go in there and replace the sidewalks. I
[47:08]
just I'm a firm believer that, you know,
[47:09]
safety is first. And this town, I I've
[47:12]
only been here 5 or 6 years. My future
[47:15]
in-laws have lived here their Well, they
[47:17]
lived here their whole lives until they
[47:18]
moved to Branchburg. Branch- Branchburg.
[47:20]
I love this town.
[47:22]
And that's why we're looking to move
[47:23]
back into this town. So, I just urge you
[47:25]
to really take a look at the laws.
[47:28]
>> Thank you. If If you stay for the
[47:30]
meeting, I just ask you to get your name
[47:31]
and telephone number to Mr. Sluka.
[47:33]
>> Sure.
[47:33]
>> And we'll make a connection.
[47:35]
>> Sure. Thank you.
[47:35]
>> Thank you.
[47:38]
Any other public comment?
[47:46]
» Thank you, Mayor, and thank you,
[47:47]
Council, and thank you, Somerset County Library System.
[47:51]
You've got a problem here.
[47:53]
I was a property manager for a while and
[47:55]
I know once you have mold in any
[47:57]
building, it always seems to stay.
[48:01]
And I understand that problem on both
[48:02]
sides of it. And I understand the
[48:04]
mitigation you can do, but people say,
[48:06]
"Oh, it has mold. Maybe I'm sick."
[48:09]
So, it's a hard problem you're going to
[48:10]
have to solve that. I'm not saying you
[48:11]
can't. I'm just saying it's a hard
[48:13]
problem. And it's a hard problem for you
[48:15]
because you have that behind you. You
[48:17]
weren't here when that was going on, but
[48:20]
unfortunately you have it now.
[48:22]
But, I'm here for a different reason.
[48:24]
Jim Somerville was our town historian
[48:26]
for many, many years. We have a Jim
[48:28]
Somerville room.
[48:29]
It's full of history. Full of history of
[48:32]
this town, this area.
[48:34]
I haven't heard it mentioned at all. I'm
[48:36]
really concerned about that. And you
[48:38]
know why. I'm a historian type. You
[48:40]
know, my wife and I ran four symposiums
[48:43]
about the Rev War.
[48:45]
We're really concerned about that and I
[48:46]
hope in your thinking of what you're
[48:48]
going to do, where you're going to live,
[48:51]
we don't lose that room and we don't
[48:53]
lose that material because it gets
[48:55]
abandoned for a while.
[48:57]
And that's what I wanted to say. Thank
[48:59]
you.
[48:59]
>> Agreed. Thank you.
[49:02]
Any other public comment?
[49:05]
Sir.
[49:12]
» Justin Kaiser, North Clark Avenue. Uh
[49:15]
I'm here tonight on behalf of SBI.
[49:18]
I'm currently a board member. I just
[49:19]
want to take a moment to thank uh you,
[49:21]
Mayor Gallagher, the council uh for
[49:24]
passing
[49:25]
uh the new ball fields going in the
[49:27]
Carol Pedro Ballpark. Um I grew up
[49:29]
playing on ball fields. I feel it shaped
[49:31]
me as a man.
[49:32]
Um building a lot of long friendships,
[49:35]
teamwork, uh discipline.
[49:37]
Um
[49:39]
it's just a wonderful thing. You guys
[49:40]
are making an investment in not only a
[49:42]
ball field, but in the kids,
[49:45]
uh the parents, the town. So, I just
[49:47]
want to say thank you very much. It's
[49:50]
really appreciated and it wasn't a small
[49:52]
undertaking.
[49:53]
>> Thank you.
[49:53]
for coming out and saying
[49:54]
that. Thank you.
[49:56]
Any other public comment?
[50:04]
» Good evening. Roberta Carpenito, 66
[50:07]
Fairview Avenue. And I'm also the
[50:08]
chairman of the Somerset County Library
[50:10]
Commission.
[50:12]
I would just like to say, Mayor, I
[50:13]
respect what you're saying.
[50:15]
I think an issue that we're encountering
[50:18]
is we are not seeking to close the
[50:21]
library.
[50:23]
We wish to provide 21st century library
[50:26]
service to our patrons and it in a
[50:30]
healthy, safe environment. Right now,
[50:33]
the mold is an issue and we do
[50:35]
appreciate what you're doing to
[50:37]
remediate it. But I stopped down in the
[50:40]
library on Friday.
[50:43]
And it's not just mold. As Peter
[50:46]
indicated, the sewers are a problem. The
[50:49]
emergency exit door in the children's
[50:52]
room, there's a big sign on it
[50:54]
downstairs in the basement. There's a
[50:56]
sign on it that says alarm, door locked.
[50:59]
The door's ajar.
[51:01]
Can't close it. It's a jar.
[51:03]
That's a safety issue.
[51:05]
There have been in You've had reports
[51:07]
over the years through the hack that
[51:09]
there are other
[51:11]
issues with regard to water. The windows
[51:14]
are moldy. If you look at the windows,
[51:16]
they're moldy.
[51:18]
You have chunks
[51:20]
of of insulation where pipes are. Chunks
[51:24]
ripped out of that insulation.
[51:26]
There are There are issues there that
[51:29]
make it untenable for us to continue to
[51:32]
provide service.
[51:35]
Upstairs, we've had concerns from
[51:37]
parents. They don't like that we have
[51:40]
glass walls in the children's room.
[51:42]
That's a concern for them.
[51:44]
They're concerned about the emergency
[51:47]
exit. I took a look at that. It's
[51:49]
totally rusted. And yes, Mayor, they did
[51:52]
repair the bottom step by putting 2 by
[51:55]
4s on it. That's not a safety situation.
[52:00]
So, we do want to work with you, but
[52:03]
that wasn't the question that was asked
[52:06]
of Peter and I when we were in the
[52:08]
executive session.
[52:10]
We cannot address a hypothetical. If
[52:13]
something occurs, which we don't know
[52:16]
what it might be, will we do this?
[52:19]
If the question is, can we work
[52:21]
together? Yes, absolutely.
[52:24]
I started my political career working to
[52:27]
save the Somerville Public Library.
[52:30]
And I I spent most a good part of my
[52:33]
time doing that. And Mayor, we worked
[52:35]
together to join the county association
[52:38]
or the county commission.
[52:39]
Why would we want to change that?
[52:42]
But we do need to work together. And I'm
[52:44]
hoping perhaps the governing body
[52:48]
and the commission, we can all take a
[52:50]
deep breath
[52:51]
and say, let's start again. Maybe have
[52:54]
another discussion.
[52:56]
But one where the question is, how can
[52:59]
we work together? Not, will you do this?
[53:02]
Oh, no, if your answer isn't yes, please
[53:04]
leave the room. Thank you.
[53:08]
>> Any other public comment? Yeah.
[53:16]
» Hi, my name is Kate Ambrose. I live at
[53:18]
204 East Cliff Street.
[53:22]
And I just wanted to say the library has
[53:25]
been and will always be extremely
[53:28]
important to my family and I. We use the
[53:29]
library a lot. Um
[53:31]
we my daughter loves to go pick out
[53:35]
books. We my husband just gave a
[53:38]
book reading there a couple weeks ago
[53:40]
and it was a great
[53:42]
And um so that's where I'm coming from.
[53:46]
I
[53:48]
the librarians and other staff members
[53:51]
at the library are also many of them are
[53:55]
also our community members and we care
[53:57]
about each other deeply in this town.
[54:00]
And I really care that they are getting
[54:03]
sick. As someone who suffers from
[54:04]
migraines, I really have heard what
[54:07]
Peter had was saying before about their
[54:10]
symptoms.
[54:12]
And the mold testing was a good start.
[54:14]
I'm really happy to hear that Did you
[54:16]
say it was an industrial hygienist?
[54:18]
>> Yes.
[54:19]
>> is doing the testing. That's exactly who
[54:21]
needs to be doing the testing. I'm not
[54:23]
an expert, but I have talked to one
[54:26]
about this very issue. And um there are
[54:29]
many apparently many other things in the
[54:32]
air that could be making people sick,
[54:35]
not just mold. There's other particles,
[54:38]
fibers that could be in the air that
[54:40]
makes somebody sick.
[54:42]
Um people who are susceptible, people
[54:45]
who have asthma, people who have
[54:48]
allergies, people who suffer from
[54:49]
migraines, um people who are on chemo,
[54:53]
all all different people that are
[54:55]
susceptible could be affected by these
[54:57]
other things that aren't necessarily
[55:00]
toxic mold.
[55:02]
So I'm really glad and the public will
[55:05]
um
[55:06]
be anxious to hear those results.
[55:09]
Um
[55:11]
it's not okay that this relationship has
[55:15]
soured.
[55:17]
And I'm sure it's not okay with any of
[55:19]
the people in this room.
[55:22]
This
[55:23]
relationship needs to mend for the good
[55:26]
of the community.
[55:28]
We need to get back to communication
[55:31]
and problem-solving.
[55:35]
I think that it's true um
[55:39]
that that space
[55:41]
although the staff members have done a
[55:43]
tremendous job working with what they
[55:47]
were given.
[55:48]
Um that space was not working as just
[55:52]
somebody visiting the library and I'm
[55:54]
sure many parents would agree. Um it's
[55:58]
not the same since they needed to move
[56:00]
out of of the children's section
[56:02]
downstairs.
[56:04]
So I'm asking everybody just to take a
[56:08]
minute and get themselves together and
[56:11]
that get back to what's important, which
[56:14]
is problem solving for this community.
[56:17]
Um
[56:19]
and get back to a working relationship.
[56:21]
We expect it and we demand it. Thank
[56:24]
you.
[56:24]
>> Thank you for your comments.
[56:26]
Any other public comment?
[56:35]
» Okay. My name is Edward O'Dowd. Uh I
[56:37]
work at a facility on Main Street called
[56:40]
Freedom Trail,
[56:42]
which is um collaborative services of uh
[56:45]
New Jersey.
[56:46]
A company that's been in existence since
[56:48]
the '80s. We serve uh
[56:50]
some of Somerville's most vulnerable.
[56:53]
And Lorraine, my partner, and I have
[56:55]
been at it for the last 4 months. We
[56:57]
wanted to just generate some awareness
[56:59]
about what we're doing and who we are
[57:01]
cuz we feel like nobody really knows us.
[57:03]
Um
[57:05]
that was all.
[57:06]
>> Great. Uh what I would suggest is get
[57:08]
your contact information to Mr. Sluka
[57:10]
>> Mhm.
[57:11]
>> and uh um
[57:12]
website, any literature you might have,
[57:15]
and uh
[57:16]
you know, I I'd be interested in finding
[57:17]
out more about you.
[57:18]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[57:19]
>> Thank you.
[57:22]
Any other public comment?
[57:25]
» [clears throat]
[57:31]
» Good evening. Uh Brian Healey, 70
[57:33]
Veterans Memorial Drive, right here in
[57:35]
Somerville. That's h e a l e y, and
[57:38]
Brian, just like the mayor.
[57:40]
>> [laughter]
[57:41]
>> Spelled the right way.
[57:42]
>> That's right.
[57:43]
And I come to you tonight for something
[57:44]
very, very simple. I live on the one of
[57:46]
the apartment buildings on Veterans
[57:47]
Memorial, and I want to know I I've been
[57:49]
living there about 8 years now, and
[57:52]
Veterans Memorial Drive east and west
[57:53]
has been
[57:54]
basically a test on your suspension for
[57:56]
since I've lived there.
[57:58]
And I know it's not a state or a county
[58:00]
road, so I know when is public works or
[58:02]
the borough going to resurface that
[58:04]
road. I know PSE&G has ripped it up
[58:06]
50,000 times doing utility work here and
[58:09]
there, but it's just it's been a mess
[58:11]
since I've lived there, and it's I know
[58:13]
all the roads have been done, and I was
[58:15]
wondering if it was possible cuz it's a
[58:16]
very busy road, it's a very major road.
[58:18]
People travel on it all the time.
[58:20]
I was curious as to when it will be uh
[58:23]
done, or when public works will will put
[58:25]
that on their agenda.
[58:27]
>> Thank you. Thank you for your comments.
[58:29]
That's all right. I will in a in a
[58:31]
moment. Any other public comment?
[58:38]
» Good evening.
[58:40]
As many of you know, my name is Mallory
[58:42]
Craig Karen. I'm a mom, and I live at 41
[58:45]
Ross Street.
[58:46]
I am here about our library,
[58:49]
but also about something more
[58:51]
fundamental.
[58:52]
Namely,
[58:54]
our town deserves to be a partner in
[58:56]
decisions made about Somerville's
[58:58]
library,
[58:59]
rather than an afterthought, informed by
[59:01]
the county only after decisions have
[59:03]
already been made.
[59:05]
So, this is about process. This is not
[59:07]
about anything more.
[59:09]
Tonight, I'm asking our council to
[59:11]
confirm whether the required processes
[59:13]
were followed, and whether it will be
[59:15]
the case going forward.
[59:18]
Somerville's library has served local
[59:20]
residents not only as a place for
[59:22]
reading,
[59:24]
but also as an information hub,
[59:26]
right, with computer access and trained
[59:29]
librarians,
[59:30]
a study center for students,
[59:33]
a designated cooling center where our
[59:35]
elderly residents cool off in sweltering
[59:37]
weather like today,
[59:39]
and a center where our families and
[59:41]
community groups can gather.
[59:44]
Yet, our library branch was permanently
[59:47]
closed,
[59:49]
at least for this time, by the county
[59:50]
library system last Friday
[59:52]
with very little notice given to the
[59:54]
public.
[59:56]
Looking into this decision,
[59:58]
I'm presented with more questions than
[1:00:00]
answers,
[1:00:01]
namely about the process,
[1:00:03]
and questions that include the
[1:00:04]
following.
[1:00:06]
First, section two of Somerville's
[1:00:08]
contract with the county library system
[1:00:11]
requires borough approval before any
[1:00:13]
closure of our branch.
[1:00:15]
I checked with our borough clerk, who
[1:00:17]
confirmed that formal approval was never
[1:00:20]
sought nor given.
[1:00:22]
So, I'm asking the council and our mayor
[1:00:24]
tonight, just factually to be aware,
[1:00:27]
did the borough council authorize the
[1:00:29]
county to close our library? And if so,
[1:00:32]
can you tell us when you authorized it
[1:00:34]
and what led to your decision?
[1:00:36]
Separately, public records suggest that
[1:00:39]
Somerset County's library commission,
[1:00:42]
which is the board that governs the
[1:00:43]
county library system,
[1:00:45]
never formally authorized Somerville's
[1:00:47]
library closure.
[1:00:49]
The library commission doesn't meet in
[1:00:51]
July or August, so I can't go ask them
[1:00:53]
directly,
[1:00:55]
but I'm wondering if the council knows
[1:00:57]
whether the library commission had
[1:00:59]
approved our library's closure before
[1:01:01]
their summer break.
[1:01:03]
Note, however, that even if the
[1:01:05]
commission had separately approved of
[1:01:07]
the closure,
[1:01:08]
this should not circumvent the county's
[1:01:10]
obligations to Somerville under section
[1:01:13]
two of our agreement with the county.
[1:01:16]
Third,
[1:01:17]
one reason given for the closure, again,
[1:01:19]
just one,
[1:01:21]
was the suspected presence of mold.
[1:01:23]
To his credit, when that issue was first
[1:01:25]
presented and reported to him, Mayor
[1:01:28]
Gallagher quickly ordered testing to
[1:01:31]
determine whether mold was a health
[1:01:32]
threat to the library's employees and
[1:01:34]
others.
[1:01:35]
As we've discussed, preliminary samples
[1:01:38]
from the occupied floors of the building
[1:01:40]
found that mold levels there were not
[1:01:42]
elevated.
[1:01:43]
And the county library director, who we
[1:01:45]
heard from tonight,
[1:01:46]
indicated that the decision to close the
[1:01:48]
Somerville library was not actually
[1:01:50]
caused by the test results and would not
[1:01:53]
sway the decision to close the result
[1:01:54]
the library.
[1:01:56]
It is true
[1:01:58]
that the age of the facility and the
[1:01:59]
reductions in the usable space within it
[1:02:02]
were less than ideal.
[1:02:04]
But, the question arises,
[1:02:06]
why the sudden closure of the entire
[1:02:08]
facility,
[1:02:09]
including its usable spaces,
[1:02:11]
before an improved replacement plan had
[1:02:14]
been developed and shared in partnership with our bureau?
[1:02:21]
Put plainly, our library's closure
[1:02:23]
appears to have been a decision
[1:02:25]
in which Somerville's legal right to
[1:02:27]
input was bypassed.
[1:02:29]
And I understand that that input is a
[1:02:32]
right that we have as part of the
[1:02:34]
process.
[1:02:36]
When the closure was recently announced,
[1:02:38]
we drafted a petition confirming
[1:02:39]
community support for making
[1:02:41]
Somerville's library a priority.
[1:02:44]
This modest effort to build awareness
[1:02:46]
has already resulted in hundreds of
[1:02:48]
local signatures, which I provided to
[1:02:50]
all of you tonight, and I can also
[1:02:51]
provide digital copies.
[1:02:54]
We warmly recognize the very important
[1:02:58]
work that you do as our elected leaders
[1:03:01]
to ensure that we have a library that
[1:03:03]
serves our community's needs.
[1:03:05]
And the response to our petition
[1:03:07]
confirms
[1:03:08]
that the library should indeed be one of
[1:03:11]
your priorities for Somerville.
[1:03:13]
I have personally written to to county
[1:03:15]
library director expressing the concern
[1:03:18]
that our library branch was closed
[1:03:20]
without a viable plan being shared to
[1:03:22]
replace it. And perhaps I'm I'm really
[1:03:25]
looking forward to answers tonight. Um,
[1:03:27]
you know, without that process being
[1:03:29]
followed.
[1:03:31]
Those of us who love Somerville and
[1:03:33]
believe that our
[1:03:35]
truly great town deserves a vibrant
[1:03:37]
library
[1:03:39]
now count on you as our leaders
[1:03:41]
to ensure that local library services be
[1:03:45]
restored fully and quickly in some
[1:03:47]
central Somerville location
[1:03:50]
as promised by the county library
[1:03:51]
system.
[1:03:53]
And fundamentally I ask that you ensure
[1:03:55]
and continue to ensure that Somerville's
[1:03:58]
rights under agreement will be honored.
[1:04:00]
Thank you so much.
[1:04:02]
>> Thank you.
[1:04:05]
Any other public comment?
[1:04:08]
Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to
[1:04:09]
close.
[1:04:10]
>> So moved.
[1:04:11]
>> Second.
[1:04:12]
>> Discussion. Roll call.
[1:04:14]
>> Council members, Anne
[1:04:15]
Andrew Conty.
[1:04:16]
>> Yes.
[1:04:17]
>> Linda Lee.
[1:04:17]
>> Yes.
[1:04:18]
>> Randy Pitts.
[1:04:18]
>> Yes.
[1:04:19]
>> Gina Stravic.
[1:04:19]
>> Yes.
[1:04:20]
>> Roger Fleming.
[1:04:21]
>> Yes.
[1:04:21]
>> All right, public session is now closed.
[1:04:23]
Um, the the easy one first, Veterans
[1:04:25]
Memorial Drive, the paving.
[1:04:27]
Where is he? There he is.
[1:04:29]
Um, I believe we're coming to a close
[1:04:31]
very soon on a grant that we had
[1:04:33]
received which would pave Veterans
[1:04:36]
>> The uh bids on that project are due
[1:04:38]
August 12th. Um,
[1:04:40]
once the bids are received, it's not as
[1:04:42]
simple as as our normal process cuz it's uh federally funded. They uh two
[1:04:48]
things have to happen is it goes to the
[1:04:51]
state DOT who then communicates with the
[1:04:54]
federal government to ensure that the
[1:04:56]
bids were satisfactory and and meet
[1:04:58]
their their requirements. In addition to
[1:05:00]
that is uh the federal government does
[1:05:03]
require a full-time construction
[1:05:06]
inspector on the job. That RFP is is
[1:05:09]
waiting for approval to be issued. So,
[1:05:12]
um listen, I I know we also use that road for, you know, one of the
[1:05:18]
state's largest Turkey Trots, right? So,
[1:05:20]
that that's the goal to try to get it,
[1:05:22]
but right now, unfortunately, because of
[1:05:24]
the level
[1:05:26]
that has to go through, but the bids are
[1:05:27]
coming back on August 12th, which is a
[1:05:29]
couple weeks.
[1:05:30]
>> we can say probably late fall, early
[1:05:32]
spring. Is that a reasonable time frame?
[1:05:35]
>> Yeah, I said that before. Um
[1:05:37]
>> [laughter]
[1:05:39]
>> Unfortunately, you know, for us. Oh,
[1:05:41]
yeah. Uh that's our certainly our goal
[1:05:44]
is to push that envelope.
[1:05:45]
>> Yeah. Okay.
[1:05:47]
Um
[1:05:47]
as far as all the questions relating to
[1:05:50]
the library, and there's some good
[1:05:51]
questions. And look, I I appreciate
[1:05:54]
everybody's passion on this, and and we
[1:05:57]
share that.
[1:05:58]
I I said at the outset of this,
[1:06:00]
everybody's goal is exactly the same.
[1:06:03]
And it's unfortunate that we've been
[1:06:05]
pushed to our corners for a whole lot of
[1:06:06]
reasons.
[1:06:08]
And and I don't like being pushed to
[1:06:09]
corners.
[1:06:10]
Um
[1:06:14]
I sat on our library commission here, or
[1:06:17]
committee.
[1:06:18]
Um I've sat on the county li- well, I
[1:06:21]
was the liaison as a freeholder, I was
[1:06:24]
the liaison to the county library
[1:06:25]
system.
[1:06:26]
I know how it works.
[1:06:28]
I've been around it a long time.
[1:06:31]
25 years.
[1:06:33]
I know the process.
[1:06:35]
Um we have rights under our agreement.
[1:06:39]
Um I'll agree with Roberta. We do need
[1:06:42]
to talk. We do need to to come to an
[1:06:45]
agreement.
[1:06:46]
And part of that is first, ensuring that building, our building, is clean
[1:06:53]
and safe.
[1:06:54]
That's my primary concern right now.
[1:06:56]
Once that's done,
[1:06:57]
and I said this at our our meeting last
[1:07:00]
Thursday,
[1:07:01]
I said, when we can show that that
[1:07:02]
building is clean and ready to go and
[1:07:04]
ready to occupy,
[1:07:06]
that's when we can have that discussion.
[1:07:08]
And I'm pointing at Kevin and pointing
[1:07:10]
at Peter cuz Peter was sitting there
[1:07:11]
last week. Um but that's when we can
[1:07:13]
have that discussion.
[1:07:15]
Um
[1:07:16]
we have to do our diligence to ensure
[1:07:19]
that that's safe.
[1:07:20]
At the same time, we also have to as a
[1:07:22]
municipality preserve our rights under
[1:07:25]
our agreement, and that's what our
[1:07:26]
attorney will do.
[1:07:27]
Um
[1:07:30]
it's going to be a little bit of a
[1:07:31]
process. Um
[1:07:34]
I would agree if if they can outsource
[1:07:36]
some at this point while we go through
[1:07:39]
that,
[1:07:40]
great.
[1:07:41]
And I had intimated to that last week
[1:07:44]
that we would help in that process. We
[1:07:46]
can.
[1:07:47]
But when that building is clean,
[1:07:50]
well, I'm even when it's
[1:07:52]
when we have the results back, and
[1:07:54]
again, the the mold was brought up again
[1:07:56]
that there's mold.
[1:07:58]
There's not There is no mold.
[1:08:00]
There's no more mold inside than there
[1:08:01]
is outside. That's what the testing is
[1:08:03]
showing.
[1:08:04]
And and we keep coming back to this mold
[1:08:07]
issue, and the mold issue was the
[1:08:08]
impetus for this entire discussion.
[1:08:11]
And we now have proof that that's not
[1:08:13]
the case.
[1:08:15]
So I think we have to kind of work
[1:08:18]
through some of those issues as to what
[1:08:20]
the reasons are.
[1:08:21]
Um and I would agree with you as well,
[1:08:24]
Mallory. I think you you you took this
[1:08:25]
on and I give you kudos for that. It's a you took this on and and you've
[1:08:30]
brought it to um
[1:08:32]
you know, the forefront of of a
[1:08:34]
discussion, and and I think that's good.
[1:08:36]
Um
[1:08:39]
I was around for Rocky Hill. I was a
[1:08:41]
freeholder when Rocky Hill was going
[1:08:42]
through. And I actually helped the
[1:08:45]
discussions in keeping Rocky Hill open
[1:08:47]
at that time. I sat with their mayor.
[1:08:50]
So I'm very familiar with all this
[1:08:53]
that's going on.
[1:08:55]
Um but my goal is
[1:08:58]
to keep our library in town.
[1:09:01]
And this building will be
[1:09:04]
certified.
[1:09:06]
And it'll be ready to be reoccupied
[1:09:10]
in the short term.
[1:09:11]
Then we can work on the long term
[1:09:13]
because we all want the same thing out
[1:09:15]
of that long term. We all do.
[1:09:19]
It makes sense.
[1:09:20]
So.
[1:09:22]
Um all right.
[1:09:25]
Resolutions. Uh we have consent
[1:09:26]
resolutions any to be pulled off for
[1:09:28]
further discussion.
[1:09:31]
All right, hearing none. 234 is
[1:09:33]
authorizing the sale of surplus
[1:09:34]
equipment to the Flagtown Fire
[1:09:36]
Department in the amount of $750.
[1:09:38]
235 is approving chapter 159 from the
[1:09:41]
Governor's Council on Alcoholism and
[1:09:42]
Drug Abuse for 26 Municipal Alliance
[1:09:44]
Grant Program.
[1:09:46]
236 amending approving the release of
[1:09:48]
the performance bond for Santana LLC as
[1:09:50]
noted. 237 is authorizing the donation
[1:09:53]
of surplus municipal equipment to the
[1:09:55]
Hillsborough Township Department of
[1:09:56]
Public Works. 238 is amending resolution
[1:09:59]
as noted to authorize and direct the
[1:10:01]
Planning Board of the Borough of
[1:10:02]
Somerville to include block 67 lot one
[1:10:05]
which is two Park Avenue as shown on the
[1:10:07]
official tax map of the Borough in its
[1:10:09]
examination of whether certain property
[1:10:11]
should be determined to be an area in
[1:10:13]
need of redevelopment specifically a
[1:10:15]
non-condemnation redevelopment area
[1:10:18]
pursuant to the local redevelopment
[1:10:19]
housing law as noted and considered for
[1:10:22]
inclusion in the East Central Business
[1:10:23]
District Redevelopment Area.
[1:10:25]
239 is approving the hiring of Kyle De
[1:10:27]
Monte as full-time laborer effective
[1:10:30]
August 24th at a rate of $22.50 per
[1:10:32]
hour.
[1:10:33]
240 is approving a 6-month door-to-door
[1:10:35]
solicitor license for Power Home
[1:10:36]
Remodeling for those noted. 241 is
[1:10:39]
authorizing the award of a contract to
[1:10:41]
Millennium Communication Group for
[1:10:43]
access control cameras, panic buttons,
[1:10:45]
message boards, and software licenses
[1:10:46]
for the Emergency Services Facility,
[1:10:49]
Police Department through the interlocal
[1:10:50]
purchasing system. Authorizing the 242
[1:10:54]
is authorizing the award of a contract
[1:10:56]
and execution of a master service
[1:10:57]
agreement with language line services
[1:10:59]
for on-demand telephone and video
[1:11:01]
interpretation services.
[1:11:03]
243 is approving chapter 159 from the
[1:11:05]
national opioid settlement trust. 244 is
[1:11:08]
issuing a refund of uncollectible taxes
[1:11:11]
address known as 444 Catherine Street.
[1:11:14]
245 is approving chapter 159 for state
[1:11:16]
of New Jersey 26 recycling tonnage
[1:11:18]
grant. Do we have a motion?
[1:11:19]
>> So moved.
[1:11:21]
>> Second.
[1:11:22]
>> Roll call.
[1:11:22]
>> Council members Andrew Conti.
[1:11:24]
>> Yes.
[1:11:24]
>> Glenn Zaney.
[1:11:25]
>> Yes.
[1:11:25]
>> Randy Pitts.
[1:11:26]
>> Yes.
[1:11:26]
>> Gina Strabic.
[1:11:27]
>> Yes.
[1:11:27]
>> Roger Vernam.
[1:11:28]
>> Yes.
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>> All right, bills and vouchers Roger.
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>> I make a motion to pay bills and
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vouchers in the amount of 1 million
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512,098
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dollars and 80 cents.
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>> Second.
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>> Discussion.
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Roll call.
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>> Council members Andrew Conti.
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>> Yes.
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>> Glenn Zaney.
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>> Yes.
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>> Randy Pitts.
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>> Yes.
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>> Gina Strabic.
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>> Yes.
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>> Roger Vernam.
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>> Yes.
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>> All right, Mr. DeNike I will ask for a
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motion for adjournment.
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>> I would like to make a motion to
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adjourn.
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>> Second.
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>> Discussion. All in favor?
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>> I.
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>> Opposed? This meeting is adjourned.