[1:59] Mhm.

[3:41] » Baby, have fun.

[4:16] » Okay, I think we'll get started here.

[4:19] Want to welcome everybody to uh South

[4:21] Weber City Council today at 6:00 p.m.

[4:24] on Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026.

[4:28] We'll begin with the Pledge of

[4:29] Allegiance uh led by

[4:31] uh Councilman Davis, and then I'll offer

[4:34] a prayer.

[4:35] >> Please rise and repeat after me.

[4:39] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[4:41] United States of America, and to the

[4:42] republic for which it stands, one nation

[4:46] under God, indivisible,

[4:50] with liberty and justice for

[4:52] all.

[5:03] » Our heavenly Father, we're thankful for

[5:05] the opportunity we have with you

[5:07] here this evening in City Council of the

[5:10] City of South Weber. We're so grateful

[5:12] for

[5:12] this city and the

[5:14] many

[5:17] things that it provides for us.

[5:20] We're grateful for

[5:22] this nation that we live in.

[5:24] Grateful for the freedoms and liberties

[5:26] that we enjoy as we celebrate 250 years.

[5:30] We thank you for

[5:32] this great nation that thou has

[5:34] blessed us with. May that we will

[5:36] realize

[5:37] uh the blessings that we do have.

[5:39] Grateful

[5:40] for

[5:42] all those that serve in the city,

[5:45] volunteers, and staff, employees

[5:49] and firefighters

[5:53] public safety and

[5:54] thankful for them and pray that thou

[5:56] bless them and

[5:57] keep them safe as they

[5:59] serve this great community. Grateful

[6:02] for thy blessings. We pray that as we

[6:04] discuss

[6:06] the things that are important to this

[6:08] city that we might

[6:09] be guided to make the correct decisions

[6:14] and once that will help

[6:16] us grow and lead this

[6:18] city.

[6:19] Grateful for this opportunity.

[6:22] Pray for thy blessings in the name of

[6:23] Jesus Christ. Amen.

[6:28] » I appreciate that pledge.

[6:31] Uh before we have our public comments,

[6:33] we

[6:34] like to have our fire chief, Derek

[6:37] Holman, come up and uh give us a few words

[6:42] on

[6:43] fire protection.

[6:48] » I know uh I've been getting a lot of

[6:49] questions, especially after the govern-

[6:52] governor's statements about why isn't

[6:55] our municipality doing anything at the

[6:57] governor's direction. Um

[7:00] not to speak poorly of our governor, but

[7:02] our governor was clearly misinformed

[7:04] when he said it's up to the

[7:04] municipalities to create changes.

[7:07] And that seems to have riled a lot of

[7:09] people up giving them this idea that we

[7:11] have the ability as a city to affect

[7:13] some kind of change when it comes to

[7:14] fireworks. And I know the council

[7:19] You know, I know the council and the

[7:20] mayor, I know you guys know this, so

[7:22] this is for the benefit of the public

[7:24] that we have as a city, we have till May

[7:27] 1st to approve a fireworks map. After

[7:30] May 1st, we can't make any changes to

[7:32] that map and any further restrictions

[7:35] beyond that map have to come from the

[7:37] state legislature or by an executive

[7:39] emergency declaration from the

[7:41] governor's office.

[7:42] So, any expectation anyone in the public

[7:45] has that that myself as the fire chief

[7:47] or you as the counselor or the mayor can

[7:48] change anything

[7:50] to impact firework use is false.

[7:54] It has to come from the state

[7:55] legislature or by an emergency

[7:57] declaration from the governor's office.

[7:59] And so, while we

[8:01] well, I as the fire chief encourage

[8:04] people to use their best judgment and realize

[8:07] how dry things are and to not shoot

[8:09] fireworks, we have no legal authority as

[8:11] a city to tell people they cannot shoot

[8:14] fireworks.

[8:15] And and people can be held personally

[8:18] responsible for any damage that occurs

[8:20] due to errant fireworks, and that's

[8:23] something people should be considering

[8:24] when they decide to shoot their

[8:25] fireworks.

[8:26] Um

[8:27] but unfortunately, and unless something

[8:29] changes at the state legislature, that

[8:31] authority has been removed from our city

[8:33] to be able to affect any changes moving

[8:36] forward. So, so anyone upset needs to be

[8:38] taking it up with their state

[8:40] legislatures cuz that's ultimately if a

[8:42] change is going to happen, that's where

[8:43] the change needs to come from.

[8:45] So, any I know you again, I know you all

[8:47] know that, but if there's any questions

[8:49] I can answer from you.

[8:52] >> Um

[8:53] does that also affect the

[8:55] like state lands?

[8:57] Like forest land or even the national

[9:00] forest land and does any of that reach

[9:02] our canyon?

[9:03] >> Yes. So, stage one fire restrictions

[9:06] from the state and the county actually

[9:08] went into effect this last week. We

[9:10] posted those on our social media. So,

[9:12] any residents that actually have land

[9:14] that goes into unincorporated county,

[9:16] they can't do any fireworks, they can't

[9:18] do any recreational burns, they can't do

[9:21] anything of that nature. So, the the

[9:23] counties and the state can control

[9:25] unincorporated county and and then

[9:28] through their agreements with the feds,

[9:30] they can affect changes there.

[9:33] But, they've handcuffed cities' ability

[9:35] to do any kind of further restrictions.

[9:38] We were actually one of the cities that

[9:40] actually um did the all outright ban.

[9:43] Some of you were on the council, and it

[9:45] was actually that next legislative

[9:46] session that the legislature passed a

[9:48] law saying we were no longer allowed to

[9:49] do that. So, anyone thinking we're not

[9:52] willing to take this serious, I know in

[9:54] the past we've shown that we are willing

[9:56] to be very serious when it comes to

[9:57] fireworks to the point where we did do

[9:59] an all right all

[10:00] out ban in the past.

[10:03] Mhm.

[10:05] >> So, we do have a map, and we do have a

[10:07] map that shows where our city is

[10:09] restricted. So, we'll we'll just refer

[10:12] everybody to

[10:13] look go online and pull up that map, and

[10:16] those areas we can enforce and will

[10:18] enforce.

[10:19] >> Yep. And if if anyone in the public ever

[10:22] has further questions beyond what I've

[10:23] shared tonight, they're always welcome

[10:25] to reach out to me as well, and I'd be

[10:26] happy to answer any questions they have.

[10:28] >> Thank you, Derek.

[10:31] Okay, public comments. If anyone has any

[10:34] comments they'd like to make, we invite

[10:36] you up to the

[10:37] podium, speak in the microphone, and

[10:39] state your name and the city

[10:41] from which you're from, and we'll allow

[10:43] you 3 minutes to

[10:45] speak.

[10:46] Please address the entire council.

[10:53] No public comments. Okay.

[10:56] We'll move along.

[10:57] First item then on the agenda is the

[10:59] need to approve

[11:00] uh June 9th, 2026 minutes.

[11:04] Council, do you have any changes or

[11:07] uh

[11:09] things that need to be addressed in the

[11:11] minutes. If not, we'll look for a

[11:12] motion.

[11:17] » Motion to approve.

[11:19] >> Have a motion. We have a second.

[11:20] >> Second.

[11:23] All in favor, say I.

[11:24] >> I.

[11:27] » Next item, ordinance 2026-07,

[11:31] changing zoning of 1.45 acre parcel

[11:34] number 130180101

[11:38] at approximately 1550 E66

[11:42] 50 South from agricultural to

[11:44] residential moderate.

[11:47] Uh

[11:48] Council, do you have any

[11:50] discussion on this ordinance?

[11:57] Not, we'll look for a motion.

[11:59] >> Is Is it the plan to just divide it?

[12:06] » Yeah, I think

[12:08] they probably have a family member that

[12:10] wants to build on.

[12:13] » It just says two lots.

[12:15] >> Yeah.

[12:17] They'll create one new lot.

[12:24] » I'm a will serve letter was requested

[12:26] for water this morning.

[12:28] A will serve letter was requested this

[12:30] morning for water.

[12:32] Just don't give permits until that's

[12:34] paid for.

[12:37] >> So that'll be part of the subdivision.

[12:39] It still has to go through the

[12:40] subdivision process.

[12:41] >> So that'll be the first check.

[12:43] >> Preliminary approval with the planning

[12:45] commission and the final plat at the

[12:47] >> Okay.

[12:47] >> approval [clears throat] board and then

[12:48] the approval board.

[12:49] >> Thank you.

[12:53] » Okay, someone like to make a motion.

[12:57] » May I move to approve ordinance 2026-07

[13:00] changing zoning of parcel 130180101

[13:03] from agricultural A-2 residential

[13:05] moderate.

[13:07] >> Second.

[13:08] >> We have motion second. Councilwoman

[13:11] Petty.

[13:13] Start with a roll call vote with

[13:14] Councilman Halverson.

[13:15] >> Aye.

[13:20] » It's unanimous. Motion carries.

[13:24] Uh next item we'll uh look for a motion

[13:26] to open a public hearing.

[13:28] >> Oops.

[13:30] >> What did I forget? Oh, I did.

[13:32] I should have stood up before I went to

[13:34] Resolution 26-21

[13:37] interlocal cooperative agreement with

[13:39] Davis County

[13:40] for law enforcement services.

[13:45] Does anyone have any

[13:47] concerns on this new agreement with them

[13:49] for the year?

[13:51] >> It's pretty much the same, isn't it?

[13:53] Public safety.

[13:54] >> It's pretty much all the same.

[13:56] >> Slight increase.

[13:57] >> They're going to

[13:58] Right.

[14:00] >> Did we ever get the cars with South

[14:02] Weber City painted on the side?

[14:05] No, I didn't think so.

[14:10] Just saying.

[14:11] >> Sounded nice.

[14:12] >> Who's on public

[14:13] I thought that was the public safety

[14:14] committee's responsibility.

[14:16] >> It probably was, you guys.

[14:23] Okay, someone like to make a motion.

[14:28] » Move to approve Resolution 26-21

[14:30] interlocal cooperative agreement with

[14:32] Davis County for law enforcement

[14:34] services as written.

[14:36] >> Second.

[14:38] >> Okay, we have a motion and a second by

[14:39] Councilman Windsor. We'll do roll call

[14:41] vote starting with Councilman Windsor.

[14:43] >> Aye.

[14:49] » Okay, motion carries. Thank you. Now

[14:51] we're ready to do a public

[14:53] hearing.

[14:54] Need to have a motion to

[14:57] open the public hearing for budget

[14:58] amendments for current year 2026.

[15:04] » So moved.

[15:05] >> Second.

[15:07] >> All in favor say aye.

[15:08] >> Aye.

[15:10] >> Okay, public hearing is open. Does

[15:12] anyone have any comments?

[15:17] Seeing none, we'll ask for a motion to

[15:20] close the public hearing.

[15:22] >> So, move to close the public hearing.

[15:25] » Second.

[15:27] >> All in favor say I.

[15:28] >> I.

[15:31] » Okay, resolution 26-22,

[15:34] fiscal year 2026 budget amendment number

[15:37] three.

[15:39] Anyone have any

[15:40] comments or concerns

[15:43] on this resolution?

[15:46] » Brett, do you have anything to

[15:49] update us on more than

[15:51] in the reporter?

[15:52] >> Um no, not at this point other than

[15:55] what's in the staff report.

[15:58] Um there's no changes from that.

[16:01] Um a lot of it is just

[16:03] catching up on on the unknowns things

[16:05] that happened throughout the year,

[16:07] development that occurs, there's

[16:09] revenues and expenditures that that pass

[16:11] through the city.

[16:13] Um and that's where a lot of that

[16:16] change has occurred.

[16:17] Um there are some public work

[16:20] the new building, there's a lot of

[16:21] things that weren't planned for.

[16:25] We didn't know what to expect for

[16:26] utilities and and services directly

[16:29] related to that. So, that's

[16:31] just a lot catching up on a lot of the

[16:33] unknowns that

[16:35] we tried to plan for, but just didn't

[16:37] see coming.

[16:40] » Ty,

[16:42] is it are there any one-time

[16:44] um monies that we're

[16:46] allocating to any of those? I saw one

[16:48] thing for I thought the uh ARPA funds,

[16:51] but

[16:51] >> There was ARPA and and both RAP money

[16:54] were they were used during the during

[16:57] the year that

[16:58] they weren't initially budgeted for, but

[17:01] happened throughout the year. Um they

[17:03] were

[17:04] the the projects were approved. Well,

[17:07] the use of those monies we just didn't

[17:08] have them set in the budget at the time.

[17:11] So, that's kind of why this is kind of a

[17:13] catch-up of what happened throughout the

[17:15] year.

[17:16] >> So, does that mean

[17:18] the the money that we're

[17:20] talking about and balancing out and

[17:22] correcting it back and forth, um

[17:25] have those been added, that additional

[17:28] cost, to the new budget?

[17:31] Um since we're obviously short

[17:33] or high on some of them, um is any of

[17:36] that information ever used in the new

[17:39] budget or

[17:40] could we just keep making the same

[17:41] mistake if it's some of them?

[17:44] >> It's not necessarily a mistake. It's

[17:46] just we don't know the unknown.

[17:49] Um and so that's where the these

[17:51] one-time funds that a lot of the ARPA

[17:53] and and RAP money comes from

[17:56] committees setting setting what projects

[17:58] they want to do. We don't know that at

[18:00] the beginning of the year.

[18:02] Um but as that goes throughout the year,

[18:04] then we look at increasing the budget

[18:07] and and that finally comes to fruition

[18:09] the the project and we we add those

[18:11] funds into that.

[18:13] >> And they were one-time things and they

[18:14] don't need to move to next year's

[18:16] budget.

[18:16] >> But that's that's what I'm asking about

[18:18] is Yeah.

[18:19] >> Um as those one-time things come up,

[18:22] that's when it's discussed um how much

[18:25] and then the project goes forward and

[18:27] then the budget will increase based on

[18:30] that.

[18:31] >> Um and what is sundry?

[18:33] Or sundry or however you say it.

[18:35] >> The sundry,

[18:37] that is

[18:38] for the general fund, that's that's a

[18:40] lot of the miscellaneous payments that

[18:42] we were

[18:44] revenues that we collect. It could be

[18:46] anywhere from

[18:49] Well,

[18:50] that that's kind of what it is. It's a

[18:52] lot of the miscellaneous revenues that

[18:54] we collect.

[18:55] Um

[18:57] it's just kind of true up what we

[19:00] received throughout the year in that in

[19:02] that

[19:04] department. Um

[19:07] it's a lot of generic use.

[19:11] >> So,

[19:11] >> things that we

[19:12] specified elsewhere really.

[19:15] I mean, we do have our our chart of

[19:17] accounts.

[19:17] >> in our next budget that come up, do we

[19:19] have money going to a sundry account?

[19:23] >> We have we do have a budget for that. Um

[19:26] we've always been very very conservative

[19:28] in that to try and make it so that we

[19:31] know exactly where the funds are going,

[19:33] but we don't that's one of those

[19:35] unknowns. We We keep that low

[19:38] and then as things happen throughout the

[19:40] year,

[19:41] um it's just miscellaneous payments. It

[19:43] could be interest, it could be fines, it

[19:45] could be not necessarily fines. We do

[19:47] have one separate for fines, but um

[19:49] there's code enforcement issues that that's where it gets coded. Um

[19:54] things like that that we didn't expect,

[19:56] that's where the sundry revenue comes

[19:57] from.

[20:00] » Okay.

[20:01] I I I don't understand why it's separate

[20:04] from the general fund.

[20:06] Um but I'll vote it, so.

[20:07] >> It's just part of the general fund. It's

[20:09] not separate.

[20:10] >> Okay, so it doesn't it's not some place

[20:13] that we're actually setting up a line

[20:15] item for sundry and putting money into

[20:17] that.

[20:18] >> It's No, it's it's the miscellaneous

[20:20] revenue that we collect from

[20:23] >> from customers.

[20:25] >> Thank you.

[20:28] » Okay, any other questions?

[20:32] I'll ask for a motion on this then.

[20:38] » Mayor, I move to approve resolution

[20:40] 26-22 of fiscal year 2026 budget

[20:43] amendment number three.

[20:45] >> Second.

[20:47] >> Motion is seconded by Councilman

[20:49] Windsor. We'll do roll call starting

[20:50] with Councilman Halverson.

[20:51] >> Aye.

[20:56] » Great. Motion carries. Next item,

[20:59] resolution 26-23 amend the

[21:02] consolidated fee schedule.

[21:05] Any questions on this resolution?

[21:08] Or discussion?

[21:12] » I just like a little history on it. Is

[21:14] it Did we go through a process again of

[21:16] verifying how many hours we're spending

[21:19] doing these doing these items and making

[21:22] sure that we're getting

[21:23] all of our money for it?

[21:25] Or what did we do?

[21:27] >> Yes, there was there was some analysis.

[21:29] A lot of it came from either committees

[21:31] and or and or staff based on the

[21:34] knowledge that they have. Um for

[21:36] example, one of those is the fire

[21:38] hydrant.

[21:39] Um

[21:40] for up until this year, well, for even

[21:43] for this current year, we were charging

[21:45] $500 plus a I think at that point it was

[21:48] a $25 non-refundable deposit. Um now

[21:54] we we've done analysis and figured out

[21:56] that the actual cost is is closer to

[21:58] $1,500.

[22:00] Um and the maintenance that goes along

[22:02] with that, so we increased the

[22:04] non-refundable to $100 and the deposit

[22:07] on that is $1,500 to cover the cost of the hydrant. There's there's little

[22:12] things, not little, but there's things

[22:14] throughout the the fee schedule where analysis was done on our actual

[22:19] cost to either and we we raised the a

[22:23] lot of those costs and due to that. Um

[22:25] there were some pass-through that we

[22:28] don't really have a say in. Uh we just

[22:31] have to pass that on to on to the

[22:33] residents. Um but as far as some of the utility charges

[22:38] >> Trash.

[22:39] >> Um but

[22:40] um we did do quite a bit of analysis and

[22:42] reviews um along with I changed the

[22:45] format of the the fee schedule to be

[22:50] uh in my eyes it it's easier to read and

[22:53] understand and see one column of where

[22:56] all the fees are.

[22:58] Um

[22:59] but uh there there was a change in the

[23:02] fee schedule and how it looks.

[23:04] Um

[23:06] but

[23:07] if there if there's anything specific

[23:09] you guys want to discuss or ask about

[23:13] >> No, I'm just happy that due diligence is

[23:15] being done, at least from from my point

[23:17] of view.

[23:18] Um do you feel that all the areas have

[23:20] been hit that are important?

[23:22] >> Yes, I I believe

[23:25] there's

[23:27] there may be some things here and there

[23:29] that I didn't have a chance to get to.

[23:32] Um but I feel like we covered a majority

[23:35] of the of the questions and concerns

[23:38] that either council has brought to us or

[23:40] that the committees have brought to us

[23:42] along with staff's recommendations.

[23:45] >> Awesome. Thank you.

[23:49] » Any others?

[23:52] Ask for a motion.

[23:57] » Mayor, I'll move to approve resolution

[23:58] 26-23 amending the consolidated fee

[24:01] schedule.

[24:01] >> Second.

[24:04] >> Okay, we have motion and second. We'll

[24:05] do roll call starting with Councilman

[24:07] Wood.

[24:07] >> Aye.

[24:11] >> Okay, motion carries. And next

[24:13] [clears throat]

[24:14] resolution 26-24 adopt fiscal year 2027

[24:18] interim budget.

[24:20] Any discussion on this?

[24:28] » So can somebody help me understand what

[24:30] this one specifically is?

[24:32] Because we have that listed here as the

[24:35] um

[24:36] uh

[24:37] which rate?

[24:39] Whether we're going to hold to the rate

[24:40] or whether we're going to increase.

[24:42] >> So let me try and explain this

[24:47] in in a way cuz it it there's a lot of

[24:50] moving pieces here.

[24:52] Um so the the first initial piece

[24:56] is that

[24:59] the the choice to to hold the rate

[25:03] there's a calculation process that goes

[25:05] into that and

[25:09] I'm estimating two different numbers to

[25:11] come up with that rate.

[25:13] And my estimations are coming from the

[25:15] county and from the state.

[25:17] Um

[25:18] I don't know what they are and I I

[25:20] estimated the best that I could and

[25:23] in the end when we got the final numbers

[25:25] for the uh the property tax valuation

[25:28] and the revenue that we collect

[25:31] um and the certified tax rate that the

[25:33] county would give us

[25:35] um they were all a little bit different.

[25:38] And which caused

[25:40] because of us wanting to hold that rate

[25:43] give us less revenue in our in our

[25:46] property tax revenue than what I had

[25:49] estimated. So, that's where we come up

[25:51] with that initial

[25:53] budget adjustment of of $21,000.

[25:57] Um and then along with that the property

[25:59] tax value impact schedule changed. So,

[26:03] now that we have um

[26:06] about rather than the $39,000 originally

[26:09] that we were expecting we're expecting a $13,000

[26:13] increase in property tax revenue.

[26:17] That's kind of all of that in a

[26:20] nutshell. Do you

[26:23] >> Yeah, let me let me try to say it

[26:24] another way in case

[26:26] uh

[26:27] just in case people hear differently.

[26:29] So, our tax rate in 2026 was 0.001434.

[26:35] So, 1434.

[26:37] Um the county just provided us with the

[26:40] certified tax rate for this year, which

[26:42] is 1421.

[26:44] So, down a little bit uh because

[26:47] property values on the whole in the city

[26:49] went up a little bit. And uh the city

[26:51] would then receive the same amount of

[26:53] property tax uh uh amount as last year

[26:56] if we accepted that certified tax rate.

[26:58] To this point, the council has said they

[27:00] wanted to maintain the 1434

[27:03] rate, and therefore the intent to go

[27:05] through truth in taxation, the estimated

[27:09] additional value that we would get is

[27:12] $39,000.

[27:14] Now that we know the actual certified

[27:16] tax rate, we know that the actual

[27:20] property tax value above and beyond the

[27:23] certified tax rate is actually

[27:26] just under $13,000.

[27:28] So, [clears throat] we estimated 3%

[27:30] increase, it ends up being about a 1%

[27:32] increase.

[27:33] And so, that uh tax impact schedule that

[27:36] we had to create that showed $39,000

[27:40] that if we go through the truth in

[27:42] taxation process and choose not to hold

[27:45] the rate and to actually take the

[27:47] certified tax rate, that money would be

[27:49] removed out of the budget, that 39,000.

[27:52] Now we only need to show $13,000 on that

[27:56] schedule.

[27:58] Okay? So, that's one decision point is

[27:59] what $13,000 do we maintain on our on

[28:02] our schedule there?

[28:04] >> That will get us to the one 1329, the

[28:07] 1,329,000,

[28:08] correct?

[28:10] >> Yes.

[28:11] >> Okay.

[28:11] >> So, we estimated the total amount of

[28:14] money for the city to receive in

[28:16] property tax at 1,350,000.

[28:20] Um that rate of 1434 actually will

[28:23] provide to us, based on the county

[28:25] numbers, 1,329,000.

[28:29] So, while we need to show 13,000 as our

[28:31] tax impact schedule,

[28:34] we also need to reduce our budget by

[28:36] $21,000

[28:38] because that's

[28:39] how much higher we estimated what our

[28:42] revenue would be by holding the rate

[28:43] than what it actually is. So, staff

[28:46] suggestion to the council in order to

[28:49] remove $21,000 from the general fund

[28:51] expenses

[28:53] is to look at our previous tax impact

[28:55] schedule that had 39,000 on it and say

[28:58] what of that 39,000

[29:00] is not going to be in the budget next year. What are we

[29:05] cutting? What $21,000 are we cutting?

[29:08] Staff has worked with the department

[29:09] heads, Brett and I um have talked

[29:11] through that and have right made a

[29:13] recommendation. The council of course um

[29:16] can look at anything in the in the

[29:18] general fund departments to say this is

[29:21] money we would like to adjust uh or pull

[29:23] out. Uh but on that tax impact schedule

[29:26] of currently 39,000, 21 needs to

[29:29] actually be removed from the budget and told us tonight, remove 21,000 and

[29:36] this is what the interim budget now will

[29:38] include. And then as a second decision,

[29:40] what needs to be on the new tax impact

[29:42] schedule that shows 13,000. Cuz that's

[29:45] the actual amount above certified tax

[29:47] rate we will receive by going through

[29:49] truth in taxation and if the council um

[29:52] holds the rate of 14.34.

[29:55] Does that make sense? There's a lot of

[29:57] moving pieces in there, so if it

[29:58] doesn't, please ask for clarification.

[30:00] >> So, if I understand

[30:02] >> [clears throat]

[30:03] >> procedure correct, the first question

[30:05] then before before the council is are we

[30:09] going to hold the rate

[30:11] or are we going to

[30:14] adjust the rate?

[30:16] >> Well, that decision does not have to be

[30:17] made tonight because the intent to go

[30:20] through truth in taxation was already

[30:22] made.

[30:22] >> Right, but

[30:24] if we're going to be putting forward a

[30:26] budget that is minus now $21,000,

[30:32] we need to give input on where that

[30:34] money is supposed to come from.

[30:36] >> Yes, the decision tonight has to be what

[30:38] 21,000 is removed from the budget. Yes,

[30:42] first decision.

[30:43] >> Okay, so if we're not going to hold the

[30:45] rate

[30:46] then we all 39

[30:47] >> to the 34,000.

[30:49] >> Yes, come out of the

[30:50] >> Uh-huh.

[30:54] » So,

[30:55] procedure-wise,

[30:57] we don't have to vote on the rate yet.

[31:00] >> No. No, that will be after the truth in

[31:02] taxation hearing in August.

[31:03] >> Okay. So, after that meeting

[31:06] I I guess I don't understand if if we if

[31:09] we're not going to set the actual

[31:10] amount, we have to set right now what's

[31:13] going to be taken out of it.

[31:15] >> Because we estimated $21,000

[31:18] high in our budget. We have a budget

[31:20] document that we know we're not going to

[31:23] get that amount of revenue now that the

[31:25] county has told us the actual revenue

[31:27] number. So, we need to remove $21,000

[31:30] out of our interim budget.

[31:32] >> But not if we're going to raise the rate

[31:35] to meet that amount.

[31:36] >> Even if we raise the rate and hold 1434,

[31:40] we are short $21,000.

[31:42] >> He's saying if we raise it above that.

[31:44] >> We cannot raise it above we

[31:45] >> 34 that's what we've noticed.

[31:47] >> Okay. Yeah, 1434 is now the highest we

[31:50] can we can go.

[31:51] >> Okay.

[31:52] >> Yeah.

[31:52] >> Good clarification.

[31:54] Thank you.

[31:55] Um

[31:57] Okay, how do we want to handle the what

[31:59] needs to be pulled out then?

[32:01] Because I don't think we've had really

[32:02] much communication and discussion on

[32:05] that other than the list of um

[32:08] getting rid of the trees, taking off a

[32:10] few other things,

[32:12] and not touching anything like executive

[32:14] salaries.

[32:15] >> That's the decision for the council.

[32:17] Staff's recommendation is to look at the

[32:19] previous 39,000 and choose what of that

[32:23] is removed. But again, the council

[32:25] anything on the anything in the budget

[32:28] is the council's decision. Um as we get

[32:30] to near the end of this process,

[32:33] um staff's recommendation is that 39,000

[32:36] was the initial list of what we would

[32:38] cut out of the budget if we didn't get

[32:40] the revenue from truth and taxation. And

[32:43] so that feels like the first list of

[32:45] items to to consider. But again, council

[32:48] >> I wish that staff would have provided

[32:50] more than just that.

[32:53] Um cuz to me it almost seems like you

[32:55] guys picked and chose which one you

[32:57] wanted. And I know you went through the

[32:58] committees and those kind of things, but

[33:00] at the same time um we spent a lot of

[33:03] money on the uh training and trips and

[33:06] things like that that could be shed off.

[33:09] Again, executive uh pay structure, uh

[33:12] maybe taking that just down to a cola

[33:14] for this year uh or whenever. Um I'm not

[33:17] saying that that's what we are going to

[33:19] do. I'm just saying there should have

[33:20] been an I would have appreciated, I

[33:23] can't say for the council, I would have

[33:24] appreciated list of more than just those

[33:27] items.

[33:30] Okay.

[33:31] Because I don't I don't put in any equal

[33:34] um

[33:35] level uh our fire station and their

[33:39] needs with maybe

[33:42] pushing to get um

[33:43] one of the projects done this year that

[33:47] isn't going to have a a big impact if it

[33:50] waited another year or two.

[33:52] Um but I don't know any of those are

[33:54] what they can be. So do you understand

[33:56] how that's limiting

[33:58] and what our choices can be?

[34:01] >> Sure. Yeah, I I see how you feel that

[34:03] way. I also I also feel personally that

[34:06] we came up with that list based on

[34:08] council direction, that it wasn't staff

[34:10] working in a bubble, but I do I do

[34:12] totally get the feeling that that we

[34:15] were tasked with providing that list of

[34:16] 39,000 and and the council was not in

[34:19] the room when we decided what that

[34:21] 39,000 was to put on the list.

[34:24] >> Mayor, can we have that list brought up

[34:26] on the screen so we can see what the

[34:28] staff did identify that equal to that

[34:30] 39,000 so we could then start

[34:32] >> staff [clears throat] did what we asked

[34:34] them to do.

[34:36] >> It's pretty straightforward what they

[34:37] did.

[34:38] >> and staff did that.

[34:39] >> if you have your packet.

[34:40] >> Well, staff has always uh

[34:43] >> Lisa can pull it up. That's all he's

[34:44] asking.

[34:45] >> This is what we recommend, but it is the

[34:47] council's decision on all of it.

[34:49] >> Yeah, I'm just hoping that bring the

[34:50] conversation forward. If we could start

[34:51] with that list to answer the question,

[34:53] what do we remove to get it down to 13?

[34:56] And I it would be helpful to see that

[34:57] cuz I don't have it memorized. I don't

[34:58] remember what all of them are so I'm

[34:59] just

[35:01] >> Is this the list you're referring to?

[35:02] >> Yes.

[35:03] >> Okay.

[35:03] >> Those are the things that add up to the

[35:05] 21,000.

[35:07] And the tax impact schedule

[35:09] uh

[35:13] » Where is the full one?

[35:17] » It is

[35:18] page

[35:22] The tax impact schedule's on on page 46.

[35:32] » Those are the other items that were on

[35:34] the list.

[35:35] >> The

[35:36] Are you talking about the original

[35:37] property tax impact schedule?

[35:39] >> Just to see the full list, not just the

[35:41] 21,000.

[35:42] >> That is not

[35:43] >> That's not in the

[35:44] >> That is not in the packet.

[35:46] >> So, what I'm seeing is that previous

[35:48] this page is on the screen right now are

[35:50] the things staff is recommending to

[35:52] remove to get us into budget.

[35:54] >> Yes, to complete the list.

[35:55] >> were on the previous page were the ones

[35:57] that you want to retain, the trees and I

[35:59] can't remember the other item.

[36:02] >> Youth City Council, those kind of

[36:03] things.

[36:06] So, if you look at page 44, I can walk

[36:08] you through

[36:10] uh So, if you look at page 44,

[36:13] um it shows

[36:15] the account number, the account name,

[36:19] and then

[36:20] what it was in the May tentative budget

[36:23] that was adopted, and then what we're

[36:26] suggesting is uh

[36:28] what the new one, the interim budget

[36:30] would be, which is the difference of

[36:32] 21,000. It shows where where that

[36:35] changes and what is what is decreasing

[36:38] out of that.

[36:39] That's the that's the suggested amount

[36:42] uh of difference there.

[36:44] The previous tax impact schedule

[36:47] um

[36:48] Lisa's going to grab that

[36:51] um to show the full list.

[36:58] 39,000? Yeah.

[37:05] This was in a

[37:08] one of a category

[37:11] list rather than a more detailed list with

[37:16] and these categories but the various

[37:18] categories and

[37:20] um

[37:21] were summarized rather than lined up in

[37:24] the list.

[37:30] So ultimately our suggestion is to

[37:34] reduce almost all of the line items that

[37:37] were already in there either either

[37:41] um

[37:43] either completely remove those or

[37:45] decrease those line items

[37:48] um the full amount that we originally

[37:50] had looked at

[37:52] or or more than we had originally looked

[37:54] at

[37:55] um and ultimately leave that $13,000

[38:00] as

[38:01] >> [clears throat]

[38:02] >> um

[38:03] stuff that would stay on the

[38:06] impact schedule

[38:07] meaning if we go through tourism

[38:09] taxation get to the end and say no we

[38:11] don't want to hold the rate. Um what we

[38:14] would leave on that is $13,000, 11,000

[38:17] of a transfer from the general fund to

[38:19] the rec fund and $2,000 um in trails and

[38:22] tree.

[38:24] That would remain on the impact schedule

[38:26] that we would hope still goes into the

[38:28] budget at the end of the process.

[38:30] But the 21,000 will have to be

[38:32] completely removed from the budget.

[38:36] Regardless of truth and taxation or not.

[38:39] >> Well, I guess the

[38:41] we can probably just make this kind of

[38:42] simple.

[38:44] Um

[38:45] Am I the only one who has a problem with

[38:48] these items versus

[38:51] staff pay?

[38:54] >> For me, I think staff pay is right where

[38:56] it needs to be as far as what we agreed

[38:58] to increase it. So,

[39:00] I would not be in favor of reducing that

[39:01] number.

[39:03] >> When did we agree to raise that? When we

[39:05] were talking through our other budget

[39:08] numbers.

[39:09] >> We haven't passed a budget number yet.

[39:11] >> That's That's what I'm trying to say is

[39:13] Okay, no, I understand. I understand.

[39:15] >> Yes, we haven't supported it's not

[39:16] official, but I support the staff

[39:19] increase.

[39:19] >> Okay. I see.

[39:23] Cuz if I'm the only one that's looking

[39:25] to do that, there's no reason to

[39:27] continue wasting everyone's valuable

[39:30] time.

[39:36] » I'm good with I'm good with staff's

[39:38] proposal. I don't get a vote.

[39:42] » This is a very small item for that, but

[39:44] on the staff uniforms and some of those

[39:46] things, we didn't we just match our

[39:48] current year's expenses though?

[39:50] It's very, very close. Are we now going

[39:52] to be upside down in those accounts?

[39:55] There were some line items that we did

[39:57] just match

[39:59] straight across.

[40:00] >> For majority of those, we did match. I

[40:03] did do an analysis and I and there were

[40:05] some that

[40:06] I adjusted, but it wasn't any of these

[40:09] line items that that increased.

[40:11] >> Okay.

[40:12] >> in FY 2020.

[40:13] >> isn't enough in there to cover it cuz

[40:14] like with uniforms and some of those

[40:16] supplies, and sure have contracts with

[40:18] those people. It's not like we can

[40:19] change that.

[40:20] >> Yeah, there's there's some things that

[40:24] some contracts that we that we may have

[40:26] to look at changing,

[40:28] but it's not a drastic change. Um that

[40:31] it should have is still should be

[40:32] covered under after the with the interim budget

[40:37] that we have.

[40:38] Um they should be covered enough, and

[40:40] that's why we try to look at different

[40:42] things to see where

[40:44] we would just reduce

[40:46] several line items rather than

[40:48] completely eliminate

[40:51] line items because there's some line

[40:53] items that we can't eliminate.

[40:55] And so we try to look at it as a as a

[40:57] whole group.

[40:58] Where can we make minimal adjustments to

[41:01] and still um have our balanced budget,

[41:05] um and where can we make those cuts?

[41:09] >> I could see

[41:11] you're spreading out the pain.

[41:13] >> Correct.

[41:13] >> Say what? Amongst all the groups.

[41:16] I'm going to

[41:17] step into it.

[41:19] >> [clears throat]

[41:20] >> And ask a just a general question about

[41:22] travel and training.

[41:24] Generally speaking, is there required

[41:27] travel training to maintain

[41:29] certifications or whatever that staff

[41:31] need for a given year?

[41:34] >> Yes.

[41:34] >> And is that the whole $21,000?

[41:37] Or is some of that

[41:39] um

[41:40] optional?

[41:42] I know the council goes and does the

[41:44] annual conference down south. If we were

[41:46] to forego that one year, that's money

[41:48] that we could save right there. Um not

[41:50] going to that that conference.

[41:54] So, would it be better to not shave it

[41:56] off on everybody,

[41:58] hold those other budgets, and take the

[42:00] greater sum out of I'm just using it as

[42:03] an example, but

[42:03] >> Yeah.

[42:04] >> First question is, is $21,000 the

[42:07] required training that staff require to

[42:10] maintain certifications, or can we

[42:12] forego a lot of this travel for 1 year?

[42:16] >> Well, this line item line item is travel

[42:18] and training specific to the fire

[42:20] department. It's not across the board.

[42:22] >> Okay.

[42:24] And so, that answers the first question.

[42:25] This is for certifications and main

[42:27] maintain certifications. Okay.

[42:30] >> Well, when we initially looked at

[42:33] this task of needing to create the

[42:35] impact schedule at the very first, we

[42:38] looked at line items that either had

[42:40] increased from last year to this year,

[42:42] or the trend was such that we felt like

[42:45] where we had budgeted in in the past had

[42:47] some room to decrease. We were not

[42:49] trying to get into

[42:51] anything that was essential at all. So,

[42:54] everything on this list is stuff that we

[42:57] feel like we can still maintain our our

[42:59] level of service to the community

[43:01] without significant loss, although we do

[43:04] need to shave a little bit here and

[43:06] there.

[43:06] >> So, to say it maybe in another way, the

[43:10] tentative numbers

[43:12] uh I'm going to stop there and I'll try

[43:13] to say it a different way. The increase

[43:15] between last year's budget and this

[43:17] proposed budget uh was for growth or new

[43:20] opportunities.

[43:22] We're suggesting to go back to the

[43:24] previous year's budget because we have

[43:26] that ability rather than to grow that

[43:28] budget.

[43:29] >> Generally speaking, I'd agree with that,

[43:31] but you'd want to look at every line

[43:33] item specifically to say what was it

[43:35] what was the budget last year, were we

[43:37] intending to increase it a certain

[43:39] amount, or are we

[43:41] shaving off a little bit from last year?

[43:42] >> not shaving below what the 3-year

[43:45] average of the previous budgets or

[43:46] previous expenses have been.

[43:48] >> Right. Correct.

[43:49] >> Okay. So, we're

[43:53] » Yeah, the first thing we looked at when

[43:55] we know knew that we needed to have the

[43:57] conversation of cutting budget was what

[44:00] had we intended to maybe grow or

[44:03] increase that we now need to maintain

[44:05] instead.

[44:06] That that was the first look, as well as

[44:08] where we spending money.

[44:10] Um

[44:11] let's say we have a line item that's a

[44:13] $10,000 number and our average over the

[44:15] last few years we've come in at 8,500 or

[44:18] 9,000. Okay, well then we feel like we can take 500 out of that

[44:22] or 1,000 out of that. Um and that's how

[44:25] we looked at it initially.

[44:27] >> Initially. But if we were to say take

[44:29] the 3-year averages,

[44:31] would you be able to shave more off of

[44:33] any one of these categories if we were

[44:34] to say, "Hey, take the 3-year average

[44:37] and use that number."

[44:38] >> Potentially.

[44:40] I don't I don't think

[44:43] there's I don't think there's a lot more

[44:44] wiggle room off of off of this.

[44:48] That's why we put it in there as stuff

[44:50] that we hoped to not pull out of the

[44:52] budget, right? The intent initially was

[44:54] we go through truth and taxation, we

[44:56] receive $1.35 million in property tax

[44:59] revenue, all of this remains in the

[45:01] budget. However, now we know that we're

[45:04] going to be 21,000 short, so we know we

[45:06] have to pull it out of the budget

[45:08] completely. It's no longer a we think we

[45:12] can get that at the end of the truth and

[45:13] taxation process. We know we won't. So

[45:16] now we have to cut $21,000 out of our

[45:18] expenses.

[45:20] So the first place to look is what we

[45:22] had hoped to include, but maybe not.

[45:24] Well, now it's a for sure not.

[45:27] >> Question that's out there from the

[45:28] public would be how

[45:30] It's a challenging question, but I'm not

[45:32] challenging it. Just asked to explain

[45:33] how did staff come up to these

[45:35] categories in which to choose the

[45:37] deductions? Cuz the budget has many many line items. How did How did these raise to the top? Were

[45:45] they

[45:46] significant increases from the previous

[45:48] budget or what was the rationale or the

[45:50] qualifications that identified these

[45:52] that was were faced in the

[45:54] >> Well, when the state law changed and

[45:56] said you have to identify that gap, we

[45:59] recognized it as $39,000 initially from

[46:02] our budget estimate to and so that was

[46:04] an estimate, 39,000.

[46:08] >> [clears throat]

[46:08] >> When we brought that forward, the

[46:09] council said, "Look at that across

[46:11] departments." So, we brought in each of

[46:13] our department heads and we talked

[46:15] through their individual budgets within

[46:18] their department of where they felt like

[46:21] there was room to shave so that it

[46:23] wouldn't significantly affect their department performance. And what

[46:29] they looked at first was where had we increased budget or where

[46:35] had our trends been lower than what we

[46:37] have as budget.

[46:39] We also had the philosophical

[46:41] conversation of where does where does

[46:43] staff pay fit into that cuz we do have

[46:45] in the budget right now market-based

[46:48] increases and uh

[46:52] from a staff perspective

[46:55] that felt like a priority to maintain

[46:57] service level

[46:59] with with our current employees and

[47:01] staffing. Again, philosophical

[47:03] conversation

[47:05] but I've heard from from councils in the

[47:07] past and council members today that they

[47:11] feel like staff needs to be

[47:14] within market so that we're not losing

[47:17] staff members. And the council's made

[47:19] decisions in the past to try to keep

[47:22] staff within market range. So,

[47:25] we did the market-based study has those

[47:27] recommendations in there.

[47:30] So, fundamentally we started with

[47:33] maintaining those market-based study

[47:36] decisions intact and looked at those

[47:39] other line items first. That that's the

[47:41] philosophy that was followed.

[47:43] >> Thank you.

[47:48] And Wayne, just at first glance cuz I

[47:50] was trying to find what we budget for

[47:52] like the one the one trip that we do

[47:56] and it that whole line item budget for

[47:58] the full council staff

[48:00] is $2,000 and that's both spring and

[48:03] fall. So, it could be reduced.

[48:07] I was just I thought it was a bigger

[48:08] number.

[48:08] >> Yeah, so it was nice.

[48:09] >> That's why I was That's why I was

[48:10] looking it up.

[48:13] » I think you're looking in the wrong

[48:14] place.

[48:16] >> Mhm, it says ULCT spring and fall

[48:18] conferences.

[48:19] >> Where at?

[48:20] >> Page 61.

[48:22] >> I mean, if it really I mean, this

[48:23] stipend that I get monthly

[48:25] I mean, I could donate that back.

[48:27] You know, I don't I don't have to take

[48:28] the $300 a month stipend. What is that?

[48:31] point

[48:33] $3,000

[48:36] You know, if I don't do that, there's part of it right there. That's

[48:39] 1/7 of it.

[48:41] >> If what?

[48:42] >> I don't take my stipend.

[48:44] I deny the stipends as that we get as as

[48:46] council members.

[48:48] That's one way to bring it down and then

[48:49] we'd have to shave all these other

[48:50] categories.

[48:52] I mean

[48:54] >> There's probably a lot more that already

[48:55] do that.

[48:56] >> Yeah. Well, I'm not saying everybody,

[48:58] but I'm just saying that's that's

[48:59] another place we can go that staff

[49:00] hadn't considered, but

[49:02] it's an option.

[49:05] If we're trying to reduce those

[49:06] increases.

[49:13] So, that's one. I'll donate mine back.

[49:15] He can have it.

[49:17] I'm serious.

[49:43] » Okay.

[49:45] Council, what would we like to do?

[49:48] >> Well,

[49:49] with Wayne's $3,000

[49:53] » gets down to $17,600

[49:56] we need to come up with.

[49:57] >> Well, maybe we can now buy snow

[49:59] supplies. No.

[50:01] They'll have to be emergency

[50:02] preparedness.

[50:07] And that's what I was trying to say is

[50:09] that uh we don't even have options up

[50:12] here. So, it's just us trying to

[50:13] brainstorm one of the things that we

[50:15] could do

[50:16] because the only ones that we were given

[50:17] was this.

[50:19] And if this was something that came,

[50:20] like I said, from the committees or from

[50:24] groups together that just decided these,

[50:27] it should have been more than just

[50:30] those

[50:31] so that there was a selection process

[50:34] for

[50:35] the city council

[50:37] uh to be able to say, "No, this is where

[50:40] we deem the money should have been

[50:42] spent."

[50:43] >> In in their defense,

[50:45] these were listed when we had

[50:47] the public hearings.

[50:49] for the

[50:49] >> I argued on them then, too. And I argued

[50:51] that we ought to have a discussion about

[50:53] the salary instead. That disappeared

[50:56] real quick.

[50:57] Um and

[51:00] there's still other ones. So, I I'm not

[51:01] trying to attack them. And that's when

[51:03] every time we bring up this

[51:06] bloody subject, it's either or that now

[51:08] we're fighting against staff.

[51:11] I'm asking honest questions is what I

[51:13] feel my responsibility is

[51:16] to

[51:17] honestly look at what the city residents

[51:21] are getting out of each one of these

[51:23] budgets. And when we increase the

[51:25] amount,

[51:26] are they getting an increase in services

[51:29] or is it going to

[51:33] internal?

[51:35] So,

[51:36] like I said, I I I appreciate the

[51:39] discussion that we've had.

[51:41] I understand that I'm

[51:42] lone guy on this. So,

[51:44] uh I think all we have to do then is

[51:46] just go into the vote to approve this.

[51:52] I'll say my no and we can move on.

[52:00] Okay.

[52:08] I'm ready to

[52:08] >> Yeah, Mayor I move to approve resolution

[52:11] 2624 adopting fiscal year 2027 interim

[52:14] budget with the amendment to have staff

[52:19] account for Wayne's donation.

[52:26] » I don't care where you take it from

[52:28] virtually. I think I'm 100% in line with

[52:31] whatever what you have recommended here.

[52:33] So

[52:34] if you want to subtract 3,000 from

[52:36] 8,000, whatever you feel is the most

[52:37] important, that's that's my motion.

[52:41] » I know we have a motion on the table.

[52:42] Can I ask a question though? So

[52:44] obviously I wasn't here for the meetings

[52:46] when we had this discussion. So

[52:49] you city council, we were

[52:52] starting it for the fall

[52:54] to run concurrently with the school

[52:55] years.

[52:57] But knowing that that was taken down to

[52:59] 1,000, I was like, okay. But now it's

[53:01] being abolished completely. Is everybody

[53:03] okay with this?

[53:05] Cuz this is the first time like with

[53:07] this packet is the first discussion

[53:09] we've had about. So

[53:11] if that's the direction of the council,

[53:13] then that's the direction of the

[53:14] council. But that's really hard for me

[53:16] to try to

[53:18] >> If we change

[53:18] >> fundraise $1,000.

[53:20] >> city council budget, the youth city

[53:21] council could come right back on.

[53:23] The problem we have is we've never spent

[53:26] as long as a few people been on council,

[53:29] we've never spent our budget city

[53:30] council budget

[53:32] cuz there's been more than two or three

[53:34] that have always donated their time.

[53:36] And but yet we still are

[53:39] kind of obligated to budget it because

[53:40] that's not the way it will always be.

[53:43] And so that amount is also he still

[53:44] budgets that amount.

[53:46] Even with Wayne's generosity, other

[53:48] people's generosity, that that amount

[53:50] still gets budgeted.

[53:52] Um but it could come right back on with

[53:55] that amount if if everybody would prefer

[53:57] to have the youth council still have a

[53:59] $2,500 budget.

[54:02] Or even put a $1,000 budget in there for

[54:04] it or whatever.

[54:06] >> I and I will go from the direction of

[54:08] the council. I'm just saying like as as

[54:10] it as is I will not move forward in the

[54:13] fall

[54:14] because there's no point in me

[54:15] recruiting and creating a program

[54:19] to start September when I have no money

[54:21] until this is approved and or added back

[54:24] to after we have our thing our

[54:27] truth and taxation in August. So my

[54:30] hands are tied for this year

[54:32] if we do this. And if that's the

[54:33] direction, I'm fine with that. We can

[54:36] try again another time, but

[54:39] that's where I'm at.

[54:40] >> assume too.

[54:41] >> Do we have an

[54:41] >> Do we have the interest? That's what I

[54:43] mean.

[54:43] >> That's yeah, if we have the interest I

[54:44] think

[54:45] >> interest I don't think I don't feel like

[54:46] the council should go out and recruit.

[54:49] I think we should have youth that want

[54:51] to be involved.

[54:53] Otherwise, we have

[54:56] a real hard time getting them involved

[54:59] to do things.

[54:59] >> Sure. I I feel like um we've already

[55:03] changed the youth city council budget

[55:05] from what it was and transferred that

[55:07] money over to help supplement the city

[55:10] activities with staff.

[55:13] So to me that's part of that

[55:16] part of the issue of having kids come to

[55:19] run those events. That has been taken

[55:22] care of, so it would change what the

[55:24] city council looks like.

[55:26] What their responsibilities and roles

[55:28] and everything they do in the city

[55:30] changes

[55:32] with that move over to having staff paid

[55:35] for. So

[55:38] cuz because I agree that was an issue in

[55:40] the past is getting relying on enough of

[55:42] the youth to come help run all those

[55:44] things.

[55:49] I just need to know what to do, guys. I

[55:50] like

[55:51] >> You could you could definitely cover it.

[55:52] I mean, with just the one line item that

[55:55] Wayne referred to, we currently budget

[55:57] 27,000. Our actual expenses are 21,600.

[56:00] That would reduce to 18,600.

[56:03] And you're budgeting 27,000. If we

[56:05] wanted to reduce that line item, it

[56:06] wouldn't be a problem.

[56:10] » You're talking about the city council

[56:11] budget.

[56:12] >> Mhm.

[56:12] >> But it's a it's a one-time thing.

[56:15] Year to year.

[56:16] >> Yeah, but

[56:16] >> Right.

[56:23] » Okay, we have a motion on the table.

[56:26] >> The motion was

[56:27] >> that decides if you want me to redraw

[56:30] withdraw my emotion my emotion.

[56:32] >> I would I would prefer

[56:33] >> you put something in there for

[56:36] youth council.

[56:38] >> Okay. Uh I'll amend my motion to uh

[56:41] refund youth council with the generosity

[56:44] of Mr. Windsor.

[56:48] » Amend it to what?

[56:49] >> So, basically, we're going to reduce the

[56:51] city council budget item by my amount, but we're going to put 2,500

[56:57] back into the youth city council line

[56:59] item.

[57:01] It'll be a net difference

[57:03] to the city's benefit.

[57:04] >> Correct.

[57:05] >> I'm giving back more than what the city

[57:07] council or youth city council is

[57:08] budgeting for. So, I think it stays

[57:10] whole.

[57:12] >> I'll second that motion.

[57:15] >> We have a motion and second by

[57:17] Councilman Windsor.

[57:18] Do roll call starting with Councilman

[57:20] Halverson.

[57:20] >> Aye.

[57:26] >> No.

[57:26] >> Aye.

[57:29] >> Okay, 4-1. Motion carries. Thank you.

[57:35] Next item, resolution 26-25,

[57:38] Riverdale senior citizen agreement.

[57:42] An agreement put together with Riverdale

[57:44] now on our

[57:45] uh senior citizens

[57:47] being able to go down and use our

[57:49] facility.

[57:50] And just need to pass that agreement.

[57:54] Anyone have any questions on that? If

[57:55] not, we'll look for a motion to approve

[57:58] this.

[58:00] » So, just quick question. This looks like

[58:02] we initially put um do a $300 and then

[58:05] they just tally that difference up to us

[58:07] and we pay it within

[58:09] I'm trying to remember what it said on

[58:10] there.

[58:12] Was it annually or within a year?

[58:14] >> It's annually.

[58:14] >> Annually.

[58:15] >> Okay.

[58:16] >> So, the $300 would essentially cover the

[58:20] current pass members. And then each year

[58:25] they do a a pass blitz essentially in

[58:28] January, first part of February. And so,

[58:31] they'll know basically by February 15th

[58:34] how many citizens of South Weber have

[58:36] taken advantage of the of the offer and

[58:39] they can then tell us exactly what that

[58:41] number is and we'll be able to we'll be

[58:44] able to pay that and then use that as

[58:46] kind of our budget

[58:48] bellwether for the next budget season.

[58:50] >> Okay. Thank you.

[58:52] >> Just one quick question. I thought that

[58:54] we had agreed that we were going to put

[58:55] some sort of

[58:56] cap just in case we saw some huge

[58:59] increase or something like that. Was

[59:01] that not discussed?

[59:02] >> The cap that we had discussed was so

[59:04] much higher than these numbers that it didn't make it in.

[59:09] Are you still interested in that? Cuz

[59:11] >> Well, I just I guess I was thinking of

[59:12] it from a protection perspective, but if

[59:14] we don't if we feel like the risk is

[59:17] ridiculously low or statistically

[59:20] irrelevant, then maybe I'm overthinking

[59:22] it.

[59:24] >> It's basically $30 per

[59:27] pass member.

[59:29] >> And is that an annual fee?

[59:30] >> Yes, and we currently have 10.

[59:32] >> Okay.

[59:40] » Yeah, yeah, go ahead and make a motion

[59:41] to win.

[59:41] >> All right, I make a motion to approve

[59:43] resolution 2625 Riverdale Senior Center

[59:46] agreement.

[59:47] >> Second.

[59:48] >> And motion second by Councilman Windsor,

[59:51] we'll do real roll call vote starting

[59:53] with Councilman Windsor.

[59:54] >> I.

[59:59] » And motion carries. Thank you.

[1:00:02] Next item resolution 26-26

[1:00:06] audit services agreement.

[1:00:10] Any discussion on this?

[1:00:17] » The admin committee has reviewed the

[1:00:19] options, we have reviewed the selection

[1:00:21] process, and the method to which staff

[1:00:24] went through and concur with staff's

[1:00:26] recommendation.

[1:00:29] From a committee perspective.

[1:00:38] » You want me to repeat that whole thing?

[1:00:43] » From a committee perspective, we

[1:00:45] recommend approval.

[1:00:47] >> Okay.

[1:00:51] » It's too many chips in your ears.

[1:00:55] » Move to approve resolution 2626 for the

[1:00:57] audit services agreement as submitted.

[1:01:00] >> Second.

[1:01:01] >> Okay, motion second by Councilman

[1:01:03] Halverson, we'll do roll call with

[1:01:05] Councilman Halverson.

[1:01:05] >> I.

[1:01:09] >> And motion carries.

[1:01:12] You.

[1:01:14] Next is reports, any new business?

[1:01:17] >> Mayor, I'd like to ask if we could

[1:01:19] schedule with our state leaders

[1:01:24] to have them come in here and speak to

[1:01:26] the council with regards to the state

[1:01:29] legislations and their in active

[1:01:31] inability to make changes to dust and

[1:01:34] dust mitigation in the state. And maybe

[1:01:37] listen and give us some answers as to

[1:01:40] why change can't happen as the citizens

[1:01:42] are continuing to suffer with this dust

[1:01:44] problem. Uh

[1:01:46] Senate leader

[1:01:48] House leader and then our local

[1:01:50] representatives.

[1:01:51] I can make the contact but it probably

[1:01:53] should come from a letterhead from the

[1:01:54] mayor and city manager.

[1:01:57] >> I think we're all more than willing to

[1:01:58] do that.

[1:02:01] >> Let's do it. I love that idea.

[1:02:03] >> I can I can help write the letter if

[1:02:04] you'd like or um

[1:02:06] review it with you but uh

[1:02:08] We I just think we need to get some

[1:02:09] action and right now we're not getting

[1:02:11] any action from the the pit themselves.

[1:02:13] They're not going to do anything unless

[1:02:15] they're compelled to do something. The

[1:02:16] state legislature is afraid to act

[1:02:18] because it's a it's a

[1:02:20] um largest lobby.

[1:02:22] What's that?

[1:02:23] >> Largest lobby.

[1:02:24] >> Uh yeah, largest

[1:02:27] it's it's something they don't want to

[1:02:28] take on but

[1:02:29] we've seen it here. The water's not the

[1:02:31] answer. They don't have enough water and

[1:02:33] they're not going to be compelled to

[1:02:35] enclose or to shelter it unless we get

[1:02:37] legislation to make some changes.

[1:02:40] So that would be my new business if we

[1:02:42] could arrange that.

[1:02:43] >> Okay.

[1:02:45] We can do that.

[1:02:50] » I look forward to that, Wayne. Thank

[1:02:51] you.

[1:02:52] >> Anyone else with new business? Dave, you

[1:02:54] have any new business?

[1:02:56] >> Just reports.

[1:02:58] >> Just to report.

[1:03:00] >> Okay, let's do reports and committee

[1:03:03] assignments.

[1:03:05] Wayne, you want to start with your

[1:03:06] committees?

[1:03:08] >> Uh our committees are standing

[1:03:10] ready to meet and discuss anything Steph

[1:03:13] would like to have discussed at this

[1:03:14] moment.

[1:03:16] We have not had a meeting in the last

[1:03:17] couple weeks.

[1:03:19] >> Jeremy?

[1:03:20] >> Nothing new for me. Thank you.

[1:03:22] >> Bill?

[1:03:25] » I'm with Jeremy, so nothing new. Thanks.

[1:03:28] >> Angie?

[1:03:29] >> Uh happy to report that we have

[1:03:32] um

[1:03:34] met with the train club

[1:03:37] I want to say religiously.

[1:03:39] Is that word?

[1:03:40] We've been very dedicated meeting with

[1:03:41] them and we've come to resolution with

[1:03:43] their contract. So, we have met the

[1:03:45] deadline of June 30th.

[1:03:48] It will come before council in July.

[1:03:50] First meeting in July. It's still on

[1:03:52] schedule for that.

[1:03:53] >> Only Only meeting in July.

[1:03:56] >> First and only, most important in July.

[1:04:00] And that's all I have to report on.

[1:04:01] Shayla

[1:04:02] >> It's fantastic.

[1:04:03] >> It's been great. It's been wonderful.

[1:04:04] >> It's been really good. We appreciate

[1:04:06] >> Very much.

[1:04:08] >> The new leadership there at the train

[1:04:09] club has been great.

[1:04:11] >> Sure. So, um basically we

[1:04:14] I just want everybody to know we have

[1:04:16] had

[1:04:17] no ill feelings in any of these

[1:04:19] meetings. It's been wonderful. So, we've

[1:04:20] been able to move forward and talked

[1:04:24] about the weed

[1:04:26] maintenance responsibilities and how

[1:04:28] really the city's going to take that on

[1:04:30] and they can focus on the tracks. Um the

[1:04:32] safety issues were

[1:04:35] almost all complete last time we met and

[1:04:37] I know they were working on some more

[1:04:38] again. So, I don't have updates on that

[1:04:41] specific item, but they've been really

[1:04:43] good at addressing where

[1:04:45] uh their responsibilities are and how

[1:04:47] they can maintain the safety and the

[1:04:49] city will maintain the property. Um

[1:04:55] A a safety audit checklist every time

[1:04:57] they run their

[1:04:58] um trains. Just different implementing

[1:05:01] different procedures to make sure that

[1:05:02] everybody is on the same page and

[1:05:04] everything is safe and we're moving

[1:05:06] forward. So,

[1:05:10] I don't know. That's what I'm saying.

[1:05:11] They've done several inspections.

[1:05:13] >> red tagged until a reinspection, but

[1:05:15] they're working on those safety audit

[1:05:16] items.

[1:05:21] » That's all I have.

[1:05:23] >> Uh

[1:05:24] municipal utilities met to uh we haven't

[1:05:27] done anything but the public works for

[1:05:29] quite some time, but uh that was one of

[1:05:31] the items we did talk about. If you've

[1:05:33] driven by the retention basin was the

[1:05:36] only thing left as an outstanding item.

[1:05:38] Everything else is pretty well done.

[1:05:39] There's some couple punch list things

[1:05:41] that Mark for warranty has had them do.

[1:05:44] Um sod went in yesterday, I believe, or

[1:05:46] it was this morning.

[1:05:47] >> It's in, yep.

[1:05:48] >> It's in.

[1:05:49] Uh you'll drive by the park strip. It is

[1:05:51] our responsibility, the park strip

[1:05:53] there.

[1:05:54] Um

[1:05:55] but yeah, they did get the sprinklers

[1:05:56] in, grass is in, so they were given a

[1:05:59] deadline of the end of the month, and it

[1:06:01] looks like they're going to meet that.

[1:06:03] So, we also reviewed our other uh

[1:06:06] Keppel facility projects and projects.

[1:06:09] One of the big ones is sidewalks.

[1:06:11] Those of you have seen, I drove around,

[1:06:13] we started on that end of town. They are

[1:06:15] getting done.

[1:06:16] And they're working their way this way

[1:06:18] with a priority list, so.

[1:06:20] >> Awesome.

[1:06:21] >> That's all I have to report.

[1:06:23] >> Thank you, Blair. Shaylee, would you

[1:06:24] like to say anything

[1:06:27] about our uh

[1:06:29] concert in the park coming up in 2 days?

[1:06:32] >> Yeah, we have a concert in the park

[1:06:34] coming up in 2 days.

[1:06:35] >> [laughter]

[1:06:37] >> Uh Jake Witt is returning from last

[1:06:39] year. Uh it starts from at 7:00 and ends

[1:06:41] at 8:30. Celeste has been awesome and

[1:06:44] think she I don't know if she left, but

[1:06:46] she's been awesome marketing for the

[1:06:47] event, so I appreciate her, but uh we

[1:06:50] have two food trucks coming. One is

[1:06:52] a taco truck and one is a gyro truck,

[1:06:55] which we're excited about, and we also

[1:06:56] have bouncy houses, so

[1:06:58] the more the merrier.

[1:07:01] >> Hope everyone comes out.

[1:07:03] Dave.

[1:07:06] >> Couple of things. Uh Mayor mentioned the

[1:07:08] idea of only having one meeting in July.

[1:07:12] We've got a few items scheduled for the

[1:07:14] July 14th meeting, but the way things

[1:07:17] are lining up, we don't have things that

[1:07:20] are lining up for July 28th. So, the

[1:07:23] suggestion is to cancel that meeting

[1:07:25] unless something

[1:07:26] comes up urgent over the next few weeks

[1:07:28] that we would then need to meet, but

[1:07:31] that was the reference there. I want

[1:07:32] that to be a heads-up. The mayor, Brad,

[1:07:35] and I are meeting tomorrow morning with

[1:07:37] representatives from Zion's Bank to do

[1:07:39] our bond rating presentation to Moody's.

[1:07:43] We essentially tell the story of the

[1:07:46] city and our project and what that bond

[1:07:48] refunding is, and then they will tell us

[1:07:51] that we are triple A or whatever. We

[1:07:53] hope that it's the best it can be,

[1:07:55] right? Cuz that will affect our interest

[1:07:58] rate. We should have our

[1:08:01] rating back by July 8th, and then we are

[1:08:03] going to market sell those bonds July

[1:08:06] 23rd. So, that's our schedule for the

[1:08:09] bond refunding at this point. What's

[1:08:10] your current rating?

[1:08:12] So, the rating is based on the actual

[1:08:15] bond at the time. So, the bond is rated,

[1:08:18] not necessarily the city at the whole,

[1:08:19] but it was a double A minus 16 years

[1:08:22] ago.

[1:08:24] Approximately.

[1:08:25] The bonds that we've done since 2010

[1:08:29] have been a negotiated sale, not a

[1:08:30] market sale. So, this will be the first

[1:08:32] market sale since

[1:08:34] 2010 from what I understand.

[1:08:37] And then the last thing that I want to

[1:08:38] report is that our we had 11 volunteers

[1:08:43] respond to our America 250 planning when

[1:08:46] we submitted that to the public.

[1:08:49] Seven of which said that they were

[1:08:50] willing to be part of the planning

[1:08:52] committee, and four said that they'd be

[1:08:53] interested in helping on the day of an

[1:08:55] event or or in other ways. Of those

[1:08:58] seven, four were able to attend our

[1:09:00] first meeting based on schedules and we

[1:09:03] had a really positive meeting Shelley

[1:09:06] myself and and those four volunteers.

[1:09:08] They were excellent had some really

[1:09:10] wonderful ideas.

[1:09:12] We have now focused our attention into

[1:09:15] just a handful like the council directed

[1:09:18] us to

[1:09:19] but there is still some outstanding

[1:09:21] concepts that we need to

[1:09:24] get together and kind of flush out.

[1:09:27] I don't necessarily want to publish what

[1:09:29] the plans are cuz they're still very

[1:09:31] early but there's some really cool

[1:09:33] things that that I think the community

[1:09:36] can get excited about in terms of our

[1:09:39] celebration of America 250 and and so

[1:09:42] just look for those details as as we

[1:09:45] publish them and as we get them out

[1:09:46] there.

[1:09:47] We do recognize that July 4th is is the

[1:09:50] actual 250 of the Declaration of

[1:09:52] Independence and our timeline is such

[1:09:54] where we're not necessarily focusing

[1:09:56] right around that day. It's more of the

[1:09:59] year long celebration and and the last 6

[1:10:02] months of the year. We do recognize that

[1:10:04] September is always Constitution month

[1:10:07] and so we think that we can we can

[1:10:09] utilize September a little bit more with

[1:10:11] Constitution month

[1:10:13] as well as hoping to piggyback off of

[1:10:16] the gatherings that take place with

[1:10:18] Country Fair Days. So again some really good progress was made by that

[1:10:23] and and I appreciate the idea from the

[1:10:25] council to get a to get a volunteer

[1:10:28] group together that the energy there was

[1:10:31] really really neat and people that have

[1:10:33] some some really cool

[1:10:36] connections and history with you

[1:10:38] American founding and things like that.

[1:10:40] So I hope that that comes out over the

[1:10:41] next 6 months amongst the community

[1:10:43] because

[1:10:45] I felt that on Thursday morning and it was really cool very patriotic

[1:10:48] for me. So I appreciate that.

[1:10:52] Yes.

[1:10:53] Yeah.

[1:10:58] So I

[1:10:59] over promised saying we could hang the

[1:11:01] flags on the overpass cuz they'd have to

[1:11:03] be manned.

[1:11:04] And the wind will blow them up onto the

[1:11:06] road.

[1:11:07] However, we've been working on solutions

[1:11:10] and I met with

[1:11:12] General RV and Maverick and both of

[1:11:14] agreed to let us hang our flags from

[1:11:16] their signs

[1:11:17] for the 4th of July.

[1:11:19] And so, I'll be working out the

[1:11:21] logistics on that, but just wanted to

[1:11:22] give you that update that we we're not

[1:11:24] doing the overpass thing, but we're

[1:11:25] going to work with Maverick and General

[1:11:27] RV to get our flags up onto their signs.

[1:11:29] So,

[1:11:29] >> All right.

[1:11:30] >> Thanks, Bernie.

[1:11:31] >> Thank you.

[1:11:35] » All for me.

[1:11:36] >> Are you finished, Dave?

[1:11:37] >> Yep.

[1:11:40] » We have Mark I forgot to mention that

[1:11:42] we've got Mark Bell sitting in for Jamie

[1:11:44] this evening. We appreciate him coming

[1:11:45] up and being part of our council

[1:11:48] tonight. Thank you for coming.

[1:11:51] Uh

[1:11:52] with that, we'll look for a motion to

[1:11:53] adjourn.

[1:11:54] >> Motion

[1:11:56] >> Seconded.

[1:11:57] >> All in favor, say I.

[1:11:58] >> I.

2026. 06.23 South Weber City Council Meeting

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