Agenda
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Zoom Link:
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I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
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Roll Call
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Regular Town Board Meeting of December 9, 2025 at 1:00PM
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Regular Town Board Meeting of December 18, 2025 at 1:00PM
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Town Board Organizational Meeting of January 5, 2026 at 1:00PM
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IV. COMMUNICATIONS
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A. Public Notices
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V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
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1. Public Hearing to Consider the Acquisition of 1950 Meadow Lane, in the Village of Southampton and Amend CPF Project Plan and the CPF Management and Stewardship Plan to Include the Property
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2. Public Hearing to Amend Town Code Chapter 312 (Vehicles and Traffic), Article XV (Turning movements), Section 312-72.2 Right turns prohibited)
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3. Public Hearing Amending Town Code Chapter 312 (Vehicles and Traffic) Article III (Stop Sign Intersections) Section 312-9 (East Quogue, Tiana and Hampton Bays Hamlets to Shinnecock Canal) Subsection A (North of Montauk Highway)
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4. Public Hearing for a Local Law to Enact a new Article VI B entitled "Hotel Development Overlay (HDO)" within Chapter 330 (Zoning) of the Town Code and Add Sections 34.5 through 34.10 to Enable the Discretionary Review of Small-Scale Tourist Accommodations in Highway Business (HB) Zoning Districts.
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VI. PUBLIC PORTION
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VII. TOWN BOARD RESOLUTIONS
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01. Agreements, Contracts, Leases
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RES-2026-0033 Award and Authorize Supervisor to Sign Contract with Quintal Contracting Corp. for Tree Clearing at Plant No. 3
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RES-2026-0041 Authorize Purchases from W.B. Mason Co., Inc. using Suffolk County and Eastern Suffolk BOCES Contracts
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RES-2026-0043 Award and Authorize Supervisor to Sign Contract with Saks Utility Solutions, LLC for Water Meter Replacement
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RES-2026-0088 Authorize Acceptance of Donation of Abandoned Vehicle from Police Department
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RES-2026-0092 Authorize the Supervisor to Sign any and all Documents with iWorQ Systems Inc for Cloud Hosted Software
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RES-2026-0093 Authorize Supervisor to Sign any and all Documents with Sourcepass Contemporary, LLC to Provide Immediate Assistance on a Bank Hours Basis to Resolve Town's Network Connectivity Issues
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RES-2026-0094 Authorize the Supervisor to Execute any and all Documents Pertaining to the 2026 Transportation Contract with Suffolk County Office for the Aging
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RES-2026-0095 Authorize Supervisor to Execute a Contract with Suffolk County Office for the Aging for the Home Maintenance Repair Program
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RES-2026-0096 Authorize Supervisor to Sign a Contract with L.K. McLean Associates Engineering and Surveying DPC for Professional Engineering, Services Associated with the Design and Permitting of Stormwater Quality Improvements at Shore Road and Yacht Club Drive in Remsenburg, NY
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RES-2026-0097 Authorize Change Order for Professional Services Related to the Engineering Services for the Penny Park with L.K. McLean Associates Engineering and Surveying D.P.C.
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RES-2026-0098 Recall and Amend Town Board Resolution No. 2025-1529 Authorize the Supervisor to Execute an Agreement with Long Island Telecommunications & Electronic Services, Inc. for Portable Radios at the Hampton Bays Water District
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RES-2026-099 Authorize the Supervisor to Submit a Grant Application for the 2025-26 Local Government Efficiency Grant Program for Regional Marine Operations Shared Services Project
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RES-2026-100 Authorize the Supervisor to Submit a Grant Application for the 2025-26 Local Government Efficiency Grant Program for Regional Stormwater Infrastructure Maintenance Shared Services Project
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RES-2026-0103 Recall and Amend Town Board Resolution 2025-1108 Authorize the Supervisor to Sign a Contract Extension with York Analytical Laboratories, Inc. to Provide Water Analysis to the Hampton Bays Water District
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RES-2026-0108 Authorize the Purchase of Road Salt, Treated Salt, & Emergency Standby Road Salt from the New York State OGS Contract from Atlantic Salt, Inc. and Apalachee LLC
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RES-2026-0109 Authorize Supervisor to Sign Contract Extension with United Metro Energy Corp. for Ultra Low Diesel Fuel
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RES-2026-0030 2026 Notice to Bidders for Glass Crusher at North Sea Transfer Station
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RES-2026-0032 Notice Bidders for Street Sign Blanks, Reflectorized Sheeting, and Traffic Marking
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RES-2026-0081 Authorize First-Time Homebuyers Down Payment Assistance Funding from the Community Housing Fund
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RES-2026-0086 Authorize the Town Attorney to Accept Settlement from National Union Fire Insurance Company for Damage to a Southampton Town Playground
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RES-2026-0003 Resolution of Adoption Amending Town Code Chapter 312 (Vehicles and Traffic), Article XV (Turning movements), Section 312-72.2 (Right turns prohibited)
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RES-2026-0004 Resolution of Adoption Amending Town Code Chapter 312 (Vehicles and Traffic) to Add Three New Stop Signs in Hampton Bays, South of Montauk Highway
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RES-2026-0005 Resolution of Adoption Amending Town Code Chapter 312 (Vehicles and Traffic) for the Purpose of Removing Three Yield Intersections in Hampton Bays South of Montauk Highway
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RES-2026-0006 Resolution of Adoption Amending Town Code Chapter 312 (Vehicles and Traffic) Article III (Stop Sign Intersections) Section 312-9 (East Quogue, Tiana and Hampton Bays Hamlets to Shinnecock Canal) Subsection A (North of Montauk Highway)
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RES-2026-0002 Authorizes Peconic Bay Region Community Preservation Fund Tax Refund To Thoroughbred Title Services LLC Regarding Tax Overpayment
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RES-2026-0044 Authorize the Installation of Three New Street Lights on Noyack Road in Noyac
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RES-2026-0083 Appoint Frank Belson to Custodial Worker II in Municipal Works
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RES-2026-0080 Appoint Craig Carroll to Maintenance Mechanic II in Municipal Works
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RES-2026-0082 Appoint Robert McConnell to Custodial Worker II in Municipal Works
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RES-2026-0085 Appoint Brandon Martinez Jimenez to Sanitation Helper in Waste Management
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RES-2026-0101 Eric Bentsen- Accept Retirement
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RES-2026-0105 Resolution Setting Public Hearing to Amend Chapter 111 in Connection with Special Parking permits
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RES-2026-0102 Authorize the Acquisition of a Historic Preservation and Conservation Easement on Property located at 11 Walnut Avenue, in the Hamlet of East Quogue and Amend the Community Preservation Project Plan and the CPF Management and Stewardship Plan to Include Said Property
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10. Walk Ons
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VIII. CLOSING
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Probably. On your good. All
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right, well, we're ready. I'd like to call the meeting
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to order. Please rise and join me in the pledge.
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Of Latin, I believe. To the flag of the United
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States of America. For which it stands. One nation under
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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you
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for coming, everyone. Madam Clerk, would you please read the
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role? Present.
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Here. All right. Thank you. I moved to approve the
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minutes of the regular town board meeting of December. 9,
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2025. 2nd. All in favor? Aye. I moved to approve
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the minutes of the regular town. Board meeting of December
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18, 2025 2nd. All in favor? Aye. And moved to
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approve the minutes. Of the town board's organizational meeting on
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January. 5th. 2026. 2nd. All in favor? Aye. All right.
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Madam Clerk, would you please read the communication? Certainly. We
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have received the following communications in the office of the
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tower clerk. We have received public notices. For many years.
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Association of Towns for notice of 2026 nearly elected town
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officials school. In January in Albany and also other dates
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and corners. New York State Department of Public service notice
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of 2026 Winter preparedness workshop webinar. New York State Liquor
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Author Authority 30 day advanced notice from the listed entity.
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Notice of adoption. Household notice of public hearing. There was
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a. Village of West Hampton beach. My mic is on
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now. Zoning Board of Appeals hearing for 104 Main Street,
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West Hampton beach. Correspondence regarding the following topics planning board
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matter of 94 Dune Road, East Quag. Speeding traffic, old
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country road, East Quag and the Zoning Board of Appeals
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application to be heard on January 15. For Percy Avenue,
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West Hampton. The following bid and RFP submissions were received
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on Wednesday, December 17 a bid for 2025 water meter
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replacement. And a bid for 2025 tree clearing at plant
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number three on Thursday, December 18. An RFP for 93
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Butter Lane Bridge, Hampton Farming proposal was received as well
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as an RFP for 834 townline road, sagaponic farming proposal.
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In that concursive communications for this meeting's agenda. Thank you.
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I have two walk on resolution. The first is town
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board resolution id number 2026 one five nine. To authorize
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the supervisor. To execute a contract with all island testing
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Associates, Inc. For professional services related to special building inspections.
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At the West Hampton Community Center. And the second is
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town board resolution id number 2026 one six two. Which
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is the warrant? Number one. First one of the year.
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And I moved to add these two resolutions to the
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agenda. Second. All in favor? Aye. That brings us to
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the public hearing. Madam Clerk, would you please read the
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notice of the first. Public hearing. Public hearing number one
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to consider the acquisition of 1950 Meadow Lane in the
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village of Southampton and Amend CPA project plan and CPF
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management stewardship plan to include the property.
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Good afternoon and happy new year. Town board, madam supervisor.
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Nice to be here today for this specific property. Jacqueline
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Fenlin, CPF manager for the town of Southampton. Today we
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are here. As. Town clerk. Shermeyer provided for the property
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at 1950 Meadow Lane in the village of Southampton. This
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is known as Suffolk county tax UMP number 9421 111.1.
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So the owner is Francis arcatz. They have expressed interest
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in selling the property for 25,800,000. Dollars to the town
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of Southampton. This property is not included in the project
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plan, so this public hearing is also before you here
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today to include this in the project plan. It is
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a recommendation that this property should be included in the
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community preservation project plan designated under the village in hamlet
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Greens parks, recreation and open space target area. This property
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is unique because it contains maritime dunes, maritime beaches, and
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will preserve valuable shoreline along the Atlantic Ocean, which is
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serving coastal resiliency objectives and will further provide public access
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to the beach and Atlantic Ocean, thereby providing active and
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passive recreational opportunities for town residents. This. Also will help
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maintain the coastal dune system. If you can see on
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the aerial behind me, the village owns properties to the
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east and to the north. So by preserving this pattern,
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we are also assembling more protected area within the vicinity
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and. Building upon the existing. Coastal dune system, and it
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is very healthy, other than obviously the existing disturbance related
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to the house. The dune system is unique and very
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and contains rare species. This also is very important because
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of general state requirements and state recommendations for coastal resiliency.
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Some may have heard of coastal retreat. This also helps
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build and protect residents from further impacts from sea level
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rise or possible storm impacts as well by reducing wave
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generations during those times. So this is very helpful on
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many fronts. We're getting recreation, we're preserving coastal maritime dunes
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and also coastal resiliency strategies for the town. So we're
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in a rare opportunity where we can get this done.
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And I'm very excited to present this property to you
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today. Director Fenlin, would you. Mind just elaborating on the
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concept of coastal retreat really briefly. Yeah. So it's a
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general recommendation. Due to higher storm events and more catastrophic
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storm events. Obviously one of the most recent ones that
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was very catastrophic was Hurricane Sandy, even though that didn't
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have as much of an ocean. Impact we did see
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very high. I guess it would be like high tides
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associated in wave impact. So the general concept for coastal
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retreat is to remove any human impacts or human structures
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from that area. To allow, basically nature to help calm
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those storms, basically. And then move people out of harm's?
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Way. So basically removing elements of structural and even utilities.
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The whole concept is try to retreat. From that so
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that we don't have to. Spend millions to rebuild, possibly
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in those locations. And I would just say in terms
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of what this board, the conversation that this board has
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been having. We've been talking about ways we can target
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our CPF program to advance some of these coastal resiliency
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issues. And certainly what we're doing with the Sim project
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as well. It's exactly what we're doing and this project.
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Is not within the per se. It's a little bit
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east of it, but it's. On the east side of
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the Shunikak go canal inlet, but. It's certainly similar type
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of analysis and situation. Jackie, could you just go into
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a little bit for the future of this property? When
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we take title to it, sure. Who's being able to
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use it, what it's going to become, what's the future
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for it. Yeah. So as it's being preserved with CPF
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funds, it is. Very important. One of the aspects of
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CPF legislation and the town code is to provide public
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access. So we envision this, and this has been discussed
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with the town board that this will be an access
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in a small parking area for town residents. We have
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to work after the acquisition and the closing. We'll have
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to work on the demolition of the residents. But we
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are choosing. To facilitate the parking in the areas of
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disturbance associated with the residents and pool and accessory structures.
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So this will be available for parking for town residents,
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and then. We are going to maintain the existing walkway
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and obviously, possibly improve it with access to the beach.
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But you can see that there's already a significant walkway,
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so we would like to kind of retain that existing
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beach walkway to basically be pedestrian access to the beach
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at this location. So there would be no drive on
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access, but there would be parking, and you would be
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able to walk over to the beach. But there is
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driving, right? Alongside. Yes, there's currently Gary Max Way, which
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is formerly known as Road F, so that I'll just
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point to that. But that is currently a drive on
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beach four by four. Access. So this beach. Will be.
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You'd need to park and walk on. Yeah. So what?
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The vision is to have a parking area, a small
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parking area in the area of disturbance here, and then
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build upon the existing raised walkway that's in fairly good
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condition to allow for pedestrian access to the beach. That
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parcel next to it to the east, owned by the
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village. Is that just open space or is that used
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for beach access also? I believe it's just open space.
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But if you can see Gary Maxway, that drive on
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beach access doesn't. Quite follow the road right of way,
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but right now, and I don't think I talked to
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mayor manger. There's no intent for any additional improvements in
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alloc. Allocation. So currently it is just passively open space
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and preserved area. I don't have, like, the deed, binding
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deed information on that, but I can get that. For
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you, if you'd like. But any plans would be.
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Brought to back to us so we can show the
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public. Yeah. First phase is to formally acquire it. Get
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this on as a public CPF acquisition and. Then next.
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We'll have to gain multiple estimates and put it out
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to bid for the demolition of the structure. But I
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think what is well suited is we'll be removing the
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environmental impacts of the residents. And then with that disturbance
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area, we'll be able to utilize that for a small
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parking area. So we'll work on the design with the
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town board, and then we can. Always obviously have a
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public work session once those plans have been finalized, and
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it's absolutely worth noting that this would be the only
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town beach. In the Southampton village area. And that was
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something that the town board wanted to make available for
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town residents because it's village residence only in the vicinity.
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So to give additional access to town residents in this
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location, which I would say would be very beneficial also
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for members of the Shinococc nation. All right. Then let's
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take some cards. We have several on this topic. Don't
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go anywhere. Jackie. Thank you, Jackie. First speaker is Tim
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Corwin, and after Tim is Donna Bennett. My name is
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Tim Corwin. I'm a resident of Southampton town. I live
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in the North Sea area. For those that don't know
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me, I have been involved with conservation pretty much all
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of my life. And for the last ten years or
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so, my real push has been Southampton's trail. Trails. I'm
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a member of the Southampton Trails Advisory Board. I'm on
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the board of Southampton Trails preservation society. And I'm also.
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The volunteer in charge of maintaining all 350 miles of
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hiking trails in south Hippton town and if anybody would
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like to volunteer to help me, I'm always used to
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help. Find my contact information on southamptontrails.org website. All right?
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Love to hear from you. Either call or text. I
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just like to say I'm really excited about this. Having
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grown up in Southampton. As a kid. I grew up
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in the village. We always used to go to coopers.
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That was the place to be. Now, unless you have
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the ability to have a village permit, which is $600.
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If you don't have some kind of n, you can't
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go to. Southampton village beaches. This will be for the
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village and for the town, so it's really. Really exciting
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to see. And I'm very impressed that the whole board
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is behind this. I'm also impressed that we have the
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money to do it, and basically it is a gift
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from the rich people that were able to do this.
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So I just like to say, let's go for it.
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Thank you, Tim. From all the residents that pay transfer
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tax. But yes, and we're very fortunate to have the
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fund to be able to do this. The jana bennett
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and after donna stephanie mcnamar. Hi. I'm Donna Bennett. I'm
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sorry for the glasses, but I'm light. Sensitive. I want
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to say thank you. This is the first time I
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feel like you guys have been really trying to find
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a way to do something for us here. I mean,
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I love that. Beach. I also know how overcrowded it
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is, so I. Want to say thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. However. Every time Miss Fenlin brought up the
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parking lot that will be there, the word small was.
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In front of it. So I want to ask you
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because. Southampton town goes all the way to the other
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side of West Hampton. There's no other. Beach. Anywhere but
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here in Southampton village, where you drive on. Can we
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please? Try and find another gift, if that's what Tim
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wants to call it, from the rich. People over on
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the other side of the canal. Because all the screaming
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that the people do about all the people that are
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down there on that beach. Never consider the fact that
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a lot of them come from the other side of
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the canal. I want to ask you to please consider
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this is the best thing you've done for the locals
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in this community that I can remember. I was born
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and raised here. I love this town. I'm tired of
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feeling like they're pushing us out, and this is the
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first time. I actually feel good. All of you together.
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Bravo. It's about time. And this is about. The locals,
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so please. Try and understand that Southampton goes all the
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way to the other side of Wayne Scott, too. We
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need more. Open park, beaches. Where town residents can go
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because there's quite a number in the village. Each village
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you go to. We always cater to that. But those
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of us that have grown up. Forever in the town
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are asking you please don't stop here. One last thing.
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I can't say. Mr. Pell. You and Mr. Iselli last
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year. Told me you were working on the garbage bags.
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It's been a long time in the bag still suck.
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But we got your beach. We got your beach. All
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right. Stephanie McNamara. And after Stephanie is Christopher Sargent. Hi.
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Madam Supreme Town Board. Thank you. My name is Stephanie
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McNamarma, resident of Southampton. My family and I would like
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to express our full support of this CPF purchase at
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1950. Metal Lane. This was the first house built on
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that stretch of drive on beach and therefore significance. To
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secure and continued four by four beach access. For local
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town residents is greatly appreciated. What is needed at Gary
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Maxway is the parking area. For four by four vehicles
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when the plovers prevent us from accessing our drive on
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beach I'm hopeful the town will provide resident only. No
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nonresident, no day passes. Ideally four by four stickers. In
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other words, a simple parking area so that. We can
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access Gary, Maxwave and the clovers are present. We've been
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prohibited from. Use use of this speech for far too
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many years. This purchase will allow us once again to
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enjoy access to our beloved beach while allowing the provovers
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to nest. The village has only allowed those able to
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purchase village stickers at a cost of some $300 to
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park at Road G, a price unattainable for many locals
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who use the drive on beach. Each year we have
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had to request the special clover parking exemption resolution for
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road G for the village. Therefore, we implore you to
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make this property a simple parking area for. Town residents
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to use. During the clover shutdown. Once again, this is
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a monumentally positive CPF purchase, for which we give offeral
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support and gratitude. After listening to. I'm sorry, Jackie. After
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having written this, I do have a little bit of
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a concern. As you are well aware, we have been
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struggling to maintain our four x four access to the
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beach for probably close to ten years now. And prior
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to that, starting with this house, a long time ago.
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So while I understand that the whole idea of this
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is to give town access, if you could please consider.
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It sounds, from what Jackie was saying, that now this
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might reduce our four by four access and that's very
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concerning, because if you're going to make this property here,
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Town. And I thought I heard something about not driving
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on that area. So perhaps the compromise to that situation
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would be since this is all open space, you can't.
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Drive past here. Maybe. If you're going to open it
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for town, walk on. Other than during clover season. That
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perhaps that could be the designated area. That's access. And
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then leave the four by four stipulation where it is
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from row g all the way to the Shunnekok. County
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park, so. It's concerning that we could be reducing four
[19:04]
by four. And I hope and pray that that's not
[19:07]
the case, but I do fully support. The purchase. 30
[19:11]
seconds. I just wanted to clarify that it's not our
[19:14]
plan to shut. Down the four by four, as you
[19:17]
said. This parking area would be open for Southampton Town
[19:20]
residents throughout the season, just like any other town. Beach
[19:24]
is. As you stated, people could do, knowing that when
[19:29]
you go over, that's drive on beach. They are free
[19:31]
to walk to the left, to that village in front
[19:33]
of that village property which as you know, the four
[19:36]
x fours are not allowed there, and they can enjoy
[19:38]
the beach of the pedestrian, so I think there's room
[19:41]
to cohabitate. I think we did this. I was trying
[19:44]
to get another beach open for drive on. In Hampton
[19:46]
Bays. It was next to an existing it was right
[19:48]
next to hot dog beach at the end of Triton
[19:50]
Lane. We deemed it was the people that utilize hot
[19:53]
dog beach have historically used it as a pedestrian only
[19:57]
beach, and they fought against, even though they loved the
[20:01]
idea. Of having another drive on, to have it there
[20:03]
so close in proximity they didn't want it, but. This
[20:06]
historically is the other side of the coin, right? This
[20:09]
is historically the drive on beach we are all aware
[20:11]
of that, and it would remain so, and they would
[20:14]
have to go to the left as a pedestrian or.
[20:18]
As you know, there's people come down when we're driving
[20:20]
on and they cohabitate very beautifully. And just as the
[20:24]
village does, where they make, say, Dune beach, the only
[20:28]
resident beach, if you could please consider making this resident
[20:32]
only. No day passes, no non resident. Agreed. This is
[20:35]
something that we need because we have been denied access
[20:39]
to our beach for the better part of ten years.
[20:40]
Now because of the clover. So in order for us
[20:42]
to cohabitate with the clovers, and. Be respectful of that.
[20:46]
This is a great plan, and I'm hopeful that this
[20:48]
is going to solve our problem and we won't have
[20:50]
to walk as far on road g it's quite a
[20:52]
hike. It was a little, Gary Maxwell is a little
[20:54]
bit smaller, but again, from my family. This is a
[20:57]
blessing because. When that first house was built, which is
[21:00]
this one. Three minutes. Thank you so much. We are
[21:04]
trying to figure that out. About the day passes. No
[21:07]
day passes. Just for the residents only. Because this way,
[21:11]
you don't need to have somebody there checking stickers either.
[21:13]
You don't. Need. What do you call one of the
[21:17]
ticket takers or whatever, just keep it simple. Just keep
[21:21]
it simple. Maybe portal life would be great. And beyond
[21:23]
that, keep it simple. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Christopher
[21:28]
Sargent. All right. Thank you, Chris. I think I'm a
[21:37]
town resident, not a village resident. I first came to
[21:41]
this era in 2002, so I was one of the
[21:44]
early victims of the CPF. And whilst people have spoken
[21:48]
about some of the benefits that they see from this
[21:50]
proposal, the thing that I want to point you guys
[21:52]
to is. This is not what was talked about when
[21:56]
the CPF was first introduced. What I remember being talked
[22:00]
about was what we were trying to do was to
[22:01]
stop over development of the area. So the idea was
[22:05]
that the CPF could go out and buy farmland, stop
[22:07]
it being developed, have less properties in the area, we
[22:10]
would all benefit. And when it was explained to me
[22:13]
at the time, I thought, well, I don't know. About
[22:15]
that. But perhaps it'll work. And perhaps it has. I
[22:17]
understand the town's bought a large amount of acreage, and
[22:20]
maybe that has been worthwhile. I don't. Know, but once
[22:23]
you start doing things like buying the lobster in and
[22:25]
buying a supposedly decent restaurant, and basically shutting it down,
[22:29]
creating a load of derelict outbuildings, clearly. We've gone off
[22:32]
scripts and I do not believe for a minute that
[22:34]
that's. What the CPF was originally intended to do, and
[22:37]
nor is it what it's intended. To do now. And
[22:39]
I think we've got the same situation here, and I
[22:41]
think you really need to look at this and say,
[22:43]
do we want to be the people who are buying?
[22:45]
Oceanfront mansions from billionaires and knocking them down with taxpayer
[22:49]
money. I mean, how's that going to look in the
[22:52]
New York Post? This is what you've got to think
[22:55]
about. And whilst I understand some of the benefits that
[22:59]
people are talking about. I think you've got to try
[23:00]
and find other ways of doing this, because if this
[23:02]
is truly the best thing you can do with CPF
[23:05]
money, you need to shut the CPF down. So I'm
[23:09]
just going to say that I 1000% want to be
[23:12]
the person. No. You're finished talking, sir. I'm not having
[23:14]
a conversation. I'm just making. A point. And my point
[23:16]
is that I 1000% want to be the person that
[23:20]
uses CPF. To restore access that was lost to development
[23:23]
in the past. When I first. Bought Oceanfront property to
[23:32]
the board. I went to Fredfield. Next. Fred, can CPF
[23:37]
buy? Property along the ocean. For people, for access, for
[23:43]
people to use. And Fred said, yes, 100%. That's what
[23:48]
it's for. It's a gift back from the wealthy people.
[23:53]
For the local people, and it gives access. That's what
[23:55]
CPF is all about, access. And preserving property. If it
[24:00]
doesn't matter if it's on the ocean. Or. It's a
[24:05]
farm in Bridge Hampton where we just paid $40 million
[24:08]
for with one. House. We tear the house down, and
[24:10]
you have 40 acres or 50 acres out there. Okay,
[24:14]
how many people are actually going to use that you
[24:16]
drive by, but. This beach. My kids are going to
[24:20]
use it. My grandkids are going to use it. Jackie's
[24:23]
kids are going to use it, and her grandkids are
[24:25]
going to use it. Okay? And that's what it's all
[24:28]
about. Us. Helping this town survive if we don't have
[24:33]
access to the ocean? For the people who come and
[24:35]
visit. How many people? Do you live on metal lane?
[24:39]
No. You don't live automotive, you live up. So how
[24:41]
are you going to go to the beach if it's
[24:43]
finally closed off? Okay, you can't and that's what we
[24:46]
have to do. I just want to add. Preserving access
[24:54]
to the waterways. And the beaches. It's critical responsibility, in
[24:58]
particular of the trustees, and I want to commend Councilman
[25:02]
Powell for really taking the leadership on this particular issue.
[25:07]
From the get go and helping to work with CPF.
[25:10]
And Jackie and Dan, thank you for your coordination with
[25:12]
us because the preservation of properties like this are going
[25:15]
to last generations. Thank you for your team. I took
[25:21]
some guff from a piece of property we bought on
[25:23]
Shore Road. Access. We're going to tear the house down.
[25:27]
I'll leave the house up. Who? Knows. Okay, but that
[25:30]
gives that neighborhood access to that creek, and if I
[25:34]
can do it in. Every neighborhood where there's a creek
[25:36]
or a pond, give those people access. And the whole
[25:43]
town access to that area. To use that waterway, it's
[25:45]
a great thing. It doesn't matter. If you're just going
[25:47]
down to have a sandwich, what Mr. Holden used to
[25:50]
do. The old survey. He's quite old. He used to
[25:54]
come down and have a sandwich. Peanut butter jelly sandwich.
[25:57]
Conscious point. I used to see him down there. Or
[26:01]
he's a stand up board or go swimming or go
[26:03]
fishing. Or put a boat in the water. It's the
[26:09]
right of people of this town to use the water.
[26:11]
And if. You cannot. Get to it because we did
[26:16]
not take the opportunity to buy a property in that
[26:18]
neighborhood to give the access. Jackie. I want to buy
[26:23]
more property on the water. Get all you can. Well,
[26:32]
I don't have any more cards on this public hearing,
[26:35]
but. Peter. Andrew. Is there anyone on Zoom? You got
[26:39]
one person. All right. Bring them on.
[27:05]
Okay. Hi, I'm Alex King, chief of Southampton Village Ocean
[27:10]
rescue, and I wanted to say. That we are fully
[27:13]
in support of the acquisition of the Medalayan property. This.
[27:19]
Expanding the parking for beach access. Will significantly increase public
[27:26]
use and will magnify the need for our ocean rescue,
[27:30]
life saving services. I would like to take this opportunity.
[27:35]
To express our interest in expanding our ocean rescue services
[27:38]
throughout the township of Southampton. Our jurisdiction right now is
[27:44]
currently limited to the village of Southampton. To reiterate, we
[27:50]
are. Fully volunteer first responders. Our dedicated team is made
[27:56]
up of certified ocean lifeguards on call 24 7365 days
[28:01]
a year, dispatch through 911. The fact that being on
[28:05]
call, we patrolled during high ripped current times. We lifeguard
[28:10]
charity ocean. We certified over 50 lifeguards this summer. We
[28:15]
had. 75 children. In our junior lifeguard program. We have
[28:19]
an adult swim program. We have a swim program. For
[28:23]
young adults with on the autism spectrum. And this coming
[28:27]
season, we have our program to learn to swim program.
[28:32]
For families on the reservation. Our mission has always been
[28:36]
to prevent drownings and to protect lives and support the
[28:40]
community whenever and wherever we're needed. We have heard the
[28:44]
public outcry for more ocean rescue throughout Southampton, and we
[28:50]
want to say that we want to be here for
[28:52]
you. Our volunteer services. Let me say that again. Our
[28:56]
volunteer services minimally impact taxpayers. I hope that we can
[29:01]
set up a work session with supervisor Moore and the
[29:05]
council as soon as possible. So we can discuss. The
[29:10]
growing need for ocean rescue life services throughout the township
[29:12]
at unguarded beaches and find a solution that benefits the
[29:16]
entire community. The East Hampton Ocean rescue first response team
[29:21]
has had a long time proven track record of saving
[29:25]
lives. There's no price you can put on safety. Southampton
[29:30]
town deserves to have ocean rescue at their disposal. Thank
[29:34]
you for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Sure. Yeah.
[29:43]
Carl, you have some comments? Carl benicas. I'm the attorney
[29:47]
for the current owner and seller. I just want to
[29:50]
again reiterate, thanks to Jackie and Dan for their professionalism
[29:54]
as we worked on terms that were agreeable to all
[29:57]
sides of this transaction. Speaking for the seller and her
[30:06]
family, her children and her grandchildren, I can say this
[30:09]
parcel was incredibly important to them as a family, and
[30:12]
they are very excited to see the future of this.
[30:15]
Parcel as being one used and enjoyed by the public
[30:18]
both for conservation and for. Both. As the representative for
[30:24]
the applicant and as a member of this community, I
[30:26]
wanted to thank the board for this acquisition. Thank you
[30:29]
very much. Thank you. And the best part about it,
[30:32]
if they have sold it to another wealthy person to
[30:35]
tear down and build a bigger house. Their kids could
[30:38]
never come back and use the beach. Now their grandkids
[30:41]
could come back. And say, this is where my grandparents,
[30:43]
my great grandparents grew up. Absolutely. And that has actually
[30:47]
been discussed by them. We talked about that. I just
[30:51]
wanted to let the other people know. Okay. Well, thank
[30:54]
you. Thank you. Participation in helping us to put this
[30:57]
together. Of course. It was a pleasure. Thank you. Thank
[30:59]
you. No other comments. Then I moved to close the
[31:05]
public hearing. Second. All in favor? Aye. Very good. Thank
[31:11]
you.
[31:45]
Joe is trying to get out. Yeah. What?
[32:03]
's continue. Madam Clerk, would you please read the notice
[32:06]
for the second public hearing? Public hearing? Number two to
[32:10]
amend Town code chapter 312, vehicles and traffic, article 15,
[32:14]
turning movements, section 312 72.2. Right. Turns prohibited.
[32:25]
Who's here to talk to us about this one. Our
[32:33]
highway superintendent. Good afternoon. Thank you. Tomboy. Tom Nealy. Welcome
[32:39]
aboard. Thank you. My name is Charlie McCall. The highway
[32:42]
superintendent. Here to talk about public hearing on a town
[32:52]
code. I want to start off with just a few
[32:55]
things I have in front of me right now. Is
[32:57]
the final draft of the traffic mitigation. Task force, which
[33:03]
most of you know. Me and Tom Neely were the
[33:05]
co chairmans of. That this was the brainstorm brainchild of
[33:09]
Michael Icilli, and I have to give him credit, he
[33:12]
put together what I would call pretty much an all
[33:14]
star team of people on the board. From. State, county,
[33:20]
town and village lawmakers. To police chief from the town,
[33:25]
police chief from the village. To Department of Transportation commissioner
[33:30]
myself and several other people, including Maria Moore. Let me
[33:36]
just read a few things from the report. If I
[33:39]
could. In the introduction. Just a brief thing. The task
[33:43]
force was not merely intended to provide an examination. Of
[33:46]
the underlying causes of these traffic related issues and solutions,
[33:51]
but also to enact the bottom up approach to its
[33:54]
functionality, directed through public. Comments and concerns. The scope of
[34:00]
the task force work included, but not limited to the
[34:03]
analysis of current traffic patterns. Infrastructure limitations. And the efficiency
[34:09]
of existing traffic enforcement measures. Ultimately, the task force goal
[34:13]
was to identify the issues and formulate a spin and
[34:17]
variable solutions that could mitigate the problems faced by residents,
[34:22]
ensuring safer and more efficient. Roadways throughout the entire community.
[34:28]
The task force would identify and examine known heavy traffic
[34:31]
corridors. County Road 39. Whether primary or secondary roadways. Collect
[34:38]
information from the public, collaborate with town highway public safety
[34:42]
law enforcement town engineering departments regarding potential solutions. As the
[34:47]
report continues. In the conclusion, it says, the Traffic Mitigation
[34:51]
Safety Task Force embarked on the comprehensive, multifought faced investigation
[34:56]
into the complex traffic challenges that impact Southampton town. This
[35:01]
involves the process of data analysis. Composing traffic flow patterns,
[35:07]
crash statistics, and infrastructure capabilities. Today. And that brings us
[35:14]
why we're here today. Part of the afternoon traffic. Pattern
[35:20]
that we've changed includes some changes, some add ons. Today
[35:24]
we have the turns on Henry road and Tucker Hole
[35:27]
lane. And quite honestly, even if. We didn't have this
[35:31]
new traffic pattern in place. Those two restrictions should have
[35:34]
been in. Place years ago. They're both dangerous. Turns to
[35:37]
come out onto 39 in the afternoon. Is very dangerous.
[35:42]
Now. You probably will hear some from people. That live
[35:45]
locally that might be opposed to the changes because it's
[35:48]
an inconvenience. They have to drive around to add a
[35:52]
few minutes to their time, but I'd like the board
[35:54]
to consider these changes. And think about the greater good
[35:58]
of what we're doing out there. Thank you. Thank you.
[36:08]
All right, well, I do have one card on this
[36:11]
Rachel Verno.
[36:21]
Good afternoon, everybody. Rachel Burnout. I'm speaking as a resident.
[36:29]
Not as the sheriff. Today. Although I would like to
[36:32]
say on behalf of our CAC, thank you to the
[36:34]
supervisor. And councilman Neely and Janice, for all attending our
[36:38]
meeting yesterday. I think it was a great meeting. And
[36:41]
I know everyone. On our committee appreciated it, and I'm
[36:45]
looking forward to the other board members coming to some
[36:47]
of our meetings this year. So I was a member
[36:50]
of the Towns County Road 39 Land Use committee back
[36:53]
in 2014, and I reckon the. Benefits of the highway
[36:58]
superintendent just mentioned. Of reducing curb cuts onto the highway,
[37:03]
as well as the importance of getting motorists to use
[37:05]
a light in order to safely make turns onto the
[37:07]
highway. I also understand why the town is considering limiting
[37:11]
access off of Henry and Tucker. Hoe onto County Road
[37:13]
39. But I would ask the board to share the
[37:16]
data connected to the pilot programs. That support these closures.
[37:20]
Specifically how much time is saved on County Road 39
[37:23]
when access from these streets is limited. Where are the
[37:26]
vehicles that have been taking these roads redirected to? Are
[37:29]
these closures creating backups on other roads. And does there
[37:32]
need to be adjustments made to lights at north C?
[37:34]
And McGay. Currently, there are so many varying opinions regarding
[37:38]
the pilot program on county road 39. I think it's
[37:41]
important to have all the data connected to these road
[37:43]
closures provided. And I'm asking the board to make that
[37:46]
information available to the public. I'll mention that the town
[37:50]
has an access management plan for County Road 39. That
[37:54]
makes a very different recommendation for Tukalo Holain. So even
[37:58]
more reason to have any of this new data made
[38:00]
available. If the road closures aren't data driven, I'd ask
[38:04]
the board if they. Could explain the criteria being used
[38:07]
for these type of road closures. What exactly are the
[38:10]
benchmarks that needs to be met in order to trigger
[38:13]
a decision to close a public road. Lastly, I'd ask
[38:17]
the board if they could explain the methodology and. Cost
[38:21]
for implementing and enforcing all of these road closures. Over
[38:24]
the summer, the highway department had someone stationed at the
[38:27]
entrance to Diamond Court from 06:00 a.m. to ten. 30
[38:30]
a. M. On a regular basis. Is this the same
[38:33]
methodology going to be used for the afternoon closures on
[38:36]
Henry and Tuckaho? I appreciate that. The resolution states there's
[38:40]
no financial impact for these closures. You're not contracting McClain
[38:44]
to reengineer these roads, but I'm. Assuming there's a cost
[38:47]
associated with these closures in terms of manpower, I hope
[38:51]
the board will consider sharing how much was spent in
[38:53]
2025 for these road closures and what the projected costs
[38:57]
will be going forward in 2026. As always, I thank
[39:01]
you for the opportunity. To speak this afternoon, and I
[39:03]
look forward to getting. Any of that information. Thanks. Thank
[39:06]
you. Peter. Andrew. Is there anyone on zoom for the
[39:10]
second public hearing? No one has their hand up. Superintendent
[39:19]
McCarthy. I just had one question about the lights, if
[39:22]
you don't mind coming back. Up. Well, I know I'd
[39:28]
like to support what your idea is because. This is.
[39:34]
A big risk that you were taking to try to
[39:37]
make a change. For the better and. If you need
[39:42]
a few more pieces to fall into place. I support
[39:45]
that. Is there something, though, about the lights? The flashing
[39:48]
or blinking lights? As Rachel just mentioned. I'm not exactly
[39:54]
sure what she was referring to. McGee street and Tukaho
[39:59]
Road. We had asked the county to put those lights
[40:03]
in a position where. They are the longest possible in
[40:08]
Green on County Road 39. Timing the timing and how
[40:13]
long they are green. Not sure why, but they have
[40:18]
been struggling with that Tucker ho road is set perfectly,
[40:21]
I think. It's at four minutes, which seems like a
[40:23]
lifetime if you're not in the green. McGee street has
[40:28]
changed from two minutes to three minutes to two minutes,
[40:31]
so we're trying. To get a handle on McGee Street.
[40:35]
But the reason why we're asking. For this town code
[40:38]
to be put in places so we don't have to
[40:41]
extend manpower. To physically block these roads. If people adhere
[40:46]
to the town code, then nobody will be making that
[40:48]
right turn, which causes the traffic on 39 to back
[40:51]
up. The goal has always been we'll continue to be,
[40:55]
to get people on county road 39. And again I
[40:59]
fight gps all day long. You save 1 second. You're
[41:03]
going to go down a side street. Because people are
[41:05]
so in tune to the GPs. But the goal is
[41:09]
to keep them on County Road 39, and if we
[41:11]
could prevent any backup. By people entering 39 at certain
[41:15]
locations. We will do that. Can I have a question?
[41:20]
Rather than do a timed right term restriction on Tucker
[41:23]
Hoe, would it make more sense to just make it
[41:26]
right turn at the light. You can't. No. Right turn
[41:28]
on red, period. At Tucko Road. Tucker Ho road. Well,
[41:34]
people need to cross to go from the college to.
[41:36]
The golf course. That's what I mean. You could still
[41:38]
have a right turn, but only. What? The lights. So
[41:40]
just make it no. Right on red. The right turn
[41:44]
at Taco Road. To be honest, Malkin, maybe back me
[41:46]
up on this. By then. The traffic is moving pretty
[41:49]
good, so you are taking your life into your hands,
[41:51]
but. You can make a right, and I don't think.
[41:55]
It really. Causes traffic to back up when you have
[41:58]
that line of people cheating that come from the north.
[42:02]
And they end up on Tucker Hole Lane. And they're
[42:04]
lined up and only it's. A one for one to
[42:06]
come out. It backs up 39 and we can't recover.
[42:09]
So again, these are pilot programs. We're asking to put
[42:12]
them in place and would take a good look. It
[42:16]
may also be worth mentioning, Charlie, that there's a lot
[42:18]
of ongoing discussions about what you're doing as a pilot
[42:22]
for the short term here on 39 with also the
[42:25]
village. And some of their engineers. We are in daily
[42:31]
conversation with the village, and again. They get better. We
[42:34]
do. On 39. The village gets the benefit because there's
[42:37]
less people. Cutting through the village. But they are in
[42:41]
favor of it. We did a lot of work. Mock
[42:42]
did a lot of work on McGee street. They made
[42:45]
a turning lane that is now extends for a couple
[42:48]
of hundred. Feet. People can get in that turning lane.
[42:53]
And can get onto 39 as quick as possible. But
[42:55]
again, the timing of the lights is important. And just
[42:57]
get back to the comments. This is to make it
[43:01]
so we have less manpower. If these restrictions are in
[43:04]
place, we don't have to physically be there. I just
[43:07]
got it. It's not so that people can't make a
[43:10]
right one. It's to that they don't even go down
[43:12]
that road during three and seven. Well, it would be
[43:15]
almost impossible to go east from there. I think. If
[43:20]
I can jump in. To Charlie's point and to this
[43:24]
request. Right turns onto a road, or more dramatically, left
[43:29]
turns onto a road, create friction. They slow the other
[43:34]
cars down. I mean, there has been a lot of.
[43:38]
20 years, we've been wrestling with what to do about
[43:40]
County Road 39. There have been restrictions. For example, there's
[43:44]
been discussion of restrictions on Hill station road. No. Right
[43:48]
turn coming east in the morning. We don't really talk
[43:51]
about the mornings anymore. We're focused on this afternoon. Westbound.
[43:55]
But I think to Charlie's point, and the request here
[43:59]
is. Right turns coming out, coming south, making the right.
[44:04]
You're creating more friction on 39 and. I think that's
[44:08]
the point. Of trying to eliminate more of the word
[44:11]
friction. Engineering term. You're making more people slow. Down. I
[44:14]
think you can debate. It's already congested. How much worse
[44:19]
is it having to make the right that's? Again, debatable.
[44:23]
If someone does not obey the law, they would have
[44:25]
to be pulled over on County Road 39. Which. Takes
[44:29]
the bad situation and makes it worse. So there are
[44:33]
issues here, but in light of the fact that I
[44:35]
think. We're still talking about this as a pilot program.
[44:40]
Maybe sitting down in a month or so since the
[44:42]
chainslers were made, what, November 12? I know it's been
[44:46]
tweaked on and off in different ways over the past
[44:49]
three months or whatever it is. I think in the
[44:52]
spirit of trying one more thing. To see if this
[44:56]
might help. In that sense, I think it makes sense
[45:00]
it may be something that stays permanently regardless of what
[45:03]
happens, but my thought is in a month. Because we're
[45:08]
in January. We're going to be getting to march and
[45:11]
April and May and not too long. I think in
[45:14]
a month or something, we have to sit down and
[45:16]
say, have these adjustments. Are they working? To Rachel's points.
[45:22]
I think you ask a lot of good questions. We
[45:24]
can't. Answer them all here today, but I think there
[45:27]
are a lot of good questions that we do. Have
[45:30]
to discuss further and wrestle with a little bit. But
[45:32]
to the immediate issue, I think in the spirit of
[45:35]
trying. To one more arrow in the quiver or whatever
[45:40]
to try to give you something that you think will
[45:42]
help under this situation, I would say. Let's give it
[45:47]
a shot. Appreciate it. Where my question actually comes from.
[45:54]
Is personal use of that road. And we had generally.
[45:58]
When I ran the lawn accounts, we had accounts west
[46:03]
of Tuckerhoe Road. We would go back. To taco road
[46:05]
with the truck and trailer to make a right with
[46:08]
the light rather than trying to make that right off
[46:11]
of because it was just horrendous to make that. Right
[46:13]
with the trailer. Michael had emailed me. And I think
[46:17]
it was Tom's idea about trying to get some of
[46:19]
these roots into the website, the changes. Now, you know,
[46:23]
at Tukaho Lane, it's just as easy. To if you
[46:28]
want it to go west. Believe it or not, you
[46:29]
could just as easily go. Past the school and merge
[46:32]
on to Sandy Hollow. And now. You're in traffic and
[46:36]
you're going west again. You don't have to. Make that
[46:39]
dangerous turn. Or you can actually go further. I know
[46:42]
people don't like us. Directing people down Sabanic. But you
[46:45]
can go down sabonic to get out down. Below. Well,
[46:48]
no. We would be past taco on Sabah. It would
[46:52]
be quicker for us to. Go out sabonic, but the
[46:54]
turn. Is such a hard right with the trailer that
[46:58]
we would go back to Tuckerhoe. At the boat showroom,
[47:01]
right? Yeah. You can't see anything. No, not the boat
[47:03]
showroom. We would go. Oh, that's where you're doing it?
[47:07]
Yeah. Tuck a ho. I'm thinking the golf course road.
[47:10]
No. Takaholane, Taco Lane. Take everything I said and throw
[47:15]
it out the window. So. Go. Lane is. I was
[47:17]
talking about the light at Tucker. Hopin has. Right. I'm
[47:21]
sorry. I don't know how the county let them, but
[47:24]
there's a retaining wall for. That building you can't see.
[47:28]
Okay, agree 1000%. Now that I know of my and
[47:30]
I did speak to some of the local town cops
[47:33]
and about the issue, like I try to tell them.
[47:35]
Don't pull anybody over on 30,000. Not to get away
[47:38]
with anything, but the quick response to that was they
[47:41]
would stand in the Goldberg's driveway and just wave people
[47:45]
into the driveway and take care of if they had
[47:47]
to issue a ticket. What they've always said the driver
[47:50]
has to make the decision or maybe the police can
[47:52]
help them make the decision to get into a parking
[47:54]
lot rather than stopping. On 39 again. I appreciate the
[47:58]
board. 's support. Going forward? Anybody else going to rely
[48:01]
on signage to accomplish this? Have you spoken with the
[48:04]
chief? Maybe they can put some cars out there just
[48:07]
initially to get people to make sure they. Spoke directly
[48:11]
to the officer that covers that area. They said they'd
[48:14]
be on it and I'm sure highway would post at
[48:16]
the head of these two streets. You don't. Want them
[48:19]
going down. You don't want them going down and then
[48:20]
finding out, right? Anyway, thanks very much. Thank you, Charlie.
[48:25]
Thank you, Charlie, for the work. All right, well, if
[48:33]
there's no other questions or comments, I moved to close
[48:36]
this public hearing second. All in favor? Aye. Madam Clerk,
[48:44]
would you please read the notice for the third public
[48:46]
hearing? Public hearing number three, amending town code chapter 312,
[48:50]
vehicles and traffic, article three. Stop sign intersection section 312
[48:56]
nine Eastwag, Tyana and Hampton Bay's hamlets to Shinnecock canal
[49:01]
subsection a north of Montek Highway. All right. Who is
[49:11]
going to speak to us about this? I thought. Your
[49:20]
backup. Charlie McCaultle, highway Department pretty much what she read.
[49:29]
It's needed. I do think it's important to note that
[49:35]
an engineering study was done. Correct. We're talking about this
[49:40]
intersection. Yeah. Valid old country. An engineering study was done
[49:44]
which does so this. Intersection in particular, as we know.
[49:49]
And clearly Cindy knows is the East Quag elementary school
[49:53]
is right around the corner. And we asked the engineering
[49:56]
department to come up with. What intersection would serve best?
[50:02]
To have the stop sign. And most people would be
[50:04]
like, of course, the one where the school is. And
[50:06]
they came up with the theory that. No, we'll go
[50:08]
a little bit further. Because it's two spots where people
[50:10]
will now slow down. You have the crosswalk for the
[50:12]
school. And now the stop sign a little bit up.
[50:15]
Unveil old country road. Has been a racetrack for many
[50:21]
years, going way back, so hopefully this will just calm
[50:25]
some traffic. And that's pretty much it. Looking for everybody's
[50:30]
support. Yeah. Some letters on it, right? We did. We
[50:33]
did get community support letters for this. There has been
[50:36]
I believe we have support from the east club civic,
[50:39]
the east clog Board of Education. Many community members. They
[50:43]
were asking for this when I was chair of the
[50:45]
CAC and. The question. You were right. The question was
[50:48]
they wanted Central, but central, I think, is too close.
[50:52]
To Lewis that it's not really. You're not getting enough
[50:55]
speed up and sometimes. Traffic backs up through that intersection.
[50:59]
You also have the parents that pick up the schools,
[51:02]
the kids at school, and that backs up. Right off
[51:04]
of there. The other ones on this, too. The three
[51:08]
yield signs that would be different. You'll be back. Tom
[51:15]
mentioned there was an engineering report, and it indicated that
[51:18]
the stop at this intersection is reasonable. And would be
[51:21]
helpful. It may not solve the speeding problem because traffic
[51:27]
engineering tells you that stop signs don't. Stop speeding on
[51:30]
a mile and a quarter long road. But. It does
[51:35]
perhaps help solve other problems. And one of the questions
[51:38]
or thoughts I had looking at the study. I believe
[51:40]
the sidewalks go all the way to veil. Might this
[51:44]
be an appropriate place? For you folks to put in
[51:46]
a crosswalk. Since it's now going to be a protected
[51:50]
intersection. Something for you to evaluate, think about. We did
[51:55]
it. Got a few phone calls, a lot of emails
[51:57]
about this. It's a good idea. Okay. I have two
[52:04]
cards on. Christine connolly. And then Christine Grant.
[52:16]
I think this has broad support with everybody, I hope,
[52:19]
but I made some remarks. Good afternoon, everyone. Happy New
[52:29]
year. Mr. Neely, congratulations. It's fortuitous that we. Have a
[52:33]
traffic issue. And thanks for your email. Absolutely. Appreciate that.
[52:38]
So I'm here today. Speaking on behalf of the East
[52:40]
Quag Civic and Eastwa Beautification Committee in vehemently. Supporting numerous
[52:34]
anecdotal reasons that these signs would improve the quality of
[52:37]
life in east Quag, including slowing traffic near our elementary
[52:40]
school or making GPS navigation route traffic through our main
[52:43]
street that came up. In another thing, we have a
[52:46]
lot of issues with GPS. People live and die by
[52:49]
it. Montauk highway has been the de facto road, but
[52:52]
with GPS, people just.
[53:09]
Get onto old country because it saves them 10 seconds
[53:11]
or something. According to ways. But I suspect that Christine
[53:16]
and others, or just us, could speak about that more
[53:19]
eloquently than I could instead, because I'm a huge nerd
[53:22]
and I had nothing to do this morning. I'd like
[53:24]
to look at this from a scientific perspective and refer
[53:26]
to the 2025 edition of the Manual on Uniform traffic
[53:30]
control devices, published by the USDOT and the Federal high.
[53:34]
Highway administration. So, interestingly enough, the manual, right. It frowns
[53:39]
upon this idea you've got. A major road and a
[53:41]
minor road. So to add stop signs that are just
[53:43]
arbitrary. It's not actually something that they want to do.
[53:47]
And we look at a road like old country road.
[53:49]
The best data I could get was like 6600 vehicles
[53:52]
per day. You wouldn't. Typically need this, but it lists
[53:56]
three very specific circumstances when you would want to add
[53:59]
a stop sign to a major road meeting. A minor
[54:02]
road. Factor one, elevated crash history. So from the meteor
[54:07]
reports we could find on 27 east, as well as
[54:09]
speaking with first responders. There have been five documented accidents
[54:12]
on Old Country Road in 2025, including a DWI. Hidden
[54:15]
run on June 29, 2025. The vast majority of these
[54:20]
accidents are single vehicle accidents. The manual says that stop
[54:24]
signs can help in those scenarios. It specifically mentions installing
[54:29]
stop signs or stoplights in that. So factor two that
[54:32]
comes up in this manual is called site distance failure.
[54:35]
Old country road curves south and decreases in elevation immediately
[54:38]
after veil when traveling eastbound. It's also an area of
[54:43]
the road that's experienced numerous vehicle versus tree accidents. Over
[54:46]
the years. The manual recommends normally fixing sight lines as
[54:49]
best practices. Or changing the grade. But when it's impossible
[54:54]
due to grade homes or vegetation, like in this situation,
[54:57]
it recommends installing stop signs, lights and other traffic control
[55:00]
devices. And then there's the third factor, which is when
[55:04]
an intersection is operating as two important streets, basically, or
[55:08]
there's. Heavy pedestrian crossing demand, so pedestrian crossing demand. Exists
[55:12]
because we have kids walking to school. There's one of
[55:14]
the only sidewalked roads in east Quag was old country
[55:17]
road, so we have. Heavy pedestrian traffic there in the
[55:20]
morning. Crosswalk. Great idea there. And then others would argue
[55:25]
that Vale is also an important road people live. Unveil
[55:27]
that hate me for saying this, but. Many people who
[55:30]
live east of Vale might cut through veil to get
[55:32]
to old country road to get riverhead or sunrise highway.
[55:35]
So those are the three factors to install stop sign.
[55:39]
Signs on roads when they don't normally meet that normal
[55:42]
equation, and I hope to never have to read this
[55:45]
book again. 30 seconds. And other than that, I'm just.
[55:50]
On a separate note, thank you guys for purchasing that.
[55:53]
Property. In Southampton town for the new beach. It's wonderful
[55:57]
and it's absolutely to go. Against that other gentleman. It's
[56:00]
absolutely in the spirit of the CPF fund. And when
[56:02]
he said victim. I'm proud to pay CPF on IPA
[56:05]
piece of property because of what keeps our community, our
[56:08]
community. Thank you, guys. And I just say I appreciate
[56:11]
your mentioning the MuTcD because I held back. From talking
[56:15]
about it. Yes, it's on my favorites bar on the
[56:18]
computer, so I appreciate you referencing it? Thank you for
[56:22]
your research. All right. Christine Grant.
[56:36]
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Christine Grant. I'm the
[56:39]
secretary of the East Quag. Citizens advisory committee. But today
[56:43]
I'm here as a concerned resident, neighbor and mom. I'm
[56:52]
respectfully asking the town to approve a three way stop
[56:54]
at the intersection of Vale Avenue and old country road.
[56:57]
Old country road is notorious for speeding, and given its
[57:00]
close proximity, to the East Quag elementary school that Sweden
[57:04]
is particularly dangerous. This intersection sits along a route used
[57:08]
every day by many families. Children walking to and from
[57:11]
school. Parents with strollers, kids riding bikes, neighbors walking dogs,
[57:16]
everyone trying their best to show the road. Safely. There
[57:21]
have already been numerous accidents on old country, and residents
[57:23]
are rightfully concerned about safety in the area. A three
[57:26]
way stop is a simple, practical step that would slow
[57:29]
traffic and make that area. Much safer for everyone, especially
[57:33]
our kids. I appreciate your time and consideration, and I
[57:36]
hope you'll move forward with approving this. A three way
[57:39]
stop and help protecting our community. Thank you. Thank you.
[57:44]
Okay. So, Peter, Andrew, is there anyone on Zoom for
[57:53]
this third public hearing? No one has their hands up.
[57:58]
Have you seen your hand? All right. Just no other
[58:04]
comments. Then I'll move to close the public hearing. I
[58:07]
will just say that the reason why? The Bale crosswalk
[58:10]
wouldn't work is because. It continues. The sidewall continues to
[58:15]
fail, and then it crosses. Further down. There's no sidewalk
[58:19]
on that side of the street, so either we would
[58:22]
have to look at expanding the sidewalk, which I don't
[58:24]
think the houses there would allow for. Because they're right
[58:28]
up there. I would just like to say it's great
[58:31]
to see the board taking a lot of proactive measures
[58:34]
lately on some traffic mitigation and safety. And thank you
[58:37]
to the highway. Department really appreciate everybody's collaboration. Thanks for
[58:43]
bringing these to us for consideration. And I'm proud to
[58:47]
support this. Me, too. So I need a second to
[58:52]
close this. All in favor? All right. Madam Clerk, would
[58:56]
you please read the notice for the fourth and final
[58:59]
public hearing? Public? Hearing number four for a local law
[59:03]
to enact a new article six B entitled hotel development.
[59:07]
Overlay. Within chapter 330, zoning of the town code and
[59:11]
add sections 34.5 through 34. Point ten to enable the
[59:16]
discretionary review of small scale tourist accommodations in highway business
[59:21]
zoning districts. The yield signs are on for adoption. We
[59:25]
already had the public hearing. Go read that book. Yeah.
[59:34]
You're up. Good afternoon. Welcome. Council member
[59:43]
Neely share, our town planning and development administrator. I was
[59:48]
not here for the hearing at the special meeting on
[59:51]
this, but happy to answer any further questions or discuss.
[59:57]
This floating hotel development overlay code with you. You weren't
[1:00:02]
here that day. Yes. Didn't realize it was amid. We
[1:00:07]
were just waiting for comments, I believe. Yes, with your
[1:00:10]
tips. And we did get some comments. From the planning
[1:00:12]
board. We're not very favorable, actually. And. Try to appear
[1:00:20]
with them and kind of talk about it. But. It
[1:00:25]
really comes down to how do you confer a land
[1:00:28]
use? Right? You have some options. This is a tool
[1:00:32]
for you to use if you don't like the tool.
[1:00:36]
You don't have to do it. So. It's either permitted
[1:00:42]
use. A special exception. Use right. Those things happen through
[1:00:44]
the planning board. A zoning action is a case by
[1:00:48]
case basis. So you're saying this isn't? Something that just
[1:00:51]
goes to the planning board. This is something that. We
[1:00:55]
want to comprehensively plan and do it on a case
[1:00:58]
by case basis. Of course it's still in the highway
[1:01:01]
business corridor. So it comes up and someone says, how
[1:01:05]
about here? And we go, well, how many other hotels
[1:01:08]
are near here? And what is this going to do?
[1:01:09]
To the does the community like it? Do we want
[1:01:12]
this? And you can discretion use that. Discretionary power to
[1:01:16]
say, yes, we do want to move forward, or no,
[1:01:19]
thanks. And so that gives you. Added scrutiny and ability,
[1:01:24]
not less, and it is comprehensive. In its approach, so
[1:01:28]
I just want to point that out. So I just
[1:01:31]
want to comment because I did read their comments and
[1:01:34]
ironically, they were sent to me. At the same time,
[1:01:36]
I received their comments on this as well as their
[1:01:39]
comments on the floating zone for the community housing fund
[1:01:43]
and so on. This one they said they do not
[1:01:45]
favor the use of floating zones for planning. But in
[1:01:48]
the housing overlay district, which is another floating zone, they
[1:01:51]
fully supported it. So those two kind of conflicted. And
[1:01:56]
I think there was a comment that I read that.
[1:02:00]
It was too close to a PDD. And we got
[1:02:02]
rid of pdds. And the reason why we're revisiting these
[1:02:06]
floating zones as zoning tools is because there is no
[1:02:09]
mechanism for things like this that benefit that broad community
[1:02:12]
sport and benefit the community. So. We're looking at a
[1:02:16]
way to narrowly. Allow these things with a lot of
[1:02:20]
discretion. And. Yet after they went and said PDD is
[1:02:25]
no good. One of their suggestions was that we cap
[1:02:29]
it at 40 units, but allow up to 65 with
[1:02:31]
community benefit, which was part of the whole reason why
[1:02:35]
pdds were done away with, right? Because community benefits were
[1:02:38]
seen as arbitrary and it became a give us this.
[1:02:40]
We'll give you that kind of scenario. We're saying? We
[1:02:44]
don't want that in the picture. We want to be
[1:02:45]
able to very narrowly take a use that right now.
[1:02:49]
Our code doesn't really allow anywhere and decide where it's.
[1:02:52]
Appropriate. And so to me, that's a very sensible thing
[1:02:57]
to do, and. I found it odd that. Wholesale did
[1:03:01]
not like this floating zone, but fully supported the housing
[1:03:04]
overlay district, which was also a floating zone. They had
[1:03:09]
their reservations, and I agree with you that. It didn't
[1:03:13]
entirely add up. In my view. Well. Could one say,
[1:03:17]
though, that. Between the two uses. Affordable housing. Which is
[1:03:25]
pretty limited and narrow as well. In comparison to this
[1:03:30]
particular measure. The implications of the use are much different.
[1:03:36]
Whereas with respect to the hotels, there's other things to
[1:03:39]
consider. A lot of those hotels are going to yield
[1:03:44]
a lot more additional traffic. Some of those hotels are
[1:03:49]
going to have more amenities. That would again yield additional.
[1:03:59]
Interaction and public use. But it's a good point. I
[1:04:06]
think. Perhaps. The planning board has some reservations because also,
[1:04:12]
this is another tool that. They typically have at their
[1:04:15]
disposal, and we're sort of kind of saying, hey, We're
[1:04:19]
going to. Now do it. I think they're reasonable. I
[1:04:23]
understand where Councilwoman McNamara is coming from. I also do
[1:04:26]
think that some of the, their concerns were reasonable. Sure.
[1:04:29]
I mean, they have some valid points. I'm just not
[1:04:34]
sure what you want to do. So crafting a tool
[1:04:37]
that you can use at your discretion. I mean, we've
[1:04:40]
got more pushback on increasing density for community housing, then
[1:04:43]
we've gotten for economic development, right? So. You're definitely consistent
[1:04:48]
with the comp plan because the comp plan tells you
[1:04:51]
to. Provide more small scale tourist accommodations. So that number,
[1:04:55]
first and foremost is consistent. When you go to land
[1:04:58]
it. You're creating a tool that exists in the code,
[1:05:02]
but it doesn't. Exist on a piece of until we
[1:05:04]
vote. Till you vote to land. Correct. And it's. Been
[1:05:08]
test. Tested in the courts. This is a valid method.
[1:05:11]
And we did start by looking at the entire. Zone
[1:05:15]
and saying, can we craft a code to allow it
[1:05:17]
as a special exception in this zone? And it was
[1:05:20]
just too prolific. And this is, like our only tool
[1:05:25]
that we have to be able to say we're not
[1:05:28]
going to allow it everywhere. We're going to only allow
[1:05:30]
it under very certain circumstances. Where it makes sense. So
[1:05:36]
the floating zone thing that people are skeptical of is
[1:05:39]
just another tool for you to be creative, be flexible
[1:05:43]
and promote the general welfare of the public. Who says,
[1:05:47]
hey, we want to reuse this property for this hotel
[1:05:50]
use. Wouldn't that be great? And you go, what? No.
[1:05:53]
It's not allowed. You could say. Well, it might be
[1:05:57]
allowed. Is it big enough? Is it so situated that
[1:05:59]
it makes sense? You get to start to ask those
[1:06:02]
questions and make a decision, it may be yes, and
[1:06:05]
it may be, no, but at least. You don't just
[1:06:07]
foreclose on the opportunity to take a look at it
[1:06:10]
when the community. Is asking you to, so. You're just
[1:06:15]
creating something that you can use at your will, and
[1:06:18]
I'm not. Trying to be harsh on the planning board.
[1:06:21]
The two contradictory things were. Yes, in this case, we
[1:06:23]
support it, which I can see their point. Of maybe
[1:06:26]
the community housing they see as a community benefit in
[1:06:29]
itself, but I see economic development as a community benefit
[1:06:32]
as well. I think I'm in the somewhat unique position
[1:06:37]
of having been on the planning board when those were
[1:06:39]
comments were drafted. And now being on the town board,
[1:06:43]
and I don't want to sit here. Right now and
[1:06:48]
try to explain all of the comments that were provided
[1:06:50]
by the planning board. I don't think. That's appropriate. I
[1:06:53]
think maybe at some point now. Or some point should
[1:06:57]
go through those points. I can tell you, however, There
[1:07:02]
was, and I think you kind of alluded to it
[1:07:04]
there. The community housing. I believe the board felt. There
[1:07:11]
is some compelling need to keep that process moving. That
[1:07:14]
there is. A need. To work on the community housing
[1:07:18]
aspect. I don't believe such a great sense of urgency.
[1:07:25]
For the hotel overlay district and that there was a
[1:07:28]
sense that it needed some more work. For example, I
[1:07:31]
know question that came up, the description. Is. Small to
[1:07:37]
mid size. Whatever the phrasing was we were talking. The
[1:07:41]
legislation talks up to 64 units. 64 units. I believe
[1:07:46]
everybody on the planning board felt like that's more than.
[1:07:50]
A small hotel. There is no relationship. Again, we talked
[1:07:56]
about this. There was no relationship between the size of
[1:07:59]
the property. And the number of units that might. Be
[1:08:04]
approved by the town board. There is. It has to
[1:08:08]
be a minimum of two acres. Right? But it could
[1:08:11]
be 64 units. On two acres or 64 units? On
[1:08:15]
ten acres. On ten acres. I think there was some
[1:08:18]
concern that? 64 units on two acres, I believe again,
[1:08:22]
Janice, from the meeting we had. Current regulations allow. What,
[1:08:26]
four units per acre or something? That's why you have
[1:08:30]
no hotels, because that's not going to work for anyone.
[1:08:34]
So what's the magic number? This is our question always.
[1:08:37]
What is the magic number? The industry says 75. So
[1:08:42]
anything for up to 75 is quote unquote small from
[1:08:46]
the rating system of hotels. We took ten off of
[1:08:48]
that and said 65. When you pick these numbers, there's
[1:08:52]
a certain level of. I hate to say arbitrary. We're
[1:08:56]
picking a number 65. Is not small, but. 40 is,
[1:09:00]
but no one's going to build one if it's 40,
[1:09:02]
because it's not economically feasible, then it's. The planning board
[1:09:07]
was concerned that the town board, which doesn't deal with
[1:09:10]
site plans and in essence, this is approval. Of a
[1:09:15]
lot of aspects related to a site plan. The town
[1:09:19]
board. Would approve 50 unit on a two acre piece
[1:09:23]
of property and kind of give it to the planning
[1:09:25]
board and say, make it work. If we go through
[1:09:28]
a full trial. Plans either way for each board. So
[1:09:33]
you're coordinating and collaborating? I've been involved. As a planning
[1:09:36]
board member with, I believe, two hotel or motel applications.
[1:09:43]
And was part of the whole planning board, and they
[1:09:45]
were very involved, and there was a great deal of
[1:09:47]
work that had to be done on both of them,
[1:09:49]
and a lot of questions. Sure. And that still is
[1:09:52]
under the purview of the planning board. What happens here
[1:09:55]
is that you're conferring the ability to have that use
[1:09:58]
conceptually, and then they go, the planning board and you
[1:10:01]
work out all the details. Conceptually with. It's 25 units.
[1:10:06]
It's 50 units. Somehow you. 're now a legislator and
[1:10:12]
this board, you tell me what the magic number is,
[1:10:14]
and I'll put it in the code. If you want
[1:10:16]
a different number, it will be the number. You want,
[1:10:19]
whether or not that will result in any actual. Something
[1:10:23]
is another case to be decided. Their question was allow
[1:10:28]
40, but allow up to the 65 if they give
[1:10:30]
you community benefit. So you're still allowing the 65, but
[1:10:35]
with community benefits. But what are those community benefits to?
[1:10:37]
Me. The community benefit is the economic development. It's the
[1:10:44]
influx of money into Hampton Bay has lost a lot
[1:10:46]
of when nightclubs were shut down. Like it. For good
[1:10:50]
or bad, they lost a lot of economic development. And
[1:10:54]
to have something like this come back in and to
[1:10:56]
set the parameters where we did, where. They don't become
[1:11:00]
transient housing. And the whole situation that happened with Bel
[1:11:03]
Air and seeing down the line and making sure that
[1:11:07]
that doesn't happen. But then also having enough units where
[1:11:10]
I guess maybe because we see that I think the
[1:11:12]
planning board doesn't have the benefit of the conversation that
[1:11:14]
we had. With the developer, whereby in order to have
[1:11:18]
a name brand behind this hotel to make sure. It
[1:11:22]
doesn't become. Long term housing, you have to have a
[1:11:26]
certain number of years. They won't even look. At you
[1:11:28]
if you're under 40 units or lower, because you just
[1:11:31]
won't get that brand recognition and you won't get also.
[1:11:35]
The long term benefit and the brand's reputation for not
[1:11:39]
allowing that hotel to become something that the community was
[1:11:42]
told they're not going to get. Plus you already do
[1:11:45]
have that in 330 34.9 a. These are your findings,
[1:11:49]
it says in determining whether to land a hotel development
[1:11:52]
overlay to townboard. In addition to its usual discretion in
[1:11:56]
considering a change of zone, which means you have all
[1:11:58]
the discretion to just say this. Isn't going to work
[1:12:01]
here. Shall also consider the amount of existing hotel accommodations
[1:12:05]
in the immediate area, the appropriateness of the site environmental
[1:12:09]
considerations the proposed development design to accommodate the number of
[1:12:13]
guest units proposed so. We hear a lot of people
[1:12:17]
say, You're £750 into a test. If you see that
[1:12:20]
that's happening, you. Would slim that number down, right? The
[1:12:24]
need for additional community benefits or offsite improvements. So in
[1:12:28]
the zone change realm, you don't need a PDD to
[1:12:31]
get some off site improvements as a mitigation or otherwise,
[1:12:35]
so you can do that anyway. And in addition, the
[1:12:39]
town board shall find the development is consistent with the
[1:12:41]
recommendations of the comp plan and will be beneficial, compatible,
[1:12:44]
harmonious with the surrounding land uses and not have a
[1:12:47]
significant impact upon the environment. So all these things come
[1:12:51]
under your purview to even say, does this make sense
[1:12:54]
in this location? If it doesn't make sense? You say
[1:12:58]
it doesn't make sense if you said it makes sense,
[1:13:00]
but say not at 65 only. What if we knocked
[1:13:03]
off these units? And kind of reconfigured. You always have
[1:13:07]
the referral power to the planning. Board to get that
[1:13:09]
coordinated input, which is important if you're a lead agency.
[1:13:14]
It's for you to debate, decide. I could rewrite it.
[1:13:17]
Do whatever you like, however. You want? I just want
[1:13:20]
you to know. I'm not averse to changing anything if
[1:13:25]
you want to. My suggestion might be now that the
[1:13:30]
town board is looking at those comments and has responses
[1:13:34]
to some of the comments, maybe dialogue. Through you to
[1:13:38]
say, well, like we do in federal applications and things,
[1:13:42]
you have to here's? The comments. Here's our responses. Maybe
[1:13:47]
there's a need to go back and. Say to town
[1:13:50]
boards, discuss these, and these are our feelings somehow. Well,
[1:13:54]
you would anyway. In the secret analysis. So when the
[1:13:57]
town board does its secret, it's called reason supporting. This
[1:14:01]
determination and you would have that maybe narrative that describes
[1:14:05]
your thought process, that even though we read these recommendations,
[1:14:10]
these things, and you have the chance to collaborate and
[1:14:12]
write that on your behalf. If I can be of
[1:14:16]
further assistance or any changes on here. Thank you. Thank
[1:14:20]
you. Well, I don't have any cards from the present
[1:14:26]
today, but how long has this been? Open for. We
[1:14:30]
had a work session, and I think this is the
[1:14:32]
first time it's on. December 9 1st public hearing. Then
[1:14:38]
it was tabled and brought back at the special meeting
[1:14:41]
in December. Then it was tabled again to today, if
[1:14:45]
I'm not mistaken. We didn't put a notice of adoption
[1:14:49]
in the packet, so that would be coming forthcoming. If
[1:14:54]
it's a will of the board. So we had a
[1:14:57]
meeting on December 9, and then we got the comments
[1:15:00]
from the planning board. And now we're having another public
[1:15:03]
hearing on the 13th. And the county has determined it
[1:15:06]
to be local determination. Would we be open to just
[1:15:09]
holding it open for one more meeting? I am. Just
[1:15:15]
so that it's not on for adoption today. No, I
[1:15:17]
understand. Just so that people. Can. Review this if they
[1:15:21]
have not heard it and have the opportunity to speak
[1:15:23]
once more. I mean, that way we know. Where does
[1:15:27]
the community stand on this? Because this is the third
[1:15:29]
public hearing. I think we've gotten. But if we're going
[1:15:32]
to make changes, All over again anyway, so we might
[1:15:36]
as well hold it open in case. There's any other
[1:15:40]
changes from the board based on the planning board's comments,
[1:15:45]
okay. So you'll let me know if you want changes?
[1:15:48]
Thank you. So we're keeping open for written comment, or
[1:15:51]
are we having another fourth public? Hearing. For two weeks.
[1:16:02]
I just feel as though. There's some additional discussion that
[1:16:09]
should be had. So we can have another work session,
[1:16:13]
but we can hold this open. I think if we're
[1:16:17]
having a work session and we're going to make major
[1:16:18]
changes. We may as well close this now. And I
[1:16:21]
re noticed a new public so here's. My position. I'll
[1:16:23]
just make my position known. I just think because. This
[1:16:27]
is a big process change, right? It's currently situated where
[1:16:32]
applicants are going before the planning board. Right, Tom, you
[1:16:35]
could comment on that. Now we're saying they could come
[1:16:38]
to us because. You laid it out very nicely about
[1:16:42]
how this happened. I'm just thinking maybe it requires. A
[1:16:45]
little bit more time just to review, make sure this
[1:16:49]
is all set up in a way. That works for
[1:16:51]
everybody. Because it is a big change that the town
[1:16:56]
of Southampton would adopt in terms of our development. Procedures.
[1:16:59]
We've had it open for two months, but if you
[1:17:00]
want to keep it open. It's fine. Made me a
[1:17:05]
little uncomfortable. Initially, I thought, okay, hotels are allowed in
[1:17:09]
highway business. But it's so unreasonably restrictive that nobody can
[1:17:16]
actually put a hotel there. Right. So that's why we're
[1:17:20]
going this way, rather than just allowing them with restrictions.
[1:17:26]
I feel a little uncomfortable about the way we're approaching
[1:17:30]
this, especially since. That's what I had said before. And
[1:17:34]
now the planning board staying too. And I don't know
[1:17:38]
why we can't just. Have. Zoning allowing for the hotels
[1:17:45]
with certain restrictions. And I know you said, well, this
[1:17:48]
could open us. Up to a proliferation of hotels, but
[1:17:51]
I think the market forces controls, things like that. In
[1:17:56]
a town like Southampton. That's on you. If you would
[1:18:00]
like to do that. We did an analysis, and there's
[1:18:02]
over 1400 parcels that would be eligible. So if that's
[1:18:09]
your will, that's fine. Just going into it with eyes
[1:18:12]
wide. Open. That. The market forces are competition. So where
[1:18:18]
one goes, another goes. And you would never be able
[1:18:20]
to say you can't be there. And you're there because
[1:18:23]
this one's there. And you're putting them all in hamlets
[1:18:25]
because there's none in villages. So that's our concern, and
[1:18:29]
that's a valid concern because. We're not trying to open
[1:18:33]
the floodgates and have hotels everywhere, either. We just. Want
[1:18:36]
to have the ability to put one as a conditional
[1:18:40]
use, basically. If you want one there. But outside of
[1:18:44]
that. It's really not an as of right or. Sort
[1:18:51]
of land use. That's just conferred by. It's confirmed by
[1:18:55]
a board. Like the planning board is a confirmatory board,
[1:18:57]
meaning you. Meet the criteria, you get the use. You
[1:19:00]
have the discretionary powers to say we don't. Even want
[1:19:03]
to deal with this right now. We don't like it.
[1:19:05]
The community is not happy. And so you have that
[1:19:08]
added layer of scrutiny and structure. So it's not a
[1:19:13]
big departure. We have lots of zones like this. We
[1:19:16]
have many. We have other overlays that are the same
[1:19:20]
way. For this reason, MF 44 SC 44. All your
[1:19:24]
zoning floating zones. They're only landed when you want them
[1:19:28]
to be otherwise. Nobody can just go to the planning
[1:19:31]
board and ask for. Yeah, see, something just doesn't. Seem
[1:19:34]
right about that, that you can say yes to it.
[1:19:38]
In one location. And then just refuse to consider it
[1:19:41]
in another. It's a zoning change. So you have discretionary
[1:19:44]
power. Right, Jim? In this one particular location. It's okay.
[1:19:50]
But down the street, we're not looking at it. It
[1:19:53]
just seems. As though. It's. I don't want to say
[1:19:56]
spot zoning, but it seems as though we're. Just saying
[1:19:59]
yes to this spot, no to that one, instead of
[1:20:01]
saying, here's a zoning district where it's allowed under these
[1:20:05]
conditions. We don't want any more pharmacies, so we're going
[1:20:10]
to tell you. Where the pharmacies can go instead of
[1:20:12]
saying, I mean, people aren't going to you're not going
[1:20:13]
to put ten pharmacies in one community because they're not
[1:20:17]
going to be able to sustain themselves. If you pick
[1:20:21]
the spot where one, that's a traditional way of zoning.
[1:20:25]
It's sort of becoming more antiquated because of the fact
[1:20:27]
that. We get challenged when we say only here. And
[1:20:35]
then. If I said okay. Right here is the hotel
[1:20:39]
zone, right there. Everybody else goes. What about me? Where's
[1:20:44]
my hotel zone? So. You can absolutely do what you're
[1:20:48]
saying. It's just a way of approaching it. Again. I
[1:20:56]
am not pushing my way on you. I'm giving you.
[1:20:59]
A more scrutinized way of doing it that gives you
[1:21:02]
more protection, not less. If you want to do it
[1:21:05]
the other way? It's still able to be done, but
[1:21:08]
then when. With lots of applications come flooding into the
[1:21:11]
planning board. It turns into, oh, my God, we need
[1:21:14]
a moratorium. We have to stop. We need to redo
[1:21:18]
this again. And so that's why I'm saying, isn't a
[1:21:20]
case by case, still on the highway, still over two
[1:21:23]
acres, still so situated that you have these parameters. A
[1:21:28]
little more. I think that's more Southampton than any other
[1:21:31]
way. Being very judicious in how it goes. But. It
[1:21:38]
is totally. Completely up to you how you want to
[1:21:41]
approach this. We tried it the other way. We said,
[1:21:44]
wow. It could get a lot of them. Let's try.
[1:21:49]
The way. That's like, just a little bit. What were
[1:21:52]
the criteria used? The first go? Round. Again. Anything, anywhere.
[1:21:58]
Well, we would just expand. Just say. In Hb allow
[1:22:04]
hotels. As a use in that category, se. Right. And
[1:22:09]
then we went through that up to 60. So make
[1:22:13]
it a special exception. We did that already. And now
[1:22:15]
we're coming full circle. Back to the beginning, because if
[1:22:18]
you do it the way, if you do it that
[1:22:19]
way with a special exception. You're talking about 1400 parcels
[1:22:23]
outside of villages that could have hotels on. Them. That's
[1:22:27]
not going to happen. But you can't say that's not
[1:22:28]
going. To happen. Because we don't know that. Because. Criteria,
[1:22:37]
right? And if they made it, they made it. Then
[1:22:40]
you don't have any discretion. But if they do hit
[1:22:42]
it, you have to give it to them, right? If
[1:22:45]
they meet the conditions, then. You're very limited as to
[1:22:50]
not approving something in a special exception, but I think
[1:22:53]
this has been a very healthy discussion. I think this
[1:22:56]
board can do it legally. You're legally sound either way
[1:22:59]
you want to. Do here. Listen. There's no resolution for
[1:23:04]
adoption on today. You can let me know. Take a
[1:23:07]
look at the code again, we can talk offline, tell.
[1:23:10]
Me how you want to fix it. I'm happy to.
[1:23:13]
I think we all know that. The four units per
[1:23:14]
acre. Can't have. I mean, that's not. You might as
[1:23:17]
well, just throw out planning board does say that those
[1:23:19]
standards don't make sense and they should be revisited. What
[1:23:23]
did you just say? Special exception standards themselves as they
[1:23:28]
are today. Would still be there. You'd have to still
[1:23:32]
revisit them. This is a way. To go forward, at
[1:23:36]
least in the short term, with something that you know
[1:23:39]
you want and allow for it if you do right,
[1:23:42]
the boardy barn process. We know we have something that
[1:23:46]
wants to be a hotel, and we say, how do
[1:23:48]
we confer that use. It's not allowed in highway business.
[1:23:51]
Let's give it to everybody. Everywhere in highway business. Or
[1:23:54]
let's find a way that they can avail themselves and
[1:23:56]
not just for them, but other people, too, where we've
[1:23:59]
mapped out, like, a reasonable amount. It's not just a
[1:24:03]
class of one. It's across the town. But not overwhelming.
[1:24:11]
That's the concern. If you want to do it the
[1:24:14]
other way. We already had that drafted and we said
[1:24:16]
that's. Kind of overwhelming. There's three hotels on 39, and
[1:24:20]
I can guarantee you there would be more if they
[1:24:22]
were allowed 100%. So that's the concern, is to be
[1:24:27]
more discretionary. Sort of slowly and see how this leads
[1:24:34]
versus. Kind of open it up. But again, the decision
[1:24:40]
lies with you. You want to do it that way.
[1:24:43]
That way is another way. There's more than one way.
[1:24:46]
So there's the way that I have said, which is
[1:24:48]
a floating zone, and you only take it and use
[1:24:50]
it when you want to. The other way is to
[1:24:52]
create a special exception. And it's just those standards. But
[1:24:55]
anyone can avail themselves. They don't come to. You, they
[1:24:58]
go to the planning board. If they meet those standards,
[1:25:00]
they get the use. Or. There could be. The only
[1:25:05]
other thing is, like, a use variance, which is, like,
[1:25:08]
practically impossible. So those are our tools. We're looking at
[1:25:12]
the toolbox going, how do we build? This. We only
[1:25:14]
have these three things. So it's up to you. Guess
[1:25:18]
you could try to refine the special exception standards. To
[1:25:22]
make it even that much more narrow. But even you
[1:25:24]
can only go so far with that. You can only
[1:25:26]
go so far with that, and, I mean, you can
[1:25:28]
do that, but. You probably will do that with the
[1:25:32]
comp plan updates and then you can extinguish. The floating
[1:25:35]
zone if you had enough. We're not there yet. So
[1:25:38]
what do you do between now and a comp plan
[1:25:39]
update. That's what this solution provides you. But again, I
[1:25:47]
don't want you to think I'm pushing anybody onto anything
[1:25:49]
because I'm just trying to give you. What you're saying
[1:25:53]
you want. We appreciate that you're working with us and
[1:25:57]
trying to come up creative. Trying to come up with
[1:25:59]
something that we're allowed to do. The state says you're
[1:26:02]
allowed to. Do it this way. You are a creature
[1:26:03]
of the state, and New York state says this is
[1:26:05]
a valid tool. So despite whatever, the planning board doesn't
[1:26:10]
favor the use of it, it is a valid planning
[1:26:12]
tool. It's been tested in court, and it is absolutely
[1:26:15]
permissible. So let me know. Given that it doesn't seem
[1:26:21]
like it should be. But you're saying that it is.
[1:26:24]
If the state. I think I even sent you the
[1:26:27]
case. It ends up being a case by case basis,
[1:26:29]
as long as you apply reasonable standards and you give
[1:26:33]
justifications for your decision on any particular application, then you
[1:26:37]
certainly could be legally sound. Yes. But is a valid
[1:26:43]
reason. To. I mean, I know we were saying before,
[1:26:47]
if one goes in one location and then another. Is
[1:26:51]
just half a mile down the road, and we think.
[1:26:54]
That's too close. That, to me, might not be a
[1:26:56]
valid reason. Because isn't that anti competition, right? That's what
[1:27:02]
you're. Case by case. You're not prohibiting competition. You're saying
[1:27:08]
the second one, perhaps, is not promoting the general welfare
[1:27:12]
because people have come out and said, you can't put
[1:27:14]
that there, that's, near whatever. Somebody is going to have
[1:27:18]
an argument as to why that's not a good idea,
[1:27:21]
and the general welfare. Is that the population of that
[1:27:25]
area is pointing to it saying, we don't want that.
[1:27:30]
They want to be able to do that. When it
[1:27:32]
comes to playing board, it's very difficult to do that
[1:27:34]
when it's just permitted or special exception use, whereas when
[1:27:38]
it's. Discretionary. It's much easier. So that's why I'm saying
[1:27:42]
put it with you. Because you have more power, discretionary
[1:27:45]
power, because you're the legislative body. Makes sense. Yeah, it's
[1:27:49]
a little bit more kin to the powers of the
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changes zone. It's the power of zoning. Yeah, definitely. You
[1:27:56]
have the power to amend your zoning ordinance. In as
[1:27:59]
much as it would promote general welfare. And we're not
[1:28:03]
talking about. Competition clauses or anything like that. I'm not
[1:28:07]
an attorney, but I'm just saying. We're talking about promoting
[1:28:10]
the general welfare. If you have a proliferation of hotels,
[1:28:13]
is that promoting the general welfare? Probably not. So you
[1:28:17]
would use that as your reason why you're not going
[1:28:19]
to have three more. Or something along those lines, but.
[1:28:24]
If you say everybody thought, like, we love whatever it
[1:28:27]
was, then you could say it does. So. It really
[1:28:31]
comes down to your discretion, and that's what this is.
[1:28:34]
I understand the supervisor's. Concerns. Me too. Certainly. We can
[1:28:39]
go further. There's always the possibility that someone will bring
[1:28:43]
an action against whatever. You say and say, and you
[1:28:45]
know that firsthand. So, yes, somebody always has the possibility
[1:28:50]
to appeal. Thank you. Thanks. Well, I mean, you're right.
[1:28:58]
If we're going to change it, it's. Going to be
[1:29:00]
a big change, so it would have to get re
[1:29:02]
noticed. So I moved to close the public hearing. Leave
[1:29:05]
it open for two weeks. Comments. All right. All in
[1:29:09]
favor? Aye. Thanks, Janice.
[1:29:19]
All right, so that brings us to public portion, and
[1:29:22]
we have a card from Eileen McFalen. Eileen, are you
[1:29:26]
still with us and want to speak? Thank you. Very
[1:29:33]
patient. Yes. Given all that was said, I don't know
[1:29:40]
three minutes is going to make it. From him to
[1:29:43]
base. I'm just speaking on behalf of my own thoughts,
[1:29:46]
not Pacific association today. I'm just going to refer to
[1:29:51]
what you were talking about with the floating zone, right?
[1:29:52]
Here. I'm not comfortable with it after hearing about it
[1:29:57]
over just the last couple of weeks. And I appreciate
[1:30:02]
the fact that you're thinking to hold off on something
[1:30:05]
that you're. Going to make a zoning code law rule
[1:30:10]
that will be on the books for a very long
[1:30:11]
time. So with the Indigo Rest hotel in Riverhead, when
[1:30:18]
the hotel owner came in, showed us the plans and
[1:30:21]
talked to the civic association last year. We had a
[1:30:25]
great attendance of people. I'd say there were about 70
[1:30:28]
people there. And we took a vote. Who liked it?
[1:30:33]
Everybody agreed it would be a great idea, and we
[1:30:35]
were all excited. Boardy barn was going. And so what
[1:30:40]
was going to place it? This seemed like a very
[1:30:43]
good. Beneficial community business to have there. And then it
[1:30:49]
never happened. And so we come to find out it's
[1:30:52]
a zoning situation. And then when I'm listening to the
[1:30:55]
floating. I'm like, Well, what is this business owner really
[1:31:01]
waiting on? That the zoning. Is not what he needs
[1:31:05]
for approval now. But you have discretionary. Thoughts on whether
[1:31:11]
it could be at this time. Or you do not.
[1:31:16]
So I don't even know what the hold up is,
[1:31:18]
and I'm wondering if they even know what the hold
[1:31:21]
up is before we completely lose them. Then the board
[1:31:26]
agreed. In the community. I believe everybody is supportive of
[1:31:30]
the hotel as the Borty barn location. But it's not
[1:31:33]
allowed under the current code, so we were going to
[1:31:36]
amend the code. But then the concern to allow the
[1:31:40]
hotels in that district. But then the concern was, oh,
[1:31:44]
if we do that, maybe there's going to be too.
[1:31:46]
Many. So. Let's try doing this floating zone where we
[1:31:51]
can put it as we see fit and now, there's
[1:31:55]
concerns about that kind of discretion. That's the summary. Of
[1:32:04]
the hold up, okay? Well, I have to agree. You
[1:32:08]
shouldn't rush on something that's going to remain. There for
[1:32:10]
a long time, but I don't think we ever have
[1:32:13]
to worry about. In 13 towns, 1400 applicants. At 100
[1:32:18]
hotels per town. I don't think that's ever going to
[1:32:21]
happen. So thank you, number one, for all the efforts
[1:32:25]
that you do to improve Hampton Bays very much. Appreciated
[1:32:29]
and it is definitely noticed. I'm here to talk to
[1:32:35]
you about. Situation and an issue that I'm not really
[1:32:39]
sure if you're talking about and. Working with yet, but
[1:32:42]
I was at the planning board the other night. And
[1:32:47]
it's about the propane depot that would like to bring
[1:32:51]
its business into Hampton. Base. So. I just want to
[1:32:55]
enlighten you. What you may not be aware of. First
[1:32:59]
of all, I don't even know how the proposal. Gets
[1:33:07]
started. I don't know if it started with the planning
[1:33:09]
board, and that's. The initial way to start. What they
[1:33:14]
want to do and where it goes from there. But
[1:33:16]
if it started before the planning. Board. I don't know
[1:33:19]
how it even got to the planning board. I did
[1:33:22]
use the word ridiculous. Thought that it could go where
[1:33:26]
it is. The other day I'm going to continue with
[1:33:28]
that. It is a ridiculous thought to think that that
[1:33:33]
type of business can go where they're asking to go.
[1:33:38]
So where they want it is right next door to
[1:33:41]
another propane storage facility. The facility now has been in
[1:33:46]
business for 70 something years. They've been in that position
[1:33:50]
for 15 years. They have never had a safety issue.
[1:33:54]
Never. They've got 80,000 gallons of propane on their property.
[1:34:01]
But propane depot wants to have $80,000 store 80,000 gallons
[1:34:08]
of storage. Right there on the same property, so. It's
[1:34:14]
not miles away. It's right there. So I did talk
[1:34:18]
to the owner of Quugs and Claire and I said,
[1:34:20]
well, It's the fact that you don't have enough, you
[1:34:23]
don't service enough. Do you plan on getting more storage
[1:34:27]
tanks? And I said, absolutely not. We're good with what
[1:34:30]
we've got going. We have a plan. We don't plan
[1:34:33]
on adding more. In the future. So does that mean
[1:34:36]
propane depot just plans on taking over all of. Quad
[1:34:40]
Sinclair business. If, in fact, it tries to, that means
[1:34:45]
you are agreeing to put. A local business owner out
[1:34:50]
of business for somebody who doesn't live there. So what
[1:34:55]
benefit is it to our community? In opinion of not
[1:34:59]
just mine, but many people. Zero benefit. So why approve
[1:35:04]
it? 30 seconds. This is not before this board, right?
[1:35:08]
That's. In the planning board. So just to keep in
[1:35:13]
mind that. Rapid recovery moved. And so with them moving,
[1:35:19]
we've got less traffic in that very exact intersection, which
[1:35:23]
is a good thing. Medical center built, going to open
[1:35:27]
up eventually, so we're going to have more traffic, maybe
[1:35:30]
not so much trucks, but we're going to have a
[1:35:32]
lot of traffic in and out. So now you put
[1:35:34]
propane depot. There with trucks and cars all congested in
[1:35:38]
that very small space. Ridiculous. It's the only word I
[1:35:43]
can think that makes sense. Time is up. Safety. Yeah,
[1:35:47]
I already talked about that. So that's what I wanted
[1:35:51]
you to be aware of in case it comes to
[1:35:54]
you. And we appreciate all you do. Thank you very
[1:35:58]
much. Thank you. All right. Andrew. Peter, is there anybody
[1:36:04]
on Zoom for public portions to another program? Someone just
[1:36:09]
raised their hand. Okay, bring them on.
[1:36:30]
No.
[1:36:41]
But.
[1:36:51]
Can you hear me? Hi. Yes. Welcome, councilman, welcome. Hello,
[1:36:58]
my name is David Lee, so I'm calling you. No
[1:36:59]
official capacity at all. I'm the calling. I try to
[1:37:03]
get on for the public hearing. Number one, I apologize.
[1:37:06]
I could not do that. But I can't keep for
[1:37:08]
the time to speak. Now, my name is David Lees.
[1:37:12]
I'm calling from your neighboring couch at the beast. Hansen.
[1:37:14]
I'm calling you. No. Official capacity. At all. I'm calling
[1:37:18]
my own behalf. Dear supervisor Moore, a distinguished supervisor. More
[1:37:22]
than other distinguished members of the town council, I'm calling
[1:37:25]
the capacity as a former member of citizens for access
[1:37:27]
rights and advocate of public beach access and safe, enjoyable,
[1:37:31]
beast driving. Beach Access is a regional importance and regional
[1:37:35]
southeastern and east tape combined. In that. The continued and
[1:37:40]
increasingly need for public reach, access to our beaches and
[1:37:43]
waterways. It's a ripeness and desired by our residents in
[1:37:46]
1686. Your potential actions, on length, I believe, are harmonious
[1:37:50]
with the town's comp plan and also the general obligation
[1:37:53]
law of the CPS as far as coastal resiliency and
[1:37:57]
open space and providing recreational opportunities. You will be providing
[1:38:01]
the future generations of opportunities to recreate a southeastern town
[1:38:05]
species in perpetuity I commend all of you for your
[1:38:08]
fort sight, courage and dedication to continue. The efficacy of
[1:38:11]
the public's desire to access the greatest natural resources that
[1:38:15]
our towns have. Is speeches. I thank you again for
[1:38:18]
allowing me to speak. Have a nice night. Thank you.
[1:38:22]
And thank you for your comments. Thank you council, for
[1:38:24]
participating. All right. There's no other comments. I
[1:38:33]
moved to close public portion. I have one comment. Oh,
[1:38:37]
please. Go ahead. Turn your mic on. Since it's a
[1:38:43]
public portion, I just want to wish the other council
[1:38:46]
person happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you. Had a very
[1:38:52]
nice birthday. Very far away from here. Are you ready
[1:38:59]
to go back to work? I am. You can close
[1:39:03]
it. Thank you. All right, I need a second. 2nd
[1:39:06]
all in favor? Aye. All right, let's move ahead with
[1:39:09]
the resolution. Town Board Resolution 33 of 2026. Award and
[1:39:16]
authorized supervisor signed contract with Quintel contracting. Corp. For tree
[1:39:20]
clearing at plant number three. Second. All in favor? Aye.
[1:39:26]
Town Board resolution 2026. Authorize purchases from WB Mason Company
[1:39:32]
incorporated using Suffolk county and eastern Suffolk bo seas contracts.
[1:39:37]
Second all in favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 43 of
[1:39:41]
2026. Award and authorized supervisor to sign a contract with
[1:39:44]
sax utility Solutions, LLC for water meter replacement. Second. All
[1:39:49]
in favor? Aye. On board resolution. 2026. To authorize the
[1:39:57]
acceptance of a donation of abandoned vehicle from the police
[1:40:00]
department, second and co. Sponsor, Madam Clerk. All in favor?
[1:40:06]
Aye. Town Board resolution 2026. 92 to authorize the supervisor
[1:40:14]
to sign any and all documents with iWork Systems Inc.
[1:40:17]
For Cloud hosted software. All in favor? Town Board resolution
[1:40:22]
2026. To authorize the supervisor to sign any and all
[1:40:27]
documents with source pass contemporary, LLC to provide immediate assistance
[1:40:32]
on a bank hours basis to resolve town's network connectivity
[1:40:36]
issues. Second, all in favor. Aye. Board resolution 94 of
[1:40:41]
2026, authorize the supervisor to execute any and all documents
[1:40:44]
pertaining to the 2026 transportation contract with Suffolk county office
[1:40:48]
for the agent second. All in favor? Aye. Town? Board
[1:40:53]
Resolution 95 of 2026 authorized supervisors execute a contract with
[1:40:57]
Supa county office for the aging for the home maintenance
[1:40:59]
repair program. Second. All in favor? Aye. Town board resolution
[1:41:04]
2020. Six. Authorized supervisor. Signed contract with Al McClain, associate
[1:41:13]
engineer survey DPC for professional engineer service associated with design
[1:41:18]
permitted for stormwater quality improvement at shore Road and yacht
[1:41:22]
drive in reps and second. All in favor? Aye. Town
[1:41:28]
Board resolution 2026. Authorized to change order professional service related
[1:41:34]
to the engineer service. At Penny park with Alkay McLean,
[1:41:39]
association engineer and survey second. All in favor? Aye. We're
[1:41:44]
getting closer. Town Board resolution 98 of 2026 recalling Amend
[1:41:49]
Town Board resolution number 2025 1529. Authorize the supervisor to
[1:41:54]
execute an agreement with Long island telecommunications and Electronic Services,
[1:41:57]
Inc. For the portable radios the Hampton Bays Water District
[1:42:01]
second. All in favor? Aye. Resolution 2026. 99 authorized supervisors
[1:42:09]
dismit a grant application for the 2025 26 local government
[1:42:13]
official grant program for Regent Marine operates insurance. I asked
[1:42:18]
other town board members if they would like to co
[1:42:19]
sponsor this with me. Sure. 1 second. Yes, thank you.
[1:42:27]
All in favor? Michael. Town Board Resolution 2026 100 authorized,
[1:42:34]
supervised to submit a grant application for the 2025 26
[1:42:39]
local government efficient grant program to Regent stormwater. And maintenance
[1:42:44]
share service project second and co sponsor. Yes. I like
[1:42:48]
the whole town. Would it do? This. Please be glad
[1:42:50]
to know. And these two grants are. Yes. These two
[1:42:55]
grants, what we applying for? Rescue barge and a backpack.
[1:43:05]
With other. Villages. Yeah. And it's really great for shared
[1:43:11]
services. We'll all benefit from that. Yes. All in favor?
[1:43:15]
Aye. Aye. Town Board resolution 103 of 2026. Recall and
[1:43:20]
Amend Town Board resolution 2020 511 eight authorize the supervisor
[1:43:25]
to sign a contract extension with York Analytical Laboratories Inc.
[1:43:28]
To provide water analysis to the Hampton based water District.
[1:43:30]
Second, all. In favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 2026.
[1:43:41]
108 authorized pushes of road salt and treated salt and
[1:43:46]
emergency standby. Road salt from New York State OGS contract
[1:43:50]
from Atlantic Salt Inc. And appliance, LLC. Second. All in
[1:43:58]
favor? Aye. Reservoir Finn 2026. 0109 authorized who fires the
[1:44:05]
sign contract extend with United Metro Energy Corp. For ultra
[1:44:10]
low diesel fuel second. All in favor? Aye. Town Board
[1:44:15]
resolution 2026 co sponsored with Tom Naily. 2026.
[1:44:25]
For 2026. Notice submitted for glass crusher at North Sea
[1:44:29]
Transport station. All second. All in favor? Aye. Town board
[1:44:38]
resolution. 2026. Notice the bidder for street sign
[1:44:48]
blanks and trucked seats and traffic mocking second. All in
[1:44:54]
favor? Town Board resolution 81 of 2026, co sponsored with
[1:44:59]
council person Pell authorized first time home buyers down payment
[1:45:02]
assistance funding from the community housing fund. Second. Town board
[1:45:08]
resolution 2026. I cut you off after you called for
[1:45:11]
the vote. Was it just you being. I just asked
[1:45:17]
to add myself. You always want to add. Yes. Can
[1:45:20]
I get added to that too, please. Hear what's going
[1:45:24]
on at the other end. Did you want to be
[1:45:25]
added or your voting or. What are you doing? Want
[1:45:29]
to be added to the first time home buyer resolution.
[1:45:32]
Okay. Yeah. Okay, so the whole board. I can't hear
[1:45:37]
what you're saying. Yes, for me, please. Okay, so I'll.
[1:45:41]
Just add Tom. Then we just need to vote. All
[1:45:44]
right. All in favor? Aye. Sorry. Town Board resolution 2026.
[1:45:52]
To authorize the town attorney to accept settlement from National
[1:45:55]
Union Fire Insurance Company for damage to a Southampton town
[1:45:59]
playground. Second. All in favor? With
[1:46:09]
these? Yes. Sponsor with Michael Isil. At Town Board resolution
[1:46:18]
2026. Resolution to adopt the Mantown code. Chapter 312. Vehicles
[1:46:24]
and traffic, article five, turning movement section 312. 72.2 right
[1:46:31]
turns forbidden. Second. All in favor? This one I'm going
[1:46:37]
to have to amend on the floor. It's co sponsored
[1:46:42]
with Mike Azilla. Again, councilman resolution 2026. Resolution to adopt
[1:46:51]
the man Town code 312 vehicles and traffic. I moved
[1:46:56]
to amend for. The subscription error on page 35. The
[1:47:02]
two changes that indicated north and south should say south
[1:47:06]
on page 37 where it indicates. Should be. Second to
[1:47:14]
the amendment. Just one amendment. Page 37. It's 35 and
[1:47:22]
37. Boredom drive and lynn road. Three new stop signs
[1:47:29]
in Hampton Bays, south of Montreal Highway. So, all in
[1:47:34]
favor to the amendment? Aye. As amended. As amended. Same
[1:47:41]
second. All in favor? Aye. I'm going to abstain. I
[1:47:44]
wasn't part of the board during the public hearing process
[1:47:47]
for that, so I'll abstain.
[1:48:03]
Again sponsored with Michael Azilla Town Council. 2026. After three
[1:48:10]
crawl vehicles and traffic for purpose of removing three yield
[1:48:14]
intersection enhancement south and Montrock highway second. Thank you. The
[1:48:22]
rooms being replaced with the stop sign. Yes. All in
[1:48:27]
favor? Aye. I'll abstain again. I wasn't at that public
[1:48:30]
hearing. Wasn't on the board. Again co sponsor, councilman Michael
[1:48:38]
Azilla. Resolution 2026. Resolution to adopt the Mentown code. Chapter
[1:48:45]
312, vehicles and traffic, article three stop sign, intersection 312
[1:48:50]
at East Cork Tyana and Hembase Hamilton. Section north of
[1:48:56]
Montok highway. Second. We had the public hearing. Yes. All
[1:49:03]
in favor? Town Board resolution 2026. Conic Bay Region Community
[1:49:11]
Preservation Fund Tax refund to thoroughbred title Services LLC regarding
[1:49:17]
a tax overpayment. Second. All in favor? Town Board resolution
[1:49:23]
44 of 2026, co sponsored with council members Tell and
[1:49:27]
Ayasilli authorizing an installation of three new street lights on
[1:49:31]
Noyak Road and Noyak second. All in favor? Aye. Town
[1:49:35]
board resolution 2026. To appoint Frank Belson to custodial worker
[1:49:42]
two, and municipal works second. All in favor? Town Board
[1:49:46]
resolution 2026. Craig Carroll to maintenance mechanic. Two in municipal
[1:49:53]
works second. All in favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 2026.
[1:50:02]
To appoint Robert McConnell to custodial worker. Two in municipal
[1:50:06]
work second. All in favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 2026.
[1:50:13]
To appoint Brandon Martinez Jimenez to sanitation helper in waste
[1:50:17]
management. Second. All in favor? Aye. And Town Board Resolution
[1:50:23]
2026 10 one to accept the retirement of Eric Benson.
[1:50:28]
Second all in favor. Congratulations to everyone. Town Board resolution
[1:50:34]
105 of 2026 resolution co sponsored with council members Pell
[1:50:39]
and Aya silly. And supervisor Moore resolution setting a public
[1:50:43]
hearing to amend chapter 111 in connection with special parking.
[1:50:46]
Permits. Second on the motion. This is to amend the
[1:50:51]
town code. And to continue to allow East Hampton town
[1:50:56]
residents that live in the village of Sag Harbor. To
[1:51:00]
purchase permits. That allow them access. To Long beach, but
[1:51:06]
they will no longer be permitted to. Buy passes that
[1:51:11]
allow access to our ocean beaches of W. Scott, Cameron,
[1:51:14]
Sagmain and Mecox. Beach. We have found that the lost
[1:51:19]
revenue on those. Is quite a lot of money and.
[1:51:25]
Also, Scott W. Cameron is a resident only beach, and
[1:51:29]
those beaches have become very crowded. And so it doesn't
[1:51:33]
seem right to take access from town residents away and
[1:51:37]
sell access. To east Hampton Town residents, they will still
[1:51:41]
have access to Long beach because that was in the
[1:51:43]
deed for Long beach that they have to have access.
[1:51:45]
But if they want to enjoy our the town, ocean
[1:51:48]
beaches. They have to buy a non resident permit. But
[1:51:51]
we love our east ham. Hampton neighbors. Yes. That's on
[1:51:55]
for January 2727. 2nd. All in favor? Aye. Downboard resolution
[1:52:02]
2026. 10. Two to authorize the acquisition. Of cosponsored by
[1:52:09]
council member Aya Silly to authorize the acquisition of an
[1:52:12]
historic preservation and conservation easement on property located at eleven
[1:52:16]
Walnut Avenue in the hamlet of East Quag and to
[1:52:19]
amend the community Preservation project plan and the CPF management
[1:52:23]
and stewardship plan to include said property. Second, all in
[1:52:26]
favor. And then with the two walk on. Town Board
[1:52:35]
resolution id number 202-6159 co sponsored by council member Pell
[1:52:42]
to authorize the supervisor to execute a contract with all
[1:52:45]
island testing Associates, Inc. For professional services related to special
[1:52:49]
building inspections at the West Hampton Community center. Second, they
[1:52:53]
have to test the concrete. And their compaction. Make sure
[1:52:56]
everything's being done properly. Better to test it now and
[1:52:59]
deal with it later. All in favor? Aye. We should
[1:53:04]
tell them a quick brief about the meeting we had
[1:53:06]
up there on Monday. Had a progress meeting. With all
[1:53:10]
the contractors, and they're all very motivated. The footings have
[1:53:13]
been poured and. Now they're putting up the rebar so
[1:53:17]
they can pour the foundation. This was the week to
[1:53:19]
pour. They were putting the Friday moles. Molest Town
[1:53:29]
Board resolution id number 20261. Six two. Yes, the warrant.
[1:53:35]
Number one. Capital number one. CPS number one of January
[1:53:39]
13, 2026. 2nd all in favor? Aye. That's it. Anybody
[1:53:45]
got ale? Anything else? All right. There's no further business.
[1:53:52]
Then I moved to just can't wait one more last.
[1:53:54]
Time. Just can't wait to go use that on new
[1:53:57]
beach. Yeah. Next week. A couple of weeks. All right,
[1:54:04]
so I moved to close the meeting. Second. All in
[1:54:07]
favor? Thanks, everyone. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. It's interesting
[1:54:11]
that dave.