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[0:00] Okay, we'll get going. Welcome everybody
[0:02] to Spanish Fork City Council meeting on
[0:05] March 24th, 2026. We appreciate a room
[0:10] full of people. This is a great meeting.
[0:12] Thank you for coming and uh it's been a
[0:14] while. We feel like hope we remember how
[0:17] to do this. We we uh we had a
[0:20] >> it's been nice.
[0:21] >> Seth hasn't minded it, but uh we're glad we're here and that you're
[0:25] here with us. Uh just like we always
[0:27] start these meetings out in Spanish
[0:29] fork, um we have a prayer and a
[0:32] motivational message and then uh
[0:34] Councilwoman Beck will lead us in the
[0:35] pledge. Uh Councilman Oiler will give us
[0:39] the prayer tonight.
[0:41] We'll go ahead and pray.
[0:45] Father in heaven, we express our
[0:48] gratitude tonight for this opportunity
[0:49] that we have to meet as a city. We're so
[0:51] thankful to live where we do and for the
[0:53] beauty that surrounds us. Father, we're
[0:56] grateful for those in Spanish Fork that
[0:58] serve and grateful especially for our
[1:00] first responders, for our police and our
[1:02] fire and EMS and ask a blessing on them
[1:04] and their families. Continue to protect
[1:06] them as they serve our community.
[1:09] Father, we're grateful for the freedoms
[1:10] that we enjoy living where we do and ask
[1:13] thee to also protect those that fight to
[1:17] preserve our freedoms. We're grateful
[1:19] for them.
[1:20] Bless us this night as we make decisions
[1:23] that will affect those that live in
[1:24] Spanish Fork that we can be led and
[1:26] directed to do what's right to make the
[1:29] correct choices and grateful for those
[1:31] responsibilities that we have and pray
[1:34] for these things and do so in the name
[1:36] of Jesus Christ. Amen.
[1:38] >> Amen.
[1:39] >> Please stand and repeat the pledge after
[1:40] me.
[1:43] I aliance to the flag of the United
[1:47] States of America and to the republic
[1:50] for which it stands. One nation under
[1:53] God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:56] justice for all.
[1:57] >> Thank you.
[2:00] Councilman Oiler and
[2:01] Councilwoman Beck. Um before we get to
[2:04] recognitions, Councilman Marshall is
[2:06] away on business, so we'll excuse him
[2:08] tonight. Uh and again, thank you uh
[2:10] everybody else for being here. Um
[2:13] recognitions, we got a few of them
[2:15] tonight to go through which we're
[2:16] grateful for. Part of best part of
[2:19] council meetings sometimes. We'll we'll
[2:20] start with Dale first and then uh we'll
[2:24] go to Jordan and then we'll go to Corey
[2:27] after that for their respective
[2:28] departments. Mr. Dale Robinson.
[2:38] » Okay. Uh this is for uh employee of the
[2:42] quarter. Um and I'd like Ryan, why don't
[2:45] you come up please? We'll have your wife
[2:48] join us in just a minute.
[2:50] I'm going to read here the uh what was
[2:53] turned in and submitted on Ryan. Uh Ryan
[2:57] is our golf pro up at the Oaks Golf
[2:59] Course. For those of you that don't
[3:01] know, uh Ryan continues to knock it out
[3:04] of the park at the golf course, and we
[3:06] have failed to recognize the
[3:07] significance of his great work.
[3:10] >> He manages a golfer friendly operation
[3:12] that people flock to. But at the same
[3:14] time is all business. In the last 12
[3:17] months, the golf course has generated
[3:19] over $2.8 million in revenue.
[3:22] It has continued to increase
[3:24] incrementally each year over the last
[3:25] several years. This can be attributed to
[3:28] the tremendous culture that Ryan has
[3:30] created in the pro shop as well as out
[3:32] on the course. He and his staff have put
[3:35] together a really nice product with a
[3:37] friendly atmosphere and a top-notch
[3:39] playing facility. They work hard to
[3:41] continue to improve it every year. It
[3:44] wasn't too many years ago that this same
[3:46] facility was being subsidized by the
[3:48] general fund and now it is generating
[3:50] significant profit thanks to Ryan and
[3:53] his team.
[3:54] It is time to recognize Ryan for uh the
[3:57] outstanding contribution that he is
[3:58] making to Spanish Fork City. Uh and let me just add uh yeah, Ryan came into
[4:05] some pretty tough circumstances
[4:07] uh and really appreciate uh what he has
[4:11] done uh to change the atmosphere and the
[4:14] culture at the golf course. Uh and we've
[4:17] watched that incrementally change over
[4:18] the years. um cuz he handles his
[4:21] business uh professionally. He has a
[4:25] very professional staff. Um I consider
[4:28] him to be uh my dear friend. He's a joy
[4:31] to work with. Uh and appreciate him and
[4:35] glad for the opportunity that we have to
[4:37] be able to recognize. I don't know that
[4:39] you've received this before, have you?
[4:41] How long you've been here?
[4:42] >> 15 years.
[4:44] Wow. Seems like yesterday. So,
[4:47] he's been here a long time and uh he
[4:49] certainly has has earned this honor and
[4:52] it's too bad to had to wait till the
[4:54] golf course was flourishing to recognize
[4:56] his good work, but uh glad that we have
[4:59] the opportunity to do that now. So, uh
[5:02] appreciate this and uh thanks Ryan.
[5:05] >> Thanks.
[5:14] » Yeah, we don't let him get away with
[5:15] that speech. Yeah. Yeah.
[5:17] >> And also I like his wife Lucilla to come
[5:19] up as well. We we recognize in our
[5:22] profession as well as many others that
[5:24] man these are family businesses and
[5:25] there's sacrifices that are made
[5:27] everywhere. So we appreciate her uh
[5:30] willing to let him live at the golf
[5:31] course for the last 15 years at least.
[5:34] So yeah, he's going to make you speak.
[5:36] So I like it.
[5:37] >> I didn't plan anything. So uh thank you.
[5:40] I appreciate it. Uh thanks Dale. Uh
[5:43] thanks to all of you for your support of
[5:45] me and the golf course and uh it's kind
[5:48] of a golden golden era right now. Uh
[5:51] it's busy. Everybody's wanting to play
[5:52] golf. So we try our best to to treat him
[5:56] right. And you know Don and everybody at
[5:58] the golf course does a great job keeping
[5:59] the course nice and so just tell the
[6:03] city residents and you thank you and
[6:05] appreciate this. Thanks to my wife
[6:06] Lucilla. uh a lot of hours
[6:10] away from home and the kids and
[6:12] everything. So, uh appreciate it. Thank
[6:15] you,
[6:16] >> Ryan. While I got you here, uh this is a
[6:19] year every year we live in a desert and
[6:21] so there's water on top of everybody's
[6:24] mind, but this year is a a exceptional
[6:27] bad year for water and uh and so I've
[6:30] seen some people talk about golf
[6:31] courses, you know, in general and and what that is, but maybe speak a
[6:36] little bit. I think we've said it up
[6:37] here a number of times, but it's gonna
[6:39] it's going to be important in years like
[6:40] this to make sure people have the right
[6:42] information, the investments that we've
[6:44] made years ahead in the golf course of a new system and and uh and all that
[6:50] goes into that. Um for you guys to be
[6:53] able to just water the areas that need
[6:56] to be watered that you couldn't do that
[6:58] just a few years ago now. Um pretty
[7:01] important part of water conservation in
[7:04] our city.
[7:04] >> Yeah. So our our new irrigation system
[7:06] does allow us to isolate one head at a
[7:08] time. Before it was three heads were on
[7:11] one um I don't know what you call valve.
[7:14] Now we can just do one head at a time.
[7:16] We can do it all from a computer. And so
[7:18] we will
[7:20] take every measure we can to to do
[7:23] whatever we need to do to to conserve
[7:25] and and uh just keep the areas that are
[7:27] most important watered. So Don and his
[7:30] staff are going to be on top of it. And
[7:32] so hopefully we get some moisture and
[7:35] rain, but if not, we'll we have the
[7:38] systems in place to to do our best.
[7:40] >> How about the wind? Can you shut off the
[7:41] wind?
[7:43] >> Yeah, I wish.
[7:46] >> Um, yeah, I'll just take this moment to
[7:48] Ryan. Ryan uh is a is a pro in in in the
[7:53] label that he carries as a as as a golf
[7:56] pro, but he is a pro in in business and
[7:58] just couldn't say good enough things
[8:00] about you, Ryan, and the way you operate
[8:02] up there and and it shows in how many
[8:04] people want to come play golf at at our
[8:06] place. Golf is popular, but uh golf is
[8:09] really popular at the Oaks. So, thank
[8:11] you for you and your staff and Don and
[8:14] everybody that that keep that running uh
[8:16] top-notch. is just an important place
[8:18] for our community, our citizens, uh but
[8:21] an important place for visitors, too.
[8:23] So, you're you're a big part of the
[8:25] success and thank you.
[8:27] >> Thanks, everybody.
[8:37] » And the official document there,
[8:39] >> signed piece of paper.
[8:41] >> Yeah.
[8:44] » All right. Here we go.
[8:49] Thank you.
[8:50] >> Congratulations.
[8:51] >> Thanks, Ryan.
[8:52] >> Appreciate it.
[8:54] >> Welld deserved.
[9:01] » Okay, Jordan's up next.
[9:11] I feel like I'm up here every quarter. I
[9:13] think this is the fourth or fifth
[9:15] employee we've we've had in the last
[9:16] year or two. Um, but we have awesome
[9:19] staff and tonight is is no exception.
[9:22] Um, we have Shaolin Bigs and I'm going
[9:24] to ask her to come on up with me. Um,
[9:28] Shawn likes to tease me, so
[9:31] this is my chance, I think. And I didn't
[9:34] think Shawn had been here long enough to
[9:36] get employee of the quarter. I was like,
[9:37] you need to pay your dues. But Shawn has
[9:39] been amazing and it's welld deserved.
[9:42] Um, we've really enjoyed Shalon. Um,
[9:45] yeah. So, I'm going to read uh this
[9:47] nomination. Uh, Shalon is so kind and
[9:50] helpful to all customers and co-workers.
[9:52] She always takes time to help customers,
[9:54] whether it is to answer questions or
[9:55] helping them to fill out applications,
[9:58] making them feel like they are important
[10:00] and not rushed. She is also kind to all
[10:02] her co-workers, making everybody feel
[10:04] like they are her best friend. She is so
[10:06] easy and fun to work with. And there's
[10:08] quite a few of her co-workers in the
[10:10] back there that they're here not on not
[10:13] on the clock, but here to support Shawn
[10:15] because they love her. Shelon's been
[10:17] great. Um,
[10:20] yeah, she hasn't been here super long,
[10:21] but she's been great. Um, the young and
[10:23] the old all love her. For the little
[10:25] kids that are drugged into the office by
[10:26] their parents, she has a treasure chest
[10:28] that she opens and bribes them and wins
[10:30] their love. Um, and for the the elderly
[10:33] that come in to pay their bills, she
[10:35] wins them over. Um so much so that her
[10:37] co-workers have deemed her the senior
[10:40] companion of the office and she has a a
[10:42] certificate and everything.
[10:44] >> Oh yeah,
[10:45] >> you're official there. Yeah.
[10:47] >> Um
[10:48] yeah, we knew that Shelon was a fit at
[10:50] Spanish city because of her deep love of
[10:52] all things rodeo. And she might be able
[10:54] to speak to that a little bit here in a
[10:56] second. Oh, you're going to have to say
[10:57] some words about the rodeo.
[10:59] >> Shelon is also very patient. She sits by
[11:01] two fluent Spanish speakers that seem to
[11:04] talk non-stop in Spanish, mostly about
[11:07] Shaolin. And she
[11:10] I think they are right. I from what I
[11:12] can gather, I think they're mostly
[11:14] talking about you, but you you put up
[11:15] with them. Well,
[11:16] >> um, in fact, the only thing I've ever
[11:18] told Sean that I want to improve upon is
[11:20] learning Spanish very quickly. We set
[11:23] goals like every three months. So,
[11:25] >> yeah.
[11:25] >> And like in three months, she should be
[11:27] fluent, right?
[11:28] >> Yeah. Right.
[11:28] >> Okay. Perfect. She's that's on her
[11:30] evaluation there. Um, but Shonen is
[11:33] amazing. We're we're lucky to have her
[11:35] and she's doing a wonderful job in our
[11:37] utility office.
[11:38] >> Don, you want you want want to say a few
[11:40] words?
[11:41] >> I would love to.
[11:50] » Well, when they I get nervous. My voice
[11:53] cries. So, oh my gosh. I don't know. I'm
[11:57] emotional, but um I've only been here a
[11:59] year and a half and I feel like I'm just
[12:01] they're my family now and stuff. And um
[12:05] when they come in to do the employee of
[12:07] the quarter, they bring in the guns,
[12:09] bubble guns, and like the big check and
[12:11] everything. And I was like, "Where's my
[12:13] bubble gun?" And I was like, and
[12:14] everybody's ignoring me and I'm like,
[12:16] "Where's my gun?" And Shel's like, "Oh."
[12:18] Oh, and Hendrickson was like, "Anyway,"
[12:20] and this anyway, they were kind of like
[12:22] just ignoring me. And I was like, "Okay,
[12:24] I guess I won't get one this time and
[12:26] celebrate with everybody." And so then
[12:29] Jordan come around and he like open the
[12:31] check and it had my name on it. I was
[12:33] like, "Oh my gosh." I was just like,
[12:35] "I'm so grateful and so you guys don't
[12:38] even know." And so, so, um, the only
[12:41] regret I have is not getting this job
[12:44] years ago and being able to work with
[12:46] these amazing people with an amazing
[12:49] city. Um, me and my husband, we live in
[12:52] PAC. Don't judge. And, um, we're Spanish
[12:56] forers and we've been here our whole
[12:59] lives until we moved to PAC. Anyway, but
[13:02] um I was trying to get on with either
[13:05] PAC or Spanish and I just kept telling
[13:06] my husband, I just want to work for
[13:08] Spanish work city. I don't want to work
[13:10] for PAC. And anyway, I got it and I'm
[13:13] just thrilled. I couldn't be happier
[13:14] with everybody. So, thank you.
[13:26] » Can
[13:27] we work?
[13:32] I don't know if we can get them. Can we
[13:33] get them?
[13:34] >> Wouldn't try.
[13:35] >> How many did you bring?
[13:40] » Let's do the family first,
[13:42] >> Jordan. Let's do family.
[13:44] >> Thank you so much.
[13:50] » Congratulations.
[13:50] >> Move this way, please.
[13:52] >> There you go. Thank you very much.
[13:56] » There we go. Boom. Boom. And
[14:00] Thank you. Yeah, let's ask let's have
[14:03] the family rather
[14:06] Spanish speakers.
[14:17] Thank you.
[14:20] » Awesome. Thank you. Thank you guys.
[14:23] >> Are we getting a rodeo story?
[14:28] I don't know. I don't I rodeoed when I
[14:31] was younger and so um yeah, my kids have
[14:35] taken that over now. Those are my boys
[14:36] and they rope a lot. We spend a lot of
[14:39] time at our fairgrounds. Like I was
[14:41] there last night. I seen you there too
[14:43] at the legacy dinner and I love
[14:45] everything. Rodeo, agricultural,
[14:47] stock shows. It's just been my life. I
[14:50] grew up on a farm, so yeah, the water is
[14:52] a little scary with our pastures and our
[14:55] hay and stuff, but yeah, I really don't
[14:58] have a rodeo story. I've kind of, like I
[14:59] said, my kids have taken over. They high
[15:01] school rodeo for years, and I just love
[15:03] it. It's our life, so different
[15:05] lifestyle than most, but I do love it.
[15:08] So,
[15:08] >> that's awesome. Thank you, Shan.
[15:10] >> Thank you.
[15:10] >> Congratulations.
[15:12] >> Thanks a lot, guys.
[15:17] » Okay, Mr. Pierce.
[15:24] » It's all right. Mayor, I invited Travis
[15:27] to come talk about our next uh Russell
[15:30] Jackson. Russ, why don't you come on up
[15:32] as well?
[15:37] » Sounds good.
[15:39] >> No, sounds good.
[15:41] No, I'm excited uh and happy tonight to
[15:43] get to introduce uh Russell Jackson.
[15:45] Most of you probably already all know
[15:46] Russell. He's been around a long time.
[15:49] Um, I'm gonna read his nomination, then
[15:51] I want to say a few more words, but
[15:54] says Russ is unher is an unherald
[15:57] hard worker. He has helped the GIS
[15:59] division in so many ways. He's asked to
[16:01] wear a ton of hats. He helps with Blue
[16:03] Stakes as GIS surveying and so much
[16:06] more. He is a phenomenal in helping get
[16:08] the our GIS mapping server um set up.
[16:12] His expertise has been invaluable. every
[16:15] time there's a massive problem with GIS
[16:17] that is difficult to solve. Russ has
[16:18] been invaluable in solving those issues.
[16:21] He doesn't get enough credit for all he
[16:22] does for Spanish Fork City and that's
[16:24] why I'm nominating him because he
[16:26] deserves some recognition for all that
[16:27] he does for the GIS division. Um, a lot
[16:30] of you guys don't know Russ has worked
[16:31] here for going on 25 26 years uh 23 of
[16:35] them full-time. He's wore about as many
[16:38] hats as you can out of cities. He's
[16:40] worked in the power department on the
[16:43] boring crew. He worked in the fleet. He
[16:46] worked uh with our water util or liquid
[16:48] utilities back when it was all combined
[16:50] into one. Um then he was blue stake uh
[16:53] the lead blue staker for for a number of
[16:55] years in which he had to deal with the
[16:57] I-15 core project which was late nights.
[16:59] I can imagine lots of late nights, long
[17:02] hours, making sure our utilities were
[17:04] safe and protected. Um he he does so
[17:06] much. We can go out on any job site and
[17:09] when no one can figure out what the
[17:10] utilities are doing, Russ somehow knows
[17:12] what those utilities are doing. Whether
[17:14] he's pulling out his witch sticks or
[17:16] just just going off of memory, he's uh
[17:19] he's invaluable to to keeping our city
[17:21] functioning and the utilities all
[17:23] working well and and now, you know,
[17:25] we've transitioned him into a role with
[17:27] GIS and and he's been amazing at that,
[17:29] too. So, um yeah, so excited to
[17:32] introduce Rush Jackson.
[17:40] Not a big speech giver, but if you have
[17:42] questions, I'm
[17:46] » Any questions for Russ?
[17:48] >> Out of all the hats you've wore here,
[17:49] what's been one of your favorites?
[17:54] » Uh,
[17:55] they've all been had their own aspects,
[17:57] but uh I've enjoyed all of them.
[18:01] >> Good answer.
[18:04] I thought he was going to say the new
[18:05] Post Malone hat. That's the hat he
[18:09] >> Well,
[18:11] how many years did you say that's uh
[18:13] >> 25 26?
[18:15] >> So
[18:15] >> the stretch
[18:16] >> 23 Well, just over 23 full-time. Um I
[18:19] worked for about two two and a half in
[18:22] motor pools mechanic. Um was about 17ish
[18:28] years public safety on the fire
[18:29] department and ambulance.
[18:31] >> Wow.
[18:31] >> Yeah.
[18:32] You have done it all. That's awesome.
[18:34] >> Pretty close.
[18:35] >> Yeah.
[18:35] >> There's not a lot of departments I
[18:37] haven't worked for.
[18:38] >> That's incredible. Well, well deserved.
[18:40] Congratulations. Thank you.
[18:52] » Thanks.
[18:54] Congratulations.
[18:57] » You bet. You better.
[19:02] They made it.
[19:11] » You ready?
[19:12] >> Nope. Okay,
[19:14] here we go.
[19:18] Thank you.
[19:28] Okay, very good. Thank you, family and
[19:32] friends and co-workers. Those are always uh great uh great parts
[19:37] of a council meeting and um it's just
[19:40] like what every one of those individuals
[19:42] said, that's it is long long days and
[19:44] long nights and and uh it's not lost on
[19:47] us up here just like it isn't on you
[19:49] that it's a it's a a family ordeal. So,
[19:52] thank you. uh those those are some
[19:54] pretty special people and it's an it's a
[19:56] great thing to to be able to honor them
[19:58] publicly and and uh hopefully give them
[20:00] a little give them a little money for
[20:02] it. Right. So, thank you. We we won't be
[20:05] offended if anybody needs to leave after
[20:07] this. The this agenda might go into the
[20:11] uh the wee hours of the night or morning
[20:14] depending on Okay, it won't go in the
[20:16] morning,
[20:17] >> but uh but we won't be offended if uh if
[20:19] people take off after that. Thank you.
[20:22] Um public comment section uh of the
[20:26] agenda. Mayor,
[20:27] >> we have the one item just above the the
[20:31] Utah Recreation Parks Awards.
[20:34] >> It's not on the printed. It's not on the
[20:36] >> I was looking at printed.
[20:37] >> It's not on the other as well.
[20:38] >> I'm on the digital.
[20:40] >> You you go digital.
[20:41] >> Oh, it is public content. Yeah.
[20:45] >> The Herpa Awards.
[20:47] >> Oh, yes. Okay. I've got that. Are you doing that? Is Dale doing that?
[20:53] >> Okay, perfect.
[20:55] >> I did see them here. I was wondering, do
[20:58] they just like to come to Yeah. Yeah.
[21:02] >> These are some good folks here, Dale.
[21:04] >> Yeah. We're going to I'm going to turn
[21:06] the time over to our Utah Recreation and
[21:08] Parks Association representatives.
[21:12] Leanne, you guys take it away. All
[21:13] right. Thanks for coming down.
[21:15] >> We're happy to be here. Thank you, Mayor
[21:17] Menden Hall and the council. We
[21:19] appreciate you. uh carving out a couple
[21:21] of minutes for us to come and and
[21:22] celebrate some great leaders in your
[21:24] communities. So, as Dell mentioned, my
[21:26] name is Leanne Pal. I'm the executive
[21:27] director of the Utah Recreation and
[21:29] Parks Association. Uh Janelle Payne is
[21:31] our URPA presidentelect and is the
[21:34] recreation director in South Jordan. So,
[21:36] the two of us will be um doing a couple
[21:39] of awards for you guys tonight. So, at
[21:43] uh URPA, we represent about 2,000 parks
[21:46] recreation professionals uh throughout
[21:48] the state of Utah. And each year we lead
[21:50] up to our um annual conference, we take
[21:53] nominations for a number of different
[21:55] awards. So, this year we had about 90 uh
[21:59] nominations for awards in 11 different
[22:01] categories. And so, we're here to
[22:03] present um uh two of those categories
[22:07] tonight uh to some outstanding rockstar
[22:09] parks recreation professionals. Uh
[22:11] before I do that, I would like to just
[22:13] take a moment and recognize um Dale and
[22:16] Bronco and all of the parks and
[22:18] recreation team because they are doing
[22:20] absolutely amazing work. And we love in
[22:23] parks and recreation, we feel like we
[22:25] are the connectors of people. like you look at all of your great spaces,
[22:29] the rodeo grounds, the new uh city fit
[22:32] center, the parks, the trails, the golf
[22:35] course, all of the places are the places
[22:37] where your community connects and it
[22:39] makes a difference um to have those
[22:42] great parks recreation professionals
[22:44] that are running and programming all of
[22:46] those spaces and those places for that
[22:48] to happen. So, we're very proud of our
[22:50] uh parks and recreation professionals
[22:52] and we understand that this work does
[22:54] not happen in a vacuum and it takes the
[22:57] leadership, city leadership, the mayor,
[22:59] the council, city administration to buy
[23:02] into the importance of parks,
[23:04] recreation. So part of part of our um
[23:06] reason for being here tonight is to
[23:08] thank you for that support and the you
[23:11] know honestly you're the only city
[23:14] council members that come down to our
[23:16] Utah Recreation and Parks Association
[23:19] conference and you're there and you're
[23:20] meeting people and you're seeing best
[23:22] practices and you're bringing them back
[23:23] to to um to your city and to your
[23:26] community. So we really appreciate that
[23:28] support. your parks and recreation
[23:30] professionals really appreciate that
[23:32] support and it shows in your community
[23:34] that investment in parks recreation is
[23:37] an investment in all of your people in
[23:39] your community. So, thank you very much
[23:40] for that. And I will let um Janelle do
[23:43] the the first award, the innovation of
[23:45] the year.
[23:46] >> Thank you. Thanks for having us. Again,
[23:48] this is a treat. I love to brag on my
[23:52] own staff, but to see statewide the
[23:54] amazing initiatives and efforts taking
[23:56] place is awesome. And I'll stick to the
[23:58] paper so I don't get off topic. But for
[24:02] the 2026 URPA Innovation of the Year, it
[24:05] was awarded to Wreck Online. Um, for
[24:08] more than 25 years, your city has
[24:10] developed and refined an in-house
[24:12] registration system. And what began as a
[24:14] local solution has grown into a powerful
[24:16] platform that rivals and in many ways
[24:18] outperforms a lot of the commercial
[24:20] recreation software out there. Thanks to
[24:23] the dedication and expertise of Susan
[24:25] Beckram and Jeremy Co, Re Wreck Online
[24:28] has continually evolved to meet the
[24:30] needs of a growing and dynamic
[24:32] community. Most recently with the
[24:33] opening of the amazing fit city center,
[24:36] um which I got to tour a little bit
[24:38] before this. It's awesome. Um the system
[24:40] has been expanded to manage memberships,
[24:43] daily admissions, reporting, and more.
[24:45] But beyond that technology, what makes
[24:46] it truly special is its impact. This is
[24:49] the system families use to sign up for
[24:51] programs, stay active, and stay
[24:52] connected in their community. In a field
[24:55] where many have tried and struggled to
[24:56] create seamless recreation software,
[24:58] Susan and Jeremy have built something
[25:00] remarkable. Their work has touched
[25:02] thousands of lives and stands as a model
[25:04] of innovation, dedication, and long-term
[25:06] vision. So, for their collaboration,
[25:08] creativity, and more than two decades of
[25:10] commitment, uh URPA is proud to
[25:12] recognize Wreck Online as the 2026
[25:14] innovation of the year.
[25:16] >> Wow. Congratulations.
[25:34] » Thank you.
[25:35] >> Wow. I just stand nowhere compared to
[25:38] him.
[25:43] » Matter is cool.
[25:46] >> Very cool. Good job, guys.
[25:48] >> Not used to this. All right.
[25:54] » Don't get too spaced apart. This is This
[25:56] is family.
[25:59] » Here we go.
[26:02] >> Thank you, James. Nice job, you guys.
[26:04] Thank you.
[26:12] Pete Innovation 27. If you twist, it
[26:19] changes.
[26:21] It's kind of interesting in our field to
[26:23] watch. We've we've worked with a group
[26:25] that's kind of been trying to create a
[26:27] solution like Wreck Online for for lots
[26:30] of different people. And I mean, they're
[26:33] putting millions of dollars into a
[26:35] system. They've got people from Google
[26:38] and all the places around like the best
[26:40] of the best working on this and they've
[26:42] only been able to get like one component
[26:44] in three years. So to look at the system
[26:47] that they have developed and that
[26:49] continually adapts and then of course
[26:51] with the addition of your recreation
[26:53] center to then be able to do all of the
[26:55] in-house things that it's doing. It
[26:57] really is incredible. So great work
[27:00] there. So, the second um award that
[27:02] we're presenting tonight is for the 2026
[27:04] URPA facility of the year, which is for
[27:07] your uh fit city center. And obviously,
[27:10] as you look around, everybody in this
[27:11] room understands what the dedication and
[27:15] sacrifice and all the things that had to
[27:17] come together to be able to build a
[27:20] beautiful facility, state-of-the-art
[27:22] facility, um like you have. I think um
[27:25] one of the things in parks recreation,
[27:26] we're kind of founded on three really
[27:29] important principles. Uh conservation
[27:31] and sustainability. So being really good
[27:33] stewards of land and spaces and
[27:35] opportunities. Uh health and wellness,
[27:38] like really understanding that we are
[27:40] all about health and wellness and trying
[27:42] to create the healthiest community
[27:44] possible. And then um recreation for all
[27:47] like intentionally going out and trying
[27:49] to make sure that we are providing
[27:51] opportunities for everybody in our
[27:53] community. And I think all three of
[27:56] those pillars have come together
[27:57] beautifully in your fit city center. And
[28:01] you just look at I just even looking at
[28:02] the name of the fit city center, right?
[28:06] like just understanding that it's really
[28:08] about being emotionally and mentally and
[28:11] physically fit and trying to get
[28:13] everybody that comes into the door to
[28:15] find their fit, right? Like to what is
[28:17] it that's going to make you a better
[28:18] person and the best version of yourself
[28:20] and trying to do that for every person
[28:22] in your community is really a standard
[28:25] that I think we all are looking for and
[28:28] I think has definitely been accomplished
[28:31] with this with this facility. So, we're
[28:34] just proud of the work that's gone into
[28:35] it that it's finally open. Again, the
[28:38] dedication of this group to to find the
[28:41] funding and to make it happen and to
[28:43] it's been over a decade of trying to put
[28:45] this together. And it's now finally
[28:47] open. We actually Janelle and I got to
[28:49] tour it really quick right before we we
[28:52] came here today. And I mean, it's just
[28:54] wonderful to see the kids running
[28:56] around, people working out, people in
[28:58] the pool. And it's just it's the vision
[29:00] that you all had has come to fruition
[29:03] and we're just proud to to be able to to
[29:06] recognize it as the facility of the year
[29:08] and your parks recreation staff and Nick
[29:11] and the whole group that's that's um
[29:14] making it run and we'll put hours and
[29:16] hours into that to make it the best best
[29:18] center in the state. So on behalf of
[29:20] URPA, we'd like to do the facility of
[29:23] the year as the Fit City Center for
[29:24] 2026.
[29:43] got it this year. So maybe next year
[29:46] bring them all.
[30:01] Put the tall people on the ends say
[30:03] >> and then they don't have to.
[30:06] >> It works. It's really cool.
[30:10] » Bronco, push them in.
[30:13] >> Come on, man. He wore a tie for
[30:15] something.
[30:20] » Okay, here we go. this way.
[30:28] Good job. Way to go, guys. You're
[30:29] >> so well spoken. You're going to laugh
[30:32] every day. You're going to laugh.
[30:37] » Good job.
[30:38] >> Hey, you don't just the things you say,
[30:42] >> appreciate it.
[30:44] >> Thank you so much.
[30:46] >> They got to be shared.
[30:47] Hey, thank your
[30:49] light.
[30:50] >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Sarcasm
[30:53] flow.
[30:57] » Well, I took out half the crowd.
[30:59] >> I know you said that they could leave
[31:00] with and you wouldn't feel bad, but I'm
[31:02] starting to feel bad like
[31:03] >> I saw Susan.
[31:04] >> Goodness gracious.
[31:05] >> Because of that rule you made.
[31:06] >> Thank you, Susan.
[31:07] >> With the pens trying to get people.
[31:09] >> Yeah. Mayor, as the employees are
[31:11] leaving and maybe it's too late for them
[31:13] to hear, but just to highlight to you,
[31:16] we we have some great employees. some of
[31:18] the greatest I think that work on planet
[31:20] Earth and it really is a joy to work
[31:23] with them. that project that they
[31:24] highlighted, the the wreck online
[31:27] >> truly has been a a 20-y year endeavor.
[31:29] And not because, you know, we've never
[31:31] gotten it done, but because when we
[31:32] finish this, the rec department thinks
[31:35] of another way to use it and then Jeremy
[31:37] works on that and then they think of
[31:38] another way and and uh it really has
[31:42] been uh amazing. When we when when we
[31:46] started the construction of this, we
[31:48] began the ideation of what software and
[31:51] we we did some research and very quickly
[31:53] found this program has things that we
[31:56] think we're going to like and that
[31:57] program has some things and that one
[31:58] does, but none of them have it all. And
[32:01] so to try to hijack perhaps the best
[32:04] from everyone um and both Jeremy on the
[32:07] programming side and and Susan on the on
[32:10] the idea side and and just the
[32:13] practicality side really did a great
[32:15] job. So we're we're lucky to have have
[32:18] them. So thanks for letting us take a
[32:20] moment and and highlight them as well as
[32:22] those employees of the quarter.
[32:25] >> Well, very cool. Um if if if you wonder
[32:30] about uh where the secret sauce of this
[32:33] city is, we always say up here that
[32:35] yeah, it's that volunteer spirit that
[32:37] our citizens have and and and stepping
[32:40] in and helping each other. And that's
[32:41] that is what Spanish Fork's about. But
[32:43] boy does it um does it boil down to the employees, too. They they help each
[32:48] other out, too. They're they're
[32:49] volunteers right alongside each other
[32:51] and and all of us. Um but um they they
[32:56] do well at their job because they care
[32:58] that much about their job and it shows.
[33:00] So um just watching that part of council
[33:03] meeting, you'd get that from our
[33:04] employees. So couldn't be prouder.
[33:06] to to be a mayor and
[33:08] council and get to to rub shoulders with
[33:10] you. So thank you. Thank you so much.
[33:13] What what a good way to start off a
[33:15] meeting. Anything else, council, before
[33:17] we go to public comments?
[33:20] Okay.
[33:22] Public comments section of the agenda
[33:24] tonight. This is anything that the
[33:26] public would like to come up and ask a
[33:28] question or state to the council.
[33:30] Doesn't if it's on the agenda and in a
[33:32] public hearing, uh, come up during that
[33:34] time. But this is the public comment
[33:36] section to come up and and let us know
[33:38] anything. Jack will keep us on time at
[33:41] three minutes uh to be respectful of
[33:43] everybody's time. Anybody that would
[33:45] like to come up for the public comment
[33:46] section tonight and address the mayor
[33:48] and council? Yes.
[33:53] Please state your name. Commissioner
[33:55] Warick.
[33:55] >> Hello friends. Uh I'm Shauna Warick and
[34:00] I'm a Spanish Fork super fan.
[34:03] Uh I'm a citizen who wears a lot of hats
[34:06] in this community that I love and uh I'm
[34:10] a professional volunteer as many of you
[34:12] know. Uh but tonight I'm here as a
[34:14] grandma and uh so
[34:18] my grandma hat is on.
[34:21] Thank you to everyone
[34:24] uh on the council for and mayor and the
[34:28] wonderful professionals
[34:30] uh that do the work of supporting our
[34:32] city and making it the best place ever.
[34:35] It's funny because uh I I'm here tonight
[34:39] to say thank you to our parks and
[34:41] recreation department without knowing
[34:43] what the agenda was tonight.
[34:46] Um we love the fit city center. We use
[34:50] the parks and trails. We have been part
[34:52] of wreck online since it began with all
[34:56] of the our kids and all the activities
[34:59] all through the years. um about the Fit
[35:02] City Center. We uh I go to classes, we
[35:06] use the equipment, we walk on the track,
[35:09] we go to the pool, and uh we cannot wait
[35:12] until the outdoor pool is open this
[35:14] summer. And I have not yet used the
[35:17] pickle ball court or basketball, but
[35:19] it's fun to watch people use them. And I
[35:23] really appreciate that the Fit City
[35:24] Center uh staff is responsive and that
[35:27] they're all making we all know that this
[35:29] is a work in progress and we appreciate
[35:31] that they open as early as they could
[35:32] and it's awesome. Um the only feedback
[35:35] that I keep getting rejected on over and
[35:38] over again because I know that there are
[35:40] a lot of really good professional
[35:41] conversations and there's no way that I
[35:43] would ever go online bashing Spanish
[35:46] Fork City on social media. And I'm not
[35:48] bashing. I'm just here to have a little
[35:50] request. I take my toddler and
[35:53] preschooler and grandkids swimming one
[35:55] to two times per week and it's a
[35:58] wonderful facility and we love it at um
[36:01] the Fit City Center. But um we also go
[36:05] to two rec centers to the north of us
[36:09] because the pool is warmer. when I take
[36:12] them to the other two um we swim
[36:15] comfortably for one to two hours and
[36:18] when we go to the fit city center and I
[36:21] keep coming back I do keep trying I
[36:23] promise but they are shivery after about
[36:26] 30 minutes and we don't get to stay as
[36:27] long as we'd like to. So the average
[36:30] temperatures as I've investigated um are
[36:33] only about 5 to 8 degrees difference
[36:35] which seems like not that big a deal but
[36:38] uh it's surprising what a big difference
[36:40] that makes. And so, like I said, I know
[36:42] there's a lot of considerations to be
[36:44] had um but by professionals um but I'd
[36:48] really love to stop spending my money in
[36:50] other communities where here I'd like to keep investing and so I would love to
[36:56] respectfully request that a five degree
[36:58] raise in heat for the recreation pool be
[37:00] considered. Thanks friends.
[37:02] >> Thank you Shauna.
[37:07] » Anyone else?
[37:13] Okay,
[37:15] thank you for that. Uh, duly noted,
[37:17] Shauna. We'll get we'll get it the
[37:20] request to the to the right place.
[37:21] >> I took notes. Manager took notes.
[37:23] Perfect.
[37:24] >> Everyone that has an answer just walked
[37:25] out the door,
[37:27] >> but we will get them the information.
[37:29] >> Run them down. Yeah.
[37:30] >> Yeah.
[37:31] >> Appreciate that. Thank you. Um, let's go
[37:34] to council comments for tonight. We'll
[37:36] start at your end, Councilman Tuk, and work this way to Councilwoman Beck,
[37:40] if that's all right.
[37:40] >> Wonderful. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, good to
[37:43] see you all. Good to be with you,
[37:44] Spanish Fork. Uh, it's been a it's been
[37:45] a couple weeks, so it's fun to be back
[37:47] here. Uh, I do have a couple items, but
[37:49] before I I get to those, I would like to
[37:51] give some time to our president of the
[37:53] Chamber of Commerce in Spanish,
[37:54] Kathleen. Love it.
[37:59] » Thank you so much. Yeah, I missed you.
[38:01] The other week, I actually came down
[38:03] here. I was walking in and I was like,
[38:05] "It seems really quiet." But I walked
[38:07] upstairs and it was it wasn't until I
[38:10] came back downstairs after it was all
[38:12] dark in here that I saw the sign on the
[38:14] building. So, I missed you all. I was
[38:16] here uh without you. Uh but I actually
[38:19] have a special treat for you tonight.
[38:21] It's a bit of a surprise. Sadly,
[38:24] everyone left before, but I had a
[38:26] business reach out, a local business
[38:27] that wanted to join me at council
[38:30] meeting this evening. So, I have with us
[38:31] tonight Nothing But cakes, and she did
[38:34] not come empty-handed. So, Mary, if you
[38:36] will join me up here, and then I'll help
[38:40] you give out cake while you share.
[38:42] >> Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.
[38:45] Um, our Nothing But Cakes location here
[38:47] in Spanish Fork. We just passed our
[38:49] one-year mark and we're so happy to be
[38:51] here. Um, I grew up here in the area and
[38:53] I love the community here so much. We're
[38:55] so excited to get involved and
[38:57] especially with the summer with so many
[38:59] events coming up, we want to be present
[39:02] at all of your celebrations. We are
[39:03] happy to help you all celebrate anything
[39:05] from office parties, weddings, um even
[39:08] small things like just a treat once a
[39:11] day. Um but please invite us to
[39:13] anything. Um and we love the Spanish for
[39:17] community and all of the exciting things
[39:18] that we have going, all the growth
[39:20] that's happening and how much you all
[39:22] invest in your community. and we would
[39:24] love to support that and and help you
[39:26] celebrate all of the fun achievements
[39:27] that are happening. Um, and so yeah, I
[39:30] brought some cake with me today. We have
[39:32] like our top four flavors, but we have
[39:33] lots of other flavors in the store. You
[39:35] can stop by and try. Um, but yeah,
[39:38] please try and spread the word.
[39:39] Hopefully next time we come, we'll get
[39:41] the cake out before everyone leaves.
[39:43] I've learned my lesson.
[39:45] >> But yeah, thank you all so much.
[39:47] >> 12
[39:48] >> I I I see your name. I think I see your
[39:50] name every day. I must drive by. What?
[39:52] remind where you're located in town.
[39:55] >> It's like right across from Costco, kind
[39:57] of between the T-Mobile and the Ter
[39:59] Grill right there.
[40:00] >> That's where it is.
[40:00] >> So, what are your hours?
[40:02] >> We're open every day, Monday through
[40:04] Saturday, 9 to um we just extended our
[40:07] hours. So, now we're open until 8, 9 to
[40:09] 8. And then on Sunday, we're open from
[40:11] 10:30 to 6.
[40:12] >> Great. I'm glad you guys extended your
[40:14] hours because I heard a couple folks
[40:15] say, "I wish they're open later." So,
[40:16] that was a good move.
[40:17] >> Good. I'm so glad. Yeah, we're excited
[40:19] to be able to be accessible for
[40:21] everyone.
[40:22] I went in last week and just got one
[40:25] cake to take home. Just the little
[40:27] cakelet. Is that what they're called?
[40:28] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[40:29] >> And I was in trouble because my husband
[40:30] said, "Are we supposed to share this?" I
[40:32] said, "Yes,
[40:33] >> you get half." And he ate his right up.
[40:35] And he's like, "It's really good." I'm
[40:36] like, "You're not getting my half.
[40:38] >> It's hard to stop. It's dangerous to
[40:39] work there."
[40:40] >> Yep. Chocolate. Chocolate chip is a good
[40:44] one.
[40:45] >> So good.
[40:47] >> Thank you all.
[40:47] >> Thank you so much for coming. Appreciate
[40:49] that.
[40:49] >> Thank you.
[40:50] >> The red velvet is amazing. The Biskoff
[40:52] one is amazing. Just Yeah. Addictive, I
[40:56] think. Is that the word you used? It's
[40:58] troublesome.
[41:00] Yeah.
[41:00] >> I think you were the one that queued me
[41:03] on to the the Biscoff cake there. I've
[41:05] been looking for it. They have a banana
[41:07] pudding one now. I was just in there
[41:09] earlier, which sounds delicious. I think
[41:11] it's in here. So, um, but anyways, I was
[41:14] super excited that Mary reached out to
[41:18] come and and meet you all this evening.
[41:20] It's great to see our local businesses
[41:22] getting involved and I am particularly
[41:25] really excited to have nothing but cakes
[41:27] here in Spanish Fork. I remember one of
[41:28] the closest one was an American fork and
[41:31] I'd be up there for meetings and stuff
[41:32] like that and make an excuse to stop
[41:35] there just because we didn't have one
[41:36] and now I've lost that excuse but I'm
[41:38] very grateful that it's here. Um,
[41:41] upcoming with the chamber, we have some
[41:44] exciting events. On April 14th will be
[41:47] our next women in business uh connector. Um, it'll be at 6:00 p.m. at
[41:54] Hotworks here in Spanish Fork. Pretty
[41:56] close to nothing but cakes. Um, so
[41:58] that's April 14th. April 16th at noon
[42:02] will be our noon networking sponsored by
[42:05] CC Bank and we're we're actually hosting
[42:07] it at Mountain Mike's Pizza. CC Bank is
[42:10] going to be giving us the update on
[42:12] their new location and their
[42:13] groundbreaking. So, they're they are
[42:16] super gung-ho to be here in Spanish Fork
[42:18] as well, and we're excited to support
[42:20] them. Uh, next after that, we have April
[42:24] 28th, the Advanced Learning Center is
[42:27] hosting a job fair with the Department
[42:30] of Workforce Services. Um that'll be
[42:32] April 28th from 3:00 to 7:00 p.m. So
[42:34] stop by if you have anybody interested
[42:36] in jobs or um wanting to see what kind
[42:40] of talent we have here in Spanish Fork.
[42:43] Our business of the month for February
[42:45] was Dependable Door Systems. Super
[42:48] excited to celebrate that business. Uh
[42:50] thank you for joining us, Landon. That
[42:52] was great to have you. And then our
[42:54] business of the month for March is
[42:56] Sandstone Psychology.
[42:59] Uh, last on my list is the Rotary
[43:02] Chamber Scholarship Golf Tournament will
[43:05] be May 13th. And I hope this weather
[43:08] stays because it would be great to have
[43:10] a golf tournament like it is outside
[43:12] right now. So, keep all your fingers
[43:14] crossed for us for May 13th for a
[43:16] fantastic scholarship golf tournament
[43:19] this year. And that's all I've got for
[43:20] you guys.
[43:21] >> Thanks, Kathleen. Kathleen.
[43:23] >> Thank you, Kathleen. And I will do a
[43:24] better job moving forward informing you
[43:25] of when meetings are and when they're
[43:26] not. So that's on me and I will
[43:28] >> I just Yeah, I'm thanks for coming here.
[43:31] >> We appreciate you both. Thank you.
[43:34] >> Well, just a couple items from me um in
[43:36] my areas of responsibility I'd like to
[43:38] share with with the city tonight. So uh
[43:40] first off, I was able to attend the
[43:41] Spanish Fork Fire and and emergency
[43:43] annual banquet a couple weeks ago and
[43:45] Chief Ellrations. It was amazing to
[43:47] recognize so many of your um your uh
[43:50] your crew and your force for doing
[43:51] amazing things and so it was fun to be
[43:54] part of that. Um also able to attend a
[43:57] couple uh conferences and trainings
[43:58] recently. Uh the parks and recreation
[44:00] one we had uh and then also one with
[44:02] Councilman um Carden. Uh we were able to
[44:05] go back to Washington DC and um and do
[44:08] some do some amazing things for Spanish
[44:10] Fork City. And uh it was special to me
[44:12] and a really neat experience. So, um, if
[44:14] he wants to share more, I'll let him on
[44:15] that one, but I know we we're kind of
[44:17] tied on time, so I've got to move on to
[44:18] a couple other items, but I did want to
[44:20] make sure I highlighted one of them, and
[44:22] that is, uh, on April 4th, we have, um,
[44:25] the the Easter egg hunt, the Spanish
[44:27] Fork City sponsored Easter egg hunt.
[44:29] Very excited about this, uh, at the
[44:31] baseball park. Same location. Um, thank
[44:34] you, Jack. There it is. Uh, up on the
[44:35] screen, you can see more details about
[44:38] it. Uh, 8 to 10, 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.
[44:40] be early. uh we do all sorts of
[44:42] different events besides uh just the
[44:44] Easter egg hunt itself, but it's a
[44:46] really fun experience uh to make some
[44:49] memories and and and so please come join
[44:51] us. All are welcome and so we'd love to
[44:54] see you there. We'll be doing some fun
[44:55] new things with it this year. Uh you
[44:58] know, Spanish Fork runs that. So, uh
[45:00] that same day on the 4th, we will also
[45:03] have that evening uh the Miss Spanish
[45:05] Fork pageant. We have eight contestants.
[45:07] Uh the mayor's already worked with them,
[45:09] I've been told, and they're incredible
[45:11] to no surprise. And so I just love
[45:13] supporting that program, the Little Miss
[45:15] program as well. So Spanish Fork High
[45:17] School, 700 p.m. April 4th. So just that
[45:19] night, you could do Easter egg in the
[45:20] morning and beauty pageant in the
[45:22] evening. And um I invite you to both
[45:24] please come support us uh with those.
[45:27] And the last item that I had is uh just
[45:30] kind of a question maybe mayor for you.
[45:31] I noticed on the news last night that uh
[45:33] one of our Maple Mountain High School
[45:34] students named uh Palmer Brandt um he uh
[45:38] he was selected to perform uh in the
[45:40] Honor Band of America and it was on the
[45:42] news and it was kind of a big deal and I don't know Palmer but I thought maybe
[45:46] at some point we should bring him in and
[45:48] recognize him and you know say
[45:50] congratulations and do a little thing.
[45:51] So something to look into.
[45:53] >> I did I saw that for a minute and I
[45:54] wondered I wondered I didn't I don't
[45:56] know him either but we'll get in touch
[45:57] with the principal and Okay. and get him
[45:59] down here. Yeah, that was pretty cool.
[46:01] >> Wonderful. Perfect. Well, that's that's
[46:03] all I have. So, thank you, Mayor.
[46:04] >> Perfect.
[46:05] >> Thank you, Councilman Tuk. Councilman
[46:06] Carden.
[46:07] >> Thank you, Mayor. And I think that while
[46:09] that's still up there, the Easter egg
[46:10] hunt, one of the things to point out for
[46:11] our citizens is at 9:30 a.m. there will
[46:14] be an adaptive field. So, for anybody
[46:16] who has any special needs or um any
[46:18] other help needed for um doing an Easter
[46:21] egg hunt that's not there, there is a
[46:23] spot to go on there to put some
[46:25] information about that so that we know
[46:27] how many to plan for. Um there is some
[46:29] slight changes like Councilman Tuk
[46:31] talked about with um the Spanish city
[46:33] taking back over the Easter egg hunt.
[46:34] The Chamber of Commerce ran it for many
[46:36] years. Um before that it was a city and
[46:38] so it's kind of just coming back home I
[46:40] guess you could say. Um and so there's
[46:42] going to be some things done a little
[46:43] bit differently but um you can go to the
[46:46] website and get more information about
[46:47] that um as well. A couple of things just
[46:51] to go over real quick. Um there's a
[46:53] couple events coming up. the youth um
[46:56] theater in the city is going to be doing
[46:58] their version of Frozen um coming up at
[47:02] the end of the month, March 30th through
[47:04] April 3rd. Um and then our corral is
[47:08] going to be doing their Easter
[47:09] performance on Sunday the 30 or the
[47:12] 29th, sorry, not Sunday. Um but that is
[47:14] up in Provo. It's a little bit away, but
[47:16] they are doing that um on March 29th. So
[47:18] I wanted to make sure everyone was aware
[47:20] of those. Um and then as Councilman and
[47:23] Tuk, while I can speak um talked about,
[47:25] we were able to go down out to
[47:26] Washington DC and I actually got the
[47:27] privilege to take my um son out with me.
[47:30] Um his name is Gavin, and it actually
[47:32] happened to be his birthday the day that
[47:34] we were meeting with all of our our
[47:36] delegation. So, um this is with
[47:39] Congresswoman Malloy, who doesn't
[47:40] represent us yet, but she represents the
[47:42] state of Utah. Um and they made him feel
[47:44] like a rockstar. They sang him happy
[47:45] birthday. They got him into the Library
[47:46] of Congress. Um, which we didn't have
[47:48] tickets for cuz, um, their dad didn't
[47:50] plan well or his dad didn't plan well.
[47:52] Um, and we were able to do that. Um,
[47:54] Senator Curtis, um, if you know Senator
[47:58] Curtis and something he's famous for is
[48:00] his crazy socks. And so Gavin got a pair
[48:03] of stance socks for his birthday from
[48:05] Congressman
[48:06] >> um, or I mean Senator. Wow. Um, Curtis.
[48:09] And they are labeled with his label on
[48:10] them. They're not even just normal label
[48:12] socks. Pretty kind of cool. And then we
[48:14] were also able to meet with um
[48:16] Congressman Owens who this is his last
[48:19] year in there and Gavin got to wear the
[48:21] ring and um we don't admit it often but
[48:23] we are a Raiders fan family and so that
[48:26] was nice to see the Raiders ring that
[48:28] was before I was born. Um but we still
[48:32] are Raiders fans. The other thing that
[48:34] was really cool about going back out
[48:35] there is we were talking about a lot of
[48:36] the needs that are going on in our city,
[48:38] specifically around our airport and some
[48:40] of the funding needs that we have there
[48:42] with taxiway Bravo, um a tower, some of
[48:45] the things that um Councilwoman Beck and
[48:48] I get to talk about quite often with our
[48:50] airport board. Um the great thing is is
[48:53] that our Utah delegation is very aware
[48:55] of those. They are trying to help with
[48:57] those. They're trying to help us find
[48:58] ways to make that happen quicker because
[49:00] they see the need that we have here in
[49:02] Spanish Fork and the growth that's
[49:03] happening. And that's all I have. Mayor,
[49:05] >> very good. Thank you for that good work.
[49:07] Appreciate it. Councilman Oiler.
[49:09] >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh I sent Jack a
[49:12] photo. We'll go ahead and start with
[49:13] that one. As a one of the committee
[49:16] assignments that I have on city council
[49:18] is to serve on the senior board down at
[49:21] our senior center. And this has given me
[49:22] a chance over the past five years to
[49:26] really get to know a lot of incredible
[49:28] and amazing seniors that live in our
[49:30] community. Some of you may know Gordon,
[49:33] some of you may not. I'm going to
[49:35] introduce you to Gordon Warner. Gordon
[49:37] has been a cornerstone down at our
[49:40] senior center for a very, very long
[49:42] time. And sadly, he passed away two
[49:44] weeks ago and his funeral was today. But
[49:48] just wanted to express my condolences to
[49:51] Gordon's family, to the Warner family,
[49:53] and let them know that he will be missed
[49:56] down at our center. Gordon was born in
[49:59] 1923.
[50:01] So do the math.
[50:03] >> So just short of 103 years old, which is
[50:07] incredible. Uh the history and the
[50:09] things that he's experienced in his
[50:11] life, World War II, and and many other
[50:14] things. So, um, just wanted to recognize
[50:17] him. What what a great asset he's been
[50:19] to our community. One of the reasons I I
[50:22] mentioned Gordon, um, besides
[50:25] expressing, you know, condolences to his
[50:27] family is we have a few centurions in
[50:31] Spanish Fork. And I'm reaching out to
[50:35] the community, which is each of you, all
[50:37] of you up here, anybody that's watching
[50:40] with a request.
[50:42] I would love to find a way within
[50:45] Spanish Fork as a community to to
[50:47] recognize
[50:49] and honor our centurions. Um I know in
[50:53] the past we've had them in the parade.
[50:56] They've they've been an entry and
[50:57] they've been recognized in our 24th of
[51:00] July parade. But I would love some ideas
[51:03] from the community on how we how we can
[51:06] recognize these amazing individuals that
[51:09] live in Spanish Fork. I know we have a
[51:11] few. And so if you've got ideas, if
[51:14] you've got suggestions, if you wouldn't
[51:16] mind reaching out to me um either by
[51:19] email or even give me a call or a text
[51:22] and give me your ideas, give me your
[51:23] suggestions on how we can honor those
[51:26] that have hit the century mark within
[51:28] Spanish Fork. So just wanted to open
[51:31] that invitation to the community. So
[51:34] start thinking, let the wheels turn.
[51:36] We've had multiple conferences. March is
[51:39] a busy month for this for the council. I
[51:42] attended last week the water conference
[51:44] down in St. George and our power
[51:46] conference. It's pretty incredible how
[51:49] much water and power go hand in hand.
[51:53] And so we talk about the drought and how
[51:56] that's going to affect watering our
[51:58] lawns, but we don't often make the
[52:00] correlation between how the drought
[52:03] affects our power and and what we're
[52:06] able to provide as power. And so, a lot
[52:09] of things that were learned, um, a lot
[52:11] of great presentations that were given.
[52:13] We we have a lot of water thanks to 2023
[52:17] in our in our reservoirs to get us
[52:20] through the summer, but let's hope that
[52:23] we don't have another record winter like
[52:26] we had this past year. They mentioned
[52:29] one of the takeaways that I got was that
[52:32] they mentioned that the chance of having
[52:34] a record year is less than 1%. And
[52:39] within three years, we've broken two
[52:42] records. In 2023, we had a less than 1%
[52:45] chance of having the most snowpack that
[52:48] we've ever had on record. And three
[52:50] years later, Mother Nature set another
[52:54] record this past winter with the least
[52:56] amount of snowpack that we've ever had
[52:58] in the mountains. So, pretty amazing.
[53:00] So, um we discussed how we can help get
[53:03] the message out to the community on
[53:05] conservation, different ideas on on what
[53:08] we can do. I know Paul Paul Taylor, who
[53:12] is one of our water experts here in the
[53:14] city, um I think he's going to be
[53:16] reaching out to you, Jack. If not, let's
[53:18] get together and start to form a message
[53:21] that we can share with the community on
[53:23] ideas and ways that we can all help
[53:25] contribute with conservation and being
[53:27] water-minded throughout this summer,
[53:29] which which could be a very interesting
[53:31] summer. Um, last comment, and I'll share
[53:35] this more in our next next council
[53:38] meeting, but we've met as a board for
[53:41] the animal shelter. We're currently
[53:42] putting together our budget for the
[53:44] upcoming year. Our next shelter board
[53:48] meeting will be a public hearing where
[53:50] the public can come and hear and speak
[53:51] about the budget. Um so I'll share those
[53:55] in those details um next council meeting
[53:57] with everybody so you're all on on board
[54:00] and aware of of what the budget will
[54:02] look like for for the upcoming year. And
[54:03] that's all I have. Mayor,
[54:05] >> perfect. Thank you, Councilman Order.
[54:07] Appreciate that. Councilwoman Beck,
[54:09] >> I think everything has been covered, but
[54:12] as you've all listened, there's been a
[54:14] lot of conferences. Three of you have
[54:16] been in Washington DC. Most of us have
[54:19] been down to St. George. And this is
[54:22] taking time away from full-time jobs.
[54:25] And I just want to say thank you to the
[54:26] council and mayor. It's a lot of work. I
[54:28] think a lot of people think that city
[54:31] council is just, you know, a meeting
[54:32] twice a month right up here. besides the
[54:34] five plus boards we each sit on then
[54:37] also at conferences. So, thank you for
[54:39] taking the time away from your day jobs
[54:41] and your family and then also staff.
[54:43] Many of you guys are at these
[54:45] conferences as well and and taking time
[54:47] away and I think mayor said it
[54:49] beautifully earlier when the secret
[54:51] sauce is our volunteers but it's also
[54:53] our employees. So, thank you everybody.
[54:55] That's all I have.
[54:56] >> Thank you, Councilwoman Beck. Appreciate
[54:58] that. Um yeah,
[55:02] what was what's been said? U you guys
[55:04] covered a lot of it and thank thank you
[55:06] for going to your your meetings and your
[55:08] conferences and reporting back to us. Uh
[55:10] I'll touch on the Easter egg hunt coming
[55:12] up. Uh Susan Romero, thanks for being
[55:14] willing to take that back on as well uh
[55:18] and come back to the city and and and
[55:20] get businesses involved and and uh and
[55:23] be there to to have a great time with
[55:26] kids. Uh I can't believe it hasn't been
[55:28] said. It will be said after the Easter
[55:30] egg hunt, but it starts at what time
[55:32] again?
[55:32] >> 8:00.
[55:33] >> and ends at
[55:34] >> 8
[55:35] and then 30 seconds.
[55:37] >> You usually have that. You usually Yeah.
[55:38] So, it's quick. So, be there.
[55:41] >> Be there with plenty of time to get your
[55:42] kids out on the field because it goes
[55:44] pretty quick. But, um,
[55:46] >> thank you for that. Uh, I sent Jack a
[55:48] picture about couple of meetings just
[55:50] yesterday was with the stock show folks
[55:52] again down at the fairgrounds. It's 102
[55:55] years of the uh of the stock show and they put this banquet on every year
[56:00] to raise some money um for scholarships
[56:04] uh for for kids that are going into um a
[56:07] field that deals with with animals and with agriculture. And so it's always
[56:11] great to to welcome them. Uh the report
[56:14] I got from the legacy dinner um was that
[56:18] over $22,000
[56:20] raised um last night at that at that
[56:24] auction. It's been over $100,000 raised
[56:27] in the in the last three years. Pretty
[56:29] heartwarming to see people bid on things
[56:32] and then just say we'll give you the
[56:34] money and put it up for bid again. Uh,
[56:37] and uh, it's just to raise money for for
[56:39] kids that uh, they're going into that to
[56:41] uh, you know, they're showing animals
[56:43] and and and and keeping that heritage
[56:45] and history alive and then going into it
[56:48] for for profession and and so it's cool.
[56:50] It's it's alive and well. It's as as big
[56:53] and and better than it ever has been.
[56:55] They honored my fourth grade teacher,
[56:57] Jerry Hill, last night uh, with with a
[57:00] legacy award and and his family. Very
[57:03] deserving. Um I he he forgot that I was
[57:06] the mayor and uh he couldn't believe
[57:08] that that could ever happen and I said
[57:11] well I didn't tell anybody come talk to
[57:12] my fourth grade teacher when I was
[57:14] running for election. So, um, just full
[57:17] of good families and good people, uh,
[57:19] there. And we're excited for that, uh,
[57:21] that that livestock show again, 102nd
[57:24] year, Thursday, May, April 8, April
[57:26] 28th, excuse me, through Saturday, May
[57:28] 2nd. And then on the 2nd, they they'll
[57:32] sell those animals and fun to watch the
[57:34] kids do that. So, cool to see. We talked
[57:37] to him about uh the investments being
[57:40] made down at the fairgrounds and just
[57:41] getting bigger and better in in stalls
[57:43] and barns and everything else to
[57:45] continue that heritage. We appreciate
[57:47] the the partnership with Utah County
[57:48] down there. Um I mentioned it to
[57:51] Councilman Tuk. After that, I ran to I
[57:53] don't have any pictures of this, but
[57:54] Miss Spanish Fork, hey, Miss Spanish
[57:56] Fork is always good. Uh these are some
[57:59] stellar young women. Uh got to ask them
[58:02] some questions. They did some
[58:03] interviews. The future's bright. uh
[58:06] these uh you you we can't lose by
[58:08] picking uh one of these girls and their
[58:10] attendance uh they were wonderful
[58:12] wellspoken uh and uh and intelligent uh
[58:16] young women has stood out. Every one of
[58:18] them when they talked about service
[58:20] whether they were from Spanish Fork for
[58:22] a long time and a few of them were only
[58:24] here have only been here a few years
[58:26] they said what they feel about Spanish
[58:27] Fork is what you already felt tonight a
[58:30] serviceoriented community and they're
[58:32] excited uh to to be chosen to serve even
[58:35] if they're not chosen they're excited to
[58:37] serve alongside their peers in Spanish
[58:39] Fork and so like Councilman Tuk said uh
[58:42] come buy a ticket and and watch these young ladies uh next week
[58:47] next Saturday.
[58:48] >> Saturday the 4th. Yeah.
[58:49] >> Uh the 4th. Uh you you won't be
[58:51] disappointed. Uh they were they were
[58:53] topnotch. So and and thank you to the folks who put that on. Uh Raelene,
[58:58] Barbara Peterson, and Jen Olsson.
[59:00] >> Jen, amazing directors.
[59:02] >> Fantastic people. So, thank you.
[59:06] >> Okay, that takes care of council
[59:07] comments uh tonight. Um staff reports.
[59:10] Uh manager parents, do we have anything
[59:12] from staff that we're going to follow up
[59:14] on?
[59:14] >> Just one brief item. No followup from
[59:17] previous meetings, but maybe one of the
[59:19] most important look forwards. Uh on a
[59:23] week from today, Tuesday, March 31st,
[59:27] rodeo tickets go on sale at 900 a.m.
[59:31] Uh not quite as fast as the Easter egg
[59:34] hunt,
[59:35] uh but pretty close.
[59:38] um tickets really started moving about
[59:41] four years ago and and uh we didn't
[59:44] really expect that kind of a phenomenon
[59:45] to sell out five nights of rodeo in in a
[59:49] week, two weeks, let alone in a day. Um
[59:54] last year was the last uh last year we
[59:57] used an in-house system for rodeo ticket
[59:59] sales. This year we're using an outside
[1:00:00] vendor. Um, and so if you go to uh sfc
[1:00:04] citytick.com, just like always, that's
[1:00:06] where you can go to find our tickets,
[1:00:08] but the back end of this will be a
[1:00:10] different platform than you have than
[1:00:12] our ticket uh purchasers will remember
[1:00:14] from
[1:00:16] um so it'll be a little bit different.
[1:00:18] There will be some I'm sure that will be
[1:00:20] disappointed because different new is
[1:00:22] different and different may be um
[1:00:25] frustrating. So to help them, uh, we've
[1:00:28] put out today and, uh, we've got in a
[1:00:30] few different places the ability to kind
[1:00:32] of see what people need to do. Jack, do
[1:00:35] you want to tell us since you're there,
[1:00:37] you want to annotate? Yeah. So, if
[1:00:39] you're here on this page, so I went to
[1:00:42] sfcitytick.com
[1:00:43] down to the events, the rodeo, and then
[1:00:46] tickets there. And at 900 PM you'll see
[1:00:49] a different or 900 am on March 31st
[1:00:53] you'll see a different box here
[1:00:55] >> that says enter your email address to
[1:00:57] enter the queue. So as fast as you can
[1:01:00] do that that'll determine your position
[1:01:02] in the queue. And right away a message
[1:01:04] will pop up that tells you what number
[1:01:07] you are in the queue and when you can
[1:01:09] expect an email with a link that you can
[1:01:12] click to purchase tickets. So it may say
[1:01:16] at 9:30 a.m. So in 30 minutes you can
[1:01:19] expect to get that email depending on
[1:01:21] where you are in terms of being right at
[1:01:24] 9:00 a.m. So you'll click on that email
[1:01:28] and then you'll enter in and be able to
[1:01:30] purchase tickets. Select seats. You'll
[1:01:32] see a little timer at the top that'll
[1:01:34] give you either five or 10 minutes in
[1:01:36] different areas. So you can select
[1:01:39] tickets. I think you have five minutes
[1:01:41] to do that and then five minutes to
[1:01:43] check out once you have selected those.
[1:01:45] So you can select tickets for multiple
[1:01:47] nights. Uh you can see what's in your
[1:01:50] cart and you can check out. It should be
[1:01:52] a pretty harmless experience.
[1:01:55] Thank you. I um one of the things that I
[1:01:58] haven't loved is some of the
[1:01:59] frustrations that that our patrons have
[1:02:01] had and and so certainly this this
[1:02:03] should be a big step forward. Um, I buy
[1:02:06] tickets every year to football games at
[1:02:09] a university here in Utah Valley. And I
[1:02:11] really appreciate that I'm told what
[1:02:14] minute I have to purchase my ticket. So,
[1:02:16] I'm not waiting. This is although there
[1:02:18] will be some anticipation. You enter
[1:02:20] your your uh email address, get your
[1:02:23] code, but if it says you're in the queue
[1:02:25] and you'll get an email at 10 o'clock,
[1:02:27] you can walk away, go do something for
[1:02:29] an hour, then at 10 o'clock you'll get
[1:02:31] that email. You'll have the ability to
[1:02:32] log in. So you don't have to sit there
[1:02:34] and wait. Um you can go do whatever you
[1:02:36] need to do and come back at the time
[1:02:38] that's appointed. Um and there are a
[1:02:41] couple things that we're trying as a
[1:02:42] rodeo committee to enhance the
[1:02:45] experience. We have we've really
[1:02:47] narrowed down the number of u scalpers.
[1:02:51] We think scalper purchased tickets. A
[1:02:53] couple years ago there were more than a
[1:02:55] few thousand tickets purchased by
[1:02:57] scalpers. Last year we think there were
[1:02:58] just maybe between 500 and a thousand.
[1:03:01] And we've done a few more things to
[1:03:03] ratchet that down. Uh why that matters
[1:03:05] to all of I think all of us as as
[1:03:08] customers is if somebody wants to buy a
[1:03:10] lot of tickets, they will have some
[1:03:12] limitations. If you're just buying
[1:03:14] tickets for your family for a couple
[1:03:15] nights, you won't run into any of these
[1:03:16] issues. But if you're trying to buy 40
[1:03:19] or 50, I can't remember the number, but
[1:03:21] there will be some things that that
[1:03:23] change for you and and how you get your
[1:03:25] tickets. and and that is to ensure that
[1:03:27] we are not selling tickets to some
[1:03:29] scalper that will turn right around and gouge our residents for tickets to
[1:03:35] their rodeo. Um, every year we hear from
[1:03:38] residents complaining to us that they
[1:03:40] can't believe that we have raised rodeo
[1:03:42] tickets to 80 or 90 bucks a seat. And if
[1:03:46] you are buying rodeo tickets for 80 or
[1:03:48] 90 a seat, you're buying them
[1:03:50] aftermarket and you're buying from
[1:03:52] somebody that's taking advantage of you.
[1:03:54] So, don't do that. Or if that's all
[1:03:55] that's left, I guess maybe that's what
[1:03:57] you do. Um, but that's not us. So, sfc
[1:04:01] citytick.com is where you buy tickets.
[1:04:05] And, uh, it's popular enough that when
[1:04:06] you Google yesterday's rodeo, um, there
[1:04:09] are other sites that show up on top.
[1:04:11] They pay to get their name up there.
[1:04:13] That's not us. Um, so that's what you
[1:04:16] do. And anyways, should be great.
[1:04:20] >> Hopefully.
[1:04:22] >> I'm hoping.
[1:04:22] >> Yeah. If you have any complaints, send
[1:04:25] those to the mayor
[1:04:27] >> and we will get them. But there is your
[1:04:29] public reminder
[1:04:31] >> in an official meeting when tickets go
[1:04:34] on sale. Uh
[1:04:35] >> Tuesday, March 31, 9:00 a.m. Enter your
[1:04:37] email address and get in line.
[1:04:40] >> There you go. We've called it I've
[1:04:42] called it in the past the Taylor Swift
[1:04:43] of rodeos because we sell out faster
[1:04:45] than a Taylor Swift concert. Now it's
[1:04:47] called the Post Malone of rodeos because
[1:04:48] I'm sure he sells out tickets too and he
[1:04:51] came to our rodeo. But uh regardless
[1:04:53] whatever you put in front of it is the
[1:04:54] Fiesta Days rodeo.
[1:04:55] >> Yeah. I think he needs to change his
[1:04:57] name to Fiesta.
[1:04:58] >> Maybe somebody that's probably better
[1:05:00] known.
[1:05:02] >> It will sell out and it will sell out in
[1:05:03] a hurry. And uh credit to to Nick Hanks
[1:05:06] and Dale and the the Diamond Fork Riding
[1:05:08] Club and the whole the whole crew that
[1:05:10] makes this uh come together. Uh the
[1:05:13] sponsors, the businesses that sponsor
[1:05:15] this. Uh it is a top 10 rodeo in the
[1:05:17] PRCA and um it it will not disappoint
[1:05:21] this year again. So so get your tickets
[1:05:24] and would love to see everybody there.
[1:05:27] Thank you manager parents. Uh takes us
[1:05:29] to number seven on our agenda. The
[1:05:31] Spanish Fork 101 food for fines. I think
[1:05:34] this is a library thing, not a police
[1:05:36] thing. Is it a It's not a police thing,
[1:05:38] Rod. Okay, it's a library thing.
[1:05:40] >> Yeah, we don't send cops to doors
[1:05:42] anymore to collect on new fines. Ah,
[1:05:45] >> did you ever do that, Lance? Was that
[1:05:47] ever an assignment to you? No.
[1:05:48] >> Okay.
[1:05:49] >> Lance never did that, but it was a
[1:05:51] thing. And I think it made the news at
[1:05:53] one point.
[1:05:54] >> Yeah, it was.
[1:05:55] >> In Spanish word
[1:05:56] >> a few years ago,
[1:05:57] >> like legit book cop like Seinfeld,
[1:06:00] right? Cop.
[1:06:02] >> We had a few He had a few personalities
[1:06:04] that were
[1:06:05] >> Oh my god.
[1:06:06] >> We could find a few people we could
[1:06:07] deputize.
[1:06:07] >> I want my $2.
[1:06:09] >> We don't want to do that. We want to do
[1:06:10] the opposite, right? We want to make it
[1:06:11] easier and and if we can find a way to
[1:06:13] help make the community a little bit
[1:06:15] better and pay forward, great. For the
[1:06:18] last several years, in fact, in my
[1:06:20] entire tenure at the library, we've done
[1:06:22] a program we call food for food for
[1:06:23] fines. Typically, we do it in October,
[1:06:26] which is a way for residents to come in
[1:06:28] and pay down balances on their account
[1:06:30] for overds or lost or damaged materials
[1:06:33] by donating food or other items that we
[1:06:36] then give to Tabitha's Way. Uh the last
[1:06:39] year uh we did two different periods
[1:06:41] throughout the year to provide an
[1:06:43] additional opportunity for residents to
[1:06:45] pay down their balances. And we have
[1:06:46] some patrons that wait for food for
[1:06:48] fines and they come in and bring in a
[1:06:50] bunch of donated goods to pay down their
[1:06:52] balance. Uh starting this month of
[1:06:54] March, we've changed it and we are now
[1:06:57] going to do food for fines year round.
[1:06:59] So rather than having two or one
[1:07:02] specific periods in the year where
[1:07:03] patrons can come in and donate, they can
[1:07:06] do it any time of the year. It's a great
[1:07:09] opportunity for these patrons, right, to
[1:07:12] reduce the balance that's on their
[1:07:13] account and get in good standing so they
[1:07:16] can continue to use the library while
[1:07:17] also benefiting other members of our
[1:07:20] community who may be in need of food or
[1:07:23] other materials or supplies. We prorrate
[1:07:26] or I guess not prorrate but we have
[1:07:28] different tiers for the credit that will
[1:07:30] apply based off of the items that
[1:07:32] Tabitha's way needs most. So for example
[1:07:35] if they need a 5B bag of sugar really
[1:07:38] badly we'll give you more credit to your
[1:07:40] account for that as opposed to the can
[1:07:43] of you know black beans or whatever that
[1:07:45] you bring in. So we're really excited
[1:07:47] that we can work with Tabitha's Way and
[1:07:49] do this year round and hopefully benefit
[1:07:51] not only library patrons but also other
[1:07:53] members of the community. um and also
[1:07:55] help facilitate continued use of the
[1:07:57] library and not have fines be a
[1:08:00] prohibitive thing for individuals in the
[1:08:03] community.
[1:08:04] One thing I'm going to add, not related
[1:08:07] to food for fines, I get it's a long
[1:08:09] agenda tonight, but um we're really
[1:08:12] excited. Last or two weeks ago, we got
[1:08:14] notice from uh Meta, we had applied for
[1:08:17] a grant to create a 3D printing lab at
[1:08:20] the library. It's one thing that we
[1:08:22] commonly get asked when we do surveys of
[1:08:24] patrons, hey, what are some services
[1:08:26] that we could add to the library that
[1:08:27] would interest you? We regularly get
[1:08:29] asked about 3D printing. It's becoming
[1:08:31] more and more common in other libraries.
[1:08:33] So, we submitted a grant through Meta
[1:08:36] saying, "Hey, will you help us create a
[1:08:38] 3D printing lab?" Our grant was funded,
[1:08:40] partially funded. And so, we're going to
[1:08:43] be in the next few months creating this
[1:08:45] 3D printing lab in one of our teen
[1:08:47] program spaces. We'll be buying some
[1:08:49] furniture and some laptops and printers
[1:08:50] and filament and all that good stuff.
[1:08:53] But there's one thing that we really
[1:08:54] need, which is volunteers that can come
[1:08:57] in and help teach programming to members
[1:09:00] of our community.
[1:09:02] A lot of the programs that we do at the
[1:09:04] library are volunteer-based. So, we have
[1:09:07] a Spanish class that's going on right
[1:09:09] now that's led by volunteers. Uh, every
[1:09:12] week we have a programming class for
[1:09:14] twins where they come in and learn the
[1:09:16] basics of programming. And that class
[1:09:18] has been taught for seven years from two
[1:09:20] gentlemen that work for Qualrixs and
[1:09:21] they volunteer an hour of their uh time
[1:09:24] every week to come teach a bunch of 8 to
[1:09:26] 12 year olds how to program. Uh we've
[1:09:29] got gardening classes, we've got cooking
[1:09:31] classes, we've got all these different
[1:09:33] classes that are led by volunteers and
[1:09:35] we appreciate the volunteerism and that
[1:09:37] spirit that's within our community. So
[1:09:39] now we're reaching out to other
[1:09:41] individuals in the community that maybe
[1:09:42] have an uh special interest in 3D
[1:09:45] printing or 3D modeling that would be
[1:09:47] able to come in and volunteer a little
[1:09:48] bit of time so that they can teach the 8
[1:09:51] to 12 year olds and the teens and even
[1:09:53] adults some of these skills on how to
[1:09:55] model objects using software and then
[1:09:58] how to print those things. So, if you or
[1:10:00] someone you know is really into 3D
[1:10:02] printing and modeling and would like to
[1:10:04] volunteer a little bit of your time in
[1:10:06] teaching some of these programs to our
[1:10:07] community members, we would really
[1:10:09] appreciate it. So, I posted a QR code
[1:10:12] where you can fill out a volunteer form
[1:10:13] so that we can understand your skill set
[1:10:15] and your interest and we can start
[1:10:17] developing some programs and some
[1:10:19] scheduling uh for some of those things.
[1:10:21] We'll also have open hours where you can
[1:10:23] reserve a 3D printer and you can come in
[1:10:25] and print your little doodad, whatever
[1:10:29] it is that you're wanting to 3D print
[1:10:30] for your kids or maybe some more useful
[1:10:33] things for around the house and whatnot.
[1:10:34] So, we're excited for the public aspect,
[1:10:37] public use as aspect as well as the
[1:10:39] programming aspect and appreciative of
[1:10:41] the grant that we got from Meta to do
[1:10:42] this. So, any questions on Food for FIDS
[1:10:45] or the 3D lab? I told my 11-year-old
[1:10:49] about the 3D lab program. He's excited.
[1:10:52] >> Nice.
[1:10:53] >> And I'm excited to learn how to do it.
[1:10:54] We've got a 3D printer and everything
[1:10:57] I've attempted so far.
[1:11:00] >> Not good. I need the class.
[1:11:02] >> I was going to say I need the class.
[1:11:03] >> I know you're 11-year-old. I think he
[1:11:04] could be down here teaching.
[1:11:06] >> He probably could.
[1:11:07] >> Yeah.
[1:11:08] >> Scott, will there be a fee to attend
[1:11:10] this class or how will that work?
[1:11:12] >> Yeah, we haven't decided about the for
[1:11:14] the programs. Most of our programs are
[1:11:17] we don't charge a fee for it, right? Um
[1:11:20] some of our after hours events and
[1:11:22] special events that we do for adults
[1:11:23] will charge a nominal like $5 admission
[1:11:26] fee, that sort of thing. We'll certainly
[1:11:28] charge for materials. That's wondering.
[1:11:31] So even if you reserve the 3D printer to
[1:11:32] print your thing, you'll pay X, you
[1:11:35] know, number of cents per gram of
[1:11:38] filament that you use.
[1:11:39] >> That sort of thing. But if we'll charge
[1:11:41] for the class, that's something that
[1:11:42] we're still working on. Um, obviously we
[1:11:44] want to make it accessible to as many
[1:11:46] people as possible, but there are
[1:11:47] consumables that are being used and we
[1:11:49] need that these programs and services to
[1:11:52] be sustainable. So, we'll at least have
[1:11:53] to charge for the material cost.
[1:11:55] >> Yeah.
[1:11:55] >> Thanks.
[1:11:56] >> Any other questions?
[1:11:59] >> Okay. Thank you.
[1:12:00] >> Thank you, Scott.
[1:12:01] >> Appreciate that. Good good information.
[1:12:05] Okay. Uh, anything else uh on the agenda
[1:12:08] before we move to consent items?
[1:12:11] Okay. Consent items are A through I
[1:12:14] tonight. Uh any questions about anything
[1:12:17] on the consent items from the council?
[1:12:20] If not, I'd entertain a motion to
[1:12:22] approve the consent items.
[1:12:24] >> So moved.
[1:12:25] >> Motion made by Councilwoman Beck.
[1:12:27] >> Second.
[1:12:28] by Councilman Tuk. All in favor
[1:12:30] say yes.
[1:12:30] >> Yes.
[1:12:31] >> Consent items.
[1:12:32] >> Mayor,
[1:12:33] >> yes.
[1:12:33] >> Because we have some resolutions on
[1:12:34] there, can we do a roll call vote?
[1:12:36] >> That we'll start with Councilman Tuk.
[1:12:38] >> Yes.
[1:12:38] >> Councilman Carden, yes.
[1:12:39] >> Councilman Oiler, yes. Councilwoman
[1:12:41] Beck.
[1:12:42] >> Yes.
[1:12:42] >> Thank you, Catera. That is approved. The
[1:12:44] consent items are done.
[1:12:46] >> Takes us to public hearing tonight. We
[1:12:48] have items A, B, C, D, and E tonight for
[1:12:51] public hearing. Uh and uh we will get
[1:12:55] started.
[1:12:56] >> This is what it looks like when you
[1:12:56] cancel two meetings.
[1:12:57] >> This is what it does. It doubles your
[1:12:59] public hearing. That's correct. Y
[1:13:01] >> there was one item on that agenda
[1:13:04] and that was in consent. So
[1:13:06] >> it quadruples it. Okay. Yeah, actually
[1:13:09] probably there is some added because uh
[1:13:13] it ripened between the last Tuesday to
[1:13:16] now. So there probably are one or two
[1:13:18] items that wouldn't have been on this
[1:13:19] agenda had we had council meeting last
[1:13:21] week.
[1:13:24] Go ahead, Dave. Sorry.
[1:13:25] >> Thank you Dave for being here. Uh this
[1:13:28] is uh item A, the ordinance to approve a
[1:13:30] zone change for the villas at Annie's
[1:13:32] Acres.
[1:13:35] >> Mr. Mayor, thank you. Um, this proposal
[1:13:40] involves an addition to what is
[1:13:43] currently approved with the Villas at
[1:13:45] Annie's Acres project. It's a 2.14
[1:13:49] acre addition which allows for the
[1:13:52] construction of additional homes in the
[1:13:56] project and also allows for a really
[1:14:01] important road connection, the
[1:14:02] connection of volunteer drive and
[1:14:04] ultimately say coming from Main Street
[1:14:07] over to Riverbottoms Road.
[1:14:10] The subject property is identified here
[1:14:12] with that yellow shade. Um there aren't
[1:14:15] a lot of landmarks
[1:14:18] around the area. Um maybe this today is the best one. The Fit City Center is
[1:14:28] about a half a mile to the west of the
[1:14:31] subject property. Um and the Villas at
[1:14:34] Annie's Acres development. A little different image there showing the
[1:14:40] platted part of the villas at Annie's
[1:14:42] Acres. It's part of one part of what's
[1:14:47] before the council tonight. There is the
[1:14:49] ordinance to approve a zone change that
[1:14:52] pertains to the 2.14 acres that I
[1:14:57] mentioned earlier. That part that would
[1:14:59] be the addition
[1:15:01] um which incidentally a public hearing
[1:15:04] is required for that item. For the other
[1:15:06] part of the project, we listed under
[1:15:08] public hearing items just kind of for
[1:15:09] ease of discussion and administration
[1:15:12] amending the preliminary plat which
[1:15:15] really applies to this somewhat larger
[1:15:17] area. Um that is the design of the
[1:15:20] development and how that would change
[1:15:21] with the addition of these couple of
[1:15:23] acres. There's not a public hearing
[1:15:25] required for that, but that's another
[1:15:27] part an important part of what we'd like
[1:15:30] the council to consider tonight. Um,
[1:15:33] this image, I'd say particularly the one
[1:15:35] on the left there, does a good job of
[1:15:37] identifying again the area that we're
[1:15:39] talking about. The proposed zoning map
[1:15:42] amendment involves this area right here
[1:15:45] that is still zoned rural residential.
[1:15:48] Until recently, that was owned by a
[1:15:50] different property owner. And with the
[1:15:54] conveyance of that property now, um we
[1:15:58] can work as the city to make the road
[1:16:00] connection that I described earlier and
[1:16:02] the remaining part of the property
[1:16:04] that's not needed for volunteer drive
[1:16:06] can be I think u very very appropriately
[1:16:10] and beneficially used as part of the
[1:16:12] villas at Annie's Acres development. But
[1:16:15] indeed um that that area that's
[1:16:18] identified with that green color there
[1:16:21] which signifies the rural residential
[1:16:23] zone that would change to that orange
[1:16:26] color that's to the south of it. That's
[1:16:29] the R16 zone. The master plan
[1:16:31] development overlay would be applied to
[1:16:33] it as well as part of uh what's
[1:16:35] identified in the proposed zone change
[1:16:37] ordinance.
[1:16:39] There's a couple of other images here
[1:16:41] I'll I'll touch on quickly. So with this
[1:16:44] particular image, north is to the left
[1:16:48] of the the map. So this is this is the
[1:16:52] north side. So what we're seeing right
[1:16:54] here, that is the continuation
[1:16:58] of volunteer drive. Um incidentally,
[1:17:01] this is the currently approved
[1:17:04] villas at Annie's Acres Plat. So this
[1:17:07] space that we see right here, that's
[1:17:09] what we're talking about. And you can
[1:17:12] see the difference between
[1:17:15] approved
[1:17:17] and proposed.
[1:17:19] It's kind of subtle unless you're
[1:17:21] looking for. I think that's a good
[1:17:23] thing. Um, as proposed, the additional
[1:17:26] homes in the villas at Anniey's Acres
[1:17:28] will be consistent with uh what's under
[1:17:31] construction now elsewhere in the
[1:17:32] project um was approved uh for the
[1:17:35] remaining part of the project. I don't
[1:17:37] think that from the outside looking in
[1:17:40] probably notice much of a difference,
[1:17:41] but again, I think it's a really big
[1:17:42] difference in terms of using that
[1:17:44] property efficiently and and uh in terms
[1:17:47] of the additional infrastructure that
[1:17:49] can be constructed. Any questions about
[1:17:51] that?
[1:17:54] Uh that's really all that I have. Both
[1:17:56] the development review committee and the
[1:17:57] planning commission have uh reviewed
[1:18:00] both the zone change and the proposed
[1:18:02] amended preliminary plat and have
[1:18:04] recommended that they be approved. Um if
[1:18:08] council's inclined to to take action on
[1:18:10] the items, this is a proposed motion
[1:18:12] with suggested findings and conditions
[1:18:15] for the zone change.
[1:18:18] >> Dave, maybe you can go back to the
[1:18:20] preliminary file.
[1:18:23] Uh, Radford Lane's probably the scariest
[1:18:26] road I've ever driven on in Spanish
[1:18:28] Fork.
[1:18:30] What changes does this or how what
[1:18:32] improvements, I guess I should say, does
[1:18:34] this make with Bradford Lane?
[1:18:37] >> So, from what's currently approved,
[1:18:39] really no significant change at all.
[1:18:42] Um, it does allow for the the
[1:18:45] construction of the
[1:18:47] I would say not the construction of but
[1:18:49] the improvement of additional Bradford
[1:18:53] Lane frontage to the north
[1:18:55] with the land that
[1:19:00] becomes incorporated into the project.
[1:19:03] So, Bradford Lane in part will be
[1:19:06] developed to city standards
[1:19:09] um on the west side of the road as is
[1:19:12] customary when
[1:19:13] >> So, it looks like are they reducing the
[1:19:15] curve? You got that blind curve towards
[1:19:19] the south end of the project as you get
[1:19:22] close to South Lane. Are they reducing
[1:19:24] the curve and improving that the road in
[1:19:27] that area?
[1:19:30] >> I don't know if this will show it very
[1:19:32] well. It really doesn't. Um,
[1:19:35] and Mr. Pierce, I'll let you jump in if
[1:19:37] you'd like. Let me get that.
[1:19:39] >> I think the alignment generally stays
[1:19:40] the same, but the road will be widened
[1:19:42] today. As you go on that tight curve, it almost feels like a one lane. It's
[1:19:46] >> Yeah, it does.
[1:19:47] >> Uh, pretty scary. This would widen out.
[1:19:48] But I think it's worth noting too that
[1:19:51] connecting and going north with Bradford
[1:19:54] Lane uh to that Volunteer Drive
[1:19:57] extension, River Bottoms Road, that
[1:19:58] intersection that's uh on a weird skewed
[1:20:02] angle today, it can really clean up and
[1:20:05] make that a usable intersection with a
[1:20:07] lot of safety improvements. Good.
[1:20:12] » Thank you.
[1:20:13] >> Any more questions for Dave before the
[1:20:16] applicant and public hearing?
[1:20:20] Thank you, Dave. Thank you. If
[1:20:21] >> the applicant's here and would like to
[1:20:22] speak before we go into public hearing,
[1:20:25] uh, more than welcome to.
[1:20:28] >> Hi, I'm Dave Ericson, uh, with Leisure
[1:20:30] Villos. I'll just be really brief. David
[1:20:32] Dave did a good job on explaining this.
[1:20:34] I think one thing that I think is
[1:20:37] important to note on this is that
[1:20:40] bringing the mills property into the
[1:20:42] existing
[1:20:43] community or existing approved community
[1:20:47] uh eliminates any potential uh road
[1:20:51] connections under that future commuter
[1:20:55] uh on volunteer drive and brings it
[1:20:57] internal into our project instead of
[1:21:00] going out onto the road, which I think
[1:21:01] is a a pretty big plus in terms of
[1:21:04] traffic and safety lower uh density than
[1:21:08] what might have been developed were it
[1:21:10] to be reszoned for town homes. So it's
[1:21:13] one of those situation I think is a
[1:21:14] win-win for for all of us.
[1:21:17] Any questions for me? But that's kind of
[1:21:19] our perspective on why this makes sense.
[1:21:22] >> Questions for Mr. Ericson?
[1:21:25] >> Thank you. Thanks, Mayor. If I may, it's
[1:21:27] probably worth noting to your question,
[1:21:28] Councilman Oiler, that with the
[1:21:30] amendment that we're talking about
[1:21:32] tonight, this is focused, as I think
[1:21:33] Dave was saying there, to the that
[1:21:35] >> north
[1:21:36] >> parcel just on the north end. So,
[1:21:37] everything along Bradford Lane
[1:21:41] from that north parcel to the south was
[1:21:45] previously approved and I don't think
[1:21:46] we're changing I don't think anything's
[1:21:48] changing about that. Correct.
[1:21:49] >> That preliminary plan.
[1:21:50] >> So, that's already that's historically
[1:21:53] what was what was approved. There are
[1:21:55] some adjustments of course as as Corey I
[1:21:57] think outlined with with the acquisition
[1:22:00] of this property and and the ability to
[1:22:02] realign
[1:22:04] uh Bradford Lane so that it it connects
[1:22:07] with that future volunteer lane at a
[1:22:09] point that is a little bit further to
[1:22:11] the west uh and will will connect with a cross-section that will be more like a
[1:22:18] true T intersection
[1:22:20] um a four-way intersection rather than
[1:22:22] having any offsets.
[1:22:24] uh certainly like it has. So that I
[1:22:27] think is helpful to know.
[1:22:29] >> If I can add as well, I had a chance to
[1:22:31] pull open the plans in a little more
[1:22:32] detail as we were talking. It does
[1:22:34] straighten out the south end of that
[1:22:36] curb um on Bradford Lane on the south.
[1:22:39] So it does bring that uh south end a
[1:22:43] little further west that will straighten
[1:22:45] out that bend.
[1:22:45] >> Okay, that'll be better.
[1:22:47] >> Awesome. Thank you.
[1:22:50] >> Okay. Thank you. Entertain a motion to
[1:22:52] go into public hearing for item A.
[1:22:54] >> So moved.
[1:22:54] >> Motion made by Councilman Carden.
[1:22:56] >> Second.
[1:22:56] by Councilman Oiler. All in favor
[1:22:59] say yes.
[1:22:59] >> Yes.
[1:23:00] >> We're in public hearing for item A. Make
[1:23:02] sure if you're speaking to this item,
[1:23:04] uh, state your your name so Tara can get
[1:23:06] it and Jack will keep us straight on on
[1:23:08] trying to keep to three minutes. Please
[1:23:10] come up if anybody's here to speak about
[1:23:12] item A.
[1:23:17] » Diane Garcia. Um, my property is to the
[1:23:21] east of this and that intersection,
[1:23:25] um, most of that intersection is in my
[1:23:28] legal description. I own it. I pay taxes
[1:23:30] on it. So, I have not received any
[1:23:34] detailed drawings as to how that is
[1:23:36] going to work. Can't be dedicated to the
[1:23:39] city as a road if I own it. Um, nobody
[1:23:41] has approached me or spoken to me about
[1:23:43] that. So, I don't know how that um,
[1:23:45] alignment is going to work. That is
[1:23:47] dangerous. Several weeks ago, there was
[1:23:49] a very serious accident there late at
[1:23:51] night because someone was speeding. They
[1:23:54] hit that big cement barrier and split it
[1:23:56] in half and it went in the canal. Their
[1:24:00] car spun around. I'm surprised they
[1:24:02] didn't wipe out all my fencing and there
[1:24:04] were police and fire there for a long
[1:24:06] time. I don't know the status of the
[1:24:09] person, but I know they got injured. So,
[1:24:12] it is very dangerous and as is. And um
[1:24:16] hopefully the new plans will be better.
[1:24:18] Um also, every time I come up here, I
[1:24:21] remind um everyone that there is a
[1:24:24] drainage um pipe that goes through this
[1:24:28] and that it is um associated with a
[1:24:30] water rate and that you can't just rip
[1:24:33] it out and um ignore it or replace it or
[1:24:36] change or divert it. And so um if that
[1:24:40] is disturbed or not taken care of
[1:24:42] properly, the whole area will be flooded
[1:24:44] because there's constant water flowing
[1:24:46] there. Um
[1:24:49] the other part, Bradford Lane. So uh
[1:24:52] once again, I own to the center line of
[1:24:54] Bradford Lane. It's in my legal
[1:24:56] description. I pay taxes on it. And um I
[1:24:59] am an a protection area and I'm also a
[1:25:02] designated historic um site with the
[1:25:05] National Park Service. So, I have
[1:25:06] federal protection and um state
[1:25:09] protection with the a protection. So,
[1:25:11] something to think about. Uh Bradford
[1:25:13] Lane can't be dedicated as a street
[1:25:15] unless um something's done about the
[1:25:17] ownership. So, thank you.
[1:25:24] » Hello, my name is Jackie Larson. So, I
[1:25:26] have a few specific questions and
[1:25:28] concerns about the proposal I think need
[1:25:30] to be answered before approval is given.
[1:25:32] So back in October when this corridor
[1:25:34] went before MAG for quarter
[1:25:36] preservation, I asked a simple question
[1:25:38] of how much of this parcel is actually
[1:25:41] being required for the future road and
[1:25:43] would the full width come from this
[1:25:45] property that I believe is it still
[1:25:47] owned by the city currently. Um at that
[1:25:50] time I was told that the exact corridor
[1:25:52] and rightway width were not yet known
[1:25:54] which is completely normal for early
[1:25:55] planning stages. But today we're just a
[1:25:58] few months later and we're being
[1:25:59] presented with a plan that appears to
[1:26:01] assume a defined road width and
[1:26:02] alignment despite the fact that this
[1:26:04] road is still identified as a base 3
[1:26:06] needsbased corridor. So my question is
[1:26:09] what changed and how do we know that the
[1:26:12] required width uh well enough to design
[1:26:14] around it when we didn't know it four to
[1:26:15] five months ago. So when I look at the
[1:26:17] plans they're not clear and it makes it
[1:26:19] really hard to read. Um but is the full
[1:26:21] width of the road being accommodated on
[1:26:23] the city owned parcel and what is that
[1:26:24] width? So second issue like Diane had
[1:26:28] mentioned was the water and it's not a
[1:26:30] minor detail and it's not new and it
[1:26:32] hasn't been resolved. So when this
[1:26:34] project previously came before city
[1:26:35] council in August of 2024, I raised
[1:26:38] concerns about the quarter to create
[1:26:39] water conveyance that runs through this
[1:26:41] property and ultimately feeds into the
[1:26:42] mill race at the fairgrounds. Uh shortly
[1:26:44] after that meeting, the developer
[1:26:45] created an LLC, what they've called the
[1:26:48] Blind Slooh LLC, and represented as if
[1:26:50] it existed prior to that discussion,
[1:26:52] although they completed the business
[1:26:53] registration 10 days later. So that
[1:26:56] timing matters here because it raises
[1:26:57] serious questions about whether that was
[1:26:59] created after the fact to insulate
[1:27:01] liability rather than to address the
[1:27:02] underlying issue. So regardless of what
[1:27:04] it's called, it's not the plane slooh.
[1:27:06] It's actually part of a functioning
[1:27:07] court decree drainage and irrigation
[1:27:09] system known as the mosquito drain. So
[1:27:12] that matters because this water is
[1:27:13] legally protected point of delivery. It
[1:27:15] must continue to flow to the mill race
[1:27:16] and not be redirected into the Spanish
[1:27:18] work river. It can't be altered,
[1:27:20] impaired or reclassified through
[1:27:21] development processes. So, as of today,
[1:27:25] it hasn't been reviewed by the Westfield
[1:27:26] Irrigation Company or cleared through
[1:27:28] the state engineers office, and the
[1:27:30] legal obligation tied to that water has
[1:27:32] not been resolved, but this keeps
[1:27:34] continuing to move forward as if it has
[1:27:36] been. So, I'm just asking that you
[1:27:37] require that the entire roadway be fully
[1:27:39] accommodated on the city own parcel
[1:27:40] before approval. Maybe it has been. Um,
[1:27:43] do not approve this tonight until the
[1:27:44] quarter water conveyance is formally
[1:27:46] reviewed and cleared by the irrigation
[1:27:48] company and the state engineer. require
[1:27:50] formal clearances of the water
[1:27:51] conveyance before any development moves
[1:27:53] forward and require bonding bonding and
[1:27:55] design standards that meet the
[1:27:56] irrigation company requirements. Thanks.
[1:27:59] >> Thank you.
[1:28:03] » Anyone else for item A?
[1:28:08] » Okay, seeing none, I'd entertain a
[1:28:09] motion to go out of public hearing.
[1:28:11] >> So moved.
[1:28:12] >> Motion made by Councilwoman Beck.
[1:28:14] >> Second.
[1:28:15] by Councilman Carden. All in
[1:28:17] favor say yes. Yes.
[1:28:19] We're out of public hearing discussion.
[1:28:21] Back up here for item A.
[1:28:25] >> Where do we want to start?
[1:28:27] >> Corey, do you want to address the road
[1:28:29] width?
[1:28:32] >> Which aspect?
[1:28:33] >> Um the above
[1:28:35] >> the half of it falls under Miss Garcia's
[1:28:39] um she's paying taxes on it. It's under
[1:28:42] her her name. That's quite common in the
[1:28:46] county and as we have properties come
[1:28:47] into the city uh where descriptions that
[1:28:50] are taxing descriptions go over the the
[1:28:53] roadway. Um we're just widening to the
[1:28:55] west in this case. Um but also if a a
[1:28:59] record of survey was done on the
[1:29:02] property uh surveys typically will go to
[1:29:05] the the fence line. Um, so while yes,
[1:29:09] the legal description has it and taxes
[1:29:12] are being paid, uh, it's been used for a
[1:29:14] roadway for long enough years, there's
[1:29:17] prescriptive rights and usually that's
[1:29:18] recognized in a record of survey.
[1:29:20] >> One clarification, there was a, uh,
[1:29:23] Jackie had brought up the road being
[1:29:26] widened on our on the parcel that we
[1:29:27] own. Is that what the what is being
[1:29:29] prescribed is that it's be widened to
[1:29:31] the west?
[1:29:32] >> Yes, the whole property Bradford Lane is
[1:29:35] to the west.
[1:29:35] >> We're widening to the west. nothing is
[1:29:37] going to
[1:29:37] >> or in some cases moving the road further
[1:29:39] west.
[1:29:40] >> But our future plan if if the road were
[1:29:44] ever to be completely finished, are we
[1:29:46] saying that Miss Garcia's part partial
[1:29:50] portion or whatever?
[1:29:54] um if we had to finish that road, are we
[1:29:56] only finishing half the road and
[1:29:58] widening it to the to the west or are we
[1:30:00] now saying that the width of the road
[1:30:03] will begin I guess you'd say the eastern
[1:30:06] side of the road will begin where her
[1:30:08] property line is and and future road
[1:30:11] will only go from there west.
[1:30:14] >> So our our standards require that a
[1:30:16] developer builds a half a road plus 10
[1:30:18] ft um which is wide enough to get
[1:30:21] two-way traffic. Um the east side of the
[1:30:24] road will be developed as property
[1:30:26] chooses to develop. Um if there's ever a
[1:30:28] need for the city to finish the east
[1:30:30] side of the road, we would approach and
[1:30:32] figure out the rights of ways and
[1:30:34] purchase property to do that.
[1:30:36] >> Okay.
[1:30:36] >> So it would happen in one of two ways.
[1:30:38] Either properties on the east would
[1:30:40] choose to develop and that would be part
[1:30:41] of their plans to widen and finish the
[1:30:43] road. Um, if the city were to move
[1:30:46] forward with plans for some reason to
[1:30:49] finish the road fully, then we would get
[1:30:51] our surveyors involved and approach
[1:30:53] property owners to acquire property
[1:30:56] that's needed.
[1:30:57] >> But for this project, we're not we're
[1:30:59] not widening the road in any way um onto
[1:31:02] Miss Garcia's property. We're only
[1:31:04] widening
[1:31:05] >> there. There is a section up in the
[1:31:07] existing intersection that's if you ever
[1:31:10] drive the intersection at uh Bradford
[1:31:13] Lane and Riverbottoms Road, there is
[1:31:16] taxing description that goes out in that
[1:31:17] intersection today. Um that's been that
[1:31:20] way for
[1:31:22] many, many, many years. I expect as long
[1:31:25] as the roadway's been there. Um
[1:31:27] >> I think the the best way to describe it
[1:31:29] is the road won't be further improved
[1:31:32] eastward. It's a good way to
[1:31:34] >> whether it's in a property line or not
[1:31:36] as Miss Miss Garcia's expressed. I I
[1:31:38] don't think we can really comment on
[1:31:40] that. That's that's a county road and
[1:31:43] the history is as Cory's described, but
[1:31:46] the intention is that it the road width
[1:31:48] will not go further east than what it is
[1:31:52] currently. All the work will happen to
[1:31:53] the west. Will any improvements be made
[1:31:55] as far as asphalt or changes
[1:31:59] >> um to the west side of Bradford Lane or
[1:32:02] River Bottoms Road and Volunteer Drive
[1:32:04] going west? Yes, there will be
[1:32:06] improvements.
[1:32:07] >> Uh we do have it's it's hard to tell
[1:32:09] because we've got two developments
[1:32:12] working on different portions of this.
[1:32:14] So, seeing it in one plan, we do have
[1:32:15] plans we'd be glad to share. Um
[1:32:20] if we're we're planning some striping
[1:32:22] that would pull actually traffic further
[1:32:24] south and west of the existing roadway
[1:32:28] to line up to more 90° four-way
[1:32:31] intersection versus the skewed angles
[1:32:33] that lead to the the accidents that I
[1:32:36] think were referenced already. So this is a huge safety improvement to
[1:32:40] that area.
[1:32:41] >> And I think it's also worth noting at
[1:32:43] the at the intersection in particular,
[1:32:44] I'm just looking at a map here on my on
[1:32:46] my screen. Um the as mentioned with this
[1:32:50] plan um would you circle the
[1:32:53] intersection where the would you circle
[1:32:56] what I'm thinking in my head Jack
[1:32:58] appreciate that
[1:33:00] >> you're not doing it
[1:33:04] » um
[1:33:05] >> at this intersection at this location
[1:33:07] here as I mentioned earlier the road is
[1:33:09] going to come to the west from where it
[1:33:11] currently is
[1:33:14] so there will be some discussions in
[1:33:17] theuture future uh that we'll have with you uh where there will be some uh
[1:33:23] areas of roadways that we will look to
[1:33:26] abandon because today as you can see
[1:33:29] thanks Dave in this image this roadway
[1:33:32] won't need to be the used the same uh I
[1:33:35] think we would anticipate some some
[1:33:38] closure of some kind here to minimize
[1:33:40] the use and then if somebody wants to
[1:33:43] use this as access to the fields they
[1:33:46] can but that would become uh more
[1:33:48] privatized. Is that fair to say, Corey,
[1:33:50] as I'm looking at this image?
[1:33:53] >> Is that four-way?
[1:33:54] >> This is This would be a four-way type of
[1:33:56] intersection. Yeah.
[1:33:58] >> Correct.
[1:33:59] >> Yep. So, there will be some future
[1:34:00] discussions uh with
[1:34:04] you when this is all done where we say,
[1:34:07] "All right, this right of way or this
[1:34:09] prescriptive easement as it is can be let go in some form.
[1:34:16] And then the question about the
[1:34:18] drainage. Great. Corey, do you want to
[1:34:20] talk about that?
[1:34:22] >> Yeah, I think our city engineer Byron's
[1:34:24] been out on several occasions looking at
[1:34:26] the drainage in the area um in several
[1:34:29] locations. There's a a separate pipe
[1:34:33] planned that will pick up irrigation
[1:34:34] ditches, drainage areas, and convey them
[1:34:39] um ultimately through volunteer drive
[1:34:41] towards the river. uh water rights that
[1:34:44] as we understand it, Westfield
[1:34:46] Irrigation has rights to those. We've
[1:34:49] talked with them. They're okay with the changes and where the water is
[1:34:54] planned.
[1:34:54] >> So, before we were to do something like
[1:34:56] that, do we have to get like since
[1:34:57] there's water rights involved and we all
[1:34:59] know there's a lot of legal things
[1:35:02] around water rights, would we have to
[1:35:03] get in writing that they're okay with
[1:35:04] those water rights being diverted or how
[1:35:06] would that work?
[1:35:07] >> We could. I don't know that there's a
[1:35:09] legal reason. you know, maybe look at
[1:35:10] Vaughn a little bit for that, but
[1:35:12] >> there's a state statute that if they're
[1:35:14] to adjust any irrigation um facilities,
[1:35:18] they have to coordinate with the
[1:35:19] irrigation district.
[1:35:22] >> Yes.
[1:35:22] >> So, I'm sure assuming that for for our
[1:35:24] legal protection, you'd want that in
[1:35:26] writing.
[1:35:26] >> Yeah, we we always send them that's in
[1:35:29] our ordinance and we send them to the
[1:35:30] irrigation companies to work that out.
[1:35:32] Now, if it's a water right, not not just
[1:35:35] an irrigation facility, then yeah,
[1:35:37] they'd have to address
[1:35:40] changes to points of diversion, place of
[1:35:42] use, that sort of thing with the change
[1:35:44] application, but I'm not sure if that's
[1:35:46] the case or if it's just an irrigation
[1:35:48] company facility.
[1:35:50] So, depends.
[1:35:51] >> So, for our purposes, before we would
[1:35:54] ever divert any water, we would make
[1:35:55] sure that we go through the legal
[1:35:57] process of whatever those water rights
[1:35:59] need to happen.
[1:36:00] >> That's that's the goal for sure.
[1:36:01] >> Okay.
[1:36:06] I don't know if the applicant just I
[1:36:08] don't know if the applicant has any
[1:36:10] insight on the any discussions that
[1:36:13] you've had.
[1:36:13] >> Sure.
[1:36:14] >> With your engineer.
[1:36:15] >> I'm not the the engineer on the project,
[1:36:18] but uh I'll play one for a second. Um I
[1:36:21] looked into this after uh the planning
[1:36:24] commission meeting last time just to
[1:36:26] make sure that the drainage issue had
[1:36:29] been addressed and that it's that we've
[1:36:30] got a solution to to the problem. It is being addressed. It's being piped
[1:36:36] once it's being captured. I don't I
[1:36:38] can't speak to a water right regarding
[1:36:41] drainage, but um our design includes
[1:36:45] it's in the plan set uh to include
[1:36:47] capturing that any obviously it's in our
[1:36:50] own interest to capture any storm
[1:36:52] drainage. So, I don't think there's an
[1:36:55] issue there. But, um, that's that's all
[1:36:58] I can speak to that
[1:37:01] other than that, I know it's been drawn
[1:37:04] up and planned for in our design.
[1:37:07] Thanks.
[1:37:08] >> Thank you.
[1:37:10] >> Any other questions? I don't know if
[1:37:13] Dave, Corey or Seth, which if you wants
[1:37:15] to address
[1:37:17] Miss Garcia's question or concern about
[1:37:19] notification, being the property owner
[1:37:22] and whatnot, not not getting not seeing
[1:37:26] the plan or know what's the city's
[1:37:28] typical standard as far as notification
[1:37:30] on on an subject like this.
[1:37:33] >> Cory, you take a shot.
[1:37:34] >> I I think the purpose of a planning or a
[1:37:37] public hearing is for notifying
[1:37:39] neighbors. Um, I think this project
[1:37:42] through the years has been notified. I I
[1:37:45] think Dave's office does a good job of
[1:37:47] that. Um, certainly our office is always
[1:37:50] open to come in and have people look at
[1:37:53] documents and we're welcome to share
[1:37:54] those. So, I think evidence of the
[1:37:57] discussion tonight is that owners are
[1:37:59] notified and available
[1:38:02] and and have a chance to share their
[1:38:04] thoughts.
[1:38:05] >> And what we're seeing tonight's the same
[1:38:06] as what was presented at planning
[1:38:08] commission meeting. Is that correct?
[1:38:12] Okay. Thank you, Dave.
[1:38:15] >> I think the Bon look to you maybe give us a few moments of instruction on
[1:38:22] prescriptive use of roads. It seems like
[1:38:24] that's probably the question at hand.
[1:38:26] >> Yeah. Yeah, if if the question is um
[1:38:30] about the ownership of the road like
[1:38:33] Corey explained really well that the you
[1:38:36] there could have deeds with legal
[1:38:38] descriptions that that are old and then
[1:38:40] there are now streets or or maybe I'll
[1:38:43] just say roads, county roads that have
[1:38:46] traverse somebody's legal description.
[1:38:47] That happens all the time. And once
[1:38:50] they've been there for 10 years as a
[1:38:52] public thoroughfare, then they become a
[1:38:54] legal public thoroughfare. And so that's
[1:38:56] why you have descriptions go to the
[1:38:58] middle of the road, but the fences are
[1:39:00] set back and people drive on those
[1:39:02] county roads for decades if not
[1:39:04] centuries and they're they're public
[1:39:08] roads. Von, do you happen to know or
[1:39:10] does anybody know if if I own property
[1:39:13] on the river bottoms and half of my
[1:39:16] property goes into Riverbottoms Road,
[1:39:17] which I don't want to pay taxes on
[1:39:19] because it's now a public road. Is there
[1:39:21] a process a property owner can go
[1:39:24] through to deed that over to the county
[1:39:26] >> dedicate it? Yeah, I don't there's a lot
[1:39:29] of ways you could do it. Make it public
[1:39:30] if you wanted to like to formalize that
[1:39:33] an explicit public dedication, but like
[1:39:36] I mentioned, there's a dedication by use
[1:39:39] over years.
[1:39:40] >> There are experts at the county that can
[1:39:42] answer that question. I think
[1:39:49] » any other questions about that?
[1:39:52] >> I think uh again, I sound like a little
[1:39:54] bit like a broken record when I say I've
[1:39:56] been up here long. I've been up here
[1:39:57] just only a couple years longer than
[1:39:59] Councilwoman Beck, but she was up here
[1:40:02] with me long enough to see uh if you
[1:40:07] know the Bradford uh piece that now does
[1:40:11] have homes on it for how many years
[1:40:13] they've been there now? Three, four
[1:40:15] years. My in-laws live in one. Um
[1:40:19] same thing, had an irrigation company
[1:40:21] that used to water those fields before
[1:40:23] they before they had homes on it. and
[1:40:27] had a road in front of it that was a
[1:40:29] small county road that's now improved
[1:40:31] that you can get by when you travel to
[1:40:33] and from Riverbottoms Road as as well as
[1:40:36] that subdivision. So this is appreciate
[1:40:40] the the the questions and and and to get
[1:40:43] more clarity on this but uh this feels
[1:40:46] like a lot of the same process.
[1:40:47] Obviously our city works with Westfield
[1:40:49] Irrigation Company. every single
[1:40:51] irrigation company as property owners uh
[1:40:55] request to do different things with
[1:40:56] their land and and water has to be uh
[1:40:59] reconciled that way and roads to. So
[1:41:03] this this is one more extension of that
[1:41:05] down in an area that u a few years ago
[1:41:09] we did
[1:41:10] >> and uh and it grew homes and so it's
[1:41:12] going to grow a few more here. But uh
[1:41:14] but I do appreciate this is u Miss
[1:41:17] Garcia's mentioning of um this has been
[1:41:20] a bad intersection not just of of recent
[1:41:23] but this was a bad intersection when I
[1:41:25] was a kid and uh this is a big
[1:41:27] improvement of a tough intersection that
[1:41:30] does share um you know that's that's
[1:41:32] coming into our city and shifting a
[1:41:34] little bit to to do that and improve it
[1:41:37] uh but does border some county property
[1:41:39] too. Um, I'm uh I'm hopeful that we'll
[1:41:43] hear of of less accidents of of less
[1:41:46] things happening because uh of the
[1:41:49] improvement here um by a landowner, by a
[1:41:52] developer that's that's that's making
[1:41:54] this a safer place for people to travel
[1:41:59] like me every Sunday down there. So,
[1:42:04] any other questions, uh, comments about
[1:42:08] this proposal item A coming before us?
[1:42:12] If there's none, I'd entertain a motion,
[1:42:14] uh, to approve, uh, item A.
[1:42:25] I'll take a stab at it. Since everyone's
[1:42:27] so chatty up here,
[1:42:30] I move to approve the proposed villas
[1:42:32] that Annie's acres zone change be
[1:42:33] approved based on the following findings
[1:42:36] and subject to the following conditions.
[1:42:39] Number one, that the proposal is
[1:42:41] consistent with the city's general plan
[1:42:42] designation of medium density
[1:42:44] residential. And number two, that the
[1:42:46] proposal meets the intent of the master
[1:42:49] planned development overlay zoning
[1:42:51] district. And the three conditions are
[1:42:54] that the applicant meets the city's
[1:42:56] development and construction standards,
[1:42:58] zoning requirements, and other
[1:42:59] applicable city ordinances. Two, that
[1:43:02] the applicant addresses any staff review
[1:43:04] comments. And three, that the city
[1:43:07] council approves an amended development
[1:43:08] agreement.
[1:43:11] >> Motion made by Councilwoman Beck.
[1:43:14] >> Second.
[1:43:15] by Councilman Tuk. Roll call vote
[1:43:17] here. Councilwoman Beck.
[1:43:19] >> Yes.
[1:43:19] >> Councilman Oiler?
[1:43:20] >> Yes.
[1:43:20] >> Councilman Carden?
[1:43:21] >> Yes. and Councilman Tuk.
[1:43:22] >> Yes.
[1:43:24] >> Item A is approved. Thank you for the
[1:43:25] questions and the clarifications there
[1:43:28] on that. Uh takes us to item B or public
[1:43:33] hearing.
[1:43:34] >> Again, Mr. Mayor, thank you. Really
[1:43:35] nothing to add.
[1:43:38] >> Excuse me. Yeah, I could have Sorry, we
[1:43:39] could have put those two together.
[1:43:41] >> Yeah, this Yeah, this one's not a public
[1:43:42] hearing.
[1:43:42] >> Not a public hearing. staff's
[1:43:44] recommendation on the uh um proposed
[1:43:49] amended preliminary plat. Uh quite a few
[1:43:52] conditions uh come with the
[1:43:54] recommendation that was provided to the
[1:43:56] planning commission from the development
[1:43:57] review committee. Uh both the
[1:43:59] development review committee and the
[1:44:00] planning commission have recommended
[1:44:01] that the amended preliminary plat be
[1:44:03] approved um based on the two findings
[1:44:07] that we have and then what right now are
[1:44:10] nine recommended conditions of approval.
[1:44:13] So, kind of a mouthful mouthful
[1:44:16] in that regard, but uh
[1:44:17] >> they don't all need to be read though.
[1:44:19] Correct.
[1:44:20] >> I don't think any of them need to be
[1:44:21] read if you just wanted
[1:44:24] conditions. Okay. I could have done that
[1:44:26] though.
[1:44:26] >> Well, you were warming up though. You already did five. What's not?
[1:44:29] >> No, I'm not doing this one. Okay.
[1:44:32] >> Thank you, Dave. Anything else?
[1:44:33] >> Not for me.
[1:44:34] >> Okay. Questions for Dave before item B.
[1:44:37] The amended preliminary plat for the
[1:44:39] villas at Annie Acres. No, I just seeing
[1:44:42] the change between what was there before
[1:44:44] and now the
[1:44:47] adjustments with the added property to
[1:44:49] the north makes sense. Um, better use of
[1:44:51] the property. You're not leaving kind of
[1:44:53] that island that would be there between
[1:44:55] the road and and the properties that
[1:44:58] would be built out. So, I think it makes
[1:45:00] sense.
[1:45:01] >> I will just make a comment. I know I I
[1:45:03] know we're dealing with a different
[1:45:04] developer than what this project started
[1:45:06] with and we've discussed that in in
[1:45:08] meetings in past, but um I think this is
[1:45:11] a a great thing. I as as I know it, we
[1:45:15] very few 55 and older uh communities in
[1:45:18] town and I just think this one's
[1:45:21] awesome. So, I'm glad that we're getting
[1:45:22] some more availability here.
[1:45:24] >> Yeah. I think this will help keep some
[1:45:26] people close that want to stay close
[1:45:28] that maybe aren't um you know aren't down with mowing their lawn and
[1:45:33] shoveling walks anymore. But just just
[1:45:35] appreciate coming to Spanish and and and
[1:45:38] having a project here where where we can
[1:45:40] keep uh people close to us that that age
[1:45:44] and close to a fit city center that has
[1:45:46] record attendance from these people. So
[1:45:49] thank you. Thank you so much. I think
[1:45:50] this is a great project. know a lot of
[1:45:52] the people that live there and I can
[1:45:54] vouch and say they are the finest
[1:45:56] individuals that live in Spanish for
[1:45:58] >> Yeah, I'll tell Craig and Debbie your
[1:46:00] talents.
[1:46:02] >> That is a that was as bad as
[1:46:04] >> with that uh I I would entertain a
[1:46:08] motion for item B.
[1:46:09] >> A public hearing for that.
[1:46:11] >> Said no public hearing. Don't need a
[1:46:12] public hearing for this item.
[1:46:14] >> Oh, it's in the public hearing area.
[1:46:15] >> Yeah, sorry. It's in the It's in the
[1:46:17] public hearing agenda, but uh
[1:46:19] >> I could have teamed it up with with a
[1:46:21] >> Do we list the conditions on this one as
[1:46:23] well?
[1:46:24] >> Uh you don't need to read them. If you
[1:46:25] could if you just um mention the
[1:46:28] findings and conditions Dave says that's
[1:46:31] enough and Van didn't yell about it. So
[1:46:35] >> just references reference is okay. I'd
[1:46:38] entertain a motion.
[1:46:39] >> Okay, I'll go for it. I move to approve
[1:46:41] the proposed villas at Annie's Acres
[1:46:43] Preliminary Plat amended. uh be approved
[1:46:45] be uh based on the following findings as
[1:46:48] subject to the following conditions
[1:46:50] which are listed findings and
[1:46:51] conditions.
[1:46:53] >> Motion made by Councilman Tuk.
[1:46:55] >> Second.
[1:46:56] by Councilman Oiler. A roll call
[1:46:58] vote here. Councilman Carden.
[1:46:59] >> Mayor Mayor, sorry. Before the vote in
[1:47:01] the staff report.
[1:47:04] All right. We just want to make sure we
[1:47:05] have all the same conditions. I think we
[1:47:08] do.
[1:47:10] >> You got the ones up here, Dave. The one
[1:47:12] through nine. Same as in the staff
[1:47:13] report, right? That's what it shows on
[1:47:14] the
[1:47:15] >> All right, that's a lot.
[1:47:18] >> Okay, thank you. Now we're good. Motion
[1:47:22] made and seconded. Roll call vote.
[1:47:24] Councilman Carden. Yes. Councilman Tuk.
[1:47:26] Yes. Councilwoman Beck. Yes.
[1:47:28] >> And Councilman Oiler.
[1:47:29] >> Yes.
[1:47:29] >> B is approved.
[1:47:32] >> Okay. Takes us uh to C in our public
[1:47:34] hearing. Disposition of city-owned
[1:47:36] property at 1300 South Main Street,
[1:47:39] Spanish Fork.
[1:47:43] Mayor and council, anytime that uh
[1:47:45] there's a parcel of property that the
[1:47:47] city owns that uh is
[1:47:51] not uh
[1:47:53] needed or that we don't have any future
[1:47:56] plans for and that we'd like to sell. Um
[1:47:58] we are required to have a public hearing
[1:48:00] if if the value is likely over $100,000.
[1:48:03] So, the uh the parcel of property
[1:48:06] located, like you mentioned, mayor, at
[1:48:08] about 1300 South Main, um the city owns
[1:48:12] that. And if you've been down in that
[1:48:14] area, you've probably noticed uh just to
[1:48:16] orient where where we're at here, uh on
[1:48:19] the north there by Arrowhead Trail,
[1:48:21] there's a new Quick Quack Car Wash. And
[1:48:23] then, um there's some new development
[1:48:26] just across the street from this from
[1:48:28] this parcel. So, um there's there's well
[1:48:32] that's pretty specific. I was going to
[1:48:33] say about 8.489
[1:48:36] or sorry 4.849 acres, but uh that's the
[1:48:39] exact acreage of the parcel. So, um
[1:48:43] anyone that's interested if uh if you
[1:48:45] want to get a hold of me and we can um
[1:48:48] talk more about that, we'll be um acce
[1:48:50] accepting
[1:48:52] bids on that uh for the next little bit.
[1:48:55] And then once we have some that uh feel
[1:48:58] like they're they're a good fit, we'll
[1:49:00] bring that to you in a in a close
[1:49:02] session and talk through that uh land
[1:49:04] transaction. So, any questions?
[1:49:07] for Tyler before public
[1:49:09] hearing for this item?
[1:49:11] >> No.
[1:49:12] >> Thanks,
[1:49:12] >> Tyler. Okay. I'd entertain a motion to
[1:49:14] go to public hearing for item C.
[1:49:16] >> So moved.
[1:49:17] >> Motion made by Councilman Carden.
[1:49:20] >> Second by Councilman Oiler. All in favor
[1:49:22] say yes.
[1:49:22] >> Yes. We're in public hearing for item C.
[1:49:25] Anybody from the public that would like
[1:49:26] to speak to this item?
[1:49:30] Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion to
[1:49:31] go out of public hearing.
[1:49:33] >> So moved.
[1:49:34] >> Motion made by Councilman Oiler. Second
[1:49:37] by Councilman Tuk. All in favor say yes.
[1:49:40] >> Yes.
[1:49:41] >> Discussion back up here. Any further
[1:49:43] questions or discussion about that
[1:49:46] property?
[1:49:48] >> We don't need it. Let's sell it.
[1:49:49] >> Yeah.
[1:49:49] >> Yep.
[1:49:50] >> Tyler's uh information was up there.
[1:49:52] reach out if you're interested.
[1:49:55] >> There's no questions. I'd entertain a
[1:49:56] motion for item C.
[1:49:58] >> No motion needed tonight.
[1:49:59] >> Oh, nothing.
[1:50:00] >> Just just action.
[1:50:01] >> Just the public hearing. Yep.
[1:50:02] >> Perfect. Okay.
[1:50:03] >> We'll we'll then now be able to receive
[1:50:07] um any offers and move forward. I
[1:50:09] imagine that in a future close session,
[1:50:12] we'll talk about any and what those are
[1:50:14] and get your direction after that.
[1:50:16] >> Yeah. Perfect.
[1:50:18] >> Thank you.
[1:50:19] Item D is ordinance for title 15
[1:50:21] amendments to change the setback
[1:50:23] requirements for substations in public
[1:50:25] facility zone and allowed fence height in the public facility zone.
[1:50:39] Once again, thank you. Um, there is a
[1:50:42] need to construct
[1:50:45] a masonry
[1:50:47] wall
[1:50:49] closer to the public street
[1:50:52] for a power substation than what our
[1:50:55] ordinance currently allows.
[1:50:59] Um,
[1:51:01] things like power substations should be
[1:51:04] zoned public facilities. So the proposal
[1:51:06] that's before the council tonight would
[1:51:07] only apply to properties that are zoned
[1:51:10] public facilities and therefore the
[1:51:11] likelihood that this would come into
[1:51:13] play very often is really limited.
[1:51:15] That's further
[1:51:18] it's further limited by the idea that in
[1:51:20] addition to being zoned public
[1:51:22] facilities, we're just talking about
[1:51:24] power substations.
[1:51:26] So not expecting this to um you know
[1:51:28] really be perpetuated much at all
[1:51:30] throughout the community in the
[1:51:32] community. And in short, as I think the
[1:51:37] staff report memo really simply
[1:51:40] identifies, the proposal would allow for
[1:51:43] masonry walls to be constructed
[1:51:45] potentially as close as 10 ft to a
[1:51:48] public street. In this case, we think
[1:51:51] about a public street that would be 10
[1:51:52] feet from the sidewalk. So on a typical
[1:51:55] street, you have curbon gutter, some
[1:51:58] space that we call the park strip, then
[1:52:00] a sidewalk. And with what's proposed
[1:52:03] tonight, then there'd be 10 ft of space
[1:52:05] for landscaping and then there would be
[1:52:08] a wall. Um, making this adjustment and
[1:52:12] allowing for the setback to be reduced
[1:52:15] from 20 ft down to 10 or on a on a
[1:52:18] corner lot, maybe from 15 down to 10
[1:52:21] makes it possible for a very essential
[1:52:25] public facility to be constructed on
[1:52:28] sites where otherwise there wouldn't be
[1:52:29] enough room.
[1:52:31] So it is critical that this change be
[1:52:34] approved um for at least one facility
[1:52:38] that is following the standard with how
[1:52:40] it's been designed. It it's again I
[1:52:43] would simply say critical.
[1:52:45] Um there is another part to the proposal
[1:52:49] because typically
[1:52:51] uh well currently in all zones
[1:52:55] all non-industrial zones the maximum
[1:52:57] height of a fence or a wall is six feet
[1:53:01] unless somebody comes to a city council
[1:53:04] meeting with the proposal and asks the
[1:53:05] council to grant approval of something
[1:53:07] taller than six feet. I might remember,
[1:53:10] I think it was just a year ago that we
[1:53:12] indeed added language to title 15 to
[1:53:15] allow for fences in industrial zones
[1:53:18] that were taller than six feet. And
[1:53:20] another part of this proposal would add
[1:53:22] our public facility zone to that because
[1:53:25] having walls that are taller than six
[1:53:28] feet is an essential part of providing
[1:53:30] the security that's needed around this
[1:53:33] particular type of critical facility um
[1:53:36] or power substations. So, uh, a
[1:53:39] reduction in setbacks to allow for more
[1:53:42] of a site to be used for actual
[1:53:44] substation site. Um, proposal to allow
[1:53:48] for taller walls. Um, not just for
[1:53:52] substations, but in public facility
[1:53:54] zones that potentially could come into
[1:53:55] play for other uses as well. Whereas the
[1:53:58] setback proposal is at least as
[1:54:02] described with the proposed language
[1:54:04] limited to just power substations. Um
[1:54:08] again
[1:54:09] still requiring at least 10 ft between a
[1:54:12] sidewalk and a wall. So you would have
[1:54:14] room for something to and maybe provide
[1:54:18] some additional screening of of what
[1:54:20] otherwise would be a pretty blank space
[1:54:22] that
[1:54:22] >> no wall
[1:54:23] >> potentially 8 foot tall you know masonry
[1:54:25] wall. Um, that's all there is to it. Uh,
[1:54:30] both the DRC and planning commission
[1:54:31] have recommended that this be approved.
[1:54:34] I'd be happy to answer any questions
[1:54:37] that you have,
[1:54:39] >> Dave. These So, if we didn't approve
[1:54:41] number three,
[1:54:43] uh, the requirements apply even if the
[1:54:46] adjacent property is city-owned. Is that
[1:54:48] correct? We would still have to apply
[1:54:52] the same setback rules even if the
[1:54:55] property next door is cityowned and the
[1:54:58] city doesn't care, but we're still
[1:55:00] required to follow those same rules,
[1:55:01] right?
[1:55:04] >> Yes.
[1:55:06] >> Okay. Which explains probably the need
[1:55:09] for the change.
[1:55:15] » Questions for Dave before public
[1:55:17] hearing?
[1:55:20] Thank you, Dave. I'll entertain a motion
[1:55:22] for public hearing for item D.
[1:55:24] >> So moved.
[1:55:26] >> Motion made by Councilman Tuk, second by
[1:55:28] Councilwoman Beck. All in favor say yes.
[1:55:30] >> Yes.
[1:55:31] >> We're in public hearing for item D.
[1:55:32] Anybody from the public that would like
[1:55:34] to speak to this title 15 amendment?
[1:55:38] Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion to
[1:55:40] go out of public hearing.
[1:55:41] >> So moved.
[1:55:42] >> Second.
[1:55:42] >> Motion made by Councilman Oiler, second
[1:55:44] by Councilman uh Carden. All in favor
[1:55:47] say yes. Yes.
[1:55:48] >> Yes. Discussion back up here. Any
[1:55:51] further questions before a motion for D.
[1:55:54] >> Makes sense.
[1:55:56] >> I would entertain a motion for item D.
[1:56:01] I move to approve the ordinance for
[1:56:02] title 15 amendments to change the
[1:56:04] setback requirement for power
[1:56:06] substations in the public facility zone
[1:56:10] and the allowed fence height in the
[1:56:11] public facility zone.
[1:56:14] >> Second. Motion made by Councilman Oiler,
[1:56:16] second by Councilman Carden. A roll call
[1:56:19] vote here. Councilman Oiler, yes.
[1:56:21] >> Councilwoman Beck, yes.
[1:56:22] >> Councilman
[1:56:24] >> Tuk, yes.
[1:56:25] >> And Councilman Carton,
[1:56:26] >> yes.
[1:56:26] >> Item D is approved. Thank you.
[1:56:30] Last public hearing, item E, ordinance
[1:56:32] for title 1541270,
[1:56:35] reimburseable projects impact fee
[1:56:37] deadline update. Mr. Corey Pierce.
[1:56:41] >> Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um this section
[1:56:43] of title 15 before you today deals with
[1:56:46] reimburseable projects. Um as we have
[1:56:49] development coming to the city uh for
[1:56:52] long-term planning. We have our master
[1:56:53] plans that say the sewer line should be
[1:56:55] bigger or the roadway should be wider
[1:56:57] for future growth. Um
[1:57:01] and as we ask developers to build those
[1:57:04] um they have the opportunity to be
[1:57:05] reimbursed for that upsizing of those
[1:57:07] utilities. Um, and then the city
[1:57:10] collects with the building permit
[1:57:11] process impact fees that then can go to
[1:57:14] those developers to pay for that future
[1:57:16] growth. That way, future growth is
[1:57:18] paying for future growth. Um, one of the
[1:57:21] challenges we've had lately um that
[1:57:24] we've noticed more and more of is often
[1:57:27] this ability to ask for reimbursement
[1:57:29] goes on for a long time. Projects are
[1:57:31] finished and we're not seeing the
[1:57:32] applications. And the further that uh
[1:57:36] drags out, the harder it is later on to
[1:57:39] evaluate the costs and and get that in
[1:57:41] the impact fee reimbursement plan. And
[1:57:44] so the proposal today is at a timeline
[1:57:46] for that 6 months after the project's
[1:57:48] completed, signed off into warranty um
[1:57:51] to to have that application in. It's a
[1:57:54] pretty straightforward process through
[1:57:56] Citizen Serve. Um, one of the things we
[1:58:00] talked about in in DRC is making sure
[1:58:02] developers are aware of this. So, we
[1:58:05] will add this as part of our
[1:58:08] pre-construction meeting and even on the
[1:58:10] close out punch list type documents that
[1:58:12] we give a developer. Just trying to make
[1:58:14] sure they're aware and and get that
[1:58:16] application in in a timely manner so we
[1:58:19] can review it while the project's still
[1:58:21] fresh in our minds.
[1:58:25] Cory, are there any state laws that this
[1:58:27] conflicts with in any way?
[1:58:29] >> Not that I'm aware of.
[1:58:34] » Seems timely. Makes sense.
[1:58:37] >> Yeah.
[1:58:39] >> Any other questions for Corey before
[1:58:41] public hearing?
[1:58:41] >> Gotcha. Gotcha.
[1:58:43] >> Thank you.
[1:58:44] Corey. I'd entertain a motion
[1:58:46] to go to public hearing for E.
[1:58:48] >> So moved.
[1:58:50] >> Motion made by Councilman Tuk. Second.
[1:58:52] >> Second by Councilman Oiler. All in favor
[1:58:54] say yes.
[1:58:55] >> Yes.
[1:58:55] >> We're in public hearing for item E.
[1:58:58] Anybody from the public?
[1:59:00] >> Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion to
[1:59:01] go out of public hearing.
[1:59:03] >> So move.
[1:59:03] >> Motion made by Councilwoman Beck.
[1:59:05] >> Second.
[1:59:06] by Councilman Tuk.
[1:59:08] >> I thought Matt was getting up his
[1:59:09] itching.
[1:59:10] >> He might. No. Any further discussion on
[1:59:14] item E?
[1:59:15] >> No.
[1:59:16] >> I would entertain a motion for item E.
[1:59:20] I move that we approve the amendment to
[1:59:23] the title 15
[1:59:25] verbiage around impact fee deadlines.
[1:59:28] >> Motion made by Councilman Carden.
[1:59:30] >> Second.
[1:59:31] by Councilwoman Beck. A roll call
[1:59:33] vote. Councilwoman Beck.
[1:59:34] >> Yes.
[1:59:35] >> Councilman Oiler.
[1:59:36] >> Yes.
[1:59:36] >> Councilman Carden.
[1:59:37] >> Yes.
[1:59:37] >> And Councilman Tuk.
[1:59:38] >> Yes.
[1:59:39] >> Item E is approved.
[1:59:41] >> That takes care of our public uh hearing
[1:59:43] uh section. We're on to new business
[1:59:45] items A through E. First is the station
[1:59:49] 61 GMP and construction agreement.
[1:59:53] This is Matthew T. Romero.
[1:59:56] He's been warming up for
[1:59:57] >> a T.
[1:59:58] >> Is he just
[1:59:59] >> No, it's R. It's an R.
[2:00:02] >> Matthew R.
[2:00:03] >> But uh good evening, mayor and council
[2:00:06] woman and council member u council man.
[2:00:09] I thought the crowd would stay, but
[2:00:12] geez.
[2:00:13] >> They didn't know when you were
[2:00:14] presenting. Nobody Nobody wanted to stay
[2:00:17] for this one.
[2:00:17] >> Could have built it up.
[2:00:19] >> Yeah. Um Yeah, it's exciting.
[2:00:21] >> You didn't stay for the cupcakes. So,
[2:00:23] >> no, it's an exciting exciting time.
[2:00:26] We've worked really hard on this, but um
[2:00:30] got a few things. This fire station 61
[2:00:32] has been identified as a critical
[2:00:34] infrastructure project necessary to
[2:00:36] support the city's continuous growth and
[2:00:38] enhance emergency response times and
[2:00:41] maintain appropriate fire and life
[2:00:43] safety service levels. we have um
[2:00:46] advanced through the planning and design
[2:00:48] phase and we've got the construction
[2:00:51] documents that could reach a level where
[2:00:53] we can establish a GMP and um I actually
[2:00:58] want to thank Chase Hway from Cir
[2:01:00] Construction for joining us tonight. Um
[2:01:03] they've been really good to work with on
[2:01:04] this project and this uh designing and
[2:01:08] getting us to a price on this. They've
[2:01:10] worked very hard and um we're very
[2:01:13] happy. Um cert construction is engaged
[2:01:16] during the pre-construction phase
[2:01:17] providing with cost estimates,
[2:01:19] constructibility reviews and schedule
[2:01:21] input. Um they approached with refine
[2:01:24] and refined the project scope and
[2:01:27] identified potential cost effectiveness
[2:01:30] and um they reduced all all the overall
[2:01:35] project risks on this. Um, city staff is
[2:01:38] recommending to the city council that we
[2:01:40] approve the um, guaranteed maximum price
[2:01:43] agreement with Cir Construction for fire
[2:01:45] station 61 at the price of $16,832,500.
[2:01:53] There's any questions?
[2:01:58] for Matt for this? Uh we have
[2:02:00] Councilwoman Beck and I believe
[2:02:02] Councilman Oiler that were on this
[2:02:04] committee uh going through monthsl long
[2:02:07] process, right?
[2:02:08] >> Yeah. I'll just say we we've sat through
[2:02:10] Yeah. months close to a year.
[2:02:13] >> Yeah. on this and it's really been a
[2:02:15] pleasure to work with AGC architects and
[2:02:18] CIRC and it's been really I think it's
[2:02:21] really cool on my side to hear them rant
[2:02:25] and rave about our city staff and how
[2:02:28] responsive you guys are and how well you
[2:02:32] work together comparative to other
[2:02:34] cities. So that's really cool. So thank
[2:02:37] you. But also, I know everyone has
[2:02:39] really tightened down to to get this
[2:02:42] number as low as we can get it while
[2:02:44] still having a state-of-the-art facility
[2:02:46] without going over budget, but having
[2:02:48] what's needed. I mean, it's such a
[2:02:50] balancing act. So, I'm really happy with
[2:02:53] where we are and those who were so
[2:02:55] involved in all the line items of
[2:02:57] getting things where they needed to be.
[2:02:59] >> So, thank you.
[2:03:00] >> Yep.
[2:03:02] >> Yeah, I agree, Mr. Romero. you've done
[2:03:04] an outstanding job making sure that
[2:03:08] anything that doesn't need to be
[2:03:09] included for cost reasons doesn't get
[2:03:12] included. Um so props to you. Appreciate
[2:03:14] the work that you've put in put into
[2:03:15] this. Uh same with Chief Hails. You've
[2:03:18] both worked worked great as the
[2:03:21] professionals that understand your field
[2:03:23] and know what you need. For us to just
[2:03:25] kind of be flies on the wall and watch you guys work has has been great.
[2:03:29] So appreciate you both.
[2:03:31] >> Thank you. Seth, can we talk to how
[2:03:34] we're how the funding of this is going
[2:03:36] to happen?
[2:03:36] >> Yep. Yeah. Let's finish perhaps this and
[2:03:39] then I'll come down and chat about that.
[2:03:40] >> Good.
[2:03:43] >> So, I have a question for you. Matt, I
[2:03:45] should have prepared you with this. I
[2:03:46] apologize.
[2:03:47] >> Oh, you're fine.
[2:03:47] >> Shouldn't be too bad. But, um, you
[2:03:50] identify the the GMP that covers
[2:03:52] construction of the the structure.
[2:03:55] >> Yeah.
[2:03:56] >> Doesn't include some of the soft costs,
[2:03:59] fees, and FFN and the like. So with a GMP of 165 and change, what where
[2:04:07] what are your estimates for the total
[2:04:08] cost of the project?
[2:04:09] >> So right now um we've got soft costs and
[2:04:13] we've got the fees and the fees are
[2:04:15] always a gamble when we do a budget with
[2:04:18] you guys um until we know meter sizes,
[2:04:21] right? And so right now we're we're
[2:04:24] looking at all the soft costs at um 1.9
[2:04:26] million on that about 2 million.
[2:04:31] So an allin is going to be
[2:04:35] >> about 185
[2:04:36] >> 18 about 1867.
[2:04:38] >> Okay.
[2:04:38] >> And with that there maybe touch on maybe
[2:04:42] just for my sake but the you had a
[2:04:44] couple of
[2:04:45] >> you have a couple of contingencies built
[2:04:47] into that. We've got a builder's
[2:04:48] contingency, a contractors, I think, a
[2:04:51] city contingency, and then
[2:04:53] >> I don't know if you want to touch on the
[2:04:54] peers, but you can touch on that as
[2:04:55] well.
[2:04:55] >> Yeah, I will.
[2:04:56] >> Thanks.
[2:04:56] >> So, when we first came to you guys
[2:04:59] almost a year ago and talked about
[2:05:00] budget, right? You don't really know
[2:05:02] what's under the soil at that time. And
[2:05:04] so, we had a geotechnical report done
[2:05:07] and they came back and said, um, we need
[2:05:09] to put geop under this. And the reason
[2:05:11] we had to do geopars under this type of
[2:05:14] building is because it's a life safety
[2:05:16] building. So it takes you to a different
[2:05:18] tier to do that. And typically you just
[2:05:22] put them on the footings and on the
[2:05:23] edges and stuff like that, but this
[2:05:25] building requires it being everywhere
[2:05:27] under the slab everywhere.
[2:05:29] >> We want this building to stay standing
[2:05:30] if there's an earthquake, right? This
[2:05:32] isn't one that we're gambling with.
[2:05:34] >> Part of the reason why we're moving from
[2:05:35] the building that we're currently in.
[2:05:37] >> Yeah. This structure that we're in right
[2:05:39] now has a similar standard because of
[2:05:40] its council chambers, the finance
[2:05:43] office. So it has a similar requirement
[2:05:46] and this is a liquefaction zone as
[2:05:50] >> and as you think about the
[2:05:51] >> so station 61 on Main Street now was
[2:05:54] never in that standard. So it doesn't
[2:05:57] have that. So if we were to you know
[2:06:00] have that earthquake or whatever the
[2:06:02] liquidation faction if there is it there
[2:06:04] we're not sure because we would I'd have
[2:06:06] to go back through the geotechnical
[2:06:07] report but that that uh building would
[2:06:09] not have it what this one's going to
[2:06:11] have. Um but just those geop pairs
[2:06:14] alone, you know, they they ran us about
[2:06:18] we've put in in the GMP 700,000 for it.
[2:06:22] Um we we got two different bids. One
[2:06:25] came back at saying if we do what the
[2:06:28] geotech says then it was like 426,000.
[2:06:33] But they suggested to us by over time
[2:06:35] what they've seen they wanted us to put
[2:06:37] a contingency in there so that if we
[2:06:40] have to go 30 feet instead of 20 feet
[2:06:43] that that cost is already built in. So
[2:06:45] we've got that cost built in for those
[2:06:47] in case it doesn't test out right. And
[2:06:50] so we feel really comfortable with that.
[2:06:52] Um, another cool thing with working with
[2:06:54] CIRC that I really have really have
[2:06:56] liked is through all of our line items,
[2:07:00] they've carried a a contingency
[2:07:04] um, line item just for like things that
[2:07:07] maybe got missed in the plan. And I've
[2:07:09] never seen that with any of our other
[2:07:11] buildings before. And so I feel really
[2:07:14] comfortable. There's about four about
[2:07:17] 400
[2:07:18] >> 400,000 in that area just so that um I
[2:07:22] don't have to come back to council every
[2:07:24] time to say, "Hey, we've got this or it
[2:07:27] snowed three feet and we've got to cover
[2:07:29] the concrete." We we've got that built
[2:07:31] in on that side. But on top of that, we
[2:07:34] also have a um owners contingency that's
[2:07:37] in our procurement policy that we always
[2:07:40] carry at a percentage. Um, and I believe
[2:07:43] we're carrying 6% 6% on this one, which
[2:07:47] is about average what we we usually go
[2:07:49] between five and six depending on the
[2:07:50] project costs. And so there's another
[2:07:52] 900,000 there. So if you take Gez, all
[2:07:56] that there's there's over $2 million
[2:07:59] just there in savings if if we didn't
[2:08:01] have to touch any of that that would
[2:08:02] come back to us. And you know, it's one
[2:08:05] of those things that it's an insurance
[2:08:07] policy kind of like I don't want to have
[2:08:09] to come back every month to to do that.
[2:08:12] We we like to have that so that we can
[2:08:13] get the job moving and get it going and but then at the end of the project
[2:08:18] their fees and everything um they give
[2:08:21] that back to us whatever's left over and
[2:08:24] through um a lot of these buildings like
[2:08:27] the rec center right now that we're
[2:08:29] working on. We should get a pretty
[2:08:31] decent amount of money back there. We
[2:08:33] haven't really finalized the final
[2:08:35] contingency on that. SFCN I believe we
[2:08:38] got about 300,000 back. And on this
[2:08:41] building here, we got about um I believe
[2:08:45] it was about 220,000.
[2:08:47] And those are those those contingencies.
[2:08:49] Some of those were a lot lower um than
[2:08:51] what this one is. But we feel like with
[2:08:54] this one, we we're really comfortable.
[2:08:55] We'd rather we're right at that number
[2:08:58] we kind of talked about, but we're
[2:08:59] hoping to bring back more money to you
[2:09:02] guys in savings on that. So when we go
[2:09:04] to the bond, we don't have to do that.
[2:09:07] >> good.
[2:09:09] Fire sprinklers is a line item in the
[2:09:11] firehouse. Why don't you just put it out
[2:09:13] with the truck, Chief? Seems redundant.
[2:09:16] >> When's the last time we had a fire?
[2:09:19] the fire station, Chief?
[2:09:22] >> Three or four months ago. It happens,
[2:09:26] believe it or not.
[2:09:29] >> Do you call 911? And if so, who answers?
[2:09:31] >> Yeah. Who answers that?
[2:09:34] >> Screen.
[2:09:39] Did you wait until you were dispatched
[2:09:40] before you responded?
[2:09:41] >> Yeah.
[2:09:42] >> Don't go yet, guys.
[2:09:44] >> One other thing to note too that um I
[2:09:47] forgot to mention is um so when we got
[2:09:51] this, you know, I asked CIRC, I said,
[2:09:54] "So, where was your last fire station
[2:09:56] square footage price at?" Just cuz I
[2:09:58] wanted to compare that. I think Kevin
[2:09:59] and Stace were in that meeting and it
[2:10:01] was at $6, no $630 a square foot. where
[2:10:05] with us putting these contingencies in
[2:10:08] and the bottom line it came in at um
[2:10:10] 569. So we were
[2:10:12] >> low
[2:10:12] >> way lower than what uh the city of
[2:10:15] Farmington just did which was I think
[2:10:17] this job bid at the perfect time. It was
[2:10:20] I remember them calling and telling me
[2:10:22] what happened at Farmington. They were
[2:10:24] under budget and I pushed to AJC and
[2:10:27] says you got one week and we're going to
[2:10:29] bid because we have got to hit this
[2:10:30] price. So they really did work hard to get us there and and I it reflect in
[2:10:35] the square footage number for sure. So
[2:10:39] >> yeah, great John. Very good work.
[2:10:42] >> Very good work and uh it's going to be a great place for for the new station.
[2:10:48] >> Mr. Parents to talk about the numbers.
[2:10:50] >> Yeah, thank you. Any other questions
[2:10:52] though before that? Any questions on the
[2:10:54] GMP? We should ask you when uh you've
[2:10:58] been here for a couple of hours. Get up
[2:11:00] here. Tell us when when do you think
[2:11:01] you'd start construction?
[2:11:05] >> Yeah. Come on. You you can't say
[2:11:07] two and a half hours and not say
[2:11:09] anything, right? When when do you guys
[2:11:11] plan on when do you think you'll start
[2:11:12] construction? When do you think you'll
[2:11:14] be done? Give us some of that
[2:11:16] information.
[2:11:17] >> Sure. At at soon as the contract is
[2:11:20] signed.
[2:11:21] >> Tell Steve
[2:11:22] >> Oh, tell your name.
[2:11:24] >> Oh, Chase Hathaway.
[2:11:27] Um, as soon as the contract is signed
[2:11:31] with the city, we
[2:11:34] plan to start writing contracts. Um,
[2:11:37] we've already kind of done some
[2:11:38] preemptive measures as far as getting
[2:11:41] the GOP
[2:11:43] um, subcontractor online with us and
[2:11:47] they're working through design right
[2:11:48] now. And so we we'll probably be
[2:11:53] probably about midappril is probably
[2:11:55] when we would would start. So
[2:11:59] >> I thought he was going to say as soon as
[2:12:00] the weather breaks we get good weather.
[2:12:03] >> The weather the weather's perfect right
[2:12:04] now.
[2:12:04] >> Jace and Matt, maybe both of you can
[2:12:06] answer this. Do you plan on working
[2:12:11] side by side as far as moving the
[2:12:13] substation and starting on the fire
[2:12:15] station or does one have to come before
[2:12:17] the other?
[2:12:18] >> Yeah. So that this is kind of a tricky
[2:12:20] project too. So we've ordered the steel
[2:12:23] for the the substation um the the lines
[2:12:27] that come down. We don't get those until
[2:12:30] I believe it's November, but um we'll
[2:12:33] work with them. So the good thing about
[2:12:35] the old Argyle substation right now is
[2:12:38] it's in the parking lot. So it's outside
[2:12:41] the envelope of the building. So it
[2:12:43] doesn't affect that at all. So we can
[2:12:46] we've started doing other things already
[2:12:48] at Argyle and then um by the time the
[2:12:51] switch over is over because we can't
[2:12:52] really just turn Argyle off. We have to
[2:12:55] get it built and then make a switch at a
[2:12:57] certain time of the year once the power
[2:13:00] saying around the AC. So, we're hoping
[2:13:02] around um ne this spring before we have
[2:13:06] to turn AC's on, well, I guess a year
[2:13:08] from now, I should say, that we can make
[2:13:10] that switch and then they can finish out
[2:13:13] that end of the parking lot and and move
[2:13:14] forward. But the building should it
[2:13:16] doesn't fit in the the footprint of the
[2:13:19] substation.
[2:13:19] >> Okay. Great. So,
[2:13:24] » Chase, you'll keep Al Peterson far away
[2:13:26] from any project you do.
[2:13:28] >> You keep who? Unless it it's next to a
[2:13:30] golf course.
[2:13:31] >> Oh, okay. We don't have to worry about
[2:13:33] it.
[2:13:36] >> Um, all right. Thank you. We've talked
[2:13:37] about this in a couple of previous
[2:13:38] meetings and I'm going to grab a couple
[2:13:40] of slides from two of those meetings to
[2:13:43] just walk through. First of all, I want
[2:13:44] to show you from a council meeting we
[2:13:46] had maybe three or three or four
[2:13:50] meetings ago. Maybe it was three or four
[2:13:52] months ago. I can't remember. I want to
[2:13:54] correct something. We have talked with
[2:13:56] you about having a $15 million bond.
[2:14:00] That's been a consistent number that
[2:14:01] we've talked about. In this slide, we we
[2:14:04] were talking about bonding, but it was
[2:14:07] mislabeled uh as a $15 million total for
[2:14:10] the project. That is an error. That
[2:14:12] should have been about 18 million. And
[2:14:13] we heard that tonight with with the
[2:14:15] numbers that uh that Matt shared with
[2:14:18] you. So I wanted to correct that because
[2:14:20] that as we were reviewing a couple of
[2:14:21] things we saw that and thought uh we
[2:14:23] should have been more clear with how we
[2:14:25] described that the project uh will be as
[2:14:28] Matt said the GMP will be eight 16.5
[2:14:32] million and change
[2:14:34] >> 168. Why am I saying five?
[2:14:36] >> I feel like I read five.
[2:14:37] >> That's why I kept wondering why
[2:14:39] >> the GMP is now 12 million just because I
[2:14:42] like that number better.
[2:14:45] I'm just kidding. whatever the number
[2:14:46] Matt said, not the what Seth said. Um,
[2:14:51] with that though, uh, jump to SL jump
[2:14:54] two slides if you would. Um, reminding
[2:14:56] the public we're we're
[2:14:59] rebuilding station 61 from its location
[2:15:02] on Main Street to a property immediately
[2:15:05] west of us uh, on the where the old
[2:15:08] senior center was. It's now been
[2:15:10] demolished.
[2:15:12] And, um, what did you say, Chase? I
[2:15:16] asked Matt a question. Right when you
[2:15:17] said the time frame when we have
[2:15:18] contracts to completion, you said about
[2:15:20] how many months?
[2:15:21] >> Geoper guy. We're we're looking to kind
[2:15:25] of get everything
[2:15:30] » mobilized May to April. Perfect. All
[2:15:32] right. Um so we'll start to see
[2:15:36] >> July 27th.
[2:15:37] >> July 27 we'd see substantial completion
[2:15:40] and then start working from there. Um,
[2:15:43] so in uh any questions? Well,
[2:15:47] all you'll have is questions probably
[2:15:48] about what I'm going to talk about in a
[2:15:49] second. So, in a in a recent uh work
[2:15:52] session that we had with you, we
[2:15:54] outlined the timeline of bonding for
[2:15:57] this. It's going to be a little bit
[2:15:59] unique. At least what we propose is that
[2:16:01] we do this a little bit unique from the
[2:16:03] typical. From the typical, you might
[2:16:05] have, well, you're going to you got a
[2:16:06] GMP today. Let's start the bonding
[2:16:08] process and get a dollar amount, get
[2:16:10] that bond money in place immediately.
[2:16:13] With this, you heard Matt outline a
[2:16:14] number of contingencies
[2:16:17] um that are in place. We'll know the
[2:16:19] number on the peers probably
[2:16:22] >> we'll probably have that certainly
[2:16:24] before the end of the summer.
[2:16:25] >> Yes. Um and so and as you start the
[2:16:29] project, most of the contingencies seem
[2:16:31] to get used at the beginning uh when you're into a lot of the the
[2:16:36] details that are underground and
[2:16:37] whatnot. So we also have another
[2:16:41] building project that we're talking
[2:16:43] about a public workshop. We're not going
[2:16:45] to focus on the public workshop today,
[2:16:46] but because we are talking about a
[2:16:49] public workshop, it's really smart for
[2:16:51] us to combine a bond for a if we're
[2:16:53] going to do both
[2:16:56] that we combine them into one bond. And
[2:16:58] so we have the ability with the fire
[2:17:00] station to front a lot of the required
[2:17:03] cash. Let me say it this way. We can use
[2:17:06] savings to do it, but we can't deplete
[2:17:10] that. We don't want to deplete or we
[2:17:11] wouldn't recommend depleting all of our
[2:17:13] savings
[2:17:15] forever. So, we have the ability to
[2:17:17] front at least some of the construction
[2:17:19] costs with with our savings and then
[2:17:21] replenish that when we get the bond,
[2:17:23] which gives us a lot of flexibility.
[2:17:26] Right now, the bond market is fairly
[2:17:28] stable. Actually, the last month, the
[2:17:30] bond market's been wonky. And uh
[2:17:32] Jonathan who was here earlier today our
[2:17:34] financial adviser said the bond market
[2:17:36] has gone up about 50 basis points about
[2:17:38] half a percent just because of the
[2:17:40] unrest uh the geopolitical unrest around
[2:17:42] the world. But as that stabilizes back
[2:17:44] and and with how they're seeing it we'll
[2:17:46] probably see rates return to about 3 and
[2:17:49] a half% maybe three and a quarter or
[2:17:51] down to three if his crystal ball is as
[2:17:54] good as we want it to be. Um he he said
[2:17:57] that in a year from now you probably
[2:17:59] have at least as favorable if not
[2:18:01] slightly better rates than you have
[2:18:03] today which says waiting a year is
[2:18:06] probably a really good idea. Um so we
[2:18:08] have the ability like I said to front
[2:18:10] with with cash from our savings account
[2:18:14] uh the construction for uh a year and
[2:18:17] then reimburse ourselves once we get a
[2:18:19] bond. By doing that we we can tighten
[2:18:22] down the actual dollar amount that we
[2:18:24] need. Right now, we estimate that we'll
[2:18:25] need um no more than $15 million in the
[2:18:29] bond, but it's possible that we'll only
[2:18:31] need 14 by the time we get to that point
[2:18:33] of the construction because we know that
[2:18:36] we've we've restricted down some of the
[2:18:38] those um
[2:18:41] contingencies and the like. So, it gives
[2:18:43] us the ability to really fine-tune that
[2:18:45] dollar amount. As you can see, um
[2:18:47] tonight, however, is as we described it,
[2:18:50] the moment of final commitment. If you
[2:18:52] choose tonight to approve the GMP and
[2:18:54] move forward with the construction, we
[2:18:56] are saying that one, we're going to
[2:18:58] build this and we need to have the
[2:18:59] funding to construct the 16.8 million
[2:19:03] building. We do not suggest that we have
[2:19:07] that we use uh cash on hand to build all
[2:19:10] of that, which means we would need to
[2:19:12] bond. So the moment of commitment
[2:19:14] tonight is is basically twofold. One,
[2:19:16] you're saying that we're going to build
[2:19:17] it if you approve the GMP. And two, we
[2:19:20] would strongly advise that you also say
[2:19:22] and we intend to bond. We would make
[2:19:25] that intention to bond formalized with
[2:19:29] um some param something that's called
[2:19:32] parameters resolution. That's a formal
[2:19:34] process, a public hearing. I think it's
[2:19:36] a public hearing. Uh but it's a
[2:19:38] formalized process, a legislative action
[2:19:40] that you take where we review documents
[2:19:42] that our financial adviserss and bond
[2:19:44] councils prepare for us that say we
[2:19:47] intend to bond uh no more than this
[2:19:49] amount, no more than this rate, and then
[2:19:51] we can bond um into the future, maybe a
[2:19:55] year or so down the road, like I said.
[2:19:57] So, let me sum up. We need we will need
[2:19:59] to bond if we build this. We will need
[2:20:01] to bond for about $15 million,
[2:20:04] probably no more than that, perhaps
[2:20:06] less. um based on the timing when we can
[2:20:09] identify and and and narrow down those
[2:20:12] contingencies as we move forward. Uh but
[2:20:15] we would suggest that you actually bond
[2:20:18] for that about a year from now, but that
[2:20:20] you commit to that process today if you
[2:20:23] move forward and uh we would have no
[2:20:26] later than uh a council meeting in May
[2:20:29] that parameters resolution.
[2:20:32] Jesse, did I get there? You
[2:20:34] >> answered it. Okay.
[2:20:39] Further questions for Seth about that
[2:20:42] timeline.
[2:20:45] Appreciate that. I think it's always
[2:20:46] been a discussion about uh when we talk
[2:20:48] about this, what do we do with the old
[2:20:50] station um plans are?
[2:20:54] >> Yeah, thank you. We've got it's what
[2:20:57] chief about one and a half years before
[2:20:59] we'd be out of it now. March to
[2:21:03] Septemberish.
[2:21:05] So about a year and a half before we're
[2:21:06] going to be out of it. Uh we need to
[2:21:08] start talking about that in earnest. Uh
[2:21:10] what do we want to do with that? Uh we
[2:21:13] don't need to amass properties. So once
[2:21:15] we move out of it, it would be our
[2:21:17] recommendation at least initially that
[2:21:18] we study the possibility of selling that
[2:21:20] ground in some way. There's been some
[2:21:22] discussions we've had here publicly uh
[2:21:24] and with members of different groups
[2:21:26] that if we're going to sell
[2:21:29] uh the station 61 side on Main Street,
[2:21:31] we ought to talk about the memorial
[2:21:32] building as well. And I think that
[2:21:34] that's a good idea uh and involve uh the groups involved in that building as
[2:21:41] well. Um this is something that we've
[2:21:43] suggested. We talked about this in
[2:21:45] midway. We've got some initial feedback
[2:21:46] from you. This is not finalized but
[2:21:48] again work session type material. We
[2:21:50] estimate 10-year bond about $15 million.
[2:21:54] Um and that this this portion of that
[2:21:59] bond would be paid back with public
[2:22:01] safety impact fees. Um, it won't cover
[2:22:04] all of the building because there is
[2:22:06] some current use of the building and
[2:22:08] impact fees can only be used for growth.
[2:22:10] So, we can't use impact fees for all of
[2:22:12] it, but we can use it for about half of
[2:22:14] it. So, we'd pay for some of that with
[2:22:16] impact fees, some of it with uh what we
[2:22:19] call cap uh capital projects dollars. We save money every year for these types
[2:22:23] of projects. And then uh there is the
[2:22:25] possibility of using some money from
[2:22:27] power and light. We got a little bit of
[2:22:28] feedback from you on that. I don't know
[2:22:30] if we really discussed that but that's
[2:22:32] this was the proposal that we talked
[2:22:34] about or at least the high level
[2:22:35] thoughts that we talked about uh in
[2:22:37] January. So just sharing that here.
[2:22:42] » Thank you manager. Appreciate that. Any
[2:22:45] further
[2:22:47] questions
[2:22:49] or statements about uh item A of new
[2:22:53] business?
[2:22:54] I think Stacy and Kevin already kind of
[2:22:56] covered this, but thanks to the team for
[2:22:58] one going through the process of
[2:23:00] illustrating the need for it. I think
[2:23:02] that we did a really um a lot of good
[2:23:04] public outreach and having the tour of
[2:23:06] 61, letting people see what the
[2:23:08] conditions are there, but also working
[2:23:10] through this process and also with a
[2:23:12] fine tooth comb like it hasn't been an
[2:23:14] easy process I don't think for anybody
[2:23:16] um because we wanted to make sure we get
[2:23:17] it right and then also um making sure
[2:23:20] that we get the funding mechanism right
[2:23:21] as well. So, and I think it's um as Seth
[2:23:24] laid out, it's important that we are
[2:23:26] clear that we're looking to bond for
[2:23:28] this. It might not be tomorrow, but it
[2:23:31] is going to happen um at part of the
[2:23:33] process. And I think we want to be clear
[2:23:34] about that as well.
[2:23:38] >> Perfect. Good summary. Um with that
[2:23:40] summary, I'd entertain a motion on item
[2:23:43] A to move uh forward on station 61 GMP
[2:23:46] and construction agreement. I move to
[2:23:49] approve station 61 GMP and the
[2:23:52] construction agreement.
[2:23:54] >> Motion made by Councilwoman Beck.
[2:23:57] >> Second.
[2:23:57] by Councilman Oiler. A roll call
[2:23:59] vote here. Councilman Oiler.
[2:24:01] >> Yes.
[2:24:02] >> Councilman Carden. Yes.
[2:24:03] >> Councilman Tuk. Yes.
[2:24:04] >> And Councilwoman Beck.
[2:24:05] >> Yes.
[2:24:07] >> A moves on approved. Thank you.
[2:24:10] Appreciate the presentation. Appreciate
[2:24:12] the numbers. And uh we'll look for it to
[2:24:15] be done soon.
[2:24:17] >> Soon. soon. Get her done yesterday. So
[2:24:20] again, we'll we'll work with our
[2:24:21] financial advisor and have a parameters
[2:24:24] resolution
[2:24:25] >> um
[2:24:27] >> have a parameters resolution for your
[2:24:28] review in no later than a council
[2:24:30] meeting in May.
[2:24:31] >> Perfect. Thanks.
[2:24:32] >> So coming back up in May uh for uh for
[2:24:35] more discussion about that resolution
[2:24:37] and um yep, wa watch for uh watch for
[2:24:41] details from the city there. Okay. takes
[2:24:44] us to item B under new business, the
[2:24:46] sponsorship agreement with Utah County
[2:24:48] for the Spanish Fork competition pool.
[2:24:52] » Can I just say that Matt looks really
[2:24:54] nice tonight?
[2:24:56] >> Sure does. You guys agree with that?
[2:24:58] Been a good He's always been a good
[2:24:59] looking man.
[2:25:00] >> You know, that one comment that one time
[2:25:02] really stuck to me.
[2:25:04] >> He looks like he could work for the
[2:25:06] parks and recreation department. Oh,
[2:25:08] wait a minute. He does. He does. Don't
[2:25:11] even get a chuck out.
[2:25:12] >> I know. He's he's deep inside. He looks
[2:25:15] like he could work in a cubicle for you.
[2:25:17] >> He's too sunburned for that.
[2:25:19] >> He uh he has worked for the parks and
[2:25:21] recreation department.
[2:25:23] >> And and can I just say Matt is a Matt
[2:25:26] was a great hireer.
[2:25:28] >> Uh he has been a real asset to this
[2:25:31] city, to us personally with all our
[2:25:33] construction jobs and I know others. Uh
[2:25:36] it's a real real he's a real asset and a
[2:25:39] blessing for our city. Um
[2:25:43] I had the chance to work with his father
[2:25:45] almost 30 years ago.
[2:25:47] >> Wow.
[2:25:48] >> And of course I've had many
[2:25:49] opportunities to work with with his
[2:25:52] mother and she just keeps coming back
[2:25:53] around.
[2:25:57] » It it wasn't hard. She's she is a
[2:26:00] community-minded person, that woman. Uh
[2:26:03] I love her. So, uh, son of a a ranchers,
[2:26:09] I would say he comes from Goodstock.
[2:26:11] >> There you go.
[2:26:12] >> So, he does
[2:26:13] >> love working with Matt. I don't know
[2:26:15] that you really have to stay, but we do
[2:26:16] have a building that's on the docket
[2:26:18] here in just a minute that has something
[2:26:21] to do with you.
[2:26:23] Um, but as for this this agenda item,
[2:26:27] um,
[2:26:28] man, it's been it's been uh years ago, I
[2:26:33] guess, since we went over to the county,
[2:26:36] uh, the mayor and Seth and I to, uh,
[2:26:39] make a presentation and ask for some
[2:26:42] funding,
[2:26:44] uh, to try to help with the rec center.
[2:26:47] And, uh,
[2:26:50] a a portion of this is just now coming
[2:26:52] to fruition. So, it's taken it's taken a
[2:26:54] few years. Uh, so the agreement that you
[2:26:57] have before you is uh an agreement with
[2:26:59] the county where they're going to uh
[2:27:02] reimburse the city up to a million
[2:27:04] dollars for the construction of the
[2:27:06] competition pool, which is what our uh
[2:27:09] presentation was focused on was that
[2:27:11] competition pool at the Fit City Center.
[2:27:15] Uh the agreement, and I'm just
[2:27:16] summarizing what's in this uh long
[2:27:18] document, but uh this agreement is for a
[2:27:20] five-year period.
[2:27:23] which will end on December 31st, 2030.
[2:27:28] And uh
[2:27:30] the city will consider anyone within the
[2:27:32] 84660 zip code as a resident when
[2:27:35] purchasing fit city memberships.
[2:27:39] So we've agreed to this what that's what
[2:27:41] it says in this agreement. And also
[2:27:44] uh we'll also extend the same benefit to
[2:27:46] those that live in unincorporated 84653
[2:27:50] zip code.
[2:27:52] the countyy's providing that information
[2:27:54] for us, right? We're not having to spend
[2:27:55] any hours or time tracking down who that
[2:27:58] might be. Uh but they're trying to take
[2:28:00] care of some of their unincorporated
[2:28:02] residents down in this end of the
[2:28:03] valley. Um so that's what we are
[2:28:07] agreeing to in this contract.
[2:28:13] any questions? That's kind of it in a
[2:28:14] nutshell.
[2:28:16] uh we just uh they're going to be uh
[2:28:20] giving us a million dollars uh as soon
[2:28:23] as we submit for reimbursements for some
[2:28:26] of the costs that were expended in
[2:28:29] building that portion of the rec center.
[2:28:31] >> we got very many individuals that we'll
[2:28:33] need to make price adjustments for after
[2:28:36] we approve this as far as that have
[2:28:37] already possibly signed up for a
[2:28:40] membership and now they'll get the res.
[2:28:44] The way we've decided to handle that is
[2:28:46] if is if is if and when they come to us,
[2:28:48] if they've already signed up, we'll just
[2:28:50] we won't reimburse any money. We'll just
[2:28:53] refund any money. We'll just uh extend
[2:28:55] membership.
[2:28:56] >> Okay?
[2:28:57] >> So that they get that value,
[2:28:58] >> give them some extra money,
[2:28:59] >> whether it's a couple months or three
[2:29:00] months or whatever it might be. That way
[2:29:02] it's it's cleaner.
[2:29:03] >> Okay?
[2:29:04] >> Uh because we really couldn't act and
[2:29:06] our staff was just in limbo. So I just
[2:29:08] said you guys need to just charge them
[2:29:10] the full rate and if something happens
[2:29:12] then we'll we'll take care of them
[2:29:13] later. But
[2:29:15] >> u because this has been a long drawn out
[2:29:17] process as you know.
[2:29:20] Good question.
[2:29:23] >> Senator city center already
[2:29:25] >> but this should entice more people. But
[2:29:28] appreciate the county's partnership on
[2:29:30] this. It's an important piece of our
[2:29:31] city but an important piece of South
[2:29:34] Utah County for sure.
[2:29:37] If there's no other questions for Dale,
[2:29:38] I'd entertain a motion for item B.
[2:29:40] >> I move to approve the sponsorship
[2:29:42] agreement with Utah County for
[2:29:43] Spanishport competition pool.
[2:29:46] >> Motion made by Councilman Carden.
[2:29:48] >> Second.
[2:29:49] by Councilman Tuk.
[2:29:51] >> Roll call vote here. Councilman Tuk.
[2:29:53] Yes.
[2:29:54] >> Councilwoman Beck. Yes.
[2:29:55] >> Councilman Oiler. Yes. And Councilman
[2:29:57] Cardon.
[2:29:57] >> Yes.
[2:29:58] >> B is approved.
[2:30:00] >> Another Utah County interlocal agreement
[2:30:03] that Dale has worked on as well.
[2:30:06] >> Yeah. So, this uh this is an addendum to
[2:30:10] the original agreement that we made with
[2:30:11] Utah County back in 2008
[2:30:15] uh regarding operations at the
[2:30:17] fairgrounds. So, I know you guys know,
[2:30:19] but for those of TV land that may not
[2:30:22] know, the county is a full partner in
[2:30:24] this in this uh fairgrounds facility. Uh
[2:30:28] and and we we work closely with them. uh
[2:30:33] they pay for half of the operation and
[2:30:35] maintenance of the facility. Um
[2:30:39] but when we have spec when we have uh
[2:30:42] capital improvement projects then we get
[2:30:44] together with the the fairgrounds
[2:30:46] committee and talk to them about whether
[2:30:49] this is something that would be be good
[2:30:51] and if we do we split the cost with
[2:30:53] them. So, uh, this agreement addresses
[2:30:57] the the new, uh, indoor arena that will
[2:31:02] replace the Willie barn,
[2:31:04] uh, and also a new stall barn.
[2:31:08] Um, as well as the removal of some of
[2:31:11] those old that the old uh indoor stall
[2:31:14] barn that's, uh, just east of the the
[2:31:16] offices there. Uh so it's basically uh
[2:31:20] taking the next step in our master plan.
[2:31:23] So uh it addresses the joint
[2:31:25] construction of the new facility uh and
[2:31:28] the stall barn as I mentioned. Also in
[2:31:31] this facility, the indoor facility will
[2:31:33] also include uh offices to house the
[2:31:35] Utah State University Extension program.
[2:31:40] and uh both the county and the city will
[2:31:43] each pay half accordingly of the
[2:31:45] estimated 111
[2:31:48] a,231,000.
[2:31:51] Uh, and then it's specified in there
[2:31:53] that the county will pay $350,000 before
[2:31:56] June 30th of this year and then the
[2:31:59] balance of 5,265,500
[2:32:04] after July 1st of 26 and before June
[2:32:07] 30th of 27.
[2:32:09] So, we're basically splitting the costs
[2:32:12] uh of this facility.
[2:32:18] This has a uh and I don't know maybe
[2:32:22] unless you're familiar with the opera
[2:32:24] with with the facility itself. Um the
[2:32:28] county has a a real vested interest in
[2:32:32] facilities that bring economic impact to
[2:32:35] Utah County. And so, uh, this new indoor
[2:32:39] arena as well as these additional
[2:32:42] stalls,
[2:32:44] uh, really, uh, the studies that we've
[2:32:47] done, the economic impact studies that
[2:32:48] we've done just on that alone, uh, have
[2:32:51] a huge return. And so that's that's
[2:32:53] really why the county uh and and why we
[2:32:56] are interested in improving the facility
[2:32:59] uh because it's going to bring back a
[2:33:01] lot of shows uh and make it possible for
[2:33:04] us to host a lot of shows that bring a
[2:33:07] lot of people into town uh for multiple
[2:33:10] days. And the numbers are pretty
[2:33:12] incredible.
[2:33:14] uh which is why the county also is very
[2:33:16] interested in in improving these
[2:33:18] facilities as well as the old Willie
[2:33:21] barn is the old Willie barn and it's old, it's not safe and so this is a
[2:33:26] good move for us to be able to improve
[2:33:28] the facility but also bring some some
[2:33:31] really nice events to the fairgrounds.
[2:33:34] some high quality horse shows and
[2:33:36] different things that that just we can't
[2:33:38] house right now because we don't have
[2:33:40] enough uh facilities to be able to do
[2:33:43] that.
[2:33:47] » Questions for Dale about this one?
[2:33:49] >> Dale, with this one, we talked a little
[2:33:51] bit about station 61 when that gets
[2:33:54] moved, what the plan is with that
[2:33:56] existing
[2:33:58] location with the Willie Barn. It's
[2:34:00] lived a good life. What's the plan as
[2:34:02] far as tearing that down and we going to
[2:34:05] try and scrap that? What what what we
[2:34:07] typically typically do
[2:34:10] when when we're done with a a facility
[2:34:13] or something like that. What's the plan
[2:34:14] with the Willie Barn?
[2:34:15] >> What we probably normally would do in a
[2:34:17] circumstance like this is you would have
[2:34:19] people obviously farmers or somebody
[2:34:21] that's interested in having that
[2:34:22] facility.
[2:34:23] >> Yeah. Uh in this case, um timing is a
[2:34:28] real issue uh because we have a very
[2:34:30] small window um to get this thing torn
[2:34:33] down, built
[2:34:36] uh and going again before we have major
[2:34:38] events. So, we can't start on this until
[2:34:42] uh until August. We're trying to push
[2:34:45] that up a little bit. Yeah. because
[2:34:46] we're in such a tight window, we're
[2:34:48] trying to get in there after the
[2:34:49] livestock show and see if we can start
[2:34:52] doing some things uh in the back where
[2:34:55] the stall barn's going to go. Uh which
[2:34:58] would limit which would limit some
[2:35:00] public parking basically is what it
[2:35:02] would what it would come down to. The
[2:35:04] public parking on the east end of that we've been using for rodeo is going
[2:35:09] to have to go away anyway except for
[2:35:11] there's one parking lot we will use
[2:35:13] that's up by the facility shop. But the
[2:35:16] rest of it we is going to have to be
[2:35:18] turned into contestant parking because
[2:35:21] we're going to consume that with a big
[2:35:23] stall barn right there. And so they're
[2:35:24] going to have to move out where the
[2:35:25] public parked. And we're going to so
[2:35:27] we're going to force the public to go on
[2:35:29] the south end of the parking lot and
[2:35:30] actually fill that up which we haven't
[2:35:33] yet so far. So this we just might move
[2:35:36] that up a year. Move that up a year is
[2:35:38] what I'm saying because it's inevitable
[2:35:40] that we're going to have to take that
[2:35:42] parking lot anyway. Uh so we're still
[2:35:44] looking at that. I know these guys met
[2:35:46] today. Uh but we we need all the time we
[2:35:49] can get because we can't start till then
[2:35:51] and then we have to be done by April
[2:35:55] >> March. We got to be done by March. So
[2:35:58] it's a pretty short window
[2:36:01] to get back to get back to the cycle of
[2:36:03] the livestock show and all the the rodeo
[2:36:05] all the big all the big events that we
[2:36:07] have.
[2:36:08] So I didn't answer your question. No
[2:36:11] started to
[2:36:12] >> started to. Um, so normally we just
[2:36:15] don't have time to have that process
[2:36:17] take place. So it's going to be it's
[2:36:19] going to be demolished.
[2:36:22] >> Um, did I say that right?
[2:36:24] >> Yeah.
[2:36:24] >> Cuz because we've had people that have
[2:36:26] required, right? A lot of times you'll
[2:36:28] have farmers, but they just take so long
[2:36:30] to be able to take their part and get
[2:36:32] that stuff moved out if they want to.
[2:36:34] And we just don't have we don't have
[2:36:36] time to do that
[2:36:37] >> to do that. Just take it apart, put out
[2:36:39] front, say free to get home.
[2:36:42] Bring your own trailer to haul it off.
[2:36:43] >> I know to say free. Must be gone
[2:36:45] tomorrow.
[2:36:46] >> Must move in one load.
[2:36:49] >> Must move in one
[2:36:50] >> one load.
[2:36:55] » Yeah, that is something that people have
[2:36:57] asked about and some and people will
[2:36:59] continue, I'm sure. Hey, that's good.
[2:37:01] It's not good. Um, and for us to be in
[2:37:03] the business of of government as we are
[2:37:06] and to let that go to somebody else,
[2:37:08] it's just a bad idea for us to be in
[2:37:11] that game. The timing wise is Dale's
[2:37:13] outline. Um, it's there the safety of
[2:37:17] that structure are the safety of that
[2:37:19] structure is a large reason for what
[2:37:22] we're doing. So,
[2:37:24] >> yeah, makes sense.
[2:37:26] >> Yeah. Hey Dell, is it um quick question,
[2:37:28] is it expected or or surprising that the
[2:37:31] Willie Barn has outlasted its previous
[2:37:33] owner, Willie Nelson?
[2:37:36] >> Actually, it's not surprising.
[2:37:41] » Yeah, that is kind of a fun a fun piece
[2:37:43] of the the fairgrounds though to have
[2:37:46] that heritage to know that came from
[2:37:48] him.
[2:37:49] And I think we should name the resulting
[2:37:52] structure the Willie Barn even though it
[2:37:54] won't be the same, but we certainly can
[2:37:55] carry on that name and
[2:37:57] >> call it Willy.
[2:37:58] >> That's kind of fun.
[2:38:00] >> Willie 2.0.
[2:38:02] >> It's going to be bigger. If it was going
[2:38:04] to be smaller, we could call it we
[2:38:05] Willy, but
[2:38:06] >> it's going to be bigger.
[2:38:08] >> Wow. It's getting late, huh?
[2:38:10] >> We're not even that time.
[2:38:11] >> We're not even at 9 yet.
[2:38:12] >> I know.
[2:38:13] >> I'm just saying.
[2:38:14] >> Well, the Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I do have
[2:38:18] one other thing, but go ahead.
[2:38:20] >> No, you I'm going to totally kind of
[2:38:23] take a turn around and barrel
[2:38:24] >> beer. Okay.
[2:38:25] >> Yeah.
[2:38:27] >> You want me to veer? Oh, no. Go. Sorry.
[2:38:30] >> My thanks is going to just just uh just
[2:38:32] be to to Nick and and Dale and Seth. Uh
[2:38:36] Matt been on this too and and and a team
[2:38:38] of people that uh have been able to to have this vision and and bring it to
[2:38:44] us and bring it to the county as well. I
[2:38:47] guess the point if if if if residents
[2:38:49] are are still watching this late or or
[2:38:51] going to watch this later. Um I struggle
[2:38:55] when people make blanket comments about Spanish Fork and and and what it
[2:39:00] was at one point and now what it is and they try to relate that sometimes to
[2:39:06] the agriculture heritage or the farming
[2:39:08] heritage. This is 11 million dollar
[2:39:13] 11,231,000
[2:39:16] of taxpayer dollars invested into that
[2:39:21] heritage and keeping that alive and
[2:39:24] growing it. The only things that are
[2:39:26] going to be in this building are animals
[2:39:29] and sometimes kids with animals and
[2:39:30] sometimes very much professionals with
[2:39:32] animals.
[2:39:34] But it is agriculture in which our
[2:39:37] fairgrounds is at. Now, we don't
[2:39:38] control,
[2:39:40] which you don't want government to
[2:39:42] control everybody's ground. So, if if
[2:39:44] there's a farmer close to us or or
[2:39:46] inside city limits that decides to do
[2:39:48] something else with their ground, well,
[2:39:50] that's their decision and they got some
[2:39:52] process to go through. But I love that
[2:39:55] when it's our decision and it's our
[2:39:57] ground, your city is investing 5.2 2
[2:40:01] million of just your taxpayer dollars
[2:40:03] here in Spanish Fork into that heritage
[2:40:06] alive. Keeping that heritage alive. Not
[2:40:09] just keeping it alive, but but growing
[2:40:10] it and fostering it. You're not going to
[2:40:13] find in the Wasatch front, I would
[2:40:16] assume, especially Utah County, Utah
[2:40:18] Valley that's partnering with us. You're
[2:40:20] not going to find a facility that has
[2:40:23] grown like our has ours has in in
[2:40:25] intentional ways. Ways to make sure we
[2:40:29] still remain a center of this type of of
[2:40:33] not just entertainment. It's
[2:40:35] entertaining for me to go down there. I
[2:40:36] don't own any animals. But the growth of
[2:40:39] kids of of of rodeo professionals, of
[2:40:43] horse professionals, and everything
[2:40:44] that's going to go in there for anybody
[2:40:46] to say the Spanish works lost sight of
[2:40:49] that. We're all we're doing is invested
[2:40:52] continuing to invest millions and
[2:40:54] millions of dollars in growing that and
[2:40:57] uh and doing it in the right ways in the
[2:40:58] right places. So, make sure we don't
[2:41:00] meld the two of private property owners
[2:41:02] that want to do something with our
[2:41:03] ground, they can. They always have
[2:41:07] and what we do when it's our ground and
[2:41:09] especially as it fits in the agriculture
[2:41:11] industry, we're there. So, thank you.
[2:41:14] >> And I I appreciate that. I love that.
[2:41:17] It's uh uh it is unique and it's unique
[2:41:21] to Spanish Fork and Spanish Fork was the
[2:41:24] hub of livestock in the state of Utah
[2:41:27] back in the day. I mean, I even worked
[2:41:29] at the I even worked in the sales yard,
[2:41:32] you know, moving hogs around uh and
[2:41:36] other things. But it is part of our
[2:41:38] heritage and part of our tradition. And
[2:41:39] I love that this this city
[2:41:43] administration and council have have
[2:41:46] felt the need to keep that alive because
[2:41:48] it is our past and and yeah, there are a
[2:41:51] lot of kids that don't play sports that
[2:41:53] do this stuff. I mean, a lot of stuff
[2:41:56] and and a lot of life skills are learned
[2:41:58] here. Uh and so, uh we love the fact
[2:42:01] that we've had the ability to keep keep
[2:42:03] this growing and keep it alive and it's
[2:42:06] a lot of fun. I think to your point,
[2:42:08] find a fairgrounds in Utah, maybe in the
[2:42:11] world, that is located five blocks south
[2:42:14] of center in Maine,
[2:42:17] >> right? Five blocks south of center in
[2:42:20] Maine.
[2:42:21] >> It's a part of the town.
[2:42:23] >> Yeah, you won't find it. It's just so
[2:42:25] unique that a city's even involved in
[2:42:27] this. Uh, you know, when I talk to
[2:42:30] people around the country that about
[2:42:31] parks and recreation in Spanish Fork,
[2:42:34] you know, nobody has a fairgrounds.
[2:42:36] Like, what is that? That's usually run
[2:42:38] by counties or,
[2:42:40] >> you know, some other organization. So,
[2:42:42] that that is completely unique. And the
[2:42:44] amenities help, the location helps
[2:42:46] because you can come to the fairgrounds
[2:42:49] and do the events that you have, but
[2:42:51] then also take advantage of some other
[2:42:53] things. Like if you go to, you know,
[2:42:56] Elco, Nevada, and you're out there at
[2:42:57] their fairgrounds, you're kind of at the
[2:42:59] fairgrounds doing nothing for three days
[2:43:01] because it's a long drive to get to
[2:43:04] anything or or wherever that fairgrounds
[2:43:06] might be that you go here. You can go to
[2:43:08] the movies, you can go to the rec
[2:43:09] center, you can go hikon trails, you can
[2:43:11] golf all, you know, as a part of your
[2:43:14] family's trip to wherever. So, it it
[2:43:16] adds to the economic value that the
[2:43:18] county really was focused on in their
[2:43:20] partnership, making sure that this
[2:43:22] drives economic dollar.
[2:43:23] >> Well, and that's where I that's where I
[2:43:24] don't want the point lost. It's not I I
[2:43:26] get it. I I I can be a pretty big homer
[2:43:28] about our city, but the proof is in what
[2:43:32] happens here. It's the Utah State Junior
[2:43:34] Livestock Show here. It's the county
[2:43:35] Yeah, it's the county fair that's here.
[2:43:37] But these national places that'll be
[2:43:39] here now. Uh it it's it's not it's not
[2:43:43] just because, you know, we got a great
[2:43:45] logo of pride and progress. It's because
[2:43:47] we have the facility and it's because
[2:43:48] we've put the dollars into it to make it
[2:43:51] that way. So, so that's my my plea is is
[2:43:55] let's make sure we're we're living in
[2:43:57] reality when we're talking about what
[2:43:58] Spanish Fork does because when we put
[2:44:00] our money to it, it's put in things like
[2:44:02] this and and it's paid off for years and and this will too. I'm just
[2:44:07] excited to see this next this next step
[2:44:10] in this facility that's that's already
[2:44:12] awesome and it's just about to be, you
[2:44:14] know, that much better. So, good work.
[2:44:16] sticking with it.
[2:44:18] Mayor, if I may, u round the last barrel
[2:44:21] and come home on this. We in order to
[2:44:25] hit the tight time frame. Uh we talked
[2:44:29] with you a couple of months ago about
[2:44:31] ordering the steel uh for the the
[2:44:34] structure with the long lead time, but
[2:44:36] more importantly also, I think we
[2:44:38] ordered it in January. Was it in January
[2:44:41] that we ordered it? Maybe early
[2:44:42] February.
[2:44:43] >> Yeah, February.
[2:44:43] >> Um we also wanted to take advantage of a
[2:44:48] price buying it before um the price of
[2:44:52] steel went up. So, we were able to do
[2:44:55] our bids, get contracts and identify
[2:44:58] ident get bids, identify the the
[2:45:00] contractor that we want to get contracts
[2:45:01] in place and order those materials. Uh I
[2:45:04] think they came in slightly under
[2:45:05] budget. Um which is great, but that
[2:45:08] material is now here. The contractor has
[2:45:11] said that he can sit on
[2:45:14] the invoice until our next fiscal year
[2:45:18] starts, but that's $2 million and that's
[2:45:22] three months away.
[2:45:24] We plan on we're doing our budget right
[2:45:25] now. We have the full rest of the
[2:45:27] project budgeted for our budget starting
[2:45:29] in July 1, but I would propose that we
[2:45:32] not lean on the contractor's finances
[2:45:36] and have him sit on a $2 million invoice
[2:45:38] for two and a half months. But we can
[2:45:40] with a with a budget amendment that we
[2:45:43] have planned typical at the end of the
[2:45:45] year. Instead of budgeting all of the
[2:45:48] project money to start in July, we can
[2:45:50] advance some of those to right now. Pay
[2:45:52] him. We aren't spending any more. We're
[2:45:55] just spending those dollars a couple of
[2:45:56] months early um and relieve him of that
[2:45:59] burden. Hopefully that makes sense. It's
[2:46:02] not costing us anything. It's just an
[2:46:03] adjustment in how we would time uh the
[2:46:06] budget dollars be be spent. Um
[2:46:11] tonight isn't the night where you would
[2:46:12] do that. But are you comfortable if we
[2:46:14] move forward with that kind of a
[2:46:15] direction advancing those dollars a few
[2:46:18] months early and then in the end what I
[2:46:20] would have done would was present with
[2:46:23] to you a budget for the project of about
[2:46:25] $10 million in next year's budget
[2:46:27] because we've already spent some in this
[2:46:30] year's budget and I would reduce that um
[2:46:34] $2 million next year and increase it $2
[2:46:37] million this year. So I'm simply just
[2:46:39] swapping 2 million from there to here.
[2:46:42] Does that make sense? And anybody
[2:46:43] uncomfortable with that, we won't
[2:46:46] formally approve that uh action until
[2:46:49] the budget revision in June, right,
[2:46:51] Jordan? But that with that kind of head
[2:46:54] nod, we'll we'll move forward with that.
[2:46:56] And I think I don't think the the
[2:46:57] contractor didn't ask for that. I'm
[2:46:59] really grateful for their
[2:47:00] >> we we have the invoice, but
[2:47:02] >> for their willingness, but
[2:47:03] >> he said he was willing to do it. I just
[2:47:05] that's
[2:47:05] >> I just don't think that's the right
[2:47:06] approach.
[2:47:07] >> Yeah.
[2:47:07] >> Okay. Thanks.
[2:47:11] for that.
[2:47:14] Okay, we need more than a head nod to
[2:47:16] move past item C here. If there's
[2:47:20] anybody ready to to make a motion on
[2:47:21] this resolution,
[2:47:23] >> I would entertain one.
[2:47:25] >> I move to approve the resolution for the
[2:47:28] Utah County interlocal agreement
[2:47:30] addendum 4.
[2:47:32] >> Motion made by Councilman Tuk.
[2:47:35] >> Second.
[2:47:35] by Councilwoman Beck. Roll call
[2:47:38] vote here. Councilman Carden,
[2:47:39] >> yes.
[2:47:40] >> Councilman Tuk, yes.
[2:47:41] >> Councilwoman Beck, yes. And Councilman
[2:47:43] Oiler,
[2:47:44] >> yes.
[2:47:45] >> Item C is approved.
[2:47:47] >> Thank you for that discussion and
[2:47:48] presentation. Uh, let's go to D.
[2:47:50] Ordinance approving the water use and
[2:47:52] preservation element of the general
[2:47:55] plan. Good night.
[2:47:56] >> Good night.
[2:47:57] >> Now he's out.
[2:48:02] » Thank you. Um,
[2:48:07] if you can recall your minds back to
[2:48:09] December of last year, we discussed this
[2:48:12] item and held a public hearing for it um
[2:48:15] on the
[2:48:19] water use and preservation element of
[2:48:20] the general plan. Um,
[2:48:24] there are a few concerns and some public
[2:48:25] comments on it um that we've updated.
[2:48:28] We've tried to take some time to really
[2:48:30] uh help include in this document an
[2:48:34] understanding of the purpose and maybe
[2:48:37] alleviate some of the concerns that the
[2:48:39] language brought up in that. Um so we've
[2:48:41] added some in in your packet should be
[2:48:43] the redline strikeout version that is
[2:48:45] the difference from December's version
[2:48:47] to what we're reviewing today. Um maybe
[2:48:51] high level this is kind of a guide of
[2:48:52] how the city manages and uses the water
[2:48:55] in the municipal water. It's not
[2:48:57] intended to regulate or
[2:49:00] put any requirements on agricultural
[2:49:03] um and the way that water's used. Those
[2:49:05] are separate and and are not part of
[2:49:07] this. Um part of the confusion was and the language talked about temporary
[2:49:13] agriculture. Um and and I understand the
[2:49:16] concern with that. So we've we've
[2:49:18] rewarded that. Just a reminder of what
[2:49:20] that is. We have, I believe, 12
[2:49:22] pressurized irrigation services that
[2:49:25] service agricultural property within the
[2:49:28] city limits. And these are where land
[2:49:31] owners that have agriculture have
[2:49:34] requested and worked with a developer to
[2:49:36] get a pressurized irrigation connection.
[2:49:40] Um, and then the city essentially wheels
[2:49:42] or sends their water rights from the
[2:49:44] river or strawberry, wherever that's
[2:49:47] coming from, through our system to
[2:49:49] deliver it to their property.
[2:49:52] Um, and that that we have an agriculture
[2:49:55] charge for that that really just covers
[2:49:57] the on&m of the pipe, but the water
[2:49:59] purchase and everything is their water
[2:50:02] that they provide and we deliver it
[2:50:04] rather than the traditional open ditch
[2:50:06] through an irrigation company. Um this
[2:50:08] has benefited
[2:50:10] uh those land owners in agriculture that
[2:50:14] in that they can go to a pressurized
[2:50:16] system uh sprinklers in a different way
[2:50:20] than flood irrigation. Um totally up to
[2:50:23] them, but they no longer have to get up
[2:50:25] at 2 a.m. to take their irrigation turn
[2:50:28] because when the system's pressurized,
[2:50:31] they can turn on and water when it works
[2:50:34] for them. So we see this as a benefit.
[2:50:37] One of the reasons it's included in here
[2:50:39] is we're outlining ways that the city is
[2:50:42] trying to conserve water. Um that
[2:50:45] ability for a landowner to choose to do
[2:50:48] that can save a significant amount for
[2:50:50] that agricultural property as well as
[2:50:53] the general area. So we see that as a
[2:50:55] benefit and that was highlighted. We've
[2:50:57] changed the language to be agriculture
[2:51:00] connections. Um, so just identifying
[2:51:03] those properties in town that are
[2:51:04] connected to our pressurized irrigation
[2:51:07] using water for agriculture purposes.
[2:51:11] The numbers that you see in this um, as
[2:51:14] far as water use do not include those
[2:51:16] because again it's it's their water
[2:51:19] being delivered through our system, not
[2:51:21] city water going on grass or other
[2:51:23] things. Um, so that's that's maybe a
[2:51:25] high level a lot of the changes in
[2:51:27] there. Um, I think it also provides
[2:51:30] flexibility for those land owners and
[2:51:33] they can stretch their water further.
[2:51:35] Um, it's a win-win in that case. Other
[2:51:37] items didn't really change a lot from
[2:51:39] what we looked at before, but again, the
[2:51:41] intent of the document is how are we
[2:51:43] managing water and as we look at land
[2:51:44] use as the city council, um, planning
[2:51:47] commission, our planners look at land
[2:51:51] use and general plan issues and other
[2:51:53] zoning things. This document's intended
[2:51:56] to say we need to include and we want to
[2:52:00] include water use in our town and
[2:52:02] conservation as part of those decisions.
[2:52:05] And there's some ideas and it outlines
[2:52:07] what our code um already has in it
[2:52:10] approved that we are already
[2:52:12] implementing. So that that's kind of the
[2:52:14] background and update. Um
[2:52:18] any questions or anything I missed that
[2:52:20] as you've looked at that?
[2:52:23] Any thoughts, Corey, with I know it's
[2:52:26] important. Is this is this part of what
[2:52:28] the state's requiring with the city's
[2:52:30] water plan?
[2:52:32] >> Yes. Every city's required to have this
[2:52:35] be a part of their general plan element
[2:52:38] >> and and this is outlining meeting the
[2:52:40] requirements of that legislation. I
[2:52:42] recognize the importance that we discuss
[2:52:44] and talk about conservation, but is
[2:52:47] there any thought or concern
[2:52:51] as we write up a document that maybe
[2:52:54] would push push a farmer or somebody to
[2:52:57] move towards drip irrigation rather than flood irrigation? Is there any
[2:53:02] concern about groundwater?
[2:53:04] Because yeah, you're going to have less
[2:53:06] water now that that recharges the
[2:53:09] groundwater that is part of the recharge
[2:53:11] or or that flows further downstream that
[2:53:14] others might might need that water for.
[2:53:16] Is there any concerns?
[2:53:17] >> It certainly could have an impact on
[2:53:19] groundwater. Yes. Um and I would maybe
[2:53:22] rephrase, we're not pushing, I would say
[2:53:24] we're facilitating. Um we're allowing
[2:53:27] this as a measure to to be flexible for
[2:53:30] a developer. Um, obviously they're
[2:53:33] interested in not piping a ditch
[2:53:36] um and investing that money differently.
[2:53:39] Um, so this isn't something that the
[2:53:41] city
[2:53:43] uh goes out and pursues or even
[2:53:46] necessarily recommends. It's when a
[2:53:48] developer is talking with their
[2:53:50] neighbor, their irrigating neighbor, and
[2:53:53] says, "Hey, I I'd rather invest my
[2:53:56] 500,000 rather than pipe this ditch. Um,
[2:54:00] boy, can I install a service? can I pay
[2:54:02] for this? And the city's willing to work
[2:54:04] with you to deliver your water in a
[2:54:06] different way.
[2:54:07] >> And then it's up to the developer and
[2:54:09] the the property owner to decide whether
[2:54:11] they want to do that or not.
[2:54:13] >> And it's it's not outlined in here, but
[2:54:14] we do have a procedure that that's
[2:54:16] through and there's formal agreements.
[2:54:18] Um and again, it it's all
[2:54:21] >> it's all open to choice. Yeah, I think
[2:54:23] it's extremely important to highlight
[2:54:25] this policy, sorry, this land use
[2:54:27] element of the general plan, this water
[2:54:30] conservation element of the general plan
[2:54:32] is not directed at farming at all. This
[2:54:36] is directed at water that flows through
[2:54:37] our pipes. That's it. So any any mention
[2:54:42] of farming in in this plan is actually
[2:54:45] because we offer something that is
[2:54:47] extremely unique. Uh I don't know that
[2:54:50] many cities uh offer this kind of
[2:54:53] service that um allows a farmer to use
[2:54:57] the PI system like we do. It's extremely
[2:55:00] unique. U so there's no force and there
[2:55:03] is no direction. This has no bearing on
[2:55:08] irrigation water, ditch use, anything
[2:55:10] like that. This is about water that
[2:55:12] flows through our pipes. And so it it it
[2:55:15] only works in certain certain
[2:55:17] circumstances where
[2:55:20] the farmer, the irrigation company, the
[2:55:22] developer, and the city are aligned that
[2:55:24] it can work. We have seen in recent
[2:55:27] years um and I think this charts some of
[2:55:30] those. We've seen in recent years growth
[2:55:32] in farmers that are wanting to use this
[2:55:34] aspect of what we do because it saves
[2:55:37] them costs and it increases uh in
[2:55:41] general it increases the water that they
[2:55:43] can use. Um in terms of groundwater use
[2:55:47] I think absolutely there could be less
[2:55:49] water that goes into the ground after
[2:55:51] that but that won't be any different
[2:55:53] than what happens when that farm field
[2:55:56] turns into houses. Right. And
[2:55:58] >> have we had have we had any fields
[2:56:02] within city limits up to this point that
[2:56:04] have converted to the PI system?
[2:56:06] >> Oh yeah, a dozen.
[2:56:07] >> 12. About a dozen.
[2:56:08] >> 12.
[2:56:09] >> We've got 12 PI.
[2:56:10] >> I thought you said there were 12 that
[2:56:12] were available that could, but you're
[2:56:13] saying we've got 12 that actually have.
[2:56:16] >> Yes. So historically one you'd notice um
[2:56:20] it's now it's now turned into houses but
[2:56:22] on 1400 East on either side of 1400 East
[2:56:25] those the Jerry Jay Lee Butler field
[2:56:27] that was on the system that was probably
[2:56:29] one of the first
[2:56:30] >> okay
[2:56:30] >> Fred Vinc
[2:56:31] >> Fred Vincent's farm on 2300 East that's
[2:56:33] on this system
[2:56:34] >> that was on it
[2:56:34] >> in Spanish Fork in the city's limits if
[2:56:37] you see sprinkler pipes if you see wheel
[2:56:39] lines chances are it's on this system
[2:56:41] >> yeah okay
[2:56:43] >> I should know you know we we have to
[2:56:45] analyze our system can we provide the
[2:56:46] water they're going to need. Can we
[2:56:48] physically get it to them in the
[2:56:49] quantity they need? And so it it takes a
[2:56:52] little bit effort from all to say here's
[2:56:54] how it would work and and our our
[2:56:56] facilities can handle it or not.
[2:56:58] >> How does how does that work between what
[2:57:01] they're allotted to use through flood
[2:57:04] irrigation and then what they're
[2:57:05] actually using now through our metered system. So
[2:57:12] they would make a request for an amount
[2:57:14] of water and they would write and direct
[2:57:17] essentially through the irrigation
[2:57:18] company to direct the river commissioner
[2:57:21] to allow that water to come into Spanish
[2:57:23] Fork City system. We would pump it to
[2:57:26] the reservoir and then deliver it
[2:57:28] through the pipes. So there's a process
[2:57:30] and a notification on that. Um, we have
[2:57:34] found a little bit when it's always
[2:57:35] available and not this two hour time
[2:57:38] frame every three weeks or whatever it
[2:57:41] may be that we meter and we know what
[2:57:44] their water right is. And if they go
[2:57:46] beyond that, then they're going to pay
[2:57:48] city pressurized irrigation rates for
[2:57:50] using city purchase water.
[2:57:51] >> Okay. We watch that closely and they
[2:57:53] work with the irrigation company to say,
[2:57:55] "Hey, can you deliver a little more
[2:57:57] water to Spanish Forks intake system so
[2:58:00] we can get it to our um this has got
[2:58:04] even I've found actually more recently
[2:58:07] it's been the irrigation companies
[2:58:09] looking at um especially on the east
[2:58:12] bench miles of pipe that they have to
[2:58:15] maintain for that last few customers or
[2:58:18] that last customer." And I've had uh
[2:58:20] irrigation company representatives come
[2:58:22] in and say, "Hey, I want to talk to our
[2:58:24] last user out on the end about
[2:58:26] converting and tying into that. Are you
[2:58:28] okay with that?" And so the irrigation
[2:58:30] company sees it as a benefit where
[2:58:32] they're maintaining miles of pipe for
[2:58:35] >> Yeah. for one user
[2:58:36] >> that one user and the losses that come
[2:58:38] with that through the pipe or different
[2:58:40] things. They're they're seeing the
[2:58:42] benefit and and approaching it.
[2:58:44] I would say some of the proactive effort
[2:58:47] in in making this happen is probably
[2:58:48] coming from the irrigation companies
[2:58:51] seeing the benefit to their system and
[2:58:53] their maintenance needs as well.
[2:58:55] >> You heard from many of the farmers that
[2:58:58] have converted that
[2:59:00] they're getting better production
[2:59:02] because they're able to rather than
[2:59:04] flood the whole thing, they're targeting their crops.
[2:59:08] >> I haven't heard that. I I haven't asked
[2:59:10] though. But they're still maximizing and
[2:59:13] using whatever whatever they were using
[2:59:14] with flood irrigation. They're still
[2:59:16] using their amount that they need for
[2:59:18] drip irrigate or for uh
[2:59:20] >> we we've seen some uh that we've had to
[2:59:23] say, "Hey, you're getting close to your
[2:59:25] >> what you were using
[2:59:25] >> water right.
[2:59:27] >> Okay.
[2:59:27] >> We don't touch their water rights in
[2:59:29] terms of it's their water right.
[2:59:31] >> Yeah. If they had a certain amount with
[2:59:32] drip flood, it still gets delivered, but
[2:59:35] now it's through our system. the
[2:59:37] irrigation company might decrease their
[2:59:39] aotment because there is some that's uh
[2:59:43] allocate some water is allocated for uh
[2:59:46] evaporation or okay
[2:59:48] >> or loss through the delivery system. So
[2:59:49] that's between the farmer and the and
[2:59:52] the irrigation company but we aren't we don't do anything
[2:59:55] >> regardless if they're on our system or
[2:59:57] not. You get a call from the water
[2:59:58] >> man. We're not involved in that. We
[3:00:00] simply are conveying and so again
[3:00:04] >> this is not about farming water. This is
[3:00:06] not about a water. This this this is
[3:00:08] about all of the other things that
[3:00:10] happen with the water that is used
[3:00:13] through our pipes. So to focus on that
[3:00:15] element, I think is missing the mark. Um
[3:00:19] this is focused on how our water is
[3:00:21] used. It if a farmer chooses to use this
[3:00:24] system, they will likely save water,
[3:00:27] which is good, right? Statewide, we need
[3:00:30] to save water everywhere. Yeah. It
[3:00:32] allows them to put water closer to where
[3:00:34] they need it rather than um you know
[3:00:36] through less less efficient means. But
[3:00:39] that happens if it happens. This is
[3:00:42] about directing development and and how
[3:00:46] water uses how how you and I use water
[3:00:49] in in the developed parts of town.
[3:00:51] >> Do we have an idea as to how many within
[3:00:54] city limits are still using flood
[3:00:56] irrigation and could could be converted?
[3:00:59] I don't we haven't looked at that
[3:01:01] necessarily. It typically is a
[3:01:03] conversation that happens when
[3:01:04] development gets closer.
[3:01:05] >> And I would I probably I would not
[3:01:07] recommend we go out and
[3:01:09] >> right
[3:01:09] >> do that like
[3:01:11] >> it's curious what what we're looking at,
[3:01:14] >> you know, and maybe on the side of the
[3:01:16] city water use um there's a chart on
[3:01:20] page two. It's interesting to me on the
[3:01:22] drinking water side,
[3:01:24] uh, between 2019 and 2024, it's a
[3:01:27] relatively flat Yeah.
[3:01:29] >> water use.
[3:01:30] >> And if you think of the growth even in
[3:01:32] that fiveyear period, um, we've had a
[3:01:35] lot of growth, but these conservation
[3:01:37] measures and different things seem to be
[3:01:39] working. Pressurized irrigation is more
[3:01:43] difficult because a hot year, drier
[3:01:45] year, it's hard to tell. You can't tie
[3:01:48] that exactly to the number of sprinkler
[3:01:50] systems connected to it, but you can see
[3:01:53] that eb and flow a little bit, but
[3:01:55] really it's kind of held on an average
[3:01:57] as well. So the plan and the efforts
[3:02:00] done are working and I think we're using
[3:02:02] less water as a city. So,
[3:02:08] >> I'll sound a little a little broken
[3:02:11] record type talking about this, too,
[3:02:13] because I I talk about it uh sometimes,
[3:02:17] but
[3:02:18] if if if there's uh what some
[3:02:26] cause or or or a reason that we have to
[3:02:29] be uh proud of what we've done in
[3:02:34] Spanish Fork, our water use and the
[3:02:36] preservation
[3:02:38] of it and the general plan piece of it
[3:02:40] should be a huge part of what we what we
[3:02:43] should be proud of because it's although
[3:02:46] we're refining it and making it better
[3:02:48] because we're always improving um I'd go
[3:02:51] back to to to your dad. I'd go back to
[3:02:55] some people that made great decisions 25
[3:02:58] 30 years ago that now the state requires
[3:03:01] cities to do and we did it decades
[3:03:04] before before other places. So I love I
[3:03:08] love that we we keep having an eye
[3:03:10] towards the future and and don't rest on
[3:03:12] our laurels about success. But
[3:03:14] >> our our water use element of our general
[3:03:17] plan, it's a big success. And so thank
[3:03:21] you for continuing to improve it and
[3:03:23] modernize it. But it is a successful
[3:03:27] part of Spanish Fork and held up to
[3:03:28] other cities as an example. Not not not
[3:03:31] just for the city sake, but how you work
[3:03:33] with
[3:03:34] um this is coming from the son of the
[3:03:37] former river commissioner, how you work
[3:03:39] with the river, how you work with the irrigation companies and everybody
[3:03:44] that's involved in what a precious
[3:03:47] resource it is. We've got a good track
[3:03:50] record and uh continuing that I know is
[3:03:53] important to you, Corey, and your
[3:03:54] department and you're doing a great job
[3:03:56] continuing it. So, thank you.
[3:03:57] >> Thank you.
[3:04:01] » Any other questions for Corey on this
[3:04:05] item?
[3:04:08] If there's none uh for item D, I'd
[3:04:11] entertain a motion to approve the
[3:04:14] ordinance
[3:04:16] uh of the water use and preservation
[3:04:18] element of the general plan.
[3:04:19] >> A move to approve the ordinance of the
[3:04:21] water use and preservation element of
[3:04:23] the general plan.
[3:04:25] >> Motion made by Councilman Oiler.
[3:04:28] >> Second.
[3:04:28] by Councilman Tuk. A roll call
[3:04:31] vote here. Councilman Tuk. Yes.
[3:04:32] >> Councilman Carden. Yes.
[3:04:33] >> Councilman Oiler. Yes.
[3:04:34] >> And Councilwoman Beck.
[3:04:36] >> Yes.
[3:04:37] Item D is approved. Takes us to E, a
[3:04:39] federal consulting contract. Barker
[3:04:42] Levit.
[3:04:44] Is that the name of a person or the name
[3:04:46] of the company? I can't remember.
[3:04:48] >> Person.
[3:04:48] >> Yeah, person.
[3:04:49] >> That is the person
[3:04:52] >> and
[3:04:54] company.
[3:04:55] >> Yeah, it's both. Yeah.
[3:04:58] >> I'll do it.
[3:04:59] >> Yeah.
[3:04:59] >> Sorry. Uh, took me just a minute there.
[3:05:02] If I would have had another taxi way at
[3:05:04] the airport, I probably could have been
[3:05:05] here faster.
[3:05:07] Um, anyway, that's just a little leadin
[3:05:09] to what I want to talk about right now.
[3:05:11] Uh, so earlier, Councilman Carden
[3:05:14] mentioned that uh when we had the
[3:05:16] opportunity to go out to the National
[3:05:17] League of Cities. Um, we had a uh while
[3:05:20] we were out there, we had an opportunity
[3:05:22] to to uh to meet with Barker and Levit
[3:05:24] and uh get a little bit better
[3:05:26] understanding of what services they
[3:05:28] provide. Um, we have, uh, I think
[3:05:33] everyone on this council has been on the
[3:05:35] council since we really tried to make a
[3:05:37] hard run at, uh, at federal funds to
[3:05:40] fund, um, to fund a renovation of of the
[3:05:45] Thurber building. Um, also for some
[3:05:48] funds for the airport and some other
[3:05:51] needs that we have.
[3:05:53] We don't foresee the needs for
[3:05:55] infrastructure going away anytime soon.
[3:05:57] I mean, as all of you are aware and and
[3:06:00] have shared um your thoughts about that
[3:06:02] in in different meetings. So,
[3:06:06] the funding that comes from the federal
[3:06:07] government, it's very competitive. Um
[3:06:09] and a lot of times the applications are
[3:06:12] complex and so hiring a consultant uh at
[3:06:15] the federal level to help us with
[3:06:16] federal affairs would be uh very
[3:06:18] beneficial to the city in in helping us
[3:06:21] to uh um we feel like we would get an
[3:06:24] incredible return on uh on the
[3:06:26] investment there. So that's the purpose
[3:06:28] of this contract is to be able to enlist
[3:06:30] the services of uh Barker and Levit and uh use their expertise to help us um
[3:06:36] obtain that federal funding. But any
[3:06:38] questions
[3:06:40] on this?
[3:06:41] >> If we can get the funding, it'll be
[3:06:42] worth their weight,
[3:06:43] >> right?
[3:06:46] >> Yeah, it's true.
[3:06:47] >> In the cash we pay
[3:06:48] >> gold or cash or whatever.
[3:06:51] >> Pave it in asphalt, not gold. It's going
[3:06:53] to be built in asphalt.
[3:06:56] >> Yeah. No questions, Tyler. But I was
[3:06:57] incredibly impressed with the
[3:06:58] interactions, meeting them and in the
[3:07:00] group and their team and just um what
[3:07:02] they can do for us and knowing what we
[3:07:04] need and then and more than that really
[3:07:06] them being willing to help us beyond
[3:07:10] have. And so I really I was really
[3:07:12] excited by all all this. That's yeah, I
[3:07:16] think that's a good thing that you
[3:07:16] pointed out, uh, Councilman Tuk, is
[3:07:19] they're they've expressed an interest in meeting with, uh, all of the
[3:07:24] directors to talk about what projects do
[3:07:27] you see coming in the future that we can
[3:07:29] help try to obtain funding for. So,
[3:07:31] yeah, appreciate you sharing that.
[3:07:35] >> Good work. I think a good uh a good step
[3:07:37] for for our city. And
[3:07:40] >> yeah, and I think it's important to note
[3:07:42] this is a ratification. Did you say
[3:07:43] that? I didn't know this is a
[3:07:45] ratification. Uh
[3:07:47] >> click on it is there is a signature on
[3:07:49] it. So the request is to ratify this
[3:07:52] contract that has been signed
[3:07:54] >> uh to be able to get them on on the case
[3:07:57] and try to be in the federal funding
[3:07:59] cycle that we need this to be in.
[3:08:00] >> I think it's important to note for the
[3:08:03] last few years, as Tyler suggested,
[3:08:05] we've tried really hard. we've worked
[3:08:07] hard and we've been
[3:08:11] decently successful at it
[3:08:14] >> and then it seems like at the at
[3:08:17] somewhere in the process the carpet gets
[3:08:20] pulled out from underneath us and so um
[3:08:25] having somebody that's more in tune with
[3:08:28] the processes and and understanding of
[3:08:31] how to ensure it I think will enable us
[3:08:36] sharpen our presentations
[3:08:38] and
[3:08:40] get it across the finish line, which is
[3:08:42] just so hard. And and we've got it I
[3:08:45] think we've got at least six projects in
[3:08:47] mind at this point that we can work on
[3:08:49] over the next few years and and I think
[3:08:52] there will be more that will come as we
[3:08:53] talk about it. So, for sure.
[3:08:55] >> Thanks.
[3:08:58] » Very good. Thanks for the leg work on
[3:08:59] this one, too. And uh and uh I agree I
[3:09:02] agree with what's been said. impressive
[3:09:04] uh people, impressive team that we we
[3:09:06] expect them to do some good work for us.
[3:09:09] I'd entertain a motion to ratify item E.
[3:09:12] >> I move to ratify the contract with
[3:09:16] Barker and Levit for federal consulting
[3:09:19] contract.
[3:09:20] >> Motion made by Councilman Carden.
[3:09:22] >> Second.
[3:09:23] >> Seconded by Councilman Tuk. A roll call
[3:09:25] vote here. Councilwoman Beck. Yes.
[3:09:27] >> Councilman Oiler.
[3:09:29] >> Yes.
[3:09:29] >> Councilman Carden.
[3:09:30] >> Yes.
[3:09:30] >> And Councilman Tuk.
[3:09:31] >> Yes. Item E is approved takes us to our
[3:09:34] discussion item tonight. Just one item
[3:09:36] on there before closed meeting after
[3:09:38] that. Planning commission's
[3:09:39] recommendation on the proposed land use
[3:09:41] element and growth boundary amendment.
[3:09:44] Mr. David G. Anderson.
[3:09:48] Let's pull the plug and go over to the
[3:09:50] website. Let's go there.
[3:09:52] >> Perfect.
[3:09:52] >> So, Mr. Mayor, thank you.
[3:09:55] Trumpets and fanfare would absolutely be
[3:09:58] appropriate tonight if we had them. Is
[3:10:01] that where baseball starts?
[3:10:03] >> Finally. Well,
[3:10:04] >> yes. First pitch is tomorrow.
[3:10:06] >> Several reasons, right? Yeah.
[3:10:09] >> Yankees go for 28.
[3:10:12] >> The road starts tomorrow, right?
[3:10:13] >> Eliminated.
[3:10:14] >> Exactly.
[3:10:15] >> So,
[3:10:17] it's been a while,
[3:10:19] but in February, the planning commission
[3:10:22] held a public hearing on the draft land
[3:10:27] use element of the general plan.
[3:10:29] There's a little bit of a caboose with
[3:10:31] that. That is an amendment to our growth
[3:10:34] management boundary.
[3:10:37] They held a public hearing on that as
[3:10:40] well. And then a few weeks ago, they
[3:10:43] recommended that both the draft land use
[3:10:45] element and the modified growth
[3:10:49] management boundary be approved.
[3:10:53] So that fulfills the role that the
[3:10:56] planning commission according to state
[3:10:58] law plays in preparing a general plan.
[3:11:02] And I'm here tonight just to kind of
[3:11:05] symbolically make the handoff to the
[3:11:07] city council. Um
[3:11:11] yeah, Jack, will you help me kind of
[3:11:12] walk through this? So this is the city's
[3:11:15] website. This is the community
[3:11:16] development web page from here.
[3:11:21] Um, and I'm going to give just everybody
[3:11:24] that's maybe watching at home a quick
[3:11:25] second to catch up.
[3:11:28] So, community development web page, the
[3:11:30] city's website. If you go to the
[3:11:32] planning web page, then
[3:11:35] you'll get taken to another prompt
[3:11:37] there, land use element right there. So,
[3:11:39] anybody that wants to see what I'm
[3:11:41] talking about tonight can go to this
[3:11:43] page and there is a big red thing on
[3:11:45] this page that you can see there.
[3:11:51] We started to identify different
[3:11:53] versions of this. When I say different,
[3:11:56] I mean just from one more current
[3:12:01] version to the next a few months ago.
[3:12:04] Started to track that. So at the bottom
[3:12:06] of that page, you can see the last five
[3:12:08] that we've done, which is
[3:12:10] um embarrassingly a fraction of all of
[3:12:12] them that we've put together. Uh today's
[3:12:16] the 24th of March, 2026.
[3:12:19] So that's the version that's current.
[3:12:21] That's what people can get to most
[3:12:23] easily from that web page. And we're
[3:12:26] still in the mode of inviting people to
[3:12:29] get familiar with the document. Frankly,
[3:12:31] if anybody has questions about this
[3:12:32] document at this point, it's best just
[3:12:34] to call us in the community development
[3:12:35] office. Uh we have several people there
[3:12:38] that'd be happy to sit down, answer any
[3:12:40] questions. Um, and along those lines,
[3:12:44] uh, I appreciate the mayor and council
[3:12:47] member Carden taking some time a couple
[3:12:48] of weeks ago to kind of talked through
[3:12:50] maybe, uh, the best process to go
[3:12:54] through in terms of maybe like some
[3:12:57] final steps in advance of getting this u
[3:13:01] project ready for the council to u
[3:13:05] adopt.
[3:13:07] And I don't mean to speak for either of
[3:13:10] you. So I'm going to share my kind of
[3:13:11] perspective on that discussion. I think
[3:13:14] uh we saw some value in providing the
[3:13:16] public with one last opportunity to get
[3:13:18] informed. Um you maybe outside of coming
[3:13:21] to this forum in a council meeting. So
[3:13:23] we will be holding an open house
[3:13:27] next Monday.
[3:13:29] That's the 30th of March from 6 o'clock
[3:13:32] to 8 o'clock right next door in the
[3:13:34] Heritage Room. There'll be several of us
[3:13:37] as community development staff there. I
[3:13:39] welcome anybody else that wants to come
[3:13:41] to be there. The purpose of that is for
[3:13:45] us to answer questions. Um
[3:13:49] the plan that I'm looking for some
[3:13:54] uh actually I want you to tell us it's what you want us to do, but if you
[3:13:57] don't, please tell us that as well. We
[3:14:00] anticipate then also providing notices
[3:14:03] uh later this week to hold a public
[3:14:05] hearing on this with the city council on
[3:14:08] the 7th of April. So if anybody has
[3:14:10] reservations about that, please tell us
[3:14:12] tonight. Um frankly um I think it would
[3:14:16] be entirely appropriate and maybe
[3:14:18] looking ahead, but you know once the
[3:14:20] council holds that public hearing, you
[3:14:22] could act on the general plan whenever
[3:14:24] you would like. Um,
[3:14:30] that being the case,
[3:14:32] there's some heft and some weight and I
[3:14:34] do expect there to be some comments and
[3:14:36] maybe some discussion. Um, that evening
[3:14:39] on the 7th, you might want to take some
[3:14:41] time to
[3:14:43] maybe deliberate internally, just think
[3:14:47] things through. uh maybe there'd be
[3:14:49] questions that you'd want to pose for us
[3:14:50] offline as staff or something like that
[3:14:52] before you'd feel comfortable acting on
[3:14:55] the document and you could do that at
[3:14:57] any point in time after you hold a
[3:14:59] public hearing. Um but um do you have
[3:15:03] any concerns with us following that path
[3:15:05] and prepping for that next step?
[3:15:10] >> Sounds good. No, I just want to thank
[3:15:12] staff, especially our community
[3:15:13] development team for holding one more
[3:15:16] opportunity for folks to come in and ask
[3:15:18] questions. Um, we are doing something a
[3:15:20] little bit unique with the growth
[3:15:21] boundary and I think it's important that
[3:15:22] people just understand that. But also
[3:15:24] the general plan has been this is what
[3:15:26] two two and a half years in in action
[3:15:30] >> and so there's a lot of things that have
[3:15:31] happened. So, I think it's a good
[3:15:32] opportunity to come in and ask the
[3:15:33] questions in a maybe a what we've been
[3:15:36] told is a maybe a threatening. It's it
[3:15:38] feels a little intimidating to come up
[3:15:39] to the podium to to speak and so this is
[3:15:42] a good opportunity to come ask those
[3:15:43] questions in a way that maybe helps you
[3:15:45] to get those questions answered easier.
[3:15:49] >> Thank you. Yeah, I think that's a great
[3:15:51] way to describe it. Um, I just want to
[3:15:54] mention one thing that, um, I'd probably
[3:15:58] want to discuss with the council maybe
[3:15:59] after the public hearing on the 7th.
[3:16:01] There is an inconsistency that I'd like
[3:16:04] to discuss in terms of, um, I call it a
[3:16:07] lot of times the Clyde annexation, the
[3:16:09] 1050 West annexation. They presented in
[3:16:11] a council meeting a couple of months ago
[3:16:14] with, frankly, what I I thought was a
[3:16:16] pretty good first run at a concept plan
[3:16:19] for a residential development. um on the
[3:16:22] west side of I-15 just north of 400
[3:16:24] North. Um there is
[3:16:28] policy language in the draft that
[3:16:32] conflicts with the idea of moving
[3:16:34] forward with that annexation.
[3:16:36] And I've had some pretty candid
[3:16:38] conversations with the gentleman that
[3:16:39] has represented Clyde on that, the one
[3:16:41] that came to the the work session that
[3:16:43] we had about that proposal,
[3:16:45] like I said, several weeks ago now. Um,
[3:16:48] but aside from that, I I really
[3:16:52] appreciate the effort that the planning
[3:16:53] commission has put into the document. A
[3:16:56] lot of things have been ironed out. And,
[3:17:00] you know, maybe my my last thought is um
[3:17:04] to share what the planning commission
[3:17:06] chairman Todd Mitchell said. So, we were
[3:17:09] talking about this a couple of months
[3:17:10] ago, you know, kind of winding down. He
[3:17:12] reminded everybody that hey
[3:17:15] this is a living document.
[3:17:18] That was his phrase. I would use the
[3:17:20] same one. Um he was making the point
[3:17:23] that uh at some point in time it's
[3:17:26] entirely appropriate to move forward
[3:17:28] with the idea that we're acting with the
[3:17:30] best information that we have today.
[3:17:32] understanding that our crystal ball is
[3:17:34] only so clear and that it will be
[3:17:37] entirely appropriate and likely
[3:17:41] important to make adjustments and
[3:17:43] changes down the road. Um, oftentimes
[3:17:48] prior to us starting this project when
[3:17:51] I've heard people in recent years and
[3:17:53] maybe criticize the general plan that's
[3:17:55] in place now because it had been quite a
[3:17:57] while since we last really updated that.
[3:18:00] I had to kind of hold back a little bit
[3:18:03] because I know how many times that that
[3:18:05] was updated over the years too, you
[3:18:07] know, and and I think that's that's
[3:18:09] really how
[3:18:12] advisory documents like this become the
[3:18:15] most effective and most useful um is if
[3:18:18] you you allow them to be pliable and to
[3:18:22] work over time. So, that's really all
[3:18:25] that I have tonight, but I'd be happy to
[3:18:26] answer any questions that anybody has.
[3:18:30] Um and certainly if there's anything
[3:18:32] that you want to bring up offline, have
[3:18:34] any questions you about um this
[3:18:36] particular latest version which
[3:18:38] incidentally
[3:18:40] has not changed in any dramatic form
[3:18:42] from what you've seen before. Um we're
[3:18:46] happy to have whatever discussions you'd
[3:18:48] like to have. So
[3:18:51] >> thank you Dave.
[3:18:54] >> Thank you.
[3:18:54] >> Any questions for Dave?
[3:18:56] My my quick comment to that is is I
[3:18:59] appreciate Commissioner Mitchell talking
[3:19:01] about a living document with it and uh
[3:19:04] and that I think we have had a lot of
[3:19:08] discussions about this um and and that
[3:19:13] to continue to maybe uh have too many
[3:19:17] more. Not not to say that people don't
[3:19:18] have the right to come and petition to
[3:19:20] amend the general plan.
[3:19:22] >> Property owners can do that. people can
[3:19:24] do that and it's happened. It's happened
[3:19:27] probably 12 times in the 12 years I've
[3:19:29] been here. But but it happens. So they
[3:19:32] certainly have that right uh to to to
[3:19:34] come in the future and do that. Um
[3:19:38] but I I' I guess I'd caution us not to
[3:19:41] have uh perfect be the enemy of good
[3:19:43] either. This is a really good document.
[3:19:45] a lot of work, a lot of input. And uh
[3:19:49] and I I think uh I think one more
[3:19:51] meeting to talk about, you know, pe
[3:19:54] maybe some people that don't want to
[3:19:55] come here in a public setting. Perfect.
[3:19:58] Let's talk about it and uh and then
[3:20:00] let's take the next steps of of getting
[3:20:02] this clear for for for us and for land
[3:20:05] owners and and everybody in the
[3:20:06] >> Let's take the next step.
[3:20:08] >> Yeah. Yeah. I agree. So, thank you,
[3:20:10] Dave. it's not lost on us, your your
[3:20:12] department and the work you've done and
[3:20:15] um and a lot of people in in different
[3:20:17] departments to get to this point. So,
[3:20:19] thank you.
[3:20:20] >> Thank you. And I'm afraid maybe I didn't
[3:20:22] uh express my gratitude to the planning
[3:20:24] commission for what they've done. If I
[3:20:26] didn't do that, please let me do that as
[3:20:28] I walk off now, but they put a lot of
[3:20:30] time and effort into this.
[3:20:32] >> Um it's certainly appreciated. So,
[3:20:35] >> thanks.
[3:20:36] >> Thank you.
[3:20:36] >> Thanks, Dave. The mayor does the
[3:20:38] appointments for the planning
[3:20:40] commission. So, I'm going to take credit
[3:20:41] for appointing good planning
[3:20:42] commissioners. That's how a politician
[3:20:44] does it, Dave. You got to learn how to
[3:20:46] >> I think the previous mayor put most of
[3:20:47] them on there, though, right?
[3:20:49] >> It's true. Some of them are carryovers,
[3:20:51] but I'm just kidding.
[3:20:53] >> Got some got some in there.
[3:20:54] >> Maybe it's 50.
[3:20:55] >> Maybe we need to change all the 5050 at
[3:20:57] this point.
[3:20:57] >> No, I'd echo that. Good work, planning
[3:20:59] commissioners. Thank you. Thank you for
[3:21:01] the good good work and the studying and
[3:21:03] uh talking to people and going places.
[3:21:05] they've uh they have been rock stars on
[3:21:07] this and um and we thank them for their
[3:21:10] time.
[3:21:11] >> Mayor, just real quick while we're on
[3:21:13] this topic, just wanted to note that
[3:21:17] Councilman Marshall's not here tonight,
[3:21:18] but he did send us all an email,
[3:21:21] including some staff with some some
[3:21:24] comments and questions and and
[3:21:25] suggestions uh directed towards staff
[3:21:28] for the land use element draft review.
[3:21:32] So, just wanted to note that he's he's
[3:21:34] submitted that which I'm sure staff will
[3:21:36] take the time to review. So,
[3:21:39] >> he is engaged even though he's not
[3:21:42] present this evening. That Thanks.
[3:21:45] for mentioning that.
[3:21:48] >> Okay. Um if there's no uh other business
[3:21:50] uh on that front, um I the next item is
[3:21:54] to adjourn to close meeting.
[3:21:55] >> Can I ask one quick question? Um, with
[3:21:58] the heat recently, PI, have we thought
[3:22:01] of possibly opening up the pressurized
[3:22:04] irrigation prior to April 15th? I had
[3:22:07] >> They're filling it right now.
[3:22:09] >> Okay, perfect. I'll get back to this
[3:22:11] >> res. It's It's difficult because it
[3:22:13] takes time to fill
[3:22:16] and we typically don't say, "Hey, we're
[3:22:19] filling it." Because everyone goes out
[3:22:20] and turns on their sprinkler system,
[3:22:22] >> right? And we don't want them to.
[3:22:23] >> Um, and now it takes longer to fill and
[3:22:25] get to pressure to where it can be used.
[3:22:26] So right now, while you may open your
[3:22:29] tap and see water, it's not at pressure.
[3:22:32] >> We would ask let's wait till
[3:22:34] >> I've been sprinkling for
[3:22:35] >> I saw several people using their
[3:22:37] culinary water out watering, you know,
[3:22:39] their dried dead shrubbery or trees. So
[3:22:43] >> So some some of that as well as I've
[3:22:47] learned
[3:22:48] if offers a four-step
[3:22:51] uh program to fertilize your yard. Step
[3:22:54] one is supposed to have already been
[3:22:57] done by now before the soil gets too
[3:22:59] warm. One of the requirements with step
[3:23:01] one is that it has to get wet to
[3:23:03] activate. And with not having any rain,
[3:23:06] if somebody's gone and fertilized and
[3:23:08] put step one in, they have to use their
[3:23:11] culinary to actually get it to do
[3:23:13] anything. Otherwise, they're going to
[3:23:15] burn up their yard. So, if you see your
[3:23:17] next door neighbor with his holes out
[3:23:20] watering his yarn yard, don't make any
[3:23:23] assumptions that he's just
[3:23:25] >> wasting water, right? There there's
[3:23:27] probably a reason behind it.
[3:23:29] >> Okay. Thanks, Corey.
[3:23:30] >> Yeah, it's coming soon though. They're
[3:23:32] working on it.
[3:23:33] >> That's a good point. Good point.
[3:23:34] >> But it's also not good water
[3:23:36] conservation to start too early. So,
[3:23:38] >> correct.
[3:23:39] >> That just we are so dry.
[3:23:42] >> Yeah. Really, our goal is to use the
[3:23:45] river water when we can in the spring,
[3:23:47] right before we tap into reservoir
[3:23:50] water. And this year, 33% of normal is
[3:23:54] the plan for the river. So, it it's
[3:23:57] >> the runoff.
[3:23:58] >> We're not getting a lot of help. You're
[3:23:59] not even going to notice it.
[3:24:00] >> It's crazy. The runoff's happening. And
[3:24:02] if you looked at the river today, you
[3:24:04] wouldn't know. You would think we're in
[3:24:06] the middle of July.
[3:24:07] >> High as the river is going to get. And
[3:24:09] it's not high.
[3:24:10] >> No.
[3:24:12] That is a tough tough year. But if the
[3:24:15] person that's over yard of the week
[3:24:17] doesn't ask a question like that, she's
[3:24:19] not doing her duty.
[3:24:23] >> That's a good point.
[3:24:24] >> She deserves
[3:24:25] >> When does that start up?
[3:24:26] >> That'll start up Memorial Day weekend
[3:24:28] through Labor Day.
[3:24:29] >> When are those?
[3:24:32] >> Everybody's still not aware of those
[3:24:33] dates, but we'll get into it.
[3:24:36] >> Surprise.
[3:24:38] >> The same as Christmas and Halloween.
[3:24:39] We're gonna have yards that uh we give
[3:24:41] them
[3:24:42] >> Well, you guys you guys are really good
[3:24:44] to give awards to people that don't just
[3:24:47] overwater grass, but they use their
[3:24:48] landscape in a really good way. So,
[3:24:51] >> conservation yard of the week, the most
[3:24:53] yellow grass.
[3:24:54] >> Yep.
[3:24:57] >> Good stuff.
[3:24:58] >> Okay. Anything else? Councilman Carden,
[3:25:01] >> I got a I got ready for a close session
[3:25:03] if you're ready for it.
[3:25:04] >> Got it. Okay. I move to adjourn to close
[3:25:07] a meeting for discussion of character,
[3:25:10] professional competency or physical or
[3:25:11] mental health of an individual and for
[3:25:14] strategy sessions to discuss the
[3:25:15] purchase, exchange or lease of real
[3:25:17] property including any form of water
[3:25:19] rights or water shares to discuss a
[3:25:21] proposed development agreement or
[3:25:23] project proposal in the explorer room provided code or Utah code
[3:25:29] 52-4-205.
[3:25:31] >> Well done. Second.
[3:25:33] >> Motion made by Councilman Carton, second
[3:25:35] by Councilman Oiler to go into close
[3:25:37] session. All in favor say yes. We're in
[3:25:40] close session. And thank you everybody
[3:25:41] for joining us