[0:11] Good afternoon everyone. We'll go ahead and get the Springdale Airport

[0:15] Commission meeting called to order. Roll call vote, please.

[0:21] A roll call, please. >> Greg Collier

[0:24] » here. >> Joe Gardner

[0:26] » here. >> Cameron McCarron

[0:28] » here. Micah Thomasson, >> Steve Smith,

[0:32] » I'm here. >> Mike Goff

[0:34] » here. >> Jimmer

[0:36] » here. >> All right. Thank you. Has everyone had

[0:40] an opportunity to review the minutes from the January 15th meeting?

[0:46] Any questions, comments?

[0:51] » I make a motion we approve the meetings as written.

[0:54] » I'll second it. >> A motion and a second. All in favor say

[0:58] I. >> I.

[1:00] » All oppose. Same sign. >> All right. Any comments from the

[1:05] audience today? If so, you've got uh three minutes to address the commission.

[1:11] Please state your name and tell us why you're here.

[1:14] » Hi, my name is Don Cop. I've flown out of Springfield airport since 1991.

[1:19] I have a plane base there. I filled out an application for board member uh

[1:24] membership. I didn't get any official response. So, one, I wanted to know if I

[1:28] need to do anything else. And then also, I was reading the requirements. Uh, do

[1:32] you need to be a resident of the city of Springdale to be a member of the board?

[1:37] I was a little bit unclear on that. >> I don't believe so, Ernest. That that's

[1:41] no longer, is it?

[1:52] I think you just had to be a qualified elector of the state.

[1:59] » Okay. Well, that's good. I I didn't know for sure. I saw something in writing

[2:02] that seemed to imply you had to be a Springdale resident, but um

[2:05] » I can verify that. >> Okay. Good.

[2:07] » One way or the other, we'll get whether it's through the mayor's office, but

[2:10] we'll reach out to you. >> Okay, good. Uh, is there anything else I

[2:15] need to do besides submitting the uh application?

[2:18] » No, we don't have a vacancy on the airport commission currently, but uh if

[2:23] you've submitted that then that did you submit that to the mayor's office?

[2:26] » Uh, yeah, I did it online. So, I think it went to the mayor's office. Yes.

[2:30] » Okay. Then I'm sure he has a copy of that and uh when the next availability

[2:36] comes up then he can address that. >> Okay. Thank you.

[2:39] » Thank you for coming in.

[2:47] Okay, moving to number five on the agenda, discussion of hangar 501

[2:52] assignment. So, just to catch you up, uh this was brought to the

[2:59] commission's attention in October. Um

[3:06] we had Mr. Dodson come in. He had uh purchased an aircraft over a year ago

[3:15] and wanted to keep the hanger. And I read to him and explained to him

[3:25] in the lease agreement under number 11, subleting,

[3:30] ley may not sublet the premises in whole or in part of assign or transfer this

[3:36] lease or any interest therein without the prior written consent of the leor.

[3:42] Any such assignment without the leor's consent shall be void and shall at the

[3:47] option of less terminate this lease. And so I ruled uh after he had let us know

[3:52] that he bought it over a year ago that that voided the lease agreement. Uh it

[3:57] came to my attention that that needed to go to a vote and so we're here today to

[4:03] readress this and take it to a vote. >> Can I Mr. Chairman may I add a little

[4:08] more context? >> Sure.

[4:10] » Uh what you stated is correct. Uh

[4:15] the hanger the lease was to Dr. Makavoy prior prior to that was Mr. Storm. It

[4:21] was transferred to Mr. Makavoy who then sold the plane to Mr. Dodson. It's my

[4:26] understanding that the transaction of the sale of the plane is currently in

[4:30] litigation and there is a possibility that the sale

[4:34] of that plane uh that transaction could be voided. Uh

[4:40] Mr. Dodson has indicated to me, I can't speak for him, he's here, but he has

[4:44] indicated to me that he understands that he is responsible

[4:48] uh if it the lawsuit does not turn out in his favor. Um that he will be subject

[4:55] to the vote of this commission, but in the meantime, he does he does understand

[5:00] and acknowledge that he's responsible for any rent due actually started from

[5:04] October 22nd. Um, so I just wanted to bring that to

[5:08] the commission's attention that there is pending

[5:11] litigation involving the plane that's in this hanger. It it's not really apples

[5:16] to apples, but it's similar to when sometimes we have a reasonzoning request

[5:20] that might come to planning commission that there's a lawsuit over the property

[5:24] and we're hesitant to take any action on the property while there's litigation

[5:28] pending. So that's why I bring it to the commission's attention that there is a

[5:33] possibility. I don't I don't know all the intricacies of the case, but but

[5:37] there is a possibility that the sale could be voided and the plane would be

[5:42] returned to Mr. Makavoy. Uh and then it would be up to the

[5:46] commission whether to let him stay in the hanger or if Mr. Dodson prevails in

[5:50] his lawsuit whether you let let it be assigned. But Mr. Dodson has indicated

[5:54] to me that he would be willing to pay the rent that is due for the hanger in

[5:58] the during the pendency of the litigation.

[6:02] I think from conversation he's responsible for that rent

[6:07] regardless. >> That's true. But we don't know how I

[6:10] mean if you take a vote today versus we don't know how long the

[6:14] litigation is going to go. Mr. Dodson has indicated to me that however long

[6:18] the litigation may take whether it's a month or eight months. Court dockets are

[6:22] slow sometimes, sometimes they're fast, that he's willing, whatever that time

[6:25] period is, he understands that he's responsible for that rent in the

[6:28] meantime. >> Okay. that that really doesn't to me

[6:32] that doesn't really address why we're here and why we're meeting on this. The

[6:37] and the reason for this coming back up is because a vote was not taken on this

[6:44] back in October. I ruled on it as the chairman because president had been set

[6:48] on these in the past um and it needed to go to a vote. So that's why we're here

[6:54] to discuss that again. Mr. Mr. Dawson, do you have anything different from what

[6:58] you presented in October today?

[7:07] » Thank you. My name is Ray Dodson. I live at 3900 Shorts Lane, Springdale,

[7:12] Arkansas. Just

[7:15] briefly, this commission has voted

[7:20] the last issue with summit hangers, head hangers. you've you've went ahead and

[7:26] issued people that was not on the waiting list a hanger. So, I just want

[7:31] to let you all be aware of that stipulation.

[7:35] Like I told the city attorney, I'm not asking for any special favors.

[7:40] I'm just simple asking you for consideration,

[7:45] equal protection, none of the law. You gave it to one group, one guy, two of

[7:51] the guys. And why not me? So, it's pretty simple.

[8:01] You've done it in the past. Your track record is set out. You've done it. So,

[8:08] if you choose not to do it, if you want to vote it up or down, you're welcome to

[8:11] do that. But like I said, I got the litigation on the airplane and there's a

[8:16] good chance that, you know,

[8:21] he's breached a contract and the contract says clearly that I get the

[8:26] hanger. That's on him. Had a deposition two days ago.

[8:31] And I think this body

[8:35] needs to look at the repercussions on down the road and

[8:40] and then there could be some because you all have got federal guidelines you got

[8:46] to follow and trust me I've read federal guidelines so I'm blew in the face but

[8:52] I'll take your vote. You guys decide what you want to do. We'll take it up

[8:57] with the city attorney and and uh but before I leave the podium, I want to

[9:03] give you all something. And uh Mr. Koger, I had asked you a couple weeks

[9:08] ago, I sent you an email. You said you never got it.

[9:14] And >> were you addressing me?

[9:17] » Yes. >> Okay. My name is not Mr. Coker, but go

[9:19] ahead. >> What's your name? I'm sorry.

[9:21] » Mr. Cawer. >> Cer. I'm sorry. Apologize.

[9:25] And I told you it was an FOR request and you had mentioned to me that you're not

[9:30] going to answer it. So I'm going officially today give you a FOI request

[9:36] and I think you would be advised to listen to the city attorney what an FOI

[9:41] request is. You may have never got one, but I'm going to give every one of you

[9:45] one and you got three days to comply. So thank you.

[9:50] » Thank you. Thank you for your time. So, uh,

[9:56] just to follow up on that, how we have, uh,

[10:02] handled these in the past, it's a little different than what Mr. Dodson is

[10:05] saying. From the FBO standpoint, there was new lease agreements made through

[10:12] them to the individuals. how we've ruled in the past from someone buying an

[10:19] aircraft from an individual

[10:23] that that does not come to us then that voids that lease and that's how we've

[10:28] represented that all along. So >> if that would have been on your website

[10:35] you might it was not >> any discussion from the commission on

[10:40] this >> uh I got a question when did Dr. Makavoy

[10:44] terminate his rent on that hanger >> October 22nd I believe.

[10:49] » Yes. >> Of 25.

[10:52] » So he turned his turn it in. So we should have had it here for reassignment

[10:59] to the next person on the list. >> Well,

[11:02] » so that's when the airplane was sold or was it a year back?

[11:06] » No. Um the that's when Dr. Makavoy stopped paying the rent. the plane is

[11:12] still in the hanger. So, it would take an eviction

[11:16] proceedings if if uh in order we can't just go in there and it's like a house,

[11:22] you know, if you rent a house, you can't just go on there and take the tenant

[11:25] out. You have to go through a specific procedure to evict someone from the

[11:29] hanger. >> That's my understanding.

[11:31] » Which we had started, but >> in reviewing, and I'll take the blame

[11:35] for that, we didn't actually take a vote on Mr. Dodson's request in October. So,

[11:38] that's why he's back today. So, when did the plane actually sell?

[11:50] » From memory, at the October meeting, Mr. Dodson said he bought it over a year

[11:55] ago. >> I've got the bill of sale. It was sold

[11:58] on April 4th of 2024. >> So, my understanding is that's when we

[12:05] voided the lease agreement with the hanger. Mhm.

[12:08] » And if we' have known at that point, we would have asked him to vacate at that

[12:11] point. >> Well, I think Well, I don't I don't know

[12:15] that I if Mr. Dodson My understanding is Mr. Dodson was the when he bought the

[12:22] plane, it was represented to him that the lease came with the plane. Now,

[12:25] whether that was right or not is a different story. If if

[12:32] the lease agreement that was in effect at the time stated that Mr. Dodson would

[12:36] have had the right to come to this commission before he consummated the

[12:40] sale to ask to have the lease transferred. That that's what should

[12:43] have happened and you know I obviously wasn't privy to

[12:48] all the conversations that took place but again that's that's what's prompted

[12:52] this litigation was that that representation was made

[12:55] and relied upon and here we are you know almost two years later. James, can you

[13:01] tell us where if instead of uh just taking over that lease incorrectly, if

[13:08] he had at that point been put on the hanger list, what number he would be on

[13:12] the hanger list from that April of 24?

[13:17] » I was going to say that would be almost to the end of the list.

[13:22] My my thinking with that is that um we have always when

[13:28] a a lease has been terminated because of subleasasing we have always ended that

[13:32] lease unless they have come before us and asked with the exception of the

[13:37] recent issue that we had with summit aviation and if I would say that we've

[13:41] ever deviated from our policy of the way we handle things um that was the when we

[13:47] have made the change for that and our change was that if that was

[13:51] misrepresented by Summit that they could lease those hangers to uh Dr. Sh Dr.

[13:57] Adams is one that's in my head. Um then we saw that if he had known that wasn't

[14:02] an option, he would have been on the hanger lease or hanger list

[14:06] » and we would have put him on that list. So that's that's what we chose to do in

[14:10] in that specific case. Now, it's a little different of taking over a lease

[14:14] and there's no paperwork exchange with the city versus Summit having an actual

[14:19] paper lease that those folks signed saying that they had a space. So, I

[14:23] don't know if I I could see going both directions

[14:26] that he definitely out of the hanger, but secondly, we could put him on the

[14:30] hanger list where he would have been if instead of getting that hanger

[14:35] incorrectly, he would have asked to be on the list.

[14:40] Keep in mind when we're approaching this that the precedent has been set and if

[14:46] we're going to make a change here then we need to look towards the future on

[14:50] how we're going to address these as well.

[14:55] You mentioned the plane was in litigation um or some sort of dispute is

[15:02] do we know when that might be does that void the sale? That's the question I

[15:06] have. Does it void the sale because it's still in litigation?

[15:10] » The the relief requested by Mr. Dodson in the pending litigation could

[15:16] theoretically involve the recision of the sale. Yes.

[15:22] » But that is not >> I can't speak for Mr. Dodson and his

[15:25] legal strategy, but I do know that that is one of the possible outcomes in the

[15:30] litigation. >> But that's not what's on the table

[15:33] today. If we have to address that, we can address that.

[15:38] » It looks to me like Dr. Makavoy is the one that's in error here because he

[15:42] transferred the lease of the airplane without us giving us authority to he has

[15:49] no authority to transfer the lease with the airplane.

[15:54] » Pursuant to the language of the lease agreement, I agree with you. It it it's

[15:58] worth mentioning that Mr. I'm sorry, Dr. Makavoy was actually transferred the

[16:03] lease from Mr. Storm in 2002. Just thought I'd put that out there.

[16:15] » So, you're saying this lease agreement has been transferred twice? No,

[16:19] » it was transferred once by permission of the airport commission from Mr. Storm to

[16:23] Dr. Makavoy in 2002.

[16:28] Any

[16:33] more discussion?

[16:38] I'd ask for a motion.

[16:42] » I'd make a motion that we consider that at least null and void and we put hanger

[16:46] 5-01 back up on the um list for the first

[16:51] available person. >> I'll second.

[16:56] Have a motion and a second. Roll call vote, please.

[17:03] » Omar, >> yes.

[17:05] » McCarron, >> yes.

[17:07] » Smith. >> Thomasson.

[17:11] » Yes. >> Smith's here.

[17:12] » Oh, Thomas. >> I was going to ask if I could abstain,

[17:15] but I What's the vote? Yes or no?

[17:21] » Okay. Yes. >> Collier.

[17:24] » Yes. Gardner. >> Yes.

[17:27] » G. >> Yes.

[17:29] » Okay. Ruling has been made. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Dodson, for your time

[17:33] coming in. >> Ernest, do you need anything from us?

[17:38] » No, sir. >> Mr. Dodson is aware of his appeal

[17:42] rights. >> And then if I can ask just uh how long

[17:48] um does Mr. Dodson have to go ahead and have the plane removed from the hanger?

[17:52] He has 30 days to appeal this body's decision to Washington County Circuit

[17:57] Court if he chooses to do so. >> Outstanding. Thank you.

[18:01] » And if he does not, >> then we will begin the proceedings to

[18:07] have him removed from the hanger at the due to the vote today

[18:12] » all over again. >> Yes, sir.

[18:14] » Okay. >> All right. Just one question on the 30

[18:16] days. Um I felt like two months ago we made it a change to that rule and

[18:21] extended it to 60 days. Is that right? Do you remember that?

[18:25] » Giving people opportunity to >> This is totally different.

[18:28] » Okay. Different situation.

[18:35] » Okay. Moving on. Number six update from Summit. Brian,

[18:45] » good afternoon. Um, so you can see, um, our, uh, January 26 fuel sales uh, are

[18:53] down from December, 4% and our 100 lowled sales are down 16% from December.

[19:00] Um, I don't really have a have a reason for

[19:05] that. It's just nature of the business. Um, and I also included in uh in our

[19:11] packet this time um a a price list of our of our services that we provide um

[19:18] just for just transparency and everybody can see what's going on and

[19:24] that sort of thing. So other than that, uh do you have any

[19:29] questions for me? >> Do you guys have the um aircraft

[19:33] services posted in numerous places throughout the terminal? Um, yes, we

[19:38] have we have a uh our fuel prices listed and the the services listed on the

[19:42] counter. And then we've also got a copy behind the the counter that that our u

[19:47] our customer service folks and our line guys used when we ring up people. That's

[19:51] if you'll note the numbers that are listed on the left hand in the left mo

[19:55] left most column. Those are all of our uh codes that we input into our our

[19:59] point of sale system just so our so it knows what what we're charging. So

[20:04] that's what those numbers are. So, this is a direct reflection of what we keep

[20:07] behind the the counter.

[20:13] » Any other questions? >> Thank you, Brian. Appreciate you.

[20:17] » Thank you. >> All right. Port from Mr. Kate.

[20:22] » I just have one thing. You probably already know this already, but I made

[20:26] the announcement after the week after the last airport commission meeting that

[20:29] I'm retiring at the end of April. And the city council has already passed a

[20:35] resolution appointing Garrett Harlland, city attorney, effective May 1st. He's

[20:39] already started working uh with me, started last week. And so you will be

[20:44] left in fantastic hands. I think many of you know Garrett already. He worked in a

[20:49] city attorney's office previously. Uh he most recently was serving on the city

[20:53] planning commission. So, and he's running for city attorney,

[20:57] and I think he'll do a great job. >> All right. Thank you. Welcome, Garrett.

[21:03] » More.

[21:06] » All right, Austin. Operation report. >> Okay. Well, I don't have too much to

[21:12] touch on today, but I'll go ahead and start with Mr. Steve Clark from last

[21:16] month's meeting. Steve Clark was able to keep his hanger. So, the few people that

[21:21] are above him did pass on that hanger, and he's now the new lease holder

[21:24] effective February 1. So, we're happy about that. Uh, we also did have, as far

[21:30] as rent goes, we had three past due tenants and they were contacted, so they

[21:34] should be working on getting paid up. And, uh, I guess the last thing I'll

[21:38] talk about, so a couple of months ago, James and I had reached out to our fire

[21:43] department. We figured that with everything going on and big things

[21:46] happening here at the airport that it would be a good idea to, you know,

[21:51] reconnect and restrengthen that relationship with our fire department.

[21:55] So, and as well as update making sure that our emergency plan is current. So,

[22:00] we kicked that off with airport tours. We brought the whole department through.

[22:04] We did six individual tours to do that and uh we had a good time. It was very

[22:09] informative for everybody and it was it was it was a very good deal. Next steps

[22:13] in that will be running tabletop discussions and scenarios and then

[22:18] hopefully after that we'll be running some active training exercises out on

[22:22] the airfield. So, but in saying all that, I'd like to take a minute real

[22:26] quick to thank Joel Gardner and his team at OT. You know, we appreciate Joel

[22:30] supplied a a bus for us to go up and down the taxiways and the runways and go

[22:36] look at the proposed National Guard facility. So, we thank you for that. And

[22:40] uh I'd also like to thank Brian over here. So, Brian played a played a pretty

[22:45] big role in that too, helping out on the tours. And boy, I tell you, we were a

[22:48] pair of a couple of master tour guides by the end of all that. So, but it was

[22:53] fun. But anyways, I just wanted to fill y'all in on that. I'm pretty excited

[22:56] about that. And that's all I got. >> Any questions for Austin?

[23:04] Thank you, Austin and James. Activity report?

[23:08] » Yes, sir. I don't know if anybody's noticed, but we've had the guard u out

[23:12] in the field for the last couple weeks. So, it's been nice seeing those

[23:16] helicopters flying around. So, um, Austin is working on more insurance

[23:21] claim from lightning strike we had a month or so back. So, apparently it's

[23:25] taking out more than just our approach and papies. It's hit some of our sign

[23:29] boxes. So, he's working with Saber in the city clerk's office to get that all

[23:35] back up and running. Um, operations were still up from last year a little bit.

[23:40] Um, like I said, fuel sales is down. Other than that, everything's still

[23:44] going great. >> Awesome. Thank you, James.

[23:46] » Can I add to that? Uh, sure, Mr. Chairman. So, James, uh, some numbers

[23:50] from yesterday. So, we were talking to the tower yesterday and, um, 80 counts

[23:57] per clock hour um, getting over that. They consider that a little bit of um,

[24:02] safety issue with only having one person in the tower. Yesterday, they hit 77

[24:09] multiple times per clock hour yesterday. And due to the military being there,

[24:13] nice weather, all that stuff. So, you know, the traffic is increasing big time

[24:19] up there. So,

[24:23] » anything for James? Thank you. And Greg, the Garver update.

[24:31] » Good afternoon, everyone. Let me just see if I can get this plugged in really

[24:34] quick. Uh, I don't have too too large of an update for you all today. Um, we've

[24:39] got two active projects, the uh, strategic plan and the tower

[24:42] rehabilitation. Here it comes. Um I'll talk about the strategic plan real

[24:47] quick. Um this one we we kicked it off in September with the visiting session.

[24:50] Had another meeting in uh in January. Our second meeting was in January. Um

[24:55] where we compared uh the the we compared Springdale's airport to to other

[25:00] existing airports. Looked at their facilities. Looked at other businesses

[25:03] on the airport. Um we also started to to brainstorm what type of businesses and

[25:08] facilities we'd like to bring to the airport. um and also looked at uh the

[25:12] land use um in and around the airport and how we could potentially utilize

[25:16] that to uh to grow. And so um with our next meeting which is scheduled for

[25:20] March, we're planning on bringing um exhibits on land use alternatives. So

[25:25] this will be really what the strategic plan, this is going to be the meat of

[25:28] the strategic plan. We'll start to see, hey, where can we start looking to build

[25:32] new hangers? Where can we infill and maybe utilize some of the unused space

[25:36] um at the airport now? So, um, March 20th is when that next meeting is. So,

[25:41] um, I should be able to have some exhibits ready, um, for, you know,

[25:44] feedback, um, for that meeting. Any questions about the strategic plan or or

[25:48] what we've accomplished so far? >> Awesome. So, for the tower

[25:53] rehabilitation project, um, you know, it's been ongoing for for quite a while

[25:57] now. Back in December, um, I reported some, uh, quality issues with, um, a lot

[26:02] of the mill work, a lot of the cabinetry um, in in the tower. Um, we we worked

[26:08] with the contractor. I know Micah was there. We also James and Austin, we

[26:11] worked with the contractor to put together a plan to get a lot of that uh

[26:15] quality issue um sorted out. Um, and we were able to to

[26:20] get the contractor to uh clear up all of the cabinet issues by uh January 22nd,

[26:25] which is when we had a final inspection and punch list walk with the contractor.

[26:30] We we identified a handful of items um in that January 22nd meeting. uh most of

[26:34] them related to um some of the the drawers and plexiglass that goes along

[26:39] the bottom of the tower. And I can actually show you some pictures of that

[26:43] real quick. Um these are the these are the final or

[26:47] these are pictures from earlier today of the tower. So there's some plexiglass

[26:50] down here that that was a little um wobbly that that we were able to get

[26:55] sized correctly. Um otherwise the only outstanding punch list item is an

[26:59] emergency radio. Um that's just on back order right now with with the

[27:03] manufacturer. We expect that to be delivered in March. So that clears up

[27:07] the whole phase one of the project, the FAA money. Um we also talked about a

[27:11] second phase of the project with um some of the state grant that we received for

[27:16] uh a generator, emergency generator and also um HVAC. Um in this meeting with uh

[27:22] the the tower and the controllers, we also identified a few other items. We're

[27:25] going to pick up some new chairs for them um as well as make some lighting

[27:28] adjustments and give them a nice dimmer switch so that they can make adjustments

[27:32] um for some of their evening operations. So, um that phase two is under contract.

[27:38] Um right now we're working on on getting them scheduled. Um and we do expect a

[27:42] little bit of a of a lead time on that generator as it's something that's

[27:45] probably going to be six to eight weeks out is what we is what we anticipate.

[27:49] But I'll I'll continue kind of scrolling through some of these pictures um here,

[27:53] but I'm happy to answer any questions that you have about the project.

[27:58] » Is there anything we can do about the windows?

[28:04] » About I I've heard reports of them leaking. Is that what you're referring

[28:07] to? >> Leaking? Um they're sealed with duct

[28:09] tape on several spots. We have uh wasps that make pretty frequent visits in the

[28:15] summertime. and >> air flow. You can just feel air blowing

[28:19] through the duct tape that we've used to seal those.

[28:22] » I can go ahead and answer that one, Greg. So, with our insurance, with the

[28:25] company that we have coming in to put a new roof on the tower, they have agreed

[28:30] to seal all the windows at no extra cost. So, they're going to go ahead and

[28:34] do that while they're up there doing the work.

[28:37] Do you I think we after that then we need to talk to Mike or be there during

[28:42] a good rainstorm and see if we're still having a lot of water intrusion because

[28:46] obviously walking up through there there's a lot of if you go in the rain

[28:49] it's dripping all around you and if uh you look around at some of the wood the

[28:54] plywood or whatever they used I guess just to kind of stop some of the rain

[28:58] that's even rotted through that. So, I know I know James has tried in the past

[29:02] and we've had other people come look and we're just not able to figure out how to

[29:06] seal this thing. Um, maybe window sealant will help. It's just hard when

[29:11] it's a metal building. But, um, and I think we are, haven't we resealed the

[29:16] tower before? I think, and I want to, of course, I don't want to get to speak,

[29:21] but I think the contractor is also going to seal the tower before they repaint it

[29:25] as well. So, I think they're going to go through and seal the whole entire tower.

[29:28] I know for sure they're doing the windows, but I'm I'm kind of leaning on

[29:32] them to do that. I'm trying to get as as much little extra stuff out of them as

[29:36] we can.

[29:42] » I take it that Mike is pleased with everything.

[29:46] Uh yes, from the final inspection, we we really pestered him about, hey, let's

[29:49] let's make sure we get everything addressed here. Um and he gave us those

[29:52] list of items. Uh, we also had an architect there that was the architect

[29:55] for this project and so they did a good job generating the punch list. Um, I I

[30:00] haven't spoken to Mike probably in the last couple weeks. Have you heard

[30:02] anything from him, Austin? >> Okay. I'll I'll make sure to follow up

[30:06] with him, make sure he's happy and and if he has any residual issues, we'll

[30:10] make sure to get them addressed. >> Perfect. Thank you. Anything else for

[30:14] Greg? >> All right. Thank you, Greg.

[30:17] » Thank you. >> Any old business?

[30:22] So, this was brought to our attention uh as far as airport rules, regulations,

[30:28] and the emergency plan. James, do you want to speak to this real quick and

[30:31] then I'll follow up? >> You bet. So, I was digging through some

[30:34] old folders and I found our old rules and rags and I thought, well, we haven't

[30:38] touched it in a few years since 95. So, I thought, well, probably want to look

[30:44] it over. And I know our emergency plan, we've been updating that periodically

[30:47] coming up. So, um, Austin's been updating the contacts and phone numbers

[30:52] in it, but working with the fire department, we wanted to make sure

[30:54] everything was correct. So, I thought it'd be a great time to update update

[30:58] the rules and regs. >> And I would think most of those probably

[31:02] haven't changed, but they probably need to have eyes on them at least.

[31:05] » Correct. So, I think what I would ask is a couple

[31:10] of commission members working together on this to review them and then bring

[31:15] back to the commission if there's any volunteers to do that.

[31:20] » Review them separately, >> not at the same time. Okay. Just making

[31:24] sure >> unless it's recorded, right?

[31:26] » Correct.

[31:32] » They are in your packet, I believe, too. Does everyone have a copy of the rules

[31:35] and rags in your packet today? >> I'm I'm happy to review them. We just

[31:38] need by next meeting. >> I think so. We're we're a week late this

[31:45] month, so we Is that going to give me enough time?

[31:51] Do we need uh legal counsel to review any of this as well or um That's what I

[31:57] was thinking. >> We'll be happy to.

[31:59] » So, how do you want us to do that? review, make notes of what we think

[32:03] concerns are, and then give that to you to help us write.

[32:06] » Sure. If you want to just have it brought back to the next airport

[32:10] commission meeting, which I believe is March 19th,

[32:14] that should be time for us to

[32:18] unless you think we need another another 30 days, James or Austin,

[32:22] » I think that be fine. >> Let's let's do that. Let's shoot for

[32:26] next meeting. Bring it to the commission and then we can discuss it and then let

[32:31] city attorney take it from there. So, we need one more volunteer. Anyone

[32:36] else willing to help with that? >> I'll volunteer.

[32:39] » Thank you, Mike. James, can they uh get with you with any

[32:45] questions they may have as well that might expedite some of that?

[32:48] » Yes. >> All right. Any questions on that?

[32:55] All right. Comments from commissioners.

[33:00] Mr. Kate, I have a question. These folders that were given to us, can we

[33:05] just give those to you? How does that work?

[33:09] » Well, um I don't know what the contents of all I don't know if the contents are

[33:14] the same in every folder. So, it depends. Um if they if some of those

[33:19] pertain to you personally as an airport commissioner, then uh if you need some

[33:25] advice on perhaps answering some of these, I'm happy to

[33:30] provide advice on any indiv any individual

[33:35] uh items in the list of requests. So I I've looked at this, but I don't know if

[33:41] they're all the same. So,

[33:47] » Ray, are all these the same? >> I I'll just note it's it's dated

[33:52] February 3rd, but we received it today. So, just for the record.

[34:02] » Any other comments? >> I'll ask um who officially is the

[34:06] custodian of the records? >> I guess that would be the city. depends

[34:11] on what the record is. Some will be the city clerk, some will

[34:17] be the airport. It depends on what the specific request may be.

[34:26] » I mean, a copy of the waiting list. We're not going to have that. The city's

[34:29] going to have that, right? >> Correct.

[34:37] » Let me ask you another question. Are are we

[34:42] if this request is the same for every person, it's a the FOI is to the city or

[34:48] is it to the each individual person? >> It does appear that it's addressed to

[34:53] each individual airport commissioner. There are some items on here that are

[34:58] going to be probably not something that you have. It will be the city that's

[35:01] actually the custodian, but there may be a couple of item on items on here that

[35:05] may pertain specifically to you in your role as an airport commissioner.

[35:16] And just a reminder to kind of for you 101,

[35:21] uh, a public records request is for public records. You're not required to

[35:27] generate a record that you don't already have. It's not for like, you know, how

[35:32] many times did you have a phone call? That's not on this piece of paper, but

[35:37] for someone to say, how many times did you have a phone call with someone? If

[35:40] there's not a record that shows that, then you don't it's not like, you know,

[35:45] true or false kind of things. That's not what Foy is for. It's for public

[35:49] records. I I haven't looked at this in great

[35:53] detail yet, but obviously we'll respond to according to the law.

[36:01] So, so the question we have three days to answer this back.

[36:07] » Sorry. >> We have three days to answer this. Is

[36:10] that correct? >> It It's not three days. I mean, if you

[36:12] have it in front of you, you technically have to give it over as soon as you can,

[36:17] but if you can take up to three days because sometimes it does take time to

[36:22] get the information together. And there may be instances, I had two this

[36:26] morning, where I made the individual aware that we're still still gathering

[36:29] documents because sometimes it's impossible to get those within three

[36:33] three business days, but we at least respond to let the person know that

[36:37] we're still working on the the request.

[36:44] » So, we're talking about calendar days. >> I'm sorry.

[36:47] » Calendar days. >> Business days.

[36:49] » Business days. >> Yes, sir.

[36:55] Can you open it and look at it? Looks like the first first item is something

[36:59] that James will have. >> Second item is something that um would

[37:04] be available in the airport minutes that are published online.

[37:10] » Third item, uh we all fill out financial disclosures annually. That would be in

[37:14] that that's already published, >> right?

[37:18] Fourth item, it would be answered in that same

[37:21] financial disclosure. Fifth item, same financial disclosure.

[37:32] There's the financial disclosure.

[37:39] You know, I guess again, James, you know, the answer to seven is zero. We

[37:43] don't. That's part of the rule.

[37:49] And again, the city's going to have number eight on file for all of those.

[37:53] So, I guess everything's already available out there for

[37:57] » public view. >> Public view. I don't I don't know that

[38:00] there's anything we any of us have to reply with this. Is that am I misreading

[38:05] it? >> As we go through to identify documents

[38:08] which may be responsive to the request, we may be reaching out to you

[38:12] individually. I don't want to do this in the public forum. Any

[38:21] other comments from commissioners today? >> All right. Thank you so much. We are

[38:25] adjourned. >> Greg,

[38:28] » sorry, I didn't know exactly when to come up. I I wanted clarification on

[38:32] something and I I was as I was sitting back there, I heard that uh you're

[38:38] you're going to have a Are you setting up a committee to look at rules and

[38:42] Okay. All right. And what's the what's the time what what's the expectation of

[38:47] that committee and when will they >> they they're going to individually meet

[38:51] or they're going to individually review them and bring them back to the

[38:54] commission next month for us to review together.

[38:57] » Okay, good. Um I just I I feel the city should be in

[39:02] tune with that. Not necessarily. I mean I and I didn't know at what point we

[39:07] would want to be involved in the process. So,

[39:10] » if whoever wants to come next month when we review them.

[39:13] » Okay. Y'all will be reviewing them in your meeting. Yes. And then Okay. All

[39:17] right. We'll do that. That That sounds good. We just uh you know, with all

[39:21] that's going on at the airport, we we want to all be on the same page and we

[39:24] want to make sure that that uh that we're all we're we're look the city will

[39:29] be looking in the future at at acquiring property. Uh as you know, as we've

[39:33] talked about and I've been open with on the council. Um, so we're looking at

[39:38] significant investments out of the city budget for this and we want to be sure

[39:42] that that we're all on the same page as y'all as y'all make your decisions.

[39:46] Okay. >> Sure.

[39:47] » All right. That's all I needed. Thank you.

[39:48] » All right. Thank you. Thank you everyone.

Airport Commission February 26, 2026

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